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Good evening.

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Good evening. I would like to call this
meeting to order.

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[snorts]
I appreciate it. This microphone doesn't

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carry very well. Good evening everybody.
I would like to call this meeting to

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order. Mr. Lennonheiser, may I have roll
call, please?

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» President Wade, let the record show that
all four members are in attendance this

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evening.
>> Thank you. Please join me in a moment of

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silence, followed by the pledge of
allegiance.

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I motion to approve the agenda.
>> Second.

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» I'll give that to Miss German.
Seconding. All those in favor?

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» I I
>> I. Motion carries four to zero. This

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brings us to Mr. Lassenheiser for the
superintendent report.

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President Wade, members of the board, we
have a few different items in the

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superintendent report. But before we
jump in, I'd like to just let the crowd

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know that this is kind of how we do it.
We'll have a superintendent report where

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we will go through some different items
and we'd appreciate it that when it's uh

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your time to get recognized, you come up
and then you stay. There will be a point

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in time where I'll say, "Hey, if
anybody, you know, would like to go

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ahead and leave, it would be an
appropriate time." So, I'll let you guys

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know when that happens. But I'm really
excited about the different things that

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we're looking to celebrate today. Uh
first of all, I just wanted to shout out

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to our campuses, to our students, to our
sponsors, our club sponsors, our people

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who put together our Patriot Day
celebrations from around the district.

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And so our schools recognize the events
of 9/11 and Patriot Day with ceremonies,

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public safety appreciation events,
assemblies, service projects. You know,

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in Higgley, one of our pillars of our
portrait graduate is a responsible

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citizenship. And you know how we uh
recognize what happens on Patriot Day

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really exemplifies the importance that
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and citizenship to our students at every
level. And I don't know if you were guys

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were able to go out and visit any of the
different events, but fantastic things

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organized by students and by our
sponsors of our clubs and by our

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leadership. And I'm just proud of uh
what we do and what we do to remember

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and then turn around and support within
student service project. So, I want to

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give a big thank you to everybody who
worked hard to make that a special day

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around of our district.

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I want to commend uh everyone who was
involved with our business and community

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partner breakfast that happened last
week. We welcomed more than 100 business

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owners, community leaders, and
nonprofits to Kulie's campus for our

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fall business and community partner
breakfast where we highlighted Sausman

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Spartan buddies and video productions
programs and Centennial's participatory

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budgeting program. It's a great
opportunity to network and brainstorm

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with our business partners on the future
projects as we move forward into the

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school year. Our question that we had
was how we can we have our business

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partners connect with our participatory
budgeting processes that are occurring

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on our campuses. We had great feedback
about the conversation and as always our

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goal is to take conversation and turn it
into action and how we can we can

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further commit to making sure that we
work together because when we are

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working together it's going to provide
our students the best opportunities

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possible. So, thank you to everyone who
was involved in setting up and and being

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a part of the business and community
partner breakfast and we look forward to

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our next one in February.

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All right. Now, it's the time where I
think a lot of you are here to see

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because we are very, very proud of
Sasman Middle School's wrestling team

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for winning the East Valley Conference
Championship. Let's give him a round of

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applause.
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All right, gentlemen, up here. So, if I
could have the team come up, please. All

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of you come up

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and I just want you to line up right
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And I know we have our coaches and Mr.
Keeling are here, but kids, I'm going to

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put you on the spot just a little bit.
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First of all, congratulations for
representing Higgley and Sausman and

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winning the wrestling championship. That
is awesome. And what I'm going to do

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before I turn it over to Mr. Keeling,
we're going to just hand down the

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microphone and I'd like you to introduce
yourself, what grade you're in, and what

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weight class you participated in. And if
you were one of our EVC champions, would

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you tell us that you're the champion as
well? So, do you guys got it? Okay,

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we're going to start with coach over
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» Uh Josh Nisbet, assistant coach, been
with Sman for seven years. Hi. Um, I'm

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TJ. Um, I'm in eighth grade. Um, and I'm
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» I got second place.
>> I'm Phoenix. I'm in eighth grade and I

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participated in the 98 weight class and
I got fifth place.

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» I'm Brooklyn. I'm in eighth grade and I
participated in the 133 weight class.

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I'm Daniel. I'm in eighth grade and I
participated in the 167 weight class.

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» I'm Co and I'm in seventh grade and I
participated in the 88 weight class.

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» I'm Josiah. I'm in eighth grade and I
participated in the 142 weight class.

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» I'm Dean and I participated in the 105
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» Uh I'm Jacob. I'm in eighth grade and I
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» Uh, third place.

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» I'm Kaden. I'm in seventh grade and I
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and I won EVC's.

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» I'm Jimmer. Uh, I'm in eighth grade and
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and I got second place.
>> I'm Isa. I participated in the 111

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weight class and I won ABC's.
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» I'm Austin and I participated in the 118
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I placed third place.

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» I'm Mia Johnson. I'm in eighth grade and
I participated in the 125 weight class.

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» I'm Paxton Romney. I participated in the
154 pound weight class. I came in third

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place and I'm in eighth grade.
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weight class and I placed second.

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» And I am Coach Tid and I've been Sman
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this done and this is the team that did
it. Thank you boys.

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I'm Brandon Keeling. I'm the assistant
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we're not going to talk about my weight
class. And so, um, Coach Tid has been

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coaching assassin for 10 years. Um, nine
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there's a particular team that won it.
We don't say their name around here.

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And, um, coach goes, we're going to
catch those guys. and he spent the last

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almost decade uh building this program,
working with coach Nesbbit, working with

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the high school um to create a fantastic
program and great experience for our

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kids. I'm so proud of coach, so proud of
every single one of you showing up every

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morning at 6:30 to work hard and
accomplish your goals and looking

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forward to uh seeing you guys back in
this room next year as repeat champions.

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Way to go, Sasman. [applause]

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All right, let's give another big round
of applause for these outstanding

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champions. All right, you guys are good
to go back to your seats. Thank you so

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much. Congratulations.

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You know, Mr. Keeling mentioned being
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to participate in athletics and I just
want to say thank you to all of you

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parents. You're here tonight. You're
driving them in the morning and I know

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the sacrifices you make as a family when
you're the uh parent of an athlete. So,

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thank you so much for supporting and
we're so proud of the success of our

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students. So, what a great celebration
it is for us tonight.

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For upcoming events, um this Thursday we
have our school visit with the cabinet

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and the governing board to Williamsfield
High School and we're really looking

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forward so that Williamsfield can
highlight what they're doing on

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campuses. I'm sure no one's counting
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fall break and so we will have two weeks
off. During that time, we do have

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Tuesday, October 13th, that's at 10:00
a.m. will be our uh virtual board

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meeting so we can go through the AFR.
And just remember, especially for

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parents out there, Monday, October 19th,
when we come back from break, we do not

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have students on that day. So, the
students continue to have Monday off

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where we'll do well. We do a
professional development day. And then

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Tuesday, October 20th is when we resume
school after fall break. So that

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concludes the superintendence report and
thank you. So everyone who was here so

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that we could recognize and celebrate.
But at this time we're going to switch

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to our business portion of our meeting.
So if you would like to stay, you're

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more than welcome to stay. But we'll
take a couple minutes if you guys would

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like to leave now. So thank you very
much for being here and supporting.

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President Wade, that concludes the
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» Thank you, Mr. Lenheiser.
Next on the agenda are the requests to

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speak. Please play the video.

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[music]
We value input from our constituents.

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This time on our agenda has been set
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[music] who wishes to address the board.
Those that wish to speak should have

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filled out speaker cards which are
[music] due prior to the start of our

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meeting. Members of the board may not
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matters raised that are not specifically
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pursuant [music] to ARS 38-431.01i,
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comment will be limited to [music]
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responding to any criticism or
scheduling the matter for further

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consideration and decision at a later
date. Also, we ask that audience members

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practice proper public meeting to
quorum, refraining from either negative

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or positive responses, including
clapping or verbal outbursts to ensure

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fairness to all points of view. Those
that refuse [music] to follow these

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rules may be asked to leave. In
accordance with policy BEDH public

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[music] participation at board meetings,
if considered necessary, the governing

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board president shall [music] set a time
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period in order to ensure that each
individual has an opportunity [music] to

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address the board. The president may
also set a time limit for individual

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speakers. Thank you for your
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Up first we have Maryanne Show.

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Good evening board members and our
executive branch of Higgley Unified.

