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The hill on board the order. Please

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stand for the pledge of allegiance.

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» I pledge allegiance to the flag of the

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United States of America and to the

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republic for which it stands. One nation

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under God, indivisible, with liberty

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[clears throat] and justice for all.

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» Okay. Thank you all very much. I'm going

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to uh ask that the clerk do please do a

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roll call. And I want to let the public

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know that as per uh the law that was

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passed about extraordinary circumstances

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circumstances video conferencing, I did

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have two town council members uh contact

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me in writing within the allotted time

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frame with uh specific reasons falling

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under the extraordinary circumstances

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video conferencing uh law. So uh would

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you please do the roll call?

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» Uh council member Hernandez

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» Present.

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Council member uh Ziggler

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» Here.

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» Supervisor

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» Here.

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» Uh Council Member Corano Nordenstrom

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» Here.

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» Uh Council Member uh Fel.

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» Oh, you muted.

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» He muted. Uh but he said here.

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» He did say shake hand.

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» There you go.

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» Got it.

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» Thank you. And thank you all for

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being here tonight. Um uh first is our

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public comment. Uh would we have 10

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minutes aotted? Would any member of the

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» Oh, and Marcy Ella and Michael Miller.

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» Thank you. Um, first of all, I would

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like to recommend that we reinstitute

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the three minutes or 10 minutes of

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public comment at the end of the meeting

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just because it's a little easier than

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if there's something to comment on with

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the time after the meeting because

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otherwise I'm making comments now

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» On hypothetical what might be said,

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do with roads, which is obviously my

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favorite topic. Um, and I just feel like

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the presentation from um Richard Briggs

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was was great, but I feel like we need

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more detail because I think this storm

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that happened July 28th through the 30th

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is really pretty extreme and I don't

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think this really captures all of the

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work that the highway department A had

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to do. Um, but it's also gives us an

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opportunity to provide a little bit more

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detail. So there's going to be

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institutional knowledge as more of these

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extreme ring happen. So my suggestion

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preamble at least to mention this is in

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response to the July 28th 30th

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than the closing of Route 22. So, I just

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other comments, and again, I do not want

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to create more work for Richard, so

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maybe it can go to somebody else, is

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that the damage between severe and

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pheasant lean had definitely severe

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damage compared to claw. I would put

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those in two different categories if it

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were me trying to create a rating system

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now and for the future. But Richard, you

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might have ideas and I don't know if

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your team takes photographs just to

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capture things so we can see. And again,

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it's 10 years down the road. We're going

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to have different people here. How are

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past, what worked, etc. Plus, this might

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be a good opportunity to start start

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capturing the costs because these

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extreme weather events are going to only

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happen more frequently. unfortunately

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and continue to cost the town money. So,

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those are my comments. Thank you.

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» Thank you. Thank you for your comments.

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You got your seven. You see about seven.

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public um comment to close and move on.

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minutes. Uh, for the sake of efficiency,

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can I get a motion to approve the

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minutes from July 21st uh the July 21st

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public hearing and the July 29th special

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meeting? Can I get a motion, please?

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» Thank you. We got a second. Uh, Bart,

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you separate the motions.

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» Okay. All right. Yeah, that's true. All

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right. So, um I'm going to withdraw that

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motion. Can I get a motion to approve

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the minutes on July 21st?

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under the highway super uh attendance

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report um that I think is

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um maybe something that the town

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attorney should discuss with our board.

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deserves a discussion

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between board members.

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myself and two others are being accused

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of harassment in the minutes.

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» It was it's a summary of what Richard

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entire board um uh seeks counsel in this

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particular case. I mean, it's a

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verbatim. It's a verbatim u transcript

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of what happened. It's it's not

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verbatim. [clears throat]

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» Well, it's it's a it's a it's a

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reflection of what was said by uh an

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elected official.

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discuss it and it should be clarified.

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and CC the board on this the responses.

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to approve. All in favor of approving

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uh the word Hernandez Ziggler and

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Trump. Okay. Thank you. Uh, can I get a

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motion to approve the July 20 21st

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public hearing? Uh, uh, Hernandez, can I

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get a second? Ziggler. Uh, any further

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discussion on the public hearing notes?

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» Can you stop J talking so I can hear?

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» Yep. Hey guys, me please. No discussion.

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» I unanimous. Thank you. Uh the special

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meeting on July 29th. May I get a motion

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to approve, please? Uh Ziggler

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Hernandez. Uh any discussion on the

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special meeting?

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okay. Supervisor's report. I want to

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talk about the EMS in Columbia County.

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from Chairman Morurell and the report

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that was given by PJ Keeler. Um

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long story short, uh currently, as I'm

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sure members of the EMS know, we operate

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on a regional basis. Hillsdale is part

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of the cop rescue squad which is funded

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by the towns and correct me if I'm

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wrong. Hillsdale Copek to Conic and

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» I'm sorry

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» Community now cope

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» It's called

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» Community rescue I'm sorry community

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rescue see I told you but anyway the the

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point is uh we used to have seven there

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are now four regional emergency units

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which um is not practical in that

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if there's a big emergency in Gent

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there's no boundaries.

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districts. It is a countywide

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system. So, by having it broken up into

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four system, there not only

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efficiencies, there's, you know, no

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county oversight. Uh, and some towns

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through I can't exactly explain why, but

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um, you can quiz me later, actually pay

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more than their share, some pay less

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than their share because it's all based

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on population and home values and some

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complicated math there. So, what PJ

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Keeler and Chairman Morurell are

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proposing is that we dispense with the

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regional model and go to a full county

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model. Uh this will be voted on

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uh hopefully at the September meeting so

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we can budget for it for 2027 during our

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budget season. I will be voting for this

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as I feel this is a natural

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progression in Columbia County. As as I

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said we used to have seven regionals. We

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only we're down to four. Also, uh these

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numbers that are posted are tentative,

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but it looks like Hillsdale is

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essentially paying their fair share. So,

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while some towns would see an increase

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because they have historically gotten

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lucky, uh Hillsdale seems to be on an

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even keel. So, there's really no

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downside to Hillsdale switching to the

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» Please. Yeah.

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their identity as community rescue?

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» Yes. Still the four squads that's left,

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» Right? But they'll be funded from one

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pot. Okay.

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» That will be distributed and that math

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» Okay. I'm just asking that because they

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all donate to our community rescue

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squad.

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» Yes.

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» And I'm asking because if then if it

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goes to Big Pop then

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» Yeah.

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» So that's that's what

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» Okay. That's a good point. As far as I

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know, yes, because they're not going to

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disband the forward rescue flight,

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» Right? Yeah. I wouldn't think so, but

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they could change the name of it. Sure.

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But right now, they're working under

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» The EMS, which is Columbia County EMS

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under the protocol that they still all

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have their individual identity,

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» Right? And I could just see that that

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could

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» Create a little bit of controversy with

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residents if

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with me if I donate okay

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» You know to community rescue squad and

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it would actually go to this great big

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pot right

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» And goes to Malaysia rescue

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» Okay that's all

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» All right that's a good point uh also

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should mention that they are proposing a

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uh in their 2027 budget a 5% increase

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because there is some major

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without

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» Without a doubt.

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» Yeah. So, I think that bodess well on

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the county level because we'll be able

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to make a stronger case on the

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countywide level than you know like

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right now I attend a a meeting uh down

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in Copek with um uh Supervisor Lutz and

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Supervisor Wolf and Supervisor uh Ryan

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SCOD. Um, but if it's a countywide level

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and you're all making a case, which is a

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very strong case which was outlined in

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detail about the the great need,

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» Sadly to say, probably not. In the long

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near future, we're going to have to be

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having this conversation about the fire

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companies, too.

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» Yeah.

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» Yeah.

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» Absolutely decide.

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» Yeah. Agreed. So, I just want the the

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constituents and the town board to know

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that is my position. if you have further

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thoughts. Uh,

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» So the question, will this create a new

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agency to oversee?

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» No, it'll be overseen by the county

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board of supervisors. Right now, it's

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four supervisors here, five supervisors

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here. So, the supervisors just kind of

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band together,

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» But is there some overall agency that

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the four existing ones will be under

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like a different

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» It'll be under the county

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» The county.

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» Okay. The county board is not running

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this dayto day. who will actually

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» We essentially are right right instead

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of

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» The county EMS council which

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» There's that's already exists

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» That already exists but in terms of

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oversight instead of four supervisors

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working tan just over here and five

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supervisors working up in delay we're

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all going to be working together and

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figuring out you know what what's the

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overall need

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» Okay um

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uh July financials are posted. Uh I

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wanted to make a note that uh the sales

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tax did come in about $180,000

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which is on par with last year as well

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as the $19,000 of um uh tobacco

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settlement. So that puts us back into

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the black with our uh um procurement

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policy, our our fine balance policy, I'm

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sorry. So um

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that's that. Uh I didn't want to do

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that. Um in terms of budget amendment, I

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did not prepare the highway uh transfer

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that we had talked about because I know

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there'll be furthers because of the

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storm. So I think you and I can get

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together and um work out an overall

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budget amendment uh for the next meeting

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if not October.

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» Okay. I just didn't want you to think I

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ignored it. So no budget amendment

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though this month. Uh town clerk report.

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» Mike, I'm sorry. May I ask a question

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about the financials?

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» We have

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the fund the fund balance availability

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and total cash page.

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» Uhhuh.

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» There are

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summaries highlighted in red and

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negative. I'm sorry if I missed this.

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Maybe you

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» Yeah. Um this previous meeting

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» Negative in so much as we have our fund

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balance policy.

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Um

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» Right

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» We're we're are we in violation of the

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policy?

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» Uh we are not in violation of the policy

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but we are underneath the amount that uh

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is suggested. Uh however, with the uh

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influx of the sales tax, we are now no

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longer um in

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under that suggested amount of 734.

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Um or it might be slightly under, but we

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still have revenue coming in from

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various sources. Um the highway, uh we

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are going Richard's going to tell us uh

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the impact of the storms. Um, also

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remember that we do have $250,000

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uh in the West End Bridge account that

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is reserved. We spent, I believe, about

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50,000 so far. So, that's not in here.

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Um, that's because that's in a totally

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separate account. We took it all out.

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So, that's um and the sewer. We'll talk

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about the sewer.

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» So, so the sales tax revenue is is

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reflected here. Sorry, I'm

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» After in August.

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» Uh if you go to uh board documents

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» Uh finance uh uh deposits, you'll see

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all the deposits and you can see uh what

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I deposit on a daily not a daily basis.

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do it.

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» But the revenue, so line uh like the

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sales tax, it looks like it is reflected

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for 2026 because it says

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» Sales tax 134,000 and change

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» Sales taxes quarterly.

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» Yeah.

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» So that reflects one quarter. So

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essentially two 2Q came in which ended

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June. The county did their magic, sent

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us a check the end of July and I

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deposited it in August. and we'll get

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another one in uh the queue will end in

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uh September, so we'll get another check

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in October and then we'll get one after

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the year is over. So, we're still

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probably expecting another

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uh what

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350 400,000 from sales tax.

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» So, so approximately what are we

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year-to- date? Yeah.

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» Uh year to date uh sales tax we are

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approximately

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350 and expecting another 350.

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» But our budget uh if I'm reading this

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correctly, our budget's only 275.

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» Yes. Cuz because part of it goes to the

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highway to

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» Yeah. Part of it goes to the highway.

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» A big portion of it goes to the highway.

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» Not the sale pack. That's the um

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property.

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Oh, property tax. Sales tax, too.

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» Sales taxes.

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Um,

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» I think sales.

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» Yeah.

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» Yeah. I mean if if if it I mean from the

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way I'm reading it if if we are at the

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status or the point that you say we are

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then

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then actually our sales tax revenue is

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not in line with last year. We we would

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have much more right.

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I cash a check.

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» Yeah, I mean we can

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» Well, no. Yeah, because it is

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» We can look at this. Um

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» Yeah, during

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» Yeah. After the meeting, I just uh

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» Yeah. No, I I I definitely noticed that

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also. We can We're going to have a

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series of budget workshops

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» If I'm correct. There's 200 deposited

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yet.

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There's $275,000

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in sales tax budgeted for the town,

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» Right?

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» And there's $225,000

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budgeted for the highway,

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» Right?

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» And so we're actually

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» The total is 400 and those cost has been

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deposited a jet into the highway

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» Into the highway,

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» Right? So we we should be based on the

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second Q above the projections uh of our

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» Of last year

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» Of last year

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» For sales tax um based on the 180 for

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just one quarter

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» Right

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» But I think if it's allocated to highway

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isn't it still shown in our general fund

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budget line

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» Or no that's

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» No yeah yeah

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» It's deposited yes

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» It's deposited to the general but it is

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» General

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» Transferred

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» Transferred to

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» Anyway I anyway there's maybe

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discrepancy there or just clarification

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of whether or not what is actually

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included in that line in [clears throat]

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the

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» Okay

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» And then also I think maybe our our

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board should just discuss

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um discuss the or reference the fund bal

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balance

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policy that we adopt. I think we adopted

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» Yeah.

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» A revision to the fund balance balance

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policy, right?

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» We we every year we read it.

514
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» Yeah.

515
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» Oh, okay.

516
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» Part of our organization over January.

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» Yeah.

518
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» Yeah. I remember reviewing it at some

519
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point.

520
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» Oh, yeah.

521
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» There's a reason it exists. So, we

522
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should maybe

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» Yeah.

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» Reference it at the next meeting. part

525
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of the policy is that it is uh reviewed

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and re reestablished every year. So we

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will continue to do that.

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Um town clerk report.

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» Okay.

530
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» So Emily has been scanning records and

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um

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quite diligently. Thank you.

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We plan to uh review the vault which is

534
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at the substation and order shelving and

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boxes so we can get them more organized

536
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there and still uh do scanning. Um I'm

537
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going to order the archive books for the

538
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rifle records. We have I think $3,000 to

539
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» I think it's $5,000 in record

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management. There is

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» Heard of this year.

542
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» Then dog license donations in uh are

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collected are going to be collected

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monthly by the town clerk at the same

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time that we collect fees and then we

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give them to the supervisor because it's

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broken out in our reports monthly and

548
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then it's determined whether we're going

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to do that monthly to the green county

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or

551
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» Tumblr green.

552
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» Tumbl green. Yeah.

553
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» Yeah.

554
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um or quarterly or something like that.

555
00:24:25,120 --> 00:24:30,320
Um Gretchen and I worked on the salt

556
00:24:27,679 --> 00:24:35,039
shed grant and managed to get that in on

557
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:39,120
July 30th which took quite a while. Um

558
00:24:35,039 --> 00:24:41,279
and then um council member Kurano had a

559
00:24:39,120 --> 00:24:45,919
Corano Nordstrom had an issue with the

560
00:24:41,279 --> 00:24:47,200
minutes from the prior meeting June and

561
00:24:45,919 --> 00:24:49,679
uh was going to supply us with

562
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:51,760
screenshots but I'd never received them.

563
00:24:49,679 --> 00:24:56,320
Did you send them, Jamie?

564
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:58,240
» Uh, no, Rebina. I've been on sick leave.

565
00:24:56,320 --> 00:25:00,640
» But you can't send the minutes.

566
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:04,640
» Yeah, I didn't res I haven't responded

567
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:07,039
to any emails for three weeks.

568
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:09,200
» Okay. But at the last meeting you at the

569
00:25:07,039 --> 00:25:10,960
last meeting, you said that you had you

570
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,679
were you had screenshots and you were

571
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:15,200
going to email.

572
00:25:11,679 --> 00:25:18,400
» I Yeah, I'm I'm happy to respond to your

573
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:20,880
email in this coming week.

574
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:22,559
» Okay. Thank you.

