1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:10,420 On Wednesday, September 2, at 904 AM, we call to order the monthly meeting of the heat-peenuous vote benefit corporation and heat-economic development corporation. 2 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:17,840 I want to start with kind of agenda item 2, which is an introduction and welcome of our newest board member, Melissa. 3 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:27,340 Melissa, I don't know if you could pay potentially introduce yourself and kind of let everybody know about your background and heat as we welcome you here to the board. 4 00:00:27,340 --> 00:00:30,260 Sure, my name is Melissa Ushard. 5 00:00:31,180 --> 00:00:33,900 I have lived in Heath since April of 2020. 6 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:35,740 I live in the Puffing Out Club. 7 00:00:36,860 --> 00:00:38,460 I do real estate, and I would say, 8 00:00:38,580 --> 00:00:40,360 when you already wanted to miss this in Heath, 9 00:00:40,580 --> 00:00:42,420 and specifically the Puffing Out Club. 10 00:00:43,780 --> 00:00:47,360 I also have background just in the restaurant 11 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:52,260 and the streets, specifically supply chain 12 00:00:52,260 --> 00:00:54,840 and doing goods and managing 13 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:02,800 And I have a daughter that just graduated from heat, and she's now among the UNT. 14 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:03,680 Excellent. 15 00:01:04,020 --> 00:01:04,840 That's not why I'm wearing. 16 00:01:06,540 --> 00:01:11,840 Well, welcome, and thank you for your service to the city and to the board's part of this. 17 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:16,980 We certainly want to thank as well, Rich, who has rolled off the board. 18 00:01:17,660 --> 00:01:21,700 And thank him for his time and service to the board as well. 19 00:01:21,780 --> 00:01:22,840 Sorry, not Rich Glenn. 20 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:24,060 I don't know. 21 00:01:24,100 --> 00:01:24,840 Rich is so cute. 22 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:29,820 I literally don't know. 23 00:01:31,780 --> 00:01:34,560 Okay, I think Len for his time to the board. 24 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:36,720 Here we are at I guess nine. 25 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:40,160 No six A.M. and I haven't had that coffee that I've mentioned this exam. 26 00:01:41,580 --> 00:01:43,020 But we want to thank Len for his time. 27 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:47,280 I know he was on it for quite a while in his contributions, especially around kind of contracts 28 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:52,820 and contract laws and his contributions and reviewing the agreement set. 29 00:01:52,820 --> 00:01:56,340 We've just recently done here with the 1880 restaurant as well. 30 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,020 So thank Glenn for his time. 31 00:01:59,740 --> 00:02:00,780 Moving on to agenda item three. 32 00:02:00,860 --> 00:02:02,260 Do we have any public comment this morning? 33 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:04,900 Okay, we have no public comment. 34 00:02:05,620 --> 00:02:08,420 Do we have any board and staff comments this morning? 35 00:02:10,500 --> 00:02:12,160 Okay, we have no board or staff comments. 36 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:14,060 Moving on to item five. 37 00:02:14,540 --> 00:02:18,460 Five A is a discussion and action regarding the approval 38 00:02:18,460 --> 00:02:20,340 of the May 19th regular meeting minutes 39 00:02:20,340 --> 00:02:22,960 in the July 21st regular meeting minutes. 40 00:02:23,860 --> 00:02:26,420 Hopefully everybody's had an opportunity to review those minutes 41 00:02:26,420 --> 00:02:28,200 before them. 42 00:02:28,500 --> 00:02:29,260 Got moved to approve. 43 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:31,520 We have a motion to approve. 44 00:02:32,140 --> 00:02:33,900 It's seconded by Rich. 45 00:02:34,860 --> 00:02:36,560 All those in favor say aye. 46 00:02:36,580 --> 00:02:36,880 Aye. 47 00:02:37,340 --> 00:02:38,220 All those opposed? 48 00:02:39,140 --> 00:02:40,280 Do we have any abstains? 49 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:42,540 OK. 50 00:02:43,300 --> 00:02:45,680 We will move forward to item 5B. 51 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:47,900 Discussion and review of the monthly fiscal year 52 00:02:47,900 --> 00:02:49,680 2526 financial report. 53 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:56,780 We had talked about this item as kind of something to have regularly in our minutes going forward. 54 00:02:57,540 --> 00:03:02,980 Hopefully all of you have had a chance to kind of take a look over the information that's here. 55 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:11,380 But this is kind of a year-to-date budget, year-to-date financial situation for both the economic development corporation and municipal benefit corporation. 56 00:03:11,380 --> 00:03:19,380 I'll pointing out to you, there's kind of a year-to-date variance to let us kind of see where we're over budget or under budget or anything along those lines as well. 57 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:24,520 The couple things that may stand out that I just kind of wanted to point out to all of you, 58 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:28,780 our telephone expense being above actually has to do with security system installation. 59 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:33,920 That was a one-time fee and that will no longer continue into this next year's budget. 60 00:03:35,180 --> 00:03:38,880 The travel and lodging, this is obviously where a little above budget there, 61 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:45,660 that has to do with bringing in some of the EDC candidates for interviews and everything else you 62 00:03:45,660 --> 00:03:49,900 can kind of see. We often have budgeted it but we don't always spend it. So that's keep 63 00:03:49,900 --> 00:03:55,040 that theme in mind as we go to approve this next budget as well. If we budget it gives us the 64 00:03:55,040 --> 00:04:02,420 ability to spend it and authorize it and we've been authorized by Council to kind of spend it 65 00:04:02,420 --> 00:04:08,020 without having to go through a lengthy budget amendment process. And so we want to make sure we have 66 00:04:08,020 --> 00:04:11,920 the room to do the things we need to do within our budget, that ultimately gets approved 67 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:18,160 by Council, and then there's kind of a secondary component of us actually making the decisions 68 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:21,380 on this board and panel to actually spend it within that budget. 69 00:04:22,340 --> 00:04:25,560 Are there any questions about any of the expenses or any aspects of this? 70 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:26,280 I do have a question. 71 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:35,400 One of the things that I guess he left, but one of the things that I think would be helpful 72 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:41,780 is to put somewhere in here, and I know it's not necessarily a budget item, but how much 73 00:04:41,780 --> 00:04:43,720 we still owe 3.05. 74 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:49,520 Somehow or another, so we can watch that, so we have an idea of what we're doing and how long 75 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:50,640 we've got to do it for. 76 00:04:50,780 --> 00:04:51,540 Yes, sir. 77 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:55,860 That would be very helpful. 78 00:04:56,020 --> 00:04:59,960 I think our annual debt right now is about 190,000 for the next couple. 79 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:09,860 A couple years, but it does escalate up, and we have a couple million that we owe on that. So show them that exact figure. I think we can definitely look to get that added. 80 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:13,180 I don't know, really word fits in here, but I think it would be. 81 00:05:13,260 --> 00:05:17,260 I think just like we have these beginning fund balances and anything fund balance, maybe we have a debt balance. 82 00:05:18,100 --> 00:05:18,340 Okay. 83 00:05:18,540 --> 00:05:18,680 Okay. 84 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:29,520 And the other one that's on here and I don't see it right now, but I can't pick this out for you. 85 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:35,480 my eyes aren't real well. But we also spend some money every year on paying off some debt. 86 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:42,860 So the debt is on here. It's 183,000. Principal and interest for 305 Lawrence and 217 Lawrence. 87 00:05:43,460 --> 00:05:51,280 And then we have a 473,000 dollar payment. It's on page 12 of your packet. Okay. It's the CO 2020. Yeah. 88 00:05:51,280 --> 00:05:59,420 Three series interest. So that's the debt on the bond. Okay. All right. So but that's every year. Right. 89 00:05:59,420 --> 00:06:01,900 That's every year. How long was that for that spot? 90 00:06:02,020 --> 00:06:04,120 I think about 20 years left on that. 91 00:06:04,380 --> 00:06:05,960 We could kind of call out how many years. 92 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:09,420 It would just be helpful for the board to know that. 93 00:06:11,500 --> 00:06:14,100 I think the board did know that. 94 00:06:15,540 --> 00:06:17,500 I appreciate that. 95 00:06:17,860 --> 00:06:19,060 It's good. 96 00:06:19,660 --> 00:06:22,380 And I think that having these in our packet every single month, 97 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:27,020 it also gives us the ability to review all the expenses and the payments that went out. 98 00:06:27,020 --> 00:06:34,600 That's kind of what that next handful of pages in our ledger packet are, right, which gives us all a little more clear visibility into into what's happening 99 00:06:35,980 --> 00:06:42,720 And it also means that we always have the budget and we have the financials kind of out of our fingertips as we're making any kind of decisions going forward 100 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:50,300 Which brings me to another question that I have I don't understand if someone in here could help me with this there and I don't see it right again 101 00:06:50,940 --> 00:06:54,420 I didn't I saw it, but I don't remember what exactly what page it was on 102 00:06:54,420 --> 00:06:59,060 because there's a lot there, but we were paying some sort of property tax. 103 00:06:59,260 --> 00:07:07,040 I assume that was for 205 and 317 from our collection there, but I didn't understand that at all. 104 00:07:07,420 --> 00:07:15,780 Yeah, so there was a property tax that was owed on 205 and 317 that was transferred to us at the time that the clothes happened. 105 00:07:15,780 --> 00:07:24,200 There has also been some disagreement with the central appraisal district, which is a... 106 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:27,500 We'll just say that it's a known open item. 107 00:07:27,860 --> 00:07:30,240 That is being worked on right now to some extent. 108 00:07:30,980 --> 00:07:33,700 We are solved on it from a go forward perspective. 