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>> welcome, everyone, to

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tonight's AUGUST 24th, 2026,

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zoning hearing master hearing.

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My name is steve luce and I'll

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be handling tonight's hearing.

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At this point in time, if we

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could all rise for the pledge of

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allegiance.

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[Pledge of allegiance]

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Thank y'all.

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You MAY be seated.

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At that point in time I would

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like to introduce MS. Michelle

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heinrich from development

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services staff who will

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introduce the other staff

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members and go over any changes

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to this evening's agenda.

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Michelle?

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>> thank you.

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Michelle heinrich, development

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services.

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Up here at the dais from the

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county attorney's office is

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jared delfino, with the planning

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commission staff we have lily

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linehan, and with transportation

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staff, richard perez.

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And we do have some housekeeping

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items to announce for anyone

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who's waiting for any of the

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cases.

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Let me see.

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We have three cases that have

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been withdrawn.

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Those include major mod 26-0154.

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26-0206.

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And 26-0979.

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And the remaining cases that

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I'll announce have been

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continued to the SEPTEMBER

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28th, zhm hearing 26-0215,

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26-0237, pd 26-0281, pd 26-0283,

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major mod 26-0546, pd 26-0665,

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pd 26-0706, major mod 26-0735,

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or -- planned development

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26-0801, pd 26-0802, pd 26-0957,

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major mod 26-970, and standard

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rezoning 26-1158.

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And we don't any unpublished

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changes to the agenda to

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announce.

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>> all right.

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Regarding any today's hearing is

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there any any additional seating

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for anyone who can't find a seat

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inside this.

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>> yes, we do have the overflow

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room available on the first

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floor.

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It is the glass room when you

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exit the elevator to your right.

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There should be chairs and a tv

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there so you can watch the

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hearing.

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>> okay and there is generally

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enough time between applications

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that they can come up when their

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item is on the agenda.

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>> mm-hmm.

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>> okay.

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>> yes.

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>> very good.

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I have a few instructions to

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read into the record.

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The county attorney's office has

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a few instructions into

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into read

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into the record and then we will

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get started with tonight's

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Our hearing today -- consists of

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japed items that require a

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public hearing by the zoning

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hearing master.

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I will conduct a hearing on each

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agenda item, will file a

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recommendation within 15 working

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days after the conclusion of

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tonight's hearing.

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Those recommendations are then

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sent to the board of county

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commissioners who will make the

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final decisions.

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Our hearing officering will be

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I will ask questions related to

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scope of direct testimony.

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i MAY call and question

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witnesses as I deem appropriate,

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and I will decide all questions

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I will take evidence but will

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exclude evidence that is

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irrelevant, immaterial or unduly

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Evidence MAY be presented in

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written form and all testimony

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must be under oath.

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Hearsay evidence MAY be used to

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supplement or explain other

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evidence but shall not b

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sufficient alone to support a

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finding by me unless it would be

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admissible over objections in a

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civil action.

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Regarding the order of

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presentation for each item,

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first MS. Heinrich will

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introduce the case on the

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agenda, then the applicant and

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their witnesses will have any

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minutes to present their case.

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will have five minutes to

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present their case.

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Then the planning commission

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staff will have five minutes to

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present their position.

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Next, proponents, those people

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in support of an application,

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opponents will have 15 minutes

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have an opportunity to provide

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have five minutes for rebuttal.

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proponents or opponents, the

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15-minute time frame is a total

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time for each category.

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to speak, we will add up the

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total number of people, and the

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15 minutes will be divided as

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equally as possible.

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You MAY wish to designate a

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single spokesperson to more

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efficiently use the time.

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When you come up to the podium

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to speak, please start by giving

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your name and address for the

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record.

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The meeting is being recorded

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and we want mike sure we

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accurate -- make sure we

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accurately document who is

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speaking on the record.

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please sign in with the clerk's

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office with your name, address,

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the agenda item you are speaking

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of the podium.

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that's where you go to put in

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your name and address and the

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case you're speaking to.

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county attorney's office will

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have a few instructions to also

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>> good evening, jared fell

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delfino,

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assistant county attorney.

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Tonight's hearing is the first

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step of a tw-step rezoning

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process.

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This is the time for applicants

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andthrusted parties to present

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evidence and testimony.

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Any evidence presented tonight

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will become part of the complete

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factual record of each

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application and no additional

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evidence can be introduced after

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the closing of an application.

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The second step of the rezoning

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process is a public meeting for

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for -- before the board of

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county commissioners where the

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board will make a decision on

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each application heard tonight.

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Tonights' applications are

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scheduled to be heard by the

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board at its OCTOBER 13th,

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2026, land use meeting, unless a

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different date is stated by

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the board will only review the

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record and the recommendation

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made by the land use hearing

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officer for each application.

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The land use hearing officer

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will file a recommendation for

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each application heard tonight

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on SEPTEMBER 15th, 2026.

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The board of county

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commissioners has established a

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policy that directs which

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rezoning and major modifications

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applications are to be placed on

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the consent agenda at the

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board's land use meeting.

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The following applications MAY

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not be placed on the consent

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to add density outside the urban

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with failing level of service.

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record by non-applicant parties

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of record, either prior to or at

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The board will allow testimony

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by any party of record at its

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public meeting to consider the

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land use hearing officer's

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recommendation for any item on

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the regular agenda.

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Testimony by a party of record

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shall be limited to the record

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of the proceedings before the

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land use hearing officer unless

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additional evidence has been

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found admissible in accordance

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with section 10.03.04d of the

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land development code.

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individual who fits into at

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least one of the four following

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tonight and presents testimony

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or documentary evidence.

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Second, someone who has been

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certified by the U.S. Postal

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service as having been mailed

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notice of tonight's hearing.

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Third someone who has submitted

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documentary evidence to the

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master file triste two business

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days prior to tonight's hearing.

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submitted documentary evidence

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by proxy at tonight's hearing.

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The content of oral argument

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before the board shall be

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limited to the content of the

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testimony and other evidence

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submitted verbally or in writing

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to the land use hearing officer.

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attorney's office to ensure that

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only individuals who have met

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these requirements are allowed

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to speak before the board to

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ensure that no new evidence or

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testimony is introduced or

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allowed at the board's public

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hearing.

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For these reasons, please make

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sure all information you wish

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the board to consider at its

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public meeting is entered in

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tonight's record.

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Thank you.

296
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>> okay, thank you very much.

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All testimony must be provided

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under oath.

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Therefore, if you plan to speak

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tonight, please stand and raise

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your right hand so I MAY swear

302
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you in.

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[Swearing in]

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Okay, thank you.

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You MAY be seated.

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Okay, and with that we are done

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with the introductions and

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instructions.

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MS. Heinrich, we're ready for

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the first tiem.

311
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>> our first application is item

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c.1, standard rezoning 26-1168.

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The applicant is requesting to

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rezone property from cg with

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restrictions to cg with

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restrictions.

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Michelle mont ball no will

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provide staff findings after

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applicant's presentation.

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>> the applicant, please.

321
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>> yes, my name is larry -- do

322
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you want me to just present

323
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myself?

324
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>> okay.

325
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Go ahead.

326
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>> okay, my name's larry

327
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pallner.

328
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I'm inengineer of recordf with

329
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rc -- altmotsprings, florida.

330
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I am here at the pleasure of the

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board.

332
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We are just removing one of the

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restrictions to allow for --

334
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>> I'm trying to listen.

335
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I can't listen.

336
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>> I'm sorry, sir.

337
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Somebody tried to speak over

338
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you, but please proceed.

339
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>> okay.

340
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The purpose of this rezone is to

341
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remove one of the restrictions.

342
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The original restrictions on the

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property were no automotive

344
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sales, no adult shop, and no

345
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agricultural sales of large

346
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equipment.

347
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We do not plan on selling large

348
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equipment like I don't know,

349
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giant -- or anything like that.

350
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This is just a small business

351
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that sells planting supplies.

352
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But we wanted to make sure that

353
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the restriction did not

354
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adversely affect the business.

355
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And that's the whole purpose of

356
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this rezone.

357
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>> okay, very good.

358
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Thank you, sir.

359
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>> you're welcome.

360
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>> all right, and development

361
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services staff?

362
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>> the applicant's requesting to

363
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revise rezoning restrictions of

364
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existing commercial -- the

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request is to remove the

366
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language prohibiting sales and

367
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rental of farm and gardening

368
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equipment.

369
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The property is currently

370
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occupied by a farm and garden

371
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supply center which does not

372
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expressly permit the sales and

373
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rental of farm and garden

374
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equipment.

375
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If approved, both uses would be

376
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permitted.

377
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The property's located on

378
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linebaugh avenue near the

379
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intersection of north dale mabry

380
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with the area with commercial

381
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and office uses.

382
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Staff finds the rezoning

383
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supportable.

384
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I'm available if you have any

385
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questions.

386
00:13:59,707 --> 00:14:00,507
>> no questions.

387
00:14:00,507 --> 00:14:02,507
Thank you.

388
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And planning commission staff?

389
00:14:05,612 --> 00:14:06,790
>> lilyann linehan, planning

390
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commission stat.

391
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The subject property is within

392
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the office commercial 20 future

393
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land use category.

394
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It's within the urban service

395
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area and located within the

396
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limits of the greater

397
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carrollwood northdale community

398
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plan.

399
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It is currently developed with

400
00:14:17,958 --> 00:14:19,590
commercial uses and surrounded

401
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by mainly heavy an light

402
00:14:20,795 --> 00:14:22,663
commercial uses, near the west

403
00:14:22,663 --> 00:14:24,970
linebaugh avenue north dale

404
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mabry highway intersection.

405
00:14:25,299 --> 00:14:28,350
And in the surrounding area the

406
00:14:28,350 --> 00:14:28,768
land use is consists of the

407
00:14:28,768 --> 00:14:30,671
primarily commercial development

408
00:14:30,671 --> 00:14:31,372
with some public, quasi-public

409
00:14:31,372 --> 00:14:32,239
institutional and residential

410
00:14:32,239 --> 00:14:32,573
uses to the east and west of the

411
00:14:32,573 --> 00:14:34,800
site.

412
00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:35,543
And there are some light

413
00:14:35,543 --> 00:14:35,876
industrial uses located to the

414
00:14:35,876 --> 00:14:36,777
south.

415
00:14:36,777 --> 00:14:39,130
Collectively these existing land

416
00:14:39,130 --> 00:14:40,214
use patterns establishes a

417
00:14:40,214 --> 00:14:42,214
predominantly commercial context

418
00:14:42,216 --> 00:14:42,750
that supports the proposed

419
00:14:42,750 --> 00:14:43,517
rezoning.

420
00:14:43,517 --> 00:14:44,685
It's compatible with the

421
00:14:44,685 --> 00:14:47,850
surrounding area and consistent

422
00:14:47,721 --> 00:14:49,156
with flu's objective 3.1 and

423
00:14:49,156 --> 00:14:50,570
policy 3.1.3, which require

424
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developments to be compatible

425
00:14:52,930 --> 00:14:54,610
with the surrounding areas.

426
00:14:54,610 --> 00:14:56,830
It also satisfies the intent of

427
00:14:56,830 --> 00:14:57,765
flu's objective 4.4 and policy

428
00:14:57,765 --> 00:14:58,465
4.4.1, which require new

429
00:14:58,465 --> 00:14:59,700
development to be compatible

430
00:14:59,700 --> 00:15:00,134
with the surrounding

431
00:15:00,134 --> 00:15:01,769
neighborhood.

432
00:15:01,769 --> 00:15:02,904
The removal of the restriction

433
00:15:02,904 --> 00:15:04,710
for the sale of farm and garden

434
00:15:04,710 --> 00:15:05,806
equipment will not negatively

435
00:15:05,806 --> 00:15:06,807
impact the surrounding

436
00:15:06,807 --> 00:15:08,342
neighborhood, which consists of

437
00:15:08,342 --> 00:15:09,443
heavy and light commercial uses,

438
00:15:09,443 --> 00:15:10,745
and the applicant is stilt

439
00:15:10,745 --> 00:15:13,470
leaving the other original --

440
00:15:13,470 --> 00:15:14,382
still leaving the other original

441
00:15:14,382 --> 00:15:15,349
restrictions, domestic vehicles,

442
00:15:15,349 --> 00:15:17,251
pleasure craft, hobby vehicles

443
00:15:17,251 --> 00:15:17,785
and prohibits sexually oriented

444
00:15:17,785 --> 00:15:18,419
business.

445
00:15:18,419 --> 00:15:19,420
And the original planning

446
00:15:19,420 --> 00:15:20,255
commission findings were

447
00:15:20,255 --> 00:15:21,121
contingent upon these

448
00:15:21,121 --> 00:15:23,240
restrictions.

449
00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:23,924
The addition of farm and garden

450
00:15:23,924 --> 00:15:25,590
equipment sales will further the

451
00:15:25,590 --> 00:15:26,960
operation of the existing

452
00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:27,929
agricultural plant nursery, and

453
00:15:27,929 --> 00:15:28,563
would result in compatible

454
00:15:28,563 --> 00:15:30,163
development.

455
00:15:30,163 --> 00:15:31,332
And lastly, the addition of the

456
00:15:31,332 --> 00:15:32,867
sale of farm and garden

457
00:15:32,867 --> 00:15:35,267
equipment is supported by

458
00:15:35,703 --> 00:15:37,500
several policies under objective

459
00:15:37,500 --> 00:15:38,573
5.1, which state that in

460
00:15:38,573 --> 00:15:40,308
recognition of the importance of

461
00:15:40,308 --> 00:15:41,976
agricultural as an industry and

462
00:15:41,976 --> 00:15:42,911
a valuable economic resource,

463
00:15:42,911 --> 00:15:44,913
that hillsborough county shall

464
00:15:44,913 --> 00:15:45,946
promote the economic viability

465
00:15:45,946 --> 00:15:47,315
of agricultural activities by

466
00:15:47,315 --> 00:15:48,649
recognizing and providing for

467
00:15:48,649 --> 00:15:49,851
its unique characteristics and

468
00:15:49,851 --> 00:15:51,386
land use planning and land

469
00:15:51,386 --> 00:15:52,620
development regulations.

470
00:15:52,620 --> 00:15:54,255
So based upon the above

471
00:15:54,255 --> 00:15:55,857
considerations, the following

472
00:15:55,857 --> 00:15:56,758
goals, objectives and policies,

473
00:15:56,758 --> 00:15:57,724
planning commission staff finds

474
00:15:57,724 --> 00:15:58,525
the proposed rezoning consistent

475
00:15:58,525 --> 00:15:59,694
with the unincorporated

476
00:15:59,694 --> 00:16:00,629
hillsborough county

477
00:16:00,629 --> 00:16:01,762
comprehensive plan, subject to

478
00:16:01,762 --> 00:16:03,665
the restrictions proposed by

479
00:16:03,665 --> 00:16:04,632
development services department.

480
00:16:04,632 --> 00:16:06,501
>> thank you.

481
00:16:06,501 --> 00:16:07,636
At this point in time s

482
00:16:07,636 --> 00:16:08,937
, is there

483
00:16:08,937 --> 00:16:09,738
anyone in the audience that

484
00:16:09,738 --> 00:16:12,974
wishes to speak in support of

485
00:16:12,974 --> 00:16:14,409
the application?

486
00:16:14,409 --> 00:16:16,411
Seeing no one responding, anyone

487
00:16:16,411 --> 00:16:20,611
in the audience wish to speak in

488
00:16:21,416 --> 00:16:23,618
opposition to the application?

489
00:16:23,618 --> 00:16:24,920
Seeingnone responding, staff,

490
00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:26,555
anything further?

491
00:16:26,555 --> 00:16:28,555
>> no, sir.

492
00:16:29,524 --> 00:16:30,580
>> applicant, opportunity for

493
00:16:30,580 --> 00:16:32,580
rebuttal.

494
00:16:40,635 --> 00:16:42,170
Sir, are you good?

495
00:16:42,170 --> 00:16:43,380
All right.

496
00:16:43,380 --> 00:16:44,439
I don't know what happened to

497
00:16:44,439 --> 00:16:46,308
him, but I think we're good on

498
00:16:46,308 --> 00:16:46,775
this one.

499
00:16:46,775 --> 00:16:47,409
Okay.

500
00:16:47,409 --> 00:16:48,710
>> I have no rebuttal.

501
00:16:48,710 --> 00:16:49,378
i'm sorry.

502
00:16:49,378 --> 00:16:49,778
>> [Laughter]

503
00:16:49,778 --> 00:16:51,450
>> okay.

504
00:16:51,450 --> 00:16:52,246
Thank you.

505
00:16:52,246 --> 00:16:54,416
All right, with that that

506
00:16:54,416 --> 00:16:55,283
concludes this application.

507
00:16:55,283 --> 00:16:55,717
MS. Heinrich, we're ready for

508
00:16:55,717 --> 00:16:57,386
the next item.

509
00:16:57,386 --> 00:17:00,386
>> our next application is item

510
00:17:01,230 --> 00:17:03,423
c.2, standard rezoning 26-1184.

511
00:17:03,525 --> 00:17:06,525
The applicant is requesting to

512
00:17:07,290 --> 00:17:07,696
rezone property from as-1 to

513
00:17:07,696 --> 00:17:09,331
rsc-9

514
00:17:09,331 --> 00:17:10,666
rsc-9 with eare strictions.

515
00:17:10,666 --> 00:17:12,666
Sierra janes

516
00:17:15,270 --> 00:17:17,239
jane?Eetion good

517
00:17:17,239 --> 00:17:18,240
evening, kami corbett, suite

518
00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:20,240
1100, tampa, florida.

519
00:17:20,309 --> 00:17:20,809
Here representing mattamy

520
00:17:20,809 --> 00:17:20,910
homes

521
00:17:20,910 --> 00:17:22,411
.

522
00:17:22,411 --> 00:17:24,790
This is pretty straightforward.

523
00:17:24,790 --> 00:17:25,848
This is a standard rezoning

524
00:17:25,848 --> 00:17:27,749
request to rsc-9 restricted.

525
00:17:27,749 --> 00:17:28,851
The restriction is to the four

526
00:17:28,851 --> 00:17:31,353
units to the acre that's allowed

527
00:17:31,353 --> 00:17:33,753
by the comprehensive plan.

528
00:17:34,156 --> 00:17:34,690
The site that's outlined and

529
00:17:34,690 --> 00:17:36,425
dashicide

530
00:17:36,425 --> 00:17:37,393
dashed is actually a site we

531
00:17:37,393 --> 00:17:38,861
rezoned earlier rast year, and

532
00:17:38,861 --> 00:17:41,597
this is a continuation of that.

533
00:17:41,597 --> 00:17:45,197
You can just see this exhibit.

534
00:17:45,901 --> 00:17:46,469
We're going from as-1 to rsc-9

535
00:17:46,469 --> 00:17:48,469
restricted.

536
00:17:52,708 --> 00:17:53,909
We have minimum lot widths of 50 feet, I'm sorry, 60 feet with

537
00:17:53,909 --> 00:17:55,909
7200-foot lots.

538
00:17:56,879 --> 00:17:57,780
And a maximum density of four

539
00:17:57,780 --> 00:17:58,748
dwelling units per acre.

540
00:17:58,748 --> 00:18:00,149
These are some examples of the

541
00:18:00,149 --> 00:18:02,251
product that mattamy builds.

542
00:18:02,251 --> 00:18:03,652
They do a really nice job.

543
00:18:03,652 --> 00:18:04,620
Staff has found this consistent

544
00:18:04,620 --> 00:18:05,788
and compatible with the

545
00:18:05,788 --> 00:18:07,560
comprehensive plan and the land

546
00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:08,124
development code, and we have no

547
00:18:08,124 --> 00:18:09,792
objections from any reviewing

548
00:18:09,792 --> 00:18:11,394
agencies and we're herer

549
00:18:11,394 --> 00:18:12,728
here to

550
00:18:12,728 --> 00:18:13,429
answer any questions should you

551
00:18:13,429 --> 00:18:14,396
have any.

552
00:18:14,396 --> 00:18:16,796
>> no questions, thank you.

553
00:18:20,336 --> 00:18:21,537
Development services staff?

554
00:18:21,537 --> 00:18:22,305
>> good evening.

555
00:18:22,305 --> 00:18:22,839
Sierra james with development

556
00:18:22,839 --> 00:18:24,373
services.

557
00:18:24,373 --> 00:18:26,676
The applicant is requesting to

558
00:18:26,676 --> 00:18:29,312
rezone the site from as-1 to

559
00:18:29,312 --> 00:18:30,212
rsc-9 with the following

560
00:18:30,212 --> 00:18:32,212
applicant proposed restrictions.

561
00:18:32,447 --> 00:18:33,616
Development will pee limited to

562
00:18:33,616 --> 00:18:35,351
four de -- be limited to four

563
00:18:35,351 --> 00:18:37,751
dwelling units per acre.

564
00:18:38,754 --> 00:18:40,256
7,200 square feet minimum lot

565
00:18:40,256 --> 00:18:41,157
feet, and -- the subject site is

566
00:18:41,157 --> 00:18:43,557
located within the riverview

567
00:18:43,993 --> 00:18:44,627
community plan area off

568
00:18:44,627 --> 00:18:45,595
raulerson road.

569
00:18:45,595 --> 00:18:46,295
Much of the surrounding area

570
00:18:46,295 --> 00:18:48,295
consists of single-family

571
00:18:48,631 --> 00:18:50,631
residential uses, notably

572
00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:52,869
properties to the north are

573
00:18:52,869 --> 00:18:53,469
zoned rsc-9 with similar

574
00:18:53,469 --> 00:18:54,337
restrictions.

575
00:18:54,337 --> 00:18:56,372
Based on these considerations,

576
00:18:56,372 --> 00:18:56,940
staff find the proposed rezoning

577
00:18:56,940 --> 00:18:57,540
approvable.

578
00:18:57,540 --> 00:18:58,410
>> yeah, thank you.

579
00:18:58,410 --> 00:18:58,675
>> thank you.

580
00:18:58,675 --> 00:19:00,675
>> all right, planning

581
00:19:01,778 --> 00:19:02,745
commission staff.

582
00:19:02,745 --> 00:19:03,379
>> lilyann linehan, planning

583
00:19:03,379 --> 00:19:04,280
commission staff.

584
00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:05,415
The subject property is located

585
00:19:05,415 --> 00:19:07,415
within the residential 4

586
00:19:07,617 --> 00:19:09,618
louisiana category, is -- land

587
00:19:09,618 --> 00:19:10,530
use category, within the urban

588
00:19:10,530 --> 00:19:11,721
service area.

589
00:19:11,721 --> 00:19:12,922
>> andrew ross: and -- the

590
00:19:12,922 --> 00:19:15,158
intent of the residential 4

591
00:19:15,158 --> 00:19:16,590
category is for low density

592
00:19:16,590 --> 00:19:18,280
residential development, which

593
00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:20,130
aligns with the proposed use for

594
00:19:20,130 --> 00:19:21,765
single-family detached units.

595
00:19:21,765 --> 00:19:24,100
The maximum potential under this

596
00:19:24,100 --> 00:19:25,969
category is four dwelling units

597
00:19:25,969 --> 00:19:26,769
per grows acre and the maximum

598
00:19:26,769 --> 00:19:28,405
nonresidential development

599
00:19:28,405 --> 00:19:30,307
palings is 0.25 far.

600
00:19:30,307 --> 00:19:31,675
The planning commissiongisted

601
00:19:31,675 --> 00:19:32,809
to add a restriction to the

602
00:19:32,809 --> 00:19:34,878
wrezoning which would limit the

603
00:19:34,878 --> 00:19:35,845
residential development to a

604
00:19:35,845 --> 00:19:37,213
maximum of four dwelling units

605
00:19:37,213 --> 00:19:38,470
and align with the residential 4

606
00:19:38,470 --> 00:19:40,447
future land use category.

607
00:19:40,450 --> 00:19:41,418
The applicant agreed to add this

608
00:19:41,418 --> 00:19:42,652
restriction which made a total

609
00:19:42,652 --> 00:19:44,554
of three restrictions.

610
00:19:44,554 --> 00:19:45,922
The other two include a minimum

611
00:19:45,922 --> 00:19:49,693
lot width of 60 feet and to have

612
00:19:49,693 --> 00:19:50,930
a minimum lot area of 7,207

613
00:19:50,930 --> 00:19:51,995
square feet.

614
00:19:51,995 --> 00:19:53,562
The surrounding land use site

615
00:19:53,562 --> 00:19:54,865
pattern consists primarily of

616
00:19:54,865 --> 00:19:55,565
residential uses with some

617
00:19:55,565 --> 00:19:57,200
agricultural land to the north

618
00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:57,935
and this request would provide a

619
00:19:57,935 --> 00:19:58,702
compatible use that is

620
00:19:58,702 --> 00:19:59,602
consistent with the surrounding

621
00:19:59,602 --> 00:20:00,337
residential uses and existing

622
00:20:00,337 --> 00:20:02,337
character.

623
00:20:02,539 --> 00:20:05,539
And is consistent with objective

624
00:20:05,909 --> 00:20:06,442
3.1 and its associated related

625
00:20:06,442 --> 00:20:08,442
policies.

626
00:20:08,879 --> 00:20:09,913
The surrounding zoning pattern

627
00:20:09,913 --> 00:20:11,913
consists of agricultural-rural

628
00:20:12,382 --> 00:20:13,884
to the east, rsc-3 to the south,

629
00:20:13,884 --> 00:20:15,385
as-1 to the west, and rsc-9 to

630
00:20:15,385 --> 00:20:17,353
the north.

631
00:20:17,353 --> 00:20:19,656
This requested rezoning from

632
00:20:19,656 --> 00:20:20,624
as-1 to the rsc-9 restricted is

633
00:20:20,624 --> 00:20:22,826
consistent with the existing

634
00:20:22,826 --> 00:20:23,726
zoning and development pattern

635
00:20:23,726 --> 00:20:26,663
in the vicinity and therefore

636
00:20:26,663 --> 00:20:28,665
the request is consistent with

637
00:20:28,665 --> 00:20:29,765
objective 4.4 and policy 4.4.1.

638
00:20:29,765 --> 00:20:31,168
And lastly the site is within

639
00:20:31,168 --> 00:20:32,802
the riverview community plan,

640
00:20:32,802 --> 00:20:34,338
which desires to reflect the

641
00:20:34,338 --> 00:20:35,339
vision of the riverview district

642
00:20:35,339 --> 00:20:36,405
concept map.

643
00:20:36,405 --> 00:20:38,475
It is within the residential

644
00:20:38,475 --> 00:20:39,276
district on this map, which

645
00:20:39,276 --> 00:20:40,477
encourages residential

646
00:20:40,477 --> 00:20:42,120
development that complements the

647
00:20:42,120 --> 00:20:43,147
sounderring area.

648
00:20:43,147 --> 00:20:43,781
Surrounding area and promotes

649
00:20:43,781 --> 00:20:45,115
housing diversity.

650
00:20:45,115 --> 00:20:46,450
The request would provide

651
00:20:46,450 --> 00:20:47,785
additional housing opportunities

652
00:20:47,785 --> 00:20:49,153
in an area already

653
00:20:49,153 --> 00:20:49,687
characterizedases a residential

654
00:20:49,687 --> 00:20:51,656
district.

655
00:20:51,656 --> 00:20:52,423
So based upon these

656
00:20:52,423 --> 00:20:53,900
considerations, planning

657
00:20:53,900 --> 00:20:53,757
commission staff finds the

658
00:20:53,757 --> 00:20:55,292
proposed planned development

659
00:20:55,292 --> 00:20:56,125
consistent with the

660
00:20:56,125 --> 00:20:56,760
unincorporated hillsborough

661
00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:58,127
county comprehensive plan,

662
00:20:58,127 --> 00:20:59,229
subject to the conditions

663
00:20:59,229 --> 00:21:00,431
proposed by the development

664
00:21:00,431 --> 00:21:00,998
services department.

665
00:21:00,998 --> 00:21:01,965
>> okay.

666
00:21:01,965 --> 00:21:03,965
Thank you.

667
00:21:04,101 --> 00:21:05,202
At that point, is there anyone

668
00:21:05,202 --> 00:21:07,370
in the audience that wishes to

669
00:21:07,370 --> 00:21:10,370
speak in support of the

670
00:21:10,274 --> 00:21:11,342
application?

671
00:21:11,342 --> 00:21:14,342
Seeing no one responding, anyone

672
00:21:14,712 --> 00:21:15,613
in the audience wish to speak in

673
00:21:15,613 --> 00:21:17,147
opposition to the application?

674
00:21:17,147 --> 00:21:19,147
>> yes, please.

675
00:21:20,851 --> 00:21:22,851
>> yes, ma'am.

676
00:21:26,357 --> 00:21:26,824
>> mary iamb pieri, can you hear

677
00:21:26,824 --> 00:21:27,225
me?

678
00:21:27,225 --> 00:21:28,993
>> yes.

679
00:21:28,993 --> 00:21:29,794
>> okay.

680
00:21:29,794 --> 00:21:31,794
Mute the tv.

681
00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:34,960
Sorry.

682
00:21:35,365 --> 00:21:36,566
We had a meet and greet with the

683
00:21:36,566 --> 00:21:37,702
consultants, and the builders,

684
00:21:37,702 --> 00:21:39,702
which was wonderful.

685
00:21:40,738 --> 00:21:41,772
Answered a lot of our questions.

686
00:21:41,772 --> 00:21:45,242
Just want to kind of make sure

687
00:21:45,242 --> 00:21:46,277
that they're going to stick to

688
00:21:46,277 --> 00:21:47,780
the plan since the other three

689
00:21:47,780 --> 00:21:49,981
developments in the area have

690
00:21:49,981 --> 00:21:50,915
not stuck to the plan.

691
00:21:50,915 --> 00:21:52,550
I got to lower this.

692
00:21:52,550 --> 00:21:54,550
I'm sorry.

693
00:21:54,619 --> 00:21:56,587
We want to make sure she did

694
00:21:56,587 --> 00:21:57,989
mention raulerson road.

695
00:21:57,989 --> 00:22:00,158
We want to make sure that there

696
00:22:00,158 --> 00:22:02,794
is no egress to raulerson road

697
00:22:02,794 --> 00:22:03,326
other than the emergency locked

698
00:22:03,326 --> 00:22:05,326
entrance.

699
00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:08,320
That was very important to us.

700
00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:08,666
We want to make sure that that's

701
00:22:08,666 --> 00:22:09,567
for sure.

702
00:22:09,567 --> 00:22:10,367
Actually I think I'm the only

703
00:22:10,367 --> 00:22:11,936
one that going to be here

704
00:22:11,936 --> 00:22:12,937
because everybody's feeling

705
00:22:12,937 --> 00:22:15,337
totally defeated again since

706
00:22:15,673 --> 00:22:18,443
this is our third neighborhood.

707
00:22:18,443 --> 00:22:20,440
We wanted to have the street

708
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,480
lights to be covered at the top

709
00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:22,981
and pointing down into their

710
00:22:22,981 --> 00:22:23,982
roadway.

711
00:22:23,982 --> 00:22:24,582
Quy discussed that with the

712
00:22:24,582 --> 00:22:26,117
builder also.

713
00:22:26,117 --> 00:22:28,517
We wanted requesting an

714
00:22:33,158 --> 00:22:34,559
eight-foot fence between

715
00:22:34,559 --> 00:22:36,600
their properties and outs

716
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:38,296
instead of the six -- ours

717
00:22:38,296 --> 00:22:39,264
instead of the six-foot one.

718
00:22:39,264 --> 00:22:39,997
Compliance is another issue we

719
00:22:39,997 --> 00:22:40,832
continue to have a problem with

720
00:22:40,832 --> 00:22:43,832
in all of these developments

721
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:45,103
that back up to our rural

722
00:22:45,103 --> 00:22:46,871
acreage.

723
00:22:46,871 --> 00:22:49,507
They need to comply with the

724
00:22:49,507 --> 00:22:50,709
work days and times, including

725
00:22:50,709 --> 00:22:54,112
there crews that they hire, the

726
00:22:54,112 --> 00:22:56,512
construction crews, the roofers,

727
00:22:56,547 --> 00:22:58,516
not landscapers, the concrete

728
00:22:58,516 --> 00:22:59,351
trucks, the framing crews.

729
00:22:59,351 --> 00:23:00,185
Been quite the problem in the

730
00:23:00,185 --> 00:23:01,820
past, and we're going to be

731
00:23:01,820 --> 00:23:05,420
doing this for another two years

732
00:23:06,425 --> 00:23:08,590
since this project is the

733
00:23:08,590 --> 00:23:10,462
11 acres, the other project is

734
00:23:10,462 --> 00:23:12,397
the first phase, which backs up

735
00:23:12,397 --> 00:23:13,231
to it.

736
00:23:13,231 --> 00:23:14,199
Anyhow, regardless we want to

737
00:23:14,199 --> 00:23:16,968
make sure that they're going to

738
00:23:16,968 --> 00:23:17,435
honor what they're supposed to

739
00:23:17,435 --> 00:23:19,371
honor.

740
00:23:19,371 --> 00:23:20,372
They weren't sure about if they

741
00:23:20,372 --> 00:23:20,805
were utilizing natural gas or

742
00:23:20,805 --> 00:23:22,805
not.

743
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:25,900
We were curious about that.

744
00:23:25,900 --> 00:23:25,544
I don't know if that'll get

745
00:23:25,544 --> 00:23:27,544
answered later.

746
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:30,549
We do have issues about the

747
00:23:30,549 --> 00:23:32,384
density.

748
00:23:32,384 --> 00:23:32,818
Are schools are at just about

749
00:23:32,818 --> 00:23:34,753
full capacity.

750
00:23:34,753 --> 00:23:35,253
We gave them a copy of all of

751
00:23:35,253 --> 00:23:37,253
those percentages.

752
00:23:40,192 --> 00:23:41,226
We have six schools in this area

753
00:23:41,226 --> 00:23:41,926
right across the street from

754
00:23:41,926 --> 00:23:42,427
each other.

755
00:23:42,427 --> 00:23:43,495
Blah blah blah.

756
00:23:43,495 --> 00:23:43,962
It's tearable to get in and out

757
00:23:43,962 --> 00:23:45,397
of here.

758
00:23:45,397 --> 00:23:48,997
You can't until after the school

759
00:23:51,300 --> 00:23:53,300
buses are gone.

760
00:23:53,710 --> 00:23:53,605
We're hoping that that gets

761
00:23:53,605 --> 00:23:55,374
addressed.

762
00:23:55,374 --> 00:23:57,342
We don't know how but we're

763
00:23:57,342 --> 00:23:58,677
hoping that gets a second look.

764
00:23:58,677 --> 00:24:00,546
The drilling of the wells, if

765
00:24:00,546 --> 00:24:01,746
they're drilling any wells for

766
00:24:01,746 --> 00:24:02,815
reclaimed sprinklers, one of the

767
00:24:02,815 --> 00:24:05,215
neighbors just mentioned that,

768
00:24:05,718 --> 00:24:06,418
and I thought that was discussed

769
00:24:06,418 --> 00:24:07,252
they weren't going to have any

770
00:24:07,252 --> 00:24:08,186
wells on that property.

771
00:24:08,186 --> 00:24:10,556
Our wells have never been the

772
00:24:10,556 --> 00:24:11,256
same since they -- last two

773
00:24:11,256 --> 00:24:12,525
neighborhoods in.

774
00:24:12,525 --> 00:24:13,859
A few of them have collapsed.

775
00:24:13,859 --> 00:24:16,796
We've had to pull them up.

776
00:24:16,796 --> 00:24:19,196
We've had to redrill.

777
00:24:19,665 --> 00:24:21,665
Very expensive.

778
00:24:22,401 --> 00:24:23,202
Pump stations are a concern.

779
00:24:23,202 --> 00:24:24,769
There

780
00:24:24,769 --> 00:24:25,771
the new neighborhoods that are

781
00:24:25,771 --> 00:24:26,805
all around our acreage, they

782
00:24:26,805 --> 00:24:28,774
have a pump station but they're

783
00:24:28,774 --> 00:24:30,342
not muntered 24 hours day --

784
00:24:30,342 --> 00:24:32,945
monitored 24 hours a day, so we

785
00:24:32,945 --> 00:24:34,513
could go a day and a half, two

786
00:24:34,513 --> 00:24:36,150
day the sirens going off from

787
00:24:36,150 --> 00:24:37,149
their pumpstition

788
00:24:37,149 --> 00:24:38,117
pump stations.

789
00:24:38,117 --> 00:24:39,485
I understand phase 1 and phase 2

790
00:24:39,485 --> 00:24:41,120
are going to have separate pump

791
00:24:41,120 --> 00:24:43,688
stations, so that of course is

792
00:24:43,688 --> 00:24:45,124
another concern.

793
00:24:45,124 --> 00:24:48,124
Just a curious question about

794
00:24:48,194 --> 00:24:49,195
the notices.

795
00:24:49,195 --> 00:24:50,729
Like they just said this was

796
00:24:50,729 --> 00:24:52,698
done a year ago.

797
00:24:52,698 --> 00:24:53,765
We got a notice put on the

798
00:24:53,765 --> 00:24:55,670
street JULY 15th.

799
00:24:55,670 --> 00:24:56,936
That was the first notice that

800
00:24:56,936 --> 00:24:57,903
we all saw.

801
00:24:57,903 --> 00:25:00,303
inletters came shortly after

802
00:25:00,339 --> 00:25:01,841
that.

803
00:25:01,841 --> 00:25:04,477
I guess I can call the county

804
00:25:04,477 --> 00:25:06,546
tomorrow and find out about how

805
00:25:06,546 --> 00:25:08,446
many other notices they put up

806
00:25:08,446 --> 00:25:12,185
last year here and at the cat

807
00:25:12,185 --> 00:25:13,553
house project.

808
00:25:13,553 --> 00:25:16,288
I'm the only one here because

809
00:25:16,288 --> 00:25:18,288
everybody's feeling pretty

810
00:25:20,726 --> 00:25:22,361
voiceless and bulldozed over.

811
00:25:22,361 --> 00:25:24,464
We used to be country.

812
00:25:24,464 --> 00:25:25,898
We have a little one-lane dead

813
00:25:25,898 --> 00:25:28,301
end road we live on.

814
00:25:28,301 --> 00:25:29,502
We can't get off our property

815
00:25:29,502 --> 00:25:30,236
onto boyette road either.

816
00:25:30,236 --> 00:25:33,439
Takes forever if you want to go

817
00:25:33,439 --> 00:25:33,973
out and go in a different

818
00:25:33,973 --> 00:25:34,707
direction.

819
00:25:34,707 --> 00:25:36,843
Was hoping all this building

820
00:25:36,843 --> 00:25:38,445
wasn't going to keep happening

821
00:25:38,445 --> 00:25:40,546
and hit out here for at least

822
00:25:40,546 --> 00:25:42,115
ten more years.

823
00:25:42,115 --> 00:25:44,751
Not much property left since we

824
00:25:44,751 --> 00:25:45,919
just drove down the road and saw

825
00:25:45,919 --> 00:25:49,519
the girl scout camp has sold

826
00:25:50,557 --> 00:25:51,725
more property.

827
00:25:51,725 --> 00:25:52,692
There was no notice for that.

828
00:25:52,692 --> 00:25:53,525
Nobody saw any signs for that

829
00:25:53,525 --> 00:25:54,861
but it looks like it's going to

830
00:25:54,861 --> 00:25:57,630
be quite a big project down

831
00:25:57,630 --> 00:25:59,630
there too.

832
00:25:59,265 --> 00:26:00,600
So we've lost our overall area.

833
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,303
We're very, very concerned about

834
00:26:03,303 --> 00:26:05,205
the wildlife, the turtles.

835
00:26:05,205 --> 00:26:08,805
We have a number of foxes,

836
00:26:10,110 --> 00:26:11,445
coyotes, armadillos, possums,

837
00:26:11,445 --> 00:26:14,800
raccoons, the bocat we have not

838
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:14,881
seen him for quite awhile now.

839
00:26:14,881 --> 00:26:16,516
One of the other neighbors on

840
00:26:16,516 --> 00:26:17,684
the adjoining properties to this

841
00:26:17,684 --> 00:26:19,619
on hill crest they were

842
00:26:19,619 --> 00:26:21,455
concerneduct the drainage to

843
00:26:21,455 --> 00:26:22,488
their property also since these

844
00:26:22,488 --> 00:26:26,688
homes are going to be at a

845
00:26:29,229 --> 00:26:30,163
higher elevation than theirs.

846
00:26:30,163 --> 00:26:31,970
I thank you for your time and

847
00:26:31,970 --> 00:26:32,532
consideration, and I just hope

848
00:26:32,532 --> 00:26:34,634
the county just keeps following

849
00:26:34,634 --> 00:26:35,535
policy and doesn't just let

850
00:26:35,535 --> 00:26:35,836
these buildings bulldoze over

851
00:26:35,836 --> 00:26:36,436
them.

852
00:26:36,436 --> 00:26:37,737
Thank you for your time.

853
00:26:37,737 --> 00:26:38,939
>> thank you, ma'am.

854
00:26:38,939 --> 00:26:42,539
Is there anyone else in the

855
00:26:45,178 --> 00:26:45,746
audience that wishes to speak in

856
00:26:45,746 --> 00:26:46,613
opposition?

857
00:26:46,613 --> 00:26:49,613
Seeing no one responding, staff,

858
00:26:50,250 --> 00:26:51,685
anything further?

859
00:26:51,685 --> 00:26:54,621
>> I'll just note for the

860
00:26:54,621 --> 00:26:56,523
citizen who just spoke, we don't

861
00:26:56,523 --> 00:26:57,890
have any restrictions in regards

862
00:26:57,890 --> 00:26:58,691
to some of the items that she

863
00:26:58,691 --> 00:27:00,691
talked about.

864
00:27:01,940 --> 00:27:04,694
Just to let her know and

865
00:27:04,798 --> 00:27:07,700
specifically in terms of the

866
00:27:07,700 --> 00:27:09,436
emergency access, and where that

867
00:27:09,436 --> 00:27:13,360
might be if it's necessary, and

868
00:27:13,173 --> 00:27:14,240
anything with a perimeter fence.

869
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,143
I know he shengzed

870
00:27:16,143 --> 00:27:17,578
she mentioned eight feet.

871
00:27:17,578 --> 00:27:20,800
The highest you can go is six

872
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:20,614
feet unless you obtain a

873
00:27:20,614 --> 00:27:21,150
variance.

874
00:27:21,150 --> 00:27:23,150
>> cay.

875
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:26,486
To clarify, it's a request for

876
00:27:26,486 --> 00:27:27,540
euclidian zoning, right.

877
00:27:27,540 --> 00:27:27,688
>> yes.

878
00:27:27,688 --> 00:27:28,222
>> it's not a planned

879
00:27:28,222 --> 00:27:28,756
development, right?

880
00:27:28,756 --> 00:27:30,190
>> correct.

881
00:27:30,190 --> 00:27:33,190
>> that's why you only addressed

882
00:27:33,827 --> 00:27:34,461
a few items.

883
00:27:34,461 --> 00:27:34,862
>> correct.

884
00:27:34,862 --> 00:27:35,229
>> okay.

885
00:27:35,229 --> 00:27:35,596
Very good.

886
00:27:35,596 --> 00:27:36,230
Thank you.

887
00:27:36,230 --> 00:27:39,830
At this point in time, the

888
00:27:40,167 --> 00:27:40,701
applicant has an opportunity for

889
00:27:40,701 --> 00:27:41,835
rebuttal.

890
00:27:41,835 --> 00:27:43,437
>> I think I would just say as

891
00:27:43,437 --> 00:27:45,439
you are aware and as the county

892
00:27:45,439 --> 00:27:48,175
is aware, a lot of the issues

893
00:27:48,175 --> 00:27:49,109
with respect to access and

894
00:27:49,109 --> 00:27:50,810
drainage and those types of

895
00:27:50,810 --> 00:27:52,446
things happen at site

896
00:27:52,446 --> 00:27:54,882
development, and we're happy to

897
00:27:54,882 --> 00:27:55,482
keep a dialogue going with the

898
00:27:55,482 --> 00:27:57,510
neighborhood.

899
00:27:57,510 --> 00:27:57,885
The builder actually did the

900
00:27:57,885 --> 00:27:58,719
community meeting, and they

901
00:27:58,719 --> 00:28:00,540
would continue to meet with the

902
00:28:00,540 --> 00:28:01,888
community and try to address any

903
00:28:01,888 --> 00:28:03,156
concerns that they have.

904
00:28:03,156 --> 00:28:03,724
With that we don't anything

905
00:28:03,724 --> 00:28:04,525
further to offer.

906
00:28:04,525 --> 00:28:06,326
>> all right, very good, thank

907
00:28:06,326 --> 00:28:08,295
you, ma'am.

908
00:28:08,295 --> 00:28:10,231
With that, that concludes this

909
00:28:10,231 --> 00:28:11,331
item.

910
00:28:11,331 --> 00:28:12,566
MS. Heinrich, we're ready if the

911
00:28:12,566 --> 00:28:14,100
next case.

912
00:28:14,100 --> 00:28:15,436
>> -- for the next case.

913
00:28:15,436 --> 00:28:16,404
>> next item is major mod

914
00:28:16,404 --> 00:28:17,105
application 26-00

915
00:28:17,105 --> 00:28:18,406
0062.

916
00:28:18,406 --> 00:28:21,406
The applicant is requesting a

917
00:28:23,878 --> 00:28:24,979
major modification to pd

918
00:28:24,979 --> 00:28:25,980
77-0123.

919
00:28:25,980 --> 00:28:27,181
Sam ball with development

920
00:28:27,181 --> 00:28:28,516
services has reviewed this and

921
00:28:28,516 --> 00:28:29,249
will provide staff findings

922
00:28:29,249 --> 00:28:31,649
after the applicant fts

923
00:28:34,922 --> 00:28:36,922
ppresentation.

924
00:28:38,759 --> 00:28:41,262
>> good even, MR. Luce, tiler

925
00:28:41,262 --> 00:28:42,663
hudson, 400 north ashly drive.

926
00:28:42,663 --> 00:28:43,970
Going to go ahead and jump into

927
00:28:43,970 --> 00:28:45,970
a powerpoint.

928
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,702
The site is located just sort of

929
00:28:47,702 --> 00:28:50,702
behind a publix, behind public

930
00:28:51,539 --> 00:28:53,441
storage and general retail

931
00:28:53,441 --> 00:28:54,420
commercial cluster.

932
00:28:54,420 --> 00:28:54,442
Apollo beach boulevard.

933
00:28:54,442 --> 00:28:56,442
Nine acres.

934
00:28:57,145 --> 00:28:59,314
This is a part of dri59,

935
00:28:59,314 --> 00:29:00,982
specifically this is in pocket

936
00:29:00,982 --> 00:29:04,852
62b, so a lot going on in this

937
00:29:04,852 --> 00:29:06,254
dri from 1979.

938
00:29:06,254 --> 00:29:07,689
The project we're proposing is

939
00:29:07,689 --> 00:29:10,890
a multifamily apartment building

940
00:29:10,225 --> 00:29:12,492
four stories in height, 237

941
00:29:12,492 --> 00:29:13,795
total units with access off of

942
00:29:13,795 --> 00:29:16,195
apollo beach boulevard, this

943
00:29:16,297 --> 00:29:17,731
would really sit sort of

944
00:29:17,731 --> 00:29:20,235
squarely in the green pastural

945
00:29:20,235 --> 00:29:20,668
land behind the publix right

946
00:29:20,668 --> 00:29:22,300
now.

947
00:29:22,300 --> 00:29:23,971
We are not in much of a dispute

948
00:29:23,971 --> 00:29:25,206
with staff about the things that

949
00:29:25,206 --> 00:29:27,475
typically cause disputes in

950
00:29:27,475 --> 00:29:30,111
these chambers, which are things

951
00:29:30,111 --> 00:29:31,460
about compatibility or even the

952
00:29:31,460 --> 00:29:33,460
use of multifamily.

953
00:29:34,616 --> 00:29:35,383
This is really a fairly ideal

954
00:29:35,383 --> 00:29:36,818
multifamily infill site.

955
00:29:36,818 --> 00:29:37,451
Not really fighting about

956
00:29:37,451 --> 00:29:39,451
height.

957
00:29:40,989 --> 00:29:42,570
We're not really in disagreement

958
00:29:42,570 --> 00:29:44,292
about buffers, screening, things

959
00:29:44,292 --> 00:29:45,694
like that.

960
00:29:45,694 --> 00:29:47,562
After some time, we are I think

961
00:29:47,562 --> 00:29:48,997
no longer in disagreement about

962
00:29:48,997 --> 00:29:50,331
the administrative variances and

963
00:29:50,331 --> 00:29:53,331
design exceptions that the staff

964
00:29:54,690 --> 00:29:55,700
report indicated those were

965
00:29:55,700 --> 00:29:57,470
recommended for disapproval, but

966
00:29:57,571 --> 00:29:58,600
I believe that has been squared

967
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:00,600
away.

968
00:30:00,108 --> 00:30:01,510
What we are disputing is about a

969
00:30:01,510 --> 00:30:03,450
couple of words in the dri

970
00:30:03,450 --> 00:30:05,113
development order, so of course

971
00:30:05,113 --> 00:30:06,140
the apollo beach dri was

972
00:30:06,140 --> 00:30:08,140
implemented through a

973
00:30:08,550 --> 00:30:10,318
development order resolution in

974
00:30:10,318 --> 00:30:11,686
1979 as typical for DRIs of

975
00:30:11,686 --> 00:30:14,356
that vintage it's been amended a

976
00:30:14,356 --> 00:30:15,357
couple of times.

977
00:30:15,357 --> 00:30:16,124
But the section on trip

978
00:30:16,124 --> 00:30:18,524
generation has not been.

979
00:30:19,828 --> 00:30:23,428
Like most DRIs, the coin of

980
00:30:23,432 --> 00:30:24,532
the realm is -- trips.

981
00:30:24,532 --> 00:30:26,635
That is the -- and while there

982
00:30:26,635 --> 00:30:30,138
is a reference in the context of

983
00:30:30,138 --> 00:30:31,390
land use exchanges to

984
00:30:31,390 --> 00:30:33,390
referencing equivalent trip

985
00:30:34,209 --> 00:30:35,744
generation based on ite, we

986
00:30:35,744 --> 00:30:36,345
don't dispute that ite is the

987
00:30:36,345 --> 00:30:37,513
correct what.

988
00:30:37,513 --> 00:30:39,948
That is what you should be

989
00:30:39,948 --> 00:30:41,683
looking for the trip genraigz

990
00:30:41,683 --> 00:30:43,683
numbers.

991
00:30:45,187 --> 00:30:46,287
The dispute we have is that

992
00:30:46,287 --> 00:30:47,889
staff -- the reason that's

993
00:30:47,889 --> 00:30:49,580
problematic for us, and steve

994
00:30:49,580 --> 00:30:50,250
henry is going to speak about

995
00:30:50,250 --> 00:30:52,494
this in greater depth is there

996
00:30:52,494 --> 00:30:53,195
is no A.M. Trip baseline in the

997
00:30:53,195 --> 00:30:55,195
development order.

998
00:30:55,197 --> 00:30:56,498
We have a bundle of vested

999
00:30:56,498 --> 00:30:57,966
rights arising from the

1000
00:30:57,966 --> 00:31:00,669
ownership of the property going

1001
00:31:00,669 --> 00:31:02,669
back to 1979 nat

1002
00:31:02,838 --> 00:31:04,740
1979 that said that P.M.

1003
00:31:04,740 --> 00:31:05,307
Trips are how you alculate these

1004
00:31:05,307 --> 00:31:07,307
conversions.

1005
00:31:07,476 --> 00:31:09,111
So we're talking about apples.

1006
00:31:09,111 --> 00:31:09,578
Staff is asking us to consider

1007
00:31:09,578 --> 00:31:11,800
orfgz.

1008
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:12,948
Orange are good but they have no

1009
00:31:12,948 --> 00:31:14,216
business in affecting the

1010
00:31:14,216 --> 00:31:14,516
conversion we're seeking here by

1011
00:31:14,516 --> 00:31:15,284
this.

1012
00:31:15,284 --> 00:31:17,284
So yald

1013
00:31:18,220 --> 00:31:19,121
I would ask steve to touch on

1014
00:31:19,121 --> 00:31:20,550
a couple of the points on the

1015
00:31:20,550 --> 00:31:23,726
slide, and then I will be bak

1016
00:31:23,726 --> 00:31:24,292
to wrab it up.

1017
00:31:24,292 --> 00:31:26,292
>> okay.

1018
00:31:27,263 --> 00:31:29,663
>> good evening, steve henry,

1019
00:31:30,232 --> 00:31:30,533
tmc, 5023 west laurel, tampa,

1020
00:31:30,533 --> 00:31:32,533
33607.

1021
00:31:33,350 --> 00:31:34,203
As tyler had indicated, talked

1022
00:31:34,203 --> 00:31:34,537
to you a little bit about the

1023
00:31:34,537 --> 00:31:36,537
traffic.

1024
00:31:37,540 --> 00:31:39,275
So the reality is we actually

1025
00:31:39,275 --> 00:31:41,675
did the original traffic

1026
00:31:42,778 --> 00:31:44,447
analysis for apollo beach.

1027
00:31:44,447 --> 00:31:44,814
We did the phase 2, phase 3

1028
00:31:44,814 --> 00:31:46,148
analysis.

1029
00:31:46,148 --> 00:31:47,984
All those were based on the P.M.

1030
00:31:47,984 --> 00:31:49,451
Peak hour.

1031
00:31:49,451 --> 00:31:51,870
I

1032
00:31:51,870 --> 00:31:52,822
I've actually got a cape of the

1033
00:31:52,822 --> 00:31:54,824
analysis we can enter -- copy of

1034
00:31:54,824 --> 00:31:55,725
the analysis we can enter into

1035
00:31:55,725 --> 00:31:56,792
the record if need be.

1036
00:31:56,792 --> 00:31:59,928
But in addition to that we did

1037
00:31:59,928 --> 00:32:01,764
the dj farms dri analysis that

1038
00:32:01,764 --> 00:32:05,301
was based on P.M. Peak hour.

1039
00:32:05,301 --> 00:32:05,868
We updated the loom based on

1040
00:32:05,868 --> 00:32:08,360
P.M. Peak hour.

1041
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:09,605
We also did the southshore dri,

1042
00:32:09,605 --> 00:32:11,674
which was also we updated the

1043
00:32:11,674 --> 00:32:13,208
loom for that one.

1044
00:32:13,208 --> 00:32:17,408
Had based on P.M. Peak hour.

1045
00:32:18,181 --> 00:32:19,150
So the reality is when you're

1046
00:32:19,150 --> 00:32:20,984
looking at the trips associated

1047
00:32:20,984 --> 00:32:23,586
with it, the analysis for all

1048
00:32:23,586 --> 00:32:23,886
DRIs are based on P.M. Peak

1049
00:32:23,886 --> 00:32:25,288
hour.

1050
00:32:25,288 --> 00:32:26,488
So now to be asked to do A.M.,

1051
00:32:26,488 --> 00:32:29,525
the staff had to actually go

1052
00:32:29,525 --> 00:32:30,559
through an analysis to determine

1053
00:32:30,559 --> 00:32:32,294
what A.M. Trips were even

1054
00:32:32,294 --> 00:32:33,396
supposed to be analyzing since

1055
00:32:33,396 --> 00:32:34,397
they weren't in the dri.

1056
00:32:34,397 --> 00:32:37,397
So from our standpoint we

1057
00:32:38,340 --> 00:32:39,569
believe the P.M. Peak hour is

1058
00:32:39,569 --> 00:32:41,538
the reasonable equiv whreans for

1059
00:32:41,538 --> 00:32:43,206
the purposes of -- equivalency

1060
00:32:43,206 --> 00:32:45,575
for the purposes of evaluating

1061
00:32:45,575 --> 00:32:46,142
land use equivalencies.

1062
00:32:46,142 --> 00:32:48,142
>> okay.

1063
00:32:51,414 --> 00:32:53,414
>> thank you.

1064
00:32:54,217 --> 00:32:55,719
>> and that slide just says what

1065
00:32:55,719 --> 00:32:57,620
steve just said.

1066
00:32:57,620 --> 00:32:59,455
So the way the dominoes have

1067
00:32:59,455 --> 00:33:01,900
fallen here is we have some

1068
00:33:01,900 --> 00:33:02,580
staff opposition to this

1069
00:33:02,580 --> 00:33:03,593
request: really comes down from

1070
00:33:03,593 --> 00:33:05,662
a very narrow basis which is

1071
00:33:05,662 --> 00:33:08,620
what's the appropriate exchange

1072
00:33:11,935 --> 00:33:14,935
methodology for a 1979dri that

1073
00:33:16,606 --> 00:33:17,540
only provides for P.M. Trips for

1074
00:33:17,540 --> 00:33:18,742
the coin of realm.

1075
00:33:18,742 --> 00:33:20,477
What we have proposed to do we

1076
00:33:20,477 --> 00:33:21,478
think this is redundant.

1077
00:33:21,478 --> 00:33:23,146
We think it's not necessary but

1078
00:33:23,146 --> 00:33:24,481
we have file

1079
00:33:24,481 --> 00:33:26,283
filed a D.O. Amendment

1080
00:33:26,283 --> 00:33:27,751
to say what we think it already

1081
00:33:27,751 --> 00:33:31,287
says, which is that when we talk

1082
00:33:31,287 --> 00:33:34,287
about these land use exchanges,

1083
00:33:35,250 --> 00:33:35,792
it's about P.M. Trips as

1084
00:33:35,792 --> 00:33:36,360
provided in the original

1085
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,950
development order.

1086
00:33:38,950 --> 00:33:39,950
I think if that is approved

1087
00:33:39,950 --> 00:33:40,864
whether staff recommends its

1088
00:33:40,864 --> 00:33:42,466
approval is a separate thing.

1089
00:33:42,466 --> 00:33:43,700
If that were approved that would

1090
00:33:43,700 --> 00:33:47,300
allay any doubt here, but again

1091
00:33:47,504 --> 00:33:49,139
we just see this as just an add

1092
00:33:49,139 --> 00:33:51,139
on cures mechanism.

1093
00:33:52,142 --> 00:33:53,310
We do dispute the premise that

1094
00:33:53,310 --> 00:33:53,744
A.M. Peak trips have anything to

1095
00:33:53,744 --> 00:33:54,745
do.

1096
00:33:54,745 --> 00:33:55,746
That's completely irrelevant to

1097
00:33:55,746 --> 00:33:58,146
staff's analysis on the

1098
00:34:00,217 --> 00:34:02,850
conversion, so with that, I will

1099
00:34:02,850 --> 00:34:03,186
just note in closing this is a

1100
00:34:03,186 --> 00:34:05,289
pretty substantial impact fee

1101
00:34:05,289 --> 00:34:05,756
generator for the sieflt this

1102
00:34:05,756 --> 00:34:06,560
is.

1103
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:07,791
Site.

1104
00:34:07,791 --> 00:34:08,826
This is an infill housing, there

1105
00:34:08,826 --> 00:34:10,127
is multifamily in the periphery.

1106
00:34:10,127 --> 00:34:11,428
It is a blank piece of land near

1107
00:34:11,428 --> 00:34:13,529
a maimer road behind a publix

1108
00:34:13,529 --> 00:34:14,631
and some employment centers.

1109
00:34:14,631 --> 00:34:15,990
With that, appreciate your time.

1110
00:34:15,990 --> 00:34:17,990
Thank you.

1111
00:34:17,501 --> 00:34:20,337
>> yeah, if I could, because

1112
00:34:20,337 --> 00:34:21,171
read the staff report, and

1113
00:34:21,171 --> 00:34:22,772
they're taking the position,

1114
00:34:22,772 --> 00:34:23,506
maybe it's information you

1115
00:34:23,506 --> 00:34:25,506
tbroided to

1116
00:34:25,943 --> 00:34:29,543
provided to them, that the site

1117
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,316
is currently entitled for I

1118
00:34:32,316 --> 00:34:33,617
don't know, 34, 35,000 square

1119
00:34:33,617 --> 00:34:34,818
feet of retail.

1120
00:34:34,818 --> 00:34:35,319
>> that's what we're seeking to

1121
00:34:35,319 --> 00:34:37,319
convert.

1122
00:34:38,522 --> 00:34:40,922
We're seeking to convert 35,000.

1123
00:34:41,259 --> 00:34:44,259
>> that's what you think the

1124
00:34:45,196 --> 00:34:45,996
entitlements are on this

1125
00:34:45,996 --> 00:34:47,598
9.48 acres.

1126
00:34:47,598 --> 00:34:48,932
>> correct, converting that

1127
00:34:48,932 --> 00:34:49,967
to -- units 72 so if you

1128
00:34:49,967 --> 00:34:51,902
.

1129
00:34:51,902 --> 00:34:53,700
>> so if you could, or steeive

1130
00:34:53,700 --> 00:34:54,238
henry, walk me through how you

1131
00:34:54,238 --> 00:34:57,238
get from the 35,000 square feet

1132
00:35:14,458 --> 00:35:15,793
of retail to 237 units?

1133
00:35:15,793 --> 00:35:17,228
>> well, the staff had done it

1134
00:35:17,228 --> 00:35:18,362
based on P.M. Peak hour.

1135
00:35:18,362 --> 00:35:19,297
But what they also then looked

1136
00:35:19,297 --> 00:35:21,331
at was A.M. Peak hour.

1137
00:35:21,331 --> 00:35:22,366
So the P.M. Peak hour gets us

1138
00:35:22,366 --> 00:35:23,670
where we want to be.

1139
00:35:23,670 --> 00:35:25,467
>> explain that to me.

1140
00:35:28,639 --> 00:35:29,207
Walk me through that.

1141
00:35:29,207 --> 00:35:31,207
>> okay.

1142
00:35:31,609 --> 00:35:32,277
And I will, because we didn't

1143
00:35:32,277 --> 00:35:34,277
actually that.

1144
00:35:34,912 --> 00:35:37,912
Those were done by staff.

1145
00:35:41,510 --> 00:35:42,860
So I will pull that out here.

1146
00:35:42,860 --> 00:35:44,288
But essentially what staff was

1147
00:35:44,288 --> 00:35:47,458
looking at was, and they were

1148
00:35:47,458 --> 00:35:48,393
looking at both the inbound and

1149
00:35:48,393 --> 00:35:50,894
outbound trips, and then you

1150
00:35:50,894 --> 00:35:53,264
look at the equivalency of those

1151
00:35:53,264 --> 00:35:55,166
trips to get there.

1152
00:35:55,166 --> 00:35:55,700
And again I will have to go

1153
00:35:55,700 --> 00:35:56,801
through the number.

1154
00:35:56,801 --> 00:35:59,637
Really it was a matter of from

1155
00:35:59,637 --> 00:36:01,739
our standpoint we were asked to

1156
00:36:01,739 --> 00:36:02,206
look at what's the reasonable

1157
00:36:02,206 --> 00:36:03,942
rate?

1158
00:36:03,942 --> 00:36:04,409
Was it P.M.?

1159
00:36:04,409 --> 00:36:05,410
A.M.?

1160
00:36:05,410 --> 00:36:06,511
We were asked to look at that so

1161
00:36:06,511 --> 00:36:06,845
I have actually run through the

1162
00:36:06,845 --> 00:36:08,446
numbers.

1163
00:36:08,446 --> 00:36:10,315
I'm happy to do that.

1164
00:36:10,315 --> 00:36:12,830
>> all right, well let's back up

1165
00:36:12,830 --> 00:36:12,650
a step then and just

1166
00:36:12,650 --> 00:36:14,650
intuitively.

1167
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:15,620
You've done traffic for a while.

1168
00:36:15,620 --> 00:36:17,620
>> yes.

1169
00:36:17,889 --> 00:36:20,289
>> 35,000 square feet of retail

1170
00:36:24,462 --> 00:36:25,563
is that equivalent to 237 units?

