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The town of Hinton respectfully

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acknowledges that it is located on the

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first people's traditional lands. We

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recognize this traditional territory to

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show respect and understanding to those

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who walked through times since time

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immemorial. [clears throat]

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Today we uphold our ongoing

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responsibility to work together in the

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spirit of the intent of the treaties

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with all the first peoples and nations

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that call this place home. The town

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expresses gratitude for the opportunity

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to build a better community on these

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sacred lands for generations to come. I

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now call this meeting to order at 4 p.m.

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any additions or amendments to the

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» No changes.

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» Oh, yes. I'm sorry. Uh, adoption of

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agenda that committee adopt the agenda

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as presented. If you could please vote

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» Hearing from MD Campbell, there is

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nobody on the line for a minute with

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council. So we can move on to reports

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from administration 4.1

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council action pending list review.

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» Thank you chair to the rest of

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committee. So after last meeting where

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we approved the strategic and the

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tactical plan, we've taken another look

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at the council action pending list and

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we wanted to make sure that everything

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was updated and everything was aligned

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to ensure that administration was

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working on the most or the latest

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direction provided by council through

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those strategic and tactical plans.

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items that aren't in alignment or a

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little bit duplicative of what we had in

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our tactical plan. So, we wanted to just

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clean this list up. We wanted to

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eliminate all of the ones that you see

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are highlighted on page five and six. uh

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we are recommending for those to be

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rescended as we have

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we have direction on those items that

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are that is slightly different through

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our tactical guid that was all we've

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talked about most recently with this

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council and that's what we should be

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working with um but if there's any other

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questions on uh on this list I'd be

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any and council chambers.

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» So, a lot of these I mean they're pretty

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straightforward. I think they make good

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sense based on the work that we've done.

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which talks about the proposed

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conditions of sale report to a committee

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at the whole meeting for that one

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through the process of the fact that we

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would be looking at the you know sale of

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other lands that we would naturally be

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looking at um conditions of sale like is

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that still something that's going to

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come to council with the remainder of

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the lands that are that are not for sale

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committee. So 3830. Yes, this one is

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still this one is one that is still

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relevant. It's just the timeline has

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changed a little bit. Uh we did put the

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infill uh the infill lands on hold.

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new direction from the tactical plan.

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essentially, but that is something that

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a little less than 3 months. Council

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should be seeing that relatively soon,

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but we have that uh dictated by the

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timelines in our tactical plan.

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think that's important when we think

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about, you know, potential ways to

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attract faster faster builds or, you

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know, maybe it's affordable prices or

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whatever whatever looks like that we

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» So that no other motion needs to be made

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in order for that to come back. It's

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coming back as part of the tactical plan

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to a committee meeting for discussion.

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broader sense too with Slenderlands

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kind of together when we bring it

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forward but by the end of this quarter

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uh those reports will be here and we'll

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have set those uh is is our timelines

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that we have through the tactical plan.

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sure we didn't have to replace that or

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clarify that motion at all. I'm good.

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committee seeks consensus to requesting

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administration bring back a draft

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outline of the land acquisition

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management policy. Um

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that's not going to be in our tactical

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plan. I don't even know what

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that is, but I know we're now talking

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about doing potentially some land

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acquisition. Is that something that we

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should sort of stay on top of

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committee? Uh certainly can be. We we've

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different because we've kind of pecked

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around the issue. Um I don't know if

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haven't actually brought forward a

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policy when it comes to land acquisition

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or management. Um I I think part of the

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hesitancy of bringing it forward is that

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we're hoping to get a little bit more

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information about what the intent behind

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that was and what we're looking to

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accomplish uh throughout the process of

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the infill and more discussions but um

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but we haven't included that I don't

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have we included that uh Miss Borvo in

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uh reserve strategy for land acquisition

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a mention of it I I know that we had

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direct correlation for land but I don't

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recall the exact wording in the policy.

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question, but we haven't really uh you

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know got to the heart of this issue, but

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if this is something that is still

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relevant in council's mind to talk about

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land acquisition and the policy that is

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going to dictate how we do that, how we

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manage those lands and on what basis do

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we acquire new lands for example, then I

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would say that this should

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likely stay on or at least be

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possibly rescended and rewarded, but to

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keep that part of the the motion

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included. But I can just follow up. I

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um made one for as often as it happens,

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but the um I know we have some potential

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acquisition coming up or so we should,

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you know, what governs that

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through the chair. um really don't have

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a it's really not governed by policy.

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these things on kind of a one-off basis

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just to due to the fact that we really

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don't do it very often. Um you know, we

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don't carry a lot of land. um the land

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we've decided on a strategy that we're

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going to try and you know sell or tried

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to use that for uh you know for possible

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development. So we haven't

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perspective is always going to come to

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didn't know if that was something that

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was 75% of the way being complete, but

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the 4018, the very first item. The due

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the advocacy document but we are

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planning on bringing that to a committee

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of the whole meeting but it was bunked

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from this meeting to the next committee

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» Okay. Thank you. And just for my own

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benefit, with the due dates like May 5th

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automatically put it on the agenda if

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it's complete or does it just get

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municipalities resolution on balancing

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incentives. So that's due on May 5th.

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agenda to be discussed or would it just

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these due dates and we keep track of

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them by it automatically populates it in

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the agenda. Okay. Um, and then when we

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go to the agenda prep meetings with the

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mayor and deputy, we'll talk about those

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items and if for some reason it's not

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» Thank you. And then the last one is

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strategic plan,

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» Okay, that's it. Thank you, Councelor

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» Yeah. Um for me, I just wanted to build

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off of um what the mayor talked about

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with 354 and land acquisition policy. I

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would be really concerned at this point

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to to build one because although it

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should come to council, if it's also the

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spoke scope of the policy, then it

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really shouldn't come to council. And I

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think um I think admin if there's

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opportunity to have a acquisition to

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support whatever the initiative is

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whether it's housing whether it's rec

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center I I would want the administration

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have a pretty wide birth or scope to to

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bring back a lot of things even if they

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might fall might be different than what

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will fall under a policy I

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[clears throat] think to until Hinton

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shows a sustained year-over-year growth

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um I don't know that a land acquisition

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policy at this point would really it,

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you know, it's kind of having a area

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structure plan for 40,000 people. It it

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doesn't really do a whole bunch until

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you're you know, you're getting there.

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So, um I'm very happy to see this go.

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We've got a lot of the land acquisition

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conversations happening right now and a

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pretty aggressive strategic plan around

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housing and rec center and um I I want

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to see what what can come back even if

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it you know it's it's hard to know what

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would fall within or without or outside

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of scope for a land acquisition

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policies. Happy to see that one go.

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Thank you.

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Um, I am going to make a motion that

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council refer the council action pending

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list report to the next regular council

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meeting.

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» Committee refer the council action

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pending list report the next regular

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council meeting.

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The chair just one question. Is that as

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presented?

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» Uh as presented.

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» Thank you.

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» Do the committee need to redo the

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[clears throat]

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that committee refer the council action

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pending list report to the next regular

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council meeting as presented.

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And that is

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thank you.

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So now we will move on to doing

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municipal support for health care

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administration.

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» Thank you chair.

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So the

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this conversation is coming back to

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committee. uh we did bring it forward um

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earlier this year to really just talk

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about what do we want the go forward

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plan to be when it comes to municipal

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support for our healthcare industry if

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if any. Um at that point in time,

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council had directed us to go back to a

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um

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to just reignite some

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input from the local physician. So we've

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included that as an attachment. We've

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also included the uh the summary of the

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engagement process that we had started

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last year.

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The so really what this is this is in

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front of committee to decide on what

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options do we want to entertain when it

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comes to supported healthcare again if

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any. Uh the one big thing that has

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shifted and we've included that this as

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attachment three is that the Hinton

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Healthcare Foundation has provided a

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letter to us to look to

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propose maybe an alternative arrangement

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or maybe an we'll call it an execution

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arm when it comes to supporting

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healthcare and using the healthcare

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foundation to be able to provide that. I

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think that there's still say from

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council and committee in what options

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we're willing to support as a council.

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Um but I think that the Hinton

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Healthcare Foundation coming forward and

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uh indicating their intent to become a

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civic agency for the purpose of

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implementing this is an option on how we

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actually put these programs into place

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and how do we do it. Um, you know,

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again, council still has the ultimate

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say of what options or how do we want to

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support healthcare. Uh, we have broken

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it out into a couple different

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categories on how we could do that.

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We've

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separated between individual incentives,

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so we incentivize the physicians

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themselves. We've broken it out into

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corporate level incentives. Uh, and

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there's a number of other options that

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we haven't looked into in a in a lot of

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detail, but they are there and we could

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look at investigating those if council

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so chooses. So, it's here for council to

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to discuss and uh we're here for any

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questions.

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» Okay.

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So,

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so there was the 1 million

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funding contribution

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uh originally set out for July 2024 to

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2025 is 500,000 and then 2025 to 2026

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500,000.

