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[0:01] Okay, this meeting of the Hernando Citroën Metropolitan Planning Organization Board is called to order. It is now 1-1-1-3-3-2.
[0:14] If you please stand with me for the invocation of
[0:20] me, Father, we thank you again for the opportunity to work with our Hernando in Citrus County representatives to focus on roads and the expansion of our travel systems, Lord.
[0:33] We thank you for the rain that you've been providing us.
[0:36] We'll just as we continue to bring it consistently.
[0:40] But, and steadily over the next several months,
[0:43] so we can replenish our hawk of our,
[0:45] or we pray for safety on our highways, our byways.
[0:49] We pray for everybody to get home safely
[0:50] from this meeting, and I ask us all in your name,
[0:52] Jesus Christ Amen.
[0:55] Congratulations to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands.
[1:03] One nation in London is called, with liberty and justice for all.
[1:11] All right.
[1:13] Thank everybody for whom you're jumping out of order a little bit.
[1:17] Silence all your cell phones and devices.
[1:20] And while you're doing that, we'll start with MPO Board and staff introductions.
[1:24] We'll start actually with Joy,
[1:31] Bob Esposito and P.O., Joe Meak, Christopher Ramayar, Ryan
[1:36] Amazon, her now in the county commissioner.
[1:38] Good afternoon, Jerry Campbell, her name is Captain Tesson.
[1:41] John Loco, her name is County Commission.
[1:46] Thank you.
[1:46] Thank you, Bayes.
[1:47] It's just County Commissioner.
[1:49] Lewis Hallow, City Council, Brooksville.
[1:56] Joy, do we have quorum?
[2:00] Thank you.
[2:02] Can you confirm that we had proper public notice?
[2:12] Very good.
[2:13] We are going to move on to item B approval or modification of our agenda.
[2:18] Do we have any modifications?
[2:21] If not, we look at our approval.
[2:23] We do not.
[2:24] Move approval agenda?
[2:28] Okay.
[2:28] We had a motion from Commissioner Bay's second for Commissioner Campbell.
[2:32] All in favor signify by saying hi.
[2:34] Aye.
[2:35] Any opposed to a passage unanimously?
[2:40] All right.
[2:41] Moving on.
[2:41] So I have to open my packet here moving on to item C consent agenda.
[2:48] Do you want to review those for us?
[2:50] Thank you chair. Yes.
[2:52] We have a review and approval of the June 14th, 2026 minutes of the hernana such as MPO.
[2:58] Number two, we have approval of member and alternate member representatives representing hernando County on the MPO board.
[3:05] And we have review and approval of the proposed 2027 meeting scheduled for the Hernandez
[3:11] such as Metropolitan Planning, Organization Board and Committees.
[3:16] Our citrus counterparts, are they sure they want to have it next year?
[3:19] Because we kind of like to hear.
[3:24] All right.
[3:24] If we have nothing to add, we look for a motion in a second.
[3:28] Chair, I'll move approval to Senator Jen Vacher.
[3:31] Hey, motion made by Councilman Meeks.
[3:35] Second.
[3:35] Second.
[3:36] by Commissioner Bay, CB2.
[3:38] All the favor signify by saying aye, aye.
[3:41] Any opposed?
[3:42] So the passage unanimously, seven zero,
[3:45] moving on to item D corresponded to note.
[3:50] Thank you, Chair.
[3:52] The first one is the Citrus County Local Agency
[3:55] Financial Resolution for East Citrus Springs Boulevard
[3:58] from US 41 to County Road 39.
[4:02] The Florida Department of Transportation
[4:04] additional seven offices, implementing new coordinating process with local agencies for projects
[4:09] included in the FDOT work program. A copy of the process has attached the purpose of the process
[4:15] to ensure agencies are informed and committed to projects within their jurisdiction that they
[4:21] are implementing or have requested FDOT to implement on their behalf and contained in the FDOT work
[4:27] program. The resolution was afforded to the Citrus County Administrator July 28, 2026
[4:33] for execution by the Citrus County Board of County Commissioners prior to the October
[4:37] 30, 2026 deadline. It is recommended that the local agency financial resolution process
[4:46] developed by FDOT is being provided for the MPO boards awareness. No action is required by the
[4:51] P.O. board at this time.
