[0:05] Welcome to December 9th, 2025 city council meeting. Roll call, please. [0:08] » Mayor Webb >> here. [0:10] » Mayor Pro Washington >> here. [0:12] » Council member Londo >> here. [0:14] » Council member Sullivan, >> she is ill and excused. [0:17] » Council member Liro, >> he is ill and excused. He was in the [0:21] building and we were have a quorum. So we released him to go home to conale. [0:28] » Okay. The approval of the revised agenda, please [0:32] » move approval of the agenda is revised. >> Second. [0:37] » Any dension discussion? [0:42] » We have a special visitor from North Pole. [0:45] » We have a special visitor from the North Pole. [0:52] » I hear the bells. [0:57] Does it? >> It does. [1:00] » Oh, hey Santa. >> It's Santa Claus. [1:03] » What's up, Santa? [1:10] » How are you doing, sir? >> Love the suit. [1:13] » I uh got a little bit of a reprieve from the North Pole to be here, so I [1:16] appreciate your your kindness. >> I love it. Uh want to apologize that I [1:20] was a little late on the tree lighting ceremony. may forgot to make the left [1:24] turn at Albuquerque, but you know, we'll get that all straightened out next year. [1:28] So, just wanted to say hello. Thank you again for having me back again this year [1:32] in the city. Um, let you know what's going on the next couple days. Um, [1:37] Friday, I'm having dinner with the the fire department and enjoying some time [1:41] with them and some fellowship with them. And then Saturday is a very busy day for [1:46] me. Uh, starting off at 9:00 a.m. at the rec center, we're going to have the [1:52] parade stopping by. How many schools do we do? Do you know? [1:56] » Uh, we have the map downstairs. I thought it was 10, but if you're telling [1:59] me nine, my chief of police, I will let him know. He's here. And we will let the [2:03] fire department know as well. And we will do 9:00 if that's good for you. [2:07] » It is 9:00 because I'm at the museum at 10:00. [2:10] » All right. >> So, from 10 to 1 at the museum. So, all [2:12] right. And that 10:00 start time is flexible depending on how many children [2:17] that I visit with at the schools. And then following that, I'll be at the rec [2:22] center for lunch with Santa. All right. >> I think that's the rest of the events [2:27] for this year except for the 24th when I'll be flying [2:32] in to deliver presents. >> Well, Santa, we just want to thank you [2:36] for spending so much of your time. We know that you're dealing with boys and [2:40] girls all over the world who want presents and we're just so pleased that [2:44] you've been able to spend so much time with us here in Little Hazel Park. And [2:49] uh we hope that all the kids come out to visit you on Saturday at the parade. We [2:54] will be posting the route on Facebook and the website starting tomorrow. [2:59] » All right, sounds good. Thanks again for having me, Santa. [3:02] » We'll see you soon. See you next Santa. >> Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas. [3:11] » And that takes us down to the civic announcements. [3:17] » Anyone have any civic announcements? Ed, [3:21] » I do not have any civic announcement other than to uh remind folks that the [3:25] Santa parade will be now starting at 9:00. Thank you, Santa, for clarifying [3:29] that. And uh he'll be making his way from the rec center down to Hoover uh [3:34] high school across I can't remember the entire route but we will have it. He [3:38] will go to Ford school. He will go to Webster and then he will find his way [3:42] back at the >> historical museum and he will be [3:46] escorted by our police officers and firefighters. [3:51] » All right. Well, thank you sir. And that closes civic announcements. [3:55] Public discussion. I got uh someone here at Philadelphia slip, William and [3:59] Katherine Dresby. [4:04] » Can you come to the microphone, please, sir? [4:06] » I just need your name and address for record. [4:15] » Okay. [4:19] » Thank you. [4:22] » Thank you, Andrea. What was your address again? [4:27] » Uh, good evening. Uh, William Dre. My wife Katherine is here with me. Uh, 429 [4:32] West Garfield. Um, bought 1997. So, I've been there 28 [4:38] years, longer than all all the other places combined. [4:42] Um, this this will take just five minutes. I want to speak about the uh [4:46] code enforcement or lack thereof in my case. [4:51] um in October 2023, so 26 months ago, I went to code enforcement and with a set [4:57] of pictures of what the neighbor was doing. You might actually all be [5:01] familiar with this neighbor at 4 437 right next door to me um who's been [5:07] cited for, you know, the holes in the garage roof and the raccoons and the [5:12] rats and storing of the garbage and whatnot. [5:16] Um anyway, so this is my view outside my kitchen window. Has been for years. Um [5:24] and so if you let me follow along here. [5:29] Um anyway, uh page two, picture A shows her [5:37] her fence corner um where it turns the corner goes behind her house. Both