1 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:07,000 Thank you for your attention and I want to thank you for your attention and I want to thank you for your attention. 2 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,000 Thank you for your attention. 3 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,000 Thank you for your attention. 4 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,000 Thank you for your attention. 5 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,000 Thank you for your attention. 6 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,000 Thank you for your attention. 7 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:04,000 Thank you for your attention. 8 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,000 Thank you for your attention. 9 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,000 Thank you for your attention. 10 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,000 Thank you. 11 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,000 Thank you for your attention. 12 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,000 Thank you for your attention. 13 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,000 Thank you for your attention. 14 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,000 Thank you for your attention. 15 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:04,000 Thank you for your 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Angelica, I'm the Director of Development for San Benito Health Foundation. 29 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:58,760 And I'm also the part of the Board of California Press Meeting Coalition. 30 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:23,760 And so for National Press Meeting Awareness Month, we're having a breastfeeding walk in honor of breastfeeding and not only on breastfeeding, but just human milk for all the babies whose mothers can breastfeed, there is also donated human milk. 31 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:30,760 Thank you very much, thank you. 32 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:42,760 Now we're going to be on to 5.4 city council subpoena training. 33 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:48,760 Hello, my name is Leah Calderon and the Administrative Analyst here for the City Manager's Office. 34 00:16:48,760 --> 00:17:14,760 And I have prepared a presentation for subpoena training. 35 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:16,760 Okay, first, what is a subpoena? 36 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:21,760 So, a subpoena is a legal order requiring action through the court system. 37 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:25,760 A subpoena may require the city to provide certain documents. 38 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:35,760 For example, emails, reports, contracts, meeting notes, as well as permit, or you could be required to provide testimony. 39 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:40,760 So we thought you would need to attend a hearing, and answers are in questions under oath. 40 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:50,760 And the difference between the subpoena and a public records request is that it is issued through a legal process, and it may require a mandatory compliance. 41 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:59,760 Where a public records request is requiring certain documents, but it's not through the court system. 42 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:15,760 So, some of the do's and do's for subpoenas are to preserve records, say emails, make sure you keep everything. 43 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:23,760 Please do not delete any records, do not edit them, make sure you preserve them as they are. 44 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,760 There are, as I mentioned, different types of subpoenas. 45 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:34,760 First one is document type, and the other one is to appear personally in court, which requires you to testify. 46 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:40,760 And so what happens when a subpoena arrives? 47 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:42,760 So step one, you receive the document. 48 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:45,760 Make sure you record when you receive it. 49 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:46,760 Who served it? 50 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:48,760 Deadline, requesting party. 51 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:56,760 For example, individuals are generally not served directly, and said the city of Hollister as an agency is served to the city clerk's office. 52 00:18:56,760 --> 00:19:01,760 So once the subpoena is received, the city clerk would then contact legal counsel. 53 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:15,760 So it's very important, for example, city council member receives a subpoena through the city of Hollister to contact legal counsel, as well as if they were to be served personally as well. 54 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:24,760 So subpoenas involving the city council members, as just mentioned, the city clerk's office will probably go over the subpoena to the city attorney for review and guidance. 55 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:30,760 So the city attorney will then determine their appropriate response and advise the city council member on any required action. 56 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:55,760 The response process, again, pretty similar, as was mentioned earlier, make sure you review your records, including the date range, responsible departments, as well as collect any emails and any records that you would have or any reports and make sure everything is documented. 57 00:19:55,760 --> 00:20:14,760 Common mistakes would be ignore the subpoena, missing deadlines, delaying records, it could be pretty common that if you happen to miss a subpoena date, the court might not let you know right away, but that does not mean that the court is not keeping records that you have not attended. 58 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:32,760 So with that, I will move on to the next slide, and so the key takeaways here are if you receive a subpoena, please stop and preserve all records and notify the city clerk as well as coordinating all of your information and again, please never respond to that. 59 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:37,760 So that is the end of my presentation, if you have any questions, please let me know. 60 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:41,760 Any questions? 61 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:43,760 I do have a question. 62 00:20:43,760 --> 00:21:03,760 I've gotten a few in the last couple of year now, and obviously we want to be timely about subpoenas are very important, and the bodies that are requesting us to be interviewed are also important to have an important job to do. 63 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:13,760 Is it appropriate if we have a meeting let's say it's a special meeting and it completes with the interview. 64 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:22,760 Just a reschedule with the subpoena body and whatever the organization is that issue of the subpoena. 65 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:26,760 I can get back to you on that question with the correct information. 66 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:38,760 Miss inform you, but keep in mind that all subpoenas are really important to keep track of the day because the court is keeping track and it's very. 67 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:47,760 It's very important to do that as well as they're very unique to the type of court, so that is all up to the judge whether if you haven't been to certain subpoena days. 68 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:56,760 There's different penalties right there could be fine, and eventually so that's all up to the judge, but I can definitely get more information on your question. 69 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:57,760 Thank you. 70 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:09,760 Thank you not a question but Miss Thompson's on on the line in my experience as long as it's documented between the two parties it's agreed upon. 71 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:13,760 I think the court will find that reasonable enough to make accommodations. 72 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:20,760 I think of course it's the court they can do what they want if they wanted to but in that experience councilmember cliche I would say that's a pretty reasonable. 73 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:25,760 Experience an expectation on my behalf Miss Thompson do you want to chime in on that. 74 00:22:43,760 --> 00:23:04,760 Thank you. 75 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:08,760 Thank you. 76 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:09,760 Thank you. 77 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:19,760 In council members this presentation this training was one of the recommendations in the grand jury reports so check. 78 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:23,760 Thank you. 79 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:33,760 So when we get on to public comment this is the time for anyone in the audience to speak on any item not obvious gender and within the subject matter jurisdiction. 80 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:43,760 So speaking cards are available in the lobby and are to be completed and given to city clerk before speaking. 81 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:50,760 When the city clerk calls your name please come to the podium state your name and city for the records and speak to the city council. 82 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:59,760 If you are joining us via zoom please hit the bottom of your screen to raise your hand if you are joining us via zoom using cell phone please press. 83 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:05,760 Our nine each speaker will be limited to three minutes with the maximum of 30 minutes per subject. 84 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:12,760 Please note that state law prohibits the city council from discussing or taking action on any items not on the agenda. 85 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:19,760 So in court do we have any public comments not for non-adidas items. 86 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,760 So now we're moving on to consent. 87 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:32,760 Do any members of the council have any brief questions or comments on items from the consent agenda. 88 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:38,760 We are pulling items 7.11 and we'll be hearing that after the consent calendar. 89 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:44,760 Okay. 90 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:46,760 All right. 91 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:51,760 So that and then do you have to vote for that or no. 92 00:24:51,760 --> 00:25:06,760 So 7.11 is a resolution approving the creation of the deputy finance officer construction and capital management position and establishing its place on the city's compensation plan. 93 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:08,760 Do you have any comments or questions? 94 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,760 Do you go to that for or should we have public? 95 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:16,760 We could do you public comment on consent and do a vote on consent and then we could go to 7.11. 96 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:20,760 Okay so let's go ahead and go into it to public comment. 97 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:24,760 Okay and we have Christine. 98 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:26,760 That's for item 7.11. 99 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:28,760 Sorry not for consent. 100 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,760 So we don't have any speaker cards for it. 101 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,760 The rest of the consent calendar. 102 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:35,760 Thank you. 103 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:36,760 Okay. 104 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:38,760 So. 105 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:39,760 The size. 106 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:40,760 Okay. 107 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:42,760 So besides you moving 7.11. 108 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:46,760 Does anybody have any questions or comments on other consent items? 109 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:47,760 Okay. 110 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:49,760 Can I get a motion to approve? 