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vaccination, recognizing August 2026 as National Press Meeting Awareness Month and August 1st, August 7, 2026 as World Press Meeting Week.

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Now we're going to be on to 5.4 city council subpoena training.

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Hello, my name is Leah Calderon and the Administrative Analyst here for the City Manager's Office.

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And I have prepared a presentation for subpoena training.

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Okay, first, what is a subpoena?

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So, a subpoena is a legal order requiring action through the court system.

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A subpoena may require the city to provide certain documents.

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For example, emails, reports, contracts, meeting notes, as well as permit, or you could be required to provide testimony.

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So we thought you would need to attend a hearing, and answers are in questions under oath.

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And the difference between the subpoena and a public records request is that it is issued through a legal process, and it may require a mandatory compliance.

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Where a public records request is requiring certain documents, but it's not through the court system.

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So, some of the do's and do's for subpoenas are to preserve records, say emails, make sure you keep everything.

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Please do not delete any records, do not edit them, make sure you preserve them as they are.

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There are, as I mentioned, different types of subpoenas.

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First one is document type, and the other one is to appear personally in court, which requires you to testify.

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And so what happens when a subpoena arrives?

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So step one, you receive the document.

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Make sure you record when you receive it.

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Who served it?

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Deadline, requesting party.

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For example, individuals are generally not served directly, and said the city of Hollister as an agency is served to the city clerk's office.

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So once the subpoena is received, the city clerk would then contact legal counsel.

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So it's very important, for example, city council member receives a subpoena through the city of Hollister to contact legal counsel, as well as if they were to be served personally as well.

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So subpoenas involving the city council members, as just mentioned, the city clerk's office will probably go over the subpoena to the city attorney for review and guidance.

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So the city attorney will then determine their appropriate response and advise the city council member on any required action.

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The response process, again, pretty similar, as was mentioned earlier, make sure you review your records, including the date range, responsible departments, as well as collect any emails and any records that you would have or any reports and make sure everything is documented.

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Common mistakes would be ignore the subpoena, missing deadlines, delaying records, it could be pretty common that if you happen to miss a subpoena date, the court might not let you know right away, but that does not mean that the court is not keeping records that you have not attended.

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So with that, I will move on to the next slide, and so the key takeaways here are if you receive a subpoena, please stop and preserve all records and notify the city clerk as well as coordinating all of your information and again, please never respond to that.

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So that is the end of my presentation, if you have any questions, please let me know.

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Any questions?

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I do have a question.

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I've gotten a few in the last couple of year now, and obviously we want to be timely about subpoenas are very important, and the bodies that are requesting us to be interviewed are also important to have an important job to do.

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Is it appropriate if we have a meeting let's say it's a special meeting and it completes with the interview.

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Just a reschedule with the subpoena body and whatever the organization is that issue of the subpoena.

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I can get back to you on that question with the correct information.

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Miss inform you, but keep in mind that all subpoenas are really important to keep track of the day because the court is keeping track and it's very.

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It's very important to do that as well as they're very unique to the type of court, so that is all up to the judge whether if you haven't been to certain subpoena days.

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There's different penalties right there could be fine, and eventually so that's all up to the judge, but I can definitely get more information on your question.

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Thank you.

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Thank you not a question but Miss Thompson's on on the line in my experience as long as it's documented between the two parties it's agreed upon.

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I think the court will find that reasonable enough to make accommodations.

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I think of course it's the court they can do what they want if they wanted to but in that experience councilmember cliche I would say that's a pretty reasonable.

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Experience an expectation on my behalf Miss Thompson do you want to chime in on that.

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In council members this presentation this training was one of the recommendations in the grand jury reports so check.

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So when we get on to public comment this is the time for anyone in the audience to speak on any item not obvious gender and within the subject matter jurisdiction.

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So speaking cards are available in the lobby and are to be completed and given to city clerk before speaking.

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When the city clerk calls your name please come to the podium state your name and city for the records and speak to the city council.

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If you are joining us via zoom please hit the bottom of your screen to raise your hand if you are joining us via zoom using cell phone please press.

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Our nine each speaker will be limited to three minutes with the maximum of 30 minutes per subject.

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Please note that state law prohibits the city council from discussing or taking action on any items not on the agenda.

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So in court do we have any public comments not for non-adidas items.

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So now we're moving on to consent.

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Do any members of the council have any brief questions or comments on items from the consent agenda.

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We are pulling items 7.11 and we'll be hearing that after the consent calendar.

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All right.

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So that and then do you have to vote for that or no.

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So 7.11 is a resolution approving the creation of the deputy finance officer construction and capital management position and establishing its place on the city's compensation plan.

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Do you have any comments or questions?

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Do you go to that for or should we have public?

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We could do you public comment on consent and do a vote on consent and then we could go to 7.11.

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Okay so let's go ahead and go into it to public comment.

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Okay and we have Christine.

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That's for item 7.11.

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Sorry not for consent.

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So we don't have any speaker cards for it.

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The rest of the consent calendar.

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Thank you.

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Okay.

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So.

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The size.

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Okay.

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So besides you moving 7.11.

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Does anybody have any questions or comments on other consent items?

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Can I get a motion to approve?

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I moved to approve.

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Second.

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All consent items.

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But 7.11.

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All right.

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All in favor.

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Can you pose?

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So now let's move to each other.

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So.

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Okay.

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So.

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So.

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I just want from consent agenda.

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Okay.

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So let's see.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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In their motion to approve this point.

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No.

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We have a discussion.

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We have a public comment.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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Hello, city council.

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Thank you for having me today.

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So my subject that I wanted to discuss was item 7.11.

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My concern with this item on the agenda is that we're creating positions.

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For a resolution to create an indefinance officer construction and construction and capital management.

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It's really hard to justify to create a position of this or any other hiring decisions at this time.

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When we are still faced with a horrible budget that we all know.

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I have a detailed conversation with city manager just a few weeks ago.

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And she referenced at least 15 times that we have no money.

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No money to spend.

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There's no money to do incentives.

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There's no money.

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There's going to be an officer.

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Nothing.

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She could do.

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There's no money.

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But when we.

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Physicians.

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On the agenda to approve.

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It feels like there's money for the things that we want in administration.

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But there's no money for utilities or the police department or for fire.

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Right now we should be in the position where there's a hiring freeze on everything with the exception of police and fire.

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Because those are should be the only things that we're worried about at this point.

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And then we need to pull the person's back.

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I don't understand why.

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We still have the city manager allowing her to spend up to or the city manager to spend up to $220,000.

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Without no oversight.

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She's we should be buying pencils if we have no money.

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Orpons.

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Right.

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So we can't live outside of our means but we're still hiring positions that are very.

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They're going to hit the budget significantly.

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And then we want to eliminate the positions that are going to affect the public.

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We want to contract to send us a water.

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We want to pay them to tell us how to run our utilities.

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It doesn't make sense.

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I believe we are welcoming a new director for utilities for the city.

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City utilities.

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And they're going to have their hands full.

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Because we're trying to eliminate their staff.

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Or asking these people to do a job with five people, eight people.

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Let's eliminate 17 positions.

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But then we're going to hire construction manager.

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I just want you guys to really consider where we're putting our money.

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And how we're going to affect the community.

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I'm speaking to you today as a community member.

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I'm concerned that we are.

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We are directing our funds in direction that doesn't necessarily benefit the community.

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And if we are going to do this, you know, we are going to create positions like this.

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There needs to be really, really strong oversight of how it's going to benefit us.

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Who's going to pay for it?

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How we're going to control it and manage it.

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Without that, that position is not going to be an enterprise fund.

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And that's what we keep saying.