109 00:07:34,260 --> 00:07:40,680 From a historical perspective, there's a question of whether or not we have certain privileges 110 00:07:43,300 --> 00:07:45,440 by right and by state statute, 111 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:50,760 versus by what the appraisal district would like to say which is by the time that they approve 112 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:51,320 the paperwork. 113 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:58,440 And so this is sitting on my to-do list as a follow-up event. 114 00:07:58,700 --> 00:08:03,320 If you had somebody on the appraisal district, you would probably have to just put and 115 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:04,140 have that up to it. 116 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:04,740 But there's nobody there. 117 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:08,580 We do not have anybody on the appraisal district anymore as they shut the city up 118 00:08:08,580 --> 00:08:09,040 if he now. 119 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:09,760 Just a thought. 120 00:08:09,900 --> 00:08:11,420 I don't know. 121 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:12,220 Thank you. 122 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:12,620 Yeah. 123 00:08:21,090 --> 00:08:22,210 Thank you for those feedback. 124 00:08:22,210 --> 00:08:24,310 Any other questions or any other questions? 125 00:08:24,510 --> 00:08:27,910 Open questions about the budget or historical financials? 126 00:08:34,590 --> 00:08:37,890 Moving on to item 5C, discussion and action regarding resolution 127 00:08:37,890 --> 00:08:42,430 2, 6, 0, 9, 0, 2, A, adopting the economic development 128 00:08:42,430 --> 00:08:46,430 corporation, the municipal benefit corporation, fiscal year 26 to 27 129 00:08:46,430 --> 00:08:46,950 budget. 130 00:08:48,090 --> 00:08:50,970 So as you may recall, as a board, we talked about some different 131 00:08:50,970 --> 00:08:52,210 priorities in different items. 132 00:08:52,810 --> 00:08:56,410 I solicited input from all board members on where they'd 133 00:08:56,410 --> 00:08:59,550 to see the budget spent or not spent. 134 00:09:00,570 --> 00:09:07,350 Part Doug and I then met and we worked through kind of some budget numbers trying to keep some of the main themes in place. 135 00:09:08,250 --> 00:09:16,890 One of the main themes was that everybody wanted to make sure that we kept dry powder available for economic development opportunities, 136 00:09:17,410 --> 00:09:20,990 that we kept the fund balances well above, you know, kind of a million dollars. 137 00:09:21,890 --> 00:09:24,950 We've managed to do that in terms of this budget that we put together. 138 00:09:26,070 --> 00:09:28,690 I don't know if we can go to the next slide. 139 00:09:32,260 --> 00:09:37,460 So as we look through some of the budgeting priorities in terms of what we put together, 140 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:43,960 this is kind of a little summary of the key themes that are different from the prior year budget. 141 00:09:44,540 --> 00:09:48,020 The first one is the monument sale kind of signage, the wayfinder signage. 142 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:52,120 We actually already proved this in a prior budget, but we're going to officially take it to Council 143 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:56,320 in this year's budget amendments, that's that 500,000 that we already approved as a board. 144 00:09:58,040 --> 00:09:59,940 We've talked about kind of increased marketing. 145 00:10:00,550 --> 00:10:08,890 Capabilities. This is things like the social media, inclusions or campaign, potentially doing that sales tax campaign to get people to spend more money. 146 00:10:09,730 --> 00:10:27,050 And he updating our collateral solicitation of business owners, you know, proposing or redesigning, you know, reserve and town center concepts. Again, just because we have it in our budget, we don't have to spend it. But this is giving us the flexibility to spend it. 147 00:10:27,730 --> 00:10:37,410 And you can see kind of the break out between the NBC and the EDC and there are some statutory rules related to that, but we're within the statutory limits on that. 148 00:10:38,310 --> 00:10:55,890 A general theme was that from a city perspective that we have an opportunity to bring, you know, well over a thousand more homes onto our trail system, but the city needs a little help with that from a trail perspective when we look at the master plan for the city and the trail plan and whatnot. 149 00:10:55,890 --> 00:11:04,390 There's a couple of key segments, and so we put in here 250 or $500,000 of funding to help with that 150 00:11:04,390 --> 00:11:09,330 trail connectivity and really trying to get, I think it's close to 15 or 1600 homes connected 151 00:11:09,330 --> 00:11:10,350 into the trail system. 152 00:11:12,790 --> 00:11:17,990 As we started looking at things like, you know, how to help with key events 153 00:11:17,990 --> 00:11:24,150 for the city, a general theme was that with the new park, they haven't necessarily budgeted for 154 00:11:25,950 --> 00:11:30,570 You know, Christmas lights and holiday and the park improvements and whatnot and as a, you know, 155 00:11:30,670 --> 00:11:32,990 Doug Bar and I kind of talked about it and worked through the numbers. 156 00:11:33,890 --> 00:11:38,970 We were thinking about attacking this not just as a, you know, kind of one off set of 157 00:11:38,970 --> 00:11:44,150 lights that get strung up and taken down, but given, doing it in a way that, on all the main venues 158 00:11:44,150 --> 00:11:48,050 in the park, they can be used for multiple events throughout the year, they could be turned 159 00:11:48,050 --> 00:11:53,570 on and off from a safety perspective, they could be controlled, they could be color changed, Doug 160 00:11:53,570 --> 00:11:56,470 had a lot of good thoughts on this as well. 161 00:11:56,830 --> 00:11:59,750 And so we put 200,000 into the budget for that. 162 00:12:02,860 --> 00:12:06,900 We heard from the park board back at our May 19th meeting 163 00:12:06,900 --> 00:12:09,440 about a fundraising event that they'd like to do. 164 00:12:09,780 --> 00:12:12,120 And the concept here was that they need some money 165 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:13,400 to kind of jumpstart that event 166 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:16,700 and that we would get repaid from the proceeds of that event. 167 00:12:17,420 --> 00:12:20,580 And so this was putting in there the kind of seed money 168 00:12:20,580 --> 00:12:22,320 to help them get that event going. 169 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:28,960 And then we can have that kind of have some stipulations associated with repayment related to that. 170 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:34,340 So while we put that into the budget and there is potentially the risk that we don't collect that back, 171 00:12:34,780 --> 00:12:39,260 that general expectation would be that that would flow out and then potentially flow back in. 172 00:12:40,380 --> 00:12:43,040 The number six, which is the path matching funds, 173 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:50,220 We were trying to think about ways we could kind of help jump start that path to point 174 00:12:50,220 --> 00:12:50,700 over the program. 175 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:56,480 As you all know, we pulled all of our city funding for the Parks Board a couple of years 176 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:58,040 ago in part because of the bond. 177 00:12:59,260 --> 00:13:02,640 So the thought here would be, and again, there are some rules on how we have to do how we 178 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:06,300 have to kind of send these funds over to them and then potentially recall them. 179 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:11,780 But the concept here was, you know, if we could create an enticement that said, say, the first 180 00:13:11,780 --> 00:13:16,940 50 people that are, you know, people or businesses that donate it towards the path fund got kind 181 00:13:16,940 --> 00:13:21,100 of an extra $5,000 kicker for any donation of $5,000 or more. 182 00:13:21,780 --> 00:13:25,840 That would really help kind of, you know, work through that list of improvements that would help 183 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:31,560 all the, all the, the trail funds, the path funds, the park improvement funds, and whatnot. 184 00:13:31,700 --> 00:13:36,700 And so, this is just kind of a kicker to help get that program going. 185 00:13:36,700 --> 00:13:46,300 We were talking about it when we were thinking about this, we potentially give them nine months or something like that to go off and get as many of these people. 186 00:13:46,500 --> 00:14:03,940 So we time limit it, we box it to $5,000 or more donations, then get this extra donation, and then the people that make the, if you say make a $5,000 donation, we would be throwing in that extra $5,000, so they get the recognition as if they made the $10,000 donation. 187 00:14:03,940 --> 00:14:06,040 And so both businesses and individuals. 188 00:14:07,860 --> 00:14:13,060 And then we have a lot of grass over at two, 17 Lawrence and there were a thought that we 189 00:14:13,060 --> 00:14:18,100 could put in some full-size goals and create another field back behind that area where 190 00:14:18,100 --> 00:14:23,900 that house was and just get more people out into that space and there's been demand for 191 00:14:23,900 --> 00:14:31,160 these fields, the fields in general are fully consumed in the evenings from my understanding. 192 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:36,160 And so if we add a couple more fields into the play and kind of kickstarter with with this 193 00:14:36,500 --> 00:14:41,340 People are actually even renting these fields, so there's an opportunity for us to again 194 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:49,940 Take a taken asset that's just sitting there that we're paying the mo and turn it into something that could be productive for the kids and families of our area 195 00:14:51,220 --> 00:14:54,080 I've been asked by two different people when 196 00:14:54,900 --> 00:14:58,200 Talking about when those were going to be there. They're just looking for 197 00:14:58,200 --> 00:14:59,860 Let's play. 198 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:19,220 We kept inside kind of a big floated maintenance item. This gives us the privilege to do more nature trails, to do exercise stations, to do improvements to the 199 00:15:19,220 --> 00:15:25,540 flexibility in this next year's budget to say, hey, let's go do something, or let's go improve 200 00:15:25,540 --> 00:15:32,120 up, improve this spot, or let's go knock down some trees, or let's go plant some trees. 201 00:15:33,140 --> 00:15:37,700 Let's go add a shade structure, anything along those lines. This gives us some flexibility 202 00:15:37,700 --> 00:15:45,400 around doing that. We've kept legal services. We'll get to this in a minute, but the 1880 203 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:52,000 field did close this past week, and so we, you know, we don't necessarily have anything 204 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:55,860 imminent that is going to use this, but we want to make sure we had the flexibility 205 00:15:55,860 --> 00:15:58,340 to engage legal as we need to. 206 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:01,720 And then things that we've already approved, we already approved the EDC Director, we've already 207 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:06,120 approved the maintenance position, and so those are just big line items that are on our budget. 