Good evening and welcome to the August 10th 2026 regular meeting of the
Hillsborough Town Board of Commissioners.
The public charge is printed in the agenda this evening. I will not read it
out loud, but the discussion is our adventure to call in public meetings.
Sarah Durney audience members signed up. >> No.
» Okay, good. Um is there a motion to approve the
agenda? >> So moved.
» Second. Okay, thank you. Kathleen, thank you Matt. All in favor?
» Aye. >> Any opposed?
And on to item number four, appointments. This evening we have um
uh the reappointment of David Blankfard as the town regular member
to the Board of Adjustment for a term ending September 30th, 2029.
And the second item is a resolution requesting the Orange County Board of
Commissioners reappoint Richard Chapel to the Board of Adjustment as an extra
territorial jurisdiction regular member. >> Move to approve as presented.
» Second. Thank you Kathleen, thank you Matt. All in favor?
» Aye. >> Any opposed?
You are not so And on to item number five, the consent
agenda for this evening. Was there a motion?
» Move to approve as presented. >> Second.
» Thank you Kathleen, thank you Matt. All in favor?
» Aye. >> Any opposed?
And that very quickly takes us to the regular agenda for this evening.
Um the first item is fiscal year 2026 strategic plan annual report
and proposed fiscal year 2028-30 strategic plan process with
administrative services director Ben Brubaker.
Ben. >> Good evening.
All right. Um, so I'll go ahead and get started with the 26 annual report and
then we'll move on to the update for the um, FY 28 through 30 strategic planning
process and um, uh, open it up for feedback. But um, if
you have any questions as we go along on the annual report, feel free to jump in.
Um, the way I broke out the PowerPoint was
to go focus area by focus area as we normally do and um,
uh, the slides have the various initiatives, um, a summary of where we
ended in the fiscal year with the particular initiative as well as um, a
quick visual red, yellow, green to um, quickly denote kind of where where we
felt um, we are with the particular initiative. So, if you all are okay with
that, we'll just proceed um, in that form.
All right, so we'll start off with the sustainability focus area.
Were there any questions for um, initiatives 1.1 through 2.4?
» I actually do have a question but >> Okay.
» Yeah. I did not find that by the way.
» [laughter] >> No worries.
» As part of the UDO cuz um, are we taking a look at at housing code
because I saw that Durham was able to make changes to strengthen minimum
housing. Can we do the same because we have an issue in places with
what passes for code is I'm sorry, not habitable.
Yeah, have we taken a look at that within the DDO and can we strengthen and
I know there are limitations with with state law, but we don't
our ability can be can we enhance it?
» Yeah, I'll turn it over to Matt to give us
further thoughts. >> Yes, ma'am. So, the our actual our
minimum housing code is not actually part of the UDO, it's a separate part of
our code ordinances. We did a group of updates last year.
Um we're actually going to talk at next week next Excuse me, the work session in
2 weeks about some minimum housing code cases and that'll be a good time to talk
with Shannon about additional updates you all would like to see, but it's not
part of the UDO process. >> Okay, thank you. But thank you for
already thinking ahead on that one.
» Other questions on this slide?
I'm not seeing any.
Move to the next slide.
Any other initiatives on this slide?
I'll give you a second to look through it if you need to.
All right. >> I want to know if you could just give me
a few more minutes. >> Yes.
Yes, we're still moving.
» Help me remember for the tree preservation policy, would that be town
wide? >> That was for the town-owned
» Just the town-owned >> town-maintained trees.
» Okay. >> I actually do have a question. I'm not
sure where where the best
what the best venue is to ask.
Because in um Hillsborough Heights
» [laughter] >> have the trees.
I know I was named a tree steward for one of the trees that has no hope for
survival because it was planted too close to
It's a magnolia that was planted way too close to
uh I think it was a maple and it's a uh a a a a
mulberry mulberry or other one of those very Anyway, it has no hope.
» Mhm. >> It is older than my magnolia. My
magnolia is probably two times plus the size cuz it doesn't get sunlight.
Um I know I don't even know how to
I I know periodically I'll raise this and you're probably the best person but
it either needs to be moved, cut down because the poor thing has no hope for
survival and I'm still rather astounded of
if you planted why the heck you plant it so close to big spread tree cuz it's a
it's a top canopy tree not an understory tree.
» Is it in the sidewalk? >> No, it's in the It's in the It's the
park. >> Oh,
this is like a Stephanie question. >> Mhm. Yeah.
It's it's um in the park but this predates Stephanie when we employed
Margaret and I don't remember the other
Margaret's last name. >> Schaffer.
» Schaffer, thank you. It's like I knew it started with an S.
Did she name me tree steward or steward? I'm like, I would love to uh
It ain't getting no sun and I can't fix that.
» Well, appreciate you raising that. I see Matt taking a note so we'll make sure to
pass that along. >> And Caesar, go back. Just give it a nice
death treat I mean to transplant it you have to be
but it ain't got no hope for survival. >> Jackie, you got one?
» Jackie, go back one slide to four real quick.
So slide two where we talked about electrifying
our fleet. You know, there's a comment in there about one hybrid
vehicle. So we
I guess the question is are we looking to
at some point be fully electrified or we going to are we transitioning to a
hybrid? >> Yeah, so I think we haven't really
wanted to be on the front lines of testing electric vehicles.
So we've been um uh with the
transition to the hybrid police vehicles and
I know our our fleet staff has also been attending conferences and kind of seeing
what vehicles are out there as far as electric options, talking to people. At
this time felt like we weren't at the position to start that process yet but
has been trying to stay in the loop and kind of understand the field of
and learn on electric vehicles. >> And if I remember correctly, part of it
also is because a significant amount of our fleet involves
um police vehicles that are take home. How do you manage that piece? I remember
that being like a really sticky wicket. >> Yeah, there's definitely the
infrastructure and the charging infrastructure component and kind of
what do we have available in town, what do the officers have that would be
needed and how at their house. So there's definitely a lot of different
components to that electric um conversion process.
» Something that seems really simple but suddenly has a lot of you know
» [clears throat] >> infrastructure potentially that an
officer would have to would have to have at [clears throat]
home and how you compensate for for that literally and figuratively.
» Thank you.
» Maybe on this slide. All right, so we'll move on to connected
community and we only have two initiatives here.
» I have a I have a question with 1.2 and I
I'm trying to I think I understand it, but
how is it connected to the multi-modal network?
