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I don't think we have a big agenda, but I know a lot to discuss. So, we can, let's see, Omar, you, I did, that's what I was about to do. I was going to ask Omar if he can do the pledge. Omar, you might do the pledge.

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pledge allegiance to the likes of the United States of America and to the new power, or which is

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stand one nation under God, individual, with liberty and justice for all.

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So this is the time for, so item number four.

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Oh, no, I'm sorry.

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Roll call vote.

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Commissioner's Rosa.

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your logo, Rickett, Rhea, and Chair Hernandez.

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Here.

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Thank you.

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So item number four is public input.

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So this is the time for anyone in the audience to speak on any item not on the agenda.

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And within the subject matter jurisdiction of the commission,

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speaker cards available in the lobby are to be completed and given to staff before speaking.

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Once that calls your name, please come to the podium, state your name and city for the record and speak to the commission.

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I'll just leave it at that. So do we have any speakers?

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So item number five on to the commission business.

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So the June 17 regular meeting minutes are we adopting these minutes for?

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So if we can, did anybody get the meeting minutes?

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Did you get a test to read them, any questions?

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I would like to get a copy of the minutes.

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I haven't had any.

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I did, yes.

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I'm still.

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Jeff, if we can.

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I'd like to get a copy of the minutes, but I mean, I'm all still obviously going to the motion

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to see.

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Looking at the minutes are in the agenda package that's on your computer.

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Yeah, no, I'm just saying because I had some IT issues I haven't gotten into that in

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Oh, and I appreciate that. My point is normally I get them ahead of time so I can read them so I know what I'm approving right because the minutes are specifically so that you can know what the agenda, the minutes were in the agenda package that I emailed out last week.

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Like I said, I didn't get it.

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No, unfortunately.

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Do you want to hard to talk to your hard to talk to someone?

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So, but I'm willing to make a motion, obviously, for those that were able to get that email and read it.

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So, does anybody have any questions?

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I make a motion to move the minutes from last week.

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Can I get a second, please?

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All those in favor?

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Hi.

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Oh, hi.

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All of the things is because I have a red,

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but it's still a four, one, so would be a pass.

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So item five, two, discussion of the 2026 Hollister Independence

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And so we have a staff report on that chair and so the staff report is going to drive the discussion.

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We want to stay limited to the items that the staff report drills down on.

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So we are looking so a couple things. Number one,

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we want you all to know that we had Leah Cauldron from the C-Manager's Office,

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who was also the lay is on.

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Can you put your mic on please?

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It's on.

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Leah Cauldron, the city manager office,

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Leah's on, that had gone down and coordinated with a lot of the downtown businesses.

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I'm asked her to send out the Business Advisory Commission agenda to and do kind of contact them.

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So it's a little bit surprising that we don't have more members of our business community.

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Did you get that bill?

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Yeah, I asked for that last week at the same time as you guys all got the agenda on Friday last week.

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So that being said, so we are looking to have just a brief discussion of the current,

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what your perception was of the current rally that was held on July 3rd and for it.

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and then we will move into the city is looking at potentially issuing a

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request for proposal for some partnership of how future rallies might go

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together so that is actually attached as part of the staff report to you guys on

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this item so we were to review that and if we had any specific suggestions to

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that then third we will be coming down to the city would like to see us add and I think

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this was backed up on social media we would like to add a family friendly component

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to the future route as consideration so we would be looking for suggestions I have some

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thoughts there's a map that is attached in the staff report where I think we can bring

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that map up on the monitors, we get to that item and we'll look in and talk about where I think the family friendly component could work

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and be kind of synergistic with the traditional rally footprint.

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multiple days beyond two and then we would like to you know I was hoping to have

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more of the local businesses in attendance so that we got more direct feedback

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from them on to how we could increase their engagement in in either the family

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friendly component or in the traditional rally component for future rally events

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Okay. That being said, please lead the discussion point number one. Okay. So the three points

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really quick if you can reference them again. Family friendly three days and there was one

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other one. Well, so the three points for future consideration are adding a family friendly

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component. Yeah. Expanding the duration of the event beyond two days and then improving

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local business engagement and participation. So right now what we're looking for is a brief

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statement from commissioners as to what was your perception of the 2026 rally which was held

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on July 3rd, the Friday, July 3rd, and then Friday, July 4th. Some businesses might have been

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impacted as well on Thursday because that was kind of a setup day. So with that chair,

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I'll just reference a little bit of my conversation with the city manager, but in general, the city wants to make this event better.

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What does that look like?

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These are kind of three starting points to gauge that.

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And I would love to hear feedback from the commissioners, from the Chamber, from the HTA, on their thoughts.

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Can we follow the format brief, brief point of view from each of you as the

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perception of the 2026 rally? Well, and then let's move to the next pieces so

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that each of you have a chance to have input. I appreciate that. All I'm saying is

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I want to give a little more context of that conversation because in general

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right, the thought was is what, how do we get more businesses engaged in the rally?

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my thoughts were is obviously you got to make it to where the businesses are

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seeing the benefit to their business but where you know my mention to the

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city manager was were you know kind of chiefs in our own little world we have a

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lot of you know heads or hats that we wear if there's a lot going on so to get a

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business owner to be part of something like this there it has to be a strong

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collaborative effort and ultimately obviously they see the overall benefit not

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not just to their business, but to their businesses countywide.

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And obviously, this is where the organization's also can play a big part.

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But then the other thoughts was definitely trying to make sure that this thing is a lot

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more to where the revenue ultimately not ultimately outweighs the cost, but at the same time increases

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potential benefits to the city coffers, right?

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That's kind of the overall gist.

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So I looked to open it up to see what you guys thoughts were and you know, I know that

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we'll piggyback off of each other as we go.

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So if you don't mind, I think you might want to speak first if we could try not to talk

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over each other, but in general, I'd like to open it up for sure.

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I'll go first.

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Unfortunately, due to medical unforeseen reasons, we had to close.

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So we were not open during the Bicaragely this year.

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Having a family-oriented component to the rally is something that's very incisive to us,

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something that I think the community would respond well to.

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I think that that helps provide a solid marketing approach to the bike rally.

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In regards to extending it to three or four days of a rally, I can in good faith, honestly,

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make a suggestion for that, considering the finances of the overall

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FICORALY. We don't know how much it costs us, how much it brought in, and

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extending that without knowing the finances is a discussion that I don't

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think I can make a legit suggestion towards.

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Awesome.

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Yeah, I can make a couple of comments. I think people I've talked to in general

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about the event and my own kind of perception is it's relatively narrow in terms of its

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If you're an avid motorcycle rider or part of a club, like you see it is an event that you're

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expensive for you to attend if you're not, then you don't see what's in it for you and

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people tend not to go.

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or you're bringing in a car show component or there's lots of ideas we could brainstorm

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But people, a broader set of people need to see this event as something that they would like to or make sense for them to participate in.

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And then I think on the business side, we probably need to think of ways that we get businesses who are near the center of a cubic, but not necessarily right in the middle of it to feel more a part of it.

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And maybe there's something we can do, I'm just thinking of things that I've seen in the past that have worked where as part of your ticket, you're getting discount sign items or you're getting a free item in a particular business because you need to get something that gets them in the door at a business.

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Once they're in the door, they're going to buy other stuff.

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I think most businesses, hopper bros, the business, I'm a part of, wasn't part of downtown yet, but hopefully we'll be next year.

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Please stay on schedule.

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And, you know, I could see us saying, okay, we're going to offer some item at a, you know, significant discount order for free.

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And then you get people in and you can sell them more.

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So, and if that was somehow publicized as part of the event, where I see, okay, here are the businesses, here's what I get if I go there.

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And it puts it, you know, I now have the attention of the attendee versus otherwise they might not be any attention to our business.

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So anyway, those are just a couple of thoughts.

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So for me, I think what really sealed the deal was that I was at the fireworks booth and people were asking me, is there a rally this year?

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And to me, that was what kind of threw me off because I was like, it's happening as we speak.

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It's July 3rd, it's going on right now.

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Like, really?

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So that's what, to me, was kind of caught my eye, because we were people I safely buying firewoods for firewoods for me,

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and they were asking us if there was a rally this year.

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So people, I think, didn't know that something was happening.

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So there's this perception that maybe the marketing wasn't as strong.

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It wasn't really rolled out the way we wanted it to roll out.

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I know there was commercials that I heard, or somebody was mentioning that, but I just felt like we dropped the ball on the marketing aspect of this, within our own community and outside of the community as well.

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And the other part of it too is I came down twice for different, on different days for different things. And I know the size trees were just...

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It's completely dead. Where in San Marios Street, of course, you had everybody kind of doing their thing and writing around, you have people there. But the site streets, businesses, like there was no activity, nothing there to really draw people to those sites of things. So it was kind of like, why did we shut that area down? And the only other component to it was the vendors themselves. It felt like if you went to one stall, you pretty much saw all the other stalls.

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that was nothing unique about stall one versus stall two versus stall three so

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I mean once you did that it's like well why am I even walking to the next one

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to and do that if I can get everything in one place so those are just some

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of the thoughts that I saw from my experience that I saw there but I think the

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marketing was the main thing that I just don't think it was promoted as well as

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we had hoped yeah and I just want to add a couple of things to piggyback off of

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what Omar said. Yeah, the marketing we too as the chamber, we had a booth and days

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leading up prior to we were asked multiple times if the rally was happening. They didn't

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see any marketing. So I think a stronger approach. If to say we were going to have a rally next

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year, I think it would have been safe to say that we have our marketing package in plan now.

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And we start getting that out to all of our businesses with the plan of what we're going

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do for next year if that's what we're going to do. Usually when you have an event or any type of

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scale deal, like as far as the type event that we have, usually the day or two days after you

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have, you reconvene and you say, hey, what did we do? What could we have done better and then invite

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the business community as well to be a part of the conversation. So that way they can put in some of

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the challenges that they faced and something that they feel that could have been done differently.

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and I think if we make that a collaborative effort with our businesses and

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appropriate our businesses in the planning process, I think that would be a huge

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success to everybody involved because at the end of the day I feel you know

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we are a community, we're a smaller community, so we can all work collaboratively

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and really kind of pick out what's going to work for our community, that

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necessarily we're not surges, we're standing at our counties, but there's no

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reason why we can't have a successful event. But again, starting early in the

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marketing process, really getting that down, do we have the dates? Do we have a

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promoter? Who's the go to? Who can we, who can we, for our businesses to, if they

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have questions, our marketing material? Who can be responsible to get that out?