1171
00:36:25,563 --> 00:36:27,131
>> yes, again, P.M. Peak hour

1172
00:36:27,131 --> 00:36:28,766
when you look at the gross

1173
00:36:28,766 --> 00:36:29,868
trips, that would be probably

1174
00:36:29,868 --> 00:36:31,836
equiv

1175
00:36:31,836 --> 00:36:32,404
quivalency.

1176
00:36:32,404 --> 00:36:33,271
>> okay.

1177
00:36:33,271 --> 00:36:34,710
>> and again I'm happy to look

1178
00:36:34,710 --> 00:36:37,671
at the numbers again because we

1179
00:36:40,178 --> 00:36:41,513
were just simply looking at what

1180
00:36:41,513 --> 00:36:43,480
was the reasonable, A.M. Or

1181
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:44,683
P.M., so dwrid

1182
00:36:44,683 --> 00:36:46,180
I didn't run through

1183
00:36:46,180 --> 00:36:46,718
the actual calculations.

1184
00:36:46,718 --> 00:36:49,118
I can do that.

1185
00:36:49,387 --> 00:36:51,456
>> can I ask the county staff,

1186
00:36:51,456 --> 00:36:52,591
transportation planner the same

1187
00:36:52,591 --> 00:36:54,326
question, maybe you come back on

1188
00:36:54,326 --> 00:36:55,920
rebuttal and show me the math.

1189
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:56,528
>> sure, absolutely.

1190
00:36:56,528 --> 00:36:59,497
We can definitely do that.

1191
00:36:59,497 --> 00:37:00,365
>> very good.

1192
00:37:00,365 --> 00:37:02,365
Thanks.

1193
00:37:02,701 --> 00:37:03,368
Does that conclude, MR. Hudson,

1194
00:37:03,368 --> 00:37:05,203
your presentation?

1195
00:37:05,203 --> 00:37:08,803
All right, at this point in

1196
00:37:10,175 --> 00:37:10,642
time, development services

1197
00:37:10,642 --> 00:37:11,810
staff.

1198
00:37:11,810 --> 00:37:12,544
>> good evenings sam ball with

1199
00:37:12,544 --> 00:37:14,544
hillsborough county development

1200
00:37:15,981 --> 00:37:17,382
services.

1201
00:37:17,382 --> 00:37:18,716
the applicant is requesting a

1202
00:37:18,716 --> 00:37:21,116
major modification to pocket

1203
00:37:21,620 --> 00:37:23,555
scob of pd 77-0123 to allow for

1204
00:37:23,555 --> 00:37:25,555
the development of 237

1205
00:37:25,924 --> 00:37:27,292
multifamily dwellings through an

1206
00:37:27,292 --> 00:37:28,861
exchange of commercial or office

1207
00:37:28,861 --> 00:37:30,162
use entitlements.

1208
00:37:30,162 --> 00:37:31,290
This application is being heard

1209
00:37:31,290 --> 00:37:33,290
concurrentdly

1210
00:37:33,365 --> 00:37:35,765
concurrently with a modification

1211
00:37:36,101 --> 00:37:38,871
to the apollo beach dri under

1212
00:37:38,871 --> 00:37:40,472
dri do26-2245.

1213
00:37:40,472 --> 00:37:43,242
The subject property is located

1214
00:37:43,242 --> 00:37:44,643
in the apollo beach community

1215
00:37:44,643 --> 00:37:46,578
planning area.

1216
00:37:46,578 --> 00:37:48,781
The development site adjoined

1217
00:37:48,781 --> 00:37:50,516
properties within the same pd on

1218
00:37:50,516 --> 00:37:51,550
all sides which are approved and

1219
00:37:51,550 --> 00:37:55,150
developed for a mix of office

1220
00:37:55,721 --> 00:37:56,922
and commercial uses that include

1221
00:37:56,922 --> 00:37:58,256
retail, light industrial, and

1222
00:37:58,256 --> 00:38:00,256
mini warehousing.

1223
00:38:00,993 --> 00:38:03,395
Additional uses in the area

1224
00:38:03,395 --> 00:38:05,164
include a religious institution,

1225
00:38:05,164 --> 00:38:07,164
multifamily, single-family,

1226
00:38:09,268 --> 00:38:10,690
conventional single-family

1227
00:38:10,690 --> 00:38:12,690
dwellings, multiuser office

1228
00:38:12,938 --> 00:38:16,538
complex and a mobile home park.

1229
00:38:18,144 --> 00:38:18,945
Balkt 62b is approved for 4 --

1230
00:38:18,945 --> 00:38:19,211
commercial or office square foot

1231
00:38:19,211 --> 00:38:21,147
use.

1232
00:38:21,147 --> 00:38:23,147
The proposes

1233
00:38:28,955 --> 00:38:29,755
-- allowing for the 237multifamily dwellings and

1234
00:38:29,755 --> 00:38:31,570
established vehicular and

1235
00:38:31,570 --> 00:38:33,326
pedestrian access points along

1236
00:38:33,326 --> 00:38:34,327
apollo beach boulevard and

1237
00:38:34,327 --> 00:38:35,561
pedestrian cross-access for the

1238
00:38:35,561 --> 00:38:38,264
property located to the north

1239
00:38:38,264 --> 00:38:40,264
and south.

1240
00:38:40,700 --> 00:38:41,367
The application includes a p

1241
00:38:41,367 --> 00:38:41,968
dvariation request to the

1242
00:38:41,968 --> 00:38:43,968
buffering and screening

1243
00:38:44,971 --> 00:38:46,105
requirements of ldc section

1244
00:38:46,105 --> 00:38:47,272
60606, that if approved would

1245
00:38:47,272 --> 00:38:49,308
reduce the required buffer and

1246
00:38:49,308 --> 00:38:51,878
screening permits from a 30-foot

1247
00:38:51,878 --> 00:38:52,745
c to a 10-foot b between the

1248
00:38:52,745 --> 00:38:53,479
proposed building envelope and

1249
00:38:53,479 --> 00:38:54,514
the light industrial site to the

1250
00:38:54,514 --> 00:38:55,681
north.

1251
00:38:55,681 --> 00:38:57,490
the activities associated with

1252
00:38:57,490 --> 00:38:59,452
the light industrial use to the

1253
00:38:59,452 --> 00:39:01,120
north are contained within a

1254
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:02,188
structure position of

1255
00:39:02,188 --> 00:39:03,690
approximately 120 feet north of

1256
00:39:03,690 --> 00:39:05,690
the property boundary.

1257
00:39:05,758 --> 00:39:06,960
The manufacturing -- the

1258
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,620
industrial facility to the north

1259
00:39:09,620 --> 00:39:10,263
is also gened from the subject

1260
00:39:10,263 --> 00:39:11,464
property -- developed from

1261
00:39:11,464 --> 00:39:12,465
subject property dense

1262
00:39:12,465 --> 00:39:12,999
vegetation and protected

1263
00:39:12,999 --> 00:39:14,999
wetlands.

1264
00:39:15,734 --> 00:39:17,270
The load docks of the industrial

1265
00:39:17,270 --> 00:39:18,805
facilities are located more than

1266
00:39:18,805 --> 00:39:20,600
275 feet from the proposed

1267
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,406
development, and are are

1268
00:39:22,642 --> 00:39:23,176
oriented towards the opposite

1269
00:39:23,176 --> 00:39:24,410
direction.

1270
00:39:24,410 --> 00:39:27,410
Based on these findings, staff

1271
00:39:28,381 --> 00:39:30,116
finds the approval of, finds

1272
00:39:30,116 --> 00:39:31,417
that the approval of the

1273
00:39:31,417 --> 00:39:32,552
requested waiver will have

1274
00:39:32,552 --> 00:39:33,653
minimal impacts.

1275
00:39:33,653 --> 00:39:34,988
Staff finds the proposed

1276
00:39:34,988 --> 00:39:36,156
development compatible with the

1277
00:39:36,156 --> 00:39:37,190
area based on zoning and

1278
00:39:37,190 --> 00:39:40,260
development pattern in the area,

1279
00:39:40,260 --> 00:39:41,161
and the above considerations.

1280
00:39:41,161 --> 00:39:42,328
However, there proposed number

1281
00:39:42,328 --> 00:39:43,430
of residential units would be

1282
00:39:43,430 --> 00:39:44,865
provided through a conversion of

1283
00:39:44,865 --> 00:39:46,865
commercial entitlements to

1284
00:39:47,167 --> 00:39:47,834
residential entitlements as

1285
00:39:47,834 --> 00:39:49,834
provided for

1286
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:50,736
for in the appaleo

1287
00:39:50,736 --> 00:39:52,736
beach dri.

1288
00:39:53,707 --> 00:39:54,741
The trip exchange requires at

1289
00:39:54,741 --> 00:39:56,676
least 310,003 square feet

1290
00:39:56,676 --> 00:39:58,678
instead of the 34,511 square

1291
00:39:58,678 --> 00:40:01,140
feet proposed buy applicant due

1292
00:40:01,140 --> 00:40:02,649
to directional daily inbound and

1293
00:40:02,649 --> 00:40:04,851
outbound directional A.M. And

1294
00:40:04,851 --> 00:40:06,520
inbound and directional P.M.

1295
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:07,354
Inbound trips.

1296
00:40:07,354 --> 00:40:09,990
Due to this final consideration,

1297
00:40:09,990 --> 00:40:10,557
staff finds the request not

1298
00:40:10,557 --> 00:40:11,425
supportable.

1299
00:40:11,425 --> 00:40:13,825
That concludes my presentation

1300
00:40:14,795 --> 00:40:15,562
if you have any questions.

1301
00:40:15,562 --> 00:40:17,562
>> okay.

1302
00:40:18,865 --> 00:40:19,833
Only with regard to traffic.

1303
00:40:19,833 --> 00:40:21,301
So I would like to hear from the

1304
00:40:21,301 --> 00:40:22,602
transportation planner for the

1305
00:40:22,602 --> 00:40:23,236
county.

1306
00:40:23,236 --> 00:40:24,136
>> okay.

1307
00:40:24,136 --> 00:40:24,537
James ratliff.

1308
00:40:24,537 --> 00:40:26,537
>> okay.

1309
00:40:27,306 --> 00:40:28,942
Thank you.

1310
00:40:28,942 --> 00:40:30,143
>> good evening, james ratliff,

1311
00:40:30,143 --> 00:40:30,811
development services,

1312
00:40:30,811 --> 00:40:32,145
transportation --

1313
00:40:32,145 --> 00:40:34,140
>> same question unless you have

1314
00:40:34,140 --> 00:40:35,549
other comments you want to make,

1315
00:40:35,549 --> 00:40:37,317
but the question I had for the

1316
00:40:37,317 --> 00:40:38,217
applicant's transportation

1317
00:40:38,217 --> 00:40:40,153
planner, show me the math.

1318
00:40:40,153 --> 00:40:43,153
How do you get from 34,511

1319
00:40:44,691 --> 00:40:46,860
square feet of retail to 237

1320
00:40:46,860 --> 00:40:47,427
multifamily units.

1321
00:40:47,427 --> 00:40:48,595
>> sure.

1322
00:40:48,595 --> 00:40:49,463
Let me start by saying I think

1323
00:40:49,463 --> 00:40:51,650
you asked the question whether

1324
00:40:51,650 --> 00:40:52,366
the things they were presenting

1325
00:40:52,366 --> 00:40:54,901
about how the other projects had

1326
00:40:54,901 --> 00:40:55,836
been done, dg farms, was

1327
00:40:55,836 --> 00:40:56,904
something that was presented to

1328
00:40:56,904 --> 00:40:57,905
us.

1329
00:40:57,905 --> 00:41:00,305
That data was provided.

1330
00:41:00,674 --> 00:41:01,675
This went up to the director of

1331
00:41:01,675 --> 00:41:02,575
development review which

1332
00:41:02,575 --> 00:41:03,243
essentially interpreted what the

1333
00:41:03,243 --> 00:41:04,278
development order states in

1334
00:41:04,278 --> 00:41:05,512
terms of how we would analyze

1335
00:41:05,512 --> 00:41:07,381
this project.

1336
00:41:07,381 --> 00:41:08,516
They also then I believe cept

1337
00:41:08,516 --> 00:41:11,251
that information to the county

1338
00:41:11,251 --> 00:41:13,651
attorney's office who again

1339
00:41:15,540 --> 00:41:15,855
agreed with staff's

1340
00:41:15,855 --> 00:41:16,890
interpretation of how the

1341
00:41:16,890 --> 00:41:18,580
development order reads so not

1342
00:41:18,580 --> 00:41:19,260
with responding what was done in

1343
00:41:19,260 --> 00:41:19,960
those other projects we have to

1344
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:21,128
review this project based on

1345
00:41:21,128 --> 00:41:21,595
what this development order

1346
00:41:21,595 --> 00:41:22,896
says.

1347
00:41:22,896 --> 00:41:25,896
Not what's usual or customary

1348
00:41:26,734 --> 00:41:28,369
but what was approved.

1349
00:41:28,369 --> 00:41:30,771
So in terms of the map, let's

1350
00:41:30,771 --> 00:41:31,972
see, I haven't used this thing

1351
00:41:31,972 --> 00:41:33,174
in about 20 years.

1352
00:41:33,174 --> 00:41:34,942
>> sorry, you haveilatal

1353
00:41:34,942 --> 00:41:35,443
you have a little

1354
00:41:35,443 --> 00:41:36,477
homework.

1355
00:41:36,477 --> 00:41:36,877
I gave the other side homework

1356
00:41:36,877 --> 00:41:38,877
too.

1357
00:41:51,959 --> 00:41:52,459
>> and going to need to zoom.

1358
00:41:52,459 --> 00:41:54,459
Okay.

1359
00:41:55,763 --> 00:41:57,497
So if that's hopefully you can

1360
00:41:57,497 --> 00:41:58,833
see that.

1361
00:41:58,833 --> 00:42:00,668
Sales this is essentially a

1362
00:42:00,668 --> 00:42:02,203
two-part problem.

1363
00:42:02,203 --> 00:42:03,671
So the first part is the

1364
00:42:03,671 --> 00:42:04,872
exchange of equivalent uses, and

1365
00:42:04,872 --> 00:42:07,174
then the second part of the

1366
00:42:07,174 --> 00:42:08,975
problem is assuming that the

1367
00:42:08,975 --> 00:42:10,645
exchange was done correctly,

1368
00:42:10,645 --> 00:42:13,581
kind of a subpart to the

1369
00:42:13,581 --> 00:42:15,750
question, is do they control the

1370
00:42:15,750 --> 00:42:16,784
entitlements necessary to

1371
00:42:16,784 --> 00:42:17,952
effectuate the exchange.

1372
00:42:17,952 --> 00:42:19,387
And the third or main problem is

1373
00:42:19,387 --> 00:42:20,540
does that exchange violate the

1374
00:42:20,540 --> 00:42:22,540
trip cap.

1375
00:42:23,558 --> 00:42:24,625
So those are kind of separate

1376
00:42:24,625 --> 00:42:26,625
but related issues.

1377
00:42:27,729 --> 00:42:28,763
And in the dri development order

1378
00:42:28,763 --> 00:42:31,366
again it introduces this concept

1379
00:42:31,366 --> 00:42:32,700
for this particular dri of

1380
00:42:32,700 --> 00:42:34,268
directional equivalency, and the

1381
00:42:34,268 --> 00:42:36,304
tripp cap only looks at P.M.

1382
00:42:36,304 --> 00:42:37,605
Peak hour.

1383
00:42:37,605 --> 00:42:41,420
But with regard to the exchange,

1384
00:42:41,420 --> 00:42:42,976
we look at all three periods and

1385
00:42:42,976 --> 00:42:44,145
directional equivalency as well.

1386
00:42:44,145 --> 00:42:45,813
So what you can see here is this

1387
00:42:45,813 --> 00:42:47,810
first line basically shows what

1388
00:42:47,810 --> 00:42:49,481
they're proposing to exchanger

1389
00:42:52,387 --> 00:42:53,621
too, which is 237 dwelling

1390
00:42:53,621 --> 00:42:54,389
units of apartments four stories

1391
00:42:54,389 --> 00:42:55,123
or higher and that's an

1392
00:42:55,123 --> 00:42:56,857
important consideration because

1393
00:42:56,857 --> 00:42:57,826
the particular code they used

1394
00:42:57,826 --> 00:42:58,827
higher the apartments are, the

1395
00:42:58,827 --> 00:43:00,562
lower the traffic they generate

1396
00:43:00,562 --> 00:43:02,130
per unit.

1397
00:43:02,130 --> 00:43:03,965
So that's what that first line

1398
00:43:03,965 --> 00:43:05,266
is showing.

1399
00:43:05,266 --> 00:43:08,690
The next line is essentially

1400
00:43:08,690 --> 00:43:10,400
taking of the 870,464 square

1401
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,400
feet of commercial entitlements,

1402
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:13,942
we said well, how much do we

1403
00:43:13,942 --> 00:43:18,142
have to reduce that number by in

1404
00:43:18,346 --> 00:43:19,381
order to achieve equiverancy inquiv lane in

1405
00:43:19,381 --> 00:43:21,815
all three team pire I understand

1406
00:43:21,815 --> 00:43:24,553
in -- periods in both the

1407
00:43:24,553 --> 00:43:26,221
inbound and outbound.

1408
00:43:26,221 --> 00:43:27,789
Average daily equivalency

1409
00:43:27,789 --> 00:43:28,156
inbound and outbound, so on and

1410
00:43:28,156 --> 00:43:29,725
so forth.

1411
00:43:29,725 --> 00:43:32,494
So it took quite a bit of

1412
00:43:32,494 --> 00:43:34,494
nonresidential entitlements to

1413
00:43:36,131 --> 00:43:36,698
achieve an A.M. Peak hour

1414
00:43:36,698 --> 00:43:37,999
equivalency.

1415
00:43:37,999 --> 00:43:40,635
And that's because the code that

1416
00:43:40,635 --> 00:43:41,936
was utilized when the code was

1417
00:43:41,936 --> 00:43:44,336
studied, generates a relatively

1418
00:43:44,473 --> 00:43:46,107
lower number, you know, of

1419
00:43:46,107 --> 00:43:48,507
outbound A.M. Trips.

1420
00:43:48,844 --> 00:43:50,545
So in order to get the number

1421
00:43:50,545 --> 00:43:51,413
and of outbound A.M. Trips to be

1422
00:43:51,413 --> 00:43:53,413
equivalent for residential,

1423
00:43:54,116 --> 00:43:55,150
which generates right a lot of

1424
00:43:55,150 --> 00:43:55,951
outbound A.M. Trips everybody's

1425
00:43:55,951 --> 00:43:59,551
leaving for work in the morning

1426
00:43:59,655 --> 00:44:02,550
you have to exchange 310,364

1427
00:44:02,190 --> 00:44:04,259
square feet in order to achieve

1428
00:44:04,259 --> 00:44:04,793
that outbound equivalency.

1429
00:44:04,793 --> 00:44:06,793
In

1430
00:44:06,995 --> 00:44:07,495
>> okay, so that's what you're

1431
00:44:07,495 --> 00:44:09,960
saying.

1432
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:10,265
You're saying they have to

1433
00:44:10,265 --> 00:44:12,665
exchange 310,000 square feet of

1434
00:44:14,169 --> 00:44:15,700
retail to get to 237 units.

1435
00:44:15,700 --> 00:44:17,907
>> correct, and it's all because

1436
00:44:17,907 --> 00:44:19,375
of this one column right here,

1437
00:44:19,375 --> 00:44:22,411
which is the outbound, in order

1438
00:44:22,411 --> 00:44:23,312
to get that 71 units, to be

1439
00:44:23,312 --> 00:44:24,813
equivalent, right you have a lot

1440
00:44:24,813 --> 00:44:27,813
of overage in these other

1441
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:29,118
categories, it's that one

1442
00:44:29,118 --> 00:44:30,218
directional equiv

1443
00:44:30,218 --> 00:44:32,218
quivalency in the

1444
00:44:33,322 --> 00:44:34,890
A.M. Outbound nat that was the

1445
00:44:34,890 --> 00:44:34,656
controlling factor.

1446
00:44:34,656 --> 00:44:34,957
>> got it.

1447
00:44:34,957 --> 00:44:35,657
Okay.

1448
00:44:35,657 --> 00:44:37,657
I understand.

1449
00:44:38,590 --> 00:44:39,695
>> and then the second part of

1450
00:44:39,695 --> 00:44:41,896
the test was assuming they had

1451
00:44:41,896 --> 00:44:43,666
the entitlements to exchange and

1452
00:44:43,666 --> 00:44:47,266
they could do that, then how

1453
00:44:47,403 --> 00:44:48,704
does it interact with the trip

1454
00:44:48,704 --> 00:44:49,872
cap.

1455
00:44:49,872 --> 00:44:51,207
So and according to this it

1456
00:44:51,207 --> 00:44:51,507
would exceed the cap by 10

1457
00:44:51,507 --> 00:44:52,308
trips.

1458
00:44:52,308 --> 00:44:54,643
He mentioned that you know they

1459
00:44:54,643 --> 00:44:56,645
were looking at a potential do

1460
00:44:56,645 --> 00:44:57,847
element as a curative mechanism

1461
00:44:57,847 --> 00:44:59,381
I believe, but again that's not

1462
00:44:59,381 --> 00:45:02,510
of record as of now so we

1463
00:45:02,510 --> 00:45:04,687
reviewed this case based on

1464
00:45:04,687 --> 00:45:06,722
what's currently being proposed,

1465
00:45:06,722 --> 00:45:08,524
and you know, possibility we

1466
00:45:08,524 --> 00:45:09,358
wouldn't support that even if

1467
00:45:09,358 --> 00:45:10,326
proposed but the point being

1468
00:45:10,326 --> 00:45:11,494
it's not being proposed

1469
00:45:11,494 --> 00:45:13,663
currently so we're reviewing it

1470
00:45:13,663 --> 00:45:14,196
as it currently sits.

1471
00:45:14,196 --> 00:45:14,563
>> okay.

1472
00:45:14,563 --> 00:45:15,300
All right.

1473
00:45:15,300 --> 00:45:17,300
That's helpful.

1474
00:45:17,166 --> 00:45:17,733
Thank you.

1475
00:45:17,733 --> 00:45:18,634
>> sure.

1476
00:45:18,634 --> 00:45:21,634
>> at this point in time,

1477
00:45:22,138 --> 00:45:23,390
planning commission staff.

1478
00:45:23,390 --> 00:45:23,538
>> lillian line 00, planning

1479
00:45:23,538 --> 00:45:25,538
commission staff.

1480
00:45:25,674 --> 00:45:26,576
The site is designated office

1481
00:45:26,576 --> 00:45:28,411
commercial 20 on the future land

1482
00:45:28,411 --> 00:45:29,678
use map and is within the urban

1483
00:45:29,678 --> 00:45:31,948
service area and within the

1484
00:45:31,948 --> 00:45:33,150
limits of the apollo beach

1485
00:45:33,150 --> 00:45:34,160
community plan and southshore

1486
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:35,217
area-wide systems plan.

1487
00:45:35,217 --> 00:45:36,452
Site's also part of a

1488
00:45:36,452 --> 00:45:38,187
development of regional impact

1489
00:45:38,187 --> 00:45:40,490
development order, and planning

1490
00:45:40,490 --> 00:45:42,892
commission staff finding is cub

1491
00:45:42,892 --> 00:45:44,127
tingance upon the application

1492
00:45:44,127 --> 00:45:44,594
being in compliance with the

1493
00:45:44,594 --> 00:45:45,661
dri.

1494
00:45:45,661 --> 00:45:47,997
The intent of the office

1495
00:45:47,997 --> 00:45:48,798
commercial 20 category is to

1496
00:45:48,798 --> 00:45:49,632
accommodate commercial and

1497
00:45:49,632 --> 00:45:51,601
office development while still

1498
00:45:51,601 --> 00:45:52,535
allowing for the consideration

1499
00:45:52,535 --> 00:45:54,237
of compatible residential uses

1500
00:45:54,237 --> 00:45:55,238
and the proposed residential

1501
00:45:55,238 --> 00:45:57,638
development exceeds the base

1502
00:45:57,940 --> 00:45:59,175
density of the 20 dwelling units

1503
00:45:59,175 --> 00:45:59,709
per acre allowed under this

1504
00:45:59,709 --> 00:46:01,277
category.

1505
00:46:01,277 --> 00:46:02,545
However, because of the dri, the

1506
00:46:02,545 --> 00:46:04,480
proposed units utilize a portion

1507
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:05,315
of the remaining residential

1508
00:46:05,315 --> 00:46:06,449
entitlements, and there

1509
00:46:06,449 --> 00:46:07,183
therefore the

1510
00:46:07,183 --> 00:46:08,617
proposal is consistent with the

1511
00:46:08,617 --> 00:46:10,860
intent of the oc-20 category,

1512
00:46:10,860 --> 00:46:12,550
subject to its compliance with

1513
00:46:12,550 --> 00:46:14,550
the dri.

1514
00:46:15,250 --> 00:46:16,793
Flu's objective 1.1 and of the

1515
00:46:16,793 --> 00:46:19,562
future land use section directs

1516
00:46:19,562 --> 00:46:20,396
80% of the county's growth into

1517
00:46:20,396 --> 00:46:22,432
the urban service area, and

1518
00:46:22,432 --> 00:46:23,499
flu's policy 3.1.3 requires new

1519
00:46:23,499 --> 00:46:25,350
development to be compatible

1520
00:46:25,350 --> 00:46:25,935
with the surrounding uses.

1521
00:46:25,935 --> 00:46:26,970
The proposed residential

1522
00:46:26,970 --> 00:46:28,137
development is compatible with

1523
00:46:28,137 --> 00:46:30,600
the surrounding development

1524
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:31,307
pattern, which includes light

1525
00:46:31,307 --> 00:46:32,942
industrial and commercial uses

1526
00:46:32,942 --> 00:46:34,644
with residential development

1527
00:46:34,644 --> 00:46:35,945
farther west along apollo beach

1528
00:46:35,945 --> 00:46:37,147
boulevard.

1529
00:46:37,147 --> 00:46:39,547
Proposed development also meets

1530
00:46:40,417 --> 00:46:42,118
the intent of flu's objective

1531
00:46:42,118 --> 00:46:43,619
4.4, policies 4.4.1, regarding

1532
00:46:43,619 --> 00:46:44,855
compatibility with surrounding

1533
00:46:44,855 --> 00:46:46,723
neighborhoods, while the apollo

1534
00:46:46,723 --> 00:46:47,924
beach community plan discourages

1535
00:46:47,924 --> 00:46:49,258
residential development that

1536
00:46:49,258 --> 00:46:50,894
exceeds 50 feet in height, the

1537
00:46:50,894 --> 00:46:52,529
subject site is located within

1538
00:46:52,529 --> 00:46:54,531
an intensive future land use

1539
00:46:54,531 --> 00:46:56,165
designation of office commercial

1540
00:46:56,165 --> 00:46:56,600
20 and an established commercial

1541
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:58,235
node.

1542
00:46:58,235 --> 00:46:59,770
Given the surrounding commercial

1543
00:46:59,770 --> 00:47:01,537
intensity and the location along

1544
00:47:01,537 --> 00:47:02,639
apollo beach boulevard and U.S.

1545
00:47:02,639 --> 00:47:03,840
Highway 41, the proposed

1546
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:05,642
building height is considered

1547
00:47:05,642 --> 00:47:06,109
compatible with the surrounding

1548
00:47:06,109 --> 00:47:08,109
area.

1549
00:47:08,145 --> 00:47:09,120
And lastly, the major --

1550
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:10,213
proposed major modification is

1551
00:47:10,213 --> 00:47:11,148
consistent with the vision of

1552
00:47:11,148 --> 00:47:13,517
the apollo beach community plan

1553
00:47:13,517 --> 00:47:14,851
and southshore area-wide systems

1554
00:47:14,851 --> 00:47:16,530
plans, by supporting development

1555
00:47:16,530 --> 00:47:18,221
within an established activity

1556
00:47:18,221 --> 00:47:19,289
center, and providing additional

1557
00:47:19,289 --> 00:47:21,525
residential opportunities in an

1558
00:47:21,525 --> 00:47:22,126
area served by existing urban

1559
00:47:22,126 --> 00:47:23,159
infrastructure.

1560
00:47:23,159 --> 00:47:24,695
So based upon these

1561
00:47:24,695 --> 00:47:26,663
considerations, planning

1562
00:47:26,663 --> 00:47:28,532
commission staff finds the

1563
00:47:28,532 --> 00:47:30,167
proposed major modification

1564
00:47:30,167 --> 00:47:31,100
consistent with the

1565
00:47:31,100 --> 00:47:31,635
unincorporated hillsborough

1566
00:47:31,635 --> 00:47:33,700
county comprehensive plan

1567
00:47:33,700 --> 00:47:34,371
subject to conditions proposed

1568
00:47:34,371 --> 00:47:35,271
by development services and in

1569
00:47:35,271 --> 00:47:36,600
compliants with the requirements

1570
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:38,600
of the dri.

1571
00:47:40,177 --> 00:47:41,945
>> okay, thank you.

1572
00:47:41,945 --> 00:47:44,180
All right at this in time, is

1573
00:47:44,180 --> 00:47:45,282
there anyone in the audience

1574
00:47:45,282 --> 00:47:48,118
that wishes to speak in support

1575
00:47:48,118 --> 00:47:49,153
of the application?

1576
00:47:49,153 --> 00:47:50,521
No one responding.

1577
00:47:50,521 --> 00:47:52,589
Anyone in the audience wish to

1578
00:47:52,589 --> 00:47:53,190
speak in opposition to the

1579
00:47:53,190 --> 00:47:54,591
application?

1580
00:47:54,591 --> 00:47:55,693
>> good evening, chair.

1581
00:47:55,693 --> 00:47:59,293
I believe we have eight people

1582
00:47:59,663 --> 00:48:00,230
signed up online to speak.

1583
00:48:00,230 --> 00:48:02,230
>> okay.

1584
00:48:05,536 --> 00:48:06,737
First person, please proceed.

1585
00:48:06,737 --> 00:48:07,171
>> brad, are you able to hear

1586
00:48:07,171 --> 00:48:09,171
me?

1587
00:48:09,240 --> 00:48:09,806
>> I am, is I'm sorry, I didn't

1588
00:48:09,806 --> 00:48:12,206
know I was first.

1589
00:48:12,910 --> 00:48:14,945
My name is brad ahlgren a

1590
00:48:14,945 --> 00:48:17,810
business owner at 208 apollo

1591
00:48:17,810 --> 00:48:18,249
beach boulevard, about 350 feet

1592
00:48:18,249 --> 00:48:20,584
southeast of the proposed

1593
00:48:20,584 --> 00:48:22,584
development.

1594
00:48:22,586 --> 00:48:24,688
And as I've said on the record,

1595
00:48:24,688 --> 00:48:25,356
that I've submitted, I'm not

1596
00:48:25,356 --> 00:48:27,356
opposed to progress.

1597
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:32,630
I'm not opposed to improvements,

1598
00:48:32,630 --> 00:48:33,398
however, I believe this

1599
00:48:33,398 --> 00:48:36,398
application would be to the

1600
00:48:36,700 --> 00:48:38,669
detriment of the community, and

1601
00:48:38,669 --> 00:48:39,604
a few things were said tonight

1602
00:48:39,604 --> 00:48:41,405
that the applicant was not

1603
00:48:41,405 --> 00:48:42,707
really in opposition to the

1604
00:48:42,707 --> 00:48:45,707
staff on heights and setbacks

1605
00:48:46,277 --> 00:48:48,677
and things like that.

1606
00:48:50,780 --> 00:48:51,982
In my submission to the county,

1607
00:48:51,982 --> 00:48:55,352
I've had viriance with that is

1608
00:48:55,352 --> 00:48:55,686
we do have opposition to the

1609
00:48:55,686 --> 00:48:57,686
height.

1610
00:48:59,824 --> 00:49:00,358
We do have opposition to the

1611
00:49:00,358 --> 00:49:01,326
setbacks.

1612
00:49:01,326 --> 00:49:05,430
And I trust that you all have

1613
00:49:05,430 --> 00:49:06,230
had a chance to read that

1614
00:49:06,230 --> 00:49:07,531
submission on the record.

1615
00:49:07,531 --> 00:49:10,340
However, I would like to speak

1616
00:49:10,340 --> 00:49:12,434
with, speak about the

1617
00:49:12,937 --> 00:49:14,937
comprehensive plan objective

1618
00:49:17,410 --> 00:49:17,909
2.2, which sets the density, let

1619
00:49:17,909 --> 00:49:20,309
me pull that up.

1620
00:49:22,460 --> 00:49:25,646
That sets maximum density, and I

1621
00:49:25,716 --> 00:49:29,254
don't believe any dri or trip

1622
00:49:29,254 --> 00:49:30,220
conversion can allow excess

1623
00:49:30,220 --> 00:49:32,220
density nat

1624
00:49:32,423 --> 00:49:32,790
that the objective

1625
00:49:32,790 --> 00:49:34,790
withholds.

1626
00:49:36,761 --> 00:49:37,628
So for oc-20 it allows up to

1627
00:49:37,628 --> 00:49:39,628
about 189 units.

1628
00:49:40,598 --> 00:49:41,366
I don't believe the dri

1629
00:49:41,366 --> 00:49:42,367
conversions, the trip

1630
00:49:42,367 --> 00:49:44,767
conversions can now exceed

1631
00:49:44,969 --> 00:49:45,503
something that the objective

1632
00:49:45,503 --> 00:49:46,738
withholds.

1633
00:49:46,738 --> 00:49:48,173
So I do have an you should

1634
00:49:48,173 --> 00:49:50,173
issue with that.

1635
00:49:51,420 --> 00:49:52,677
And then I also have submitted

1636
00:49:52,677 --> 00:49:55,981
on record that I don't believe

1637
00:49:55,981 --> 00:49:59,417
it is in, it is consistent also

1638
00:49:59,417 --> 00:50:02,417
with policy 3.1 in the scale,

1639
00:50:02,587 --> 00:50:04,210
the mass, the bulk of structure,

1640
00:50:04,210 --> 00:50:06,421
pedestrian and vehicular traffic

1641
00:50:06,691 --> 00:50:09,394
and so for the record, I've put

1642
00:50:09,394 --> 00:50:12,394
6 points down that I believe

1643
00:50:13,265 --> 00:50:15,665
support and corroborate that

1644
00:50:16,568 --> 00:50:19,204
with video evidence, with just

1645
00:50:19,204 --> 00:50:20,671
document evidence from the

1646
00:50:20,671 --> 00:50:22,875
traffic engineer and e and from

1647
00:50:22,875 --> 00:50:24,543
others and so -- how much time

1648
00:50:24,543 --> 00:50:25,610
do I have with eight people?

1649
00:50:25,610 --> 00:50:27,279
Two minutes?

1650
00:50:27,279 --> 00:50:28,213
>> yeah, if you divide it by

1651
00:50:28,213 --> 00:50:28,880
eight, there's roughly two

1652
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:30,880
minutes a person.

1653
00:50:30,916 --> 00:50:32,351
>> a little under two.

1654
00:50:32,351 --> 00:50:33,786
I'm probably very close to that

1655
00:50:33,786 --> 00:50:35,654
so I will have to yield my time,

1656
00:50:35,654 --> 00:50:39,854
but I trust that you all have

1657
00:50:41,493 --> 00:50:42,895
read that document, and towards

1658
00:50:42,895 --> 00:50:44,596
the end there I'm asking you do

1659
00:50:44,596 --> 00:50:46,131
not grant variances on the

1660
00:50:46,131 --> 00:50:48,531
setback or the height.

1661
00:50:51,502 --> 00:50:53,372
Keep consistent with the plan.

1662
00:50:53,372 --> 00:50:54,773
These plans were put in place.

1663
00:50:54,773 --> 00:50:56,375
They're good plans just as you

1664
00:50:56,375 --> 00:50:57,509
were looking at the dri and trip

1665
00:50:57,509 --> 00:50:58,477
conversion, I believe the

1666
00:50:58,477 --> 00:50:59,378
comprehensive plan should take

1667
00:50:59,378 --> 00:51:01,980
precedent over all of that.

1668
00:51:01,980 --> 00:51:02,881
So I'm opposed to it.

1669
00:51:02,881 --> 00:51:03,348
>> all right, very good, thank

1670
00:51:03,348 --> 00:51:05,348
you, sir.

1671
00:51:06,385 --> 00:51:08,387
All right, next person woo who

1672
00:51:08,387 --> 00:51:09,488
wishes to speak in opposition?

1673
00:51:09,488 --> 00:51:11,488
>> laura?

1674
00:51:12,224 --> 00:51:12,657
>> that's me.

1675
00:51:12,657 --> 00:51:14,260
Hi.

1676
00:51:14,260 --> 00:51:17,260
My name is laura craig.

1677
00:51:17,329 --> 00:51:19,531
I live at 6348 cocoa lane in

1678
00:51:19,531 --> 00:51:21,531
apollo beach.

1679
00:51:22,330 --> 00:51:26,233
And I'm here to voice my concern

1680
00:51:26,305 --> 00:51:27,806
over these major modifications.

1681
00:51:27,806 --> 00:51:29,642
First and foremost you guys talk

1682
00:51:29,642 --> 00:51:31,510
about P.M. And A.M. Traffic.

1683
00:51:31,510 --> 00:51:32,812
Did anybody did these stud ation

1684
00:51:32,812 --> 00:51:35,447
actually live in apailo beach

1685
00:51:35,447 --> 00:51:37,283
and go down the A.M. And P.M.

1686
00:51:37,283 --> 00:51:40,283
Times that they did these

1687
00:51:40,886 --> 00:51:42,886
studies in?

1688
00:51:44,256 --> 00:51:44,823
The schools, the traffic is just

1689
00:51:44,823 --> 00:51:46,492
horrendous.

1690
00:51:46,492 --> 00:51:48,127
Apollo beach boulevard is two

1691
00:51:48,127 --> 00:51:50,429
lanes in, two lanes out.

1692
00:51:50,429 --> 00:51:53,366
You have one car that fits into

1693
00:51:53,366 --> 00:51:54,600
the turning lanes.

1694
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:57,360
There has not been any

1695
00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:58,437
improvement to apollo beach

1696
00:51:58,437 --> 00:51:58,738
boulevard in many, many years.

1697
00:51:58,738 --> 00:52:00,738
There

1698
00:52:03,750 --> 00:52:04,430
there was a 2025 study, proposed

1699
00:52:04,430 --> 00:52:04,543
improvements, they were under

1700
00:52:04,543 --> 00:52:06,378
review.

1701
00:52:06,378 --> 00:52:08,715
one of those being taken one of

1702
00:52:08,715 --> 00:52:10,716
those lanes and putting it into

1703
00:52:10,716 --> 00:52:12,885
a golf cart and bicycle lane so

1704
00:52:12,885 --> 00:52:17,850
that cuts two lanes down to one.

1705
00:52:19,992 --> 00:52:21,427
You want to go and put 237 units

1706
00:52:21,427 --> 00:52:23,329
chroughly you figure two people

1707
00:52:23,329 --> 00:52:23,662
per unit minimum, roughly 500

1708
00:52:23,662 --> 00:52:25,662
people.

1709
00:52:25,865 --> 00:52:26,566
Everybody has a car.

1710
00:52:26,566 --> 00:52:28,566
In and out.

1711
00:52:34,574 --> 00:52:35,574
There is just no, I didn't hear

1712
00:52:35,574 --> 00:52:36,275
anything to go and address the

1713
00:52:36,275 --> 00:52:37,877
infrastructure about this, and

1714
00:52:37,877 --> 00:52:41,477
not to mention the pick-up lines

1715
00:52:42,515 --> 00:52:43,917
that extend down going east on

1716
00:52:43,917 --> 00:52:44,417
apollo beach boulevard to the

1717
00:52:44,417 --> 00:52:45,918
school.

1718
00:52:45,918 --> 00:52:47,587
It extends all the way down

1719
00:52:47,587 --> 00:52:49,755
apollo beach boulevard, and all

1720
00:52:49,755 --> 00:52:51,190
the way down dickman boulevard.

1721
00:52:51,190 --> 00:52:52,625
It's or dickman road.

1722
00:52:52,625 --> 00:52:53,760
It's impossible.

1723
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,620
I'm surprised that there hasn't

1724
00:52:56,620 --> 00:52:58,898
been a major accident as of yet

1725
00:52:58,898 --> 00:53:02,168
or any children being hurt or

1726
00:53:02,168 --> 00:53:05,168
killed by crossing these streets

1727
00:53:05,505 --> 00:53:07,907
because it's a 35-mile per an

1728
00:53:07,907 --> 00:53:09,341
hour zone, people use it for 50,

1729
00:53:09,341 --> 00:53:09,709
60-mile depending on how fast

1730
00:53:09,709 --> 00:53:11,244
they want.

1731
00:53:11,244 --> 00:53:13,580
So that's my issue with traffic.

1732
00:53:13,580 --> 00:53:14,580
It's so close to 41 and apollo

1733
00:53:14,580 --> 00:53:16,580
beach boulevard intersection.

1734
00:53:18,518 --> 00:53:19,219
There's approximately 33 to

1735
00:53:19,219 --> 00:53:21,219
35,000 vehicles that pass

1736
00:53:24,758 --> 00:53:25,258
through that intersection

1737
00:53:25,258 --> 00:53:25,992
already.

1738
00:53:25,992 --> 00:53:26,993
On the other side of 41.

1739
00:53:26,993 --> 00:53:30,593
They already built I don't know

1740
00:53:31,631 --> 00:53:31,998
how many hundreds of apartment

1741
00:53:31,998 --> 00:53:33,733
buildings.

1742
00:53:33,733 --> 00:53:36,133
Thaich already proposed another

1743
00:53:39,973 --> 00:53:42,942
250 apartments on the south side

1744
00:53:42,942 --> 00:53:45,342
of paseo almar and 41.

1745
00:53:45,912 --> 00:53:47,681
And to go and voice evacuation.

1746
00:53:47,681 --> 00:53:50,217
We're in a flood zone.

1747
00:53:50,217 --> 00:53:50,884
We were flooded.

1748
00:53:50,884 --> 00:53:51,984
Two years ago.

1749
00:53:51,984 --> 00:53:52,352
The whole apollo beach

1750
00:53:52,352 --> 00:53:54,352
boulevard.

1751
00:53:54,855 --> 00:53:58,158
how do you plan on getting 30,

1752
00:53:58,158 --> 00:54:00,794
right now as -- it estimated

1753
00:54:00,794 --> 00:54:01,228
about 33,000 people live in

1754
00:54:01,228 --> 00:54:03,228
apollo beach.

1755
00:54:03,363 --> 00:54:05,198
How do you expect to get all of

1756
00:54:05,198 --> 00:54:05,732
these people out in case of an

1757
00:54:05,732 --> 00:54:07,100
emergency?

1758
00:54:07,100 --> 00:54:07,868
There is one way in and one way

1759
00:54:07,868 --> 00:54:09,868
out.

1760
00:54:09,870 --> 00:54:11,710
It's, there is, and there is no

1761
00:54:11,710 --> 00:54:14,410
evacuation plan in any re view.

1762
00:54:14,410 --> 00:54:15,709
There is nothing.

1763
00:54:15,709 --> 00:54:19,309
Nobody, when we sound the siren,

1764
00:54:19,413 --> 00:54:21,648
it's time to go.

1765
00:54:21,648 --> 00:54:22,516
You also have to go and contend

1766
00:54:22,516 --> 00:54:24,916
with the water shortage.

1767
00:54:25,352 --> 00:54:27,154
We're only allowed to go and

1768
00:54:27,154 --> 00:54:29,523
water our grass or plants or

1769
00:54:29,523 --> 00:54:30,657
whatever once a week and you're

1770
00:54:30,657 --> 00:54:33,570
only allowed 15 or 20 minutes

1771
00:54:34,328 --> 00:54:35,295
and now you plan on doing 237

1772
00:54:35,295 --> 00:54:36,230
more people in a five-story

1773
00:54:36,230 --> 00:54:37,931
building which by the way does

1774
00:54:37,931 --> 00:54:38,832
not, is not compatible with

1775
00:54:38,832 --> 00:54:40,601
apollo beach.

1776
00:54:40,601 --> 00:54:43,237
You don't -- there is nothing

1777
00:54:43,237 --> 00:54:45,205
over two stories.

1778
00:54:45,205 --> 00:54:49,405
They are trying to get -- there

1779
00:54:51,779 --> 00:54:53,147
are two other complexes trying

1780
00:54:53,147 --> 00:54:55,916
to -- the waterset complex, the

1781
00:54:55,916 --> 00:54:57,218
one I mentioned, and we're not

1782
00:54:57,218 --> 00:54:58,419
mentioning the hotel, the

1783
00:54:58,419 --> 00:54:59,853
condominiums that they want to

1784
00:54:59,853 --> 00:55:02,853
do on surfside boulevard which

1785
00:55:04,580 --> 00:55:06,160
is another 50 to 55 condominiums

1786
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:07,561
with retail.

1787
00:55:07,561 --> 00:55:08,261
They don't know retail or no

1788
00:55:08,261 --> 00:55:10,661
retail, they haven't decided

1789
00:55:11,464 --> 00:55:12,600
yet.

1790
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:13,734
So between the water shortages,

1791
00:55:13,734 --> 00:55:15,102
the traffic issues, the road is

1792
00:55:15,102 --> 00:55:17,102
in horrible condition.

1793
00:55:17,772 --> 00:55:21,809
I mean, you have to weave and

1794
00:55:21,809 --> 00:55:23,144
dodge potholes, and sinkholes,

1795
00:55:23,144 --> 00:55:27,344
and then they come in and they

1796
00:55:27,882 --> 00:55:28,883
do a shoddy job patching it

1797
00:55:28,883 --> 00:55:30,151
anyway.

1798
00:55:30,151 --> 00:55:30,985
Ask r and this doesn't even

1799
00:55:30,985 --> 00:55:32,190
address the amount of people

1800
00:55:32,190 --> 00:55:33,387
that are going to be -- how many

1801
00:55:33,387 --> 00:55:34,188
kids are going to go going into

1802
00:55:34,188 --> 00:55:36,188
the schools.

1803
00:55:37,458 --> 00:55:38,250
I mean, they're already

1804
00:55:38,250 --> 00:55:39,694
overcrowded.

1805
00:55:39,694 --> 00:55:41,629
We have five schools right

1806
00:55:41,629 --> 00:55:42,129
around us and traffic is just

1807
00:55:42,129 --> 00:55:42,863
insane.

1808
00:55:42,863 --> 00:55:43,998
I don't leave my house until

1809
00:55:43,998 --> 00:55:46,398
after 10:00 in the morning

1810
00:55:47,135 --> 00:55:48,569
because you can't get through.

1811
00:55:48,569 --> 00:55:49,771
And then I make sure I'm home by

1812
00:55:49,771 --> 00:55:52,171
2:00 because the traffic coming

1813
00:55:53,575 --> 00:55:55,610
home from school is crazy.

1814
00:55:55,610 --> 00:55:57,378
And then at 4:00 all the traffic

1815
00:55:57,378 --> 00:55:57,879
coming in from tampa, people

1816
00:55:57,879 --> 00:55:59,879
working.

1817
00:56:02,417 --> 00:56:04,185
The traffic has made this once

1818
00:56:04,185 --> 00:56:05,153
paradise into a nightmare.

1819
00:56:05,153 --> 00:56:05,586
You don't even want to leave

1820
00:56:05,586 --> 00:56:07,586
your house.

1821
00:56:08,422 --> 00:56:12,622
So I don't think that the, what

1822
00:56:13,561 --> 00:56:15,462
the developer or the, these

1823
00:56:15,462 --> 00:56:16,464
kuddies are show -- studies are

1824
00:56:16,464 --> 00:56:19,801
showing is the actual impact of

1825
00:56:19,801 --> 00:56:21,502
what you're try doing here.

1826
00:56:21,502 --> 00:56:22,360
You know, you're sounding like

1827
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:24,360
yore all

1828
00:56:24,672 --> 00:56:25,305
you all live in tampa but how

1829
00:56:25,305 --> 00:56:26,875
about flooding?

1830
00:56:26,875 --> 00:56:27,408
You guys go and deal with

1831
00:56:27,408 --> 00:56:28,542
flooding.

1832
00:56:28,542 --> 00:56:29,978
The pipes over here, they're all

1833
00:56:29,978 --> 00:56:30,511
50 years old plus, they're all

1834
00:56:30,511 --> 00:56:31,780
breaking.

1835
00:56:31,780 --> 00:56:34,982
My road already had three issues

1836
00:56:34,982 --> 00:56:36,685
with pipes bursting.

1837
00:56:36,685 --> 00:56:37,252
So it's just not, it's not

1838
00:56:37,252 --> 00:56:39,252
compatible.

1839
00:56:40,554 --> 00:56:41,756
Again, I'm not just like the

1840
00:56:41,756 --> 00:56:42,757
gentleman before me said, I'm

1841
00:56:42,757 --> 00:56:46,357
not against growth but I am

1842
00:56:48,129 --> 00:56:48,930
against this unbridled

1843
00:56:48,930 --> 00:56:50,930
development, and it's

1844
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:52,434
unfortunate that we live in an

1845
00:56:52,434 --> 00:56:53,335
unincorporated hillsborough

1846
00:56:53,335 --> 00:56:53,802
county because we don't have a

1847
00:56:53,802 --> 00:56:55,269
voice.

1848
00:56:55,269 --> 00:56:55,937
We are the voice.

1849
00:56:55,937 --> 00:56:58,673
And it seems like we're not

1850
00:56:58,673 --> 00:56:58,940
being listened to.

1851
00:56:58,940 --> 00:57:00,940
you

1852
00:57:01,420 --> 00:57:04,545
you know, we moved here for a

1853
00:57:04,545 --> 00:57:06,882
reason, and that reason is being

1854
00:57:06,882 --> 00:57:07,515
eroded so quickly that it makes

1855
00:57:07,515 --> 00:57:08,617
your head spin.

1856
00:57:08,617 --> 00:57:09,818
You know, they have waterset

1857
00:57:09,818 --> 00:57:12,587
that's already gone all the way

1858
00:57:12,587 --> 00:57:14,122
down through 19th street.

1859
00:57:14,122 --> 00:57:14,556
There is no more rural land.

1860
00:57:14,556 --> 00:57:16,910
There is none.

1861
00:57:16,910 --> 00:57:16,992
What used to be tomato farms and

1862
00:57:16,992 --> 00:57:19,392
cattle farms is nothing.

1863
00:57:20,496 --> 00:57:20,996
It's just houses and houses and

1864
00:57:20,996 --> 00:57:22,996
houses.

1865
00:57:29,104 --> 00:57:30,539
So yes, I am, there are high

1866
00:57:30,539 --> 00:57:31,740
density projects with everything

1867
00:57:31,740 --> 00:57:33,750
around and now they approved

1868
00:57:33,750 --> 00:57:35,310
costco and target across the

1869
00:57:35,310 --> 00:57:35,777
street from the high school on

1870
00:57:35,777 --> 00:57:37,512
big bend.

1871
00:57:37,512 --> 00:57:37,880
It's going to be even more of a

1872
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:39,880
nightmare.

1873
00:57:40,281 --> 00:57:41,650
I mean to get up it used to take

1874
00:57:41,650 --> 00:57:43,285
me 15 minutes to get up to 75.

1875
00:57:43,285 --> 00:57:45,721
I'm lucky if I could get up

1876
00:57:45,721 --> 00:57:46,688
there in 35 minutes.

1877
00:57:46,688 --> 00:57:48,688
Do the

1878
00:57:50,692 --> 00:57:54,563
to the highway and then get on

1879
00:57:54,563 --> 00:57:57,563
75 to get up to brandon.

1880
00:57:59,135 --> 00:57:59,568
It's a 10-mile trip, 45 minutes.

1881
00:57:59,568 --> 00:58:00,569
So.

1882
00:58:00,569 --> 00:58:01,537
>> ma'am, let's -- there are a

1883
00:58:01,537 --> 00:58:02,400
few more people that want to

1884
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:02,771
speak.

1885
00:58:02,771 --> 00:58:03,539
>> I know, I'm sorry.

1886
00:58:03,539 --> 00:58:04,906
I'm done.

1887
00:58:04,906 --> 00:58:06,741
I'm done, yes, I just hone that

1888
00:58:06,741 --> 00:58:09,141
these developers give, there's

1889
00:58:09,511 --> 00:58:13,111
no thought to the quality of

1890
00:58:13,381 --> 00:58:14,350
life, and I respectfully ask for

1891
00:58:14,350 --> 00:58:14,850
this major modification to be

1892
00:58:14,850 --> 00:58:15,217
denied.

1893
00:58:15,217 --> 00:58:15,718
Thank you.

1894
00:58:15,718 --> 00:58:16,318
>> all right.

1895
00:58:16,318 --> 00:58:18,318
Thank yo, ma'am.

1896
00:58:18,754 --> 00:58:22,354
Okay, next person that wishes to

1897
00:58:22,625 --> 00:58:23,359
speak in opposition.

1898
00:58:23,359 --> 00:58:24,693
>> lynne banks.

1899
00:58:24,693 --> 00:58:26,280
>> hello, can you hear me?

1900
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:28,663
>> yes, hi, my name is

1901
00:58:28,663 --> 00:58:31,500
lynnebanks and I live at 102 st. George court.

1902
00:58:31,500 --> 00:58:33,502
Back in APRIL I put together a

1903
00:58:33,502 --> 00:58:36,500
petition as a member of the over

1904
00:58:36,500 --> 00:58:38,500
500 unit caribbean isles

1905
00:58:38,306 --> 00:58:38,774
waterfront mobile home community

1906
00:58:38,774 --> 00:58:40,774
co-op.

1907
00:58:40,876 --> 00:58:42,979
I want to express our

1908
00:58:42,979 --> 00:58:44,180
significant concern and oppose

1909
00:58:44,180 --> 00:58:44,947
the construction of this huge

1910
00:58:44,947 --> 00:58:47,347
apartment building and the

1911
00:58:47,483 --> 00:58:48,383
reasons are as follows.

1912
00:58:48,383 --> 00:58:51,383
Number 1 I want to completely

1913
00:58:53,456 --> 00:58:55,456
support the documentation

1914
00:58:56,926 --> 00:58:57,927
ubmitted by brad ahlgren his

1915
00:58:57,927 --> 00:59:00,563
analysis of the entire process

1916
00:59:00,563 --> 00:59:01,898
is absolutelyright

1917
00:59:01,898 --> 00:59:03,898
absolutelyright on.

1918
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:06,200
Number two, the problem at

1919
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:08,237
caribbean ieltz rr is water

1920
00:59:08,237 --> 00:59:09,872
runoff and our canals are

1921
00:59:09,872 --> 00:59:11,808
filling up with silt and other

1922
00:59:11,808 --> 00:59:12,741
items causing our canals to be

1923
00:59:12,741 --> 00:59:13,176
overrun with silt and filling

1924
00:59:13,176 --> 00:59:13,976
in.

1925
00:59:13,976 --> 00:59:14,844
Our community spent almost a

1926
00:59:14,844 --> 00:59:17,780
million dollars in the las

1927
00:59:17,780 --> 00:59:20,383
couple of years dredging the

1928
00:59:20,383 --> 00:59:21,651
community that has been touted

1929
00:59:21,651 --> 00:59:22,184
as a waterfront boating

1930
00:59:22,184 --> 00:59:23,860
community.

1931
00:59:23,860 --> 00:59:25,860
Many people can

1932
00:59:25,722 --> 00:59:27,390
cannot even get

1933
00:59:27,390 --> 00:59:29,726
their boats off the lifts let

1934
00:59:29,726 --> 00:59:30,760
alone navigate to tampa bay to

1935
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:31,127
enjoy the wonderful environment

1936
00:59:31,127 --> 00:59:32,610
we have.

1937
00:59:32,610 --> 00:59:32,962
Number one concern would be to

1938
00:59:32,962 --> 00:59:34,998
ask the developer if he is

1939
00:59:34,998 --> 00:59:36,399
willing to put up a million

1940
00:59:36,399 --> 00:59:37,767
dollar surety bond to address

1941
00:59:37,767 --> 00:59:39,200
all damages and issues that MAY

1942
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:41,304
affect the caribbean isles

1943
00:59:41,304 --> 00:59:42,539
mobile home community and the

1944
00:59:42,539 --> 00:59:46,420
future if this plan should go

1945
00:59:46,420 --> 00:59:47,177
through.

1946
00:59:47,177 --> 00:59:47,577
I think this is certainly

1947
00:59:47,577 --> 00:59:48,311
reasonable.

1948
00:59:48,311 --> 00:59:48,645
If there is no damage, there is

1949
00:59:48,645 --> 00:59:49,379
no cost.

1950
00:59:49,379 --> 00:59:50,790
If there is damage we would like

1951
00:59:50,790 --> 00:59:51,581
to be compensated for the

1952
00:59:51,581 --> 00:59:54,451
ability to use our canals that

1953
00:59:54,451 --> 00:59:58,510
we purchased over the last 40 to

1954
00:59:58,754 --> 01:00:00,754
50 years.

1955
01:00:00,991 --> 01:00:01,858
Secondly as a retired law

1956
01:00:01,858 --> 01:00:03,293
enforcement officer having

1957
01:00:03,293 --> 01:00:04,226
watched everything going up and

1958
01:00:04,226 --> 01:00:05,495
down apollo beach boulevard, I

1959
01:00:05,495 --> 01:00:07,263
am appalled that the traffic

1960
01:00:07,263 --> 01:00:08,198
study was number one,

1961
01:00:08,198 --> 01:00:11,198
inaccurate, and number two, it

1962
01:00:12,135 --> 01:00:13,569
hasn't been significantly and

1963
01:00:13,569 --> 01:00:15,569
adequately documented or

1964
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:19,376
finalized as to the amount of

1965
01:00:19,376 --> 01:00:21,178
traffic problems that could be

1966
01:00:21,178 --> 01:00:21,511
if this apartment building goes

1967
01:00:21,511 --> 01:00:22,379
through.

1968
01:00:22,379 --> 01:00:23,613
There is no ability to put in

1969
01:00:23,613 --> 01:00:25,810
left turn lanes, right turn

1970
01:00:25,810 --> 01:00:26,516
lanes, there is no ability for

1971
01:00:26,516 --> 01:00:27,284
traffic to get across apollo

1972
01:00:27,284 --> 01:00:29,119
beach boulevard to go north and

1973
01:00:29,119 --> 01:00:31,188
south, and what the developer is

1974
01:00:31,188 --> 01:00:33,188
proposing is absolutely

1975
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:35,659
ridiculous from a staff

1976
01:00:35,659 --> 01:00:37,260
perspective.

1977
01:00:37,260 --> 01:00:37,961
You can't ask trucks, fire

1978
01:00:37,961 --> 01:00:38,896
department engines, or

1979
01:00:38,896 --> 01:00:41,298
ambulances or anything else to

1980
01:00:41,298 --> 01:00:42,599
make u-turns at the south end of

1981
01:00:42,599 --> 01:00:43,734
the north end of this building

1982
01:00:43,734 --> 01:00:44,340
so that's not going to work for

1983
01:00:44,340 --> 01:00:46,340
them.

1984
01:00:46,902 --> 01:00:50,774
Plus we also had a golf cart

1985
01:00:50,774 --> 01:00:52,342
fatality at the road apollo

1986
01:00:52,342 --> 01:00:54,110
beach -- where curib crn

1987
01:00:54,110 --> 01:00:55,379
caribbean isles

1988
01:00:55,379 --> 01:00:56,580
gets off apollo beach biewbd

1989
01:00:56,580 --> 01:00:59,580
tat was never documented, that

1990
01:01:00,317 --> 01:01:01,218
was in DECEMBER of 2024.

1991
01:01:01,218 --> 01:01:01,784
So I think the traffic study

1992
01:01:01,784 --> 01:01:03,720
needs to be done.

1993
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:06,189
I also think that we are in

1994
01:01:06,189 --> 01:01:07,900
agreement that a final traffic

1995
01:01:07,900 --> 01:01:09,393
study from hillsborough county

1996
01:01:09,393 --> 01:01:11,950
as to what the plan is for

1997
01:01:11,950 --> 01:01:11,205
apollo beach boulevard from the

1998
01:01:11,205 --> 01:01:13,205
-

1999
01:01:13,864 --> 01:01:15,732
bay all the way to highway 41.

2000
01:01:15,732 --> 01:01:18,132
It's absolutely ooze i

2001
01:01:18,302 --> 01:01:19,403
-- as I can

2002
01:01:19,403 --> 01:01:20,237
only imagine as everybody agrees

2003
01:01:20,237 --> 01:01:22,237
is a nightmare.

2004
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:24,441
Nobody would want to drive on

2005
01:01:24,441 --> 01:01:25,342
that.

2006
01:01:25,342 --> 01:01:28,942
Thirdly the height is not cub

2007
01:01:30,948 --> 01:01:31,515
forming to the 50-foot

2008
01:01:31,515 --> 01:01:32,416
guidelines.

2009
01:01:32,416 --> 01:01:35,553
A 65-foot building I will be

2010
01:01:35,553 --> 01:01:37,555
able to change the televisions

2011
01:01:37,555 --> 01:01:39,890
with my remote control to the

2012
01:01:39,890 --> 01:01:40,324
people that live on the third,

2013
01:01:40,324 --> 01:01:41,910
fourth, and fifth building if

2014
01:01:41,910 --> 01:01:42,960
this should go through.

2015
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:44,895
What irritates us to no end is

2016
01:01:44,895 --> 01:01:46,297
that because the zoning

2017
01:01:46,297 --> 01:01:48,697
purpose -- notification purposes

2018
01:01:49,767 --> 01:01:51,100
are only 350 feet, you MISS

2019
01:01:51,100 --> 01:01:52,636
Notifying caribbean isles

2020
01:01:52,636 --> 01:01:55,360
community by about 125 feet.

2021
01:01:55,172 --> 01:01:56,407
Which we consider completely

2022
01:01:56,407 --> 01:01:57,408
unfair and actually kind of

2023
01:01:57,408 --> 01:01:59,343
disappointing because it sounds

2024
01:01:59,343 --> 01:02:02,813
like the developer was trying to

2025
01:02:02,813 --> 01:02:03,947
hide from us.

2026
01:02:03,947 --> 01:02:05,749
So the heighth is awful.

2027
01:02:05,749 --> 01:02:06,851
There are no other four or

2028
01:02:06,851 --> 01:02:08,252
five-story buildings west o

2029
01:02:08,252 --> 01:02:10,988
highway 41, and what's going on

2030
01:02:10,988 --> 01:02:14,250
east of highway 41 is already at

2031
01:02:14,250 --> 01:02:16,600
a 40% or more vacancy.

2032
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:16,594
They are not filling these

2033
01:02:16,594 --> 01:02:18,594
buildings up.

2034
01:02:19,363 --> 01:02:20,798
Nobody can afford them.

2035
01:02:20,798 --> 01:02:24,398
Lastly, as was pointed out in

2036
01:02:26,103 --> 01:02:27,104
the documentation from

2037
01:02:27,104 --> 01:02:28,600
MR. Ahlgren, the sewer and water

2038
01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:28,339
issues going to be a huge

2039
01:02:28,339 --> 01:02:30,339
concern.

2040
01:02:30,608 --> 01:02:31,809
The wastewater is not able to be

2041
01:02:31,809 --> 01:02:32,176
handled right now with what is

2042
01:02:32,176 --> 01:02:33,578
in place.

2043
01:02:33,578 --> 01:02:34,812
You start building more of these

2044
01:02:34,812 --> 01:02:37,348
buildings without having a plan

2045
01:02:37,348 --> 01:02:37,815
in place, who's going to pay for

2046
01:02:37,815 --> 01:02:39,350
that?

2047
01:02:39,350 --> 01:02:41,252
That's going to have to come out

2048
01:02:41,252 --> 01:02:42,200
of taxes someplace.