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There's no money because the enterprise funds are stuck in it all up.

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You know, we're taking our money.

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So please consider how we hire.

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Thank you, Christina.

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Right, Garcia.

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You're taking me counsel.

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Welcome back. My name is Frank Garcia, the city employee for public works. For months, employees have been told the city is facing financial crisis. We've been told about restructuring, eliminating positions and reducing staff. And making difficult sacrifices because there is enough money.

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We've also seen a written statement that staffing evaluations were requested without repair work included.

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If that's how staffing was evaluated, how do you determine how many employees you need without including all the work they performed?

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Tonight, you're asking this council to create a brand new senior management position, so I have a few questions.

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If the city truly cannot afford to keep the employees it already has, how can it afford to create a brand new senior management position?

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If the city says it must eliminate positions because of financial challenges, one analysis demonstrates that creating this position is a higher priority than preserving the position the city says it can no longer afford.

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Where's the analysis showing this position provides greater value than retaining the employees serving this community every day?

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What medical savings will this position actually produce? And finally, why should employees accept that there isn't enough money to keep them, but there isn't enough money to expand management?

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These aren't rhetorical questions, they deserve answers. Because tonight's agenda, since two very different messages, one message says there isn't enough money to keep employees, the other says there is enough money to create another senior management position.

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Those two messages cannot both be true. Tonight, this council is about to decide what its priorities are.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, Frank.

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I have no more speakers for this item.

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Thank you. Okay. So now we'll move to...

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If I can.

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Thank you.

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So thank you all for coming and speaking up on it. I do have a couple of questions if I can't see the minute or so.

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This position that's been created is kind of multifaceted, right?

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So they're going to be looking over finances, capital improvement projects, public works, it sounds like.

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Permitting, so permitting, construction permits, CIP, engineering.

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And it's going to be parted through an enterprise fund?

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Interesting enough. It is because our development isn't enterprise fund.

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It actually brings revenues not only for its own operation, but other parts of the general fund.

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Okay.

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This is a revenue-producing position.

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We wish we had more of those.

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This is a call center that actually has a revenue center.

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Okay. And then my other question, nobody was laid off.

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Like all the unions obviously didn't get a raise, which is very unfortunate.

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But we were able to save everybody's jobs like we said we were going to.

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As of today, right? Everybody...

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No positions were...

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One member of the staff has been laid off.

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Okay.

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Five members to give advantage of our incentive.

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Okay.

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Good.

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Good.

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Good.

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Good.

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Okay.

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So in my eyes, the way that I'm justifying this is that the city of Haltzers behind on their audits.

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We need more people looking over the finances in order for us to sort of pull back those pockets.

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What did you call the purse strings?

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So in my eyes, the way that I'm justifying it, nobody lost their jobs.

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We're going to be taking money from an enterprise fund, which I see the concern of the union that could go towards the workers.

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But a huge priority of this council.

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And of you all, I think, so that we know where we're at.

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Fine, actually, is to get some more people to look into the finances.

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We need to get those audits numbers caught up.

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And I'm assuming I'm just assuming that this position is going to be working towards that.

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Councilmember, let me actually give you.

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Bad news is not exactly good news is this position is about bringing money.

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This is a position that is specifically created to increase revenues.

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How do we increase revenues through our permitting process?

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Once upon a time the city would take months if not years to process its permits.

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That's money we're not collecting.

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So in April, we restructure.

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We went ahead and sent that particular revenue center that had not been produced in revenues to the finance department.

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Why?

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Because finance is about money.

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And we took a different approach on how we're conducting our permitting process.

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Is it looking at it as red tape?

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We're looking at it as money.

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The quicker we move, the quicker we release our permits,

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without violating any regulations.

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It's money in the bank.

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That's what this position is about.

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Money in the bank.

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So your logic is that they're going to generate revenue.

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Yes.

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Which we need.

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It's not going to fully cover the cost.

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Oh, you will.

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It will end in some.

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Okay.

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If you're saying it's going to fully cover the cost and then some of the position.

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If that's what we're being told.

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Then I definitely would support that.

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My one concern sometimes is that, you know,

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we adopt these policies and we move forward on these types of.

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Resolutions, right?

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And then there's no follow-up.

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So I'm not going to be here.

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I'm going to address that the public and the union.

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Follow-up on that.

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Right? You heard it here.

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Hold us accountable.

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Hold.

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This city manager accountable.

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I won't be here.

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But for those reasons,

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I'm going to support moving forward with this position.

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Thank you.

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Any other questions, comments?

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I have some.

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So I was actually going to pull this item because, you know,

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write some of the very same feelings that Miss Camario and Mr. Garcia.

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Like, I had some of the same concerns.

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I was in a time when we're asking for, you know,

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certain departments to take parachutes,

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to take, you know,

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effectively, early retirement.

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So we can save for the budget.

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And then we're going to add a position that's,

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cool, and as far as the direct pay of our top cop,

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the chief of police.

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It's like almost on that same level.

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It almost seems contradictory,

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or even in some people that is Republican

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for us to even, like, put this forward.

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So, is, is it true?

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Like we went through a lot of budget stuff in June,

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and something stuck out at me,

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and hoping to hold me to account here,

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because I maybe never,

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doesn't quite serve.

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But in somewhere in the last four years,

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did we go from, basically,

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or expenditures?

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And we go from, like, 35 million dollars to somewhere,

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and then, in the neighborhood of 60 million,

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in the last four years.

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Like, is, it might just kind of,

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I know there's just round numbers,

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but I'm ballparking here.

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Is that kind of accurate?

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How about there?

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It was part of, I think you're referring to the forecast

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that we put together for future years,

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and where we, when wrong,

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was in the past,

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that we had a huge increase in expenditures.

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That is correct.

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And then, so it's basically more or less true.

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When, something like,

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$35 million city,

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do you like a $60 million city?

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It sounds right.

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Okay.

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And so from our discussions,

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my takeaway was,

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we hired a quite a few employees,

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HR's the most expensive.

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We're not exactly business,

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but we're kind of like a business,

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where we have the inputs and outputs.

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You know, cash come in,

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we cash going out.

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What would you say was the biggest?

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It's, like,

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why did our budget lose so much in the last four years?

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Did HR have something to do with that?

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It is.

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It's always in the FTE.

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It's always employment.

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That's where the bulk of the money goes

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in any operation.

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We are not unique that way.

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So I'll give you a perfect example.

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This position is replacing four.

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Four people used to do this job

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and now we have one.

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That's called efficiency.

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That's called writing,

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hiring the right person for the right job.

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That's where he has not done that in its history,

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unfortunately.

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Now, we are.

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Okay.

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So that puts me in a little bit of a Marty's.

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So that was my concern is that we hired a lot of people.

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And would you say that in certain apartments,

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obviously not police and fire were,

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short staff in a, especially in police?

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But keeping the city running effectively,

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and just cleaning out storm trains is important.

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And making sure the stuff that is maybe not sexy,

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but like keeps the city running very important.

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But are there departments within the city that maybe potentially,

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comparatively to certain cities of a similar size

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that would like be over staff?

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Yes.

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You have to look at operations.

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So let's start with fire.

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Fire will be under staff for a number of years,

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especially now that we're preparing it to go into a district type of

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structure.

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It is very important to actually present the potential voters with a true

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picture of what it costs to run a full service fire department.

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Police, we have also been under staff for a number of reasons.

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And that's why those two departments are not seeing any.

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Work force reduction.

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The rest of the departments, yes, we are consolidating.

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There's a narrative out there that we will not be able to do the work

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that we need to do that is false.

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The work will get done.

