[0:00] Of our local building authority. [0:02] So we'll proceed. [0:04] Oh I I see a flag inbound. [0:07] As we speak. [0:10] We can do normal procedure it looks like. [0:12] There it comes. [0:51] Thank you for the. [0:58] I think that's. [0:59] Left side of the. [1:03] Always turn this way. [1:21] Post colors. [2:06] I hope it all stay up there, yeah. [2:10] We don't pledge allegiance to that one anyway. [2:15] All right. [2:30] Video some repair work on that one. [2:46] OK. [2:49] We'll call the meeting of the City Council to order. As always, let's rise and we'll. [2:54] The Pledge of Allegiance. [3:00] I pledge allegiance to the flag. [3:02] Of the United States of America. [3:04] And to the Republic for which it stands. [3:08] One nation under God. [3:10] Indivisible with liberty and justice for all. [3:16] OK, welcome to. [3:20] City Hall West. [3:22] Or Holiday in Mill Creek. That sounds like a Marilyn Monroe movie title. [3:28] And let's proceed with. [3:31] Item number three, public comment. [3:34] If you wish to address the Council, we invite you to do so. Just come up to the podium, state your name and address. [3:40] Please keep your comments to 3 minutes if you can, or less. [3:44] Oh no, no, this is a regular City Council meeting. [3:46] And then we'll. [3:47] I think. [3:51] We are doing LBA first. [3:53] I thought we'd just do like through #4 and then go to LBA. [3:58] But. [4:00] LBA OK. [4:01] OK, so let's do LBA then. [4:03] Which is also public comment. [4:06] OK, so the the LBA is our local building authority. [4:10] And the LBA, just like our RDA board, consists of the City Council. [4:16] The LBA boards. [4:18] Mandate is to manage the. [4:22] The building authority for the project. [4:24] That's going on. [4:26] Other City Hall. [4:29] But for this meeting as well, we have public comment. [4:32] You can make them now. [4:34] Or when we this meeting should be pretty quick if you'd rather have your public comment and be part of regular City Council [4:37] meeting. [4:40] Meeting that'll be probably in about. [4:42] 4 minutes. [4:43] So that said. [4:46] For the local building authority meeting. [4:48] Public comment is open. [4:53] Are there any who wish to address the local building authority? [4:57] Seeing none, we'll close public comment. [4:59] And move to item number 3. [5:01] Of the LBA agenda. [5:03] Public hearing. [5:05] On the fiscal year 202526 budget amendments. [5:10] So we'll open the public hearing. [5:13] On the budget. [5:14] Amendments. Uh. [5:16] Are there any here to address? [5:18] Of the Council with regard to. [5:21] Budget amendments for the local building authority. [5:25] Shocking. [5:28] OK, seeing none, we'll close the public hearing on the LBA budget amendments. [5:34] And move to item number 4 resolution. [5:38] Adopting the budget amendments. [5:40] Is there any discussion? [5:41] Or, umm. [5:42] Christian, did you need to address that? [5:48] Good evening, Mayor and Council. This is a very straightforward amendment. It is just recognizing the fact that. [5:54] The 2025. [5:55] LBA budget, we issued 2025 bonds for the project and this is just us recognizing the transfer in. [6:02] From the general fund and then also the expense of the debt service for interest for that 2025 bond. [6:07] The 2026 debt service payment will be roughly. [6:10] Double this, maybe a little more, but this is just for a portion of the year that is. [6:14] That we had the bond. [6:16] For 2026. [6:19] Any questions? [6:21] Thank you. [6:22] Thank you. [6:24] Any comments or questions? Otherwise, I'm happy to take a motion. [6:34] Mr. Mayor, motion that we approve. [6:37] Can you pull that up? [6:38] Stephanie, so we can get the number on that? [6:46] LBA Resolution. [6:48] 202601. [6:51] 2nd. [6:52] OK, we have a motion and a second. [6:56] Let's go to roll combo with the. [6:59] Member. [7:00] Of course, one of our direct director right, our trustee. [7:04] OK. [7:06] Trustee Sewell. [7:08] Yes. [7:09] And Trustee. [7:10] Yes. [7:11] And. [7:12] Trustee Bradley. [7:14] Yes. [7:15] Trustee Quinn? Yes. Trustee Gray. [7:17] Yes. [7:17] And share votes yes. [7:19] Thank you. [7:21] All right, item number 5. [7:23] Regarding the minutes of the LBA for September 8th and October 2nd and November 6th. [7:28] Happy to take a motion. [7:30] Mayor, I approve. [7:32] I move for the approval of the minutes. [7:35] Of September 18th, October 2nd and November 6th. [7:38] 2025. [7:40] 2nd I have a motion to a second. [7:43] All those in favor. [7:44] Aye. [7:45] Any opposed? [7:47] Thank you very much. The minutes are approved. [7:49] And I'll need a motion to adjourn and. [7:52] And then also to reconvene in a City Council meeting. [7:56] So. [8:00] Second. OK, all in favor. [8:02] Aye, any opposed? [8:04] Like you were adjourned and reconvened in a City Council meeting. [8:07] And now what you've been waiting for, I think perhaps. [8:11] We'll go to item number 3, which is public comment. [8:14] Please. [8:16] If you wish to make. [8:18] Comment to the Council. Please come to the podium with your name and address and. [8:21] Let us know what's on your mind. [8:26] Oh yes, Trudy is here from the library please. [8:29] That was how it's done. [8:31] I'm Trudy from the library. [8:33] I just wanted to let you know, the tax season's over. Yay. And we had, we made just short of 900 appointments for people to have [8:38] help with their taxes at the library. So that was awesome. Wow. [8:45] Tomorrow. [8:46] We will have an. [8:48] In conjunction with America 250 celebrations, we're going to be doing oral history, so we'll have our sound studio set up. [8:55] People can come in with their own memory device, like a thumb drive. [8:59] And we'll have staff there and available to help them record their own oral history if they would like to. And if tomorrow doesn't [9:03] work for people then? [9:07] Just make an appointment with a librarian and we'll be happy to help. [9:11] On the 29th of April, we're going to have an all abilities activity at 10:30 in the morning. [9:15] There will be crafts. [9:17] And bingo for adults and teens with intellectual disabilities. [9:21] Um and then on May 1st. [9:25] At 10:15 there's going to be a Dia de Los Ninos Y libros. [9:29] Face painting treats. [9:31] Lots of fun. [9:33] And then on Monday, May 4th. [9:36] From 3:00 to 5:00 will be Maker Monday and you can come in and make your own monster bookmark. [9:41] In our space. [9:43] And that's what's going on at the library right now. Do you have any questions? [9:46] That's for me. Thank you so much. [9:48] Thank you. [9:52] Public comment remains open. [9:54] For any wish to address the Council. [10:01] Good evening. [10:02] Hi, Tom Sharlow. [10:04] 3930 S. 3030 E. [10:08] We spoke with you I think a couple of months ago. [10:11] About the. [10:12] Difficulty we had with the previous season's fireworks that were exploding all over our. [10:19] Cul-de-sac with the high winds that we're experiencing. [10:23] It was a. [10:25] It was not a fun night. [10:28] I realized at the time, and we've been told since there's things that we could have done to possibly prevent it, like. [10:33] Stand there with a sprinkler. [10:36] Pointed. [10:37] At the fireworks. [10:39] But we just want to make it very clear that. [10:42] These fireworks that have been legal. [10:45] I guess five years or so now. [10:47] Or just have no place in our neighborhoods. [10:50] They create circumstances where one neighbor fears for their house and the other neighbor. [10:57] Thinks it's a great thing. [10:59] As we mentioned before, we had. [11:03] Hundreds of thousands of sparks that you could hear landing on our. [11:08] On our roof. [11:09] Against our windows. [11:11] We had high winds that night which made. [11:14] Way more inappropriate than it already was. [11:18] We just want to. [11:19] Continue to. [11:21] State our feelings about this. [11:24] Frankly, I think if the. [11:27] If the people that made those fireworks. [11:29] Weren't maybe involved in. [11:34] Trying to. [11:36] Have more? [11:38] Business with. [11:39] With our neighbors. [11:41] You know, you see these. [11:43] Huge tents set up. [11:45] For the whole month of July, if not more. [11:48] Selling these. [11:49] So what I will say about fireworks. One more thing though is that. [11:53] The fireworks that we did have before these. [11:56] Nearly professional level. [11:58] Fireworks, uh. [11:59] Were put upon us. [12:01] By our legislature, I believe. [12:04] The fireworks that we had before that were. [12:08] Were fairly benign. [12:10] The little kids they. [12:11] They enjoy lighting them off and they would go up maybe 6 to 10 feet. [12:16] And that's it. [12:16] The ones that we see now. [12:18] Are fully in the sky. [12:23] And they're just very inappropriate in neighbors. [12:26] In neighborhoods especially. [12:28] With the drought we're experiencing. [12:30] With. [12:34] The fire that took place. [12:36] Around July 4th. [12:38] In Mill Creek. [12:40] Which was? [12:41] Tragic for so many people. [12:46] Anyway, thank you very much. [12:48] We appreciate what you do. [12:49] Thank you. [12:55] OK, public comment remains open. Anyone else? [12:59] OK. Thank you. We'll close public comment. [13:03] And proceed to item number 4. [13:06] Regarding the parking agreement adjacent Spring Lane. [13:10] Did we have a? [13:11] Any staff report or any other comments or? [13:16] We don't have a staff report. [13:18] Or if you have questions though, we'd be happy to answer them. [13:23] And I know that we've had discussions about this is the the parking agreement. [13:27] Between the LDS church. [13:30] Adjacent to Spring Lane. [13:34] And our opportunity to. [13:36] To continue that. [13:38] Agreement that the Granite School District had. [13:42] With that church building. [13:44] That agreement is now being extended to the city. [13:47] As the city has now acquired that property, of course, for the development of. [13:52] There was an issue that. [13:55] I presume was resolved adequately with regard to it was a liability or a. [14:00] Indemnification that there was. [14:02] Over overstepped a bit and. [14:04] But we've got that resolved, apparently. [14:07] OK. [14:09] I don't have any further questions. Anyone else have any questions or concerns? [14:12] OK. Otherwise I'm happy to take a motion. [14:17] Stephanie, can we go back? [14:19] Get that number. [14:20] Mr. Mayor. [14:23] OK, Mr. Mayor, motion that we approve resolution. [14:26] 2026-10. [14:31] 2nd. [14:32] OK. Is that adequate? [14:33] Just with the number. OK, very good. [14:35] OK, Thanks very much, Councilmember Gray. [14:38] Yes, Councilmember Quinn. [14:40] Yes. Councilmember Bradley, Yes, Councilmember Durham, yes. And Councillor Sunbol, Yes. [14:45] And share votes. Yes. Thank you. [14:47] OK, let's proceed to City Manager report. Thanks. [14:57] It's a much longer walk to get over here than it is in our regular building. [15:03] Good evening, Mayor and Council. [15:05] I have. [15:08] Actually, mainly good news to share tonight. [15:12] 1st, I want to alert all of you to a conversation that several staff. [15:19] And I had. [15:20] This afternoon with representatives from. [15:24] Udot. [15:26] Who told us that we are. We have been prioritized. [15:31] Our trail project along 215 from 23rd East. [15:36] To Highland Dr. has been prioritized as part of the Utah Trail Network. [15:42] For the next. [15:44] State fiscal year, so for fiscal year 2627. [15:49] That will be submitted as a recommendation from the staff level to the Transportation Commission. [15:56] And we're looking for approval of that funding recommendation by the end of June. [16:02] If that recommendation is successful, design could start as early as. [16:08] This summer. [16:09] On that section of trail. [16:12] The funding that is would support that project is a little different. You may recall that we applied unsuccessfully for funding. [16:22] For that same stretch through WFRC. [16:25] That section would have that opportunity would have required a match. [16:31] On the cities part. [16:33] This funding source would require no match. [16:37] There are some project expenses that they may consider a betterment that we may. [16:42] Wish to provide ourselves but that will all be sorted out in the design process. [16:48] Since that's one of our trail priorities, that seems like. [16:52] Really good news, and we'll keep you posted on that process as it works its way through the Transportation Commission. [16:59] And then as we. [17:01] Hopefully can get started. [17:03] Later this summer. [17:04] And you said from Highland Drive to 2300, we're doing that section first, OK, Yep. [17:08] That's the section that they have prioritized. [17:12] Honestly, based on our application to the WFRC. [17:15] And this is. [17:17] Does this tie into the? [17:19] Potential design of. [17:22] Path bottom of the highland. [17:24] How I'm thinking of a different? [17:26] It is a different one. This is a long 215. Eventually would like that to tie to Canuteson Park on the east and Big Cottonwood [17:30] Trail. [17:36] And then eventually tie into a trail network that would. [17:41] Provide access to Wheeler Farm. [17:44] And also. [17:46] Cottonwood Heights is proposing a section