1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:14,160 I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic 2 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:20,360 for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and 3 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:20,360 justice for all. [clears throat] 4 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:30,320 Let's pray for prayer. Heavenly Father, please help us at this 5 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:37,280 meeting. Um, do do what our residents need us to 6 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:41,920 do. Um, thank we're thankful that none of those 7 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:46,879 major storms the last few days hit us. Please look out for all our men and 8 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:52,960 women overseas protecting our great nation. In Jesus Christ's name we pray. 9 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:56,385 Amen. Amen. Reading of approval. [clears throat] 10 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:07,920 Motion to approve and suspend reading. >> Sorry. Second. All in favor say I. 11 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:11,640 » I. Approval of the agenda. 12 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:17,240 We have a couple additions of business. 13 00:01:26,320 --> 00:01:31,479 Casey second. 14 00:01:31,700 --> 00:01:36,799 [clears throat] >> All in favor say I. 15 00:01:34,479 --> 00:01:42,479 » I motion approved. All right. Engineers 16 00:01:39,759 --> 00:01:47,960 report. didn't sound like there was a whole lot 17 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:47,960 on the engineers report. 18 00:01:55,040 --> 00:02:04,479 » CC Steel is going to come around again. >> Yeah, they still got those punch list 19 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:10,160 items from the 24 sewer project. We'll be finishing those and then as far as I 20 00:02:07,439 --> 00:02:15,640 know pag has a couple other patches that go along with that 21 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,640 as well 22 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,760 right 23 00:02:31,961 --> 00:02:38,560 [clears throat] the commander post 189 and 24 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:44,319 the reason we're here tonight, we've got an individual from the area to donate a 25 00:02:42,640 --> 00:02:48,080 substantial amount of money for a monument for the military. 26 00:02:46,640 --> 00:02:52,000 And the reason I'm here is we're going to need your input where we could 27 00:02:49,599 --> 00:02:55,680 probably put it in Hazen. This is just in the planning stage, but 28 00:02:53,920 --> 00:03:00,000 I thought I'd let you let you people know. Then we can get together and 29 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:02,480 figure out where this might take a year. We don't know how long it's going to 30 00:03:00,959 --> 00:03:06,400 take, but I think it's we're going to get it started and I thought I'd let 31 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:10,159 people know about that. Appreciate your help. 32 00:03:08,319 --> 00:03:13,480 » Thank you. >> Great. Thanks, 33 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:30,080 » Mr. Thank you for having us here as a back up. 34 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:35,120 funding has been accumulated. They're hoping as they put this thing together, 35 00:03:32,640 --> 00:03:40,082 they don't have to invest in the land place it on 36 00:03:37,519 --> 00:03:44,040 the city for maybe [cough and clears throat] just ideas 37 00:03:44,159 --> 00:03:52,959 west of the water plant something like that parks I I don't know if the money 38 00:03:49,599 --> 00:04:00,879 is available and we just soon take that money and put towards the 39 00:03:56,319 --> 00:04:05,760 we want this to be an all veterans Don't want to exclude any veterans 40 00:04:03,439 --> 00:04:09,319 include national guard even today's 41 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:18,727 looking forward to working with the city. 42 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:20,747 We'd like to place a pyramid [clears throat] 43 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:27,280 with the county. They got a wall down there something 44 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:32,560 different. Any 45 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:38,400 questions or concerns? >> I was just curious there stuff, 46 00:04:35,759 --> 00:04:43,680 you know, I guess, you know, I guess like sizewise, I guess. What are you 47 00:04:40,639 --> 00:04:52,160 looking for? >> Capital lot or a city lot 48 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:55,199 that could be dedicated to the veterans. I don't know what you're going to do 49 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:58,083 with water treatment plant. Maybe need some [laughter] 50 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:17,400 All from the region. Okay. Moving on. Local permits. Buffalo 51 00:05:13,919 --> 00:05:17,400 Valley Archers 52 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:29,919 submitted an application for a [clears throat] calendar permit. for the 53 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:34,479 Buffalo Buffalo Valley Archery Range. Uh drawings would be held March 1st through 54 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:37,800 March 31st of 2027 55 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:44,199 to raise funds for the range improvements and use programs. 56 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:57,919 Those are the dates, >> correct? 57 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:59,199 Are those the dates are drawing? >> Yes. No. 58 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:03,584 » Yes. >> Every day in March. 59 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,584 » Okay. [clears throat] 60 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:08,440 » Motion to approve. 61 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:14,120 » Second. We got a motion and second. 62 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:23,759 All in favor say I. >> I. 63 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:30,384 approved local permit as a school. I did not 64 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:34,759 receive their actual permit so I don't [clears throat] can take any action on 65 00:06:31,759 --> 00:06:34,759 that 66 00:06:36,479 --> 00:06:44,840 transit merchant applicant. I am not going to even attempt to put out 67 00:06:54,639 --> 00:07:03,960 completed an application for transit permit. She works for the same company, 68 00:06:59,919 --> 00:07:03,960 Southwest Advertising. 69 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:14,240 She's [clears throat] had students approved to do doortodoor sales in the 70 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:23,039 She's aware of the $25 fee per day, but is asking us to wave the fee or or 71 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:27,479 reduce it. um citing that it goes to support her education. 72 00:07:33,599 --> 00:07:36,599 » No, 73 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:46,759 couldn't remember. How long is she going to be here? 74 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:46,759 Generally, it's a week or 10 days. 75 00:07:52,880 --> 00:08:03,120 I'd like to keep it the same when we start. 76 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:09,360 I know she's from other country, but yeah, I don't recall any any uh 77 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:12,840 discounts we'll call it in previous year either. So, 78 00:08:13,599 --> 00:08:19,599 the one thing I also see is it looks like 79 00:08:17,039 --> 00:08:24,240 the business and the person doing the sailings from out of state, they have a 80 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:30,800 state license. >> Yeah. But you know, maybe 81 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:33,800 consider more if they were local out of state. 82 00:08:37,839 --> 00:08:44,839 Make a motion that we approve it and leave the fee at $25. 83 00:08:45,680 --> 00:08:53,760 motion. Do we need to approve it? 84 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:57,440 » Do we need to approve it? >> We either need to vote it up or down. 85 00:08:56,451 --> 00:09:00,160 [clears throat] >> Since you have a motion, unless you 86 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:05,760 don't get a second. >> No. Um, 87 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:10,080 so we have to approve the permit itself. >> Yes. That's what I was asking. Not the 88 00:09:08,560 --> 00:09:14,136 fee type stuff. >> You don't have to approve the permit. 89 00:09:11,839 --> 00:09:16,959 It's still your decision on that, [clears throat] but 90 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:22,600 » it has to go through the commission. >> Yes. You have to approve transient 91 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:22,600 merchant licens. 92 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:33,640 » All in favor say I. >> I. 93 00:09:30,399 --> 00:09:33,640 » All opposed. 94 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:48,480 All right. Mr. Moss would like to apply for a building. 95 00:09:47,541 --> 00:09:52,600 [clears throat] Yes, there must be 96 00:09:54,746 --> 00:10:03,839 [clears throat] it will require a variance. Um, 97 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:07,839 this is the property in question here and it's 98 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:11,680 had previous variance, I'm assuming, or it was grandfathered in because it is 99 00:10:09,680 --> 00:10:18,982 real close to the property line. There is a fence separating these properties. 