1 00:00:04,560 --> 00:00:11,120 meeting is being videotaped. Let's bring the meeting to order. Let's 2 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:14,679 do the pledge of >> allegiance please 3 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:28,880 to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for it 4 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:33,560 stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all 5 00:00:38,480 --> 00:00:43,480 to speak out on an agenda. items only. 6 00:00:48,559 --> 00:00:56,000 » Everybody a motion to approve June meeting minutes. 7 00:00:54,559 --> 00:00:58,950 » July >> July 8 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:01,199 » or July, I'm sorry. July. [clears throat] I make a motion to 9 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:05,439 approve them. >> I'll second it. 10 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:11,320 » All in favor? >> Yes. 11 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:11,320 » Yes. It's approved unanimously. 12 00:01:12,320 --> 00:01:20,880 » A motion to approve any and all invoices received by township treasur for the 13 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:24,560 month of July 2026. 14 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:27,439 » Is there a motion for that? >> I'll make a motion. 15 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:31,040 » Is there a second? >> I'll second it. 16 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:34,759 » All in favor? >> Yes. Yes. 17 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:43,560 » I'm not going to agree. something I can't see. 18 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:43,560 » Okay. Well, it's approved. 19 00:01:48,399 --> 00:01:57,439 » Old business grant update. Say it pen and harshman. 20 00:01:54,960 --> 00:02:01,680 » You want us speaking on that? 21 00:01:58,719 --> 00:02:06,159 » I've been working on grants again. And this is the young lady from 22 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:11,360 Hartsman's group. and she's been trying pretty hard. We 23 00:02:08,479 --> 00:02:17,360 got a grant going in for My Fire's Bridge. Uh there was a fire back here 24 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:23,120 over the winter time, I believe it was. And the fire department said that they 25 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:28,480 didn't trust the bridge with their fire trucks going across it. So, we have 26 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:34,319 looking at it. We're applying for a grant to get that bridge replaced or 27 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:39,599 repaired or whatever it may need. I also been talking to Fate Pen, which 28 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:44,080 is another grant writer, because I feel as many grants as I can get for our 29 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:50,319 township is what my job was to do when I come here. So, I'm talking to them. I'm 30 00:02:47,599 --> 00:02:54,239 going to continue pushing over here. We are trying to find some money to build a 31 00:02:52,319 --> 00:02:58,879 salt shed. We really need to get the salt out of our building. We got some 32 00:02:56,319 --> 00:03:07,280 roofs that need worked on, but grants only go so fast. So, 33 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:10,480 That's about the best I got on that. >> I think we ought to hire an inspector to 34 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:15,080 inspect that bridge down there before there's any money spent for a bridge. 35 00:03:20,640 --> 00:03:27,120 » Yeah, it's off the dark road. >> We like to call in on the grant 36 00:03:25,599 --> 00:03:30,720 situation. We got to wait till the end. >> No, you can you can call 37 00:03:29,602 --> 00:03:34,319 [clears throat] back in November when I was up here and talked to you. After the 38 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:41,040 first year, you're going to work on grants for Tailoo. What's up with that? 39 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:44,720 » I've had the people all over every road and they tell me the only project that 40 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:50,080 they got right now that they can help me with is Myers Bridge. 41 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:55,680 » And why is that? >> Because the other one, Taylor Road, is 42 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:59,680 supposed to be maintenance. They said, >> "Well, how did they fix all the other 43 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:04,239 grants for >> I didn't know they got grants for all?" 44 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:11,280 » Well, they spent ungodly weeks and months down there at 45 00:04:08,239 --> 00:04:15,920 Ramat a couple years ago. >> Oh, yeah. They got that and that put a 46 00:04:13,439 --> 00:04:19,680 big sore thumb in with the conservity. We were very lucky to get them to come 47 00:04:17,840 --> 00:04:25,520 back and help us with the Beaver Creek project because they that 48 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:29,600 » went terribly wrong down