Good afternoon. Welcome to the regularly
scheduled city commission meeting for
Tuesday, July the 28, 2026. If you would
please stand with me for the pledge of
allegiance.
[clears throat]
I pledge algiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the
republic for it stands. One nation under
God, indivisible with liberty and
justice for all.
» Thank you. Can we have a call for
attendance, please?
>> Commissioner Puit
>> here.
>> Commissioner Harus present. Commissioner
Thomas here.
>> Mayor Stton
>> here. Uh, first off, I just wanted to
say you might recognize a new face on
the commission, and I wanted to call him
out because he never gets embarrassed.
Uh, this is Chief Josh Dixon. He is our
acting city manager at the moment. Our
city manager is out of town. Our
assistant city manager is on Zoom and
Josh will be sitting in as the acting
city manager for the remainder of the
night. Uh, thank you for being here.
Appreciate it.
>> Thanks, John.
>> Uh, first up, if we could have members
of Christian Community Outreach and
anybody who is here to support them come
up to the podium, please.
We are proud to recognize Henderson
Christian Community Outreach for their
outstanding partnership with the city of
Henderson through the utility assistance
fund and for their unwavering commitment
to serving our community. For many
years, Henderson Christian Community
Outreach has been a trusted resource for
local families facing hardships. Through
their compassionate staff and dedicated
volunteers, they provide assistance that
helps individuals and families navigate
difficult times with dignity and hope.
One of the many ways they serve our
community is by administering the city's
utility assistance fund. Through this
partnership with the city of Henderson
and Henderson Water Utility, Henderson
Christian Community Outreach works
directly with eligible residents to
provide financial assistance with their
water utility bills, helping families
maintain access to an essential service
while offering guidance toward long-term
stability. Their team handles each
application with professionalism, care,
and respect, ensuring that assistance
reaches those who need it most. This
partnership allows the city to extend
its support to residents through an
organization that has earned the trust
of our community. Beyond the utility
assistance fund, Henderson Christian
Community Outreach provides emergency
financial assistance, food resources,
and connections to additional services
that strengthen families throughout
Henderson County. Their mission is
rooted in compassion, collaboration, and
a genuine desire to improve the lives of
others.
>> All right. I just wanted to say on
behalf of the city of Henderson that we
appreciate everything that Christian
Community Outreach does. And I did want
to provide just a little story. So last
month, I think it was last month uh
called Susan and uh and we talked about
uh there's some money that the city and
the water department had set aside uh
about a year and a half ago for water
bills to help people with uh who who
needed assistance basically.
>> And uh and the commission decided that
hey, we've got 25 $30,000 left in that
fund. uh we'd like to loosen the
requirements and we up the level of from
poverty level to 200% of the poverty
level uh and then reset the clock so
everybody would be eligible and Susan was was uh was all about it like
as soon as I called her she's like oh my
gosh this is great we love doing this
stuff and uh and so we just like your
spirit uh and every time we get a chance
to partner with you guys and your
organization it has worked out
wonderfully you do so much for the
community and on behalf of the city of
Henderson I just wanted to present you
with this community spotlight award and
you have a podium. If you'd like to use
it, you are welcome to say a few words
and I'll get this to you in a minute.
We'll take a picture after you get done
talking.
>> Okay. Well, it's going to be quick.
Thank you. Thank you all. This community
is huge with support. We are 40 years
this year and that is huge. That's a
long-standing relationship with the city
um with families of Henderson County.
And so it's an honor to still be here
and to be in a role that we can still
meet the need with the rising cost of
groceries and everything that's going on
in this world. Um hopefully we're a
little bit of a bright light to do with
groceries and what we have on hand for
staple items now and the partnerships
that we develop with you and other uh
agency partners. So thank you for the
honor and the the trust that you have in
us as an organization. It means a lot.
>> Yeah.
>> So
>> thank you.
>> Oh, thank you guys. You guys, can you
join me after
[laughter]
two?
» All right, here we go.
>> Perfect.
>> Thank you. Thank you for your service.
[applause]
» Thank you. Thank you.
>> Thank you.
» All right. Next up, I'm going to turn it
over to our acting city commissioner and
current fire chief, Josh Dixon, and he's
going to recognize a few new employees.
>> Yes. So, we have a couple of new
employees we want to recognize. If I
could get um our public works director,
Brian Williams, and Mr. Landon Buckman
to come up.
» Okay, we're here. What do you want us to
do?
>> Introduce him.
>> Okay, this is Landon Buckman. He's in
PWI. Uh Landon has been with us for one
week. U so far everything is great. So
fire away at him.
>> Landon, so this has been the best week
of your life.
>> I
[laughter]
he said he applied in April and it took
until now to get on and he couldn't
hardly wait.
>> Okay. Hey, so what uh just out of
curiosity, a serious question, what what
brought you to the city of Henderson for
employment?
>> I heard it was a good place to work and
had great benefits.
>> Oh, good. Good. Good deal.
>> Well, we certainly thank you for coming
on board. We appreciate it. Brian's
really good. uh boss to have. Uh so I
think you're in good hands.
>> Thank you, sir.
>> Welcome.
>> Well,
wow. I like that.
>> It's a good place.
>> All right. Next, can I get uh Chief
Bolan and Mr. Cade Hicks to come to the
podium?
» Good afternoon.
>> So, Cade is about our favorite type of
hire we could possibly get. So,
typically we hire people, send them off
the academy, and all their training.
Well, he comes to us already trained and
it's rare that we get somebody from a
bigger city. So, he's a officer in
Lexington that is coming back home to
Henderson. So, we're thrilled to have
him.
>> All right. And and same thing for for
you. So, what brought you to Henderson
specifically?
>> Well, I grew up here in Henderson my
whole life. I graduated high school
here.
>> Yep.
>> Um I did the job in Lexington for a year
and then me and my wife decided we
needed to be closer to friends and
family and I wanted to serve here in my
hometown. So,
>> awesome. Welcome back. Before you go
back, tell them our connection.
>> Oh, yeah. He was my He was my basketball
coach.
>> Oh, there you go. I hear that.
[laughter]
Tell him that was good. I was good.
[laughter]
>> Yes.
>> Hey, welcome. Welcome back. We
appreciate having you and uh and
hopefully it's for for a long time. So,
you guys looking to get settled back in
town, too?
>> Yes, sir.
>> Good deal. Welcome back home. Thank you
for coming. Appreciate it. Yes, sir.
>> Yes, sir.
>> Yes.
>> There you go. [applause]
All right. Next up, we've got a
presentation from Missy Vanderpool and
Henderson Economic Development.