100 00:10:16,079 --> 00:10:23,120 Here, [clears throat] his intention is to 101 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:28,160 remove this and replace this. This is falling apart and isn't doing its job. 102 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:33,680 water is getting down into the foundation and it's starting to affect 103 00:10:30,959 --> 00:10:39,120 the surroundings here. His request is to build a lean to similar to this for a 104 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:49,200 larger portion of that south side of the house. So he would need a 5 and 1/2t 105 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:53,640 variance on the 7 and 1/2t set back. So he'd be 2 feet from the property. 106 00:10:56,240 --> 00:11:00,200 is here if you have questions. 107 00:11:04,399 --> 00:11:15,240 My understanding it would be here that the post was set on to support [cough] 108 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:15,240 the structure. 109 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:20,680 It's real close. 110 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:33,839 Will that fence move out or will that fence stay there? 111 00:11:29,680 --> 00:11:38,640 » Yeah, the fence will stay stay. >> I suppose that gap there's either two 112 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:41,760 and a half right your feet. >> Yeah, 113 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:43,680 » it'd be right up against the fence then. >> Pardon? 114 00:11:42,399 --> 00:11:46,880 » Be right up against the fence. >> No, I'd be probably about 115 00:11:45,443 --> 00:11:51,680 [clears throat] half to two feet from the fence. And then I planned on putting 116 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:58,079 a rain gutter along there to redirect the water. Um, a lot of runs between the 117 00:11:55,680 --> 00:12:02,480 garage and the house. And uh, yeah, I'm kind of up in the air 118 00:12:00,399 --> 00:12:08,560 about that. I should actually dig somewhere for it to run in and then pump 119 00:12:05,519 --> 00:12:13,920 it out and which may end up happening. But for now, I want to try uh the steps. 120 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:17,839 I don't know if they're solid concrete or not, but the rain gutters from that 121 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:21,360 little whatever you want to call it, roof over 122 00:12:19,680 --> 00:12:26,720 the door >> drains out right post 123 00:12:24,560 --> 00:12:33,600 and then the ground is open there and the steps it's pulling out of my block 124 00:12:29,680 --> 00:12:39,200 wall and pushing in on the bottom. And the only way I know to salvage is try to 125 00:12:36,399 --> 00:12:44,320 keep it dry and it shouldn't get any worse than it does. 126 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:50,519 Um I have kind of built some steps over it because they're lean so bad that 127 00:12:47,519 --> 00:12:50,519 Great. 128 00:12:53,279 --> 00:12:58,858 So then I guess a drainage wise. [snorts] 129 00:13:00,399 --> 00:13:07,120 Why is there stuff that's going to drain drain on the street? Then 130 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:11,760 » I would run it all into my backyard. There's rain on my garage that runs 131 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:16,480 » and I could drain it right into my backyard. 132 00:13:14,079 --> 00:13:22,079 The majority of it, you know, between the fence and stuff. There's concrete up 133 00:13:19,519 --> 00:13:26,800 to about this far from the fence which I believe I could attach post to anchor it 134 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:31,920 and stuff. Yeah, I plan on catching as much water 135 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:35,320 as I can. Run it east. 136 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:53,760 Monty, can you go back up to the map or the drawing? Is that going to that's not 137 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:55,760 going to intrude on the neighbor at all or 138 00:13:55,279 --> 00:13:59,120 no? >> Not this one. 139 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:03,120 » Where? Let's see. 140 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:10,199 Am I seeing that one picture wrong? >> I will have to say the one to the south 141 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:14,720 of me um years ago when Troy Binder had [snorts] 142 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:21,120 too long there and that goes right up to where 143 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:25,600 it is. So, these two parcels got split up at one time. I think I seen in the 144 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:31,880 abstract or something. And that's why they're so 145 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:31,880 narrow and tight. 146 00:14:36,399 --> 00:14:42,950 Because if you look at the third block to the south, that's 147 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:44,970 right. [clears throat] 148 00:14:48,639 --> 00:14:57,360 neighbor to the south is fine drainage into the 149 00:14:54,160 --> 00:15:01,839 neighbor on the south is fine with >> I you don't know why you wouldn't be 150 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:04,839 okay so >> gota 151 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:15,600 » so then [snorts] 152 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:15,600 it's just going to 153 00:15:16,079 --> 00:15:22,279 Yeah, I guess it cleans it, right? That's not going to have enough walls on 154 00:15:19,279 --> 00:15:22,279 it. 155 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:28,639 » It makes it better to have walls on it. I can do that, too. 156 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:33,399 » I don't think it does make it better, but I don't I just wanted 157 00:15:33,519 --> 00:15:36,880 it just like that there, right? Just like 158 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:42,240 » pretty much. Yeah. [clears throat] Put up something, you know, little uh drop 159 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:48,320 down from the top for like the wind break or something. So kind of I don't 160 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:54,079 get any pictures of the front. I had redone that I put a one by 12 out there 161 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:58,759 just to so it don't catch like the bottom of it quite so hard. It can defr 162 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:08,156 all the I was in the tin that one time but not anymore. 163 00:16:06,136 --> 00:16:08,156 [laughter] 164 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:14,480 Peels the whole roof off. So >> yeah, but 165 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:29,120 So I move to approve. Second. A motion and second. 166 00:16:27,751 --> 00:16:39,160 [clears throat] All in favor say I. I. All opposed. 167 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:39,160 Motion pass. 168 00:16:41,519 --> 00:16:47,639 All right, Mr. Stern portfolios. 169 00:16:48,959 --> 00:16:55,079 So anyway, I'm just going to bring up here about the raises. 170 00:16:55,759 --> 00:16:59,959 You know, the city city city 171 00:17:00,079 --> 00:17:03,079 employees, 172 00:17:05,039 --> 00:17:09,959 you know, they work hard when they want. 173 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:15,799 became a form of form of I guess 174 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:22,760 he likes appreciation too as well. 175 00:17:25,439 --> 00:17:32,840 The last meeting and our stuff for the meeting 176 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:32,840 prior 177 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:39,240 large raise 178 00:17:41,039 --> 00:17:46,440 and stuff that we give out. They were also 179 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:06,559 raised too. So I don't guess what board's ideas are on that. 180 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:13,760 » So part of the reason that raise was given 181 00:18:09,919 --> 00:18:20,880 out was to make more make it more in line. So we had public 182 00:18:16,799 --> 00:18:27,039 transit drivers that require a CDL making substantially less than a nonCDL 183 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:32,080 public works person. So this brings that gap closer 184 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:36,480 together. Um, I believe if you have to have a 185 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:42,640 special permit to do your job, you should be compensating for it, too. Um, 186 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:47,120 that's part of the reason why that was brought up. And I brought that up when 187 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:53,840 we did the pay raises the last time, the last coron that it 188 00:18:51,039 --> 00:19:00,240 just didn't make sense that a non CDL public works is getting quite a bit more 189 00:18:55,760 --> 00:19:05,520 than a CDL required public transit driver. 190 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:10,640 At that time, nobody seemed to mind that reciting. Um, 191 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:15,600 even though I think it was brought up then too, 192 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:20,000 you know, that that certification and stuff, it just couldn't be a be a small 193 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:25,600 raise though. You know, I think [clears throat] 194 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:29,280 a quarter and stuff, you know, it's not a huge raise. 