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It may not be done as quickly.

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People may have to wait longer.

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But the taxpayers expect services for their tax dollars.

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Therefore, we have to provide those services.

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Through smarter, more efficient management.

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Staff will be work plan differently.

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Please understand the most of our departments of two.

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Let's say two weeks ago in how work plans.

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I have no idea how people manage without a work plan.

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Because when you have a work plan, you for example have a list of every park.

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And you know when you're cleaning the bathrooms,

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when we're feeding, moving the lawn, etc.

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So if you don't have a work plan, then yes, I can see why you need 20 people to manage.

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You don't.

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What you need is a work plan, good management, and people who honor their work.

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And if we have that, the city should be fine.

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The city will be fine.

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Yes, so I thank you for that.

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You know, I brought it up a few times.

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And I feel like I'm similar.

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And I thought to council member, we're sending this.

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I brought it up a few times.

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Edward's Deming in the chison, continuing with some improvement approach.

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There can be efficiencies that can be found if we just look for ways to be more efficient.

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And when you go in somewhere around four years from a $35 million city,

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as far as what we spend to like a $60 million city,

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that's in my in four years.

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I don't know if that's the most discreet responsible way to run a city.

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And knowing each or human resources are, they are in the face of the city.

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They're helping us keep the city running.

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They are the most expensive part of any organization such as ours.

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HR is always the most expensive.

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So I too would want to make sure that this new head count is doing what is.

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And possible forecast like what we're going to get out of any employee,

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but it sounds like if they're going to be paid with their pay,

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which is similar, if it was the right pay if you are top cop,

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that you for police, that they're going to do what we're asking.

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If I could make that correction, if that position is picked to the captain,

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it's not the chief.

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The chief is executive.

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This is a middle manager position.

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I completed that.

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Thank you.

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But we're going to get what we are looking to like the chief.

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If they're going to consolidate four or head count into one, that's helpful.

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We're going to get, it's a revenue generating position.

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That's also helpful.

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I have another question.

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We've had challenges.

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I mean, we've had this place have the builders,

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contractors, people looking for permits home owners,

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just trying to get a permit to make some modifications like for like for their homes

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people forever.

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Will this position, it says, will manage represented in un-represented staff?

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Will they have some oversight over that apartment and help us find some efficiencies,

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where, I know we've hired a couple of best clerks.

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We've hired somebody to answer the emails in the phones.

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Will this position be able to help us continue to move forward?

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Absolutely.

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In fact, so these are some of the changes that we're making.

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So let me start with number one efficiencies.

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Let me be as clear as possible.

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It's not rocket science.

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It is called sigma.

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It's lean sigma.

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It's alve, plenty of literature.

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Some of us have been blessed to be certified.

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We know how to be efficient.

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Number two, to manage your new workplace.

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You plan your work and you work your plan.

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And out of that, workmen are performance measures.

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Everyone in the organization will be...

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We are accountable to achieve specific impacts, not process. I don't really like process, because process doesn't have to mean outcomes or impacts. So therefore, the performance measures will be on impact and impact alone. Right now, I'm sitting on work plans for every director, and by the way, we have many new faces.

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The white is over here for public works. We have Karen Crocker for parks and of course, no ill-mink for HR.

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So we have new directors, and everyone will have performance measures. The expectation is that they set the same thing for their employees.

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So, for this particular position, the performance measures are actually kind of simple. It's money. It's as simple as that.

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We see what revenue you have out of when you started the job, and then we see where it's going, because if it's not going, where it needs to be, then that's not working out.

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This is not about personalities. This is not about who we like. This is about who produces in this particular case is about money.

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Okay, thank you for that. That department has been challenging. So it's helpful to know that they would have some oversight in the permitting and building departments and help us to potentially create some efficiencies where we've had.

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And hopefully, some better customer satisfaction, because it is kind of an output. It's something that we, it's service that we provide, right, permitting.

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And obviously, we have to permit things that are compliant with what the state is asking us to do, and make sure of these compliance.

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So we put in how our heater or whatever, like that's, it's got permits and everything's safe.

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And heck, you can make your, how you've got home a little bit better if you, you know, a little higher if you actually go to sign up.

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But that's, that's very helpful. Thank you.

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Thank you.

483
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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. So you've identified the need, right.

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Can you talk a little bit about the reporting structure and what is the or chart for who's reporting staff contractors vendors and then talk a little bit about you.

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You touched on the evaluation, right, but can you do you have a.

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I'm sure if at this point it would be a developmental evaluation to this office and what is the vision for that.

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00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:38,000
Thank you for asking. So this position is a deputy.

488
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:47,000
Finance director therefore reporting to director Jessica O'Connell who couldn't be here this week. She had already asked for the time off.

489
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:52,000
So this would be a member of her management team number.

490
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:58,000
In fact, I don't really have any interaction with that position except for when there are problems.

491
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:02,000
I will be going to her and saying it needs to be solved.

492
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:12,000
As you may recall back in April when we suggested a re-org of the former community development department we indicated that it was a test.

493
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:18,000
What we were doing was unique. I've seen a lot of things, but I have never seen permitting under finance.

494
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:23,000
The experiment worked. So what we have now going back to customers satisfaction.

495
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:35,000
We have a number of people if you wish to fill the room with them we can do that of all the people that are extremely thankful for how well things are going with permitting.

496
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:42,000
In inspections we no longer have people saying that they are afraid of our public servants.

497
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:49,000
We have people who are no longer asking for help because they feel victimized by the opposite.

498
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:56,000
So the experiment worked at this point we had been staffing that position with a contractor.

499
00:48:56,000 --> 00:49:03,000
Our intention now is we don't need a contractor we know it's working plus contractors they're not employees right.

500
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:14,000
And so if we make this into an employee position then the director of tunnel is responsible for the delivery of those outcomes.

501
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:23,000
I can tell you that my expectation of her since she is running this particular team is a revenue goal.

502
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:39,000
Now this position will be responsible as it is right now responsible for the desk the permitting desk responsible for any requests that are made for permits and special write ups.

503
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:46,000
We have quite a bit of our public's records request is actually related to that and you will see that in the report.

504
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:52,000
This position will also oversee any issues with.

505
00:49:52,000 --> 00:50:07,000
With projects that involve for example 10 years ago I was promised this and it hasn't been delivered or the city over charge me we need someone to investigate those allegations which we have been doing very successfully.

506
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:16,000
We need someone that can meet with individuals who are not sure what is being requested of them one of the narratives that I hope you remembered is.

507
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:29,000
One day they tell me one thing the next day they tell me something else this position puts an end because we have someone who's accountable for ensuring that the communication is consistent and is predictable and it's not I like you I don't like you.

508
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:37,000
This position will also oversee the CIP component the engineers who work in our capital improvement projects.

509
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:49,000
This position will ensure that there is communication between the engineers and the permitting process also the inspectors will come under this position.

510
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:58,000
So you have a team that should be focused on getting to yes a team that should be focused on making sure that the fees are coming in.

511
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:07,000
Development is happening people are happy and they continue to bring more business into the city.

512
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:11,000
So I think the.

513
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:20,000
Can you are you it doesn't have to be right now, but are you able to share your evaluation data in terms of was it a survey is it I mean total data is it.

514
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:27,000
I think I like to see that I think people at least within my district or books that I spoke to.

515
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:42,000
And they were understanding of kind of the community that I'll meet these point into finance that was awkward engineering going to finance that's a little awkward right capital improvement projects that's a little awkward.

516
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:49,000
I think in concept is great I just want to make sure that we do I do my due diligence when it comes to those real.

517
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,000
The real.

