[6:53] Good evening. I now call this village of
Hebrin Council meeting to order at 6 PM
[6:57] on Monday, August 24th, 2026.
Please stand as you're able and join me
[7:03] in reciting the pledge.
[7:07] I pledge algiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the
[7:12] republic for which it stands. One nation
under God, indivisible with liberty and
[7:19] justice for all.
[7:26] » Roll call, please.
>> Here.
[7:29] » Yes.
>> Here. M.
[7:32] » Hoskinson.
>> Yes. M. Mrs. Chapman.
[7:34] » Yes. Mr. Marietta.
>> Here.
[7:37] Thank you. We have quorum. Thank you
visitors for attending this evening. If
[7:41] you've not already done so, please sign
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[7:45] will be opportunities to speak at two
points in the agenda labeled visitor
[7:49] comments.
[7:57] Sorry, village council meetings are
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[8:01] public for review.
Meeting minutes are official once the
[8:06] recording is approved by village council
by a majority vote. Today's recordings
[8:10] will become the official record of
minutes once approved. The recording is
[8:14] available online at the Ohio I'm sorry
at the village of Hein, Ohio YouTube
[8:19] channel.
[8:22] I am now seeking a motion for approval
of the minutes for the August 3rd, 2026
[8:28] council meeting.
>> So moved.
[8:31] » Second. Thank you. I have a um a motion
from Council Member Juvenelli and a
[8:37] second from Council Member Chapman. Any
discussion?
[8:42] » Roll call, please.
>> Mr. Marietta,
[8:46] » yes.
>> Mrs. Chapman,
[8:48] » yes.
>> Mr. Wolf,
[8:50] » yes.
>> Mr. Carpenter,
[8:52] » yes.
>> Miss Hoskinson, yes. Mr. Juvent.
[8:55] » Yes.
>> Thank you, council. It passes 6.
[9:03] We have this time reserved on the agenda
to hear comments from visitors regarding
[9:07] topics not listed elsewhere on the
agenda. Hopefully, you've signed in. If
[9:12] you haven't, please do so now. Please be
sure to state your name and address for
[9:16] the record. There's a fiveinut time
limit for each speaker. We are very
[9:21] eager to hear what you have to say, so
please speak loudly and clearly into the
[9:26] microphone.
[9:42] Okay.
[9:45] Can you hear me now? Oh, that's a
>> That's great. Thank you.
[9:49] » Okay. My name is Jim Morgan. I live at
401 Mound Street and um I'm here to talk
[9:58] about the proposed zoning change at 104
East 2nd Street.
[10:05] I thought that we were that the council
would vote on this tonight. I found out
[10:11] that they're not, but since I have some
neighbors here, I figured I would go
[10:16] ahead and speak about it tonight, even
though it'll be voted on later.
[10:21] Um,
I've been a builder
[10:27] for almost 50 years.
Um,
[10:32] and I have been involved with many
zoning meetings,
[10:38] a couple in Hebrin, but mostly in
townships in Licking County, some in
[10:44] Fairfield County and uh some in
uh a couple other counties around. Uh
[10:53] but
the um the zoning change proposed for
[10:59] this property is to change
a residential
[11:07] property into a general commercial
property. It's in our neighborhood
[11:13] and um I've heard it said that even that
the uh zoning board
[11:22] uh recommend that the change be made,
which I was floored by, but
[11:29] I heard it said that the reason that
they might consider changing it to
[11:33] commercial is because it is adjacent to
another commercial property. Well,
[11:39] that's not exactly true. Across Second
Street, there's a commercial property
[11:46] that has been there
for um forever. It's bordering 79.
[11:55] And
there are boundaries, of course, with
[12:00] all zoning maps. That just happens to be
the boundary there on Second Street
[12:05] between it and and this property.
If if it were
[12:13] if it were the thinking that because it
borders another commercial property, we
[12:17] might as well change this one. Well, if
that's the case, then
[12:23] if you approve that zoning change, then
why can't
[12:30] and across the street from it come in
the next day and apply for change there.
[12:35] Also
[12:39] the the main
reason that I am opposed
[12:48] my neighborhood
is that
[12:52] is a big deal. You change some
[12:57] you have made it
So that whatever is listed
[13:02] » I'm sorry. We're gonna I'm so sorry.
We're just going to um update the
[13:06] battery so that we can continue to hear
you.
[13:10] » Microphone.
>> Yeah. Oh, so sorry.
[13:20] » Can you hear me now?
>> Thank you.
[13:23] » Okay, there. Got to find the mic. Um,
the reason that I am opposed and many of
[13:31] my uh neighbors are opposed to it is
because once you change the zoning that
[13:36] allows the person that owns that
property to use it for whatever is
[13:42] listed or in that particular
classification.
[13:47] And um you once you once it's changed to
that, you really don't have the option
[13:53] as a council or anyone here
to to say we don't like what you're
[14:01] proposing, so we're going to turn it
down. Well, I guess you can say that,
[14:06] but there is an appeals process. And if
[14:12] if I think that that if I own that
property and I think that the business
[14:17] that I want to run there falls within
the jurisdiction that the the
[14:21] requirements and the restrictions and
everything of that classification and
[14:26] you say I can't do it, then I can go to
the Licking County Court of Common
[14:31] Please and I'm going to put my case
before a judge. The judge would then
[14:37] look at the
uh the proposal and if he thinks that
[14:42] that is listed in that classification
then I have the right to do that. And if
[14:50] if for instance you wouldn't agree with
that judge and say I think we're right
[14:55] well you can appeal it also to the state
of Ohio just as I could all the way to
[15:01] the state of Ohio. And you say well
that's pretty ridiculous. I don't think
[15:04] that's going to happen on this lot.
Well, it probably isn't,
[15:07] » Mr. Morgan.
>> Yes.
[15:09] » So, sorry. We're at five minutes.
>> Uh,
[15:25] » Kathy Morgan, 401 Mound Street.
>> Thank you. I just wanted to add that we
[15:33] took a petition around our neighborhood.
We have 26 signatures.
[15:40] Every property around this property
voted no. Hands down. There were two
[15:47] people that weren't at home. I could
have went on down the street, across the
[15:52] street, wherever. everyone on that wants
everyone we approached said absolutely
[15:59] not just wanted to add that. Thank you.
>> Thank you.
[16:04] » Thank you.
[16:15] Hello, my name is Mark Wahburn. I live
at 1125 Lake Forest Drive. I'm here
[16:20] about bike safety and how Hebrin
investigates, I guess. Um, good evening
[16:26] members of village council and thank you
for allowing me to uh the opportunity to
[16:31] speak. We are here tonight to ask the
village to consider taking a more
[16:35] proactive approach to bicycle safety and
awareness of Ohio's bicycle laws in our
[16:40] community. This is an issue that is very
personal to me, to my wife. I'm an avid
[16:47] bicyclist and like many cyclists in our
areas, I share our local roads with
[16:51] cars, trucks, commercial vehicles, and
most motorists are are courteous and
[16:58] careful when approaching a cyclist.
Unfortunately, it only takes one driver
[17:02] who is unaware of the law, who chooses
not to follow it for the consequences to
[17:08] be devastating. In 2024, there was more
than 1,100 cyclists killed in traffic
[17:14] crashes across the United States. Here
in Ohio, we have 24 one I know of who
[17:22] lost their lives in 2024. I'm only
giving you the 2024 stats because the
[17:28] 2025 stats have not yet been released.
Those aren't simply statistics. They
[17:34] represents people who went out for a
bicycle ride and never came home to
[17:37] their families. Ohio law is very clear
regarding vehicles passing vehicles.
[17:43] Under Ohio Revised Code section 4511.27,
3 ft or greater is considered a safe
[17:50] passing distance when a motor vehicle
passes a bicycle. Yet, we
[17:54] [clears throat] believe many drivers
simply do not know this law.
[17:59] That is why we would or I would like the
village to consider several uh
[18:05] relatively simple steps that could make
a meaningful difference. First, we'd
[18:09] like to see seasonal bicycle safety
awareness efforts, particularly in the
[18:13] spring and summer when significantly
more cyclists are on the road.
[18:18] information about Ohio's three-foot
passing law and reminder that bicycles
[18:23] have the legal right to use the roadway
and can and could be shared through the
[18:27] village website, social media, news
webs, and others communic
[18:32] communications.
