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Good evening and welcome to the regular meeting of the Half Moon Bay City Council for September 1st, 2026. If you, as a reminder, if you are joining this meeting via Zoom, you can still make public comment. During any public comment portions attendees may use the raise your hand feature and will be called upon and unmuted when it is your turn to speak. If joining by phone, you start nine to raise your hand, start six to mute and unmute. We also have Spanish interpretation services available.

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in person, and via Zoom, on-point language solutions is in the back left corner of the room if anyone needs assistance with interpretation services, and on-point will now provide information on how to receive those services.

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So it looks like it's Nicholas here tonight.

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Good

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evening, Madame Mayor on our City Council members, Mr. Chirister, Ms. Basano,

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Ms. Rodriguez and all City staff and members of the public.

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Members of the public, I hope to provide you with a live interpretation of all

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Thank you.

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Gracias, Nicholas.

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Could I have a roll call, please?

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Councilmember Brownstone.

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Here.

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Councilmember Johnson.

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Here.

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Councilmember Nagan-Gasd?

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Here.

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Mayor Radek.

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Here.

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We have a quorum.

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Thank you.

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All rise for Pledge of Allegiance.

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I would just mention that Vice Mayor Penrose is traveling and will not be joining us this evening.

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Could I have, the next item is approval of the agenda, so if I would entertain a motion to approve that agenda in a second.

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So we're moving on to proclamations and presentations and we have two this evening.

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The first is to honor suicide prevention month.

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Tonight we recognize September as suicide prevention month and 2025 65 people died

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by Suicide in San Mateo County.

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There were 9,212 calls, 1,073 chats, and 1,735 text messages received by 988 Suicide and Crisis Lifeline.

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We urge our local Half Moon Bay community to play a role in supporting each other and

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preventing suicide by knowing the signs of suicide, finding the words of support, and

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reaching out to local resources, including 988 Suicide and Crisis Lifeline.

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We now welcome San Mateo County Suicide Prevention Committee member Verna Barrientos,

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who is also a member of our greater co-sides to say a few words.

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Welcome.

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Good evening, Mayor Reddick, Council Members, City Council, okay, thank you.

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I don't know if I'm going to pick up on me or I need to do something.

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I don't do this very often as you can tell.

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Okay, so let me start over.

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Good evening, Mayor Reddick, council members, city staff,

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and members of the Half Moon Bay community, community, excuse me.

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My name is Verna Barriantos, and I use she-her pronouns.

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I am a licensed clinical social worker, and I'm here on behalf of the San Mateo County Suicide Prevention Committee.

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The Suicide Prevention Committee is a county-wide coalition that provides oversight and

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direction for suicide prevention across San Mateo County.

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These meetings are open to the public and meet on the first Tuesday of the month via Zoom.

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For more information, you can Google San Mateo County Suicide Prevention Committee.

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Thank you to the City of Half Moon Bay for recognizing September 2026 as Suicide Prevention Month.

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Your proclamation affirms that suicide can be prevented and that each of us has a role

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in supporting the well-being of our neighbors, friends, family members, colleagues, and community.

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This recognition is especially meaningful because suicide affects families, workplaces, schools, and our entire community.

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In 2025, 65 people died by suicide in San Mateo County.

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Research has shown that for every death by suicide, 135 people are affected to some degree.

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135 people. That is a lot of grief in the world. Thankfully, there is support out there to hopefully

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decrease the number of suicides in our county and beyond. For example, also in 2025, our local

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988 suicide and crisis lifeline received more than 12,000 calls, chats and text messages from people

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24, 7, 365 days a year.

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And it heads up, 988 is not just for those in crisis.

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Folks can also call 988 to get emotional support as well.

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To learn more about this valuable resource,

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go to 988-lifeline.org.

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This year, the Suicide Prevention Committee

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has chosen the theme, the wait we carry.

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It recognizes that many people, particularly

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Early men and boys as well as BIPOC and LGBTQ plus communities may carry visible and invisible

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burdens.

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Emotional pain, stress, grief, isolation, mental health challenges, and pressure to meet

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expectations without asking for help.

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The theme calls on us to reduce stigma, strengthen connection in belonging, and make sure that no

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one feels they must carry these burdens alone. Learning signs of suicide, checking in with

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each other with an open mind and open heart and connecting someone to support can make

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a huge difference.

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Suicide prevention is near and dear to my heart. In October 2023 my

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steps in Joshua Marshall and completed suicide.

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Not a day that was by it and I don't think about

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them or what his life could have been like. And I just miss him every day.

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As a

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suicide law survivor, I feel it is important to talk about suicide prevention so

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that hopefully others do not go through the pain and anguish that myself and

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my family have been through.

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I invite everyone in half of May to find their role

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in suicide prevention. You do not need to be a mental health professional to make

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difference. You can start with these three actions. First, reach out and share the

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weight.

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Check in with someone you care about, especially if they seem withdrawn,

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overwhelmed, grieving or isolated. Listen with compassion and remind them that they

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don't have to carry everything alone. Second, know the signs and where to turn.

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If you or someone you know is struggling or thinking about suicide, call text or chat

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988 to reach the suicide and crisis lifeline, third, build knowledge and connection.

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Please, everyone in this room, please tell others about 988.

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This can save a life.

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You can also take part in suicide prevention months free, virtual, and in-person events.

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learn more at smchealth.org-suicide-provention-month.

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One event to highlight in particular is a county-hosted mental health forum for first responders, veterans, and their support.

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The event will be on Thursday, September 10th, from 9 a.m. to 12 p.m., and it's at Central Peninsula Church in Foster City.

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Please invite a first responder veteran or one of their supporters to attend.

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Thank you again to Half Moon Bay and the City Council for this proclamation, and for standing with the San Mateo County Community in preventing suicide, promoting connection, and reminding everyone that help is available.

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Together, we can help ensure that no one carries the way alone.

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Next, we're going to recognize somebody very special, Samuel Raymos Palomino.

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On Tuesday, August 18th, after our last city council meeting, the San Mateo County Sheriff's Office Deputies responded to assist CHV with a large bull running loose on Highway 35. Late into the night, our local hero, Samuel Ramos Palomino, was called into action to help. His actions prevented harm to the animal and our community. I'd like to welcome our Sheriff Captain. I'm an Allen to say a few more

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More words?

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Thank you, Madam Mayor.

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Good evening, Madam Mayor, council members, city staff.

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Excuse me, just a brief synopsis of this event, just two weeks ago, August 18,

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2026, California Highway Patrol requested assistance from the sheriff's office deputies with a bull that had been running loose along Highway 35.

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The animal presented a significant danger to motorists, nearby residents and responding personnel.

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After approximately two hours of unsuccessful attempts to safely corral the bull,

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deputies sought assistance from someone with a specialized experience and equipment necessary to bring the incident to a safety conclusion.

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At approximately 12 a.m., deputies contacted half of a community member, Samuel Ramos,

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Palemino, a four-minute seahorse ranch with 35 years of experience working with horses and large animals.

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Just by being asleep at home and scheduled a report to work at 4 a.m.,

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Samuel immediately responded.

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He prepared his truck and livestock trailer and followed deputies to the boat, which had traveled approximately a mile from its original location across multiple residential properties and displayed aggressive behavior towards the responding deputies.

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Over the next several miles, Sambo worked alongside deputies and CHP officers through repeated attempts to lasso and control the animal.

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The difficulty in danger of the task were underscored when the boat repeatedly snapped Sambo's lasso.

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Nevertheless, Samuel remained composed and persistent, relying on decades of experience, handling large animals, to help guide responding personnel towards a safe resolution.

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Sambole, sheriff's deputies, and CHP officers ultimately succeeded in lassoing the bull and securing it to a tree.

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Sambole then took the lead and safely loading the animals into his livestock trailer.

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When it became apparent, the owner did not have sufficiently secure location and prevent the bull from escaping again.

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Again, Samuel wouldn't even further.

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He left his own truck and trailer with the bull safely contained inside at the property until arrangements could be made to relocate the animal to a secure location.

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Deputy's transported Samuel home at approximately 230, leaving him a little more than an hour before he was scheduled to report to work.

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As my understanding, he went to work that day.

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Little sleepy, little bleary eyed, but he went to work.

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Samuel's actions that night were consistent with a long-standing commitment to the safety of the Coastside community.

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During his 35 years at Seahorse Ranch, Samuel has repeatedly intervened in dangerous situations involving loose dogs, chasing horses on local beaches, helping prevent injuries to riders, members of the public and animals.

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Willa Chapman, a long time community partner in the owner operator Seahorse Ranch has described him as someone whose experience and judgment have repeatedly helped divert injuries and told us that in an emergency, there's simply no one better than Samuel.

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Samuel's actions that night went far beyond what could be reasonably expected of a community member.

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He answered a request for assistance in the middle of the night, providing his specialized expertise in personal equipment.

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Willingly entered a dangerous and unpredictable situation and remained committed until the threat to the community was resolved.

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A loose bowl of the size traveling on Highway 35 presented the potential for a catastrophic traffic collision and posed a significant danger to residents and first responders alike.

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Like Samuel Ramos, Paliminos, Courage, Selflessness, Expertise, and

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extraordinary commitment to his community where instrumental in bringing a dangerous incident to a safe conclusion.

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His actions exemplify the partnership between San Mateo County Sheriff's Office and the communities we serve.

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For these actions, I'm extremely proud to announce that Samuel has been nominated for and will be recognized with one of the highest civilian honors the Sheriff's Office has.

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our community member service award and you'll be presented that later this year.

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Thank you.

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Sorry Mayor, just briefly, you might have a moment to just recognize the deputies as well that were there that night.

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All right.

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So as you can see, the team that worked two weeks ago is on tonight and some of these deputies were up there,

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alongside Samuel, Ropin and Rafflin and doing what they were doing.

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I think it's just a testament to the character of these folks.

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There's one of the most dangerous things that any of us deals with is hubris.

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And sometimes not maybe not quite as dangerous as a $2,000 bull, but it can be dangerous for sure.

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And for these folks to know what they didn't know, and to go knocking on the door and

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finding an expert, just to real a testament to their service.

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And this isn't something that's been widely publicized, but

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But two weeks ago, they actually had authority from or authorization from the bull's owner

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to dispatch the animal if need be.

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And being good stewards of the community for them to exhaust all other options.

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And fortunately, knock on Sam Wells door that night just shows the character in the decision

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making.

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So extremely proud of these folks and extremely proud that they were able to part number

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Sanwell and Superman was able to come out of the phone booth that night and it worked out great. So thank you very much

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Not a mayor at a future council meeting. I'm gonna bring forward an item so we can purchase a big light

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That shines like a bullhead in the sky when we need to call on Samuel in the future. So that's not good

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We might need you again

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Yeah, I have one speaker slip here. Why can't him in us?

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Thank you. Good evening.

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years. Actually, our hometowns in Mexico, we are neighbors. I've known his family, you

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know, he's a, they all, you know, volcanoes in Mexico. And that's how I know about them.

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I worked with some world many years ago and always, you know, willing to help. He's been

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part of the Vajera de Celebration for 2 July parade. And one thing actually, you didn't

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mention, he was wearing sandals when he got the boom. So he could do it in sandals, you

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And that's, you know, testing two Samuelis from the Vaquero, you know, this group we have

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a gift for Samuel, a recognition, you know, for his skills of Vaquero.

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We got him a rope.

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We got a my last song, this last song is almost 40 years long, you need to be really skilled

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to be able to use this and he can actually put anything over 3,000 pounds.

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So the boom, we're not able to break this and I know Samuel deserves to have another recognition

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of a new last song because he ropes with us, you know, when we do rope and he comes in our

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Europe's with us. So, Felicidades Amuel, very orgulloso de ti, por tu labor, y en un reconocimiento

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bien merecido y felicidades. Thank you.

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So, is there anyone else in the audience who

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would like to comment on Samuel, or anybody online who would like to congratulate him on

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this amazing miracle?

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Greetings, everyone.

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Just to paint the fullest picture, when the

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The deputies knocked on Samuel's door.

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He was fast asleep, of course, and thought he was being asked to provide a stock trailer

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for deputies in need.

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So he did not get out of his jammies or his house shoes.

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We're not going to call them slippers.

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They were house shoes and off he went.

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So it's not enough to understand he roped a bull out of the, out of the bed of a sheriff's

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deputy.

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Tied the bull to the truck, but he did it in his pajamas and his house shoes and thought

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it was funny.

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He told me at 5.15, 5.30 that morning what had gone on as the bile was rising in my mouth.

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He was laughing.

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He thought it was an excellent way to break the tedium of just another evening at home.

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So what I've come to know about Samuel, who I've worked with for 35 years, is that he helps

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when it helps is needed, he never thinks it's a big deal.

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And I really do mean that there's nothing, no one, you want by your side in an emergency more than this man.

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So, Kudos to him and thank you for honoring him.

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A very high recommendation, thank you.

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James Benjamin.

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Thank you on this item and on the previous speaker.

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We have spent many years, you and I and other members of the City Council and

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planning commission, hearing proclamations, the two proclamations that were addressed tonight.

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Incredibly heartfelt and kind, represent the beating best heart of this community.

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And if every proclamation we gave could have that kind of inspiration, we would be an unstoppable city.

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Would that we get there soon?

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Thank you.

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Thank you, Jimmy.

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Anyone who would like to discuss this item or the previous one on Suicide Prevention Month,

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you can come forward now.

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Or if you're online, you can raise your hand and you'll be unmuted.

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Seeing none, I think we will move on.

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Thanks, everyone.

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Thank you, Samuel.

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All right.

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Item four is Mayor's Announcements of Community Activities and Community Service.

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Nothing to report tonight.

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Item 5 is report out from recent closed session meetings unless the city attorney whether she thank you Madame Mayor this evening

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The council met in closed session on four items. There is no reportable action from those items. Thank you. Thank you very much

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So item 6 is commission and committee updates the first one is parks and recreation commission report out

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Good

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evening Madame Mayor council and community Karen Decker in term deputy city manager I

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I can't believe I have to follow some while, do my best.

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Since our last meeting, Council appointed two new youth commissioners to Parks and Rec,

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and both were in attendance at our last meeting on Wednesday, Commissioner Meyer and Commissioner

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Del Negro.

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They were warmly welcomed by the existing commissioners, and we're so excited to have

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their perspective.

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We did talk about an update to a Carter Park donor policy, and you'll actually hear about

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that item. It's the last item on your agenda tonight. There was also an update provided by

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public works on bike speed limits on the coastal trail and some great feedback was provided by the

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commission and you'll also hear more about that item. Probably the second meeting in September.

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We also chatted about movies in the park which is an exciting pilot that we're releasing.

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This is going, the first movie is going to be taking place on September 26th.

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It's going to be back to the future, so bring your hoverboards and your Pepsi-free.

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We're in close collaboration with Beach Break Entertainment.

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There's going to be a second movie as well on October 3rd, and that will be Princess Bride.

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Movies will start around dusk, or telling people 730, and starting to heavily promote these exciting events.

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It was also really great because the commission narrowed down the choices to five movies and

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we put out a brief community survey and we got wonderful participation.

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I want to say about 400 entries, and that's how we ultimately landed on these two movies.

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That concludes my updates.

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Thank you.

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Good show, thank you.

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The next one is the Planning Commission report out.

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Thank you, Mayor Reddick and council members. The last planning commission meeting was August 25th. And at that meeting, the planning commission approved a new 4471 square foot house and attached accessory dwelling unit. This was at 2781 Pullman Avenue and you've probably seen the story polls and netting there.

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as you drive by Cabrillo.

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They also made a general plan consistent to the determination for property acquisition

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west of Railroad and of course there's no address for that property if anyone is interested

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the APN number 056126040.

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They also received a lengthy directors report from me and I'm not going to repeat all of

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but I do want to repeat the part about the implementation plan update.

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The road shows are starting, there's eight locations throughout the city, and the first one is this Thursday at Wave Avenue and Pillar Seedos.

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You're welcome to attend, of course.

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We had our first working group meeting last Friday, so that's two commissioners and two Coastal Commission staff members.

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and our staff of course, and then the Joint Planning Commission and City Council study session will be September 22nd, so looking forward to that.

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Thank you.

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Thank you very much. Is there anyone in the room who would like to address either of those reports, one on Parks and Recreation Commission and one on the Planning Commission meeting?

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If so, you can come to the Dias now or to the podium and if you'd like to discuss it online

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you can raise your hand now and you'll be unmuted.

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Seeing none, we will move on to the City Manager updates to council.

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Thank you Madam Mayor. We have a couple of updates for you tonight. I'll start and then I'll be turning the time over to our city clerk

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to finish the first one and then she'll do the second one as well. The first thing we wanted to share is

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much like we've done in the past, as we start to move towards the November election,

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we have two measures within the city.

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Of course, there's also a school district measure, but two measures within the city that voters will be considering.

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Measure I, which relates to the map under Measure D for the downtown area.

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And Measure Q, which is the referendum measure related to 555 Kelly.

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We've created web pages for each of these that can be accessed on our website, and the

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purpose is to provide an easy place for people to find the facts about these measures,

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find more information, details, and we'll also be including public comments that have been

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received in relation to these items.

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I'm going to turn the time over to Maggie who will talk more about each of those web pages

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and how people can access them.

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Thank you, Matthew.

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So first we'll start with measure i up on the board.

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You will see a QR code that will take you directly to the web page.

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You can also use the tiny URL listed on there, which is tinyurl.com slash

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hmb26i.

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And this will direct you.

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Here's the screen shot from our page right now.

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In the future, the page will be a little more fancy.

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It's too small to see.

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I'm sorry.

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We're really going after that tiny URL with the screen shot here.

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But you'll find just factual information about the project listed here and then the same

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for Measure Q. Again, another URL that will take you directly to the page which is tiny

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URL slash HMB26Q and a screenshot as well here lays out the background, some summaries,

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the actual ballot question is listed and then at the very bottom of the page you will find

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section for public comments that have been submitted. So these web pages are live right now.

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We expect them to be a little more pretty in the days to come, but right now all the

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necessary information can be found there.

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And that's all we have for that item. I don't

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know if you want to take public comment on this one now, Mayor, or if you want to do both and

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then do public comment. But we have a few speaker slips here, so why don't we just do that?

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Okay. So the first speaker would be Evelyn D'Souza on 7A.

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I'm here tonight to speak about

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Measure Q. I do so because I care deeply about our community and about the trust residents place

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in our local government. And in an era where misinformation abounds, be it on social platforms,

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and other, I think it's an imperative that we have factual reporting. So I am very grateful for

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measure queue pages. But I'm also very concerned about what has happened in connection with

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the 555 Kelly ballot measure. A current council member and a former mayor signed the yes

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on 555 Kelly ballot argument while acting as a private citizen. He has every right for his

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position to advocate for that, and I fully respect that right. But when those materials contain

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statements that are misleading and factually incorrect as tested against the city's own agreements,

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public records, and adopted policies. It's very troubling for residents and residents are watching

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and asking questions. I want to be clear this is not about political viewpoint or whether someone is

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four or against 555 Kelly. I do not want my comments today to be characterised as taking

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a position on the ballot measure. This is about something much more fundamental, truthfulness

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and integrity in our government processes. So my request today goes beyond measure Q. While

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I believe Measure Q has an important role to play,

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and sorry, specifically the website,

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that Maggie has created in Matthew

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which gives residents access to clear, factual,

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city-produced information so that they

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can truly evaluate the issue and make informed decisions.

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But I'm asking the council and city staff

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to go one step further.

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Specifically, I ask that the council invite Miss Bizzano

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to provide ethics, factual reporting training for our council members with a

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particular focus on the responsibilities that come with public office and the

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importance of maintaining public trust. That's particularly timely as we will now

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have at least one new council member. We can disagree, we can advocate, we can

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campaign that is democracy, but the facts should not depend on which side of an issue we are on.

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In times like the present, we need to uphold the highest standards of ethics,

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accuracy and factual reporting in the work that represents our local government.

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So please make true fullness, accuracy and integrity non-negotiable.

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So thank you, Evelyn.

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The next speaker on the same item is Nancy Fontana,

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followed by Sandy Vella.

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Council and staff and members of the public, I'm not as prepared as Evelyn here.

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I thought, didn't know that the website had already been created.

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I just found out about this at the meeting here.

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So I'm not sure that I'm on point on this.

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But I believe the project was approved mid 2024.

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In 2025, during meetings I indicated I thought that the public should be provided regular updates on the cost per minute, not regular but periodic updates on the cost per unit because a lot was happening in our country at that time.

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And I believe the 1.3 I hear most often right now is old.

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And I think it's very important that this website, if it's going to give FAQs, provide updated figures on that.

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Another thing that I would like to see is a simple statement identifying the maximum number of adult residents that could be housed in the Kelly project.

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I believe the ratio is a two-bedroom con house five, a one-bedroom con house three, and a studio two.

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I'm not even sure on those rules, but I think that might be right.

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And if so, providing a simple total, because it will give people a sense of the potential

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number of cars that could be there.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, Nancy.

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Sandy Bella?

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Good evening.

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First of all, I want to thank you guys so much.

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That's great.

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And thanks for painting the bridge, by the way.

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That thrills me every day.

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But for measure Q, thank you very much for putting up the webpage.

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This is great.

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It's so important that voters have accurate, timely, factual, and non-biased information.

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I mean, that's key.

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So I just want to point out, like some of my previous speakers, that the information or

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For some of the information in the measure Q argument in favor statement was in fact inaccurate.

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555 Kelly if built and when it's built or when it's built will present a cost to taxpayers.

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That's without a doubt in several ways including county taxes to fund the project.

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In addition, if the lease goes through, as approved, the City Half Oom Bay will forego the market value rent,

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which is at a significant cost to the city and its taxpayers.

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And we're talking about a city or a city which is now operating in a deficit already.

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Will that deficit continue in perpetuity?

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I don't know, I mean it's hard to tell what's going to happen in 99 years.

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There will be a cost for increased services such as police, emergency, fire, et cetera that

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the city would have to bear.

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Anyway, in summary, thank you again for putting up that information.

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I can't wait to look at it.

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And thanks for all your efforts around this.

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Thank you, Sam.

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And is there anyone else in the room that would like to discuss the measures I and Q city

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information web page?

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Is there anybody online who would like to comment on these two items actually starting

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with seven A measures I and Q city information web page?

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If you're online you can raise your hand.

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Seeing none.

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I'm going to bring it back to the council for clarifying questions or comments about that

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a particular report on 7a.

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Councilmember Nagan-Gast.

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Thank you, Mayor and City Council members, community and the public and staff.

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It's been a hard few weeks for me.

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I've really been trying to figure out, you know, what's right and what's wrong.

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And part of this, and I appreciate that having the city provide factual information or neutral,

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or neutral on either measure I or Q, we seem to focus on Q, but measure I is equally important.

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And I want to comment just generally about what kind of web page we're going to provide,

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because this is first for me what the city is providing, I've seen them in other cities I've worked in when there's a referendum that have been

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petition driven by the community as opposed to the city actually producing the actual ballot measure themselves.

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In this case the city did not, this was driven by community members and I first want to ask some question on measure I.

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When I went to measure I today and maybe things changed ten minutes, but it directed you directly to measure D.

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I would hope we try to keep some things on measure I specifically,

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and I didn't have a chance to read what was posted ten minutes ago on the computer,

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but to be able to know what is posted that we could have it actually on the measure I cite.

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And also, the city attorney did provide an analysis, is that going to be posted an impartial analysis?

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I know that that goes with your, could you explain what that is and if we could,

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I'm interested if we could post it on the city's website, too.

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Yes, so the City Attorney's Office prepared an impartial analysis.

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And submitted it to the clerk, per the resolution that the council adopted, it specified the timeline for the impartial analysis submission. So that is on the county's website. And I'm sure we can put links to that analysis on the city's web page as well. Right. I just, you know, I appreciate it just to have it there so somebody wouldn't have to necessarily go or wait till the county publishes their ballot. And then I just have a number of questions.

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I want to ask about, in general, about posting something on site.

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Are we going to have an FAQ question or just, what exactly are we posting on the website?

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Sure.

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So what we tried to do was anticipate some of the questions to be out there and kind of

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just build something out that would give people aggressively more information about it.

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So there's a very, very high level just summary at the top.

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There's background and history of both items for measure I and measure Q.

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There's details about the actual ballot measures and some summaries about what a yes vote means,

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what a no vote means, what happens if we vote no on, if the community votes no on either of these measures,

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as well as specifically for measure Q quite a lot of facts just about the 555 Kelly project

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itself and what's contained in the agreements. And then links again as you pointed out the link

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to the measure D page for background on measure D, which is related to measure I and a link

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to the 555 Kelly project page for measure Q. And that page has the whole history of the project

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going from the RFQ that the city issued in 2022 all the way through the referendum being

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accepted. So there's quite a bit of information there. I'm sure we'll add to it as we go.

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I mean, I think the city clerk is adding links to the impartial analysis as we speak. And

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again, the point is to get as much factual impartial information in front of the community as

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possible. Right. So because when a city attorney provides an impartial analysis,

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to me that's impartial, so to me that was important to provide the city attorney's analysis.

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But you would also mention, and I don't know if that comes from the city attorney's summaries of yes or no vote, what that means.

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When you say we're going to provide what a yes vote means versus what a no vote means, how are you providing that?

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The detail, did you want to take that?

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The detail there is at the very base level so I guess on I means that the map for

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measure D will be amended to be the map that's contained in the LCLUP as the town center

430
00:48:00,900 --> 00:48:01,200
map.

431
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:08,140
A no vote means that measure D will not be changed and the map will remain as a chromias.

432
00:48:08,140 --> 00:48:10,800
I mean, it's that level of detail.

433
00:48:11,020 --> 00:48:14,760
It doesn't go into consequences and costs and all those things.

434
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:19,400
It's really just at the bare minimum what happens with yes or a no.

435
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:24,900
So that people truly understand what their yes vote means versus what a no vote means.

436
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:29,560
So let me go to measure Q. What is what would I know?

437
00:48:29,740 --> 00:48:31,240
What are you going to say what a no vote means?

438
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:34,840
Maybe I'll let you cover that because it is a little bit nuanced.

439
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:35,360
So,

440
00:48:39,260 --> 00:48:54,980
um, and this is also covered in my impartial analysis, but the impartial analysis is a very—it has to be a very succinct statement of what the ordinance does, and it can't extrapolate beyond what the actual ordinance does.

441
00:48:55,480 --> 00:49:04,800
It does identify yes or no, but I was also limited to number of words, so I also had to be very sparse with the language.

442
00:49:07,220 --> 00:49:22,960
The city's web page on MeasureQ also identifies, yes and no, but I think gives a little bit more context, so a no vote would mean basically that the ordinance is not adopted and cannot be effectuated so that the agreements would not go into effect.