[4:54] For there are any questions.
[4:58] Seeing none?
[5:00] We'll move on to item E, our D2 real quick.
[5:04] Oh, sure, sorry. That's okay. This is a renewal of the contract number 23, RG0033 for RFQ,
[5:14] much Paulton planning, organization MPH, general planning, consultant services.
[5:19] We basically had a two year extension on our consultant services, and we've extended those and both of
[5:25] our consultants have agreed to be our consultants for the next two years.
[5:30] That's questions there. Any questions?
[5:33] All right, now we'll move on to item E. Go ahead, Bob.
[5:38] Okay, thank you, Chair. I'm going to have Mary Allen hand all this.
[5:42] This is a review and approval of a revision.
[5:44] One, fiscal year 2728 Unified Planning Work Program, also known as the UPWP
[5:49] to amend task 7, the Suncoge Transportation Planning Alliance support and shared task and update contract numbers.
[6:05] Good afternoon, Mary Ellen, for the record. The unified planning work program amendment contains just some amendments to task 7.
[6:17] test seven are UPWP language for regionally planning activities, mirrors all the other MPOs in the region.
[6:28] The other MPOs to the south are in a transportation management area, and because of that,
[6:36] they're in a more urbanized area, subject to different activities while we are not in a TMA area.
[6:43] So we don't have to put the list of activities in that agenda item that in that task 7 for our UPDWP.
[6:53] So we've removed them at the recommendation of FDOT.
[6:57] We've removed them and placed just the ones that are necessary to be in.
[7:02] And then the other changes deal with contract number assignments that have been given to us from FDOT since its adoption.
[7:12] We just went ahead and clarified all of those things and basically that's it is
[7:18] recommended the MPO board review and approve revision one of the fiscal year 2728
[7:24] U.P. W.P. to amend task seven, update her NANDA county membership on the MPO board and reflect
[7:31] the contract numbers and awarded amounts for transportation disadvantage contracts
[7:36] number G 3 R 9 1 in the amount of 26,922 dollars for Citrus County and Contract G 3 S 0 7 for
[7:48] Hernandez County in the amount of 28,12 dollars. Are there any questions of the board?
[7:57] Let's go to the public. Is there anyone from the public who would like to speak?
[8:03] Seeing none will come back to the board. We have any questions on anything from the board members.
[8:09] Nothing at all. So I just want to clarify the reason that all the tasks are struck through is because they don't need to they don't need to be
[8:20] It's described anymore.
[8:22] The task that we're actually included were a global list that got inserted into all of the MPOs in District 7.
[8:32] Since we are not in the same urbanized area as the southern MPOs, we do not have to have them in there and therefore do not have to do these activity.
[8:44] Gotcha.
[8:45] Yeah.
[8:47] So if there's no questions from the board I've been looking for motion in a second.
[8:52] Motion to approve.
[8:54] Motion by Commissioner Baze.
[8:57] Second.
[8:58] Second from Councilman Hallow.
[9:02] All in favour, sign in by by saying aye. Aye. Any opposed?
[9:07] So it passes unanimously.
[9:09] Seven zero. Thank you, Board.
[9:14] Okay, we're going to move on to item E2.
[9:17] E2 is a review and approval by roll call vote of the annual roll forward amendment to the
[9:24] fiscal year 27 through fiscal year 2031 transportation improvement program.
[9:31] What happens during this regular process, the Florida Department of Transportation sends us an annual role for the amendment to incorporate anything that needs to be funded and reflected in our 27 to 31 that didn't get committed in the prior year.
[9:51] So, the amendment ensures that year 1 fiscal 27, that was adopted by the MPO Board on June 4th, and effect.