there. They misspent the money. They misdone the 49 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:34,320 work. They ended up we ended up getting $110,000 fine on our liquid fuels from 50 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:38,720 the way they misspent the money. So, the conservity did not want to come back in 51 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:43,520 and help us with any roads. This Beaver Creek project is going to be an 52 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:47,680 important project. If it goes smoothly, I think we can get the conservity to 53 00:04:45,280 --> 00:04:51,600 work with us again. If it doesn't go smoothly and we get people in there 54 00:04:49,919 --> 00:04:55,040 that's trying to tell the conservity what to do, we're going to be in 55 00:04:53,280 --> 00:04:59,840 trouble. The conservity is the one that has the money. They're the ones paying 56 00:04:57,199 --> 00:05:05,680 for it. We got to do what they tell us to do. 57 00:05:01,919 --> 00:05:11,039 I mean, if anybody knows anything about Ramat and Fire Tower Bridge, they know 58 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:16,120 for years that that bridge was default. It's still in default. They're still 59 00:05:12,479 --> 00:05:16,120 being bought for. 60 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:22,240 » So, in other words, there's no chance of that. 61 00:05:19,039 --> 00:05:27,280 » I'm not saying there's no chance. I work every month chasing grants. So, I'm not 62 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:32,160 saying there's no chance. I I'm on the road a lot in a month's time for the 63 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:35,160 township trying to find money for the township. 64 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:42,639 I don't know what anybody else is doing, but I know I do it and I personally do 65 00:05:40,479 --> 00:05:47,440 it. I personally pay for the gas. I personally pay for the car. I personally 66 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:52,320 pay for everything. I take nothing to try to get to the township. 67 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:54,479 That's all I do. >> You're still looking for that money 68 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:56,000 tree, >> huh? 69 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:59,360 » You're still looking for that money tree. 70 00:05:56,400 --> 00:06:03,919 » I'm looking for the money tree. >> No, it's not out. Well, I guess it could 71 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:10,400 be out there, but it's not my backyard. >> Don't mud pipe. [laughter] 72 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:15,919 » But I am after grants. I do take them up there because Taylor Hill, there's three 73 00:06:13,199 --> 00:06:21,600 or four hills in my opinion that need addressed and needs fixed somehow. 74 00:06:17,759 --> 00:06:25,759 » Well, right now our road fixer is Robson. He bought a piece of equipment. 75 00:06:23,759 --> 00:06:31,600 He runs up and down that hill. >> It's like, you know, 76 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:34,080 » like a super highway. >> Yeah. 77 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:37,280 » Not so much. >> He does a good job. 78 00:06:35,199 --> 00:06:40,639 » He's a fanatical. >> You do a good job, too. 79 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:46,919 Thank you. >> You walk the walk. Any other questions 80 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,919 on the grants? 81 00:06:47,919 --> 00:06:57,600 » Beaver Creek project. It was delayed from Monday to 82 00:06:55,360 --> 00:07:01,280 I think Thursday. >> Was it 83 00:06:59,039 --> 00:07:04,800 » the 6th or 7th? >> They didn't know. The bridge crew still 84 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:09,199 had to get their machines up. So that's what it was between the bridge crew and 85 00:07:07,759 --> 00:07:14,000 conservity when they were having it delivered and last time I count. 86 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:18,479 » Yeah. Bridge. So on the >> So the county's doing the bridge for 87 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:22,880 free. They're doing the labor for free. >> So we've talked the bridge crew in to do 88 00:07:21,199 --> 00:07:28,080 the labor for free. The conservatives giving us the money. So hopefully this 89 00:07:25,759 --> 00:07:32,560 project goes real smooth. So next time we need money maybe for Taylor Road or 90 00:07:30,639 --> 00:07:38,160 another road, the conservity will look at us again and take us seriously. 