443
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:33,740
And there is a time frame by which the city would be limited to reintroducing the ordinance to one year after if the ordinance is not adopted.

444
00:49:33,740 --> 00:49:38,780
Does it get into whether the permits are still valid, like the proposal?

445
00:49:38,900 --> 00:49:39,280
No, it does not.

446
00:49:39,900 --> 00:49:43,920
But isn't, do we know if that's true or not, whether it is?

447
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:49,140
Well, the coastal development permit has a specific timeframe, but this ordinance and

448
00:49:49,140 --> 00:49:50,680
the website doesn't identify it.

449
00:49:50,720 --> 00:49:54,620
I think it links to the 555 Kelly page where people can find the coastal

450
00:49:54,620 --> 00:49:57,740
development permit and that information may be there.

451
00:49:58,860 --> 00:50:07,620
And does it talk about all about if it, let's say it is a no, does it talk about a different project or something?

452
00:50:07,620 --> 00:50:09,140
No, it does not know.

453
00:50:10,060 --> 00:50:17,820
So we are limited to providing factual information that it has to be factual unbiased information.

454
00:50:19,240 --> 00:50:28,320
So, but let's just say let me just throw out a question, does Measure Q show any funding

455
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:34,220
sources, you know, would we ask the question, does Measure Q have any funding sources that

456
00:50:34,220 --> 00:50:35,380
are taxpayer funds?

457
00:50:36,500 --> 00:50:43,600
So, in this instance, as we provide the details about 555 Kelly, there is a reference to

458
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:46,260
through the budget, the current estimated budget,

459
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:48,200
and the funding sources for that budget.

460
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:53,580
So individuals that have to go through on their own,

461
00:50:53,660 --> 00:50:55,400
to figure out whether those are private

462
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:57,060
or taxpayer funding?

463
00:50:57,980 --> 00:51:01,340
Well, it references city and county,

464
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:03,980
or state and county grants and loans.

465
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:06,860
Which are taxpayer funds, right?

466
00:51:07,220 --> 00:51:08,840
Right, it's public money.

467
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:10,340
Then does,

468
00:51:13,860 --> 00:51:16,540
what about, you know, talking specific about the lawsuit?

469
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:25,500
Is the lawsuit against the City of Half Moon Bay about 555 Kelly, or is it about our housing

470
00:51:25,500 --> 00:51:27,680
element and lack of-

471
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:32,500
I can't speculate on what the lawsuit is about beyond what's on the paper.

472
00:51:32,940 --> 00:51:40,420
So the RIT petition does not mention 555 Kelly, and so the page for measure Q doesn't identify

473
00:51:40,420 --> 00:51:41,140
provide the lawsuit.

474
00:51:45,260 --> 00:51:46,720
Okay, here's another one.

475
00:51:47,550 --> 00:51:52,900
My understanding, and I think I heard somebody tonight speak about it, that there were members

476
00:51:52,900 --> 00:52:03,600
of the community that provided comments to the city that examined the argument for, again,

477
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:09,360
I think it was the four argument that provided comments to the city.

478
00:52:09,500 --> 00:52:14,580
Does the city review those comments that determine whether those are factual or not?

479
00:52:15,500 --> 00:52:27,240
Or will the city actually provide links or provide those comments from the community that's questioned what that was arguments?

480
00:52:28,220 --> 00:52:30,300
I can't answer the first question.

481
00:52:30,720 --> 00:52:37,440
We did receive them, but for the second part of the question, each of the measure I

482
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:43,540
am measure Q web pages at the bottom, we're having an issue getting it to sync properly,

483
00:52:43,720 --> 00:52:47,880
but I think by tomorrow you'll be able to go there and there'll be a link that'll take

484
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:54,440
you to a page that will include public comments we received related to these items and the emails

485
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:56,420
that your reference team will be included there.

486
00:52:56,820 --> 00:52:58,120
Yes, so people will be able to see them.

487
00:52:58,700 --> 00:53:01,440
So they'll see, you know, because as my understanding,

488
00:53:01,620 --> 00:53:06,200
there was some specific concerns on arguments for,

489
00:53:06,340 --> 00:53:07,600
from members of the community,

490
00:53:08,540 --> 00:53:10,600
that perhaps there were false and misleading statements.

491
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:13,440
Perhaps, I don't know.

492
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:14,140
Yes, those emails.

493
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:15,120
Not in the city to respond.

494
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:16,080
Those emails will be there.

495
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:16,500
Yes.

496
00:53:17,580 --> 00:53:19,860
Those emails were received by the city

497
00:53:19,860 --> 00:53:22,600
and those will be linked in the public comments page

498
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:29,500
on each measure webpage. And if any public comments come in after tonight, they would be also

499
00:53:29,500 --> 00:53:33,580
identified and put in that. So we'll keep it. Yes, we will keep it refreshed.

500
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:35,580
As things go on. Yes.

501
00:53:36,420 --> 00:53:48,840
Okay, so it's not our intention to have an FAQ necessarily on this. We'll just have links to various items.

502
00:53:50,120 --> 00:54:00,600
You know, because a lot of times we'll do an FAQ or trying to explain or typical questions that we hear in the community asking, you know, big ones always about taxpayer funds.

503
00:54:00,740 --> 00:54:15,840
I'm going to use taxpayer funds for a while now, but that question does come up. Are we going to address it anyway or we're just going to direct folks to various sites that they can determine on whether state and county funding is taxpayer funds or not.

504
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:28,100
So, I think that there are some questions on the web page that are answered, but for the most part, it's the intent is to just provide factual information.

505
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:39,840
So, sometimes factual is a degree of what somebody thinks interprets, they think is factual or not, right?

506
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:45,700
But what we're going to produce as a city is actual documents that we have, or

507
00:54:45,700 --> 00:54:49,240
they've been approved, or they've been submitted by the public.

508
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:52,300
And then it's up to other people to determine whether that's faxal or not.

509
00:54:52,580 --> 00:54:56,280
Well, I think that there are some links to documents, but

510
00:54:56,280 --> 00:55:01,360
there is also information on the page that can just be read.

511
00:55:01,700 --> 00:55:09,060
And so as the city manager mentioned, there's information about the 555 Kelly project generally.

512
00:55:09,060 --> 00:55:22,060
And it has just details about the APN, the parking spaces that are required on-site and

513
00:55:22,060 --> 00:55:27,360
off-site, there are details about the units, the size of the units, that type of thing.

514
00:55:27,620 --> 00:55:32,700
So those are listed out in form on the website.

515
00:55:32,700 --> 00:55:38,960
But there are also links to other pages within the city's website to provide more information.

516
00:55:39,780 --> 00:55:54,260
And then the actual document that gets printed with the county ballots will have who the signatories who sign on behalf of the argument will have those there, right?

517
00:55:54,620 --> 00:55:58,060
Is that where that shows up or is that going to show up on our web page too?

518
00:55:58,060 --> 00:56:06,960
No, that's on the county's website that has the argument, and it does identify the five individuals who are listed as thought.

519
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:12,380
Because I heard, and I think I heard tonight, there's a current council member, but

520
00:56:12,380 --> 00:56:20,960
there's also a past council member and a candidate council member that signed the pro argument.

521
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:28,800
So I'm just wondering how, to me, the city doesn't, I'm not going to deal with that, right?

522
00:56:28,900 --> 00:56:35,040
That totally just sticks with the county because that's part of the argument that gets submitted as part of the county's.

523
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:37,900
That's part of the county's ballot materials, right?

524
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:43,040
Our goal is to provide factual information about the measures and

525
00:56:43,900 --> 00:56:49,020
what is being proposed and background about what is being proposed.

526
00:56:49,020 --> 00:56:52,500
Okay. All right. Thank you. Thank you.

527
00:56:53,820 --> 00:56:55,080
Any other council members?

528
00:56:57,980 --> 00:57:01,060
Is there anyone else in the audience who would like to address

529
00:57:01,060 --> 00:57:01,980
item 7a?

530
00:57:04,900 --> 00:57:09,600
Yeah, I'm just checking. And anybody online who would like to address this item,

531
00:57:09,780 --> 00:57:16,900
you can raise your hand and be unmuted. Okay. Seeing none, I'll bring it back. Did you wish

532
00:57:16,900 --> 00:57:22,620
to comment or question? Okay. Then we're moving on. Item 7b is the online

533
00:57:22,620 --> 00:57:24,320
in line city council public comment form.

534
00:57:27,030 --> 00:57:37,730
All right, so I don't know for member but last meeting we had a public comment with the suggestion of adding a form on our website to make public comments easier for members of the community.

535
00:57:38,070 --> 00:57:41,890
So we heard that feedback and we thought it was a fabulous idea.

536
00:57:42,250 --> 00:57:52,550
So we implemented that since our last meeting and now we have a form on our website where you can submit a public comment directly to your council members.

537
00:57:52,550 --> 00:57:59,450
whatever you put in that form will automatically be forwarded to the five council members as well as myself and our

538
00:57:59,450 --> 00:58:06,130
assistant city clerk for the record. So we're encouraging the public to take advantage of this awesome new form.

539
00:58:06,370 --> 00:58:13,190
And the way you can do that is you can go to the city website by clicking government and then going to the

540
00:58:13,190 --> 00:58:17,270
communications city clerk tab and clicking commenting at a city council meeting.

541
00:58:17,790 --> 00:58:22,450
And there is a link there and it will have you directed to a form that looks like

542
00:58:24,850 --> 00:58:51,330
It's a very basic form and it's very washed out on the screen, but there's a section for your first name, last name if you want to provide your phone number or your email and then you can fill in the subject line and then whatever comments you want to send to the council, but we did want to give the disclaimer that your comment is going to be public record and anything that you send will be added to the agenda packet and viewable to the general public.

543
00:58:51,330 --> 00:59:06,010
So, if it's not something that you want there, I wouldn't send it, but if it's something for an item on the council meeting agenda, we would love to have you try it out and we're hoping to have some test subjects. So if everyone wants to try it out, please give it a go.

544
00:59:07,150 --> 00:59:16,970
I'm just wondering if you think it would be a good idea maybe to have a link to it from the agenda's page as well. Yeah, we can do that. Yeah, I think that would make it easier less clicks to get there.

545
00:59:16,970 --> 00:59:21,090
you know, trigger a lot of comments so if we could cross-link those anything.

546
00:59:21,190 --> 00:59:24,690
Yeah, we could maybe even do that on the first page of the agenda so people see it right away.

547
00:59:24,910 --> 00:59:28,290
Yeah. I think it's great. Thank you for doing that. Council member comments.

548
00:59:30,110 --> 00:59:33,510
Okay. I do have a speaker, Kurt Bianchi.

549
00:59:38,780 --> 00:59:41,840
Greetings Mayor, Council members and staff.

550
00:59:43,100 --> 00:59:49,500
I was a person who had suggested the form in addition to some,

551
00:59:49,500 --> 00:59:59,980
Um, just some suggestions about written communication to the council and some of the written some of the suggestions I made for written comment got incorporated into the decorum.

552
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:24,220
The document, I appreciate that. And I came here tonight because I wanted to thank staff, specifically for actually implementing this form. So I feel like I made a little difference here in half of May. I haven't lived here that long, but it was something that my previous city had. So I just wanted to say thanks to staff. So I appreciate it. Thank you, Kurt. Thanks for coming on down.

553
01:00:26,620 --> 01:00:29,980
That's the only speaker slip I have. Is there anybody in the audience who would like to comment?

554
01:00:29,980 --> 01:00:31,040
But Nancy, sorry,

555
01:00:36,040 --> 01:01:02,360
I didn't fill out a form, I didn't know, I want to say anything because I didn't know about this, it's a great idea what I'm only concerned about having been a staff member for a city before and knowing what the council faces and applying commission face is there going to be a deadline so that they have to get their comments in by a certain time so that you don't get bombarded with stuff at three o'clock in the afternoon of the night of a meeting.

556
01:01:06,220 --> 01:01:09,580
I anticipate there might be some problems with that aspect.

557
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:11,860
I think it's a good idea, but.

558
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:19,980
Yeah, so we had a discussion about the timing of comments specific to agendas.

559
01:01:20,540 --> 01:01:24,180
Now people can use that form to comment outside of meeting agendas.

560
01:01:24,900 --> 01:01:27,320
But we did discuss a cutoff date.

561
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:30,280
What's the status of implementing that policy?

562
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:30,940
That's all.

563
01:01:31,300 --> 01:01:32,120
Okay, thank you, Nancy.

564
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:47,940
Yeah, so we didn't receive any comments for this agenda, so there's nothing to implement right now, but we'll take public comments up until 2pm to be incorporated into the agenda, and then anything after that will be added as late correspondence at the end of the agenda.

565
01:01:48,420 --> 01:01:52,560
So if we get a lot of comments afterwards, they would just be added to the late correspondence section.

566
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:53,400
And that's great.

567
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:57,280
And I just want to say that I noted another change

568
01:01:57,280 --> 01:02:01,420
at the top of the agenda, a recommendation from Jan Hanson

569
01:02:01,420 --> 01:02:04,700
about dealing with the meeting disruption

570
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:10,000
and also making clear that people may comment online

571
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:12,400
and it's okay, it's the hybrid way.

572
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:14,920
You don't have to feel bad about not being here in person.

573
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:16,680
So I see those changes are made too.

574
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:19,340
I just want to acknowledge that and say thank you.

575
01:02:19,340 --> 01:02:29,760
I don't have any other speaker slips on one B. Is there anybody online who would like to address this item of the comment form?

576
01:02:31,380 --> 01:02:39,340
Seeing none, council members? Okay, so I think we can move on. Thank you.

577
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:43,260
We're going to public forum now,

578
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:51,060
so I'm trying

579
01:02:54,550 --> 01:02:55,410
to find a name here.

580
01:02:55,410 --> 01:02:57,750
Oh, Jimmy Benjamin, first speaker.

581
01:03:03,420 --> 01:03:06,060
Thank you, Jimmy Benjamin, 400 Policitos Avenue,

582
01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:08,880
good evening, council, staff, members of the public.

583
01:03:09,140 --> 01:03:10,120
It's nice to see you all.

584
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:15,020
I didn't want to comment on the public comment form per se,

585
01:03:15,220 --> 01:03:16,960
but with respect to the late deadline,

586
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:19,020
I didn't want to offer one public comment

587
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:21,000
that I'd mentioned in passing.

588
01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:23,980
I don't know if it filtered its way out to the broader group,

589
01:03:24,300 --> 01:03:28,320
but those of us who try to develop thought integrated responses,

590
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:34,900
is sometimes need time after an agenda item is published, and if it gets published on

591
01:03:34,900 --> 01:03:41,440
a Friday for a meeting on Tuesday, that doesn't give us a lot of time to do our part of the

592
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:44,800
civic duty that I think you look for us to do.

593
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:52,920
So my suggestion was to respect the idea of a late correspondence section, but to protect

594
01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:57,660
those of us who need more time to provide you with information, to be sure that the agenda

595
01:03:57,660 --> 01:04:02,800
to report is published far enough in advance that we have that week of time that we need.

596
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:08,460
So I'm asking that the, not that you work harder and faster, but that there's an offset

597
01:04:08,460 --> 01:04:13,940
of time from the time the agenda item is presented, that those of us in the public need to comment

598
01:04:13,940 --> 01:04:15,980
on, and to the time it's discussed.

599
01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:21,520
If we don't get it done in a week, that's kind of on us, but, you know, if we see it on

600
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:22,660
on Friday, Monday,

601
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:32,760
rehabilitation project for Highway 1.

602
01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:39,500
I think many of you were here for that part and we, at the time, had a conversation about

603
01:04:40,060 --> 01:04:46,020
the potential impacts on hydrology of expanding the footprint of our roads.

604
01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:52,380
And it was a pretty carefully analyzed, thoughtful conversation, lots of documents.

605
01:04:52,860 --> 01:04:55,060
The Planning Commission looked at it and thought about it.

606
01:04:55,060 --> 01:05:02,000
that their resolution identified just a couple of places where we thought the road should be widened.

607
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:08,740
When the item was appealed to the City Council, the City Council upheld those restrictions.

608
01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:14,940
And when the item was appealed to the Coastal Commission, the Coastal Commission upheld those restrictions.

609
01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:19,980
It's right there in the Coastal Development Permit that was issued by the Coastal Commission.

610
01:05:19,980 --> 01:05:27,640
And so, it was quite a surprise to find out that Highway 1 is being widened, Willie Nilly.

611
01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:34,320
All along Casa del Mar, North of Frenchman's Creek Road, I wish I'd been paying more attention.

612
01:05:34,580 --> 01:05:41,180
But my perception is it and the highway, the frontage road and the paved trails are getting wider.

613
01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:48,340
This concerns me because that's the area that we should be able to absorb water that's coming

614
01:05:48,340 --> 01:05:54,260
into our sensitive habitats. It also concerns me because the plant vegetation that used to

615
01:05:54,260 --> 01:05:59,540
be adjacent to that area has been stripped away. And here we are just a couple of months

616
01:05:59,540 --> 01:06:04,020
before the rainy season. I've raised this with the Coastal Commission. I will keep you posted.

617
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:06,580
Thank you. Thank you, Jimmy.

618
01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:10,500
The next speaker is Joaquin Jimenez.

619
01:06:20,250 --> 01:06:24,790
Good evening, Adam Vermeer. I'm a council member, a city staff member of the public.

620
01:06:31,150 --> 01:06:39,630
I'm going to speak again about a couple of days after the event, so I did not have the opportunity

621
01:06:39,630 --> 01:06:43,550
to speak with our community members about the event.

622
01:06:43,550 --> 01:06:53,490
And a lot of different things came up, most of them, 99.9% of the comments have been positive.

623
01:06:55,450 --> 01:07:04,250
The images, pictures, videos are still flowing into the social media, Instagram, Facebook,

624
01:07:04,250 --> 01:07:12,570
look next door, I mean everywhere, half of the base being well recognized as far south

625
01:07:12,570 --> 01:07:17,870
as Bakersville for the event, for the volcano days.

626
01:07:19,190 --> 01:07:22,450
One of the things that came up is a concern.

627
01:07:24,290 --> 01:07:32,890
A comment came up about a person, a person who was, you know, a supposition in half of

628
01:07:32,890 --> 01:07:43,390
Bay about downtown vendors, you know, they were complaining about the event. I made a call,

629
01:07:43,950 --> 01:07:52,630
I made a call to the president of the downtown association to ask if any of the vendors had any

630
01:07:52,630 --> 01:08:00,510
complaints about a couple of days. And no, they were no complaints. So I don't know what this

631
01:08:00,510 --> 01:08:03,330
So the person came up with all the complaints

632
01:08:03,330 --> 01:08:04,530
from the local vendors.

633
01:08:06,290 --> 01:08:09,170
Actually, it came out positive.

634
01:08:09,830 --> 01:08:13,350
We want to see this event, having over 1,000 people

635
01:08:13,350 --> 01:08:17,970
gather downtown or local businesses benefit from.

636
01:08:19,310 --> 01:08:20,670
Restaurant stores.

637
01:08:21,370 --> 01:08:24,690
We went to Cunha Country Store, my brother did,

638
01:08:25,470 --> 01:08:29,410
and asked George, the father, about how

639
01:08:29,410 --> 01:08:35,050
was the weekend for them and they said great they were happy they were happy

640
01:08:35,050 --> 01:08:40,930
Vakero days to happen right there right next to them it's an event that

641
01:08:40,930 --> 01:08:44,850
celebrates you know the heritage of the coast side you know or a question

642
01:08:44,850 --> 01:08:49,750
heritage of the coast side San Mateo County California the Southwest you know

643
01:08:49,750 --> 01:08:57,130
Davakero's you Samuel who's a Vakero was recognized today for his work you know

644
01:08:57,130 --> 01:08:58,950
The volcano is not about just riding horses.

645
01:09:00,310 --> 01:09:01,470
You know, anybody can ride a horse.

646
01:09:01,930 --> 01:09:03,650
It takes more skills to be a volcano.

647
01:09:04,870 --> 01:09:06,830
You know, any shows prove, you know, with some well,

648
01:09:07,090 --> 01:09:09,150
you know, with that a horse, he was able to,

649
01:09:09,290 --> 01:09:12,370
not to rope a bull, you know, and save a life.

650
01:09:14,030 --> 01:09:15,730
So in the volcano of this celebration,

651
01:09:16,110 --> 01:09:19,270
we are very proud, you know, to continue to do

652
01:09:19,270 --> 01:09:21,430
or celebration of the heritage of the coast

653
01:09:22,050 --> 01:09:24,970
in the equestrian culture of San Mateo County.

654
01:09:25,570 --> 01:09:25,830
Thank you.

655
01:09:25,830 --> 01:09:26,870
Thank you very much.

656
01:09:28,410 --> 01:09:30,710
The next speaker is Jay Kling.

657
01:09:35,440 --> 01:09:35,980
Good evening.

658
01:09:36,260 --> 01:09:40,820
I just had a quick question in regards to the use of floor cameras in Half-Member.

659
01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:44,160
I'm wondering whether there's an update which you can share.

660
01:09:45,540 --> 01:09:45,960
Thank you.

661
01:09:47,970 --> 01:09:52,210
I believe it's coming up on agenda, maybe the next meeting agenda.

662
01:09:52,470 --> 01:09:55,350
September 15th, we're going to do a study session on the flock.

663
01:09:55,750 --> 01:09:56,230
Yes.

664
01:09:56,230 --> 01:10:03,990
Yes, because the pilot contract that we have for the system only goes until like October one.

665
01:10:04,210 --> 01:10:04,830
End of October.

666
01:10:05,390 --> 01:10:09,730
Or end of October, yeah, so we'll be discussing it at the September 15 meeting.

667
01:10:10,250 --> 01:10:12,130
Okay, good then I'll come back at that meeting.

668
01:10:12,310 --> 01:10:12,650
Thank you.

669
01:10:12,910 --> 01:10:13,110
Thanks.

670
01:10:16,730 --> 01:10:23,590
Is there anyone online who would like to comment on public forum seeing none?

671
01:10:24,490 --> 01:10:29,810
We will close public forum and we will move on to the consent calendar.

672
01:10:29,810 --> 01:10:29,870
here.

673
01:10:32,030 --> 01:10:41,630
I'm going to, sorry, go ahead. I'd like you to pull an item, 9-H.

674
01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:03,860
Reading for

675
01:11:03,860 --> 01:11:13,000
the adoption of the zoning changes pursuant to the housing element. Okay. So I'm going

676
01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:18,160
to read anybody else want to pull anything before I read the items? Okay. So the consent

677
01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:24,380
calendar consists of item 9a, wave reading of resolutions and ordinances, item 9b,

678
01:11:24,760 --> 01:11:30,880
approve minutes of the August 18th, 2026 Special City Council meeting, item 9c,

679
01:11:31,320 --> 01:11:37,240
approve minutes of the August 18th, 2026, regular City Council meeting, item 9d,

680
01:11:37,460 --> 01:11:42,940
conflict of interest code update, item 9e, approve the amended 2026 calendar of

681
01:11:42,940 --> 01:11:47,300
City Council meetings, item 9f, approve mayor's list of updated City Council

682
01:11:47,300 --> 01:11:50,880
Council representatives and designated assignments for 2026.

683
01:11:51,420 --> 01:11:56,480
Item 9G, award professional services agreement to Robert Nihaz, Inc.,

684
01:11:56,480 --> 01:11:57,380
pursuer rate study,

685
01:12:02,350 --> 01:12:04,070
and that's it.

686
01:12:07,260 --> 01:12:11,000
So I'm going to take a roll call if someone would like to make a motion.

687
01:12:11,380 --> 01:12:14,200
I move what you said.

688
01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:16,800
Minus item 9H.

689
01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:17,640
Minus 9H.

690
01:12:18,060 --> 01:12:18,580
Yes, okay.

691
01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:19,960
Is there a second?

692
01:12:20,180 --> 01:12:20,580
Second.

693
01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:22,100
Can I have a roll call please?

694
01:12:22,100 --> 01:12:25,540
And Madam Mayor, we should take public comment on the items before we-

695
01:12:25,540 --> 01:12:26,540
Okay, that's a good idea.

696
01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:28,780
I almost forgot, I did forget.

697
01:12:30,440 --> 01:12:34,980
Is there anybody in the room who would like to address any of the consent agenda items?

698
01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:41,080
You may come to the podium and comment at this time, or if you're online and wish to address them,

699
01:12:41,180 --> 01:12:43,080
you can raise your hand and you will be unmuted to speak.

700
01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:47,980
Seeing none, I think we can move on to the roll call, though.

701
01:12:47,980 --> 01:12:53,640
And Madam Mayor, we don't have to take a roll call on items 9A through 9G, because it doesn't include the ordinance.

702
01:12:54,740 --> 01:12:58,240
Or you can do that if you want, you can still take a roll call if you'd like.

703
01:12:58,560 --> 01:13:00,220
I think we'll take a roll call on the other items.

704
01:13:00,740 --> 01:13:00,800
Yeah.

705
01:13:02,900 --> 01:13:03,960
Council Member Brownstone?

706
01:13:04,340 --> 01:13:04,580
Yes.

707
01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:05,800
Council Member Johnson?

708
01:13:06,140 --> 01:13:06,360
Yes.

709
01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:07,900
Council Member Nagan-Gast?

710
01:13:08,220 --> 01:13:08,380
Yes.

711
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:09,520
Mayor Reddick?

712
01:13:09,780 --> 01:13:10,880
Yes. Motion carries.

713
01:13:11,580 --> 01:13:16,040
So we will move on and have a report on item 9H, adopt an ordinance,

714
01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:22,040
I mean, it's a municipal code and local coastal program to implement the six cycle housing element.

715
01:13:24,750 --> 01:13:28,910
Madam Mayor, we don't have a report prepared and I wonder if maybe council member and

716
01:13:28,910 --> 01:13:32,170
I guess would share some of the reasoning and then we can respond to that.

717
01:13:32,530 --> 01:13:32,990
Yes, thank you.

718
01:13:33,050 --> 01:13:33,250
Thank you.

719
01:13:33,750 --> 01:13:36,870
And I have just two questions and then a statement prepared.

720
01:13:37,090 --> 01:13:39,870
As you know, the first reading I voted no on this.

721
01:13:40,710 --> 01:13:46,130
And so, something did come up by just a couple of questions and

722
01:13:46,130 --> 01:13:55,830
And then I have a statement prepared, I'm going to want to read, but sections 6 says the ordinance becomes effective after 30 days and upon acknowledgement by the California Coastal Commission.

723
01:13:56,910 --> 01:13:58,690
What does the word acknowledgement mean?

724
01:13:58,770 --> 01:14:05,650
In this case, I don't think I've typically, I see certified certification, I'm sure what acknowledgement means in this case.

