[0:02] Went down the wrong pipe.
[0:05] OK Good evening, everyone, and welcome to City Hall today
[0:12] is Tuesday, August 18.
[0:15] It is Seven Oh, it is 7:04 p.m..
[0:18] I wanted to welcome everyone to a city council meeting.
[0:23] I like to call the meeting to order.
[0:24] And Madam City Clerk, if you could please take a Oh no.
[0:27] Actually, before we do that, Councilmember Andrews,
[0:30] can you please do the pledge allegiance ? please stand.
[0:32] If you're able to Thank you Madam City Clerk.
[0:59] You can please take roll.
[1:00] Yes.
[1:01] Thank you, Mr. Mayor.
[1:02] Good evening, Councilmember Andrews.
[1:04] Present council member, Virginia Junior.
[1:06] Present.
[1:06] Council Member.
[1:07] Goldstein.
[1:07] President.
[1:08] Council Member.
[1:08] Roach.
[1:09] Present Council Member.
[1:10] Sarah.
[1:10] Present Council Members from Menu.
[1:13] Mayor Celine present.
[1:15] Thank you.
[1:16] Next, I'd like to have our city Attorney
[1:19] comment on our close session and announcements.
[1:23] We will be making announcements on June 16th,
[1:26] July 22 and August 18.
[1:28] Closed sessions.
[1:30] Mr. City Attorney.
[1:31] Thank you, Mayor and Council.
[1:32] Welcome back from the recess.
[1:34] It was a busy summer.
[1:35] So in addition to conferring with the real property
[1:39] negotiators this evening at which the council took
[1:41] no reportable action, the council
[1:44] also concluded the lawsuit called
[1:49] gali versus City of Hayward.
[1:52] The council was advised that negotiations are complete.
[1:55] The court has entered a final order approving
[1:58] the city's payment of $600,000.
[2:01] As for settlement, the council also
[2:04] heard that the lawsuit called Smith versus the City of Hayward
[2:09] also concluded over the summer with the city's insurance
[2:12] partners.
[2:13] The excess carrier agreeing to pay $850,000, as in settlement,
[2:20] the city is paying no new money in this case.
[2:24] Finally, as the mayor indicated, the council met July 22nd
[2:29] in closed session to complete the annual evaluation
[2:32] of the city Attorney and the council took no reportable
[2:36] action That concludes the report.
[2:39] Thank you, Mayor.
[2:40] Thank you.
[2:43] Next item on the agenda is we have a special presentation.
[2:49] And I am again, very pleased to be able to do this.
[2:56] We did one a few months ago.
[3:00] And it's always good to start a new session
[3:04] with some wonderful news, and particularly
[3:07] with great acknowledged Mintz.
[3:11] We are joined here today by our Hayward firefighters
[3:15] and the Hayward Fire Department.
[3:17] Ladies and gentlemen, can we please let's give our Hayward
[3:20] firefighters a great big round of applause Today
[3:34] we are going to be want to make sure today
[3:43] we are acknowledging to all of our city's finest firefighters.
[3:50] Today, we are going to be acknowledging battalion Chief
[3:54] Ferguson Battalion chief Ferguson Jim Brown, who was
[4:02] and then firefighter Klimek.
[4:04] I just saw him.
[4:06] There he is right in front of me.
[4:09] What And of course, firefighter Klimek and Battalion Chief
[4:15] Ferguson are here and our upper our upper badass operator,
[4:21] Irizarry, is out.
[4:24] He's out on a fire.
[4:25] He's out on a call right now.
[4:28] And so he is not with us.
[4:29] I believe he is out of the city and he's
[4:32] on a reporting for duty.
[4:35] So we will be acknowledging him when he returns.
[4:41] Nonetheless, I would like to call
[4:43] battalion Chief Ferguson and firefighter klimek up
[4:47] to the front.
[4:48] And also, if I can have Chief Henry join us,
[4:53] I'm going to read some comments.
[4:57] We have some letters of accommodation for them,
[5:01] and then I'll bring them.
[5:03] And I'm sure you'll have some comments, too.
[5:06] But let me proceed as you can.
[5:08] Turn.
[5:08] Actually, why don't you turn to the camera facing outwards
[5:14] and first of all, I'll start with firefighter Klimek
[5:22] on behalf of the city of Hayward and the Hayward City Council,
[5:25] I would like to extend our appreciation and commendation
[5:28] for your actions on January 27th, 2026,
[5:33] during this structure.
[5:34] Fire at 26761 Bahama Avenue.
[5:39] Your actions directly resulted in the rescue of a resident
[5:43] from the home and their safety transfer to medical care.
[5:47] Your quick read recognition and response
[5:51] illustrate the important parts of preparation,
[5:55] clear communication and individual initiative
[5:58] during rapidly evolving incidents.
[6:01] The successful outcome.
[6:03] Also reflected coordination a coordinated team performance
[6:08] across fire attack primary search support
[6:11] functions and EMT and EMS.
[6:14] When seconds mattered, you recognized the life safety
[6:18] priority and acted without hesitation.
[6:24] Firefighting is an inherently dangerous profession.
[6:28] And it takes exceptional individuals
[6:30] to rise to the occasion when life is are at stake
[6:36] Your actions reflect the high standards of the Hayward Fire
[6:40] Department and the deep dedication
[6:42] to service that our fire fighters exemplify.
[6:46] You have made a lasting impact on our community,
[6:50] and we are proud to recognize your service as part
[6:53] of the Hayward Fire Department, as a symbol of our gratitude.
[6:57] And we are honored to present you with this letter of comedy
[7:03] and may st Florian watch over you
[7:07] as you continue to perform your duties with courage,
[7:11] professionalism and integrity.
[7:14] Thank you.
[7:15] Firefighter Klimek for your decisive action
[7:19] and continued commitment to readiness, teamwork and service
[7:24] at your performance reflects the highest traditions
[7:28] of the Hayward Fire Department and has
[7:30] made our community safer.
[7:35] Ladies and gentlemen, let's give firefighter Klimek a big round
[7:39] of applause Our next recognition, of course,
[8:21] is Battalion Chief Ferguson.
[8:25] On behalf of the city of Hayward and the Hayward City Council,
[8:28] I would like to extend our appreciation and commendation
[8:32] for your actions On February seven, 2026,
[8:36] during a residential structure fire at 1181, Buchanan Way.
[8:42] The incident presented significant access and search
[8:46] challenges, including security bars and gates on the doors
[8:51] and windows and heavy water conditions inside the residence.
[8:56] Your rapid assessment and direct line to search operations
[9:02] directly contribute to the successful rescue of a resident.
[9:07] Your situational awareness communication
[9:10] and decisive action helped focus the rescue effort
[9:14] under difficult conditions The successful outcome.
[9:19] Also reflected strong coordination
[9:21] among the crews performing forcible entry,
[9:25] ventilation, fire TAC search and EMS functions.
[9:31] Your leadership and willingness to act
[9:33] when the Act within seconds mattered.
[9:36] Contribue added directly to the rescue of a resident
[9:40] from an immediate, really dangerous environment.
[9:43] Firefighting is an inherent Dane is inherently
[9:47] danger is profession.
[9:49] And it takes exception in all individuals
[9:52] to rise to the occasion when lives are at stake.
[9:56] Your actions reflect the high standards of the Hayward Fire
[9:59] Department and the deep dedication
[10:02] to service that our firefighters exemplify.
[10:05] You have made a lasting impact on our community.
[10:10] And we are proud to recognize your service as part
[10:13] of the Hayward Fire Department, as a symbol of our gratitude
[10:18] and we are honored to present to you this letter of commendation.
[10:23] Furthermore, for May St Florian watch over you.
[10:28] And as you continue to perform your duties,
[10:32] encourage professionalism and integrity Thank you.
[10:36] Battalion Chief Ferguson for your leadership
[10:39] and your committee to safely to the safety of our community
[10:44] Your actions exemplify the profession, readiness
[10:48] and service.
[10:49] We expect from the Hayward Fire Department
[10:52] I am so happy that Battalion Chief
[10:54] Ferguson works for the Hayward Fire Department.
[10:57] Ladies and gentlemen, let's give Chief a big round
[11:00] of applause and one more.
[11:37] So while APA operate as apparatus operator
[11:42] Irizarry is not here this evening, but his family is here.
[11:47] Can we have the Irizarry family stand up, please?
[11:50] With a yes, absolutely right So let me i also
[12:09] have something to read.
[12:10] And if you want to, how about the family?
[12:12] Come up here and in present themselves, we can you know
[12:28] And welcome to City Hall on behalf of the city of Hayward
[12:34] and the Hayward City Council.
[12:36] I would like to extend our appreciation and commendation
[12:40] for your actions on February 7, 2026,
[12:44] during a residential structure fire at 1181.
[12:48] Buchanan Way.
[12:49] The incident presented significant access and search
[12:52] challenges, including security bars and gates on the doors
[12:56] and windows and heavy water conditions inside the residence
[13:00] Your search, your search efforts directly
[13:03] result, it in locating and rescuing a locating an arrest
[13:09] and rescuing a resident from the home.
[13:12] Your ability to maintain focus in a hazardous and physically
[13:15] difficult environment was instrumental to the rescue.
[13:19] Locating the victim amid heavy debris
[13:22] required strong situational awareness Disciplined search
[13:26] practices, and decisive action.
[13:28] Your performance together with the coordinated work of the fire
[13:33] attack, forceable entry, ventilations search and EMS
[13:36] teams contributed to a successful life safety outcome
[13:42] Firefighting is an inherently dangerous profession,
[13:45] and it takes exceptional individuals
[13:47] to rise to the occasion when lives are at stake.
[13:51] Your actions reflect the high standards of the Hayward Fire
[13:54] Department and the deep dedication
[13:56] to service that our firefighters exemplify
[13:59] You have made a lasting impact on our community,
[14:03] and we are proud to recognize your service
[14:06] as part of the fire.
[14:07] The Hayward Fire Department as a symbol of our gratitude,
[14:10] we are honored to present you with this letter
[14:13] of commendation.
[14:14] And may Saint Florian watch over you, especially
[14:20] tonight as you continue to perform
[14:23] your duties with courage professionally
[14:26] Zoom and integrity.
[14:28] Thank you.
[14:29] Apparatus Operator Irizarry for your courage
[14:33] and professional service.
[14:34] Your actions demonstrate the readiness and commitment
[14:38] that make the Hayward Fire Department and our community
[14:42] and commune cities across the state of California stronger.
[14:47] Thank you.
[14:48] And congratulations And then Chief Hammer,
[15:14] you want to make some comments before I go down there
[15:17] and present the letters?
[15:18] Yeah, Real quick.
[15:19] Yeah.
[15:20] I think it's very fitting.
[15:22] This is fire season for us and it's a first
[15:25] for our families over the years have stepped in
[15:28] for us from root.
[15:29] And that support system of extended family
[15:33] you know relatives, kids, wives, husbands stepping in.
[15:37] And when you're gone for weeks at a time is so important.
[15:40] But this is the first time I've ever
[15:41] seen them accept award for us.
[15:42] So pretty, pretty remarkable.
[15:46] Good evening, mayors.
[15:47] Silliness.
[15:48] Members of city council and residents of Hayward.
[15:50] Thank you for giving us the opportunity tonight
[15:52] to recognize these three members of the Hayward Fire Department
[15:54] for actions worthy of special recognition.
[15:57] Firefighter Klimek and Battalion Chief Ferguson apparatus topper
[16:00] Irizarry were nominated for unique citations based
[16:03] on their actions in two separate structure fires earlier
[16:06] this year in both incidents Their training
[16:09] situational awareness and willingness to act
[16:11] had a direct impact on the people we serve Firefighters
[16:15] generally do not seek recognition
[16:17] for doing their jobs, and I think
[16:18] most would tell you they're simply doing
[16:20] what they were trained to do.
[16:22] However, there are moments when individual actions stand out
[16:25] and deserve to be recognized.
[16:27] These moments also demonstrate ways
[16:29] why we invest so much time in training, preparation
[16:33] and developing our people.
[16:34] When conditions are at their worst
[16:36] and decisions need to be made quickly,
[16:38] that preparation matters.
[16:40] These rescues were not accomplished
[16:42] by one person working alone.
[16:44] Fire Task Force Plant research.
[16:46] Ventilation DCMs Communications and command all had to occur.
[16:50] Similar famously and effectively for those incidents
[16:52] to have successful outcomes.
[16:54] These incidents also reflect the work
[16:56] our members have put into strengthening our search
[16:58] capabilities and preparing our firefighters to make
[17:01] good decisions under pressure.
[17:03] That preparation creates the opportunity
[17:05] for individual actions to take a meaningful difference Tonight,
[17:09] we recognize these three individuals will also
[17:11] recognize this, recognizing the crews who worked besides them.
[17:15] Unfortunately, apparatus operator Irizarry
[17:17] was unable to join us tonight because he's currently assigned
[17:21] to the timber fire in Big Sur.
[17:23] His deployment is part of a broader commitment The Hayward
[17:26] firefighters this season with our members
[17:27] responding to incidents in Washington, Oregon
[17:29] and throughout California, well, we wish he could be here tonight
[17:33] We are grateful that members of his family
[17:35] are here to accept the award on his behalf.
[17:37] His absence is a fit to reminder that our members not only serve
[17:41] the Hayward, but communities across the country when they're
[17:43] called firefight or clinic firefighter or battalion chief
[17:47] Ferguson and apparatus here has already
[17:48] demonstrated that situational awareness, decisive teamwork
[17:51] work and commitment to serve that we
[17:53] expect from the members of the Hayward Fire Department.
[17:55] More importantly, their actions made a difference
[17:57] for people experiencing what was like, most likely one
[18:00] of the worst days of their lives.
[18:02] I am proud to recognize their performance and their service
[18:05] to the community.
[18:06] With that, it is my privilege to present firefighter Mitch
[18:09] Klimek.
[18:10] Battalion Chief Darren Ferguson and Operator
[18:12] as apparatus operator John Irizarry
[18:15] with the Hayward Fire department Unit Citation for Paul.
[18:42] So just take a look at this.
[18:45] Skip address.
[18:50] Thank you OK.
[18:53] And why don't we all go down there?
[18:56] Yeah Oh, yeah.
[19:22] Yeah.
[19:24] This is Yeah.
[19:33] OK Yes Yes Nice.
[20:24] Okay And in chief.
[20:28] Henry, if you can, please, please
[20:31] tell the men and women of the Hayward Fire Department
[20:36] to please be safe out there.
[20:38] And particularly the folks that are throughout the state
[20:42] and throughout the western region of the United States
[20:44] to be.
[20:45] Please be safe out there.
[20:47] Thank you.
[20:48] Let's give the fire department another big round
[20:51] of applause Okay.
[21:04] What I'm going to do now is I'm going
[21:06] to move on to the public comments Public comment is
[21:11] reserved for anybody in the audience or online.
[21:15] That would like to make a public comment on something that is not
[21:17] on the agenda The public comment section provides an opportunity
[21:23] to address the city council on items not listed
[21:26] on the agenda or information on staff presentation items.
[21:31] The Council welcomes comments and requests
[21:35] that speakers present the remarks in a respectful manner
[21:38] within established time limits and focus
[21:41] on issues which directly affect the city
[21:43] or are within the juristic actions of the city
[21:46] as the City Council is prohibited by state law
[21:49] from discussing items not listed on the agenda,
[21:53] items will be taken or will be taken under consideration.
[21:56] And may be referred to staff.
[21:59] The city Council welcomes comments, including criticism
[22:01] about the policies, procedures, programs or services of the city
[22:06] or of the acts or emissions of the City Council.
