[This transcript was generated automatically from audio using AI and hasn't been reviewed by a person -- it can contain mistakes, including plausible-sounding sentences that were never actually said. Treat it as a starting point, not a verbatim record.] [0:42] The call is meeting the order. It is nine o'clock, the fifth day of November. And our invocation this morning will be by Chapman, now we can end this, at seven day Adventist Church. [0:58] Not made it. All right. Anyone else want the privilege of opportunity to lead us in prayer? [1:07] Thank you. [1:09] That is great. [1:11] Heavenly Father, we just thank you, Lord, for another day. [1:15] To be here to discuss County Business Lord and as we do that, I just asked for guidance [1:21] Lord that you would just help us with every decision that is made today that you would just guide our thoughts [1:28] and our minds and that we would do everything [1:31] that is pleasing in your sight, Lord. [1:34] And I just thank you for those that are here [1:35] and that want to participate in this process. [1:39] I ask that you be with those that protect us here [1:41] and around the world that you would just give them safety. [1:44] We thank you, and we ask all this in Jesus' name. [1:47] Thank you. [1:49] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America. [1:54] Thank you. [1:54] Thank you, everybody, for which to say one nation, I'm your God, and in this role, with liberty and justice for all. [2:05] I'm going to text and slide. I pledge allegiance to the Texas One State, I'm your God, one in this role. [2:18] Dr. Bethlehem, would you please call the roll? [2:20] The Commissioner shall. [2:22] Here. [2:22] Commissioner Engels Bay here. [2:24] Commissioner Smith. [2:26] Commissioner John. [2:27] Here. [2:27] Jennifer Salad. [2:28] Here. [2:32] We will start with public comments. [2:36] Those in the audience who have submitted a public participation witness form will now [2:40] have three minutes to speak, a non-agenda related topics. [2:44] Unfortunately, no action may be taken by the court during public comments, [2:47] and we are expected not to respond. [2:50] Any questions will be taken as rhetorical. [2:51] Please, speak your comments and language civil and respectful, or you will forfeit the remainder of your time. [2:58] In the spirit of respect, please silence your cell phones. [3:05] I say that because it still doesn't always happen. [3:09] It may still not. [3:11] That's right. [3:13] Anyway, public comments are first up is Mr. Dan Lyon. [3:24] I'd like to tell Commissioner Schale that I got a message from one of his constituents. [3:30] There's a giant top hole in the country of states near the church of Christ, which has become a safety hazard. [3:37] With people swerving out of their lanes and going away. [3:41] All right, good morning. [3:42] I'd like to speak today about dysfunctional government. [3:45] Water is some characteristic of a dysfunctional government. [3:48] Number one is that they are accepted, they will try to convince you that they have your best interest in art. [3:56] When all the while, they team up with bankers and construction companies to pursue their own interests. [4:02] By the way, even though the citizens of the county have no real say of what happens in government, they are not forgotten. [4:10] They get to pay the bill. [4:11] Second characteristic of a dysfunctional government is when proposals are made, they are voted for unanimously over 95% of the time. [4:21] Even though there may be no open collusion, there is an understanding that if you vote for my proposal all over the year, this time government always runs up the tremendous debt and puts a crushing burden on the government. [4:35] The third characteristic is the government, which is more in tune with the wants and needs of the people they do business with than with their constituents. [4:45] You can recognize this when you see a government constantly revising contracts to the advantage of the contractor and to the detriment of the people. [4:55] The fourth characteristic is the government, which has no shame, and openly appoints [5:00] People with obvious conflicts, adventures, or where they can do great arm to the people they supposedly [5:06] serve. The fifth characteristic is a government which has no real oversight of its spending. It [5:12] approves virtually every request for funding. By the departments, it is supposed to oversee. Judging [5:20] of commissioners, it is mildly that, hey, it's county government, it's completely dysfunctional. And [5:26] make a mockery of what founders of the country intended. [5:31] All right, let's get into this first one. [5:34] We got West Mount Medi-Cash, [5:35] on NEA 80-Bones. [5:38] Advanced auto-parts, break-pand flanks, [5:42] uh, Sheriff's Department. [5:44] And this is unbelievable. [5:48] $564.237. [5:49] It's a good year auto-service center, [5:51] tireders for the sheriff. [5:55] $638.6GT distributors in corporate and a vast carrier for the share of 80 bucks, a [6:02] host for the share of $1.295, grand total 209.95. [6:08] Sandmark is a Chrysler dollars cheap for AM. [6:11] $2,11 Jeep break, share $116.99 in the laboratory for corporate and odor eliminated for [6:19] I can see the trouble being able to share. [6:22] We're going to have $3.44. [6:25] I also hear it's a good scent killer if you want to go on it. [6:29] Walmart, we are at the Christmas boat. [6:32] Those cup boats, miscellaneous, blinds, courthouse. [6:36] We've got five disbursements for $161.34. [6:40] Heart intercept, mowel