1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,240 Close. Same sign. 2 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:03,919 This meeting is adjourned. 3 00:00:03,919 --> 00:00:06,240 >> You didn't move or it doesn't move in. 4 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:08,800 >> Oh, I read so fast. I would entertain a 5 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:10,480 motion and a second to adjourn the 6 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:10,960 meeting. 7 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:12,639 >> Second. 8 00:00:12,639 --> 00:00:14,080 >> All in favor say I. 9 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:14,880 >> I. 10 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:16,640 >> All oppose. Same sign. This meeting is 11 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:18,320 adjourned. We'll begin our regular 12 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:21,680 meeting in about a minute. 13 00:00:21,680 --> 00:01:44,469 >> My bad. 14 00:01:44,479 --> 00:01:46,320 Good evening. I would like to call the 15 00:01:46,320 --> 00:01:49,680 April 27th, 2026 Hillyard City Council 16 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,799 regular meeting to order. 17 00:01:52,799 --> 00:01:54,880 Please stand for the pledge of 18 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:56,479 allegiance, which will be led this 19 00:01:56,479 --> 00:01:58,640 evening by the Weeblows den from pack 20 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:00,240 841. 21 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,560 Um, Weeblows, come on out. Oh, it's not 22 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:03,840 the Weeblows this evening. We got the 23 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,240 Cub Scouts. Oh, we have the Weeblows. 24 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,879 I'm Hey guys. Okay, lead us in the 25 00:02:08,879 --> 00:02:10,319 pledge, please. You ready? 26 00:02:10,319 --> 00:02:13,200 >> Right there. 27 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,760 >> Pledge algiance. I pledge allegiance to 28 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:18,800 the United States of America and to the 29 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:22,239 republic for which it stands. One nation 30 00:02:22,239 --> 00:02:25,360 under God, indivisible, with liberty and 31 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:27,200 justice for all. 32 00:02:27,200 --> 00:03:28,149 >> Thank you guys. 33 00:03:28,159 --> 00:03:30,239 Okay. All right. D, would you please 34 00:03:30,239 --> 00:03:31,680 call the role? 35 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:32,720 >> Mr. Betts, 36 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:33,200 >> here. 37 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:34,640 >> Vice President Katone 38 00:03:34,640 --> 00:03:35,040 >> here. 39 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:36,159 >> Miss Parker Jones 40 00:03:36,159 --> 00:03:36,480 >> here. 41 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:37,360 >> Miss Russell 42 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:37,840 >> here. 43 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:38,720 >> Mr. Teter 44 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:39,040 >> here. 45 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:40,000 >> Miss Vermillion 46 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:40,400 >> here. 47 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:41,440 >> President Cole 48 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,720 >> here. Our first item of business this 49 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:46,879 evening is to administer the oath oath 50 00:03:46,879 --> 00:03:49,040 of office to our new city manager, 51 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,920 Joshua Roush. We are so excited for him 52 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:53,440 to hit the ground running and to 53 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:54,720 continue all of the great things 54 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:56,480 happening in our city. And I would like 55 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:58,799 to invite Josh and his family to meet me 56 00:03:58,799 --> 00:04:15,350 up there to administer the oath. 57 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,079 just mute the mic. 58 00:04:18,079 --> 00:04:21,120 >> Okay, we are going to postpone that item 59 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:24,080 and come back to it. Um, so for this 60 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:25,759 evening, let's move into approval of 61 00:04:25,759 --> 00:04:27,840 minutes. Council has copies of the 62 00:04:27,840 --> 00:04:30,720 minutes from the April 13th, 2026 63 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:32,240 regular meeting. Are there any 64 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,840 additions, corrections, or revisions? 65 00:04:35,840 --> 00:04:37,199 Hearing none, these minutes stand 66 00:04:37,199 --> 00:04:39,199 approved. We will now go into commission 67 00:04:39,199 --> 00:04:41,440 and board reports. Board of zoning 68 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:43,440 appeals, Councilwoman Rousul. 69 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:45,680 >> We had a meeting last week. Um I learned 70 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:47,840 a lot about sheds and fences and 71 00:04:47,840 --> 00:04:49,759 easements. So um if anybody wants to 72 00:04:49,759 --> 00:04:51,440 learn about that, welcome to our meeting 73 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:53,440 next month. 74 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:55,120 >> Wonderful. Destination Hillyard. 75 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,680 Councilwoman Vermillion wanted to remind 76 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,400 everybody about the 43026 77 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:05,680 party this Thursday, April 30th. 26. 78 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:07,680 Great. Environmental Sustainability 79 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,400 Commission, Council Member Million. 80 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:14,320 >> Um, not specifically ESC, but um, Darby 81 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:17,039 Accord related. Hot off the press today, 82 00:05:17,039 --> 00:05:19,440 the city of Columbus announced a 83 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:21,840 postponement on the Darby Accord 84 00:05:21,840 --> 00:05:25,039 amendment until uh, the second phase of 85 00:05:25,039 --> 00:05:27,600 the ODNR study is received. So, that's 86 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:29,919 good news. 87 00:05:29,919 --> 00:05:31,600 >> All right. Keep Hillard beautiful, 88 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:33,840 Councilman Betts. Well, we had a uh a 89 00:05:33,840 --> 00:05:35,840 volunteer cleanup event on the 18th of 90 00:05:35,840 --> 00:05:38,960 April. 22 volunteers showed up and we uh 91 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:43,039 picked up 27 bags of garbage, two tires, 92 00:05:43,039 --> 00:05:45,199 and some old lumber. So, thanks once 93 00:05:45,199 --> 00:05:47,600 again to all the volunteers who came out 94 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:50,720 uh to help us keep Hillyear beautiful. 95 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:52,800 >> Okay. Morpsy, Mr. Rous, 96 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:54,240 >> I will be attending new board member 97 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:56,240 orientation on May 5th and the Morpsy 98 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,320 meeting on the 14th. Looking forward to 99 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:00,560 it. Planning and Zoning Commission. 100 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:02,560 Councilwoman Parker Jones. 101 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:04,160 >> Nothing new to report. Our next meeting 102 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:06,160 is on May 14th. 103 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:08,240 >> Public Arts Commission. Vice President 104 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:09,680 Katone. 105 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:13,840 >> We meet next Monday, May 4th. 106 00:06:13,840 --> 00:06:15,440 >> Recreation and Parks Advisory 107 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:19,039 Commission. Councilwoman Rousul. 108 00:06:19,039 --> 00:06:21,360 We had a presentation by students from 109 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,479 Miami University about recycling in 110 00:06:24,479 --> 00:06:26,160 Hillyard and how to make it more 111 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,080 efficient and how uh we can learn more. 112 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:29,919 So they will we we posed several 113 00:06:29,919 --> 00:06:33,120 questions about one thing that was posed 114 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,120 is that if something is dirty and you 115 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:36,639 put it in the recycling bin, they will 116 00:06:36,639 --> 00:06:38,560 automatically throw in the trash. Things 117 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:39,919 have to be clean in the recycling bin. 118 00:06:39,919 --> 00:06:41,360 So we learned that and they're going to 119 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,000 propose another um another study or 120 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,160 update to the study in a month um so 121 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:47,680 that we can make recycling more 122 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,160 efficient in all of Hillyard. 123 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:52,080 >> Wonderful. Aging and place committee. 124 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,560 Vice President Katone. Yes, we we have 125 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:56,080 two new people that are joining the 126 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:57,680 aging and place committee and we'll be 127 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:00,639 voting on that tonight. Very excited for 128 00:07:00,639 --> 00:07:02,479 both of them. One of them is here with 129 00:07:02,479 --> 00:07:04,800 us tonight. And then we were tableabling 130 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:06,639 at the health fair which was previously 131 00:07:06,639 --> 00:07:08,639 the senior health fair and the room was 132 00:07:08,639 --> 00:07:12,080 packed. It's awesome. All right. For 133 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:14,639 recognition and special guests, um we do 134 00:07:14,639 --> 00:07:17,360 have two items this evening. First, I 135 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:19,039 would like to read a proclamation for 136 00:07:19,039 --> 00:07:21,039 National Library Week. Although National 137 00:07:21,039 --> 00:07:22,880 Library Week was observed April 9th 138 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,039 through 15th, it is important for us to 139 00:07:25,039 --> 00:07:27,039 recognize the ongoing contributions of 140 00:07:27,039 --> 00:07:28,960 our libraries and most importantly the 141 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,120 pivotal role that the Hillyard Library 142 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,440 location plays in our community. Youth 143 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:36,080 services librarian Carissa White is here 144 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:37,919 this evening to accept the proclamation 145 00:07:37,919 --> 00:07:40,000 and will share a few words following the 146 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,319 presentation. I'm now going to read the 147 00:07:42,319 --> 00:07:48,870 proclamation. 148 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,280 Whereas libraries are essential public 149 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:53,440 institutions that serve as centers for 150 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:55,840 learning, literacy, creativity, and 151 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:57,840 civic engagement for residents of all 152 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:01,039 ages. And whereas libraries provide free 153 00:08:01,039 --> 00:08:03,599 and equitable access to information, 154 00:08:03,599 --> 00:08:06,080 technology, educational programs, and 155 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:08,160 cultural resources, helping to 156 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:09,840 strengthen communities and promote 157 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,080 lifelong learning. And whereas 158 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,160 librarians and library staff play a 159 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,479 pivotal a vital role in guiding 160 00:08:16,479 --> 00:08:19,199 individuals to reliable information, 161 00:08:19,199 --> 00:08:21,680 fostering a love of reading, supporting 162 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,560 students and job seekers, and promoting 163 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:26,720 digital skills necessary in today's 164 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:29,680 world. And whereas libraries serve as 165 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:31,520 welcoming spaces that encourage 166 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,320 inclusion, curiosity, innovation, and 167 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:36,479 collaboration, enriching the quality of 168 00:08:36,479 --> 00:08:38,640 life for all who live, work, and learn 169 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:41,200 in our community. Now therefore, I, 170 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,279 Emily Cole, president of Hillyard City 171 00:08:43,279 --> 00:08:46,160 Council, Hillyard, Ohio, on behalf of 172 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:48,480 City Council, proclaim April 9th through 173 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:52,320 15th, 2026 as National Library Week in 174 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,000 the city of Hilliard and encourage 175 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:55,920 residents to visit our local library, 176 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:58,320 participate in library programs, and 177 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:00,320 celebrate the significant role libraries 178 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:01,920 play in building a knowledgeable, 179 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,240 connected, and vibrant community. And 180 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:06,480 I'd now like to ask Cararissa White to 181 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:09,200 join us at the podium and say a few 182 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,440 words. 183 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,839 Thank you for joining us, Cararissa. Um, 184 00:09:13,839 --> 00:09:15,920 the button down there. Yep, there you 185 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,480 go. Thank you for having me. Um, 186 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:18,800 >> hello. 187 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:20,000 Hello. 188 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,080 >> I am Hollow Sombra. I worked alongside 189 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:25,920 the project with Cararissa. 190 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:30,070 >> I can talk. Yes. 191 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:31,760 Good evening members of the Hillyard 192 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:33,200 City Council and thank you for the 193 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,040 opportunity to speak today. My name is 194 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,279 Holla Samra, an Ohio State political 195 00:09:37,279 --> 00:09:39,440 science and history student. I recently 196 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:41,040 had the privilege of working alongside 197 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:43,200 the community at the Columbus Metropolan 198 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,279 Library Hillard branch where I helped 199 00:09:45,279 --> 00:09:47,200 organize a mock voting experience for 200 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:49,200 children. This initiative created a 201 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:50,800 voting booth where young participants 202 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:52,480 cast their ballots on a very important 203 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:54,320 issue, their favorite children book 204 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:56,080 character, choosing between Pete the 205 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,480 Cat, Pigeon, and Piggy. While the 206 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:00,240 subject matter was playful, the purpose 207 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,240 behind it was deeply meaningful. This 208 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:03,680 project was designed to introduce 209 00:10:03,680 --> 00:10:05,440 children to the voting process in an 210 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:07,680 accessible, engaging, and memorable way. 211 00:10:07,680 --> 00:10:10,000 By allowing allowing them to physically 212 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,000 step up into a voting booth, make a 213 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:13,519 choice, and participate in a shared 214 00:10:13,519 --> 00:10:15,680 civic activity, we are planting early 215 00:10:15,680 --> 00:10:18,160 seeds of democratic participation. These 216 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:19,760 are the kinds of experiences that turn 217 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:22,079 abstract ideas like voting or government 218 00:10:22,079 --> 00:10:24,480 into something real and understandable. 219 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:26,160 What stood out most was not just the act 220 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,000 of voting itself, but the conversations 221 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,160 that followed. Children left the booth 222 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:31,600 talking with excitement about their 223 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:33,519 choices, comparing votes with friends, 224 00:10:33,519 --> 00:10:35,440 and explaining their reasoning. This is 225 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:37,680 where civic education begins, not in 226 00:10:37,680 --> 00:10:40,000 textbooks, but in dialogue, curiosity, 227 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,240 and shared experience. This kind of 228 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,240 engagement helps set young people up to 229 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,640 become active participants in democracy. 