91 00:07:35,039 --> 00:07:43,599 » So on that project I timed it. I went 35 miles an hour. It takes you an extra 92 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:47,840 minute and a half to go 30 35 miles an hour down there. I hope that we tell the 93 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:51,840 trucks as much as possible, stay in the middle of that road because we're going 94 00:07:49,199 --> 00:07:58,000 to destroy. There's no burns at all. There's 6 in of drop off. If my car goes 95 00:07:55,599 --> 00:08:01,599 off and I ruin the hole underneath, that's how bad that road is right now. 96 00:07:59,759 --> 00:08:06,639 So if these trucks hold out of weights running the side of the road, you're 97 00:08:04,479 --> 00:08:11,599 going to have another problem fixing the road. So if we can talk to the trucking 98 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:17,440 companies to try and go slow, it only takes an extra couple minutes 99 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:20,879 and run the middle of the road. I don't know how many trucks will be 100 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:24,720 coming in and out right now. I mean, the bridge is going to be delivered and it 101 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:28,960 has to be put together. Then I'm sure after that there'll be 102 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:34,320 trucks either of stone or concrete or something, but I don't know. 103 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:37,919 » Well, what's a triacial haul? 30 ton. >> That's a lot of weight. When you got a 6 104 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:41,320 in drop off and you're right along the edge of the road, 105 00:08:41,519 --> 00:08:46,440 the road's still in decent shape. I hate to see it. 106 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:52,120 » I will try to voice an opinion to the truck driver. 107 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:56,920 Any other questions on the Beaver Creek project 108 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:04,240 torn chipping of roads? >> Got delayed too. 109 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:07,040 » That was supposed to start Monday, but it was supposed to rain all this week. I 110 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:13,920 think they delayed it also. >> They got tied up. I like to tell you 111 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:18,519 county somewhere up there. So, they're tied up today because of the weather. 112 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:27,040 Now they're talking possibly Wednesday or Thursday. I don't It rained again 113 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:30,920 yesterday and today so back up any further 114 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:38,880 » purchaser from Cory Kquet. >> That was during your special meeting for 115 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:42,640 the opening of that. >> Yes. 116 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:45,640 » Was that last week? >> Friday. 117 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:50,680 » It's about time. It's only years later. 118 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:03,720 » Uh, Bradic, Flat Rock, Clover Top, and uh, 119 00:10:08,560 --> 00:10:12,200 » you if you want to. 120 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:16,200 » We can put you on. 121 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:26,079 New business >> resolution for Mars 122 00:10:22,399 --> 00:10:30,760 Road bridge. I think we went over that. >> Is there a motion to approve the 123 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,760 resolution? 124 00:10:34,079 --> 00:10:39,360 » Make a motion. >> I'll make a motion to approve. 125 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:42,640 » Is there a second? >> I'll second. 126 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:46,320 » All in favor? >> Yes. 127 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:51,560 » Yes. It's a grant. I mean, how can you go wrong? 128 00:10:48,399 --> 00:10:51,560 » It carries. 129 00:10:51,920 --> 00:11:00,279 » Letter from health department violation smoking 130 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:00,279 must been made. 131 00:11:04,399 --> 00:11:14,720 2026 FC ATS Conservation September 10th and 11th 132 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:19,959 Faget County Fairgrounds. That's the convention that they have 133 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:19,959 every year. 134 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:37,279 A motion to approve to pay bills and payroll checks as 135 00:11:32,560 --> 00:11:40,880 electronic format versus paper. >> I'll second. 136 00:11:39,279 --> 00:11:45,040 » Oh, Rob, did you make the motion? >> Make a motion. 137 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:50,720 » Okay. Seconded by Larry. All in favor? >> Yes. 138 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:55,440 » All that does is just move this up in the modern times. 