take for collections office. [6:44] $7,400, this was the machine that was supposed to say it's mine. [6:50] Card Service Center, we got pins and pencils for the share. [6:56] 134 dollars and 48 cents, or pins and pensets. [7:00] They give those things out for free and banks. [7:03] I've just got in. [7:04] That's a hot news flash. [7:06] Anyway, card service center sign, slash thanks for the share. [7:10] or $125, Barton Spring slash Edwards Aquifer Conservation District, Professional Service, [7:19] Study of the Trinity Aquifers, $58,000, and that's probably first and second, but thank [7:28] you very much. [7:29] Thank you, Mr. Lyon. [7:34] Next up, we have Mr. Gary Griffin. [7:47] Good morning. [7:48] seat if you know who I am, my background, I'm going to go that as I only have brief period. [7:54] Most recently it was brought to my attention that Mr. Kennedy's office, from a proper [7:58] unlawful action in constant right hand, at least my piece officer separation for service [8:03] commonly referred to as an F5 through a public information request, action is clearly a violation [8:08] of law, involving the several state statutes administrative codes as well as the directed [8:13] violation of 552 of the open records act. [8:16] That's protected information. [8:18] Y'all might think that that's an inadvertent one time oversight. [8:22] It is not. [8:23] His office had previously released my training [8:26] in a record unredacted with highly [8:30] protected personal information. [8:33] That's violation. [8:35] There's not only times Mr. Kennedy's office [8:38] has not lived up to a six-figure salary. [8:43] Back in March of 17, I filed a felony case again involving Mark Jones, [8:51] Mr. Kennedy, communicated, didn't think we had a case. [8:55] I'm 30 years, 34 years, 10-year-piece officer. [8:59] I know how to read the text of Pinnocko. [9:04] Then, Mark, as you know, the case is buried as quickly as I filed, [9:10] And involving a forgery of a governmental record, police identity, to Mr. James Cove. [9:19] It was an eye opener to me. It was just swept away to the trash. [9:28] I can only come to the conclusion that involved a sitting county commissioner. [9:33] These acts are appalling to say the very least. [9:36] As members of the Courts, your pain miscalculated a very healthy salary. [9:40] And that would be okay if you're getting quality or adequate legal services, but for my [9:47] vantage point, that doesn't seem to be the case. [9:52] Running block for service for a sitting commissioner covering up the illegal and proper [9:57] Follow me and say it. [9:59] Say it very well. [10:00] At least to shame, at the most, some may as in unlawful act committed by member of the court. Anyway, back to my issue. Mark Kennedy, Jordan Pell, Deborah Anderson, repeatedly makes serious legal mistakes that could place tremendous by carries of that liability at the feet of your court. [10:15] resulting in checks being issued with a lot of zeroes on the back of the number of the check. [10:21] Another improper misstep. [10:22] Cost of hands in a lawful deputation appointments involving this court. [10:26] One would think Mr. Kennedy would be well-versed regarding 8601 on the text's government code. [10:31] But obviously not. [10:33] Cost of a hand illegally appointed debt because it was increasing three, [10:36] but not having this court prove the request appointment by name [10:39] and direct conflict with that longstanding state statute. [10:42] I would add, that includes my sixth, unlawfully commissioned as Hayes County Deputy. [10:49] Matter of fact, the only pre-C3 Deputy Legal Point in my knowledge during my tenure [10:54] pre-C3 is Alex Villobos. [10:58] I find in some one-proplication hands that court made a really big deal over Villobos, [11:02] appointment strictly adhering to 8601, which ultimately resulted in approval by the court. [11:08] But in all other cases during my tenure, [11:11] it seemed turned blind eye to the law regarding [11:13] Deputy Constable Corners. [11:14] So we've seen Deputy Bill Lobos, [11:16] is the only Deputy Constable illegal [11:18] Lee Commission of Free Sing 3, [11:20] at least to my knowledge as of June 15, [11:22] which was my last day. [11:24] But as the same goes, [11:25] it's always easier when you're spending [11:26] somebody else's money, [11:28] instead of paying for mistakes [11:29] of the person like Kennedy and his team [11:31] with taxpayer money. [11:32] Each of you might have a different viewpoint, [11:35] if paying for Kennedy's mistakes, [11:36] We're having to come out of your own pockets. [11:39] Debbie, as my commissioner, I expect the most from you. [11:43] Not only are you my commissioner, as I am a constituent of precinct one, you've been a [11:48] piece officer as I have for a very long time, and active to this day as a Deputy Constable [11:53] I would add. [11:54] As I've already mentioned, the phrase right in just to each of you have the obligation to [11:58] the citizens of Ace County to do that, just that. [12:01] But in the case of Mr. Kennedy, this court turns a repetitive blind eye to his inadequate [12:05] below average services. Each of you should look into the nearest mirror and say to the person [12:10] in the reflection, shame on you, because each of you are fighting miserably in regards to [12:15] your oversight of the office of legal counsel. Will you please wrap up your... Yes, sir. In closing, [12:20] the only positive point that he's unfortunate at acts is that the only person appears to be trying [12:25] to live up to the just