[22:09] Speakers shall not use threatened profane
[22:12] or abusive language, which disrupts disturbs or otherwise
[22:16] impedes the orderly conduct of a city council.
[22:20] The city is committed to maintaining a workplace free
[22:24] of unlawful harassing and is mindful that city staff
[22:28] regularly attend city council meetings.
[22:31] Discriminatory statements or conduct
[22:34] that is hostile intimidating, oppressive or abusive.
[22:39] Our per say disruptive to a meeting and will not be
[22:43] tolerated And in we can and we may refer items
[22:50] to staff at the conclusion of public comment.
[22:54] So with that said, I like to move
[22:58] to our first public commenter is Mala sattar or Sister Safer?
[23:07] Thank you i wrote this down.
[23:22] So I don't forget anything.
[23:24] I have been as a resident of Hayward
[23:27] for 40 years, more than half my life.
[23:30] I married a lifelong Hayward man and raised my two sons here.
[23:34] I was the office manager at Eldridge school for 17 years.
[23:39] I consider Hayward my home, and I care deeply about her.
[23:43] But since March of 2025, I have been
[23:46] focused on what was happening in Washington, D.C.,
[23:49] and how it was negatively affecting the whole country.
[23:53] So I started a protest group and we
[23:55] are here at City Hall by the farmers market every Saturday.
[23:59] For the past 17 months.
[24:01] I am embarrassed to admit I was so focused on national issues
[24:05] that I knew nothing until a month ago
[24:08] about the SVO three, a data center being
[24:12] built in my own city.
[24:14] For the last eight months.
[24:16] I have been following the growing concerns of people
[24:19] in every state where data centers were trying
[24:22] to get built. I have seen these people
[24:24] find ways to pump information into their communities
[24:27] and rally people to stop construction
[24:30] from being approved or finding creative ways to limit water
[24:34] or electric access.
[24:35] Critical for the center's operation What I discovered here
[24:40] is that most residents were like me,
[24:44] not even aware of the data center here being
[24:46] approved in March of 25, and construction currently underway.
[24:51] Like me, thousands of Hayward residents
[24:54] were shocked to learn only recently, the water
[24:57] and electricity demands.
[24:59] This center or would place on our resources
[25:02] daily, as well as the environment
[25:04] affect of 28 diesel powered backup generators are
[25:09] huge proof with no solar collectors
[25:12] or storage batteries planned.
[25:15] We know you have agendas for a September meeting,
[25:18] a ban on future data centers.
[25:20] However we have grave concerns about this one,
[25:24] and we would like you to form a committee that
[25:26] includes community members as soon as possible
[25:29] to study these issues to determine what amendments
[25:33] can be negotiated and added to construction requirements.
[25:37] This cannot wait As construction continues.
[25:40] And we would also like to know the expected date of completion
[25:44] of the SB 03A.
[25:47] I know you can't address the things I'm bringing up today,
[25:50] but I thank you for giving me the opportunity.
[25:52] Tunity to speak about them.
[25:54] And I just want to put one note in here today,
[25:58] Governor Josh Shapiro of Pennsylvania
[26:01] signed the most stringent executive order in the country
[26:07] to limit data centers, meaning they have to comply,
[26:10] they have to generate their own electrical power.
[26:14] And they may not pollute water or air.
[26:18] I'm not sure that we've made sure
[26:21] that this data center is going to comply with things like that.
[26:25] But I certainly think it bears something
[26:27] that we should look into.
[26:28] And I welcome the opportunity to see You more about this issue.
[26:33] Thank you And you are right at three minutes
[26:50] Cheryl, is that you're doing, you're no.
[27:04] Hit the button Okay.
[27:07] Well, you can see from the signs on my shirt
[27:10] that I'm actually here to speak about savings.
[27:12] SkyWest has an open space park in Hayward.
[27:15] Some of you know me from a previous committee meeting.
[27:17] I want to turn and face the audience that you can also see.
[27:21] I'm here to speak for the thousands of people in Hayward
[27:24] who support maintaining SkyWest, the former golf course,
[27:27] as an open space park.
[27:28] You can rotate the microphone.
[27:30] Sure.
[27:31] Yes.
[27:31] Yeah, for the podium itself.
[27:33] OK, good.
[27:34] That works because we need first of all, excuse me.
[27:37] The rest of what I'm saying here has yes.
[27:40] To open space Okay.
[27:43] Thank.
[27:45] Perfect.
[27:45] Thank you.
[27:46] No, to airport development and parks for people who live here.
[27:52] That's what we stand for.
[27:53] And there's an actual campaign to save SkyWest
[27:55] before I say a little bit more about that,
[27:57] I want to say I completely support
[27:59] the comments made by Marla.
[28:01] I've only learned recently about the air development.
[28:04] Hayward And I was shocked, surprised and disappointed
[28:08] and extremely upset.
[28:10] But I believe we actually have for air centers that
[28:13] are in process right now and nobody knew about them.
[28:15] So this is actually related to the topic of SkyWest
[28:18] because it has to do with land use decisions and resource
[28:22] making.
[28:23] How resources are used here in Hayward by the city council.
[28:26] So sort of lost my train of thought here.
[28:31] If you don't know about SkyWest, it's
[28:34] i live right near the Hayward Airport.
[28:37] And as we speak, there is a proposal by the city council
[28:40] and by the airport to expand road
[28:42] into this beautiful piece of open space land that
[28:46] provides habitat for monarch butterflies, endangered turtles.
[28:50] And it's just a beautiful piece of land where people can walk.
[28:53] It's very important for climate change that we keep open space.
[28:58] So there's a proposal that the airport
[29:00] would like to expand onto this land,
[29:03] pave it over, build more hangars and provide more
[29:06] space for private jet owners.
[29:09] And there's a lot more of them now
[29:11] in the were ten years ago because there's
[29:12] a lot of money in the tech sector
[29:14] who are landing and basically using
[29:16] the airport as like their private limousine service.
[29:19] I don't want any more that and neither do thousands
[29:22] of people who live in Hayward.
[29:24] We don't need more diesel fuel.
[29:26] Jet fuel in our air, polluting the air.
[29:29] I could go on and on.
[29:30] So if you're interested in learning more about this,
[29:32] this proposal is live.
[29:34] It's probably going to go before the council in the fall.
[29:37] I don't know for sure.
[29:38] Please come and talk to me.
[29:39] We have a petition.
[29:40] You can sign And I don't know anyone
[29:42] who in Hayward who wants to yay for airport expansion
[29:46] or development.
[29:47] We want open space for our children
[29:49] for the future It's just amazing to me.
[29:54] OK.
[29:55] Thank you.
[29:57] Thank you Gina.
[30:01] Pickled up I'm here because i'm full of love for the land,
[30:24] for the sacred water that we drink each day
[30:27] And for the beauty that I find here in this place
[30:32] we call Heart of the Bay.
[30:35] I'm here to actually ask you to consider this desire posting
[30:45] cease and desist.
[30:46] To stop, pause the construction of this data center
[30:53] I'm not the only one, as I've known this evening,
[30:58] that recently found out about this data center.
[31:02] I think you I think it would be wise for everyone
[31:07] to on your council to be well aware of what you have approved,
[31:13] because I think even in retrospect, fact,
[31:16] there's a lot of information.
[31:18] And that is very dubious.
[31:20] Question noble and possibly illegal
[31:26] that hurts me because I understand
[31:29] that you are public servants.
[31:31] I understand you have dedicated her life to the city.
[31:35] So I respect your work and your time
[31:38] However, deciding on a data center, an eight story data
[31:42] center, when I am told that it's going to be solar powered.
[31:51] How can that possibly be true when we know that solar power
[31:54] all 24 seven, it's going to run 24 seven on solar power
[31:59] and possible.
[32:01] I on diesel fuel tons gallons, tons of gallons,
[32:07] 160 some 1000 gallons of diesel fuel.
[32:12] How can that not create pollution?
[32:16] How can our water are sacred water
[32:19] that we drink from the Hetch hetchy not be affected?
[32:25] We are in a environmental crisis.
[32:29] I still have buckets in my ballet bucket in my bathroom
[32:33] because I we still save water.
[32:36] Okay.
[32:36] So the fact that our water is so precious to us, our lives,
[32:43] that the tradeoff doesn't match up
[32:45] the math does not match up The employees
[32:49] do the amount of exploitation of our resources.
[32:52] It does not match up for our future.
[32:56] So I'm asking you to please consider
[33:00] taking the measures to pause and reflect and understand
[33:06] that our actions will have and by our mental impacts
[33:10] for the future.
[33:13] Thank you Our next speaker is Tom Wong Any city council
[33:36] members Mayor Katie.
[33:38] Yeah.
[33:39] I'm here to speak about the data center
[33:41] and hopefully could change your mind.
[33:43] Maybe it's your emergency meeting
[33:45] to actually stop future data centers or put a moratorium in.
[33:49] This is a very important issue to our community.
[33:53] And I don't think people realize how much power our data centers
[33:57] using the Four data center combined uses about 160 Mega.
[34:03] What that's about 220,000 homes running 24 hours.
[34:10] That's four times what the city of Hayward
[34:13] to the residents of Hayward are using.
[34:15] So imagine what the electricity bill will be.
[34:18] One starts out or two comes online.
[34:20] When start comes online what Hayward Exchange comes online.
[34:24] Not only that the water Hayward exchange users will
[34:28] use a million gallons of water a year stacks
[34:32] will use 3 million gallons.
[34:34] That's not including the 200 Amazon data centers.
[34:37] There's no data on that right now.
[34:39] So I think there's an existential crisis
[34:42] in our community I think that this warrants an emergency
[34:46] session to actually freeze any future data centers
[34:49] and put a stop on what is currently here and there.
[34:53] They want addresses that we actually give this data center
[34:56] type data center, any type of tax credit
[34:59] for building in our city because if you did, please extend it
[35:04] to our small business.
[35:06] They are suffering right now.
[35:07] And they need tax relief versus an additional burden
[35:11] of more taxes.
[35:12] You know, when these data center.
[35:14] Come online, they have very little
[35:16] to contribute, very little to our community.
[35:19] They promise 200 jobs, that over $200,000.
[35:22] But none of them has ever come to fruition,
[35:25] that these promises ever come true.
[35:29] So for that reason, you know, we have
[35:32] to look at these data centers.
[35:34] Again, their application is scrutinized
[35:37] to make sure that they actually performing what they promise.
[35:41] The little bit of money that we do get to help with services
[35:45] are not enough.
[35:46] One of reasons why data centers are in the city
[35:50] is because they're using our resources.
[35:52] If they build a data center further out into the valley,
[35:56] they would have to pull all the resources there,
[35:58] the sewage, the fresh water, the power, the internet, police
[36:02] and fire.
[36:02] It takes longer for them to get there.
[36:05] That's why they're doing it in the cities
[36:07] to actually use our using our resources.
[36:10] So they're not benefiting us.
[36:12] They're actually they're actually taking advantage of us.
[36:16] And we're no, we're getting very little in return.
[36:20] What they do get is that they get to build to their investors,
[36:25] pre-IPO, they get to tell them that, hey, we
[36:28] have so many data centers.
[36:30] We can rent it out.
[36:31] We could actually do all these things.
[36:33] That's how they get their money.
[36:34] So this is all for billionaires and millionaires and tech
[36:37] companies.
[36:37] Please put a stop to it Thank you.
[36:46] Our next speaker is Sheila Is it Cho
[36:50] or guess what I'm going to talk about Good evening, Mayor
[37:01] Salinas and council members.
[37:03] Oh, my name is Sheila, and I'm a Hayward resident I live here.
[37:08] Most of my life.
[37:10] Moved back like over five years ago.
[37:12] I'm here to formally ask mayors Salinas to agenda
[37:15] is a dedicated council meeting regarding
[37:18] the current stock as we Y03A that her center on even Landing
[37:23] Road excuse me in April, the council leadership closed
[37:29] the loophole that allowed massive hyperscale
[37:31] say the centers sorry to bypass elected oversight by being
[37:40] classified in a simple office space
[37:43] You changed the rules so that projects over 50 megawatt.
[37:46] It's cool.
[37:47] Must now face a public council vote.
[37:50] Unfortunately, the 76.6MW stack project slipped through just
[37:55] before those rules took effect.
[37:57] As a result, it's the single largest consumer
[38:00] of power and water in Hayward's history
[38:02] was approved by city staff without a single vote
[38:06] from this elected body a full capacity.
[38:10] This facility will draw enough energy to power 76,000 homes.
[38:15] Thank you It places an immense and valid burden on our grid,
[38:20] sits right next to our shoreline and includes
[38:22] the to utilize scale diesel generators that
[38:26] will impact our air quality.
[38:29] Well, I applaud the upcoming September 15
[38:32] meeting to discuss banning future data centers
[38:35] The immediate danger to our local resources
[38:38] is this one being built right now.
[38:41] Mayor Salinas you acknowledge the process that allowed
[38:44] the 3038 to pass was flawed.
[38:48] Please use your 32 agendas.
[38:50] A formal item on this specific project.
[38:53] The community deserves a public hearing
[38:56] to demand independent environmental monitoring
[38:59] and strict oversight of this actual resource consumption.
[39:03] Thank you for your time Thank you.
[39:12] Next speaker is Joe Ramos Good evening, City Council.
[39:28] Your for Lopez.
[39:33] I come to apologize for last week Anyway,
[39:37] I like to speak on 7 quick points.
[39:41] The first one is if you notice there's a lot of taco trucks
[39:47] and vendors that are on all different streets,
[39:49] especially on the churches.
[39:51] I don't know if their license or not
[39:53] but it seems to me like they're not
[39:56] that needs to be checked out.
[39:58] The other point I think is very important
[40:00] is that all city employees or hayward School District
[40:03] employees.
[40:03] Are they should all live in Hayward.
[40:05] There should be a rule that if you're going to work in Hayward,
[40:08] you live in Hayward.
[40:09] And once you're hired, you got 90 days to come live in Hayward.
[40:13] So if I think if you're going to be working
[40:15] for the city or any administration
[40:18] here or the school district, you need to you need to live in.
[40:20] Hayward That's my opinion.
[40:22] I don't know what the rest of the people think.
[40:24] Number three, no data center.
[40:26] I just heard about it last week and i'm not sure
[40:29] where they were hiding it.
[40:30] Maybe.
[40:31] Maybe I had my head in the clouds, but I'm opposed to it.
[40:34] Number four we need to get quality employers
[40:40] to come in here.
[40:41] Number five is a transfer parent.
[40:46] City hall.
[40:47] You guys got to be transferred.
[40:49] Parent Like this thing was a data center.
[40:52] I never heard about it.
[40:53] And probably numbers of other Hayward community members
[40:56] probably didn't either.
[40:57] I don't know, but I never heard about it the last two points.
[41:01] Number six, fix the Hayward loop.
[41:04] We've been going in circles cause it was a waste of time.
[41:07] It's a waste trying to get the other side of the city fixed.
[41:10] That damn loop.
[41:12] Excuse my French.
[41:13] And the last one?
[41:15] I took this from my friend Tom Wong.
[41:18] And I won't deny it.
[41:21] He is my friend.
[41:23] He said something about putting out zero interest loans
[41:28] for business owners.
[41:28] I think that's a hell of a good idea.
[41:31] So now it's up to you.
[41:32] Do you think it's a good idea or not?
[41:34] Thank you, ladies and gentlemen, thank you for your time.
[41:37] For those who don't know me, my name is Joe Ramos,
[41:40] and I've been living in Hayward for 41 years.
[41:43] When the Marine Corps brought me up here,
[41:45] if it sounds familiar, because I was on the school board,
[41:47] I'm not going anywhere yet.
[41:49] Anyway, God bless you all.
[41:51] And I hope you pay attention.
[41:53] George.
