1 00:08:07,340 --> 00:08:13,500 Being of the value of just a word to order it 10-11 a.m. if we can stand for the implication, please. 2 00:08:17,140 --> 00:08:20,100 We thank you for the opportunity to gather together in service of our community. 3 00:08:20,500 --> 00:08:23,780 We ask for you wisdom and guidance as we consider matters before us today. 4 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:28,140 Help us make decisions with fairness and integrity and respect for those who serve. 5 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:33,400 We serve. Place our citizens, our employees, our first responders and all who make the community a better place. 6 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:39,620 Please guide our words and actions to help us always remember their responsibility and trust it with us. 7 00:08:39,620 --> 00:08:40,380 in the United States. 8 00:08:45,020 --> 00:08:45,460 We're 9 00:08:57,980 --> 00:08:59,200 going to start off before the 10 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:00,440 introductions and I think Mr. 11 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:02,460 Ball for coming on last minute notice we 12 00:09:02,460 --> 00:09:03,020 appreciate you. 13 00:09:03,260 --> 00:09:06,240 We had Mr. Johnson cancel the last second because 14 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:07,640 something came up. 15 00:09:07,820 --> 00:09:10,020 So when we start with introductions with 16 00:09:10,020 --> 00:09:10,940 our council team in there. 17 00:09:11,100 --> 00:09:11,460 Good morning. 18 00:09:11,560 --> 00:09:11,860 Howley. 19 00:09:12,100 --> 00:09:12,320 Good morning. 20 00:09:13,340 --> 00:09:13,780 Howley. 21 00:09:13,780 --> 00:09:13,940 Good morning. 22 00:09:13,940 --> 00:09:15,460 of her native county commission. 23 00:09:16,180 --> 00:09:17,980 Susan Duvall, school board member. 24 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:20,200 Steve Champion, her native county commission. 25 00:09:20,560 --> 00:09:22,420 Tom, why should I go home to the property owner? 26 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:25,680 Heidi Prost, administrative services supervisor. 27 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:28,540 Page Jeffries, admin services. 28 00:09:30,380 --> 00:09:32,820 We're going to move on to B. 29 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:34,180 Do we need to approve the agenda? 30 00:09:34,980 --> 00:09:35,940 We don't have to approve the agenda. 31 00:09:36,140 --> 00:09:36,660 I guess I'm just going to write. 32 00:09:37,180 --> 00:09:39,460 It's down there, but that's where we're approved. 33 00:09:40,340 --> 00:09:41,600 Well, we're, we're, we're, we're at B. 34 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:42,480 So we're contacted. 35 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:52,120 Okay, so we're only we we we that later. Okay. Yes, I just would like to make sure that we check the contact information and ensure that everybody's contact information is correct. 36 00:09:52,260 --> 00:09:59,900 Mr. Wall, you will not be on this list, but Mr. Johnson's information is on there. And while we're doing that, I do want to make 37 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,740 Make sure that we mention that our honorable court is also here with us today. 38 00:10:04,660 --> 00:10:06,460 He is very honorable. 39 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:09,580 My information to that. 40 00:10:09,900 --> 00:10:10,200 Wonderful. 41 00:10:10,780 --> 00:10:11,180 My pleasure. 42 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:12,420 My name is correct. 43 00:10:12,580 --> 00:10:14,060 Thank you so much. 44 00:10:14,700 --> 00:10:15,120 All right, moving. 45 00:10:15,740 --> 00:10:15,960 Yes. 46 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:20,040 I will advise for the record that I have reviewed the affidavit of publication. 47 00:10:20,300 --> 00:10:22,620 And I find it sufficient to proceed with this meeting today. 48 00:10:22,620 --> 00:10:26,760 And additionally, pursuant to floor to statute 194.015. 49 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:28,460 We do have quorum in the room. 50 00:10:29,180 --> 00:10:33,400 Great. Thank you. We're going to move on to D and handle conversation with Mr. 51 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:38,480 Bicycle in the beginning and he's willing to be Vice-Share. So I would like to point 52 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:41,140 him as Vice-Share. We can have a motion if you agree. 53 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:47,360 I'm going to make a Mr. Loco to approve Mr. Bicycle as Vice-Share. 54 00:10:47,580 --> 00:10:49,720 Second, a second, a second, a Mr. Bicycle. All in favor? 55 00:10:50,680 --> 00:10:53,200 Aye. Aye. Motion carries for you. 56 00:10:53,620 --> 00:10:58,320 Thank you. Move on to E. We're going to go for a motion to approve the agenda. 57 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:03,640 motion to approve. Most of I can miss our lockout approved agenda. Second. Second by 58 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:07,540 Mr. Ball to approve the agenda. All in favour? Aye. Aye. 59 00:11:07,900 --> 00:11:12,540 Aye. It's approved. It's approved for a Council of F. 60 00:11:13,220 --> 00:11:15,660 Or did we just need approval? We don't need that for you. Just need approval. 61 00:11:16,180 --> 00:11:19,920 We're like for approval of the minutes from the previous meetings. 62 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:25,360 To a motion to approve by Mr. Vice-Secard. Second. Second by Mr. 63 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:26,640 I'd like to all in favor. 64 00:11:26,820 --> 00:11:27,260 Aye. 65 00:11:28,260 --> 00:11:29,320 Kerry Sforo. 66 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:31,840 Down to G, we're moving fast here. 67 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:32,400 Yes, sir. 68 00:11:32,660 --> 00:11:32,860 Council. 69 00:11:33,180 --> 00:11:33,600 All right. 70 00:11:33,820 --> 00:11:38,940 Well, G1 is to ratify myself as vape attorney to come back for the year. 71 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:40,360 I will advise for the record. 72 00:11:40,580 --> 00:11:41,740 There's a little bit of an update. 73 00:11:43,620 --> 00:11:46,720 In the package, G1, you would have my contract. 74 00:11:47,340 --> 00:11:48,920 There's a human trafficking affidivit. 75 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:54,220 I have been appointed to represent Citrus County as well, and when I was provided with 76 00:11:54,220 --> 00:11:56,340 packet to sign for Citrus County. 77 00:11:56,540 --> 00:11:58,440 They had this human trafficking affidavit in there. 78 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,400 And I liked it, and actually it's required by statute. 79 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:06,180 So any time a governmental entity appoints or hires a non-governmental 80 00:12:06,180 --> 00:12:10,820 entity, they should be signing an affidavit stating that they do not use coercion 81 00:12:10,820 --> 00:12:12,120 for labor services. 82 00:12:12,620 --> 00:12:16,040 So I have incorporated that for myself and for our magistrates. 83 00:12:16,580 --> 00:12:19,240 So that's in there, my affidavits in there. 84 00:12:19,540 --> 00:12:23,060 You have been provided with my Department of Revenue Certification for 85 00:12:23,060 --> 00:12:25,780 training and a passing of the exam for 2025. 86 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:30,300 So after I provided that, I also took the training and passed the exam, commissioner. 87 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,260 Loco, I got 100 again this year. 88 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:40,160 And I did provide that to the administration, but the agenda packet was finalized after I did that. 89 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:46,100 So it's an appendage that it's not included here, but I promise I did take the training and pass the exam. 90 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,160 And then my certification of insurance is also attached. 