725
01:14:05,650 --> 01:14:06,730
Yeah,

726
01:14:18,340 --> 01:14:24,680
I think in this case, it is just, it means effectively certification.

727
01:14:25,420 --> 01:14:28,940
It can't take effect until it is certified by the Coastal Commission.

728
01:14:30,140 --> 01:14:41,000
So shouldn't it say acknowledge the certification by, I mean, to me it was just an odd thing to hang in there, just acknowledge that.

729
01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:44,660
I think that's the intent is that its acknowledgement is certification.

730
01:14:45,240 --> 01:14:46,640
Can we say that?

731
01:14:47,580 --> 01:14:48,600
Can we provide that?

732
01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:51,580
Can we add that in there just to acknowledge the certification?

733
01:14:52,480 --> 01:14:56,400
Yes, I think that would be a non-substantive change at this point if you want to substitute

734
01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:58,660
the word in and a majority of the council agrees.

735
01:14:58,660 --> 01:14:58,900
Please.

736
01:14:59,120 --> 01:14:59,460
Yes.

737
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:29,580
Clear that up. Okay. I mean, I'd like to clear that. Again, remember, I always have things about definitions and words. They mean something, and you come back if we don't deal with it. Right. Just to be clear, though, it doesn't matter what's in the ordinance about whether it's certification or acknowledgement. The public resources code provides that it has to be certified before it becomes effective in the coastal zone, which is all of Half Moon Bay. So we can change this word if a majority of the council

738
01:15:30,220 --> 01:15:41,060
desires that change but it wouldn't it wouldn't negate the effect. Yeah, yeah, it's up to the council. Again, I'm voting no on this, but thank you.

739
01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:43,600
The recommendation doesn't have that language, right?

740
01:15:44,700 --> 01:15:52,680
No, it just has acknowledgement in there and whether we change it. That was my question. Why is it having acknowledgement, not certification?

741
01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:55,900
I'm not sure it's control language for one.

742
01:15:56,500 --> 01:15:56,660
Yeah.

743
01:15:57,480 --> 01:15:59,520
It's actually a really good idea.

744
01:16:00,380 --> 01:16:03,740
Let's substitute certification if it's okay with you guys.

745
01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:05,760
I'll second that.

746
01:16:07,180 --> 01:16:07,780
Okay.

747
01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:14,840
And then the next question, the ordinance says no appeal of an approval by a by-right project is allowed.

748
01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:17,960
Does that mean no local appeal only?

749
01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:27,440
Or is that, does that mean also mean this ordinance does not, it does or it doesn't eliminate any appeal rights that may still exist to the Coastal Commission.

750
01:16:28,260 --> 01:16:32,420
So if it's a by-right, is there still any appeal to the Coastal Commission?

751
01:16:32,900 --> 01:16:40,840
I think I read if it's in a coastal zone, it's a department head, coastal development permit.

752
01:16:41,980 --> 01:16:45,820
But does that mean no appeals to the Coastal Commission?

753
01:16:48,560 --> 01:17:07,100
Well, Denise may have to correct me if I'm wrong here, but my understanding of by-right is that it does not apply in the appeal jurisdiction within the coastal zone, only in other areas, which in the town and half of the Bay is still in the coastal zone, but not the appeal jurisdiction, so it would not be appealable.

754
01:17:09,160 --> 01:17:13,940
But is it still appealable if it's in the appealable areas of the coastal zone?

755
01:17:13,940 --> 01:17:14,260
No.

756
01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:15,040
No.

757
01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:16,680
So it's not appealable at all.

758
01:17:17,220 --> 01:17:17,240
No.

759
01:17:17,240 --> 01:17:18,160
You agree with that?

760
01:17:18,260 --> 01:17:18,760
Is that correct?

761
01:17:20,380 --> 01:17:27,060
I believe so, but I haven't, excuse me, I believe so, but I haven't actually researched that particular issue.

762
01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:29,060
I believe Director Laco is correct though.

763
01:17:30,020 --> 01:17:30,320
Okay.

764
01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:32,260
Well, there may be a test case.

765
01:17:32,980 --> 01:17:33,800
Something I'm loving.

766
01:17:34,160 --> 01:17:35,060
I mean, that's how me fine.

767
01:17:35,060 --> 01:17:40,160
Again, I'm voting no, but I think that's, it's a good question to find.

768
01:17:44,400 --> 01:17:49,600
I have a statement prepared, I'm going to say, again, I'll be voting no in this ordinance.

769
01:17:50,160 --> 01:17:54,020
This is not because I oppose housing or completing our housing element.

770
01:17:54,540 --> 01:17:59,380
I simply believe we are moving forward while some basic questions are still unanswered.

771
01:17:59,800 --> 01:18:04,200
First, the ordinance says it becomes effective upon coastal commission acknowledgement, but

772
01:18:04,200 --> 01:18:05,940
the legal requirement appears to be certification.

773
01:18:05,940 --> 01:18:10,180
I hear we're going to address that, we're going to have certification in there.

774
01:18:11,420 --> 01:18:17,780
The ordinance also says certain by rights projects that have no local appeal and no public hearing.

775
01:18:18,380 --> 01:18:22,600
Again, how does that work when the Coastal Christmastill apply?

776
01:18:23,380 --> 01:18:25,580
I didn't hear an answer on that, right?

777
01:18:25,720 --> 01:18:31,860
So we're not for sure certain whether we can appeal to the Coastal Commission in the appealable zone.

778
01:18:31,860 --> 01:18:32,900
I

779
01:18:36,380 --> 01:18:41,140
think Director Laco said that if it's in the Coastal Commission Appeals jurisdiction,

780
01:18:42,140 --> 01:18:48,420
then it still is appealable to the Coastal Commission, but if it's not in their appeals

781
01:18:48,420 --> 01:18:53,580
in their specific appeals jurisdiction, then there may not be a right to appeal.

782
01:18:53,780 --> 01:18:55,020
Right. That's how we are now.

783
01:18:55,380 --> 01:18:58,340
Is that correct, Director Laco? Did I summarize it correctly?

784
01:18:58,340 --> 01:19:09,760
Yeah, and I would add that it's my understanding that by-rate does not apply in the appeals jurisdiction.

785
01:19:12,400 --> 01:19:13,940
Okay, if that's true.

786
01:19:16,320 --> 01:19:20,060
All right. I'm bringing these up if that's-

787
01:19:20,060 --> 01:19:22,200
Could I ask a follow-on question at that point?

788
01:19:23,300 --> 01:19:28,940
So irrespective of by-right.

789
01:19:28,940 --> 01:19:40,280
But there are circumstances that development can be appealed to the Coastal Commission in

790
01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:47,580
the NOAA Peel Zone, if there's environmentally sensitive habitat or it's a major public works

791
01:19:47,580 --> 01:19:48,260
project.

792
01:19:50,280 --> 01:19:51,820
I think I'm correct about that.

793
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:52,580
That is correct.

794
01:19:52,700 --> 01:19:55,520
We went through that and we were doing the training, the fire training tower.

795
01:19:55,520 --> 01:20:03,640
And that was appealed because it was a parcel of land that was close to wetlands.

796
01:20:04,300 --> 01:20:07,960
And it was also, I think, a major public facility.

797
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:19,940
So now, if there's a buy-write, if a project area is zoned for buy-write, and these other

798
01:20:19,940 --> 01:20:22,440
other things are discovered, does that become appealable then?

799
01:20:23,240 --> 01:20:28,420
And the NOAA appeals on, like does that do those conditions still apply?

800
01:20:31,330 --> 01:20:41,370
It's a really good question, under SB 35, which allows by right, that would take that

801
01:20:41,370 --> 01:20:50,210
property out of the by right possibility, possibility of these by right, by right generally.

802
01:20:50,210 --> 01:20:58,090
I think it would be the same, but I'm not sure, and I'm not, I don't know if Denise knows the answer to that.

803
01:20:58,610 --> 01:21:06,570
I'm guessing when we established by right parcels, we've looked at the issue, are there natural resources, and what kind of a project would there be?

804
01:21:06,750 --> 01:21:08,530
So it might be answered up front of it.

805
01:21:09,190 --> 01:21:15,610
Yeah, right, and there are, there is a recent bill, city manager,

806
01:21:15,610 --> 01:21:37,330
Mr. Chair, just pointed to me a bill that was signed into law in 2025, which does limit the Coastal Commission's authority to hear appeals on certain residential housing projects in the coastal zone while also excluding projects in sensitive coastal areas from its broader sequa in full exemptions.

807
01:21:37,330 --> 01:21:39,350
So this is assembly bill 130.

808
01:21:39,350 --> 01:21:55,090
So I think there are exceptions that would prevent an appeal to the Coastal Commission even in the Coastal Commission appeal jurisdiction based on that review of the law.

809
01:22:00,400 --> 01:22:13,900
I know we talked earlier tonight unique half moon bay we're totally in the coastal zone and it brings different challenges for us to navigate through than a lot of the cities don't have to.

810
01:22:15,440 --> 01:22:22,200
That's something we need to acknowledge and always reckon with but let me finish my statement before we finish this item.

811
01:22:22,200 --> 01:22:30,900
So tonight, my question is, why are we rezoning particular properties if we already are discussing removing or replacing them later?

812
01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:35,340
There was a discussion on several properties coming back later and taking those out.

813
01:22:36,480 --> 01:22:40,060
And I would ask, were other reasonable sites fully considered?

814
01:22:40,860 --> 01:22:49,240
Does HCD actually housing and community development of the state of California, which HCD actually require these specific properties?

815
01:22:49,240 --> 01:22:53,220
or does the city have flexibility to use other appropriate sites?

816
01:22:53,980 --> 01:23:01,880
The ordinance says HCD requires the necessary zoning, but does it not say HCD selected every parcel before us tonight?

817
01:23:03,020 --> 01:23:07,840
And if we remove these sites after certification, what process do we have to go through again?

818
01:23:08,740 --> 01:23:12,620
We go through this whole combo, very long process again.

819
01:23:12,900 --> 01:23:14,180
For me, it comes down to this.

820
01:23:14,180 --> 01:23:21,920
If we already know there are questions about the sites and questions about how this ordinance will work, why approve it tonight and try to fix it later?

821
01:23:22,360 --> 01:23:28,560
I think we should have got the answers first before moving forward, and again, for that reason I would be voting no.

822
01:23:29,080 --> 01:23:30,360
Good night. Thank you.

823
01:23:33,100 --> 01:23:35,920
Any other comments or questions from Council members?

824
01:23:39,900 --> 01:23:41,240
I have no speaker slips.

825
01:23:41,240 --> 01:23:48,540
Is there anybody in the audience who would like to address this item of 9H, which is the adoption of the zoning changes pursuant to the

826
01:23:48,540 --> 01:23:50,340
How's the element certification?

827
01:23:51,680 --> 01:23:54,400
Is there anyone online who would like to discuss this item?

828
01:23:56,620 --> 01:24:04,080
Seeing none, I will entertain a motion for item 9H.

829
01:24:09,850 --> 01:24:10,430
I move that.

830
01:24:10,510 --> 01:24:14,490
We wave the second reading and adopt an ordinance amending title 18 zoning of the municipal

831
01:24:14,490 --> 01:24:20,410
code and local coastal program implementation plan to implement zoning changes identified

832
01:24:20,410 --> 01:24:26,330
provide in the local coastal program land use plan and the 6th cycle housing element.

833
01:24:27,710 --> 01:24:28,690
Do we have a second?

834
01:24:29,830 --> 01:24:30,330
I'll second.

835
01:24:31,310 --> 01:24:37,010
Just to clarify to the maker of the motion, do you want to propose any amendments to section

836
01:24:37,010 --> 01:24:37,590
6?

837
01:24:38,270 --> 01:24:39,430
Or do you want to leave it as is?

838
01:24:39,930 --> 01:24:42,270
You're talking about the word certification as opposed?

839
01:24:43,450 --> 01:24:43,550
Yes.

840
01:24:43,650 --> 01:24:44,790
Yes, I think we want to do that.

841
01:24:44,970 --> 01:24:46,370
Do you accept that amendment to your motion?

842
01:24:46,370 --> 01:24:52,390
Yes, so changing revising the word acknowledge in section 6 to certified yes

843
01:24:52,390 --> 01:25:00,270
And you like the second that amended motion. I like to second the amended motion. Okay. Could have a roll call please

844
01:25:01,150 --> 01:25:09,570
Councilmember Brownstone. Yes, councilmember Johnson. Yes, councilmember Nagan gas no mayor reddick. Yes motion carries

845
01:25:10,250 --> 01:25:10,990
Thank you

846
01:25:11,850 --> 01:25:15,170
so I'm going to call for a

847
01:25:15,170 --> 01:25:19,810
5-minute break, potentially as much as a 10-minute break.

848
01:25:20,710 --> 01:25:25,230
Give everybody a chance to use the facilities and meet and greet and all that good stuff, so.

849
01:25:26,570 --> 01:25:29,510
And when we come back, we're going to talk about the measure de-transfers.

850
01:25:51,890 --> 01:25:52,550
Your seats,

851
01:25:57,060 --> 01:26:03,840
we're going to be talking about item 10A, which is to approve 2026 measure de-transfers.

852
01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:10,220
All right, good evening, Mayor Ruddick and council members.

853
01:26:10,400 --> 01:26:15,700
I'm Ruby Assistant Planner and I'll be presenting on the Measure D transfers for 2026.

854
01:26:16,600 --> 01:26:23,120
But first, we want to give you a quick update on the municipal code amendments for Measure D.

855
01:26:23,940 --> 01:26:30,420
SAF has been working with Miller Planning Associates over the last four months on the larger implementation plan update.

856
01:26:30,420 --> 01:26:36,120
And part of this update is to address some administrative and implementation issues with

857
01:26:36,120 --> 01:26:43,360
measure D as required by our housing element program 6-8 and as requested by Council

858
01:26:43,360 --> 01:26:43,800
in the past.

859
01:26:44,560 --> 01:26:50,480
These code amendments are being drafted right now and the amendments were considering our

860
01:26:51,140 --> 01:26:57,700
fractional allocations for ADUs, some potential mechanisms for rolling over unused or expired

861
01:26:57,700 --> 01:27:04,640
standard allocations and improving administrative procedures for transparency and making the process

862
01:27:04,640 --> 01:27:08,040
overall less burdensome for both staff and applicants.

863
01:27:09,040 --> 01:27:15,140
We intend on finishing these measure D amendments ahead of the larger implementation plan update,

864
01:27:15,550 --> 01:27:21,860
which must be completed by the end of December 2027, but they will not be completed for the

865
01:27:21,860 --> 01:27:24,620
January measure D application period.

866
01:27:24,620 --> 01:27:25,660
So,

867
01:27:27,680 --> 01:27:32,780
getting into the transfers, measure D is the city's growth management system.

868
01:27:33,180 --> 01:27:39,000
Its purpose is to provide for orderly, sustainable, and responsible development.

869
01:27:39,460 --> 01:27:45,680
It is incorporated into the city's local coastal land use plan under policy 2-16.

870
01:27:46,160 --> 01:27:51,840
And it aims to concentrate development in existing developed areas, protect coastal and

871
01:27:51,840 --> 01:27:55,380
environmental resources and accommodate infrastructural constraints.

872
01:27:57,580 --> 01:28:04,700
Measure D was adopted in 1999 by voters and certified in 2009 by the Coastal Commission.

873
01:28:05,320 --> 01:28:13,660
And it accommodates for up to 1.5% of population growth annually, split between the downtown and the outside downtown areas.

874
01:28:14,680 --> 01:28:18,880
Within the downtown area, 0.5% is initially provided and

875
01:28:18,880 --> 01:28:22,780
and council each year can approve an additional bonus 0.5%,

876
01:28:23,110 --> 01:28:26,320
which it has historically and for 2026 as well.

877
01:28:27,930 --> 01:28:30,300
There are very few exemptions under MeasureD,

878
01:28:30,620 --> 01:28:33,500
which are the replacement of units on a one-to-one basis,

879
01:28:34,320 --> 01:28:35,760
and density bonus units.

880
01:28:38,830 --> 01:28:42,810
So the transfer process has only been done a few times in 2019,

881
01:28:43,250 --> 01:28:45,090
2021 and 2025.

882
01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:50,130
It's at the discretion of city council if transfers will be approved each year,

883
01:28:50,130 --> 01:28:54,190
how many and also what criteria will be considered.

884
01:28:54,990 --> 01:29:01,870
In 2019, Council adopted some criteria to consider for these transfers given that the code

885
01:29:01,870 --> 01:29:04,410
provides very minimal guidance on the process.

886
01:29:05,250 --> 01:29:10,810
It does provide that if the downtown base allocations though have not all been applied for

887
01:29:10,810 --> 01:29:15,150
by September 1st, today unused allocations may be transferred.

888
01:29:15,150 --> 01:29:25,510
At the March 10th, 2026 planning commission meeting, commissioners ratified the outside downtown application scoring and

889
01:29:25,510 --> 01:29:28,690
recommended that the City Council approve any available transfers.

890
01:29:31,020 --> 01:29:36,360
So this flow chart shows how the allocations were distributed for 2026.

891
01:29:36,960 --> 01:29:45,360
The 1.5% growth limit translated to 70 total allocations for this year.

892
01:29:45,360 --> 01:29:48,000
split between downtown and outside of downtown.

893
01:29:48,620 --> 01:29:52,660
All 23 available outside downtown allocations

894
01:29:52,660 --> 01:29:54,400
were distributed in March,

895
01:29:54,680 --> 01:29:57,740
leaving 20 allocation requests to be deferred.

896
01:29:58,280 --> 01:29:59,980
For downtown, we

897
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:22,920
We received only four allocation requests. And so there are 20 base allocations left over available for transfer. And staff provided an online form to all of these deferred applicants, asking them to complete it and reaffirm their interest in a measured allocation, and only 19 out of the 20 deferred applications requested transfers.

898
01:30:28,040 --> 01:30:33,540
So in 2019, again, when city council adopted the resolution for procedures for transfers,

899
01:30:33,540 --> 01:30:38,740
There were five criteria that were provided among these staff determined that the projects

900
01:30:38,740 --> 01:30:41,640
being recommended tonight meet all criteria.

901
01:30:42,460 --> 01:30:46,620
There are no known pending applications for downtown base allocations.

902
01:30:47,120 --> 01:30:52,920
All recommended projects include some form of more affordable housing and all recommended single

903
01:30:52,920 --> 01:30:59,560
family residences include an affordable component such as an ADU with one special case which

904
01:30:59,560 --> 01:31:01,340
I'll go into later on.

905
01:31:02,380 --> 01:31:08,180
Lastly, staff has provided a recommendation for this evening, but Council may provide any

906
01:31:08,180 --> 01:31:11,680
other applicable criteria to be considered for these transfers.

907
01:31:12,640 --> 01:31:18,360
There's one additional criterion that was written into the resolution that an applicant

908
01:31:18,360 --> 01:31:23,880
for a transfer should be able to demonstrate that the development permit applications be already

909
01:31:23,880 --> 01:31:28,060
prepared for a submittal before a measure D allocation is awarded.

910
01:31:28,060 --> 01:31:46,580
But this was not required of applicants because plan preparation can be quite costly for applicants and would not be reasonable for staff to take in these 19 applications that potentially would not have received a measure D transfer allocation or their project might change significantly.

911
01:31:47,340 --> 01:31:52,560
And this is the kind of barrier that we would want to address in our measure D code amendments.

912
01:31:52,560 --> 01:32:01,940
So to summarize the requested transfers, again, we received 19 requests out of the 20 that were previously deferred.

913
01:32:02,080 --> 01:32:07,320
The table on the right breaks down the allocation requests by type of housing.

914
01:32:07,900 --> 01:32:18,460
So nine allocation requests are for single-family residences with ADUs, nine for ADUs only, and one for single-family residents only.

915
01:32:20,280 --> 01:32:27,720
Diving a little bit deeper, this table shows the 15 projects which requested the 19 allocations

916
01:32:27,720 --> 01:32:30,960
and their corresponding application scores.

917
01:32:31,680 --> 01:32:38,440
We've highlighted that one single-family residence allocation request for 32-genelein,

918
01:32:38,440 --> 01:32:43,820
which would not typically be considered for transfer without an ADU component according

919
01:32:43,820 --> 01:32:46,260
to the 2019 criteria.

920
01:32:46,260 --> 01:32:53,160
But this is kind of a unique case as there is already a built ADU on the property.

921
01:32:54,020 --> 01:32:58,480
This existing ADU was part of a combined single family residence and

922
01:32:58,800 --> 01:33:04,040
ADU application that was approved in 2001, but only the ADU was ever built.

923
01:33:04,680 --> 01:33:10,200
And over the years the development rights to the single family home were extinguished.

924
01:33:10,700 --> 01:33:15,080
And the intention now is to build that single family home

925
01:33:15,080 --> 01:33:18,680
and convert the existing structure on the property to an ADU.

926
01:33:21,620 --> 01:33:28,100
Staff is recommending that the City Council approves the transfer of 19 of these remaining

927
01:33:28,100 --> 01:33:34,020
downtown base allocations based on the criteria explained earlier and the scoring approved

928
01:33:34,020 --> 01:33:36,760
by the Planning Commission in March.

929
01:33:38,980 --> 01:33:44,100
If the Council does not accept the recommendation, Council could direct staff to return with other

930
01:33:44,100 --> 01:33:49,660
criteria to consider for transfers, but if Council accepts the recommendation, the next

931
01:33:49,660 --> 01:33:54,920
steps would be for staff to return in December to establish the number of allocations for

932
01:33:54,920 --> 01:33:59,420
2027 for the application period, which would start in January.

933
01:34:00,660 --> 01:34:01,860
And thank you very much.

934
01:34:02,960 --> 01:34:03,700
Thank you.

935
01:34:03,800 --> 01:34:08,720
I'd just like to say, I thought the staff report was very well done, and I thought it was

936
01:34:08,720 --> 01:34:09,960
a nice presentation too.

937
01:34:09,960 --> 01:34:17,500
I felt like I really had a grasp on the issues after reading that staff report, so thank you to staff, very well done.

938
01:34:18,620 --> 01:34:21,620
I'll open this with clarifying questions from council members.

939
01:34:23,060 --> 01:34:24,120
Councilor Negan-Kast.

940
01:34:24,500 --> 01:34:33,460
I don't have a clarifying question, but I was a guy that was skeptical when we did the allocations 17.

941
01:34:34,260 --> 01:34:39,440
In multiple years, I wanted to split them up even more, but I see it this year.

942
01:34:39,440 --> 01:34:44,300
there were it's worked out pretty much everybody that wanted a measure D is

943
01:34:44,300 --> 01:34:48,260
going to get one right this requesting one if if the transfers are right right

944
01:34:48,260 --> 01:34:55,200
so yes thank you thank you I just want to comment on that too because I I had

945
01:34:55,200 --> 01:34:59,320
the impression that we were when we were first talking about this it was it last

946
01:34:59,320 --> 01:35:02,580
year this time and that some people weren't going to get their measure D's and

947
01:35:02,580 --> 01:35:05,380
now I'm hearing that everyone's kind of gotten it so I'm pretty pleased with

948
01:35:05,380 --> 01:35:07,640
this because I thought we were having some issues with that.

949
01:35:08,700 --> 01:35:09,620
And it was easy to read.

950
01:35:09,740 --> 01:35:14,220
This is not an easy topic to follow along with, but it's, you guys are doing a great job

951
01:35:14,220 --> 01:35:14,500
on it.

952
01:35:14,640 --> 01:35:14,880
Thank you.

953
01:35:15,620 --> 01:35:15,860
Thank you.

954
01:35:17,260 --> 01:35:19,720
So, I think I'll just open this up to public comment.

955
01:35:19,860 --> 01:35:20,960
We have a couple of slips here.

956
01:35:21,500 --> 01:35:22,780
I'll start with Sophia Whiting.

957
01:35:33,680 --> 01:35:34,760
Good evening and thank you.

958
01:35:36,400 --> 01:35:41,040
I'm encouraged that it sounds like the council has inclined to approve these transfers.

959
01:35:41,900 --> 01:35:44,020
and I would recommend that as well.

960
01:35:44,900 --> 01:35:51,240
It would allow for additional housing in half of May, which we all know is of her amount concern to the council in the city.

961
01:35:52,180 --> 01:36:04,000
This year so far before the approval of these transfers, not a single family residence has been approved to be built in all half of Mumbai, which is pretty astounding.

962
01:36:05,040 --> 01:36:11,220
But allowing these transfers would let that happen with projects that, you know, consider

963
01:36:11,220 --> 01:36:16,920
all of these things that the planning department has invested in this point system.

964
01:36:17,320 --> 01:36:25,020
So it would allow for people to build on their land, but in a way that's responsible and

965
01:36:25,020 --> 01:36:26,420
encourage as affordable housing.

966
01:36:27,040 --> 01:36:33,620
For my family, for the project at 22 Kelly, that would mean that my family can stay living

967
01:36:33,620 --> 01:36:40,000
on the coast on a property that's been in my family for decades and we otherwise wouldn't

968
01:36:40,000 --> 01:36:45,580
be able to afford to buy in half moon bay and in addition to that where we're currently

969
01:36:45,580 --> 01:36:49,880
renting would free up additional housing and our new project includes an affordable ADU.

970
01:36:50,520 --> 01:36:53,640
So I think this is a great recommendation and I hope the council follows it.

971
01:36:53,880 --> 01:36:54,300
Thank you.

972
01:36:56,400 --> 01:36:57,280
Amy Miller.

973
01:37:04,260 --> 01:37:05,000
We'll see.

974
01:37:07,340 --> 01:37:07,900
Hi.

975
01:37:08,280 --> 01:37:08,640
Good evening.

976
01:37:08,760 --> 01:37:09,480
My name's Amy Miller.

977
01:37:09,480 --> 01:37:11,960
I'm a property owner at 59 Guerrero.

978
01:37:12,800 --> 01:37:19,080
We have applied for a measure D allocation, and I just wanted to kind of give you guys

979
01:37:19,080 --> 01:37:20,700
an idea of what our plan is.

980
01:37:21,160 --> 01:37:26,800
My parents live in Santa Cruz, my dad is 80, my mom is 73, Ellen Willow.

981
01:37:27,660 --> 01:37:34,520
They've been co-siders their entire life, and our plan is to build an ADU where they're

982
01:37:34,520 --> 01:38:04,500
We're able to come and live with us, but still have their independence living on our property, but being a part of our family on a regular basis so that as they do age, they're in great health right now, thank goodness, but as they do age, and they need help, we're able to provide that they're able to be a part of our children's lives, and I just am really hoping and praying that you guys approve the reallocation so that we can bring my parents close so they're not making that drive up and down highway one, which is a little scary.