of trail that would. [17:49] Across 215. [17:51] And then go into their community as well. [17:55] So that is exciting news. [17:59] Wanted to make the council aware that Holly and Sean Tierlink and I had a. [18:06] Really good meeting with staff representatives from Senator. [18:10] Curtis's office a few weeks ago. [18:13] To lay the groundwork as we apply for additional potential federal funding for Highland Drive. [18:22] We'll see how that goes. [18:23] Speaking of. [18:25] Federal funding. [18:26] As you probably all know, we are in your mark is. [18:30] Still being held. [18:34] And we'll see where that ends up. [18:38] I am no longer. [18:40] Optimistic about it as a source of funding for our project. [18:45] But we'll see. [18:47] Last night we had what I would characterize as a really successful open house for the Spring Lane project. [18:56] We had a great turn out, I would say in excess of. [19:00] 40 ish people. [19:02] Lots of. [19:03] Passionate ideas. [19:08] Divergent positions, but lots of really great energy from the crowd. [19:13] And you'll have an opportunity to talk about. [19:17] The feedback that they provided and then some further direction next week. [19:24] There's a couple of leftover items from the Legislature. [19:29] Having to do with. [19:30] State holidays. [19:31] One thing that. [19:32] I had missed in the session is that the legislature did a. [19:37] Approve the alignment of Juneteenth. [19:41] With the federal holiday. [19:43] So. [19:44] Going forward, it will always be I. [19:47] June 19th. [19:50] And our employee manual. [19:52] Reflects we'll do whatever the state does. [19:55] So don't know who. [19:57] Change there. [19:58] The state also approved an additional holiday. [20:03] For state employees. [20:06] For Good Friday. [20:08] Although, uh. [20:08] It looks like it will only be 1/2 day holiday. I want to find out a little bit more about what the state is recommending there. [20:17] And then? [20:18] Bring that to you as an issue for your consideration whether you want to align our. [20:24] Our employee handbook with that guidance. [20:26] Or not. That'll be a decision for you. [20:31] And then finally, I just wanted to recognize. [20:34] We're here in this new building. [20:36] Of a very successful move. [20:38] And I want to publicly thank everyone who. [20:42] Help to make that possible. [20:44] All of our staff really contributed, but I want to highlight a couple of folks, especially we had a. [20:51] Move team that was led by Joel. [20:54] Joe Bolton. [20:55] He really did a heavy lift. [20:59] Stephanie Carlson coordinated. [21:02] Utilities Tech. [21:05] Internet service and appreciate the effort that they did. [21:10] Lena, John. [21:12] Christian and Holly. [21:15] Not forgetting anyone. That's the tube, right? Oh, and me. [21:20] We were the group that coordinated with that. [21:24] And on the court side, both Kaylin Olsen and Judge Chen were here on Thursday. [21:32] Doing a lot of packing and moving as well. [21:34] So appreciate everyone really coming together to make this happen and we're happy to be here. And. [21:41] Can't wait to go home. [21:45] Any questions for me? [21:48] Well, I just after what you said, I mean, I witnessed a fair amount of this moving and it really was a tremendous project. [21:55] And with a lot of work and. [21:59] The fact that you know you're loading up. [22:01] Truck Friday night at 6:00-ish up there. [22:04] And to see the state. [22:06] That we are in now to have our first Council meeting so quickly after the beginning of that move. [22:11] I mean, it's one week and we're. [22:13] This is the result of one week. [22:15] In terms of the move. [22:17] But yeah, tremendous effort. [22:18] I thought that Joe and the team. [22:20] Really. [22:21] Well, the proof is. [22:23] That we're here and. [22:24] Having a council meeting. [22:26] We're in a great facility and. [22:27] We got a great deal so. [22:29] Kudos to you and the staff. [22:34] OK, let's proceed with council reports. How about down at this end? [22:37] Remember Greg, this morning I had the opportunity to visit with. [22:41] The Bonneville Junior High Community Council. [22:45] As a follow up from their meeting before there's real concern at Bonneville. [22:50] The community. [22:53] Tasked with approving the safe walking route and one of the safe walking routes for Bonneville. [22:58] Says that it's safe for students unsupervised to cross. [23:02] The intersection of his 5600 S and Van Winkle, which is A5 lane. [23:07] Road we're. [23:08] Cars are going. [23:09] I mean, limited at 50 miles an hour, they're often going. [23:13] More than that, you have a lot of very young drivers getting into Cottonwood High School. [23:20] Something that I was made aware of in this meeting is that there are 270 students that attend Bonneville. [23:27] That live. [23:28] On the other side of that intersection. [23:32] So the community council did not approve the safe walking route. [23:36] Not that that really has. [23:37] Any long term consequences? But they're really looking at. [23:40] What we can do to make that? [23:43] Routes safer for students? [23:46] And reduce the congestion of driving in the neighborhood if we can make it more safe, because most parents end up just driving [23:49] their kids. [23:53] So one of the things that they're requesting from Holiday City is. [23:57] To work with Murray City and get. [23:59] Some crossing guards. [24:02] They're, I mean, they want, they would love an elevated footpath and I thought that was a little too heavy lift. [24:09] But I think looking at getting crossing guards. [24:12] Where we split the costs with Murray City. [24:15] Is something that I think we. [24:17] Could really look into it. It really is not a safe intersection. [24:20] For these kids. [24:22] For all of the reasons that I mentioned, is that something that I would? [24:25] Love it it's that we we could look into as a city and. [24:28] And obviously work with Murray City to. [24:30] What the costs on that? [24:36] I don't have anything tonight. [24:38] OK. That's member Bradley. [24:39] I don't have anything tonight. [24:41] Councilmember Durham. [24:42] Just a reminder about our Harvard. [24:45] Day event on a week from Friday at. [24:48] Wasatch, Waldorf School. [24:51] That's all. [24:53] Council. [24:54] I don't have anything. [24:55] OK, I'll have one thing I'll defer to Councilmember Gray if you wanted to chat about. [25:01] Chief Widdison of the HOA. [25:04] Oh yes. [25:06] So Chief Woodson and I had the opportunity to. [25:09] Speak at the. [25:12] Canyon Cove, HOA. [25:15] About. [25:16] The issues. [25:18] With Holiday City directly. [25:20] Relating to that particular neighborhood. [25:23] And I talked a lot about Gina's excellent work. [25:27] And ongoing work with UDOT and all other parties and trying to. [25:33] Come to a more permanent resolution for the care of the park and ride that has. [25:38] That deteriorated then. They were very grateful. [25:41] For that. [25:42] And also for our help in dealing with. [25:44] A lot of the deaths that they were seeing from the construction site. [25:48] Blowing directly into their neighborhood, Chief Woodson then also talked about. [25:52] The WUI map and how that affects their neighborhood is very good at. [25:56] Addressing their concerns and kind of helping them understand. [25:59] What? Umm. [26:01] What it means and what it doesn't mean as far as. [26:04] For them so. [26:05] Appreciate his efforts. [26:07] Appreciate. [26:09] Captain for setting that up and I think it was a good event. [26:12] Great. OK. And all my items have already been talked about, so. [26:17] I have nothing beyond that so. [26:20] I'll go ahead and take a motion to. [26:23] Recess and reconvene. [26:26] So moved. [26:27] Second, all in favor? [26:29] Aye. [26:30] Any opposed? [26:31] OK, we are in a work meeting. [26:34] Do you want us to stay in the seats we're in or are we moving seats or? [26:40] Stay right. [26:46] OK, very good. [26:49] All right, first item up. [26:52] Is it Captain Dan? Are you doing this next part? [26:54] OK, you're up. [27:03] All right. Good evening, Mayor and Council, and thanks for having me. [27:06] For a little UFA 101. [27:08] So this is the first time I've done this one. [27:10] So we'll see how it goes and hopefully it's not it's not too boring. [27:14] So we'll start we. [27:15] Clear the slides. Period. [27:16] I guess we'll give it a second. [27:21] I sent it to you. [27:24] Oh, there he. [27:31] OK. We'll start there. So just as the summary, we'll go to that second slide. So unified Fire authority. [27:37] Where the where the state's largest fire department with almost 700 personnel and we have 26 stations. [27:42] Ranging all the way from Immigration Canyon. [27:44] All the way down to Eagle Mountain. Eagle Mountains the the lone city that we serve in in Utah County. [27:50] The City of Holiday. [27:51] Is to be a member of UFA. [27:53] You can either be. [27:54] A direct member, which the City of Holiday is, along with Riverton, Cottonwood Heights and Harriman. [27:59] Or you can be a member of the Unified Fire Service Area or UFSA. [28:03] Which is a taxing entity and we'll kind of go into that a little bit later on. [28:07] The governance is made-up of a. [28:09] Of a board of. [28:10] Of 17, which is our. [28:12] Our 15 municipalities and then the Salt Lake County. [28:15] Two members or Mayor Fotheringham serves as the the chair of the board. [28:19] And then of course you have your station 104 and we'll kind of go over that which. [28:24] Delivers your. [28:25] Your response? [28:26] But then it it also benefits from being. [28:29] From our regional infrastructure of. [28:31] Of many specialties that we have from our wildland program to heavy rescue to hazmat and other things that. [28:37] The benefits of a large organization has. [28:39] So that's the summary and then we'll go on to the next slide. [28:53] OK, so this is kind of the. [28:54] The history of UFA and kind of how we got to where we are from. [28:58] From the city of holiday being a customer to a co-owner so. [29:02] Traditionally, they. [29:04] Most cities got their. [29:06] Their Fire Protection from Salt Lake County. [29:08] Fire Department. [29:09] And then? [29:10] As cities incorporated, they would contract with the Salt Lake County Fire Department. [29:13] But. [29:14] They were kind of a customer with no with no say. [29:16] So. [29:17] In 2004. [29:19] Unified fire authority was. [29:20] Was introduced. [29:22] And. [29:23] That way everybody has a say right now, everybody has someone on the board and everybody has a little bit of a more buying rather [29:27] than just being a customer with no say. [29:31] And then in 2019, Interlocal Agreement was refined to clarify member roles and governance. [29:36] And then Holiday solidified his position as direct member and co-owner with the voting seat on the board of directors concerning [29:40] direct oversight and strategic control over fire EMS services. [29:45] So and that was in 219 for that and that's a 50 year in a local agreement. [29:50] Next slide. [29:51] So this is just kind of a slide right here that shows. [29:54] That we have the one seat and that's Mayor Fotheringham at this time. So the primary decision making is is 1, but everybody gets a [29:57] vote. [30:02] But for financial? [30:04] For the tentative budget. [30:05] The final budget and budget amendments. [30:07] Now if any 2. [30:09] Two board members my of different entities so it can't just be the 2 Salt Lake County ones. [30:14] They can invoke a weighted vote. [30:16] And the way the weighted vote is is calculated as a as a combination of. [30:21] The budget and population. [30:24] I would like to point out that that's never been invoked, so as long as unified Fire authority has been around. [30:29] It has never been invoked the the weighted vote. [30:32] The next slide does kind of show where holiday ranks and the weighted voting. [30:35] So right there you can see. [30:38] 6.5% of the population and 4.33% of member fees, so they would have a 5.43%. [30:44] If anybody did invoke the. [30:50] So right here, so there's among the Unified Fire Authority board. [30:54] There is 3 board subcommittees of the Finance Committee of the Governance Committee and the Benefits and Comp Committee. [30:59] So. [31:00] And I know there's been some changes. [31:02] But Mayor Fotheringham, you're on the benefits and cop and finance both, correct, right? [31:05] So there has there has been some changes with the election. So the Finance Committee, the mandate is. [31:09] You know they conduct granular line by line reviews of the proposed budget. [31:13] May ensure fiscal transparency and I don't know if anybody has ever seen our budget book, but. [31:18] It is a phone book and it really, and it literally has. [31:22] Every dollar. [31:23] Where everything goes. [31:25] And where it's spent and we'll kind of go into the budget a little bit more later, a little later on. [31:29] But Unified Fire Authority and our CFO Tony Health, they've won awards for this budget book and the transparency so. [31:35] It's a boring read. [31:36] So if you ever wanted to look at it, that's online or I can get you a physical copy. [31:40] But