>> Hello. I'm going to come up and bring
some reports for you.
>> Close.
>> Long time.
>> Not seeing you to read all of it.
» Thank you.
Oh, that's okay. Thank you.
Um, so thank you all for um allow me to
come present to you all. If you all
remember, um, it's been over a year ago.
We talked about KPDI, the Kentucky
Product Development Initiative, and the
site that you all own with the Henderson
Water Utility on 425. We are
affectionately calling that Triangle
Point. Um it looks like a triangle. So
um Triangle Point is located on 425
bypass. We applied for the KPDI
uh grant and were awarded that a grants.
And so the grant was for due diligence
reports. The first step in marketing a
site. Um the first thing any potential
industrial client's going to ask for is
the due diligence reports. So, we have
to start with there to know where we're
where we can go with the site. Um, and
so those those reports came back and are
completed and I wanted to share that
with you all. Um, also to talk about
what's next with that site. So, um, the
reports came back really good. Um, the
environmental, there were no concerns
with environmental, um, geotech, all the
things, um, that we needed to do. We had
an alta survey done. Um, the site sits
positioned really well for development.
there was utility infrastructure put in
for um Pratt Industries and so that
infrastructure is there and ready to
serve on this site. Again, it's 56
acres. Um one of the things that won't
come to a surprise to most of you all um
is there will be some soil stabilization
needed on that site. Um we've seen that
on many developments in Henderson.
Pretty much anything we've developed is
part of our um geological makeup um with
our soil. So, um, some soil
stabilization would be needed on the
site. Couple other things, um, that we
learned through this process. And I
should have said, uh, QK4 did this work
with some partners, but QK4 is who we,
um, had do the due diligence work. They
did a lot of the work on the 425 bypass
site where Pratt is now located. And
just as a reminder, this is adjacent
just to the west of uh, the Pratt
property. So, one of the things um that
was recommended from QK4 for next steps
um would be a grading plan for that
site. Uh we would be able to balance
that with the dirt, but there's about
260 cubic yards of dirt work that's
needed to be done, some soil
stabilization, and some entrance it in e
eress ingress on that site. So, um,
we're fortunate that there are two
access points from 425, um, but we need
to look at some improvements that would
be needed to get those access sites, um,
through KYTC.
And so, just wanted to give you that
quick report on the we've completed the
KPDI. Um, the total cost of that initial
assessment or due diligence reports was
about $160,000.
Um, in all total, the grant was for
about 140,000. So total out of pocket is
been about $20,000. Um we split that uh
we haven't seen those invoices come
through yet, but as it's anticipated we
would split that between the city and
the water utility. Uh when we we first
did this purchase of that land, that was
something we discussed. So I wanted to
talk just a little bit about next steps.
KPDI is open for the next round. I
personally think that this may be the
last round of KPDI as it exists now. um
this is approved every year through the
legislature. Um and so I think that what
we'll see in the future is some
different form of product development,
but in the way it sits now, um I think
this will be the last round for that.
And so I anticipate that this would be
the last round. Um we are now what's
designated as a heritage county.
legislation made some ch legislator made
some changes last year to Kentucky
incentives and to the so the map they
designated us as a heritage county and
um so with that being said we are now
allowed up to $2.5 million of grant
money through Kentucky product
development initiative for projects and
with that also in our population there's
a formula they use we are required to
have a 20% match on any KPDI project.
So, um, a $2.5 million project, we're
looking at $500,000 would have to be
local match. So, not saying that we
would spend $2.5 million on the next
project, but just for those numbers for
reference. So, I think next steps, what was recommended from um QK4 would
be raising the house that sits on that
site. I talked to you all about that
before. Um, but that the house being
there limits what type of development
can be in there. And I should have said
if you see the picture on the front of
this um this made me very excited. I was
really concerned about what size
building could fit on that site. Um and
this is realistically this it's over a
million square ft of what QK4 says can
fit on that site with having parking and
all the access that they would need for
truck traffic and things like that. So
that's really exciting that that size of
a manufacturing facility could fit on
that site. Um, so next steps again would
be raising that house. Um, the dirt work
to grade that to be truly shovel or
build ready. Um, and potentially some
work for the access points off 425.
So the letter of intent for KPDI, it's
just a letter that I would need to
submit that says, hey, we're looking at
submitting for a project and this is
what the scope of the project could be
is Friday. I anticipate submitting that
letter. there's no commitment, financial
commitment at that point. When we get to
submitting the request for information
in September, that's when we will need
to discuss what the matching what the
total scope of the project would be, and
what how the matching funds would come
into play. But I just kind of wanted to
give you this intro to where we've been,
where we are, and where we think the
next steps for that site is. Uh we have
just really started marketing that site
and have already seen some interest. Um
we have I've talked with the mayor about
this. We have submitted that site
already um for an industrial type
project. That's very preliminary and I
don't want anyone to think that tomorrow
we're going to have a big announcement.
Um that's just the first step of saying
hey this site is here and available in
Henderson, Kentucky.
>> Any questions?
>> So you don't need any formal action from
us today?
>> No.
>> But it sounds like sometime maybe later
on in August. Yes. You're going to come
back and at that time we need to
>> authorize do some planning on what the
project looks like. I anticipate in the
letter that we'll put that we are
looking at [clears throat] a grading
plan that raising of the house the
things we talked about and that total
those things total from the estimates
that QK4 gave us is over $3 million. Not
saying that we have to do all those but
this is the whole step so that if there
is another round of KPDI the next year
or some other form they know what our
long-term plan is because we know that
economic development is the long game.
It's not the short game. And so, you
know, we may be able to only do this
portion of the of the project this year.
Um, but moving it out forward to what
could be next.
>> And deal. Anybody have any questions or
concerns or suggestions, anything like
that?
>> No, thank you for looking at it.
>> Yeah, I appreciate the partnership. Um,
so fortunate if you go through this
book, all the partnerships are listed.
So, I appreciate the partnership um and
the work on the future development of
that site.
>> Thank you.
>> Thanks. And and I will say
>> economic development is sometimes like
planting a plum tree. Uh where you plant
a seed now, but it may take five or six
years before it bears fruit.
>> And uh and so I I admire what you're
doing now and what we're doing now
because it's these things are necessary
for the future growth and future
industrial builds in Henderson. So yeah.
>> Yeah, I appreciate that. And just want
to just one little thing that I wanted
to mention also in 2019 we a we were
awarded a KPDI. We were a pilot program
for this KPDI. We were one of the one of
three in the state that received funding
that [clears throat] first year and that
is where Pratt sits now. So, just a
reminder that KPDI works. Um, it is an
investment and it's the long game as you
just mentioned. So, thank you.