575
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:25,840
Um,

576
00:25:22,559 --> 00:25:27,477
on to the highway superintendent report.

577
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:27,919
Richard,

578
00:25:27,477 --> 00:25:30,480
[clears throat]

579
00:25:27,919 --> 00:25:31,279
» You got my monthly report.

580
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,840
» Yes.

581
00:25:31,279 --> 00:25:34,880
» You got my storm damage report.

582
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:37,840
» Yes.

583
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:42,000
» And

584
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:46,480
as a comment to

585
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:49,440
public comment from someone.

586
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:52,960
I

587
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:57,279
do my best to report

588
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:58,960
to the board and the public of what's

589
00:25:57,279 --> 00:26:01,760
happening.

590
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:04,000
And I think that the people in

591
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:08,080
Harlemville

592
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:10,320
most that most

593
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:13,679
that got the most damage. I mean, that

594
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:16,240
was out there was probably between 10

595
00:26:13,679 --> 00:26:20,159
and 11 inches of rain in 10 hours versus

596
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:22,960
us in in town. Uh 10 inches of rain in

597
00:26:20,159 --> 00:26:26,000
10 hours. Uh

598
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:28,240
and our our highway employees, you know,

599
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:30,320
uh we were short. We're short-handed.

600
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:32,320
We've been short-handed since winter

601
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:35,760
time to employees.

602
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:38,240
Um we worked very diligently to keep

603
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:40,000
coar pipes open, to keep roads open.

604
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:45,559
Unfortunately, we did have to close

605
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:45,559
roads. And again,

606
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:51,919
the comment was made that I made a

607
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,760
statement [snorts]

608
00:26:51,919 --> 00:26:56,159
and put it in writing and I stand behind

609
00:26:53,760 --> 00:27:00,159
that.

610
00:26:56,159 --> 00:27:02,880
But Bezant Lane, significant damage.

611
00:27:00,159 --> 00:27:08,159
Comro significant damage. The road was

612
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:13,120
closed. We lost a 6ft coldware pipe.

613
00:27:08,159 --> 00:27:16,720
I with my budget and what my 284 was the

614
00:27:13,120 --> 00:27:20,480
whole nine yards everything is changing

615
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:24,000
because [snorts] there's no there

616
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:25,600
I am not going to give certain con

617
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,200
constituents

618
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:31,039
the pleasure of saying I went over

619
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:34,240
budget. I am working diligently to stay

620
00:27:31,039 --> 00:27:37,360
within the budget to keep our roads open

621
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:39,279
to keep our roads safe and to continue

622
00:27:37,360 --> 00:27:41,440
on

623
00:27:39,279 --> 00:27:44,880
our chip ceiling which is starting this

624
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:47,279
week the rain we had dates that this

625
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:48,640
rain changed dates

626
00:27:47,279 --> 00:27:51,600
I am not going to be able to do

627
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:53,200
everything that I was I wanted to do

628
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:56,320
it's

629
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:58,720
as an elected highway superintendent as

630
00:27:56,320 --> 00:28:04,600
your elected highway superintendent

631
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:04,600
This is in my preview of how to

632
00:28:05,120 --> 00:28:09,840
bring it back to you guys of what's

633
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:13,679
going on. Mike, we've been on the phone.

634
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:15,679
We're being almost I I mean, weeks after

635
00:28:13,679 --> 00:28:17,520
the storm, this is going on, that's

636
00:28:15,679 --> 00:28:20,480
going on. What can I do? You know, you

637
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:23,039
know, so everybody was informed.

638
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:26,720
And Hillsdale

639
00:28:23,039 --> 00:28:30,559
is not as bad as a couple other

640
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:34,080
communities, but we

641
00:28:30,559 --> 00:28:40,919
suffered significant damage. And I am

642
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:40,919
very proud to say that my

643
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:48,960
work over the last 20 years of chip

644
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:51,039
sealing roads saved this town so much

645
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:54,399
money because

646
00:28:51,039 --> 00:28:57,200
I did an estimate for the county for the

647
00:28:54,399 --> 00:28:59,279
uh for the emergency management with

648
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:01,440
only materials

649
00:28:59,279 --> 00:29:03,440
for this storm

650
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,880
of 100 just material.

651
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:08,799
That's without cover pipes. That's with

652
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:10,320
a labor of $125,000.

653
00:29:08,799 --> 00:29:13,039
Back when we went through Sandy and

654
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:17,600
Irene separately,

655
00:29:13,039 --> 00:29:20,799
we were over $1.2 million in damage to

656
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:23,039
road services alone.

657
00:29:20,799 --> 00:29:25,279
and everybody that lives in Harlemville,

658
00:29:23,039 --> 00:29:28,880
Harlemville Road being sealed, chip

659
00:29:25,279 --> 00:29:32,480
sealed, harder,

660
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:36,080
uh, Wolf Hill, these roads were all

661
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:38,399
underwater. Underwater by feet and we

662
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:40,720
had the road surfaces. I'm very, very

663
00:29:38,399 --> 00:29:43,360
proud of that. And I can tell you the

664
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:45,200
majority and it makes me very proud to

665
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,640
be able to say this tonight after all

666
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,720
the controversy I've gone through for

667
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:52,000
the last two years with Chip Simmon

668
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:55,200
Roads. The compliments and the thank

669
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:58,320
yous to the from the taxpayers of what

670
00:29:55,200 --> 00:30:00,320
we were able to save them

671
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:02,960
almost brings tears to my eyes tonight

672
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:06,559
to say that to you

673
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:10,799
because that is a major accomplishment.

674
00:30:06,559 --> 00:30:12,640
And to have that money saved is a big

675
00:30:10,799 --> 00:30:19,000
deal

676
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:19,000
to me and to so many taxpayers.

677
00:30:19,679 --> 00:30:23,440
» Okay. Thank you. And uh

678
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:26,159
» Thank you guys for supporting me, the

679
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:29,440
board, and thank you Mike and Rebina

680
00:30:26,159 --> 00:30:31,520
especially with all the

681
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,720
the 10:00 at night phone calls and we

682
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:35,120
got to do this, we got to do that, we

683
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:36,159
got to do, you know, thank you guys. I

684
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,720
much appreciate it.

685
00:30:36,159 --> 00:30:40,240
» You're on the 10 p.m. I'm on the 7 5

686
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:43,200
a.m.

687
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:46,320
» 5 a.m.

688
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:48,799
» Um, no, thank you. Uh, it's hard to

689
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,360
believe that we dodged a bullet.

690
00:30:48,799 --> 00:30:51,360
» Yeah,

691
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,799
» Because

692
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:56,480
» 10 miles

693
00:30:52,799 --> 00:30:57,120
» Had that track 10 miles.

694
00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:00,399
Uh

695
00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:03,520
» If we didn't get the break in the rain

696
00:31:00,399 --> 00:31:05,679
in town on this side of just say on this

697
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:09,919
side of Whipville,

698
00:31:05,679 --> 00:31:11,600
» If we hadn't gotten that break,

699
00:31:09,919 --> 00:31:14,240
» You know, it just it was just light

700
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:15,520
enough to be able to catch up some.

701
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:18,080
» It was a big deal.

702
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:21,760
» Yeah. I mean, I can proudly say Texas

703
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:23,840
Hill Road there no road surface damage

704
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:26,640
and the only reason we lost anything on

705
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:28,960
the shoulders was because the power

706
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:30,559
company had gone up into the woods

707
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,320
» And diverted you know they didn't

708
00:31:30,559 --> 00:31:35,679
purposely divert the water but with

709
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:37,840
their big vehicles. So, it missed

710
00:31:35,679 --> 00:31:39,600
instead of it going into a culver pipe,

711
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:42,720
it just washed down

712
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:45,760
» And it was, you know, a few loads of uh

713
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,640
the infamous Gabian rock that cure that

714
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:51,120
problem.

715
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:53,200
» Yeah. Um I I do want to say I I agree

716
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,960
with the constituent who said that uh

717
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:57,279
this is will not be the last. And the

718
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:59,200
scary part of this storm is that it

719
00:31:57,279 --> 00:32:01,840
wasn't a hurricane. It wasn't Sandy.

720
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:03,919
This was a storm,

721
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:06,080
» Not a tropical something from

722
00:32:03,919 --> 00:32:07,919
» You're right. But this was a storm. The

723
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:11,519
hurricanes both Sandy and I [snorts] are

724
00:32:07,919 --> 00:32:14,880
in. It was the rain that was over a

725
00:32:11,519 --> 00:32:18,480
period of a day and a half, two days.

726
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:23,440
This was rain over a period of 10 hours.

727
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:26,799
» Yeah. you know, so I mean, just go up

728
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:28,799
the Hudson River corridor

729
00:32:26,799 --> 00:32:30,720
and there's still state roads that's

730
00:32:28,799 --> 00:32:32,240
closed because of this with the same

731
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:35,200
amount of rain,

732
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:38,159
» But it was the amount

733
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,960
in the time it was it came in a shorter

734
00:32:38,159 --> 00:32:41,360
period of time.

735
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:44,080
» Yeah. Um, like I said, I do like the

736
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:45,919
suggestion brought forth of um photos

737
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,880
because I can't drive around on these

738
00:32:45,919 --> 00:32:49,200
roads.

739
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:52,159
» They're all on my phone, right? I I can

740
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,799
only say that I've, you know,

741
00:32:52,159 --> 00:32:53,919
» This is the best

742
00:32:52,799 --> 00:32:56,320
» For sure.

743
00:32:53,919 --> 00:32:57,440
» Let me put this on a record for sure to

744
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,440
employees.

745
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:02,080
» I'm on the road. I have been in

746
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:04,799
equipment. We have the the pictures are

747
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:07,519
on my phone when we, you know, and then

748
00:33:04,799 --> 00:33:09,039
doing all the documentation for the

749
00:33:07,519 --> 00:33:10,960
county, you know,

750
00:33:09,039 --> 00:33:13,120
» And we got the letter today that, you

751
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,559
know, it doesn't look like or the email.

752
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,960
It doesn't look like any of this is

753
00:33:14,559 --> 00:33:18,559
covered. So the taxpayers of Hillsdale

754
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,480
have to cover this. It's not like it's

755
00:33:18,559 --> 00:33:23,200
going to be any kind of assistance from

756
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:27,600
the state or the federal government.

757
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:29,519
» So, just one more thing that you know my

758
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,720
work has

759
00:33:29,519 --> 00:33:32,799
saved a lot.

760
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:34,480
» Absolutely. And just so the public knows

761
00:33:32,799 --> 00:33:36,559
I did forward that email to the town

762
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:39,039
board. I I I should have put it in the

763
00:33:36,559 --> 00:33:40,960
public record which I I can still do. Uh

764
00:33:39,039 --> 00:33:42,159
but

765
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:45,279
» To this was it not?

766
00:33:42,159 --> 00:33:45,919
» Uh no that was uh that was your report.

767
00:33:45,279 --> 00:33:48,320
Um

768
00:33:45,919 --> 00:33:51,120
» Okay. uh it did not the level of damage

769
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,440
did not reach the threshold for FEMA or

770
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:55,279
» State

771
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:56,399
» Or state uh which is hard to believe but

772
00:33:55,279 --> 00:33:59,279
that is what it is

773
00:33:56,399 --> 00:34:01,360
» It was such a narrow

774
00:33:59,279 --> 00:34:04,399
» Right it wasn't

775
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:08,159
» So we will have some discussions

776
00:34:04,399 --> 00:34:10,240
probably next month about um

777
00:34:08,159 --> 00:34:13,440
financial matters

778
00:34:10,240 --> 00:34:16,079
» I'm as I said I'm adjusting my schedule

779
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:18,960
to I'm not going to be chips sealing as

780
00:34:16,079 --> 00:34:21,200
much because of this. I I'm changing

781
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:23,040
things as we

782
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,560
» Well, I was on the phone with Rebina.

783
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,800
She got me some different reports of

784
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:28,480
where things actually stand.

785
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,440
» So, before we start on Thursday and

786
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:32,000
Friday, you're probably going to be

787
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:33,119
later than that now, you know, cuz I'm

788
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:33,679
not going to

789
00:34:33,119 --> 00:34:35,280
» Understood.

790
00:34:33,679 --> 00:34:38,240
» I'm going to be within the budget.

791
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:41,399
» Okay. All right. I'm actually because of

792
00:34:38,240 --> 00:34:41,399
the storm,

793
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:48,240
my equipment budget, I'll publicly say

794
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:51,040
this, the my funds for equipment, my

795
00:34:48,240 --> 00:34:54,079
point 2 account has now has to be

796
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:56,320
transferred into my 5110.4

797
00:34:54,079 --> 00:34:56,879
account to cover road repairs.

798
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:57,200
» Right.

799
00:34:56,879 --> 00:35:00,320
» Right.

800
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:01,520
» So, we're going to be falling behind on

801
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,680
equipment,

802
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:05,280
» But that's what we have to do.

803
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:09,920
» Right.

804
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:11,599
Okay. Uh if you uh want to meet at any

805
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,440
time, let me know to

806
00:35:11,599 --> 00:35:15,599
» Yeah.

807
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:17,520
because fall too far behind with the

808
00:35:15,599 --> 00:35:17,839
budget amendments,

809
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,599
» Right?

810
00:35:17,839 --> 00:35:22,720
» So we can meet, you know, maybe Rebina,

811
00:35:19,599 --> 00:35:24,720
you Bob and I can give you what what I'm

812
00:35:22,720 --> 00:35:26,720
forecasting and then Okay. Just so we're

813
00:35:24,720 --> 00:35:29,200
up to date with the amendments because

814
00:35:26,720 --> 00:35:30,640
as I said, I thought the 77 was

815
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:33,040
happening.

816
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,839
» You know, it would more balance. So, but

817
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,359
I wanted to make it

818
00:35:33,839 --> 00:35:37,119
» There's going to be some negative in my

819
00:35:35,359 --> 00:35:37,599
account for, you know,

820
00:35:37,119 --> 00:35:39,280
» Okay,

821
00:35:37,599 --> 00:35:40,640
» Before the next board meeting.

822
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,000
» All right. Yeah. No,

823
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:45,119
» Because I've submitted some bills

824
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:46,240
already for August. It's going to

825
00:35:45,119 --> 00:35:48,560
» It's going to take you over. Okay.

826
00:35:46,240 --> 00:35:50,320
Understood. We should be prepared to see

827
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,119
» But the overall budget,

828
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,640
» Yeah,

829
00:35:51,119 --> 00:35:55,280
» I'm still with Evan.

830
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:57,520
» Okay. All right. So, uh look forward to

831
00:35:55,280 --> 00:36:00,000
those budget amendments to discuss next

832
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:02,480
month. Uh we'll also be entering a

833
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:04,560
budget season next month.

834
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:06,480
» Where did the year go? Uh you can see

835
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:08,880
our budget schedule down at the bottom

836
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:11,520
of the agenda that's been posted for

837
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:13,680
several months. Uh so this will be part

838
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,640
of a larger discussion also going

839
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:17,200
forward.

840
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:18,800
» One thing we didn't discuss under

841
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:21,200
highway

842
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:22,560
which

843
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,480
» Maybe it was somewhere coming up

844
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,040
somewhere else but the grants for the

845
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,560
culbert.

846
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,000
» Yeah, that's that's next.

847
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:30,640
» Okay. Okay.

848
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:33,520
» So, I can give a little precy of that.