208 00:16:07,820 --> 00:16:11,900 There are any questions about these budget priorities, or does anybody have anything that 209 00:16:11,900 --> 00:16:14,180 they don't like or would like to propose changing. 210 00:16:15,820 --> 00:16:18,040 I've got a couple things to say about the budget. 211 00:16:18,700 --> 00:16:22,040 Number one, as it's written right now, I cannot support it. 212 00:16:22,580 --> 00:16:30,220 I'm a fiscal conservative in many ways, and I know what happens in government enough to 213 00:16:30,220 --> 00:16:33,400 know that if you put it out there, it's going to be used. 214 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:39,960 And this is a negative budget, and I just don't believe that at this point we should be 215 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:51,000 doing negative things on a budget that we don't even, we've talked about possibly getting 216 00:16:51,000 --> 00:17:02,260 more land, which I love the idea of. We've have land that we have utilized and from 217 00:17:02,260 --> 00:17:08,900 my perspective, and I will tell you that it's a two-person perspective, because I've asked 218 00:17:08,900 --> 00:17:13,620 my wife to do the same thing. Every time I want you to drive by the city of heat to tell 219 00:17:13,620 --> 00:17:18,940 me if there's anybody in the dog park, I've not seen that. Now I will tell you that I'm 220 00:17:18,940 --> 00:17:24,340 not there all the time and that's two people and she's never seen anybody there either. 221 00:17:25,060 --> 00:17:31,520 To include I've walked the trails many times and never seen anybody out there either. So I'm 222 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:38,480 not against any of these amenities but I am saying let's slow down a little bit because we're 223 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:41,620 putting out a budget, that everyone can see, 224 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,080 and I don't want my name associated with something 225 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:45,260 that's a negative budget. 226 00:17:46,540 --> 00:17:48,540 That's just my opinion, yes, I know we've got money 227 00:17:48,540 --> 00:17:49,080 in the bank. 228 00:17:49,360 --> 00:17:51,780 I do understand that, I'm not stupid, 229 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:55,400 I can read a spreadsheet too, but, you know, 230 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:57,420 I, that's just my opinion, 231 00:17:57,620 --> 00:18:00,480 and I really have a hard time with, okay, 232 00:18:00,660 --> 00:18:03,300 now I'm not saying all this stuff has to be taken away. 233 00:18:03,380 --> 00:18:06,200 I'm just saying, whoa, that's all. 234 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:14,100 I think it's just too much, too fast, for very little return, at least in my opinion, and 235 00:18:14,100 --> 00:18:19,320 oh, by the way, I've walked on the path every day, and I really want to more path, but 236 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:24,740 I just three quarters of a million dollars for the path just seems excessive to me in one 237 00:18:24,740 --> 00:18:25,560 budget year. 238 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:26,720 That's just my opinion. 239 00:18:29,140 --> 00:18:35,480 Well, so I understand the concern, I think the part of the issue is that we've had so 240 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:48,900 So long of nothing being done, and we're kind of playing catch up in some ways, and these funds sitting here in the EDCHMEC that haven't gotten used. 241 00:18:49,660 --> 00:18:58,380 And because there's some of these projects that are ongoing and other shortfalls from my opinion, it's got to kind of why we have the funds. 242 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:08,880 And, you know, we have looked at, you know, for some other real estate and things, but that's not something that we've come up with yet. 243 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:13,100 Maybe if one for one thing is just the pricing and locations. 244 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:25,060 But, you know, I understand the concerns in the hope is that one, we're in the middle of the summer, it's the hottest time of year, but I think also we got to keep putting the word out. 245 00:19:25,060 --> 00:19:30,400 This is what the citizens keep saying they want, even though there are not many of them 246 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:35,660 are not using it, and I agree with that, but I think as we move forward in time, these 247 00:19:35,660 --> 00:19:41,320 things, particularly the trails, are going to get used more and more and more, and they 248 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:47,540 are a draw to the city of Heath and they're one of the things that bring both residents 249 00:19:47,540 --> 00:19:57,500 our futurists and businesses. So, from that perspective, again, I'm with you on spending. 250 00:19:57,800 --> 00:19:59,960 It's, you know, we can go too far. 251 00:20:00,340 --> 00:20:11,760 But again, it seems to me like we've just, we've not done some of these things for so long that we're kind of in a catch-up position. 252 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:20,220 I could tell you the like the programs, for example, I agree with you right now, like there's nobody going out there. It's been a hundred plus degrees. 253 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:29,760 When we first opened it, there were like 12 to 15 people out there, especially on Saturday mornings. I went out there on, I think it was Tuesday. 254 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:36,120 And there was another, another person out there running with their dogs and I brought my dog out. 255 00:20:36,220 --> 00:20:37,180 Suzanne, do you have a comment? 256 00:20:37,500 --> 00:20:38,900 I can't think to interact with it. 257 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:40,760 I mean, two points, seasonals. 258 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,380 We just did a post about programs like this. 259 00:20:44,540 --> 00:20:48,060 And it got so much traction and so much love. 260 00:20:48,500 --> 00:20:51,660 And a lot of people did come in and I'm so glad we have this. 261 00:20:51,660 --> 00:20:54,060 I can't wait to go out there when it gets a little cooler. 262 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:56,900 I mean, it's brutal out there right now. 263 00:20:56,900 --> 00:21:00,260 Again, I have no issues with spending the money. 264 00:21:00,540 --> 00:21:02,800 I have issues with spending it in all of us. 265 00:21:02,980 --> 00:21:07,380 There is no reason to go over our combined income right now. 266 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:12,820 We've got a million dollars on both the EDC and the NBC both. 267 00:21:13,100 --> 00:21:15,220 And we're going over budget on both of them. 268 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,720 I don't see that as a win for anybody. 269 00:21:18,940 --> 00:21:22,000 And does anybody run a business that way? 270 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:23,440 I don't believe they do. 271 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:24,560 I think they look at it. 272 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:28,960 go, yeah, we have to do some capital improvements, and I understand it at that sometimes. 273 00:21:29,740 --> 00:21:36,760 But right now, we're going to spend probably the greater majority of our budget on capital 274 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:42,520 improvements. So it's not like we're not doing anything. We're doing a hell of a lot. And 275 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:47,400 it's too much, I think, at once, in my opinion, I won't sign off on anything that's not a 276 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:53,040 best balance budget. We're still going to be able to invest a lot of money without going over 277 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:54,520 the budget, and that's my point. 278 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,180 But what do we do with those funds that are already sitting there that we don't ever spend 279 00:21:58,180 --> 00:21:58,580 them? 280 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:00,060 That's generally not a matter. 281 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:01,640 So, very valid. 282 00:22:12,910 --> 00:22:14,530 I'm collecting the sales tax revenue. 283 00:22:16,390 --> 00:22:17,810 The state allows us to do 284 00:22:20,790 --> 00:22:21,010 that. 285 00:22:21,070 --> 00:22:22,570 Two core responsibility, 286 00:22:25,950 --> 00:22:31,150 and when we talk about fiscal responsibilities, when we talk about 287 00:22:31,150 --> 00:22:39,940 I'm not going to have versus consumption tax completely makes it, unfortunately, you know, 288 00:22:40,140 --> 00:22:47,000 the city pointiniers behind on the water infrastructure, you know, so you have to play catch ups. 289 00:22:47,220 --> 00:22:51,640 So then you kind of look at sales tax and you go, okay, well, do you just run a break even? 290 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:57,860 What's the break even for? How did you get to a break even? Where did that money come from in the first place? 291 00:22:58,820 --> 00:23:11,200 So essentially, are you saying that every year that you collect, you don't want to spend a dime below what you collect at that end will turn? 292 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,860 I'm just going to put a little bit of clarity on that. 293 00:23:14,540 --> 00:23:23,740 When we talk about fiscal responsibility, as it pertains to a budget, what are we talking about when we're collecting consumption taxes for the betterment of the city? 294 00:23:23,740 --> 00:23:31,480 But then we're holding on to a certain sense of that within a year, how are we trying to 295 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:35,640 flatten the curve? Is it just on that angle cycle? Is that what you're referencing? 296 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:40,940 I'm referencing, yeah. Yes, there's going to be time for when you have a negative budget. 297 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:46,720 I understand that to spend these two million that will eventually become 3 million or whatever 298 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:51,880 as interest and things like that. But even in that, you're spending some of the interest 299 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:55,200 that you're spending all of the interest that you're earning in this budget. 300 00:23:56,900 --> 00:24:00,260 And my point is, it's not a balanced budget. 301 00:24:01,820 --> 00:24:04,440 And yes, last year we didn't have a balanced budget. 302 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:05,080 You can see it. 303 00:24:05,220 --> 00:24:06,180 We bought a bunch of land. 304 00:24:06,700 --> 00:24:09,680 There's going to be times when you're not going to have a balanced budget. 305 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:15,060 But to run down the list of priorities, and to say, I'm going to spend three quarters of 306 00:24:15,060 --> 00:24:19,140 a million dollars on the path in one year. 307 00:24:20,140 --> 00:24:24,660 Okay, sure, but that really eats up a lot of your bunch. 308 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:26,740 I just don't believe in overspending. 