>> Good deal. Thank you, Missy. Appreciate
it.
>> All right. With that, we have a consent
agenda. The consent agenda contains the
minutes of the July 21st, 2026 called
meeting. Resolution number 52-26
resolution accepting human resources
report dated July 28, 2026, approving
all actions contained within and
authorizing the mayor to execute any
necessary contracts for employment.
Resolution number 53-26, resolution
approving the city manager to execute
funding agreements with certain
nonprofit organizations for fiscal year
2027 consistent with the city of
Henderson fiscal year 2027 budget and
municipal order number 64-26 approving
NSAFE incorporated consulting contract
for consultation services of the city of
Henderson's landfills permitting and
regulatory compliance including closure
activities and authorizing the mayor to
execute the agreement.
>> All right. Do we have any item any
commissioner would like to pull for
further discussion
hearing? Hearing none, I'll entertain a
motion to approve, please.
>> We have a second.
>> Second.
>> Roll call, please.
>> Commissioner Puit.
>> I.
>> Commissioner [clears throat] Harkus.
>> I.
>> Commissioner Thomas.
>> Hi.
>> Mayor Stton.
>> I. U. Next up, we have the second
reading of an ordinance amending chapter
13, nuisance relating to clutter.
>> Ordinance number 17-26, ordinance
amending chapter 15, nuisances. An
ordinance amending chapter 15 nuisances,
article 1 and general section 15-1,
prohibition of the code ordinances of
the city of Henderson.
>> All right. Uh do we have a motion to
approve, please?
>> So moved.
>> We have a second. Second.
>> All right. Before we have any other
discussion, uh we did have one person
sign up who would like to speak to us. I
think about this. Is this Dean? Is this
where you wanted to speak, sir?
>> All right. Dean Spooner. Uh if you would
if you'd come up to the podium and
repeat your name, tell us your address
and tell us what's on your mind, sir.
>> All right.
Hi.
>> I'm Dean Spooner. Uh Reverend Spooner.
Um uh 212 [clears throat] Barker Road.
Um, I work a day job so I had to take
time off and if it was in Henderson I
would have had to anyway but I my day
job's in Owensboro so that I'm here just
it's no small thing from my perspective
and I know you guys are very respectful
and appreciate things like that. When I
look at the proposed ordinance uh 17-26
uh the nuisance clutter, I know I can I
have a good idea what you guys are
dealing with and what you're trying to
do uh for the good, but you know,
there's always going to be exceptions
among us. Um there are in my opinion,
probably yours and everyone, there are
lazy people and slob people and there
are neat people and all this, right?
and the law can kind of reduce and
eliminate um clutter and nuisance, but
you're never going to get away with it.
Someone's always going to be a knob. And
you guys know this, and this is the
challenge, I think of this, but when I
come to section 15-1B
and under 0.1,
it just I think it goes a little too far
here. An accumulation of any item, even
if in good condition and orderly,
constitutes a nuisance if it exceeds
what is reasonably necessary for
ordinary residential use. As a citizen,
[clears throat] you, the city
government, are going to define what is
ordinary residential use. And how
[clears throat] are items stored on a
personal property, private property, in
good condition and an orderly manner,
constituting a nuisance?
how or inconsistent appearance on
private and I'm emphasizing private
property. Some people have more means
than others. Some have more wealth and
options than others do. And I just see
this as an if you pass this as an
intrusion on private property and on the
citizen. And I think when you deal with
this issue, it's the same with like our
um our peace officers, our police, and
our courts. they could be much more
efficient and effective if they weren't
hamstring by those uh bill of rights
those those first five particularly
right and so I'm also concerned about
this that as you go on this you need as
government you need to tread very very
lightly on people's private property I
know that's a I'm pretty think that's a
concern of each and every one of you but
I'm thinking that this is going too far
and when I go to section 52B
and then it's like the presence of more
than 10 substantially similar items of
the same general type and then there's
arbitrary list arbitrary number.
Um I mean does this include orderly
stacked stored in good condition
firewood to point C that's under tarp or
plastic. And so this is Pandora's box
here and it's intruding and then this is
going to change or grow and be and the
very fact in section two there a
property owner may rebut this
presumption
by requesting a hearing before the code
enforcement board. To me that is a self-
admission that this ordinance is already
admitting that it is overreaching in the
private property. I would have you rebut
this presumption from this proposed
ordinance. Why put the burden on me
suddenly because someone complains
against me and then I have to appear
before a board of people I didn't even
vote for and defend my property and go
pay out for legal expenses myself
for for for what? So, I I just see
there's room for grave error here and uh
I oppose the adoption of this as it
stands. And you're welcome to come by
212 Barker Road right now or later
[clears throat] this week. I think my
property is in good order, reasonably
stored and stacked. Uh you won't find
anything under a tarp or piece of
plastic. But you know what? If I so
choose on my personal property to want
to do that for a while, my wife and I, I
don't think it's any of your as a city
government officials business.
I understand the alleyways, the
sidewalks, and public safety aspect of
things here. There's some you got a good
thing, but I think some of these points
I just raised, I think are just too wide
open, too problematic. And I just wanted
to share that with all of you. So, thank
you respectfully.
>> Thank you.
>> Appreciate it.
>> Yeah.
>> And and I have uh before you take off,
>> de
I was just going to vouch for you. I've
had a conversation with you at your
house before
>> and I've never have I didn't notice then
that you kept an an orderly house. I
thought it was an So, yeah.
>> Well, and you know, you know, we all can
be I think this is more at the
neighborly level.
>> I wish we could do [clears throat] this
better at the neighborly level. And if
my neighbor has their lawn, you know,
I'll say I generally start with
something else. You can be a horse's
butt to your neighbor, but just be kind.
Sometimes just ask them to mow their
lawn for them. Some, you know, if we can
just help out one another and leave
that, maybe encourage that. But when the
more you ratchet down on what I've just
highlighted, I think it's going too far
and opening up too much into an
intrusive area that's going to have to
change or be worked. And then you put
the citizen like me now suddenly, we're
all put under the
you know, I mean, under the burden of
defending ourselves
by some board or whatever. So, anyway,
thank you.
>> Thank you for coming. We appreciate it.
[clears throat] U Don, I think you and
Steve might uh might have had some
things to to talk about about this
ordinance.