849
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:35,760
Uh I have Rebina mentioned that the salt

850
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:38,000
shed grant is in. Thank you to Gretch

851
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:42,079
and Stevens and toina Wards. We really

852
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:44,240
uh uh uh burn the midnight oil, shall we

853
00:36:42,079 --> 00:36:45,680
say? Uh

854
00:36:44,240 --> 00:36:48,880
got them

855
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:51,680
» Right under the wire. Next year I've got

856
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:54,560
I've got CFA due and it's you're going

857
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:58,079
to start this in February. Uh but thank

858
00:36:54,560 --> 00:37:01,760
you. Uh upon further investigation of

859
00:36:58,079 --> 00:37:05,119
the Hudson River estuary program, the

860
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:09,839
issue is that they require New York

861
00:37:05,119 --> 00:37:13,119
State DO design standards, which throws

862
00:37:09,839 --> 00:37:15,839
it into Culver. That throws it into a

863
00:37:13,119 --> 00:37:20,000
whole different realm of uh

864
00:37:15,839 --> 00:37:23,839
architectural drawings of um of just

865
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:26,640
everything. it just takes a culvert and

866
00:37:23,839 --> 00:37:29,760
then multiplies it by at least four or

867
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:31,920
five. So that becomes a problem because

868
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:33,359
the match is essentially what we might

869
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:36,800
be paying for.

870
00:37:33,359 --> 00:37:38,640
» So I did contact the person that

871
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:40,240
contract that gave us the quote last

872
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:42,000
year of 120 grand,

873
00:37:40,240 --> 00:37:44,880
» Right?

874
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:49,800
» And had the discussion. So we're still

875
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:49,800
able to do that. It is a three

876
00:37:49,839 --> 00:37:54,400
three-sided

877
00:37:52,240 --> 00:37:57,040
» Co piped that

878
00:37:54,400 --> 00:38:00,400
» Again the year inflation added to the

879
00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:03,280
120 whatever thousand it was.

880
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:07,119
» But for us to go from $120,000 it's

881
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:08,960
going to close a road for a week versus

882
00:38:07,119 --> 00:38:12,880
if we don't do anything that could close

883
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:14,720
the road for whatever.

884
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,760
» The money's in my budget.

885
00:38:14,720 --> 00:38:19,520
» Yes.

886
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:22,480
But we're now that we've opened

887
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:24,240
ourselves up to a grant, we're can we

888
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,760
still go? Because he said he was still

889
00:38:24,240 --> 00:38:26,800
well. He was going to update that and

890
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:29,280
he's under

891
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:30,800
» State contract and everything. So that

892
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:34,480
» It's a little bit tougher at this time

893
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:38,240
of year because of the

894
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:40,640
that's a kind of tributary stream, not a

895
00:38:38,240 --> 00:38:42,640
trout stream, but there's a couple

896
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:45,599
interrupt you so everyone knows. This is

897
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:49,359
the covert on Mitchell. Just south of

898
00:38:45,599 --> 00:38:50,320
just north of 23 on Mitchell the f

899
00:38:49,359 --> 00:38:52,320
» Just off the intersection.

900
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,200
» Just off the intersection 23.

901
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,599
» Sorry to interrupt.

902
00:38:53,200 --> 00:39:00,200
» All the Mitchell Street what we have in

903
00:38:55,599 --> 00:39:00,200
all the records is the Mitchell Street

904
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:02,079
» South.

905
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:02,960
» South.

906
00:39:02,079 --> 00:39:03,839
» Okay.

907
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:04,880
» So,

908
00:39:03,839 --> 00:39:06,960
» Oh, yeah. Because it's south,

909
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:09,680
» Right? Okay. Right. And yeah, the one

910
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:11,359
that's been going on since 2018

911
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:15,280
by Home Road is the Mitchell Street

912
00:39:11,359 --> 00:39:17,520
North by uh

913
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:19,119
that's just the height of the the water

914
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:23,400
for

915
00:39:19,119 --> 00:39:23,400
the fish that's right.

916
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:29,200
» Okay. So, uh, long story short, we can

917
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:32,320
still go after the CFA grant next year

918
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:34,000
for culverts, but the, uh, it was

919
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:36,800
determined that the Hudson estuary

920
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:40,480
program is not really,

921
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:44,160
uh, uh, cost effective for us as a small

922
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:47,359
town with a relatively small cover.

923
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:53,119
» So, we went through this 10 in of rain.

924
00:39:47,359 --> 00:39:54,960
» Mhm. And that cold pipe has not did not

925
00:39:53,119 --> 00:39:56,720
suffer any further damage.

926
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:59,280
» Okay.

927
00:39:56,720 --> 00:40:00,560
But

928
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:03,839
somewhere along the line, we need to

929
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:06,800
have a communication of

930
00:40:03,839 --> 00:40:09,040
are we going to go for the cost out of

931
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:13,047
the budget, which the money is in the

932
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:13,440
budget this year for the $120,000 versus

933
00:40:13,047 --> 00:40:15,920
[clears throat]

934
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:17,440
» $47,000

935
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,640
to be able to get a grant,

936
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,800
» Right? Yeah. That

937
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,920
» And that's the big hit. I mean, where do

938
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:24,560
we

939
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:27,280
» So, I don't The communication is in the

940
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:31,359
public. So, I'm I'm I'm saying to the

941
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:33,359
board or asking the board

942
00:40:31,359 --> 00:40:38,000
to have this conversation with me at

943
00:40:33,359 --> 00:40:40,960
least because I don't know

944
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:43,520
where we've only got another month, two

945
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:44,000
months at the most to get this work

946
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:44,480
done,

947
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,520
» Right?

948
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:48,320
» So, it's that short of a time frame. So,

949
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,400
what do you think?

950
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:53,839
» What's your recommendation? Personally,

951
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:55,280
the way I feel is that, you know, we

952
00:40:53,839 --> 00:40:57,599
should get this done with the the

953
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:59,440
budgeted money. But, but the problem

954
00:40:57,599 --> 00:41:03,440
being is

955
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:05,599
that amount that was budgeted was for an

956
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,800
estimate from last year. I don't have an

957
00:41:05,599 --> 00:41:10,560
updated

958
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:12,079
» Estimate and everything. I mean, fuel

959
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,839
prices have doubled. I mean, that's

960
00:41:12,079 --> 00:41:16,079
that's our big my biggest problem with

961
00:41:13,839 --> 00:41:17,760
my budget, you know. So, I mean, I'm

962
00:41:16,079 --> 00:41:20,480
sure the cost of this project is going

963
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:22,880
to be more, too, which I don't have the

964
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:25,359
overrun in my budget to be up. You know,

965
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:27,760
if it was

966
00:41:25,359 --> 00:41:29,760
12 and they're going to say 1770, I

967
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,720
don't have that $50,000 to play with in

968
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:34,160
this year's budget.

969
00:41:30,720 --> 00:41:36,880
» Okay. So, we obviously need the updated

970
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:38,960
um budget numbers to make a decision.

971
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:40,880
» And as I said, I've talked to Chris a

972
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:42,640
couple times about this, but I didn't

973
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:45,200
know where we were standing. I can call

974
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:48,000
him and revisit it and

975
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:49,520
» Yes uh I think the board would obviously

976
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:52,400
consider keep saying [clears throat]

977
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:55,359
obviously staff uh would consider uh an

978
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:56,079
updated proposal uh as this has been on

979
00:41:55,359 --> 00:41:58,800
the

980
00:41:56,079 --> 00:42:00,240
» I will get that he's got all the

981
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,560
information he's got all the photos he's

982
00:42:00,240 --> 00:42:04,640
got all that so I can probably

983
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:06,240
» Going to be a couple days but I can yeah

984
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,359
and then build from there but I don't

985
00:42:06,240 --> 00:42:08,560
know that we're going to have enough

986
00:42:07,359 --> 00:42:10,240
time

987
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:13,359
» If we wait until the next board meeting

988
00:42:10,240 --> 00:42:15,040
to make a decision Okay. Well, we can,

989
00:42:13,359 --> 00:42:17,040
you know, have a special meeting. Uh, we

990
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:18,640
can go through the numbers with you, uh,

991
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:20,640
and see, you know, exactly how much

992
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:22,400
you're going to be

993
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:24,560
» Moving around within your budget and

994
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:27,119
will you, you know, and what's left in

995
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:28,800
our budget and our contingency. And so,

996
00:42:27,119 --> 00:42:30,960
there are some moving pieces here, but

997
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:33,040
let's start with the new estimate. And,

998
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:34,720
uh, I, you know, this is,

999
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:38,160
» I just, as I had that conversation with

1000
00:42:34,720 --> 00:42:41,200
you, I'm just amazed at how much is

1001
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:44,560
added to a project.

1002
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:46,960
as soon as you ask for a gram.

1003
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:49,200
» That that

1004
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,520
it's the New York State standards that

1005
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,119
are

1006
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:54,599
» I'm sure it's not just New York State,

1007
00:42:51,119 --> 00:42:54,599
but yeah.

1008
00:42:54,834 --> 00:42:57,520
[laughter]

1009
00:42:56,000 --> 00:43:00,079
» Love New York State, but uh

1010
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:01,440
» I just, you know, we've always gone

1011
00:43:00,079 --> 00:43:03,839
through the whole process, so it's been

1012
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,400
a slow thing. This is basically in our

1013
00:43:03,839 --> 00:43:04,720
face,

1014
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,720
» Right?

1015
00:43:04,720 --> 00:43:07,920
» And it was Yeah.

1016
00:43:06,720 --> 00:43:09,760
» Yeah. What a difference.

1017
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:11,680
» What a difference. But, you know, we do

1018
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:13,440
have three other culberts that need

1019
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:16,000
replacing also currently.

1020
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:19,040
» Well, those culberts, and I I'll say

1021
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:21,280
this, they are not

1022
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:22,240
» Damaged. They're not like going to close

1023
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:25,240
the road,

1024
00:43:22,240 --> 00:43:25,240
» Right?

1025
00:43:25,599 --> 00:43:30,000
» They're not an imminent uh

1026
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:32,160
» Right. It's it's undersizing and stuff.

1027
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:33,599
And if they do flood, it's not like it's

1028
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,960
going to take out the road because we've

1029
00:43:33,599 --> 00:43:35,839
had that before in the past.

1030
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:36,400
» Mhm. Okay.

1031
00:43:35,839 --> 00:43:38,240
» But uh

1032
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,359
» But I guess my point is we can go like

1033
00:43:38,240 --> 00:43:39,760
it's going to collapse,

1034
00:43:39,359 --> 00:43:41,760
» Right?

1035
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,240
» Or the Lord is going to undermine them.

1036
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,480
» Yeah.

1037
00:43:42,240 --> 00:43:47,040
» And then have the road change. That's

1038
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:49,839
» But my point is next June 30th. June

1039
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:51,440
30th. June 30th, we can go for a CFA

1040
00:43:49,839 --> 00:43:52,400
grant which does not have the strict

1041
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:53,760
standards for the

1042
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,520
» Start in January. So I

1043
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,480
» Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we're going to

1044
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:59,440
No, actually we're going to start in

1045
00:43:56,480 --> 00:44:01,280
October and then September 24th when we

1046
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:03,119
talk about the budget and the grants

1047
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:06,000
we're going to potentially go for next

1048
00:44:03,119 --> 00:44:07,680
year. have a list of projects and uh

1049
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,079
» We definitely learned this year with

1050
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:11,040
that.

1051
00:44:08,079 --> 00:44:13,520
» Yeah. Yeah.

1052
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:16,520
» But I want to thank you and

1053
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,520
» Yes,

1054
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:22,640
» Did you ask a question? Is are the um

1055
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,359
Can you hear me? Okay.

1056
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,240
» Yeah. Yeah.

1057
00:44:23,359 --> 00:44:28,000
» Yes.

1058
00:44:24,240 --> 00:44:31,040
» Okay. Um, are the cost differences from

1059
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:33,040
the DOT's engineering standards? Are the

1060
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:36,400
cost differences

1061
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:40,560
also because the estruary programs

1062
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:42,640
predominantly support alternative

1063
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:44,800
uh crossings

1064
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:48,400
like uh

1065
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:52,800
uh bottomless culverts and

1066
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:54,880
um you know actually actually the type

1067
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:56,319
of crossings that are not traditional

1068
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:59,760
culverts

1069
00:44:56,319 --> 00:45:03,520
» Right I believe it's both the design

1070
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:05,440
aspect effect definitely was quadrupled

1071
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:08,800
uh uh for them to even consider the

1072
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:12,160
grant. So uh but that you know also led

1073
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:14,800
into the construction cost and the

1074
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:17,119
uh I guess whatever standards they use.

1075
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:18,720
» Well, we could clearly put in even

1076
00:45:17,119 --> 00:45:22,560
though it would have a bottom it would

1077
00:45:18,720 --> 00:45:25,839
be put in the ground. So it would be a

1078
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:28,079
foursided structure but it would still

1079
00:45:25,839 --> 00:45:30,560
have your rear crossing.

1080
00:45:28,079 --> 00:45:32,400
» Yeah. And it's but the three-sided

1081
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:34,240
structure obviously is a lot more

1082
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:36,960
because of the footings and the whole

1083
00:45:34,240 --> 00:45:40,160
» Right but it was also a function of a

1084
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:43,200
time constraint coupled with uh

1085
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:44,640
unforeseen cost that uh led us to say

1086
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,200
okay we're not going to be able to

1087
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,040
approve this

1088
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:51,119
» But one of the biggest costs was when it

1089
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:53,200
went to that do phase or whatever it

1090
00:45:51,119 --> 00:45:56,720
» It was a major increase

1091
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:58,400
» It was like doing what they did on 23 on

1092
00:45:56,720 --> 00:45:59,920
these two you know it Yeah.

1093
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:02,480
» Significantly more.

1094
00:45:59,920 --> 00:46:05,040
» So, but uh thank you to Gretchen for

1095
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:07,599
» Alerting us to this.

1096
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:08,480
» So much work. I can't express.

1097
00:46:07,599 --> 00:46:08,800
» Yeah.

1098
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,079
» Yeah.

1099
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:12,240
» Even with the salt building, you know,

1100
00:46:10,079 --> 00:46:14,160
but she did a lot of this work with this

1101
00:46:12,240 --> 00:46:14,560
this cover pipe too. So,

1102
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,560
» Yeah,

1103
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:20,000
» She was. So,

1104
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:23,920
» We are on notice for next year to pursue

1105
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:24,800
this, but um and and to have a robust

1106
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,079
branch. We're going to have another

1107
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:27,920
Heather one to deal with and that's the

1108
00:46:26,079 --> 00:46:28,800
one on Plum Road because

1109
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,560
» Because of the storm

1110
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:35,040
» I could only piece that together.

1111
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:36,480
» Okay. All right. So, we're up to Okay.

1112
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:38,800
Thank you, Richard.

1113
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:40,800
» Yeah. Thank you guys. Much appreciated.

1114
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:43,920
Uh, we have to go back to the clerk's

1115
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:49,440
report because I neglected to put forth

1116
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:51,520
a resolution to pass state form RS2417-

1117
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:53,599
as per the office of New York State

1118
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:58,480
comproller and the New York State and

1119
00:46:53,599 --> 00:47:01,920
local retirement system. Can I get a um

1120
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:05,280
motion please for form RS

1121
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:09,280
» Hernandez? Can I get a second? Ziggler.

1122
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:10,960
Uh, any comment on this is a um a form

1123
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:13,920
required by New York State. Then they

1124
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:15,920
require that it be passed by resolution.

1125
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,720
Uh, this is for the pension system, I

1126
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,880
believe. Yeah,

1127
00:47:16,720 --> 00:47:21,760
» That's

1128
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:23,280
» It sounds like a pro for nothing

1129
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,240
» Substantive we need to talk about here,

1130
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,160
right?

1131
00:47:24,240 --> 00:47:27,920
» Yeah, it's

1132
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:31,880
correct.