[10:00] About October 1 is consistent with FDOT's work programs, important. So these are the projects. There are listed here in your memorandum in your pocket. They encompass the transit categories, bringing forward remaining funds into 27. They also, um, and for both citrus and hernanda counties. This is a typical roll board amendment for this type of process.
[10:28] And it also includes a miscellaneous project for Crystal River.
[10:34] They have a headquarters bypass road that they've been placing in the work program.
[10:42] That funding is being brought forward into 27 in the amount of 845,344 dollars.
[10:50] So it is recommended that the MPL War Review, receipt public input, and approved by a
[10:56] call vote, the annual roll forward amendment to the transportation improvement program for fiscal
[11:02] years 27 through fiscal year 31 as presented and authorized the chair's signature upon the
[11:08] attached letter from the Florida Department of Transportation. Thank you, Mary. We have anyone from
[11:15] the public who'd like to speak on this.
[11:21] Anyone from the public? Okay, so those public comment
[11:24] come back to the board. I'll be first to be looking for a motion in a second and then it will be a roll call.
[11:29] I have a discussion. That's fine. I have a question on the issue that we brought up at the last board meeting of that bridge. Would that be listed on here?
[11:43] No, that that is a maintenance issue. The as far as I understand the Florida Department of Transportation is going to whitewash
[11:51] The columns that are on the Good Neighbor Trail Bridge, which I believe that's what you're referring to.
[11:57] It is. That would not be a listed item in the work program for this type of project.
[12:06] Well, I don't want to take up the board's time on if this isn't the proper time, but I would just like sometime today to find out what their processes and what they plan on doing to stop it from the standing that it's doing for the future.
[12:21] Okay. We know problem. We will contact Florida Department of Transportation. They are here taking notes, but we will gather back with them and find out a timeline of which activities can occur to rectify the issue and prevent it from future happenings.
[12:39] Thank you so much.
[12:42] Maybe a question for a commissioner base.
[12:46] Is any part of this the transit system?
[12:49] Yes, so the transit system first citrus from your county, the projects are listed on the first three on the first page of your memorandum in the packet.
[13:03] They're bringing forward, and this is typical, Section 5307 operating and administration assistance to the tune of 18 million, 690,000, 330 dollars.
[13:18] They're also reflecting Section 5307 capital formula funds for operations, and that was actually what those funds were.
[13:30] There were lapsing funds, residual funds from years past, so they recognized that and they
[13:36] are bringing that forward into 27 in the amount of $712,014, their residual funds that
[13:43] they did not want them to lapse.
[13:46] So in order for that to occur, they brought them forth to the first year of our program.
[13:51] And then the last one for citrus was a bit section 5339, which is small urban capital for transit
[13:59] improvements section 53 39 is generally used for bus capital facilities including buses.
[14:07] So they had residual amounts of $401,595,000 to add to fiscal year 27 and what happens
[14:16] to that many.
[14:18] It's your transit operators and your agencies, your for your county join.
[14:24] and she's a very familiar with this so many
[14:26] and is using it to apply for the applications
[14:30] under those specialized programs.
[14:33] So the the 401,000 can be used for what?
[14:38] That's 53,39 small urban capital.
[14:41] So capital related bus purchases and facilities.
[14:50] And then the 712,000 that can be used for what?
[14:54] That's also a capital formula based activity, but they're using it.
[15:00] For operations, I understand that your transit director is already earmarked those funds. That they'll be used toward operating activities.
[15:10] They can be used for contract services. They can be used for expanding hours. I'm sorry, use for expanding hours of operation.
[15:20] whatever the act operating activities are, they are eligible to be used for. So yes, because
[15:30] your operations money, it can be fuel, it can be so fuel is a part of expanding your service,
[15:38] if you're expanding, you're going to have additional fuel costs, they can be used for all of that.
[15:43] I do not know specifically I just what your transit director's earmarked them for off-hand,
[15:50] but they are aware of it and they will utilize it in their operating activities.