it's pretty impressive. [31:42] The Governance Committee the mandate is to manage the legal and structural framework of the agency. [31:47] And then of course the benefits and compensation, they they balance fiscal responsibility with the workforce retention. [31:54] And so those 3 subcommittees. [31:56] They make the recommendations to the UFA board. [31:58] And. [31:59] I don't think it's ever happened Where? [32:01] As they're made-up of board members, usually their recommendations are. [32:04] Are usually always ratified because they do all the work and they do all the. [32:09] All the heavy lifting on those subcommittees before it goes to the UFA board. [32:16] Here is our organizational structure. You can see at the top we have the board and then the Fire Chief and the chief legal officer [32:19] answers to the board. [32:23] I won't read. [32:24] Go through every single one of these things but. [32:26] That's organizational structure. [32:28] For UFA. [32:32] And so here we'll go into it. So as a. [32:34] There's two more, like I said. So holiday Cottonwood Heights. [32:36] Riverton and Harriman are direct members. [32:39] And everybody else was UFSA member. So these are the major differences. So as a UF I say member, a separate legal entity that's a [32:44] special service area acting as a as a taxing district, whereas holiday as a contract in any entity maintaining total municipal [32:48] separation from the taxing district. [32:53] So. [32:54] Holiday peas. [32:55] UFA with a single. [32:58] A member fee from the general fund where the funding mechanism of ufsa is they levy lever the. [33:03] Property taxes on residents to fund the operations. [33:05] And then the other big difference is. [33:07] Asset ownership, so UFSA. [33:09] UFSA owns the fire stations and they maintain the fire stations where. [33:13] Holiday ONS their fire station. [33:14] And they maintain their fire station. [33:16] And we can get into what's better or what's worse or what's different sometimes. But. [33:21] For holiday, I think it definitely does make sense. [33:23] You know, if you knew you had three more fire stations to build in the future, maybe you look at UFSA because then you could split [33:27] that cost. But holidays? [33:30] And we'll get into that in the future, too. [33:33] Where station 104 is located and where our neighboring stations are located. [33:37] It's pretty covered. [33:38] For for having one station, it's it's it's a good idea and then you also are already 4 handed staff so. [33:44] You can't really increase staffing very much and that's that's your other big cost where? [33:47] You don't have to say. You would say to say if you're. [33:50] Eagle Mountain. [33:51] They have three stations. They're. [33:52] Projected to build two more and they're gonna. There's gonna be a lot of. [33:55] Costs coming up, so it makes more sense for someone like that to be a member of UFSA and split that cost. [34:00] Versus Holiday or Riverton or some of these places already built out, it's kind of a. [34:06] You get the same exact service though, that's the big thing. [34:08] And, umm. [34:09] You have total control over your. [34:11] Of your taxes. [34:12] So those are the big benefits. Is there any questions about that? That's because. [34:16] That's a big. [34:16] Point and I don't want to. [34:19] It's a. It's a. [34:20] Big difference for holiday. [34:23] Is a we're essentially charged. [34:26] There are a couple of variables, but the primary variable is our call volume. [34:29] Right. How? [34:31] Calls that come out of the. [34:33] First serve station and such. [34:35] One of the decision we have is you know three man cruise versus 4 man cruise. We wanted to go the best which is a four man crew [34:38] which. [34:41] Makes the most sense that that is a variable though. [34:43] That we could decide. [34:46] But in terms of our. [34:49] Yeah, we're not pooled with other communities. [34:52] We're only we're charged for our call volume that happens in holiday. [34:56] And of course we did. [34:58] Pay for our own fire station. That's another thing that UFSA does They. [35:01] They're essentially assessing all the. [35:03] UFSA members. [35:05] As if they're one big city in a. [35:07] A shared pool. [35:09] For their station costs and their operating costs. [35:13] But. [35:15] Relative to the other cities. [35:17] Holiday is a. [35:19] Low call volume relative to our tax base. [35:22] And so as a result. [35:23] We're getting a screen and deal. [35:24] Because we the same service provider. [35:27] That gives the same great service to everybody but. [35:29] The cost allocation metric is. [35:33] Really favorable. [35:34] So. [35:36] Great deal. Go ahead. [35:38] And we'll go over that with the call volume and things about in a little later on. [35:43] But you know, just just as another example, say. [35:46] Last year they. [35:47] Currents open another fire station. [35:49] And so when currents open to the fire station, they're a member of UFSA. UFSA met, all had to. [35:54] Vote and share that cost. [35:56] Where Holiday being a direct member, it didn't affect Holiday. [35:58] To open a fire station elsewhere. [36:00] So OK. [36:03] Next slide. [36:05] So this is kind of how our member fee system works, so. [36:07] And I'll get into this more. This is the overview, but I'll get in the nuts and bolts in just a little bit. But it takes your [36:11] first two areas, so 104 and there's a. [36:15] And you can kind of. [36:16] It's not an exact circle, but you kind of put an area around 1:04. [36:19] And and, and the calls that are running holiday and, and you get charged for that and there's kind of a give and take between [36:23] 1:12, which is up in Olympus Cove. [36:28] And 116 which is low enough on Wasatch and 1:10 which is 1 in Cottonwood Heights. So there's a there's a give and take between. [36:35] 104. [36:36] And then? [36:37] The neighboring cities and we capture all that. [36:39] And charge accordingly. And every year there's, you know. [36:43] I think for a couple years. [36:44] It seemed like the call point there, people were coming into holiday a little bit more and then this year. [36:49] Holiday went out a little bit more, so they went down just a little bit and. [36:53] Kind of minuscule as far as in the grand scheme of things. [36:56] But we do capture all of that. [36:58] So the the the cost is is based on the geographical zone and I have a map of that and we'll show. [37:02] And then? [37:04] And then that you have your loaded crew cost which we'll get into that, which is how much it costs we we charge either. [37:10] Do you have a three handed engine or a four handed engine? [37:12] And for those that have been to fire school. [37:14] You know the. [37:15] Big, huge difference. And as a firefighter. [37:17] It is a huge benefit to be on a four handed apparatus versus A3 handed apparatus. [37:22] For almost every call. So that's that's one reason that. [37:25] It's great. It is just. [37:26] Firefighters. [37:27] That a lot of people don't even like to work on 300 apparatus. [37:31] You'll have your overhead, which we'll go over and then the offsets, which can be the revenues, which is ambulance revenue and [37:35] things like that. But we'll get all into that total member fee number. [37:39] More in just a little bit. [37:43] Next slide. [37:46] Oh, OK. We are on the next slide. So the budget is preparing accordance with the the Uniform Fiscal Procedures Act for cities. [37:52] So UFA maintains a. [37:55] A fund balance at or above state required minimums and. [37:57] And they target 8 1/2% to provide a fiscal buffer for emergency contingencies and. [38:02] There's constant scrutiny, always throws looking at the fund balance and then. [38:06] That one of the benefits of economies of scale is the support services historically. [38:10] They represent 14 to 16% of the budget, which is, which is really good as far as the the overhead. [38:20] So the. [38:21] The major cost of the UFA General Fund is obviously personnel in overtime. [38:25] That's, that's always the number one, but what you get from that. So we maintain a hard floor of daily staffing across all our 26 [38:28] stations. [38:32] So in any business. [38:34] You know, staffing is always number one, but. [38:37] You Station 104 will have your four people on your. [38:41] Engine and two people on your ambulance. [38:44] Doesn't matter, they can be. [38:47] 30 sick calls We can have people deployed to a hurricane. [38:51] But we we have a minimum staffing which is which is what it is so. [38:55] Station 104 is always staffed, but that's a benefit because in some smaller departments. [38:59] Sometimes it's hard to eat up. [39:01] Sick calls or some of these other things? [39:03] But that's the one thing that we have is we have, we have a hard minimum staffing and there has been times when. [39:09] UFA. [39:10] There has been every once in a while that we go down but. [39:12] Holiday is way down that list because. [39:14] They're pretty busy so they usually they like to draw down on a smaller one, but that handle that only happens a handful of times [39:18] a year. [39:22] And sometimes for instance. [39:25] If we have people that can sign up for overtime. [39:27] So and that's usually how we fill vacancies, but we also have something called mandatory staffing, so. [39:33] It's just the unfortunate I I believe. I don't know if you PD has anything like this. [39:37] Where some days. [39:38] You may think you're going home. [39:40] But guess what? [39:40] You're not going home, you've been mandatory staff for that day and it's just the nature of the work. [39:44] And everybody understands it. [39:46] So, so that is one way we keep the minimum staffing. [39:49] It could be hard, like I said, in a smaller department. [39:51] And then health care costs and as a major driver and then the capital outlay. [39:56] Which we'll get into a little bit later on too, which is a our capital plan. [40:04] You don't get stuck. Well, actually the next slide I'll kind of explain it. [40:07] A little bit so. [40:09] We have a, we have a capital plan where we replace. [40:12] Everything of value in a predetermined amount of time, for instance, and we'll get into this a little bit later, but we buy. [40:19] Every. [40:20] Every 9 or every nine years. [40:23] Will buy Every three years we'll buy. [40:25] 5 fire engines. [40:26] And so there's a strict rotation. [40:28] Right. So as the and as you can see. [40:30] I don't know if you noticed that we went on it before, but for Councilmember Sunwall and Councilman Bradley, we just got a new [40:34] fire engine this last year and so. [40:38] The good thing about it is is that. [40:40] Holiday is not the pony up $1,000,000 to get a fire engine which is the. [40:43] Which is the cost of a fire engine nowadays. [40:45] You kind of pay into this capital outlay fund every year. [40:48] Which makes the cost predictable. [40:49] And then? [40:50] During the life cycle, about 10 to 12 years. [40:52] You'll get a new fire engine. [40:54] So we do that with everything from our. [40:56] Ambulances to our brush trucks. [40:59] To our radios. To our Scbas, which are our breathing apparatus. [41:03] They're all on timelines. [41:04] And so it makes things. [41:07] Predictable and cost. [41:09] I'll say a little story. I think it was in 2007 or. [41:13] Kind of right when I got hired, we bought. [41:15] I think 16 fire engines at once. [41:17] And it was great, right? Everybody's like, oh, we have brand new fire, brand new fire engines. [41:22] And, well, they all started breaking down at the same time. [41:24] And they all came off warranty at the same time, so it was a nightmare. [41:28] To predict costs and no one knew. And it was, it was, it was a huge challenge. So now. [41:33] As we every three years. [41:35] We purchased, we put an order in. [41:37] And then you know, and the other thing is. [41:39] We didn't like this on this last batch. We can change this on this fire engine or a little tiny changes. [41:44] It's definitely made a. [41:45] A more predictable. [41:47] For costs. [41:48] That's the biggest thing, more predictable and it keeps on a good rotation for replacing these apparatus. [41:57] OK, and here is your station 104. [42:01] So staff, like I said, a staff 24/7, four person fire engine and the two person ambulance. [42:06] And then it's it's perfectly placed. [42:09] And we'll go and start a little bit on a side note. [42:11] People love working there. It's a it's a beautiful fire station. [42:15] And the citizens? [42:16] Treat everybody great here. [42:18] The one drawback is is that there's a lot of night calls on holiday. I don't know if that's the same thing with the police. [42:23] Seems to be a lot of night calls which. [42:25] As firefighters, we hate that. [42:27] But it is what it is, right? But it's a beautiful station. [42:30] People love working there. [42:31] And it's. [42:32] Yeah, yeah, it's. [42:34] That's great. That's one of the places people like to work. [42:39] So and then the. [42:40] For the strategic outlook, so this is this is our mission statement to save lives, protect property and strengthen community [42:44] relationship with professionals and courage and dedication and then holiday retains total