1 00:00:00,390 --> 00:00:02,160 Of our local building authority. 2 00:00:02,550 --> 00:00:03,990 So we'll proceed. 3 00:00:04,990 --> 00:00:07,310 Oh I I see a flag inbound. 4 00:00:07,430 --> 00:00:08,560 As we speak. 5 00:00:10,710 --> 00:00:12,670 We can do normal procedure it looks like. 6 00:00:12,830 --> 00:00:13,510 There it comes. 7 00:00:51,660 --> 00:00:52,460 Thank you for the. 8 00:00:58,660 --> 00:00:59,380 I think that's. 9 00:00:59,580 --> 00:01:02,340 Left side of the. 10 00:01:03,220 --> 00:01:04,060 Always turn this way. 11 00:01:21,590 --> 00:01:22,590 Post colors. 12 00:02:06,490 --> 00:02:07,930 I hope it all stay up there, yeah. 13 00:02:10,170 --> 00:02:12,330 We don't pledge allegiance to that one anyway. 14 00:02:15,990 --> 00:02:16,390 All right. 15 00:02:30,340 --> 00:02:32,180 Video some repair work on that one. 16 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:46,960 OK. 17 00:02:49,640 --> 00:02:54,590 We'll call the meeting of the City Council to order. As always, let's rise and we'll. 18 00:02:54,740 --> 00:02:55,820 The Pledge of Allegiance. 19 00:03:00,020 --> 00:03:02,100 I pledge allegiance to the flag. 20 00:03:02,540 --> 00:03:04,340 Of the United States of America. 21 00:03:04,980 --> 00:03:07,700 And to the Republic for which it stands. 22 00:03:08,140 --> 00:03:10,100 One nation under God. 23 00:03:10,500 --> 00:03:13,780 Indivisible with liberty and justice for all. 24 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:18,800 OK, welcome to. 25 00:03:20,650 --> 00:03:21,870 City Hall West. 26 00:03:22,940 --> 00:03:26,860 Or Holiday in Mill Creek. That sounds like a Marilyn Monroe movie title. 27 00:03:28,740 --> 00:03:29,900 And let's proceed with. 28 00:03:31,740 --> 00:03:33,380 Item number three, public comment. 29 00:03:34,100 --> 00:03:39,700 If you wish to address the Council, we invite you to do so. Just come up to the podium, state your name and address. 30 00:03:40,100 --> 00:03:43,260 Please keep your comments to 3 minutes if you can, or less. 31 00:03:44,710 --> 00:03:46,670 Oh no, no, this is a regular City Council meeting. 32 00:03:46,820 --> 00:03:47,460 And then we'll. 33 00:03:47,620 --> 00:03:48,300 I think. 34 00:03:51,300 --> 00:03:52,700 We are doing LBA first. 35 00:03:53,300 --> 00:03:57,020 I thought we'd just do like through #4 and then go to LBA. 36 00:03:58,490 --> 00:03:59,010 But. 37 00:04:00,180 --> 00:04:01,060 LBA OK. 38 00:04:01,460 --> 00:04:03,020 OK, so let's do LBA then. 39 00:04:03,730 --> 00:04:05,330 Which is also public comment. 40 00:04:06,550 --> 00:04:10,190 OK, so the the LBA is our local building authority. 41 00:04:10,580 --> 00:04:15,940 And the LBA, just like our RDA board, consists of the City Council. 42 00:04:16,340 --> 00:04:17,660 The LBA boards. 43 00:04:18,900 --> 00:04:21,180 Mandate is to manage the. 44 00:04:22,300 --> 00:04:24,700 The building authority for the project. 45 00:04:24,820 --> 00:04:25,780 That's going on. 46 00:04:26,420 --> 00:04:27,180 Other City Hall. 47 00:04:29,500 --> 00:04:32,260 But for this meeting as well, we have public comment. 48 00:04:32,740 --> 00:04:34,020 You can make them now. 49 00:04:34,540 --> 00:04:37,340 Or when we this meeting should be pretty quick if you'd rather have your public comment and be part of regular City Council 50 00:04:37,340 --> 00:04:40,140 meeting. 51 00:04:40,380 --> 00:04:41,700 Meeting that'll be probably in about. 52 00:04:42,420 --> 00:04:43,260 4 minutes. 53 00:04:43,780 --> 00:04:45,540 So that said. 54 00:04:46,020 --> 00:04:48,100 For the local building authority meeting. 55 00:04:48,820 --> 00:04:49,900 Public comment is open. 56 00:04:53,690 --> 00:04:56,230 Are there any who wish to address the local building authority? 57 00:04:57,730 --> 00:04:59,630 Seeing none, we'll close public comment. 58 00:04:59,740 --> 00:05:01,260 And move to item number 3. 59 00:05:01,900 --> 00:05:03,380 Of the LBA agenda. 60 00:05:03,620 --> 00:05:04,660 Public hearing. 61 00:05:05,380 --> 00:05:09,500 On the fiscal year 202526 budget amendments. 62 00:05:10,350 --> 00:05:12,470 So we'll open the public hearing. 63 00:05:13,020 --> 00:05:13,820 On the budget. 64 00:05:14,500 --> 00:05:15,220 Amendments. Uh. 65 00:05:16,140 --> 00:05:17,820 Are there any here to address? 66 00:05:18,100 --> 00:05:21,180 Of the Council with regard to. 67 00:05:21,220 --> 00:05:23,190 Budget amendments for the local building authority. 68 00:05:25,540 --> 00:05:26,260 Shocking. 69 00:05:28,220 --> 00:05:33,060 OK, seeing none, we'll close the public hearing on the LBA budget amendments. 70 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,550 And move to item number 4 resolution. 71 00:05:38,260 --> 00:05:40,100 Adopting the budget amendments. 72 00:05:40,540 --> 00:05:41,660 Is there any discussion? 73 00:05:41,780 --> 00:05:42,460 Or, umm. 74 00:05:42,820 --> 00:05:44,300 Christian, did you need to address that? 75 00:05:48,890 --> 00:05:53,830 Good evening, Mayor and Council. This is a very straightforward amendment. It is just recognizing the fact that. 76 00:05:54,060 --> 00:05:55,260 The 2025. 77 00:05:55,740 --> 00:06:02,260 LBA budget, we issued 2025 bonds for the project and this is just us recognizing the transfer in. 78 00:06:02,500 --> 00:06:07,620 From the general fund and then also the expense of the debt service for interest for that 2025 bond. 79 00:06:07,900 --> 00:06:10,540 The 2026 debt service payment will be roughly. 80 00:06:10,820 --> 00:06:14,540 Double this, maybe a little more, but this is just for a portion of the year that is. 81 00:06:14,620 --> 00:06:15,780 That we had the bond. 82 00:06:16,620 --> 00:06:17,580 For 2026. 83 00:06:19,070 --> 00:06:19,710 Any questions? 84 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:22,270 Thank you. 85 00:06:22,380 --> 00:06:22,780 Thank you. 86 00:06:24,370 --> 00:06:27,110 Any comments or questions? Otherwise, I'm happy to take a motion. 87 00:06:34,810 --> 00:06:36,750 Mr. Mayor, motion that we approve. 88 00:06:37,460 --> 00:06:38,220 Can you pull that up? 89 00:06:38,340 --> 00:06:40,070 Stephanie, so we can get the number on that? 90 00:06:46,510 --> 00:06:47,910 LBA Resolution. 91 00:06:48,020 --> 00:06:50,100 202601. 92 00:06:51,280 --> 00:06:51,840 2nd. 93 00:06:52,890 --> 00:06:54,770 OK, we have a motion and a second. 94 00:06:56,980 --> 00:06:58,820 Let's go to roll combo with the. 95 00:06:59,540 --> 00:07:00,340 Member. 96 00:07:00,420 --> 00:07:03,260 Of course, one of our direct director right, our trustee. 97 00:07:04,390 --> 00:07:04,990 OK. 98 00:07:06,980 --> 00:07:07,940 Trustee Sewell. 99 00:07:08,500 --> 00:07:09,020 Yes. 100 00:07:09,380 --> 00:07:10,620 And Trustee. 101 00:07:10,740 --> 00:07:11,300 Yes. 102 00:07:11,420 --> 00:07:12,020 And. 103 00:07:12,100 --> 00:07:14,300 Trustee Bradley. 104 00:07:14,380 --> 00:07:14,940 Yes. 105 00:07:15,060 --> 00:07:16,940 Trustee Quinn? Yes. Trustee Gray. 106 00:07:17,140 --> 00:07:17,620 Yes. 107 00:07:17,700 --> 00:07:18,820 And share votes yes. 108 00:07:19,060 --> 00:07:19,580 Thank you. 109 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:22,960 All right, item number 5. 110 00:07:23,380 --> 00:07:27,860 Regarding the minutes of the LBA for September 8th and October 2nd and November 6th. 111 00:07:28,830 --> 00:07:29,830 Happy to take a motion. 112 00:07:30,340 --> 00:07:31,580 Mayor, I approve. 113 00:07:32,460 --> 00:07:34,660 I move for the approval of the minutes. 114 00:07:35,740 --> 00:07:38,460 Of September 18th, October 2nd and November 6th. 115 00:07:38,860 --> 00:07:39,940 2025. 116 00:07:40,060 --> 00:07:42,220 2nd I have a motion to a second. 117 00:07:43,180 --> 00:07:44,020 All those in favor. 118 00:07:44,860 --> 00:07:44,980 Aye. 119 00:07:45,460 --> 00:07:46,140 Any opposed? 120 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:49,270 Thank you very much. The minutes are approved. 121 00:07:49,660 --> 00:07:51,900 And I'll need a motion to adjourn and. 122 00:07:52,700 --> 00:07:55,780 And then also to reconvene in a City Council meeting. 123 00:07:56,220 --> 00:07:56,940 So. 124 00:08:00,300 --> 00:08:01,940 Second. OK, all in favor. 125 00:08:02,460 --> 00:08:03,820 Aye, any opposed? 126 00:08:04,020 --> 00:08:07,350 Like you were adjourned and reconvened in a City Council meeting. 127 00:08:07,620 --> 00:08:10,750 And now what you've been waiting for, I think perhaps. 128 00:08:11,340 --> 00:08:13,580 We'll go to item number 3, which is public comment. 129 00:08:14,740 --> 00:08:15,460 Please. 130 00:08:16,540 --> 00:08:17,380 If you wish to make. 131 00:08:18,100 --> 00:08:21,300 Comment to the Council. Please come to the podium with your name and address and. 132 00:08:21,620 --> 00:08:22,710 Let us know what's on your mind. 133 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,510 Oh yes, Trudy is here from the library please. 134 00:08:29,700 --> 00:08:30,660 That was how it's done. 135 00:08:31,420 --> 00:08:32,940 I'm Trudy from the library. 136 00:08:33,300 --> 00:08:38,580 I just wanted to let you know, the tax season's over. Yay. And we had, we made just short of 900 appointments for people to have 137 00:08:38,580 --> 00:08:43,860 help with their taxes at the library. So that was awesome. Wow. 138 00:08:45,180 --> 00:08:46,220 Tomorrow. 139 00:08:46,420 --> 00:08:47,980 We will have an. 140 00:08:48,220 --> 00:08:54,940 In conjunction with America 250 celebrations, we're going to be doing oral history, so we'll have our sound studio set up. 141 00:08:55,060 --> 00:08:59,220 People can come in with their own memory device, like a thumb drive. 142 00:08:59,300 --> 00:09:03,305 And we'll have staff there and available to help them record their own oral history if they would like to. And if tomorrow doesn't 143 00:09:03,305 --> 00:09:07,310 work for people then? 144 00:09:07,420 --> 00:09:10,030 Just make an appointment with a librarian and we'll be happy to help. 145 00:09:11,100 --> 00:09:15,420 On the 29th of April, we're going to have an all abilities activity at 10:30 in the morning. 146 00:09:15,900 --> 00:09:16,940 There will be crafts. 147 00:09:17,020 --> 00:09:20,660 And bingo for adults and teens with intellectual disabilities. 148 00:09:21,500 --> 00:09:24,700 Um and then on May 1st. 149 00:09:25,820 --> 00:09:29,260 At 10:15 there's going to be a Dia de Los Ninos Y libros. 150 00:09:29,340 --> 00:09:30,580 Face painting treats. 151 00:09:31,300 --> 00:09:32,300 Lots of fun. 152 00:09:33,740 --> 00:09:35,820 And then on Monday, May 4th. 153 00:09:36,020 --> 00:09:40,900 From 3:00 to 5:00 will be Maker Monday and you can come in and make your own monster bookmark. 154 00:09:41,020 --> 00:09:41,940 In our space. 155 00:09:43,050 --> 00:09:46,150 And that's what's going on at the library right now. Do you have any questions? 156 00:09:46,260 --> 00:09:48,740 That's for me. Thank you so much. 157 00:09:48,980 --> 00:09:49,540 Thank you. 158 00:09:52,730 --> 00:09:53,990 Public comment remains open. 159 00:09:54,100 --> 00:09:55,420 For any wish to address the Council. 160 00:10:01,560 --> 00:10:02,390 Good evening. 161 00:10:02,500 --> 00:10:03,900 Hi, Tom Sharlow. 162 00:10:04,260 --> 00:10:06,780 3930 S. 3030 E. 163 00:10:08,530 --> 00:10:10,790 We spoke with you I think a couple of months ago. 164 00:10:11,500 --> 00:10:12,100 About the. 165 00:10:12,820 --> 00:10:18,740 Difficulty we had with the previous season's fireworks that were exploding all over our. 166 00:10:19,100 --> 00:10:22,820 Cul-de-sac with the high winds that we're experiencing. 167 00:10:23,220 --> 00:10:23,740 It was a. 168 00:10:25,780 --> 00:10:27,100 It was not a fun night. 169 00:10:28,300 --> 00:10:33,100 I realized at the time, and we've been told since there's things that we could have done to possibly prevent it, like. 170 00:10:33,420 --> 00:10:35,100 Stand there with a sprinkler. 171 00:10:36,220 --> 00:10:36,980 Pointed. 172 00:10:37,820 --> 00:10:39,260 At the fireworks. 173 00:10:39,500 --> 00:10:41,700 But we just want to make it very clear that. 174 00:10:42,060 --> 00:10:44,060 These fireworks that have been legal. 175 00:10:45,020 --> 00:10:46,580 I guess five years or so now. 176 00:10:47,820 --> 00:10:50,300 Or just have no place in our neighborhoods. 177 00:10:50,980 --> 00:10:56,980 They create circumstances where one neighbor fears for their house and the other neighbor. 178 00:10:57,060 --> 00:10:58,300 Thinks it's a great thing. 179 00:10:59,870 --> 00:11:02,150 As we mentioned before, we had. 180 00:11:03,900 --> 00:11:07,780 Hundreds of thousands of sparks that you could hear landing on our. 181 00:11:08,220 --> 00:11:08,900 On our roof. 182 00:11:09,940 --> 00:11:11,260 Against our windows. 183 00:11:11,900 --> 00:11:14,140 We had high winds that night which made. 184 00:11:14,820 --> 00:11:17,420 Way more inappropriate than it already was. 185 00:11:18,370 --> 00:11:19,150 We just want to. 186 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:20,950 Continue to. 187 00:11:21,500 --> 00:11:23,980 State our feelings about this. 188 00:11:24,300 --> 00:11:25,860 Frankly, I think if the. 189 00:11:27,090 --> 00:11:29,310 If the people that made those fireworks. 190 00:11:29,420 --> 00:11:31,620 Weren't maybe involved in. 191 00:11:34,950 --> 00:11:35,790 Trying to. 192 00:11:36,020 --> 00:11:36,820 Have more? 193 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:39,630 Business with. 194 00:11:39,740 --> 00:11:40,940 With our neighbors. 195 00:11:41,780 --> 00:11:43,100 You know, you see these. 196 00:11:43,340 --> 00:11:44,780 Huge tents set up. 197 00:11:45,180 --> 00:11:47,220 For the whole month of July, if not more. 198 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:49,230 Selling these. 199 00:11:49,660 --> 00:11:52,660 So what I will say about fireworks. One more thing though is that. 200 00:11:53,060 --> 00:11:55,460 The fireworks that we did have before these. 201 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:57,990 Nearly professional level. 202 00:11:58,100 --> 00:11:58,980 Fireworks, uh. 203 00:11:59,660 --> 00:12:01,180 Were put upon us. 204 00:12:01,300 --> 00:12:03,620 By our legislature, I believe. 205 00:12:04,660 --> 00:12:06,740 The fireworks that we had before that were. 206 00:12:08,430 --> 00:12:09,830 Were fairly benign. 207 00:12:10,300 --> 00:12:11,420 The little kids they. 208 00:12:11,860 --> 00:12:15,900 They enjoy lighting them off and they would go up maybe 6 to 10 feet. 209 00:12:16,020 --> 00:12:16,620 And that's it. 210 00:12:16,860 --> 00:12:18,260 The ones that we see now. 211 00:12:18,700 --> 00:12:20,300 Are fully in the sky. 212 00:12:23,820 --> 00:12:26,380 And they're just very inappropriate in neighbors. 213 00:12:26,540 --> 00:12:28,220 In neighborhoods especially. 214 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:30,550 With the drought we're experiencing. 215 00:12:30,900 --> 00:12:31,620 With. 216 00:12:34,580 --> 00:12:36,380 The fire that took place. 217 00:12:36,780 --> 00:12:38,300 Around July 4th. 218 00:12:38,460 --> 00:12:39,900 In Mill Creek. 219 00:12:40,380 --> 00:12:41,020 Which was? 220 00:12:41,140 --> 00:12:43,020 Tragic for so many people. 221 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:47,430 Anyway, thank you very much. 222 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:49,470 We appreciate what you do. 223 00:12:49,740 --> 00:12:50,340 Thank you. 224 00:12:55,670 --> 00:12:58,190 OK, public comment remains open. Anyone else? 225 00:12:59,950 --> 00:13:02,030 OK. Thank you. We'll close public comment. 226 00:13:03,470 --> 00:13:05,150 And proceed to item number 4. 227 00:13:06,460 --> 00:13:10,580 Regarding the parking agreement adjacent Spring Lane. 228 00:13:10,780 --> 00:13:11,580 Did we have a? 229 00:13:11,940 --> 00:13:15,100 Any staff report or any other comments or? 230 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:18,390 We don't have a staff report. 231 00:13:18,500 --> 00:13:22,340 Or if you have questions though, we'd be happy to answer them. 232 00:13:23,270 --> 00:13:27,510 And I know that we've had discussions about this is the the parking agreement. 233 00:13:27,700 --> 00:13:29,860 Between the LDS church. 234 00:13:30,740 --> 00:13:32,660 Adjacent to Spring Lane. 235 00:13:34,140 --> 00:13:36,500 And our opportunity to. 236 00:13:36,580 --> 00:13:37,900 To continue that. 237 00:13:38,340 --> 00:13:41,300 Agreement that the Granite School District had. 238 00:13:42,300 --> 00:13:44,540 With that church building. 239 00:13:44,900 --> 00:13:47,500 That agreement is now being extended to the city. 240 00:13:47,620 --> 00:13:51,380 As the city has now acquired that property, of course, for the development of. 241 00:13:52,500 --> 00:13:55,140 There was an issue that. 242 00:13:55,260 --> 00:14:00,020 I presume was resolved adequately with regard to it was a liability or a. 243 00:14:00,820 --> 00:14:02,780 Indemnification that there was. 244 00:14:02,980 --> 00:14:04,740 Over overstepped a bit and. 245 00:14:04,940 --> 00:14:06,620 But we've got that resolved, apparently. 246 00:14:07,020 --> 00:14:07,540 OK. 247 00:14:09,060 --> 00:14:11,900 I don't have any further questions. Anyone else have any questions or concerns? 248 00:14:12,780 --> 00:14:14,380 OK. Otherwise I'm happy to take a motion. 249 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:18,870 Stephanie, can we go back? 250 00:14:19,020 --> 00:14:19,940 Get that number. 251 00:14:20,300 --> 00:14:21,260 Mr. Mayor. 252 00:14:23,020 --> 00:14:25,700 OK, Mr. Mayor, motion that we approve resolution. 253 00:14:26,060 --> 00:14:27,900 2026-10. 254 00:14:31,100 --> 00:14:31,700 2nd. 255 00:14:32,420 --> 00:14:33,420 OK. Is that adequate? 256 00:14:33,620 --> 00:14:35,100 Just with the number. OK, very good. 257 00:14:35,900 --> 00:14:38,260 OK, Thanks very much, Councilmember Gray. 258 00:14:38,420 --> 00:14:40,100 Yes, Councilmember Quinn. 259 00:14:40,300 --> 00:14:44,860 Yes. Councilmember Bradley, Yes, Councilmember Durham, yes. And Councillor Sunbol, Yes. 260 00:14:45,020 --> 00:14:46,860 And share votes. Yes. Thank you. 261 00:14:47,540 --> 00:14:49,500 OK, let's proceed to City Manager report. Thanks. 262 00:14:57,100 --> 00:15:02,070 It's a much longer walk to get over here than it is in our regular building. 263 00:15:03,220 --> 00:15:05,060 Good evening, Mayor and Council. 264 00:15:05,140 --> 00:15:06,300 I have. 265 00:15:08,260 --> 00:15:11,980 Actually, mainly good news to share tonight. 266 00:15:12,820 --> 00:15:19,020 1st, I want to alert all of you to a conversation that several staff. 267 00:15:19,220 --> 00:15:20,660 And I had. 268 00:15:20,780 --> 00:15:23,980 This afternoon with representatives from. 269 00:15:24,940 --> 00:15:25,820 Udot. 270 00:15:26,860 --> 00:15:30,660 Who told us that we are. We have been prioritized. 271 00:15:31,620 --> 00:15:36,260 Our trail project along 215 from 23rd East. 272 00:15:36,580 --> 00:15:41,620 To Highland Dr. has been prioritized as part of the Utah Trail Network. 273 00:15:42,380 --> 00:15:44,060 For the next. 274 00:15:44,460 --> 00:15:48,340 State fiscal year, so for fiscal year 2627. 275 00:15:49,060 --> 00:15:55,660 That will be submitted as a recommendation from the staff level to the Transportation Commission. 276 00:15:56,020 --> 00:16:01,340 And we're looking for approval of that funding recommendation by the end of June. 277 00:16:02,020 --> 00:16:08,180 If that recommendation is successful, design could start as early as. 278 00:16:08,260 --> 00:16:09,260 This summer. 279 00:16:09,660 --> 00:16:11,540 On that section of trail. 280 00:16:12,580 --> 00:16:22,180 The funding that is would support that project is a little different. You may recall that we applied unsuccessfully for funding. 281 00:16:22,300 --> 00:16:24,740 For that same stretch through WFRC. 282 00:16:25,700 --> 00:16:30,620 That section would have that opportunity would have required a match. 283 00:16:31,180 --> 00:16:32,940 On the cities part. 284 00:16:33,860 --> 00:16:36,700 This funding source would require no match. 285 00:16:37,740 --> 00:16:42,700 There are some project expenses that they may consider a betterment that we may. 286 00:16:42,860 --> 00:16:48,020 Wish to provide ourselves but that will all be sorted out in the design process. 287 00:16:48,620 --> 00:16:51,980 Since that's one of our trail priorities, that seems like. 288 00:16:52,100 --> 00:16:58,980 Really good news, and we'll keep you posted on that process as it works its way through the Transportation Commission. 289 00:16:59,660 --> 00:17:00,820 And then as we. 290 00:17:01,060 --> 00:17:02,700 Hopefully can get started. 291 00:17:03,140 --> 00:17:04,220 Later this summer. 292 00:17:04,340 --> 00:17:08,780 And you said from Highland Drive to 2300, we're doing that section first, OK, Yep. 293 00:17:08,860 --> 00:17:11,220 That's the section that they have prioritized. 294 00:17:12,100 --> 00:17:14,980 Honestly, based on our application to the WFRC. 295 00:17:15,580 --> 00:17:16,460 And this is. 296 00:17:17,970 --> 00:17:19,470 Does this tie into the? 297 00:17:19,980 --> 00:17:20,940 Potential design of. 298 00:17:22,210 --> 00:17:24,230 Path bottom of the highland. 299 00:17:24,750 --> 00:17:26,030 How I'm thinking of a different? 300 00:17:26,260 --> 00:17:30,960 It is a different one. This is a long 215. Eventually would like that to tie to Canuteson Park on the east and Big Cottonwood 301 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:35,660 Trail. 