2049
01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:43,870
There is absolutely no way

2050
01:02:43,870 --> 01:02:44,489
you're going to put in a new

2051
01:02:44,489 --> 01:02:46,691
water treatment plant without

2052
01:02:46,691 --> 01:02:47,892
costing everybody in appallee

2053
01:02:47,892 --> 01:02:49,892
beach

2054
01:02:50,695 --> 01:02:50,995
appalleeobeach an exorbitant amount of

2055
01:02:50,995 --> 01:02:52,995
money.

2056
01:02:53,898 --> 01:02:55,133
So with that said I'm going to

2057
01:02:55,133 --> 01:02:55,666
defer my time to anybody else

2058
01:02:55,666 --> 01:02:57,435
that wants to speak.

2059
01:02:57,435 --> 01:02:59,304
Just remember we have over 500

2060
01:02:59,304 --> 01:03:01,773
people in our community, and 350

2061
01:03:01,773 --> 01:03:03,141
of them signed a petition

2062
01:03:03,141 --> 01:03:03,708
against and opposing this

2063
01:03:03,708 --> 01:03:05,610
development.

2064
01:03:05,610 --> 01:03:06,477
Please stick to the rules and

2065
01:03:06,477 --> 01:03:08,120
the regulations that have been

2066
01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:08,513
written and that have been

2067
01:03:08,513 --> 01:03:10,448
planned.

2068
01:03:10,448 --> 01:03:11,416
Major modifications don't need

2069
01:03:11,416 --> 01:03:13,510
to be addressed right now.

2070
01:03:13,510 --> 01:03:14,619
I think that's just totally

2071
01:03:14,619 --> 01:03:15,520
unheard of.

2072
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:16,386
Thank you for your time.

2073
01:03:16,386 --> 01:03:18,156
>> okay, thank you, ma'am.

2074
01:03:18,156 --> 01:03:18,656
All right, about out of 15

2075
01:03:18,656 --> 01:03:19,591
minutes.

2076
01:03:19,591 --> 01:03:23,191
How many more people wish to

2077
01:03:23,695 --> 01:03:25,130
speak in opposition?

2078
01:03:25,130 --> 01:03:28,130
I see one, two, people.

2079
01:03:28,633 --> 01:03:29,660
Three?

2080
01:03:29,660 --> 01:03:31,660
Okay.

2081
01:03:31,169 --> 01:03:33,371
I'm going to grant --

2082
01:03:33,371 --> 01:03:33,938
>> there are people in the

2083
01:03:33,938 --> 01:03:34,873
audience as well.

2084
01:03:34,873 --> 01:03:35,373
>> and there are people in the

2085
01:03:35,373 --> 01:03:35,874
audience.

2086
01:03:35,874 --> 01:03:36,841
Raise your hands.

2087
01:03:36,841 --> 01:03:38,509
I got two people if

2088
01:03:38,509 --> 01:03:39,977
in the audience

2089
01:03:39,977 --> 01:03:42,977
as well, so that's five.

2090
01:03:44,783 --> 01:03:46,551
Grant five more minutes.

2091
01:03:46,551 --> 01:03:48,190
That please keep that in mind.

2092
01:03:48,190 --> 01:03:51,190
That's a minute per person

2093
01:03:52,791 --> 01:03:53,291
unless you have a designated

2094
01:03:53,291 --> 01:03:55,291
speaker.

2095
01:03:56,361 --> 01:03:57,896
Next speaker, please.

2096
01:03:57,896 --> 01:03:59,197
>> mary lavry.

2097
01:03:59,197 --> 01:04:01,433
>> 123 st. Martins way in

2098
01:04:01,433 --> 01:04:04,433
appallee beach, and I'm speaking

2099
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:07,239
then in opposition to this.

2100
01:04:07,239 --> 01:04:09,475
My concerns are with the

2101
01:04:09,475 --> 01:04:11,676
existing traffic and the

2102
01:04:11,676 --> 01:04:13,345
intensity as lynne banks had

2103
01:04:13,345 --> 01:04:16,945
stated that there was a death

2104
01:04:17,382 --> 01:04:18,250
from our community tat was not

2105
01:04:18,250 --> 01:04:18,984
documented in the -- that was

2106
01:04:18,984 --> 01:04:19,284
not documented in the traffic

2107
01:04:19,284 --> 01:04:21,284
study.

2108
01:04:23,722 --> 01:04:24,723
I also want to talk about the

2109
01:04:24,723 --> 01:04:26,723
237 unit dri.

2110
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:29,161
Thank you for acknowledging that

2111
01:04:29,161 --> 01:04:30,528
there are still questions with

2112
01:04:30,528 --> 01:04:34,128
that exchange because it did not

2113
01:04:36,702 --> 01:04:37,536
make sense to me.

2114
01:04:37,536 --> 01:04:39,536
, 435,000 square feet being

2115
01:04:42,775 --> 01:04:44,909
changed into 310,000 square feet

2116
01:04:44,909 --> 01:04:45,878
so that was a shortage of

2117
01:04:45,878 --> 01:04:47,878
275,000 square feet.

2118
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:51,650
It did not make sense the math

2119
01:04:51,650 --> 01:04:55,220
did nt make sense to me.

2120
01:04:55,220 --> 01:04:55,821
Speaking about the height and

2121
01:04:55,821 --> 01:04:57,756
compatibility.

2122
01:04:57,756 --> 01:04:59,291
We in apollo beach really only

2123
01:04:59,291 --> 01:05:01,691
have two-story buildings so

2124
01:05:03,295 --> 01:05:04,630
having this now go to four story

2125
01:05:04,630 --> 01:05:05,464
buildings,

2126
01:05:05,464 --> 01:05:06,332
, that's definitely not

2127
01:05:06,332 --> 01:05:08,332
compatible.

2128
01:05:10,668 --> 01:05:11,770
We probably need to have ayes on eyes on

2129
01:05:11,770 --> 01:05:13,505
whether than paperwork submitted

2130
01:05:13,505 --> 01:05:14,707
to say yes, it's curppatible.

2131
01:05:14,707 --> 01:05:16,709
There is also concern for

2132
01:05:16,709 --> 01:05:19,109
drainage and the environmental.

2133
01:05:20,813 --> 01:05:22,215
As lynne also spoke about, we

2134
01:05:22,215 --> 01:05:25,317
are in a canal community, and

2135
01:05:25,317 --> 01:05:27,717
those canals are significantly

2136
01:05:28,821 --> 01:05:32,421
impacting our way of life, and

2137
01:05:33,693 --> 01:05:36,996
there is also then concern about

2138
01:05:36,996 --> 01:05:39,398
the coastal evacuation that has

2139
01:05:39,398 --> 01:05:41,467
not been addressed soy where, so I would

2140
01:05:41,467 --> 01:05:43,102
request the board that the

2141
01:05:43,102 --> 01:05:45,102
transportation access changes

2142
01:05:50,420 --> 01:05:53,420
have not really been resolved.

2143
01:05:53,412 --> 01:05:55,812
The 237 unit dri entitlement

2144
01:05:56,649 --> 01:05:58,384
exchange remains deficient.

2145
01:05:58,384 --> 01:05:59,719
The transportation staff

2146
01:05:59,719 --> 01:06:00,219
concerns are -- continues to

2147
01:06:00,219 --> 01:06:02,880
object.

2148
01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:04,257
And there is specific questions

2149
01:06:04,257 --> 01:06:06,657
regarding the intensity, the

2150
01:06:11,798 --> 01:06:12,799
drainage and community,

2151
01:06:12,799 --> 01:06:13,733
cumulative impacts.

2152
01:06:13,733 --> 01:06:16,133
Transportation impacts have not

2153
01:06:16,536 --> 01:06:17,937
been answered fully and for

2154
01:06:17,937 --> 01:06:18,938
these reasons I respectfully ask

2155
01:06:18,938 --> 01:06:19,939
the board not to approve.

2156
01:06:19,939 --> 01:06:22,339
>> okay, thank you, ma'am.

2157
01:06:26,546 --> 01:06:27,279
Next person, please.

2158
01:06:27,279 --> 01:06:27,580
>> michelle read.

2159
01:06:27,580 --> 01:06:29,580
Thank

2160
01:06:31,170 --> 01:06:32,850
reed, thank you verymuch.

2161
01:06:32,850 --> 01:06:32,652
Can you hear me.

2162
01:06:32,652 --> 01:06:33,453
>> yes.

2163
01:06:33,453 --> 01:06:34,320
>> the traffic is a problem.

2164
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:35,888
I come out

2165
01:06:35,888 --> 01:06:36,690
out of our small

2166
01:06:36,690 --> 01:06:38,325
community on gulf and sea and

2167
01:06:38,325 --> 01:06:38,858
there are no adequate turnoffs

2168
01:06:38,858 --> 01:06:39,759
anywhere.

2169
01:06:39,759 --> 01:06:43,280
It is very dangerous to cross

2170
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:43,830
from the south side of apollo

2171
01:06:43,830 --> 01:06:45,831
beach boulevard to the north

2172
01:06:45,831 --> 01:06:46,700
side in any u-turn fashion and

2173
01:06:46,700 --> 01:06:48,468
vice versa.

2174
01:06:48,468 --> 01:06:49,903
It is just extremely dangerous

2175
01:06:49,903 --> 01:06:50,370
and you just wait and wait and

2176
01:06:50,370 --> 01:06:51,270
wait.

2177
01:06:51,270 --> 01:06:56,700
I would like to give the rest of

2178
01:06:59,312 --> 01:07:00,947
my time to MR. Ahlgren to speak

2179
01:07:00,947 --> 01:07:02,849
to the six points.

2180
01:07:02,849 --> 01:07:03,517
>> can you please give your

2181
01:07:03,517 --> 01:07:05,351
address.

2182
01:07:05,351 --> 01:07:06,385
>> 423 island cay way, apollo

2183
01:07:06,385 --> 01:07:08,385
beach.

2184
01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:16,560
>> okay, next person, please.

2185
01:07:16,596 --> 01:07:17,664
>> mauro vitone and I believe

2186
01:07:17,664 --> 01:07:21,264
besides him we had two more

2187
01:07:21,734 --> 01:07:24,134
people signed up online.

2188
01:07:25,972 --> 01:07:26,873
>> hi, mario vittone.

2189
01:07:26,873 --> 01:07:28,642
We're the lght industrial

2190
01:07:28,642 --> 01:07:29,876
building to the north of the

2191
01:07:29,876 --> 01:07:31,745
property, and with nine acres.

2192
01:07:31,745 --> 01:07:33,745
I need 30 seconds.

2193
01:07:35,549 --> 01:07:38,351
Our concern is just the impact.

2194
01:07:38,351 --> 01:07:41,588
All we want to do with our land

2195
01:07:41,588 --> 01:07:44,891
is develop it as the pd says to

2196
01:07:44,891 --> 01:07:48,491
develop it, just with more, we

2197
01:07:48,495 --> 01:07:49,829
want to put about 20 more light

2198
01:07:49,829 --> 01:07:51,497
units for the people of apollo

2199
01:07:51,497 --> 01:07:53,660
beach to work in apollo beach.

2200
01:07:53,660 --> 01:07:54,668
We're just looking to put up

2201
01:07:54,668 --> 01:07:56,469
some places that small

2202
01:07:56,469 --> 01:07:59,469
businesses can open up there.

2203
01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:02,543
So our concern is that we'll --

2204
01:08:02,543 --> 01:08:03,576
if this development will impact

2205
01:08:03,576 --> 01:08:04,578
the amount of square footage we

2206
01:08:04,578 --> 01:08:05,512
have left when it comes time for

2207
01:08:05,512 --> 01:08:06,280
us to develop our land.

2208
01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:07,814
That's it.

2209
01:08:07,814 --> 01:08:11,318
And so it's not really -- I'm

2210
01:08:11,318 --> 01:08:12,886
not for or against the property.

2211
01:08:12,886 --> 01:08:13,787
Mostly because we moved out of

2212
01:08:13,787 --> 01:08:15,155
apollo beach because of traffic,

2213
01:08:15,155 --> 01:08:17,910
so we escaped it but it sounds

2214
01:08:17,910 --> 01:08:18,525
like a valid complaint but for

2215
01:08:18,525 --> 01:08:21,262
us, my concern is just what it

2216
01:08:21,262 --> 01:08:23,397
does to the, ours, chis the last

2217
01:08:23,397 --> 01:08:24,640
remaining land to be developed.

2218
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:25,499
R in

2219
01:08:25,499 --> 01:08:26,660
in the zone.

2220
01:08:26,660 --> 01:08:26,633
Thanks very much.

2221
01:08:26,633 --> 01:08:28,633
>> thank you, sir.

2222
01:08:30,537 --> 01:08:33,537
All right, next person, please.

2223
01:08:35,376 --> 01:08:37,376
>> rick french.

2224
01:08:46,654 --> 01:08:49,540
Rick, are you there?

2225
01:08:50,391 --> 01:08:50,991
>> rick, are you there?

2226
01:08:50,991 --> 01:08:52,991
>> hello?

2227
01:08:53,940 --> 01:08:53,795
Hello?

2228
01:08:53,795 --> 01:08:54,629
>> hello, rick.

2229
01:08:54,629 --> 01:08:55,796
>> well, if you don't mind, I'm

2230
01:08:55,796 --> 01:08:57,298
going to put him on hold, there

2231
01:08:57,298 --> 01:08:58,866
are a couple of people in the

2232
01:08:58,866 --> 01:08:59,800
audience that raised their hand.

2233
01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:01,800
I wanted

2234
01:09:02,690 --> 01:09:02,637
that wanted to speak in

2235
01:09:02,637 --> 01:09:03,237
opposition.

2236
01:09:03,237 --> 01:09:06,237
If you could please come

2237
01:09:07,541 --> 01:09:08,142
forward.

2238
01:09:08,142 --> 01:09:08,676
Good evening.

2239
01:09:08,676 --> 01:09:09,310
>> good evening.

2240
01:09:09,310 --> 01:09:10,445
Thank you.

2241
01:09:10,445 --> 01:09:13,445
My name is robert dauby.

2242
01:09:14,148 --> 01:09:14,949
I live at 1407 jupawno loop,

2243
01:09:14,949 --> 01:09:16,949
apollo beach.

2244
01:09:17,850 --> 01:09:19,530
I moved to florida.

2245
01:09:19,530 --> 01:09:21,589
It'll be five years in JANUARY

2246
01:09:21,589 --> 01:09:23,570
because california turned into a

2247
01:09:23,570 --> 01:09:26,570
ses pit of certain things.

2248
01:09:28,329 --> 01:09:29,797
In areas of crime and the

2249
01:09:29,797 --> 01:09:30,765
whatnot hoping florida was a

2250
01:09:30,765 --> 01:09:33,765
little different than it is.

2251
01:09:34,669 --> 01:09:36,237
it's a terrific state except

2252
01:09:36,237 --> 01:09:39,640
this, I am all for live local

2253
01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:40,507
thing nat is nice but the

2254
01:09:40,507 --> 01:09:42,143
section 8 housing and there are

2255
01:09:42,143 --> 01:09:45,380
a lot of vouchers in california

2256
01:09:45,380 --> 01:09:46,781
and those crime rates do ego up

2257
01:09:46,781 --> 01:09:48,416
and has not been addressed yet.

2258
01:09:48,416 --> 01:09:49,584
Crime rates go up in those areas

2259
01:09:49,584 --> 01:09:51,219
unless there is a real good

2260
01:09:51,219 --> 01:09:51,653
screening of people that come

2261
01:09:51,653 --> 01:09:52,487
in.

2262
01:09:52,487 --> 01:09:52,887
I have experienced, I have a

2263
01:09:52,887 --> 01:09:54,887
7-year-old.

2264
01:09:57,158 --> 01:09:58,526
The traffic is, is out -- it's

2265
01:09:58,526 --> 01:09:59,661
crazy.

2266
01:09:59,661 --> 01:10:01,620
I've seen it increase since I

2267
01:10:01,620 --> 01:10:02,830
first got here five years ago.

2268
01:10:02,830 --> 01:10:04,650
It's just increased and as they

2269
01:10:04,650 --> 01:10:06,234
said there are the costcos,

2270
01:10:06,234 --> 01:10:07,569
there's this, the wal-mart,

2271
01:10:07,569 --> 01:10:08,470
they're building up like crazy.

2272
01:10:08,470 --> 01:10:09,805
There are homes all over the

2273
01:10:09,805 --> 01:10:11,306
place, and there is, you know to

2274
01:10:11,306 --> 01:10:11,773
put this here in apollo beach,

2275
01:10:11,773 --> 01:10:13,375
it'll

2276
01:10:13,375 --> 01:10:15,343
it'll hurt land values and if

2277
01:10:15,343 --> 01:10:16,244
that happens, I think then

2278
01:10:16,244 --> 01:10:19,244
developers that are putting this

2279
01:10:19,481 --> 01:10:20,480
kind of thing in should be held

2280
01:10:20,480 --> 01:10:20,448
responsible.

2281
01:10:20,448 --> 01:10:20,815
>> okay.

2282
01:10:20,815 --> 01:10:21,316
Thank you.

2283
01:10:21,316 --> 01:10:21,883
>> all right.

2284
01:10:21,883 --> 01:10:23,883
>> thank you, sir.

2285
01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:26,787
All right, one last speaker.

2286
01:10:26,787 --> 01:10:27,689
Sir, can I get you to sign in?

2287
01:10:27,689 --> 01:10:29,689
>> oh, sorry.

2288
01:10:31,590 --> 01:10:32,160
>> get the last speaker here.

2289
01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:34,160
Because time's up.

2290
01:10:35,964 --> 01:10:36,430
>> I live at 6510 dolphin cove

2291
01:10:36,430 --> 01:10:37,199
drive.

2292
01:10:37,199 --> 01:10:39,234
There are a lot of reasons to

2293
01:10:39,234 --> 01:10:40,402
not approve this, major

2294
01:10:40,402 --> 01:10:41,470
modification, I think we heard

2295
01:10:41,470 --> 01:10:44,573
them here this evening, there is

2296
01:10:44,573 --> 01:10:46,141
a lot of stuff with the traffic

2297
01:10:46,141 --> 01:10:47,709
counts that you know like I hope

2298
01:10:47,709 --> 01:10:48,844
everybody realizes the inbound

2299
01:10:48,844 --> 01:10:50,120
and outbound traffic is based

2300
01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:51,747
probably on the 237 units but

2301
01:10:51,747 --> 01:10:52,413
there is also a low income

2302
01:10:52,413 --> 01:10:54,383
apartment building that was

2303
01:10:54,383 --> 01:10:55,817
already approved that no one

2304
01:10:55,817 --> 01:10:57,819
could stop right beside this

2305
01:10:57,819 --> 01:10:58,352
current one that's up for

2306
01:10:58,352 --> 01:10:58,954
approval.

2307
01:10:58,954 --> 01:11:00,122
In addition to that, we

2308
01:11:00,122 --> 01:11:01,690
obviously heard that the

2309
01:11:01,690 --> 01:11:03,391
traffic's awful but that traffic

2310
01:11:03,391 --> 01:11:05,995
signal right there at 41 and

2311
01:11:05,995 --> 01:11:07,629
boulevard to substandard, it

2312
01:11:07,629 --> 01:11:08,430
cannot handle the traffic that

2313
01:11:08,430 --> 01:11:09,998
goes there currently.

2314
01:11:09,998 --> 01:11:11,533
It was originally designed for a

2315
01:11:11,533 --> 01:11:12,670
t intersection now it's a

2316
01:11:12,670 --> 01:11:12,901
four-way.

2317
01:11:12,901 --> 01:11:14,570
It was also the county is

2318
01:11:14,570 --> 01:11:15,436
getting ready to approve

2319
01:11:15,436 --> 01:11:17,338
administrative variance for

2320
01:11:17,338 --> 01:11:19,775
median spacing, the boulevard is

2321
01:11:19,775 --> 01:11:20,576
substandard as it is.

2322
01:11:20,576 --> 01:11:21,376
So I don't know why we would go

2323
01:11:21,376 --> 01:11:22,344
approve a variance.

2324
01:11:22,344 --> 01:11:23,545
In addition the county is also

2325
01:11:23,545 --> 01:11:26,347
going to approve a design

2326
01:11:26,347 --> 01:11:27,649
exception but the rode is --

2327
01:11:27,649 --> 01:11:28,817
road is substandardo even if you

2328
01:11:28,817 --> 01:11:29,451
acquire more right-of-way or get

2329
01:11:29,451 --> 01:11:31,553
more right-of-way to put a

2330
01:11:31,553 --> 01:11:32,655
shared use path in there, it's

2331
01:11:32,655 --> 01:11:34,230
still, there are no other shared

2332
01:11:34,230 --> 01:11:34,923
use paths there so why are we

2333
01:11:34,923 --> 01:11:35,758
jumping through hoops to approve

2334
01:11:35,758 --> 01:11:38,158
somebody that -- approve

2335
01:11:39,295 --> 01:11:40,280
something that nobody wants.

2336
01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:40,596
>> okay, I'm done.

2337
01:11:40,596 --> 01:11:42,596
>> thank you, sir.

2338
01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:45,340
All right, with that,

2339
01:11:45,340 --> 01:11:47,340
development services staff,

2340
01:11:49,700 --> 01:11:51,700
anything further?

2341
01:11:51,440 --> 01:11:52,307
>> nothing further.

2342
01:11:52,307 --> 01:11:54,707
Nope, transportation is saying

2343
01:11:57,512 --> 01:11:59,512
no as well.

2344
01:12:02,785 --> 01:12:03,319
>> applicant has opportunity for

2345
01:12:03,319 --> 01:12:04,620
rebuttal.

2346
01:12:04,620 --> 01:12:05,955
>> evening hearing mast, lots to

2347
01:12:05,955 --> 01:12:07,560
cover in five minutes.

2348
01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:09,158
Don't want to be late with

2349
01:12:09,158 --> 01:12:10,392
homework so MR. Henry is going

2350
01:12:10,392 --> 01:12:13,992
to talk about the assignment you

2351
01:12:19,835 --> 01:12:21,737
gave him, and then I'll be back.

2352
01:12:21,737 --> 01:12:24,807
>> we looked at the P.M. Peak

2353
01:12:24,807 --> 01:12:26,609
hour, and so as MR. Ratliff

2354
01:12:26,609 --> 01:12:27,910
ratliff had

2355
01:12:27,910 --> 01:12:30,146
indicated we were looking at

2356
01:12:30,146 --> 01:12:31,581
inbound and outbound so in this

2357
01:12:31,581 --> 01:12:33,490
case the A.M. Peak hour, the

2358
01:12:33,490 --> 01:12:36,490
apartments on top which match

2359
01:12:36,786 --> 01:12:39,722
MR. Ratliff's table, is 57 cars.

2360
01:12:39,722 --> 01:12:40,290
So that's the inbound for the

2361
01:12:40,290 --> 01:12:42,290
apartments.

2362
01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:46,362
So we compare that to the retail

2363
01:12:46,362 --> 01:12:48,762
trips and for 36,000 square

2364
01:12:49,532 --> 01:12:51,567
feet, it's about 57 trips

2365
01:12:51,567 --> 01:12:52,101
inbound in the P.M. And about 60

2366
01:12:52,101 --> 01:12:54,101
outbound.

2367
01:12:54,203 --> 01:12:55,738
So that's how you get that

2368
01:12:55,738 --> 01:12:56,439
equivalency based on the actual

2369
01:12:56,439 --> 01:12:57,907
trip generation.

2370
01:12:57,907 --> 01:12:59,208
So now again, when you look at

2371
01:12:59,208 --> 01:13:00,443
A.M., that's where the

2372
01:13:00,443 --> 01:13:01,344
difference is because of the

2373
01:13:01,344 --> 01:13:03,446
trip generation and A.M.

2374
01:13:03,446 --> 01:13:04,881
But this gives you what that is

2375
01:13:04,881 --> 01:13:05,581
for the P.M. Which we believe is

2376
01:13:05,581 --> 01:13:07,581
the appropriate --

2377
01:13:07,617 --> 01:13:09,520
>> as far as you know,

2378
01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:11,520
development services,

2379
01:13:13,523 --> 01:13:14,457
transportation staff, do not,

2380
01:13:14,457 --> 01:13:16,125
they are going to argue with you

2381
01:13:16,125 --> 01:13:17,861
about the P.M. Peam

2382
01:13:17,861 --> 01:13:19,296
peak hour.

2383
01:13:19,296 --> 01:13:21,970
>> it's they are going to agree

2384
01:13:21,970 --> 01:13:24,970
with the numbers, it's a

2385
01:13:24,300 --> 01:13:24,801
question of whether you do A.M.

2386
01:13:24,801 --> 01:13:26,801
Or P.M.?

2387
01:13:26,803 --> 01:13:28,938
>> you agree on the numbers?

2388
01:13:28,938 --> 01:13:30,306
>> on trip generation, when he

2389
01:13:30,306 --> 01:13:32,908
did his table, he did worst

2390
01:13:32,908 --> 01:13:33,476
case, which was the outbound in

2391
01:13:33,476 --> 01:13:35,476
the A.M.

2392
01:13:35,845 --> 01:13:39,445
>> all right, so I got it.

2393
01:13:44,487 --> 01:13:46,222
>> thank you.

2394
01:13:46,222 --> 01:13:47,123
>> close briefly, in 1979 the

2395
01:13:47,123 --> 01:13:47,958
county commission adopt

2396
01:13:47,958 --> 01:13:49,592
addevelopment plan for this

2397
01:13:49,592 --> 01:13:51,592
area, and that

2398
01:13:52,295 --> 01:13:53,597
preceded a lott of the

2399
01:13:53,597 --> 01:13:54,364
externalities of growth you

2400
01:13:54,364 --> 01:13:56,364
heard about.

2401
01:13:57,234 --> 01:13:58,502
you hear about it every time

2402
01:13:58,502 --> 01:13:59,200
you're on this side of the

2403
01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:01,200
podium.

2404
01:14:02,506 --> 01:14:04,474
-- how much growth we've had.

2405
01:14:04,474 --> 01:14:05,675
And some other infrastructure

2406
01:14:05,675 --> 01:14:07,100
shortages we have had.

2407
01:14:07,100 --> 01:14:07,811
This is popular to note but it's

2408
01:14:07,811 --> 01:14:09,120
through developments of any kind

2409
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:10,312
that new rev nigh comes into the

2410
01:14:10,312 --> 01:14:11,848
county, and it's the new

2411
01:14:11,848 --> 01:14:12,382
buildings that fill the

2412
01:14:12,382 --> 01:14:14,382
potholes.

2413
01:14:14,585 --> 01:14:15,180
That's just math, that's how it

2414
01:14:15,180 --> 01:14:16,320
is.

2415
01:14:16,320 --> 01:14:17,854
The comprehensive plan, one of

2416
01:14:17,854 --> 01:14:19,923
the folks in opposition,

2417
01:14:19,923 --> 01:14:21,225
mentioned that the comprehensive

2418
01:14:21,225 --> 01:14:22,759
plan imposes some type of

2419
01:14:22,759 --> 01:14:23,727
ceiling on the density that

2420
01:14:23,727 --> 01:14:25,195
we're piercing.

2421
01:14:25,195 --> 01:14:27,598
This is a vested development

2422
01:14:27,598 --> 01:14:29,433
order that goes back to 1979.

2423
01:14:29,433 --> 01:14:31,301
And the trips and the uses that

2424
01:14:31,301 --> 01:14:32,235
are attended to that are vested

2425
01:14:32,235 --> 01:14:32,603
rights that run with the

2426
01:14:32,603 --> 01:14:33,904
property.

2427
01:14:33,904 --> 01:14:36,904
And again, what we're really

2428
01:14:38,308 --> 01:14:38,842
talking about is how those r are

2429
01:14:38,842 --> 01:14:39,676
exchanged.

2430
01:14:39,676 --> 01:14:41,110
We believe to be true to the

2431
01:14:41,110 --> 01:14:43,547
text it aligns with our

2432
01:14:43,547 --> 01:14:45,649
interpretation and our proposed

2433
01:14:45,649 --> 01:14:46,984
conversion that that is the most

2434
01:14:46,984 --> 01:14:48,185
legally defensible, strict

2435
01:14:48,185 --> 01:14:51,355
reading of the way the text as

2436
01:14:51,355 --> 01:14:52,222
it is and as it's been since

2437
01:14:52,222 --> 01:14:52,989
1979 and appreciate your

2438
01:14:52,989 --> 01:14:54,291
patience tonight.

2439
01:14:54,291 --> 01:14:54,792
I have nothing further.

2440
01:14:54,792 --> 01:14:55,759
Thanks.

2441
01:14:55,759 --> 01:14:56,226
>> thank you, sir.

2442
01:14:56,226 --> 01:14:57,895
Okay.

2443
01:14:57,895 --> 01:14:58,462
With that, that concludes this

2444
01:14:58,462 --> 01:14:59,296
application.

2445
01:14:59,296 --> 01:15:01,198
MS. Heinrich, we're ready for

2446
01:15:01,198 --> 01:15:02,900
the next case.

2447
01:15:02,900 --> 01:15:05,900
>> our next application is item

2448
01:15:06,103 --> 01:15:08,103
d.2, pd 26-0363.

2449
01:15:08,172 --> 01:15:11,172
The applicant is requesting to

2450
01:15:11,275 --> 01:15:12,810
rezone property from pd 1373 to

2451
01:15:12,810 --> 01:15:14,810
planned development.

2452
01:15:16,313 --> 01:15:17,314
I've viewed this for development

2453
01:15:17,314 --> 01:15:18,949
services and will provide staff

2454
01:15:18,949 --> 01:15:19,549
findings after the applicant's

2455
01:15:19,549 --> 01:15:21,549
presentation.

2456
01:15:31,295 --> 01:15:32,296
>>> okay, the applicant, please.

2457
01:15:32,296 --> 01:15:34,165
>> good evening, hearing

2458
01:15:34,165 --> 01:15:36,232
officer, staff members, todd

2459
01:15:36,232 --> 01:15:38,232
pressman, 200 second avenue

2460
01:15:38,369 --> 01:15:39,300
south, number 451 in

2461
01:15:39,300 --> 01:15:41,300
st. Petersburg.

2462
01:15:43,708 --> 01:15:46,708
This r intrrks pd 26-0363.

2463
01:15:47,745 --> 01:15:48,646
Planning commission finds

2464
01:15:48,646 --> 01:15:49,130
consistent, development services

2465
01:15:49,130 --> 01:15:50,181
supports.

2466
01:15:50,181 --> 01:15:51,849
There are no agency objections.

2467
01:15:51,849 --> 01:15:53,251
We are located in the seffner

2468
01:15:53,251 --> 01:15:54,986
mango area, 4.11 acres.

2469
01:15:54,986 --> 01:15:57,288
You can see that we're close to

2470
01:15:57,288 --> 01:16:00,288
I-75 and mlk, JR. Boulevard.

2471
01:16:01,759 --> 01:16:04,759
We're located on lakewood drive

2472
01:16:05,329 --> 01:16:06,330
abutting south end jim john lane

2473
01:16:06,330 --> 01:16:06,830
as shown by the property

2474
01:16:06,830 --> 01:16:08,830
appraiser.

2475
01:16:08,833 --> 01:16:10,680
So the issue is the pd for 14

2476
01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:11,969
single-family homes.

2477
01:16:11,969 --> 01:16:14,969
It was previously approved for

2478
01:16:15,273 --> 01:16:17,475
four to six single-family homes.

2479
01:16:17,475 --> 01:16:19,343
This is the proposed pd again

2480
01:16:19,343 --> 01:16:20,945
for 14 single-family homes.

2481
01:16:20,945 --> 01:16:25,160
It is being removed out of a

2482
01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:28,586
much larger pd, a companion prs

2483
01:16:28,586 --> 01:16:30,586
is filed.

2484
01:16:31,422 --> 01:16:33,191
And the existing pd is primarily

2485
01:16:33,191 --> 01:16:35,191
mobile home community.

2486
01:16:35,527 --> 01:16:38,730
This is being removed for the

2487
01:16:38,730 --> 01:16:40,730
single-family as indicated.

2488
01:16:43,301 --> 01:16:45,236
And that larger pd is a 425 unit

2489
01:16:45,236 --> 01:16:46,771
mobile home community.

2490
01:16:46,771 --> 01:16:49,441
Zoning is really sort of a mix

2491
01:16:49,441 --> 01:16:51,841
on the residential side.

2492
01:16:52,243 --> 01:16:55,513
You see rsc-6, you see as-1, a

2493
01:16:55,513 --> 01:16:59,713
lot of PDs, it is a variable

2494
01:16:59,918 --> 01:17:01,853
residential area but primarily

2495
01:17:01,853 --> 01:17:03,154
almost exclusively residential.

2496
01:17:03,154 --> 01:17:04,322
This is just to show you an

2497
01:17:04,322 --> 01:17:05,223
aerial to the side you can see

2498
01:17:05,223 --> 01:17:07,223
the scrairious

2499
01:17:07,359 --> 01:17:09,759
various types of residential

2500
01:17:10,929 --> 01:17:11,530
from mobile homes to

2501
01:17:11,530 --> 01:17:12,297
single-family.

2502
01:17:12,297 --> 01:17:13,198
Planning commission does note

2503
01:17:13,198 --> 01:17:14,266
we're compatible.

2504
01:17:14,266 --> 01:17:16,368
Could be consider for

2505
01:17:16,368 --> 01:17:18,170
considered for up to

2506
01:17:18,170 --> 01:17:20,271
three to six dwelling units and

2507
01:17:20,271 --> 01:17:21,706
they note the intent supports

2508
01:17:21,706 --> 01:17:22,474
goal 2 of the seffner mango

2509
01:17:22,474 --> 01:17:23,674
community plan.

2510
01:17:23,674 --> 01:17:26,440
Development services note while

2511
01:17:26,440 --> 01:17:26,945
it's located residential area

2512
01:17:26,945 --> 01:17:28,945
featuring single-family detached

2513
01:17:28,980 --> 01:17:29,781
mobile home park uses,

2514
01:17:29,781 --> 01:17:31,781
single-family residential,

2515
01:17:32,685 --> 01:17:33,318
again, a nice mix of different

2516
01:17:33,318 --> 01:17:35,870
various types.

2517
01:17:35,870 --> 01:17:37,623
The proposed density is one of

2518
01:17:37,623 --> 01:17:41,223
the maximum in the rs9 future

2519
01:17:42,728 --> 01:17:43,862
land use category.

2520
01:17:43,862 --> 01:17:45,998
Hearing officer, I will tell you

2521
01:17:45,998 --> 01:17:46,298
we sent out 26 notices two

2522
01:17:46,298 --> 01:17:48,298
times.

2523
01:17:49,670 --> 01:17:49,534
There are two letters in the

2524
01:17:49,534 --> 01:17:51,534
file.

2525
01:17:53,172 --> 01:17:54,606
One has to do with referring to

2526
01:17:54,606 --> 01:17:55,808
clear road improvements or

2527
01:17:55,808 --> 01:17:57,643
traffic study would make safety,

2528
01:17:57,643 --> 01:17:59,845
and would make safety and

2529
01:17:59,845 --> 01:18:00,813
congestion worse.

2530
01:18:00,813 --> 01:18:02,813
The county transportation

2531
01:18:04,160 --> 01:18:04,583
department does indicate no

2532
01:18:04,583 --> 01:18:06,485
objections.

2533
01:18:06,485 --> 01:18:07,486
And our transportation expert is

2534
01:18:07,486 --> 01:18:09,486
here.

2535
01:18:11,323 --> 01:18:12,457
The other letter has to do with

2536
01:18:12,457 --> 01:18:13,659
no infrastructure being

2537
01:18:13,659 --> 01:18:16,590
considered when of course

2538
01:18:16,628 --> 01:18:17,896
infrastructure is considered for

2539
01:18:17,896 --> 01:18:19,896
the location.

2540
01:18:21,400 --> 01:18:23,469
And concerned about lakewood

2541
01:18:23,469 --> 01:18:26,370
only having two lanes and there

2542
01:18:26,370 --> 01:18:27,172
are trees that should not be cut

2543
01:18:27,172 --> 01:18:28,730
down, but of course as a

2544
01:18:28,730 --> 01:18:30,576
standard, that's not an issue at

2545
01:18:30,576 --> 01:18:32,760
the moment, and that's an issue

2546
01:18:32,760 --> 01:18:32,945
of course that would have to go

2547
01:18:32,945 --> 01:18:33,846
through quite a few departments

2548
01:18:33,846 --> 01:18:35,181
and approvals as it would come

2549
01:18:35,181 --> 01:18:37,581
in for site plan.

2550
01:18:38,284 --> 01:18:39,452
So with that, if you have any

2551
01:18:39,452 --> 01:18:42,452
questions or concerns, I'd be

2552
01:18:46,991 --> 01:18:48,427
happy to answer them.

2553
01:18:48,427 --> 01:18:49,628
Jason, jason, are you here?

2554
01:18:49,628 --> 01:18:52,598
Do you want to make any comments

2555
01:18:52,598 --> 01:18:54,998
if you feel necessary?

2556
01:18:55,201 --> 01:18:55,768
If you would allow.

2557
01:18:55,768 --> 01:18:57,436
>> sure.

2558
01:18:57,436 --> 01:18:59,836
>> good evening: thank you.

2559
01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:01,541
My name is jason rinard.

2560
01:19:01,541 --> 01:19:02,508
I'm 3242 henderson boulevard,

2561
01:19:02,508 --> 01:19:04,430
tampa, florida.

2562
01:19:04,430 --> 01:19:05,678
I'm a landscape architect with

2563
01:19:05,678 --> 01:19:07,747
the group that's looked at this

2564
01:19:07,747 --> 01:19:08,648
from the civil and

2565
01:19:08,648 --> 01:19:10,648
transportation components.

2566
01:19:11,116 --> 01:19:12,418
We just wanted to kind of

2567
01:19:12,418 --> 01:19:12,885
reiterate what todd just talked

2568
01:19:12,885 --> 01:19:14,287
about.

2569
01:19:14,287 --> 01:19:16,889
We are going to have to

2570
01:19:16,889 --> 01:19:18,156
obviously moving forward if this

2571
01:19:18,156 --> 01:19:19,425
is approved we will move forward

2572
01:19:19,425 --> 01:19:20,660
working with, you know,

2573
01:19:20,660 --> 01:19:22,862
requirements of land development

2574
01:19:22,862 --> 01:19:23,963
code in terms of the trees.

2575
01:19:23,963 --> 01:19:25,640
We understand we would certainly

2576
01:19:25,640 --> 01:19:27,133
have to do an arborist report to

2577
01:19:27,133 --> 01:19:28,501
determine if there are grand

2578
01:19:28,501 --> 01:19:29,402
trees along lakewood drive and

2579
01:19:29,402 --> 01:19:31,838
certainly any impacts we would

2580
01:19:31,838 --> 01:19:32,338
have to address as part of that

2581
01:19:32,338 --> 01:19:33,639
process.

2582
01:19:33,639 --> 01:19:35,375
So we

2583
01:19:35,375 --> 01:19:36,709
we fully support we would

2584
01:19:36,709 --> 01:19:37,476
have to meet that criteria.

2585
01:19:37,476 --> 01:19:38,110
>> okay, very good.

2586
01:19:38,110 --> 01:19:40,110
Thank you, sir.

2587
01:19:41,480 --> 01:19:41,780
Please sign in.

2588
01:19:41,780 --> 01:19:43,780
Okay.

2589
01:19:44,250 --> 01:19:46,219
All right, MR. Pressman, that

2590
01:19:46,219 --> 01:19:47,530
conclude your presentation?

2591
01:19:47,530 --> 01:19:49,256
>> yes, sir, thank you.

2592
01:19:49,256 --> 01:19:49,621
>> all right, thank you.

2593
01:19:49,621 --> 01:19:51,621
All right.

2594
01:19:51,657 --> 01:19:52,292
Development services staff.

2595
01:19:52,292 --> 01:19:54,260
>> michelle heinrich,

2596
01:19:54,260 --> 01:19:56,260
development services.

2597
01:19:57,397 --> 01:19:58,297
Staff reviewed a 4.11-acre

2598
01:19:58,297 --> 01:20:00,650
parcel located on the west side

2599
01:20:00,650 --> 01:20:01,400
of lakewood drive south of clay

2600
01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:02,401
pit road.

2601
01:20:02,401 --> 01:20:05,271
the subject site is located

2602
01:20:05,271 --> 01:20:06,205
within the res 9 future land use

2603
01:20:06,205 --> 01:20:09,205
category and within the urban

2604
01:20:09,542 --> 01:20:11,477
service area.

2605
01:20:11,477 --> 01:20:14,314
The subject parcel is parcel b

2606
01:20:14,314 --> 01:20:16,282
within pd 18-1373.

2607
01:20:16,282 --> 01:20:17,550
And parcel a as you heard from

2608
01:20:17,550 --> 01:20:20,550
applicant, the remainder part of

2609
01:20:21,554 --> 01:20:25,154
this pd, is approved for a 425

2610
01:20:25,392 --> 01:20:26,960
space mobile home park.

2611
01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:28,728
Parcel b alone is permitted for

2612
01:20:28,728 --> 01:20:31,128
four single-family lots, which

2613
01:20:31,965 --> 01:20:32,499
can be subdivided or left on one

2614
01:20:32,499 --> 01:20:34,499
parcel.

2615
01:20:34,501 --> 01:20:38,101
To recognize the removal of this

2616
01:20:38,905 --> 01:20:41,408
parcel from pd 18-1373, the

2617
01:20:41,408 --> 01:20:42,420
applicant has filed a companion

2618
01:20:42,420 --> 01:20:43,577
prs application.

2619
01:20:43,577 --> 01:20:45,312
The site is located within area

2620
01:20:45,312 --> 01:20:47,280
developed with single-family

2621
01:20:47,280 --> 01:20:48,715
detached residential, and mobile

2622
01:20:48,715 --> 01:20:52,315
home park uses, all within the

2623
01:20:52,652 --> 01:20:54,354
res 9 future land use category.

2624
01:20:54,354 --> 01:20:55,880
The applicant's request is for

2625
01:20:55,880 --> 01:20:57,880
14 single-family lots resulting

2626
01:20:57,657 --> 01:20:58,592
in a density of 3.4 units per

2627
01:20:58,592 --> 01:20:59,426
acre.

2628
01:20:59,426 --> 01:21:01,426
Proposed development standards

2629
01:21:01,762 --> 01:21:02,763
are comparable to the rsc-9

2630
01:21:02,763 --> 01:21:03,864
standard zoning district.

2631
01:21:03,864 --> 01:21:05,766
Staff received no objections

2632
01:21:05,766 --> 01:21:07,134
from reviewing agencies, and

2633
01:21:07,134 --> 01:21:08,535
finds the request supportable

2634
01:21:08,535 --> 01:21:10,935
subject to proposed conditions

2635
01:21:11,437 --> 01:21:13,437
of approval.

2636
01:21:14,441 --> 01:21:18,410
>> just for the record, how big

2637
01:21:19,880 --> 01:21:23,851
was the parent pd that this is

2638
01:21:23,851 --> 01:21:25,652
being sort of taken away from?

2639
01:21:25,652 --> 01:21:29,252
>> for that one idon't know how

2640
01:21:29,523 --> 01:21:32,158
large the original pd is.

2641
01:21:32,158 --> 01:21:33,494
It is just visually when I've

2642
01:21:33,494 --> 01:21:35,829
looked at that site plan it is

2643
01:21:35,829 --> 01:21:36,964
quite large, takes up almost a

2644
01:21:36,964 --> 01:21:38,165
city block.

2645
01:21:38,165 --> 01:21:40,165
>> yeah.

2646
01:21:43,403 --> 01:21:45,238
And it's has approval for 400

2647
01:21:45,238 --> 01:21:45,673
and something mobile home park

2648
01:21:45,673 --> 01:21:46,272
spaces.

2649
01:21:46,272 --> 01:21:47,141
>> mm-hmm.

2650
01:21:47,141 --> 01:21:49,541
>> is density calculated the

2651
01:21:53,580 --> 01:21:54,810
same way for mobile home park

2652
01:21:54,810 --> 01:21:54,682
spaces?

2653
01:21:54,682 --> 01:21:56,682
>> it is.

2654
01:21:57,317 --> 01:22:00,917
>> so there is no issue with

2655
01:22:01,489 --> 01:22:03,591
this track contributing to thick the

2656
01:22:03,591 --> 01:22:06,591
acreage needed to maintain the

2657
01:22:07,628 --> 01:22:08,162
425 face mobile home park?

2658
01:22:08,162 --> 01:22:08,395
>> no.

2659
01:22:08,395 --> 01:22:09,563
In

2660
01:22:09,563 --> 01:22:10,564
.

2661
01:22:10,564 --> 01:22:12,466
>> okay, so thootsler

2662
01:22:12,466 --> 01:22:13,400
that's not an issue.

2663
01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:14,402
>> correct, not an issue.

2664
01:22:14,402 --> 01:22:15,836
>> all right, planning

2665
01:22:15,836 --> 01:22:16,836
commission staff.

2666
01:22:16,836 --> 01:22:17,338
>> lilyann linehan, planning

2667
01:22:17,338 --> 01:22:18,472
commission staff.

2668
01:22:18,472 --> 01:22:19,340
Subject property is within the

2669
01:22:19,340 --> 01:22:20,541
residential 9 future land use

2670
01:22:20,541 --> 01:22:21,409
category, and in the urban

2671
01:22:21,409 --> 01:22:22,410
service area, and within the

2672
01:22:22,410 --> 01:22:25,346
limits of the seffner mango

2673
01:22:25,346 --> 01:22:26,380
community plan.

2674
01:22:26,380 --> 01:22:27,648
Objective 1.1 of future land use

2675
01:22:27,648 --> 01:22:29,617
section directs 80% of the

2676
01:22:29,617 --> 01:22:31,886
county's anticipated growth into

2677
01:22:31,886 --> 01:22:33,870
the urban service area, flu's

2678
01:22:33,870 --> 01:22:34,121
policy 3.1.3 requires that new

2679
01:22:34,121 --> 01:22:35,523
development be compatible with

2680
01:22:35,523 --> 01:22:36,556
the surrounding uses, and

2681
01:22:36,556 --> 01:22:38,226
recognizes that compatibility

2682
01:22:38,226 --> 01:22:39,861
does not mean the same as but

2683
01:22:39,861 --> 01:22:40,761
refers to the sensitivity of the

2684
01:22:40,761 --> 01:22:41,762
development proposals and

2685
01:22:41,762 --> 01:22:43,531
preserving the character of

2686
01:22:43,531 --> 01:22:45,466
existing development.

2687
01:22:45,466 --> 01:22:47,466
And additionally objective 4.4

2688
01:22:48,603 --> 01:22:49,971
and policy 4.4.1 require new

2689
01:22:49,971 --> 01:22:50,738
development to be compatible

2690
01:22:50,738 --> 01:22:51,339
with the surrounding

2691
01:22:51,339 --> 01:22:52,840
neighborhood.

2692
01:22:52,840 --> 01:22:54,909
In this case, single-family two

2693
01:22:54,909 --> 01:22:56,100
two-family and multifamily uses

2694
01:22:56,100 --> 01:22:56,845
are present in the immediate

2695
01:22:56,845 --> 01:22:57,878
vicinity of the site and the

2696
01:22:57,878 --> 01:22:59,814
existing land use pattern

2697
01:22:59,814 --> 01:23:00,682
establishes a predominantly

2698
01:23:00,682 --> 01:23:01,683
residential context that

2699
01:23:01,683 --> 01:23:02,250
supports the proposed

2700
01:23:02,250 --> 01:23:03,685
development.

2701
01:23:03,685 --> 01:23:05,720
the intent of the residential 9

2702
01:23:05,720 --> 01:23:08,355
category is to recognize low to

2703
01:23:08,355 --> 01:23:09,924
medium density residential uses

2704
01:23:09,924 --> 01:23:10,792
and residential 9 future land

2705
01:23:10,792 --> 01:23:13,270
use surrounds the subject site

2706
01:23:13,270 --> 01:23:14,262
to the north, south, and east,

2707
01:23:14,262 --> 01:23:16,564
while residential 12 and urban

2708
01:23:16,564 --> 01:23:18,366
mixed use 20 is to the west.

2709
01:23:18,366 --> 01:23:19,901
The request is to allow 14 units

2710
01:23:19,901 --> 01:23:21,369
and is consistent with the uses

2711
01:23:21,369 --> 01:23:22,937
allowed under the residential 9

2712
01:23:22,937 --> 01:23:25,273
future land use category, and

2713
01:23:25,273 --> 01:23:26,474
therefore, is consistent with

2714
01:23:26,474 --> 01:23:28,443
future land use section goal 2

2715
01:23:28,443 --> 01:23:29,377
and objective 2.1.

2716
01:23:29,377 --> 01:23:31,460
Additionally the request

2717
01:23:31,460 --> 01:23:32,714
supports the intent of goal 2 of

2718
01:23:32,714 --> 01:23:34,249
the seffner mango community plan

2719
01:23:34,249 --> 01:23:36,585
and its associated strategies,

2720
01:23:36,585 --> 01:23:37,886
by providing additional housing

2721
01:23:37,886 --> 01:23:39,220
opportunities while maintaining

2722
01:23:39,220 --> 01:23:40,522
compatibility with the character

2723
01:23:40,522 --> 01:23:41,756
and development pattern of the

2724
01:23:41,756 --> 01:23:43,756
surrounding area.

2725
01:23:43,792 --> 01:23:44,793
Based upon the above

2726
01:23:44,793 --> 01:23:46,461
considerations and the following

2727
01:23:46,461 --> 01:23:47,829
goals, objectives, and policies,

2728
01:23:47,829 --> 01:23:48,930
planning commission staff finds

2729
01:23:48,930 --> 01:23:49,631
the proposed planned development

2730
01:23:49,631 --> 01:23:50,432
consistent with the

2731
01:23:50,432 --> 01:23:52,267
unincorporated hillsborough

2732
01:23:52,267 --> 01:23:53,602
county comprehensive plan

2733
01:23:53,602 --> 01:23:54,369
subject to the conditions

2734
01:23:54,369 --> 01:23:55,350
proposed by the hillsborough

2735
01:23:55,350 --> 01:23:56,371
county development services

2736
01:23:56,371 --> 01:23:56,938
department.

2737
01:23:56,938 --> 01:23:58,240
>> okay.

2738
01:23:58,240 --> 01:24:00,240
Thank you.

2739
01:24:00,976 --> 01:24:02,611
At this point in time, is there

2740
01:24:02,611 --> 01:24:03,311
anyone in the audience that

2741
01:24:03,311 --> 01:24:04,946
wishes to speak in support of

2742
01:24:04,946 --> 01:24:06,946
the application?

2743
01:24:06,948 --> 01:24:08,216
No one responding, anyone in the

2744
01:24:08,216 --> 01:24:11,216
audience wish to speak in

2745
01:24:12,587 --> 01:24:14,589
opposition to the application?

2746
01:24:14,589 --> 01:24:16,910
Seeing no one responding, staff,

2747
01:24:16,910 --> 01:24:18,600
anything further?

2748
01:24:18,600 --> 01:24:19,361
>> no, sir.

2749
01:24:19,361 --> 01:24:19,895
>> applicant, opportunity for

2750
01:24:19,895 --> 01:24:20,595
rebuttal.

2751
01:24:20,595 --> 01:24:21,563
>> we're good, thank you.

2752
01:24:21,563 --> 01:24:22,997
>> very good.

2753
01:24:22,997 --> 01:24:25,330
All right, with that, that

2754
01:24:25,330 --> 01:24:25,934
concludes this application.

2755
01:24:25,934 --> 01:24:26,602
MS. Heinrich, we're ready for

2756
01:24:26,602 --> 01:24:28,602
the next case.

2757
01:24:31,139 --> 01:24:31,639
>> our next item is item d.3, pd

2758
01:24:31,639 --> 01:24:33,208
26-0445.

2759
01:24:33,208 --> 01:24:35,277
The applicant is requesting to

2760
01:24:35,277 --> 01:24:37,913
rezone property from cg to

2761
01:24:37,913 --> 01:24:39,913
planned development.

2762
01:24:40,615 --> 01:24:43,150
Tangia chapela with development

2763
01:24:43,510 --> 01:24:44,520
services has reviewed this and

2764
01:24:44,520 --> 01:24:46,452
will present staff's findings

2765
01:24:47,222 --> 01:24:48,230
after applicant's presentation.

2766
01:24:48,230 --> 01:24:50,230
>> applicant, penalize.

2767
01:24:53,128 --> 01:24:55,528
>> good evening hearing officer.

2768
01:24:56,799 --> 01:24:57,900
-- this is pd 26-0445.

2769
01:24:57,900 --> 01:24:59,900
Planning commission finds

2770
01:24:59,968 --> 01:25:00,502
consistent, meets the locational

2771
01:25:00,502 --> 01:25:02,502
criteria.

2772
01:25:05,307 --> 01:25:08,811
It reduces the average trips by

2773
01:25:08,811 --> 01:25:11,513
3,438, reduces the A.M. Peaks

2774
01:25:11,513 --> 01:25:13,148
tremendously, 256, 234

2775
01:25:13,148 --> 01:25:14,160
respectively, no objections by

2776
01:25:14,160 --> 01:25:15,885
seven agencies.

2777
01:25:15,885 --> 01:25:19,550
We are in the general town 'n'

2778
01:25:19,550 --> 01:25:21,550
country area,.55 acres.

2779
01:25:24,627 --> 01:25:26,594
The issue is cg to pd to

2780
01:25:26,594 --> 01:25:27,897
specifically allow 11,979 square

2781
01:25:27,897 --> 01:25:30,297
feet of professional services,

2782
01:25:30,699 --> 01:25:32,699
health practitioners, officer,

2783
01:25:33,135 --> 01:25:35,135
medccialtion dental, laboratory,

2784
01:25:35,237 --> 01:25:37,540
medical offices, clinical with

2785
01:25:37,540 --> 01:25:38,107
emergency services scheduled by

2786
01:25:38,107 --> 01:25:40,900
physicians.

2787
01:25:40,900 --> 01:25:41,177
The floor would be open area for

2788
01:25:41,177 --> 01:25:42,378
permitted uses so we're located

2789
01:25:42,378 --> 01:25:44,880
on west waters avenue as you can

2790
01:25:44,880 --> 01:25:46,880
see here.

2791
01:25:46,882 --> 01:25:48,651
Per property appraiser.

2792
01:25:48,651 --> 01:25:49,819
Surrounding uses are shopping

2793
01:25:49,819 --> 01:25:51,821
center across the street,

2794
01:25:51,821 --> 01:25:53,356
shopping center to the west,

2795
01:25:53,356 --> 01:25:56,192
apartments, which are located to

2796
01:25:56,192 --> 01:25:58,661
the east and to the south.

2797
01:25:58,661 --> 01:25:59,562
This is a close aerial that you

2798
01:25:59,562 --> 01:26:00,229
can see in regard to the

2799
01:26:00,229 --> 01:26:01,531
apartments and the shopping

2800
01:26:01,531 --> 01:26:03,531
center next door.

2801
01:26:07,303 --> 01:26:09,906
the site is currently vacant.

2802
01:26:09,906 --> 01:26:10,773
Waters avenue carries

2803
01:26:10,773 --> 01:26:12,773
approximately 47,500 vehicles

2804
01:26:12,842 --> 01:26:13,409
per day, very intensive arterial

2805
01:26:13,409 --> 01:26:15,409
roadway.

2806
01:26:16,913 --> 01:26:19,582
So again the issue is for more

2807
01:26:19,582 --> 01:26:21,384
or less business professional

2808
01:26:21,384 --> 01:26:22,719
offices, which is a down zoning

2809
01:26:22,719 --> 01:26:25,719
from the commercial general that

2810
01:26:27,123 --> 01:26:28,858
it is now, and that is the main

2811
01:26:28,858 --> 01:26:30,693
direction, the main issue here

2812
01:26:30,693 --> 01:26:31,361
is a significant down zoning of

2813
01:26:31,361 --> 01:26:33,361
the uses.

2814
01:26:35,331 --> 01:26:37,867
So looking at the pd plan on

2815
01:26:37,867 --> 01:26:39,135
waters avenue, I've outlined the

2816
01:26:39,135 --> 01:26:41,535
building footprint as proposed.

2817
01:26:46,900 --> 01:26:47,544
We're showing a 15-foot building

2818
01:26:47,544 --> 01:26:49,813
setback -- on the east to the

2819
01:26:49,813 --> 01:26:52,150
rear of the apartments are

2820
01:26:52,150 --> 01:26:54,150
significantly further back,

2821
01:26:55,518 --> 01:26:56,719
75 feet, going back to the

2822
01:26:56,719 --> 01:27:00,919
aerial as you can see there's a

2823
01:27:01,357 --> 01:27:03,930
lot of separation to the south.

2824
01:27:03,930 --> 01:27:06,629
>> okay if you could just to

2825
01:27:06,629 --> 01:27:08,431
clarify for me the building

2826
01:27:08,431 --> 01:27:10,200
footprint is sort of a darker

2827
01:27:10,200 --> 01:27:10,767
solid black line?

2828
01:27:10,767 --> 01:27:12,767
>> yes.

2829
01:27:13,603 --> 01:27:15,105
>> and that building location is

2830
01:27:15,105 --> 01:27:17,173
closest to waters avenue?

2831
01:27:17,173 --> 01:27:17,741
>> yes.

2832
01:27:17,741 --> 01:27:19,741
>> okay.

2833
01:27:19,910 --> 01:27:23,510
And if you don't mind, regarding

2834
01:27:24,414 --> 01:27:25,581
the just to clarify, the office

2835
01:27:25,581 --> 01:27:26,490
space, is there parking below

2836
01:27:26,490 --> 01:27:28,490
the building?

2837
01:27:29,252 --> 01:27:30,253
>> parking would be below, yes,

2838
01:27:30,253 --> 01:27:32,121
below the building and some

2839
01:27:32,121 --> 01:27:34,324
would be to the rear.

2840
01:27:34,324 --> 01:27:36,259
As you note there is a note on

2841
01:27:36,259 --> 01:27:36,759
the conceptual plan for the

2842
01:27:36,759 --> 01:27:37,661
parking.

2843
01:27:37,661 --> 01:27:39,290
>> so there is parking below and

2844
01:27:39,290 --> 01:27:39,496
there are two floors of office

2845
01:27:39,496 --> 01:27:40,564
space?

2846
01:27:40,564 --> 01:27:41,531
>> three floors -- well,

2847
01:27:41,531 --> 01:27:43,233
proposed three floors of office

2848
01:27:43,233 --> 01:27:45,801
space, and then a fourth which

2849
01:27:45,801 --> 01:27:47,471
is really an open.

2850
01:27:47,471 --> 01:27:49,739
>> okay so three floors of

2851
01:27:49,739 --> 01:27:51,508
office space and that fourth

2852
01:27:51,508 --> 01:27:51,942
floor is gathering spot of some

2853
01:27:51,942 --> 01:27:52,576
kind.

2854
01:27:52,576 --> 01:27:53,343
>> is it what?

2855
01:27:53,343 --> 01:27:53,910
>> gathering spot.

2856
01:27:53,910 --> 01:27:54,545
>> yep.

2857
01:27:54,545 --> 01:27:56,545
>> of some kind.

2858
01:27:57,180 --> 01:27:57,748
>> yep.

2859
01:27:57,748 --> 01:27:58,582
>> okay.

2860
01:27:58,582 --> 01:28:00,551
>> okay and so the height

2861
01:28:00,551 --> 01:28:02,551
proposed is 48 feet.

2862
01:28:03,387 --> 01:28:05,787
So does that work?

2863
01:28:07,356 --> 01:28:08,826
>> we know it's a tight site,

2864
01:28:08,826 --> 01:28:10,394
and we know asb

2865
01:28:10,394 --> 01:28:11,929
as weave

2866
01:28:11,929 --> 01:28:12,863
we've gone

2867
01:28:12,863 --> 01:28:14,197
through the process there have

2868
01:28:14,197 --> 01:28:15,399
been a lot of issues to go

2869
01:28:15,399 --> 01:28:16,600
through and we know there is

2870
01:28:16,600 --> 01:28:17,100
going to be some nipping and

2871
01:28:17,100 --> 01:28:18,669
tucking.

2872
01:28:18,669 --> 01:28:20,669
Putting some paper

2873
01:28:21,538 --> 01:28:23,674
pencil to paper for

2874
01:28:23,674 --> 01:28:24,141
site planning it is going to be

2875
01:28:24,141 --> 01:28:25,176
tight.

2876
01:28:25,176 --> 01:28:27,978
Whether that's all going to be

2877
01:28:27,978 --> 01:28:28,712
able to fit into a site, we're

2878
01:28:28,712 --> 01:28:30,712
going to see.

2879
01:28:31,215 --> 01:28:31,815
>> okay, got it.

2880
01:28:31,815 --> 01:28:32,316
>> continue?

2881
01:28:32,316 --> 01:28:34,316
>> go on, yes.

2882
01:28:34,518 --> 01:28:36,921
>> so zoning as I've indicated

2883
01:28:36,921 --> 01:28:38,921
is kcg.

2884
01:28:40,825 --> 01:28:43,160
Cg and cn is predominant.

2885
01:28:43,160 --> 01:28:44,428
Rn16 for multifamily is for the

2886
01:28:44,428 --> 01:28:46,130
east and for the south.

2887
01:28:46,130 --> 01:28:48,766
That corridor is an intensive

2888
01:28:48,766 --> 01:28:50,501
corridor with CGs and CNs

2889
01:28:50,501 --> 01:28:51,936
along waters avenue.

2890
01:28:51,936 --> 01:28:54,710
Future land use is, 12

2891
01:28:54,710 --> 01:28:56,710
r12 which

2892
01:28:57,241 --> 01:29:00,440
allows commercial uses -- p is

2893
01:29:00,440 --> 01:29:01,879
down zoning.

2894
01:29:01,879 --> 01:29:03,279
Development service note --

2895
01:29:03,279 --> 01:29:05,583
permitted in the cg zoning

2896
01:29:05,583 --> 01:29:07,583
category.

2897
01:29:08,520 --> 01:29:10,870
Cg allows car wash, 24 hour

2898
01:29:10,870 --> 01:29:11,489
major minor autoo repair,

2899
01:29:11,489 --> 01:29:12,823
recyclable materiality recover

2900
01:29:12,823 --> 01:29:14,157
deargs material recovery,

2901
01:29:14,157 --> 01:29:15,359
24-hour shopping centers,

2902
01:29:15,359 --> 01:29:17,359
restaurants to eating

2903
01:29:19,130 --> 01:29:20,131
establishments not drive-thru,

2904
01:29:20,131 --> 01:29:22,131
banks and receptions.

2905
01:29:22,633 --> 01:29:23,534
We have a list of

2906
01:29:23,534 --> 01:29:24,235
restrictions -- actually most of

2907
01:29:24,235 --> 01:29:25,169
these were brought forward by

2908
01:29:25,169 --> 01:29:28,169
the staff which we were

2909
01:29:29,607 --> 01:29:31,809
accepting of them about the

2910
01:29:31,809 --> 01:29:34,209
fourth floor being recessed

2911
01:29:34,378 --> 01:29:35,279
having an opaque wall, no

2912
01:29:35,279 --> 01:29:36,614
balconies, disheeld

2913
01:29:36,614 --> 01:29:38,614
shield lighting,

2914
01:29:38,616 --> 01:29:40,510
screening, and location of

2915
01:29:40,510 --> 01:29:41,752
dumpster and loading services

2916
01:29:41,752 --> 01:29:43,920
would also be controlled.

2917
01:29:43,920 --> 01:29:45,560
Planning commission notes that

2918
01:29:45,560 --> 01:29:47,425
the cg which permits a broad

2919
01:29:47,425 --> 01:29:49,694
range of commercial uses MAY

2920
01:29:49,694 --> 01:29:50,728
generate greater external

2921
01:29:50,728 --> 01:29:52,230
impacts, and that what's

2922
01:29:52,230 --> 01:29:54,499
proposed are generally lower

2923
01:29:54,499 --> 01:29:55,967
intensity and more compatible

2924
01:29:55,967 --> 01:29:56,568
with adjacent multifamily

2925
01:29:56,568 --> 01:29:58,236
residential development.