230 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:48,399 More importantly, it extends beyond the 231 00:10:48,399 --> 00:10:50,800 library walls. When children go home and 232 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:52,480 talk about what they did, explaining to 233 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:54,480 parents how they voted, it creates 234 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:56,000 opportunities for families to have 235 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:57,040 conversations about civic 236 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:58,959 responsibility, community involvement, 237 00:10:58,959 --> 00:11:00,480 and the importance of participating in 238 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:02,640 the democratic process. In that way, 239 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:04,480 civic engagement is not only taught in 240 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:06,079 public spaces, but carried into the 241 00:11:06,079 --> 00:11:08,640 household and reinforced over time. 242 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:10,320 Experiences like this help build a 243 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,320 culture of participation. 244 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,079 I want to take a moment to express my 245 00:11:14,079 --> 00:11:15,839 sincere appreciation for the support and 246 00:11:15,839 --> 00:11:17,680 collaboration of city council member 247 00:11:17,680 --> 00:11:20,000 Nadia Russul. Her willingness to engage 248 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:21,839 with this project, offer guidance, and 249 00:11:21,839 --> 00:11:23,279 support its development made a 250 00:11:23,279 --> 00:11:24,880 significant difference. Working 251 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:26,720 alongside her was a refreshing and 252 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:28,560 encouraging experience, and it reflects 253 00:11:28,560 --> 00:11:30,079 the kind of leadership that values 254 00:11:30,079 --> 00:11:31,680 community- based learning and youth 255 00:11:31,680 --> 00:11:34,000 engagement. Her mentorship helped ensure 256 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:35,360 that this initiative is not only 257 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,360 successful, but also thoughtful in how 258 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:39,600 it incorporated the civic concepts to 259 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,079 kids. In closing, I believe programs 260 00:11:42,079 --> 00:11:43,920 like this are small but powerful steps 261 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:45,279 towards strengthening democratic 262 00:11:45,279 --> 00:11:46,959 participation in our community. Thank 263 00:11:46,959 --> 00:11:48,160 you again for your time and your 264 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:49,600 continued commitment and fostering 265 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:51,279 community and a strong sense of civic 266 00:11:51,279 --> 00:11:52,560 engagement throughout the Hillyard 267 00:11:52,560 --> 00:11:56,230 community. 268 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:57,920 » And I just want to follow up. It was it 269 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,399 was a great turnout. I think we had over 270 00:12:00,399 --> 00:12:03,360 400 500 votes. Um there was a lot of 271 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,360 debate among staff on who they would 272 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:07,440 pick. Um so there was a lot of 273 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:09,360 conversation around it. We had kids 274 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:10,800 coming and asking where do I vote? Where 275 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:14,000 do I vote? Um I saw adults doing it as 276 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:15,680 well without children who were excited 277 00:12:15,680 --> 00:12:17,680 to vote. So it was a great experience 278 00:12:17,680 --> 00:12:20,560 and we really appreciate um 279 00:12:20,560 --> 00:12:23,360 Paula for all of her work and Miss Razul 280 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:25,920 as well. So thank you so much um and 281 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:27,279 thank you for the proclamation for 282 00:12:27,279 --> 00:13:30,470 National Library Week. 283 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,519 Okay. The second item that we have this 284 00:13:33,519 --> 00:13:35,440 evening under recognition and special 285 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:37,920 guests is a mural application from the 286 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:39,920 Franklin County Fairgrounds for council 287 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:41,519 consideration. 288 00:13:41,519 --> 00:13:43,600 Amy, I believe, is here to speak on 289 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:47,829 that. 290 00:13:47,839 --> 00:13:50,880 Hi Amy, welcome. And just turn the mic 291 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:57,110 on and we're happy to have you. 292 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:59,839 Good evening. I'm Amy Fleshman. I'm the 293 00:13:59,839 --> 00:14:02,959 Franklin County Fairgrounds Manager. Um 294 00:14:02,959 --> 00:14:05,600 the Franklin County Agricultural Society 295 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:08,320 is the overarching 296 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:10,560 community organization that oversees the 297 00:14:10,560 --> 00:14:14,320 fairgrounds. We're a 501c3 nonprofit. 298 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:15,839 And just to give you just a little bit 299 00:14:15,839 --> 00:14:18,560 of background because it's pretty cool. 300 00:14:18,560 --> 00:14:20,639 Um the time that I've spent at the 301 00:14:20,639 --> 00:14:23,120 Franklin County A Society, I've been 302 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:24,800 planting seeds because that's what 303 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,199 agricultural people do, right? So every 304 00:14:27,199 --> 00:14:30,160 time I get in front of a new audience, I 305 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:31,440 let them know that there are 306 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,120 opportunities at the fairgrounds in 307 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:34,959 order for them to become an active 308 00:14:34,959 --> 00:14:37,199 engaging participant in helping that 309 00:14:37,199 --> 00:14:40,880 facility. So, one of those opportunities 310 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:44,079 came when Melissa Muth reached out and 311 00:14:44,079 --> 00:14:46,959 said the environmental sustainability 312 00:14:46,959 --> 00:14:49,199 group was looking for a place to hold 313 00:14:49,199 --> 00:14:51,839 their recycling event that they had 314 00:14:51,839 --> 00:14:53,839 previously done it in some other places 315 00:14:53,839 --> 00:14:56,320 where it backed up traffic. And as a 316 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:58,240 good neighbor in Hillyard, even though 317 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:00,720 we had another activity going on that 318 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:03,600 day that was for 4 oriented, we merged 319 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:06,160 the two together. So, it created this 320 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:07,920 really great partnership for the last 321 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:11,760 several years. And as she's there, um, I 322 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:13,040 said, you know, there's there's this 323 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:15,920 vision to make this place better, and it 324 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:18,720 takes people and partners, and I'm just 325 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:20,480 going to share a few things that I have 326 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:23,440 a vision for, and we've got lots of 327 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:25,600 opportunities there, right? It's a large 328 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:28,800 footprint. It's um, it takes a lot of 329 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:31,440 time. It takes a lot of resources. And 330 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:33,519 so the only way that we can do that is 331 00:15:33,519 --> 00:15:36,320 with community support. Well, Melissa 332 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:40,079 reached out last fall and said that the 333 00:15:40,079 --> 00:15:42,720 Keep Hillyard Beautiful group that she's 334 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:45,680 a part of would like to work with us to 335 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:47,760 bring one of those ideas to life. And 336 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:49,839 that's the mural that's up on the screen 337 00:15:49,839 --> 00:15:53,279 right now. And that will be showcased on 338 00:15:53,279 --> 00:15:55,759 one of the buildings that is on the 339 00:15:55,759 --> 00:15:59,360 north side of Northwest Parkway, which 340 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:01,680 currently needs some paint. So, pri 341 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:04,399 prior to the mural going up, it's going 342 00:16:04,399 --> 00:16:07,199 to get painted, freshened up, and then 343 00:16:07,199 --> 00:16:09,199 this very delightful mural is going to 344 00:16:09,199 --> 00:16:13,440 be there that showcases the 250th in the 345 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:15,759 center. And then it has a little bit of 346 00:16:15,759 --> 00:16:18,880 a walkth through history of agg. So it 347 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:23,120 features um a where where they didn't 348 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:28,079 have any tools beyond the hand tools. Um 349 00:16:28,079 --> 00:16:33,199 some heirloom vegetables, some smiling 350 00:16:33,199 --> 00:16:35,600 livestock, and then it and then it 351 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:38,160 transitions into some other areas of 352 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:40,880 what the fair is currently with some 353 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:45,120 rides. Um, one of the the vision at the 354 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:48,000 top there is a new youth building that 355 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:49,920 will be coming within the next two 356 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:53,600 years. Um, very excited about that 357 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:56,320 exhibition hall and new offices for the 358 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:58,079 fairgrounds. So, that is part of our 359 00:16:58,079 --> 00:17:00,800 vision for the future that we're looking 360 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:02,880 for partners for that if anybody wants 361 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:05,600 to uh be a room donor, you just let me 362 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:07,760 know and we'll take care of you. And 363 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,240 then the last one is just the future of 364 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:12,880 agg with new technology that's already 365 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:14,880 being implemented with the drones and 366 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:18,880 the new um features on those different 367 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,039 pieces of equipment. So the 368 00:17:21,039 --> 00:17:22,799 collaboration comes where they're 369 00:17:22,799 --> 00:17:24,720 providing some of the people that are 370 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:28,160 going to be helping to put the paint on. 371 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:30,320 They're they're collaborating with me by 372 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:34,080 applying for grants for paint. And uh we 373 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,480 reached out to another partner, 374 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:40,160 Destination Hillyard, who's accepted our 375 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,480 grant application and is providing some 376 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,360 funding for the artist, Cecilia, the 377 00:17:45,360 --> 00:17:48,720 sketchy artist. Um she has done numerous 378 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:50,880 things around Hillyard and I know that 379 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:52,480 you've already been very pleased with 380 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:55,840 her work. So we are very excited about 381 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:57,919 this collaboration and believe that it 382 00:17:57,919 --> 00:18:00,559 will keep making Hillyard beautiful 383 00:18:00,559 --> 00:18:03,039 along with bringing a highlight to 384 00:18:03,039 --> 00:18:06,000 agriculture that we so desperately need. 385 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:10,070 Does anybody have any questions? 386 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:11,919 » Thank you. Um does council have any 387 00:18:11,919 --> 00:18:14,320 questions? 388 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:17,600 >> When is that expected to go up? Well, 389 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:21,200 based off of tonight's results, we will 390 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,200 be moving forward with creating a 391 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:26,240 timeline. The goal is to have the 392 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:30,320 centerpiece of the 250th up by the fair 393 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,160 and then the remaining pieces are going 394 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:34,880 to be a paint by number done at the fair 395 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:36,880 where people can come to the fair during 396 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:40,400 the week of July 20th through 26th. and 397 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:42,799 Cecilia will be there to help guide that 398 00:18:42,799 --> 00:18:45,440 paint by number and um probably put a 399 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:47,120 little finishing touches on there to 400 00:18:47,120 --> 00:18:49,039 make sure that it looks exactly like it 401 00:18:49,039 --> 00:18:51,600 needs to in order to go up on there. So 402 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:53,520 hopefully by the 1 of August you'll see 403 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:59,029 a full finished mural. 404 00:18:59,039 --> 00:19:00,960 There are no further questions that I 405 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,360 want to entertain a motion and a second 406 00:19:03,360 --> 00:19:08,000 from council. So move second. D would 407 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,320 you please call the role? 408 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:12,640 This is to approve the mural. Miss 409 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:13,760 Vermillion. 410 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:14,240 >> Yes. 411 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:15,520 >> Vice President Katon. 412 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:16,000 >> Yes. 413 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:16,960 >> Miss Russul. 414 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:17,360 >> Yes. 415 00:19:17,360 --> 00:19:18,400 >> Mr. Betts. 416 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:18,720 >> Yes. 417 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:19,919 >> Miss Parker Jones. 418 00:19:19,919 --> 00:19:20,240 >> Yes. 419 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:21,280 >> Mr. Teter. 420 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:21,760 >> Yes. 421 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:22,640 >> President Cole. 422 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:23,120 >> Yes. 423 00:19:23,120 --> 00:19:24,320 >> Pass 70. 424 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:26,720 >> All right. Well, congratulations. Um, 425 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:28,240 and thank you for joining us and thank 426 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:29,840 you for doing this project. We're really 427 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:30,400 excited. 428 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:32,000 >> Absolutely. 429 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:35,360 >> Thank you. Okay. And I'm very excited to 430 00:19:35,360 --> 00:19:38,080 return to one of our agenda items. Um, 431 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:41,520 so our next item of business will be to 432 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:43,760 administer the oath of office to our new 433 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:45,919 city manager, Joshua Roush. Josh, if you 434 00:19:45,919 --> 00:19:57,750 and your family would like to join me. 435 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:00,640 » No, I take Br. Bring them on. Bring them 436 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:08,549 on. Everybody come on up. 437 00:20:08,559 --> 00:21:55,669 Where are you? 438 00:21:55,679 --> 00:21:58,080 Hello. Council, would you join us for a 439 00:21:58,080 --> 00:23:45,350 group photo? 440 00:23:45,360 --> 00:23:47,600 Okay. 441 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:51,120 Are there any changes to the agenda? 442 00:23:51,120 --> 00:23:54,320 Hearing none, we will move on to the 443 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,039 consent agenda. There is one item on the 444 00:23:57,039 --> 00:24:01,679 consent agenda this evening. 26-R41, 445 00:24:01,679 --> 00:24:04,000 approving appointments to the city's age 446 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,640 in place advisory committee. Would 447 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,400 anyone like to move this item to the 448 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,679 regular agenda for discussion? 449 00:24:11,679 --> 00:24:13,840 I would entertain a motion and a second 450 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,000 to approve the consent agenda by voice 451 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,679 vote. 452 00:24:17,679 --> 00:24:19,200 >> Moved. 453 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:20,720 >> Second. 454 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,400 Okay. Yes. Sorry. 455 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,000 >> All in favor say I. 456 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:25,039 >> I. 457 00:24:25,039 --> 00:24:27,279 >> Oppos. Same sign. 458 00:24:27,279 --> 00:24:29,120 >> Approved. 