and right principle as you judge the sir. But clearly, Judge, through my eyes, [12:31] you have a quite a bit of substandard improper behavior to correct on this court. [12:35] and I make that assessment as a past sitting three-term elected county precinct official. I was a constant. [12:42] Thank you. For your time, respect me. I would like to pass out a copy of my fair remarks [12:46] if I could approach the Dias and give a copy to him. [12:49] If you can give him to our bailiff, that'll be perfect. [12:51] Okay. Thank you, sir. [12:53] Thank you very much. [12:56] And next up, we have Mr. Ferrell Ayers. [13:12] Commissioner's kind of just, thank you for allowing me this time. [13:15] I came today to say something that I don't get an opportunity to say very often in this [13:20] commission's court and that is thank you. Thank you for your service. Thank you for [13:26] supporting us. The necessary means to be able to enforce the laws of Hades County. Thank [13:31] you for looking out and having the consideration as a general hold for what needs to be done [13:36] here. We have people that come up here every week. I see a week in and week out and gripe [13:41] about how it should be, what we should do, [13:44] but you had never put the rubber meets the road to do it. [13:47] I want to say thank you for coming up [13:49] and taking this hit every time. [13:51] I would like to address an accusation about Constable Hill [13:54] and not appointing any of his deputies legally. [13:57] As a previous standing three term Constable myself, [14:03] I know that every one of them was appointed by name [14:06] and was in their Z-mail and proof to back every one of them up. [14:10] We've been through this. We know this. We know when someone who was with and is [14:15] disgruntled, how they're going to attack. That's okay. I understand. I want to [14:20] tell a little story real quick and then I'm going to be brief about it. I learned [14:24] one thing. The person that made these accusations that we've recently heard [14:29] from, nobody knows better than I did because nobody put more trust in this [14:33] person than I did because I'm the one that brought him here. I'm the one that looked [14:38] out for him and brought him under my wing when nobody in the state of Texas would touch [14:41] him because of the record that he had. [14:44] But I believe in power of people and I believe in people having a chance to do the right [14:50] thing. [14:51] And so I brought that person in and never had anything but high regard for that person. [14:57] Professionally and as a person. [14:59] And defend... [15:00] I'm on more than one occasion. [15:03] But in the end, it reminded me of something that I'd forgotten all about [15:08] my 50 years as a amateur herpetologist. I used to, and still do, have a very much of an interest [15:16] in reptiles and amphibians. And I've studied for years and years and fascinated by them. And one [15:21] thing that I know that when you are attacked by the very person that you help, it reminds me [15:30] of a rattlesnake. You can toggle a rattlesnake, you can rescue a rattlesnake, you can bring [15:37] them in, you can feed them, but it's still a rattlesnake and they still bite you and still [15:42] try to harm you. And if I have personally experienced this by a former deputy that was [15:49] boy by me and was employed by Constable Ray-Helm. [15:52] This deputy had gotten disgruntled. [15:55] He would fire off emails to other agencies out of line. [15:59] He did all kinds of things out of line. [16:01] And finally, when he got cold, and he was come to a head, [16:04] he attacked me out of the clear blue with a bogus [16:06] right up that was clearly out of range. [16:09] And if that wasn't enough, took a right up there [16:12] by the way, was never approved by Constable Helm. [16:16] And let it be distributed outside. [16:19] Now we hear just heard about using violation of people's personal property. [16:25] I was violated by that. [16:28] No big deal. [16:29] I'm a big boy. [16:29] I can handle it. [16:31] I do say this. [16:34] I believe in the system that Jala worked in. [16:37] I thank you for your service there. [16:39] And I know that the best way to be a public servant [16:42] and a good public servant is by being where the rubber meets the road and I want to come [16:48] and come in every single one of you here because each one of you do that on a daily basis. [16:55] Thank you. [16:55] Thank you, sir. [16:56] Appreciate it. [16:57] And I've been asked in case anyone's here for it. [16:59] I've been asked to pull agenda item number two. [17:05] And while we're here, if you could please open agenda item one through seven, not including two. [17:13] One, approved payments of county invoices. [17:18] Three, approved the payment of the United Health Care Plan. [17:22] Four, approved Commissioners Court Minutes of October 29, 2019. [17:28] Five, approved the payment of the November 15, 2019 pay roll disbursements. [17:35] In an amount not to exceed $2,900,000. [17:38] $1. Effective November 15th, 2019, and close totals for wages with holding deductions and [17:46] benefits on the Hayes County website once finalized. Six, authorized on-site sewage facility [17:53] permit from one office warehouse building located at 6121 Coast Road, Kyle Texas. [18:01] Seven, approved utility permits. [18:05] Second, we have a motion in the second. [18:08] Please call the roll. [18:09] Commissioner Jones? [18:10] Yes. [18:12] Commissioner Smith? [18:14] Yes. [18:15] Eight through 14, please. [18:19] Eight. [18:19] Authorised the sheriff's office to move an employee from Correction, [18:23] Officer Sawat. [18:24] Number 0605-27. [18:28] To emergency communications officer, [18:30] slot number zero five one five dash twelve nine approved specifications for RFQ 2020 dash Q [18:39] zero three on called CD and I professional services and authorized purchasing to solicit [18:46] for proposals and advertisements. Ten approved specifications for RFP 2020 dash P zero four [18:54] traffic counter inspection and maintenance and authorized purchasing to solicit for [19:00] proposals and advertise. In 11 authorized accounting judge to execute an agreement [19:06] with TransUnion for investigative searches for the Sheriff's Office Criminal [19:10] Investigation Division. 