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Um so on

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the direction request form it says in

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2024 council authorized 7500 towards

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creation from the traction retention

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committee. Was that 7500 pardon part of

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the 500,000?

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» No that was separate that was separate

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» That that decision was made before the

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agreement for the million.

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» Oh okay. I believe. Yeah.

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» Okay. And then the the money that is in

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the letter where it talks about in 2025

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alone we contributed over 100,000 to

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position attraction and retention. This

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is the uh civic agency support letter.

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Does that money have anything to do with

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the 500,000 over the the million over

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the two years

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» Through the chair note? My understanding

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is this is what the Hinton Healthcare

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Foundation has been spending to support

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physicians um

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last year.

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» Okay. So they're they're requiring that

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through fundraising.

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[clears throat]

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» Yeah. Through fundraising or there other

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u their other methods, but that wasn't

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included as part of our contributions.

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» Okay.

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» Just a comment. Um and correct me if I'm

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wrong. Under on the page nine of 21, it

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says relevant details for council's

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knowledge related provincial programs

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and position compensation funding

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included

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positions and hinting part of the rural

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remote northern program which enables

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positions to build to help additional

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12.1%.

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From what I read that hasn't been

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updated since 2020 has a Has anyone

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heard anything about maybe that being

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looked at or reviewed?

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That's how I read it wasn't updated

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since 2020. on page nine of 29

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in the middle there where it talks about

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12.1% too.

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» I'm just asking a question because I

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thought that was interesting to read

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that

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» And the you mean the physician

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compensation

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» Framework? Yes, the rural remote

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program.

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» I'm not aware of any changes to that

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program.

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» Okay. And then number two and three from

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what I could see they're they're no

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longer current or existing

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from what I could find. I just let

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» Yeah.

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» So the rural teen recruitment grant

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program was the deadline was October

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2025 and I didn't see any renewal on

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that and the rural remote family

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medicine resident position bary was

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closed December 2025 and I didn't see

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anything on that either. So just saying

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there might be other funding out there,

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but from what I can tell these are done.

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» Yeah, through the through the chair. I'm

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not sure if these I know all of these

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programs existed as of last year. I

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don't know if they've even announced the

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funding on these. Um whether they

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continue with new intakes. I really

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don't know. Um I believe that the rural

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and family medicine uh physician bery,

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that's a longstanding program that's

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existed for a long time. I would imagine

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that that would likely to continue. The

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rural team recruitment grant, um I think

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that one is maybe less likely because

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that one never existed up until 2025, I

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believe. So, that one was something that

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the province came out with that was

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relatively new. So, but again, I you

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know, we don't uh stay on top of these

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programs uh very often. So,

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» Okay. Thanks. So I just noticed that.

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» Y

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» Um so some of the at the end of May uh

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we're actually going to lose um

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provincial funding, additional funding

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that we had for um anesthesiologists.

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So I don't know what kind of an impact

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that's going to have on Hinton. Um now

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I put it out there. I mean I have some

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background as it relates to the Hinton

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Healthcare Foundation. I mean, is it

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appropriate for me to share that?

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[clears throat]

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So, the 500,000 or sorry, the million

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dollars was to stabilize the operation

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of the clinic. That's done now. And

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[clears throat] the healthcare

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foundation is pretty comfortable that

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we're going to now be able to operate

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that clinic without additional support.

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But table stakes for doctors to come to

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him and all that other funding

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consideration aside is that they get six

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months free accommodation

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and that's pretty much every community

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[clears throat] every rural community in

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Alberta is offering that. So we have

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potentially five new doctors coming to

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Hinton over the next

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months.

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So, their overhead at the clinic's

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$4,500 a month. If you build $2,500 a

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month in rent, $6,000

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six-month period is 36 grand to bring in

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docking in.

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So, whether that um all of that funding

519
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is in place or not,

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physicians come to our community with an

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expectation that those things get

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covered off. So last year the healthc

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care foundation spent about $138,000

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to um to fund those sorts of things and

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that did come from you know

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uh money on hand fundraising.

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Um but if we have five new doctors

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coming to town that budget's going to

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bump up to be

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a lot. And so, um,

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the intent of the civic agency letter is

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not that the town of Hint would

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necessarily cover all of that, but to

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partner with the healthcare foundation

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for a portion of that because there's

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going to be a push with industry as well

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to get some support there.

538
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» But those costs are real costs. Those

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doctors are coming and one way or

540
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another, the community needs to figure

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out how to cover that off. So,

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Council

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Ch.

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» Thank you through the chair. So I I

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think kind of reviewing all of this and

546
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going through from being part of the

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original

548
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million dollar first ask and and the

549
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concerns from the community that you

550
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know, well, they're going to ask for

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this $500,000 a year and it's never

552
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going to end and we shouldn't be doing

553
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that. I think it's encouraging to see

554
00:23:54,480 --> 00:24:00,080
that that did the job it was supposed to

555
00:23:56,799 --> 00:24:05,720
do. Um, I'm [clears throat] I I like

556
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:05,720
that and I quite frankly

557
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:10,640
I I do like the thought of a civic

558
00:24:08,799 --> 00:24:14,000
agency agreement with the healthcare

559
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:15,679
foundation because it has it provides

560
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:17,919
within itself that ability that this is

561
00:24:15,679 --> 00:24:21,919
still coming back every year for a

562
00:24:17,919 --> 00:24:23,919
decision from council and and although

563
00:24:21,919 --> 00:24:25,760
the healthcare foundation does a good

564
00:24:23,919 --> 00:24:27,039
job of their other means of getting

565
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,400
funding through industry and through

566
00:24:27,039 --> 00:24:32,159
fundraisers and through different

567
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:33,679
things, you know, it disproportionately

568
00:24:32,159 --> 00:24:35,919
it's not everybody kind of chipping in

569
00:24:33,679 --> 00:24:37,600
with the same amount towards something

570
00:24:35,919 --> 00:24:38,960
like it would be as a civic agency. It

571
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:42,960
kind of disproportionately comes from

572
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:44,880
these these different avenues. So I I

573
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:47,279
don't know that I'm ready to necessarily

574
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:49,679
make a consensus on it, but I I do like

575
00:24:47,279 --> 00:24:53,039
that in theory because

576
00:24:49,679 --> 00:24:55,679
just from my very small term in council,

577
00:24:53,039 --> 00:24:57,039
I have seen quite a big evolution of,

578
00:24:55,679 --> 00:24:58,320
you know, when I was first elected in

579
00:24:57,039 --> 00:25:00,720
the bi-election to where we're sitting

580
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:02,799
today. So I think that civic agency

581
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:05,039
piece gives us that ability to

582
00:25:02,799 --> 00:25:09,520
continually pivot as we grow out of this

583
00:25:05,039 --> 00:25:11,840
problem. Um, I I agree with Mayor Le

584
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:15,120
that I I don't think it's should be all

585
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:16,880
of our, you know, all on council or all

586
00:25:15,120 --> 00:25:19,840
of the taxpayers to be doing this, but I

587
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:21,760
I think it is a a realistic expectation

588
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:24,400
of what's going on within the community.

589
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:26,240
And I I think I I would support some

590
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:28,159
type of civic agency agreement because

591
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:30,640
of that ability for us to continue to

592
00:25:28,159 --> 00:25:32,559
pivot annually, up, down, wherever we

593
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:34,559
feel we need to be as council going

594
00:25:32,559 --> 00:25:37,440
forward. So

595
00:25:34,559 --> 00:25:40,000
that's all council done.

596
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:42,640
» Just a clarifying question for me. So

597
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:47,799
did you say $4,500

598
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:47,799
overhead for each physician each month?

599
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:52,880
» Now that's that's so they pay a

600
00:25:51,039 --> 00:25:55,120
percentage of their billings to a

601
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:57,360
maximum month. Okay.

602
00:25:55,120 --> 00:25:59,760
» That's how that's how the clinic runs.

603
00:25:57,360 --> 00:26:02,240
That's that's how we're going to be able

604
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:04,960
to operate the place

605
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:08,080
uh without additional input. The doctors

606
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:11,200
are going to pay. So what the healthcare

607
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:13,600
foundation has done is formed a separate

608
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:16,960
nonprofit which will have a separate

609
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:18,640
board. So it's going to have um not a

610
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,240
board of volunteers but a board of

611
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,840
professionals. So we want to have an HR

612
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:25,360
person and have a finance person. We can

613
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:27,279
have a marketing person and have a so

614
00:26:25,360 --> 00:26:30,320
to try and get a professional board put

615
00:26:27,279 --> 00:26:32,720
together so that it's actually a selling

616
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:34,240
feature coming in. We have a clinic

617
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:37,840
where you can go there as a physician

618
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:39,760
and make money and um uh you know

619
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:43,440
professional manager to come in and run

620
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:47,279
the place. Um and again that's all going

621
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:50,080
to be um uh provided as part of the

622
00:26:47,279 --> 00:26:52,720
package from the from the healthcare

623
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:55,440
foundation.

624
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:57,520
» Just a followup question.