195 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:31,520 It's quite a bit more than that for the public's work people. 196 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:33,919 » Yeah. >> You know. 197 00:19:33,039 --> 00:19:37,039 » Yeah. >> I'm not 198 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:42,160 » They got to ride riding the back of the garbage truck when it's cold and storm. 199 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:47,039 It's blowing hot, you know. >> I get it. That's 200 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:51,440 » they got jobs that are also, you know. >> Well, I get that too, Casey. 201 00:19:49,120 --> 00:19:57,280 They're all the public transit people aren't 202 00:19:53,600 --> 00:20:03,200 making more than the CDL post works. They're still making quite a bit less 203 00:19:59,039 --> 00:20:10,480 than most people. Um sure. Are they are they even with the 204 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:14,679 non CEO public works? No. Still under them yet too. So 205 00:20:14,799 --> 00:20:24,880 » I I'll voice my Yes. I voted yes for last week and 206 00:20:21,360 --> 00:20:28,000 I voted for the simple fact of it wasn't pass. 207 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:32,559 Um I've been digesting this for the last 208 00:20:29,919 --> 00:20:38,400 several weeks and I'm just going to say it's not right period at all. 209 00:20:36,559 --> 00:20:45,520 Um, we've [clears throat] got a lot of our 210 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:52,400 city works guys here and gals. Um, Casey said they bust their home. 211 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:59,919 You know, we we got we got rain snow to shine. I know they're the drivers are uh 212 00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:04,320 bus drivers are busting their home, but they're not out in the elements. 213 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:10,159 And I've been up in zel before helping out 214 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:16,880 14 15 and a lot of these guys back there two of them three of them can vouch. Um 215 00:21:14,559 --> 00:21:22,640 so I've I'm just going to be honest again I 216 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:27,200 really got issue with it. um 217 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:32,240 not saying it was not deserving of a raise, but uh just some of the privilege 218 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:37,600 that was brought up in that meeting and I've watched it more than once over and 219 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:42,480 um do I wish we would have waited till 220 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:48,400 budget time? Yes, absolutely. Um but now we got to make it right. 221 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:54,919 Period. Um, 222 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:54,919 we got to take care of all of our 223 00:21:55,360 --> 00:22:02,480 valuable employees. I don't know what I don't know what the word is. 224 00:22:00,159 --> 00:22:05,360 » Can you Andy, can you tell me the word? No. 225 00:22:03,679 --> 00:22:12,799 » Can you Jared tell me what word? >> Uh, so um I guess I can explain it, but 226 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:15,679 I you guys have kind of got the you guys basically got the gist of it is um 227 00:22:14,905 --> 00:22:19,919 [clears throat] we did adjust all the rates across all 228 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:24,720 departments. I know at the time Dustin did bring up that he wondered why they 229 00:22:22,559 --> 00:22:29,360 were getting paid less for a CPL. But at that same time, you guys did agree every 230 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:36,080 professional license at the city only to 25 cents raise over what your maximum is 231 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:42,720 um and different positions obviously pay different number different rates. And 232 00:22:39,919 --> 00:22:48,880 then supposedly when the rates were increased there was research done to see 233 00:22:45,360 --> 00:22:53,840 what um that position would be paying at cities similar size to Hazen at similar 234 00:22:51,120 --> 00:23:00,400 incomes. So theoretically everyone got a competitive salary at the last race and 235 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:05,679 then we we also would like to comp want compensation for our maintaining our 236 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:09,679 life sentences. So then we take to the agreement that 25 cents is what the 237 00:23:07,919 --> 00:23:14,799 commission want to pay. And then suddenly that got turned around to well 238 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:20,799 they have CDL, they have a CDL, let's give them a large raise. So that one's 239 00:23:17,360 --> 00:23:26,159 worth $6 and these ones are worth 25 cents. These guys have CDLs and they got 240 00:23:22,799 --> 00:23:33,200 25 cents for on top of that um 241 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:37,760 in the meeting like Pat was trying to bring up there was verbiage that hurt 242 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:43,440 some feelings that the main reason given besides CDL was to retain valuable 243 00:23:40,559 --> 00:23:47,440 employees and not saying she's not valuable 244 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:52,640 » but she was the only one considered well I guess busing was considered busing 245 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:56,960 even got a raise a $1 raise while the rest of us here have never got a random 246 00:23:55,440 --> 00:24:01,679 raise and this came 247 00:23:59,039 --> 00:24:05,200 6 [snorts] months after the last raise for adjusting the race if any of us 248 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:12,200 would have came forward we feel we would have been told you guys just got a raise 249 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:12,200 why are you asking for more 250 00:24:12,559 --> 00:24:20,720 so it just seems to us that there is a favoritism going on whether it's for a 251 00:24:18,799 --> 00:24:26,000 department or an individual where there's mission is 252 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:29,520 more less value in some of its employees that have been here substantially 253 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:35,120 longer. Um, but we would also like to point out 254 00:24:33,279 --> 00:24:39,039 that another thing that this raised in a burden we did I no one probably thought 255 00:24:37,120 --> 00:24:43,200 of it but there is an 18month probationary period where you are not at 256 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:48,000 full rate and the city pay that all of us had to go through to get to our full 257 00:24:45,360 --> 00:24:54,400 rate but that got skipped by making the pay raise effective immediately rather 258 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:58,480 than waiting for the period be up or even making effective immediately and 259 00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:03,200 then making sure it's reduced by the profit percentage until 18 month 260 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:09,600 probation is up. So one basically skipping one year of the 18month 261 00:25:04,799 --> 00:25:16,559 probation. So it's just a lot of um contradictory things that we've noticed 262 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:23,600 that are making us as a whole feel like we are not being equally as valued here 263 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:28,120 at city of Hazen as someone who's um getting these special treatments. 264 00:25:31,120 --> 00:25:40,080 I just truly think that we've we've dug a hole and we've got to make it right. 265 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:44,480 Period. End of story. And like I said, I've digested this for 266 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:49,600 the last several weeks. And it's burning deep inside of me right now. 267 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:55,440 I see you guys were coming from. It's not like I'm saying you guys don't 268 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:59,520 deserve another race. All I was trying to do is 269 00:25:57,120 --> 00:26:05,840 narrow that gap. Um, and it wasn't even my idea, but um, 270 00:26:03,679 --> 00:26:10,640 I brought it up at the last meeting that it didn't make any sense at all. Not the 271 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:16,159 last meeting, the last go around pay rates. It didn't make sense that there 272 00:26:12,799 --> 00:26:24,000 was that large of a gap between um there's a large gap. And if you you 273 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:29,919 look at a non CDL driver versus a CDL driver of public works, it's 274 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:35,679 It's more like a $5 difference. It's not a 25 cent difference. Um, 275 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:40,720 so that's where I voted yes on it and I 276 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:45,919 agree with it. It should have been done the last go around, but [clears throat] 277 00:26:43,039 --> 00:26:50,640 I was the only one that seen an issue with that. I'm not sure if anybody 278 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:56,400 looked into the public transit drivers