of [5:42] both myself and her are in agreement that the fence is completely hers. We [5:45] everyone knows we know where the property line is. Um [5:49] she has and just perusing through the Hazel Park uh codes [5:55] uh limiting residential fence heights at 6 ft. She has a 4ft chain link fence. up [6:02] against that. She's tipped seven just under seven foot tall dogeared [6:07] uh fence panels salvaged from another site that are non-conforming for height [6:13] reasons as well as the paint and stain and you know repair issues. Uh she [6:20] supplemented that with rows of 2x4 by 8 ft studs with tarps attached to them and [6:28] the tarps get shredded. They hang over the fence. They flap in the wind, all [6:33] kinds of stuff. Um, so, and this goes the entire rear yard [6:38] property, uh, all the way. Uh, moving on to page four, she's got two junk cars on [6:44] the property, no license, no license plates, uh, you know, broken windows, [6:50] duct tape, all that kind of stuff. Um, I I I don't call her my neighbor. She's [6:58] the homeowner. The bounty hunter that came looking for her daughter a couple [7:01] years ago says that she owns a house in Detroit and Royal Oak. So, and so she [7:06] doesn't live there. She comes around once a week, mow the grass, shovel to [7:09] the lawn or shovel the sidewalks and collect her mail and then takes off [7:14] again. Um, the last picture on page five is what the other side yard used to look [7:21] like until that neighbor complained against her. That side's been fixed. Uh [7:26] when I was here in October 2023, I went to code enforcement and I I I failed to [7:32] get his card. I've got Ryan Anderson's card, but I think he was a person before [7:36] that. The person I spoke to was uh Caucasian male, 6'4, 6'5, heavily built [7:43] uh sitting in the small room off to the left [7:46] » uh when you're when you're at the counter. So it was his office. So I [7:50] don't recall his name. He was interested enough to come out that same day. looked [7:54] around, told me he he had already cited her for the same issue and ordered her [7:59] to tear down all this stuff. She only tore down the other sideyard and [8:04] apparently when they came by to check, they saw that the other the sideyard [8:08] where you can actually see up the driveway was cleared. My side never was. [8:13] » So repeated attempts to, you know, get this fixed have gone on deaf ears. So, [8:20] uh, I'm a military combat veteran, 100% disabled. Uh, I'm a retired [8:26] architectural engineer and, um, [8:31] » Mr. Clobisher. >> Yeah, we'll take a look at this. [8:34] Obviously, uh, >> and see what's going on. [8:36] » Jump in the chain of command. >> Our, uh, our code enforcement supervisor [8:41] is not here tonight, so we'll find out in staff meeting tomorrow and, uh, we'll [8:45] have an update. Is this >> is this your contact information? [8:49] » It is up there. Okay, I'll speak with them. We'll try to get you an update to [8:53] see where this is. There may be tickets in progress already. [8:57] » Remember, we've got this pesky thing called the Constitution and [9:00] » All right. >> We've got, you know, due process and all [9:03] those things. So, I'll find out where they are because apparently they've [9:06] already taken action on this and this may be something as you said that he [9:09] went by and looked and it looked like from what he could see everything was [9:14] cleaned up. if that's the side that the driveway is on and he may not be able to [9:18] see your side. So, we may be able to may need your yard to access this so we can [9:22] take uh the appropriate action and they may think that it's resolved but [9:26] apparently and these text these pictures were taken today I think or [9:31] » some of them were yes >> and so this is clearly not resolved. So, [9:35] we'll get on it first thing tomorrow morning and I'll have somebody call you [9:38] and give you an update. Thank you. Okay. >> Have a good night. [9:42] » Thank you. >> Thank you. You have a good night as [9:44] well. Sorry, you have to And you're saying the house is unoccupied? [9:47] » Most of the time it is. >> Okay. Very good. [9:49] » Y >> Thank you. [9:50] » Thank you for coming. >> Yep. I'm sorry you have to look at that. [9:53] » Thank you. >> Any more public discussion from anyone [9:58] in the audience? [10:02] Closing public discussion. Consent agenda item seven. Did you guys [10:07] want to talk? >> Yeah. If as soon as there's a a a motion [10:10] » motion to bring it up, >> move approval of the consent agenda [10:13] items one through nine. Uh and pulling item seven. [10:16] » No, you can leave it on there, but just uh we'll have him come up and talk about [10:19] it before we cast the vote. >> Support [10:23] » support and pulling item seven for discussion. [10:28] » Yep. >> So, uh where is Dusty? Do you want to [10:32] bring the contractor up? Dusty Barber from DPW is here. She's taken over point [10:37] on the uh poleb barn construction