625
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:59,919
» That was something that I I I was

626
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:02,559
questioning I guess with the civic um

627
00:26:59,919 --> 00:27:05,120
agency piece. So this would be the same

628
00:27:02,559 --> 00:27:07,679
group of people like the um mountain

629
00:27:05,120 --> 00:27:11,760
bike club and the disc golf and that

630
00:27:07,679 --> 00:27:15,200
list right? And so do we have I know it

631
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:16,960
says like with the so the action was the

632
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,799
recommend action committee direct

633
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,000
administration to draft a civic agency

634
00:27:18,799 --> 00:27:21,600
agreement with the hint healthcare

635
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,440
foundation that includes the options of

636
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,720
direct assens of incentives

637
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,720
accommodation support and clinic

638
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:28,880
overhead subsidy and return to future

639
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:30,720
comms

640
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:32,799
there's no direction where the money is

641
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:35,679
going from that end. Could we not just

642
00:27:32,799 --> 00:27:37,120
or consider just doing a civic agency

643
00:27:35,679 --> 00:27:39,039
agreement and allowing the healthcare

644
00:27:37,120 --> 00:27:41,760
foundation to decide where the funding

645
00:27:39,039 --> 00:27:43,679
goes

646
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:46,960
» Through the chair and members of the

647
00:27:43,679 --> 00:27:49,200
committee certainly can. You know, we do

648
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,480
we we do have with different groups who

649
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,960
have different arrangements, but there

650
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:55,679
are lots of groups that we just say, you

651
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:57,600
know, we're just providing this as uh

652
00:27:55,679 --> 00:27:59,120
operating funding, right? this is to

653
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:01,200
support your operations for the work

654
00:27:59,120 --> 00:28:03,120
you're doing and uh and we leave it at

655
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,720
that. So we certainly could look at that

656
00:28:03,120 --> 00:28:06,720
arrangement as well.

657
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:08,880
» Um but we still do have some

658
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:11,120
accountability mechanisms built in for

659
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:12,480
the civic agencies. They they do come

660
00:28:11,120 --> 00:28:14,559
forward every year and they talk about

661
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:18,640
what they've done. They talk about where

662
00:28:14,559 --> 00:28:22,000
they they've used um our funding for

663
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:24,080
example. So

664
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:28,159
» Councelor Nelson.

665
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:30,320
» Yeah. For for me I And and oddly hearing

666
00:28:28,159 --> 00:28:32,799
others talk about why civic agencies

667
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:35,039
might be the way to go makes me even

668
00:28:32,799 --> 00:28:36,799
even less likely to support one. You

669
00:28:35,039 --> 00:28:38,399
know, we've talked about this year we

670
00:28:36,799 --> 00:28:40,960
have five doctors coming. Next we might

671
00:28:38,399 --> 00:28:42,960
have one, we might have 20, which the

672
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:46,960
civic agency meant to really levelize

673
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:49,520
and build a consistent um kind of amount

674
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:51,520
of funding. And so if there's been a big

675
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,799
evolution over the last two years, well,

676
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:55,039
there's probably going to be a big

677
00:28:52,799 --> 00:28:59,360
evolution over the next two years as

678
00:28:55,039 --> 00:29:02,000
well. And so to me, if the civic agency

679
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:03,200
process isn't to a point where it's

680
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:06,320
going to be quite consistent

681
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:10,640
year-over-year yet, um I would much

682
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:12,720
rather it come forward through OBC's. Um

683
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:15,200
there's a couple things that happen when

684
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:16,720
when a council says, "Here's here's what

685
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:20,880
we want to support the Hinton Healthcare

686
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:23,360
Foundation with um

687
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:25,200
on an ongoing basis." Uh, and I've seen

688
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,480
it happen with every other civic agency

689
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,159
when they come back to council and say,

690
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,520
"Hey, we want to do this or take on this

691
00:29:28,159 --> 00:29:31,679
initiative." The first thing is like,

692
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:36,399
"Well, we already we like you're already

693
00:29:31,679 --> 00:29:40,399
taken care of." Um, the other part is if

694
00:29:36,399 --> 00:29:44,640
we make uh healthcare a civic agency, at

695
00:29:40,399 --> 00:29:48,720
some point if we want offramp, a council

696
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:50,960
needs to vote to get rid of supporting

697
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:53,520
health care in their community. And I

698
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:55,520
never want to that. We

699
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:58,650
six, seven years ago, we tried to

700
00:29:55,520 --> 00:30:00,480
offramp from the museum um and and

701
00:29:58,650 --> 00:30:02,720
[clears throat] kind of push it to to

702
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:04,720
operate as its own and do fundraisers

703
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:07,120
and do all of those things because taxes

704
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:09,679
were uh were tough and we were looking

705
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:12,080
at ways to save uh and seeing how

706
00:30:09,679 --> 00:30:14,720
challenging that was. And that's for uh

707
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:16,720
a museum which is extremely I really

708
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:18,240
enjoy our museum and spend an amazing

709
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:21,279
chunk of time there but I couldn't

710
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:24,000
imagine what that would look like um if

711
00:30:21,279 --> 00:30:26,000
if that was for uh healthc care support

712
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,200
in our community. [clears throat] It's

713
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,279
also something that's not our

714
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:32,720
jurisdiction. We don't have experts at

715
00:30:29,279 --> 00:30:35,120
our table. um which

716
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:36,799
I I I want to see communities offramp

717
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,320
from

718
00:30:36,799 --> 00:30:39,360
doing healthcare because it's a

719
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,279
different level of government's

720
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,960
responsibility and to me the moment we

721
00:30:41,279 --> 00:30:45,039
say this is an annual year over thing

722
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:47,120
that we're accepting that it's just a

723
00:30:45,039 --> 00:30:49,279
part of our thing forever. Um I I think

724
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:52,320
we let other levels of government off

725
00:30:49,279 --> 00:30:54,480
off the hook. So I I would have to come

726
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:56,000
a long ways in my in in my thinking and

727
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,760
and a lot of people I talked to during

728
00:30:56,000 --> 00:31:01,840
the election process about basically

729
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:06,600
committing beyond OBC's for um for

730
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:06,600
healthcare moving forward. Thank you.

731
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:14,399
Um, strategically I completely agree

732
00:31:09,679 --> 00:31:16,720
with what councelor Nelson uh just said

733
00:31:14,399 --> 00:31:20,799
that strategically this letter was put

734
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:23,600
in to to to put in front of council this

735
00:31:20,799 --> 00:31:28,000
real problem challenge that exists right

736
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:30,880
now. And if we get the doctors that we

737
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:34,399
think we're going to get, we're nearly

738
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:38,211
going to be done. And you're right, it's

739
00:31:34,399 --> 00:31:38,799
probably a this year funding issue. And

740
00:31:38,211 --> 00:31:42,399
[clears throat]

741
00:31:38,799 --> 00:31:47,840
um to follow up on what councelor Dunn

742
00:31:42,399 --> 00:31:49,919
said is uh the reason that support for

743
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:52,080
doctor accommodation was put in there

744
00:31:49,919 --> 00:31:56,960
because there's no desire to go beyond

745
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:59,360
that. It's there's this real challenge

746
00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:02,080
that's coming to the healthcare

747
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:06,159
foundation. if we don't figure it out,

748
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:09,760
it's it's it's going to be an issue. And

749
00:32:06,159 --> 00:32:12,320
um so the letters there so that's front

750
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:15,440
in front of council. We knew that this

751
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:19,200
topic was coming and we wanted to get

752
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:21,760
something in front of council so that

753
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:23,120
the healthc care foundation wanted to

754
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:25,840
get something in front of council

755
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:29,120
because it's a it's a real honest to

756
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,120
goodness issue.

757
00:32:30,559 --> 00:32:35,519
you. So, for myself personally, I I

758
00:32:33,039 --> 00:32:36,559
appreciate

759
00:32:35,519 --> 00:32:38,320
quite a bit because I hadn't really

760
00:32:36,559 --> 00:32:40,640
thought about that, but is it something

761
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:43,840
and I guess to counselor Denny's point,

762
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:45,200
I'm I'm more comfortable leaving the

763
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,720
accommodation support and clinic

764
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:49,120
overhead. that that would be important

765
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:52,480
to me in the motion um to be supporting

766
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:54,080
it because I I I believe from what I've

767
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,502
heard from the public when we made the

768
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,039
other motions years prior

769
00:32:55,502 --> 00:32:58,799
[clears throat] that it does need to be

770
00:32:57,039 --> 00:33:00,559
specific because it's a specific

771
00:32:58,799 --> 00:33:03,679
short-term problem. But to

772
00:33:00,559 --> 00:33:05,600
administration, you know, can you put

773
00:33:03,679 --> 00:33:09,039
something forward? So, if you did a

774
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:12,880
variation of option one that said um to

775
00:33:09,039 --> 00:33:14,320
draft a maximum two-year civic agency

776
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,399
agreement, like is that something that

777
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,919
we have within our there's nothing in

778
00:33:16,399 --> 00:33:20,240
the civic agency agreement that would

779
00:33:17,919 --> 00:33:21,679
prevent us from having it now? So, a

780
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,919
decision doesn't have to be made. it