[15:59] I know that this has had a great deal of discussion amongst this board and I'm sure even in our
[16:05] Board of County commissioners, but so I want to go on the record today because this will probably
[16:10] my last opportunity to say it. I'm not against transit services. The problem is is that
[16:18] if you look at our state as a whole, 54% in excess of 54% of our households are Alice households.
[16:28] We have a great deal of people that are living at a below poverty. We're operating our transit
[16:34] services on an eight to five one day through Friday. That's not helping.
[16:38] Such as counties on employment rate is almost seven percent now.
[16:42] It's one of the highest in the state.
[16:45] These people, they're not working regular eight to five jobs.
[16:49] And we've got people now moving because rent is cheaper outside the service area.
[16:54] So we're they're moving further out in the transportation cost is more expensive.
[16:59] there's no way to find a middle ground for this and the amount of money that we keep taking
[17:05] and I know it's federal and so we can't just shut it down because we'd have to pay this back.
[17:11] But as board members that in here, and this is something that I think needs, this needs to have
[17:17] a bigger discussion at some point because we're not helping our community. I mean, this is a lot of
[17:23] money that's coming in and it just can't operate like a traditional business. These people are working
[17:28] at Walmart and public, grocery stores, McDonald's, they need to be able to get to work. And if
[17:35] we're going to change their trajectory of the people that are out of work or under employed,
[17:40] this is the one mechanism that helps them do that. And I think there's a lot of money being spent
[17:46] on it, but I don't think it's being spent effectively. Okay. So I understand everything you told me.
[17:53] and there are, I know it's not your problem
[17:55] it's a county problem.
[17:57] Well, you know, MPO serves both communities
[18:00] and the MPO is very engaged in what happens.
[18:04] And one of the things that was recently completed
[18:07] was the transit development plan.
[18:09] That's a five-year plan.
[18:11] And every year, there's annual progress report
[18:13] that has to be done on that plan.
[18:16] And that is the time that it opens back up
[18:20] to give thought to what your community needs are for your transit system.
[18:26] So that will happen is coming up. The deadline is March 1st for all transit systems to do these
[18:33] annual progress reports to the Florida Department of Transportation. That will open the conversation
[18:40] because that item has to go before the Citrus County Board of County Commissioners.
[18:45] making metropolitan areas have it figured out. It sees rural outliers and these
[18:49] rural outliers is where people are moving that we're experiencing under-employed
[18:56] unemployment and there's a great deal of money being spent but it's I find it to be
[19:01] ineffective and I've had these conversations at the local level but that's my two cents.
[19:07] acknowledge and understood, and these are the, these are the times for things like this are actually brought forth to light again.
[19:15] So, yes, the report is forthcoming for your annual progress report from your agency or transit agency.
[19:23] And that'll, like I said, that'll open up the discussion process again on how best to serve your community with your transit system.
[19:32] Thank you.
[19:33] And I appreciate the conversation, you know, the challenge is, you know, and this is why it works in more urbanized areas is because services are provided in urbanized areas, not rural areas.
[19:47] And they can never be, they're already not financially feasible, right? Every, every, every transit system is basically as subsidized.
[19:56] But the more rural the population goes, the less likely organic.
[20:00] And it urbanized services. And that's the challenge. I mean, that's for many people. That's why they live in more rural areas.
[20:08] You know, it says they don't want to deal with the urbanization and the part, you know, the bus stops and things like that in those areas. So it's going to be, it's definitely going to be a challenge as we move forward and see how we make these services is financially feasible.
[20:23] to the taxpayer as well to those who want to use the services.
[20:26] Is there anybody else who wants to speak on this?
[20:31] If not, I'm still needing a motion in the second before we can have a rule call.
[20:39] Motion by Councilman Meeks.
[20:43] Second by Councilman Halal.
[20:46] This is a rule call.
[20:48] Please call the rule.
[21:04] Aye.
[21:07] Aye.
[21:09] Aye.
[21:10] Aye.
[21:11] Aye.
[21:11] Thank
[21:17] you.