And where where I think it is
if we're trying to
I feel I'm just I'm I'm trying to understand how they are
um >> How
how it fits into connected community as a focus area? Is that what you were
» Specifically advance in multi-modal network to reduce the single occupant
vehicles and links to other residents to key places and other
um And so I get the it links to good
places, but then my disconnect is how does it advance
multi-modal network?
» So I think it was and I'll have to go back to see how it's connected, but the
thought of how it fits in was the um creating opportunities to bring people
together um in the connected
aspect of things, um but not necessarily the the multi-modal perspective, but it
might be a component of like you know, um
» [clears throat] >> those multi-modal features that would
have public art, but more so just gathering community in in
terms of those like spontaneous interactions bringing people together.
» So I would I would imagine that 1. 2 would connect with 1.3
in the sense that when we do have bridge walk, there might
be ways of incorporating the public art.
Um and then also the same with the train station. Like you
» Yep. >> Not letting those opportunities when
we're already going to invest a lot of infrastructure
to to be wasted by not utilizing those spaces for art. Is that kind of the
thought process? >> That's what I recall.
Kim, I mean, not I'm not saying this as I'm not saying to use the community
center as the first time to do this. But this is one of the perfect
uh projects that every place else is funded
by private money. Not Not, you know, government contributes, but it's
leveraged at best. Not solely. We continue to be funding a
lot of the bills and not getting private funds, philanthropy.
Um I you said I I I support this for the
community center, but I want to start seeing This is a community value.
It We need to see private money donations for these kinds of of things
because of We're We're To me, we're at the point
We've got so much that it continues where just getting
things done requires our budget.
» Right. Definitely Definitely strained. >> It's very strained, but this is it's a
community value. This is when we need the community
to step up.
» Thanks for >> The bridge walk is another opportunity
where again, any place else, you're going to get philanthropic
dollars. And I haven't seen anybody We We have an entire community that's
excited about it, but I haven't seen anyone that's so
excited they're willing to actually contribute beyond their tax dollars.
» And I believe for Ridge Walk, that was going to be a component of something
of us that would be assessed down the line when we get to that point.
» We're not We're not there yet. >> I know we're not
» going to have the design and we're not going to have the line plan.
» No, I know I I know that. But I'm still I'm putting the word out because
this is a long term and even with philanthropic dollars, when families are
considering who they want to um where they want their legacy to be
and they're planning for that legacy and this is Ridge Walk and some of these
things are perfect legacy projects for philanthropic dollars. So, I want to
start planting those seeds because when we start to make when we when we have
these decisions to make, and especially as budgeting goes,
once that budget hits, it's too late to ask.
So, I am putting out the plea early for the community. This is These are values,
but the values need to be supported with dollars.
» Thanks for that reminder.
Economic vitality.
And there will be another slide for that one, but any on these initiatives?
All right, seeing any?
» Actually, I do. >> All right.
» One question 1.4 in it.
» Is that Hillsborough magazine? What magazine?
» I think it's uh I might have had it in the solar report, but I I I think it's a
Chapel Hill uh Best of Chapel Hill magazine.
» That's right. >> Um
I'm sorry, that's not I wasn't I wasn't >> [clears throat]
» I get curious, so who's our target by placing it in Chapel Hill? Who's our
target? >> I think the thought is to try to attract
people to come to our um Hillsborough um
you know, restaurant scene, business scene, and so when they see the ad,
it'll encourage them to come and take a visit.
» Day tripper type of >> Yes, mhm.
Exactly. >> What's what Did we look at Durham?
Is it's a bigger market and it's still close by?
» I'm not sure. Hey, do you know? We'll make a note of that as well.
» Shannon could answer us. >> Sorry.
» We have a tourism meeting on Wednesday, also.
» Mhm. >> Howard
» That would be out of that budget, I think. Yeah.
» Yeah. >> Never meeting, but um
Something here to discuss. >> Thank you.
That'd be great.
» All right.
» Oh, here. Here's a nice two-bedroom unit.
So, has there been any more talk or discussion about
coordinating with the chamber to develop the entrepreneurial center
on the second floor? >> Yes. Um
and I got invited to a ribbon cutting in September, I think.
» Okay. Yeah. >> Yeah, the plan Yeah, I was impressed
with the the plan and I think PHE is funding most of it.
» And it it looks Yeah, looks like it. >> Looks like it.
» Look out for a invitation from Sky nine. >> What did you say about the last one?
» Awesome. Thanks for that insight. >> And thank you, PHE. That's what we're
talking about. They deserve a huge I actually big
picture, they deserve a huge shout-out because they are true community
investors, not only this, but the Habitat House, they they fund a bunch of
community things. They contribute to
in a variety of areas year after year after year.
» Yeah, I think it'd be good to identify those
two Hillsborough businesses that have been
supporters of the town through through years. They've been a big
come up with their place to be in the corporate council.
» This is the last booth for economic vitality.
The NLC webinar on road is tomorrow.
» Or 21st century since they combined the names.
» Road 21st century now, something like that.
» Yeah, because they were they It was >> It just thing got like clunky the way
they >> Well, they were just they had the road
and then they had the 21st century and said, "Here, we'll just throw it
together and it'll become one. And no one will notice."
» As we've made it a quarter of the way through the 21st century.
» [laughter]
» All right. Not seeing anything here. We'll move on to community safety.
I um Eva Marshals in the back and Chief Juan
is here, too, if there's any questions. >> So, how did the
uh police program
how did it fare out? Like, what was the response?
» I've heard good things, but I >> I saw the pictures of other folks doing
the ride-alongs at the police academy. >> We had a great reception to that. Uh I
think we had roughly 14 uh [clears throat]
attendings or participants that went through was it four or five weeks?
Uh I got a lot of great feedback, especially for the first time doing it
in a long time. Uh
and uh some of the stuff that they liked from
it, like some of the feedback we got was the hands-on exercise that they got to
do with uh CIB investigations. So, we're going to try to re-implement that again
in government 101, so people have something to look forward to that.
» Did they do cuz I know the first time around, in addition to fingerprinting
the backseat of the car, um
but but um >> We didn't do the ride-alongs. We didn't
have to have the right type of terrain to do it on to fill in the you know,
especially if it's too hard, but they did have where they got to do uh
They did fingerprint lifting but on certain types of items and stuff that
they could take home with them. They really appreciated that.
Um but yeah, that's People are already
asking about next year. And some people Someone else asked if we were going to
do it again this year, but I think one a year right now is a
good start. But it was it was really good really good turnout good reception.
» Cool. Cuz I know I did it twice and it was just way way good fun.