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I come here on the behalf of parents and
students in our high school and middle

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school community who are really really
frustrated

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with the software errors that are
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It is my understanding from my own
children that there are multiple issues

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going on with both Canvas
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oh gosh, parent view that is actually
blocking our students from being able to

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get work turned in correctly
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My oldest is a sophomore at
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a year and a quarter.
So between our freshman year and where

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we are now, she has had to switch out
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Um, our youngest is a freshman at
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In this time period, she has had to
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All of it is a software issue.
Most of the time, the IT department is

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trying to hit it with hardware.
The canvas is software. Parent view is

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software.
We have contracts with those companies

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regarding
the our students ability to learn. So

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this needs to be hit with two parts
because our district is paying for those

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contracts
and it is affecting our kids ability to

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learn and parents ability to actually
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Um, our oldest spent an entire class
period today with her teacher

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trying to figure out why Canvas wasn't
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So, I don't know how much we're paying
per student, but at this point,

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we need to start looking at the
contracts we have with both

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organizations.
Thank you.

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Next, we have Timothy Show.

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It was last year about the same time we
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classroom and the failures of bringing
electronics without a redundant system.

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And historically we've had chalk
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We have them left over there in the in
throughout the world we come across

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them. the advent of computer going there
without a proper roll out will lead to a

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decrease in the student learning. It's
that's been repeated over and over

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again. One of the biggest areas was
during COVID when they try to digitize

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every student out there. Uh I happen to
have a bachelor of electrical

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engineering. It's a passion of mine.
It's also a vocation. But without

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redundant systems, you're going to lose
the kids. You you they're going to be

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frustrated. My oldest happens to be a
natural engineer. Kind of comes with the

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territory. and she she chose not to
pursue engineering as a natural female

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engineer. Carl Jung would say less than
1% of the population. That's something

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all the school boards I've ever heard
try to try to f um try to

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encourage and prosper. It's not working.
And it's not working because the kids

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are frustrated. It's not rolled out
properly. It needs to be rolled out

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properly.

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Up next, we have Trevor Cook.

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Okay, it's going to be a little I'm
pretty tall, so let's see. Okay. All

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right. There we go. All right. Good
evening, U Madam Board President,

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members of the board. Uh my name is
Trevor Cook. I am a former student of

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Higgley High School, also a former
member of student council. Uh I am a

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2016 graduate. Go Knights. Uh, I'm here
to talk about today about there was an

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incident a few weeks ago of a of a
student potentially who had violated the

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dress code. There was a shirt that it
was a shirt that had a blood stain on it

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regarding the assassination of an
individual. And this student has a first

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amendment right obviously. I I get that.
I respect that. But at the same time, it

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is in violation of the dress code
regarding basically when it uh contains

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or convenes obscene language symbols or
messages. Uh I think that uh there

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should be some punishment for this
because it is a dress code that this

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that the board adopted and the school
has to follow. But and and look, I mean

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it doesn't matter what the student was
wearing or who they support politically.

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It doesn't matter if it's Charlie Kirk,
Martin Luther King Jr. It it doesn't

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matter. Schools are supposed to be a
place of free speech and opportunity.

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They we can't they should not they it's
just it's just they shouldn't be wearing

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stuff that violates the dress code. that
could be distracting to other students

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and staff. Thank you so much.

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Up next, we have Travis White.

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Good evening, President Wade, members of
the board, superintendent, district

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leadership, uh, and community members.
My name is Travis White and I'm a proud

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parent of a first grader in the Mandarin
dual immersion program at Coronado

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Elementary. Thank you for keeping
elementary specials and language

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programs as part of your focus. This
Saturday is National PTO appreciation

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day and I wanted to recognize our
wonderful PTOs and booster clubs across

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our district. Our Coronado PTO has
worked tirelessly during our recent

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direct donation drive and I wanted to
thank them uh for their efforts in

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planning this year's Mid-Autumn Moon
Festival that will be held this Friday.

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These fundraising efforts allow Coronado
to have events where all families can

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attend for free and celebrate together
as a school community. This is what true

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community and inclusion looks like in
practice. Having the opportunity to

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invest directly in school communities
and is one of the things that makes the

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work of supporting a school so
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Tonight's agenda for the fiscal year
2027 classroom site fund plan is a good

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example of that. Budgets are more than
just spreadsheets and communication

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around them clearly outlines a
district's values.

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It's wonderful that we're committing
these statutory dollars to the base

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addition, stipens, performance pay, and
even subsidizing the 3% base increase

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for our hardworking certified staff.
While this increase is vital to

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supporting our educators in today's
inflationary environment and competitive

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East Valley market, it only just keeps
pace.

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While our focus should continue to be on
maximizing state uh CSF dollars, our

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ongoing imperative as a district must be
rigorous financial oversight and

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operational efficiency. This will allow
us to determine additional ways to

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increase compensation for our educators
over time. Whether it's parents stepping

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up to ensure all families can celebrate
together at a festival or the board

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directing funds where they impact
students learning most, our focus must

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stay locked on supporting the people who
make Higgley great. Thank you for your

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time. Let's keep showing that together
we got this and that Higgley's public

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schools can can continue to lead the
charts by supporting our educators in

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their journey to provide a world-class
education for every student. Thank you.

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Up next we have Heather Balch.

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» Good evening board members and um
cabinet. It's nice to be here this

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evening. I think that as a a school
district we often stop thinking about

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our kids after they graduate. Uh our
kids graduate from high school and then

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we really don't know what happens after
that. Um, and tonight I'm here to share

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the rest of the story with you. My son
started preschool at Santan Elementary

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back in 2007. He continued his
elementary career through uh sixth grade

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at Santan and then went to Sasson Middle
School. While at Sassimon Middle School,

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he found his love of robotics with John
Burke, who fostered a an opportunity for

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him to explore um something of very much
interest to him. sports was not his

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thing. Um and then from there he went on
to Higgley High School where he got

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involved in the CTE engineering
programs. Jason Sixkiller just um ran an

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amazing program while he was there. Um
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during one class period, Embry Riddle
came to present to our kids and tell

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them about what a great opportunity the
university is. And he actually ended up

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going there. He graduated in May and he
was just hired um at Honeywell. So,

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Higgley students do great things and I
just wanted to share that with you

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tonight. Thank you.

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Up next, we have Mindy Brocker.

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Thank you so much, President Wade, and
members of the governing board for

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allowing me to speak tonight. I'm asking
that you reject the proposed changes to

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policy KB. I want to be very clear. I
support parental rights, religious

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liberty, and Higgley complying fully
with Arizona law and the Supreme Court's

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decision in Mahabmood versus Taylor. But
these proposed amendments are

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unnecessary and they create serious
operational risks in our classrooms.

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HUSD's existing policy already provide
substantial protections. Section E

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allows parents who object to
instructional materials as harmful to

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withdraw their children and request
alternative assignments, specifically

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including objections involving religion.
Section F guarantees advanced access to

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instructional materials. Rejecting these
board member drafted amendments does not

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mean rejecting parental rights. The
changes proposed by board member Van

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Hoke go considerably further. Legally,
Mimmude and the First Amendment address

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instruction that substantially
interferes with religious development or

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poses a substantial threat to faith. In
law, substantial is a high bar. It

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addresses severe burdens, not incidental
exposure to regular pre-approved

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academic content. Yet under proposed
section E, that threshold completely

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disappears. A parent need only identify
an activity and claim a conflict. Staff

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are forbidden from questioning or
evaluating it, and the student must

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immediately be pulled from all
instruction and exposure while the

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request is pending. In practice, this
turns a standard into any perceived

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compl conflict, no matter how routine.
Consider our classrooms where a standard

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middle school science lesson on genetics
or a history unit on world religions or

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an English novel with diverse characters
does not pose a constitutional

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violation. Yet, under this language, an
objection to any ordinary topic can

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force an immediate and automatic
removal. Education amongst your peers

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cannot function if every classroom must
be individually customized instantly to

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immediately accommodate every family's
personal beliefs. Before adopting this

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language, the board should ask, "What is
Higgley's existing procedure and

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response time when an objection is
submitted right before instruction

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begins?" If there is a procedural gap,
let's fix that gap. Parents do have

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rights, teachers have responsibilities,
and students have a right to a coherent

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education.
Please reject these amendments and

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direct staff as needed to craft a
narrowly tailored procedure that

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protects legitimate rights without
disrupting our classroom learning. Thank

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you.

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» Okay, that concludes our request to
speak. Uh Mr. Lotsenheiser, if we can

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get uh in our superintendent report an
IT update, if if things are happening,

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is it happening across the board,
intermittent all that jazz?