1133
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:31,880
Uh, any further discussion?

1134
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:39,119
Uh, all in favor? Uh, Feld is frozen.

1135
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:41,359
No. Feld. Uh,

1136
00:47:39,119 --> 00:47:42,560
» Karana.

1137
00:47:41,359 --> 00:47:45,119
Uh,

1138
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:48,319
» I have a one question just because it's

1139
00:47:45,119 --> 00:47:53,040
just obvious on the but it's it says

1140
00:47:48,319 --> 00:47:56,040
standard workday and then it has eight

1141
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:56,040
hours

1142
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,720
» As what?

1143
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:01,359
» It's a standard work day.

1144
00:47:58,720 --> 00:48:03,839
» Oh, okay. I see. I see. Um, I see how

1145
00:48:01,359 --> 00:48:06,720
it's separated. I'm sorry. Go ahead.

1146
00:48:03,839 --> 00:48:08,640
» Okay. So, all in favor, Hernandez,

1147
00:48:06,720 --> 00:48:10,319
Ziggler, Feld,

1148
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:13,280
» And Chrono. Hi.

1149
00:48:10,319 --> 00:48:15,520
» Okay. Thank you. We will get that filed.

1150
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:17,040
Um, sewer.

1151
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:20,400
Okay.

1152
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:24,000
H se

1153
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:25,680
is coming on September 3rd for a visit.

1154
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:28,079
Uh, as you know, we've worked very hard

1155
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:30,240
to um,

1156
00:48:28,079 --> 00:48:32,400
uh, maintain good relationships with the

1157
00:48:30,240 --> 00:48:35,040
DEC. So, I look forward to the visit

1158
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:37,040
from our representative Jamie Malcolm.

1159
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:41,440
Uh,

1160
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:43,760
» Uh, it's pretty. I don't know. Um,

1161
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:46,000
» Uh, good question. I'll call Jamie

1162
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:50,319
probably. Well, both. We'll have to go

1163
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:55,280
on site. Um, uh, our sewer operator will

1164
00:48:50,319 --> 00:48:58,720
be in attendance. Um, I did send a soil

1165
00:48:55,280 --> 00:49:00,240
sample from the burm to Cornell. Takes

1166
00:48:58,720 --> 00:49:03,920
them eight weeks. Seems like a long

1167
00:49:00,240 --> 00:49:06,800
time, but that's And I also did disperse

1168
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:09,920
a bag of grass seed as a test before it

1169
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:11,440
rained a couple days ago. So

1170
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,240
hopefully

1171
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:13,520
uh

1172
00:49:12,240 --> 00:49:16,319
» It's not growing. That's the issue.

1173
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:18,160
» It is growing, but not as robustly as

1174
00:49:16,319 --> 00:49:20,240
one would. So, I wish Richard was back

1175
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:22,160
for this, but I bet they they compacted

1176
00:49:20,240 --> 00:49:25,440
it, right? When they they formed the

1177
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:28,400
» Yeah. Or it could be some salt or some

1178
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:28,880
» Yeah. He used the good soil that he had.

1179
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:31,040
» Yeah.

1180
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:33,680
» They used that for the base.

1181
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:35,520
» And then he had to purchase other soil

1182
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:37,359
for the top and that was the

1183
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:39,040
» Yeah, it was more soil than

1184
00:49:37,359 --> 00:49:40,720
» I bet it wasn't loosened before you

1185
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,440
spread that seed in.

1186
00:49:40,720 --> 00:49:43,280
» It wasn't.

1187
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:46,160
» It was not. And then they covered it

1188
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:48,480
with the blue mesh. And that's

1189
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:51,200
» Even even in great conditions, that's

1190
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:53,200
not going to do very well, right?

1191
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:54,559
» You can even see the repair that they

1192
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:55,359
did in Crerville, you know, in front of

1193
00:49:54,559 --> 00:49:57,040
the church.

1194
00:49:55,359 --> 00:49:59,040
» They did all the right stuff, but it's

1195
00:49:57,040 --> 00:50:00,880
just compacted and the scrap wasn't

1196
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:02,720
plate very well. You got to loosen it.

1197
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:03,839
» Maybe I'll take you down and

1198
00:50:02,720 --> 00:50:04,160
» If you have a moment.

1199
00:50:03,839 --> 00:50:07,200
» Yeah.

1200
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:12,240
» In your in your busy season. Um, look,

1201
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:16,000
we've had some uh issues with um

1202
00:50:12,240 --> 00:50:18,960
breakers [snorts] to the pumps. Uh two

1203
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:22,160
issues uh while Revina was on vacation

1204
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:24,400
that the uh just the breaker flipped or

1205
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:27,040
the breaker was removed. So, the we had

1206
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:32,400
some unexpected pumping issues uh with

1207
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:36,480
two tanks. Uh we did on the uh advice of

1208
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:39,520
our sewer operator uh purchase a few uh

1209
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:42,559
pumps to have on hand should because the

1210
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:44,880
pumps are now 20 years old.

1211
00:50:42,559 --> 00:50:47,839
» So you know I know I had some very

1212
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:51,680
optimistic uh projections for the end of

1213
00:50:47,839 --> 00:50:54,000
the year uh balance. I think it's going

1214
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:56,319
to be not as optimistic as we initially

1215
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:58,880
thought because it always seems to be

1216
00:50:56,319 --> 00:51:01,200
something with the sewer and un

1217
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:04,480
unforeseen [clears throat]

1218
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:06,160
stuff. But we are, you know, considering

1219
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:09,359
that there's been threequarters of a

1220
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:11,839
million dollars of upgrades, I think

1221
00:51:09,359 --> 00:51:16,000
where we will end up

1222
00:51:11,839 --> 00:51:19,040
debt wise is pretty impressive still. Uh

1223
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:20,400
plus we want to ma maintain we want to

1224
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:22,559
do the proper maintenance because that's

1225
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:23,200
how we got into this mess of the first

1226
00:51:22,559 --> 00:51:25,520
time.

1227
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:28,160
» Proper maintenance wasn't happening and

1228
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:30,160
that led to a big

1229
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:33,200
problem a big half a million dollar

1230
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:38,559
problem. So if we I and the board can

1231
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:40,240
you know always uh disagree and um but

1232
00:51:38,559 --> 00:51:44,079
» Mainten

1233
00:51:40,240 --> 00:51:44,640
control panel too that wasn't

1234
00:51:44,079 --> 00:51:46,880
» Uh

1235
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:49,839
» Technical that wasn't working properly

1236
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:51,280
» Right uh the dosing was the dosing was

1237
00:51:49,839 --> 00:51:53,200
working properly it's just it wasn't

1238
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:56,720
they need to be programmed

1239
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:58,240
» Yeah so um just know that thank god for

1240
00:51:56,720 --> 00:52:03,839
I can't say this enough thank god for

1241
00:51:58,240 --> 00:52:05,119
less and H2O they have uh I don't

1242
00:52:03,839 --> 00:52:09,040
know where we would be without them.

1243
00:52:05,119 --> 00:52:11,839
We'd be shut down. Um um so

1244
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:14,960
um we will again be discussing this at

1245
00:52:11,839 --> 00:52:17,599
budget time. Um so that's uh that's my

1246
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:19,839
update. Any other update? Uh we're still

1247
00:52:17,599 --> 00:52:20,480
waiting to hear about the design grant.

1248
00:52:19,839 --> 00:52:22,160
Uh

1249
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,520
» Oh yeah.

1250
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:26,880
» Still waiting to hear about the design

1251
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:27,920
grant and the um Anthony Street cold

1252
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,680
water.

1253
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:32,559
» The street grant. the street grant.

1254
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:33,599
» These were CFA filings in July or

1255
00:52:32,559 --> 00:52:34,559
December some years.

1256
00:52:33,599 --> 00:52:36,720
» Yeah.

1257
00:52:34,559 --> 00:52:38,880
» Oh, yeah. All right. Well, the the

1258
00:52:36,720 --> 00:52:40,480
design grant was actually a DEC grant

1259
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:42,240
which was due in

1260
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:44,000
» CFA

1261
00:52:42,240 --> 00:52:44,640
has got this.

1262
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:46,079
» Ah,

1263
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:49,200
» Yeah.

1264
00:52:46,079 --> 00:52:51,119
» Um, so

1265
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:53,359
believe me, the minute I hear, I will

1266
00:52:51,119 --> 00:52:55,599
let you all know and everyone know.

1267
00:52:53,359 --> 00:52:59,839
Okay. Um, next up, can I get a

1268
00:52:55,599 --> 00:53:01,760
resolution to hold a public meeting?

1269
00:52:59,839 --> 00:53:04,079
» Uh, we

1270
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:09,040
West End Bridge. Yes.

1271
00:53:04,079 --> 00:53:10,960
» Sorry. West End Bridge. Um, I we had a

1272
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:13,760
preliminary design meeting. I sent you

1273
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:18,720
the notes and the transcript.

1274
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:20,960
uh GPI which is the chosen um firm will

1275
00:53:18,720 --> 00:53:24,559
present to both the town board and the

1276
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:27,280
public at the November meeting. Um they

1277
00:53:24,559 --> 00:53:29,119
will be going through uh all the

1278
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:33,680
preliminary design work that they've

1279
00:53:29,119 --> 00:53:36,960
done. They will probably have an updated

1280
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:39,839
um cost analysis

1281
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:42,640
which will be interesting which I think

1282
00:53:39,839 --> 00:53:45,680
we will talk about again in uh our

1283
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:48,880
budget meeting uh with what Richard is

1284
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:53,400
saying about increase cost. You know we

1285
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:53,400
originally had a budget of 1.25.

1286
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:56,520
» Yeah.

1287
00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:00,559
» We shall see what they say. I'm just

1288
00:53:59,119 --> 00:54:02,240
» Now you see why some towns have

1289
00:54:00,559 --> 00:54:03,040
temporary bridges like the permanent

1290
00:54:02,240 --> 00:54:04,960
temporary one right

1291
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:06,720
» Back

1292
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:10,599
they just closed it there's a couple

1293
00:54:06,720 --> 00:54:10,599
bridges they've just closed ter

1294
00:54:11,839 --> 00:54:16,400
» Um

1295
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:19,520
» Yeah like three of them

1296
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:21,599
» Really is it's detrimental with the fire

1297
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:22,480
district

1298
00:54:21,599 --> 00:54:24,480
all the lines

1299
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:26,720
» Yeah well this is the one bridge we own

1300
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:27,920
and it's a major thoroughare not a m

1301
00:54:26,720 --> 00:54:29,440
it's not a major thorough affair but

1302
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:30,960
It's important.

1303
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:33,040
» No,

1304
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:34,400
I got

1305
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:34,800
» Is actually pretty major.

1306
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:35,680
» Yeah.

1307
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:37,440
» Oh, yeah. It is.

1308
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:40,000
» It really is. It really is because it

1309
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:41,760
would actually separate.

1310
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:43,920
» I mean, anybody on the other side would

1311
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:46,160
have to go all the way through back

1312
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:46,480
through into Martindale and come back

1313
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:46,960
around.

1314
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:49,200
» Yeah.

1315
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:52,720
» If Martinale's closed, I'd go that way.

1316
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:54,240
» Yeah. So, I look forward to DPI's

1317
00:54:52,720 --> 00:54:56,559
presentation. I've been very impressed

1318
00:54:54,240 --> 00:55:00,400
with the level of professionalism.

1319
00:54:56,559 --> 00:55:02,319
um like uh exhibited so far. I look

1320
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:06,480
forward to the board hearing from them

1321
00:55:02,319 --> 00:55:08,319
directly and to ask questions. So um

1322
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:11,920
please review the materials that have

1323
00:55:08,319 --> 00:55:16,800
been submitted so far and um we'll talk

1324
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:19,760
further in November. Uh okay. Uh, can I

1325
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:22,720
get a motion to pass a resolution to

1326
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:26,400
hold a public meeting

1327
00:55:22,720 --> 00:55:28,880
uh for local law 262 establishing income

1328
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:31,359
levels for senior citizens real property

1329
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:33,760
tax exemption on Tuesday, September 15th

1330
00:55:31,359 --> 00:55:37,040
at 6:45 p.m.

1331
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:40,240
» Council member Hernandez second

1332
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:44,000
uh Council Member Ziggler. Uh I'll just

1333
00:55:40,240 --> 00:55:48,000
uh uh uh preface this uh by saying this

1334
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:50,640
has been discussed at the county level

1335
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:54,240
and what we are proposing to do is to

1336
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:55,920
mirror what the county is doing. Um I

1337
00:55:54,240 --> 00:55:58,160
believe I've sent around an email where

1338
00:55:55,920 --> 00:56:01,599
the financial implications for Hillsdale

1339
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:03,760
are minimal but uh we can discuss this

1340
00:56:01,599 --> 00:56:06,880
at the public meeting.

1341
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:11,280
uh this basically has a new uh uh

1342
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:13,440
structure uh for the tax exemption.

1343
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:17,200
Uh but we'll be we will be discussing

1344
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:17,200
this more next meeting.

1345
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:21,920
my I have

1346
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:27,520
» I have um one question you might want to

1347
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:34,240
bring up with the uh the county council,

1348
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:37,839
» But if if you read um the state um

1349
00:56:34,240 --> 00:56:40,400
» Or if you read the state law, it says

1350
00:56:37,839 --> 00:56:42,480
» If the income quote if the income of the

1351
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:44,160
owner the combined income of the owners

1352
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:47,520
of the property for the applicable

1353
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:51,200
income tax year exceeds the sum of

1354
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:55,359
$3,000 there. Anyway, there's a section

1355
00:56:51,200 --> 00:57:00,960
that I think implies that the

1356
00:56:55,359 --> 00:57:03,920
um that the lowest amount is 3,000.

1357
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:07,440
So, where it says um I need to pull that

1358
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:11,440
back up. um

1359
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:14,880
where it says um

1360
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:17,119
it's just a a small detail, but

1361
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:19,040
» It says $45,000

1362
00:57:17,119 --> 00:57:22,319
or less.

1363
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:26,960
I'm not sure, but it might it might

1364
00:57:22,319 --> 00:57:30,720
actually be uh $45,000

1365
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:33,280
to $3,000. It's not actually to zero,

1366
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:35,040
» But I I'm not that has to be interpreted

1367
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:39,440
by an attorney.

1368
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:44,400
Okay. Um, great. Um, I will look at

1369
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:48,319
that. Uh, Ken has uh reviewed this uh

1370
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:50,079
did a initial review. Uh, he suggested

1371
00:57:48,319 --> 00:57:52,640
that we

1372
00:57:50,079 --> 00:57:57,280
mirror uh what the county and state are

1373
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:59,440
doing uh in our uh this will change uh

1374
00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:02,880
some of our

1375
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:04,799
uh local laws obviously. Uh but um I

1376
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:07,119
would take a look.

1377
00:58:04,799 --> 00:58:08,880
» So the the reason we're able to adopt

1378
00:58:07,119 --> 00:58:11,040
this and the reason the county is is

1379
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:11,920
because there's a state mandate for it.

1380
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:16,240
So

1381
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:17,280
» So I it was just unclear. Um

1382
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:20,319
» Okay.

1383
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:22,319
» And I think it's something that could be

1384
00:58:20,319 --> 00:58:26,559
missed, but anyway.

1385
00:58:22,319 --> 00:58:28,319
» Okay. Um, uh, if you would do me a favor

1386
00:58:26,559 --> 00:58:29,839
and you could if you could download that

1387
00:58:28,319 --> 00:58:31,520
and

1388
00:58:29,839 --> 00:58:34,720
somehow highlight that or I can call you

1389
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:36,400
tomorrow and we can talk. But, uh, um,

1390
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:37,200
that would be great. Thank you.