139 00:11:52,320 --> 00:12:01,040 Instead of sending out checks by mail, if we can pay it AC or whatever, we do 140 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:10,240 it that way. You save whatever a stamp cost now. Stamp and envel each adds up. 141 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:15,839 Make a motion to approve building permit administration fees. 142 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:21,760 » Yeah. So the the purpose of that is we already have a building permit fee that 143 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:29,760 it already exists on the books and um sometimes there are legal fees questions 144 00:12:24,959 --> 00:12:36,079 about the property building code um or something that involves my time or Sue's 145 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:41,839 time um and that's all administrative work. And so what this would be would be 146 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:49,279 um uh since we're since Harshman's already collecting um that permit fee, 147 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:54,560 we would be collecting a very small um 10%age of that fee. It would come to us 148 00:12:52,079 --> 00:12:58,320 directly. That's it% >> of the original fee. 149 00:12:55,680 --> 00:13:04,240 » Uhhuh. That's it. >> So we're not raising this and 150 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:08,959 at this point we got so many people out of violation. How do we 151 00:13:06,959 --> 00:13:12,399 tell anybody they have to buy a building >> because we have a building permit 152 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:16,000 ordinance already, >> right? But what do we do with the people 153 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:20,399 in violation? >> That's up to the building code inspector 154 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:23,760 to go out and say you're not in violation or you are or you're not in 155 00:13:22,079 --> 00:13:30,000 violation. All this does is help pay for Sue's time 156 00:13:26,560 --> 00:13:34,160 and because the full fee would go to Harshman. We would we're not collecting 157 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:39,120 anything from that right now. So they're only collecting a small portion of that 158 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:45,279 » and it does not raise any fees to anybody 159 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:50,480 » and Harshman's willing to release 10% to us 160 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:54,200 » for no for so they're going to take 10% off what they make 161 00:13:55,920 --> 00:14:04,000 » done with that. >> Yep. Is there a motion for that? 162 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:07,360 » I made a motion to approve it. Is there a second? 163 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:11,440 » Agree. >> So Steve seconds it all in favor. 164 00:14:09,519 --> 00:14:16,120 » Yes. >> Yes. 165 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:16,120 » It passes. 166 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:26,000 » Make a motion to approve amendments to trash ordinance. 167 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:30,240 » So um I I know we were talking about and and we're not ready to readvertise this 168 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:35,040 yet, but I know we were talking about a couple of different things that we 169 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:40,000 wouldn't include in it. And I know Rob, you had a question about um to be able 170 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:44,320 to essentially charge some sort of a late 171 00:14:41,839 --> 00:14:49,440 fee and then be able to take them to the map. And I think looking at other 172 00:14:47,519 --> 00:14:54,800 municipalities that have a trash ordinance that they actually collect on, 173 00:14:52,160 --> 00:15:01,279 it would be something like if you're late, it would be $20 for that month 174 00:14:58,079 --> 00:15:06,560 plus an extra 2% on that invoice going forward. So that's that's pretty 175 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:10,160 customary because then you actually have some way of, you know, saying, "Hey, 176 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:14,079 look, you're you're in acrewing a penalty here if you're not going to be 177 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:17,680 paying on time." So that's a pretty standard rate. And I wanted to see if 178 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:22,399 that's something that the majority of the supervisors would would approve for 179 00:15:20,079 --> 00:15:28,800 me to put in there. And then I know that there were some questions about whether 180 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:35,040 an apartment building has um multiple tenants. if a dumpster was sufficient 181 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:39,199 for the whole building or whether each individual needed to be paying. 182 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:41,600 » Each individual needs to be paying. >> Yes, they do. 183 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:46,079 » So, I'm I need to get >> So, each business and resident. So, 184 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:48,959 you're going to you got to pay for your business and your residential state. 