>> Well, um first I'm going to say that I
appreciate you coming. Uh whenever you
write a warning not on news, you're
really trying to balance the rights of a
property owner to enjoy their property
um and use their property with the
rights of the neighbors to be able to
enjoy their neighborhood that are safe,
that are clear from clutter that don't
um negatively affect their value. And so
what has happened for us in the last few
years is we continue to get complaints
about clutter uh and the way that our
clutter ordinance was written. There
were many complaints that we could not
do and I showed you photographs
um on two different occasions. Rocky to
the commissioner to get instruction from
you all as to how you would like to do
this. One of the issuings became how do
we know what's excessive? Like, and I
showed you um a house that had just
numerous bicycles lining up in front of
it, numerous. And so, and we had
received repeated complaints about that
property. And I know that several of the
commissioners here had received the
express complaint. So we wanted to make
it clear as to the property owners
understand [clears throat]
when you say what trees will necessary
set a standard that they can measure 10.
But if 10 if you don't believe in your
home or your yard that 10 is the
appropriate number, you have the right
to have the code of course report. You
don't need an attorney. I don't think
we've ever had Well, we had one
demolition where we had a person
represented by an attorney at 5:30 on
the fourth Monday of the of the uh month
and just come and explain. They have
always been very open about it and
reasonably, but at some point we had to
set a more defined standard so that we
could go out and address the issues that
we kept having. The other issues that we
just kept having over and over, not only
is like not items in disrespect, but in
excessive amounts was the items that are
in on driveways and car porch, front
porches, back porches where you can see
them from a reasonable view. And so, um,
we also show you photographs of those.
And so, in this situation, we have
expanded the clutter ordinance in this
sense, but we've really clarified it so
that our code enforcement officials when
they go out to see um these complaints
and we are complaint driven at this
point. We are complaint driven. So, we
do not have code enforcement officers
out looking. they go out to respond to
res to to complain that they have the uh
right to file a notice of violation and
recognize that the way the code
enforcement works if you get a notice of
violation that gives you x amount of
days to remedy it no problem. If it's
not repeated within that amount of time,
then there's a citation. At that point,
you have the right to come to the code
enforcement court and say you well, you
actually have two rights. You can clear
it up before code enforcement gets
withdrawn and we don't do anything or
you can come to code enforcement court
and explain why you believe that this
act this does not qualify under the
definition of butter. And that's what's
written as a rebuttable presumption. So
that's how that was constructed
[clears throat] and and we brought it
back to you all and you know I wish we
could write the perfect ordinance. Um
they're always and I believe when we
presented it to you last time you know
we knew that there we may have to come
back again but it's always about
balancing you know the city's police
powers um property rights because people
have the right I do also want to say
that you can have an accumulation of
items under our ordinance that just
can't be an ordinary view. So if you
want to have an accumulating amount of
items, you can have that on your
property. It just can't be ordinary. So
I hope that
>> No, no, no. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah.
[clears throat] This is this has been a discussion this Oh, Steve, please come
up.
>> Uh I saw you heading up here. This is
this has been a a part of an ordinary
discussion or part of a discussion that
we've had at meetings now for a few
months. Uh, and we've talked about a lot
so far, but Steve, go ahead and and uh
>> I mean, it would be great if in the
ordinance we can put treat your neighbor
as you want to be treated, but that's
just not enforceable. Um, and and really
what we're doing is we're trying to
address those places where um it's in
someone's backyard. You know, it's it's
not a problem if it's not in your
backyard. Uh, but we're getting calls
from people who have trash. uh their
neighbor is is is throwing all their
trash bags in the backyard, you know, or
and mice are coming and bugs and there's
mosquito infestations, you know, pools
left unattended, you know, things like
this. These are the things we have to
deal with, but we can't really uh some
of the things um are are really hard to
enforce. Um and uh so we're trying to
address those things that are difficult.
This is difficult.
>> It is. It is. I don't care any way you
spend it, whoever you are, this is very
difficult. We want balance of of power
in the hands of the people, but we also
don't want the people to wreck each
other, you know. So, we have that
balancing act of when does this become
destructive to my property value?
You That's a good question. If I'm
trying to sell my house and I've got
somebody next door with all kinds of
stuff in the back of a trailer that's
been there for 3 months and everybody
that's coming to my house sees that and
they can't I can't sell my house. When
does that become the issue? So we have
that balance. We don't want to take all
the power away from citizens
but we also don't want citizens to
control each other at the same point. So
we're trying to create something that is
actually enforcable that is fair and
that ain't easy. [laughter] That is a
hard thing to do.
>> So, we haven't really changed a lot.
What we did change is the number. Yes,
we changed the number uh of of of items
someone can have. We did put a number on
that because really um you can have 100
bicycles in your basement, not a
problem. When you have 20 bicycles in
the front yard of your house and that's
impacting my property value, that's kind
of a problem. Uh you can have as many
trash bags inside your house lining up
the hallway. I don't care as long as no
one else sees it and it's not impacting
your neighbors. It's about treating your
neighbor the way you want to be treated
and and we can't enforce that. But there
is a balance in there we're trying to
find and that's really what's before
you. Uh how are we going to create the
balance that's needed here as a
commission? You guys are the ones that
get to decide what goes in our
ordinances. And I don't envy you guys
that decision. We brought this before
you to try to help. We're really here to
help you however we can.
>> So ultimately the decision is on you in
your guys's hands. Uh and we've
developed this, you know, to try to help
you in any way we can. And again,
[clears throat]
um this isn't easy,
>> right?
>> But we want to do what's right. You
know, at the end of the day, let's do
the best thing.
>> So,
uh that's where we are.
>> Okay.
>> Thank you.
>> Bless you guys. Steve, stay.
>> I read it. I read the ordinance. Me and
the mayor, we were talking before the
meeting and I that's the one kind of
thing that jumped out on the agenda
today was to me,
we know the balance. Just like in my
house, I don't want somebody over. Hey,
if I'm sell my house, you got a whole
bunch of junk over, you know, I Hey,
y'all got to get him. I get that. But it
looked like to me it went a little
further than it should. Especially on
some stuff about tarping, you know,
having tarps. If somebody goes to the
extent to try to cover it up, I think we
should give them the benefit of the
doubt.
>> That's a good question. I mean, we have
the only reason we brought that is
because it was a very popular um
complaint. Uh we're not bringing you
complaints that are not like out there.
We're making them up. These are
complaints that come in our office all
the time. So, people complain about a
pile of junk in someone's yard and all
they do is they cover it up with a tarp
and then it's all it's not there
anymore, but the pile of junk is still
there. There's still rodents. there's
still stuff happening, right?