459 00:24:29,120 --> 00:24:31,360 >> For public comments, we do have two 460 00:24:31,360 --> 00:24:33,520 individuals signed up to speak during 461 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,720 our public portion of the meeting. And I 462 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,120 will call you each up to the podium and 463 00:24:39,120 --> 00:24:41,440 then you'll state your name and address 464 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,520 um into the record and you will have 465 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:47,760 three minutes. Um, and I am struggling 466 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,400 to read. So, if I say your name 467 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,640 incorrectly, please correct me um, into 468 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:54,960 the microphone. I think our first person 469 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:58,960 might be Clay Daniel. 470 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:00,720 I'm sorry. Please come correct me, too. 471 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,120 What's the name? Oh, it is Clay Daniel. 472 00:25:03,120 --> 00:25:05,600 Oh, wonder. Clay, you're you're up. It's 473 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,279 time to speak for public. Did you sign 474 00:25:07,279 --> 00:25:10,559 up to Did you mean to sign up to speak? 475 00:25:10,559 --> 00:25:19,029 >> Is it on an item on the agenda? 476 00:25:19,039 --> 00:25:23,279 So, so if there is if there's a desire 477 00:25:23,279 --> 00:25:25,840 for somebody to speak about that issue, 478 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,320 now would be the time for them to speak. 479 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,440 Um, and then later when the conditional 480 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,600 uses are heard, staff will make a 481 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:35,919 presentation. If council has questions 482 00:25:35,919 --> 00:25:37,760 about any of the conditional uses and 483 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,960 there are representatives here um to 484 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:42,559 answer those questions, then they'd be 485 00:25:42,559 --> 00:25:45,279 able to answer. We don't have applicant 486 00:25:45,279 --> 00:25:46,960 presentations during the conditional 487 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:48,080 use. 488 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,559 >> But we could not have uh public comment 489 00:25:50,559 --> 00:25:52,640 during the resolution po portion. They 490 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,640 would need to make the comment now. 491 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,640 >> Right. Because just as for any other 492 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,480 resolution, the time to comment on it is 493 00:25:58,480 --> 00:25:59,679 during the general public comment 494 00:25:59,679 --> 00:26:00,400 period. 495 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,640 >> Okay. Uh Mr. Daniel, would you like to 496 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:04,480 speak? 497 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:08,000 >> Okay. Um Edwin Daniel, would you like to 498 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:08,880 speak? 499 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:10,640 >> Okay. Welcome. And if you don't mind 500 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,960 turning on the microphone name and 501 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,200 address into the mic and you have three 502 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:15,679 minutes. 503 00:26:15,679 --> 00:26:18,480 >> My name's Edwin Daniel, 5426 Madison 504 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,760 Street in Old Hillyard. Um, my wife 505 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:23,200 Kelly and I have lived in our house, and 506 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:24,559 I'm going to paraphrase because this 507 00:26:24,559 --> 00:26:26,720 looks kind of long. U, my wife, Kelly, 508 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,000 and I have lived in our home in Old 509 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,240 Hillyard since 1984. 510 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,240 Uh, we raised three of our children 511 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:36,080 there who are now now adults. Um, Kelly, 512 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,640 you might know as the sunflower lady, 513 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,440 also serves as served as the first chair 514 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,320 of the U. Public arts commission and is 515 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,919 still on that on that board. Um, 516 00:26:47,919 --> 00:26:49,600 she was instrumental in the creation of 517 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,760 the art and public places um program. 518 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:57,440 Um, I served as um 519 00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,200 former chairman of the old Hillyard 520 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,799 Commission and also on the um or on the 521 00:27:02,799 --> 00:27:06,559 um um 522 00:27:06,559 --> 00:27:09,760 graphics commission. Um I served on the 523 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,799 um board of directors of the um of 524 00:27:12,799 --> 00:27:15,120 Hillyard Civic Association and was 525 00:27:15,120 --> 00:27:19,039 president of the um Old Hillyard Fest. 526 00:27:19,039 --> 00:27:22,080 Um, also both Kelly and I served on the 527 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,679 Hillyard Arts Council and I was 528 00:27:25,679 --> 00:27:28,480 instrumental in the design and building 529 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,679 of the um the this the Cultural Arts 530 00:27:31,679 --> 00:27:34,960 Center on Center Street and also served 531 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,159 as their um technical director and 532 00:27:38,159 --> 00:27:42,480 building manager for several years. Um, 533 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,240 we've witnessed the explosive growth of 534 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,640 the city of Hillyard and the exciting 535 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,960 energy that our downtown venues, 536 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:50,640 businesses, and events have brought to 537 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,039 our neighborhood. Uh, members of my 538 00:27:53,039 --> 00:27:55,200 family, and this is specifically talking 539 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,520 about the um, conditional use for the 540 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,159 McCoy Center. members of my family, 541 00:28:00,159 --> 00:28:03,120 specifically my son Clay, um and for 542 00:28:03,120 --> 00:28:04,720 several years, daughter Aaron have been 543 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,320 involved in the daily operation of the 544 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,720 McCoy Center with Clay as general 545 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,679 manager and Aaron most recently as event 546 00:28:11,679 --> 00:28:15,200 planner, host and sales lead. Um plans 547 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:16,880 were being made to upgrade parts of the 548 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:20,559 facility and um plans were also being 549 00:28:20,559 --> 00:28:22,960 made to attract more events to that that 550 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,679 location in Old Hillyard. Um, I'm not 551 00:28:25,679 --> 00:28:27,760 speaking at night tonight to save the 552 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,240 McCoy Center. I think that ship has 553 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,760 sailed. Um, I believe though and I'm 554 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,559 concerned that in the decision that this 555 00:28:36,559 --> 00:28:39,520 council makes tonight, um, I asked to 556 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,760 consider the new personality of downtown 557 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:45,919 Hillyard and as a destination location 558 00:28:45,919 --> 00:28:47,840 that there might be a better use for 559 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:51,039 this location um, than a place of 560 00:28:51,039 --> 00:28:53,840 worship. And that's all I have to say. 561 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:55,679 Thank you. 562 00:28:55,679 --> 00:28:56,880 >> Turn this back on. 563 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,360 >> You're good. Thank you, sir. And then 564 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,600 I'd like to also invite um the weeb 565 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,720 blows down from pack 841. Um whoever had 566 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:10,149 wanted to speak. 567 00:29:10,159 --> 00:29:13,760 Um we are the um we blow scouts. We go 568 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,480 to Hillyard Crossing Elementary School. 569 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:20,710 We're pack 841. 570 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,919 And that's it. 571 00:29:23,919 --> 00:29:25,760 Um, 572 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:29,120 we are happy to be here and we want to 573 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,159 give a thanks to Miss Emily for letting 574 00:29:32,159 --> 00:29:34,880 us be here to lead you guys in the 575 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,120 pledge and for her to come to our pack 576 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,600 meeting for us to learn about the 577 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:45,190 government and how laws become laws. 578 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,600 We 579 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:51,279 appreciate marching in the parades and 580 00:29:51,279 --> 00:29:54,240 uh making the city of Hillyard or town 581 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,520 or district or whatever I I I don't know 582 00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,360 what it's called 583 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,240 more beautiful. 584 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,760 Uh thanks uh for letting us come to uh 585 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,480 the meeting. Uh 586 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,840 and that's it. 587 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:20,310 >> All right. Thank you very much. 588 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,279 » Okay. Is there anyone else who would 589 00:30:23,279 --> 00:30:25,120 like to speak that did not have a chance 590 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,919 to sign up? 591 00:30:27,919 --> 00:30:30,559 Okay. All right. We will now move into 592 00:30:30,559 --> 00:30:38,070 the business of council. 593 00:30:38,080 --> 00:31:04,630 for coming. 594 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,120 » Okay, we are now going to move into 595 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:08,960 ordinances. Second reading public 596 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,200 hearing. D. Would you please read 597 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:15,600 ordinance 26-11 by title only 598 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,360 >> amending the appropriation of funds for 599 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,360 the expenses of the city and authorizing 600 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,200 an expenditure? 601 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,039 >> This is the second reading public 602 00:31:23,039 --> 00:31:26,000 hearing. Has anyone signed up to speak? 603 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:27,440 >> No, ma'am. I have no one signed up. 604 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,279 >> Is there anyone in attendance who would 605 00:31:29,279 --> 00:31:30,559 like to speak during this public 606 00:31:30,559 --> 00:31:33,279 hearing? 607 00:31:33,279 --> 00:31:35,200 >> Does council have any further questions 608 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:39,190 or comments? 609 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,279 I would entertain a motion and a second 610 00:31:41,279 --> 00:31:43,840 to approve. So move. 611 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:45,200 >> Second. 612 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,600 >> D. Would you please call the role? 613 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:48,960 >> Vice President Katon? 614 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:49,360 >> Yes. 615 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:50,559 >> Miss Vermillion? 616 00:31:50,559 --> 00:31:51,120 >> Yes. 617 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:52,159 >> President Cole? 618 00:31:52,159 --> 00:31:52,559 >> Yes. 619 00:31:52,559 --> 00:31:53,840 >> Miss Parker Jones? 620 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:54,320 >> Yes. 621 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:55,279 >> Mr. Teter? 622 00:31:55,279 --> 00:31:55,600 >> Yes. 623 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:56,559 >> Miss Russul? 624 00:31:56,559 --> 00:31:56,960 >> Yes. 625 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,080 >> Mr. Betts? 626 00:31:58,080 --> 00:31:58,720 >> Yes. 627 00:31:58,720 --> 00:31:59,919 >> Pass 70. 628 00:31:59,919 --> 00:32:03,039 >> Ordinance 26-11 has passed and will be 629 00:32:03,039 --> 00:32:04,960 effective at the earliest date allowable 630 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,919 by law. We have no first readings for 631 00:32:07,919 --> 00:32:10,080 ordinances this evening. We'll now move 632 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:14,230 into resolutions. 633 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:18,880 D. Would you please read resolution 26-R 634 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:22,240 42 by title only authorizing the city 635 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:23,840 manager to enter into a purchase 636 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,240 agreement with MTech company for a 637 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:27,919 street sweeper through the Sourcewell 638 00:32:27,919 --> 00:32:30,000 Cooperative Purchasing Program. 639 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:31,919 Authorizing the director of finance to 640 00:32:31,919 --> 00:32:34,080 enter into a financing agreement with 641 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,480 Republic First National for the payment 642 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,640 of the street sweeper and authorizing an 643 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,240 expenditure. 644 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:41,679 Is there a staff report? 645 00:32:41,679 --> 00:32:43,600 >> There is. Good evening and thank you 646 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,080 members of council. The legislation in 647 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,240 front of you is for a resolution to 648 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,240 purchase a new street sweeper through 649 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,039 MTech company. Uh the public service 650 00:32:53,039 --> 00:32:55,919 department, we use our street sweeper to 651 00:32:55,919 --> 00:32:57,840 kind of carry out our street sweeping 652 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,159 program. Uh this program cleans our 653 00:33:00,159 --> 00:33:02,960 streets by removing de debris and litter 654 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,279 from the streets and also improves our 655 00:33:05,279 --> 00:33:07,519 water quality by removing pollutants 656 00:33:07,519 --> 00:33:10,000 before they get to our storm water. Uh 657 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:11,760 just a little history of our current 658 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:13,679 street sweeper. So you can see on the 659 00:33:13,679 --> 00:33:15,600 screen here, the top left is an image of 660 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,399 the current street sweeper. Um we 661 00:33:18,399 --> 00:33:21,600 purchased that back in 2022 on a 662 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,320 five-year payment plan. Um, and we've 663 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,480 had continued kind of reliability and 664 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,240 performance issues over the last couple 665 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,960 years. So, we started reaching out to a 666 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,679 dealer to replace that street sweeper. 667 00:33:33,679 --> 00:33:36,480 Um, and we have an agreement to trade in 668 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,519 the current street sweeper for $75,000, 669 00:33:39,519 --> 00:33:42,399 which is roughly 30% of the purchase 670 00:33:42,399 --> 00:33:44,640 price. So, it's a good trade in value. 671 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,279 Um, and then the bottom right picture is 672 00:33:47,279 --> 00:33:49,120 a picture of the new street sweeper that 673 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,799 we intend to purchase. Um the cost of 674 00:33:52,799 --> 00:33:58,149 that new street sweeper is $242,189 675 00:33:58,159 --> 00:34:00,559 and um will like I said before will be 676 00:34:00,559 --> 00:34:03,360 provided by MTech company. The purchase 677 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,440 agreement is for 5 years with an annual 678 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:10,389 payment of $55,735.84 679 00:34:10,399 --> 00:34:12,960 and the first lease payment or uh 680 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,040 purchase payment isn't due until next 681 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,399 year. So, the deal that we worked out, 682 00:34:18,399 --> 00:34:20,720 they're going to pay us $75,000 for that 683 00:34:20,720 --> 00:34:22,639 tradein this year. And then our first 684 00:34:22,639 --> 00:34:25,919 payment isn't due until March of 2027. 685 00:34:25,919 --> 00:34:27,520 Um, so with that said, I'm happy to 686 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,520 answer any questions you may have, but 687 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:34,869 that concludes our staff report. 688 00:34:34,879 --> 00:34:36,320 » Thank you. Does council have any 689 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,399 questions or comments? 690 00:34:38,399 --> 00:34:41,119 >> Yes. 691 00:34:41,119 --> 00:34:44,879 Are there any differences in their um 692 00:34:44,879 --> 00:34:47,359 features or how they perform? 693 00:34:47,359 --> 00:34:50,320 >> There is. So, the current street sweeper 694 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,040 we have is basically a retrofitted like 695 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,520 truck that we use for plows and all of 696 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,480 that. This new street sweeper is, and I 697 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,000 don't know all the technical details, 698 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,400 but it's a mechanical sweeper where it's 699 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,720 specifically built just to sweep 700 00:35:04,720 --> 00:35:07,839 streets. So, it's a completely different 701 00:35:07,839 --> 00:35:10,560 chassis, different system. It works more 702 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,119 efficiently. Um, and the performance, 703 00:35:13,119 --> 00:35:18,710 we've been told, is is a lot better. 