111 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:50,760 I moved to approve. 112 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:51,760 Second. 113 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:52,760 All consent items. 114 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:53,760 But 7.11. 115 00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:58,760 All right. 116 00:25:58,760 --> 00:25:59,760 All in favor. 117 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:01,760 Can you pose? 118 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:03,760 So now let's move to each other. 119 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:04,760 Okay. 120 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:05,760 So. 121 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:06,760 Okay. 122 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:07,760 Okay. 123 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:09,760 So. 124 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:10,760 Okay. 125 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:11,760 So. 126 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,760 I just want from consent agenda. 127 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:15,760 Okay. 128 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:16,760 So let's see. 129 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:17,760 Okay. 130 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:18,760 Okay. 131 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:20,760 In their motion to approve this point. 132 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:21,760 No. 133 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:22,760 We have a discussion. 134 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:23,760 We have a public comment. 135 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:24,760 Okay. 136 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:25,760 Okay. 137 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:26,760 Okay. 138 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:36,760 Hello, city council. 139 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:38,760 Thank you for having me today. 140 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:43,760 So my subject that I wanted to discuss was item 7.11. 141 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:49,760 My concern with this item on the agenda is that we're creating positions. 142 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:59,760 For a resolution to create an indefinance officer construction and construction and capital management. 143 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:06,760 It's really hard to justify to create a position of this or any other hiring decisions at this time. 144 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:10,760 When we are still faced with a horrible budget that we all know. 145 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,760 I have a detailed conversation with city manager just a few weeks ago. 146 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:18,760 And she referenced at least 15 times that we have no money. 147 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:20,760 No money to spend. 148 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,760 There's no money to do incentives. 149 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:23,760 There's no money. 150 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:24,760 There's going to be an officer. 151 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:25,760 Nothing. 152 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:26,760 She could do. 153 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:27,760 There's no money. 154 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:29,760 But when we. 155 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:30,760 Physicians. 156 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,760 On the agenda to approve. 157 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:37,760 It feels like there's money for the things that we want in administration. 158 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,760 But there's no money for utilities or the police department or for fire. 159 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:47,760 Right now we should be in the position where there's a hiring freeze on everything with the exception of police and fire. 160 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:51,760 Because those are should be the only things that we're worried about at this point. 161 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,760 And then we need to pull the person's back. 162 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:55,760 I don't understand why. 163 00:27:55,760 --> 00:28:02,760 We still have the city manager allowing her to spend up to or the city manager to spend up to $220,000. 164 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,760 Without no oversight. 165 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,760 She's we should be buying pencils if we have no money. 166 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:09,760 Orpons. 167 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:10,760 Right. 168 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:16,760 So we can't live outside of our means but we're still hiring positions that are very. 169 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,760 They're going to hit the budget significantly. 170 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:24,760 And then we want to eliminate the positions that are going to affect the public. 171 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,760 We want to contract to send us a water. 172 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,760 We want to pay them to tell us how to run our utilities. 173 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,760 It doesn't make sense. 174 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:39,760 I believe we are welcoming a new director for utilities for the city. 175 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:41,760 City utilities. 176 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,760 And they're going to have their hands full. 177 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,760 Because we're trying to eliminate their staff. 178 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:51,760 Or asking these people to do a job with five people, eight people. 179 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,760 Let's eliminate 17 positions. 180 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,760 But then we're going to hire construction manager. 181 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:01,760 I just want you guys to really consider where we're putting our money. 182 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:04,760 And how we're going to affect the community. 183 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,760 I'm speaking to you today as a community member. 184 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,760 I'm concerned that we are. 185 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:16,760 We are directing our funds in direction that doesn't necessarily benefit the community. 186 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:21,760 And if we are going to do this, you know, we are going to create positions like this. 187 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:26,760 There needs to be really, really strong oversight of how it's going to benefit us. 188 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,760 Who's going to pay for it? 189 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:32,760 How we're going to control it and manage it. 190 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:36,760 Without that, that position is not going to be an enterprise fund. 191 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:38,760 And that's what we keep saying. 192 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,760 There's no money because the enterprise funds are stuck in it all up. 193 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,760 You know, we're taking our money. 194 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:47,760 So please consider how we hire. 195 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,760 Thank you, Christina. 196 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,760 Right, Garcia. 197 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,760 You're taking me counsel. 198 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:20,000 Welcome back. My name is Frank Garcia, the city employee for public works. For months, employees have been told the city is facing financial crisis. We've been told about restructuring, eliminating positions and reducing staff. And making difficult sacrifices because there is enough money. 199 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:28,000 We've also seen a written statement that staffing evaluations were requested without repair work included. 200 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:37,000 If that's how staffing was evaluated, how do you determine how many employees you need without including all the work they performed? 201 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:45,000 Tonight, you're asking this council to create a brand new senior management position, so I have a few questions. 202 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:56,000 If the city truly cannot afford to keep the employees it already has, how can it afford to create a brand new senior management position? 203 00:30:56,000 --> 00:31:14,000 If the city says it must eliminate positions because of financial challenges, one analysis demonstrates that creating this position is a higher priority than preserving the position the city says it can no longer afford. 204 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:26,000 Where's the analysis showing this position provides greater value than retaining the employees serving this community every day? 205 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:43,000 What medical savings will this position actually produce? And finally, why should employees accept that there isn't enough money to keep them, but there isn't enough money to expand management? 206 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:59,000 These aren't rhetorical questions, they deserve answers. Because tonight's agenda, since two very different messages, one message says there isn't enough money to keep employees, the other says there is enough money to create another senior management position. 207 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:09,000 Those two messages cannot both be true. Tonight, this council is about to decide what its priorities are. 208 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,000 Thank you. 209 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,000 Thank you, Frank. 210 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,000 I have no more speakers for this item. 211 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,000 Thank you. Okay. So now we'll move to... 212 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:19,000 If I can. 213 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,000 Thank you. 214 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:28,000 So thank you all for coming and speaking up on it. I do have a couple of questions if I can't see the minute or so. 215 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:34,000 This position that's been created is kind of multifaceted, right? 216 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:40,000 So they're going to be looking over finances, capital improvement projects, public works, it sounds like. 217 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:46,000 Permitting, so permitting, construction permits, CIP, engineering. 218 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,000 And it's going to be parted through an enterprise fund? 219 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:54,000 Interesting enough. It is because our development isn't enterprise fund. 220 00:32:54,000 --> 00:33:00,000 It actually brings revenues not only for its own operation, but other parts of the general fund. 221 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,000 Okay. 222 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,000 This is a revenue-producing position. 223 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,000 We wish we had more of those. 224 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:11,000 This is a call center that actually has a revenue center. 225 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,000 Okay. And then my other question, nobody was laid off. 226 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:18,000 Like all the unions obviously didn't get a raise, which is very unfortunate. 227 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:23,000 But we were able to save everybody's jobs like we said we were going to. 228 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,000 As of today, right? Everybody... 