Second, we would like the village to
[18:35] consider additional road signage
reminding motorists to share the road
[18:40] and to provide at least three feet when
passing a cyclist. A sign is a small
[18:45] investment, but seeing that reminder
while actually driving on the road where
[18:49] cyclists are present can have an
immediate impact. Third, we are asking
[18:54] for education and appropriate
enforcement by law. Education is
[18:59] important, but laws intended to protect
cyclists also need to be taken seriously
[19:03] when they are violated. A warning,
traffic stop, or citation doesn't just
[19:08] address the driver's behavior, it can
prevent the next dangerous encounter.
[19:13] Unfortunately, I re recently experienced
I was involved in one of these reasons
[19:19] we are here tonight.
On July 31st, I was riding my bicycle on
[19:23] High Street when a semi-tra approached
me from behind. I have all the pictures
[19:28] and everything. So, I'll show you that
with you. The semi passed me in a
[19:33] dangerous close distance, leaving me
with little room to react and putting me
[19:37] in a serious risk of being struck. The
incident was captured on a video and I
[19:42] have some pictures from the video that I
can share. I was not interfering with
[19:46] traffic or writing unpredictability.
I was using the road rate as permanent
[19:50] by permitted by Ohio law.
The danger resulted from a vehicle
[19:56] passing too close and failing to provide
the required safe distance. After the
[20:00] incident, I reported it to officer Zack
Hampton of the Hein Police and provided
[20:05] video and photo evidence.
We were told we would get look into it
[20:09] and get back to us. However, not hearing
back from him for several days. I
[20:13] stopped by the police department to get
an update and was told by the officer
[20:17] Hampton that the that he and another
officer reviewed the video and said the
[20:21] semi had provided me with ample room. I
left frustrated because I asked him how
[20:26] he investigated it and that's how he did
it. Sharing the video of photos of
[20:31] incidents to chief department to Chief
Welsh of the Hein Police Department
[20:37] makes made him aware of the situation
sharing the video and photos of the
[20:40] incident. Chief Welsh responded back to
the case and signed it back to Officer
[20:46] Hampton with Lieutenant Carson
overseeing the process. On August 7th,
[20:50] Hampton shared via mail email. The
incident will be reviewed by the law
[20:56] director's office on Monday and the
turnaround time should be within a few
[21:00] days. On August 14th, I received another
email from Officer Hampton stating that
[21:05] he had not received any response from
the director's office. That was the last
[21:09] communication I have received in the
matter. What was especially concerning
[21:13] to us was not only the incident itself,
but the lack of meaningful followup
[21:18] after it was reported to the Hein
police. We understand that police
[21:22] departments compete prior competing
priorities and limit resources. We are
[21:27] not here to criticize the individual
officer. We are asking the reports
[21:31] involving dangerous intersections
between vehicles and vulnerable road use
[21:35] users to be taken seriously.
>> Mark, I'm so sorry.
[21:39] » Do you want to finish it? Thank you.
[21:46] » Um, Rita Walburn, 11:25 Lake Forest
Drive. Um let's see
[21:54] see where he left off. Okay.
Particularly when video or other
[21:58] evidence is available.
Cyclists are someone's husband or wife,
[22:03] someone's son or daughter, someone's
parent, grandparent, friend, or
[22:07] neighbor. When a vehicle weighing
several thousand pounds passes a person
[22:11] on a bicycle with only inches to spare,
the cyclist has virtually no protection
[22:16] if something goes wrong. You don't want
it to take a serious injury or a death
[22:21] in the community before this issue
receives attention. We are asking the
[22:25] village of Hebrin to be proactive and we
respectively ask council, the village
[22:30] administration, and the Heburn Police
Department to consider working together
[22:34] on a bicycle safety initiative that
includes seasonal public awareness,
[22:38] appropriate road signage, education
about Ohio's three-foot passing law, and
[22:43] consistent enforcement when dangerous
violations occur. These are reasonable,
[22:48] achievable, achievable steps that could
make our roads safer for everyone. Our
[22:52] goal isn't to create a divide between
motorists and cyclists. Most cyclists
[22:57] are motorists, too. Our goal is to
simply for everyone who leaves their
[23:01] home, whether behind a steering wheel,
on a bicycle, or on foot, to have the
[23:06] opportunity to return home safely. Thank
you for your time and consideration with
[23:11] this request.
and we do have some things that we could
[23:14] share with you if you you're interested.
>> Thank you so much. Uh the photos, we can
[23:19] pass them along. Okay, thank you.
[23:31] » And I do want to actually I'm going to
take just a couple seconds, Mike. Um I
[23:37] just want to acknowledge that I did
receive an email from you. I know you've
[23:41] been in correspondence. um with village
administrator Mesner. Um also I know
[23:47] Chief is planning on giving you an
update. You may have heard a little bit
[23:50] about some water last week and so we
have been a little
[23:54] » Yeah, I just want to acknowledge that we
absolutely Yes, absolutely. But I just
[24:00] want to acknowledge that you have
reached out and I do appreciate that.
[24:04] Thank you.
[24:13] Please. Thank you.
>> Good evening, mayor and members of the
[24:16] council. My name is Mike McMarland. I
live at 133 Hamilton Avenue. I've been a
[24:21] resident of Hein for more than 60 years.
Uh this evening I rise and I'm going to
[24:28] read my remarks which I could speak ex
extemporaneously
[24:32] but uh in trying to be respectful of the
fivem minute cut off uh I'm going to
[24:37] read them and I'll probably read them
quickly. Uh I rise this evening in
[24:41] opposition to Hein ordinance 06-26
which was passed by the Hein Village
[24:47] Council on the 4th of May 2026.
That ordinance was to establish a
[24:51] special revenue fund for the human
landing incentive district tax increment
[24:56] financing program. We all know that the
tax or otherwise known as tiff was
[25:03] intended to help uh small v or
municipalities not necessarily small to
[25:09] uh bring housing to their communities
that otherwise might not uh be coming.
[25:16] The state law defines three basic
requirements that should exist for the
[25:20] municipality to implement a tiff. The
first is that the area defined
[25:24] geographically is currently blighted or
heavily tending towards being blighted.
[25:30] The statutory definition is economically
stagnant or conservation needy. Given
[25:36] that the property was a farm field, it
does not meet that requirement.
[25:41] The second requirement is called the but
for test which is but for tiff being
[25:47] instituted this project could not be
built. The developer couldn't afford to
[25:52] build it. This requires demonstrating
that private development or economic
[25:57] revitalization in the area would not
occur without the creation of the tiff
[26:02] district and the resulting public
investment. Because MI Homes has not
[26:06] requested any public investment and will
install all infrastructure for the Hein
[26:10] Landing project at its own expense, the
Hein project appears to fail this test.
[26:16] Also, the third requirement is a public
infrastructure plan which delineates
[26:21] specific public improvements. such as
roads, utilities, or facilities that
[26:26] will directly serve the benefit parcels
within the district. It appears this
[26:31] also fails the test. The state tiff law
allows the village to exempt incremental
[26:37] taxable property values from specific
uses voted by the taxpayers and redirect
[26:43] those payments to the village tiff fund.
In the case of Licking County and Hein,
[26:48] our voted property taxes provide funding
for the schools, fire and EMS, municipal
[26:54] and county services, the vocational
school, developmental disability,
[26:58] children's services, senior services,
police, library, mental health, and
[27:02] county parks.
The Hein TIF exempts the schools from
[27:07] this from losing any revenue, but the
proposed TIF, but they are only issues
[27:14] that do not lose funding. All of those
other issues I mentioned will lose
[27:18] funding as a result of this tiff. The
fire and EMS department and other
[27:23] services that I mentioned will be taking
on additional demands for their services
[27:28] without receiving the additional re
revenues that is captured by the tiff.
[27:34] Eventually the increased costs for these
services for the new properties will be
[27:38] loaded onto the remainder of the
taxpayers. Some revenue will be exempt
[27:43] from the tiff but will be minimal on new
construction. This is considered the
[27:47] base and is frozen at current values. As
a voter, I voted for the issues that I
[27:52] mentioned previously. I believe they are
important and provide services for my
[27:55] friends and neighbors that they need. I
do not support redirecting them for
[28:00] other non-voted purposes. I believe that
if our V village has a need for funding
[28:05] to repair or replace infrastructure
within the village, a plan should be
[28:09] developed which covers a minimum 10
years along with projected costs and
[28:13] presented to the voters for their
approval. I would support such attacks.
