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Okay, good morning and I'm going to call the order of the January 3rd, 2026, regular meeting of the Haywood County Board of Commissioners.

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And at this time, if you can stand, please stand for the pledge and for the invocation.

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Proverbs chapter 21, verse 21, says this,

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who ever pursues righteousness and kindness will find life, righteousness, and honor.

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When Solomon penned these words, he was intentional about including kindness alongside of righteousness when living an honorable life.

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I have an opportunity to join me in prayer.

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Heavenly Father, thank you for this day.

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Thank you for the reminder each and every day through your word and through those who have lived before us.

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The important things which should drive us in our daily life, in pursuit of honor, and pursuit of righteousness.

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Let us not forget Solomon's words, the kindness should always accompany righteousness.

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It's in the name of Jesus that I pray. Amen.

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Okay, thank you, Sheriff. We don't have a public hearing today. Next, we'll be our public comment session.

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And if you would, please limit your comments to three minutes, and Amy will be a clock.

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Did you got that figure?

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That way we can keep up with your time.

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It's fine.

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Did Amy?

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That's okay.

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So the first person that I've got signed up to speak is Ted Carr.

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Welcome, Ted.

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Mr. Chair, Mr. Boyne, for measures when my wife and I, of course, first, first elected

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he would count it to move to, we selected acreage and the Battle of Community because

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of the beautiful expanse of farms, we had cornfields and peppers and tomato fields and

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cattle.

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That was all along, how way, 211-10, right, 276, and how late Logan wrote.

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So, we became active in the Battle of the Community Organization to help preserve those farms.

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By educating the farmers about the voluntary ag district, and enhanced voluntary ag district, and conservation easements,

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We bought about 500 acres in the community into the fold.

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Educating the entire vessel community about the value of the farm land,

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we were able to prevent water and sewer lines coming to battle.

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But in recent times, in today's times, when Levi and his team assess farm land,

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then there is a exempt defer tax, this placed on that farmland, and so then at the farmland

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is sold, that defer tax amount for the last three years goes into, I believe, the general

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fund.

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But I'm saying it's not necessary for that to go into the general fund, and you ask why?

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because our county manager, Mr. Morhead, has developed a balanced budget for the year and doesn't need that windfall of the deferred tax.

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So, I ask you, I ask you commissioners, to place the deferred tax into an account that account would be part of matching funds to leverage

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state dollars for the preservation of local farmland.

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So just think about it.

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The current farm and family, this has to retire, but the youngsters

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have gone off to the big city and they don't want to come back to the farm.

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The agriculture development and farmland

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Innovation Trust One, with the help of collected taxes from the deferred tax dollars, would purchase that

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form, perhaps turn it into a co-op, and it'll be run by the current farmers.

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The amount

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near article that Mr. Mandestacy wrote a few days ago, July 22, explained very, very well that

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trust fund. And she pointed out that the formula and preservation is not about preserving

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preventing growth, and I quote, it is about ensuring that growth is balanced and the future

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generations inherit a county that will still contain the working forms, open spaces and agriculture

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traditions that make Haywood County unique.

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I ask you again, commissioners, please put the deferred tax, not in the general fund, but in

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preservation fund. Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, very much. Thank you, Ted.

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Okay, the next person

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signed up to speak is Mandy. Did you see? If I pronounced that wrong, Mandy, you just

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corrected me. Okay.

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Good morning, Chairman and Commissioners. My name is Mandy Stasi and I'm here this morning

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to support the proposed Haywood Working Lands Fund. This proposal represents a practical,

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This could be responsible investment when a Hayley Hayley County's greatest assets are working farms.

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The fund would allow the county to reinvest its share of present-use value rollback tax,

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rather than allowing those dollars to simply be absorbed into the general budget,

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this resolution creates an opportunity to reinvest them into protecting other working lands for future generations.

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The greatest benefit of this fund is not necessarily the dollars that contains but the doors that opens.

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Many state and federal farmland preservation programs require local matching funds or give preference to communities

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that demonstrate local commitment. By establishing even a modest source of local funding,

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Hey, La County can become more competitive for grants from all kinds of conservation partners.

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In many cases, a relatively small local investment can leverage several times that amount

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in outside funding. A $25 to $50,000 annual investment in the county budget can present

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a potential leverage hundreds of thousands of dollars in outside conservation over time.

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that return on investment is the type of fiscal stewardship I'm sure this

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forward would like to continue to invest the county's money in. More money

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coming into Haywood County, more farms preserved, and more opportunities for

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farm families who want to keep their land in agriculture. This fund can also help

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cover costs that grant programs often will not pay for such as appraisals, surveys,

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legal work, environmental assessments, and other expenses that otherwise can

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prevent worthy projects from moving forward.

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Most importantly, this proposal will help us preserve

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more forms and provide more competitive offers

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to landowners considering conservation easements.

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At the March 16th Commissioners meeting Commissioner Long,

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you said politicians can speak platitudes

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about farmland preservation, but in their heart,

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they don't really want it.

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This is all of your opportunity to show your constituents

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what is in your heart.

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Agriculture remains a cornerstone of Haywood County's economy, culture, and heritage.

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The decisions we make today will determine whether future generations in her working forms

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or continue to watch them disappear when parcel at a time.

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I respectfully ask this board to support Haywood's working lands fund and demonstrate Haywood

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County's commitment to preserving the lands that have helped to find our community for generations.

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Thank you for your time and consideration.

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Thank you, Mandy.

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Karen, next person to sign up to speak is ginger on.

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If I didn't pronounce that right, you're correct, Regent.

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Okay.

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Thanks for being here this morning.

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Good morning.

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My name is Ginger Hayme.

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I am on the Haywood County Planning Board.

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I was appointed by this board to represent the town of Wainsville, where I chair the planning board of the town.

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but today I'm here as a private citizen, I have some prepared remarks to read.

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I appreciate the opportunity to speak with you about a practical way for Haywood County to protect one of its greatest assets.

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Our working farms.

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North Carolina.

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Online provides grants to help counties preserve farmland through voluntary agricultural conservation

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easements. But these grants usually require local matching funds. Without that match,

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Haywood County simply cannot compete. And those state dollars will be awarded to other counties

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that have positioned themselves to take advantage of that opportunity. I would encourage you

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to consider 100% of our county's farm rollback tax revenues

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as a permanent source to matching funds

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for farm land preservation grants.

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This is not just another local expense.

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Bringing tax state grant dollars into Haywood County

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expands our local economy without increasing local taxes.

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It's a strategy to leverage our local dollars.

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This is economic development because it brings new capital

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into Haywood County while protecting assets that continue to produce economic value year after year.

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I understand that some of you have expressed concern about the balance between protecting farmland

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and preserving future tax revenues gained from development.

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I respectfully suggest that these goals are not mutually exclusive.

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Even if every viable working farm and Haywood County were permanently protected,

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There would still be substantial acreage available for residential and commercial development, even with our mountainous topology.

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Farmland preservation does not stop growth.

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It's simply ensures that growth occurs without sacrificing the productive lands that can never be replaced.

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Finally, I recognize the very real pressures that you face each year and balancing the county budget.

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But that's precisely why I believe rollback taxes should be dedicated exclusively to farmland preservation.

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These revenues exist because productive farmland has been converted to another use.

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Dedicating 100% of these funds to protect informants that remain creates a clear and lasting commitment.

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It ensures that every acre lost helps preserve other working lands.

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provides a reliable local match to state grants and sends a strong message that Hayway County is

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serious about investing in its agricultural future.

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If these funds were redirected to unrelated purposes, we lose not only the opportunity

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to leverage state dollars, but also the chance to turn today's development into tomorrow's

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preservation.

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I hope you will consider establishing the rollback taxes as revenues in entirety and as

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dedicated source to matching funds so Haywood County can leverage state investment to protect

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the farms and define our community. Thank you for your time and your consideration.

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Thank you Ms. Hayme. Thank you for your service on the plan board.

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That can't be an easy job right now.

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Okay, next person, the speaker is Don Smart.

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Welcome, Don.

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Thank you, Commissioner Anisley and other board members.

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I'm John Smart, full-time farmer and President Haywood County Farm Bureau.

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I like to say we've this celebrate 250 years of our country.

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If we have another 250 years, we've got to do three things.

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We've got to preserve, secure our borders.

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We've got to preserve our farmland.

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And we've got to teach our young people about to value democracy and freedom.

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Farm Bureau in the 6500 members strongly support this resolution that you put forth today

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in the agenda.

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Since 1993, we've worked hard in this county and established in a farmland preservation

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ordinance to try to preserve some of the most beautiful farmland in the world here in

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Haywood County.

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We've got a beautiful county and we need to keep it.

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I can speak in.

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This resolution is going to go a long way to help provide matching funds so we can get funds

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from the state and elsewhere to help people in this county that want to keep reforms for

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the future. So we support you, we look forward for this happening, let us say we've come

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a long way and we've got a long way to go and this is a big step forward. Thank you, much.

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Thank you, don't appreciate all those good vegetables you grow to. Okay, our next person

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The speaker is Martha Mills, there you are,

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and I just want to say, Martha, that your daughter

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Sheila is doing a good job with a week's, a week's tension,

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yep, good morning, I am

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Martha Mills, and I serve as the chairperson for this.

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Ag advisory committee to the formal and preservation. First of all, I just want to say thank you. Thank you for coming forward and seeing the need for some match and funds. We have found ourselves in Hayway County competing with other counties in the state. Hayway County was probably the first on board with this formal and preservation. I served as an ag advisory several years ago.

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And now of the competition is much greater, we jumped on board at first and we were able to get several forms in and now we need some match of funds.

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I know that you all have been working on this and I want to say thank you.

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It's important not only to protect our land, but for future generations we've got FFA kits, we've got 4H kits.

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They need a way to be able to continue to farm.

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It's very important, not only just for the education part,

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but to protect our lands and protect our food system.

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And we just need to move forward with that.

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And I want to say thank you to each and every one of you.

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Thank you, Martha.

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I appreciate you. Okay, so that concludes our public comments.

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Okay, we'll move to constituent

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concerns. Just want to say just one thing from the Commission was the Raccoon Creek

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Back Park. We'll hold its grand opening this Saturday August 8th. Festivities will begin at

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in a.m. and go to 2 p.m. and this will be a family fun day with a bounce house. D.J. Corona

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House and Recreation Games. Please come out and enjoy everything this new park has to offer.

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So there'll be this Saturday from 10 to 2. If you had some families would like to come out

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from that. As far as, on the farmland paraservation, I was talking to Dom this morning, I feel like,

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I feel like maybe me and him both come kind of full circle.

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We used to always try to protect our land and everything from regulations and things like that.

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But unfortunately we have folks that's coming in our community now that are doing things that we don't like.

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I guess you could say.

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And unfortunately that's going to keep going and going.

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So I think this whole board probably supports this

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and the Wayne's going to give us a presentation here

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in just a second, but just let y'all know.

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Does anybody else who will say anything along those lines?

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I want to tell him, thank you for coming in.

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I talked to this about that, because I'm 100% behind that

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and I've pushed forward as long as since I've been involved,

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then I think I think it would really be a half to the farmers.

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We need farmers, but we need, we need to do everything we possible to do to help them

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because one of these days we'll understand why I believe that all this growth keeps coming

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and we start to get 100, but I appreciate it, but I come in and I'm behind you 100 percent.

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Anybody else coming?

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Yeah, just like I had on the walk, Mr. Rain, you said, if you can't tell, we're looking at me,

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I like to eat as well, so I'm behind all of our farmers 100 percent, anything that we can do

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to help our farmers, I'm all for it, even if it cost us a little money to match that,

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I'm all for it, because like I said, I like to eat, I even consider myself a little

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bit of the farmer.

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I've got some honey beans and some chickens, so I guess I can't be considered a farmer

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by having those things, because I like it honey and I like it, so, and I appreciate all

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the vegetables that all you have, the farmers grow, and I've even got some leaf from

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are long there, so I like beef as well. But anyway, anything that we can do to help support

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our farmers, I'm 100% behind it.

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Well, I would like to say thank you for everybody who came out

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and spoke to this matter. Those of you know me, that's where my heart is and I've been pushing

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for this for some time and it always helps to have somebody get behind a push a little bit and we've

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a lot of people come up with a spoon and speak and push toward these tax roll back.

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We've been talking about for some time and as far as farming and preservation goes, it's almost

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like somebody woke up at the last minute and said, wow, we better do something.

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I was in Raleigh, you're not long ago at a meeting and some of those... I can't...

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On urban sprawl counties, all of a sudden, they want to be champions for farmland preservation actually, probably, you know,

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counties just back down. I think they woke up. I hope we're waking up before it's too late.

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And I miss Amanda, I'll call you Amanda. That's very easy to pronounce.

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I couldn't really hear what you said, I'd say I'm a system here sometime that project well up here,

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but I think you said March 16th, I said something about some elected leaders, maybe

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speak platitudes toward farm land preservation, but they really don't really want to move

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the needle. You know, hopefully we can change that. And Commissioner,

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They're easily in a high, went to the District 17 meeting out in Jackson County here a few

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months ago.

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And for those of you who don't know this, I spoke to them about this several times.

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Our mountains have been discovered and are starting to become a retirement destination.

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And we have people coming here to retire, it's beautiful.

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And I was surprised, as we were in that meeting and I don't know about it, but

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But every county from here to Murphy, in District 17, on the shore as far as items that the

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commissioners are hearing back from their constituents and something we need to really move

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forward with this formal ant preservation. From Cherokee County all the way this way and I was

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surprised that it was kind of a unanimous voice that we heard. And so I think our legislators and

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here in that they appropriate some more funding and this budget cycle and I think Mr. Bill and

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Duane is going to speak to that. You're maybe in a few moments, but this is a big day. This is a

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kind of a big day. It's on our agenda and I think we all here are an agreement that we're going to

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push here to cross the finish line and you know so fair bias pushing for these. Thank you. Thank you

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I've been for a long time, so thank you.

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Good morning.

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I'm just going to comment on some of the things my fellow commissioners have said,

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this has been a long time coming.

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And really since the beginning of the time that I was on the board,

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one of the things I've said was important to me

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was maintaining the unique character of Haywood County.

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I was with Farm Bureau for a long time.

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My husband and family and I have a small farm and cloud.

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We had a new calf born on Saturday morning.

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And it's always a good thing to see understand how important it is, and I'm glad to get to

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be a part of this, I believe, as a board and as individuals we are, as I think we're

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all excited to see it pushed across the finish line and to confirm as individuals and

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as a board that we recognize the importance of maintaining the unique character of Haywood

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County, along with obviously, you know, we've got to have places for people to live, but

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we've got to protect the future of our farmlands.

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So I'm tickled to get to be a part of it, finally, and it's good to accomplish things and

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see the board come together in agreement on something.

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So I believe that we'll see that come to pass.

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Mr. Chairman, I might also wait at our neighboring County here, Henderson County.

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They're taking another step farther.

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They're going to have it on the ballot this fall to maybe appropriate some tax that will

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be dedicated for formal and preservation.

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If you know Henderson County, they're under a lot of pressure from development.

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Kenny widespread water brings the DH Hortons of the world and their formal and is evaporating

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because of that.

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So they are getting serious in the hands of the county and they're going to put it on the

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ballot and that the people decide where they want to raise taxes, property taxes, and

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any two-three cents. And so that's something that we can possibly consider here, you know,

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I believe in letting the people speak and we put it on the ballot and here are some real

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money toward farming and preservation. I know some of you folks who are spoke here, you might

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want to explore that and find out about what's going on in our neighboring county over here in

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Okay, I got some more comments, but I'll wait until the wine comes up here in just a second.

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Just a little bit.

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We got a couple of items before that.

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Does anybody have anything else for me?

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Just a constituent with concerns?

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Yeah, I had a kind of busy few weeks.

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I've got a word of the county manager's phone out about various constituent concerns.

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Judy, I think Judy's had several calls and tried to help with some folks that said

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concerns there. So I appreciate the staff. Take care of some of these issues. It's been

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route-forward. So thank you.

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And also, I said last time, please visit a produce stand because you've got local food being sold at these produce stands and most of the time there are the farmers in the ones that are selling it.

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So, we, I know with the other day we've grown some stuff in our garden and my wife fixed everything that we ate just come out of the garden and that didn't get any better than that.

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So, but I do want to just ask everybody to visit a produce stand if you can.

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Okay, so the next order of business will be administrative agency reports and presentations and we have an update on the river gauge and siren system project and a recovery and resiliency manager co-digress this year to speak to that.

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And this is a good time to talk about this because we're about to get into the heart of hurricane season when these things happen.