185 00:15:48,399 --> 00:15:51,839 » Buy, >> huh? No, you're not combined. Oh, yeah. 186 00:15:50,639 --> 00:15:54,480 » Because an apartment building wouldn't be on. 187 00:15:53,199 --> 00:15:58,320 » I'm not going to argue with you. >> Yeah. Because you go to a restaurant or 188 00:15:56,320 --> 00:16:03,600 any kind of food place or any kind of gas station has dumpsters. So they would 189 00:16:01,199 --> 00:16:07,759 pay for a dumpster fee. You're just trying to make somebody pay for a 190 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:10,399 dumpster fee that has an apartment. >> And you won't want to pay residential 191 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:14,240 and your business. >> I don't bring any trash here from my 192 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:17,360 business. It's it's from my house. Period. 193 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:21,279 » You got to have trash from your business here. 194 00:16:19,839 --> 00:16:26,320 » I I don't agree with that. >> So I'm I'm trying to get I'm just trying 195 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:30,560 to consensus on what you guys want to do about that. I know that has been talked 196 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:34,560 about previously um as to what we were doing with it. 197 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:37,199 Municipalities do it differently. So, you guys tell me. 198 00:16:35,519 --> 00:16:43,759 » I thought the biggest concern was somebody I think it was the couple the 199 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:46,160 supervisor before read in there or something and everybody was all upset 200 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:51,360 about that. >> Well, that's true. That's true. But I 201 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:57,040 wanted it was it was actually unclear in the ordinance as to whether a if you 202 00:16:54,959 --> 00:17:01,199 owned an apartment building or you owned something that was multiple like if you 203 00:16:59,279 --> 00:17:05,679 had some sort of a business that also had tenants upstairs or something who 204 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:08,799 had to pay whether it was one account or was it multiple accounts? 205 00:17:07,360 --> 00:17:11,839 » Multiple accounts. All tenants need to pay. 206 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:15,360 » It'd be the same thing with the business and their 207 00:17:12,799 --> 00:17:18,559 » whatever. But we ain't going to like your apartment buildings. You're not 208 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:21,439 going to set a dumpster there and you collect all the tendants money and you 209 00:17:20,559 --> 00:17:25,120 pay for a dumpster. >> Same way that like Greg Upole down 210 00:17:23,120 --> 00:17:27,839 there, he can't do it with his apartment buildings. The same [clears throat] 211 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:30,720 thing with his plaza. He would have to pay separately. 212 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:32,080 » Everybody needs to pay a garbage bill. >> So, that's what you're saying then, 213 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:35,600 right? >> Yep. Every time. 214 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:41,120 » All right. So, I'm going to present those changes to you guys for the next 215 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:45,919 » I don't know if I agree with those changes. I think the public needs to see 216 00:17:43,120 --> 00:17:50,240 those changes because like I said, now you're talking you got 217 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:53,679 all these places that has dumpsters that can't have dumpsters anymore. 218 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:57,120 » Okay. [snorts] Well, I got to take guidance from you guys. So, you tell me 219 00:17:55,840 --> 00:18:00,960 what you want to do. >> I think the public should have an 220 00:17:59,039 --> 00:18:05,600 opinion on that. >> What do you people think? All tenants 221 00:18:03,039 --> 00:18:09,360 ought to pay or just one >> I think everybody should pay. 222 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:13,280 » Everybody has garbage. Let's face it. Is this going to make a difference as far 223 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:18,400 as the dump uh the garbage part of the business making some money where we can 224 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:22,320 just hire a crew for garbage and and now because you guys only work four days. 225 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:26,720 You got two days in garbage. That's two days on the roads. And I think our roads 226 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:30,400 need more than just two days. I mean, don't you guys agree? 227 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:34,240 » You're wasting two days on you also got to put on there, David, if you're doing 228 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:38,559 that changing the rules, they have to buy the contracts out of the people's 229 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:42,559 contracted out. I have a contract on my dumpster and I 230 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:44,000 was told to do that by the previous supervisors. 