1 00:00:00,050 --> 00:00:04,630 The waiting room, one second? Perfect. You're always looking out for it, yeah. 2 00:00:04,750 --> 00:00:12,930 Recording in progress. Okay, good evening, late afternoon, whatever you like to call it. My call to order 3 00:00:12,930 --> 00:00:17,170 the regular meeting of the City Council of the City of Hayden Hills for Monday, September 4 00:00:17,170 --> 00:00:23,990 14th, 2026. For members of the public participating being a Zoom, to experience a technical 5 00:00:23,990 --> 00:00:32,070 difficult. Please contact City Hall at 888889281. Please rise for the Pledge of Allegiance. 6 00:01:00,110 --> 00:01:04,190 City Clerk Gonzalez, may we please have the roll call. 7 00:01:04,970 --> 00:01:05,990 Yes, Council Member Weber. 8 00:01:06,910 --> 00:01:13,670 Reson council member McCorkan Dale is absent tonight. Council member Gold here mayor 9 00:01:13,670 --> 00:01:17,250 Potem Seagull here and mayor Loja here 10 00:01:18,830 --> 00:01:23,840 Before we continue. Do we need to have a vote to excuse council member before you know 11 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:28,180 Okay 12 00:01:28,180 --> 00:01:34,720 Do you know you call for a vote for the excuse council member before you know yes, of course council member Weber 13 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:38,780 Yes, council member Gold. Yes mayor Potem Seagull 14 00:01:41,980 --> 00:01:57,580 Okay, before we move on into the agenda, if there's no objections from the council, I'd like to move a portion of item 10 under staff comments to up now, rather than wait till the end of the evening. 15 00:01:57,580 --> 00:01:58,500 Any objections? 16 00:01:58,880 --> 00:01:59,880 No problem. 17 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:01,360 Okay. 18 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:08,220 With that, I'd like to introduce Sunny Sultani from Alshaira Weidenar, our special counsel 19 00:02:08,220 --> 00:02:11,880 who has part of the staff comments, who will be providing a personal opinion saying. 20 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:15,380 Thank you. 21 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,220 Honorable Mayor, members of the council, members of the public. 22 00:02:19,820 --> 00:02:29,120 I am reporting that former city manager, Gloria Molata, is no longer with the city and there 23 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:34,760 has been a voluntary separation as a Friday, 28, 20, 20, 6. 24 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:42,300 And because this is a personnel matter, that is all I can say about it. 25 00:02:45,310 --> 00:02:45,590 Okay. 26 00:02:45,890 --> 00:02:47,010 Thank you very much. 27 00:02:49,230 --> 00:02:53,610 Now if the council was fine with it, I'm going to return to the regular order of the agenda. 28 00:02:54,950 --> 00:02:55,750 I'm going to do my duty. 29 00:02:57,720 --> 00:02:59,900 I'm going to do staff comments, public comment at the end. 30 00:02:59,900 --> 00:03:00,760 We just wanted that. 31 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:01,160 I started. 32 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:01,900 Okay. 33 00:03:01,900 --> 00:03:03,740 So that it would be announced and done. 34 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:07,540 You're okay with that right, Lauren. 35 00:03:10,730 --> 00:03:15,310 Okay, also present this evening are the following members of City staff, Assistant City Manager, 36 00:03:16,410 --> 00:03:23,010 Acting City Manager Amber Servan, City Attorney Lauren Langer, City Clerk, Dina Gonzalez, City Engineer, 37 00:03:23,230 --> 00:03:29,310 Michael Akerman, Administrative Assistant, Sarah Porter, Emergency Services Coordinator, Nick Salbedar, 38 00:03:29,310 --> 00:03:37,450 You are all already got to hear from Sunning, Saltini from all of our Weiner and we have an extended team from trans tech today 39 00:03:37,450 --> 00:03:44,610 And I'm going to wait and let them all introduce themselves and we have a long agenda and we want to serve. We want to keep moving things to 40 00:03:44,610 --> 00:03:53,470 We will begin tonight with I am 3A the Los Angeles County Fire Department report for July and August Chief Assistant Chief Drew Smith is here 41 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:00,160 Thank you 42 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:01,820 That's why we love hidden health. 43 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,100 So we're proud to be your fire department. 44 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:06,760 So thank you for all the support. 45 00:04:08,380 --> 00:04:10,580 And it really reflects on when we're interacting 46 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:14,320 in the community with the public and it's wonderful. 47 00:04:14,780 --> 00:04:16,740 So your jurisdictional fire station everybody 48 00:04:16,740 --> 00:04:20,620 that comes through really appreciate the support 49 00:04:20,620 --> 00:04:21,480 from your city. 50 00:04:22,420 --> 00:04:24,360 So I didn't see anything out of the ordinary 51 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:25,780 for July and August. 52 00:04:26,420 --> 00:04:28,920 Actually, what was out of the ordinary was July 53 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:34,100 is the responses were actually down to seven, which is meaning it was either way too hot 54 00:04:34,100 --> 00:04:41,240 or people are out of town. So we only had several responses that I saw and four of them, 55 00:04:41,380 --> 00:04:48,480 which were medical responses and they could intend non-emergency calls, which I like having 56 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:57,160 those higher. And the reason I say that on those non-emergency calls is we like to go out and evaluate 57 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,120 what the need is, so that's what I really like. 58 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:05,320 Those calls that come and come in, not being emergency, but that means people are out paying attention 59 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:11,200 and they see something they call. For August, a total of 16 responses, so that's right in the time, 60 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:19,260 Primal, or what we look at, monthly is somewhere between 9 and 15-ish just depends on, you know, 61 00:05:19,300 --> 00:05:25,480 what their nature throws our way with the heat or whether it be rain or how it is, so I didn't see anything. 62 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:32,840 But the one thing that was glaring, which was UD, was zero snake calls for July and August. 63 00:05:33,180 --> 00:05:34,280 And that was UD to me. 64 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:39,640 We started out with everybody having them earlier in the spring and early summer, but 65 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:43,040 zero is we went into July and August. 66 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,720 So, hopefully those will continue to decline, because usually, 67 00:05:48,860 --> 00:05:53,440 may through August's our highest month, so we start tapering down as we get in September 68 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:56,960 and October as we get in the fall. 69 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:01,080 So I'll give an update on where we're at as far as the organization. 70 00:06:01,840 --> 00:06:07,060 As you know that we're in the last couple weeks of summer we're going to be headed into fall 71 00:06:07,060 --> 00:06:14,500 which we know is there is a prime wild fire season and it's a wind dependent fire regime out here. 72 00:06:14,620 --> 00:06:18,600 So we know that mother nature does focus those sand and winds on us. 73 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:24,060 On average, in a year, we'll get anywhere between five and eight red flag events, which happen 74 00:06:24,060 --> 00:06:27,900 usually between October 1st and my first measuring stick is Halloween. 75 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:34,060 Second one is Thanksgiving, and then the third one is Christmas, as we see within that window, 76 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:40,180 routinely is when we get our significant east-wind events. And with that being said, 77 00:06:40,220 --> 00:06:47,580 you can have the same outcome on a hot, dry windy or just dry windy as we know that there's a big 78 00:06:47,580 --> 00:06:51,700 focus on the PDS, particularly dangerous situation. 79 00:06:52,740 --> 00:06:57,380 You can have the same fire effects on a red flag day 80 00:06:57,380 --> 00:06:58,860 as you can a PDS day. 81 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:03,320 So just because you have a PDS does not mean 82 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:08,740 that the fire is going to be more rapid, more growth, 83 00:07:08,940 --> 00:07:09,820 or more intense. 84 00:07:09,980 --> 00:07:12,400 You can have those same effects on a red flag day. 85 00:07:12,580 --> 00:07:16,280 So what I don't want is people do be sensitized 86 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:21,120 the point to where, well, it's not a PDF, so it's just a red flag, and it's not that bad. 87 00:07:21,740 --> 00:07:24,340 When it's a red flag, that means that we have vulnerabilities. 88 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:29,240 And that is when our live people, moisters, are at its lowest, or the driest. 89 00:07:29,980 --> 00:07:36,580 And the wind is at its strongest, in the relative humidities, really drive a lot of what happens 90 00:07:36,580 --> 00:07:38,780 in the absence of precipitation. 91 00:07:38,780 --> 00:07:46,800 In the S, we did get on average an inch of rain over this last monsoonal flow that we had, 92 00:07:47,100 --> 00:07:53,100 but truthfully that doesn't really suppress or damper what we have going into in the fall. 93 00:07:53,580 --> 00:07:58,480 I put it this way. It took the dust off all the plants that are out there. 94 00:07:59,340 --> 00:08:05,740 The vegetation is very responsive to change, and that change happens daily, but on a forecast 95 00:08:05,740 --> 00:08:11,880 where we look and identify with the area, I don't think anybody is unaware that we're going 96 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:16,500 into a red flag or we're going to have high winds, so we need to have that preparedness. 97 00:08:16,980 --> 00:08:22,580 And so I appreciate all of our cities out here, the collaboration we have in the communication 98 00:08:22,580 --> 00:08:27,200 we have and just remember any of that information that's going to go out, it's going to come 99 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:32,620 from your favorite making career who's going to give us the message in what happens. 100 00:08:32,620 --> 00:08:45,820 The coordination with your agencies for your city ahead and hills is with Los Angeles County Fire Department, which has a direct protection agreement for hidden hills, also a venture county fire and also Los Angeles City fire department. 101 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:54,420 Any time that there is a fire that is reported, you get our three agencies on a automatic response to the area. 102 00:08:54,420 --> 00:08:58,700 So that goes all the way from here to the 1-18 freeway. 103 00:08:58,740 --> 00:09:03,480 It goes from here on the other side of the freeway through Calapassus, along Mowholm, into 104 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:04,280 Pangecaine. 105 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,760 He get all the agencies there on initial attack response. 106 00:09:07,940 --> 00:09:09,720 We don't wait to call and ask for help. 107 00:09:09,940 --> 00:09:16,440 That's an immediate initial response that you get, which is an excess of about 51 pieces of equipment, 108 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,400 with a total of six aircraft. 109 00:09:19,740 --> 00:09:21,340 So nowhere else is that happening anywhere. 110 00:09:21,340 --> 00:09:29,220 So, I just want to give you a highlight on what this fall is looking like and that is that 111 00:09:29,220 --> 00:09:35,960 for on average to have that potential for those red flag events until Mother Nature gives us 112 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:43,640 two inches or more of rain that doesn't make it that fire season and over what it does 113 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:48,000 is it actually moistens those fuels and when we start to see that we have green up and those 114 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:55,520 new grasses that helps with the receptive fuel bed of a fire star. So the effects can be less 115 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:59,980 than but still challenging if there was no rain. So that's the first thing we look at as 116 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:07,000 We've got two measurable inches of rain in that. We really look at that when it happens between October and December. 117 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:11,660 So with that, is there any questions from my wonderful city council? 118 00:10:12,300 --> 00:10:12,900 Yeah, 119 00:10:14,980 --> 00:10:22,400 pool hydrants, pool hydrants, it's not a requirement of the fire department, do you 120 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:24,020 what's their position on that sense? 121 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:28,620 So, depends on, not every pool hydrant is treated the same. 122 00:10:29,220 --> 00:10:35,020 So, meaning just because there's a hydrant, it depends on how that water is supplied. 123 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:39,580 So, meaning our domestic water that we have through here on their fire hydrants are under pressure. 124 00:10:39,580 --> 00:10:47,140 And in this area, they'll deliver anywhere between 70 and 140 pounds of pressure and we can hook up those and it comes with volume. 125 00:10:48,020 --> 00:10:55,440 And a pool, depending on its size, depending on its location, it is gravity fed or we have to what it is draft from it. 126 00:10:55,660 --> 00:10:59,200 So we use special hoses that are what we call hard suction. 127 00:10:59,860 --> 00:11:06,020 So we can't use a regular hose because it will collapse, so we have to hook up to that and pull that water from the pool. 128 00:11:06,020 --> 00:11:17,200 So when we do have people that put in pools and have a fire department connection and has to be at the right size and type, because we use a national standard host threat. 129 00:11:17,860 --> 00:11:22,700 So we have other appliances that we could get into that. 130 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:35,980 So we do support that we think it is a great value if it's identified if we have people that are doing any modifications or pool, they can allow us to have fire department accesses in a place that we can get our fire truck. 131 00:11:35,980 --> 00:11:39,720 that and use that within a 20-foot reach. 132 00:11:39,900 --> 00:11:42,080 So that's why hydrants are placed where they are. 133 00:11:42,260 --> 00:11:47,000 And also the fire department connection for a pool system 134 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:51,860 or draft hydrant is favorable that is within a 20-foot piece. 135 00:11:51,940 --> 00:11:56,100 Because we don't have, we have a lot of regular hose. 136 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:59,840 We get a lot of length out of our engines, 137 00:12:00,060 --> 00:12:03,160 but on those hard sections, there are only in 20-foot pieces. 138 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:08,240 that's why they need to be 20 feet within the streets so we can access that. 139 00:12:08,680 --> 00:12:12,360 But we do favor hydrants that are hooked up to pools. 140 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:13,980 Okay, thank you. 141 00:12:14,860 --> 00:12:15,720 That was it? 142 00:12:16,180 --> 00:12:17,260 I have a question. 143 00:12:17,540 --> 00:12:18,080 Yes, sir. 144 00:12:19,220 --> 00:12:23,220 If I'm correctly reading the weather projections, 145 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:27,480 there's a potential force that's significant amount of range 146 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:28,780 between now and the end of the year. 147 00:12:28,780 --> 00:12:35,680 anything we should be doing different in terms of emergency preparation, and any coordination 148 00:12:35,680 --> 00:12:41,560 we should be doing with you given the fact that the rain events can cause as much damage 149 00:12:41,560 --> 00:12:42,080 sometimes. 150 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:43,120 Yes. 151 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:47,240 So, that's also going to come out for making on any preparedness. 152 00:12:47,560 --> 00:12:53,780 So we have, if we know that we have a storm, a storm could be at east-wing event. 153 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:57,280 We have that preparedness, so we know that we may transition into a red light day, but 154 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:02,500 will also have measurable precipitation that is going to put us in a certain phase of a 155 00:13:02,500 --> 00:13:10,980 mud and debris flow. The good thing is the Wolsey Fire of 2018 has watershed down that 156 00:13:10,980 --> 00:13:20,140 is different than it was in 2019, 2020, and so on, because as those fuels mature, the soil 157 00:13:20,140 --> 00:13:25,220 disturbance from the rain is actually collected different because of the vegetation that's 158 00:13:25,220 --> 00:13:31,680 there. However, we still do identify with our public works partners on what the forecast is 159 00:13:31,680 --> 00:13:37,420 with our national weather service partners. So yes, there's always the potential regardless 160 00:13:37,420 --> 00:13:41,180 if you have a burn scar or not that we have to have that preparedness. So looking at our homeowners 161 00:13:41,180 --> 00:13:48,540 who they can make sure if you have just like we clean out our rain gutters for debris because of fires, 162 00:13:48,680 --> 00:13:53,400 we need to save thanks so your water can flow through those gutters system because it can't compromise 163 00:13:53,400 --> 00:14:00,520 a house you can have flooding issues. Also looking at any of the prevent any flooding that you have 164 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:05,500 so the landscaping makes sure that that water flows, the words supposed to flow. The preparedness 165 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:11,940 we have and we have that readiness that we look at that intelligence every day on what we do. 166 00:14:12,180 --> 00:14:17,280 And if there's any significance of that, we get that community out to all of our cities out here. 167 00:14:19,850 --> 00:14:25,850 just sort of switch back to the fires side of this. Typically we do rush clearance around 168 00:14:25,850 --> 00:14:32,630 the city within the city, you know, once a year that kind of made it July, June timeframe. 169 00:14:33,710 --> 00:14:39,790 This year as a council we decided to be, we decided to allocate enough funds to be able to 170 00:14:39,790 --> 00:14:45,990 do it multiple times. When should we be looking at an assessment to see if we need to actually 171 00:14:45,990 --> 00:14:47,470 We do question questions again. 172 00:14:48,090 --> 00:14:48,810 That's a great question. 173 00:14:49,210 --> 00:14:52,830 So just know that and we talked about this before. 174 00:14:52,970 --> 00:14:54,170 It's a timing on that. 175 00:14:54,510 --> 00:14:56,530 And how we want that brush clearance. 176 00:14:56,530 --> 00:14:59,270 We're told that the fence will space requirements to look. 177 00:14:59,730 --> 00:14:59,970 The number. 178 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:28,900 One contributor to fire to start and spread is grass. The grass has to be dry and receptive. If we get into our January, February, March, April would average rainfall, and we have all this green grass, we go, and it's whether it's weed whipped, whether it's mode, whether it's used goats, it could come back again because Mother Nature doesn't turn off. The sprinkler system usually till mid-April. 179 00:15:28,900 --> 00:15:45,320 So you could have a robust grass cutting endeavor and then you could be back doing it again in another month because the annual reign that we get, which is about 14 inches for the area. 180 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:48,180 So we have to time it to answer your question. 181 00:15:48,180 --> 00:15:52,940 I am a big fan of we look at going into why we do our 182 00:15:52,940 --> 00:15:58,400 defensive space inspections in May because as we know in April's when we usually 183 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:03,800 don't get precept Mother Nature starts putting us into a seasonal drought which is 184 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:10,760 normal because we don't get much rainfall after April 15th ish as we look into May 185 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:15,880 June July August September is the targeted time frame where we have to be most 186 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:22,380 prudent with any of the grasses that need to be modified or thinned or cut. 187 00:16:24,050 --> 00:16:30,690 The audience have any questions for Chief Smith and anybody on Zoom? 188 00:16:30,810 --> 00:16:32,030 No hands raised, Mayor. 189 00:16:32,270 --> 00:16:33,010 Thank you. 190 00:16:33,070 --> 00:16:34,310 We're everything you guys do. 191 00:16:34,730 --> 00:16:36,270 We are greatly appreciate it. 192 00:16:36,610 --> 00:16:36,970 All right. 193 00:16:37,090 --> 00:16:37,490 Thank you. 194 00:16:37,570 --> 00:16:37,730 Thank you. 195 00:16:43,470 --> 00:16:43,990 Okay. 196 00:16:44,110 --> 00:16:45,810 We will now move on to item 3v. 197 00:16:45,910 --> 00:16:48,890 The Los Angeles County Sheriff's Tribor reports for July and August. 198 00:16:48,890 --> 00:16:51,490 Deputy Brian Not will provide the report. 199 00:16:51,490 --> 00:16:52,430 I 200 00:16:55,570 --> 00:17:00,850 wanted to stand the innovation. That's fine. I'll just continue. 201 00:17:01,770 --> 00:17:06,390 Deputy Notte, I've been at the station 19 years. I'm leaving in January. I've 202 00:17:06,390 --> 00:17:11,050 served. Hidden Hills throughout all that time. It's been great. I love this 203 00:17:11,050 --> 00:17:16,730 community. Deputy Body is fantastic and he's on vacation and I'm filling 204 00:17:16,730 --> 00:17:21,250 in for him and he's back tomorrow and then you can give him all your complaints. 205 00:17:22,250 --> 00:17:26,210 He wrote me a nice little script and put on my glasses. 206 00:17:26,910 --> 00:17:36,470 It says, for July there was no where the crimes and for August 6th in the 24-800 207 00:17:36,470 --> 00:17:41,690 block of Long Valley, there was a person who was found squatting at a residence and using the 208 00:17:41,690 --> 00:17:43,210 caretaker's vehicle. 209 00:17:43,870 --> 00:17:47,950 He was arrested for burglary and taking the vehicle without the owner's consent. 210 00:17:47,950 --> 00:17:56,330 And as of September 3rd, the suspect was still in custody and his next hearing date was on the 16th. 211 00:17:56,830 --> 00:18:01,910 And we know about the situation with the e-bikes, I think, from yesterday. 212 00:18:02,730 --> 00:18:06,530 And I think Deputy Body is going to address that with Council when he gets back. 213 00:18:06,650 --> 00:18:08,610 I believe he's back here tomorrow. 214 00:18:09,310 --> 00:18:13,210 But he got calls in Hawaii, so he's working from there. 215 00:18:13,750 --> 00:18:18,110 And that is it, I'd like to say hi to my buddies over here. 216 00:18:19,010 --> 00:18:20,850 They are a great bunch of people. 217 00:18:21,050 --> 00:18:23,890 They really help us out also from our station level. 218 00:18:24,370 --> 00:18:25,970 So it's good to see you. 219 00:18:26,650 --> 00:18:29,690 And it's good to see all the fun faces, even Drew. 220 00:18:29,930 --> 00:18:30,610 I haven't seen Drew. 221 00:18:32,710 --> 00:18:33,670 Even Drew. 222 00:18:33,670 --> 00:18:34,950 Yeah, I haven't seen Drew. 223 00:18:35,170 --> 00:18:36,770 Drew and I used to do this all the time. 224 00:18:38,030 --> 00:18:38,670 So yeah. 225 00:18:40,210 --> 00:18:41,150 Any questions? 226 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:50,800 I'm 227 00:18:54,220 --> 00:18:59,760 not a weird one. I can find out. I can let you know, but that'd be Calvass's 228 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:00,420 Murrow, 229 00:19:02,660 --> 00:19:10,240 right at roundabout. I can find out. Okay. Last night. Okay, I'll find out. 230 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:14,900 Anybody else in the audience have questions for Deputy Not? How about anybody on Zoom? 231 00:19:14,900 --> 00:19:16,720 There are no hands-faced Mayor. 