2926
01:29:58,236 --> 01:29:58,836
I will say too that I did check

2927
01:29:58,836 --> 01:30:00,836
this morning.

2928
01:30:02,707 --> 01:30:04,676
We've had no e-mails or

2929
01:30:04,676 --> 01:30:06,344
communications of opposition or

2930
01:30:06,344 --> 01:30:07,178
concern raised from anyone in

2931
01:30:07,178 --> 01:30:08,780
the public.

2932
01:30:08,780 --> 01:30:10,478
Planning commission continue to

2933
01:30:10,482 --> 01:30:11,148
notes were consistent, directs

2934
01:30:11,148 --> 01:30:12,751
development toward the

2935
01:30:12,751 --> 01:30:14,219
appropriate land use

2936
01:30:14,219 --> 01:30:16,219
arrangement, crring

2937
01:30:16,287 --> 01:30:17,822
considering the

2938
01:30:17,822 --> 01:30:19,691
surrounding uses and miimizes

2939
01:30:19,691 --> 01:30:20,659
impacts or incompatibilities and

2940
01:30:20,659 --> 01:30:21,626
notes restrictions throughed

2941
01:30:21,626 --> 01:30:23,628
planned developments, provides a

2942
01:30:23,628 --> 01:30:25,696
more suitable intensity and

2943
01:30:25,696 --> 01:30:27,696
scale.

2944
01:30:28,433 --> 01:30:29,434
And notes regarding goal 7 that

2945
01:30:29,434 --> 01:30:31,200
it promotes employment

2946
01:30:31,200 --> 01:30:33,171
opportunities and contributes to

2947
01:30:33,171 --> 01:30:34,272
economic growth, and compatible

2948
01:30:34,272 --> 01:30:35,907
development pattern providing

2949
01:30:35,907 --> 01:30:36,908
appropriate transition between

2950
01:30:36,908 --> 01:30:39,308
commercial and residential which

2951
01:30:39,411 --> 01:30:40,178
i think is an important finding

2952
01:30:40,178 --> 01:30:43,178
by the planning commission for

2953
01:30:43,515 --> 01:30:45,500
this particular project.

2954
01:30:45,500 --> 01:30:45,916
Development services finds the

2955
01:30:45,916 --> 01:30:47,850
evelopment compatible with the

2956
01:30:47,850 --> 01:30:48,153
surrounding development pattern.

2957
01:30:48,153 --> 01:30:49,488
Staff further finds the

2958
01:30:49,488 --> 01:30:50,255
requested pd variance related to

2959
01:30:50,255 --> 01:30:50,822
buffering, screening

2960
01:30:50,822 --> 01:30:52,822
supportable.

2961
01:30:53,658 --> 01:30:54,626
So when you look at the site,

2962
01:30:54,626 --> 01:30:58,697
what we would suggest to you is

2963
01:30:58,697 --> 01:31:02,534
that the uses under cg would be

2964
01:31:02,534 --> 01:31:03,135
terribly impacting, terribly

2965
01:31:03,135 --> 01:31:04,770
disrupt fn to

2966
01:31:04,770 --> 01:31:07,170
disruptive to the multifamily,

2967
01:31:08,600 --> 01:31:09,875
which would be permissible now.

2968
01:31:09,875 --> 01:31:12,875
For example car washes, which

2969
01:31:15,147 --> 01:31:17,547
would be 24/7, outdoor banquets,

2970
01:31:18,820 --> 01:31:20,482
outdoor events, auto repair,

2971
01:31:22,454 --> 01:31:23,655
tire repair, restaurants,

2972
01:31:23,655 --> 01:31:26,550
24-hour restaurants, and just

2973
01:31:28,159 --> 01:31:29,595
for the record, I would like

2974
01:31:29,595 --> 01:31:31,362
to -- one second, if I MAY.

2975
01:31:31,362 --> 01:31:32,698
We did get one -- I'm sorry,

2976
01:31:32,698 --> 01:31:35,698
there was one letter, I

2977
01:31:36,735 --> 01:31:39,735
apologize, there was one email

2978
01:31:42,508 --> 01:31:43,750
of concern specifically about

2979
01:31:43,750 --> 01:31:43,441
stormwater.

2980
01:31:43,441 --> 01:31:45,441
I do have

2981
01:31:45,444 --> 01:31:47,646
have a letter here from the

2982
01:31:47,646 --> 01:31:49,348
engineer that the site is flat

2983
01:31:49,348 --> 01:31:50,416
but does drain south to a north

2984
01:31:50,416 --> 01:31:52,118
direction into a storm sewer

2985
01:31:52,118 --> 01:31:52,551
system within the west waters

2986
01:31:52,551 --> 01:31:53,485
right-of-way.

2987
01:31:53,485 --> 01:31:55,870
The site would be subject of

2988
01:31:55,870 --> 01:31:56,622
course to all meeting stormwater

2989
01:31:56,622 --> 01:31:59,525
requirements of the county and

2990
01:31:59,525 --> 01:32:01,525
swfwmd.

2991
01:35:57,632 --> 01:35:59,367
The applicant is proposing

2992
01:35:59,367 --> 01:36:01,767
enhanced screening along the

2993
01:36:02,870 --> 01:36:04,172
eastern and southern property

2994
01:36:04,172 --> 01:36:06,172
boundaries adjacent.

2995
01:36:06,674 --> 01:36:08,410
This is canopy trees at sa foot

2996
01:36:08,410 --> 01:36:10,780
intervals and this enhanced

2997
01:36:10,780 --> 01:36:12,146
buffering exceeds the standard

2998
01:36:12,146 --> 01:36:13,914
spacing requirements, will help

2999
01:36:13,914 --> 01:36:14,615
reduce visual impacts and

3000
01:36:14,615 --> 01:36:15,550
provides an appropriate

3001
01:36:15,550 --> 01:36:17,619
transition between the proposed

3002
01:36:17,619 --> 01:36:18,219
office use and the surrounding

3003
01:36:18,219 --> 01:36:20,219
residential development.

3004
01:36:20,921 --> 01:36:22,900
And lastly, the proposed

3005
01:36:22,900 --> 01:36:24,490
development meets the locational

3006
01:36:24,859 --> 01:36:27,859
criteria as the site fronts

3007
01:36:27,929 --> 01:36:28,630
along waters avenue and provide

3008
01:36:28,630 --> 01:36:29,330
office uses serving the

3009
01:36:29,330 --> 01:36:31,330
surrounding community.

3010
01:36:31,766 --> 01:36:32,266
Based upon these considerations,

3011
01:36:32,266 --> 01:36:33,801
the prayer

3012
01:36:33,801 --> 01:36:35,801
public to be

3013
01:36:37,404 --> 01:36:39,206
planning commission staff

3014
01:36:39,206 --> 01:36:40,942
finds this consistent subject to

3015
01:36:40,942 --> 01:36:41,776
the conditions proposed by the

3016
01:36:41,776 --> 01:36:43,545
hillsborough county development

3017
01:36:43,545 --> 01:36:44,279
services department.

3018
01:36:44,279 --> 01:36:44,946
>> hearing master: is there

3019
01:36:44,946 --> 01:36:46,247
anyone in the audience that

3020
01:36:46,247 --> 01:36:48,582
wishes to speak in support of

3021
01:36:48,582 --> 01:36:49,985
the application?

3022
01:36:49,985 --> 01:36:50,952
Seeing no one responding.

3023
01:36:50,952 --> 01:36:54,552
Anyone in the audience wish to

3024
01:36:56,358 --> 01:36:56,758
speak in opposition to the

3025
01:36:56,758 --> 01:36:58,758
application?

3026
01:36:58,960 --> 01:37:00,595
Seeing no one responding.

3027
01:37:00,595 --> 01:37:02,595
Staff anything further?

3028
01:37:03,565 --> 01:37:04,365
>> no, sir.

3029
01:37:04,365 --> 01:37:05,634
>> hearing master: michelle, if

3030
01:37:05,634 --> 01:37:07,601
you could, just the terminology.

3031
01:37:07,601 --> 01:37:11,201
In terms of the building itself,

3032
01:37:11,439 --> 01:37:14,709
just to be crystal clear, we say

3033
01:37:14,709 --> 01:37:16,478
four stories and 48 feet.

3034
01:37:16,478 --> 01:37:17,445
How do you -- you have ground

3035
01:37:17,445 --> 01:37:19,414
floor parking.

3036
01:37:19,414 --> 01:37:22,250
So it's below the building.

3037
01:37:22,250 --> 01:37:23,452
And then there's per the

3038
01:37:23,452 --> 01:37:24,453
applicant's testimony three

3039
01:37:24,453 --> 01:37:26,853
floors of office space.

3040
01:37:27,556 --> 01:37:29,825
And then a top floor of the

3041
01:37:29,825 --> 01:37:31,825
community gathering area.

3042
01:37:33,328 --> 01:37:36,265
So that's -- when you sa four

3043
01:37:36,265 --> 01:37:37,399
stories, that's fine.

3044
01:37:37,399 --> 01:37:38,400
>> it would not include -- I

3045
01:37:38,400 --> 01:37:40,569
believe they said the first

3046
01:37:40,569 --> 01:37:42,170
would be open parking.

3047
01:37:42,170 --> 01:37:42,571
>> hearing master: the top, open

3048
01:37:42,571 --> 01:37:43,605
underneath.

3049
01:37:43,605 --> 01:37:44,806
>> right, that would not be

3050
01:37:44,806 --> 01:37:45,774
considered a story.

3051
01:37:45,774 --> 01:37:48,774
>> hearing master: okay, got it.

3052
01:37:50,780 --> 01:37:50,879
Just wanted to make that clear.

3053
01:37:50,879 --> 01:37:52,748
All right, very good.

3054
01:37:52,748 --> 01:37:56,217
At this point in time, the

3055
01:37:56,217 --> 01:37:56,585
applicant has an opportunity for

3056
01:37:56,585 --> 01:37:58,585
rebuttal.

3057
01:37:58,987 --> 01:38:01,724
>> I would just say quickly that

3058
01:38:01,724 --> 01:38:04,724
we did notice 15 persons twice.

3059
01:38:06,528 --> 01:38:07,762
So we're glad that the immediate

3060
01:38:07,762 --> 01:38:08,497
community did not come forward

3061
01:38:08,497 --> 01:38:09,131
with any concerns.

3062
01:38:09,131 --> 01:38:09,898
Thank you.

3063
01:38:09,898 --> 01:38:10,265
>> hearing master: all right,

3064
01:38:10,265 --> 01:38:11,700
very good.

3065
01:38:11,700 --> 01:38:13,700
Thank you, sir.

3066
01:38:15,370 --> 01:38:15,838
With that, that concludes this

3067
01:38:15,838 --> 01:38:17,472
application.

3068
01:38:17,472 --> 01:38:17,773
MS. Heinrich, ready for the next

3069
01:38:17,773 --> 01:38:19,773
case.

3070
01:38:21,944 --> 01:38:23,712
>> next item is d-4, pd 26-0671.

3071
01:38:23,712 --> 01:38:26,712
The applicant is requesting to

3072
01:38:29,151 --> 01:38:31,921
rezone property from ar and pd

3073
01:38:31,921 --> 01:38:33,756
to planned development.

3074
01:38:33,756 --> 01:38:36,756
Tania chapela will provide staff

3075
01:38:36,759 --> 01:38:37,193
findings after the applicant's

3076
01:38:37,193 --> 01:38:37,827
presentation.

3077
01:38:37,827 --> 01:38:39,827
>> hearing master: the

3078
01:38:40,663 --> 01:38:42,431
applicant, please.

3079
01:38:42,431 --> 01:38:44,431
>> kami corbett, 400 north

3080
01:38:46,801 --> 01:38:47,269
ashley drive, suite 1100 tampa,

3081
01:38:47,269 --> 01:38:49,269
florida 33602.

3082
01:38:50,506 --> 01:38:51,941
Subject property is located in

3083
01:38:51,941 --> 01:38:53,376
the urban service area along

3084
01:38:53,376 --> 01:38:55,376
county road 672.

3085
01:38:55,978 --> 01:38:57,413
You can see it's near a lot of

3086
01:38:57,413 --> 01:38:59,282
development that is very similar

3087
01:38:59,282 --> 01:39:01,117
to what we are proposing.

3088
01:39:01,117 --> 01:39:03,419
We are proposing to rezone from

3089
01:39:03,419 --> 01:39:05,419
ar to pd.

3090
01:39:05,521 --> 01:39:06,956
And there is already a pd that's

3091
01:39:06,956 --> 01:39:10,556
approved on part of this site,

3092
01:39:10,860 --> 01:39:11,160
but we're converting the whole

3093
01:39:11,160 --> 01:39:12,862
thing.

3094
01:39:12,862 --> 01:39:15,862
So we are proposing standard

3095
01:39:16,666 --> 01:39:19,502
four units to the acre density

3096
01:39:19,502 --> 01:39:21,270
of 319 units -- I'm sorry.

3097
01:39:21,270 --> 01:39:24,207
Four units to the acre would be

3098
01:39:24,207 --> 01:39:26,743
319 units of proposed density of

3099
01:39:26,743 --> 01:39:28,578
2.75 units to the acre with a

3100
01:39:28,578 --> 01:39:30,579
standard 4400 square foot lot

3101
01:39:30,579 --> 01:39:31,548
that is pretty common in this

3102
01:39:31,548 --> 01:39:33,548
area.

3103
01:39:34,817 --> 01:39:35,485
And we have minimum setbacks of

3104
01:39:35,485 --> 01:39:37,120
20 feet.

3105
01:39:37,120 --> 01:39:38,887
Corners 10.

3106
01:39:38,887 --> 01:39:39,656
Side 5.

3107
01:39:39,656 --> 01:39:41,656
Rear 10.

3108
01:39:41,724 --> 01:39:43,459
Access, you can see is through

3109
01:39:43,459 --> 01:39:43,893
other developments, existing

3110
01:39:43,893 --> 01:39:45,893
developments.

3111
01:39:46,962 --> 01:39:49,165
So the primary access is to balm

3112
01:39:49,165 --> 01:39:50,933
road and we have a cross

3113
01:39:50,933 --> 01:39:52,335
connection to west acadia grove

3114
01:39:52,335 --> 01:39:54,637
line and you can see in the

3115
01:39:54,637 --> 01:39:57,637
staff report that traffic cannot

3116
01:39:58,441 --> 01:39:59,175
use that acadia grove lane.

3117
01:39:59,175 --> 01:39:59,876
>> hearing master: could you

3118
01:39:59,876 --> 01:40:00,877
repeat that?

3119
01:40:00,877 --> 01:40:02,780
>> I believe in the staff report

3120
01:40:02,780 --> 01:40:03,713
there's a condition that

3121
01:40:03,713 --> 01:40:05,150
construction access cannot come

3122
01:40:05,150 --> 01:40:05,915
and use --

3123
01:40:05,915 --> 01:40:06,249
>> hearing master: construction

3124
01:40:06,249 --> 01:40:07,217
access?

3125
01:40:07,217 --> 01:40:08,185
>> yes, construction access

3126
01:40:08,185 --> 01:40:09,285
cannot use.

3127
01:40:09,285 --> 01:40:10,387
>> hearing master: got it.

3128
01:40:10,387 --> 01:40:11,121
>> this has been found

3129
01:40:11,121 --> 01:40:13,122
consistent and compatible with

3130
01:40:13,122 --> 01:40:14,570
the comprehensive plan or many

3131
01:40:14,570 --> 01:40:15,725
policies that staff will review

3132
01:40:15,725 --> 01:40:17,160
when they present their reports

3133
01:40:17,160 --> 01:40:18,562
and in the interest of time, I

3134
01:40:18,562 --> 01:40:20,960
will yield my time and answer

3135
01:40:20,960 --> 01:40:20,363
any questions should you have

3136
01:40:20,363 --> 01:40:21,164
any.

3137
01:40:21,164 --> 01:40:22,298
>> hearing master: no questions.

3138
01:40:22,298 --> 01:40:24,298
Thank you.

3139
01:40:30,107 --> 01:40:32,107
Development services staff.

3140
01:40:33,242 --> 01:40:33,610
>> tania chapela, development

3141
01:40:33,610 --> 01:40:35,610
services.

3142
01:40:42,653 --> 01:40:45,653
I have a revised report.

3143
01:41:14,852 --> 01:41:16,852
>> hearing master: okay.

3144
01:41:18,622 --> 01:41:21,692
>> this is a request to rezone

3145
01:41:21,692 --> 01:41:24,920
approximately 79.9 acres from ar

3146
01:41:25,763 --> 01:41:28,799
and pd 93-0005 to a new planned

3147
01:41:28,799 --> 01:41:31,199
development allowing a maximum

3148
01:41:31,335 --> 01:41:32,436
of 220 single-family detached

3149
01:41:32,436 --> 01:41:34,436
dwelling units.

3150
01:41:36,807 --> 01:41:37,475
The proposed density is

3151
01:41:37,475 --> 01:41:38,976
approximately 2.75 dwelling

3152
01:41:38,976 --> 01:41:41,479
units per acre, below the

3153
01:41:41,479 --> 01:41:44,150
maximum density permitted by the

3154
01:41:44,150 --> 01:41:47,150
res-4 future land use category.

3155
01:41:48,185 --> 01:41:50,585
The project would provide

3156
01:41:51,989 --> 01:41:53,323
minimum 4,400 square foot lots,

3157
01:41:53,323 --> 01:41:56,159
40-foot lot width and a maximum

3158
01:41:56,159 --> 01:41:58,128
building height of 35 feet.

3159
01:41:58,128 --> 01:41:59,463
The surrounding areas include

3160
01:41:59,463 --> 01:42:01,299
agricultural and single-family

3161
01:42:01,299 --> 01:42:04,299
residential uses to the south

3162
01:42:04,902 --> 01:42:06,637
and the east and approved

3163
01:42:06,637 --> 01:42:08,339
residential development of

3164
01:42:08,339 --> 01:42:09,840
comparable density to the west.

3165
01:42:09,840 --> 01:42:12,240
Staff, therefore, finds the

3166
01:42:12,476 --> 01:42:14,211
proposal compatible with the

3167
01:42:14,211 --> 01:42:15,846
surrounding development pattern.

3168
01:42:15,846 --> 01:42:16,681
Development services staff

3169
01:42:16,681 --> 01:42:19,810
recommends approval subject to

3170
01:42:19,584 --> 01:42:21,584
the proposed conditions.

3171
01:42:21,752 --> 01:42:24,550
I'm presenting a revised report

3172
01:42:24,550 --> 01:42:24,956
to incorporate the

3173
01:42:24,956 --> 01:42:26,691
transportation conditions that

3174
01:42:26,691 --> 01:42:29,691
were missing in the previous

3175
01:42:30,195 --> 01:42:32,595
version of the report.

3176
01:42:32,830 --> 01:42:33,970
>> hearing master: okay, thank

3177
01:42:33,970 --> 01:42:33,798
you.

3178
01:42:33,798 --> 01:42:35,366
Planning commission staff.

3179
01:42:35,366 --> 01:42:36,100
>> lily linehan, planning

3180
01:42:36,100 --> 01:42:37,201
commission staff.

3181
01:42:37,201 --> 01:42:38,769
The subject property is located

3182
01:42:38,769 --> 01:42:39,270
within the residential 4 future

3183
01:42:39,270 --> 01:42:41,172
land use category.

3184
01:42:41,172 --> 01:42:42,574
It's within the urban service

3185
01:42:42,574 --> 01:42:46,174
area and within the limits of

3186
01:42:49,313 --> 01:42:51,282
the balm community plan,

3187
01:42:51,282 --> 01:42:52,417
riverview community plan.

3188
01:42:52,417 --> 01:42:54,752
Objective 1.1 of the future land

3189
01:42:54,752 --> 01:42:57,152
use directs approximately 80% of

3190
01:42:57,222 --> 01:42:58,423
the county's future growth and

3191
01:42:58,423 --> 01:42:59,858
development and F.L.U. Policy

3192
01:42:59,858 --> 01:43:01,260
requires that new development be

3193
01:43:01,260 --> 01:43:01,325
compatible with the surrounding

3194
01:43:01,325 --> 01:43:03,325
area.

3195
01:43:03,428 --> 01:43:04,195
The proposed residential

3196
01:43:04,195 --> 01:43:05,196
community provides an

3197
01:43:05,196 --> 01:43:06,131
appropriate transition between

3198
01:43:06,131 --> 01:43:08,531
the existing agricultural and

3199
01:43:08,900 --> 01:43:10,201
residential land uses and is

3200
01:43:10,201 --> 01:43:11,969
consistent with the established

3201
01:43:11,969 --> 01:43:12,337
development pattern in the

3202
01:43:12,337 --> 01:43:13,938
vicinity.

3203
01:43:13,938 --> 01:43:14,639
Additionally the intent of the

3204
01:43:14,639 --> 01:43:16,675
residential 4 future land use

3205
01:43:16,675 --> 01:43:18,208
category is to designate areas

3206
01:43:18,208 --> 01:43:19,978
that are suitable for low

3207
01:43:19,978 --> 01:43:21,978
density residential development.

3208
01:43:22,470 --> 01:43:23,882
And this designation permits a

3209
01:43:23,882 --> 01:43:25,317
maximum density of four dwelling

3210
01:43:25,317 --> 01:43:27,717
units per gross acre.

3211
01:43:27,752 --> 01:43:30,752
Based on the site's gross

3212
01:43:30,889 --> 01:43:31,990
acreage of 79 acres, under the

3213
01:43:31,990 --> 01:43:33,725
residential 4 designation they

3214
01:43:33,725 --> 01:43:34,725
could be allowed to consider up

3215
01:43:34,725 --> 01:43:36,695
to 319 dwelling units.

3216
01:43:36,695 --> 01:43:38,329
The applicant proposes a

3217
01:43:38,329 --> 01:43:39,531
residential community consisting

3218
01:43:39,531 --> 01:43:41,500
of 220 single-family detached

3219
01:43:41,500 --> 01:43:44,102
dwelling units and the proposed

3220
01:43:44,102 --> 01:43:46,338
development is of a use and of a

3221
01:43:46,338 --> 01:43:48,173
density that does not exceed the

3222
01:43:48,173 --> 01:43:49,841
allowable maximum under the

3223
01:43:49,841 --> 01:43:50,207
residential 4 future land use

3224
01:43:50,207 --> 01:43:51,243
category.

3225
01:43:51,243 --> 01:43:53,111
The development is also

3226
01:43:53,111 --> 01:43:56,470
consistent with the intent of

3227
01:43:56,470 --> 01:43:57,382
F.L.U.'s objective 4.4 and

3228
01:43:57,382 --> 01:43:58,500
policy 4.4.1 which require new

3229
01:43:58,500 --> 01:43:59,218
development to be compatible

3230
01:43:59,218 --> 01:44:00,452
with the character and

3231
01:44:00,452 --> 01:44:01,520
development pattern of

3232
01:44:01,520 --> 01:44:02,540
surrounding properties.

3233
01:44:02,540 --> 01:44:03,822
The proposed residential

3234
01:44:03,822 --> 01:44:04,689
community of single-family

3235
01:44:04,689 --> 01:44:06,325
detached homes is compatible

3236
01:44:06,325 --> 01:44:07,860
with the surrounding development

3237
01:44:07,860 --> 01:44:09,395
pattern and serves as a

3238
01:44:09,395 --> 01:44:11,290
complementary use to the

3239
01:44:11,290 --> 01:44:11,797
existing residential

3240
01:44:11,797 --> 01:44:12,698
neighborhoods, agricultural

3241
01:44:12,698 --> 01:44:13,232
lands and institutional uses in

3242
01:44:13,232 --> 01:44:14,867
the area.

3243
01:44:14,867 --> 01:44:17,169
The proposed planned development

3244
01:44:17,169 --> 01:44:18,470
is consistent with goal 2 of the

3245
01:44:18,470 --> 01:44:20,672
riverview community plan and

3246
01:44:20,672 --> 01:44:23,308
goal 1 of the cultural and

3247
01:44:23,308 --> 01:44:24,430
historical objective of the

3248
01:44:24,430 --> 01:44:26,450
southshore areawide systems plan

3249
01:44:26,450 --> 01:44:28,580
and the proposal preserves on

3250
01:44:28,580 --> 01:44:30,949
site wetlands and adverse

3251
01:44:30,949 --> 01:44:32,151
impacts so it is consistent with

3252
01:44:32,151 --> 01:44:32,952
the applicant comprehensive plan

3253
01:44:32,952 --> 01:44:34,453
policies and objectives that

3254
01:44:34,453 --> 01:44:35,120
cover growth in environmentally

3255
01:44:35,120 --> 01:44:36,956
sensitive areas.

3256
01:44:36,956 --> 01:44:37,957
Based possible the above

3257
01:44:37,957 --> 01:44:39,257
considerations and the following

3258
01:44:39,257 --> 01:44:39,992
goals, objectives and policies,

3259
01:44:39,992 --> 01:44:42,392
planning commission staff finds

3260
01:44:42,761 --> 01:44:44,396
the proposed planned development

3261
01:44:44,396 --> 01:44:45,640
consistent with the

3262
01:44:45,640 --> 01:44:45,698
unincorporated hillsborough

3263
01:44:45,698 --> 01:44:46,899
county comprehensive plan

3264
01:44:46,899 --> 01:44:47,900
subject to the proposed

3265
01:44:47,900 --> 01:44:49,535
conditions by development

3266
01:44:49,535 --> 01:44:50,302
services department.

3267
01:44:50,302 --> 01:44:51,737
>> hearing master: all right.

3268
01:44:51,737 --> 01:44:52,705
Thank you.

3269
01:44:52,705 --> 01:44:53,639
At this point in time, is there

3270
01:44:53,639 --> 01:44:55,141
anyone in the audience that

3271
01:44:55,141 --> 01:44:58,410
wishes to speak in support of

3272
01:44:58,410 --> 01:45:00,790
the application?

3273
01:45:00,790 --> 01:45:01,714
Seeing no one responding.

3274
01:45:01,714 --> 01:45:04,750
Anyone in the audience wish to

3275
01:45:04,750 --> 01:45:07,750
speak in opposition to the

3276
01:45:10,890 --> 01:45:12,890
application?

3277
01:45:13,759 --> 01:45:14,193
Yeah.

3278
01:45:14,193 --> 01:45:16,193
Good evening.

3279
01:45:17,230 --> 01:45:17,897
>> I have been sworn in.

3280
01:45:17,897 --> 01:45:18,998
>> hearing master: okay.

3281
01:45:18,998 --> 01:45:20,733
Good, raise your right hand.

3282
01:45:20,733 --> 01:45:21,733
Do you swear to tell the truth,

3283
01:45:21,733 --> 01:45:23,603
the whole truth and nothing but

3284
01:45:23,603 --> 01:45:24,470
the truth so help you GOD?

3285
01:45:24,470 --> 01:45:26,870
>> so help me GOD.

3286
01:45:29,750 --> 01:45:30,242
My name is al brunner, I live in

3287
01:45:30,242 --> 01:45:31,911
carlton lake road.

3288
01:45:31,911 --> 01:45:35,647
I am the PRESIDENT Of the balm

3289
01:45:35,647 --> 01:45:37,647
civic association.

3290
01:45:38,351 --> 01:45:40,987
And yes, I oppose this

3291
01:45:40,987 --> 01:45:42,855
development along with the other

3292
01:45:42,855 --> 01:45:44,256
developments that have violated

3293
01:45:44,256 --> 01:45:46,656
the balm community development

3294
01:45:47,894 --> 01:45:50,530
plan which this already said is

3295
01:45:50,530 --> 01:45:51,998
within, which is one house per 5 acres.

3296
01:45:51,998 --> 01:45:53,700
We don't want it grouped and we

3297
01:45:53,700 --> 01:45:56,100
don't want it reduced.

3298
01:45:57,970 --> 01:46:01,570
We already have too much traffic

3299
01:46:02,475 --> 01:46:03,910
on that main truck route and

3300
01:46:03,910 --> 01:46:05,845
this adds just one more entry

3301
01:46:05,845 --> 01:46:09,248
point into that road that's just

3302
01:46:09,248 --> 01:46:11,248
a two-lane road.

3303
01:46:12,185 --> 01:46:13,485
Our school is overloaded.

3304
01:46:13,485 --> 01:46:15,155
Sumner high school, during the

3305
01:46:15,155 --> 01:46:16,389
planning and the school board

3306
01:46:16,389 --> 01:46:19,392
folks -- when that went in, they

3307
01:46:19,392 --> 01:46:20,393
didn't plan.

3308
01:46:20,393 --> 01:46:22,461
They did grow so fat.

3309
01:46:22,461 --> 01:46:25,461
Within the second year of

3310
01:46:25,632 --> 01:46:27,300
operation, it was about 70%

3311
01:46:27,300 --> 01:46:29,700
beyond its planned capacity.

3312
01:46:30,570 --> 01:46:30,870
I know, my daughter graduated

3313
01:46:30,870 --> 01:46:32,720
there.

3314
01:46:32,720 --> 01:46:35,720
We don't have the firehouses.

3315
01:46:35,808 --> 01:46:37,900
We don't have the medical

3316
01:46:37,900 --> 01:46:38,979
response.

3317
01:46:38,979 --> 01:46:40,380
Our schools are overloaded and

3318
01:46:40,380 --> 01:46:41,810
all you guys do is approve more

3319
01:46:41,810 --> 01:46:43,810
and more housing.

3320
01:46:43,350 --> 01:46:44,484
Our roads are crap.

3321
01:46:44,484 --> 01:46:47,200
The person -- some of the people

3322
01:46:47,200 --> 01:46:48,221
in opposition to the apollo

3323
01:46:48,221 --> 01:46:49,923
beach that I got to hear before

3324
01:46:49,923 --> 01:46:51,658
I jumped in the car to come

3325
01:46:51,658 --> 01:46:54,658
running down here from balm,

3326
01:46:55,496 --> 01:46:59,990
since I couldn't tune in and be

3327
01:46:59,990 --> 01:47:01,168
made a speaker from online.

3328
01:47:01,168 --> 01:47:03,470
I literally got here right

3329
01:47:03,470 --> 01:47:05,470
before this happened.

3330
01:47:06,206 --> 01:47:09,806
Because I'm busy, I'm working, I

3331
01:47:10,377 --> 01:47:11,945
do a lot of work travel.

3332
01:47:11,945 --> 01:47:13,747
But the area is getting to a

3333
01:47:13,747 --> 01:47:15,820
point where I'm going to take my

3334
01:47:15,820 --> 01:47:17,817
money and our resources --

3335
01:47:17,817 --> 01:47:20,988
because I make good money -- and

3336
01:47:20,988 --> 01:47:22,189
go somewhere else that has good

3337
01:47:22,189 --> 01:47:23,624
planning and a balanced planning

3338
01:47:23,624 --> 01:47:25,125
and governance for all, not a

3339
01:47:25,125 --> 01:47:26,893
select few.

3340
01:47:26,893 --> 01:47:29,893
Get the infrastructure in there.

3341
01:47:32,320 --> 01:47:33,333
Don't get any more housing by

3342
01:47:33,333 --> 01:47:33,437
the tens of thousands.

3343
01:47:33,437 --> 01:47:35,437
-

3344
01:47:38,806 --> 01:47:39,706
you are coming down 674, 85 to

3345
01:47:39,706 --> 01:47:41,241
15,000 more homes.

3346
01:47:41,241 --> 01:47:44,712
We won't even talk about what

3347
01:47:44,712 --> 01:47:45,713
that does for reduced

3348
01:47:45,713 --> 01:47:47,713
agricultural capacity and

3349
01:47:49,416 --> 01:47:51,151
building for food.

3350
01:47:51,151 --> 01:47:52,520
While we reduce our capacity to

3351
01:47:52,520 --> 01:47:54,655
grow it locally here in

3352
01:47:54,655 --> 01:47:55,356
hillsborough county, we're

3353
01:47:55,356 --> 01:47:56,623
exponentially increasing that

3354
01:47:56,623 --> 01:47:58,325
demand to come from somewhere

3355
01:47:58,325 --> 01:47:59,794
else and assuming that those

3356
01:47:59,794 --> 01:48:02,794
other places aren't doing the

3357
01:48:02,997 --> 01:48:06,467
same thing that we're doing I

3358
01:48:06,467 --> 01:48:06,934
reckless overdevelopment with no

3359
01:48:06,934 --> 01:48:08,934
infrastructure.

3360
01:48:09,537 --> 01:48:10,538
We want to keep one house per 5,

3361
01:48:10,538 --> 01:48:12,600
that's reasonable.

3362
01:48:12,600 --> 01:48:13,807
It doesn't make these houses so

3363
01:48:13,807 --> 01:48:15,576
close together you can spit and

3364
01:48:15,576 --> 01:48:16,978
go across three houses.

3365
01:48:16,978 --> 01:48:19,280
That doesn't produce them to

3366
01:48:19,280 --> 01:48:21,582
make a fire hazard when they are

3367
01:48:21,582 --> 01:48:21,882
separated by five to 10 feet

3368
01:48:21,882 --> 01:48:22,917
apart.

3369
01:48:22,917 --> 01:48:23,551
Where you can actually drive

3370
01:48:23,551 --> 01:48:25,551
into your backyard.

3371
01:48:28,823 --> 01:48:29,223
You can actually have a

3372
01:48:29,223 --> 01:48:31,223
playground.

3373
01:48:33,600 --> 01:48:33,528
We need the right

3374
01:48:33,528 --> 01:48:34,495
infrastructure.

3375
01:48:34,495 --> 01:48:35,696
I am opposed to growth.

3376
01:48:35,696 --> 01:48:36,164
I would fight it and stop it

3377
01:48:36,164 --> 01:48:38,164
where it is.

3378
01:48:38,331 --> 01:48:39,966
I know that won't happen.

3379
01:48:39,966 --> 01:48:43,237
But every time we try to do

3380
01:48:43,237 --> 01:48:44,138
managed growth, this body keeps

3381
01:48:44,138 --> 01:48:46,741
undercutting us and letting the

3382
01:48:46,741 --> 01:48:48,776
developers come in and change

3383
01:48:48,776 --> 01:48:50,440
the rules by coming in here and

3384
01:48:50,440 --> 01:48:52,440
getting more changes.

3385
01:48:52,780 --> 01:48:54,182
Every motion to change is for

3386
01:48:54,182 --> 01:48:54,516
changing agriculture to high

3387
01:48:54,516 --> 01:48:55,583
density.

3388
01:48:55,583 --> 01:48:56,951
And when they do get the

3389
01:48:56,951 --> 01:48:58,452
approval for a lower density, a

3390
01:48:58,452 --> 01:49:00,188
couple of months later they come

3391
01:49:00,188 --> 01:49:03,788
in and ask for more density.

3392
01:49:04,892 --> 01:49:05,260
When they think nobody else is

3393
01:49:05,260 --> 01:49:07,195
watching.

3394
01:49:07,195 --> 01:49:08,396
You are making -- you are not

3395
01:49:08,396 --> 01:49:10,396
doing balanced governance.

3396
01:49:11,332 --> 01:49:11,666
You are not doing balanced

3397
01:49:11,666 --> 01:49:12,767
growth.

3398
01:49:12,767 --> 01:49:14,135
You're putting all the houses in

3399
01:49:14,135 --> 01:49:17,135
one area and no infrastructure

3400
01:49:17,372 --> 01:49:20,108
to get to the jobs or create

3401
01:49:20,108 --> 01:49:20,842
businesses, industrial,

3402
01:49:20,842 --> 01:49:23,842
commercial, etc. That are going

3403
01:49:24,379 --> 01:49:27,379
to generate the incomes without

3404
01:49:27,448 --> 01:49:27,782
making commutes exponentially

3405
01:49:27,782 --> 01:49:29,782
longer.

3406
01:49:30,285 --> 01:49:31,252
I know that there is some issues

3407
01:49:31,252 --> 01:49:32,854
with the state and some of the

3408
01:49:32,854 --> 01:49:34,854
state regulations.

3409
01:49:35,190 --> 01:49:36,391
By GOD, we need to fight it.

3410
01:49:36,391 --> 01:49:39,261
There's people here that want to

3411
01:49:39,261 --> 01:49:40,929
fight it.

3412
01:49:40,929 --> 01:49:43,310
So please, let's do balanced

3413
01:49:43,310 --> 01:49:45,310
governance.

3414
01:49:46,670 --> 01:49:47,936
Let's not violate the community

3415
01:49:47,936 --> 01:49:50,936
development plan that balm has

3416
01:49:52,507 --> 01:49:52,841
had for the last 20 years any

3417
01:49:52,841 --> 01:49:54,841
further.

3418
01:49:55,343 --> 01:49:57,212
1 to 5, I don't like it.

3419
01:49:57,212 --> 01:49:58,980
I don't like the balm grove.

3420
01:49:58,980 --> 01:49:59,347
It's caused all kinds of

3421
01:49:59,347 --> 01:50:01,347
problems.

3422
01:50:02,117 --> 01:50:03,451
We're having increased number of

3423
01:50:03,451 --> 01:50:04,185
people going on to other

3424
01:50:04,185 --> 01:50:05,987
people's properties as a result

3425
01:50:05,987 --> 01:50:07,823
of it.

3426
01:50:07,823 --> 01:50:09,124
We don't have the -- again, we

3427
01:50:09,124 --> 01:50:11,426
don't have the first responders.

3428
01:50:11,426 --> 01:50:13,962
We don't have the firehouses.

3429
01:50:13,962 --> 01:50:14,528
And everywhere is getting

3430
01:50:14,528 --> 01:50:16,365
exponentially longer.

3431
01:50:16,365 --> 01:50:19,201
As the person in apollo beach

3432
01:50:19,201 --> 01:50:21,303
had said, it's taking them 25

3433
01:50:21,303 --> 01:50:23,380
minutes plus to get just to the

3434
01:50:23,380 --> 01:50:25,380
interstate.

3435
01:50:26,750 --> 01:50:26,475
I live seven miles off the

3436
01:50:26,475 --> 01:50:28,100
interstate.

3437
01:50:28,100 --> 01:50:29,144
I have to plan at least 30

3438
01:50:29,144 --> 01:50:29,810
minutes plus whatever traffic

3439
01:50:29,810 --> 01:50:31,380
jam there is.

3440
01:50:31,380 --> 01:50:33,515
I don't go anywhere during rush

3441
01:50:33,515 --> 01:50:34,820
hour because it takes too

3442
01:50:34,820 --> 01:50:35,384
doggone long.

3443
01:50:35,384 --> 01:50:37,152
Not to mention everybody is

3444
01:50:37,152 --> 01:50:38,654
rushing because everybody is

3445
01:50:38,654 --> 01:50:39,888
trying to get to their place to

3446
01:50:39,888 --> 01:50:42,591
get their demands, whether to

3447
01:50:42,591 --> 01:50:44,259
pick up kids from school or

3448
01:50:44,259 --> 01:50:45,461
extra activities or just get

3449
01:50:45,461 --> 01:50:46,280
gas, just get groceries.

3450
01:50:46,280 --> 01:50:48,428
And they are rushing.

3451
01:50:50,366 --> 01:50:50,732
and we're having more and more

3452
01:50:50,732 --> 01:50:52,732
accidents.

3453
01:50:52,901 --> 01:50:54,637
In addition to the planning of

3454
01:50:54,637 --> 01:50:55,337
just the overloaded

3455
01:50:55,337 --> 01:50:57,737
infrastructure, not to mention

3456
01:51:00,209 --> 01:51:04,409
the lack of water that we have,

3457
01:51:12,210 --> 01:51:12,788
many of the main they areow

3458
01:51:12,788 --> 01:51:14,756
they

3459
01:51:14,756 --> 01:51:16,392
and now

3460
01:51:16,392 --> 01:51:17,359
everybody has to do u-turns that

3461
01:51:17,359 --> 01:51:19,228
generates lines which causes

3462
01:51:19,228 --> 01:51:20,730
more people to drive more

3463
01:51:20,730 --> 01:51:21,863
reckless to get to where they

3464
01:51:21,863 --> 01:51:23,232
want to go and cut more people

3465
01:51:23,232 --> 01:51:25,670
off and more accidents, again

3466
01:51:25,670 --> 01:51:27,236
without the first responders

3467
01:51:27,236 --> 01:51:27,569
that we have in existence

3468
01:51:27,569 --> 01:51:28,537
already.

3469
01:51:28,537 --> 01:51:29,371
We're already behind.

3470
01:51:29,371 --> 01:51:32,371
Thank you for my time.

3471
01:51:32,608 --> 01:51:32,874
>> hearing master: thank you,

3472
01:51:32,874 --> 01:51:33,542
sir.

3473
01:51:33,542 --> 01:51:37,142
Is there anyone else in the

3474
01:51:39,181 --> 01:51:39,582
audience that wishes to speak in

3475
01:51:39,582 --> 01:51:41,170
opposition?

3476
01:51:41,170 --> 01:51:43,170
No one responding.

3477
01:51:43,553 --> 01:51:45,553
Staff, anything further?

3478
01:51:45,621 --> 01:51:46,422
>> no, sir.

3479
01:51:46,422 --> 01:51:48,822
>> hearing master: applicant has

3480
01:51:49,325 --> 01:51:50,910
an opportunity for rebuttal.

3481
01:51:50,910 --> 01:51:52,491
>> sure, kami corbett again.

3482
01:51:58,000 --> 01:52:00,636
Let's go back to one of my

3483
01:52:00,636 --> 01:52:03,239
slides that shows -- on the

3484
01:52:03,239 --> 01:52:06,239
right, you'll see there's an

3485
01:52:07,760 --> 01:52:07,377
existing pd that allows for 200

3486
01:52:07,377 --> 01:52:08,344
units.

3487
01:52:08,344 --> 01:52:13,144
And I have a copy of that I'm

3488
01:52:16,510 --> 01:52:17,687
going to place in the record.

3489
01:52:17,687 --> 01:52:18,354
This will all fit in one place.

3490
01:52:18,354 --> 01:52:20,323
Thank you.

3491
01:52:20,323 --> 01:52:20,723
So that's existing approved

3492
01:52:20,723 --> 01:52:22,723
development.

3493
01:52:23,927 --> 01:52:25,461
And so we are just seeking 220,

3494
01:52:25,461 --> 01:52:27,297
so we're adding 20 additional

3495
01:52:27,297 --> 01:52:27,664
units to what's already

3496
01:52:27,664 --> 01:52:29,199
approved.

3497
01:52:29,199 --> 01:52:31,601
And we're just spreading the

3498
01:52:31,601 --> 01:52:34,100
density around the site.

3499
01:52:34,204 --> 01:52:35,170
The issue of density and

3500
01:52:35,170 --> 01:52:38,174
intensity as far as the balm

3501
01:52:38,174 --> 01:52:40,377
community plan, this subject

3502
01:52:40,377 --> 01:52:41,611
site was previously rp-2 which

3503
01:52:41,611 --> 01:52:42,345
has now been changed by the

3504
01:52:42,345 --> 01:52:44,514
board of county commissioners to

3505
01:52:44,514 --> 01:52:46,149
be inside the urban service

3506
01:52:46,149 --> 01:52:48,149
boundary and res-4.

3507
01:52:49,652 --> 01:52:51,187
And so what we are asking for is

3508
01:52:51,187 --> 01:52:52,722
2.75 units to the acre.

3509
01:52:52,722 --> 01:52:54,257
Under the old comprehensive

3510
01:52:54,257 --> 01:52:56,226
plan, we would have had to have

3511
01:52:56,226 --> 01:52:57,961
had a minimum density of 75%.

3512
01:52:57,961 --> 01:52:59,830
The board modified that policy

3513
01:52:59,830 --> 01:53:01,698
to allow us to be under, to have

3514
01:53:01,698 --> 01:53:03,567
development that is actually

3515
01:53:03,567 --> 01:53:03,934
under the maximum density that's

3516
01:53:03,934 --> 01:53:05,735
permitted.

3517
01:53:05,735 --> 01:53:08,271
And we are below that.

3518
01:53:08,271 --> 01:53:10,140
So in terms of traffic and

3519
01:53:10,140 --> 01:53:11,541
schools, those are -- this is

3520
01:53:11,541 --> 01:53:13,643
not a legislative decision.

3521
01:53:13,643 --> 01:53:14,711
This is a quasi-judicial

3522
01:53:14,711 --> 01:53:15,646
rezoning decision.

3523
01:53:15,646 --> 01:53:17,470
And there are certain rules that

3524
01:53:17,470 --> 01:53:19,216
are applied and laws that need

3525
01:53:19,216 --> 01:53:19,516
to be applied when analyzing the

3526
01:53:19,516 --> 01:53:21,151
case.

3527
01:53:21,151 --> 01:53:22,510
And that's what the professional

3528
01:53:22,510 --> 01:53:23,520
planners for the county and the

3529
01:53:23,520 --> 01:53:23,453
planning commission have done in

3530
01:53:23,453 --> 01:53:24,654
this case.

3531
01:53:24,654 --> 01:53:26,623
And they have found that the

3532
01:53:26,623 --> 01:53:28,725
proposed request is consistent

3533
01:53:28,725 --> 01:53:29,259
and respectfully request your

3534
01:53:29,259 --> 01:53:30,270
approval.

3535
01:53:30,270 --> 01:53:31,562
>> hearing master: okay, thank

3536
01:53:31,562 --> 01:53:33,562
you, ma'am.

3537
01:53:34,631 --> 01:53:35,299
With that, that concludes this

3538
01:53:35,299 --> 01:53:36,466
application.

3539
01:53:36,466 --> 01:53:36,767
MS. Heinrich, ready for the next

3540
01:53:36,767 --> 01:53:38,767
case.

3541
01:53:39,536 --> 01:53:42,710
>> our next application is item

3542
01:53:42,710 --> 01:53:43,807
d-5, pd 26-0673.

3543
01:53:43,807 --> 01:53:46,807
The applicant is requesting to

3544
01:53:48,712 --> 01:53:51,712
rezone property from rfq 9 to

3545
01:53:53,649 --> 01:53:55,649
planned development.

3546
01:53:55,852 --> 01:53:57,530
Tim lampkin will provide staff

3547
01:53:57,530 --> 01:53:59,453
findings after the applicant's

3548
01:54:05,950 --> 01:54:05,629
presentation.

3549
01:54:05,629 --> 01:54:07,629
>> good evening.

3550
01:54:08,866 --> 01:54:11,735
My name is catherine coyle with

3551
01:54:11,735 --> 01:54:13,735
bogs engineering, 607 south

3552
01:54:15,390 --> 01:54:17,439
alexander striet, plant city

3553
01:54:19,944 --> 01:54:20,377
representing the cdc of tampa

3554
01:54:20,377 --> 01:54:21,779
incorporated.

3555
01:54:21,779 --> 01:54:23,781
The project is located at the

3556
01:54:23,781 --> 01:54:26,781
southeast corner of east 23rd

3557
01:54:26,817 --> 01:54:29,217
avenue and 65th street.

3558
01:54:29,553 --> 01:54:31,321
Next slide.

3559
01:54:31,321 --> 01:54:33,890
The project location, as you can

3560
01:54:33,890 --> 01:54:34,825
see, just to the north of this

3561
01:54:34,825 --> 01:54:36,825
aerial is I-4.

3562
01:54:36,894 --> 01:54:38,529
There's a large wetland along

3563
01:54:38,529 --> 01:54:40,640
that area.

3564
01:54:40,640 --> 01:54:41,599
On the southern portion of this

3565
01:54:41,599 --> 01:54:43,234
aerial, the reason I included it

3566
01:54:43,234 --> 01:54:45,536
is that's columbus broadway.

3567
01:54:45,536 --> 01:54:47,710
That is about 120 feet north of

3568
01:54:47,710 --> 01:54:50,541
that roadway is the city of

3569
01:54:50,541 --> 01:54:51,142
tampa boundary, which is

3570
01:54:51,142 --> 01:54:51,975
predominantly industrial

3571
01:54:51,975 --> 01:54:54,145
commercial along that street.

3572
01:54:54,145 --> 01:54:55,246
And you can see the development

3573
01:54:55,246 --> 01:54:57,646
pattern within the area.

3574
01:55:00,285 --> 01:55:02,153
Next slide.

3575
01:55:02,153 --> 01:55:02,420
Future land use is residential

3576
01:55:02,420 --> 01:55:04,222
12.

3577
01:55:04,222 --> 01:55:05,523
We are proposing 12 units per

3578
01:55:05,523 --> 01:55:06,991
acre.

3579
01:55:06,991 --> 01:55:07,725
There's no bonus density

3580
01:55:07,725 --> 01:55:09,725
requested for this.

3581
01:55:10,261 --> 01:55:10,561
This is within the urban service

3582
01:55:10,561 --> 01:55:11,662
area.

3583
01:55:11,662 --> 01:55:12,764
And water and sewer service is

3584
01:55:12,764 --> 01:55:16,364
actually provided by the city of

3585
01:55:18,770 --> 01:55:19,137
tampa in this particular

3586
01:55:19,137 --> 01:55:19,871
location.

3587
01:55:19,871 --> 01:55:21,871
Next slide.

3588
01:55:22,273 --> 01:55:25,109
The zoning is rsc-9 currently.

3589
01:55:25,109 --> 01:55:26,344
We're requesting the pd for the

3590
01:55:26,344 --> 01:55:27,645
units in question.

3591
01:55:27,645 --> 01:55:30,181
You'll notice the pattern of

3592
01:55:30,181 --> 01:55:32,484
zoning surrounding the area,

3593
01:55:32,484 --> 01:55:34,619
rsc-9 is the bulk of the body in

3594
01:55:34,619 --> 01:55:36,870
there with pd surrounding from

3595
01:55:36,870 --> 01:55:39,870
different years, ranging all the

3596
01:55:40,425 --> 01:55:43,610
way back to '84 up to 2024.

3597
01:55:43,610 --> 01:55:46,231
There's a scattering of rdc12 as

3598
01:55:46,231 --> 01:55:47,165
well and a couple of commercial

3599
01:55:47,165 --> 01:55:47,766
properties located in this

3600
01:55:47,766 --> 01:55:49,401
particular district.

3601
01:55:49,401 --> 01:55:52,401
immediately to the north is

3602
01:55:54,673 --> 01:55:55,774
rsc-9, rdc12 and cg to the west.

3603
01:55:55,774 --> 01:55:57,642
Rsc-9 to the east.

3604
01:55:57,642 --> 01:55:59,642
Next slide.

3605
01:56:00,450 --> 01:56:00,811
The surrounding uses -- oh, next

3606
01:56:00,811 --> 01:56:01,579
slide, sorry.

3607
01:56:01,579 --> 01:56:03,979
Yeah, there you go.

3608
01:56:05,350 --> 01:56:06,718
The surrounding uses I put in

3609
01:56:06,718 --> 01:56:09,718
there just to show you.

3610
01:56:10,522 --> 01:56:10,855
It's a large -- previous slide,

3611
01:56:10,855 --> 01:56:11,857
please.

3612
01:56:11,857 --> 01:56:13,857
Thank you.

3613
01:56:15,794 --> 01:56:17,763
It's a large block.

3614
01:56:17,763 --> 01:56:18,630
East 23rd avenue is on the

3615
01:56:18,630 --> 01:56:20,630
north.

3616
01:56:21,566 --> 01:56:23,769
East 21t is on the south.

3617
01:56:23,769 --> 01:56:27,205
65th is on the west side.

3618
01:56:27,205 --> 01:56:30,242
The cg and the rdc12 is on the

3619
01:56:30,242 --> 01:56:33,780
west and that is a small -- it's

3620
01:56:33,780 --> 01:56:35,247
listed as a store commercial.

3621
01:56:35,247 --> 01:56:35,580
It's some type of vending

3622
01:56:35,580 --> 01:56:36,915
company.

3623
01:56:36,915 --> 01:56:38,650
And they have some outdoor

3624
01:56:38,650 --> 01:56:40,285
storage of some equipment.

3625
01:56:40,285 --> 01:56:42,685
Then there's a single-family

3626
01:56:42,688 --> 01:56:42,988
house as well to the north of

3627
01:56:42,988 --> 01:56:43,789
that.

3628
01:56:43,789 --> 01:56:46,189
There's four single-family homes

3629
01:56:46,725 --> 01:56:48,493
to the north side.

3630
01:56:48,493 --> 01:56:50,280
The large parcel to the east is

3631
01:56:50,280 --> 01:56:50,362
actually also owned by the

3632
01:56:50,362 --> 01:56:52,362
county.

3633
01:56:52,664 --> 01:56:53,310
And I just put this in

3634
01:56:53,310 --> 01:56:54,532
reference.

3635
01:56:54,532 --> 01:56:55,834
This property is owned by the

3636
01:56:55,834 --> 01:56:59,434
county as well and it's been

3637
01:57:00,772 --> 01:57:01,172
transferred to the cdc for

3638
01:57:01,172 --> 01:57:02,274
development.

3639
01:57:02,274 --> 01:57:03,174
There are three multi-family

3640
01:57:03,174 --> 01:57:05,477
buildings to the south.

3641
01:57:05,477 --> 01:57:06,679
And then to the southeast, I

3642
01:57:06,679 --> 01:57:08,647
would highlight as well there is

3643
01:57:08,647 --> 01:57:09,415
a public school, an elementary

3644
01:57:09,415 --> 01:57:11,383
school with parking.

3645
01:57:11,383 --> 01:57:11,684
And you can see the parking lot

3646
01:57:11,684 --> 01:57:13,684
there.

3647
01:57:15,187 --> 01:57:17,187
Next slide.

3648
01:57:18,924 --> 01:57:19,691
What's being proposed here,

3649
01:57:19,691 --> 01:57:20,250
single-family residential

3650
01:57:20,250 --> 01:57:20,892
duplex.

3651
01:57:20,892 --> 01:57:22,395
these will be platted as

3652
01:57:22,395 --> 01:57:22,728
single-family and sold fee

3653
01:57:22,728 --> 01:57:24,296
simple.

3654
01:57:24,296 --> 01:57:24,997
This is under agreement with

3655
01:57:24,997 --> 01:57:26,997
hillsborough county affordable

3656
01:57:27,233 --> 01:57:28,534
housing services to develop

3657
01:57:28,534 --> 01:57:30,934
affordable housing for homes

3658
01:57:33,238 --> 01:57:34,406
that are 80% ami and under only.

3659
01:57:34,406 --> 01:57:36,742
It is limited to that.

3660
01:57:36,742 --> 01:57:38,611
20 units total which meets the

3661
01:57:38,611 --> 01:57:40,679
12 units per acre density.

3662
01:57:40,679 --> 01:57:43,820
There are 10 fronting 23rd and

3663
01:57:43,820 --> 01:57:44,616
10 fronting 21st.

3664
01:57:44,616 --> 01:57:46,285
The development, as I mentioned,

3665
01:57:46,285 --> 01:57:49,121
will be subdivided and platted.

3666
01:57:49,121 --> 01:57:50,756
There's a 20-foot front setback,

3667
01:57:50,756 --> 01:57:53,156
6 feet interior between the

3668
01:57:53,726 --> 01:57:54,260
buildings, so it's 12 feet

3669
01:57:54,260 --> 01:57:56,260
total.

3670
01:57:56,863 --> 01:57:59,398
20-foot side street to north

3671
01:57:59,398 --> 01:58:02,998
65th and 26 feet to the east

3672
01:58:03,169 --> 01:58:03,436
side which is lots units 10 and

3673
01:58:03,436 --> 01:58:05,436
20.

3674
01:58:05,705 --> 01:58:07,707
We did include an additional

3675
01:58:07,707 --> 01:58:09,342
type "b" buffer, a 20-foot

3676
01:58:09,342 --> 01:58:10,676
buffer on the east side as well.

3677
01:58:10,676 --> 01:58:12,780
Not knowing what that future

3678
01:58:12,780 --> 01:58:15,130
development will be, so we

3679
01:58:15,130 --> 01:58:15,548
enhanced that buffer on that

3680
01:58:15,548 --> 01:58:17,548
side.

3681
01:58:17,650 --> 01:58:18,351
And there's large stormwater

3682
01:58:18,351 --> 01:58:20,586
area in the center of the

3683
01:58:20,586 --> 01:58:21,154
property which will then convey

3684
01:58:21,154 --> 01:58:23,122
to 65th.

3685
01:58:23,122 --> 01:58:25,122
Next slide.

3686
01:58:26,826 --> 01:58:28,261
This is the concept elevation as

3687
01:58:28,261 --> 01:58:30,261
of today.

3688
01:58:30,763 --> 01:58:32,398
It does resemble a single-family

3689
01:58:32,398 --> 01:58:32,699
home, however, those are two

3690
01:58:32,699 --> 01:58:34,699
units.

3691
01:58:36,769 --> 01:58:37,270
Each is approximately 1400 to

3692
01:58:37,270 --> 01:58:39,205
1450 square feet.

3693
01:58:39,205 --> 01:58:42,410
There's two units per building.

3694
01:58:42,410 --> 01:58:43,510
Each one will have three

3695
01:58:43,510 --> 01:58:45,445
bedroom, two to two and a half

3696
01:58:45,445 --> 01:58:46,446
bath and one car garage.

3697
01:58:46,446 --> 01:58:47,514
That's the front elevation and

3698
01:58:47,514 --> 01:58:48,982
that's the rear elevation.

3699
01:58:48,982 --> 01:58:51,685
So we're being careful to make

3700
01:58:51,685 --> 01:58:54,153
sure that both sides actually

3701
01:58:54,153 --> 01:58:57,153
have some ornamentation to them.

3702
01:58:59,926 --> 01:59:02,429
And in summary, next slide.

3703
01:59:02,429 --> 01:59:03,163
As I mentioned, what will be

3704
01:59:03,163 --> 01:59:05,497
developed is affordable housing

3705
01:59:05,497 --> 01:59:06,199
under an active agreement with

3706
01:59:06,199 --> 01:59:06,700
hillsborough county affordable

3707
01:59:06,700 --> 01:59:08,700
housing services.

3708
01:59:08,768 --> 01:59:09,669
The density is consistent with

3709
01:59:09,669 --> 01:59:11,972
r-12 land use category.

3710
01:59:11,972 --> 01:59:13,172
It is located within the urban

3711
01:59:13,172 --> 01:59:15,242
service boundary and serviced by

3712
01:59:15,242 --> 01:59:15,542
the city of tampa water and

3713
01:59:15,542 --> 01:59:16,877
sewer.

3714
01:59:16,877 --> 01:59:18,780
It's compatible with a mix of

3715
01:59:18,780 --> 01:59:18,777
existing residential,

3716
01:59:18,777 --> 01:59:20,147
commercial, institutional uses

3717
01:59:20,147 --> 01:59:22,547
in the surrounding areas.

3718
01:59:22,682 --> 01:59:23,784
It has been found consistent by

3719
01:59:23,784 --> 01:59:24,184
the hillsborough planning

3720
01:59:24,184 --> 01:59:26,184
commission.

3721
01:59:26,620 --> 01:59:27,553
We do agree with those findings.

3722
01:59:27,553 --> 01:59:29,489
Specifically, I would like to

3723
01:59:29,489 --> 01:59:31,158
note in the liveable communities

3724
01:59:31,158 --> 01:59:33,193
element under east lake orient

3725
01:59:33,193 --> 01:59:36,193
park which is this particular

3726
01:59:36,396 --> 01:59:37,664
community, it does note two

3727
01:59:37,664 --> 01:59:39,299
points in particular.

3728
01:59:39,299 --> 01:59:41,268
New residential development to

3729
01:59:41,268 --> 01:59:42,200
provide homeownership are

3730
01:59:42,200 --> 01:59:43,470
preferred, which these are going

3731
01:59:43,470 --> 01:59:45,870
to be fee simple.

3732
01:59:46,106 --> 01:59:46,740
And the plan also speaks to

3733
01:59:46,740 --> 01:59:47,974
support affordable housing

3734
01:59:47,974 --> 01:59:48,909
opportunities that accommodate a

3735
01:59:48,909 --> 01:59:50,376
diverse population and income

3736
01:59:50,376 --> 01:59:52,376
levels that promote

3737
01:59:53,747 --> 01:59:55,820
homeownership which this does.

3738
01:59:55,820 --> 01:59:56,917
This has also been recommended

3739
01:59:56,917 --> 01:59:57,918
as approvable by development

3740
01:59:57,918 --> 01:59:58,618
services staff with no

3741
01:59:58,618 --> 02:00:00,220
objections from other county

3742
02:00:00,220 --> 02:00:01,755
staff or external agencies.

3743
02:00:01,755 --> 02:00:02,389
We respectfully request your

3744
02:00:02,389 --> 02:00:03,257
approval.

3745
02:00:03,257 --> 02:00:03,524
>> hearing master: okay, thank

3746
02:00:03,524 --> 02:00:04,458
you.

3747
02:00:04,458 --> 02:00:05,225
>> thank you.

3748
02:00:05,225 --> 02:00:07,225
>> hearing master: development

3749
02:00:09,830 --> 02:00:11,164
services staff.

3750
02:00:11,164 --> 02:00:13,564
>> good evening, tim lampkin,

3751
02:00:13,567 --> 02:00:15,567
development services.

3752
02:00:16,403 --> 02:00:19,139
The applicant did a really

3753
02:00:19,139 --> 02:00:20,875
thorough overview so I'm going

3754
02:00:20,875 --> 02:00:23,275
to breeze through this.

3755
02:00:23,277 --> 02:00:25,677
They are proposing development

3756
02:00:26,447 --> 02:00:28,447
on approximately 1.71 acres

3757
02:00:28,582 --> 02:00:31,185
located on the northeast corner

3758
02:00:31,185 --> 02:00:33,254
of north 65th street and

3759
02:00:33,254 --> 02:00:35,254
21st avenue.

3760
02:00:35,656 --> 02:00:39,256
They are proposing to permit the

3761
02:00:40,261 --> 02:00:40,795
development of 20 affordable

3762
02:00:40,795 --> 02:00:42,795
duplexes.

3763
02:00:43,965 --> 02:00:45,832
The subject site has frontage

3764
02:00:45,832 --> 02:00:46,332
along east 23rd and east

3765
02:00:46,332 --> 02:00:48,332
21st street.

3766
02:00:48,802 --> 02:00:50,438
As the applicant stated with

3767
02:00:50,438 --> 02:00:51,672
the eastern property boundary

3768
02:00:51,672 --> 02:00:53,307
adjacent to vacant hillsborough

3769
02:00:53,307 --> 02:00:55,307
county owned property.

3770
02:00:55,476 --> 02:00:57,878
The property is surrounded by a

3771
02:00:57,878 --> 02:00:58,512
mix of existing residential,

3772
02:00:58,512 --> 02:01:00,512
commercial, institutional.

3773
02:01:02,483 --> 02:01:02,850
There's a school to the

3774
02:01:02,850 --> 02:01:04,118
southeast.

3775
02:01:04,118 --> 02:01:05,319
Duplex development is located to

3776
02:01:05,319 --> 02:01:07,319
the south.

3777
02:01:08,156 --> 02:01:08,489
The school is kinley elementary

3778
02:01:08,489 --> 02:01:09,690
school.

3779
02:01:09,690 --> 02:01:12,900
And commercial development is

3780
02:01:12,660 --> 02:01:13,727
located to the west with a

3781
02:01:13,727 --> 02:01:15,596
single-family residential to the

3782
02:01:15,596 --> 02:01:17,131
north and northwest.

3783
02:01:17,131 --> 02:01:18,232
Overall, the proposed

3784
02:01:18,232 --> 02:01:19,433
development provides an

3785
02:01:19,433 --> 02:01:21,433
appropriate transition between

3786
02:01:22,690 --> 02:01:24,469
the existing duplex development

3787
02:01:25,106 --> 02:01:25,807
to the south, the detached

3788
02:01:25,807 --> 02:01:27,807
single-family residential, to

3789
02:01:27,842 --> 02:01:28,943
the north and northwest.

3790
02:01:28,943 --> 02:01:30,478
The applicant has not proposed

3791
02:01:30,478 --> 02:01:32,246
any variations.