229 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,000 No positions were... 230 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,000 One member of the staff has been laid off. 231 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:32,000 Okay. 232 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,000 Five members to give advantage of our incentive. 233 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:36,000 Okay. 234 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:37,000 Good. 235 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:38,000 Good. 236 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,000 Good. 237 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:42,000 Good. 238 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:43,000 Okay. 239 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:48,000 So in my eyes, the way that I'm justifying this is that the city of Haltzers behind on their audits. 240 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:56,000 We need more people looking over the finances in order for us to sort of pull back those pockets. 241 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,000 What did you call the purse strings? 242 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:02,000 So in my eyes, the way that I'm justifying it, nobody lost their jobs. 243 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:10,000 We're going to be taking money from an enterprise fund, which I see the concern of the union that could go towards the workers. 244 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:14,000 But a huge priority of this council. 245 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:18,000 And of you all, I think, so that we know where we're at. 246 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:22,000 Fine, actually, is to get some more people to look into the finances. 247 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,000 We need to get those audits numbers caught up. 248 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:31,000 And I'm assuming I'm just assuming that this position is going to be working towards that. 249 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,000 Councilmember, let me actually give you. 250 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:39,000 Bad news is not exactly good news is this position is about bringing money. 251 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:44,000 This is a position that is specifically created to increase revenues. 252 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:47,000 How do we increase revenues through our permitting process? 253 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:52,000 Once upon a time the city would take months if not years to process its permits. 254 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,000 That's money we're not collecting. 255 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,000 So in April, we restructure. 256 00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:05,000 We went ahead and sent that particular revenue center that had not been produced in revenues to the finance department. 257 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:06,000 Why? 258 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,000 Because finance is about money. 259 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:12,000 And we took a different approach on how we're conducting our permitting process. 260 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,000 Is it looking at it as red tape? 261 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,000 We're looking at it as money. 262 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,000 The quicker we move, the quicker we release our permits, 263 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,000 without violating any regulations. 264 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,000 It's money in the bank. 265 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,000 That's what this position is about. 266 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:27,000 Money in the bank. 267 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,000 So your logic is that they're going to generate revenue. 268 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:31,000 Yes. 269 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,000 Which we need. 270 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,000 It's not going to fully cover the cost. 271 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:35,000 Oh, you will. 272 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:36,000 It will end in some. 273 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:37,000 Okay. 274 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:41,000 If you're saying it's going to fully cover the cost and then some of the position. 275 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,000 If that's what we're being told. 276 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,000 Then I definitely would support that. 277 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:49,000 My one concern sometimes is that, you know, 278 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:53,000 we adopt these policies and we move forward on these types of. 279 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,000 Resolutions, right? 280 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:56,000 And then there's no follow-up. 281 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:57,000 So I'm not going to be here. 282 00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,000 I'm going to address that the public and the union. 283 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,000 Follow-up on that. 284 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,000 Right? You heard it here. 285 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,000 Hold us accountable. 286 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:07,000 Hold. 287 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,000 This city manager accountable. 288 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:10,000 I won't be here. 289 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,000 But for those reasons, 290 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:16,000 I'm going to support moving forward with this position. 291 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:17,000 Thank you. 292 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:21,000 Any other questions, comments? 293 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,000 I have some. 294 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:27,000 So I was actually going to pull this item because, you know, 295 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:32,000 write some of the very same feelings that Miss Camario and Mr. Garcia. 296 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,000 Like, I had some of the same concerns. 297 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:39,000 I was in a time when we're asking for, you know, 298 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:43,000 certain departments to take parachutes, 299 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,000 to take, you know, 300 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,000 effectively, early retirement. 301 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,000 So we can save for the budget. 302 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:54,000 And then we're going to add a position that's, 303 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,000 cool, and as far as the direct pay of our top cop, 304 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:58,000 the chief of police. 305 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,000 It's like almost on that same level. 306 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,000 It almost seems contradictory, 307 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,000 or even in some people that is Republican 308 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:10,000 for us to even, like, put this forward. 309 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:16,000 So, is, is it true? 310 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:21,000 Like we went through a lot of budget stuff in June, 311 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,000 and something stuck out at me, 312 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,000 and hoping to hold me to account here, 313 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:26,000 because I maybe never, 314 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,000 doesn't quite serve. 315 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,000 But in somewhere in the last four years, 316 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,000 did we go from, basically, 317 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:34,000 or expenditures? 318 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,000 And we go from, like, 35 million dollars to somewhere, 319 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,000 and then, in the neighborhood of 60 million, 320 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,000 in the last four years. 321 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,000 Like, is, it might just kind of, 322 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,000 I know there's just round numbers, 323 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:46,000 but I'm ballparking here. 324 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:47,000 Is that kind of accurate? 325 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:48,000 How about there? 326 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,000 It was part of, I think you're referring to the forecast 327 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,000 that we put together for future years, 328 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,000 and where we, when wrong, 329 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:55,000 was in the past, 330 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,000 that we had a huge increase in expenditures. 331 00:37:58,000 --> 00:37:59,000 That is correct. 332 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:03,000 And then, so it's basically more or less true. 333 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:04,000 When, something like, 334 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:05,000 $35 million city, 335 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:06,000 do you like a $60 million city? 336 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,000 It sounds right. 337 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:09,000 Okay. 338 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,000 And so from our discussions, 339 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,000 my takeaway was, 340 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,000 we hired a quite a few employees, 341 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,000 HR's the most expensive. 342 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:20,000 We're not exactly business, 343 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,000 but we're kind of like a business, 344 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,000 where we have the inputs and outputs. 345 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:25,000 You know, cash come in, 346 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,000 we cash going out. 347 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,000 What would you say was the biggest? 348 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,000 It's, like, 349 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:36,000 why did our budget lose so much in the last four years? 350 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,000 Did HR have something to do with that? 351 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:39,000 It is. 352 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:40,000 It's always in the FTE. 353 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:41,000 It's always employment. 354 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:44,000 That's where the bulk of the money goes 355 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:45,000 in any operation. 356 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:48,000 We are not unique that way. 357 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,000 So I'll give you a perfect example. 358 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,000 This position is replacing four. 359 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,000 Four people used to do this job 360 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,000 and now we have one. 361 00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:58,000 That's called efficiency. 362 00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:59,000 That's called writing, 363 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,000 hiring the right person for the right job. 364 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:07,000 That's where he has not done that in its history, 365 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:08,000 unfortunately. 