91 00:12:49,940 --> 00:12:51,340 Can I say a light on for Mr. 92 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:53,240 Yeah, I just have a question for you. 93 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:54,440 I first of all, I appreciate you bringing 94 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:57,160 forth to human trafficking, affidavit. 95 00:12:57,700 --> 00:13:00,300 I'm not asking you to play turning right now, 96 00:13:00,460 --> 00:13:02,360 but does it make it any less illegal? 97 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:04,280 More illegal. 98 00:13:04,660 --> 00:13:07,420 By having the affidavit, I mean, I just just curious. 99 00:13:07,700 --> 00:13:09,040 It makes it more illegal. 100 00:13:09,100 --> 00:13:09,460 More illegal. 101 00:13:09,460 --> 00:13:12,640 It makes everything more legal if we're following more laws. 102 00:13:12,980 --> 00:13:13,640 Oh, OK. 103 00:13:13,900 --> 00:13:15,840 All right, I mean, appreciate it. 104 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:17,640 Obviously, I would like anybody who has involved 105 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:23,580 the net to be convicted of the highest crime they possibly can. 106 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:24,660 I can't have. 107 00:13:24,780 --> 00:13:27,340 I'm trying to imagine how it would happen in the VAB setting. 108 00:13:28,660 --> 00:13:29,100 Great. 109 00:13:29,740 --> 00:13:32,900 All right, we're looking for a motion to ratify the contract. 110 00:13:33,260 --> 00:13:34,000 So moved. 111 00:13:34,260 --> 00:13:36,280 Have a motion by Mr. Vice-secret. 112 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:37,940 Second by Commissioner Laco, all in favor. 113 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:38,800 Hi. 114 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:39,340 Hi. 115 00:13:39,460 --> 00:13:40,440 carries 4O. 116 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:41,920 D2. 117 00:13:42,980 --> 00:13:44,460 This is a designated author as factions. 118 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:46,240 What is that counsel? 119 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:51,980 This is to designate myself to handle good cost situations, so there will be late file, late 120 00:13:51,980 --> 00:13:58,560 baptitions and rescheduling of hearings, and it would also allow me to ask for additional 121 00:13:58,560 --> 00:14:01,840 documentation from anybody wishing to file one of those. 122 00:14:03,060 --> 00:14:07,900 Look at for a motion of G2, so I'm moved, and I'm most of my Mr. Vice Secretary. 123 00:14:08,340 --> 00:14:08,720 Second. 124 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:10,500 I'm Mr. Lyco, all in favour? 125 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:11,160 Hi. 126 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:11,920 Hi. 127 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:12,520 I carry his 40. 128 00:14:13,460 --> 00:14:13,780 H. 129 00:14:15,020 --> 00:14:20,740 I'll go through this quickly, you can actually do H1, 2, 3 and 4 together if you'd like. 130 00:14:21,460 --> 00:14:21,680 Okay. 131 00:14:21,700 --> 00:14:24,520 So I'll explain all of it, and then you can hit it. 132 00:14:25,180 --> 00:14:29,880 H1, qualifications of an appointment in a special magistrate's, what I've provided to you, 133 00:14:29,980 --> 00:14:31,820 are only the compliance check pages. 134 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:33,840 It's two pages a piece per applicant. 135 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,480 I was like, do review all of their full submissions. 136 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:43,060 If there is anyone that would like to see the full submissions, they are available upon request. 137 00:14:43,980 --> 00:14:52,580 And so we have returning Joseph Haines Davis and Laura El Walker for exemption classification portability in any other legal matters. 138 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:59,240 We have returning for real property valuation, which is commercial and residential. We have Robert Hicks, Shelley Kennedy, who's here with us today. 139 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:06,160 Colleen Millett, Stephen, John Robinson, Richard Steeves, and then we have tangible personal properties, Steve, 140 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:12,840 Nice, John, and John Robinson. Number two, we're asking for approval of the proposed contract in human trafficking 141 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:18,040 affidavit. There's no changes to the contract, but the human trafficking is affidavit is new and it's the same when that 142 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:26,120 I signed. We'll be asking our magistrates to sign this as well. H3 is the tentative hearing schedule and it does provide that 143 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:30,680 our next hearing for the final meeting, for the final meeting is March 19th. 144 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:35,060 So everybody will just triple check their calendars that they're available on that day that 145 00:15:35,060 --> 00:15:35,840 would be great. 146 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:42,280 And number H4, we have converted our special magistrate orientation to a recap packet so that 147 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:46,460 we don't have to hold a full orientation, especially since there are no changes from 2025. 148 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:51,020 And we do not have any new special magistrate applicants to her and no county. 149 00:15:52,100 --> 00:15:57,400 We have any questions, like we're on motion for each one through each work. 150 00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:58,140 Make a motion. 151 00:15:58,620 --> 00:16:03,280 We have a motion for my school board member to evolve for each one through each four and 152 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:05,240 second by the commissioner like I'm on the favor. 153 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:05,680 Hi. 154 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:07,860 There is four or zero. 155 00:16:10,780 --> 00:16:11,820 Disinformation Council. 156 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:12,700 Yes, sir. 157 00:16:12,740 --> 00:16:18,320 This is just information about how the board may accept a special magistrate recommended 158 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:23,140 decisions during the final meeting, as provided without any further consideration, and I just 159 00:16:23,140 --> 00:16:25,600 provided the law, the same memorandum. 160 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:27,280 Okay. 161 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:28,400 No vote needed on that, correct? 162 00:16:29,060 --> 00:16:29,320 Okay. 163 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:30,280 We're moving on to J. 164 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:32,040 Okay. 165 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:38,520 J is, with regards to our resolution for filing fee, and there is, there is an update from last year. 166 00:16:38,860 --> 00:16:45,340 We did go to $50 per petition, that remains department of revenues issued a PTO bulletin 167 00:16:46,180 --> 00:16:52,020 20601, I was already aware of the different petition types that require a $15 petition, 168 00:16:53,300 --> 00:16:56,960 but since the Department of Revenue laid them out, I made sure to include them in our 169 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:57,920 resolution as well. 170 00:16:58,020 --> 00:17:02,320 So there's slide different petition types that we can only charge $15 and not $50 for. 171 00:17:02,540 --> 00:17:03,180 So that's added. 172 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:05,100 It's in section one of the rest solution. 