pay the last time. I looked into my 279 00:26:54,240 --> 00:27:01,279 portfolio holders and they were subnaturally lower than the area around 280 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:06,240 us. Yes, we were probably still higher than 281 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:13,120 Bowman or some of the other little towns not in oil, you know, coal country, 282 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:18,159 but when you got a town 9 miles apart and there were we're losing people from 283 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:24,240 Hazel going to work over there because it pays quite a bit higher, I have an 284 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:30,080 issue with that. Um, that's why I stuck to my portfolio on 285 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:35,120 the police department. I did raise concerns about the public transit. Um, 286 00:27:33,279 --> 00:27:43,520 nobody else seen an issue with it at that time other than I. 287 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:51,360 I would still just like to um reiterate that um the idea is these guys do more 288 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:55,440 than or do different a different job than what public transit does. These 289 00:27:53,679 --> 00:27:59,120 guys clear the streets. These guys cut the trees. These guys ride the garbage 290 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:04,320 truck. These guys fix the potholes. They have a 291 00:28:02,159 --> 00:28:12,399 lot of different responsibilities than just what their CDL provides. So, 292 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:17,520 we don't get why the CDL is the sticking point for why it needs to be closer 293 00:28:15,360 --> 00:28:20,960 because they both have CDLs versus someone who doesn't have a CDL but does 294 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:25,440 all these other things for the city. It's two different positions. And then 295 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:30,000 if every if the licenses were agreed to be 296 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:34,960 a 25 cent raise it we would all prefer the larger raise 297 00:28:33,120 --> 00:28:41,360 for each of our license. I mean I have three to run the water. He has three to 298 00:28:37,360 --> 00:28:46,320 run the water plus he has his spraying licenses. We would all like you know for 299 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:52,240 if you add those up at about what that's like almost $20 an hour raise. And then 300 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:59,279 anyone else who has any other specialty licenses, why are we have to sell for 25 301 00:28:55,360 --> 00:29:06,640 cent increase for holding a license even just because the position is different? 302 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:13,760 It doesn't it's just not fair treatment among employees for what is considered I 303 00:29:10,559 --> 00:29:18,799 can understand if you I can understand like the need for 304 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:23,279 bumping up wages. I mean, we had that cost last year. Every once in a while, 305 00:29:20,799 --> 00:29:32,559 that kind of needs to be re-evaluated, needs to be looked at, but it's 306 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:38,880 it's a different job entirely and that and we were under the impression that 307 00:29:35,279 --> 00:29:46,320 all the weight wage bumps were competitive. So, it just look to us it 308 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:52,480 seems like either the wage wages set w actually competitive and we 309 00:29:48,799 --> 00:29:58,799 kind of got screwed or it's preferential treatment and we 310 00:29:55,360 --> 00:30:04,799 don't want to stand for that. We want to be recognized that we are valuable 311 00:30:01,279 --> 00:30:10,000 members of the city and that work working here keeps this city running the 312 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:14,120 best that it can be and we would like to be recognized for that. 313 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:23,679 I guess I'm going to just add a little to it. You're saying uh you have to 314 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:28,799 compare apples to apples. You can't compare that to what these guys do. You 315 00:30:25,919 --> 00:30:33,279 can't you just can't. I mean, they're out 40 below zero behind a walking 316 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:37,840 behind garbage truck. And not nothing against her, but she's sitting in a in a 317 00:30:35,679 --> 00:30:42,399 heated vehicle. There's a way big difference. Okay. And when you talk 318 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:46,320 about just by license, I hold the most professional license on the whole city 319 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:49,840 crew, but I'm the least paid person on the city crew. And I don't have a 320 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:54,399 problem with that. I said yes to what I what I made. If I didn't like it, I 321 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:59,440 could leave. That's how I look at it. Okay. But like I said, you have you 322 00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:03,520 can't say because she she has to make the same these guys. 323 00:31:01,919 --> 00:31:06,000 » That's asinite. >> She doesn't make the same. 324 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:09,600 » But particularly >> that's that's the thing. She doesn't. 325 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:15,679 » But it's >> she's she's still getting paid less than 326 00:31:11,919 --> 00:31:21,840 a nonCDL public work driver does. >> That is true. You brought it into like a 327 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:26,399 range of like a dollar in some sense is what you made the difference of. And 328 00:31:23,801 --> 00:31:31,679 [clears throat] we could understand that maybe as the director 329 00:31:29,679 --> 00:31:36,240 for busing, yeah, she would make a little more, but the other busing guy 330 00:31:34,399 --> 00:31:39,519 and the other busing guys are technically all time because everything 331 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:48,399 over there was a part-time position until uh of recently, but 332 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:53,039 that's the it's a different job entirely and that's it. It was always the the pay 333 00:31:50,559 --> 00:31:57,120 gap was there to begin with because someone at some point in because they 334 00:31:55,679 --> 00:31:59,919 looked at all the rates and said this is about what these guys make. These are 335 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:05,279 what these guys make. There's about this much difference between these positions 336 00:32:01,279 --> 00:32:10,559 because it was agreed upon upon across multiple cities that these guys' job 337 00:32:07,919 --> 00:32:15,360 fees should pay more than this position. And now yes, it's tech we're it is 338 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:21,919 technically less but it's so close because it was such a substantial raise. 339 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:27,120 That gap just we don't understand why that gap's so small here. Why? Because 340 00:32:24,559 --> 00:32:31,279 if we are paying like even better for busing, why are we paying even better 341 00:32:28,799 --> 00:32:34,960 than competitive? Just busing what every other park we're going to pay as good 342 00:32:33,279 --> 00:32:41,360 enough. What from what Jesse told us, we're 343 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:46,559 paying par with the competitors around us for bus. Not that we're paying 344 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:51,919 better, we're about level with the competitors around us. So I don't know. 345 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:57,519 That's not my portfolio. I did not look into it the last go around to how we 346 00:32:54,240 --> 00:33:03,919 were competitive wise. I looked at my portfolio 347 00:32:59,039 --> 00:33:08,640 um we were way under um I remember at the police department we got a are 348 00:33:06,399 --> 00:33:14,000 really large to get up to what everybody else around us was. Um I don't know if 349 00:33:11,919 --> 00:33:19,360 these other commissioners looked into their portfolios and adjusted it 350 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:23,200 accordingly or not. I stuck to my portfolio. 351 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:28,320 » It's it's not the fact of the matter. you looked into your portfolio. 352 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:33,440 The fact of the matter is is and I'm I'm just going to go back to I 353 00:33:30,399 --> 00:33:36,679 test the substantial raise is the fact of the matter. 354 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:45,440 We've got we've got longer test of employees sitting right here and Sunny. 355 00:33:41,679 --> 00:33:48,640 Sorry, nothing against you, but we've got to make it right. Period. The 356 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:52,720 whole story. >> So, how do you want to make it right? 357 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:57,760 » I don't know. Mr. Chair, is this the is this part of a 358 00:33:55,279 --> 00:34:04,080 report or is this better discussed during your budgeting process? 