municipal autonomy and local property [42:47] tax control. [42:51] But you gained a. [42:52] You gain the protection of retail's largest and specialized fire agency. So now we're going to get into some of the nuts and bolts [42:55] of. [42:58] The budget, does anybody have any questions over the governance or any of the things that I just. [43:03] Covered. [43:05] OK. [43:08] So this is the the budget that was passed in for fiscal year 2526 and we'll kind of just go over a little bit line by line. [43:15] Up at the top are some of the some of the revenue so. [43:18] They always budget ambulance revenue. [43:20] And just bridge you is so. [43:22] For the state sets the. [43:24] The cost for ambulance rides, so we always have people that come in and say, oh, this. [43:29] Was this much and it is expensive? I'm not. [43:31] There's there's no way around that, but. [43:34] The state is due determines. [43:36] Ambulance costs. [43:37] Just just for people now. So you have a. [43:40] Your ambulance revenue, which we budgeted low. [43:43] URS actually went down. [43:45] And then stress test cuts so. [43:47] Cheaper chat every year. [43:49] He I cannot. [43:50] For the life of me remember which seat a famous CEO does this but every year he goes so just his different divisions from fire [43:53] training. [43:56] The operations to. [43:58] Medical training to fire prevention to logistics. [44:01] And he says. [44:03] Give me a. [44:04] Budget where you cut 10%. [44:06] Like if you had to do it, give me a budget that you cut 10%. [44:08] And they look at it and they decide what they can live with and what. [44:11] And what they can't? [44:11] But that's an exercise that he does every year. [44:14] Which is he is, he makes them go each division, go through a stress test and then interest. So last year. [44:20] We got a. [44:21] Over 3.6%. [44:22] For all increase all all employees. [44:25] A market adjustment for sworn civilian. So they they look at every rank and see where where we are in the market from Battalion [44:29] Chief to captain to paramedic to engineer. [44:34] And then they usually do about. [44:35] Have to 1/3 of the civilian employees every year with a with a look at their market. [44:41] Health insurance, we had a 7 1/2 percent renewal rate and hoping for. [44:44] Something similar about this year, but. [44:48] New ambulance again So so a new ambulance started in January 2025. [44:53] So. [44:54] Just for clarification. [44:56] So. [44:56] Holiday pay how we bill is either through a three or four handed. [44:59] Engine umm. [45:00] And then ambulances go into a regional. [45:03] A regional service delivery, which we'll kind of show you so. [45:06] So for instance. [45:08] Last year. [45:10] The City of Holiday. [45:11] Had a part-time ambulance, which was. [45:14] Part time employees on an ambulance. [45:16] Who they were staffed. [45:18] Six days a week. [45:20] I believe it was from 9:00 to 9:00. [45:22] And then through the call volume. [45:24] And just how they looked at it through data. [45:26] They flip-flopped. [45:27] That part-time ambulance? [45:29] With the full time ambulance that was actually right up the street here at station 106. [45:33] Because that would better serve everybody. [45:34] But because that moved and that's part of the regional service delivery, there was number. [45:38] Fiscal. [45:39] Changing between Mill Creek and Holiday, even though you switched a part-time, full-time ambulance, so the ambulance service is [45:42] just built in. [45:45] Does that make sense? So. So even though there was a. [45:48] So there's a new ambulance that was actually put in. [45:52] I believe in currents. [45:53] That is why, that's why that's on there for everybody. [45:55] Same thing with the Battalion Chief. We added the 4th Battalion Chief. [45:58] Battalion Chief serves around. It used to be 7 to 8 stations, now they serve 5 to 6, which is much more manageable. [46:05] And then and then I won't. [46:07] Go over the rest but. [46:09] Or even the smallest miniscule budget impacts are kind of. [46:11] Kind of noticed right here. [46:17] I will say the capital fund when you go back one more time. [46:21] So the capital fund transfers, so that was kind of a big one. I will point on that is that. [46:26] Things are just getting much more expensive. So when we go to, I'll show you one of our capital. [46:29] Our capital funds or our capital leases are one of our nine year leases where? [46:33] Where we buy the fire, 5 fire engines, fire all that, it's kind of like a down payment to lessen the impact because. [46:38] I don't know if you've ever seen it's actually been national news. Where? [46:41] They've actually these fire. [46:43] Fire apparatus manufacturers have actually like to appear in front of Congress because the prices of skyrocketed so much. [46:49] Like. [46:50] So now you know they're sitting at 1,000,000 bucks. I feel like five years ago there were 700,000, right? So that they're. [46:56] They're going up. It used to be. We still build on our fire engine and we get it in a year. [47:00] Now we're looking at 3-4 years. [47:01] So it's it's actually been. [47:03] I mean, maybe it's just national news to me because that's what I follow, but they've they've actually had to bring the [47:07] manufacturers in front of Congress and they've been kind of grilled about this. [47:11] So that's what that one is and I just want to point to that because I was over 1,000,000 bucks. [47:17] OK, so here's the here's the service demand. [47:20] And this is kind of how. [47:22] Things are built a little bit, so if you look at the top. [47:24] So holiday, what we do is we take a three-year. [47:29] We combined three years so. [47:31] So it's not just if you happen to have one. [47:33] Year were. [47:34] Call volume goes up in some in an area. [47:36] It's not going to change the funding very much, so we take a three-year rolling. [47:41] Rolling call count right here and so if you see. [47:44] I'll kind of go. So if you look at 1:04 and you look over. [47:48] They ran. [47:49] 5000 incidents. [47:51] Between 2022 and 2024. [47:53] In in their own in their own city and. [47:56] In in holiday. [47:58] And UFSA. [48:00] Gram, which is. [48:02] 112 which is Olympus Cove. [48:04] Which is 106 right here at Mill Creek. [48:06] 116 or 116 is actually not that actually down there, but UFSA. So which is really 112. [48:12] And, umm. [48:13] And 1:06. [48:15] They ran 32% of holidays calls. [48:17] And so then they get down to the to the. [48:19] To the 100% and then but then if you look down holiday ran. [48:23] 684 calls in Cottonwood Heights area. [48:26] And they also ran 654 calls in 112 UFSA. [48:30] And then? [48:31] 282 calls. [48:32] And when I in 116's area. [48:35] And so you take that and they kind of calculate a give and take on. [48:38] What calls are go where? [48:40] And then that's how they come up. [48:42] With the billing so which is pretty good because. [48:45] That way. [48:46] If let's say that. [48:48] Holiday was going into. [48:50] One 10s area, All the time. Just all the time. [48:53] Then at least that would be captured. [48:55] Fiscally, rather than just. [48:56] We're just giving it now if. [48:58] The fortune thing for holidays that they're surrounded by UFSA in some areas where. [49:04] It's not shared fiscally, for instance. [49:08] Say Magna which is in UFA and then. [49:10] West Valley. [49:12] If West Valley was coming in all the time. [49:15] More say that we're coming into Magna way too much. [49:18] Then it becomes more of a cheap to cheap thing rather than we can't just figure out fiscally, it actually becomes something they [49:21] have to workout and like. [49:24] How we're going to do this So so holiday is right smack in the middle. I'm watching Charlotte next slide and how lucky it is. [49:31] So if you can see where station 104 is, right in the smack in the middle. [49:35] And the weird shape that's around it, Not the green, but just. [49:39] That is what's called 104's first in SO. [49:42] Any call in that area? [49:44] Is considered. [49:45] 104 is called and. [49:46] For how it's built now, if you look at that little chunk on the northeast side. [49:50] 112 actually owns that chunk of holiday, so if any call comes in there. [49:54] 112 goes first because they're closer. [49:56] Right, so. [49:57] And then 110 owns a little. [49:58] Chunk to the South. [49:59] And then 116 owns that little chunk, the little boot there on the on the. [50:04] Southeast. [50:05] And. [50:05] So the good thing about that is, is that. [50:09] Holiday has. [50:10] It pays for one station. [50:12] But they have 4 stations that own a part of it. [50:14] Which is not always the case. So if it was if they were on their own fire department. [50:18] They might own all of it. [50:19] Right. So, so it's very lucky that they are right smack in the middle and they're surrounded by. [50:24] Other members of the UFA that own part of it and it's best for service delivery. [50:31] Next slide. [50:32] This kind of explains it a little bit more. [50:34] So. [50:35] If you just look at the holiday section, so a number of stations that own a first new area, SO4 stations own. [50:40] A first two area in holiday, which is like I said, if a call goes in there. [50:44] That station goes to it. [50:45] Now if you look at the other ones for instance. [50:48] Harriman. They have three in the 1st 2:00. [50:50] But they paper two of them. [50:52] Riverton they have 3. [50:53] They pay, they pay for three of them and then Cottonwood Heights, they have three, but they pay for two of them, so. [50:57] Holiday gets the best bang for the buck strictly for. [51:00] Geographical standpoint that. [51:02] They pay for one. [51:03] And then they. [51:04] Have for that on 1st stand and so the proportion of the station so holiday because. [51:08] Those other stations own a chunk of holiday proportionally. [51:11] You pay for 1.04 stations. [51:14] Total and then the percent of this member fee. [51:17] The Member. The member fee for the fiscal year 2526. [51:20] The percentage increase from the year before. [51:22] And then the actual dollar amount. [51:24] Cost increase. [51:26] Is that it's? It's kind of confusing. [51:29] So. [51:31] Maybe it's not. [51:32] But does anybody have any questions of kind of how that works? [51:35] I mean basically. [51:37] Call volume We pay for our own station. [51:39] And that covers the bulk of it, but. [51:43] But you provide service based on. [51:46] What's the best way to get there? You're providing coverage. [51:50] And our. [51:51] Cost share is is based primarily on our activity and we're not. [51:54] Pulled with anyone else but we. [51:57] Service delivery from. [51:59] Pooled service but we just pay for. [52:00] What's ours? [52:01] Regardless of where it comes from. [52:03] Yeah, yeah. [52:05] So you you pay for the for the crew 104 and it. [52:08] And if they were going out way more than. [52:10] It would be. [52:11] It would be captured. [52:12] Recapture the call volume, which is great. So you pay from what you you pay for what you get. [52:16] Which I think is great. [52:19] OK, go to the. [52:22] So here's just another way. This is. This is the. [52:25] Exactly how the member fee is. [52:27] And so if you if you look at it. [52:29] Pretty small. You look at 1:04 so. [52:32] The first part is the. [52:34] The engine of the truck, so you can see there's two different numbers so you can you can get either get a three or four handed. [52:39] Apparatus. Almost all of them are four handed apparatus. [52:42] And then you get the service delivery. [52:44] The service delivery is your ambulance service, it's your battalion chiefs. [52:48] It's your heavy rescue and your hazmat. [52:51] Then you give your support, which is your administrative support. So that would be logistics, it'll be. [52:56] HR It'll be our legal department. [52:59] Things like that, the administrative side. [53:01] And then you have your your capital fund. [53:03] Which we'll get, we'll go again. And that's that's how we buy all our stuff and so that. [53:07] Even though we might get. [53:08] 5 new fire engines. [53:10] In a year. [53:11] That is not going to. [53:12] Go like this. [53:13] Which is, which is the whole plane? [53:15] Instance to keep a predictable. [53:17] To keep a predictable. [53:20] Budget and then you can kind of go over and then it just adds up. So it just. [53:25] Over here, it'll show again. It has Cottonwood. [53:27] Holiday, Herriman, Riverton and then UFSA. [53:30] And then it'll add up everything to 100%. It's just another way of showing it's more detailed. [53:34] Than the view of the previous line. [53:41] Any questions? [53:43] OK, right here. So again, this is these are some of the things you get from the member for you so operations that's. [53:49] The people on the fire engines and the people that work, that's obviously the biggest expense, special operations, those are [53:53] hazardous materials and our heavy rescue response. [53:57] Camp Williams. [53:59] This is actually great, so we provide. [54:01] If anybody remembers the. [54:03] It's the machine gunfire of 2000 and. [54:07] 10 You remember when that came over? [54:10] So traditionally. [54:12] Camp Williams had their own. [54:13] Fire department