302 00:17:36,060 --> 00:17:40,940 And then eventually tie into a trail network that would. 303 00:17:41,060 --> 00:17:43,180 Provide access to Wheeler Farm. 304 00:17:44,220 --> 00:17:45,420 And also. 305 00:17:46,260 --> 00:17:49,300 Cottonwood Heights is proposing a section of trail that would. 306 00:17:49,460 --> 00:17:50,900 Across 215. 307 00:17:51,180 --> 00:17:53,380 And then go into their community as well. 308 00:17:55,830 --> 00:17:57,950 So that is exciting news. 309 00:17:59,700 --> 00:18:05,380 Wanted to make the council aware that Holly and Sean Tierlink and I had a. 310 00:18:06,300 --> 00:18:10,060 Really good meeting with staff representatives from Senator. 311 00:18:10,180 --> 00:18:12,220 Curtis's office a few weeks ago. 312 00:18:13,380 --> 00:18:19,340 To lay the groundwork as we apply for additional potential federal funding for Highland Drive. 313 00:18:22,020 --> 00:18:23,220 We'll see how that goes. 314 00:18:23,380 --> 00:18:24,700 Speaking of. 315 00:18:25,220 --> 00:18:26,500 Federal funding. 316 00:18:26,980 --> 00:18:30,500 As you probably all know, we are in your mark is. 317 00:18:30,580 --> 00:18:31,740 Still being held. 318 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:37,600 And we'll see where that ends up. 319 00:18:38,660 --> 00:18:40,660 I am no longer. 320 00:18:40,740 --> 00:18:44,780 Optimistic about it as a source of funding for our project. 321 00:18:45,060 --> 00:18:45,820 But we'll see. 322 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:55,400 Last night we had what I would characterize as a really successful open house for the Spring Lane project. 323 00:18:56,100 --> 00:18:59,780 We had a great turn out, I would say in excess of. 324 00:19:00,060 --> 00:19:01,900 40 ish people. 325 00:19:02,620 --> 00:19:03,380 Lots of. 326 00:19:03,460 --> 00:19:05,180 Passionate ideas. 327 00:19:08,020 --> 00:19:13,580 Divergent positions, but lots of really great energy from the crowd. 328 00:19:13,980 --> 00:19:17,060 And you'll have an opportunity to talk about. 329 00:19:17,500 --> 00:19:22,220 The feedback that they provided and then some further direction next week. 330 00:19:24,620 --> 00:19:29,300 There's a couple of leftover items from the Legislature. 331 00:19:29,380 --> 00:19:30,140 Having to do with. 332 00:19:30,220 --> 00:19:31,500 State holidays. 333 00:19:31,980 --> 00:19:32,780 One thing that. 334 00:19:32,860 --> 00:19:37,220 I had missed in the session is that the legislature did a. 335 00:19:37,740 --> 00:19:41,100 Approve the alignment of Juneteenth. 336 00:19:41,300 --> 00:19:42,990 With the federal holiday. 337 00:19:43,460 --> 00:19:44,140 So. 338 00:19:44,580 --> 00:19:46,660 Going forward, it will always be I. 339 00:19:47,140 --> 00:19:48,140 June 19th. 340 00:19:50,130 --> 00:19:52,350 And our employee manual. 341 00:19:52,540 --> 00:19:55,300 Reflects we'll do whatever the state does. 342 00:19:55,580 --> 00:19:56,900 So don't know who. 343 00:19:57,300 --> 00:19:58,430 Change there. 344 00:19:58,700 --> 00:20:02,740 The state also approved an additional holiday. 345 00:20:03,940 --> 00:20:05,660 For state employees. 346 00:20:06,180 --> 00:20:07,740 For Good Friday. 347 00:20:08,100 --> 00:20:08,860 Although, uh. 348 00:20:08,980 --> 00:20:17,300 It looks like it will only be 1/2 day holiday. I want to find out a little bit more about what the state is recommending there. 349 00:20:17,700 --> 00:20:18,340 And then? 350 00:20:18,580 --> 00:20:23,180 Bring that to you as an issue for your consideration whether you want to align our. 351 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,400 Our employee handbook with that guidance. 352 00:20:26,890 --> 00:20:29,330 Or not. That'll be a decision for you. 353 00:20:31,130 --> 00:20:33,970 And then finally, I just wanted to recognize. 354 00:20:34,130 --> 00:20:35,530 We're here in this new building. 355 00:20:36,490 --> 00:20:38,290 Of a very successful move. 356 00:20:38,850 --> 00:20:42,330 And I want to publicly thank everyone who. 357 00:20:42,410 --> 00:20:44,010 Help to make that possible. 358 00:20:44,410 --> 00:20:50,730 All of our staff really contributed, but I want to highlight a couple of folks, especially we had a. 359 00:20:51,410 --> 00:20:53,970 Move team that was led by Joel. 360 00:20:54,330 --> 00:20:55,610 Joe Bolton. 361 00:20:55,810 --> 00:20:58,250 He really did a heavy lift. 362 00:20:59,010 --> 00:21:01,290 Stephanie Carlson coordinated. 363 00:21:02,050 --> 00:21:04,490 Utilities Tech. 364 00:21:05,250 --> 00:21:09,850 Internet service and appreciate the effort that they did. 365 00:21:10,410 --> 00:21:12,090 Lena, John. 366 00:21:12,810 --> 00:21:14,570 Christian and Holly. 367 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,120 Not forgetting anyone. That's the tube, right? Oh, and me. 368 00:21:20,010 --> 00:21:23,170 We were the group that coordinated with that. 369 00:21:24,290 --> 00:21:31,780 And on the court side, both Kaylin Olsen and Judge Chen were here on Thursday. 370 00:21:32,170 --> 00:21:34,250 Doing a lot of packing and moving as well. 371 00:21:34,410 --> 00:21:41,090 So appreciate everyone really coming together to make this happen and we're happy to be here. And. 372 00:21:41,490 --> 00:21:43,130 Can't wait to go home. 373 00:21:45,130 --> 00:21:46,250 Any questions for me? 374 00:21:48,050 --> 00:21:55,410 Well, I just after what you said, I mean, I witnessed a fair amount of this moving and it really was a tremendous project. 375 00:21:55,730 --> 00:21:58,090 And with a lot of work and. 376 00:21:59,170 --> 00:22:01,370 The fact that you know you're loading up. 377 00:22:01,490 --> 00:22:04,890 Truck Friday night at 6:00-ish up there. 378 00:22:04,970 --> 00:22:06,450 And to see the state. 379 00:22:06,530 --> 00:22:11,420 That we are in now to have our first Council meeting so quickly after the beginning of that move. 380 00:22:11,530 --> 00:22:13,490 I mean, it's one week and we're. 381 00:22:13,890 --> 00:22:15,530 This is the result of one week. 382 00:22:15,650 --> 00:22:16,810 In terms of the move. 383 00:22:17,130 --> 00:22:18,650 But yeah, tremendous effort. 384 00:22:18,730 --> 00:22:20,370 I thought that Joe and the team. 385 00:22:20,570 --> 00:22:21,410 Really. 386 00:22:21,530 --> 00:22:23,370 Well, the proof is. 387 00:22:23,450 --> 00:22:24,450 That we're here and. 388 00:22:24,530 --> 00:22:25,690 Having a council meeting. 389 00:22:26,170 --> 00:22:27,570 We're in a great facility and. 390 00:22:27,690 --> 00:22:29,050 We got a great deal so. 391 00:22:29,730 --> 00:22:30,970 Kudos to you and the staff. 392 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:37,480 OK, let's proceed with council reports. How about down at this end? 393 00:22:37,730 --> 00:22:41,380 Remember Greg, this morning I had the opportunity to visit with. 394 00:22:41,530 --> 00:22:44,530 The Bonneville Junior High Community Council. 395 00:22:45,690 --> 00:22:49,570 As a follow up from their meeting before there's real concern at Bonneville. 396 00:22:50,610 --> 00:22:51,890 The community. 397 00:22:53,410 --> 00:22:57,770 Tasked with approving the safe walking route and one of the safe walking routes for Bonneville. 398 00:22:58,530 --> 00:23:02,210 Says that it's safe for students unsupervised to cross. 399 00:23:02,690 --> 00:23:07,450 The intersection of his 5600 S and Van Winkle, which is A5 lane. 400 00:23:07,570 --> 00:23:08,410 Road we're. 401 00:23:08,530 --> 00:23:09,330 Cars are going. 402 00:23:09,850 --> 00:23:13,130 I mean, limited at 50 miles an hour, they're often going. 403 00:23:13,490 --> 00:23:19,300 More than that, you have a lot of very young drivers getting into Cottonwood High School. 404 00:23:20,570 --> 00:23:27,370 Something that I was made aware of in this meeting is that there are 270 students that attend Bonneville. 405 00:23:27,450 --> 00:23:28,690 That live. 406 00:23:28,810 --> 00:23:31,250 On the other side of that intersection. 407 00:23:32,530 --> 00:23:35,890 So the community council did not approve the safe walking route. 408 00:23:36,010 --> 00:23:37,250 Not that that really has. 409 00:23:37,330 --> 00:23:40,060 Any long term consequences? But they're really looking at. 410 00:23:40,370 --> 00:23:42,690 What we can do to make that? 411 00:23:43,130 --> 00:23:45,010 Routes safer for students? 412 00:23:46,690 --> 00:23:49,730 And reduce the congestion of driving in the neighborhood if we can make it more safe, because most parents end up just driving 413 00:23:49,730 --> 00:23:52,770 their kids. 414 00:23:53,330 --> 00:23:56,810 So one of the things that they're requesting from Holiday City is. 415 00:23:57,170 --> 00:23:59,450 To work with Murray City and get. 416 00:23:59,930 --> 00:24:01,410 Some crossing guards. 417 00:24:02,290 --> 00:24:07,930 They're, I mean, they want, they would love an elevated footpath and I thought that was a little too heavy lift. 418 00:24:09,530 --> 00:24:12,050 But I think looking at getting crossing guards. 419 00:24:12,210 --> 00:24:14,970 Where we split the costs with Murray City. 420 00:24:15,410 --> 00:24:17,170 Is something that I think we. 421 00:24:17,290 --> 00:24:20,810 Could really look into it. It really is not a safe intersection. 422 00:24:20,890 --> 00:24:22,490 For these kids. 423 00:24:22,690 --> 00:24:25,490 For all of the reasons that I mentioned, is that something that I would? 424 00:24:25,610 --> 00:24:28,810 Love it it's that we we could look into as a city and. 425 00:24:28,930 --> 00:24:30,850 And obviously work with Murray City to. 426 00:24:30,930 --> 00:24:31,930 What the costs on that? 427 00:24:36,350 --> 00:24:37,620 I don't have anything tonight. 428 00:24:38,090 --> 00:24:39,370 OK. That's member Bradley. 429 00:24:39,490 --> 00:24:40,770 I don't have anything tonight. 430 00:24:41,170 --> 00:24:42,090 Councilmember Durham. 431 00:24:42,790 --> 00:24:45,150 Just a reminder about our Harvard. 432 00:24:45,290 --> 00:24:47,810 Day event on a week from Friday at. 433 00:24:48,540 --> 00:24:50,220 Wasatch, Waldorf School. 434 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:52,120 That's all. 435 00:24:53,360 --> 00:24:53,900 Council. 436 00:24:54,290 --> 00:24:55,140 I don't have anything. 437 00:24:55,450 --> 00:25:00,730 OK, I'll have one thing I'll defer to Councilmember Gray if you wanted to chat about. 438 00:25:01,810 --> 00:25:03,610 Chief Widdison of the HOA. 439 00:25:04,370 --> 00:25:05,450 Oh yes. 440 00:25:06,890 --> 00:25:09,050 So Chief Woodson and I had the opportunity to. 441 00:25:09,130 --> 00:25:11,370 Speak at the. 442 00:25:12,570 --> 00:25:14,050 Canyon Cove, HOA. 443 00:25:15,290 --> 00:25:15,890 About. 444 00:25:16,010 --> 00:25:17,130 The issues. 445 00:25:18,250 --> 00:25:19,930 With Holiday City directly. 446 00:25:20,330 --> 00:25:22,450 Relating to that particular neighborhood. 447 00:25:23,770 --> 00:25:26,970 And I talked a lot about Gina's excellent work. 448 00:25:27,970 --> 00:25:33,170 And ongoing work with UDOT and all other parties and trying to. 449 00:25:33,610 --> 00:25:37,850 Come to a more permanent resolution for the care of the park and ride that has. 450 00:25:38,290 --> 00:25:40,650 That deteriorated then. They were very grateful. 451 00:25:41,090 --> 00:25:41,730 For that. 452 00:25:42,090 --> 00:25:44,090 And also for our help in dealing with. 453 00:25:44,930 --> 00:25:47,850 A lot of the deaths that they were seeing from the construction site. 454 00:25:48,370 --> 00:25:52,090 Blowing directly into their neighborhood, Chief Woodson then also talked about. 455 00:25:52,570 --> 00:25:56,210 The WUI map and how that affects their neighborhood is very good at. 456 00:25:56,730 --> 00:25:59,850 Addressing their concerns and kind of helping them understand. 457 00:25:59,970 --> 00:26:00,570 What? Umm. 458 00:26:01,730 --> 00:26:04,210 What it means and what it doesn't mean as far as. 459 00:26:04,330 --> 00:26:05,170 For them so. 460 00:26:05,730 --> 00:26:06,850 Appreciate his efforts. 461 00:26:07,570 --> 00:26:08,130 Appreciate. 462 00:26:09,570 --> 00:26:12,050 Captain for setting that up and I think it was a good event. 463 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:17,040 Great. OK. And all my items have already been talked about, so. 464 00:26:17,490 --> 00:26:19,490 I have nothing beyond that so. 465 00:26:20,130 --> 00:26:21,930 I'll go ahead and take a motion to. 466 00:26:23,250 --> 00:26:25,130 Recess and reconvene. 467 00:26:26,060 --> 00:26:26,580 So moved. 468 00:26:27,610 --> 00:26:29,170 Second, all in favor? 469 00:26:29,650 --> 00:26:29,770 Aye. 470 00:26:30,570 --> 00:26:31,050 Any opposed? 471 00:26:31,650 --> 00:26:33,050 OK, we are in a work meeting. 472 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:39,020 Do you want us to stay in the seats we're in or are we moving seats or? 473 00:26:40,730 --> 00:26:41,330 Stay right. 474 00:26:46,340 --> 00:26:47,380 OK, very good. 475 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:51,140 All right, first item up. 476 00:26:52,090 --> 00:26:54,050 Is it Captain Dan? Are you doing this next part? 477 00:26:54,770 --> 00:26:55,810 OK, you're up. 478 00:27:03,110 --> 00:27:05,980 All right. Good evening, Mayor and Council, and thanks for having me. 479 00:27:06,330 --> 00:27:08,490 For a little UFA 101. 480 00:27:08,570 --> 00:27:10,370 So this is the first time I've done this one. 481 00:27:10,570 --> 00:27:13,810 So we'll see how it goes and hopefully it's not it's not too boring. 482 00:27:14,090 --> 00:27:15,130 So we'll start we. 483 00:27:15,250 --> 00:27:16,650 Clear the slides. Period. 484 00:27:16,930 --> 00:27:18,130 I guess we'll give it a second. 485 00:27:21,210 --> 00:27:22,250 I sent it to you. 486 00:27:24,330 --> 00:27:25,010 Oh, there he. 487 00:27:31,180 --> 00:27:37,220 OK. We'll start there. So just as the summary, we'll go to that second slide. So unified Fire authority. 488 00:27:37,330 --> 00:27:42,250 Where the where the state's largest fire department with almost 700 personnel and we have 26 stations. 489 00:27:42,370 --> 00:27:44,530 Ranging all the way from Immigration Canyon. 490 00:27:44,770 --> 00:27:49,660 All the way down to Eagle Mountain. Eagle Mountains the the lone city that we serve in in Utah County. 491 00:27:50,650 --> 00:27:51,650 The City of Holiday. 492 00:27:51,730 --> 00:27:53,210 Is to be a member of UFA. 493 00:27:53,490 --> 00:27:54,490 You can either be. 494 00:27:54,610 --> 00:27:58,930 A direct member, which the City of Holiday is, along with Riverton, Cottonwood Heights and Harriman. 495 00:27:59,170 --> 00:28:02,530 Or you can be a member of the Unified Fire Service Area or UFSA. 496 00:28:03,410 --> 00:28:07,370 Which is a taxing entity and we'll kind of go into that a little bit later on. 497 00:28:07,810 --> 00:28:09,210 The governance is made-up of a. 498 00:28:09,570 --> 00:28:10,370 Of a board of. 499 00:28:10,450 --> 00:28:12,170 Of 17, which is our. 500 00:28:12,290 --> 00:28:14,810 Our 15 municipalities and then the Salt Lake County. 501 00:28:15,170 --> 00:28:19,770 Two members or Mayor Fotheringham serves as the the chair of the board. 502 00:28:19,850 --> 00:28:23,410 And then of course you have your station 104 and we'll kind of go over that which. 503 00:28:24,410 --> 00:28:25,330 Delivers your. 504 00:28:25,410 --> 00:28:26,290 Your response? 505 00:28:26,410 --> 00:28:28,170 But then it it also benefits from being. 506 00:28:29,050 --> 00:28:31,010 From our regional infrastructure of. 507 00:28:31,690 --> 00:28:36,940 Of many specialties that we have from our wildland program to heavy rescue to hazmat and other things that. 508 00:28:37,090 --> 00:28:39,250 The benefits of a large organization has. 509 00:28:39,610 --> 00:28:42,010 So that's the summary and then we'll go on to the next slide. 510 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:54,780 OK, so this is kind of the. 511 00:28:54,890 --> 00:28:58,450 The history of UFA and kind of how we got to where we are from. 512 00:28:58,570 --> 00:29:02,330 From the city of holiday being a customer to a co-owner so. 513 00:29:02,930 --> 00:29:03,850 Traditionally, they. 514 00:29:04,730 --> 00:29:05,970 Most cities got their. 515 00:29:06,410 --> 00:29:08,130 Their Fire Protection from Salt Lake County. 516 00:29:08,250 --> 00:29:09,250 Fire Department. 517 00:29:09,330 --> 00:29:09,970 And then? 518 00:29:10,090 --> 00:29:13,650 As cities incorporated, they would contract with the Salt Lake County Fire Department. 519 00:29:13,770 --> 00:29:14,050 But. 520 00:29:14,170 --> 00:29:16,450 They were kind of a customer with no with no say. 521 00:29:16,610 --> 00:29:17,210 So. 522 00:29:17,570 --> 00:29:18,930 In 2004. 523 00:29:19,290 --> 00:29:20,810 Unified fire authority was. 524 00:29:20,890 --> 00:29:22,330 Was introduced. 525 00:29:22,610 --> 00:29:23,410 And. 526 00:29:23,530 --> 00:29:27,530 That way everybody has a say right now, everybody has someone on the board and everybody has a little bit of a more buying rather 527 00:29:27,530 --> 00:29:31,530 than just being a customer with no say. 528 00:29:31,650 --> 00:29:36,250 And then in 2019, Interlocal Agreement was refined to clarify member roles and governance. 529 00:29:36,490 --> 00:29:40,850 And then Holiday solidified his position as direct member and co-owner with the voting seat on the board of directors concerning 530 00:29:40,850 --> 00:29:45,210 direct oversight and strategic control over fire EMS services. 531 00:29:45,850 --> 00:29:49,130 So and that was in 219 for that and that's a 50 year in a local agreement. 532 00:29:50,390 --> 00:29:51,020 Next slide. 533 00:29:51,410 --> 00:29:53,570 So this is just kind of a slide right here that shows. 534 00:29:54,210 --> 00:29:57,750 That we have the one seat and that's Mayor Fotheringham at this time. So the primary decision making is is 1, but everybody gets a 535 00:29:57,750 --> 00:30:01,290 vote. 536 00:30:02,330 --> 00:30:03,730 But for financial? 537 00:30:04,250 --> 00:30:05,530 For the tentative budget. 538 00:30:05,610 --> 00:30:07,610 The final budget and budget amendments. 539 00:30:07,890 --> 00:30:08,930 Now if any 2. 540 00:30:09,570 --> 00:30:14,050 Two board members my of different entities so it can't just be the 2 Salt Lake County ones. 541 00:30:14,370 --> 00:30:15,890 They can invoke a weighted vote. 542 00:30:16,050 --> 00:30:20,410 And the way the weighted vote is is calculated as a as a combination of. 543 00:30:21,610 --> 00:30:23,770 The budget and population. 544 00:30:24,970 --> 00:30:29,500 I would like to point out that that's never been invoked, so as long as unified Fire authority has been around. 545 00:30:29,690 --> 00:30:32,050 It has never been invoked the the weighted vote. 546 00:30:32,090 --> 00:30:34,810 The next slide does kind of show where holiday ranks and the weighted voting. 547 00:30:35,670 --> 00:30:37,540 So right there you can see. 548 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:44,340 6.5% of the population and 4.33% of member fees, so they would have a 5.43%. 549 00:30:44,570 --> 00:30:46,650 If anybody did invoke the. 550 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:54,260 So right here, so there's among the Unified Fire Authority board. 551 00:30:54,650 --> 00:30:59,570 There is 3 board subcommittees of the Finance Committee of the Governance Committee and the Benefits and Comp Committee. 552 00:30:59,890 --> 00:31:00,530 So. 553 00:31:00,610 --> 00:31:02,050 And I know there's been some changes. 554 00:31:02,210 --> 00:31:05,690 But Mayor Fotheringham, you're on the benefits and cop and finance both, correct, right? 555 00:31:05,770 --> 00:31:09,650 So there has there has been some changes with the election. So the Finance Committee, the mandate is. 556 00:31:09,730 --> 00:31:13,090 You know they conduct granular line by line reviews of the proposed budget. 557 00:31:13,610 --> 00:31:18,330 May ensure fiscal transparency and I don't know if anybody has ever seen our budget book, but. 558 00:31:18,570 --> 00:31:21,170 It is a phone book and it really, and it literally has. 559 00:31:22,190 --> 00:31:23,060 Every dollar. 560 00:31:23,290 --> 00:31:24,490 Where everything goes. 561 00:31:25,210 --> 00:31:29,330 And where it's spent and we'll kind of go into the budget a little bit more later, a little later on. 562 00:31:29,450 --> 00:31:35,370 But Unified Fire Authority and our CFO Tony Health, they've won awards for this budget book and the transparency so. 563 00:31:35,650 --> 00:31:36,730 It's a boring read. 564 00:31:36,850 --> 00:31:40,860 So if you ever wanted to look at it, that's online or I can get you a physical copy. 565 00:31:40,970 --> 00:31:42,410 But it's pretty impressive. 566 00:31:42,930 --> 00:31:47,650 The Governance Committee the mandate is to manage the legal and structural framework of the agency. 567 00:31:47,850 --> 00:31:54,170 And then of course the benefits and compensation, they they balance fiscal responsibility with the workforce retention. 568 00:31:54,370 --> 00:31:56,330 And so those 3 subcommittees. 569 00:31:56,410 --> 00:31:58,850 They make the recommendations to the UFA board. 570 00:31:58,930 --> 00:31:59,570 And. 571 00:31:59,850 --> 00:32:01,290 I don't think it's ever happened Where? 572 00:32:01,530 --> 00:32:04,450 As they're made-up of board members, usually their recommendations are. 573 00:32:04,850 --> 00:32:09,130 Are usually always ratified because they do all the work and they do all the. 574 00:32:09,170 --> 00:32:11,940 All the heavy lifting on those subcommittees before it goes to the UFA board. 