[41:53] Keep it up.
[41:55] That's a positive Okay.
[42:02] Our next speaker is online.
[42:04] It's Caitlin Is it Kayla?
[42:10] Yes, Kelly.
[42:11] Whoops.
[42:12] I don't know why.
[42:13] Mike.
[42:13] Camera is not up or not Not on.
[42:17] I just wanted to reiterate a lot of the comments
[42:20] that people mentioned about the data center.
[42:24] I think we are in danger with this data center.
[42:27] That was approved without, again,
[42:29] any kind of public vote or city council vote
[42:33] I was at the meeting on Tuesday, that town hall that was fully
[42:37] packed with people outside really just trying
[42:40] to listen in and hear more about the data center.
[42:44] And frankly, to protest.
[42:45] It, as many people there have already heard, many of us,
[42:50] Hayward residents were unaware.
[42:52] And I understand at that meeting on Tuesday,
[42:54] we were told that there were different forums of ways
[42:58] that people heard about it.
[42:59] But frankly, one of the first ways that I heard about it
[43:02] was through the Hayward Herald.
[43:04] I think if we still had newspapers like The Daily Review
[43:07] more people would have been hearing about it
[43:09] on a larger scale.
[43:10] I'm very grateful to the Hayward Herald
[43:12] for all of the articles they've written
[43:14] about the data center and even the newest
[43:16] One that dropped today.
[43:18] But what I'm hearing is that many residents are not
[43:21] only scared, but they're very upset that this was approved
[43:25] without their knowledge And I think
[43:27] as another person mentioned, that we were taken advantage
[43:31] of by a city, people picked Hayward
[43:33] because maybe they thought they could get away with this.
[43:36] And frankly, it seems like they are.
[43:39] And so I just want to reiterate the points that were already
[43:43] stated that we do need to have some kind of public hearing.
[43:47] We do need to have some kind of environmental impact report.
[43:50] And I commend the folks who are currently
[43:52] organizing to stop stack SB Y03A And I just
[43:56] want to reiterate the comments that so many of us
[44:00] are deeply upset that this was approved.
[44:04] I've been in Hayward all my life.
[44:06] My father lives about a mile and a half away from
[44:09] where this data center will be built.
[44:11] I think just fathoming the kind of environmental impact
[44:15] is really difficult because we know that these centers are
[44:20] very difficult. And they're not good for our communities.
[44:24] So if city council can work together, whether, again, this
[44:28] is an emergency session as people discussed
[44:31] a public hearing, we as a community
[44:33] want to get together here to discuss this,
[44:35] to see how we can stop it.
[44:37] And more importantly, how we can understand
[44:40] further the environmental impact that this kind of center
[44:43] is going to have.
[44:44] So I thank you for listening to me.
[44:46] And again, I appreciate everybody
[44:48] who's come up ahead of me to say that they
[44:51] are against this center and want to do what they can to stop it.
[44:55] So thank you for listening.
[44:56] Thank you.
[45:03] Okay.
[45:04] I don't have any cards left and there
[45:06] are no more callers online.
[45:09] So before I close public comment,
[45:11] I just wanted to make a quick statement.
[45:13] As all of you know, we cannot comment on items brought to us
[45:18] from from public comment.
[45:21] But I do know it's safe to say that myself, along with Mayor
[45:27] Pro Tem Syrup and Councilmember andrews,
[45:31] we have co-authored a referral to hear discussion
[45:40] and to direct staff in the exploring of banning data
[45:45] centers in the city of Hayward, moving forward.
[45:49] We will hear that on September 15 of this of next month.
[45:55] And so just stay tuned for more information.
[45:58] And if you have not done this already,
[46:00] I would go online, go to the city's home page scroll
[46:05] all the way to the bottom and subscribe to our newsletter.
[46:10] Subscribe to the stack.
[46:12] And when you're subscribing to the newsletter,
[46:15] you can even click on, you know, you can subscribe for agendas
[46:20] to council meetings and planning commission meetings.
[46:22] And so forth, and you'll get that.
[46:25] So stay tuned.
[46:26] And that item is coming in due time.
[46:30] So with that said, I would like to close
[46:33] public comment and the city manager's comments.
[46:38] See manner does not have any comments.
[46:39] This evening.
[46:40] So thank you.
[46:41] So now I'd like to move on to a special presentation
[46:46] if those who don't know, in the front here
[46:52] we are real pleased to have AC transit out in the house.
[46:59] So let's give AC transit a big round of applause
[47:05] and I'm not going to steal his introductions,
[47:09] but I wanted to introduce to you the AC Transit director who
[47:14] is in our district, who represents us,
[47:17] and that's Director Silva.
[47:19] So I'll let you introduce your GM and your staff and sir,
[47:25] take it away.
[47:26] Fantastic.
[47:26] Thank you.
[47:28] Good evening.
[47:28] Mayor and council members.
[47:31] My name is Anthony Silva.
[47:33] I'm on the board of directors for AC Transit.
[47:35] I represent Ward six, which is Hayward.
[47:41] I'm today AC Transit, a special district
[47:46] serving 13 cities in eight incorporated counties
[47:49] across the Alameda and Contra Costa counties.
[47:52] 3 out of four riders are people of color and nearly two thirds
[47:57] are low income, making aC transit an essential lifeline
[48:01] for all the communities we serve 40 million rides every year,
[48:12] more than 140,000 riders on board a typical weekday each
[48:18] weekday, more than 9500 riders use our transbay lines At least
[48:25] 30,000 students will depend on us to get safety to and from
[48:30] class each day.
[48:32] I will now invite you to our general manager, Sal Yeomans,
[48:38] to follow up.
[48:40] Thank you.
[48:41] Good evening, Mayor Salinas and City Council members.
[48:44] I'm Salvatore Llamas, the general manager and CEO.
[48:47] Easy Transit In terms of AC Transit, economic impact,
[48:51] AC Transit Supports more than 5100 jobs across the East Bay.
[48:57] More than half of those jobs are created outside of our agency
[49:02] Together, they generate over 604 million annual wages
[49:07] and they inject nearly 1 billion into the East Bay economy
[49:13] every single year.
[49:15] Every bus we operate creates jobs, supports local businesses
[49:20] and strengthens our communities.
[49:22] Is an excellent.
[49:27] Today, our fleet reflects 58 zero emission buses
[49:32] and they're eliminating any tailpipe emission
[49:34] from our streets.
[49:36] That leadership earned AC transit $40 million
[49:39] in federal investment to launch the transit industry's
[49:43] first ever zero emission bus university or as we call it,
[49:47] Zev, you alongside Chabot College and Union ATU Local 192,
[49:54] Zab blue will help our employees earn associate degrees
[49:58] while preparing to clean by preparing
[50:00] to repair the clean transits of the future and our workforce.
[50:07] Next line riders recognize our value
[50:10] because we're making transit more affordable, faster,
[50:14] and safer.
[50:16] Easy pass provides unlimited resource,
[50:19] deep discounts for participating employers, colleges
[50:24] and communities.
[50:26] Clipper Start gives income eligible adults
[50:30] half off every rider we rec we redesigned the 104 bus
[50:37] lines last summer with our rail line network
[50:39] cutting travel times and making our lines a lot more
[50:44] reliable and accessible.
[50:47] Next line as we mentioned earlier, three out of four AC
[50:53] transit riders are people of color
[50:56] and nearly Two thirds are low income.
[50:59] More than half earn less than $50,000 a year.
[51:03] Well below the federal poverty level And one of the nation's
[51:07] most expensive of regions.
[51:09] Many are already struggling to afford essential essentials
[51:13] like housing and transportation that
[51:16] helps explain why 65% of our riders are transit dependent.
[51:21] So service cuts.
[51:23] We're not be an inconvenience they
[51:26] would upend the lives of those who
[51:28] rely on most, who rely the most on AC transit Excellent.
[51:36] At AC Transit, we're making every taxpayer dollar count.
[51:40] We know that when fares go unpaid,
[51:43] the cost does not disappear.
[51:45] It creates a funding gap this summer,
[51:48] we launched the multilingual fare required
[51:52] for compliance campaign.
[51:55] The message is simple Pay the fare Protect the bustling,
[52:00] also comprehensive of a comprehensive California
[52:04] out of state auditor review found
[52:07] that AC transit synchronizes has serve as well with other East
[52:11] Bay Transit bus agencies.
[52:13] Our collective real challenges are sustainable funding, not
[52:19] mismanagement.
[52:22] What's more, an independent review
[52:24] confirmed average annual savings of 33 millions since 2020.
[52:30] This commitment to making every taxpayer dollars count
[52:34] is why we have a top tier double-A plus credit rating when
[52:41] the costs of running the bus network
[52:43] rises faster than the revenue.
[52:45] Supporting the results is a fiscal cliff.
[52:49] What's behind it?
[52:51] Fertile pandemic relief funds are gone.
[52:54] Regional sales tax revenue has flattened and fare
[52:58] revenue growth has slowed.
[53:00] Fuel costs are up by 2,028%.
[53:03] Bus business parts increased by 14%.
[53:07] The cost of buying new buses has increased by 35%.
[53:12] You can see it's lopsided and it's not sustainable.
[53:19] But we're not standing idle.
[53:20] Instead, we've taken action in the last fiscal year alone,
[53:25] we tighten our belts by $9 million.
[53:29] We're hiring only front positions that directly
[53:32] support delivering service.
[53:34] We scaled back temporary staffing,
[53:37] saving roughly $2 million annually.
[53:40] We brought outside professional services in-house.
[53:44] We're partnering with other agencies
[53:46] to purchase goods and services for less.
[53:50] We're making every taxpayer dollar count.
[53:56] The dollars must count because AC Transit
[53:58] faces a projected $200 million deficit over the next four
[54:02] years.
[54:04] That translate to an annual funding gap.
[54:08] At least $50 million beginning in 2027 with our long term
[54:13] sustainable funding service reductions up
[54:16] to 16% become unavoidable.
[54:20] And so what are the human impact potential layoffs affecting
[54:24] as many as 300 employees.
[54:28] We've been thrown a lifeline But it's not a permanent solution.
[54:34] It takes state bridge loan and it's exactly that.
[54:38] A loan, not a bailout And it must be paid with interest.
[54:44] AC Transit's share Is 55 million enough
[54:47] to close this year's budget and avoid service cuts?
[54:51] Today?
[54:52] But next summer, the loan is gone.
[54:56] Reserves are exhausted and the funding challenge
[54:59] returns That's why hope now rests with a regional transit
[55:05] measure or formally Connect Bay area Act or Senate Bill 63.
[55:10] The measure would ask voters in five Bay Area counties
[55:14] to approve a 14 year, half cent sales
[55:18] tax, $0.01 in San Francisco.
[55:21] If approved, it will generate an estimated $980 million
[55:26] annually for Bay Area buses, trains and ferries.
[55:33] AC Transit would receive approximately $52 million
[55:36] each year.
[55:38] Helping to protect its existing bus service
[55:40] and prevent layoffs with our long term funding.
[55:45] Our bus network remains at risk.
[55:48] To show what that could mean for riders and our communities,
[55:53] I'd like to invite our planning department
[55:55] to share an overview Could.
[56:04] Good evening, Mayor.
[56:06] Council.
[56:06] My name is Owen Christofferson and I'm a transportation planner
[56:09] with AC Transit.
[56:10] So you've heard from board Director Sylvia
[56:11] and general manager Yamas about the local and regional
[56:15] importance of AC Transit as an agency,
[56:17] as well as the very scene of the financial challenges
[56:20] that are facing the agency.
[56:22] So, in these uncertain financial times,
[56:24] how do you plan for the future?
[56:26] Well, our approach is simple, which is plan for the worst
[56:30] and hope for the best.
[56:32] Which is why we've developed a worst case scenario.
[56:35] Contingency service plan.
[56:37] This plan is just that It's a contingency
[56:39] and it would only take effect if no new long term funding were
[56:43] available by Know long term funding were
[56:46] secured by December 2026.
[56:49] If that happens, our priority is protecting
[56:51] as much service as possible.
[56:53] The contingency plan preserves the realigned network
[56:56] we launched last summer.
[56:57] Other priorities are to minimize wholesale eliminations
[57:00] and protect hours of service when possible and maintain
[57:03] frequent bus service where riders depend on it.
[57:06] The most Next slide, please.
[57:09] The proposed contingency service plan
[57:11] is designed to protect the most service for the greatest
[57:14] number of riders It does this by preserving our backbone.
[57:18] Excuse me?
[57:19] Backbone routes or what we like to call the primary route
[57:22] network You know, we focus service reductions
[57:27] where ridership is the lowest, which minimizes impacts
[57:30] on the greatest number of riders.
[57:32] Weekday service of every 15 minutes or better
[57:35] is preserved on key corridors, including telegraph, Broadway,
[57:38] San Pablo and the Mission Boulevard corridor here
[57:41] in Hayward Next slide, please.
[57:43] So let's talk a little bit about what this means for Hayward
[57:47] and these communities here.
[57:49] So when Hayward line 9, which serves the Mission Boulevard
[57:52] corridor, would be maintained at 15 minutes,
[57:55] with the exception of early morning service and late evening
[57:58] service, where it would then go to 30 minute service
[58:01] line 97, which serves the Hesperian Boulevard corridor,
[58:04] would be reduced to 30 minutes service all day
[58:07] and terminate at Union landing shopping center instead of going
[58:10] all the way to Union Union City, Bart Lines 60,
[58:15] which is a really important line for this community,
[58:17] serves many key destinations including
[58:19] Chabot College and Cal State.
[58:21] East Bay would see its current weekday
[58:23] service levels maintained, which includes the recently added
[58:26] trips between Hayward, Bart and Cal State east Bay.
[58:29] However, weekend service would be reduced to every 60 minutes.
[58:33] Other local lines, most of which are currently
[58:35] 40 minutes on weekdays and 60 minutes on weekends,
[58:38] would see reductions to 60 minute service.
[58:41] Seven days a week.
[58:42] All lines described here would see small reductions
[58:46] in hours of operation.
[58:48] And as I close, I just like to stress one more time
[58:51] that this plan would only take effect
[58:53] if no new long term, long term funding is
[58:55] secured by December 2026.
[58:57] Next slide, please.
[59:00] So just like to talk briefly about kind of the time.
[59:03] So the AC transit board of directors
[59:06] has set the public hearing for this plan on October 14.
[59:11] So we invite community members to submit comments and feedback
[59:14] regarding that.
[59:15] And we will hold that public hearing
[59:17] for more public hearing on October 14.
[59:19] As we all know, the general election is scheduled
[59:22] for November 3 2026, and if needed,
[59:25] the AC Transit Board of directors will consider
[59:29] on November 18 and approve on December 9th, 2026,
[59:33] this contingency service plan, which would then direct staff
[59:37] to implement the changes, which would then see on June 13, 2027.
[59:42] So again, if no new funding is secured by the end of the year,
[59:46] we would potentially see these service reductions
[59:48] on June 13, 2027.
[59:50] And with that, I'll turn the mic back to board Director Silva.
[59:52] I you again.
[59:57] Well, AC Transit wants to hear from Hayward resident
[1:00:01] and here's how to engage and scan the QR code up
[1:00:04] on the screen here to learn how AC transits propose contingency
[1:00:09] service plan and fill out the feedback form email planning
[1:00:14] at AC transit.org or visit AC transit.org to learn more.
[1:00:19] Thank you.
[1:00:20] AC Transit is committed to keeping Hayward and East
[1:00:23] Bay moving with Ford's million chips a year
[1:00:26] and connecting riders to jobs, schools, and essential services.
[1:00:31] Thank you for the opportunity to speak with you today.
[1:00:35] Thank you.