781
00:33:21,679 --> 00:33:25,600
just would end at 2 years and if they

782
00:33:23,919 --> 00:33:28,240
wanted to reapply as a civic agency they

783
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:29,840
would have to do so with some

784
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:32,960
information at that point because then I

785
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:34,000
think it's kind of maybe capturing I

786
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,399
can't speak for you but kind of

787
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:38,960
capturing that okay this just like when

788
00:33:36,399 --> 00:33:40,640
we did the million dollars this is not a

789
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:44,240
year-over-year overyear thing it's

790
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:47,039
accomplishing a goal um for a specific

791
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:49,600
overhead subsidy and whatever it was

792
00:33:47,039 --> 00:33:52,240
accommodation support um but sort of

793
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:54,880
outlining that ahead of time that again

794
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:58,240
we see this as a very important but

795
00:33:54,880 --> 00:34:00,960
temporary motion and I mean I know BC is

796
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:04,159
also possible but I I still don't mind

797
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:05,919
the civic agency

798
00:34:04,159 --> 00:34:07,840
» To the chair members of the committee u

799
00:34:05,919 --> 00:34:10,399
I I believe that's actually standard in

800
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:12,560
our um

801
00:34:10,399 --> 00:34:15,119
our civic agency agreements is they're

802
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:16,560
typically two to three years um but

803
00:34:15,119 --> 00:34:19,200
certainly if we want to look at a

804
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:21,359
timeline uh I would include it in the

805
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:23,679
motion and I think that's really just

806
00:34:21,359 --> 00:34:25,440
part of our job of managing expectation,

807
00:34:23,679 --> 00:34:28,079
right? If if the intent is that this is

808
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:29,599
a two-year thing, we'll reassess at the

809
00:34:28,079 --> 00:34:31,280
end of two years and we'll see where

810
00:34:29,599 --> 00:34:33,200
we're at. I I think we just need to

811
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:36,000
have, you know, a forthright

812
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:37,760
conversation with our partners to say,

813
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:40,240
you know, don't expect this to be

814
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:42,399
ongoing. We, you know, we want to find

815
00:34:40,240 --> 00:34:44,399
that offramp and uh, you know, we can't

816
00:34:42,399 --> 00:34:46,000
continue to fund this forever, but we

817
00:34:44,399 --> 00:34:47,520
understand the short-term challenges.

818
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,760
We're willing to support you for this

819
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:53,119
period of time. So I would say that if

820
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:54,639
we're interested in funding for a a

821
00:34:53,119 --> 00:34:56,159
defined period of time, I would include

822
00:34:54,639 --> 00:34:58,000
that in the motion and that would just

823
00:34:56,159 --> 00:34:59,920
provide us more direction when it comes

824
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:02,160
to

825
00:34:59,920 --> 00:35:03,520
if this is how council wants to proceed

826
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:07,640
with working with the healthcare

827
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:07,640
foundation to come up with an agreement.

828
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:14,720
» Nelson, before I put you in the queue,

829
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:17,680
can I just do a followup question? Um,

830
00:35:14,720 --> 00:35:20,640
why does it have to be a civic agency

831
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:23,200
commitment? Could it is there no other

832
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:25,760
option that we could take this? Just

833
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:28,720
following up on councelor Nelson's

834
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:30,880
comment about discontinuing a civic

835
00:35:28,720 --> 00:35:33,839
agency once it's been established. Is

836
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:37,760
there no other option that we have where

837
00:35:33,839 --> 00:35:40,000
we could still support the the the

838
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:43,599
funding that's necessary without it

839
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:46,400
going through a civic agency

840
00:35:43,599 --> 00:35:48,960
» Through the chair? Um certainly, but

841
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:50,960
civic agency isn't really a program,

842
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:53,680
right? Civic agency is just a term that

843
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:56,000
we use to define. We have nonprofits

844
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:58,079
that we financially support and then we

845
00:35:56,000 --> 00:36:00,560
just keep that separate as a category

846
00:35:58,079 --> 00:36:04,560
and we look at it as as such. But really

847
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:07,599
all it is is uh we have a contract with

848
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:10,079
these nonprofit groups um that they

849
00:36:07,599 --> 00:36:12,640
provide a service here in town and we

850
00:36:10,079 --> 00:36:14,720
financially contribute towards that. So

851
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:16,880
but really it's just the contractual

852
00:36:14,720 --> 00:36:19,599
relationship if you really just boil it

853
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:22,079
down. Now, I think that, you know, there

854
00:36:19,599 --> 00:36:23,599
may to to council's point, there may be

855
00:36:22,079 --> 00:36:27,000
some,

856
00:36:23,599 --> 00:36:27,000
you know, some

857
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,480
behind the scenes, people anticipate

858
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:32,160
that these are going to be long-term

859
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:35,200
relationships because you're a civic

860
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:38,240
agency and many of our civic agencies

861
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:41,200
have been have been so for a long time.

862
00:36:38,240 --> 00:36:43,119
Um, but I think we're I think that the

863
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:46,000
challenge maybe is just making sure that

864
00:36:43,119 --> 00:36:48,480
we're we're managing expectations on

865
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:50,480
those guidelines, but you know, we do

866
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:53,119
something very similar. I would use

867
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:55,280
STARS as a good example where we we

868
00:36:53,119 --> 00:36:58,560
provide a pledge for a certain amount of

869
00:36:55,280 --> 00:37:00,320
time, right? Um, we don't commit further

870
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:02,079
to that, but we say, you know, we're

871
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,520
we've made a pledge that, you know,

872
00:37:02,079 --> 00:37:06,160
we're going to provide funding for x

873
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:08,160
amount of years. Um, but every year when

874
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:10,640
it comes to budget, council still has to

875
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:12,160
approve that with the the funding

876
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:14,000
included.

877
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:16,880
Very similar to how we deal with civic

878
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:18,560
agencies.

879
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:21,040
» Excellent.

880
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:22,640
» Yeah. I I

881
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:25,680
the other thing that that can get lost

882
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:28,079
if we talk about operational funding. I

883
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:29,920
I want the public to know exactly what

884
00:37:28,079 --> 00:37:32,400
every dollar of healthcare spending goes

885
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:35,280
to. I would much rather see it a two to

886
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:37,760
threeyear budget proposal from hidden

887
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:39,680
healthcare that that council adopts.

888
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:42,320
Obviously, if it's multiple years, we we

889
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:46,079
have that opportunity to but if if it is

890
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:48,240
$36,000 per doctor times five and that

891
00:37:46,079 --> 00:37:50,240
is what comes to council, then it's a

892
00:37:48,240 --> 00:37:52,400
very clear

893
00:37:50,240 --> 00:37:54,160
line of sight from where the tax dollars

894
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:56,960
are going to what it's being used for

895
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:58,480
versus civic agency getting $150,000 of

896
00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:02,240
operational funding for the next two

897
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:04,160
years. And now we've got, you know, a a

898
00:38:02,240 --> 00:38:06,880
professional board and then the healthc

899
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:08,560
care foundation board and councils. Now

900
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:11,200
there's three different boards. And like

901
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:13,440
it just gets it gets messy really quick.

902
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:15,359
And I I believe we need to spend money

903
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:17,280
on healthcare. I don't like it, but we

904
00:38:15,359 --> 00:38:19,520
we need to, but I also think our our

905
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:23,680
citizens need to know exactly what it

906
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:26,960
is, exactly where it's going. And um and

907
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:29,440
I and if you're now it's a civic agency

908
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:31,520
policy with this group and then a

909
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:35,040
contractual agree like we're also adding

910
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:36,560
more layers of administration into

911
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:38,560
um into what's ultimately going to

912
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:41,599
become a budget decision based on facts

913
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:43,200
that are in front of council anyways. Um

914
00:38:41,599 --> 00:38:45,520
and and I would love the public to weigh

915
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:47,680
in on some of these things and and have

916
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:49,599
that discourse that that says yeah this

917
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:52,640
is this is why we have to spend that

918
00:38:49,599 --> 00:38:54,160
money. um versus it it being, you know,

919
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,520
they they come they do their report.

920
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:57,200
It's like we hear what the museum's

921
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:59,119
done, but it's a it's a it's a very

922
00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:02,079
broad thing. It's, you know, we do did

923
00:38:59,119 --> 00:39:04,240
this program or like if they need money

924
00:39:02,079 --> 00:39:06,000
to solve a problem to bring doctors, I

925
00:39:04,240 --> 00:39:08,000
want to know exactly what it is and and

926
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:11,359
where it's where it's going and dollar

927
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:13,680
for dollar. That's just my uh my

928
00:39:11,359 --> 00:39:16,960
reference when it comes to getting

929
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:19,119
people. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. burnt.