983
01:38:04,500 --> 01:38:07,320
Gary. Thank you guys. Appreciate the consideration.

984
01:38:09,240 --> 01:38:14,960
Thank you very much. I don't see any hands raised online. Is there anyone online who

985
01:38:14,960 --> 01:38:19,060
would like to discuss the measure D transfers? You can raise your hand and be unmuted.

986
01:38:21,180 --> 01:38:26,100
Seeing none, I'll bring it back to the council. For additional comment or motion?

987
01:38:29,980 --> 01:38:36,660
I think this is great. I'm a big supporter of the ADUs. There's been some years where

988
01:38:36,660 --> 01:38:42,960
he actually haven't used all our allocations up and I think having this transfer policy

989
01:38:42,960 --> 01:38:49,300
is great. So yeah, I'm ready. I will be voting yes.

990
01:38:52,760 --> 01:38:58,920
I'm ready to make a motion if we're ready. I make a motion to adopt a resolution approving

991
01:38:58,920 --> 01:39:05,400
the transfer of 19 of the remaining downtown based measure D allocations to be used for

992
01:39:05,400 --> 01:39:08,720
new dwelling units proposed in the outside downtown area.

993
01:39:09,120 --> 01:39:13,180
Prioritize according to the scoring within the measure D application checklist,

994
01:39:13,600 --> 01:39:18,320
and as shown within the exhibit A that's attached to the resolution attachment one.

995
01:39:18,940 --> 01:39:19,580
Second.

996
01:39:27,960 --> 01:39:29,180
Councilmember Brownstone?

997
01:39:29,520 --> 01:39:29,920
Yes.

998
01:39:30,260 --> 01:39:31,280
Councilmember Johnson?

999
01:39:31,800 --> 01:39:32,440
Yes.

1000
01:39:32,880 --> 01:39:34,100
Councilmember Nagan-Gast?

1001
01:39:34,400 --> 01:39:34,540
Yes.

1002
01:39:35,040 --> 01:39:35,660
Mayor Retic?

1003
01:39:35,660 --> 01:39:44,360
Yes, motion carries moving on to item 11a consideration of extending health benefits eligibility to elected officials

1004
01:40:23,860 --> 01:40:30,000
Read could even Madam error council members members of the public so I'm here presenting this item. This is council

1005
01:40:30,000 --> 01:40:31,480
health benefits

1006
01:40:32,380 --> 01:40:34,660
eligibility for elected officials

1007
01:40:36,640 --> 01:40:44,080
Quick background on this so currently the city provides medical insurance and other health benefits to our employees

1008
01:40:44,380 --> 01:40:49,380
as requirement by state law and in the business of being a good employer.

1009
01:40:50,840 --> 01:40:54,880
Currently, the benefits is that the city contributes up.

1010
01:40:55,320 --> 01:40:57,960
The city offers health plans through CalPERS.

1011
01:40:58,560 --> 01:41:04,700
CalPERS is another state agency that handles pension and

1012
01:41:04,700 --> 01:41:09,140
retirement for public employees, but also offers health plans.

1013
01:41:09,140 --> 01:41:19,100
They provide HMOs, PPOs, and is because most agencies go with them, they become at affordable rates.

1014
01:41:20,460 --> 01:41:38,980
The city contributes up to the Kaiser rates. Employees have their choice of a handful of plans, but the city contributes up to the Kaiser rate since Kaiser is a benchmark for as an HMO provider, but also decent health coverage.

1015
01:41:39,720 --> 01:41:58,500
The health benefits are not currently extended to council members, so about 10 months or so back in November or December, council was interested in exploring what that can look like if we can extend health benefits to council members.

1016
01:41:58,500 --> 01:42:08,400
We had our first presentation in February that had some information because the city was going through a labor negotiations.

1017
01:42:09,560 --> 01:42:17,680
Council of the city decided to hold off until they concluded to return back to this conversation.

1018
01:42:17,680 --> 01:42:23,620
Now that negotiations has ended, this item is back for Council of Discussion and hopefully

1019
01:42:23,620 --> 01:42:26,020
we're hoping to get some direction.

1020
01:42:26,620 --> 01:42:31,060
If Council wants to continue and proceed with this and what kind of framework Council

1021
01:42:31,060 --> 01:42:32,300
is interested in.

1022
01:42:35,880 --> 01:42:42,980
So as I mentioned, we offer CalPERS Health, which offers a lot of different plans between

1023
01:42:42,980 --> 01:42:44,740
HMO and PPO plans.

1024
01:42:44,740 --> 01:42:55,120
You can see a handful of them on the screen there, Kaiser, Anthem, Blue Cross, Michelle, the United, and then for our PPO plans, PERS Gold and Platinum.

1025
01:42:55,440 --> 01:43:04,240
So there's quite a bit of options available, and you can see the various rates between single, two part of your family.

1026
01:43:09,130 --> 01:43:17,950
Extending health coverage to council members or elected officials, one way to do it is just to extend the CalPERS offerings to council members.

1027
01:43:17,950 --> 01:43:20,870
This is the most common way to go.

1028
01:43:21,670 --> 01:43:26,110
Staff took a look at other agencies of what they do.

1029
01:43:26,490 --> 01:43:29,830
If they do offer medical insurance to elected officials.

1030
01:43:30,810 --> 01:43:34,230
And by far, the most common practices

1031
01:43:34,230 --> 01:43:38,150
to extend the CalPERS offerings.

1032
01:43:38,890 --> 01:43:41,670
There is a bit of a wrinkle though, as far as eligibility.

1033
01:43:42,490 --> 01:43:46,570
So CalPERS is famously restrictive and famously

1034
01:43:46,570 --> 01:43:55,110
particularly, the only elected officials that would be eligible are what they call non-PERS members.

1035
01:43:55,730 --> 01:44:02,090
So, if an elected official is currently employed with another CalPERS employer or

1036
01:44:02,090 --> 01:44:07,310
retired from another CalPERS employer, they wouldn't be able to enroll.

1037
01:44:08,190 --> 01:44:15,670
The basis for that is that CalPERS, that person is already potentially giving

1038
01:44:15,670 --> 01:44:19,670
health benefits or has that opportunity to get health benefits through their employer or their

1039
01:44:19,670 --> 01:44:27,990
previous employer. And in CalPERS eyes, they stick to their tie to that employer.

1040
01:44:30,530 --> 01:44:32,330
For elected

1041
01:44:32,330 --> 01:44:38,950
officials who aren't in CalPERS either previously or currently, they would be eligible and then their

1042
01:44:38,950 --> 01:44:41,570
eligibility will end at the end of the elected term.

1043
01:44:43,580 --> 01:44:46,180
Overall, if Council were to go this route,

1044
01:44:46,180 --> 01:44:52,280
CalPERS has an implementation, it would take about 90 days from assigned resolution.

1045
01:44:52,740 --> 01:44:56,460
So if the scenario or council wants to go this route,

1046
01:44:56,460 --> 01:44:59,880
We'll come back with a resolution next.

1047
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:07,460
This meeting and an estimated implementation time would be of January next year, January 20, 20, 27.

1048
01:45:13,510 --> 01:45:34,890
So as far as cost, there's a different amount of strategies between agencies, some agencies, just do the minimum, some agencies, this extend whatever they offer to the employees to their elected officials. The big limitation and the big thing to consider and hold to is that

1049
01:45:34,890 --> 01:45:41,770
But by law, the city cannot offer better benefits to elected officials than employees.

1050
01:45:42,630 --> 01:45:47,430
So the practice that we've seen with other agencies is just to extend the exact same

1051
01:45:47,790 --> 01:45:48,750
benefit structure.

1052
01:45:49,290 --> 01:45:58,530
So if agency provides 90% of the cost to the employees, 90% to elected officials to treat everyone the same.

1053
01:45:58,530 --> 01:46:03,550
And given that, there are a few options for council to

1054
01:46:04,610 --> 01:46:08,050
weigh in and discuss about how to do the cost structure.

1055
01:46:10,920 --> 01:46:12,520
I have three options for you.

1056
01:46:13,140 --> 01:46:15,240
Option one is just to pay the legal minimum,

1057
01:46:15,720 --> 01:46:17,340
and this is called a PIMC minimum,

1058
01:46:17,820 --> 01:46:23,020
and it is $162 a month per early for 2026.

1059
01:46:23,380 --> 01:46:25,600
It goes up a little bit with CIP every year,

1060
01:46:26,100 --> 01:46:27,720
but it's a very nominal increase.

1061
01:46:27,720 --> 01:46:34,160
As you can imagine, this is the cheapest option for the city, but the most expensive option

1062
01:46:34,160 --> 01:46:37,080
to an elected official who decides to enroll.

1063
01:46:38,120 --> 01:46:40,180
This will cost the city about 10K.

1064
01:46:41,820 --> 01:46:49,680
Another thing about this is that more likely than not, in order for their role to pay for

1065
01:46:49,680 --> 01:46:54,560
their portion, we would have to, the city would have to deduct from during the course of payroll.

1066
01:46:54,560 --> 01:46:58,580
and then also on top of that individually bill, the elected official.

1067
01:46:59,540 --> 01:47:02,820
So there's also administrative costs to this.

1068
01:47:07,370 --> 01:47:14,710
Option two is that the city can have the elected official contribute up to the stipend amount,

1069
01:47:15,050 --> 01:47:19,190
the $1,055 a month, and then the city pick up the remainder.

1070
01:47:19,990 --> 01:47:26,230
This is a more uncommon structure, but it's possible, and

1071
01:47:26,230 --> 01:47:36,190
This is really to get away from having to individually bill an elected official, but it's pretty uncommon to see and it may be an orthodox.

1072
01:47:40,420 --> 01:47:49,700
In option three, just to extend the exact same benefit that employees receive, which is the city contributes up to the Kaiser rate, and then there really covers the remainder.

1073
01:47:51,420 --> 01:47:59,080
This would be the soft recommendation to council as this keeps equitable between employees and council.

1074
01:47:59,080 --> 01:48:09,240
but it is most costly. So it would be about almost 200 K at the show a year and also to note that

1075
01:48:09,240 --> 01:48:12,980
this is probably the most common way to go with other agencies.

1076
01:48:18,230 --> 01:48:20,130
So this is just an example of

1077
01:48:20,130 --> 01:48:28,790
the breakdown using the Kaiser example. So that table on the first top half is what the cost would

1078
01:48:28,790 --> 01:48:33,190
would be for the early and the bottom half is what the cost would be for the city.

1079
01:48:34,110 --> 01:48:40,850
So in option one, the early for a family would pay about 2800 a month while the city only

1080
01:48:40,850 --> 01:48:42,110
picks up about 160.

1081
01:48:44,290 --> 01:48:58,310
Option two, the early picks up up to their stipend and then picks up the remainder and the city

1082
01:48:58,310 --> 01:49:01,730
would pay up essentially all of it if they take Kaiser.

1083
01:49:03,270 --> 01:49:07,570
And if they, in this, they're really chose a different plan that was more than Kaiser

1084
01:49:07,570 --> 01:49:09,590
than they would pay, they would pick up the difference.

1085
01:49:11,070 --> 01:49:17,370
And you can see on the right-hand side, the annual city cost between the options ranging from 10K, a year.

1086
01:49:18,890 --> 01:49:22,250
And an option three is up is one into the 82K year.

1087
01:49:22,830 --> 01:49:27,850
It is important to note that these are estimates because not all council members

1088
01:49:27,850 --> 01:49:34,630
would have, we're all maybe some, maybe not, so these really are estimates, but I

1089
01:49:34,630 --> 01:49:39,370
will say that the higher end the cap would be around 180 for option three.

1090
01:49:39,830 --> 01:49:40,450
Quick question.

1091
01:49:41,370 --> 01:49:47,430
The annual city costs, looking at option three, is that for like all five council

1092
01:49:47,430 --> 01:49:47,750
members?

1093
01:49:48,070 --> 01:49:52,030
All five council members, families, so it's really the, yeah.

1094
01:49:52,710 --> 01:49:53,070
One

1095
01:50:00,080 --> 01:50:01,960
other thing to think about is dental and vision.

1096
01:50:01,960 --> 01:50:10,120
The city also has the opportunity to include, provide dental and visual vision insurance.

1097
01:50:10,940 --> 01:50:15,320
Currently, the city pays 100% of dental and vision.

1098
01:50:16,880 --> 01:50:22,600
For this one, less restrictive, all council members would be eligible.

1099
01:50:23,480 --> 01:50:29,040
And the recommendation there, if council were to go, this will include this just to use our existing provider.

1100
01:50:29,040 --> 01:50:35,560
and as of yesterday we were able to confirm that the rates for employees would be the same rates for elected officials.

1101
01:50:38,680 --> 01:50:48,200
These are the general rates depending on the enrollment level, so family, which is here listed as employee and two or more dependents,

1102
01:50:48,640 --> 01:50:52,680
then tells about $220 a month while all vision is about $30 a month.

1103
01:50:53,620 --> 01:51:00,760
And as I mentioned city would pick up all the costs and if this was extended to council, this is about 15k a year.

1104
01:51:00,760 --> 01:51:01,700
So

1105
01:51:05,000 --> 01:51:13,600
the policy questions that I have for council tonight is should the city extend medical benefits to elected officials and if so how much should it contribute?

1106
01:51:14,860 --> 01:51:21,560
And also policy question two should the city extend dental and vision benefits to elected officials?

1107
01:51:24,260 --> 01:51:33,040
And the recommendation is to receive information of a right direction regarding whether under what framework health benefits eligibility should be extended to elected officials.

1108
01:51:33,040 --> 01:51:35,680
With that, I'll, I'm happy to take any questions.

1109
01:51:40,440 --> 01:51:41,200
Questions for staff?

1110
01:51:44,930 --> 01:51:45,430
Councilmember Johnson?

1111
01:51:49,160 --> 01:51:49,760
Anybody else?

1112
01:51:51,400 --> 01:51:52,920
I have no speaker slips.

1113
01:51:53,100 --> 01:51:55,380
Is there anyone in the audience who would like to comment on this item?

1114
01:51:56,760 --> 01:52:04,360
Is there anybody online who would like to comment on the item of consideration of extending health benefit eligibility to elected officials?

1115
01:52:06,480 --> 01:52:08,180
Seeing none, I'll bring it back to council.

1116
01:52:09,840 --> 01:52:13,020
Personally, I'm already a per's member through the state, so.

1117
01:52:13,020 --> 01:52:16,280
So I wouldn't be taking advantage of it myself.

1118
01:52:20,380 --> 01:52:27,260
And I'm a CalPERS too, but I also notice just speaking for myself and nobody else on the council.

1119
01:52:27,960 --> 01:52:33,160
But the Medicare costs are different, a lot less.

1120
01:52:33,800 --> 01:52:41,800
So I know you showed some scenarios there, but I have the CalPERS numbers here and

1121
01:52:41,800 --> 01:52:47,960
And that can be, you're just a subscriber less than $500 with the Kaiser.

1122
01:52:48,380 --> 01:52:57,140
So that changes costs dramatically depending on what each of us that are unique.

1123
01:52:58,360 --> 01:53:06,340
But as a personally, I'd like to also include the dental and vision if we're going to include that.

1124
01:53:06,340 --> 01:53:15,420
But I just, I kind of want to keep it as a, you know, our stipend, what is it, 9-something

1125
01:53:15,420 --> 01:53:18,900
plus 100, so is that that 1055, I see?

1126
01:53:19,460 --> 01:53:28,220
So whatever we would, if we're, what will we choose, we could choose up to 1000 and make

1127
01:53:28,220 --> 01:53:33,620
costs more is what you're saying, and this city would cover the difference of, say, a family

1128
01:53:33,620 --> 01:53:34,660
plan for somebody.

1129
01:53:34,660 --> 01:53:45,200
Yes, so that's option two were then really would contribute up to ten fifty five which is the stipend and then the city would pick up the remainder.

1130
01:53:46,860 --> 01:53:56,740
And then how would because vision and dental separate from the CalPERS health.

1131
01:53:56,740 --> 01:54:04,060
So that's a separate I saw you had met life is that VSP for vision or just met life to vision and didn't I thought met life

1132
01:54:04,060 --> 01:54:07,620
Maybe it was only dental we do dental and vision. Oh, so

1133
01:54:08,180 --> 01:54:13,980
Because typically you see VSP doing all the vision on it, but yeah, okay

1134
01:54:15,020 --> 01:54:19,760
I'm I'm I would be interested just because I'm fully covered myself

1135
01:54:20,780 --> 01:54:26,640
with CalPERS that if we could also include vision and dental in this I

1136
01:54:26,740 --> 01:54:30,980
I would be interested if the council is 1G and go that way.

1137
01:54:31,760 --> 01:54:33,400
I'm more like the mayor.

1138
01:54:33,580 --> 01:54:41,640
I'm covered currently with medical, but and I do another city.

1139
01:54:43,720 --> 01:54:55,440
So the dental envision, someone could, that could be used regardless if you're getting medical

1140
01:54:55,440 --> 01:55:01,940
separately. That's correct. They can have one other coverage. Yeah. You can also. Okay.

1141
01:55:02,800 --> 01:55:11,160
So are we making this decision as if it was applying to us or other people who might

1142
01:55:11,160 --> 01:55:19,730
not have any health insurance who are on council or very little because we I'm not trying

1143
01:55:19,730 --> 01:55:25,290
to see this through my own eyes. Do you know what I mean? It's not having coverage. I'm thinking

1144
01:55:25,290 --> 01:55:34,300
about future council members, et cetera, who also do the different circumstances in their

1145
01:55:34,300 --> 01:55:39,240
life may have had coverage that lose it, et cetera, and you know how good sense of

1146
01:55:39,240 --> 01:55:47,340
Cobra can get, you know, someone's had it, and then, so that's where I'm trying to ask

1147
01:55:47,340 --> 01:55:52,560
all of us how we, you know, thinking about this, right, in terms of, and then what would

1148
01:55:52,560 --> 01:55:56,420
We, and I like, I think a lot of other cities do provide these.

1149
01:55:57,000 --> 01:56:00,380
I think you said option three was typical of many of the other cities.

1150
01:56:05,180 --> 01:56:08,300
So yeah, that's what I'm just kind of wondering using

1151
01:56:11,020 --> 01:56:12,200
that lens.

1152
01:56:16,440 --> 01:56:18,340
Councilmember Johnson, you were interested in this item?

1153
01:56:18,640 --> 01:56:26,260
Yeah, I was, I told, I was having a discussion with Ray Mueller in the beginning when he asked,

1154
01:56:26,460 --> 01:56:29,100
you were running for council and I said, yes, and I gave him.

1155
01:56:29,100 --> 01:56:35,380
Any kind of want to do this background and ask me what do you do and all this stuff and I gave my game plan

1156
01:56:35,380 --> 01:56:41,340
Of what I'm doing and I've also talking about you know at some point I need to retired and sell the shop

1157
01:56:41,340 --> 01:56:44,060
It's not easy for me because we've been doing it for 60 years

1158
01:56:44,060 --> 01:56:48,440
And it's not easy business to run because I can't find anybody to help and support me

1159
01:56:49,500 --> 01:56:49,940
so

1160
01:56:50,540 --> 01:56:51,640
With that said

1161
01:56:52,440 --> 01:56:55,820
Medical was always a big issue for me and he said

1162
01:56:55,820 --> 01:56:59,400
and council members are supposed to be able to buy medical.

1163
01:56:59,720 --> 01:57:03,540
That's why I brought this forward and I didn't know that so I mean we didn't know it.

1164
01:57:03,720 --> 01:57:08,120
I don't think anybody knew it here but then as we're digging deeper we're finding out yes they do.

1165
01:57:08,880 --> 01:57:12,140
And even our sister sitting in Pacific is doing it and even Belmont is doing it.

1166
01:57:12,240 --> 01:57:15,600
So I didn't know all this so I'm learning with you guys.

1167
01:57:15,980 --> 01:57:21,040
I feel a little kind of funny because I won't have medical at the probably by January.

1168
01:57:21,860 --> 01:57:24,860
It's ironic because I'm taking notes here January 2027.

1169
01:57:24,860 --> 01:57:29,100
So that's going to be an issue for me, but that's not about me.

1170
01:57:29,300 --> 01:57:36,440
I'm looking at the fact that this is a load on our city, but the fact remains is there's other cities that do this.

1171
01:57:36,920 --> 01:57:46,800
And I thought that was interesting that we are doing something that other cities are doing to provide medical for not one, but all council members if needed.

1172
01:57:47,500 --> 01:57:52,520
Now if we look at this in a lens that we're saying, does everybody need it?

1173
01:57:52,520 --> 01:57:55,380
It probably not, but there might be somebody that will.

1174
01:57:55,660 --> 01:58:00,100
So we have a plan in place for somebody that would need to take care of their family.

1175
01:58:00,860 --> 01:58:06,580
That's on council, that's putting in their time and spending weekends and evenings and stuff.

1176
01:58:07,260 --> 01:58:15,220
And also it's brought up in this report, this is something that you've also brought up like

1177
01:58:18,170 --> 01:58:21,830
there's certain reasons of why we should do it.

1178
01:58:21,830 --> 01:58:25,570
And it's in your opening statement, I can't, all here it is.

1179
01:58:26,970 --> 01:58:36,110
Offering health benefits may widen the pool of people who realistically serve, particularly self-employed people, or those without other

1180
01:58:36,110 --> 01:58:38,090
coverages, that will be me in January.

1181
01:58:38,730 --> 01:58:43,470
So it's not something I can control, but it'd be a good thing if I could have that option.

1182
01:58:44,950 --> 01:58:49,510
And basically this is what we're doing, we're taking care of our people that are actually working for our city, and

1183
01:58:49,510 --> 01:58:52,050
and we're taking care of people in our city.

1184
01:58:52,550 --> 01:58:54,630
So I'm looking at taking care of all people

1185
01:58:55,370 --> 01:58:57,370
and that's a vehicle that we can do it.

1186
01:59:00,130 --> 01:59:03,190
It's a hard work being an elected official, you know?

1187
01:59:05,650 --> 01:59:07,750
I actually would have no problem

1188
01:59:08,530 --> 01:59:12,330
supporting a policy of option three plus vision and dental

1189
01:59:12,810 --> 01:59:16,510
for, you know, is a menu option for people who need it.

1190
01:59:16,510 --> 01:59:24,770
And I think it makes sense, I know a lot of cities do it, so I would support that.

1191
01:59:30,430 --> 01:59:31,790
Yeah, I agree with option three.

1192
01:59:33,670 --> 01:59:41,450
And of course, remembering, well, no matter what, having the ability to get dental and vision.

1193
01:59:43,490 --> 01:59:49,430
I've learned as I've had different plans, not all dental plans are created equal at all.

1194
01:59:49,430 --> 01:59:53,920
And that life, I think, was actually one of

1195
01:59:56,130 --> 01:59:59,970
the major providers, a lot of dentists don't even want to use anymore because they work.

1196
02:00:01,320 --> 02:00:11,400
Right, they will necessarily get the right reimbursements, but that's why sometimes you have to shop around. But anyway, and I like the idea of offering option three.

1197
02:00:20,440 --> 02:00:37,200
You know, I want what we think is fair. And I like the idea if it can make the pool of potential elected bigger. You know, it's so hard, you know, to become, to commit to being elected.

1198
02:00:37,200 --> 02:00:45,060
And I'd hate for something that the city could provide would hold somebody back from trying to do that.

1199
02:00:45,520 --> 02:00:55,120
So if that's something that would provide somebody else, again, I'm already covered through CalPERS and

1200
02:00:55,120 --> 02:01:02,400
I wouldn't necessarily be using this particular plan but I think if we could have it available and

1201
02:01:02,400 --> 02:01:13,560
It's fair for all of us, and whoever all of us are even in the future, and it keeps with what the city's policies are.

1202
02:01:17,380 --> 02:01:21,200
So I'm doing support for option three plus vision and dental.

1203
02:01:22,480 --> 02:01:26,160
To have a policy in place, but I was who would like to take advantage of it.

1204
02:01:26,180 --> 02:01:26,240
Yeah.

1205
02:01:27,620 --> 02:01:30,660
So tonight was just seeking some feedback in direction.

1206
02:01:30,660 --> 02:01:38,580
I think it's pretty clear and will be preparing consent item for the September 15th agenda to move this forward.

1207
02:01:39,520 --> 02:01:45,320
And I think it's an exciting development for our community, and I think it will create more opportunities for

1208
02:01:45,320 --> 02:01:54,740
other people to run for office in the future that I don't think it's ever less work than you expect it to be.

1209
02:01:54,740 --> 02:01:59,480
I think you'd all agree, especially in a community like this.

1210
02:01:59,580 --> 02:02:01,040
This is a highly engaged community.

1211
02:02:01,540 --> 02:02:05,560
We're small town, but my experience working with each of you

1212
02:02:05,560 --> 02:02:07,680
and working with councils over the last nine years.

1213
02:02:08,780 --> 02:02:09,900
You're putting a lot of hours in,

1214
02:02:10,400 --> 02:02:13,060
and I think this is an opportunity to recognize that.

1215
02:02:13,380 --> 02:02:14,100
So this is exciting.

1216
02:02:15,240 --> 02:02:18,880
Thank you for doing the staff work on this and appreciate it.

1217
02:02:20,360 --> 02:02:20,840
Okay.

1218
02:02:22,420 --> 02:02:24,260
So we're moving on to item 11b,

1219
02:02:24,260 --> 02:02:28,600
which is the sanitary sewer system summary and approval of professional services.

1220
02:02:29,060 --> 02:02:29,540
Good

1221
02:02:41,820 --> 02:02:43,620
evening Madam Mayor, members of the council.

1222
02:02:44,020 --> 02:02:47,220
I am Dale Lita, your interim public works director and city engineer.

1223
02:02:48,180 --> 02:03:06,460
Tonight I'm presenting this item which is to give a summary of some of the past work we've done on our sewer system with a little conditions overview as well as present a professional service agreement for you to consider for engineering support services associated with our sewer system.

1224
02:03:09,020 --> 02:03:12,220
First, you know, why is this coming to Council now?

1225
02:03:13,800 --> 02:03:18,080
You know, we've had a lot of change over and staff over the years, and over that time

1226
02:03:18,080 --> 02:03:22,320
as you might be aware, we've spent a lot of money on different types of sewer investigation

1227
02:03:22,320 --> 02:03:22,780
work.

1228
02:03:22,920 --> 02:03:26,440
We've spent a lot of energy and understanding our sewer system.

1229
02:03:26,900 --> 02:03:32,160
Some of these documents have been organized and consolidated, but some are kind of floating

1230
02:03:32,160 --> 02:03:32,940
out in the ether.