3792
02:01:32,246 --> 02:01:33,348
And based upon the

3793
02:01:33,348 --> 02:01:35,748
considerations, staff finds the

3794
02:01:35,850 --> 02:01:36,950
request approvable.

3795
02:01:36,950 --> 02:01:38,520
Unless you have any questions.

3796
02:01:38,520 --> 02:01:38,719
>> hearing master: no questions.

3797
02:01:38,719 --> 02:01:39,454
Thank you.

3798
02:01:39,454 --> 02:01:40,588
>> hearing master: planning

3799
02:01:40,588 --> 02:01:41,389
commission staff.

3800
02:01:41,389 --> 02:01:42,423
>> lily linehan, planning

3801
02:01:42,423 --> 02:01:44,423
commission staff.

3802
02:01:44,626 --> 02:01:45,326
The subject site is within the

3803
02:01:45,326 --> 02:01:46,694
residential 12 future land use

3804
02:01:46,694 --> 02:01:47,529
category within the urban

3805
02:01:47,529 --> 02:01:49,197
service area and within the

3806
02:01:49,197 --> 02:01:51,499
limits of the east lake orient

3807
02:01:51,499 --> 02:01:53,499
park community plan.

3808
02:01:54,235 --> 02:01:54,969
F.L.U.'s policy 3.1.3 requires

3809
02:01:54,969 --> 02:01:56,971
new development to be compatible

3810
02:01:56,971 --> 02:01:58,971
with surrounding uses.

3811
02:01:59,700 --> 02:02:01,876
And F.L.U. Objective 4.4 and

3812
02:02:01,876 --> 02:02:02,544
F.L.U. Policy 4.4.1 requires new

3813
02:02:02,544 --> 02:02:03,445
development to be compatible

3814
02:02:03,445 --> 02:02:04,312
with the surrounding

3815
02:02:04,312 --> 02:02:05,480
neighborhood.

3816
02:02:05,480 --> 02:02:07,282
The subject site currently

3817
02:02:07,282 --> 02:02:07,582
consists of undeveloped vacant

3818
02:02:07,582 --> 02:02:09,551
land.

3819
02:02:09,551 --> 02:02:10,118
There's single-family,

3820
02:02:10,118 --> 02:02:11,418
two-family residential

3821
02:02:11,418 --> 02:02:14,418
development in the adjacent area

3822
02:02:16,124 --> 02:02:16,658
with some existing

3823
02:02:16,658 --> 02:02:17,425
public/quasi-public

3824
02:02:17,425 --> 02:02:19,494
institutional uses and this mix

3825
02:02:19,494 --> 02:02:21,563
of surrounding land uses

3826
02:02:21,563 --> 02:02:23,331
establishes a land pattern that

3827
02:02:23,331 --> 02:02:25,731
supports two residential units.

3828
02:02:26,635 --> 02:02:27,369
And F.L.U. Objective 3.2 and

3829
02:02:27,369 --> 02:02:29,237
policy 3.2.4 require that

3830
02:02:29,237 --> 02:02:30,710
community plans throughout the

3831
02:02:30,710 --> 02:02:30,772
county be consistent with the

3832
02:02:30,772 --> 02:02:32,741
comprehensive plan.

3833
02:02:32,741 --> 02:02:33,909
And the housing goal of the east

3834
02:02:33,909 --> 02:02:36,144
lake orient park community plan

3835
02:02:36,144 --> 02:02:38,647
seeks to create more housing

3836
02:02:38,647 --> 02:02:40,716
opportunities within the area by

3837
02:02:40,716 --> 02:02:41,916
supporting affordable housing

3838
02:02:41,916 --> 02:02:43,552
opportunities that are used to

3839
02:02:43,552 --> 02:02:44,519
serve and accommodate a diverse

3840
02:02:44,519 --> 02:02:46,288
population and different income

3841
02:02:46,288 --> 02:02:47,550
levels and promote

3842
02:02:47,550 --> 02:02:48,290
homeownership.

3843
02:02:48,290 --> 02:02:50,792
It's also stated that new

3844
02:02:50,792 --> 02:02:52,427
residential developments that

3845
02:02:52,427 --> 02:02:53,962
provide homeownership are

3846
02:02:53,962 --> 02:02:54,329
preferred, however, they are not

3847
02:02:54,329 --> 02:02:56,131
required.

3848
02:02:56,131 --> 02:02:57,332
The addition of duplex style

3849
02:02:57,332 --> 02:02:59,732
residential development where it

3850
02:03:00,680 --> 02:03:00,836
currently exists alongside

3851
02:03:00,836 --> 02:03:01,837
single-family residential

3852
02:03:01,837 --> 02:03:03,138
development further promotes the

3853
02:03:03,138 --> 02:03:05,207
diversity of the existing

3854
02:03:05,207 --> 02:03:05,974
housing stock and provides

3855
02:03:05,974 --> 02:03:07,509
additional affordable housing

3856
02:03:07,509 --> 02:03:07,876
opportunities for community

3857
02:03:07,876 --> 02:03:09,876
residents.

3858
02:03:10,245 --> 02:03:11,680
And the request is for fee

3859
02:03:11,680 --> 02:03:12,781
simple housing so that promotes

3860
02:03:12,781 --> 02:03:14,615
the additional homeownership

3861
02:03:14,615 --> 02:03:17,150
opportunities at an affordable

3862
02:03:17,786 --> 02:03:18,487
rate as explicitly required by

3863
02:03:18,487 --> 02:03:20,880
the community plan.

3864
02:03:20,880 --> 02:03:21,656
Based upon the above

3865
02:03:21,656 --> 02:03:22,725
considerations and following

3866
02:03:22,725 --> 02:03:23,458
goals, objectives and policies,

3867
02:03:23,458 --> 02:03:24,726
planning commission staff finds

3868
02:03:24,726 --> 02:03:26,950
the proposed planned development

3869
02:03:26,950 --> 02:03:27,529
consistent with the

3870
02:03:27,529 --> 02:03:28,164
unincorporated hillsborough

3871
02:03:28,164 --> 02:03:29,265
county comprehensive plan

3872
02:03:29,265 --> 02:03:30,799
subject to the conditions

3873
02:03:30,799 --> 02:03:31,166
proposed by development

3874
02:03:31,166 --> 02:03:33,166
services.

3875
02:03:33,235 --> 02:03:33,502
>> hearing master: okay, thank

3876
02:03:33,502 --> 02:03:35,370
you.

3877
02:03:35,370 --> 02:03:36,205
At this point in time, is there

3878
02:03:36,205 --> 02:03:37,172
anyone in the audience that

3879
02:03:37,172 --> 02:03:40,772
wishes to speak in support of

3880
02:03:41,210 --> 02:03:43,210
the application?

3881
02:03:44,713 --> 02:03:45,681
>> MAY I speak, please?

3882
02:03:45,681 --> 02:03:47,681
>> hearing master: ma'am.

3883
02:03:48,830 --> 02:03:48,751
>> I'm patricia blanton, I live

3884
02:03:48,751 --> 02:03:51,530
right across the street from

3885
02:03:51,530 --> 02:03:51,754
where they want to --

3886
02:03:51,754 --> 02:03:52,220
>> hearing master: ma'am.

3887
02:03:52,220 --> 02:03:53,220
>> yes, sir.

3888
02:03:53,220 --> 02:03:55,625
>> hearing master: are you here

3889
02:03:55,625 --> 02:03:56,250
in support or here in

3890
02:03:56,250 --> 02:03:56,959
opposition?

3891
02:03:56,959 --> 02:03:58,427
>> I live on 23rd avenue.

3892
02:03:58,427 --> 02:04:00,895
And what they want to do is

3893
02:04:00,895 --> 02:04:03,432
right in front of my house.

3894
02:04:03,432 --> 02:04:05,267
What they want to do is put a

3895
02:04:05,267 --> 02:04:07,136
project there.

3896
02:04:07,136 --> 02:04:08,437
>> hearing master: ma'am, I need

3897
02:04:08,437 --> 02:04:10,437
to hear --

3898
02:04:14,430 --> 02:04:14,776
>> I can't hear, sir.

3899
02:04:14,776 --> 02:04:15,478
>> hearing master: michelle,

3900
02:04:15,478 --> 02:04:17,313
could you -- maybe if you get

3901
02:04:17,313 --> 02:04:21,513
closer to her and ask her if

3902
02:04:24,619 --> 02:04:25,288
she's in support or opposition.

3903
02:04:25,288 --> 02:04:27,288
>> I oppose.

3904
02:04:37,320 --> 02:04:38,340
>> hearing master: hold on.

3905
02:04:38,340 --> 02:04:40,360
>> no one is here to oppose it,

3906
02:04:40,360 --> 02:04:40,370
they are just going to push it

3907
02:04:40,370 --> 02:04:41,805
through.

3908
02:04:41,805 --> 02:04:43,105
>> you are here for the

3909
02:04:43,105 --> 02:04:43,473
application that was just

3910
02:04:43,473 --> 02:04:44,841
presented?

3911
02:04:44,841 --> 02:04:45,140
>> the one they just talked

3912
02:04:45,140 --> 02:04:45,541
about.

3913
02:04:45,541 --> 02:04:47,541
>> okay.

3914
02:04:47,910 --> 02:04:49,545
And are you here to talk in

3915
02:04:49,545 --> 02:04:51,214
support or opposition?

3916
02:04:51,214 --> 02:04:51,614
>> I oppose it.

3917
02:04:51,614 --> 02:04:53,614
>> okay.

3918
02:04:54,918 --> 02:04:57,220
I think he's going to first call

3919
02:04:57,220 --> 02:04:57,887
for support.

3920
02:04:57,887 --> 02:04:58,655
>> hearing master: yes.

3921
02:04:58,655 --> 02:05:01,550
>> you're for opposition, so

3922
02:05:02,692 --> 02:05:03,920
just stay close.

3923
02:05:03,920 --> 02:05:04,460
>> okay.

3924
02:05:04,460 --> 02:05:04,828
>> hearing master: just give it

3925
02:05:04,828 --> 02:05:05,328
a sec.

3926
02:05:05,328 --> 02:05:06,762
>> I'm sorry.

3927
02:05:06,762 --> 02:05:10,362
I've been sitting here since you

3928
02:05:10,899 --> 02:05:11,668
opened the doors.

3929
02:05:11,668 --> 02:05:12,736
>> hearing master: understood.

3930
02:05:12,736 --> 02:05:13,837
>> my ticket is running.

3931
02:05:13,837 --> 02:05:15,171
>> hearing master: there's

3932
02:05:15,171 --> 02:05:16,373
probably not anybody here in

3933
02:05:16,373 --> 02:05:19,643
support, but let me just ask.

3934
02:05:19,643 --> 02:05:20,844
>> I wish you could --

3935
02:05:20,844 --> 02:05:21,777
>> hearing master: ma'am.

3936
02:05:21,777 --> 02:05:25,377
Is there anyone in the audience

3937
02:05:26,216 --> 02:05:26,615
wish to speak in support of the

3938
02:05:26,615 --> 02:05:28,185
application?

3939
02:05:28,185 --> 02:05:28,718
No one responding.

3940
02:05:28,718 --> 02:05:30,718
All right, ma'am.

3941
02:05:32,221 --> 02:05:32,622
Now you wish to speak in

3942
02:05:32,622 --> 02:05:33,523
opposition?

3943
02:05:33,523 --> 02:05:34,291
>> you can come on.

3944
02:05:34,291 --> 02:05:36,691
>> hearing master: ma'am, you

3945
02:05:39,290 --> 02:05:39,396
can speak now.

3946
02:05:39,396 --> 02:05:40,230
>> hi.

3947
02:05:40,230 --> 02:05:42,630
>> hearing master: good evening.

3948
02:05:42,866 --> 02:05:43,667
>> I've been in the --

3949
02:05:43,667 --> 02:05:44,340
>> hearing master: ma'am, state

3950
02:05:44,340 --> 02:05:46,340
your name.

3951
02:05:47,136 --> 02:05:47,905
>> I was first grade in kinley.

3952
02:05:47,905 --> 02:05:48,605
Okay.

3953
02:05:48,605 --> 02:05:50,605
>> hearing master: ma'am.

3954
02:05:50,841 --> 02:05:52,900
>> I've seen so much destruction

3955
02:05:52,900 --> 02:05:52,809
here, I can't even tell you how

3956
02:05:52,809 --> 02:05:53,576
bad it is.

3957
02:05:53,576 --> 02:05:56,246
>> hearing master: can you get

3958
02:05:56,246 --> 02:05:56,913
her name for the record.

3959
02:05:56,913 --> 02:05:58,348
Hold on.

3960
02:05:58,348 --> 02:05:59,850
>> I'm sorry.

3961
02:05:59,850 --> 02:06:01,285
I wish I could hear better.

3962
02:06:01,285 --> 02:06:02,920
>> hearing master: that's fine.

3963
02:06:02,920 --> 02:06:03,720
>> state your name.

3964
02:06:03,720 --> 02:06:05,720
>> patricia blanton.

3965
02:06:07,900 --> 02:06:08,825
>> hearing master: and your

3966
02:06:08,825 --> 02:06:10,590
address.

3967
02:06:10,590 --> 02:06:11,695
>> where is the home you are

3968
02:06:11,695 --> 02:06:13,230
talking about?

3969
02:06:13,230 --> 02:06:15,630
>> I'm talking about the

3970
02:06:16,166 --> 02:06:16,499
property on 23rd and 65th

3971
02:06:16,499 --> 02:06:18,499
street.

3972
02:06:18,569 --> 02:06:20,969
>> what is your address?

3973
02:06:22,840 --> 02:06:23,539
>> mine is 6502 23rd avenue.

3974
02:06:23,539 --> 02:06:23,907
>> hearing master: great.

3975
02:06:23,907 --> 02:06:25,907
Go ahead.

3976
02:06:26,243 --> 02:06:28,643
Now you can speak.

3977
02:06:30,800 --> 02:06:32,149
>> last week alone, last week

3978
02:06:32,149 --> 02:06:34,885
alone 65th street they came in

3979
02:06:34,885 --> 02:06:37,820
with bulldozers and just raped

3980
02:06:37,820 --> 02:06:41,125
an area of trees that are like

3981
02:06:41,125 --> 02:06:43,860
over 200 years old, you know.

3982
02:06:43,860 --> 02:06:46,163
In one day, they are all gone.

3983
02:06:46,163 --> 02:06:49,333
They put a sign on the fence

3984
02:06:49,333 --> 02:06:52,169
over the weekend that the

3985
02:06:52,169 --> 02:06:52,803
environmental people were

3986
02:06:52,803 --> 02:06:54,803
approved of burning.

3987
02:06:55,206 --> 02:06:56,740
Not only did they rape the

3988
02:06:56,740 --> 02:06:57,408
trees, but then they wanted to

3989
02:06:57,408 --> 02:06:59,408
burn them.

3990
02:07:00,244 --> 02:07:01,679
I lost it.

3991
02:07:01,679 --> 02:07:02,646
I went and called the

3992
02:07:02,646 --> 02:07:04,646
environmental people.

3993
02:07:04,849 --> 02:07:06,250
Oh, it's been approved already

3994
02:07:06,250 --> 02:07:06,917
on the west side.

3995
02:07:06,917 --> 02:07:08,917
Well, guess what.

3996
02:07:12,189 --> 02:07:12,490
All the houses are on the east

3997
02:07:12,490 --> 02:07:14,490
side.

3998
02:07:14,792 --> 02:07:15,893
Flakes go up, houses would.

3999
02:07:15,893 --> 02:07:17,762
Bye-bye my home.

4000
02:07:17,762 --> 02:07:18,620
Now they want to put a bunch of

4001
02:07:18,620 --> 02:07:19,496
homes.

4002
02:07:19,496 --> 02:07:20,631
They want to put projects in

4003
02:07:20,631 --> 02:07:23,310
front of my house.

4004
02:07:24,202 --> 02:07:24,635
That's what they really want to

4005
02:07:24,635 --> 02:07:26,635
do, you know.

4006
02:07:28,538 --> 02:07:30,641
That whole area is just -- the

4007
02:07:30,641 --> 02:07:32,410
state road department was there.

4008
02:07:32,410 --> 02:07:35,410
They killed the water there.

4009
02:07:36,681 --> 02:07:38,750
And they moved down the '70s

4010
02:07:38,750 --> 02:07:39,851
so the lot has been empty, thank

4011
02:07:39,851 --> 02:07:41,686
GOD.

4012
02:07:41,686 --> 02:07:43,788
It used to be woods there.

4013
02:07:43,788 --> 02:07:45,656
You could swim at the end of the

4014
02:07:45,656 --> 02:07:47,392
street, natural springwater.

4015
02:07:47,392 --> 02:07:48,593
Well, they filled it in.

4016
02:07:48,593 --> 02:07:51,229
You know what they said?

4017
02:07:51,229 --> 02:07:53,297
I was a little girl.

4018
02:07:53,297 --> 02:07:56,340
I asked my mother, why don't

4019
02:07:56,340 --> 02:07:56,334
these people do something about

4020
02:07:56,334 --> 02:07:58,334
this?

4021
02:07:58,870 --> 02:08:02,273
I went as a little girl to this

4022
02:08:02,273 --> 02:08:04,909
guy, what are you doing?

4023
02:08:04,909 --> 02:08:05,877
We are swimming.

4024
02:08:05,877 --> 02:08:07,780
On top of the water the fish

4025
02:08:07,780 --> 02:08:09,780
were dead.

4026
02:08:09,280 --> 02:08:11,683
Oh, he says, oh, mother nature

4027
02:08:11,683 --> 02:08:13,551
will take care of itself.

4028
02:08:13,551 --> 02:08:15,551
Well, guess what.

4029
02:08:17,956 --> 02:08:18,690
They came in, filled it in with

4030
02:08:18,690 --> 02:08:19,791
bricks.

4031
02:08:19,791 --> 02:08:21,493
The land sinks like this.

4032
02:08:21,493 --> 02:08:21,793
There's a natural spring under

4033
02:08:21,793 --> 02:08:23,428
there.

4034
02:08:23,428 --> 02:08:25,300
There's going to be a sinkhole

4035
02:08:25,300 --> 02:08:28,566
there because when it rains, you

4036
02:08:28,566 --> 02:08:29,668
can just see it, where it used

4037
02:08:29,668 --> 02:08:31,668
to be.

4038
02:08:33,605 --> 02:08:35,400
And now they want to put -- oh.

4039
02:08:35,400 --> 02:08:38,943
It hurts my heart to see what

4040
02:08:38,943 --> 02:08:39,376
they are doing to my

4041
02:08:39,376 --> 02:08:41,376
neighborhood.

4042
02:08:41,579 --> 02:08:41,913
I'm so mad right now I'm

4043
02:08:41,913 --> 02:08:43,913
shaking.

4044
02:08:45,417 --> 02:08:45,717
>> hearing master: I can tell.

4045
02:08:45,717 --> 02:08:47,520
Okay.

4046
02:08:47,520 --> 02:08:49,921
>> they are so just -- don't

4047
02:08:49,921 --> 02:08:52,321
they want to breathe?

4048
02:08:52,991 --> 02:08:55,991
There is four recycling plants

4049
02:08:57,280 --> 02:08:58,430
within a mile of my home.

4050
02:08:58,430 --> 02:09:00,830
I have skin cancers.

4051
02:09:01,166 --> 02:09:02,567
i have my own well.

4052
02:09:02,567 --> 02:09:04,967
The water is poisoned.

4053
02:09:05,170 --> 02:09:06,171
I have filters on the shower, in

4054
02:09:06,171 --> 02:09:07,406
the kitchen.

4055
02:09:07,406 --> 02:09:09,806
I buy bottled water.

4056
02:09:14,379 --> 02:09:14,680
I can't even drink my well

4057
02:09:14,680 --> 02:09:16,680
water.

4058
02:09:20,185 --> 02:09:20,552
And they want to put more

4059
02:09:20,552 --> 02:09:20,953
projects.

4060
02:09:20,953 --> 02:09:22,921
What?

4061
02:09:22,921 --> 02:09:23,222
They didn't want more in the

4062
02:09:23,222 --> 02:09:25,222
city?

4063
02:09:25,991 --> 02:09:26,424
They are moving down to my

4064
02:09:26,424 --> 02:09:28,424
neighborhood.

4065
02:09:29,728 --> 02:09:30,929
Nobody is speaking up.

4066
02:09:30,929 --> 02:09:31,797
It's like close your eyes and

4067
02:09:31,797 --> 02:09:33,432
guess what.

4068
02:09:33,432 --> 02:09:35,167
The next day, the next week,

4069
02:09:35,167 --> 02:09:36,670
they are all gone, all those

4070
02:09:36,670 --> 02:09:38,670
trees are gone.

4071
02:09:40,538 --> 02:09:40,873
I went to that man's face this

4072
02:09:40,873 --> 02:09:42,708
morning.

4073
02:09:42,708 --> 02:09:43,809
I was shaking, I was so mad.

4074
02:09:43,809 --> 02:09:46,809
I said don't you burn.

4075
02:09:47,880 --> 02:09:49,180
Please don't burn.

4076
02:09:49,180 --> 02:09:52,180
Recycle, grind those trees up,

4077
02:09:53,986 --> 02:09:57,156
make them into mulch, you know.

4078
02:09:57,156 --> 02:09:57,456
Off of 41, you could take it

4079
02:09:57,456 --> 02:09:58,557
there.

4080
02:09:58,557 --> 02:10:01,760
You know why they didn't want to

4081
02:10:01,760 --> 02:10:05,163
do it that way, because it's the

4082
02:10:05,163 --> 02:10:08,163
quickest, cheapest way of doing

4083
02:10:09,100 --> 02:10:09,668
it.

4084
02:10:09,668 --> 02:10:10,403
>> hearing master: okay.

4085
02:10:10,403 --> 02:10:10,970
>> I'm done.

4086
02:10:10,970 --> 02:10:12,970
I don't know.

4087
02:10:13,538 --> 02:10:14,974
Because in my words, wasting my

4088
02:10:14,974 --> 02:10:17,974
time being here because nobody

4089
02:10:18,311 --> 02:10:18,744
is going to stand up for my

4090
02:10:18,744 --> 02:10:20,446
neighborhood.

4091
02:10:20,446 --> 02:10:21,681
Hey, tell them to wait until 10

4092
02:10:21,681 --> 02:10:23,683
years and I'll be gone and I

4093
02:10:23,683 --> 02:10:24,450
don't have to watch it.

4094
02:10:24,450 --> 02:10:26,850
But you know what.

4095
02:10:27,619 --> 02:10:28,154
My son and my family, that was

4096
02:10:28,154 --> 02:10:30,154
my mother's house.

4097
02:10:30,790 --> 02:10:34,390
I was in that neighborhood when

4098
02:10:36,195 --> 02:10:38,595
I was 5 years old.

4099
02:10:38,598 --> 02:10:40,998
>> hearing master: thank you.

4100
02:10:42,367 --> 02:10:43,569
>> last hurricane on 65th

4101
02:10:43,569 --> 02:10:44,570
street, the people that built a

4102
02:10:44,570 --> 02:10:45,771
new house in the back, they

4103
02:10:45,771 --> 02:10:47,840
built it on a spring.

4104
02:10:47,840 --> 02:10:49,475
And guess what happened.

4105
02:10:49,475 --> 02:10:51,875
The spring rose up.

4106
02:10:53,746 --> 02:10:56,282
They were draining their lot for

4107
02:10:56,282 --> 02:10:59,282
two weeks down the thing.

4108
02:11:01,521 --> 02:11:01,788
And it hit the apartment halfway

4109
02:11:01,788 --> 02:11:03,622
up.

4110
02:11:03,622 --> 02:11:04,290
It's going to happen again.

4111
02:11:04,290 --> 02:11:05,491
>> hearing master: okay.

4112
02:11:05,491 --> 02:11:07,160
>> I had to laugh because I used

4113
02:11:07,160 --> 02:11:10,196
to swim there and they filled it

4114
02:11:10,196 --> 02:11:13,666
in with cement and block and

4115
02:11:13,666 --> 02:11:14,330
built a house on it.

4116
02:11:14,330 --> 02:11:15,335
[Laughter]

4117
02:11:15,335 --> 02:11:19,535
It's all about the money and the

4118
02:11:19,806 --> 02:11:21,875
power in this town.

4119
02:11:21,875 --> 02:11:24,875
I'm a poor rich gal.

4120
02:11:27,247 --> 02:11:31,618
I don't owe anybody, but I don't -- I own my property and

4121
02:11:31,618 --> 02:11:32,285
my truck.

4122
02:11:32,285 --> 02:11:32,651
>> hearing master: yeah.

4123
02:11:32,651 --> 02:11:33,687
All right.

4124
02:11:33,687 --> 02:11:35,687
Thank you, ma'am.

4125
02:11:35,889 --> 02:11:37,957
>> they don't need that many

4126
02:11:37,957 --> 02:11:38,625
buildings in front of my house.

4127
02:11:38,625 --> 02:11:40,625
>> hearing master: okay.

4128
02:11:42,228 --> 02:11:42,895
>> come on!

4129
02:11:42,895 --> 02:11:43,396
>> hearing master: okay.

4130
02:11:43,396 --> 02:11:44,731
Thank you, ma'am.

4131
02:11:44,731 --> 02:11:47,330
>> what's going to happen with

4132
02:11:47,330 --> 02:11:49,330
all the --

4133
02:11:51,204 --> 02:11:53,506
you go down columbus drive on

4134
02:11:53,506 --> 02:11:56,342
65th street, they turned it

4135
02:11:56,342 --> 02:11:57,444
into trucker haven where all the

4136
02:11:57,444 --> 02:11:58,311
big rigs are.

4137
02:11:58,311 --> 02:12:00,413
And I was afraid.

4138
02:12:00,413 --> 02:12:01,114
That's why I was here today.

4139
02:12:01,114 --> 02:12:01,882
>> hearing master: ma'am.

4140
02:12:01,882 --> 02:12:03,250
>> I was afraid that they were

4141
02:12:03,250 --> 02:12:06,319
going to rezone it to where they

4142
02:12:06,319 --> 02:12:08,621
could allow to do that because

4143
02:12:08,621 --> 02:12:09,289
that's what they'll do.

4144
02:12:09,289 --> 02:12:10,123
>> hearing master: okay.

4145
02:12:10,123 --> 02:12:12,326
>> these truckers don't have any

4146
02:12:12,326 --> 02:12:12,658
place to sleep or park their

4147
02:12:12,658 --> 02:12:14,658
trucks.

4148
02:12:17,798 --> 02:12:18,131
They are parking it on 65th

4149
02:12:18,131 --> 02:12:18,899
street.

4150
02:12:18,899 --> 02:12:19,399
>> hearing master: all right.

4151
02:12:19,399 --> 02:12:19,766
thank you, ma'am.

4152
02:12:19,766 --> 02:12:21,766
Thank you.

4153
02:12:22,301 --> 02:12:23,102
>> I need to calm down.

4154
02:12:23,102 --> 02:12:24,271
>> hearing master: ma'am, let me

4155
02:12:24,271 --> 02:12:26,600
see if there's anyone else that

4156
02:12:26,600 --> 02:12:27,700
wishes to speak.

4157
02:12:27,700 --> 02:12:27,775
Ma'am, if I could get you to

4158
02:12:27,775 --> 02:12:29,309
sign in over here.

4159
02:12:29,309 --> 02:12:30,944
Sign your name over here.

4160
02:12:30,944 --> 02:12:31,678
>> I'm sorry, what?

4161
02:12:31,678 --> 02:12:32,679
>> hearing master: sign your

4162
02:12:32,679 --> 02:12:34,679
name over there.

4163
02:12:37,184 --> 02:12:37,484
>> sign it over there.

4164
02:12:37,484 --> 02:12:38,252
Yeah.

4165
02:12:38,252 --> 02:12:40,652
>> hearing master: thank you,

4166
02:12:44,858 --> 02:12:45,959
ma'am.

4167
02:12:45,959 --> 02:12:47,995
Is there anyone else in the

4168
02:12:47,995 --> 02:12:51,595
audience that wishes to speak in

4169
02:12:52,499 --> 02:12:53,801
opposition to the application?

4170
02:12:53,801 --> 02:12:55,636
No one responding.

4171
02:12:55,636 --> 02:12:56,737
Staff, anything further?

4172
02:12:56,737 --> 02:12:57,405
>> no, sir.

4173
02:12:57,405 --> 02:12:58,172
>> hearing master: okay.

4174
02:12:58,172 --> 02:13:01,172
The applicant has an opportunity

4175
02:13:02,542 --> 02:13:04,542
for rebuttal.

4176
02:13:04,745 --> 02:13:06,714
>> thank you.

4177
02:13:06,714 --> 02:13:07,470
Catherine coyle again for the

4178
02:13:07,470 --> 02:13:08,215
record.

4179
02:13:08,215 --> 02:13:10,217
As I mentioned previously, this

4180
02:13:10,217 --> 02:13:12,753
is under an agreement with

4181
02:13:12,753 --> 02:13:13,860
hillsborough cunty affordable

4182
02:13:13,860 --> 02:13:14,621
housing.

4183
02:13:14,621 --> 02:13:14,989
This will not be projects as

4184
02:13:14,989 --> 02:13:16,357
mentioned.

4185
02:13:16,357 --> 02:13:18,859
These are going to be fee simple

4186
02:13:18,859 --> 02:13:19,727
homes so they will be owned

4187
02:13:19,727 --> 02:13:21,727
individually, each unit.

4188
02:13:22,229 --> 02:13:24,629
There are 10 units facing

4189
02:13:25,966 --> 02:13:27,401
23rd, which is MS. Blanton's

4190
02:13:27,401 --> 02:13:29,236
street and 10 facing south.

4191
02:13:29,236 --> 02:13:31,105
All I can say is it is the

4192
02:13:31,105 --> 02:13:32,720
intent of the affordable housing

4193
02:13:32,720 --> 02:13:33,307
services department of the

4194
02:13:33,307 --> 02:13:34,942
county to improve this

4195
02:13:34,942 --> 02:13:36,942
neighborhood and establish

4196
02:13:38,112 --> 02:13:40,810
homeownership in this area, to

4197
02:13:40,810 --> 02:13:42,382
better solidify the improvements

4198
02:13:42,382 --> 02:13:43,384
in this area and not overbuild.

4199
02:13:43,384 --> 02:13:45,119
It does meet the density of the

4200
02:13:45,119 --> 02:13:47,119
comprehensive plan.

4201
02:13:47,722 --> 02:13:48,550
there is no additional bonus

4202
02:13:48,550 --> 02:13:49,560
sought.

4203
02:13:49,560 --> 02:13:50,591
There are no variances sought.

4204
02:13:50,591 --> 02:13:53,427
We have added additional buffers

4205
02:13:53,427 --> 02:13:55,930
to the east side and to the west

4206
02:13:55,930 --> 02:13:57,231
as well, 20 plus feet with

4207
02:13:57,231 --> 02:13:59,231
additional plantings.

4208
02:14:04,472 --> 02:14:07,800
And as you saw in the layout --

4209
02:14:07,800 --> 02:14:09,210
I can use the overhead.

4210
02:14:09,210 --> 02:14:10,812
This is, as mentioned -- I

4211
02:14:10,812 --> 02:14:11,579
cannot speak to the spring that

4212
02:14:11,579 --> 02:14:13,214
used to be there or anything.

4213
02:14:13,214 --> 02:14:15,182
But this is a volume sensitive

4214
02:14:15,182 --> 02:14:16,184
piece of property.

4215
02:14:16,184 --> 02:14:19,654
So there is a stormwater issue

4216
02:14:19,654 --> 02:14:22,560
out here which is why there is a

4217
02:14:22,560 --> 02:14:23,324
large stormwater pond planned

4218
02:14:23,324 --> 02:14:26,924
for the center of the project

4219
02:14:27,128 --> 02:14:28,662
that will convey to 65th.

4220
02:14:28,662 --> 02:14:31,399
This will again, as I mentioned,

4221
02:14:31,399 --> 02:14:33,234
tap into public water and sewer

4222
02:14:33,234 --> 02:14:34,469
with the city of tampa.

4223
02:14:34,469 --> 02:14:36,871
There are many properties in

4224
02:14:36,871 --> 02:14:37,672
this area to the north and the

4225
02:14:37,672 --> 02:14:40,720
surrounding area that don't

4226
02:14:41,109 --> 02:14:41,476
actually tap in to the public

4227
02:14:41,476 --> 02:14:42,644
utilities.

4228
02:14:42,644 --> 02:14:45,644
As mentioned by the neighbor,

4229
02:14:46,580 --> 02:14:47,482
with the well and the septic.

4230
02:14:47,482 --> 02:14:48,450
So I cannot speak to the

4231
02:14:48,450 --> 02:14:50,850
condition of her water.

4232
02:14:50,850 --> 02:14:51,860
I can say that they will be

4233
02:14:51,860 --> 02:14:54,686
serviced by the city of tampa

4234
02:14:56,758 --> 02:14:57,625
and not put any additional

4235
02:14:57,625 --> 02:14:59,160
impediments to her water.

4236
02:14:59,160 --> 02:15:00,829
>> hearing master: have you done

4237
02:15:00,829 --> 02:15:01,129
preliminary engineering on the

4238
02:15:01,129 --> 02:15:02,620
site?

4239
02:15:02,620 --> 02:15:04,966
>> we are working through that

4240
02:15:04,966 --> 02:15:05,834
now actually and this pond is

4241
02:15:05,834 --> 02:15:07,350
being sized accordingly.

4242
02:15:07,350 --> 02:15:08,470
>> hearing master: very done any

4243
02:15:08,470 --> 02:15:10,870
geo tech out here?

4244
02:15:11,720 --> 02:15:11,439
>> it was actually just

4245
02:15:11,439 --> 02:15:12,207
completed.

4246
02:15:12,207 --> 02:15:13,410
>> hearing master: all right.

4247
02:15:13,410 --> 02:15:13,842
Anything else?

4248
02:15:13,842 --> 02:15:15,842
>> that's it.

4249
02:15:16,111 --> 02:15:16,678
We just respectfully request

4250
02:15:16,678 --> 02:15:18,678
your recommendation.

4251
02:15:18,747 --> 02:15:19,470
>> hearing master: thank you,

4252
02:15:19,470 --> 02:15:21,470
ma'am.

4253
02:15:21,582 --> 02:15:21,982
With that, that concludes this

4254
02:15:21,982 --> 02:15:23,982
application.

4255
02:15:24,119 --> 02:15:26,955
Ready for the next item.

4256
02:15:26,955 --> 02:15:29,955
>> our next application is item

4257
02:15:30,259 --> 02:15:32,659
d-6, major mod 26-0800.

4258
02:15:33,195 --> 02:15:36,195
The applicant is requesting a

4259
02:15:37,366 --> 02:15:37,699
major modification to pd

4260
02:15:37,699 --> 02:15:39,434
97-0182.

4261
02:15:39,434 --> 02:15:41,403
This is traveling with a

4262
02:15:41,403 --> 02:15:42,471
comprehensive plan amendment

4263
02:15:42,471 --> 02:15:43,806
and, therefore, both the

4264
02:15:43,806 --> 02:15:45,574
comprehensive plan amendment and

4265
02:15:45,574 --> 02:15:48,811
this rezoning will be heard at

4266
02:15:48,811 --> 02:15:51,447
the OCTOBER 8th bocc cpa

4267
02:15:51,447 --> 02:15:52,114
public hearing.

4268
02:15:52,114 --> 02:15:54,114
>> hearing master: okay.

4269
02:15:55,984 --> 02:15:57,984
The applicant, please.

4270
02:16:02,358 --> 02:16:04,758
>> thank you, good evening.

4271
02:16:04,793 --> 02:16:05,527
Isabella hoff t.1000 north

4272
02:16:05,527 --> 02:16:07,620
ashley drive.

4273
02:16:07,620 --> 02:16:09,632
This is a little bit over

4274
02:16:09,632 --> 02:16:10,299
24-acre site located in the

4275
02:16:10,299 --> 02:16:12,299
thonotosassa community plan.

4276
02:16:12,868 --> 02:16:13,435
It is also in the rural service

4277
02:16:13,435 --> 02:16:15,370
area.

4278
02:16:15,370 --> 02:16:16,572
And as MS. Heinrich said, there

4279
02:16:16,572 --> 02:16:18,774
is a pending comprehensive plan

4280
02:16:18,774 --> 02:16:20,774
amendment to res-2.

4281
02:16:20,843 --> 02:16:23,843
And the zoning currently is

4282
02:16:24,345 --> 02:16:24,647
approved for 14 residential

4283
02:16:24,647 --> 02:16:25,448
lots.

4284
02:16:25,448 --> 02:16:28,284
>> hearing master: where are you

4285
02:16:28,284 --> 02:16:28,651
in the process with the plan

4286
02:16:28,651 --> 02:16:30,619
amendment?

4287
02:16:30,619 --> 02:16:31,854
>> we went through the first

4288
02:16:31,854 --> 02:16:33,456
public hearing of the planning

4289
02:16:33,456 --> 02:16:34,523
commission and now we're waiting

4290
02:16:34,523 --> 02:16:35,725
for the board.

4291
02:16:35,725 --> 02:16:36,592
>> hearing master: you went to

4292
02:16:36,592 --> 02:16:36,992
the planning commission.

4293
02:16:36,992 --> 02:16:37,593
>> yes.

4294
02:16:37,593 --> 02:16:37,993
We went to the planning

4295
02:16:37,993 --> 02:16:38,761
commission.

4296
02:16:38,761 --> 02:16:40,429
>> hearing master: and it was

4297
02:16:40,429 --> 02:16:42,932
heard and they voted on it?

4298
02:16:42,932 --> 02:16:44,330
>> it was heard and voted for

4299
02:16:44,330 --> 02:16:44,734
denial.

4300
02:16:44,734 --> 02:16:46,734
>> hearing master: denial.

4301
02:16:47,102 --> 02:16:47,770
>> yeah.

4302
02:16:47,770 --> 02:16:49,171
>> hearing master: okay.

4303
02:16:49,171 --> 02:16:49,272
>> and so if you look at the

4304
02:16:49,272 --> 02:16:51,272
-

4305
02:16:52,410 --> 02:16:53,876
area, the surrounding area is

4306
02:16:53,876 --> 02:16:55,876
mostly residential.

4307
02:16:56,512 --> 02:17:00,712
And the lot ranges -- the lot

4308
02:17:00,982 --> 02:17:03,185
size ranges from.2 acres to

4309
02:17:03,185 --> 02:17:05,185
over 5 or 10 acres.

4310
02:17:08,224 --> 02:17:08,991
The residential lots are located -- the more intensive

4311
02:17:08,991 --> 02:17:11,694
uses on the east side while the

4312
02:17:11,694 --> 02:17:14,330
west side is a bit more rural

4313
02:17:14,330 --> 02:17:17,634
and the south side is mostly

4314
02:17:17,634 --> 02:17:19,634
agricultural land.

4315
02:17:20,136 --> 02:17:21,805
So the request is for 30 units

4316
02:17:21,805 --> 02:17:23,805
from the approved 14.

4317
02:17:24,607 --> 02:17:25,842
The density is proposed at 1.2

4318
02:17:25,842 --> 02:17:28,842
dwelling units to the acre.

4319
02:17:29,245 --> 02:17:31,314
And this is to mimic currently

4320
02:17:31,314 --> 02:17:33,714
all the residential 1 mostly

4321
02:17:34,818 --> 02:17:36,818
surrounding the lake.

4322
02:17:37,120 --> 02:17:40,720
And prior to the comp plan

4323
02:17:41,570 --> 02:17:43,126
amendment, the site is about 65%

4324
02:17:43,126 --> 02:17:44,940
of the site is already

4325
02:17:44,940 --> 02:17:45,427
residential 1 while the rear

4326
02:17:45,427 --> 02:17:47,427
portion is ar.

4327
02:17:52,680 --> 02:17:53,370
So the request was for r-2 to

4328
02:17:53,370 --> 02:17:55,380
allow for development for less

4329
02:17:55,380 --> 02:17:56,439
than an acre development.

4330
02:17:56,439 --> 02:17:58,642
What you can see also is with

4331
02:17:58,642 --> 02:17:59,942
the new stormwater rules, it

4332
02:17:59,942 --> 02:18:00,310
takes a large portion of the

4333
02:18:00,310 --> 02:18:01,677
property.

4334
02:18:01,677 --> 02:18:03,145
So, therefore, the development

4335
02:18:03,145 --> 02:18:03,980
is kind of like being pushed in

4336
02:18:03,980 --> 02:18:05,182
the back.

4337
02:18:05,182 --> 02:18:07,500
That's why we are requesting

4338
02:18:07,500 --> 02:18:07,984
that half acre lots.

4339
02:18:07,984 --> 02:18:09,219
However, it's still going to be

4340
02:18:09,219 --> 02:18:12,219
the density that's similar to

4341
02:18:12,289 --> 02:18:13,723
the surrounding area.

4342
02:18:13,723 --> 02:18:16,123
Development services staff found

4343
02:18:16,660 --> 02:18:17,427
it compatible with the

4344
02:18:17,427 --> 02:18:19,427
surrounding area.

4345
02:18:19,830 --> 02:18:20,697
Planning commission, they found

4346
02:18:20,697 --> 02:18:22,697
it inconsistent.

4347
02:18:24,434 --> 02:18:27,270
Mostly when you read the report,

4348
02:18:27,270 --> 02:18:28,171
they basically say that the

4349
02:18:28,171 --> 02:18:31,771
nothing in the rural area should

4350
02:18:31,975 --> 02:18:33,443
be less than 5 acres, one unit

4351
02:18:33,443 --> 02:18:35,450
to 5 acres as shown on the land

4352
02:18:35,450 --> 02:18:36,580
use map.

4353
02:18:36,580 --> 02:18:38,982
However, our site, like I said,

4354
02:18:38,982 --> 02:18:39,982
of about 15 acres is already

4355
02:18:39,982 --> 02:18:40,717
residential 1 plus the 9-acre

4356
02:18:40,717 --> 02:18:42,717
was the ar.

4357
02:18:43,453 --> 02:18:44,555
But the amendment is for

4358
02:18:44,555 --> 02:18:46,955
residential 2 which is 2 units

4359
02:18:48,258 --> 02:18:49,159
to the acre permitting over 40

4360
02:18:49,159 --> 02:18:51,159
units.

4361
02:18:51,261 --> 02:18:52,429
But we're just limiting it to 30

4362
02:18:52,429 --> 02:18:54,429
units.

4363
02:18:56,800 --> 02:18:58,869
They also found naming different

4364
02:18:58,869 --> 02:19:00,869
policies, 3.1.3 and 4.4.1.

4365
02:19:01,405 --> 02:19:02,172
They kept referencing that the

4366
02:19:02,172 --> 02:19:03,374
density is not compatible with

4367
02:19:03,374 --> 02:19:05,374
the area.

4368
02:19:07,211 --> 02:19:08,612
And, therefore, they found it

4369
02:19:08,612 --> 02:19:10,612
inconsistent.

4370
02:19:11,815 --> 02:19:13,984
They also at the same time found

4371
02:19:13,984 --> 02:19:15,953
that the lots for policy

4372
02:19:15,953 --> 02:19:18,822
4.4.7 -- that the lots around

4373
02:19:18,822 --> 02:19:20,991
the lake are mostly one unit to

4374
02:19:20,991 --> 02:19:21,925
the acre and therefore the land

4375
02:19:21,925 --> 02:19:23,727
fronting the lake should not

4376
02:19:23,727 --> 02:19:24,695
have a density greater than one

4377
02:19:24,695 --> 02:19:26,697
unit pr the acre.

4378
02:19:26,697 --> 02:19:29,970
And because we're doing 1.2,

4379
02:19:30,266 --> 02:19:30,568
they found it inconsistent with

4380
02:19:30,568 --> 02:19:31,936
that.

4381
02:19:31,936 --> 02:19:34,205
And the report goes on and on

4382
02:19:34,205 --> 02:19:36,607
and on just about that the

4383
02:19:36,607 --> 02:19:37,942
density is too intense for the

4384
02:19:37,942 --> 02:19:40,344
area, yet you're supposed to

4385
02:19:40,344 --> 02:19:42,413
review it as a residential 2

4386
02:19:42,413 --> 02:19:44,215
which is two units to the acre.

4387
02:19:44,215 --> 02:19:46,350
And so you go to page 4, they

4388
02:19:46,350 --> 02:19:47,485
keep talking about the proposed

4389
02:19:47,485 --> 02:19:48,853
density is not compatible with

4390
02:19:48,853 --> 02:19:49,954
the existing development

4391
02:19:49,954 --> 02:19:52,354
pattern, even though there's

4392
02:19:53,391 --> 02:19:56,294
lots of smaller sites all along

4393
02:19:56,294 --> 02:19:58,294
the lake.

4394
02:19:58,930 --> 02:20:00,131
They talk about again the

4395
02:20:00,131 --> 02:20:00,864
density, the development

4396
02:20:00,864 --> 02:20:01,232
proposed is not compatible with

4397
02:20:01,232 --> 02:20:03,232
the area.

4398
02:20:04,735 --> 02:20:05,436
And they talk about saying

4399
02:20:05,436 --> 02:20:06,604
that -- I don't know how they

4400
02:20:06,604 --> 02:20:08,473
came up to that, but the

4401
02:20:08,473 --> 02:20:10,873
immediate surrounding area on

4402
02:20:12,760 --> 02:20:13,911
average is density of one per 45 acres.

4403
02:20:13,911 --> 02:20:15,680
Again, I don't exactly now

4404
02:20:15,680 --> 02:20:16,748
know how

4405
02:20:16,748 --> 02:20:18,649
they calculated that.

4406
02:20:18,649 --> 02:20:23,220
So they go on and on about that.

4407
02:20:23,220 --> 02:20:24,856
And then they go to the

4408
02:20:24,856 --> 02:20:26,557
community plan and naming, you

4409
02:20:26,557 --> 02:20:30,757
know, the third goal is that we

4410
02:20:33,932 --> 02:20:37,969
are not meeting the -- I was

4411
02:20:37,969 --> 02:20:38,303
just a bit baffled by the staff

4412
02:20:38,303 --> 02:20:39,938
report.

4413
02:20:39,938 --> 02:20:42,340
When we looked at it, we felt

4414
02:20:42,340 --> 02:20:43,675
like we met all those policies

4415
02:20:43,675 --> 02:20:46,675
that even they had stated.

4416
02:20:47,450 --> 02:20:48,460
We felt like we met those

4417
02:20:48,460 --> 02:20:50,480
policies under the res-2 which

4418
02:20:50,480 --> 02:20:52,217
allows half acre lots, which

4419
02:20:52,217 --> 02:20:53,518
allows two units to the acre and

4420
02:20:53,518 --> 02:20:55,518
everything.

4421
02:20:56,186 --> 02:20:58,423
And so it also per the community

4422
02:20:58,423 --> 02:21:00,392
plan provides a different

4423
02:21:00,392 --> 02:21:01,920
housing style that meets the

4424
02:21:01,920 --> 02:21:03,920
goal number 4.

4425
02:21:03,561 --> 02:21:08,650
It also as you can see on our

4426
02:21:08,650 --> 02:21:08,767
plan, it was protecting the

4427
02:21:08,767 --> 02:21:10,350
environmental features of the

4428
02:21:10,350 --> 02:21:11,903
site which is what we are doing

4429
02:21:11,903 --> 02:21:14,172
on the north side of the

4430
02:21:14,172 --> 02:21:16,172
thonotosassa road.

4431
02:21:17,242 --> 02:21:18,410
And so with that, we felt like

4432
02:21:18,410 --> 02:21:21,410
looking at all those policies

4433
02:21:22,481 --> 02:21:24,449
that we do feel like the request

4434
02:21:24,449 --> 02:21:26,751
pd is consistent with the

4435
02:21:26,751 --> 02:21:29,151
residential 2 future land use.

4436
02:21:29,721 --> 02:21:30,455
And so this kind of concludes my

4437
02:21:30,455 --> 02:21:30,889
application and my presentation

4438
02:21:30,889 --> 02:21:32,557
for now.

4439
02:21:32,557 --> 02:21:32,924
But I'm here if you have any

4440
02:21:32,924 --> 02:21:33,692
questions.

4441
02:21:33,692 --> 02:21:34,580
>> hearing master: all right,

4442
02:21:34,580 --> 02:21:35,626
thank you.

4443
02:21:35,626 --> 02:21:36,395
>> thank you.

4444
02:21:36,395 --> 02:21:38,395
>> hearing master: development

4445
02:21:52,477 --> 02:21:54,213
services staff.

4446
02:21:54,213 --> 02:21:55,214
>> good evening, tania chapela,

4447
02:21:55,214 --> 02:21:57,214
development services.

4448
02:21:57,949 --> 02:22:00,785
I'm presenting a revised report

4449
02:22:00,785 --> 02:22:03,922
with changes to the cpa number

4450
02:22:03,922 --> 02:22:06,922
that was incorrect in the

4451
02:22:08,861 --> 02:22:12,461
first -- it was prior to

4452
02:22:13,132 --> 02:22:14,990
certification condition, I'm

4453
02:22:14,990 --> 02:22:16,990
sorry.

4454
02:22:16,635 --> 02:22:18,170
Pd 26-0800 is a major

4455
02:22:18,170 --> 02:22:19,805
modification to increase the

4456
02:22:19,805 --> 02:22:22,205
approved development from 14 to

4457
02:22:22,207 --> 02:22:24,176
a maximum of 30 single-family

4458
02:22:24,176 --> 02:22:26,176
detached dwelling units.

4459
02:22:27,780 --> 02:22:29,415
The approximately 1.24 units per

4460
02:22:29,415 --> 02:22:32,415
acre density is below the

4461
02:22:32,618 --> 02:22:33,352
maximum anticipated under the

4462
02:22:33,352 --> 02:22:35,752
res-2 future land use

4463
02:22:36,422 --> 02:22:38,189
designation proposed through

4464
02:22:38,189 --> 02:22:39,925
concurrent cpa 26-10.

4465
02:22:39,925 --> 02:22:42,325
The development would provide

4466
02:22:43,195 --> 02:22:44,530
minimum half acre lots.

4467
02:22:44,530 --> 02:22:47,530
90-foot lot widths and maximum

4468
02:22:48,367 --> 02:22:49,602
building height of 35 feet and

4469
02:22:49,602 --> 02:22:52,200
residential setbacks intended to

4470
02:22:53,406 --> 02:22:53,773
maintain the area's low density

4471
02:22:53,773 --> 02:22:55,707
character.

4472
02:22:55,707 --> 02:22:57,777
The site is within thonotosassa

4473
02:22:57,777 --> 02:23:00,777
community plan area and is

4474
02:23:01,280 --> 02:23:02,381
surrounded by primarily vacant

4475
02:23:02,381 --> 02:23:04,149
agricultural and single-family

4476
02:23:04,149 --> 02:23:06,118
residential properties.

4477
02:23:06,118 --> 02:23:07,320
Staff finds the proposed use and

4478
02:23:07,320 --> 02:23:09,320
development standards comparable

4479
02:23:09,956 --> 02:23:10,289
to the surrounding residential

4480
02:23:10,289 --> 02:23:11,990
pattern.

4481
02:23:11,990 --> 02:23:14,193
The wetland area north of

4482
02:23:14,193 --> 02:23:16,596
thonotosassa road would remain a

4483
02:23:16,596 --> 02:23:19,596
private common area with limited

4484
02:23:20,767 --> 02:23:22,602
passive recreational use and no

4485
02:23:22,602 --> 02:23:24,370
private pleasure craft access.

4486
02:23:24,370 --> 02:23:26,370
The environmental permitting

4487
02:23:26,439 --> 02:23:26,739
requirements would continue to

4488
02:23:26,739 --> 02:23:28,541
apply.

4489
02:23:28,541 --> 02:23:30,420
Based on this consideration,

4490
02:23:30,420 --> 02:23:31,910
staff finds the request

4491
02:23:31,910 --> 02:23:33,880
compatible with the surrounding

4492
02:23:33,880 --> 02:23:35,515
area and recommends approval

4493
02:23:35,515 --> 02:23:35,915
subject to the proposed

4494
02:23:35,915 --> 02:23:36,816
conditions.

4495
02:23:36,816 --> 02:23:37,830
>> hearing master: okay, thank

4496
02:23:37,830 --> 02:23:38,584
you.

4497
02:23:38,584 --> 02:23:39,419
Planning commission staff.

4498
02:23:39,419 --> 02:23:40,986
>> lily linehan, planning

4499
02:23:40,986 --> 02:23:42,422
commission staff.

4500
02:23:42,422 --> 02:23:45,422
This rezoning is concurrent with

4501
02:23:46,240 --> 02:23:48,940
the comprehensive plan amendment

4502
02:23:48,940 --> 02:23:50,964
hc/cpa 26-10 which is a request

4503
02:23:50,964 --> 02:23:52,932
to change the future land use to

4504
02:23:52,932 --> 02:23:54,100
residential 2.

4505
02:23:54,100 --> 02:23:55,702
This has been reviewed as it

4506
02:23:55,702 --> 02:23:56,268
holds the residential 2 future

4507
02:23:56,268 --> 02:23:57,203
land use designation.

4508
02:23:57,203 --> 02:23:58,405
The site is within the rural

4509
02:23:58,405 --> 02:24:01,106
area and within the limits of

4510
02:24:01,106 --> 02:24:03,506
the thonotosassa community plan.

4511
02:24:05,712 --> 02:24:07,914
F.L.U. Objective 1.2 and 1.2.1

4512
02:24:07,914 --> 02:24:10,317
and 1.2.2 defines rural area for

4513
02:24:10,317 --> 02:24:11,851
long-term agricultural uses,

4514
02:24:11,851 --> 02:24:12,953
large lot uses and undeveloped

4515
02:24:12,953 --> 02:24:14,953
natural areas.

4516
02:24:15,488 --> 02:24:18,191
The major modification is for 30

4517
02:24:18,191 --> 02:24:18,925
single-family units on

4518
02:24:18,925 --> 02:24:20,600
34.22 acres.

4519
02:24:20,600 --> 02:24:21,610
Based on the pending land use

4520
02:24:21,610 --> 02:24:23,610
change to residential 2.

4521
02:24:24,731 --> 02:24:26,366
While the single-family use is

4522
02:24:26,366 --> 02:24:27,534
compatible with the character,

4523
02:24:27,534 --> 02:24:28,935
the density is not compatible

4524
02:24:28,935 --> 02:24:30,437
with the existing rural

4525
02:24:30,437 --> 02:24:32,405
character of the area and based

4526
02:24:32,405 --> 02:24:33,473
on initial staff calculations,

4527
02:24:33,473 --> 02:24:35,873
the immediate surrounding area

4528
02:24:36,143 --> 02:24:37,544
is on average ata density of 1

4529
02:24:37,544 --> 02:24:40,380
dwelling unit per 45 acres with

4530
02:24:40,380 --> 02:24:41,581
the surrounding uses being large

4531
02:24:41,581 --> 02:24:43,216
agricultural rural lots and low

4532
02:24:43,216 --> 02:24:44,284
density residential.

4533
02:24:44,284 --> 02:24:46,620
Additional analysis was done on

4534
02:24:46,620 --> 02:24:49,456
the stone lake ranch area in

4535
02:24:49,456 --> 02:24:50,557
development which is

4536
02:24:50,557 --> 02:24:52,359
approximately 2,100 feet west of

4537
02:24:52,359 --> 02:24:54,361
the subject site and located on

4538
02:24:54,361 --> 02:24:54,795
the west side of lake

4539
02:24:54,795 --> 02:24:56,363
thonotosassa.

4540
02:24:56,363 --> 02:24:59,963
The density of the stone lake

4541
02:25:00,601 --> 02:25:03,100
ranch development equates to

4542
02:25:03,337 --> 02:25:05,737
approximately one dwelling unit

4543
02:25:06,640 --> 02:25:07,841
to 4 gross acres and clustered.

4544
02:25:07,841 --> 02:25:08,609
Based on the analysis of the

4545
02:25:08,609 --> 02:25:10,143
surrounding existing community,

4546
02:25:10,143 --> 02:25:11,879
the proposed density is not

4547
02:25:11,879 --> 02:25:13,947
compatible with the existing

4548
02:25:13,947 --> 02:25:15,947
rural community character.

4549
02:25:15,949 --> 02:25:18,218
Furthermore, F.L.U. Policy 4.4.7

4550
02:25:18,218 --> 02:25:20,870
calls for lands fronting a water

4551
02:25:20,870 --> 02:25:23,230
body to have density and/or

4552
02:25:23,230 --> 02:25:25,230
intensity comparable and

4553
02:25:26,427 --> 02:25:27,861
compatible with others and based

4554
02:25:27,861 --> 02:25:29,629
on the current existing future

4555
02:25:29,629 --> 02:25:31,364
land use categories that

4556
02:25:31,364 --> 02:25:33,100
surround lake thonotosassa, the

4557
02:25:33,100 --> 02:25:35,536
eastern portion of the lake has

4558
02:25:35,536 --> 02:25:36,704
the agricultural rule 1 to 5

4559
02:25:36,704 --> 02:25:38,239
designation and the western

4560
02:25:38,239 --> 02:25:38,872
portion is surrounded by the

4561
02:25:38,872 --> 02:25:40,174
residential 1 designation.

4562
02:25:40,174 --> 02:25:41,141
There are no future land use

4563
02:25:41,141 --> 02:25:43,844
categories along the lake that

4564
02:25:43,844 --> 02:25:45,579
have a density greater than one

4565
02:25:45,579 --> 02:25:46,981
dwelling unit per gross acre.

4566
02:25:46,981 --> 02:25:49,183
While there is a concurrent

4567
02:25:49,183 --> 02:25:51,151
future land use amendment for

4568
02:25:51,151 --> 02:25:53,151
the residential 2 designation,

4569
02:25:54,321 --> 02:25:55,856
F.L.U. Policy 4.4.7 calls for

4570
02:25:55,856 --> 02:25:56,824
comparable density along the

4571
02:25:56,824 --> 02:25:57,458
water bodies outside the urban

4572
02:25:57,458 --> 02:25:59,126
service area.

4573
02:25:59,126 --> 02:26:00,194
A portion fronts along the south

4574
02:26:00,194 --> 02:26:01,529
side of lake thonotosassa.

4575
02:26:01,529 --> 02:26:03,290
Based upon the maximum allowable

4576
02:26:03,290 --> 02:26:04,300
density per the surrounding

4577
02:26:04,300 --> 02:26:05,310
future land use designations,

4578
02:26:05,310 --> 02:26:07,201
the land fronting the lake

4579
02:26:07,201 --> 02:26:08,836
should not have a density that

4580
02:26:08,836 --> 02:26:09,770
exceeds one unit per acre in

4581
02:26:09,770 --> 02:26:10,805
order to be consistent with this

4582
02:26:10,805 --> 02:26:12,240
policy direction.

4583
02:26:12,240 --> 02:26:14,842
The subject site is located

4584
02:26:14,842 --> 02:26:15,610
within the boundaries of the

4585
02:26:15,610 --> 02:26:17,145
thonotosassa community plan.

4586
02:26:17,145 --> 02:26:18,446
Goal 3 of this plan emphasizes

4587
02:26:18,446 --> 02:26:20,648
the importance of maintaining

4588
02:26:20,648 --> 02:26:22,617
the area's rural residential

4589
02:26:22,617 --> 02:26:23,500
character, open space and

4590
02:26:23,500 --> 02:26:24,652
agricultural.

4591
02:26:24,652 --> 02:26:26,754
The proposed modification of 30

4592
02:26:26,754 --> 02:26:28,623
single-family units on half acre

4593
02:26:28,623 --> 02:26:30,157
lots is characterized as smil

4594
02:26:30,157 --> 02:26:32,126
rural development and does not

4595
02:26:32,126 --> 02:26:33,427
maintain the current low density

4596
02:26:33,427 --> 02:26:34,762
rural pattern found within the

4597
02:26:34,762 --> 02:26:36,630
surrounding areas.

4598
02:26:36,630 --> 02:26:38,630
Furthermore, the comprehensive

4599
02:26:38,366 --> 02:26:40,100
plan strategies listed out in

4600
02:26:40,100 --> 02:26:42,401
the thonotosassa community plan

4601
02:26:42,869 --> 02:26:43,637
list out requiring minimum sizes

4602
02:26:43,637 --> 02:26:45,720
of 1 acre for residential

4603
02:26:45,720 --> 02:26:45,773
development within the

4604
02:26:45,773 --> 02:26:47,773
residential 1, agricultural

4605
02:26:47,876 --> 02:26:49,944
state and agricultural rural

4606
02:26:49,944 --> 02:26:52,146
future land use categories.

4607
02:26:52,146 --> 02:26:52,680
And even to protect the area's

4608
02:26:52,680 --> 02:26:54,649
rural character.

4609
02:26:54,649 --> 02:26:55,383
And while the proposed rezoning

4610
02:26:55,383 --> 02:26:56,950
is accompanied by a future land

4611
02:26:56,950 --> 02:26:58,820
use amendment to the residential

4612
02:26:58,820 --> 02:27:00,121
2 category which is not

4613
02:27:00,121 --> 02:27:03,121
technically required to have a

4614
02:27:03,225 --> 02:27:03,958
minimum lot size of 1 acre,

4615
02:27:03,958 --> 02:27:05,260
according to the community plan,

4616
02:27:05,260 --> 02:27:06,995
the site is adjacent to and

4617
02:27:06,995 --> 02:27:09,130
surrounded by residential 1 and

4618
02:27:09,130 --> 02:27:10,298
agricultural rural 1 to 5

4619
02:27:10,298 --> 02:27:11,933
designations on all sides and

4620
02:27:11,933 --> 02:27:14,200
should remain sensitive to the

4621
02:27:14,200 --> 02:27:14,436
lot size requirements of these

4622
02:27:14,436 --> 02:27:15,669
designations.

4623
02:27:15,669 --> 02:27:16,338
Based upon the above

4624
02:27:16,338 --> 02:27:18,173
considerations and following

4625
02:27:18,173 --> 02:27:20,241
goals and objectives and

4626
02:27:20,241 --> 02:27:20,976
policies of the comprehensive

4627
02:27:20,976 --> 02:27:22,677
plan, planning commission staff

4628
02:27:22,677 --> 02:27:25,770
finds the proposed major

4629
02:27:25,413 --> 02:27:26,815
modification inconsistent.

4630
02:27:26,815 --> 02:27:27,948
>> hearing master: thank you.

4631
02:27:27,948 --> 02:27:28,883
At this point in time, is there

4632
02:27:28,883 --> 02:27:30,485
anyone in the audience that

4633
02:27:30,485 --> 02:27:34,850
wishes to speak in support of

4634
02:27:36,791 --> 02:27:37,659
the application?

4635
02:27:37,659 --> 02:27:38,627
Good evening.

4636
02:27:38,627 --> 02:27:40,596
>> good evening.

4637
02:27:40,596 --> 02:27:43,596
My name is lori walker.

4638
02:27:45,467 --> 02:27:46,835
My address is 13016 country view

4639
02:27:46,835 --> 02:27:48,835
road, dover, florida.

4640
02:27:49,371 --> 02:27:51,206
I live about two miles away from

4641
02:27:51,206 --> 02:27:53,206
this area.

4642
02:27:53,375 --> 02:27:57,575
I just saw the sign for the

4643
02:27:58,547 --> 02:28:01,850
first time -- signs on friday,

4644
02:28:01,850 --> 02:28:03,418
which they were way away from

4645
02:28:03,418 --> 02:28:06,187
the road that's only two lanes

4646
02:28:06,187 --> 02:28:08,389
that people are going down.

4647
02:28:08,389 --> 02:28:11,989
I wouldn't have even seen them

4648
02:28:12,761 --> 02:28:13,962
had the county not have mowed.

4649
02:28:13,962 --> 02:28:16,962
It's heart breaking because we

4650
02:28:18,232 --> 02:28:18,534
were just here a few months

4651
02:28:18,534 --> 02:28:19,435
back.