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Are we doing, are we doing outside marketing in different counties? Are we

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collaborating with different counties and their chambers and their downtown

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town associations? Are we getting that information locally around us? So I think, you know, time

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to plan for a future event, but I think we could do a lot better in that avenue of area

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and using our umbrella of visit California to even tie that in as far as tourism goes.

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As far as extending the days, I do have a couple of comments on extending the days. I had a couple

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of conversations with a couple of businesses and the fact that we're having it for two days,

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you know, one of the concerns is they are planning for an event and so therefore they're having to buy, you know, whether it's extra liquor, food, staff, and permitting and all of that.

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So when they calculate all of that for two days, the profit isn't as, you know, as large as they would like to see.

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So I, in my opinion, of course, understandably we haven't seen financials, but I think as

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far as if we had, you know, a three-day event like we used to have in the past, which

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was Friday, Saturday, Sunday, everything has to be cleaned up by Monday.

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I even think if it's four days, it's too much for our community, that's very understandable.

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Then we can do three, but I think right now some of the business, for example, the bars

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and restaurants, they're preparing and spending that amount of funds, but at the same time it's

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not long enough for them to be able to regenerate and get those profits back. So I think that would

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be an area for us to really consider extending it to be able to make it profitable for our businesses

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downtown. And then too, absolutely we need a family-friendly approach to this as well. You know

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know, other conversations that I've had about, you know, partnering with, you know, local

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the chamber.

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I mean, utilizing some of our members, us taking that portion on or hopefully, you know,

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helping assist with, you know, some of our members with the faith, team team and bounce

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houses and all of that.

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And I really think, you know, expanding and really making it a family-friendly is where

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we're going to get people to come as a parent myself.

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there was you know I have I have little so you know being able to to feel that

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I think it's super important and more entertainment I'd like to add using our

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side streets for stages and entertainment would be great awesome yes Steve yeah

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I just have one other comment I think part of it me is also who are you marketing

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too because I think there's multiple groups that you could go after is our goal

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to increase the out of town participation, get, you know, more thousands of cyclists to come in,

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or is it broader community interest and attendance? Because I think those could be quite different

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in terms of how you would go about it and what would attract them. One example would be if you had

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a headliner music crew that the cyclist saw really into, that would probably really get their attention

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and bring a lot more of the men.

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You could market the heck out of that.

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Might not appeal to a lot of local community.

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May or may not.

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But so it's, what's our goal?

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Is our goals are really increase that?

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You know, get a couple of thousand more cyclists in here.

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Or is it to get broader community interest involvement?

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Because they don't know that those two necessarily,

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the things as you would do and how you attract them

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and market them would be the same.

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One of our commission has just shown up.

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Oh, just for being late, I was in a devastating motorcycle accident.

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First, I think it's the end of this massive storm.

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Oh, well, I'm glad you could make it here.

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Thank you.

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So we all kind of gave our take just to catch you up on the rally,

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the good, the bad and the ugly, like what do we think?

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How could it be better?

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And so everybody kind of gave their peace

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and some of the main points were, you know,

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it was a short event.

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There's no understanding of the revenue

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and ultimately what other benefits they could have brought

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with, like, more entertainment,

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not cookie-cuttering every booth

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that the rally brought by the promoter.

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Anyways, that's kind of some general just,

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but I know we're limited on time.

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Yeah, I love your thoughts on this, Peter.

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I have a degree in everything that the Civilian Management and the University of Madeloas

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Vegas.

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I have concepts and events between Las Vegas and Hawaii for the next decade or so.

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It will not bar at the age and I've been involved with it since 2002.

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I also go to motorcycle rallies because all of the vendors are the same vendors you see

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around there.

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There's not one rally in the United States, but there's only two days that it's successful.

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If you and I are in business and we're selling T-shirts and we just spent $50,000 on dated T-shirts

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drove 800 miles to get here and had $2500 in set-up permits these in order to build a tent.

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It would be hard for us to make our money back inside of just two days.

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So the problem that we have with making something like this profitable is the short duration in which

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you have all of these set-up fees and these things necessary for the event, but you don't have enough

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money to monetize it back for any of the vendors to be able to support any of the infrastructure

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that goes into making it happen.

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So when we do have King of the Baggers, the second King of the Baggers is the following

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week.

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And if we can turn it into a bite and eat, we could produce the powder keg effect of having

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so many people in one concentrated area just inside of two days.

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But if we hosted in open streets and only did like a farmer's bark and closed two days,

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You would see more vendor involvement, which would fund you for all of the policing that you need.

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We also, of all of the events we had, ironically there was a Monterey car show.

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They gave stats from it. There was over 135 tickets issued. There was 48 arrests.

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There was all these things just for the car show.

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We don't have the same problems there in the motorcycle community because they are relatively self-regulated.

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Having done security overseas for color brown and root, and having done security for this particular bar that I own now since 2002, we really had a security event that got really bad from 2002, 3-5-8-12-15-17 until I bought the bar.

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Most bikers, especially if they're in clubs, don't want to involve the rest of the club in a skirmish if I've got a problem with you.

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Why would we involve this whole big entity so they tend to be very self-regulating?

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And they're also at this age of the demographic that's showing up at this point.

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It's big family reunion. We get people that come in there that are there to see somebody that traveled across the country to be here.

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And so it's not the big scary thing that it's being kind of painted out to be a lot of

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that is really just honestly pure ignorance and for a guy who owns the epicenter of it and

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deals with all of that directly for the last 26 years.

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I would say that the concerns are largely unfounded for the amount of security that we have there.

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Given that what print of the farmers market stretched out to where the Hollister sign is,

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We could do this on a non-profit 501C3, already found one, and if we just had

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loads of London movie insurance, we could do a bit of quarter of the security, and

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just have a two-day shutdown of those areas. And also, when you go to places like

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Sturges and the Coney and Bike Week and everything, all the brick and mortar buildings

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that are there that don't have the ability to directly support those rallies,

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because maybe it's a hair salon or maybe they do nails or something like that. Most of

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just push their wares back about 16 feet, put up type of draping, use those

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storefronts to sell t-shirts to those vendors, thereby actually using the buildings

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themselves. And most of those places pay their rent for the entire year

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based on those things for safety charts, whatever they're worth.

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They rent from those buildings?

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Correct. And unlike the last part, instead of using those buildings as the world's most

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expensive backdrop for an event that's happening in front of those places,

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this is actually utilizing the buildings themselves and a lot of the buildings that

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haven't been rented to be able to use as space for those things anywhere you go

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whether it's churches or any of these other places they'll rent your building set

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up pipe and drain and rent that building out in a pretty bank. So any struggling

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businesses can capitalize off of that very easily. There could be a way I mean

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ultimately that was part of the conversation was how do we create a direct or

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indirect benefit so that more participation is a part of this technically

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be speaking by default, that means there's more support, right?

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That means, you know, without, yeah, trying to make it too much about the stuff that's

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on Facebook, about the rally, but technically it would help present a little bit of a positive

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face on the rally, right?

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It eliminates the need for extra infrastructure because your vendors are now utilizing and

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renting the existing buildings.

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It also gives the building owner and the building tenant the ability to present themselves

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to those people simultaneously.

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Most places, if you go into,

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in search of what have like a t-shirt place set up

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within another building,

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but then a little quarter of it over here

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is a kiosk that represents the store

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that you can visit.

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And I think some of the divide is the businesses are like,

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why do I want this rally?

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I'm not getting to that.

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Absolutely, unless you make it to where everybody wins,

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then you're all, it's set up to fail.

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Two days, blocking off businesses, set up to fail.

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If you include the businesses and give them

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the opportunity to host vendors within their place,

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and host themselves, and you extend it a little bit,

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then those vendors are not only going to utilize those spaces

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because they don't have to set up a tent.

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And we're not blocking anything.

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It doesn't require any infrastructure to do it.

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You're also giving some extra rent money

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to those beleaguered businesses that are suffering,

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just like everything up and down,

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so industry as ever, since we created the bypass.

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Yep.

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So we want to...

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Excellent.

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So that's excellent how we might look to try to increase local business engagement is through through utilization of the property front.

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I think that addresses some other items that I heard from other commissioners and during the rally from business owners was sometimes the city we got generators to help set up because we were looking at vendor tents.

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right so the vendors are using the existing brick and mortar space that's

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about to be to the business owners and that stops the tent and the generators

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having to be out in the city streets and blocking potentially view and so it

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might open the venue up a little bit too so it could be appeasing that way to

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considerably and all you have to do is go to any existing successful rally and

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look at how they're running it, most of them are using the footprint of the city itself,

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and then utilizing the fronts of those businesses so that you do not have to augment the flow,

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even if you fire trucks in and out of there, your state of flow traffic does not have to

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be then built on top of what's there, you're utilizing what's there, and all of those business

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owners get to capitalize on renting their space for those roles.

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So for time essence, then you presented a really good option for increasing business engagement.

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It sounds like you are in favor of expanding the duration of the event, and you're suggesting

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that there's ways to do it where we do it with a nonprofit that could get insurance

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to help with some of the technical sides, right?

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And once we do that in tie-its to King of the Baggers, you would have an Indian corporate and

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Harley Davidson corporate seat of the large corporate sponsors, Dunlop Tires, Mission, Tortilla

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Chiffs, and it will all come back in because then they get to promote their event, which is

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going to be coming up. And I know. And I just want to keep this because we're we're

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needing to move through other items and we want to give everybody a fair chance. So I appreciate

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you. You have some extra expertise. So I know I'm checking in with you real quick, adding a family

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friendly component to the rally. The map up here was put in the staffer.

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Discussion. Because I believe that there's a synergy if we look to do family friendly component on the

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McCray side. Whichever way we arrange for like security or whatever, it's very easy to extend

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over to McCray. It's within touching distance. We have a fire station at the very southeast corner

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of the traditional rally, which is a yellow highlight there.

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That's the traditional rally footprint from this year.

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And then the proposed potential area

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to utilize for the family friendly component

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would be the McCraight frontage over there.

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So you have a fire station right in between.

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So there's some nice synergy.

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And then for our officers, because we

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typically have a few of our officers leading the officer squads

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between the two then.

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So it would be close enough that it would not be a significant increase in terms of travel distance like we don't want to do a component of the rally out at the airport down here because it stretches us to thin unlimited resources.

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So on that, so you're taking on adding a family friendly component, easily done and I've got five different car clubs that would love to come and set up car shows.

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Plus cars and more riders and everything like that.

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They bring the event to you at no cost and you would have something there to show everybody and the car clubs themselves are very family friendly, very orientated towards, you know, having kids around and everything.

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And you've got all these dads and uncles around there

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that are very self-regulated.

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I think a big part of the public participation,

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I think is really important.

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Two things.

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One is, and I love Peter's comments.