[28:18] I have been advised by the Lincoln
County Auditor's office that the process
[28:22] for implementing the Hein Landing tiff
district still has several steps before
[28:27] it is finally implemented. The Hein
legislation requires an extensive packet
[28:32] be prepared and submitted to the county
auditor's office who will then forward
[28:36] that to the state department of
taxation. The state will then review the
[28:40] packet with all the required
documentation to determine if the
[28:44] district will be approved. If approved,
it will then be sent back to the county
[28:48] auditor's office for an implementation.
In view of the information I have
[28:53] provided this evening, I am respectfully
requesting that the Hein Council
[28:58] consider another review of the Hein
Landing TIFF legislation and project at
[29:03] a future council committee meeting. This
would allow the council to hear
[29:07] testimony from representatives of
impacted agencies and ensure any further
[29:13] other due diligence is conducted.
I'd be happy to take any questions if
[29:18] you like. Otherwise, thank you for your
time this evening. Thank you.
[29:24] » Um
just a couple of items I want to address
[29:28] with those uh concerns brought forward.
First, uh tiffs aren't just used for
[29:34] homes. Um it's for any type of
development that comes in. Um also, uh
[29:41] historically, New Albany and many other
types of jurisdictions in that same um
[29:47] vein have qualified for the blighted or
whatever other um rules were stated. And
[29:54] also uh with regard to your tax dollars
being redirected, it's not yours. It's
[30:01] the new uh developments tax dollars that
are being directed. But, uh, I do want
[30:06] to thank you for, um, taking the time to
come and speak tonight, and I do
[30:11] appreciate your years of service to the
community, and I know that you
[30:15] understand these issues very well. Um,
council, I would just say that residents
[30:20] should know how a tiff works. They
should know where the money goes, and
[30:25] they should know why elected officials
make the decisions they make. I agree
[30:29] with all of that. That is why the Hein
Landing TIFF was introduced. discussed,
[30:35] debated, and approved in public
meetings. It was not done in secret.
[30:40] Every vote was public. Every document is
a public record, and recordings of those
[30:45] meetings are available for anyone who
wants to review them. The bigger
[30:50] question before us tonight is what's in
the best interest of Hebrin residents.
[30:54] We have roads that need attention. We
have storm water problems that need
[30:59] attention. Last week, residents dealt
with serious flooding. Some families had
[31:04] water in their homes. Some were
displaced from their homes. Those are
[31:08] real problems affecting our community
today. The people of Hebrin expect us to
[31:13] address them and they expect us to do it
responsibly. I also think it's important
[31:19] to remember that for many years, Hein
residents paid a higher tax rate for
[31:23] fire, fire, and EMS than other
neighborhoods within our own
[31:28] jurisdiction,
despite sharing the exact same service
[31:33] network.
Our residents understand fairness. They
[31:38] expect their elected officials to
protect their interests just as firmly
[31:41] as every neighboring community protects
theirs. Today, homeowners are facing
[31:47] rising costs everywhere they turn.
People are concerned about property
[31:52] taxes. We see this in the news
constantly that the voters are trying to
[31:58] repeal property taxes.
They're concerned about the cost of
[32:02] living. They're concerned about staying
in their homes. For some people, it is
[32:06] very real that if their property taxes
go up, they have to seriously entertain
[32:11] moving.
When our effort to replace a police levy
[32:15] that was over 40 years old failed, it
wasn't because they told me they didn't
[32:21] like their police. They told me they
didn't want to pay more in taxes.
[32:27] They want good services, but they also
expect us to spend the money that we get
[32:32] wisely. And while it's true some
residents may be willing to pay more in
[32:37] taxes, I believe most Hebrin residents
would rather see us make the best
[32:42] possible use of the taxes that they are
already paying. That is exactly what
[32:48] council was trying to do by considering
and contemplating and ultimately voting
[32:53] for this tiff. I have not heard any
public agency tell Hein that we should
[32:59] never use TIFFs.
In fact, West Licking Joint Fire
[33:03] District provided village leadership
with a Pataskca framework that they have
[33:08] worked with Pascala on that includes
continued use of TIFFs and ways to make
[33:14] sure that the fire district is still
protected.
[33:18] To me, the fact that Wes Licking shared
a model agreement on how to use TIFFs
[33:24] suggests that the conversation isn't
whether we should be using TIFFs. The
[33:29] conversation should be how we can use
them responsibly while still enabling
[33:34] Westlicking Joint Fire District to
provide important public services.
[33:40] I also want residents to understand
something important.
[33:44] A tiff does not raise taxes and if this
tiff does not take sorry this tiff does
[33:52] not take existing tax revenue from the
agencies.
[33:57] It uses future revenue in new
development and it places it in a
[34:02] separate fund and it can only be used
for public projects including
[34:08] infrastructure improvements and related
costs. Reasonable people can disagree
[34:13] about the details of a tiff. That's fair
and that's healthy. But I do not believe
[34:18] the answer is to take tools away from
Hebrin that can help us maintain roads,
[34:23] improve drainage, reduce flooding, and
make better use of taxpayer dollars. The
[34:29] real question is not whether money is
being redirected. The real question is
[34:34] whether we use lawful tools to maintain
the community we already have like those
[34:40] other jurisdictions that are in this
joint district with us or whether we ask
[34:47] homeowners and taxpayers to carry even
more of a burden. I want to be crystal
[34:53] clear about my position as a mayor.
Before I ask Hebrin residents and Hebrin
[35:00] taxpayers for a single dollar more, I
have a responsibility and I feel that
[35:05] council has a responsibility to make
sure that we've made the best possible
[35:10] use of every single dollar they have
already made available to us. I believe
[35:16] that is what our residents expect to us
us to do and that is what I plan to
[35:21] continue to do. Thank you. Council,
>> may I respond?
[35:27] » Your five minutes are up. You're welcome
to come back and you're also welcome to
[35:32] send a letter.
>> My five minutes.
[35:37] » I'm not a member of the public. Thank
you.
[35:48] Any other visitor comments?
[35:59] Okay. The next item on the agenda is
legislation.
[36:05] First item is ordinance 1426,
an ordinance to amend section 339.0.
[36:12] 02 of the village of Hebrin, Ohio,
codified code section titled through
[36:17] trucks prohibited. This is the first
reading.
[36:21] » Mayor, if I may speak on this,
>> of course.
[36:23] » Um, I guess first, do we want to read
through the ordinance or is now a good
[36:27] time to go ahead and begin discussion on
this?
[36:31] » You're welcome to speak to uh ordinance
1426. If I may, understanding again as
[36:36] we just talked about infrastructure and
the ramifications as we know with trucks
[36:41] that continue to pass through certain
roads and the damage that they incur.
[36:44] Um, I am going to in a moment make the
motion to declare an emergency and seek
[36:50] for us to wave the readings. And here is
why. The more time that we allow to pass
[36:55] and otherwise not take action
decisively, the more time trucks go over
[37:00] these roads and cause more damage, which
in turn creates a bill to their
[37:05] taxpayer. It is in that mindset that I
believe it would be best to implement
[37:10] this. Not that I seek to otherwise wave
an ordinary process in political
[37:15] discourse, but I think time is of the
essence in order to address this issue
[37:19] and ensure we do what we need to do to
keep our infrastructure as best as we
[37:23] can and not incur additional costs from
damage, especially with these trucks
[37:27] that pass through. That being said, I
believe I may now make the motion to in
[37:33] that sense um declare an emergency and
wave the readings
[37:38] for this ordinance. Ordinance 14-26.
>> It's got a point of order. You need to
[37:44] require to make two separate motions.
>> Would it be one to declare an emergency
[37:49] and one to wave the readings?
>> Correct.
[37:52] » Okay. Then in that case, first motion I
would make is to declare an emergency.
[37:59] Do I have that right?
>> That's fine. That's fine. Doesn't matter
[38:02] the order, but they need to be separate
motions.
[38:04] » Understood. I'll make the first one.
Thank you, Solicitor Rose.
[38:14] Just
>> so I have a question, but it'll be after
[38:17] the second.
>> We don't have to make that an emergency,
[38:20] right? We can just wave the readings.