4652
02:28:19,435 --> 02:28:22,805
Right down the street less than

4653
02:28:22,805 --> 02:28:24,573
a mie away, it's already been

4654
02:28:24,573 --> 02:28:26,573
approved for 14 homes.

4655
02:28:26,942 --> 02:28:27,843
I'm fine with that down

4656
02:28:27,843 --> 02:28:29,843
.

4657
02:28:30,679 --> 02:28:30,980
Down the street, another 14

4658
02:28:30,980 --> 02:28:31,880
homes.

4659
02:28:31,880 --> 02:28:32,214
You know change is going to

4660
02:28:32,214 --> 02:28:33,315
change.

4661
02:28:33,315 --> 02:28:34,750
People are going to buy stuff.

4662
02:28:34,750 --> 02:28:36,510
But we are ag.

4663
02:28:36,510 --> 02:28:38,510
We are res-1.

4664
02:28:39,555 --> 02:28:42,570
We want to continue that.

4665
02:28:42,570 --> 02:28:45,570
Our roads can't handle this.

4666
02:28:45,127 --> 02:28:47,896
The roads are so potholed out,

4667
02:28:47,896 --> 02:28:50,296
they barely fix them.

4668
02:28:51,266 --> 02:28:52,401
Half of the road on the other

4669
02:28:52,401 --> 02:28:53,235
side of the -- on the

4670
02:28:53,235 --> 02:28:55,635
thonotosassa side where they

4671
02:28:55,637 --> 02:28:57,373
want to put two houses, that's

4672
02:28:57,373 --> 02:28:59,241
very low lying.

4673
02:28:59,241 --> 02:29:01,210
It's always flooded out.

4674
02:29:01,210 --> 02:29:02,678
There's cypress over there.

4675
02:29:02,678 --> 02:29:06,278
The road kind of crumbles on

4676
02:29:07,116 --> 02:29:07,416
that side of the road all the

4677
02:29:07,416 --> 02:29:08,850
time.

4678
02:29:08,850 --> 02:29:10,520
The other one that's been

4679
02:29:10,520 --> 02:29:11,253
approved, they are supposed to

4680
02:29:11,253 --> 02:29:12,255
resurface the road.

4681
02:29:12,255 --> 02:29:13,588
That doesn't help.

4682
02:29:13,588 --> 02:29:15,424
It helps somewhat, but that's

4683
02:29:15,424 --> 02:29:17,392
not going to take care of the

4684
02:29:17,392 --> 02:29:18,728
traffic problem.

4685
02:29:18,728 --> 02:29:22,632
Had I have had more time, I

4686
02:29:22,632 --> 02:29:25,301
would have brought video of

4687
02:29:25,301 --> 02:29:25,601
traffic, more people would have

4688
02:29:25,601 --> 02:29:27,336
came.

4689
02:29:27,336 --> 02:29:29,238
We want to keep it where it is.

4690
02:29:29,238 --> 02:29:31,638
We don't want rezoning.

4691
02:29:33,708 --> 02:29:34,377
If they want to do the 14

4692
02:29:34,377 --> 02:29:37,213
houses, most everyone that I

4693
02:29:37,213 --> 02:29:37,512
have talked to, we're okay with

4694
02:29:37,512 --> 02:29:39,382
that.

4695
02:29:39,382 --> 02:29:40,917
Don't rip out everything.

4696
02:29:40,917 --> 02:29:43,317
Don't tear everything down.

4697
02:29:45,288 --> 02:29:46,188
You go down kingsway from

4698
02:29:46,188 --> 02:29:47,924
thonotosassa, they are nice

4699
02:29:47,924 --> 02:29:49,225
homes that are being built on

4700
02:29:49,225 --> 02:29:51,225
big lots.

4701
02:29:54,697 --> 02:29:54,997
they are not taking everything

4702
02:29:54,997 --> 02:29:56,997
away.

4703
02:29:58,968 --> 02:30:02,138
We're just seeing it day by day

4704
02:30:02,138 --> 02:30:04,138
getting torn down.

4705
02:30:04,975 --> 02:30:06,975
And literally, the

4706
02:30:08,778 --> 02:30:11,178
infrastructure can't handle it.

4707
02:30:12,115 --> 02:30:14,149
So I oppose going forward with

4708
02:30:14,149 --> 02:30:14,451
30 more homes, you know, in that

4709
02:30:14,451 --> 02:30:15,719
area.

4710
02:30:15,719 --> 02:30:17,554
You're putting another -- just

4711
02:30:17,554 --> 02:30:18,321
say three, four people in a

4712
02:30:18,321 --> 02:30:20,321
home.

4713
02:30:20,489 --> 02:30:22,359
That's another 90 to 120 people

4714
02:30:22,359 --> 02:30:25,359
using this little tiny dinky

4715
02:30:26,730 --> 02:30:27,297
road that's going to be

4716
02:30:27,297 --> 02:30:29,266
resurfaced.

4717
02:30:29,266 --> 02:30:29,699
Thank you for your time and your

4718
02:30:29,699 --> 02:30:30,467
consideration.

4719
02:30:30,467 --> 02:30:32,636
>> hearing master: all right,

4720
02:30:32,636 --> 02:30:34,636
thank you, ma'am.

4721
02:30:34,971 --> 02:30:35,871
All right.

4722
02:30:35,871 --> 02:30:37,720
Let me back track.

4723
02:30:37,720 --> 02:30:38,909
Is there anyone in the audience

4724
02:30:38,909 --> 02:30:40,977
that wishes to speak in support

4725
02:30:40,977 --> 02:30:42,977
of the application?

4726
02:30:45,882 --> 02:30:47,417
It's okay.

4727
02:30:47,417 --> 02:30:48,652
See no one responding.

4728
02:30:48,652 --> 02:30:49,619
Anyone else in the audience that

4729
02:30:49,619 --> 02:30:51,121
wishes to speak in opposition to

4730
02:30:51,121 --> 02:30:51,521
the application?

4731
02:30:51,521 --> 02:30:52,289
>> yes.

4732
02:30:52,289 --> 02:30:52,622
>> hearing master: please come

4733
02:30:52,622 --> 02:30:54,622
forward.

4734
02:30:54,725 --> 02:30:56,159
>> we also have two individuals

4735
02:30:56,159 --> 02:30:58,159
online.

4736
02:31:03,834 --> 02:31:04,368
>> hearing master: okay.

4737
02:31:04,368 --> 02:31:06,368
Good evening.

4738
02:31:06,436 --> 02:31:06,770
>> good evening, MR. Zoning

4739
02:31:06,770 --> 02:31:08,770
master.

4740
02:31:10,807 --> 02:31:14,244
My name is robert alvi ask.

4741
02:31:14,244 --> 02:31:14,845
I reside at 11907 thonotosassa

4742
02:31:14,845 --> 02:31:16,845
road.

4743
02:31:17,781 --> 02:31:20,851
I am also speaking for my

4744
02:31:20,851 --> 02:31:22,719
daughter elizabeth who resides

4745
02:31:22,719 --> 02:31:24,719
at 11907 thonotosassa road.

4746
02:31:25,220 --> 02:31:26,757
She cannot attend tonight.

4747
02:31:26,757 --> 02:31:29,259
She's working second shift and

4748
02:31:29,259 --> 02:31:31,259
can't be here.

4749
02:31:32,129 --> 02:31:32,429
I'm not sure why we're even

4750
02:31:32,429 --> 02:31:34,230
here.

4751
02:31:34,230 --> 02:31:37,634
a couple of years ago, this

4752
02:31:37,634 --> 02:31:38,680
property went up for a major

4753
02:31:38,680 --> 02:31:39,903
modification.

4754
02:31:39,903 --> 02:31:40,870
And it went before the county

4755
02:31:40,870 --> 02:31:43,707
commission acting as the zoning

4756
02:31:43,707 --> 02:31:45,809
board and was denied.

4757
02:31:45,809 --> 02:31:47,110
They tried for 24 homes, one to

4758
02:31:47,110 --> 02:31:49,110
an acre.

4759
02:31:49,947 --> 02:31:52,816
It does not fit the area.

4760
02:31:52,816 --> 02:31:54,551
It should not exist.

4761
02:31:54,551 --> 02:31:56,987
A couple of years later, we come

4762
02:31:56,987 --> 02:31:57,721
along and now they are trying

4763
02:31:57,721 --> 02:32:00,691
for 48 through the back door at

4764
02:32:00,691 --> 02:32:02,691
the planning commission.

4765
02:32:03,360 --> 02:32:06,360
Well, that didn't work either.

4766
02:32:33,224 --> 02:32:34,991
The math just doesn't work.

4767
02:32:34,991 --> 02:32:37,391
If 24 isn't viable, 30 certainly

4768
02:32:39,464 --> 02:32:40,798
isn't.

4769
02:32:40,798 --> 02:32:43,367
So, and, of course, everybody

4770
02:32:43,367 --> 02:32:45,767
harps on the roads.

4771
02:32:46,137 --> 02:32:48,239
Don't know if you know it or

4772
02:32:48,239 --> 02:32:51,239
not, but thonotosassa/plant city

4773
02:32:52,750 --> 02:32:54,745
road is I believe the oldest

4774
02:32:54,745 --> 02:32:55,312
paved road in unincorporated

4775
02:32:55,312 --> 02:32:57,312
hillsborough county.

4776
02:32:57,415 --> 02:33:00,251
It does not need to be modified

4777
02:33:00,251 --> 02:33:00,651
to handle the increased traffic.

4778
02:33:00,651 --> 02:33:02,651
Paved, yeah.

4779
02:33:10,128 --> 02:33:11,995
Modified, no.

4780
02:33:11,995 --> 02:33:14,395
That cannot be allowed.

4781
02:33:14,666 --> 02:33:16,666
It's historical.

4782
02:33:17,434 --> 02:33:17,736
Everybody else has said the same

4783
02:33:17,736 --> 02:33:18,403
thing.

4784
02:33:18,403 --> 02:33:20,803
The planning commission was

4785
02:33:25,844 --> 02:33:27,378
correct.

4786
02:33:27,378 --> 02:33:30,978
It doesn't fit, it shouldn't be

4787
02:33:32,851 --> 02:33:34,850
there, and I urge you to report

4788
02:33:34,850 --> 02:33:35,120
that to the commission

4789
02:33:35,120 --> 02:33:35,387
>> hearing master: thank you,

4790
02:33:35,387 --> 02:33:37,387
sir.

4791
02:33:40,125 --> 02:33:40,792
>> thank you, sir.

4792
02:33:40,792 --> 02:33:41,927
>> hearing master: is there

4793
02:33:41,927 --> 02:33:45,527
anyone else in the audience that

4794
02:33:51,350 --> 02:33:52,571
wishes to speak in opposition?

4795
02:33:52,571 --> 02:33:53,972
I thought I heard someone else

4796
02:33:53,972 --> 02:33:56,475
say they wanted to speak, maybe

4797
02:33:56,475 --> 02:33:58,475
I'm mistaken.

4798
02:33:58,710 --> 02:34:01,379
No one else wants to speak in

4799
02:34:01,379 --> 02:34:01,880
opposition, at this point in

4800
02:34:01,880 --> 02:34:03,615
time --

4801
02:34:03,615 --> 02:34:06,150
>> we have people online.

4802
02:34:06,752 --> 02:34:07,452
>> there were two people online.

4803
02:34:07,452 --> 02:34:08,220
>> hearing master: all right,

4804
02:34:08,220 --> 02:34:10,220
next speaker, please.

4805
02:34:10,220 --> 02:34:10,955
>> suzie lee.

4806
02:34:10,955 --> 02:34:11,956
>> can you hear me?

4807
02:34:11,956 --> 02:34:13,956
>> yes.

4808
02:34:17,620 --> 02:34:17,930
>> hi, I'm sue zealy, I live on

4809
02:34:17,930 --> 02:34:19,930
red hawk lane.

4810
02:34:23,502 --> 02:34:24,436
I'm speaking in opposition of

4811
02:34:24,436 --> 02:34:26,305
mm260800.

4812
02:34:26,305 --> 02:34:29,305
First, this area simply cannot

4813
02:34:29,575 --> 02:34:31,750
and should not sustain this type

4814
02:34:31,750 --> 02:34:33,679
of development on the table.

4815
02:34:33,679 --> 02:34:35,881
And addition ali, it's not

4816
02:34:35,881 --> 02:34:36,948
consistent with the area, it's

4817
02:34:36,948 --> 02:34:38,784
incompatible with the

4818
02:34:38,784 --> 02:34:41,784
comprehensive plan, and found to

4819
02:34:41,920 --> 02:34:43,822
be inconsistent by staff.

4820
02:34:43,822 --> 02:34:46,691
The road is substandard, which I

4821
02:34:46,691 --> 02:34:48,127
know everybody's gone over.

4822
02:34:48,127 --> 02:34:50,929
Did you know that thonotosassa

4823
02:34:50,929 --> 02:34:51,896
road is designated as a rural

4824
02:34:51,896 --> 02:34:53,896
scenic corridor?

4825
02:34:54,667 --> 02:34:57,169
How can it be rural or scenic if

4826
02:34:57,169 --> 02:34:59,569
it's full of traffic.

4827
02:35:01,106 --> 02:35:03,909
It's just -- it's just insane.

4828
02:35:03,909 --> 02:35:05,578
For every house, concrete pad

4829
02:35:05,578 --> 02:35:07,120
and additional pavement brought

4830
02:35:07,120 --> 02:35:09,281
in the area, the consequences to

4831
02:35:09,281 --> 02:35:12,281
the outlying area, and the

4832
02:35:13,986 --> 02:35:15,520
residents who have been here

4833
02:35:15,520 --> 02:35:16,956
forever are awful, they flood,

4834
02:35:16,956 --> 02:35:18,570
there's flooding where flooding

4835
02:35:18,570 --> 02:35:20,570
has never occurred.

4836
02:35:21,327 --> 02:35:22,295
When they built the stone lake

4837
02:35:22,295 --> 02:35:24,630
ranch division that was

4838
02:35:24,630 --> 02:35:26,332
referenced earlier, I have

4839
02:35:26,332 --> 02:35:27,867
friends with horse farms who

4840
02:35:27,867 --> 02:35:30,350
flooded who had never flooded

4841
02:35:30,350 --> 02:35:30,435
before, as a result of that

4842
02:35:30,435 --> 02:35:32,435
development.

4843
02:35:32,605 --> 02:35:33,939
So the consequences to the

4844
02:35:33,939 --> 02:35:35,740
residents that have been here,

4845
02:35:35,740 --> 02:35:37,109
it's just not fair.

4846
02:35:37,109 --> 02:35:38,778
They pay with the flooding, they

4847
02:35:38,778 --> 02:35:41,514
pay with the traffic, the

4848
02:35:41,514 --> 02:35:42,480
congested roads, and their

4849
02:35:42,480 --> 02:35:43,616
lifestyle.

4850
02:35:43,616 --> 02:35:44,916
our rural lifestyle out here,

4851
02:35:44,916 --> 02:35:46,916
it's totally disrupted.

4852
02:35:47,653 --> 02:35:49,655
And I'm not even going to

4853
02:35:49,655 --> 02:35:49,989
mention the wildlife that also

4854
02:35:49,989 --> 02:35:51,989
suffers.

4855
02:35:53,292 --> 02:35:56,292
We're called to be caretakers,

4856
02:35:57,530 --> 02:35:59,766
not destroyers of the land.

4857
02:35:59,766 --> 02:36:01,567
I'm not against growth, but this

4858
02:36:01,567 --> 02:36:02,702
growth is unparalleled in our

4859
02:36:02,702 --> 02:36:06,302
county, and it needs to be

4860
02:36:06,873 --> 02:36:08,174
stopped.

4861
02:36:08,174 --> 02:36:10,750
Especially during the drought.

4862
02:36:10,750 --> 02:36:11,377
Our roads and our environment

4863
02:36:11,377 --> 02:36:13,377
can't sustain it.

4864
02:36:13,780 --> 02:36:15,181
We will have no future for our

4865
02:36:15,181 --> 02:36:17,316
children and grant children if

4866
02:36:17,316 --> 02:36:19,819
we just continue at this pace.

4867
02:36:19,819 --> 02:36:20,320
So please, I ask you, do not let

4868
02:36:20,320 --> 02:36:22,320
this move forward.

4869
02:36:22,489 --> 02:36:23,223
Thank you.

4870
02:36:23,223 --> 02:36:26,920
>> mayor ross: okay, thank you,

4871
02:36:26,920 --> 02:36:27,427
ma'am.

4872
02:36:27,427 --> 02:36:30,230
I believe there's another person

4873
02:36:30,230 --> 02:36:33,830
on line that wishes to speak?

4874
02:36:39,272 --> 02:36:41,272
>> yes.

4875
02:36:42,442 --> 02:36:45,442
My name is teagan zealy.

4876
02:36:54,487 --> 02:36:54,854
I'm here in opposition to

4877
02:36:54,854 --> 02:36:56,854
mm26-0800.

4878
02:36:57,230 --> 02:36:59,225
I apologize for repeating

4879
02:36:59,225 --> 02:37:01,625
everything that everybody else

4880
02:37:02,862 --> 02:37:03,163
is on saying, but it needs to be

4881
02:37:03,163 --> 02:37:05,163
heard.

4882
02:37:06,700 --> 02:37:08,235
Thonotosassa is designated as a

4883
02:37:08,235 --> 02:37:11,235
rural scenic corridor, not a

4884
02:37:12,872 --> 02:37:13,272
road full of clustered planneds

4885
02:37:13,272 --> 02:37:15,272
development.

4886
02:37:15,474 --> 02:37:17,410
It isn't designed to handle the

4887
02:37:17,410 --> 02:37:18,979
traffic it deals with.

4888
02:37:18,979 --> 02:37:21,979
Furthermore, even on the row

4889
02:37:22,950 --> 02:37:24,184
zoning application summary, it

4890
02:37:24,184 --> 02:37:26,320
states that thonotosassa road is

4891
02:37:26,320 --> 02:37:28,720
substandard, and the future

4892
02:37:30,757 --> 02:37:31,157
improvements of the road are

4893
02:37:31,157 --> 02:37:33,157
substandard.

4894
02:37:33,861 --> 02:37:35,295
The property in question is

4895
02:37:35,295 --> 02:37:38,295
surrounded on all four sides

4896
02:37:39,320 --> 02:37:40,400
with ar designation, and res-1

4897
02:37:40,400 --> 02:37:41,668
designation, that's not

4898
02:37:41,668 --> 02:37:43,668
compatible with res 2.

4899
02:37:44,972 --> 02:37:46,940
How do you get res-2 out of

4900
02:37:46,940 --> 02:37:48,750
completely being surrounded with

4901
02:37:48,750 --> 02:37:49,610
ar and res-1.

4902
02:37:49,610 --> 02:37:50,911
The rezoning application

4903
02:37:50,911 --> 02:37:53,911
actually states in one spot,

4904
02:37:53,914 --> 02:37:56,417
that to the northeast of the

4905
02:37:56,417 --> 02:37:57,851
property or the northwest, to

4906
02:37:57,851 --> 02:37:59,987
the northwest of the property,

4907
02:37:59,987 --> 02:38:01,455
there are houses on less than 1

4908
02:38:01,455 --> 02:38:03,256
acre lots, I would encourage you

4909
02:38:03,256 --> 02:38:05,125
to look at the map.

4910
02:38:05,125 --> 02:38:05,726
There's a lake to the northwest

4911
02:38:05,726 --> 02:38:07,726
of the property.

4912
02:38:09,530 --> 02:38:11,598
So I'm not sure how they came up

4913
02:38:11,598 --> 02:38:13,670
with that one.

4914
02:38:13,670 --> 02:38:14,502
Pretty much everything else I

4915
02:38:14,502 --> 02:38:16,303
wanted to say, the staff has

4916
02:38:16,303 --> 02:38:17,710
already said.

4917
02:38:17,710 --> 02:38:19,173
I completely concur with what

4918
02:38:19,173 --> 02:38:21,242
the staff has said about it not

4919
02:38:21,242 --> 02:38:22,309
being compatible, it just does

4920
02:38:22,309 --> 02:38:24,178
not make sense.

4921
02:38:24,178 --> 02:38:25,478
I can repeat that if you wish.

4922
02:38:25,478 --> 02:38:28,149
I won't waste your time unless

4923
02:38:28,149 --> 02:38:30,418
you'd like me to.

4924
02:38:30,418 --> 02:38:32,353
So just going into it, the

4925
02:38:32,353 --> 02:38:34,321
proposed request does not

4926
02:38:34,321 --> 02:38:35,289
further the vision of the

4927
02:38:35,289 --> 02:38:37,289
thonotosassa community plan,

4928
02:38:38,250 --> 02:38:39,327
which requires one acre lot

4929
02:38:39,327 --> 02:38:41,327
minimum for residential

4930
02:38:41,662 --> 02:38:44,598
development, and it does not

4931
02:38:44,598 --> 02:38:45,532
promote compatibility within an

4932
02:38:45,532 --> 02:38:47,532
established rural community.

4933
02:38:50,371 --> 02:38:53,371
I respectfully request you to

4934
02:38:54,775 --> 02:38:56,344
deny this application thank you.

4935
02:38:56,344 --> 02:38:56,644
>> hearing master: thank you,

4936
02:38:56,644 --> 02:38:57,745
ma'am.

4937
02:38:57,745 --> 02:39:00,114
Is there anyone else in the

4938
02:39:00,114 --> 02:39:03,114
audience or online that wishes

4939
02:39:04,819 --> 02:39:07,188
to speak in opposition.

4940
02:39:07,188 --> 02:39:08,756
At this point in time,

4941
02:39:08,756 --> 02:39:09,924
development services staff,

4942
02:39:09,924 --> 02:39:11,924
anything further?

4943
02:39:12,527 --> 02:39:14,927
>> michelle heinrich, it was

4944
02:39:14,963 --> 02:39:17,866
noted by MISS Albert and we

4945
02:39:17,866 --> 02:39:20,401
neglected to put in our report

4946
02:39:20,401 --> 02:39:22,971
that if the project is

4947
02:39:22,971 --> 02:39:25,740
successful in changing to the

4948
02:39:25,740 --> 02:39:27,341
res 2 future land use category,

4949
02:39:27,341 --> 02:39:30,245
the senior corridor will change

4950
02:39:30,245 --> 02:39:31,780
from a rural to scenic suburban

4951
02:39:31,780 --> 02:39:34,816
corridor, it will go down from

4952
02:39:34,816 --> 02:39:35,550
30 feet to 15 feet.

4953
02:39:35,550 --> 02:39:37,952
>> hearing master: all right, at

4954
02:39:37,952 --> 02:39:40,889
this point in time, the

4955
02:39:40,889 --> 02:39:43,889
applicant has an opportunity for

4956
02:39:45,427 --> 02:39:47,427
rebuttal.

4957
02:39:50,998 --> 02:39:52,234
>> william malloy, tampa,

4958
02:39:52,234 --> 02:39:54,169
florida.

4959
02:39:54,169 --> 02:39:56,236
There are two distinct points I

4960
02:39:56,236 --> 02:39:57,706
want to touch on, the first is

4961
02:39:57,706 --> 02:39:59,107
thonotosassa road, we are on the

4962
02:39:59,107 --> 02:40:01,409
hook, and it's in the staff

4963
02:40:01,409 --> 02:40:04,409
report for making sure that

4964
02:40:05,747 --> 02:40:07,349
thonotosassa road is

4965
02:40:07,349 --> 02:40:09,349
appropriately wide and

4966
02:40:09,684 --> 02:40:11,519
resurfaced, one mile to the west

4967
02:40:11,519 --> 02:40:13,922
to taylor road, that's a pocket

4968
02:40:13,922 --> 02:40:17,590
of r-6 right there, we're going

4969
02:40:17,590 --> 02:40:19,695
from r-2, building a mile of

4970
02:40:19,695 --> 02:40:21,796
road, to r-6, that's compelling.

4971
02:40:21,796 --> 02:40:24,399
The planning commission has put

4972
02:40:24,399 --> 02:40:27,402
a lot of merit in the idea that

4973
02:40:27,402 --> 02:40:29,805
we're putting lakes -- excuse

4974
02:40:29,805 --> 02:40:32,975
me, houses on the lake, and we

4975
02:40:32,975 --> 02:40:34,176
need to make some kind of

4976
02:40:34,176 --> 02:40:36,211
adjustment with the lake.

4977
02:40:36,211 --> 02:40:37,312
We have no development planned

4978
02:40:37,312 --> 02:40:39,712
north of thonotosassa road.

4979
02:40:40,449 --> 02:40:44,490
All of our development is south.

4980
02:40:45,787 --> 02:40:47,623
If you see the site plan, it's

4981
02:40:47,623 --> 02:40:49,458
houses, two giant ponds.

4982
02:40:49,458 --> 02:40:51,193
Skip the right-of-way, and yes

4983
02:40:51,193 --> 02:40:52,127
our parcel front is the lake.

4984
02:40:52,127 --> 02:40:54,630
We're not developing on the

4985
02:40:54,630 --> 02:40:55,596
lake, it's far from it.

4986
02:40:55,596 --> 02:40:55,865
There's a point I'd like to make

4987
02:40:55,865 --> 02:40:57,865
too.

4988
02:40:58,167 --> 02:40:58,534
That I think has to be

4989
02:40:58,534 --> 02:41:00,534
addressed.

4990
02:41:01,336 --> 02:41:03,472
This case should be heard and

4991
02:41:03,472 --> 02:41:04,974
judged as though r2 were in

4992
02:41:04,974 --> 02:41:06,942
place today.

4993
02:41:06,942 --> 02:41:08,310
And I'm of the firm opinion that

4994
02:41:08,310 --> 02:41:09,440
that staff report from the

4995
02:41:09,440 --> 02:41:09,477
planning commission does not

4996
02:41:09,477 --> 02:41:11,280
consider that.

4997
02:41:11,280 --> 02:41:11,981
Thank you.

4998
02:41:11,981 --> 02:41:13,514
>> hearing master: thank you,

4999
02:41:13,514 --> 02:41:15,284
sir.

5000
02:41:15,284 --> 02:41:17,620
okay, with that, that concludes

5001
02:41:17,620 --> 02:41:18,821
this application, and MR.

5002
02:41:18,821 --> 02:41:21,221
Malloy, please sign in.

5003
02:41:21,590 --> 02:41:22,991
And michelle, do we wan the to

5004
02:41:22,991 --> 02:41:26,591
take a break now or --

5005
02:41:26,795 --> 02:41:28,196
>> sure, sounds good.

5006
02:41:28,196 --> 02:41:30,596
>> hearing master: let's just

5007
02:41:31,567 --> 02:41:32,168
take a 10 minute break, we'll

5008
02:41:32,168 --> 02:41:34,168
reconvene at 8:50.

5009
02:43:18,240 --> 02:43:19,408
>> thank you.

5010
02:43:19,408 --> 02:43:21,177
>> hearing master: ladies and

5011
02:43:21,177 --> 02:43:23,880
gentlemen, if we could be

5012
02:43:23,880 --> 02:43:25,880
seated, reconvening tonight's

5013
02:43:30,153 --> 02:43:31,888
AUGUST 24th, 2026zhm hearing.

5014
02:43:31,888 --> 02:43:33,957
Folks, if we could have a seat,

5015
02:43:33,957 --> 02:43:34,924
if we could get going, we have

5016
02:43:34,924 --> 02:43:37,924
three more items on tonight's

5017
02:43:40,562 --> 02:43:42,562
agenda.

5018
02:43:46,401 --> 02:43:46,836
>> our next application is

5019
02:43:46,836 --> 02:43:48,836
rz-pd26-0803.

5020
02:43:53,430 --> 02:43:56,430
The applicant is requesting to

5021
02:43:59,249 --> 02:44:02,849
rezone pd85-0286 and spi-uc-2 to

5022
02:44:05,221 --> 02:44:07,221
planned development.

5023
02:44:10,827 --> 02:44:11,560
This is combined with another

5024
02:44:11,560 --> 02:44:13,597
amendment that will be heard in

5025
02:44:13,597 --> 02:44:15,597
OCTOBER.

5026
02:44:16,533 --> 02:44:18,902
>> kami corbett, tampa, florida.

5027
02:44:18,902 --> 02:44:22,139
This site is located in the

5028
02:44:22,139 --> 02:44:23,740
university mall area, directly

5029
02:44:23,740 --> 02:44:25,375
north of the university area

5030
02:44:25,375 --> 02:44:26,910
mall, and this is the plan

5031
02:44:26,910 --> 02:44:29,112
amendment that michelle is

5032
02:44:29,112 --> 02:44:31,512
referring to, currently r20,

5033
02:44:32,382 --> 02:44:34,951
we're having a plan amendment

5034
02:44:34,951 --> 02:44:36,320
only to the west side of the pd

5035
02:44:36,320 --> 02:44:39,920
parcel, and I'll explain that in

5036
02:44:39,990 --> 02:44:41,580
a minute, to r35, and the

5037
02:44:41,580 --> 02:44:42,725
planning commission has found

5038
02:44:42,725 --> 02:44:44,725
that request consistent.

5039
02:44:45,629 --> 02:44:46,290
Both staff and the planning

5040
02:44:46,290 --> 02:44:48,290
commission.

5041
02:44:48,232 --> 02:44:50,834
The existing use was really

5042
02:44:50,834 --> 02:44:54,370
for -- what you have is on the

5043
02:44:54,370 --> 02:44:57,370
eastside of 22nd street, there's

5044
02:44:58,142 --> 02:45:00,344
an existing A.L.F., on the west

5045
02:45:00,344 --> 02:45:03,344
side is an existing retirement

5046
02:45:03,914 --> 02:45:05,449
home, and then there's a

5047
02:45:05,449 --> 02:45:06,482
parcel -- we'll number the

5048
02:45:06,482 --> 02:45:08,185
parcels in a little bit.

5049
02:45:08,185 --> 02:45:10,154
There was another parcel to the

5050
02:45:10,154 --> 02:45:11,655
east, this is like a major

5051
02:45:11,655 --> 02:45:12,256
modification, because it's a new

5052
02:45:12,256 --> 02:45:14,656
pd because we're adding

5053
02:45:19,396 --> 02:45:21,396
property.

5054
02:45:22,165 --> 02:45:23,867
The original pd that had

5055
02:45:23,867 --> 02:45:25,867
different parcels.

5056
02:45:27,370 --> 02:45:28,605
The alf parcel 4 is a drainage

5057
02:45:28,605 --> 02:45:29,840
and storm water area, that is

5058
02:45:29,840 --> 02:45:31,509
owned and controlled by the

5059
02:45:31,509 --> 02:45:33,844
property owner that owns the

5060
02:45:33,844 --> 02:45:35,679
eastside of 22nd street.

5061
02:45:35,679 --> 02:45:37,679
>> okay.

5062
02:45:43,955 --> 02:45:45,656
>> my client purchased both

5063
02:45:45,656 --> 02:45:47,225
parcel 2 and the other parcel.

5064
02:45:47,225 --> 02:45:49,627
The purpose of this request was

5065
02:45:49,627 --> 02:45:51,762
to allow for traditional

5066
02:45:51,762 --> 02:45:54,762
multifamily to be located on

5067
02:45:55,866 --> 02:45:57,501
parcel 2 and in the spi-uc

5068
02:45:57,501 --> 02:45:57,902
rather than limit them to

5069
02:45:57,902 --> 02:45:59,870
retirement.

5070
02:45:59,870 --> 02:46:02,139
The reason why we had to bring

5071
02:46:02,139 --> 02:46:06,339
in the whole pd, there was a

5072
02:46:07,311 --> 02:46:10,311
blended density at one point.

5073
02:46:11,470 --> 02:46:12,350
The A.L.F. Is computed

5074
02:46:12,350 --> 02:46:14,350
differently.

5075
02:46:14,352 --> 02:46:17,550
We had to get the additional

5076
02:46:17,550 --> 02:46:18,189
density allowed, and to leave

5077
02:46:18,189 --> 02:46:20,189
them whole.

5078
02:46:20,825 --> 02:46:22,560
I think they only built 110

5079
02:46:22,560 --> 02:46:24,528
beds, but they have entitlement

5080
02:46:24,528 --> 02:46:25,196
for more, and we can't take that

5081
02:46:25,196 --> 02:46:27,196
away from them.

5082
02:46:28,320 --> 02:46:28,466
This is the new parcel

5083
02:46:28,466 --> 02:46:30,466
configuration.

5084
02:46:30,634 --> 02:46:33,237
In the old pd zoning, they had

5085
02:46:33,237 --> 02:46:34,872
different labels, parcels, we

5086
02:46:34,872 --> 02:46:37,410
now in the staff report refer to

5087
02:46:37,410 --> 02:46:37,842
the eastside as parcel b and

5088
02:46:37,842 --> 02:46:39,842
parcel a.

5089
02:46:41,679 --> 02:46:42,680
And what we're asking for is two

5090
02:46:42,680 --> 02:46:44,680
development options.

5091
02:46:45,160 --> 02:46:47,484
The first is to allow parcel a

5092
02:46:47,484 --> 02:46:49,654
to be used as multifamily in the

5093
02:46:49,654 --> 02:46:51,550
existing buildings, no

5094
02:46:51,550 --> 02:46:53,958
redevelopment of the site, just

5095
02:46:53,958 --> 02:46:55,693
able to convert what's already

5096
02:46:55,693 --> 02:46:56,428
there, regular multifamily, no

5097
02:46:56,428 --> 02:46:58,428
age restriction.

5098
02:46:58,763 --> 02:47:00,365
The second was to allow for a

5099
02:47:00,365 --> 02:47:02,635
redevelopment of parcel a and

5100
02:47:02,635 --> 02:47:04,502
set paramounters for that in the

5101
02:47:04,502 --> 02:47:08,102
future, the immediate plan is to

5102
02:47:09,273 --> 02:47:10,775
utilize what's existing there at

5103
02:47:10,775 --> 02:47:12,477
parcel a.

5104
02:47:12,477 --> 02:47:16,677
And then this further -- this is

5105
02:47:17,182 --> 02:47:19,417
just additional explanation to

5106
02:47:19,417 --> 02:47:22,187
what I just said, regarding up

5107
02:47:22,187 --> 02:47:23,355
to 480 multifamily units on

5108
02:47:23,355 --> 02:47:25,355
parcel a.

5109
02:47:25,490 --> 02:47:26,491
That that's part of the comp

5110
02:47:26,491 --> 02:47:28,491
plan request.

5111
02:47:29,194 --> 02:47:30,429
We're asking for some pd

5112
02:47:30,429 --> 02:47:32,531
variations, related to the

5113
02:47:32,531 --> 02:47:35,000
buffering and screening, you can

5114
02:47:35,000 --> 02:47:36,401
see there's adequate buffering

5115
02:47:36,401 --> 02:47:39,204
there,ing and the idea is, we're

5116
02:47:39,204 --> 02:47:39,571
going to utilize these existing

5117
02:47:39,571 --> 02:47:41,571
buildings.

5118
02:47:42,240 --> 02:47:43,241
Staff has found the request

5119
02:47:43,241 --> 02:47:44,309
consistent and compatible with

5120
02:47:44,309 --> 02:47:46,178
the comprehensive plan.

5121
02:47:46,178 --> 02:47:47,512
There are no, os from any

5122
02:47:47,512 --> 02:47:50,480
reviewing agencies, and I'm here

5123
02:47:50,480 --> 02:47:50,548
to answer questions should you

5124
02:47:50,548 --> 02:47:51,682
have any.

5125
02:47:51,682 --> 02:47:52,217
>> hearing master: no, no

5126
02:47:52,217 --> 02:47:53,986
questions.

5127
02:47:53,986 --> 02:47:55,986
Thank you.

5128
02:48:00,425 --> 02:48:02,425
Development services staff.

5129
02:48:03,950 --> 02:48:03,895
>> good evening, tim lampkin

5130
02:48:03,895 --> 02:48:05,895
development services.

5131
02:48:05,997 --> 02:48:08,397
The applicant's proposing to

5132
02:48:08,934 --> 02:48:10,934
rezone approximately 22 acres,

5133
02:48:12,471 --> 02:48:14,173
it's located just over 200 feet

5134
02:48:14,173 --> 02:48:17,173
north of the intersection of

5135
02:48:18,110 --> 02:48:19,878
north 22nd street and university

5136
02:48:19,878 --> 02:48:22,615
square mall club drive, which is

5137
02:48:22,615 --> 02:48:25,150
the ring road surrounding

5138
02:48:25,851 --> 02:48:28,851
university mall north of fowler.

5139
02:48:33,626 --> 02:48:36,260
The overall project includes

5140
02:48:40,299 --> 02:48:40,666
what's currently zoned pd and

5141
02:48:40,666 --> 02:48:41,734
spi-uc-2.

5142
02:48:41,734 --> 02:48:43,734
Development standards are

5143
02:48:44,970 --> 02:48:47,370
applicable to parcel a.

5144
02:48:49,108 --> 02:48:49,442
Which is on the eastside of the

5145
02:48:49,442 --> 02:48:51,442
parcel.

5146
02:48:59,752 --> 02:49:01,486
Parcel a consists of

5147
02:49:01,486 --> 02:49:03,389
approximately 13.8 acres, and

5148
02:49:03,389 --> 02:49:06,580
they're allowed to have a

5149
02:49:06,580 --> 02:49:08,227
maximum of 483 dwelling units.

5150
02:49:08,227 --> 02:49:10,328
the staff report does say --

5151
02:49:10,328 --> 02:49:11,831
there will be a revised staff

5152
02:49:11,831 --> 02:49:13,831
report submitted later.

5153
02:49:14,300 --> 02:49:17,900
The staff report says 484 and it

5154
02:49:25,111 --> 02:49:27,111
should be 483 units.

5155
02:49:28,140 --> 02:49:30,383
The remaining acreage of parcel

5156
02:49:30,383 --> 02:49:33,453
b is within the existing pd, and

5157
02:49:33,453 --> 02:49:34,854
developed within an assisted

5158
02:49:34,854 --> 02:49:36,854
living facility.

5159
02:49:36,856 --> 02:49:39,856
As the applicant states, parcel

5160
02:49:44,531 --> 02:49:47,531
b is approved for 260 adult

5161
02:49:48,340 --> 02:49:51,634
congregate living a.Cl.F. Beds.

5162
02:49:52,438 --> 02:49:54,407
There are no changes whatsoever

5163
02:49:54,407 --> 02:49:56,800
to parcel b.

5164
02:49:56,800 --> 02:49:58,800
The applicant's requesting

5165
02:49:58,478 --> 02:50:00,878
relief from the 2 for 1

5166
02:50:01,815 --> 02:50:04,215
compatibility set back, ldc

5167
02:50:05,452 --> 02:50:07,860
section 6.01 which requires

5168
02:50:07,860 --> 02:50:09,322
structures with a permitted

5169
02:50:09,322 --> 02:50:11,591
height over 20 feet, to provide

5170
02:50:11,591 --> 02:50:12,993
additional 2 feet of set back,

5171
02:50:12,993 --> 02:50:13,693
for every one foot over th

5172
02:50:13,693 --> 02:50:15,693
building height.

5173
02:50:17,970 --> 02:50:19,399
The staff notes under option

5174
02:50:19,399 --> 02:50:22,235
one, a maximum allowable height

5175
02:50:22,235 --> 02:50:22,802
of 98 feet with a 1 to 1 set

5176
02:50:22,802 --> 02:50:24,802
back.

5177
02:50:25,572 --> 02:50:27,174
Based on additional set back

5178
02:50:27,174 --> 02:50:29,509
requirements, a setback of 98

5179
02:50:29,509 --> 02:50:31,440
would BEth be required,

5180
02:50:31,440 --> 02:50:32,546
recognizes existing building

5181
02:50:32,546 --> 02:50:35,546
heights and set backs, the

5182
02:50:37,617 --> 02:50:38,652
applicant proposes to allow

5183
02:50:38,652 --> 02:50:41,652
demolition of the development in

5184
02:50:43,190 --> 02:50:43,523
parcel b, and to develop it as a

5185
02:50:43,523 --> 02:50:45,523
multifamily.

5186
02:50:48,495 --> 02:50:50,730
Option a would be keep it as is

5187
02:50:50,730 --> 02:50:53,130
with the assisted living

5188
02:50:55,168 --> 02:50:56,703
facility, or have multifamily

5189
02:50:56,703 --> 02:50:58,171
unage restricted with the

5190
02:50:58,171 --> 02:51:00,171
existing configuration.

5191
02:51:01,441 --> 02:51:03,900
The applicant has submitted

5192
02:51:03,900 --> 02:51:04,778
justification for the proposed

5193
02:51:04,778 --> 02:51:06,130
relief, which staff has reviewed

5194
02:51:06,130 --> 02:51:07,781
and has no objections.

5195
02:51:07,781 --> 02:51:09,817
The staff also reviewed and

5196
02:51:09,817 --> 02:51:12,217
you'll make a determination,

5197
02:51:12,285 --> 02:51:15,285
they submitted a variance to

5198
02:51:16,560 --> 02:51:18,759
allow no buffer in lieu of the

5199
02:51:18,759 --> 02:51:21,759
required 20 foot type b parcel

5200
02:51:22,620 --> 02:51:23,997
a's, eastern boundary.

5201
02:51:23,997 --> 02:51:25,699
So more specifically, the

5202
02:51:25,699 --> 02:51:27,468
applicant's intent for

5203
02:51:27,468 --> 02:51:28,802
requesting the variation is not

5204
02:51:28,802 --> 02:51:30,104
the buffer on the eastern

5205
02:51:30,104 --> 02:51:32,390
boundary of the property,

5206
02:51:32,390 --> 02:51:33,340
because it's mitigated through

5207
02:51:33,340 --> 02:51:35,340
existing site conditions,

5208
02:51:36,977 --> 02:51:39,613
including a large wetland area.

5209
02:51:39,613 --> 02:51:40,881
Mature trees, are currently

5210
02:51:40,881 --> 02:51:43,881
preserved, and will continue to

5211
02:51:44,118 --> 02:51:45,820
be preserved by the new pd.

5212
02:51:45,820 --> 02:51:47,487
Staff has reviewed the

5213
02:51:47,487 --> 02:51:49,887
justification, and finds they

5214
02:51:50,691 --> 02:51:52,259
meet the criteria based upon the

5215
02:51:52,259 --> 02:51:54,659
above consideration, staff finds

5216
02:51:58,766 --> 02:51:59,600
the request approvable, subject

5217
02:51:59,600 --> 02:52:00,334
to conditions

5218
02:52:00,334 --> 02:52:02,360
>> hearing master: okay, thank

5219
02:52:02,360 --> 02:52:04,360
you.

5220
02:52:04,138 --> 02:52:04,905
>> lillian linehan plnning

5221
02:52:04,905 --> 02:52:06,574
commission staff.

5222
02:52:06,574 --> 02:52:09,574
The subject site is located

5223
02:52:16,183 --> 02:52:19,783
within the r-20 area, the urban

5224
02:52:19,820 --> 02:52:21,820
development boundaries.

5225
02:52:23,191 --> 02:52:27,391
To change the land use to r-35

5226
02:52:27,628 --> 02:52:28,929
on folio 3629 will-0000.

5227
02:52:28,929 --> 02:52:31,499
The analysis provided is based

5228
02:52:31,499 --> 02:52:32,660
on this future land use

5229
02:52:32,660 --> 02:52:34,660
amendment.

5230
02:52:35,469 --> 02:52:37,305
Objective 3.1 requires that new

5231
02:52:37,305 --> 02:52:39,705
development be redesigned with

5232
02:52:40,308 --> 02:52:41,909
due consideration, and be

5233
02:52:41,909 --> 02:52:43,210
compatible with the established

5234
02:52:43,210 --> 02:52:45,245
character of the development.

5235
02:52:45,245 --> 02:52:47,782
The subject site is developed

5236
02:52:47,782 --> 02:52:50,685
with the villas and is situated

5237
02:52:50,685 --> 02:52:54,256
in an area that is characterized

5238
02:52:54,256 --> 02:52:56,257
of a diverse mix of commercial,

5239
02:52:56,257 --> 02:52:56,558
institutional and senior living

5240
02:52:56,558 --> 02:52:58,558
uses.

5241
02:52:59,227 --> 02:53:00,995
The surrounding land use

5242
02:53:00,995 --> 02:53:01,663
pattern, and the existing urban

5243
02:53:01,663 --> 02:53:03,665
character of the area.

5244
02:53:03,665 --> 02:53:04,965
The proposed amendment is

5245
02:53:04,965 --> 02:53:06,701
compatible with the existing and

5246
02:53:06,701 --> 02:53:08,236
with the existing planned

5247
02:53:08,236 --> 02:53:10,839
development in the vicinity, as

5248
02:53:10,839 --> 02:53:12,273
it would allow for additional

5249
02:53:12,273 --> 02:53:14,273
residential density.

5250
02:53:15,510 --> 02:53:17,445
while maintaining compatibility

5251
02:53:17,445 --> 02:53:19,845
and community character, with

5252
02:53:20,315 --> 02:53:20,415
13.8 acres and r-35.

5253
02:53:20,415 --> 02:53:22,170
-

5254
02:53:22,170 --> 02:53:25,617
that portion of the subject site

5255
02:53:26,221 --> 02:53:26,521
can consider up to 483 dwelling

5256
02:53:26,521 --> 02:53:28,390
units.

5257
02:53:28,390 --> 02:53:29,524
The proposed request is not

5258
02:53:29,524 --> 02:53:30,891
modified,ed existing development

5259
02:53:30,891 --> 02:53:33,361
program remains within the range

5260
02:53:33,361 --> 02:53:35,960
of uses and development

5261
02:53:35,960 --> 02:53:36,431
intensities, contemplated by the

5262
02:53:36,431 --> 02:53:38,660
future land use designations.

5263
02:53:38,660 --> 02:53:40,466
The proposed planned development

5264
02:53:41,360 --> 02:53:42,300
is also consistent with goal two

5265
02:53:42,300 --> 02:53:43,971
of the university area community

5266
02:53:43,971 --> 02:53:46,371
plan, as it facilitates

5267
02:53:48,209 --> 02:53:50,278
residential uses and an area

5268
02:53:50,278 --> 02:53:50,712
targeted for redevelopment and

5269
02:53:50,712 --> 02:53:52,712
reinvestment.

5270
02:53:54,149 --> 02:53:56,250
The planned development supports

5271
02:53:56,250 --> 02:53:58,120
the expanding of housing

5272
02:53:58,120 --> 02:53:59,955
opportunities and encouraging

5273
02:53:59,955 --> 02:54:00,355
redevelopment of underutilized

5274
02:54:00,355 --> 02:54:02,355
properties.

5275
02:54:02,658 --> 02:54:04,658
The proposed planned

5276
02:54:04,926 --> 02:54:06,661
development, provides on site

5277
02:54:06,661 --> 02:54:07,963
wetlands, making the request

5278
02:54:07,963 --> 02:54:10,199
condition sift end with the

5279
02:54:10,199 --> 02:54:11,834
objectives and policies that

5280
02:54:11,834 --> 02:54:13,101
govern growth in environmentally

5281
02:54:13,101 --> 02:54:14,570
sensitive areas.

5282
02:54:14,570 --> 02:54:15,304
Based on the above

5283
02:54:15,304 --> 02:54:17,304
considerations, and the

5284
02:54:17,906 --> 02:54:20,241
following goals, objectives and

5285
02:54:20,241 --> 02:54:22,241
policies, planning commission

5286
02:54:25,380 --> 02:54:26,810
staff finds this plan consistent

5287
02:54:26,810 --> 02:54:27,916
with the hillsborough county

5288
02:54:27,916 --> 02:54:29,916
comprehensive plan.

5289
02:54:30,185 --> 02:54:32,185
>> tim lampkin again.

5290
02:54:32,421 --> 02:54:34,156
I just realized, hi a couple

5291
02:54:34,156 --> 02:54:36,225
other minor items that will be

5292
02:54:36,225 --> 02:54:37,927
part of a revised staff report,

5293
02:54:37,927 --> 02:54:38,561
and I wanted to put those into

5294
02:54:38,561 --> 02:54:40,561
the record.

5295
02:54:42,398 --> 02:54:44,332
On the cover page, says 6.8 acre

5296
02:54:44,332 --> 02:54:46,602
modified parcel, it should be

5297
02:54:46,602 --> 02:54:48,602
parcel a located.

5298
02:54:49,505 --> 02:54:52,275
And on the 3rd bullet point, add

5299
02:54:52,275 --> 02:54:54,677
a requirement on parcel a just

5300
02:54:54,677 --> 02:54:55,845
to specify for more clarity,

5301
02:54:55,845 --> 02:54:58,245
it's only parcel a.

5302
02:54:58,714 --> 02:55:00,883
And then on the next bullet

5303
02:55:00,883 --> 02:55:03,352
point, cross out the modified

5304
02:55:03,352 --> 02:55:06,352
parcel and just specify parcel

5305
02:55:06,422 --> 02:55:08,391
a, and then on the last

5306
02:55:08,391 --> 02:55:10,159
paragraph, regarding the current

5307
02:55:10,159 --> 02:55:11,961
comprehensive plan amendment,

5308
02:55:11,961 --> 02:55:12,195
crossout modified and put parcel

5309
02:55:12,195 --> 02:55:14,195
a.

5310
02:55:14,896 --> 02:55:16,632
And then on the first bullet

5311
02:55:16,632 --> 02:55:18,967
point, cross out the property

5312
02:55:18,967 --> 02:55:22,567
after six acres and the folio

5313
02:55:24,440 --> 02:55:26,208
number which is 36928-0000.

5314
02:55:26,208 --> 02:55:29,645
And then correct the acreage in

5315
02:55:29,645 --> 02:55:31,313
all instances.

5316
02:55:31,313 --> 02:55:34,313
The density for the requirement,

5317
02:55:34,350 --> 02:55:37,320
it was rounded up to 14, the

5318
02:55:37,320 --> 02:55:39,320
actual is 13.8.

5319
02:55:46,629 --> 02:55:46,963
And then to add 260 adds for

5320
02:55:46,963 --> 02:55:48,963
clarity.

5321
02:55:50,500 --> 02:55:54,700
And on the east set back, on

5322
02:55:55,380 --> 02:55:58,380
page 2 at parcel a250 feet,

5323
02:55:58,708 --> 02:55:59,909
parcel b at 250 feet.

5324
02:55:59,909 --> 02:56:02,309
Parcel d at 35 feet.

5325
02:56:02,946 --> 02:56:03,847
And that concludes, thank you.

5326
02:56:03,847 --> 02:56:05,281
>> hearing master: when do you

5327
02:56:05,281 --> 02:56:05,615
think those changes will be in

5328
02:56:05,615 --> 02:56:06,983
optics?

5329
02:56:06,983 --> 02:56:08,983
>> tomorrow morning.

5330
02:56:10,286 --> 02:56:11,855
>> hearing master: thank you.

5331
02:56:11,855 --> 02:56:13,356
At this point in time, is there

5332
02:56:13,356 --> 02:56:16,356
anyone in the audience that

5333
02:56:17,694 --> 02:56:18,328
wishes to speak in support of

5334
02:56:18,328 --> 02:56:20,328
the application?

5335
02:56:20,463 --> 02:56:22,650
Seeing no one responding, anyone

5336
02:56:22,650 --> 02:56:25,665
in the audience wishing to speak

5337
02:56:25,702 --> 02:56:26,136
in opposition to the

5338
02:56:26,136 --> 02:56:28,136
application?

5339
02:56:29,500 --> 02:56:29,673
Seeing no one responding.

5340
02:56:29,673 --> 02:56:31,673
Staff anything further?

5341
02:56:32,309 --> 02:56:34,544
>> yes, of course, MISS Corbett

5342
02:56:34,544 --> 02:56:36,947
can address this when she comes

5343
02:56:36,947 --> 02:56:38,748
up for her rebuttal, we received

5344
02:56:38,748 --> 02:56:40,217
an email from her today

5345
02:56:40,217 --> 02:56:41,485
regarding some revised

5346
02:56:41,485 --> 02:56:45,850
conditions, and I didn't know if

5347
02:56:46,590 --> 02:56:46,889
she was still proposing those or

5348
02:56:46,889 --> 02:56:48,290
not.

5349
02:56:48,290 --> 02:56:51,290
>> hearing master: we'll let her

5350
02:56:51,962 --> 02:56:54,362
address that on rebuttal.

5351
02:56:55,320 --> 02:56:55,399
Applicant, an opportunity for

5352
02:56:55,399 --> 02:56:57,399
rebuttal?

5353
02:56:58,502 --> 02:57:00,203
>> kami corbett, in reviewing

5354
02:57:00,203 --> 02:57:01,672
them, I think I've decided not

5355
02:57:01,672 --> 02:57:03,940
to pursue them this evening.

5356
02:57:03,940 --> 02:57:05,275
Some of them are nice to have,

5357
02:57:05,275 --> 02:57:06,944
and they're not anything that

5358
02:57:06,944 --> 02:57:07,277
needs to be introduced this

5359
02:57:07,277 --> 02:57:09,277
evening

5360
02:57:13,449 --> 02:57:15,449
>> hearing master: okay.

5361
02:57:15,852 --> 02:57:17,521
I listened to the changes, they

5362
02:57:17,521 --> 02:57:18,856
sounded like typos.

5363
02:57:18,856 --> 02:57:19,256
>> correct, they were

5364
02:57:19,256 --> 02:57:20,690
clarifying.

5365
02:57:20,690 --> 02:57:22,250
Most of the changes we

5366
02:57:22,250 --> 02:57:23,226
submitted, we're clarifying,

5367
02:57:23,226 --> 02:57:24,595
making them better or more

5368
02:57:24,595 --> 02:57:26,463
clear, and that's why I didn't

5369
02:57:26,463 --> 02:57:26,797
go into all of that this

5370
02:57:26,797 --> 02:57:28,599
evening.

5371
02:57:28,599 --> 02:57:30,333
I didn't think it was important.

5372
02:57:30,333 --> 02:57:30,634
>> hearing master: got it.

5373
02:57:30,634 --> 02:57:31,235
Okay.

5374
02:57:31,235 --> 02:57:33,235
Anything else?

5375
02:57:33,237 --> 02:57:33,970
>> no, thank you.

5376
02:57:33,970 --> 02:57:36,370
>> hearing master: with that,

5377
02:57:40,277 --> 02:57:42,677
that concludes this application.

5378
02:57:45,482 --> 02:57:45,849
>> our next application is

5379
02:57:45,849 --> 02:57:47,849
mm26-0822.

5380
02:57:47,851 --> 02:57:50,851
The applicant is requesting a

5381
02:57:52,256 --> 02:57:54,656
modification from pd92-0135.

5382
02:57:54,891 --> 02:57:56,260
Tim lampkin will provide staff's

5383
02:57:56,260 --> 02:57:58,280
findings after the applicant's

5384
02:57:58,280 --> 02:58:00,280
presentation.

5385
02:58:02,660 --> 02:58:03,868
Applicant please opinion.

5386
02:58:03,868 --> 02:58:05,868
>> good evening.

5387
02:58:07,538 --> 02:58:09,538
Todd pressman, 200 second

5388
02:58:10,508 --> 02:58:12,908
avenue, st. Petersburg, florida.

5389
02:58:14,278 --> 02:58:16,278
This is 260822.

5390
02:58:16,546 --> 02:58:17,681
The sd supports, no agency

5391
02:58:17,681 --> 02:58:20,681
objections, and as of this

5392
02:58:22,530 --> 02:58:25,456
morning, there were no emails or

5393
02:58:25,456 --> 02:58:27,592
letters in the record.

5394
02:58:27,592 --> 02:58:28,250
We're in the brandon area, 1.78

5395
02:58:28,250 --> 02:58:30,250
acres.

5396
02:58:31,362 --> 02:58:32,964
Located just immediately south

5397
02:58:32,964 --> 02:58:34,964
of state route 60.

5398
02:58:35,266 --> 02:58:35,833
There are two parcels on

5399
02:58:35,833 --> 02:58:37,502
morningside drive.

5400
02:58:37,502 --> 02:58:39,737
right behind that commercial

5401
02:58:39,737 --> 02:58:41,406
structure as you see there.

5402
02:58:41,406 --> 02:58:44,406
Issue is a major modification

5403
02:58:46,244 --> 02:58:46,945
for multifamily duplex, to multi

5404
02:58:46,945 --> 02:58:48,945
multifamily.

5405
02:58:49,247 --> 02:58:49,647
Proposed 16 units and two

5406
02:58:49,647 --> 02:58:51,647
structures.

5407
02:58:52,817 --> 02:58:54,185
The current pd is 18 duplexes,

5408
02:58:54,185 --> 02:58:56,454
two common buildings, and one

5409
02:58:56,454 --> 02:58:58,454
single family.

5410
02:59:00,992 --> 02:59:01,291
And we're proposing 16 townhome

5411
02:59:01,291 --> 02:59:03,160
units.

5412
02:59:03,160 --> 02:59:04,529
So again two parcels the with

5413
02:59:04,529 --> 02:59:04,928
the commercial building to the

5414
02:59:04,928 --> 02:59:06,631
north.

5415
02:59:06,631 --> 02:59:08,399
Looking at the budding uses is

5416
02:59:08,399 --> 02:59:10,350
the commercial building, you

5417
02:59:10,350 --> 02:59:12,337
have commercial to the west.

5418
02:59:12,337 --> 02:59:14,939
You have a small residential,

5419
02:59:14,939 --> 02:59:17,339
that's also zoned cg.

5420
02:59:17,542 --> 02:59:19,678
To the rear is commercial, and

5421
02:59:19,678 --> 02:59:22,480
to the east are two single

5422
02:59:22,480 --> 02:59:24,249
family residentials.

5423
02:59:24,249 --> 02:59:25,150
Planning commission notes the

5424
02:59:25,150 --> 02:59:27,850
surrounding development,

5425
02:59:27,850 --> 02:59:29,755
consists of a mixture of

5426
02:59:29,755 --> 02:59:31,923
commercial and residential uses.

5427
02:59:31,923 --> 02:59:33,891
Development services notes the

5428
02:59:33,891 --> 02:59:36,891
same thing, a mixture of

5429
02:59:37,128 --> 02:59:39,970
commercial, shopping retail,

5430
02:59:39,970 --> 02:59:41,970
restaurants and automotive

5431
02:59:41,432 --> 02:59:42,330
oriented businesses on brandon

5432
02:59:42,330 --> 02:59:43,835
boulevard.

5433
02:59:43,835 --> 02:59:45,835
With residential subdivision

5434
02:59:46,772 --> 02:59:47,539
generally located # behind the

5435
02:59:47,539 --> 02:59:49,539
commercial frontage.

5436
02:59:49,875 --> 02:59:51,409
Which is what this area is.

5437
02:59:51,409 --> 02:59:52,577
Both those findings are

5438
02:59:52,577 --> 02:59:54,112
important, because it

5439
02:59:54,112 --> 02:59:56,512
characterize the vicinity very

5440
02:59:58,830 --> 02:59:59,618
well, in terms of the

5441
02:59:59,618 --> 03:00:02,180
compatibility or the existence

5442
03:00:02,120 --> 03:00:03,788
of the commercial and the

5443
03:00:03,788 --> 03:00:04,957
residential next to each other

5444
03:00:04,957 --> 03:00:06,957
throughout that corridor.

5445
03:00:08,260 --> 03:00:11,830
So when you look at the zoning,

5446
03:00:11,830 --> 03:00:13,331
you'll see cg, and the rsc-6,

5447
03:00:13,331 --> 03:00:13,731
which is similar to the

5448
03:00:13,731 --> 03:00:15,731
corridor.

5449
03:00:17,134 --> 03:00:19,705
And future land use is oc20,

5450
03:00:19,705 --> 03:00:20,720
which is a more intensive

5451
03:00:20,720 --> 03:00:21,540
category.

5452
03:00:21,540 --> 03:00:24,540
That is reflected along the

5453
03:00:24,877 --> 03:00:27,112
corridor as the zoning is.

5454
03:00:27,112 --> 03:00:29,848
So the east abutting, in terms

5455
03:00:29,848 --> 03:00:31,215
of the abutting uses, I'm

5456
03:00:31,215 --> 03:00:33,318
showing you the townhome

5457
03:00:33,318 --> 03:00:35,587
structure, that is the eastern

5458
03:00:35,587 --> 03:00:36,722
townhome structure, there's 2.

5459
03:00:36,722 --> 03:00:38,824
Looking specifically at the

5460
03:00:38,824 --> 03:00:41,393
buffer, we show on the plan, a

5461
03:00:41,393 --> 03:00:43,562
20 foot building set back and a

5462
03:00:43,562 --> 03:00:43,862
10 foot type a with ornamental

5463
03:00:43,862 --> 03:00:45,862
trees.

5464
03:00:46,365 --> 03:00:47,566
As we went through a lot of

5465
03:00:47,566 --> 03:00:49,268
discussions, both with natural

5466
03:00:49,268 --> 03:00:50,436
resources and the staff, on the

5467
03:00:50,436 --> 03:00:53,239
certified plan, we're going to

5468
03:00:53,239 --> 03:00:56,342
show that as a 15 foot buffer.

5469
03:00:56,342 --> 03:01:00,542
So we were able to expand that

5470
03:01:01,813 --> 03:01:03,115
additional 5 feet, primarily cr

5471
03:01:03,115 --> 03:01:05,184
roads and transportation found

5472
03:01:05,184 --> 03:01:06,886
us a few extra feet, so that

5473
03:01:06,886 --> 03:01:08,254
will be five feet extra on this

5474
03:01:08,254 --> 03:01:10,890
site, I want to highlight that

5475
03:01:10,890 --> 03:01:12,457
to you, so there's no confusion

5476
03:01:12,457 --> 03:01:13,659
when you look at the pd plan.

5477
03:01:13,659 --> 03:01:14,660
Importantly, on that eastside,

5478
03:01:14,660 --> 03:01:17,600
as I have it.

5479
03:01:18,464 --> 03:01:19,365
I have it as 125 feet from

5480
03:01:19,365 --> 03:01:21,365
building to building.

5481
03:01:21,600 --> 03:01:24,437
The two residentials are located

5482
03:01:24,437 --> 03:01:27,437
pretty far from this site.

5483
03:01:27,940 --> 03:01:30,643
They're located fronting on the

5484
03:01:30,643 --> 03:01:31,430
access street, which is

5485
03:01:31,430 --> 03:01:31,911
morningside

5486
03:01:31,911 --> 03:01:33,911
morningside.

5487
03:01:38,885 --> 03:01:40,453
So there is a lot of physical

5488
03:01:40,453 --> 03:01:41,420
separation between the two on

5489
03:01:41,420 --> 03:01:43,122
the eastside.

5490
03:01:43,122 --> 03:01:44,924
And just to give you an idea,

5491
03:01:44,924 --> 03:01:46,659
you can see the station behind

5492
03:01:46,659 --> 03:01:48,161
the site, these are the

5493
03:01:48,161 --> 03:01:50,561
residential -- the two

5494
03:01:50,863 --> 03:01:51,497
residentials, you see the front

5495
03:01:51,497 --> 03:01:53,497
on morningside.

5496
03:01:53,833 --> 03:01:54,834
On the west, I'm showing you the

5497
03:01:54,834 --> 03:01:57,234
single townhome structure as

5498
03:01:57,336 --> 03:01:59,736
well on the west.

5499
03:02:00,640 --> 03:02:02,709
The plan shows the 10-foot

5500
03:02:02,709 --> 03:02:04,844
building set back, we'll be able

5501
03:02:04,844 --> 03:02:07,844
to expand that another five

5502
03:02:08,140 --> 03:02:11,140
feet, on this certified plan

5503
03:02:11,160 --> 03:02:14,187
will show a 5 foot -- a 10 foot

5504
03:02:14,187 --> 03:02:16,455
wide buffer, versus the 5 foot,

5505
03:02:16,455 --> 03:02:16,756
we're going to eke out another 5

5506
03:02:16,756 --> 03:02:18,357
feet.