575 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,870 Here is our organizational structure. You can see at the top we have the board and then the Fire Chief and the chief legal officer 576 00:32:19,870 --> 00:32:22,900 answers to the board. 577 00:32:23,050 --> 00:32:23,650 I won't read. 578 00:32:24,130 --> 00:32:25,970 Go through every single one of these things but. 579 00:32:26,050 --> 00:32:27,610 That's organizational structure. 580 00:32:28,130 --> 00:32:29,290 For UFA. 581 00:32:32,150 --> 00:32:33,780 And so here we'll go into it. So as a. 582 00:32:34,010 --> 00:32:36,570 There's two more, like I said. So holiday Cottonwood Heights. 583 00:32:36,650 --> 00:32:39,130 Riverton and Harriman are direct members. 584 00:32:39,290 --> 00:32:44,050 And everybody else was UFSA member. So these are the major differences. So as a UF I say member, a separate legal entity that's a 585 00:32:44,050 --> 00:32:48,810 special service area acting as a as a taxing district, whereas holiday as a contract in any entity maintaining total municipal 586 00:32:48,810 --> 00:32:53,570 separation from the taxing district. 587 00:32:53,730 --> 00:32:54,330 So. 588 00:32:54,410 --> 00:32:55,410 Holiday peas. 589 00:32:55,690 --> 00:32:57,610 UFA with a single. 590 00:32:58,010 --> 00:33:02,930 A member fee from the general fund where the funding mechanism of ufsa is they levy lever the. 591 00:33:03,050 --> 00:33:05,730 Property taxes on residents to fund the operations. 592 00:33:05,890 --> 00:33:07,410 And then the other big difference is. 593 00:33:07,530 --> 00:33:09,370 Asset ownership, so UFSA. 594 00:33:09,650 --> 00:33:13,170 UFSA owns the fire stations and they maintain the fire stations where. 595 00:33:13,290 --> 00:33:14,770 Holiday ONS their fire station. 596 00:33:14,890 --> 00:33:16,370 And they maintain their fire station. 597 00:33:16,610 --> 00:33:21,220 And we can get into what's better or what's worse or what's different sometimes. But. 598 00:33:21,370 --> 00:33:23,570 For holiday, I think it definitely does make sense. 599 00:33:23,650 --> 00:33:27,110 You know, if you knew you had three more fire stations to build in the future, maybe you look at UFSA because then you could split 600 00:33:27,110 --> 00:33:30,570 that cost. But holidays? 601 00:33:30,850 --> 00:33:33,050 And we'll get into that in the future, too. 602 00:33:33,130 --> 00:33:37,090 Where station 104 is located and where our neighboring stations are located. 603 00:33:37,450 --> 00:33:38,650 It's pretty covered. 604 00:33:38,770 --> 00:33:43,890 For for having one station, it's it's it's a good idea and then you also are already 4 handed staff so. 605 00:33:44,010 --> 00:33:47,610 You can't really increase staffing very much and that's that's your other big cost where? 606 00:33:47,690 --> 00:33:49,820 You don't have to say. You would say to say if you're. 607 00:33:50,730 --> 00:33:51,490 Eagle Mountain. 608 00:33:51,570 --> 00:33:52,900 They have three stations. They're. 609 00:33:52,930 --> 00:33:55,650 Projected to build two more and they're gonna. There's gonna be a lot of. 610 00:33:55,770 --> 00:34:00,330 Costs coming up, so it makes more sense for someone like that to be a member of UFSA and split that cost. 611 00:34:00,650 --> 00:34:05,290 Versus Holiday or Riverton or some of these places already built out, it's kind of a. 612 00:34:06,130 --> 00:34:08,820 You get the same exact service though, that's the big thing. 613 00:34:08,970 --> 00:34:09,410 And, umm. 614 00:34:09,810 --> 00:34:11,490 You have total control over your. 615 00:34:11,690 --> 00:34:12,650 Of your taxes. 616 00:34:12,690 --> 00:34:15,860 So those are the big benefits. Is there any questions about that? That's because. 617 00:34:16,130 --> 00:34:16,650 That's a big. 618 00:34:16,970 --> 00:34:18,530 Point and I don't want to. 619 00:34:19,050 --> 00:34:20,250 It's a. It's a. 620 00:34:20,530 --> 00:34:22,370 Big difference for holiday. 621 00:34:23,690 --> 00:34:26,010 Is a we're essentially charged. 622 00:34:26,250 --> 00:34:29,530 There are a couple of variables, but the primary variable is our call volume. 623 00:34:29,930 --> 00:34:30,730 Right. How? 624 00:34:31,450 --> 00:34:33,010 Calls that come out of the. 625 00:34:33,130 --> 00:34:35,130 First serve station and such. 626 00:34:35,650 --> 00:34:38,275 One of the decision we have is you know three man cruise versus 4 man cruise. We wanted to go the best which is a four man crew 627 00:34:38,275 --> 00:34:40,900 which. 628 00:34:41,090 --> 00:34:43,610 Makes the most sense that that is a variable though. 629 00:34:43,730 --> 00:34:45,370 That we could decide. 630 00:34:46,170 --> 00:34:47,810 But in terms of our. 631 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,780 Yeah, we're not pooled with other communities. 632 00:34:52,010 --> 00:34:55,850 We're only we're charged for our call volume that happens in holiday. 633 00:34:56,370 --> 00:34:58,370 And of course we did. 634 00:34:58,450 --> 00:35:01,650 Pay for our own fire station. That's another thing that UFSA does They. 635 00:35:01,810 --> 00:35:03,650 They're essentially assessing all the. 636 00:35:03,810 --> 00:35:05,010 UFSA members. 637 00:35:05,290 --> 00:35:07,290 As if they're one big city in a. 638 00:35:07,690 --> 00:35:09,090 A shared pool. 639 00:35:09,410 --> 00:35:12,290 For their station costs and their operating costs. 640 00:35:13,290 --> 00:35:13,890 But. 641 00:35:15,250 --> 00:35:16,730 Relative to the other cities. 642 00:35:17,210 --> 00:35:18,290 Holiday is a. 643 00:35:19,260 --> 00:35:22,020 Low call volume relative to our tax base. 644 00:35:22,130 --> 00:35:23,170 And so as a result. 645 00:35:23,410 --> 00:35:24,650 We're getting a screen and deal. 646 00:35:24,730 --> 00:35:26,770 Because we the same service provider. 647 00:35:27,090 --> 00:35:29,180 That gives the same great service to everybody but. 648 00:35:29,950 --> 00:35:32,180 The cost allocation metric is. 649 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:34,340 Really favorable. 650 00:35:34,930 --> 00:35:35,690 So. 651 00:35:36,730 --> 00:35:37,970 Great deal. Go ahead. 652 00:35:38,410 --> 00:35:43,010 And we'll go over that with the call volume and things about in a little later on. 653 00:35:43,250 --> 00:35:45,490 But you know, just just as another example, say. 654 00:35:46,210 --> 00:35:47,170 Last year they. 655 00:35:47,370 --> 00:35:49,090 Currents open another fire station. 656 00:35:49,210 --> 00:35:53,970 And so when currents open to the fire station, they're a member of UFSA. UFSA met, all had to. 657 00:35:54,250 --> 00:35:56,130 Vote and share that cost. 658 00:35:56,290 --> 00:35:58,810 Where Holiday being a direct member, it didn't affect Holiday. 659 00:35:58,970 --> 00:36:00,810 To open a fire station elsewhere. 660 00:36:00,890 --> 00:36:02,690 So OK. 661 00:36:03,820 --> 00:36:04,420 Next slide. 662 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,500 So this is kind of how our member fee system works, so. 663 00:36:07,730 --> 00:36:11,550 And I'll get into this more. This is the overview, but I'll get in the nuts and bolts in just a little bit. But it takes your 664 00:36:11,550 --> 00:36:15,370 first two areas, so 104 and there's a. 665 00:36:15,490 --> 00:36:16,290 And you can kind of. 666 00:36:16,410 --> 00:36:19,610 It's not an exact circle, but you kind of put an area around 1:04. 667 00:36:19,690 --> 00:36:23,990 And and, and the calls that are running holiday and, and you get charged for that and there's kind of a give and take between 668 00:36:23,990 --> 00:36:28,290 1:12, which is up in Olympus Cove. 669 00:36:28,410 --> 00:36:34,570 And 116 which is low enough on Wasatch and 1:10 which is 1 in Cottonwood Heights. So there's a there's a give and take between. 670 00:36:35,050 --> 00:36:35,930 104. 671 00:36:36,050 --> 00:36:36,930 And then? 672 00:36:37,090 --> 00:36:39,210 The neighboring cities and we capture all that. 673 00:36:39,450 --> 00:36:42,930 And charge accordingly. And every year there's, you know. 674 00:36:43,130 --> 00:36:44,410 I think for a couple years. 675 00:36:44,730 --> 00:36:48,890 It seemed like the call point there, people were coming into holiday a little bit more and then this year. 676 00:36:49,130 --> 00:36:52,530 Holiday went out a little bit more, so they went down just a little bit and. 677 00:36:53,410 --> 00:36:56,330 Kind of minuscule as far as in the grand scheme of things. 678 00:36:56,410 --> 00:36:57,890 But we do capture all of that. 679 00:36:58,050 --> 00:37:02,850 So the the the cost is is based on the geographical zone and I have a map of that and we'll show. 680 00:37:02,970 --> 00:37:03,490 And then? 681 00:37:04,130 --> 00:37:09,970 And then that you have your loaded crew cost which we'll get into that, which is how much it costs we we charge either. 682 00:37:10,050 --> 00:37:12,650 Do you have a three handed engine or a four handed engine? 683 00:37:12,730 --> 00:37:14,260 And for those that have been to fire school. 684 00:37:14,330 --> 00:37:14,930 You know the. 685 00:37:15,090 --> 00:37:17,290 Big, huge difference. And as a firefighter. 686 00:37:17,410 --> 00:37:21,810 It is a huge benefit to be on a four handed apparatus versus A3 handed apparatus. 687 00:37:22,090 --> 00:37:24,850 For almost every call. So that's that's one reason that. 688 00:37:25,090 --> 00:37:26,850 It's great. It is just. 689 00:37:26,970 --> 00:37:27,610 Firefighters. 690 00:37:27,930 --> 00:37:31,090 That a lot of people don't even like to work on 300 apparatus. 691 00:37:31,770 --> 00:37:35,695 You'll have your overhead, which we'll go over and then the offsets, which can be the revenues, which is ambulance revenue and 692 00:37:35,695 --> 00:37:39,620 things like that. But we'll get all into that total member fee number. 693 00:37:39,770 --> 00:37:40,770 More in just a little bit. 694 00:37:43,770 --> 00:37:44,410 Next slide. 695 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:52,360 Oh, OK. We are on the next slide. So the budget is preparing accordance with the the Uniform Fiscal Procedures Act for cities. 696 00:37:52,570 --> 00:37:54,570 So UFA maintains a. 697 00:37:55,010 --> 00:37:57,810 A fund balance at or above state required minimums and. 698 00:37:57,930 --> 00:38:01,900 And they target 8 1/2% to provide a fiscal buffer for emergency contingencies and. 699 00:38:02,370 --> 00:38:06,050 There's constant scrutiny, always throws looking at the fund balance and then. 700 00:38:06,130 --> 00:38:10,370 That one of the benefits of economies of scale is the support services historically. 701 00:38:10,490 --> 00:38:15,770 They represent 14 to 16% of the budget, which is, which is really good as far as the the overhead. 702 00:38:20,780 --> 00:38:21,700 So the. 703 00:38:21,850 --> 00:38:25,490 The major cost of the UFA General Fund is obviously personnel in overtime. 704 00:38:25,610 --> 00:38:28,795 That's, that's always the number one, but what you get from that. So we maintain a hard floor of daily staffing across all our 26 705 00:38:28,795 --> 00:38:31,980 stations. 706 00:38:32,170 --> 00:38:34,490 So in any business. 707 00:38:34,850 --> 00:38:37,250 You know, staffing is always number one, but. 708 00:38:37,570 --> 00:38:41,090 You Station 104 will have your four people on your. 709 00:38:41,410 --> 00:38:43,850 Engine and two people on your ambulance. 710 00:38:44,330 --> 00:38:45,890 Doesn't matter, they can be. 711 00:38:47,380 --> 00:38:51,020 30 sick calls We can have people deployed to a hurricane. 712 00:38:51,130 --> 00:38:54,850 But we we have a minimum staffing which is which is what it is so. 713 00:38:55,290 --> 00:38:59,260 Station 104 is always staffed, but that's a benefit because in some smaller departments. 714 00:38:59,370 --> 00:39:00,930 Sometimes it's hard to eat up. 715 00:39:01,370 --> 00:39:03,290 Sick calls or some of these other things? 716 00:39:03,370 --> 00:39:08,500 But that's the one thing that we have is we have, we have a hard minimum staffing and there has been times when. 717 00:39:09,570 --> 00:39:09,690 UFA. 718 00:39:10,090 --> 00:39:12,570 There has been every once in a while that we go down but. 719 00:39:12,770 --> 00:39:14,810 Holiday is way down that list because. 720 00:39:14,890 --> 00:39:18,610 They're pretty busy so they usually they like to draw down on a smaller one, but that handle that only happens a handful of times 721 00:39:18,610 --> 00:39:22,330 a year. 722 00:39:22,450 --> 00:39:24,410 And sometimes for instance. 723 00:39:25,470 --> 00:39:27,620 If we have people that can sign up for overtime. 724 00:39:27,770 --> 00:39:32,610 So and that's usually how we fill vacancies, but we also have something called mandatory staffing, so. 725 00:39:33,090 --> 00:39:36,930 It's just the unfortunate I I believe. I don't know if you PD has anything like this. 726 00:39:37,050 --> 00:39:38,410 Where some days. 727 00:39:38,770 --> 00:39:40,010 You may think you're going home. 728 00:39:40,090 --> 00:39:40,650 But guess what? 729 00:39:40,730 --> 00:39:44,460 You're not going home, you've been mandatory staff for that day and it's just the nature of the work. 730 00:39:44,570 --> 00:39:45,890 And everybody understands it. 731 00:39:46,530 --> 00:39:49,010 So, so that is one way we keep the minimum staffing. 732 00:39:49,410 --> 00:39:51,530 It could be hard, like I said, in a smaller department. 733 00:39:51,770 --> 00:39:56,490 And then health care costs and as a major driver and then the capital outlay. 734 00:39:56,810 --> 00:40:00,810 Which we'll get into a little bit later on too, which is a our capital plan. 735 00:40:04,090 --> 00:40:07,330 You don't get stuck. Well, actually the next slide I'll kind of explain it. 736 00:40:07,890 --> 00:40:09,450 A little bit so. 737 00:40:09,570 --> 00:40:12,250 We have a, we have a capital plan where we replace. 738 00:40:12,970 --> 00:40:19,450 Everything of value in a predetermined amount of time, for instance, and we'll get into this a little bit later, but we buy. 739 00:40:19,730 --> 00:40:20,450 Every. 740 00:40:20,530 --> 00:40:22,810 Every 9 or every nine years. 741 00:40:23,010 --> 00:40:24,650 Will buy Every three years we'll buy. 742 00:40:25,210 --> 00:40:26,490 5 fire engines. 743 00:40:26,650 --> 00:40:28,290 And so there's a strict rotation. 744 00:40:28,530 --> 00:40:30,530 Right. So as the and as you can see. 745 00:40:30,930 --> 00:40:34,410 I don't know if you noticed that we went on it before, but for Councilmember Sunwall and Councilman Bradley, we just got a new 746 00:40:34,410 --> 00:40:37,890 fire engine this last year and so. 747 00:40:38,010 --> 00:40:39,410 The good thing about it is is that. 748 00:40:40,300 --> 00:40:43,500 Holiday is not the pony up $1,000,000 to get a fire engine which is the. 749 00:40:43,570 --> 00:40:45,490 Which is the cost of a fire engine nowadays. 750 00:40:45,610 --> 00:40:48,050 You kind of pay into this capital outlay fund every year. 751 00:40:48,170 --> 00:40:49,650 Which makes the cost predictable. 752 00:40:49,770 --> 00:40:50,530 And then? 753 00:40:50,650 --> 00:40:52,850 During the life cycle, about 10 to 12 years. 754 00:40:52,930 --> 00:40:54,100 You'll get a new fire engine. 755 00:40:54,170 --> 00:40:56,570 So we do that with everything from our. 756 00:40:56,690 --> 00:40:59,170 Ambulances to our brush trucks. 757 00:40:59,370 --> 00:41:02,970 To our radios. To our Scbas, which are our breathing apparatus. 758 00:41:03,170 --> 00:41:04,530 They're all on timelines. 759 00:41:04,690 --> 00:41:06,210 And so it makes things. 760 00:41:07,210 --> 00:41:08,490 Predictable and cost. 761 00:41:09,410 --> 00:41:12,370 I'll say a little story. I think it was in 2007 or. 762 00:41:13,370 --> 00:41:15,050 Kind of right when I got hired, we bought. 763 00:41:15,530 --> 00:41:17,490 I think 16 fire engines at once. 764 00:41:17,890 --> 00:41:21,930 And it was great, right? Everybody's like, oh, we have brand new fire, brand new fire engines. 765 00:41:22,090 --> 00:41:24,100 And, well, they all started breaking down at the same time. 766 00:41:24,490 --> 00:41:28,090 And they all came off warranty at the same time, so it was a nightmare. 767 00:41:28,650 --> 00:41:33,650 To predict costs and no one knew. And it was, it was, it was a huge challenge. So now. 768 00:41:33,770 --> 00:41:35,610 As we every three years. 769 00:41:35,690 --> 00:41:37,770 We purchased, we put an order in. 770 00:41:37,970 --> 00:41:39,530 And then you know, and the other thing is. 771 00:41:39,970 --> 00:41:43,940 We didn't like this on this last batch. We can change this on this fire engine or a little tiny changes. 772 00:41:44,050 --> 00:41:44,930 It's definitely made a. 773 00:41:45,410 --> 00:41:46,770 A more predictable. 774 00:41:47,450 --> 00:41:48,130 For costs. 775 00:41:48,570 --> 00:41:53,780 That's the biggest thing, more predictable and it keeps on a good rotation for replacing these apparatus. 776 00:41:57,900 --> 00:42:00,700 OK, and here is your station 104. 777 00:42:01,410 --> 00:42:05,850 So staff, like I said, a staff 24/7, four person fire engine and the two person ambulance. 778 00:42:06,930 --> 00:42:09,010 And then it's it's perfectly placed. 779 00:42:09,130 --> 00:42:11,290 And we'll go and start a little bit on a side note. 780 00:42:11,650 --> 00:42:14,930 People love working there. It's a it's a beautiful fire station. 781 00:42:15,050 --> 00:42:16,170 And the citizens? 782 00:42:16,290 --> 00:42:17,810 Treat everybody great here. 783 00:42:18,010 --> 00:42:23,130 The one drawback is is that there's a lot of night calls on holiday. I don't know if that's the same thing with the police. 784 00:42:23,570 --> 00:42:25,490 Seems to be a lot of night calls which. 785 00:42:25,610 --> 00:42:26,970 As firefighters, we hate that. 786 00:42:27,450 --> 00:42:30,010 But it is what it is, right? But it's a beautiful station. 787 00:42:30,290 --> 00:42:31,650 People love working there. 788 00:42:31,730 --> 00:42:32,370 And it's. 789 00:42:32,970 --> 00:42:34,090 Yeah, yeah, it's. 790 00:42:34,130 --> 00:42:36,100 That's great. That's one of the places people like to work. 791 00:42:39,530 --> 00:42:40,250 So and then the. 792 00:42:40,370 --> 00:42:44,090 For the strategic outlook, so this is this is our mission statement to save lives, protect property and strengthen community 793 00:42:44,090 --> 00:42:47,810 relationship with professionals and courage and dedication and then holiday retains total municipal autonomy and local property 794 00:42:47,810 --> 00:42:51,530 tax control. 795 00:42:51,690 --> 00:42:52,370 But you gained a. 796 00:42:52,690 --> 00:42:55,550 You gain the protection of retail's largest and specialized fire agency. So now we're going to get into some of the nuts and bolts 797 00:42:55,550 --> 00:42:58,410 of. 798 00:42:58,690 --> 00:43:03,130 The budget, does anybody have any questions over the governance or any of the things that I just. 799 00:43:03,410 --> 00:43:03,970 Covered. 800 00:43:05,710 --> 00:43:06,070 OK. 801 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:15,620 So this is the the budget that was passed in for fiscal year 2526 and we'll kind of just go over a little bit line by line. 802 00:43:15,730 --> 00:43:18,370 Up at the top are some of the some of the revenue so. 803 00:43:18,650 --> 00:43:20,410 They always budget ambulance revenue. 804 00:43:20,970 --> 00:43:22,810 And just bridge you is so. 805 00:43:22,970 --> 00:43:24,770 For the state sets the. 806 00:43:24,890 --> 00:43:29,330 The cost for ambulance rides, so we always have people that come in and say, oh, this. 807 00:43:29,410 --> 00:43:31,250 Was this much and it is expensive? I'm not. 808 00:43:31,570 --> 00:43:34,250 There's there's no way around that, but. 809 00:43:34,850 --> 00:43:36,410 The state is due determines. 810 00:43:36,730 --> 00:43:37,770 Ambulance costs. 811 00:43:37,850 --> 00:43:40,610 Just just for people now. So you have a. 812 00:43:40,770 --> 00:43:42,690 Your ambulance revenue, which we budgeted low. 813 00:43:43,730 --> 00:43:45,490 URS actually went down. 814 00:43:45,770 --> 00:43:47,330 And then stress test cuts so. 815 00:43:47,410 --> 00:43:48,890 Cheaper chat every year. 816 00:43:49,290 --> 00:43:50,650 He I cannot. 817 00:43:50,730 --> 00:43:53,570 For the life of me remember which seat a famous CEO does this but every year he goes so just his different divisions from fire 818 00:43:53,570 --> 00:43:56,410 training. 819 00:43:56,490 --> 00:43:58,090 The operations to. 820 00:43:58,330 --> 00:44:01,730 Medical training to fire prevention to logistics. 821 00:44:01,850 --> 00:44:02,730 And he says. 822 00:44:03,250 --> 00:44:03,930 Give me a. 823 00:44:04,090 --> 00:44:05,530 Budget where you cut 10%. 824 00:44:06,090 --> 00:44:08,530 Like if you had to do it, give me a budget that you cut 10%. 825 00:44:08,650 --> 00:44:11,050 And they look at it and they decide what they can live with and what. 826 00:44:11,090 --> 00:44:11,900 And what they can't? 827 00:44:11,970 --> 00:44:14,170 But that's an exercise that he does every year. 828 00:44:14,250 --> 00:44:20,050 Which is he is, he makes them go each division, go through a stress test and then interest. So last year. 829 00:44:20,450 --> 00:44:20,970 We got a. 830 00:44:21,490 --> 00:44:22,890 Over 3.6%. 831 00:44:22,970 --> 00:44:25,370 For all increase all all employees. 