>> If you want it to take effect
[38:25] immediately, it needs to be declared an
emergency. If you want it to take effect
[38:28] in 30 days,
>> you don't need to make uh you don't need
[38:34] to declare it emergency, but you would
need to wave the readings if you wish to
[38:37] vote on it tonight.
>> I'll second his motion.
[38:43] » Okay. So, I have a motion on the floor
to declare an emergency for uh ordinance
[38:48] 1426. I have that motion from council
member Juvenelli and a second from
[38:52] council member Marietta. Any discussion
on making it an emergency?
[38:57] » I just had a quick question. Didn't we
already have a ordinance to not through
[39:02] birth through trucks? What is the
change? Wasn't this already in place or
[39:06] what are we changing?
>> So, uh, very long story short, there was
[39:10] a deeper dive into the language that we
currently have in our ordinance and um,
[39:17] it was found lacking. So, this is to
make it more robust and enforceable so
[39:22] we can actually do what we've been
trying to do for years, which is ask
[39:26] trucks to not drive on roads they need
not be on.
[39:32] Did I get that about right, Chief? Thank
you.
[39:38] So, we have a motion on the floor and a
second. Any other discussion on
[39:42] declaring an emergency?
Roll call, please.
[39:49] Mr. Wolf,
>> yes.
[39:51] » Mr. Huanelli,
>> yes.
[39:53] » Mr. Carpenter,
>> yes.
[39:55] » Mr. Marietta,
>> yes.
[39:58] » Miss Hoskinson,
>> yes.
[39:59] » Mrs. Chapman,
>> yes.
[40:01] » Thank you, council. That passes 6,
presumably.
[40:04] » I will now go ahead to Solicister Rose's
point. Make the second motion to wave
[40:09] the readings on ordinance 14-26.
>> I'll second that. I have a motion,
[40:16] sorry, from council member Juvenelli and
a second from council member Marietta.
[40:20] Any discussion on
um waving the readings for 1426
[40:28] hearing? None. Roll call.
>> Miss Hoskinson,
[40:32] » yes.
>> Mrs. Chapman,
[40:34] » yes.
>> Mr. Wolf,
[40:35] » yes.
>> Mr. Juvenelli,
[40:36] » yes.
>> Mr. Carpenter,
[40:38] » yes.
>> Mr. Marietta,
[40:40] » yes.
>> Thank you. That count that also passes
[40:43] 6. And finally, um, I presume I'm
looking for a motion to adopt ordinance
[40:49] 1426.
>> So moved.
[40:51] » Second.
>> I have a motion from council member
[40:54] Juvenelli and a second from Council
Member Hoskinson. Any discussion?
[41:01] » Roll call, please.
>> Mr. Wolf,
[41:04] » yes.
>> Miss Hoskinson,
[41:05] » yes.
>> Mrs. Chapman,
[41:07] » yes.
>> Mr. Marietta,
[41:08] » yes.
>> Mr. Carpenter,
[41:10] » yes.
>> Mr. Juvenile,
[41:11] » yes. Thank you, council. That passes 6.
[41:17] And um I think we have visitors who did
not come up and speak a moment ago. Um
[41:23] Minist would you like to send a
representative up to speak to council?
[41:28] Thank you.
[41:34] Good evening. Uh Sarah Matthews, Wind
Waste Innovations, 995 Keller Drive,
[41:39] Heath, Ohio. um was just really coming
um uh at the request of Miss Meister to
[41:44] come in and speak to council in regards
to your services that we render in in
[41:50] the village. Um see if there's any
questions, any concerns um anything that
[41:54] I could address this evening.
>> I know various council members have um
[42:00] articulated some concerns. So
I know one of the concerns that I have
[42:06] was when we were discussing the
contracts One of the high points that we
[42:11] were
talking back and forth was that one of
[42:15] your benefits was that multiple
containers weren't going to be a billing
[42:20] issue. That if the trash was there, it
would be taking, which was a highlight
[42:25] for a lot of the residents. I know
myself as a resident that's not been the
[42:32] case. I've actually had my trash not
picked up because I've had personal
[42:40] units there and I've been told if I
can't fit it in, I can't be picked up.
[42:45] That concerns me.
>> Um, I am happy to um get your address
[42:52] and to review your account to make sure
that it is compliant with our program.
[42:57] Um I I do have to and maybe I should
have started off this so I apologize but
[43:00] um do have to address some issues over
the last couple of months that we have
[43:06] had. Um and the the we have experienced
a issue with our driving force. Um and
[43:15] so over the last few months maybe April,
May, June, you we we did see a slight in
[43:21] intake of service complaints. Um and I
apologize for that. Uh we have made
[43:27] great strides to uh hire drivers. Um it
is uh a regular occurrence in the
[43:34] industry. Unfortunately, it's a very
highly demanded job and um one that
[43:39] highly recruited. Um and we also have
new operations leadership in our Heath
[43:45] office. So um with that said, we have
had some subd drivers in your community.
[43:50] uh drivers that are not 100% familiar
with your community. It is a resource
[43:54] that we have that allows us to bring in
other drivers to make certain that we
[43:59] are getting the trash picked up, but we
do at times encounter issues uh with a
[44:04] missed stop. Uh so, one thing I noticed
is a lot of the corner units, maybe they
[44:09] place their trash out on it's not their
address and they placed it on the
[44:12] neighboring street. So, that was one
thing that we've c came across. Um maybe
[44:16] a compliance issue with not taking your
personal container. um or a bulk item
[44:22] just due to that driver not being as
familiar. So, I certainly apologize if
[44:28] that's something that you're still
encountering. Please let me know. Again,
[44:31] I'll look into it and make certain that
we're speaking to the driver. Um but I
[44:36] do believe we have those things ironed
out. I think for your patience as as we
[44:41] have worked oursel through that, um we
are fully staffed and as I said, we do
[44:45] have new leadership in in place. Uh we
try to be incredibly responsive. We are
[44:51] very proud to partner with the village
and anytime we got a communication, we
[44:54] take it very seriously. We escalate it
immediately, try to make certain that
[44:57] we're resolving it. So I do apologize if
you encountered that problem. Um happy
[45:01] to get it rectified for you.
[45:12] » I don't have a question, but I have a
comment. um several months. I guess it
[45:16] was right after you took the contract.
We did have something not taken, but
[45:20] oop, sorry. But here recently, we've had
excellent service lately. So,
[45:24] » thank you very much. Uh we do, like you
said, we do take great pride in
[45:27] partnering with the village. We want to
deliver the best service. Uh we
[45:31] appreciate your patience as we've had
some substitutes not as familiar. Um but
[45:35] but we do really want to deliver great
service. We we don't ever want for you
[45:39] to get a call. Um, and so I know that,
um, getting those calls was a little
[45:43] unusual. Uh, and I appreciate your
patience while we work through that.
[45:50] » And if you do ever get a call, certainly
reach out to me. We want to get it
[45:53] corrected as soon as possible.
Thank you so much you
[46:04] » uh the next item is council action items
and I'm seeking a motion to acknowledge
[46:09] receipt and review of the July 26 20 I'm
sorry July 2026 uh bank reconciliation
[46:21] » so move
>> how about uh you split the Is that okay?
[46:26] And so I have a motion from Council
President Wolf and a second from Council
[46:28] Member Carpenter. Any discussion?
[46:33] Roll call, please.
>> Mr. Marietta?
[46:38] » Yes.
>> Mr. Wool?
[46:40] » Yes.
>> Mrs. Chapman?
[46:41] » Yes.
>> Mr. Juvenile?
[46:43] » Yes.
>> Mr. Carpenter?
[46:44] » Yes.
>> Miss Hoskinson?
[46:46] » Yes.
>> Thank you. Council passes 6. The next
[46:50] item is the appropriation amendment
regarding a community enhancement.
[46:57] » Good evening, council. I am asking for
an appropriation for our community
[47:01] enhancement fund. Uh because with all of
the extra events that we've had this
[47:06] year, America 250 specifically, but also
because we've been um our strategy for
[47:11] sponsorship looked a little different
this year. we were able to proactively
[47:15] send out packages asking for businesses
and community partners to sponsor um an
[47:21] entire package of events. And so that
being said, uh with review with CFO
[47:26] Morgan, uh there's money in the account
that we can continue to use for the rest
[47:30] of the events this year, but it is not
appropriated at this point. And so I am
[47:34] asking for that change. I did not bring
my notes with me about what amount we
[47:38] decided on. So I'm looking at you, CFO
Morgan. I know we had that settled
[47:43] though. Thank you. Uh so $10,000 to uh
be reappropriated for that account and
[47:51] again like I mentioned we because of the
generosity of many sponsors we've been
[47:55] very successful in funding that account
not only with your contribution but with
[47:59] the contribution of our businesses and
we want to make sure between few other
[48:03] events we have but primarily our
Halloween bash and the Christmas market
[48:07] we need to make sure we have the
appropriate funds to continue those
[48:10] events this year.