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Good morning, commissioners.

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I wanted to update you a little bit on our Siren and River gauge project that we initiated

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a couple years back.

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I want to use the presentation that is going to be used for public consumption later.

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Emergency services has built this Allison and Emergency Services Act.

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I have built this presentation and thought it was a good opportunity to educate

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y'all and the public using the presentation that's going forward.

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here. It contains all the information we need for the update.

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When we look back and we ask

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why Syrians needed to be added to the portfolio of how we alert people, it's because

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Syrians make a good audible impact to why or to the way that people understand that the

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emergencies unfolding around them. What does that mean? That means that a Syrians loud and it

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wakes you up sometimes. And that's what's important. But also, we were looking at ways that we

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can mitigate the number one cause of death during storms in Haywood County, which is flooding.

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We pulled data from the Office of Chief Medical Examiner from North Carolina and from

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North Carolina Emergency Management and found that that flooding contributed to the number

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one way people died during the storms here, back in O4 and then 2021 and 2024.

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And so looking at that data and looking at what's missing from the portfolio of alert

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and warning a siren made sense.

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And it improves also how we alert people in areas

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that have poor cellular reception.

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Those buffer areas around where the federal lands are

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in the communities that are poorly served

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by cellular alerting capabilities.

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So we looked at that siren system as a potential

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for how we would alert them.

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What we got out of the grant a few years ago

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from North Carolina Emergency Management

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was funding for 18 sirens. And we strategically placed those sirens in places that we wanted

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to make sure that people were alerted for whatever may happen related to flood. We placed

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ten of those in the Crusoe and 276 corridor. Three of those in the Lake Logan corridor in

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the 215 corridor. Center pigeon in 110 received one siren down towards Brookshire Drive or

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Brookside Drive. I'm sorry. Clyde received a siren there in the town, and then the

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Wainsville watershed. Once you get past the gravel pit there and now it's creek

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you'll lose cell phone reception, so we wanted to be able to warn some people above that,

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especially as the watershed comes down from above them. We also place two sirens at the smoky

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about a smoky mountain event center, and one at Camp Daniel, I'm sorry, one siren at Camp

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Camp Daniel Boone and one siren at the Smoking Mountain events center, reason being as those

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are special populations that may be impacted by severe weather that is just outside

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the norm of flooding.

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It was an opportunity for, especially, you know, we could have never predicted the

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travesty that happened in Texas, but us having Camp Daniel Boone, it being an Asceliore

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poor area.

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We wanted to go ahead and make sure that we were protecting that vulnerable population.

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and then smoking out an event center because it's close to the late

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journalistic a dam and it's also an area where visitors come and may not know

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how to react to the emergencies that unfold here in Haywood County. We thought

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that those were two great special populations to seek siren placement for.

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Looking at the map here and I'm sorry that and we're happy to show you an

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interactive map later if you need it but here are the placement of sirens

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across the area. As you can see, the 276 increase of corridor receive the balance of

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sirens. And this was a tropical storm-fed based grant that we got this off of, so it

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made sense to link it back to tropical storm-fed. But also looking at those other areas,

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you can see that we have a wide placement across this other portion of the county of sirens.

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How they work is pretty simple. One is, they can be remotely triggered or remotely activated based

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on rainfall and observed conditions. That means that if we see that river gauges are rising too quickly,

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or fire departments call in and say, we've got some water out in the road. We need you to

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go ahead and activate the siren. We can activate the entire system, or groupings of sirens within

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the system for certain areas of the county to alert people that that flooding is imminent

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or flooding is started. The other thing is that if that should fail, it has a manual

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backup where the fire department can go to the siren and activate it using a special capability

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that they have. So it was very important for us to have that redundancy built in. So we have

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we have both those options. What do they sound like? As good as I am at singing, I'd prefer

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not to make the sound, and this is a PDF version of the PowerPoint.

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This PowerPoint will be available at readyhatwood.com later this week, and you'll be able

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to click a link and actually hear the siren, but it's a high-low tone.

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It's a digital high-low tone.

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Some people are used to the old air-raid sirens.

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It does not sound like that.

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It sounds more of like a siren that you hear coming out of an ambulance or something

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like that, and it's meant for outdoor warning.

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And to permeate buildings that are close by,

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there's also a spoken message into it.

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Some people might not hear if they're a little bit further away from the

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siren, but if they are closer to it and able to hear,

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it says climb to higher ground.

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And then something that emergency services is using as a catchphrase,

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and I agree with 100% is high low time to go.

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And that way we can reinforce that if you hear the high low siren,

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you need to be moving towards higher ground immediately.

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How far they travel depends on where you're at.

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Safe estimate is a quarter of a mile in each direction, so a half mile radius from the actual siren.

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But that can change based upon valley conditions.

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I can also change upon leaf conditions, rain conditions.

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The company that we used pulled a modeling from a national engineering firm that does a acoustic modeling for things like this.

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And so we believe that based upon that acoustic modeling that we place the sirens in the best locations for where they're at.

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Does does the entirety of the cruiser corridor from, you know, around the hunger creek area down to two 76 have siren coverage?

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Not the entirety of it, but the reason being is some of it doesn't have housing.

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We're concerned about a learning people who are in houses or a clumps of houses or temporary housing like campers.

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So sometimes you'll see gaps in the map where that might be, and that's because it didn't make sense to have a siren for a field, although we're talking about farmland conservation, 100%, we didn't think that was necessary for every pasture.

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Again, those tones and the distance that sound will travel will change with rain, with wind,

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with leaf coverage and everything like that.

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So we are encouraging people to sign up for Haywood Alerts and go through ReadyHaywood.com

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and then watch National Weather Service and use this as one means of being alerted for storms

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during disasters.

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What should people do if they hear it?

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First thing, they should evacuate immediately and not hesitate.

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The activation of the siren isn't a warning of, hey, this might get bad.

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It is, hey, it is getting bad.

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You need to go.

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We also recommend emergency services recommending do not get in your car

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and you should take pets, people, phone if possible,

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and start climbing to higher ground immediately.

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We find that during storms nationwide, people get in their car,

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and they start driving, they come across water, and they think they can make it, and then they can.

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So we encourage people to get out of your house, climb to higher ground, immediately do it by foot,

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and take this as a real warning of, almost like a firefighter knocking at your door saying,

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you've got to get out now.

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Again, high load time to go, that means that flooding may already be happening,

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that means that way to get out of the community might be cut off. So the safest bed is to climb to higher ground,

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and we encourage people to do that on foot.

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And some people might ask if this is a drill.

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We will, the county will put out a lot of messaging before doing a drill, and it typically

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will try and choose good weather days, like a blue sky or something that's predicted to be

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blue sky day.

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People will receive text messages, signboards will be put out, so they'll be a ample opportunity

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where the public should know that this is a drill.

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Otherwise, if it's, you know, a very rainy day and it's going off and they have not received the text messages,

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I understand people may be concerned and they may want to call to confirm, but please climb to higher.

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Program before calling about your confirm or anything like that. We will do a test drill in the county

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at least once a year, just to confirm that the mechanics of it are working. But we do a silent drill

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every night at every siren. People can't hear that, but it tests the components of it. Because

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it's an all-electronic siren. There's no mechanical parts. We're 99% accuracy of the testing. We can say that

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work in an emergency. That's from the manufacturer.

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No siren near me, what should you do? Sign up for

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Haywood Alerts. Siren coverage can't cover everywhere, but we want to make sure that everyone's

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staying abreast of all the emergencies and all the things that are happening. Haywood County

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so we encourage them to sign up for Haywood Alerts. We also encourage them to have a wireless,

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I'm sorry, a weather radio that can activate during storms. And then of course have AMFM radio

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So one thing that we learned during the storm during Haleen is that AM radio was one of the best ways to communicate to people during the disaster.

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We were able to utilize our local radio station for that.

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So we encourage everyone to have a backup battery powered AM radio.

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Of course, always check on ready-heywood.com for the best ways to stay alert.

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They are changing.

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The way our society consumes information and gets information and reacts to that information such as a siren going off is changing.

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weekly daily at this point. So, ready Haywood is dot com is the sole source of or the best source and Haywood County for how to stay abreast of all the alert warning capabilities of the county.

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And also we encourage people to stay weather aware. The county, the state and the federal government have invested in 28 river gauges throughout the county.

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And 14 rain gauges throughout the county because we want to make sure that when we see flooding happening we can let people know it's focused as possible.

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or they can watch the conditions themselves.

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And they can do that by going to NC Feyman.

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You can Google NC Feyman and see those rain

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and river gauges in live time.

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But I don't want people to think that,

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oh, I'll just watch that during the storm,

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your internet may cut out.

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Or the capability of those rain and river gauges

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to transmit might be degraded during the storm.

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So those are great informational items,

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but we shouldn't rely on them again

434
00:37:22,940 --> 00:37:24,580
as the sole source of information

435
00:37:24,580 --> 00:37:27,740
or the sole source of making decisions.

436
00:37:30,470 --> 00:37:37,310
To note, commissioners, we added to those 28 and 14 that you see on the screen there with this grant.

437
00:37:38,750 --> 00:37:46,810
We added, we added a number of, or I'm sorry, a number of river and rain gauges from the grant that we received a couple years ago from in CEM.

438
00:37:47,130 --> 00:37:52,710
So we've increased that number, you know, exponentially, so to speak, to make sure that we have good coverage.

439
00:37:52,710 --> 00:37:57,910
The biggest reason being is that flooding starts in the headwaters, which are on federal lands,

440
00:37:58,110 --> 00:38:03,090
and we can't really put any kind of monitoring to buy some federal lands, especially in the wilderness area.

441
00:38:03,570 --> 00:38:04,810
It's against the federal law.

442
00:38:05,010 --> 00:38:07,850
You can't have anything that moves and technically these moves.

443
00:38:08,430 --> 00:38:15,490
So we have to place these gauges around the county in various areas to capture data as close to those federal lands as possible,

444
00:38:15,770 --> 00:38:19,150
to try and make sure that we're capturing when flood stages are reached.

445
00:38:21,700 --> 00:38:25,400
We want to encourage people to make a plan before the storm.

446
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:30,440
Again, there's some resources on ready-heywood.com, but they should consider a couple of things.

447
00:38:30,860 --> 00:38:35,180
One is if they hear the siren going off or they get an alert saying that there's a flood emergency,

448
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,600
they need to move uphill as quickly as possible.

449
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,380
If they are in a known flood area, they should do it by foot.

450
00:38:43,100 --> 00:38:44,880
They should have an emergency kit ready.

451
00:38:45,380 --> 00:38:49,360
Practice the plan is a family on a blue sky day, what we call a good weather day.

452
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,340
and plan now before the flood happens.

453
00:38:53,780 --> 00:38:56,680
Ultimately, we encourage people to know their hazards around them.

454
00:38:56,900 --> 00:38:58,560
There's a QR code on this presentation.

455
00:38:59,240 --> 00:39:01,420
Flooding is one of several emergencies that can happen

456
00:39:01,420 --> 00:39:04,240
and hey, what county and we're preparing for as many as we can.

457
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,460
And then lastly, we want to encourage people to remember

458
00:39:07,460 --> 00:39:10,940
if they hear the high low from the siren, it's time to go.

459
00:39:11,460 --> 00:39:14,080
We're proud of the work that we've accomplished with the siren,

460
00:39:14,240 --> 00:39:17,380
but we don't want people to lean on that as the only mechanism

461
00:39:17,380 --> 00:39:21,660
for how they're alerted for flood emergency and we encourage them again to go to

462
00:39:21,660 --> 00:39:27,820
ReadyHaywood.com, sign up for Haywood Alerts and seek other opportunities

463
00:39:27,820 --> 00:39:32,660
AMF and radio whether radio, etc. to be informed about whenever and flood

464
00:39:32,660 --> 00:39:36,980
happens. Happy to take any questions or anything from the board.

465
00:39:39,420 --> 00:39:40,400
When you have a

466
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:44,400
siren go off, you've got them counting why, they're not all going to go off the same

467
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:48,960
because if it's flooded and crue so it may not be flooded and then

468
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:50,460
wind's a great question.

469
00:39:51,140 --> 00:39:56,680
We have the capability to set all 18 off at one time or to set it up to set off

470
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,680
just a crue so area or just the Lake Logan area.

471
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:04,580
So, we have a lot of options available to us, so we don't have to set off a whole at one time.

472
00:40:05,140 --> 00:40:12,140
Okay. So, Cody, I've encountered some of these rain gauges just sticking up and random places on private property.

473
00:40:13,260 --> 00:40:15,380
This website, on your presentation.

474
00:40:15,380 --> 00:40:24,340
If I'm in North Carolina, you can go over there and access these rain gauges in our general

475
00:40:24,340 --> 00:40:24,980
area.

476
00:40:25,860 --> 00:40:26,360
Yeah, anytime.

477
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:34,480
Yeah, right now if you find me in C.gov, you can go to it and then you can see across the state

478
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:38,380
all the rain and river gauges that are plugged into that and then you can zoom into the north

479
00:40:38,380 --> 00:40:40,640
or to the Haywood County ones, and you can see them.

480
00:40:40,700 --> 00:40:46,320
You can also see a map, like a Google map, almost, and kind of see where they're placed.

481
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,660
And then you can see where they're going up, and where they're going down what flood stage

482
00:40:49,660 --> 00:40:50,680
looks like, and everything.

483
00:40:50,780 --> 00:40:55,200
So it's a great tool for learning about flood risk in your community.

484
00:40:56,600 --> 00:41:03,060
And those Saturdays, today, capable of an automatic, what's the difference?

485
00:41:03,060 --> 00:41:08,640
and be an automatic and manual, I mean, will they sound in the alarm if the inputs from

486
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:15,000
these rain gauges and river gauges will it automatically give a warning or do y'all have

487
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:16,960
to manually activate that every time?

488
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:23,340
Right now the best option for us is to manually activate them based upon what the fire department's

489
00:41:23,340 --> 00:41:30,260
reporting or what we are seeing on these rainy river gauges to apography of the water basin,

490
00:41:30,260 --> 00:41:33,480
like the floor of the river has changed since holding.

491
00:41:34,500 --> 00:41:38,680
There's more gravel, there's more rock, sediment,

492
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:40,060
everything like that.

493
00:41:40,380 --> 00:41:42,960
And so it may take a little while for them

494
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,280
to readjust some flooding stages.

495
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:50,680
So we think it's important that we do that manually right now.

496
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:55,060
The system is capable of that automatic activation,

497
00:41:56,340 --> 00:41:58,640
but for right now, while they're mapping,

498
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:03,840
what we're doing, some studying and everything, we want to limit the activation to just manual,

499
00:42:04,500 --> 00:42:07,680
either at the, at the, at the siren using the special way of the fire department, can activate

500
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:12,440
it, or emergency services, or activate it remotely with some kind of manual input.

501
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:20,680
Go to your slide today. I appreciate your work on all of this. I know it's been a long-time

502
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:27,840
come and I remember right after Tropical Storm Frey, and I was on a campground with Senator Corbin

503
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:33,940
represent the players and this came up and and everyone thought what a great idea you know

504
00:42:33,940 --> 00:42:39,280
it would cause tropical storm for it would have happened at night. I think the death toll would

505
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:46,060
have been a whole lot larger than it was. So having something like this available for our constituents

506
00:42:46,060 --> 00:42:52,840
to alarm them when floods come and I think a big deal. So again just want to say thank you for

507
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:59,360
work on this and like I said, it's my long time coming so it's good to see that it's

508
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:04,420
inflation rate of oil is chairman on the handsley said, you know, hurricane seasons

509
00:43:04,420 --> 00:43:12,020
upon us and I hope it don't happen but I'm afraid our strongs are getting worse as the

510
00:43:12,020 --> 00:43:16,860
Bible says and it's going to continue to do that so it's good to see this in place so

511
00:43:16,860 --> 00:43:17,580
thank you.

512
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:18,740
Thank you.

513
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:21,100
I'm thanking you.

514
00:43:21,240 --> 00:43:21,500
I'll take that.

515
00:43:21,660 --> 00:43:22,780
I'll need to roll a hard work.

516
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,380
You know, if a cloud can't help it,

517
00:43:27,060 --> 00:43:28,220
over there, it might not work,

518
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:29,860
if my deployed was there in a cloud,

519
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:31,880
anything other than one, we're putting over.

520
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:36,580
We've been in discussion with some of the towns about

521
00:43:36,580 --> 00:43:38,460
where they might want to place some

522
00:43:38,460 --> 00:43:40,380
and then funding opportunities,

523
00:43:40,940 --> 00:43:42,580
we need another grant or something like that.