» It's a lot It's a lot of fun. It really is.
» Did they do the ride-alongs? I don't think he said. I could be wrong
on that. Oh, man. >> Oh, wait wait wait. That's scheduled for
afterwards. >> Okay.
» Once the academy completed, then they were able to
come link up with the police department and schedule something.
» And I still have to follow through because it's about time we moved.
» Let me know. >> I will.
» [laughter] >> Don't worry, it'll be the quietest night
that will ever happen. >> All right, so that's all I do. I do want
to have a relaxing evening. >> Well, it'll happen county-wide. That's
what Santa did every time he moved.
» Great. >> All right, so um
» Can I pop back to I'm sorry. >> Which one?
» The economic vitality freedom.
» The translation one? >> Yeah, so
um we're talking about translating business documents and forms in
other relevant languages. So if a system first step to be able to communicate in
other languages. So um my
I'm interested is it and it's where utilizing or we have any interest in
utilizing plain language for really our all the Jason documents to
make them easier for people to understand and
um and I don't So that's my that's the only
thing with that. I know this is more language translation.
Uh but um
is Do you know if coms has talked about >> Yeah, I'm not I I haven't seen Cheryl's
face. I'm I'm sure she's smiling back there because they communications has
been all about making things more about plain language
um whether that's um in news releases or documents that we put out, really trying
to um make it easier to understand. Um I think
our standard now is fourth grade reading level, trying to get it down at that
level get it to that level. And um there's been different trainings that
have been offered that our communications team has gone through
um and some of our other staff as well. So
it's definitely something that's been a a focus for us and
» So, you. that's why I just needed to hear. Thank you.
» Yeah. Yeah, of course. >> You got it, too.
» [laughter]
[cough and clears throat]
» Not seeing anything here, either.
Um so, what we'll do is um you all had approved extending our strategic plan to
FY 27. As you can see, some of the things we weren't able to accomplish,
some of the things we'll want to carry over to um the current fiscal year,
either things that we're already doing because we're already into the new
fiscal year. Um but also, we'll um work to um
keep trying to make progress on the initiatives that we weren't able to
accomplish, and we'll come back to you all and provide a
end of strategic plan update cuz that'll be our fourth and final year of this
current iteration's plan. Um but uh yeah, we're in our fourth fourth year of
our plan. Um so, that's exciting news, and appreciate all the support that has
been provided in supporting this this work.
So, with that, I will turn it over to our next planning process and uh sharing
an update on our FY 28 through 30 uh planning process.
Uh Cheryl will be joining me um in a few slides to to talk about the engagement
side of the house. Um but it's it's something that we've been um working on
for the past few months already. Um and so, we're excited to share what
we've been up to and get your feedback um cuz it's it's it's been really
exciting getting to work on it. You talking to the team about it, I'm so
excited to share that with you tonight.
All right. So, I know you all have been involved in our current strategic plan
out for a few years, but just wanted to revisit kind of why
um we do a strategic plan and also for
those who may be watching online to just share a little bit about the purpose of
having the strategic plan. Um this having a strategic plan really
helps establish um a clear direction for the next 3
years. So, it provides that roadmap for where we want to go and how we intend to
get there. And so, it lays all those things out in to a clear plan. It helps
us to align the services that we provide, the resources that we have and
how we each choose to expend those resources and align those operations to
help us achieve those overarching goals that you
all set. And really
the strategic plan is helps us be responsive to what the community and the
organ- the organizational needs are. And so, it's really rooted in listening to
our our internal partner uh stakeholders, our external ones as well.
And so, we'll go through a bit about who will be involved or who we see as being
involved as part of the process, but really rooted in listening to help us
identify those needs. And then it helps us be improve our
transparency, establish kind of what the performance is that we're trying to
achieve, and helps us be accountable by coming back and sharing the progress
that we've made in in terms of the plan that has been established.
So, this is what we see as the strategic plan structure. At the top, you see the
vision, mission, and values. Um
uh and then the focus area below that. Um, so that is really the overarching
kind of direction that we see
isn't um through the focus area. The objectives
share that desired outcome. The smart goals that um darker blue is a
new component that we see for this strategic plan. Our current one kind of
goes from objective to initiative. But we want to add a
uh the goal section which really helps set that specific um
target or measure that we're trying to that allows us to connect the objective
to the initiative. >> I thought we've been doing that all
along because we can't do anything without a smart goal. It just you can't
do it. You can't manage to it. >> So, we we've had the objective um which
is kind of the higher level order and then it jumps to initiative. So, we
haven't had that intermediary one um up until this point.
» Okay, cuz I didn't know that when we look at things we always were looking at
what by when, how we
you know, always done those smart goals front framework. Just without a smart
goal to there's nothing to manage against.
» So, that is that'll hopefully be an improvement for this time around. Um I
know the first round, you know, it was our first time going through the
process. We were still kind of getting our feet wet into the strategic
planning. So, we're seeing this as kind of an evolution, a way of making kind of
getting at that at that point. Um and so then it'll go down to the initiative
which are those specific action items that we always provide those updates on
every quarter.
Um so, as far as who we see as being part of the process, we see it as a
really robust um you know, engagement approach. So, we'll have our internal
groups, which are consists of our internal core team.
And then, I'll get into in the next slide kind of what the different groups
for the internal ones will do. But, and then the steering committee,
which is a larger group that
provides more higher-level direction to the core team. Our focus area of work
groups, and you all as our elected officials kind of rounding out that
internal group to help us develop the plan.
Then, we'll want to definitely engage our external groups, the community.
Cheryl will talk a bit more about those pieces to engage our external partners,
the nonprofit business community, as well as other partners that we work
with.
So, just specifically looking at at our internal group,
our core team consists of myself, the budget team, and communications.
We've had about seven meetings so far to really start the planning process.
What this group does is really providing that project leadership, ensuring that
we're staying on our timelines, meeting our
goals, producing the drafts of things, which then goes to the steering
committee, which is our ops team, our operations
team, which is kind of a cross-departmental
group of key leaders within our organization. And so, what they're doing
is providing us that high-level guidance, making sure that we're staying
on the path that we need to, reviewing some of those major
deliverables, ensuring that there is alignment across
all of our departments because it consists of representatives from all of
our departments, and then really being champions for engagement and
helping us guide us through the process. And then finally, we have our focus area
work group. So these are the subject matter experts that will be engaging
that will be um later uh
early next calendar year to really do the job of developing the um
the draft plan. And so collecting the taking the feedback that has been shared
by those stakeholders and going through and um refining
the objectives and the initiatives, the smart goals um that will then come
together to form the draft plan.
