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So is memorialized then? Okay. Thank you. That's all.. No, um, so if you're inclined uh to take action this uh I would just recommend that you identify the waivers and comment two, uh with the proviso of the key inu for the street improvements of, I believe we're talking about 5000 and then, obviously conditioning the approval on the August fifth letter as the planning commission did. Okay. So we're looking for a motion to a preliminary fight approval for the subject application condition upon theushion the eff satisfying everything in someider.6. Um you. uh, we will suggest we will do the $5,000 kind of contribution in the road Street improvements. and I' your turn. I mean, do you got it at the other capital contributions already mentioned in the letter that's set by the C schedule. It's already in there.. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you.. Thank you, Che. Unf finished business on your business. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. um, for the board's request, we have Phillips Donovan here with us today to do a presentation on proposed renovations for the municipal building. At this point, I'll turn it over to Joey Jim to preside to the board what the plan is for consideration.. I'm you look at tonight in are project design or project manager. over through for you. Thank you, good evening. My name is Jim Linski. It's Joe Saddle, the project manager for the project for the architects. um as you're aware, we met sometime you go with township staff, did some programming for a new proposed uh renovations and alterations for the building, analyze we have a range of years from out and analyze some of these. It's in conditions of we had some survey work done on the building on the property, um we've been developed some schematic phase, building designs, uh went back and forth a few times. uh and what we have now is kind of the end of that stomatic phase designed concept. um so if you wanna go to the next slide, yeah. This is an aerial site plan if you will lower part of the municipal complex, uh the building is in the middle of the pitcher there to the right side of orientation is uh 152 primary road is towards the bottom of the property there. what we did when we started looking at the design from the the concept for the building was really to make more of a separation, a public and private access onto the site. so you can see me provided a public access on the lower right hand side while screen free road. the other two access points but then they compide, access points on the site. So we have access to police on the right left hand side of the site. now we wrapped around and access out to 152, much as a function now, really just the allores are at the police department. If you look at the public entrance drive, you taken the parking kind ofrapped it around back on it through its side to that same access drive. So we have plenty of parking in front. We've had aoe that parking in front of the building. and we have these other portion of that parking area dedicated to staff in aloyee parking. The main entrance of the building is still located in the same spot, but that is primarily now just the main entrance for the administrative offices and for a public meeting and a function ofability. He created a new entrance of the one of the additions on the left to the police department. this public interest what you will two separate public enterences, priifying the release from therative offices. And there are various positions around the size in the back of the building, small position for the administrative offices, there are sign effics were additional programming for police department around the back. um and and you can see that these are flat roof the white portions there are flat roofs that just kind of uh merge into some of the forms of the existing building as well as the proposed editions. There is also part of this program. It's a car for associated with the police of the department, and that's a 15 car carport, and it's actually adjacent to the building. Yeah, I would be easier five point to the screens. I don't know how much you guys can see the screen orve got everything try to talk through this like that. Let's look at the world land on the next, please. um and I don't know if you can see if there's a red line a d the red line that in the middle of this war plan, which uh represents the existing building footprint. So now we have the same front entrance the main entrance to the building is in the same location as currently is the right that kind of reddish area or rate of offices, to the front is a new is the lobby, which is being altered and updated. We have two smallers rooms off that lobby, only restroom off abs lobies. the main meeting room is still this space here, a small alteration work. Now, from the outside and adjacent to the left is the new public entrance to police department there is an addition being composed in the lower left hand corner who are administrative offices for the police department, and then working your way back, we have new altered areas through a patrol uh programming, including locker rooms of workspaces, and arenaas areas of the way of that is so of detectives offices and some of their support spaces. They're working back to upper left hand corner. We have the new secure entrance. so if you police department, uh from the Sally court into a processing area in a holding cells, uh accessing the holding cells. Jason to those areas we also have are evidence for g areas and uh some of the evidence paid. next. These are some of the building elevations, uh, very nice, rather to go through these in detail. I think that next year is of images will all describe to build in a little bit more clear. is the new uh visit proposed uh images of building from the public side of the building. We're offering over top of the public parking lot. uh you can see where the new uh exist the existing entrance that the building is into the lobby area. Or actually look proposing to alter that lobby area, perhaps lift some volume into that space, bring in some exterior windows into the lobby area. Just open it up into a little bit more bright and these. um and then you can see the blue centers on the other side with the new wing the district that that would be all of the place cent of the. This is rotating around the building down the left side is the business, you can see the administrative where, the right of that edition, and then the horore the way back into thisewer area of the parking area of you know, police department. This may or may not have a gated entrance. We haven't got that level of details. Certainly we'd like to propose putting a fence around this area, at least apartments or light tests secure their parking areas with the private vehicles, uh as as well as to make the property, local more secure. This is the back floor of the police area of the carboard was to right there, and then in your left or entrance to Sally port bays, as well as some storage and evidence storage area is evidence inal base. And this is a pack around again to the 152 sizes of the building. This is the proposed addition for the administrative offices where we're adding a couple of uh smaller uh office space for the building. based on those images that we presented to you some plans, uh some written descriptive details before it, our uh information to our allessimator, false estimated, there is the 12 page cost estimate, you convert through these pages, 12 pages, broken down in CSI format Okay, the base on that cost estimate, then we were able to break this down at the request of the township in the three different options, uh, for lightlying costs associated with these different options. Option over one is to renovate the existing building only without any building additions. This is taken the existing building that can really taking it down, removing ceilings, installing new fire suppression systems throughout the existing building, offgrading some of the uh insulation requirements in the building, uh doing some miscellaneous alterations on both sides of the buildings and better enhanced the way it works. uh and then upgrading all the finishes throughout existing building. based on that we were able to break down out of the cost estimate, the brotable costs. We also included some additional site work to upgrade some of the utilities, added in the contingency, and the total schematic face cost estimate for option number one, approximately $3 million three four nine million. Option number two, we were looking at doing the whole project all in one shy, all as one phase uh, so we're renovating the existing building with all of the building stanches, as I presented to you, uh, the closed portion of the building, the police car court, building alterations, site work, with a 10% contingency because this is just schematic phase, designed at this point, then we approximate that to be just over $8 million dollars. We were asked to look at a phase or excuse me, a third option of which we would phase the two portions of work. So phase one, um, police department, building editions, renovations and slight improvements, phase two, was administration building additions and renovation work. phase one, maybe we figured the work out to be about five just over five million dollars. phase two, which would be done to have maybe the date after that phase one was completed, would be an additional uh 3.49 million totalal for both phases done seemingly, you know, a year report or something like that, uh would be just a little bit more at 85 million, the real numbers. So that's where we are at this point, we've gotten through the initial uh design phases and an initial estimate of probable costs of schematic phase design costs, and at this time we're we're looking for your direction, how you would like to proceed. or if you had any other ideas or how that? Do, do you mind I'm sharing a few examples as to why this is necessary? on with the building, and achieve you can pipe in as well, if you'd like to. Sure. um, so I think generally speaking, when the township had gone