1391
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:39,119
» Sure.

1392
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:42,000
» Um, all in favor of holding the public

1393
00:58:39,119 --> 00:58:46,000
meeting. Uh, Hernandez, Devorech,

1394
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:49,920
Ziggler, Feld, and Coron or Fund.

1395
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:53,359
Unanimous. Thank you. Um and uh next up

1396
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:55,920
is a resolution to hold a public meeting

1397
00:58:53,359 --> 00:58:58,319
for local law three establishing incomes

1398
00:58:55,920 --> 00:59:01,200
for disabled and lowincome real property

1399
00:58:58,319 --> 00:59:03,920
tax exemption on Tuesday, September 15th

1400
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:05,520
at 6:55 p.m. Can I get a motion, please?

1401
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:07,760
Supervisor Hernandez, can I get a

1402
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:10,400
second, please?

1403
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:12,799
» Supervisor Ziggler. Supervisor Council

1404
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:16,319
Member Ziggler.

1405
00:59:12,799 --> 00:59:19,440
Um any further discussion? Uh this is

1406
00:59:16,319 --> 00:59:20,319
just basically the same law for

1407
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:21,599
» Yeah.

1408
00:59:20,319 --> 00:59:23,920
» Yeah.

1409
00:59:21,599 --> 00:59:26,319
» Hearing none. All in favor? Uh

1410
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:28,799
Hernandez, Devortch, Vigler,

1411
00:59:26,319 --> 00:59:31,799
» Bel and

1412
00:59:28,799 --> 00:59:31,799
Corona.

1413
00:59:32,079 --> 00:59:36,240
» Just muting.

1414
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:37,599
» Oh, you mute. You muted, Amy. Jamie.

1415
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:41,040
» Yeah, I'm pulling [clears throat] I'm

1416
00:59:37,599 --> 00:59:44,640
pulling it up. So, sorry it's um loading

1417
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:48,200
here. I just wanted to look at it um one

1418
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:48,200
last time here.

1419
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:56,160
» Um

1420
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:57,119
yeah. Okay.

1421
00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:59,680
Hi.

1422
00:59:57,119 --> 01:00:02,559
» Okay. Thank you. Unanimous.

1423
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:06,480
» Uh next up, um I'm noticing a typo here.

1424
01:00:02,559 --> 01:00:07,839
Um um of the Hamlet Park. Bart, did you

1425
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:10,480
want to put forward this resolution?

1426
01:00:07,839 --> 01:00:11,599
» Uh yes. This is Oh, we're doing

1427
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:12,079
evolution, right?

1428
01:00:11,599 --> 01:00:14,319
» Yeah.

1429
01:00:12,079 --> 01:00:18,440
» Yes. Um I'm describing it.

1430
01:00:14,319 --> 01:00:18,440
» Yeah. Just read what's on there.

1431
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:26,480
» Okay. Resolution XXX. However,

1432
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:29,480
» 2026 accepted from Mankind LLC for

1433
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:29,480
163,616.25

1434
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:34,079
for construction of the Hammond Park

1435
01:00:32,079 --> 01:00:35,839
band shell.

1436
01:00:34,079 --> 01:00:38,319
Uh

1437
01:00:35,839 --> 01:00:40,960
uh I'll put forward that motion and then

1438
01:00:38,319 --> 01:00:42,960
uh supervisor Hernandez

1439
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:43,680
council member

1440
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:45,440
give everybody

1441
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:47,119
» Not going to give anyone else to drive.

1442
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:50,960
» Yeah.

1443
01:00:47,119 --> 01:00:54,720
» Next year next year. Next year

1444
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:58,480
no uh Bart put forward the res. Yeah, I

1445
01:00:54,720 --> 01:01:01,920
made the motion and uh uh council member

1446
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:03,280
Hernandez seconded it. Okay. uh parts

1447
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:04,319
that you put forward the resolution. Do

1448
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:05,920
you want to speak to this first?

1449
01:01:04,319 --> 01:01:08,640
» Uh yeah, this is just in case people

1450
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:12,400
aren't aware. This is for the assembling

1451
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:15,760
of the kit. We now have for the banshe

1452
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:19,599
arrived a couple weeks ago and uh the

1453
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:23,920
foundation all the assembly. Um and we

1454
01:01:19,599 --> 01:01:27,440
uh got two bids and one was $163,000

1455
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:29,280
approximately. Other was 172. Um so

1456
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:31,040
we're going with the lower priced one as

1457
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:35,200
is usually the case.

1458
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:38,000
Uh and we had the town uh engineers CPL

1459
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:39,839
take a look at the bids uh and they are

1460
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:41,839
fine with the lower price one. They say

1461
01:01:39,839 --> 01:01:44,319
it seemed the company seems to be

1462
01:01:41,839 --> 01:01:46,319
reputable rep good uh you know

1463
01:01:44,319 --> 01:01:48,000
qualifications from elsewhere and so

1464
01:01:46,319 --> 01:01:50,400
that's the one we think we should go

1465
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:51,359
with.

1466
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:52,640
» Yeah. I think it's a really good thing

1467
01:01:51,359 --> 01:01:54,400
that both bids are pretty close

1468
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:56,079
together. That's a good sign that you're

1469
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:57,200
getting towards an honest number. So

1470
01:01:56,079 --> 01:01:57,680
seems good.

1471
01:01:57,200 --> 01:01:59,280
» Yeah.

1472
01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:01,280
» Yeah.

1473
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:05,520
Barb, can you remind us what is the

1474
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:08,160
total project budget and and um where

1475
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:09,599
how are we financing this? Just if you

1476
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:12,240
could

1477
01:02:09,599 --> 01:02:15,440
» Yeah. Well, we're now up to uh a little

1478
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:19,040
over $100,000 $200,000. The uh cost of

1479
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:21,280
the kit was about $50,000

1480
01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:23,839
» And they're now doing 163. So that's

1481
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:24,720
what uh 13.

1482
01:02:23,839 --> 01:02:28,319
» Yeah.

1483
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:30,880
» Um and we have several grants. are

1484
01:02:28,319 --> 01:02:33,680
paying for it. We uh last year we got

1485
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:35,920
$80,000 from Rank Stern Hill Community

1486
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:39,440
Foundation. Uh this year we got an

1487
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:44,480
additional $45,000 from them and then we

1488
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:46,559
got 20,000 from the HR&T Foundation. And

1489
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:48,799
then as you'll see on the next item in

1490
01:02:46,559 --> 01:02:51,839
the agenda, we're asking Rhinest

1491
01:02:48,799 --> 01:02:53,599
Foundation to reallocate $12,000 that

1492
01:02:51,839 --> 01:02:55,440
was going towards this transportation

1493
01:02:53,599 --> 01:02:59,359
program. We're planning on linking up

1494
01:02:55,440 --> 01:03:01,839
the uh South County Transportation uh uh

1495
01:02:59,359 --> 01:03:03,599
system in uh Great Barington, but that's

1496
01:03:01,839 --> 01:03:06,240
not going to happen. They're a bit of

1497
01:03:03,599 --> 01:03:08,960
disarray at this point. They recently uh

1498
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:11,183
the man running the thing quit or left

1499
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:11,280
were going for the job. Yeah.

1500
01:03:11,183 --> 01:03:13,599
[clears throat]

1501
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:19,039
» Yeah. Okay. So that's that's

1502
01:03:13,599 --> 01:03:21,920
» And also there is a u uh uh $4,000 from

1503
01:03:19,039 --> 01:03:25,200
the flea market revenues in addition to

1504
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:27,280
a reserve of8

1505
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:32,079
group $85,000

1506
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:35,440
from the subdivision fee. So uh that

1507
01:03:32,079 --> 01:03:39,920
would put us uh some quick math about

1508
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:43,280
two 60. So we would still have about $40

1509
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:47,039
to $50,000 in that reserve which is

1510
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:47,760
earmarked for Hamlet for park

1511
01:03:47,039 --> 01:03:48,960
» Improvements.

1512
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:51,680
» Improvements.

1513
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:54,240
» So I was c I was counting these numbers

1514
01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:57,280
up but I mean I got a number much

1515
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:58,720
bigger. So So what is the total project

1516
01:03:57,280 --> 01:03:59,520
number?

1517
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:00,079
» 213.

1518
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:03,599
» 213

1519
01:04:00,079 --> 01:04:05,760
» 213 but the numbers you gave me are like

1520
01:04:03,599 --> 01:04:07,920
426.

1521
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:09,359
And we were just listing the uh listen

1522
01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:12,480
the grants grants. We have

1523
01:04:09,359 --> 01:04:14,240
» The grants to offset the 213.

1524
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:19,440
» So we have been uh

1525
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:23,119
» So you have double the grants

1526
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:26,160
» Money from the total.

1527
01:04:23,119 --> 01:04:29,920
» No. Uh Bart go through this. It's 80K

1528
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:31,280
from Rystrom, 45K from Rhinestrom,

1529
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:32,720
» 20 from HRB,

1530
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:33,920
» 20 from HRB.

1531
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:34,400
» 20. Okay.

1532
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:38,640
» Yeah.

1533
01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:42,079
» Two zero. had in 12K from Rhinestrom.

1534
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:45,359
Uh we just call it 5K from the flea

1535
01:04:42,079 --> 01:04:48,400
market and then 85K

1536
01:04:45,359 --> 01:04:50,319
uh from the uh the reserve fund.

1537
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:51,920
» Okay. And we still

1538
01:04:50,319 --> 01:04:54,319
» Just so you know, we did pass a

1539
01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:57,520
resolution at the special meeting to a

1540
01:04:54,319 --> 01:05:00,559
to ask HRBT for additional funds

1541
01:04:57,520 --> 01:05:04,480
» For this also. So,

1542
01:05:00,559 --> 01:05:06,640
» Okay. So, we're still we're still over.

1543
01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:07,920
You said the total project budget was

1544
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:09,280
213.

1545
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:12,079
» Yeah, we're over

1546
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:14,319
» We're we're over

1547
01:05:12,079 --> 01:05:14,720
» It's 246.

1548
01:05:14,319 --> 01:05:17,720
» No.

1549
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:17,720
» Yeah.

1550
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:23,599
» The total of those numbers you gave me

1551
01:05:20,319 --> 01:05:25,039
were was 246 or was it

1552
01:05:23,599 --> 01:05:27,039
» That's [clears throat] was the last

1553
01:05:25,039 --> 01:05:29,599
number 85 or 8500?

1554
01:05:27,039 --> 01:05:31,520
» It's available money. It doesn't mean

1555
01:05:29,599 --> 01:05:34,799
we're going to spend it.

1556
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:38,240
I I understand that. But usually like

1557
01:05:34,799 --> 01:05:42,880
you you understand specifically how a

1558
01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:44,880
project is funded before you approve.

1559
01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:45,920
» It's fully funded with the grants

1560
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:47,760
listed.

1561
01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:50,559
» Can I explain? We went into this knowing

1562
01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:52,480
we have $85,000 in a park fund that can

1563
01:05:50,559 --> 01:05:54,079
only be used for projects such as this.

1564
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:55,760
But we did not want to spend all that.

1565
01:05:54,079 --> 01:05:58,000
So we went out and raised money from

1566
01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:58,240
foundations and we were very successful.

1567
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:01,200
Right.

1568
01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:03,359
» So, we're only using a tiny bit of that

1569
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:04,880
» Other reserve park money

1570
01:06:03,359 --> 01:06:06,240
» To go towards this. And if we're more

1571
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:08,000
successful in getting our additional

1572
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:10,400
money, we're asking for more from one of

1573
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:11,920
the f one of the funders, HRBT. We may

1574
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:12,960
not have to take any money out of that

1575
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:17,200
fund.

1576
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:18,480
» Right. So, we have the 213 covered with

1577
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:20,400
non- taxpayer money.

1578
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:21,920
» Yeah. Correct. And none of this we're

1579
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:25,440
talking about is taxpayer money, not the

1580
01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:28,400
85,000 park fun.

1581
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:30,799
It's all public money when you receive

1582
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:33,680
private grants. It's public money. So

1583
01:06:30,799 --> 01:06:37,839
whether or not it's from tax property

1584
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:40,319
tax revenue or not, but I I I just I

1585
01:06:37,839 --> 01:06:42,640
think when we do projects this size,

1586
01:06:40,319 --> 01:06:46,160
it's important that [clears throat] we

1587
01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:48,319
have a budget a total project budget in

1588
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:49,200
real time that is published as part of

1589
01:06:48,319 --> 01:06:51,280
the public record.

1590
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:54,240
» Please review the

1591
01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:55,920
has been discussed. We we B has

1592
01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:59,359
presented budgets.

1593
01:06:55,920 --> 01:07:02,799
» Uh we kept track of the I presented a

1594
01:06:59,359 --> 01:07:05,119
spreadsheet. Uh uh this is again we're

1595
01:07:02,799 --> 01:07:06,480
still within yes the branch cost more

1596
01:07:05,119 --> 01:07:08,960
than we initially thought but we're

1597
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:10,160
still within

1598
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:13,359
» The realm of

1599
01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:16,400
» I I obviously obviously the funding is

1600
01:07:13,359 --> 01:07:18,640
available but you know we I think we

1601
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:20,559
should have a pretty specific idea of

1602
01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:23,359
exactly where the money is coming from

1603
01:07:20,559 --> 01:07:25,039
and if there is any balance of course

1604
01:07:23,359 --> 01:07:28,240
that money can be used for other

1605
01:07:25,039 --> 01:07:30,880
projects. Yeah, agree. But

1606
01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:31,440
» But we should have some idea of that,

1607
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:33,680
you know.

1608
01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:36,160
» Well, until the bids were in, we didn't

1609
01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:38,880
have a solid number, but we, you know,

1610
01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:42,079
we we had a an estimate that was

1611
01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:45,280
considering the rising cost and

1612
01:07:42,079 --> 01:07:47,680
» The model that we used uh might not have

1613
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:49,680
been up to the state standards that

1614
01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:54,000
Hillsdale is

1615
01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:56,160
» Using. So, uh that was initially under

1616
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:58,720
budgeted. The good news is that we have

1617
01:07:56,160 --> 01:08:00,000
the funds to cover this.

1618
01:07:58,720 --> 01:08:00,799
» Okay, great.

1619
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:02,400
» Okay,

1620
01:08:00,799 --> 01:08:04,000
» Thank you.

1621
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:06,640
» Yeah, congrats.

1622
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:08,640
» Uh, all in favor of accepting the bid

1623
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:10,319
from Man, not Man,

1624
01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:12,799
» I

1625
01:08:10,319 --> 01:08:16,319
Hernandez, Devorech, Ziggler, FEL, and

1626
01:08:12,799 --> 01:08:18,560
Corona Nordstrom. Okay, great. Uh, we

1627
01:08:16,319 --> 01:08:21,359
can contact them tomorrow and try to get

1628
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:22,880
on their schedule ASAP. Uh,

1629
01:08:21,359 --> 01:08:26,319
» I'll do that.

1630
01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:28,640
» Great. Um, next up is a resolution uh

1631
01:08:26,319 --> 01:08:32,080
requesting the Rinstream Foundation to

1632
01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:34,640
re reallocate the the $12,000 initially

1633
01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:36,159
awarded to the transportation program to

1634
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:39,199
the construction of the band. So, can I

1635
01:08:36,159 --> 01:08:43,120
get a motion, please? Hernandez and

1636
01:08:39,199 --> 01:08:47,520
Ziggler. Um, Bon mentioned this before,

1637
01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:49,920
the uh unfortunately uh the South

1638
01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:52,480
Connector is going through some things.