232 00:19:17,220 --> 00:19:17,980 Thank you very much, sir. 233 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:18,840 Thanks for your service. 234 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:19,840 Yeah, thank you, everybody. 235 00:19:19,980 --> 00:19:20,640 Good to see all of you. 236 00:19:20,660 --> 00:19:21,720 I'm going to go watch the Emmys. 237 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:26,200 Thank you. 238 00:19:28,630 --> 00:19:34,250 OK, we will now move on to item 3C, the public safety and emergency services report for July and August. 239 00:19:34,930 --> 00:19:38,070 Emergency services coordinator and next down the bar is going to make the presentation. 240 00:19:39,330 --> 00:19:39,730 Everybody? 241 00:19:41,510 --> 00:19:43,230 All right, we'll start with July. 242 00:19:43,970 --> 00:19:47,450 We had 57 citations issued in the month of July. 243 00:19:48,370 --> 00:19:53,310 the top sight was for failure to stop the stop sign. 244 00:19:54,890 --> 00:19:56,630 Yes, I wouldn't spend a heavy one. 245 00:19:56,670 --> 00:19:58,830 The 40 sights were issued for that one alone. 246 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:29,620 The other ones were texting while driving and using your cell phone while driving. For certain news, we had no, well, back up, we had no crimes that were noticeable, noticeable. Notable. During that month, however we did say goodbye to my grant, we had a nice send off for him, for certain, and thank you guys for coming out for that. For the month of August, we had 35 citations issued, again, 2644, failure stop to stop side. 247 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,800 We talked about the burglary that occurred. 248 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,280 That's being handled by Elink County Sheriff's Department. 249 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:37,320 He's just talked about. 250 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,880 And then we did have a certain meeting that month. 251 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,400 We were talking about how we can get more 252 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,640 convening community engagement from 253 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,400 Sirt and have more people in the community join us. 254 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,240 So we're talking about maybe putting on some training within the city. 255 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:57,740 And the last notable thing was the Sheriff's excuse me. 256 00:20:57,740 --> 00:21:05,780 The city is now part of LA RICS and we're using their radio services to help 257 00:21:05,780 --> 00:21:11,580 communicate with fire and police during emergency situations. 258 00:21:14,270 --> 00:21:14,470 Thank you. 259 00:21:14,690 --> 00:21:16,990 Any counseling questions for Nick? 260 00:21:18,250 --> 00:21:21,750 Anybody in the audience have questions for Nick? 261 00:21:22,270 --> 00:21:22,310 Yes. 262 00:21:23,690 --> 00:21:24,070 I'm sorry. 263 00:21:24,150 --> 00:21:24,690 I can't see. 264 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,820 I was just wondering there's always been a very good relationship 265 00:21:34,820 --> 00:21:38,920 And I believe that your evacuation is like the 266 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:42,520 Mount Meadow Elementary School, and I just wanted to see if there's been 267 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:48,800 conversations with the school and making sure that that I think they have 268 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:53,100 radios that connect with us here to make sure that that is active now the 269 00:21:53,100 --> 00:21:54,180 school year has started. 270 00:21:54,940 --> 00:21:58,020 So I did talk to you each of the way and I did talk to when I first 271 00:21:58,020 --> 00:22:00,780 started here with the school district about that. 272 00:22:01,100 --> 00:22:02,900 We are actively working on a situation. 273 00:22:02,900 --> 00:22:09,940 are asking me a plan that we can have certain exits and entrances shut down so that we 274 00:22:09,940 --> 00:22:14,560 can have the kids come in and be safe area while we're transporting up from the school 275 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,200 to the H.O.A. So we're working on that actually. 276 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:23,860 There are no hands race, Mayor. 277 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:29,660 The head of the question is when can we expect that they have that evacuation plan finalized? 278 00:22:30,020 --> 00:22:34,100 So we started talking to the school district about it and we're working with Ellie County 279 00:22:34,100 --> 00:22:37,700 You're a department about that, hopefully by end of October. 280 00:22:38,660 --> 00:22:40,880 So maybe a presentation in November? 281 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,760 Sure. Absolutely. Thank you. 282 00:22:45,850 --> 00:22:48,230 Mary? I'm sorry. I'm sorry to interrupt. 283 00:22:48,910 --> 00:22:54,250 There is a black Chevy Tahoe license plate ending in 773. 284 00:22:54,450 --> 00:22:57,210 That's on the inside parking lot that is blocking cars. 285 00:22:57,910 --> 00:23:00,230 And people are unable to get out. 286 00:23:01,410 --> 00:23:02,150 Thank you. 287 00:23:09,820 --> 00:23:17,800 Okay, we want to move on to item 3, D, and update on the round metomer roads, landscaping 288 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:21,520 projects, city engineer, Michael Aquaman, we'll make the presentation. 289 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,780 Thank you council staff and residents for attendance tonight. 290 00:23:28,500 --> 00:23:34,600 We are lucky enough to have Camille with studio M.A. here to make the presentation for the round 291 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:36,220 that old landscaping update. 292 00:23:45,470 --> 00:23:46,890 The shape being here. 293 00:23:47,510 --> 00:23:49,210 I think that we've just given you a little history, 294 00:23:49,410 --> 00:23:50,990 which I know many of you already know, 295 00:23:51,150 --> 00:23:53,590 because you've been engaged in the process, 296 00:23:53,990 --> 00:23:57,230 but we have a little slideshow for you here. 297 00:23:57,490 --> 00:23:59,590 I think Dean is going to put that up for us. 298 00:24:04,580 --> 00:24:06,800 And this is the first image. 299 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:08,920 I'm not sure if we can get a full screen on that, 300 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:10,780 but it's a little small. 301 00:24:11,620 --> 00:24:14,340 But hopefully the viewers from home can see it too. 302 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,440 So this is just the original condition 303 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,300 out at Merrill Road when everything first started. 304 00:24:19,500 --> 00:24:25,060 Some of you long time ago, people were going to have to pull it off to Z-Bell and all of 305 00:24:25,060 --> 00:24:25,360 that. 306 00:24:25,460 --> 00:24:30,820 All of that is gone now, but we want to just give you update on where we are, so you can go to 307 00:24:30,820 --> 00:24:31,780 the second slide. 308 00:24:31,780 --> 00:24:32,380 It's 309 00:24:54,660 --> 00:24:57,120 a pity, absolutely. You can just roll out some of the people. 310 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:15,780 We 311 00:25:20,260 --> 00:25:29,000 did it today. We have an automated in AI so you could walk through. This is from a couple of years ago, or from a little while ago. 312 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:40,700 Probably what's most important about those is just that, you know, there's just the black material that was tired and it needed to be updated. 313 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:45,940 Everybody can somebody go help to see if it's in our point. We can just do a slideshow. 314 00:25:45,940 --> 00:25:49,700 I think 315 00:26:12,450 --> 00:26:15,690 they know we can see them. 316 00:26:17,830 --> 00:26:19,910 It's like they make stickers on them. 317 00:26:20,130 --> 00:26:21,930 I don't know how and you do little stickers on here. 318 00:26:22,230 --> 00:26:23,010 Okay, there we go. 319 00:26:23,330 --> 00:26:27,070 So this is the flat drill plan. 320 00:26:27,210 --> 00:26:28,930 I just wanted to show you how that was going. 321 00:26:29,530 --> 00:26:31,810 This is what you saw in the last time I was here. 322 00:26:32,610 --> 00:26:35,790 What is slightly different about it is the bottom band. 323 00:26:35,790 --> 00:26:44,690 We did get approval from the city to incorporate the county portions, so it'll integrate beautifully by the time it finishes. 324 00:26:46,370 --> 00:26:47,890 They need to go to the next slide. 325 00:26:51,020 --> 00:26:51,960 This was the rendering. 326 00:26:52,220 --> 00:26:54,040 This is what we're working to achieve. 327 00:26:54,200 --> 00:27:00,660 Some minor plant material changes, but basically overall this is what is being built today. 328 00:27:00,780 --> 00:27:02,020 So the build is underway. 329 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,800 This is an overview of that same corner. 330 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:19,040 And then this is just wanted to give you kind of an overview of what's happening out there. 331 00:27:19,360 --> 00:27:25,100 And so the top row is showing the condition when we kicked off Bill. 332 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,540 And that was once the bid was accepted from the general contractor. 333 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:32,480 So it's just showing some of the difficult conditions that were up there. 334 00:27:33,120 --> 00:27:36,820 The fence was needing repairs, so that is getting done. 335 00:27:36,820 --> 00:27:40,740 the path was needing repair and it is going to be replaced. 336 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:42,060 It's already been demoed. 337 00:27:42,540 --> 00:27:44,980 You can see the old retaining wall back there. 338 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:47,320 It has already been replaced now. 339 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:52,100 And a small garden wall has been put in front of that and that's been taken out. 340 00:27:52,500 --> 00:27:55,500 If you go to the next image, you'll see them starting to lay that path. 341 00:27:55,740 --> 00:27:56,360 Oops, I'm sorry. 342 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:57,840 Can you go back to that one? 343 00:27:58,100 --> 00:27:59,420 Yeah, we'll just stay on this one. 344 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,260 So in road two, image one. 345 00:28:02,700 --> 00:28:06,800 You'll see the establishment of recreating that path. 346 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:13,060 that will now be with papers to give it a longer, longer duration of use and better durability. 347 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:21,960 In image 2, you just start to see some of the guys moving dirt and the really good team out there. 348 00:28:22,340 --> 00:28:24,100 Moving dirt around and it's coming together. 349 00:28:24,660 --> 00:28:26,940 You can see the final layout of that path. 350 00:28:27,360 --> 00:28:32,900 And then on the right side, you'll see the form that's as they're putting in the low wall. 351 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:34,720 And that's already just been completed. 352 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:41,900 And then if you go to the first one, it's being hidden by a demon's name, but if you 353 00:28:41,900 --> 00:28:45,520 can picture it, and if you get time when you're driving by, and the one in the left 354 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:50,760 is a very precarious corner, so if you can look out that way, these trees are all right. 355 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,500 This is a big oak in the bottom left, you see. 356 00:28:54,540 --> 00:28:57,440 You know, it looks like it's a magnificent specimen. 357 00:28:58,220 --> 00:29:00,080 It has all those trees arrived. 358 00:29:00,260 --> 00:29:01,620 They've all been set in place. 359 00:29:01,820 --> 00:29:02,800 They're not all planted. 360 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:07,160 Yeah, we're just doing that, doing soil amendment, 361 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:09,240 prepping everything. 362 00:29:09,700 --> 00:29:13,000 You can see that same tree, actually in the second image 363 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,960 on the third row with the guy standing next to it 364 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:17,020 isn't placing that. 365 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:21,520 You can see some easy job to do to those of you who like to work 366 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:22,260 in your garden. 367 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,260 It's a big job and they are doing that right there. 368 00:29:25,780 --> 00:29:27,660 And then as you go to the last two images, 369 00:29:28,020 --> 00:29:30,040 you'll see the fence has been replaced, 370 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:35,200 This is kind of small for this audience, but hopefully that home audience can also see it. 371 00:29:35,900 --> 00:29:37,980 You can see the fences have been patched completely. 372 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:38,940 You paint it. 373 00:29:39,540 --> 00:29:41,820 The new plant material is going up the hill. 374 00:29:42,420 --> 00:29:47,040 The neighbor has taken care of her side of the fence and is working on. 375 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,440 Her side of the fence is there's some overgrowth plants there. 376 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,920 And then the new plant material is coming in and this is just showing it in the last image. 377 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,980 it's sitting as it is going to engage of me. 378 00:30:02,510 --> 00:30:30,360 And then, Dean, I'm not positive. There's the one last one just to talk about might not be there. This might be there. Okay, this is just showing it done now. So you can see everything's been incorporated. This is showing the path. The county has agreed. Thanks to your team. You did a great job with the county to eliminate what was a really hazardous exit. Way on that paragraph. Thank you for the walk there before. 379 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:40,440 It used to go straight out just into the street like worst location and we had been waiting and waiting and hoping they would give us that and you're 380 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:49,520 Transfect team got that for us and so that end piece that used to see on the very first slide has been removed. So let's just be a beautiful little turnaround 381 00:30:50,060 --> 00:30:58,180 and you can get to the end and explore the plant materials. There's a lot to be learned from the plant materials. They're all on me. 382 00:30:58,180 --> 00:31:03,400 fire mitigation list, they are all wonderful specimens in terms of water. 383 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,300 And so really worth looking at, there's a couple of 384 00:31:07,300 --> 00:31:10,160 feature things that are a little more special than that. 385 00:31:10,580 --> 00:31:14,120 But because this doesn't have structures, we were a lot used 386 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:15,420 materials we have. 387 00:31:16,140 --> 00:31:17,020 And that's it. 388 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:18,720 So it's going to complete on itself. 389 00:31:18,900 --> 00:31:22,260 I think you can give you a better idea of that final date. 390 00:31:22,420 --> 00:31:26,960 But we seem to be on going on and on schedule and hitting on 391 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,340 If there's questions, I'd like to answer. 392 00:31:31,340 --> 00:31:32,160 Thank you very much. 393 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:33,800 Can I ask you a lot of any questions for Camille? 394 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:35,960 I'd love to hear a date. 395 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:40,080 Right. 396 00:31:40,580 --> 00:31:41,720 I don't know if we know that. 397 00:31:42,700 --> 00:31:45,540 Yeah, thank you for the question. 398 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:49,360 The current date for completion is November of 26, 399 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,960 but we expected to be complete before then. 400 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:54,840 And in November of the beginning of November. 401 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:56,900 Hopefully, the beginning of November. 402 00:31:57,380 --> 00:31:57,500 Okay. 403 00:31:57,960 --> 00:31:58,240 He's there. 404 00:31:58,520 --> 00:31:58,940 I'm there. 405 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:00,660 Don't you remember? 406 00:32:01,220 --> 00:32:01,400 No. 407 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:02,300 No. 408 00:32:02,740 --> 00:32:03,020 Good. 409 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:03,620 Good. 410 00:32:04,540 --> 00:32:07,240 Anybody in the audience have any questions for Camilla Rykel? 411 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:08,980 Can I have a minute? 412 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:14,180 Ted Rosenquist? 413 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:22,320 Do we have any legal liability because we've designed the path? 414 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:27,140 So, a homeless guy, for example, can sleep back there? 415 00:32:27,140 --> 00:32:29,980 do something is that our property 416 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,420 thank you for the question that is the city's 417 00:32:36,420 --> 00:32:42,020 property and I believe it's the same liability is as all right of way within the 418 00:32:42,020 --> 00:32:46,060 city's property and city properties but yeah somebody was sleeping there that would 419 00:32:46,060 --> 00:32:50,520 be something we would want to address so just let us respect it 420 00:32:53,180 --> 00:32:54,740 you please take the 421 00:32:54,740 --> 00:33:00,520 liability question sure I think that is correct and as with any public property you 422 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:04,420 want to properly maintain and make sure that you're watching and make sure that you handle 423 00:33:04,420 --> 00:33:08,380 issues. As they come up, report them to the city. If you see anything in that way, they 424 00:33:08,380 --> 00:33:10,500 know to take appropriate action and protect the city. 425 00:33:11,500 --> 00:33:16,740 So, if I remember correctly, one of the things that was a little controversial that we decided 426 00:33:16,740 --> 00:33:25,660 as a council was to remove the drinking fountain. Okay. Because we felt that, yeah, I think anything 427 00:33:25,660 --> 00:33:37,300 that gave reason for groups of adults to congregate next to an elementary school was not a great idea. 428 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,720 So we did make, we did do some of these considerations and sort of look at that. 429 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,300 We think we came up with the right balance of the answer. 430 00:33:44,820 --> 00:33:44,940 Good. 431 00:33:45,260 --> 00:33:45,760 Thank you. 432 00:33:53,330 --> 00:33:54,610 I have some questions. 433 00:33:54,610 --> 00:34:04,110 This corner is costing $835,000, I believe, with these changes and I know some of it comes 434 00:34:04,110 --> 00:34:11,570 from measure R and some from measure M. But I don't know if you noticed that you voted 435 00:34:11,570 --> 00:34:17,970 to approve alternate C and the executed contract shows a different price which was alternate 436 00:34:17,970 --> 00:34:22,410 a city council, a city manager signed off on. 437 00:34:23,050 --> 00:34:30,130 And at that meeting, I thought Stuart wisely mentioned that it would be nice to have that 438 00:34:30,130 --> 00:34:35,110 opportunity if we were going to spend that much money to get a right turn lane out of 439 00:34:35,110 --> 00:34:36,550 that congested area. 440 00:34:37,890 --> 00:34:45,070 I have asked before about seeing a permit for that, and I have not been given it was a request 441 00:34:45,070 --> 00:34:47,310 that I made officially and writing, 442 00:34:49,650 --> 00:34:50,130 and I just 443 00:34:50,130 --> 00:34:53,650 not anything about the design or what you've done, 444 00:34:53,930 --> 00:34:55,850 but the process of this. 445 00:34:58,230 --> 00:34:59,970 There's no sign up there that... 446 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:11,180 Has like the city of Hen Hills has asked residents and all construction to have, which has contact information, has information about AQMD contact, et cetera. 447 00:35:12,460 --> 00:35:27,000 So I've asked several times, I've never gotten a response, I've not gotten a copy of the permit for that, and from my understanding and from a request for public documents, there was no secret. 448 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,020 CQ, I'm sorry, CQA, CQA, right? 449 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:35,660 Done for that, and that is required for something of that scope. 450 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:37,720 No environmental review. 451 00:35:38,780 --> 00:35:44,060 No coordination with the school, which was quite alarming to concern that that was going on. 452 00:35:44,100 --> 00:35:49,480 And there have been multiple times I've gone by there, and trucks are standing out into the street, 453 00:35:49,540 --> 00:35:52,980 or you come around the corner, and there's this truck out there. 454 00:35:53,540 --> 00:35:59,520 So, you know, Fender, a bumper, I have great concerns about this that remain unanswered. 455 00:36:06,900 --> 00:36:08,240 Maybe I have a question for Michael. 456 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,880 Is this project a landscaping project? 457 00:36:11,540 --> 00:36:15,940 Not like a construction construction, like building a house. 458 00:36:17,300 --> 00:36:18,620 Right, thank you for the question. 459 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:20,800 It is a landscaping project. 460 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:27,720 Okay, so we don't need to post those signs for landscaping project, do we? 461 00:36:28,700 --> 00:36:34,680 We typically do post signs where the signs are being posted as we speak. 462 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:36,280 Okay. Fantastic. 463 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:43,300 We have a list of questions that have come up and so we will take them and we will respond. 464 00:36:43,620 --> 00:36:47,680 And just one more thing that there was coordination between the school district and the city. 465 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:53,920 And I have one final for Lauren. Is this is the exam from sequo? 466 00:36:55,340 --> 00:37:04,200 Typically there are exemptions for landscaping projects and minor alterations to land, so I would imagine that that's how this project was looked at. 467 00:37:07,270 --> 00:37:08,150 Okay, Barbara, go ahead. 468 00:37:08,990 --> 00:37:18,050 I have a question with the fact that is in the city of Hidden Hills, but is outside the gates. 469 00:37:18,630 --> 00:37:25,810 What procedure is planned to make sure that nobody does end up on the property and create an issue, 470 00:37:25,810 --> 00:37:27,930 especially across the street from the school. 471 00:37:28,230 --> 00:37:30,750 I'm sure everyone gets watched every day, 472 00:37:30,990 --> 00:37:33,890 I probably get 10 texts of fires everywhere. 473 00:37:34,890 --> 00:37:37,290 And that to me is an opportunity for someone 474 00:37:37,290 --> 00:37:39,710 even if the plant materials are fire resistant 475 00:37:39,710 --> 00:37:41,190 to start something. 476 00:37:41,590 --> 00:37:44,390 So is there any plan that somebody's going to be driving 477 00:37:44,390 --> 00:37:47,310 by the cover six every day, stopping walking 478 00:37:47,310 --> 00:37:49,570 through the property, making sure that nobody's there 479 00:37:49,570 --> 00:37:50,590 that shouldn't be there? 480 00:37:53,740 --> 00:37:57,840 Well, my only comment would be that we had a gazebo 481 00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:01,500 with a fire height, with a drinking fountain there for 20 years. 482 00:38:03,180 --> 00:38:10,200 I don't recall there ever being an issue less of a strike than we have. 483 00:38:16,550 --> 00:38:19,590 The direct answer to the question is, we do not contract with covered 484 00:38:19,590 --> 00:38:20,510 sister services. 