out for an RFP using the APA money, um, a lot of the health and safety points in the municipal building were of concern. ADA compliance, uh our HVAC system at the time our boiler was on the brink of failing, um and as you can hear, the HVAC is also on the brink of failing. Um no fire suppression system within the building, um general electrical upgrades uh are necessary, plumbing, upgrades are necessary, are police departments, sync, um backs up way too often. Um, as well as some of our other uh facilities. So just generally speaking, the building really hasn't had much improvement since it was originally constructed. Um So a lot of these are needed just for general function. as well. over time and how building functions. That's correct. Okay. And then before your phase project, is it fair to say that if we extended two years or three years between phases that you look at a ten yearly escalation of both really? That's what the cost estimator was suggesting recommending at this time, generally speaking, typical economies, he was suggesting, you know, ranges between three and five percent. He said in recent years released since the pandemic, at least construction costs a bit during high, you can imagine. just like every other cost that you have you look at fuel costs, very volatile. So he says more, he's just the recommending a ten percent for year. Okay. any questions comements? No, not right now. Oh, you just turned it off. I did? Well, no, never mind... Yeah, could you office us through so, I guess within the original approval or from the art of money, um and we ultimately selected um you guys to help lead us through the least these initional phases, right? Wh where are we, I guess, within the whole scope of the contract with uh, Philodon and what are the next steps or requests, essentially available the board now? um, just to kind of let the set on on how we got here and then we needed to do start forth. So, our internal group, chief and I have met with Philip Donovan a number of times to get to where we are now, um essentially going from a larger scale renovation project to Whittleling it down to what we have presently. um and, you know, we've all talked about it in as well that this is a continuation um as we evolve through the process, right? So like, what the plan is presently might not be the exact plan that we see at the end of the project. um, but we need a general idea of this is the direction that we're going in. Um, if you would prefer to do a phase design versus, um, you know, the phase uh option one or option two, um that would be beneficial to know as well, but we do need a direction moving forward to that weekend then apply for grants. We can move forward with some of the interior aspects like the HRAC units, um, figuring out what capacities we need based on the square footage of the building, plumbing, electrical, all of those types of facility, um, components. narrow those down, get a concrete budget in place, go out for the the grants, and then hopefully move forward with a construction team and continue to work with Phillips and Donovan through the next piece of the project. But the Argo money and I know this has been thrown out there before, but the APA money does need to be spent down by twelve thirty one twenty6. So we are on a bit of a time crunch in order to meet that. um I would say we're approximately sixty six seventy percent through the contract budget um for APA. um so we do have quite a ways to go, but that is set aside for those next parts of the projects once we decide the square footage and determine a scope. context of the biggest prop necessarily what would be up to Philip. I don't have it in front of me to reference. somewhere designment, so, you know, architecture projects we generally est design development of construction documents. So, uh, depending on which pieces or somewhere in the design development, we not through it. So, and designed development phase is usually just that where we were really going into the design because once we get into the construction document phase, we we like to have a pretty good set designer, because then we're really detailing to to get permits and get it constructed. Not the same things can't change men, too, but the schemat design designed development phases are where we really mold the design and I think it's important in there that we have had electric kind of pol engineers, um civil engineers survey and the site and is doing site work so there's a lot of us that have been working or not just our office. I mean, they' our consultas, but um so that's that's how we get to the, basically, at this point, they need to know how they're gonna afford to spend the rest of the other purposes. my how much do we have left on that part of money? I don't have a specific number, but I can get that for you. I think it was like 340,000 were where about 60 to 70% spent down. Again, exact numbers. I don't wanna even, you know, throw out a number. I can get you the exact numbers tomorrow. Would that impact the option? I've actually looking at the to me, this is such a massive project. um I don't want to be forced into any option or schedul or any plan based on ed, it's like $100,000 or whatever we potentially have to get back. If if we allow ourselves more time to make sure that you know, we're 100% comfortable with the next steps, where the plan would be is that is ready for the future, like is this a building that's gonna take us through the next 20 years? Do we need more offices with AI electronic documents, we need the filing rooms, things like that. um, should it have emergency services, capabilities. other other things that I've as I'm looking at it are kind of popping in my head that I don't know the I don't the answers, but um for the for what we have left, funding wise I would I wouldn't be inclined to move forward just based off the my. Okay. And looking at and looking at this, obviously, but you know, eight million, eight5 is a big nug to crack, obviously. I, uh through the discussions I've always and I think I've states effective time. I'm leaning towards phasing it. I I really am, and I and I think the area that needs it the most is the police department right now. uh I believe they've done an excellent job with what they've had over the years and uh I think they're getting a little crammed over there and to be honest with you, there's a lot more uh things going on, police matters wise than half over the years where he obviously the force being increased over the years, uh and they definitely need room. They're working on one another right now, so obviously I agree with what Joe is saying. I think at some point that we we have to get started, I I' of the opinion that I'm leaning towards phasing it, but again, obviously there's other things we need to look at, but phasing it, I think is the way to go and start with the police department. Right now that's the way I'm feeling. just a new sure also, I I 100% agree that I don't the building is not it's not sustainable. as it is that we all know that there's a million things that need to be fixed. Are you suggesting taking, take the a police side, I'm really hammer that design and push that, and then that's the way I' locked in, not locked in on the other side. That's that that's where I am right now. I I think that the need is the police department side. Obviously, the HVAC and everything else in the plumbing and things like that would come along with it, but I think that's where we need to start. phase one is what you're saying. Correct. Option three phase Option three phase one. Got double secret probation, right. And so how would that logger we did that's a good question, we would want to focus on that what are the next steps there to know what I would love to have cheap come up at some point. I mean, we take a look at that if you like. I mean, we could take these designs, remove the administrative office, the improvements, the administrative building, portion of it, and just developed on you know, it's a fork under. you're gonna be putting all inits in a work on the side. things like fires actually won't be done to this part of the building and until phase two proceeds. So it's gonna be kind of half completed different phases. I'm sorry that are process, which is like thought where maybe you were going, I mean, we should really, you know, we've got to this point for a whole series of meetings over the years, but um so if if we're gonna really focus on the police, then we should get together or through whoever you feel is appropriate to get together and and then focus on it. um, you know, we have gone through a process, a whole programming process, which is a multifage document that this every room the size it is now what size I think it should be, um rooms of spaces we don't have, so we're going through that process and then we actually came back and crossed off when I threw it again, so I believe it or not the building is smaller than it started out being. um but, you know, there may be room for that, but we do want to make sure that, when this building gets built, that it's not obsolete room. It's so. we do ask in that program. I mean, like, where do you see your shop? additional staff, additional uses that you might not have. So that has been taken into account, but um, I mean, really, we just we've been working with with theN chief on those things, and we just know even know that everyone's on board, so that we can we really get. On we get that, we' it's easy, you know, easy for us to to move forward, but ouritectially layout and able also mechanical at youron systems Again, I'm one three, that's just where I'm focused on the now. I think E five is a big one. 85 is Now, keep an in mind that, you know, the grants that we're gonna be applying for rent dollars or dollar matches, correct. Um, some, but some are true.. only other thing that you may consider you consider is, even if it were be built in two phases, do we do the design work in on the phase so that it's ready to go. And I mean what happens here in someone, you know, some ways is they're gonna affect each other, some ways, you if we need to