309 00:24:26,940 --> 00:24:28,880 I'm sorry, you're not gonna convince me. 310 00:24:29,300 --> 00:24:34,340 We can talk about it in the board can overrule me by just voting, yes, that's fine. 311 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:36,180 But I don't believe in that. 312 00:24:36,460 --> 00:24:36,940 I just don't. 313 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,760 No one's going to, no one's going to try to understand the fun of me. 314 00:24:41,260 --> 00:24:42,000 I'm just trying to explain. 315 00:24:42,220 --> 00:24:46,500 If you try it so you're basically saying, you know, if you collect or 316 00:24:49,770 --> 00:24:50,230 they actually 317 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:59,620 $4 million dollars. I'd let you have a capital on an outlay. 318 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:05,840 For instance, buying 305, or the King property that we've talked about, or whatever. I mean, you can make the 319 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:12,620 argument that the entrance to the entrance monuments are a capital outlet in this budget, the trails are a capital 320 00:25:12,620 --> 00:25:16,800 outlet. Absolutely. So we have capital. We have capital. We have the capital. 321 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:27,440 We need to finish them today, it's my point. And we're, I mean, okay, so if I look at this as a situation of, you know, a 322 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,300 knowledge, budget, and capital outlice. 323 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:30,920 That's fine. 324 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:32,260 You can call it all of that. 325 00:25:32,340 --> 00:25:35,540 But you can also say that where do you stop? 326 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:42,580 We've already talked about this path coming out of 550, whatever. 327 00:25:42,980 --> 00:25:45,460 I can't remember the name of the road. 328 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:50,480 Anyways, the point being is, well, that's not going to be finished yet. 329 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,160 So let's just go ahead and spend all the money. 330 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:54,380 That doesn't make sense to me. 331 00:25:54,380 --> 00:26:00,640 That doesn't make sense to me that okay, when I when I look at my budget over the years 332 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,600 There's things. There's times when you've overspend I get that 333 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:06,080 But 334 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:12,160 Just because we haven't spent it in the past means we need to spend it all now. Yeah 335 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:13,400 Yes, it doesn't make sense 336 00:27:02,780 --> 00:27:11,940 I also think that we're on an upward revenue that's going to continue to grow that underlying 337 00:27:11,940 --> 00:27:13,140 amount that we're getting. 338 00:27:14,360 --> 00:27:19,980 And I, again, I do understand, and I just want to have the discussion too, so I'm not 339 00:27:19,980 --> 00:27:26,560 trying to, absolutely, convince you about what I want to understand, but I think these things 340 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:32,860 need to get done as quickly as possible, and that we're in a position to get them done in 341 00:27:32,860 --> 00:27:40,600 it. Well, with the moves the city is making, so I would make a motion to approve the budget 342 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:41,380 as it stands. 343 00:27:41,380 --> 00:27:42,080 You 344 00:27:48,670 --> 00:27:57,710 know, the one thing that I think is really, really important that this body be reminded of, right? 345 00:27:57,910 --> 00:28:03,430 And you guys are going to exactly what you're supposed to be like dead and then send it to the council, right? 346 00:28:04,110 --> 00:28:07,410 And so, so that's great. I'm low extended diet. 347 00:28:08,510 --> 00:28:13,510 The one thing that I want to remind everybody is what is your child, you know, what's your child? 348 00:28:13,510 --> 00:28:19,690 And your charter is, is to bring economic development, right? 349 00:28:20,170 --> 00:28:23,030 And you're supposed to work to bring jobs, right? 350 00:28:23,210 --> 00:28:26,130 Bring in more sales tax revenue, right? 351 00:28:26,130 --> 00:28:28,810 And bring in better services for the community. 352 00:28:29,070 --> 00:28:31,790 So it's kind of like multi-common, okay? 353 00:28:32,830 --> 00:28:37,970 But the real key term is, is that your real mechanism is invested. 354 00:28:40,410 --> 00:28:47,970 So as we compare that to the private sector, well, I can go invest in another branch or another division. 355 00:28:48,910 --> 00:28:55,070 Well, it's not always going to be where I don't tap into, you know, reserve or whatever. 356 00:28:55,570 --> 00:28:58,250 I'm investing in something that has to return. 357 00:28:58,750 --> 00:29:02,990 I think what I hear you say in which it is, I'm not sure that there's a great return on lights. 358 00:29:03,550 --> 00:29:05,550 I don't know whether there's a great return on trails. 359 00:29:05,550 --> 00:29:10,810 And I think that that's a really hard thing because it gets very subjective, right? 360 00:29:11,890 --> 00:29:16,530 So I was in Napa this last weekend and I got a text from one of the cows in the 361 00:29:16,530 --> 00:29:20,590 reverse that was at the dog park and she was so excited because she was like there's five 362 00:29:20,590 --> 00:29:26,030 cows here, there's eight dogs and I typically go on Saturdays and I get excited every 363 00:29:26,030 --> 00:29:29,630 time I go there's never done one time that I've ever gone to the dog park and there 364 00:29:29,630 --> 00:29:31,130 were people that were dogs. 365 00:29:31,650 --> 00:29:36,170 I try to hide myself and work based on what can happen, I don't know if I don't think it's what it was. 366 00:29:36,470 --> 00:29:42,050 But it's great. So I hear you, it's been a hundred and ninety degrees, it's probably not utilized. 367 00:29:43,610 --> 00:29:51,730 In fact, the staff and I have this conversation numerously, that's why we're trying to work on getting our ordinance in place for fees, for food trucks. 368 00:29:52,430 --> 00:29:59,430 I think that's why in your budget, you guys are talking about doing some additional soccer goals and stuff. 369 00:30:00,620 --> 00:30:11,920 For China, for the other side of the road. But I do overwhelmingly hear from people that they feel like this is the first time ever, that we're getting all of these amenities. 370 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:20,340 And some of them, I can't even say claim, when this town's in a park happy before I got here. I wish that they were building towers and drilling walls before I got here. 371 00:30:20,580 --> 00:30:28,700 But I'm not glad that they had anything as beautiful and big support of it. I get excited every evening when I come out here and it's still 98 degrees. 372 00:30:28,700 --> 00:30:43,520 the typical courts are completely full. And so again, how is that an investment? Well, there's two sides of that. One is, every time people go to a time thumb, they're buying your loader. 373 00:30:44,380 --> 00:30:58,500 Well, let's see and send it to go to a time thumb versus going to grow. If we don't aggressively invest, I pass for over every Sunday, and I think to myself, if I'm going to a time thumb, I don't have a little bit more. 374 00:30:58,500 --> 00:31:01,520 rather than my sales tax dollar stay within the city. 375 00:31:01,860 --> 00:31:04,840 So then that way we can have more activities and get out more things. 376 00:31:05,780 --> 00:31:07,420 So there's a balance, it's my plan. 377 00:31:07,860 --> 00:31:13,240 We got to be really careful to your complaint on budget strategy. 378 00:31:13,700 --> 00:31:17,580 But we also have to be very careful on not looking at it for what it is. 379 00:31:17,940 --> 00:31:23,680 Consumption tax is being uploaded to this body to make proper recommendations to the council. 380 00:31:24,580 --> 00:31:33,120 And the Council's initiative is to figure out how we can make the city more vibrant, more viable, more 381 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:38,060 investable for businesses, and you have a lack of material system. 382 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:43,500 And I'm not saying I 100% and a 100% and a 100% and a lack of knowledge with all these items, 383 00:31:44,420 --> 00:31:45,220 but I like the lights. 384 00:31:45,740 --> 00:31:47,980 When I saw the light budget, I had asked a couple of questions. 385 00:31:47,980 --> 00:31:59,060 And then I really sat back and I came up here five days ago in the morning and it was pitched up and I thought to myself, okay, now I need to see it with the amenity lights. 386 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:03,140 So then the staff had it on with amenity lights and six a. 387 00:32:03,820 --> 00:32:06,980 And then I started thinking, well, we would go to do an event. 388 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,800 We, I sat through the park for a budget, for example. 389 00:32:11,300 --> 00:32:14,480 And they were cutting because they had to cut, they had to cut a lot. 390 00:32:14,940 --> 00:32:16,460 And life is wonderful. 391 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:21,280 And so when you start thinking about what you guys are really trying to do, and again, it took 392 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,620 was a little long but for me, I think, turning it down the earth right. 393 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,360 I started really wanting, I can see the vision. 394 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,780 And I really think that that can be very vital. 395 00:32:30,900 --> 00:32:31,720 It's a big investment. 396 00:32:32,620 --> 00:32:34,080 That could be really cool. 397 00:32:35,340 --> 00:32:38,500 So I keep looking at these different items and I say, what are those triangles? 398 00:32:39,660 --> 00:32:40,620 Well, you know, I agree. 399 00:32:40,620 --> 00:32:54,500 Let's be fist-loosed on for them, and let's stay super tight on this, but I too also hear parents that are concerned when they drive past kids that are driving down by 50 on bicycle. 400 00:32:55,240 --> 00:33:00,280 And they're doing that because we created a 13 million dollar car that they want to go hang out with. 401 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:07,020 So if you see what I'm saying, this is a real, this is a real balancing act that we've got a really thinking about, and then I'll end one minutes. 402 00:33:07,980 --> 00:33:09,520 Our goal is to bring in business. 403 00:33:09,820 --> 00:33:13,980 In fact, we've made major investment as you stated across the street. 404 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,780 One to protect the land from the state. 405 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,920 Secondly, we had a codified town circle, a district in 2021. 406 00:33:22,060 --> 00:33:26,040 So I'd have to stand on the shoulder of giants, and they had to try and make that happen. 