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» Yes.
>> Thank you.

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This brings us to consent agenda items.
I motion to approve consent agenda items

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5.1 through 5.13.
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» That would be Miss Schultz. Seconding.
All those in favor?

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» I
>> I I motion carries four to zero. We'd

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like to thank AMZ, Tall and Mechanical,
McGra Hill, UHG, Kerry Coxin, DLR, DLR

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Group, Arizona Students Recycling, Use
Technology, Higgley Palm Boosters, and

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Higgley Cheer Boosters for their
generous donations to the district and

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its students.

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» [clears throat]
>> This brings us to action item 6.1,

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approval of fiscal year 2027 classroom
site fund plan. Any questions or

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comments from the board before a motion?

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President Wade. Um,
I just noticed that we got the numbers

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back in the uh Q&A and I noticed that
the uh total projected cost of all four

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components was 13.5 million and the
revenue is projected to be 12.7 million

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and there's a difference of about
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And I'm just wondering if uh
[clears throat] do we plan on using the

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classroom site fund balance to cover
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President Wade, uh board member Van
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carrying well, we came into this year
with about 16 million in budget balance

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carry forward. So, yes, we're trying to
start spending that down because that's

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a large dollar amount to be carrying in
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» Nothing.
>> Okay. I motion to approve the fiscal

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year 2027 classroom site fund plan.
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» I'm going to give that to Miss Gar.
Seconding. All those in favor?

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» I.
>> I. Motion carries 4 to zero. Next, we

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have 6.2 second read and approval of
BEDBA school board operational goals.

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Any questions or comments from the board
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President Wade, uh, I had suggested
changes to the policy and

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the policy currently requires agenda and
supporting material to be distributed at

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least 24 hours before the meeting. Um,
but it does not establish a minimum of

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standard for the supporting material. Uh
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Lutzenheiser and during our meeting we
agreed that the board should receive

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complete agreements or documentation
when um asked to approve or amend or

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renew contracts. Um and also for the
public to have access to those

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documents. Um
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and actually I was I was told that that
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but I don't know if the when I pulled

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the communication protocols
at the time um if that was that wasn't

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in there. Uh
but my concern is if we're being asked

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to approve
uh material

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um that that
the agenda include the materials that

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we're being asked to approve and some
you know when we do the Q&A I'll ask uh

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for the information and then it's sent
to us after the act, but I think it's

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important to ensure that it's attached
to the agenda. So, not only are we being

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able to see that um the changes or
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that the community is able to see that
as well. Um that was the only um

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thing. Let me see here.
So complete agenda backup material and

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then um
the sum summary of material revisions uh

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when we are sent uh information that
things are changing and right now it's

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practice that uh if an agenda item or or
supporting document is changed uh

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Christine is is good at providing those
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but again,
I I wanted to make sure that it's in

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whether it's in the communications
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that [clears throat] it states that. Um,
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Um [sighs]
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and then emergency deviation when for
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deviate from um the agenda for some
reason uh my request was that we

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document uh
in in the meeting records why that

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deviation occurred.
And I was told during our meeting that

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uh policy beed
uh and and it was cross referenced also

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I believe but I didn't see it in that
policy either. Um

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but
this doesn't my recommendation wouldn't

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prevent the superintendent from
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It's just document making sure that we
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deviated from um the agenda.
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those are three concerns that I still
have about the policy. Um, and

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I might I would like for us to be able
to have further discussion

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um to see if we can incorporate um these
items within that policy,

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if that makes sense.
Mr. Lsonheiser, do we have in our

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communications protocol the 24-hour
notice? I mean, I see we have 24-hour

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notice on here and ultimately it is in
our practice. So, where is that within

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our
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we have the 24 hours and and board
member Van Hook had sent a list of

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different things. Um we are asking that
uh the board approve as written what we

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have done with in terms of changing this
policy because going through our legal

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as well as uh looking at what we
consistently already do. Um we felt like

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this is the most appropriate thing that
would happen for our [clears throat]

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policy. When we talk about supporting
materials, supporting materials varies

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significantly by every single different
um item that comes forward. And I know

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that we do provide our supporting
materials and we do list those things

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ahead of time. And if there ever is an
issue, then that is a strong way with

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the communication that we do have and
the processes we do have in order to be

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able to provide those because when we do
post them and post them publicly, they

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are going to be at least 24 hour 24
hours prior to the meeting. In terms of

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the communication protocols, we did not
include copies of those in there because

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that is more of a regulation or
something that we do together. But we do

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follow through with what is accepted in
terms of what the uh emergency

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communication we already have it in a
different policy and the worry is when

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you start writing it into both different
policies. I don't want to ever get

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confused. So that's why we turned around
and referenced and um we have been very

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consistent about when changes happen
because we do get the agenda to you guys

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out on Wednesday for the next Tuesday
and sometimes there are things that get

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updated and so uh that has been a
consistent thing. We I do know that is

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being added to the communication
protocols that outlines those different

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times as we're moving forward.
President Wade, my concern was that for

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instance, if we
uh for instance are being asked to

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a previous board, let's say approved a
an agreement of of some sort uh whether

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it's an MOU or an agreement and then now
and and as we know board changes every

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two years and so we are then asked to
extend that that agreement for an

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additional five years and the initial
agreement isn't attached to the policy.

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Uh so we don't necessarily know what the
previous board approved. So my ask is

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that that agreement should be included
as part of the agenda so that if we're

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being asked to extend a previously
approved agreement uh that we see what

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we're approving. Um that's just one
example. board member Van Hook, do you

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have a specific example because we we
went back. We're very cognizant of the

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conversation we had and looking like is
there a time when we've asked to approve

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MUS where we have not provided it for
you?

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» No, it's not just providing it like when
we we've asked. We've had many instances

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where I've had to ask for doc
documentation and it's been sent to us

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uh with the Q&A. Um, and while we were
meeting, I try to go through uh my

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emails. Um, but we have had those
situations where it's been sent once

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it's been asked for. Uh,
but I I think that it's not something

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that we should have to ask for. I think
it should just be included as part of

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the agenda.
Uh

422
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:42,880
again, whether it's an agreement or even
if it's

423
00:38:41,599 --> 00:38:48,599
you know when you talk about like
material changes

424
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,599
if there's

425
00:38:50,160 --> 00:39:01,680
let's say a 30page contract of and uh
the contract is amended. uh being able

426
00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:07,599
to
outline exactly what those changes are

427
00:39:05,119 --> 00:39:15,440
um when we talk about identifying, you
know, revisions of material. Um but

428
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:21,760
I've seen it
many times where we've had to ask for

429
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:27,599
documentation. So it is being provided
after we ask. All I'm asking is that it

430
00:39:25,359 --> 00:39:36,880
be included without having to ask for
it. Um, that's all. And and as I said, I

431
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:42,400
looked in policy BDA and I did not see
in there where it covers these things

432
00:39:39,119 --> 00:39:48,560
that I've mentioned.
>> President Wade. Um, so after I reviewed

433
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:52,240
kind of this, um, I could see the point
that board member Van Hook was kind of

434
00:39:50,720 --> 00:39:57,200
making. Obviously, we want to see all
the information. I mean, as a board

435
00:39:54,000 --> 00:40:02,320
member, I learned that board member 101,
you need to know how to search in board

436
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:07,280
docs and you need to be thorough and
figure out what are good search words,

437
00:40:03,839 --> 00:40:13,760
all that kind of stuff. And um but I
could see how a general statement that

438
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:18,000
is hard to identify like what what
exactly documents would need to be

439
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:23,680
uploaded perhaps and stuff like that.
So, I could see how the district would

440
00:40:20,079 --> 00:40:29,760
potentially be confused and um and some
of us like it provided via email. Some

441
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:35,200
of us do utilize the search. So, that's
where it was kind of hard is I think it

442
00:40:31,839 --> 00:40:40,800
would be hard for the admin to predict
what specifically. So, I love the Q&A,

443
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:45,200
the option to always ask a question.
They they do such a good job releasing

444
00:40:43,119 --> 00:40:50,720
these questions ahead of time so we
really have time. So, I could see kind

445
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:56,280
of the frustrations on both ends, but I
ultimately think that, you know, we've

446
00:40:52,720 --> 00:40:56,280
utilized the Q&A.