704 00:35:18,720 --> 00:35:20,400 » Um, are any other cities around here 705 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:21,839 that are using it that you can kind of 706 00:35:21,839 --> 00:35:23,599 see do they does it get into corners 707 00:35:23,599 --> 00:35:26,400 better? Does it do have seen it? We 708 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:27,760 haven't I don't think we've reached out 709 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,400 to other cities, but it's a three-wheel 710 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:34,000 vehicle and just looking at the turning 711 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,160 radius uh through their videos, it 712 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:37,920 definitely gets in and out of areas a 713 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,079 lot more efficient and better than than 714 00:35:40,079 --> 00:35:41,440 the uh one 715 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,359 >> and Culax. 716 00:35:43,359 --> 00:35:48,870 >> Yeah, and Culax. Yep. 717 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,720 » Seeing no further Oh, I'm sorry. 718 00:35:50,720 --> 00:35:51,920 >> I was just going to say thank you. 719 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:52,800 >> Yeah. 720 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,040 >> Okay. I would entertain a motion and a 721 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:56,880 second to approve. 722 00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:57,680 >> So moved. 723 00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,040 >> Second. 724 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:02,320 >> D, would you please call the role? 725 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:03,280 >> Miss Vermillion? 726 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:03,839 >> Yes. 727 00:36:03,839 --> 00:36:05,040 >> Miss Parker Jones? 728 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:05,440 >> Yes. 729 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:06,240 >> Mr. Betts? 730 00:36:06,240 --> 00:36:06,640 >> Yes. 731 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:07,520 >> President Cole? 732 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:07,920 >> Yes. 733 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:08,800 >> Mr. Teter? 734 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:09,359 >> Yes. 735 00:36:09,359 --> 00:36:10,480 >> Vice President Katone? 736 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:10,800 >> Yes. 737 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:11,680 >> Miss Rasul? 738 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:12,000 >> Yes. 739 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:13,119 >> Pass 70. 740 00:36:13,119 --> 00:36:15,920 >> Resolution 26-R42 741 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:17,680 has passed and is in effect at the 742 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:21,280 earliest date allowable by law. D. Would 743 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:25,200 you please read resolution 26-R43 744 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,280 by title only? 745 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,119 >> Authorizing the city manager to enter 746 00:36:29,119 --> 00:36:31,280 into a community reinvestment area tax 747 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,359 abatement agreement with Riggins Court 748 00:36:33,359 --> 00:36:35,119 Holdings LLC. 749 00:36:35,119 --> 00:36:38,160 >> Sir, staff report. 750 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,320 >> Good evening, members of council. Um, I 751 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,640 have with me Alex Boomershine. She is 752 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:44,640 also on the economic development team. 753 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,359 Um, she is leading this project and I 754 00:36:47,359 --> 00:36:48,720 promised her I wasn't going to make her 755 00:36:48,720 --> 00:36:51,359 talk. um but made her come up anyway. 756 00:36:51,359 --> 00:36:53,440 But anyway, Alex is really I know a lot 757 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,200 of you have seen everything that goes on 758 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,520 with City Lab. Um Alex really runs that 759 00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,440 day-to-day. She also manages all of our 760 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,119 existing business relationships outside 761 00:37:01,119 --> 00:37:03,119 of the downtown area and she's been 762 00:37:03,119 --> 00:37:04,400 really taking over a lot of the 763 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,720 compliance things with CRA and and tax 764 00:37:06,720 --> 00:37:09,200 incentives. So, um great asset to the 765 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,119 team and we're excited to present this 766 00:37:11,119 --> 00:37:14,160 new project. Um this site is located at 767 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:17,760 the end of Riggins Court. Um, this uh 768 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:21,599 project is for a 12-year 75% CRA that 769 00:37:21,599 --> 00:37:23,280 would allow for the construction of a 770 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,000 72,000 square foot spec industrial 771 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,320 building. Um, you may recall from a 772 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,000 couple years ago, we had a series of 773 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,079 five projects basically that were under 774 00:37:32,079 --> 00:37:34,240 construction at once and it's been a 775 00:37:34,240 --> 00:37:35,599 couple years since we've had anything 776 00:37:35,599 --> 00:37:36,800 moving forward. There's been a lot of 777 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:38,240 macroeconomic things that have been 778 00:37:38,240 --> 00:37:40,079 under consideration. But what we 779 00:37:40,079 --> 00:37:42,079 approved today basically is where our 780 00:37:42,079 --> 00:37:44,320 future companies of in two years are 781 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,400 going to be. So those properties that we 782 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,920 approved in 2024 are now just about all 783 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:51,599 full. There's just a couple spots left 784 00:37:51,599 --> 00:37:52,960 out of those. So it's important that we 785 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:54,880 get this product online. So this 786 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,200 abatement would authorize a CRA for the 787 00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,200 Rianc Court Flex Industrial Project, 788 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,079 which would be an almost $12 million 789 00:38:02,079 --> 00:38:04,240 investment and we expect at least five 790 00:38:04,240 --> 00:38:05,680 and a quarter million dollars in annual 791 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,400 payroll from it. 792 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:09,839 >> Thank you. Does council have any 793 00:38:09,839 --> 00:38:14,630 questions or comments? 794 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:18,960 Thank you. Um so the ones that were 795 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:22,240 approved previously 796 00:38:22,240 --> 00:38:25,760 at that time um we were told a certain 797 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,800 number that we expected. Can you tell us 798 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:30,960 how those actual numbers compare? 799 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,839 >> Sure. So they have a time period to to 800 00:38:33,839 --> 00:38:36,560 ramp up their leases. So it we have 801 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,240 their first reporting year will be this 802 00:38:38,240 --> 00:38:41,280 year. We can say as of 1231 of this 803 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,760 year, the Edwards Farm project, for 804 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,000 example, has already generated over 200 805 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:47,839 new jobs and that was as of December of 806 00:38:47,839 --> 00:38:50,079 25. Those leases are all doing their 807 00:38:50,079 --> 00:38:52,480 build out now. So, it looks like they're 808 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,240 all going to exceed their job creation 809 00:38:54,240 --> 00:38:55,920 requirement, but we're not going to know 810 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:59,520 until the buildouts occur, but from the companies that have been locating 811 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,839 and signing leases, we expect it'll be 812 00:39:01,839 --> 00:39:04,000 significantly greater than this. 813 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,720 >> How about dollar-wise? that payroll and 814 00:39:06,720 --> 00:39:08,240 everything is going to far exceed 815 00:39:08,240 --> 00:39:10,000 expectations of what was in their 816 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,560 agreement to date. 817 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:16,960 >> Okay. Um then my next comment question 818 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,839 is um 819 00:39:19,839 --> 00:39:23,839 I feel like cities are very quick to 820 00:39:23,839 --> 00:39:28,000 automatically give tax abatements. Um we 821 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:32,160 have an attorney's name who took out the 822 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:36,240 LLC. I don't really know who ultimately 823 00:39:36,240 --> 00:39:38,560 is going to own this or who is the 824 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,960 investor. Who are the investors in in 825 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:42,320 this? For all I know, it could be a 826 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:43,839 billionaire that doesn't need this tax 827 00:39:43,839 --> 00:39:44,880 abatement. 828 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,680 >> So, what regardless of the ownership, a 829 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:49,359 project has to make sense. And to get 830 00:39:49,359 --> 00:39:50,720 the tenant mix that they want, they have 831 00:39:50,720 --> 00:39:52,000 to be able to charge a certain amount in 832 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:53,680 lease. If you don't provide an 833 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:54,880 abatement, you're not going to be able 834 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:56,160 to charge the lease rate in order to get 835 00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:57,520 the project off the ground. So, there's 836 00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:59,760 no project regardless of the ownership. 837 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:01,920 That being said, this project is being 838 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,400 developed by Excel, which is a local um 839 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,440 industrial company. Um, as far as who's 840 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,359 going to own it long term, I don't know. 841 00:40:09,359 --> 00:40:10,800 They have every right to potentially 842 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:12,720 sell it to an investor, provided that it 843 00:40:12,720 --> 00:40:15,280 makes sense. Um, but at the end of the 844 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,359 day, the developer is the one taking all 845 00:40:17,359 --> 00:40:20,079 of the risk on the project. If this 846 00:40:20,079 --> 00:40:21,920 project doesn't move forward or if they 847 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:23,119 run into a hiccup from some 848 00:40:23,119 --> 00:40:25,760 macroeconomic issue, it's all the money 849 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:27,200 on them. If they don't move forward, 850 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:28,560 there's no abatement. they don't hit the 851 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,000 job parameter, the incentive gets 852 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,240 terminated. So all of the risk is on the 853 00:40:32,240 --> 00:40:34,400 developer. 854 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,359 >> And I didn't catch what you said at the 855 00:40:37,359 --> 00:40:40,240 beginning of your answer about why the 856 00:40:40,240 --> 00:40:42,640 abatement was so crucial. 857 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:44,800 >> And if you don't have an abatement, you 858 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:46,960 can't charge the amount of rent needed 859 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:48,640 today to get one of these buildings off 860 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:50,320 the ground. These buildings will not be 861 00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:55,030 constructed without an abatement. 862 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,680 So basically the taxpayer has to help 863 00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:59,760 the business along. 864 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:01,839 >> I think the we're partnering with the 865 00:41:01,839 --> 00:41:03,920 business in order to achieve a project 866 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,800 of what we want to grow jobs and 867 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:08,720 investment here in our community. If 868 00:41:08,720 --> 00:41:10,240 it's a tool we don't want to use then 869 00:41:10,240 --> 00:41:11,280 the projects aren't going to move 870 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:12,400 forward and we're not going to grow our 871 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,720 income tax base. So is the taxpayer 872 00:41:14,720 --> 00:41:17,280 fronting this? I'd argue that this is 873 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,520 all new investment that's been sitting 874 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,079 vacant since you know the roads have 875 00:41:22,079 --> 00:41:24,240 been complete. So otherwise there's zero 876 00:41:24,240 --> 00:41:27,119 new tax dollars generated. So say this 877 00:41:27,119 --> 00:41:29,040 is going to be a new pack taxpayer in 878 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,280 our community. 879 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:35,430 >> Yeah, I understand. Thank you. 880 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,680 » So this property is right along 270, 881 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:39,839 correct? And from what I understand, 882 00:41:39,839 --> 00:41:42,880 it's going to look very similar to other 883 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,200 developed um property that's like right 884 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:46,880 on the other side of 270. So it's going 885 00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:48,960 to look very cohesive to our community 886 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,839 and such. I also noticed in looking at 887 00:41:51,839 --> 00:41:54,000 the site plan that this is a very 888 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,880 challenging site to develop and so were 889 00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:58,720 there any other considerations looked at 890 00:41:58,720 --> 00:42:00,640 for this site or was this you know the 891 00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,720 real best case usage of it? 892 00:42:02,720 --> 00:42:05,040 >> So this site sat vacant at one point it 893 00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:06,960 was going to be a potential parking lot 894 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,359 for the BMW building but until we 895 00:42:09,359 --> 00:42:12,160 changed the I270 zoning there was 896 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:13,920 nothing that could pencil out or be 897 00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,160 achieved here. So the the reasonzoning 898 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:17,599 in addition with the incentive is really 899 00:42:17,599 --> 00:42:19,599 what made this site viable because you 900 00:42:19,599 --> 00:42:21,119 mentioned it's it's a challenging site 901 00:42:21,119 --> 00:42:22,480 not just from the fact that it's a 902 00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,319 triangle but then also fitting storm 903 00:42:24,319 --> 00:42:25,839 water management on something like this 904 00:42:25,839 --> 00:42:27,920 is also a big challenge. So there wasn't 905 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,079 a whole lot that could go here. So we're 906 00:42:30,079 --> 00:42:32,000 excited that this is kind of achieving 907 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:35,359 the I270 reszoning goals and also 908 00:42:35,359 --> 00:42:36,160 getting something that's going to 909 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,079 generate revenue over time. 910 00:42:38,079 --> 00:42:45,510 >> Thank you. 911 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,480 I was just going to ask um how many jobs 912 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:50,240 is this going to generate? 913 00:42:50,240 --> 00:42:52,800 >> Uh the minimum commitment is 75. 914 00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:54,560 Typically what we've seen on a spec 915 00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:56,880 project is roughly one job per thousand 916 00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,280 feet. We're seeing much better results, 917 00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,040 but at least from the agreement 918 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,520 requirement, um 75 jobs for 919 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,119 >> 75 jobs. And what's the square footage 920 00:43:05,119 --> 00:43:05,440 of? 921 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,119 >> 72,000 square feet. 922 00:43:07,119 --> 00:43:12,790 Okay. Thank you. 923 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,520 Okay. All right. Seeing no further 924 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:17,359 questions or comments, I would entertain 925 00:43:17,359 --> 00:43:19,920 a motion and a second to approve. So 926 00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:20,800 move. 927 00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:22,319 >> Second. 928 00:43:22,319 --> 00:43:23,839 >> Alex. 929 00:43:23,839 --> 00:43:28,870 >> D, would you please call the role? 930 00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:30,079 » Miss Parker Jones, 931 00:43:30,079 --> 00:43:30,480 >> yes. 932 00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:31,599 >> Mr. Teter, 933 00:43:31,599 --> 00:43:32,079 >> yes. 934 00:43:32,079 --> 00:43:33,200 >> President Cole, 935 00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:33,760 >> yes. 936 00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:35,200 >> Mr. Betts, 937 00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:36,000 >> yes. 938 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,319 >> Miss Vermillion, 939 00:43:38,319 --> 00:43:41,829 >> no. 940 00:43:41,839 --> 00:43:42,720 Miss Russul, 941 00:43:42,720 --> 00:43:45,200 >> no. 942 00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:46,560 >> Vice President Katon, 943 00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:48,000 >> yes. 944 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,240 >> Pass 52. 