485 00:38:20,890 --> 00:38:23,430 The covered six contract is covered with the HOA. 486 00:38:23,590 --> 00:38:24,790 This is outside the HOA. 487 00:38:25,070 --> 00:38:28,010 I don't think we made any special provisions. 488 00:38:28,010 --> 00:38:38,010 we rely on the sheriff's department, you know, we do contract for a sheriff's patrol car, we would the city, you know, 489 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:58,500 Do we still have the homeless outreach? 490 00:39:00,380 --> 00:39:12,980 Okay, so we have a homeless outreach guy that comes around and checks for homeless people. 491 00:39:12,980 --> 00:39:18,700 and he was partly paid for him in Wales and partly paid for him. 492 00:39:18,700 --> 00:39:20,680 He stayed by the car because they called him. 493 00:39:20,940 --> 00:39:22,300 He needed no service at the city risk. 494 00:39:22,660 --> 00:39:27,680 And he has found in the past a homeless guy that was sleeping in the gazebo. 495 00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:38,340 So much as I love that gazebo, I didn't know if we were going to take it out, but it made sense 496 00:39:38,340 --> 00:39:44,100 fire-wise, too, because it was the lepidated wood. So what we've 497 00:39:44,100 --> 00:39:50,640 have done on that corner is a lot more fire-safe than it was in the past. 498 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:58,360 It'll be well maintained, and hopefully with the homeless outreach. 499 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:05,360 Make sure that no homeless person decides to camp out there. 500 00:40:06,100 --> 00:40:18,700 Yeah, he'll be or she'll be helped by the homeless outreach coordinator who can provide them with services and referrals and all that good stuff. 501 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:25,580 So the other thing I would say is that I encourage everyone to reach out to us if you see something, say something. 502 00:40:25,580 --> 00:40:35,540 So please reach out. If you use that entry, then let us know if you see something that you don't like. Thank you. 503 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:36,980 All right. 504 00:40:37,380 --> 00:40:44,560 My question is, is if this is just a landscaping project, how does it qualify for measure our funds? 505 00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:46,200 That's my question. 506 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,920 Yeah, maybe we should just write it down, yeah. 507 00:40:56,420 --> 00:41:00,160 Great question, and we will get back to you. 508 00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,380 All right, is there anyone else in the audience that would like to comment? 509 00:41:04,060 --> 00:41:05,060 Anybody on Zoom? 510 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:07,440 There are no hands raised, Mayor. 511 00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:08,460 Mayor, Michael. 512 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:10,900 Thank you. 513 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:12,720 And we will do our followers. 514 00:41:13,580 --> 00:41:16,880 We will now move to item three and update on the proposed cemetery. 515 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:21,860 at the former Bowling Treeland property city attorney line or will present? 516 00:41:22,060 --> 00:41:23,240 Sure, thank you Mr. Mayor. 517 00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:33,660 In addition to information that the city has been updating on its website, we wanted to provide a brief update tonight to the community just to provide additional information as we learn it. 518 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:41,520 First and foremost, I think it's important to remind everyone that the property is located entirely within the city of Los Angeles, not hidden hills. 519 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:46,900 So Los Angeles is the entity responsible for reviewing the project, determining applicable zoning 520 00:41:46,900 --> 00:41:49,180 and environmental requirements and issuing permits. 521 00:41:49,720 --> 00:41:54,020 Hidden Hills did not and cannot approve the project and cannot approve or deny it. 522 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:59,420 The city has been actively monitoring, beginning last year Hidden Hills has had access through 523 00:41:59,420 --> 00:42:04,840 my firm to attorneys with experience in cemetery land use matters, investigated the applicable 524 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:10,220 Los Angeles requirements, submitted written letters to Los Angeles planning, mail the detailed 525 00:42:10,220 --> 00:42:15,320 application package to every resident in the city, we've submitted public records requests 526 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:20,260 and continuously monitored and posted permutactivity as we learn it to the city's website. 527 00:42:20,980 --> 00:42:26,880 It was quiet for many, many months. There has been some activity in recent months. We understand 528 00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:32,060 that various applications have been submitted to the city of Los Angeles for a cemetery covering 529 00:42:32,060 --> 00:42:38,680 the approximate 32 acres, approximately 14,000 square foot more toary, maintenance building, 530 00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,160 with grading and related lighting and infrastructure. 531 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:47,620 Some demolition and utility permits have been issued by the City of Los Angeles, but the major grading, 532 00:42:47,940 --> 00:42:53,220 more toary, maintenance building, lighting, and cemetery permits remain in various stages of review. 533 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:59,020 This is not a standard linear application where one package is submitted, and we can get the package in review. 534 00:42:59,140 --> 00:43:04,440 It is a variety of different permits and requests, and it's just not a typical review process. 535 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:09,220 So, it can be hard and complicated to gather all the information and put it together. 536 00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:15,460 We recently heard reports that Los Angeles may have issued an administrative public 537 00:43:15,460 --> 00:43:21,820 benefit determination in June that's related to a portion of the Los Angeles Municipal 538 00:43:21,820 --> 00:43:26,700 Code that could permit a cemetery on a certain use if they meet, on a certain land, if 539 00:43:26,700 --> 00:43:29,300 they meet certain public benefit requirements. 540 00:43:30,260 --> 00:43:34,360 They haven't posted such determination on their website, again, it's not so easily defined, 541 00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:39,220 And so we don't yet have any complete approval or supporting record to review, but we're 542 00:43:39,220 --> 00:43:40,880 piecing together all that information. 543 00:43:41,460 --> 00:43:45,480 We are submitting another public records request this week, requesting more information, 544 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,400 because there is limited information on the city's permit portal. 545 00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:56,640 We've also reviewed recent communication circulated in the community, as I mentioned, because 546 00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:58,820 it's hard to get information on this project. 547 00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:02,020 There are outstanding questions and outstanding legal questions. 548 00:44:02,020 --> 00:44:05,320 For example, is the cemetery even allowed on this site. 549 00:44:05,540 --> 00:44:10,220 We know that certain letters have been submitted to the city of Los Angeles, making arguments 550 00:44:10,220 --> 00:44:14,360 one wear the other, and we're waiting to see what Los Angeles says about it. 551 00:44:14,900 --> 00:44:19,500 These determinations will impact what level of public hearing and if any environmental review 552 00:44:19,500 --> 00:44:20,100 is required. 553 00:44:20,940 --> 00:44:27,080 If any sort of discretionary approval is required, a SQL review would generally be required. 554 00:44:27,240 --> 00:44:29,680 The California Environmental Quality Act. 555 00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:33,360 And then there's the the question with the proposed mortgage-wary building. 556 00:44:33,940 --> 00:44:43,560 What piece of recent information that I learned just recently is that I understand that the one demolition permit that has been issued has been appealed through the city of Los Angeles 557 00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:51,960 And so there is an appeal pending and through that appeal we expect that the city of Los Angeles will issue a written determination on all the arguments 558 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:59,580 And that will probably be the first time that we can see Los Angeles is positioned on the cemetery on the arguments that have been made 559 00:44:59,580 --> 00:44:59,980 and so... 560 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:10,180 I understand in the coming weeks that there should be some response to that appeal. And we eagerly await, reviewing it as do the individuals that have filed that appeal. 561 00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:25,160 That decision could be further appeal throughout the city of Los Angeles process. But we don't know what it will say until it's issued. So we're eagerly awaiting that. And once we see it, we can assess further and provide more public updates to the public. 562 00:45:26,460 --> 00:45:31,280 There have not been recent communications between the city of Hidden Hills and the developer. 563 00:45:31,980 --> 00:45:38,640 I think last year around this time it was reported that any communications about any easements related 564 00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:44,540 to the various properties had been installed and there have not to my knowledge have not been any communications since that time. 565 00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:51,380 So there are not current negotiations going on with the cemetery developer. It has been quiet since that was last reported publicly 566 00:45:51,380 --> 00:45:55,200 And to my knowledge, nothing has changed in that matter. 567 00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:57,880 So we will keep the public updated as we know more. 568 00:45:58,100 --> 00:46:01,440 We will try and keep that website updated as we know more. 569 00:46:01,900 --> 00:46:04,240 As I mentioned, we've found another public records request 570 00:46:04,240 --> 00:46:06,280 to try and get as much information as possible, 571 00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:10,680 because it's not always so easy to navigate the city of Los Angeles's records 572 00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:12,960 and their permit portals, but we're evaluating. 573 00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:15,720 And we will report back to the council and the community 574 00:46:15,720 --> 00:46:18,700 as we have more information that concludes my report. 575 00:46:18,700 --> 00:46:23,380 Any questions from Council? 576 00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:26,500 The only, I have this document. 577 00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:33,620 I would, I've asked our city attorney to reach out 578 00:46:33,620 --> 00:46:37,600 to the attorney for the homeowner that 579 00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:41,560 have filed some of these actions to make sure 580 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:47,020 sort of pants and belts and suspenders type of thing. 581 00:46:47,700 --> 00:46:49,600 Although we're following up and we're doing 582 00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:57,680 our due diligence. There may be more to be learned and I've asked the City Attorney 583 00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:07,330 Langer to reach out to that attorney and to the extent that he can communicate 584 00:47:07,330 --> 00:47:08,190 without 585 00:47:11,230 --> 00:47:16,010 having a negative effect on his attorney client, probably. We'll try and work together 586 00:47:16,010 --> 00:47:16,630 right now. 587 00:47:18,710 --> 00:47:21,610 Is there 588 00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:30,840 anybody in the audience who had that name? 589 00:47:38,130 --> 00:47:39,090 Hello, good evening. 590 00:47:41,170 --> 00:47:58,970 Yes, so it's my understanding that the attorney for the West Valley group that has been working very hard in opposition and working to get requests information public records that are well-head. 591 00:47:58,970 --> 00:48:02,590 I did have a conversation with you, I think, just this afternoon. 592 00:48:04,170 --> 00:48:09,150 So the City of LA secretly approved the Stemitary Project back in June. 593 00:48:10,390 --> 00:48:15,790 There's a case number that was approved by City Planning, Official Dandel or Nado. 594 00:48:16,550 --> 00:48:20,550 And the approval was never listed on CMS, which I believe is what you were referring to 595 00:48:20,550 --> 00:48:21,690 the City Planning website. 596 00:48:21,690 --> 00:48:40,470 But this group of homeowners who did not want to take the cities, it's not our thing and we shouldn't oppose it and moved ahead with some support from a lot of support from within the community and some support from within Hills as well. 597 00:48:41,310 --> 00:48:47,470 So no public notice was issued to the adjacent property owners, no appeal rights were disclosed to the community. 598 00:48:47,470 --> 00:48:54,130 The approval was only discovered to a CPRA, which is California Public Records Act requests. 599 00:48:54,730 --> 00:48:59,750 The Covenant runs permanently with the land, binding all future owners, and the 90-day 600 00:48:59,750 --> 00:49:04,170 challenge closes September 16th, two days from now. 601 00:49:05,630 --> 00:49:08,930 And so there has been zero environmental review. 602 00:49:10,030 --> 00:49:14,770 They're talking about 121,000 cubic yards for grading. 603 00:49:15,610 --> 00:49:23,830 This is an earthquake leak with a liquefification of the qualifications and that was confirmed 604 00:49:23,830 --> 00:49:30,050 in the LADBS parcel report and I know if you were here for the earthquake in 1994 there 605 00:49:30,050 --> 00:49:36,250 was a lot of damage along the Long Valley we had a lot of red tag homes along Long Valley. 606 00:49:36,430 --> 00:49:42,950 This is adjacent to that it's an earthquake's landslide zone also confirmed in that report. 607 00:49:42,950 --> 00:49:48,390 Very high hazard, fire hazard, severity zone, also confirmed at that point. 608 00:49:48,950 --> 00:49:53,030 There's a blue line stream known as the Calbessis Creek running through the property. 609 00:49:53,550 --> 00:49:59,890 LA County flood control debris basin on site, the metropolitan water district pipeline easements. 610 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:04,440 Across the property, there's, I should have brought my water up. 611 00:50:04,700 --> 00:50:05,620 All right, my wife. 612 00:50:10,690 --> 00:50:13,430 As size of the water does not reflect the comments, maybe. 613 00:50:15,150 --> 00:50:19,950 There's 14,455 square foot and retiree that you mentioned with 614 00:50:20,430 --> 00:50:22,990 embalming chemicals near that waterway. 615 00:50:23,610 --> 00:50:27,930 California law requires full environmental review for projects of this scale and sensitivity, 616 00:50:28,610 --> 00:50:32,330 but there has nothing has been obtained for the blue line street. 617 00:50:33,970 --> 00:50:37,370 You mentioned that a notice was sent out to the homeowners. 618 00:50:37,570 --> 00:50:41,530 There was a multi-page letter sent out when it was first discovered. 619 00:50:41,650 --> 00:50:44,090 I think it was last September, August September. 620 00:50:45,350 --> 00:50:49,050 And I'm sorry, but it was very much coordinated with the developer. 621 00:50:50,930 --> 00:50:55,270 And it was using a lot of their euphemistic phrases. 622 00:50:55,690 --> 00:50:58,130 We're not planning this at this time. 623 00:50:58,130 --> 00:50:59,190 things like that. 624 00:50:59,330 --> 00:51:04,710 We already know that based on having the mortuary, they're legally allowed to move from 625 00:51:04,710 --> 00:51:05,790 there to a crematorium. 626 00:51:06,970 --> 00:51:09,990 We are very opposed to that. 627 00:51:10,530 --> 00:51:16,330 And LADBS admitted demolition permits were issued without secret clearance, but it is required 628 00:51:16,330 --> 00:51:18,630 and they called it a department error. 629 00:51:19,770 --> 00:51:26,410 So there's a lot going on here, and I'm glad that the city is catching up to what a private 630 00:51:26,410 --> 00:51:29,190 group of citizens have put a lot of money behind. 631 00:51:29,690 --> 00:51:32,770 And we need more money because we're going to need to file lawsuit. 632 00:51:33,610 --> 00:51:38,990 If people are interested, I will provide the information. 633 00:51:41,190 --> 00:51:46,530 But there was also, I said this a year ago, September 17th at this meeting, and before, 634 00:51:47,050 --> 00:51:53,230 in our engineering reports, and in information, there is talk about phase two for 635 00:51:53,230 --> 00:51:55,610 It entails for the Long Valley Gate. 636 00:51:56,390 --> 00:51:57,030 Excuse me, Matthew. 637 00:51:57,530 --> 00:51:58,310 Your time is up. 638 00:52:01,180 --> 00:52:01,540 Excuse me. 639 00:52:06,150 --> 00:52:06,430 Really? 640 00:52:06,810 --> 00:52:07,230 I can't. 641 00:52:07,570 --> 00:52:10,990 She's offering me this to take her time, and I can't have her three minutes. 642 00:52:13,070 --> 00:52:15,710 It's up to the council, whether you allow people to see their time. 643 00:52:15,770 --> 00:52:17,730 But the other member of the public can speak. 644 00:52:18,690 --> 00:52:19,070 I can't. 645 00:52:19,250 --> 00:52:20,050 I can't. 646 00:52:20,050 --> 00:52:20,910 I can't. 647 00:52:20,910 --> 00:52:21,250 I can't. 648 00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:25,440 I can't. 649 00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:25,960 I can't. 650 00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:26,760 I can't. 651 00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:31,280 I can't. 652 00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:59,320 This month, there was conversation about the need for face to at the long valley gate, and it is a great need, but the fact that there's any interconnection between that and agreements that were sent to dignity, whether that's paused or not, is in the background of a lot of this information and our concerns, a citizens that there were quotes that you would look into it and dig into it and make sure, but 653 00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,200 We're not feeling like that's happening. 654 00:53:02,420 --> 00:53:05,000 We're feeling like we as residents are doing it independently. 655 00:53:05,820 --> 00:53:10,220 And that if the Phase 2 is a quid pro quo to have an easement 656 00:53:10,220 --> 00:53:16,180 and to be playing nicer with dignity, we just are very opposed to that. 657 00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:17,360 So, thank you. 658 00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:22,200 I think this is one of the largest issues facing our city right now. 659 00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:28,480 Anybody else in the audience, like speaker, 660 00:53:30,900 --> 00:53:33,000 is there anybody on Zoom? 661 00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,900 There are no hands raised mayor. 662 00:53:40,020 --> 00:53:40,600 Right, 663 00:53:44,180 --> 00:53:52,380 so no environmental impact report was filed, mitigating any damage to the stream. 664 00:53:54,820 --> 00:53:59,520 Then has been prepared or submitted to the City of Los Angeles and the City of Los Angeles 665 00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:03,380 needs to respond to the public and say whether that's required or not. 666 00:54:03,380 --> 00:54:04,540 if it's... 667 00:54:04,540 --> 00:54:09,340 What's the time people for filing a SQL lawsuit? 668 00:54:12,270 --> 00:54:13,090 Is that the 16th? 669 00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:22,500 Well, we haven't seen any determination that was made in order to be able to make that determination. 670 00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:27,340 But as I mentioned, I understand that there already is an appeal filed with the city of Los Angeles. 671 00:54:27,500 --> 00:54:34,120 That should be preserving those arguments for those that have made them and making the city of Los Angeles. 672 00:54:34,460 --> 00:54:37,340 But they're positions out in writing so that you can go through the process. 673 00:54:37,340 --> 00:54:37,820 I 674 00:54:39,900 --> 00:54:48,670 hope the grading there are going to have water trucks there to keep the valley fever out of the air 675 00:54:48,670 --> 00:54:50,210 Because that's what you get when you 676 00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:55,660 go. I guess we don't know. Okay. 677 00:54:58,590 --> 00:54:59,190 Thank you, Ted 678 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:01,300 Anybody else? 679 00:55:10,980 --> 00:55:17,900 Judy Fisher. I'm here with my husband, Ron. We are residents of Woodland Hills, and we are 680 00:55:17,900 --> 00:55:24,680 very involved with the program that you are actually involved with as well. And I speak for my neighbors, 681 00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:37,560 I live in, we live on Cancunette and bodice street backs up to the Trilion property. There are 682 00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:44,300 are extremely opposed to this project for a host of reasons, not the least of which is 683 00:55:44,300 --> 00:55:50,780 didn't she has made promises to other cemetery properties throughout the country and have 684 00:55:50,780 --> 00:55:52,140 reneged on those promises? 685 00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:58,340 They have, in fact, been sued by a number of these properties, including Eden's memorial 686 00:55:58,830 --> 00:56:00,720 just in the northeast corner of the valley. 687 00:56:01,720 --> 00:56:08,220 The property is actually several parcels, it is not just a single parcel, and if 688 00:56:08,220 --> 00:56:15,320 dignity comes in, they will be able to sell off, build on, change all of those various 689 00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:15,940 parcels. 690 00:56:16,240 --> 00:56:23,100 They have already chopped up some of the property in order to make their application to the 691 00:56:23,100 --> 00:56:23,880 city of Los Angeles. 692 00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:29,720 They have deceived the city of Los Angeles, they have lied on their application, and they 693 00:56:29,720 --> 00:56:35,340 misled the people that are want some of this project to go forward. 694 00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:41,760 I really believe that there needs to be a great awareness of what dignity and S.E.I. 695 00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:45,160 the parent is doing in order to ensure this property. 696 00:56:45,740 --> 00:56:47,600 It is an endangerment to our neighborhood. 697 00:56:48,180 --> 00:56:51,080 They say it will only have a few cars in and out every day. 698 00:56:51,340 --> 00:56:53,480 We all know better when we've been to a funeral. 699 00:56:53,780 --> 00:56:56,460 What that means when the cars march in. 700 00:56:56,460 --> 00:57:03,740 We also know that this is a highly toxic piece of property and the toxicity has never 701 00:57:03,740 --> 00:57:08,620 been mitigated in the 70-plus years that Trialand has owned the property. 702 00:57:09,140 --> 00:57:14,560 There's water runoff that has gone into the water system that is also toxic. 703 00:57:15,720 --> 00:57:26,220 I don't know if you're aware that there was a cemetery up in the north, he's part of the 704 00:57:26,220 --> 00:57:31,240 the taskets actually were arose from the ground. 705 00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:35,100 So there are a lot of things that have not been brought to light, 706 00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:37,800 that I think is really important for your consideration. 707 00:57:38,300 --> 00:57:41,200 And we urge your support, go to the website, 708 00:57:41,380 --> 00:57:42,860 nocemeterie.org. 709 00:57:43,460 --> 00:57:44,140 We need your help. 710 00:57:44,300 --> 00:57:45,240 We need your support. 711 00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:48,280 Thank you so much for the opportunity to talk with you. 712 00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:48,980 Thank you. 713 00:57:49,660 --> 00:57:50,080 And welcome. 