[1:00:36] Thank you And you know, I just wanted to acknowledge, you know,
[1:00:40] the general manager, Yamas and, you know, Mr. Silva.
[1:00:44] I have been in other meetings where
[1:00:47] I have heard you present your, you know your stories
[1:00:52] and your histories in transportation
[1:00:55] and in bus manufacturing.
[1:00:58] And I just wanted to just tell everyone standing in front of us
[1:01:02] there is a lot of years both on the bus manufacturing side
[1:01:08] and in the bus, public transportation, but primarily
[1:01:12] bus service side.
[1:01:14] So I just wanted to acknowledge that.
[1:01:17] And there is a tremendous amount of experience and a know how
[1:01:22] in front of us this evening.
[1:01:23] So thank you very much for being here.
[1:01:25] I really appreciate it.
[1:01:27] Thank you for that.
[1:01:28] I, I was going to i have Councilmember Sara first,
[1:01:32] but we just got to make a statement or.
[1:01:34] Oh, okay.
[1:01:35] So Councilmember Syrup.
[1:01:36] Go ahead.
[1:01:36] Great.
[1:01:37] Thank you.
[1:01:37] I'm sure Councilmembers Emanuel has something similar to Add,
[1:01:39] but just wanted to appreciate the presentation.
[1:01:41] I have the pleasure of serving with you
[1:01:43] and working with AC Transit staff
[1:01:44] as one of the city's two AC Transit Interagency liaison
[1:01:48] Committee members, along with Councilmembers Romano
[1:01:51] And it's been a wonderful partnership for the few years,
[1:01:53] have had to work together.
[1:01:54] We've been able to install bus benches
[1:01:56] across the city of Hayward, conduct
[1:01:58] accessibility assessments on all of our bus stops.
[1:02:01] We've been able to make traffic signal upgrades
[1:02:03] and improve pavement to ensure that we're improving bus service
[1:02:06] frequency reliability.
[1:02:08] And I just what I really appreciated
[1:02:10] about the presentation tonight is you demonstrating
[1:02:13] very strong fiscal stewardship.
[1:02:14] And I just wanted to communicate that the deficit that you're in,
[1:02:17] in most developed countries have federally funded public transit.
[1:02:21] And so it's you're in a very difficult position where
[1:02:24] you're trying to recoup fares in order to fund your own system.
[1:02:28] But just for anyone listening and that's
[1:02:30] interested in our public transit system,
[1:02:31] if we had better federal funding for public transit, Bart,
[1:02:34] AC Transit would not be in this position.
[1:02:36] I also just wanted to add for folks that want to understand
[1:02:39] the importance of AC transit in our community,
[1:02:41] we have 14,000 bus riders taking AC transit every single day.
[1:02:45] And when we talk about climate justice
[1:02:47] and environmental justice, which, you know,
[1:02:48] when we think about SkyWest or when we think about the data
[1:02:50] centers they're all interconnected issues
[1:02:52] and we're thinking about climate change.
[1:02:54] The majority of CO2 output in the city of Hayward
[1:02:57] comes from private passenger vehicles.
[1:02:58] And so if we're serious about tackling climate change
[1:03:01] public transportation is one of the critical components
[1:03:03] of that strategy.
[1:03:03] So I really appreciate the work that you're doing.
[1:03:05] And I'm proud to be able to support it on this.
[1:03:08] And from the city of Hayward side
[1:03:09] And I'll turn it over to my colleague,
[1:03:11] Councilmember Samantha.
[1:03:12] Councilmembers to menu.
[1:03:13] Thank you, Mayor, and thank you, my colleague.
[1:03:15] Sharp I agree with those comments.
[1:03:17] I like working with you, Mr. Silver in our meetings.
[1:03:20] So we have a meeting this coming Friday at 10 a.m.
[1:03:23] So if anybody would like to provide some input as
[1:03:26] to how to improve our transportation
[1:03:29] I've been with this committee.
[1:03:30] I think we're I think the only city that has this interagency
[1:03:35] committee, I believe, of all the other cities in Alameda.
[1:03:39] So we're telling people how to do the job.
[1:03:42] We have done a lot.
[1:03:43] And I really appreciate and I really
[1:03:45] like working with you guys your tremendous team.
[1:03:49] Mr. Yarmuth, congratulations on becoming
[1:03:52] the big cheese of 80 Transit.
[1:03:55] And I love the tour.
[1:03:56] If you have an opportunity, a tour
[1:03:58] of the AC Transit and office here
[1:04:02] in Hayward, as a matter of fact.
[1:04:04] And thank you again for a good presentation and keep up
[1:04:07] and I agree with my colleague Sharpe's point.
[1:04:11] Public transportation is something
[1:04:13] that's very important to us, especially with climate change,
[1:04:16] in that way.
[1:04:16] So let's pass.
[1:04:18] SB 63.
[1:04:19] Please vote yes on it.
[1:04:21] Thank you.
[1:04:22] Thank you for your comments.
[1:04:24] Before I call upon Councillor Roach,
[1:04:26] I wanted to ask over this towards the end of the school
[1:04:31] year and during the summertime, the, you know,
[1:04:36] and I also wanted to acknowledge my colleague on the Alameda
[1:04:40] County Transportation Commission Supervisor Marquez over there.
[1:04:43] We're both on the we're both the representatives to on C
[1:04:47] So Hayward is quite represented on AC DC.
[1:04:51] But there's the we were able to get the bus pass program fully
[1:04:58] funded through AC.
[1:05:00] So all Hayward 6, 7, and or I'm sorry 789 12 students can
[1:05:08] have can get a free bus pass that
[1:05:11] would basically unlimited across the entire system also
[1:05:19] Cal State East Bay also has unlimited public transportation
[1:05:25] access on their ID cards and they can get a bus pass.
[1:05:29] And in fact, I just read recently
[1:05:32] San Jose State just opened up You know, it's good to see that.
[1:05:37] Hey, we came in first, but I wanted to, of course,
[1:05:40] you know, we have Cal State, but we also have a Shabo college.
[1:05:44] And I was just curious, you know,
[1:05:47] how can Shabo College get on that, you know, bus pass plan?
[1:05:51] And I don't know if there's if it's through acts
[1:05:54] or if there's arrangements through agencies or way.
[1:05:57] But I just wanted to if that's something that we can look into,
[1:06:02] it's Thank you.
[1:06:04] Mayor, for the question.
[1:06:06] So we do have a staff that work with the colleges
[1:06:09] and universities for our Easy Pass program.
[1:06:11] Just designed for colleges and universities
[1:06:13] and also businesses.
[1:06:14] So we will make sure that we double
[1:06:17] check that they are communicating
[1:06:18] with the board College was excellent to think.
[1:06:22] Thank you.
[1:06:23] And then the C I'll go to Councilmember Roach.
[1:06:28] Thank you.
[1:06:29] You.
[1:06:29] I want to thank you for being here,
[1:06:31] for coming out together and presenting this,
[1:06:33] because I know it's tough.
[1:06:34] Times are it's tough times for a lot of us.
[1:06:35] And this budget deficit is really serious.
[1:06:37] When I say that I'm fully in support of.
[1:06:39] SB Was.
[1:06:40] SB 63 and I, I really hope that you
[1:06:42] can get that passed the goal line in November.
[1:06:45] I know it's sort of I wanted to make the first one
[1:06:47] comment that another realignment you did recently.
[1:06:50] I was sort of worried about it.
[1:06:50] My son and his friends go all over the Bay Area
[1:06:53] on the transit, but they didn't care.
[1:06:55] They just they just sort of assimilated Right.
[1:06:57] And they just figured out the way to go.
[1:06:59] And as I think that even though it
[1:07:00] feels daunting to do some of these things,
[1:07:02] like I think people that are really good users are the best
[1:07:04] they're going to get what they want
[1:07:05] to go because that's their freedom
[1:07:06] and that's how they are able to get around without us driving
[1:07:09] them everywhere.
[1:07:10] So I just want to thank you all for being here.
[1:07:12] Good luck with all of the other budget work that you're doing.
[1:07:15] And I wish you luck for November Thank you.
[1:07:17] Thank you.
[1:07:17] Thank you.
[1:07:18] Councilmember Andrews, thank you for being here.
[1:07:21] I just wanted to thank staff are working on this staff report.
[1:07:25] I know it's a lot of work to present
[1:07:26] to different jurisdictions and we
[1:07:28] don't get a lot of presentations from our special districts.
[1:07:31] So it's always good to see you all come out
[1:07:33] and talk to your partner agencies.
[1:07:36] And just the question I had was with this funding,
[1:07:41] would you also see improvements to just different types
[1:07:43] of infrastructure that the public would actually
[1:07:45] see besides making sure we have ridership available
[1:07:50] or making sure we have buses for where the ridership?
[1:07:55] Yes.
[1:07:56] Thank you.
[1:07:56] Council member.
[1:07:57] So the budget, the funding that we're seeking
[1:08:00] is going to preserve what we have today, the infrastructure
[1:08:04] reinvestments.
[1:08:05] We seek that funding through our federal partners.
[1:08:09] So bus and bus facilities from the Federal Transit
[1:08:11] Administration and also now they have the law and all,
[1:08:15] in law and no emissions programs.
[1:08:17] Those are primarily and there's a formula funds
[1:08:20] that are called 53 or 7 funds that we apply for funding.
[1:08:24] The 5307 is funding that we normally
[1:08:27] receive are the long Island bus and bus facilities.
[1:08:30] Our grants and those are fund funding that we apply for.
[1:08:33] Sometimes we receive the funding.
[1:08:35] So that's uncertainty there.
[1:08:37] We're going to receive the appropriate amount
[1:08:39] that we need to reinvest in the state repair of our facilities
[1:08:42] and our vehicles.
[1:08:44] OK.
[1:08:44] And then has the agency also looked at private partnerships
[1:08:47] to offset some of the costs just in terms of shuttles
[1:08:51] to industrial areas, apartment buildings?
[1:08:54] I've seen that in other jurisdictions.
[1:08:56] So we are looking at every and exploring every opportunity.
[1:09:00] The P3 private public partnership
[1:09:02] is another opportunity that we're looking at.
[1:09:05] How do we invest in some of our facilities?
[1:09:07] I am happy to announce that here in Hayward we
[1:09:09] are going to build.
[1:09:10] And we you see part of the $40 million.
[1:09:12] I received from the federal government in 23 and 24
[1:09:16] is going to be to build a hydrogen fueling station here
[1:09:20] in our Star Hayward facility.
[1:09:22] So we can all bring clean zero emission buses to the city.
[1:09:27] OK.
[1:09:27] Thank you.
[1:09:28] Well, okay then, I guess clap for that.
[1:09:32] I would.
[1:09:32] Thank you for again, for coming out.
[1:09:35] And I want to thank your external affairs teams.
[1:09:37] I see them everywhere.
[1:09:38] And they really do come out and engage with the community.
[1:09:42] So I just wanted to give them kudos as well.
[1:09:45] Thank you.
[1:09:46] Thank you.
[1:09:47] Absolutely.
[1:09:51] See, and no more questions wanted again,
[1:09:54] thank you for coming out and i did endorse the transportation
[1:10:01] measure that's coming out.
[1:10:03] So we are crossing our fingers.
[1:10:05] It will benefit all i don't know how
[1:10:09] many transits systems you know that are that are connected.
[1:10:13] But there's many five that are directly related
[1:10:15] to this particular measure.
[1:10:17] But public transport's mission is absolutely
[1:10:20] important in the Bay Area.
[1:10:22] And I think Mayor Pro Tem Sara is absolutely correct if we
[1:10:27] really want to clean our air and really stop our carbon emissions
[1:10:32] is that we need to start taking more public transportation as it
[1:10:37] gets cleaner and greener.
[1:10:38] So thank you very much.
[1:10:41] And I think that's it Thank you.
[1:10:43] By the way, I just wanted to let you know, you know,
[1:10:45] I've served 40 years at Gillick.
[1:10:48] I know.
[1:10:49] And I just retired.
[1:10:50] So.
[1:10:50] I know.
[1:10:52] Yes Well, congratulations.
[1:10:54] So I thank you.
[1:10:55] Thank you.
[1:10:56] And you know, in on a on a sort of a side transportation
[1:11:01] note you know, students, and I'm going
[1:11:06] to say it only because supervisor Marquez is here.
[1:11:10] We made it right before the beginning of school.
[1:11:13] But for all those students that tennis and high school who
[1:11:17] walk along Whitman or walk along hunt wood and cross the train
[1:11:22] tracks to get to tennis in high school yesterday,
[1:11:26] they were able to cross through a new railroad crossing section
[1:11:32] from Underwood or Hopwood to the school because of moneys
[1:11:38] that we were able to pull together with from AC to me.
[1:11:43] And so that is a long time in the making.
[1:11:46] And that is a a clear and a very good partnership
[1:11:50] that we have had with not only Ictsi,
[1:11:53] but between the city and the school district.
[1:11:56] And so I just wanted to throw a shout out
[1:11:59] to the supervisor on that one.
[1:12:00] So we were able to get that done with Ictsi.
[1:12:02] So okay, thank you very much.
[1:12:05] And I will close that item and I will proceed.
[1:12:13] Need to our concern of calendar.
[1:12:17] I do have a couple of items I wanted to get pulled.
[1:12:21] I wanted to pull item ten and item 12 of I
[1:12:24] do have cards on those two items and so what we'll do
[1:12:30] is why don't we proceed with moving and passing the remaining
[1:12:38] items one through nine.
[1:12:40] I and one through 911 and I'll move those items moved
[1:12:46] by Mayor Pro Tem Sara, a second seconded by Council member Roach
[1:12:51] and well, actually, before we do that, Madam City Clerk,
[1:12:55] I would be remiss if I did not open it up for public comment.
[1:12:58] First, is there any public comment for those items?
[1:13:02] Not 12 or 10.
[1:13:06] I don't see any public comment in the room.
[1:13:08] I don't have any cards and I don't see hands raised.
[1:13:15] So I will.
[1:13:16] Silliness, Yes.
[1:13:18] Or something I apologize.
[1:13:19] But we have TJ.
[1:13:20] Yes, I do.
[1:13:21] See I do see that.
[1:13:23] Yeah.
[1:13:23] So TJ for Hayward concern citizens
[1:13:33] i actually it's for item 12.
[1:13:35] OK.
[1:13:35] OK.
[1:13:36] So i'll pause on you for a moment.
[1:13:38] I will close public comment moved by Mayor pro tem Sara
[1:13:42] second by Councilmember Roach, Madam City
[1:13:45] Clerk if we can please take roll and I think the unit.
[1:14:12] It passes unanimously.
[1:14:13] Thank you Item number ten.
[1:14:15] And is adopt a resolution and adopt a resolution.
[1:14:21] Adopt a resolution authorizing the city manager
[1:14:23] to execute a memorandum of understanding
[1:14:26] between the city of Hayward and the county of Alameda.
[1:14:29] For the administration, Russell City
[1:14:31] Redress Fund and phase one payments and related actions.
[1:14:35] And so I believe I and before I acknowledge them,
[1:14:43] I just wanted to just really publicly think council members.
[1:14:49] Andrews and Roach and of course, our legal team
[1:14:55] for really keeping this is issue at the forefront and really
[1:15:01] making sure that the process is followed.
[1:15:06] Families are heard And I'm really pleased to see the point
[1:15:13] that we're at today.
[1:15:14] So with that said, Councilmember Andrews I thank you, Mayor.
[1:15:19] I want to thank the Alameda County Board of Supervisors
[1:15:23] and especially the leadership of super
[1:15:25] as we we would not be here today to get to this moment.