process and she has the uh contractor [10:44] here that has the bid that we are recommending that you approve today and [10:48] uh he would like to introduce himself and his company and speak for a short [10:52] little bit about what's going to happen over there. [10:55] » Yep. Thank you. I wanted to introduce James Robinson. He's with Elite [10:59] Contracting. He's the one that we're awarding the bid to for the poleb bar. [11:04] » Fantastic Dusty. Thank you for all your hard work. James, you want to say a [11:07] couple words about uh your company and what your expectations are for this [11:10] project? >> Yep. Um so my name is James Robinson. I [11:14] am the owner of Metrole Contracting. Um and I'm looking forward to working with [11:19] the city of Hazel Park on this project um to renovate the pole barn. um [11:24] basically creating a new meeting space. Well, an additional meeting space tying [11:29] into the existing um community space that's there. Um right now it's just [11:35] essentially just a shell storage space. Um so this is going to be a complete [11:39] interior renovation with all new finishes on the walls. Um new bathroom [11:44] facilities. Um there's going to be like a new um ticket type area um that has a [11:51] rollup door and concession. Yep. concessions. Um there's going to be a [11:55] new awning um that's put on on the exterior and then there is going to be a [11:59] connection between the two buildings. So there'll be a new hallway between the [12:03] two buildings um that have passed through. Um so we're really excited [12:07] about this project. Um this is pretty much within our wheelhouse. This is what [12:11] we do projects of this size and complexity. So we're really looking [12:15] forward to it >> and we're looking forward to working [12:17] with you as well. And uh after they vote yes on this, this contract will be [12:21] approved and we can get this process started. [12:24] » When do you intend to be done? >> Um so it's set for September. The end of [12:29] September is when everything has to be complete, but we don't think it'll take [12:33] » to the grants. >> Okay. [12:37] » Well, thank you. >> Nice to meet you. Thank you. We're [12:39] looking forward to working with you on this project. And Dusty, thank you for [12:42] all your hard work on this. >> Thank you. [12:45] » Thank you. [12:49] I have the motion. I have a support. Uh any dension? [12:55] » No sir. >> Discussion anymore? No. [12:58] » Nope. >> Motion passes. [13:01] » Congratulations. >> Yes. [13:04] » Uh Minister of Reports, Title 8, Health and Safety, Chapter 8.28, Vehicle [13:09] Storage. Second reading. >> Mr. Mayor, this is the second reading of [13:12] an ordinance. James uh Fininkley briefed you on this uh at the last meeting. The [13:16] administration is requesting approval on second reading. Please [13:20] » move approval of an ordinance to amend the Hazel Park Municipal Code Title 8 [13:25] Health and Safety Chapter 8.28 vehicle storage. [13:29] » Second, >> any discussion? [13:32] » Uh discussion. I'd just like to uh say thank you to James and all of the staff [13:37] uh who worked on this. Um a lot of these ordinances are housekeeping. Uh, but [13:43] that doesn't mean that there's not a ton of leg work that goes into researching [13:47] these, updating them, and making sure they're compliant with local code as [13:50] well as state law. So, just wanted to say thank you for getting these updates [13:54] in front of us uh so we can modernize our code. [13:58] » Yes. >> Okay. [14:01] Uh, anyone boards, commissions? Seeing no one old business, none. New business, [14:07] anybody? uh just looking forward to uh [14:11] reintroducing citizen and business of the month at our January [14:15] » January meeting >> city council [14:17] » and again I am glad that uh you brought that up uh council member because uh [14:23] we're going to bring that back. I don't know if we had that when you started. I [14:27] think that was something that was a thing in the '9s and the 80s and how it [14:33] worked then and you guys can structure it how you want it, but it rotated from [14:38] month to month and each member of council was responsible for picking a [14:43] citizen of the month and a business of the month. And we would recognize those [14:48] individuals here at uh city council meeting and we get a chance to talk [14:53] about why they were chosen. if they were a a resident or a a citizen of the [14:59] month, it was usually because they had a long record of community service and [15:02] volunteer activities and service to the community and business because uh they [15:07] did something outstanding in the community and did something noteworthy. [15:12] So, uh Luke wanted to became he became aware of this program and uh he [15:17] approached me about bringing it back. So, usually we would start with the the [15:21] mayor and uh then the mayor prom and uh for February and then since it [15:28] was Luke's idea, Luke in March and uh