366 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:09,000 Now, we are. 367 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:10,000 Okay. 368 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,000 So that puts me in a little bit of a Marty's. 369 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:18,000 So that was my concern is that we hired a lot of people. 370 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:22,000 And would you say that in certain apartments, 371 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,000 obviously not police and fire were, 372 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:28,000 short staff in a, especially in police? 373 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,000 But keeping the city running effectively, 374 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,000 and just cleaning out storm trains is important. 375 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,000 And making sure the stuff that is maybe not sexy, 376 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:38,000 but like keeps the city running very important. 377 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:43,000 But are there departments within the city that maybe potentially, 378 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:48,000 comparatively to certain cities of a similar size 379 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:51,000 that would like be over staff? 380 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:52,000 Yes. 381 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,000 You have to look at operations. 382 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,000 So let's start with fire. 383 00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:00,000 Fire will be under staff for a number of years, 384 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:04,000 especially now that we're preparing it to go into a district type of 385 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:05,000 structure. 386 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:10,000 It is very important to actually present the potential voters with a true 387 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:15,000 picture of what it costs to run a full service fire department. 388 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:20,000 Police, we have also been under staff for a number of reasons. 389 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:25,000 And that's why those two departments are not seeing any. 390 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,000 Work force reduction. 391 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,000 The rest of the departments, yes, we are consolidating. 392 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:35,000 There's a narrative out there that we will not be able to do the work 393 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,000 that we need to do that is false. 394 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:38,000 The work will get done. 395 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,000 It may not be done as quickly. 396 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:43,000 People may have to wait longer. 397 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:48,000 But the taxpayers expect services for their tax dollars. 398 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,000 Therefore, we have to provide those services. 399 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:56,000 Through smarter, more efficient management. 400 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,000 Staff will be work plan differently. 401 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:03,000 Please understand the most of our departments of two. 402 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,000 Let's say two weeks ago in how work plans. 403 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:10,000 I have no idea how people manage without a work plan. 404 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:15,000 Because when you have a work plan, you for example have a list of every park. 405 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,000 And you know when you're cleaning the bathrooms, 406 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,000 when we're feeding, moving the lawn, etc. 407 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:26,000 So if you don't have a work plan, then yes, I can see why you need 20 people to manage. 408 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:27,000 You don't. 409 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:32,000 What you need is a work plan, good management, and people who honor their work. 410 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:36,000 And if we have that, the city should be fine. 411 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:39,000 The city will be fine. 412 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:42,000 Yes, so I thank you for that. 413 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:45,000 You know, I brought it up a few times. 414 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:48,000 And I feel like I'm similar. 415 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,000 And I thought to council member, we're sending this. 416 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,000 I brought it up a few times. 417 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,000 Edward's Deming in the chison, continuing with some improvement approach. 418 00:41:55,000 --> 00:42:03,000 There can be efficiencies that can be found if we just look for ways to be more efficient. 419 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:08,000 And when you go in somewhere around four years from a $35 million city, 420 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:12,000 as far as what we spend to like a $60 million city, 421 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,000 that's in my in four years. 422 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:20,000 I don't know if that's the most discreet responsible way to run a city. 423 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:25,000 And knowing each or human resources are, they are in the face of the city. 424 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,000 They're helping us keep the city running. 425 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:33,000 They are the most expensive part of any organization such as ours. 426 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:37,000 HR is always the most expensive. 427 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:46,000 So I too would want to make sure that this new head count is doing what is. 428 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:50,000 And possible forecast like what we're going to get out of any employee, 429 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,000 but it sounds like if they're going to be paid with their pay, 430 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:58,000 which is similar, if it was the right pay if you are top cop, 431 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:03,000 that you for police, that they're going to do what we're asking. 432 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:08,000 If I could make that correction, if that position is picked to the captain, 433 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:09,000 it's not the chief. 434 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,000 The chief is executive. 435 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,000 This is a middle manager position. 436 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:14,000 I completed that. 437 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:15,000 Thank you. 438 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:20,000 But we're going to get what we are looking to like the chief. 439 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:27,000 If they're going to consolidate four or head count into one, that's helpful. 440 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:31,000 We're going to get, it's a revenue generating position. 441 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:35,000 That's also helpful. 442 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,000 I have another question. 443 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,000 We've had challenges. 444 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:43,000 I mean, we've had this place have the builders, 445 00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:50,000 contractors, people looking for permits home owners, 446 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:55,000 just trying to get a permit to make some modifications like for like for their homes 447 00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,000 people forever. 448 00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:02,000 Will this position, it says, will manage represented in un-represented staff? 449 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:09,000 Will they have some oversight over that apartment and help us find some efficiencies, 450 00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,000 where, I know we've hired a couple of best clerks. 451 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:14,000 We've hired somebody to answer the emails in the phones. 452 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:19,000 Will this position be able to help us continue to move forward? 453 00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:20,000 Absolutely. 454 00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:24,000 In fact, so these are some of the changes that we're making. 455 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:28,000 So let me start with number one efficiencies. 456 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:31,000 Let me be as clear as possible. 457 00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,000 It's not rocket science. 458 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,000 It is called sigma. 459 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,000 It's lean sigma. 460 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,000 It's alve, plenty of literature. 461 00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:42,000 Some of us have been blessed to be certified. 462 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:45,000 We know how to be efficient. 463 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:49,000 Number two, to manage your new workplace. 464 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:52,000 You plan your work and you work your plan. 465 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:56,000 And out of that, workmen are performance measures. 466 00:44:56,000 --> 00:45:00,000 Everyone in the organization will be... 467 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:25,000 We are accountable to achieve specific impacts, not process. I don't really like process, because process doesn't have to mean outcomes or impacts. So therefore, the performance measures will be on impact and impact alone. Right now, I'm sitting on work plans for every director, and by the way, we have many new faces. 468 00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:33,000 The white is over here for public works. We have Karen Crocker for parks and of course, no ill-mink for HR. 469 00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:41,000 So we have new directors, and everyone will have performance measures. The expectation is that they set the same thing for their employees. 470 00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:49,000 So, for this particular position, the performance measures are actually kind of simple. It's money. It's as simple as that. 471 00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:58,000 We see what revenue you have out of when you started the job, and then we see where it's going, because if it's not going, where it needs to be, then that's not working out. 472 00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:06,000 This is not about personalities. This is not about who we like. This is about who produces in this particular case is about money. 473 00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:24,000 Okay, thank you for that. That department has been challenging. So it's helpful to know that they would have some oversight in the permitting and building departments and help us to potentially create some efficiencies where we've had. 474 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:32,000 And hopefully, some better customer satisfaction, because it is kind of an output. It's something that we, it's service that we provide, right, permitting. 475 00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:42,000 And obviously, we have to permit things that are compliant with what the state is asking us to do, and make sure of these compliance. 