447
00:40:57,359 --> 00:41:04,960
» Um, President Wade, board members, if I
could just um walk through a couple of

448
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:11,119
the concerns. I I did um meet with the
superintendent last week uh to go

449
00:41:07,599 --> 00:41:15,119
through the proposed changes and um the
version in front of you is what my

450
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:18,640
recommended changes are. And this is
really intended to comply with the open

451
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:22,000
meeting law, right? So open meeting law
requires that you receive the

452
00:41:20,513 --> 00:41:26,400
[clears throat] agenda, the public can
see the agenda and supporting documents

453
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:30,319
um 24 at least 24 hours ahead. Many
districts have a practice that you get

454
00:41:28,079 --> 00:41:34,800
the documents much earlier than that,
right? Because your governing board

455
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:38,560
agenda often has voluminous documents.
And so it sounds like that's what the

456
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:43,520
practice is here as well. Again, your
Q&A um practice exceeds what's required

457
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:46,960
by the open that's not in the open
meeting law, right? But that's just

458
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:51,040
another opportunity for board members to
inquire about matters so that when they

459
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:54,880
get to to your meeting things can run
more smoothly.

460
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:59,920
Um
so with regard to member Van Hook's

461
00:41:57,119 --> 00:42:05,280
question or issue about the emergency I
did if if I understand your concern

462
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:09,520
correctly um member Van Hook the 24hour
um meeting notice can be waved if

463
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:15,119
there's an actual emergency and that is
contained in policy BEDA.

464
00:42:12,240 --> 00:42:20,720
I've never advised a governing board to
hold an emergency meeting because I've

465
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:24,240
never seen one. Um, and so that's very
used very sparingly, but obviously the

466
00:42:22,720 --> 00:42:28,560
governing board would have to document
what the true emergency was, why they

467
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:32,560
couldn't provide 24-hour notice to the
to the public. And I'm happy to answer

468
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:37,760
any questions.
>> Um, yes. And and that's exa I that's

469
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:44,640
exactly what I'm asking is that we
document uh which I don't see in the

470
00:42:41,119 --> 00:42:50,160
policy is having to ensure that we
document that and I hope we never have

471
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:55,520
to have an emergency meeting like that.
Um I mean there are states where there's

472
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:59,680
a tornado and there's a roof that blew.
I mean there's like districts that have

473
00:42:57,599 --> 00:43:04,880
had issues like that.
My concern with that specific section is

474
00:43:02,720 --> 00:43:10,560
just to ensure that we're documenting
and put it in policy to say whether it's

475
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:15,680
policy or whether it's regulation to say
let let's make sure we're documenting.

476
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:23,920
Um but
my issue isn't the 24hour notice uh when

477
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:30,800
it comes to backup material. My issue is
ensuring that the documents are attached

478
00:43:27,839 --> 00:43:37,599
to the agenda so that we don't have to
ask for it. Um that it's standard

479
00:43:34,079 --> 00:43:42,560
practice to provide those documentations
and also

480
00:43:39,839 --> 00:43:50,560
um so that the public can see the
documents as well. And as I explained,

481
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:54,400
if it's if we're being asked to extend
an agreement that's been approved by a

482
00:43:52,640 --> 00:44:00,480
previous board and that agreement isn't
attached to the agenda,

483
00:43:57,839 --> 00:44:04,960
then how do we know where we're exactly?
You know, sometimes they just put like

484
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:09,680
verbiage instead of
attaching the actual document. There's

485
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:16,640
just like language for that specific
agenda item. And in addition to that

486
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:22,800
language, there needs to be the initial
document so we know what we're extending

487
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:26,400
or what we're approving. Um,
President Wade, I don't mean to

488
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:30,800
crosshairs, but saying that there's no
documents provided, that's kind of a

489
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:34,800
mistruth. I feel like that there's the
district always attaches and stuff like

490
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:38,960
that. It's very visible. So, I don't
know.

491
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:43,119
Um, I don't believe your statement is
100% accurate.

492
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:50,200
Um, you can believe whatever you'd like.
Um, but for instance, I believe 5, what

493
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:50,200
was it? 512.

494
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,760
Um,

495
00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:04,800
maybe it was last meeting, but
there was

496
00:45:02,319 --> 00:45:08,640
an agenda item. Uh, I believe it was
last meeting where it was just just

497
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:15,359
language and I don't remember what it
was about at this moment. Um, but we've

498
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:20,000
had several instances where there is no
document and I've had to ask for it and

499
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:26,319
it's been sent to us with the agenda
Q&A. Um, so calling it a mistruth,

500
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:32,720
I don't know what you're even talking
about, but um, the point is ensuring

501
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:37,440
that the documentation um, is attached
uh, and that not only we see it as board

502
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:43,040
members, but the community sees the
document as well. That's all I'm asking.

503
00:45:41,206 --> 00:45:47,920
[clears throat]
>> First, I would like to um express

504
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:52,000
gratitude both to the district and board
member Van Hook and that you all work

505
00:45:49,839 --> 00:45:58,880
together to, you know, update certain
aspects of this policy with in

506
00:45:54,240 --> 00:46:02,960
accordance with the law. Um I I do think
it is important to keep in mind we have

507
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:07,359
access to this information as board
members. We have access to board docs.

508
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:12,000
we can go back through these things and
even greater as a board member when I

509
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:15,040
decide I don't want to go through and
look through that or I'm having problems

510
00:46:13,839 --> 00:46:18,960
when I'm looking through it because I
don't exactly know what to look for as

511
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:24,640
board member German brought up or sorry
vice president German um I can ask the

512
00:46:22,079 --> 00:46:28,720
district and we get access to that. So I
I

513
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:32,480
it feels as if we're we're making
statements that we're not having access

514
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:35,839
to this information. And at the end of
the day, what I hear repetitively

515
00:46:33,839 --> 00:46:39,680
throughout that is yes, you may have had
to ask for it, but you still get it. And

516
00:46:38,079 --> 00:46:43,200
I think that is important. And I do
believe that there are certain aspects

517
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:47,920
of this that again, we can go back and
look at because it's as if we have these

518
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:55,200
things in record to be able to do so.
Um, and so I I do feel that at this time

519
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:59,200
I personally am going to recommend what
our lawyers are suggesting in terms of

520
00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:02,960
in accordance with the law. As far as
the documentation piece of making sure

521
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:06,400
that we document should we ever have an
emergency and we have to cancel a

522
00:47:04,720 --> 00:47:09,440
meeting and we're unable to fulfill
that, which I recognize we have not had

523
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:15,079
to do, that would not be in this
specific policy since it's already

524
00:47:11,119 --> 00:47:15,079
addressed in the BEA.

525
00:47:15,119 --> 00:47:21,599
» Yes, madam. Yes, that's correct. And
Madam President, if I could just say um

526
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:25,599
that specific portion of the policy, it
says a 24-hour meeting notice is not

527
00:47:24,240 --> 00:47:28,800
required in the case of an actual
emergency. However, notice shall be

528
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:32,319
given and procedures followed in
accordance with the open meeting law. So

529
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:35,839
that would cover the document, the
reason why an emergency meeting was

530
00:47:34,240 --> 00:47:38,560
called without the 24-hour,
>> meaning we would have to provide that to

531
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:40,720
the public because we are legally
obligated to do so.

532
00:47:39,599 --> 00:47:45,003
» You would have to put it on the record
why you're holding an emergency.

533
00:47:41,839 --> 00:47:47,520
» Okay. Thank you. Perfect. Um, Miss
[clears throat] Van Hook, do you have

534
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:51,680
more you wish to comment before I make a
motion?

535
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:56,079
» Um, yes. I want to say yes. We when we
ask for it, we get it. But the problem

536
00:47:53,760 --> 00:48:01,839
then is the community doesn't get it.
The community doesn't see it um as part

537
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:07,983
of the agenda item. So, that is one of
my concerns.

538
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:07,983
But we can move on. [clears throat]

539
00:48:09,359 --> 00:48:18,640
I motion to approve beba school board
operational goals goals. That's weird.

540
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:21,359
Second, Miss Schultz seconded. All those
in favor?

541
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:27,520
» I.
>> I. Motion carries four to zero.

542
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:31,359
» This brings us to
6.3

543
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:37,400
second read and approval of IHA
instructional program. Any questions or

544
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:37,400
comments from the board before I motion?