make sure we plan for that and in my opinion, it would be wise to design the whole thing that you don't to things. I don't disagree with that, and, you know, the other argument is it's not gonna be any cheaper than it is to that true, you know, that's the other thing we have to weigh as well. In my mind, there's a big difference between the design phase which you're talking about and putting the shovel in the ground. correct. So, before the for the design phase for we're considering enough theR but running um, so we don't have to keep back, I have no issue is designing the entire building, it doesn't necessarily have taking a shovel on the ground. moving forward andruction right way, but it allows us to use the up money that was all located to design in the building. So I have no issue moving for it with the complete design. Again, knowing that that doesn't mean right, you know, a shuttle goes in the ground, it'll be ready to check, but doesn't you in the process. I don't think it's there to hang these guys out for more time. um and I agree, but you, you know, you're right. it is important to look into the future I'm not sure that in office space can't be converted out a later point in time.. I do want move. You mean technology wise? technology, absolutely. Like an AI or, right. Sure. I was just a farmer, so lot. um in terms of the the cost estimates, the one of the thing I notice is it concluded is national service cost, you know, permitructionion fall. um any the what we could use as a percentage to total all data cost. I know there's gonna be selections and things like that, but furniture, for instance, in technology, you can get really crazy. I't never use this stuff. a big difference. technology. addressed that. This is that cost of this. you know, sticks of risks that have mechanical systems, ess essential structure the a. So, I mean, we've been making find something that give you a range, there's that would be... And then I also think when you're going through the that programming analysis, I think maybe not line by line, but some level of another presentation like this to go through, you know, what that looks like, so obviously it's all like we has a chance to see it in common question, we can do the same thing, of course, um, just a new or reason aware of all the thought that's going into, you know, each room and also some of the update.. I think I noticed there was no finish construction cost either in your in your text accurate. You have to you have to double check, but I think the finishing construction line is like. So I have to be just I'm not following your ass that in your fits you really Sorry, so 30 pages.? Finish carpinger. 06, two, zero, zerorazy zero zero. Yeah, this this does not include any of those items that were outlined up, uh the summary sheet. This doesn't include any of what we call the FF and E, which is furniture fixtures equipment. This is a wood door and window cas, wood aprons, wood base, shoeing chairails, woodst stuff. a strip. It's all associated with the building itself. It's fixed to the building. That's that doesn't include furniture. technology, not that doesn't I'm not talking about furniture and technology, but it's actually listsis finished carpentry. page two of maybe I'm missing something, but just a blank. It's not equipment, it's not anything like that. It's not spec destruction. Okay. And I maybe I was just missing something, but I assume theying finished carb injuries included, and the person would be okay. That is correct. So, at this point, Janice, I guess we need to decide whether we can move on with the planning and design phase swimming, and I agree with doing phase in and I would join the policeartment in first. But design the whole thing. I agree with that there. I think that makes a lot of sense. Yeah. design the entire project. Again, it doesn't mean we' spend $5 million or putting shows in the ground but because then permission to more region go through it in I only comments on the four of these stuff, so formalize that of the for. do that there'll be two sets of time. So it's not like they're all gonna still be one set, there's gonna be phase one that phase two. Yeah, but you'll you'll just design. That makes sense.. Yeah, I am. Do you want a motion for this or Sure? Yeah.. And I got a motion to approve continue in the design phase, um with the construction project with Austinion three phasing the construction. um, knowing that we're gonna do the design phase for the entire project levels. great. So seconds. sorry. I was in favor? Thank you guys. Thank you guys. appreciate it.. Okay.. what' moving on there, your new business. shall invest place complet for chief. Thanks.. Uh, thanks for all for having me. I' give a brief update on our operation and where was named financially. uh, so, good evening, my name is Mong Avenue, the chief of Operation for Southware original EMS. I'm join denied five vice share my deputy chief Justin Tuttle. I thank you for the opportunity tonight to speak. I wanna use my time to give you update on where we stand financially, where we stand with our 2025 audit and most importantly, the level of service residents are receive from us every single day. All town Township is one of the five communities whereared to serve, and I think the incigration scheduled back that up. uh for our financial update through July of this year's shower original EMS brought in just overwhel27 million in re. Finially the seven month period in a healthy financial position. our reconciled cash accounts is good extra over290,000. out of July. our total assets and just over two million and against totalability of about $23,000 short our bet is sound and we remain a stable financial posture the second half of this year. I also want to clarify the showerberg original is not currently, requesting any additional winding or hotel township for a fiscal year 2026. Aud update on the aud front on police report that everything on our end is complete. We've worked closely with our bookkeeping team of our books, reconcile our account and provide our outside orderor lab with everything they need to finish our. 2021 on. Our understanding is that the owner itself is substantially quickly in the auditor now finalizing our finjections. At piece takes some additional time when they're where the reors receive a full update or a year of the financials are August 20th fourth meeting, which soon you attended, by our accounting furned our neighbor, uh for those that weren't able to make it and they' residents to run go back to our next meeting that give even deeper financ without an answer any questions from the supervisor will follow. We also our budget, we' already looking as the next girl, we put out process, and we look forward to working with the township and discussing any deficit should we ask some. now I wonder what matters most on the residents, the local serviceout regional BMF provides here in Motown township, Shadow regional EMS runs two AS andoses 24 seven, 3605 days a year. One based at a new township station and the other one base so company. Were with crews were made and they dozenations and they are not out of the call, so they are always positioned and ready to respond quickly. Shout the original BMS is the only agency actually stationed within the center point of the township area, which matters on every second counts. In addition to or two are you supervis one duty seven or supervisors are all acrossst in the GMS fire, uh rescue and emergency management. We also have a duty chief in the station Monday through Sunday, uh, and a duty chief on call from home Monday for Sunday night shift. We're all cross string fire as well. Our paramedics ADs and the MGs hold themselves to the highest level standard possible, and our full time paramedicsurer 200 years of combined 91 DMS experience. Both town T township consistently accounts for the highest share of all of any of our number micipalities and our response times consistently unformed the heies published averages for this area against any agency. A few things to highlight from our operation regular regularly excuse me support community investor town township, including events like the American run. That part of our commitment to this community, to be honest emergency response. In fact, every single event we attend is free to the township. um something new that we started doing, our personnel routinely supplemented the whole town of fire compan's crew staffing what needed. This is a new program, where our silented supervisors will respondent supplement. Hill town fire company crew, and this is a similar program to the with the water does for sodale fire company. I actually started including including the data from this quarter in our monthly report, uh and I believe that this program has significantly assisted that not only the township but the fire company and improved man and response not so far from the fire side. Um, something else to do, we are 100% staff with a very littleternative rear staff. We currently have a list of waiting list for full time parameise. That's not something you see very often in the EMS. um and then lastly, I just wanna address some over changes. um so one more thing, obviously, I want to fly for you guys and I Chicago regional is in the process of updating our eyeballs and as part of that process, we reaching out the wholetown township the gauge you interested in the seat on our word directors. We value having a number ofalities represented directly in our governments. We look forward to that conversation with you and we set ahead. uh just a recap we're the work that our group put in every day and it reflects what we deliver a year round. Two dedicated to LSA goes to staff and ready to run the clock, based right here in your community. That's a lot of people commitment, you agency problem with wealth match that really the most unresidents get fast, against doing careated at the most. I'll be happy to answer any operational questions. Like I said, anybody that has any financial questions or accounting for it will be other our next word meeting, all uh, believe 17th at fiveclock and anywhere township