524
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,700
So we're working through some of those mechanics now

525
00:43:46,180 --> 00:43:51,580
to see if that is possible a path forward for more sirens added to the system.

526
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,160
You know, based on what the towns need.

527
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:55,660
Thank you.

528
00:43:55,740 --> 00:43:56,160
Yeah, no problem.

529
00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:01,480
I don't want to jump the gun, but I'm sitting here listening to what you were saying.

530
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:08,340
And thinking about what will come up next with Dwayne on the front-line preservation.

531
00:44:08,740 --> 00:44:10,580
And I thought, you know, it's a good day in Howard County.

532
00:44:11,220 --> 00:44:14,520
It's good for us to see things that have been concerns of ours.

533
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:22,100
I think to come to pass and feel like you know that we're moving we're moving it forward for the people that live here

534
00:44:22,100 --> 00:44:26,460
So thanks for what you're doing and I hope we never use them

535
00:44:26,460 --> 00:44:30,360
I hope they sound once a year only as a practice

536
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:35,620
I don't I hope we never have to use it to protect you know life and lamb

537
00:44:35,620 --> 00:44:40,380
It's a very scary thing ever done to see the knees go on so thank you for what you're doing

538
00:44:40,380 --> 00:44:41,420
Thank you commissioner

539
00:44:43,240 --> 00:44:44,400
Thank you.

540
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:45,340
Appreciate all your work.

541
00:44:45,740 --> 00:44:48,460
You work on the Biles, too, so we appreciate that.

542
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:58,160
Okay, next we'll be hurricane, healing, mitigation, update, assistant county manager for resiliency

543
00:44:58,160 --> 00:44:59,840
See you in the cover again in Bradford.

544
00:45:00,110 --> 00:45:11,150
Good morning, commissioners. It seems strange to think that we're not that far out from the two year mark from gleam as it approaches.

545
00:45:12,250 --> 00:45:22,030
And we've seen that recovery takes time, takes years to go through. This is the year where we've seen the mitigation and acquisition of the homes for tropical storm for air.

546
00:45:22,750 --> 00:45:29,710
And through development services we have a number of groups that are working to help repair homes on a weekly basis as they come in.

547
00:45:29,710 --> 00:45:39,770
I remind the public that mitigation itself is a state-centric program once we submit those packages to the state for their approval with FEMA.

548
00:45:40,390 --> 00:45:41,510
So it does take time.

549
00:45:41,970 --> 00:45:47,470
And as part of that, once we formed the Recovery and Resilience the Office shortly after the disaster,

550
00:45:48,090 --> 00:45:53,450
Cody began speaking with all the citizens who wanted to participate in that mitigation program.

551
00:45:53,450 --> 00:46:01,210
So I would ask him since he has been the one that has had so much contact with these homeowners to come up and provide us an update of those numbers.

552
00:46:04,810 --> 00:46:06,030
Thank you.

553
00:46:06,650 --> 00:46:11,730
Today, right now, what we have in the pipeline is 87 homes for acquisition.

554
00:46:12,310 --> 00:46:14,830
That mirrors exactly what I said last at our last update.

555
00:46:16,270 --> 00:46:20,610
We haven't lost any in the pipeline and that's very good to hear.

556
00:46:20,610 --> 00:46:23,910
We have 11 in the elevation pipeline.

557
00:46:24,710 --> 00:46:28,850
When I say pipeline, I mean that the state and FEMA are working through the process of getting approval.

558
00:46:29,730 --> 00:46:33,570
We have 29 landslide applications in the pipeline.

559
00:46:34,430 --> 00:46:41,610
We have seven generator projects in the pipeline and then five infrastructure projects in the pipeline.

560
00:46:43,410 --> 00:46:49,670
Out of those acquisition projects, acquisition always come first to help people in the situation they're in.

561
00:46:49,670 --> 00:46:56,930
We have 25 that have been approved and we're working with the state to actively move towards

562
00:46:56,930 --> 00:47:00,450
the acquisition or purposes of those properties.

563
00:47:01,410 --> 00:47:04,050
Where we're at in the process is very early on.

564
00:47:04,330 --> 00:47:08,510
They're hiring a contractor sometime in the next couple of weeks that will manage that acquisition

565
00:47:08,510 --> 00:47:12,990
process for them because we're using the state kind of like our subcontractor and they're

566
00:47:12,990 --> 00:47:14,690
going to kind of sub it out themselves.

567
00:47:14,690 --> 00:47:21,690
And so that contractor, just like in Fred, will work with people to maneuver through the surveys,

568
00:47:22,370 --> 00:47:26,490
the title search, the legal stuff, and then ultimately the acquisition of their properties.

569
00:47:27,230 --> 00:47:29,530
Don't have a firm timeline on when this might happen.

570
00:47:30,050 --> 00:47:35,530
We're hoping in the near future, we'll have a kickoff meeting with those individuals in that selected contractor.

571
00:47:35,810 --> 00:47:37,930
But of course we're dealing with the states timeline.

572
00:47:38,150 --> 00:47:40,590
It's not the counties on this and we're working through that.

573
00:47:40,590 --> 00:47:49,450
The remainder of the 87 homes are spread across two different projects, and maybe a third coming online.

574
00:47:50,070 --> 00:47:53,310
We'll see probably approval for those in the near future.

575
00:47:53,730 --> 00:47:59,770
I'm very hopeful for approval based upon meeting I had with the state, but again it's the FEMA's decision.

576
00:48:00,250 --> 00:48:05,750
I don't want to give false hope or anything, but I'm very optimistic about approval for those just the state and FEMA's timeline.

577
00:48:05,750 --> 00:48:30,870
We do know that those projects for acquisition are at FEMA right now for review and then there's discussion back and forth with the state except for the last project submission packet, which is a state, it's a state thing that they're going through to fix a few things and then they're going to submit that later this week to FEMA for approval.

578
00:48:36,340 --> 00:48:37,660
Thank you, thank you, Cody.

579
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:38,220
Any questions?

580
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:39,640
Okay.

581
00:48:40,060 --> 00:48:40,220
Sorry.

582
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:46,920
Okay.

583
00:48:46,940 --> 00:48:51,060
The next order of business is that he would work in lands fund, soil and water district.

584
00:48:52,140 --> 00:48:54,160
Director, Duane Vanhurt.

585
00:48:54,580 --> 00:48:55,420
And we got Bill Yarber.

586
00:48:55,580 --> 00:48:56,800
You want to come out Bill.

587
00:49:01,390 --> 00:49:04,130
Bill had a meeting about a year ago.

588
00:49:04,290 --> 00:49:09,530
I think his last September what we talked about about this.

589
00:49:13,860 --> 00:49:14,940
Good morning, commissioners.

590
00:49:14,940 --> 00:49:20,620
Yeah, I'm the Wayne Vanhut, the district director with the Haywood Solar Water Conservation District.

591
00:49:21,580 --> 00:49:27,840
And with me today is Mr. Bill Yarbrow, who is the chairman of Solar Water Conservation District.

592
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:36,260
And I want to first thank everybody from the public that made the effort to come here today in support of farmland preservation.

593
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:39,420
It speaks to how important this issue is to the community.

594
00:49:39,420 --> 00:49:44,540
and we're going to go sort of quickly through this and look forward to the commissioner's

595
00:49:44,540 --> 00:49:51,140
questions and feedback on this program. So I'm just going to make a couple of quick points

596
00:49:51,140 --> 00:49:58,580
you all have seen this. We have the concept summary up now for everyone to take a look at.

597
00:49:58,580 --> 00:49:59,960
I think one of the big points to them.

598
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:07,220
A few big points to make here is that this is not creating a new county program or a new function.

599
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:13,500
This is to support our existing farmland preservation program.

600
00:50:14,740 --> 00:50:19,900
And I think we all understand when we talk about rollback taxes, but just to make sure that the

601
00:50:19,900 --> 00:50:26,140
public is aware, bland that is in present use value is what we're talking about.

602
00:50:26,140 --> 00:50:33,960
And if the property comes out of present use value for any reason, there is a fee associated

603
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:37,740
with that, a back taxes that is paid.

604
00:50:38,700 --> 00:50:46,200
And so those rollback taxes would be the funding that would be part of this program.

605
00:50:46,540 --> 00:50:55,120
And that varies obviously from year to year how much would be available in that part of money.

606
00:50:55,120 --> 00:51:06,260
And the way this is set up, it's up to the commissioners to decide each year kind of how much of that fund once you're aware of what is in it that you would like to appropriate.

607
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:15,400
To this use of funding, and that brings us to the next section, which are the different things that we would use the funding for.

608
00:51:15,860 --> 00:51:22,200
And of course, as everyone has talked about, it can be used to match state federal grants.

609
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:29,300
grants and I think that's important. We could also use it to match any private donations or to work

610
00:51:29,300 --> 00:51:35,440
with other nonprofits that may have some funding to put towards these easements. Some of the other

611
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:40,320
things that are just associated with the cost of doing an easement are priceless surveys,

612
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:47,440
legal, total work, closing costs, baseline documents, environmental assessments. These are all things

613
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:52,800
go into an easement sometimes you do all of them sometimes you only do some of those depending

614
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:59,220
on the project and this money could be used to fill in a gap if we if we had need funding

615
00:51:59,220 --> 00:52:03,300
to complete one or all of those tasks.

616
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:09,100
It sets up the solar water district to be the easement

617
00:52:09,100 --> 00:52:17,220
holder of any associated project that's something that we are already doing and then we talk about

618
00:52:17,220 --> 00:52:26,920
some of the different funding partners that could be out there, the state ADFP program, USDA Farm

619
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:33,920
Bill, and I think it's important to note, we have tried in the past partnering with some

620
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:41,420
of the local nonprofits to go after federal funding, and it's kind of difficult to get those

621
00:52:41,420 --> 00:52:46,160
here just because of some of the stipulations on what they're looking for. But with each Farm

622
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:52,360
new opportunities arise and in the current farm bill if it's passed they're going to separate

623
00:52:52,360 --> 00:53:00,280
out and do a special forestry funded program and change a little bit the regular agricultural

624
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:06,500
program. So we're hopeful that that will open some avenues for us to apply for federal dollars

625
00:53:06,500 --> 00:53:12,680
in the future and having some funding for match always helps when you're doing these grant applications.

626
00:53:14,240 --> 00:53:19,980
Of course, any private foundations or conservation organizations, land known or donations.

627
00:53:22,550 --> 00:53:30,320
So the initial structure would be that the board recognizes the importance of the program,

628
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:33,720
does not create a new program.

629
00:53:35,260 --> 00:53:41,240
You will consider an annual amount when you have finished an audit and know how much money

630
00:53:41,240 --> 00:53:42,760
is in that program.

631
00:53:43,760 --> 00:54:04,900
Does it establish any sort of floor or mandatory appropriation from year to year requires the district to be the easement holder and then of course we just I just mentioned all the different things that we can use the funding for so that is a quick summary of what is in the the concept we

632
00:54:14,370 --> 00:54:21,610
put together a draft resolution and obviously we're not going to be voting on this today but

633
00:54:22,430 --> 00:54:29,430
This really just the things that I just talked about puts it in a draft, resolution form for you to look at.

634
00:54:30,050 --> 00:54:31,970
So I won't go back through all of those.

635
00:54:32,270 --> 00:54:39,390
It just talks about each of the different parts of that and lays them out into the different sections here in a draft.

636
00:54:40,110 --> 00:54:51,390
Draft resolution, which we can certainly edit and brain back to you based on on your feedback, which is what we are here today to talk to you about.

637
00:54:52,530 --> 00:54:54,270
Okay, did you want to say anything, Bill?

638
00:54:54,510 --> 00:54:55,010
Yeah, good.

639
00:54:55,390 --> 00:54:57,510
If it suits you.

640
00:54:57,990 --> 00:54:59,910
Thank you for letting us be here today.

641
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:09,300
One thing, it's the one that's talking to the mock group. Yeah, it would want to be perfectly clear for you is how much appreciation it is for the county commissioners.

642
00:55:09,500 --> 00:55:15,400
You don't realize it, but Haywood was one of the first with a voluntary ag district, and the commissioners had to approve that.

643
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:27,640
It's one of the first with the enhanced voluntary agriculture commissioners had to approve that. You allowed the sole and water conservation district to do the things that took make these possible.

644
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:33,080
where other groups would have to pay, you did this because you allowed us to do it.

645
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:39,880
We do the maps, we work with the legal, we work with the survey, we work with the state or the Fed,

646
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:41,240
or whoever's funding this.

647
00:55:42,140 --> 00:55:44,840
And we also do another part and it comes very expensive.

648
00:55:45,420 --> 00:55:46,760
It's the monitoring of it.

649
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:49,380
So somebody has to do that to make sure it continues.

650
00:55:50,660 --> 00:55:56,920
You're funding through a soil and water and your ability to trust us to do it is what makes that work.

651
00:55:56,920 --> 00:56:03,680
So, we already have a program, we already know what we're doing, we'll need to state in a number of easements that we hold.

652
00:56:04,240 --> 00:56:08,180
So, I think you can have comfort in understanding that we can do this process.

653
00:56:08,500 --> 00:56:15,340
The thing that has been missing, obviously, is additional funding and we've been able to compete across the state.

654
00:56:16,060 --> 00:56:23,420
Commissioner Long mentioned that other urban areas are now involved in this, much as time too late.

655
00:56:23,420 --> 00:56:32,680
But because they are, we're having a hard time competing, because they can get additional funding from a lot of different sources, and then that kills us with try to compete.

656
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:36,340
So what you're doing is very exceptional, and we appreciate it.

657
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:41,800
For anything we can do to answer your questions, we're certainly here to do that for you. Thank you.

658
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:50,420
I'm glad to say that, you know, when I first became aware really of the mechanics of how a

659
00:56:50,420 --> 00:56:57,040
foreign land preservation easement would work, I was personally surprised at the cost for

660
00:56:57,040 --> 00:57:03,480
the land owner. And so, you know, that could have been, or could be, a barrier to some land

661
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:09,180
owners unable to proceed or apply for an easement because of the survey cost and attorney fees

662
00:57:09,180 --> 00:57:15,520
things for that nature. So I feel like this is a really good, I think this will be of great

663
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:23,980
benefit to those landowners to offset the cost at least of getting started and has made

664
00:57:23,980 --> 00:57:30,920
them topic I guess very visible in the community and my hope is that we will see some private

665
00:57:31,500 --> 00:57:37,820
funds come in also to support the match. So I just thought that was interesting because that's very

666
00:57:44,550 --> 00:57:54,790
I just, you know, we name this working lands is what we're calling it's fun because what we want is for these areas not to just be abandoned.

667
00:57:55,350 --> 00:58:01,850
You know, we want them to continue to have cattle on them or crops or whatever that farms being used for.

668
00:58:01,850 --> 00:58:11,990
So when you all see that working lands fund, you'll know that that's what we're referring to as

669
00:58:11,990 --> 00:58:12,970
farmland preservation.

670
00:58:16,250 --> 00:58:19,670
I hope we can expand this as much as we can.

671
00:58:19,850 --> 00:58:27,870
I know developers will constantly be looking for potential property owners to sell to buy property,

672
00:58:29,730 --> 00:58:35,910
especially in areas where there is water and sewer, and we don't have a lot of water and

673
00:58:35,910 --> 00:58:39,650
sewer in the county, but still, you know, one day it could be there.

674
00:58:39,910 --> 00:58:46,330
So any property owner that maybe has an idea that they want to do this, you know, it'd be

675
00:58:46,330 --> 00:58:51,010
good if we can get as much as we can to, you know, to further this.

676
00:58:51,710 --> 00:59:04,650
And I've even talked about a, maybe even have an additional item on our tax, or tax rate that goes just too formally in preservation.

677
00:59:05,210 --> 00:59:11,030
You know, maybe a penny, two penny, three pennies. I know a penny is about a little over a million dollars a year.

678
00:59:11,830 --> 00:59:20,810
We've talked with Brian about a sales tax, we're exploring some of that, to me a sales tax would be good.

679
00:59:21,210 --> 00:59:31,230
I'm a property owner and I pay a lot of property taxes, but if we had sales tax, then some of the tourists coming here and other people would help pay for it.

680
00:59:31,230 --> 00:59:39,090
So we've, we're kicking that around and if we were to expand it to something like that,

681
00:59:39,650 --> 00:59:44,970
what would you guys think you would need then as far as staff,

682
00:59:45,530 --> 00:59:51,230
I guess you would need somebody to make sure if we get a lot of these that would enforce the

683
00:59:52,270 --> 00:59:56,270
the ordinance or not the ordinance but the conservation easement.