945 00:43:50,240 --> 00:43:53,040 >> Resolution 26-R43 946 00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:54,640 has passed and is in effect at the 947 00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:58,000 earliest date allowable by law. D, would 948 00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:02,079 you please read resolution 26-R44 949 00:44:02,079 --> 00:44:05,040 by title only? 950 00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,040 Authorizing the conditional use for a 951 00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,200 new 70,644 952 00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:12,000 square foot square foot Brown Elementary 953 00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:15,040 School at 2900 Walker Road within the DE 954 00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,520 Big Derby Employment District. Staff 955 00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:18,400 report, please. 956 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:19,839 >> Yes, thank you. Good evening, members of 957 00:44:19,839 --> 00:44:22,560 council. May D is going to pull up the 958 00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,040 presentation for you. Um, this site is 959 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,680 located on the east side of Walker Road 960 00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,960 and see if this is turned on. Sorry 961 00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:32,880 about that. 962 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,440 You can see the site location there. Um 963 00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,520 it is directly adjacent to the existing 964 00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,920 Hillyard Memorial Middle School just to 965 00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,000 the north of that site. A couple of 966 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,240 images of the existing site as it is 967 00:44:44,240 --> 00:44:47,760 today. Uh the proposed plan includes a 968 00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,800 new 70,644T 969 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,359 elementary school with 161 parking 970 00:44:53,359 --> 00:44:55,920 spaces. Access to the site will be 971 00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:57,680 available um from the extension of 972 00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:59,839 Mirror Parkway and also from Hillyard 973 00:44:59,839 --> 00:45:02,640 Memorial Middle School to the south. The 974 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:06,079 applicant is requesting um a conditional 975 00:45:06,079 --> 00:45:08,319 use for the new elementary school within 976 00:45:08,319 --> 00:45:10,640 the Big Derby Employment District. The 977 00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,280 site does meet parking requirements and 978 00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,040 it is exempt from the open space 979 00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,839 requirements as a public entity. 980 00:45:17,839 --> 00:45:20,400 Any questions? Oh, I'm I apologize. I 981 00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,400 forgot to say the record of actions. Um 982 00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,640 the big derby accord panel did vote 80 983 00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:26,319 to provide a positive recommendation for 984 00:45:26,319 --> 00:45:28,800 the site plan with conditions. Uh 985 00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:30,640 additionally planning and zoning zoning 986 00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,640 commission voted 50 to provide a 987 00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:33,920 positive recommendation for the 988 00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,000 conditional use to be forwarded to 989 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:37,760 council. 990 00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:39,200 >> Thank you. Does council have any 991 00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:43,750 questions or comments? 992 00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:45,920 » Um is there anybody here from from the 993 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,400 schools to answer a question? 994 00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,520 >> I am not aware if there's room. Yes, 995 00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:51,920 there is. 996 00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:59,599 >> Oh, okay. Um I had a question about um I know um several years ago um we had 997 00:45:59,599 --> 00:46:01,359 some conversations with the schools 998 00:46:01,359 --> 00:46:04,079 about maybe applying for grants for 999 00:46:04,079 --> 00:46:06,079 maybe solar on the rooftops and things 1000 00:46:06,079 --> 00:46:08,560 like that. Has that advanced any further 1001 00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:13,510 with all that rooftop you guys have? 1002 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:14,800 » Evening council. My name is Mark 1003 00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:16,560 Dudgeen. I'm chief operating officer for 1004 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:19,200 Hillyard City Schools. So to your point, 1005 00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,040 um we're we're always looking for 1006 00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,680 opportunities to to leverage uh uh 1007 00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,400 budgets and and also reduce our energy 1008 00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:29,040 impact. Um while we have not move 1009 00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,440 forward uh with anything regarding 1010 00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:36,960 solar, we have been in conversation with entities around the area uh to to 1011 00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:40,800 look at and explore um tax credits uh 1012 00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,280 where possible. One more recent example 1013 00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:46,240 is is we just uh were awarded a grant by 1014 00:46:46,240 --> 00:46:48,079 the state department of development to 1015 00:46:48,079 --> 00:46:50,319 upgrade all LED lighting in Davidson 1016 00:46:50,319 --> 00:46:52,560 High School which will reduce our energy 1017 00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:54,240 consumption on that particular site by 1018 00:46:54,240 --> 00:46:57,040 approximately 55,000 a year. We haven't 1019 00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:59,280 done anything uh more recent with 1020 00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,440 regards to new construction or or new 1021 00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,839 development. Um simply because when we 1022 00:47:03,839 --> 00:47:06,640 talk about horizontal uh rooftops, we 1023 00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:08,960 invest a lot of money in in uh roof 1024 00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,280 warranties and uh when you start putting 1025 00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,839 solar arrays on on rooftops, obviously 1026 00:47:13,839 --> 00:47:16,800 it impacts our ability to to uh maintain 1027 00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:20,079 those uh rooftops long term. Um, but I 1028 00:47:20,079 --> 00:47:21,599 can tell you we are looking at 1029 00:47:21,599 --> 00:47:24,000 opportunities to do floating arrays on 1030 00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,319 some of our detention basins and uh, 1031 00:47:26,319 --> 00:47:28,480 similar to what uh, Delco Water up in 1032 00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:30,720 Delaware County did. Um, but also 1033 00:47:30,720 --> 00:47:32,720 looking at opportunities to go uh, 1034 00:47:32,720 --> 00:47:35,040 vertical with solar arrays, taking 1035 00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:38,800 advantage of of our west facing uh, um, 1036 00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,680 varsity stadiums and and um, uh, getting 1037 00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:43,599 creative with spaces like that. 1038 00:47:43,599 --> 00:47:45,839 >> That's awesome. I'm happy to hear that. 1039 00:47:45,839 --> 00:47:48,400 >> Um, is there one more question? Um, so 1040 00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,720 is your storm are your storm water 1041 00:47:50,720 --> 00:47:52,960 basins going to be similar to the 1042 00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:54,800 Bradley type basin? 1043 00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:56,319 >> Yeah, so the detentions on this 1044 00:47:56,319 --> 00:48:00,400 particular site um uh will be um basins 1045 00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,560 similar to what we have on both Memorial 1046 00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:05,280 and and Bradley. Um obviously on this 1047 00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,599 particular site we're we are uh having 1048 00:48:07,599 --> 00:48:09,680 to account for drainage from the north 1049 00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:12,480 um moving to the south. So, um while the 1050 00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:16,000 basins on this site uh won't satisfy um 1051 00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,640 all of that um drainage from the north, 1052 00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,680 we are taking in uh the basins on the 1053 00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:23,760 memorial and the Bradley site in into 1054 00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:25,040 consideration as well for those 1055 00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:26,480 calculations. 1056 00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:30,630 >> Okay. Thank you. 1057 00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:32,720 » Okay. I don't see any further questions 1058 00:48:32,720 --> 00:48:34,960 or comments from council. I would 1059 00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:36,880 entertain a motion and a second to 1060 00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:38,160 approve. 1061 00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:38,800 >> So move. 1062 00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:40,000 >> Second. 1063 00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,880 >> D. Would you please call the role? 1064 00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:44,160 >> Vice President Katon? 1065 00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:44,640 >> Yes. 1066 00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:45,440 >> Mr. Teter? 1067 00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:45,760 >> Yes. 1068 00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:46,720 >> Miss Russell? 1069 00:48:46,720 --> 00:48:47,520 >> Yes. 1070 00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:48,640 >> Miss Parker Jones? 1071 00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:49,119 >> Yes. 1072 00:48:49,119 --> 00:48:50,079 >> President Cole? 1073 00:48:50,079 --> 00:48:50,559 >> Yes. 1074 00:48:50,559 --> 00:48:51,440 >> Mr. Betts? 1075 00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:51,920 >> Yes. 1076 00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:53,359 >> Miss Vermillion? 1077 00:48:53,359 --> 00:48:54,000 >> Yes. 1078 00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,400 >> S70. 1079 00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:59,280 >> Resolution 26-R44 1080 00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:00,960 has passed and is in effect at the 1081 00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:04,160 earliest date allowable by law. 1082 00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,559 D. Would you please read resolution 1083 00:49:06,559 --> 00:49:08,720 26-R45 1084 00:49:08,720 --> 00:49:10,559 by title only? 1085 00:49:10,559 --> 00:49:12,319 >> Authorizing the conditional use for a 1086 00:49:12,319 --> 00:49:15,040 place of worship at 5462 Center Street 1087 00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:17,680 with the ORD Old Hillyard Residential 1088 00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:18,480 District. 1089 00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:20,079 >> Is there a staff report? 1090 00:49:20,079 --> 00:49:23,040 >> Yes. Thank you. The proposed site is 1091 00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,680 located at the terminus of Center Street 1092 00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:28,319 directly northeast of Merchant Park. The 1093 00:49:28,319 --> 00:49:30,480 site's currently operating as an event 1094 00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:32,960 center known as the McCoy Center. It 1095 00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:36,480 includes an existing 25,831qt 1096 00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:39,440 building as well as 174 existing parking 1097 00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:40,960 spaces. 1098 00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:42,720 Capitol Church is requesting a change in 1099 00:49:42,720 --> 00:49:44,400 use to a place of worship which is a 1100 00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:46,160 conditional use within the old Hillyard 1101 00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,400 residential district. The proposed place 1102 00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:50,240 of worship will not include a school or 1103 00:49:50,240 --> 00:49:54,480 daycare. Um you can see uh this is the 1104 00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:56,400 uh existing floor plans that were 1105 00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,880 developed um when the McCoy Center um 1106 00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,119 added the addition on. And then this is 1107 00:50:01,119 --> 00:50:03,920 the proposed floor plan for the um place 1108 00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,240 of worship which illustrates a main 1109 00:50:06,240 --> 00:50:07,680 auditorium that will be used for 1110 00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:10,480 services offices for staff and a lobby 1111 00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:12,240 children's area that will be used as an 1112 00:50:12,240 --> 00:50:14,480 accessory use to the main auditorium. 1113 00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:16,079 The total required parking for the 1114 00:50:16,079 --> 00:50:18,960 proposed use is 88 parking spaces. 1115 00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:20,480 Planning and Zoning Commission voted 1116 00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:22,240 50-0 to provide a positive 1117 00:50:22,240 --> 00:50:23,920 recommendation for the conditional use 1118 00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:25,920 to be forwarded to council. Any 1119 00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:26,559 questions? 1120 00:50:26,559 --> 00:50:28,079 >> Does council have any questions or 1121 00:50:28,079 --> 00:50:31,589 comments? 1122 00:50:31,599 --> 00:50:33,280 » You said there's how many required 1123 00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:34,559 parking spaces? 1124 00:50:34,559 --> 00:50:37,359 >> 88. Um, as they have the floor plan 1125 00:50:37,359 --> 00:50:38,079 proposed. 1126 00:50:38,079 --> 00:50:40,720 >> Okay. And what's the um anticipated 1127 00:50:40,720 --> 00:50:43,200 number of um people who could be in the 1128 00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:45,599 auditorium? They have um we have 1129 00:50:45,599 --> 00:50:47,440 calculated the parking based off of 1130 00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:49,680 their quote of 500 seats in the 1131 00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,319 auditorium and the planning and zoning 1132 00:50:52,319 --> 00:50:54,079 uh recommendation included a condition 1133 00:50:54,079 --> 00:50:55,760 that if that were to change they would 1134 00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:58,559 have to apply for you know review and 1135 00:50:58,559 --> 00:51:00,480 for that to be uh staff approved to make 1136 00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:02,160 sure it fits within the existing parking 1137 00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:04,000 on the site. 1138 00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:05,760 88 cars doesn't seem like that that 1139 00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:09,920 would really serve 500 people coming at 1140 00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:10,800 any given time 1141 00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:12,800 >> based on the zoning code parking 1142 00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:16,319 requirements. So, um the uh parking code 1143 00:51:16,319 --> 00:51:18,480 requires one space for every five seats 1144 00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:21,440 in the auditorium and then in within the 1145 00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,920 old Hillyard district um there is a 50% 1146 00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:25,359 reduction that's just automatically 1147 00:51:25,359 --> 00:51:27,040 provided in the zoning code for all 1148 00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:28,160 uses. 1149 00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:31,200 >> Okay. Um do we have a sense of when 1150 00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:32,880 services would be held? because I'm I'm 1151 00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,119 a little concerned about foot traffic um 1152 00:51:35,119 --> 00:51:37,359 with the trail being so close and with 1153 00:51:37,359 --> 00:51:39,599 the difference of timing. You know, the 1154 00:51:39,599 --> 00:51:41,280 McCoy Center currently is used as an 1155 00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:42,720 event space and that those things 1156 00:51:42,720 --> 00:51:44,240 typically happen in the evening when 1157 00:51:44,240 --> 00:51:47,040 there's less trail usage and so I'm just 1158 00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:51,200 wanting to have an understanding of when the building would likely be see a 1159 00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:52,960 lot of that traffic coming in and out. 1160 00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:54,960 Sure. My understanding that it'll be 1161 00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:56,800 primarily used on Sunday mornings. 1162 00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:58,400 However, I think that would be a good 1163 00:51:58,400 --> 00:51:59,839 question for the applicant if they're 1164 00:51:59,839 --> 00:52:02,400 available as well. Is the applicant here 1165 00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:03,520 this evening? 