359 00:34:01,279 --> 00:34:12,079 » Well, I just threw it out there. I mean, yes, I would I would want this 360 00:34:09,599 --> 00:34:18,639 all this stuff, you know, I guess in the budget. I guess that was my goal. I 361 00:34:14,399 --> 00:34:23,040 guess intent, I should say. So, yes. >> It's just kind of a point of order as to 362 00:34:21,839 --> 00:34:25,679 whe It's appropriate to 363 00:34:24,639 --> 00:34:31,200 » Sorry about that. Yeah. >> To have this whole thing reporting. 364 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:36,960 » Yeah. >> That's your chart. 365 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:41,879 » How do you want to proceed, Casey? >> Well, I mean, I'd like to give him 366 00:34:38,399 --> 00:34:41,879 raise. You know, 367 00:34:41,919 --> 00:34:50,359 the budget here is due here in about a month or so 368 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,359 month. Is that 369 00:34:52,240 --> 00:34:56,760 So, so yeah, 370 00:34:57,599 --> 00:35:04,839 you know, if we could I'm just going to throw that out there 371 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,800 raise in the 372 00:35:21,839 --> 00:35:27,359 You know, I mean, I guess [clears throat] 373 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:30,359 you know, like a couple dollars, you know, 374 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:40,720 that's just me. I guess I want to hear too, I guess, what you guys think. So, 375 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:45,280 » I think that's more fair. Would you like to do a dollar amount or a percentage 376 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:51,760 amount? >> It's got to be a dollar. 377 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:55,560 » I do too. And the reason is is that then then the I guess 378 00:35:55,599 --> 00:36:01,119 I guess the the spread is going to get out again. 379 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:04,800 » And I think that's where it kind of happens. 380 00:36:03,119 --> 00:36:10,000 Since I've been on, it's [clears throat] always been a percentage raise every 381 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:16,480 year. And then gaps just keep getting larger and larger. Um, and I I've seen 382 00:36:13,839 --> 00:36:21,520 that at other places too by always doing percentages. Your lowest 383 00:36:19,599 --> 00:36:28,720 paid employees, they get a 3% but their 3% is way less 384 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:34,240 than somebody's getting paid 10 $10 an hour more. So that gap keeps growing and 385 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:41,200 growing. Every once in a while you got to shrink that gap. um that did happen 386 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:48,079 to me at Midco. They finally realized like somebody knew getting them hired 387 00:36:44,240 --> 00:36:52,480 there was dramatically less than somebody that's been there 10 388 00:36:50,240 --> 00:36:59,359 years and tacked up. You know, obviously they deserve more, but the pay gap was 389 00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:04,880 enormous. So when you tacked up, you were getting like $5 an hour pay gaps 390 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:08,640 and they this this ain't right. So they ended up redoing the entire pay 391 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:15,040 structure. So I agree is rather do a dollar amount 392 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:20,720 than a percentage amount. And I think that's partially where all this came 393 00:37:17,599 --> 00:37:26,400 about is by the percentages year after year after year. It just compounds. 394 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:33,320 It may not seem big one year, but you do it 10 years in a row, it it gets to be 395 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:33,320 quite a bit different. 396 00:37:35,359 --> 00:37:39,400 bring back next meeting. 397 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:53,119 » So I just want to say one more thing. Uh you guys were right. It's bigger than 398 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:59,680 what can be handled. Just a report needs to be handled as a item at a meeting. I 399 00:37:56,480 --> 00:38:03,280 also think um perhaps there needs to be a sit down and a little bit of a talk 400 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:08,800 with the employees to understand our expectations so that we can be on the 401 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:13,520 same page going forward so that this doesn't turn into a situation where you 402 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:17,839 guys try to do something in your guys's best intention and then we see it as a 403 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:22,400 slap in the face and then there's a miscommunication there and people are 404 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:29,760 more upset. So I think there needs to be some more dialogue between us as the 405 00:38:26,240 --> 00:38:37,680 employees and the commission before the meeting or any approval of these of 406 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:43,720 anything goes through I guess is what I'm just trying to say is there needs to 407 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:43,720 be more dialogue before 408 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,960 you have anything 409 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:58,320 Jason >> um I'm going to turn it over to Dave I 410 00:38:56,400 --> 00:39:00,800 got [clears throat] a repair estimate for the 411 00:39:01,359 --> 00:39:06,960 You want it? >> Case loader developed a clicking noise 412 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:11,920 and vibration and they've determined that the drive shaft that couples the 413 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:16,640 motor directly to the transmission is a spline spline shaft with the 414 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:20,720 U-jints and that assembly is starting to fail. 415 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:23,760 So, it looks like they'll be how they get that out of there. I'm not exactly 416 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:28,240 sure. Either the transmission comes off before it comes out or it comes out as a 417 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:31,480 unit. They split it, put the shaft stuff back in. 418 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:39,599 There could be more wrong once they get it apart or whatever, but this is the 419 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:42,760 the preliminary what they know is wrong for sure. 420 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:52,800 I mean, we we have to fix it, but my my question now is 421 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:58,160 we tear it apart. I' I'd really like to I'd like to 422 00:39:55,760 --> 00:40:01,280 approve this, but I'd really like to know and I don't know how we should do 423 00:39:59,599 --> 00:40:06,400 this, Monty. If >> they call you, Dave, and say, "Oh, we're 424 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:10,880 we're another five grand into this thing." You know, I 425 00:40:09,119 --> 00:40:15,280 » That's an envelope you just can't see in until they start actually getting into 426 00:40:12,720 --> 00:40:22,880 the machine or whatever. >> Or we can prove it 5,000 more, I guess. 427 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:26,240 I just don't know if that's enough. >> It's hard for them guys, you know, tear 428 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:29,280 a machine apart, say it's going to be another 5,000. I got to say, well, we 429 00:40:28,079 --> 00:40:33,440 got to wait another week and a half till the commission meets before they go pay 430 00:40:31,119 --> 00:40:38,720 the the repair that's got one of their bays tied up. 431 00:40:36,720 --> 00:40:45,880 » Monty, is that something that >> you can approve of this amount plus a 432 00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:45,880 contingent up to a certain amount? 433 00:40:46,240 --> 00:40:54,800 Okay, let's let's approve this this uh quote for you have to read it 434 00:40:53,599 --> 00:41:02,000 $13 >> 13 63710 435 00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:06,440 » and contingent I'd like to add another let's just say five grand on it 436 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:13,040 » they're really good at keeping in touch as as they work on it they give me 437 00:41:10,720 --> 00:41:16,079 updates or whatever and it's easy enough for me to 438 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:20,800 information come out to you where he can put it in your guys' mailboxes or or 439 00:41:19,119 --> 00:41:23,599 whatever. So, I can keep pretty close tabs on it. 440 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:26,920 » Yeah. That way we're not leaving them guys hanging. 441 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:36,040 » Monty, could you read that, please? >> I just got your motion to approve the 442 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:36,040 $13,63710 443 00:41:36,240 --> 00:41:44,240 with $5,000 contingency for additional repairs as needed. Okay. 444 00:41:42,079 --> 00:41:49,640 » Thank you. a motion. 445 00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,640 Second 446 00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,680 discussion 447 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:56,560 already did that. Roll call. >> Pat. 448 00:41:56,079 --> 00:41:57,440 » Hi. >> Stern. 449 00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,480 » Hi. >> Wedric. 