173 00:17:05,420 --> 00:17:09,640 Otherwise we will be charging $50 per petition so long as the board adopts this resolution. 174 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:17,080 Okay. There's no questions like a promotion, so the motion to approve by Mr. Vice-Second, 175 00:17:17,500 --> 00:17:18,900 by Commissioner Laco, all in favor. 176 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:20,300 Okay. 177 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:25,200 Okay. 178 00:17:25,820 --> 00:17:27,660 Is it approval of the initial certifications? 179 00:17:28,100 --> 00:17:29,840 There are Department of Revenue Forms 12D. 180 00:17:31,180 --> 00:17:31,500 I'm sorry. 181 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:36,880 Department of Revenue Forms D, R480, P1 for real property, and one for tangible property, 182 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,340 and we'll be asking the chair to sign those at the end of this meeting. 183 00:17:39,340 --> 00:17:42,720 We have our motion. 184 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:43,620 So moved. 185 00:17:43,900 --> 00:17:45,000 Through by Commissioner Loco. 186 00:17:45,360 --> 00:17:46,820 Second, my amiss of all. 187 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:48,020 Did you do second, sir? 188 00:17:48,260 --> 00:17:48,760 I'm sorry. 189 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:50,060 All right. 190 00:17:50,660 --> 00:17:51,280 You second, right? 191 00:17:51,620 --> 00:17:53,760 So I started to make, I can move. 192 00:17:54,180 --> 00:17:55,140 Second is fine by me. 193 00:17:56,060 --> 00:17:57,180 So we have a motion by Commissioner. 194 00:17:57,620 --> 00:17:58,300 I'll have a second by school. 195 00:17:58,360 --> 00:18:00,820 Remember, Mr. Ball, all in favor? 196 00:18:01,020 --> 00:18:01,720 I'm sorry. 197 00:18:01,940 --> 00:18:02,160 I'm sorry. 198 00:18:03,340 --> 00:18:04,220 All right. 199 00:18:04,220 --> 00:18:04,520 You second, right? 200 00:18:04,860 --> 00:18:06,520 So I started to make. 201 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:06,580 I can move. 202 00:18:06,580 --> 00:18:07,280 Second is fine by me. 203 00:18:08,580 --> 00:18:08,720 Okay. 204 00:18:09,380 --> 00:18:10,300 So we have a motion by Commissioner. 205 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:16,180 reflecting all of the lead law changes, and what I did was I created an index for each 206 00:18:16,180 --> 00:18:17,080 one of those. 207 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:23,460 So it's the first page of Exhibit L. It would be page 60 of the digital packet. It's just 208 00:18:23,460 --> 00:18:30,480 a title plus just a second line of a blurb of what those PTO bulletins cover if anybody would 209 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:35,080 like have any questions about those please let me know. And then I provided the bulletins 210 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:41,800 And then after that, I provided all of the proposed changes to the rules, Florida administrative 211 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:46,240 code 12-D-9, and most of it focuses on remote hearings. 212 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:51,100 And I will advise the board on that later on in this meeting. 213 00:18:52,340 --> 00:18:58,820 But the bottom line is that they were leaning very heavily towards Zoom, and then kind of 214 00:18:58,820 --> 00:18:59,260 backed off. 215 00:18:59,340 --> 00:19:03,380 I will tell you, I was a part of every single department of revenue workshop in hearing 216 00:19:03,380 --> 00:19:05,620 on all of the proposed rules advocating 217 00:19:05,620 --> 00:19:07,620 zealously for my vap clients. 218 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:10,320 And so there's quite a few changes in here 219 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:13,680 that are due to my statements along with other 220 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,420 vap attorneys that came and advocated for their clients. 221 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,600 And so they have backed off of pushing for Zoom. 222 00:19:22,780 --> 00:19:24,820 And now telephonic is still acceptable 223 00:19:24,820 --> 00:19:26,560 as long as Zoom is not participle. 224 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:30,540 And then finally there are a few new DOR forms. 225 00:19:30,540 --> 00:19:38,180 one being the D.O.R. hearing the hearing notice, D.R. 488, I'm sorry, D.R. 481, and D.R. 481, 226 00:19:38,220 --> 00:19:43,720 R.M., and then there are two new petition, updates to petition filing forms, D.R. 486, 227 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:45,140 and the D.R. 486 port. 228 00:19:47,060 --> 00:19:49,880 I'm standing good information. No vote needed on that correct? 229 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:50,140 Correct. 230 00:19:51,360 --> 00:19:54,860 We're going to move on to M and I believe we can do all of these, right? Sorry. Sorry. 231 00:19:55,020 --> 00:19:55,500 I just wish you Mr. Lange. 232 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,980 Just for the record, can you explain how in the tell- 233 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:25,500 We have telephonic procedures that the special magistrate will qualify the person speaking, and they will ask them for their name, their address, their affiliation to the property, and our local policies and procedures are included here, and I can explain exactly what we have. 234 00:20:25,500 --> 00:20:27,040 I assume that under oath to rain. 235 00:20:27,300 --> 00:20:33,780 They are under oath, and while I appreciate that all of you take this process very seriously, 236 00:20:35,180 --> 00:20:39,700 our magistrates, we did this last year what we did away with the affidavit, and we had just 237 00:20:39,700 --> 00:20:49,280 the oath and the identifying of the person's speech verbally, and the magistrates came back 238 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:54,540 and said that there weren't any issues, they didn't have any issues, but there will be, 239 00:20:54,540 --> 00:20:58,900 there will be just essentially the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the magistrate will ask for 240 00:20:58,900 --> 00:20:59,860 qualifying information. 241 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:00,640 Thank you. 242 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:01,220 Thank you. 243 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:01,780 My pleasure. 244 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:02,640 Okay. 245 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:03,100 The permission. 246 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:03,940 Proceed to them. 247 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:07,120 We're going to move on to M, and I believe we can take all of these right once you do. 248 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:09,460 I will read these all into the record. 249 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:13,540 I will advise for the record that all of these resources are in the room. 250 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,400 And they are also on our honorable clerks of our website. 251 00:21:16,540 --> 00:21:17,300 And our website. 252 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:18,800 I checked is compliant. 253 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:25,200 Every link works, everything points where it needs to, and everything that is required to be there is there. 254 00:21:25,740 --> 00:21:34,880 We have a Florida administrative code 12D9, 12D10, the uniform rules of procedure for hearings, and value adjustment boards. 255 00:21:35,500 --> 00:21:43,920 We have Florida administrative code chapters or sections 12D51.001, 12D51.003. 256 00:21:44,140 --> 00:21:48,120 We have Florida Statutes 192, 193, 194 and 195. 