>> Uh it's just covering it like you know
>> commissioner for if you remember when we
came both times to present this we
present in September and then we present
it again that was a question that we put
forward we put pictures up and we asked
the commission do you want to prohibit
that or do you want to allow it and we
were instructed to prohibit it.
So just for me
>> when I read it, it was a lot of
>> what do I think
>> is clutter, you know, and
>> so something about that it it doesn't
hit me just right. But here's what I
really truly think I would want to do at
this point
>> for us to have something like a open
meeting with the public, have them
speak, tell them what we're thinking,
what we're trying to get to, and see can
we come to the middle. I just think that
would be better on certain this this
clutter thing
>> because
>> are the ones that are doing this are
they going to attend that meeting?
>> Well, at least
>> I would say probably not.
>> Well, at least we gave him a shot.
That's just me. I think because the
gentleman that spoke, Mr. Dean.
>> Yeah.
>> I I think he hit some great points
because when I did read it,
>> I told the mayor, I said, "Hey, some
stuff in here.
>> I don't know if
I know it's not easy.
>> Well, [laughter] and I'll tell you
where. So, so, uh, Commissioner Pru and
I did talk and, uh, I think we're coming
at it from from two different
viewpoints, which is healthy, which is
what you want on a commission. You want
different people to represent different
viewpoints, right? Um, I think I think
Reverend Spooner made a good point about
firewood especially, right? You know, if
you got firewood and you're living out
outside the side of your house and
people can see it and you got a couple
stacks of it, then that technically
violates what's on paper here. Uh but I
also think that uh one of the number one
complaints that I've gotten over the
years are codes related and it's not uh
it's hardly ever because of the
performance of the codes department. You
all are operating within the laws that
we provide to you to operate within.
>> Sure. Uh, and so if something says that
somebody hasn't cut their grass and you
go out and issue a citation and then
they have three weeks to cut their
grass, a lot of times they wait those
three weeks, they cut their grass and
then you have to start the process all
over again. If they're habitual
offenders, there's very little to do
there. And so what I'm seeing on paper
here is there is some room for open
interpretation for the codes department
which I don't think is necessarily
unhealthy because I believe that in
order to get to the things that are of
concern to people you for example the
bicycles you know early on I was reading
some stuff on the internet where Adam Bl
said something about bicycles on his
Henderson Live page uh where he said you
know what if all the neighbors came over
and parked their bikes there you're
going to be in violation of it. Well, I would think that we would be able to
have the discretion of a neighborhood
get together and a difference between
having that and junk bicycles par, you
know, piled up for 6 months that
somebody's been complaining about three
or four times and you don't have
anything to to enforce by.
>> And so for me, the the the by clarifying
the clutter, it gives you a little bit
more teeth when you need it,
>> but not more teeth when it's not needed.
Uh uh and and so that's kind of the way
that I'm taking it is that we we we
would create a framework for our codes
department to have a little bit more
teeth whenever it's needed whenever we
get these types of complaints because
one of the most frustrating things for
me over the years uh anytime we're in a
situation where we can't fix it is
frustrating for me. If somebody's got a
complaint and we can't fix it, it's
frustrating. And and so if this allows
you more teeth to fix certain situations
or to address certain situations, then
it it actually is helping to prop up the
freedom of people who want to live their
life happily without these types of
things next door to them. Uh and so
there's there's all different kinds of
angles to to look at from it. I'm
positive this wasn't uh some evil person
trying to to put her spin on it or his
spin on it from an elite standpoint and
all this other crap that people say
online, which I find a little
frustrating. Uh this is this is a this
is an exercise based on the the number
of complaints that we get and and uh the
sheer amount of of complaints that deal
with codes that you guys do not have uh
the ability to address. We're trying to
make it so that you can address them
more. Uh, and I did see some stuff in
here that uh it's not perfect. Uh, but uh uh I I do think it uh I do think
it's at a point where it does provide
for you the intent of what it's supposed
to provide. And that's just giving you a
little bit more teeth where you get an
honest complaint that you apply your
discretion and you're able to address it
versus getting a complaint, going out
and looking at it and not being able to
address it because we don't have it
written into our local laws. And so
there is a balance. So it's very
difficult.
>> Yep.
>> If a person has an open carport and you
ride behind and you see something, you
say, "Hey, y'all got to do something
with that." And they tarp it. Are they
in violation?
>> No. Currently, no.
>> I'm talking No, I'm saying once if we
were past this person has a carport, I
don't say they got 15 bicycles.
>> Mhm.
>> And they tarp them, but you can't see it
from the street, but it's under their
carport.
>> Yeah.
>> Are they in violation? Okay. Would be
with this from the street from ordinary.
So it would depend. So it would depend
where the you know in the carport.
>> So if it were in the back quarter of the
carport and you could not see it because
if the definition if you saw when you
reviewed it is from ordinary view.
>> It's where anybody can see.
>> Not from ordinary view from the street
then no it is not. But if it were within
ordinary view of the street,
>> see that's where my problem is.
>> But they could also tarp trash.
>> Well, I know. But
>> I know I know where we're trying to get
to because
>> we're here to help [laughter] you.
However,
>> I know where we're trying to get to, but
I I
>> you know, my my opinion is
>> I'm like think
I don't like government overreach at
all.
>> Yeah. But as a city, if you call and
complain on your neighbor, the worst
thing we can do is say, "We can't do
anything about it. Sorry." Which is
what's happening now. Because we don't
have the rights or the means to do this.
Now, if we put some teeth into it, we
can address these complaints. And I can
guarantee Steve not going out looking
for clutter. He's got too much other
stuff on his plate. At least we can
address complaints that we get. Now, now
if something happens like in the DARP
issue,
we can come back and address that again
just like we're doing now. We got an
ordinance now. We're addressing it now.
We're changing something in it two
months down the road. We go right back
and you build some of this stuff where
we want we screwed up on something.
Fine. Let's go fix it. You know, a month
down the road.
>> And the other thing is every month Steve
files a report. He files a written
report with the code enforcement board
every month as to what the complaints
were that they wrote up what the
citations were. He he does it every
month. So I'm not suggesting this that
this could be to address your issue is
that Steve can forward you all the
report that he forward the code
enforcement board every single month and
that way you would see are there any
clutter ordinances
violation that you all want to see with
targeting and that way uh I think that
might address what you're talking about
>> the repeaters
so Um, so that report's already in
existence. All it would be is you would
forward it not just to our coordinate
forward, but they would forward it.
So, and I do a great way of you all
being able to monitor where we are. Yes.