832 00:44:25,490 --> 00:44:29,970 A market adjustment for sworn civilian. So they they look at every rank and see where where we are in the market from Battalion 833 00:44:29,970 --> 00:44:34,450 Chief to captain to paramedic to engineer. 834 00:44:34,530 --> 00:44:35,610 And then they usually do about. 835 00:44:35,930 --> 00:44:40,050 Have to 1/3 of the civilian employees every year with a with a look at their market. 836 00:44:41,130 --> 00:44:44,450 Health insurance, we had a 7 1/2 percent renewal rate and hoping for. 837 00:44:44,610 --> 00:44:46,450 Something similar about this year, but. 838 00:44:48,410 --> 00:44:53,300 New ambulance again So so a new ambulance started in January 2025. 839 00:44:53,450 --> 00:44:53,930 So. 840 00:44:54,570 --> 00:44:55,890 Just for clarification. 841 00:44:56,090 --> 00:44:56,610 So. 842 00:44:56,770 --> 00:44:59,450 Holiday pay how we bill is either through a three or four handed. 843 00:44:59,890 --> 00:45:00,450 Engine umm. 844 00:45:00,770 --> 00:45:02,970 And then ambulances go into a regional. 845 00:45:03,890 --> 00:45:06,570 A regional service delivery, which we'll kind of show you so. 846 00:45:06,690 --> 00:45:08,490 So for instance. 847 00:45:08,610 --> 00:45:09,610 Last year. 848 00:45:10,050 --> 00:45:11,090 The City of Holiday. 849 00:45:11,210 --> 00:45:13,770 Had a part-time ambulance, which was. 850 00:45:14,850 --> 00:45:16,650 Part time employees on an ambulance. 851 00:45:16,810 --> 00:45:18,330 Who they were staffed. 852 00:45:18,770 --> 00:45:20,170 Six days a week. 853 00:45:20,730 --> 00:45:22,170 I believe it was from 9:00 to 9:00. 854 00:45:22,290 --> 00:45:23,810 And then through the call volume. 855 00:45:24,090 --> 00:45:26,650 And just how they looked at it through data. 856 00:45:26,810 --> 00:45:27,730 They flip-flopped. 857 00:45:27,890 --> 00:45:29,250 That part-time ambulance? 858 00:45:29,410 --> 00:45:33,090 With the full time ambulance that was actually right up the street here at station 106. 859 00:45:33,170 --> 00:45:34,780 Because that would better serve everybody. 860 00:45:34,970 --> 00:45:38,490 But because that moved and that's part of the regional service delivery, there was number. 861 00:45:38,730 --> 00:45:39,330 Fiscal. 862 00:45:39,410 --> 00:45:42,390 Changing between Mill Creek and Holiday, even though you switched a part-time, full-time ambulance, so the ambulance service is 863 00:45:42,390 --> 00:45:45,370 just built in. 864 00:45:45,810 --> 00:45:48,050 Does that make sense? So. So even though there was a. 865 00:45:48,330 --> 00:45:50,730 So there's a new ambulance that was actually put in. 866 00:45:52,450 --> 00:45:53,450 I believe in currents. 867 00:45:53,610 --> 00:45:55,770 That is why, that's why that's on there for everybody. 868 00:45:55,810 --> 00:45:58,540 Same thing with the Battalion Chief. We added the 4th Battalion Chief. 869 00:45:58,610 --> 00:46:04,890 Battalion Chief serves around. It used to be 7 to 8 stations, now they serve 5 to 6, which is much more manageable. 870 00:46:05,050 --> 00:46:06,970 And then and then I won't. 871 00:46:07,050 --> 00:46:08,090 Go over the rest but. 872 00:46:09,030 --> 00:46:11,540 Or even the smallest miniscule budget impacts are kind of. 873 00:46:11,810 --> 00:46:12,810 Kind of noticed right here. 874 00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,180 I will say the capital fund when you go back one more time. 875 00:46:21,220 --> 00:46:25,020 So the capital fund transfers, so that was kind of a big one. I will point on that is that. 876 00:46:26,010 --> 00:46:29,770 Things are just getting much more expensive. So when we go to, I'll show you one of our capital. 877 00:46:29,850 --> 00:46:33,450 Our capital funds or our capital leases are one of our nine year leases where? 878 00:46:33,530 --> 00:46:38,380 Where we buy the fire, 5 fire engines, fire all that, it's kind of like a down payment to lessen the impact because. 879 00:46:38,490 --> 00:46:41,060 I don't know if you've ever seen it's actually been national news. Where? 880 00:46:41,650 --> 00:46:43,090 They've actually these fire. 881 00:46:43,250 --> 00:46:49,250 Fire apparatus manufacturers have actually like to appear in front of Congress because the prices of skyrocketed so much. 882 00:46:49,330 --> 00:46:50,330 Like. 883 00:46:50,970 --> 00:46:56,210 So now you know they're sitting at 1,000,000 bucks. I feel like five years ago there were 700,000, right? So that they're. 884 00:46:56,330 --> 00:47:00,050 They're going up. It used to be. We still build on our fire engine and we get it in a year. 885 00:47:00,170 --> 00:47:01,810 Now we're looking at 3-4 years. 886 00:47:01,890 --> 00:47:03,810 So it's it's actually been. 887 00:47:03,850 --> 00:47:07,510 I mean, maybe it's just national news to me because that's what I follow, but they've they've actually had to bring the 888 00:47:07,510 --> 00:47:11,170 manufacturers in front of Congress and they've been kind of grilled about this. 889 00:47:11,250 --> 00:47:14,450 So that's what that one is and I just want to point to that because I was over 1,000,000 bucks. 890 00:47:17,910 --> 00:47:20,020 OK, so here's the here's the service demand. 891 00:47:20,090 --> 00:47:21,690 And this is kind of how. 892 00:47:22,290 --> 00:47:24,490 Things are built a little bit, so if you look at the top. 893 00:47:24,850 --> 00:47:28,050 So holiday, what we do is we take a three-year. 894 00:47:29,450 --> 00:47:30,930 We combined three years so. 895 00:47:31,090 --> 00:47:33,010 So it's not just if you happen to have one. 896 00:47:33,130 --> 00:47:33,890 Year were. 897 00:47:34,010 --> 00:47:36,210 Call volume goes up in some in an area. 898 00:47:36,370 --> 00:47:40,250 It's not going to change the funding very much, so we take a three-year rolling. 899 00:47:41,370 --> 00:47:43,810 Rolling call count right here and so if you see. 900 00:47:44,580 --> 00:47:46,900 I'll kind of go. So if you look at 1:04 and you look over. 901 00:47:48,250 --> 00:47:49,170 They ran. 902 00:47:49,970 --> 00:47:51,290 5000 incidents. 903 00:47:51,370 --> 00:47:53,780 Between 2022 and 2024. 904 00:47:53,930 --> 00:47:56,290 In in their own in their own city and. 905 00:47:56,810 --> 00:47:58,010 In in holiday. 906 00:47:58,130 --> 00:47:59,010 And UFSA. 907 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:01,340 Gram, which is. 908 00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:04,040 112 which is Olympus Cove. 909 00:48:04,250 --> 00:48:06,850 Which is 106 right here at Mill Creek. 910 00:48:06,930 --> 00:48:11,890 116 or 116 is actually not that actually down there, but UFSA. So which is really 112. 911 00:48:12,010 --> 00:48:12,610 And, umm. 912 00:48:13,170 --> 00:48:14,170 And 1:06. 913 00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:17,220 They ran 32% of holidays calls. 914 00:48:17,370 --> 00:48:19,250 And so then they get down to the to the. 915 00:48:19,450 --> 00:48:23,290 To the 100% and then but then if you look down holiday ran. 916 00:48:23,490 --> 00:48:26,050 684 calls in Cottonwood Heights area. 917 00:48:26,370 --> 00:48:29,970 And they also ran 654 calls in 112 UFSA. 918 00:48:30,370 --> 00:48:31,170 And then? 919 00:48:31,330 --> 00:48:32,570 282 calls. 920 00:48:32,930 --> 00:48:35,370 And when I in 116's area. 921 00:48:35,690 --> 00:48:38,370 And so you take that and they kind of calculate a give and take on. 922 00:48:38,570 --> 00:48:40,250 What calls are go where? 923 00:48:40,970 --> 00:48:42,090 And then that's how they come up. 924 00:48:42,170 --> 00:48:44,770 With the billing so which is pretty good because. 925 00:48:45,330 --> 00:48:46,010 That way. 926 00:48:46,610 --> 00:48:47,770 If let's say that. 927 00:48:48,970 --> 00:48:50,250 Holiday was going into. 928 00:48:50,610 --> 00:48:53,090 One 10s area, All the time. Just all the time. 929 00:48:53,490 --> 00:48:55,050 Then at least that would be captured. 930 00:48:55,130 --> 00:48:56,530 Fiscally, rather than just. 931 00:48:56,690 --> 00:48:58,290 We're just giving it now if. 932 00:48:58,930 --> 00:49:03,810 The fortune thing for holidays that they're surrounded by UFSA in some areas where. 933 00:49:04,210 --> 00:49:06,850 It's not shared fiscally, for instance. 934 00:49:08,250 --> 00:49:10,690 Say Magna which is in UFA and then. 935 00:49:10,770 --> 00:49:11,610 West Valley. 936 00:49:12,580 --> 00:49:15,140 If West Valley was coming in all the time. 937 00:49:15,890 --> 00:49:18,890 More say that we're coming into Magna way too much. 938 00:49:18,970 --> 00:49:21,715 Then it becomes more of a cheap to cheap thing rather than we can't just figure out fiscally, it actually becomes something they 939 00:49:21,715 --> 00:49:24,460 have to workout and like. 940 00:49:24,530 --> 00:49:29,650 How we're going to do this So so holiday is right smack in the middle. I'm watching Charlotte next slide and how lucky it is. 941 00:49:31,770 --> 00:49:34,570 So if you can see where station 104 is, right in the smack in the middle. 942 00:49:35,250 --> 00:49:39,370 And the weird shape that's around it, Not the green, but just. 943 00:49:39,450 --> 00:49:42,250 That is what's called 104's first in SO. 944 00:49:42,450 --> 00:49:43,970 Any call in that area? 945 00:49:44,090 --> 00:49:44,930 Is considered. 946 00:49:45,370 --> 00:49:46,810 104 is called and. 947 00:49:46,890 --> 00:49:50,410 For how it's built now, if you look at that little chunk on the northeast side. 948 00:49:50,770 --> 00:49:53,970 112 actually owns that chunk of holiday, so if any call comes in there. 949 00:49:54,170 --> 00:49:55,890 112 goes first because they're closer. 950 00:49:56,010 --> 00:49:57,090 Right, so. 951 00:49:57,170 --> 00:49:58,610 And then 110 owns a little. 952 00:49:58,730 --> 00:49:59,650 Chunk to the South. 953 00:49:59,970 --> 00:50:03,730 And then 116 owns that little chunk, the little boot there on the on the. 954 00:50:04,170 --> 00:50:04,850 Southeast. 955 00:50:05,250 --> 00:50:05,810 And. 956 00:50:05,890 --> 00:50:07,460 So the good thing about that is, is that. 957 00:50:09,720 --> 00:50:10,580 Holiday has. 958 00:50:10,770 --> 00:50:12,250 It pays for one station. 959 00:50:12,330 --> 00:50:14,250 But they have 4 stations that own a part of it. 960 00:50:14,450 --> 00:50:17,890 Which is not always the case. So if it was if they were on their own fire department. 961 00:50:18,130 --> 00:50:19,130 They might own all of it. 962 00:50:19,250 --> 00:50:24,410 Right. So, so it's very lucky that they are right smack in the middle and they're surrounded by. 963 00:50:24,610 --> 00:50:28,130 Other members of the UFA that own part of it and it's best for service delivery. 964 00:50:31,330 --> 00:50:31,970 Next slide. 965 00:50:32,370 --> 00:50:34,130 This kind of explains it a little bit more. 966 00:50:34,290 --> 00:50:34,850 So. 967 00:50:35,210 --> 00:50:40,250 If you just look at the holiday section, so a number of stations that own a first new area, SO4 stations own. 968 00:50:40,690 --> 00:50:44,050 A first two area in holiday, which is like I said, if a call goes in there. 969 00:50:44,170 --> 00:50:45,450 That station goes to it. 970 00:50:45,530 --> 00:50:47,610 Now if you look at the other ones for instance. 971 00:50:48,130 --> 00:50:50,370 Harriman. They have three in the 1st 2:00. 972 00:50:50,490 --> 00:50:51,810 But they paper two of them. 973 00:50:52,010 --> 00:50:53,210 Riverton they have 3. 974 00:50:53,330 --> 00:50:57,890 They pay, they pay for three of them and then Cottonwood Heights, they have three, but they pay for two of them, so. 975 00:50:57,970 --> 00:51:00,250 Holiday gets the best bang for the buck strictly for. 976 00:51:00,410 --> 00:51:02,050 Geographical standpoint that. 977 00:51:02,130 --> 00:51:03,090 They pay for one. 978 00:51:03,250 --> 00:51:04,210 And then they. 979 00:51:04,330 --> 00:51:08,650 Have for that on 1st stand and so the proportion of the station so holiday because. 980 00:51:08,730 --> 00:51:11,490 Those other stations own a chunk of holiday proportionally. 981 00:51:11,650 --> 00:51:14,050 You pay for 1.04 stations. 982 00:51:14,210 --> 00:51:16,970 Total and then the percent of this member fee. 983 00:51:17,090 --> 00:51:20,250 The Member. The member fee for the fiscal year 2526. 984 00:51:20,730 --> 00:51:22,690 The percentage increase from the year before. 985 00:51:22,850 --> 00:51:24,410 And then the actual dollar amount. 986 00:51:24,690 --> 00:51:25,570 Cost increase. 987 00:51:26,250 --> 00:51:28,930 Is that it's? It's kind of confusing. 988 00:51:29,050 --> 00:51:29,610 So. 989 00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:31,860 Maybe it's not. 990 00:51:32,330 --> 00:51:34,650 But does anybody have any questions of kind of how that works? 991 00:51:35,170 --> 00:51:36,050 I mean basically. 992 00:51:37,090 --> 00:51:39,050 Call volume We pay for our own station. 993 00:51:39,650 --> 00:51:41,770 And that covers the bulk of it, but. 994 00:51:43,350 --> 00:51:45,580 But you provide service based on. 995 00:51:46,460 --> 00:51:48,940 What's the best way to get there? You're providing coverage. 996 00:51:50,410 --> 00:51:51,330 And our. 997 00:51:51,650 --> 00:51:54,850 Cost share is is based primarily on our activity and we're not. 998 00:51:54,970 --> 00:51:56,690 Pulled with anyone else but we. 999 00:51:57,330 --> 00:51:58,730 Service delivery from. 1000 00:51:59,010 --> 00:52:00,850 Pooled service but we just pay for. 1001 00:52:00,930 --> 00:52:01,610 What's ours? 1002 00:52:01,690 --> 00:52:03,020 Regardless of where it comes from. 1003 00:52:03,370 --> 00:52:04,250 Yeah, yeah. 1004 00:52:05,970 --> 00:52:08,330 So you you pay for the for the crew 104 and it. 1005 00:52:08,450 --> 00:52:10,810 And if they were going out way more than. 1006 00:52:10,930 --> 00:52:11,530 It would be. 1007 00:52:11,890 --> 00:52:12,650 It would be captured. 1008 00:52:12,730 --> 00:52:16,370 Recapture the call volume, which is great. So you pay from what you you pay for what you get. 1009 00:52:16,450 --> 00:52:17,300 Which I think is great. 1010 00:52:19,110 --> 00:52:20,340 OK, go to the. 1011 00:52:22,820 --> 00:52:24,980 So here's just another way. This is. This is the. 1012 00:52:25,650 --> 00:52:27,250 Exactly how the member fee is. 1013 00:52:27,370 --> 00:52:29,210 And so if you if you look at it. 1014 00:52:29,490 --> 00:52:31,490 Pretty small. You look at 1:04 so. 1015 00:52:32,250 --> 00:52:33,930 The first part is the. 1016 00:52:34,410 --> 00:52:39,250 The engine of the truck, so you can see there's two different numbers so you can you can get either get a three or four handed. 1017 00:52:39,410 --> 00:52:42,330 Apparatus. Almost all of them are four handed apparatus. 1018 00:52:42,490 --> 00:52:44,650 And then you get the service delivery. 1019 00:52:44,770 --> 00:52:48,410 The service delivery is your ambulance service, it's your battalion chiefs. 1020 00:52:48,770 --> 00:52:50,890 It's your heavy rescue and your hazmat. 1021 00:52:51,410 --> 00:52:56,250 Then you give your support, which is your administrative support. So that would be logistics, it'll be. 1022 00:52:56,610 --> 00:52:59,370 HR It'll be our legal department. 1023 00:52:59,530 --> 00:53:01,410 Things like that, the administrative side. 1024 00:53:01,490 --> 00:53:03,850 And then you have your your capital fund. 1025 00:53:03,970 --> 00:53:07,290 Which we'll get, we'll go again. And that's that's how we buy all our stuff and so that. 1026 00:53:07,650 --> 00:53:08,610 Even though we might get. 1027 00:53:08,690 --> 00:53:09,890 5 new fire engines. 1028 00:53:10,170 --> 00:53:10,930 In a year. 1029 00:53:11,720 --> 00:53:12,820 That is not going to. 1030 00:53:12,930 --> 00:53:13,890 Go like this. 1031 00:53:13,970 --> 00:53:15,330 Which is, which is the whole plane? 1032 00:53:15,450 --> 00:53:17,210 Instance to keep a predictable. 1033 00:53:17,810 --> 00:53:19,170 To keep a predictable. 1034 00:53:20,170 --> 00:53:25,010 Budget and then you can kind of go over and then it just adds up. So it just. 1035 00:53:25,130 --> 00:53:27,530 Over here, it'll show again. It has Cottonwood. 1036 00:53:27,730 --> 00:53:30,050 Holiday, Herriman, Riverton and then UFSA. 1037 00:53:30,370 --> 00:53:34,530 And then it'll add up everything to 100%. It's just another way of showing it's more detailed. 1038 00:53:34,610 --> 00:53:37,010 Than the view of the previous line. 1039 00:53:41,050 --> 00:53:41,930 Any questions? 1040 00:53:43,300 --> 00:53:49,820 OK, right here. So again, this is these are some of the things you get from the member for you so operations that's. 1041 00:53:49,970 --> 00:53:53,610 The people on the fire engines and the people that work, that's obviously the biggest expense, special operations, those are 1042 00:53:53,610 --> 00:53:57,250 hazardous materials and our heavy rescue response. 1043 00:53:57,890 --> 00:53:58,770 Camp Williams. 1044 00:53:59,170 --> 00:54:01,170 This is actually great, so we provide. 1045 00:54:01,490 --> 00:54:03,210 If anybody remembers the. 1046 00:54:03,770 --> 00:54:06,930 It's the machine gunfire of 2000 and. 1047 00:54:07,750 --> 00:54:10,180 10 You remember when that came over? 1048 00:54:10,450 --> 00:54:12,020 So traditionally. 1049 00:54:12,170 --> 00:54:13,450 Camp Williams had their own. 1050 00:54:13,490 --> 00:54:15,300 Fire department or their own Fire Protection. 1051 00:54:15,850 --> 00:54:16,530 After that. 1052 00:54:16,770 --> 00:54:17,970 They got rid of them and they. 1053 00:54:18,130 --> 00:54:18,690 Got with. 1054 00:54:19,330 --> 00:54:21,330 UFA and so UFA is providing. 1055 00:54:21,410 --> 00:54:24,330 Has been providing fire service ever since to Camp Williams. 1056 00:54:24,450 --> 00:54:26,930 With a it's basically a wildland firefighter crew. 1057 00:54:27,450 --> 00:54:30,770 And that's their job is to protect campaigns. But the great thing about it is. 1058 00:54:30,890 --> 00:54:33,810 Is if if there's nothing going on at Camp Williams. 1059 00:54:33,890 --> 00:54:34,690 And say. 1060 00:54:35,090 --> 00:54:37,530 Wildland fire breaks out on holiday. We can actually call them out. 1061 00:54:37,570 --> 00:54:41,420 And they can actually come out and do initial attack and things like that for us, which is great. 1062 00:54:41,530 --> 00:54:43,450 Which doesn't cost anything. 1063 00:54:44,250 --> 00:54:45,770 Then you have fire prevention so. 1064 00:54:46,490 --> 00:54:50,650 If you look over here to the holiday you pay 66,000 but you have your own. 1065 00:54:50,730 --> 00:54:55,650 Erie Fire Marshall, which is great, along with Chief Wade Watkins, who you'll probably see and. 1066 00:54:55,850 --> 00:54:56,290 And, umm. 1067 00:54:57,410 --> 00:54:58,050 And I'll just. 1068 00:54:58,210 --> 00:54:59,530 Say this about fireworks so. 1069 00:54:59,610 --> 00:55:01,250 You met with Chief Watkins, correct? 1070 00:55:01,490 --> 00:55:05,050 So I actually had a meeting with him yesterday about about fireworks and about weather because everybody's worried about that. And 1071 00:55:05,050 --> 00:55:08,610 as it gets closer because it's too late to predict. 1072 00:55:08,690 --> 00:55:11,370 He is going to come in and give a presentation. 1073 00:55:11,610 --> 00:55:12,050 And uh. 1074 00:55:12,410 --> 00:55:15,810 Because it's it's up to the council and everybody, he'll come in and give. 1075 00:55:16,740 --> 00:55:18,460 Updated information on. 1076 00:55:18,650 --> 00:55:22,370 Fuel low or moisture and fuels and things like that for you to make a decision. 1077 00:55:22,450 --> 00:55:26,770 But that's another thing you get from our fire prevention. You get a, you get a, a fire Marshall and this fire training EMS 1078 00:55:26,770 --> 00:55:31,090 special enforcement, which is our, our. 1079 00:55:31,170 --> 00:55:35,330 Bomb and arson. We have our dogs and our arson investigators. 1080 00:55:36,370 --> 00:55:38,170 Urban search and rescue so. 1081 00:55:39,170 --> 00:55:42,290 Unified Fire Authority is the sponsoring agency for. 1082 00:55:43,210 --> 00:55:46,810 Utah Task Force One, which is 1 of 28 FEMA search and rescue teams. 1083 00:55:46,890 --> 00:55:49,370 Which is made-up of firefighters and civilians all around. 1084 00:55:50,330 --> 00:55:52,290 All around Salt Lake County, even further. 1085 00:55:52,650 --> 00:55:55,010 But it's it's, it's funded by FEMA and then. 1086 00:55:55,730 --> 00:55:58,610 But you don't like unified fire authorities and sponsoring agencies? We're actually located out in our logistics building in West 1087 00:55:58,610 --> 00:56:01,490 Jordan. 1088 00:56:01,850 --> 00:56:03,890 And then you have our our wildland division. 1089 00:56:04,090 --> 00:56:06,650 Which if you look over holidays portion is. 1090 00:56:07,050 --> 00:56:08,890 17,870. 1091 00:56:09,250 --> 00:56:12,010 And what that is, is we have a whole violin division with. 1092 00:56:12,210 --> 00:56:14,850 With hand crews. With ten person hand crews. 1093 00:56:15,370 --> 00:56:16,570 They also have 3. 1094 00:56:17,570 --> 00:56:20,570 Fire engines that go out and generally we go out and they deploy. 1095 00:56:20,690 --> 00:56:22,930 To to different fires around the country. 1096 00:56:23,010 --> 00:56:23,290 But. 1097 00:56:23,370 --> 00:56:25,290 When they're in, when they're in house, they're. 1098 00:56:25,450 --> 00:56:28,490 At our beck and call, so if they're in town, we can call them. 1099 00:56:28,730 --> 00:56:31,330 And they also have a fuels crew under the wall. 1100 00:56:32,090 --> 00:56:34,770 Can come and make them. They'll do mitigation work for holiday. 