[1:15:29] I also want to thank her staff and in particular, I just
[1:15:33] want to thank rodney Loesch as well as Megan Turner and Alex,
[1:15:40] her chief of staff and all the other folks that have really
[1:15:43] stepped up in assisting us in figuring out this MOU, as well
[1:15:48] as the auditor's office and the legal team I want to also thank
[1:15:53] the Russell City steering Committee.
[1:15:56] Russell City was always a community that
[1:15:59] was discussed here and there.
[1:16:00] There was talked about here and there.
[1:16:02] We would talk about it when we were approved.
[1:16:05] Things on planning commission about how this area was formally
[1:16:08] Russell City.
[1:16:09] And we were you know, approving things in this area.
[1:16:13] And we were hearing from the different families
[1:16:16] that used to be from this area.
[1:16:17] And they maintain their connection and community
[1:16:20] through annual picnics and I would say in 2020, 2021,
[1:16:28] the conversation start of how we can address what happened here
[1:16:33] and how can we continue to respond to restorative justice.
[1:16:40] And so we feel that this MOU has created a step
[1:16:46] to respond as a city, as a partnership with the county
[1:16:52] and partnership also with Alameda County of Education
[1:16:56] to respond to what happened.
[1:16:58] This is not something that will make total amends,
[1:17:02] but this is a step, this is a knowledge of what happened here.
[1:17:06] And I want to thank Michael League Councilmember Julie
[1:17:09] Roach, who has been with us every step of the way in terms
[1:17:13] of providing guidance and and again,
[1:17:15] want to thank the supervisor, but also, I
[1:17:19] want to thank the city staff when
[1:17:21] we made that apology through the recommendations of the Community
[1:17:26] Services Commission and it was their job to figure this out.
[1:17:31] And I really appreciate all the work and time and commitment
[1:17:34] that they have given on a almost daily basis
[1:17:38] on trying to figure out how do we give back to this community.
[1:17:41] So thank you.
[1:17:42] And I look forward to hearing unanimous vote on this item.
[1:17:47] Thank you.
[1:17:48] Council member Roach thank you.
[1:17:51] I wanted to take a moment to recognize what
[1:17:53] a historic moment.
[1:17:54] This is for Hayward and for the rest of the city community.
[1:17:57] With this vote, we are taking a step
[1:17:59] that goes beyond acknowledging a painful chapter, chapter
[1:18:02] in our city's history.
[1:18:04] For decades, the displacement of approximately 1,400 Russell City
[1:18:07] residents caused profound economic,
[1:18:09] personal and generational harm harm that was never meaningfully
[1:18:12] addressed.
[1:18:13] And I'm proud that we're moving forward from apology to action,
[1:18:16] something tangible by establishing
[1:18:18] this redress fund to make payments to those
[1:18:20] who were directly harmed.
[1:18:21] I want to thank the Russell City Committee
[1:18:23] members and the Russell City Reparative justice
[1:18:25] Project participants who kept the history alive,
[1:18:28] shared their stories and participated in this process
[1:18:31] and continued to advocate for justice.
[1:18:33] I specifically want to recognize supervised release for Marquez,
[1:18:36] who, together with her staff and District two,
[1:18:39] have not let this work fall when it
[1:18:40] looked controversial or difficult to get approved.
[1:18:43] Supervisor marquez not let out.
[1:18:45] She kept pushing forward and made this happen.
[1:18:47] And here we are today.
[1:18:48] I also want to thank her board of supervisors, colleagues,
[1:18:51] supervisor smiley Hubbard for to Nabbous
[1:18:53] and to them for their contributions
[1:18:55] and wholehearted support of the fund.
[1:18:57] I want to thank Angels and the Delta family
[1:18:59] for keeping the memory of the Russell City community alive
[1:19:01] and for I just work on the movie The Apology, which
[1:19:04] told the story of Russell City.
[1:19:05] And what happened during redevelopment.
[1:19:07] If you haven't seen it, keep your eye
[1:19:09] out for a local screening of that.
[1:19:11] It's really informative I want to thank
[1:19:13] my colleague, of course, my fellow member of the Rejoice
[1:19:16] Fund, working Group.
[1:19:17] Councilmember Andrews has really guided us along the way
[1:19:19] and how to show up for this kind of work.
[1:19:21] And it's really appreciate her work and compassion in this.
[1:19:24] And I also want to thank my colleagues
[1:19:25] up here on the Council for your compassion
[1:19:27] in moving this work forward, too.
[1:19:29] It's really been a team effort.
[1:19:30] And I want to thank city attorney Michael
[1:19:32] Lawson, who envisioned a way forward for this to happen.
[1:19:35] And got us on our way.
[1:19:37] And I'm hoping he's going to make some comments afterwards
[1:19:39] as well.
[1:19:41] Thank you also to the Alameda County office
[1:19:42] of Education for finding this to be a meaningful cause
[1:19:45] to support.
[1:19:47] I also want to thank I look back a little bit
[1:19:48] and think our Zoom Mahdavi, who was
[1:19:50] the former chair of the Community Services
[1:19:51] Commission, that sort of kicked off this work,
[1:19:53] and Sara Vindman, who was the city Council
[1:19:55] member at the time, that was the liaison to the Community
[1:19:58] Services Commission during the apology.
[1:20:01] And finally, I want to acknowledge that this does not
[1:20:04] undo what happened.
[1:20:05] Of course it does not fairly compensate what was lost,
[1:20:08] but it is an important step toward making
[1:20:09] amends and honoring the people of the community of Russell
[1:20:12] City.
[1:20:13] I'm grateful to the Russell City community
[1:20:15] for their persistence its courage,
[1:20:18] and the willingness to participate in the process.
[1:20:20] Even when I got hard.
[1:20:22] And painful.
[1:20:23] And I hope today's action demonstrates
[1:20:25] that their history matters, that the losses mattered
[1:20:27] and their voices matter.
[1:20:29] And yeah, I thank everyone for participating
[1:20:31] in the project and them, and I hope our city attorney will also
[1:20:34] say a few comments.
[1:20:36] Thank you.
[1:20:37] Before I defer to our city attorney.
[1:20:41] Oh, okay Mr. City Attorney, we just like to make a comment.
[1:20:46] Well, thank you, Mayor and council.
[1:20:48] I just wanted to acknowledge our staff members
[1:20:52] who have been working on this project
[1:20:55] and who really started the work and continue that up
[1:21:00] over the last couple of years.
[1:21:01] Former equity officers Jenny Jackson and Josephine and Koya
[1:21:09] and former city men, assistant city manager Regina Youngblood.
[1:21:16] Absolutely.
[1:21:16] Thank you so before I. Well, what I'll do now
[1:21:23] is all before we go through the voting procedure,
[1:21:26] I'll go to a public comment and see if there
[1:21:30] are any public comment.
[1:21:32] And I see And I see T.J. From Hayward Concerned citizens
[1:21:49] item 12.
[1:21:50] Oh, item 12.
[1:21:52] I'm sorry.
[1:21:53] OK.
[1:21:54] Thank you All right.
[1:21:59] Before I hold on a second OK.
[1:22:08] Mayor Pro Tem.
[1:22:09] Sorry.
[1:22:10] Thank you.
[1:22:11] I just also want to acknowledge the work of Councilmember
[1:22:13] Andrews and Councilmember Roach for helping lead this with city
[1:22:16] staff and the supervisor.
[1:22:17] And I think a lot of acknowledgment
[1:22:19] has been given to the Russell City Steering Committee
[1:22:21] and of course, the families that were engaged in that process,
[1:22:24] both in the steering committee and outside of it.
[1:22:26] There are a number of consultants we've worked with,
[1:22:29] as well as the Community Services Commission
[1:22:31] and I think I just wanted to put into perspective,
[1:22:33] and this was a long arc, not just the historical displacement
[1:22:36] of the Russell City families, but from the apology in the wake
[1:22:39] of the George Floyd uprisings.
[1:22:41] For organizers to come together for the Community Services
[1:22:44] Commission to come together, for the council to have the courage
[1:22:46] to embark on an apology and try to think, how do we
[1:22:48] make these historical wrongs right to the degree
[1:22:50] that we can raise really interesting questions
[1:22:53] around legality, around history, around, how do
[1:22:56] you make something right when I was so far in the past.
[1:22:59] But it's still impacting folks today and you know,
[1:23:01] some folks have struggled with this project.
[1:23:03] Some people think it's not Hayward's fault.
[1:23:05] The city did nothing wrong.
[1:23:07] But when we look at the industrial park that
[1:23:09] was built where Russell City is today,
[1:23:10] every day we're extracting tax revenue that
[1:23:12] pays for the services, that keeps the city's lights on,
[1:23:15] that keeps our roads paved, that pays for our public safety
[1:23:17] services.
[1:23:18] And so I just want to put into perspective
[1:23:20] how important this vote is, because it's our effort
[1:23:22] to at least try to attempt to set things straight and make
[1:23:26] amends for a decision that harmed a lot of families
[1:23:28] to benefit the greater public of hayward.
[1:23:30] We benefit from that harm today.
[1:23:32] And so I'm just I'm glad that this council has stayed focused.
[1:23:34] I mean, it's not easy to move a project
[1:23:36] through five years of time, and we've been able to do that.
[1:23:39] And get to this point And I think
[1:23:41] the design of this redress fund, what I'm most excited about
[1:23:44] is it will help serve as a new model for other cities
[1:23:47] to explore as well.
[1:23:48] I mean, when council wrote to this is a historic decision,
[1:23:50] I believe it is because it will demonstrate to other cities
[1:23:53] how they can also address racial inequities in historical harms
[1:23:56] as well.
[1:23:56] So I'm very pleased to be supporting this item tonight,
[1:23:59] and I just really commend you all for your work on this.
[1:24:03] Thank you.
[1:24:04] Thank you.
[1:24:05] Thank you.
[1:24:06] OK.
[1:24:07] And so i'm going to ask for a motion and a second here.
[1:24:12] And I'm going to defer to Councilmember
[1:24:14] Andrews and Councilmember Roach and councilmember interest.
[1:24:18] We're it'll be an honor for me to move this item.
[1:24:21] And thank you for the opportunity.
[1:24:23] I'd like to second moved by Councilmember Andrews seconded
[1:24:27] by Councilmember Roach.
[1:24:28] And before I call a vote, I wanted to just briefly
[1:24:32] to just tell a very small story.
[1:24:36] I'm going to take the privilege of the chair,
[1:24:39] my you know, my father moved to Hayward in 1954,
[1:24:43] and he moved here because he had an aunt here that had lived here
[1:24:47] some years before that.
[1:24:49] So probably in the late 40s, early 50s.
[1:24:52] And so, you know, we you know, my family has a very, very
[1:24:57] long history here in Hayward.
[1:25:01] Two years ago when my mother's sister passed away,
[1:25:07] my mom and I went back to New Mexico
[1:25:11] to for the funeral services.
[1:25:13] And after Mass and after the services,
[1:25:16] we go back to the church, to the reception hall, to, you know,
[1:25:22] have the reception and so we were there.
[1:25:26] And there was people there all, you know, milling around.
[1:25:30] And I drove.
[1:25:31] I said this, but my family's originally
[1:25:33] from New Mexico, small town in the southeastern part
[1:25:37] of the state, little small town back there.
[1:25:41] And as we were there at the church in the in the reception
[1:25:46] hall, we're eating this couple walked up to me and they were
[1:25:50] probably in their late 80s 90s, an age and the wife,
[1:25:56] the woman she asked me, she said,
[1:26:01] aren't you the the nephew or the grandson who is from Hayward?
[1:26:07] And I said, Yes.
[1:26:09] And she goes, You're the mayor of Hayward, aren't you?
[1:26:11] And I said, Why, I am.
[1:26:13] And she and so she went into this little story
[1:26:16] about how she lived in Hayward right off of his esperion
[1:26:22] in a little neighborhood and went in.
[1:26:24] Right.
[1:26:25] You know, over there by Shinola way.
[1:26:27] And in those streets over there And she had fond memories
[1:26:31] and she said, yes, we used to after school,
[1:26:34] we used to go across the street and play with our friends who
[1:26:38] lived in that little community right next to the airport.
[1:26:41] And I was like, Yeah, yeah.
[1:26:44] And I go, It was probably Russell City.
[1:26:47] And she says, Yes, absolu lutely.
[1:26:50] And she was sitting there as she was standing
[1:26:52] there telling the story.
[1:26:53] She kind of quietly shook her head
[1:26:55] and she said it was a travesty what had been done
[1:26:59] to those families, a travesty.
[1:27:04] And so here we were, three states away a woman who was
[1:27:10] in her 90s, maybe older, had great memories of growing up
[1:27:15] in Hayward and living in Hayward.
[1:27:17] But the one memory that she wanted to share with me
[1:27:22] was her friends who lived in Russell City
[1:27:25] and how she remembered and the treatment of that neighborhood
[1:27:30] and how it was neglected and, you know, and i
[1:27:35] and I was very happy at that time.
[1:27:38] I was very happy to say, you know, ma'am,
[1:27:41] I think the council, we are about to embark on a process
[1:27:45] where we are going to acknowledge those families
[1:27:48] and repair for the harm that was done.
[1:27:52] And she just, you know she stood there.
[1:27:56] And she goes, it's about time.
[1:27:59] It's about time.
[1:28:00] And so I, I am so glad we are doing this.
[1:28:04] I am so pleased to be the mayor of a city
[1:28:08] with a council like this, making this vote tonight.
[1:28:13] We we're certainly not going to reverse
[1:28:18] everything that had been done.
[1:28:21] But at least this here demonstrates our value
[1:28:27] as a city.
[1:28:29] The value that we focus on is the diversity, inclusion
[1:28:35] and justice.
[1:28:38] So with that, it was moved by Council member Andrews.
[1:28:42] It was seconded by Council member Roach.
[1:28:45] Madam City Clerk Can we please take
[1:28:47] the role and ladies and gentlemen,
[1:29:08] it passes unanimously Thank you.
[1:29:24] Supervisor OK our next item is item number 12,
[1:29:30] and I want to be sure our next item is item number 12.
[1:29:37] And I believe Mayor Pro Tem Seraph wanted to pull item 12.
[1:29:43] Correct Yeah.
[1:29:45] And there is.
[1:29:46] And I do have two public comment cards on that.
[1:29:48] So let me before I go to public comment,
[1:29:52] let me first referred to councilmember or Mayor Pro tem
[1:29:56] and go ahead.
[1:29:57] Thank you.
[1:29:57] I'll start with questions and give comments
[1:29:59] after public comment.
[1:30:00] But just for the public's knowledge,
[1:30:02] this contract is discussing transitioning off
[1:30:04] of flight cameras to Axon.
[1:30:07] Given that a flight cameras expiring or trying
[1:30:10] a flight contract is expiring from my understanding,
[1:30:13] we have two concurrent flight contracts.
[1:30:15] How many remaining flight cameras
[1:30:16] would there be in the city if this transition goes through
[1:30:21] or if we allowed the contract?
[1:30:22] The current flight contract to expire?
[1:30:25] I had that number last night.
[1:30:28] And I just need to look at it or i can also ask Chief Matthews
[1:30:34] if that's it.
[1:30:35] Yes.
[1:30:36] Okay.
[1:30:36] If he can get there faster.
[1:30:38] Oh 23 2023.
[1:30:39] Great.
[1:30:40] Thank you.
[1:30:41] You.
[1:30:41] Yeah, I'll keep the rest.
[1:30:43] My comments for public comment after public comment.
[1:30:46] OK.
[1:30:47] I Councilmember Roach, thank you.
[1:30:49] I wasn't going to speak but since we brought it up,
[1:30:51] I was hoping that we can comment on the funding
[1:30:53] that it's not going to.
[1:30:55] I, I specific question is it's not going now,
[1:30:57] John, any additional general fund dollars for this item,
[1:31:00] is that correct?