1231
02:03:32,940 --> 02:03:39,760
And it's a great opportunity for us to kind of get more organized and put these things together in the last couple of years

1232
02:03:39,760 --> 02:03:43,500
We've made better use of our city's GIS system. So that's a great

1233
02:03:44,320 --> 02:03:50,320
tool for us to organize a lot of this data. And it's just it's a good opportunity to kind of put these things together

1234
02:03:51,740 --> 02:03:57,720
Also, we're as one of the other items tonight on consent was we're getting started on our sewer rate study

1235
02:03:57,720 --> 02:04:02,200
Which we're expecting to present to Council on April of next year roughly

1236
02:04:02,200 --> 02:04:09,520
Finally, why this is important is because as part of this work that we're doing consolidating

1237
02:04:09,520 --> 02:04:16,860
our understanding of our sewer system and developing a list of projects for repairs

1238
02:04:16,860 --> 02:04:22,640
or other investigation that we might need over the next five years, we can quantify those

1239
02:04:22,640 --> 02:04:25,000
costs and incorporate those into the rate study.

1240
02:04:25,240 --> 02:04:29,540
So it'll set us up for the next five years and additional improvements that we want to

1241
02:04:29,540 --> 02:04:30,260
do to our system.

1242
02:04:30,260 --> 02:04:31,160
So

1243
02:04:34,650 --> 02:04:37,770
I'm going to dive into kind of some of these different areas we've looked at in the

1244
02:04:37,770 --> 02:04:40,450
past and just give a brief overview, happy to answer questions.

1245
02:04:41,090 --> 02:04:43,650
So the first is our CCTV that we've completed.

1246
02:04:43,870 --> 02:04:49,870
So our closed circuit television, this is literally pushing a camera down sewer mains to

1247
02:04:49,870 --> 02:04:52,570
explore and see what the condition of those pipes are.

1248
02:04:53,410 --> 02:04:56,590
I'm happy to report over the last 12 years.

1249
02:04:56,970 --> 02:05:01,830
We've cameraed something like 80% of all of our sewer mains, which was a surprise to me.

1250
02:05:01,830 --> 02:05:04,730
I do not know we had completely that much.

1251
02:05:05,790 --> 02:05:11,750
You can see some of the color coding you see here, the orange pipes are pipes that were

1252
02:05:11,750 --> 02:05:18,150
camera back in the early 2010s, so between 2011 and 2013.

1253
02:05:19,410 --> 02:05:23,630
Those are getting close to kind of their shelf life where we're going to want to start going

1254
02:05:23,630 --> 02:05:29,170
in and cameraing those pipes again to see if the condition has changed if we have not done

1255
02:05:29,170 --> 02:05:29,650
repair work.

1256
02:05:29,650 --> 02:05:37,410
So you can see, you know, quite a bit of work done, probably, well, there's still quite a bit of work to do over the next five years.

1257
02:05:37,850 --> 02:05:44,390
And areas that you see in black, we have not camera those pipes ever as far as our records indicate so.

1258
02:05:45,470 --> 02:05:49,090
But it's encouraging to see the extent that we do have records for.

1259
02:05:49,090 --> 02:05:49,150
were.

1260
02:05:51,430 --> 02:05:55,930
Along with that carrying, there's a national standard that we use to assess the

1261
02:05:55,930 --> 02:06:02,190
condition of our sewer pipes, and we get a structural defect rating, one through five.

1262
02:06:02,690 --> 02:06:09,310
And so when you think about like a level one defect, that's like a minor blemish inside

1263
02:06:09,310 --> 02:06:15,390
a pipe. The ones we really care about are fours and fives. These are like noticeable large

1264
02:06:15,390 --> 02:06:21,050
cracks in the pipes or broken pipe that's been deflected and you could actually see dirt or soil

1265
02:06:21,570 --> 02:06:27,990
kind of running through that pipe and so this assessment is based on those CCTV

1266
02:06:29,610 --> 02:06:35,830
camera footage from previously so the areas in black your first kind of inclination is that we

1267
02:06:35,830 --> 02:06:40,450
don't have any issues with sewer but if we haven't camera them in the past we wouldn't know that

1268
02:06:40,450 --> 02:06:41,570
that there are issues with those.

1269
02:06:42,730 --> 02:06:45,990
I do want to point you towards our lead-up park area,

1270
02:06:45,990 --> 02:06:49,670
which you can see actually looks pretty good and overall.

1271
02:06:49,950 --> 02:06:53,630
There's not a whole lot of red or orange there.

1272
02:06:54,030 --> 02:06:55,670
I just want to kind of point that out

1273
02:06:55,670 --> 02:06:58,590
and you'll see why a little bit later in my presentation.

1274
02:07:02,070 --> 02:07:04,950
In addition to the CCTV and pipe assessments,

1275
02:07:05,170 --> 02:07:08,590
we've also invest a lot of time modeling our sewer system.

1276
02:07:08,590 --> 02:07:16,190
This includes past metering and basically building a hydraulic model to run simulations

1277
02:07:16,190 --> 02:07:20,610
of different storm events and see how different storms respond and where we have capacity

1278
02:07:20,610 --> 02:07:21,730
issues in our system.

1279
02:07:22,390 --> 02:07:29,370
So the standard we use in our 2025 master plan is a 10-year storm and what that does to our

1280
02:07:29,370 --> 02:07:30,750
sewer system where we have issues.

1281
02:07:31,870 --> 02:07:36,710
And there's really three kind of pinch points that we see getting close to the sandplant

1282
02:07:36,710 --> 02:07:45,310
right here. There's a primary main that runs from Belville Avenue to the north through

1283
02:07:45,310 --> 02:07:50,970
easements and through farmland where that gets to Befkunia Road. That line is under size

1284
02:07:50,970 --> 02:07:58,530
and causes backups further upstream. There's also a main on Grand Avenue which is also

1285
02:07:58,530 --> 02:08:02,890
under size and I would point that one out. That one is important because it also went

1286
02:08:02,890 --> 02:08:08,830
tie into the Podesta tract on the east side of the highway, so addressing that issue is

1287
02:08:08,830 --> 02:08:13,950
also kind of significant as related to potential development of that site.

1288
02:08:14,770 --> 02:08:21,690
The third area, over by the Keyho, Casa del Mar neighborhood, is a little bit, there's

1289
02:08:21,690 --> 02:08:26,910
an interesting restriction there, we're not really sure what's causing it, there's, well,

1290
02:08:26,910 --> 02:08:33,950
Well, the model indicated, the model that this was run on was based on some information

1291
02:08:33,950 --> 02:08:38,470
about how some of the pipes are connected in that area and we've done some, we've found

1292
02:08:38,470 --> 02:08:44,650
some additional information as well data that will actually impact that so we need to spend

1293
02:08:44,650 --> 02:08:47,990
a little bit more time investigating that and see if there really is a capacity issue

1294
02:08:47,990 --> 02:08:55,810
there or not and so that would be part of this work that we're planning to do later

1295
02:08:55,810 --> 02:09:03,450
this year. Next, I want to talk about our I and I study which we completed over the 25-26 winter.

1296
02:09:04,350 --> 02:09:10,470
First, next, what is I and I? So I and I were referring to inflow and infiltration. In flow,

1297
02:09:10,610 --> 02:09:17,330
you can think of as illicit or illegal storm drain connections into our sewer system. So this

1298
02:09:17,330 --> 02:09:23,310
would be like tying in a downspout or like a crawl space or foundation pump system into the sewer

1299
02:09:23,310 --> 02:09:25,410
system, which we do not allow.

1300
02:09:26,010 --> 02:09:31,010
The other is infiltration that would be like cracks in either manholes or in sewer pipes,

1301
02:09:32,030 --> 02:09:36,950
which allows storm water to get into the sewer system through rising ground water.

1302
02:09:37,170 --> 02:09:42,430
So as ground water levels rise, we get more storm water into the sewer system.

1303
02:09:42,570 --> 02:09:48,950
So why is that important because I pointed out the capacity issues earlier that's really

1304
02:09:48,950 --> 02:09:54,950
only an issue during storm events where we see dramatic increases in flow and we're

1305
02:09:54,950 --> 02:09:59,730
also treating all that storm water that gets into our sewer system by a SAMS estimates

1306
02:09:59,730 --> 02:10:06,990
roughly I think 17% or 18% of all of the water treated at the SAMS plant is storm water

1307
02:10:06,990 --> 02:10:09,370
getting in through either infiltration or inflow.

1308
02:10:09,610 --> 02:10:12,650
So a significant price tag associated with that water.

1309
02:10:13,810 --> 02:10:18,730
When we, for the study we did last year, we hired RH Boarding to help us with this.

1310
02:10:18,990 --> 02:10:26,070
And they use kind of a newer novel approach to how they do their infiltration monitoring.

1311
02:10:26,350 --> 02:10:31,210
So the conventional way would be to set a meter in the stream flow at the bottom of a manhole,

1312
02:10:31,210 --> 02:10:34,830
which can be very expensive because you need confined space training.

1313
02:10:35,110 --> 02:10:37,870
You need someone, someone needs to climb down there and install it.

1314
02:10:38,410 --> 02:10:40,410
And they require more maintenance and more equipment.

1315
02:10:41,130 --> 02:10:46,430
So, what AH Board does is we hired them and they would go in and they would scan the

1316
02:10:46,430 --> 02:10:51,790
manhole with light R, and so we actually get this really high resolution model to see

1317
02:10:51,790 --> 02:10:56,650
if there's any other defects, and we actually found a one elicit connection through kind of

1318
02:10:56,650 --> 02:11:00,970
this scanning process, you could see other issues with your manholes as part of it, and they

1319
02:11:00,970 --> 02:11:07,750
could take that model and install a meter near the surface and get an approximation for the

1320
02:11:07,750 --> 02:11:10,490
flow through the system based on the water level,

1321
02:11:10,810 --> 02:11:12,670
through some fancy engineering math.

1322
02:11:13,330 --> 02:11:16,090
So this is a different way of assessing flows.

1323
02:11:16,750 --> 02:11:19,250
You can't compare, it's not an apples-to-apples comparison

1324
02:11:19,250 --> 02:11:23,050
to inflow metering, but it's very helpful

1325
02:11:23,050 --> 02:11:26,330
and it's roughly a quarter of the cost of inflow metering.

1326
02:11:26,510 --> 02:11:29,210
So it's another tool in the tool belt.

1327
02:11:31,350 --> 02:11:33,750
And when those meters are installed,

1328
02:11:33,970 --> 02:11:36,890
you can see these very distinct changes in flow patterns

1329
02:11:36,890 --> 02:11:40,710
that you can pick out the inflow from the infiltration.

1330
02:11:40,910 --> 02:11:44,190
So, inflow, which is kind of a direct storm drain connection,

1331
02:11:45,890 --> 02:11:50,050
that really occurs like immediately around a rain event.

1332
02:11:50,270 --> 02:11:53,190
And so, we're measuring flows in the manhole at the same time

1333
02:11:53,190 --> 02:11:55,170
they're capturing rainfall data.

1334
02:11:55,470 --> 02:11:59,990
And so, when you see a dramatic spike in flow right around us,

1335
02:12:00,170 --> 02:12:03,990
a storm event that's generally considered inflow.

1336
02:12:03,990 --> 02:12:10,530
What you'll see over time, as we get successive storms, you'll see the base flow that goes

1337
02:12:10,530 --> 02:12:12,790
up and down and the manhole will gradually increase.

1338
02:12:13,210 --> 02:12:18,250
And that is an indication of groundwater or infiltration getting into the system.

1339
02:12:21,110 --> 02:12:27,750
We used, we monitored seven subbasins last winter and we picked these locations strategically

1340
02:12:28,370 --> 02:12:33,850
to try and isolate different kind of main trunk lines or main areas going into our, into

1341
02:12:33,850 --> 02:12:36,710
to our sewer system and into the sand plants.

1342
02:12:37,810 --> 02:12:41,970
And the results came back, our lead-up park,

1343
02:12:42,170 --> 02:12:45,410
the area around our lead-up park in South Achilles Avenue

1344
02:12:45,410 --> 02:12:48,990
was really our most significant contribution of I and I flow.

1345
02:12:49,190 --> 02:12:51,670
Roughly half of all the I and I flow that we saw

1346
02:12:52,350 --> 02:12:53,570
came from our lead-up park.

1347
02:12:54,590 --> 02:12:56,010
So very significant amount.

1348
02:12:56,830 --> 02:13:00,370
And that neighborhood has a lot of backyard sewer mains,

1349
02:13:00,810 --> 02:13:01,890
which are not in the street.

1350
02:13:01,890 --> 02:13:04,650
they're hard for the city to access, they're not visible.

1351
02:13:06,370 --> 02:13:10,690
Going back to the data I was pointing to earlier about

1352
02:13:10,690 --> 02:13:14,070
just the condition of the Arleeda Park system.

1353
02:13:16,150 --> 02:13:20,550
It shows a very high amount of infiltration of ground water

1354
02:13:20,550 --> 02:13:21,530
getting into the system.

1355
02:13:22,310 --> 02:13:25,250
But as far as we can tell, not a lot of pipe defects

1356
02:13:25,250 --> 02:13:27,470
that would lead you to that suspicion.

1357
02:13:28,570 --> 02:13:39,330
This actually aligns really well with other data that we've heard anecdotally that there are a lot of cross-based drains and a lot of pumps tied into those sewer mains.

1358
02:13:40,150 --> 02:13:46,110
And that would be aligned as infiltration because those pumps are picking up groundwater and pumping it into the system.

1359
02:13:46,230 --> 02:13:51,250
So you would see behavior much more like from infiltration from pipe defects.

1360
02:13:51,330 --> 02:13:56,570
Also just being on the west side of the highway closer to the ocean, just having higher groundwater could be it.

1361
02:13:56,570 --> 02:13:57,610
The result.

1362
02:13:57,950 --> 02:14:03,410
Yes, so Arleeda Park I guess is the ground water is pretty high because we're kind of perched on that.

1363
02:14:03,590 --> 02:14:03,690
Right.

1364
02:14:04,030 --> 02:14:10,790
Mirror Monty's terrace, which is a granitic rock underneath, so there's not a lot of soil.

1365
02:14:12,630 --> 02:14:18,410
So that's why, I guess in my situation, I live in Arleeda Park, and

1366
02:14:18,410 --> 02:14:23,690
these heavy atmospheric rivers on top of the high ground water level, I got a problem.

1367
02:14:23,690 --> 02:14:27,750
So, I don't know how we, yeah, what to do.

1368
02:14:28,050 --> 02:14:31,090
It's also an issue where you don't have storm drainage in the street, right?

1369
02:14:31,210 --> 02:14:35,690
And a lot of our neighborhoods lack storm drains or storm drains that are deep enough for

1370
02:14:35,690 --> 02:14:38,510
someone to tie in from, say, a crawl space drain on their site.

1371
02:14:38,670 --> 02:14:43,190
And so, you know, that encourages people to make a list of connections into the sewer system,

1372
02:14:43,190 --> 02:14:44,730
which is naturally going to be deeper.

1373
02:14:51,050 --> 02:14:59,810
So, we have a lot of interesting data to mull through with the infiltration study we did last winter as well as kind of all this past historical work.

1374
02:15:00,110 --> 02:15:29,830
We'd really like to bring VW Housing and Associates in to help us sort through this and establish a list of priority projects, repairs, and additional investigation if we're going to do additional infiltration, or I and I study, additional camera work, et cetera. So, VW Housing has been supporting the city and the development and management of our sewer program for a little over a decade now. Actually, a lot of this data that I'm presenting came through a consolidated effort from their office.

1375
02:15:29,830 --> 02:15:35,130
I guess they've been a great team to work with and considering our schedule and the timing

1376
02:15:35,130 --> 02:15:40,410
to get this work underway and completed so that it's ready to integrate into our rate

1377
02:15:40,410 --> 02:15:40,850
study.

1378
02:15:41,010 --> 02:15:44,310
We think they're really the only suitable candidate to support this work.

1379
02:15:45,390 --> 02:15:46,990
I guess the other follow-up question.

1380
02:15:47,510 --> 02:15:47,590
Yes.

1381
02:15:49,650 --> 02:15:56,430
So are we going to look at like the storm water issue and the sewer issue like together?

1382
02:15:56,430 --> 02:16:05,510
Are there some solutions that require us to actually address storm water as opposed to pipes and all that sort of thing?

1383
02:16:07,190 --> 02:16:18,810
I'm guessing we can't do storm water with the sewer fees, but I'm just wondering if there's fixes that might deal with both sides of the problem.

1384
02:16:18,810 --> 02:16:28,530
So there's, I mean there are, I mean where we have issues with inflow where people are tied in kind of a legally to a sewer system.

1385
02:16:29,130 --> 02:16:34,550
If we don't have storm drain adequately for them to tie into, then that's a real issue.

1386
02:16:34,930 --> 02:16:46,190
As far as other areas where you can get inflow are related to where we have flooding in streets and you have manholes.

1387
02:16:46,190 --> 02:16:51,430
I think Belville is an instance where this happens, which we learn through our study.

1388
02:16:52,170 --> 02:16:55,410
There's a lot, there's not a good drainage system or good slope in the street.

1389
02:16:56,190 --> 02:16:59,710
There's a couple of manholes out there that get ponding.

1390
02:16:59,810 --> 02:17:04,470
We get three to four inches of water after heavy storms, roughly four acres drains to.

1391
02:17:05,190 --> 02:17:11,830
And we see these interesting incidents where we get a spike in flow from that meter well after a storm event.

1392
02:17:11,830 --> 02:17:36,010
And what we learned is somebody's going out and popping manhole leads to drain the street because there's no other way to get water out and they're protecting their property and it's, hey, get that water out and we know what happens elsewhere in the city, but yes, looking at issues like that and what kind of storm drain improvements we could do to help facilitate keeping sewer and storm water separate that's a big part of it.

1393
02:17:41,000 --> 02:17:43,900
And that's that concludes my presentation.

1394
02:17:43,900 --> 02:17:45,900
I'm happy to answer any other questions.

1395
02:17:47,060 --> 02:17:50,380
Another one. So we had talked about issues around the high school.

1396
02:17:50,960 --> 02:17:55,860
Is that is that part of the, would that be part of the issue around the pedestrian property as well?

1397
02:17:56,880 --> 02:18:02,660
I forget what the problem wasn't the high school, but there was some I and I going on there and we didn't know if.

1398
02:18:03,360 --> 02:18:06,360
Yes, there was there was previously a concern with that.

1399
02:18:06,360 --> 02:18:12,760
And we actually did some work which appeared to help improve that condition, so we didn't

1400
02:18:12,760 --> 02:18:16,420
really see strong evidence of that with I and I study, we did this last winter.

1401
02:18:17,420 --> 02:18:17,900
Okay.

1402
02:18:19,960 --> 02:18:21,200
Anybody else with questions?

1403
02:18:24,830 --> 02:18:25,630
That's one question.

1404
02:18:25,870 --> 02:18:31,050
This concept was kind of cool, what you explained and how these guys are doing, but you were

1405
02:18:31,050 --> 02:18:35,970
talked about previously doing the smoke testing, is that kind of the same thing that you're

1406
02:18:35,970 --> 02:18:39,450
are you looking for leaks and you're looking for volume and flow?

1407
02:18:40,510 --> 02:18:43,050
Yeah, so smoke testing is one of the ways we can,

1408
02:18:43,150 --> 02:18:45,890
it's one of the tools we can use to go about investigating

1409
02:18:45,890 --> 02:18:47,850
inflow illicit connections.

1410
02:18:48,230 --> 02:18:50,210
And what you do is you go into,

1411
02:18:51,410 --> 02:18:54,490
you find an area where you think you have a lot of inflow

1412
02:18:54,490 --> 02:18:58,230
legal connections and you isolate a section of your sewer system

1413
02:18:58,750 --> 02:19:01,890
and you pump smoke or fog into the sewer man.

1414
02:19:01,890 --> 02:19:11,250
And what happens is that runs up through the main, and it runs into sewer laterals on private property, and it comes out through openings.

1415
02:19:11,550 --> 02:19:19,350
Now, your sewer system should not have any openings anywhere in the system, as you should have traps on all of your pipes, it should be entirely closed.

1416
02:19:19,550 --> 02:19:24,990
But what you'll find is you'll see smoke coming out of people's roof downspouts, or out of a catch basin.

1417
02:19:25,490 --> 02:19:30,670
And that's indication that those structures are tied into the sewer man, and then you know exactly hate.

1418
02:19:31,390 --> 02:19:36,430
There's a property that has an illicit connection or an inflow issue.

1419
02:19:37,410 --> 02:19:37,850
Interesting.

1420
02:19:38,450 --> 02:19:42,230
The other question I have is on these maps, and I like these maps.

1421
02:19:42,630 --> 02:19:48,210
I mean I took pictures of them and they're really good on your piping and the one that shows all the pipes.

1422
02:19:48,830 --> 02:19:49,710
Okay, the whole system.

1423
02:19:50,690 --> 02:19:55,850
Do you actually have, is everyone of those pipes indicated like that's a 9 inch, that's a 10 inch.

1424
02:19:56,070 --> 02:19:57,510
Do you have all that mapped out too?

1425
02:19:57,690 --> 02:19:58,070
That's correct.

1426
02:19:58,410 --> 02:19:58,590
Okay.

1427
02:19:58,590 --> 02:19:59,470
Okay, that's good.

1428
02:20:02,770 --> 02:20:03,450
So,

1429
02:20:05,690 --> 02:20:13,910
thinking about this, also made me think about the storms of 22-23 there, that winter.

1430
02:20:14,910 --> 02:20:19,630
And the issue of wet weather flows is opposed to dry weather flows.

1431
02:20:20,650 --> 02:20:27,330
So given that we have all these housing mandates and we will be getting projects coming forward

1432
02:20:27,330 --> 02:20:29,730
for permitting, my question is, like,

1433
02:20:32,390 --> 02:20:40,570
Under the existing system, how much more growth can we serve given the wet weather flow issue?

1434
02:20:40,730 --> 02:20:49,110
Are we getting up against it, given these heavy rainstorms, like the 100-year storm and things like that?

1435
02:20:49,890 --> 02:20:56,950
How are we going to deal with that? How are we going to measure how close we are to real serious problems?

1436
02:20:56,950 --> 02:21:00,510
are we going to be looking at weather storage?

1437
02:21:00,550 --> 02:21:04,650
I know the other agencies at SAM think we should have more wet weather storage.

1438
02:21:05,330 --> 02:21:09,110
So I'm just wondering if we are thinking about those things too at the same time.

1439
02:21:09,670 --> 02:21:15,090
I guess that would come under hydraulic capacity, but I think it would be good to know

1440
02:21:15,090 --> 02:21:20,270
like when do we start coming up against real problems with permitting development?

1441
02:21:20,970 --> 02:21:31,250
So that is an interesting question and one that districts wrestle with constantly because you're looking at two forms of investment.

1442
02:21:31,450 --> 02:21:40,550
You can invest heavily in funds, so the same plan I believe has an average daily dry weather capacity of around 3 million gallons per day.

1443
02:21:41,090 --> 02:21:47,530
And I think the peak is around 15 million gallons per day during that 2023 storm season.

1444
02:21:47,530 --> 02:21:51,870
and we were seeing, we were right at the top there, yes.

1445
02:21:52,630 --> 02:21:54,270
And so it is a concern long-term.

1446
02:21:54,430 --> 02:21:56,910
How do you reduce, you know,

1447
02:21:57,030 --> 02:21:59,490
and if we just had dry weather flow, we'd be totally fine.

1448
02:22:00,410 --> 02:22:04,430
But how do you get that storm water out of your sewer system?

1449
02:22:06,410 --> 02:22:09,690
You could invest in, say, wet weather storage, right?

1450
02:22:09,870 --> 02:22:13,950
And that is, I would call it a lower hanging fruit.

1451
02:22:14,270 --> 02:22:16,890
Obviously it's expensive to invest time and energy

1452
02:22:16,890 --> 02:22:21,630
being to build storage that doesn't get your storm water out of your sewer system, right?

1453
02:22:21,710 --> 02:22:27,850
You're just holding on to it longer and giving the plant or your pump stations enough time to catch up to that flow.

1454
02:22:28,030 --> 02:22:31,030
So you're still paying for that water, you're still treating that water.

1455
02:22:31,850 --> 02:22:35,530
The other approach would be to tackle your eye and eye in your system.

1456
02:22:35,690 --> 02:22:40,130
And that is, it is a more of a long-term project.

1457
02:22:40,170 --> 02:22:46,050
It is a longer investment, but there's a lot of benefit there that you see in saving

1458
02:22:46,050 --> 02:22:51,030
long-term over that treatment, and there's examples of cities that have tackled by and

1459
02:22:51,030 --> 02:22:58,450
I vary aggressively, and they see real dollar savings in their operating and treatment flows

1460
02:22:59,070 --> 02:23:05,510
as a result of that. You start with the areas where you think you have the highest risk and

1461
02:23:05,510 --> 02:23:12,510
the highest concern, and you tackle those first, and in some cases it does require you going

1462
02:23:12,510 --> 02:23:19,070
door to door. As far as the inflow, that is a challenging problem because in many instances

1463
02:23:19,070 --> 02:23:23,570
it requires you to go on a private property to see what homeowners are doing and to try

1464
02:23:23,570 --> 02:23:28,510
and get them to cooperate with the rules, right? And whether that means building more infrastructure

1465
02:23:31,430 --> 02:23:37,730
or threatening fines or trying to incentivize them to do improvements, you need to find a

1466
02:23:37,730 --> 02:23:41,970
a way to motivate people to fix their system and do what's right.

1467
02:23:43,070 --> 02:23:55,850
I think Sam Matea was one city that has an incentive program where they have a limited number of residents and they will do like a cost sharing for lateral replacement every year.

1468
02:23:57,030 --> 02:24:01,730
And that volume, that program is like fully subscribed every year.

1469
02:24:01,830 --> 02:24:07,490
There's like a wait list for it because the city will actually, I think they split the cost up to like $5,000.

1470
02:24:07,490 --> 02:24:11,130
dollars for replacement of a sewer lateral from your house to the main.

1471
02:24:12,150 --> 02:24:17,390
And basically replacing that lateral, you're effectively trying to isolate any other

1472
02:24:17,390 --> 02:24:19,070
potential points of contact.

1473
02:24:19,350 --> 02:24:24,230
So things like that are, you know, there's a lot of different ways you can approach it and

1474
02:24:24,230 --> 02:24:24,910
invest money.

1475
02:24:25,790 --> 02:24:30,790
And it's something, frankly, we should be discussing more kind of in thinking about how we're going

1476
02:24:30,790 --> 02:24:31,010
to do this.

1477
02:24:31,010 --> 02:24:31,150
Yes.