1166 00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:03,920 >> Yes. 1167 00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:06,000 >> Okay. Can you give us this? Do you want 1168 00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:10,079 to ask now? Okay. If you would come up. 1169 00:52:10,079 --> 00:52:12,720 >> Yes. Uh Charles Tilllet, 580 South High 1170 00:52:12,720 --> 00:52:16,559 Street, Sweet 120, Columbus, Ohio. Um 1171 00:52:16,559 --> 00:52:18,720 initially, um services would be 1172 00:52:18,720 --> 00:52:20,880 primarily on Sunday mornings. However, I 1173 00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:22,720 would say that the use of being so close 1174 00:52:22,720 --> 00:52:25,680 to the foot traffic or the rail trails 1175 00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:28,960 would um allow some members of Capitol 1176 00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:32,000 Church to attend the ceremonies or um 1177 00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,319 services by using those foot tra by 1178 00:52:34,319 --> 00:52:37,119 using those rail trails. 1179 00:52:37,119 --> 00:52:39,520 >> Sunday morning tends to be a pretty busy 1180 00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:42,400 time on the trail right there. So given 1181 00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:44,960 that there could be a lot of new traffic 1182 00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:46,800 coming in and out and and things like 1183 00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:50,400 that, I mean 500 people in 88 cars 1184 00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:52,559 doesn't seem like it fits very well. So 1185 00:52:52,559 --> 00:52:54,960 how do you anticipate making sure that 1186 00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:57,440 this is a safe area for our residents? 1187 00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:59,599 >> That is a fair point. I would just 1188 00:52:59,599 --> 00:53:02,079 clarify that there are currently 174 1189 00:53:02,079 --> 00:53:04,160 parking spaces in the parking lot as 1190 00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:05,760 opposed to just the 88 that are 1191 00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:08,319 required. Um, as far as keeping that 1192 00:53:08,319 --> 00:53:10,800 safe, we haven't for foot traffic around 1193 00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:12,160 the area. We haven't necessarily 1194 00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:14,640 contemplated that at this point. Um, I 1195 00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:16,880 would say that we are open to 1196 00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:18,880 implementing any strategies or tactics 1197 00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,920 that you guys would recommend. 1198 00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:24,559 >> Could there be a consideration of of 1199 00:53:24,559 --> 00:53:28,880 maintaining a lower count than 500? 1200 00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:33,359 Um, we wouldn't want to impede on the 1201 00:53:33,359 --> 00:53:35,839 ability to have a service for all the 1202 00:53:35,839 --> 00:53:39,520 members of the Capitol Church. 1203 00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:41,599 >> So, currently there there are about 500 1204 00:53:41,599 --> 00:53:43,280 that would attend then. 1205 00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:45,440 >> Yes, that's what's estimated at this 1206 00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:50,309 point. 1207 00:53:50,319 --> 00:53:53,359 So, you currently have 500, but I'm I'm 1208 00:53:53,359 --> 00:53:56,160 assuming you're a growing organization 1209 00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:58,319 and you could have more than 500. 1210 00:53:58,319 --> 00:53:59,359 Correct. 1211 00:53:59,359 --> 00:54:02,480 >> Um, that is correct. Yes. 1212 00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:04,960 >> At at which point, 1213 00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,359 what happens with the parking and and 1214 00:54:07,359 --> 00:54:08,720 the traffic? 1215 00:54:08,720 --> 00:54:11,119 >> Well, the space could fit up to 800 1216 00:54:11,119 --> 00:54:14,480 seats maximum. Um, at that point, we'd 1217 00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:16,640 still be under the in the requirements 1218 00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:18,079 for the code. I haven't done the 1219 00:54:18,079 --> 00:54:19,920 calculations for how many spaces would 1220 00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:23,119 be needed. Um, but at that point, we 1221 00:54:23,119 --> 00:54:24,800 would have to figure out strategies as 1222 00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:27,839 far as facilitating all the parking um 1223 00:54:27,839 --> 00:54:29,680 and getting everybody there in an 1224 00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:31,440 accommodating fashion and safe for all 1225 00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:33,920 the pedestrians who are using the rail 1226 00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:34,880 trail. 1227 00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:37,520 >> President Cole, if I might. So, one of 1228 00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:39,839 the um conditions on the staff 1229 00:54:39,839 --> 00:54:41,440 recommendation of approval that also 1230 00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:42,559 came through the planning and zoning 1231 00:54:42,559 --> 00:54:44,720 commission is that any changes to that 1232 00:54:44,720 --> 00:54:46,559 interior space that require additional 1233 00:54:46,559 --> 00:54:49,119 parking spaces would require the 1234 00:54:49,119 --> 00:54:51,280 administrative approval um up to the 1235 00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:52,960 number of parking spaces provided on the 1236 00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,280 site. So, if they were to expand their 1237 00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:57,359 seating from the 500 that's contemplated 1238 00:54:57,359 --> 00:55:02,240 here to 501 to 800, that would have to 1239 00:55:02,240 --> 00:55:05,200 come back through for staff approval. 1240 00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:07,200 Um, in terms of interaction of traffic 1241 00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:10,720 with the pedestrian experience, um, you 1242 00:55:10,720 --> 00:55:12,480 know, council has the ability to add 1243 00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:15,119 conditions as well to a conditional use. 1244 00:55:15,119 --> 00:55:18,160 So, if council were so inclined to add a 1245 00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:21,920 condition of creating a, um, plan and 1246 00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:26,800 consultation with staff to minimize um, 1247 00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:28,640 incoming and outcoming traffic and 1248 00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:30,480 pedestrian 1249 00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:32,480 interaction. 1250 00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:34,240 Um, and if that's something that the 1251 00:55:34,240 --> 00:55:35,920 applicant were agreeable to, that would 1252 00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:38,960 be something that council could require. 1253 00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:43,040 >> Okay. Thank you. I'm sorry, one more. 1254 00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:45,680 Uh, so what kind of midweek activities 1255 00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:47,119 would there be? 1256 00:55:47,119 --> 00:55:48,799 >> As of right now, there's none planned 1257 00:55:48,799 --> 00:55:52,799 outside of the administration and and 1258 00:55:52,799 --> 00:55:54,319 faculty of the church attending and 1259 00:55:54,319 --> 00:55:57,680 using the space as the offices. Um, we 1260 00:55:57,680 --> 00:55:59,920 have considered doing a Thursday night 1261 00:55:59,920 --> 00:56:01,839 service for those that can't attend on 1262 00:56:01,839 --> 00:56:04,960 Sunday mornings. Those would be much 1263 00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:07,440 more limited, I imagine, uh, with 1264 00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:09,520 attendance, but outside of that, there's 1265 00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:13,200 no real midweek activities planned. 1266 00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:14,880 >> What night of the week did you say? 1267 00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:17,040 >> Thursday, excuse me. 1268 00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:20,319 >> Okay. That's the same night as the city 1269 00:56:20,319 --> 00:56:24,480 uh events during the summer which would 1270 00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:26,480 create a possible 1271 00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:27,119 >> again this is 1272 00:56:27,119 --> 00:56:28,240 >> traffic nightmare. 1273 00:56:28,240 --> 00:56:30,240 >> This is this is only contemplated if 1274 00:56:30,240 --> 00:56:31,520 there were another night of the week 1275 00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:34,000 that would not interfere with um the 1276 00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:36,400 city events. I'm sure we'd be open to 1277 00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:37,440 it. 1278 00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:38,880 >> Thank you. 1279 00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:41,280 >> If I may, I I do have concerns about the 1280 00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:43,119 parking. Parking in Old Hillyard is 1281 00:56:43,119 --> 00:56:44,720 difficult, 1282 00:56:44,720 --> 00:56:48,720 you know, as it is now. And um so if we 1283 00:56:48,720 --> 00:56:53,359 could look at that and what you said 1284 00:56:53,359 --> 00:56:56,319 >> I take a motion 1285 00:56:56,319 --> 00:56:58,799 >> if if the question is getting to 1286 00:56:58,799 --> 00:57:00,799 postponing action on this. 1287 00:57:00,799 --> 00:57:01,200 >> Yes. 1288 00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:04,880 >> So that those can be or is it to 1289 00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:07,359 creating a condition? 1290 00:57:07,359 --> 00:57:09,760 Well, if we could postpone to see, you 1291 00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:12,240 know, uh what other options there might 1292 00:57:12,240 --> 00:57:15,599 be for any parking problems that come up 1293 00:57:15,599 --> 00:57:18,640 in the future, if you know, if the if 1294 00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:20,799 the congregation grows, as I understand, 1295 00:57:20,799 --> 00:57:24,640 of course, you want it too. And then the parking 1296 00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:26,400 will become a problem. And what do we 1297 00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:28,799 do? What do we do then? That's what I'd 1298 00:57:28,799 --> 00:57:32,470 like to talk about. 1299 00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:35,920 Well, and and currently under the number 1300 00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:38,720 of seats that they have proposed, 1301 00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:43,040 >> they are under what the code requires. 1302 00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:48,480 So that's I guess I'm not following 1303 00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:50,240 the question in relation to what the 1304 00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:52,880 code requirement is. 1305 00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:55,280 >> I think if if I might just to read it, 1306 00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:56,799 just read it back to be sure I'm hearing 1307 00:57:56,799 --> 00:57:58,960 things correctly. is the um it sounds 1308 00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:02,000 like maybe the question is if council is 1309 00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:04,319 interested in adding or talking about 1310 00:58:04,319 --> 00:58:06,400 other conditions for this conditional 1311 00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:09,040 use, we might need some time to digest 1312 00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:11,760 that. So if not to put words in 1313 00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:12,880 council's mouth, but then if the 1314 00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:17,200 question is how to postpone this so that conversation can happen, we can do 1315 00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:19,680 the due diligence and then come back. Is 1316 00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:21,119 that that's the question? 1317 00:58:21,119 --> 00:58:25,190 >> Yes. Thank you. Mhm. 1318 00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:27,200 » We need a motion then to postpone this 1319 00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:29,440 to a date uncertain. I would be glad to 1320 00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:31,200 make that motion. 1321 00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:32,880 >> Do you want it to a date uncertain or do 1322 00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:34,240 you want to make it a specific date, 1323 00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:35,440 which would be the next meeting, which 1324 00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:38,400 would be May 11th? 1325 00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:43,200 >> I like the flexibility, but I'm open to 1326 00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:45,280 >> if you administration thinks it' be best 1327 00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:47,359 for them. Can I ask a clarifying 1328 00:58:47,359 --> 00:58:49,359 question before we move on with it? 1329 00:58:49,359 --> 00:58:51,200 >> Um 1330 00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:54,240 that you said that um we could add 1331 00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:56,240 additional conditions. They can't be 1332 00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:57,920 added after the fact like if we were to 1333 00:58:57,920 --> 00:58:59,520 approve it tonight, we can't go back and 1334 00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:02,240 additional conditions regarding correct 1335 00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:03,440 parking. Okay. 1336 00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:04,799 >> Thank you. And I do have one question 1337 00:59:04,799 --> 00:59:06,559 for you as well. You said that you have 1338 00:59:06,559 --> 00:59:10,319 um 500 members already and so I assume 1339 00:59:10,319 --> 00:59:13,760 you have another church where they're 1340 00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:16,000 all going. Is this going to be an 1341 00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:17,680 additional church or are they are you 1342 00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:19,119 closing that one down and they're all 1343 00:59:19,119 --> 00:59:20,559 going to come to this one now? 1344 00:59:20,559 --> 00:59:22,720 >> Um, so I am a representative of Capitol 1345 00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:30,710 Church I believe. Luke, if you 1346 00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:33,040 » Hi, Luke Peterson. I'm a pastor at the 1347 00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:36,160 capital. Um, I can answer any questions. 1348 00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:39,760 One of them about parking is parking is 1349 00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:41,760 more of the limiter than the auditorium 1350 00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:46,000 size and we wouldn't want to put um more 1351 00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:47,599 make it difficult for people to park 1352 00:59:47,599 --> 00:59:49,280 even for our experience. And so we're 1353 00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:51,200 already at two services right now. We 1354 00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:54,799 would um add services that make parking 1355 00:59:54,799 --> 00:59:56,720 um not uh difficult for people to come 1356 00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:59,200 in and out. We currently meet at Bington 1357 00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:01,119 Elementary already a church doing two 1358 01:00:01,119 --> 01:00:02,880 services. And one of the main reasons is 1359 01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:06,880 because Bington has 94 parking spots. Um 1360 01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:08,960 and so, you know, families, every 1361 01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:10,720 everybody involved, we don't want to 1362 01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:12,400 make it difficult for people to come and 1363 01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:14,799 park and be able to walk right in. So, 1364 01:00:14,799 --> 01:00:16,559 um certainly do not want to make things 1365 01:00:16,559 --> 01:00:19,280 difficult for um you know, not only 1366 01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:21,680 people around that environment, but even 1367 01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:23,119 the people coming and going on that 1368 01:00:23,119 --> 01:00:25,680 street. So, uh it's it's easier for us 1369 01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:28,160 to add services than than mess with 1370 01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:29,599 parking. And we already have done that 1371 01:00:29,599 --> 01:00:32,400 up to this point. So, and and Thursday 1372 01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:34,799 nights we have uh we started a college 1373 01:00:34,799 --> 01:00:36,880 ministry as well and so we have a 1374 01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:38,480 Thursday night gathering that currently 1375 01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:40,640 meets at the Faucet Center uh which is 1376 01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:43,280 an athletic facility at Ohio State. Um 1377 01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:45,599 and so Thursday services would not 1378 01:00:45,599 --> 01:00:49,040 operate um during the summer at any 1379 01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:52,240 point anyways. Um so that another 1380 01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:54,480 consideration. 1381 01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:55,040 >> Thank you. 1382 01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:57,040 >> Yeah. 1383 01:00:57,040 --> 01:00:58,400 So to clarify, 1384 01:00:58,400 --> 01:00:58,799 >> yeah, 1385 01:00:58,799 --> 01:01:01,839 >> you might get 250 people at one service, 1386 01:01:01,839 --> 01:01:02,160 >> correct? 1387 01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:04,319 >> Maybe 250 people at the next service. 