518
00:51:51,000 --> 00:52:01,000
From the from the vision and the concept to does it actually work in terms of having an engineer or you know.

519
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:13,000
A non traditional role reporting to a finance director because there is a lot of coaching and mentoring work oversight expertise that does go into making sure that people are doing the work.

520
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:25,000
Yes, and please understand in the job description is included to a certain degree we are looking for a unicorn we need someone with not only financial background, but also building background.

521
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:34,000
We need someone who understands customer service but also understands how number crunch so it is a combination of all those things.

522
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:52,000
Having said that we are confident that we can attract talent going back to this notion that the city is going through a financial challenge and we are very upfront with potential employees about the situation in the city.

523
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:56,000
The reality is this the.

524
00:52:56,000 --> 00:53:04,000
Individuals that will join us moving forward in light of our financial difficulties.

525
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:08,000
These are folks who are not scared of a challenge.

526
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:17,000
These are folks that are perfectly happy with a boat that sunk to the bottom of the ocean and is only one way and that's up.

527
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:22,000
This is not for someone who wants to roll roll your boat that gently down the string.

528
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:30,000
This is for fighters those are the folks that are going to come and apply to the city because we're going to tell them if you're not a fighter you're not going to make it.

529
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:39,000
So I'm confident that in light of the new leadership that we have that we're going to be attracted.

530
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:44,000
We're going to be very attractive to individuals who want to challenge.

531
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:48,000
So thank you for that. So just a full of my request.

532
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:52,000
I'm looking for the evaluation data in terms of realignment.

533
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:56,000
I'm looking for an organization chart which encompasses our.

534
00:53:56,000 --> 00:54:03,000
All time employees or coded positions and our contractive positions because I want to see what that looks like as well.

535
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:04,000
Yep.

536
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:14,000
And then in evaluation period and also the goal of how much revenue we're projecting spring in.

537
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,000
Perfect.

538
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:19,000
Thank you.

539
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:21,000
Thank you.

540
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:22,000
It's fair.

541
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:24,000
Okay. So this is what I heard.

542
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:26,000
No more contracted position.

543
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:28,000
That's what I heard.

544
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,000
It's a January.

545
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:34,000
Revenue generating position.

546
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,000
It's coming from an enterprise fund.

547
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,000
It's supposed to pay for itself.

548
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:40,000
So as far as council member.

549
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,000
Morales is request.

550
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:46,000
Like I think you're going to have to do that.

551
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:52,000
But I think it's going to be in collaboration with the employees with the public with the management team here.

552
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:56,000
Like that's a real concern is it working.

553
00:54:56,000 --> 00:55:04,000
What we said that we're going to follow is sustainable is this better for not only customer service for the public for the employees.

554
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:08,000
I understand the concerns from the union members.

555
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:10,000
I totally understand.

556
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,000
But if those things are true.

557
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:16,000
Then I think that would alleviate those concerns as well.

558
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,000
So again.

559
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:24,000
Accountability from the public from the management team from the city council members.

560
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:27,000
That's what's going to have to happen.

561
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:34,000
But I think it's going to have to be tried out before you can assess those things.

562
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:39,000
And I would support everything council member Morales also asking for it.

563
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:40,000
Yeah.

564
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:41,000
Those are my thoughts.

565
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:43,000
Thank you.

566
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,000
Thank you.

567
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:47,000
I just want to.

568
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:50,000
I have a question council member Morales.

569
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:51,000
Okay.

570
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:53,000
So the data the flow chart.

571
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:56,000
Is this something that we want.

572
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:59,000
Prior to are you talking about when the positions already established.

573
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:00,000
I might have missed something.

574
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:01,000
Any projects.

575
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,000
So it's an organizational chart.

576
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:04,000
It's an affordable chart.

577
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:05,000
That's a different process.

578
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:06,000
No.

579
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,000
And or track is basically who.

580
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:11,000
Like who reports to whom including vendor.

581
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:12,000
Right.

582
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:13,000
Yeah.

583
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:14,000
Okay.

584
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:15,000
The structure.

585
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:17,000
Okay.

586
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:18,000
Okay.

587
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:19,000
Okay.

588
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,000
Thank you.

589
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:22,000
For comments.

590
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:25,000
And also for Christina and Frank as well for coming out.

591
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,000
And so.

592
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:32,000
You know, I completely understand the concerns in the financial.

593
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:35,000
The financial challenges our city has.

594
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:36,000
What I've noticed.

595
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:38,000
This is just from.

596
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:48,000
My own perspective.

597
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:53,000
That it seems like we've had consistently.

598
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:56,000
Structural issues within.

599
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:59,000
Within our city positions.

600
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:02,000
And those structural issues.

601
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:05,000
Unfortunately.

602
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:07,000
Lead to foundational issues.

603
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:10,000
And so the foundation has become rocky.

604
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:12,000
And.

605
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:14,000
It's.

606
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:15,000
It's.

607
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:16,000
I would say.

608
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:18,000
It's just got us to where we are now.

609
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:21,000
And we're trying to kind of just fill in.

610
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:24,000
The cracks to kind of just see.

611
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:27,000
What we can produce as a city because.

612
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:31,000
We can look down for years.

613
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:33,000
I would use a community of here knows that.

614
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:34,000
In this part.

615
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:39,000
If this is part of the solution to help our community thrive, especially when it comes to.

616
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:41,000
Epinomical development.

617
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:45,000
That is so, so important because that has been left behind.

618
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:46,000
And that's why you know.

619
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:49,000
We grow so much with the housing bracket.

620
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:50,000
Over here.

621
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:51,000
However.

622
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:54,000
Our resources are straight to support all the people.

623
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:55,000
In this community.

624
00:57:55,000 --> 00:58:04,600
this community and that's why our public safety department is so tasked with being short with

625
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:12,200
resources and staff and that's unfortunate. So if it becomes a burden of everyone in the community

626
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:21,400
and if this is part of that opportunity that we have to help our community grow in a beneficial way

627
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:28,120
and bring in some revenue that would be, you know, it would be ideal. So yeah, those are just

628
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:51,720
five thoughts. So was there a motion to approve this item? So moved. All those in favor? All right, bye. Any opposed?

629
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:58,360
Now we're then moving on to item 8.1 public hearing for the ecology and we'll rate adjustment in

630
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:06,600
maximum allowable solid waste collection rates. Maybe we have a stop for report please. So we have

631
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:19,720
from innovative voices. Good evening, Vice Mayor DeAnda Council members. My name is Selena Stotler,

632
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:26,120
I'm the Integrated Waste Management Manager for the Regional Agency. Joining me is Mike Kelly with

633
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:32,040
Recology, our exclusive franchise holler for the cities of Hollister, Simul Matista and the county of

634
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:38,440
Simul. And then I also have joining me, Katherine Mirrors, our staff analyst. I have worked closely with

635
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:43,800
Council members, Loris, who serves on our integrated waste local task force and has provided thoughtful

636
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:49,640
recommendations and guidance over the past couple of years on the Regional Agency's solid waste

637
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:54,520
programs. I've also had the pleasure of meeting many of you at our community events like Earth Day,

638
00:59:54,520 --> 01:00:02,520
Celebration, I think, some number of Resendez was our MC back up in two years ago and

639
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:05,500
And then we've also had many of you celebrate our Green Business Mixers. Thank you for supporting

640
01:00:05,500 --> 01:00:06,500
Integrity Waste.