[1:31:00] That's correct.
[1:31:01] Okay.
[1:31:01] Thank you.
[1:31:04] Great.
[1:31:04] Okay.
[1:31:05] I'll go to public comment.
[1:31:06] I have two public cards First public comment is, is it
[1:31:11] a Arianna?
[1:31:13] OK Good evening.
[1:31:23] Council.
[1:31:24] My name is Adriana.
[1:31:25] I'm hayward, homeowner and small business owner.
[1:31:28] And I'm speaking on this item and urging council
[1:31:30] to vote no on this item at this time,
[1:31:33] or at least continue this item at least 60 days
[1:31:36] minimum to have a full audit completed,
[1:31:38] such as those done by Mountain View and Los Altos Hills.
[1:31:42] These audits have found out-of-state access
[1:31:44] and we don't yet know the vulnerabilities of access
[1:31:47] or the user center, which is also on this item.
[1:31:50] Well, this technology be similar to the flock AI capability
[1:31:53] that journalists are able to see in a video which
[1:31:56] shows a man rollerblading with the camera panned out
[1:31:58] and then zooming into his phone, playing a video
[1:32:01] while he takes a break.
[1:32:02] Should I set the expectation that these cameras
[1:32:04] can zoom in to what I'm doing?
[1:32:07] Drones.
[1:32:07] First responders are described as flying LPR cameras,
[1:32:11] drones are considered military equipment
[1:32:13] and a recent audit of Elk Grove's flock, a LPR system,
[1:32:16] shows only 3% of searches involving
[1:32:18] data recorded in the city were made by the Acro police
[1:32:22] department.
[1:32:22] The other 8 million were searches from 3,600 other
[1:32:26] cities, counties, states, federal agencies
[1:32:29] and governmental organizations This included fusion centers,
[1:32:32] which collaborate with the Department of Homeland Security.
[1:32:34] It does not appear that police departments can control
[1:32:36] who is searching the data, despite saying
[1:32:38] certain agencies do not have access
[1:32:40] to this police department.
[1:32:42] Also has a robust drone as first Responders
[1:32:44] program and RTI, RC, which is also a part of this resolution.
[1:32:48] Is this what we can expect as an evolution here in Hayward
[1:32:51] as well?
[1:32:52] Do we have policies in place that
[1:32:54] align with the 2017 California Senate Bill
[1:32:56] 54, which restricts state and local law
[1:32:59] enforcement cooperation with federal immigration agents?
[1:33:01] Does anyone know?
[1:33:02] Ice has spent almost $100 million in contracts with Exxon
[1:33:05] in the last two decades since it was created
[1:33:08] in February of this year.
[1:33:10] I signed another contract with Exxon for $220 million,
[1:33:14] at least 50 police officers have been charged or accused
[1:33:16] of using Floc for unauthorized purposes and over half
[1:33:19] of those involved using it on their wives,
[1:33:21] girlfriends, exes as exes, new partners
[1:33:23] or women they wanted to meet.
[1:33:25] According to the Washington post.
[1:33:26] How is this technology going to be different?
[1:33:28] As a survivor of gender based sexual violence,
[1:33:30] who was not able to report to the police
[1:33:32] for those same reasons?
[1:33:33] I have serious concerns about this.
[1:33:35] And representatives could come up here and say anything.
[1:33:38] Today in Wisconsin, the city council
[1:33:40] had to rescind a floor contract within 24 hours
[1:33:42] after Floc representatives lied about the technology's
[1:33:44] capability.
[1:33:45] So without an audit, how can we, the residents of Hayward,
[1:33:48] be expected to trust this decision,
[1:33:50] especially after what just happened with the A.I. Data
[1:33:52] Center?
[1:33:53] Is that the standard that we're setting here for Hayward, Exxon
[1:33:56] makes police more than body cameras, which
[1:33:58] also have a functionality, according
[1:34:00] to Exxon's own website.
[1:34:02] Police can ask the general info about facts,
[1:34:04] definitions, calculations.
[1:34:06] What are common street names for that?
[1:34:07] Next?
[1:34:08] What is 15% of 198?
[1:34:10] These answers are air generated, but the site
[1:34:12] encourages verification before critical use.
[1:34:15] This item also approves the Exxon Pizza Center
[1:34:18] for HPD purchase, which is a real time
[1:34:20] platform that unifies public and private video streams and apps.
[1:34:24] It also is approval of the full Arctic package.
[1:34:27] Does this include Exxon Outpost and Exxon
[1:34:29] Light post Both of these have live streaming capabilities.
[1:34:33] It does not list any other equipment.
[1:34:35] They also have Tasers and vulnerabilities
[1:34:39] have been found with the Tasers meaning general public can
[1:34:41] tap into the Bluetooth.
[1:34:42] Thanks.
[1:34:43] Thank you.
[1:34:45] Our next speaker is Brian Schott Good evening.
[1:34:56] Council Mayor.
[1:34:57] My name is Brian Shannon the resident
[1:34:59] of Hayward's new district one and have been for over 50 years.
[1:35:04] And I live in Morse court next to Cal State, East Bay
[1:35:08] and I'm here speaking in support of this project and the drones
[1:35:12] as a first responder, I had an opportunity to see a demo of it
[1:35:17] from Hayward PD to the Chamber of Commerce
[1:35:20] and the technology to me is what we need in this city.
[1:35:27] It's a necessary investment to meet the number one
[1:35:29] issue of Hayward residents, and that is public safety
[1:35:33] and the need to feel safe.
[1:35:36] I'm sorry.
[1:35:39] And I ask, what price do you put on the price?
[1:35:42] What price do you put on public safety
[1:35:44] Right now we have anywhere from 9 to 15 teams of police
[1:35:48] officers, some working solo, some in combinations at any one
[1:35:53] time on our street with the drone program they
[1:35:57] can get somebody out.
[1:35:58] They can get eyes on the scene before an officer arrives.
[1:36:03] The officer has more time to be knowledgeable
[1:36:05] about the situation.
[1:36:06] They don't have to sit and be assessed.
[1:36:09] It also protects the safety of our personnel.
[1:36:13] So they know what they're up against.
[1:36:15] The scene, we saw was a guy pulled out a gun
[1:36:19] and pointed it out.
[1:36:20] The drone that they showed in the demo, I believe you saw it.
[1:36:24] Bottom line, the the five year contract worth of roughly $2.9
[1:36:29] million breaks down to about $1,600 a day or around $68
[1:36:34] an hour.
[1:36:36] I can tell you that if you could reduce police
[1:36:41] or if you can get reduced crime at $68 an hour, it's a bargain.
[1:36:48] And I would hope that a similar program be
[1:36:50] instituted with Hayward fire.
[1:36:52] Watching these drones down from the nine
[1:36:54] fired district fire stations in the district.
[1:36:57] I live in the hills.
[1:36:59] I want somebody to see the smoke that's coming out of my canyon,
[1:37:03] whether it's a barbecue or a tree on fire.
[1:37:06] So I would urge you to pass this consent item.
[1:37:10] Thank you very much Thank you.
[1:37:14] Our next item, our next speaker, sorry is T.J. Hello.
[1:37:24] Now speaking to item 12.
[1:37:26] I'm T.J. with Hayward Concerned Citizens
[1:37:28] I wanted to pull this item again to extend our organized
[1:37:32] and steadfast support, not only for the DIA, for program itself,
[1:37:36] but also for the proposed technology
[1:37:38] package that comes with it.
[1:37:40] We had an opportunity to get all our questions answered
[1:37:42] by Captain Dan Olson and were assured this is a great deal.
[1:37:46] There will be a force multiplier for our police
[1:37:48] and aid greatly in criminal investor ations
[1:37:51] and maintaining community safety.
[1:37:52] I appreciate Captain Olson's time.
[1:37:55] And I urge Council to not only approve the five year agreement,
[1:37:59] but to consider it a good investment for our city's
[1:38:02] future.
[1:38:02] Beyond that, as Brian Schott referred to.
[1:38:05] Thank you.
[1:38:05] You and have a good night.
[1:38:07] Thank you.
[1:38:09] Next speaker is Theresa.
[1:38:13] Are.
[1:38:16] Hi.
[1:38:16] Good evening, everyone.
[1:38:18] This is Theresa Resentence.
[1:38:21] I'm also a member of Hayward, Concerned Citizen.
[1:38:24] And just like C.J. I am pleased, supportive
[1:38:29] of the deferred program.
[1:38:32] And of the passage from exon enterprises.
[1:38:39] I'm also not at all alarmed at any recording
[1:38:44] by these devices that can be used by the FBI or other law
[1:38:52] enforcement agencies in other cities
[1:38:54] in order to track criminal behavior.
[1:38:57] Here I am much more in favor of safety
[1:39:03] even if it is reducing a little bit of our civil liberties
[1:39:08] because safety is the number one concern that I have.
[1:39:12] Thank you very much Thank you.
[1:39:15] OK.
[1:39:16] So I'd like to come back to the council
[1:39:21] and put a close to public comment and Mayor Pro Tem Ciro.
[1:39:25] Thank you, Mayor.
[1:39:27] I won't belabor the point, because I
[1:39:30] think I've given my position on the expansion of surveillance
[1:39:33] tech in the time of Ice.
[1:39:34] And so I think I'm going to remain consistent
[1:39:36] with that tonight.
[1:39:38] I'm really happy to see that we're transitioning away
[1:39:40] from Floc.
[1:39:40] I do want to say that first and foremost.
[1:39:42] So I want to acknowledge the work that's gone
[1:39:44] into looking for alternatives.
[1:39:45] I do have concerns about the alternatives
[1:39:47] as I do research on Axon versus Floc I see this being coming.
[1:39:51] A battle of almost two investor camps.
[1:39:53] The Wall Street investors and the Silicon Valley investors.
[1:39:56] Silicon Valley's interested in flock.
[1:39:58] Wall Street's interested in Axon.
[1:40:00] Trump is also invested in Axon.
[1:40:02] And so, you know, there's push to move away
[1:40:04] from flock towards Axon.
[1:40:05] I think saves us a bit of money.
[1:40:06] Sure.
[1:40:07] But I don't think it addresses the underlying
[1:40:09] issue of the expansion of mass surveillance infrastructure
[1:40:11] in our communities.
[1:40:12] And so at this time, when we're seeing really blatant abuse
[1:40:16] by Ice agents and contracts being signed with Ice agents,
[1:40:21] I just can't get behind the expansion of more NPR cameras
[1:40:26] and surveillance infrastructure in our communities.
[1:40:28] I understand that is a good investment
[1:40:31] to invest in public safety.
[1:40:32] I think we spend close to 80% of our general fund
[1:40:34] on public safety features as a city,
[1:40:37] our largest chunk by far I also would retort,
[1:40:40] you know, what price do we put on our own civil liberties
[1:40:43] when we have neighbors that are being kidnapped by Ice
[1:40:46] and we're not 100% sure if our tools are
[1:40:48] being used for these purposes.
[1:40:50] So I won't belabor the point any more,
[1:40:53] but that's my stance on it.
[1:40:55] And, if died and passes, it passes Thank
[1:40:59] you, Councilmember Rob O'Neill.
[1:41:02] Thank you, Mayor.
[1:41:03] I just had a quick question for the police chief.
[1:41:06] You know, the domain issue, I think
[1:41:09] that I have is not with this particular contract,
[1:41:12] but in general, is the inappropriate usage or access
[1:41:15] to this data and to this information.
[1:41:17] I think we heard examples today of,
[1:41:20] you know, how this is how these cameras or this footage
[1:41:23] has been used by Ice or it's been in appropriately access
[1:41:26] by members of the community.
[1:41:27] Can you just talk a little bit about sort
[1:41:29] of your level of confidence with data security and access
[1:41:33] to this footage and how that's going
[1:41:34] to be sort of monitored and audited to make sure that this
[1:41:38] is only being accessed, in accordance
[1:41:40] with HPD policy and, you know, through your oversight.
[1:41:44] Yeah, absolutely I'll start with the audit process
[1:41:46] first, because we are doing that with our current program.
[1:41:49] So on a monthly basis, Captain Olson and his staff
[1:41:54] are mining our LPR data to make sure
[1:41:57] that is not being inappropriately accessed
[1:41:59] by people who shouldn't have it, including
[1:42:01] people who are outside the state of California.
[1:42:03] And for people who are from federal agencies
[1:42:05] that are responsible for immigration enforcement.
[1:42:08] We do comply with SB 34 and SB 54.
[1:42:12] And this technology that we're proposing does.
[1:42:15] Also, the other audit that we're doing is on the staff side.
[1:42:19] So in order to access information,
[1:42:21] everybody has an individual user ID
[1:42:23] and everybody has to include a reason code for doing a search.
[1:42:27] And so that is what we're auditing.
[1:42:28] We're making sure that people are accessing
[1:42:30] this for legitimate law enforcement purposes
[1:42:33] and not for personal reasons, so that work
[1:42:36] is ongoing with our current program.
[1:42:39] One of the reasons why we selected Axon as a vendor
[1:42:42] is because we are confident in their ability to protect data.
[1:42:45] We have evidence, all of our digital evidence
[1:42:48] is currently uploaded into that system.
[1:42:50] This information would be uploaded into that system
[1:42:53] as well.
[1:42:54] We contract with them for body worn cameras.
[1:42:57] We have fleet cameras that already
[1:42:59] have their API, our capability.
[1:43:02] And so confident in their ability to protect information,
[1:43:08] keep it out of the hands of people they shouldn't have it.
[1:43:11] Thank you.
[1:43:11] And then as it relates to drones,
[1:43:14] there's going to be particular use
[1:43:15] cases in which those drawings, those drones get deployed.
[1:43:18] They're not just going to be kind of roaming around the city
[1:43:21] during are doing general surveillance,
[1:43:23] like on a regular basis, right?
[1:43:25] Correct.
[1:43:25] We have very explicit prohibition language
[1:43:29] in our policy.
[1:43:31] Random surveillance is not allowed.
[1:43:34] The DIA far concept is solely based on calls for service.
[1:43:38] So it's 100% in response to somebody calling 911
[1:43:41] for something, whether it's on the PD or the fire side.
[1:43:45] Those are the cases where we're talking about using
[1:43:48] this concept Got it.
[1:43:50] And in addition to criminal stuff that will be using these,
[1:43:54] you know, this technology for can't it
[1:43:57] also be used to help us kind of respond in large scale
[1:44:00] fires or natural disasters?
[1:44:02] Can you just help us understand the application
[1:44:04] of this technology beyond, you know,
[1:44:06] crime reduction or crime response?
[1:44:08] Yeah, absolutely.
[1:44:08] I think, in the example of a wildland fire
[1:44:11] getting eyes above it to figure out
[1:44:13] which direction is traveling.
[1:44:14] Having the fire department have the ability
[1:44:16] to take a look at a structure for integrity reasons
[1:44:19] before they're sending stuff inside of it.
[1:44:21] I mean, there's a total application for it
[1:44:22] in emergency response, we set on a major fault line.
[1:44:27] I don't have to tell you, I'm sure we all share the you know,
[1:44:30] that two, 2, 2, 4 a.m.
[1:44:32] window in the middle of the night where we
[1:44:34] worry about things like that.
[1:44:35] If we are subject to a major earthquake, not
[1:44:39] only are we going to have to do damage assessment,
[1:44:41] we're going to have to do rescue operations.
[1:44:45] You know, this is a situational awareness tool
[1:44:48] that's going to help us direct staff
[1:44:50] and direct them faster than we can now.
[1:44:53] Thank you.
[1:44:54] And just because this is approved,
[1:44:56] we were looking at this on an annual basis
[1:44:59] to ensure conformance with policy is an applicable laws.