257 00:21:48,120 --> 00:22:03,660 Florida government in Sunshine Manual, Florida Department of Revenue for uniform policies and procedures manual, all the VAB forms that have been adopted by the Department of Revenue, and a general information on the Florida property tax system, 258 00:22:03,860 --> 00:22:14,900 respective roles within the system, taxpayer opportunities to participate in the system, and property tax payer rights, and that document, which is M7, is included in your packet, 259 00:22:14,900 --> 00:22:29,640 It starts on digital page 115, and it is a three-page document, and I will advise that it has been updated with the taxpayer rights of having the right to appear using electronic or other communication equipment. 260 00:22:30,580 --> 00:22:31,580 Okay, great information. 261 00:22:31,860 --> 00:22:32,400 There's no questions. 262 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:33,460 We'll entertain motion. 263 00:22:34,340 --> 00:22:34,960 So moved. 264 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:35,900 And I'm most of my Mr. 265 00:22:35,980 --> 00:22:38,260 Vice Secretary for M1 through seven. 266 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:38,880 Second. 267 00:22:38,980 --> 00:22:39,940 I can wish to lock him. 268 00:22:40,020 --> 00:22:40,460 All in favor? 269 00:22:40,980 --> 00:22:41,060 Aye. 270 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:42,940 I carries four zero. 271 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:44,440 Move on to N. 272 00:22:45,300 --> 00:22:45,620 Number one. 273 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:46,640 Okay. 274 00:22:47,460 --> 00:22:49,980 And one is the ratification of. 275 00:22:50,100 --> 00:22:51,140 We can do these all three. 276 00:22:51,620 --> 00:22:52,020 We can do that. 277 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:52,520 Yes, sir. 278 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:54,880 We have the picture-shener information sheet, 279 00:22:55,120 --> 00:22:58,060 which is just gives a good little general synopsis 280 00:22:58,060 --> 00:23:03,080 of the bad process here in Hernando County and some of the things that a petitioner can expect. 281 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:10,540 At mailing address filing fees, second document is the exchange of evidence information sheet, 282 00:23:10,540 --> 00:23:17,820 and that has to do this does not supersede. Florida rules and statutes on evidence exchange. 283 00:23:17,820 --> 00:23:23,440 This depends that with local requirements as far as what size to provide and how many copies of 284 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:30,540 of evidence and thirdly is the telephonic hearing policies and this is where I will let you know 285 00:23:30,540 --> 00:23:36,820 that again due to the heavy work on the part of everybody involved in Florida, the Department 286 00:23:36,820 --> 00:23:43,700 of Revenue has allowed telephonic to be an appropriate method for electronic or other communication 287 00:23:43,700 --> 00:23:44,400 equipment. 288 00:23:45,900 --> 00:23:48,560 And so Zoom is not required at this time. 289 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:53,860 Hernando County did find that Zoom was not participle and that's the language in the in the role 290 00:23:53,860 --> 00:23:56,860 They that they don't have to do Zoom if it's not participle 291 00:23:56,860 --> 00:24:01,640 But I do want to make sure that I let the board know that even though it's not required yet 292 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,980 The Zoom's on the her assumes the teams web X, whichever you know 293 00:24:04,980 --> 00:24:07,800 I we use Zoom completely for all of them 294 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:09,640 But it's on the horizon, okay 295 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:15,540 It's going to happen and at some point when we do and are able in Hernando County to incorporate Zoom 296 00:24:15,540 --> 00:24:20,360 there's probably going to be a cost about it, and we'll need to talk with you all about funding. 297 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:25,640 And it will hit the budget, and if that had been has anything else they want to add to that, 298 00:24:25,780 --> 00:24:30,440 I just was, I needed to make sure that you all understood that at this point we don't have additional costs. 299 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:36,940 We're going to proceed continuing with telephonic, but at some point, if we do incorporate Zoom if we're required to incorporate Zoom, 300 00:24:37,140 --> 00:24:40,540 there's probably going to be some costs involved in implementing that. 301 00:24:40,540 --> 00:24:48,760 Yeah, we're painfully aware of the unfunded mandates from the state, thank all of us are, so the no surprise there. 302 00:24:50,500 --> 00:24:51,140 Hi, you press. 303 00:24:51,460 --> 00:24:53,320 I have been working with Kurt Corvant. 304 00:24:53,700 --> 00:24:57,760 Do you get our room ready for Zoom team hearings? 305 00:24:58,160 --> 00:24:59,580 And I believe he would like to speak. 306 00:25:04,300 --> 00:25:06,100 Thank you. Members, 307 00:25:08,140 --> 00:25:14,040 this room had gone over some changes in the past to make it more visible and we do 308 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:19,700 believe we will be able to accommodate it for small costs. Obviously there is always going to be some sort 309 00:25:19,700 --> 00:25:29,980 of cost when it is after the fact that we did some foreplanning on this type of issue to be more 310 00:25:29,980 --> 00:25:36,180 because we have said cross-meets to apologize has advised that it is coming, you know, it's just 311 00:25:36,180 --> 00:25:42,080 unfortunately it's a way of the future that's coming. I prefer the in-house in person type thing 312 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:48,100 and I will hold the rest of my comments regarding telephonic hearings for citizens. 313 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:54,200 Thank you. Thank you for your information. Your team does a great job with the technology 314 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:58,280 and that and I tell you I hope it doesn't come to the county commission meetings. That's going to be a circus. 315 00:25:59,060 --> 00:26:02,680 When all of this starts happening and everybody starts dying, I wanted to make a comment. 316 00:26:03,780 --> 00:26:04,940 I just, I pray it doesn't happen. 317 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:05,420 I agree. 318 00:26:05,860 --> 00:26:12,520 It began kudos to my staff both in administrative services, which does the VAB support process 319 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:17,020 and to the technology team for having the forethought to look at this kind of stuff. 320 00:26:17,780 --> 00:26:20,660 So we have a great team here in her name to unproud of the part of it. 321 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:21,800 You absolutely do. 322 00:26:22,020 --> 00:26:23,380 I second half. 323 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,960 I would like to just add for the board's information. 324 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,140 and our experience with telephonic hearings 325 00:26:30,140 --> 00:26:33,440 are it's typically representatives 326 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,020 that are representing multiple property 327 00:26:36,020 --> 00:26:36,960 that are filed. 328 00:26:37,140 --> 00:26:40,780 It's not your average homestead and own property owner. 329 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:42,380 Those are very few. 330 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:43,880 They want to come in person. 331 00:26:43,980 --> 00:26:45,640 They want to have a face-to-face 332 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,500 and bring their evidence, they sit right here 333 00:26:47,500 --> 00:26:50,680 at this table, and have that back and forth 334 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,620 with the property of Fraser's representatives 335 00:26:52,620 --> 00:26:53,880 and the magistrate. 