641
01:00:06,500 --> 01:00:12,000
Well, we appreciate our opportunities to engage with the community. Through those events tonight,

642
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:16,200
we're here for a different purpose, the Recology Rate. This public hearing is being held in

643
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:22,100
accordance with Prop 218 regarding the proposed solid waste service rates. The purpose of the hearing

644
01:00:22,100 --> 01:00:27,900
is to receive public comments and announce the results of the written protest process and consider

645
01:00:27,900 --> 01:00:33,900
adoption of those proposed rates. If a majority protest has not been received. At this time,

646
01:00:33,900 --> 01:00:38,900
I'd like to recommend that the Vice Mayor, open the public hearing to receive public

647
01:00:38,900 --> 01:00:42,900
testimony on the proposed race. Thank you.

648
01:00:42,900 --> 01:00:44,900
Thank you.

649
01:00:44,900 --> 01:00:49,900
Do we have any questions from the council?

650
01:00:49,900 --> 01:00:56,900
Okay. I'll now open public hearing on this item. That's fine.

651
01:00:56,900 --> 01:00:59,900
Do we have any public comments? No, man.

652
01:00:59,900 --> 01:01:04,900
So now I will close the public hearing for this item.

653
01:01:04,900 --> 01:01:08,900
Is there any motion to, oh, does anybody have any questions?

654
01:01:08,900 --> 01:01:10,900
We may have a discussion about that.

655
01:01:10,900 --> 01:01:14,900
I guess I'm disappointed if we get any protocols. How many did we get?

656
01:01:14,900 --> 01:01:17,900
We have about 236 protests.

657
01:01:17,900 --> 01:01:19,900
And what's the number that we needed?

658
01:01:19,900 --> 01:01:20,900
5,000.

659
01:01:20,900 --> 01:01:21,900
Okay.

660
01:01:21,900 --> 01:01:23,900
It was just 5,091.

661
01:01:23,900 --> 01:01:25,900
Okay. That's good. I think to put out their publicly.

662
01:01:25,900 --> 01:01:27,900
Thank you for that.

663
01:01:27,900 --> 01:01:29,900
With that said, did you have a question?

664
01:01:29,900 --> 01:01:31,900
Okay, perhaps.

665
01:01:31,900 --> 01:01:36,900
So thank you for the presentation in the work.

666
01:01:36,900 --> 01:01:42,900
I know your team has up an automobile job of just everything and working on numbers and just

667
01:01:42,900 --> 01:01:50,900
our partners with ecology have really heard that concerns about affordability.

668
01:01:50,900 --> 01:01:55,900
And so the comments I share here is for strategy purpose.

669
01:01:55,900 --> 01:02:02,900
So we raised a water rates, PG&E race rates, grocery prices, gas prices.

670
01:02:02,900 --> 01:02:06,900
So my ask is that we do it.

671
01:02:06,900 --> 01:02:11,900
I saw on the report that there's an opportunity for people with fixed incomes to be able to apply.

672
01:02:11,900 --> 01:02:18,900
And so my ask of this council is that we have a campaign strategy communication

673
01:02:18,900 --> 01:02:26,900
and effort to make sure that our residents with fixed income really understand that there are these opportunities for them.

674
01:02:26,900 --> 01:02:33,900
There to to be some relief in terms of a or a rate reduction.

675
01:02:33,900 --> 01:02:36,900
I believe it's in the moment with PG&E care.

676
01:02:36,900 --> 01:02:38,900
So it's very similar.

677
01:02:38,900 --> 01:02:45,900
So if they do one, they would also not only qualify for PG&E, but also our water rate discounts.

678
01:02:45,900 --> 01:02:49,900
And we are integrated waste management as well.

679
01:02:49,900 --> 01:02:51,900
So I'm really concerned about that.

680
01:02:51,900 --> 01:02:56,900
I know that a lot of fixed population are seeing years, folks with disability may not have

681
01:02:56,900 --> 01:02:59,900
may consume information in a very different way.

682
01:02:59,900 --> 01:03:09,900
So I am asking the council and our partners to be partners with with an intentional campaign to really communicate to a population about

683
01:03:09,900 --> 01:03:14,900
making sure that they understand the resources and they can access a way to actually process.

684
01:03:14,900 --> 01:03:18,900
Those applications.

685
01:03:18,900 --> 01:03:20,900
Thank you, council member.

686
01:03:20,900 --> 01:03:23,900
Miles, any other questions, comments?

687
01:03:23,900 --> 01:03:26,900
I have just a little comment.

688
01:03:26,900 --> 01:03:31,900
You know, any time we talk about like rate studies.

689
01:03:31,900 --> 01:03:37,900
The community knows what likely the direction of the rates are going to go.

690
01:03:37,900 --> 01:03:40,900
We inflated the dollar during COVID, right?

691
01:03:40,900 --> 01:03:42,900
We inflated the dollar.

692
01:03:42,900 --> 01:03:47,900
It takes way more dollars to chase the same or fewer goods.

693
01:03:47,900 --> 01:03:49,900
You know, it just takes more dollars to do anything.

694
01:03:49,900 --> 01:03:51,900
And then, you know, the straighter form.

695
01:03:51,900 --> 01:03:53,900
It was, you know, kill prices around.

696
01:03:53,900 --> 01:03:55,900
Everybody's getting hit over the head.

697
01:03:55,900 --> 01:03:58,900
I mean, grocery prices, everything.

698
01:03:58,900 --> 01:04:03,900
But these funds need to stay solvent, right?

699
01:04:03,900 --> 01:04:06,900
Like, you know, we have enterprise funds ourselves.

700
01:04:06,900 --> 01:04:10,900
That we had in touch since like 2018, 2019.

701
01:04:10,900 --> 01:04:15,900
That's, you know, going on 10 years, you know, so we need to make these funds whole.

702
01:04:15,900 --> 01:04:21,900
So when costs go up, you know, for, you know, everything in the world.

703
01:04:21,900 --> 01:04:23,900
We need to analyze these things.

704
01:04:23,900 --> 01:04:26,900
And I would, you know, I would submit, I would submit.

705
01:04:26,900 --> 01:04:30,900
I'd rather that, you know, we do it on an annual basis.

706
01:04:30,900 --> 01:04:33,900
I mean, I'd probably first time seeing you in here.

707
01:04:33,900 --> 01:04:35,900
Maybe we did this presentation before.

708
01:04:35,900 --> 01:04:37,900
Is this an annual thing?

709
01:04:37,900 --> 01:04:41,900
We did to 2018 in 2021.

710
01:04:41,900 --> 01:04:47,900
And at that time, it was administratively decided by the cities in the county to do a five year.

711
01:04:47,900 --> 01:04:48,900
Okay.

712
01:04:48,900 --> 01:04:50,900
Not to exceed five percent.

713
01:04:50,900 --> 01:04:54,900
So that is the same pathway that we're doing today.

714
01:04:54,900 --> 01:04:55,900
Okay.

715
01:04:55,900 --> 01:04:58,900
Because when it comes to the city, we should probably looking at things annually.

716
01:04:58,900 --> 01:05:01,900
But the way things are going with the dollar, we should be doing it annually.

717
01:05:01,900 --> 01:05:06,900
It just hurts a little bit less if it's two to three percent per year.

718
01:05:06,900 --> 01:05:11,900
Instead of like every nine years, we do like a major thing.

719
01:05:11,900 --> 01:05:14,900
So, I guess that's just my comment.

720
01:05:14,900 --> 01:05:15,900
We just do it.

721
01:05:15,900 --> 01:05:20,900
If we did it annually, it might just hurt only a little bit less.

722
01:05:20,900 --> 01:05:23,900
But we've got to keep these funds whole.

723
01:05:23,900 --> 01:05:25,900
And this will responsibilities.

724
01:05:25,900 --> 01:05:29,900
Something that we all, we all agree.