>> And and I do I think that's good to get
that report. You know, how many people
reporting different things, but I know
you're not out there doing that and I
know the calls that you get and we get
are for real.
>> Yeah. But when I read that whole
ordinance, that's just too much to me.
That's just too much of do I think what
I think is clutter. How many can you
just you can only have 10 post these are
brand new bicycles?
>> Is that clutter? I don't know. That's where I'm at. Well, it's I would
not be in agreement the way it is in
your yard. You know,
>> getting hung up on something like
bicycles too when that is really not
what we're talking about. We are talking
about those extreme examples that we
keep seeing, those extreme examples that
you keep getting calls on, we keep
getting calls on. And that is what it's
intended to help, you know. Um, and we
have to give them something to help in
that way. And it's hard and I I hate it.
is difficult.
But the the situations that we are
seeing, they are they're extreme. Um and it's unfortunate because I don't I
don't want to overstep either, but
people are taking
advantage. I know you are not out there
looking for wood piles.
We are talking about
the pictures that we're seeing because
we we have to we have to know those
pictures. We really do. That's right.
>> Just like the one call I keep getting
about the guy who keeps parking his
trailer.
>> Oh, yeah.
>> Yeah. So, I get all that.
>> But if we're going to have an ordinance
and we're going to make it work, we got
to make sure that it's right.
>> Absolutely.
>> If piles of wood like Miss Dean was
talking about, if that's going against
clutter and then we we pass this, we
need to fix it before we pass it. You
know, I don't think we it needs to be in
there and then say, "Okay, well, if
somebody gets cited for clutter and cut
firewood, we'll bring it back and do it
a month later." I don't think that's the
right thing to do. If you're going to
put it in, put it in, right? Put it in
the first time, right? Let's just do it.
It's no hairy to get to that. We can
pass this in two weeks. We could go say,
"Hey, let's if we got firewood and they
cover it up or whatever, how do we get
to this?" Uh let's don't say well let's
we have to sight him because it was in
there and make him go to a board make
him go through all jump through all the
hoops.
>> Well it's what's reasonably necessary
for a residential use of but imagine
that a pile of fire would be reasonably
necessary.
>> Okay. Now how much is not reasonably?
Who going give me that answer? Who can
determine how much is not reasonably?
Well, yes, with all things,
Commissioner, we we uh we have to give
some discretion or vote for portion, but
due process allows people to address
that.
>> Well, that's that's taking citizens
through something that we should define,
not that he's if he walks up there and
I've got a bunch of firewood, he may he
wow, he burn he's keeping a lot of heat.
>> Yeah, I was going to say firewood again
is not what we're talking about. Well,
but it's in there.
>> It's in there. I'm not worried about
what we're talking about. When you make
laws that can be used against someone,
>> you ought to make sure that it's right.
Not we not we weren't talking about you,
but since I'm here, I can still cite
you. That's not That's not how you do
it. You do it right. When I read a law,
>> that's how he's doing it.
>> When we read a law,
>> if a police officer stops me, he said,
"We didn't write the law up for that
personally." Yeah.
>> We we we're doing Well, let me speak.
Okay.
>> If a police officer stops me, he said
the law really wasn't written for this,
but it's in here and I I'm going to cite
you.
>> You're talking about abuse of power.
>> That's right. There you go.
>> We don't want abuse of power.
>> That's right. All I want you to do if if a guy's got firewood and we can sight
him, let's just say if it's firewood and
it's neatly stacked or whatever, that's
okay.
>> Let's just do it. Let's just say it.
Well, I mean there's there's always
checks and balances with law typically
so that we don't have abuse of power,
right?
>> So, I mean, whatever you guys want to
do. Like I said, this is your decision.
>> Whatever you guys want to do,
>> Don say we can pass this and go back and
amend it with firewood.
We want to put that in.
>> I mean, is it Harry to pass it today?
Why don't we amend it and pass it in two
weeks?
>> Well, I'm going to be quiet because I
know Josh is
>> just quick question. So say somebody
does call for a complaint and you go
address it.
>> Do they get an opportunity to correct
before it's taken to obviously cited and
taken to the company?
>> So there's always a notice of violation
and there's a certain period of days
they have to correct that. If it doesn't
get corrected then it goes to citation.
They have more days to correct it. If it
doesn't get corrected then we we stepped
down.
>> So good example I remember when we did
um a fine schedule for fire code
violations. One of the one of the one of
the big questions was that you all asked
me was are you going to go looking for
it? No, we're not going to go looking
for it. But it also again it gives us a
point where we can we do set a standard
that we can go by. And most of the time
I can tell you I I may be wrong, but I
don't think we've ever find anybody yet
>> for your fire.
>> No, not yet. But it it's but it's also
having that standard saying, "Hey,
>> this is what's got to be corrected and
we're going to give you x amount of days
to do that."
>> Operated that way.
>> And and two, so there are probably
thousands of exceptions that we could
think of
>> that we could add and it could be a
200page ordinance and I don't think we
want to end up there. No, I just I just
think we should add in
[clears throat]
>> especially like when I'm out in country
view,
>> I see people got stuff in their carports
and they and they got it tarped
and but you can see it, you know,
country roads are thin. I can see it
from the street. Is that clutter? I just
don't know if I'm going to tell them
what you got tarped up under there cuz I
can see it from the street. You're
breaking a law. I just don't know if I'm
there. Uh and [clears throat] and I
don't want to come back and amend
something if we can wait two weeks and
fix it and then pass it like that.
That's just me.
>> Commissioner, if you remember, that was
a question we had for the commission
>> and we asked for your direction on
tarping and the direction that was given
was to include tarping. So that was that
was
>> well it might have been a mistake if we added that tarping. I think
>> I think the the
>> we need to look at
>> I think the spirit of the tarping rule
has to do more so with rodent control
and things like that and and so so I I
think that that when our codes
department goes so first of all he Nolan
said we're not doing uh proactive things
we're doing reactive things so when we
receive complaint
>> complaint driven
>> yeah complaint driven thank you so
whenever they receive a complaint they
go out and investigate they don't go out
with a piece of paper in their hand and
a citation they go out and investigate
to see if it is in violation and and I
think there's some leeway there for them
to use their their their reason uh you
know their reasoning capabilities when
they go out
>> and Steve I think you're right on time.
Steve does a great job. He's not he's
not bullying anybody.
>> But I do think when I read a law if it
says if you got something tarped under
your carport and I can see it from the
street it's breaking the law. I think
our citizen deserve to know the law and
know when they're breaking the law. If
they're not breaking the law, then don't
put it in there. That's just me.