336 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,940 So we have a process that has been working 337 00:26:56,940 --> 00:27:04,360 very well for us for telephonic hearings, but I will provide you an update at the end of the season, 338 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:10,260 so let you know if we've had an uptick in those residential property owners here, but that has not been 339 00:27:10,260 --> 00:27:17,260 our experience. Well, I would just for the record, I would imagine that most people, if the county is 340 00:27:17,260 --> 00:27:21,000 wrong and they prefer to send their evidence, there's a negotiation, and most of those are handled 341 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:25,820 before they're hearing unless there's a clear conflict, correct? There can be a settlement with the 342 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:32,340 or a withdrawal if they have it informal or a conference with the property ofraisers 343 00:27:32,340 --> 00:27:37,620 office, they can always withdraw or settle their petition prior to hearing even here 344 00:27:37,620 --> 00:27:42,140 at the table. We've had negotiations happen here and they withdraw or settle right 345 00:27:42,140 --> 00:27:46,840 here at the table and then the magistrate doesn't have to consider the evidence and provide 346 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:47,980 a recommendation. That's 347 00:27:47,980 --> 00:27:49,200 always better. Of course. 348 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:49,880 That's what 349 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:51,720 we need to lawyers all the time to make that happen. 350 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:52,540 All right, I'm going to give a change. 351 00:27:53,660 --> 00:27:54,240 Yes, sir. 352 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:55,300 Mad, something on that. 353 00:27:55,580 --> 00:27:59,760 On behalf of our property prisoner who's not unable to be here today, but his staff absolutely 354 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:06,840 is, since we had a changing of the guard, I will say that that negotiation process seems to have 355 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,180 gone a lot more smoother than it has historically. 356 00:28:09,820 --> 00:28:12,000 In the past, I can attest to my staff. 357 00:28:12,260 --> 00:28:15,680 Well, I won't put them on the spot, but they'll attest it if someone had a disagreement. 358 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,000 They would just point them to the VAB process. 359 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:26,820 We're as now our property advisors in their staff are definitely more open to like having this open discussion before they even get to this process that we're talking about today 360 00:28:27,300 --> 00:28:32,740 So kudos to our property's printer staff as well. Definitely. I think Randy and his team are doing a fantastic job 361 00:28:32,740 --> 00:28:37,360 And that's better, but we wanted to go shade and we want to make sure if we're wrong and they have the evidence 362 00:28:37,360 --> 00:28:42,280 Let's not waste it by the time. Let's just let's just get it done and I see a lot of I see some head shaking at that 363 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,220 That's a great thing. So good job. You guys 364 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:46,260 There's no more questions we're looking for. 365 00:28:46,420 --> 00:28:48,460 Motion to approve and one through three. 366 00:28:49,300 --> 00:28:52,120 Motion to approve and one through three by Mr. Vice-secret. 367 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,320 Second by Commissioner Loco on the favor. 368 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:54,760 Hi. 369 00:28:55,420 --> 00:28:56,480 The carries four zero. 370 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:58,380 All right, we're on to O public comment. 371 00:28:58,500 --> 00:29:00,080 Is anyone here from the public? 372 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:00,940 We'd like to speak. 373 00:29:01,380 --> 00:29:01,860 Oh, there you go. 374 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:03,100 Mr. Corbott. 375 00:29:03,260 --> 00:29:04,460 I mean, I need something to record. 376 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:05,240 You know, mine. 377 00:29:05,980 --> 00:29:07,060 This is not perfect. 378 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:08,080 Are you really coming up, though? 379 00:29:08,100 --> 00:29:08,820 Talk. Okay. 380 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:09,560 All right. 381 00:29:09,580 --> 00:29:12,220 We're going to ask for a recognize Mr. Corbott. 382 00:29:12,220 --> 00:29:12,560 Thank you. 383 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:12,900 Thank you. 384 00:29:13,180 --> 00:29:17,380 Value adjustment board policy provides the opportunity at this point in the meeting to address 385 00:29:17,380 --> 00:29:21,320 the board concerning any matter on the agenda or concerning the Hernandez County 386 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:22,540 Value adjustment board process. 387 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:27,000 The board will not consider subject matter of any public comment which is provided with 388 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:31,140 the intention of appealing in portion of any special matter should record or value adjustment 389 00:29:31,140 --> 00:29:32,120 board vinyl decision. 390 00:29:32,900 --> 00:29:37,720 As for students who Florida statute 194.036, the appropriate relief would be through the 391 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:38,340 circuit court. 392 00:29:38,540 --> 00:29:40,940 The maximum time a lot of per speaker is three minutes. 393 00:29:40,940 --> 00:29:45,000 there are guidelines for public comment. If there are guidelines for public comment, please review 394 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,300 those prior to approaching the board for comment. Thank you. 395 00:29:49,180 --> 00:29:51,060 We're going to miss Mr. Corbett. I'm not going to turn on the timer. 396 00:29:51,300 --> 00:29:51,900 I think you know the rules. 397 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:52,320 Yeah. 398 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,480 I will buy that promise. 399 00:29:54,900 --> 00:29:58,080 You guys have comments at the end that you'd like me to speak on. 400 00:29:59,200 --> 00:29:59,960 So the telephonic. 401 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:14,320 In the team's issue, I won't say issue, the approaching item that we're going to have to deal with. My biggest concern during this process and working with staff is we're trying to make government more efficient. 402 00:30:15,140 --> 00:30:18,680 And the way that the DOR had gone down the path that was 403 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,100 almost to the point where anybody at any point in time 404 00:30:21,100 --> 00:30:22,580 could request that. 405 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,860 So in speaking with staff, logically, 406 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,940 you would set up a meeting date or two or three 407 00:30:28,940 --> 00:30:31,120 for those types of meetings so that we don't have to have 408 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,400 everybody come here or magistrates that we're paying. 409 00:30:34,740 --> 00:30:36,540 I can't remember what our rates are, but they've gone up 410 00:30:36,540 --> 00:30:40,580 as everything else has to drive here to sit on a telephonic hearing. 411 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,860 I was my understanding that that was not something 412 00:30:43,860 --> 00:30:50,760 the D.R. are considered. And I hope that we can get some legislation continued in this process 413 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:57,280 to fix that kind of inefficiency that exists in government. My second item is late filing. 