450 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:04,560 » Hi. Motion pass. 451 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:08,000 » And using the the older GMC dump truck. It's a 2000 or whatever. It's got a cat 452 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:13,359 engine in it. I'd like to make an appointment at Freedom Truck Center. 453 00:42:10,720 --> 00:42:17,680 starting to develop a pretty good oily running. Starting to leave puddles on 454 00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:21,839 the ground. It needs to be addressed somewhere up 455 00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:27,440 between the head and the block, but it's coming from the top side, but not 456 00:42:25,599 --> 00:42:33,720 like to get an appointment out there and get it diagnosed and get the price back. 457 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:33,720 It's going to take that. 458 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:38,440 » Yeah, we don't need a motion on that. 459 00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:46,800 That's all I have. >> Yeah, we're just still working the trees 460 00:42:44,319 --> 00:42:50,440 more for this time of 461 00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,440 » year. 462 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,440 Library 463 00:42:54,560 --> 00:43:00,680 has a non-discrimination policy statement. 464 00:43:04,720 --> 00:43:13,520 » Unless you want to take it. >> Oh, no. on there for any business that 465 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:17,480 » the title six plan is due next week. So everything is just getting updated 466 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,800 for 467 00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:30,440 me for police forestry. 468 00:43:31,599 --> 00:43:38,960 Dave got a quote from turn trees. There's a large tree on Main Street that 469 00:43:36,240 --> 00:43:44,640 split last weekend. Sounds like there's two come alongs holding it together. So, 470 00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:52,520 the quotes for $2,200 from Turtis Trees. Like to make a motion 471 00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:52,520 to approve the removal of that tree. 472 00:43:53,760 --> 00:44:05,000 Excuse me. Second. I did ask Dave. Sounds like it's 473 00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:05,000 too big for us to really tackle. 474 00:44:06,230 --> 00:44:11,839 » [clears throat] >> Since they already 475 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:16,280 were nice enough to come in and tie it together, I might as well 476 00:44:17,839 --> 00:44:21,920 discussion. Roll 477 00:44:20,240 --> 00:44:28,880 » call. >> I turn I 478 00:44:25,599 --> 00:44:33,359 motion passes. Sergeant, do you have anything for the 479 00:44:30,720 --> 00:44:38,880 police department side of things? Yeah, I think we need to set a time 480 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:44,160 aside to discuss the chief police position. 481 00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:47,839 We're going to tackle that. Um, obviously there's issues with employees 482 00:44:46,079 --> 00:44:52,079 all over the place here. So, let's just add to that. You got half your force 483 00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:56,640 here. We've been going on almost eight months of overtime and we understand 484 00:44:54,560 --> 00:45:02,400 that that's kind of the way the machine works right now, but we're getting a 485 00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:08,079 little burnt out. Um, if we can out the chief police position. I've had 486 00:45:04,720 --> 00:45:13,680 inquiries into hiring people. They know that we're a 487 00:45:10,240 --> 00:45:18,160 man down. I think we need to get back to fully staffed. I think we need to 488 00:45:15,119 --> 00:45:24,079 address some severe issues that we have with the police department. Um 489 00:45:21,359 --> 00:45:27,119 I don't know how we want to do that. Um actually listening to these guys, it 490 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:32,720 sounds like they got a good representative here. Um I think they had 491 00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:36,000 a really good idea that Before anything gets decided, there needs to be 492 00:45:34,319 --> 00:45:39,280 » You better be the chief right there. >> There needs to be a 493 00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:42,400 meeting. >> You got to do more. You're get paid 494 00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:48,800 more. >> There needs to be a meeting between the 495 00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:54,560 staff and all of the commissioners >> so that we can figure this out. 496 00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:59,839 » So, we were waiting on one thing to post the chief position. Um, we're trying to 497 00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:06,720 get a quote on Andy Pers law enforcement for you guys. We did get that quote and 498 00:46:02,319 --> 00:46:11,599 it is in the budget for um 2027. So, we're kind of waiting on that before 499 00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:19,599 we force the chief position to help advertise that chief position. 500 00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:24,640 So, we did just get um approval to Monty to get that chief position typed up. 501 00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:29,920 He's going to get it out emailed out to the commission to approve the ad and 502 00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:34,240 we'll get it posted. >> So, Can I add to that? You had mentioned 503 00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:38,480 that you had reached out to Terry Turnis and some of the deputies were willing to 504 00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:42,480 take some of our extra shifts that we're all working. 505 00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:44,560 » Um, yes. So, Terry did say that if we do need help, we're supposed to reach out 506 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:48,400 to him. >> And do you guys have approved or have 507 00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:51,119 you had any discussion on what you're going to pay those guys because they're 508 00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:55,599 not going to come over for just their regular wage? 509 00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:58,640 » We have not had any discussion on that part. 510 00:46:57,040 --> 00:47:04,160 » Okay. There's another officer who would like to take some days off and if we can 511 00:47:02,240 --> 00:47:07,680 get those filled in from somebody else, that's something that you guys need to 512 00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:12,480 decide and hopefully quickly. >> Okay. Sergeant, can you get those days 513 00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:18,480 to me? What days which days they want off? 514 00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:20,880 » Well, they're going to they're going to fluctuate. 515 00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:23,280 » Yeah, our schedules fluctuate. So, depending 516 00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:26,079 on what day >> and that's, you know, we're going to 517 00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:32,240 need to decide that quickly because you're asking law enforcement to use 518 00:47:29,119 --> 00:47:36,480 their day off to come over here and help us. You know, Pa just got fully staffed. 519 00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:43,200 I know the sheriff's department just got fully staffed. Oliver County just got 520 00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:49,119 fully staffed. So, you know, obviously they were down a guy running overtime. 521 00:47:47,119 --> 00:47:54,000 So, we're going to ask them to come over here and help us put in some more time, 522 00:47:52,079 --> 00:47:59,359 which their their days off are just as important as ours ours. So I think yeah 523 00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,200 that's an important one to get figured out too. 524 00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:04,200 » I should have never got in that position. 525 00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:11,319 » Thank you. 526 00:48:12,720 --> 00:48:16,839 » I don't understand that comment. 527 00:48:27,839 --> 00:48:36,400 Okay. So, I don't have anything else. HD. 528 00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:42,640 » Mine's very simple. Uh, we now actually have Elevate Together LLC and the former 529 00:48:39,599 --> 00:48:49,680 crearyy is official. Uh, Dana Moss has it as a health service, advocacy, 530 00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:54,160 employment, housing for those who who who are trying to get their life back, 531 00:48:52,160 --> 00:49:01,599 mental health services. So, she has clients, patients, and she right now is 532 00:48:57,599 --> 00:49:08,000 looking for any um furniture, household items, clothing that is a pantry for her 533 00:49:05,599 --> 00:49:13,920 clients and her patients. So, that is now open at the former crearyy building. 534 00:49:12,240 --> 00:49:19,599 So, that's one less building that we have sitting empty, thank goodness. And 535 00:49:17,119 --> 00:49:27,599 uh the invitations that you received the last meeting for SR71 dedication has now 536 00:49:23,599 --> 00:49:33,520 been postponed to October 23rd. The reason is the plaintiff would not have 537 00:49:30,079 --> 00:49:38,720 been done. I can tell you now it is pretty much completed. Um it's going to 538 00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:44,480 be wonderful. We hope you guys can come and uh be part of our special 539 00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:48,800 celebration. Uh other than that, HC is contining with 540 00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:53,280 Um, I actually learned how to do a few things with reconciling all on my own. 541 00:49:51,119 --> 00:49:59,440 So, we are making progress. Thank you again for the opportunity. 