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Technically, this is an ongoing conversation, right?

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So I know this is about the end of it, this is the start.

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But that means that there's so many pieces to,

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because this is its own business, technically, right?

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The whole rally weekend, because there's

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so many components to it.

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So bottom line is, I had mentioned to the city

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that it's a good idea that the business commission

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basically oversee the implementation of the process

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and technically, obviously, direct the ship.

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I would argue, and the other component

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is to try to basically get a stronger understanding,

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which I think Adam, I need a Christina alluded to,

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is, and I think even at Omar had mentioned it on one time,

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we really understand what the revenue generation potential is

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and be able to basically mention that,

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because we also got to be able to, it's like a budget,

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You've got a set of budget. What is it's going to cost but at the same time also set a potential revenue

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And what does that look like and how are we actually in this process take it sure that we're offsetting costs and even reducing costs for the city

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By creating a better rally. I firmly believe it can be done. I you know, I just know that the business community believes

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This is how we think but ultimately that's how you mess it up with the public the first things we need to do in order to be able to do

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We need to create a metric that goes from

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Julie

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28th to about July 12th to be able to figure out every year all of the

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businesses around the hotel's castations everything like that did we see an

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uptick and in years where we didn't like certain dirt and COVID or something

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like that how much loss of revenue was there if we can create a revenue then we

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can look at the taxable revenue generated by all the affected businesses and be

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able to say okay it costs us this much money to put it on but so many people

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visited here's your offset and and that's really what we're trying to do is

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is ring tourism here, and as a guy who lived in Las Vegas

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and the guy who lived in Maui, that was our business,

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it's supposed to ring tourism dollars there,

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and then everybody would make more money.

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So it's not just who's there within the confines of the rally.

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It's the entire town, and the entire town's ability,

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whether it's grocery source gas stations, hotels,

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ability to be able to put money in their coffers

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because an event has visited town.

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And if it's not good for all of us,

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it's not good for any of us.

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Yes, and I can share with you that the city does have a contract with the company.

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Can their lighter the ones they do sales tax tracking and we did do some work for tracking.

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And there was kind of a geo area set up for downtown.

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And I will just say because I can't divulge too much this lot of that is confidential information

436
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I can indicate to you that it was surprising that fourth quarter comparison year over year and to previous years, it's not as significant of a jump in terms of sales tax generating.

437
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:58,060
And I don't know that they got TOT tax yet, so TOT tax are still waiting for, I suspect TOT tax would show a bigger increase in terms of that fiscal quarter.

438
00:34:58,820 --> 00:35:07,380
And because we're all on motorcycles in this event, it would be like taking the revenue just generated in Sturgis downtown and saying that's how much money Sturgis makes.

439
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:11,520
Sturgis is a billion dollar event because everybody goes between three states.

440
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:17,080
They're they're driving around seeing the things. So really what we would need to do is take a look at

441
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:21,920
Monterey, Monterey and San Bernardino County, but mostly San Bernardino County because that's what we care about.

442
00:35:22,980 --> 00:35:29,240
What did we generate in San Bernardino County? From the gas stations that lead off of 101 to the wineries that are on

443
00:35:29,240 --> 00:35:33,740
San Bernardino. That's where you're going to see that if you get down to just one area

444
00:35:33,740 --> 00:35:39,720
it would be like taking the demographic and or the metric from from Sturgis just to the downtown area and seeing what it did.

445
00:35:39,720 --> 00:35:41,840
and it would be gross things later.

446
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,060
Yeah, I'm just saying tonight in terms of sales tax,

447
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:49,280
CY sales tax, as well as in within the due area

448
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,940
that we set up to try to capture more specifically

449
00:35:51,940 --> 00:35:56,080
the downtown kit was not as significant of a change

450
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:57,460
for that fiscal quarter.

451
00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:59,080
You're talking about this last year?

452
00:35:59,300 --> 00:36:00,620
What are the most important reasons?

453
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:02,740
Why any year, if you go back in,

454
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,620
you compare to a year where we didn't have it

455
00:36:04,620 --> 00:36:08,580
versus having the rally, it wasn't that significant

456
00:36:08,580 --> 00:36:09,260
of the job.

457
00:36:09,660 --> 00:36:09,820
Right.

458
00:36:09,940 --> 00:36:10,980
It isn't the way that we were doing.

459
00:36:11,100 --> 00:36:15,420
It was closing off streets and putting up tents and having them pay to set up tents rather

460
00:36:15,420 --> 00:36:19,620
than having them utilize the buildings that are downtown that are otherwise sequester blockaded

461
00:36:19,620 --> 00:36:20,260
for that event.

462
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:26,260
Some of your tenants may cash in hand.

463
00:36:26,380 --> 00:36:29,640
Some of them may claim the money that they made when they rented their storefront.

464
00:36:30,180 --> 00:36:32,780
But I can tell you for a very good reason.

465
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,820
If you look at Sturges and the amount of money that that town is people to bring in, the

466
00:36:36,820 --> 00:36:41,460
one week rally that it is. It is their most significant money maker in the entire year.

467
00:36:42,020 --> 00:36:47,720
We've granted it's a larger rally, but we have 1.3 billion registered motorcycles within

468
00:36:47,720 --> 00:36:51,380
a day's ride of where we're at right now. We have all these beautiful hills and things

469
00:36:51,380 --> 00:36:56,580
like that to ride. We've just underutilized our hand in trying to educate the public on

470
00:36:56,580 --> 00:36:59,940
all the great places, wineries and things like that, then there aren't you going to happen.

471
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:23,720
So I think, so I think the idea of the city looking to propose that we would go out to request for proposal use the opportunity for some of these creative ideas like a non-profit organization to come in and to take it or partner so that it can incorporate more of these types of efforts, right?

472
00:37:23,720 --> 00:37:32,560
Well, I think we all can agree that marketing was fairly limited this year for whatever reason, but I think

473
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:39,140
you know, we should be fair Jeff, and when you talk about security or you talk about any of the other components,

474
00:37:40,020 --> 00:37:44,640
we obviously were behind the eight ball and getting those engagements.

475
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:49,640
Security is an example of needs to be engaged with a contract

476
00:37:50,740 --> 00:37:56,260
back in January, February timeframe, because when you want higher, higher-level

477
00:37:56,260 --> 00:38:04,420
quality people at being there to be your security presence, they are all making decisions

478
00:38:04,420 --> 00:38:08,800
where they're going to spend their time for what events they're going to cover.

479
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:14,020
They're signing up in February, March, so if you haven't engaged in a commitment

480
00:38:14,020 --> 00:38:18,760
in a contract, you're not going to get the higher end,

481
00:38:18,860 --> 00:38:20,160
you're going to get the leftovers.

482
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:24,020
And it is a tough order to fill, because you're asking police

483
00:38:24,020 --> 00:38:25,980
officers who we're already dealing with,

484
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,140
somebody blew their finger off, the dog ran away

485
00:38:29,140 --> 00:38:29,920
with a bottle of rockets.

486
00:38:30,420 --> 00:38:31,920
All that stuff is already happening

487
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:33,380
anyway on the floor until I weekend.

488
00:38:33,740 --> 00:38:35,060
And then it's also a federal holiday

489
00:38:35,060 --> 00:38:37,240
and that you're also tasking and with doing this

490
00:38:37,240 --> 00:38:40,840
in the same time that's certainly been a lot

491
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,600
for law enforcement to deal with on any given

492
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:48,600
holiday where people are literally playing with fire and by the way we want you to make a sit

493
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:54,780
around. And if we continue the model of the security I think if we engage sooner and we can kind

494
00:38:54,780 --> 00:39:02,980
of count on a little better quality of the type of security guard we get on inside the event

495
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:11,660
that you can make certain reductions in the number that needs to be within the footprint.

496
00:39:11,660 --> 00:39:15,280
We could have gone with a tensly amount of security if we had well-trained.

497
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,920
The one more thing I think along with the family friendly lines.

498
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,000
I don't know if anybody has seen Peter Argo's video.

499
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:27,340
The story of basically how the rally got started.

500
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,260
You know, the wild ones I barged are right all this.

501
00:39:31,580 --> 00:39:33,760
It's like a branding effect, right?

502
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:35,700
Because I know that's been part of the county conversation.

503
00:39:35,940 --> 00:39:36,940
What is Sam and you know county?

504
00:39:37,340 --> 00:39:37,680
Why?

505
00:39:38,140 --> 00:39:40,040
What makes this unique and different?

506
00:39:40,980 --> 00:39:43,600
I firmly believe the rally is a big part of the history, right?

507
00:39:43,940 --> 00:39:47,540
Ending the World War II, these soldiers coming back from war, they're the ones in New

508
00:39:47,540 --> 00:39:49,320
Hunter, how to fix easily in motorcycles.

509
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:54,780
My point is it can easily tie in, I believe, to the family-friendly component, making it

510
00:39:54,780 --> 00:39:59,260
a lot more of an nostalgic and, you know, to a certain extent, a lot more of an endearing

511
00:39:59,860 --> 00:40:04,500
type of a rally versus it being all about people getting drunk and riding more cycles.

512
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:09,220
But it has, it would be less than that, it would be more, I think, appealing and then ultimately

513
00:40:09,220 --> 00:40:14,080
really with that brand, then you're tying other things to that, the family-friendly

514
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:19,140
components that obviously giants with it. So, I just think it's really important. That's

515
00:40:19,140 --> 00:40:23,580
why this conversation has to be pretty like ongoing. You know, I don't know if we're going

516
00:40:23,580 --> 00:40:28,060
to have this conversation every agenda, but I think it's going to be important. As pieces

517
00:40:28,060 --> 00:40:33,760
start to come by, and I think I agree with Christina, the marketing needs to start now, right?

518
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:35,660
We already start to need to put these pieces at place.

519
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,200
We also have a great deal of resources.

520
00:40:41,100 --> 00:40:46,300
So one of the things that I'm about to send to you right now is, in 2019, we threw our

521
00:40:46,300 --> 00:40:52,780
rally and we had filmmakers come from six different, you know, rust brown motorcycles,

522
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:54,780
attorneys, and unmotires, all that stuff.

523
00:40:55,100 --> 00:41:00,480
And we have a video called Hall of Starts All About The Rock, and it goes into, not the specific

524
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:05,160
history, as I've made four different videos that cover our history and why it's important,

525
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:14,160
which is, it is a dying history because it's a baby bloomer history, if you ask anybody under 40, they're not as well connected to it, as we with parents who were, you know, involved in that directed work.

526
00:41:14,720 --> 00:41:19,080
But we made a video, a series of videos in 2019 called Hollister, it's all about the ride.