1388 01:01:04,319 --> 01:01:04,720 >> Yes. 1389 01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:07,280 >> Not all 500 are coming in at the same 1390 01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:07,680 time. 1391 01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:09,680 >> Exactly. Exactly. And that that would 1392 01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:11,119 also that number would also involve 1393 01:01:11,119 --> 01:01:12,160 kids. 1394 01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:14,400 >> And our calculation somewhere between 1395 01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:18,319 2.1 to 2.5 people per car that end up 1396 01:01:18,319 --> 01:01:20,400 coming. And so um you know, you might 1397 01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:22,799 have a family in a van and that's like 1398 01:01:22,799 --> 01:01:24,559 six people. A lot of those wouldn't be 1399 01:01:24,559 --> 01:01:26,480 in the auditorium, but that's still a a 1400 01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:28,960 attendance consideration for for us. 1401 01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:29,599 Yeah. 1402 01:01:29,599 --> 01:01:30,079 >> Thank you. 1403 01:01:30,079 --> 01:01:31,440 >> Yeah. So, 1404 01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:33,599 >> you'll have multiple locations. 1405 01:01:33,599 --> 01:01:35,680 >> Th only in one location. Yeah. This this 1406 01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:37,280 is our this would be our only location. 1407 01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:39,599 Yeah. So, we're just currently renting 1408 01:01:39,599 --> 01:01:43,119 weekly at Bington Elementary and uh have 1409 01:01:43,119 --> 01:01:45,599 gotten in contract to buy this and then 1410 01:01:45,599 --> 01:01:47,440 this would just be the the new church 1411 01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:48,960 building entirely. 1412 01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:49,599 >> Thank you. 1413 01:01:49,599 --> 01:01:52,079 >> Yeah. 1414 01:01:52,079 --> 01:01:53,760 You said there are two services. What 1415 01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:54,799 times are those? 1416 01:01:54,799 --> 01:01:56,799 >> 9 and 10:30. 1417 01:01:56,799 --> 01:01:59,280 >> Okay. And do you have any uh plans on 1418 01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:00,960 like renting out the space when you're 1419 01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:03,440 not using it or will it be empty? 1420 01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:05,520 >> Uh we're I mean we're open to anything. 1421 01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:08,240 I know Hillyard um has used it as an 1422 01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:10,960 event space and we certainly want to be 1423 01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:13,839 the the kind of church that adds value 1424 01:02:13,839 --> 01:02:16,319 to Hillyard, not takes from Hillyard. Um 1425 01:02:16,319 --> 01:02:19,440 and so definitely open to that. At this 1426 01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:21,440 point, the McCoy will continue to 1427 01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:22,960 operate through the end of the year 1428 01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:25,839 through 2026. We just felt like um they 1429 01:02:25,839 --> 01:02:27,359 had a lot of events already on the 1430 01:02:27,359 --> 01:02:28,880 books. They have weddings, those kind of 1431 01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:30,400 things. And and we didn't want to make 1432 01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:32,079 them have to pull that off. You know, I 1433 01:02:32,079 --> 01:02:33,920 can imagine a bride who's got this whole 1434 01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:36,319 thing um figured out. And so all through 1435 01:02:36,319 --> 01:02:39,839 2026, we're making no adjustments, 1436 01:02:39,839 --> 01:02:41,359 staying completely out, allowing the 1437 01:02:41,359 --> 01:02:43,359 McCoy to continue to operate at that 1438 01:02:43,359 --> 01:02:45,680 point. Um and then from this point 1439 01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:47,680 forward like we we want to be of value 1440 01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:49,520 to the city is is our goal. And so 1441 01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:51,200 whatever whatever I mean the building a 1442 01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:54,640 lot of time will be um not used because 1443 01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:56,799 Sunday morning is the primary space for 1444 01:02:56,799 --> 01:02:59,119 that. But um would would love for the 1445 01:02:59,119 --> 01:03:00,960 building to be of of value to the 1446 01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:02,720 school. I mean it's right across you 1447 01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:05,680 know a little pond from Derby and so you 1448 01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:07,280 know whatever we could do to be helpful 1449 01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:09,440 to school districts and cities and we we 1450 01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:11,680 want the building to be um definitely 1451 01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:16,309 full use. So, 1452 01:03:16,319 --> 01:03:18,880 but it's not it's not our intention to 1453 01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:21,440 rent it out at at this point for we 1454 01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:22,799 don't have any plans to do that, I 1455 01:03:22,799 --> 01:03:25,760 guess, is the best way to answer that. 1456 01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:27,119 >> Do we have any other questions for the 1457 01:03:27,119 --> 01:03:29,359 applicant before we invite staff back 1458 01:03:29,359 --> 01:03:35,109 up? Okay. Thank you. 1459 01:03:35,119 --> 01:03:37,520 » And I just wanted to clarify um with the 1460 01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:39,520 question about renting it out. 1461 01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:42,720 Currently, their um application is just 1462 01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:44,640 for the use as they've proposed. So, if 1463 01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:47,200 they were to want to rent it as a 1464 01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:48,720 different type of assembly space, that 1465 01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:50,640 would require an additional application 1466 01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:53,839 to be um submitted to the city for 1467 01:03:53,839 --> 01:03:55,119 review. 1468 01:03:55,119 --> 01:03:57,039 >> Okay. Depending on, 1469 01:03:57,039 --> 01:03:58,480 >> right, depending on the use, whether it 1470 01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:00,160 was permitted or conditional or whatever 1471 01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:01,440 the processes, they would have to go 1472 01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:03,599 through that process. Right now, they've 1473 01:04:03,599 --> 01:04:06,160 just applied for the use as they've 1474 01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:08,960 proposed, which is a place of worship. 1475 01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:11,440 Does staff have an opinion or preference 1476 01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:14,000 on council adding some type of a 1477 01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:17,119 pedestrian traffic analysis as a 1478 01:04:17,119 --> 01:04:20,240 condition to ensure safe pedestrian use 1479 01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:23,839 of the trail? Uh we're definitely open 1480 01:04:23,839 --> 01:04:26,559 to it. Um without um the city engineer 1481 01:04:26,559 --> 01:04:29,039 being here, I don't know what parameters 1482 01:04:29,039 --> 01:04:30,640 that would need to look like for them to 1483 01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:32,720 be able to implement it appropriately. 1484 01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:34,160 So that's the only thing I might have 1485 01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:36,559 some concerns about is it being worded 1486 01:04:36,559 --> 01:04:38,960 in a way that we could actually ensure 1487 01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:42,400 would be implementable. Um but I other 1488 01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:45,359 you know we're totally amendable to um 1489 01:04:45,359 --> 01:04:48,799 conditions as needed. I think that the 1490 01:04:48,799 --> 01:04:51,359 pedestrian um traffic concerns is 1491 01:04:51,359 --> 01:04:52,880 something that could be addressed. We 1492 01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:55,280 would just need to make sure that it's 1493 01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:57,200 worded appropriately. I don't know that 1494 01:04:57,200 --> 01:04:58,880 if you have thoughts on that. 1495 01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:01,440 >> Right. I mean, my thought would be to 1496 01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:04,559 leave some leave the ability for the 1497 01:05:04,559 --> 01:05:06,640 engineer and the and the planning staff 1498 01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:10,160 to look at a 1499 01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:12,079 strategy and and essentially what I've 1500 01:05:12,079 --> 01:05:14,240 drafted up here if council's inclined to 1501 01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:16,880 such a condition is for applicant in 1502 01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:18,480 consultation with staff to provide a 1503 01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:20,240 strategy to minimize pedestrian and 1504 01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:22,400 traffic conflicts subject to staff 1505 01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:25,839 approval. Um, that's me sitting here 1506 01:05:25,839 --> 01:05:27,839 tonight on the fly thinking of a of a 1507 01:05:27,839 --> 01:05:32,079 condition Um if if council is inclined 1508 01:05:32,079 --> 01:05:35,599 for more time to consider that or for 1509 01:05:35,599 --> 01:05:38,720 staff to consider that look at either 1510 01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:42,480 May 11th or potentially May 27th 1511 01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:44,079 which is the second meeting in May and 1512 01:05:44,079 --> 01:05:45,680 may be more meaningable to getting 1513 01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:48,720 something in before the applicable 1514 01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:50,079 packet deadline. 1515 01:05:50,079 --> 01:05:51,920 >> I know this is a conditional use and 1516 01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:53,839 it's quasi judicial in our 1517 01:05:53,839 --> 01:05:55,839 decisionmaking. Do we need to ask the 1518 01:05:55,839 --> 01:05:57,920 applicant's permission to postpone the 1519 01:05:57,920 --> 01:05:59,039 same way they do at the planning 1520 01:05:59,039 --> 01:06:00,640 commission? 1521 01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:01,839 >> Uh, no, you do not. 1522 01:06:01,839 --> 01:06:05,039 >> Okay. Should I Would the applicant be 1523 01:06:05,039 --> 01:06:07,680 open to us postponing to be able to work 1524 01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:10,079 out that additional condition? 1525 01:06:10,079 --> 01:06:12,799 >> Yes. 1526 01:06:12,799 --> 01:06:15,760 >> Would anyone like to make a motion 1527 01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:17,599 postpone? I guess I'd like to make a 1528 01:06:17,599 --> 01:06:20,480 motion to postpone this for an uncertain 1529 01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:21,520 date. 1530 01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:24,559 >> Date uncertain to give you flexibility 1531 01:06:24,559 --> 01:06:28,480 between the 13th and the 27th 1532 01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:30,480 in May. Or would you prefer we pick a 1533 01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:33,039 date? 1534 01:06:33,039 --> 01:06:35,200 It doesn't matter to me. I mean, it's 1535 01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:36,720 just you can announce the date so that 1536 01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:38,160 they know when to come back. And it 1537 01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:40,640 would either be May 11th or May 26 1538 01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:44,319 because May 25th is a Memorial Day. 1539 01:06:44,319 --> 01:06:46,480 Why don't we say May 26 so that we have 1540 01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:48,960 a date on the calendar? Right. Then 1541 01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:50,960 >> if if that would need to move for some 1542 01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:53,760 reason, we can coordinate with the clerk 1543 01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:56,319 and with the applicant in the meantime. 1544 01:06:56,319 --> 01:06:58,559 >> Okay. So, Councilwoman, is that your 1545 01:06:58,559 --> 01:07:02,319 >> Yes. Yes. May 27th, 1546 01:07:02,319 --> 01:07:05,039 >> 26th, that Tuesday after Memorial Day. 1547 01:07:05,039 --> 01:07:05,280 Correct. 1548 01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:09,829 >> I'll second that. 1549 01:07:09,839 --> 01:07:11,440 » Would you please call the role? 1550 01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:13,599 >> Miss Rasul. Yes, 1551 01:07:13,599 --> 01:07:14,400 >> Mr. Teter. 1552 01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:15,039 >> Yes, 1553 01:07:15,039 --> 01:07:16,000 >> Mr. Bats. 1554 01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:16,559 >> Yes, 1555 01:07:16,559 --> 01:07:17,520 >> President Cole. 1556 01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:18,000 >> Yes, 1557 01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:19,280 >> Vice President Katone. 1558 01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:19,920 >> Yes, 1559 01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:20,880 >> Miss Vermillion. 1560 01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:21,280 >> Yes, 1561 01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:22,400 >> Miss Parker Jones. 1562 01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:22,799 >> Yes, 1563 01:07:22,799 --> 01:07:26,559 >> is postponed to 526. 1564 01:07:26,559 --> 01:07:30,880 Thank you. Um, resolution 26-R45 1565 01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:35,039 has been postponed to the May 26th, 1566 01:07:35,039 --> 01:07:39,510 2026 meeting. 1567 01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:41,839 All right. D. Would you please read 1568 01:07:41,839 --> 01:07:44,640 resolution 26-R46 1569 01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:46,720 by title only? 1570 01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:48,400 >> Authorizing the conditional use for 1571 01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:50,480 outdoor storage exceeding 10% of the 1572 01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:53,920 total area of the lot of parcel at 30 1573 01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:59,119 3700 to 3720 Lakeon Road within the I-FE 1574 01:07:59,119 --> 01:08:02,319 I270 corridor flex employment district. 1575 01:08:02,319 --> 01:08:03,599 >> Sir, staff report. 1576 01:08:03,599 --> 01:08:05,839 >> Yes, thank you. The site is currently 1577 01:08:05,839 --> 01:08:07,760 located on the east side of Lakeon Road. 1578 01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:10,720 It's approximately 825 ft south of 1579 01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:12,880 Cemetery Road. We do have a short 1580 01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:15,520 presentation that D is pulling up. Um 1581 01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:17,679 the site currently includes two existing 1582 01:08:17,679 --> 01:08:21,839 buildings which total 177823,000 1583 01:08:21,839 --> 01:08:24,239 square ft. The site also currently 1584 01:08:24,239 --> 01:08:28,480 includes um uh outdoor storage areas um 1585 01:08:28,480 --> 01:08:31,040 uh today. So this is the site from a 1586 01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:33,520 parcel view. Here are some existing 1587 01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:35,199 condition images. is you can see the 1588 01:08:35,199 --> 01:08:37,839 larger building and some of the parking 1589 01:08:37,839 --> 01:08:41,520 and outdoor storage as they exist today. 1590 01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:43,920 In 2023, city council approved a 1591 01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:45,759 conditional use for outdoor storage on 1592 01:08:45,759 --> 01:08:49,199 this site um that was 37% of the total 1593 01:08:49,199 --> 01:08:52,239 lot area. The property was purchased by 1594 01:08:52,239 --> 01:08:54,239 the current property owner in August of 1595 01:08:54,239 --> 01:08:57,359 2025. the same month. Um the site was 1596 01:08:57,359 --> 01:08:59,759 also reszoned to if Flex Employment in 1597 01:08:59,759 --> 01:09:02,080 the I270 corridor district as part of 1598 01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:04,560 the Z new zoning map um that was adopted 1599 01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:08,080 by city council in 20 August 2025. Uh so 1600 01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:10,159 currently the existing owner is 1601 01:09:10,159 --> 01:09:14,480 requesting for 6.88 acres or 35% of the 1602 01:09:14,480 --> 01:09:16,400 total lot area to be permitted as a 1603 01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:18,880 conditional use for outdoor storage. um 1604 01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:21,440 which is a similar um request as the 1605 01:09:21,440 --> 01:09:24,400 approval in 2023 um just slightly less 1606 01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:27,120 acreage and uh planning and zoning 1607 01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:29,040 commission voted 60 to provide a 1608 01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:30,480 positive recommendation for the 1609 01:09:30,480 --> 01:09:32,319 conditional use to be forwarded to city 1610 01:09:32,319 --> 01:09:34,640 council. 1611 01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:35,920 >> Thank you. Does council have any 1612 01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:41,590 questions or comments? 1613 01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:43,600 Is that unusual to have that high of a 1614 01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:45,679 percentage for that extra outdoor 1615 01:09:45,679 --> 01:09:46,880 storage? 1616 01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:49,679 >> Um, for this site, I think it's been 1617 01:09:49,679 --> 01:09:53,279 this way historically for decades. Um, 1618 01:09:53,279 --> 01:09:55,440 so that it's it's not unusual for this 1619 01:09:55,440 --> 01:09:58,400 site, I would say. Um, I think that it 1620 01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:01,920 is um on the higher side. Um, however, 1621 01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:04,800 it is a it is a very large site and so I 1622 01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:07,520 don't really know how to do a apples for 1623 01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:09,360 apples comparison on that without 1624 01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:11,760 crunching some numbers. Yeah, 1625 01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:15,270 >> you're welcome. 1626 01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:18,080 » Okay, no other questions or comments. I 1627 01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:20,159 would entertain a motion and a second to 1628 01:10:20,159 --> 01:10:23,510 approve. 