So this is our planning timeline. It consists of eight different phases. Um
we've already we're already into phase two and almost done with it. So yeah,
we've done we've accomplished a lot in the last
couple months um which is really exciting.
We've formed our our teams, um created our draft plan scope, and outreach plan.
And so um next we'll be moving into the data collection piece where we're where
we're engaging with the community and the businesses and nonprofits.
And um we'll then in November to December come
back to the to you all um at a at a work session.
So that's one of the things that we'll send out letters to just ensure that
we'll have um you'll be able to have quorum at the
November work session. Um so that's when we are hoping to have our vision,
mission, and values discussion to really reaffirm either what we have or um kind
of discuss whether uh you all want to kind of
» [clears throat] >> update or refine what we have as our
vision, mission, and values for our kind of plan.
And um by then we should have the feedback that we've received from
everyone so we'll we'll be be to share that information with you all at that
time to help you kind of digest that and and determine if if we need to
refine it further. And then in January, February, we'll
then get into the goal setting. So, that's when the
um internal focus area work groups will be meeting to establish the fill out the
focus area um kind of work plans.
And then coming up with a draft strategic plan in the March to April
time frame. And then we'll want to make sure that
once we have that draft plan to go back and do some more engagement to ensure
that we got it correct, feel like people see if people [clears throat] have any
additional insight or comments, feedback to share. And then um looking to
hopefully have an adoption of the next plan at the June um regular meeting to
coincide with budget adoption. And so,
» Just a couple years ago, and this was before I was on the board, when
um Margaret can be it was like 100 people
that there to collect community ideas. I was
actually part of that, but I thought it was a really cool exercise
cuz it was easily 100 people in one room from across the community
um to that regenerating ideas and priorities
before the plan was put together. And so, the plan ref-
when it went to the community in that point where here's a plan, here's your
feedback.
It was enriched by the work that was done
by getting that feedback up front. Have we considered doing something similar?
Are we getting it in other ways? And yeah, are we getting that broad-based
community feedback before the plan is put together? Yeah. So, it's not a case
of commenting
on what's not being relaxed reactive but more proactive.
» Right, definitely. I That's a great question. So, what um
And I know Cheryl will talk a little bit about it in the next slides, but um with
the community survey that'll um it was kind of great timing that we
ended up delaying that after Chantal um to this year because then that made us
think, well, like that is a great way to capture
um a representative sample or a representative group of the Hillsborough
community. We're still at the threshold where we
can send it to every household in Hillsborough, which is great cuz a lot
of times So, as you get larger, you have to move
to a sample size as opposed to every single person getting it. So, we are
still in that threshold um where we could still send it out to everyone. And
so, everyone will have an opportunity to share their um thoughts and
perspectives. And so, the way the quest the um the strategic plan uh section of
the survey was framed was really getting a sense
for um
uh how getting asking how we're doing in
terms of meeting the objectives from our current plan um to see like are those
things that are still important to people? Are there other things that
maybe we didn't capture the first time that we really should be thinking about
that are within our scope and um >> But, that's already pre You're already
primed people to react to what you you've set the boundaries for.
So, there unless someone's got a um a super burning beef or a super
burning passion, they're not [clears throat] likely to to
stray outside the bounds of what we've already set.
» Mhm. >> And that's kind of the beauty of some of
these more pre-fi I don't know if you call it a
charrette, I don't know if what, but
generating input that's not
already rebound by what we think and mining what the community thinks.
» Yes, but go ahead. >> Well, I was just going to say, I mean
» [clears throat] >> I kind of think that
we have several years of benchmark
community surveys of where how people feel about especially the
services and initiatives that we have and we're about to do another one
that I think kind of
I don't want to say gives us to what you're talking about.
» It's still >> But it's still a huge amount of data
that would probably be a lot more um
indicative than you know, an in-person
» It is good data, but it's still bound and to a certain extent self-referential
cuz we ask the same questions over and over again.
So, all it is is repeating the same boundaries.
So, you don't unless you've got a burning beef or a burning passion
cuz it's how our brains work. You react against within those boundaries.
Um it's a lot different when you get people of different thing you've never
you know, I won't say they never met although in my experience that there
were a lot of people that I never met. And they start riffing off of one
another. It's just an enriched ideation
and you get more of a community feel than
an echo chamber or a little bit broader. And we've got the op you know, while
we're still early enough in the process think about how do we really get more
instead of being self-referential or the same questions, which elicits the same
seminar. But we we don't know what we're missing
by asking the same questions over and over again. You get really good
benchmarks, but we
It is something for >> I will take it. I think Cheryl's
interested in it. You say something to me because
» No, I just want to I want to clarify that in addition to the benchmark
and the community survey questions that pretty much stay the same from time to
time so that we compare them whether they're benchmarks or not. We've added
additional strategic plan focused questions to this
community survey and some of them are open-ended questions to get at new ideas
to invite people to share new ideas and what what's on their mind, what are they
thinking about, what do they think Hillsborough needs in that mid I think
we asked it for the mid-range term. So it's it's not just the same questions
over and over again. Um I love in-person events too. I'm not
speaking at this event. I love in-person events too.
Um actually it's not that much of That's I
don't think it is that much of a pain. We can pretty much
use the space or um borrow the county's larger space pretty easily. Um but but
what do you do when then um what do you do with the information
when like a whole group of people from one area come because they're like,
"Wow, if we go today, they're going to build a sidewalk in our [clears throat]
It's not necessarily in my ex- I'm not saying we shouldn't do them. I
think we we should do more in-person, but what you gather from there from an
in-person open ideas meeting might not be
representative of the of the town as a whole. You kind of get a group that will
come out with their >> That's where pretty
» their excitement about something. >> I I hear what you're saying, but that's
where it's very skilled room partial invited and partial open-ended.
So, you you you're
you're the other part of it is it's structured you know to a certain extent
it's structured at least have a voice in different areas.
You know, on top of just you know, open and walk in because
you're right people it's the same thing a big beef or hot passion.
Um in terms of of
people that get engaged. But you do get
you when it's framed as ideation and framed cuz and I'm I'm pulling back the
memories of whatever brought in uh
there were certain topics and certain questions still fairly open-ended and
there was no you know, the the floor if you will is
this does not mean your idea is going to be a you know, we have budget, we have
time. What this does mean is that we do want
to take the pulse out of this and elicit
what we don't know, we don't know. And
I think we got I mean what I remember coming out was every idea of course not.