station, but excuse me, September 17, but I'd be happy to answerswering out operational questions that you may. How about simpl financial questions? I'll see what I can do. I did provide you guys with the actual from our accounting firm. You did. and I've be more than happy to email that out for the public as well. Okay. Audience isn't really worth it. Cliff, the uh allow for doubtful account, is that money that recall that you made that you don't think you're gonna get paid on? Is that what that is? Okay, and obviously that's up because your call volume has increased? a.. some calls that we respond on, we just if the person doesn't have an shirt. account is that that you're looking at? That is count 15 page. I guess it's three of nine. we're actually looking to remove the account for the for money that we' going to collect.m sorry again, I apologize that we don't will be collected out of our budget from AR. working with our account for a really update a lot of line, but yeah, for now that's the uh hand and counter. So is is JNA the bookkeeping aspect of it and Dun like is doing the audit? Is that correct? Okay. and he's a CPA, I believe, as well. if for JNA. he is, yes. was also doing a a projection plan for us for the next couple of years. that's why the aud is taking longer. Projections, you mean what you think you're gonna bring in over the next couple years? Is that is what they as well as deter what would be for the next at least one year. I I know you just said 2026 you you don't believe you'll need any new funds or any increase in funds. in 2027, do you have any idea? So I can give you a rough number or 2027 budget is in the right now and as it right now, I think that we are looking at maybe a $12,000 deficit, but that's before we're really target it up and not be backer numbers and we're on that. that will probably be available for you at our next board meeting. Okay. promises, but we hope to have it as our everybody before you did mention it was September 17th? Thank you. something? Sure. Yes, yeah, Come on, Mike. Did you guys have any more questions? Oh, you did. Oh, he did? Oh, I sorry. Why did we need to do that we know we need to do we're working on is increase our reserves. That's that's where it st difficult right now. You know, are we are in a profitable situation month over a month, but it's not huge money. We need to rebuild our reserves that we before Cliff on a number of board right on board, and celebr station opened, they went through all the reserves, hey no salaries, because as you know, medical reimbursents come very slowly. and so the reserve money they had went out the door, paying salaries to maintain that station. and and keep it going for the first year. Now we need to rebuild those those reserves, and that's one of the most important things we need to do at this point. So when we say, you know, do we need more money next year? It's kind of a next bag. Yeah, we can get by, but we really need to be very cash service for a time when we might have to buy an oldandules or something so Well, that be part of the projection. I know. I I'm sorry. That's part of the projections I'm assuming. Okay. Thank you. One other quick one cliff, the line of credit I see is at 81,000 Are you guys paying interest only on that at this point, and do you have any um plan for knocking that down or so on and so forth? I'accurate number because we actually made two double payments. updated number for that. But yeah, we do make a monthly payment background for the line of credit. Is it only do you know if it's principal. okay. And that line credit. Should we need it we have a since the beginning of the really effect where it was the last time we pulled Do you know the max that is? 200,000? 250,000,000. And you have access to it? Son, El am I correct that the cash the beginning of this period was two37 and cash at the end was 2900. So we're talking like a $50,000. increase over that. This span from January to July. That'srect. Okay. And you think that the line of credit is is not correct on here, it's actually lower. I would clarification on that tomorrow. Okay, okay. I knew they trusted me to pay me yesterday, which would reflect in there. Okay. numbers said, probably second. We're not accounts someone else might be.ome. So, balance sheets are really good for buyings, but I'm more interesting in cashing. Okay. making payroll, making your loans. et got. is on a pro basis. is that case scenario. What is your collection for halls? Basically you go on and call wasn't percent that actually pays. blue are current 72%. 72%.. Does that reflected in your so we're working right down with your neighbor in to actually break that all down in. We did collection reports every single one more collection. easy and I actually need to tomorrow can start adding that back in actually identify based off with the call location of that we provides better reports. Obviously, we've been doing a lot, but the audit, a lot with the financial, you know, push forward, so we're really trying to show everything in quickBooks now, so I can I' be more than happy to send you a collection before, so you can see what it looks like, um, but I hope by the next few months, be able to show that and what. as chief, are you learning as financial stuff? I hope so. Did you say in the next few months? you hope to have it cleaned up? Is that the is that what you just said, I'm sorry? everything' breaking cost for station down is not currently in books. We're really gonna break out over time. uh, add different lineups and equip books. That looks sense. So this this is really just a snapshot. There's a lot there's a lot more coming yet. I'm taking, I'm guessing. snapshot around a neighbor game, um, but we're really trying to add onto what we track right now, but that is everything track just in some things overlap line, I don't in what we're trying to really expand it out to show a breakdown of gasper drug, like everything that we can possibly track. Okay. The audit itself, when are you do you want to date, do we want this bar next you want this order? What do you said the odd is, nearly complete? I'm being told if the art is complete or just runningjections, which I just got an email tonight saying they're doing tomorrow. So I'm hoping that's that's the last part. That's the last piece of it. That's. So we'll have something prior to our next meeting is what you're saying. you're hoping. I'm not going to say yes, but that's what I'm meaningful. Hopefully by the end this week. You do realize you've been asking for numbers since you January, unfortunately, we're at the University of the Aud company. We we've got everything on our end, but they do what they do and they add home to projections, which about an additional couple weeks. And $5,000, I sure.. famili with that. questions? No, I don't have any questions necessarily, I guess. I just the only I can just weigh in a little bit on the uh just process so that's helpful for you guys, but um sort of typically when the CVA firm is getting towards the end of an audit, there's something they have to do that's essentially it's an assessment of whether or not they company or nonprofit or SD can continue to business. Um so that's there where it sounds like is there basically done the financial statement side of things, so the numbers is there kind of locked down. um, but then what they do is they have to look at what will this and see what' the opposite being there in 12 months? And so it's not uncomment for those I mean, that's normal monitating procedures or something they have to do. Um part of the audomating standards that they have so I think we're we're somewhat of in a weird position. keeping in mind that I know it's January is a number of front around, but we we need to provide we didn't identify with the issue was until quite April time frame when we sat down as a smaller group and talked about the accounting back all this stuff. um so really, it's been I was time we approved that funding for JNA, that was early June, I think was when they basically got the funding. I can move forward. So, I speaking for us some really proud that we actually did that, um, took that step of hiring JA, otherwise, I don't think this would be possible, um, I don't know if necessarily think it would be in a decision wrap up the audit, as quickly as they're going to. um because they need that forecast in and they's helping develop that forecast and they're gonna be more people on go four cases. So I think there's some until the auditors get through that forecast review, they can't issue the you know auditor report. um and then so all that stuff. you know, can't really budget necessarily for next year or um for a lot of your out would absent certainty yourself. So throw that out... So, it's just hopeful to have numbers that from that not realistic being right there. Yeah, and and what I what could happen in it's not uncommon and it's just that a doubt point youought to per can look at the forecast and say, you know, you break even based on your own numbers on within the next 12 months, they can put a disclosure in the financials that basically say, there's substantial doubt about your ability constiguous growing concern. And basically, we don't know if you're gonna be here 12 months. I've seen that a lot more than the nonprofit world. knowing specifically what what was going on in shower, but more generally across the MS in general, um, it's not surprising to me if somebody got that kind of an opinion, just because there's a structural issue between cost service reimbursements, billing, um and until that's all resolved it wouldn't that wouldn't be uh uh a terrible thing. it maybe view that or could be painted that way, but it would just be a data point. I know all that would be saying is with the next one months, we don't know if it would be here or not. now we don't know what that we would have a chance to see what that based on, because then at that point forecast would be done. So I think if we got the audit I would be shocked if the audit wasn't done before well, before that, but and that's just no contact with Don Lab or anybody else. just