[48:17] Seconded.
I have a motion from council member
[48:21] Carpenter and a second from council
member Juvenelli. Any discussion?
[48:30] Roll call, please.
Miss. Hoskinson?
[48:33] » Yes. Mrs. Chapman?
>> Yes.
[48:35] » Mr. Wolf?
>> Yes.
[48:36] » Mr. Duvenelli?
>> Yes.
[48:37] » Mr. Marietta?
>> Yes.
[48:40] » Mr. Carpenter? Yes.
[48:44] » Thank you, council. That passed the 60.
And I just want to clarify um CFO
[48:49] Morgan. So, let's say I personally wrote
a check as a business owner in the
[48:55] village to give money for another
community event. Um, does that money
[49:02] just go straight into whatever account
or does that require
[49:07] that money to be then appropriated
because it's an additional amount that
[49:12] we hadn't anticipated earlier?
>> Well, at the beginning at the end of
[49:16] each year going into the new year, we do
our appropriations. Part of that is also
[49:21] estimating revenue. With this particular
fund, it's very hard to know exactly how
[49:28] much you're going to be able to have in
donations and bring in. So, we took kind
[49:33] of a rough estimate and then set the
appropriations accordingly. Moving on
[49:38] through the year, businesses and
residents have been more generous and
[49:44] therefore the appropriations need to be
raised for that level of extra revenue
[49:50] we received. So, thank you. Right. Just
wanted to clarify so that folks
[49:56] understood we weren't just robbing Peter
to pay Paul. Okay.
[50:02] » Okay. The next item is a utility
director. Can you speak to that as well?
[50:06] » Um, so in your packet, you should have
received a proposed job description. Um,
[50:11] I'm it was at the beginning of this
month that I met with the personnel
[50:15] committee and we introduced the idea of
utility director. Um when you asked me
[50:21] to become the administrator, uh we
talked a lot about efficiencies and
[50:25] making sure that we're building up the
right team and that we're positioning
[50:29] the village for the growth that we're
experiencing, but also to make sure that
[50:34] we're running your utilities smoothly
from now into the future. And so working
[50:38] with several different uh team members
and uh including our engineering firm
[50:44] and looking at the efficiencies in other
communities similar to our size. Um I'm
[50:50] asking for council to consider this new
position for the utility director.
[50:55] There's a few points I want to clarify.
Um we have done some shifting around
[51:01] operationally uh to ensure that what we
budgeted this year versus what we
[51:07] anticipate budgeting next year. We are
not seeing an increase in salaries even
[51:12] though we're adding this position. Uh
our plan is that we will not have
[51:17] assistant superintendent in the water
and waste or water reclamation
[51:21] departments. Instead, we will have the
utility director and we will have the
[51:26] two superintendent reporting directly to
them with the utility director reporting
[51:30] to me. Um I'm finding out as I'm
learning and diving into this role that
[51:36] having consistency amongst the two
departments is really really important
[51:42] and we are fortunate to have some great
uh team members in that department and
[51:47] so um having discussion with them and
talking about operationally where are
[51:52] some gaps this is where this we've
resulted to to this position. Um, we've
[51:58] really dove into the job description and
making sure that there's clear lines
[52:02] amongst the superintendent, the utility
director, and the administrator. But, of
[52:07] course, as we, uh, figure this out and
navigate a new position, uh, especially
[52:12] one in leadership, there will probably
be adjustments we have to make along the
[52:15] way, and I'll keep you updated as we
figure out how to to best make this
[52:19] position function for the village. I
know you probably have lots of
[52:23] questions, so I'm happy to answer any
you may have.
[52:39] No, I not. Uh, I am looking for a motion
to ask solicitor Rose to draft
[52:44] legislation for this new position.
>> So moved.
[52:48] » Second.
Thank you, council. I have a vote or a
[52:53] motion from council member Marietta and
a second from council member Hoskinson
[52:58] uh to draft legislation for council to
consider with regard to a utility
[53:03] director position.
Roll call, please.
[53:10] » Mr. Wolf,
>> yes.
[53:12] » Mr. Marietta,
>> yes.
[53:13] » Mr. Duvenelli,
>> yes.
[53:15] » Mrs. Chapman, yes.
>> Miss Hoskinson, yes. Mr. Carpenter,
[53:19] » yes.
Thank you, council.
[53:24] I do appreciate each time council is
willing to consider
[53:29] um putting more responsibility on
individuals who demonstrate that they
[53:34] can handle more responsibility and
demonstrate that they are willing to do
[53:39] more for the village and more for
residents. So, thank you for that. Um I
[53:44] really want us to leverage our talent as
much as we can instead of creating more
[53:49] jobs. I'd much rather have people do
great at their current and uh elevated
[53:54] roles. So, thank you for doing for at
least considering it.
[53:58] The [clears throat] next item on the
agenda is administrators report. All
[54:02] right, several items that I want to
share with you. Um I will end with
[54:07] everything we've dealt with this past
week, which you obviously know is
[54:11] coming. Um but on a high note, we are
excited to welcome a company called
[54:15] Westerman. Uh that announcement was made
today. Uh it's a multi-million dollar
[54:21] investment uh with a great payroll
investment in the village as well. Could
[54:26] be upwards of 130 employees. Um this
particular company is located in
[54:33] Breamman and they're opening their uh an
additional location here in Hebrin. Um
[54:38] they build the tanks that are used for
nuclear power. So they're not doing that
[54:44] here just to clarify. uh they're
building the tanks for that. Um they
[54:48] will be occupying the old Ohio Metal
Technologies building. So it's not a new
[54:53] building, it's going into an existing
building, which is also a really big
[54:56] win. Um because that building's been
empty for a couple years now. Uh they've
[55:00] already been a great partner. We've
worked very closely with Growlicki
[55:04] County and One Columbus. Um so as we
continue to celebrate that win and get
[55:09] more information, I will make sure to
share that with you.
[55:13] Uh, as a reminder, um, Chris will be
sending out some information the Ohio
[55:18] Municipal League conference that is
coming up in October. Uh, I know the
[55:22] mayor will probably chat about this
during her comments as well, but it's
[55:25] really great programming for council,
mayors, and administration. So, I hope
[55:29] to see you all there. Uh, as well as you
will be receiving a reminder about your
[55:34] public records training and making sure
that's completed before the end of the
[55:38] year.
We are going to have two different
[55:42] opportunities for council to volunteer
and I hope you'll consider it. Uh one is
[55:46] the river roundup. Uh we do this
annually. Uh you're probably going to
[55:50] see some information that river roundup
this year falls on pie festival day and
[55:54] you all know nothing else happens on pie
festival day in Hebrin other than the pi
[55:58] festival. So, that being said, uh we did
change our date to September 5th, and of
[56:04] course, we are going to need extra hands
with that cleanup given the
[56:08] circumstances of what we faced last
week. So, I hope you'll consider
[56:11] volunteering. And then, uh after you get
done cleaning up the parks and the
[56:17] ditches the following weekend, we ask
you to wash your hands first, but then
[56:21] come and serve pie at the pie festival.
and we have several opportunities
[56:25] throughout that evening for you to sign
up and support that effort as well. Um,
[56:29] we will send out both of those signups
via email so that you can consider them.
[56:36] And uh, this being a topic this evening,
I feel like it's appropriate to mention,
[56:40] I know you're aware, but um, with the
Wurns and their concerns, I think it
[56:46] raises the priority for our active
transportation plan that we're working
[56:50] through right now. Um, so we're working
very closely with LCATs to start that
[56:55] work. Uh, we've already done a kickoff
and they've already been in the village
[56:58] soliciting feedback from residents. Um,
also with signage in the village uh near
[57:05] some of our most traveled areas uh with
walking and biking with a QR code and
[57:10] they said that the feedback is coming in
really well. They'll also be at the pi
[57:14] festival and then of course I has I I
have forwarded the communication um to
[57:19] them so that we can really take a deeper
dive into the bike safety aspect as
[57:24] we're working through this plan long
term. So please note that. And then um
[57:30] I'm convinced that uh the first 30 days
as administrator there's going to be a
[57:35] little bit of everything thrown at me to
make sure I can hack it. Uh because last
[57:39] week was a doozy. Um, I am so grateful
to all of the different partners from a
[57:45] county and a regional perspective. All
of you, all of our businesses and
[57:49] residents that stepped up to make sure
that um, our people were taken care of.