But my goodness, I I remember talking to Margaret and just what came out was so
much more enriched. >> It seems like those are really good
experiences. >> It really was.
And the mixture of groups cuz it wasn't the same old
Yeah, I mean yes, there were certain it's like the same people you see, but
there was a lot of people that you know, that was the first probably
one of the first events I've ever ever participated in.
I I think I was personally volunteer told as much as I was volunteering.
» Thanks for sharing that experience. I'll let you finish up your slides.
And I and I know Sheryl will also get into a little bit more about like what
we see at what we're seeing as an engagement strategy.
So hopefully as we get into the more of the weeds and details that that'll
[clears throat] help paint the picture a little bit clearer.
Um Anything else on the timeline?
So also just wanted to say that a lot of times towns will hire consultants to
guide them through this process. We reached out to
um uh you know
or um
an organization to help us and the it ended up coming back with a really
high budget amount. So that's when we decided like I think we can do this
again internally. We can kind of go through this process. It'll take about a
year a little over a year to do it. And so that's where this
came from and just want to acknowledge the the hard work our staff has been
putting into that cuz it has been more work um
on staff to do. I do think the product the end product will be better cuz a lot
of times when we have found that when we work with consultants it ends up being
still a lot of work for us kind of redoing things to make it kind of
specific to Hillsboro. But
just wanted to shout out our staff who has
already been plugged into this our our ops team and our core team. So it's
really been a group effort and it's been exciting going through it.
So as far as what we see success looking like, we want it to be community driven.
We want it to be rooted in that listening
and uh engaging with our partners. We want it to be data informed
through the data that we collect as part of our
feedback gathering process as far as like assessing our existing services
that we provide and so just doing that kind of work to
get to collect the data to help develop the plan.
Again, like the last iteration, we want it to be realistic and actionable. So
it's things that we feel like we can do rather than things that we just hope we
can do. So really making sure that it's it's
things that are within our scope to be able to do as local governments and that
we feel like given our level of resources and scale that we can
accomplish. And then also making sure that it's
clear and part of that is going back to that plain language that people
understand what it's saying, that they resonates for people, it's measurable
and really focus so that we can make sure that we're staying on track and
that it's aligned across our departments and looking at that organization-wide
perspective and so involving those your cross-departmental groups will be
really helpful to achieving that. >> [clears throat]
» So with that, I will turn it over to Cheryl to talk through some more of the
engagement piece.
» So good evening everyone. As as you know, we already started that engagement
conversation. I'm going through our engagement efforts
both what we've already started and what we have planned.
» [clears throat] >> We will soon start to gather feedback
through surveys as Jen said. In addition to the community survey which has
additional strategic plan questions this year.
We also have a survey with questions tailored for our local business owners
and for our local nonprofits. And [clears throat] we will be sending
those out um but at the end of the month and collecting collecting them them
through September. Um, as Jen said, our community survey is
still a great vehicle for reaching all households because it isn't just sent to
a sampling of our households. It's It's wonderful that we still meet that
threshold for going to everyone. Um, I think we find often people need to
hear about something in more than one way. So,
even though you can take it online, getting that physical copy and um
hearing about it through our newsletter, through bill inserts, uh through
in-person conversations, maybe will um
validate what they get in their mailbox. They They could feel like
uh like this really is from the town and and that they should take the time to
fill it out as we hope that many people will.
In In addition to the surveys, we also um town staff plan to
conduct uh partner interviews with our partners
in Orange County departments and divisions with whom we share similar
interests. And um we are leading focus groups as
needed um in the fall. >> Jared, quick question. Do Do we have any
idea like the percentage of completed community surveys that we get back on
average? >> So, we it stays open. Uh that would be
that would be like um did you say like 50%? That would be
would be amazing. >> Yeah.
» Uh we get Um it's it's a has to be a statistically
valid number which I think for us is about 450.
» Yeah, yeah, it's about 400 to meet the 95%
confidence level um and we send it to almost 5,000 households.
» Which usually if you get more than a 2% or something like that, that's it's
astounding. >> When we go to
when the communications team goes to conferences and we talk about community
surveys, we we blow at the others away with our
» [laughter] >> with our results. We have a very
responsive community. >> And I will say [clears throat] I think
it was when we were on when you and I were on SWAG for example and there was a
certain solid waste survey and just from I mean it it's not just the surveys we
sent out, but they we punched way above our weight relative
to even Chapel Hill. We had not just statistically more respondents as a
percentage, but like like 50% of their responses were from
Hillsborough which which was not
you know, was kind of putting Chapel Hill part of the shame. Um because the
engagement wasn't there. So we just have a lot of people die in.
» Yes. >> Yeah.
» Yeah, I do have one question and that is on the nonprofit surveys and we don't
have to go [clears throat] through like a list, but it might be helpful to share
the word any nonprofits just in case that you're going to send it out to just
in case there's someone missing or maybe the contact information's out of date
cuz they turn over pretty quickly. >> That's a great idea.
» Yeah, we would be happy to do that. We We started by creating our own list and
then JCC pulled up the state's registry of nonprofits in Hillsborough and then
we we also checked in with Scott to see what the chamber's list is.
But the more eyes on the list the better. We don't want to leave anyone
out and we do plan to send not just put it out there on the web or on social on
social media, but to individually invite each non-profit because we would like
one collective response per non-profit. We'd like for them to collaborate and
give us back one answer. Uh so that we have
so that each one has equal weight. The same same with businesses. So we don't
have like eight responses from one business and one response from another,
but but have them think about it internally and get back to us.
And we're [clears throat] happy to share those with you.
» What is the basis for the surveys in terms of town residents, utility
customers, businesses, just in the town limits?
» So for the for the resident survey, it is
um for for town residents. Our community survey only goes to town residents.
And we because we do we do advertise it with the water bill and we clarify in
there that this one is for the town residents.
» Um I'm not sure if I missed it or not, but I saw Catherine sent us the
community survey. Did we get a copy of the non-profit survey?
» [clears throat] >> Perhaps not yet. I know we we're we are
we have it nearly finished. We need a like a new kind of first question to
kick it off and then we can share it in our next update.
Thank you guys. And And we can share it with you and
and along with the list so that you can give us feedback if we're missing
anyone. >> Yeah. Are the businesses brick and
mortar businesses? Are they whoever's got a registered shingle?
What's what constitutes a Hillsborough business?
» Um the ones we can find because there isn't like an in-town business license
any longer. We don't have a master list of businesses, but we definitely
want to invite all of the ones that we know of and have contact information for
and >> [clears throat]
» and this includes our commercial real estate owners as well.