or their own Fire Protection. [54:15] After that. [54:16] They got rid of them and they. [54:18] Got with. [54:19] UFA and so UFA is providing. [54:21] Has been providing fire service ever since to Camp Williams. [54:24] With a it's basically a wildland firefighter crew. [54:27] And that's their job is to protect campaigns. But the great thing about it is. [54:30] Is if if there's nothing going on at Camp Williams. [54:33] And say. [54:35] Wildland fire breaks out on holiday. We can actually call them out. [54:37] And they can actually come out and do initial attack and things like that for us, which is great. [54:41] Which doesn't cost anything. [54:44] Then you have fire prevention so. [54:46] If you look over here to the holiday you pay 66,000 but you have your own. [54:50] Erie Fire Marshall, which is great, along with Chief Wade Watkins, who you'll probably see and. [54:55] And, umm. [54:57] And I'll just. [54:58] Say this about fireworks so. [54:59] You met with Chief Watkins, correct? [55:01] So I actually had a meeting with him yesterday about about fireworks and about weather because everybody's worried about that. And [55:05] as it gets closer because it's too late to predict. [55:08] He is going to come in and give a presentation. [55:11] And uh. [55:12] Because it's it's up to the council and everybody, he'll come in and give. [55:16] Updated information on. [55:18] Fuel low or moisture and fuels and things like that for you to make a decision. [55:22] But that's another thing you get from our fire prevention. You get a, you get a, a fire Marshall and this fire training EMS [55:26] special enforcement, which is our, our. [55:31] Bomb and arson. We have our dogs and our arson investigators. [55:36] Urban search and rescue so. [55:39] Unified Fire Authority is the sponsoring agency for. [55:43] Utah Task Force One, which is 1 of 28 FEMA search and rescue teams. [55:46] Which is made-up of firefighters and civilians all around. [55:50] All around Salt Lake County, even further. [55:52] But it's it's, it's funded by FEMA and then. [55:55] But you don't like unified fire authorities and sponsoring agencies? We're actually located out in our logistics building in West [55:58] Jordan. [56:01] And then you have our our wildland division. [56:04] Which if you look over holidays portion is. [56:07] 17,870. [56:09] And what that is, is we have a whole violin division with. [56:12] With hand crews. With ten person hand crews. [56:15] They also have 3. [56:17] Fire engines that go out and generally we go out and they deploy. [56:20] To to different fires around the country. [56:23] But. [56:23] When they're in, when they're in house, they're. [56:25] At our beck and call, so if they're in town, we can call them. [56:28] And they also have a fuels crew under the wall. [56:32] Can come and make them. They'll do mitigation work for holiday. [56:34] And so actually you'll be getting e-mail from me. [56:37] And we're looking for mitigation work and holiday for they can go and do some things and you know, but the priority being. [56:43] City property. [56:44] But you'll get an e-mail from me about that and then. [56:47] Emergency Management, and you can see there's actually a refund in Emergency Management. [56:51] So it's Salt Lake County Emergency Management. [56:53] But because they're located in UFA headquarters. [56:56] We get a little bit of a refund for that because we handle their payroll and and they were RHR and things like that. [57:01] And then there's finance admin information outreach. [57:04] Human resources Logistics. [57:07] And then the capital fund transfer and that gives you the total cost, so you can see holiday. [57:11] 3.198. [57:12] Million. [57:15] And then OK. [57:18] Next slide. [57:19] So here's here's just an example of SO. [57:23] Unified UFA. We do. [57:25] We have 3. [57:26] Nine month. [57:27] They call them leases or loans that. [57:30] That we are 9 year, nine year, nine year. Thank you. 9 year so. [57:33] So when one falls off. [57:35] Another one comes on. When one falls off, another comes on. And here's just the example of one of them so. [57:39] Type 1 fire engines. [57:41] Five of them, which is that's like the fire engine here in Holiday. That's the tip. When you think of a fire engine, it's a that's [57:44] what is a Type 1 fire engine. [57:48] A type 1/3 engine is is kind of a. [57:51] It's got the capabilities of. [57:53] Type one fire engine but it's kind of. [57:55] Has some wildland abilities at the same time. [57:58] It can do both. [58:00] But in a municipal area. [58:02] We just have them in a couple places. Harriman has one. [58:05] Our Canyon station has them because they're more like. [58:07] The the more likely to have. [58:09] A house buyer or a wildland fire than a place like holiday. [58:13] And then you have a tractor drawn. [58:15] Aerial apparatus, let's say. [58:16] We call them tillers, so it's the ladder truck the guy drives in the back. [58:19] Or the girl drives in the back. [58:20] These emails. [58:21] 5 ambulances, 1 heavy rescue apparatus. [58:25] 3 mechanic trucks. I won't go through the whole thing but you can look. [58:28] And that's, that's an example of things on our capital replacement fund like this we have, we have 3. [58:32] Nine year ones and 1-6 year one. [58:34] And we'll kind of go over the six year one, but. [58:36] The six year 1 is just for the. [58:38] Usually those things don't last nine years and it's something that we want to replace all the same time. For instance, radios. [58:43] We'll get, we'll replace all the radios at the same time because it's not one of those things where. [58:48] Well, what kind of radio am I working with today? We want it all to be the same. [58:51] Or cardiac monitors. When we replace the cardiac monitors, we replace them all at once because we don't want different cardiac [58:55] monitors out there at the same time. So those are and. [58:59] Usually we don't keep those things for nine years. So those are examples of those kind of leases and we'll kind of go on that. [59:04] On the next slide. [59:11] This is just more of this SO. [59:14] Oh, these are, these are our cash purchases. I'm sorry. So these are things that just wouldn't make sense. [59:18] So. [59:20] Body truck with chipper. A couple some IT equipment. [59:24] Some software stuff. [59:25] This is cast purchases that we did last year. [59:27] And the big ones. [59:31] And here's our example of our capital replacement plan, so you can see up at the top. [59:36] You have your fiscal every three years. [59:38] Kind of tells you what you're going to buy. [59:40] And I won't go down it but. [59:42] Everything is captured. [59:47] Which is good. One thing that I forgot to go over. [59:50] Which I think is important. [59:51] Important is can we go back? I'll tell you when to stop. [59:55] Go back, go back. [59:57] OK, great. [1:00:00] Let's see, go back one more. [1:00:04] Yes, so on this one. [1:00:06] I just wanted to see on. [1:00:08] I wanted to point something better on the. [1:00:12] The member free before the. [1:00:14] The member fee credit. [1:00:15] So. [1:00:17] I always like to tell the story. [1:00:18] So when I was in the Marine Corps before I. [1:00:22] Became a firefighter. [1:00:24] And I always remember this. [1:00:25] We went to the Philippines for a training. [1:00:27] And. [1:00:28] We're only over there for. [1:00:30] Four or five days. I can't remember exactly how much. [1:00:32] This is an. [1:00:33] 2004 since this was a long time ago. [1:00:35] And. [1:00:36] Our trainings all got rained out so before we got back on the boat. [1:00:41] We sat there and in the middle of the night. [1:00:44] We shall. I can't remember. [1:00:47] Hundreds and hundreds of thousands of rounds. [1:00:50] Into nothing. [1:00:51] Into the blackness. [1:00:52] And I remember like, why are we doing this? [1:00:54] And. [1:00:55] And they said it was the whole. [1:00:57] Well, if we don't use it, we won't get it next year. [1:00:59] Right. Typical government. [1:01:02] Spending, uh. [1:01:02] Which? [1:01:04] Years and years ago. [1:01:05] I've seen things like that here. So here. [1:01:08] There is, we actually give a member free credit, so. [1:01:11] The budget is. [1:01:12] Is approved. [1:01:14] And you can see it's, I mean it is down to every single little purchase. [1:01:17] And while most of it is open allocations. [1:01:19] Whatever goes left doesn't just get spent. [1:01:21] It actually gets. [1:01:23] Set back to offset the number for you the next year and I should have. [1:01:26] Put on that, but that's that's very important because. [1:01:30] In the previous UFA administration, I'm talking. [1:01:34] 1617 years ago. [1:01:36] That extra money would have been spent on something. [1:01:38] To be perfectly honest, but now. [1:01:40] It's not. [1:01:41] It's back. [1:01:43] They don't just spend the money and that again, most of this is open allocations, but I didn't want to point that out because I [1:01:46] did skip it. [1:01:50] All right. [1:01:54] Oh, that was it. [1:01:56] So. [1:01:57] That was. [1:01:58] That's UFA 101 in a nutshell. At least the governance. [1:02:02] And the budget? [1:02:03] Portion. How many questions about that? [1:02:08] That's either a good or a bad thing. I'm I'm hip deep in it myself quite often, but I'll just reiterate. [1:02:15] We are, and we're served extremely well. [1:02:18] The the arrangement that Holiday has with this organization has extremely beneficial for Holiday in my view. [1:02:25] I appreciate very much, I've come to appreciate very much that capital rotation blanks. It really does smooth out. [1:02:32] Those big costs in a way that makes it manageable for municipalities that have a regular. [1:02:38] You know, cycle of revenue that can't spike the way capital purchases could. [1:02:43] If we were employing it. [1:02:45] A different methodology. Think of us. [1:02:47] Our previous Chief Peterson, was it that created that this capital rotation? [1:02:52] That was one of the primary contributions he made among. [1:02:55] Many great contributions. [1:02:57] And. [1:02:59] I couldn't be happier. And so this was. [1:03:01] This showed. [1:03:02] Our increase from. [1:03:04] Last year, the current year at. [1:03:06] Four point. [1:03:07] 11 or 4.12. [1:03:10] We're significantly less than that this coming year. Coming up, our call volume went down relative to the total. So I think we're [1:03:13] going to. [1:03:17] The 2.11 range. [1:03:19] So we're we gotta scream and deal this next budget. You're coming up too. So. [1:03:25] Anyway, appreciate. [1:03:25] All you do at UFO. [1:03:27] Or proud members and. [1:03:29] Delighted and. [1:03:30] But but yeah, there any questions or comments? [1:03:33] I just have a quick question. You were talking about, I know a lot of times in my neighborhood because we are a little bit closer [1:03:38] to Murray, we see Murray come in. How does that work? [1:03:42] With umm. [1:03:43] The costs. [1:03:44] Than expenses, sure. [1:03:46] Sure. So. [1:03:47] Well, first I'll say how things are dispatched. [1:03:49] So, and I don't know exactly where you live, but. [1:03:54] So for a heavy apparatus. [1:03:56] It's what is dispatched is. [1:03:59] So that for the funding is is that map. [1:04:02] Right, but. [1:04:03] For how they're dispatching heavy apparatus if it can get there within 4 minutes. [1:04:07] Then that heavy apparatus will go. So I don't know if you live within 4, approximately 4 minutes of 104. So is it always Murray? [1:04:13] Are you on the border? [1:04:14] We're yeah, we're on the border. [1:04:16] So it's probably always Murray. [1:04:17] For the most part. [1:04:19] Yeah, just noticing what I yes, Yep, Yep, Yep. So yeah, so, so. [1:04:25] How is dispatch Is is? [1:04:26] Is it? I'll get back to it, but just because I went, I already started. This is 4 minutes for heavy apparatus. So if if a heavy [1:04:30] apparatus can get there within 4 minutes. [1:04:34] In in in their zone, so. [1:04:37] It'll go into that 104 weird shaped box and then it'll. [1:04:40] It'll GPS it and say where is medic engine 104? [1:04:44] And. [1:04:44] If medic engine 104 can get there in 4 minutes. [1:04:47] It will dispatch them. [1:04:49] And if not, then it goes to what we call AVL Automatic vehicle location. I think is what is basically GPS. It'll send the closest [1:04:53] apparatus. [1:04:57] And we actually just changed that this year and I'll kind of. [1:04:59] Just go on to it real quick. [1:05:03] It wasn't a UFA thing but. [1:05:05] Back in the day. [1:05:06] When they people used to build fire stations. [1:05:08] They actually used to build the fire stations on the borders of the cities to keep other cities out. [1:05:12] And so. [1:05:13] What was happening is we switched to. [1:05:16] With the technology and we used to. [1:05:17] Start dispatching everybody just straight off GPS. [1:05:21] Was that places like? [1:05:22] West Valley were. [1:05:23] Taking a high purport because they're right. They built themselves around the border of Taylorsville because that's how. [1:05:28] What they used to do, they were taking a ton of calls into Taylorsville. [1:05:31] Right, which is not theirs. [1:05:32] So then so the Chiefs all got together and they decided to just proximity