[57:54] Uh, it was a really tough week for many
of our residents. Um, some of them
[57:59] displaced from their homes, some of them
still in their homes, but literally
[58:03] surrounded by water. um and the amount
of people that were willing to step up
[58:07] and take care of one another. It was it
was really special to see. Um, so I want
[58:13] to thank of course our police
department, uh, Westlicking Fire, uh,
[58:18] for all of their help. Uh, our public
works department and our community
[58:21] development department. But even though,
um, our other utility departments
[58:25] necessarily weren't focused on flooding,
uh, there were some other issues that
[58:31] came out of flooding and kept them very,
very busy as well. um all of our
[58:36] churches. Uh Pastor Carpenter, uh
Councilman Carpenter, I don't know what
[58:41] to call you in this circumstance. Um and
then Pastor Harkness, um making sure
[58:46] that we had a shelter for several people
that needed it throughout uh several
[58:50] days. Uh worked very closely with the
Licking County Emergency Management
[58:54] Agency, Red Cross, Salvation Army, the
businesses. we have so much that was
[59:00] donated that we're convinced that we're
going to have extra even after we
[59:04] deliver the care packages tomorrow. So,
uh they really really stepped up. So,
[59:10] along those same lines, Hein
Trailblazers, our community improvement
[59:13] corporation, um if you would walk
across, well, you can see it in the
[59:16] hallway right now. Um but if you also
would go to the library space, you would
[59:20] see so many items that have been donated
um by different people. And we're going
[59:25] to be using those items to build care
packages that will not only build
[59:29] tomorrow. So, if you're interested from
9 to 11, but then we're going to
[59:32] physically deliver them to the
properties that we know were impacted.
[59:35] And then we're also going to initiate uh
and allow residents to to pull through
[59:40] the parking lot and pick up if we didn't
get them through hand delivery. So,
[59:45] those um deliveries are going to include
personal care items, um cleaning
[59:50] supplies, food, a variety of items that
hopefully will be helpful to all of
[59:56] them. Um there is also a crisis cleanup
line that we're sharing via Facebook and
[1:00:00] getting ready to put out an email. So,
as you're seeing those things or you're
[1:00:04] talking to residents that have been
impacted, please make sure that you
[1:00:08] share with them that there are resources
available for them or at least worth a
[1:00:12] call. Um, I talked to the EMA today and
they said that even across all of the
[1:00:17] communities that were impacted this past
week, the calls have actually been
[1:00:20] really minimal um for that cleanup
crisis line. So, I'm not sure if people
[1:00:25] are really realizing that that resource
is available to them. Uh, with that, I
[1:00:31] also want to mention that we've received
an influx of call calls about sink holes
[1:00:35] or other issues along the village. Um,
we had a tree down on Canal Road today.
[1:00:40] Um, those things are a result of what we
experienced last week and my team is
[1:00:45] working really hard to make sure that we
address them as soon as we possibly can.
[1:00:49] Um, and I know that it's extremely
frustrating for residents when we can't
[1:00:53] address them on the same day that
they're brought up. Um, but I ask that
[1:00:57] you if you hear any of these concerns,
you bring them to me immediately so that
[1:01:01] we can get them on the list, prioritize
them, and make sure everybody's taken
[1:01:04] care of as quickly as we possibly can.
So, that concludes my update.
[1:01:11] Thank you,
[1:01:15] Council President Wolf.
>> Um, I brought this up one other time.
[1:01:20] It's been a while back, but just talking
about the bike safety and all that. It's
[1:01:26] possible to get a crosswalk put in on
Maine at 9th.
[1:01:31] » I mean, the sidewalk's already cut there
for it.
[1:01:35] » Absolutely. So, um, I should have
mentioned this as well. We've had some
[1:01:40] things come up between then, so we
didn't get to celebrate as much as I'd
[1:01:43] like to, but with the ODOT funding that
I mentioned a few weeks ago,
[1:01:47] approximately almost $1.9 million that
we were awarded. Um, I have that kickoff
[1:01:52] call in September. It's not going to be
a fast project. We all know that I like
[1:01:56] things done the next day, but reality
sinking in. It doesn't work that way
[1:01:59] sometimes. um but $1.9 million and it is
specifically to safety and pedestrian
[1:02:05] safety uh on West Main Street. So that's
going to include multiple sidewalks, a
[1:02:10] bike lane, curve out um I'm sorry, um
bumpouts, and several other features
[1:02:15] that I think will make a huge difference
long term, but we'll have to be patient
[1:02:20] on that. And I'll have more information
on what that timeline looks like after
[1:02:24] that kickoff call in September.
[1:02:28] Good.
Thank you, council member. Council
[1:02:32] member Juvenelli.
>> Yes. Um, well, first I in my report
[1:02:36] wanted to take a moment to recognize and
thank everyone across the village who
[1:02:41] stepped over or stepped up over the past
week in response to the flooding our
[1:02:45] community experienced. The work of our
police department, public works, water
[1:02:50] and wastewater department, and the
entire village administration was truly
[1:02:54] commendable. I am incredibly grateful
for the time, effort, and dedication
[1:02:59] that went into helping our community
through a very difficult situation.
[1:03:04] But just as importantly as I was
incredibly proud to see how many people
[1:03:07] throughout Hebrin stepped up to help
their neighbors, whether through
[1:03:11] donations, assisting with evacuations,
helping those directly impacted, or
[1:03:16] continuing to led or lend a hand even
now.
[1:03:20] Moments like this remind me why I am so
proud to call Heinron home. The
[1:03:25] kindness, generosity, and genuine care
people showed one another over the past
[1:03:30] week says an awful lot about the
community that we have here. And I am
[1:03:34] simply wanting to say thank you to all
of you.
[1:03:38] Finally,
I'd like to acknowledge an email that I
[1:03:41] received recently from resident Jeff
Johnstone expressing concern about my
[1:03:47] work schedule and wondering if I should
step down. I wanted to address this
[1:03:52] publicly.
Balancing my career and public service
[1:03:57] is a challenge I embrace wholeheartedly
and one of which I've not missed a
[1:04:02] single beat. Serving Hebrin is an
incredible honor. I remain 100%
[1:04:08] committed to this seat and I'm not going
anywhere. I appreciate Jeff Jstone and
[1:04:14] all of our residents truly and also for
staying engaged in our local government.
[1:04:21] That's all I had. Thank you.
>> Thank you, Council Member Carpenter.
[1:04:29] » Couple things. Um
first the uh want to just remind council
[1:04:34] the potential for the upcoming finance
budget meeting.
[1:04:39] Just everybody start looking for it and
make yourself available so we can go
[1:04:43] through that process. CFO Morgan has
already selected the date I believe
[1:04:49] tenative
[1:04:54] like to encourage everybody to make that
a reality.
[1:04:58] Second,
>> everybody or just the committee?
[1:05:00] » The committee. Committee. Yes. Thank
you.
[1:05:03] » And staff.
[1:05:08] » Second. The uh community is reflective
of its leadership and I personally have
[1:05:13] heard the comments of everybody's
appreciation for the community that has
[1:05:18] stepped up for the recent flooding in
town. But as a council member who was
[1:05:23] out there on the streets, it was good to
see our mayor,
[1:05:29] our administrator, the police force, the
public works people, the fire
[1:05:35] department,
not just present, but doing above and
[1:05:39] beyond what their responsibility calls
for. I know I specifically caught the
[1:05:45] mayor on several occasions doing
steakouts.
[1:05:50] I actually brought her a meal tonight,
an ME so she'll never go hungry again.