Like anyone um
with any type of business in the hospital. [clears throat]
» Yeah. And it's it is challenging because there is not a a master list.
» But that's that's why I I know that there's other communities in North
Carolina talked about they don't do a privilege license, but they do do a
business fee and that's how they know what businesses are in town. And it's
nominal, like 5 10 bucks. But it's a fee and that's how come they
can do the demographics, they know who's who, they know what's what. Um
I wish we did something like that because unless you're going to the
Secretary of State and doing guesswork of what has brick and mortar and what
doesn't, it's going to be the same old same old.
» Well, we also get information from the home-based um
occupations because or home-based businesses because they do not need
a license, so we get that information, too.
» But that's it's a different kind of population of home-based versus
brick and mortar versus internet business. I mean, there's some
differences there and I I get concerned of
who we're missing. >> [clears throat]
» And I'd like to make sure because their voices count, too.
» We We agree. It It is a challenge that we're trying to
work our way through. Going to the next slide.
Survey outreach. We've already talked a bit about how we're getting word out. We
had a robust conversation at the July Ops Team meeting, keeping in mind that
the Operations Team is the strategic plan steering committee. Uh
» [clears throat] >> we asked for their we came to them with
a um with our list of nonprofits and our
starter list of nonprofits and our ideas for how we we would contact businesses
and our ways of reaching people and um the team certainly added to it with lots
of ideas. We have um already begun outreach. We have printed uh
business-sized cards with a QR code that goes to our I don't have any with me
tonight because um we brought them to uh Walk Fairview on Saturday and JC took
them home and I I think we both forgot he was taking a
couple of days off. So they're probably in his car until Wednesday morning when
he comes back. But we uh he handed them out in the three communities that had
National Night Out events last Tuesday and at Walk Fairview Day
» [clears throat] >> um
just to go ahead because as again I think it helps for residents at least to
get that reassurance uh that we are really surveying them and we really want
their response. In addition you are going to see yard signs around town with
QR codes um and we will be at community events
this um in the early fall. Um we will be creating a community a very short
community-focused video and we will have lots of social media posts and reach out
to our community contacts. Um as we do have quite a few community contacts for
our for our town to reach We've been trying to collect one for every street
and town. We're not quite there yet but we do have um
quite a list. >> Cheryl, I did see your request.
» For the video? Thank you.
Thank you very much. >> And
can you um
go back to the You said the ops team is the steering committee for
» the strategic plan development. >> Could I make a suggestion?
I was sorry part of that. I know it's the Ops team, but I think it would be
good if the mayor or mayor pro tem were part of that steering committee.
Um just to represent us and give an elected
perspective on anything that needs [clears throat]
feedback on or or whatnot. >> I'll talk to Eric about that later.
» Just that as a work group or as needed. Just
» Thank you for that suggestion. Thank you.
» Don't want to create more work for y'all, but
» And I have one more slide and the next part is engaging with you all.
Appropriate suggestion at that moment. Um
so Oh, I skipped a slide. How do I go back on this slide?
Back line. Communicating with with our board.
Um We plan to set those the strategic plan
core team, of which I'm a part and of course Jen is a part, plans to send you
a monthly update. Most often it will probably come from Jen. And um
we also plan to come back to you several times throughout the process. Um and we
can certainly talk about more ways to engage with you in the process as well.
And now I believe I turn it over to you, Jen. I forgot.
» So those monthly emails will really be highlighting what we did the previous
month and then kind of what's to come so that you can stay plugged into where
we've been and where we're going and you can share any feedback that that you
have. Um so just wanted to um
kind of open it up for feedback, but first really thinking through um getting
some if you have thoughts on what would make this process successful for you
um in terms of the strategic plan development.
» Thank you, Jen. Um appreciate the presentation, the very
thoughtful approach, um, as always. And I think that, you know, the results, the
high scores from our previous surveys, bear that out that we we perform very
well and I think we improve year over year
» [clears throat] >> in how we survey and the results we get.
So, so thank you in advance for all the work that you're you're doing.
» [clears throat] >> Thank you.
» I don't have any more questions. Megan, do you have any questions?
» Um, no, I'm good. Not at this time. >> Mr. Brock?
» I don't have any questions, um, but again, thank you for all all the work
you've done so far in this and I'm excited to, uh,
to see the the progress and Mr. Brock.
» Mhm. >> Okay.
» Yeah. >> Um,
I have no questions, um, like since folks hit the first question,
which is just like, I know what would [clears throat] make this successful, I
think that, I know the two markers I'm going to be looking at is
um, just having that good community, uh, um, engagement and feedback and
participation, I think would be [clears throat] a marker of success
because we can say with some certainty that the communities have been asked,
[clears throat] they've been involved, they're,
uh, we we know how they feel and and um, what's important to them. Um, but I
think it's some the other marker of success, I think it's something that you
kind of, um, [clears throat] referred to earlier, which is,
um, you know, having these robust goals, which are really important and,
you know, core concepts and whatnot, but that the initiatives that bolster those
are, you know, that we're setting ourselves
up for success, that the strategic plan isn't so easy that we tick all those
boxes and we say, oh, we we we did everything we set out to do, but it
isn't so hard that things aren't attainable in some of
those uh,
goals and and initiatives might be
reach initiatives like it they'll push us beyond maybe what we're comfortable
with or or
you know, they they definitely might require new skills or or something but
that they're still attainable. They're still
realistic because I think that's also important
for us to be able to go back to the community and say hey, we had these
these really substantial reach goals that we we met.
Maybe they couldn't have occurred in the right order or the timeline we
envisioned but they were still, you know, within the realm of possibility.
» Yeah, I think that's that's really helpful and totally agree. Um
ensuring that it's challenging but also attainable and that we have those
resources in place to make sure that we can accomplish them.
» Thank you Kathleen. >> I have no questions.
» Well, thank you Jim. Thank you Sharon. >> Thank you. We'll look for our next
update and we'll also send you the list of
nonprofits as well as those surveys but thank you and if you have any other
feedback or thoughts definitely feel free to email us at any time.
» Awesome. >> Thank you. Thanks.
» On to item B, hot topics for the work session on August 24th. Yeah, code
enforcement, demolition ordinances and housing
choice. Eric, is there anything else you guys want to talk
about? I think that's it.
» Yeah. >> And we're on to number seven, updates
starting with board members. Matt, would you like to go first?