527
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:26,260
And it literally talks about all the great places that there are going simply, the county, all the cool things that there are, see why it's important to be here.

528
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:31,820
Those resources are standing by and available because they would all love to do sponsorships and have their name everywhere.

529
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:38,660
There's several that I work with as I used to do TV and film and everything like that before I bought the bar.

530
00:41:39,720 --> 00:41:44,560
And I made a couple of videos into the voiceover work on it just to help keep the production cost down.

531
00:41:44,700 --> 00:41:46,280
And I can do that very easily again.

532
00:41:46,820 --> 00:41:49,420
So we have need of advertising and stuff.

533
00:41:49,460 --> 00:41:52,720
I can get started on it just as soon as we have an agreement going to contract.

534
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:55,200
Good start.

535
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:56,000
Yeah.

536
00:42:02,300 --> 00:42:09,220
I would like to know, would it be less expensive to do the rally at a different time frame

537
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:14,460
than the Fourth of July week because you talked about federal holiday, you talked about

538
00:42:14,460 --> 00:42:17,780
all the different things that we have to do during that week, you have all these people

539
00:42:17,780 --> 00:42:20,880
running around trying to find who blew their hand off and all that stuff.

540
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:25,900
If you looked at a different date, would it make more sense in terms of the costs?

541
00:42:26,240 --> 00:42:29,200
Would it be cheaper if we did something else that wouldn't involve a holiday weekend?

542
00:42:30,340 --> 00:42:34,280
Those are just thoughts that I have on that side because you said we're already kind of limited

543
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:39,260
in resources and what we're doing, what if we didn't do it when we're limited in those resources?

544
00:42:40,860 --> 00:42:45,380
We did discuss that and I actually brought it up with motorcycle clubs.

545
00:42:45,380 --> 00:42:53,840
I brought it up with my Corbin, Ray Catello, you need to have everybody to have the day

546
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:55,480
off in order to get them to show up.

547
00:42:57,020 --> 00:43:02,540
So yes, it makes a very good point that we wouldn't be paying federal holiday and Davis

548
00:43:02,540 --> 00:43:05,980
making wages to officers that are already beleaguered with a bunch of other things that

549
00:43:05,980 --> 00:43:09,640
they have to do on top of this and then making double time and a half and everything certainly

550
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:18,980
represents a not very cost effective way to police and event. But at the same time, do

551
00:43:18,980 --> 00:43:23,640
weekend before the weekend after you're not going to have people with the availability

552
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:28,700
to do this. So a lot of time, but it's a three-day weekend for them. We can get writers

553
00:43:28,700 --> 00:43:34,860
from Texas can come in because they have the whole weekend off, so they'll set aside time

554
00:43:34,860 --> 00:43:38,900
on 4th of July weekend to come. So if you draw a circle from from where

555
00:43:38,900 --> 00:43:43,080
Hollister is to what I see literally come into the bar and it's kind of nice

556
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,880
because afterwards I could be stickers you know I was here and they'll

557
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:50,240
say where it was from and everything like that. We literally have from if you draw

558
00:43:50,240 --> 00:43:56,680
a line from from the midpoint of the country to where we're at right now we do

559
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,800
get people that come all the way from there. We've got a guy that came in from Florida

560
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:28,400
But primarily if people have the time they have this face to be able to show up to our rally, it's because they had the weekend off anyway, and moving it off of that rally would be an offense to the people who follow the tradition of the history which is freedom veterans who came and helped us when World War II, or some early kicked out of town because they were a little rough around the edges undike that's beating the PTSD we have for them it's the tradition of honoring those veterans.

561
00:44:28,900 --> 00:44:35,000
So, I got HALS from the people that I tried to convince, well, what if I moved it off

562
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:35,240
there?

563
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,980
They said, well, we're going to show up on 4th of July anyway, because that's our holiday.

564
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:43,640
And if you want to do it on another, you know, after that, we'll see how many people show

565
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:43,940
up.

566
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:48,340
But again, it becomes down to you, it's a federal holiday, so you have more availability of

567
00:44:48,340 --> 00:44:52,880
those guys who write motorcycles, which are usually a demographic of people that are still

568
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:54,440
working, but get the weekend off.

569
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:59,500
So, it's a great opportunity to have them in their availability, and of course the

570
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:08,780
Is you pay a lot more for the same police officer on that particular day and it's much more frustrating for that individual because he's dealing with a lot of things anyway.

571
00:45:10,670 --> 00:45:14,430
It's awesome. Any more thoughts?

572
00:45:14,710 --> 00:45:15,330
Jeff, what was your name?

573
00:45:17,780 --> 00:45:22,680
First name, last name, and then that culture.ca.jl.

574
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,440
So we are done with that.

575
00:45:26,900 --> 00:45:27,940
So Jeff, just really quick.

576
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:29,720
When are we gonna bring this item back?

577
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:36,520
Well, I think we have enough to report some feedback

578
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:42,400
right to the city manager and or council.

579
00:45:42,780 --> 00:45:49,520
We can say what I would like to be able to say is do we have a vote for a recommendation

580
00:45:49,520 --> 00:46:00,940
that we investigate issuing RFP as a city, and do we include these items like a family-friendly component?

581
00:46:01,540 --> 00:46:08,700
To explore that and really put some emphasis behind that, do we look to expand the duration?

582
00:46:08,700 --> 00:46:12,340
I think the current version of the draft RFP said for 40s.

583
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:17,560
Oh, I think we should accept proposals being three more days.

584
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:25,960
You know, I think on the improving local business engagement,

585
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:29,600
I like the idea of trying to utilize the storefronts,

586
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:32,440
but that seems obviously you have to have willing,

587
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:39,740
participate in both of those things that we're going to want to do that right so so that we take a

588
00:46:39,740 --> 00:46:48,600
concerted earlier effort. So I would say a recommendation that I heard taken sense that kind of

589
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:55,580
stuff would be is that we would engage with the business community sooner on on particularly the

590
00:46:55,580 --> 00:47:01,880
downtown board or businesses we need sooner engagement try to get it by ending to the concept of what

591
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:07,520
they could do, choose to participate or choose to rent out the storefront, if you will,

592
00:47:07,820 --> 00:47:09,240
and see without leads.

593
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:14,900
We talked about, obviously, the vendor mix needs to be different and you spill out

594
00:47:14,900 --> 00:47:15,600
more marketing.

595
00:47:16,300 --> 00:47:22,420
So I think we've got a good foundation for some recommendations, and then what I would

596
00:47:22,420 --> 00:47:28,960
suggest is that we report that out, right, the commission money through the staff, we report

597
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:33,200
that back out to city council and our city manager.

598
00:47:34,580 --> 00:47:43,760
So I mean I before we entertain a motion can we do public comment yeah so all

599
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:47,540
that said can we is there anybody in the public that would like to comment on

600
00:47:47,540 --> 00:47:52,800
this item. Yeah from Bill's book and I'll make

601
00:47:56,390 --> 00:47:58,730
it perfect. I'm not anti-arali but

602
00:47:58,730 --> 00:48:02,870
Jeff's comment to start off the meeting was a hurtful, all right, when we get notified

603
00:48:02,870 --> 00:48:07,430
one day in advance about the meeting about this, that's why there's nobody here. People

604
00:48:07,430 --> 00:48:12,230
can't drop the ball and come here one day in advance. The same thing happened two days before

605
00:48:12,230 --> 00:48:17,250
the rally started. I think Peter's in the room, Benito leaks in the room, I don't know anybody

606
00:48:17,250 --> 00:48:23,270
else over the room when the city decided to have a meeting about how the planning of the traffic

607
00:48:23,270 --> 00:48:28,030
and what's going to be impacted two days before the event. So I don't mind having a party

608
00:48:28,030 --> 00:48:33,070
and having a rally in all this, but the planning for a person who's in business 365 days

609
00:48:33,070 --> 00:48:37,050
out of the year, we get kind of treated like an evil stepchild or somebody who's not

610
00:48:37,050 --> 00:48:41,850
really good at it. We need more better planning. At the meeting there's a lot of questions

611
00:48:41,850 --> 00:48:44,890
about whether or not this was here. A lady at the hair salon says, I'm open on Friday.

612
00:48:45,090 --> 00:48:48,490
How am I going to get my clients? Is this part going to be open? A lot of answers went

613
00:48:48,990 --> 00:48:53,790
unanswered. Karate studios said, you have to go pick up your kids' troop box and wait for

614
00:48:53,790 --> 00:48:56,590
the event. We didn't know this was going to happen on Friday. They're going to close the

615
00:48:56,590 --> 00:49:01,390
street on Thursday. So I get all this stuff and it probably makes money great for everybody.

616
00:49:01,550 --> 00:49:05,550
If we have to close our business, which we don't, we stay open and fight through the blockade

617
00:49:05,550 --> 00:49:10,790
on East Street and then it went around. I would announce the business by area and I asked

618
00:49:10,790 --> 00:49:16,270
who made money who didn't. One bright example is great is that things on East Street down

619
00:49:16,270 --> 00:49:21,290
closed early Saturday, his other restaurant on Main Street made a lot of money. That's great.

620
00:49:21,450 --> 00:49:25,510
I'm all favorite making money. But we need better organization. I'm trying to be a business

621
00:49:25,510 --> 00:49:28,310
so we're going to be treated like somebody on the side.

622
00:49:28,970 --> 00:49:31,670
The point of matter is that you've got to have planning,

623
00:49:32,090 --> 00:49:32,930
you've got to make it happen.

624
00:49:33,070 --> 00:49:35,410
Don't forget about the people who are in the area

625
00:49:35,410 --> 00:49:37,930
of the rally who are impacted, all right?

626
00:49:38,130 --> 00:49:39,450
Because all these things are great.

627
00:49:39,990 --> 00:49:40,790
I haven't heard any numbers.

628
00:49:40,970 --> 00:49:42,590
Do we make money pretty this year?

629
00:49:42,850 --> 00:49:44,370
We heard $200,000 loss.

630
00:49:44,510 --> 00:49:46,230
I don't mean having a party and losing money,

631
00:49:46,330 --> 00:49:48,710
but garbage rates are going up 60%.

632
00:49:48,710 --> 00:49:50,750
Our water rates went up 30%.

633
00:49:50,750 --> 00:49:51,990
I don't mind losing money.

634
00:49:52,130 --> 00:49:53,990
But as a taxpayer, I want to make sure

635
00:49:53,990 --> 00:49:55,950
that we're using the money in the right way.

636
00:49:56,350 --> 00:49:56,810
That's all.

637
00:49:57,270 --> 00:49:58,810
And at Peter and everybody else comes together,

638
00:49:58,930 --> 00:49:59,610
it has a great plan.