545
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:57,280
When you look at the change request uh
for number three, I originally requested

546
00:48:53,920 --> 00:49:02,400
language to ensure that the uh
curricular and non-curricular programs

547
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:10,079
do not diminish the instructional time
resources

548
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:15,440
um during the policy review. Um
it was proposed alternate language uh

549
00:49:13,839 --> 00:49:21,359
and
um we did discuss that language when we

550
00:49:17,839 --> 00:49:26,480
met. Um and I understood that uh it
would be incorporated into into the

551
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:36,160
policy. Um
but then when we got the updated policy,

552
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:42,000
it looks like it was removed.
Um

553
00:49:39,119 --> 00:49:47,359
let's see. The existing policy
states that uh prioritizing reading and

554
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:51,680
mathematics should not result in neglect
of other curricular area curriculum

555
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:58,480
areas.
And I want to ensure that the reverse is

556
00:49:55,680 --> 00:50:02,079
also true. That other programs and
initiatives do not diminish the

557
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:06,880
instructional time and resources
necessary for students to achieve

558
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:09,880
proficiency in our core academic
subjects.

559
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:19,440
Um
and and just based on the language that

560
00:50:15,599 --> 00:50:25,119
was put in
as the opposite of that. Um

561
00:50:23,359 --> 00:50:32,680
and then
number three instruction and other um

562
00:50:28,240 --> 00:50:32,680
let's see sorry.

563
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:48,800
Yeah. So I I would like to just
understand like why would we

564
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:54,040
uh protect other curricular areas from
being neglected?

565
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:54,040
um

566
00:50:54,559 --> 00:50:59,480
but not protect core academics.

567
00:51:01,599 --> 00:51:08,880
Madame President, board members, um I
again I worked with the administration

568
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:16,400
on to harmonize the ASBA model changes
and board member Van Hook's changes and

569
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:23,839
requested changes and um
essentially I made a modification to

570
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:29,680
number two, I believe, paragraph two. um
because that incorporates a program

571
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:34,559
around math, mathematics,
and then uh the literacy coach. And then

572
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:39,599
as far as number three, I I did not
recommend making that change because of

573
00:51:36,240 --> 00:51:43,680
the um the detail and the administrative
burden that would be created by this um

574
00:51:42,240 --> 00:51:46,920
assessment that the superintendent would
have to do.

575
00:51:47,839 --> 00:51:56,040
Can you explain what the burden would be
to ensure that we're not neglecting

576
00:51:52,720 --> 00:51:56,040
course subjects?

577
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:04,960
» Sure. Um so member Van Hook um board
members, this was just very specific.

578
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:11,920
Obviously the superintendent is charged
with ensuring that many of these things

579
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:17,040
already occur, right? So not neglecting
other areas of the curriculum. Um, it's

580
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:21,280
just I I've not seen another governing
board adopt a policy with a specific

581
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:25,599
requirement on a superintendent um as
part of an initiative that that seemed

582
00:52:24,079 --> 00:52:31,760
more the administrative function
delegated to the superintendent.

583
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:39,920
» Okay. I I I'm sorry. I'm I'm a bit
baffled that we

584
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:42,920
would put in language that would protect
uh

585
00:52:45,839 --> 00:52:50,520
programs
um

586
00:52:52,079 --> 00:53:00,480
over core academic subjects. That that
just doesn't make sense to me. Um, and

587
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:04,880
when you say you haven't seen other
other boards, but at the same time, I

588
00:53:03,119 --> 00:53:11,440
think
it's our role as board members to uh be

589
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:16,000
able to work work on policies that
impact our own district and it shouldn't

590
00:53:13,839 --> 00:53:23,520
matter that other boards don't do it.
Um, it's our role to do it for our own

591
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:29,359
district. Uh but I I am truly baffled
that we wouldn't want to prioritize core

592
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:37,200
academic subjects over other other
programs. But board member Van Hook, if

593
00:53:32,319 --> 00:53:41,440
I may, um almost every aspect of our
children's education is geared towards

594
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:49,800
core subjects. Uh it's part of the
reason why those core subjects are

595
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:49,800
tested every spring. Um, and so I

596
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:56,960
I think it's important to keep in mind
every other aspect of our educational

597
00:53:55,040 --> 00:54:00,880
policies and procedures and how what
those are geared towards. And we have

598
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:04,960
spent so much time with respect to our
focus on student academic performance on

599
00:54:03,359 --> 00:54:08,800
these tests because they are mandated by
the state that we have to do them. And

600
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:11,440
so much of your child's time is spent
taking benchmark assessments. For those

601
00:54:10,319 --> 00:54:14,640
of you who have kids, you've gotten
notice in the past couple of weeks of

602
00:54:13,119 --> 00:54:19,760
the benchmark assessments that they have
been taking. All of those are core

603
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:24,720
subjects. So there is ample policy that
is centered around making sure our core

604
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:28,720
subjects are of focus. So, it would make
sense to me, at least in my perspective,

605
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:32,559
why we should have a policy that says,
hey, because we are focusing in all

606
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:36,640
these other areas, it's still important
that we maintain a well-rounded

607
00:54:34,559 --> 00:54:41,040
education because we also recognize and
understand the data that goes into

608
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:44,800
things like art, music, other types of
studies, social studies, for example,

609
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:51,040
that gives critical thinking. All of
those classes help perform in core

610
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:54,880
academics. So I I think and correct me
if I'm I'm wrong here from a at least

611
00:54:53,359 --> 00:54:59,119
the way I understand this from a legal
perspective is that because we already

612
00:54:56,640 --> 00:55:03,040
do it in these other areas saying it yet
again it's kind of like we just talked

613
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:07,280
about with our previous agenda item
having it in multiple places can create

614
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:13,640
problems for us when it comes to
updating new laws or redundancies and

615
00:55:09,599 --> 00:55:13,640
those types of things. Is that correct?

616
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:19,440
Madam President, board also I would also
say it it could run a f a foul of

617
00:55:18,319 --> 00:55:22,800
compliance, right? So if you're
directing the superintendent to do

618
00:55:20,720 --> 00:55:26,480
something and it's not cross cross
reference in policy correctly, you know,

619
00:55:24,720 --> 00:55:29,599
that could be a challenge. Um, I just
wanted to address member Van Hook, you

620
00:55:28,240 --> 00:55:34,240
know, the statement you made about
customizing policies according to your

621
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:39,200
community's needs is absolutely correct.
You know, Higgley has many custom

622
00:55:36,319 --> 00:55:43,760
policies that aren't the model ASBA
policy. That's just my legal advice and

623
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:47,680
you know your board is welcome to take
my advice or not take my advice advice

624
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:56,079
but that was just my recommendation to
to the board.

625
00:55:49,680 --> 00:56:02,160
» Thank you. Uh yeah I just our our
I think the district's priority should

626
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:08,720
always be our core subjects. uh and but
the way that the existing policy

627
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:15,760
it states that prioritizing reading and
mathematics should not result in neglect

628
00:56:10,799 --> 00:56:23,119
of other curricular u curricular areas.
I just I want to ensure that we are in

629
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:28,400
fact uh prioritizing our core academic
subjects because

630
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:34,319
that is what our kids are graded on.
that is what our district is graded on.

631
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:39,520
Um, and
those have to be a priority. And I just

632
00:56:37,599 --> 00:56:49,280
I think that the way that the language
currently is in the policy, uh, it it

633
00:56:43,599 --> 00:56:59,200
reverses what should be a priority. Um
my other concern also is uh for

634
00:56:55,839 --> 00:57:04,640
change number four
we had parental rights language in there

635
00:57:01,839 --> 00:57:12,480
and that language was completely removed
after uh

636
00:57:08,079 --> 00:57:17,599
it was reviewed by um Miss O'Brien. And
I'm curious to know why parental rights

637
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:24,119
um
was removed, parental notification,

638
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:24,119
parental rights, parental consent.

639
00:57:30,319 --> 00:57:37,359
It's for uh section F uh mental health
instruction.

640
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:44,359
Again,
I I just thought that that was redundant

641
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:44,359
because that's in other board policies,

642
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:56,920
but I mean that wasn't
that's been in our policy. Uh and

643
00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:04,160
that wasn't even a request to change.
that's something you decided to remove

644
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:08,480
when in fact
it should have remained because parents

645
00:58:06,079 --> 00:58:13,480
should be notified. Parents should give
consent uh and

646
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:23,920
it I I just it should have never been
removed. Miss O'Brien, um what you mean

647
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:28,319
by redundant is that again we have other
policies that mandate we have to notify

648
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:32,640
students uh and students parents of
specific uh classroom content that

649
00:58:31,119 --> 00:58:37,200
they're going through. Opt out is
provided in all kinds of our policies

650
00:58:34,799 --> 00:58:40,319
with respect to like English for example
and books and all of these things. Is

651
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:42,960
that what you mean by redundant?
>> Yes, that is what I mean by redundant.