476 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:48,000 So we put in how our heater or whatever, like that's, it's got permits and everything's safe. 477 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:54,000 And heck, you can make your, how you've got home a little bit better if you, you know, a little higher if you actually go to sign up. 478 00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:59,000 But that's, that's very helpful. Thank you. 479 00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:00,000 Thank you. 480 00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:05,000 Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. So you've identified the need, right. 481 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:17,000 Can you talk a little bit about the reporting structure and what is the or chart for who's reporting staff contractors vendors and then talk a little bit about you. 482 00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:24,000 You touched on the evaluation, right, but can you do you have a. 483 00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:34,000 I'm sure if at this point it would be a developmental evaluation to this office and what is the vision for that. 484 00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:38,000 Thank you for asking. So this position is a deputy. 485 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:47,000 Finance director therefore reporting to director Jessica O'Connell who couldn't be here this week. She had already asked for the time off. 486 00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:52,000 So this would be a member of her management team number. 487 00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:58,000 In fact, I don't really have any interaction with that position except for when there are problems. 488 00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:02,000 I will be going to her and saying it needs to be solved. 489 00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:12,000 As you may recall back in April when we suggested a re-org of the former community development department we indicated that it was a test. 490 00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:18,000 What we were doing was unique. I've seen a lot of things, but I have never seen permitting under finance. 491 00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:23,000 The experiment worked. So what we have now going back to customers satisfaction. 492 00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:35,000 We have a number of people if you wish to fill the room with them we can do that of all the people that are extremely thankful for how well things are going with permitting. 493 00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:42,000 In inspections we no longer have people saying that they are afraid of our public servants. 494 00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:49,000 We have people who are no longer asking for help because they feel victimized by the opposite. 495 00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:56,000 So the experiment worked at this point we had been staffing that position with a contractor. 496 00:48:56,000 --> 00:49:03,000 Our intention now is we don't need a contractor we know it's working plus contractors they're not employees right. 497 00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:14,000 And so if we make this into an employee position then the director of tunnel is responsible for the delivery of those outcomes. 498 00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:23,000 I can tell you that my expectation of her since she is running this particular team is a revenue goal. 499 00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:39,000 Now this position will be responsible as it is right now responsible for the desk the permitting desk responsible for any requests that are made for permits and special write ups. 500 00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:46,000 We have quite a bit of our public's records request is actually related to that and you will see that in the report. 501 00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:52,000 This position will also oversee any issues with. 502 00:49:52,000 --> 00:50:07,000 With projects that involve for example 10 years ago I was promised this and it hasn't been delivered or the city over charge me we need someone to investigate those allegations which we have been doing very successfully. 503 00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:16,000 We need someone that can meet with individuals who are not sure what is being requested of them one of the narratives that I hope you remembered is. 504 00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:29,000 One day they tell me one thing the next day they tell me something else this position puts an end because we have someone who's accountable for ensuring that the communication is consistent and is predictable and it's not I like you I don't like you. 505 00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:37,000 This position will also oversee the CIP component the engineers who work in our capital improvement projects. 506 00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:49,000 This position will ensure that there is communication between the engineers and the permitting process also the inspectors will come under this position. 507 00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:58,000 So you have a team that should be focused on getting to yes a team that should be focused on making sure that the fees are coming in. 508 00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:07,000 Development is happening people are happy and they continue to bring more business into the city. 509 00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:11,000 So I think the. 510 00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:20,000 Can you are you it doesn't have to be right now, but are you able to share your evaluation data in terms of was it a survey is it I mean total data is it. 511 00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:27,000 I think I like to see that I think people at least within my district or books that I spoke to. 512 00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:42,000 And they were understanding of kind of the community that I'll meet these point into finance that was awkward engineering going to finance that's a little awkward right capital improvement projects that's a little awkward. 513 00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:49,000 I think in concept is great I just want to make sure that we do I do my due diligence when it comes to those real. 514 00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,000 The real. 515 00:51:51,000 --> 00:52:01,000 From the from the vision and the concept to does it actually work in terms of having an engineer or you know. 516 00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:13,000 A non traditional role reporting to a finance director because there is a lot of coaching and mentoring work oversight expertise that does go into making sure that people are doing the work. 517 00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:25,000 Yes, and please understand in the job description is included to a certain degree we are looking for a unicorn we need someone with not only financial background, but also building background. 518 00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:34,000 We need someone who understands customer service but also understands how number crunch so it is a combination of all those things. 519 00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:52,000 Having said that we are confident that we can attract talent going back to this notion that the city is going through a financial challenge and we are very upfront with potential employees about the situation in the city. 520 00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:56,000 The reality is this the. 521 00:52:56,000 --> 00:53:04,000 Individuals that will join us moving forward in light of our financial difficulties. 522 00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:08,000 These are folks who are not scared of a challenge. 523 00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:17,000 These are folks that are perfectly happy with a boat that sunk to the bottom of the ocean and is only one way and that's up. 524 00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:22,000 This is not for someone who wants to roll roll your boat that gently down the string. 525 00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:30,000 This is for fighters those are the folks that are going to come and apply to the city because we're going to tell them if you're not a fighter you're not going to make it. 526 00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:39,000 So I'm confident that in light of the new leadership that we have that we're going to be attracted. 527 00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:44,000 We're going to be very attractive to individuals who want to challenge. 528 00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:48,000 So thank you for that. So just a full of my request. 529 00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:52,000 I'm looking for the evaluation data in terms of realignment. 530 00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:56,000 I'm looking for an organization chart which encompasses our. 531 00:53:56,000 --> 00:54:03,000 All time employees or coded positions and our contractive positions because I want to see what that looks like as well. 532 00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:04,000 Yep. 533 00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:14,000 And then in evaluation period and also the goal of how much revenue we're projecting spring in. 534 00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,000 Perfect. 535 00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:19,000 Thank you. 536 00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:21,000 Thank you. 537 00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:22,000 It's fair. 538 00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:24,000 Okay. So this is what I heard. 539 00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:26,000 No more contracted position. 540 00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:28,000 That's what I heard. 541 00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,000 It's a January. 542 00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:34,000 Revenue generating position. 543 00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,000 It's coming from an enterprise fund. 544 00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,000 It's supposed to pay for itself. 545 00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:40,000 So as far as council member. 546 00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,000 Morales is request. 547 00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:46,000 Like I think you're going to have to do that. 548 00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:52,000 But I think it's going to be in collaboration with the employees with the public with the management team here. 549 00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:56,000 Like that's a real concern is it working. 550 00:54:56,000 --> 00:55:04,000 What we said that we're going to follow is sustainable is this better for not only customer service for the public for the employees. 551 00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:08,000 I understand the concerns from the union members. 552 00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:10,000 I totally understand. 553 00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,000 But if those things are true. 554 00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:16,000 Then I think that would alleviate those concerns as well. 555 00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,000 So again. 556 00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:24,000 Accountability from the public from the management team from the city council members. 557 00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:27,000 That's what's going to have to happen. 558 00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:34,000 But I think it's going to have to be tried out before you can assess those things. 559 00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:39,000 And I would support everything council member Morales also asking for it. 560 00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:40,000 Yeah. 561 00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:41,000 Those are my thoughts. 562 00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:43,000 Thank you. 563 00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,000 Thank you. 564 00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:47,000 I just want to. 565 00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:50,000 I have a question council member Morales. 566 00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:51,000 Okay. 567 00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:53,000 So the data the flow chart. 568 00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:56,000 Is this something that we want. 569 00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:59,000 Prior to are you talking about when the positions already established. 570 00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:00,000 I might have missed something. 