1639
01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:55,920
Um uh you can read more about the

1640
01:08:52,480 --> 01:09:00,159
situation in the Berkshire paper. Um

1641
01:08:55,920 --> 01:09:02,000
very unfortunate um but

1642
01:09:00,159 --> 01:09:06,000
that we will not be able to proceed with

1643
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:08,719
the the um transportation grant. Uh I

1644
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:10,960
oddly enough I was in a meeting budget

1645
01:09:08,719 --> 01:09:12,640
meeting uh at Columbia County and I did

1646
01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:14,239
mention you know we're still interested

1647
01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:16,319
in the transportation program in

1648
01:09:14,239 --> 01:09:18,640
Columbia County but you know this

1649
01:09:16,319 --> 01:09:23,120
particular realm is is not going to

1650
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:26,480
proceed. So uh we are proposing to

1651
01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:30,080
reallocate the funds already awarded to

1652
01:09:26,480 --> 01:09:32,400
Hillsdale to the band shell

1653
01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:36,080
and that's the story.

1654
01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:40,000
» Yeah. So I think in this case like I

1655
01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:44,960
think um it's it's hard to vote to

1656
01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:47,679
approve this when we again like don't we

1657
01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:50,480
we don't know exactly what is funding

1658
01:09:47,679 --> 01:09:51,920
it. So we wouldn't want to re I mean

1659
01:09:50,480 --> 01:09:53,759
we've done this before where we

1660
01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:57,040
reallocate something and it doesn't make

1661
01:09:53,759 --> 01:09:59,600
sense to reallocate it. So

1662
01:09:57,040 --> 01:10:01,920
um it would just be nice to to see

1663
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:02,960
exactly

1664
01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:04,239
um

1665
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:07,199
» Going towards the bench

1666
01:10:04,239 --> 01:10:11,840
» What what is what is actually needed for

1667
01:10:07,199 --> 01:10:14,480
the for this uh project

1668
01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:19,280
» 23 $23,000

1669
01:10:14,480 --> 01:10:21,840
and and is the total um we have raised a

1670
01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:25,679
total of

1671
01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:31,280
145 in grants we are proposing we add

1672
01:10:25,679 --> 01:10:34,400
$12,000 to that to bring it to 157. The

1673
01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:37,920
def the uh remaining cost will be paid

1674
01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:40,640
for by an existing reserve fund

1675
01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:42,159
specifically earmarked for Hamlet Park

1676
01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:46,000
improvements.

1677
01:10:42,159 --> 01:10:47,679
So I am in favor and another five of

1678
01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:50,880
flea market

1679
01:10:47,679 --> 01:10:52,640
» Revenue and I can Yeah.

1680
01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:55,120
» Okay. Uh

1681
01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:57,040
» Yeah, it's just different than what

1682
01:10:55,120 --> 01:10:58,960
those are different numbers from what we

1683
01:10:57,040 --> 01:11:00,080
just reviewed, but it's

1684
01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:01,600
» They're the same.

1685
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:04,679
» Okay.

1686
01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:04,679
» All right.

1687
01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:13,239
» Um all in favor, uh Hernandez Dvorch,

1688
01:11:10,239 --> 01:11:13,239
Ziggler,

1689
01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:20,719
» Here. Uh all against

1690
01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:21,280
» I'm going to abstain just

1691
01:11:20,719 --> 01:11:22,960
» Okay

1692
01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:27,280
» Based on these details.

1693
01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:30,640
» Thank you. Uh Jamie, uh next up is the

1694
01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:33,840
um CSC CEC task force.

1695
01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:35,840
» I was I wasn't present if there was

1696
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:38,640
» All right. Um

1697
01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:40,800
uh then do you want to speak to the

1698
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:41,360
comprehensive plan update or do you want

1699
01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:42,640
me to do that?

1700
01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:44,080
» Uh you can.

1701
01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:46,320
» Okay. Um,

1702
01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:47,840
» Are you skipping the Revolutionary War?

1703
01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:49,360
» Oh,

1704
01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:52,080
yeah.

1705
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:52,880
Uh, let's do the Revolutionary War.

1706
01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:55,440
Okay.

1707
01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:58,080
» Uh, it's right after

1708
01:11:55,440 --> 01:12:00,880
» War number 14.

1709
01:11:58,080 --> 01:12:02,800
» Was it you updated?

1710
01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:03,440
» He must have something.

1711
01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:04,880
» Yeah,

1712
01:12:03,440 --> 01:12:05,760
» This isn't on the This is from the

1713
01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:08,080
website.

1714
01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:10,159
» No, but if you you click here on the

1715
01:12:08,080 --> 01:12:13,120
updated, that's always the Oh, you're

1716
01:12:10,159 --> 01:12:15,920
right. Yeah, this that we added at noon

1717
01:12:13,120 --> 01:12:17,199
uh yesterday uh because the historic

1718
01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:20,159
committee met

1719
01:12:17,199 --> 01:12:24,000
» At noon on Monday

1720
01:12:20,159 --> 01:12:25,280
uh and they are uh I believe Bart and

1721
01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:27,920
Irwin

1722
01:12:25,280 --> 01:12:29,840
» Attended as liaison. Bart and Irwin, do

1723
01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:31,760
you want to speak to the historic

1724
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:32,719
committee meeting?

1725
01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:35,360
» Is this a resolution?

1726
01:12:32,719 --> 01:12:37,920
» Since Bart does it may not uh drop out

1727
01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:38,480
with the internet. Let him go for it.

1728
01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:40,960
» Okay.

1729
01:12:38,480 --> 01:12:43,760
» Okay. Uh well this is my first meeting

1730
01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:46,080
on this so I'm know no expert at all but

1731
01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:49,679
this is this uh the our official

1732
01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:52,560
historic hillsdale group wants to uh

1733
01:12:49,679 --> 01:12:56,239
clean the headstones and put in signage

1734
01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:58,960
in several town uh cemeteries town and

1735
01:12:56,239 --> 01:13:02,080
non-town cemeteries that had the graves

1736
01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:05,360
of revolutionary war uh soldiers. Uh

1737
01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:07,920
obviously this is part of the 250 uh

1738
01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:08,880
anniversary in this country and um

1739
01:13:07,920 --> 01:13:12,159
» Yeah that's okay.

1740
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:15,520
» This will be entirely funded by sales of

1741
01:13:12,159 --> 01:13:18,239
the book the start book that uh

1742
01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:18,640
» Uh what is her first name? Kayla Key

1743
01:13:18,239 --> 01:13:19,360
» Jean

1744
01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:21,440
» Jean Jean

1745
01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:24,000
» Wrote uh about many of these soldiers

1746
01:13:21,440 --> 01:13:25,520
families in their lives.

1747
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:27,520
Yeah, they've raised a good amount of

1748
01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:29,600
money from 2000.

1749
01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:32,000
» They sold a lot of books for like 3,000.

1750
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:32,640
» 3,000 which would at 25 bucks a pop.

1751
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:34,000
» Yeah,

1752
01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:35,920
» That's right. If you don't have the

1753
01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:37,120
book, I highly recommend it.

1754
01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:38,880
» It's very well done.

1755
01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:41,520
» Yeah, great tales.

1756
01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:43,840
» Um, so

1757
01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:45,520
asked us to put forward a resolution

1758
01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:47,280
authorizing the Revolutionary War

1759
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:50,239
veteran headstone cleaning and signage

1760
01:13:47,280 --> 01:13:51,199
project in commemoration of the 250 50th

1761
01:13:50,239 --> 01:13:54,080
anniversary of the American

1762
01:13:51,199 --> 01:13:55,760
Revolutionary War. And this will occur

1763
01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:59,840
uh they have to buy the cleaning

1764
01:13:55,760 --> 01:14:03,120
equipment uh in the midfall, late fall,

1765
01:13:59,840 --> 01:14:04,960
october, November. And uh we would be

1766
01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:07,920
sanctioning this as a town event. So it

1767
01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:09,120
would be covered under town policy. Our

1768
01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:11,520
confederate soldiers on

1769
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:13,280
» They already

1770
01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:14,719
they already have more than enough

1771
01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:18,000
volunteers.

1772
01:14:14,719 --> 01:14:19,280
» Yeah. Uh Lauren has more than enough

1773
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:22,000
volunteers to

1774
01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:24,320
» War.

1775
01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:25,280
Okay. [laughter]

1776
01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:27,440
Yeah.

1777
01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:29,199
» Win is this the signage that you

1778
01:14:27,440 --> 01:14:30,239
presented at the last meeting? Was it

1779
01:14:29,199 --> 01:14:32,000
the last?

1780
01:14:30,239 --> 01:14:34,800
» No, no, no, no, no. This is really

1781
01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:37,760
mostly about the cleaning of the graves.

1782
01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:39,600
Um, and Jean had identified most of the

1783
01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:42,320
graves that were still allegible, but

1784
01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:45,760
Lauren was meeting somebody from the D

1785
01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:50,640
today to go to North Hillsdale to the

1786
01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:53,840
cemetery on 21 and 22

1787
01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:57,040
to further investigate there. So, we

1788
01:14:53,840 --> 01:15:00,000
have a complete number before we go in

1789
01:14:57,040 --> 01:15:03,120
and we know how much solution to

1790
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:06,560
purchase. Uh, it seems like it's a very

1791
01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:09,679
simple process. it gets sprayed on. Uh

1792
01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:12,640
you leave it uh rain and whatever do

1793
01:15:09,679 --> 01:15:16,480
what they do. And I suggested that we do

1794
01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:19,440
a test sample of one stone although that

1795
01:15:16,480 --> 01:15:20,960
may not be partic completely indicative

1796
01:15:19,440 --> 01:15:25,440
because they are made of different

1797
01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:27,920
stones. Uh just to see the process and

1798
01:15:25,440 --> 01:15:30,000
uh

1799
01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:31,520
that's pretty much it. It's it's

1800
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:35,040
actually [snorts] very clean and it's

1801
01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:37,440
very uh Lauren had sent the information

1802
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:41,040
on the uh the two products that are

1803
01:15:37,440 --> 01:15:43,280
approved to do this and we chose one one

1804
01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:46,000
yesterday.

1805
01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:48,480
» Yeah. And and Jean uh sent me an email

1806
01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:51,360
asking for information about who to

1807
01:15:48,480 --> 01:15:55,239
contact for the big cemeteries, not the

1808
01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:55,239
ones. So I guess

1809
01:15:55,360 --> 01:16:01,600
» The second part of it is to create

1810
01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:04,000
signage for a small sign for and we we

1811
01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:06,960
decided I think yesterday 8 by 10 was a

1812
01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:08,560
good size uh for each individual

1813
01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:10,640
cemetery

1814
01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:13,760
uh to list the names of the soldiers

1815
01:16:10,640 --> 01:16:16,480
that are in there because uh we know

1816
01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:19,920
that they're there but we don't

1817
01:16:16,480 --> 01:16:24,159
necessarily know where uh over time

1818
01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:26,880
either erosion or you know just stones

1819
01:16:24,159 --> 01:16:28,480
falling over into the ground. Uh so we

1820
01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:30,719
know certain people are there but we

1821
01:16:28,480 --> 01:16:33,520
can't actually mark their graves. So

1822
01:16:30,719 --> 01:16:38,480
they want to do a general

1823
01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:40,320
um sign for each one of them uh that

1824
01:16:38,480 --> 01:16:43,360
will identify the people that are in

1825
01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:45,120
there. Irwin

1826
01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:47,600
um

1827
01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:50,880
uh

1828
01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:54,080
did was there a consideration that um

1829
01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:57,600
historically like women weren't included

1830
01:16:54,080 --> 01:17:00,480
in lists um or as enlisted

1831
01:16:57,600 --> 01:17:04,239
uh persons during this time.

1832
01:17:00,480 --> 01:17:06,640
» Uh I really cannot speak to that.

1833
01:17:04,239 --> 01:17:09,440
» Okay. because that is uh something

1834
01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:13,199
that's brought up and in state, you

1835
01:17:09,440 --> 01:17:15,600
know, um historic site signage that

1836
01:17:13,199 --> 01:17:17,920
» The people who we know actually fought

1837
01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:19,040
in the revolution and there are 72 of

1838
01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:20,960
them in Hillsdale,

1839
01:17:19,040 --> 01:17:23,199
» Right? But that but that list is all

1840
01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:23,760
men, right?

1841
01:17:23,199 --> 01:17:25,280
» Correct.

1842
01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:27,600
» All white men.

1843
01:17:25,280 --> 01:17:29,120
» These are people who served in the

1844
01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:33,360
military,

1845
01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:36,320
» Right? So I think um what what u

1846
01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:39,199
historians are considering now is adding

1847
01:17:36,320 --> 01:17:41,760
additional people to those lists who may

1848
01:17:39,199 --> 01:17:44,000
have not been intentionally may have not

1849
01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:48,719
been documented at that time but

1850
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:50,960
participated in um on the battlefields.

1851
01:17:48,719 --> 01:17:53,440
If you were if you were a nurse in the

1852
01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:55,199
American re if you were a female in the

1853
01:17:53,440 --> 01:17:58,320
American Revolution and you were a

1854
01:17:55,199 --> 01:18:01,679
nurse, you were not counted for an

1855
01:17:58,320 --> 01:18:03,760
official documentation.

1856
01:18:01,679 --> 01:18:06,560
» I think if you were

1857
01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:10,719
» If you anyway it's a it's a

1858
01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:13,960
» It's a issue that comes up with um in

1859
01:18:10,719 --> 01:18:13,960
this context.

1860
01:18:14,080 --> 01:18:19,120
» Yeah. Black Americans and women were not

1861
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:20,719
in included in those lists, but are were

1862
01:18:19,120 --> 01:18:23,840
often fought

1863
01:18:20,719 --> 01:18:27,679
» Or um participated

1864
01:18:23,840 --> 01:18:30,000
» Side by side with something.

1865
01:18:27,679 --> 01:18:32,320
» Yeah.

1866
01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:35,679
» I know she's working with the D who the

1867
01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:37,679
ones certify this. Um you can't just you

1868
01:18:35,679 --> 01:18:39,440
know you need actual certification.

1869
01:18:37,679 --> 01:18:40,320
These are the people that are there to

1870
01:18:39,440 --> 01:18:42,239
bring up assignments.

1871
01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:44,400
» Yeah, this is a good point to bring up

1872
01:18:42,239 --> 01:18:46,239
uh as we're doing this. So, thank you.

1873
01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:47,600
» Yeah.

1874
01:18:46,239 --> 01:18:50,800
Uh, you need a motion.

1875
01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:53,280
» Uh, no. I think the motion has been a

1876
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:56,000
motion. Uh, okay. Can I get a motion?

1877
01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:57,760
Hernandez and Ziggler.

1878
01:18:56,000 --> 01:19:00,880
» Uh, we kind of had the discussion

1879
01:18:57,760 --> 01:19:04,159
period. Any further discussion?

1880
01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:05,840
Uh, all in favor? Hernandez, Ziggler.

1881
01:19:04,159 --> 01:19:07,440
Unanimous.

1882
01:19:05,840 --> 01:19:09,600
» Bel.

1883
01:19:07,440 --> 01:19:10,960
Okay. Thank you. So, thank you to uh the

1884
01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:12,880
historic committee, Lauren, and

1885
01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:16,480
especially Jean Kever, who is very

1886
01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:18,880
passionate about this. Um, next up, can

1887
01:19:16,480 --> 01:19:20,480
I get a resolution to reappoint Mary

1888
01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:24,400
King to the

1889
01:19:20,480 --> 01:19:27,199
» No. Oh, comprehensive plan. Sorry.

1890
01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:28,800
» No, I I I went back.