1101 00:56:34,970 --> 00:56:37,170 And so actually you'll be getting e-mail from me. 1102 00:56:37,250 --> 00:56:42,410 And we're looking for mitigation work and holiday for they can go and do some things and you know, but the priority being. 1103 00:56:43,690 --> 00:56:44,450 City property. 1104 00:56:44,610 --> 00:56:47,410 But you'll get an e-mail from me about that and then. 1105 00:56:47,530 --> 00:56:51,130 Emergency Management, and you can see there's actually a refund in Emergency Management. 1106 00:56:51,450 --> 00:56:53,570 So it's Salt Lake County Emergency Management. 1107 00:56:53,690 --> 00:56:56,010 But because they're located in UFA headquarters. 1108 00:56:56,370 --> 00:57:01,450 We get a little bit of a refund for that because we handle their payroll and and they were RHR and things like that. 1109 00:57:01,970 --> 00:57:04,690 And then there's finance admin information outreach. 1110 00:57:04,770 --> 00:57:06,410 Human resources Logistics. 1111 00:57:07,050 --> 00:57:11,490 And then the capital fund transfer and that gives you the total cost, so you can see holiday. 1112 00:57:11,610 --> 00:57:12,690 3.198. 1113 00:57:12,930 --> 00:57:13,410 Million. 1114 00:57:15,420 --> 00:57:16,740 And then OK. 1115 00:57:18,450 --> 00:57:19,090 Next slide. 1116 00:57:19,490 --> 00:57:22,370 So here's here's just an example of SO. 1117 00:57:23,630 --> 00:57:25,060 Unified UFA. We do. 1118 00:57:25,330 --> 00:57:26,410 We have 3. 1119 00:57:26,650 --> 00:57:27,450 Nine month. 1120 00:57:27,530 --> 00:57:29,810 They call them leases or loans that. 1121 00:57:30,050 --> 00:57:33,890 That we are 9 year, nine year, nine year. Thank you. 9 year so. 1122 00:57:33,970 --> 00:57:35,090 So when one falls off. 1123 00:57:35,290 --> 00:57:39,570 Another one comes on. When one falls off, another comes on. And here's just the example of one of them so. 1124 00:57:39,810 --> 00:57:41,010 Type 1 fire engines. 1125 00:57:41,130 --> 00:57:44,770 Five of them, which is that's like the fire engine here in Holiday. That's the tip. When you think of a fire engine, it's a that's 1126 00:57:44,770 --> 00:57:48,410 what is a Type 1 fire engine. 1127 00:57:48,970 --> 00:57:51,010 A type 1/3 engine is is kind of a. 1128 00:57:51,450 --> 00:57:52,770 It's got the capabilities of. 1129 00:57:53,170 --> 00:57:55,090 Type one fire engine but it's kind of. 1130 00:57:55,450 --> 00:57:57,930 Has some wildland abilities at the same time. 1131 00:57:58,130 --> 00:57:59,050 It can do both. 1132 00:58:00,180 --> 00:58:02,020 But in a municipal area. 1133 00:58:02,330 --> 00:58:04,890 We just have them in a couple places. Harriman has one. 1134 00:58:05,090 --> 00:58:07,210 Our Canyon station has them because they're more like. 1135 00:58:07,290 --> 00:58:08,810 The the more likely to have. 1136 00:58:09,450 --> 00:58:13,410 A house buyer or a wildland fire than a place like holiday. 1137 00:58:13,530 --> 00:58:15,330 And then you have a tractor drawn. 1138 00:58:15,490 --> 00:58:16,770 Aerial apparatus, let's say. 1139 00:58:16,850 --> 00:58:19,380 We call them tillers, so it's the ladder truck the guy drives in the back. 1140 00:58:19,450 --> 00:58:20,500 Or the girl drives in the back. 1141 00:58:20,570 --> 00:58:21,490 These emails. 1142 00:58:21,970 --> 00:58:24,730 5 ambulances, 1 heavy rescue apparatus. 1143 00:58:25,010 --> 00:58:27,930 3 mechanic trucks. I won't go through the whole thing but you can look. 1144 00:58:28,010 --> 00:58:32,410 And that's, that's an example of things on our capital replacement fund like this we have, we have 3. 1145 00:58:32,610 --> 00:58:34,730 Nine year ones and 1-6 year one. 1146 00:58:34,810 --> 00:58:36,380 And we'll kind of go over the six year one, but. 1147 00:58:36,450 --> 00:58:38,010 The six year 1 is just for the. 1148 00:58:38,970 --> 00:58:43,770 Usually those things don't last nine years and it's something that we want to replace all the same time. For instance, radios. 1149 00:58:43,970 --> 00:58:48,170 We'll get, we'll replace all the radios at the same time because it's not one of those things where. 1150 00:58:48,210 --> 00:58:51,180 Well, what kind of radio am I working with today? We want it all to be the same. 1151 00:58:51,250 --> 00:58:55,410 Or cardiac monitors. When we replace the cardiac monitors, we replace them all at once because we don't want different cardiac 1152 00:58:55,410 --> 00:58:59,570 monitors out there at the same time. So those are and. 1153 00:58:59,610 --> 00:59:04,490 Usually we don't keep those things for nine years. So those are examples of those kind of leases and we'll kind of go on that. 1154 00:59:04,570 --> 00:59:05,490 On the next slide. 1155 00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:13,100 This is just more of this SO. 1156 00:59:14,650 --> 00:59:18,650 Oh, these are, these are our cash purchases. I'm sorry. So these are things that just wouldn't make sense. 1157 00:59:18,970 --> 00:59:19,530 So. 1158 00:59:20,130 --> 00:59:23,330 Body truck with chipper. A couple some IT equipment. 1159 00:59:24,370 --> 00:59:25,610 Some software stuff. 1160 00:59:25,770 --> 00:59:27,690 This is cast purchases that we did last year. 1161 00:59:27,770 --> 00:59:28,450 And the big ones. 1162 00:59:31,070 --> 00:59:34,980 And here's our example of our capital replacement plan, so you can see up at the top. 1163 00:59:36,010 --> 00:59:37,650 You have your fiscal every three years. 1164 00:59:38,610 --> 00:59:40,130 Kind of tells you what you're going to buy. 1165 00:59:40,210 --> 00:59:41,260 And I won't go down it but. 1166 00:59:42,050 --> 00:59:43,250 Everything is captured. 1167 00:59:47,110 --> 00:59:50,300 Which is good. One thing that I forgot to go over. 1168 00:59:50,930 --> 00:59:51,810 Which I think is important. 1169 00:59:51,890 --> 00:59:55,570 Important is can we go back? I'll tell you when to stop. 1170 00:59:55,730 --> 00:59:56,330 Go back, go back. 1171 00:59:57,050 --> 00:59:57,890 OK, great. 1172 01:00:00,930 --> 01:00:01,980 Let's see, go back one more. 1173 01:00:04,230 --> 01:00:05,700 Yes, so on this one. 1174 01:00:06,370 --> 01:00:07,970 I just wanted to see on. 1175 01:00:08,370 --> 01:00:10,330 I wanted to point something better on the. 1176 01:00:12,510 --> 01:00:14,100 The member free before the. 1177 01:00:14,210 --> 01:00:15,370 The member fee credit. 1178 01:00:15,650 --> 01:00:16,330 So. 1179 01:00:17,330 --> 01:00:18,530 I always like to tell the story. 1180 01:00:18,650 --> 01:00:21,490 So when I was in the Marine Corps before I. 1181 01:00:22,820 --> 01:00:24,060 Became a firefighter. 1182 01:00:24,170 --> 01:00:25,570 And I always remember this. 1183 01:00:25,650 --> 01:00:27,570 We went to the Philippines for a training. 1184 01:00:27,650 --> 01:00:28,410 And. 1185 01:00:28,770 --> 01:00:30,210 We're only over there for. 1186 01:00:30,250 --> 01:00:32,130 Four or five days. I can't remember exactly how much. 1187 01:00:32,250 --> 01:00:32,850 This is an. 1188 01:00:33,210 --> 01:00:35,210 2004 since this was a long time ago. 1189 01:00:35,770 --> 01:00:36,370 And. 1190 01:00:36,930 --> 01:00:39,610 Our trainings all got rained out so before we got back on the boat. 1191 01:00:41,250 --> 01:00:44,370 We sat there and in the middle of the night. 1192 01:00:44,730 --> 01:00:46,490 We shall. I can't remember. 1193 01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:50,240 Hundreds and hundreds of thousands of rounds. 1194 01:00:50,330 --> 01:00:51,090 Into nothing. 1195 01:00:51,330 --> 01:00:52,530 Into the blackness. 1196 01:00:52,770 --> 01:00:54,610 And I remember like, why are we doing this? 1197 01:00:54,690 --> 01:00:55,490 And. 1198 01:00:55,690 --> 01:00:57,370 And they said it was the whole. 1199 01:00:57,690 --> 01:00:59,570 Well, if we don't use it, we won't get it next year. 1200 01:00:59,930 --> 01:01:02,050 Right. Typical government. 1201 01:01:02,130 --> 01:01:02,770 Spending, uh. 1202 01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:03,440 Which? 1203 01:01:04,450 --> 01:01:05,770 Years and years ago. 1204 01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:07,680 I've seen things like that here. So here. 1205 01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:11,320 There is, we actually give a member free credit, so. 1206 01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:12,320 The budget is. 1207 01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:13,880 Is approved. 1208 01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:17,040 And you can see it's, I mean it is down to every single little purchase. 1209 01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:19,360 And while most of it is open allocations. 1210 01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:21,400 Whatever goes left doesn't just get spent. 1211 01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:22,880 It actually gets. 1212 01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:26,600 Set back to offset the number for you the next year and I should have. 1213 01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:29,090 Put on that, but that's that's very important because. 1214 01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:33,800 In the previous UFA administration, I'm talking. 1215 01:01:34,730 --> 01:01:36,650 1617 years ago. 1216 01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:38,450 That extra money would have been spent on something. 1217 01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:40,360 To be perfectly honest, but now. 1218 01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:41,040 It's not. 1219 01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:43,360 It's back. 1220 01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:46,480 They don't just spend the money and that again, most of this is open allocations, but I didn't want to point that out because I 1221 01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:49,480 did skip it. 1222 01:01:50,900 --> 01:01:51,340 All right. 1223 01:01:54,630 --> 01:01:55,470 Oh, that was it. 1224 01:01:56,550 --> 01:01:57,070 So. 1225 01:01:57,560 --> 01:01:58,280 That was. 1226 01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:02,040 That's UFA 101 in a nutshell. At least the governance. 1227 01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:03,400 And the budget? 1228 01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:06,240 Portion. How many questions about that? 1229 01:02:08,770 --> 01:02:15,130 That's either a good or a bad thing. I'm I'm hip deep in it myself quite often, but I'll just reiterate. 1230 01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:18,280 We are, and we're served extremely well. 1231 01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:23,720 The the arrangement that Holiday has with this organization has extremely beneficial for Holiday in my view. 1232 01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:30,960 I appreciate very much, I've come to appreciate very much that capital rotation blanks. It really does smooth out. 1233 01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:38,200 Those big costs in a way that makes it manageable for municipalities that have a regular. 1234 01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:43,520 You know, cycle of revenue that can't spike the way capital purchases could. 1235 01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:45,040 If we were employing it. 1236 01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:46,960 A different methodology. Think of us. 1237 01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:52,800 Our previous Chief Peterson, was it that created that this capital rotation? 1238 01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:55,440 That was one of the primary contributions he made among. 1239 01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:57,120 Many great contributions. 1240 01:02:57,240 --> 01:02:57,760 And. 1241 01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:01,760 I couldn't be happier. And so this was. 1242 01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:02,520 This showed. 1243 01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:04,280 Our increase from. 1244 01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:06,000 Last year, the current year at. 1245 01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:07,000 Four point. 1246 01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:08,640 11 or 4.12. 1247 01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:13,880 We're significantly less than that this coming year. Coming up, our call volume went down relative to the total. So I think we're 1248 01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:17,040 going to. 1249 01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:19,400 The 2.11 range. 1250 01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:23,120 So we're we gotta scream and deal this next budget. You're coming up too. So. 1251 01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:25,760 Anyway, appreciate. 1252 01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:27,120 All you do at UFO. 1253 01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:28,680 Or proud members and. 1254 01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:30,200 Delighted and. 1255 01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:33,160 But but yeah, there any questions or comments? 1256 01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:38,020 I just have a quick question. You were talking about, I know a lot of times in my neighborhood because we are a little bit closer 1257 01:03:38,020 --> 01:03:42,200 to Murray, we see Murray come in. How does that work? 1258 01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:42,920 With umm. 1259 01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:44,600 The costs. 1260 01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:45,960 Than expenses, sure. 1261 01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:47,040 Sure. So. 1262 01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:49,560 Well, first I'll say how things are dispatched. 1263 01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:53,840 So, and I don't know exactly where you live, but. 1264 01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:55,760 So for a heavy apparatus. 1265 01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:59,040 It's what is dispatched is. 1266 01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:02,080 So that for the funding is is that map. 1267 01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:03,160 Right, but. 1268 01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:07,200 For how they're dispatching heavy apparatus if it can get there within 4 minutes. 1269 01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:13,600 Then that heavy apparatus will go. So I don't know if you live within 4, approximately 4 minutes of 104. So is it always Murray? 1270 01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:14,640 Are you on the border? 1271 01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:16,200 We're yeah, we're on the border. 1272 01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:17,560 So it's probably always Murray. 1273 01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:18,560 For the most part. 1274 01:04:19,660 --> 01:04:25,090 Yeah, just noticing what I yes, Yep, Yep, Yep. So yeah, so, so. 1275 01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:26,760 How is dispatch Is is? 1276 01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:30,700 Is it? I'll get back to it, but just because I went, I already started. This is 4 minutes for heavy apparatus. So if if a heavy 1277 01:04:30,700 --> 01:04:34,440 apparatus can get there within 4 minutes. 1278 01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:36,840 In in in their zone, so. 1279 01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:40,600 It'll go into that 104 weird shaped box and then it'll. 1280 01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:44,000 It'll GPS it and say where is medic engine 104? 1281 01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:44,680 And. 1282 01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:47,240 If medic engine 104 can get there in 4 minutes. 1283 01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:48,680 It will dispatch them. 1284 01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:53,120 And if not, then it goes to what we call AVL Automatic vehicle location. I think is what is basically GPS. It'll send the closest 1285 01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:57,040 apparatus. 1286 01:04:57,200 --> 01:04:59,530 And we actually just changed that this year and I'll kind of. 1287 01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:01,160 Just go on to it real quick. 1288 01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:04,960 It wasn't a UFA thing but. 1289 01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:06,040 Back in the day. 1290 01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:08,440 When they people used to build fire stations. 1291 01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:12,170 They actually used to build the fire stations on the borders of the cities to keep other cities out. 1292 01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:13,240 And so. 1293 01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:15,800 What was happening is we switched to. 1294 01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:17,720 With the technology and we used to. 1295 01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:20,280 Start dispatching everybody just straight off GPS. 1296 01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:22,040 Was that places like? 1297 01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:23,600 West Valley were. 1298 01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:28,330 Taking a high purport because they're right. They built themselves around the border of Taylorsville because that's how. 1299 01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:31,040 What they used to do, they were taking a ton of calls into Taylorsville. 1300 01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:32,560 Right, which is not theirs. 1301 01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:36,720 So then so the Chiefs all got together and they decided to just proximity dispatching. So now. 1302 01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:41,080 Within 104 they'll if 104 can get there within 4 minutes. 1303 01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:43,920 Then they'll do it and then the ambulance is an 8 minute window. 1304 01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:44,680 Now. 1305 01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:47,160 Seeing that you're not within 4 minutes, it's going to go. 1306 01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:50,000 GPS and so you'll get and that's Murray. 1307 01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:52,760 Is not in house. Sit at Murray Station is not there. 1308 01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:55,040 It'll go GPS, it'll send the next closest unit which. 1309 01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:55,680 Who knows? 1310 01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:56,680 Who might that be? 1311 01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:58,920 So and that becomes a chief to chief. 1312 01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:00,280 Thing as far as. 1313 01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:01,600 Mutual aid, where they'll talk. 1314 01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:02,760 Call volume and. 1315 01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:05,680 Hey, you know you guys come in more than us or we. 1316 01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:09,930 And we come in more than you, and it becomes kind of a negotiation. Now, I can't tell you this with Murray. 1317 01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:12,600 Is we have a great relationship with Murray. 1318 01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:13,610 And I don't think there's. 1319 01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:16,840 Even though they may own a little section of holiday right there. 1320 01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:20,080 A typical house buyer takes. 1321 01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:23,560 3 fire engines and one ladder truck that is. 1322 01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:28,920 That is dispatched to one house fire. Murray doesn't have that whole city, so every house fire UFA is supplementing. 1323 01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:30,880 So there's a give and take there. 1324 01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:32,320 That is managed by the Chiefs. 1325 01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:33,120 And uh. 1326 01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:36,090 And that and that's why that is so if you don't live within 4 minutes. 1327 01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:37,560 And Murray's a little closer. 