571 00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:01,000 Any projects. 572 00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,000 So it's an organizational chart. 573 00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:04,000 It's an affordable chart. 574 00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:05,000 That's a different process. 575 00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:06,000 No. 576 00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,000 And or track is basically who. 577 00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:11,000 Like who reports to whom including vendor. 578 00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:12,000 Right. 579 00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:13,000 Yeah. 580 00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:14,000 Okay. 581 00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:15,000 The structure. 582 00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:17,000 Okay. 583 00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:18,000 Okay. 584 00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:19,000 Okay. 585 00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,000 Thank you. 586 00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:22,000 For comments. 587 00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:25,000 And also for Christina and Frank as well for coming out. 588 00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,000 And so. 589 00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:32,000 You know, I completely understand the concerns in the financial. 590 00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:35,000 The financial challenges our city has. 591 00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:36,000 What I've noticed. 592 00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:38,000 This is just from. 593 00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:48,000 My own perspective. 594 00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:53,000 That it seems like we've had consistently. 595 00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:56,000 Structural issues within. 596 00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:59,000 Within our city positions. 597 00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:02,000 And those structural issues. 598 00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:05,000 Unfortunately. 599 00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:07,000 Lead to foundational issues. 600 00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:10,000 And so the foundation has become rocky. 601 00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:12,000 And. 602 00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:14,000 It's. 603 00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:15,000 It's. 604 00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:16,000 I would say. 605 00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:18,000 It's just got us to where we are now. 606 00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:21,000 And we're trying to kind of just fill in. 607 00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:24,000 The cracks to kind of just see. 608 00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:27,000 What we can produce as a city because. 609 00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:31,000 We can look down for years. 610 00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:33,000 I would use a community of here knows that. 611 00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:34,000 In this part. 612 00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:39,000 If this is part of the solution to help our community thrive, especially when it comes to. 613 00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:41,000 Epinomical development. 614 00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:45,000 That is so, so important because that has been left behind. 615 00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:46,000 And that's why you know. 616 00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:49,000 We grow so much with the housing bracket. 617 00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:50,000 Over here. 618 00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:51,000 However. 619 00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:54,000 Our resources are straight to support all the people. 620 00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:55,000 In this community. 621 00:57:55,000 --> 00:58:04,600 this community and that's why our public safety department is so tasked with being short with 622 00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:12,200 resources and staff and that's unfortunate. So if it becomes a burden of everyone in the community 623 00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:21,400 and if this is part of that opportunity that we have to help our community grow in a beneficial way 624 00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:28,120 and bring in some revenue that would be, you know, it would be ideal. So yeah, those are just 625 00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:51,720 five thoughts. So was there a motion to approve this item? So moved. All those in favor? All right, bye. Any opposed? 626 00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:58,360 Now we're then moving on to item 8.1 public hearing for the ecology and we'll rate adjustment in 627 00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:06,600 maximum allowable solid waste collection rates. Maybe we have a stop for report please. So we have 628 00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:19,720 from innovative voices. Good evening, Vice Mayor DeAnda Council members. My name is Selena Stotler, 629 00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:26,120 I'm the Integrated Waste Management Manager for the Regional Agency. Joining me is Mike Kelly with 630 00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:32,040 Recology, our exclusive franchise holler for the cities of Hollister, Simul Matista and the county of 631 00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:38,440 Simul. And then I also have joining me, Katherine Mirrors, our staff analyst. I have worked closely with 632 00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:43,800 Council members, Loris, who serves on our integrated waste local task force and has provided thoughtful 633 00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:49,640 recommendations and guidance over the past couple of years on the Regional Agency's solid waste 634 00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:54,520 programs. I've also had the pleasure of meeting many of you at our community events like Earth Day, 635 00:59:54,520 --> 01:00:02,520 Celebration, I think, some number of Resendez was our MC back up in two years ago and 636 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:05,500 And then we've also had many of you celebrate our Green Business Mixers. Thank you for supporting 637 01:00:05,500 --> 01:00:06,500 Integrity Waste. 638 01:00:06,500 --> 01:00:12,000 Well, we appreciate our opportunities to engage with the community. Through those events tonight, 639 01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:16,200 we're here for a different purpose, the Recology Rate. This public hearing is being held in 640 01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:22,100 accordance with Prop 218 regarding the proposed solid waste service rates. The purpose of the hearing 641 01:00:22,100 --> 01:00:27,900 is to receive public comments and announce the results of the written protest process and consider 642 01:00:27,900 --> 01:00:33,900 adoption of those proposed rates. If a majority protest has not been received. At this time, 643 01:00:33,900 --> 01:00:38,900 I'd like to recommend that the Vice Mayor, open the public hearing to receive public 644 01:00:38,900 --> 01:00:42,900 testimony on the proposed race. Thank you. 645 01:00:42,900 --> 01:00:44,900 Thank you. 646 01:00:44,900 --> 01:00:49,900 Do we have any questions from the council? 647 01:00:49,900 --> 01:00:56,900 Okay. I'll now open public hearing on this item. That's fine. 648 01:00:56,900 --> 01:00:59,900 Do we have any public comments? No, man. 649 01:00:59,900 --> 01:01:04,900 So now I will close the public hearing for this item. 650 01:01:04,900 --> 01:01:08,900 Is there any motion to, oh, does anybody have any questions? 651 01:01:08,900 --> 01:01:10,900 We may have a discussion about that. 652 01:01:10,900 --> 01:01:14,900 I guess I'm disappointed if we get any protocols. How many did we get? 653 01:01:14,900 --> 01:01:17,900 We have about 236 protests. 654 01:01:17,900 --> 01:01:19,900 And what's the number that we needed? 655 01:01:19,900 --> 01:01:20,900 5,000. 656 01:01:20,900 --> 01:01:21,900 Okay. 657 01:01:21,900 --> 01:01:23,900 It was just 5,091. 658 01:01:23,900 --> 01:01:25,900 Okay. That's good. I think to put out their publicly. 659 01:01:25,900 --> 01:01:27,900 Thank you for that. 660 01:01:27,900 --> 01:01:29,900 With that said, did you have a question? 661 01:01:29,900 --> 01:01:31,900 Okay, perhaps. 662 01:01:31,900 --> 01:01:36,900 So thank you for the presentation in the work. 663 01:01:36,900 --> 01:01:42,900 I know your team has up an automobile job of just everything and working on numbers and just 664 01:01:42,900 --> 01:01:50,900 our partners with ecology have really heard that concerns about affordability. 665 01:01:50,900 --> 01:01:55,900 And so the comments I share here is for strategy purpose. 666 01:01:55,900 --> 01:02:02,900 So we raised a water rates, PG&E race rates, grocery prices, gas prices. 667 01:02:02,900 --> 01:02:06,900 So my ask is that we do it. 668 01:02:06,900 --> 01:02:11,900 I saw on the report that there's an opportunity for people with fixed incomes to be able to apply. 669 01:02:11,900 --> 01:02:18,900 And so my ask of this council is that we have a campaign strategy communication 670 01:02:18,900 --> 01:02:26,900 and effort to make sure that our residents with fixed income really understand that there are these opportunities for them. 671 01:02:26,900 --> 01:02:33,900 There to to be some relief in terms of a or a rate reduction. 672 01:02:33,900 --> 01:02:36,900 I believe it's in the moment with PG&E care. 673 01:02:36,900 --> 01:02:38,900 So it's very similar. 674 01:02:38,900 --> 01:02:45,900 So if they do one, they would also not only qualify for PG&E, but also our water rate discounts. 675 01:02:45,900 --> 01:02:49,900 And we are integrated waste management as well. 676 01:02:49,900 --> 01:02:51,900 So I'm really concerned about that. 677 01:02:51,900 --> 01:02:56,900 I know that a lot of fixed population are seeing years, folks with disability may not have 678 01:02:56,900 --> 01:02:59,900 may consume information in a very different way. 679 01:02:59,900 --> 01:03:09,900 So I am asking the council and our partners to be partners with with an intentional campaign to really communicate to a population about 680 01:03:09,900 --> 01:03:14,900 making sure that they understand the resources and they can access a way to actually process. 681 01:03:14,900 --> 01:03:18,900 Those applications. 682 01:03:18,900 --> 01:03:20,900 Thank you, council member. 683 01:03:20,900 --> 01:03:23,900 Miles, any other questions, comments? 684 01:03:23,900 --> 01:03:26,900 I have just a little comment. 685 01:03:26,900 --> 01:03:31,900 You know, any time we talk about like rate studies. 686 01:03:31,900 --> 01:03:37,900 The community knows what likely the direction of the rates are going to go. 687 01:03:37,900 --> 01:03:40,900 We inflated the dollar during COVID, right? 688 01:03:40,900 --> 01:03:42,900 We inflated the dollar. 689 01:03:42,900 --> 01:03:47,900 It takes way more dollars to chase the same or fewer goods. 690 01:03:47,900 --> 01:03:49,900 You know, it just takes more dollars to do anything. 691 01:03:49,900 --> 01:03:51,900 And then, you know, the straighter form. 692 01:03:51,900 --> 01:03:53,900 It was, you know, kill prices around. 693 01:03:53,900 --> 01:03:55,900 Everybody's getting hit over the head. 694 01:03:55,900 --> 01:03:58,900 I mean, grocery prices, everything. 695 01:03:58,900 --> 01:04:03,900 But these funds need to stay solvent, right? 696 01:04:03,900 --> 01:04:06,900 Like, you know, we have enterprise funds ourselves. 697 01:04:06,900 --> 01:04:10,900 That we had in touch since like 2018, 2019. 698 01:04:10,900 --> 01:04:15,900 That's, you know, going on 10 years, you know, so we need to make these funds whole. 699 01:04:15,900 --> 01:04:21,900 So when costs go up, you know, for, you know, everything in the world. 700 01:04:21,900 --> 01:04:23,900 We need to analyze these things. 701 01:04:23,900 --> 01:04:26,900 And I would, you know, I would submit, I would submit. 702 01:04:26,900 --> 01:04:30,900 I'd rather that, you know, we do it on an annual basis. 703 01:04:30,900 --> 01:04:33,900 I mean, I'd probably first time seeing you in here. 704 01:04:33,900 --> 01:04:35,900 Maybe we did this presentation before. 705 01:04:35,900 --> 01:04:37,900 Is this an annual thing? 706 01:04:37,900 --> 01:04:41,900 We did to 2018 in 2021. 