1478
02:24:31,790 --> 02:24:38,890
And then also, I'm guessing this might come up as we look at our implementation zoning

1479
02:24:38,890 --> 02:24:45,110
to like development standards, you know, having more rigorous requirements for

1480
02:24:45,110 --> 02:24:50,290
onsite, you know, treatment of stormwater, capture and treatment of stormwater, too.

1481
02:24:51,110 --> 02:24:59,490
I will say that we do require CCTV of sewer laterals as a very standard requirement

1482
02:24:59,490 --> 02:25:08,930
for almost any private development permit that is going to modify plumbing fixtures or even if it's a bathroom remodel we'll say well you've got to give us a

1483
02:25:08,930 --> 02:25:13,050
Camera footage of your sewer lateral so we can see that it's in good working condition

1484
02:25:13,050 --> 02:25:21,110
And and you know it does increase the cost for development for the small projects, but it you know gradually that helps improve this

1485
02:25:21,110 --> 02:25:23,010
Condition for the whole city

1486
02:25:24,190 --> 02:25:24,970
Thank you.

1487
02:25:25,690 --> 02:25:32,450
I even notice on one of your photos it's like you've got this sewer lateral and you have a tree that's right above it.

1488
02:25:32,630 --> 02:25:40,590
You know, just in landscaping design effects, you know, making sure that you're not putting planting things that are going to obstruct your sewer line down the line.

1489
02:25:40,930 --> 02:25:51,610
Plus, the other one is you're for your vent, you know, half of them in Castle Del Mora. I mean, I used to know where my cap was but I know where everybody else's cap was because I had the measure of each property.

1490
02:25:51,610 --> 02:25:56,010
I can't even find mine now because I landscape the right over it and that's another thing.

1491
02:25:56,150 --> 02:25:58,350
You want to make sure that you have access to that cap.

1492
02:25:59,090 --> 02:26:07,370
And then going on with the mayor about earlier was I'm worried about infrastructure not catching

1493
02:26:07,370 --> 02:26:11,630
up and we have, like let's say the Metzger project with 50 units, low income.

1494
02:26:11,990 --> 02:26:12,710
I'm into it.

1495
02:26:12,890 --> 02:26:13,770
I'm digging that thing.

1496
02:26:14,010 --> 02:26:14,770
I'm loving it.

1497
02:26:15,130 --> 02:26:19,430
We have some issues that I think with drainage and we have some pipe size issues.

1498
02:26:19,550 --> 02:26:20,170
I've already heard it.

1499
02:26:20,170 --> 02:26:25,930
I heard some birds singing and I'm worried about would keep moving forward, but we don't have the infrastructure for it.

1500
02:26:26,390 --> 02:26:32,490
Not against, you know, affordable housing here, I want to be clear, I'm just saying we have to be ready for this.

1501
02:26:32,630 --> 02:26:36,390
And I think that's where you're going with this, we have to make sure that we are ready for this.

1502
02:26:36,430 --> 02:26:41,990
And that's what prompted Measure D and all these things was infrastructure wasn't ready for growth.

1503
02:26:42,490 --> 02:26:47,390
If we keep going this route with affordable housing, our infrastructure is not catching up.

1504
02:26:47,830 --> 02:26:49,190
That's why we put Measure D in.

1505
02:26:49,190 --> 02:26:53,650
And so, I want to make sure that we don't go crazy on all this stuff and we are ready for it.

1506
02:26:56,060 --> 02:26:58,360
The other questions for staff, Councilor Mnagan-Ga.

1507
02:26:59,320 --> 02:26:59,960
Thank you.

1508
02:27:00,700 --> 02:27:04,940
And you're exactly right, but I'm hearing at the Dias here.

1509
02:27:05,640 --> 02:27:10,880
I think would also maybe that could, when we talked about a storm drain priorities,

1510
02:27:11,180 --> 02:27:14,480
we tended to stick to major drainage channels.

1511
02:27:14,620 --> 02:27:16,440
I heard KEO see more in Pullman.

1512
02:27:16,440 --> 02:27:21,660
But, you know, we also have to keep in the back of our heads.

1513
02:27:22,180 --> 02:27:24,740
We go out and find all these illicit connections.

1514
02:27:25,720 --> 02:27:26,560
What are we going to do?

1515
02:27:27,540 --> 02:27:30,020
They're going to tell you, well, my backyard is lower than the street.

1516
02:27:31,240 --> 02:27:36,500
Unless I'm pumping it, you know, I'm going to find gravity first.

1517
02:27:36,860 --> 02:27:39,360
Then I'll pump it if there's a pipe in the back.

1518
02:27:40,000 --> 02:27:45,060
But I'm just thinking in the back of my head, maybe we figure out a way to help prioritize

1519
02:27:46,660 --> 02:28:14,280
some drainage improvements outside of the major channels we're talking about, but to try and get the illegal connections instead of doing a massive wet weather storage sites, you know, maybe we can provide smaller basins in some of these still undeveloped areas in town, some of our PUDs that we've identified some areas, you know, not just west or east of one.

1520
02:28:14,280 --> 02:28:35,000
And there's some west of one, too, that perhaps we could utilize areas, you know, just trying to think because if you try to start going after a lot of connections that are made, you know, backyards, because as you point out, our leader park is unique where the sewer isn't in the street, it runs through the backyards.

1521
02:28:36,940 --> 02:28:41,580
We're just thinking what could we offer for them, you know, and that could be something

1522
02:28:41,580 --> 02:28:45,180
we think about as we prioritize the storm drain master plan.

1523
02:28:45,580 --> 02:28:52,060
Well, I think, you know, we're going to find out during this super El Nino, it's going

1524
02:28:52,060 --> 02:28:53,700
to be a test, right?

1525
02:28:54,200 --> 02:28:58,700
We've got to be prepared to, you know, get out there and gather some information and get

1526
02:28:58,700 --> 02:29:06,440
get a lot of photos and just get an understanding of how our systems respond both at the street

1527
02:29:06,440 --> 02:29:10,680
and neighborhood level and you know on our major thoroughfares and things like that.

1528
02:29:10,880 --> 02:29:18,300
We ought to see this treat this as sort of like a study session and get ready for more

1529
02:29:18,300 --> 02:29:20,160
of it because more of it's coming.

1530
02:29:20,700 --> 02:29:25,020
I think that's an excellent idea because we need to learn from this one that we're going

1531
02:29:25,020 --> 02:29:30,740
to have because I'm on the DEM and they're talking about city be ready, all you cities and they're

1532
02:29:30,740 --> 02:29:35,820
pointing at saying sandbags and all that stuff, and the graphs they're showing was pretty scary.

1533
02:29:36,080 --> 02:29:41,680
So it's going to be 26 or 27 and it's going to be in that time frame, meaning this year or next.

1534
02:29:42,500 --> 02:29:46,500
So we need to be ready for it and you guys need to be ready for it and learn from this too.

1535
02:29:46,760 --> 02:29:51,700
I think it's a great idea what you're saying, see where the water is going, where is it pooling, and document.

1536
02:29:51,700 --> 02:29:56,300
That can go across the board with educating our public works, guys, when they're going

1537
02:29:56,300 --> 02:29:59,820
out to go cut the lawn, it can go that they're actually been briefed.

1538
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:29,500
Let's look at whether, if the water is going to take, take a picture and send it into you, yeah, you follow me? Super El Nino scrapbook. Yeah, that is so that you know what's going on. We'll be, we'll be giving an update on our storm preparedness. I think our next council meeting. At least an initial update. That being said, I always have love the opportunity to go out and drive around and, and see how things respond during storm events. I mean, there's an engineer.

1539
02:30:29,500 --> 02:30:36,200
We kind of peak out in that and so I you know, and we'll look and I'll go afterwards

1540
02:30:36,200 --> 02:30:41,540
I'll see you know, I remember the ditch along along highway one just

1541
02:30:42,380 --> 02:30:47,580
South of Kelly Avenue and that we put in and it was designed for like a 25-year event

1542
02:30:47,580 --> 02:30:52,440
I remember going out and looking at it was about full and I went afterwards and

1543
02:30:52,920 --> 02:30:57,240
Said, oh, what was that storm event? It was like a 25-year event. It was like oh wow perfect

1544
02:30:57,240 --> 02:30:59,200
but you know, it was just, you know,

1545
02:30:59,420 --> 02:31:00,880
so the math checks out.

1546
02:31:01,240 --> 02:31:03,380
But it's very informative to go out and see

1547
02:31:03,960 --> 02:31:06,780
kind of how things flood and it's a great,

1548
02:31:07,100 --> 02:31:08,500
it's always a great opportunity.

1549
02:31:09,160 --> 02:31:10,660
Can I just do one quick follow up here?

1550
02:31:11,200 --> 02:31:14,540
Yeah, so I actually sent a sign on letter

1551
02:31:15,000 --> 02:31:16,820
to staff earlier today.

1552
02:31:17,900 --> 02:31:21,480
There's a sign on letter to the governor

1553
02:31:23,360 --> 02:31:25,960
and the Department of Emergency Management

1554
02:31:25,960 --> 02:31:36,200
to allow emergency clean out of vegetation and channels and a whole bunch of things.

1555
02:31:36,980 --> 02:31:46,800
And they're asking for a lot of cities and special districts to sign on to allow for the next like 90 days to do some radical, you know, preparation.

1556
02:31:47,200 --> 02:31:50,380
So I'd like the staff to take a look at that and it might make sense for us.

1557
02:31:50,380 --> 02:31:54,880
And I sent it to Kishin too, as a potential sign on for them as well.

1558
02:31:55,240 --> 02:31:55,240
But

1559
02:31:58,220 --> 02:32:04,680
yeah, I think there's a lot of education pieces here that can more

1560
02:32:04,680 --> 02:32:12,920
prepare us proactively, generally in many cultures, including American cultures,

1561
02:32:13,280 --> 02:32:23,160
we're more reactive than proactive, and so we've done a lot of, well it's starting to do

1562
02:32:23,160 --> 02:32:25,980
a lot of education about how to armor your house

1563
02:32:25,980 --> 02:32:28,460
for fire prevention, right, and growth,

1564
02:32:28,860 --> 02:32:32,480
and that's pretty scary when a fire comes through,

1565
02:32:32,600 --> 02:32:33,140
and it's very

1566
02:32:36,140 --> 02:32:39,780
visceral than a lot of people

1567
02:32:39,780 --> 02:32:42,080
are thinking about flood stuff, right?

1568
02:32:45,120 --> 02:32:48,970
So there can be a lot of education

1569
02:32:48,970 --> 02:32:52,630
around in your own neighborhoods, right?

1570
02:32:52,810 --> 02:32:54,770
And cert can sometimes help out with this.

1571
02:32:56,270 --> 02:33:03,250
I've, during some of the real bad storms two years ago, three years ago, I noticed the

1572
02:33:03,250 --> 02:33:10,630
water was coming up over sidewalks and flooding people's lawns and I looked at the storm

1573
02:33:10,630 --> 02:33:15,350
drains, you know, the ones with the bars, which the bars are there to keep to breathe out.

1574
02:33:16,090 --> 02:33:22,790
But what was interesting that was happening was some of the plant debris was actually creating

1575
02:33:22,790 --> 02:33:29,290
almost like a ski lift on the first bar and the water was completely avoiding the storm

1576
02:33:29,290 --> 02:33:36,450
drain. It was literally going over it. So luckily I had some wellies you know in the garage

1577
02:33:37,090 --> 02:33:44,090
and I mean wellies way above my knees and I'm walking around the neighborhoods just kind of

1578
02:33:44,090 --> 02:33:49,790
grabbing this stuff out. But it was that easy immediately the storm drains working just fine.

1579
02:33:49,790 --> 02:33:53,490
But a lot of people don't even realize that, you know, right on the corners, you know,

1580
02:33:53,690 --> 02:33:59,690
or maybe checking out, you know, your traps, you know, in your house.

1581
02:34:00,270 --> 02:34:03,830
So you could find one, confine them, because it's covered by crap.

1582
02:34:06,710 --> 02:34:09,970
And, you know, people sometimes wonder, yeah, why are there two buttons on?

1583
02:34:10,590 --> 02:34:14,430
Why do I need a toilet with two buttons, small and large?

1584
02:34:14,570 --> 02:34:18,010
Yeah, well, that decreases water flow into the system.

1585
02:34:18,010 --> 02:34:29,190
So, and then the whole point about replacing pipes, you know, five inch pipes, I mean, you know, it's ridiculous what little capacity we might have.

1586
02:34:29,570 --> 02:34:41,710
And if we're going to start doing any kinds of buildings we need to proactively prepare for that, but also educate folks, you know, what can you do in your own home or neighborhood?

1587
02:34:41,710 --> 02:34:49,110
What about neighbors getting together and paying for some rotaruda services coming through and clean and everyone's traps?

1588
02:34:51,250 --> 02:35:00,050
Because we don't always have, well, first of all, we don't have all the public works folks to be walking around in huge storms,

1589
02:35:00,050 --> 02:35:04,110
looking at all the storm drains, but neighbors can do that. They can look in their own neighborhoods.

1590
02:35:04,110 --> 02:35:17,870
So, and I noticed that I don't know, it's almost a little bit comic, but no one ever shows up for these sewer presentations.

1591
02:35:18,530 --> 02:35:28,050
There's always two or three people left in the audience, and they're not here most likely for the sewer presentation, but it's one of the most critical things

1592
02:35:28,050 --> 02:35:32,050
If we have sewer breakage and raw sewage, remember,

1593
02:35:32,170 --> 02:35:37,170
elder not a few years ago, 300,000 gallons of raw sewage coming down the

1594
02:35:37,170 --> 02:35:37,430
district.

1595
02:35:39,630 --> 02:35:47,870
So, I think the more we can help people be proactive, use our communication

1596
02:35:47,870 --> 02:35:50,830
channels, you know, we have a good communications person.

1597
02:35:51,710 --> 02:35:53,050
And, you know, get some of those.

1598
02:35:53,230 --> 02:35:55,850
Because I see a lot of stuff on the fires, you know, how to armor stuff.

1599
02:35:55,850 --> 02:36:01,270
But I think we can do more because we're not going to fix all these problems immediately.

1600
02:36:01,590 --> 02:36:09,550
So how do we let lessen the tension incrementally on all these systems based on what's going

1601
02:36:09,550 --> 02:36:13,110
on in individual homes and some businesses as well.

1602
02:36:13,510 --> 02:36:20,510
So, and that can make a big difference, you just have a 5% decrease in a huge storm because

1603
02:36:20,510 --> 02:36:27,590
we will get walloped. That could make all the difference in the world of a huge catastrophe

1604
02:36:30,050 --> 02:36:35,590
or a manageable one. And I would also give us an example how we've, you know, we've

1605
02:36:35,590 --> 02:36:43,710
worked with PG&E to stage. Remember, we had all this PG&E trucks. It turned out the storms

1606
02:36:43,710 --> 02:36:50,570
weren't as crazy as predicted. But it means we've rehearsed a plan to get that staging

1607
02:36:50,570 --> 02:36:57,350
in place. So when this crap hits in the next year or two, PG&E knows, there's all these

1608
02:36:57,350 --> 02:37:02,990
wires to be checked and branched, crazy amount of branches. Every time you have a storm, the

1609
02:37:02,990 --> 02:37:09,150
branches get weaker. They don't get stronger. So you have an increasing potential hazard.

1610
02:37:09,150 --> 02:37:15,110
So I like the fact that, you know, we got a more proactive programs like that, be terrific.

1611
02:37:15,670 --> 02:37:17,070
I don't want real quick.

1612
02:37:17,370 --> 02:37:20,430
Our social media gather, it does all that for the Facebook and Instagram.

1613
02:37:20,650 --> 02:37:21,250
She's excellent.

1614
02:37:21,910 --> 02:37:26,810
Let's encourage, and let's try to get encouragement that we are, check your homes, be ready

1615
02:37:26,810 --> 02:37:28,990
for the Nina coming and all that stuff.

1616
02:37:29,110 --> 02:37:33,090
Let's start seeing, I know it's great to see volleyball and pick a ball and all that stuff

1617
02:37:33,090 --> 02:37:36,890
and line dancing, but we need to start prepping for the storms that are coming.

1618
02:37:36,890 --> 02:37:45,770
Yeah, one thing I've noticed in my neighborhood, Arleita Park, is that, so further east, people

1619
02:37:45,770 --> 02:37:51,570
are flush with, or maybe a little higher than the road, but then you go west, like

1620
02:37:51,570 --> 02:37:57,530
toward Railroad Avenue, and there's homes there that are actually below the road level.

1621
02:37:58,070 --> 02:38:02,850
So people are using, you know, suns to push the water out into the street, and then the

1622
02:38:02,850 --> 02:38:08,390
The people down on the west end, who's the yards end up flooding out, they have some

1623
02:38:08,390 --> 02:38:08,750
pumps.

1624
02:38:08,910 --> 02:38:14,350
I see them operating in things, but with really intense storms, it's harder.

1625
02:38:14,690 --> 02:38:19,350
So people in the east end are sending the stuff down into the yard so that people who live

1626
02:38:19,350 --> 02:38:21,990
in the west end, how do we address that?

1627
02:38:22,470 --> 02:38:23,450
It's not fair to them.

1628
02:38:30,260 --> 02:38:32,780
So I don't have any slips here.

1629
02:38:32,780 --> 02:38:32,840
here.

1630
02:38:35,310 --> 02:38:42,070
Is there anybody in the room or online who wants to comment before we move to motions?

1631
02:38:44,460 --> 02:38:49,560
Seeing none, I'd entertain a motion. The staff recommendation?

1632
02:38:53,220 --> 02:38:57,120
I move that having received a summary report on the condition of the city's sanitary sewer

1633
02:38:57,120 --> 02:39:02,360
collection system, including the results of the recent infiltration and inflow assessment.

1634
02:39:03,400 --> 02:39:22,180
And we, therefore, adopt a resolution authorizing the city manager to execute a professional service agreement with the VW House and associates for wastewater collection system engineering support services in an amount not to exceed $99,217.

1635
02:39:23,540 --> 02:39:24,340
Second.

1636
02:39:25,720 --> 02:39:27,280
Could I have a roll call, please?

1637
02:39:28,180 --> 02:39:29,040
Council Member Brownstone?

1638
02:39:29,660 --> 02:39:30,460
Yes.

1639
02:39:30,460 --> 02:39:31,800
Councilmember Johnson?

1640
02:39:32,140 --> 02:39:32,340
Yes.

1641
02:39:32,920 --> 02:39:34,180
Councilmember Nagan-Gasd?

1642
02:39:34,220 --> 02:39:34,400
Yes.

1643
02:39:34,960 --> 02:39:35,920
Mayor Reddick?

1644
02:39:36,040 --> 02:39:36,140
Yes.

1645
02:39:36,600 --> 02:39:37,320
Motion carries.

1646
02:39:37,840 --> 02:39:38,100
Thank you.

1647
02:39:38,200 --> 02:39:40,840
Moving on to the Community Banner Program, item 11c.

1648
02:39:45,280 --> 02:39:47,080
If anybody would like to discuss this item,

1649
02:39:47,220 --> 02:39:48,600
I see one person who might want to.

1650
02:39:49,280 --> 02:39:50,660
We've got a speaker's lip.

1651
02:39:51,060 --> 02:39:51,300
All right.

1652
02:39:51,540 --> 02:39:52,100
Come on.

1653
02:39:57,610 --> 02:39:58,850
Thank you for your patience.

1654
02:40:01,700 --> 02:40:02,520
Amber Stowe.

1655
02:40:04,820 --> 02:40:08,160
That's good to be here for the sewer discussion, too,

1656
02:40:08,160 --> 02:40:36,660
I think on January 5th, 2023, my husband and I had to go across the highway from our house to Main Street in sub-gale force winds with rakes in our car to go rake out the storm drain at Main and Mill to make sure that Main Street didn't flood and endanger our business.

1657
02:40:38,880 --> 02:40:43,620
As far as the community banners program, sorry, my name is Amber Stowe.

1658
02:40:43,760 --> 02:40:46,760
Thank you so much for allowing me to speak tonight.

1659
02:40:47,860 --> 02:40:53,560
My family owns the paper crane we've been in business for over 40 years on Main Street.

1660
02:40:54,560 --> 02:41:00,880
And we fully endorse what was in the agenda for the community banners program.

1661
02:41:01,920 --> 02:41:08,500
We have been involved as stakeholders at every level of the decision making.

1662
02:41:09,460 --> 02:41:16,100
We've gone to architectural advisory and planning commission meetings about the community

1663
02:41:16,100 --> 02:41:17,100
banners program.

1664
02:41:17,920 --> 02:41:20,860
We would love to see this program be implemented.

1665
02:41:21,800 --> 02:41:29,300
The vitality ordinance was a major part of revitalizing downtown as was the bridge repairs

1666
02:41:29,300 --> 02:41:38,600
that were done this year, and I think that this would be another important component in making downtown a beautiful place for people to visit.

1667
02:41:40,380 --> 02:41:47,220
So I'm eager to also see with you the presentation, and thank you so much for hearing my comments.

1668
02:41:47,960 --> 02:41:49,760
Thank you. Thanks for waiting.

1669
02:41:52,990 --> 02:41:56,830
Good evening, Madam Mayor Council and community.

1670
02:41:57,470 --> 02:42:01,790
Julie, so I'll cost that interim economic and community vitality manager, and I'm

1671
02:42:01,790 --> 02:42:03,630
doing here tonight by Dale Lida.

1672
02:42:04,690 --> 02:42:08,690
You just heard from him, and we're going to talk to you about the community banner program.

1673
02:42:09,610 --> 02:42:18,270
Like Amber mentioned, this has been an exciting project to work on, and I'm happy to share

1674
02:42:18,270 --> 02:42:25,330
that we've made a lot of progress over the last few months, thanks to the support from the

1675
02:42:25,330 --> 02:42:27,290
the downtown association, Chamber of Commerce,

1676
02:42:27,710 --> 02:42:29,390
and in addition technical assistance

1677
02:42:29,390 --> 02:42:34,170
from the Community Accelerator Program project, sorry,

1678
02:42:34,410 --> 02:42:36,430
from the Legislative Council of San Mateo County.

1679
02:42:37,710 --> 02:42:40,930
As you know, the banners and the basket

1680
02:42:40,930 --> 02:42:46,130
along the light poles on Main Street are a community asset,

1681
02:42:47,470 --> 02:42:50,030
and they've been thankfully maintained

1682
02:42:50,030 --> 02:42:53,290
and uplifted by the beautification committee

1683
02:42:53,290 --> 02:43:01,850
over the last 40-50 years, we wanted to step forward and create an opportunity for community

1684
02:43:01,850 --> 02:43:09,150
organizations to showcase or advertise or promote community events that are of public benefit,

1685
02:43:09,970 --> 02:43:15,910
and we wanted to make sure that the policy we brought forward was inclusive and equitable,

1686
02:43:15,910 --> 02:43:18,490
accessible for anyone.

1687
02:43:19,780 --> 02:43:25,890
We have met with several folks, different stakeholders that extensive research and

1688
02:43:25,890 --> 02:43:35,070
landed on a program that will allow community organizations to participate in this program.

1689
02:43:35,410 --> 02:43:40,910
And whenever we're not promoting any community events, we will be presenting as

1690
02:43:40,910 --> 02:43:45,030
a standard banner that showcases our downtown.

1691
02:43:46,370 --> 02:43:50,550
We presented to you earlier in February, I believe, this year.

1692
02:43:50,930 --> 02:43:53,130
You gave us a direction to move forward with this.

1693
02:43:53,310 --> 02:43:56,630
We continue to partner with different stakeholders, and

1694
02:43:58,470 --> 02:44:00,770
we're presented to the Architecture Advisory Committee,

1695
02:44:01,810 --> 02:44:05,930
presented also to the Planning Commission, and here we are now in front of you.

1696
02:44:06,570 --> 02:44:10,730
I also want to highlight that on top of the banners being a community

1697
02:44:10,730 --> 02:44:23,770
We asked it, this was identified as a low hanging fruit from the downtown streetscape master plan, and we wanted to include this as part of our conversation tonight.

1698
02:44:24,470 --> 02:44:28,010
We'll be briefly going over the program overview and eligibility.

1699
02:44:28,690 --> 02:44:39,650
Again, with the extensive research that we did over the last few months, we're proposing that the program is managed by city staff with a standard application process.

1700
02:44:39,650 --> 02:44:43,870
because that is EC and it's attached to the program guidelines that were included in the staff report.

1701
02:44:44,680 --> 02:44:50,670
The city will control the installation and removal process in partnership with the beautification committee.

1702
02:44:51,250 --> 02:44:54,210
And I'll go into more detail about that a little bit later.

1703
02:44:54,930 --> 02:44:59,290
The maximum display for community banners are four weeks.

1704
02:44:59,290 --> 02:44:59,830
We

1705
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:17,780
We had originally discussed two weeks, but given that some of the community events last a little bit longer and don't necessarily conflict with other events, we can extend up to four weeks if there's no other, if there are any other requests for the community banners.

1706
02:45:19,860 --> 02:45:29,860
We are trying to make sure that not one single organization or entity takes over the community banners, so we want to allow them to participate one time calendar.

1707
02:45:29,860 --> 02:45:36,800
year and the priorities as you see on the screen first the city sponsored events, the nonprofits

1708
02:45:36,800 --> 02:45:38,240
and then community events.

1709
02:45:40,940 --> 02:45:47,040
After we presented the architectural advisory committee, we part

1710
02:45:47,040 --> 02:45:53,880
of the feedback was to include a style guide. This was in partnership with the downtown association

1711
02:45:53,880 --> 02:46:00,180
and the Chamber of Commerce and what you're seeing in front is some of the examples that were pulled

1712
02:46:00,180 --> 02:46:06,080
from that style guy that is also attached to the staff report, we wanted to, again, make

1713
02:46:06,080 --> 02:46:13,920
sure that the signs were cohesive and that they felt uniform, and we wanted to provide

1714
02:46:13,920 --> 02:46:17,720
just a little bit of guidance for community organizations applying to this program so they

1715
02:46:17,720 --> 02:46:25,520
can see the type faces, the color palettes, and just the sample of the different designs so

1716
02:46:25,520 --> 02:46:29,900
that we can all see something that is uniform throughout town.

1717
02:46:30,980 --> 02:46:34,500
And now I'm going to turn it over to Dale for some of the technical.

1718
02:46:35,300 --> 02:46:41,340
Thank you, Julie, so the locations we're talking about for the program,

1719
02:46:41,620 --> 02:46:45,660
these primarily are the ornamental street lights you see on Main Street.

1720
02:46:46,080 --> 02:46:54,000
There are 42 locations, including 15 locations north of the Main Street bridge,

1721
02:46:54,000 --> 02:46:58,800
through North Main Street up to Highway 1 in 27 South of the bridge.