[1:05:56] But I think it's
one of those jobs that you take a lot of
[1:06:01] criticism for because you have to make
on the spot decisions that may not be so
[1:06:07] acceptable by everyone given the
predicament at large. But to see that
[1:06:12] they're willing to be out there getting
their boots rolled up and and doing the
[1:06:17] work that is necessary to me was very
overwhelming and quite frankly proud to
[1:06:23] be a part of the council of this this
city as a result. So I want to say thank
[1:06:27] you to the the leadership also. Then
finally, I'd like to just put in a plug
[1:06:33] for continued
review until resolution is made on the
[1:06:39] ebikes.
I know I am seeing a huge insurgence
[1:06:45] of ebikes on our sidewalks
and I'm also seeing where safety is
[1:06:51] compromised to the fact that we're not
looking for pedestrians.
[1:06:56] We're taking ownership of the sidewalk
by the ebikes and that's concerning to
[1:07:01] me.
[1:07:04] » Thank you,
Council Member Hoskinson.
[1:07:08] » I just want to reiterate same thing. I
was so proud. I was literally in tears
[1:07:12] on Thursday when I stopped by to drop
stuff off because I was just in awe of
[1:07:17] the amount of time and everyone pouring
out their hearts. And
[1:07:22] uh my hearts also go out to everyone
that has struggled and lost things. It's
[1:07:28] just it's terrible. Um but I'm so
appreciative of our community, our
[1:07:32] leadership, everyone, our businesses,
and our residents.
[1:07:37] That's all.
>> Thank you.
[1:07:41] » Oh, nothing. I didn't even get to say
your name. Okay. [laughter]
[1:07:46] » Uh, Council Member Marietta,
>> I have two two things to share tonight,
[1:07:50] and I don't expect answers on either one
of these, but I know it's going it's
[1:07:54] coming. Uh, storm drains. I know we have
to get those inspected on. There was no
[1:07:59] flow of a lot of water. Uh Dennis
uh street has had a problem for a long
[1:08:05] time where even a small amount of water
comes in, it does not go anywhere for a
[1:08:12] long time. It basically seeps out.
>> Uh and then we had a uh lift station off
[1:08:18] of Water Street. I believe it is by the
fire station.
[1:08:23] » It went down. Yeah.
>> Yeah. It went down and uh it took a call
[1:08:29] to get somebody there. And I'm thinking
maybe we might want to have like an
[1:08:33] alarm or a backup pump or something
there because not only did some
[1:08:38] residents get the water, they got the
waste water also. And uh that's only
[1:08:44] because that lift station went down. So
we got we need I you know I know we just
[1:08:50] need to get something done for that. Uh,
and then crazy thing is we have storm
[1:08:56] drains plugged up and I come by the day
after water receded and there's people
[1:09:02] mowing their grass, throwing the grass
out
[1:09:06] 140. I just I don't know what to do
about that. Probably nothing you can't
[1:09:10] do. It's common sense that you shouldn't
be doing that and it's just plugging
[1:09:15] things up worse. So, we did at one time
we had cameras go down and check brains
[1:09:20] and all. Is that something we could
possibly do soon?
[1:09:24] » Yeah, we do that. And then of course
after the storms that took place, we
[1:09:29] have to go through and do a cleanout of
almost everything. Even culverts, we had
[1:09:34] trash cans flowing through culverts of
course that weren't there before the
[1:09:37] storm and made their way there. Um, so
there's going to be a lot of clean up
[1:09:40] and inspection that has to happen moving
forward. Um, I did learn a lot about
[1:09:44] lift stations over the last week, uh,
given the circumstances and, you know,
[1:09:49] some of it was simply because of the
flooding, right? I was just on a call,
[1:09:53] Mayor and I were on a call Sunday at
12:30 with Licking County EMA and other
[1:09:57] communities on that call were saying
that they experienced the sewer backup
[1:10:01] because of the amount of water and their
systems just couldn't keep up with it.
[1:10:06] So, we weren't alone in that. Um,
however, the conversations about
[1:10:11] generators and, uh, the proper power
supply on some of these lift stations,
[1:10:16] uh, moving forward, uh, it's going to be
a big investment and we're probably not
[1:10:20] going to be able to get every single one
of them taken care of, but we're going
[1:10:23] to prioritize and talk about that during
budget season. Tom and I had some
[1:10:27] dialogue about that uh, last week, but
that is on the list and uh, raising it's
[1:10:34] on priority as well given the
circumstances.
[1:10:36] » Yeah. And I believe this particular lift
station has been a problem for us in the
[1:10:41] past. I mean, it's more than once this
has happened. So,
[1:10:44] » I'll [clears throat] definitely look
into that as well. Thank you for
[1:10:46] bringing that up.
>> That's all I have.
[1:10:49] » I would say that on the way in tonight,
just at the creek down here, there is an
[1:10:54] 8 foot railroad tie alongside the road
that's just barely outside the travel.
[1:11:02] I think that was actually supposed they
anticipated it to be picked up today
[1:11:06] because it was a part of their debris.
Um I noticed that when I was coming back
[1:11:10] in too.
>> I just tag on one more with Tom with the
[1:11:15] lift station. There is a red light on
them. You can see whether they're on or
[1:11:19] off. But
>> um do we go around checking
[1:11:24] sump pumps? How many sump pumps are tied
into these sewer lines too?
[1:11:29] So, I can't speak to this directly, but
I do know that there was some testing
[1:11:33] that was done two years ago. Does that
sound about right? I'm looking for that.
[1:11:38] Um, where they were trying to determine
if that and I I don't believe there were
[1:11:42] many found if any at all. Does that
sound right? But I'll follow I'll follow
[1:11:46] up on that. That's been more just
dialogue that I've heard about uh in the
[1:11:50] economic development role and less in
this role, but I'll do some
[1:11:53] investigating. I I don't know how legal
we have a stand of going in and checking
[1:11:59] for sure to see if someone's got the
sump pump connected into it, but
[1:12:04] » they did the smoke test.
>> The smoke test is exactly the test that
[1:12:08] was done about
>> work if you've got a check valve on your
[1:12:11] something.
>> I can't speak to that. Um, I would be
[1:12:17] happy to look into it, but I can't speak
to that right now
[1:12:20] » because I it's not just the lift
stations going down. I know that I
[1:12:26] actually have a check valve on my line,
sewer line, and the pressure is so bad
[1:12:31] that it leaks past it a lot of times.
And it always when we have a heavy rain,
[1:12:36] it doesn't necessarily have to have a
lot of on the street, but uh I
[1:12:44] I question some of my neighbors of where
their sump pumps are going to.
[1:12:52] Well, not only that, spoutings, too.
>> So, I'm so sorry.
[1:12:58] » That brings up another question, too. A
lot of neighbors spoutings. I just
[1:13:02] noticed this today. One of my neighbors
coming off their house down over their
[1:13:05] yard right towards me. So, where are
some of they going? Are they going in
[1:13:10] this? You know,
yeah,
[1:13:15] we could do a lot of checking.
Would it be beneficial, m mayor, do we
[1:13:21] have a registry or can we create a
registry of those who are
[1:13:26] continually impacted by the flooding so
that we might maybe have a more
[1:13:32] proactive
response to those?
[1:13:36] if you have that short answer.
>> Uh we have um the 2D model and the work
[1:13:41] that the Army Corps of Engineers have
done that identify the flood plane and
[1:13:45] the major impacted areas. Um and then of
course just our familiarity with the
[1:13:50] village when things flood um has helped
with that. Um and then of course there
[1:13:56] are several homes in the area that are
in the flood plane which is easily
[1:13:59] documented. Um, so there's enough
between those things there's enough
[1:14:03] data, but of course, um, anytime anyone
sees any significant issues. A good
[1:14:08] example is, um, right before the flood,
I received a call from a resident on
[1:14:12] Dennison saying that their storm drain
uh, backs up regularly. Before that, I I
[1:14:17] didn't know that or I wouldn't have
known that they that they've experienced
[1:14:21] that. So, I would also encourage you
when you're talking to residents and
[1:14:25] they're bringing up these concerns to
make sure that they call administration
[1:14:28] and share these things so that we can
troubleshoot them um or at least like
[1:14:32] you mentioned document them because we
we can't see it all.
[1:14:35] » I'm more concerned for the elderly that
don't have a spouse
[1:14:40] » who are unable to help themselves.
>> Absolutely.
[1:14:46] So, um, I'm going to go in reverse order
of how I had planned to go just because
[1:14:51] it ties into so much of what you've
discussed tonight.