930
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:21,040
» So two comments I think that fall along

931
00:39:19,119 --> 00:39:23,200
that line, councelor Nelson is the first

932
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:24,160
thing is a budget

933
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,720
budget

934
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:28,560
» Is putting a budget together and it's a

935
00:39:26,720 --> 00:39:31,280
preference is the healthcare foundation

936
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:34,000
that be linked

937
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:35,920
to doctor combination. That's why it was

938
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,440
put specifically in the letter. I think

939
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:40,560
the other thing that's important from

940
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:43,680
council's for council's consideration is

941
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:45,680
this is noncl clinic specific. That's if

942
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:48,079
a doctor comes to him regardless of

943
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:50,960
where they're going. This is something

944
00:39:48,079 --> 00:39:52,720
that doctors expect. And part of it is

945
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:54,720
it's going to give us six months to get

946
00:39:52,720 --> 00:39:56,480
our feet in the ground and find a house

947
00:39:54,720 --> 00:39:58,960
and they're going to be busy when they

948
00:39:56,480 --> 00:40:01,920
get there. Hopefully they got, you know,

949
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:04,079
2,000 patients and they don't have any

950
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:06,480
time to look for a house for 6 months.

951
00:40:04,079 --> 00:40:09,119
Um, so that's that's part of it, but I

952
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:11,680
think it's important that um that it be

953
00:40:09,119 --> 00:40:13,040
tied specifically this accommodation.

954
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:17,400
That's why it's in the letter. And the

955
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:17,400
second thing is that this is not

956
00:40:18,720 --> 00:40:21,720
» Council.

957
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:29,520
» So if

958
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:34,599
I just I'm curious on page nine of 21

959
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:34,599
um under the direct incentives

960
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:39,520
clinic overhead subsy because I'm just

961
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:40,960
wondering how that would work. uh the

962
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,640
clinical overhead subsidy number two

963
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:44,000
recommend a framework set financial

964
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:47,280
support for new physicians with

965
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:50,079
medically necessary clinical practice.

966
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:52,079
What did that mean to you?

967
00:40:50,079 --> 00:40:54,880
» So really all that means is you know we

968
00:40:52,079 --> 00:40:56,560
know that physicians pay a percentage

969
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:58,960
into the overhead of whatever clinic

970
00:40:56,560 --> 00:41:02,240
they're going to be a part of. Um and

971
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:05,520
this would just be to

972
00:41:02,240 --> 00:41:08,000
to offset that to whatever degree we

973
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:10,400
decide is necessary. But we do that for

974
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,760
medically necessary services.

975
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,520
» Okay. Does that mean like Alberta

976
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:15,200
healthc care services like we did with

977
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,720
the tax incentives?

978
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,240
» Correct. Yep. Same thing.

979
00:41:16,720 --> 00:41:20,880
» Okay.

980
00:41:18,240 --> 00:41:23,040
Thank you.

981
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:28,839
Okay.

982
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:28,839
Maybe any other questions, comments?

983
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:36,920
Do they want to respond to this?

984
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:49,920
I'll see consensus that

985
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:53,680
um committee direct administration to

986
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:56,400
uh advise the healthcare foundation to

987
00:41:53,680 --> 00:42:01,000
bring any budgetary requests as part of

988
00:41:56,400 --> 00:42:01,000
the budget process.

989
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,000
And I [clears throat] think I've spoken

990
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:06,240
to it and I'm I'm trying to put

991
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:09,800
something out there. Uh I'm not super

992
00:42:06,240 --> 00:42:09,800
married to it, but

993
00:42:10,319 --> 00:42:13,319
» So

994
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:23,440
would you expect in something like that

995
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:25,280
then council Nelson to see a budget for

996
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:27,839
probably not going to happen but a

997
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:30,720
budget for a potential accommodation and

998
00:42:27,839 --> 00:42:33,119
what the overhead the clinic overhead

999
00:42:30,720 --> 00:42:36,640
subsidy will may look like. Would you

1000
00:42:33,119 --> 00:42:38,400
expect some of that in the budget?

1001
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:41,280
» I can speak to it. It would be the same

1002
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:44,720
as any other OBC that that comes to us.

1003
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:46,160
It says, "Hey, we need $275,000

1004
00:42:44,720 --> 00:42:48,480
and it's broken up to an AC

1005
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:52,480
accommodation of 36,000 times five

1006
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:54,400
people and 4500 times this and

1007
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:56,400
highlighters and Sharpies in a race like

1008
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:59,839
general like I I would expect it to

1009
00:42:56,400 --> 00:43:01,200
come. Um, and and honestly probably in a

1010
00:42:59,839 --> 00:43:03,119
similar way that if it was a civic

1011
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:04,400
agency, it would be part of that

1012
00:43:03,119 --> 00:43:06,560
anyways. Like I don't actually think

1013
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:08,079
what we would see would be any different

1014
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:11,599
than a civic agency. We're just taking

1015
00:43:08,079 --> 00:43:16,079
out that creation of a of of a civic

1016
00:43:11,599 --> 00:43:18,480
agency piece from it. Um, that's kind of

1017
00:43:16,079 --> 00:43:22,640
how I would see it.

1018
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:25,680
» Har and I'll speak in favor. Um I don't

1019
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:27,599
I don't think there's I mean the way

1020
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:29,680
things have gone I I don't know that

1021
00:43:27,599 --> 00:43:32,000
there's a longterm

1022
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:35,119
requirement. I think this is a

1023
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:39,040
short-term issue that needs resolution

1024
00:43:35,119 --> 00:43:45,480
and um I think to to have that

1025
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:45,480
discussion is is meets the needs.

1026
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:50,880
» Okay.

1027
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:54,240
Any other comments?

1028
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:56,720
I will just give Jen a chance to get the

1029
00:43:54,240 --> 00:43:58,240
consensus now. Oh, council.

1030
00:43:56,720 --> 00:44:01,200
» Yeah, just while she's putting that up,

1031
00:43:58,240 --> 00:44:03,119
I I'll speak in favor of this too. I I'm

1032
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:05,599
whatever that looks like, how we call it

1033
00:44:03,119 --> 00:44:07,599
or how we budget for it or what we do,

1034
00:44:05,599 --> 00:44:11,440
I'm I'm in support of the concept for

1035
00:44:07,599 --> 00:44:13,119
sure. Um, but I I guess my question is

1036
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:15,280
like is this something that then is

1037
00:44:13,119 --> 00:44:17,040
coming out of

1038
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:19,520
where like where would we be expecting

1039
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:21,520
to fund this from like through reserve

1040
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:24,160
funding or through future budget or when

1041
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:27,200
to

1042
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:29,040
» Through the chair and just to just make

1043
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:31,200
sure I'm clear on what I'm answering,

1044
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:33,599
but

1045
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:35,280
the the intent of the motion is that the

1046
00:44:33,599 --> 00:44:36,880
Hinton Healthcare Foundation would come

1047
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:39,839
forward with really a budget amendment

1048
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:42,079
for this year. Correct. Or is this when

1049
00:44:39,839 --> 00:44:43,440
we say bring it forward to budget was

1050
00:44:42,079 --> 00:44:47,960
the intent that it would come forward

1051
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:47,960
for the 27 budget with an OBC?

1052
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:54,160
I I guess my thought was it would be for

1053
00:44:52,079 --> 00:44:56,800
the future years which would be the same

1054
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:59,440
as the civic agency. So to me it's more

1055
00:44:56,800 --> 00:45:00,880
for the budget process because my

1056
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,580
assumption is that's where the civic

1057
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,680
agency would have come. If

1058
00:45:02,580 --> 00:45:06,640
[clears throat] there's a separate

1059
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:10,640
request or adjustment or something for

1060
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:13,839
2025 or 2026 then that that to me is a

1061
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:15,280
separate thing. Okay. Because with like

1062
00:45:13,839 --> 00:45:17,680
if the intent was to create a civic

1063
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:21,520
agency like in the very very short term

1064
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:24,800
and fund it within 2026 then that that's

1065
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:27,960
I think a different opportation.

1066
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,960
I'm not

1067
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:36,640
» I I expect that the healthcare

1068
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:38,560
foundation would like to hear [snorts]

1069
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:42,720
that discussion because these costs are

1070
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:47,101
going to come shortly

1071
00:45:42,720 --> 00:45:49,760
and um so um if if there's

1072
00:45:47,101 --> 00:45:53,119
[clears throat] an expectation

1073
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:54,800
that maybe there's some support coming

1074
00:45:53,119 --> 00:45:57,280
just over the

1075
00:45:54,800 --> 00:46:00,880
uh that's one reality

1076
00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:04,240
or it's you know who knows that's

1077
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:07,440
another reality. So I think that's the

1078
00:46:04,240 --> 00:46:10,319
um that's the reality as it as it

1079
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:13,280
relates to this group of of volunteers

1080
00:46:10,319 --> 00:46:15,440
here.