we can begin to uh recognize some amazing [15:36] » citizens that we have and some amazing businesses. And uh this goes way back [15:41] to, you know, when uh someone I know very well was on city council back in [15:45] the late 80s and early 90s. So, and it was very successful. And there are still [15:50] some businesses that have those certificates on the wall, you know, 30 [15:56] plus years later. >> Yeah. [15:59] » Yep. >> Okay. [16:00] » Anything else? >> No, sir. [16:02] » Uh, takes us to communications from department heads. Anybody? [16:06] » Tim, we know you have all this information about your trucks cruising [16:09] around town digging holes in people's yards. [16:12] » Oh, yes. Oh, yeah. That's the uh that's part of our uh state uh revolving fund [16:18] pro project. Uh what we're doing is identifying the 2,000 plus unknown uh [16:24] water service lines uh homes. So we're trying to determine who may still have a [16:29] lead service line or a copper service line within the city. And that's step [16:33] one of the process. And then step two, which will start after uh the the [16:38] holidays, we'll be starting to replace all these uh that we have identified. So [16:44] hopefully within a couple of years, we'll be able to say our city is [16:47] completely lead free and uh it will be quite an accomplishment. [16:53] Um what I came up here to say tonight is uh most of you know we had a I had a a [16:58] family health crisis. I had to step away from my job for a short time to take [17:02] care of my wife. Uh, so I just came to thank everybody for their support. I [17:07] wanted to give a special thanks to Dusty Barber, who you just seen up here a [17:12] minute ago. Uh, Nolan Twimman and Dylan Rogers, our foremans for our crews. [17:18] Maddie Brown, our DPW secretary, Tory Duval, and Julian um, [17:25] uh, for city hall water sewer department. Uh they did a fabulous job [17:30] at keeping the department running uh making sure that nothing was left behind [17:35] or unsaid. A special thanks also to Mr. Ed Clobacher. He and I were in contact [17:40] daily uh giving me encouragement and uh letting me know the city's uh the city's [17:46] sound with what we're doing. So so thank you to everybody. I really appreciate [17:50] it. Tim, we're just so happy that your family got great news from that health [17:56] challenge and she's doing well. And uh I kept council fully informed. They always [18:02] every one of them was uh inquiring uh about her and wishing her well as was [18:07] everybody else in city hall. And it's wonderful when we get a great result and [18:12] somebody is uh on the road to uh >> a long and healthy recovery and a long [18:18] life. So it's fantastic. >> All right. So everybody have a merry [18:21] Christmas, happy new year and thank you. >> Thank you Tim. [18:24] » Happy holidays. >> Yellow department heads [18:28] » chief. [18:33] » Hi. Uh I just wanted to uh remind the residents that uh with the holiday [18:40] season, make sure you keep your doors locked. Uh make sure those gifts are put [18:45] away. Um, also uh be attentive with uh your packages that are being delivered. [18:52] U make sure there's someone there to uh get those packages off the porches so [18:57] they don't end up stolen. Uh also um if you would also be mindful that there are [19:05] a lot of scams out there involving um where people are trying to get personal [19:09] information, especially this time of year. They're going to use uh um schemes [19:15] of trying to get that information, claiming that uh your card is being used [19:20] or asking if you're authorizing it and then they're going to try and uh obtain [19:24] personal information from you. Um, so my advice is, uh, if you get these phone [19:31] calls, um, be mindful that it could be, um, a prank call, uh, where they're [19:38] using, uh, say your Chase Bank information or Chase Bank phone number [19:42] will be popping up on your phone or they'll you'll receive a text from Chase [19:46] Bank saying your credit's being compromised. Uh, my advice is not to [19:52] react to that particular phone call. I would hang up and then contact uh a [19:57] known phone number of your bank or creditors uh to verify if that's any [20:03] type of uh problem that is existing. So that on that note, I just wanted to wish [20:09] everyone a merry Christmas and happy holidays. [20:14] » Thanks, Chief. Thank you. >> Thanks, Chief. [20:16] » City Manager. >> Yeah, absolutely. First, I want to echo [20:20] what Melissa Schwarz said uh about uh you know what a great year that it's [20:25] been and uh we're looking forward to uh an even better year next year. [20:32] I have fantastic uh department heads and employees in this city. They work very [20:37] hard for the residents and they really uh take their duties to heart and try to [20:42] do a good job all the time. And so I want to take this opportunity to to [20:47] thank them. I want to wish everyone uh a very merry Christmas, a happy new [20:54] year, happy Hanukkah uh many holidays that I've missed and been unable to [20:59] think of at this time. Happy holidays and uh wish everybody a safe and [21:05] prosperous new year. I did miss something under uh new business. I'm [21:11] going to request you guys uh confirm my appointment of uh interim recreation [21:17] director Amanda Taylor to become recreation director for the city of [21:21] Hazel Park. >> So moved. [21:24] » Second. >> Any discussion discussion? She's already [21:28] doing a job. >> Right. [21:28] » That's right. >> She's doing a great job. [21:30] » I know. It's uh >> So we never seen our record run this [21:33] good in years. >> Yeah. It's uh it really uh [21:37] » toddlers are doing a lot over there. It may be uh the most recreation [21:42] programming we've had ever. >> So, uh a big thank you to uh Amanda and [21:50] uh >> great program. [21:50] » We'll make that appointment permanent, probably the first of the year, but I [21:54] wanted your approval because that's required under the ordinance. And uh I'm [21:58] glad that uh you uh all see this the same way that I do, and I'm so proud of [22:03] what she's been able to accomplish over there. Uh Michigan system of municipal [22:08] finance remains funly fundamentally broken, but uh we had discussions with a [22:13] couple legislators uh yesterday and we have some other discussions with some [22:18] other legislators next week and uh there are a lot of things happening in Lancing [22:23] and there are some things in in Lancing that were threatening to us which I [22:26] think we are going to be able to uh avert and then there are other uh pieces [22:32] of legislation that will be favorable to us to help us redevelop up things and [22:37] maybe begin the process of fixing that completely broken system of municipal [22:42] finance and property tax taxation. It's funny when we we had this great article [22:47] that the free press came out and talked about Hazel Park on and and people were [22:51] posting about the tax situation and we're going to have to I think I'm going [22:54] to have to teach tax law again like I used to when we had town meetings and [22:59] things like that so that everybody understands how this all works and how [23:03] properties uncap when you buy them and the interaction between Headley and Prop [23:08] A. And someone posted on the thread and they said, "Yeah, the city will love it [23:13] when I sell my house because my tax is going to go way up." Well, I have to [23:17] explain this to you. There comes the interaction with the Headley amendment [23:21] » and while your taxes double, the city's net increase in revenue from that [23:26] doubling is zero because then the Headley amendment kicks in and we have [23:30] to put that into our Headley roll back calculation. So, it's a very broken [23:36] system of municipal finance. Doesn't mean anything to my bottom line whether [23:40] you sell your house or not, but it means a great deal to the next purchaser who's [23:44] paying double and we're not as a city seeing any of their increase. So [23:49] hopefully >> the county and state get a big chunk of [23:51] that. >> No, they will they get but they don't [23:53] get anything of the increase either because they've got you know the only [23:56] one that gets the increase is uh education. So the other ones they're [24:00] capped by the same thing we are. So they're all capped actually because [24:06] you know it goes in the roll back but it doesn't go in the roll back for the 18 [24:09] mills for education that always stays the same. [24:12] » So but the other ones they all it it it works across the board. So hopefully the [24:17] legislature there are things they can do with the enabling language that do not [24:20] require a constitutional amendment that could fix a lot of that. So I'm hopeful [24:24] that those things will happen and uh I want to explain that a lot of this is [24:29] state law. That's not policy that this city council here, your elected local [24:34] leaders have made. These are constitutional amendments that were [24:36] voted on by the voters across the state of Michigan and then enabling language [24:40] passed by the legislature. So with that said, again, happy holidays and thank [24:46] you mayor and council for uh your support for me and for my team. I [24:51] appreciate you all. >> Thank you. [24:54] » You londo. Uh, I'd like to thank my colleagues on [24:58] the deis for another wonderful year as well as my award-winning city manager [25:02] and deputy city manager. Uh, as well as all of the phenomenal dedicated staff. [25:07] Uh, my job is super easy because of the staff that we have in place. So, just [25:10] want to say thank you for making all of us up here once again look good. Uh, [25:14] merry Christmas, happy Quanza, happy Hanukkah, happy Saturnelia, happy winter [25:19] solstice, and happy New Year's. Uh, pretty sure I didn't miss any. [25:22] » You didn't miss any. Thank you. Uh the holidays are