407 00:33:26,380 --> 00:33:30,260 So with the town circle, we're still trying to figure out who can we get. 408 00:33:30,260 --> 00:33:36,580 to come in, and what's the entice? Well, we've got a very hard father sitting. We don't have a fully connected 409 00:33:36,580 --> 00:33:43,740 trail system. The list kind of goes on and on and on. And so the more that we can amenetize and make it 410 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:48,880 the time I tell you, the use of beautification. It's no different than painting this, 411 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:54,000 it's why I'm not looking for donors. And I remember people were like, don't paint it, 412 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:59,500 They looked terrible, we used our flower beds, don't do flower beds, there's really 413 00:33:59,500 --> 00:34:03,580 spending money wasting money, nobody's going to donate, these are all the voices that 414 00:34:03,580 --> 00:34:09,500 I heard during this time, I was able to raise all the money, and then I literally get more 415 00:34:09,500 --> 00:34:15,380 compliments about how beautiful city hall looks, then almost anything else, which is kind 416 00:34:15,380 --> 00:34:15,820 of common. 417 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:21,280 So all I'm going to do is just make sure that you guys are thinking in terms of why are we 418 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,000 here, or we try to accomplish, 419 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,320 I don't necessarily disagree with some of your statements. 420 00:34:26,140 --> 00:34:30,300 But two of which is say, hey, you won't be sitting 421 00:34:30,300 --> 00:34:32,320 at this stage in a perfect way. 422 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:33,980 So I'm different than I will. 423 00:34:34,260 --> 00:34:37,060 I'll be gone guys, if I had to get internal and so 424 00:34:37,060 --> 00:34:38,640 so you could keep me out of here. 425 00:34:39,900 --> 00:34:43,300 So there is a level of responsibility 426 00:34:43,300 --> 00:34:47,660 that I would encourage you guys that do as much as you can 427 00:34:47,660 --> 00:34:50,900 that you feel comfortable with to make those recommendations 428 00:34:50,900 --> 00:34:56,760 Council because you're time here and that would be where I'm going to go. 429 00:34:57,220 --> 00:34:58,120 Thank you. 430 00:34:58,380 --> 00:34:59,420 Thank you Mr. Mayor. 431 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:09,580 At the very end here, let you know that I'm all four. I walk on those trails every day and I almost lose my life, almost every day, because they're not fully there. 432 00:35:10,380 --> 00:35:28,840 I need you guys to understand that. I am not saying we shouldn't spend money. I'm saying we should do it physically responsible, because I lived in the government for 20 years and I saw the waste that goes on and such like that. And if the money's there, oh, well, we got to spend it. We haven't done that in the EDC yet. 433 00:35:29,540 --> 00:35:33,980 And I fully agree with you there and we actually understand we finished the year 434 00:35:34,420 --> 00:35:38,920 Better than our budget last year and we didn't think we were that at all before that as well. Yeah 435 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:43,960 Yeah, actually last year we even finished a better than the budget even though we paid off a property 436 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:50,120 We're not I understand but I also understand that we can go back to council if we need to to amend a budget if we decide 437 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:56,960 You know what we do really need to do that so that's my point. I've said my piece you guys vote the way you want 438 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,100 I'm just telling you, that's the way I feel about it. 439 00:35:59,700 --> 00:36:00,720 I'll say kind of two things. 440 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:04,500 Improving quality of life is also one of our core components. 441 00:36:06,580 --> 00:36:08,660 The information that I collected from everybody said 442 00:36:08,660 --> 00:36:11,580 that they wanted to keep fund balances over a million dollars 443 00:36:11,580 --> 00:36:14,400 in each of our funds, we're keeping 1.75 million 444 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,240 and one of them and two million and the other one. 445 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,660 And so we're almost double what people had even said 446 00:36:18,660 --> 00:36:20,940 that they wanted us to those thresholds. 447 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,140 And with that, we have a motion to approve the budget 448 00:36:23,140 --> 00:36:24,960 on the floor for Mr. Davenport. 449 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:25,860 Do we have a second? 450 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,240 Oh, I guess I have to vote on this now. 451 00:36:32,220 --> 00:36:36,620 I had another comment on this, but do we have to go ahead? 452 00:36:36,740 --> 00:36:37,920 Do I have to go ahead? 453 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:39,000 Do you have an open discussion? 454 00:36:39,220 --> 00:36:40,520 OK, I'll reopen discussion. 455 00:36:41,020 --> 00:36:41,140 Go ahead. 456 00:36:41,140 --> 00:36:44,700 Yeah, I wanted to, sorry, coming in very late at this. 457 00:36:44,780 --> 00:36:45,780 Clearly, we have a motion. 458 00:36:47,260 --> 00:36:50,380 But regarding the budget, I understand 459 00:36:50,380 --> 00:36:52,740 and agree with many of the points made here. 460 00:36:53,420 --> 00:36:57,940 And I think we're in a unique position as this body, 461 00:36:57,940 --> 00:37:04,760 like government perhaps were, you know, once that is in the butt, you know, John Q. 462 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:11,620 Citizen doesn't have any say once that happens. Whereas we can, I look at it like 463 00:37:12,780 --> 00:37:20,180 not to exceed and that's kind of how I operate in my world. And so if I say, you know, 464 00:37:20,220 --> 00:37:25,380 man, 500,000, I mean, when I first saw that that part, I'm like, I don't know what signage you're 465 00:37:25,380 --> 00:37:30,580 talking about, that's a $500,000 sign, but I've never built a monument sign, so I don't know 466 00:37:30,580 --> 00:37:38,540 but I just thought, man, okay, not to exceed five, so by golly, I'm going to do my part to really 467 00:37:38,540 --> 00:37:44,080 drill down on that and look if we can get that thing built for $395,000, fantastic. 468 00:37:44,780 --> 00:37:48,500 The same thing with the lighting, and I'll speak to that because that's kind of in my wheel 469 00:37:48,500 --> 00:37:55,800 House is, I mean, $200,000 to light up the park seems like a lot, but we did take into 470 00:37:55,800 --> 00:38:02,300 account the entirety of this building as well as the park, and we even touched on the idea 471 00:38:02,300 --> 00:38:04,640 of the new DPS building. 472 00:38:05,740 --> 00:38:06,580 And so, and the programs. 473 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:07,640 And the programs. 474 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:14,560 Trying to like, what can we, if we, you know, so, and again, we're going to drill down on 475 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:20,000 and we're going to do that as viscally responsible as we can. 476 00:38:20,820 --> 00:38:23,880 It is not going to cost $200,000. 477 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,180 It might be $195, but it will not be too much. 478 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,960 And for $195, I want to get as much coverage as possible. 479 00:38:32,220 --> 00:38:34,260 We're not going to just blow out the pickleball court. 480 00:38:34,740 --> 00:38:36,020 It's not going to be like that. 481 00:38:37,460 --> 00:38:40,660 So that's my two cents on the overall thing. 482 00:38:40,660 --> 00:38:48,720 But I think, like I said, we have a unique position where we can have the in say on that 483 00:38:48,720 --> 00:38:54,860 dollar that is spent, verse, you know, but we've already got, and we know the, yes, we can 484 00:38:54,860 --> 00:39:01,260 go back to Council at times and ask for things, but that's just, it's always, you know, let's 485 00:39:01,260 --> 00:39:09,160 get the permission slip in advance and work within that and do our part to just handle 486 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,060 that money is best we can. 487 00:39:13,460 --> 00:39:14,380 Thank you, Mr. Berkeley. 488 00:39:16,100 --> 00:39:17,580 So with that, I'll move back into you. 489 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,440 We have a motion to approve the budget for Mr. 490 00:39:19,620 --> 00:39:20,100 Davenport. 491 00:39:20,720 --> 00:39:21,820 Do we have a second? 492 00:39:24,910 --> 00:39:26,370 We have a second from Melissa. 493 00:39:27,130 --> 00:39:28,890 All those in favor say aye. 494 00:39:30,630 --> 00:39:31,410 All those opposed? 495 00:39:31,670 --> 00:39:31,850 Aye. 496 00:39:32,690 --> 00:39:37,430 So we've got the motion will carry forward to one with an approved budget. 497 00:39:37,430 --> 00:39:49,610 And I think, Rich, everybody has heard your thoughts related to being intentional about what we do and making sure that we don't just do it for the sake of doing it. 498 00:39:50,650 --> 00:39:59,430 I think we need to keep in mind, utmost mind, the value that whatever we do is returning to the citizens. 499 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:08,260 The opportunity to cost it may or may not have related to future economic development opportunities. 500 00:40:09,180 --> 00:40:14,840 Thank you, everybody, for doing that budget. 501 00:40:15,100 --> 00:40:19,960 We'll now go to Council and Council will either weigh in on that or they will send it back to us and 502 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:25,900 remand it to us or make modifications as well. So we'll see where that ends up. 503 00:40:25,900 --> 00:40:38,380 Moving on to item 5E update discussion and action on the economic development agreement and sorry 5D update discussion and action on the economic development agreement and sales contract with Tributor Food and Beverage. 504 00:40:38,860 --> 00:40:40,400 That's the 1880 project. 505 00:40:41,300 --> 00:40:45,140 So I'm pleased to kind of let everybody know that this deal signed this past week. 506 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:52,200 We closed at the title company and I think there's another slide or two on this one. 507 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:59,980 But possibly, okay, so we will, I'll bring back to you the next meeting, just a reminder 508 00:40:59,980 --> 00:41:03,720 of exactly what we all approved as part of that deal. 509 00:41:04,140 --> 00:41:08,520 So the land deal, part went through, they're planning to bring to planning and zoning, 510 00:41:08,660 --> 00:41:11,140 I think within the next couple of weeks for approval. 511 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:16,700 Their hope is to have that place fully built in under a year from right now, having 512 00:41:16,700 --> 00:41:22,040 haven't spoken with Mr. Dicca and his partners. 513 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,640 So they are well under the way under architectural drawings. 514 00:41:26,820 --> 00:41:31,560 They've been meeting with Mr. King up at the city office as well and kind of reviewing some 515 00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:33,560 of those things and getting preliminary feedback on that. 516 00:41:33,700 --> 00:41:36,280 They've got all kinds of stuff being done there. 517 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:41,980 There's some stuff related to the gas lines that's being coordinated with the city as well. 518 00:41:41,980 --> 00:41:50,980 As you may all recall, we had a component of our incentive agreement that includes a payment towards that gas line as well. 519 00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:57,440 So on a positive note, that's also kind of an interesting one from a budget perspective. I'll just kind of add. 520 00:41:58,060 --> 00:42:08,360 So we are, I think our net proceeds are 497,000 dollars coming in after closing costs, which is obviously a nice piece of money. 