639
00:49:59,650 --> 00:50:00,730
I had no problem with it.

640
00:50:01,110 --> 00:50:02,510
But we have to look at the big picture and find out

641
00:50:02,510 --> 00:50:03,190
what we're doing.

642
00:50:03,650 --> 00:50:06,350
And as a business owner, I don't feel like we're being treated right.

643
00:50:07,130 --> 00:50:09,170
And Jeff, I don't know if the airport is

644
00:50:09,170 --> 00:50:12,370
a viable liability for having an event out there or not.

645
00:50:12,830 --> 00:50:14,670
Sturgis, like Peter said, I've been to Sturgis

646
00:50:14,670 --> 00:50:16,290
one time, not as a participant.

647
00:50:16,610 --> 00:50:18,570
But they have an event center outside the perimeter,

648
00:50:18,810 --> 00:50:19,430
all over the place.

649
00:50:19,990 --> 00:50:20,430
I don't know.

650
00:50:20,530 --> 00:50:22,270
We had a lot of park 40 years ago, it didn't work

651
00:50:22,270 --> 00:50:23,210
because it knows where it is.

652
00:50:23,210 --> 00:50:28,370
We have an airport is that a viable option? I don't know, but in the meantime we're here to make money

653
00:50:28,370 --> 00:50:33,030
It's a promoter's making money than great no problem. I want to make sure my store is protected at night

654
00:50:33,030 --> 00:50:38,310
That's all I want to make sure but the blockade on East Street and the free flow of traffic affects our business

655
00:50:38,310 --> 00:50:40,770
And we're notified that to close the street, you know

656
00:50:40,770 --> 00:50:45,490
20 brothers prior to and then there's garbage that's left over and I had to clean up

657
00:50:45,490 --> 00:50:46,350
It's all the little things

658
00:50:46,350 --> 00:50:50,970
But I just want to make sure that the people know that we are here all the time for Hollister

659
00:50:51,410 --> 00:50:54,950
All right, I'm not anti rally, but just make sure you don't forget us, that's all.

660
00:50:55,410 --> 00:50:58,550
And as a business owner, some of you are a business owner, so that's all.

661
00:50:58,630 --> 00:51:03,250
Just want to be sure we did that because you're comment about nobody here tonight as a business owner.

662
00:51:03,770 --> 00:51:09,210
One day notice for an email and the same thing happen when we want to do the fun about how the rally went.

663
00:51:10,030 --> 00:51:11,490
One day notice, that's why the movie is here.

664
00:51:11,870 --> 00:51:14,810
I think, thank you, Bill, and you bring up some very good points.

665
00:51:14,810 --> 00:51:21,350
But one of the things that we had within the first two years of this was our promoter went

666
00:51:21,350 --> 00:51:26,450
from the lead guy who was going to do the architectural as to how it was going to go down

667
00:51:26,450 --> 00:51:31,990
to him just being basically a consultant and the city in the midst of trying to do a lot

668
00:51:31,990 --> 00:51:38,630
of forensic accounting which was taking up the majority of their time, tossed this off

669
00:51:38,630 --> 00:51:41,350
along to an individual and set, figured out.

670
00:51:42,010 --> 00:51:43,730
And he did a great job.

671
00:51:45,830 --> 00:51:51,330
A lot of the, you know, ad hoc or lack of direction

672
00:51:52,250 --> 00:51:55,030
as it turns to informing all of the business owners

673
00:51:55,030 --> 00:51:55,850
and everything like that,

674
00:51:56,230 --> 00:51:59,450
we should be able to avoid this coming year.

675
00:52:00,210 --> 00:52:02,730
If I'm involved with it as I hope to be,

676
00:52:03,090 --> 00:52:05,030
we're gonna try and see if we can include

677
00:52:05,030 --> 00:52:07,290
each one of the businesses with regard

678
00:52:07,290 --> 00:52:11,490
to access to your business, how it affects your business, whether or not you want to be involved

679
00:52:11,490 --> 00:52:17,230
with the rally in some capacity and making sure that you have access there in. What we did

680
00:52:17,230 --> 00:52:23,830
in the last rally was okay we've got a footprint okay this is what's going to work and then of course

681
00:52:23,830 --> 00:52:29,230
you've got in government you've got any number of agencies that have to sign off and approve on it so

682
00:52:29,230 --> 00:52:34,150
you can't present anything until fire and police and everybody else has been able to sign off okay

683
00:52:36,290 --> 00:52:42,930
We'll do the best we can to hire that out ahead of time and be able to let everybody know how it would affect everybody.

684
00:52:43,230 --> 00:52:51,330
Provided we even are able to do a rally, but I know that if I've involved with it, I know for certain that what's good for my neighbors is ultimately good for me.

685
00:52:51,410 --> 00:52:53,310
And if it's not good for them, it's not going to be good for me.

686
00:52:53,870 --> 00:53:02,750
I'm not a politician. I'm just hearing an advisory thing as a business or myself, and I would not want to do anything that harms anybody up or down my street.

687
00:53:02,750 --> 00:53:08,770
And in fact, my goal is to try and make it good for everybody in the entire town or not to do it.

688
00:53:08,770 --> 00:53:11,490
So, typically, just,

689
00:53:11,650 --> 00:53:17,110
procedurally, we don't respond directly to comments and chair.

690
00:53:17,950 --> 00:53:21,650
I mean, I still think what Peter said is very valid.

691
00:53:22,130 --> 00:53:22,450
Sure.

692
00:53:23,030 --> 00:53:23,170
Yeah.

693
00:53:23,990 --> 00:53:26,790
To what I'd like to recommend right now is,

694
00:53:26,790 --> 00:53:29,310
we have a commission that needs to leave.

695
00:53:35,270 --> 00:53:36,410
Thank you so much.

696
00:53:36,630 --> 00:53:37,430
Thank you so much.

697
00:53:37,470 --> 00:53:37,990
Thank you so much.

698
00:53:38,090 --> 00:53:39,650
So yeah, I mean just to close it down.

699
00:53:39,790 --> 00:53:42,730
I mean, ultimately it sounds like we just need a planning process.

700
00:53:42,750 --> 00:53:45,510
If I could be added to when we bring this back.

701
00:53:45,950 --> 00:53:51,010
That planning process obviously is we need to somehow build up.

702
00:53:51,190 --> 00:53:52,130
An email.

703
00:53:52,470 --> 00:53:54,010
Email this or some.

704
00:53:54,230 --> 00:53:56,370
Yeah, some way of basically presenting out that information.

705
00:53:56,510 --> 00:53:57,970
The business community is aware of it.

706
00:53:57,970 --> 00:53:58,330
So there.

707
00:53:58,330 --> 00:54:01,190
And there were a little bit in advance, right?

708
00:54:01,350 --> 00:54:03,770
When you say something, I think on the city side,

709
00:54:04,010 --> 00:54:07,050
you know, again, I spoke to the fact that we need

710
00:54:07,050 --> 00:54:09,770
to make certain commitments earlier,

711
00:54:10,190 --> 00:54:14,270
because the result of not making the earlier commitments

712
00:54:14,270 --> 00:54:17,890
is the lack of time to engage properly.

713
00:54:18,150 --> 00:54:18,270
Right.

714
00:54:18,650 --> 00:54:20,670
So, I mean, you guys got a throw in the back.

715
00:54:20,730 --> 00:54:25,710
I feel like that the comments we just heard are validation

716
00:54:25,710 --> 00:54:30,710
that we did not make our commitments to conduct the rally

717
00:54:30,710 --> 00:54:33,410
and the necessary commitments and the different facets

718
00:54:33,410 --> 00:54:36,730
of it soon enough to have the proper engagement.

719
00:54:37,210 --> 00:54:41,810
So I appreciate businesses that are here and represented

720
00:54:42,530 --> 00:54:46,010
and so it was good public comment to hear.

721
00:54:46,710 --> 00:54:49,930
I think I've heard that and seen that in social media

722
00:54:49,930 --> 00:54:53,670
as a common thing for others in the downtown quarter.

723
00:54:53,670 --> 00:55:00,190
So yeah, I'm happy that we've at least had one person that could make it in the talk to us so I mean

724
00:55:00,190 --> 00:55:05,330
I'd like to finish the conversation with making a recommendation to bring this back as an official rally committee

725
00:55:05,330 --> 00:55:12,230
Or part of the agenda for it to be part of the our process our purview as a commission. We don't create committees

726
00:55:12,230 --> 00:55:12,550
Well

727
00:55:14,690 --> 00:55:18,710
And so at this point, we would be making certain

728
00:55:19,970 --> 00:55:20,930
recommendations here

729
00:55:20,930 --> 00:55:27,490
I think back to the city and then what we need to see is is the city council going to

730
00:55:28,190 --> 00:55:33,870
what is their direction around the rally and then look to say okay would you

731
00:55:33,870 --> 00:55:39,230
like us to bring an item back would you like maybe maybe we use this

732
00:55:39,230 --> 00:55:46,270
commission to that are a piece maybe we so we look at can we get a roll but

733
00:55:46,270 --> 00:55:50,810
that direction at this point we've fulfilled what our preview is which is

734
00:55:50,810 --> 00:55:52,950
to take feedback and give suggestions.

735
00:55:53,550 --> 00:55:56,010
I think we've been very complete in that,

736
00:55:56,170 --> 00:55:58,610
and I'm sure we could spend a lot more time.

737
00:55:59,230 --> 00:56:00,590
Could we make a part of our agenda,

738
00:56:00,730 --> 00:56:04,490
every meeting that we have to have back and forth

739
00:56:04,490 --> 00:56:06,010
with the business owners as it relates

740
00:56:06,010 --> 00:56:09,350
to where we are with the rally and get feedback,

741
00:56:09,650 --> 00:56:12,510
but also disseminate the any progress

742
00:56:12,510 --> 00:56:13,710
that's being made on its own.

743
00:56:13,710 --> 00:56:14,870
Anything's going to be considered.

744
00:56:15,710 --> 00:56:19,070
What I just want to say is that we have

745
00:56:19,070 --> 00:56:21,370
I've fulfilled our purview at this point.

746
00:56:22,130 --> 00:56:23,850
It's now in the hands of the council

747
00:56:23,850 --> 00:56:25,850
to receive those recommendations

748
00:56:26,290 --> 00:56:29,550
and kind of give us the direction next.

749
00:56:29,870 --> 00:56:34,450
Now they say to, yes, we want to continue with the rally.

750
00:56:34,570 --> 00:56:36,430
We want to increase the engagement.

751
00:56:37,190 --> 00:56:40,710
Then maybe that comes back as a standing report out item

752
00:56:40,710 --> 00:56:42,650
here in this budget, okay.