684
00:59:56,350 --> 00:59:59,970
I guess we would need somebody to make sure we're doing that because I know we have

685
01:00:00,270 --> 01:00:14,270
Currently, I know of one, and there's probably some more where there is time goes on. The property we're done realising or they sell it to somebody else and the sudden they think they can do what they want to and they don't realise it.

686
01:00:15,130 --> 01:00:21,170
And we want to make sure that we keep it like that because that's what they agreed to do.

687
01:00:21,170 --> 01:00:32,570
And that is hugely important that was I mentioned monitoring if we don't do that and our staff is already monitoring every single one of our easements every year.

688
01:00:32,930 --> 01:00:39,790
So that's the other thing that the commissioners did several years ago was allow us to be able to utilize your legal.

689
01:00:40,490 --> 01:00:46,370
So Frank Quain right now can do those if we have an issue because that could be an incredible thing.

690
01:00:46,370 --> 01:00:50,430
to a three generations down, and then all of a sudden, they built something we didn't do or

691
01:00:50,430 --> 01:00:51,010
job.

692
01:00:51,650 --> 01:00:56,910
As far as how much can we do with the staff, I'm confident with what we have now.

693
01:00:57,290 --> 01:01:01,370
We can continue to use that if it was a million dollars.

694
01:01:01,650 --> 01:01:03,210
We can turn that around.

695
01:01:03,530 --> 01:01:11,970
There's already a place in the state for a match up to $2 million, or they'll actually provide

696
01:01:11,970 --> 01:01:14,290
a $2 million for a one million dollar match.

697
01:01:14,290 --> 01:01:23,050
So yeah, and I think we can do the same with the other private foundations, it's that match, it's like anything else, and I've said this for years.

698
01:01:24,390 --> 01:01:28,550
If you can get, you can turn $10 with $1.

699
01:01:29,710 --> 01:01:38,190
If you get, but that dollar is the first, there's the hardest one you ever get because you've got to make sure everybody understands that you've got the capacity to be able to make it happen.

700
01:01:38,190 --> 01:01:44,210
I can assure you we have the capacity to make it happen because of the cooperation from

701
01:01:44,210 --> 01:01:46,210
so many people in so much time.

702
01:01:46,470 --> 01:01:50,310
But like the state money is when we get those, do they appropriate?

703
01:01:50,590 --> 01:01:52,110
We only get a portion of those, right?

704
01:01:52,270 --> 01:01:54,510
Or if we have something for them to match, they've got it.

705
01:01:54,850 --> 01:02:01,230
That's called agricultural opportunities on, there's only one or two in the state that have applied for that.

706
01:02:01,550 --> 01:02:03,870
But that's something that Henderson is looking at.

707
01:02:03,970 --> 01:02:06,710
If they can get some tax money, they're going to go into that.

708
01:02:06,710 --> 01:02:08,490
so that the state would match it.

709
01:02:09,050 --> 01:02:14,190
The advantage of that is, right now, if we had a million dollars, or if they were to

710
01:02:14,190 --> 01:02:19,050
appropriate a million dollars through the state, it's spread across the whole state.

711
01:02:19,210 --> 01:02:24,010
You had to compete with this money that you're talking about with Ag opportunity.

712
01:02:24,010 --> 01:02:29,230
We get to choose, and that's the farmland preservation group that's mentioned, that

713
01:02:29,230 --> 01:02:32,130
advisory is the one that come up and rank those.

714
01:02:32,130 --> 01:02:36,830
So we'd be more competitive with that than we need anything else.

715
01:02:36,830 --> 01:02:38,810
Okay, so that would be automatic.

716
01:02:40,170 --> 01:02:45,770
Be automatic if you get approved for it and that's then that money is safe and

717
01:02:45,770 --> 01:02:49,050
in a way secured for this particular county.

718
01:02:49,510 --> 01:02:49,610
Right.

719
01:02:49,890 --> 01:02:53,570
And see, I think we county's always led like you've talked about and I think we can lead in

720
01:02:53,570 --> 01:02:54,490
this.

721
01:02:54,870 --> 01:02:58,670
You know, we just got to identify where we can get that part of money because I would

722
01:02:58,670 --> 01:03:04,130
to get, you know, maybe upwards of 3 million a year or more, because then we can do some

723
01:03:04,690 --> 01:03:12,270
real, you know, a lot of easements in it. People are getting the value that they're supposed

724
01:03:12,270 --> 01:03:15,590
to be getting, because they don't get the whole value, I don't think.

725
01:03:15,590 --> 01:03:21,470
Oh, no, that's the thing. It's even with the state program, it's only 50%. We need to make

726
01:03:21,470 --> 01:03:25,770
just like Jennifer said, the farmer is putting a tremendous amount of his own capture.

727
01:03:25,770 --> 01:03:33,270
It's in his heart to do this, it's not something that you can do it if you're, if you were to go to a seal you a hoarder

728
01:03:35,730 --> 01:03:40,310
Economics class it wouldn't be right. You said you're going to give away half of what it's worth

729
01:03:40,310 --> 01:03:46,370
They're done it because it's the heart, but it's the next generation that says there's two phone numbers

730
01:03:46,370 --> 01:03:49,270
If a farmer falls down with a heart attack, it's always

731
01:03:49,810 --> 01:03:51,930
911 and it's a real estate agent

732
01:03:51,930 --> 01:03:52,390
to say.

733
01:03:53,830 --> 01:03:55,930
Well, in that's their 401k, if you will.

734
01:03:56,090 --> 01:03:57,410
That's the farmer's 401k.

735
01:03:58,490 --> 01:04:03,030
And people've got to realize that, you know, that farmer created what you're looking at.

736
01:04:03,110 --> 01:04:08,650
Don't take his property rights away from him by restricted to the point where he can't do something with it.

737
01:04:08,730 --> 01:04:17,070
When in fact, we've got another opportunity to be able to get most of that back and give a little bit, but not the whole thing if you will.

738
01:04:17,070 --> 01:04:23,610
You know, and then the community benefits from those, you know, farmlands being there.

739
01:04:23,970 --> 01:04:24,070
Absolutely.

740
01:04:24,630 --> 01:04:29,290
And then, with a work in lands like you have it prepared here and through Haywood and so on and

741
01:04:29,290 --> 01:04:34,030
water, it has to be an agricultural practice that can't go in and do anything else.

742
01:04:34,130 --> 01:04:34,690
That's the right.

743
01:04:35,190 --> 01:04:39,590
So that's the main thing, it's not, it's not to turn it into a wilderness area or so.

744
01:04:40,170 --> 01:04:42,270
It has to be an agricultural practice.

745
01:04:42,810 --> 01:04:51,230
And that's what I want, you know, I think that's what everybody wants to see, you know, we want to be able to see that a lot of times I'll do surveys for new property owners, and they're

746
01:04:51,230 --> 01:04:56,190
They move in here and they end up buying a piece of property and they're like, I don't cat on it, I'm like

747
01:04:56,810 --> 01:04:59,970
It's not going to look like, it's not going to look like a golf course when you

748
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:19,420
We take those cattle off in one year, two years, three years of rabbit taint get through there, you know, because it's just, it's just so grown up. So I think, you know, by making sure that it's used in agriculture, that'll keep that, that looked that we're looking for in the, and to keep the land working, if you will.

749
01:05:19,420 --> 01:05:24,600
I didn't mean to take all the time, but you might have anything else.

750
01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:27,000
I'd go ahead and tell them.

751
01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:32,600
Do I not, I'd like to ask, I know there's a few counties across the state doing this.

752
01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:38,140
Did y'all model this after someone else's document or just a regional,

753
01:05:40,100 --> 01:05:41,240
it was a regional.

754
01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:43,380
Yeah, a lot of work into that.

755
01:05:45,140 --> 01:05:52,920
Brian put a lot of work into it, we were involved as well, and so I think he did take,

756
01:05:52,980 --> 01:05:57,560
let me back, he definitely took a look around at some of the things that other counties

757
01:05:57,560 --> 01:05:58,120
had done.

758
01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:01,040
We didn't just build it from scratch.

759
01:06:01,260 --> 01:06:05,520
You should never do that because it don't reinvent the wheel if it's out there.

760
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:09,460
So let me back up and say, yes, we did look at what other counties did, and then we built this

761
01:06:09,460 --> 01:06:17,780
But we wanted to make sure it fit, hey wood, yeah, yeah, I guess my next question, I'll go ahead

762
01:06:17,780 --> 01:06:28,700
What do aim was side stepping is amateur's bar of professional steel. We did look around and but then conversations with you, right?

763
01:06:28,740 --> 01:06:33,260
It's a pretty simple program. The the rollback figures will go into a separate account

764
01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:39,440
available to enhance the program from currently half, but we did look in other places

765
01:06:39,460 --> 01:06:41,300
around the state have similar programs.

766
01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:45,520
But if we want to go big, that's, you know,

767
01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:48,120
we need to do what I was just talking about.

768
01:06:48,220 --> 01:06:50,900
You know, it's either a tax rate or a sales tax.

769
01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:53,800
And I know Grants had some ideas about that.

770
01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:57,260
And we've also got to have some guardrails, right?

771
01:06:57,260 --> 01:06:59,980
You know, you and I were talking, you might just mention that.

772
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:01,500
I had even thought of that.

773
01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:09,260
I think there's lots of different ways we could go outside.

774
01:07:09,260 --> 01:07:14,980
And this, if you look over the last five years, it's about 75,000-dollar average when you

775
01:07:14,980 --> 01:07:20,060
control for some of the bigger parcels, so that's a much smaller program than anything

776
01:07:20,060 --> 01:07:28,180
where we'd be pledging property tax or some sort of revenue tax, sales tax revenue, keep

777
01:07:28,180 --> 01:07:33,760
on sales tax, we already led all of the articles that the state allows us, so we would have to have

778
01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:42,300
special authority for additional sales tax, so that one will be tougher to navigate.

779
01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:47,780
And then as far as developing a program, I think we need to sit down and see what we're

780
01:07:47,780 --> 01:07:52,860
trying to accomplish to make sure that we don't incentivize the wrong behavior about that.

781
01:07:54,760 --> 01:08:01,780
So 75,000 dollar program based on current operations and helping, especially those that want

782
01:08:01,780 --> 01:08:07,000
donate their land is one thing but we'll need some time to develop something to make sure we're

783
01:08:08,020 --> 01:08:10,780
accomplishing at the policy level what the board wants to do.

784
01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:14,920
Okay.

785
01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:23,400
Could we do, I mean I think from what build this program about that the state has that you were

786
01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:29,700
just talking about where whatever we give, they'll match, twice, it's kind of like conservation

787
01:08:29,700 --> 01:08:36,340
capitalism might say. That's the way to look at it. If we can do that, it sounds like we need

788
01:08:36,340 --> 01:08:41,700
to kind of get on the bandwagon as soon as we can to start taking advantage of that, especially

789
01:08:43,180 --> 01:08:50,120
with the attitude of some people coming in here building a lot of houses. You know, I think we need

790
01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:54,740
to let people know that maybe we're working towards this and they've got another opportunity they can

791
01:08:54,740 --> 01:08:56,300
if you will.

792
01:08:59,110 --> 01:09:03,670
So, could we do maybe a work session in the future?

793
01:09:04,510 --> 01:09:05,030
Certainly.

794
01:09:05,830 --> 01:09:09,470
I know when this first, I mean, say this, when this first came up,

795
01:09:09,530 --> 01:09:11,510
we were in the middle of budget right in March.

796
01:09:12,150 --> 01:09:15,670
You know, we didn't have time to look into this, like we do now.

797
01:09:16,970 --> 01:09:20,570
I think if, please, the Board, we could start working on that

798
01:09:20,570 --> 01:09:24,330
and give an update for something in late fall,

799
01:09:24,330 --> 01:09:29,550
bring back to you, and then we could incorporate that into the upcoming budget.

800
01:09:30,270 --> 01:09:33,490
We're already in August, I'm already starting to talk about next year's budget.

801
01:09:36,010 --> 01:09:42,090
Given the resources we're talking about putting into it, it will take time to make sure we get it right.

802
01:09:42,670 --> 01:09:43,010
Yeah, exactly.

803
01:09:44,330 --> 01:09:49,830
So maybe I think the sooner we get down the road, the sooner we can start.

804
01:09:49,830 --> 01:09:55,490
You know, maybe collect in that match to get what we need to do the formula in preservation.

805
01:09:56,290 --> 01:09:57,650
And you know, you want to have more interest.

806
01:09:57,930 --> 01:09:59,970
I would thank because farmers will be getting...

807
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:28,260
The value that they should always be getting. But if they do want to donate, I know there's been a son that just donated straight out. You know, they didn't have kids and they just, you know, they kept out their house and they just, you know, but not very few people can do that. Very few people can do that. So, not point out just as just as a note on this. This is starting to smell like a need for an actual ordinance.

808
01:10:29,420 --> 01:10:38,200
and the program be figure out what the program wants to look like, figure out how to

809
01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:39,480
be implemented and so forth.

810
01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:43,760
And then we'll craft an ordinance, a county ordinance for the process, and that will

811
01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:54,860
both describe sort of the funding source, the expenditure process, and perhaps if you

812
01:10:54,860 --> 01:11:02,560
start to get some competition inside the county for the funds, some kinds of determination

813
01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:10,520
process with that. So I think I'm looking at Amy because we just finished with the

814
01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:19,500
with recasting the entire Haywood County ordinance book. And we always do that. Yeah, of course,

815
01:11:19,500 --> 01:11:27,020
we're always doing that. But this time, we're going to be creating our own first from the

816
01:11:27,020 --> 01:11:31,980
ground up ordinance. I think that's what the thing wants to look like as into the process.

817
01:11:32,120 --> 01:11:37,480
Because you're both setting up a permanent program or at least a program for now and up

818
01:11:37,480 --> 01:11:45,720
which you're definitely dealing with funding and also multi-year obligations. So just a note

819
01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:52,020
process. One thing I would like to say about this is,

820
01:11:54,100 --> 01:11:55,520
you know, we've seen a lot of large

821
01:11:55,520 --> 01:12:00,620
trace land and they would count to be sold and or the transactions have occurred and there

822
01:12:00,620 --> 01:12:06,700
have been development on them. And my hope would be that with large funding for matching

823
01:12:07,740 --> 01:12:14,740
in assistance for the farmer, that it would reduce the villainizing a property owner who sells

824
01:12:14,740 --> 01:12:23,320
their property for development. What I mean by that is that what has been available for payment

825
01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:29,540
to the landowner currently through these easements has not matched really market dollar.

826
01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:40,220
And so I'm hope my hope it would be that this type of program, a local program would make

827
01:12:40,220 --> 01:12:47,340
more attractive to a landowner, to not to not sell it for development. I guess is what I want

828
01:12:47,340 --> 01:12:53,300
to make sure that people understand. We have certainly never want to villainize our property owners

829
01:12:53,300 --> 01:12:59,220
and I believe Brendan and I've said this many times. He says I'm a property rights guy and I believe

830
01:12:59,220 --> 01:13:06,380
that we should have a belief strongly in property rights, but we've got to make it a vehicle in

831
01:13:06,380 --> 01:13:11,120
it is sensible for somebody that owns

832
01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:16,180
agrelated property to move it this direction

833
01:13:16,180 --> 01:13:19,060
instead of selling it to the highest bidder for development.

834
01:13:19,480 --> 01:13:22,380
And so that's what I want people in the community to hear.

835
01:13:23,140 --> 01:13:26,640
And we do have a waiting list for these.

836
01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:29,440
The very people you're talking about.

837
01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:31,840
And the issue is there's not enough money.

838
01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:34,540
So they want to do it.

839
01:13:34,540 --> 01:13:38,100
Now, whether they have time to do it, it's another thing, but that's where this would

840
01:13:38,100 --> 01:13:38,740
come about.

841
01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:45,120
A good example of this year, because Haywood and Don and Mandi and a bunch went to

842
01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:50,020
Raleigh and some of us to support the state program.

843
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:57,980
Well, the legislators put $47 million, that's the most it's ever been in it, and we were actually

844
01:13:57,980 --> 01:14:03,080
able to fund a large parcel that had been wanting to do this, the family had been wanting

845
01:14:03,080 --> 01:14:08,320
do it for four or five years and they're able to and got accepted. So your point is exactly

846
01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:14,340
right. There's people that want to do it, but this can't do it for nothing. That's right.

847
01:14:14,360 --> 01:14:19,000
That's not fair to their kids or to the generation or it's constantly money to keep

848
01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:23,720
that farm. This is a way for them to do it. So you're exactly right, but I think with additional

849
01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:26,940
funded anywhere ever we can get it. We can make it helpful.