652
00:58:41,975 --> 00:58:45,119
[clears throat] Those policies are
believe I believe are housed in chapter

653
00:58:44,559 --> 00:58:49,839
K.
>> Okay. Again, I am going to be inclined

654
00:58:47,839 --> 00:58:55,280
to listen to the legal advice of the
individual we employ to

655
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:58,640
understand the law and recommend
policies that are in accordance with the

656
00:58:56,640 --> 00:59:04,480
law that looks at uh you know all
aspects of that. Again, to be clear, we

657
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:08,079
still have parental rights. Those are
addressed in multiple policies, one of

658
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:13,599
which we'll be talking about again later
today. Um so I think that's important as

659
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:16,640
far as clarity. Miss Van Hook, do your
mic is still on. Do you still have more

660
00:59:15,119 --> 00:59:22,880
questions or comments before I motion?
>> Yeah, I mean clearly

661
00:59:19,839 --> 00:59:28,880
I don't oppose the entire policy. Uh,
but I think that

662
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:35,920
it
>> should be included in there because this

663
00:59:32,799 --> 00:59:41,160
specifically talks about
certain instruction

664
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:41,160
and

665
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:50,799
yes, I understand
we have um

666
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:57,599
clearly Arizona parental bill of rights.
Uh but when it comes to a policy that

667
00:59:54,559 --> 01:00:04,400
discusses specific instruction, I think
it's important for people to understand

668
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:09,440
that that specific instruction
um

669
01:00:06,799 --> 01:00:14,000
would require parental notification and
consent,

670
01:00:11,359 --> 01:00:18,160
but we can move on.
>> Sure. um for future. You also can motion

671
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:22,400
if you wish to put one of those things
and ultimately you may feel that way but

672
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:25,680
the rest of the board won't or wouldn't
if we're not motioning for that kind of

673
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:29,680
deal then it's not an option but you can
motion and we can vote on it to see if

674
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:32,720
we include it in that. I think at the
end of the last meeting when we had

675
01:00:31,119 --> 01:00:37,200
conversations with that you had
recommendations again just like our

676
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:41,119
previous policy I am grateful for the
opportunity that we as board members

677
01:00:38,799 --> 01:00:44,880
have to work with our administrators and
our legal team to say hey here are some

678
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:49,119
of the things that I have and we have
updated those changes and and especially

679
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:54,160
when they are you know beneficial with
respect to the law but again I am

680
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:59,520
inclined to listen to our legal advice
on what we should include our policies

681
01:00:56,720 --> 01:01:04,240
» right and president Just so you're
aware, I don't just

682
01:01:02,319 --> 01:01:11,760
uh sit there and create these policies
on my own. Um I do work with uh many

683
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:18,079
attorneys that I I am in contact with to
help me with language. Uh so I don't

684
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:25,680
want you to assume that this is just me
without uh an expert um sitting and just

685
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:29,280
creating policies. Um that I am in fact
working with attorneys. I know I

686
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:32,640
understand that and that you have
mentioned that before. I find that

687
01:01:30,559 --> 01:01:37,280
concerning. I find that concerning
because again we as a board and as a

688
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:42,000
district have legal employee that we
purchase and we pay for. I have no idea

689
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:45,599
any of the legal advice that you have
received. Who are they from? What are

690
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:52,480
their interests or any of that? like I I
I recommend and I I I commend your

691
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:58,720
desire to, you know, clearly seek out
other alternatives, but um the idea that

692
01:01:56,640 --> 01:02:03,200
just because you do that means that
therefore it is something that is

693
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:06,400
appropriate here, I have concerns with
because there's a there's a lot of

694
01:02:04,799 --> 01:02:13,599
things that are taking place there that
that none of us have any eyes on. Um and

695
01:02:10,799 --> 01:02:18,400
that's concerning. uh President Wade. Uh
and it's not something that uh I have

696
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:25,680
every right as a board member to be able
to get um help from people to be able to

697
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:31,119
write policy. Um so if that concerns
you, I'm sorry. Um I think that that's a

698
01:02:28,559 --> 01:02:35,920
a personal issue. Uh but as board
members, we have a right to do that. Um

699
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:39,440
I can contact somebody from ASBA to help
me with my policy.

700
01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:44,319
um there's several different
organizations that I can contact uh in

701
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:49,200
order to help me with the policy. And so
if you think that that's concerning,

702
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:54,799
then you might want to uh better
understand your role uh because we have

703
01:02:52,240 --> 01:03:00,720
the ability to do that as board members.
Um and I have asked uh several times

704
01:02:58,559 --> 01:03:08,240
that I I would love to be able to
discuss policy with our own attorney.

705
01:03:03,119 --> 01:03:12,880
Um, but that has not been um
something that I've been able to do. Um,

706
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:16,480
if it's something I can do, that'd be
great. I'd love to meet with our

707
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:21,599
attorney and discuss policy uh
especially somebody who is familiar with

708
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:29,359
our district. Um, but again, that has
not been an option. So I have to do um

709
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:34,880
and reach out to people that um are
willing to help um at the time instead

710
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:40,559
of after the fact.
So again having a policy having our

711
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:44,559
lawyers look at it that would be
conferring with our lawyers is it not

712
01:03:42,559 --> 01:03:48,160
lawyer I recommend these policies these
are the interests that I have lawyer

713
01:03:46,319 --> 01:03:51,200
provides feedback back of what they
recommend and what they don't recommend.

714
01:03:49,839 --> 01:03:55,039
And to be clear I never said you don't
have the opportunity to do that. You get

715
01:03:52,799 --> 01:04:02,000
to do whatever you want and and speak to
whomever you wish. What I'm saying is I

716
01:03:58,079 --> 01:04:07,119
am inclined to go with the legal advice
that we pay for.

717
01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:12,480
Right? And it would be wonderful to be
able to utilize the legal advice that we

718
01:04:09,599 --> 01:04:17,520
pay for. The problem is I don't have
that opportunity that I've asked for

719
01:04:15,599 --> 01:04:20,880
repeatedly. I would love to be able to
meet with our attorney to be able to go

720
01:04:19,039 --> 01:04:23,680
over policy, but I think we're getting
off track here.

721
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:27,280
So I'm [snorts] going to point of order
this.

722
01:04:25,039 --> 01:04:28,880
» I motion to approve IHA in structural
program.

723
01:04:28,079 --> 01:04:32,799
» Second.
>> That would be Miss Schultz.

724
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:34,559
All those in favor?
>> I I

725
01:04:34,079 --> 01:04:40,000
» I
>> I motion carries four to zero. 6.4

726
01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:46,200
second read and approval of JJAB limited
open closed forum. Any questions or

727
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:46,200
comments from the board before I motion?

728
01:04:46,799 --> 01:04:54,720
President Wade. The only change I have
is where it says if the principal

729
01:04:51,599 --> 01:05:02,920
chooses to accept materials,
uh, it's a period and then the, it needs

730
01:04:57,839 --> 01:05:02,920
to be comma and then the.

731
01:05:03,189 --> 01:05:05,209
[snorts]

732
01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:11,680
» Mr. Lenheiser, do you see where that is?
[snorts]

733
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:15,400
» Thank you.
>> Yes, I found that.

734
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:21,920
» All right. I motion to approve JJAB
limited open close forum with said

735
01:05:19,839 --> 01:05:24,160
comma. [snorts]
>> Second.

736
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:28,720
» That [clears throat] would be Miss
German.

737
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:30,000
That is a J. All those in favor?
>> I

738
01:05:29,359 --> 01:05:34,480
» I
>> I. Motion carries four to zero. This

739
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:38,480
brings us to discussion and possible
action regarding policy KB, parental

740
01:05:36,559 --> 01:05:42,960
involvement in education. Board member
Van Hook asked for discussion on this

741
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:50,240
policy. Board member Van Hook.
>> Thank you. Um

742
01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:57,599
I understand that the point of uh per
our discussion per my discussion with uh

743
01:05:52,720 --> 01:06:05,599
Mr. Latenheiser uh we talked about how
Arizona law has parental rights um and

744
01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:10,559
that the district must comply with the
Supreme Court ruling uh regardless

745
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:17,359
whether or not we pass this policy or
not. Um but that's precisely why I

746
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:25,520
believe that [clears throat] these
protections should be uh reflected in

747
01:06:19,839 --> 01:06:32,240
our policy. Um our policy should explain
the rights of parent that the rights

748
01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:37,680
parents have and uh establish procedure
for the district employees to follow. Uh

749
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:42,480
parents should not have to research
Supreme Court decisions and interpret

750
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:46,960
statutes to understand how their rights
how to exercise their rights uh when

751
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:52,720
they have a religious objection to
instructional material or activities.