1081
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:17,359
» So I I guess we're looking for for

1082
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:18,960
clarity and if they're looking for

1083
00:46:17,359 --> 00:46:20,880
funding in the very short term then it

1084
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:22,319
almost even makes me more want to not

1085
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:24,880
have the inter agency process. Why don't

1086
00:46:22,319 --> 00:46:27,680
we wait for the budget? That's my that

1087
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:30,480
be my recommendation. I think it's I

1088
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:33,680
think it's readyish

1089
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:37,359
or should be in short in a short period

1090
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:39,520
of time. Um and so maybe if this comes

1091
00:46:37,359 --> 00:46:42,160
back to another future committee, the

1092
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:44,319
whole meeting, then the the the

1093
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:48,040
immediacy question will be better

1094
00:46:44,319 --> 00:46:48,040
answered at that point.

1095
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:52,480
» Good.

1096
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:53,520
» And I have a question. Yeah, that with

1097
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:57,040
that in mind, I wonder if it's better

1098
00:46:53,520 --> 00:47:00,440
just to accept it for information.

1099
00:46:57,040 --> 00:47:00,440
Like I'm not

1100
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:03,920
» I'd like to have come back to the

1101
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:06,880
committee the whole meeting,

1102
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:09,440
» But specific for short-term like I just

1103
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:11,920
wanted the motion like what are we what

1104
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:16,079
do we want the motion to say, hey, bring

1105
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:19,200
bring us your your budget for um for any

1106
00:47:16,079 --> 00:47:20,880
requirements within 2026.

1107
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:22,880
and then through the budget process for

1108
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:24,319
2027. Like I I almost feel like there's

1109
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:26,480
two separate conversations. I don't know

1110
00:47:24,319 --> 00:47:28,720
how to do that in a motion, but it if

1111
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:30,160
there's a need in the short term, I I'm

1112
00:47:28,720 --> 00:47:33,119
sure I could word something, but if

1113
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:34,960
that's what council is thinking is um my

1114
00:47:33,119 --> 00:47:36,480
motion was tied to the 2027 budget.

1115
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:42,240
Let's not do a civic agency. Let's just

1116
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:45,520
see there's no VC and and that and

1117
00:47:42,240 --> 00:47:48,560
what we do for a media be a different

1118
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:52,319
agenda. I I just I I wanted kind of a

1119
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:59,440
question as well maybe to Marge.

1120
00:47:52,319 --> 00:48:01,359
Is there um a timeline that they need to

1121
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:05,040
be able to have the confidence to know

1122
00:48:01,359 --> 00:48:06,960
that this is potentially moving forward?

1123
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:11,040
Like when you say there's five doctors

1124
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:13,520
coming and they're going to need 36,000

1125
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:17,119
times five,

1126
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:20,560
» It'll be over the course of the of the

1127
00:48:17,119 --> 00:48:24,240
year. That's why I said I'm comfortable

1128
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:26,800
um supporting either way accepting this

1129
00:48:24,240 --> 00:48:30,240
as information and waiting for a budget.

1130
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:32,480
Um just I guess from the perspective of

1131
00:48:30,240 --> 00:48:34,319
the health healthc care foundation was

1132
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:37,280
it was important to put it in front of

1133
00:48:34,319 --> 00:48:39,760
council to say this train's coming down

1134
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:41,359
the track and and it's hard to say

1135
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:43,760
exactly

1136
00:48:41,359 --> 00:48:45,839
when doctors are coming because there's

1137
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:49,359
you know there's certification issues

1138
00:48:45,839 --> 00:48:53,599
there's there's in some instances visa

1139
00:48:49,359 --> 00:48:54,960
issues and so um

1140
00:48:53,599 --> 00:48:57,760
I think from the perspective of the

1141
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:59,359
healthcare foundation it is just hey

1142
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:03,040
guys

1143
00:48:59,359 --> 00:49:04,800
this is a this is a a reality and and

1144
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:06,400
you know the organization's concerned

1145
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:08,079
about it

1146
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:09,760
» Chambers

1147
00:49:08,079 --> 00:49:12,480
and I think we're kind of overthinking

1148
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:14,480
because I think I like this motion

1149
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,440
because we really don't know what

1150
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,880
they're going to bring us until they

1151
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,640
bring it to us and it's coming back to

1152
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:20,400
another committee meeting and I don't

1153
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:21,839
disagree that maybe those need to be two

1154
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,599
different decisions but that can be two

1155
00:49:21,839 --> 00:49:25,760
different motions at the time of next

1156
00:49:23,599 --> 00:49:28,319
committee so I think the way that this

1157
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:30,400
is laid out. That's their job to come

1158
00:49:28,319 --> 00:49:32,160
and tell us they want something in 2026,

1159
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:34,720
27,28. What does that look like? Maybe

1160
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:36,640
they're okay to bump it through until

1161
00:49:34,720 --> 00:49:37,760
2027, but they'll have a bigger ask for

1162
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:40,160
that year. I don't know, whatever that

1163
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:42,160
is. But that's their baby to deal with.

1164
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:44,559
We take the budget, we can break it into

1165
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:46,240
10 pieces, I think later, but at least

1166
00:49:44,559 --> 00:49:47,680
this is putting a bit of the

1167
00:49:46,240 --> 00:49:50,400
accountability back with the healthcare

1168
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:52,559
foundation to proof it out to us what

1169
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:53,920
they need when they need it more so than

1170
00:49:52,559 --> 00:49:55,680
what they did in a letter. and then we

1171
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:58,079
can pick it all apart when we have more

1172
00:49:55,680 --> 00:50:00,400
facts. That's kind of how I see it.

1173
00:49:58,079 --> 00:50:03,760
» Okay.

1174
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:06,760
» Maybe any further comments before

1175
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:06,760
this.

1176
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:14,960
» I think what's up there is good. I I

1177
00:50:13,599 --> 00:50:16,640
think what came out of my mouth in

1178
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:20,294
between what you did and what Kristen

1179
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:20,294
said actually quite good. [laughter]

1180
00:50:30,319 --> 00:50:33,920
Okay.

1181
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:36,559
» Uh that committee seek consensus to

1182
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:39,040
advise the Hampton Healthcare Foundation

1183
00:50:36,559 --> 00:50:42,480
to bring a budget request to a future

1184
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:46,200
committee of the whole meeting.

1185
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:46,200
Please vote now.

1186
00:50:58,079 --> 00:51:06,559
Thank you. So, I have a question.

1187
00:51:02,720 --> 00:51:08,880
I don't know who it's for. Probably CEO.

1188
00:51:06,559 --> 00:51:12,400
So because I was in that meeting with

1189
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:16,079
the doctors originally, um

1190
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:17,760
probably one of the most consistently

1191
00:51:16,079 --> 00:51:20,079
I mean whatever despite all the other

1192
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:21,680
things

1193
00:51:20,079 --> 00:51:24,880
palatable things that the doctors really

1194
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:26,800
like was that return service bery and

1195
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:28,480
you know I think we're talking a lot now

1196
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:30,880
getting doctors we've got doctors

1197
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:32,319
they're coming in blah blah blah we

1198
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:34,640
still have to think about how do we

1199
00:51:32,319 --> 00:51:36,400
continue to attract doctors to our

1200
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:38,079
community through long-term

1201
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:42,079
methodologies and I think that that

1202
00:51:38,079 --> 00:51:44,720
return of service bery is it was spoken

1203
00:51:42,079 --> 00:51:47,760
I mean many of our doctors in for that

1204
00:51:44,720 --> 00:51:50,000
are longtime hintonites now had a

1205
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:53,040
variety of some type of incentive that

1206
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:56,079
was was coming in so

1207
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:57,760
I still you know I don't want to say

1208
00:51:56,079 --> 00:51:59,839
that okay now we're going to get five

1209
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:01,359
more doctors or 10 doctors or 15 doctors

1210
00:51:59,839 --> 00:52:02,421
and then our problem's over because I

1211
00:52:01,359 --> 00:52:03,119
think this is just going to continue

1212
00:52:02,421 --> 00:52:06,800
[clears throat]

1213
00:52:03,119 --> 00:52:10,480
onward and so in order to see something

1214
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:12,480
coming forward where we can I think

1215
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,839
there needs to be more conversation what

1216
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:16,240
that really looks like in financial

1217
00:52:13,839 --> 00:52:19,920
impact and how it would look but would

1218
00:52:16,240 --> 00:52:21,520
that be a motion where I would ask that

1219
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:23,280
we bring a discussion on the return of

1220
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:25,680
service ber to a future committee and

1221
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:28,640
football meeting because it's it just

1222
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:32,000
seemed to be a really

1223
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:33,839
a a really well respected idea from the

1224
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:36,000
doctors but something they really wanted

1225
00:52:33,839 --> 00:52:38,559
to see and they felt that it was, you

1226
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:40,480
know, in those those early times of, you

1227
00:52:38,559 --> 00:52:41,839
know, when they're finishing their

1228
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,200
they're kind of getting them when

1229
00:52:41,839 --> 00:52:44,480
they're they're young and they're there

1230
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:46,240
and they're looking at different things.