725
01:05:30,900 --> 01:05:32,900
Thank you.

726
01:05:32,900 --> 01:05:33,900
Thank you.

727
01:05:33,900 --> 01:05:34,900
I agree with Councilwoman Morales.

728
01:05:34,900 --> 01:05:37,900
So we know you guys do a great job with your outreach.

729
01:05:37,900 --> 01:05:41,900
But you are going to be offering like a low income program.

730
01:05:41,900 --> 01:05:45,900
There is, there is a low income program with for ecology.

731
01:05:45,900 --> 01:05:54,900
And we more recently at the recommendation of local task force increased outreach through social media, the bill inserts.

732
01:05:54,900 --> 01:05:59,900
And so we love to partner more with the cities and the county to increase.

733
01:05:59,900 --> 01:06:04,900
At this time, we've seen a study increase in the participation.

734
01:06:04,900 --> 01:06:09,900
But in my opinion, there's a lot of room for improvement.

735
01:06:09,900 --> 01:06:17,900
For example, just at this time, we have 800 participants in the low income compared to 2021, which was at 339.

736
01:06:17,900 --> 01:06:18,900
That's really good.

737
01:06:18,900 --> 01:06:19,900
So yeah, that's promising.

738
01:06:19,900 --> 01:06:20,900
Again, no matter.

739
01:06:20,900 --> 01:06:21,900
Yeah, we have to pair bills.

740
01:06:21,900 --> 01:06:24,900
But like, some people kind of forward to pay the bills.

741
01:06:24,900 --> 01:06:27,900
So even though we want to go, like, that's always something.

742
01:06:27,900 --> 01:06:29,900
I'm just going to invite you guys to keep the money.

743
01:06:29,900 --> 01:06:31,900
Couple of Morales just hit that element ahead.

744
01:06:31,900 --> 01:06:33,900
Like, let's do outreach.

745
01:06:33,900 --> 01:06:34,900
Especially that population.

746
01:06:34,900 --> 01:06:37,900
I think they do a little bit more outreach.

747
01:06:37,900 --> 01:06:40,900
They're not, you know, the older people that are on a fixed income.

748
01:06:40,900 --> 01:06:45,900
You know, they're not as, I don't know, as involved with acknowledging

749
01:06:45,900 --> 01:06:46,900
those bills.

750
01:06:46,900 --> 01:06:47,900
It's really helpful.

751
01:06:47,900 --> 01:06:48,900
So that's great news.

752
01:06:48,900 --> 01:06:49,900
So you guys can just keep that in mind.

753
01:06:49,900 --> 01:06:52,900
Keep pushing that forward because things are getting more costly out there.

754
01:06:52,900 --> 01:06:55,900
So thank you guys for that.

755
01:06:55,900 --> 01:06:56,900
Thank you.

756
01:06:56,900 --> 01:06:57,900
Thank you.

757
01:06:57,900 --> 01:07:01,900
I agree with many of the sentiments of my colleagues up here.

758
01:07:01,900 --> 01:07:05,900
And some of the thank you so much for your continuous work.

759
01:07:05,900 --> 01:07:07,900
Also your colleagues back there.

760
01:07:07,900 --> 01:07:12,900
And yes, so further forward to covering more events with you.

761
01:07:12,900 --> 01:07:17,900
And please, if you need anything from us, just slide.

762
01:07:17,900 --> 01:07:20,900
Thank you.

763
01:07:20,900 --> 01:07:22,900
Anything else?

764
01:07:22,900 --> 01:07:23,900
Oh, yeah.

765
01:07:23,900 --> 01:07:24,900
Okay.

766
01:07:24,900 --> 01:07:26,900
So instead of most of your groups this item.

767
01:07:26,900 --> 01:07:28,900
I will move to a group this item.

768
01:07:28,900 --> 01:07:29,900
Matter of ice.

769
01:07:29,900 --> 01:07:30,900
Can I get a second?

770
01:07:30,900 --> 01:07:31,900
Oh, second.

771
01:07:31,900 --> 01:07:33,900
All those in favor.

772
01:07:33,900 --> 01:07:34,900
All right.

773
01:07:34,900 --> 01:07:35,900
Any opposed?

774
01:07:36,900 --> 01:07:39,900
All right.

775
01:07:39,900 --> 01:07:43,900
And now we're moving on to committee assignments.

776
01:07:43,900 --> 01:07:46,900
Does anybody have anything to report?

777
01:07:46,900 --> 01:07:49,900
Go ahead.

778
01:07:49,900 --> 01:07:54,900
Just we had an obviously July was off.

779
01:07:54,900 --> 01:07:58,900
But I just want to remind our refresh for integrated waste management.

780
01:07:58,900 --> 01:08:04,900
We are looking at the RFE and we will have meetings to discuss the review and

781
01:08:04,900 --> 01:08:05,900
recommendations.

782
01:08:05,900 --> 01:08:08,900
I believe our senior managers part of that.

783
01:08:08,900 --> 01:08:12,900
I was selected to be part of that process as well.

784
01:08:12,900 --> 01:08:14,900
And we should have a complete fine.

785
01:08:14,900 --> 01:08:18,900
November.

786
01:08:18,900 --> 01:08:19,900
Marguer.

787
01:08:19,900 --> 01:08:20,900
Everything okay?

788
01:08:20,900 --> 01:08:21,900
Yeah.

789
01:08:21,900 --> 01:08:23,900
Okay.

790
01:08:23,900 --> 01:08:25,900
Nice.

791
01:08:25,900 --> 01:08:26,900
Thank you.

792
01:08:26,900 --> 01:08:27,900
Thank you.

793
01:08:27,900 --> 01:08:28,900
Can't deliver.

794
01:08:28,900 --> 01:08:29,900
No.

795
01:08:29,900 --> 01:08:31,900
Nothing to report.

796
01:08:32,900 --> 01:08:33,900
No.

797
01:08:33,900 --> 01:08:34,900
Okay.

798
01:08:34,900 --> 01:08:35,900
I myself have nothing to report.

799
01:08:35,900 --> 01:08:38,900
July is usually a recess for everybody.

800
01:08:38,900 --> 01:08:42,900
So those committee assignments should be put on hold.

801
01:08:42,900 --> 01:08:46,900
And as we prepare to go into the next half of the year.

802
01:08:46,900 --> 01:08:47,900
Okay.

803
01:08:47,900 --> 01:08:48,900
So.

804
01:08:48,900 --> 01:08:49,900
Okay.

805
01:08:49,900 --> 01:08:50,900
So.

806
01:08:50,900 --> 01:08:51,900
So.

807
01:08:51,900 --> 01:08:52,900
So.

808
01:08:52,900 --> 01:08:53,900
So.

809
01:08:53,900 --> 01:08:54,900
So.

810
01:08:54,900 --> 01:08:55,900
So.

811
01:08:55,900 --> 01:08:56,900
So.

812
01:08:56,900 --> 01:08:57,900
So.

813
01:08:57,900 --> 01:08:58,900
So.

814
01:08:58,900 --> 01:08:59,900
So.

815
01:08:59,900 --> 01:09:00,900
So.

816
01:09:00,900 --> 01:09:01,900
So.

817
01:09:01,900 --> 01:09:02,900
So I'm not going to say.

818
01:09:02,900 --> 01:09:03,900
So.

819
01:09:03,900 --> 01:09:15,900
Oh.

820
01:09:15,900 --> 01:09:16,900
So.

821
01:09:16,900 --> 01:09:17,900
So.

822
01:09:17,900 --> 01:09:18,900
Yeah.

823
01:09:18,900 --> 01:09:19,900
So.