1328 01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:40,720 You'll get them every time right there. And so I know exactly where you live. 1329 01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:43,120 Probably. 1330 01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:44,720 I can probably guess. 1331 01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:49,500 But that's a, that's a shoe area close to that. Yeah. So you see, So it must be 82. If you can see 82, they must be able to get 1332 01:06:49,500 --> 01:06:53,720 there faster than 104. 1333 01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:55,400 Or maybe just 104 has been out. 1334 01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:56,160 Very much. 1335 01:06:56,240 --> 01:06:57,370 I'm actually interested. I might. 1336 01:06:57,920 --> 01:06:59,960 But that's how it works. 1337 01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:01,240 OK. Thank you. 1338 01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:03,840 Any other questions? 1339 01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:10,080 Can I just add to that, I don't know if Chief Burchett is doing this, but I know Chief Peterson. 1340 01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:11,440 Had a pretty. 1341 01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:14,960 Complicated matrix to make sure that mutual aid. 1342 01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:16,080 Penciled out. 1343 01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:21,200 And I was impressed with how. 1344 01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:22,600 Closely umm. 1345 01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:24,280 The mutual aid. 1346 01:07:25,040 --> 01:07:26,320 Really worked. 1347 01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:29,400 One community wasn't subsidizing another. 1348 01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:31,680 People were helping each other. 1349 01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:35,040 Pretty equally. 1350 01:07:36,060 --> 01:07:37,260 It's actually. 1351 01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:40,240 Pretty amazing how it works out, but yeah, that's he. 1352 01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:41,200 Cheaper than. 1353 01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:43,520 Pretty much taking everything cheap. Peterson's done and. 1354 01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:47,600 Kind of continued it. So I'm sure it's the same thing. Yeah, I've, I've had that conversation that chief. 1355 01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:50,880 And so UFA. 1356 01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:51,640 Is uh. 1357 01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:56,680 Is feels pretty even Steven there are a couple of communities that. 1358 01:07:57,240 --> 01:07:58,840 Are a little out of balance, but. 1359 01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:02,200 But so we're kind of. 1360 01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:04,010 Deficit with one. 1361 01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:05,840 Outside organization, but. 1362 01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:07,520 Have an access with another and. 1363 01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:10,640 It we're kind of worked out in the wash. 1364 01:08:11,370 --> 01:08:12,410 Yes and but. 1365 01:08:13,230 --> 01:08:15,310 There are certain communities to the South who are. 1366 01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:17,600 Not but. 1367 01:08:18,440 --> 01:08:19,120 We're OK. 1368 01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:22,600 Not only that, Mares that we have a lot of. 1369 01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:23,680 Stuff. So like I said. 1370 01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:26,760 We have our only, we have the only dedicated wall division that. 1371 01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:28,480 Frankly, everybody benefits from. 1372 01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:32,320 And then we have our own specialty, hazardous materials companies and owned specialty. 1373 01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:34,240 Heavy rescue companies were. 1374 01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:37,600 A lot of smaller departments, they have to dual specialize, right, So. 1375 01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:40,120 There's a lot of things that. 1376 01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:41,600 That we have plus our. 1377 01:08:41,840 --> 01:08:43,200 Most smaller departments don't have. 1378 01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:44,600 Investigators. 1379 01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:47,360 Bomber arson so and that gets utilized by. 1380 01:08:47,480 --> 01:08:52,560 By other smaller departments utilize ours. So there's there's give and take. It's not it's all not just all about call volume. 1381 01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:54,680 As far as the mutual aid type stuff. 1382 01:08:56,500 --> 01:08:59,490 OK, sorry, we're not taking public comment on the. 1383 01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:04,600 The date that the Fire Chief. 1384 01:09:07,050 --> 01:09:08,090 Cheapens. 1385 01:09:08,480 --> 01:09:11,120 Yes, I will make sure that when it is it and. 1386 01:09:11,280 --> 01:09:12,440 Again, it's going to be. 1387 01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:13,640 Closer to. 1388 01:09:14,390 --> 01:09:15,530 Actual fireworks time. 1389 01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:16,850 But I'll make sure it's on the agenda. 1390 01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:24,400 But we are happy to meet with you. You have my number. We talked before. I'm I'm happy. We're happy to be with you. 1391 01:09:25,480 --> 01:09:27,120 And not in this form if it's easier for you. 1392 01:09:28,590 --> 01:09:31,010 All right. Thanks, Mayor. Thanks. Thanks. Thank you. Thank you. 1393 01:09:33,270 --> 01:09:36,010 OK, but Speaking of that, the next item. 1394 01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:38,320 Up is discussion of the fireworks map. 1395 01:09:38,840 --> 01:09:40,360 Yes, who? Don't go too far. 1396 01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:42,920 Capping down. 1397 01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:46,320 There's a fireworks map discussion as the. 1398 01:09:46,920 --> 01:09:48,200 Next item on the agenda. 1399 01:09:51,250 --> 01:09:54,890 Yeah. So we received from. 1400 01:09:55,480 --> 01:09:57,960 Chief Watkins a letter. 1401 01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:03,160 Telling us that in accordance with state law, we need to adopt a map. 1402 01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:05,360 By me first. 1403 01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:13,770 So wanted to have a preliminary conversation with the council tonight, knowing that they need to adopt something next week. 1404 01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:17,600 The letter really outlines. 1405 01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:18,680 Process. 1406 01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:24,400 And not a lot of guidance. It sounds like that may be coming at a later time. Well, very soon, yes. I thought actually would have 1407 01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:30,040 come out already. But yeah, I think he might be doing it right now. 1408 01:10:30,480 --> 01:10:32,040 OK, so. 1409 01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:35,760 Will he, will we get that guidance before we need to make this? 1410 01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:37,760 Decision. Well, I can kind of. 1411 01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:39,200 Guided a little bit. 1412 01:10:41,480 --> 01:10:42,320 I will say. 1413 01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:44,600 And then, Todd, you stop me if I. 1414 01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:50,440 What the state has basically kind of said is that. 1415 01:10:50,520 --> 01:10:52,480 It's people, citizens rights. 1416 01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:54,320 To use fireworks. 1417 01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:55,080 So. 1418 01:10:55,680 --> 01:10:56,680 The Council cannot. 1419 01:10:57,040 --> 01:10:58,680 You cannot arbitrarily. 1420 01:11:02,520 --> 01:11:05,280 Restrict fireworks without certain criteria. 1421 01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:07,440 Is that a good way to say it? 1422 01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:09,680 Yeah, the state law. 1423 01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:11,720 State law for several years. 1424 01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:12,840 Has. 1425 01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:18,640 Identified certain areas where you can restrict the discharge of fireworks and it talks about areas of. 1426 01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:21,280 Dry grass as it talks about around. 1427 01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:22,960 Creek beds. 1428 01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:26,320 Washes like that. It talks about the urban wildland interface. 1429 01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:28,360 But then it indicates that. 1430 01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:30,600 You need to make sort of a. 1431 01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:34,200 A finding that there exists hazardous conditions. 1432 01:11:34,760 --> 01:11:35,280 That. 1433 01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:36,080 Have. 1434 01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:37,240 Historically. 1435 01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:40,290 Existed for at least two of the last five years. 1436 01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:42,640 To aid you in drawing your line. 1437 01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:44,760 Where you would be able to prohibit fireworks. 1438 01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:45,880 And so. 1439 01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:49,800 I know a few years ago the Council had a line along 1300 E. 1440 01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:51,160 In this city. 1441 01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:54,600 That was, for lack of a better term, I guess, kind of relaxed. 1442 01:11:55,440 --> 01:11:56,240 Last year. 1443 01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:59,040 But that had been your line. 1444 01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:00,000 Based on. 1445 01:12:00,480 --> 01:12:02,880 Sort of the environmental conditions we've had. 1446 01:12:03,320 --> 01:12:04,960 Over the last several years. 1447 01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:07,120 For a few years preceding that. 1448 01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:07,840 So. 1449 01:12:08,480 --> 01:12:10,000 As we look at that line. 1450 01:12:10,240 --> 01:12:11,490 You know, we think about. 1451 01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:16,320 The lack of moisture we've had this winter, all those things can weigh into your discussion now. 1452 01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:19,960 That you will be required to make a specific finding that. 1453 01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:21,680 There's a hazardous area. 1454 01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:24,330 That's existed for at least two of the last five years. 1455 01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:29,800 And there is specific statutory language that identifies areas of dry grass brush. 1456 01:12:30,480 --> 01:12:31,120 Cover. 1457 01:12:31,720 --> 01:12:34,160 The urban wildland interface or those? 1458 01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:35,000 Natural, uh. 1459 01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:36,560 Creek Ways. 1460 01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:38,440 Essentially Todd. 1461 01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:41,840 Can the fact that we used that line? 1462 01:12:42,120 --> 01:12:46,160 Within the last five years for a couple of be part of the finding. 1463 01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:50,400 That would because if we're looking at just this year, that's what you're saying is insufficient. But if we're saying like within 1464 01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:54,280 the last five years that 13th East. 1465 01:12:54,440 --> 01:13:00,400 It's it's good evidence of the fact that you made a finding to that effect in the last five years and it certainly. 1466 01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:01,480 If we go back. 1467 01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:02,280 Three years. 1468 01:13:02,360 --> 01:13:04,760 You know, for you certainly wouldn't be hard to justify. 1469 01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:06,040 Those lines. 1470 01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:08,920 I will say. 1471 01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:11,520 So I think it was, it's two years ago. 1472 01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:13,480 Gina that we expanded it. 1473 01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:17,000 Was it 2? So we've had two years of the non 313 hundred ease. 1474 01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:18,000 So I will say. 1475 01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:19,640 And I'm not. 1476 01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:22,480 Thing going for one or another but. 1477 01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:26,770 There hasn't been an increase in fireworks related incidents in those two years. 1478 01:13:27,200 --> 01:13:28,680 Just I mean grant on the. 1479 01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:29,560 The days of. 1480 01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:31,440 Legal discharge there's always. 1481 01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:34,040 There's always the illegal discharge ones and that's. 1482 01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:36,170 Has nothing to do with this. 1483 01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:38,120 But on the days of legal discharge. 1484 01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:39,480 From the. 1485 01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:41,360 Expanding of the times there hasn't been. 1486 01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:44,640 An increase another. 1487 01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:46,640 Tool that you may have is. 1488 01:13:47,550 --> 01:13:48,970 A red do we have? 1489 01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:50,480 The opportunity to pull a map up. 1490 01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:53,520 Stephanie commutes so they can see it. 1491 01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:55,120 Is a. 1492 01:13:55,280 --> 01:13:59,760 As like Todd said, you you can look at conditions, hazardous conditions or. 1493 01:13:59,880 --> 01:14:02,570 Or or historical fires which you don't have. 1494 01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:04,000 In the two of the five years. 1495 01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:04,960 But you also have. 1496 01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:08,640 A readably accessible line. 1497 01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:09,360 So, uh. 1498 01:14:09,440 --> 01:14:11,320 Something that's easy to enforce where? 1499 01:14:12,440 --> 01:14:18,200 It's not all over the place where well, over here I can't tell or I can't. I'm on the boundaries over here. I don't know. 1500 01:14:18,440 --> 01:14:21,160 So that that's another way to delineate. 1501 01:14:21,900 --> 01:14:22,660 Where you can. 1502 01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:27,120 Discharge fireworks is something that's easily recognizable and enforceable. 1503 01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:30,400 Is this the UFA? Is this the the? 1504 01:14:31,160 --> 01:14:35,200 Last year, is this the whole thing or just holiday? I was going to say if you saw Cottonwood Heights. 1505 01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:37,320 They have. Well, it's it's. 1506 01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:42,205 So confusing and they've had problems that they're actually gonna have to redo theirs a little bit this year just because it's so 1507 01:14:42,205 --> 01:14:46,890 hard to enforce. They just have pockets where you can and you can't and things like that, so. 1508 01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:48,250 That would be another thing, but. 1509 01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:50,880 It's not a. 1510 01:14:51,910 --> 01:14:53,890 It's not I don't like fireworks so. 1511 01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:56,240 We don't want them. It's it's that's, that's not. 1512 01:14:56,640 --> 01:14:57,640 Something that you can. 1513 01:14:58,000 --> 01:14:58,680 You can do. 1514 01:14:59,280 --> 01:15:00,160 Well, I think we. 1515 01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:01,880 You did create some. 1516 01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:06,480 Precedent. They were primarily based on environmental conditions. 1517 01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:14,370 And that those environmental conditions eased the last couple of years and so then we. 1518 01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:17,440 Applied that same precedent. 1519 01:15:17,680 --> 01:15:18,520 Given the. 1520 01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:20,410 Used environmental conditions. 1521 01:15:20,800 --> 01:15:23,960 It would appear to me we haven't had the data yet. 1522 01:15:24,400 --> 01:15:25,960 Although I do read the newspaper. 1523 01:15:26,040 --> 01:15:31,250 So it seems to me that those environmental conditions perhaps have changed again. 1524 01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:32,320 But but. 1525 01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:33,730 I'd still just want to essentially. 1526 01:15:34,320 --> 01:15:35,800 Apply the precedent. 1527 01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:36,800 That. 1528 01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:38,600 The Council. 1529 01:15:38,840 --> 01:15:42,900 Or at least have an opportunity to review that precedent and have an opportunity to reapply that precedent given current 1530 01:15:42,900 --> 01:15:46,960 environmentals to help us make that decision. 1531 01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:48,560 I would agree with you. 1532 01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:54,760 Mayor, that that that's kind of how I've been looking at this going into. I was hoping that we would get more. 1533 01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:59,560 Specific data as far as like fuel load and those kind of things. 1534 01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:02,560 And with. 1535 01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:06,600 The terrible snow year that we've had this year. So I don't know if that's. 1536 01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:08,400 Well, so I will say so that. 1537 01:16:08,480 --> 01:16:09,600 The fuel moisture. 1538 01:16:09,760 --> 01:16:11,440 Mm-hmm. That you can't predict that. 1539 01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:12,280 Because that's. 1540 01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:13,600 Because we could that could. 1541 01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:18,080 That could happen. We could have a lot of rain from now until then. You so you can't. 1542 01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:19,040 Predict that. 1543 01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:20,080 As far as? 1544 01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:21,120 Is. 1545 01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:24,280 The fuel moisture levels, which is which is a big thing. 1546 01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:26,320 Right. So that's one thing that. 1547 01:16:26,360 --> 01:16:30,080 When I said that Chief Watkins would come in, that was kind of where I was going to say where. 1548 01:16:30,200 --> 01:16:33,720 Say we had really dry. Say you adopted a map. 1549 01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:34,960 Of whatever. 