dispatching. So now. [1:05:37] Within 104 they'll if 104 can get there within 4 minutes. [1:05:41] Then they'll do it and then the ambulance is an 8 minute window. [1:05:44] Now. [1:05:44] Seeing that you're not within 4 minutes, it's going to go. [1:05:47] GPS and so you'll get and that's Murray. [1:05:50] Is not in house. Sit at Murray Station is not there. [1:05:52] It'll go GPS, it'll send the next closest unit which. [1:05:55] Who knows? [1:05:55] Who might that be? [1:05:56] So and that becomes a chief to chief. [1:05:59] Thing as far as. [1:06:00] Mutual aid, where they'll talk. [1:06:01] Call volume and. [1:06:03] Hey, you know you guys come in more than us or we. [1:06:05] And we come in more than you, and it becomes kind of a negotiation. Now, I can't tell you this with Murray. [1:06:10] Is we have a great relationship with Murray. [1:06:12] And I don't think there's. [1:06:13] Even though they may own a little section of holiday right there. [1:06:18] A typical house buyer takes. [1:06:20] 3 fire engines and one ladder truck that is. [1:06:23] That is dispatched to one house fire. Murray doesn't have that whole city, so every house fire UFA is supplementing. [1:06:29] So there's a give and take there. [1:06:30] That is managed by the Chiefs. [1:06:32] And uh. [1:06:33] And that and that's why that is so if you don't live within 4 minutes. [1:06:36] And Murray's a little closer. [1:06:37] You'll get them every time right there. And so I know exactly where you live. [1:06:42] Probably. [1:06:43] I can probably guess. [1:06:45] But that's a, that's a shoe area close to that. Yeah. So you see, So it must be 82. If you can see 82, they must be able to get [1:06:49] there faster than 104. [1:06:53] Or maybe just 104 has been out. [1:06:55] Very much. [1:06:56] I'm actually interested. I might. [1:06:57] But that's how it works. [1:07:00] OK. Thank you. [1:07:03] Any other questions? [1:07:04] Can I just add to that, I don't know if Chief Burchett is doing this, but I know Chief Peterson. [1:07:10] Had a pretty. [1:07:11] Complicated matrix to make sure that mutual aid. [1:07:15] Penciled out. [1:07:16] And I was impressed with how. [1:07:21] Closely umm. [1:07:23] The mutual aid. [1:07:25] Really worked. [1:07:26] One community wasn't subsidizing another. [1:07:30] People were helping each other. [1:07:34] Pretty equally. [1:07:36] It's actually. [1:07:37] Pretty amazing how it works out, but yeah, that's he. [1:07:40] Cheaper than. [1:07:41] Pretty much taking everything cheap. Peterson's done and. [1:07:43] Kind of continued it. So I'm sure it's the same thing. Yeah, I've, I've had that conversation that chief. [1:07:48] And so UFA. [1:07:51] Is uh. [1:07:52] Is feels pretty even Steven there are a couple of communities that. [1:07:57] Are a little out of balance, but. [1:08:00] But so we're kind of. [1:08:02] Deficit with one. [1:08:04] Outside organization, but. [1:08:05] Have an access with another and. [1:08:08] It we're kind of worked out in the wash. [1:08:11] Yes and but. [1:08:13] There are certain communities to the South who are. [1:08:16] Not but. [1:08:18] We're OK. [1:08:20] Not only that, Mares that we have a lot of. [1:08:22] Stuff. So like I said. [1:08:24] We have our only, we have the only dedicated wall division that. [1:08:26] Frankly, everybody benefits from. [1:08:28] And then we have our own specialty, hazardous materials companies and owned specialty. [1:08:32] Heavy rescue companies were. [1:08:34] A lot of smaller departments, they have to dual specialize, right, So. [1:08:38] There's a lot of things that. [1:08:40] That we have plus our. [1:08:41] Most smaller departments don't have. [1:08:43] Investigators. [1:08:44] Bomber arson so and that gets utilized by. [1:08:47] By other smaller departments utilize ours. So there's there's give and take. It's not it's all not just all about call volume. [1:08:53] As far as the mutual aid type stuff. [1:08:56] OK, sorry, we're not taking public comment on the. [1:09:03] The date that the Fire Chief. [1:09:07] Cheapens. [1:09:08] Yes, I will make sure that when it is it and. [1:09:11] Again, it's going to be. [1:09:12] Closer to. [1:09:14] Actual fireworks time. [1:09:15] But I'll make sure it's on the agenda. [1:09:17] But we are happy to meet with you. You have my number. We talked before. I'm I'm happy. We're happy to be with you. [1:09:25] And not in this form if it's easier for you. [1:09:28] All right. Thanks, Mayor. Thanks. Thanks. Thank you. Thank you. [1:09:33] OK, but Speaking of that, the next item. [1:09:36] Up is discussion of the fireworks map. [1:09:38] Yes, who? Don't go too far. [1:09:42] Capping down. [1:09:44] There's a fireworks map discussion as the. [1:09:46] Next item on the agenda. [1:09:51] Yeah. So we received from. [1:09:55] Chief Watkins a letter. [1:09:58] Telling us that in accordance with state law, we need to adopt a map. [1:10:03] By me first. [1:10:06] So wanted to have a preliminary conversation with the council tonight, knowing that they need to adopt something next week. [1:10:15] The letter really outlines. [1:10:17] Process. [1:10:18] And not a lot of guidance. It sounds like that may be coming at a later time. Well, very soon, yes. I thought actually would have [1:10:24] come out already. But yeah, I think he might be doing it right now. [1:10:30] OK, so. [1:10:32] Will he, will we get that guidance before we need to make this? [1:10:35] Decision. Well, I can kind of. [1:10:37] Guided a little bit. [1:10:41] I will say. [1:10:42] And then, Todd, you stop me if I. [1:10:48] What the state has basically kind of said is that. [1:10:50] It's people, citizens rights. [1:10:53] To use fireworks. [1:10:54] So. [1:10:55] The Council cannot. [1:10:57] You cannot arbitrarily. [1:11:02] Restrict fireworks without certain criteria. [1:11:06] Is that a good way to say it? [1:11:07] Yeah, the state law. [1:11:09] State law for several years. [1:11:12] Has. [1:11:13] Identified certain areas where you can restrict the discharge of fireworks and it talks about areas of. [1:11:19] Dry grass as it talks about around. [1:11:22] Creek beds. [1:11:23] Washes like that. It talks about the urban wildland interface. [1:11:26] But then it indicates that. [1:11:29] You need to make sort of a. [1:11:31] A finding that there exists hazardous conditions. [1:11:34] That. [1:11:35] Have. [1:11:36] Historically. [1:11:37] Existed for at least two of the last five years. [1:11:40] To aid you in drawing your line. [1:11:42] Where you would be able to prohibit fireworks. [1:11:44] And so. [1:11:46] I know a few years ago the Council had a line along 1300 E. [1:11:50] In this city. [1:11:51] That was, for lack of a better term, I guess, kind of relaxed. [1:11:55] Last year. [1:11:56] But that had been your line. [1:11:59] Based on. [1:12:00] Sort of the environmental conditions we've had. [1:12:03] Over the last several years. [1:12:05] For a few years preceding that. [1:12:07] So. [1:12:08] As we look at that line. [1:12:10] You know, we think about. [1:12:11] The lack of moisture we've had this winter, all those things can weigh into your discussion now. [1:12:16] That you will be required to make a specific finding that. [1:12:20] There's a hazardous area. [1:12:21] That's existed for at least two of the last five years. [1:12:24] And there is specific statutory language that identifies areas of dry grass brush. [1:12:30] Cover. [1:12:31] The urban wildland interface or those? [1:12:34] Natural, uh. [1:12:35] Creek Ways. [1:12:36] Essentially Todd. [1:12:38] Can the fact that we used that line? [1:12:42] Within the last five years for a couple of be part of the finding. [1:12:46] That would because if we're looking at just this year, that's what you're saying is insufficient. But if we're saying like within [1:12:50] the last five years that 13th East. [1:12:54] It's it's good evidence of the fact that you made a finding to that effect in the last five years and it certainly. [1:13:00] If we go back. [1:13:01] Three years. [1:13:02] You know, for you certainly wouldn't be hard to justify. [1:13:05] Those lines. [1:13:08] I will say. [1:13:09] So I think it was, it's two years ago. [1:13:11] Gina that we expanded it. [1:13:13] Was it 2? So we've had two years of the non 313 hundred ease. [1:13:17] So I will say. [1:13:18] And I'm not. [1:13:20] Thing going for one or another but. [1:13:22] There hasn't been an increase in fireworks related incidents in those two years. [1:13:27] Just I mean grant on the. [1:13:28] The days of. [1:13:29] Legal discharge there's always. [1:13:31] There's always the illegal discharge ones and that's. [1:13:34] Has nothing to do with this. [1:13:36] But on the days of legal discharge. [1:13:38] From the. [1:13:39] Expanding of the times there hasn't been. [1:13:41] An increase another. [1:13:45] Tool that you may have is. [1:13:47] A red do we have? [1:13:49] The opportunity to pull a map up. [1:13:50] Stephanie commutes so they can see it. [1:13:54] Is a. [1:13:55] As like Todd said, you you can look at conditions, hazardous conditions or. [1:13:59] Or or historical fires which you don't have. [1:14:02] In the two of the five years. [1:14:04] But you also have. [1:14:05] A readably accessible line. [1:14:08] So, uh. [1:14:09] Something that's easy to enforce where? [1:14:12] It's not all over the place where well, over here I can't tell or I can't. I'm on the boundaries over here. I don't know. [1:14:18] So that that's another way to delineate. [1:14:21] Where you can. [1:14:23] Discharge fireworks is something that's easily recognizable and enforceable. [1:14:28] Is this the UFA? Is this the the? [1:14:31] Last year, is this the whole thing or just holiday? I was going to say if you saw Cottonwood Heights. [1:14:35] They have. Well, it's it's. [1:14:37] So confusing and they've had problems that they're actually gonna have to redo theirs a little bit this year just because it's so [1:14:42] hard to enforce. They just have pockets where you can and you can't and things like that, so. [1:14:46] That would be another thing, but. [1:14:50] It's not a. [1:14:51] It's not I don't like fireworks so. [1:14:54] We don't want them. It's it's that's, that's not. [1:14:56] Something that you can. [1:14:58] You can do. [1:14:59] Well, I think we. [1:15:00] You did create some. [1:15:02] Precedent. They were primarily based on environmental conditions. [1:15:08] And that those environmental conditions eased the last couple of years and so then we. [1:15:15] Applied that same precedent. [1:15:17] Given the. [1:15:18] Used environmental conditions. [1:15:20] It would appear to me we haven't had the data yet. [1:15:24] Although I do read the newspaper. [1:15:26] So it seems to me that those environmental conditions perhaps have changed again. [1:15:31] But but. [1:15:32] I'd still just want to essentially. [1:15:34] Apply the precedent. [1:15:36] That. [1:15:37] The Council. [1:15:38] Or at least have an opportunity to review that precedent and have an opportunity to reapply that precedent given current [1:15:42] environmentals to help us make that decision. [1:15:47] I would agree with you. [1:15:49] Mayor, that that that's kind of how I've been looking at this going into. I was hoping that we would get more. [1:15:55] Specific data as far as like fuel load and those kind of things. [1:16:00] And with. [1:16:02] The terrible snow year that we've had this year. So I don't know if that's. [1:16:06] Well, so I will say so that. [1:16:08] The fuel moisture. [1:16:09] Mm-hmm. That you can't predict that. [1:16:11] Because that's. [1:16:12] Because we could that could. [1:16:14] That could happen. We could have a lot of rain from now until then. You so you can't. [1:16:18] Predict that. [1:16:19] As far as? [1:16:20] Is. [1:16:22] The fuel moisture levels, which is which is a big thing. [1:16:24] Right. So that's one thing that. [1:16:26] When I said that Chief Watkins would come in, that was kind of where I was going to say where. [1:16:30] Say we had really dry. Say you adopted a map. [1:16:33] Of whatever. [1:16:36] The Council, and correct me if I'm wrong, Todd, that. [1:16:38] Under extreme conditions you can and you can change it. [1:16:42] Under so whatever you. [1:16:44] You is your map. [1:16:45] If there's extreme weather conditions that have persisted. [1:16:48] You can. [1:16:49] Restrict at that time. [1:16:51] So you're not locked in. [1:16:54] Yeah. But like we've, we've established kind of a. [1:16:57] A set of parameters from a couple of years ago. I'd like to review those. [1:17:01] And assuming we can get the. [1:17:03] Similar related data that we used. [1:17:06] In in those previous years when we've made these decisions. [1:17:10] To both restrict. [1:17:12] Completely like we did three to four years ago. [1:17:16] And then those eased because conditions changed. [1:17:19] Well, conditions have changed back or not, we'll just evaluate those parameters. [1:17:25] And stick with our. [1:17:27] Precedent, unless there's reason to. [1:17:29] Change the precedent. [1:17:30] So, Councilmember Gray, I think the answer question that data is not this. [1:17:33] Not not there yet. [1:17:36] We suspect we'll have it by the time we're required to make that decision. Well, not the, not the. [1:17:42] The the. [1:17:43] The