707 01:04:41,900 --> 01:04:47,900 And at that time, it was administratively decided by the cities in the county to do a five year. 708 01:04:47,900 --> 01:04:48,900 Okay. 709 01:04:48,900 --> 01:04:50,900 Not to exceed five percent. 710 01:04:50,900 --> 01:04:54,900 So that is the same pathway that we're doing today. 711 01:04:54,900 --> 01:04:55,900 Okay. 712 01:04:55,900 --> 01:04:58,900 Because when it comes to the city, we should probably looking at things annually. 713 01:04:58,900 --> 01:05:01,900 But the way things are going with the dollar, we should be doing it annually. 714 01:05:01,900 --> 01:05:06,900 It just hurts a little bit less if it's two to three percent per year. 715 01:05:06,900 --> 01:05:11,900 Instead of like every nine years, we do like a major thing. 716 01:05:11,900 --> 01:05:14,900 So, I guess that's just my comment. 717 01:05:14,900 --> 01:05:15,900 We just do it. 718 01:05:15,900 --> 01:05:20,900 If we did it annually, it might just hurt only a little bit less. 719 01:05:20,900 --> 01:05:23,900 But we've got to keep these funds whole. 720 01:05:23,900 --> 01:05:25,900 And this will responsibilities. 721 01:05:25,900 --> 01:05:29,900 Something that we all, we all agree. 722 01:05:30,900 --> 01:05:32,900 Thank you. 723 01:05:32,900 --> 01:05:33,900 Thank you. 724 01:05:33,900 --> 01:05:34,900 I agree with Councilwoman Morales. 725 01:05:34,900 --> 01:05:37,900 So we know you guys do a great job with your outreach. 726 01:05:37,900 --> 01:05:41,900 But you are going to be offering like a low income program. 727 01:05:41,900 --> 01:05:45,900 There is, there is a low income program with for ecology. 728 01:05:45,900 --> 01:05:54,900 And we more recently at the recommendation of local task force increased outreach through social media, the bill inserts. 729 01:05:54,900 --> 01:05:59,900 And so we love to partner more with the cities and the county to increase. 730 01:05:59,900 --> 01:06:04,900 At this time, we've seen a study increase in the participation. 731 01:06:04,900 --> 01:06:09,900 But in my opinion, there's a lot of room for improvement. 732 01:06:09,900 --> 01:06:17,900 For example, just at this time, we have 800 participants in the low income compared to 2021, which was at 339. 733 01:06:17,900 --> 01:06:18,900 That's really good. 734 01:06:18,900 --> 01:06:19,900 So yeah, that's promising. 735 01:06:19,900 --> 01:06:20,900 Again, no matter. 736 01:06:20,900 --> 01:06:21,900 Yeah, we have to pair bills. 737 01:06:21,900 --> 01:06:24,900 But like, some people kind of forward to pay the bills. 738 01:06:24,900 --> 01:06:27,900 So even though we want to go, like, that's always something. 739 01:06:27,900 --> 01:06:29,900 I'm just going to invite you guys to keep the money. 740 01:06:29,900 --> 01:06:31,900 Couple of Morales just hit that element ahead. 741 01:06:31,900 --> 01:06:33,900 Like, let's do outreach. 742 01:06:33,900 --> 01:06:34,900 Especially that population. 743 01:06:34,900 --> 01:06:37,900 I think they do a little bit more outreach. 744 01:06:37,900 --> 01:06:40,900 They're not, you know, the older people that are on a fixed income. 745 01:06:40,900 --> 01:06:45,900 You know, they're not as, I don't know, as involved with acknowledging 746 01:06:45,900 --> 01:06:46,900 those bills. 747 01:06:46,900 --> 01:06:47,900 It's really helpful. 748 01:06:47,900 --> 01:06:48,900 So that's great news. 749 01:06:48,900 --> 01:06:49,900 So you guys can just keep that in mind. 750 01:06:49,900 --> 01:06:52,900 Keep pushing that forward because things are getting more costly out there. 751 01:06:52,900 --> 01:06:55,900 So thank you guys for that. 752 01:06:55,900 --> 01:06:56,900 Thank you. 753 01:06:56,900 --> 01:06:57,900 Thank you. 754 01:06:57,900 --> 01:07:01,900 I agree with many of the sentiments of my colleagues up here. 755 01:07:01,900 --> 01:07:05,900 And some of the thank you so much for your continuous work. 756 01:07:05,900 --> 01:07:07,900 Also your colleagues back there. 757 01:07:07,900 --> 01:07:12,900 And yes, so further forward to covering more events with you. 758 01:07:12,900 --> 01:07:17,900 And please, if you need anything from us, just slide. 759 01:07:17,900 --> 01:07:20,900 Thank you. 760 01:07:20,900 --> 01:07:22,900 Anything else? 761 01:07:22,900 --> 01:07:23,900 Oh, yeah. 762 01:07:23,900 --> 01:07:24,900 Okay. 763 01:07:24,900 --> 01:07:26,900 So instead of most of your groups this item. 764 01:07:26,900 --> 01:07:28,900 I will move to a group this item. 765 01:07:28,900 --> 01:07:29,900 Matter of ice. 766 01:07:29,900 --> 01:07:30,900 Can I get a second? 767 01:07:30,900 --> 01:07:31,900 Oh, second. 768 01:07:31,900 --> 01:07:33,900 All those in favor. 769 01:07:33,900 --> 01:07:34,900 All right. 770 01:07:34,900 --> 01:07:35,900 Any opposed? 771 01:07:36,900 --> 01:07:39,900 All right. 772 01:07:39,900 --> 01:07:43,900 And now we're moving on to committee assignments. 773 01:07:43,900 --> 01:07:46,900 Does anybody have anything to report? 774 01:07:46,900 --> 01:07:49,900 Go ahead. 775 01:07:49,900 --> 01:07:54,900 Just we had an obviously July was off. 776 01:07:54,900 --> 01:07:58,900 But I just want to remind our refresh for integrated waste management. 777 01:07:58,900 --> 01:08:04,900 We are looking at the RFE and we will have meetings to discuss the review and 778 01:08:04,900 --> 01:08:05,900 recommendations. 779 01:08:05,900 --> 01:08:08,900 I believe our senior managers part of that. 780 01:08:08,900 --> 01:08:12,900 I was selected to be part of that process as well. 781 01:08:12,900 --> 01:08:14,900 And we should have a complete fine. 782 01:08:14,900 --> 01:08:18,900 November. 783 01:08:18,900 --> 01:08:19,900 Marguer. 784 01:08:19,900 --> 01:08:20,900 Everything okay? 785 01:08:20,900 --> 01:08:21,900 Yeah. 786 01:08:21,900 --> 01:08:23,900 Okay. 787 01:08:23,900 --> 01:08:25,900 Nice. 788 01:08:25,900 --> 01:08:26,900 Thank you. 789 01:08:26,900 --> 01:08:27,900 Thank you. 790 01:08:27,900 --> 01:08:28,900 Can't deliver. 791 01:08:28,900 --> 01:08:29,900 No. 792 01:08:29,900 --> 01:08:31,900 Nothing to report. 793 01:08:32,900 --> 01:08:33,900 No. 794 01:08:33,900 --> 01:08:34,900 Okay. 795 01:08:34,900 --> 01:08:35,900 I myself have nothing to report. 796 01:08:35,900 --> 01:08:38,900 July is usually a recess for everybody. 797 01:08:38,900 --> 01:08:42,900 So those committee assignments should be put on hold. 798 01:08:42,900 --> 01:08:46,900 And as we prepare to go into the next half of the year. 799 01:08:46,900 --> 01:08:47,900 Okay. 800 01:08:47,900 --> 01:08:48,900 So. 801 01:08:48,900 --> 01:08:49,900 Okay. 802 01:08:49,900 --> 01:08:50,900 So. 803 01:08:50,900 --> 01:08:51,900 So. 804 01:08:51,900 --> 01:08:52,900 So. 805 01:08:52,900 --> 01:08:53,900 So. 806 01:08:53,900 --> 01:08:54,900 So. 807 01:08:54,900 --> 01:08:55,900 So. 808 01:08:55,900 --> 01:08:56,900 So. 809 01:08:56,900 --> 01:08:57,900 So. 810 01:08:57,900 --> 01:08:58,900 So. 811 01:08:58,900 --> 01:08:59,900 So. 812 01:08:59,900 --> 01:09:00,900 So. 813 01:09:00,900 --> 01:09:01,900 So. 814 01:09:01,900 --> 01:09:02,900 So I'm not going to say. 815 01:09:02,900 --> 01:09:03,900 So. 816 01:09:03,900 --> 01:09:15,900 Oh. 817 01:09:15,900 --> 01:09:16,900 So. 818 01:09:16,900 --> 01:09:17,900 So. 819 01:09:17,900 --> 01:09:18,900 Yeah. 820 01:09:18,900 --> 01:09:19,900 So. 821 01:09:19,900 --> 01:09:20,900 So. 822 01:09:20,900 --> 01:09:21,900 So. 823 01:09:21,900 --> 01:09:25,900 So. 824 01:09:25,900 --> 01:09:26,900 Oh. 825 01:09:26,900 --> 01:09:32,740 of utilities. I work private public. So I actually have experienced work for some of the largest 826 01:09:32,740 --> 01:09:38,100 companies in the world. I'm really excited to come here and have an amazing vision and I'm excited 827 01:09:38,100 --> 01:09:46,740 to be part of it. So I'm excited to be working to work for us. Thank you. And Mr. White is taking the lead 828 01:09:46,740 --> 01:09:52,580 on our response to the water board. We have, as you may recall, in order to survive a nation, 829 01:09:52,580 --> 01:10:00,420 we send information. They send us more questions. Mr. White and his team are working on a response. 830 01:10:00,980 --> 01:10:07,140 And we will go from there. We already had some very interesting discussions about some of our partners 831 01:10:07,700 --> 01:10:12,660 and some of the expectations that we will be having of them in the future if they want to continue 832 01:10:12,660 --> 01:10:21,540 being our partners. As far as meetings with our water collaborators, we have meetings with 833 01:10:21,540 --> 01:10:27,860 sunny slope. And also with the county's water district in which both of us are going to attend 834 01:10:27,860 --> 01:10:35,780 need their governance body. We already went by sunny slope and met Mr. Lander. We have not gone to the 835 01:10:35,780 --> 01:10:42,580 district just yet. But we are beginning to build our village. Our utilities need a village. We cannot 836 01:10:42,660 --> 01:10:49,940 do this alone. And we're beginning to talk to other entities as well. People know, 837 01:10:50,580 --> 01:10:55,380 other firms know of our challenges and they are being very proactive in reaching out to us to see 838 01:10:55,380 --> 01:11:01,860 how they can be part of the solution. So very happy in that regard. Moving on to incentives, I'm actually 839 01:11:01,860 --> 01:11:11,620 going to let Ms. Noelle Mink speak on some of these measures. Yes, we proud to work for 840 01:11:11,620 --> 01:11:17,060 incentives and we've had five people respond. So right now, Stephanie Brown, I can hear familiar with. 841 01:11:17,060 --> 01:11:21,220 And I are meeting with those five employees and giving them a lot of information about what it will 842 01:11:21,220 --> 01:11:27,060 look like for them. And then they have approximately two weeks to give us the solid date. They have to meet 843 01:11:27,620 --> 01:11:34,100 Chairman, our retirement date. And then we'll process and move those forward. I anticipate at least four. 844 01:11:34,820 --> 01:11:39,540 Potentially five. We had five people request information and asked to be considered 845 01:11:39,540 --> 01:11:44,980 at everyone's position as you meet. So we're just taking our time with them, taking care of meeting 846 01:11:44,980 --> 01:11:49,060 with them, making sure they have all the information that they need. It's a big decision. And 847 01:11:49,060 --> 01:11:55,220 an normal circumstances, right? People's retirement is a big deal. And now with this, it's even more 848 01:11:55,220 --> 01:12:03,940 careful consideration. So more to come in there. So we, as we present to the council, we 849 01:12:03,940 --> 01:12:10,820 our approach was to first incentivize for those who had enough years in the city. It was not mandatory. 850 01:12:10,820 --> 01:12:15,220 It was completely optional. People made their own personal decisions, whether or not they wanted to take 851 01:12:15,220 --> 01:12:22,660 advantage of the incentive. I mean, the realities that folks that are retirement age, chances are that 852 01:12:22,660 --> 01:12:28,260 they have low longevity here in the city. So regardless of layers, it's highly unlikely they will not be touched. 853 01:12:29,220 --> 01:12:35,860 For MOUs, we have to always go with the most junior. So the folks at the top stay in the top 854 01:12:35,860 --> 01:12:43,140 side of the bottom, the folks at the bottom have to go. And so we wish more people would have taken it. 855 01:12:43,140 --> 01:12:50,020 But that's what it is. And so the council had indicated that we could use up to $300,000 for those incentive. 856 01:12:50,020 --> 01:12:55,060 So the remaining, we will use as we begin separating individuals from the city. 857 01:12:56,020 --> 01:13:05,220 Historical holoster RFP. On your on the desk, on the dyes, you will see a draft, a draft that we 858 01:13:05,220 --> 01:13:13,860 are ready to release, probably soon, which is for us requesting partners that would want to either 859 01:13:13,860 --> 01:13:26,340 a service promoters of the next historical holoster A, A, B, or B as the C for support. So that they can 860 01:13:27,780 --> 01:13:37,060 execute the event. One of the key differences between this and our original bike rally is that this is a 861 01:13:37,060 --> 01:13:43,860 four-day event. So as I mentioned to some of you during the event, my business appointment was 862 01:13:43,860 --> 01:13:53,540 that we didn't have 30,000 people, 40,000 people. A lot goes into the planning. A lot of money spent on this 863 01:13:53,540 --> 01:14:02,020 event in success is attached to the number of folks that come. The more, the better. I have shared with you 864 01:14:02,020 --> 01:14:08,340 some of my thoughts about some other events that take place in the Pacific, and I took all three states, 865 01:14:08,340 --> 01:14:14,820 because to a certain degree, I think we are very similar. And I gave you information on events. There are two 866 01:14:14,820 --> 01:14:22,740 day long in the type of guests, the number of guests that they attract, and it's hundreds and hundreds, thousands and thousands, 867 01:14:22,980 --> 01:14:32,100 and also for the events. So, we are also asking for responses for an event that will be taking place 868 01:14:32,100 --> 01:14:41,140 in 2028. There are two reasons for that. Number one, we need time to really prepare an event that is going to 869 01:14:41,140 --> 01:14:48,660 attract just for the sake of putting a goal out there, 30,000 people. To do that, we need time. Number two, 870 01:14:48,740 --> 01:14:55,300 it is highly unlikely that there will be any money in the budget for the next fiscal year. So, 871 01:14:55,300 --> 01:14:59,940 we are not saying abandon this approach. Why the opposite? We're leaning into it. 872 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:08,000 One more of it, but we're also saying let's do this right. Let's make sure that we can capitalize this to the highest degree. 