824
01:09:19,900 --> 01:09:20,900
So.

825
01:09:20,900 --> 01:09:21,900
So.

826
01:09:21,900 --> 01:09:25,900
So.

827
01:09:25,900 --> 01:09:26,900
Oh.

828
01:09:26,900 --> 01:09:32,740
of utilities. I work private public. So I actually have experienced work for some of the largest

829
01:09:32,740 --> 01:09:38,100
companies in the world. I'm really excited to come here and have an amazing vision and I'm excited

830
01:09:38,100 --> 01:09:46,740
to be part of it. So I'm excited to be working to work for us. Thank you. And Mr. White is taking the lead

831
01:09:46,740 --> 01:09:52,580
on our response to the water board. We have, as you may recall, in order to survive a nation,

832
01:09:52,580 --> 01:10:00,420
we send information. They send us more questions. Mr. White and his team are working on a response.

833
01:10:00,980 --> 01:10:07,140
And we will go from there. We already had some very interesting discussions about some of our partners

834
01:10:07,700 --> 01:10:12,660
and some of the expectations that we will be having of them in the future if they want to continue

835
01:10:12,660 --> 01:10:21,540
being our partners. As far as meetings with our water collaborators, we have meetings with

836
01:10:21,540 --> 01:10:27,860
sunny slope. And also with the county's water district in which both of us are going to attend

837
01:10:27,860 --> 01:10:35,780
need their governance body. We already went by sunny slope and met Mr. Lander. We have not gone to the

838
01:10:35,780 --> 01:10:42,580
district just yet. But we are beginning to build our village. Our utilities need a village. We cannot

839
01:10:42,660 --> 01:10:49,940
do this alone. And we're beginning to talk to other entities as well. People know,

840
01:10:50,580 --> 01:10:55,380
other firms know of our challenges and they are being very proactive in reaching out to us to see

841
01:10:55,380 --> 01:11:01,860
how they can be part of the solution. So very happy in that regard. Moving on to incentives, I'm actually

842
01:11:01,860 --> 01:11:11,620
going to let Ms. Noelle Mink speak on some of these measures. Yes, we proud to work for

843
01:11:11,620 --> 01:11:17,060
incentives and we've had five people respond. So right now, Stephanie Brown, I can hear familiar with.

844
01:11:17,060 --> 01:11:21,220
And I are meeting with those five employees and giving them a lot of information about what it will

845
01:11:21,220 --> 01:11:27,060
look like for them. And then they have approximately two weeks to give us the solid date. They have to meet

846
01:11:27,620 --> 01:11:34,100
Chairman, our retirement date. And then we'll process and move those forward. I anticipate at least four.

847
01:11:34,820 --> 01:11:39,540
Potentially five. We had five people request information and asked to be considered

848
01:11:39,540 --> 01:11:44,980
at everyone's position as you meet. So we're just taking our time with them, taking care of meeting

849
01:11:44,980 --> 01:11:49,060
with them, making sure they have all the information that they need. It's a big decision. And

850
01:11:49,060 --> 01:11:55,220
an normal circumstances, right? People's retirement is a big deal. And now with this, it's even more

851
01:11:55,220 --> 01:12:03,940
careful consideration. So more to come in there. So we, as we present to the council, we

852
01:12:03,940 --> 01:12:10,820
our approach was to first incentivize for those who had enough years in the city. It was not mandatory.

853
01:12:10,820 --> 01:12:15,220
It was completely optional. People made their own personal decisions, whether or not they wanted to take

854
01:12:15,220 --> 01:12:22,660
advantage of the incentive. I mean, the realities that folks that are retirement age, chances are that

855
01:12:22,660 --> 01:12:28,260
they have low longevity here in the city. So regardless of layers, it's highly unlikely they will not be touched.

856
01:12:29,220 --> 01:12:35,860
For MOUs, we have to always go with the most junior. So the folks at the top stay in the top

857
01:12:35,860 --> 01:12:43,140
side of the bottom, the folks at the bottom have to go. And so we wish more people would have taken it.

858
01:12:43,140 --> 01:12:50,020
But that's what it is. And so the council had indicated that we could use up to $300,000 for those incentive.

859
01:12:50,020 --> 01:12:55,060
So the remaining, we will use as we begin separating individuals from the city.

860
01:12:56,020 --> 01:13:05,220
Historical holoster RFP. On your on the desk, on the dyes, you will see a draft, a draft that we

861
01:13:05,220 --> 01:13:13,860
are ready to release, probably soon, which is for us requesting partners that would want to either

862
01:13:13,860 --> 01:13:26,340
a service promoters of the next historical holoster A, A, B, or B as the C for support. So that they can

863
01:13:27,780 --> 01:13:37,060
execute the event. One of the key differences between this and our original bike rally is that this is a

864
01:13:37,060 --> 01:13:43,860
four-day event. So as I mentioned to some of you during the event, my business appointment was

865
01:13:43,860 --> 01:13:53,540
that we didn't have 30,000 people, 40,000 people. A lot goes into the planning. A lot of money spent on this

866
01:13:53,540 --> 01:14:02,020
event in success is attached to the number of folks that come. The more, the better. I have shared with you

867
01:14:02,020 --> 01:14:08,340
some of my thoughts about some other events that take place in the Pacific, and I took all three states,

868
01:14:08,340 --> 01:14:14,820
because to a certain degree, I think we are very similar. And I gave you information on events. There are two

869
01:14:14,820 --> 01:14:22,740
day long in the type of guests, the number of guests that they attract, and it's hundreds and hundreds, thousands and thousands,

870
01:14:22,980 --> 01:14:32,100
and also for the events. So, we are also asking for responses for an event that will be taking place

871
01:14:32,100 --> 01:14:41,140
in 2028. There are two reasons for that. Number one, we need time to really prepare an event that is going to

872
01:14:41,140 --> 01:14:48,660
attract just for the sake of putting a goal out there, 30,000 people. To do that, we need time. Number two,

873
01:14:48,740 --> 01:14:55,300
it is highly unlikely that there will be any money in the budget for the next fiscal year. So,

874
01:14:55,300 --> 01:14:59,940
we are not saying abandon this approach. Why the opposite? We're leaning into it.

875
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:08,000
One more of it, but we're also saying let's do this right. Let's make sure that we can capitalize this to the highest degree.

876
01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:14,000
So if it takes a little longer, it gives us a breather as far as the financial commitment.

877
01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:24,000
And so that's the information that I had with you regarding the RFP. And last but not least, we have given you the first report,

878
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:39,000
or what will be an ongoing report to you all. So if you go to the very end of the agenda packet, you will see that we have given you all the public's requests that we received in the month of June.

879
01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:49,000
We will be doing this every month, so that we can see, for example, the Nicholas Berlinson requested information and the description is there.

880
01:15:49,000 --> 01:16:18,000
Mark Surrada, Pierre Molen, Wol Park, several Wol Park is very busy. Timothy Vaughn, Wol Park again, David Mendoza, Alyssa Leeds, Sarah Jackson, Jojo Matthew, Chris Chris, Jerry and Christina Gutierrez, Adam, and the list goes on. So this gives you a sense, this gives the public a sense of what type of information is being requested.

881
01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:29,000
We don't hide things in the city, hiding takes effort, and we're too busy for that. So this is a way of saying, folks, we're not hiding anything, here it is.

882
01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:40,000
This is also inefficient, so council member Shay, since you like efficiencies. For example, we have a number of folks that are requesting information from the permitted department.

883
01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:55,000
One has to ask, do you really need to submit a public request request for that? Why can you just go over there and get in get it? The reason for it was, Gianna, this is the only way that we can get any information from the old community development department.