752
01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:58,079
Our current policy already addresses
parental objections to harmful learning

753
01:06:55,680 --> 01:07:03,280
material and provides advanced access to
instructional material. However, it does

754
01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:09,039
not expressly explain the process of
religious accommodation requests, what

755
01:07:06,079 --> 01:07:13,839
happens while a request is pending or
how the district will provide meaningful

756
01:07:11,359 --> 01:07:19,200
advanced notice when a rel religious
conflict is reasonably anticipated.

757
01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:24,559
Parents cannot meaningfully consider
whether to request an accommodation if

758
01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:29,520
they don't know what particular material
will be used for their children.

759
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:34,240
The district may believe a lesson has a
positive educational purpose, but that

760
01:07:32,079 --> 01:07:40,480
does not eliminate its obligation to
request applicable parent parental

761
01:07:36,559 --> 01:07:46,640
religious um to respect applicable
parental religious rights. My proposed

762
01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:52,160
changes would make those protections
more visible to parents and establish a

763
01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:57,039
clear procedure for staff.
They would also provide

764
01:07:54,720 --> 01:08:01,680
that if administration recommend
recommends denying a religious opt out

765
01:07:59,599 --> 01:08:05,839
request, the governing board makes the
final determination.

766
01:08:03,599 --> 01:08:11,280
Whether we amend this policy or not, the
district must comply with applicable

767
01:08:08,319 --> 01:08:15,839
Arizona law and constitutional
requirements established by the Supreme

768
01:08:13,359 --> 01:08:20,799
Court. Putting those protections into
policy KB helps ensure that parents

769
01:08:18,799 --> 01:08:24,799
understand their right, staff
understands their responsibilities, and

770
01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:31,920
the district has a clear, consistent
process for complying with the law.

771
01:08:28,719 --> 01:08:36,000
Um, and so
that is the purpose of my

772
01:08:33,839 --> 01:08:41,319
recommendations because of the Supreme
Court ruling. And uh

773
01:08:41,359 --> 01:08:53,600
if a parent does object,
then that child has to be prevented from

774
01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:57,120
participating in that material
until

775
01:08:55,120 --> 01:09:03,359
the teacher and administration figure
out what alternative that student

776
01:09:01,359 --> 01:09:07,759
alternative activity that student can
do.

777
01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:12,640
uh they can't continue to
expose the child to something that their

778
01:09:09,759 --> 01:09:19,120
parents are objecting to. So these are
things that I think needs to be uh

779
01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:30,839
whether again it's regulations or
whether it's in policy uh we have to

780
01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:30,839
abide by these laws. Um,

781
01:09:31,679 --> 01:09:34,679
so

782
01:09:35,440 --> 01:09:42,799
you know, I I'd love to discuss it
whether you know, how do you how do you

783
01:09:40,239 --> 01:09:50,480
foresee us
upholding

784
01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:55,360
these parental rights and and these laws
without

785
01:09:53,359 --> 01:09:58,360
putting it in in the policy or
regulation?

786
01:09:58,719 --> 01:10:05,600
Miss O'Brien, can you help me understand
our current policy KB? Does it not

787
01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:10,480
already include in accordance with the
law?

788
01:10:07,440 --> 01:10:18,719
Your policy KB, you have a regulation
KBR that operationalizes Arizona law.

789
01:10:14,480 --> 01:10:25,199
And then um your policy KB
has verbatim the parents [snorts] bill

790
01:10:20,480 --> 01:10:29,600
of rights. Um and then you have a KBEB.
Um

791
01:10:27,199 --> 01:10:35,360
and also there's cross reference to
policy I J which goes to instructional

792
01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:41,520
materials and then in um chapter A your
policy ABAA also talks about parents

793
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:46,400
rights. So it is already um discussed um
quite a bit throughout your policies. I

794
01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:50,480
I don't recommend including the changes.
The parents bill of rights is very

795
01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:54,239
rigorous. Nationally, Arizona's at the
forefront of parents rights, you know,

796
01:10:52,480 --> 01:10:58,560
with regard to directing the moral and
the religious upbringing of a child. And

797
01:10:56,159 --> 01:11:04,640
so, um, just because of all the
different places those those options are

798
01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:09,199
in policy currently, I think it it meets
the legal requirements, um, in Arizona

799
01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:14,400
law and the case of Mahammud versus
Taylor. Um, if the board wished to to

800
01:11:12,480 --> 01:11:18,320
look at the regulation, it could do so,
but looking at the face of it, it

801
01:11:16,480 --> 01:11:22,880
complies with the legal requirements
currently in place.

802
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:26,480
» Okay. Thank you,
>> President [clears throat] W. Miss

803
01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:31,080
O'Brien. So
with all these cross reference policies,

804
01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:39,280
where
would we

805
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:45,800
see uh
if a parent does have a religious

806
01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:45,800
objection to something

807
01:11:47,199 --> 01:11:55,600
staff does at that
sit with that situation?

808
01:11:53,600 --> 01:12:01,040
» Sure. Um,
President Wade, um, member Van Hook, um,

809
01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:04,719
your policy KBR,
um, says parents who wish to object to

810
01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:09,760
any learning materials or learning
activities may do so under the

811
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:15,679
provisions of J KBN regulations. It
doesn't specify who that objection goes

812
01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:20,080
to, but um, I would say it goes to any
adult. you know, if a parent received

813
01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:25,920
that, they would have a a professional
duty to report that to an administrator

814
01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:29,199
and then honor that objection.
Miss Van Hook, I can express at least

815
01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:33,440
from my experience in the past when a
parent has recommended it to me um in

816
01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:37,760
that they don't want their kid to
participate with this specific thing.

817
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:41,679
So, like let's say there was per our
policies something that we were doing in

818
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:45,280
content that needed the parent
permission slip to get sent home. when

819
01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:48,000
it does not come back, regardless if
I've heard from the parent or not, that

820
01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:52,960
kid gets removed from that assignment.
They're not allowed to participate. Um,

821
01:12:50,159 --> 01:12:56,560
when the parent contacts, we ultimately
set that kid up and discuss with the

822
01:12:55,040 --> 01:13:00,000
parent what the alternative assignment
is and what that plan looks like for

823
01:12:58,080 --> 01:13:02,800
that kid. Um, I have also had a
situation, it wasn't for my class

824
01:13:01,280 --> 01:13:06,239
specifically, but instead of the parent
coming to the teacher, the parent went

825
01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:09,760
to that admin, and then the admin went
through the process of working with that

826
01:13:08,159 --> 01:13:13,199
teacher and that parent for that kid's
alternative assignment.

827
01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:21,440
» Okay.
Um I just want to ensure that uh

828
01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:25,840
aside from the regular objections to
whether it's explicit content or

829
01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:31,360
whatever
that

830
01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:37,360
everybody is aware of the Mimmude versus
Taylor ruling and that and that

831
01:13:34,159 --> 01:13:43,040
specifically applies to just religious
um beliefs. Um and that in those

832
01:13:40,480 --> 01:13:49,920
instances
that the accommodation is there just

833
01:13:46,719 --> 01:13:55,840
like we would accommodate anything else.
Um that's my main concern.

834
01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:59,760
That's all. Thanks.
Okay. So, um from a legal perspective,

835
01:13:58,159 --> 01:14:03,440
if we're not motioning, can we just move
on or do I have to do something in order

836
01:14:01,679 --> 01:14:11,440
since there is no motion at hand if
we're not um going to make any changes

837
01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:15,840
to this policy?
U Madam President, you just agenda to to

838
01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:20,000
discuss and take possible action
regarding the policy. So if the board

839
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:22,800
doesn't wish to take any action, they
could just move on.