231 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:48,559 » Okay. >> So, I I followed the rules. If we want 232 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:50,720 to change the rules, the township should be responsible for buying out the 233 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:53,919 contract. >> But you could have a dumpster there and 234 00:18:51,919 --> 00:18:58,240 steal all tendants paying. >> They just put a garbage in the dumpster, 235 00:18:55,520 --> 00:19:02,400 right? >> That's what Danny Bird does. Danny Bird 236 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:06,240 Danny Bird here today. >> Danny, your tenants pay to put their 237 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:10,720 garbage in your dumpster, right? >> Yes, he do. 238 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:12,960 » Okay. Each account pays the township or they pay 239 00:19:11,360 --> 00:19:15,440 » each account pays. >> So do you pay for a dumpster or each 240 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:19,679 account? >> I pay for each account. 241 00:19:17,679 --> 00:19:24,000 » I pay for each account. >> Go ahead, Michelle. 242 00:19:21,039 --> 00:19:31,840 » I just have a question. How do you even begin to track tenants of apartment 243 00:19:29,120 --> 00:19:39,280 complexes to be able to charge them? And I'm just thinking like even when you're 244 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:44,240 thinking per capita tax tenant who lives in an apartment should pay a per capita 245 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:49,440 tax, they should pay it. It's for the privilege of living in Fyet County or in 246 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:54,640 Uniontown school district. We don't have one. It's a township. But how do you 247 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:58,960 even begin to know who all resides where is the 248 00:19:56,480 --> 00:20:04,400 property owner to furnish the names of the tenants or the property owner 249 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:10,880 collecting that? Like Dan just said, I I was just trying to understand it. 250 00:20:07,360 --> 00:20:14,240 Trash is leanable to the property owner. Trash is never leanable to the landlord 251 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,600 or >> to the tenant. 252 00:20:14,799 --> 00:20:21,039 » To the tenant. >> It's always leanable to the landlord. 253 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:26,000 Water is always leanable to the property owner. 254 00:20:22,559 --> 00:20:31,280 Trash, water, and if you got public sewage, public sewage. 255 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:34,280 Electric and cable, that's the tenants problem. 256 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:43,240 Basically 257 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:47,080 back out 258 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,760 of the city 259 00:20:55,679 --> 00:21:04,720 wants the property wants to be responsible for 260 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:04,720 attendance water bill or sewer bill. 261 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:21,880 We're going on to the next one. 262 00:21:24,559 --> 00:21:32,384 » Motion to approve to give Keith Myra an old girl that is in the woods. 263 00:21:30,364 --> 00:21:32,384 [laughter] 264 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:42,080 The one guy who works here wants an old barrel that's in the roads. So 265 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:45,600 we we had problems with stuff coming up missing. Scrap being taken, this being 266 00:21:44,159 --> 00:21:51,679 taken. Nothing should be taken out of this township unless all three 267 00:21:48,159 --> 00:21:56,640 supervisors know and on it or anything. No scrap, no tires, no no nothing. 268 00:21:54,720 --> 00:22:00,559 Nothing should go out of here. If he wants an old blue barrel that's probably 269 00:21:58,159 --> 00:22:04,640 going to cost us money to get rid of, I don't have any problems with that. that 270 00:22:01,919 --> 00:22:10,080 I think all three of us should know. >> I say give it to 271 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:15,440 » Okay. So, is there a motion to give this barrel to 272 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:17,440 » Is it just a 55gallon barrel or what is it? 273 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:23,440 » Do you have any idea? >> It's just a blue plastic 274 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:26,320 » junk. I make a motion to give it to I'll 275 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,799 second it. >> All in favor? 276 00:22:27,679 --> 00:22:32,080 » Yes. >> Yes. 277 00:22:29,679 --> 00:22:35,760 » No, carries. Miss Engineer, you get to talk. 278 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:38,799 » Oh, no. >> Here's the problem. I'm not an engineer. 279 00:22:38,485 --> 00:22:42,559 [laughter] >> It's okay then. You're you're redundant, 280 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:46,799 right? >> Um I brought this engineers report on 281 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:50,320 behalf of Jamie. He's on vacation this week. Much deserved. 