12 authorized the Sheriff's Office to implement [19:16] enhancements to the guard one time keeping system totaling 31,089 dollars and 22 cents as improved in the FY 2020 budget and amend the budget accordingly. [19:29] 13 authorized payment to government forms and services for the county clerk's office in the amount of 516 dollars and 76 cents for an FY 19 budgeted expense in which no purchase order was issued as required for county purchases. [19:45] policy. [19:47] For teams, authorized the county judge to execute agreement with event us corporations [19:52] for smart corrections, jail software totaling $15,000 in a minute of budget accordingly. [20:03] Second, any comments? I just had one question on number 12. I noted it says there's 3,000 copies of it, but it didn't say it was four. I was just wondering what it was. I'm sure it's a four. I was just wondering what it was. [20:18] Which one or the purchase over the a lot of a mountain for it's just government forms of services and we bought 3,000 I just wonder what we need a 3,000 [20:41] The certified payment I was just wondering I knew 3,000 probably go through a lot of stuff [20:46] Thank you. [20:49] Thank you. [20:51] Dr. Katana. [20:52] Please call the roll. [20:54] Commissioner and go speak. [20:56] Yes. [20:57] Commissioner. [20:58] Yes. [21:00] Yes. [21:01] 15 through 18 please. [21:02] 15. [21:03] Authorize the county judge to execute a memorandum of understanding. [21:07] And one time waiver in contractual terms between case county. [21:11] The case county sheriff and the case county law enforcement association. [21:14] 16, authorized acceptance of an award from the Bureau of Justice Assistance for the FY 2018 state criminal alien assistance grant program in the amount of 53,956 dollars. [21:30] 17, authorized the Office of Emergency Services to utilize FY 2020 President funds to purchase recognition awards for the community emergency response team volunteers. [21:40] 18 authorized the execution of the F1 2020 statewide automated victim notification services maintenance grant contract in the amount of 30,170 dollars in 26 cents. [21:54] So move. [21:55] We have a motion in a second. [21:56] Any other comments? [21:58] Please call the roll. [21:59] Commissioner shall. [22:01] Commissioner. [22:02] Yes. [22:04] Yes. [22:06] Yes. [22:07] Would you please open 29 and 30? [22:10] It's in my way. [22:11] It's not in. [22:11] Discussion of possible action related to the birth band and [22:15] or that disaster declaration. [22:17] And third of it. [22:18] Discussion related to the case county inmate population. [22:22] To include current population counts and costs. [22:25] And our fire marshal provided a very in-depth report [22:28] and his recommendation until situation changes [22:32] to continue the burn band. [22:35] And our share of provides us a weekly report, a summary of how our inmate population is doing. [22:43] And I'll read it out loud now. [22:46] Page County currently has a maximum jail capacity of 362, [22:50] but jail standards would commence at 10% capacity to be left open, [22:54] which lowers our capacity to 311. [22:57] The jail's daily average was 546 in peak was 558 on October 29th, [23:05] to November 2nd, 2019. [23:07] The estimate cost for outsourcing inmates this week was 85,387 dollars. [23:14] The average number of outsourced males is 200 and females are 17. [23:19] This week's inmates were housed in the following counties. [23:22] Bell, Burnett, Calvewell, Fort Bend, Wetherwood Bit, Travis and Walker. [23:28] Will you please open up number 19? [23:31] 19-Sub 12-C15-Locema-Face-1-Section 2 100-Aids-Loss. [23:38] The discussion of possible access is for second letter of credits number 5-3-C-Roway, [23:43] for street drainage improvements for the Cena-Face-1-Section 2-Loss. [23:48] And the amount of 1 million 320-Nouses, 516 dollars in 41 cents. [23:54] 20, sub-1354, River Oaks of Wimperley, Unit 5, Blot 8A at 9A, Sub-Division, 2 Lons, Discussion [24:04] and Possible Action to Approach the Humanitarian Plan. [24:08] Thank you. [24:08] Thank you. [24:09] Thank you. [24:09] Good morning. [24:10] Good morning. [24:10] Good morning. [24:10] Good morning. [24:11] Good morning. [24:11] Good morning. [24:13] Good morning. [24:14] an eight-lot proposed subdivision located long-range road 12 increase in 3. [24:19] For this subdivision, water and wastewater will be serviced by the city of St. Marcus. [24:23] This subdivision is being reviewed under an interlocal cooperation agreement with the city [24:27] of St. Marcus, and county staff has administratively approved this plant. However, the formal [24:33] acceptance of the fiscal security is required by commissioner's court action. [24:38] Thank you Mr. Cheko. I'll make a motion to accept the letter credit number 5308 for [24:43] street and drainage improvements for Lissima phase 1 section to the amount of 1 million [24:47] 300,000, $516.00 and $0.00. [24:50] Second. [24:52] We have a motion in a second. Any other comments? [24:55] Please call the roll. [24:56] To make sure it's down. [24:57] Yes. [24:58] To make sure it's down. [25:00] We'll speak. Yes. Question our shout. Yes. [25:02] Yes. Number 20, Mr. Fajeckel. Yes, Judge. The River Oaks of Wimberley Unit 5. Lot E8A and 9A is a two-lot proposed subdivision. [25:11] Located off a wayside drive in pre-scene 3. For this subdivision, water will be accomplished by [25:17] individual private well, and wastewater will be accomplished by individual onsite sewage facilities. [25:22] This item has no variances and full staff recommendation. Thank you, Mr. Fajeckel. I'll make a motion to [25:27] the preliminary plan for sub-1-3-5-4 river Oaks of Winnerly Unit 5-Lot 8-8 and 9-8 subdivision of 2-Lots. [25:35] Second. Any other comments? Please call the roll. [25:38] Commissioner, you'll speak? Yes, Commissioner Jones. Yes. [25:43] Yes. Judge the Senate. Yes, please open 21. 21. Discussion on possible action to offer [25:51] of all case county parks on November 28th, 2019, December 25th, 2019, January 1st, 2020 and April 10th, 2021. [26:03] Ms. Kremley, you're making a way to the podium, is that okay? Thank you. [26:08] Good morning, Kremley. I'm asking for the Parks Department to be able to spend time with their families on the major holidays, [26:16] right now they're open seven days a week and they don't get to spend those major holidays. [26:22] So this is Thanksgiving Christmas Day, New Year's Day, and Easter Sunday. If they have [26:27] any religious reasons that those holidays don't work for them, they won't work with them [26:33] to use some alternate days. But I don't believe we have any employees that fall into that category. [26:41] And then they would be open the other days that the county is closed. [26:45] Yes, ma'am. I'm sorry. Can you hear what was April 10th? [26:47] That's Easter. [26:48] Easter. Okay. Any other comments? [26:54] Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. [26:56] I'll make a motion to authorize the closure of all Hayes County Forests on November 28th, [27:01] December 25th, 2019, January 1st, 2020, and April 10th, 2020. [27:04] Is that so? Motion to second. Please, call over. [27:07] Commissioner, are you going to speak? Yes. [27:09] Yes. [27:09] Yes. Yes. Yes. Please open 22. 22. Discussion impossible actually to adopt a resolution to [27:21] cast 1,271 votes for Jennifer O'Kee, candidate for the hate Central and Grace of District [27:29] Board of Directors. We have one person signed up to speak, Mr. Dan Lines. [27:39] Thank you, [27:39] to the CERA. However, here either last week or the week before and objecting to this [27:49] appointing of Mesocane to the board. [27:57] And of course the reason is obviously it's my number [28:02] for characteristic of a dysfunctional government. [28:07] You don't want to appoint people with obvious conflicts [28:11] of interest. [28:14] And like I told you, [28:18] I was either last week or the week [28:20] before, that the appraisal review board, well, when I was up [28:27] there, they had the wife of the Republican chairman. [28:31] She was there on the board, and they have frequently had realtors on that board, which [28:43] is obviously a conflict of interest because the realtor makes their money by a percentage [28:49] of what they sell property for, and therefore it's to their interest to have appraisals [28:57] as high as possible, the same way with the tax assessor collector. How much more obvious [29:05] can you make it that you're really just trying to put the people that pay taxes at a severe [29:14] disadvantage? When they go up there, they're told that they're going to get fair and hearing. [29:19] Those hearings are anything but fair, all guarantee. [29:25] I've seen them call the person that's opposing you by their first names. [29:34] And when they don't have any explanation of why they're praising your property at a certain amount, [29:41] The ARB will accept that and they will also not allow you to put in your evidence. [29:55] They will absolutely just throw your evidence out if they don't. [30:00] If they don't want to hear it. And that's kind of like what I get from me all, but it's works, because [30:05] it's money directly coming out of my pocket. All this to say that we don't need another biased person [30:15] on the board. And you all know that, you all know I'm right, but I fully expect y'all to go ahead and just [30:26] because that's another characteristic of a dysfunctional government. [30:31] Thank you very much. [30:33] Thank you, commissioners. [30:37] This is new to me, of course. [30:39] And the Hay Central Appraisal District sent me a letter to my office. [30:45] And I have the list of nominees and number of votes to cast. [30:51] And so I'm hoping Mr. Kennedy could shed some light on the strategy or the thought process behind putting all the votes. [30:58] behind Miss O'Kane. [31:03] Well, I think the strategy behind putting all the votes behind Miss O'Kane is that you want [31:07] to make clear that that's your choice so you don't want to spread your votes out and [31:11] dilute your choice with both O'Kane and in Mark and the only reason we wouldn't do that [31:17] is if we ever got to the point where we had enough votes where we could put two people on there. [31:21] That's what we did with the highest CISD did that about 10 or 12 years ago, [31:27] but