[21:19] We're moving on to item
[21:21] The re-appointment of
[21:23] Remember to the
[21:26] Sanfio citizen advisory committee.
[21:31] Bob, can we take over?
[21:33] Thank you, Chair.
[21:36] We have a re-appointment of
[21:37] Members to the Hernandez
[21:38] Sanfio citizen advisory committee.
[21:50] Sorry about that.
[21:54] We have a current
[21:55] Member Jim Reynolds serves on the
[21:57] and his term expired on July 31st, 2026.
[22:01] Mr. Reynolds has applied for reappointment
[22:03] to the CAC as a citizen representative
[22:05] of Citrus County unincorporated.
[22:07] The application is attached for review by the board.
[22:10] Mr. Reynolds has a very good attendance record at the CAC meetings.
[22:14] It is recommended that the Hernandez Citrus MPO board reappoint
[22:17] Jim Reynolds to serve on the citizens advisory
[22:19] as representative of Citrus County.
[22:23] Okay, so we're looking for a motion ideally for our citrus count process motion to have for a second.
[22:32] Second, okay, so we're motion, we're making a second to count some of the meat.
[22:37] All in the paper, signify by saying aye.
[22:41] Aye.
[22:42] Any opposed.
[22:44] Seven zero passes.
[22:46] Moving on to item four.
[22:48] Another, this is a appointment of a new member, do the C8 tip.
[22:52] Thank you, Chair.
[22:55] We have a Mr. John Schart has submitted an application to fill the vacant Hernando County
[23:02] on Incorporated Position.
[23:04] The application is attached for board review by the board.
[23:08] It is recommended that the Hernandez Citrus MPO board appoint John Schart to serve
[23:12] on the Citizens Advisory Committee in Hernando County.
[23:15] An incorporated for a period of two years
[23:17] which would be September 3rd, 2026 through September 2nd, 2028, need a motion.
[23:25] Mr. Chairman?
[23:26] Yes, sir.
[23:27] First, I'd like to take the opportunity to thank Steve Hammond for serving in this capacity
[23:34] up until now.
[23:35] I know he said to resign, do some work related travel.
[23:39] But I'd make the motion to approve Mr. Sarge, a reviewed his application.
[23:44] He served in several volunteer capacities in the past while once on the planning and zoning for for 10 years
[23:52] And so I want to thank him for stepping up to the plate and I make a motion to approve him. Thank you
[23:59] Your second
[24:01] Commissioner Amplers are second
[24:05] All the paper taken by the same like I
[24:08] Any opposed
[24:09] to pass it unanimously.
[24:12] Thank you for the rain, congratulations to both members.
[24:16] Going on to, uh, or like the citizens comments.
[24:21] We only need to come up from the public who would like to speak today.
[24:27] If you can all just, I don't know.
[24:29] Not all of what.
[24:30] Seeing that we have for no citizens or ready for citizens comments.
[24:36] We'll close the citizens comments.
[24:37] We'll come back to item G, which is our MPO director comments.
[24:41] Thank you, Chair.
[24:41] A couple updates, the MPS staff participated in the Florida Mitch Pals and Pining meeting on Wednesday, July 29th,
[24:49] 2026.
[24:50] The next day I went back to Orlando for the MPOAC, which is the advisory council meeting.
[24:57] The fully executed transportation disadvantage planning.
[25:00] Grant agreements were received August 12, 2026, from the Florida Commission for the Transportation Disadvantaged
[25:07] and entered into the record. For email on August 11, 2026, following a review with the team,
[25:16] the Florida-turned-pike enterprise has indicated that the interchange study at the San Carlos Parkway
[25:21] and Centralia should be completed by September 30 of this year. They will prepare a presentation of
[25:29] MPO upon completion, the Hernando County procurement department, exercise the option of the general planning consultants, as mentioned earlier, and they will expire in December of 2028.
[25:42] Work continues on advancing small projects.
[25:44] We are currently coordinating with FD-18, Hernando County secure funding for US-41 in the Lakelands roundabout.