414 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:04,800 This has always been a problem for me. The law is very clear. Yeah, so many days to file it. 415 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:09,680 I'm happy that they finally raised it from $15 to $50, which still doesn't cover anything. 416 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:16,600 But I would love to see lake fees be raised to where at least cover the cost of the attorney 417 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:23,920 having to review those types of issues because they still just pay the $50 fee and I would 418 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:29,800 say 99% of the time and hernano at least those are denied because the reason for them supplying 419 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:33,120 it is not adequate for the reasons they should be submitting. 420 00:31:33,900 --> 00:31:38,060 I know that's probably not a popular thing for the public but we have to have processes in place 421 00:31:38,060 --> 00:31:41,040 to remain efficient as we can. 422 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,720 I agree 100%, but on the second item, 423 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,380 I know the first item when you legislate of change 424 00:31:45,380 --> 00:31:47,620 has been on the second item, is that something we can address 425 00:31:47,620 --> 00:31:48,980 as far as that, or is that legislative? 426 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:50,640 It's legislative, as well. 427 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,700 And I don't know, Ms. Cowsby, if you've had other counties, 428 00:31:54,900 --> 00:31:56,460 issue the same kind of complaints, 429 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,280 but it's just very frustrating. 430 00:31:59,020 --> 00:32:00,720 And a day when the state is saying this, 431 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:02,720 you should be more efficient on this, this, and this, 432 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,900 and then they allow a state agency to force 433 00:32:05,900 --> 00:32:11,200 the inefficiency down upon us, which I know you all view with, a regular race. 434 00:32:11,460 --> 00:32:17,520 I don't disagree with you one bit, a lot of my time, a lot of my, especially in September 435 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:21,200 and October, is spent reviewing late-file petitions. 436 00:32:21,780 --> 00:32:25,760 And I can tell you that when I deny them, it does still save some money, because then we 437 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:29,840 don't have to pay the magistrate to hear that matter, because there's not good cause for 438 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:33,440 the late filing, but it is an impact on the board and on revenue. 439 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:39,020 and I acknowledge that I try to get through them as quickly as I can and I don't rewrite 440 00:32:39,020 --> 00:32:44,500 every single one. I copy and paste language, so I try to keep them as efficient as possible 441 00:32:44,500 --> 00:32:49,940 because I'm cognizant that there is a financial impact. What you're saying is absolutely correct 442 00:32:49,940 --> 00:32:56,580 and it wouldn't hurt to charge a late filing fee if they're late. It's a good idea. Unfortunately, 443 00:32:56,660 --> 00:33:02,780 we can't do it. It is legislative. I would love to impact that way to soften the blow and 444 00:33:02,780 --> 00:33:07,880 frame more of the process on the person that's filing late. 445 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,320 It's a very valid concern and I appreciate you lodging it today. 446 00:33:11,700 --> 00:33:15,820 So would it be value added for us to agree and consent that we 447 00:33:15,820 --> 00:33:17,380 ask a legislation to look into this? 448 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,000 Maybe if there was a letter or something, so. 449 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:21,420 I would like to commit to a lot of the speech first. 450 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:22,100 I was right on. 451 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:24,840 My question was actually to ask. 452 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,900 Will the clerks as a clerks association going to request 453 00:33:27,900 --> 00:33:30,660 that it as a state of item this year? 454 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,760 I don't know if it'll be one of our items this year. 455 00:33:35,220 --> 00:33:38,080 I know we are constantly historically speaking, 456 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,840 our most far legislation is always geared around the courts 457 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:42,800 because we have to ask the state for finances. 458 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,620 Whereas in here, it's our comptroller also. 459 00:33:45,660 --> 00:33:47,780 We have to negotiate that with you all. 460 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,400 There's a heavy, heavy push on the clerks and controllers around the state 461 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,060 to focus more on the comptroller function also. 462 00:33:54,700 --> 00:34:00,320 And I have gotten a lot of feedback from folks that I work with 463 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,300 around the state that are anxious to do this type of thing. 464 00:34:03,820 --> 00:34:09,080 So I could see it being a, we usually try to run an efficiency bill and the funding bill. 465 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:14,060 So it would probably be one of those efficiency type bills that just address eight 466 00:34:14,060 --> 00:34:14,680 problem in the room. 467 00:34:14,820 --> 00:34:15,400 So yes, sir. 468 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:15,700 I apologize. 469 00:34:16,240 --> 00:34:16,720 Yes, sir. 470 00:34:17,020 --> 00:34:23,900 I personally would have no problem if that actually is filed for you to reach out 471 00:34:23,900 --> 00:34:29,420 to me for a letter from me saying I would be an agreement with this as a commissioner. 472 00:34:29,420 --> 00:34:31,420 I agree as well. 473 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,880 May I also add something just so you understand the impact? 474 00:34:35,660 --> 00:34:37,880 It doesn't actually impact the clerk's budget. 475 00:34:38,240 --> 00:34:39,160 It impacts, right? 476 00:34:39,380 --> 00:34:40,880 I mean, we're going to read on that. 477 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:44,760 The bill goes to the BOCC in the school board, 60 percent, 40 percent. 478 00:34:45,100 --> 00:34:49,080 So what he's doing is he's actually advocating on behalf of you all's budget. 479 00:34:49,900 --> 00:34:51,200 But we're a team. 480 00:34:51,340 --> 00:34:51,840 We're a team. 481 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:52,960 I mean, he's clerk to the lab. 482 00:34:53,180 --> 00:34:57,860 So I appreciate that support, but at the end of the day, it does impact really truly 483 00:34:57,860 --> 00:34:59,980 financially and impacts the BOCC in school board. 484 00:35:00,300 --> 00:35:11,360 Mr. Paul agrees and we can also, you know, get with your board, maybe we can get both of us together to agree to that, to add it, or we just take it up on a B.O.C. side. B.O.C.C. side. 485 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:12,400 Thank you. 486 00:35:15,580 --> 00:35:25,240 That would be an appropriate, very appropriate move forward, looking at the last page of what the charges were last year. 487 00:35:27,710 --> 00:35:34,210 pretty substantial. Yeah, that's a large amount of money to for both of us to have to 488 00:35:34,210 --> 00:35:39,750 to expense. So yes, anything that we could do to work together would be appreciated. 489 00:35:40,550 --> 00:35:43,710 And ultimately our citizens, because that's where the money comes from. Definitely. 