753
00:56:43,410 --> 00:56:47,650
So, and we can also call special meetings.

754
00:56:47,650 --> 00:56:54,490
We don't we're not just limited to quarterly. So if we're getting to critical times around certain

755
00:56:55,310 --> 00:57:01,710
Myel stones that we should be achieving in this we've been certainly talk about and getting on a special meet

756
00:57:02,650 --> 00:57:05,410
So so to be clear as the chair

757
00:57:05,410 --> 00:57:12,410
I want to make a recommendation to make it a standing item to bring because here to think we need to have clarity from them

758
00:57:12,410 --> 00:57:13,970
from the commission, right?

759
00:57:14,450 --> 00:57:17,310
Granted, right, advisory, I agree, Jeff, we're not

760
00:57:17,870 --> 00:57:22,230
legislative, but we can give a consistent message to the council,

761
00:57:22,230 --> 00:57:26,190
and I would argue that is, you know, with, you know,

762
00:57:26,310 --> 00:57:29,670
with the commission vote, that we want to make this a standing item

763
00:57:30,630 --> 00:57:35,150
at, you know, and ultimately, we are directly involved

764
00:57:35,150 --> 00:57:38,650
over the planning process of the rally into next year.

765
00:57:38,930 --> 00:57:41,550
Certainly, there is a section in our agenda

766
00:57:41,550 --> 00:57:49,310
for staff and commission reports so I can provide updates from the city side on on rally and then

767
00:57:49,310 --> 00:57:54,650
there's nothing's update I can certainly say well you don't you don't have anything just yet

768
00:57:54,650 --> 00:58:01,370
sure right so I can make it a standing item inside of that component for sure no I'm but what I'm

769
00:58:01,370 --> 00:58:07,870
asking is for the us to actually have a vote to ask the city council to basically make this part of

770
00:58:07,870 --> 00:58:11,490
are objectives as a commission?

771
00:58:12,450 --> 00:58:17,610
Well, we're not going to always have a staff report in the actual items where we're

772
00:58:17,610 --> 00:58:23,910
taking that what I'm saying is so there's not necessarily an actual item that we'd

773
00:58:23,910 --> 00:58:25,370
be making recommendation on.

774
00:58:26,130 --> 00:58:35,330
So again, what we can commit to is understaffing commission reports that we are giving you guys

775
00:58:35,330 --> 00:58:40,730
feedback as to where and what the latest city thoughts are on on the direction of the

776
00:58:40,730 --> 00:58:48,130
process. We can look for opportunities. We can make suggestions to the council that as

777
00:58:48,130 --> 00:58:53,010
they're thinking about ad hoc committees and other things from minding them that we have

778
00:58:53,010 --> 00:58:56,690
great expertise here in this commission too.

779
00:58:57,850 --> 00:59:00,050
And it would be a good idea to decide whether or not to do that.

780
00:59:00,050 --> 00:59:04,770
Yeah, but I don't think Jeff is hearing me. That's why I'm asking for a vote of the commission

781
00:59:04,770 --> 00:59:07,830
to bring that forward as an official, I don't think I have the power to do that.

782
00:59:08,090 --> 00:59:11,570
Yeah, we're, it's an advisory vote, so we, so hear me out.

783
00:59:12,410 --> 00:59:18,570
As a commission, we have the right to make a consensus advisory recommendation, right?

784
00:59:18,690 --> 00:59:24,110
That's one message to the council that says we would like to recommend that you guys

785
00:59:24,110 --> 00:59:28,590
basically adopt this as part of our process to make it an official standing item.

786
00:59:29,310 --> 00:59:32,770
And I would argue, actually, because I actually just have this conversation.

787
00:59:32,770 --> 00:59:44,890
Which I think he said that we would, but it's obviously dependent on how hands on the actual city council is with this item and whether or not they have anything to do with the rally to the staff.

788
00:59:45,230 --> 00:59:52,630
I'm hearing from the council that if you guys want to take a quick vote for majority, we can include it under one or two things.

789
00:59:52,630 --> 00:59:59,350
It won't always be an item like tonight where it's an actual item and it's an engaged discussion.

790
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:06,220
It's with collecting recommendations to report on. It can be part of the staff and commission

791
01:00:06,220 --> 01:00:11,420
reports so that I'm reporting back so you guys have the status and we can have a little

792
01:00:11,420 --> 01:00:18,280
bit of interaction there as to let's consider bringing in another actionable item that

793
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:24,760
we can make. No, yes, it's going to die for lack of effort. I'm just saying it's not consistent.

794
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:31,280
And to have you at the intermediary jet of this body ultimately all that means is it slows

795
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:34,980
down the potential results right and technically speaking the other recommendation.

796
01:00:35,180 --> 01:00:39,980
I know this does actually have this conversation with a city council member is we really should

797
01:00:39,980 --> 01:00:41,540
be having monthly meetings if we're serious.

798
01:00:41,900 --> 01:00:46,660
If we really are serious orderly is just not effective there's no way like we need to stick

799
01:00:46,660 --> 01:00:53,840
to the topic yeah but consistent with that that's my point making it a standing item asking

800
01:00:53,840 --> 01:01:00,260
the city council, because the other reality is them being a legislative body, they're

801
01:01:00,260 --> 01:01:04,280
overseeing the bigger picture over everything under them, including the committee.

802
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:09,820
That's why our job is to implement the will of the city council and ultimately that.

803
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:15,240
I think I have addressed a staff that is supporting and administers this commission.

804
01:01:16,020 --> 01:01:22,120
I've said that we can have it on each agenda, it may not be an actual item, but it will be covered

805
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:27,880
under staff and commissioners. So we can work based on it every time. So I agree with you.

806
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:36,480
I'm hearing the chair and I'm saying that we can have it in one or two as we go forward in each

807
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:42,480
week and build that will allow us to try and keep you and all the other business owners up to date on

808
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:48,320
anything that's going on with the rally rally progress and how it might affect things as we know.

809
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:51,460
and of course you can ask us any questions that we can head forward off to the City Council

810
01:01:51,460 --> 01:01:53,140
so your concerns are heard.

811
01:01:55,580 --> 01:01:59,300
The City Council will hear a brief staff report.

812
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:03,860
They're not going to get into the weeds that's technically our job and there's not that

813
01:02:03,860 --> 01:02:08,460
intent for us to make it a standing item and by default that means it might or it might

814
01:02:08,460 --> 01:02:12,220
not come back which means there's going to be a loss of translation and all I'm saying

815
01:02:12,220 --> 01:02:13,180
is just for my experience.

816
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:14,540
Things die.

817
01:02:14,540 --> 01:02:19,320
I am also up for it, doing this more often so that I can try to be more patient than

818
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:21,420
If we're going to take this here, it's not that that's different.

819
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:25,080
But yeah, I'm hopeful it's that if it's a bit.

820
01:02:26,220 --> 01:02:26,800
It is.

821
01:02:27,140 --> 01:02:28,620
It's just a same.

822
01:02:29,100 --> 01:02:32,560
Do we all agree, City Council, can you please make the Sustainable Item?

823
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:36,680
You want us to be in charge of overseeing the implementation of this into this next year?

824
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:43,300
Again, the City Council has there on per view in what they do and don't do and they create

825
01:02:44,100 --> 01:02:45,240
I know I know they're not.

826
01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:46,240
They're not.

827
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:46,960
So.

828
01:02:48,180 --> 01:02:50,140
And advisory just means we're telling.

829
01:02:50,380 --> 01:02:52,460
We're telling what we think they can say now.

830
01:02:52,860 --> 01:02:53,100
Yeah.

831
01:02:53,460 --> 01:02:55,760
So they could also be saying thank you for bringing this one.

832
01:02:56,020 --> 01:02:57,200
We didn't know that's your will.

833
01:02:57,600 --> 01:02:57,960
Right.

834
01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:00,700
And all I'm saying is technically I'm speaking already.

835
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:05,780
What I know to be true as far as speaking to council folks or individuals.

836
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:06,320
So.

837
01:03:07,460 --> 01:03:08,060
That's fine.

838
01:03:08,660 --> 01:03:12,020
Like I just want to make sure we don't get to be our credit quickness because

839
01:03:12,020 --> 01:03:13,740
is this is don't work well with your office?

840
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:15,180
I guess that's just a question.

841
01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:17,380
I think they're trying to understand correctly,

842
01:03:17,700 --> 01:03:20,580
the city council in terms of what happens

843
01:03:20,580 --> 01:03:23,140
with the rally going forward next year or so on,

844
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:26,060
they will be making decisions around,

845
01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:27,260
do we extend the duration?

846
01:03:27,260 --> 01:03:30,040
That type of thing that would come from them, correct?

847
01:03:30,820 --> 01:03:30,920
Right.

848
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:32,500
And so it's a good idea to mention.

849
01:03:32,660 --> 01:03:37,840
Yeah, but they look to us as the subject matter per say,

850
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:39,560
because we're giving it to the week that the date of,

851
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:40,660
why would you extend it?

852
01:03:40,700 --> 01:03:41,440
Here's the reason, right?

853
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:44,460
because we have these very thorough conversations.

854
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:46,980
If they see the rationale, then they're like,

855
01:03:47,140 --> 01:03:48,040
oh, that makes sense.

856
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:51,940
But if they give you, given that the advisory

857
01:03:51,940 --> 01:03:53,880
or the business commission wants to extend it,

858
01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:55,280
but we give you no reason behind it,

859
01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:57,780
they have a hundred other things on their plate, right?

860
01:03:57,840 --> 01:03:59,740
Some agenda items have tons of pages behind it.

861
01:03:59,780 --> 01:04:00,740
Yeah, my own account, my own.

862
01:04:00,900 --> 01:04:01,560
Right, that's over there.

863
01:04:02,180 --> 01:04:04,140
So we have a lot of detailed discussion here.

864
01:04:04,500 --> 01:04:06,800
They get the benefit of that through the minutes, right?

865
01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:07,380
Back to them.

866
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:08,440
We bring it forward to them.

867
01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:09,000
100%.

868
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:16,400
We staff will put together a staff report on the recommendations from the businesses by the commission.

869
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:23,020
So I will write to encapsulate as much of this in combination with the city clerk's office.

870
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:35,080
We will try to come up and make sure that we accurately as best we can to represent majority of what the majority said they want to include as the recommendation.

871
01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:49,700
If I just may add, if we wanted to do this accurately, I think I want to speak on behalf

872
01:04:49,700 --> 01:04:56,640
of the businesses, would it be fair to say, you know, can we, you know, at some point,

873
01:04:56,680 --> 01:05:00,880
can we bring this up to Council and say, you know, to best, you know, represent the business

874
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:07,640
community and how they feel about this and really sending an invite out to the

875
01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:10,700
business community and the businesses that participated before the July.