>> The ones who are abusing the TARP
situation, [clears throat] how do we
help them? How do we get to that? How do
>> that's the whole thing? That's right. I
get that because that's who it's
intended for and and how do we help
them?
>> Well, I think this I think this is a
this discussion is a good representation
that I know where we get there's a lot
of different opinions and we're not
going to we're obviously not going to
agree on it. However, I think we've got
all the information that we need. If
there are no additional questions or
concerns or suggestions or anything, I
think we've had a really healthy
discussion about it. And I think we're
at a point to where we should probably
know which way we're going to vote on
the issue.
>> U so if there's no objections, then uh
we've got a motion and a second. And
>> let me say this before we do.
>> Yes, sir.
>> Um and if we decide if we find out
something is wrong, one thing about this
council, we will come back and fix. We
will absolutely absolutely
>> absolutely but I I think uh well we
haven't done anything yet uh you know
and uh we we've had a discussion so
let's vote and however the vote turns
out you are exactly right you know
whatever we do if uh if we get out there
and we learn that it's a mistake we will
go back and correct it is you know but if it's not then we'll keep it in
place uh if we vote to do that. So like
to ask for a roll call please.
>> Commissioner Puit
>> no. Commissioner Hargus.
>> Hi,
>> Commissioner Thomas.
>> Hi,
>> Mayor Stton.
>> Hi.
>> All right. Thank you. And Reverend
Spinner, thank you for coming. I really
appreciate your information and thank
you for being so respectful. Really
appreciate it.
>> You're welcome. Thank you.
>> Um, next up, we have a municipal order
authorizing the purchase of a customuilt
barge.
>> Municipal order number 65-26. Municipal
order authorizing the purchase of a
customuilt barge gangway and accessory
handrail from Maritime Preservation and
Training Foundation LTD for the
furniture for sorry for the future
display and birthing of the PTF26
gunboat authorizing non-competitive
negotiation pursuant to KRS 45A 380
subsection 6 and authorizing the mayor
to execute all documents necessary to
complete the purchase.
>> We have a motion to approve. Please
move.
>> Do we have a second?
>> Second.
>> And Buzzy, are you on the line?
I am. Can you hear me?
>> I can I can I don't know that there will
be any questions because we've talked
about this now three or four times. Uh
but before we vote, does anybody have
any questions for Buzzy about the barge
purchase?
>> Everybody, I think we're I think we're
good. I think we got all the information
that we're going to need. Um roll call,
please.
>> Commissioner Puit,
>> I.
>> Commissioner Hargus.
>> Hi.
>> Commissioner Thomas. Hi.
>> Mayor Sten,
>> I uh thank you. Thank you. And then last
uh last before we go into executive
session, we've got a resolution
approving the submitt and acceptance of
a grant application for a new ATRV.
>> Resolution number 54-26, resolution
approving submission of an acceptance if
awarded of a grant under the Kentucky
Office of Homeland Security, state
homeland security grant program for an
armored tactical response vehicle in the
estimated total project amount of
$371,950.
>> Thank you. Can we mot?
>> So moved.
>> We have a second. Second, there's time
I'll have Chief come.
>> Yeah, absolutely. Uh Chief, do you mind
to come to
Commissioner Puit has a question for you
>> real quick? Um the price that we can get
this grant and the price uh it seems
affordable, but I just want to relay
this to you so that everybody watching
would understand. Evansville is one
beast. When it comes to crime, Hamilton
is a different beast. I don't want to
see this vehicle pull up every time we
see policemen in a neighborhood. One
reason why I don't want our people to be
intimidated by military style stuff.
>> So, one thing I could say is I was the
chief in Evansville when we bought
theirs and we did a very conscious roll
out of it and we took it to community
events everywhere. Um, like a couple
weeks ago we went to the summer sizzler
and fire department had the fire truck
out shooting water. I would foresee us
taking this to events like that, letting
kids get in it, letting them see the
inside of it, see what it is. These are
not like where there's guns mounted at.
You went toward the one with me, so
you've seen them.
>> They're a defensive tool. They're not an
offensive tool. They're to keep our
officers safe and to protect them. And
furthermore, if, god forbid, we have a
citizen gets shot or they're down
somewhere, we have an active shooter, a
bank robbery, a, you know, any kind of
community event, if they're down and
there's still shooting going on, we
don't have a way today to get to them
and get them out of there. With a
vehicle like this, we could pull up,
protect our officers, our first
responders, and get somebody out of
harm's way. So, it's a a defensive tool,
and we would educate the community on it
by taking it out, let them be in it. Um,
one of the things Henderson's been
involved with for years is the 911 gives
hope for the holidays toy drive. A lot
of time we get bicycles and stuff that
we can't give out like in a hospital. We
would take the Bearcat, fill it up with
bicycles and we'd get a Santa Claus and
we'd go around and just randomly find
kids and just have a Santa Claus hop out
and give them bicycles out of the back
of the Bearcats. So things like that we could do to build trust and for
the community to see that it's not a
tool that they need to be afraid of, but
something that's going to help them. And
I think all that's great, but what I was
trying to get across was
>> it we're not going to be using it for
everyone. Now, it it would be only if we
have high risk warrants or things. I
mean, you may once a month see us using
it, something like that.
>> Um, but it's not going to be all the
time, but we do have needs for it in
Henderson. And I think our number one
priority should be keeping our first
responders safe so they can help our
people, and this would do that.
>> Okay.
Any other questions? No. Does anybody
else have any questions for Chief Bolan?
We we had this discussion a while ago uh
you know and and the first time this
came to us it was it was costly and and
we said if you find a way to make it
less costly uh and more affordable then
uh then we could find a way to support
it and you found a way and so we don't
have the grant yet. I'm not overly
optimistic we get it but
>> yeah potentially found a way. There we
go. Yeah. And so what we're doing here
is we would just be voting on you to be
able to apply for a grant that would pay
for half of it. And if we apply for the
grant that pays for half of it, we're
basically committing that we'll pay for
the other half if we get the grant.
>> Uh and so for a $370,000 vehicle, it'll
pay $185,000ish. I'm rounding. Uh and
then we would owe the other 185,000.
>> Um so everybody good? Everybody any have
any other questions, concerns?
>> Thank you, Chief. Whoever roll, please.
>> Commissioner Puit.
>> Hi.
>> Commissioner Hargus. Hi. Commissioner
Thomas.
>> Hi,
>> Mayor Stton.
>> Hi.
>> Uh, do we have any mayor?
>> Yes, sir.
>> Somebody's back there.
>> I'm sorry. What?