I don't believe we have enough votes to have a second person on there yet. [31:29] we mark. Great. And according to this form, one easy example, for example, is the county seats [31:37] mayor, Jane Houston, and she's on the list, and she's a county resident, but she for the [31:45] city of San Francisco has, where it is, it, 478 votes. So I was hoping for a little clarity [31:55] the better understanding, if we were to, as one option [32:00] presents, divide our votes equally between the people on this list. [32:05] Would that make Mayor Hussain's vote that much stronger [32:08] because she carries a city or no? [32:10] How does that work? [32:11] The votes stay the same, no matter, I mean they have the same voting [32:14] privileges, no matter how many votes they are appointed by. [32:18] Like I said, the only advantage is if we get enough votes [32:21] where we can have the second person, or sometimes we can share [32:24] vote with an entity that didn't have enough. We wanted to shape off some of our votes. [32:29] We can give them to another entity. [32:31] I like this. [32:31] The N-Bed to have that type of students. [32:33] And how many votes are needed right now for a person to be on that or do you have that number? [32:41] Yeah, I think it changes and I think you have to divide it by number of organizations [32:47] by the number of votes everybody has. [32:50] I'm starting to think back how we did it on the eggs. [32:56] No, I just wondered, because I know that there's a certain amount of votes that are needed for a person to be appointed to that board and I didn't know [33:04] The entire numbers needed or is it 15 hundred from that number Mr. Cady? Do you have an answer to that? I do not. I think there's only seven [33:16] Seven members that are up for that so the other entities that all have one vote must nominate together [33:24] If there's, you know, I don't know, 20 different. [33:27] It's a real button list. [33:28] So since there's only seven, they must. [33:30] Some of those entities must choose. [33:32] One candidate that they use their votes for. [33:34] Two nominated. [33:36] They're for the result. [33:37] To me, seems like there's only, there's seven slots. [33:39] And seven members of. [33:40] So I don't even think it would matter. [33:42] How you, this person, this person, this person. [33:43] We try to say, I think it was, it took like a, [33:46] to get you out here. [33:48] Commissioner Smith. [33:49] Well, yeah, I think there's, there's two points. [33:51] to make number one, I think all of us got that letter [33:54] in our office and so I went through the numbers [33:56] whenever we got it, what last week I guess. [33:59] And the two things I would say is, again, [34:02] I made this point to the day, is that if we were to shave [34:07] or the first one I would make it, [34:08] is unlike a lot of counting, [34:10] a lot of counting actually do pick someone [34:12] who is not elected official [34:14] or the county tax assessor collector to see. [34:18] I kind of like the fact that we do here, [34:20] I made this point when Mr. Lines made his comments the other day, because at the end of the day, [34:25] if we do choose a counting while elected official, then it's the purview of the voters, [34:32] they don't like what they're doing on that board. [34:34] They can have a direct say in there and the outcome of that board, where in many other counties, [34:39] they don't have a direct say. [34:40] They have to depend on the actions of the court or the inaction of the court to do that. [34:46] The other thing I would say is, when we look at this, we guarantee that we put all our votes [34:50] it's one we guarantee that that one county lives the one who represents the entire county is on there. [34:57] When we start dividing those votes out. [35:00] It's very quickly, it can kind of very quickly apparent that, well, how do we divide out those if it takes 1,500 points, or 1,500 goes to get on the board. [35:10] And those other 200 and however many foods to say that if I represent, in my precinct, I represent Sandmark, it's driftwood, dripping springs and cotta. [35:21] How am I going to fairly divide between all those, whatever beauty is in my district, or my precinct, [35:28] you know, you learn or meter while I, those, those, those, all those entities all should have [35:34] to say and where those those go by pointing to counting what elected official who truly [35:38] is supposed to be representing all of them, I think we, we save that effort and it addresses [35:43] those goods, all right. So that's the reason I would say to put all of them towards Jeffrey. [35:47] That's the only advantage is if we could get names of, I say, a private person. And this is just [35:52] to the board of directors, this is not to, they don't, the review board is to completely different [35:57] in this board entity. [35:58] Would you like to, since you brought that up, [36:00] just for the audience, describe those two differences [36:03] for a quick second? [36:04] Well, I keep an eye on that lost. [36:06] Well, I don't know how, well, I'll give it. [36:07] I'll give you a little bit. [36:08] It's the, what we're pointing to is the board of directors, [36:11] and they oversee the operation of the CAD, [36:15] and their budget is their biggest directive, I believe. [36:20] And we've been on the new board, as a point about it. [36:22] We've been on the new board, each of those entities [36:25] funds a percentage equal to the same, probably the same way as those votes, to the money [36:29] that we