[1:45:01] And if there's ever a deviation from that,
[1:45:04] we would have an ability to stop this, right?
[1:45:06] Yes.
[1:45:07] So this falls within maybe 41.
[1:45:10] We have to get authorized action from the council annually
[1:45:13] to continue to use that equipment If there
[1:45:16] is an instance of an employee misuse
[1:45:19] or a problem with the program or something
[1:45:21] that the council says, hey, we're shutting it down,
[1:45:23] you absolutely have the ability to do that So this
[1:45:26] will be something that we talk about on an annual basis.
[1:45:28] We're also happy to talk about it.
[1:45:31] You know at the will of the council, Public Safety
[1:45:35] Committee, we have that forum as well.
[1:45:37] So we're happy to share information and present on it.
[1:45:40] We do have a public facing website
[1:45:42] that people can take a look at our policies are there.
[1:45:45] And this this concept will be integrated into that.
[1:45:48] So we will be reporting out on usage people will
[1:45:53] be able to look at that stuff.
[1:45:54] Appreciate that transparency.
[1:45:56] Thank you, Chief.
[1:45:57] And thanks for your leadership.
[1:45:59] Thank you.
[1:45:59] Thank you.
[1:46:00] Before before I call on my on the next speaker, what
[1:46:07] I'd like to do is I'd like to go ahead and move this item
[1:46:11] and moved by Mayor Salinas and seconded by Council member
[1:46:15] Bonilla, Councilmember Goldstein, thank you, Chief.
[1:46:23] You have daughters.
[1:46:25] How would you feel if you found one of your officers using
[1:46:28] the surveillance technology to monitor one of your daughters?
[1:46:39] The the person misusing the technology
[1:46:42] would be subject to discipline up to and including termination.
[1:46:46] I knew that would be your answer.
[1:46:48] And I know you're a man of integrity
[1:46:50] and I absolutely agree with my colleagues
[1:46:54] that this technology can be a real lifesaver.
[1:46:57] We can also really extend our ability
[1:47:01] to reach people who need.
[1:47:04] So a responder.
[1:47:06] Right away, it's got applicability with police
[1:47:10] and fire in rescue operation.
[1:47:13] And and also in monitoring, fleeing suspects and fleeing
[1:47:18] vehicles in a way that does not jeopardize
[1:47:22] our employees or our residents.
[1:47:25] So totally understand that, you know,
[1:47:30] there's some debate around this, but this is honestly
[1:47:33] the most cost effective force multiplier
[1:47:35] that we could possibly apply.
[1:47:38] And we have, you have put in the place we have as a city
[1:47:44] put in place the mechanisms to make sure
[1:47:47] that the technology is used responsibly and not abused,
[1:47:51] correct?
[1:47:52] Absolutely.
[1:47:53] Very good.
[1:47:53] Thank you for your service.
[1:47:54] Thank you Councilmember Andrews.
[1:47:58] Thank you.
[1:47:58] I wanted to ask another question.
[1:48:02] I understand that we have reporting annually.
[1:48:05] I wanted to know if we can increase the reporting in terms
[1:48:08] if there's any misuse, if there's any reports that
[1:48:10] come out on access.
[1:48:12] Hayward anything that's been called in that,
[1:48:16] you know the residents felt like there was misuse.
[1:48:20] I know there's been calls that I've received where people
[1:48:23] thought it was a police drone, but it actually
[1:48:25] was a private drone.
[1:48:26] So just went to see if that was passed.
[1:48:27] Yeah.
[1:48:28] So anybody can report a suspected case of misuse
[1:48:33] either by contacting Internal Affairs,
[1:48:35] they can send me an email, you can
[1:48:37] go to Access Hayward is a variety of mechanisms
[1:48:39] for doing that.
[1:48:40] And they will be investigated.
[1:48:41] And we do.
[1:48:42] And, we do audit the program We have not found a case of misuse
[1:48:47] with the drone program or with the license plate reader program
[1:48:51] on, you know, on behalf of staff.
[1:48:53] I mean, that's something that we've
[1:48:54] had in place since about 2022, I believe.
[1:48:56] So.
[1:48:57] But there is a mechanism for people to report that,
[1:49:00] and that's part of what we will report out
[1:49:03] during a before anyone if we get a complaint
[1:49:05] or if we get a case of misuse.
[1:49:07] That's part of what we're responsible for telling you
[1:49:09] all as our counsel.
[1:49:11] Is it possible.
[1:49:12] You can just report that out at every public safety committee
[1:49:15] meeting and then we can include that in the standing
[1:49:18] presentation slide?
[1:49:19] Sure.
[1:49:19] OK.
[1:49:20] And then also how you all are meeting recommendations
[1:49:22] that you found in ACLU's standards
[1:49:26] for operating a drone program or license plate reader program.
[1:49:30] Is there any kind of cross-reference of that ?
[1:49:34] So we did.
[1:49:35] In fact, one of the people who helped shaped our policy
[1:49:38] was an attorney working for the ACLU at the time.
[1:49:41] I was part of the former advisory panel.
[1:49:44] So the chief and we did review a lot of material published
[1:49:49] by the ACLU on privacy concerns when we built the program
[1:49:53] And that was presented to the council and approved.
[1:49:57] So we did we did look at all of that.
[1:50:00] And can you confirm that he repeatedly
[1:50:05] does not coordinate with Ice?
[1:50:07] We do not.
[1:50:07] And it's under SB 34 and SB 54.
[1:50:12] So legal for us to do that.
[1:50:15] Our policy has been in place.
[1:50:17] Well before the current federal administration.
[1:50:19] And since some of the things that we're seeing now,
[1:50:22] we've had that policy in place for a long time.
[1:50:25] OK.
[1:50:26] Thank you.
[1:50:27] Yes, a few comments.
[1:50:28] Yeah.
[1:50:29] Council member Cyrus, thank you for answering my colleague's
[1:50:31] questions, Chief.
[1:50:32] I appreciate the thoroughness with which you're bringing forth
[1:50:34] this proposal.
[1:50:34] I have a few requests.
[1:50:35] I think you have the support you need here,
[1:50:37] but I want to make sure that we're in.
[1:50:39] What's the expression?
[1:50:39] Dotting the I's and crossing our T's?
[1:50:41] So are we able to ensure that we're not
[1:50:44] livestreaming to these cameras, but that there are drive
[1:50:46] by triggered?
[1:50:46] I want to make sure that it's not a constant surveillance
[1:50:48] speed.
[1:50:49] If this proposal goes through, what is the under.
[1:50:52] What is your understanding of how these cameras are
[1:50:54] going to operate?
[1:50:55] Are you talking about the LPR cameras or the drone technology
[1:50:58] ?
[1:50:58] So my understanding is that they are
[1:51:00] they operate the way that the cameras that we have now operate
[1:51:04] the Alpers technology is a detection technology.
[1:51:07] Does capture images of vehicles with a date
[1:51:09] and time and location stamp.
[1:51:12] The technology either you know we're
[1:51:14] proposing a bring it on board doesn't live
[1:51:19] monitor the movement of people.
[1:51:21] I think my concern is we were told that about Flock.
[1:51:23] We were told a lot of the similar arguments about Flock.
[1:51:25] And then there was found that people
[1:51:26] could hack into these cameras quite easily.
[1:51:28] They were consistently livestreaming and so, you know,
[1:51:30] I'm hearing that Axon has better privacy standards,
[1:51:32] but I just want to make sure that we're
[1:51:34] able to confirm an order that there's not
[1:51:36] a live stream happening but rather it's detection based.
[1:51:38] So that we're protecting people's privacy.
[1:51:39] I see cattle stand behind you.
[1:51:41] You might have some something to add.
[1:51:42] I want to turn it over to Captain Olson.
[1:51:44] Who knows?
[1:51:45] That's great All of this stuff.
[1:51:48] Great.
[1:51:48] Yeah, just a quick clarification on that, councilmember.
[1:51:52] Sorry.
[1:51:52] So the outpost product, the LPR product does
[1:51:55] have the ability to livestream when we are viewing it
[1:51:58] in the fuses platform.
[1:51:59] And it does not pan, it does not tilt it does not zoom
[1:52:02] and it does not record for later.
[1:52:05] Recall Great.
[1:52:06] Down the road.
[1:52:07] Okay.
[1:52:07] And then just as a point of housekeeping for the flock
[1:52:10] cameras that are expiring, how soon to be able to remove
[1:52:13] those poles from the ground.
[1:52:14] So they're not in our communities anymore
[1:52:16] One of my concerns with them is the way they're installed.
[1:52:18] They don't have a break plate, so they
[1:52:19] become a risk for drivers.
[1:52:21] How soon can we expect to see those six cameras removed?
[1:52:25] We haven't discussed that with Flock quite yet.
[1:52:27] And my expectation would be is when the contract ends
[1:52:29] in December, they're going to come get them in December,
[1:52:31] they're going to leave their equipment here
[1:52:33] in our town unpaid for.
[1:52:35] Okay.
[1:52:35] Because sometimes I have canceled their contracts,
[1:52:37] have had to put bags over them because Flock refused
[1:52:39] to come and remove them.
[1:52:40] So I just want us to be prepared to remove them if needed
[1:52:44] And then as far as reporting goes for the Public Safety
[1:52:46] Committee, I would appreciate reports
[1:52:47] similar to what Councilmember Andrews was asking for.
[1:52:50] I would like to understand the efficacy of these helpers.
[1:52:52] What is this help ability rate currently?
[1:52:54] How are the helpers contributing to that?
[1:52:56] Which cases have been associated with it?
[1:52:57] Not just the highlights.
[1:52:58] I know it's fun to tell a story of this particular shot caught
[1:53:01] this guy, but I want to understand
[1:53:03] in general you know, is this technology truly benefiting
[1:53:06] our community and is it worth the cost?
[1:53:08] And without that efficacy, it's also hard for me
[1:53:10] to approve a budget and out of this caliber, given
[1:53:12] that we're in a deficit.
[1:53:14] Yeah, we're happy to do that.
[1:53:16] On that topic, I'm happy to share two cases in the last 2
[1:53:20] or 3 months, we had two infinite auction cases
[1:53:24] One was a domestic violence incident where an offender who
[1:53:28] had prior attempted murder charges
[1:53:30] was involving the mother of his child, physically assaulted her,
[1:53:36] took their infant and left.
[1:53:38] And we had that person in custody in 20 minutes
[1:53:42] without a LPR technology that would
[1:53:44] have been a statewide Amber Alert and who knows what
[1:53:47] the outcome would have been.
[1:53:48] It was safely resolved.
[1:53:50] Maybe a month later.
[1:53:52] Similar situation in that a mother abducted an infant
[1:53:56] that she was not supposed to have.
[1:53:59] We were able to locate her vehicle down
[1:54:03] in Southern California and with the assistance of a Southern
[1:54:06] California law enforcement agency,
[1:54:07] we were able to apprehend her as she
[1:54:10] was trying to get a passport for the child to take the child out
[1:54:15] of country.
[1:54:16] So those are just two examples of the effectiveness of this.
[1:54:21] I'm really happy to hear those cases resolved.
[1:54:23] I think I want to understand on a macro level within the city,
[1:54:26] just in general, how much usage are we seeing from this program
[1:54:29] and how is it benefiting the city?
[1:54:31] I think it's great that those two cases, you know,
[1:54:33] these airports may have contributed to them being closed
[1:54:36] and those crimes being stopped.
[1:54:37] I just want to make sure we understand
[1:54:39] what we're buying here in this is having citywide.
[1:54:42] And then lastly, just one of the concerns
[1:54:44] that came up from a conceptual is
[1:54:45] there have been cases of an Alpine misreading, a license
[1:54:48] plate maybe registering it as a stolen
[1:54:51] vehicle or a vehicle registered in somebody else's name.
[1:54:53] And people are having negative altercations
[1:54:54] with police officers or law enforcement because of.
[1:54:56] So we have not and that's not to say that it can't happen.
[1:55:00] I think one of the things that I've read about
[1:55:02] and I'm familiar with in talking to chiefs from other agencies
[1:55:05] is part of that is human error.
[1:55:07] Right ?
[1:55:08] If a vehicle is reported stolen and it's recovered,
[1:55:11] but it's not taken out of the stolen vehicle system
[1:55:13] and it goes under an HPR camera, Yes, it will alert.
[1:55:16] OK.
[1:55:17] And officers have to you know, make a decision
[1:55:19] about how to respond to that.
[1:55:20] I think the important thing to understand
[1:55:22] is that this is not decision making.
[1:55:24] Technology is detection technology.
[1:55:26] The decision making rests with the individual officer
[1:55:28] who's processing everything at the scene.
[1:55:32] Could that happen?
[1:55:33] Absolutely.
[1:55:34] Am I familiar with that happening to us?
[1:55:35] No And again, you know, we are constantly
[1:55:39] in conversation with our staff to make sure those things
[1:55:41] don't happen.
[1:55:42] OK, great.
[1:55:43] And then the last question here is,
[1:55:45] you said that in order to log into these systems
[1:55:47] requires a reason, by the officer logging into it.
[1:55:50] This is also includes the future system.
[1:55:52] Is that what you're describing?
[1:55:54] Correct.
[1:55:54] OK.
[1:55:55] All right.
[1:55:55] Thank you.
[1:55:56] Thank you I see.
[1:55:58] I see.
[1:56:00] Councilmember or menu.
[1:56:04] Thank you, Mayor.
[1:56:05] And thank you for actually moving on the item.
[1:56:07] So I thought it.
[1:56:09] I you know, one of the main the emails
[1:56:12] that the group of emails that I received as public safety,
[1:56:15] public safety, public safety.
[1:56:17] So in this particular case, I certainly
[1:56:20] agree with the majority of my colleagues up here.
[1:56:25] And I think that we are going to pass this particular item
[1:56:29] on the drone system as can be used by both the firefighters
[1:56:34] and by police Our service talk about saving lives is being used
[1:56:38] right now up in the mountains, etc..
[1:56:41] I've seen it in operation.
[1:56:43] I don't it was mentioned that somebody
[1:56:47] may be using it to spy on their girlfriend
[1:56:51] or whatever the case that they know that happens.
[1:56:53] But if that were to happen then there's possible dismissal.
[1:56:56] I don't think we have that kind of personnel
[1:57:01] in our police or fire fighting force.
[1:57:06] I trust the leadership of our two forces.
[1:57:11] I trust our all of our officers and in the firefighting
[1:57:17] and in the police force, I don't see it at all.
[1:57:23] This is not going to come from our general fund.
[1:57:26] This is five years.
[1:57:30] The change from flag to the other company
[1:57:34] I think it's good for the company.
[1:57:38] 23 cameras, That's fine as far as I'm concerned.
[1:57:41] So I will support this because every m mail
[1:57:48] that I receive where the police I'm I don't feel safe.
[1:57:53] Public safety, please.
[1:57:55] And this is going to help us out.
[1:57:57] So thank you.
[1:58:00] Thank you.
[1:58:02] You know, before i call on the roll call here, I
[1:58:07] you know, I just want to just say that, you know,
[1:58:13] this world is full of cameras.
[1:58:16] There's cameras everywhere.
[1:58:19] And, you know, everywhere we go, we can go to a grocery store.
[1:58:26] Quick, stop, 7-Eleven, anywhere.
[1:58:29] We're we're all on camera and no one asks us
[1:58:35] whether we want to be on camera, but we're on it.
[1:58:45] You know, as a public official, all our or all of us
[1:58:51] are often videotaped without our permission.
[1:58:54] And it's done in hostile ways.
[1:58:57] People are waiting for gotcha moments.
[1:59:00] And they pull out their phones and they get us off guard.
[1:59:06] They get us unprepared.