based on my experience of it sounds like they're right at the edge. um so once you have the audit, you get the work, if you aud to do, you could very well say, you know, there's risk of a going concern, we'll be able to see what they what that would face on. And then the by line, that's going to lead into what's the forward financial requirements? Is if there're if there's substantial doubt and it's roughly very even or so in the forecast, then upon child any other agency in the same boat that I know what I need to go out. and ask what we just felt. It is is is so it's so have you guys been in contact with Silverdale at all regarding any of this? Have you guys been in contact with Silverdale regarding any of this? I know you have your Silverdale borough itself, yes. a meeting with him. super busy, so we will be meeting with them to discussonding for 207 within the next few months, I gets back to me. You talked to that you didn't talk to anybody on their board? I's Jimmy Brown, right? Joe, with the way you just sit there about the um this sustainability, can they can they move on, and things like that? Sh should we be requesting the same information from a couple other English companies just in case?, they they should be uh, without a great att track record is, but I I think we get a lot ofited financials historically we've got on Have we gotten them from others?, but. And not not to not to knock but they're d obviously they've come a long way with what they're doing and I understand about building the reserves. The concern is how quickly would they be able to build a reserve and that that that concerns me.. So maybe we should be you know, you would take a look at somebody else just in case.. you know, we have you have those financials? Have you been getting? You have those. All right, I guess we should probably take it with a letters too, just to be safe. Absolutely. Our current providers, you referring to? Yes, the other yes. agreed. Yeah, I mean, who who do you get from now?, Point Pasant.. Shelbert is yeah, St. Luke's and a VMSC. BMSC. get something from C as well, just to make sure C where CB is at. Okay. just to make sure.C I know they I don't know their financial position off the top of my head, but just just cover ourselves, because the number one thing is to make sure we're covered. And you just want the audit? Yeah, you can grab their audit. That would be fine. Yeah, did you have any questions? I am not sure that they would be able to be answered at this time. Um, a lot of them have to do with the financials. Um, in taking a look, I had sent over a number of requests um and questions based on the first round of statements provided by JNA. Um, there were in a couple inconsistencies from documentation that we had been provided by Shelbert previously, um, there was the letter the I'm sorry, the line of credit was omitted from, uh, the financial report, um, which appears to have been just a mislabel. um of a line item, uh, but there is a new loan that's currently showing up, um and I'm not sure again of if that's regarding one of the other loans that might be mislabeled as your PMA loan two, or if that is for your Phillips monitoring system, um, I think one of the things that we had the board had requested, um I'm sorry, back on what was that be? that was sent out, I believe August um I believe it was on July 23rd, when we had reached out, asking for about ten different pieces of information that was supposed to be turned into the township on August 20th. We're still missing a good amount of that, um information and part of wanting to receive that was in advance of this presentation. Is that something that Chubert is still assembling? I think there might be confusion. I'm referring to the documents that were due back to us. everything that we have and they're gonna be the ones to answer their financial questions and then once the audit is done, obviously they'll give you guys that at all. there were things though, so, um anticipated financial need by service municipality, uh current and updated balance sheet, which we received, uh details of balance sheet liabilities, which is part of the documentation total number of paramedics and EMTs on payroll. that was never received.jections and all the other questions that. we've no, good. Is there way to get that ahead of time? There's other questions that' asking if you could do that if you rather go that I I would. I'd rather have some of those ahead of time if we could, yes. obviously the ones that you have in there that are related to the financials we can go to the meeting on the 17th and we can discuss directly with, thank you very much. And uh, if there's other ones that he could answer directly. Yeah, uh planned modifications of your by laws, it sounds like you were planning on addressing that the next board. ahead. I complicated because of the withdrawal from fant and written Merle as our by laws are written, they are primary municipalities and rivals. They have to be taken out of them. Sorry. On they're taken out, that means that they're two representatives who they currently have on a word, we have to address that issue as wealth. Now, we're talking to you informally about whether or not Hilltown Township wants to seat on that board. If if so, that's another change we're trying to get all this at one time. It's gonna take a couple of months to change it as v laws and update them after what's happened, a shellun and the redboro. They are they pieced now right now there's only one primary town, primary municipality in estad Township. down there happened, so basically, I'm the only appointed wrap on the board. How many how many members are on the board? Seven. And are they single per municipality or did they two or they, there were, okay?, there's one for, one formero, one for Uberation. Then we had uh four available for um uh excuse me, we had three available for for um at large investment on the board. And how is the adlord determined? I by vote of the board will apply on the board will them as we just did, we just put radio on the board, as the show on the board, basically theied, they were interviewed the board voted. Go ahead. Another item in that email that was never responded to was the um the status update on grant eligibility. Is there an update on that? sent an email to all the municipalities. several wants ago that we appied for that brand, so as of 2027, we would be eligible for all one. just to clarify for 2026 was the one brand that's only $15,000. I, that's for the AFG, and that was I file. It worked by the previous board, but for 2026, we did a block of theberg.. We planned to do that again a 227. Does that affect the amountcliffe, or is that Lant? Yeah, the range. million we apply for somewhere in the 850 to $00,000 to replace some cardiac monitors and CPR machines. um and we should know the results of that by September of this year. then the money would be allowed beginning of 2027. Did you guys handle that internally? I actually found a I'm gonna give out my secret. I found a way to apply through the Bucks County Department or on the Department of Agriculture, so we don't have to use the municipality to attach to this is the municipalityities use it for something else. So we apply it on behalf that. Okay, great. All right. I'm gonna go to the meeting in September. Okay, yeah. So I understand that you're in the audience phase, but maybe you completely honest with you. you really need these numbers by the next meeting. um, I understand it out of your control to the point. This back and forth that we're having is really making me nervous, and I know Joseph's, you know, that it's April that you really dug into, but it was January that we received a letter from your organization saying that he had six months left before we went out of business, we' come up with a lot sum of money, and that sits in the back of my head. So, you really have, in my mind about a month to get everything together and present it. I just wanna clarify that that blur was sent by some a majority of the people that are no longer on the board, and now that we have a new board members and I' been here for almost one year, um and we did a reconciled quickBooks. We have more accurate numbers now. I believe that that letter was sent by a previous word administration with invalid numbers. That's no question that our quick books was an absolute disaster. Um, so I believe that that letter was sent one at an inappropriate and two. now that we have the proper information, I believe that, okay, well, if we have been asking for that proper information for quite a while. I understand that. So, we're we're ready for the audit to be concluded just as much as everybody. okay? But we can physically out of our hands. now. everything that we can do is is everything on our end. agree, but we have responsibility to make sure that our township is covered by ES. I heard that. Okay. Danny, you're gonna reach out to somebody else. see what make sure they're up to date on everything, make sure they know what's going on. Sure, yep. um, I have been following up with them uh throughout this process. um, as well as? the same emails that all you guys Speaking of emails, can you make sure that our attach manager gets copied on the next email? She was admitted the last for the last meeting for your meeting that you just had, she was not listed there. If you could list her moving forward, I'd appreciate it. Did you get? Yeah, I believe the email that uh supervisoroff is referring to is the email where you sent the link for the virtual attendance. that be great. else? Yes. Go ahead.. Do you remember you said the letter said six months, we' well past six months and we this year.itt and we' one. We're here. and we're profitable at the moment. I and just one other thing, and this this really does just apply tolbury, it applies across this whole community. I ran some numbers, um on on a cost of EMS and and in populations, ages and whatnot. In this community, it costs this community, by minor, 657,000 per resident to have an ALS unit available 247365. Oh, is that number? 