850
01:14:28,860 --> 01:14:34,660
That's a good point, you got to maintain the farm too, it tells, you know, I don't know what you mean.

851
01:14:34,860 --> 01:14:35,760
That's huge, you know?

852
01:14:36,380 --> 01:14:42,940
For the most part, the ones that we have been successful on this for over 30 years, almost

853
01:14:42,940 --> 01:14:44,600
all of them, it was in their heart.

854
01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:48,720
But what money they got was to be able to put it right back on the farm and keep it there.

855
01:14:48,900 --> 01:14:53,280
So I mean, it's not something they're banking and going to Geneva for a vacation.

856
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:58,400
Yeah, that's true, that's true. Yeah, you got to be able to do that.

857
01:14:59,360 --> 01:14:59,980
I guess back with...

858
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:04,100
Question is, how soon can we go ahead and adopt this?

859
01:15:04,860 --> 01:15:08,300
We're going to adopt this at the next meeting. I think.

860
01:15:08,740 --> 01:15:10,200
I mean, I'm talking about a bigger program.

861
01:15:10,220 --> 01:15:16,400
Oh, I know. I know. I'm ready to move forward with a little baby staff here and take some

862
01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:19,560
strides later. But this route here is good. This is a good start.

863
01:15:20,540 --> 01:15:24,180
I'm sorry. That was the purpose of having the draft on there

864
01:15:24,180 --> 01:15:28,320
for feedback. If you're happy with the draft, we'll put it on the agenda

865
01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:34,280
for the 17th and in this version and I've looked it over and I think I'm going to

866
01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:41,780
want it for job and I mean you guys see a problem with this I didn't see it but

867
01:15:41,780 --> 01:15:47,020
well the rollback began due I won so if we vote on it next week with the rollback

868
01:15:47,020 --> 01:15:52,900
again would it be effective due I won this year that would be the intent that we could

869
01:15:52,900 --> 01:15:59,780
So once the audit's complete, get that in January, February, we'll know the exact dollar

870
01:15:59,780 --> 01:16:04,600
amount and the board can appropriate it then, yeah, that's what can, but it will become

871
01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:09,700
law when you become effective when you vote it on it.

872
01:16:14,780 --> 01:16:17,060
So we'll go vote on it, it's the next meeting.

873
01:16:17,620 --> 01:16:24,960
I don't have a plan, but one thing is that strong in this, you know, there's safety and

874
01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:30,140
to you to counselors and there's enough people involved with this that can sit at the table

875
01:16:30,140 --> 01:16:37,340
and make this run. It's way it's worthy. So in water, the commissioners, Martha's

876
01:16:37,340 --> 01:16:42,660
driven other people and there's enough players here to make this work.

877
01:16:48,660 --> 01:16:56,360
So I guess the main time you can be researching possible next staff as far as doing the big

878
01:16:56,360 --> 01:17:02,420
left, which is part of the tax sales tax, what we might, we'll start working on, so maybe we

879
01:17:02,420 --> 01:17:10,880
have something like an October November to report back on a plan for something to be included

880
01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:11,360
in the budget.

881
01:17:12,180 --> 01:17:19,080
Because this is a big left, so it's going to take, of course, everybody's, we're always in

882
01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:27,280
But I just see what's happening out there, you know, and we need to ring that in as much as, you know,

883
01:17:27,320 --> 01:17:35,160
since we can, and being able to have this organized and where we're headed, we'll definitely give

884
01:17:35,160 --> 01:17:38,360
property owners a chance to respond.

885
01:17:39,100 --> 01:17:44,640
And just the reports that will go out today, probably there'll be some feedback that we'll get.

886
01:17:48,700 --> 01:17:51,540
Mr. Chairman, just a quick thank you, you guys.

887
01:17:51,700 --> 01:17:57,140
I know Duane and Bill both spent countless hours on putting all this together and working

888
01:17:57,140 --> 01:18:02,680
on this and many trips and I just want to say thank you, you know, again this is something

889
01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:08,320
I feel like that's definitely needed and I support it on 100% so thank you guys.

890
01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:09,420
Thank you.

891
01:18:09,580 --> 01:18:14,100
Well I can say it's thank you, this is a, I'm an old man to be able to see this actually

892
01:18:14,100 --> 01:18:16,420
come to the past, it's just a huge thing.

893
01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:20,820
You've supported it all along, and now you've gone to one

894
01:18:20,820 --> 01:18:23,720
except out to a camp from bottom of my heart,

895
01:18:23,740 --> 01:18:24,880
thank you for what you're doing.

896
01:18:25,800 --> 01:18:29,360
You know, let me have Bill, I've admired you for years

897
01:18:29,360 --> 01:18:31,300
in these efforts, conservation efforts.

898
01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:34,220
And Bill's the kind of guy that just just driving

899
01:18:34,220 --> 01:18:36,640
down the road, and you saw him fall out of his truck,

900
01:18:37,960 --> 01:18:41,520
and jump on somebody, and just hand over fast,

901
01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:43,980
and fought in somebody in the ditch.

902
01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:46,780
Oh, something like, yes, he's come down to you.

903
01:18:46,980 --> 01:18:47,660
He wouldn't inquisitive.

904
01:18:47,880 --> 01:18:50,320
You'd just pull over and jump in and aren't helping.

905
01:18:51,700 --> 01:18:52,000
That's all.

906
01:18:53,540 --> 01:18:57,200
I appreciate how your efforts be on these items.

907
01:18:57,760 --> 01:19:00,520
And Mr. Smart and Farm Bureau and everybody else,

908
01:19:02,720 --> 01:19:06,160
it's a ten and board member here that's a chair

909
01:19:06,160 --> 01:19:10,520
of the planning board, everybody that's involved with this.

910
01:19:10,520 --> 01:19:12,800
You know, it's good to see.

911
01:19:14,540 --> 01:19:15,780
She's on the wings of the planet.

912
01:19:15,900 --> 01:19:17,020
Why is we're playing a role?

913
01:19:17,480 --> 01:19:17,640
Yeah.

914
01:19:19,560 --> 01:19:20,880
Okay, thank you guys.

915
01:19:23,520 --> 01:19:25,880
Okay, next will be the Hewitt recycling

916
01:19:25,880 --> 01:19:27,520
in solid waste every day.

917
01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:29,760
Solid waste director, Zandra, Harkendall,

918
01:19:29,960 --> 01:19:31,560
in the administrative assistant of recycling

919
01:19:31,560 --> 01:19:33,860
and solid waste, semi-toe recycling.

920
01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:35,000
Okay, welcome.

921
01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:47,960
Good morning.

922
01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:52,460
We are here to do our recycling update

923
01:19:52,460 --> 01:19:59,840
for Haywood County and also just a general overview of what's going on with recycling.

924
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:01,640
We

925
01:20:03,850 --> 01:20:18,610
did go and find some articles from 1993-1994 when our facility was built under the guys that we would need recycling in the county.

926
01:20:18,610 --> 01:20:28,470
So, thirty two-ish years in the making we've done this, and our commitment has not wavered.

927
01:20:29,230 --> 01:20:35,830
We didn't actually have a recycling coordinator officially until, physically, your 2019 when I took over that position.

928
01:20:36,710 --> 01:20:39,650
So, we're really looking forward to that.

929
01:20:39,650 --> 01:20:43,730
And if you want to read the articles, we do have those available for you.

930
01:20:44,630 --> 01:20:56,490
And I had joked the last time I was here that we had just gotten our recycling numbers from the state and I had joked that I was reaching for number one.

931
01:20:56,610 --> 01:21:09,870
We were number six in physically or 24. We got our numbers last week and in all of that we with our outreach and everything that we have done.

932
01:21:09,870 --> 01:21:14,070
and I do want to shout out to Dwayne before he leaves or if he's already left. Conservation

933
01:21:14,070 --> 01:21:21,270
field days we do participate in that. So it's a great program for them. Those are the

934
01:21:21,270 --> 01:21:27,230
just the different outreach events that we have done in the past.

935
01:21:30,230 --> 01:21:32,610
So we got those numbers.

936
01:21:33,470 --> 01:21:46,690
And we hit number one in because clear 25 to my surprise was shooting for it wasn't quite ready for it, but thrilled that we got it.

937
01:21:48,010 --> 01:21:51,770
But number one isn't the end of it.

938
01:21:52,230 --> 01:21:57,210
We have a long way to go. We've really worked hard to get where we are.

939
01:21:57,210 --> 01:21:59,730
But it's going to take more of a community effort.

940
01:22:00,010 --> 01:22:01,570
Our residents have worked really hard.

941
01:22:02,190 --> 01:22:04,850
Our offices worked really hard to get there.

942
01:22:05,370 --> 01:22:06,590
But we're not giving up.

943
01:22:06,650 --> 01:22:08,290
We're going to try and maintain that.

944
01:22:08,510 --> 01:22:09,310
Things change.

945
01:22:09,530 --> 01:22:13,250
We've worked really to get out into the community

946
01:22:13,250 --> 01:22:15,310
to make sure that our message is seen.

947
01:22:15,910 --> 01:22:17,510
I did leave on your desk.

948
01:22:17,830 --> 01:22:20,270
Some of our outreach that we've been putting out

949
01:22:20,270 --> 01:22:24,450
are some magnets with our hooked logo.

950
01:22:24,450 --> 01:22:27,730
and also our recycle right.

951
01:22:27,890 --> 01:22:30,370
We've got some information on there as well.

952
01:22:31,130 --> 01:22:32,590
So those are different things

953
01:22:32,590 --> 01:22:34,070
that we're putting out in our community

954
01:22:34,070 --> 01:22:36,210
to make sure that we're seeing

955
01:22:36,210 --> 01:22:38,530
and that we are being consistent with our messaging

956
01:22:38,530 --> 01:22:39,910
for recycling.

957
01:22:41,610 --> 01:22:43,830
So going forward from that,

958
01:22:44,730 --> 01:22:48,290
we are going to talk about our operations in policy update.

959
01:22:48,910 --> 01:22:51,910
We have discussed this with our operators,

960
01:22:51,910 --> 01:22:59,590
our management company, CWS, and with our board, we've had a lot of going back and forth

961
01:22:59,590 --> 01:23:04,230
to make sure that we are doing what we need to be doing to make sure that our operations

962
01:23:05,670 --> 01:23:11,470
are moving in the right direction. So we're going to start with what's a Murf, a Murf is

963
01:23:11,470 --> 01:23:17,670
a materials recovery facility. That's where we take our recyclable materials and then we get

964
01:23:17,670 --> 01:23:24,630
ready to be processed into the next step. We receive all of the materials from our local households,

965
01:23:24,930 --> 01:23:30,050
our municipalities, and our businesses that bring in recycling material to that center,

966
01:23:30,510 --> 01:23:36,730
and then our management company transfers those to a larger facility to be processed.

967
01:23:38,570 --> 01:23:43,830
And what we're permitted for, we are permitted as a mixed waste processing, so that is all the recycling

968
01:23:43,830 --> 01:23:50,970
materials comes in mixed together. And then we get it ready to be sorted out from there.

969
01:23:54,180 --> 01:24:00,320
And what do we take? We take all sorts of household recycling, electronic scrap tires,

970
01:24:01,400 --> 01:24:07,700
batteries, fluorescent bulbs, any freeze, and our household hazardous waste by special event.

971
01:24:08,120 --> 01:24:15,640
We did have one of those this past Saturday. From 10 to 2, we had 62 residents come through

972
01:24:15,640 --> 01:24:23,200
And we're approximating that we took about 15,000 pounds of materials that had been on Saturday.

973
01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:28,640
So, not a bad turn-out for an event for us.

974
01:24:29,840 --> 01:24:30,340
And then, what?

975
01:24:31,620 --> 01:24:32,640
It's not showing.

976
01:24:33,400 --> 01:24:34,360
How do we fix that?

977
01:24:35,020 --> 01:24:36,740
So, why do we take it?

978
01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:39,920
We take it because there are landfill bands.

979
01:24:42,880 --> 01:24:45,720
And we want to be able to recover these materials.

980
01:24:46,440 --> 01:24:51,300
And the first and foremost for solid waste and recycling is protection of our county.

981
01:24:51,680 --> 01:24:53,380
It's an environmental issue.

982
01:24:53,820 --> 01:24:58,200
We want to make sure that we are preserving our lands.

983
01:24:58,340 --> 01:24:58,980
Hey, what county?

984
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:14,200
A few of the future generation as well. And since 1992, when our permit was issued, we have had in place these processes to separate materials that should not go into the landfill, because we want to preserve that landfill as well.

985
01:25:16,360 --> 01:25:28,140
And what we're trying to do today is re-establish that we do have a policy and our operating procedures, and to make sure that the materials, whether it be waste or recycling, goes to the property.

986
01:25:28,140 --> 01:25:33,420
facility, we do have our IRF, which is our maturist recovery facility, our white O'Gland

987
01:25:33,420 --> 01:25:36,720
Phil, and 10 convenient centers for the public to use.

988
01:25:40,290 --> 01:25:48,110
And what we're doing is trying to control what goes into our IRF to make sure that we are

989
01:25:48,110 --> 01:25:55,490
getting the correct materials in that facility for our residents and to direct the non-recycle

990
01:25:55,490 --> 01:26:00,790
materials to the proper facility, which would be why to claim bill. We want to strengthen

991
01:26:00,790 --> 01:26:07,090
our recycling efforts, number one's there, but we can always do better. And we also want

992
01:26:07,090 --> 01:26:12,450
to make sure that we are not putting additional wear and tear on our facility. It is a 30

993
01:26:12,450 --> 01:26:18,750
plus year old facility, and we want to make sure that it lasts for a good long time.

994
01:26:21,680 --> 01:26:22,320
And in order

995
01:26:22,320 --> 01:26:26,640
do that, we need to have a proper use of that facility, and we want to keep our

996
01:26:26,640 --> 01:26:30,560
nerve sustainable and compliant, because it is our nerve, it's our residents'

997
01:26:30,780 --> 01:26:35,480
nerve, it's for them to be able to bring their materials in and get it to where it

998
01:26:35,480 --> 01:26:36,580
needs to go.

999
01:26:37,500 --> 01:26:40,120
We want to minimize future rating creases.

1000
01:26:40,360 --> 01:26:42,680
We know that that's always going to be an issue.

1001
01:26:43,480 --> 01:26:44,780
We are protecting our taxpayers.

1002
01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:50,660
We want to extend the life of our facility, and to keep those materials that we are allowed

1003
01:26:50,660 --> 01:26:59,540
take out of our landfill and with consistent use of this facility and making sure that commercial

1004
01:26:59,540 --> 01:27:04,100
and holler collected waste is going to the appropriate facility, recycled, but materials

1005
01:27:04,100 --> 01:27:09,660
are going to the appropriate facility that we will stay compliant with our state permits.

1006
01:27:12,250 --> 01:27:15,270
And we are not creating a new requirement for this.

1007
01:27:15,590 --> 01:27:21,650
We are just re-establishing what procedures that we have making sure that our public knows

1008
01:27:21,650 --> 01:27:25,710
that these operating procedures and policies exist,

1009
01:27:26,250 --> 01:27:31,890
so that we can move forward and make sure that we're doing everything correctly,

1010
01:27:32,690 --> 01:27:36,790
and then we will educate them on to make sure that they are doing everything correctly.

1011
01:27:38,610 --> 01:27:43,550
And then we do have some polar requirements listed at the bottom there.

1012
01:27:44,510 --> 01:27:48,550
So we'll go, sorry, we'll go to what those requirements are.

1013
01:27:48,550 --> 01:27:53,710
In our ordinance, we do have that they are registered with,

1014
01:27:54,330 --> 01:27:56,050
hey, we would kind of recycling and solid waste.

1015
01:27:56,670 --> 01:28:00,550
That is part of our ordinance that they're required to do that.

1016
01:28:01,310 --> 01:28:04,770
We are directing ways to the appropriate facility,

1017
01:28:05,430 --> 01:28:08,030
be it recycling for the mayor,

1018
01:28:08,370 --> 01:28:11,650
trash, suddenly, and fill residents

1019
01:28:11,650 --> 01:28:15,310
if they have bad waste and non-bad recyclables

1020
01:28:15,310 --> 01:28:16,930
that they would go to the convenience centers,

1021
01:28:16,930 --> 01:28:20,090
if they are not required to go into the other facility.

1022
01:28:21,010 --> 01:28:26,870
We want to make sure that they are following facility-use requirements and that we are

1023
01:28:26,870 --> 01:28:31,610
separating the recyclables, the recoverable materials, and the landfill ban materials

1024
01:28:31,610 --> 01:28:32,810
and handling them properly.