1231
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:48,400
And I I think we need to continue to

1232
00:52:46,240 --> 00:52:50,079
find ways that hopefully we can find

1233
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:52,000
things we can do in an incremental state

1234
00:52:50,079 --> 00:52:54,319
that doesn't that helps us to continue

1235
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:56,000
to be moving ahead instead of putting

1236
00:52:54,319 --> 00:52:58,079
oursel back into crisis. Well, we have,

1237
00:52:56,000 --> 00:53:00,720
you know, three of our five doctors who

1238
00:52:58,079 --> 00:53:02,880
did. So, I don't know what your thoughts

1239
00:53:00,720 --> 00:53:07,280
are on that.

1240
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:08,640
» Do you want to respond? Sure. Um

1241
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:10,800
yeah, through through the chair, members

1242
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:12,480
of the committee, uh certainly can if we

1243
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:14,400
want to look a little bit closer at the

1244
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:17,680
return of service bery. One of the

1245
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:19,440
reason that it wasn't recommended um was

1246
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:23,920
because there currently is that return

1247
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:26,720
of service bery um and one thing that

1248
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:29,040
will make you ineligible is signing a

1249
00:53:26,720 --> 00:53:30,640
any other return of service bary. So

1250
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:33,040
even a municipal one would make you

1251
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:35,200
ineligible for the provincial program.

1252
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:38,160
And for ours,

1253
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:40,880
um, for Hinton, uh, you can get up to

1254
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:43,520
125,000. So it's a relatively sizable

1255
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:45,839
one. Um,

1256
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:49,200
so for those reasons, there was already

1257
00:53:45,839 --> 00:53:52,079
one out there. Um, I think it's I think

1258
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:55,040
the spots are relatively limited uh, to

1259
00:53:52,079 --> 00:53:58,400
get in, but just having those two

1260
00:53:55,040 --> 00:54:00,079
competing priorities. And, you know, how

1261
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,920
easy would it be to get ours? And would

1262
00:54:00,079 --> 00:54:03,680
we have people apply for ours and not

1263
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:05,359
the other one? just because they saw it

1264
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:06,880
as a little maybe a little bit easier

1265
00:54:05,359 --> 00:54:10,640
and more accessible and we didn't want

1266
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:12,480
to shut the door on that program. Um

1267
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:14,960
that was the one issue that we saw that

1268
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:18,319
there's ways around it. Um but if they

1269
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:19,680
do sign a return service bery uh they

1270
00:54:18,319 --> 00:54:21,359
would become ineligible for the

1271
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:23,839
provincial program

1272
00:54:21,359 --> 00:54:25,680
» And when do we know when like that

1273
00:54:23,839 --> 00:54:27,200
provincial one is ending the funding for

1274
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:29,200
that one? Is that one of the ones?

1275
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:31,920
» Yeah, it is. It end it closed December

1276
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:34,400
31, 2025. whether or not there's a new

1277
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:35,760
one open that closes 2026. It did not

1278
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:40,079
say

1279
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:42,800
» Yeah, I could take a look, but this is

1280
00:54:40,079 --> 00:54:44,640
this is something that has been

1281
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:46,559
longstanding uh that they have these

1282
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:48,160
intakes every year. So, I don't imagine

1283
00:54:46,559 --> 00:54:50,880
that,

1284
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:53,599
you know, I I'll have to look and and

1285
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:57,119
confirm that fact, but I I would imagine

1286
00:54:53,599 --> 00:55:01,880
that this is something that

1287
00:54:57,119 --> 00:55:01,880
is likely to continue. Um,

1288
00:55:04,079 --> 00:55:07,040
but I could look it up quickly even

1289
00:55:05,599 --> 00:55:10,319
while we're talking and see if I could

1290
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:12,079
find anything.

1291
00:55:10,319 --> 00:55:13,839
» I think my question is answered. Oh,

1292
00:55:12,079 --> 00:55:15,760
thank you.

1293
00:55:13,839 --> 00:55:18,240
Uh I was going to make the same point as

1294
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:22,400
CEO and ask and it is my understanding

1295
00:55:18,240 --> 00:55:24,079
that um student doctors are operating

1296
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:27,920
currently under the expectation that

1297
00:55:24,079 --> 00:55:29,920
it's back in place that those and and

1298
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:32,880
for anybody who's listening who doesn't

1299
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:34,800
really understand that's a student

1300
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:36,880
actually gets that money while they're

1301
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:39,760
in school and they can actually use the

1302
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:43,520
money and then what they do is they sign

1303
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:46,400
for some period of time to return to

1304
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:49,599
community. The provincial program is you

1305
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:51,440
need to agree to go to a rural location

1306
00:55:49,599 --> 00:55:53,440
without that being defined. One of the

1307
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:55,760
big challenges has been that a lot of

1308
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:58,880
people end up in Strath going and

1309
00:55:55,760 --> 00:56:00,960
working in St.

1310
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:04,160
» And so it's non-defined. That's the

1311
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:06,480
that's the challenge as it relates to to

1312
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:09,760
that program particularly because there

1313
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:12,000
is no there's no guards on where they

1314
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:15,160
end up. just it cannot be head within

1315
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:15,160
their gallery.

1316
00:56:15,599 --> 00:56:21,839
» Uh through the chair, I believe the

1317
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:23,520
we're just looking it up here, but uh

1318
00:56:21,839 --> 00:56:27,040
you do have to be an eligible community

1319
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:30,000
and they they'll classify you as rural

1320
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:32,960
rural or rural and remote. I believe we

1321
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:36,720
are considered uh rural which gives you

1322
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:38,880
the 125. So the lower amount of the the

1323
00:56:36,720 --> 00:56:41,520
higher one, but eligible communities

1324
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:44,079
have a population of less than 15,000

1325
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:46,240
located at least 50 kilometers from a

1326
00:56:44,079 --> 00:56:49,599
major urban center,

1327
00:56:46,240 --> 00:56:51,599
which I imagine a major urban center is

1328
00:56:49,599 --> 00:56:54,599
likely in the Calgary and possibly the

1329
00:56:51,599 --> 00:56:54,599
corridor

1330
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:59,000
» Switch.

1331
00:57:00,559 --> 00:57:09,280
So um moving along um I think we are on

1332
00:57:06,079 --> 00:57:11,839
the reporting

1333
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:14,000
5.1 council reports boards and

1334
00:57:11,839 --> 00:57:15,760
committees of councelor

1335
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:18,640
counselor.

1336
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:20,799
» Yes thank you. I have not uh attended a

1337
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:23,359
committee meeting but I did attend a

1338
00:57:20,799 --> 00:57:27,440
volunteer fair that already coaching

1339
00:57:23,359 --> 00:57:29,119
hosted. Had lots of uh booth there had

1340
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:32,720
an opportunity to talk to some people

1341
00:57:29,119 --> 00:57:34,319
who were at the booth and lots of people

1342
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:36,240
walking around which was really good to

1343
00:57:34,319 --> 00:57:38,160
see. I attended one a couple years ago

1344
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:40,319
and it was really well attended as well

1345
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:42,319
and it's just so nice people were

1346
00:57:40,319 --> 00:57:43,760
actually looking to volunteer their

1347
00:57:42,319 --> 00:57:46,079
time.

1348
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:49,280
» Yes. Thank you.

1349
00:57:46,079 --> 00:57:52,400
I'm happy to report.

1350
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:57,680
» Yeah. Last uh week at Community Futures

1351
00:57:52,400 --> 00:58:00,960
in um Wildwood. Um a lot of time spent

1352
00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:03,440
um community pictures west Yellowhead.

1353
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:05,359
Uh did a pretty major pilot project on

1354
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:08,640
kind of emergency

1355
00:58:05,359 --> 00:58:11,280
planning and preparedness and uh how how

1356
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:13,520
community futures office can operate uh

1357
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:15,680
under those conditions. Um it's

1358
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:18,960
something that is u basically complete

1359
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:22,799
now and uh is is now accessible to the

1360
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:25,440
entire network and uh already um an

1361
00:58:22,799 --> 00:58:27,839
example from very recent is the Beast

1362
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:29,599
River um office reached out and said hey

1363
00:58:27,839 --> 00:58:30,960
can we have your toolkit because we

1364
00:58:29,599 --> 00:58:35,200
might have this flooding it's going to

1365
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:38,240
displace people and businesses and so

1366
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:40,319
major major congrats to the community

1367
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:41,920
features west team for for developing

1368
00:58:40,319 --> 00:58:44,000
that and and having it be something that

1369
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:45,920
can be shared for a lot of communities.

1370
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:48,079
So, a lot that you don't think about um

1371
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:50,559
within the business community um when

1372
00:58:48,079 --> 00:58:52,559
there are dis displacements that happen

1373
00:58:50,559 --> 00:58:55,440
and emergencies that happen. So, uh

1374
00:58:52,559 --> 00:58:57,839
super super interesting. Uh and then um

1375
00:58:55,440 --> 00:59:01,119
a lot of stuff around uh around

1376
00:58:57,839 --> 00:59:03,920
policies. Uh and then uh later that day

1377
00:59:01,119 --> 00:59:07,760
had uh Alberta municipalities finance

1378
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:09,839
and economy committee meeting um a lot

1379
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:12,960
more on on the viability of of

1380
00:59:09,839 --> 00:59:15,680
communities. a lot of talk about the uh

1381
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:18,160
fairness and equitability between uh

1382
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:19,839
municipal districts and municipalities

1383
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:21,599
uh and and there's a lot around kind of

1384
00:59:19,839 --> 00:59:24,400
budget signals and and a lot of things

1385
00:59:21,599 --> 00:59:26,240
happening. So um yeah, it's it's been a

1386
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:29,040
great committee to be on so far and uh

1387
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:31,680
we have an inerson.