1722
02:46:59,160 --> 02:47:03,360
The program also includes consideration for the two existing flag poles

1723
02:47:03,360 --> 02:47:07,140
for in a half-moon-based coffee shop on the north side of the bridge

1724
02:47:07,140 --> 02:47:14,340
and the circular emblem rosette at the South Gateway at South Main in Highway 1.

1725
02:47:18,450 --> 02:47:23,430
So if you walk down Main Street today, you can see kind of a typical existing installation.

1726
02:47:23,430 --> 02:47:29,430
Again, it's not all the street lights are adorned with banner, hardware, or flyer pots.

1727
02:47:29,610 --> 02:47:37,510
I think of the existing 27 south of the bridge, I think roughly 20 or so, have existing hardware.

1728
02:47:38,510 --> 02:47:41,030
They don't always have banners on them.

1729
02:47:41,410 --> 02:47:45,550
Many of them are empty, and they're kind of oriented in different ways.

1730
02:47:46,330 --> 02:47:50,750
Using a small variety of different hardware that's been replaced from time to time.

1731
02:47:53,850 --> 02:48:05,310
For the proposed kind of program and to standardize things, we had to look at things like the poll height to meet minimum accessibility requirements.

1732
02:48:05,570 --> 02:48:20,390
We need a minimum 7 foot clearance under the sidewalk for walking as well as looking at things like severe fire hazard zone separation from buildings from flammable objects, which those codes are still.

1733
02:48:20,390 --> 02:48:24,990
in development, but it's something we're very conscientious of as we're putting this together.

1734
02:48:26,510 --> 02:48:33,290
So, with those constraints and looking at proportions, we're planning for roughly 24 inch,

1735
02:48:33,410 --> 02:48:40,110
30 inch banner height, and that's roughly the depth that we would look at to maintain those minimum

1736
02:48:40,110 --> 02:48:44,590
clearances with some buffer given the height of our existing street light poles.

1737
02:48:48,620 --> 02:48:50,960
So our existing poles out there today are aluminum.

1738
02:48:52,480 --> 02:48:58,480
We spent the last six months exploring different options for what we want to use for new hardware.

1739
02:48:59,920 --> 02:49:08,380
We spent a lot of time discussing with a local fabricator who very strongly recommended stainless steel for its performance in the marine environment.

1740
02:49:08,980 --> 02:49:18,860
And we heard a similar recommendation from the fabricator who we've been currently working with based in San Carlos who also has a lot of experience on the coast and

1741
02:49:18,860 --> 02:49:23,760
doing work in places like Hawaii and Pacific Islands, other marine environments.

1742
02:49:25,300 --> 02:49:31,600
Other options we consider, we also, I think when we presented at AAC, we also presented

1743
02:49:32,200 --> 02:49:34,820
Calvin I steel as a potential option as well as aluminum.

1744
02:49:36,640 --> 02:49:41,780
With Calvin I steel it's cheaper but you're going to get less performance out of that given

1745
02:49:41,780 --> 02:49:48,000
in our environment, and aluminum performs comparable to steel.

1746
02:49:48,120 --> 02:49:53,040
It's not as hard as steel, but the cost has actually gone up significantly since we started

1747
02:49:53,040 --> 02:50:00,540
to work, given the international steel producers, there's the conflict in the Middle East

1748
02:50:00,540 --> 02:50:07,680
and also tariffs with Canada have caused aluminum cost to go up to almost, they're very much

1749
02:50:07,680 --> 02:50:09,260
comparable with stainless steel today.

1750
02:50:10,620 --> 02:50:17,140
So, you know, we're looking at hardware from the lens of public works and our philosophy

1751
02:50:17,140 --> 02:50:22,240
is to, you know, choose the highest quality materials we can that are going to save us long-term

1752
02:50:22,240 --> 02:50:25,260
and maintenance costs because we know we struggle with maintenance here

1753
02:50:25,260 --> 02:50:30,360
and we really wanted something that was going to perform long-term well, very well.

1754
02:50:30,520 --> 02:50:34,280
And so, as part of this, we're, you know, we're looking at the hardware.

1755
02:50:34,280 --> 02:50:49,220
We're also considering how that's going to interact kind of with the existing aluminum poles, and just thinking through this in a way that when we come out of this project, we have something that looks great and it's going to continue to look great.

1756
02:50:52,680 --> 02:50:55,360
So that does come with some costs associated with it.

1757
02:50:56,540 --> 02:51:01,140
We're estimating around $100,000 today for program implementation.

1758
02:51:01,140 --> 02:51:12,040
So that would be fabrication of 42 custom sets of hardware, as well as the associated facilities that we'd use across those 42 poles.

1759
02:51:13,320 --> 02:51:19,820
I should note that there's a significant cost in here associated with just cleaning up and prepping the existing light poles.

1760
02:51:20,000 --> 02:51:28,300
If you go out and walk today, you see a lot of them have peeling paint, their dirty, some of the lights have issues, their stickers on them.

1761
02:51:28,300 --> 02:51:40,040
And so if we were going to move forward with this, we would want to take that opportunity to invest some additional energy to get those poles cleaned up and basically primed and looking good again.

1762
02:51:41,360 --> 02:51:48,800
Funding for this project, we're proposing to use funds from our Downtown Streetscape Implementation CIP project.

1763
02:51:49,720 --> 02:51:57,500
If you remember, this project started last year with the Gateway Arch, which was discontinued and we held funds in reserve.

1764
02:51:57,500 --> 02:52:12,180
If we had additional funds to that CIP this fiscal year and expanded it to include banners as well as way finding and other elements from the from the downtown streetscape master plan.

1765
02:52:13,100 --> 02:52:17,360
And so currently we have around $120,000 within that CIP.

1766
02:52:17,600 --> 02:52:20,140
This would be taking a huge chunk of those funds.

1767
02:52:21,040 --> 02:52:29,540
We're also looking at an upcoming grant from the San Mateo County Transportation Authority,

1768
02:52:29,540 --> 02:52:36,560
which just came out, it was just released this week, and aligns very well with our transportation

1769
02:52:36,560 --> 02:52:42,740
demand management plan, getting there together, which we adopted last year, and that plan

1770
02:52:42,740 --> 02:53:01,280
and includes a number of elements which Council has prioritized, including downtown wave finding and gateway elements as well as parking study to look at our parking impacts downtown and assessment for a structure.

1771
02:53:01,880 --> 02:53:12,400
So these things are all covered in our TDM, the grant program is a TDM program so it aligns very well with these priorities and would go really well with our downtown streetscape.

1772
02:53:15,930 --> 02:53:17,650
We'll turn it back over to Jelisa.

1773
02:53:18,390 --> 02:53:18,850
Thanks, Dale.

1774
02:53:19,570 --> 02:53:26,270
So as far as application fees and annual costs to the city, we're proposing a $450

1775
02:53:26,890 --> 02:53:30,190
cost, application costs to community organizations.

1776
02:53:30,850 --> 02:53:34,890
This is in consideration, staff put together roughly $600 in cost.

1777
02:53:35,630 --> 02:53:40,050
That includes installation and removal in partnership with the beautification committee and

1778
02:53:40,050 --> 02:53:43,630
and a little bit of staff time for administrating the program.

1779
02:53:45,210 --> 02:53:52,510
Assuming a 26 rounds of banner installation cycle through the year,

1780
02:53:53,450 --> 02:53:58,050
the direct cost to the city will be $15,000, $15,600

1781
02:53:58,990 --> 02:54:03,390
with a net annual cost of about $4,000.

1782
02:54:04,210 --> 02:54:08,350
This is because the city would generate $11,000,

1783
02:54:08,350 --> 02:54:12,110
$11,700 in application fees.

1784
02:54:12,690 --> 02:54:17,130
So the city subsidy to the program would be roughly $3900 per year.

1785
02:54:17,290 --> 02:54:20,570
And assuming again, the 26 cycle, so

1786
02:54:20,570 --> 02:54:24,210
meaning we have 26 banners installed every two weeks, right?

1787
02:54:25,950 --> 02:54:31,290
And the subsidy and the cost we're proposing allows organization to continue applying for

1788
02:54:31,290 --> 02:54:39,370
the community banner program while maintaining also control and access of the program in a small

1789
02:54:39,370 --> 02:54:40,350
sub-city to the city.

1790
02:54:42,490 --> 02:54:45,010
I mentioned earlier that there's an installation

1791
02:54:45,010 --> 02:54:50,550
partnership with the happen-to-beautification committee. Given the fact that they're experts

1792
02:54:50,550 --> 02:54:55,470
and they have been doing this for decades and they in our conversations with them about

1793
02:54:55,470 --> 02:55:00,690
this program, they want to step forward and continue to do that. It made sense for us to

1794
02:55:00,690 --> 02:55:04,270
to enter into a partnership with the Happen Babydification Committee for the installation

1795
02:55:04,270 --> 02:55:07,270
and removal of the banners whenever we have a new applicant.

1796
02:55:08,670 --> 02:55:13,710
They are excited to do it and we're happy to do that too if Council decides to move forward

1797
02:55:13,710 --> 02:55:14,210
with this.

1798
02:55:15,090 --> 02:55:19,910
Obviously, this will be blessed by our city attorney and giving any direction in this far

1799
02:55:19,910 --> 02:55:24,270
as insurance and any concerns that we would have, they would be addressed then.

1800
02:55:24,870 --> 02:55:28,910
And I also want to mention that just like with any new programs that we propose to Council

1801
02:55:28,910 --> 02:55:40,210
So recently we want to monitor the usage of this over the next 12 to 18 months and see how many community organizations we have applying for this if there's any need to amend or make any changes.

1802
02:55:40,890 --> 02:55:51,010
And at some point, over the next year or two we'll come back with an update to City Council on how the program is going and if we anticipate any potential changes.

1803
02:55:51,810 --> 02:55:56,250
And so with that, I'm going to just briefly go over the recommendation.

1804
02:55:57,430 --> 02:56:02,030
One is to establish the Community Banner Program and approving the Program Guidelines.

1805
02:56:04,090 --> 02:56:08,590
I'm just going to leave it at that and amend the Masterpiece Schedule to establish a Community

1806
02:56:08,590 --> 02:56:10,910
Banner Program application fee.

1807
02:56:11,250 --> 02:56:15,670
Allow the City Manager to negotiate an agreement with the Heaven-Bate beautification committee

1808
02:56:15,670 --> 02:56:17,190
for installation and removal of the banners.

1809
02:56:18,010 --> 02:56:22,290
And another authorization to City Manager to procure services, supplies, materials, and all

1810
02:56:22,290 --> 02:56:26,670
equipment necessary for the initial implementation of the Community Banner Program

1811
02:56:26,670 --> 02:56:28,550
at a cost not to exceed $100,000.

1812
02:56:29,490 --> 02:56:31,590
And we're happy to take any questions.

1813
02:56:33,310 --> 02:56:33,830
Council.

1814
02:56:35,450 --> 02:56:35,970
Good question.

1815
02:56:36,370 --> 02:56:40,950
It looks like a lot of banners to me, especially on historic Main Street.

1816
02:56:41,450 --> 02:56:46,670
I'm wondering if it's better to do like maybe every other light pole supposed to, every light pole.

1817
02:56:46,670 --> 02:56:53,630
I mean, it seems like I think it's important to not sort of cloud the visual experience

1818
02:56:53,630 --> 02:56:58,410
looking both south and north on Main Street that seems like a lot of light poles.

1819
02:56:58,670 --> 02:56:59,270
I'm just wondering.

1820
02:56:59,770 --> 02:57:06,590
And we thought about maybe staggering them or staggering the banners for the standard city

1821
02:57:06,590 --> 02:57:08,570
banner or for just community banners.

1822
02:57:13,300 --> 02:57:18,280
I'm just thinking like every other pole rather than just having banners galore.

1823
02:57:18,280 --> 02:57:25,060
lower on both sides of the street. I'm just wondering if maybe we don't need as many. Maybe 43 is

1824
02:57:25,060 --> 02:57:30,760
too many. Maybe on North Main Street it seems to make a little more sense, and it does like south of the

1825
02:57:30,760 --> 02:57:40,860
bridge, or south of 92. But it just struck me looking at the map of the locations. That seemed like a lot,

1826
02:57:41,420 --> 02:57:45,340
but yeah. Part of the feedback we've heard is you don't

1827
02:57:45,340 --> 02:57:54,300
consistency throughout, and so it doesn't feel like one is missing something, that's part

1828
02:57:54,300 --> 02:57:57,880
of the feedback that we've heard from the different folks that we've been getting to it.

1829
02:57:58,220 --> 02:57:59,980
Can I ask Amber what she thinks about that?

1830
02:58:07,860 --> 02:58:08,540
Thank you.

1831
02:58:12,850 --> 02:58:19,990
If you look at the way that the blocks are laid out, I know there's, it's difficult to zoom

1832
02:58:19,990 --> 02:58:25,450
into that actual view, but like let's say you take the 300 block, that's five light poles

1833
02:58:25,450 --> 02:58:32,730
on that block. There's also trees that are competing with visual space. There's going

1834
02:58:32,730 --> 02:58:37,870
to be baskets that are competing with visual space. And when we're talking about someone

1835
02:58:37,870 --> 02:58:44,050
who's driving through town, we want to make sure that they're not diverting their eyes

1836
02:58:44,050 --> 02:58:49,830
up to the banner for too long. And I sort of worried that that might have been a concern

1837
02:58:49,830 --> 02:58:58,750
In terms of safety for pedestrians and motorists, if someone is reading a banner from too far away off to the side of the road,

1838
02:58:58,770 --> 02:59:05,250
whereas if they can flick their vision up every so often, then that's not going to be quite as big of a problem.

1839
02:59:06,290 --> 02:59:15,590
Maybe if we reduced it to a certain number of street poles per block, like maybe three poles or four poles per block,

1840
02:59:15,590 --> 02:59:24,650
That might be enough to create the visual space that we're looking for when we're, when these events are being promoted.

1841
02:59:26,910 --> 02:59:33,890
Perhaps five might be excessive, like we see on the, I think that's the 500 block right there.

1842
02:59:35,470 --> 02:59:42,830
Yeah, and I'm not making any, you know, from recommendation one way or the other, but it just struck me as a lot and I just thought I'd bring that up and

1843
02:59:42,830 --> 02:59:59,790
I have people, you know, talk about that but one other minor consideration is we did not want to just limit the banners to the three main blocks of historic main street.

1844
03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:28,860
We felt that wouldn't create enough cohesion with the other portions of Main Street that are being developed and up and coming, like the six and seven hundred blocks, which are experiencing a lot of really good tourist growth right now. And creating that as a thoroughfare and planning for the future, when those blocks really kind of bloom and come into their own, we thought was important.

1845
03:00:31,070 --> 03:00:33,250
Madam Mayor, can I chime in on this?

1846
03:00:33,990 --> 03:00:35,770
There's a couple of considerations here.

1847
03:00:36,030 --> 03:00:38,670
One, of course, is just the economies of scale.

1848
03:00:39,390 --> 03:00:43,110
Reducing, and I know your argument isn't about money.

1849
03:00:43,250 --> 03:00:47,410
It's about visual clutter, and so that's a broader conversation.

1850
03:00:48,190 --> 03:00:52,850
But I think it's important to think about reducing the number of banners and banner,

1851
03:00:53,410 --> 03:00:54,330
the hardware.

1852
03:00:54,710 --> 03:01:00,210
We'll reduce the cost, but it's somewhat incremental because the mobilization,

1853
03:01:00,210 --> 03:01:03,070
and there's economies of scale for buying the hardware.

1854
03:01:03,930 --> 03:01:05,130
The other thing we have to think about

1855
03:01:05,130 --> 03:01:07,070
is kind of our hopes for the future.

1856
03:01:07,570 --> 03:01:09,370
And that is what the Hyatt being built.

1857
03:01:11,010 --> 03:01:12,170
I would like to see the,

1858
03:01:12,430 --> 03:01:14,750
right now these ornamental poles run

1859
03:01:14,750 --> 03:01:16,830
from North Main at Highway One

1860
03:01:17,330 --> 03:01:19,110
to about the IDS hall,

1861
03:01:19,270 --> 03:01:22,070
just south of IDS hall, and then they stop.

1862
03:01:23,110 --> 03:01:24,950
And eventually I think it'd be great

1863
03:01:24,950 --> 03:01:27,070
to see these continue all the way down

1864
03:01:27,070 --> 03:01:28,570
to the South Main intersection.

1865
03:01:29,090 --> 03:01:34,350
And then I keep talking about it and I think we're going to get there is we really need

1866
03:01:34,350 --> 03:01:40,470
to consider East Kelly, basically between Main Street and Highway 1 as an extension of Main

1867
03:01:40,470 --> 03:01:40,770
Street.

1868
03:01:40,770 --> 03:01:45,510
I think it's important for drawing in visitors and creating a more cohesive downtown.

1869
03:01:46,670 --> 03:01:52,890
So I think one of the things we could think about is with an approval tonight and a little

1870
03:01:52,890 --> 03:01:57,430
bit of direction to kind of take a step back and look at how many of these do we really

1871
03:01:57,430 --> 03:02:00,730
We want to do right now with this initial placement.

1872
03:02:01,210 --> 03:02:06,330
There could be the opportunity with one of those future phases to add more if we feel like we need more.

1873
03:02:06,990 --> 03:02:11,710
Or replicate what we think is working on the rest of Main Street on those other areas.

1874
03:02:12,150 --> 03:02:17,850
So a lot of words being used, but I think there's an opportunity for us to take that lens.

1875
03:02:18,410 --> 03:02:24,690
Work with some of our community partners and look at okay where, where maybe we do not need a banner puller.

1876
03:02:24,690 --> 03:02:27,450
which block is already congested with these things.

1877
03:02:27,710 --> 03:02:31,510
So I think we could do that without modifying kind of our discussion today.

1878
03:02:31,910 --> 03:02:34,210
Everything could be up to at this point.

1879
03:02:34,230 --> 03:02:34,690
Thank you for that.

1880
03:02:36,860 --> 03:02:38,900
Yeah, I was thinking all the same things that you've mentioned.

1881
03:02:39,300 --> 03:02:43,540
Side streets, people coming down from a highway one during it.

1882
03:02:44,060 --> 03:02:46,940
But I like the incremental approach that we're using.

1883
03:02:47,520 --> 03:02:48,800
We're gonna put some stuff up.

1884
03:02:49,500 --> 03:02:50,380
Let's get some feedback.

1885
03:02:51,160 --> 03:02:52,420
What are we hoping for?

1886
03:02:52,620 --> 03:02:53,300
What are the results?

1887
03:02:53,780 --> 03:03:00,080
and then getting all the feedback from both the public citizens and business owners and see what they think.

1888
03:03:00,640 --> 03:03:03,200
And I think that'll build a nice energy and that's the way to do it.

1889
03:03:05,060 --> 03:03:08,620
And then we'll collect more fees later and put some more money into it.

1890
03:03:08,720 --> 03:03:13,140
But I just really appreciate that we're, for a while, we're getting feedback from downtown.

1891
03:03:14,120 --> 03:03:17,880
Association saying I was a city going to put in some effort and some resources.

1892
03:03:18,580 --> 03:03:22,120
And I'm just glad that we're coming around to doing it.

1893
03:03:22,120 --> 03:03:25,420
but in a very plan-ful way that we can measure the results of.

1894
03:03:25,560 --> 03:03:29,520
So, great presentation, love the slides with the images,

1895
03:03:29,760 --> 03:03:30,580
with the flower pots.

1896
03:03:30,960 --> 03:03:32,420
I mean, you're an artist.

1897
03:03:32,720 --> 03:03:35,360
What can I say, but really nice PowerPoints there.

1898
03:03:35,580 --> 03:03:36,100
So, thank you.

1899
03:03:42,840 --> 03:03:45,580
So, the two big poles there on the bridge,

1900
03:03:46,400 --> 03:03:48,660
which I put in 20-something years ago.

1901
03:03:49,760 --> 03:03:53,260
I notice a red in the report, you're still looking at perhaps some type

1902
03:03:53,260 --> 03:03:59,480
a flagpole or something to put in there, because we decided it's not going to work stretching

1903
03:03:59,480 --> 03:04:05,000
a banner across, but maybe a flag type, I think that's what you call them right when

1904
03:04:05,000 --> 03:04:05,120
you.

1905
03:04:05,720 --> 03:04:11,400
Yeah, so we have discussed hardware at those two, and you can see that image on the left,

1906
03:04:11,580 --> 03:04:13,920
there where those poles are.

1907
03:04:14,240 --> 03:04:17,140
It's kind of been an interesting discussion with the local fabricators.

1908
03:04:17,140 --> 03:04:34,820
to some extent there were some initial concern expressed about using those poles in a way that they were not originally intended to be used, which I think that is something that we can address.

1909
03:04:38,200 --> 03:04:42,920
But there's some limitations on the hardware, how we would do this on those existing poles.

1910
03:04:43,320 --> 03:04:46,440
It's a little bit different than mounting on our street lights.

1911
03:04:46,440 --> 03:04:48,020
We really don't want to be drilling into them.

1912
03:04:50,000 --> 03:04:53,300
And it just requires a little bit more thought on how we would implement that.

1913
03:04:55,530 --> 03:04:58,490
You're still working and trying to think that one out a little bit.

1914
03:04:58,910 --> 03:05:01,050
We are still working that one out, yes.

1915
03:05:01,050 --> 03:05:01,210
Yes.

1916
03:05:01,570 --> 03:05:03,910
I still see the wire across the top there.

1917
03:05:05,110 --> 03:05:07,450
You could string some Christmas lights or something across.

1918
03:05:09,410 --> 03:05:17,750
I also know one of the things I like about using these poles is it almost starts to create

1919
03:05:17,750 --> 03:05:19,810
that entry gateway archway.

1920
03:05:20,350 --> 03:05:26,350
Now it's not the one that's going to draw people off of 92 but it does really welcome you

1921
03:05:26,350 --> 03:05:33,230
into the downtown and across our beautifully refurbished Main Street Bridge. So proud we

1922
03:05:33,230 --> 03:05:40,230
can say that finally. So I think that the utilization of these poles is going to be part of that

1923
03:05:40,230 --> 03:05:44,110
welcoming experience. I'm really excited about that as well. A good acknowledgment.

1924
03:05:49,060 --> 03:05:49,640
I'm excited

1925
03:05:49,640 --> 03:05:53,720
about this. It was a year and a half ago I was sitting in Betsy's Johnny's and talking to her and

1926
03:05:53,720 --> 03:05:58,300
she's the one that brought it all up to me and Amber you remember this whole thing and she really wanted

1927
03:05:59,820 --> 03:06:03,320
I don't know if we've got the brass balls, but she wants brass balls.

1928
03:06:03,680 --> 03:06:05,140
I want to make sure we get the brass balls.

1929
03:06:06,660 --> 03:06:08,060
But it's taken a long time.

1930
03:06:08,660 --> 03:06:12,180
I'm honestly, it's taken a long time, but I'm glad to see it's now here and

1931
03:06:12,180 --> 03:06:14,880
I'm really impressed with the work, I'm impressed with this report.

1932
03:06:16,180 --> 03:06:17,800
Amber, thank you for coming here.

1933
03:06:17,960 --> 03:06:21,560
Thank you so much and being involved in the you have been since day one.

1934
03:06:23,120 --> 03:06:27,540
Dale, you talked to me about, and thank you, we had a little side discussion

1935
03:06:27,540 --> 03:06:32,560
on the brackets and the pain in the ass that was, excuse my French, but did you get that

1936
03:06:32,560 --> 03:06:36,280
all dialed in and how you're going to screw it into the pole because the picture makes it look

1937
03:06:36,280 --> 03:06:41,160
like it's beautiful, no big deal, but I know there's more to it than that. And then the other thing I

1938
03:06:41,160 --> 03:06:45,920
want to know is the aluminum versus stainless steel and corrosion and you're also going to powder

1939
03:06:45,920 --> 03:06:50,560
coat that will adhere to the powder coating or the powder coating adhere to the aluminum or the

1940
03:06:50,560 --> 03:06:57,500
stainless steel. So the powder coating will adhere to both. It will perform better on the

1941
03:06:57,500 --> 03:07:02,260
stainless steel than it will in the aluminum due to the pitting with scratches and exposure.

1942
03:07:02,680 --> 03:07:07,960
So that was one of the reasons we wanted to, we were leaning towards stainless and

1943
03:07:07,960 --> 03:07:10,400
that feedback we received from the fabricators.

1944
03:07:11,510 --> 03:07:20,300
We had looked at, in addition to the two local fabricators, we did look at two ready made

1945
03:07:20,300 --> 03:07:27,000
options for hardware, two different sources online retailers and we ordered samples of

1946
03:07:27,000 --> 03:07:32,440
variety of samples which we looked at and we cannot find anything meeting kind of the

1947
03:07:32,440 --> 03:07:37,440
specs that we were looking for with a stainless steel and you know what we did get it

1948
03:07:37,440 --> 03:07:42,160
was you know it wasn't correct it wasn't what we were looking for the welding was sloppy

1949
03:07:42,160 --> 03:07:48,040
on it. It just really it really didn't meet the standard that we were looking for that that

1950
03:07:48,040 --> 03:07:54,200
well we needed our concern about ongoing maintenance with these so working with the fabricators

1951
03:07:54,200 --> 03:07:55,920
There's obviously is a huge benefit.

1952
03:07:56,100 --> 03:07:59,240
They're willing to look at different gauges, different thicknesses,

1953
03:07:59,360 --> 03:08:06,240
the material, different points of connection, and the fabricator we're leaning towards

1954
03:08:06,240 --> 03:08:13,480
moving with right now, and St. Carlos there, they're planning to do prototype options for

1955
03:08:13,480 --> 03:08:17,140
us to look at, and we could try those out and see what they look like and feel like

1956
03:08:17,140 --> 03:08:22,440
before we go all in, and that's included in a scope of work that they've provided us.

1957
03:08:22,440 --> 03:08:29,000
As far as the brass hardware, that was another thing we asked about to get feedback.

1958
03:08:29,660 --> 03:08:35,180
So dissimilar metals have potential to cause unexpected corrosion one way or the other.

1959
03:08:35,780 --> 03:08:40,860
So aluminum and steel, that can happen.

1960
03:08:41,060 --> 03:08:45,820
It's more problematic when you have a large steel body and a smaller aluminum body.

1961
03:08:46,020 --> 03:08:50,340
The aluminum is more reactive and will corrode more readily.

1962
03:08:50,340 --> 03:09:04,720
But it is still a concern here and so we would as part of this we would there's a plan we would use a preventative we would use a sleeve to help separate and reduce kind of the contact between the steel and the aluminum.

1963
03:09:05,500 --> 03:09:13,140
I'm told that the brass would be compatible with stainless steel it would be less compatible more of a concern if we want with aluminum.