data I was talking about with cheap walk. [1:17:45] Was going to be more of the fuel and moisture load and it might have been. [1:17:48] You know. [1:17:49] A couple weeks before the 4th of July or something like that, that was I was kind of alluding toward the more of the emergency. [1:17:57] We have drought conditions. [1:17:58] We can't have fireworks, period. [1:18:00] Type of thing because of the. [1:18:01] Fuel moisture levels. [1:18:03] That was more of the the data that I was talking about. Yeah. Oh, the. [1:18:06] But whatever data we use. [1:18:08] Because the timeline for us hasn't changed. [1:18:10] Right. No. And so we had. [1:18:13] Data that we had at the time we made the decision in those previous years. [1:18:18] We just need to have that. [1:18:19] The similar data that was. [1:18:22] That we have at the time of year we need to make the decision. [1:18:25] I feel like we had more data. [1:18:27] Did that like seemed like? [1:18:29] Yeah. So if we can. [1:18:31] Yeah, I remember last year we had a wet spring. [1:18:35] And then as soon as we voted. [1:18:37] To allow fireworks in parts of the city. [1:18:40] The rain stopped. [1:18:41] Yes, and by the time the 4th of July. [1:18:44] Came around. It was. [1:18:46] Dry as dry. [1:18:48] And actually I was really nervous and I talked to former Mayor Dally and said hey. [1:18:55] I think we ought to. [1:18:57] Look at re. [1:18:58] Restricting fireworks for the 24th and. [1:19:02] Couldn't. [1:19:03] Get enough people to back me on it. [1:19:09] I guess I say this because I'm nervous. [1:19:12] Not only. [1:19:13] The dryness that we've had so far, but also. [1:19:16] The fact that. [1:19:17] Our water situation is so dire. [1:19:21] I would be really mad at. [1:19:22] Somebody who started a fire with fireworks and see all those. [1:19:26] Millions of gallons. [1:19:27] Being used. [1:19:29] To fight it. [1:19:32] Yeah, anyway. [1:19:33] Let's try to get that. [1:19:34] Relevant data and. [1:19:35] For sure I can for because. [1:19:37] Council meeting next for council meeting next week. [1:19:40] Yeah. [1:19:41] Is there any other? Is there additional information? [1:19:45] That the Council is interested. [1:19:48] In in. [1:19:51] Looking at. [1:19:53] Well, I don't recall the specific data sources and data elements, but those should be. [1:19:58] I guess in the minutes from those years. [1:20:00] Of what those parameters were we used to? [1:20:03] To make those decisions. I mean, I'm sure one of them is going to be snowpack. [1:20:06] Yeah, and. [1:20:08] I remember that was 1. [1:20:09] Yeah, but I think we all know that and just. [1:20:13] Zero. I mean not basic drought. I think it's a basic drought measurements. [1:20:17] You know, oh, I think, I think 1 was like what? [1:20:20] Are we? [1:20:21] It's like our city in like what drought condition? [1:20:24] Is the city of Holiday Inn. [1:20:26] At that time. [1:20:27] I think that was another one. [1:20:29] And that was kind of all state fire Marshall stuff, as I recall. [1:20:33] And this is something we have to vote on next week. We do. [1:20:36] And that is that is state. [1:20:40] Law, I guess. [1:20:41] Captain Brown, I had assumed I that. [1:20:45] Perhaps Chief Watkins was. [1:20:48] More reticent to offer. [1:20:51] Guidance than say a previous fire Marshall. [1:20:56] Yeah, yeah, I will make sure that. [1:20:58] Therapy. I'm going to speak to him. [1:21:01] Tonight, OK. [1:21:03] Do we, I'm assuming other municipalities? [1:21:06] Are obviously on the same timeline as we are. [1:21:08] Are they or any further? [1:21:10] Along in the process of making their decisions about what they've done. So I will say this, I know that. [1:21:15] Codman Heights. [1:21:16] Is minus. [1:21:18] A couple of the pockets. [1:21:19] Mainly because of enforcement, because they have little. [1:21:22] Pockets all over the place. [1:21:23] Is going to be pretty much the same, and Mill Creek is going to be. [1:21:26] The same as well. [1:21:28] The same as they were last. That's that was, that's the feeling of the liaisons. They haven't voted on it. [1:21:31] But that was the feeling that they were going to get. They were first. Mill Creek is banned, right? [1:21:35] Yeah, it's way more strict than Holiday. It's more strict than. [1:21:38] Yeah, So yeah. And I thought Cottonwood Heights was more strict than holiday, too. No, Hardwood Heights has a lot of. [1:21:45] Checkerboard. [1:21:46] Goofiness. So the fact that Mill Creek can ban. [1:21:50] Fireworks on the East End of the city, which is basically as Far East as the entire city of Holiday is. [1:21:57] If I'm remembering what you. [1:21:59] Explained to me before it's because they never. [1:22:01] Retreated. They never allowed. [1:22:04] Fireworks, they just. [1:22:06] They just keep continuing. And so because of that, they can continue it. They don't have to justify. [1:22:13] Walking back, is that right? I don't think that's right. Oh, you know, that's right. [1:22:18] No, the same conditions in the statute. [1:22:21] Have to be. [1:22:22] A specific finding by a council and. [1:22:25] You may look to your past practice to say we have these kind of conditions and this is where we drew the line, but your past line [1:22:29] has nothing to do with. [1:22:33] Satisfying the statutory OK, good to know. [1:22:36] Thank you. [1:22:39] So we have a free hand to make whatever decision we feel best. [1:22:42] I just happen to think looking to precedent is. [1:22:44] Helps. I think it's happening. [1:22:46] Well, and I, I like the idea and I said this when we were making the decisions in the past, I think. [1:22:51] Government can be nimble in so few things. [1:22:54] But I think this is 1 where we can be more nimble and on. [1:22:58] Years where? [1:22:59] There's a lot of water. [1:23:01] I think. [1:23:02] I think we could. [1:23:03] Use restrictions and then years where. [1:23:06] We're looking at. [1:23:07] More drought conditions, I think. [1:23:09] I like the idea of being nimble and approaching it that way. [1:23:17] Any other comments? [1:23:19] So the only thing I would highlight for the Council if you and Stephanie, if you could pull up. [1:23:24] Are 25 map. [1:23:27] There was an area that was. [1:23:30] Included as a permissible area for fireworks last year. [1:23:36] That. [1:23:37] You may want to revisit if you stay with a map that looks something like this. [1:23:42] And that is the. [1:23:43] Park and ride. [1:23:44] Mill Rock and Old Mill. Oh yes. [1:23:48] I'm just going to say right now, yes, that needs to be revisited. [1:23:53] Is that because of activity we saw there? [1:23:55] Yes. [1:24:02] Yeah, I'd like to just advocate right now that we. [1:24:04] Don't allow that, regardless of other decisions that we make. [1:24:08] OK. Thank you. [1:24:09] All right. Anything else on that? [1:24:11] Agenda item. [1:24:13] OK, let's go to the business license fee discussion. [1:24:28] OK, so included in your packet is the answers to some questions that you posed. [1:24:36] The last time we had Fred Philpott. [1:24:40] With us to talk about the business license fee. [1:24:43] Study umm. [1:24:44] I wanted to just. [1:24:46] Spend a little bit of time going through that information and some past conversations. [1:24:51] Because this has taken some time. [1:24:55] Umm, just to remind you of where we are. And that's what Stephanie is bringing up right now. [1:25:01] So just starting at the very beginning, two years ago, the prior council authorized us to. [1:25:09] Take a look at our business license fees to determine costs associated with providing services. [1:25:16] To our business community. [1:25:19] The fees that we charge for those businesses can either supplement other general fund dollars or they can completely cover those [1:25:23] costs and that. [1:25:27] That that's up to you. [1:25:29] The study found that the cost of us providing services. [1:25:34] Two businesses is about a million dollars, 900. [1:25:37] $41,000. [1:25:40] And we've been collecting over the last five years. I think our average is right around $290,000 from business license fees. So [1:25:46] the general fund is making up. [1:25:53] Other tax sources are making up the rest of. [1:25:57] How we cover those costs? [1:26:01] The other thing that the business license. [1:26:04] Fee study found is that some business types have a disproportionate impact on that total cost. [1:26:10] So not everybody's the same in. [1:26:13] In what they cost the city to be a business here. [1:26:19] So if you could go to the next slide. [1:26:22] Guide. [1:26:25] Here's the guidance that we think we've heard from the council to date. [1:26:30] We think you've said that business license fees. [1:26:33] Should supplement other general fund dollars. [1:26:37] And that fees don't need to cover 100% of the cost of providing services to our business community. [1:26:44] I think we've heard that loud and clear. [1:26:46] We've also heard that business types that have a disproportionate impact should pay. [1:26:51] A disproportionate fee. [1:26:54] But we've also heard that businesses don't need to cover 100% of that disproportionate impact. [1:27:00] The guidance that we've had to date has varied between 25 and 40% depending on those business groupings and we'll look at those in [1:27:04] just a second. [1:27:13] I wanted to highlight what I think. [1:27:15] The answers to that? [1:27:17] Are in your packet. [1:27:21] Mean for some business group. [1:27:25] Many business groups will payless. [1:27:28] Under the new. [1:27:29] Proposed structure. [1:27:31] So 85% of our business licenses that we issue are renewals in our community. [1:27:37] And that means that most businesses are going to payless. [1:27:41] With the new structure. [1:27:44] Some businesses and. [1:27:47] Hang on just a second, I have a list of those groups. [1:27:56] So our most common business grouping which is the business professional and contracted services. [1:28:02] The new cost of a business license will increase. [1:28:06] But most will payless. [1:28:09] Restaurants both with and without liquor. [1:28:12] Will payless for both the renewal. [1:28:14] And a new license. [1:28:18] We do have a few businesses that are going to see an increase. [1:28:22] And that includes. [1:28:24] Banks. Convenience stores. [1:28:27] Grocery stores. Pharmacies. [1:28:30] Regulated home occupations, things that have to go, businesses that have to go through our conditional use process. [1:28:36] On and off. [1:28:37] Promised beer retailers and hotels. [1:28:40] All of those groups. [1:28:42] Are going to see an increase. [1:28:46] This new fund. [1:28:47] Fee structure that we've been talking about is projected to generate. [1:28:52] Approximately $70,000 in additional revenue. [1:28:58] However, that includes a lot of your conversations have focused on. [1:29:03] What do we do about assisted living and. [1:29:06] Nursing facilities. [1:29:08] So if. [1:29:10] The disproportionate impact for. [1:29:13] Nursing. [1:29:15] Residential and personal care remains up 40%. [1:29:18] That would equal that $70,000 in additional revenue. [1:29:23] If you. [1:29:24] However, wanted to take that to 25% the way you have for some other categories. [1:29:30] It would basically be revenue neutral. [1:29:36] So the next slide. [1:29:38] Looks at where we had ended up. [1:29:41] On disproportionate fees. [1:29:44] By groupings and that. [1:29:47] Occluded an adjustment. [1:29:52] To 40% of the disproportionate for some and. [1:29:56] Had reduced to 25%. [1:29:58] For those that you had categorized as generating economic benefits for the city. [1:30:05] Economic development related. [1:30:07] Groupings like. [1:30:08] Convenience stores and. [1:30:11] Gas stations. [1:30:13] Grocery stores. Hotels. [1:30:15] Pharmacies and drug stores. [1:30:17] And then 40%. [1:30:19] For a few other categories. [1:30:24] So. [1:30:25] Next slide. [1:30:31] This evening I think we're really looking for direction on assisted living in nursing homes. [1:30:37] Where you end up? [1:30:39] With them, also included in your packet is the answer to your question about adjacent communities and what they're charging. [1:30:47] So we're looking for direction as the council comfortable with us starting to do some outreach regarding these potential new fees. [1:30:56] Knowing that. [1:30:57] You won't adopt them until you adopt. [1:30:59] The budget. [1:31:02] In June. [1:31:04] And by outreach, tell me what? [1:31:06] Exactly. That looks like. So it could look a variety of different ways. I think we would use the business Advisory Board to start [1:31:12] some of those conversations. [1:31:17] With business. [1:31:19] Groups. [1:31:20] And then probably some direct outreach to. [1:31:24] Groups that. [1:31:26] Like assisted living in nursing homes, that might see some. [1:31:29] Larger impacts. [1:31:31] Just to get their feedback. [1:31:34] Would that be done through like surveys or direct contact or? [1:31:38] I'm anticipating that a lot of it would be. [1:31:44] I mean traditional kind of public engagement. [1:31:46] Flyers, that sort of thing. [1:31:48] With an opportunity than to have. [1:31:50] Conversations, yeah. [1:31:54] So. [1:31:55] In my view, though, the only one that's really outstanding