[25:51] Hernando County has indicated they can contribute approximately $1 million which would help
[25:56] expedite this much-needed project in addition efforts continue on the list of Citrus County
[26:01] projects. The county line road letter of understanding LOU will be presented to the Pasco County
[26:09] Board of County Commissioners on October 22nd, 2026 so that should finalize everything to keep
[26:15] county line road moving forward and you have my evaluation has been provided. Hopefully I did well.
[26:24] Thank you. Reminder local municipalities should receive email notifications from FDOT as projects enter the design phase.
[26:34] This is the time that we need to ask for our asks. And again, it's the given example of Arizona.
[26:41] They're putting it in a right turn lane on their dime at that with the resurfacing of the U.S. 41
[26:47] So we're gonna do a better job of communicating with FTAT and make sure that we're in the early stages
[26:54] So we can make make those ask once they get to a hundred percent design. It's too late. So
[27:01] And then just one other thing that Mary suggests that I mentioned
[27:05] Munden Hill Road is scheduled to be closed at US-98 state road 50 from 11 p.m. Wednesday, September 9th,
[27:14] to 5 a.m. Monday, September 14th for concrete paving work at the intersection.
[27:19] The same closure is also scheduled for 11 p.m. Wednesday, September 16th, 5 a.m. to Monday, September 21st.
[27:27] Will it be access for local traffic or what's the plan for that?
[27:35] Yeah, I'll let Mayor Anne to that.
[27:41] It's a normally maps and associated information is issued by the Hernandez County Public Information Office,
[27:49] and you'll get those some announcement that will come from the Public Works Department,
[27:54] because they are coordinating with the FDOT.
[27:58] There are alternate routes around the area to get bypassed the actual intersection using WPA,
[28:07] road using Olympia, using the back roads, the ones through whirling acres and
[28:15] hill and Dale and such to bypass that intersection so they can get the needed improvements done.
[28:20] Okay, thank you. And before I go to the board for comments, Bob, I have one more for you.
[28:27] But we have presentations next meeting.
[28:31] Yeah, they're work program and probably our next meeting will be in December. Okay.
[28:36] We can definitely make sure we have just some updates to keep us from our member organizations that we fantastic.
[28:45] All right, board.
[28:47] We have any comments.
[28:48] We'll start to my right.
[28:55] Councilman.
[28:56] And I'm serving the deal.
[28:59] Likewise.
[29:02] I'm sorry.
[29:03] All right.
[29:03] Well, I'd like to thank commissioners days and Campbell for their service on this board.
[29:08] It has been, it's been very nice working with both of you.
[29:13] Obviously, I worked more frequently with Commissioner Campbell, but I've always had a good
[29:17] working relationship with you, Commissioner Baze, and I wish you both happiness not having
[29:23] to deal with some of the things that we do, but each of us will continue to deal with, and
[29:27] I appreciate your service, and I'm sure everybody else in the community that's paying attention
[29:31] to these meetings does.
[29:38] Let me just open this up for discussion. In our city, of course we have the rails or trails that runs right through the middle of it.
[29:46] We are an experiencing an inordinate amount of abuse of electric bikes.
[29:52] I don't know if this is affecting some of the other areas, but my question would be, is there any funding through this?
[30:00] Day to get some public awareness, because the problem is the parents do not know whether the rules and regulations are for these kids that are buying e-bikes and they don't know the rules of the road.
[30:10] They don't know their supposed to stop at stop signs. They don't know that they're supposed to yield to other vehicles.
[30:16] Some of the stuff and if it doesn't have pedals, it's a motorcycle. They don't have a license. It's getting more and more out of hand and we're seeing it on our state highways, too, that these bikes are running against traffic in a pedestrian.
[30:29] inside. How do we address that from a public awareness thing, maybe some funding that goes out,
[30:36] so that people understand, here's the rules and regulations. If you're going to have an e-bike,
[30:41] this is what you have to adhere to. I'm looking at FTO10, apparently. It doesn't seem to be.