521 00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:17,580 We do have costs that will go out over the course of this year, but those costs under the current modeling are not the 497,000. 522 00:42:18,100 --> 00:42:22,320 Some of that will kick in on the following fiscal year and things along those lines. 523 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:31,640 So, there's these weird timing things that we don't always put into the budget that also might create a couple hundred thousand dollars shift on our finances. 524 00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:41,660 And as part of our new kind of every month financial review, we'll be real-time able to kind of watch this and understand what expenses have hit, 525 00:42:41,720 --> 00:42:49,340 where are we, what's coming up and make much better, I think, real-time decisions related to how we spend and how we approve things. 526 00:42:51,020 --> 00:42:58,840 I don't have any action on that one. So moving on to item 5E, update and discussion regarding sales tax reporting collection and consulting services. 527 00:42:59,620 --> 00:43:03,020 I just kind of wanted to do a quick little follow up on this. 528 00:43:03,720 --> 00:43:09,880 We are doing a kind of breakout meeting with Mr. Alexander to review some of the proposals 529 00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:14,240 and we'll come back with a recommendation related to these. 530 00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:20,340 Mr. Lane also met with Mr. Alexander to go through kind of those top merchants that he 531 00:43:20,340 --> 00:43:26,940 talked about and they identified some potential gaps where some of the biggest online 532 00:43:26,940 --> 00:43:29,580 and retailers have never paid sales tax to heat. 533 00:43:30,420 --> 00:43:32,920 And so that's being looked at as well, 534 00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,620 as potentially an opportunity to collect. 535 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,520 We're without a contingent collection agency right now. 536 00:43:39,580 --> 00:43:42,420 So there's kind of a question of who do we give that business to? 537 00:43:42,540 --> 00:43:45,100 And I think we want to be smart about that. 538 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:49,320 And so Mr. Alexander is kind of setting up and lining up 539 00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:51,680 some of those meetings for us to figure that out and make sure 540 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:55,340 that whoever we pass it off to since we did the work on that one. 541 00:43:55,340 --> 00:43:59,280 we don't necessarily just hand off everything that's associated with that. 542 00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,500 There are any questions about this. 543 00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:07,100 Oh, Mr. Davenport also had, do you want to kind of explain what you were thinking in? 544 00:44:07,240 --> 00:44:11,240 Well yeah, it's not, I don't know if it's flushed it out exactly, but when we're talking 545 00:44:11,240 --> 00:44:18,140 about these issues, David talked about the fact that when you don't online in particular 546 00:44:18,860 --> 00:44:23,380 that it doesn't always come up with a heath, and sometimes it doesn't allow you to 547 00:44:23,380 --> 00:44:30,360 Or even I was on the phone two weeks ago with a vendor trying to order something and they 548 00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,900 They were like a high all things going to take it and it did actually, but 549 00:44:33,900 --> 00:44:43,380 Point being if we put something possibly in the newsletter that goes out to the to the community saying hey 550 00:44:43,380 --> 00:44:45,840 We've set up a new 551 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:46,960 email address 552 00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:54,880 Any time you see this happening forward that to the city and we start collecting all of those 553 00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:59,980 of any time that he does not on that name as the city. 554 00:45:00,140 --> 00:45:11,200 Then we can start to see and reach out and, you know, that way it's coming in from the people that are here, and that may give us some insight as well to things that we would never find. 555 00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:20,140 So that was kind of my ideas, you know, in, you know, the message from Mayor or whatever, having something that's set up like that that goes out and then get all the citizens and he's to help us. 556 00:45:21,580 --> 00:45:26,180 And I think that that also kind of ties into that bigger sales tax collection effort, right? 557 00:45:26,180 --> 00:45:33,860 So hopefully getting maybe the city to start pushing off kind of a shop-heath shop-local 558 00:45:33,860 --> 00:45:39,240 makes sure it says heath online in some of the social media posts, maybe even in some 559 00:45:39,240 --> 00:45:44,120 of the city messages, maybe in the recap messages, the council member to put, you know, 560 00:45:44,220 --> 00:45:53,640 we just really kind of start pushing the member to make sure it says heath, 561 00:45:57,930 --> 00:45:58,530 you know, we 562 00:45:58,530 --> 00:46:04,610 I can tell you that one way to change it, so if it's helpful to post it in there, I'm not. 563 00:46:04,610 --> 00:46:08,710 Absolutely would be helpful, because we have a very strong belief that when it's left 564 00:46:08,710 --> 00:46:18,290 saying for me, it does not end up in heat. People tell us otherwise, but we don't all necessarily agree with them. 565 00:46:18,810 --> 00:46:19,630 Happy to do that. 566 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:22,720 Be great. 567 00:46:23,460 --> 00:46:26,300 Post away and Suzanne, I think can help create some graphics. 568 00:46:26,300 --> 00:46:33,800 And if you guys watch and monitor our socials, it's Tia for you to share easily, and we're 569 00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:37,900 somewhere hopeful when our ambassadors onboard share our information. 570 00:46:38,940 --> 00:46:43,840 It's, you know, necessarily see it in the box, but in the Himalayas, we've got a lot of 571 00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:49,040 us on our city of association, but your voice behind it is priceless. 572 00:46:50,980 --> 00:46:51,500 Excellent. 573 00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:52,360 Thank you. 574 00:46:52,540 --> 00:46:54,320 So we have kind of a TV on this. 575 00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:58,140 It's going to be a breakout board meeting or a breakout meeting and then we'll keep going. 576 00:46:58,260 --> 00:47:01,740 Hopefully have a more formal update on this at the next meeting. 577 00:47:03,380 --> 00:47:06,860 Item 5F, update discussion and action regarding city of heat, entrance, monument and 578 00:47:06,860 --> 00:47:07,800 wayfinder system. 579 00:47:08,140 --> 00:47:09,020 Mr. Davenport. 580 00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:10,020 Yeah. 581 00:47:11,100 --> 00:47:15,200 So, Jeff and I, can you go to the next one, the original? 582 00:47:15,660 --> 00:47:16,080 Yeah. 583 00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:16,480 There you go. 584 00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:23,960 So, Jeff and I have been working on this and we have, again, tried to value 585 00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:31,060 and you're trying to get the costs down, trying to figure out what we can do, what issues 586 00:47:31,060 --> 00:47:38,320 there are with this original design, how we can potentially update it a little bit. 587 00:47:39,140 --> 00:47:47,960 So we've not put anything out to any kind of bids yet have not even sent anything to potential 588 00:47:49,140 --> 00:47:56,620 contractors, because we have been working through the engineering and the underlying issues. 589 00:47:58,240 --> 00:48:04,060 So in this design, for example, you know, we've got that sale that you can kind of see that 590 00:48:04,060 --> 00:48:13,200 secure that's the 50 foot tall piece. It is a huge wind load. And so the foundation here was 591 00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:19,900 outrageous. So we started looking at redesign how we could change that. Still get the effect, 592 00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:26,060 but without catching all that wind and reduce our costs. And so some of the things we've 593 00:48:26,060 --> 00:48:32,940 looked at. So now, if you would switch it to the next slide there, it's not, no, sorry, 594 00:48:32,940 --> 00:48:43,200 go back to the, there you go. So, this is some of, this is where we're headed. Getting 595 00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:51,760 away from the stone structure, because there's a lot of issues when you go 40 feet tall 596 00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:56,860 with stone, cracks, and over time issues. 597 00:48:57,860 --> 00:49:04,480 This is a very, what's sort of looking for. 598 00:49:05,380 --> 00:49:09,820 Well, it is multiple pieces that are easily replaced 599 00:49:09,820 --> 00:49:11,440 if there's ever an issue. 600 00:49:12,420 --> 00:49:16,020 And this is similar facing that is used 601 00:49:16,020 --> 00:49:18,640 on modern buildings today. 602 00:49:19,720 --> 00:49:28,640 And when we started putting together what is the book that will go out to potential guys to construct this, 603 00:49:29,420 --> 00:49:39,400 the materials are, you know, we put in there things like, you know, cannot be a proprietary system that can only be purchased from this one company. 604 00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:44,820 It has to be something universal. So that, you know, 20 years from now, you know, 605 00:49:45,660 --> 00:49:50,260 Lightening strikes a piece of it or a car runs into or something, we could pull that panel off, 606 00:49:50,460 --> 00:49:52,060 panelized, that was what I was trying to think of earlier. 607 00:49:52,860 --> 00:49:54,900 Pull that panel off and replace it. 608 00:49:56,060 --> 00:49:59,980 So a lot of this is aluminum, the base structure. 609 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:08,220 Major is a slightly different material. But you can see the effect. And I think going to this more sleep design, 610 00:50:08,380 --> 00:50:15,520 I think it'll hold up better over time as a monument to the city. Now, this is a AI rendering. 611 00:50:16,500 --> 00:50:21,880 The one thing that Jeff said, because he's not here, he's like, make sure they know we're removing the cleat, 612 00:50:22,220 --> 00:50:29,020 which is the kind of the gold thing on the far right to the of Heath. It's actually like a boat cleat. 613 00:50:29,540 --> 00:50:34,880 That was in the original design and we were like nobody can tell what it is anyway 614 00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:42,220 It's an expensive item that doesn't make any sense could be a heavy, you know, look like a big-andle up there. So 615 00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:45,960 Well, exactly 616 00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:49,420 There was a question 617 00:50:49,420 --> 00:50:51,440 I don't know if I have part of it, we're going to have fires. 618 00:50:52,720 --> 00:50:53,880 I don't know if I'm going to have fires. 