542 00:49:56,160 --> 00:50:04,319 » Thank you. Uh, President Triple isn't here, but I've been working with him the 543 00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:09,040 last couple weeks on our little dog incident. We've had a couple dog 544 00:50:06,720 --> 00:50:14,480 incidents. So, we'd like the rest of the commission to read through our animal 545 00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:18,880 all ordinance. and we've seen some loopholes. Um, with the amount of people 546 00:50:17,359 --> 00:50:23,839 gone, we didn't really want to take action on it. Um, but we'd like you to 547 00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:30,559 read through it and bring back some commenting next week on stuff we could 548 00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:35,040 add to it. Um, I did read through it this week and 549 00:50:33,119 --> 00:50:40,480 there definitely some loopholes that I think we need to tighten up on. So, if 550 00:50:37,839 --> 00:50:44,640 we could put that on the agenda for next meeting, we'll go through that. 551 00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:53,480 all new business credit. 552 00:50:56,240 --> 00:51:03,040 » This is a annual 553 00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:06,200 » everyating or non-discriminatory 554 00:51:06,240 --> 00:51:09,240 program. 555 00:51:10,240 --> 00:51:18,559 » Motion approve. A motion 556 00:51:14,079 --> 00:51:23,680 second. A second. All in favor? >> I 557 00:51:20,319 --> 00:51:31,520 oppose. [clears throat] Motion passes. 558 00:51:26,319 --> 00:51:34,920 Uh request for dup duplicate warrant. G. Walter 559 00:51:36,319 --> 00:51:46,040 payment under contract of the library for story time. She never receives. 560 00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:46,040 She's requesting it be reissued. 561 00:51:50,559 --> 00:51:57,800 » So move. >> Second. 562 00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:57,800 A motion. Second. Discussion. 563 00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:03,000 » Roll call. Start. >> I 564 00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:07,079 motion passes. 565 00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:14,240 Public comments. Anybody from the comment? 566 00:52:11,839 --> 00:52:19,760 the building down our street that garage. 567 00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:24,119 Why was there an e? Why isn't that out in the industrial 568 00:52:25,599 --> 00:52:28,599 huge 569 00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:37,280 street? It was given a variance by the commission. If I remember right, they 570 00:52:34,559 --> 00:52:43,920 lined up with the garages that were already on that block. 571 00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:49,680 That's a lot. >> I thought we It was approved a variance 572 00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:53,440 closer to this to the property line and didn't require variance for the sidewall 573 00:52:51,760 --> 00:53:00,240 height because of changes planning and zoning had made. 574 00:52:54,800 --> 00:53:04,800 » Y didn't it line up with um ratchets? >> Similar to ratchets a couple feet 575 00:53:02,319 --> 00:53:09,200 difference. >> But Ratchets is totally different than 576 00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:12,960 that big building. Again, 577 00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:19,040 Monty, can you repeat the planning and zoning? Do you have do you know what 578 00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:21,599 those are? The the stipulations for the sidewall height? I don't remember what 579 00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:24,559 it is. >> 14 without variance. No. 580 00:53:23,599 --> 00:53:28,800 » Okay. >> So, are you talking sidewall height or 581 00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:34,319 just physical size? Huge? >> Just size and the way it shifted in. Why 582 00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:38,880 was it flushed back? Why did they want Why did they want to 583 00:53:36,240 --> 00:53:42,760 move again? I don't remember why. 584 00:53:48,319 --> 00:53:53,280 Have to look back in the meeting minutes to figure out why. I I don't remember 585 00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:58,359 off the top. >> If I was to bet it was probably concrete 586 00:53:55,359 --> 00:53:58,359 cost. 587 00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:07,359 I'm just guessing. >> That would be my guess. But it looks 10 588 00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:11,839 times better. Not given, but it's too late now. 589 00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:15,240 You just open a whole can of worms for everybody else. 590 00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:25,200 And then on these raffle tickets, there's got to be some stipulation. You 591 00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:30,160 can't have a husband and wife take raffle tickets and dry. Do you think 592 00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:34,640 that's fair? >> What are you talking about? any of the 593 00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:38,880 one the Northstar baseball >> they do get drunk at the field at 594 00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:42,000 » it was not being drawn >> that was 595 00:54:39,839 --> 00:54:44,800 » no not what I >> was 596 00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:48,720 » were you there >> I talked to three different board 597 00:54:46,559 --> 00:54:51,760 members and they all three said without question 598 00:54:49,359 --> 00:54:54,880 » then why did the president say that was home 599 00:54:53,200 --> 00:55:01,480 » and if you look at the spreadsheet that was drawn in the city of st two of them 600 00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:01,480 were drawn at the city of Yeah. 601 00:55:04,720 --> 00:55:13,359 » Were they >> Monty? Can you What What's 602 00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:16,559 » There are no requirements that I've ever found in the statute or the 603 00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:20,960 administrative code that says a husband and wife can't do conduct drawings. 604 00:55:19,359 --> 00:55:26,480 » But it on the ticket it was supposed to be drawn at the field. 605 00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:30,240 » Initially it wasn't. We we contacted this permit holder and they began 606 00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:34,960 drawing that field. >> Oh, see that's did not know that. That's 607 00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:39,000 not what they told me. >> But they did it for two years. 608 00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:47,720 You guys got to follow some rules here. A big mess. 609 00:55:49,839 --> 00:55:52,839 Anybody 610 00:56:03,359 --> 00:56:10,319 else from the public? Any comments? >> My name is Johnson. I'm the commander of 611 00:56:08,079 --> 00:56:14,960 the legion. I know it says that we're supposed to talk with George, 612 00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:21,680 » but if I could just have a minute to clarify a time what's happening with 613 00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:28,559 what I >> uh our last legion meeting last month, a 614 00:56:24,559 --> 00:56:34,400 person came forward. It's full of money and they would like to have a monument 615 00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:39,280 for the veterans in Hazen, but they would like to kind of have it in a place 616 00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:47,440 where it is seen uh it's a sizable amount of money and uh 617 00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:52,400 the timetable is they would like to have something established where they know 618 00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:58,960 the end of the year that something's going to happen to be able to give this 619 00:56:55,280 --> 00:57:03,280 money to the legion to build this. So that's kind of why we're here to 620 00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:09,839 wonder if there's any spots it's kind of visible that we could get and or 621 00:57:07,839 --> 00:57:14,480 whatever. If we have to purchase something for the land, so be it. But it 622 00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:19,760 would be better if we could put most of it into a monument. So that's why we're 623 00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:23,119 asking you. Uh George says a year out. Yes, it might take a year out to build 624 00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:27,839 it, but there's kind of a timetable where we we formed a committee and to be 625 00:57:26,319 --> 00:57:32,720 able to do anything on committee, we kind of have to have a piece of earth 626 00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:37,680 and to know the size of the earth. So we know the size of the monument that we 627 00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:45,680 can build. Uh he mentions about a city lot. There's probably enough money there 628 00:57:41,599 --> 00:57:50,400 to build something that would be oh it all depends on but the money is is 629 00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:54,559 sizable but it's all continued just for the monument. It's not for the reason 630 00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:59,119 and it's not for anything else. So just clarify kind of where at the time table 631 00:57:56,720 --> 00:58:04,079 with this. So if you guys have any ideas where there's some property either city 632 00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:10,400 or personal property that would work for this it would help us just to for some 633 00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:15,280 know where we could probably put this little visibility to it. So that's all I 634 00:58:13,839 --> 00:58:20,319 have to say for that. Thank you very much for your time. 635 00:58:17,119 --> 00:58:27,040 » Monty my first earlier and I don't know how much footage we got from the SR71 636 00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:31,280 to the edge of that property. continue to develop our project on the 637 00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:36,319 east side. Uh that was my first thought. 