1964
03:09:14,740 --> 03:09:16,620
Who's going to polish the brass balls?

1965
03:09:19,260 --> 03:09:25,620
I think you'd have to expect any brass balls would have the green patina on them very quickly

1966
03:09:25,620 --> 03:09:28,320
here on the coast side and we probably have to accept that.

1967
03:09:28,620 --> 03:09:33,740
Yeah, and that's another reality with brass is it will tarnish and, you know, if you like

1968
03:09:33,740 --> 03:09:36,360
that look, if that's the look we're going for, you know, great.

1969
03:09:36,940 --> 03:09:39,960
But it's another thing to consider.

1970
03:09:41,400 --> 03:09:47,460
If the desire is for shiny brass, I think we're setting ourselves up for failure.

1971
03:09:48,120 --> 03:09:54,160
I think Amber can we check with Betsy that she can go with black and get a blessing on

1972
03:09:54,160 --> 03:09:54,320
that.

1973
03:09:54,780 --> 03:09:56,300
I think we should change that.

1974
03:09:56,960 --> 03:10:00,620
I knew this was going to evolve to that, but I just wanted to keep saying Betsy wants

1975
03:10:00,620 --> 03:10:01,180
brass balls.

1976
03:10:03,040 --> 03:10:07,280
The other question I have is on the four weeks, I think it's a great idea that you keep

1977
03:10:07,280 --> 03:10:11,660
that going for four weeks because you have let's say somebody came into town and they

1978
03:10:11,660 --> 03:10:15,660
love Half Moon Bay and they look up and they go oh there's a punk and festival we missed

1979
03:10:15,660 --> 03:10:21,360
it but then they see it or there's an air show or whatever the dream machines or odd fellows

1980
03:10:21,360 --> 03:10:25,100
had some movie night and they're whatever or the rotary club so I'm hoping that we're going

1981
03:10:25,100 --> 03:10:30,720
to branch this out to all the venues that we have boys and girls club everybody you know

1982
03:10:30,720 --> 03:10:36,100
Park and Rec and all that whatever we have like pickle bowl whatever tournament if we do

1983
03:10:36,100 --> 03:10:40,180
that. But the four weeks just shows that boy we've got something going on all the

1984
03:10:40,180 --> 03:10:47,320
time so we extend that out. It was oh like the one I do the one on 92 and this

1985
03:10:47,320 --> 03:10:51,280
is from crystalline and Betsy and everybody was like what was it play, stay, shop

1986
03:10:51,280 --> 03:10:55,380
and eat, whatever it was that I did I can't remember exactly where it if we have

1987
03:10:55,380 --> 03:11:00,660
that one because you're talking about no event banner correct right so let's

1988
03:11:00,660 --> 03:11:05,260
have a no event banner but it's also saying hey come play, stay, shop and

1989
03:11:05,260 --> 03:11:06,660
dying. That's what it was, dying.

1990
03:11:09,440 --> 03:11:12,540
This are the ones, the examples you're seeing on the

1991
03:11:12,540 --> 03:11:16,540
screen right now are the ones that came from the silo guide. And this will be the standard

1992
03:11:16,540 --> 03:11:21,060
ban or whenever we don't have an event. So let's say, pump compressible is over and we don't

1993
03:11:21,060 --> 03:11:26,620
have anything up until the winter, which is nights of lights. And so for the month of November,

1994
03:11:26,780 --> 03:11:31,340
we can have something like this throughout town. And it'd be a variety of them. We wouldn't just have

1995
03:11:31,340 --> 03:11:36,520
one on every single sign we'd get multiple of them made so you'd have some

1996
03:11:36,520 --> 03:11:41,640
varieties you drive down the street of color and design yeah I'm excited

1997
03:11:41,640 --> 03:11:45,220
about this and thank you so much it looks great make

1998
03:11:48,580 --> 03:11:49,960
a motion it's

1999
03:11:53,730 --> 03:11:54,170
all along

2000
03:11:56,530 --> 03:12:04,070
sure keep them busy recommend that we adopt a resolution establishing the

2001
03:12:04,070 --> 03:12:33,590
the community first establishing the community banner program and improving the community banner program authorizing the city manager or his designated to make amendments to effectively implement and administer the program subject to the special to the approved special sign program to amending the master fee schedule to establish a community banner program application fee in the amount of $450 per approved banner cycle.

2002
03:12:34,070 --> 03:12:47,530
Three, authorizing the city manager to negotiate and execute an agreement with the Half Moon Bay beautification committee for the installation and removal of community banners in a form approved by the city attorney.

2003
03:12:47,910 --> 03:13:01,310
And four, authorizing the city manager to procure services, supplies, materials, and equipment necessary for the initial implementation of the community banner program, including banner hardware, banner,

2004
03:13:01,310 --> 03:13:06,770
and related materials, and it costs not to exceed $100,000.

2005
03:13:08,470 --> 03:13:09,150
Second.

2006
03:13:15,780 --> 03:13:16,880
Council member Brownstone?

2007
03:13:17,320 --> 03:13:17,480
Yes.

2008
03:13:17,880 --> 03:13:18,720
Council member Johnson?

2009
03:13:19,140 --> 03:13:19,480
Oh, yeah.

2010
03:13:19,900 --> 03:13:21,180
Council member Megan Gas?

2011
03:13:21,400 --> 03:13:21,540
Yes.

2012
03:13:22,000 --> 03:13:22,640
Mayor Radeck?

2013
03:13:22,800 --> 03:13:22,940
Yes.

2014
03:13:23,460 --> 03:13:24,040
Motion carries.

2015
03:13:24,380 --> 03:13:24,680
Exciting.

2016
03:13:25,120 --> 03:13:25,440
Okay.

2017
03:13:25,820 --> 03:13:26,200
Thanks, everyone.

2018
03:13:27,240 --> 03:13:28,040
Thank you.

2019
03:13:28,500 --> 03:13:28,840
Okay.

2020
03:13:28,940 --> 03:13:33,980
Now we're moving on to the Carter Park donor program update.

2021
03:13:50,470 --> 03:13:50,650
Okay.

2022
03:13:50,850 --> 03:13:51,590
Good evening again.

2023
03:13:52,230 --> 03:13:56,990
Jalisa Kossa, Interim Economic and Community Vitality Manager, and I'm here joined by Karen

2024
03:13:56,990 --> 03:13:58,970
Decker, or Interim Deputy City Manager.

2025
03:13:59,690 --> 03:14:02,450
And we're going to talk to you about the Carter Park donor program.

2026
03:14:02,810 --> 03:14:02,830
Right.

2027
03:14:03,970 --> 03:14:10,450
Just for a little bit of background, in 2019, the Parks Master Plan identified Carter Park

2028
03:14:10,450 --> 03:14:17,170
as a potential site that was being underutilized at the time and recommended some updates.

2029
03:14:17,170 --> 03:14:25,050
In 2022, we received funding from Assemblymember Mark Bourbon for

2030
03:14:25,050 --> 03:14:30,350
0.75 million dollars plus additional funding to add improvements to the park.

2031
03:14:31,190 --> 03:14:36,810
During that time, there was a policy adopted for donations,

2032
03:14:36,950 --> 03:14:39,650
specifically related to Carter Park.

2033
03:14:40,010 --> 03:14:43,110
This was an anticipation of the construction project that was going to happen,

2034
03:14:43,110 --> 03:14:48,950
and included a little bit more of construction sort of scope to the park.

2035
03:14:49,810 --> 03:14:55,790
As of 2026, the park's renovation have been completed and the program is in active use.

2036
03:14:56,290 --> 03:14:59,870
You may remember back in May, we brought forward.

2037
03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:27,820
Record recommendation to adopt a new fee structure for Carter Park so we can start including it in our rental facilities program. What you're seeing in your screen right now is the park being active. We've used it for city sponsor events, like the 4th of July fun zone. We've had our first summers and last year after the park was renovated with a hosted of VIP reception.

2038
03:15:29,000 --> 03:15:38,060
We have movies in the park coming up later this month and early October, and we want to continue utilizing the park.

2039
03:15:38,440 --> 03:15:49,020
And as you see, this is a very active space right now, and local community organizations have also rented the park as part of the new structure.

2040
03:15:51,160 --> 03:15:59,680
Because we've switched from construction to program needs, now that the park is active,

2041
03:16:00,440 --> 03:16:11,700
our needs for staircase or restrooms have changed, and now we're more into how do we continue

2042
03:16:11,700 --> 03:16:16,280
promoting the park and its activities and add enhancements now that the park is fully renovated.

2043
03:16:16,280 --> 03:16:22,600
staff work closely with the Parks and Recreation Committee and receive feedback.

2044
03:16:23,360 --> 03:16:26,480
We wanted to present an opportunity to update the program,

2045
03:16:27,380 --> 03:16:29,620
the donor program for Carter Park specifically.

2046
03:16:30,200 --> 03:16:36,760
And we came up with four recommendations tonight or four different options to donate tonight.

2047
03:16:37,340 --> 03:16:40,340
One of them is what we're calling gift to H&B.

2048
03:16:40,340 --> 03:16:49,180
This is in, this came from an inspiration from a gift to SF program that the city of the city and county of San Francisco has.

2049
03:16:49,920 --> 03:16:58,220
We want to try this online opportunity to allow community members to make donations via online, which is something that we don't currently have.

2050
03:16:58,220 --> 03:17:10,260
We are a can or interim finance admin services director is working with a vendor that offers this service at no cost of the city.

2051
03:17:10,480 --> 03:17:16,260
And so we're excited to explore this opportunity for folks to donate online.

2052
03:17:17,100 --> 03:17:25,340
We also have black opportunities for folks who want to have larger contributions.

2053
03:17:25,340 --> 03:17:31,100
And we'll have, and Karen's going to talk a little bit more about what those black opportunities would look like in the actual park.

2054
03:17:31,820 --> 03:17:36,960
We also are considering naming opportunities for gifts that are larger than $100,000.

2055
03:17:37,340 --> 03:17:45,760
And this will obviously be in collaboration with city staff, individually managed and obviously city council approved.

2056
03:17:46,500 --> 03:17:53,100
And then also in kind of contributions, somebody may want to support a succulent garden up at the rooftop or

2057
03:17:53,100 --> 03:17:56,960
or produce some sort of landscaper update to the park

2058
03:17:56,960 --> 03:17:59,100
and just that form.

2059
03:18:00,920 --> 03:18:03,120
I'm gonna turn it over to Karen,

2060
03:18:03,300 --> 03:18:05,880
so she can talk to Council about the different options.

2061
03:18:10,270 --> 03:18:13,450
Okay, so this table shows the plaque locations

2062
03:18:13,450 --> 03:18:14,550
that we're proposing.

2063
03:18:15,250 --> 03:18:19,130
There's a seating area, there's the amphitheater wall location

2064
03:18:19,130 --> 03:18:21,470
as you're descending those stairs of Carter Park

2065
03:18:22,470 --> 03:18:25,110
at three different sizes and price points.

2066
03:18:26,490 --> 03:18:30,390
We are proposing recognition terms of five to 10 years.

2067
03:18:30,970 --> 03:18:33,330
We learned a lot from our Memorial Bench program.

2068
03:18:33,630 --> 03:18:37,330
There was no limit to plaques and it caused a lot of confusion.

2069
03:18:37,570 --> 03:18:39,090
There was a lack of policy at the time.

2070
03:18:39,390 --> 03:18:43,530
So we're trying to take lessons learned from inactive program

2071
03:18:43,530 --> 03:18:47,950
and provide some parameters and flexibility going into the future.

2072
03:18:49,290 --> 03:18:53,150
Unlike in 2022, this isn't an open-ended tier system.

2073
03:18:53,430 --> 03:18:55,450
It's a fixed finite inventory.

2074
03:18:55,450 --> 03:19:02,050
So once a location is claimed for such a plaque, it's kind of off the table so to speak until a future capital project

2075
03:19:02,050 --> 03:19:04,830
I'm creates a new space or until that term ends.

2076
03:19:07,990 --> 03:19:12,570
So this picture illustrates that seating area what we mean by S-A-1 and

2077
03:19:13,210 --> 03:19:18,030
those rectangles that you see that are evenly spaced across those tiers were strategically

2078
03:19:18,970 --> 03:19:25,930
Chosen because the intention was not to look too cluttered. We talked to other agencies that have a lot of plaques

2079
03:19:25,930 --> 03:19:30,670
and the feedback that we got was that tourist felt like it was almost like a cemetery.

2080
03:19:30,670 --> 03:19:32,470
It started to look cluttered quickly.

2081
03:19:33,590 --> 03:19:37,090
Also, these are strategically placed over existing lights.

2082
03:19:37,630 --> 03:19:42,530
So if it got to be dusk or nighttime, this would really beautifully illuminate what's already there

2083
03:19:43,070 --> 03:19:45,290
in a way to draw attention to that donor.

2084
03:19:48,130 --> 03:19:51,730
So these are the actual locations tied to the table that you just saw.

2085
03:19:51,730 --> 03:19:55,970
the seating area behind the amphitheater seating and then the two wall locations

2086
03:19:55,970 --> 03:20:01,450
flanking the amphitheater. We believe that having real photos tied to real

2087
03:20:01,450 --> 03:20:06,110
location IDs makes it easier for prospective donors and for us to track

2088
03:20:06,110 --> 03:20:11,650
what's available. So just to summarize what we're proposing that would change from

2089
03:20:11,650 --> 03:20:16,490
the 2022 policy that was adopted compared to what we believe makes sense moving

2090
03:20:16,490 --> 03:20:21,450
forward since the park is already renovated. We want to move from one time capital

2091
03:20:21,450 --> 03:20:27,970
focused fundraising to an ongoing giving program. We are replacing open-ended dollar

2092
03:20:27,970 --> 03:20:34,290
tiers with a fixed, priced inventory of locations. We're establishing naming opportunities

2093
03:20:34,290 --> 03:20:41,390
as a formal, separate pathway. And we're setting $100,000 as a threshold for what we're considering

2094
03:20:41,390 --> 03:20:48,910
a major gift. Or folks could earn other named recognition opportunities, but that would

2095
03:20:48,910 --> 03:20:52,590
would be individually negotiated and it would require City Council approval.

2096
03:20:53,010 --> 03:20:55,190
It's just a really quick example of what I mean by that.

2097
03:20:55,630 --> 03:21:01,630
If someone say they made a donation but it was tied to a particular enhancement or piece of equipment,

2098
03:21:01,850 --> 03:21:07,630
like somebody wanted to purchase an LED screen for ongoing use for the city to the tune of $35,000,

2099
03:21:07,710 --> 03:21:15,590
we want Council to be in a position to be flexible and that screen could potentially have the name of that entity or that company

2100
03:21:15,590 --> 03:21:18,070
at the top of the screen if Council approved it,

2101
03:21:18,190 --> 03:21:20,350
even though that wouldn't meet the $100,000 threshold.

2102
03:21:20,990 --> 03:21:23,970
So naming could go to a particular place

2103
03:21:23,970 --> 03:21:26,330
like the rooftop garden or the stage,

2104
03:21:26,750 --> 03:21:28,990
or it could be tied to a particular enhancement

2105
03:21:28,990 --> 03:21:30,750
or amenity like lights or a screen.

2106
03:21:33,070 --> 03:21:36,010
So recognition terms are now capped at five to 10 years

2107
03:21:36,010 --> 03:21:38,710
for plaques and one year for a website listing.

2108
03:21:39,030 --> 03:21:39,590
That's renewable.

2109
03:21:40,490 --> 03:21:43,430
And we've added clear content standards for inscriptions,

2110
03:21:43,910 --> 03:21:46,050
a donor disclosure and release process

2111
03:21:46,050 --> 03:21:48,950
and clear terms on maintenance and removal.

2112
03:21:49,570 --> 03:21:51,850
So the city retains full discretion.

2113
03:21:55,100 --> 03:21:57,860
And just for convenience, we pasted the recommendation.

2114
03:21:58,360 --> 03:22:01,420
We are recommending that Council adopt a resolution of

2115
03:22:01,420 --> 03:22:03,500
proving an update to the donor recognition and

2116
03:22:03,500 --> 03:22:08,360
naming policy for Carter Park, replacing the policy that was adopted on June 7th, 2022,

2117
03:22:08,700 --> 03:22:11,440
with the Carter Park donor and sponsorship program.

2118
03:22:12,080 --> 03:22:14,880
And Julie Sunhier, open to taking clarifying questions or comments.

2119
03:22:20,000 --> 03:22:22,880
That would be a CIP project outside of the donor program and it is something that I'm

2120
03:22:22,880 --> 03:22:23,380
looking for.

2121
03:22:23,980 --> 03:22:24,320
Thank you.

2122
03:22:25,380 --> 03:22:26,240
Three quick ones.

2123
03:22:26,460 --> 03:22:28,720
First, what about a sign that says Carter Park?

2124
03:22:30,600 --> 03:22:33,180
I keep asking for that one.

2125
03:22:33,460 --> 03:22:36,220
I've actually had people not know where it is.

2126
03:22:37,180 --> 03:22:39,460
So yeah, we're still working on that.

2127
03:22:39,460 --> 03:22:39,800
Right?

2128
03:22:40,100 --> 03:22:40,980
Yeah, I'll jump in on this.

2129
03:22:41,100 --> 03:22:44,820
That would be a CIP project outside of the donor program.

2130
03:22:45,160 --> 03:22:48,200
And it is something that when we bring the priorities

2131
03:22:48,200 --> 03:22:49,940
work plan for to you at the next meeting,

2132
03:22:50,460 --> 03:22:52,000
is listed as one of the options.

2133
03:22:52,000 --> 03:22:53,760
We'll want to talk about where to prioritize it.

2134
03:22:53,860 --> 03:22:54,140
That'd be good.

2135
03:22:54,540 --> 03:22:58,920
And then if somebody would give the say for maintenance,

2136
03:22:58,920 --> 03:23:00,580
because I believe some already has,

2137
03:23:01,200 --> 03:23:03,760
that that money specifically stays there,

2138
03:23:03,760 --> 03:23:06,240
that a recession or something happens,

2139
03:23:06,240 --> 03:23:08,880
we're not tempted to put it somewhere else.

2140
03:23:08,880 --> 03:23:19,160
that it stays specifically, if it was given specifically for maintenance of Carter Park when you don't have the ability to maintain it anymore, it is there for that reason, right?

2141
03:23:19,900 --> 03:23:34,360
Yeah, this is not hypothetical, this is a real thing, we have one large donor thus far for Carter Park and that's specifically their request, with the caveat that if there was a specific need, we could approach them and talk about it.

2142
03:23:36,060 --> 03:23:48,820
And Ken has earmarked those funds within, and Ken, you might want to speak to this, I believe we created a separate maintenance fund for Carter Park, and that's where that money sits and it's earmarked.

2143
03:23:48,820 --> 03:23:59,960
So it will be, I mean, and then God forbid, I'm not on council anymore or you're not a city manager, but it will still be there that somebody will know it was for Carter Park maintenance.

2144
03:23:59,960 --> 03:24:07,760
Yeah. Okay. Just one more point to that. We also have the new give to HMB digital platform.

2145
03:24:08,380 --> 03:24:16,660
This is specific to Carter Park. And when the pull down menu comes up, there's three choices that a donor can make and maintenance is one of them.

2146
03:24:17,440 --> 03:24:27,880
The other two are enhancements or programming. And so we will honor that tiered system through a very easy to manage database and we're able to vet all our questions by the city and

2147
03:24:27,880 --> 03:24:32,940
County of San Francisco and they were incredible in talking us through our

2148
03:24:32,940 --> 03:24:37,580
concerns, lessons learned, feasibility, and this trial of setting up this new

2149
03:24:37,580 --> 03:24:41,520
platform is at no cost to the city. We initially interviewed the vendor that

2150
03:24:41,520 --> 03:24:45,680
San Francisco uses. We received a quote we weren't quite comfortable with and so

2151
03:24:45,680 --> 03:24:50,580
actually Ken and Jalisa interviewed our current vendor NUMO who does our sales

2152
03:24:50,580 --> 03:24:56,480
tax and they were able to develop something at no cost. And so we're really

2153
03:24:56,480 --> 03:25:02,600
hoping that that platform will be available by an evening at Carter Park the night before

2154
03:25:02,600 --> 03:25:07,880
summer's end. But it's all systems go, but we're not quite sure if it will be ready.

2155
03:25:08,320 --> 03:25:13,200
Regardless, folks can be given a QR code that will take them to a landing page if City Council

2156
03:25:13,200 --> 03:25:17,460
approves this donor policy so that they'll have options to donate that night and beyond.

2157
03:25:17,800 --> 03:25:22,220
But we're excited to try the new platform. And if it gets legs, we could potentially use

2158
03:25:22,220 --> 03:25:26,540
it for other projects too, we're just using Carter Park donations as a proof of concept.

2159
03:25:27,420 --> 03:25:34,340
Okay, I mean, like I said, I just, I know how a campaign it can be, if you set up a fund,

2160
03:25:34,780 --> 03:25:40,080
you need it, it's like, right, but just I'd like us to make sure it's there.

2161
03:25:40,160 --> 03:25:43,900
And then one last thing, interesting, you put a term limit.

2162
03:25:44,080 --> 03:25:51,860
So if I gave $25,000, I'm only good for, was that five years or maybe it's a little, eight years?

2163
03:25:53,780 --> 03:25:58,380
I don't know, maybe that's the going rate for a plaque now, is that we do that?

2164
03:25:58,420 --> 03:26:07,620
Well, we did extensive research on this as well just to make sure that we were offering something substantial for

2165
03:26:07,620 --> 03:26:16,200
the donor but not to make that donation in perpetuity and they would have their plaque or name there forever.

2166
03:26:16,900 --> 03:26:20,020
And also to allow other folks to continue donating.

2167
03:26:20,020 --> 03:26:24,740
And this is what we've discovered some other entities do as far as

2168
03:26:24,740 --> 03:26:29,880
I mean, that's typical and donors are used to that.

2169
03:26:30,260 --> 03:26:43,380
There are some that are, but I think what we found, some of the ones that are longer recognition are the smaller sort of the pavers or something like that that are smaller and easier to maintain.

2170
03:26:44,520 --> 03:26:45,640
I don't know if they'll will.

2171
03:26:46,120 --> 03:26:48,640
Yeah, but we also don't have as many.

2172
03:26:48,640 --> 03:26:58,900
If you look at a place like the library, there were so many rooms, areas, sections, for more naming opportunities without trying to look to cluttered.

2173
03:26:59,220 --> 03:27:04,200
We have the succulent rooftop garden, we have the stage, we didn't really have a lot of interest near the bathrooms.

2174
03:27:05,560 --> 03:27:13,700
And so we just wanted to have give council flexibility if ten years into the future that that could be revisited instead of no term limit.

2175
03:27:16,900 --> 03:27:35,400
So besides the maintenance how are you going to sequester donated funds for specific purposes just to make sure assure the public that the money that they're giving will be applied at the intended purpose and not co mingled with general funds or other stuff.

2176
03:27:35,400 --> 03:27:42,920
Yeah, when we, when Ken and I met with NUMO, which is the online vendor for the online donation,

2177
03:27:44,160 --> 03:27:49,000
they specified that they could break it down for us if we received donations like Karen said there

2178
03:27:49,000 --> 03:27:55,460
will be a drop-down menu so when you log in or you go into the portal, you can select your donation for programming

2179
03:27:55,460 --> 03:27:58,460
and we'll have a brief description of what that entails,

2180
03:27:58,460 --> 03:28:02,500
C.D. sponsor events or classes or recreation and programming.

2181
03:28:03,340 --> 03:28:08,620
And when the company provides the monthly report to Ken,

2182
03:28:08,780 --> 03:28:13,260
we'll know X amount of dollars were donated toward programming,

2183
03:28:13,560 --> 03:28:18,120
X amount went towards maintenance, X amount went to park enhancements.

2184
03:28:18,240 --> 03:28:20,100
And so that's how we will track it on our end.

2185
03:28:20,500 --> 03:28:23,220
And it will be similar to the maintenance fund.

2186
03:28:24,340 --> 03:28:25,640
And so it will stay there.

2187
03:28:25,640 --> 03:28:31,920
We just want to make sure that we're not coming from yeah, we asked San Francisco that question as well

2188
03:28:31,920 --> 03:28:40,140
And the way they addressed it was they set up separate charter accounts and then donors select which fund or we have three choices for them within

2189
03:28:40,140 --> 03:28:45,920
Carter Park how they want to give and then the donation goes to accounting and it gets reconciled and then

2190
03:28:46,560 --> 03:28:50,920
Monthly reports are generated so at any given time we can give updates on said funds

2191
03:29:00,320 --> 03:29:01,900
recommendation. Yes. I

2192
03:29:05,380 --> 03:29:09,320
worked with Paulette over the weekend about the list and we looked at your

2193
03:29:09,320 --> 03:29:14,660
your guys original list and then we came up with a modified list if you got in that list.

2194
03:29:15,120 --> 03:29:18,840
Yes. Okay. I'd like to make sure that we utilize that list.

2195
03:29:27,260 --> 03:29:29,120
Date then. No. No direction.

2196
03:29:35,300 --> 03:29:38,680
I can. I'm having computer troubles. That's why I can't call it.

2197
03:29:38,680 --> 03:29:42,360
I, uh, well, is there any members from the public? There we go.

2198
03:29:43,780 --> 03:29:44,220
Yeah,

2199
03:29:46,700 --> 03:29:49,160
I will, but I wanted to see the recommendation first.

2200
03:29:49,800 --> 03:29:52,800
So is there anyone in the audience would like to address the donor program?

2201
03:29:54,120 --> 03:29:59,540
Is there anyone online who would like to address the proposed donor program for Carter Park?

2202
03:30:01,170 --> 03:30:22,190
Seeing none, I'll bring it back for any further discussion or motion. I'm ready to do the motion that we adopt a resolution approving an update to the donor recognition and naming program for Carter Park. Replacing the policy adopted on June 7th, 2022 with the Carter Park donor and sponsorship policy.

2203
03:30:24,300 --> 03:30:24,980
Second.

2204
03:30:27,220 --> 03:30:34,120
Roll call, please. Councilmember Brownstone. Yes. Councilmember Johnson. Yes. Councilmember

2205
03:30:34,120 --> 03:30:41,200
I remember nagging asked yes mayor reddick yes motion carries. Thank you. Thank you for an excellent report

2206
03:30:44,370 --> 03:30:47,070
So item 12 any

2207
03:30:48,050 --> 03:30:50,810
future agenda items people want to recommend

2208
03:30:52,330 --> 03:31:00,440
Seeing none any city council reports seeing none we

2209
03:31:02,650 --> 03:31:04,430
can adjourn this meeting. Thank you