1025
01:28:35,650 --> 01:28:45,470
And for us to do that, we are working with our management company to direct these commercial and

1026
01:28:49,030 --> 01:28:56,930
We are going to have an notification to the hollers that are going to reestablish the property

1027
01:28:56,930 --> 01:29:00,470
or the policy and operating procedures.

1028
01:29:02,050 --> 01:29:04,350
There will be an annual registration requirement.

1029
01:29:04,770 --> 01:29:07,070
We've gotten away from that in the past.

1030
01:29:07,410 --> 01:29:13,570
We are bringing that back online to make sure that we are staying compliant with everything that we need to be doing.

1031
01:29:13,570 --> 01:29:20,630
and continue to accept those materials and make sure that the band materials are being handled properly.

1032
01:29:21,950 --> 01:29:29,570
And doing that, we have an October 1 rollout for this policy to take effect.

1033
01:29:29,570 --> 01:29:38,410
That gives us time between now and October 1 to bring those haulers in.

1034
01:29:38,410 --> 01:29:46,610
Make sure that they know what they're doing, getting the payment system in place and making

1035
01:29:46,610 --> 01:29:49,190
sure that we are all on the same page together.

1036
01:29:49,970 --> 01:29:55,350
We are requiring that registration to go into effect on January 1, but we will have

1037
01:29:55,350 --> 01:29:59,410
a workshop for all of the haulers on September 1st.

1038
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:15,980
At the Ag facility, so we're going to get everybody together, have that discussion, make sure that we are all consistent with our messaging on how things are going to be moving forward.

1039
01:30:17,420 --> 01:30:18,920
And if you'll have any questions.

1040
01:30:19,980 --> 01:30:22,960
So you know who your haulers are to contact pretty much.

1041
01:30:22,960 --> 01:30:36,060
We have a pretty good list going, CWS has a list that they've got, and in every time we see one pop up, we're writing it down to make sure that we've got a way to get hold of them.

1042
01:30:36,560 --> 01:30:37,140
Yeah, yeah.

1043
01:30:37,820 --> 01:30:40,780
On one of your graphs, you said we were number one.

1044
01:30:40,900 --> 01:30:41,500
We are.

1045
01:30:41,520 --> 01:30:42,480
That's in the state.

1046
01:30:42,480 --> 01:30:54,880
In the state out of a hundred counties, we are, for a physical year 25, so in physical year 24, we were number 6, we've been working really hard.

1047
01:30:55,140 --> 01:30:59,740
I joked that we were, I was shooting for number 1, I wasn't expecting to go say that.

1048
01:31:00,100 --> 01:31:01,980
Now we've got, now we've got to keep going.

1049
01:31:02,160 --> 01:31:03,000
We're going to be a goat.

1050
01:31:03,500 --> 01:31:03,980
That's what we're going to be.

1051
01:31:04,420 --> 01:31:04,860
That's right.

1052
01:31:05,340 --> 01:31:05,760
That's right.

1053
01:31:05,760 --> 01:31:05,920
That's right.

1054
01:31:06,640 --> 01:31:07,120
That's right.

1055
01:31:07,120 --> 01:31:07,400
Easy.

1056
01:31:07,900 --> 01:31:11,740
Now, you're seeing where we were at, and everybody knows me, and I was like a race.

1057
01:31:12,000 --> 01:31:16,100
I'm very competitive, and second, it's not good enough, I like to lead to race.

1058
01:31:16,700 --> 01:31:22,160
So, I think you've done an outstanding job in your whole staff, a group, and working on

1059
01:31:22,160 --> 01:31:24,400
me as I'm sure Commissioner Long will agree with that.

1060
01:31:24,400 --> 01:31:27,120
He sits on the solid waste committee with men.

1061
01:31:27,860 --> 01:31:32,380
Y'all is outstanding work, has put us in that position, and it's very much appreciated.

1062
01:31:32,780 --> 01:31:33,680
I know that.

1063
01:31:33,680 --> 01:31:38,900
I don't come easy and a lot of hard work went into it, so thank you.

1064
01:31:39,360 --> 01:32:00,440
I agreed, again, a big note taker and was just thinking about all of the positive things coming out of today, but you know, the work that you do really does project, protect the longevity of our landfiel and obviously the way our community looks and how we are able to handle trash and waste and I appreciate what you do.

1065
01:32:00,440 --> 01:32:03,840
It's much bigger than people realize when they, absolutely.

1066
01:32:03,840 --> 01:32:06,260
And congratulations on being a big one, yes.

1067
01:32:06,280 --> 01:32:07,920
Just have to work harder now.

1068
01:32:08,660 --> 01:32:10,740
You got a mind-tain that, and then I'll ask too,

1069
01:32:11,100 --> 01:32:13,680
you know, I've said this many times before,

1070
01:32:13,700 --> 01:32:15,940
what I've learned is a lot of our constituents

1071
01:32:15,940 --> 01:32:19,880
might not ever use a MAS, might not have to use

1072
01:32:19,880 --> 01:32:22,460
the shirts department, might not have to use a lot

1073
01:32:22,460 --> 01:32:26,100
of other services, but every one of us have trash.

1074
01:32:26,380 --> 01:32:27,620
And you have to get rid of it.

1075
01:32:28,220 --> 01:32:37,300
And I'll say there's something I'm proud of, and I may be all following my mileage, but I think it's every five miles, is that right that we have a convenience center?

1076
01:32:38,060 --> 01:32:39,440
They're within a row.

1077
01:32:40,600 --> 01:32:40,700
Yes.

1078
01:32:41,660 --> 01:32:42,960
Within a five mile radius, yes.

1079
01:32:43,020 --> 01:32:47,800
You know, and that's something I don't think I don't know of any other county that has that.

1080
01:32:48,140 --> 01:32:49,500
And we have that convenience.

1081
01:32:49,880 --> 01:32:53,260
It's a true convenience to ever take your trash and get rid of it.

1082
01:32:53,260 --> 01:32:59,060
And the reason we do this, we don't want to trash on a river buying, sort of spread out through our county.

1083
01:32:59,840 --> 01:33:03,680
So that's something else that I'm proud of, as well.

1084
01:33:03,880 --> 01:33:05,700
Mr. Long, I don't mind you don't, from a beginning.

1085
01:33:06,120 --> 01:33:12,500
Oh no, I appreciate Zondron and Yals work in this area.

1086
01:33:13,000 --> 01:33:19,320
And that's kind of one of my constituent concerns as you know, as a person was, and it takes everybody in the county.

1087
01:33:19,320 --> 01:33:22,200
There's a lot of people who were very conservation minded

1088
01:33:22,200 --> 01:33:24,880
and recycling is a top one or least.

1089
01:33:25,960 --> 01:33:27,600
We're continuing to be trying to get better

1090
01:33:27,600 --> 01:33:29,180
and that serves as a can.

1091
01:33:29,660 --> 01:33:32,120
Recycling is tough sometimes, as you know.

1092
01:33:33,140 --> 01:33:36,480
But we had a constituent that's very, very concerned

1093
01:33:36,480 --> 01:33:39,800
about the style of foam and she wanted to let us know

1094
01:33:39,800 --> 01:33:42,600
that down to the historic farmers market,

1095
01:33:42,620 --> 01:33:45,800
there's an individual that collects packaging

1096
01:33:45,800 --> 01:33:46,680
to our fellow.

1097
01:33:47,540 --> 01:33:50,240
Certainly not, you know, anything with food.

1098
01:33:50,280 --> 01:33:50,620
No.

1099
01:33:51,280 --> 01:33:51,360
Yeah.

1100
01:33:51,940 --> 01:33:52,660
Packaging from.

1101
01:33:53,220 --> 01:33:53,720
I know.

1102
01:33:54,900 --> 01:34:01,380
I know we're looking kind of maybe exploring, if we can provide that as a county, and we're always

1103
01:34:01,380 --> 01:34:02,900
looking to improve.

1104
01:34:03,760 --> 01:34:07,240
We did have discussions with our management company.

1105
01:34:07,560 --> 01:34:14,540
We are in process of seeing if we can figure out where, when, how, we can establish

1106
01:34:14,540 --> 01:34:15,420
Yes.

1107
01:34:15,640 --> 01:34:16,100
Great.

1108
01:34:17,820 --> 01:34:18,940
Thank you.

1109
01:34:18,940 --> 01:34:19,760
Thank you.

1110
01:34:20,240 --> 01:34:26,020
Now, the package in Styrofoam is that, is that like what your TV has around it and your

1111
01:34:26,020 --> 01:34:26,980
rights is?

1112
01:34:27,280 --> 01:34:27,500
Right.

1113
01:34:27,800 --> 01:34:32,000
Anything that's the very rigid phone that's going to go around a TV.

1114
01:34:32,020 --> 01:34:32,740
What about peanuts?

1115
01:34:33,480 --> 01:34:34,520
I mean, you know that.

1116
01:34:36,920 --> 01:34:37,160
Okay.

1117
01:34:37,340 --> 01:34:39,300
She said he'll take them if they're bad.

1118
01:34:40,680 --> 01:34:42,420
If historic form is marked as one.

1119
01:34:42,720 --> 01:34:42,760
Yeah.

1120
01:34:43,300 --> 01:34:45,780
He's set that up to do.

1121
01:34:45,780 --> 01:34:49,720
He's got another one in October and September at night.

1122
01:34:50,400 --> 01:34:51,320
No, November.

1123
01:34:51,580 --> 01:34:52,520
One is in November.

1124
01:34:52,760 --> 01:34:53,260
It's on us.

1125
01:34:53,640 --> 01:34:53,920
Yeah.

1126
01:34:54,400 --> 01:34:55,540
He comes there.

1127
01:34:55,780 --> 01:34:59,980
He set up on his own to go set up at the farmer's market in Wayne.

1128
01:35:00,860 --> 01:35:13,120
Through the end of the year he's doing every other month, after that is where we're stepping in to try and figure out how we can bring him in and make that.

1129
01:35:13,120 --> 01:35:15,160
How do we know he's there? Is that on your website?

1130
01:35:15,620 --> 01:35:18,400
We do put that on our social media.

1131
01:35:20,000 --> 01:35:28,700
She's been working on making sure that we've got really good information out with all of the community, all the towns.

1132
01:35:28,700 --> 01:35:34,800
we're trying to make sure that all the towns are included in our social media, and anything

1133
01:35:34,800 --> 01:35:38,100
like that that comes up we're trying to make sure that we get it out there.

1134
01:35:38,640 --> 01:35:42,160
Well, I'm glad he's doing that because Styrofoam is just, you know, you get it and you

1135
01:35:42,160 --> 01:35:44,940
put it in the trash and it takes up so much room and stuff.

1136
01:35:45,120 --> 01:35:46,220
So that's great.

1137
01:35:46,480 --> 01:35:52,260
And the other thing, I did want to mention, I'm going way back, but you know, Stephen King

1138
01:35:52,260 --> 01:35:58,680
really got our program going and he actually passed away in 2016 and he was at that

1139
01:35:58,680 --> 01:36:02,680
they're working when that happened. He just had a metamorphosis now, that's correct.

1140
01:36:02,980 --> 01:36:08,920
So I just want to give a shout out to him and for all his hard work and then I know David

1141
01:36:08,920 --> 01:36:14,740
Francis has really worked hard after Stephen and David and I think worked in Recycling.

1142
01:36:15,000 --> 01:36:15,800
He did.

1143
01:36:15,900 --> 01:36:22,140
Then you've done you've done me in the group, and stuff. So we need to clone you so we can

1144
01:36:22,760 --> 01:36:24,680
have, of course I think you've done a clone here.

1145
01:36:24,680 --> 01:36:26,600
I think that's pretty good.

1146
01:36:27,460 --> 01:36:37,020
Yeah, when I moved over to Solid Waste of Stephen in 2009, he was the one that really got that moving forward.

1147
01:36:37,580 --> 01:36:44,460
Yeah, I was talking to him one time, and he asked him, I said, you recycle all your trash, and he said, yeah.

1148
01:36:44,660 --> 01:36:49,340
I was like, every bit of it, yeah, and I was just, I never did get into that.

1149
01:36:49,340 --> 01:36:54,380
I mean, you know, how you did all that, but I guess you can't really pay attention.

1150
01:36:54,900 --> 01:36:56,900
Zero waste is very difficult.

1151
01:36:57,360 --> 01:37:01,620
It's really hard, especially when you don't have an outlet for some things.

1152
01:37:02,600 --> 01:37:09,800
And then you end up with like our concerns that is in and have a garage full that you really want to do with.

1153
01:37:10,220 --> 01:37:15,620
And unfortunately until we, we can get that, we'll get it going.

1154
01:37:15,920 --> 01:37:16,440
We'll get it going.

1155
01:37:16,440 --> 01:37:28,580
When the misplalities they have, you know, recycled, I mean my recycled being is not as big as my trash being and a lot times my trash being it before but my recycled being, you know, we're stuffing it and everything.

1156
01:37:29,060 --> 01:37:40,520
So the recycled bins are all 65 gallons. So that's a good size. Most trash bins are 95 gallons. We're trying to, we're trying to do better with that.

1157
01:37:40,520 --> 01:37:47,020
Maybe one that's in the house you should be three to one your recycling should be three times more than your trash

1158
01:37:47,020 --> 01:37:49,500
If you're it's getting the right material in there

1159
01:37:50,100 --> 01:37:55,560
But if you really pay attention you can you can recycle a lot and then or stuff we don't want what you have on your website

1160
01:37:55,560 --> 01:38:00,440
Absolutely you might just say those right quick while we've got everybody's a team our website

1161
01:38:00,440 --> 01:38:03,320
You know the stuff you don't want in a landfill

1162
01:38:03,320 --> 01:38:04,800
That we don't

1163
01:38:04,800 --> 01:38:06,820
So in the recycle rather, the recycling.

1164
01:38:06,820 --> 01:38:07,540
We recycle.

1165
01:38:08,160 --> 01:38:09,840
So in our household, we do bottles,

1166
01:38:10,080 --> 01:38:11,140
tubs, jugs, jars.

1167
01:38:11,620 --> 01:38:12,640
So those are our plastics.

1168
01:38:13,320 --> 01:38:14,600
And then we do our glass jars.

1169
01:38:14,900 --> 01:38:17,020
And then our aluminum cans and steel cans.

1170
01:38:17,520 --> 01:38:18,740
And then paper, cardboard.

1171
01:38:19,640 --> 01:38:24,580
And then we have the plastics.

1172
01:38:24,680 --> 01:38:27,480
Oh, our special recycling, our electronics.

1173
01:38:28,820 --> 01:38:32,160
Used motor oil, used antifreeze, white goods,

1174
01:38:32,300 --> 01:38:34,000
which are refrigerators, air conditioners,

1175
01:38:34,000 --> 01:38:41,040
anything that has free on, scrap tire and a few other things that were listed on our list.

1176
01:38:41,160 --> 01:38:46,560
What don't do you not want, like, if I'm in my trash bin, what do you not want, like?

1177
01:38:47,580 --> 01:38:54,400
I didn't realize the ticker tapes or whatever you call them off of a, you know, a receipt you get.

1178
01:38:55,400 --> 01:39:03,360
We don't want most receipts because it's a heat transfer paper and that chemical is not a good chemical to having a recycling.

1179
01:39:07,190 --> 01:39:16,270
We had a crash dummy, yeah, crash dummy came through this weekend in our recycling, which was

1180
01:39:16,270 --> 01:39:20,690
Yeah, absolutely, she's got a picture, it's great, she can show you all later.

1181
01:39:22,290 --> 01:39:30,190
But a lot of them all come for a crash dummy, like one of those, yeah, it was, it was interesting.

1182
01:39:30,570 --> 01:39:31,290
That was in the recycle.

1183
01:39:31,290 --> 01:39:36,270
it was it was it was it was a blue back collection area yeah we can't

1184
01:39:36,270 --> 01:39:39,310
recycling no fresh though nobody

1185
01:39:40,550 --> 01:39:46,110
right but a lot of the misconception is if it's plastic we take it there's a

1186
01:39:46,110 --> 01:39:50,470
lot of filmy plastic we don't take that we don't want in there a lot of the food

1187
01:39:50,470 --> 01:39:56,110
containers the clam shells we don't take those because as soon as you hit those

1188
01:39:56,110 --> 01:39:59,970
they're gonna crumble so that makes it really hard to do so a lot of people

1189
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:05,020
We want to put that in there because it is a number one plastic, but we're asking that those

1190
01:40:05,020 --> 01:40:11,660
stay out because it's going to create a mess and our processor won't take it.