714 00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:51,540 Who is going to read our neighbors? 715 00:57:56,790 --> 00:57:57,870 Anybody else in the audience? 716 00:58:00,750 --> 00:58:02,570 There are no hands, raise my. 717 00:58:04,530 --> 00:58:06,670 I can just like that. 718 00:58:07,050 --> 00:58:08,570 So if you have a follow-up, 719 00:58:09,310 --> 00:58:11,070 then we'll move it all up. 720 00:58:12,150 --> 00:58:15,130 Now we'll guide the free act to build a safety code 721 00:58:15,130 --> 00:58:17,470 that will update the code. 722 00:58:17,630 --> 00:58:19,890 We tonight we have a Melissa Verdee 723 00:58:19,890 --> 00:58:22,190 who will transmit the feedback to the code. 724 00:58:23,050 --> 00:58:23,190 Okay. 725 00:58:23,750 --> 00:58:24,050 Yes. 726 00:58:25,940 --> 00:58:28,180 We made that a good evening. 727 00:58:28,180 --> 00:58:33,300 Good evening on a real mayor Mayor Pro-Tem and city council members on behalf of 728 00:58:33,300 --> 00:58:33,660 TransTech. 729 00:58:33,860 --> 00:58:37,240 We're so happy to be here to give a fun update of your building and safety 730 00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:37,760 Department. 731 00:58:38,340 --> 00:58:40,320 I know we have a very short presentation. 732 00:58:40,660 --> 00:58:41,740 It's only three slides. 733 00:58:41,900 --> 00:58:44,160 And I'm going to kind of talk you through what that is. 734 00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:47,140 I think maybe our city part is getting that up. 735 00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:50,580 As we're uploading it, my name is Melissa. 736 00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:52,560 I'm the CEO of TransTech. 737 00:58:52,740 --> 00:58:54,580 With me this evening, I have your building official. 738 00:58:54,620 --> 00:58:55,380 Dennis Trango. 739 00:58:55,380 --> 00:59:02,360 So one of our directors at TransTech, Rafael Ideas, and on the engineering side, of course, 740 00:59:02,460 --> 00:59:05,440 we have our city engineers, Mike Akramin, and all-mod on, sorry. 741 00:59:06,220 --> 00:59:10,820 I just want to say that since we've started servicing the city in January, it's truly been 742 00:59:10,820 --> 00:59:16,600 an amazing experience for us to work with your community, with the applicants, and we just thank you for your 743 00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:17,480 support and leadership. 744 00:59:17,900 --> 00:59:23,280 We did prepare that presentation, and should I go ahead and begin as it's being uploaded or 745 00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:35,320 You can just give me a moment. Yeah, well kind of all we're waiting 746 00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:41,620 I can give you a little bit of background. So we wanted to give you an overview. What is the building and then safety department do for your city? 747 00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:42,360 And so 748 00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:49,020 TransTech is an extension of the city staff, and in the next slide is kind of what I was going to go after. 749 00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:57,320 Is our building and safety department provides plan check services, building official services, building inspection services, 750 00:59:57,740 --> 00:59:59,960 as well as permit technician services on behalf of... 751 01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:08,520 2 applicants. We've included a screenshot of what that landing page looks like on your website. And we've 752 01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:14,380 really integrated an easy approach for applicants or developers or not developers. Contractors to 753 01:00:14,380 --> 01:00:20,520 easily, at any time, 24 hours a day, upload their plans into the system for our plan checkers to 754 01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:26,920 process them in a timely manner. Customer service has been the forefront of everything that we do in 755 01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:32,580 city, especially when making sure that the plan checks are coordinated in just under two weeks 756 01:00:32,580 --> 01:00:38,660 for that first submittal, oftentimes within one week. We really see ourselves as an extension 757 01:00:38,660 --> 01:00:44,140 of city staff and we're really proud to work alongside each of you, of the community and the 758 01:00:44,140 --> 01:00:48,800 city staff. And with that, I'm going to go to the next side, which is the more exciting stuff. 759 01:00:50,060 --> 01:00:54,220 So, in this next slide, we have a breakdown. We wanted to give you a snapshot of what you're building 760 01:00:54,220 --> 01:00:56,360 and safety division looks like in numbers. 761 01:00:57,180 --> 01:00:59,020 We started in the beginning of January, 762 01:00:59,700 --> 01:01:03,380 and we kind of put together a data from January 1, 763 01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:08,520 2026 through August 31, just 14 days ago, 2026. 764 01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:09,900 So here we go. 765 01:01:10,460 --> 01:01:14,160 The city has issued a total of 106 new permits. 766 01:01:14,740 --> 01:01:17,660 In addition, we have finaled 82 permits 767 01:01:17,660 --> 01:01:20,760 that were in review when we began our services in January. 768 01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:24,640 Our team has conducted 511 building inspections. 769 01:01:25,300 --> 01:01:29,560 In return around times is 1 to 2 weeks for that first plan check. 770 01:01:30,180 --> 01:01:34,080 We've reviewed and planned check to total of 208 individual projects, 771 01:01:34,540 --> 01:01:38,260 which included over 800 pages of documents and reports, 772 01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:43,680 and collectively all of these represent approximately 11.7 million 773 01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:47,320 of project evaluation in building permits. 774 01:01:47,460 --> 01:01:49,940 And so what does that mean? What does project evaluation mean? 775 01:01:49,940 --> 01:01:56,760 So in order to calculate the appropriate permit fees, the building code requires applicants to 776 01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:58,520 input an estimated construction cost. 777 01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:03,300 And this is more for the building side of it, not your, you know, heater or some of those 778 01:02:03,300 --> 01:02:04,220 more simple things. 779 01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:10,160 And so that total value of construction for each project includes their estimated materials, 780 01:02:10,580 --> 01:02:13,920 work, labor, electrical gas, plumbing, et cetera. 781 01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:42,820 So, you can see that for the eighth month, eight month period, approximately 11.7 evaluation of building permits were conducted in your city, and it reflects an active year, and it's really a testament to, I think, the quick turnaround times, kind of that update in a lot of customer service and customer support that we've been integrating with the city, and with that, on behalf of our team, thank you so much, and Dennis and I are here to answer any questions that you might have. 782 01:02:50,150 --> 01:02:56,970 You know, it's so relative, so in, you know, you have cities that are 100,000 populations. 783 01:02:56,970 --> 01:02:59,030 You have cities that are 10,000 population. 784 01:02:59,390 --> 01:03:05,150 And so you can't really say what the trends are in terms of is it a high number or it's a low number, 785 01:03:05,430 --> 01:03:09,870 because our people wanting to do construction are people wanting to remodel their homes. 786 01:03:10,330 --> 01:03:14,090 Maybe last year there was a higher number of remodels happening so they're at their tail end 787 01:03:14,090 --> 01:03:15,490 of completing those constructions. 788 01:03:15,490 --> 01:03:22,410 So it's difficult to say necessarily for a city like Hidden Hills, since it is all residential, if it's a higher load number. 789 01:03:23,010 --> 01:03:29,630 Because there isn't business community in terms of development and restaurants and other types of activities. 790 01:03:30,670 --> 01:03:38,690 So we feel that it is a reasonable number considering the number of homes that you have and the activities that I've been happening. 791 01:03:38,690 --> 01:03:44,570 I think that now that the city and the applicants have had a feel for the building and 792 01:03:44,570 --> 01:03:49,790 safety department there might be more remodels and construction going on in the future. 793 01:03:50,450 --> 01:03:54,290 But it's I think very relative to the community. 794 01:03:55,570 --> 01:03:56,610 Council member Seal. 795 01:03:58,210 --> 01:04:06,410 I wanted to make a statement and one for the people watching at TV and out here, they see some 796 01:04:06,410 --> 01:04:08,270 these numbers, hundreds of permits, 797 01:04:10,350 --> 01:04:13,470 and they say, oh my God, we're overbuilding the city 798 01:04:13,470 --> 01:04:17,550 where people forget that a generator requires a permit, 799 01:04:19,900 --> 01:04:21,400 solar panels require a permit, 800 01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:28,120 your Kessler charger and home requires a permit. How about hot water users? They still require 801 01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:37,800 permits. So the vast majority of these permits being issued are not new homes or major 802 01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:44,260 remodels. Correct. You're dealing with a little paint piece. The other thing I wanted to say was 803 01:04:45,100 --> 01:04:52,340 we had an unusually long and wonderful relationship with our former engineering firm, which was 804 01:04:52,340 --> 01:04:59,320 really the face of that was really Steve O and Dirk, and I was very nervous when they decided to 805 01:04:59,320 --> 01:04:59,980 Basically both. 806 01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:12,960 And we kept them around as long as we could. But I'm happy to say that the normal attitude of people 807 01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:22,550 towards their building inspector and their plan checker from my perspective has been zero complaints. 808 01:05:22,550 --> 01:05:31,230 And it was very good in the past and I tried my very best when I first got on the council 809 01:05:31,230 --> 01:05:36,410 because I had a long period of dealing with the city of L.A. and getting building permits 810 01:05:36,410 --> 01:05:48,290 to try and foster a sense that a professional client relationship, not an adversarial relationship, 811 01:05:48,290 --> 01:05:55,770 Although it can be, people don't like being called no, particularly in affluent communities like this. 812 01:05:56,470 --> 01:06:00,290 So, but I haven't had anybody call me. 813 01:06:00,890 --> 01:06:08,250 I had one inquiry about, which I really have to do with having to do with these draft migrants, that's why I asked about it. 814 01:06:08,410 --> 01:06:14,810 Other than that, I heard this sound of silence, so thank you for that. 815 01:06:14,810 --> 01:06:20,290 And hopefully, I don't discover something during now and then, but thank you. 816 01:06:20,570 --> 01:06:22,330 We appreciate that Mayor Proton. 817 01:06:24,110 --> 01:06:25,150 Council Member Gold. 818 01:06:26,450 --> 01:06:28,330 I just wanted to say, welcome. 819 01:06:28,690 --> 01:06:30,090 I see you again, and thank you so much. 820 01:06:30,370 --> 01:06:31,630 We appreciate you and your company. 821 01:06:32,070 --> 01:06:32,250 Thank you. 822 01:06:33,290 --> 01:06:35,690 I know you guys serve us a lot of cities. 823 01:06:36,390 --> 01:06:38,310 Tell us what we should be doing differently. 824 01:06:38,510 --> 01:06:40,590 That will make this better for our community. 825 01:06:41,530 --> 01:07:05,730 You know, I mean this with all of my heart, this is an incredible community and we have had a lot of fun getting to work with the applicants with the H-O-A with the city and really streamlining a lot of the processes and just continuously trying to make it a better experience for applicants and homeowners and contractors that are coming here to help beautify or fix your homes. 826 01:07:06,350 --> 01:07:08,750 I'm no comment, really. We love it. 827 01:07:09,790 --> 01:07:11,850 Okay, then tell me a little bit about how we balance. 828 01:07:14,120 --> 01:07:15,600 Keep in the contractors, keep in 829 01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:20,340 the homeowner, who's actually doing the project, keep in the city in the Asia way, happy, 830 01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:26,580 is really one bucket. Then you have the bucket of the rest of the community that is nothing 831 01:07:26,580 --> 01:07:30,140 but inconvenienced. Do we need to do anything differently there? 832 01:07:30,700 --> 01:07:35,280 You know, I think we see ourselves as building and safety professionals as educators. And I think 833 01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:41,520 biggest thing for us is that we hand-hold residents that might have, I don't want to say 834 01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:49,240 complaints, but might see some construction as new since to advise them on working with 835 01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:55,800 the contractor of noticing, communicating, making sure that everyone is working within the appropriate 836 01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:59,560 hours of working, making sure that they're cleaning up their properties, and so we're working 837 01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:04,700 hard with the city staff to really hold all individuals accountable and to make sure that 838 01:08:04,700 --> 01:08:09,140 the residents are also feeling heard during that process. 839 01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:13,120 Anybody in the audience have any questions for Melissa? 840 01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:17,060 I'll let anybody on Zoom. 841 01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:18,880 There are no hands raised, Mayor. 842 01:08:19,060 --> 01:08:20,740 So one, thank you for coming out tonight. 843 01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:22,060 Great to see you. 844 01:08:22,380 --> 01:08:24,560 Two, thanks for reviewing your team. 845 01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:28,340 It is a short and eye when we went kind of went through this process. 846 01:08:28,780 --> 01:08:32,840 We're very concerned about this, but I can say we think we chose. 847 01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:41,260 We think the council chose very well. We're very pleased and we're stressfully pleased with the fact of the depth of the resources that you are able to provide 848 01:08:41,260 --> 01:08:47,300 You know not everything is exactly how we always want it, but you guys always respond, and we are appreciative. Thank you 849 01:08:47,300 --> 01:08:49,060 We appreciate it so much. Thank you 850 01:08:49,060 --> 01:08:50,700 Thank you 851 01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:58,340 Okay, last under presentations is item 3G an update on the library project 852 01:08:59,620 --> 01:09:03,540 Acting senior manager serving you make the presentation 853 01:09:04,980 --> 01:09:05,860 Yes, Mayor, thank you. 854 01:09:05,980 --> 01:09:08,320 If we can have just a moment to upload that presentation. 855 01:09:40,220 --> 01:09:41,440 Terrific, thank you, Dina. 856 01:09:42,140 --> 01:09:44,160 Good evening, Mayor and members of the City Council. 857 01:09:44,420 --> 01:09:45,740 Tonight, I want to give you an update 858 01:09:45,740 --> 01:09:47,800 on where the AI library stands. 859 01:09:48,420 --> 01:09:49,300 Next slide, please. 860 01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:54,740 The AI library is the first digital community 861 01:09:54,740 --> 01:09:55,640 center platform. 862 01:09:56,180 --> 01:09:59,960 It brings together trusted resources, learning tools, and AI. 863 01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:17,960 Senate power support in one easy-to-use hub. Three things make this platform different from a collection of links and databases and subscriptions. The digital access where residents can reach books, research tools, databases, e-learning resources, any time and anywhere. 864 01:10:18,860 --> 01:10:28,240 Personalization, the AI powered recommendations and smart tools will be built around each individual user, so the experience feels relevant rather than generic. 865 01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:33,680 And the community connection, even though it is digital, it is still local. 866 01:10:34,340 --> 01:10:38,900 Resources, events, and programs are designed to connect residents, students, and neighbors, 867 01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:40,400 here in Hidden Hills. 868 01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:41,640 Next slide, please. 869 01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:46,440 The platform itself is built and live. 870 01:10:47,260 --> 01:10:51,400 That is the hardest part, and the most technical part of this project, and it is complete. 871 01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:55,240 What remains is what we are calling the pieces in production. 872 01:10:56,020 --> 01:10:58,240 I want to walk through each of those briefly. 873 01:10:58,240 --> 01:11:03,640 The membership system, which will allow residents to sign up and be verified as members. 874 01:11:04,380 --> 01:11:12,500 On boarding automation, so new members get a smooth guided introduction to library instead of needing hands on staff support. 875 01:11:13,820 --> 01:11:24,580 Content pieces, this is the educational and informational content, including the AI avatar videos and written guides for our content partner, are currently being produced. 876 01:11:24,580 --> 01:11:31,820 The final graphics, the visual assets, residents will actually see when they utilize the platform. 877 01:11:33,220 --> 01:11:38,280 And finally, the integrations, which connect the library to the outside systems that depends on, 878 01:11:38,300 --> 01:11:41,000 including our registration and content partner platforms. 879 01:11:42,120 --> 01:11:43,120 Next slide, please. 880 01:11:45,690 --> 01:11:47,750 Moving forward and remaining pieces. 881 01:11:48,470 --> 01:11:51,870 This slide outlines the remaining pieces that we are focusing on. 882 01:11:51,870 --> 01:11:57,730 The membership system, we are building and preparing the actual membership experience residents 883 01:11:57,730 --> 01:11:59,350 will use to sign up. 884 01:11:59,950 --> 01:12:05,390 The onboard automation, we are developing and testing the onboarding flow so it works correctly 885 01:12:05,390 --> 01:12:07,370 before residency it. 886 01:12:07,790 --> 01:12:14,170 The content pieces are being produced and initiated into the library and the videos and 887 01:12:14,170 --> 01:12:16,930 guys residents will use once they log in. 888 01:12:16,930 --> 01:12:30,950 The final graphics, we were completing the visual assets and will hopefully be approving very shortly all of the visual concepts and graphics for our content developer and the integrations. 889 01:12:31,150 --> 01:12:35,770 We are completing registration and integration and testing our outside platforms. 890 01:12:36,970 --> 01:12:38,290 Next slide, please. 891 01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:43,140 Right now, we are past the platform build. 892 01:12:43,620 --> 01:12:45,900 We are in the remaining pieces of production stage. 893 01:12:46,180 --> 01:12:49,560 From here, the path to launch runs through five easy steps. 894 01:12:50,720 --> 01:12:53,240 Produce, we finish building out the remaining pieces. 895 01:12:54,020 --> 01:12:56,320 And a great connect those pieces to the platform. 896 01:12:57,340 --> 01:13:00,300 Testing, where we verify everything works as intended. 897 01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:05,020 And finalizing, where we address anything that comes up through the testing phase. 898 01:13:05,020 --> 01:13:10,480 before we complete the final review and then finally our launch and open to the public. 899 01:13:11,460 --> 01:13:12,300 Next slide. 900 01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:16,720 I'm happy to take any questions, Mayor. 901 01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:17,880 Okay. 902 01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:19,840 Thank you, member. 903 01:13:20,100 --> 01:13:22,320 Any questions from the Council? 904 01:13:22,740 --> 01:13:23,240 I don't agree. 905 01:13:24,860 --> 01:13:25,160 Any questions? 906 01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:26,480 I don't. 907 01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:27,940 I don't agree. 908 01:13:27,940 --> 01:13:28,680 I have several. 909 01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:30,680 So first, 910 01:13:35,410 --> 01:13:37,110 if and when we are successful, 911 01:13:37,110 --> 01:13:45,610 There will be several, there should be a place where our young residents and school district and school district students 912 01:13:45,610 --> 01:13:54,390 in coming, you realize this library to form what they would do a little more of the individual physical life. 913 01:13:54,970 --> 01:14:01,010 What kind of projections are you guys looking at to make sure that this is an appropriate place for the students? 914 01:14:01,970 --> 01:14:03,870 Yes, thank you for the question, Mayor. 915 01:14:05,070 --> 01:14:08,210 The LVUSD school district will have its own separate log in. 916 01:14:08,510 --> 01:14:19,950 From there, we are able to really drill down on the different types of permissions that the students are being granted access to, and it will also be based on age appropriation. 917 01:14:20,730 --> 01:14:27,570 So our K through second graders will not have access to the same information that our high school students will. 918 01:14:28,230 --> 01:14:29,890 So all of that is being done on the back end. 919 01:14:29,890 --> 01:14:32,830 to what about our underage residents who don't vote for us? 920 01:14:33,270 --> 01:14:37,070 They will have an area that was for youth 921 01:14:37,070 --> 01:14:40,550 under hidden hills and the city of Calabassas. 922 01:14:40,890 --> 01:14:44,430 So they will have the same type of guardrails 923 01:14:45,330 --> 01:14:46,370 within the platform. 924 01:14:47,390 --> 01:14:48,670 And then correct me if I wanted to. 925 01:14:48,710 --> 01:14:49,750 One of the things that I think 926 01:14:49,750 --> 01:14:52,170 is that when I talk to people about the library, 927 01:14:53,190 --> 01:14:54,230 there are a few things that people 928 01:14:54,230 --> 01:14:55,450 You can see it again. 929 01:14:58,080 --> 01:14:59,570 It's not at the beginning. 930 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:15,320 Colleen is an A.I. library, but it's really a digital library that utilizes A.I. to power some increase functionality. It's not an A.I. library. Is that even that a better description? 931 01:15:16,340 --> 01:15:16,960 Yes, sir. 932 01:15:17,420 --> 01:15:28,820 So when we do this, when we built this, everything we've done, I want to make sure that I have this clear. There are three buckets of customers that we are targeting. 933 01:15:28,820 --> 01:15:35,100 There's one in the house right at the end, and we want to build something very functional for our residents too. 934 01:15:35,780 --> 01:15:47,160 We have incorporated a lot of service in a school district to weigh in on what they would actually like to see us build in the access and the digital assets that we have. 935 01:15:47,720 --> 01:15:57,960 And three, it's also being built for the city of Calabassas, because we entered into an agreement with the city of Calabassas that they were going there residents. 936 01:15:57,960 --> 01:16:09,920 We have equal access to hours and what we traded off for that was that our residents still have all of the same access to the city of Calabass's library system that they had before. 937 01:16:10,200 --> 01:16:10,940 Do I have this correct? 938 01:16:11,300 --> 01:16:11,840 Yes, sir. 939 01:16:12,040 --> 01:16:12,180 Awesome. 940 01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:13,600 Thank you. 941 01:16:15,680 --> 01:16:16,600 Anybody in the audience? 942 01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:17,720 Have any questions for Amber? 