[1:14:54] um the tiff conversation,
that's a very real
[1:15:00] opportunity for us to work on improving
our lift stations, having backup um
[1:15:07] pumps and developing some type of
failsafe or backup situation so that
[1:15:14] when number one goes down, number two is
already at the ready. Um, those are all
[1:15:18] things that our neighbors are able to
use that TIFF funding for right now to
[1:15:24] make sure that we they don't have those
issues. Um, I know it's a hard
[1:15:28] conversation, but I really do feel like
voters are being crystal clear about
[1:15:33] they do not want to pay one penny more
of real estate taxes. So, these taxes
[1:15:38] that are being collected, we need to use
them effectively. Um also I have not
[1:15:43] seen our um fire district go without um
whereas it's very clear we are very
[1:15:50] behind on paving right and we're behind
on addressing the inflow and
[1:15:55] infiltration of storm water into our
sewer system. So I don't like pitting
[1:16:01] these services against once one another,
but we are spinning plates. And so we
[1:16:07] need to pay attention to the plates that
are slowing down tragically
[1:16:12] um to the point where it's unsustainable
for our very residents.
[1:16:17] Uh I also want to say about common
sense. Someone said something about it's
[1:16:21] common sense to not blow grass into the
street. You're absolutely right. Unless
[1:16:27] you're a first-time home homeowner,
unless you're a first-time renter or
[1:16:31] you've never had to mow your own grass
before, um our kind words to our
[1:16:36] neighbors to let them know, hey, did you
know that that's dangerous for
[1:16:40] motorcycles and it ends up in our storm
water? Um those don't have to be super
[1:16:46] uncomfortable conversations. We can all
be part of that solution. So, keep that
[1:16:50] in mind if the opportunity presents
itself.
[1:16:54] Um, we have residents who literally had
standing water in their home last week
[1:17:00] and we have residents who the water came
so high it destroyed their HVAC uh duct
[1:17:07] work. We have people who lost their AC
and heating units. Um, so while we have
[1:17:14] survived the immediate, we do have
people that have very real needs right
[1:17:18] now. Um, if you know of somebody who's
looking for a way to connect and be
[1:17:22] meaningful, there are lots of volunteer
opportunities. You need only reach out
[1:17:27] to um, village administrator Meisner or
the churches or the uh, Caitlyn. Um, we
[1:17:34] have lots of places to reach out. So,
please, if somebody says they haven't
[1:17:38] found a way to to help, please connect
them with one of us.
[1:17:44] Um,
last week, ironically, I spent the
[1:17:47] beginning of the week at the One Water
Conference. And so, we were talking
[1:17:51] about um treating water so it's
drinkable, treating um wastewater so it
[1:17:58] can be reclaimed, and also dealing with
storm water. There were some amazing
[1:18:03] sessions. I think part of my staff was
uh concerned because when I came home I
[1:18:09] wrote an opus about all the things I
want to do um to make our water sewer
[1:18:15] rates more fair. Um those who use a lot
require a lot of our services. Those who
[1:18:22] have peaks, right, they're using much
much more in the summer and not very
[1:18:28] much in the fall. We still have to
maintain the same level of uh competency
[1:18:34] and ability to provide that all year
round. I can't, you know, uh send half
[1:18:39] my staff home for, you know, for six
months because we don't have as much
[1:18:44] need as much capacity. Um I'm saying
that because I want us to be more
[1:18:50] aggressive about making sure that those
who use the most water pay the most for
[1:18:54] water and that our residents aren't
carrying that burden. Um, now the hard
[1:19:00] part about that is it's not going to be
a simple mathematical model like we have
[1:19:05] right now. So I want us to be prepared
to have some tough conversations about
[1:19:09] what some of that might look like. But
remember, even a 1% change in your
[1:19:14] trajectory in the long run makes a huge
difference for these budgets. And so it
[1:19:19] will empower us to do some of this work
that we need to be able to do.
[1:19:24] I want to say that I was um delighted to
receive phone calls from um Troy
[1:19:30] Balderson. We also uh received phone
calls from uh Bernie Mareno. We received
[1:19:35] phone calls from uh Senator Schaefer and
Representative Miller in the Ohio level
[1:19:41] calling with very clear communications
of if there are things that we can be
[1:19:46] doing at the state level to help
residents, please let us know. So, if
[1:19:51] you know of anyone who is permanently
displaced or will be displaced from
[1:19:55] their home for weeks, we really need to
know that because we need to communicate
[1:20:00] it up so that they can set funding
aside.
[1:20:04] I want to thank my team. Um, this last
week was really intense. Um, I can't
[1:20:11] believe I didn't yell at anybody.
I was so tired. Oh my goodness. Maybe
[1:20:17] it's because Yeah. Okay. Anyway, so
um I'm just really really proud to work
[1:20:23] with a team uh that I have and I really
appreciate people just saying, you know
[1:20:28] what, I'm gonna work night shift because
that's going to be better for my team.
[1:20:31] I'm going to do this. I'm going to do
that. Um every single person uh that I
[1:20:36] asked, many people I didn't even have to
ask anything. So, thank you. Um and I am
[1:20:43] taking a vacation. You may want to mark
your calendars. Uh September 1st through
[1:20:48] 8th I will be away. If we have something
scheduled we need to reschedu but I
[1:20:52] think you can all agree I probably need
a timeout. Um I want to second uh
[1:20:57] Britney's comment about OML. I really do
hope folks will take advantage even if
[1:21:02] it's just for a day. I'd love to see
your faces there. I'd love to be able to
[1:21:05] introduce you to other folks who are
doing the work that you're doing so you
[1:21:08] can steal their great ideas and bring
them home for us. And then um
[1:21:15] bikes, ebikes and bikes. So I want to
say that we um have been talking and
[1:21:22] thinking a lot about bikes and cats and
these things, right? Um but our legal
[1:21:29] team has been absolutely
focused, thank goodness, on um the Ohio
[1:21:35] Supreme Court case, for which I'm very
thankful. He keeps his head down, but
[1:21:39] it's true. Um, I know he's been working
very hard on that. So, a little grace on
[1:21:44] some of the legislation. I sure would
appreciate that for Solicer Rose. Um,
[1:21:49] but we will get to these things. Um,
please don't feel that we're not paying
[1:21:54] attention to them. We just need a little
more time. And that is my update.
[1:22:01] We have this time as a second goound for
visitor comments. Any visitor comments?
[1:22:07] Okay.
[1:22:10] Unless otherwise noted, it's understood
that council members have reviewed the
[1:22:13] expense report provided and have no
questions.
[1:22:19] Just want to draw your attention to the
meeting and event schedule this coming
[1:22:22] Sunday at 7 p.m. It's the art and music
miniseries. Can you tell us details?
[1:22:27] » Dueling pianos.
>> Oh yeah, they had to cancel. They were
[1:22:30] on their first one. They were the first
one we had scheduled. So they're excited
[1:22:34] to be back in August.
>> Fantastic. Um we will be closed
[1:22:38] obviously on Labor Day. So the council
meeting has been moved to the adjacent
[1:22:42] Tuesday. Uh then we get into the pie
festival. What is this like fifth year?
[1:22:49] » Yes.
>> Yeah. The fifth one.
[1:22:52] » Um and I'm sure there are plenty of
opportunities to volunteer. If you have
[1:22:58] not yet def, you know, identified ways
to do that, please do so. Uh and then we
[1:23:03] get back into planning and zoning,
council meetings and combined council
[1:23:08] committees.
Again, that combined council committees
[1:23:12] is actually a work session.
So, um yeah, any other good of the order
[1:23:20] comments or anything? I would like to
say it's good to see people show up
[1:23:24] tonight and
express their concerns other than water
[1:23:30] and I just appreciate people getting
involved and caring about this.
[1:23:37] That's it. Thank you.
>> Thank you.
[1:23:41] » Okay. I am seeking a motion to adjourn.
[1:23:49] I have a motion from council member
Marietta and a second from council
[1:23:52] president Wolf. Roll call, please.
>> Yes.
[1:23:57] » Yes.
>> Mr. Carpenter.
[1:23:58] » Yes.
>> Miss Hoskinson? Yes. Mrs. Chapman? Yes.
[1:24:01] Mr. Maretta?
>> Yes.
[1:24:03] » Thank you, council. This meeting of the
village of Hebrin council is now
[1:24:06] adjourned