490 00:35:44,050 --> 00:35:49,930 Much of welcome. Yes. My last question would be for attorney. And I know you're very efficient, 491 00:35:50,390 --> 00:35:55,010 but I just when you were talking about, you know, copying and pasting and stuff, 492 00:35:55,010 --> 00:36:00,570 is it possible to have a denial form that just lists the different items and you can check off 493 00:36:00,570 --> 00:36:04,010 which ones are the ones that they know have not qualified for it. 494 00:36:04,230 --> 00:36:11,910 It could be, but I will tell you that it is so much more efficient to make sure that I stayed 495 00:36:11,910 --> 00:36:16,610 in there the petitioner provided X and then they provided Y and then due to that unfortunately 496 00:36:16,610 --> 00:36:23,990 pursuant to this rule. A lot of those things are already there. I just copy from one and 497 00:36:23,990 --> 00:36:27,890 to the other and then just add the information as far as what they provided and what I reviewed. 498 00:36:28,370 --> 00:36:34,770 But my review notes should sort of reflect what a recommended decision provides so that when 499 00:36:34,770 --> 00:36:39,370 the petitioner sees it, they can see that I am acknowledging they provided their airline flights 500 00:36:39,370 --> 00:36:43,930 and their whatever or they failed after being requested for their flight at January or their 501 00:36:43,930 --> 00:36:47,930 hotel state or whatever I am asking for, that they failed to provide that. 502 00:36:48,070 --> 00:36:53,390 So it has to be somewhat detailed because that that prevents me from having to go back 503 00:36:53,390 --> 00:36:57,370 Again, because trust, when I originally tried to do it and keep it super simple and said, 504 00:36:57,430 --> 00:37:03,910 unfortunately, pursuant to afford administrative code 12, the 9.015 sub-15, 14 sub-A, 505 00:37:04,010 --> 00:37:07,490 you did not need these qualifications, a lot of things came back. 506 00:37:07,830 --> 00:37:09,010 Well, what didn't I provide? 507 00:37:09,070 --> 00:37:10,110 What didn't I do? 508 00:37:10,530 --> 00:37:15,630 You doesn't even look like you looked at my information, so it prevents me having to go back 509 00:37:15,630 --> 00:37:15,910 again. 510 00:37:16,010 --> 00:37:17,050 It's a very detailed thing. 511 00:37:17,190 --> 00:37:20,770 It's done the first time and it's done, and I'm typically 15, and it's on those 512 00:37:20,770 --> 00:37:21,450 15s, 20. 513 00:37:21,650 --> 00:37:21,990 Thank you. 514 00:37:23,610 --> 00:37:24,590 There's no other comments. 515 00:37:24,870 --> 00:37:25,450 Thank you, Ms. Corba. 516 00:37:25,790 --> 00:37:26,250 Thank you. 517 00:37:26,250 --> 00:37:29,010 We'll move on to Council's closing comments. 518 00:37:29,470 --> 00:37:31,030 Actually, we're going to pee one first. 519 00:37:31,030 --> 00:37:31,790 Do you want some food? 520 00:37:31,950 --> 00:37:32,150 Sorry. 521 00:37:32,430 --> 00:37:32,830 File petition. 522 00:37:34,250 --> 00:37:36,350 And you have that information in your packet. 523 00:37:37,130 --> 00:37:45,130 And you can see a little larger that you can see that our petition load has increased steadily. 524 00:37:45,770 --> 00:37:47,870 2020, we'll start with just 2021. 525 00:37:48,090 --> 00:38:04,750 We had 171 petitions, then 2228, 223, 366, 224, 398, 225, 433, and at this point it looks like we've had two petitions filed this year so far. 526 00:38:05,650 --> 00:38:11,070 I think the number is going to drastically increase because the numbers, the property values are dropping. 527 00:38:14,270 --> 00:38:18,970 And I mean, I'm assuming our property page is going to do a great job, but that I'm sure they will. 528 00:38:19,490 --> 00:38:21,510 But there's definitely a change in the market. 529 00:38:22,550 --> 00:38:24,710 If anything, it's stagnant for sure. 530 00:38:25,170 --> 00:38:25,630 Commissioner Walker. 531 00:38:27,030 --> 00:38:32,030 The biggest challenge is for people understanding that property taxes are retroactive. 532 00:38:36,110 --> 00:38:38,150 I try to make sure I explain that to people. 533 00:38:38,150 --> 00:38:40,670 and your property was assessed on January 1st. 534 00:38:40,910 --> 00:38:41,430 It's a two-to-value. 535 00:38:41,650 --> 00:38:44,070 It doesn't matter what happens during this year. 536 00:38:45,670 --> 00:38:49,090 And it's very difficult for people to understand that. 537 00:38:49,450 --> 00:38:50,930 I've brought this up numerous times. 538 00:38:51,050 --> 00:38:52,850 Everyone knows that I'm involved in the real estate. 539 00:38:52,870 --> 00:38:55,930 I think one of the things that we need to change at the state level, 540 00:38:56,630 --> 00:39:00,390 quite frankly, is when homes are being sold rather than telling you 541 00:39:00,390 --> 00:39:03,470 what the previous owner of the property is paying in property taxes, 542 00:39:04,050 --> 00:39:08,130 it should say it should require you to show what the property taxes would 543 00:39:08,130 --> 00:39:14,590 be if purchased at list price. And then you would certainly see a big difference in how people 544 00:39:14,590 --> 00:39:17,290 address real estate. We don't want to do that. 545 00:39:17,570 --> 00:39:19,610 That might deter us in for my own problems. 546 00:39:19,870 --> 00:39:23,850 Well, that's fine. But in the end, it relieves a lot of other problems. I don't think there's 547 00:39:23,850 --> 00:39:28,110 too many real estate agents or brokers who would be upset with that. They'd probably rather 548 00:39:28,110 --> 00:39:31,770 because it keeps the headaches down. This is what it is. You know, you don't have to say, 549 00:39:32,270 --> 00:39:37,310 well, I can't really tell you what it's going to be. You have an estimate because we don't 550 00:39:37,310 --> 00:39:41,970 of that person disabled, that person living in the house 100 years, you know, if they bought 551 00:39:41,970 --> 00:39:46,910 it a year ago, you know, we don't know how their taxes were assessed and why. 552 00:39:47,630 --> 00:39:53,310 And I've heard conversations of this several times, it's not moved forward, but I'm almost 553 00:39:53,310 --> 00:39:56,070 to the point where I'm wondering if it's going to be something that maybe is even addressed 554 00:39:56,070 --> 00:39:58,290 at the federal level because it's a problem everywhere. 555 00:39:58,290 --> 00:39:59,910 Yeah, I had a 556 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:05,340 I'll tell you a story. I had a chaude story. I had a bought-up property and did some work on and sold it, and it was a homestead 557 00:40:05,340 --> 00:40:12,320 prior, and the title company didn't do a good job of estimating the taxes and went from 6,000 to 17,000. I was on the hook. 558 00:40:12,620 --> 00:40:20,760 I had to cut each check and pay because they did estimate the taxes right because I had my portion that I was responsible for. 559 00:40:20,820 --> 00:40:26,400 And it was, I was like, is this legal thing? Yes, we should have estimated these taxes that you should have paid your portion. 560 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:31,160 it was eye-opening. That's for sure. So there's definitely mistakes we made and we should disclose 561 00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:38,140 these things to the system. All right, when we move on to, we're done with P1, so we need P2 now. 562 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:42,780 Yes, P2 is the additional compliance items and I will go through them as quickly as I can. You have 563 00:40:42,780 --> 00:40:47,600 the compliance checklist in your packet. It has been updated since because I did take the 564 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:53,280 training in past the exam. So you have the compliance checklist. I have gone through this while 565 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,060 We are going through the meeting and making sure that we address all the items. 566 00:40:56,540 --> 00:40:59,020 There are a few that I need to make sure that I get on the verbatim. 567 00:40:59,340 --> 00:41:04,680 I want to advise that I have verified that the citizen members have met the criteria required 568 00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:11,160 in Florida statute 194.015 in Florida administrative code, 12.0404. 