[1:59:11] And we don't ask for it.
[1:59:14] We don't invite it.
[1:59:16] But the cameras, phones are in our faces.
[1:59:20] They're across tables and and no one, you know,
[1:59:27] and often times people monetize all of that when they catch us
[1:59:33] off guard as elected officials.
[1:59:35] And then they posted and they posted on their platforms.
[1:59:39] And and they monetize as all of us, me, it's been done.
[1:59:46] It's happened to me.
[1:59:48] And that's one way of using cameras in the public.
[1:59:55] But in this case, we we're using cameras to protect people.
[2:00:02] And I don't know, absolutely.
[2:00:05] I know he means well.
[2:00:06] And I and I have a great deal of respect for my colleague
[2:00:11] Zarrab over there.
[2:00:12] And we simply disagree on this issue.
[2:00:15] But, you know, and I don't I don't think
[2:00:18] he meant this in his tone.
[2:00:21] But we need to be very careful on how
[2:00:24] we dismiss the victims of crimes in this city.
[2:00:28] Victims of child abductions in this city,
[2:00:33] that if it weren't for a camera or a license plate reader,
[2:00:39] we would still be looking for that baby.
[2:00:47] And so I take this i take this issue very, very serious.
[2:00:53] I take this vote very, very serious.
[2:00:57] I have been observing this issue for a very long time.
[2:01:01] I've watched council meetings.
[2:01:03] I watched other council meetings in the Bay Area grapple
[2:01:08] with cameras with license plate readers and councils
[2:01:15] all across the Bay Area from conservative councils
[2:01:19] to far left progressive councils to moderate councils.
[2:01:24] Every council I have seen across the Bay Area councils
[2:01:29] are 100% fully behind this.
[2:01:31] Whether you know, you got council members that are for it.
[2:01:35] And you got council members that are against it and and,
[2:01:41] and, and even in some of the most urban cities
[2:01:45] where we have seen kids, city of Richmond
[2:01:51] being another example where there was a girl abducted
[2:01:58] a purely avoidable case.
[2:02:02] It was completely avoidable.
[2:02:03] And not only was that little girl abducted,
[2:02:06] but the person who abducted her came back to Richmond
[2:02:13] to leave again and to be missed because of cameras, because
[2:02:18] of the lack of get or the cameras being turned off.
[2:02:22] So I hope I hope that in this discussion that we keep front
[2:02:30] and center for the victims, the potential victims,
[2:02:36] we city appear and we talk about the most vulnerable.
[2:02:40] All we talked about protecting the most vulnerable.
[2:02:43] Well, this is just one piece.
[2:02:46] And you know what?
[2:02:47] If it doesn't work out, we can pull it.
[2:02:51] We can pull it as the chair of the Public Safety Committee,
[2:02:55] we'll pull it We'll stop it.
[2:02:59] But I. I, you know, I've said this before
[2:03:03] and this will be the last point I make.
[2:03:06] You know, as a mayor and as a council.
[2:03:10] But as a mayor, I have a lot of responsibilities up here.
[2:03:15] And as a mayor But my number one responsibility number one,
[2:03:23] is to ensure that we have a safe community full stop,
[2:03:31] and while while there is a lot of conversation
[2:03:37] and discuss often around this topic,
[2:03:40] around cameras and license plate readers and all this,
[2:03:44] I still think that this is yet one tool
[2:03:47] available to us that will keep people safe
[2:03:50] and in particularly keep people that
[2:03:54] are arguably some of the most vulnerable
[2:03:56] in our community safe.
[2:03:58] And those are kids.
[2:03:59] So that's a madam City clerk, you know,
[2:04:03] please take roll Oops in the item
[2:04:23] passes with six eyes and one.
[2:04:25] No, thank you.
[2:04:31] That's okay.
[2:04:32] I'd like to now move on to our one legislative business
[2:04:37] item, which is the Cao Cities 2026 Annual Conference Adopt
[2:04:45] resolutions.
[2:04:45] One designate and a voting designee.
[2:04:48] Net an alternate for the conference scheduled
[2:04:50] for September 20th 3, 2 25, 2026,
[2:04:53] and to directing the city's voting delegate to vote
[2:04:56] on a proposed League of California Cities General
[2:04:59] Assembly resolution calling for a working group to consider
[2:05:02] actions to ensure final local authority over housing and land
[2:05:06] use decisions.
[2:05:07] And this report will come to us when we and our city manager.
[2:05:12] But I think he's going to win on this one.
[2:05:15] City Manager.
[2:05:15] I win.
[2:05:17] Do you want me to do a staff report and presentation or just.
[2:05:20] Yeah, just do a how many slides?
[2:05:23] 3.
[2:05:24] 3.
[2:05:25] Roll the slides.
[2:05:26] Okay, So those two actions we're asking you to take,
[2:05:30] there's as you may know, the staff report
[2:05:33] said there's a the Cal City conference is coming up
[2:05:36] in September.
[2:05:38] Is is a really important opportunity for the city council
[2:05:40] to advocate for the city's local interests
[2:05:43] within the state to to understand
[2:05:46] what best practices are occurring
[2:05:48] and to vote as part of the Cal City's on Cal City actions.
[2:05:54] So there's two actions.
[2:05:56] One is to essentially designate the delegates.
[2:05:59] And alternative alternates for that.
[2:06:01] So one delegate and two alternates
[2:06:04] and then the second action of someone we go to the next slide
[2:06:08] and would be great is that there is a proposed Cal City's
[2:06:12] resolution.
[2:06:12] The city of Marietta is proposing
[2:06:14] to form a working group to develop
[2:06:16] strategies for strengthening local housing
[2:06:18] and land use authority.
[2:06:20] This is consistent with the city's
[2:06:22] current legislative program that we're in the process of updating
[2:06:24] and that we do want to make sure we
[2:06:27] maintain a balance with local control and housing laws.
[2:06:31] I will say I think the jury's out in terms of whether
[2:06:35] or not the staff would support what ultimately comes
[2:06:37] from that working group or not.
[2:06:38] But we don't see any reason not to support
[2:06:40] the creation of a working group and discussion about that.
[2:06:43] And then to be a part of those discussions
[2:06:46] So we do support this resolution.
[2:06:47] And again, what comes from that working group on
[2:06:49] whether or not we ultimately support what comes from that.
[2:06:52] I think we'd have to look at that more carefully.
[2:06:53] But the formation of that working group makes sense to us.
[2:06:56] And so we are recommending even that once you designate it A
[2:07:00] or designate person to represent to the city,
[2:07:04] that that they also support this resolution.
[2:07:06] So those are the two actions and go to the next slide.
[2:07:11] Designate a General Assembly representative
[2:07:13] and support the proposed Cal Cities resolution OK.
[2:07:17] Thank you.
[2:07:18] So I'll start up here and I'm going
[2:07:21] to nominate Councilmember Bonilla as the delegate
[2:07:23] and Councilmember Roach as the alternate
[2:07:26] How is that to alternate to alternate?
[2:07:29] Oh, okay.
[2:07:30] How about.
[2:07:31] And then we'll be as your alternate Okay?
[2:07:35] Yeah.
[2:07:35] OK.
[2:07:36] So I guess I just got passed.
[2:07:38] I did.
[2:07:39] You okay with that?
[2:07:40] OK, so I'm going to be the primary and two alternates.
[2:07:43] OK, I can do that All right.
[2:07:47] I think we have to have public comment first.
[2:07:48] Yeah.
[2:07:49] Yeah.
[2:07:49] So.
[2:07:50] So we'll do.
[2:07:50] OK.
[2:07:51] So we got that covered.
[2:07:52] And it was to say, oh, and then the id,
[2:07:54] the id, the the resolution.
[2:07:56] Can you go back up to the screen with a resolution
[2:08:05] so to the slide before we go on the you OK So Councilor Ciro
[2:08:11] Mayor pro tem.
[2:08:13] Sorry.
[2:08:14] Thank you Just a question around this.
[2:08:17] The way it's framed gave me the feeling
[2:08:19] of like the Nimby movement a little bit
[2:08:21] where the state is really pushing for more housing
[2:08:23] development in communities that have traditionally blocked
[2:08:26] a lot of housing development And I'm
[2:08:28] curious if this is a way framed under the guise of local control
[2:08:30] to try to take back some of that power where you know,
[2:08:34] that I think would lead to worse housing production results.
[2:08:37] I guess I just wanted to hear your perspective on this.
[2:08:40] I agree.
[2:08:41] I think that is what where this is headed a little bit,
[2:08:45] that that's some of the tone that I'm kind of gaining.
[2:08:48] But I don't think what the action before you
[2:08:51] is really the formation of a working group.
[2:08:53] I think that might be a good thing
[2:08:54] because then you have discussion and there
[2:08:56] could be different voices.
[2:08:57] So I don't see any reason not to support that.
[2:09:00] And having a discussion about it.
[2:09:01] I do think we have in our legislative program.
[2:09:03] Some concerns about maintaining local control.
[2:09:05] So having a robust discussion about that,
[2:09:07] I don't see that as you know, something to be concerned about.
[2:09:10] But I do think what comes from that working group,
[2:09:13] there could be recommendations that when that time comes,
[2:09:16] if it comes and we may come to you
[2:09:19] and maybe recommend not supporting
[2:09:20] some of those specific recommendations
[2:09:22] if they turn out to be really focused on anti housing
[2:09:25] and/or not promoting housing production Okay, great.
[2:09:27] Thank you for that clarification that I'm okay with the staff
[2:09:30] recommendation to support.
[2:09:32] Great.
[2:09:32] And I tried to get out of being a delegate
[2:09:34] and I automatically became a delegate Barry back.
[2:09:36] So okay.
[2:09:41] Okay.
[2:09:42] Let's see.
[2:09:43] Okay.
[2:09:44] So I will close any other comments on the dais?
[2:09:46] No.
[2:09:47] So we'll open up for public comment.
[2:09:49] I don't have any cards.
[2:09:50] I would close public comment.
[2:09:52] I don't see any public comment online So hold on.
[2:09:58] Since I do.
[2:10:00] So, I. Oh, Glen Kirby, one public comment This
[2:10:12] is Raul Aguilar.
[2:10:13] I couldn't resist saying that I would support a working group
[2:10:19] to discuss this because I see pros and cons on both sides
[2:10:27] and I want to make sure we're fully cognizant of that.
[2:10:32] And discuss the impacts.
[2:10:34] Thank you Thank you.
[2:10:40] Okay.
[2:10:40] So I see no more public comment.
[2:10:43] I'll come back up here to the day.
[2:10:45] As you know, I'll entertain a motion.
[2:10:48] I think Councilmember Bonilla already moved it.
[2:10:51] Yes, I count on.
[2:10:53] OK.
[2:10:54] Moved by Councilmember Bonilla Second by Councilmember Roach.
[2:10:56] Madam City Clerk, if you please.
[2:10:58] Take roll And the item pass passes was six or.
[2:11:21] I'm sorry.
[2:11:21] It was seven votes.
[2:11:22] Yes Thank you.
[2:11:26] Before 4, I adjourn, I, absolutely.
[2:11:31] I do have an adjournment.
[2:11:34] This evening for Mayor silliness.
[2:11:38] I believe there's one more.
[2:11:39] Oh, informational item.
[2:11:42] I think I just heard.
[2:11:51] I apologize.
[2:11:53] Our next item is item number 14, the fiscal year 2026 EMQQ three
[2:12:00] quarter three and quarter four semiannual capital improvement
[2:12:04] Progress Report.
[2:12:06] This is an information item.
[2:12:07] This is one of two.
[2:12:10] First of all, there's no staff report,
[2:12:12] but I just wanted to well, there is a staff report,
[2:12:14] but I just wanted to see if there's
[2:12:16] any questions from council regarding this item.
[2:12:20] Seeing none.
[2:12:21] So I will close that item.
[2:12:23] Thanks.
[2:12:23] Thank you.
[2:12:24] Mr. Merry and next, I'd move on to adjournment.
[2:12:31] But before we do that, I do have an item
[2:12:35] that we're going to be adjourning.
[2:12:40] We have lost a inning Incredible individual here in Hayward.
[2:12:48] Judy Harrison passed away on July 19th and had I met Judy
[2:12:56] Harrison when I, I when I became a council member back in 2010.
[2:13:05] And I was a I was the LIPP, I was the liaison
[2:13:09] on to the library, the council liaison to the library.
[2:13:14] And of course, this was when we were ramping up
[2:13:17] and we were working on the Measure C campaign
[2:13:21] and of course, measure C was, you know,
[2:13:25] the measure that we were going to do a lot of infrastructure,
[2:13:30] a lot of infrastructure building the firehouse roads.
[2:13:34] And so forth, but probably the main project
[2:13:37] that we were really talking about out of the Measure C
[2:13:40] project was or the Measure C, it was Measure C was the library.
[2:13:47] Judy Harrison and her friends on the Friends
[2:13:50] of the Haverhill Public Library, a group of retirees
[2:13:57] single handedly.
[2:13:58] And I mean, I you know you know, there
[2:14:01] were you know, there were a lot of support on Measure C
[2:14:03] and also there were a lot of hands on deck
[2:14:05] on Measure C, Judy Harrison and her colleagues in the library
[2:14:10] just went out there and knocked on doors,
[2:14:15] made the case they walked every single day and, you know,
[2:14:21] I there are a lot of people responsible for the passage
[2:14:26] of Measure C Judy Harrison and her colleagues arguably
[2:14:32] are one of the main in green science in that campaign.
[2:14:37] They were key figures in that campaign.
[2:14:41] And and, you know, Judy One thing
[2:14:47] that she will always be remembered
[2:14:49] for, one thing that I will always remember her for
[2:14:53] is her work on Measure C campaign.
[2:14:56] That library is her legacy in this city, no doubt.
[2:15:01] So let me read this.
[2:15:04] So that beloved longtime president
[2:15:06] of the Friends of the Hayward Library, Judy Harrison,
[2:15:10] passed away on July 19 of this year.
[2:15:13] Judy was a librarian at eight.
[2:15:16] She was d for most of her career,
[2:15:18] and she had a huge impact on students in the school district.
[2:15:22] Judy also believed strongly in volunteering and uplifting
[2:15:26] all those in need of help.
[2:15:29] Her impact as a volunteer through her early work
[2:15:32] with the Peace Corps at Sere at Sierra Leone
[2:15:35] and on local area residents through the American
[2:15:39] Association of University Women and her tireless advocacy
[2:15:42] for Measure C and of course her work at the library,
[2:15:47] to name just a few, is immeasurable.
[2:15:50] And through all this Judy was always fun to be around.
[2:15:55] Judy's passion for traveling continued
[2:15:58] to the very end and nothing could keep her down
[2:16:02] She traveled all over the world, spreading joy wherever she went.
[2:16:07] Judy's legacy will live on for many generations.
[2:16:11] Hayward Public Library is planning a celebration of this
[2:16:14] amazing woman's life on Saturday, August 29th,
[2:16:19] from 2 p.m. to 3:30 p.m. at the downtown Hayward Library.
[2:16:25] All Who knew Judy Ah, welcome to join us.
[2:16:29] You know Judy was always full of smiles.
[2:16:34] She was always friendly to talk to.
[2:16:36] She was, you know, she collected books.
[2:16:41] She sold books.
[2:16:42] She convinced people to buy books.
[2:16:45] And she just oh, my gosh, just a wonderful, wonderful person.
[2:16:51] Not only is the city of Hayward missing
[2:16:53] her, but I do know that the Hayward School District is also
[2:16:56] missing her So it is.
[2:16:59] And Judy Harrison's name that I adjourn tonight's meeting.
[2:17:04] Meeting adjourned.
[2:17:05] Thank you, God bless you