873 01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:14,000 So if it takes a little longer, it gives us a breather as far as the financial commitment. 874 01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:24,000 And so that's the information that I had with you regarding the RFP. And last but not least, we have given you the first report, 875 01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:39,000 or what will be an ongoing report to you all. So if you go to the very end of the agenda packet, you will see that we have given you all the public's requests that we received in the month of June. 876 01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:49,000 We will be doing this every month, so that we can see, for example, the Nicholas Berlinson requested information and the description is there. 877 01:15:49,000 --> 01:16:18,000 Mark Surrada, Pierre Molen, Wol Park, several Wol Park is very busy. Timothy Vaughn, Wol Park again, David Mendoza, Alyssa Leeds, Sarah Jackson, Jojo Matthew, Chris Chris, Jerry and Christina Gutierrez, Adam, and the list goes on. So this gives you a sense, this gives the public a sense of what type of information is being requested. 878 01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:29,000 We don't hide things in the city, hiding takes effort, and we're too busy for that. So this is a way of saying, folks, we're not hiding anything, here it is. 879 01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:40,000 This is also inefficient, so council member Shay, since you like efficiencies. For example, we have a number of folks that are requesting information from the permitted department. 880 01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:55,000 One has to ask, do you really need to submit a public request request for that? Why can you just go over there and get in get it? The reason for it was, Gianna, this is the only way that we can get any information from the old community development department. 881 01:16:55,000 --> 01:17:22,000 What we're saying is, that was then this is now, you don't need a puree, but don't take my word for it, let's make it happen. So we are working on how we link information. Right now, you can go there's the other mystery is all the secret contracts that the city manager has, well, all of our contracts are in our transparency portal. You can see not only the contracts for this year, but the ones going back to, I don't even know the beginning of times. 882 01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:43,000 Everything is done in the open, we just haven't had the technology to show it, but now we do. Nothing is being done in some dark alley in the middle of the night, everything is done according to the systems that we have in the policies that we have in anybody can see it. 883 01:17:43,000 --> 01:18:10,000 Thank you. Okay, so let's circle back to a couple of points that you just made. You've got direction for the 300,000 given sentence. Where do you assume that your direction is to use that money to lay people off? Was that in the language that was adopted, the direction from the council that you were given? How do you make that assumption? You went from giving incentives to employees to you're going to use it to fire them, essentially that's what I heard. 884 01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:23,000 I'm actually councilmember, you make a very good observation. The MOUs that the union entered into do not have any language, providing any serents package to any of the laypeople. 885 01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:32,000 I'm talking about the direction you got from the council for the 300,000, but that's a major chance. Let's just slow down a little bit. 886 01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:38,000 Okay. And remember, you, as a city manager, get direction from the council. 887 01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:48,000 Correct. Number two, you essentially said the bike arally is not going to happen until 2028 did you not just say that? 888 01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:56,000 That is correct. Okay. So you, speaking of not hiding things, I don't see the bike arally on the agenda. 889 01:18:56,000 --> 01:19:13,000 I'm a city of holster residents voted almost 70% to have a bike arally. What was the direction from this council on not having a bike arally till 2028? How did you make that? 890 01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:19,000 That's what is being proposed, but that's why by me, which is why you gave you that direction. 891 01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:27,000 That's, this is my report to you. Okay. You don't make that decision. I'm not making that decision, sir. This is why we're giving it to you. 892 01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:37,000 So we're giving it decision. No decision has been made. My role is to report, which is what I'm doing. I am not making decisions. 893 01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:45,000 Okay. It is the council who gets to decide whether or not you want to release an RFP, whether or not you want to have a rally, whether or not you want four days. 894 01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:55,000 Right. Just reminding you of that, because that's not what I've heard, and I, I just want to slow down and make sure we're following the process. 895 01:19:55,000 --> 01:20:01,000 If you would like to have a study session, which would be great to discuss this RFP, then let's have it. 896 01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:13,000 I think there's an ad hoc committee, the most appropriate thing to do, would be to flesh this out, because this is an RFP that was 897 01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:28,000 The on the on chat GPT, I know channel GPT, this is a chat GPT RFP that you're proposing for us not to have bike rally till 2028. That is something very contentious, not only with our staff here. 898 01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:38,000 We know that, but with the public, and you do not get to make that decision that there's no bike rally, and this is my interpretation until 2028. 899 01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:46,000 Correct. I'm letting you know that in the budget for 2027, it is not our intention to allocate those funds. 900 01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:50,000 That's my proposal to the council. The council can say no. 901 01:20:50,000 --> 01:21:01,000 Exactly. So if you're a people, my point is this, Mr. Curtis, the people who want the bike rally need to have it properly agenda is. 902 01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:08,000 They need to have a discussion with all of us up here who make that decision. 903 01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:09,000 That's fine. 904 01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:19,000 That's what concerns me about what I just heard. That's all. That to me is like, 905 01:21:19,000 --> 01:21:22,000 Why would you like to agenda is it? 906 01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:27,000 Number one, I think it should go through that ad hoc committee. 907 01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:38,000 So if we can have a conversation about this RFP and about what the future of the bike rally would like like, I think it should go through that ad hoc committee. 908 01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:40,000 Can I get a vote from the council? 909 01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:45,000 No, excuse me. I'm still talking. 910 01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:56,000 Number two, then I would recommend that like we do with all ad hoc committees, we bring it back to the council and we ask for consensus to move forward. 911 01:21:56,000 --> 01:22:05,000 Number three, this council gives you direction on what is going to happen with that bike rally. 912 01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:12,000 So can I have a direction from the council, please? I'm here in direction from one member of the council. 913 01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:18,000 What, what excuse me? Do I not have a right as an ad hoc committee member? 914 01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:23,000 I have a meeting with you to talk about the bike rally. 915 01:22:23,000 --> 01:22:29,000 The future of the bike rally to talk about how the bike rally went. 916 01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:32,000 Is it down with the mayor? Am I missing something here? 917 01:22:32,000 --> 01:22:35,000 Yes, you want to agenda is decided. 918 01:22:35,000 --> 01:22:40,000 So I'm asking for the right to ask the ad hoc committee to bring that back forward. 919 01:22:40,000 --> 01:22:42,000 The question is the agenda is in the agenda. 920 01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:45,000 Can you chime in, please? 921 01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:05,000 Can you chime in, please? 922 01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:07,000 In writing, correct. 923 01:23:07,000 --> 01:23:10,000 Correct. 924 01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:11,000 Correct. 925 01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:16,000 And about my recommendation to bring it to the ad hoc committee. 926 01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:21,000 Thank you. 927 01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:22,000 Thank you. 928 01:23:22,000 --> 01:23:24,000 That's really good. 929 01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:26,000 Wonderful. 930 01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:27,000 Thank you. 931 01:23:27,000 --> 01:23:30,000 Okay. I will leave it at that. 932 01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:31,000 Okay. 933 01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:35,000 Okay. So we need an approval from the council. 934 01:23:35,000 --> 01:23:37,000 Is this no. 935 01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:39,000 Okay. 936 01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:41,000 All right. 937 01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:42,000 Is that all? 938 01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:43,000 That's it. 939 01:23:43,000 --> 01:23:44,000 Okay. 940 01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:45,000 Thank you. 941 01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:46,000 Question. 942 01:23:46,000 --> 01:23:47,000 Is there comments? 943 01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:49,000 Can I start? 944 01:23:49,000 --> 01:23:50,000 All right. 945 01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:51,000 Well, thank you. 946 01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:53,000 So now we're going to move into closed session. 947 01:23:53,000 --> 01:23:57,000 Does the committee attorney to red-close session? 948 01:23:57,000 --> 01:23:59,000 Item sleep. 949 01:23:59,000 --> 01:24:01,000 One of the safeouts. 950 01:24:01,000 --> 01:24:04,000 To the committee. 951 01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:06,000 This is for the executive. 952 01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:08,000 I have four. 953 01:24:08,000 --> 01:24:10,000 A. 954 01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:12,000 A. 955 01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:15,000 The executive. 956 01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:16,000 A. 957 01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:18,000 Deputy executive. 958 01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:19,000 A. 959 01:24:19,000 --> 01:24:36,000 Thank you, City Attorney, City Court, do we have any public comments on the site? 960 01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:38,000 Any of these items? 961 01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:39,000 No, guys, Mayor. 962 01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:40,000 Thank you. 963 01:24:40,000 --> 01:24:41,000 Thank you. 964 01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:44,000 So now, right, meeting's adjourned? 965 01:24:44,000 --> 01:24:45,000 Thank you, everybody. 966 01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:47,000 Jennifer, if you could just hold on a sec. 967 01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:49,000 I did you want to have any here? 968 01:24:49,000 --> 01:24:51,000 I could set up that room too. 969 01:24:59,000 --> 01:25:01,000 Okay, Jennifer, you could stay on this. 970 01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:18,000 Thank you. 971 01:25:18,000 --> 01:25:19,000 Thank you.