a wonderful time to uh [25:27] spend time in fellowship uh with your friends as well as your family. But the [25:30] holidays can also be a very lonely time for a lot of people. So please uh check [25:34] in on your neighbors, check in on your friends, and if you or anybody you know [25:38] uh is enduring a mental health crisis, uh please dial 988. Uh there are [25:43] Christmas tree tags uh on the tree downstairs. Uh there are still some [25:48] families in need around the holidays. Uh I was a Christmas tree tag kid. Uh so [25:53] you know it really is a program that can really uh change uh what Christmas means [25:58] to a lot of the families in the community. So uh please go take a tag uh [26:03] that there will be a list of items that you can purchase for uh for the [26:06] individuals on it. Uh please return it unwrapped. Very important unwrapped uh [26:11] by December 18th. But uh we've had a great reception so far. So uh very [26:15] excited that we've been able to add some names as well as extend the program a [26:19] little bit. Uh and finally uh to my friend Court who turns 70 uh next [26:26] Monday. May your birthday be full of bliss. [26:29] » Mr. Mayor, >> thank you. [26:30] » That is an amazing suit. Councilman, I just have to uh compliment you on your [26:35] Christmas spirit. >> Appreciate it. [26:37] » He's always festive. >> I know. [26:40] May >> um hello uh fresh from Dallas Fort Worth [26:46] airport. I thank you council and the city manager [26:51] here for waiting for me even though I got here on time. Um but I just want to [26:56] say that and share that in my travels this weekend I ran into a couple people [27:00] that were familiar with Hazel Park and they had nothing but good things to say [27:04] and they recognized that the city is going through some changes that are very [27:09] positive. Um that was what they've said. Um, I think that it's always been a good [27:13] city as long as I've lived here, but I'm glad that other people are starting to [27:17] recognize the beauty of Hazel Park. So, um, there's that. Very festive, Luke. [27:23] Yes, I got my reindeer earrings to match you. So, [27:28] » um, also, um, yes, happy holidays. Happy belated [27:33] birthday to my mother. Um, she turned 72 last Tuesday, so I just wanted to shout [27:40] her out really quick. Um, can't wait to go home and see her because I came here [27:43] before I even made it back to my house. Um, and yeah, happy new year to [27:49] everyone. I look forward to what the new year will bring us. Um, I think that we [27:56] are in for some good things next year. All right, Mayor Mike. [28:04] » Well, I'd like to thank Santa for showing up. Anybody else? So, but it was [28:09] nice. It's nice every year to see have Santa come out and share the uh festive [28:13] festivities with the uh people. We also had a great treeing ceremony. [28:17] » We had probably the biggest turnout ever at our tree lighting back just before [28:21] Thanksgiving. And I want to say thank you to the staff for putting that on and [28:26] doing a wonderful job and everybody that's involved with keeping our [28:30] day-to-day services moving. We have a lot going on every day here [28:36] and we are short staffed a little bit and they the staff seems to pick up the [28:42] little edges of shortness here and there and make a difference when they can. Um [28:48] I kind of I think we all kind of put a little bit of demand on our [28:52] administration and staff sometimes but uh they do a good job and I want to [28:56] thank them for stepping up and keeping the ball rolling. fire department, [29:01] police department, DPW, clerks, everybody. Water department, the whole [29:06] bit. I mean, we've all we all got say all everybody's got separate jobs. And I [29:11] think this makes a difference how we go forward and make our city better. And I [29:17] get like she just said, everybody thinks the city's doing better. It is doing [29:20] better. We've been we changed the way we look at things and how we approach [29:24] things the last seven, eight years. And it's nice to see that we've made those [29:29] differences. And I'm hoping that we can continue this drive and move forward. We [29:34] got some road repairs and sidewalk repairs we're hoping to do. Uh make it a [29:38] little better, a little nicer within the neighborhoods so we don't have to hit [29:42] the bump so hard. So we got a few things we're looking at doing right now. And uh [29:47] there's a lot of different different ways we can make things work and having [29:50] the rec center that extra room over there is going to make a big difference. [29:54] That was all grant money just to let everybody know. So, but I want to say [29:58] thank you again. Have happy holidays, merry Christmas, [30:02] New Year's everybody. And uh motion to adjurnn. [30:10] » Motion to adjurnn. I move to adjourn the meeting. [30:12] » Only two of you. >> All right. Thanks. [30:15] » You can't escape. You either must move or support.