1891
01:19:27,199 --> 01:19:30,960
» Um,

1892
01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:33,199
I forwarded on to the board that we did

1893
01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:37,679
here from New York State. I did uh talk

1894
01:19:33,199 --> 01:19:39,920
to uh Jamie also. Um

1895
01:19:37,679 --> 01:19:42,960
uh I have also forwarded the contract

1896
01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:45,600
for the comprehensive plan to Kand Dao

1897
01:19:42,960 --> 01:19:48,159
who is going to review this. It's pretty

1898
01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:50,159
you know what the state says the state

1899
01:19:48,159 --> 01:19:52,880
says but he's he's going to take a look

1900
01:19:50,159 --> 01:19:54,800
at it. Um

1901
01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:58,880
the preliminary comprehensive plan

1902
01:19:54,800 --> 01:20:03,199
committee um Michael Toth I believe had

1903
01:19:58,880 --> 01:20:07,520
knee surgery this week. Uh, so the time

1904
01:20:03,199 --> 01:20:10,719
frame is fall. Uh, I leave it to Nico

1905
01:20:07,520 --> 01:20:12,640
and Jamie and Michael and Gretchen and

1906
01:20:10,719 --> 01:20:15,600
Steve Tiger I also forwarded to because

1907
01:20:12,640 --> 01:20:18,560
there's a lot of uh, MWBE

1908
01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:20,800
stuff contained, but it's very exciting

1909
01:20:18,560 --> 01:20:24,080
that we are about to begin this process.

1910
01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:28,000
So, I want to thank everyone involved

1911
01:20:24,080 --> 01:20:32,320
and I look forward to gaining

1912
01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:37,360
input from everyone in the community.

1913
01:20:32,320 --> 01:20:40,880
So, onward. Um, okay.

1914
01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:42,320
» Yes. Can I get a motion to reappoint

1915
01:20:40,880 --> 01:20:44,480
Mary King to the Columbia County

1916
01:20:42,320 --> 01:20:46,000
Environmental Management Council?

1917
01:20:44,480 --> 01:20:48,000
» Make a motion.

1918
01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:50,640
» I'll second it.

1919
01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:53,120
» Hernandez and Fel.

1920
01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:55,199
Um,

1921
01:20:53,120 --> 01:20:57,199
she has been ablely serving for many

1922
01:20:55,199 --> 01:21:01,280
term, two-year terms now.

1923
01:20:57,199 --> 01:21:04,239
» Yeah. Has Mary uh requested this?

1924
01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:06,480
» Uh I reached out to her and she uh

1925
01:21:04,239 --> 01:21:09,679
agreed to serve another

1926
01:21:06,480 --> 01:21:11,040
» React. So this would now be picked up to

1927
01:21:09,679 --> 01:21:13,199
the county level and then they would

1928
01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:14,800
formally approve. But we have to do

1929
01:21:13,199 --> 01:21:15,280
that.

1930
01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:17,920
» Okay.

1931
01:21:15,280 --> 01:21:20,640
» So all in favor

1932
01:21:17,920 --> 01:21:24,000
um uh

1933
01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:26,719
okay unanimous. Thank you. Uh, next up

1934
01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:28,880
is a resolution to appoint Kevin Hines

1935
01:21:26,719 --> 01:21:31,600
as an al alternate to the planning

1936
01:21:28,880 --> 01:21:35,120
board. We've been looking for alternates

1937
01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:37,760
for a long time now.

1938
01:21:35,120 --> 01:21:39,679
Um, can I get a motion please? Hernandez

1939
01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:41,199
and

1940
01:21:39,679 --> 01:21:44,600
» Second

1941
01:21:41,199 --> 01:21:44,600
» I guess not.

1942
01:21:45,360 --> 01:21:48,360
» Um,

1943
01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:52,320
any further discussion?

1944
01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:53,840
» Yes.

1945
01:21:52,320 --> 01:21:57,040
Yeah.

1946
01:21:53,840 --> 01:21:59,040
» Oh, I'm sorry.

1947
01:21:57,040 --> 01:22:00,239
» Is there someone else speaking?

1948
01:21:59,040 --> 01:22:05,920
» No, go ahead.

1949
01:22:00,239 --> 01:22:09,199
» Okay. Um, so I encountered uh when I was

1950
01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:12,800
looking at this, I encountered a

1951
01:22:09,199 --> 01:22:17,280
a potential issue that is that I don't

1952
01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:20,639
think we have a law that actually um

1953
01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:22,960
forms our planning board.

1954
01:22:20,639 --> 01:22:26,159
I don't think we have a local law that

1955
01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:28,800
actually defines the formation of our

1956
01:22:26,159 --> 01:22:34,199
own planning board

1957
01:22:28,800 --> 01:22:34,199
and I think that is required by

1958
01:22:35,132 --> 01:22:37,520
[sighs]

1959
01:22:35,280 --> 01:22:38,480
» Let me

1960
01:22:37,520 --> 01:22:40,239
do

1961
01:22:38,480 --> 01:22:43,880
» Um set up

1962
01:22:40,239 --> 01:22:43,880
» Section 271

1963
01:22:44,320 --> 01:22:49,360
um

1964
01:22:47,280 --> 01:22:51,679
See

1965
01:22:49,360 --> 01:22:53,472
Tom municipal law. So it's it's called

1966
01:22:51,679 --> 01:22:55,492
planning board creation appointment.

1967
01:22:53,472 --> 01:22:55,492
[clears throat]

1968
01:22:57,280 --> 01:23:05,120
It's under section 271. Um

1969
01:23:01,280 --> 01:23:07,520
so from the way I read it we I mean

1970
01:23:05,120 --> 01:23:09,920
maybe we have been appointing alternates

1971
01:23:07,520 --> 01:23:13,040
every once in a while. Uh but I don't

1972
01:23:09,920 --> 01:23:15,520
think I didn't have a law.

1973
01:23:13,040 --> 01:23:18,080
» We do have a law that that created and

1974
01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:20,320
it happened in my term first term I

1975
01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:22,639
think or actually the year term before

1976
01:23:20,320 --> 01:23:25,840
that when Steve was on the board where

1977
01:23:22,639 --> 01:23:27,840
we created two alternatives alternates

1978
01:23:25,840 --> 01:23:30,400
for the planning board and the zoning

1979
01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:34,480
board. So it's a law.

1980
01:23:30,400 --> 01:23:36,400
» Yeah. No, but so uh maybe but I don't

1981
01:23:34,480 --> 01:23:39,760
see it in our e-code or

1982
01:23:36,400 --> 01:23:41,120
» It's not a maybe. It is. So, um, it's

1983
01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:43,760
possible we don't

1984
01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:44,719
» I mean, if you search our e-code, it's

1985
01:23:43,760 --> 01:23:46,560
not there.

1986
01:23:44,719 --> 01:23:48,960
» It's possible that the prior

1987
01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:51,679
administrations didn't keep a copy that

1988
01:23:48,960 --> 01:23:53,360
we could have put on e-code. Um,

1989
01:23:51,679 --> 01:23:55,280
» Right. But e-code,

1990
01:23:53,360 --> 01:23:58,800
» I will look into it.

1991
01:23:55,280 --> 01:24:02,719
» Yeah. So, so that's one thing. I mean,

1992
01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:05,120
so normally I think the town is supposed

1993
01:24:02,719 --> 01:24:07,600
to we we need to

1994
01:24:05,120 --> 01:24:10,480
from the way I read it, we need to adopt

1995
01:24:07,600 --> 01:24:13,040
a a law that says that a planning board

1996
01:24:10,480 --> 01:24:16,400
is formed and that [clears throat]

1997
01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:18,239
» Whether it's five or seven members

1998
01:24:16,400 --> 01:24:20,960
» Um

1999
01:24:18,239 --> 01:24:23,040
the alternate you know that

2000
01:24:20,960 --> 01:24:25,199
» We can choose to have alternates, we can

2001
01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:26,719
choose not to have alternates. Uh but

2002
01:24:25,199 --> 01:24:29,760
that would be

2003
01:24:26,719 --> 01:24:32,239
» That would be defined. Um

2004
01:24:29,760 --> 01:24:34,800
» There is a law Jamie. So

2005
01:24:32,239 --> 01:24:36,400
» So where what is can you reference that

2006
01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:38,400
law? I mean

2007
01:24:36,400 --> 01:24:40,239
» Not

2008
01:24:38,400 --> 01:24:41,600
there is well you can't find it but

2009
01:24:40,239 --> 01:24:43,760
there is one and I do remember it

2010
01:24:41,600 --> 01:24:45,040
because I did attend board meetings and

2011
01:24:43,760 --> 01:24:48,239
Steve is here

2012
01:24:45,040 --> 01:24:48,800
» Right. So, but the e-code is our that's

2013
01:24:48,239 --> 01:24:50,880
that's our

2014
01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:55,440
» E-code is, but it needs to be updated

2015
01:24:50,880 --> 01:24:57,679
all the time. And I can't tell you

2016
01:24:55,440 --> 01:25:02,719
when the last time we updated the laws

2017
01:24:57,679 --> 01:25:04,560
was. It's a separate deal before we even

2018
01:25:02,719 --> 01:25:08,560
» Would have been Well, no, actually Tom

2019
01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:10,960
Carter and I set it up ages ago, but um

2020
01:25:08,560 --> 01:25:14,960
» Okay. Okay. They can only they can only

2021
01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:16,239
put in e-code what exists in paper and

2022
01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:19,920
documents.

2023
01:25:16,239 --> 01:25:23,600
» So if if e-code includes that legal

2024
01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:26,719
disclaimer like that

2025
01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:30,400
anyway you can you cannot we cannot

2026
01:25:26,719 --> 01:25:31,840
reference law that that does not exist

2027
01:25:30,400 --> 01:25:34,000
to us.

2028
01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:35,840
» They do exist Jamie and they are there

2029
01:25:34,000 --> 01:25:38,960
» Just because you cannot find them. So

2030
01:25:35,840 --> 01:25:41,280
that's the first that's the first part.

2031
01:25:38,960 --> 01:25:44,000
Uh the second part is when I did look at

2032
01:25:41,280 --> 01:25:48,400
the e-code, it shows that nothing has

2033
01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:52,600
been updated on e-code since 2022.

2034
01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:52,600
uh in terms of new laws.

2035
01:25:54,480 --> 01:26:01,360
» Um so if that's true,

2036
01:25:57,360 --> 01:26:04,639
» We we just I think this month maybe the

2037
01:26:01,360 --> 01:26:08,000
board should consider reviewing

2038
01:26:04,639 --> 01:26:10,880
» First as the process for updating the

2039
01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:13,249
e-code. Um what that looks like and a

2040
01:26:10,880 --> 01:26:14,880
policy for it. Um because I

2041
01:26:13,249 --> 01:26:16,800
[clears throat] think it it is a

2042
01:26:14,880 --> 01:26:18,639
requirement. I mean, if you have e-code

2043
01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:20,800
and you're not updating it with new

2044
01:26:18,639 --> 01:26:23,729
laws, it kind of defeats the purpose of

2045
01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:25,520
e-code. Um,

2046
01:26:23,729 --> 01:26:29,199
[clears throat] and the other part of it

2047
01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:34,320
is that, um, you know, we're basically

2048
01:26:29,199 --> 01:26:36,800
like appointing people to positions that

2049
01:26:34,320 --> 01:26:38,480
don't exist. I should

2050
01:26:36,800 --> 01:26:42,080
» Jamie, I just Jamie, I just looked up

2051
01:26:38,480 --> 01:26:44,080
New York Town Law 271. It says this lets

2052
01:26:42,080 --> 01:26:46,960
a town board create a planning board

2053
01:26:44,080 --> 01:26:48,080
either by local law or by ordinance or

2054
01:26:46,960 --> 01:26:50,320
resolution. Right.

2055
01:26:48,080 --> 01:26:52,480
» Many small towns it's simply by board

2056
01:26:50,320 --> 01:26:53,679
resolution rather than a codified local

2057
01:26:52,480 --> 01:26:55,520
law.

2058
01:26:53,679 --> 01:26:56,960
» Okay. Where are you referencing that

2059
01:26:55,520 --> 01:27:00,000
from?

2060
01:26:56,960 --> 01:27:02,239
» Uh it's a document.

2061
01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:03,840
I can let me find the I mean it's found

2062
01:27:02,239 --> 01:27:05,920
online. I'm giving you exactly where

2063
01:27:03,840 --> 01:27:08,719
it's coming from.

2064
01:27:05,920 --> 01:27:11,440
» Yeah. I mean, I I'm not saying that I

2065
01:27:08,719 --> 01:27:14,159
I'm qualified to necessarily interpret

2066
01:27:11,440 --> 01:27:18,000
this. I think that our the town attorney

2067
01:27:14,159 --> 01:27:23,320
should look at it and uh advise

2068
01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:23,320
specifically, but um

2069
01:27:23,990 --> 01:27:28,120
[clears throat]

2070
01:27:24,639 --> 01:27:28,120
» Yeah, that's it.

2071
01:27:28,239 --> 01:27:31,920
» Well, that's one of

2072
01:27:29,199 --> 01:27:34,400
» Yeah, it says the town board of the law

2073
01:27:31,920 --> 01:27:36,480
uh I'll quote it. The town board of each

2074
01:27:34,400 --> 01:27:38,719
town is hereby authorized by local law

2075
01:27:36,480 --> 01:27:41,920
or ordinance to create a planning board

2076
01:27:38,719 --> 01:27:44,320
consisting of five or seven members

2077
01:27:41,920 --> 01:27:46,080
and shall resolution appoint the members

2078
01:27:44,320 --> 01:27:47,600
of such board and designate the

2079
01:27:46,080 --> 01:27:49,440
chairperson thereof.

2080
01:27:47,600 --> 01:27:51,360
» Okay. I'm on New York State Senate

2081
01:27:49,440 --> 01:27:53,679
website and it has a whole description

2082
01:27:51,360 --> 01:27:56,960
of section 271 on your planning board

2083
01:27:53,679 --> 01:27:58,400
creation and appointments and

2084
01:27:56,960 --> 01:27:59,760
» Yeah that's what I just read from

2085
01:27:58,400 --> 01:28:01,520
» Resolution

2086
01:27:59,760 --> 01:28:03,600
» Right but I'm repeating it says that it

2087
01:28:01,520 --> 01:28:04,480
can it does not require local law can

2088
01:28:03,600 --> 01:28:06,239
also be done by an

2089
01:28:04,480 --> 01:28:08,000
» Orolution

2090
01:28:06,239 --> 01:28:11,800
» Okay so I

2091
01:28:08,000 --> 01:28:11,800
» Do we have that ordinance

2092
01:28:11,840 --> 01:28:16,520
» I don't know that question I don't know

2093
01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:16,520
that answer

2094
01:28:17,040 --> 01:28:21,280
» What's What year is that?

2095
01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:24,480
» No, that's And I mean, what is the

2096
01:28:21,280 --> 01:28:27,840
definition of an ordinance?

2097
01:28:24,480 --> 01:28:32,480
» Official law, rule, or regulation passed

2098
01:28:27,840 --> 01:28:34,239
by a local municipal government. I just

2099
01:28:32,480 --> 01:28:39,400
» Okay. So, um,

2100
01:28:34,239 --> 01:28:39,400
» Yeah. So, there's

2101
01:28:39,520 --> 01:28:46,159
» I just think that it's in our interest

2102
01:28:43,040 --> 01:28:49,360
organizationally to address this this

2103
01:28:46,159 --> 01:28:52,480
month. and a point to meeting.