619 00:50:54,380 --> 00:50:54,700 Yeah. 620 00:50:55,380 --> 00:50:57,400 Yeah, no. 621 00:50:57,700 --> 00:50:59,040 So there's been all kinds of questions. 622 00:50:59,280 --> 00:50:59,560 It was over there. 623 00:50:59,660 --> 00:51:01,500 It was like, was that water going to be coming out as a fire? 624 00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:01,860 Yeah. 625 00:51:02,500 --> 00:51:03,740 So no, none of that. 626 00:51:04,340 --> 00:51:12,000 But so trying to make this a more timeless, sleek feature that will stand the test of time. 627 00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:18,540 The rails that you see there, there's a couple of different iterations for the quote-unquote 628 00:51:18,540 --> 00:51:23,580 sale, that's not necessarily the final design, but this we just wanted to show everybody 629 00:51:23,580 --> 00:51:29,660 where we're heading, make sure everybody's on board with it, did not want it to look too much 630 00:51:29,660 --> 00:51:35,540 like a lighthouse, but you still get that effect. But I mean, it's funny because when we came 631 00:51:35,540 --> 00:51:40,640 to this, it we were like, okay, the guys that are boaters, the guys are sailors, they're going to 632 00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:44,900 see the sale, they're going to see the lighthouseer, people who don't are not, and that's great 633 00:51:44,900 --> 00:51:49,020 because they're just going to go all like it's a cool entry monument and it makes a lot of sense. 634 00:51:49,960 --> 00:52:02,280 But we're looking at, now this shows all solar, again, we're looking at how we could potentially use solar that is not in something that's necessarily going to end up being there. 635 00:52:02,420 --> 00:52:11,680 But we're trying to figure that out, obviously LED, we've the vents along the top, our rates, and enough of an angle, 636 00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:17,220 which is something that's different, so try and keep birds from being able to nest or even sit 637 00:52:17,220 --> 00:52:26,020 there. So we're working through this process in a very detailed fashion to try and get to something 638 00:52:26,020 --> 00:52:35,960 in the end that we can lay out very clearly and have it 90% pre-engineered so that we are not spending 639 00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:56,680 a ton of money getting it re-engineered by somebody, and we're trying to get it in such a way that we can put it out in packages that keep the costs low and potentially low enough where we can avoid some of the required municipal issues that when you get into giant payments. 640 00:52:56,680 --> 00:53:06,800 So that's kind of our idea, this is where we're at, I've got about five packets that are 641 00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:12,860 about, but he went from 30 to 100 pages long at this point of engineering and stuff, 642 00:53:14,420 --> 00:53:18,280 but we're still working through the detail and trying to get it all down to a final. 643 00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:22,680 So that's the update of anybody has any comments on what they see here. 644 00:53:22,720 --> 00:53:23,440 Please let me know. 645 00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:27,280 Is that rendering set on a particular spot? 646 00:53:28,220 --> 00:53:30,300 So there's, well, it's, no. 647 00:53:32,380 --> 00:53:38,440 We put in the location they've supposed to be at Ridge Road and Chandler's. 648 00:53:39,980 --> 00:53:43,400 And it rendered it like that, so it's clearly not correct. 649 00:53:44,540 --> 00:53:51,080 And, you know, A.I.S. sometimes it doesn't, it just would not put it in the right perspective 650 00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:56,300 or a location that looks right, but that it is the idea is that it's going to be where 651 00:53:56,300 --> 00:54:00,840 we've discussed all along their own road right before we get to the 652 00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:06,360 chambers entry on that on the right side as well and on the right that the city 653 00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:11,400 already owns. In your packet on the page 38 there's a rest of the actual location 654 00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:17,100 of the city on it. 30, 7, 3, 8. And again this would be the hope is that this 655 00:54:17,100 --> 00:54:25,400 be our first, and that we can duplicate this in other locations at the entry points to the city. 656 00:54:32,900 --> 00:54:36,300 So you can see it from both directions coming down. 657 00:54:36,500 --> 00:54:40,800 So it's right before the field, like if you kind of think of where that field is, I think 658 00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:47,200 Rockwell actually owns that field kind of, it's actually on the spot kind of between the 659 00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:53,960 Chandler's route and the little, their service truck, their service truck. 660 00:54:53,980 --> 00:54:54,200 Yeah, yeah. 661 00:54:54,740 --> 00:54:54,900 Yeah. 662 00:54:55,260 --> 00:54:56,900 That's the best route about that. 663 00:55:00,850 --> 00:55:05,890 And it's a straight away, so, hopefully, cars shouldn't be running into it. 664 00:55:07,250 --> 00:55:14,830 In 18 years, I'm not aware of a car going up into that spot, but that just means that there's 18 years ahead that it could. 665 00:55:16,170 --> 00:55:20,010 Well, as soon as there's something there, there's something there. 666 00:55:20,030 --> 00:55:26,550 Yeah, and we did talk about, you know, possible stones or plants. 667 00:55:26,550 --> 00:55:45,010 That wouldn't help protect it, if you will, but like the trees behind it, you wouldn't put, I don't remember on these old drawings exactly what they were, but we looked at it, and they were still too big, because they're going to hide the sun and why they put them behind there, I don't know. 668 00:55:45,010 --> 00:55:45,990 So 669 00:55:51,460 --> 00:56:03,660 we also, keep in mind the structure itself is roughly 40 feet tall, on the original drawings, the sail is 50 feet tall, the mayor said he had like a 200 feet tall. 670 00:56:03,820 --> 00:56:07,420 We haven't figured out how that gets there yet, but... 671 00:56:07,420 --> 00:56:07,920 She's nodding. 672 00:56:11,140 --> 00:56:12,920 The camera's not picking that up. 673 00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:25,140 Yeah, but I think it's obviously, I think this is something that will last a very long time 674 00:56:25,140 --> 00:56:32,180 and that will make a statement and that you see when you're coming into the city. 675 00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:39,260 And so I'm pleased with the direction we're heading, but it's open to the input. 676 00:56:39,260 --> 00:56:39,880 I 677 00:56:42,730 --> 00:56:45,010 mean, I always say, I love that you guys are picking it. 678 00:56:57,010 --> 00:56:58,250 So there's a long time you have a 679 00:57:30,380 --> 00:57:31,640 lot of time to cheer you up. 680 00:57:31,980 --> 00:57:39,200 I've never seen a fan of this, and now I know it's there, and I know it's there, and it's just not a statement. 681 00:57:39,820 --> 00:57:43,700 So I'm excited that you guys should put this on. 682 00:57:43,860 --> 00:57:49,380 If you have one question about it, and by the way, thank you for all the work you did, 683 00:57:49,420 --> 00:57:51,760 because I know it's been a lot, so thank you, it looks great. 684 00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:57,260 But my question for you is, and the out going out, 685 00:57:57,260 --> 00:58:02,640 Is it going to say like something like thanks for visiting heat or is it going to say the same heat Texas? 686 00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:08,260 We so it's not said yet. We have we have we have rendered it multiple different ways 687 00:58:09,020 --> 00:58:15,000 It seems that it is the cleanest and looks the best just saying just to say he 688 00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:21,000 Even the symbol that you know on the old version is the circle up on the tower itself 689 00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:24,040 It just it starts to look cluttered and and 690 00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:29,900 different when you do it. It's clean or so I think that's probably how it's going to be on the other side as well. 691 00:58:35,860 --> 00:58:47,340 Appreciate it. And that kind of extended to see where this goes. I know there were some questions about having to get the city involved at that kind of at some point here in the near future to make sure we meet 692 00:58:47,340 --> 00:58:55,360 procurement rules given the size of the project. But I also know that you guys are working on cost engineering it and kind of floating it out to 693 00:58:55,360 --> 00:59:02,340 figure out if there's any other kind of modifications before we put it out to it, so appreciate 694 00:59:02,340 --> 00:59:06,900 all the efforts on that and I would say people have comments on the overall design and 695 00:59:06,900 --> 00:59:11,380 don't want to kind of talk about it here, feel free to reach out to Jeff and Bart and send 696 00:59:11,380 --> 00:59:11,800 feedback. 697 00:59:12,260 --> 00:59:16,480 They've got a handful of other kinds of design ideas and things like that that they probably 698 00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:21,480 can share with you as well if you're interested in kind of seeing more and getting more involved 699 00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:21,940 in this. 700 00:59:23,540 --> 00:59:28,700 I'll see, it's the first time that I'm seeing it, and I think it was a very cool thing. 701 00:59:32,070 --> 00:59:32,870 Absolutely exciting. 702 00:59:34,990 --> 00:59:39,530 That moves us onto item 5G update discussion, action regarding the reserve and HEDC on property 703 00:59:39,530 --> 00:59:44,450 beautification efforts, including light pool banners and the historic water tower painting of this 704 00:59:44,450 --> 00:59:44,710 brook. 705 01:00:04,620 --> 01:00:33,420 Just quickly, I'm excited to tell you that thebearers are sitting in the hall, ready to view the stop. We got our hardware in all of them and said, we are a part of the screen, we will put that into their schedule. And based on your input, we step with the reserve branding, city branding, and lifestyle branding. And so coming down the, the driving, the colors that pop up, in rotating, our blue, our green, their stop, 706 01:00:33,420 --> 01:00:40,760 There's this thing, there's a sale of it, and we have 13 cups of fill, so we'll take all the way down. 707 01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:43,480 So that's done, and ready to be installed. 708 01:00:44,100 --> 01:00:50,400 And as you've been out there, you've noticed that all new signage has been produced in install. 709 01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:52,180 So it looked real fresh. 710 01:00:52,780 --> 01:00:56,360 Regarding the tower, we have artists retained. 711 01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:59,420 No vendor really wanted to touch this. 712 01:00:59,420 --> 01:01:06,180 As Jeff mentioned, that he applied vinyl, all of them referred me back to a mirror artist, 713 01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:08,400 and two of them were in Park's teacher. 714 01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:12,600 She was on site, we had a little bit, we had a different guest. 715 01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:18,540 We ran into a few issues that were unforestation, including the 10th whistle-blossoms. 