pay for their operations. And so our board member is in charge of making sure [36:33] that the money that the county puts into the board is spent wisely as far as operations [36:38] to go. But they do not have anything to do with your appraisal reviews or deciding on [36:42] appraisals or any decision making on that. [36:44] Is a number of votes you get, the number we get is based on the amount of money that they [36:48] collect for us. It's not by population or you think it's the amount of money that the value [36:52] the property of the property of the property. [36:55] So can we get a motion? [36:58] Sure. [36:59] Let me look at it. [37:01] 22. [37:05] I'd like to move to adopt a resolution [37:07] to cast stage counties, 1271 votes for Jennifer O'Kane, [37:11] as our candidate for the Hase County Central [37:12] of Brazil District Board of Directors. [37:14] Second, we have a motion in the second. [37:16] Is there any further discussion? [37:18] Dr. Guy, that's please call the wrong. [37:22] Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Please open 23. [37:30] Twenty-three. The stretch of the possible action to the work conference for IIT 2020 and BZ reputated [37:38] All in the solid ways to check both of these issues in the central ways to raise the threshold. [37:45] And signed up to speak, we have Mr. Dan Lyon. [37:51] Thank you, Judge Nasser. [37:53] Let me just say that any time anyone has any influence over other people and they have [38:03] a conflict of interest, they should not be allowed to serve, but that's obvious to everybody, [38:10] except for all of it anyway. [38:12] On this agenda item, I believe that it was a week or two weeks ago, I got up and [38:19] objected that, or I read a disbursement, where this company charged the government [38:31] center, $1325, I believe, that's the right amount per month, per month, per the month [38:40] September to dispose of their trash. Now that's well over 15,000 dollars a year. And I don't [38:50] know, it's, you know, I'm not an expert in trash. I put up with a lot of it, but I don't [38:58] know what it costs to dispose of. But that seems excessive. And I don't know if you're [39:07] this stuff up for competitive bids or not, but I think we can easily find a better offer [39:13] than that. So this is the reason for my objection. And really, I shouldn't be, I shouldn't [39:22] have to be doing this, getting up and overseeing or objecting to these things. We should have [39:34] But the department said it oversees this stuff, I don't know, that's just another thing [39:42] I'll add to my list of what a dysfunctional government does. [39:46] But thank you very much. [39:47] Thank you, Mr. Lyon. [39:49] I believe the bid tabulation is in back up in the agenda, so this was a, he bid, the pricing [39:57] for the two respondents. [40:00] This is in fact up for various halls at our transfer stations. I believe one company was successful in some of the sizes and then the other company was the low bid on glass, glass holding. [40:15] If there's any questions, I'll make a motion to award contracts for IFB 2020-B02, all in [40:26] of solid ways to text as deposal systems in central ways that we're recycling. [40:32] Second, I have a motion in a second. [40:35] Are there any comments? [40:38] Thank you. [40:39] And just for clarification, I'm glad it does go through the bid process and thank you Ms. [40:44] Thank you, Ms. Kremlin, for putting it through and I know the others office does a lot of adding to make sure that we are being as useful with our time and energy and resources, so thank you for that. [40:56] Just wanted to make a clarification also. This is just for the transfer station and have anything to do with the government center. [41:06] Correct. [41:07] You have a motion in a second. Will you please call the roll. [41:12] Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, we please open 24. [41:24] 24 discussion on a squad to operating the county judge tax community of local agreement for a base County [41:31] Continuously to us and police department [41:34] I don't even call it as fingerprint identification system. [41:38] If we engage them in the city of Austin. [41:45] So move motion. [41:47] So you can add a second. [41:48] Any comments? [41:50] Please call the roll. [41:51] Commissioner, are you going to speak? [41:53] Yes. [41:53] Commissioner, shout. [41:54] Yes. [41:56] Commissioner, yes. [41:58] Yes. [41:59] Yes. [41:59] I just want to thank the Sheriff's Department for working with the city. [42:02] I'd like to say this. [42:04] And thank you for coming in and being available [42:07] for any comments or clarification. We appreciate your time. Please open number 25. [42:12] There were 25 discussions of possible action to grant a variance for based county development regulations, [42:20] Chapter 705, 725, and 735, and authorized development services staff to issue an element [42:27] authorization for a grant for a program located at 20, 21 states and goes for a grant for a grant. [42:42] And discussing this with staff, there's a very direct and real reason for it, and I'd like to take care of it a little bit. [42:50] Definitely. So we were out on a site and we found out that somebody had undammed their [42:58] damn that they had, that was in a tributary that directly flows to Hamilton Pool all the way to [43:04] the Hamilton Pool. And we've received calls from property owners, Travis County, that people that care [43:11] Hamilton pool and the United States Corps of Engineers. So it is a huge concern because right now [43:19] it's not raining but if it rains, it's going to take all of that silt and debris and it's [43:25] going to take it straight down to Hamilton pool, which I don't think City of Austin would really [43:31] appreciate. I actually did bring Tom Pope and he was going to bring up the development authorization [43:38] that we were going to recommend to the court. [43:41] He is still here. [43:43] Oh, yes. [43:44] Sure. [43:44] Mr. Paul, would you approach the podium? [43:49] Tom Pope, of course, is our flood planning administrator. [43:51] He has been with the county for 35 years. [43:54] He does this stuff. [43:56] And I would just wanted him to come and talk in regards to the development [43:59] authorizations, the way that it's being requested. [44:02] Thank you, Mr. Pope. [44:06] The property owner there just went to work on their own without getting any permission [44:10] from anybody, without getting the permit for most. [44:14] They've made a mass of this creek, and we're not doing none of my favor by issuing the [44:20] permit. [44:20] We're just trying to get the junk loose silk that he's created in the creek bed out of [44:27] the floodplain. [44:28] Okay, so in case it does start running, and we're going to get permission from the U.S. Army [44:36] Corps of Engineers, or make them aware if we issue this, and he's still going to have to get [44:45] engineering done on it before we completely approve it, just want them to temporarily clean [44:55] up the rest. [44:56] Any questions, commissioners? [44:59] So it's true. [45:08] So the development authorization would be to create a larger spillway for all of the drainage to go into, so that it doesn't keep flowing into the creek and then into Hamilton pool. [45:19] Okay, that was going to be my question, so no more damn. He's not required than to build up that damn [45:27] many longer and he's just removing it from. So he's removing it and then he's going to be getting an [45:34] engineered design to fix the damage that he is. Okay, yes. Okay, how big was this damn? Well, there's been a damn there [45:43] for a long time. I mean, you need a little back on the maps and see it was probably built, [45:50] you know, at least 20 years ago, or something like that. And then it washed out. [45:59] And it was pretty small. And then it washed out. What this owner did was come in and make [46:05] and then rebuild the spillway that was there, make it, made it wider, but if we authorize [46:17] them to do this work, we're going to make a required that they make it even wider, so [46:24] to let that kind of deer blood go through without backing up water onto the back of water, [46:31] The immediate neighbor is the bread, the private bread that goes through sub-division. [46:38] People worried that he's going to back up water on the bread and who won't be able to get to their houses. [46:44] But we'll make sure that he doesn't back up water. [46:51] Thank you. [46:52] Commissioner? [46:54] No other comments and with that I'd like to move that we grant a variance from Hayes County Development [46:59] regulations chapter 35, 725 and 735, and authorized development services staff to initiate [47:05] development authorization permit for property located at 2021 Stage Coach Ranch Road. [47:11] Second. [47:12] We have a motion in a second. [47:13] Are there any further comments? [47:15] Dr. Cardinus, please call the roll. [47:17] Tomatoes, Nary Goldspin? [47:18] Yes. [47:19] Tomatoes, Nary Shell. [47:20] Yes. [47:22] Tomatoes. [47:23] Tomatoes. [47:23] Yes. [47:28] Tomatoes. [47:28] Yes. [47:29] 27 and 28, will you please open those? [47:32] 26 consultation with Council and Deliberation regarding the purchase exchange lease or [47:38] now with real property regarding parks and open space within case counties. [47:43] possible action make fall when it was before. [47:47] 27. [47:48] Also take to a council regarding attending and work on a planed litigation involving [47:53] the hate county. [47:55] Hospital actually followed an open court. [47:57] 28. [48:00] Calculate the take to the council and liberate regarding the purchase exchange of value of [48:05] right away. [48:05] Home of Daisy Lane is precinct one in precinct two. [48:10] Hospital actually followed an open court. [48:12] And we're going to go into executive session, [48:23] and we're back from executive session. [48:26] Commissioner Enkelsby? [48:27] Yes. [48:29] Judge, I have motion on item number 26. [48:33] To authorize general counsel to execute all documents related to due diligence by the city of San Marcos on property owned by Hayes County located on San Antonio Street in precinct one. [48:45] Thank you. Motion in the second. Please call the roll. [48:49] Commissioner Shell. Yes. [48:51] Commissioner English B. Yes. Commissioner Smith. Yes. [48:54] Commissioner Jones. Yes. [48:55] Just the Senate. Yes. [48:57] More time. Commissioner. Yes. I also have a motion on number 28 to [49:02] authorize Commissioner for precinct. [49:04] Want to execute a joint bid agreement and a utility relocation agreement between [49:09] Hayes County. Excuse me and go forth special utility district related to the [49:14] location of utilities along day-sealane in precincts one and or two as presented in [49:20] executive session. [49:24] Second, thank you. [49:25] Motion in a second, please call the roll. [49:27] Resonance now. [49:29] Resonance now. [49:29] Resonance now. [49:30] Resonance now. [49:31] Yes. [49:34] Resonance now. [49:37] All in the final motion. [49:39] Yes. [49:39] Yes. [49:44] All in the final motion.