884
01:16:55,000 --> 01:17:22,000
What we're saying is, that was then this is now, you don't need a puree, but don't take my word for it, let's make it happen. So we are working on how we link information. Right now, you can go there's the other mystery is all the secret contracts that the city manager has, well, all of our contracts are in our transparency portal. You can see not only the contracts for this year, but the ones going back to, I don't even know the beginning of times.

885
01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:43,000
Everything is done in the open, we just haven't had the technology to show it, but now we do. Nothing is being done in some dark alley in the middle of the night, everything is done according to the systems that we have in the policies that we have in anybody can see it.

886
01:17:43,000 --> 01:18:10,000
Thank you. Okay, so let's circle back to a couple of points that you just made. You've got direction for the 300,000 given sentence. Where do you assume that your direction is to use that money to lay people off? Was that in the language that was adopted, the direction from the council that you were given? How do you make that assumption? You went from giving incentives to employees to you're going to use it to fire them, essentially that's what I heard.

887
01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:23,000
I'm actually councilmember, you make a very good observation. The MOUs that the union entered into do not have any language, providing any serents package to any of the laypeople.

888
01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:32,000
I'm talking about the direction you got from the council for the 300,000, but that's a major chance. Let's just slow down a little bit.

889
01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:38,000
Okay. And remember, you, as a city manager, get direction from the council.

890
01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:48,000
Correct. Number two, you essentially said the bike arally is not going to happen until 2028 did you not just say that?

891
01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:56,000
That is correct. Okay. So you, speaking of not hiding things, I don't see the bike arally on the agenda.

892
01:18:56,000 --> 01:19:13,000
I'm a city of holster residents voted almost 70% to have a bike arally. What was the direction from this council on not having a bike arally till 2028? How did you make that?

893
01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:19,000
That's what is being proposed, but that's why by me, which is why you gave you that direction.

894
01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:27,000
That's, this is my report to you. Okay. You don't make that decision. I'm not making that decision, sir. This is why we're giving it to you.

895
01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:37,000
So we're giving it decision. No decision has been made. My role is to report, which is what I'm doing. I am not making decisions.

896
01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:45,000
Okay. It is the council who gets to decide whether or not you want to release an RFP, whether or not you want to have a rally, whether or not you want four days.

897
01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:55,000
Right. Just reminding you of that, because that's not what I've heard, and I, I just want to slow down and make sure we're following the process.

898
01:19:55,000 --> 01:20:01,000
If you would like to have a study session, which would be great to discuss this RFP, then let's have it.

899
01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:13,000
I think there's an ad hoc committee, the most appropriate thing to do, would be to flesh this out, because this is an RFP that was

900
01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:28,000
The on the on chat GPT, I know channel GPT, this is a chat GPT RFP that you're proposing for us not to have bike rally till 2028. That is something very contentious, not only with our staff here.

901
01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:38,000
We know that, but with the public, and you do not get to make that decision that there's no bike rally, and this is my interpretation until 2028.

902
01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:46,000
Correct. I'm letting you know that in the budget for 2027, it is not our intention to allocate those funds.

903
01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:50,000
That's my proposal to the council. The council can say no.

904
01:20:50,000 --> 01:21:01,000
Exactly. So if you're a people, my point is this, Mr. Curtis, the people who want the bike rally need to have it properly agenda is.

905
01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:08,000
They need to have a discussion with all of us up here who make that decision.

906
01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:09,000
That's fine.

907
01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:19,000
That's what concerns me about what I just heard. That's all. That to me is like,

908
01:21:19,000 --> 01:21:22,000
Why would you like to agenda is it?

909
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:27,000
Number one, I think it should go through that ad hoc committee.

910
01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:38,000
So if we can have a conversation about this RFP and about what the future of the bike rally would like like, I think it should go through that ad hoc committee.

911
01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:40,000
Can I get a vote from the council?

912
01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:45,000
No, excuse me. I'm still talking.

913
01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:56,000
Number two, then I would recommend that like we do with all ad hoc committees, we bring it back to the council and we ask for consensus to move forward.

914
01:21:56,000 --> 01:22:05,000
Number three, this council gives you direction on what is going to happen with that bike rally.

915
01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:12,000
So can I have a direction from the council, please? I'm here in direction from one member of the council.

916
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:18,000
What, what excuse me? Do I not have a right as an ad hoc committee member?

917
01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:23,000
I have a meeting with you to talk about the bike rally.

918
01:22:23,000 --> 01:22:29,000
The future of the bike rally to talk about how the bike rally went.

919
01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:32,000
Is it down with the mayor? Am I missing something here?

920
01:22:32,000 --> 01:22:35,000
Yes, you want to agenda is decided.

921
01:22:35,000 --> 01:22:40,000
So I'm asking for the right to ask the ad hoc committee to bring that back forward.

922
01:22:40,000 --> 01:22:42,000
The question is the agenda is in the agenda.

923
01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:45,000
Can you chime in, please?

924
01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:05,000
Can you chime in, please?

925
01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:07,000
In writing, correct.

926
01:23:07,000 --> 01:23:10,000
Correct.

927
01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:11,000
Correct.

928
01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:16,000
And about my recommendation to bring it to the ad hoc committee.

929
01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:21,000
Thank you.

930
01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:22,000
Thank you.

931
01:23:22,000 --> 01:23:24,000
That's really good.

932
01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:26,000
Wonderful.

933
01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:27,000
Thank you.

934
01:23:27,000 --> 01:23:30,000
Okay. I will leave it at that.

935
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:31,000
Okay.

936
01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:35,000
Okay. So we need an approval from the council.

937
01:23:35,000 --> 01:23:37,000
Is this no.

938
01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:39,000
Okay.

939
01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:41,000
All right.

940
01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:42,000
Is that all?

941
01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:43,000
That's it.

942
01:23:43,000 --> 01:23:44,000
Okay.

943
01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:45,000
Thank you.

944
01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:46,000
Question.

945
01:23:46,000 --> 01:23:47,000
Is there comments?

946
01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:49,000
Can I start?

947
01:23:49,000 --> 01:23:50,000
All right.

948
01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:51,000
Well, thank you.

949
01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:53,000
So now we're going to move into closed session.

950
01:23:53,000 --> 01:23:57,000
Does the committee attorney to red-close session?

951
01:23:57,000 --> 01:23:59,000
Item sleep.

952
01:23:59,000 --> 01:24:01,000
One of the safeouts.

953
01:24:01,000 --> 01:24:04,000
To the committee.

954
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:06,000
This is for the executive.

955
01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:08,000
I have four.

956
01:24:08,000 --> 01:24:10,000
A.

957
01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:12,000
A.

958
01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:15,000
The executive.

959
01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:16,000
A.

960
01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:18,000
Deputy executive.

961
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:19,000
A.

962
01:24:19,000 --> 01:24:36,000
Thank you, City Attorney, City Court, do we have any public comments on the site?

963
01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:38,000
Any of these items?

964
01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:39,000
No, guys, Mayor.

965
01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:40,000
Thank you.

966
01:24:40,000 --> 01:24:41,000
Thank you.

967
01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:44,000
So now, right, meeting's adjourned?

968
01:24:44,000 --> 01:24:45,000
Thank you, everybody.

969
01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:47,000
Jennifer, if you could just hold on a sec.

970
01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:49,000
I did you want to have any here?

971
01:24:49,000 --> 01:24:51,000
I could set up that room too.

972
01:24:59,000 --> 01:25:01,000
Okay, Jennifer, you could stay on this.

973
01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:18,000
Thank you.

974
01:25:18,000 --> 01:25:19,000
Thank you.