>> Oh, speak. Is that all right if I come
up and say something?
>> You are Well, yeah. Anytime. Yeah,
please.
>> And I'm not a speaker and I don't like
you in this.
>> You are welcome to come up and speak.
Yes, ma'am.
>> Back to the clutter.
>> S I'm Susan Big 2 48 Old Nook Road. I'm
in the county, but this is my city. I
grew up in the city.
the clutter. It's far beyond bicycles
and covered up firewood. My gosh, it's
cars that are parked that haven't been
work working for years. Porches that you
can't even get to the front door. I have
one in frontier behind where I used to
live. That is unbelievable.
[clears throat]
» It's so much more than that petty little
things you are talking about. It's the
major things. And I don't understand why
the codes department
can't make
time
two days a week to go to different areas
in the city to find places to not
necessarily site them but call attention
to it. Ask if they need help. They may
be so overwhelmed by it and may have
been left by a family member they become
ill. You know, is there funds to help
people like that to get rid of the mess?
But it's these cars and boats and things
that take up so much room. It's not
firewood and bicycles that are so bad.
It's yards that are growing up over top
of cars, grass. I mean, stuff like that
in my eyes and I see it. But another
thing is what bothers me is you we
really have the nerve to say anything
about private properties when look at
Henderson City. When you come in across
the bridge, I can't talk. I get so
nervous. I'm sorry.
>> You're okay. do.
>> But the curbs that are grown over
um drains that are covered up with grass
and stuff like that. I had friends that
we met at the Front Follies came to
town. They were amazed how they said
nasty and it is. I mean, you're worried
about downtown Henderson and they're
trying to help different areas. The East
End, I was raised in East 10. That's
right.
>> But I mean, look at the curbs. The
yellow on the curbs aren't marked in
most places. roads are tore up like
behind Thornton's [clears throat] by
Applebees and that's private property I
imagine but there's this deep holes
right there.
>> Yeah.
>> Make those people responsible. Make
companies responsible like by Palmer's
um the bank next to Palmer's.
>> Mhm.
>> And then that building that used to be a
store and then they still got a
billboard going across the thing. Weeds
are this tall growing out there. people
that own that property should be
responsible and have that stuff taken
care of. We had just been to Jasper
recently and I don't know if it's the
ordinance that they make people that own
a business that their curbs are taken
care of or what. I'm sorry I can't talk.
I'm getting so but you understand where
I'm coming from. It is so much more than
this petty little stuff about firewood.
Anyway, I just had to say my piece.
>> Can Can you stay Can you stay up there
for a second?
>> Uh so I wanted to address a couple of
things that that you said. Uh so first
of all, thank you for coming and
speaking and and you're not wrong about
a lot of things you said. Uh when you
come into town, uh it's a state road and
then it's the county until you get to
the city limits and and uh uh along the
state road, the state maintenance
schedule changed in our last governor
administration uh where they don't mle
uh but half the time that they used to.
Uh and so I I totally agree with you. I
think it looks bad. Uh when you when you go up and down the
roads like that on private property,
it's a little bit difficult. The uh one
of the things that we've talked about
lately that I've talked about lately, uh
I don't use the word I very often, but I
don't want to corner the rest of the
commission. Um the uh with the codes
department is I'd like to see us add an
extra code inspector. Uh we we've
operated a certain way for years, and I personally feel like that department
is understaffed. Uh, and so if we can
get out of this within the next couple
of months by posting another code
inspector position and having that
there, I think that we'll be able to do
some of the things that you're talking
about.
>> I mean, I I drive we drive around town
all the time and I could write down a
list, just go five blocks and find
several, you know.
>> Sure.
>> And but it's not just the county road or
the state roads or things like the pine
room, the old pine room is still
standing. Things that are just old and
needs to be torn down and things
revived.
>> I would be more worried about all that
than
the rest.
>> Yes, ma'am.
>> Well, thank you so much for coming and
talking to us. We appreciate it.
» All right. And we've got uh uh we've got
an executive session. Before we do that,
I want to see if any commissioners have
any comments before we go. [laughter]
Commissioner Thomas, do you have
anything today?
>> Song writers festival this week.
>> It is. And bluegrass festival next week.
>> Yeah. Back to back.
>> Uh songary festival starts tomorrow,
right?
>> There we go. Commissioner Prit. No,
>> I just want to thank the lady for coming
up speaking. Uh, this is your house.
Like I I tell everybody, taxpayers, this
is your government. We work for you. If
there's something's wrong, you see cars
all over the place, come tell us. That
way we can get it fixed for you. We work
for you. That's all.
>> That's a good point and it's accurate.
Commissioner Argus.
>> Oh, I'm I'm hoping this will help some
of that. So,
>> I I do too.
>> A little bit at a time.
>> I do too. this and maybe a little bit of
restructuring of the department. I I uh
but we hear you. You know, there there
are always things that we can do better
and and we want to do better also. So,
thank you guys for coming and talking to
us.
>> Well, I want to make one,
>> Steve. I've never heard one bad
complaint about our codes department is
being overly aggressive or anything. So,
kudos to you.
>> Good deal.
>> And we have need for executive session.
And just to just to remind everybody,
we're going to go into executive
session. And then once we do, this is uh
this is where we're going to have the
discussion on who we are going to
appoint uh to replace the commissioner
who left us. Uh and so we're going to
executive session to do that and we will
be coming back with action. Uh yes, sir.
>> Could I state just one thing real
quickly, Mr. Mayor?
>> Uh if if you would like. Yes.
>> Very quick.
>> Tom Davis.
>> First of all, I appreciate the approval
of the resolution earlier this evening
for the barge dock for the PT boat. It's
going to be such an important part of
our uh veterans park down on the
riverfront. But I also want to commend
city staff. And folks, if you haven't
seen it, there is a video out that the
city has put together for our parks
program for the coming that's in
progress right now that the commission
just approved. And a large part of that
is our veterans memorial park. And I
just want to thank the staff that put
that together because it is a it's an A1
job and thank you very much for that uh
helping us get another step forward on
this parks project. Thank you.
>> You are welcome. Happy happy to do it.
Yes, sir. Yes, sir. [applause]
» All right. Thank you guys. And with
that, we'll entertain a motion to go
into executive session. I move the
commission go into executive session
pursuant to KS 61.8
subsection C discussion of pending
litigation against the city in pursuant
to KRS 6.8
subsection F discussion that may lead to
the appointment of an individual
employee or member. Do
>> we have a second?
>> Second.
>> All in favor? I.
>> I. We are going to stay here for the
executive session. Thank you God.