569 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:16,120 I would like to make sure that I get on the record that no verb members will be representing 570 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:22,100 other governmental entities or taxpayers in any administrative or judicial review of property 571 00:41:22,100 --> 00:41:37,600 And what that means in plain language is if everybody could signify by yes or no, well any of you be representing a taxpayer property owner in a bad matter or in the courts with regards to property assessments or classifications exemptions. 572 00:41:37,820 --> 00:41:37,900 No. 573 00:41:38,980 --> 00:41:39,100 No. 574 00:41:39,340 --> 00:41:39,360 No. 575 00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:40,520 Have a negative on a report. 576 00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:41,360 Thank you very much. 577 00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:42,480 I've also identified council. 578 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,580 If you had your personal property and had to do a VIP, 579 00:41:47,860 --> 00:41:48,260 that's different. 580 00:41:48,260 --> 00:41:49,880 as different, you are not representing 581 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,140 an other governmental entity or other taxpayer, 582 00:41:52,500 --> 00:41:53,700 you'd be representing yourself. 583 00:41:54,340 --> 00:41:55,840 That's possible, that's possible. 584 00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:57,000 That's possible for anybody. 585 00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,500 Commissions, tax payer, and you have that right. 586 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:02,580 For your own properties, absolutely. 587 00:42:03,420 --> 00:42:05,180 I will just want to make sure at Mr. Bicek, 588 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,840 or you're not a member or employee of a taxing authority. 589 00:42:08,140 --> 00:42:08,540 You're welcome. 590 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:09,740 Thank you. 591 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:11,400 I will advise for the record of the devab 592 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,680 is willing to consider any written complaint file 593 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:17,440 with respect to a special magistrate by any party 594 00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:22,080 citizens. All procedures and forms of the board, our special magistrates, are in compliance 595 00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:29,340 of Florida statute 194, and section floor section 194, and Florida Ministry of Code 129. The 596 00:42:29,340 --> 00:42:34,920 vabbison compliance with Florida statute 194 and Florida Administrative Code 129, and I ensure 597 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:40,220 that throughout the process. I will advise that our local procedures are ministerial in nature 598 00:42:40,220 --> 00:42:45,520 and are not inconsistent with governing statutes, case law, attorney general opinions, or rules 599 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:50,620 the Department of Revenue. Finally, there are two items that I report every year cannot be 600 00:42:50,620 --> 00:42:55,940 have not been complied with at this time, and those two items are that all official magistrates 601 00:42:55,940 --> 00:43:00,860 have received the Department of Revenue training and have completed this same end past 602 00:43:00,860 --> 00:43:05,880 any corresponding exam, and that's because the training was issued on August 4th, and it's really 603 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:10,280 only reasonable to expect that our magistrates to complete that training prior to holding hearings 604 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:14,560 here in Hernando County and that administration and I make sure that we keep on top of that 605 00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:16,860 that if somebody is here to preside over hearings 606 00:43:16,860 --> 00:43:19,040 that they made sure to complete the training first. 607 00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,680 The remaining item is that the notices 608 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,260 have been given to the chief executive officer 609 00:43:24,260 --> 00:43:29,880 of each municipality as provided in Florida statute 193.116. 610 00:43:30,100 --> 00:43:32,780 And what that is, is that when a petition is filed here 611 00:43:32,780 --> 00:43:34,840 in Hernandez County, if the property, 612 00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,520 the subject property falls within a municipality 613 00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,480 with a city of town of whatever it is. 614 00:43:40,780 --> 00:43:43,760 That notice of hearing needs to go to the petitioner 615 00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:47,620 the property appraiser and the CEO of that municipality or like position. 616 00:43:48,620 --> 00:43:52,020 That hasn't been accomplished because no hearings have been set yet, but I can assure 617 00:43:52,020 --> 00:43:55,400 you that that administration is really good about keeping on top of that and during the 618 00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:59,960 final meeting, I will bring back to you this compliance checklist complete with all of 619 00:43:59,960 --> 00:44:04,440 the special magistrate Department of Revenue Certifications for their training and complete 620 00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:09,220 with a copy of any of the notices that the administration has provided to the CEOs 621 00:44:09,220 --> 00:44:14,500 to be any municipality and with that my presentation for P-2 concludes. 622 00:44:15,420 --> 00:44:15,760 Thank you. 623 00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:16,380 Thank you, council. 624 00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:19,200 We're moving on to closing comments. 625 00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:20,080 Start with you council. 626 00:44:20,420 --> 00:44:20,800 Anything else? 627 00:44:20,820 --> 00:44:21,260 No, sir. 628 00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:23,520 I'd like to continue to come here to her name. 629 00:44:23,720 --> 00:44:24,480 Thank you. 630 00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:24,900 Thank you. 631 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:25,900 Do a great job. 632 00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:26,580 Thank you. 633 00:44:27,140 --> 00:44:28,760 Mr. Wall. 634 00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:30,900 Okay. 635 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,380 Just glad that I could help out this morning. 636 00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:34,300 Thank you so much. 637 00:44:34,420 --> 00:44:35,120 We appreciate you. 638 00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:35,760 You saved us. 639 00:44:36,020 --> 00:44:36,660 You saved us. 640 00:44:36,660 --> 00:44:43,200 So I've been aware I've not been on bad in the past been aware of what goes on 641 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:51,260 But first time to participate and I certainly appreciate we appreciate you because we would have had the reschedule this afternoon and all of these people 642 00:44:51,260 --> 00:44:56,260 What had to come back? So you saved us all that's research. We love your excitement and if you'd like to join us 643 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,360 It's a member. I'll let Mark down. 644 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,020 There you go. I don't have anything else to worry about. 645 00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:06,400 Staff? 646 00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:13,920 All right. Well, let's now attend 48 with a journalist meeting of the value of just more work. Thank you.