[30:47] Let me just came back from the League of Cities Convention. It's a dress list.
[30:51] There was legislation that was passed in vetoed.
[30:55] Okay. So the legislature has tried to do things to address this and I think you're being
[31:02] kind when you say that they don't understand the rules. I think frankly they don't care.
[31:08] And that makes it very difficult on our deputies, our police officers in the cities because
[31:14] they're having to deal with the aftermath of the situation and it's unfortunately it's
[31:21] going to end up in some deaths because of this, it's I see it every day, I see people posting
[31:26] on social media about it in the end.
[31:29] As a parent, you're responsible for your children, and if you buy them a basically and electrically
[31:34] powered bike and they drive it the wrong way, you're responsible for it.
[31:38] I think that's what's going to come down to.
[31:40] It's going to be some fines, and there's going to be some lawsuits.
[31:43] It's unfortunate.
[31:44] And the kids, unfortunately, are going to be the ones who are going to be the pawns
[31:49] the situation, because they're going to be ones that are hood ornaments. You went. I had.
[31:54] No, I'm not addressing what didn't get legislated through. When I'm addressing or just what's
[31:59] already at all, otherwise they aren't. No, they are. They're on the books now. If it's a certain
[32:04] size mug, they have to be over 16 to write it. They have to have a helmet 16 and under. If it doesn't
[32:11] have pedals, it's a licensed motorcycle. They got to have a license on this is a law. And we're just
[32:17] not getting it in force. And you clarify that because unless I'm mistaken, the law has to do with the CCs. And there's no CCs on it's on battery. It's a wattage of the electric motor. Okay. Go ahead.
[32:29] Susie and Ziggler government liaison for D7. I wish that I could speak to what the requirements are based on
[32:38] roadways and age and motors and all that, I am not up to date on that. I do know that the legislation like you said perfectly everything that you said was what I was coming to say but I do we do agree with what you're saying it's also an enforcement issue as well because who's the one that needs to enforce that.
[33:00] So I think moving forward, I agree personally,
[33:05] if your kid has one, my kid, not gonna have one.
[33:09] There's an education, I can reach out to our PIO office
[33:13] to see if we have anything in regards to that
[33:16] or if we're allowed to put something like that together.
[33:20] I believe we haven't done anything on that.
[33:22] We're still working on educating people,
[33:25] where bicycles, when they have their bicycle to wear their helmet
[33:29] doing fittings with children and stuff like that. We recognize the need and we were
[33:33] hoping that you know that the legislation would kind of step in and help us on that as well.
[33:39] Well with our interaction with parents and we've done some stuff with the parents stuff because it
[33:43] is a problem with them. Most of them do not understand that if it's faster than 20 miles an hour
[33:48] that they have to be over 16 to write it and that they have to have a helmet 16 under and if it doesn't
[33:53] have the pedals, they've got to have a license. Most of them, and it's not that they're ignoring it,
[33:59] they just don't know. The media out there through Facebook and everybody else, you can buy
[34:04] these things cheap, and they just buy them one. I don't disagree with that. What I'm saying is
[34:10] if you know if you have a child that's moving on an object that does over 20 miles an hour,
[34:17] and they hit the front of a car, it doesn't matter if they have a helmet or anything on, and that's
[34:21] what I'm getting at is that clearly we know that they're dangerous and they're driving around cars and
[34:27] factory trails. It's like the bicycles. Do they have a right to the road? Yeah, but you know, be careful
[34:33] because physics is going to work against you every time and those are the challenges we're going to
[34:37] work with. It's it's it's it's it's it's it's unfortunate because there's going to be a lot of injuries
[34:43] that happen and potentially deaths before people remember that physics exists whether you like it or not.
[34:50] Do we have anything from any of the other important members on this because it is a problem?
[34:54] There's no doubt about it.
[34:55] But like I said, I thought I would let you sleep, sure, did a good job of presenting some hop.