876
01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:15,860
Having them here, having them to be able to comment and say that I feel like we

877
01:05:15,860 --> 01:05:20,260
can really accurately represent the business community and then maybe we can

878
01:05:20,260 --> 01:05:23,960
leave it there and then have it coming back as you know under staff and

879
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:28,100
commission reports but I think I would feel more comfortable if we're going to

880
01:05:28,100 --> 01:05:32,080
represent the business community. I would like to see a little bit more of the

881
01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:36,900
businesses that participated at the rally to be able to be here to voice their

882
01:05:36,900 --> 01:05:40,840
opinions and comments to be able to accurately represent them and be able to

883
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:42,840
fully give that report to Jim.

884
01:05:43,100 --> 01:05:50,620
So Jeff, if you feel my bird is copying and putting anything in writing that

885
01:05:50,620 --> 01:05:54,540
invites the business owners, when I can walk a little better out of mine can

886
01:05:54,540 --> 01:05:59,360
to sing up and down the street and lighting each and every business owner to come to these meetings when they are

887
01:05:59,880 --> 01:06:05,400
a full week ahead of whenever they are if I could just get a stack of papers that I can hand out to says to some person.

888
01:06:05,500 --> 01:06:14,300
We could also send that out in our contacts as well. So we'd love to help participate to bring in the businesses because that's why we're here to support them.

889
01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:18,000
And I would really love to see more businesses here. So we can help.

890
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:24,480
I really would have a little capture thing down on the bottom of it that they can click on with their phone and then they would just get updates by text as to when they're going to do this.

891
01:06:24,540 --> 01:06:26,620
but I don't have to wear out the bottom of my shoes.

892
01:06:31,770 --> 01:06:32,090
OK.

893
01:06:32,910 --> 01:06:35,850
And I think one is, you know, the businesses

894
01:06:35,850 --> 01:06:40,890
should be mindful of the fact that the regular meanings

895
01:06:40,890 --> 01:06:43,870
of this commission body is quarterly.

896
01:06:44,390 --> 01:06:50,370
So the next meeting now, the theme of this number, OK.

897
01:06:51,070 --> 01:06:55,390
So it brings the second Wednesday of the day.

898
01:06:55,390 --> 01:07:00,070
Would we be able to change that monthly?

899
01:07:01,490 --> 01:07:02,210
We can.

900
01:07:02,470 --> 01:07:03,590
That's special meetings.

901
01:07:03,930 --> 01:07:07,430
We don't have to stick to the quarterly meeting in a month or two.

902
01:07:07,710 --> 01:07:07,890
Okay.

903
01:07:08,230 --> 01:07:16,830
And then I would also caution against making a standing item because then it's not, you know, the rally commission is designed advisory.

904
01:07:16,830 --> 01:07:19,710
You don't want to turn into a single subject commission.

905
01:07:20,190 --> 01:07:21,130
No, it wouldn't be that.

906
01:07:21,130 --> 01:07:31,350
That would be one idea for the next meeting and have a bigger discussion with the larger business community and see what you get out of that and then see if there's a need for it.

907
01:07:34,110 --> 01:07:50,070
My hope is that the business commission drives this conversation. There's plenty of professionalism on this table or on this diet to understand what it's going to take to make not just the rally but anything business successful.

908
01:07:51,110 --> 01:07:55,590
If we allow bureaucracy to get in the way, it's going to ultimately cause us to trip over

909
01:07:55,590 --> 01:07:57,290
ourselves and not get anything done.

910
01:07:57,510 --> 01:08:01,910
I know what it's like to be part of a monthly meeting, a monthly commission, or I know

911
01:08:01,910 --> 01:08:07,010
what it's part of, part of importantly, I can guarantee you, importantly, they die because

912
01:08:07,010 --> 01:08:12,450
you forget what the last two months even happened and there's so much detail to business.

913
01:08:13,290 --> 01:08:15,630
Just I mean, the rally is a perfect example of it.

914
01:08:15,630 --> 01:08:24,030
that it will die when it's so we're getting into different items. So if we want to bring it up, we're actually talking about specifically.

915
01:08:24,110 --> 01:08:26,990
Chair, I'm going to go out of my chair. I'm going to disagree with you.

916
01:08:27,970 --> 01:08:36,210
If we're talking about the number of meetings we need to have in the content and that stuff, that's separate from this item.

917
01:08:36,430 --> 01:08:45,010
We've had a good positive discussion. We've got lots of good interaction on this item. Can we close this up and then let's engage in that.

918
01:08:45,010 --> 01:08:51,210
All I'm saying is, like I said, I want to give my final point is I don't want to see business

919
01:08:51,210 --> 01:08:55,450
commissioners walk away from this commission. It will happen. I'm telling you it's going to happen.

920
01:08:56,010 --> 01:09:02,110
If there's not a seriousness about why where you begin. Businesses like Peter and Steve and Adam

921
01:09:02,110 --> 01:09:06,250
have a hundred or the hats that they're wearing. And they're not going to come back if they're not

922
01:09:06,250 --> 01:09:11,410
going to see proofs. They are hearing questions. Can we move that discussion to understanding

923
01:09:11,410 --> 01:09:14,390
I think mission reports and finish up with this item.

924
01:09:14,930 --> 01:09:16,490
You need to stay on our agenda.

925
01:09:16,870 --> 01:09:18,190
We have two quick questions.

926
01:09:18,650 --> 01:09:21,010
Is it possible to move into the agenda

927
01:09:21,010 --> 01:09:23,830
to have this discussion to where we can do these

928
01:09:23,830 --> 01:09:25,650
more frequently and do you have the panel with it?

929
01:09:26,090 --> 01:09:26,290
Yeah.

930
01:09:27,370 --> 01:09:27,550
Okay.

931
01:09:27,870 --> 01:09:29,170
The leader in the agenda.

932
01:09:29,430 --> 01:09:29,630
Perfect.

933
01:09:29,830 --> 01:09:30,570
Yeah, that moves a little bit.

934
01:09:30,670 --> 01:09:31,550
That's the leader in the agenda.

935
01:09:31,850 --> 01:09:33,050
We'll play that one for a vote.

936
01:09:33,190 --> 01:09:35,370
I'll make a recommendation at the end of the meeting.

937
01:09:35,890 --> 01:09:36,110
Thank you.

938
01:09:36,410 --> 01:09:41,390
So yeah, we're on to item number five.

939
01:09:41,410 --> 01:09:45,190
three discussed the downtown district and suggestions to make the downtown district

940
01:09:45,190 --> 01:09:50,110
a fall destination. There's a lot of details to this. I'm going to give a staff report on what that means.

941
01:09:50,570 --> 01:09:53,550
I'll give a couple of my thoughts, but ultimately I'll go ahead, Jeff.

942
01:09:54,350 --> 01:10:02,850
Well, just as the agenda breaks down here, the kind of leading thoughts that we had were like,

943
01:10:02,850 --> 01:10:08,770
Okay, downtown lighting could be improved, maybe something like

944
01:10:08,770 --> 01:10:15,290
incorporating bands or DJs and then maybe some themes for

945
01:10:15,850 --> 01:10:22,330
kind of our send video quarter as we move towards the call.

946
01:10:23,230 --> 01:10:26,210
And so that's kind of where we're listening to suggestions.

947
01:10:27,230 --> 01:10:31,330
Yeah, I have lots of ideas that I'm bummed out.

948
01:10:31,330 --> 01:10:36,730
Omar is not here. I would like to see what I've gotten back from community is that would be

949
01:10:36,730 --> 01:10:42,850
fantastic having our own version of like Christmas on the park for downtown. We have a great

950
01:10:42,850 --> 01:10:48,810
historic downtown and we need to really use that to our advantage. Incorporating businesses bringing

951
01:10:48,810 --> 01:10:55,230
businesses bringing our community downtown making it walkable. So I think that's a great idea just

952
01:10:55,230 --> 01:11:00,930
if we can have the discussion there and incorporate that. That means having you know tying it into the

953
01:11:00,930 --> 01:11:07,290
life on celebration. Let's do a tree lighting. Let's have, you know, organizations, nonprofits,

954
01:11:07,910 --> 01:11:14,330
charities, let them have them decorate trees. Let's have that featured downtown. Can we use

955
01:11:14,330 --> 01:11:19,690
some of the vacant locks there? Can we run back? Can we put the trees there? You know, carriage rides.

956
01:11:19,930 --> 01:11:25,410
I mean, we have hay rides, apple cider rides. We live in a farming community and we can get

957
01:11:25,410 --> 01:11:30,570
forces. We can get carriages. We can get hay rides. We can bring people downtown. We can get people

958
01:11:30,570 --> 01:11:37,270
to stay downtown, storefront, decorating, you know, I think the biggest thing is we want

959
01:11:37,270 --> 01:11:41,510
downtown to be walkable and I think if we create these events in like the fall,

960
01:11:41,650 --> 01:11:45,410
doing like October fest, like you said, I think there's so many ideas that we can really pull

961
01:11:45,410 --> 01:11:50,950
together but incorporate the business community and have them here as a part of the conversation

962
01:11:50,950 --> 01:11:57,310
to be able to really bring that to life and get them excited about business time in the fall

963
01:11:57,310 --> 01:12:02,510
and shopping. I know I'm sure you would love to see people coming up by books and spending time

964
01:12:02,510 --> 01:12:10,710
at your books or during the holidays, right? Incorporating cocoa, you know, stops. Having a mug,

965
01:12:11,070 --> 01:12:14,950
you know, I think there's just so much that we're leaving on the table and I think, you know,

966
01:12:15,170 --> 01:12:22,170
really utilizing this commission to be able to really put things forward and just execute on them

967
01:12:22,170 --> 01:12:29,050
And really just I think these ideas are great and I just would love to be able to see them come to fruition.

968
01:12:33,300 --> 01:12:42,700
Yeah, I mean I think I don't know there's so much energy we have I think that I think there are certainly in terms of other events through the fall.

969
01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:43,760
I'm all for it.

970
01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:49,620
I think it makes a lot of sense, but I think we need to decide what would make the most sense to investigate and go after.

971
01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:55,080
And then puts some more energy into it.

972
01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:58,420
So something like, like, D.A.D.

973
01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:02,520
Desmondos, right, is, I think, a very popular event.

974
01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:05,800
I know in San Juan Patista, where, you know, my wife is from

975
01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:08,540
and we've been very involved there with this yatro.

976
01:13:08,940 --> 01:13:12,740
And there's a lot of community participation and a lot of

977
01:13:12,740 --> 01:13:15,260
great things are the parade that happens as part of it.