1550 01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:38,440 The Council, and correct me if I'm wrong, Todd, that. 1551 01:16:38,920 --> 01:16:41,880 Under extreme conditions you can and you can change it. 1552 01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:43,920 Under so whatever you. 1553 01:16:44,040 --> 01:16:45,000 You is your map. 1554 01:16:45,320 --> 01:16:47,800 If there's extreme weather conditions that have persisted. 1555 01:16:48,280 --> 01:16:48,800 You can. 1556 01:16:49,520 --> 01:16:51,760 Restrict at that time. 1557 01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:53,040 So you're not locked in. 1558 01:16:54,370 --> 01:16:57,370 Yeah. But like we've, we've established kind of a. 1559 01:16:57,720 --> 01:17:01,120 A set of parameters from a couple of years ago. I'd like to review those. 1560 01:17:01,480 --> 01:17:03,440 And assuming we can get the. 1561 01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:06,320 Similar related data that we used. 1562 01:17:06,480 --> 01:17:09,920 In in those previous years when we've made these decisions. 1563 01:17:10,360 --> 01:17:12,640 To both restrict. 1564 01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:16,240 Completely like we did three to four years ago. 1565 01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:19,040 And then those eased because conditions changed. 1566 01:17:19,910 --> 01:17:24,730 Well, conditions have changed back or not, we'll just evaluate those parameters. 1567 01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:26,960 And stick with our. 1568 01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:28,800 Precedent, unless there's reason to. 1569 01:17:29,080 --> 01:17:29,920 Change the precedent. 1570 01:17:30,320 --> 01:17:33,600 So, Councilmember Gray, I think the answer question that data is not this. 1571 01:17:33,720 --> 01:17:34,960 Not not there yet. 1572 01:17:36,680 --> 01:17:41,920 We suspect we'll have it by the time we're required to make that decision. Well, not the, not the. 1573 01:17:42,080 --> 01:17:43,160 The the. 1574 01:17:43,320 --> 01:17:45,120 The data I was talking about with cheap walk. 1575 01:17:45,480 --> 01:17:48,210 Was going to be more of the fuel and moisture load and it might have been. 1576 01:17:48,440 --> 01:17:49,160 You know. 1577 01:17:49,600 --> 01:17:55,010 A couple weeks before the 4th of July or something like that, that was I was kind of alluding toward the more of the emergency. 1578 01:17:57,120 --> 01:17:58,720 We have drought conditions. 1579 01:17:58,840 --> 01:18:00,440 We can't have fireworks, period. 1580 01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:01,480 Type of thing because of the. 1581 01:18:01,560 --> 01:18:02,720 Fuel moisture levels. 1582 01:18:03,160 --> 01:18:06,000 That was more of the the data that I was talking about. Yeah. Oh, the. 1583 01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:07,840 But whatever data we use. 1584 01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:10,480 Because the timeline for us hasn't changed. 1585 01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:13,240 Right. No. And so we had. 1586 01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:18,120 Data that we had at the time we made the decision in those previous years. 1587 01:18:18,480 --> 01:18:19,480 We just need to have that. 1588 01:18:19,560 --> 01:18:21,040 The similar data that was. 1589 01:18:22,360 --> 01:18:25,120 That we have at the time of year we need to make the decision. 1590 01:18:25,240 --> 01:18:26,560 I feel like we had more data. 1591 01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:29,200 Did that like seemed like? 1592 01:18:29,360 --> 01:18:30,560 Yeah. So if we can. 1593 01:18:31,080 --> 01:18:34,920 Yeah, I remember last year we had a wet spring. 1594 01:18:35,040 --> 01:18:36,880 And then as soon as we voted. 1595 01:18:37,040 --> 01:18:39,320 To allow fireworks in parts of the city. 1596 01:18:40,250 --> 01:18:41,170 The rain stopped. 1597 01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:43,640 Yes, and by the time the 4th of July. 1598 01:18:44,710 --> 01:18:46,330 Came around. It was. 1599 01:18:46,480 --> 01:18:48,160 Dry as dry. 1600 01:18:48,920 --> 01:18:55,360 And actually I was really nervous and I talked to former Mayor Dally and said hey. 1601 01:18:55,800 --> 01:18:57,200 I think we ought to. 1602 01:18:57,320 --> 01:18:58,280 Look at re. 1603 01:18:58,680 --> 01:19:01,240 Restricting fireworks for the 24th and. 1604 01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:02,720 Couldn't. 1605 01:19:03,730 --> 01:19:06,930 Get enough people to back me on it. 1606 01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:11,840 I guess I say this because I'm nervous. 1607 01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:13,240 Not only. 1608 01:19:13,400 --> 01:19:16,200 The dryness that we've had so far, but also. 1609 01:19:16,600 --> 01:19:17,360 The fact that. 1610 01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:20,080 Our water situation is so dire. 1611 01:19:21,130 --> 01:19:22,570 I would be really mad at. 1612 01:19:22,680 --> 01:19:25,880 Somebody who started a fire with fireworks and see all those. 1613 01:19:26,280 --> 01:19:27,600 Millions of gallons. 1614 01:19:27,680 --> 01:19:28,680 Being used. 1615 01:19:29,320 --> 01:19:30,200 To fight it. 1616 01:19:32,020 --> 01:19:33,370 Yeah, anyway. 1617 01:19:33,560 --> 01:19:34,440 Let's try to get that. 1618 01:19:34,600 --> 01:19:35,720 Relevant data and. 1619 01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:37,640 For sure I can for because. 1620 01:19:37,680 --> 01:19:39,450 Council meeting next for council meeting next week. 1621 01:19:40,040 --> 01:19:40,760 Yeah. 1622 01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:45,330 Is there any other? Is there additional information? 1623 01:19:45,480 --> 01:19:48,640 That the Council is interested. 1624 01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:51,240 In in. 1625 01:19:51,320 --> 01:19:52,160 Looking at. 1626 01:19:53,320 --> 01:19:57,840 Well, I don't recall the specific data sources and data elements, but those should be. 1627 01:19:58,080 --> 01:19:59,840 I guess in the minutes from those years. 1628 01:20:00,160 --> 01:20:02,280 Of what those parameters were we used to? 1629 01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:06,040 To make those decisions. I mean, I'm sure one of them is going to be snowpack. 1630 01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:07,280 Yeah, and. 1631 01:20:08,360 --> 01:20:09,490 I remember that was 1. 1632 01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:12,600 Yeah, but I think we all know that and just. 1633 01:20:13,120 --> 01:20:17,440 Zero. I mean not basic drought. I think it's a basic drought measurements. 1634 01:20:17,640 --> 01:20:20,280 You know, oh, I think, I think 1 was like what? 1635 01:20:20,680 --> 01:20:21,320 Are we? 1636 01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:24,880 It's like our city in like what drought condition? 1637 01:20:24,960 --> 01:20:26,680 Is the city of Holiday Inn. 1638 01:20:26,760 --> 01:20:27,600 At that time. 1639 01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:28,730 I think that was another one. 1640 01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:32,120 And that was kind of all state fire Marshall stuff, as I recall. 1641 01:20:33,470 --> 01:20:36,330 And this is something we have to vote on next week. We do. 1642 01:20:36,720 --> 01:20:38,680 And that is that is state. 1643 01:20:40,160 --> 01:20:41,160 Law, I guess. 1644 01:20:41,680 --> 01:20:45,760 Captain Brown, I had assumed I that. 1645 01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:47,960 Perhaps Chief Watkins was. 1646 01:20:48,320 --> 01:20:50,640 More reticent to offer. 1647 01:20:51,720 --> 01:20:55,240 Guidance than say a previous fire Marshall. 1648 01:20:56,680 --> 01:20:58,600 Yeah, yeah, I will make sure that. 1649 01:20:58,720 --> 01:21:00,960 Therapy. I'm going to speak to him. 1650 01:21:01,080 --> 01:21:01,720 Tonight, OK. 1651 01:21:03,150 --> 01:21:05,850 Do we, I'm assuming other municipalities? 1652 01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:08,120 Are obviously on the same timeline as we are. 1653 01:21:08,280 --> 01:21:10,280 Are they or any further? 1654 01:21:10,480 --> 01:21:14,920 Along in the process of making their decisions about what they've done. So I will say this, I know that. 1655 01:21:15,160 --> 01:21:16,000 Codman Heights. 1656 01:21:16,280 --> 01:21:17,240 Is minus. 1657 01:21:18,600 --> 01:21:19,600 A couple of the pockets. 1658 01:21:19,760 --> 01:21:22,280 Mainly because of enforcement, because they have little. 1659 01:21:22,390 --> 01:21:23,670 Pockets all over the place. 1660 01:21:23,790 --> 01:21:26,590 Is going to be pretty much the same, and Mill Creek is going to be. 1661 01:21:26,710 --> 01:21:27,550 The same as well. 1662 01:21:28,070 --> 01:21:31,710 The same as they were last. That's that was, that's the feeling of the liaisons. They haven't voted on it. 1663 01:21:31,990 --> 01:21:34,950 But that was the feeling that they were going to get. They were first. Mill Creek is banned, right? 1664 01:21:35,350 --> 01:21:38,350 Yeah, it's way more strict than Holiday. It's more strict than. 1665 01:21:38,550 --> 01:21:44,630 Yeah, So yeah. And I thought Cottonwood Heights was more strict than holiday, too. No, Hardwood Heights has a lot of. 1666 01:21:45,390 --> 01:21:46,150 Checkerboard. 1667 01:21:46,350 --> 01:21:50,320 Goofiness. So the fact that Mill Creek can ban. 1668 01:21:50,430 --> 01:21:56,830 Fireworks on the East End of the city, which is basically as Far East as the entire city of Holiday is. 1669 01:21:57,700 --> 01:21:59,160 If I'm remembering what you. 1670 01:21:59,230 --> 01:22:01,550 Explained to me before it's because they never. 1671 01:22:01,870 --> 01:22:03,760 Retreated. They never allowed. 1672 01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:05,920 Fireworks, they just. 1673 01:22:06,670 --> 01:22:12,190 They just keep continuing. And so because of that, they can continue it. They don't have to justify. 1674 01:22:13,340 --> 01:22:17,880 Walking back, is that right? I don't think that's right. Oh, you know, that's right. 1675 01:22:18,030 --> 01:22:20,510 No, the same conditions in the statute. 1676 01:22:21,270 --> 01:22:22,320 Have to be. 1677 01:22:22,830 --> 01:22:25,160 A specific finding by a council and. 1678 01:22:25,790 --> 01:22:29,350 You may look to your past practice to say we have these kind of conditions and this is where we drew the line, but your past line 1679 01:22:29,350 --> 01:22:32,910 has nothing to do with. 1680 01:22:33,830 --> 01:22:36,150 Satisfying the statutory OK, good to know. 1681 01:22:36,790 --> 01:22:37,320 Thank you. 1682 01:22:39,320 --> 01:22:41,800 So we have a free hand to make whatever decision we feel best. 1683 01:22:42,580 --> 01:22:44,640 I just happen to think looking to precedent is. 1684 01:22:44,830 --> 01:22:46,430 Helps. I think it's happening. 1685 01:22:46,630 --> 01:22:50,910 Well, and I, I like the idea and I said this when we were making the decisions in the past, I think. 1686 01:22:51,870 --> 01:22:54,430 Government can be nimble in so few things. 1687 01:22:54,510 --> 01:22:58,270 But I think this is 1 where we can be more nimble and on. 1688 01:22:58,750 --> 01:22:59,630 Years where? 1689 01:22:59,990 --> 01:23:01,430 There's a lot of water. 1690 01:23:01,550 --> 01:23:02,150 I think. 1691 01:23:02,430 --> 01:23:03,310 I think we could. 1692 01:23:03,470 --> 01:23:05,750 Use restrictions and then years where. 1693 01:23:06,150 --> 01:23:07,230 We're looking at. 1694 01:23:07,630 --> 01:23:09,270 More drought conditions, I think. 1695 01:23:09,910 --> 01:23:12,350 I like the idea of being nimble and approaching it that way. 1696 01:23:17,390 --> 01:23:18,910 Any other comments? 1697 01:23:19,510 --> 01:23:24,870 So the only thing I would highlight for the Council if you and Stephanie, if you could pull up. 1698 01:23:24,950 --> 01:23:26,750 Are 25 map. 1699 01:23:27,630 --> 01:23:29,790 There was an area that was. 1700 01:23:30,590 --> 01:23:35,950 Included as a permissible area for fireworks last year. 1701 01:23:36,710 --> 01:23:37,390 That. 1702 01:23:37,510 --> 01:23:41,790 You may want to revisit if you stay with a map that looks something like this. 1703 01:23:42,270 --> 01:23:43,270 And that is the. 1704 01:23:43,350 --> 01:23:44,470 Park and ride. 1705 01:23:44,590 --> 01:23:47,270 Mill Rock and Old Mill. Oh yes. 1706 01:23:48,150 --> 01:23:52,510 I'm just going to say right now, yes, that needs to be revisited. 1707 01:23:53,630 --> 01:23:55,630 Is that because of activity we saw there? 1708 01:23:55,750 --> 01:23:56,390 Yes. 1709 01:24:02,410 --> 01:24:04,560 Yeah, I'd like to just advocate right now that we. 1710 01:24:04,630 --> 01:24:07,870 Don't allow that, regardless of other decisions that we make. 1711 01:24:08,070 --> 01:24:09,030 OK. Thank you. 1712 01:24:09,830 --> 01:24:11,070 All right. Anything else on that? 1713 01:24:11,150 --> 01:24:11,910 Agenda item. 1714 01:24:13,630 --> 01:24:16,350 OK, let's go to the business license fee discussion. 1715 01:24:28,610 --> 01:24:35,810 OK, so included in your packet is the answers to some questions that you posed. 1716 01:24:36,230 --> 01:24:38,870 The last time we had Fred Philpott. 1717 01:24:40,150 --> 01:24:43,190 With us to talk about the business license fee. 1718 01:24:43,350 --> 01:24:44,190 Study umm. 1719 01:24:44,950 --> 01:24:46,350 I wanted to just. 1720 01:24:46,430 --> 01:24:51,270 Spend a little bit of time going through that information and some past conversations. 1721 01:24:51,470 --> 01:24:53,790 Because this has taken some time. 1722 01:24:55,590 --> 01:24:59,750 Umm, just to remind you of where we are. And that's what Stephanie is bringing up right now. 1723 01:25:01,980 --> 01:25:09,380 So just starting at the very beginning, two years ago, the prior council authorized us to. 1724 01:25:09,950 --> 01:25:15,800 Take a look at our business license fees to determine costs associated with providing services. 1725 01:25:16,470 --> 01:25:17,990 To our business community. 1726 01:25:19,440 --> 01:25:23,380 The fees that we charge for those businesses can either supplement other general fund dollars or they can completely cover those 1727 01:25:23,380 --> 01:25:27,320 costs and that. 1728 01:25:27,430 --> 01:25:28,840 That that's up to you. 1729 01:25:29,550 --> 01:25:33,280 The study found that the cost of us providing services. 1730 01:25:34,270 --> 01:25:37,870 Two businesses is about a million dollars, 900. 1731 01:25:37,950 --> 01:25:40,000 $41,000. 1732 01:25:40,630 --> 01:25:46,230 And we've been collecting over the last five years. I think our average is right around $290,000 from business license fees. So 1733 01:25:46,230 --> 01:25:51,830 the general fund is making up. 1734 01:25:53,190 --> 01:25:56,630 Other tax sources are making up the rest of. 1735 01:25:57,870 --> 01:25:59,310 How we cover those costs? 1736 01:26:01,760 --> 01:26:04,160 The other thing that the business license. 1737 01:26:04,270 --> 01:26:10,470 Fee study found is that some business types have a disproportionate impact on that total cost. 1738 01:26:10,870 --> 01:26:13,590 So not everybody's the same in. 1739 01:26:13,790 --> 01:26:18,870 In what they cost the city to be a business here. 1740 01:26:19,630 --> 01:26:21,950 So if you could go to the next slide. 1741 01:26:22,110 --> 01:26:22,310 Guide. 1742 01:26:25,230 --> 01:26:29,070 Here's the guidance that we think we've heard from the council to date. 1743 01:26:30,800 --> 01:26:33,520 We think you've said that business license fees. 1744 01:26:33,630 --> 01:26:37,390 Should supplement other general fund dollars. 1745 01:26:37,630 --> 01:26:43,360 And that fees don't need to cover 100% of the cost of providing services to our business community. 1746 01:26:44,230 --> 01:26:46,270 I think we've heard that loud and clear. 1747 01:26:46,470 --> 01:26:51,430 We've also heard that business types that have a disproportionate impact should pay. 1748 01:26:51,750 --> 01:26:53,310 A disproportionate fee. 1749 01:26:54,550 --> 01:26:59,950 But we've also heard that businesses don't need to cover 100% of that disproportionate impact. 1750 01:27:00,710 --> 01:27:04,890 The guidance that we've had to date has varied between 25 and 40% depending on those business groupings and we'll look at those in 1751 01:27:04,890 --> 01:27:09,070 just a second. 1752 01:27:13,570 --> 01:27:15,720 I wanted to highlight what I think. 1753 01:27:15,790 --> 01:27:17,750 The answers to that? 1754 01:27:17,830 --> 01:27:19,270 Are in your packet. 1755 01:27:21,350 --> 01:27:22,990 Mean for some business group. 1756 01:27:25,280 --> 01:27:28,280 Many business groups will payless. 1757 01:27:28,470 --> 01:27:29,390 Under the new. 1758 01:27:29,510 --> 01:27:31,310 Proposed structure. 1759 01:27:31,430 --> 01:27:36,880 So 85% of our business licenses that we issue are renewals in our community. 1760 01:27:37,670 --> 01:27:41,350 And that means that most businesses are going to payless. 1761 01:27:41,910 --> 01:27:43,190 With the new structure. 1762 01:27:44,780 --> 01:27:46,440 Some businesses and. 1763 01:27:47,190 --> 01:27:50,190 Hang on just a second, I have a list of those groups. 1764 01:27:56,130 --> 01:28:01,890 So our most common business grouping which is the business professional and contracted services. 1765 01:28:02,510 --> 01:28:06,560 The new cost of a business license will increase. 1766 01:28:06,670 --> 01:28:08,350 But most will payless. 1767 01:28:09,390 --> 01:28:12,430 Restaurants both with and without liquor. 1768 01:28:12,510 --> 01:28:14,630 Will payless for both the renewal. 1769 01:28:14,790 --> 01:28:16,190 And a new license. 1770 01:28:18,110 --> 01:28:21,950 We do have a few businesses that are going to see an increase. 1771 01:28:22,310 --> 01:28:23,670 And that includes. 1772 01:28:24,710 --> 01:28:27,270 Banks. Convenience stores. 1773 01:28:27,630 --> 01:28:30,040 Grocery stores. Pharmacies. 1774 01:28:30,190 --> 01:28:35,910 Regulated home occupations, things that have to go, businesses that have to go through our conditional use process. 1775 01:28:36,670 --> 01:28:37,350 On and off. 1776 01:28:37,470 --> 01:28:40,710 Promised beer retailers and hotels. 1777 01:28:40,790 --> 01:28:42,030 All of those groups. 1778 01:28:42,750 --> 01:28:44,230 Are going to see an increase. 1779 01:28:46,030 --> 01:28:47,390 This new fund. 1780 01:28:47,750 --> 01:28:51,800 Fee structure that we've been talking about is projected to generate. 1781 01:28:52,030 --> 01:28:55,790 Approximately $70,000 in additional revenue. 1782 01:28:58,070 --> 01:29:03,390 However, that includes a lot of your conversations have focused on. 1783 01:29:03,630 --> 01:29:06,230 What do we do about assisted living and. 1784 01:29:06,310 --> 01:29:07,630 Nursing facilities. 1785 01:29:08,550 --> 01:29:10,230 So if. 1786 01:29:10,350 --> 01:29:13,790 The disproportionate impact for. 1787 01:29:13,870 --> 01:29:14,950 Nursing. 1788 01:29:15,150 --> 01:29:18,510 Residential and personal care remains up 40%. 1789 01:29:18,950 --> 01:29:23,390 That would equal that $70,000 in additional revenue. 1790 01:29:23,990 --> 01:29:24,750 If you. 1791 01:29:24,870 --> 01:29:30,510 However, wanted to take that to 25% the way you have for some other categories. 1792 01:29:30,790 --> 01:29:33,470 It would basically be revenue neutral. 1793 01:29:36,060 --> 01:29:38,000 So the next slide. 1794 01:29:38,270 --> 01:29:40,430 Looks at where we had ended up. 1795 01:29:41,190 --> 01:29:43,430 On disproportionate fees. 1796 01:29:44,540 --> 01:29:47,100 By groupings and that. 1797 01:29:47,310 --> 01:29:49,350 Occluded an adjustment. 1798 01:29:52,000 --> 01:29:56,000 To 40% of the disproportionate for some and. 1799 01:29:56,110 --> 01:29:58,430 Had reduced to 25%. 1800 01:29:58,790 --> 01:30:04,320 For those that you had categorized as generating economic benefits for the city. 1801 01:30:05,230 --> 01:30:07,070 Economic development related. 1802 01:30:07,150 --> 01:30:08,590 Groupings like. 1803 01:30:08,710 --> 01:30:10,390 Convenience stores and. 1804 01:30:11,980 --> 01:30:13,240 Gas stations. 1805 01:30:13,710 --> 01:30:15,550 Grocery stores. Hotels. 1806 01:30:15,750 --> 01:30:17,470 Pharmacies and drug stores. 1807 01:30:17,910 --> 01:30:19,870 And then 40%. 1808 01:30:19,950 --> 01:30:21,790 For a few other categories. 1809 01:30:24,450 --> 01:30:25,370 So. 1810 01:30:25,910 --> 01:30:26,990 Next slide. 1811 01:30:31,220 --> 01:30:36,620 This evening I think we're really looking for direction on assisted living in nursing homes. 1812 01:30:37,230 --> 01:30:38,590 Where you end up? 1813 01:30:39,590 --> 01:30:46,430 With them, also included in your packet is the answer to your question about adjacent communities and what they're charging. 1814 01:30:47,550 --> 01:30:55,230 So we're looking for direction as the council comfortable with us starting to do some outreach regarding these potential new fees. 1815 01:30:56,270 --> 01:30:57,190 Knowing that. 1816 01:30:57,270 --> 01:30:59,430 You won't adopt them until you adopt. 1817 01:30:59,550 --> 01:31:00,270 The budget. 1818 01:31:02,150 --> 01:31:02,830 In June. 1819 01:31:04,670 --> 01:31:06,550 And by outreach, tell me what? 1820 01:31:06,870 --> 01:31:12,235 Exactly. That looks like. So it could look a variety of different ways. I think we would use the business Advisory Board to start 1821 01:31:12,235 --> 01:31:17,600 some of those conversations. 