[35:00] Solutions. Unfortunately, they didn't make it into law. So we'll see what happens this next election cycle. I mean, legislative cycle. But I hear you. I think, you know, we have, we don't necessarily participate with the, with the, what is it called? Project zero or vision zero. Yeah, but there are some, potentially some, some education dollars that could be, that could be, maybe this next cycle that could be used to address.
[35:30] this. Do we have safe money that we could do this kind of stuff?
[35:37] We were using it for other
[35:38] things so we had to have to approve those in the next right in the next cycle but I mean it was
[35:45] definitely great money and we talked about using it had to do some of the work that being used for
[35:49] D for DUI some of them were to do motorcycle awareness so it should be able to at some point.
[35:55] So Suzanne's a glared government liaison from D7 again in regards to what Bob was saying,
[36:02] I don't know UPWP-Ys if you have money set aside for education or anything like that.
[36:08] And once you could move forward with getting this kind of education, you probably do
[36:15] Mary, if you do Mary absolutely knows. And so I would suggest that we also do have
[36:21] have a couple of resources in regards to safe kids and we can get you guys the information
[36:32] for safe kids. They go around. It's the Sanco Safe Kids and they partner with us and
[36:38] they go into the schools and do a lot of education and make it fun. They do helmet fittings
[36:43] and stuff like that. So the schools really have to request it. I have the contacts name and
[36:49] I'm happy to provide that to the MPO and maybe there's some, you know, events that we can attend.
[36:54] Safety outreach wise, so I can also provide our safety outreach team to information to the MPO as well.
[37:01] See what we can get going.
[37:02] Maybe a good place to start when they're doing the bicycle safety and the schools and stuff like that.
[37:06] Yeah, no, we just talked about this morning and it is really awesome what they're doing.
[37:11] And that's really how we're able to get into the schools and have that interaction.
[37:17] and so they're scheduling that as we speak and they kind of go by county and hit a couple
[37:22] schools in one day and give the presentation. So I will speak with Tina Russo on our team
[37:28] and she would does the D7 outreach and then I can also forward San Jose schools contact
[37:35] her name is Sheila and then you know the MPO or if the county whoever would like to contact them
[37:41] kind of coordinate going forward. We're happy to, you know, partner up on that kind of stuff.
[37:46] Excellent. And one of the other challenges, sir, is that the wattage can be manipulated so
[37:52] easily with these bikes now. And that's, you know, it's like, it's like you have a motorcycle going
[37:59] down the street that says it's a 600 in reality. You got an 1100, right? But you know, all the stickers
[38:05] on are going to say it's one thing. And then you'll find out that they've manipulated because it's
[38:10] matter of plugging in a few more battery pack. It's not hard. I'm telling you it's these electric
[38:17] motors, especially at those levels are pretty easy for them to mess with. You can find
[38:23] almost everything on YouTube on how to mess with them now. It's pretty crazy. I appreciate it.
[38:29] Maybe locally we can do some signage on some of the streets of the most challenging with maybe
[38:34] posting of some of the rules or the, you know, that, you know, might be something that just
[38:39] catches someone's attention, and then they go and do a little research on their own.
[38:45] We, I mean, we're not just dealing with the electric bikes, as all the members know we have, we have
[38:52] ATVs, UTVs, you name it on the roads, electric scooters that are flying up and down the roads.
[38:59] It's becoming really challenging and it's frustrating if you're driving a motor vehicle and
[39:04] and you're insured, and then you potentially have your car severely damaged by a vehicle that doesn't have insurance.
[39:15] Anything else?
[39:17] Again, thanks again, the commissioner's base and Campbell, if nobody else has anything to say, this meeting is adjourned.
[39:25] Thank you.
[39:28] Great.
[39:34] Thank you.
[39:34] Thank you.
[39:35] I know it's the one.
[39:36] I think I've got it.
[39:38] It's a good change.
[39:39] Eventually it'll be decent.
[39:40] That's it.
[39:41] Yeah.
[39:42] That's it.
[39:43] All right.