282 00:22:48,559 --> 00:22:54,000 » Um >> I can't truly speak to many of these 283 00:22:52,159 --> 00:22:57,840 items, but um I know like the Beaver Creek um project was on there and we 284 00:22:56,159 --> 00:23:02,480 received that email update which you all were aware of. um code enforcement 285 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:07,305 zoning. Brandy sent an individual update as well for you all to go through if you 286 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:12,320 want me to read it aloud. I'm okay. [laughter] 287 00:23:09,039 --> 00:23:16,240 » Um the multimodal grant which um we are working on was already you approved the 288 00:23:14,159 --> 00:23:22,480 resolution tonight. That's the grant for MyersBridge. Um engineer Rich Rick Rich 289 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:26,400 Rush came out and looked at it and recommended that was a project that was 290 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:30,960 most likely to be funded through this program. Um, so that's the one that we 291 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:34,880 recommended you go for. Um, I did want to speak of as the grant writer planner 292 00:23:32,799 --> 00:23:38,080 at Harshman. Um, I know that you all were uh interested in looking at your 293 00:23:36,559 --> 00:23:42,960 salo and zoning and kind of comprehensive plan update. 294 00:23:41,039 --> 00:23:45,919 » I didn't um I did want to bring you all to your 295 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:51,039 attention. So, I've been talking with Stephanie at DCED who's in charge of the 296 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:55,520 MAP program. Um, apparently you have an outstanding grant for um a MAP program 297 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:58,960 grant. So, this would be to help with your zoning and code. Um, 298 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:02,080 » we've been trying for a couple years to get that. 299 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:04,960 » We have an outstanding like we actually received money. 300 00:24:02,799 --> 00:24:06,880 » No, no, no. The grant is pending. We're waiting to 301 00:24:05,679 --> 00:24:09,600 » So, we have to wait and see. >> Yes. 302 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:14,080 » Okay. The in talking with Stephanie, we have a pretty good relationship. Um, 303 00:24:11,279 --> 00:24:18,400 unfortunately, because no match was um provided, she's not very optimistic that 304 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:22,640 it'll get approved this round, but does think that it's a very good project that 305 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:28,559 we should continue pursuing. um September 1st is the next deadline for 306 00:24:24,799 --> 00:24:32,720 this program and she says that with um you know with a match commitment that 307 00:24:30,799 --> 00:24:38,080 would be very competitive. The other option to pursue um funding or in this 308 00:24:36,559 --> 00:24:42,480 case it's technical assistance through the state to get some of your zoning and 309 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:46,960 comprehensive plan or uh zoning and sawdo stuff updated would be through a 310 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:51,520 technical assistance program where they actually give you something like 500 311 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:55,360 free hours to help you work through that process. It does take some buyin 312 00:24:53,520 --> 00:25:00,080 obviously from the municipality and ultimately will need um help enlisted 313 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:03,279 from the solicitor or from your code and zoning officer to get that over the 314 00:25:01,919 --> 00:25:07,360 finish line. They won't actually write the code for you. But those are two 315 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:10,720 really valid programs that the state is really interested in seeing you put in 316 00:25:09,120 --> 00:25:15,600 an application for or another application for and kind of pursuing. Um 317 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:18,640 I have Stephanie at the uh state ready to talk with you guys if you're 318 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:22,720 interested in sitting down and kind of learning about the difference between 319 00:25:19,919 --> 00:25:27,120 the two um and figing out which is the best option for you guys to um move 320 00:25:25,039 --> 00:25:30,480 forward. There's multiple opportunities every year for both of these programs. 321 00:25:28,799 --> 00:25:34,159 So, it's not like one and done. Um there's another opportunity in April if 322 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:40,000 you want to work with her through the process a little more in depth. 