1629 01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:25,520 » So moved. 1630 01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:26,800 >> Second. 1631 01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:29,679 >> D, would you please call the role? 1632 01:10:29,679 --> 01:10:30,640 Mr. Jeter. 1633 01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:31,120 >> Yes. 1634 01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:32,400 >> Miss Parker Jones. 1635 01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:32,880 >> Yes. 1636 01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:34,800 >> Vice President Katon. 1637 01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:35,760 >> Yes. 1638 01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:38,800 >> Miss Vermillion. 1639 01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:40,480 >> Yes. 1640 01:10:40,480 --> 01:10:41,520 >> Miss Russul. 1641 01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:42,159 >> Yes. 1642 01:10:42,159 --> 01:10:43,120 >> President Cole. 1643 01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:43,920 >> Yes. 1644 01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:45,120 >> Mr. Betts. 1645 01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:45,679 >> Yes. 1646 01:10:45,679 --> 01:10:47,280 >> Pass 70. 1647 01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:50,159 >> Resolution 26-R46 1648 01:10:50,159 --> 01:10:51,760 has passed and is in effect at the 1649 01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:55,120 earliest date allowable by law. D. Would 1650 01:10:55,120 --> 01:10:58,880 you please read resolution 26-R47 1651 01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:01,280 by title only 1652 01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:03,360 >> authorizing the city managers to secure 1653 01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:05,840 membership in the AARP network of age 1654 01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:07,120 friendly communities? 1655 01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:09,679 >> There staff report 1656 01:11:09,679 --> 01:11:10,400 that 1657 01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:12,000 >> would vice president Katone like to 1658 01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:13,920 deliver the staff report. May I deliver 1659 01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:16,640 it from here please? Gotta go down. No, 1660 01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:18,640 I'm just saying. 1661 01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:20,960 >> Um, so 1662 01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:24,239 City of Hillyard and Norwich Township 1663 01:11:24,239 --> 01:11:27,679 talked together about joining the AARP 1664 01:11:27,679 --> 01:11:29,760 um, age friendly community as we both 1665 01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:32,960 offer services to seniors and given that 1666 01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:35,440 this is a very popular program in the 1667 01:11:35,440 --> 01:11:39,679 United States and I there are some 88 1668 01:11:39,679 --> 01:11:42,480 cities, counties, townships in Ohio that 1669 01:11:42,480 --> 01:11:44,000 are members of the age friendly 1670 01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:46,800 community. We decided that it would be a 1671 01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:49,520 great opportunity for us to join this 1672 01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:52,719 group of people and um I submitted an 1673 01:11:52,719 --> 01:11:54,719 application and a letter of intent last 1674 01:11:54,719 --> 01:11:57,679 week. It was immediately approved and we 1675 01:11:57,679 --> 01:12:01,679 will have an event coming in two days. 1676 01:12:01,679 --> 01:12:05,760 Um, no, in a week and two days and I 1677 01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:07,120 will say a little bit more about that 1678 01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:10,000 later, but I would um appreciate council 1679 01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:12,239 approving this so that we can at no 1680 01:12:12,239 --> 01:12:14,640 charge to us and it's it's all good and 1681 01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:17,520 it's all gain. So, thank you. 1682 01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:18,960 >> Thank you. 1683 01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:20,400 Does council have any 1684 01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:23,520 questions or comments? 1685 01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:25,360 >> Seeing none, I would entertain a motion 1686 01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:26,960 and a second to approve. 1687 01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:27,679 >> So move. 1688 01:12:27,679 --> 01:12:30,320 >> Second. D, would you please call the 1689 01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:32,239 role? Vice President Katon. 1690 01:12:32,239 --> 01:12:32,719 >> Yes. 1691 01:12:32,719 --> 01:12:33,679 >> President Cole, 1692 01:12:33,679 --> 01:12:34,159 >> yes. 1693 01:12:34,159 --> 01:12:35,040 >> Mr. Betts, 1694 01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:35,600 >> yes. 1695 01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:36,640 >> Miss Vermillion, 1696 01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:37,040 >> yes. 1697 01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:38,320 >> Miss Parker Jones, 1698 01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:38,719 >> yes. 1699 01:12:38,719 --> 01:12:39,600 >> Mr. Teter, 1700 01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:39,920 >> yes. 1701 01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:40,800 >> Miss Russul, 1702 01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:41,280 >> yes. 1703 01:12:41,280 --> 01:12:42,400 >> Pass 70. 1704 01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:45,199 >> Resolution 26-R47 1705 01:12:45,199 --> 01:12:46,880 has passed and is in effect at the 1706 01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:49,360 earliest date allowable by law. This 1707 01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:51,520 concludes the legislative portion of the 1708 01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:53,760 agenda. 1709 01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:55,840 I would like to again welcome our new 1710 01:12:55,840 --> 01:12:58,480 city manager, Josh Roush. We are happy 1711 01:12:58,480 --> 01:13:00,719 that you're here. Um, we hope you've had 1712 01:13:00,719 --> 01:13:02,960 a fun first meeting with us. Um, and 1713 01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:04,159 we're looking forward to working with 1714 01:13:04,159 --> 01:13:06,000 you as Hillyard continues to grow 1715 01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:08,080 through these exciting times. So, thank 1716 01:13:08,080 --> 01:13:08,800 you. 1717 01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:09,920 >> Thank you. 1718 01:13:09,920 --> 01:13:12,159 >> Um, do we have any staff reports this 1719 01:13:12,159 --> 01:13:14,239 evening? 1720 01:13:14,239 --> 01:13:17,600 >> Nope. Do we have a city manager update? 1721 01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:19,280 >> Yes, ma'am. Just very briefly, I just 1722 01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:21,199 want to echo the invitation to everyone 1723 01:13:21,199 --> 01:13:24,880 for for the 43026 event uh next Thursday 1724 01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:26,960 from 6:30 to 8:30 p.m. which will be at 1725 01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:28,640 Station Park. It should be a lot of fun. 1726 01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:30,239 I'll be out there kind of meeting and 1727 01:13:30,239 --> 01:13:32,000 greeting the community as well. There's 1728 01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:33,600 a lot of information on our website and 1729 01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:35,280 a huge thanks to our team for helping to 1730 01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:37,679 pull all that together. Um I do want to 1731 01:13:37,679 --> 01:13:39,120 thank everybody as well for just the 1732 01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:40,960 very warm welcome to the community from 1733 01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:43,760 council to staff to um business owners 1734 01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:45,920 and stakeholders. Um it's been a 1735 01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:48,239 tremendously inviting experience uh so 1736 01:13:48,239 --> 01:13:49,920 far and we are really looking forward to 1737 01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:52,000 building relationships with everyone in 1738 01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:54,640 the coming weeks and months. Um I also 1739 01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:56,239 particularly want to thank Mr. Dan 1740 01:13:56,239 --> 01:13:58,320 Rally, who's unavailable this evening, 1741 01:13:58,320 --> 01:14:00,239 but I think did an excellent job as your 1742 01:14:00,239 --> 01:14:01,920 interim city administrator, city 1743 01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:04,320 manager, uh, for about nine months. Um, 1744 01:14:04,320 --> 01:14:06,159 that's a very difficult role for staff 1745 01:14:06,159 --> 01:14:07,440 to play because you're kind of swimming 1746 01:14:07,440 --> 01:14:09,920 in two lakes a little bit. Um, and I do 1747 01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:12,400 appreciate all of his steady hand at the 1748 01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:14,960 wheel um, during that period. And 1749 01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:17,199 finally, I just want to acknowledge uh, 1750 01:14:17,199 --> 01:14:19,679 staff really and um, all the work that 1751 01:14:19,679 --> 01:14:21,040 they've been doing, especially during 1752 01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:23,040 that period of transition to keep things 1753 01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:25,440 going. Uh we had a lot going on 1754 01:14:25,440 --> 01:14:27,679 everywhere regionally in that time. 1755 01:14:27,679 --> 01:14:29,199 There was a lot of snow that fell, a lot 1756 01:14:29,199 --> 01:14:30,480 of wind that knocked a lot of trees 1757 01:14:30,480 --> 01:14:32,800 down. A lot of calls had to go get run 1758 01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:35,199 and taken care of and your staff was out 1759 01:14:35,199 --> 01:14:36,960 in the trenches taking care of those 1760 01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:38,000 things. And so I want to just 1761 01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:39,360 acknowledge and hold that up, too. 1762 01:14:39,360 --> 01:14:41,280 You've got a great team here and it's a 1763 01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:42,719 privilege to be a part of it. So, thank 1764 01:14:42,719 --> 01:14:43,760 you. 1765 01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:46,880 >> Thank you. All right. Clerk of council 1766 01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:49,840 update D. Well, I actually wrote a 1767 01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:52,719 report today, so this will be riveting 1768 01:14:52,719 --> 01:14:55,840 for everyone. Um, the clerk council is 1769 01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:57,280 the steward of the city's records, 1770 01:14:57,280 --> 01:14:58,800 preserving the official history of 1771 01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:00,560 decisions, laws, and actions that shape 1772 01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:02,320 the community, which is the part of my 1773 01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:04,480 job I take very, very seriously and have 1774 01:15:04,480 --> 01:15:05,840 been passionate about my entire career 1775 01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:07,280 at both the federal and the local 1776 01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:09,679 levels. As you know, my assistant and I 1777 01:15:09,679 --> 01:15:11,920 have undertaken the significant task of 1778 01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:13,440 reviewing, indexing, and preserving 1779 01:15:13,440 --> 01:15:16,159 council records. Our first priority was 1780 01:15:16,159 --> 01:15:18,080 scanning or rescanning, indexing, and 1781 01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:20,159 uploading all ordinances dating back to 1782 01:15:20,159 --> 01:15:22,320 1990, as well as creating a 1783 01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:24,320 comprehensive master list of those 1784 01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:27,040 ordinances. The project was completed in 1785 01:15:27,040 --> 01:15:29,600 25 and included 2472 1786 01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:32,400 ordinances covering records only as far 1787 01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:34,560 back as 1990s, which have been uploaded 1788 01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:36,880 onto the system. Following completion of 1789 01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:39,040 that ordinance pro project, our focus 1790 01:15:39,040 --> 01:15:41,120 shift to resolutions. To date, 1791 01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:43,199 approximately 24,429 1792 01:15:43,199 --> 01:15:44,560 resolutions have been scanned or 1793 01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:46,960 rescanned and initially indexed and are 1794 01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:48,880 going through the process of being fully 1795 01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:51,120 indexed in final form, which means I 1796 01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:53,280 review them and reindex them so that 1797 01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:55,600 they're consistent with all other uh 1798 01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:59,760 resolutions. In addition, to date, 1653 1799 01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:01,280 sets of council minutes have been 1800 01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:04,719 scanned and indexed back to 1957. 1801 01:16:04,719 --> 01:16:06,320 As I continue reviewing the records, 1802 01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:08,800 additional pro projects have emerged. 1803 01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:11,040 Two mo notable ones include compiling a 1804 01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:13,600 history of Hillyard city council members 1805 01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:15,199 which I never thought anybody would look 1806 01:16:15,199 --> 01:16:17,040 at ever and we've referenced it quite a 1807 01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:19,360 bit and creating a master list of 1808 01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:21,520 annexations. The annexation product 1809 01:16:21,520 --> 01:16:23,600 project remains a work in progress as I 1810 01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:25,040 am working to connect all related 1811 01:16:25,040 --> 01:16:27,199 documentation including services 1812 01:16:27,199 --> 01:16:30,159 resolution and annex uh records. During 1813 01:16:30,159 --> 01:16:31,920 this records review process, I've also 1814 01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:33,600 uncovered some interesting historical 1815 01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:35,199 materials. Just last week, I sent 1816 01:16:35,199 --> 01:16:38,640 council uh a picture of an Ohio State 1817 01:16:38,640 --> 01:16:43,040 Journal newspaper dated March 6, 1933, 1818 01:16:43,040 --> 01:16:44,640 as well as two minutes and ordinance 1819 01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:47,440 books dating back to 1872, which if I 1820 01:16:47,440 --> 01:16:49,840 shared with both of you, and on the most 1821 01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:51,440 exciting point, because Josh didn't 1822 01:16:51,440 --> 01:16:54,080 think I would say this, 1823 01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:59,440 May 6th is National Meeting Minutes Day. 1824 01:16:59,440 --> 01:17:01,920 This is the first annual one. I'm very 1825 01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:03,600 excited. I think there's going to be 1826 01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:05,760 flowers, balloons, and maybe a cake. So, 1827 01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:06,880 just so you remember, 1828 01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:09,520 >> maybe proclamation, you know, while 1829 01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:11,280 we're at it. 1830 01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:12,400 >> Yeah, 1831 01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:14,000 >> thank you. That's all I have. 1832 01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:16,719 >> That's awesome. Thank you. Okay. Does 1833 01:17:16,719 --> 01:17:18,560 council have any additional items for 1834 01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:20,000 discussion this evening? 1835 01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:21,920 >> Um, I just have a comment if I may, 1836 01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:24,159 please. So, I want to invite our 1837 01:17:24,159 --> 01:17:26,320 residents, members of council, and city 1838 01:17:26,320 --> 01:17:28,880 staff to a joint event with Norwich 1839 01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:30,800 Township where we will sign a 1840 01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:33,440 proclamation to celebrate our joining 1841 01:17:33,440 --> 01:17:36,719 the AARP age friendly community. This 1842 01:17:36,719 --> 01:17:38,800 event supports our community's ongoing 1843 01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:40,400 commitment to being welcoming, 1844 01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:43,040 inclusive, and responsive to residents 1845 01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:46,080 of all ages. We encourage residents and 1846 01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:47,760 community partners to attend this 1847 01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:50,480 historic event, which will be May 6. So 1848 01:17:50,480 --> 01:17:53,199 we can give you a shout out D at that 1849 01:17:53,199 --> 01:17:55,840 event. It's at 10:30 at the well. Thank 1850 01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:58,239 you. 1851 01:17:58,239 --> 01:18:02,080 >> I won't be taking minutes at that event. 1852 01:18:02,080 --> 01:18:05,840 >> Any additional items from anyone? 1853 01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:08,400 >> All right. Well, if there's nothing else 1854 01:18:08,400 --> 01:18:10,400 to report, I would entertain a motion 1855 01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:12,640 and a second to adjurnn the meeting. So 1856 01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:13,120 move. 1857 01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:14,000 >> Second. 1858 01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:16,239 >> All in favor say I. I. 1859 01:18:16,239 --> 01:18:18,400 >> Oppose. Same sign. This meeting is 1860 01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:39,189 adjourned. 1861 01:18:39,199 --> 01:18:44,790 Yep. 1862 01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:47,800 Okay.