943 01:16:20,480 --> 01:16:20,660 Yes. 944 01:16:20,740 --> 01:16:23,100 My question is what do you have brought up in the past? 945 01:16:23,360 --> 01:16:29,920 Is there any validation about usage that if we build this that will have that anyone actually uses it? 946 01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:35,100 that we're going to report back to the city on usage that it's actually, we're spending money 947 01:16:35,100 --> 01:16:38,140 on something that's being, that's benefiting the people that are actually getting used. 948 01:16:38,940 --> 01:16:43,980 So we have, we are, we haven't finalized them, but we have a developed set of metrics 949 01:16:43,980 --> 01:16:49,780 of how we're going to measure usage and the city will, the city will get those reports 950 01:16:49,780 --> 01:16:53,880 and what they just, how they decide to distribute them will be the next council. 951 01:16:56,660 --> 01:17:00,200 I was part of one of the groups, the focus groups before it started. 952 01:17:00,200 --> 01:17:02,700 and my opinion is still remaining the same. 953 01:17:02,960 --> 01:17:05,140 I personally think it's a total waste of time, 954 01:17:05,580 --> 01:17:06,860 and it's been confirmed now, 955 01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:09,620 because last virgin schools, as well as L.I. City, 956 01:17:10,120 --> 01:17:12,940 have found that there's too much internet for the kids 957 01:17:12,940 --> 01:17:15,940 and they're going back to the basics of teachers teaching. 958 01:17:17,200 --> 01:17:20,360 To provide this kind and take these funds and use it 959 01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:23,540 for something that I think is not going to benefit. 960 01:17:24,060 --> 01:17:27,480 My second point is, isn't this also a public library, 961 01:17:27,480 --> 01:17:32,640 that anybody anywhere has the right to become a member, or is it restricted to hidden 962 01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:35,620 hills and calabassas and lost virgin students? 963 01:17:36,740 --> 01:17:37,240 That's the second. 964 01:17:37,480 --> 01:17:46,680 The third is the question about the amount of money, the $57,000, $52,000 that was paid toward 965 01:17:46,680 --> 01:17:51,280 the assistant city manager's salary from funds that are from the library. 966 01:17:52,660 --> 01:17:57,780 So, I normally wouldn't answer, and we would just, but I think they're pretty easy answers to give you. 967 01:17:58,080 --> 01:18:06,240 One, the lost version of school district has been an active participant and an advocate of us completing the project. 968 01:18:09,640 --> 01:18:10,220 I apologize. 969 01:18:11,820 --> 01:18:11,960 Okay. 970 01:18:12,420 --> 01:18:20,820 So, the lost version of school district has been an active participant in the design and what it is that we're building. 971 01:18:20,820 --> 01:18:27,040 And they see so far, everything they've communicated to us has been, they are an advocate of the project. 972 01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:27,400 This 973 01:18:30,950 --> 01:18:36,710 is recent. 974 01:18:42,050 --> 01:18:48,370 We're ongoing, this is an ongoing project, and we are continuing to build. 975 01:18:49,070 --> 01:18:51,470 Your second question was, 976 01:18:53,390 --> 01:19:01,390 So our hour analysis is that we are, we are perfectly within our rights and entitled to limit it to hidden hills, 977 01:19:01,550 --> 01:19:05,330 gallabasses, residents and lost versions of school district. 978 01:19:06,530 --> 01:19:12,230 We've done the research, and we believe that is, and we have structured it to do that. 979 01:19:12,730 --> 01:19:14,190 And your third question? 980 01:19:16,110 --> 01:19:23,590 So, so the, we get library funds and we can allocate them to spending on the library. 981 01:19:24,250 --> 01:19:37,030 We took a portion of the Assistant City's manager, the manager's salary, that we thought was reflective of their time and allocated that cost to come out of that fund rather than pay it out of the general fund. 982 01:19:37,030 --> 01:19:44,130 We believe as a library expense, we believe that's how it should be accounted for, and to do so differently, we would be improper. 983 01:19:44,750 --> 01:19:51,410 So we believe that that we actually think that is the appropriate way to account for it, and so far our auditor's agree. 984 01:19:55,830 --> 01:19:56,870 Anybody else? 985 01:19:57,910 --> 01:19:59,970 Sorry, I don't mean to note that you're committing suicide. 986 01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:05,640 I don't want to thank you for answering. There's no restriction on you answering items on the agenda, I don't believe. 987 01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:08,880 Well, if the use of the I like to do a lot of research first. Okay. 988 01:20:09,540 --> 01:20:10,580 You know, where do you did? 989 01:20:11,940 --> 01:20:13,920 So, I might anticipate it this one. 990 01:20:14,380 --> 01:20:22,120 If people submitted letters or emails to the city council or there's being read into the minutes. 991 01:20:23,580 --> 01:20:25,080 Pardon me, we're on the library right now. 992 01:20:25,080 --> 01:20:27,480 I understand, because I have an email from somebody 993 01:20:28,480 --> 01:20:33,400 and I was asked to read it if her email is not being read 994 01:20:33,400 --> 01:20:35,340 into the minute, so I just thought, in general, 995 01:20:36,060 --> 01:20:38,200 is that happening on items? 996 01:20:38,320 --> 01:20:40,100 Oh, the comment is not being read into the record. 997 01:20:40,860 --> 01:20:43,700 OK, so I'm reading this on behalf of Brett Aeronson, 998 01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:46,140 who writes, I am writing to request clarification 999 01:20:46,140 --> 01:20:48,840 regarding the city use of the property tax 1000 01:20:48,840 --> 01:20:51,460 revenues designated for library services. 1001 01:20:51,460 --> 01:20:57,600 California Edcote 1-9-1-6 requires a city that withdraws from the LA County Free Library 1002 01:20:57,600 --> 01:21:03,540 system to assume responsibility for providing library services and provides that the 1003 01:21:03,540 --> 01:21:07,940 associated property tax revenues be used to maintain those services. 1004 01:21:08,260 --> 01:21:11,000 According to the city's audited financial statements, 1005 01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:37,360 In those received $589,423, and library designated property tax revenue for the year 20223224, and an additional $636,612 for 202425 get the city report zero in library fund expenditures in both fiscal years. 1006 01:21:37,360 --> 01:21:44,760 In addition, the library fund reached 1.6, 1.7 million, as of June 30, 2025. 1007 01:21:45,660 --> 01:21:54,360 The city also transferred 36,973 from the library fund in 2023, 2024, and 28, 48, 1008 01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:59,320 in 2024, 25, described as transfers for allowable expenditures. 1009 01:22:00,100 --> 01:22:04,440 I respectfully request the city identify precisely what those expenditures were, 1010 01:22:04,440 --> 01:22:09,040 and the authority under which they were determined to be allowable library expenditures. 1011 01:22:09,740 --> 01:22:14,340 Given these figures, I am asking the City Council to clarify what library services 1012 01:22:14,340 --> 01:22:22,280 were provided to Hidden Hills during the year 223 and 224 as well as 224 and 225. 1013 01:22:22,440 --> 01:22:24,260 I'm just not as white fuzz on my book. 1014 01:22:25,420 --> 01:22:31,220 What specifically did the library fund transfers that I mentioned pay for, how does the city 1015 01:22:31,220 --> 01:22:36,800 I believe it's used in accumulation of these restrictive funds 1016 01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:42,080 complies with ed code 19116 and what is the city's current plan for the approximate 1017 01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:46,500 1.7 million accumulated in library fund. 1018 01:22:47,660 --> 01:22:51,120 She says I'm not alleging wrong doing however these financial figures rates 1019 01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:55,220 serious questions of potential noncompliance with statutory requirement 1020 01:22:55,220 --> 01:22:58,940 that these revenues be used to maintain library services. 1021 01:22:58,940 --> 01:23:09,640 She further says, I believe in Hill's residence, deserve a clear accounting of these funds in an explanation of how the city is fulfilling its legal responsibility to provide library services. 1022 01:23:09,980 --> 01:23:12,100 Thank you for your attention to this matter. 1023 01:23:14,040 --> 01:23:14,500 Thank you. 1024 01:23:16,640 --> 01:23:18,980 So this is going to require much more detailed response. 1025 01:23:19,280 --> 01:23:25,480 So we will take a few hours and we will craft our responsibility to communicate it up. 1026 01:23:25,820 --> 01:23:27,000 Anybody else in the audience? 1027 01:23:27,000 --> 01:23:31,040 Ted, I don't know why long time no see how you've been. 1028 01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:34,080 I've been good, I don't know why you've been good. 1029 01:23:34,120 --> 01:23:35,700 Joe, Mayor Losa. 1030 01:23:36,920 --> 01:23:37,500 Council members. 1031 01:23:38,380 --> 01:23:43,820 Yeah, it's been a long time since I've been in front of the hearings. 1032 01:23:45,460 --> 01:23:46,880 I just have a question. 1033 01:23:47,780 --> 01:23:51,840 My name, if I had minor children, 1034 01:23:51,840 --> 01:23:55,820 etc. will be on this onboarding list. 1035 01:23:57,560 --> 01:24:12,440 How do we protect that list from being searched by, you know, illegal AI and using it to hack or get into our computers? 1036 01:24:12,440 --> 01:24:23,860 I'm a CPA, you know, I can't, but yeah, it has address, name, phone number, anything else? 1037 01:24:24,120 --> 01:24:25,300 A, enjoy a guess. 1038 01:24:28,900 --> 01:24:30,480 Thank you for your questions, sir. 1039 01:24:30,740 --> 01:24:34,440 So the registration software that we're developing is going to be managed internally. 1040 01:24:35,200 --> 01:24:37,200 So all of that will be housed in house. 1041 01:24:37,340 --> 01:24:41,460 So it won't be open to the public or searchable unless through staff. 1042 01:24:42,860 --> 01:24:52,000 Okay, well, search a little by step, somebody else, 1043 01:24:56,670 --> 01:24:57,630 anybody on Zoom? 1044 01:24:58,570 --> 01:24:59,970 We have one hand raise, ma'er. 1045 01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:00,640 Okay. 1046 01:25:08,940 --> 01:25:13,080 Hello, can you hear me? You can hear you. We can't see you, Joe. Hi. 1047 01:25:13,540 --> 01:25:22,600 Yeah, Joe, police, whom I live on loop in Hill Road. I don't know too much about this project. I understand these funds come from tax revenues. 1048 01:25:24,200 --> 01:25:36,600 But forgive me for asking such a simple question. But everything that was described in this package that you're developing, what is there in it that I can't just simply get off the phone. 1049 01:25:36,600 --> 01:25:39,300 I'm holding right now on the Zoom meeting or my laptop. 1050 01:25:40,480 --> 01:25:44,080 Why are all these funds being used to, 1051 01:25:44,080 --> 01:25:45,840 it seems create something that's 1052 01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:48,240 just readily available to anybody with an internet access. 1053 01:25:50,580 --> 01:25:53,600 And is any of this going, any of these $1.7 million, 1054 01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:57,520 if that's correct, as a figure, going towards infrastructure 1055 01:25:59,340 --> 01:26:03,060 to facilitate fiber optics that are internet, 1056 01:26:03,260 --> 01:26:04,700 anything like that for the community? 1057 01:26:07,140 --> 01:26:12,440 So I'll take the last part of it and then I'll give you the first part of the library funds 1058 01:26:12,440 --> 01:26:14,000 or to be used for the library. 1059 01:26:14,300 --> 01:26:20,900 They're not to be used for anything else and we are very careful in how we actually allocate funds. 1060 01:26:21,360 --> 01:26:23,600 So they are not going for any infrastructure projects. 1061 01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:30,640 Right, but just as you allocated some funds that are proportionate to the city managers 1062 01:26:30,640 --> 01:26:34,100 time that she would spend on this project, 1063 01:26:34,100 --> 01:26:37,380 wouldn't there be some sort of infrastructure 1064 01:26:37,380 --> 01:26:40,400 we'll need to be able to house this kind of bandwidth 1065 01:26:40,400 --> 01:26:41,480 that we're having? 1066 01:26:43,320 --> 01:26:47,640 And again, to that point, all this money, it seems to me 1067 01:26:47,640 --> 01:26:50,160 like we're building something that just basically has 1068 01:26:50,160 --> 01:26:53,620 a community registration aspect, but offers everything 1069 01:26:53,620 --> 01:26:57,360 that you can still get from any internet connection. 1070 01:26:58,260 --> 01:26:59,600 Do you like to think that? 1071 01:27:00,840 --> 01:27:02,640 Yes, sir, thank you for your question. 1072 01:27:02,640 --> 01:27:13,600 The Library Project itself does allow for subscription bases to be free and open to both the elementary school students, 1073 01:27:13,880 --> 01:27:19,760 all the SD school district students, the City of Hidden Hills, as well as the City of Calabassas. 1074 01:27:20,180 --> 01:27:31,780 So programs that are typically on a monthly basis or registration software will now be free and available to the community and to the users through this process. 1075 01:27:34,920 --> 01:27:47,180 But if you search on Google, let's say AI will still give you a very thorough detail to answer with follow up questions and options, and that doesn't cost anything. 1076 01:27:49,240 --> 01:28:03,680 The AI library will also offer courses, so it will allow people to start a program or a course that you're interested in learning in, be able to step away, come back, and then re-engage in the program at a later date. 1077 01:28:03,680 --> 01:28:08,920 It will also be set up to set reminders so in case you haven't logged in in a couple of weeks. 1078 01:28:09,280 --> 01:28:14,140 We'll check in and make sure everything's okay and be able to really see if you're still interested in this program 1079 01:28:14,140 --> 01:28:20,740 or this core concept that you were researching and also be able to make recommendations for future lessons. 1080 01:28:22,900 --> 01:28:23,040 Okay. 1081 01:28:25,120 --> 01:28:26,080 Thank you. 1082 01:28:26,480 --> 01:28:27,380 Thanks for your questions. 1083 01:28:27,800 --> 01:28:29,480 Anybody else on Zoom? 1084 01:28:31,590 --> 01:28:32,010 No, Mayor. 1085 01:28:32,010 --> 01:28:50,650 Okay. Thank you, ever. We will now move to the consent calendar. All items on the consent calendar are considered routine and may be approved by single motion unless a council member request an item be removed for separate discussion. Council members are there any items you would like to 1086 01:28:54,940 --> 01:28:55,300 see. 1087 01:28:55,300 --> 01:28:56,140 Here you go. 1088 01:28:56,720 --> 01:28:56,740 Sir? 1089 01:28:58,100 --> 01:28:59,320 I'll come back for me once second. 1090 01:28:59,540 --> 01:29:00,620 I want to make sure. 1091 01:29:01,180 --> 01:29:01,940 You were last. 1092 01:29:02,400 --> 01:29:02,920 Or what? 1093 01:29:03,080 --> 01:29:03,360 Yeah. 1094 01:29:07,680 --> 01:29:09,760 So all the layers are all the layers long as I can. 1095 01:29:09,820 --> 01:29:10,500 Sorry, Larry. 1096 01:29:11,680 --> 01:29:12,660 I think you're not there. 1097 01:29:14,200 --> 01:29:14,480 I know. 1098 01:29:14,820 --> 01:29:16,600 I do not need to pull anything off. 1099 01:29:16,840 --> 01:29:17,120 Okay. 1100 01:29:17,420 --> 01:29:20,660 Is there anybody in the audience wishing to comment on the consent calendar? 1101 01:29:31,890 --> 01:29:32,290 Okay. 1102 01:29:33,630 --> 01:29:34,410 Consent calendar. 1103 01:29:34,410 --> 01:29:41,050 there. There are minutes being presented for March, thank you for presenting the minutes. 1104 01:29:41,230 --> 01:29:45,930 There are meetings minutes being presented for March 2nd that just say amended and I think 1105 01:29:45,930 --> 01:29:53,610 it is worthwhile to mention why they're being amended since they weren't redlined. In addition, 1106 01:29:56,090 --> 01:29:59,970 So sorry, wait a minute, okay, on demands and disperse. 1107 01:30:01,680 --> 01:30:22,260 And maybe it's because we've had zero snakes and hymns for July and August. But I have asked before what some spending was for, I think, in July, when I was here, I asked about some spending that was not answered and then subsequently voted to be approved. 1108 01:30:22,260 --> 01:30:41,280 And so in this case, I'd like to ask if the city council has looked at the individual items on the register of disbursements and if they would like to identify what snake boots for $1523 was snake boot replacement for another $1,000. 1109 01:30:41,280 --> 01:30:47,200 a press release from CISN for public information. 1110 01:30:47,480 --> 01:30:48,460 It was $2,300. 1111 01:30:49,640 --> 01:30:50,060 I looked. 1112 01:30:50,180 --> 01:30:53,140 I couldn't find a press release from around that time. 1113 01:30:54,400 --> 01:31:02,660 As well as I just if you have looked at and approve all these things, 1114 01:31:04,060 --> 01:31:08,220 there's two times the same amount of water for the goats water, 1115 01:31:08,220 --> 01:31:14,560 the exact same amount. I know that runs on a meter. So it surprises me that it's the exact same amount. 1116 01:31:15,640 --> 01:31:20,180 Again, we have paid training where we used to have free search training. 1117 01:31:20,860 --> 01:31:24,380 And then Council Member Gold has put in for travel miles. 1118 01:31:24,720 --> 01:31:29,920 And I presume that's for a 70 between 72 and 76 cents per mile. 1119 01:31:30,080 --> 01:31:32,920 That comes out to about 945 miles. 1120 01:31:32,920 --> 01:31:40,760 So it doesn't say the timeframe for that but I would really note like to know about snake boots 1121 01:31:43,990 --> 01:31:48,310 and I'd like to know if you're aware of what snake boots are 1122 01:31:48,310 --> 01:31:54,150 I think there's a history of some odd things in the thing and in July. I asked about 1123 01:31:55,750 --> 01:32:00,310 Spending for someone to do grants and I never got an answer on that, but 1124 01:32:00,310 --> 01:32:04,690 That night even though you could provide an answer you went ahead and voted for it 1125 01:32:04,690 --> 01:32:11,090 So I'd like to know that you're comfortable with spending over $5,500 on Snake Boots. 1126 01:32:12,430 --> 01:32:13,850 Thank you so much for your questions. 1127 01:32:13,970 --> 01:32:17,970 I just like to address the question about the mileage that I submitted. 1128 01:32:18,470 --> 01:32:25,330 I gave a list of events and conferences and meetings I attended on behalf of the city and 1129 01:32:25,330 --> 01:32:28,570 it's just a testament to how much I work for the city. 1130 01:32:29,350 --> 01:32:31,710 This is how many miles I drove. 1131 01:32:31,710 --> 01:32:45,390 I go and represent the city in all kinds of meetings, all kinds of conferences, I take this job really seriously, takes a lot of my time, and maybe it's shocking how much time I spend, but it's the truth. 1132 01:32:46,110 --> 01:32:51,250 And I have everything documented, so this is how much I work for the city, yes. 1133 01:32:54,040 --> 01:32:58,400 It's, yeah, it's, it's, Steph has all the details. 1134 01:33:01,630 --> 01:33:07,250 Okay, I'm sure the most anticipated answer in the evening was going to be, because I literally 1135 01:33:07,250 --> 01:33:10,130 asked this question, what are some inquiries? 1136 01:33:11,910 --> 01:33:16,210 So, I know if they are, but never we just answered the question of why, what are snake boots 1137 01:33:16,210 --> 01:33:17,490 and why we needed them? 1138 01:33:18,150 --> 01:33:18,810 Yes, sir. 1139 01:33:19,530 --> 01:33:23,990 There are PPE equipment, so personal protective equipment for our staff when they go out 1140 01:33:23,990 --> 01:33:24,630 into the field. 1141 01:33:24,630 --> 01:33:30,370 Most importantly, staff was going out to check on the goats and being in the canyon. 1142 01:33:31,090 --> 01:33:33,710 It is a area where snakes are prevalent. 1143 01:33:34,290 --> 01:33:40,730 So snake boots were purchased for their protection, and after having the fire chief 1144 01:33:40,730 --> 01:33:45,710 be able to describe the rattlesnake concerns here in our community, it was felt at best 1145 01:33:45,710 --> 01:33:47,990 to protect the staff in that sense. 1146 01:33:51,380 --> 01:33:51,730 Thank you. 1147 01:33:51,730 --> 01:33:55,170 Okay. Any other comments on the consent calendar? 1148 01:33:57,820 --> 01:34:01,940 Is there anybody on Zoom that wants to make a... 1149 01:34:01,940 --> 01:34:03,000 No, hands raised, Mayor. 1150 01:34:03,260 --> 01:34:06,540 Okay. Can I have a motion to approve the consent calendar? 1151 01:34:10,580 --> 01:34:12,580 To approve the consent calendar. 1152 01:34:13,080 --> 01:34:13,260 Second. 1153 01:34:14,600 --> 01:34:15,900 Dean, can we have a roll call? 1154 01:34:16,920 --> 01:34:18,420 Of course. Councilmember Weber? 1155 01:34:19,040 --> 01:34:19,320 Yes. 1156 01:34:19,960 --> 01:34:20,840 Councilmember Gold? 1157 01:34:21,400 --> 01:34:21,620 Yes. 1158 01:34:22,840 --> 01:34:23,780 Mayor Protem Seagull? 1159 01:34:24,240 --> 01:34:24,520 Yes. 1160 01:34:24,520 --> 01:34:31,780 Mayor Losa. Yes. Okay. Motion carries. Thank you. Now I have to 1161 01:34:31,780 --> 01:34:34,640 recuse myself from six. Okay. 1162 01:34:39,130 --> 01:34:42,270 So I can make a quick 1163 01:34:42,270 --> 01:34:44,270 announcement. I understand that two council members have 1164 01:34:44,270 --> 01:34:47,830 conflicts on six A because of the location of their property 1165 01:34:47,830 --> 01:34:50,410 to the site and with the absence of council member 1166 01:34:50,410 --> 01:34:52,790 McCorken, Dale tonight. We don't have a quorum to hear 1167 01:34:52,790 --> 01:34:55,670 this item, so this item will have to be continued to the next meeting. 1168 01:35:03,700 --> 01:35:10,880 Okay, we now will move on to item. Are we under at time, crunch on this item? 1169 01:35:13,840 --> 01:35:18,120 Thank you for the question, and yes, it will be important to take it to the next meeting. 1170 01:35:24,890 --> 01:35:30,910 Okay, we will now move on to item 6b under old business, the award of professional services agreement to trip epic Smith, 1171 01:35:30,910 --> 01:35:35,970 for AI digital design standards and launch marketing services. 1172 01:35:36,750 --> 01:35:39,810 See acting city manager serve and please present the report. 1173 01:35:40,770 --> 01:35:42,990 Good evening, Mayor and members of the city council. 1174 01:35:43,190 --> 01:35:46,930 Item six B recommends that the city council authorized the city manager 1175 01:35:46,930 --> 01:35:49,670 to execute a professional services agreement, 1176 01:35:50,050 --> 01:35:52,950 which are peppy Smith for the AI digital library design, 1177 01:35:53,210 --> 01:35:55,990 standards and launch marketing services. 1178 01:35:56,630 --> 01:35:59,130 As background, the scope was originally part of a large 1179 01:35:59,130 --> 01:36:04,290 design services proposal that the city council previously considered, the council directed 1180 01:36:04,290 --> 01:36:10,190 staff to return it to the consultant to narrow the project scope to just the AI Digital 1181 01:36:10,190 --> 01:36:15,230 Library piece. With that option to add the remaining pieces back in later if required. 1182 01:36:15,990 --> 01:36:20,770 Drip-Epee Smith returned with a revised proposal limited to AI Digital Library work, 1183 01:36:21,130 --> 01:36:27,690 since this is now a standalone project, the project management cost reflect 1,587 dollars increase 1184 01:36:27,690 --> 01:36:30,950 bringing the total project to $14,290. 1185 01:36:32,030 --> 01:36:33,950 There is no general fund impact. 1186 01:36:34,150 --> 01:36:36,290 The Library Fund will absorb the full cost, 1187 01:36:36,650 --> 01:36:39,090 including the 5% contingency that staff recommends. 1188 01:36:39,590 --> 01:36:42,950 A total contract amount not to exceed $15,000, 1189 01:36:43,250 --> 01:36:43,910 $4.50. 1190 01:36:44,930 --> 01:36:47,490 Staff recommends that the City Council authorizes the City 1191 01:36:47,490 --> 01:36:50,030 Manager to execute this agreement, 1192 01:36:50,430 --> 01:36:52,050 which her peppy Smith in that amount. 1193 01:36:52,370 --> 01:36:53,950 I'm happy to answer any questions. 1194 01:36:56,120 --> 01:36:57,500 Any questions from Council? 1195 01:37:01,880 --> 01:37:05,000 Any questions from anybody in the audience? 1196 01:37:07,600 --> 01:37:08,660 Any questions on Zoom? 1197 01:37:08,820 --> 01:37:10,240 There are no hands raised, Mayor. 1198 01:37:11,440 --> 01:37:11,660 Okay. 1199 01:37:12,260 --> 01:37:13,100 Do we have a motion? 1200 01:37:14,720 --> 01:37:17,340 I'll make a motion that we award the contract, 1201 01:37:17,640 --> 01:37:20,680 Treppie Smith, for AI Digital Design Standards, 1202 01:37:20,920 --> 01:37:21,560 for the contract. 1203 01:37:22,560 --> 01:37:22,860 Second. 1204 01:37:25,190 --> 01:37:27,430 City Clerk, Gonzales, can we have a roll call? 1205 01:37:28,450 --> 01:37:28,710 Yes. 1206 01:37:28,710 --> 01:37:30,150 Council Member Weber? Yes. 1207 01:37:30,810 --> 01:37:32,090 Council Member Gold? Yes. 1208 01:37:32,570 --> 01:37:34,370 Mayor Potent Seagull? Yes. 1209 01:37:34,950 --> 01:37:36,110 And Mayor Loja. Yes. 1210 01:37:37,870 --> 01:37:49,810 Okay. Motion passes. We will now move to item seven A under new business adoption of administrative policies regarding city council agenda's governance records and personnel matters. 