1388
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:34,079
» Thank you.

1389
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:37,359
» Uh so not a board meeting but I did

1390
00:59:34,079 --> 00:59:42,400
attend Evergreen Foundation's uh service

1391
00:59:37,359 --> 00:59:44,240
awards night on Friday. Uh well done. Um

1392
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:46,720
and you know those are people that take

1393
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:51,040
care of vulner vulnerable and senior

1394
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:53,839
people who sort of like things to be the

1395
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:56,960
same way and and long-term employees are

1396
00:59:53,839 --> 00:59:58,960
important and recognizing them was part

1397
00:59:56,960 --> 01:00:01,520
of that and it was great night well

1398
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:03,599
attended. Uh so hats off to the

1399
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:06,079
organization. The food was fantastic at

1400
01:00:03,599 --> 01:00:09,599
the golf course. Uh, and then I would

1401
01:00:06,079 --> 01:00:11,200
like to do a hats off congrats to Wild

1402
01:00:09,599 --> 01:00:12,960
Mountain for the Battle of the Bands

1403
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:16,240
event that they had on Saturday night.

1404
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:17,680
Um, it's a great community night. Um, I

1405
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:20,319
don't know exactly how many people were

1406
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:20,880
there, but you know, north just over

1407
01:00:20,319 --> 01:00:23,920
250.

1408
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:28,559
» I was going to say north 250. Uh the the

1409
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:32,160
talent was fantastic, but um we had old

1410
01:00:28,559 --> 01:00:34,636
young cowboys, rockers, and then the

1411
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:35,599
bands sort of kept up with that.

1412
01:00:34,636 --> 01:00:39,119
[clears throat]

1413
01:00:35,599 --> 01:00:41,520
We had some well Jade Madson showed up.

1414
01:00:39,119 --> 01:00:44,319
They all had their ties on and three of

1415
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:46,960
them and they had this new band. So I

1416
01:00:44,319 --> 01:00:49,119
was thinking maybe jazz, but no, it was

1417
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:51,680
death metal. So it was [laughter]

1418
01:00:49,119 --> 01:00:54,640
it was fantastic. But a really good

1419
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:57,280
night of music and it was just fantastic

1420
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:58,960
to see the um the community come out the

1421
01:00:57,280 --> 01:01:01,960
way it did with my hats off to Wild

1422
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:01,960
Mountain.

1423
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:10,240
» Okay. Uh I as well attended the

1424
01:01:07,359 --> 01:01:14,400
volunteer fair and uh it was great to

1425
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:16,559
see the turnout and the uh amount of

1426
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:18,480
boots that were cables. I went around

1427
01:01:16,559 --> 01:01:21,440
and spoke to each individual on the

1428
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:24,640
table and it was very informative. I

1429
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:27,280
want to talk. Thank councelor D for the

1430
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:31,040
opening greetings on behalf of mayor and

1431
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:35,760
council. Uh also volunteer appreciation

1432
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:38,960
night at the venue on Saturday night for

1433
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:40,799
option bridges and help. Uh very well

1434
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:43,680
put together. The entertainment was

1435
01:01:40,799 --> 01:01:46,687
great. And also on the final thing is

1436
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:49,280
the uh council communication

1437
01:01:46,687 --> 01:01:52,079
[clears throat] workshop yesterday. Uh

1438
01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:56,079
very very well uh put together. The

1439
01:01:52,079 --> 01:01:57,822
presenter was just awesome and uh great

1440
01:01:56,079 --> 01:01:58,400
learning experience for me.

1441
01:01:57,822 --> 01:02:01,200
[clears throat]

1442
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:04,200
want to thank whoever Mr. Chair put that

1443
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:04,200
together.

1444
01:02:05,119 --> 01:02:11,760
» I did not attend any committee meetings

1445
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:13,119
but I will echo what you said and

1446
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:14,799
council mine. I thought the

1447
01:02:13,119 --> 01:02:19,359
communications

1448
01:02:14,799 --> 01:02:21,599
um education piece was fantastic. Um and

1449
01:02:19,359 --> 01:02:24,319
I did have an opportunity to pop into

1450
01:02:21,599 --> 01:02:27,119
the roots health summit this weekend

1451
01:02:24,319 --> 01:02:30,480
which I thought was very well organized.

1452
01:02:27,119 --> 01:02:33,680
It was nice to see a lot of people out

1453
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:37,520
and it was nice to see FCSS on the main

1454
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:42,160
stage talking about their um mental

1455
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:44,319
health first aid kit. Um and that's

1456
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:49,720
going to be coming up on May 2nd. So

1457
01:02:44,319 --> 01:02:49,720
that's everything for um

1458
01:02:50,319 --> 01:02:53,599
» Thank you chair. I don't have anything

1459
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:55,680
to report, but I do have the council

1460
01:02:53,599 --> 01:02:57,119
action pending list that we we spoke

1461
01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:58,960
about earlier in the meeting, but a

1462
01:02:57,119 --> 01:03:02,079
little bit um more wholesome with the

1463
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:04,079
completed items as well.

1464
01:03:02,079 --> 01:03:07,680
» Councelor Nelson,

1465
01:03:04,079 --> 01:03:11,440
» Um the junior hoppy one shows us

1466
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:13,200
completed. Um but nothing's come um back

1467
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:15,760
to council

1468
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:18,640
like just curious what the next steps

1469
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:22,720
are with it.

1470
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:25,359
» Uh thank you through the chair. So we

1471
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:27,520
we've decided uh not to move forward

1472
01:03:25,359 --> 01:03:30,640
with the RSC process, but it essentially

1473
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:33,599
is the uh the RFP. So we'll ensure that

1474
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:35,839
that's um uh sent out to everybody so

1475
01:03:33,599 --> 01:03:38,480
you're aware, but that has been posted.

1476
01:03:35,839 --> 01:03:41,119
Um you know, we have the structure of an

1477
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:43,440
RFP just but we are continuing to

1478
01:03:41,119 --> 01:03:45,680
solicit proposals. We'll uh we'll send

1479
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:47,359
that link out. That is that is out

1480
01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:50,480
there. We have it posted on our website.

1481
01:03:47,359 --> 01:03:52,720
We've also sent that to uh a number of

1482
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:54,799
different leagues around the province to

1483
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:57,680
solicit these proposals and we'll make

1484
01:03:54,799 --> 01:04:00,240
sure that uh I send that send those to

1485
01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:02,960
you maybe by email.

1486
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:04,720
And then what um what is kind of that

1487
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:09,839
the closing date on it and then what are

1488
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:13,920
the the next steps that is it RFP that

1489
01:04:09,839 --> 01:04:16,559
council is is a part of determining if

1490
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:20,799
and who or is it something that is uh

1491
01:04:16,559 --> 01:04:23,440
completely administratively determined.

1492
01:04:20,799 --> 01:04:25,599
» Uh thank you to the chair. So the

1493
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:28,799
selection of who will be done

1494
01:04:25,599 --> 01:04:30,480
administratively um certainly on this

1495
01:04:28,799 --> 01:04:33,760
case this one's a little bit of a unique

1496
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:36,559
one but council will be aware um as we

1497
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:39,520
move through the process as well. So,

1498
01:04:36,559 --> 01:04:41,359
um, but as we're evaluating proposals,

1499
01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:43,359
there's likely to be something in the

1500
01:04:41,359 --> 01:04:46,640
proposal that probably would necessitate

1501
01:04:43,359 --> 01:04:48,559
counsel. Uh, depending on how,

1502
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:51,440
you know, there's a good chance that

1503
01:04:48,559 --> 01:04:54,640
there's going to be, you know, some

1504
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:57,680
requests that would be outside of what

1505
01:04:54,640 --> 01:05:01,440
we offer. Um, so all of those types of

1506
01:04:57,680 --> 01:05:04,319
things would be uh dictated through

1507
01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:07,280
u dictated through council. Um we do

1508
01:05:04,319 --> 01:05:10,000
have as a part of our proposals um the

1509
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:12,079
input that council has provided already

1510
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:14,640
um mainly surrounding more of the

1511
01:05:12,079 --> 01:05:17,039
community end of things.

1512
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:19,359
» Perfect. Thank you.

1513
01:05:17,039 --> 01:05:23,359
» Um committee any further questions

1514
01:05:19,359 --> 01:05:25,280
concerning the council action list or

1515
01:05:23,359 --> 01:05:28,280
council

1516
01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:28,280
list.

1517
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:35,000
I'll just make a motion to close session

1518
01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:35,000
at 5:05 p.m.

1519
01:05:40,079 --> 01:05:44,359
5:05 p.m. Please