5507
03:02:18,357 --> 03:02:20,393
It's important to know that

5508
03:02:20,393 --> 03:02:22,462
residential structure is only

5509
03:02:22,462 --> 03:02:24,397
half of the distance, the other

5510
03:02:24,397 --> 03:02:26,797
distance is commercial activity,

5511
03:02:27,967 --> 03:02:30,367
and commercial zoning where

5512
03:02:30,670 --> 03:02:32,720
notes come.

5513
03:02:32,720 --> 03:02:33,106
And there's substantial

5514
03:02:33,106 --> 03:02:34,674
forestation and screening, that

5515
03:02:34,674 --> 03:02:36,710
would be above and beyond what

5516
03:02:36,710 --> 03:02:38,710
code calls for.

5517
03:02:40,213 --> 03:02:41,648
I have it as 35 feet, but again,

5518
03:02:41,648 --> 03:02:43,215
with some good screening between

5519
03:02:43,215 --> 03:02:44,718
the two.

5520
03:02:44,718 --> 03:02:46,852
Development services notes with

5521
03:02:46,852 --> 03:02:48,155
the additional proposed

5522
03:02:48,155 --> 03:02:50,190
buffering and screening, they

5523
03:02:50,190 --> 03:02:52,526
find the uses compatible and

5524
03:02:52,526 --> 03:02:54,694
supportable, with the additional

5525
03:02:54,694 --> 03:02:55,610
proposed landscaping and

5526
03:02:55,610 --> 03:02:55,796
buffering.

5527
03:02:55,796 --> 03:02:58,196
Planning commission notes that

5528
03:02:58,565 --> 03:03:00,333
the attached homes would provide

5529
03:03:00,333 --> 03:03:03,333
a residential use that is

5530
03:03:05,380 --> 03:03:07,307
compatible with the existing

5531
03:03:07,307 --> 03:03:08,775
residential.

5532
03:03:08,775 --> 03:03:09,509
Compatible with existing

5533
03:03:09,509 --> 03:03:11,909
development patterns around the

5534
03:03:12,411 --> 03:03:13,947
area.

5535
03:03:13,947 --> 03:03:15,381
It is substantially below the

5536
03:03:15,381 --> 03:03:18,381
maximum that could be allowed.

5537
03:03:18,651 --> 03:03:21,651
It is consistent with valrico

5538
03:03:21,822 --> 03:03:23,156
community goal plan 1.

5539
03:03:23,156 --> 03:03:24,458
Strategy 2, also important to

5540
03:03:24,458 --> 03:03:26,560
notice, this would be a

5541
03:03:26,560 --> 03:03:29,295
reduction of trips, not a lot,

5542
03:03:29,295 --> 03:03:31,970
it would be 23 in the 24 hour

5543
03:03:31,970 --> 03:03:32,232
volume, and just a little bit in

5544
03:03:32,232 --> 03:03:33,500
the A.M. And peak hour.

5545
03:03:33,500 --> 03:03:37,100
With that, we're happy to answer

5546
03:03:38,939 --> 03:03:39,606
the questions you MAY have.

5547
03:03:39,606 --> 03:03:42,600
>> hearing master: you went

5548
03:03:42,476 --> 03:03:44,478
through how you added five feet

5549
03:03:44,478 --> 03:03:45,679
additional buffering side.

5550
03:03:45,679 --> 03:03:49,279
the staff met with you and

5551
03:03:49,616 --> 03:03:51,685
discussed that, and are they

5552
03:03:51,685 --> 03:03:52,786
supporting the variance to the

5553
03:03:52,786 --> 03:03:54,521
landscaping buffering?

5554
03:03:54,521 --> 03:03:55,789
>> yeah, supporting it along

5555
03:03:55,789 --> 03:03:56,223
with the change I indicated to

5556
03:03:56,223 --> 03:03:58,223
you, yes.

5557
03:03:58,459 --> 03:03:59,193
Both on the east and west.

5558
03:03:59,193 --> 03:04:01,462
>> hearing master: got it, thank

5559
03:04:01,462 --> 03:04:03,462
you.

5560
03:04:03,797 --> 03:04:05,833
At this point -- are you done?

5561
03:04:05,833 --> 03:04:06,567
>> yes, thank you.

5562
03:04:06,567 --> 03:04:07,234
>> hearing master: development

5563
03:04:07,234 --> 03:04:09,234
services staff?

5564
03:04:10,104 --> 03:04:12,104
>> good evening.

5565
03:04:12,640 --> 03:04:14,508
And to clarify, the applicant is

5566
03:04:14,508 --> 03:04:17,111
not requesting any variance of

5567
03:04:17,111 --> 03:04:18,312
the buffer, but I'll go through

5568
03:04:18,312 --> 03:04:21,312
it, and make certain that

5569
03:04:25,860 --> 03:04:27,922
portion is really clear and why

5570
03:04:27,922 --> 03:04:29,757
he is -- staff had compatibility

5571
03:04:29,757 --> 03:04:31,993
concerns du to the proximity of

5572
03:04:31,993 --> 03:04:34,796
the structure, to the existing

5573
03:04:34,796 --> 03:04:35,363
single family home to the east

5574
03:04:35,363 --> 03:04:37,231
and to the southwest.

5575
03:04:37,231 --> 03:04:38,799
And due to that, I reached out

5576
03:04:38,799 --> 03:04:42,399
to the applicant and as the

5577
03:04:43,104 --> 03:04:44,839
applicant stated, transportation

5578
03:04:44,839 --> 03:04:47,839
planner was able to determine

5579
03:04:47,842 --> 03:04:49,810
that there was a road didn't --

5580
03:04:49,810 --> 03:04:51,612
the road didn't need to be as

5581
03:04:51,612 --> 03:04:53,581
wide as the applicant initially

5582
03:04:53,581 --> 03:04:55,450
thought, so there was an

5583
03:04:55,450 --> 03:04:56,918
additional ten feet, and the

5584
03:04:56,918 --> 03:04:59,318
applicant provided to increase

5585
03:05:02,690 --> 03:05:06,890
the buffer on the west -- I'm

5586
03:05:07,462 --> 03:05:09,797
sorry, on the west side from 5

5587
03:05:09,797 --> 03:05:11,797
feet to 10.

5588
03:05:13,435 --> 03:05:15,803
Yeah, from five feet to 10 feet

5589
03:05:15,803 --> 03:05:18,803
type a with ornamental trees.

5590
03:05:19,641 --> 03:05:22,641
Where before they were proposing

5591
03:05:25,847 --> 03:05:26,147
a 10-foot -- I'm sorry, a 5-foot

5592
03:05:26,147 --> 03:05:28,830
with.

5593
03:05:28,830 --> 03:05:32,283
Let me look at the site plan.

5594
03:05:38,793 --> 03:05:40,562
Bear with me one second.

5595
03:05:40,562 --> 03:05:42,497
Essentially they increased the

5596
03:05:42,497 --> 03:05:45,497
buffer 5 feet on each side.

5597
03:05:47,702 --> 03:05:50,839
And it increases the set back 5

5598
03:05:50,839 --> 03:05:52,440
feet on each side.

5599
03:05:52,440 --> 03:05:53,542
Doing that staff was able to

5600
03:05:53,542 --> 03:05:55,542
find it supportable.

5601
03:05:56,577 --> 03:05:59,514
The applicant's request is to

5602
03:05:59,514 --> 03:06:01,490
develop 16 townhomes, and two

5603
03:06:01,490 --> 03:06:03,490
different structures, replacing

5604
03:06:08,900 --> 03:06:10,900
the existing entitlements.

5605
03:06:10,920 --> 03:06:13,692
And -- and as the applicant

5606
03:06:13,795 --> 03:06:15,230
stated, there is a substantial

5607
03:06:15,230 --> 03:06:17,266
distance from the single family

5608
03:06:17,266 --> 03:06:20,266
home, however, if someone sells,

5609
03:06:20,568 --> 03:06:22,170
they could be a lot closer than

5610
03:06:22,170 --> 03:06:24,570
they are right now.

5611
03:06:24,773 --> 03:06:26,341
The applicant's requesting

5612
03:06:26,341 --> 03:06:28,576
relief, though, he's not

5613
03:06:28,576 --> 03:06:29,611
requesting any variations, he's

5614
03:06:29,611 --> 03:06:30,813
skieding the land development

5615
03:06:30,813 --> 03:06:32,813
code requirements.

5616
03:06:33,480 --> 03:06:35,160
He's requesting relief from the

5617
03:06:35,160 --> 03:06:36,852
additional 2 for 1, which is one

5618
03:06:36,852 --> 03:06:38,353
additional foot for every foot

5619
03:06:38,353 --> 03:06:39,854
over 20 feet.

5620
03:06:39,854 --> 03:06:41,560
So he's going 35.

5621
03:06:41,560 --> 03:06:43,560
That's 30 feet.

5622
03:06:43,892 --> 03:06:46,892
And he's not meeting that.

5623
03:06:47,895 --> 03:06:49,564
And he's provided justification

5624
03:06:49,564 --> 03:06:51,867
within his narrative for the

5625
03:06:51,867 --> 03:06:53,836
relief of the additional 30 foot

5626
03:06:53,836 --> 03:06:55,237
set back, for the proposed

5627
03:06:55,237 --> 03:06:57,138
townhome height, and adjacent

5628
03:06:57,138 --> 03:06:58,908
single family homes.

5629
03:06:58,908 --> 03:07:00,376
The applicant is required --

5630
03:07:00,376 --> 03:07:02,912
normally, he would be required

5631
03:07:02,912 --> 03:07:04,213
to provide a 5 foot wide buffer

5632
03:07:04,213 --> 03:07:06,613
with type a screening.

5633
03:07:06,715 --> 03:07:07,583
In lieu of not meeting the

5634
03:07:07,583 --> 03:07:09,510
additional compatibility

5635
03:07:09,510 --> 03:07:12,510
standard for the height, over

5636
03:07:13,540 --> 03:07:14,856
20, he's enhancing the buffer.

5637
03:07:14,856 --> 03:07:16,158
Staff does note that the current

5638
03:07:16,158 --> 03:07:18,558
approval limits development on

5639
03:07:20,129 --> 03:07:22,640
the subject property to 18

5640
03:07:22,640 --> 03:07:24,464
one-story duplex structures with

5641
03:07:24,800 --> 03:07:27,800
a maximum density of 11 units

5642
03:07:33,276 --> 03:07:33,776
per acre, as established by

5643
03:07:33,776 --> 03:07:35,776
pd92-0135.

5644
03:07:36,612 --> 03:07:37,880
And the applicant also has

5645
03:07:37,880 --> 03:07:39,880
provided further justification

5646
03:07:40,983 --> 03:07:41,317
with their narrative request for

5647
03:07:41,317 --> 03:07:43,317
relief.

5648
03:07:44,487 --> 03:07:45,188
Further proposed, 30 foot

5649
03:07:45,188 --> 03:07:47,230
townhome height.

5650
03:07:47,230 --> 03:07:49,423
staff acknowledges the existing

5651
03:07:49,692 --> 03:07:51,270
single family residence on the

5652
03:07:51,270 --> 03:07:52,628
adjacent property situated

5653
03:07:52,628 --> 03:07:54,300
toward the front portion of the

5654
03:07:54,300 --> 03:07:55,531
parcel, and currently separated

5655
03:07:55,531 --> 03:07:57,567
by a proposed development,

5656
03:07:57,567 --> 03:07:59,368
however, the zoning of the

5657
03:07:59,368 --> 03:08:01,768
parcel would allow redevelopment

5658
03:08:02,500 --> 03:08:03,840
and a setback of 25 feet.

5659
03:08:03,840 --> 03:08:06,240
Therefore, staff evaluated it

5660
03:08:07,610 --> 03:08:08,577
the way we did, based upon what

5661
03:08:08,577 --> 03:08:10,313
could be built there.

5662
03:08:10,313 --> 03:08:11,648
With the additional proposed

5663
03:08:11,648 --> 03:08:13,648
buffering and screening.

5664
03:08:14,751 --> 03:08:17,151
Staff finds the proposed

5665
03:08:19,656 --> 03:08:20,856
mitigated, and the uses

5666
03:08:20,856 --> 03:08:22,458
compatible with the support, the

5667
03:08:22,458 --> 03:08:24,458
additional proposed landscaping

5668
03:08:24,527 --> 03:08:26,429
and buffering, and based upon

5669
03:08:26,429 --> 03:08:29,429
all that, staff finds the

5670
03:08:29,733 --> 03:08:30,333
request approvable.

5671
03:08:30,333 --> 03:08:32,333
>> hearing master: okay.

5672
03:08:32,402 --> 03:08:33,803
Thank you.

5673
03:08:33,803 --> 03:08:35,803
Planning commission staff?

5674
03:08:36,390 --> 03:08:36,939
>> lily linehan, planning

5675
03:08:36,939 --> 03:08:38,939
commission staff.

5676
03:08:39,309 --> 03:08:40,976
The site is designated as office

5677
03:08:40,976 --> 03:08:41,545
commercial 20 on the future land

5678
03:08:41,545 --> 03:08:43,545
use map.

5679
03:08:43,913 --> 03:08:46,583
The site is within the urban

5680
03:08:46,583 --> 03:08:48,752
service area within the limits

5681
03:08:48,752 --> 03:08:50,219
of the valrico community plan.

5682
03:08:50,219 --> 03:08:51,521
There's a transition between

5683
03:08:51,521 --> 03:08:52,956
established commercial and

5684
03:08:52,956 --> 03:08:54,224
residential development.

5685
03:08:54,224 --> 03:08:55,325
There are commercial uses

5686
03:08:55,325 --> 03:08:56,393
located to the north and wet of

5687
03:08:56,393 --> 03:08:58,361
the site.

5688
03:08:58,361 --> 03:09:00,263
And residential is located to

5689
03:09:00,263 --> 03:09:01,798
the south and east.

5690
03:09:01,798 --> 03:09:04,798
This is compatible with the

5691
03:09:06,169 --> 03:09:08,710
existing residential uses and

5692
03:09:08,710 --> 03:09:10,574
provides an appropriate use --

5693
03:09:10,574 --> 03:09:12,974
under flu objective 2.2 and

5694
03:09:13,710 --> 03:09:15,710
policy 2.2.1, the category

5695
03:09:17,380 --> 03:09:20,380
allows for the consideration of

5696
03:09:20,650 --> 03:09:23,500
compatible development with a

5697
03:09:24,121 --> 03:09:26,521
maximum capacity of 708 acres,

5698
03:09:29,526 --> 03:09:31,762
up to 35 dwelling units MAY be

5699
03:09:31,762 --> 03:09:33,762
considered, approximately 9

5700
03:09:35,966 --> 03:09:38,966
dwelling units per acre, which

5701
03:09:39,102 --> 03:09:42,102
is below the max allowed.

5702
03:09:44,107 --> 03:09:47,707
This meets the objective of flu

5703
03:09:48,478 --> 03:09:49,647
1.1, objective 4.4, and 4.4.1,

5704
03:09:49,647 --> 03:09:50,481
by providing appropriate

5705
03:09:50,481 --> 03:09:51,749
transition between the

5706
03:09:51,749 --> 03:09:52,416
commercial and residential uses

5707
03:09:52,416 --> 03:09:54,416
that are existing.

5708
03:09:55,452 --> 03:09:58,452
The proposed density is below

5709
03:09:59,890 --> 03:10:01,890
the maximum presented.

5710
03:10:01,358 --> 03:10:04,358
The applicant is also proposing

5711
03:10:04,495 --> 03:10:07,231
to preserve the existing natural

5712
03:10:07,231 --> 03:10:09,631
forestation along the site.

5713
03:10:10,334 --> 03:10:12,937
And providing forest taking for

5714
03:10:12,937 --> 03:10:13,336
the adjacent residential

5715
03:10:13,336 --> 03:10:15,336
properties.

5716
03:10:15,573 --> 03:10:17,973
Morningside drive is a

5717
03:10:18,800 --> 03:10:20,770
substandard roadway, and has

5718
03:10:20,770 --> 03:10:21,879
committed to road improvements.

5719
03:10:21,879 --> 03:10:24,181
And these commitments are

5720
03:10:24,181 --> 03:10:25,783
consistent with the

5721
03:10:25,783 --> 03:10:27,783
infrastructure and mobility

5722
03:10:28,152 --> 03:10:28,719
goals of the valrico community

5723
03:10:28,719 --> 03:10:29,687
plan.

5724
03:10:29,687 --> 03:10:32,870
The planning commission staff

5725
03:10:32,723 --> 03:10:34,458
finds the major modification

5726
03:10:34,458 --> 03:10:35,126
consistent with the

5727
03:10:35,126 --> 03:10:35,760
unincorporated hillsborough

5728
03:10:35,760 --> 03:10:37,528
county comprehensive plan.

5729
03:10:37,528 --> 03:10:39,928
Subject to conditions proposed

5730
03:10:40,598 --> 03:10:40,998
by the development services

5731
03:10:40,998 --> 03:10:42,998
department.

5732
03:10:44,135 --> 03:10:44,869
>> hearing master: thank you.

5733
03:10:44,869 --> 03:10:45,936
Is there anyone in the audience

5734
03:10:45,936 --> 03:10:46,904
that wishes to speak in support

5735
03:10:46,904 --> 03:10:48,904
of the application?

5736
03:10:49,841 --> 03:10:51,309
Seeing no one responding?

5737
03:10:51,309 --> 03:10:53,376
Anyone in the audience wish to

5738
03:10:53,376 --> 03:10:53,778
speak in opposition to the

5739
03:10:53,778 --> 03:10:55,778
application.

5740
03:10:56,179 --> 03:10:56,781
Seeing no one responding.

5741
03:10:56,781 --> 03:10:58,781
Staff, anything further?

5742
03:10:59,450 --> 03:11:00,952
>> no, sir.

5743
03:11:00,952 --> 03:11:02,530
>> hearing master: applicant, an

5744
03:11:02,530 --> 03:11:04,530
opportunity for rebuttal?

5745
03:11:04,355 --> 03:11:06,958
>> just to put on the record, we

5746
03:11:06,958 --> 03:11:08,593
noticed 24 people, I believe we

5747
03:11:08,593 --> 03:11:10,561
noticed twice, we've had no

5748
03:11:10,561 --> 03:11:11,296
feedback or response, thank you.

5749
03:11:11,296 --> 03:11:12,397
>> hearing master: thank you,

5750
03:11:12,397 --> 03:11:15,397
with that, this concludes this

5751
03:11:17,201 --> 03:11:19,201
application.

5752
03:11:20,371 --> 03:11:23,140
We are ready for the next case.

5753
03:11:23,140 --> 03:11:25,140
>> pd26-0974.

5754
03:11:25,276 --> 03:11:28,276
The applicant is requesting to

5755
03:11:30,150 --> 03:11:33,150
rezone property from as-1 to

5756
03:11:33,684 --> 03:11:35,684
planned development.

5757
03:11:40,825 --> 03:11:41,393
Chris granlinier will present

5758
03:11:41,393 --> 03:11:43,393
after the applicant's

5759
03:11:44,629 --> 03:11:45,864
presentation.

5760
03:11:45,864 --> 03:11:46,197
>> hearing master: applicant

5761
03:11:46,197 --> 03:11:48,197
please.

5762
03:11:49,200 --> 03:11:51,269
>> good evening, brian deon,

5763
03:11:51,269 --> 03:11:53,669
johnson pope, 400 north ashley

5764
03:11:55,539 --> 03:11:57,539
drive, tampa florida.

5765
03:11:57,909 --> 03:11:58,510
I'm here on behalf of the

5766
03:11:58,510 --> 03:12:00,510
applicant.

5767
03:12:03,140 --> 03:12:04,249
Leaders company, llc, regarding

5768
03:12:04,249 --> 03:12:06,551
pd26-0974, the proposed

5769
03:12:06,551 --> 03:12:08,653
development consists of a single

5770
03:12:08,653 --> 03:12:11,530
story convenience store of

5771
03:12:11,890 --> 03:12:12,256
approximately 4,852 square feet,

5772
03:12:12,256 --> 03:12:15,256
with a maximum of 12 fueling

5773
03:12:15,427 --> 03:12:17,427
stations.

5774
03:12:17,729 --> 03:12:21,298
The request is to change the use

5775
03:12:21,298 --> 03:12:23,468
category from as-1 to pd.

5776
03:12:23,468 --> 03:12:26,468
The future land use category

5777
03:12:28,774 --> 03:12:30,409
will remain unchanged.

5778
03:12:30,409 --> 03:12:33,409
Staff has identified some issues

5779
03:12:33,545 --> 03:12:36,415
today that I wish to aggress.

5780
03:12:36,415 --> 03:12:38,717
-- address, that really fall

5781
03:12:38,717 --> 03:12:40,518
into two separate categories.

5782
03:12:40,518 --> 03:12:41,119
Is this a neighborhood serving

5783
03:12:41,119 --> 03:12:42,387
commercial development

5784
03:12:42,387 --> 03:12:44,156
appropriate at this location?

5785
03:12:44,156 --> 03:12:45,491
And the record demonstrates that

5786
03:12:45,491 --> 03:12:47,580
it is.

5787
03:12:47,580 --> 03:12:49,127
The second question involves

5788
03:12:49,127 --> 03:12:51,127
several technical matters

5789
03:12:51,262 --> 03:12:53,265
concerning wetlands, really two

5790
03:12:53,265 --> 03:12:54,866
separate issues, wetlands and

5791
03:12:54,866 --> 03:12:56,866
transportation issues that

5792
03:12:57,870 --> 03:13:00,105
remain to be finalized, and

5793
03:13:00,105 --> 03:13:01,640
we're asking to condition our

5794
03:13:01,640 --> 03:13:03,475
development on addressing those

5795
03:13:03,475 --> 03:13:06,645
two matters, which I will get

5796
03:13:06,645 --> 03:13:07,880
into more detail with.

5797
03:13:07,880 --> 03:13:10,280
While we understand there's

5798
03:13:10,449 --> 03:13:11,884
legitimate issues that are being

5799
03:13:11,884 --> 03:13:13,118
addressed through -- that need

5800
03:13:13,118 --> 03:13:15,321
to be addressed through

5801
03:13:15,321 --> 03:13:18,321
subsequent approvals, this is a

5802
03:13:18,891 --> 03:13:20,626
pd rezoning application.

5803
03:13:20,626 --> 03:13:21,930
Our request today is rather

5804
03:13:21,930 --> 03:13:22,762
straightforward.

5805
03:13:22,762 --> 03:13:25,464
We approve the land use, subject

5806
03:13:25,464 --> 03:13:28,200
to the conditions that we are

5807
03:13:28,200 --> 03:13:31,800
going to request, and ask the

5808
03:13:33,720 --> 03:13:33,472
county to consider with this pd

5809
03:13:33,472 --> 03:13:35,472
application.

5810
03:13:36,876 --> 03:13:37,710
The site would be used for a

5811
03:13:37,710 --> 03:13:38,770
convenience store for gas

5812
03:13:38,770 --> 03:13:40,770
stations.

5813
03:13:40,646 --> 03:13:43,616
There would be a maximum of 12

5814
03:13:43,616 --> 03:13:43,916
pumps and a canopy serving those

5815
03:13:43,916 --> 03:13:45,916
pumps.

5816
03:13:47,253 --> 03:13:47,687
We meet isr and far

5817
03:13:47,687 --> 03:13:48,655
requirements.

5818
03:13:48,655 --> 03:13:50,655
Building coverage requirements,

5819
03:13:51,123 --> 03:13:51,591
and parking space

5820
03:13:51,591 --> 03:13:53,458
requirementsing.

5821
03:13:53,458 --> 03:13:57,580
The building would be one story.

5822
03:13:57,230 --> 03:13:59,365
We have implemented front rear

5823
03:13:59,365 --> 03:14:02,965
and side set backs that match

5824
03:14:02,969 --> 03:14:03,702
the set backs that are

5825
03:14:03,702 --> 03:14:06,102
consistent with the surrounding

5826
03:14:06,105 --> 03:14:08,105
area.

5827
03:14:09,642 --> 03:14:11,544
This is the general location of

5828
03:14:11,544 --> 03:14:13,544
the property.

5829
03:14:14,130 --> 03:14:16,449
Surrounding this area, first and

5830
03:14:16,449 --> 03:14:18,151
foremost, we have veterans

5831
03:14:18,151 --> 03:14:18,818
highway, which is.3 miles from

5832
03:14:18,818 --> 03:14:20,818
the site.

5833
03:14:25,425 --> 03:14:27,327
And there's also additional

5834
03:14:27,327 --> 03:14:28,861
storefronts, there's walmart 1.3

5835
03:14:28,861 --> 03:14:30,563
miles away.

5836
03:14:30,563 --> 03:14:33,199
There are restaurants that are

5837
03:14:33,199 --> 03:14:36,169
about 2 miles away as well, such

5838
03:14:36,169 --> 03:14:37,770
as olive garden.

5839
03:14:37,770 --> 03:14:40,240
This is the plan, which I am

5840
03:14:40,240 --> 03:14:41,908
going to provide a little more

5841
03:14:41,908 --> 03:14:43,576
zoomed in version of it.

5842
03:14:43,576 --> 03:14:44,778
In the red shows the general

5843
03:14:44,778 --> 03:14:44,878
location of the building.

5844
03:14:44,878 --> 03:14:46,878
-

5845
03:14:47,714 --> 03:14:50,350
as mentioned, it is within the

5846
03:14:50,350 --> 03:14:53,350
wetlands setback, which we are

5847
03:14:53,987 --> 03:14:56,890
asking to condition the pd

5848
03:14:56,890 --> 03:14:57,123
approval on a variance for the

5849
03:14:57,123 --> 03:14:59,590
wetlands set back itself.

5850
03:14:59,590 --> 03:15:01,428
and then you can see the buffers

5851
03:15:01,428 --> 03:15:01,795
that we have set up around the

5852
03:15:01,795 --> 03:15:03,795
property.

5853
03:15:03,997 --> 03:15:07,597
The wetland just to show you

5854
03:15:07,801 --> 03:15:09,101
visually is in the northwest

5855
03:15:09,101 --> 03:15:11,501
corner of the property.

5856
03:15:13,640 --> 03:15:16,710
And we would also be developing

5857
03:15:16,710 --> 03:15:18,678
sidewalks and pedestrians access

5858
03:15:18,678 --> 03:15:19,880
points for -- that are 10 feet

5859
03:15:19,880 --> 03:15:22,349
wide, that would provide a

5860
03:15:22,349 --> 03:15:25,349
sidewalk itself, but also allow

5861
03:15:34,928 --> 03:15:38,528
for bikes to traverse in the

5862
03:15:43,537 --> 03:15:45,406
immediate area.

5863
03:15:45,406 --> 03:15:46,706
The property -- I do have my

5864
03:15:46,706 --> 03:15:47,808
engineer here, who can address

5865
03:15:47,808 --> 03:15:49,376
the drives in and out, as well

5866
03:15:49,376 --> 03:15:51,376
as the sidewalks.

5867
03:15:52,546 --> 03:15:54,946
>> good evening, jeremy anderson

5868
03:15:55,683 --> 03:15:56,250
here, with common oak

5869
03:15:56,250 --> 03:15:57,618
engineering, orlando.

5870
03:15:57,618 --> 03:15:58,918
Thank you for the opportunity to

5871
03:15:58,918 --> 03:16:00,955
be here before you tonight.

5872
03:16:00,955 --> 03:16:03,657
I'm going to talk a little bit

5873
03:16:03,657 --> 03:16:05,592
about the proposed driveway

5874
03:16:05,592 --> 03:16:06,193
access points that are proposed.

5875
03:16:06,193 --> 03:16:08,193
>> hearing master: okay.

5876
03:16:08,461 --> 03:16:11,198
>> we have a right in, right out

5877
03:16:11,198 --> 03:16:13,598
driveway, proposed to bellamy

5878
03:16:13,934 --> 03:16:15,436
road, which is the drive on the

5879
03:16:15,436 --> 03:16:15,736
east end side of the project

5880
03:16:15,736 --> 03:16:17,736
there.

5881
03:16:20,874 --> 03:16:22,409
It is proposed to be restricted

5882
03:16:22,409 --> 03:16:24,809
with a raised median.

5883
03:16:26,579 --> 03:16:27,380
The driveway access includes

5884
03:16:27,380 --> 03:16:29,380
right-of-way expansion.

5885
03:16:29,750 --> 03:16:31,852
This driveway is going to be

5886
03:16:31,852 --> 03:16:34,852
designed in conformance with the

5887
03:16:36,257 --> 03:16:36,624
traffic study that has been

5888
03:16:36,624 --> 03:16:38,624
prepared.

5889
03:16:38,625 --> 03:16:39,794
And again is going to include a

5890
03:16:39,794 --> 03:16:41,929
raised median as well.

5891
03:16:41,929 --> 03:16:42,663
It will include a right-of-way

5892
03:16:42,663 --> 03:16:43,898
expansion on both sides of the

5893
03:16:43,898 --> 03:16:45,898
road.

5894
03:16:47,680 --> 03:16:49,937
We will be working with the

5895
03:16:49,937 --> 03:16:51,720
county on that expansion, on the

5896
03:16:51,720 --> 03:16:53,720
east hand side.

5897
03:16:56,511 --> 03:16:58,911
For the driveway connection

5898
03:16:59,130 --> 03:17:00,681
onner lick, it's another right

5899
03:17:00,681 --> 03:17:03,810
in, right out driveway.

5900
03:17:03,951 --> 03:17:05,419
it includes a left turn lane

5901
03:17:05,419 --> 03:17:05,820
extension for the eastbound

5902
03:17:05,820 --> 03:17:07,820
driver.

5903
03:17:09,257 --> 03:17:12,193
And a new right turn lane into

5904
03:17:12,193 --> 03:17:12,694
the property for that westbound

5905
03:17:12,694 --> 03:17:14,694
driver.

5906
03:17:16,630 --> 03:17:18,433
Once again, that right turn lane

5907
03:17:18,433 --> 03:17:19,634
is going to require an expansion

5908
03:17:19,634 --> 03:17:21,269
of the right-of-way.

5909
03:17:21,269 --> 03:17:24,869
Not only for the right turn

5910
03:17:25,573 --> 03:17:28,141
lane, but also the multiuse

5911
03:17:28,141 --> 03:17:30,678
trail that's depicted there and

5912
03:17:30,678 --> 03:17:32,146
a crossed hatch manner.

5913
03:17:32,146 --> 03:17:34,546
Utilities -- utility services

5914
03:17:35,316 --> 03:17:36,117
are available, there's a force

5915
03:17:36,117 --> 03:17:37,652
main available for connection on

5916
03:17:37,652 --> 03:17:39,652
the right-of-way.

5917
03:17:39,820 --> 03:17:42,690
There's a 20 inch water main

5918
03:17:42,690 --> 03:17:44,626
located as well.

5919
03:17:44,626 --> 03:17:46,894
So again, public utility

5920
03:17:46,894 --> 03:17:47,261
services are available to the

5921
03:17:47,261 --> 03:17:48,997
property.

5922
03:17:48,997 --> 03:17:51,599
On site storm water management,

5923
03:17:51,599 --> 03:17:55,199
once the trips are captured on

5924
03:17:55,803 --> 03:17:58,172
site, all the maneuvers will be

5925
03:17:58,172 --> 03:18:00,800
confined in the property itself.

5926
03:18:00,800 --> 03:18:01,443
So I want to run through that.

5927
03:18:01,443 --> 03:18:02,477
And I thank you again for the

5928
03:18:02,477 --> 03:18:04,877
opportunity to do so.

5929
03:18:05,780 --> 03:18:08,180
>> hearing master: thank you.

5930
03:18:08,316 --> 03:18:09,785
>> as skbrar my mentioned, the

5931
03:18:09,785 --> 03:18:10,452
property is located within the

5932
03:18:10,452 --> 03:18:12,452
urban service area.

5933
03:18:13,655 --> 03:18:14,823
The comprehensive plan

5934
03:18:14,823 --> 03:18:15,190
contemplates growth within the

5935
03:18:15,190 --> 03:18:17,190
community.

5936
03:18:18,126 --> 03:18:19,260
And this is a prime spot for

5937
03:18:19,260 --> 03:18:21,660
that type of growth.

5938
03:18:21,830 --> 03:18:23,830
The county's commercial

5939
03:18:25,300 --> 03:18:27,168
locational criteria is met by

5940
03:18:27,168 --> 03:18:27,469
this location and the proposed

5941
03:18:27,469 --> 03:18:29,469
use.

5942
03:18:30,572 --> 03:18:30,906
The criteria exists for a

5943
03:18:30,906 --> 03:18:32,906
reason.

5944
03:18:33,750 --> 03:18:35,750
They identify neighborhoods

5945
03:18:35,911 --> 03:18:36,845
where they appropriately serve

5946
03:18:36,845 --> 03:18:38,845
residential developments,

5947
03:18:39,448 --> 03:18:41,448
without allowing residential

5948
03:18:42,618 --> 03:18:45,180
development to migrate within

5949
03:18:47,389 --> 03:18:50,389
residential areas, this is on

5950
03:18:52,127 --> 03:18:52,494
ehrlich road, which is a large

5951
03:18:52,494 --> 03:18:54,494
corridor.

5952
03:18:54,797 --> 03:18:56,832
The principle land use concern

5953
03:18:56,832 --> 03:18:58,600
that was raised by development

5954
03:18:58,600 --> 03:19:00,168
services is compatibility.

5955
03:19:00,168 --> 03:19:03,168
Compatibility does not mean that

5956
03:19:03,639 --> 03:19:05,400
every adjoining property must be

5957
03:19:05,400 --> 03:19:07,576
categorized within the same use.

5958
03:19:07,576 --> 03:19:10,450
The question is whether the

5959
03:19:10,450 --> 03:19:11,447
proposed development can co

5960
03:19:11,447 --> 03:19:13,282
exist without creating

5961
03:19:13,282 --> 03:19:14,717
reasonable impacts.

5962
03:19:14,717 --> 03:19:15,851
First, this is a planned

5963
03:19:15,851 --> 03:19:17,851
development, a planned

5964
03:19:19,355 --> 03:19:22,355
development, we are allowed to

5965
03:19:22,858 --> 03:19:24,593
work with county staff and the

5966
03:19:24,593 --> 03:19:25,761
local area to develop what that

5967
03:19:25,761 --> 03:19:27,761
plan means.

5968
03:19:28,300 --> 03:19:30,733
We're not asking for a broad

5969
03:19:30,733 --> 03:19:31,100
commercial rezoning of this

5970
03:19:31,100 --> 03:19:33,100
district.

5971
03:19:33,235 --> 03:19:35,471
And the county has the ability

5972
03:19:35,471 --> 03:19:36,572
through this process, to control

5973
03:19:36,572 --> 03:19:38,572
the use.

5974
03:19:39,108 --> 03:19:40,420
The buffering, the lighting, and

5975
03:19:40,420 --> 03:19:42,442
other characteristics of the

5976
03:19:45,980 --> 03:19:47,980
development itself.

5977
03:19:48,518 --> 03:19:50,553
Through time we have submitted

5978
03:19:50,553 --> 03:19:52,953
several proposals to county

5979
03:19:53,322 --> 03:19:55,240
staff regarding the development.

5980
03:19:55,240 --> 03:19:57,360
Through time, we've also reduced

5981
03:19:57,360 --> 03:19:59,695
the size of the building, we

5982
03:19:59,695 --> 03:20:01,631
revised the circulation pattern,

5983
03:20:01,631 --> 03:20:02,965
adjusted the fuel canopy to

5984
03:20:02,965 --> 03:20:05,335
better match the surrounding

5985
03:20:05,335 --> 03:20:07,437
area as the code dictates, we

5986
03:20:07,437 --> 03:20:09,505
modified the storm water

5987
03:20:09,505 --> 03:20:10,906
configuration, we eliminated the

5988
03:20:10,906 --> 03:20:12,675
pavement behind the building,

5989
03:20:12,675 --> 03:20:13,909
which would better serve the

5990
03:20:13,909 --> 03:20:15,645
wetlands adjacent to the

5991
03:20:15,645 --> 03:20:16,846
property, and developed

5992
03:20:16,846 --> 03:20:18,846
additional wetland measures,

5993
03:20:19,480 --> 03:20:20,416
such as moving the building

5994
03:20:20,416 --> 03:20:22,652
completely out of the wetland

5995
03:20:22,652 --> 03:20:22,985
itself P.M. These are meaningful

5996
03:20:22,985 --> 03:20:24,921
changes.

5997
03:20:24,921 --> 03:20:26,356
The physical context provided --

5998
03:20:26,356 --> 03:20:28,124
the physical context of the

5999
03:20:28,124 --> 03:20:29,459
property provides additional

6000
03:20:29,459 --> 03:20:31,695
separation to the east is the

6001
03:20:31,695 --> 03:20:34,950
county owned property containing

6002
03:20:35,498 --> 03:20:39,980
a retention pond which we would

6003
03:20:39,469 --> 03:20:40,970
use to extend ehrlich, and we've

6004
03:20:40,970 --> 03:20:43,440
been in discussions with public

6005
03:20:43,440 --> 03:20:47,400
works, we reached out to public

6006
03:20:47,430 --> 03:20:50,430
works to address that extension

6007
03:20:53,483 --> 03:20:55,352
into bellamy road.

6008
03:20:55,352 --> 03:20:56,286
We have proposed -- our

6009
03:20:56,286 --> 03:20:58,286
development includes potential

6010
03:20:58,521 --> 03:21:00,560
set backs and landscape buffers

6011
03:21:00,560 --> 03:21:01,591
around the property.

6012
03:21:01,591 --> 03:21:03,591
Planning commission's own

6013
03:21:09,199 --> 03:21:10,867
analysis recognizes the

6014
03:21:10,867 --> 03:21:12,736
compatibility of the use.

6015
03:21:12,736 --> 03:21:13,670
As planning commission stated,

6016
03:21:13,670 --> 03:21:16,670
compatibility does not mean the

6017
03:21:17,841 --> 03:21:19,876
same as, so again, compatibility

6018
03:21:19,876 --> 03:21:20,911
asks, is this viable with the

6019
03:21:20,911 --> 03:21:22,312
surrounding community.

6020
03:21:22,312 --> 03:21:26,512
Not is it exactly the same as

6021
03:21:27,250 --> 03:21:29,152
the surrounding community.

6022
03:21:29,152 --> 03:21:31,152
These recognizable commercial

6023
03:21:33,157 --> 03:21:34,658
uses along ehrlich that extend

6024
03:21:34,658 --> 03:21:36,326
miles each way, that are listed

6025
03:21:36,326 --> 03:21:38,726
as commercial, gas stations

6026
03:21:45,735 --> 03:21:46,903
about two miles east of the

6027
03:21:46,903 --> 03:21:48,505
properties, for example.

6028
03:21:48,505 --> 03:21:49,840
>> hearing master: please,

6029
03:21:49,840 --> 03:21:51,408
folks, planning commission's

6030
03:21:51,408 --> 03:21:53,808
report, come on, please.

6031
03:21:53,911 --> 03:21:56,460
>> given the current development

6032
03:21:56,460 --> 03:21:59,460
pattern that consists mainly of

6033
03:22:00,551 --> 03:22:02,951
residential uses with distance

6034
03:22:03,530 --> 03:22:05,355
from heavy commercial uses, the

6035
03:22:05,355 --> 03:22:06,290
proposal is compatible with the

6036
03:22:06,290 --> 03:22:07,891
surrounding area and

6037
03:22:07,891 --> 03:22:09,193
neighborhood character, and work

6038
03:22:09,193 --> 03:22:09,625
to serve the existing

6039
03:22:09,625 --> 03:22:11,625
neighborhood.

6040
03:22:12,129 --> 03:22:14,131
The request is consistent with

6041
03:22:14,131 --> 03:22:15,132
all of future land use

6042
03:22:15,132 --> 03:22:17,132
objectives and possibilities

6043
03:22:17,801 --> 03:22:18,369
that relates to the

6044
03:22:18,369 --> 03:22:19,236
compatibility of the

6045
03:22:19,236 --> 03:22:20,905
neighborhood protection.

6046
03:22:20,905 --> 03:22:23,305
The planning commission's only

6047
03:22:24,700 --> 03:22:25,209
change to make it incompatible

6048
03:22:25,209 --> 03:22:28,512
was the fact that the building

6049
03:22:28,512 --> 03:22:28,812
would be within the wetland set

6050
03:22:28,812 --> 03:22:30,812
back.

6051
03:22:30,981 --> 03:22:31,715
All other locational criteria

6052
03:22:31,715 --> 03:22:34,715
was considered consistent by the

6053
03:22:44,161 --> 03:22:46,161
county.

6054
03:22:46,697 --> 03:22:47,898
Bellamy road, there are several

6055
03:22:47,898 --> 03:22:49,934
improvements we're willing to

6056
03:22:49,934 --> 03:22:51,302
do, which includes the

6057
03:22:51,302 --> 03:22:52,300
right-of-way dedication to the

6058
03:22:52,300 --> 03:22:53,404
county.

6059
03:22:53,404 --> 03:22:56,173
Restricted right in and right

6060
03:22:56,173 --> 03:22:56,541
out access as jeremy has

6061
03:22:56,541 --> 03:22:58,541
mentioned.

6062
03:22:59,176 --> 03:23:00,944
The sidewalk and multipurpose

6063
03:23:00,944 --> 03:23:02,313
path construction,

6064
03:23:02,313 --> 03:23:04,313
administrative variances for

6065
03:23:06,317 --> 03:23:08,720
spacing standards, which we have

6066
03:23:08,720 --> 03:23:11,120
requested, which would be 130

6067
03:23:14,250 --> 03:23:14,959
foot spacing variance, along

6068
03:23:14,959 --> 03:23:16,959
bellamy road.

6069
03:23:18,396 --> 03:23:21,996
We are willing to implement a

6070
03:23:23,867 --> 03:23:26,204
concrete separator, and 15 feet

6071
03:23:26,204 --> 03:23:28,204
around the property.

6072
03:23:29,730 --> 03:23:32,673
Along ehrlich we would have a

6073
03:23:33,544 --> 03:23:35,280
right in, right out access.

6074
03:23:35,280 --> 03:23:35,713
This is our trip generation

6075
03:23:35,713 --> 03:23:37,414
report.

6076
03:23:37,414 --> 03:23:39,551
We have our traffic engineer

6077
03:23:39,551 --> 03:23:42,551
here, if there's any questions

6078
03:23:47,525 --> 03:23:49,460
about the trip generation.

6079
03:23:49,460 --> 03:23:50,328
The property is surrounded by

6080
03:23:50,328 --> 03:23:51,729
residential properties, which

6081
03:23:51,729 --> 03:23:53,231
are mostly to the south,

6082
03:23:53,231 --> 03:23:55,300
including some single family

6083
03:23:55,300 --> 03:23:56,467
homes directly to the north, the

6084
03:23:56,467 --> 03:23:59,237
county retention pond to the

6085
03:23:59,237 --> 03:24:02,837
east, an the church that is

6086
03:24:03,408 --> 03:24:05,510
located to the west of the

6087
03:24:05,510 --> 03:24:07,510
developable area.

6088
03:24:08,480 --> 03:24:09,281
Consistency with the greater

6089
03:24:09,281 --> 03:24:09,381
carollwood/north dale area.

6090
03:24:09,381 --> 03:24:11,381
-

6091
03:24:11,883 --> 03:24:12,217
it promotes pedestrians friendly

6092
03:24:12,217 --> 03:24:14,217
growth.

6093
03:24:22,127 --> 03:24:24,527
And identifies community needs.

6094
03:24:24,996 --> 03:24:25,497
Our client also has similar

6095
03:24:25,497 --> 03:24:26,665
values.

6096
03:24:26,665 --> 03:24:28,366
Community support that they're

6097
03:24:28,366 --> 03:24:31,366
willing to implement would be

6098
03:24:33,371 --> 03:24:33,771
partnering with local law

6099
03:24:33,771 --> 03:24:35,771
enforcement.

6100
03:24:37,776 --> 03:24:39,211
we would have the locally owned

6101
03:24:39,211 --> 03:24:40,646
franchisee, who is a community

6102
03:24:40,646 --> 03:24:43,715
member that would be on site.

6103
03:24:43,715 --> 03:24:45,384
We have implemented or we can

6104
03:24:45,384 --> 03:24:47,784
implement steps that would

6105
03:24:48,153 --> 03:24:50,522
discourage loitering, we have

6106
03:24:50,522 --> 03:24:52,570
advanced security measures, and

6107
03:24:52,570 --> 03:24:53,625
we have community outreach

6108
03:24:53,625 --> 03:24:53,992
programs we're willing to

6109
03:24:53,992 --> 03:24:55,992
implement.

6110
03:24:56,495 --> 03:24:57,730
There's also concerns about

6111
03:24:57,730 --> 03:24:58,764
possible lighting and noise

6112
03:24:58,764 --> 03:25:01,164
pollutions from the property,

6113
03:25:01,600 --> 03:25:05,204
but the client -- the client is

6114
03:25:05,204 --> 03:25:06,538
able to implement hoods

6115
03:25:06,538 --> 03:25:08,730
overlighting, that would make it

6116
03:25:08,730 --> 03:25:08,674
localized to the property

6117
03:25:08,674 --> 03:25:10,674
itself.

6118
03:25:12,611 --> 03:25:15,947
And they introduce soft music in

6119
03:25:15,947 --> 03:25:18,616
the outside area, which again

6120
03:25:18,616 --> 03:25:21,616
would reuce loitering, and also

6121
03:25:22,955 --> 03:25:24,523
would be supportive of community

6122
03:25:24,523 --> 03:25:25,357
growth.

6123
03:25:25,357 --> 03:25:27,357
Comprehensive plan compliance.

6124
03:25:29,270 --> 03:25:31,297
I just wanted to briefly touch

6125
03:25:31,297 --> 03:25:34,166
on the comprehensive plan and

6126
03:25:34,166 --> 03:25:35,901
what objectives -- such as urban

6127
03:25:35,901 --> 03:25:38,301
service areas and urban

6128
03:25:39,138 --> 03:25:40,439
expansion areas, which are

6129
03:25:40,439 --> 03:25:41,173
addressed already within the

6130
03:25:41,173 --> 03:25:43,173
community.

6131
03:25:43,476 --> 03:25:45,878
The property is in the usa, the

6132
03:25:45,878 --> 03:25:48,280
future land use map, identifies

6133
03:25:48,280 --> 03:25:49,448
land use categories that

6134
03:25:49,448 --> 03:25:51,448
summarize and establish

6135
03:25:52,218 --> 03:25:54,120
permitted land uses and maximum

6136
03:25:54,120 --> 03:25:56,520
densities and intensities, which

6137
03:25:59,592 --> 03:26:00,225
we do not come close to

6138
03:26:00,225 --> 03:26:01,661
reaching.

6139
03:26:01,661 --> 03:26:03,763
There's two conditions that

6140
03:26:03,763 --> 03:26:04,163
we're requesting with this

6141
03:26:04,163 --> 03:26:06,132
application.

6142
03:26:06,132 --> 03:26:08,901
One is surrounding the wetland

6143
03:26:08,901 --> 03:26:09,868
area, which we would request a

6144
03:26:09,868 --> 03:26:12,868
variance to the site development

6145
03:26:13,505 --> 03:26:16,420
of the property, and we're also

6146
03:26:16,420 --> 03:26:17,777
requesting the bellamy road

6147
03:26:17,777 --> 03:26:20,246
extension, which again we have

6148
03:26:20,246 --> 03:26:21,147
already discussed with -- or

6149
03:26:21,147 --> 03:26:23,147
started, implemented the

6150
03:26:25,885 --> 03:26:27,720
discussions with public works.

6151
03:26:27,720 --> 03:26:29,988
We have a growth pattern

6152
03:26:29,988 --> 03:26:32,525
analysis that was done by rvi

6153
03:26:32,525 --> 03:26:35,610
that shows consistent growth in

6154
03:26:35,610 --> 03:26:36,729
the immediate area and multiple

6155
03:26:36,729 --> 03:26:39,933
studies have been done by not

6156
03:26:39,933 --> 03:26:42,933
only rvi, but the plan

6157
03:26:43,837 --> 03:26:44,637
hillsborough county, which shows

6158
03:26:44,637 --> 03:26:45,338
since 2020

6159
03:26:45,338 --> 03:26:47,338
08 there has been

6160
03:26:52,579 --> 03:26:54,546
substantial growth in this area.

6161
03:26:54,546 --> 03:26:56,316
The review was consistent with

6162
03:26:56,316 --> 03:26:58,585
our request, and did not have

6163
03:26:58,585 --> 03:27:00,985
any other requirements for

6164
03:27:04,224 --> 03:27:04,590
proposed rezoning for the

6165
03:27:04,590 --> 03:27:05,325
property

6166
03:27:05,325 --> 03:27:06,126
>> hearing master: how much more

6167
03:27:06,126 --> 03:27:08,526
time will you need?

6168
03:27:14,735 --> 03:27:15,535
>> I need like 2 more minutes.

6169
03:27:15,535 --> 03:27:17,935
>> hearing master: and those

6170
03:27:19,973 --> 03:27:22,576
people who want to support can

6171
03:27:22,576 --> 03:27:22,909
speak for an additional amount

6172
03:27:22,909 --> 03:27:24,611
of time.

6173
03:27:24,611 --> 03:27:26,246
2 more minutes.

6174
03:27:26,246 --> 03:27:28,448
>> there are gas stations in

6175
03:27:28,448 --> 03:27:30,848
close proximity of churches.

6176
03:27:30,851 --> 03:27:32,419
This is several examples of that

6177
03:27:32,419 --> 03:27:34,540
which are all located within

6178
03:27:34,540 --> 03:27:34,787
hillsborough county.

6179
03:27:34,787 --> 03:27:38,387
And the close to the immediate

6180
03:27:40,260 --> 03:27:41,950
area.

6181
03:27:41,950 --> 03:27:42,763
Again, we're asking for

6182
03:27:42,763 --> 03:27:44,230
conditions that would be placed

6183
03:27:44,230 --> 03:27:46,733
on the property, which would

6184
03:27:46,733 --> 03:27:49,733
include the variance for the

6185
03:27:49,803 --> 03:27:52,390
wetland setback, and then also

6186
03:27:52,390 --> 03:27:55,390
for the -- all administrative

6187
03:27:55,342 --> 03:27:56,108
requirements for the access, the

6188
03:27:56,108 --> 03:27:59,708
right in access points for the

6189
03:28:00,681 --> 03:28:02,516
property.

6190
03:28:02,516 --> 03:28:05,886
We would also, of course, obtain

6191
03:28:05,886 --> 03:28:08,886
the required public works and

6192
03:28:29,443 --> 03:28:31,178
transportation approvals.

6193
03:28:31,178 --> 03:28:31,744
I have nothing further to add.

6194
03:28:31,744 --> 03:28:32,580
Thank you.

6195
03:28:32,580 --> 03:28:33,800
>> hearing master: okay, thank

6196
03:28:33,800 --> 03:28:34,781
you, sir.

6197
03:28:34,781 --> 03:28:37,781
At this point in time,

6198
03:28:43,357 --> 03:28:45,357
development services staff?

6199
03:28:49,290 --> 03:28:49,697
>> good evening, guess

6200
03:28:49,697 --> 03:28:51,697
granlinier with development

6201
03:28:53,835 --> 03:28:55,835
services.

6202
03:28:59,373 --> 03:29:00,841
The proposal includes a one

6203
03:29:00,841 --> 03:29:03,241
story commercial building, and

6204
03:29:03,977 --> 03:29:06,977
up to 12 fueling stations, with

6205
03:29:10,284 --> 03:29:11,850
access from both bellamy and

6206
03:29:11,850 --> 03:29:13,850
erhlich road.

6207
03:29:14,489 --> 03:29:17,892
A vacant parcel used as a county

6208
03:29:17,892 --> 03:29:19,227
storm water pond to the east and

6209
03:29:19,227 --> 03:29:21,462
church with associated school

6210
03:29:21,462 --> 03:29:21,895
and child care facilities to the

6211
03:29:21,895 --> 03:29:23,895
west.

6212
03:29:24,565 --> 03:29:26,000
These uses reflect a

6213
03:29:26,000 --> 03:29:28,000
predominantly institutional

6214
03:29:29,103 --> 03:29:31,105
pattern along the corridor.

6215
03:29:31,105 --> 03:29:33,505
Approximately 38% of the site

6216
03:29:33,641 --> 03:29:35,610
consists of wetlands in the

6217
03:29:35,610 --> 03:29:35,977
northwest portion of the

6218
03:29:35,977 --> 03:29:37,977
property.

6219
03:29:38,579 --> 03:29:39,614
The limits -- this limits the

6220
03:29:39,614 --> 03:29:42,140
available area for development,

6221
03:29:42,317 --> 03:29:43,851
and affects building placement,

6222
03:29:43,851 --> 03:29:44,252
circulation and storm water

6223
03:29:44,252 --> 03:29:46,252
management.

6224
03:29:46,487 --> 03:29:49,157
While the applicant has made

6225
03:29:49,157 --> 03:29:52,157
adjustments to the site design,

6226
03:29:53,161 --> 03:29:54,596
the current layout requires

6227
03:29:54,596 --> 03:29:56,996
encroachment into the wetland

6228
03:29:57,298 --> 03:29:59,167
buffer, which would require a

6229
03:29:59,167 --> 03:30:00,235
separate variance that has not

6230
03:30:00,235 --> 03:30:02,235
been obtained.

6231
03:30:02,669 --> 03:30:04,806
The site contains wetlands and

6232
03:30:04,806 --> 03:30:05,774
other surface water and

6233
03:30:05,774 --> 03:30:07,774
conservation set backs.

6234
03:30:10,178 --> 03:30:11,946
These areas prohibit filling,

6235
03:30:11,946 --> 03:30:12,314
excavation, and impervious

6236
03:30:12,314 --> 03:30:14,314
services.

6237
03:30:14,316 --> 03:30:16,716
The current layout encrouches

6238
03:30:17,452 --> 03:30:18,853
into those required set backs.

6239
03:30:18,853 --> 03:30:21,156
A key consideration review, is

6240
03:30:21,156 --> 03:30:21,523
the intensity of the proposed

6241
03:30:21,523 --> 03:30:23,523
use.

6242
03:30:24,659 --> 03:30:27,659
The convenience store with fuel

6243
03:30:29,197 --> 03:30:30,631
sales, typically delivers higher

6244
03:30:30,631 --> 03:30:32,631
levels of travel.

6245
03:30:32,901 --> 03:30:34,937
This represents a substantial

6246
03:30:34,937 --> 03:30:37,337
increase compared to the

6247
03:30:38,730 --> 03:30:38,240
existing conditions

6248
03:30:38,240 --> 03:30:39,341
s

6249
03:30:39,341 --> 03:30:40,742
s and

6250
03:30:40,742 --> 03:30:42,742
surrounding uses.

6251
03:30:43,110 --> 03:30:44,613
This makes it challenging to

6252
03:30:44,613 --> 03:30:46,613
fully mitigate transitions

6253
03:30:47,182 --> 03:30:49,517
between the proposed development

6254
03:30:49,517 --> 03:30:50,419
and adjacent homes and church.

6255
03:30:50,419 --> 03:30:52,540
Particularly, where natural

6256
03:30:52,540 --> 03:30:54,560
buffers are crrently provided

6257
03:30:54,560 --> 03:30:55,524
by wetlands areas.

6258
03:30:55,524 --> 03:30:56,792
Also, transportation staff

6259
03:30:56,792 --> 03:30:58,792
identified several outstanding

6260
03:30:58,861 --> 03:31:00,796
issues, including the need for

6261
03:31:00,796 --> 03:31:03,196
additional detail on proposed

6262
03:31:03,231 --> 03:31:04,332
access, roadway improvements and

6263
03:31:04,332 --> 03:31:06,332
right-of-way dedication.

6264
03:31:06,502 --> 03:31:08,270
Some submitted materials were

6265
03:31:08,270 --> 03:31:09,670
either incomplete or

6266
03:31:09,670 --> 03:31:11,340
inconsistent.

6267
03:31:11,340 --> 03:31:13,740
Also, public works indicated

6268
03:31:14,610 --> 03:31:16,277
that they could not adequately

6269
03:31:16,277 --> 03:31:17,512
evaluate potential use of county

6270
03:31:17,512 --> 03:31:17,880
property, with the information

6271
03:31:17,880 --> 03:31:19,880
provided.

6272
03:31:20,983 --> 03:31:23,520
As a result, transportation

6273
03:31:23,520 --> 03:31:25,452
staff recommended a denial.

6274
03:31:25,988 --> 03:31:27,556
I would recommend speaking to

6275
03:31:27,556 --> 03:31:29,125
transportation after this,

6276
03:31:29,125 --> 03:31:31,125
regarding their concerns.

6277
03:31:31,327 --> 03:31:33,162
Considering the intensity of the

6278
03:31:33,162 --> 03:31:34,597
proposed commercial activity,

6279
03:31:34,597 --> 03:31:36,997
the environmental constraints on

6280
03:31:37,499 --> 03:31:40,499
the site, and the unrevolved

6281
03:31:42,571 --> 03:31:44,571
transportation related issues,

6282
03:31:47,276 --> 03:31:47,709
staff finds the request

6283
03:31:47,709 --> 03:31:48,444
unsupportable.

6284
03:31:48,444 --> 03:31:49,378
I am available for any questions

6285
03:31:49,378 --> 03:31:50,680
you MAY have.

6286
03:31:50,680 --> 03:31:51,130
And I also have my revised staff

6287
03:31:51,130 --> 03:31:51,847
report.

6288
03:31:51,847 --> 03:31:53,847
I'm sorry.

6289
03:32:00,689 --> 03:32:01,557
>> hearing master: okay.

6290
03:32:01,557 --> 03:32:03,292
Folks, please.

6291
03:32:03,292 --> 03:32:06,292
I'd like to ask transportation

6292
03:32:07,629 --> 03:32:09,799
staff to provide any comments

6293
03:32:09,799 --> 03:32:10,632
regarding the application.

6294
03:32:10,632 --> 03:32:12,632
>> yes.

6295
03:32:12,902 --> 03:32:14,690
Sarah rose is online and will

6296
03:32:14,690 --> 03:32:14,403
speak to the objections on

6297
03:32:14,403 --> 03:32:16,403
record.

6298
03:32:17,740 --> 03:32:19,740
>> hearing master: okay.

6299
03:32:22,440 --> 03:32:24,444
>> good afternoon, sarah rose

6300
03:32:27,283 --> 03:32:29,283
from transportation review.

6301
03:32:30,420 --> 03:32:31,687
As notated in transportation's

6302
03:32:31,687 --> 03:32:34,870
rationale for objection as

6303
03:32:34,958 --> 03:32:36,892
outlined in our report, the

6304
03:32:36,892 --> 03:32:38,595
applicant did submit several

6305
03:32:38,595 --> 03:32:40,995
variance requests for their

6306
03:32:41,970 --> 03:32:43,497
access on to bellamy.

6307
03:32:44,968 --> 03:32:47,368
Namely an administration spacing

6308
03:32:47,537 --> 03:32:48,270
variant which was found to

6309
03:32:48,270 --> 03:32:50,270
contain sufficient information

6310
03:32:51,374 --> 03:32:53,108
for review, by the manager of

6311
03:32:53,108 --> 03:32:55,108
transportation review.

6312
03:32:56,120 --> 03:32:56,746
In addition to that, an

6313
03:32:56,746 --> 03:32:58,746
administrative design exception

6314
03:33:00,490 --> 03:33:02,185
was submitted for the

6315
03:33:02,185 --> 03:33:03,952
substandard roadway conditions

6316
03:33:03,952 --> 03:33:05,952
of bellamy.

6317
03:33:06,289 --> 03:33:09,289
That too was found insufficient

6318
03:33:11,827 --> 03:33:13,229
for review by the manager of

6319
03:33:13,229 --> 03:33:15,229
transportation review.

6320
03:33:16,990 --> 03:33:18,467
For both of those variances, one

6321
03:33:18,467 --> 03:33:20,867
of the outstanding insufficients

6322
03:33:21,304 --> 03:33:22,405
for both of those requests was

6323
03:33:22,405 --> 03:33:24,207
the lack of information

6324
03:33:24,207 --> 03:33:26,207
regarding the right-of-way

6325
03:33:26,243 --> 03:33:27,544
expansion for bellamy.

6326
03:33:27,544 --> 03:33:30,460
Neither of the variance request

6327
03:33:30,460 --> 03:33:32,816
or the site plan does the

6328
03:33:32,816 --> 03:33:35,216
applicant outline exactly how

6329
03:33:36,190 --> 03:33:38,355
far or how much width will be

6330
03:33:38,355 --> 03:33:40,157
required for that expansion.

6331
03:33:40,157 --> 03:33:42,391
As stated by the applicant in

6332
03:33:42,391 --> 03:33:44,940
their presentation, the

6333
03:33:44,940 --> 03:33:45,729
applicant did inquire whether

6334
03:33:45,729 --> 03:33:48,129
staff could condition the

6335
03:33:49,660 --> 03:33:51,802
project to be able to continue

6336
03:33:51,802 --> 03:33:54,338
without the bellamy access if

6337
03:33:54,338 --> 03:33:56,773
the expansion for bellamy was

6338
03:33:56,773 --> 03:33:58,410
not in the additional

6339
03:33:58,410 --> 03:34:00,777
right-of-way, to be taken from

6340
03:34:00,777 --> 03:34:03,177
county land, county property,

6341
03:34:04,281 --> 03:34:05,282
which resides east of the

6342
03:34:05,282 --> 03:34:07,500
subject area.

6343
03:34:07,500 --> 03:34:08,510
Could not be supported by

6344
03:34:08,510 --> 03:34:10,510
subject works.

6345
03:34:11,587 --> 03:34:14,725
At the time of zoning review.

6346
03:34:14,725 --> 03:34:16,660
Public works, no coordination

6347
03:34:16,660 --> 03:34:18,395
for public works between the

6348
03:34:18,395 --> 03:34:20,664
applicant and public works had

6349
03:34:20,664 --> 03:34:22,664
been completed.

6350
03:34:22,966 --> 03:34:24,100
and at the time of site

6351
03:34:24,100 --> 03:34:26,401
construction, if public works

6352
03:34:27,371 --> 03:34:30,474
were not able to support county

6353
03:34:30,474 --> 03:34:33,344
land to be taken for that

6354
03:34:33,344 --> 03:34:35,311
right-of-way expansion on

6355
03:34:35,311 --> 03:34:37,810
bellamy, if the project could be

6356
03:34:37,810 --> 03:34:39,883
conditioned in such a way to

6357
03:34:39,883 --> 03:34:40,217
proceed without that bellamy

6358
03:34:40,217 --> 03:34:42,151
access.

6359
03:34:42,151 --> 03:34:44,551
Staff notified the applicant

6360
03:34:45,210 --> 03:34:46,900
that this would require a

6361
03:34:46,900 --> 03:34:46,490
stantive change to the

6362
03:34:46,490 --> 03:34:48,259
application.

6363
03:34:48,259 --> 03:34:50,628
Meaning that a revision to the

6364
03:34:50,628 --> 03:34:51,928
site access analysis, and the

6365
03:34:51,928 --> 03:34:54,732
site plan would be required.

6366
03:34:54,732 --> 03:34:56,967
And that as the revised plan

6367
03:34:56,967 --> 03:34:58,536
deadline had already passed,

6368
03:34:58,536 --> 03:34:59,670
such condition could not be

6369
03:34:59,670 --> 03:35:01,906
considered at that late stage in

6370
03:35:01,906 --> 03:35:02,940
the review, and there would be

6371
03:35:02,940 --> 03:35:04,775
insufficient time for the staff

6372
03:35:04,775 --> 03:35:07,345
and the public to fairly and

6373
03:35:07,345 --> 03:35:08,412
adequately review and provide

6374
03:35:08,412 --> 03:35:10,812
comments on justification that

6375
03:35:11,948 --> 03:35:13,317
the proposed use and density

6376
03:35:13,317 --> 03:35:16,317
could be adequately supported by

6377
03:35:17,488 --> 03:35:20,791
a single right in, right out

6378
03:35:20,791 --> 03:35:23,191
connection on ehrlich road.