1211 01:37:50,090 --> 01:37:52,150 City Attorney Langer, please present the report. 1212 01:37:52,850 --> 01:37:58,010 He's a good evening. I'll give the report on item seven A this evening which is proposed 1213 01:37:58,010 --> 01:38:00,610 to adopt resolution number 1065. 1214 01:38:03,190 --> 01:38:06,370 Over the past several years, the city has it updated its 1215 01:38:06,370 --> 01:38:10,510 personnel rules and administrative practices. And as the city prepares for a transition 1216 01:38:10,510 --> 01:38:15,890 to a new city council, this is an appropriate time to memorialize additional best practices 1217 01:38:15,890 --> 01:38:21,210 to promote accountability, communication, continuity, and the proper stewardship of public 1218 01:38:21,210 --> 01:38:26,290 resources. The policies are forward looking and they supplement existing law, the city's 1219 01:38:26,290 --> 01:38:30,650 municipal code, the city's personnel rules, and other adopted policies. They do not 1220 01:38:30,650 --> 01:38:36,070 make changes to the fundamental allocation of responsibilities. The city council always establishes 1221 01:38:36,070 --> 01:38:40,450 policy and provides oversight while in a city manager form of government, the city manager 1222 01:38:40,450 --> 01:38:46,170 remains responsible for administering day-to-day city operations and these policies set forth 1223 01:38:46,810 --> 01:38:52,530 best practices and expectations for how to best do that work, especially in a unique city 1224 01:38:52,530 --> 01:38:53,370 like Hidden Hills. 1225 01:38:54,490 --> 01:38:56,970 The proposed policies really fall into three categories. 1226 01:38:57,770 --> 01:39:01,410 First there are agenda protocols intended to improve planning and transparency. 1227 01:39:01,890 --> 01:39:06,330 There have been some discussions recently about the best way to use the consent calendar. 1228 01:39:06,710 --> 01:39:08,530 What should go on regular agenda items? 1229 01:39:08,690 --> 01:39:09,030 What shouldn't? 1230 01:39:09,250 --> 01:39:14,150 So these policies are intended to promote the best practices and to make sure that the council 1231 01:39:14,150 --> 01:39:19,350 in the community understand where things will be placed on the agenda, so staff can appropriately 1232 01:39:19,350 --> 01:39:25,550 put forth city council agendas. They require timely and legally compliant agenda 1233 01:39:25,550 --> 01:39:31,010 packets provide opportunity for the mayor to review draft agendas before posting and make 1234 01:39:31,010 --> 01:39:37,430 sure that certain items have received appropriate city attorney legal review and that certain 1235 01:39:37,430 --> 01:39:42,590 items receive review by city council subcommittees who may have purview over specific topic 1236 01:39:42,590 --> 01:39:46,810 and we want to make sure that the Council is informed before those items end up on an agenda. 1237 01:39:47,510 --> 01:39:54,150 There's procedures to properly report vendor selection practices and expenditures to establish 1238 01:39:54,150 --> 01:39:56,350 an annual priority setting process. 1239 01:39:56,930 --> 01:39:59,970 Earlier, Council review of the draft budget is recognized. 1240 01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:07,160 Commended annual confirmation of city council subcommittees and monthly updates on council goals at the public city council meetings. 1241 01:40:07,900 --> 01:40:15,940 There are some policies on governance and records to strengthen internal controls requiring to ensure that there's legal review of contracts. 1242 01:40:16,460 --> 01:40:27,640 Again, consultation with subcommittees and quarterly reporting of staff level decisions and expenditures and contracts that are approved and monthly reporting of city manager authorized expenditures. 1243 01:40:27,640 --> 01:40:32,600 They also require a city business to be conducted through city controlled devices, accounts, 1244 01:40:32,780 --> 01:40:37,640 applications, and vendor accounts, whenever reasonably available that helps ensure that all 1245 01:40:37,640 --> 01:40:42,700 the records are maintained in the appropriate places, and that they can be easily accessed when 1246 01:40:42,700 --> 01:40:43,040 needed. 1247 01:40:43,560 --> 01:40:47,900 And in today's digital world, things aren't maintained in a variety of different accounts and a variety 1248 01:40:47,900 --> 01:40:48,680 of different places. 1249 01:40:49,180 --> 01:40:55,140 It's a best practice to make sure that city business is done on city accounts. 1250 01:40:55,960 --> 01:41:00,980 There are some personnel provisions that reflect the operational needs of a very small city, 1251 01:41:01,860 --> 01:41:06,300 expectations for the city manager being involved in the day-to-day work and operations 1252 01:41:06,300 --> 01:41:11,840 of the city, really a focus on staff being present at City Hall so that they can serve the 1253 01:41:11,840 --> 01:41:17,620 City Council and serve the residents, and really be available to the community, notice 1254 01:41:17,620 --> 01:41:22,600 when the city manager is not going to be available, designation of an acting city manager, 1255 01:41:23,360 --> 01:41:28,180 And clarify communication protocols, the best way to communicate between council members, 1256 01:41:28,360 --> 01:41:35,340 city manager, staff, the community, and other organizations that the city does a lot of work with. 1257 01:41:35,420 --> 01:41:38,080 It's important that those relationships are maintained. 1258 01:41:40,420 --> 01:41:44,840 How the city council should interact with staff versus how they should interact with the city manager, 1259 01:41:44,840 --> 01:41:50,660 our address, and establishing regular council member meetings and agenda briefings, 1260 01:41:50,660 --> 01:42:02,920 Project tracking requirements weekly reports the council of emerging issues so they know what's happening with the residents and what residents are concerned about is being reported timely to the city council so it's really about 1261 01:42:04,020 --> 01:42:04,580 Continuing 1262 01:42:05,300 --> 01:42:18,660 Existing practices memorializing them and implementing best practices for continuity and to make sure that forward looking the city is implementing the best practices and policies that it can so it's really a positive document that's being proposed to 1263 01:42:18,660 --> 01:42:26,800 to memorialize how the city has been functioning and make sure that that can continue as you move into a moment of transition over the next few months. 1264 01:42:27,240 --> 01:42:28,120 That concludes my report. 1265 01:42:28,400 --> 01:42:30,760 Thank you. Any questions from Council? 1266 01:42:31,720 --> 01:42:38,040 No, I think it sounds like a real good idea. It's always nice to fine tune, which is what the sounds like. 1267 01:42:39,420 --> 01:42:41,620 And, you know, to get things into the best practices. 1268 01:42:45,300 --> 01:42:48,020 I love that we are memorializing all these things. 1269 01:42:48,260 --> 01:42:52,640 I know that some of it my sound, of course, yeah, everybody knows, but it's nice to have 1270 01:42:52,640 --> 01:42:57,640 it together in one place since we are going to get three council members and I think this 1271 01:42:57,640 --> 01:42:59,160 is going to help them to be successful. 1272 01:43:00,800 --> 01:43:05,080 Yeah, as reading Documents Go, it was one of the better ones I've had to read. 1273 01:43:06,420 --> 01:43:07,300 Thank you. 1274 01:43:08,000 --> 01:43:08,020 Okay. 1275 01:43:08,020 --> 01:43:10,620 Any questions from the audience? 1276 01:43:15,830 --> 01:43:21,070 Well, this is a glorious document addressing a lot of things that I've been at this podium 1277 01:43:21,070 --> 01:43:23,150 about over the last couple of years. 1278 01:43:23,970 --> 01:43:30,270 I just have a question in that there's a certain specificity to it that I'm concerned 1279 01:43:30,270 --> 01:43:36,310 that if you have said this, this and this, but it may be a broader scope. 1280 01:43:36,310 --> 01:43:42,990 Are you creating a trap where a more general statement would be appropriate? 1281 01:43:44,990 --> 01:43:52,710 An example would be where you talk about the various vendor accounts, I think, Costco staples, 1282 01:43:53,350 --> 01:43:55,830 UberEats or similar vendors. 1283 01:43:56,450 --> 01:43:59,170 I didn't know if that was general enough of a thing. 1284 01:43:59,270 --> 01:44:05,330 I mean, we saw in the reports a lot of like lunches and things like that ordered, it just, 1285 01:44:05,330 --> 01:44:11,490 It seemed, I know, like with my own personal business stuff, I have, like, an errors and 1286 01:44:11,490 --> 01:44:18,190 emissions thing that is broader than this is in some, in some of those instances. 1287 01:44:18,890 --> 01:44:25,570 And then it's great to have a city manager goal to have them in the city office, which would 1288 01:44:25,570 --> 01:44:26,150 be great. 1289 01:44:26,850 --> 01:44:32,430 But point five, if an early city meeting is scheduled, such as an E30 cog, the expectations 1290 01:44:32,430 --> 01:44:36,770 is the city manager will either report the city hall before the meeting when reason we 1291 01:44:36,770 --> 01:44:41,730 apply practical report afterwards, it's kind of in conflict with nine to five hours. 1292 01:44:42,450 --> 01:44:50,090 And then the only other thing I would suggest is that the city manager is familiar with the 1293 01:44:50,090 --> 01:44:57,930 roads, the facilities, the ingress, and egress points, the trail points of the community, 1294 01:44:57,930 --> 01:44:59,970 and that while being 1295 01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:07,200 Hearing here within the city, you say I believe present at City Hall, but I think there are times 1296 01:45:07,200 --> 01:45:12,700 when it's actually would be really valuable to have the city manager out and seeing things. 1297 01:45:13,120 --> 01:45:20,760 So I don't know if that's too narrow of a thing of restriction, where if the city manager were in the city 1298 01:45:20,760 --> 01:45:28,920 and having familiarity with access that it would be a good use in a valuable use of someone's 1299 01:45:28,920 --> 01:45:29,340 time. 1300 01:45:30,680 --> 01:45:38,200 But these are great and positive way to move forward and a gift to the new city council members. 1301 01:45:42,040 --> 01:45:46,360 Anybody else in the audience? Anybody on Zoom? 1302 01:45:46,560 --> 01:45:48,020 No hands of raise mayor. 1303 01:45:54,400 --> 01:45:55,040 Great. 1304 01:45:55,040 --> 01:45:56,580 I'm sorry, I need a motion. 1305 01:45:58,320 --> 01:45:59,020 I'm sure. 1306 01:45:59,400 --> 01:45:59,540 Yes. 1307 01:46:00,540 --> 01:46:10,480 I recommend that the City Council adopt resolution number 1065, which I don't need to redo it. 1308 01:46:10,760 --> 01:46:11,040 No. 1309 01:46:12,640 --> 01:46:13,520 I need to redo it. 1310 01:46:14,160 --> 01:46:14,380 Second. 1311 01:46:15,120 --> 01:46:16,420 Can we have a roll call? 1312 01:46:17,540 --> 01:46:17,720 Yes. 1313 01:46:18,000 --> 01:46:18,480 Council member Weber? 1314 01:46:18,820 --> 01:46:19,200 Yes. 1315 01:46:19,660 --> 01:46:20,500 Council member Gold? 1316 01:46:20,600 --> 01:46:20,960 Yes. 1317 01:46:21,460 --> 01:46:22,460 May I pretend to see a call? 1318 01:46:22,540 --> 01:46:22,880 Yes. 1319 01:46:26,160 --> 01:46:37,880 Okay, we will now move on to item 7B under a new business consideration of approval of professional services agreement with Pico party rents for the hidden hills fiesta rentals. 1320 01:46:38,740 --> 01:46:41,500 Acting city manager, servant, please present the report. 1321 01:46:42,380 --> 01:46:44,260 Good evening, Mayor and members of the city council. 1322 01:46:44,500 --> 01:46:52,800 Item 7B recommends that the city council authorized the city manager to negotiate an executed agreement with Pico party rents for the event rents with 1323 01:46:52,800 --> 01:46:55,940 equipment and related services for the city's annual fiesta. 1324 01:46:56,620 --> 01:47:01,320 As background, the fiesta requires tending, flooring, seating, lighting, power, 1325 01:47:01,820 --> 01:47:06,280 restroom facilities, and related site infrastructure to support the main-tended areas, 1326 01:47:06,880 --> 01:47:09,040 south tennis courts, and the main arena. 1327 01:47:09,820 --> 01:47:15,520 Because of the total contract amount exceeds the city manager's informal bidding threshold, 1328 01:47:16,020 --> 01:47:18,360 formal city council authorization is required. 1329 01:47:18,360 --> 01:47:25,480 Staff solicited proposals from three qualified vendors and evaluated each for scope, qualifications, and price. 1330 01:47:26,180 --> 01:47:30,780 Staff selected Pico party rents to furnish the full event rental package, including 1331 01:47:30,780 --> 01:47:36,620 10 team flooring tables, chairs, linens, lighting, generator and power distribution as well as 1332 01:47:36,620 --> 01:47:41,920 restroom trailers, along with delivery installation and removal of all equipment. 1333 01:47:41,920 --> 01:47:45,860 There is no general, additional general fund impact. 1334 01:47:46,160 --> 01:47:53,760 Funding is available in the adopted fiscal year 2627 special events, FESA appropriation, and 1335 01:47:53,760 --> 01:48:01,260 staff recommends a contract amount not to exceed 66,000, $327 and 76 cents. 1336 01:48:01,600 --> 01:48:05,740 Staff recommends that the City Council authorizes the City Manager to negotiate and execute 1337 01:48:05,740 --> 01:48:10,680 this agreement with Peacoparty Rents in that amount, and that concludes my presentation. 1338 01:48:13,400 --> 01:48:15,000 Any questions from Council? 1339 01:48:15,800 --> 01:48:16,400 Yes. 1340 01:48:17,100 --> 01:48:18,860 I would like to see it. 1341 01:48:18,880 --> 01:48:21,340 I know that sometimes it's there, and sometimes it isn't. 1342 01:48:21,980 --> 01:48:29,580 But for this amount of money, it would be nice to see a little spreadsheet showing the three 1343 01:48:29,580 --> 01:48:37,740 Bitter top bidders and the prices, and maybe sometimes there's an obvious reason why you pick one over the other. 1344 01:48:37,740 --> 01:48:43,160 even if it wasn't a little bitter, but I think I'd like to see a little more detail. 1345 01:48:43,780 --> 01:48:48,280 And I know that it does exist sometimes, as some of you said. 1346 01:48:48,540 --> 01:48:49,280 Yes, sir. 1347 01:48:51,630 --> 01:48:51,750 Okay. 1348 01:48:51,910 --> 01:48:52,790 Council Member Gold. 1349 01:48:55,780 --> 01:48:57,220 Council Member Woodler. 1350 01:48:57,460 --> 01:48:58,200 No questions. 1351 01:48:59,420 --> 01:49:01,820 Anybody in the audience have any questions? 1352 01:49:03,500 --> 01:49:04,380 Anybody on Zoom? 1353 01:49:04,740 --> 01:49:05,920 There are no hands raised, Mayor. 1354 01:49:05,920 --> 01:49:12,120 I just have one quick one before we fast promotion and these contracts and reviewed by 1355 01:49:12,120 --> 01:49:12,500 legal. 1356 01:49:13,640 --> 01:49:17,080 And we've covered liability clauses. 1357 01:49:18,400 --> 01:49:18,600 Yes. 1358 01:49:19,240 --> 01:49:21,660 It was reviewed by the City Attorney's Office. 1359 01:49:21,940 --> 01:49:22,200 Okay. 1360 01:49:22,400 --> 01:49:23,040 Thank you. 1361 01:49:23,060 --> 01:49:25,420 Do I have a motion to approve? 1362 01:49:26,280 --> 01:49:33,060 I'd like a motion that we consider and approve a professional service agreement with 1363 01:49:33,060 --> 01:49:41,320 We call party rents for the Hidden Hills Vesta and do I need to put the amount in or 1364 01:49:41,320 --> 01:49:42,960 just prove the S with the contract. 1365 01:49:45,360 --> 01:49:46,440 Do you have a second? 1366 01:49:46,800 --> 01:49:47,100 Second. 1367 01:49:48,260 --> 01:49:49,760 Dean, can we have a roll call vote? 1368 01:49:50,380 --> 01:49:51,220 Council member Weber? 1369 01:49:52,240 --> 01:49:53,100 Council member Gold? 1370 01:49:53,600 --> 01:49:53,720 Yes. 1371 01:49:54,100 --> 01:49:55,120 Mayor Potem Seekle? 1372 01:49:55,180 --> 01:49:55,500 Yes. 1373 01:49:56,020 --> 01:49:56,600 And Mayor Loja. 1374 01:49:58,440 --> 01:49:59,520 Okay, motion passes. 1375 01:50:14,500 --> 01:50:26,920 Good evening, Mayor and members of the City Council. Item 7C recommends that the council authorized the city manager to negotiate an executed agreement with the cat's craft barbecue for the catering services for the city's fiesta. 1376 01:50:26,920 --> 01:50:32,580 As background catering has historically been the centerpiece of the Fiesta, and staff solicited 1377 01:50:32,580 --> 01:50:37,580 proposals from three catering companies in accordance with the city's bidding requirements. 1378 01:50:38,420 --> 01:50:42,620 Catscraft Barbecue was selected based on its proposed menu, which best fit the desired 1379 01:50:42,620 --> 01:50:47,860 theme for the event, along with its ability to provide on-site cooking, additional amenities such 1380 01:50:47,860 --> 01:50:53,000 as a French fry cart and corn dog cart and a drink station cart, as well as a well-developed 1381 01:50:53,000 --> 01:50:54,080 vegan menu. 1382 01:50:54,500 --> 01:51:00,800 Cats craft barbecue will furnish the catering services on October 17, including menu preparation, 1383 01:51:01,120 --> 01:51:05,400 cooking equipment, and fully staff food and beverage service throughout the time frame 1384 01:51:05,400 --> 01:51:06,040 of the event. 1385 01:51:06,720 --> 01:51:12,140 There is no additional general fund impact, funding is available in the adopt to 2627 fiscal 1386 01:51:12,140 --> 01:51:17,580 year, special events fiesta appropriation, and staff recommends a total contract amount not 1387 01:51:17,580 --> 01:51:20,580 with $6,766,825. 1388 01:51:21,540 --> 01:51:25,680 Staff recommends that the City Council authorized the City Manager to negotiate an execute 1389 01:51:25,680 --> 01:51:30,000 disagreement with Kat's craft barbecue in that amount that concludes my presentation. 1390 01:51:31,200 --> 01:51:32,700 Okay, any questions from council? 1391 01:51:33,980 --> 01:51:34,660 No, relation. 1392 01:51:38,670 --> 01:51:39,050 I'm sorry. 1393 01:51:39,210 --> 01:51:40,570 There is or sorry, there's not. 1394 01:51:41,390 --> 01:51:42,650 Special discount. 1395 01:51:46,300 --> 01:51:47,120 Any questions? 1396 01:51:48,280 --> 01:51:54,280 So, I have just two, one, you didn't ask for a contingency on here and almost everything else. 1397 01:51:54,400 --> 01:51:56,440 We always ask for a contingency. Why not? 1398 01:51:57,940 --> 01:52:07,100 This item was highly negotiated and we stayed within our budget, and we've also made it very clear to the caterer that we need to stay within our budget. 1399 01:52:07,100 --> 01:52:10,260 And then my second question, would you play more important? 1400 01:52:10,480 --> 01:52:11,640 How do we know this feedback? 1401 01:52:12,520 --> 01:52:17,780 They were found online, along with many other caterers, 1402 01:52:17,840 --> 01:52:20,140 and then we met with them on site, met in person. 1403 01:52:20,360 --> 01:52:21,500 They presented their items. 1404 01:52:22,080 --> 01:52:28,820 We called and reviewed various recommendations that came in, 1405 01:52:28,860 --> 01:52:31,380 and also other services that they've provided 1406 01:52:31,980 --> 01:52:33,420 in the surrounding area. 1407 01:52:33,560 --> 01:52:35,360 So when you say they presented their items, 1408 01:52:35,360 --> 01:52:38,900 did you taste them? No, there was not a tasting service. 1409 01:52:47,970 --> 01:52:49,350 Should we have tasted it? 1410 01:52:49,950 --> 01:52:55,550 I mean it doesn't make any sense. I'm sorry it to throw a wrench into this, but it 1411 01:52:56,370 --> 01:53:03,130 literally makes absolutely no sense to me that we're throwing a party in a $75,000 1412 01:53:03,130 --> 01:53:07,190 dinner and we're not we have no idea how they cook. 1413 01:53:12,460 --> 01:53:18,080 I'm happy to reach out to the 1414 01:53:18,080 --> 01:53:21,200 really something that they're quite used to? 1415 01:53:21,400 --> 01:53:24,460 Yes, they are used to doing tasty things. 1416 01:53:30,480 --> 01:53:32,760 So, anybody in the audience have any questions? 1417 01:53:33,800 --> 01:53:34,440 Go ahead Barbara. 1418 01:53:35,200 --> 01:53:38,860 I mean, haven't done weddings in five places before. 1419 01:53:39,960 --> 01:53:40,600 There are two things. 1420 01:53:40,840 --> 01:53:45,200 I noticed that the cater is in the residential street in Calabas, 1421 01:53:45,280 --> 01:53:46,200 this is in Parcosia. 1422 01:53:46,700 --> 01:53:49,560 Obviously, don't have a facility like a restaurant. 1423 01:53:50,260 --> 01:53:53,760 And do we have any refurls that people have ever used them? 1424 01:53:54,140 --> 01:53:56,980 Is the worst way to have a party is to have 1425 01:53:56,980 --> 01:54:00,060 Corporal food or horrible food and horrible service. 1426 01:54:00,280 --> 01:54:02,640 So are we sure that this is a reliable company? 1427 01:54:03,000 --> 01:54:04,060 Based on refurls. 1428 01:54:04,700 --> 01:54:07,260 Tasting, obviously, goes with the show, 1429 01:54:07,540 --> 01:54:09,140 but has anyone ever used them? 1430 01:54:09,200 --> 01:54:11,480 And they're out of the home, not out of this, 1431 01:54:11,480 --> 01:54:12,700 a restaurant, believe that. 1432 01:54:14,700 --> 01:54:15,300 Anybody else? 1433 01:54:16,300 --> 01:54:16,440 Glad? 1434 01:54:21,420 --> 01:54:21,700 Okay. 1435 01:54:21,800 --> 01:54:25,200 Mayor members of the City Council has this catering 1436 01:54:25,200 --> 01:54:29,920 vendor service, a previous hidden hills vesta, or had they serviceed any other hidden 1437 01:54:29,920 --> 01:54:33,840 hills city events such as the annual summer barbecues. 1438 01:54:34,140 --> 01:54:37,300 Well if I just I asked the question and we apparently don't know. 1439 01:54:42,500 --> 01:54:46,900 Okay, assuming they're still in business I'd say bring JVs back they did barbecues 1440 01:54:46,900 --> 01:54:51,420 and hidden hills all the way back in the late 2000s early 2010s but no idea if they still 1441 01:54:51,420 --> 01:54:52,000 exist. 1442 01:54:53,380 --> 01:54:53,860 Okay. 1443 01:54:53,860 --> 01:54:57,620 Anybody else in the audience? Anybody on Zoom? 1444 01:55:04,530 --> 01:55:08,450 How much of the cost is offset by ticket purchases? 1445 01:55:12,380 --> 01:55:13,600 The entire cost? 1446 01:55:15,910 --> 01:55:20,990 Well, the cost of the dinner is equal to the cost of 40 cents. 1447 01:55:21,430 --> 01:55:22,750 Yes, that was the direction. 1448 01:55:27,820 --> 01:55:28,000 Okay. 1449 01:55:28,860 --> 01:55:30,180 How much is the dinner? 1450 01:55:33,840 --> 01:55:33,980 $35? 1451 01:55:38,940 --> 01:55:39,080 Okay. 1452 01:55:40,520 --> 01:55:42,020 Is the in and out truck still coming? 1453 01:55:43,560 --> 01:55:46,000 I know, but I might need to order two. 1454 01:55:51,890 --> 01:55:58,810 I think the question is, do we have time now to put this off? 1455 01:55:59,550 --> 01:56:02,970 And to investigate further, are we to down to the wire now? 1456 01:56:08,220 --> 01:56:08,620 No. 1457 01:56:08,760 --> 01:56:13,020 We do not have time to put this off and to engage another catering company. 1458 01:56:13,740 --> 01:56:21,520 I am happy to schedule a tasting prior to executing the agreement and then making adjustments 1459 01:56:21,520 --> 01:56:27,040 to the menu until the committee is satisfied. 1460 01:56:33,850 --> 01:56:35,990 You know, Joe 1461 01:56:38,070 --> 01:56:39,910 and you and I are out to greeting people. 1462 01:56:40,450 --> 01:56:41,710 Yeah, we may have to run afterwards. 1463 01:56:42,950 --> 01:56:44,810 More than we greet people before they eat. 1464 01:56:45,010 --> 01:56:45,670 So we're in law. 1465 01:56:45,930 --> 01:56:47,050 We're in a way now. 1466 01:56:47,850 --> 01:56:48,030 Okay. 1467 01:56:48,850 --> 01:56:50,810 Do we have a motion to approve this? 1468 01:56:51,010 --> 01:56:52,510 Or do anybody on Zoom? 1469 01:56:53,430 --> 01:56:54,650 There are no hands raised, Mayor. 1470 01:56:54,850 --> 01:56:56,550 Okay, do we have a motion to approve this? 1471 01:56:58,060 --> 01:57:02,540 Yeah, I think we have to subject to a tasting. 1472 01:57:03,040 --> 01:57:05,060 Yes, subject to a tasting. 1473 01:57:06,480 --> 01:57:08,420 Otherwise, we're going to go to the Brett Ketsburg. 1474 01:57:08,660 --> 01:57:10,720 Are you making the motion? 1475 01:57:11,120 --> 01:57:11,260 Yes. 1476 01:57:11,840 --> 01:57:12,660 And I'll second it. 1477 01:57:12,660 --> 01:57:13,300 A second it? 1478 01:57:13,360 --> 01:57:14,080 Subject of the E. 1479 01:57:14,200 --> 01:57:16,000 Dana, can we have a roll call for? 1480 01:57:16,600 --> 01:57:17,440 Councilmember Weber? 1481 01:57:17,900 --> 01:57:18,260 Yes. 1482 01:57:18,680 --> 01:57:19,460 Councilmember Gold? 1483 01:57:20,380 --> 01:57:21,300 Maripotent Seagull? 1484 01:57:21,360 --> 01:57:21,660 Yes. 1485 01:57:22,120 --> 01:57:22,720 And Marilosa. 1486 01:57:23,320 --> 01:57:23,980 I have a stain. 1487 01:57:25,960 --> 01:57:26,760 Check it. 1488 01:57:29,980 --> 01:57:32,960 It's a growing last. 1489 01:57:36,180 --> 01:57:41,780 I spent too many years in the event business to hire a caterer that... 1490 01:57:41,780 --> 01:57:42,300 That's right. 