1822 01:31:17,750 --> 01:31:19,030 With business. 1823 01:31:19,430 --> 01:31:19,870 Groups. 1824 01:31:20,750 --> 01:31:24,230 And then probably some direct outreach to. 1825 01:31:24,590 --> 01:31:25,550 Groups that. 1826 01:31:26,350 --> 01:31:29,630 Like assisted living in nursing homes, that might see some. 1827 01:31:29,750 --> 01:31:30,670 Larger impacts. 1828 01:31:31,590 --> 01:31:33,470 Just to get their feedback. 1829 01:31:34,230 --> 01:31:37,310 Would that be done through like surveys or direct contact or? 1830 01:31:38,230 --> 01:31:41,230 I'm anticipating that a lot of it would be. 1831 01:31:44,180 --> 01:31:46,540 I mean traditional kind of public engagement. 1832 01:31:46,620 --> 01:31:48,350 Flyers, that sort of thing. 1833 01:31:48,460 --> 01:31:50,140 With an opportunity than to have. 1834 01:31:50,340 --> 01:31:51,340 Conversations, yeah. 1835 01:31:54,570 --> 01:31:55,090 So. 1836 01:31:55,900 --> 01:31:59,245 In my view, though, the only one that's really outstanding in my mind again is the assisted living. And so I kind of wanted to hit 1837 01:31:59,245 --> 01:32:02,590 the details of those. 1838 01:32:03,060 --> 01:32:03,980 In terms of. 1839 01:32:04,180 --> 01:32:04,780 What? 1840 01:32:04,860 --> 01:32:06,260 We're charging now. 1841 01:32:08,660 --> 01:32:11,460 And and then. 1842 01:32:11,860 --> 01:32:13,060 What the proposed? 1843 01:32:13,180 --> 01:32:18,780 And we're looking at it, we're talking 40% then I mean the real element is the cost per unit. 1844 01:32:20,100 --> 01:32:22,740 So at 40%, we're saying that's 300 bucks. 1845 01:32:22,820 --> 01:32:24,340 A bed, essentially. 1846 01:32:24,980 --> 01:32:27,740 And how does that compare with what we're charging now? 1847 01:32:28,140 --> 01:32:28,940 And then? 1848 01:32:29,700 --> 01:32:30,700 I'd want to look at. 1849 01:32:33,730 --> 01:32:34,370 Equivalents. 1850 01:32:35,260 --> 01:32:37,540 Our surrounding neighboring communities. 1851 01:32:37,700 --> 01:32:39,380 Because it seemed to me when I looked at. 1852 01:32:39,460 --> 01:32:41,540 But I did a little bit of my own research which. 1853 01:32:41,980 --> 01:32:43,260 Not very deep. 1854 01:32:43,540 --> 01:32:44,980 That that was going to be. 1855 01:32:45,220 --> 01:32:46,900 Significantly higher than. 1856 01:32:47,660 --> 01:32:48,740 Neighboring communities. 1857 01:32:49,430 --> 01:32:58,070 So currently our base for a nursing, residential and personal care is a $200 base. 1858 01:32:58,340 --> 01:33:00,500 And $44 per resident. 1859 01:33:00,780 --> 01:33:04,620 The proposal would take that to a 330 base. 1860 01:33:05,340 --> 01:33:06,740 Plus 299. 1861 01:33:06,940 --> 01:33:08,460 60 per bed. 1862 01:33:10,480 --> 01:33:12,390 So it because. 1863 01:33:12,620 --> 01:33:14,700 Because we're going from a resident. 1864 01:33:14,780 --> 01:33:16,780 To a bed, it's hard to make a. 1865 01:33:18,300 --> 01:33:21,700 Perfect apples to apples comparison the last. 1866 01:33:22,100 --> 01:33:22,700 Sheet. 1867 01:33:24,180 --> 01:33:26,830 Called assisted living comparisons. 1868 01:33:27,020 --> 01:33:28,860 Also looks at. 1869 01:33:28,940 --> 01:33:30,630 What we would be proposing? 1870 01:33:30,740 --> 01:33:33,900 Versus where other cities are. 1871 01:33:35,550 --> 01:33:35,590 I. 1872 01:33:38,420 --> 01:33:40,060 And we would be. 1873 01:33:41,460 --> 01:33:43,230 Our base would be higher. 1874 01:33:46,470 --> 01:33:48,190 And at 40%? 1875 01:33:48,380 --> 01:33:49,900 The disproportionate. 1876 01:33:51,380 --> 01:33:53,300 Amount would be higher as well. 1877 01:33:53,380 --> 01:33:56,030 I thought we were talking about doing it at 25%. 1878 01:33:56,220 --> 01:33:57,670 So if we take it. 1879 01:33:57,820 --> 01:33:59,980 Where we had left the conversation was it? 1880 01:34:00,100 --> 01:34:03,220 40 if we take it to 25. 1881 01:34:03,380 --> 01:34:06,420 I had done this math somewhere, let me see if I can find it. 1882 01:34:07,380 --> 01:34:10,900 I think it would take it from 299. 1883 01:34:12,350 --> 01:34:13,790 To 180. 1884 01:34:18,530 --> 01:34:19,370 And even that. 1885 01:34:20,500 --> 01:34:23,300 Higher than everybody else, Yeah, we'd still be on top. 1886 01:34:23,860 --> 01:34:24,580 It is. 1887 01:34:25,220 --> 01:34:27,340 But our costs are higher than everyone else. 1888 01:34:28,480 --> 01:34:30,390 Our costs relative to our neighbors. 1889 01:34:31,420 --> 01:34:32,940 So looking at. 1890 01:34:33,060 --> 01:34:36,060 The disproportionate impacts. 1891 01:34:36,780 --> 01:34:37,820 That's what it. 1892 01:34:39,620 --> 01:34:42,380 So S Jordans could be as high as 901. 1893 01:34:43,060 --> 01:34:44,660 So they went from. 1894 01:34:44,900 --> 01:34:46,100 They went to. 1895 01:34:48,250 --> 01:34:49,630 5%. 1896 01:34:51,490 --> 01:34:53,650 Our costs are higher than Linden's. 1897 01:34:57,400 --> 01:35:01,910 Murray charges a disproportionate fee only to group homes. 1898 01:35:02,300 --> 01:35:05,980 Midvale does not charge a disproportionate fee for assisted living. 1899 01:35:07,560 --> 01:35:08,950 And Mill Creek is. 1900 01:35:09,420 --> 01:35:12,670 Limited it's $145 per bed with. 1901 01:35:13,100 --> 01:35:15,020 A $10 disproportionate fee. 1902 01:35:18,020 --> 01:35:18,620 Why are our costs? 1903 01:35:23,140 --> 01:35:30,500 That that is, that would be another study, whether it is just the number of beds we have, whether it is. 1904 01:35:31,180 --> 01:35:35,260 Practices within our homes? That would be hard to say. 1905 01:35:35,380 --> 01:35:39,620 Well, it Could it be that Mill Creek and Cottonwood Heights haven't reevaluated? 1906 01:35:39,820 --> 01:35:41,180 It absolutely could. 1907 01:35:41,380 --> 01:35:44,020 It absolutely could that that would make more sense. 1908 01:35:44,740 --> 01:35:47,260 Yeah, Cottonwood Heights is about to go through this same process. 1909 01:35:47,340 --> 01:35:49,340 Understand, but they haven't done it quite yet. 1910 01:35:51,860 --> 01:35:52,940 So yeah. 1911 01:35:55,060 --> 01:35:58,785 Certainly for document 40 versus 25, I think it's pretty easy to knock down to 25 and not feel too bad about it because we're 1912 01:35:58,785 --> 01:36:02,510 still on the high end of the market. 1913 01:36:02,900 --> 01:36:03,260 Yeah. 1914 01:36:04,340 --> 01:36:05,740 And then that would make. 1915 01:36:06,540 --> 01:36:11,940 In terms of our overall budget, we would make it revenue neutral, revenue neutral because the other even though we're. 1916 01:36:12,180 --> 01:36:14,340 It's getting significantly more revenues in this group. 1917 01:36:14,420 --> 01:36:16,540 Were losing revenue and. 1918 01:36:16,660 --> 01:36:17,660 In the other ones. 1919 01:36:17,780 --> 01:36:19,860 Like for the renewal process exactly. 1920 01:36:20,020 --> 01:36:20,420 Right. 1921 01:36:22,260 --> 01:36:26,060 These fees are these, is this the renewal fee or is this the new fee? 1922 01:36:26,800 --> 01:36:27,520 So. 1923 01:36:28,220 --> 01:36:30,460 The disproportionate fee. 1924 01:36:30,580 --> 01:36:31,660 Is regardless right? 1925 01:36:32,400 --> 01:36:35,920 It is but because the base will go down. 1926 01:36:36,460 --> 01:36:40,860 Many businesses will see a reduction, so the fee comparison. 1927 01:36:44,350 --> 01:36:48,150 We'll give you an example of that. Let's just take automotive. 1928 01:36:48,900 --> 01:36:52,340 Now I remember looking at that I wanted to compare the specific with the. 1929 01:36:53,500 --> 01:36:54,460 Nursing homes. 1930 01:36:55,600 --> 01:36:57,430 So that is about. 1931 01:36:57,820 --> 01:36:59,140 1/3 of the way down the. 1932 01:36:59,220 --> 01:37:02,780 Page and that is the $200 base. 1933 01:37:02,900 --> 01:37:05,060 Plus $44 per resident. 1934 01:37:05,740 --> 01:37:07,260 Versus the. 1935 01:37:07,970 --> 01:37:09,130 330 base. 1936 01:37:11,230 --> 01:37:13,230 Plus 299. 1937 01:37:13,660 --> 01:37:17,300 For a renewal though, that base goes to 87. 1938 01:37:17,460 --> 01:37:18,660 Plus 299. 1939 01:37:26,910 --> 01:37:29,110 But that's the 299 at the 40%. 1940 01:37:30,520 --> 01:37:32,270 Right, so it would be. 1941 01:37:32,620 --> 01:37:35,340 87 plus let's say 187. 1942 01:37:36,130 --> 01:37:37,350 For the disproportion. 1943 01:37:39,480 --> 01:37:39,680 OK. 1944 01:37:42,240 --> 01:37:45,790 But also, but I'm thinking I'll I'm getting more comfortable with that. 1945 01:37:45,980 --> 01:37:50,020 25% number, even though it's a higher end of the market just in terms of the. 1946 01:37:50,260 --> 01:37:50,980 Total. 1947 01:37:51,220 --> 01:37:53,420 Cost per month for rental for those? 1948 01:37:55,260 --> 01:38:00,380 I really wonder if Mill Creek and Cottonwood Heights do this if we would be more in the middle. 1949 01:38:00,540 --> 01:38:01,140 Or like. 1950 01:38:02,820 --> 01:38:07,540 More comparable to the market than what it looks like currently. Yeah, that's hard to predict, but. 1951 01:38:08,100 --> 01:38:09,020 Just in terms of. 1952 01:38:09,820 --> 01:38:11,180 We're starting to approach. 1953 01:38:11,300 --> 01:38:14,500 The the higher end of the market as opposed to being double the market. 1954 01:38:14,620 --> 01:38:15,740 At 299. 1955 01:38:15,820 --> 01:38:16,420 Yeah, that's yeah. 1956 01:38:18,460 --> 01:38:20,540 And I'm OK being at the higher end of the market. 1957 01:38:20,900 --> 01:38:22,820 Because they were providing a lot of up. 1958 01:38:23,580 --> 01:38:25,740 UFA services to those folks. 1959 01:38:25,820 --> 01:38:26,820 But then you talk about. 1960 01:38:27,820 --> 01:38:29,860 If you breakdown that annual cost. 1961 01:38:30,020 --> 01:38:33,540 Prepared by month compared to the monthly rental. 1962 01:38:34,020 --> 01:38:35,420 It becomes a small. 1963 01:38:35,540 --> 01:38:37,100 Smaller percentage of the total. 1964 01:38:37,460 --> 01:38:39,740 And it just feels more digestible. 1965 01:38:42,160 --> 01:38:46,200 Yeah, yeah, I. 1966 01:38:47,780 --> 01:38:49,060 I think I'm where you are. 1967 01:38:51,650 --> 01:38:52,670 I'm seeing nods. 1968 01:38:53,620 --> 01:38:57,580 Is everyone comfortable with that, at least as a starting place? 1969 01:38:57,820 --> 01:39:00,140 For conversations, I think. 1970 01:39:00,300 --> 01:39:02,950 For most of our business community, this will be. 1971 01:39:03,140 --> 01:39:07,180 Received really well because it will mean a reduction. 1972 01:39:07,260 --> 01:39:09,580 Or most businesses, right? 1973 01:39:10,940 --> 01:39:13,140 And an equalization and a. 1974 01:39:14,620 --> 01:39:17,980 Acceptance of more responsibility for their type of business when they are. 1975 01:39:18,660 --> 01:39:20,180 Occurring more constant to us. 1976 01:39:20,260 --> 01:39:24,620 Yeah. And I think you can make a case for especially for nursing homes where they're. 1977 01:39:24,900 --> 01:39:27,950 They are using our services very regularly. 1978 01:39:28,260 --> 01:39:32,260 Yeah. I'm also OK with the level of subsidy we're making, because they are. 1979 01:39:32,900 --> 01:39:34,620 They're a business, but they're also a. 1980 01:39:34,780 --> 01:39:36,340 Replacement for our residents. 1981 01:39:36,420 --> 01:39:40,460 Yeah. And they do get the residential exemption in terms of the property tax side. 1982 01:39:41,140 --> 01:39:42,260 So that I think we. 1983 01:39:42,580 --> 01:39:44,340 We do have some justification for. 1984 01:39:45,810 --> 01:39:47,270 Providing some subsidy there. 1985 01:39:47,700 --> 01:39:49,300 Yeah, but we've been. 1986 01:39:49,620 --> 01:39:50,980 Perhaps over subsidizing? 1987 01:39:52,060 --> 01:39:53,100 Yeah, I would agree with that. 1988 01:39:54,810 --> 01:39:59,530 Are we going to run into any problems? I know we talked about before that we have to. 1989 01:40:00,500 --> 01:40:03,060 If we pull nursing homes out of the. 1990 01:40:03,460 --> 01:40:04,500 Generating. 1991 01:40:04,580 --> 01:40:05,940 Income discount. 1992 01:40:06,420 --> 01:40:08,020 Are we going to run into problems? 1993 01:40:08,340 --> 01:40:08,860 On that end. 1994 01:40:10,060 --> 01:40:11,500 In terms of. 1995 01:40:11,700 --> 01:40:16,180 Over our overall revenue or just from a fairness standpoint? 1996 01:40:17,500 --> 01:40:18,340 I mean, I mean I. 1997 01:40:18,700 --> 01:40:20,100 Think we can? 1998 01:40:21,700 --> 01:40:24,380 I think some of the points that the mayor just made. 1999 01:40:25,100 --> 01:40:26,940 Will be sufficient. 2000 01:40:28,060 --> 01:40:29,780 We'll need to look at that, but. 2001 01:40:31,100 --> 01:40:33,340 At first blush, I feel comfortable with that. 2002 01:40:36,690 --> 01:40:41,670 I feel like it's really truly a legislative decision that's a judgment call, the legislative body. 2003 01:40:42,100 --> 01:40:43,140 As long as it's. 2004 01:40:43,260 --> 01:40:45,100 You know, it's got some rationale to it. 2005 01:40:47,050 --> 01:40:52,370 OK. All right. Well, I appreciate the direction. Thank you and we'll. 2006 01:40:52,540 --> 01:40:58,220 Will incorporate this into the tentative budget and I'm sure it won't be the last time we talk about it. 2007 01:40:59,400 --> 01:41:01,710 Gina, thank you and for everyone, I mean, I know we. 2008 01:41:01,780 --> 01:41:02,780 Contracted out with. 2009 01:41:03,900 --> 01:41:07,220 Fred for a lot of this work, but it's, it's been a lot of work and we appreciate. 2010 01:41:07,380 --> 01:41:08,300 OK. Thank you. 2011 01:41:09,610 --> 01:41:12,130 OK, Anything else? Otherwise we'll proceed to. 2012 01:41:13,010 --> 01:41:14,710 Retreat goals, yes. 2013 01:41:15,540 --> 01:41:18,790 So in your packet is a summary of what? 2014 01:41:18,900 --> 01:41:22,420 I think where I think we landed on our. 2015 01:41:22,580 --> 01:41:25,260 Our goals for the upcoming year. 2016 01:41:25,420 --> 01:41:30,860 I just wanted you to take a look at them and make sure that I got them all correct. 2017 01:41:31,700 --> 01:41:36,900 Because as you'll remember from the retreat, this was at the end of the night and. 2018 01:41:37,900 --> 01:41:43,460 Handwriting got a lot less clearer and we didn't have a chance to go over them before we adjourned. 2019 01:41:44,290 --> 01:41:49,850 So our priority, our first priority remains that we are a safe community. 2020 01:41:50,690 --> 01:41:51,330 We. 2021 01:41:51,690 --> 01:41:57,730 We prioritized regular predictable emergency response training as well as. 2022 01:41:58,450 --> 01:42:03,890 Replacing our soon to be leaving us Emergency Management Coordinator. 2023 01:42:04,130 --> 01:42:07,050 Talked about a couple of sidewalk fill in projects. 2024 01:42:08,050 --> 01:42:17,050 Working with UPD to make sure that children in particular are aware of the new state law and restrictions around. 2025 01:42:17,930 --> 01:42:21,770 E bikes and E motorcycles and the whole variety of. 2026 01:42:24,250 --> 01:42:28,370 Toys that are available and that we sometimes see on our roads. 2027 01:42:28,530 --> 01:42:32,570 We talked about opportunities for fire hydrant maintenance. 2028 01:42:33,010 --> 01:42:36,890 And then working to continue addressing perceived speeding. 2029 01:42:38,500 --> 01:42:39,300 Anything else? 2030 01:42:39,690 --> 01:42:40,610 In that area. 2031 01:42:44,610 --> 01:42:45,890 Priority two. 2032 01:42:46,290 --> 01:42:48,930 Excellent public assets and infrastructure. 2033 01:42:49,410 --> 01:42:52,370 Executing our plan for City Hall began working on. 2034 01:42:52,450 --> 01:42:55,490 Spring Lane or the park to be named later. 2035 01:42:56,570 --> 01:42:58,900 Maintaining parks at a high level. 2036 01:42:59,730 --> 01:43:00,690 Developing. 2037 01:43:00,770 --> 01:43:03,570 More beautification spots around the city. 2038 01:43:04,370 --> 01:43:08,730 Continue to explore opportunities for park restrooms offseason. 2039 01:43:09,490 --> 01:43:13,410 Exploring funding for active transportation and trails priorities. 2040 01:43:13,690 --> 01:43:14,250 And. 2041 01:43:14,410 --> 01:43:16,370 Floor plans for additional trails. 2042 01:43:18,400 --> 01:43:19,020 Anything else? 2043 01:43:19,170 --> 01:43:19,610 There. 2044 01:43:23,120 --> 01:43:25,620 OK. Third priority risk. 2045 01:43:25,730 --> 01:43:27,010 Responsible. 2046 01:43:27,130 --> 01:43:30,170 Responsive, efficient and sustainable city government. 2047 01:43:30,610 --> 01:43:33,730 Explore additional communications channels. 2048 01:43:35,170 --> 01:43:36,900 And we're going to talk about. 2049 01:43:37,050 --> 01:43:39,690 An opportunity there next week. 2050 01:43:40,690 --> 01:43:43,050 We wanted to share communications. 2051 01:43:43,170 --> 01:43:44,090 Metrics. Umm. 2052 01:43:44,170 --> 01:43:45,810 Highlight our website. 2053 01:43:46,410 --> 01:43:48,770 Engage at the state and local level. 2054 01:43:49,130 --> 01:43:52,290 Explore a state of the city or 10. 2055 01:43:52,650 --> 01:43:54,730 And or town halls. 2056 01:43:55,010 --> 01:43:58,290 And foster outreach and education on housing. 2057 01:44:01,480 --> 01:44:01,640 OK. 2058 01:44:04,130 --> 01:44:04,970 Priority. Umm. 2059 01:44:05,250 --> 01:44:09,410 For responsible development that enhances community. 2060 01:44:10,210 --> 01:44:15,290 Expand opportunities for commercial nodes, exploring CDA's where appropriate. 2061 01:44:15,690 --> 01:44:17,130 Clarify policy to support. 2062 01:44:17,210 --> 01:44:19,010 Support affordable housing. 2063 01:44:19,530 --> 01:44:22,490 Help businesses identify grant opportunities. 2064 01:44:22,650 --> 01:44:27,970 Support local mom and pop businesses and explore opportunities for targeted commercial development. 2065 01:44:34,230 --> 01:44:37,700 OK. And priority five, a great place to live. 2066 01:44:37,810 --> 01:44:43,290 Explore opportunities for us to participate or for our residents to. 2067 01:44:44,410 --> 01:44:46,970 Get Olympic fever. Some sort of. 2068 01:44:47,850 --> 01:44:49,650 Some sort of link to holiday? 2069 01:44:50,650 --> 01:44:53,010 Explore community theater options. 2070 01:44:53,090 --> 01:44:55,010 Activate the village center. 2071 01:44:56,010 --> 01:44:58,490 Explore taking events to neighborhoods. 2072 01:44:58,890 --> 01:45:00,980 Continue with the village lighting. 2073 01:45:01,210 --> 01:45:02,130 Explore. 2074 01:45:03,450 --> 01:45:05,330 A mural, fest or some? 2075 01:45:05,770 --> 01:45:10,530 Additional public art and both long term and short term. 2076 01:45:10,810 --> 01:45:11,770 Things like yarn. 2077 01:45:12,770 --> 01:45:16,010 And bring back the fun run. 2078 01:45:21,080 --> 01:45:23,040 Is that I'm not familiar with the fund run. 2079 01:45:23,410 --> 01:45:27,130 I mean, I'm fine. I'm fine bringing something back. 2080 01:45:27,250 --> 01:45:28,210 What was it? 2081 01:45:28,330 --> 01:45:33,250 So, and this also predates me I and I believe this is still on the list. 2082 01:45:33,370 --> 01:45:34,610 From Council. 2083 01:45:35,370 --> 01:45:39,050 Brewer, who is an advocate of the fun run. 2084 01:45:39,650 --> 01:45:41,050 I think it was. 2085 01:45:41,170 --> 01:45:44,930 Kind of a short run associated with the 4th of July. 2086 01:45:45,170 --> 01:45:45,330 OK. 2087 01:45:49,820 --> 01:45:53,380 I'm not seeing as much consensus on this one. I don't know. I. 2088 01:45:54,170 --> 01:45:55,770 I'm not a runner, but. 2089 01:45:55,930 --> 01:45:57,290 Lots of people are so. 2090 01:45:57,970 --> 01:45:59,530 I think it'd be a fun community event. 2091 01:46:00,250 --> 01:46:01,650 So I support it. 2092 01:46:02,760 --> 01:46:05,100 Should we leave it on and see what happens? 2093 01:46:06,000 --> 01:46:07,100 Yeah, take a look at it. 2094 01:46:07,290 --> 01:46:08,930 We might tie in charge of it. 2095 01:46:12,290 --> 01:46:13,370 He just volunteered to be. 2096 01:46:13,490 --> 01:46:14,210 Community, Yeah. 2097 01:46:14,290 --> 01:46:16,970 All right, Leader Charge. 2098 01:46:17,890 --> 01:46:20,130 Well, if this is the right list of priorities. 2099 01:46:24,730 --> 01:46:28,530 So if you take a look at this and have anything. 2100 01:46:28,850 --> 01:46:33,780 More specific to add to any of these categories anything that I didn't capture. 2101 01:46:33,890 --> 01:46:35,850 From our conversation a few months ago. 2102 01:46:35,970 --> 01:46:36,690 Please let me know. 2103 01:46:39,240 --> 01:46:41,600 Now I thought that retreat meeting was really when. 2104 01:46:42,330 --> 01:46:43,330 Fantastically. 2105 01:46:43,690 --> 01:46:46,210 And we had a lot of great engagement and. 2106 01:46:47,850 --> 01:46:49,850 I really felt really good about how that went. 2107 01:46:49,930 --> 01:46:50,850 Great, Greg. 2108 01:46:51,690 --> 01:46:53,010 All right, great. Thank you. 2109 01:46:54,970 --> 01:46:57,570 OK, let's proceed then to item. 2110 01:46:57,930 --> 01:47:00,140 E regarding communication options. 2111 01:47:03,310 --> 01:47:05,980 Oh, OK. So we're not doing that one. That's next week. 2112 01:47:06,870 --> 01:47:08,110 OK, so then. 2113 01:47:08,330 --> 01:47:10,730 Just to finish up then we are, we have. 2114 01:47:10,810 --> 01:47:12,290 Council meeting next week. 2115 01:47:14,000 --> 01:47:19,720 And then the first three weeks in May, which will be very budget focused I expect. 2116 01:47:20,490 --> 01:47:23,010 We closed session or no? 2117 01:47:25,000 --> 01:47:25,840 Well then. 2118 01:47:26,770 --> 01:47:27,890 That only leaves one thing. 2119 01:47:28,170 --> 01:47:29,050 Motion to adjourn. 2120 01:47:29,170 --> 01:47:29,850 2nd. 2121 01:47:30,370 --> 01:47:31,050 All in favor. 2122 01:47:32,330 --> 01:47:32,570 Aye.