6379
03:35:26,364 --> 03:35:26,664
>> hearing master: anything

6380
03:35:26,664 --> 03:35:28,266
else?

6381
03:35:28,266 --> 03:35:28,866
>> not at this time.

6382
03:35:28,866 --> 03:35:29,534
>> hearing master: okay.

6383
03:35:29,534 --> 03:35:31,534
Thank you.

6384
03:35:31,836 --> 03:35:32,904
At this point in time, planning

6385
03:35:32,904 --> 03:35:34,904
commission staff?

6386
03:35:35,206 --> 03:35:35,872
>> lily linehan, planning

6387
03:35:35,872 --> 03:35:37,208
commission staff.

6388
03:35:37,208 --> 03:35:39,143
The subject property is located

6389
03:35:39,143 --> 03:35:41,543
within the residential 4 future

6390
03:35:41,980 --> 03:35:44,849
land use category, within the

6391
03:35:44,849 --> 03:35:45,783
limits of the greater

6392
03:35:45,783 --> 03:35:46,818
carollwood/north dale community

6393
03:35:46,818 --> 03:35:48,818
plan.

6394
03:35:49,254 --> 03:35:51,322
Given the current pattern of

6395
03:35:51,322 --> 03:35:54,225
mainly residential uses, but the

6396
03:35:54,225 --> 03:35:56,361
close proximity to a major

6397
03:35:56,361 --> 03:35:57,996
highway, the proposal is

6398
03:35:57,996 --> 03:35:59,970
compatible and would work to

6399
03:35:59,970 --> 03:36:01,497
serve the existing neighborhood

6400
03:36:01,666 --> 03:36:04,666
and meets the intent of

6401
03:36:06,938 --> 03:36:08,938
objective 4.4 and policy 4.4.1.

6402
03:36:09,141 --> 03:36:10,442
The commercial locational

6403
03:36:10,442 --> 03:36:13,442
criteria which is established in

6404
03:36:15,981 --> 03:36:18,830
flu 4.7 and policy 4.7.2, the

6405
03:36:18,830 --> 03:36:21,830
subject site is located within

6406
03:36:22,120 --> 03:36:25,120
the 1,000 foot distance of the

6407
03:36:25,957 --> 03:36:27,957
required intersection.

6408
03:36:29,427 --> 03:36:31,827
The applicable area complies

6409
03:36:32,597 --> 03:36:34,599
with the site plan.

6410
03:36:34,599 --> 03:36:36,999
The proposed building encroaches

6411
03:36:38,303 --> 03:36:39,905
into the required 30 foot

6412
03:36:39,905 --> 03:36:41,905
wetland set back.

6413
03:36:42,507 --> 03:36:43,775
The current proposal does not

6414
03:36:43,775 --> 03:36:45,143
establish compliance or

6415
03:36:45,143 --> 03:36:46,878
adequately demonstrate that the

6416
03:36:46,878 --> 03:36:47,979
potential impacts to the

6417
03:36:47,979 --> 03:36:49,979
environmentally sensitive

6418
03:36:50,649 --> 03:36:52,885
resources have been resolved.

6419
03:36:52,885 --> 03:36:55,285
The proposed planned development

6420
03:36:56,540 --> 03:36:58,454
has not demonstrated consistency

6421
03:36:59,570 --> 03:37:01,570
with flu 6.1 and 6.2.

6422
03:37:04,563 --> 03:37:06,563
Flu policy 6.1.1, objective 3

6423
03:37:07,266 --> 03:37:09,266
pbt 5 and 3.5.1.

6424
03:37:10,350 --> 03:37:10,702
As development services has

6425
03:37:10,702 --> 03:37:12,370
communicated, hillsborough

6426
03:37:12,370 --> 03:37:14,437
county land development code

6427
03:37:14,740 --> 03:37:16,740
section 4.01.07b.

6428
03:37:18,243 --> 03:37:20,312
The proposal has not adequately

6429
03:37:20,312 --> 03:37:22,312
demonstrated consistency with

6430
03:37:22,781 --> 03:37:24,830
the greater carollwood north

6431
03:37:24,830 --> 03:37:26,830
dale community plan,

6432
03:37:27,452 --> 03:37:28,520
particularly those that address

6433
03:37:28,520 --> 03:37:30,155
compatibility with the

6434
03:37:30,155 --> 03:37:31,190
established character of the

6435
03:37:31,190 --> 03:37:32,157
surrounding community.

6436
03:37:32,157 --> 03:37:34,557
Based upon the above

6437
03:37:34,760 --> 03:37:37,160
considerations and the following

6438
03:37:38,897 --> 03:37:40,897
goals, objectives planning

6439
03:37:41,333 --> 03:37:43,733
commission staff finds this

6440
03:37:44,102 --> 03:37:45,838
application inconsistent.

6441
03:37:45,838 --> 03:37:47,720
>> hearing master: thank you.

6442
03:37:47,720 --> 03:37:49,508
Is there anyone in the audience

6443
03:37:49,508 --> 03:37:50,409
that wishes to speak in support

6444
03:37:50,409 --> 03:37:52,244
of the application?

6445
03:37:52,244 --> 03:37:53,912
I see no one responding.

6446
03:37:53,912 --> 03:37:57,512
Anyone in the audience wish to

6447
03:37:57,616 --> 03:37:58,170
speak in opposition to the

6448
03:37:58,170 --> 03:38:00,170
application.

6449
03:38:00,850 --> 03:38:02,655
I see quite a few hands raised?

6450
03:38:02,655 --> 03:38:04,356
i don't know if you have a

6451
03:38:04,356 --> 03:38:05,240
spokesperson for the group or

6452
03:38:05,240 --> 03:38:07,240
not.

6453
03:38:09,295 --> 03:38:10,296
But otherwise -- I'm sorry, the

6454
03:38:10,296 --> 03:38:12,365
gentleman in the front row.

6455
03:38:12,365 --> 03:38:13,532
I don't know if you're the

6456
03:38:13,532 --> 03:38:15,532
spokesperson or not?

6457
03:38:16,350 --> 03:38:17,336
>> I'm the attorney for a

6458
03:38:17,336 --> 03:38:18,971
portion -- for the church, which

6459
03:38:18,971 --> 03:38:21,641
is a major portion of the people

6460
03:38:21,641 --> 03:38:23,675
that are here today.

6461
03:38:23,675 --> 03:38:26,946
My name is jonathan bailey, with

6462
03:38:26,946 --> 03:38:29,315
the national center for life and

6463
03:38:29,315 --> 03:38:30,783
liberty, we represent hillsdale

6464
03:38:30,783 --> 03:38:32,318
baptist church and christian

6465
03:38:32,318 --> 03:38:32,618
school, one of the neighbors

6466
03:38:32,618 --> 03:38:34,618
here.

6467
03:38:36,256 --> 03:38:37,457
They want to put an almost 5,000

6468
03:38:37,457 --> 03:38:39,857
square foot convenience store

6469
03:38:42,261 --> 03:38:44,661
building, fueling canopy with 12

6470
03:38:46,566 --> 03:38:48,668
fueling stations, and gasoline

6471
03:38:48,668 --> 03:38:49,902
and diesel tanks, right in the

6472
03:38:49,902 --> 03:38:51,360
middle of a residential

6473
03:38:51,360 --> 03:38:52,171
community and right next to a

6474
03:38:52,171 --> 03:38:54,171
church and school.

6475
03:38:54,173 --> 03:38:55,542
Everything they said around it,

6476
03:38:55,542 --> 03:38:57,100
about it being community

6477
03:38:57,100 --> 03:38:58,345
friendly.

6478
03:38:58,345 --> 03:38:59,846
The impact to these homes, the

6479
03:38:59,846 --> 03:39:01,615
people living there, and the

6480
03:39:01,615 --> 03:39:02,782
impact to the school is not just

6481
03:39:02,782 --> 03:39:04,782
the traffic.

6482
03:39:04,818 --> 03:39:05,718
It's a severe danger to the

6483
03:39:05,718 --> 03:39:06,190
community that's going to be

6484
03:39:06,190 --> 03:39:07,520
there.

6485
03:39:07,520 --> 03:39:11,120
The type of people that are

6486
03:39:12,292 --> 03:39:13,393
going to hang out at this

6487
03:39:13,393 --> 03:39:15,610
7-eleven at night.

6488
03:39:15,610 --> 03:39:15,962
The people that are going to be

6489
03:39:15,962 --> 03:39:17,997
coming into this community that

6490
03:39:17,997 --> 03:39:20,632
are not part of this community.

6491
03:39:20,632 --> 03:39:22,769
This is not a community centric

6492
03:39:22,769 --> 03:39:24,537
development plan at all.

6493
03:39:24,537 --> 03:39:26,537
The development service

6494
03:39:27,730 --> 03:39:27,841
recommendations, not

6495
03:39:27,841 --> 03:39:29,841
supportable, transportation

6496
03:39:30,310 --> 03:39:30,644
staff objects and recommends

6497
03:39:30,644 --> 03:39:31,577
denial.

6498
03:39:31,577 --> 03:39:33,113
Everyone that's looked at this

6499
03:39:33,113 --> 03:39:35,982
says this is a bad idea.

6500
03:39:35,982 --> 03:39:39,286
and it is a bad idea.

6501
03:39:39,286 --> 03:39:41,688
The 7-eleven came and talked to

6502
03:39:41,688 --> 03:39:43,623
the church and said, what if we

6503
03:39:43,623 --> 03:39:46,230
just serve alcohol after 5:00?

6504
03:39:46,660 --> 03:39:49,529
That doesn't solve the problem.

6505
03:39:49,529 --> 03:39:51,898
We're going to wake up and have

6506
03:39:51,898 --> 03:39:52,431
someone passed out at the school

6507
03:39:52,431 --> 03:39:53,800
entrance.

6508
03:39:53,800 --> 03:39:54,468
Serving after 5:00 doesn't solve

6509
03:39:54,468 --> 03:39:56,468
the problem.

6510
03:39:57,236 --> 03:39:58,372
To think this is not a wedge

6511
03:39:58,372 --> 03:40:00,772
principle, where they're going

6512
03:40:01,108 --> 03:40:03,644
to try to get this in the door,

6513
03:40:03,644 --> 03:40:05,612
and all of a sudden, we're going

6514
03:40:05,612 --> 03:40:06,980
to serve beer at 11:00 A.M.,

6515
03:40:06,980 --> 03:40:08,781
that's going to happen.

6516
03:40:08,781 --> 03:40:11,318
It's going to create a safety

6517
03:40:11,318 --> 03:40:12,686
problem at this christian school

6518
03:40:12,686 --> 03:40:15,686
that's going to be newsworthy.

6519
03:40:17,156 --> 03:40:19,660
It cannot be allowed to happen.

6520
03:40:19,660 --> 03:40:20,894
This increases the trips from 28

6521
03:40:20,894 --> 03:40:22,296
trips to 2800.

6522
03:40:22,296 --> 03:40:23,263
That's fundamentally changing

6523
03:40:23,263 --> 03:40:24,565
this entire area.

6524
03:40:24,565 --> 03:40:26,934
This area coming off this road

6525
03:40:26,934 --> 03:40:28,635
of veterans is not a highly used

6526
03:40:28,635 --> 03:40:30,371
area, the walmart is not

6527
03:40:30,371 --> 03:40:31,805
anywhere close, it's way further

6528
03:40:31,805 --> 03:40:33,574
than where he was saying.

6529
03:40:33,574 --> 03:40:34,909
These restaurants are nowhere

6530
03:40:34,909 --> 03:40:36,777
near where the school is at.

6531
03:40:36,777 --> 03:40:37,845
This is not the picture he

6532
03:40:37,845 --> 03:40:40,147
presented of this little area.

6533
03:40:40,147 --> 03:40:43,147
This is a cozy little

6534
03:40:43,217 --> 03:40:44,185
residential area, with a church

6535
03:40:44,185 --> 03:40:44,918
and --

6536
03:40:44,918 --> 03:40:46,787
>> hearing master: please stop

6537
03:40:46,787 --> 03:40:48,489
clapping, and making noises.

6538
03:40:48,489 --> 03:40:50,757
>> this is a church and school

6539
03:40:50,757 --> 03:40:51,692
area that doesn't have this type

6540
03:40:51,692 --> 03:40:53,394
of traffic now.

6541
03:40:53,394 --> 03:40:55,162
The environmental concerns are

6542
03:40:55,162 --> 03:40:57,431
not to be anywhere overlooked.

6543
03:40:57,431 --> 03:41:00,634
You have 38% of the site consist

6544
03:41:00,634 --> 03:41:03,340
of wetlands, and approximately

6545
03:41:03,236 --> 03:41:03,671
8700 square foot of wetland

6546
03:41:03,671 --> 03:41:05,671
impact.

6547
03:41:05,872 --> 03:41:07,308
And 13,000 square feet of

6548
03:41:07,308 --> 03:41:09,308
wetland buffer impact.

6549
03:41:11,120 --> 03:41:13,412
You're going to put 20,000

6550
03:41:13,648 --> 03:41:15,648
gallon, 12,000 gallon diesel

6551
03:41:15,816 --> 03:41:16,984
tanks right next to a wetland

6552
03:41:16,984 --> 03:41:19,984
issue, and you're asking for

6553
03:41:21,622 --> 03:41:21,989
buffers that do not meet the ldc

6554
03:41:21,989 --> 03:41:23,156
criteria.

6555
03:41:23,156 --> 03:41:24,157
They need variances they have

6556
03:41:24,157 --> 03:41:26,127
not applied for.

6557
03:41:26,127 --> 03:41:27,595
This impact is going to be

6558
03:41:27,595 --> 03:41:29,960
severe, it's going to place the

6559
03:41:29,960 --> 03:41:31,299
children at the school at risk.

6560
03:41:31,299 --> 03:41:33,101
It's going to increase traffic,

6561
03:41:33,101 --> 03:41:35,435
safety risks, for the area.

6562
03:41:35,435 --> 03:41:37,400
Trying to get in and out of the

6563
03:41:37,400 --> 03:41:38,872
school, in the mornings with the

6564
03:41:38,872 --> 03:41:39,240
traffic is going to be

6565
03:41:39,240 --> 03:41:40,108
impossible

6566
03:41:40,108 --> 03:41:40,808
impossible.

6567
03:41:40,808 --> 03:41:42,810
This is not something that's

6568
03:41:42,810 --> 03:41:44,445
doable from a site traffic

6569
03:41:44,445 --> 03:41:46,514
perspective, and the way they

6570
03:41:46,514 --> 03:41:47,615
propose their traffic plan is

6571
03:41:47,615 --> 03:41:48,883
laughable at best.

6572
03:41:48,883 --> 03:41:51,883
The neighborhood that is behind

6573
03:41:51,952 --> 03:41:55,552
it, are very upset, not because

6574
03:41:57,458 --> 03:41:58,493
they don't want a 7-eleven, but

6575
03:41:58,493 --> 03:41:59,360
because it's going to destroy

6576
03:41:59,360 --> 03:42:01,760
their way of life.

6577
03:42:01,863 --> 03:42:03,264
This is not consistent to the

6578
03:42:03,264 --> 03:42:04,320
area and to the way this

6579
03:42:04,320 --> 03:42:07,320
community has been built and

6580
03:42:07,235 --> 03:42:09,635
where it is today.

6581
03:42:11,773 --> 03:42:14,173
We'd ask that hillsborough

6582
03:42:14,542 --> 03:42:16,942
baptist church and school

6583
03:42:18,513 --> 03:42:19,130
request the hearing master deny

6584
03:42:19,130 --> 03:42:21,130
this application.

6585
03:42:21,282 --> 03:42:23,282
It's incompatible with

6586
03:42:23,385 --> 03:42:25,200
surrounding uses.

6587
03:42:25,200 --> 03:42:27,200
Unsupportable by the

6588
03:42:27,622 --> 03:42:29,622
infrastructure.

6589
03:42:30,859 --> 03:42:32,794
And poses safety risks to the

6590
03:42:32,794 --> 03:42:35,194
adjacent church and school.

6591
03:42:35,396 --> 03:42:37,320
>> hi, sir, can you say your

6592
03:42:37,320 --> 03:42:39,432
name for the record?

6593
03:42:40,402 --> 03:42:41,970
>> jonathan bailey, 1790

6594
03:42:41,970 --> 03:42:43,970
recognize svelte boulevard.

6595
03:42:47,642 --> 03:42:48,430
>> if you can sign in, please,

6596
03:42:48,430 --> 03:42:49,177
sir.

6597
03:42:49,177 --> 03:42:49,511
>> hearing master: next speaker,

6598
03:42:49,511 --> 03:42:51,511
please.

6599
03:42:56,185 --> 03:42:56,551
>> I live at 3565 steeplechase

6600
03:42:56,551 --> 03:42:58,520
boulevard.

6601
03:42:58,520 --> 03:42:59,888
I want to give some quick

6602
03:42:59,888 --> 03:43:01,223
background here, that I don't

6603
03:43:01,223 --> 03:43:03,623
think I heard tonight.

6604
03:43:05,894 --> 03:43:08,894
17 years ago, the same parcel

6605
03:43:10,232 --> 03:43:12,100
was proposed -- two parcels I

6606
03:43:12,100 --> 03:43:13,935
guess, was proposed for a

6607
03:43:13,935 --> 03:43:15,604
racetrack gas station.

6608
03:43:15,604 --> 03:43:19,204
The conclusion at that time, was

6609
03:43:19,641 --> 03:43:21,430
based on testimony, evidence,

6610
03:43:21,430 --> 03:43:23,430
various planning departments,

6611
03:43:23,812 --> 03:43:25,347
and a review of the

6612
03:43:25,347 --> 03:43:27,483
comprehensive plan is concluded

6613
03:43:27,483 --> 03:43:28,817
that the rezoning is not

6614
03:43:28,817 --> 03:43:31,153
compatible with the surrounding

6615
03:43:31,153 --> 03:43:32,821
land uses and zoning, and not

6616
03:43:32,821 --> 03:43:33,188
consistent with a comprehensive

6617
03:43:33,188 --> 03:43:35,188
plan.

6618
03:43:35,190 --> 03:43:37,190
Recommendation denial.

6619
03:43:37,192 --> 03:43:39,592
Signed by steven lutz.

6620
03:43:43,197 --> 03:43:45,534
You're still looking good.

6621
03:43:45,534 --> 03:43:46,568
And we're very appreciative that

6622
03:43:46,568 --> 03:43:48,968
the significant analysis that

6623
03:43:49,437 --> 03:43:52,608
the county staff has done on

6624
03:43:52,608 --> 03:43:56,208
this, because this is a project

6625
03:43:57,879 --> 03:43:59,381
that I guess -- to put it -- as

6626
03:43:59,381 --> 03:44:00,716
succinct as possible.

6627
03:44:00,716 --> 03:44:01,450
Bellamy road is the only way in

6628
03:44:01,450 --> 03:44:03,450
and out.

6629
03:44:04,220 --> 03:44:04,519
The major artery for some 2500

6630
03:44:04,519 --> 03:44:05,887
homes.

6631
03:44:05,887 --> 03:44:07,690
If you put this gas station

6632
03:44:07,690 --> 03:44:09,250
there with all the extra traffic

6633
03:44:09,250 --> 03:44:11,250
they're talking about.

6634
03:44:13,929 --> 03:44:15,865
They would significantly lead to

6635
03:44:15,865 --> 03:44:16,197
congestion, lead to safety

6636
03:44:16,197 --> 03:44:18,000
issues.

6637
03:44:18,000 --> 03:44:21,137
Not only for the cars, but a lot

6638
03:44:21,137 --> 03:44:22,137
of people walk and ride their

6639
03:44:22,137 --> 03:44:23,838
bicycles past that intersection,

6640
03:44:23,838 --> 03:44:25,341
because there's a very -- I

6641
03:44:25,341 --> 03:44:26,976
can't think of the name of it,

6642
03:44:26,976 --> 03:44:28,144
there's a trail north/south

6643
03:44:28,144 --> 03:44:30,278
that's to the west of there.

6644
03:44:30,278 --> 03:44:32,470
That a lot of people use -- a

6645
03:44:32,470 --> 03:44:35,647
lot of people ride their bikes

6646
03:44:36,652 --> 03:44:37,886
on, and so it's just -- I can't

6647
03:44:37,886 --> 03:44:40,886
even imagine people coming off

6648
03:44:41,230 --> 03:44:41,691
the veterans, doing u-turns at

6649
03:44:41,691 --> 03:44:43,590
that intersection.

6650
03:44:43,590 --> 03:44:45,228
and another thing that's not

6651
03:44:45,228 --> 03:44:46,896
mentioned here, I guess I would

6652
03:44:46,896 --> 03:44:49,320
say there's a flaw in how the

6653
03:44:49,320 --> 03:44:51,320
county evaluates traffic.

6654
03:44:53,702 --> 03:44:57,639
There are a lot of speeding cars

6655
03:44:57,639 --> 03:44:58,841
on ehrlich, I don't know if

6656
03:44:58,841 --> 03:45:00,876
they're trying to beat that

6657
03:45:00,876 --> 03:45:01,544
light or get to veterans, for

6658
03:45:01,544 --> 03:45:03,544
whatever reason.

6659
03:45:03,580 --> 03:45:05,749
It's not a matter of traffic

6660
03:45:05,749 --> 03:45:07,650
counts, which will go way up if

6661
03:45:07,650 --> 03:45:09,352
the station is put in there.

6662
03:45:09,352 --> 03:45:10,854
There has to be some way, with

6663
03:45:10,854 --> 03:45:12,856
current technology, the measure

6664
03:45:12,856 --> 03:45:14,691
of the cars that go by that

6665
03:45:14,691 --> 03:45:16,526
intersection on a daily basis.

6666
03:45:16,526 --> 03:45:18,940
How many are exceeding the speed

6667
03:45:18,940 --> 03:45:20,596
limit by 10 miles or more.

6668
03:45:20,596 --> 03:45:22,365
I can only say that --

6669
03:45:22,365 --> 03:45:25,365
especially if the plan is

6670
03:45:25,902 --> 03:45:28,302
redrawn and bellamy is

6671
03:45:29,572 --> 03:45:32,542
eliminated, that would create a

6672
03:45:32,542 --> 03:45:33,209
hazard of unforgivable epic

6673
03:45:33,209 --> 03:45:35,110
proportions, because people

6674
03:45:35,110 --> 03:45:36,746
would pull out, speeding, you're

6675
03:45:36,746 --> 03:45:39,482
asking for a lot of MAY hem.

6676
03:45:39,482 --> 03:45:39,783
And I think it would be not

6677
03:45:39,783 --> 03:45:41,783
good.

6678
03:45:43,319 --> 03:45:45,922
I wish the county would evaluate

6679
03:45:45,922 --> 03:45:47,756
its traffic count process to

6680
03:45:47,756 --> 03:45:49,259
also include some measure using

6681
03:45:49,259 --> 03:45:50,626
lasers or whatever is available

6682
03:45:50,626 --> 03:45:52,729
with the current tech, to note

6683
03:45:52,729 --> 03:45:56,929
the speeders on a given road in

6684
03:46:01,972 --> 03:46:03,540
this case, it's ehrlich.

6685
03:46:03,540 --> 03:46:05,875
There's not just the wetlands

6686
03:46:05,875 --> 03:46:08,545
behind the proposed station, and

6687
03:46:08,545 --> 03:46:09,112
there's a retention pond across

6688
03:46:09,112 --> 03:46:10,714
bellamy.

6689
03:46:10,714 --> 03:46:13,150
There's also another pond not

6690
03:46:13,150 --> 03:46:15,850
indicated on the maps, that

6691
03:46:15,850 --> 03:46:16,420
shows another small pond behind

6692
03:46:16,420 --> 03:46:17,688
a home that's directly off the

6693
03:46:17,688 --> 03:46:18,856
intersection there.

6694
03:46:18,856 --> 03:46:21,256
It's another pond that's

6695
03:46:22,192 --> 03:46:23,894
potentially impacted by the

6696
03:46:23,894 --> 03:46:25,629
spillage from gas and oil,

6697
03:46:25,629 --> 03:46:29,829
whatever you can buy to put in

6698
03:46:30,968 --> 03:46:33,368
your car, that's toxic.

6699
03:46:34,405 --> 03:46:37,708
So we -- again, to summarize,

6700
03:46:37,708 --> 03:46:40,100
this is the only main road in --

6701
03:46:40,100 --> 03:46:40,310
this is how we -- see the real

6702
03:46:40,310 --> 03:46:42,112
world.

6703
03:46:42,112 --> 03:46:43,714
And if you put all that extra

6704
03:46:43,714 --> 03:46:46,450
traffic there, it creates a

6705
03:46:46,450 --> 03:46:48,318
safety hazard, a traffic hazard,

6706
03:46:48,318 --> 03:46:50,318
a congestion hazard.

6707
03:46:51,210 --> 03:46:52,189
It could endanger children,

6708
03:46:52,189 --> 03:46:53,224
bikers, pedestrians, who use

6709
03:46:53,224 --> 03:46:55,426
that intersection all the time.

6710
03:46:55,426 --> 03:46:57,728
I've lived there for 25 years, I

6711
03:46:57,728 --> 03:46:59,463
can't give you a precise count,

6712
03:46:59,463 --> 03:47:00,665
but every time I drive there,

6713
03:47:00,665 --> 03:47:01,132
there's someone trying to cross

6714
03:47:01,132 --> 03:47:03,132
that street.

6715
03:47:03,233 --> 03:47:04,902
I thank you for listening.

6716
03:47:04,902 --> 03:47:05,169
>> hearing master: thank you,

6717
03:47:05,169 --> 03:47:06,303
sir.

6718
03:47:06,303 --> 03:47:07,104
The next speaker, please.

6719
03:47:07,104 --> 03:47:10,704
>> if you could please sign in,

6720
03:47:11,809 --> 03:47:13,809
sir.

6721
03:47:13,978 --> 03:47:15,413
>> we do also have two people

6722
03:47:15,413 --> 03:47:16,180
online that wsh to speak.

6723
03:47:16,180 --> 03:47:18,180
>> hearing master: okay.

6724
03:47:21,652 --> 03:47:22,419
>> richard alexander, 6516

6725
03:47:22,419 --> 03:47:24,419
spring oak cort.

6726
03:47:28,920 --> 03:47:30,610
I want to be quick, there's a

6727
03:47:30,610 --> 03:47:31,929
lot of passion on this issue.

6728
03:47:31,929 --> 03:47:35,529
This is a very simple battle.

6729
03:47:36,266 --> 03:47:37,968
This is a battle of

6730
03:47:37,968 --> 03:47:39,968
unquenchable, insatiable greed

6731
03:47:40,400 --> 03:47:41,139
versus families.

6732
03:47:41,139 --> 03:47:42,807
That's what this is about.

6733
03:47:42,807 --> 03:47:44,241
This is about a corporation that

6734
03:47:44,241 --> 03:47:46,100
couldn't care less about

6735
03:47:46,100 --> 03:47:47,745
husbands, wives, fathers,

6736
03:47:47,745 --> 03:47:49,447
mothers, elementary, middle and

6737
03:47:49,447 --> 03:47:50,748
high schoolkids.

6738
03:47:50,748 --> 03:47:53,748
Because within a stone's throw

6739
03:47:56,287 --> 03:47:59,887
of bellamy and ehrlich is not

6740
03:48:01,492 --> 03:48:04,620
only a church, but there's an

6741
03:48:04,620 --> 03:48:06,462
elementary -- pre-k, elementary,

6742
03:48:07,650 --> 03:48:09,465
middle and high school.

6743
03:48:13,838 --> 03:48:14,237
There's one south and north

6744
03:48:14,237 --> 03:48:16,237
bellamy.

6745
03:48:16,240 --> 03:48:17,809
It's a very busy intersection.

6746
03:48:17,809 --> 03:48:18,876
There's residences to the east

6747
03:48:18,876 --> 03:48:20,450
of that location.

6748
03:48:20,450 --> 03:48:22,347
What's west of the location?

6749
03:48:22,347 --> 03:48:23,800
Is the church, the preschool,

6750
03:48:23,800 --> 03:48:24,983
the middle school and elementary

6751
03:48:24,983 --> 03:48:26,116
school.

6752
03:48:26,116 --> 03:48:28,620
This is going to be a disaster.

6753
03:48:28,620 --> 03:48:30,388
This is a stick of dynamite with

6754
03:48:30,388 --> 03:48:32,257
a very short fuse.

6755
03:48:32,257 --> 03:48:34,993
Because you have buses, you have

6756
03:48:34,993 --> 03:48:36,728
people, you have couples young

6757
03:48:36,728 --> 03:48:37,361
and old walking hand in hand on

6758
03:48:37,361 --> 03:48:39,361
that sidewalk.

6759
03:48:42,199 --> 03:48:44,369
Which is going to go away,

6760
03:48:44,369 --> 03:48:47,370
7-eleven is open 24 hours, seven

6761
03:48:47,370 --> 03:48:49,370
days a week.

6762
03:48:50,800 --> 03:48:52,110
Selling alcohol, beer, wine,

6763
03:48:52,110 --> 03:48:54,110
vaping products, cigarettes.

6764
03:48:54,312 --> 03:48:56,470
That's not going to be limited

6765
03:48:56,470 --> 03:48:56,615
to inside that store.

6766
03:48:56,615 --> 03:48:58,615
Guarantee it.

6767
03:48:58,817 --> 03:48:59,551
This is not an isolated event.

6768
03:48:59,551 --> 03:49:01,353
Thank you for your time.

6769
03:49:01,353 --> 03:49:03,753
>> hearing master: thank you.

6770
03:49:04,990 --> 03:49:05,556
Next speaker, please.

6771
03:49:05,556 --> 03:49:07,556
Good evening.

6772
03:49:09,328 --> 03:49:12,328
>> hi, I am penelope jacobs.

6773
03:49:13,465 --> 03:49:16,000
I live at 630 # 3 nesting court.

6774
03:49:16,000 --> 03:49:17,703
I want to add on to a few points

6775
03:49:17,703 --> 03:49:19,703
I heard.

6776
03:49:21,139 --> 03:49:22,274
With the hillsdale baptist

6777
03:49:22,274 --> 03:49:24,409
church, there's a field where

6778
03:49:24,409 --> 03:49:26,677
kids play all assorts of games,

6779
03:49:26,677 --> 03:49:28,279
the only thing protecting from

6780
03:49:28,279 --> 03:49:32,479
this lot to that church is a

6781
03:49:32,484 --> 03:49:33,652
bunch o trees, I imagine those

6782
03:49:33,652 --> 03:49:35,187
would be torn down.

6783
03:49:35,187 --> 03:49:36,955
So it would leave the children

6784
03:49:36,955 --> 03:49:39,240
there exposed to alcohol

6785
03:49:39,240 --> 03:49:41,226
products and smoking, gambling,

6786
03:49:41,226 --> 03:49:44,226
all that kind of stuff.

6787
03:49:45,196 --> 03:49:46,465
And on top of that, the

6788
03:49:46,465 --> 03:49:46,799
intersection is already over

6789
03:49:46,799 --> 03:49:48,799
crowded.

6790
03:49:49,135 --> 03:49:52,705
I live back there, I g to a

6791
03:49:52,705 --> 03:49:55,105
school down ehrlich road.

6792
03:49:56,875 --> 03:50:01,675
I wake up at 6:45 to get to a

6793
03:50:02,140 --> 03:50:05,140
school a live 5 minutes away

6794
03:50:06,152 --> 03:50:07,519
from.

6795
03:50:07,519 --> 03:50:09,221
Squeezing gas tanker trucks into

6796
03:50:09,221 --> 03:50:10,880
a tight opening could cause a

6797
03:50:10,880 --> 03:50:11,857
lot of traffic.

6798
03:50:11,857 --> 03:50:12,458
Yeah, that's all.

6799
03:50:12,458 --> 03:50:13,250
>> hearing master: okay.

6800
03:50:13,250 --> 03:50:15,425
very good, thank you.

6801
03:50:16,896 --> 03:50:18,664
Please sign in.

6802
03:50:18,664 --> 03:50:21,664
Next person, there's somebody on

6803
03:50:23,636 --> 03:50:23,969
the left that's trying to come

6804
03:50:23,969 --> 03:50:24,537
forward.

6805
03:50:24,537 --> 03:50:26,537
Good evening.

6806
03:50:32,677 --> 03:50:33,479
>> hello, ginger wilson.

6807
03:50:33,479 --> 03:50:35,479
105cragy cliff street.

6808
03:50:36,182 --> 03:50:37,150
I live off of bellamy road for

6809
03:50:37,150 --> 03:50:38,951
about 27 years.

6810
03:50:38,951 --> 03:50:42,455
I moved on the outskirts of town

6811
03:50:42,455 --> 03:50:43,489
when I moved here, relocated

6812
03:50:43,489 --> 03:50:45,489
with my company.

6813
03:50:45,957 --> 03:50:47,959
I did not move downtown into the

6814
03:50:47,959 --> 03:50:50,562
city because I wanted to live on

6815
03:50:50,562 --> 03:50:54,162
the outskirts of town, because I

6816
03:50:54,634 --> 03:50:55,568
enjoy the wildlife in florida.

6817
03:50:55,568 --> 03:50:57,568
It's amazing.

6818
03:50:58,710 --> 03:50:59,973
And we have a nice quiet

6819
03:50:59,973 --> 03:51:01,775
community where there's tons of

6820
03:51:01,775 --> 03:51:03,900
animals, egrets, rose bills are

6821
03:51:03,900 --> 03:51:06,609
all in that big retention pond

6822
03:51:08,800 --> 03:51:10,800
next to us.

6823
03:51:10,682 --> 03:51:12,682
They're all around.

6824
03:51:13,286 --> 03:51:15,121
Sand hill cranes.

6825
03:51:15,121 --> 03:51:15,855
They deserve to have their space

6826
03:51:15,855 --> 03:51:17,570
to live.

6827
03:51:17,570 --> 03:51:18,570
The development has continued to

6828
03:51:18,570 --> 03:51:19,592
move things.

6829
03:51:19,592 --> 03:51:22,429
The traffic as other people, I'm

6830
03:51:22,429 --> 03:51:22,762
going to shorten up what I had

6831
03:51:22,762 --> 03:51:24,631
written.

6832
03:51:24,631 --> 03:51:26,399
The traffic situation is dire.

6833
03:51:26,399 --> 03:51:29,399
And whoever did that traffic

6834
03:51:29,903 --> 03:51:32,272
study, did not do it well

6835
03:51:32,272 --> 03:51:35,841
because if you live there, you

6836
03:51:35,841 --> 03:51:37,644
know, I've sign a person killed

6837
03:51:37,644 --> 03:51:38,645
on a bike at that intersection,

6838
03:51:38,645 --> 03:51:40,813
hit by a car.

6839
03:51:40,813 --> 03:51:43,483
Every day, you pull out, there's

6840
03:51:43,483 --> 03:51:44,884
more garbage in the street,

6841
03:51:44,884 --> 03:51:45,251
where there's been another

6842
03:51:45,251 --> 03:51:47,251
collision.

6843
03:51:48,221 --> 03:51:49,422
Cars back up, all the way past

6844
03:51:49,422 --> 03:51:51,900
MR. John's house.

6845
03:51:51,900 --> 03:51:53,459
Every morning, trying to make a

6846
03:51:53,459 --> 03:51:57,659
right turn out, or to make a

6847
03:51:58,965 --> 03:51:59,299
left turn out to go east on

6848
03:51:59,299 --> 03:52:00,634
ehrlich.

6849
03:52:00,634 --> 03:52:02,636
There's gas stations all around

6850
03:52:02,636 --> 03:52:03,603
us, in 27 years I've never run

6851
03:52:03,603 --> 03:52:05,438
out of gas.

6852
03:52:05,438 --> 03:52:06,939
Even in milton, because there's

6853
03:52:06,939 --> 03:52:07,206
plenty of gas stations around

6854
03:52:07,206 --> 03:52:09,206
me.

6855
03:52:10,777 --> 03:52:13,780
Every direction I can go when I

6856
03:52:13,780 --> 03:52:14,547
leave my home, has a gas

6857
03:52:14,547 --> 03:52:16,547
station.

6858
03:52:17,830 --> 03:52:17,384
There's not a gas station needed

6859
03:52:17,384 --> 03:52:19,384
there.

6860
03:52:21,554 --> 03:52:22,122
Not to mention, gas tanks

6861
03:52:22,122 --> 03:52:23,724
underground, do have

6862
03:52:23,724 --> 03:52:25,724
contamination.

6863
03:52:26,826 --> 03:52:28,395
And there's animals and wildlife

6864
03:52:28,395 --> 03:52:30,290
living out their lives.

6865
03:52:30,290 --> 03:52:34,229
It's wrong, we don't need it in

6866
03:52:37,171 --> 03:52:37,437
our neighborhood, we don't want

6867
03:52:37,437 --> 03:52:38,705
it.

6868
03:52:38,705 --> 03:52:40,507
The biggest thing, where the

6869
03:52:40,507 --> 03:52:42,609
church is, there's a cross-over.

6870
03:52:42,609 --> 03:52:43,310
People are trying to come out of

6871
03:52:43,310 --> 03:52:46,310
that church, turning left or

6872
03:52:52,753 --> 03:52:54,753
right.

6873
03:52:56,423 --> 03:52:58,240
On tom fuller, they built an

6874
03:52:58,240 --> 03:52:59,493
apartment complex, people are

6875
03:52:59,493 --> 03:53:01,261
turning out of tom fuller, turn

6876
03:53:01,261 --> 03:53:03,397
down there, and cut through,

6877
03:53:03,397 --> 03:53:06,800
make a u-turn at the church or

6878
03:53:06,800 --> 03:53:10,304
come down to bellamy and ehrlich

6879
03:53:10,304 --> 03:53:13,304
and make a u-turn there.

6880
03:53:14,742 --> 03:53:17,742
The traffic is already horrible.

6881
03:53:18,579 --> 03:53:19,580
I've seen people bumper to

6882
03:53:19,580 --> 03:53:21,580
bumper, four thick.

6883
03:53:22,349 --> 03:53:23,984
You put a 7-eleven there, and

6884
03:53:23,984 --> 03:53:26,419
try to make that another

6885
03:53:26,419 --> 03:53:27,421
cross-over, you have created

6886
03:53:27,421 --> 03:53:29,821
another huge traffic jam.

6887
03:53:30,624 --> 03:53:31,659
And blocking us from leaving our

6888
03:53:31,659 --> 03:53:33,659
neighborhood every morning.

6889
03:53:33,894 --> 03:53:35,290
It's wrong, we don't want it.

6890
03:53:35,290 --> 03:53:36,697
I'm sorry that the people that

6891
03:53:36,697 --> 03:53:38,666
live in the corner have been

6892
03:53:38,666 --> 03:53:40,701
unable to sell their house,

6893
03:53:40,701 --> 03:53:42,370
because it's been for sale for

6894
03:53:42,370 --> 03:53:43,170
pretty much the 27 years I've

6895
03:53:43,170 --> 03:53:45,170
lived there.

6896
03:53:45,372 --> 03:53:45,939
They haven't been able to sell

6897
03:53:45,939 --> 03:53:47,939
it, I'm sorry.

6898
03:53:48,743 --> 03:53:49,543
Sell it, figure it out.

6899
03:53:49,543 --> 03:53:51,278
There's a house across the

6900
03:53:51,278 --> 03:53:52,713
street from them that was vacant

6901
03:53:52,713 --> 03:53:54,150
many, many years.

6902
03:53:54,150 --> 03:53:55,583
Someone's finally there, and a

6903
03:53:55,583 --> 03:53:56,584
gas station is not consistent

6904
03:53:56,584 --> 03:53:56,884
with that neighborhood right

6905
03:53:56,884 --> 03:53:58,884
there.

6906
03:53:58,986 --> 03:53:59,687
It just isn't.

6907
03:53:59,687 --> 03:54:00,421
>> hearing master: all right.

6908
03:54:00,421 --> 03:54:02,421
Thank you, ma'am.

6909
03:54:06,193 --> 03:54:07,695
>> thank you.

6910
03:54:07,695 --> 03:54:10,950
>> hearing master: good evening.

6911
03:54:13,567 --> 03:54:16,567
Claudia cappiello, I live at

6912
03:54:23,578 --> 03:54:25,578
14949 barbie avenue.

6913
03:54:25,947 --> 03:54:28,347
>> hearing master: for the

6914
03:54:28,917 --> 03:54:31,917
record, I gave the applicant 2

6915
03:54:33,721 --> 03:54:35,924
extra minutes, I'll give the

6916
03:54:35,924 --> 03:54:37,924
speakers 2 extra minutes.

6917
03:54:38,159 --> 03:54:38,960
>> I am in opposition of this

6918
03:54:38,960 --> 03:54:40,960
development.

6919
03:54:41,696 --> 03:54:42,630
They have 870 signatures to this

6920
03:54:42,630 --> 03:54:44,630
petition.

6921
03:54:44,632 --> 03:54:46,300
Back in MARCH, when they were

6922
03:54:46,300 --> 03:54:48,203
trying to do a standard

6923
03:54:48,203 --> 03:54:49,700
rezoning, I had over 700 people

6924
03:54:49,700 --> 03:54:51,700
sign that petition.

6925
03:54:51,739 --> 03:54:54,476
The changes that these people

6926
03:54:54,476 --> 03:54:55,877
have put forth with this new

6927
03:54:55,877 --> 03:54:57,945
application doesn't address the

6928
03:54:57,945 --> 03:54:59,213
concerns of the community.

6929
03:54:59,213 --> 03:54:59,814
And they're definitely not in

6930
03:54:59,814 --> 03:55:01,349
support of having this

6931
03:55:01,349 --> 03:55:02,316
development.

6932
03:55:02,316 --> 03:55:02,617
>> hearing master: thank you,

6933
03:55:02,617 --> 03:55:04,617
ma'am.

6934
03:55:04,719 --> 03:55:05,487
There's a couple people online

6935
03:55:05,487 --> 03:55:07,889
that wanted to speak, let's hear

6936
03:55:07,889 --> 03:55:09,691
from them.

6937
03:55:09,691 --> 03:55:11,691
Go ahead.

6938
03:55:12,861 --> 03:55:14,861
>> jennifer?

6939
03:55:15,960 --> 03:55:17,960
>> hi, good evening.

6940
03:55:17,933 --> 03:55:21,533
My name is jennifer anderson, I

6941
03:55:23,371 --> 03:55:24,506
have resided at 1472 red cliff

6942
03:55:24,506 --> 03:55:26,506
drive for 16 years.

6943
03:55:26,908 --> 03:55:28,376
Off of bellamy road, we have

6944
03:55:28,376 --> 03:55:31,130
thousands of homes in addition

6945
03:55:31,130 --> 03:55:33,470
to those 9hoa communities.

6946
03:55:33,470 --> 03:55:36,470
Living in our residential area,

6947
03:55:36,251 --> 03:55:39,851
we have access to large lots,

6948
03:55:39,855 --> 03:55:41,230
property to house farm animals.

6949
03:55:41,230 --> 03:55:42,991
Our rural neighborhood is quiet,

6950
03:55:42,991 --> 03:55:45,991
safe and relatively low traffic

6951
03:55:46,561 --> 03:55:48,363
when it comes to just

6952
03:55:48,363 --> 03:55:50,532
automobiles and our residents

6953
03:55:50,532 --> 03:55:53,101
that travel to and from work.

6954
03:55:53,101 --> 03:55:54,937
We don't have any commercial

6955
03:55:54,937 --> 03:55:57,673
traffic that comes on bellamy,

6956
03:55:57,673 --> 03:55:58,807
as we don't have those outlets

6957
03:55:58,807 --> 03:56:01,207
to turn around in.

6958
03:56:01,610 --> 03:56:04,610
At rush hour, traffic increases

6959
03:56:07,383 --> 03:56:09,184
on ehrlich road, it can be

6960
03:56:09,184 --> 03:56:10,652
backed up from farmington

6961
03:56:10,652 --> 03:56:12,755
boulevard, to lynn turner road,

6962
03:56:12,755 --> 03:56:14,557
taking an additional 15 minutes

6963
03:56:14,557 --> 03:56:17,226
to travel just one mile.

6964
03:56:17,226 --> 03:56:20,226
You will find students riding

6965
03:56:20,562 --> 03:56:22,430
their bikes to and from school.

6966
03:56:22,430 --> 03:56:25,166
Residents walking between a mile

6967
03:56:25,166 --> 03:56:26,735
to one and a half miles to one

6968
03:56:26,735 --> 03:56:28,570
of our two public stores and

6969
03:56:28,570 --> 03:56:30,570
shopping plazas.

6970
03:56:31,730 --> 03:56:33,475
The cyclists and even the

6971
03:56:33,475 --> 03:56:33,775
occasional shetland pony and

6972
03:56:33,775 --> 03:56:35,775
buggy.

6973
03:56:36,110 --> 03:56:37,120
The proposed location is

6974
03:56:37,120 --> 03:56:39,348
dangerous to the potential

6975
03:56:39,348 --> 03:56:41,348
customers conducting illegal

6976
03:56:41,450 --> 03:56:44,319
traffic maneuvers, such as u

6977
03:56:44,319 --> 03:56:44,620
hifr turning at the traffic

6978
03:56:44,620 --> 03:56:46,620
light.

6979
03:56:47,230 --> 03:56:49,291
Traffic entering and exiting the

6980
03:56:49,291 --> 03:56:50,192
veteran's expressway --

6981
03:56:50,192 --> 03:56:50,960
>> hearing master: ma'am, I need

6982
03:56:50,960 --> 03:56:54,560
you to wrap up your comments,

6983
03:56:56,332 --> 03:56:58,332
please.

6984
03:56:58,367 --> 03:57:00,903
>> the proposed site should nt

6985
03:57:00,903 --> 03:57:02,505
be approved, there are many

6986
03:57:02,505 --> 03:57:04,505
environmental concerns, across

6987
03:57:08,911 --> 03:57:11,311
the street of 14702 bellamy

6988
03:57:11,381 --> 03:57:14,316
road, there's a sign that states

6989
03:57:14,316 --> 03:57:16,316
wildlife entering highway.

6990
03:57:17,190 --> 03:57:18,187
This would be better used as a

6991
03:57:18,187 --> 03:57:20,187
residential home.

6992
03:57:21,691 --> 03:57:22,725
The 38% area that is wetland,

6993
03:57:22,725 --> 03:57:24,526
it's already been mentioned.

6994
03:57:24,526 --> 03:57:26,229
We have many of the animals that

6995
03:57:26,229 --> 03:57:29,229
have already been discussed that

6996
03:57:30,800 --> 03:57:35,000
are at risk of dying or being

6997
03:57:37,140 --> 03:57:37,573
displaced.

6998
03:57:37,573 --> 03:57:38,641
Hillsdale --

6999
03:57:38,641 --> 03:57:40,610
>> hearing master: ma'am, can

7000
03:57:40,610 --> 03:57:40,943
you wrap up your comments,

7001
03:57:40,943 --> 03:57:42,111
please?

7002
03:57:42,111 --> 03:57:42,979
>> it's wrapped.

7003
03:57:42,979 --> 03:57:45,379
>> hearing master: I think

7004
03:57:45,615 --> 03:57:48,615
there's one more gentleman on

7005
03:57:49,352 --> 03:57:49,685
line, and that will cone

7006
03:57:49,685 --> 03:57:50,153
included

7007
03:57:50,153 --> 03:57:50,753
--

7008
03:57:50,753 --> 03:57:51,387
conclude the opposition

7009
03:57:51,387 --> 03:57:52,222
testimony.

7010
03:57:52,222 --> 03:57:52,922
>> hello.

7011
03:57:52,922 --> 03:57:54,156
>> hearing master: go ahead,

7012
03:57:54,156 --> 03:57:54,991
sir.

7013
03:57:54,991 --> 03:57:55,892
>> hello?

7014
03:57:55,892 --> 03:57:56,225
>> can you hear me?

7015
03:57:56,225 --> 03:57:58,225
>> yes.

7016
03:58:01,631 --> 03:58:03,631
>> okay.

7017
03:58:05,680 --> 03:58:07,303
My name is john parachini.

7018
03:58:07,303 --> 03:58:11,503
I live on bellamy road for over

7019
03:58:14,410 --> 03:58:15,645
40 years, I came to make

7020
03:58:15,645 --> 03:58:17,645
comments tonight.

7021
03:58:19,316 --> 03:58:22,916
I can cut them short, after

7022
03:58:23,519 --> 03:58:25,922
listening to MR. Bailey from the

7023
03:58:25,922 --> 03:58:28,322
hillsborough baptist church, he

7024
03:58:28,959 --> 03:58:31,959
detailed quite a number of

7025
03:58:33,963 --> 03:58:35,164
objections, very viable

7026
03:58:35,164 --> 03:58:35,932
objections to this reapplication

7027
03:58:35,932 --> 03:58:37,932
or rezoning.

7028
03:58:38,168 --> 03:58:40,360
I would like to make a couple

7029
03:58:40,360 --> 03:58:43,360
points specific to my own

7030
03:58:45,309 --> 03:58:47,709
property, relative to specific

7031
03:58:48,110 --> 03:58:49,112
changes to bellamy road.

7032
03:58:49,112 --> 03:58:50,413
They are wetlands, water and

7033
03:58:50,413 --> 03:58:52,413
flooding.

7034
03:58:53,383 --> 03:58:56,120
The water in the wetlands

7035
03:58:56,120 --> 03:58:58,120
resides on 14702 bellamy.

7036
03:58:58,222 --> 03:58:58,522
It doesn't sit on my property at

7037
03:58:58,522 --> 03:59:00,323
all.

7038
03:59:00,323 --> 03:59:03,600
The only occasion where it does

7039
03:59:03,600 --> 03:59:05,162
in fact come on to my property

7040
03:59:05,162 --> 03:59:08,970
now is during the confluence of

7041
03:59:08,970 --> 03:59:09,432
storms, tropical storms,

7042
03:59:09,432 --> 03:59:11,432
hurricanes.

7043
03:59:11,869 --> 03:59:14,269
Thunderstorms, and my back

7044
03:59:14,638 --> 03:59:15,839
property now will flood.

7045
03:59:15,839 --> 03:59:18,239
Historically, excess water from

7046
03:59:19,309 --> 03:59:22,346
the wetlands moves to the west.

7047
03:59:22,346 --> 03:59:24,214
That all changed when the church

7048
03:59:24,214 --> 03:59:27,217
came in and the western edge of

7049
03:59:27,217 --> 03:59:29,617
the wetlands was fortified.

7050
03:59:29,653 --> 03:59:31,522
now, any excess water from the

7051
03:59:31,522 --> 03:59:33,524
wetlands escaping there comes

7052
03:59:33,524 --> 03:59:33,891
north on to my property

7053
03:59:33,891 --> 03:59:35,891
directly.

7054
03:59:37,995 --> 03:59:40,631
As a consequence, you cannot

7055
03:59:40,631 --> 03:59:43,233
allow for any setbacks, any

7056
03:59:43,233 --> 03:59:45,435
variances, any reduction in the

7057
03:59:45,435 --> 03:59:45,736
capacity of the wetlands to hold

7058
03:59:45,736 --> 03:59:47,736
water.

7059
03:59:48,205 --> 03:59:49,539
You can't do it, you will flood

7060
03:59:49,539 --> 03:59:50,907
my property without question,

7061
03:59:50,907 --> 03:59:52,907
with greater frequency.

7062
03:59:54,478 --> 03:59:55,579
This is a lived experience.

7063
03:59:55,579 --> 03:59:57,115
This is not conjecture.

7064
03:59:57,115 --> 03:59:57,815
Am I out of time?

7065
03:59:57,815 --> 03:59:58,182
>> hearing master: yes, thank

7066
03:59:58,182 --> 04:00:00,182
you, sir.

7067
04:00:00,184 --> 04:00:01,619
Appreciate it.

7068
04:00:01,619 --> 04:00:02,653
>> thank you very much.

7069
04:00:02,653 --> 04:00:02,920
>> hearing master: thank you,

7070
04:00:02,920 --> 04:00:04,920
sir.

7071
04:00:05,322 --> 04:00:06,560
There are a couple people that

7072
04:00:06,560 --> 04:00:08,250
stood up.

7073
04:00:08,250 --> 04:00:09,493
Time has expired, if you'd like

7074
04:00:09,493 --> 04:00:11,228
to put your name and address on

7075
04:00:11,228 --> 04:00:13,698
the record, so you can speak at

7076
04:00:13,698 --> 04:00:14,932
a later hearing, if that's your

7077
04:00:14,932 --> 04:00:17,435
desire, can you come forward and

7078
04:00:17,435 --> 04:00:18,870
do that.

7079
04:00:18,870 --> 04:00:21,270
Otherwise, I'll close opposition

7080
04:00:22,106 --> 04:00:23,174
testimony at this point in time.

7081
04:00:23,174 --> 04:00:24,508
Is there anyone that wants to

7082
04:00:24,508 --> 04:00:24,908
put their name and address on

7083
04:00:24,908 --> 04:00:26,744
the record.

7084
04:00:26,744 --> 04:00:28,744
Okay.

7085
04:00:30,140 --> 04:00:31,150
With that, that concludes the

7086
04:00:31,150 --> 04:00:33,150
opposition and development

7087
04:00:34,152 --> 04:00:35,485
services, any further comments.

7088
04:00:35,485 --> 04:00:36,287
>> no, sir.

7089
04:00:36,287 --> 04:00:38,287
>> hearing master: okay.

7090
04:00:38,289 --> 04:00:40,689
The applicant has the

7091
04:00:41,625 --> 04:00:42,960
opportunity for rebuttal.

7092
04:00:42,960 --> 04:00:45,697
You have five minutes for

7093
04:00:45,697 --> 04:00:47,697
rebuttal.

7094
04:00:49,567 --> 04:00:50,768
I'll give you two extra minutes,

7095
04:00:50,768 --> 04:00:51,169
given the time to the

7096
04:00:51,169 --> 04:00:52,837
opposition.

7097
04:00:52,837 --> 04:00:54,472
>> thank you, I'll keep it

7098
04:00:54,472 --> 04:00:55,707
within my five.

7099
04:00:55,707 --> 04:00:57,208
We understand there are several

7100
04:00:57,208 --> 04:00:59,608
technical approvals that still

7101
04:00:59,643 --> 04:01:01,379
need to occur on this property.

7102
04:01:01,379 --> 04:01:02,714
The -- this includes the design

7103
04:01:02,714 --> 04:01:04,382
exceptions that we mentioned

7104
04:01:04,382 --> 04:01:06,818
regarding the wetland and also

7105
04:01:06,818 --> 04:01:08,887
the bellamy road extensions.

7106
04:01:08,887 --> 04:01:12,122
This is not the time or place

7107
04:01:12,122 --> 04:01:12,523
for those to be the forefront of

7108
04:01:12,523 --> 04:01:14,523
discussion.

7109
04:01:14,792 --> 04:01:16,461
We have opportunities to develop

7110
04:01:16,461 --> 04:01:19,461
the site, the site development

7111
04:01:20,232 --> 04:01:22,232
process itself.

7112
04:01:24,469 --> 04:01:25,770
The rezoning to the planned

7113
04:01:25,770 --> 04:01:27,770
development, has these

7114
04:01:28,974 --> 04:01:30,408
discussions as part of what

7115
04:01:30,408 --> 04:01:32,808
we're trying t prove.

7116
04:01:32,811 --> 04:01:35,811
We have talked to staff.

7117
04:01:36,470 --> 04:01:37,382
Staff has reviewed the rezoning

7118
04:01:37,382 --> 04:01:40,284
application and site plan we

7119
04:01:40,284 --> 04:01:42,684
submitted for the rezoning,

7120
04:01:54,132 --> 04:01:55,467
which we have here which does

7121
04:01:55,467 --> 04:01:57,803
not consider all development

7122
04:01:57,803 --> 04:01:58,170
standards for a final site plan

7123
04:01:58,170 --> 04:02:00,170
approval.

7124
04:02:00,205 --> 04:02:02,605
And we understand that.

7125
04:02:02,841 --> 04:02:04,842
There has been comments

7126
04:02:04,842 --> 04:02:05,144
regarding the sidewalk going

7127
04:02:05,144 --> 04:02:06,444
away.

7128
04:02:06,444 --> 04:02:08,480
We are extending the sidewalk,

7129
04:02:08,480 --> 04:02:09,915
we are making it a 10-foot

7130
04:02:09,915 --> 04:02:11,717
sidewalk on the property.

7131
04:02:11,717 --> 04:02:14,717
Which would be supportive of

7132
04:02:16,255 --> 04:02:16,888
pedestrians pathways and bike

7133
04:02:16,888 --> 04:02:17,923
movement and pedestrians

7134
04:02:17,923 --> 04:02:18,657
movement across the property,

7135
04:02:18,657 --> 04:02:21,657
through the property and along

7136
04:02:21,926 --> 04:02:23,796
the property.

7137
04:02:23,796 --> 04:02:25,564
There was inconsistent

7138
04:02:25,564 --> 04:02:27,564
statements regarding bellamy

7139
04:02:28,400 --> 04:02:30,769
being a main road or an arterial

7140
04:02:30,769 --> 04:02:34,773
road or a small road that can't

7141
04:02:34,773 --> 04:02:37,800
support any sort of movement.

7142
04:02:37,800 --> 04:02:39,512
But our traffic study has shown

7143
04:02:39,512 --> 04:02:43,712
that one, there's a pass by rate

7144
04:02:43,883 --> 04:02:46,510
of 75%, and also through our

7145
04:02:46,510 --> 04:02:49,510
study, there are adequate trips

7146
04:02:49,521 --> 04:02:52,521
that would be supported by

7147
04:03:10,743 --> 04:03:12,178
bellamy and ehrlich.

7148
04:03:12,178 --> 04:03:13,613
Again, there's an important

7149
04:03:13,613 --> 04:03:14,680
distinction between approving a

7150
04:03:14,680 --> 04:03:15,647
land use and the development of

7151
04:03:15,647 --> 04:03:17,647
the property.

7152
04:03:17,750 --> 04:03:20,219
Approval of the pd, does not

7153
04:03:20,219 --> 04:03:20,553
give the applicant a building

7154
04:03:20,553 --> 04:03:22,553
permit.

7155
04:03:23,389 --> 04:03:24,190
It does not approve the bellamy

7156
04:03:24,190 --> 04:03:25,525
road design exception.

7157
04:03:25,525 --> 04:03:27,226
We understand those things need

7158
04:03:27,226 --> 04:03:29,896
to be discussed with the county.

7159
04:03:29,896 --> 04:03:32,310
And we're willing to implement

7160
04:03:32,310 --> 04:03:32,764
any sort of conditions the

7161
04:03:32,764 --> 04:03:36,964
county is willing to put on this

7162
04:03:43,876 --> 04:03:45,876
property.

7163
04:03:46,245 --> 04:03:48,645
>> good evening, michael razor

7164
04:03:48,815 --> 04:03:52,415
for the record, bruce b. Downs

7165
04:03:52,785 --> 04:03:54,785
boulevard, tampa, florida.

7166
04:03:55,221 --> 04:03:55,888
I'm the traffic consultant for

7167
04:03:55,888 --> 04:03:57,888
the project.

7168
04:03:58,191 --> 04:04:00,726
As -- I'll just continue -- this

7169
04:04:00,726 --> 04:04:01,995
is the very rudest hearing I've

7170
04:04:01,995 --> 04:04:03,697
ever attended.

7171
04:04:03,697 --> 04:04:05,165
And I've been doing this for 30

7172
04:04:05,165 --> 04:04:07,165
plus years.

7173
04:04:10,670 --> 04:04:11,905
The great majority of traffic

7174
04:04:11,905 --> 04:04:14,700
generated by this site is

7175
04:04:14,700 --> 04:04:15,909
already back on the road, it

7176
04:04:15,909 --> 04:04:17,143
turns into the site and out of

7177
04:04:17,143 --> 04:04:19,143
the site.

7178
04:04:19,345 --> 04:04:20,213
It's not a dissension, it's a

7179
04:04:20,213 --> 04:04:22,213
convenience store.

7180
04:04:23,316 --> 04:04:24,618
We have two right in, right out

7181
04:04:24,618 --> 04:04:26,618
driveways proposed.

7182
04:04:27,454 --> 04:04:29,854
The major discussion regarding

7183
04:04:29,990 --> 04:04:32,990
right-of-way on the eastside of

7184
04:04:33,293 --> 04:04:34,995
bellamy is proposing to put in a

7185
04:04:34,995 --> 04:04:37,960
four-foot concrete separator to

7186
04:04:37,960 --> 04:04:38,165
prevent left turns at that

7187
04:04:38,165 --> 04:04:39,833
bellamy driveway.

7188
04:04:39,833 --> 04:04:42,200
That will improve not only the

7189
04:04:42,200 --> 04:04:43,603
safety of bellamy in this

7190
04:04:43,603 --> 04:04:45,138
particular area, by separating

7191
04:04:45,138 --> 04:04:47,538
opposing lanes of traffic.

7192
04:04:48,108 --> 04:04:50,430
But part of that separator will

7193
04:04:50,430 --> 04:04:52,179
extend the southbound left turn

7194
04:04:52,179 --> 04:04:52,546
lane, which is currently

7195
04:04:52,546 --> 04:04:54,546
deficient.

7196
04:04:54,648 --> 04:04:55,682
That's why we hear about issues

7197
04:04:55,682 --> 04:04:56,116
with this particular

7198
04:04:56,116 --> 04:04:57,551
intersection.

7199
04:04:57,551 --> 04:04:58,719
The turn lanes are not long

7200
04:04:58,719 --> 04:05:01,719
enough, in the existing state.

7201
04:05:03,890 --> 04:05:04,691
If this gets approved, there

7202
04:05:04,691 --> 04:05:07,910
will be material improvements

7203
04:05:07,194 --> 04:05:08,762
that will not only cure existing

7204
04:05:08,762 --> 04:05:10,564
deficiencies, but will also

7205
04:05:10,564 --> 04:05:12,980
accommodate the particular site.

7206
04:05:12,980 --> 04:05:14,268
At the intersection now during

7207
04:05:14,268 --> 04:05:15,736
peak hours as identified in the

7208
04:05:15,736 --> 04:05:16,603
morning, to be at level service

7209
04:05:16,603 --> 04:05:18,603
c and b.

7210
04:05:19,973 --> 04:05:21,175
In the afternoon, that's with or

7211
04:05:21,175 --> 04:05:21,575
without this station being

7212
04:05:21,575 --> 04:05:23,575
developed.

7213
04:05:26,413 --> 04:05:28,182
The only level service in the

7214
04:05:28,182 --> 04:05:28,949
report is level c, compared to a

7215
04:05:28,949 --> 04:05:30,949
d standard.

7216
04:05:30,985 --> 04:05:34,585
And I will conclude by saying

7217
04:05:34,888 --> 04:05:36,230
that u-turns are not illegal

7218
04:05:36,230 --> 04:05:38,124
movements, they are permissible

7219
04:05:38,124 --> 04:05:38,626
as long as there's not a sign

7220
04:05:38,626 --> 04:05:40,626
restricting those.

7221
04:05:41,629 --> 04:05:42,363
I would be happy to answer any

7222
04:05:42,363 --> 04:05:44,763
specific traffic questions you

7223
04:05:47,167 --> 04:05:48,302
MAY have.

7224
04:05:48,302 --> 04:05:50,170
>> hearing master: does that

7225
04:05:50,170 --> 04:05:50,605
conclude your presentation on

7226
04:05:50,605 --> 04:05:51,338
your rebuttal?

7227
04:05:51,338 --> 04:05:53,374
>> it does, thank you for your

7228
04:05:53,374 --> 04:05:54,241
time.

7229
04:05:54,241 --> 04:05:55,776
>> hearing master: with that,

7230
04:05:55,776 --> 04:05:57,912
this concludes this application.

7231
04:05:57,912 --> 04:05:59,790
And that concludes tonight's

7232
04:05:59,790 --> 04:06:01,479
zoning hearing master hearing.