» Um yeah, I'll go first. So, of course it's
we haven't been here since June so I feel like a lot has happened. Um,
I will say first kudos to Matt and our town staff for the America 250
um event. I think that it was a a big success, but I also know it was very
logistically challenging and other things.
Um, but you know, the fact that I had people ask me if this is going to be an
annual event. I think speaks volumes to what people
got out of it. Um, but it was great to see the community um come together.
And then um the other update that I think is perhaps most
relevant cuz most of my boards also take off the the summer um as I'm sure some
of y'alls um do as well. Um, is that
a few months ago we had some really good conversations with Royal Hillsborough,
Northern Northern Ireland um about ways to do some cultural exchanges and some
things. Um, and uh their national government gives them a lot more money
to do that kind of thing. Um, but um they did reach out last month and
Shannon was able to help get a letter of support and I work reached out to the
alliance as well as the visitors bureau um for a letter of support for a US
State Department grant that they're applying for um that would help um
solidify some of these uh tourist and cultural ties.
And uh they asked if uh we would be going on there's apparently some sort of
North Carolina Department of Commerce trip in September
uh to to that region of Northern Ireland.
Um, and we were like, we don't know anything
about that. We don't have budget to uh to to book tickets. Um, especially um
with how our budget looked um for this fiscal year, but it was it's
it's kind of great to be able to make that linkage and
you know, they have different components
of the community over there have been looking at our Hillsboro in connection
into America 250, but then also taking it that step further than that, which I
think if it all comes together will be really good, but
they've been wanting a specific connection with us
compared to the other Hillsboros in the US because there's not many that have a
direct linkage. And so it was really cool to to be able
to help >> [clears throat]
» push that forward and we'll see how their grant is evaluated
by the State Department and hopefully there'll be
some really cool things that come out of that relationship.
» You know, they used to have funding for sister cities and I would think that
would be a perfect opportunity for sister city.
» Yeah, Scott has some experience with sister
cities from his time in Wilmington that he provided some really good feedback
to the mayor and myself about how to approach that to make it successful cuz
I think there were some ways in which communities are very
excited for that, but then they don't have like the appropriate charter and
agreements community agreements to make it really work. And so
I thought he was going to be the wet blanket brigade on that cuz I also
suggested sister cities, but you know, one of the things he he
really harped harkened back to was that experience and
just really having a solid plan and and sufficient buy-in to make it work. I
used to be involved with sister city when I lived in Iowa and I mean it was
it was an amazing opportunity for community community connections.
» And we have a really good resource on that point.
The former board chair of Sister Cities International lives in Trump. And
[clears throat]
so we have a really good resource to to make that work if it
» I hope so cuz I've always felt we should have the sister cities it's
I missed that part that I haven't been involved in and
I think this is Roseburg's got such rich history
and diversity of our community. I mean we're we're
we can put on a good >> And one of the proposals in the grant is
for us to host a delegation from Roseburg of an island
sometime in the next 12 to 18 months if it gets approved.
» There's there's a lot going on. So I sent around
NLC so today was data center. They didn't actually govern the whole floor
and that's what we already talked about and actually what Mike Turner shared was
head shoulders more
but it was useful. Tomorrow is housing. I sent out for a third one that now I'm
like I didn't write take my notes but I sent you guys about that.
or the partnership Nofo released court stepped in Nofo is
stopped. So
the saga continues there. Um
and then um
Yeah, we had no meetings for uh
Central Pines
October is the next national board meeting and that will be in
California. So, I'll be out looks like the
I I think it's going to end up being
our workshop. I can't I have to might end up being between I have to remember
I'm I'm blanking out on these dates. The chamber's gala if you haven't seen
September 12th. Those tickets are out. Unfortunately,
that was the weekend they only weekend I could get my Land of Oz tickets. So, I'd
already gotten my Land of Oz. So, three weekends a year you can go to Land
of Oz. Uh
but that's that's about all I got right now. I did I
did get to do National Night Out. I was not able to do Fairview but Fairview
knew was out there at the time.
That's it. >> Thank you.
Um
So, my two assignments did not meet since we last spoke in June.
But I've had quite the the list of activities since then.
And I guess the the main ones to mention are the kind of
the prep work lead up to the July 4th event and then
what was happening and others toward that event. So, for
those who are hitting who are hitting who are flying Machu Picchu and you were
unable to to be here. It was a great event and
yeah, and I'm reminded how hot it is. It's like what Oh my gosh.
That was I read somewhere it was like for in your Matt's email that it was
like 102.5 degrees. >> I don't know what it was but it was
bloody hot. >> [laughter]
» I don't know why we why we don't do July 4th.
That was a great one time I could have even found it in like
October. >> Yeah.
» Then you get snow storms. >> [laughter]
» Um I had a quite a few ribbon cuttings and
other ceremonial duties um uh to and I won't go there.
Wish to the towns of um but more recently uh attended the Fairview
meeting Kathleen uh on
um last week on the 3rd um and the Eno River reopening. For those of you who
were able to make that, that was amazing. My face hurt from just smiling
so much for 2 hours. It was That was amazing.
Um and then of course the wall Fairview day which was last Saturday was very
good. And I thought there was a much larger
turnout than usual there and the weather was perfect. So that was That was nice.
Um And I'll just add on to um Matt's
comments about the Royal Hillsborough um thing. Um yeah, we've had
several conversations uh with them and um if anybody has any questions, Shannon
is [clears throat] running point on that so that we're all communicating with one
person and then hopefully they will assign one person and then communication
will you know be efficient that way. Um and
I'm planning to um speak in the near future with Counselor Brian Bigginson
who serves as the mayor of the larger governmental body. Royal Hillsborough is
a small part of that but um so I look forward to discussing my side
to him. Have a conversation. That's all I have.
» Okay. Okay. Well, since uh our last meeting um
I have not really been in Hillsborough or North Carolina. This month.
Not a lot of update on that. But
» I said I know the feeling. >> Yeah.
» I'm on the road a lot. >> So not many updates in regards to my
assignments. Um The one event that um I have been
I'm hoping to bring together from the committee is the
Hillsborough Chamber is putting together the impact nonprofit impact study or
summit and those of you connected with nonprofits, it's a day that there will
be five different sessions for to help
nonprofits with fundraising, grants, board management, budgeting, working on
their bylaws and also a keynote speaker talking about storytelling
and how to improve all the nonprofits. >> Are you working with ESC nonprofits or
ESC's board school I call it board school but ESC does
every year >> Yeah.