716 01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:23,320 We got that handle, and there's a few other things that we're looking at right now, 717 01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:26,660 so I was still getting even dry this day and see that. 718 01:01:26,660 --> 01:01:35,200 But if you go ahead, you have to talk to them about the internet, and you can call us with any questions or anything. 719 01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:39,320 I'm just curious, does that have any water or will it open? 720 01:01:39,980 --> 01:01:45,120 No, it's empty. It has kind of holes. You can actually kind of look up into it from the bottom. 721 01:01:46,180 --> 01:01:48,160 So, do we need to seal it or anything? 722 01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:51,540 I think the thought was, we do not need to seal it. 723 01:01:51,540 --> 01:01:56,100 there's other stuff that's getting looked at related to it right now, which is why the painting 724 01:01:56,100 --> 01:01:59,420 has not happened, but hopefully that will, 725 01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:03,720 hopefully that will be resolved and not have 726 01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:05,140 to come back to this next meeting. 727 01:02:05,940 --> 01:02:06,840 As a word to you, 728 01:02:13,130 --> 01:02:16,290 earlier is for that, okay, let's see what happens in the question. 729 01:02:17,900 --> 01:02:21,120 So do we know when we think the banners will be up by Friday? 730 01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:26,280 I was like, it's a picture in the hall. 731 01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:30,340 Mr. Alexander, is it looking good to get that up and then go to Friday? 732 01:02:38,510 --> 01:02:41,090 That sounds fantastic. I appreciate your commitment. 733 01:02:52,060 --> 01:03:05,260 On a positive note, if you guys have an opportunity at some point when the conference room is not going on, the drawings got all framed that we had kind of put out on boards. Those are now framed and hung in the conference room. 734 01:03:05,260 --> 01:03:09,120 So if we're meeting with people, we're able to kind of point at them and show them stylistic stuff. 735 01:03:09,420 --> 01:03:16,200 And then also like the big giant city map of like the aerodolf photography with all the neighbors and everything has been refreshed in that room as well. 736 01:03:18,060 --> 01:03:22,360 So if you get a chance to kind of duck in there and you want to see that I don't know if the old one is still on the floor or not. 737 01:03:23,180 --> 01:03:30,110 But it's actually quite impressive to see the old versus new and it's a little sad to have to say. 738 01:03:30,110 --> 01:03:38,090 So I have a maybe it's a piggyback on this on our properties, but would it be possible for what how 739 01:03:38,090 --> 01:03:42,110 involved is it for us to remove the two male boxes across the street? 740 01:03:43,210 --> 01:03:45,970 I mean do we have that's not a postal service issue right? 741 01:03:46,430 --> 01:03:47,170 You can. 742 01:03:47,170 --> 01:03:48,070 I got a truck. 743 01:03:49,410 --> 01:03:54,050 Because I'm ready to get your commitment towards saving, I'm going to buy it. 744 01:03:54,050 --> 01:03:54,490 I'm going to buy it. 745 01:03:54,650 --> 01:03:55,790 That's not ready to do it. 746 01:03:57,430 --> 01:03:58,350 On the way home. 747 01:03:58,350 --> 01:04:09,110 I mean we can do it. We can do it in the next hour. But I was just curious. I mean the door was open on one of them a few weeks and it was stuffed and I thought 748 01:04:09,690 --> 01:04:11,450 Can we just get rid of those 749 01:04:15,430 --> 01:04:23,750 Well, I think if we we probably shouldn't have that either. Yeah, that's yeah, that could be checks for us at this point. I don't know 750 01:04:23,750 --> 01:04:42,750 And also, I don't know if we talked about it, but in the signage to discussion, small signs is taking the in and out driveway signs and maybe getting something a little more substantial, a little more permanent looking than a garage sale this weekend. 751 01:04:43,550 --> 01:04:49,670 So, because I know those have taken a beating and they don't, so just something a little 752 01:04:49,670 --> 01:04:54,030 more stout, quote unquote, semi-perman. 753 01:04:55,090 --> 01:04:59,850 I think that sounds like that makes for me and we probably have the... 754 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:07,000 That's kind of falls under maintenance and upkeep that should already be able to address that. 755 01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:14,800 Yes, there you go. Yeah, just something a little more tasteful and structurally sound. 756 01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:21,680 Although that is it to do, but maybe we can get that taken care of in a more permanent way and welcome up with a more permanent plan on that. 757 01:05:22,020 --> 01:05:27,440 I'd appreciate it. 758 01:05:32,990 --> 01:05:38,130 That brings us on to item 5H update and discussion regarding maintenance improvements to the 759 01:05:38,130 --> 01:05:43,970 HEDC HNBC owned properties. I haven't update from Miss Gordon on this. She says that maintenance 760 01:05:43,970 --> 01:05:48,330 continues as normal and she actually provided a copy of the checklist that they're using. 761 01:05:48,470 --> 01:05:53,750 Inspections were happening daily for the trails in the dog zone. The larger required maintenance 762 01:05:53,750 --> 01:05:59,550 is noted like dirty inspections and then based upon whatever gets noted that needs to happen. 763 01:05:59,550 --> 01:06:04,050 and they then, like, schedule that, they're doing monthly pest treatments out there as well. 764 01:06:04,970 --> 01:06:10,270 There has been notice of some fire ant needs out of the dog at the paw grounds, so I think 765 01:06:10,270 --> 01:06:14,850 the fire ants are going to get treated for my understanding, but I will follow up on that 766 01:06:14,850 --> 01:06:15,470 as well. 767 01:06:15,970 --> 01:06:20,090 She wrote, mowing and weed eating has moved to every other week, as needed due to the growing 768 01:06:20,090 --> 01:06:24,310 season coming to an end, new lot of science have been added throughout the reserve, the large 769 01:06:24,310 --> 01:06:28,770 entry signage into the reserve has also partially been completed and she's waiting on additional 770 01:06:29,290 --> 01:06:33,770 signage. Staff has added trail markers and signage to the new nature trails. We are waiting 771 01:06:33,770 --> 01:06:38,330 on an additional trail map and pedestal and we'll install once they arrive. And that quotes 772 01:06:38,330 --> 01:06:43,590 have been received for fence painting at the dog recreation zone. Staff can do the work in 773 01:06:43,590 --> 01:06:47,650 house of starving in October over the course of two weeks. I don't know if you've all driven 774 01:06:47,650 --> 01:06:51,730 by it but the fence is just looking kind of a little ratty and a little rusted and so they're 775 01:06:51,730 --> 01:06:57,930 going to kind of stand it down and do some stuff to make that fence last longer. And so if we have 776 01:06:57,930 --> 01:07:02,170 So the questions, if there's anything else anybody wants me to follow up with her on, I'm happy 777 01:07:02,170 --> 01:07:02,870 to bring that forward. 778 01:07:04,090 --> 01:07:09,430 But General sounds like she's on top of it, she's integrated into kind of city processes. 779 01:07:10,490 --> 01:07:15,550 The next piece of that puzzle that I am going to start kind of politely pushing her on is that 780 01:07:15,550 --> 01:07:20,570 additional scope of maintenance stuff that we had kind of had on our original plan about 781 01:07:20,570 --> 01:07:25,290 clearing more underbrush opening up the reserve space and figuring out what the timing looks 782 01:07:25,290 --> 01:07:26,610 like on some of that. 783 01:07:26,610 --> 01:07:36,790 And I think that team is getting back to full speed, they've been short some people here along the way and they've been kind of having to navigate that, but I think they're 784 01:07:37,190 --> 01:07:38,530 They're back to full speed yet. 785 01:07:39,030 --> 01:07:39,250 There are. 786 01:07:39,590 --> 01:07:40,710 It's just a challenge. 787 01:07:41,370 --> 01:07:41,370 It 788 01:07:48,250 --> 01:07:50,350 doesn't move in the fall to that. 789 01:07:50,430 --> 01:07:56,010 It becomes easier to do some of that long maintenance undergrowth clearing and whatnot. 790 01:07:56,210 --> 01:07:57,570 It's not quite so hot, but everything's good. 791 01:07:57,790 --> 01:07:59,530 And so you get it last longer. 792 01:08:10,270 --> 01:08:16,650 That brings us on to item 5-H update and discussion regarding the parks and trails of heat fundraising program. 793 01:08:17,290 --> 01:08:19,290 I don't really have anything particular to report here. 794 01:08:19,450 --> 01:08:26,610 There's a report kind of in the packet, which is kind of the park board report. 795 01:08:26,730 --> 01:08:31,130 This is another one of those items that I've asked for us to kind of keep more awareness on as we go forward. 796 01:08:31,390 --> 01:08:38,010 So we won't necessarily cover it or talk about it, but kind of have a standing spot included so we understand what's going on with path. 797 01:08:38,010 --> 01:08:41,170 where they've had success, where they've spending that money, 798 01:08:41,750 --> 01:08:44,770 especially if we are going to be making investments 799 01:08:44,770 --> 01:08:46,810 to help them increase their funding, 800 01:08:47,250 --> 01:08:50,610 or we want to make sure that they don't just create a big cash 801 01:08:50,610 --> 01:08:54,410 or which is what led to our taking that part 802 01:08:54,410 --> 01:08:55,870 forward money away previously. 803 01:08:58,210 --> 01:09:01,550 So it looks like they have set some goals for themselves. 804 01:09:01,650 --> 01:09:04,350 They've got kind of their current membership count in there, 805 01:09:04,350 --> 01:09:10,310 and they have a new kind of large donor around a basketball court. 806 01:09:10,470 --> 01:09:12,910 So it's nice to just see things like that come into play. 807 01:09:14,170 --> 01:09:16,990 And with that, that brings us to agenda item six. 808 01:09:17,390 --> 01:09:19,710 In accordance with Texas Government Code Chapter 551, 809 01:09:19,770 --> 01:09:22,610 Sub-Chapter D, the board shall convene into a close executive session 810 01:09:22,610 --> 01:09:26,810 for soon to the following 550-1707251-087, 811 01:09:26,950 --> 01:09:29,430 real estate matters in economic development to deliberate regarding 812 01:09:29,430 --> 01:09:32,310 purchase exchange lease or value of real property and commercial or financial 813 01:09:32,310 --> 01:09:36,910 information to the city has received from a business prospect and to deliberate the offer 814 01:09:36,910 --> 01:09:42,890 of financial or other incentive to a business prospect at the H&E Kitchen in 6B, 551-074 815 01:09:42,890 --> 01:09:47,850 personnel matters to liberation regarding the appointment of employment evaluation, reassignment 816 01:09:47,850 --> 01:09:54,550 duties, discipline or dismissal of public officer employee regarding one director of economic development 817 01:09:54,550 --> 01:09:57,230 and at 1014 we're an executive session. 818 01:09:59,840 --> 01:09:59,980 At 819 01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:05,820 At 1032, we reconvene into open session, and accordance with Texas government code chapter 551, the board 820 01:10:05,820 --> 01:10:11,060 we can be in a regular session to consider action if any on matters discussed in executive session. 821 01:10:11,780 --> 01:10:16,560 There are no actions and at 1032 as well, we adjourned the meeting.