323 00:25:37,360 --> 00:25:43,440 Um all the inactive and pending projects I think are pretty much the same. I know 324 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:48,159 Rich came out and looked at some other road projects that we're going to 325 00:25:44,799 --> 00:25:52,159 recommend you probably submit to DGBR um once the Beaver Creek project is over. 326 00:25:50,159 --> 00:25:56,080 And so, um, we kind of have a bunch of projects on your wish list from, um, 327 00:25:54,080 --> 00:26:01,039 Rich being able to get out here and see. And, um, we're going to recommend the 328 00:25:59,279 --> 00:26:03,760 best funding source that we believe for each of those projects as they keep 329 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:09,600 coming up. And, >> and the DGL program is one of the 330 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:12,240 programs for Taylor Road possible if we can get it to go through. But, 331 00:26:11,120 --> 00:26:15,600 » I was just wondering because it's been like eight or nine months, I've heard 332 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:20,000 nothing. >> Well, we got to make sure that Beaver 333 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:25,120 Creek goes smooth. and we can't we can't submit another one 334 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:31,360 until we've completed this program and it's just taking quite some time to get 335 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:35,679 done just is >> and the DJVR program through the um 336 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:41,360 county conservation district is a rolling application. So, um as soon as 337 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:45,200 Beaver Creek is wrapped up, we can go ahead and submit the next round. But um 338 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:49,400 obviously they want to see that we treated their money well the first time. 339 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:55,120 So what's important? >> You already got [clears throat] 340 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:58,960 all I needed from you. >> That's it. 341 00:26:57,279 --> 00:27:02,440 » I like to speak out. >> I have a question. 342 00:27:02,559 --> 00:27:08,480 » Watching the video of the meeting last week because I couldn't get up there and 343 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:12,240 there was a I think you said that with these lawsuits or something going on 344 00:27:10,159 --> 00:27:16,080 that the township is going to have to start paying for these suits. Is there 345 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:20,960 going to be any recourse for us to counter suit if these people lose these 346 00:27:19,039 --> 00:27:24,559 uh lawsuits? I mean, can anybody just sue the township and then if they lose 347 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:28,080 say, "Oh, okay. My bad." >> Well, right now there's only one pending 348 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:33,679 lawsuit against the township and it's Steven 349 00:27:30,799 --> 00:27:38,480 Humber versus Henry Township and all the other cost 30 $50,000. This is still 350 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:42,880 lawsuit. >> Where's our reports to go to recoup the 351 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:46,000 money? If we got to keep spending 50,000 or paying insurance, rates go up to 352 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:51,520 defend lawsuits. >> So if if the court believes that the 353 00:27:48,720 --> 00:28:00,399 lawsuit was defeatious or was out lacks any merit, they could award attorneys 354 00:27:55,360 --> 00:28:04,159 in our favor if we want. >> But that still doesn't answer my 355 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:08,399 question. If the township themselves want to go after 356 00:28:05,919 --> 00:28:13,600 » they're with what a judge says. >> Okay. So if the judge said no, this is 357 00:28:11,279 --> 00:28:20,320 the way it works in the United States. Anybody can sue any anything any entity 358 00:28:17,039 --> 00:28:24,960 or whatever at any time. And there is no unless you have some sort of a contract 359 00:28:22,159 --> 00:28:28,559 or by statute said you can recover attorney's fees, you can't recover 360 00:28:26,799 --> 00:28:33,760 attorneys. So all of the money that has been spent 361 00:28:31,279 --> 00:28:40,320 would not be recovered by law. 362 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:46,159 » So you can just have are taking it to >> I I am simply just acting in the role of 363 00:28:43,279 --> 00:28:52,480 a solicitor. The We have an insurance company that has hired insurance defense 364 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:58,720 council to defend us, but they have already spent over $50,000 defending 365 00:28:55,919 --> 00:29:04,399 this suit. And now because of our policy, that limit has expired. We've 366 00:29:01,679 --> 00:29:09,640 hit the cap. So now the taxpayers will have to pick up the dime. 367 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,640 Anybody 368 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:21,520 else to speak out? >> Yeah, I want to say thanks to J for what 369 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:26,840 putting the culpr down there going to do hopefully a good job and really 370 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,840 fantastic. 371 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:38,679 » That's it. >> That's it. 372 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:38,679 » M to adjourn. Motion to 373 00:29:40,159 --> 00:29:43,159 » make 374 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,640 all in favor.