in my mind again is the assisted living. And so I kind of wanted to hit [1:31:59] the details of those. [1:32:03] In terms of. [1:32:04] What? [1:32:04] We're charging now. [1:32:08] And and then. [1:32:11] What the proposed? [1:32:13] And we're looking at it, we're talking 40% then I mean the real element is the cost per unit. [1:32:20] So at 40%, we're saying that's 300 bucks. [1:32:22] A bed, essentially. [1:32:24] And how does that compare with what we're charging now? [1:32:28] And then? [1:32:29] I'd want to look at. [1:32:33] Equivalents. [1:32:35] Our surrounding neighboring communities. [1:32:37] Because it seemed to me when I looked at. [1:32:39] But I did a little bit of my own research which. [1:32:41] Not very deep. [1:32:43] That that was going to be. [1:32:45] Significantly higher than. [1:32:47] Neighboring communities. [1:32:49] So currently our base for a nursing, residential and personal care is a $200 base. [1:32:58] And $44 per resident. [1:33:00] The proposal would take that to a 330 base. [1:33:05] Plus 299. [1:33:06] 60 per bed. [1:33:10] So it because. [1:33:12] Because we're going from a resident. [1:33:14] To a bed, it's hard to make a. [1:33:18] Perfect apples to apples comparison the last. [1:33:22] Sheet. [1:33:24] Called assisted living comparisons. [1:33:27] Also looks at. [1:33:28] What we would be proposing? [1:33:30] Versus where other cities are. [1:33:35] I. [1:33:38] And we would be. [1:33:41] Our base would be higher. [1:33:46] And at 40%? [1:33:48] The disproportionate. [1:33:51] Amount would be higher as well. [1:33:53] I thought we were talking about doing it at 25%. [1:33:56] So if we take it. [1:33:57] Where we had left the conversation was it? [1:34:00] 40 if we take it to 25. [1:34:03] I had done this math somewhere, let me see if I can find it. [1:34:07] I think it would take it from 299. [1:34:12] To 180. [1:34:18] And even that. [1:34:20] Higher than everybody else, Yeah, we'd still be on top. [1:34:23] It is. [1:34:25] But our costs are higher than everyone else. [1:34:28] Our costs relative to our neighbors. [1:34:31] So looking at. [1:34:33] The disproportionate impacts. [1:34:36] That's what it. [1:34:39] So S Jordans could be as high as 901. [1:34:43] So they went from. [1:34:44] They went to. [1:34:48] 5%. [1:34:51] Our costs are higher than Linden's. [1:34:57] Murray charges a disproportionate fee only to group homes. [1:35:02] Midvale does not charge a disproportionate fee for assisted living. [1:35:07] And Mill Creek is. [1:35:09] Limited it's $145 per bed with. [1:35:13] A $10 disproportionate fee. [1:35:18] Why are our costs? [1:35:23] That that is, that would be another study, whether it is just the number of beds we have, whether it is. [1:35:31] Practices within our homes? That would be hard to say. [1:35:35] Well, it Could it be that Mill Creek and Cottonwood Heights haven't reevaluated? [1:35:39] It absolutely could. [1:35:41] It absolutely could that that would make more sense. [1:35:44] Yeah, Cottonwood Heights is about to go through this same process. [1:35:47] Understand, but they haven't done it quite yet. [1:35:51] So yeah. [1:35:55] Certainly for document 40 versus 25, I think it's pretty easy to knock down to 25 and not feel too bad about it because we're [1:35:58] still on the high end of the market. [1:36:02] Yeah. [1:36:04] And then that would make. [1:36:06] In terms of our overall budget, we would make it revenue neutral, revenue neutral because the other even though we're. [1:36:12] It's getting significantly more revenues in this group. [1:36:14] Were losing revenue and. [1:36:16] In the other ones. [1:36:17] Like for the renewal process exactly. [1:36:20] Right. [1:36:22] These fees are these, is this the renewal fee or is this the new fee? [1:36:26] So. [1:36:28] The disproportionate fee. [1:36:30] Is regardless right? [1:36:32] It is but because the base will go down. [1:36:36] Many businesses will see a reduction, so the fee comparison. [1:36:44] We'll give you an example of that. Let's just take automotive. [1:36:48] Now I remember looking at that I wanted to compare the specific with the. [1:36:53] Nursing homes. [1:36:55] So that is about. [1:36:57] 1/3 of the way down the. [1:36:59] Page and that is the $200 base. [1:37:02] Plus $44 per resident. [1:37:05] Versus the. [1:37:07] 330 base. [1:37:11] Plus 299. [1:37:13] For a renewal though, that base goes to 87. [1:37:17] Plus 299. [1:37:26] But that's the 299 at the 40%. [1:37:30] Right, so it would be. [1:37:32] 87 plus let's say 187. [1:37:36] For the disproportion. [1:37:39] OK. [1:37:42] But also, but I'm thinking I'll I'm getting more comfortable with that. [1:37:45] 25% number, even though it's a higher end of the market just in terms of the. [1:37:50] Total. [1:37:51] Cost per month for rental for those? [1:37:55] I really wonder if Mill Creek and Cottonwood Heights do this if we would be more in the middle. [1:38:00] Or like. [1:38:02] More comparable to the market than what it looks like currently. Yeah, that's hard to predict, but. [1:38:08] Just in terms of. [1:38:09] We're starting to approach. [1:38:11] The the higher end of the market as opposed to being double the market. [1:38:14] At 299. [1:38:15] Yeah, that's yeah. [1:38:18] And I'm OK being at the higher end of the market. [1:38:20] Because they were providing a lot of up. [1:38:23] UFA services to those folks. [1:38:25] But then you talk about. [1:38:27] If you breakdown that annual cost. [1:38:30] Prepared by month compared to the monthly rental. [1:38:34] It becomes a small. [1:38:35] Smaller percentage of the total. [1:38:37] And it just feels more digestible. [1:38:42] Yeah, yeah, I. [1:38:47] I think I'm where you are. [1:38:51] I'm seeing nods. [1:38:53] Is everyone comfortable with that, at least as a starting place? [1:38:57] For conversations, I think. [1:39:00] For most of our business community, this will be. [1:39:03] Received really well because it will mean a reduction. [1:39:07] Or most businesses, right? [1:39:10] And an equalization and a. [1:39:14] Acceptance of more responsibility for their type of business when they are. [1:39:18] Occurring more constant to us. [1:39:20] Yeah. And I think you can make a case for especially for nursing homes where they're. [1:39:24] They are using our services very regularly. [1:39:28] Yeah. I'm also OK with the level of subsidy we're making, because they are. [1:39:32] They're a business, but they're also a. [1:39:34] Replacement for our residents. [1:39:36] Yeah. And they do get the residential exemption in terms of the property tax side. [1:39:41] So that I think we. [1:39:42] We do have some justification for. [1:39:45] Providing some subsidy there. [1:39:47] Yeah, but we've been. [1:39:49] Perhaps over subsidizing? [1:39:52] Yeah, I would agree with that. [1:39:54] Are we going to run into any problems? I know we talked about before that we have to. [1:40:00] If we pull nursing homes out of the. [1:40:03] Generating. [1:40:04] Income discount. [1:40:06] Are we going to run into problems? [1:40:08] On that end. [1:40:10] In terms of. [1:40:11] Over our overall revenue or just from a fairness standpoint? [1:40:17] I mean, I mean I. [1:40:18] Think we can? [1:40:21] I think some of the points that the mayor just made. [1:40:25] Will be sufficient. [1:40:28] We'll need to look at that, but. [1:40:31] At first blush, I feel comfortable with that. [1:40:36] I feel like it's really truly a legislative decision that's a judgment call, the legislative body. [1:40:42] As long as it's. [1:40:43] You know, it's got some rationale to it. [1:40:47] OK. All right. Well, I appreciate the direction. Thank you and we'll. [1:40:52] Will incorporate this into the tentative budget and I'm sure it won't be the last time we talk about it. [1:40:59] Gina, thank you and for everyone, I mean, I know we. [1:41:01] Contracted out with. [1:41:03] Fred for a lot of this work, but it's, it's been a lot of work and we appreciate. [1:41:07] OK. Thank you. [1:41:09] OK, Anything else? Otherwise we'll proceed to. [1:41:13] Retreat goals, yes. [1:41:15] So in your packet is a summary of what? [1:41:18] I think where I think we landed on our. [1:41:22] Our goals for the upcoming year. [1:41:25] I just wanted you to take a look at them and make sure that I got them all correct. [1:41:31] Because as you'll remember from the retreat, this was at the end of the night and. [1:41:37] Handwriting got a lot less clearer and we didn't have a chance to go over them before we adjourned. [1:41:44] So our priority, our first priority remains that we are a safe community. [1:41:50] We. [1:41:51] We prioritized regular predictable emergency response training as well as. [1:41:58] Replacing our soon to be leaving us Emergency Management Coordinator. [1:42:04] Talked about a couple of sidewalk fill in projects. [1:42:08] Working with UPD to make sure that children in particular are aware of the new state law and restrictions around. [1:42:17] E bikes and E motorcycles and the whole variety of. [1:42:24] Toys that are available and that we sometimes see on our roads. [1:42:28] We talked about opportunities for fire hydrant maintenance. [1:42:33] And then working to continue addressing perceived speeding. [1:42:38] Anything else? [1:42:39] In that area. [1:42:44] Priority two. [1:42:46] Excellent public assets and infrastructure. [1:42:49] Executing our plan for City Hall began working on. [1:42:52] Spring Lane or the park to be named later. [1:42:56] Maintaining parks at a high level. [1:42:59] Developing. [1:43:00] More beautification spots around the city. [1:43:04] Continue to explore opportunities for park restrooms offseason. [1:43:09] Exploring funding for active transportation and trails priorities. [1:43:13] And. [1:43:14] Floor plans for additional trails. [1:43:18] Anything else? [1:43:19] There. [1:43:23] OK. Third priority risk. [1:43:25] Responsible. [1:43:27] Responsive, efficient and sustainable city government. [1:43:30] Explore additional communications channels. [1:43:35] And we're going to talk about. [1:43:37] An opportunity there next week. [1:43:40] We wanted to share communications. [1:43:43] Metrics. Umm. [1:43:44] Highlight our website. [1:43:46] Engage at the state and local level. [1:43:49] Explore a state of the city or 10. [1:43:52] And or town halls. [1:43:55] And foster outreach and education on housing. [1:44:01] OK. [1:44:04] Priority. Umm. [1:44:05] For responsible development that enhances community. [1:44:10] Expand opportunities for commercial nodes, exploring CDA's where appropriate. [1:44:15] Clarify policy to support. [1:44:17] Support affordable housing. [1:44:19] Help businesses identify grant opportunities. [1:44:22] Support local mom and pop businesses and explore opportunities for targeted commercial development. [1:44:34] OK. And priority five, a great place to live. [1:44:37] Explore opportunities for us to participate or for our residents to. [1:44:44] Get Olympic fever. Some sort of. [1:44:47] Some sort of link to holiday? [1:44:50] Explore community theater options. [1:44:53] Activate the village center. [1:44:56] Explore taking events to neighborhoods. [1:44:58] Continue with the village lighting. [1:45:01] Explore. [1:45:03] A mural, fest or some? [1:45:05] Additional public art and both long term and short term. [1:45:10] Things like yarn. [1:45:12] And bring back the fun run. [1:45:21] Is that I'm not familiar with the fund run. [1:45:23] I mean, I'm fine. I'm fine bringing something back. [1:45:27] What was it? [1:45:28] So, and this also predates me I and I believe this is still on the list. [1:45:33] From Council. [1:45:35] Brewer, who is an advocate of the fun run. [1:45:39] I think it was. [1:45:41] Kind of a short run associated with the 4th of July. [1:45:45] OK. [1:45:49] I'm not seeing as much consensus on this one. I don't know. I. [1:45:54] I'm not a runner, but. [1:45:55] Lots of people are so. [1:45:57] I think it'd be a fun community event. [1:46:00] So I support it. [1:46:02] Should we leave it on and see what happens? [1:46:06] Yeah, take a look at it. [1:46:07] We might tie in charge of it. [1:46:12] He just volunteered to be. [1:46:13] Community, Yeah. [1:46:14] All right, Leader Charge. [1:46:17] Well, if this is the right list of priorities. [1:46:24] So if you take a look at this and have anything. [1:46:28] More specific to add to any of these categories anything that I didn't capture. [1:46:33] From our conversation a few months ago. [1:46:35] Please let me know. [1:46:39] Now I thought that retreat meeting was really when. [1:46:42] Fantastically. [1:46:43] And we had a lot of great engagement and. [1:46:47] I really felt really good about how that went. [1:46:49] Great, Greg. [1:46:51] All right, great. Thank you. [1:46:54] OK, let's proceed then to item. [1:46:57] E regarding communication options. [1:47:03] Oh, OK. So we're not doing that one. That's next week. [1:47:06] OK, so then. [1:47:08] Just to finish up then we are, we have. [1:47:10] Council meeting next week. [1:47:14] And then the first three weeks in May, which will be very budget focused I expect. [1:47:20] We closed session or no? [1:47:25] Well then. [1:47:26] That only leaves one thing. [1:47:28] Motion to adjourn. [1:47:29] 2nd. [1:47:30] All in favor. [1:47:32] Aye.