2104
01:28:49,360 --> 01:28:54,000
» I I I'm finding it we've we've done

2105
01:28:52,480 --> 01:28:56,880
three organizational charts where

2106
01:28:54,000 --> 01:29:00,560
alternates were listed and at this point

2107
01:28:56,880 --> 01:29:03,120
you're bringing your concerns up. I I I

2108
01:29:00,560 --> 01:29:06,000
don't see the value of that that there

2109
01:29:03,120 --> 01:29:10,400
we have alternates going back at least a

2110
01:29:06,000 --> 01:29:14,159
decade. So obviously this is a part of

2111
01:29:10,400 --> 01:29:15,679
this. So to bring it up at this point is

2112
01:29:14,159 --> 01:29:17,840
» You know the planning board

2113
01:29:15,679 --> 01:29:21,679
unfortunately we have a member who is

2114
01:29:17,840 --> 01:29:24,080
ill and a member who uh is having some

2115
01:29:21,679 --> 01:29:26,400
other issues and they need an alternate.

2116
01:29:24,080 --> 01:29:27,920
They had to cancel a meeting which is

2117
01:29:26,400 --> 01:29:30,400
not ideal.

2118
01:29:27,920 --> 01:29:33,600
» Right. But Mike just to clarify

2119
01:29:30,400 --> 01:29:35,840
alternates are not used in those cases.

2120
01:29:33,600 --> 01:29:38,880
Alternates are used for conflicts of

2121
01:29:35,840 --> 01:29:39,280
interest not for absences. No, they're

2122
01:29:38,880 --> 01:29:43,199
not.

2123
01:29:39,280 --> 01:29:45,440
» No, that's not true. They they are they

2124
01:29:43,199 --> 01:29:47,600
can be used if a quorum is not

2125
01:29:45,440 --> 01:29:51,239
established because people are are

2126
01:29:47,600 --> 01:29:51,239
unable to attend.

2127
01:29:51,360 --> 01:29:56,400
» Okay.

2128
01:29:52,719 --> 01:29:58,480
» I find it I find it odd that we have

2129
01:29:56,400 --> 01:30:00,400
alternates in the or organizational

2130
01:29:58,480 --> 01:30:02,719
chart for three years running and

2131
01:30:00,400 --> 01:30:05,040
probably for 20 years.

2132
01:30:02,719 --> 01:30:08,639
» Mike, I'm just being diligent. I don't

2133
01:30:05,040 --> 01:30:11,120
know why why why I and I'm trying to

2134
01:30:08,639 --> 01:30:13,600
make the planning board functional, but

2135
01:30:11,120 --> 01:30:16,080
they're in, you know, they definitely

2136
01:30:13,600 --> 01:30:19,440
need an alternate and we found one.

2137
01:30:16,080 --> 01:30:22,080
They're having issues with attendance.

2138
01:30:19,440 --> 01:30:24,639
Not by anybody's fault by by but just

2139
01:30:22,080 --> 01:30:27,199
from some circumstances.

2140
01:30:24,639 --> 01:30:30,239
Um, this alternate position has been

2141
01:30:27,199 --> 01:30:32,880
advertised for three years now.

2142
01:30:30,239 --> 01:30:35,520
» Yeah. So, can I read you the law on

2143
01:30:32,880 --> 01:30:38,400
alternate members? It says, and again,

2144
01:30:35,520 --> 01:30:40,560
I'm not an attorney, but it just I think

2145
01:30:38,400 --> 01:30:43,120
there's just a misunderstanding about

2146
01:30:40,560 --> 01:30:47,120
this. It says alternate members. It's

2147
01:30:43,120 --> 01:30:50,800
it's um it's number 15 under that same

2148
01:30:47,120 --> 01:30:53,679
um same law that Bart also pulled up. It

2149
01:30:50,800 --> 01:30:56,000
says a town board may by local law or

2150
01:30:53,679 --> 01:30:58,880
ordinance or is part of the local law

2151
01:30:56,000 --> 01:31:02,960
ordinance creating the planning board.

2152
01:30:58,880 --> 01:31:04,639
Again, it goes back to the local law or

2153
01:31:02,960 --> 01:31:07,199
ordinance specifically creating the

2154
01:31:04,639 --> 01:31:09,840
planning board. Establish alternate

2155
01:31:07,199 --> 01:31:12,400
planning uh establish alternate planning

2156
01:31:09,840 --> 01:31:15,199
board member positions for purposes of

2157
01:31:12,400 --> 01:31:18,080
substituting for a member in the event

2158
01:31:15,199 --> 01:31:22,080
such member is unable to participate

2159
01:31:18,080 --> 01:31:24,320
because of a conflict of interest.

2160
01:31:22,080 --> 01:31:27,360
» That's it. It doesn't say a conflict of

2161
01:31:24,320 --> 01:31:29,199
interest and an absence or a series of

2162
01:31:27,360 --> 01:31:30,880
absences.

2163
01:31:29,199 --> 01:31:31,280
» Is this by majority voter?

2164
01:31:30,880 --> 01:31:33,280
» Yeah.

2165
01:31:31,280 --> 01:31:35,679
» To vote on,

2166
01:31:33,280 --> 01:31:38,000
» Right? So, but we're we're voting on

2167
01:31:35,679 --> 01:31:39,920
naming a alternative alternative to the

2168
01:31:38,000 --> 01:31:43,520
this board. We're not saying what that

2169
01:31:39,920 --> 01:31:45,199
person's duties or otherwise are. So,

2170
01:31:43,520 --> 01:31:46,000
you're going levels deeper than what

2171
01:31:45,199 --> 01:31:48,239
this uh

2172
01:31:46,000 --> 01:31:50,880
» Well, we vote you voted on alternatives

2173
01:31:48,239 --> 01:31:52,639
before. So, I have another So, that's my

2174
01:31:50,880 --> 01:31:53,920
first

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01:31:52,639 --> 01:31:57,520
uh [laughter]

2176
01:31:53,920 --> 01:32:00,560
first uh let's call it an opportunity to

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01:31:57,520 --> 01:32:03,199
address some of these potential issues.

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01:32:00,560 --> 01:32:05,760
The other question I have is whether

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01:32:03,199 --> 01:32:06,880
this position was posted.

2180
01:32:05,760 --> 01:32:09,920
» Yes.

2181
01:32:06,880 --> 01:32:12,560
» And for when was it posted?

2182
01:32:09,920 --> 01:32:15,760
» For three years now. It's it's it's on

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01:32:12,560 --> 01:32:16,800
our website.

2184
01:32:15,760 --> 01:32:17,760
» Yeah. Every month it's in the

2185
01:32:16,800 --> 01:32:20,080
newsletter.

2186
01:32:17,760 --> 01:32:20,880
» Okay. I I did I didn't find it recently.

2187
01:32:20,080 --> 01:32:22,560
So, uh

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01:32:20,880 --> 01:32:24,080
» Look at the last newsletter. You'll see

2189
01:32:22,560 --> 01:32:26,239
it. The August newsletter.

2190
01:32:24,080 --> 01:32:27,440
» Oh, I I didn't find it there. So,

2191
01:32:26,239 --> 01:32:31,000
anyway, but it's

2192
01:32:27,440 --> 01:32:31,000
» Can you do a screenshot?

2193
01:32:32,719 --> 01:32:37,840
I'm I'm very surprised that your your

2194
01:32:35,679 --> 01:32:39,679
board members take personal offense to

2195
01:32:37,840 --> 01:32:42,880
my comments, but

2196
01:32:39,679 --> 01:32:44,560
» It sounds like you're

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01:32:42,880 --> 01:32:47,520
» Unwilling to look into this

2198
01:32:44,560 --> 01:32:49,280
» Meeting moving and other issues being

2199
01:32:47,520 --> 01:32:52,239
raised now which don't seem appropriate

2200
01:32:49,280 --> 01:32:55,199
to this thing question. Yeah, but you've

2201
01:32:52,239 --> 01:32:57,199
you've also created you've also created

2202
01:32:55,199 --> 01:33:00,800
alternatives for the zoning board and

2203
01:32:57,199 --> 01:33:02,719
this board is actually uh swapped around

2204
01:33:00,800 --> 01:33:03,280
people that were on the board to

2205
01:33:02,719 --> 01:33:06,000
alternate.

2206
01:33:03,280 --> 01:33:08,080
» No, I think the frustration is that you

2207
01:33:06,000 --> 01:33:12,000
know these concerns were not brought

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01:33:08,080 --> 01:33:12,480
forth three years ago. Um

2209
01:33:12,000 --> 01:33:14,800
» No,

2210
01:33:12,480 --> 01:33:17,520
» You know this has been fully advertised,

2211
01:33:14,800 --> 01:33:19,199
fully part of the organizational chart.

2212
01:33:17,520 --> 01:33:21,760
Um, so

2213
01:33:19,199 --> 01:33:26,000
» Yeah, Mike, I honestly I looked at this

2214
01:33:21,760 --> 01:33:27,519
a uh a bit closer because uh because of

2215
01:33:26,000 --> 01:33:27,520
my role

2216
01:33:27,519 --> 01:33:29,360
» [clears throat]

2217
01:33:27,520 --> 01:33:30,639
» Uh in the comprehensive planning

2218
01:33:29,360 --> 01:33:31,760
committee.

2219
01:33:30,639 --> 01:33:33,440
» Okay. All right.

2220
01:33:31,760 --> 01:33:35,520
» So, that's why I did look at a little

2221
01:33:33,440 --> 01:33:37,920
closer. I'm sorry I missed it, but it

2222
01:33:35,520 --> 01:33:39,440
seems like it's been missed for

2223
01:33:37,920 --> 01:33:45,000
» A long time

2224
01:33:39,440 --> 01:33:45,000
» And not just by by me.

2225
01:33:45,679 --> 01:33:50,679
» You want to take a vote? Um, okay. So,

2226
01:33:52,880 --> 01:33:56,880
» I have to go through minutes to ask for

2227
01:33:54,719 --> 01:33:58,320
resumptions.

2228
01:33:56,880 --> 01:34:00,719
Yeah.

2229
01:33:58,320 --> 01:34:01,840
» Okay. So, I I think I need to consult

2230
01:34:00,719 --> 01:34:04,560
this.

2231
01:34:01,840 --> 01:34:06,080
» Well, no, I think uh take a vote to

2232
01:34:04,560 --> 01:34:06,639
appoint

2233
01:34:06,080 --> 01:34:09,120
» Kevin

2234
01:34:06,639 --> 01:34:09,520
» To appoint Kevin Hind as an alternate.

2235
01:34:09,120 --> 01:34:11,120
Uh,

2236
01:34:09,520 --> 01:34:12,960
» And I'll find the minutes or the

2237
01:34:11,120 --> 01:34:15,360
resolution or the whatever it is that

2238
01:34:12,960 --> 01:34:17,520
says that the town board has agreed to

2239
01:34:15,360 --> 01:34:21,120
appoint alternates.

2240
01:34:17,520 --> 01:34:24,880
» Okay. [clears throat] Um, all in favor?

2241
01:34:21,120 --> 01:34:28,800
» Hernandez, Devorech, Ziggler, and

2242
01:34:24,880 --> 01:34:29,360
» Feld. All against

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01:34:28,800 --> 01:34:30,560
Corona

2244
01:34:29,360 --> 01:34:31,120
» Abstained.

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01:34:30,560 --> 01:34:32,480
» Thank you.

2246
01:34:31,120 --> 01:34:35,199
» Okay. Thank you. Thank you for bringing

2247
01:34:32,480 --> 01:34:36,800
up those concerns. Uh

2248
01:34:35,199 --> 01:34:41,880
um

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01:34:36,800 --> 01:34:41,880
as I described the the planning board is

2250
01:34:42,320 --> 01:34:46,800
um

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01:34:44,639 --> 01:34:47,760
in a state of flaws or you know is

2252
01:34:46,800 --> 01:34:48,159
having issues.

2253
01:34:47,760 --> 01:34:50,560
» Yeah.

2254
01:34:48,159 --> 01:34:52,880
» And which I'm trying to

2255
01:34:50,560 --> 01:34:53,280
you know evade

2256
01:34:52,880 --> 01:34:54,080
um

2257
01:34:53,280 --> 01:34:56,320
» Roan Park.

2258
01:34:54,080 --> 01:34:58,239
» Uh Roan Park.

2259
01:34:56,320 --> 01:35:00,560
» All right. The roof on the farmhouse has

2260
01:34:58,239 --> 01:35:03,120
been completed. Turns out I was right

2261
01:35:00,560 --> 01:35:04,880
and the sub the plywood underneath the

2262
01:35:03,120 --> 01:35:07,199
roof was completely rotten letting in

2263
01:35:04,880 --> 01:35:08,639
water. So that all had to be replaced,

2264
01:35:07,199 --> 01:35:10,080
» But it's replaced and it's fixed and

2265
01:35:08,639 --> 01:35:12,639
it's good.

2266
01:35:10,080 --> 01:35:14,560
» Um the another good project that was

2267
01:35:12,639 --> 01:35:17,040
completed was the water line to the

2268
01:35:14,560 --> 01:35:18,800
community garden. So now the seniors

2269
01:35:17,040 --> 01:35:20,159
don't have to lug hundreds of feet of

2270
01:35:18,800 --> 01:35:21,440
hose to get

2271
01:35:20,159 --> 01:35:23,360
» Water there, which is great. They have a

2272
01:35:21,440 --> 01:35:25,600
hydrant right at the garden.

2273
01:35:23,360 --> 01:35:27,385
» And we fixed the entrance to the park so

2274
01:35:25,600 --> 01:35:28,080
there's no more puddles, which makes the

2275
01:35:27,385 --> 01:35:31,880
[clears throat]

2276
01:35:28,080 --> 01:35:31,880
» Everybody happy. Yes.

2277
01:35:32,159 --> 01:35:38,679
» Uh thank you. Uh any other business

2278
01:35:35,199 --> 01:35:38,679
before the town

2279
01:35:38,880 --> 01:35:44,320
» Um

2280
01:35:39,360 --> 01:35:47,440
» Yeah m Mike if if I can just go back um

2281
01:35:44,320 --> 01:35:50,159
just because it's um not a resolution

2282
01:35:47,440 --> 01:35:53,360
here but I think separately we should

2283
01:35:50,159 --> 01:35:57,760
address the policy around updating the

2284
01:35:53,360 --> 01:36:02,719
e-code. thought is a very um that is I

2285
01:35:57,760 --> 01:36:05,600
think very serious and um and also has

2286
01:36:02,719 --> 01:36:08,480
to do with the planning board and zoning

2287
01:36:05,600 --> 01:36:11,040
board and our board's ability to

2288
01:36:08,480 --> 01:36:14,239
function in a basic way.

2289
01:36:11,040 --> 01:36:17,360
» Okay. Uh Marina, can you present next

2290
01:36:14,239 --> 01:36:18,480
board meeting of the policies to be

2291
01:36:17,360 --> 01:36:20,320
okay?

2292
01:36:18,480 --> 01:36:23,320
» I'll put that on the agenda for

2293
01:36:20,320 --> 01:36:23,320
September.

2294
01:36:25,199 --> 01:36:29,840
Uh hearing no further business. Motion

2295
01:36:27,520 --> 01:36:31,600
to adjurnn.

2296
01:36:29,840 --> 01:36:33,920
Uh Hernandez

2297
01:36:31,600 --> 01:36:36,000
» And Fel second.

2298
01:36:33,920 --> 01:36:36,480
» Uh all in favor?

2299
01:36:36,000 --> 01:36:37,040
» I

2300
01:36:36,480 --> 01:36:38,960
» I

2301
01:36:37,040 --> 01:36:41,920
» Uh unanimous. Thank you all for

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01:36:38,960 --> 01:36:49,400
attending. Good luck to our two council

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01:36:41,920 --> 01:36:49,400
members tomorrow. Um and um thank you