638 00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:40,880 » That was also mine too. We thought about that spot or at the end of the 639 00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:44,880 apartments down here. A little section on on the be down there would be 640 00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:48,319 probably a good little spot. You know, a good spot would been where Coleman's 641 00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:52,480 bought that little property, but I know Coleman's now have that property across 642 00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:58,480 from the from the lumber yard. That would have been a nice little spot. and 643 00:58:53,920 --> 00:59:02,960 then also to the west of of your water treatment plant that you had. So, I 644 00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:06,720 mean, those are just some spots that I saw driving around that might be city 645 00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:12,480 property, but I know there's probably private property that you would know 646 00:59:08,319 --> 00:59:17,440 about that might be available with what the property is like in hasten, you 647 00:59:14,319 --> 00:59:21,760 know. So, any feedback that we would have so we could start on this would be 648 00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:26,720 really helpful. So, thank you much. first spot I thought thought of by the 649 00:59:23,599 --> 00:59:29,839 SR71, but I wasn't sure if they or you guys would want to combine those two 650 00:59:29,119 --> 00:59:35,200 together. >> No, we actually brought that up today at 651 00:59:31,839 --> 00:59:41,280 our SR71 committee meeting. Um, that was the first thought I had to my second 652 00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:46,400 thought and I'm not sure what it is, but the Chamber of Commerce takes care and 653 00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:52,000 maintains the little pocket park and we have that amphitheater cement area that 654 00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:57,599 just sits there and So that could be a possibility. But what I can do is talk 655 00:59:54,480 --> 01:00:04,319 with the HCV board of directors and um also the convention visitors bureau much 656 01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:09,280 rent that whole lot lot area. So I think there should be some potential. 657 01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:12,720 » Yeah. No, it's it's probably uh I hate to say but it's probably a quart million 658 01:00:11,119 --> 01:00:16,960 dollars that's going to be invested in this. So it's not a little project. 659 01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:24,640 Wouldn't that be enough there beside the SR71 project for which you 660 01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:28,480 » concern? They can go take a look at it. I mean, whatever sites that we have, 661 01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:31,920 we'll have to build accordingly, but we can build out that far. 662 01:00:30,079 --> 01:00:37,760 » The only thing out there is we do not at this time. That could be another phase 663 01:00:33,839 --> 01:00:42,559 with with cameras, but the pocket park does have security. 664 01:00:40,799 --> 01:00:47,280 » So, if you have any suggestions, please let us know. George or or myself or 665 01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:52,240 whatever, but you probably have a lot of contact with George and uh you can let 666 01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:57,119 him know that these are possible spots and they can take a look at appreciate 667 01:00:55,040 --> 01:01:03,119 you let me this time. I know it's probably not proper but 668 01:01:00,079 --> 01:01:07,839 I just want to mention I think would be very nice for the city. 669 01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:11,520 Uh our proposal is not to have a big wall like they have staff like said with 670 01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:16,079 all the names on it. It would be like the monument but all the branches of 671 01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:22,799 service. Thank you to the wife's promises, maybe a a statue of a soldier 672 01:01:19,599 --> 01:01:26,559 or something and a couple flag poles built out. That's about what we're 673 01:01:24,559 --> 01:01:32,319 thinking about to start with. You know, we're just in the baby stages of this 674 01:01:28,799 --> 01:01:35,319 thing, you know, baby stages. So, thank you. 675 01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:44,160 » Anybody else? Any public comments? I'd like to add a little bit to what you 676 01:01:41,599 --> 01:01:48,960 talked about earlier. I want to say I do have a great bunch of guys working with 677 01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:53,200 me or under me. They never hesitate to come out in the middle of the night. 678 01:01:50,319 --> 01:01:57,200 Blizzard had to call them out water department with water breaks or 679 01:01:54,799 --> 01:02:02,559 whatever. I mean, they never fight, but they're always ready to come in and help 680 01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:06,520 and work. And I appreciate that. That makes my job a lot easier. 681 01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:13,119 And [snorts] the guys that I have on my crew that don't have CDLs, they usually 682 01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:17,040 work towards that and get their CDL licenses. 683 01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:20,480 It's not like any of the newcomers coming in don't want a CDL. I mean, 684 01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:23,480 they're willing to work in get that also. 685 01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:31,520 » That includes our office people, too. Just kind of piggyback on that. 686 01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:35,760 » Yes, the office girls, they take a lot of flack for the street department 687 01:02:33,359 --> 01:02:39,200 sometimes on complaints or whatever. They're kind of the front line of 688 01:02:37,599 --> 01:02:42,079 defense. >> By the time I get to them, the girls 689 01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:46,000 usually have them pretty well calmed down. 690 01:02:44,319 --> 01:02:51,520 » And I was going to bring that up too, but just moving in this hallway, Angie 691 01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:57,440 and Dam have gone above and beyond with all that they do, whether they're 692 01:02:53,599 --> 01:03:06,400 assisting the park and recot. So, I know we appreciate what what they 693 01:03:00,319 --> 01:03:12,000 do and you guys too for our convention. We have a good group of people. 694 01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:16,400 » Yeah, I uh in my whole spiel I kind of uh didn't do them as much justice as I 695 01:03:14,319 --> 01:03:24,319 probably should have, but um they are probably the most overlooked position in 696 01:03:19,119 --> 01:03:29,359 this entire city and they carry a lot of the brunt of what goes on here on dayto 697 01:03:26,319 --> 01:03:34,079 day. I don't I just want to say I probably didn't do enough justice to 698 01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:40,960 their cause as much as I did for the people that I work with in the shop 699 01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:47,440 every day. But being here, they do a lot for me, too. And I can't express how 700 01:03:44,079 --> 01:03:53,520 much they make my life easier. And they deserve everything just as much as 701 01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:58,000 everybody else. >> But they still won't let me answer a 702 01:03:55,119 --> 01:04:02,000 phone. Can I just add that they do a lot for 703 01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:05,760 the police department as well. You know, they handle some of the dog stuff when 704 01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:12,240 they come in and take care of fees and our citations and paperwork. So, and 705 01:04:09,119 --> 01:04:16,200 complaints and calls and so yeah, they they do an amazing job. 706 01:04:17,599 --> 01:04:21,079 Anybody else? 707 01:04:23,119 --> 01:04:34,680 None. Approval of the bills. Motion to approve. 708 01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:34,680 Motion and second discussion. 709 01:04:36,559 --> 01:04:39,559 Roll. 710 01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:48,599 Hi. Approve. Meeting adjourned.