1191
01:40:13,180 --> 01:40:18,940
And that's with our education, we're getting ready to ramp up August and September are

1192
01:40:18,940 --> 01:40:23,960
probably our busiest months for recycling education, getting out in the community, getting

1193
01:40:23,960 --> 01:40:30,120
into, we've got the fair coming up, we've got Labor Day Festival coming up.

1194
01:40:30,120 --> 01:40:31,680
The big number fast, but the bike parking in.

1195
01:40:31,680 --> 01:40:38,800
The bike park event will be there, pitch and river fest is coming up, and just some different

1196
01:40:38,800 --> 01:40:41,240
presentations that we've been asked to do.

1197
01:40:41,940 --> 01:40:42,720
So we're getting ready to die.

1198
01:40:42,720 --> 01:40:43,720
Yeah, it's for being there for you.

1199
01:40:44,160 --> 01:40:45,420
Getting really busy here.

1200
01:40:46,300 --> 01:40:46,480
Okay.

1201
01:40:47,720 --> 01:40:48,180
All right.

1202
01:40:48,500 --> 01:40:50,380
Anybody having this thing in there?

1203
01:40:50,760 --> 01:40:50,980
No.

1204
01:40:51,160 --> 01:40:51,380
Okay.

1205
01:40:51,940 --> 01:40:52,540
Well, thanks so much.

1206
01:40:52,540 --> 01:40:53,420
Keep it up a good one.

1207
01:40:53,760 --> 01:40:54,900
Keep us number one.

1208
01:40:55,380 --> 01:40:56,300
We'll be number one.

1209
01:40:57,080 --> 01:40:57,940
We made it there.

1210
01:40:58,000 --> 01:40:58,820
Now we've got a state there.

1211
01:40:58,840 --> 01:40:59,420
We've got a state there.

1212
01:40:59,420 --> 01:40:59,780
We've got a state there.

1213
01:41:00,480 --> 01:41:00,580
Yeah.

1214
01:41:01,140 --> 01:41:01,800
That's right.

1215
01:41:02,420 --> 01:41:02,880
Thank you.

1216
01:41:02,920 --> 01:41:04,020
Thank you.

1217
01:41:07,350 --> 01:41:07,650
Okay.

1218
01:41:08,190 --> 01:41:11,550
Under discussion or adjustment to the agenda,

1219
01:41:14,700 --> 01:41:15,740
Frankie, you want to.

1220
01:41:15,760 --> 01:41:20,900
So there was a couple of things in our packet that you were going to go ahead.

1221
01:41:21,080 --> 01:41:23,600
Were you going to address those?

1222
01:41:23,860 --> 01:41:25,580
She would just want me to admit to you.

1223
01:41:25,860 --> 01:41:26,180
No.

1224
01:41:26,180 --> 01:41:31,620
I found it out because I was just saying it and it's no problem really, I'm perfectly glad to admit.

1225
01:41:32,480 --> 01:41:34,160
I just want to say this.

1226
01:41:34,420 --> 01:41:38,520
I heard that you were the number one county attorney in the state.

1227
01:41:39,320 --> 01:41:41,220
I heard you went in a war for that.

1228
01:41:41,780 --> 01:41:46,760
So yeah, it was just like a participation ribbon in youth soccer.

1229
01:41:47,080 --> 01:41:51,700
You were there, you were on the field, you didn't score any points, but you participated.

1230
01:41:52,200 --> 01:41:53,940
And that's what I did is county attorney.

1231
01:41:53,940 --> 01:42:00,940
So the other county attorneys recognizing the shortage of a sense of humor among the other county attorneys.

1232
01:42:03,800 --> 01:42:08,880
I've received the county attorney of the board a couple of weeks ago.

1233
01:42:10,280 --> 01:42:11,200
That's another number.

1234
01:42:11,200 --> 01:42:11,960
That's a good number.

1235
01:42:11,960 --> 01:42:12,940
One of the county attorneys.

1236
01:42:13,920 --> 01:42:14,120
Okay.

1237
01:42:14,260 --> 01:42:14,480
Go ahead.

1238
01:42:14,580 --> 01:42:15,540
That's the good part.

1239
01:42:15,640 --> 01:42:21,740
The bad part was that the resolutions that you're considering today about the economic development

1240
01:42:21,740 --> 01:42:27,300
things. This is Willah Hill and Pizga Electric. You had your public hearing about it, the last meeting,

1241
01:42:27,780 --> 01:42:34,800
resolution was presented. You had all these pretty documents on it. In the process of transferring

1242
01:42:35,420 --> 01:42:41,120
economic development agreements from an older version to the current version, there was a number

1243
01:42:41,120 --> 01:42:50,440
of typographical and other errors made by me. So I have fixed them. And so the text of what I'm going

1244
01:42:50,440 --> 01:42:56,540
present for, that Hannah's going to present to you for, for those two resolutions is a corrected

1245
01:42:56,540 --> 01:43:03,600
version from what you have in your board packet, okay? But they are, however, now correct.

1246
01:43:04,640 --> 01:43:10,320
So before I let you sign something, I have got it fixed. Okay. Okay. So those will be on

1247
01:43:10,320 --> 01:43:16,820
our website. People can see that. Yes. Absolutely. They're not really, and I don't regard

1248
01:43:16,820 --> 01:43:22,180
them as material changes, but they are nipping and tucking some references, there's nipping

1249
01:43:22,180 --> 01:43:27,300
and tucking some senses moved around. Don't ever give an English major or a formary

1250
01:43:27,300 --> 01:43:33,020
in which an opportunity to proof-read your materials. So anyway, there you go.

1251
01:43:33,420 --> 01:43:37,900
So it's always given you right something to wait a little while and go back and read it.

1252
01:43:38,240 --> 01:43:43,040
Yes. And then we discovered who was this idiot who dressed in the first place and it

1253
01:43:43,040 --> 01:43:44,900
it turns out it was me.

1254
01:43:45,240 --> 01:43:46,280
I mean, I do an email.

1255
01:43:46,460 --> 01:43:48,020
It's like, I don't even wait a while for us in that

1256
01:43:48,020 --> 01:43:48,900
because I'm going to read through it.

1257
01:43:48,980 --> 01:43:50,900
Sure enough, there's always stuff is like,

1258
01:43:51,060 --> 01:43:52,160
oh no, I didn't see it.

1259
01:43:52,160 --> 01:43:54,820
So what you're saying is Frank was number one.

1260
01:43:56,380 --> 01:43:56,780
How are you?

1261
01:43:57,860 --> 01:43:58,300
It was.

1262
01:44:01,480 --> 01:44:04,640
It was really recognizing his historical efforts

1263
01:44:04,640 --> 01:44:06,320
rather than actually card efforts.

1264
01:44:06,960 --> 01:44:10,460
So you know, I will say that I saw Frank in action at a state

1265
01:44:10,460 --> 01:44:16,100
in CACC meeting. They tried to hem him up in the corner, but they slid right out. I mean,

1266
01:44:16,420 --> 01:44:21,460
he slid right out of that jam. He was in. And I guess maybe that's why they voted number one.

1267
01:44:22,020 --> 01:44:28,080
They recognize, they acknowledge that kind of talent. It's not much, but it's what I've got.

1268
01:44:28,640 --> 01:44:40,440
Well, when I'm making it in minutes, mistakes, that makes life a lot easier instead of trying to

1269
01:44:41,960 --> 01:44:46,700
Thank you for the opportunity to acknowledge that.

1270
01:44:46,880 --> 01:44:51,940
All right, so we will need a motion and a second to accept, replacing the published

1271
01:44:51,940 --> 01:44:56,760
resolutions in the regular agenda, items three and four with the modified versions provided

1272
01:44:56,760 --> 01:44:59,960
by the County Attorney Frank Queen.

1273
01:45:00,840 --> 01:45:10,820
Okay. Can I have a motion? There's motion by Terry. Is there a second? Okay. All those in favour say aye. Aye. Any one person? Okay.

1274
01:45:13,850 --> 01:45:25,170
Okay. So, we have three items on the consent agenda. Is anybody having any questions for those? I know Graham's here. He's got one on the consent. If you have any questions.

1275
01:45:28,030 --> 01:45:31,490
Okay. Here in that, I'll entertain a motion. We approve the consent agenda as presented.

1276
01:45:31,490 --> 01:45:35,070
to someone, sir, second.

1277
01:45:36,590 --> 01:45:37,930
Did you discussion it all?

1278
01:45:38,770 --> 01:45:40,370
I'll in favor say aye.

1279
01:45:40,490 --> 01:45:40,630
Aye.

1280
01:45:40,750 --> 01:45:41,470
Anyone opposed?

1281
01:45:41,950 --> 01:45:42,210
Okay.

1282
01:45:42,890 --> 01:45:42,970
Okay.

1283
01:45:43,090 --> 01:45:44,530
Next we'll move to our regular agenda.

1284
01:45:44,770 --> 01:45:47,830
We request approval of the Southwest North Carolina home.

1285
01:45:48,090 --> 01:45:50,210
The Southwestern North Carolina home consortium,

1286
01:45:50,450 --> 01:45:52,590
2025 home recommended projects.

1287
01:45:52,950 --> 01:45:55,190
And we have our Southwest Commission project.

1288
01:45:55,650 --> 01:45:57,890
Manager of housing, the nation here.

1289
01:45:58,190 --> 01:45:59,170
And thank you for waiting.

1290
01:45:59,170 --> 01:46:03,170
It seems like, you know, we knew it.

1291
01:46:04,230 --> 01:46:05,110
She's here.

1292
01:46:05,450 --> 01:46:05,850
Yeah.

1293
01:46:05,850 --> 01:46:06,330
That's right.

1294
01:46:07,530 --> 01:46:08,830
No, it's not the nail.

1295
01:46:09,130 --> 01:46:11,930
It's great to hear all the good stuff that's going on in Haywood County.

1296
01:46:12,570 --> 01:46:14,290
And it always entertain and too.

1297
01:46:14,990 --> 01:46:17,010
So you guys represent the seven counties.

1298
01:46:17,170 --> 01:46:19,530
So just tell them all the things we're number one in over there.

1299
01:46:19,990 --> 01:46:20,410
You know.

1300
01:46:22,070 --> 01:46:24,390
He just never know what I have for you today, Kim.

1301
01:46:24,790 --> 01:46:28,490
But thank y'all for having me.

1302
01:46:29,290 --> 01:46:39,170
I am here to present a couple projects that this board will be able to decide if they would like to approve for the southwestern and see home consortium.

1303
01:46:40,590 --> 01:46:47,950
Just as a brief introduction to the consortium, we are comprised of the seven most western counties in North Carolina and the towns within.

1304
01:46:47,950 --> 01:46:55,650
We were formed in 2020 in order to bring home funds, which is some hub funds into the rural

1305
01:46:55,650 --> 01:47:02,170
communities, providing grants to local governments, developers, nonprofits on a reimbursable

1306
01:47:02,170 --> 01:47:05,990
basis for affordable housing and affordable housing activities.

1307
01:47:07,830 --> 01:47:12,770
The Southwestern and Home Consortium Board did meet on July 1st to review the project

1308
01:47:12,770 --> 01:47:17,950
applications that we received and we did receive three this year. This is for our 2025

1309
01:47:17,950 --> 01:47:25,050
pot of money. Add of those three applications we do have two that we look to approve.

1310
01:47:26,390 --> 01:47:31,670
The third application, it wasn't recommended just because they're not quite there yet, but it

1311
01:47:31,670 --> 01:47:38,550
is a project that we may look at approving down the road. The two projects that we are looking for approval

1312
01:47:38,550 --> 01:47:42,090
for the first one is to Solstice Partners.

1313
01:47:43,370 --> 01:47:48,670
This would be in the amount of $477,000 that it would be for

1314
01:47:48,670 --> 01:47:53,650
new construction of rental units for low to moderate income households.

1315
01:47:54,250 --> 01:47:56,890
They're looking to construct 60 of those in Jackson County.

1316
01:47:57,630 --> 01:48:03,570
This award would be contingent upon them getting their low income housing tax credit grant

1317
01:48:03,570 --> 01:48:05,870
through the North Carolina Housing Finance Agency.

1318
01:48:05,870 --> 01:48:11,610
So, if they did not receive that, then these funds, of course, would not be committed to that project.

1319
01:48:13,330 --> 01:48:18,230
The second award that we are looking to approve is to force where community action.

1320
01:48:18,830 --> 01:48:23,690
They are a nonprofit that covers Cherokee, Clay, Graham, and Swain County.

1321
01:48:24,630 --> 01:48:27,050
We are looking to award them $40,000.

1322
01:48:27,830 --> 01:48:32,410
This would be for security and utility deposits in conjunction with their section eight programs,

1323
01:48:32,410 --> 01:48:37,190
so help in folks have those upfront funds in order to get into that unit.

1324
01:48:38,370 --> 01:48:40,430
We specifically were looking at this project.

1325
01:48:41,130 --> 01:48:45,270
They're currently administering one very similar to this, so this would just supplement

1326
01:48:45,270 --> 01:48:47,790
the funding that they already have received from us.

1327
01:48:47,990 --> 01:48:52,130
But the key note there is that these funds would then be able to be used in Cherokee County

1328
01:48:52,130 --> 01:48:52,750
as well.

1329
01:48:53,050 --> 01:48:58,150
The current pot of money they have, Cherokee County is not eligible for due to the timing

1330
01:48:58,150 --> 01:49:02,010
of when they joined the consortium that they would be eligible for this pot of money now.

1331
01:49:02,010 --> 01:49:04,190
and also it helps supplement some stuff there.

1332
01:49:05,510 --> 01:49:07,790
So with that, I'll take any questions you may have

1333
01:49:07,790 --> 01:49:11,750
and look for a vote on that.

1334
01:49:12,450 --> 01:49:15,610
I'm glad to see Cherokee County's now participating in this.

1335
01:49:15,610 --> 01:49:17,450
So I'm not sure what their issue was,

1336
01:49:17,510 --> 01:49:21,630
but I'm glad to see that they are actually getting a little bit.

1337
01:49:22,570 --> 01:49:23,610
So, you might have any questions?

1338
01:49:24,450 --> 01:49:26,410
No, just to comment, I'm glad that she's coming

1339
01:49:26,410 --> 01:49:28,950
and about how entertaining our meetings are.

1340
01:49:28,950 --> 01:49:34,890
for all the rat raisins, I'm sure she's got all the way out to the waist and back, she's probably

1341
01:49:34,890 --> 01:49:39,030
experienced to be things that she didn't get to experience here and that's a good thing, I guess.

1342
01:49:44,160 --> 01:49:44,280
All right.

1343
01:49:45,340 --> 01:49:46,140
Anybody anything?

1344
01:49:47,820 --> 01:49:48,140
Okay.

1345
01:49:48,300 --> 01:49:50,520
Motion to approve Adam one of the regular agenda.

1346
01:49:50,680 --> 01:49:52,860
Like a motion to approve Adam one of the regular agenda.

1347
01:49:53,100 --> 01:49:53,320
Mr. Chair.

1348
01:49:53,760 --> 01:49:54,200
All right, sir.

1349
01:49:55,280 --> 01:49:55,920
Any minute discussion?

1350
01:49:56,920 --> 01:49:58,120
All those the papers say aye?

1351
01:49:58,900 --> 01:49:58,920
Aye.

1352
01:49:58,920 --> 01:49:59,200
Okay.

1353
01:49:59,200 --> 01:49:59,680
I see them.

1354
01:49:59,680 --> 01:49:59,980
when it...

1355
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:04,020
You made it, you did it. I'll say, number one for this.

1356
01:50:04,320 --> 01:50:08,320
Just tell me. No, number one, number one. I want to thank you. Thank you very much.

1357
01:50:10,680 --> 01:50:17,920
Okay, the next item is to request approval of a settlement of collections 2025-26 tax collector, Greg West.

1358
01:50:18,520 --> 01:50:19,100
Welcome, Greg.

1359
01:50:22,280 --> 01:50:26,780
Good morning, commissioners. I trust everyone still and well.

1360
01:50:26,780 --> 01:50:33,960
Mr. Chairman, I'm here to request approval of the setup of collections for 2,025 through

1361
01:50:33,960 --> 01:50:34,860
26.

1362
01:50:36,080 --> 01:50:43,360
I, Gregory W. West, Tax Collector of Haywood County, swear the attached report is an

1363
01:50:43,360 --> 01:50:49,340
accurate statement of taxes collected on behalf of Haywood County and on behalf of the 25

1364
01:50:49,340 --> 01:50:56,200
fire districts, 10 road districts, one sanitation district, and the county landfill.