1491 01:57:42,460 --> 01:57:43,660 I forgot which you came from. 1492 01:57:43,800 --> 01:57:45,360 Didn't you listen to the presentation? 1493 01:57:46,780 --> 01:57:51,920 They're serving six hours, six hours chicken. 1494 01:57:52,780 --> 01:57:53,040 Six? 1495 01:57:53,940 --> 01:57:56,580 Let me get to it now. 1496 01:57:59,720 --> 01:58:11,540 14 hours smoke brisket and six hours slow smoke chicken and it's being cooked out there, obviously. 1497 01:58:11,540 --> 01:58:15,220 All right, go for it. 1498 01:58:15,780 --> 01:58:17,240 You already voted. 1499 01:58:18,320 --> 01:58:24,320 We will now move to item 7D under new business consideration of the first reading of the proposed 1500 01:58:24,320 --> 01:58:24,740 award. 1501 01:58:45,660 --> 01:58:48,180 Good evening, Mayor and members of the City Council. 1502 01:58:48,420 --> 01:58:53,640 Item 7D recommends that the Council introduced an ordinance of ending chapters 8 and 13 of 1503 01:58:53,640 --> 01:58:58,680 Title 3 of the municipal code to update the city's construction site control and noise standards. 1504 01:58:58,680 --> 01:59:04,540 As background construction in Hidden Hills frequently occurs close to homes, roadways and 1505 01:59:04,540 --> 01:59:10,080 equestrian areas, the proposed ordinance consolidates construction site regulation into 1506 01:59:10,080 --> 01:59:15,040 Chapter 13, while Chapter 8 continues to cover general, non-construction noise. 1507 01:59:15,680 --> 01:59:20,260 The ordinance strength and site maintenance, fancy and active site requirements addresses 1508 01:59:20,260 --> 01:59:26,380 noise, idling, and desks, clarifies red flag warning restrictions, and as a draft hydrant 1509 01:59:26,380 --> 01:59:28,920 requirement for larger pools and water features. 1510 01:59:29,320 --> 01:59:33,080 It also preserves and hands-notes for major projects. 1511 01:59:34,200 --> 01:59:35,660 Staff recommends that the city council 1512 01:59:35,660 --> 01:59:38,340 wave the full reading and introduce the ordinance 1513 01:59:38,340 --> 01:59:39,640 by title only. 1514 01:59:40,360 --> 01:59:43,180 An ordinance of the city council of the city of Hidden Hills, 1515 01:59:43,780 --> 01:59:47,480 California, amending Chapter 8 and Chapter 13 of Title 3 1516 01:59:47,480 --> 01:59:50,080 of the Hidden Hills Municipal Code to establish 1517 01:59:50,080 --> 01:59:52,620 updated construction site control, noise, 1518 01:59:52,620 --> 01:59:56,220 notification, dust, fire safety, and enforcement standards. 1519 01:59:56,900 --> 01:59:59,960 The second reading and adoption would return to the City Council on October 2. 1520 02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:08,720 We're 13. I'm happy to answer any questions along with our building official Dennis who is also here to assist with any questions as well. 1521 02:00:10,790 --> 02:00:11,830 Any questions from council? 1522 02:00:12,530 --> 02:00:24,610 No, I had sort of anticipated this, that's why I brought up the draft hydrant question with through the Department. So, no, I'm not going to. 1523 02:00:24,610 --> 02:00:27,210 No question. 1524 02:00:28,070 --> 02:00:29,410 Anybody in the audience? 1525 02:00:32,560 --> 02:00:33,000 I 1526 02:00:35,110 --> 02:00:38,270 just like to say, it'd be nice to get some sort of red line. 1527 02:00:38,550 --> 02:00:39,930 Just so you understand what's changing. 1528 02:00:40,430 --> 02:00:45,610 If you don't take the existing document to know what it's changing too, I don't have the 1529 02:00:45,610 --> 02:00:48,590 ability to red it, but it's hard to understand what actually changed. 1530 02:00:49,230 --> 02:00:50,370 It wasn't clear to me. 1531 02:00:52,010 --> 02:00:53,230 Do you have a summary of my change? 1532 02:00:55,250 --> 02:00:56,730 Yes, Dennis does. 1533 02:00:59,870 --> 02:01:01,130 Good evening, Council. 1534 02:01:01,830 --> 02:01:03,470 I do have a summary of the changes. 1535 02:01:03,470 --> 02:01:08,490 There are many small nuances, more clarifications than changes. 1536 02:01:09,190 --> 02:01:14,730 What we try to do is take the noise provisions within Chapter 8, specifically for construction, 1537 02:01:15,410 --> 02:01:16,670 and move them to Chapter 13. 1538 02:01:16,910 --> 02:01:18,530 So it's more of a reorganization. 1539 02:01:19,350 --> 02:01:25,510 There are some updates which strengthens our ability to enforce some of these noise ordinance 1540 02:01:25,510 --> 02:01:28,010 dust ordinances, as well. 1541 02:01:28,010 --> 02:01:40,710 But mostly, it's just small changes that clarify definitions of who a responsible party is, who the builder is, and then organizes them in chapter 13. 1542 02:01:42,750 --> 02:01:43,450 Thank you. 1543 02:01:45,120 --> 02:01:45,360 Joe? 1544 02:01:46,180 --> 02:01:46,760 Yes, sir. 1545 02:01:48,520 --> 02:01:49,040 I... 1546 02:01:49,040 --> 02:01:50,120 I love it, Matt. 1547 02:01:50,120 --> 02:01:50,940 I think I'll go last. 1548 02:01:52,580 --> 02:01:54,520 No, I was going to say that I agree with Brett. 1549 02:01:55,100 --> 02:01:56,480 I think that... 1550 02:01:57,080 --> 02:02:05,560 I think it's probably for this type of thing, it's probably a great idea, as long as it already exists somewhere, 1551 02:02:06,440 --> 02:02:09,460 a red line copy at the back. 1552 02:02:09,560 --> 02:02:16,740 So those of us who want to or members of the audience want to see what changed. 1553 02:02:17,400 --> 02:02:22,840 We have sort of a generalized, you know, statement of different things. 1554 02:02:22,840 --> 02:02:25,580 But if we could do that in the future, it would be great. 1555 02:02:26,020 --> 02:02:30,200 As long as it already exists, okay? 1556 02:02:31,600 --> 02:02:32,160 Go ahead, nothing. 1557 02:02:32,280 --> 02:02:34,260 So my question is about enforcement. 1558 02:02:35,580 --> 02:02:42,420 So I have a picture today of the street cleaner who I contact the city and the HOA about on a regular basis. 1559 02:02:42,920 --> 02:02:46,200 I don't know if you can see it's huge cloud of dust behind it. 1560 02:02:46,340 --> 02:02:52,240 And this is the intersection of this guy barely ever putting the brushes down. 1561 02:02:52,240 --> 02:02:57,780 lack of water to clean it, but also he happened to just go by a construction site that has 1562 02:02:57,780 --> 02:03:05,500 loose dust poured out all over in front and into the street. But weekly, he is as bad as 1563 02:03:05,500 --> 02:03:14,380 any of the blowers in the community. And so I, and I feel like this is something Stuart frequently 1564 02:03:14,380 --> 02:03:20,960 says. It's no good having policies if you don't have a mechanism for enforcing it. 1565 02:03:20,960 --> 02:03:24,600 So, what happens with enforcement on this? 1566 02:03:24,820 --> 02:03:31,520 I think I've probably sent at least three things about the street cleaner, but I have also, 1567 02:03:32,460 --> 02:03:38,000 you know, there was a while where there was a guy driving around at the construction sites 1568 02:03:38,000 --> 02:03:38,880 in the morning. 1569 02:03:39,900 --> 02:03:42,640 I think he was in a city vehicle or something. 1570 02:03:43,780 --> 02:03:48,260 Anyway, he was looking and watching some of the construction sites for that. 1571 02:03:48,260 --> 02:04:02,900 But you call the AQMD and nothing happens, so I know there's an attention to dust blowing around and trying to prevent soil contaminants from getting into the air and I would like that to be enforced. 1572 02:04:06,130 --> 02:04:27,700 So, however, do you want to talk a little bit about our, well, how, how we are, what we are implementing to try to increase our compliance initiatives with all, the enforcement officer? 1573 02:04:29,620 --> 02:04:31,060 Yes, thank you, Mayor. 1574 02:04:31,960 --> 02:04:36,280 The city is currently working closely with Will Dam, 1575 02:04:36,760 --> 02:04:39,060 to bring in a code enforcement officer. 1576 02:04:39,960 --> 02:04:42,500 This will be somebody hopefully after the final reading 1577 02:04:42,500 --> 02:04:45,220 and the 30 day notification afterwards 1578 02:04:45,220 --> 02:04:49,200 before the code amendment is put into place 1579 02:04:49,200 --> 02:04:52,280 that will have somebody on board that will do exactly 1580 02:04:52,280 --> 02:04:55,980 as was described to really be out on the sites in the morning. 1581 02:04:56,780 --> 02:04:58,340 especially on red flag days, 1582 02:04:58,500 --> 02:04:59,980 be able to do the leaf blowers. 1583 02:05:00,050 --> 02:05:24,610 Also, our current building inspector is going through AQMD, fugitive dust training starting on Wednesday, so that will be a two-day course that he will be attending to be able to be more burst in AQMD terminology, so that when we do call in and report a site, we are using the correct terminology to really flag a problem and catch the attention of AQMD. 1584 02:05:28,830 --> 02:05:31,330 I believe the other comment was about street sweeping. 1585 02:05:34,490 --> 02:05:37,490 I believe the street sweeping is handled by the HOA sir. 1586 02:05:37,790 --> 02:05:46,810 So maybe we can make the call to them tomorrow to say, I would hope that we're not going to turn our HOA in for any violation. 1587 02:05:47,550 --> 02:05:51,290 Maybe you can directly talk to them. 1588 02:05:51,970 --> 02:05:53,250 I will discuss it with Aaron. 1589 02:05:53,310 --> 02:05:54,710 Thank you for bringing that to my attention. 1590 02:05:56,910 --> 02:05:58,950 Any other questions in the audience? 1591 02:06:00,710 --> 02:06:02,930 Anybody on Zoom? 1592 02:06:03,250 --> 02:06:04,550 No, hands raised, Mayor. 1593 02:06:04,990 --> 02:06:06,450 Okay, do I have a motion? 1594 02:06:08,550 --> 02:06:08,850 Yeah. 1595 02:06:11,670 --> 02:06:12,570 Do you have a second? 1596 02:06:13,810 --> 02:06:15,070 Yes, exactly. 1597 02:06:15,590 --> 02:06:16,810 Dean, can we have a roll call? 1598 02:06:17,530 --> 02:06:17,770 Yes. 1599 02:06:17,810 --> 02:06:18,650 Can't remember whoever? 1600 02:06:18,890 --> 02:06:19,210 Yes. 1601 02:06:19,730 --> 02:06:20,630 Can't remember gold? 1602 02:06:24,470 --> 02:06:25,350 May I put them sequel? 1603 02:06:25,510 --> 02:06:25,830 Yes. 1604 02:06:25,830 --> 02:06:27,670 And Mayor Lucha. 1605 02:06:35,280 --> 02:06:37,160 I think the motion passes. 1606 02:06:37,480 --> 02:06:43,740 We will now move on to item 7-E under new business consideration for authorization. 1607 02:06:44,640 --> 02:06:47,940 To reject all bids received on June 9th, 2026, 1608 02:06:48,160 --> 02:06:53,080 and authorization to re-appercise requests for proposals for architectural design services 1609 02:06:53,080 --> 02:06:57,380 for the City Hall landscape and hard-skate improvement project. 1610 02:06:58,080 --> 02:07:01,140 City Engineer, Michael Akerman, please present the report. 1611 02:07:05,900 --> 02:07:09,080 Thank you. 1612 02:07:10,000 --> 02:07:14,960 Item number seven, E is regarding City Hall landscape and hard-scape improvements. 1613 02:07:15,780 --> 02:07:20,960 On July 15, 2024, City Council received a presentation regarding City Hall building 1614 02:07:21,920 --> 02:07:26,880 renovation and City Hall exterior landscaping and hard-scape improvements. 1615 02:07:28,800 --> 02:07:35,020 On May 12, 2026, staff advertised a request for proposals for architectural design 1616 02:07:35,020 --> 02:07:43,220 services to prepare plans, specifications, and estimates, and a construction bid package for City Hall landscape and hardscape improvements. 1617 02:07:44,580 --> 02:07:49,800 On June 9th, 2026, staff received one proposal in response to the request for proposals. 1618 02:07:51,840 --> 02:08:02,220 After staff's careful review of proposals, and since the city did not receive enough competitive bids, staff is recommending to reject all bids received on June 9th, 2026, 1619 02:08:02,220 --> 02:08:09,960 And to re-advertise the request for proposals to establish a fair selection process and obtain competitive bids. 1620 02:08:12,180 --> 02:08:13,960 Staff recommends a city council author. 1621 02:08:14,140 --> 02:08:17,520 I staff to reject all bids received on June 9th, 2026. 1622 02:08:17,820 --> 02:08:21,920 And to re-advertise a city hall landscape and a hard-scape improvements project. 1623 02:08:22,400 --> 02:08:25,360 Request for proposals for architectural design services. 1624 02:08:26,140 --> 02:08:26,760 Thank you. 1625 02:08:33,720 --> 02:08:34,900 That concludes my report. 1626 02:08:34,900 --> 02:08:35,860 Thank you. 1627 02:08:35,860 --> 02:08:39,960 I just want to be sure that you have any council questions for Michael. 1628 02:08:40,140 --> 02:08:41,440 Not for me. 1629 02:08:44,120 --> 02:08:48,620 Why are we going to get more bids this time? 1630 02:08:50,340 --> 02:08:51,660 That's an excellent question. 1631 02:08:52,000 --> 02:08:52,840 Thank you. 1632 02:08:53,060 --> 02:08:54,800 We are going to do additional outreach. 1633 02:08:55,060 --> 02:08:56,620 We are going to post it on Planet Bids. 1634 02:08:56,820 --> 02:08:57,520 We're always through. 1635 02:08:57,520 --> 02:08:59,300 We'll post it on the city's website. 1636 02:09:00,100 --> 02:09:04,020 And we will reach out and do more outreach efforts to receive additional bids. 1637 02:09:04,020 --> 02:09:04,960 Why 1638 02:09:08,200 --> 02:09:11,440 didn't we get them? Why didn't it just not happen last time? 1639 02:09:14,390 --> 02:09:18,650 I do a lot of CIP projects and sometimes you get one bid and sometimes you get ten 1640 02:09:18,650 --> 02:09:26,250 bids and it's uncertain why if other contractors are busier or less busy and it also depends 1641 02:09:26,250 --> 02:09:31,870 on the time of the year if there is a bunch of holidays going on or it could have been the summer 1642 02:09:31,870 --> 02:09:37,050 and summer vacations. There's many reasons why bids may increase or decrease but we're hoping 1643 02:09:37,050 --> 02:09:39,370 for a better response with this advertisement. 1644 02:09:40,990 --> 02:09:41,650 Thank you. 1645 02:09:41,710 --> 02:09:43,950 Anybody in the audience would like to comment? 1646 02:09:45,350 --> 02:09:46,590 Anybody on Zoom? 1647 02:09:49,440 --> 02:09:50,780 There are no hands raised, Mayor. 1648 02:09:52,660 --> 02:09:57,320 We have a motion to reject all the visitors in June, 1926 and 1649 02:09:57,320 --> 02:09:59,300 So moved. 1650 02:10:00,400 --> 02:10:01,360 Second. 1651 02:10:02,820 --> 02:10:04,560 Do you think we have a roll call? 1652 02:10:04,800 --> 02:10:05,860 Councilmember Weber? 1653 02:10:06,280 --> 02:10:06,600 Yes. 1654 02:10:06,880 --> 02:10:07,720 Councilmember Gold? 1655 02:10:08,040 --> 02:10:09,460 Yes. Mayor Potem Sibel? 1656 02:10:09,700 --> 02:10:09,960 Yes. 1657 02:10:10,440 --> 02:10:11,040 And Mayor Losa? 1658 02:10:15,600 --> 02:10:18,520 Okay, we will now move to public comment. 1659 02:10:19,500 --> 02:10:25,600 This is the opportunity for members of the public to address the city council on items that are not on tonight's agenda. 1660 02:10:26,140 --> 02:10:27,880 Speakers are limited to three minutes. 1661 02:10:27,880 --> 02:10:38,160 But I would also like to remind everyone that under the ground at City Council cannot discuss or take action on items not on the agenda unless the matter qualifies as an emergency. 1662 02:10:38,960 --> 02:10:41,240 There are anyone in the audience who wishes to speak. 1663 02:10:48,860 --> 02:10:50,680 Good evening Mayor members of the City Council. 1664 02:10:51,740 --> 02:10:56,260 Thank you for allowing me to speak again about the city's use of flux safety automated license plate readers. 1665 02:10:57,080 --> 02:11:01,520 Since my previous comments, several new developments in California deserve the council's attention. 1666 02:11:01,520 --> 02:11:04,340 Perhaps the most relevant is Santa Barbara. 1667 02:11:04,960 --> 02:11:07,720 Last month, it's flat, flat contract ended. 1668 02:11:08,140 --> 02:11:10,440 The police department initially recommended replacing 1669 02:11:10,440 --> 02:11:12,460 Flock with another ALPR company, 1670 02:11:12,880 --> 02:11:16,160 but after public concerns about privacy, surveillance and data sharing, 1671 02:11:16,500 --> 02:11:19,620 the city council chose not to immediately enter another contract. 1672 02:11:20,160 --> 02:11:23,440 Instead, it decided to review the city's entire ALPR policy 1673 02:11:23,440 --> 02:11:24,880 before considering a replacement. 1674 02:11:25,780 --> 02:11:28,900 Santa Barbara didn't simply ask which company should we use instead. 1675 02:11:28,900 --> 02:11:33,420 It's step back and asked, should we have this type of surveillance system at all? 1676 02:11:34,180 --> 02:11:37,160 Also, Rito also voted not to renew its flock contract. 1677 02:11:37,540 --> 02:11:40,320 Its cameras are shut down in the city's removing them. 1678 02:11:40,760 --> 02:11:43,740 And Ventura and Oxnard provide an important lesson about safeguards. 1679 02:11:44,340 --> 02:11:51,000 Ventura discovered that a flock configuration air allowed two out-of-state agencies to query its system despite California only restrictions. 1680 02:11:51,700 --> 02:11:54,240 Ventura called this a violation of its agreement of flock. 1681 02:11:55,040 --> 02:11:56,680 Oxnard discovered a similar problem. 1682 02:11:56,680 --> 02:12:03,660 Despite configuring its system for California only access, a flock enable nationwide search function allowed out-of-state agencies 1683 02:12:03,660 --> 02:12:10,100 to include OXNAR data and searches, resulting in over 5 million inquiries in that city alone. 1684 02:12:10,760 --> 02:12:13,440 OXNAR subssequently suspended its 19 flock cameras. 1685 02:12:14,220 --> 02:12:18,100 These examples directly address the argument that safeguards make the system safe. 1686 02:12:18,700 --> 02:12:25,660 California does have safeguards, but safeguards on paper don't necessarily guarantee that the technology will operate according to those safeguards. 1687 02:12:25,660 --> 02:12:28,440 And this isn't limited to smaller communities. 1688 02:12:29,180 --> 02:12:32,380 In July, the LAPD allowed its plot contract to expire, 1689 02:12:32,820 --> 02:12:36,200 citing serious concerns involving civil liberties, privacy, 1690 02:12:36,580 --> 02:12:38,220 and the collection and sharing of data. 1691 02:12:38,880 --> 02:12:41,500 LAPD is one of the largest law enforcement agencies 1692 02:12:41,500 --> 02:12:44,720 in the country and our closest major law enforcement agency. 1693 02:12:45,680 --> 02:12:48,580 I've also heard the argument, our cell phones already track us. 1694 02:12:49,000 --> 02:12:50,960 But the Supreme Court has addressed that argument. 1695 02:12:51,360 --> 02:12:52,920 In Carpenter, University of the United States, 1696 02:12:52,920 --> 02:12:56,940 The Court held that obtaining historical cell site location information was a fourth amendment 1697 02:12:56,940 --> 02:13:00,000 search, even though the information was held by a third party. 1698 02:13:01,000 --> 02:13:04,920 And this year, in Chapter University of the United States, the Court held that obtained 1699 02:13:04,920 --> 02:13:09,260 in cell phone location information through a geo-fence warrant is also a fourth amendment 1700 02:13:09,260 --> 02:13:09,760 search. 1701 02:13:10,820 --> 02:13:13,760 Nivercase says that every ALPR system is on constitution. 1702 02:13:14,740 --> 02:13:18,720 But both demonstrate that the government's ability to obtain information about our movements 1703 02:13:18,720 --> 02:13:22,800 is not automatically unlimited simply because technology makes that information. 1704 02:13:22,800 --> 02:13:28,920 available. California's Constitution separately recognizes privacy as an inalatable right under article 1705 02:13:28,920 --> 02:13:34,260 one section one. So the question before this council is not whether ALPRs can help solve crimes. 1706 02:13:34,760 --> 02:13:38,100 The question is whether creating the searchable record of where people's vehicles travel 1707 02:13:38,100 --> 02:13:44,480 is worth the privacy, security, and oversight risks that accompany it. Just in today's meeting, 1708 02:13:45,480 --> 02:13:50,180 a resident expressed concerns about the AI library and the safeguards of our personal information. 1709 02:13:50,180 --> 02:13:54,380 it, just imagine this incident of personal information accessible during flock. 1710 02:13:55,060 --> 02:13:59,440 I respectfully ask the City Council to terminate Hill's flock contract, remove the existing 1711 02:13:59,440 --> 02:14:02,940 cameras, and the cleaner a place with another ALPR system. 1712 02:14:03,860 --> 02:14:04,820 Thank you. 1713 02:14:09,380 --> 02:14:10,420 Good night, Brett. 1714 02:14:11,380 --> 02:14:11,880 All right. 1715 02:14:12,080 --> 02:14:14,120 I brought this up before, but I never heard any response. 1716 02:14:14,300 --> 02:14:18,860 I'm just going to bring it up again about the possible conflict of interest that went 1717 02:14:18,860 --> 02:14:24,540 on with some of the bidding these contracts with an employee, a city employee, with an 1718 02:14:24,540 --> 02:14:30,960 outside third party agency that he worked at both companies at the same time, and that is 1719 02:14:30,960 --> 02:14:38,940 when Mike was working as a city staff, as a public safety manager, and we spent money on 1720 02:14:38,940 --> 02:14:44,420 different types of things like cameras and stuff, and contracts were awarded, and to have 1721 02:14:44,420 --> 02:14:49,340 someone who's an employee and work for that company is a conflict interest, nothing ever got done 1722 02:14:49,340 --> 02:14:54,040 about it, never heard anything about it, and there's a number of other things that have been 1723 02:14:54,040 --> 02:14:58,880 approved by the City Council and I question, do we have a conflict of interest? 1724 02:14:59,000 --> 02:14:59,980 I was reading about... 1725 02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:09,760 Government code 1090, which makes it a felony for a public officer, cannot have financial interest in contracts made in their official capacity. 1726 02:15:09,920 --> 02:15:15,740 Every contract with coverage six during that period is potentially void as far as I, in my understanding. 1727 02:15:16,500 --> 02:15:20,400 And the city may be entitled to recover all the funds paid out. 1728 02:15:20,840 --> 02:15:26,820 And when I brought it up to City Manager Malena, she acknowledges that they knew about this. 1729 02:15:26,820 --> 02:15:36,160 And I just think it's a problem not to deal with these issues of conflict of interest and I brought it up before and even even you pulled it off the 1730 02:15:37,180 --> 02:15:46,240 For the agenda for the security and also the I forgot also the drones also. I mean there's a bunch of stuff and I don't want to take it once time 1731 02:15:46,240 --> 02:15:55,040 I just think it's a problem when we don't take conflict of interest seriously and to this date. I've heard nothing about this. Thank you 1732 02:16:04,290 --> 02:16:17,130 Okay, we've talked about a lot of things tonight and I hope going forward things are redline that was one of my issues that we have things that are changed the minutes that were amended and there was no 1733 02:16:17,130 --> 02:16:25,630 I was a pretty significant shift in those documents and I have a question, you said that 1734 02:16:25,630 --> 02:16:35,570 there was a separation agreement for a city manager. It was said very quickly. I heard 1735 02:16:35,570 --> 02:16:39,390 the 28th, but I didn't know if we were talking about the 28th of last month or the 28th 1736 02:16:39,390 --> 02:16:45,250 of this month. And if there's a separation agreement, that's typically public records. 1737 02:16:45,450 --> 02:16:50,770 That'd be coming forward as public documents. I just, 1738 02:16:52,910 --> 02:16:54,430 clearly you can tell I've been spending 1739 02:16:54,430 --> 02:17:04,730 time in our minutes and our budgets and our agendas. Our legal services in 2020 were 81,000. 1740 02:17:05,030 --> 02:17:13,370 They are currently over $400,000 a year. Something is wrong. And I hope that the new incoming 1741 02:17:14,350 --> 02:17:22,430 city council members helped to put a stop to that general budget bleed. We've been paying for 1742 02:17:22,430 --> 02:17:29,890 city manager who hasn't been here for several months, I'm not quite sure how what the 1743 02:17:29,890 --> 02:17:35,550 game plan is, nothing was said about what's the game plan, while Amber is acting city 1744 02:17:35,550 --> 02:17:43,690 manager, or funds still coming out of the library funds to pay her base salary, it's just 1745 02:17:43,690 --> 02:17:44,170 not clear. 1746 02:17:44,350 --> 02:17:50,450 I know there's an additional $1,000 payment for when she acts as acting city manager. 1747 02:17:50,450 --> 02:17:55,170 I feel like these are, this is information that needs to be clear. 1748 02:17:57,910 --> 02:18:07,790 We have, I just, I feel like this is a great opportunity to see some controls and 1749 02:18:07,790 --> 02:18:13,290 attention put on things like office expenses that used to be 40,000. 1750 02:18:13,450 --> 02:18:16,130 We're well over 70,000 this year. 1751 02:18:16,130 --> 02:18:19,490 I'm talking about 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 6. 1752 02:18:20,450 --> 02:18:26,430 Data processing from 18,000 to also over 50,000. 