67750,000 a year, just for the salaries. That's not in, it's not the fuel, it's not the vehicles, it's not the. Take that fuel spread across and only million. spread across your population. notiking 6507 first. It's not cheap to do this business. It's not easy and yeah, it let themselves in the hole two years ago when they have station without problems there. we' passing, well pass and I like to think we have some professional people in charge now. That's all you. appreciate that. Thank you.. Okay. new. I'll on open space program reauthorization. Yes, thank you, Mr.. before the ask me look into uh whether or not or how we could, um make or know, may one to reitute you the find the same. um in particular passenger um uh for the idea of maybe that should be something to referendum in voters opinion, before moving a long direction another so I look into the process of uh referendum. I say referendum according to the space act. um, if you're go above the statutory ceiling you have to do this by referendum yet and that is governed by election, um curious little time frame, at least when the first, uh when you first considered, you have the referendments question in the election 13 the next and while that sounds around a random, when you think about it there 72 weeks of the year 13 Tuesday, okay. really three months, but it's more precise and you know, there's noater or constitutes three months. So, you want to put that roughandum from the next watch, the next elections November third, um, our last meeting, July 27th, um, so, um, we had about six days to draft in ordinance advertise and pass it, and then sudden the referendum question to accounting. so we're not making this for, so uh, but it is something obviously it can be explored the next time around. There was also question in terms of, perhaps could the could the 2016 9 say 2016? the programming existed until 2016, uh and it had ceased to exist. is a way to sort of reineize that re that I hadn't been unable to find another mechanism for this sort that we have to pursue that referendum again. it's something, forefront for the next time around, then we pursue questions, call.. this point. on that you guys, I guess interested in that, um maybe about for that whether or not advance of actually defining for rising of the language of referend to a scrub of the of his place, the open space. plan and how much is I don't necessarily can I don't know if we need to do that just to to make sure that we it's quite possible that we may have It's quite possible that we may have to make several changes. Right. I don't think it's quite possible. I think it's.. How much money do we currently have in the open space? Two 2.1. 2.1. Should we try to.. use that money before we turn around and But again, I understand I'm putting a referendum, but, you know, I sitting on 2.1 million in this piece, I think we were able to purchase was the glider port Cor, and. Obviously, the I'm sorry, the amount of acreage that is currently listed under the plan is very difficult to get to get out putting pieces together. You go too small, then you end up defeating the purpose. The other thing is, too, if you know, we have to be cautious about taking properties off the tax rolls as well. It's a balancing act. So I think those are all things, but I'd be cautious and again, obviously it's up for discussion, but continu we're sitting on 2.1, which will soon probably be more than that with interest. You know, should be considered lowering that part too, but again, putting that I' sort of talking a circle, I apologize, but it may be difficult to spend that. What we currently have. Yeah, I think if we change the requirements, I think it would be very easy to spend it, but. Well, what is that number that are we are we spending it just suspended in at that point? I mean, obviously to balance, you, as you said, you're going to have to look at that plan to figure out where that number is said, hey, there may be a piece of property you is 20 acres and it has some historical significance or as a kid about before, it's got the Joshua tree on it, or something like that, you that when it makes sense. But Signal 2.1, I think we need to be cautious to figure out a way to, you, not that down. Yeah, maybe we got to look at it a praised valueuation. In fact, you're not just an acre chapter. Well, that's the other thing five years is it's We can only pay for the appraised value, developer can in and offer a dollar more and you win. Yeah, that's My question is 40 acres out in the country would you rather have five acres that could be, you know, packed in in houses? Obviously, these areions and we need to have. actual land came about it from the county a county, do you remember? I don't. I don't remember.. Tim was so excited to be here. I I don't remember Joe. I honestly don't. I would like to think there was a rationale behind it, you know, but I honestly don't know on the top of my head. Obviously take a look at it, we'll probably pack our way into it figure it out. I mean, it' be obvious, you do have some time. Yeah, we do. We have some time. That's right. Yeah. Do a little bit of a dive into this and figuring out maybe with some other people do.. Okay. I'm making school.. No, not do. New business, D, car media application. Is anybody here representing that? No. All right, go ahead. Yep. So this is a community.. Excuse me, a community event application, as we've seen before us a few times. This is the second year that we've taken a look at this specific community event, the car show this year, is scheduled for September 26th with the rain date of October 3rd. Time of 12 to 5 p.m at Bishop's, and this is up for consideration and approval for the event to take place this year. off last year? Did we have Did you guys start traffic, Chief? You were present? Okay.. I contact us soon. Okay. Thank you. We get a motion to hot. Some years motion, Tor... Thank you, Mr. Chairman. All right. Approval. motion to approve H&C extended hours for the month of September. Approval to allow the concrete back plan, asphalt badge plan, and crushing plan at Shellfont Corry and asphal to operate between the hours of 6:30 p.m and 6:30 AM Monday through Saturday between September 1, 2026 and September 30, 2026. The request excludes holidays and historically, the board has also excluded private contractors as well. well done. There. I'll second DA. I make the motion.. Okay. Thank you. Mr.man. All right, so resolution 2026 that yearared to one in front of the board today as a resolution of the Board of Supervisors authorizing the Bucks County 2026 hazard mitigation Plan. The hazard mitigation plan has been worked on over the last couple months and is compliant with section 32 222 of the disaster mitigation Act of 2000, which requires state and local governments to develop the submit for approval to the President of a mitigation plan that outlines processes for identifying their respective natural hazards, risks, and vulnerabilities. This resolution is essentially to confirm that Hilltown Township will formally adopt the Bucks County 2026 Hazard migation Plan as the official hazard mitigation plan of Hilltown Township, and the respective officials and agencies identified in the amlementation plan, hereby directed to implement the recommended activities assigned to them. primarily, there are goals and objectives within the plan to ensure the safety of residents while increasing our infrastructure to support any kind of hazard mitigation effort and to educate the public on anything going on within the township specifically during natural or hazard disasters. good we've been involved with this before? Yes. We're not that one municipality that they participate? No. It is preferred for us to not be the one municipality that doesn't participate this time around either.. This is the official plan? The official plan. This is the official plan. Official plan an executive summary of the $419 page plan was included in your packets. I did not print out the $419 pages for.. resolution for the6 b hazardation. Second. comment out there. in favor. Wonderful thank you, Mr. Chairman. moving on to item 10G. The LSA assistants to Hown Township Volunteer Fire Company. Back in July, supervisor Metzinger had requested that I reach out to the fire company to discuss any potential needs that they may have or assistance requests for an LSA grant application. It was on the heels of the board approving a $2,000 for every fire company servicing the township to go and hire themselves a grant writer for additional opportunities as well. Unfortunately, since that outreach back at the beginning of this month on August 5th, we haven't been able to connect, but we do plan on meeting the first week of September Once all of our schedules are aligning, so hopefully next month I will have a better update for everybody about that. that runs from I think September until November. November, right? Yeah, there is time. And the township was also reached out to by Deep Run Sports to put in an application for them as well.. And of course, with our renovations, we may also be putting one in for our house. You should be a. LSA expert. Okay. Thank you. Can you a motion to table that are you? I'm good. There is no formal action on that. There's no resolution for consideration. And then next item on new business 10 H supervisor Metzinger had asked to get on the agenda. I'm turning it over to you. I just figured it was just to run through. I don'tivate and can talk through these, I think, in more detail when the budgets. I just want to make sure got in there. consideration. One was similar to. Buckingham. All right, the township to the north., adding a potential for a position of director for emergency management to help with all of our fire analysis and DMSM, really giving us somebody additional to help guide us through, whatever that next, stuff looks like, I don't, the future buyer, I', it's a plumead. Plumstead, is an example, that's kind of where we get that.. Okay. Just one thing I was hoping to add for debate at later time, the second was just a reminder, a request to you show budgets and the scenario that have our LST matching, our EMS funding. So I think we