840
01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:25,679
» Okay. Because the possible Miss Van
Hook, do you want to motion or are you

841
01:14:24,239 --> 01:14:31,440
fine if we move on?
>> I I um President Wade, I I don't know if

842
01:14:29,440 --> 01:14:35,920
the tech can pull this up. I mean,
obviously everybody who's watching has

843
01:14:33,199 --> 01:14:40,880
like got some eyes on this, right? I
would hope so because I am so grateful

844
01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:46,719
this uh Arizona is really generous with
parental rights and that is something

845
01:14:42,719 --> 01:14:52,640
once I gotten more in this area um
noticed that uh in here it's

846
01:14:49,040 --> 01:15:01,760
immunization opt out um it also talks
about uh content parent choice to opt

847
01:14:56,400 --> 01:15:08,560
out um I I mean yes this is a strict
policy so the wording is not

848
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:14,480
long, but it is very specific and I feel
like it's very thorough and gets to the

849
01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:20,080
point, gets to the meat, which um which
I feel like we're treading on more

850
01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:26,159
procedure perhaps. Um so I'm really kind
of confident in this policy. So I hope

851
01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:29,520
that you guys got some eyes on it. And
um let's see, what did I write in my

852
01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:34,320
notes?
uh par parental right and and per the

853
01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:40,719
parents bill of rights is constantly
referenced in here. [snorts]

854
01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:45,040
So I'm comfortable where we're at
legislatively. We don't need to change

855
01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:49,360
anything like the previous things on
there. So I'm comfortable where we're

856
01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:53,440
at. Something else I'd like to add for
parents who are listening at the start

857
01:15:51,199 --> 01:15:56,640
of every year we have curriculum night.
Um come to curriculum night, learn what

858
01:15:55,360 --> 01:15:59,840
your kids are going to be going through
for the whole semester. So, especially

859
01:15:58,239 --> 01:16:03,520
if you have concerns as a parent with
respect to your religious belief at home

860
01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:06,560
or other just personal beliefs in
general, if it is something that you

861
01:16:04,800 --> 01:16:10,800
have genuine concern about, come to
curriculum night. Um, we even offset the

862
01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:14,239
times if you have kids that are
elementary or middle and or high school

863
01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:18,560
so you can make it to all of them.
>> President Wade, it even has in here

864
01:16:16,080 --> 01:16:22,000
library um references that parents
always have access to that. Obviously,

865
01:16:20,320 --> 01:16:24,960
curriculum, we all know that we always
have access to that, right? Reach out to

866
01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:30,239
the district if you guys have any
questions. We also do that curriculum

867
01:16:27,199 --> 01:16:35,120
review before we adopt anything. So, you
know, and whether or not parents show

868
01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:39,400
up, that's up up to them. Um, but I feel
like this is really thorough.

869
01:16:40,719 --> 01:16:47,280
All right, I take it that I'm going to
move on to 6.6 discussion and possible

870
01:16:44,320 --> 01:16:51,280
action regarding board self-evaluation.
Um, it says board discussion on the

871
01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:54,320
holding of the board self-evaluation.
Every year we've kind of voted on it.

872
01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:58,960
Um, in the time frame that I've been on
here, we've done it some years and some

873
01:16:56,320 --> 01:17:03,040
years not. Um, I'm I'm open to
discussion. I'll I'll lead off the

874
01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:07,840
discussion in that I don't recommend we
have it this year. A, we don't have a

875
01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:12,880
full board currently. Um, and so I think
that plays a part in this. Also, in at

876
01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:18,239
least the four years I have been on the
board, so I recognize that's a a short

877
01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:25,760
window. um the year that we had uh an
election in which possible seats were

878
01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:29,600
going to be changed um we didn't um so I
am on the side of not doing that but I'm

879
01:17:27,679 --> 01:17:34,840
I'm willing to discuss with the group
how everybody feels with respect to uh

880
01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:34,840
board eval

881
01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:46,159
» I'm okay with passing this this year
>> with not doing so that is correct okay

882
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:49,679
so we got two
I agree with it being election year.

883
01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:53,840
» So then why don't I motion for that and
then we'll we'll see where that lands.

884
01:17:51,199 --> 01:17:56,400
Great. Good call. I motion to not
conduct a board self evaluation.

885
01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:59,760
» Second.
>> That would be Miss Schultz seconding.

886
01:17:58,320 --> 01:18:05,040
All those in favor?
>> I I

887
01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:10,000
» I motion carries 4 to zero.
6.7 approval of overnight andor

888
01:18:07,440 --> 01:18:13,440
outofstate staff travel for journalism.
Any questions or comments from the board

889
01:18:11,440 --> 01:18:19,520
before I motion?
President Wade,

890
01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:27,640
I did ask for this to be pulled. Um,
just based on my research,

891
01:18:22,719 --> 01:18:27,640
I understand that uh

892
01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:37,040
the individual attending this,
it's a volunteer role. Uh,

893
01:18:35,199 --> 01:18:44,880
he's providing, he's doing a
presentation. Uh, I get that. Uh but

894
01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:49,760
again this isn't simply a journalism
skills conference.

895
01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:55,760
They actually
uh

896
01:18:51,840 --> 01:19:02,080
they require attendance uh for certifi
for they require attendance at

897
01:18:58,000 --> 01:19:11,280
designated sessions for a specific
official DEI certificate. Now, we aren't

898
01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:16,320
provided sessions. We aren't provided uh
material as to

899
01:19:14,080 --> 01:19:22,719
what they plan to attend, what they plan
not to attend. Um,

900
01:19:19,440 --> 01:19:29,440
but the organizers
are specifically soliciting uh

901
01:19:26,480 --> 01:19:34,480
presentations addressing
things that I've shared concerns about.

902
01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:41,840
um
addressing DEI representation, newsroom

903
01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:50,560
diversity, and um
they even talk about uh equitable

904
01:19:46,320 --> 01:19:55,040
grading and sexual orientation, gender
identity.

905
01:19:52,080 --> 01:20:01,679
I mean, what that has to do with
journalism is beyond me, but

906
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:06,320
I've said this before and I'll say it
again. I support professional

907
01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:12,080
development focused on whatever the
skill is. Uh,

908
01:20:09,600 --> 01:20:16,560
but when they
include,

909
01:20:14,305 --> 01:20:22,640
[snorts] you know, identity based
programming and um

910
01:20:19,840 --> 01:20:29,719
all that other
garbage. Uh I think it it dilutes the

911
01:20:30,480 --> 01:20:40,320
the purpose. Um so that's my concern
with this. Um

912
01:20:38,080 --> 01:20:45,840
so we are aware this is the national
high school journalism convention um

913
01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:50,000
which also includes aspects of yearbook
um and journalism [clears throat] in

914
01:20:47,280 --> 01:20:53,840
general for the high school level. Um I
I recognize your concerns with respect

915
01:20:52,239 --> 01:20:58,159
to DEI. One of the things that I think
is important, our high school campuses

916
01:20:55,520 --> 01:21:02,560
have all manner of clubs. Um and it
would be important for the individuals

917
01:20:59,840 --> 01:21:06,880
who are including those clubs in their
yearbook or including those clubs in a

918
01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:12,159
newspaper write up and those kinds of
things to um you know be accepting of

919
01:21:09,920 --> 01:21:16,320
the fact that there are students of all
types uh that could exist on their

920
01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:22,320
campuses. I think it's remarkable that
we have one of our very own presenting

921
01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:27,760
um at this and I think that's great. Uh
so yeah, I I think uh it is to be

922
01:21:25,280 --> 01:21:32,920
commended the idea that one of ours gets
to be chosen to present at a national

923
01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:32,920
convention.

924
01:21:33,040 --> 01:21:44,320
» President Wade, we have a DEI um waiver
that all attendees for trainings uh sign

925
01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:47,040
that they will not attend.
those. Was this signed for this

926
01:21:46,159 --> 01:21:51,719
individual?
>> Yes. All of our employees do that.

927
01:21:52,080 --> 01:21:58,080
» Okay. I motion to approve the staff
travel to National High School

928
01:21:56,159 --> 01:22:00,480
Journalism Convention.
>> Second.

929
01:21:58,480 --> 01:22:03,280
» That would be Miss Schultz seconding.
All those in favor?

930
01:22:01,840 --> 01:22:07,040
» I.
>> I. No. Uh. All those opposed?

931
01:22:06,239 --> 01:22:11,600
» Nay.
>> Motion carries 3 to one. Does anyone

932
01:22:09,280 --> 01:22:15,440
have any future uh requests for Sorry, I
read that wrong. It's apparently later

933
01:22:13,520 --> 01:22:21,280
in my brain. Does anyone have any
requests for future agenda items? That's

934
01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:25,760
how that sentence should go.
Not today.

935
01:22:23,600 --> 01:22:28,320
» All right. Next time we'll get you in
October. I motion to adjourn this

936
01:22:27,679 --> 01:22:31,120
meeting.
>> Second.

937
01:22:28,960 --> 01:22:35,679
» That would be Miss Van Hook seconding.
All those in favor. I motion carries

938
01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:39,000
four to zero. Meeting adjourned. Drive
safe everybody.