» Executive Service Corps. >> Yes. Yes. I was going to say I like the
acronym sounded familiar but yes. >> Cuz I have
for for their board school I have their materials.
» So we actually have one of the speakers was on their
board and one of them since he's rolled off their board he's
one of their advisors also. So he's doing our
He's doing our policies and board management.
» Who is it? >> Uh Steve Spokan.
» Okay, he actually when I was went through that he was
he was involved in that. Yeah, that's like three years ago.
» And when is the event? >> Uh so the event is September 30th. It is
9:00 till 3:00 and it's at the Witted building. Um the early bird ticketing is
now until the 15th of September. >> And what is this for what?
» Um this it's the nonprofit nonprofit impact summit that the Hillsborough
Chamber is putting together. So
you know, just a a day where a lot of nonprofits might be starting up or they
even have been around for a while there's
probably something they could get from the
the summit. Just wanted to get that information out
to everybody. >> Yes and
I know >> [clears throat]
» I sent that to both the alliance and for well.
» Yeah. >> And I know for well for sure is going to
participate. So, and they have almost all this stuff.
» Yeah, there was like we actually have reached out to the for well to see if
one of the people the
board members would be a speaker, but was not able to. But but yeah, so and
then Amanda Boyd is also on this committee putting this together. So,
yeah. So, yeah. It should be a but it's coming
together as a big event I believe. >> Hopefully.
» Yeah, it's good. The first time though too, so.
» If boards don't get to it used to be and I don't know if Blue Cross Blue Shield
still funds it, but ESCs it's it's um six sessions for executive directors and
board members. They they encourage one of each. It ends at
the you know, put like a hundred couple hundred bucks up front, but you can get
a I think you turn it off, but it's well worth it. It's all on rules of
meetings with their boards and board 101.
» Yeah, exactly. And it was an organization that I had not
known much about before starting to plan this and it really does seem like a good
resource that and then having Steve be one of the speakers
» He's really good. >> he can hopefully you know, help people
find other avenues of education after this event.
» Yeah, I'm sure it's like nothing C center and
nonprofit. >> Yeah.
» Duke's got a good one. >> Yeah, Duke one closed.
» Did Duke close? >> Yes, yeah, it's done. Yeah, and then
they're the visitor. Yeah, yeah, if you hadn't started
then you weren't able to get any more classes and if you had started they
wanted you done by January or of this year.
» And then there's one other besides Lucy Sermon. I can't remember what it is.
But I've been sharing the from the ESC I permission to share, so I've been
sharing their materials for the last several years.
» Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I'm excited about that that presentation.
Um and then also I'll be I signed up also for the
Road to Housing. That's uh Saturday at 12:00.
» I hope it's good. No, that's all I got.
» Awesome. >> Brooke.
» Um I don't have a whole lot. Um I would like to again thank Matt and all the
staff from the town of Hillsborough that provided planning and staffing for the
250 event was a It was a great event. Um it was nice to see the
the diversity of of um of events and and activities um and to have a a whole day
event here. Um the feedback that I've gotten from
people that attended was was all all very positive and and I know it was it
was coordinated well, planned well, and um other than the heat it was a
fantastic event. So and I'm telling them now what that's those are one-time
one-and-done event and maybe not 250 years, but
um not being named over that. And I'm happy to give you your work. Um
And I don't know if we have Are we And I don't know if we want to, but I
was thinking possibly if we wanted to recognize
um the Greg and and Mayor Tom for for their
work on that, if that's something that >> And Katie.
» It has been contemplated. >> Yeah.
» Um And we can talk more about it or
whatever too, but um I I think it would be good to just let them know how much
we we appreciate them taking that on and pulling it off and
that was successful from from our observation.
Um >> I did attend the the Walk for Fearless
event last weekend. It was great event. Um,
and it was just good to good to hear some of the, you know, the
the projects and and the visions that uh that the interns are working on.
Um, I definitely think that we can um
help them kind of reach some of their um some of their goals. Um, and some of it
I think and specifically I'm talking about um
their like soccer goal thing with Orange County. It sounds like it's it's just
more of a communication thing that just kind of could be worked out um with
they're talking to the right people in the county. Um, but I I encourage
um them to to reach out to talk more about that.
Um, yeah, and that's all I got. >> I'm wondering on that if that might be
something actually as a board that we might be
able to with the with the county board
I know informal conversations receptions then
if they >> Mhm.
» Um
it's just different priorities at the county level than our level, but I'm
wondering if there's some way that we as a board maybe as a board
can take an official stand to support the community desires
with the county board because this just doesn't seem to be
So, um
» Chair Hamilton was there. Was actually and two commissioners were there. So,
and I asked kind of the larger picture
of Kevin Griffith about funding up to at least I think five potential funding
grant funds. So, I think those need to play out
maybe the rest of this year but early next year but might make sense to figure
out who is what's their viability going forward because as we all know that
Burke is one of the most awesome things about Hillsborough. And they we picked
up the all the funding this this current year and then most of them were having
last year and there quite a few people involved in Fairview Watch program.
Burke County residents they're not 10 friends and they're being nice to Burke
County to pick up a share of that because I they obviously see the same
value that that we do and that's why they participate.
» Well, and that county picked up when Fairview initiated the
the summer interns. And they turned that into a county
program. So, that was several years ago.
» And there could be speaking of there could be in-kind
contributions they're already making. >> Uh-huh.
» They're they're just not visible to us but
» But I I do know that in the conversations I had specifically about
soccer over pickleball and tennis.
And there hadn't at that at that time and
the last one was probably about five months ago maybe six months five
months it was not a there was not a consensus support
for soccer. So, that's why I'm thinking that maybe
we keep an eye on it as a board that we stand behind with Fairview community and
what they're asking. >> I will be speaking to the Fairview
community watch probably in October maybe December
and that'll be one of the main points that I'm
going to discuss with them as to be transparent about where we are with the
funding and to you know, leave no stone unturned.
» Well, even if funding but beyond funding it's just for county money and county is
it's part of the plan, too. >> I include the county strategy with
this body may want to do.
Right, anything else? Any more updates, Eric?
» No. >> No.
» Okay. Um I will entertain a motion to go into
closed session um as authorized by the North Carolina
General Assembly to consult the town attorney to preserve
» I'll make that motion. >> Thank you.
Is there a second? >> Yes.
» Seconded by Matt, thank you. I'm all in favor.
» Aye. >> Any opposed? We'll take maybe 5 minutes
and then we'll do the closed session. >> Figure of one half to
ensure the quorum. >> We have a quorum. Everybody's okay.