1365
01:50:59,720 --> 01:51:09,500
This past year, 2526, our net levy was 51 million, 214,385 dollars.

1366
01:51:10,300 --> 01:51:20,620
We collected $50,210,613 dollars for a collection rate of 98.04%.

1367
01:51:20,620 --> 01:51:32,700
We had a remaining balance on collect. It was $1 million, 3,771 dollars. So, $98.04 percent was our collection

1368
01:51:32,700 --> 01:51:37,840
rate for this past year. I'll be glad to answer any questions or.

1369
01:51:39,080 --> 01:51:45,020
I'll just sound glad you're back in there, Greg, and I know you're working hard to keep that.

1370
01:51:45,280 --> 01:51:46,600
Well, where it needs to be.

1371
01:51:46,600 --> 01:51:52,720
I appreciate that, and to speak shout out to the staff, they worked really hard these last few months as well.

1372
01:51:53,640 --> 01:52:04,180
And we're still collecting, I mean, in July, we've collected 125,000 of taxes that didn't count toward the 98%.

1373
01:52:05,240 --> 01:52:08,080
So we're still out there collecting that.

1374
01:52:08,080 --> 01:52:10,600
So next week, we'll see you.

1375
01:52:10,600 --> 01:52:12,560
It's a good thing.

1376
01:52:15,140 --> 01:52:17,640
Anybody got any questions for Greg?

1377
01:52:18,900 --> 01:52:19,020
Okay.

1378
01:52:20,000 --> 01:52:25,760
So we need a motion to approve Adam II.

1379
01:52:26,460 --> 01:52:27,180
I mean, I'm sorry.

1380
01:52:27,880 --> 01:52:27,900
Yeah.

1381
01:52:28,700 --> 01:52:30,100
Adam II of the regular agenda.

1382
01:52:30,700 --> 01:52:33,360
Make a motion to approve Adam II, Mr. Chairman.

1383
01:52:33,860 --> 01:52:33,920
Okay.

1384
01:52:33,920 --> 01:52:34,740
Just add them on the collections.

1385
01:52:35,420 --> 01:52:35,980
That's for any.

1386
01:52:36,680 --> 01:52:36,880
Second.

1387
01:52:37,620 --> 01:52:37,880
Okay.

1388
01:52:38,360 --> 01:52:40,120
Any discussion or anything?

1389
01:52:40,600 --> 01:52:41,780
All those of you who say aye?

1390
01:52:44,000 --> 01:52:45,200
Thank you.

1391
01:52:45,200 --> 01:52:45,700
Thank you.

1392
01:52:45,800 --> 01:52:46,880
Appreciate you.

1393
01:52:48,810 --> 01:52:48,910
Okay.

1394
01:52:49,130 --> 01:52:53,610
Item number three of the regular agenda is to request approval of a resolution authorizing

1395
01:52:53,610 --> 01:52:58,030
economic development agreement with PISCA electric services to approve conveyance of

1396
01:52:58,030 --> 01:53:04,130
a track of land, all for you know, farmer and community and economic development or director and a white.

1397
01:53:04,470 --> 01:53:04,970
Welcome, Hannah.

1398
01:53:06,330 --> 01:53:07,690
Thanks for having me.

1399
01:53:07,950 --> 01:53:12,510
So yeah, this is just the resolution we had the public hearing last meeting.

1400
01:53:12,510 --> 01:53:19,630
So this is the resolution to convey the real property to PISCA services.

1401
01:53:20,870 --> 01:53:24,690
As we remember, the general statutes, lays out several findings.

1402
01:53:25,150 --> 01:53:34,170
They have to meet, for instance, does the tax, the local tax revenue is greater than this as value.

1403
01:53:35,030 --> 01:53:37,490
And then on the business side, they're improving the property,

1404
01:53:37,490 --> 01:53:42,850
the providing the jobs, where the wages are of the county's average wage,

1405
01:53:46,850 --> 01:53:47,710
and then next

1406
01:53:47,710 --> 01:53:52,470
will be the economic development agreement with the business, and I will have all the

1407
01:53:52,470 --> 01:53:59,370
callback and that agreement to make sure that the businesses are hitting those landmarks.

1408
01:53:59,990 --> 01:54:00,270
Okay.

1409
01:54:00,530 --> 01:54:01,390
Very good.

1410
01:54:01,390 --> 01:54:03,630
So anybody any questions about that?

1411
01:54:04,530 --> 01:54:08,810
No questions, but I have to speak in a county manager.

1412
01:54:09,650 --> 01:54:11,110
I have to excuse me in the county attorney.

1413
01:54:12,110 --> 01:54:15,770
I have something to accuse myself from this particular vote,

1414
01:54:15,790 --> 01:54:17,110
just because it does that.

1415
01:54:17,170 --> 01:54:20,850
Could I have a possible financial impact in my personal business?

1416
01:54:22,270 --> 01:54:25,650
The company here that will be vote-known.

1417
01:54:25,910 --> 01:54:29,750
I do business, they do business with me, and I have a fleet account.

1418
01:54:29,750 --> 01:54:32,970
say that, so under it vise, so the attorney

1419
01:54:32,970 --> 01:54:35,010
I probably need to recuse and I'll say I'll say I'll say.

1420
01:54:36,830 --> 01:54:37,390
OK.

1421
01:54:37,390 --> 01:54:39,350
OK, so can we have a motion there?

1422
01:54:39,990 --> 01:54:40,590
Is there a motion?

1423
01:54:40,730 --> 01:54:41,650
Make a motion there.

1424
01:54:41,830 --> 01:54:43,450
Approved item three.

1425
01:54:44,350 --> 01:54:46,790
Economic development agreement with PSG electrical services.

1426
01:54:47,690 --> 01:54:48,570
OK, all right.

1427
01:54:49,190 --> 01:54:53,310
So all those that they were saying, OK, that's it.

1428
01:54:53,310 --> 01:54:58,590
Four row with Brandon recuse and himself or abstaining.

1429
01:54:58,590 --> 01:54:59,970
so Adam number

1430
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:05,900
4 is the request approval of resolution authorizing economic development agreement with Willow's

1431
01:55:05,900 --> 01:55:11,640
heel soap company to approve the conveyance of a property of great oak drive.

1432
01:55:12,580 --> 01:55:15,220
So that's the other one we had to be meeting about.

1433
01:55:15,700 --> 01:55:22,460
It is and Willow Hill also meets all those threshold markers as well and Ben McDowell the

1434
01:55:22,460 --> 01:55:26,420
owner Willow Hill is actually here with us today and that's that through this entertaining

1435
01:55:26,420 --> 01:55:26,960
meeting.

1436
01:55:26,960 --> 01:55:32,480
when it out. Thanks for staying appreciate it. He's like this is a boringist

1437
01:55:32,480 --> 01:55:32,740
money.

1438
01:55:35,160 --> 01:55:39,560
Okay, you can have a motion to approve that. So before we do that, just

1439
01:55:39,560 --> 01:55:44,440
another question for the attorney I didn't ask him about this one, but B&B is a

1440
01:55:44,440 --> 01:55:49,980
customer of mine as well. His business don't have a fleet account say the shit I

1441
01:55:49,980 --> 01:55:52,140
I could use my sail from the last one.

1442
01:55:56,200 --> 01:55:57,520
Ammonie's family, too.

1443
01:55:57,740 --> 01:56:02,880
It was free from my shop, but doing business with you

1444
01:56:04,620 --> 01:56:13,180
is not related to this expansion or sail from of County

1445
01:56:13,180 --> 01:56:15,220
property to them for their economic development.

1446
01:56:15,600 --> 01:56:16,920
Because it's too attenuated.

1447
01:56:17,200 --> 01:56:18,740
It's too distant.

1448
01:56:19,780 --> 01:56:25,390
The statute requires a direct financial impact,

1449
01:56:27,590 --> 01:56:32,270
a direct substantial financial impact before you can

1450
01:56:32,270 --> 01:56:36,030
recuse yourself. And in the situation here,

1451
01:56:36,630 --> 01:56:40,450
it's too attenuated. It's too distant between actions taken

1452
01:56:40,450 --> 01:56:43,210
by the county and the effect on that business.

1453
01:56:43,750 --> 01:56:46,710
What you're really saying is if their business gets better,

1454
01:56:48,190 --> 01:56:50,670
there may be their transactions with you will get better,

1455
01:56:50,830 --> 01:56:52,450
but that's it's too distant.

1456
01:56:52,970 --> 01:56:56,690
You're just one of them, but you're not a primary supplier to them.

1457
01:56:56,990 --> 01:57:02,290
You don't have what you call a flea account with them, they're just another customer.

1458
01:57:03,210 --> 01:57:08,530
That's not enough of a direct, substantial financial impact to allow you to refuse yourself.

1459
01:57:08,890 --> 01:57:10,050
You'll have to vote on the matter.

1460
01:57:10,510 --> 01:57:11,310
Thank you.

1461
01:57:11,590 --> 01:57:12,650
Can I add something?

1462
01:57:13,550 --> 01:57:18,750
I was not present at the last meeting, I was away on vacation, and I was talking to the chairman

1463
01:57:18,750 --> 01:57:19,190
earlier.

1464
01:57:19,190 --> 01:57:25,810
It's the first time I've ever missed a meeting for something personal like that, but we were out of town, but I did go back and watch the meeting.

1465
01:57:27,630 --> 01:57:35,630
And I was cheering from behind the screen to see small local businesses be able to expand in our community.

1466
01:57:35,630 --> 01:57:43,690
that we are many of us on a small business and I'm sure for all of us on a regular basis we're

1467
01:57:43,690 --> 01:57:49,630
a community of small businesses and it is it was very exciting for me to see these two projects

1468
01:57:49,630 --> 01:57:55,830
move forward. So I hate that I wasn't here to say that the first time you guys were present in

1469
01:57:55,830 --> 01:58:03,350
the courtroom but I'm very excited for this. Make the best way we're all excited and we're still

1470
01:58:05,190 --> 01:58:09,530
It's a good meeting, you know, to convene and see economic development and local businesses

1471
01:58:09,530 --> 01:58:16,790
expand and today we're moving one step further toward this tax rollback for the conservation

1472
01:58:16,790 --> 01:58:23,290
for formal and preservation and it's just another good meeting and seeing some goals,

1473
01:58:23,550 --> 01:58:26,930
finally achieved and that's great.

1474
01:58:29,020 --> 01:58:31,700
Would you like to make the motion, since you weren't here last time?

1475
01:58:31,700 --> 01:58:37,160
Absolutely. I make the motion that we let me make sure it request approval of the resolution authorizing

1476
01:58:37,160 --> 01:58:41,860
economic development agreement will help will a heel soap company. I make that motion.

1477
01:58:42,800 --> 01:58:48,620
Okay. I'm four. Here's our second. Okay. All those in favor say aye.

1478
01:58:48,860 --> 01:58:52,860
Aye. Okay. That's who that is. Thank you. Thank you. Hannah for all you're doing.

1479
01:58:55,350 --> 01:59:00,070
Okay. The next order of business will be appointments in the first is to request approval of a

1480
01:59:00,070 --> 01:59:06,150
the appointment of Jean Daley to a three-year term on the library board of trustees?

1481
01:59:09,070 --> 01:59:15,110
Yes, Jean does a, she's fabulous contributor to the board and I'm glad to see that she's

1482
01:59:15,110 --> 01:59:16,510
going to come back for another term.

1483
01:59:17,630 --> 01:59:18,570
You want to make a motion?

1484
01:59:18,830 --> 01:59:19,750
Yeah, I'll make that motion.

1485
01:59:20,530 --> 01:59:23,690
We're going to point her for another three years to the library board of trustees.

1486
01:59:24,430 --> 01:59:24,630
All right.

1487
01:59:24,950 --> 01:59:25,470
I'll second.

1488
01:59:25,870 --> 01:59:32,930
All in favor say, ah, ah, that's unanimous. Okay. Number two is to request approval of appointment

1489
01:59:32,930 --> 01:59:39,330
of Levi-colon as assistant tax collector. Taxer? Taxer? Taxer, sorry.

1490
01:59:42,230 --> 01:59:48,710
Got collections on my mind. You might take it. Yeah. Okay, so can I have a motion for item two?

1491
01:59:48,830 --> 01:59:55,110
I would like to make that motion to approve item two and also recognize Levi's being here today

1492
01:59:55,110 --> 01:59:59,970
his parents and I guess, are you kidding?

1493
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:09,020
We're going forward to speak. Labour? No, he's not. Oh, he's warning. Yeah, then what we've got to give you all his families here. So he acted like he did.

1494
02:00:09,200 --> 02:00:13,500
I think I could take away his headshaker, mayor. We need to approve this.

1495
02:00:13,680 --> 02:00:18,060
So I might get much because there's sex. Thank you. Okay, all in favour of say aye.

1496
02:00:18,620 --> 02:00:27,820
Now it's official. Okay. Now you can do your thing there, Sherry. Sherry is going to do the assistant tax assessors with a office.

1497
02:00:27,820 --> 02:00:29,940
And congratulations, Levi.

1498
02:00:30,260 --> 02:00:30,540
I'm sorry.

1499
02:00:30,540 --> 02:00:31,060
I can't do it.

1500
02:00:34,020 --> 02:00:35,360
Maybe right here, Levi.

1501
02:00:35,640 --> 02:00:36,120
So thank you.

1502
02:00:36,780 --> 02:00:38,600
Levi, would you like to introduce your family?

1503
02:00:42,290 --> 02:00:43,590
This is my wife, Rebecca.

1504
02:00:45,310 --> 02:00:47,810
And my daughter, Levi, right back here, Olivia.

1505
02:00:48,630 --> 02:00:50,950
And then my parents, Greg and Jean.

1506
02:00:52,670 --> 02:00:54,750
I like that bow in your hair.

1507
02:00:55,130 --> 02:00:55,770
Was that flower?

1508
02:00:56,270 --> 02:00:56,330
Yeah.

1509
02:00:57,550 --> 02:00:57,730
Yeah.

1510
02:00:57,950 --> 02:00:59,650
And my plane club back here.

1511
02:01:02,570 --> 02:01:07,270
But I'll say before you start that as well, I've known Levi for quite some time.

1512
02:01:07,630 --> 02:01:11,810
He's probably about this big when I first become the know Levi.

1513
02:01:12,530 --> 02:01:19,670
His dad Greg and Gene served as a pastor at East Ford when I was on the, they can board up fire.

1514
02:01:20,210 --> 02:01:27,650
So I've known this family real well to see him grow up into the young man that he is today is exciting and honored to be here today.

1515
02:01:27,650 --> 02:01:30,910
So congratulations on what you're getting ready to accomplish here.

1516
02:01:31,050 --> 02:01:31,690
Thank you.

1517
02:01:50,900 --> 02:01:51,420
Uh-huh.

1518
02:01:51,420 --> 02:01:53,040
Uh-huh.

1519
02:01:53,120 --> 02:01:53,220
Uh-huh.

1520
02:01:53,220 --> 02:01:58,540
Do solemnly and sincerely swear that I will support and maintain the Constitution laws

1521
02:01:58,540 --> 02:02:05,160
of the United States and the Constitution laws of North Carolina not inconsistent therewith

1522
02:02:05,160 --> 02:02:11,000
and that will favorably distort the duties of my office as assistant, tax, assessor of

1523
02:02:11,000 --> 02:02:18,160
would county and that I will not allow my actions as assistant tax assessor to be influenced

1524
02:02:18,160 --> 02:02:23,300
by personal or political friendships or obligations so help me God.

1525
02:02:37,020 --> 02:02:37,440
Very good.

1526
02:02:40,370 --> 02:02:44,070
Okay, that concludes the business before the board is about to have anything else I'd like

1527
02:02:44,070 --> 02:02:44,830
to add.

1528
02:02:46,050 --> 02:02:50,710
I would like to recognize all our county department heads that we're here again today, it's

1529
02:02:50,710 --> 02:02:57,790
refreshing to see these folks come out and I'm not picking on the library but the

1530
02:02:57,790 --> 02:03:00,870
libraries are very well represented here regularly and I appreciate my

1531
02:03:00,870 --> 02:03:05,390
foster being here again so appreciate everybody.

1532
02:03:08,360 --> 02:03:10,020
So motion to adjourn.

1533
02:03:10,240 --> 02:03:11,080
I'll make it motion.

1534
02:03:12,940 --> 02:03:12,980
Okay.

1535
02:03:12,980 --> 02:03:14,080
All in favor say aye.

1536
02:03:14,720 --> 02:03:14,960
Okay.