can tie that historically to some extent to fund EMS, but I think that's one way we can in general increaseS funding is ahead of PalTT. Need talk about a tax aside? So yeah, so LT has to. We talked about before. Yeah, it has to be used for emergency services. because we have a police department, we want to kind of consider a part of that as fund for that. Okay. And some of these, Jim, I think you had passed along water and sewer uses a like a text message service. These are just reminders, honestly. On that one, I shared that information at the. Ed was looking at it. We got quotes. Yeah. And just before I just stated that, I think we should get a laser pointer for the.. I think we have one. Do we have one? I mean, I' just that's not a big ticket out a book. I just make sure. I know we had talked previously about some enhancements to like a website and streaming capabilities. Just make sure that's in there. I don't know how expensive it would be, but if we're contemplating a referendum, make sure we have some level of bucket for whatever that for the professional bees. I don't know if there's other costs that come along with that, but for notating, that we one, you could have that covered off.. And then.. I can send a an example, but basically like a five year capital. plan break out of because we we obviously we have a decent amount of cash and I had a lot of questions with between buildings, France and buyer trucks, and EMS and all you know, all these things going on. I want to make sure that kind of have that plan in place and lay that out and work detail. But I think it's useful, it'll be very useful. Well, it's best practice, but it'll be very useful going into this year. Given that the siz what we have. That was it. I appreciate it. I think I had good luck with the five year capital plans. Stuff just seems to blow it up. I've used it more as a reminder type of type of a thing, you know? I just I haven't had good luck, but stuff I'm dealing with is in a lot more hostile environment than what. If we're dealing with self. Thanks, Joe. Yeah. Okay. Nope.. Throw down to Jack for conditional music? Yes, so I have a lot of the residents now. The township has experienced some development pressure in the industrial industrial this year. one of the ways to maybe bring some of that in in terms of getting a closer look at the applications and having more input from the residents is to have more of these be admitted by condition use just rather than use sp. There are, if I remember, my account correctly, I think for two different uses permitted in some district Uses in the in. Again, number permitted by right, by conditioning user by special exception. A lot of those are permitted by right. So one of the of the traditional ways of conventional ways of, you know, getting those uses running out through better than get better than around those is to send up to use process and have a hearing where those use sell, you could be a look at the conditionally use provisions of the ordance, they are probably outdated. I say, I'm pretty sure they're outdated. They probably have. So I'll be looking for from theers autori state to that, so we put that this form and pass an ordinance that would give us some modernized conditional use provisions, along with an enhancement or an addition or whatever you want to say it. The inclusion of more uses as conditional uses. particularly for the LI and HI districts. point on this, which Jackie, you, I know you said it a million times to give some of the recent projects that have come through. It's important to remind everyone that we have to provide for all legal uses within the township. That's correct. So if a township would decide that some some use they didn't like, like quarry I don't farm, so I don't pick something that you know, if this studies were free to zone out, that legal use, essentially we would have no for forms. So the way the law you know, that for that is it requires all municipalities to zerm in some way for allegal uses.. You have to permit it by rape, you have to permit it either by right or by conditioned use, by special exception, by some mechanism. So, you know, Hilltown is compared to micipality actually are industrial districts compared distance. compared to compared to, you know, but we do have to provide for those uses that are going to be that's typically where those impactful uses go in the industrial districts. And then this is just a tool for us to kind of know this is just a tool for us to kind of if you take it through conditional you for again for the benefit of there's unfamiliar issueing use process is really a hearing on a permitting use of the use itself is permitted by the applicant for conditional use as to come to the township or one establishhes the uses indeed the conditional use that you're talking about. and and then have a hearing in front of this board um the to one percent evidence to that that and then you discuss the impact rays and how it would affect the community so that in addition to if provided it is to use said, um, you know, can be mitigated um, you know, and and make that, uh, you know, have that opportunity for the only to participate and for the board to sort of protect you properlyraft. so on. So, um, you know, we shift some of those permitted by right, where you the use of be allowed by permit over to this conditional use proceedings, then we're probably going to get a better end product development wise to take a look at that looking for motions to authorize, to paralyzeions and inclusions of what more. He says we can add other condition use. So there or second. Chief. See you,.. Hi, Chris. report, we had a total total incidence of 37. seven criminal fensive, rather hyper there were six arrests, threeines, three four defenses and four. issued two citations and two voings, and 30 accidents. The township we handle 829 incidents, 61 cri old dress and 29 criminal offenses and 29 ofrests the issued eight c citations and 18, 108 warnings. investigated 44 accidents, several of those were reportable and then 279. Two of them were D wide related crashes. We had uh just under 120 hours of training. traveled and uh 12,279 miles. And we had 100 hours of overtime, 67 of those forver was. The speed study on Mill Road, I have all theated collected for that, and I just don't have in a form that anybody't understand at this point. Um, I do have all that data first all the data we collect discussrising steel is by the full 55 miles an hour, um we only had two vehicles. There was tra we trave on device and it was something in which was pretty main considering a speed limit, a little such. So um we're and we're only five traffic acciden which is also surpris in three group. So, I will get that memo typed up and prepared and get that to the manager for you consideration. for bus control, for June, there were, uh ten violations were used and all ten of those were approved by the uh reviewed and all ten will approved by the officers. We also, we started school next week. We're building the going after this high binaries of violation. and hidden them pretty hard. So they'll actually get citations that from an officer versus through busrol program. Also, going back to the building plans, I greatly appreciate the board considering moving forward with the project. I realized so long way from approval process, but understanding their deficiency to the building and the trustees some concerns safety and can accessibility and stuff great issue. so with that said, anybody have any questions for? My question, but uh never replied your email. I don't think, but I just want to thank you for theAash plan for the Park event, the movie park for that put it. I don't know, you said it was a kind of initial anything cut it, but I think it would be very I. I'll get a better.. Yeah, appreciate that. I. I have a good job public works... Thank you. Hey, Chris, real quick, if we go ahead with the police side, will that allow you to update the millroad speed study quicker? It will, okay.. here comes me. quick, exciting stuff here, um we got our soult bits back over the year. We got to worry salt like everything off the you know, and now at the time. seems for a lot, but when you're wor 25 tons of salt that but really like everything it's just long. our heat program will start Wednesday, November 4, if from time Memorial, it's all we started it Wednesday after our ele day, um we're gonna try to do some severance of a schedule this year, very difficult with weather conditions, other municipalities do it and what makes Hilltown different. Every other local municipality does one to two pickups a year. We operate under the premise of every Hilltown ri two. So it's very hard to adhere to a schedule when you're trying to perform and provide such a high level service where we're picking up leads nonop five days a week. Uh, and with that being said, if we can come up with something where we're putting the roads out that we're doing a week at a time, even four or five days at a time, we're gonna do our best to do that. we try at least schedule, what happened was we gave everybody, say, a window of seven days, we were gonna be in section one. Well, we could get Section one done a day and a half because we were dry, they didn't really have a mouth. People were waiting until the last day to put them out. and then we were already be on the section, too. It was not like we can just gear down, get out a leaf and and go do something else. So, it really, really inered us the last time we adhered to like a you know, let's a real world schedule, but we're gonna do our best this year to come out with something so that everybody's kind of on the same page with one we're gonna be out and all that stuff. maybe if we get this tests would help up and running. Yeah. I think you should do the Santa Claus thing with the fire department does. real time.. we thought about it about it was where we're at? we thought about it, I think it would be that. It's almost the only way to keep everybody happy because it is full belie collection. So it's difficult to be right at front in front of somebody's house when they want us to