1753 02:18:26,830 --> 02:18:30,850 There was something even in the things for a payment 1754 02:18:30,850 --> 02:18:36,390 to Council Member McCorkendale or data, I don't have it 1755 02:18:36,390 --> 02:18:37,510 in front of me at this moment. 1756 02:18:38,130 --> 02:18:43,150 But I just feel like even this beautiful $80,000 desk. 1757 02:18:45,350 --> 02:18:50,750 The spending out at the corner, the bottom line of these are our tax dollars. 1758 02:18:51,010 --> 02:18:56,070 And I know that sometimes we have opportunities for grant money, we're apparently getting 1759 02:18:56,070 --> 02:19:04,670 2,000 buckets for mulching, food mulching, whatever. 1760 02:19:05,430 --> 02:19:11,690 I just would really like it to be, there to be some attention to the spending that's going 1761 02:19:11,690 --> 02:19:11,970 on. 1762 02:19:11,970 --> 02:19:18,370 These are our tax dollars, and I would like to see some control over them. Thank you. 1763 02:19:22,390 --> 02:19:22,670 Dad, 1764 02:19:28,070 --> 02:19:39,090 I'm Ted Rosenquist. Mayor, council members. I've lived in hidden hills since 1999. 1765 02:19:40,270 --> 02:19:41,650 for that. 1766 02:19:43,820 --> 02:19:50,800 I was a member of the Kalamazah City Hood Committee, the General Plan Committee. 1767 02:19:52,840 --> 02:19:59,720 I was the founder of Stop Bommins Ranch. I was one of the nine litigants. 1768 02:20:00,530 --> 02:20:09,030 In Los Angeles County, Versus Ventura County, obviously off there of the omits and killed right 1769 02:20:09,030 --> 02:20:20,810 a friend and I could all that when I came here. But what I want to say is to our citizens, 1770 02:20:21,930 --> 02:20:28,230 you can win on fighting corruption 1771 02:20:30,400 --> 02:20:32,380 in Ventura County. 1772 02:20:37,420 --> 02:20:42,280 The county supervisor took an illegal 1773 02:20:42,280 --> 02:20:46,460 contribution, I addressed it to Ventura County 1774 02:20:49,500 --> 02:20:55,000 District Attorney and he penalized her. 1775 02:21:00,260 --> 02:21:08,900 This was about presented before, but there seems to be a conflict of interest between 1776 02:21:08,900 --> 02:21:14,400 covered six, and some of our contracts, 1777 02:21:18,090 --> 02:21:25,190 and if someone wanted to, like me, take this to court. 1778 02:21:26,930 --> 02:21:31,790 Who's the district attorney or who would I address it to here in our city? 1779 02:21:36,380 --> 02:21:38,360 I'm not sure I understand the question. 1780 02:21:38,360 --> 02:21:39,120 Well, 1781 02:21:42,880 --> 02:21:51,600 if there's a state law being broken where it was broken on a contract between covered 1782 02:21:51,600 --> 02:21:55,280 six and the city, 1783 02:21:58,330 --> 02:22:03,290 you can file a complaint, citizens can file a complaint. 1784 02:22:05,090 --> 02:22:10,150 But I was wondering, you know, this is a small city. 1785 02:22:10,330 --> 02:22:12,030 We don't have a military here. 1786 02:22:12,030 --> 02:22:17,270 I know we're not supposed to say anything, but we don't have a contract with covered six. 1787 02:22:17,510 --> 02:22:18,210 The HOA has. 1788 02:22:18,330 --> 02:22:21,790 I want to all of this because this is covered six solely. 1789 02:22:23,370 --> 02:22:24,450 HOA has the contract. 1790 02:22:24,930 --> 02:22:27,810 Yeah, we have no contracts with Ever Six. 1791 02:22:28,410 --> 02:22:31,430 Oh, so I don't know where this is coming from. 1792 02:22:31,850 --> 02:22:37,030 And I understand that there's a lot in and I've somewhat forwarding. 1793 02:22:37,030 --> 02:22:44,490 of a bunch of things that are flowing around out there, and I will address them in my council 1794 02:22:44,490 --> 02:22:45,030 comments. 1795 02:22:48,080 --> 02:22:48,560 They're pretty harsh. 1796 02:22:48,560 --> 02:22:50,160 They're pretty harsh accusations. 1797 02:22:53,840 --> 02:22:55,380 I'm not from you, Tim. 1798 02:22:55,860 --> 02:22:55,920 No? 1799 02:22:57,020 --> 02:22:57,500 They are. 1800 02:22:57,900 --> 02:23:05,280 And I just want to clear it up because I would like to sort of circumventing UNDO and rumor with 1801 02:23:05,280 --> 02:23:05,800 facts. 1802 02:23:09,510 --> 02:23:10,150 Yeah. 1803 02:23:10,150 --> 02:23:13,570 word corruption when you're addressing us. 1804 02:23:13,990 --> 02:23:15,130 Oh, you used the word corruption. 1805 02:23:16,350 --> 02:23:16,870 I'm sorry. 1806 02:23:17,450 --> 02:23:18,350 You should be. 1807 02:23:19,130 --> 02:23:23,330 When I am, I want to thank you for all of your service. 1808 02:23:23,510 --> 02:23:32,510 I know it's thankless to be a council member, and I didn't mean that you were corrupt. 1809 02:23:32,730 --> 02:23:34,830 Who are you talking referring to then? 1810 02:23:35,530 --> 02:23:38,910 Who are you referring to when you covered six? 1811 02:23:38,910 --> 02:23:45,910 However, six is corrupt. Yes, they're corrupt, but we're not corrupt. Yeah, I've never said. 1812 02:23:46,490 --> 02:23:50,810 Yes, a little bit. Go back a little bit for minutes. Okay. Thank you. 1813 02:23:52,840 --> 02:23:53,280 Okay, Barbara. 1814 02:23:58,410 --> 02:24:04,490 And I know if I pronounce this correctly, but a law for him named Alisher and Winder has been hired. 1815 02:24:06,310 --> 02:24:14,310 They are employment lawyers. The city already has a city attorney. This firm was brought in specifically for employment related claims 1816 02:24:14,310 --> 02:24:19,450 without authorization, without a contract, with a direct conflict of interest. 1817 02:24:20,270 --> 02:24:24,290 $33,941 in 70 cents of our money. 1818 02:24:24,550 --> 02:24:27,770 No vote, no contract, no explanation. 1819 02:24:28,890 --> 02:24:31,030 I'd like to have an answer about that. 1820 02:24:32,990 --> 02:24:34,070 Anybody else? 1821 02:24:36,510 --> 02:24:37,570 Anybody on Zoom? 1822 02:24:37,970 --> 02:24:39,270 There are no hands raised, Mayor? 1823 02:24:39,870 --> 02:24:40,650 Okay, great. 1824 02:24:41,610 --> 02:24:49,990 public comment is now closed and we will move on to city council comments all the 1825 02:24:49,990 --> 02:24:59,430 last so I have no comments so just on the lighter side I would like to wish happy birthday 1826 02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:09,000 Former City Council videographer, my son Connor. Birthday is today, and sorry I'm late for your birthday dinner. 1827 02:25:11,930 --> 02:25:21,810 Okay, I have a couple of comments and I've asked Sunny Saltani from Alshair Weiner to join us. She is our special counsel. 1828 02:25:22,690 --> 02:25:24,810 She's the managing partner there. 1829 02:25:25,510 --> 02:25:26,090 I am, yes. 1830 02:25:26,950 --> 02:25:30,470 And City Attorney Langer will also be participating. 1831 02:25:31,270 --> 02:25:35,650 And I'm going to go through some of the things that got mentioned today, 1832 02:25:35,910 --> 02:25:40,690 here on our meeting, and some questions that people have forwarded, 1833 02:25:40,690 --> 02:25:42,450 including some of the financial questions. 1834 02:25:43,290 --> 02:25:46,830 So the first question is that, you know, 1835 02:25:46,830 --> 02:25:52,810 We had not made any public announcement regarding the city, we're guarding the prior city manager. 1836 02:25:56,450 --> 02:26:03,990 So can you actually explain why this happened and how it happened and why it was proper the way we did it? 1837 02:26:04,570 --> 02:26:04,710 Absolutely. 1838 02:26:05,190 --> 02:26:06,090 Thank you, Mr. Mayor. 1839 02:26:06,730 --> 02:26:14,270 The city did not make an earlier announcement because personal matters are subject to very important legal and privacy protections. 1840 02:26:14,270 --> 02:26:21,930 And the city was required to allow the process, including all applicable statutory review and 1841 02:26:21,930 --> 02:26:26,810 revocation periods to be completed before making a public statement. 1842 02:26:27,850 --> 02:26:34,130 And the government code sections that deal with this are government code section 54957 and 1843 02:26:34,130 --> 02:26:42,610 government code section 54957.1, those government code sections in compliance with the Brown Act and 1844 02:26:42,610 --> 02:26:49,210 employment rules and high-visit rights, that to be followed, including other contractual obligations 1845 02:26:49,210 --> 02:26:50,250 the city had. 1846 02:26:51,510 --> 02:26:52,190 Thank you. 1847 02:26:52,490 --> 02:26:53,230 Thank you all. 1848 02:26:53,990 --> 02:27:02,190 We've also been some inquiry regarding some FPPC violations with the fire city manager. 1849 02:27:02,790 --> 02:27:03,730 Can you accept that? 1850 02:27:04,090 --> 02:27:04,570 Absolutely. 1851 02:27:04,810 --> 02:27:10,890 Those are not within the city's jurisdiction, and the city should really be commenting on 1852 02:27:10,890 --> 02:27:16,870 Those are private matters between your former city manager and FTPC. 1853 02:27:17,070 --> 02:27:23,630 And that's the appropriate agency for any member of the public that has concerns to contact. 1854 02:27:24,090 --> 02:27:28,450 There's also been some questions regarding acting city manager, 1855 02:27:29,250 --> 02:27:37,690 servant has a lawsuit with a, with a, is involved in a lawsuit. Please address that. 1856 02:27:37,690 --> 02:27:48,710 The city cannot discriminate and not higher employees because they've exercised their first amendment rights to seek legal remedies from former employers. 1857 02:27:49,870 --> 02:28:00,050 That is a private dispute that she has with a former employer under the U.S. Constitution. She's entitled to pursue her rights. 1858 02:28:00,050 --> 02:28:07,050 And the city was absolutely in the right not to make that a consideration in making employment decisions. 1859 02:28:08,570 --> 02:28:09,550 Thank you. 1860 02:28:09,570 --> 02:28:11,650 You would have violated the Constitution, otherwise. 1861 02:28:13,630 --> 02:28:17,110 There have also been some questions about whether or not we, 1862 02:28:17,110 --> 02:28:19,330 how we fulfill the role of treasurer. 1863 02:28:20,190 --> 02:28:23,050 And then we have no official positions of treasurer. 1864 02:28:23,350 --> 02:28:24,270 Can you address that, please? 1865 02:28:25,490 --> 02:28:51,670 Absolutely. It is true that there is a government code section that requires cities to have council members, city treasurer, city clerk, and a fire chief and a fire, sorry, and a police chief. However, that there is a code section that, and I want to find it and find that code section. 1866 02:28:53,110 --> 02:29:02,410 Government post section 34856 provides that the City Council can appoint make that position 1867 02:29:02,410 --> 02:29:07,350 and appointment and they can give that authority to any of their staff. 1868 02:29:08,090 --> 02:29:13,190 So what the city that here was absolutely within the bounds of its discretion and incomplete 1869 02:29:13,190 --> 02:29:14,750 compliance with state law. 1870 02:29:19,970 --> 02:29:20,810 Okay, thank you. 1871 02:29:20,810 --> 02:29:25,860 the city manager authority for over all of the staff. 1872 02:29:28,790 --> 02:29:30,810 That's an interesting one. 1873 02:29:32,470 --> 02:29:36,650 The city of Hidden Hills 1874 02:29:36,650 --> 02:29:41,110 operates in a city council city manager form of government. 1875 02:29:42,310 --> 02:29:46,590 And in a city manager city council form of government, 1876 02:29:46,790 --> 02:29:49,670 it is the city manager that's in charge 1877 02:29:49,670 --> 02:29:56,710 of hiring and firing staff, and the council bodies sits as a policy decision maker. 1878 02:29:56,910 --> 02:29:59,970 And I have to act. I would wager to say... 1879 02:30:00,050 --> 02:30:29,470 90 plus percent of the cities within California operate that way. And that's for good reason. It's like having a board of directors. If you own a company, you would be very familiar with this structure. The board of directors are there to be policy makers to provide broad direction to the CEO and or the executive officers. And it is the CEO and the executive officers that deal with hiring and firing. Can you imagine if you had a situation where the board always said? 1880 02:30:29,470 --> 02:30:34,890 We want to interview everybody, you're hiring CEO, anyone you want to fire, you want to interview. 1881 02:30:35,890 --> 02:30:45,910 So what the city has now done by formally adopting its city manager city council form of government in its personnel 1882 02:30:45,910 --> 02:30:54,690 is what should have been done a long time ago and it is consistent with state law and how other cities operate around the state. 1883 02:30:57,380 --> 02:31:08,400 We've also this year over 2025, we changed our structure a little bit, we now have a city manager and an assistant city manager position. 1884 02:31:09,060 --> 02:31:12,420 Is this consistent or inconsistent the way most cities operate? 1885 02:31:13,520 --> 02:31:18,760 I cannot think of a city, I know that doesn't have an assistant city manager position. 1886 02:31:18,940 --> 02:31:24,200 It's absolutely consistent with the broad tax practice in the state. 1887 02:31:25,240 --> 02:31:37,640 We also changed our city manager's purchasing authority from $5,000 to $10,000, which is effectively doubling it. 1888 02:31:38,120 --> 02:31:42,420 When I got to cities across the county, I come up with completely different numbers. 1889 02:31:44,100 --> 02:31:51,960 So my research says that most city managers have the authority to spend between 25 and 75,000 dollars, 1890 02:31:51,960 --> 02:31:54,760 which is significantly higher than 10,000. 1891 02:31:54,900 --> 02:31:56,580 And why is my research wrong? 1892 02:31:57,620 --> 02:31:58,180 Absolutely not. 1893 02:31:58,560 --> 02:32:03,280 Most many of the cities I see are closer to 50,075,000 1894 02:32:03,280 --> 02:32:07,320 given inflation, and most cities have adopted the rules recently. 1895 02:32:10,140 --> 02:32:14,680 And it's still fairly consistent that the city clerk 1896 02:32:14,680 --> 02:32:18,860 and the assistant city manager and the finance and the finance 1897 02:32:18,860 --> 02:32:22,720 staff report directly to the city manager and not the council. 1898 02:32:22,720 --> 02:32:23,780 Yes? 1899 02:32:25,200 --> 02:32:25,320 Okay. 1900 02:32:25,780 --> 02:32:31,940 Tonight, we adopted Resolution 1065, which is our new governing policies. 1901 02:32:34,640 --> 02:32:40,240 From our perspective, our what we were trying to do was introduce best practices, 1902 02:32:41,660 --> 02:32:44,880 and instill good governance and be more transparent. 1903 02:32:45,400 --> 02:32:48,920 Did you see anything within that resolution that is contrary to these goals? 1904 02:32:49,820 --> 02:32:55,380 I don't. I think it's very good that you've done that. All the reporting requirements 1905 02:32:55,380 --> 02:33:00,940 you're asking the city manager to put on agendas are exactly what the public should 1906 02:33:00,940 --> 02:33:02,740 be looking for. It's transparency. 1907 02:33:04,120 --> 02:33:09,140 There's other questions about how we hired you. Let us know how we did it. 1908 02:33:09,380 --> 02:33:17,480 Absolutely. I'm happy to discuss that. I was retained by the former city manager under 1909 02:33:17,480 --> 02:33:27,100 $10,000 signing authority in October 6, 2025 to answer some questions regarding personnel matters that I cannot disclose. 1910 02:33:28,440 --> 02:33:40,920 That contract was officially extended in close session by the City Council on November 24, pursuant to the Brown Act under potential litigation. 1911 02:33:40,920 --> 02:33:44,760 and it was done as part of litigation strategy. 1912 02:33:45,580 --> 02:33:47,200 Even though it was not a requirement, 1913 02:33:47,720 --> 02:33:50,100 there was a report out of post session, 1914 02:33:50,520 --> 02:33:52,800 which clearly on that date said 1915 02:33:52,800 --> 02:33:55,800 that there was a retention of special council 1916 02:33:55,800 --> 02:33:59,200 being undertaken for litigation related matters, 1917 02:34:00,180 --> 02:34:03,560 based on a claim that was submitted against the city. 1918 02:34:04,680 --> 02:34:07,480 And again, all of these are public documents. 1919 02:34:08,760 --> 02:34:10,320 And anyone can go watch the minutes 1920 02:34:10,320 --> 02:34:14,580 from the number 24th when that announcement was made out of procession. 1921 02:34:16,400 --> 02:34:19,740 And my, that has been minutes of the city 1922 02:34:20,700 --> 02:34:22,040 approving our fee. 1923 02:34:22,360 --> 02:34:25,820 So nothing has been hidden and it's been on the public agenda. 1924 02:34:27,080 --> 02:34:29,140 I know you're not a finance expert, 1925 02:34:29,740 --> 02:34:31,140 but we rely on you for law, 1926 02:34:31,780 --> 02:34:35,040 but there's been some questions about us utilizing library funds 1927 02:34:35,040 --> 02:34:36,360 to pay for things. 1928 02:34:45,860 --> 02:34:52,360 I don't see anything but really your city attorney should respond on the issues more familiar with those issues. 1929 02:34:53,660 --> 02:34:59,980 Yes, I think a lot of work has been done to look at the types of library services that are permitted to be. 1930 02:35:01,140 --> 02:35:08,400 We've been looking at it for quite a few years and making sure that you're following the law and the expenditures of the library funds are proper. 1931 02:35:11,060 --> 02:35:19,020 There's also been some questions about the role of Mike Grant and covered six, and whether or not there is a conflict of interest. 1932 02:35:19,020 --> 02:35:35,340 My memory is that when the first came up and someone brought it up, we opted as a council to delay the actual vote and asked you to look into it so that we could double check to make sure that all of this was above board. 1933 02:35:35,760 --> 02:35:37,420 What am I missing? 1934 02:35:38,340 --> 02:35:39,400 That's exactly correct. 1935 02:35:39,620 --> 02:35:43,560 To be 100% certain that there was no problem before the contract was approved. 1936 02:35:43,560 --> 02:35:49,340 the item was continued in order for my office to do the analysis, and what we had to 1937 02:35:49,340 --> 02:35:54,760 determine was that he was not involved at all in the agreement that was before the council 1938 02:35:54,760 --> 02:36:00,280 that evening. It hasn't been brought back yet for formal approval, but that analysis was done in 1939 02:36:00,280 --> 02:36:06,600 the interim, and determined that there was no legal defect in under government code section 1090 1940 02:36:06,600 --> 02:36:13,040 of considering that contract. And I believe it will be brought forward in future council meetings. 1941 02:36:13,040 --> 02:36:18,400 He's also no longer an employee of the city, so I believe he had also scaled back his work 1942 02:36:18,400 --> 02:36:22,700 over the past year or two to a really minimum number of hours. 1943 02:36:23,140 --> 02:36:25,260 And he has since stopped working for the city. 1944 02:36:25,680 --> 02:36:28,420 So when that contract comes back, there won't be a problem, 1945 02:36:28,620 --> 02:36:33,680 but my office has looked at the legal issues and determined that for that contract he was not involved 1946 02:36:33,680 --> 02:36:38,680 in any way in the consideration or drafting or discussions of those agreements. 1947 02:36:39,000 --> 02:36:40,720 There was a separation and so it was proper. 1948 02:36:40,720 --> 02:36:47,140 Okay, there's also been some questions that we've converted to a certain team into a paid covered 6 contract. 1949 02:36:47,780 --> 02:36:50,600 Do we have a paid covered 6 contract to cover 7? 1950 02:36:52,660 --> 02:36:53,060 No, sir. 1951 02:36:53,140 --> 02:36:53,800 We do not. 1952 02:36:53,900 --> 02:36:56,040 Do we have any contracts with cover 6? 1953 02:36:57,000 --> 02:36:57,400 No, sir. 1954 02:36:57,520 --> 02:36:58,140 We do not. 1955 02:36:58,140 --> 02:36:58,420 Zero. 1956 02:36:58,940 --> 02:36:59,120 Zero. 1957 02:36:59,320 --> 02:37:02,200 We ever had any contracts with cover 6 that you know? 1958 02:37:02,480 --> 02:37:03,020 No, sir. 1959 02:37:03,920 --> 02:37:04,400 Okay. 1960 02:37:05,620 --> 02:37:06,260 Because I don't know. 1961 02:37:06,260 --> 02:37:07,660 I don't know of any either. 1962 02:37:17,320 --> 02:37:34,800 There's also been some questions about our financial position, whether or not we, that the people saying that we should have an audit, well, of course we should have an audit, we have one every year. 1963 02:37:35,560 --> 02:37:37,200 That's literally what we do. 1964 02:37:37,640 --> 02:37:38,500 We get audited. 1965 02:37:39,520 --> 02:37:41,440 The audit, the audit firm comes in. 1966 02:37:41,560 --> 02:37:42,040 They're independent. 1967 02:37:42,040 --> 02:37:44,260 and they have their own set of testing procedures, 1968 02:37:44,900 --> 02:37:46,640 they go through all of our stuff, 1969 02:37:46,880 --> 02:37:49,200 and they issue an opinion on our financial statements. 1970 02:37:49,700 --> 02:37:51,220 This happens on an annual basis. 1971 02:37:51,640 --> 02:37:53,200 This gets presented to the community. 1972 02:37:53,980 --> 02:37:57,760 This part of the package that we send out there. 1973 02:37:58,300 --> 02:38:01,360 And I don't really know what else to say about that. 1974 02:38:01,740 --> 02:38:06,080 We do, we don't have an option of whether or not 1975 02:38:06,080 --> 02:38:07,380 we should have an audit or not. 1976 02:38:07,820 --> 02:38:08,880 It's the law. 1977 02:38:10,020 --> 02:38:16,760 We are audits are probably a lot more intense now than they have been, because I used to 1978 02:38:16,760 --> 02:38:23,560 do audits, so, you know, so if you ask our audit for a meal tell you why I am a freaking 1979 02:38:23,560 --> 02:38:29,880 nightmare, because I know what questions I ask and what questions not to ask, there's 1980 02:38:29,880 --> 02:38:37,060 also been some things out there about our financial stability and there are, we do know that 1981 02:38:37,060 --> 02:38:43,400 of our surrounding communities are having some financial structures, so financial pressure 1982 02:38:43,400 --> 02:38:51,940 and financial issues. That is not the case for us. As of June 30, 2026, now this is 1983 02:38:51,940 --> 02:39:02,020 pre-adent but we know that we're going to be relatively close. We have 14,485,524 dollars 1984 02:39:02,020 --> 02:39:10,620 reserves. That's our reserve. Our annual operating revenues are about $4.5 million. Our annual 1985 02:39:10,620 --> 02:39:18,480 expenditures come somewhere close to that. So this amount has been building over years and 1986 02:39:18,480 --> 02:39:24,200 is accumulated. So our financial position is actually very good. We are very sound. We've 1987 02:39:24,200 --> 02:39:28,660 paid a lot of attention to what we're spending money on, what we're not spending money on. 1988 02:39:28,660 --> 02:39:37,080 There are times where we spend more money as we have tried to professionalize and spend more time. 1989 02:39:37,080 --> 02:39:38,800 We get a lot of questions from the community. 1990 02:39:39,400 --> 02:39:43,120 I welcome the questions, but every time you guys ask questions, we go do the research. 1991 02:39:43,280 --> 02:39:48,000 You don't like it when I don't answer you, but what we do is we go do this research. 1992 02:39:48,440 --> 02:39:51,120 We're not trying to be not transparent. 1993 02:39:51,520 --> 02:39:52,460 We're trying to be thorough. 1994 02:39:52,820 --> 02:39:53,780 We're trying to be accurate. 1995 02:39:54,240 --> 02:39:55,400 We're trying to be correct. 1996 02:39:56,040 --> 02:39:59,960 So, I don't really know what else I can tell you about. 1997 02:40:00,000 --> 02:40:07,840 Without that, we have a series about our committees. We have a budget committee. We have a hiring committee. We have an investment committee. 1998 02:40:08,540 --> 02:40:15,480 We spend a lot of time safeguarding the assets of the community. We view that as our number one job. 1999 02:40:17,200 --> 02:40:29,360 And we also, and every day, we ask ourselves, what are we doing to make hit notes a better place to live? There's no strange ulterior motive. All of us have lived here for a very long time. 2000 02:40:29,360 --> 02:40:33,280 I mean, I'm probably the new guy I've only lived here 30 years. 2001 02:40:37,360 --> 02:40:40,920 So, if you have, we encourage you to ask questions. 2002 02:40:41,460 --> 02:40:43,160 We encourage you to follow up on it. 2003 02:40:43,620 --> 02:40:46,220 There isn't, shouldn't be an adversarial relationship. 2004 02:40:46,700 --> 02:40:48,440 We don't try to make it that way. 2005 02:40:49,540 --> 02:40:52,360 But I hope that you take this in the spirit of which I mentioned. 2006 02:40:52,800 --> 02:40:56,840 The questions are out there, so I tried to answer them. 2007 02:40:56,840 --> 02:41:00,600 So with that, I will move on staff on it. 2008 02:41:03,170 --> 02:41:04,770 There are no additional comments for this evening. 2009 02:41:07,410 --> 02:41:09,450 There are being no further business. 2010 02:41:10,030 --> 02:41:10,930 Can I have a motion? 2011 02:41:11,090 --> 02:41:12,090 I'm moving to a chair. 2012 02:41:14,130 --> 02:41:15,190 Can you make it out of a vote? 2013 02:41:17,910 --> 02:41:18,790 Councilmember Weber. 2014 02:41:19,830 --> 02:41:20,750 Councilmember Gold? 2015 02:41:21,590 --> 02:41:22,110 May I put 10? 2016 02:41:22,790 --> 02:41:23,310 Yes. 2017 02:41:24,430 --> 02:41:24,950 And may I? 2018 02:41:25,270 --> 02:41:25,630 Yes. 2019 02:41:25,830 --> 02:41:26,330 We are here.