be there and wind and so like I said, we'll do our best to kind of get some sort of severance of a schedule together. and if here to it, but it makes it difficult. And the people been pretty understanding over the years? every year we never, you know, it's just when you least, you know sorry, put them out get them. and within three to four days we'll come get them. So it works out, well. two things, uh I guess a week or so ago now, uh, my guys were able to raise enough money this year to support two need children over at rest elementary, we were some very generous donations, uh, and it made a lot to me. They were really involved and they really wanted to get behind it. So if we were able to get only school supplies and gift cards for new sneakers, clothing, et cetera. We dropped out off last week and did elementary school and then we facilitate that for the guidance council, there you go and in turn, drop off the need family, so I was happy about that. and then the next event that we're doing voluntary event, it's called a sunny Day event, the state police put it on. We were in Dublin fire department. So what it is is it's a day of pain captured and adults kind of interacting a day with touch of truck stuff where they get in the truck on the horn and we go over with them, what does what we did last year and really not know what to expect. We had an absolute blast. So we're gonna do that again this year and that's all in October 17th. So. That's it. How many trucks we send over bud? last year we had break and tobacco. Okay. and it's on Saturday, my guy's volunteer to do it, so it works something pretty well. great. fun. Thanks. Thank you. Park and wreck, update, we did not a meeting, but we did have our first movie in the park, which was amazing. We were a little nervous because it was canceled for its initial date, and we went with the rain date. We still had the estimateszer tough, but some people say a couple hundred people, 200 people at least show up, uh, with watching movies. There's an awesome day. um people are still and we were very use the outcome. Okay. mayors update. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Uh, first is an update on the Mincy Trail route 113 temporary traffic light application that we have been with Pendoff for consideration. Um Pendot did provide an update to our traffic engineer that they would proceed with the review of the temporary signal um with haste to minimize the amount of time to get the signal installed so that there would be a benefit before the roundabout planning starts to get um up and going at the beginning of the year, which is really very, very positive. So our traffic engineer is going to continue to submit revisions and um just make sure that everything is buttoned up on the application so that Penn dot can move that through. And then once we have a green light, we have already secured a vendor to go in and do the installation through co-stars. So we are ready to go as soon as they give us the okay. So we are very, very excited about that progress. item 14 B the upcoming blood drive. Our next township event excuse me, um, is the blood drive coming up on August 27th?. Oh, which is this Thursday from 10 AM to 3:00 p.m, and that will be in this room, the meeting room. um, during that time frame. So we hope that we have a good turnout, we have about seven people registered so far, so we do hope to get a few more coming in. and it is sponsored by American right across. That is it for me. Thank you very much. Supervisor Thomas. Can we can we come up the agendas? When do we want cut off the stuff to thea? Like, what I know we've discussed it before about when do we specifically want cut off? Now again, there could be additions because of emergency and things like that, but I like that in snow. I think the goal is to have it pubish up before published the release to us.. Oh, I'm sorry. I't say that I won't. How longus. for the meeting. I believe pregnant wrong the request was that it's in our hands by Thursday's normally planning commission Monday on, it takes some time to get materials and things like that. So then Thursday. How much lead time do you need? Yeah. so historically we have requested that any agenda items that are going on be turned in by Wednesday, um submitted through email with support so that I can get a packet together and fill that back to the board that's the same for um any of the updates that are on the agenda. So I would need anything that's going on the agenda by Wednesday and then I can get you a copy of the agenda by Thursday. And then the packet might take until Friday, but I'll get you a copy of the agenda by Thursday.? Okay, the com. up, sir. I think that a couple things huh? Chuck Felicit, Diamond street. the project, 8 and half million project on the on this building. Now, does that affect, uh if you do it in, face in the face does that affect the uh grand acquisition at all? Yes. it really depends. um so we could go for a couple different grants,akby is one that we have considered going for. um and getting on the schedule for allowances for that grant opportunity. uh USDA as well as the LSA and then um there are also some specialized grants for emergency service type renovations that we would be going for. So if we do phase it out, um we would obviously go for those grants first, um but the schedule of allowances for Rqby, we would probably put it on as an umbrella project, just to to cover for future phases. I guess I kind of into this I guess you ultimately wanna kind of finance it with with grant money as much as possible, maybe not 100%, but 90%? If you have a ballpark figure. 9 would be great. I think that might be a little optimistic. What do you think in 60, 70? Yeah, I would say 60, seven maybe 70 to 75% would be ideal. but it depends on what we can what we can get. second. Okay. Thanks. I really like this idea about this would be condition use thing, I you know, I brought this up this idea of after the retirement bill built controversy years ago, that last week let me use, you know, I think, you know,irement village of PC is it a by right, we have to be a conditioning, you know, I kind of like think of whenever there's like a a controversy with with within the uh the plane commission level. It's like they should look for what what is it that that caused this hiccup in the in the uh boardinance or theem which I want. and uh let's try to fix it and this this is a great little fixing I think, as long as, you know, it's legal. and it's it's been certainly legal. I mean, you couldn't make every use a condition use, you have to beution. But I yes, the we're gonna look at a comprehensively, though it is the the events in the the heavy industrial sort of fert on the shirt. and I would I I think also maybe move retirement village controversy would could exper that on too. Maybe maybe it didn't but did for in my mind. Anyway, the uh third thing I wanted to talk about the open space thing. um, that was that was didn't in November 2000 it was a uh it was by referendum that was it was brought on and and and by using I3 of 1996. and and then that act was updated related it was enhanced and 2013 that 115 probably shouldn't I don't know if you're familiar with that, didn't you? You probably are if you. I number. But that was where they said that no open space tax that was a approved by referendum, could be taken away by ordin sir, or any kind of municipal action. It had to be by referendum again. so so this this the space referendum has never been taken away. It its only been suspended at this point. So the next is is my belief that possibly and and for the solicitor to apply on this, that I I think that, you know, but I I think that it might be all that it is needed is at the next pledge introduced is say, we're gonna we're gonna reinstate it. is that I have to some degree already, the initial thing we find out is the over. be removed by referendum as well. There's some curious in the act that talks about, you know, removed or reimposed or reimposed, like does that any of thesepaper law, you know, what does that language means, I concern with the idea of just turning it back on is that it is the decision to impose that task was by electorate from 200 whatever, you know, a long time ago. folks are the same. And that would be my my concern, but I am looking into that idea further, but that that's my worry that you know, you you're taking on tax obligation, um, that is is required by a certain procedure here and the procedure is really to ask the voters. And now we haven't asked these voters. we haven't asked, you know, we would the the S was to voters a long time ago and they said, but you're not the same voters. I think it's important to find out what the pulse of people is. That's, you know, but is is a a referendum needed for that, and I and it's a legal question I'm gonna it's a good question it's something that I don't think it's one of those sort of between the cracks thing questions that has been hard to find so far any definitive, I think I think we should a case that case that is where you really need to havele and there hasn't been? Well, I you know, I'm looking I'm looking at it from, you know, hasn't been litigated and I'm not finding anything. Okay... Anyone else come come on up, sir? Not. fire in Park near his first appearance. this weekend and Saturday, Friday, we have 25th uh anniversary for our company by in 7 PM. and we also have another fundraiser at Jason's Barbecue. Saturday at 6 pm to 9 PM.ug in.. So the first the first one, sorry, first on this Friday, Friday, 5 PM to 7 PMm. is a car show and a like a dutch truck and we have a concert after 7 p.m. Is that our stationary park in Saturday. And then the second one? The second one is Jess barbecue? Yep. that is Saturday, from 6 pm to nine Friday 9 pm. Which park was that you said? a rotary Park of Saturday community Park? Is that the police station? Oh, okay. I got you. yep, okay. Thank you.. Thank you. Anyone else public car? Okay. seeing none, no press. Motion to adjourn add 901 So much for a second. Sorry. in favor. A. Thank you for sticking it out tonight, guys. Appreciate it.