978
01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:18,860
Our food truck has been part of it, so that's why I know about it.

979
01:13:18,860 --> 01:13:22,720
But it's a very actively supported by the community.

980
01:13:23,860 --> 01:13:26,740
And it's something that I think we could do a lot with.

981
01:13:27,260 --> 01:13:29,680
So I think picking in a couple of events like that

982
01:13:31,640 --> 01:13:34,480
or dates on the calendar where we can bring in

983
01:13:34,480 --> 01:13:37,020
some real community support and do a lot with it

984
01:13:37,020 --> 01:13:38,180
make a lot of sense.

985
01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:41,260
But I think you got to decide which of those

986
01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:43,860
makes the most sense and then go after them

987
01:13:43,860 --> 01:13:45,900
and then you can always expand it in future years.

988
01:13:45,900 --> 01:13:51,100
But I would much rather have a couple of things we want to do and make them really successful

989
01:13:51,660 --> 01:13:57,840
Then get diluted. I guess this kind of might be what the first thing we need to do is we need to make the downtown more walkable

990
01:13:58,540 --> 01:14:00,540
Back when Ignacio was the mayor

991
01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:06,580
One of the problems that we had was we had a fair amount of crime happening at night on San Benito Street

992
01:14:06,580 --> 01:14:11,760
And there was a discussion as to you know how to fund getting more police there

993
01:14:11,760 --> 01:14:14,300
And I said you just really need to take an example from

994
01:14:14,300 --> 01:14:15,360
and send was visible.

995
01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:17,440
If you get down there, there's lighting everywhere

996
01:14:17,440 --> 01:14:19,780
and fully still like an audience.

997
01:14:20,500 --> 01:14:22,940
So I actually went with a bunch of other business owners

998
01:14:22,940 --> 01:14:24,700
and we started wrapping the trees ourselves

999
01:14:25,100 --> 01:14:26,500
with Home Depot Christmas lights

1000
01:14:26,500 --> 01:14:28,440
and then they got a contract out.

1001
01:14:28,940 --> 01:14:30,860
And that's what needs to be put up datedness.

1002
01:14:31,020 --> 01:14:32,640
We do need to first and foremost,

1003
01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:35,060
we need to update and increase the lighting downtown.

1004
01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:39,100
Secondly, I like the idea of having like the hay rides.

1005
01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:42,380
We do need to use all of our community resources

1006
01:14:42,380 --> 01:14:46,440
is like Matt only the only the honorable link who already had a trunk or

1007
01:14:46,440 --> 01:14:49,800
tree event where the whole writers would come down and give kids and you know

1008
01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:52,800
and they're providing all they need is the parking spots and cost the city

1009
01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:57,820
nothing to provide a safe place for kids to get that. I like the idea of having like

1010
01:14:57,820 --> 01:14:59,900
the beer and wine stroll set up was something really

1011
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:29,500
We have carriages where people could jump on the carriages and do like a hay ride. I think we could also do like a pumpkin carving contest very easily in a very little expense. We could probably get the business owners or something like that to buy 20 pumpkins from J&D farms or something like that and have, you know, a pumpkin carving contest amongst the different businesses and see who has the best fun. These are very easy things to do that we could put back on the people of the city as you mentioned with San Juan Matista. It's primarily civic driven. And so it's just a matter of us.

1012
01:15:29,500 --> 01:15:33,600
just going and talking to the business owners and seeing what do you want to do in this fall

1013
01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:38,340
and then seeing if the city would be admissible towards cleaning up all the horse poop if we were

1014
01:15:38,340 --> 01:15:42,460
to do that and finding a way to ensure the event because where there's horses there's problems.

1015
01:15:43,660 --> 01:15:48,380
So that would be the only liability but I do believe it would be awesome to have some sort of a

1016
01:15:48,380 --> 01:15:54,300
fall event that really honors our history in terms of giving us an identity as a primarily farming

1017
01:15:54,300 --> 01:15:59,920
community, that's where we should at harvest, bring out our culture and celebrate our culture,

1018
01:15:59,920 --> 01:16:05,180
because otherwise, if we don't, we're just another challenge strip most. And so, and all

1019
01:16:05,180 --> 01:16:09,180
good comments to put it in context a little bit. I know that part of this conversation,

1020
01:16:09,500 --> 01:16:15,240
definitely with the lighting was to address ultimately the downtown, the vibrancy, right,

1021
01:16:15,440 --> 01:16:22,120
to make it safer, to increase lights by default creates more visibility, less attraction to people

1022
01:16:22,120 --> 01:16:29,480
that are trying to do bad things, but economic development wise, I mean Peter mentioned Ignacio

1023
01:16:29,480 --> 01:16:35,820
and I used to joke with him that we were like the radiators, springs of Salmonego County, right?

1024
01:16:36,060 --> 01:16:40,480
I don't know. You guys remember them? We'll be cars, right? Kids. I still have little ones,

1025
01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:47,600
but the whole point is 25, you know, a big duo over on the downtown vibrancy, right? There's not

1026
01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:51,700
as much economic development. People have less of a reason. Valley, you have a bond pass. That's created

1027
01:16:51,700 --> 01:16:56,900
a negative effect. So the economic development in our downtown is really suffering and the whole idea

1028
01:16:56,900 --> 01:17:02,320
is to not even just make it a one thing but more of a season where there's kind of certain pieces

1029
01:17:02,320 --> 01:17:07,700
in place. These are all infrastructure type pieces. Things that the cities slowly administering right

1030
01:17:07,700 --> 01:17:12,860
even the permitting process, you're also dealing with code enforcement, all those things need to be

1031
01:17:12,860 --> 01:17:18,360
addressed ahead of time so that these things are happening organically without any hiccups and

1032
01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:21,360
you know, liability issues or whatever, right, whatever that means.

1033
01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:26,700
So that's where the conversation basically started and making the downtown, you know,

1034
01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:33,880
I had heard even considering like maybe after 6 o'clock just shutting down the street, allowing

1035
01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:40,240
fire pits downtown, things like events like what Christine mentioned to infill in ultimately

1036
01:17:40,240 --> 01:17:44,140
create that vibrancy, but all this would have to be pre-programmed and even marketed ahead

1037
01:17:44,140 --> 01:17:44,480
of time.

1038
01:17:44,480 --> 01:17:56,780
The community would want to, you know, sorry that the consumer part of our community would see it and want to be a part of it and obviously plan their day so that they could be a part of it.

1039
01:17:56,960 --> 01:18:02,340
That's basically the gist of the conversation and you guys are mentioning the same thoughts about how to make that happen.

1040
01:18:05,790 --> 01:18:05,970
Adam?

1041
01:18:05,970 --> 01:18:12,610
Um, uh, the only thing that I noticed is that there's certain communities that have

1042
01:18:12,610 --> 01:18:18,830
something like a candy cane lane, um, like a Monterey or play a row of one of those has

1043
01:18:18,830 --> 01:18:21,090
the whole community that comes together.

1044
01:18:21,190 --> 01:18:26,530
Now that kind of park, it's got a surrounding area, it's in a residential area, but I like

1045
01:18:26,530 --> 01:18:32,670
the idea of incorporating a lot of these ideas into one unified event, uh, and it could be

1046
01:18:32,670 --> 01:18:34,370
an ongoing event, could be a month long thing.

1047
01:18:34,370 --> 01:18:46,210
But, you know, you would mention there was a, if we could do a tree lighting or tree decorating, and that actually already takes place at the Veterans Memorial building.

1048
01:18:46,510 --> 01:18:48,190
Lights off very, pretty much takes care of them.

1049
01:18:48,410 --> 01:18:53,690
Right, right. But the problem that I'm noticing is we also have like an ice rink that pops up.

1050
01:18:53,690 --> 01:19:00,230
Yeah, skating, right. Yeah, and so all these different things are wonderful, but they're all individuals

1051
01:19:00,990 --> 01:19:07,390
Separated and I think we can unify it somehow and put groups together. We have a wonderful thing down a little park

1052
01:19:08,030 --> 01:19:12,790
That said it ran by an event organization that is putting this together

1053
01:19:12,790 --> 01:19:17,290
And so just throughout different ideas and we can incorporate it all into

1054
01:19:17,890 --> 01:19:22,050
Christmas plays and stuff, but they've got a lot of to write or some not sure on that

1055
01:19:22,050 --> 01:19:28,430
And either way, to your point, by creating some kind of a network that's talking about

1056
01:19:28,430 --> 01:19:32,690
the very things of it, we're not, you know, most of the way I do think we need to get

1057
01:19:33,370 --> 01:19:35,850
the lighting resolved downtown to make it well.

1058
01:19:35,910 --> 01:19:36,650
That was everyone.

1059
01:19:37,030 --> 01:19:40,010
That's definitely, that would be the strongest recommendation that I could think of that would

1060
01:19:40,010 --> 01:19:40,910
make the biggest difference.

1061
01:19:41,890 --> 01:19:46,090
Beyond that, if there were Christmas decorations that, you know, the city wanted to do some

1062
01:19:46,090 --> 01:19:49,550
both decorations on those little poles that have the veterans on them, or something like

1063
01:19:49,550 --> 01:19:53,850
that wrap a pole with something you put nice last about a week out here though.

1064
01:19:54,550 --> 01:19:59,670
But having an event that is community based like the trunk or tree type of event, or when

1065
01:19:59,670 --> 01:20:03,950
we do the lights on parade having the cars themselves have Christmas lights on them or

1066
01:20:03,950 --> 01:20:05,570
something like that would also be a cool thing.

1067
01:20:07,210 --> 01:20:12,950
I like the idea of having a specific harvest type festival event where we do something like

1068
01:20:12,950 --> 01:20:16,610
the beer and wine stroll or something like that, but you could actually jump on a car

1069
01:20:20,470 --> 01:20:31,210
I think it was like even with a trunker tree wasn't there like some kind of a you know issue because they tried to do it and there was some kind of a like they didn't have a permit or something.

1070
01:20:31,650 --> 01:20:34,070
And that's a big downer right then at that point.

1071
01:20:34,250 --> 01:20:44,050
So all the cars were legally parked but the police department did have a problem because they were given a complaint that they were doing the trunker tree without a permit and it is somewhat an event.

1072
01:20:44,990 --> 01:20:47,710
But we can run that through the halls of downtown association.

1073
01:20:48,230 --> 01:20:49,950
That was my recommendation back then.

1074
01:20:50,050 --> 01:20:53,310
I've introduced Omar with the entity that provides that.

1075
01:20:53,850 --> 01:20:55,670
And I think that's the direction that they're going to go.

1076
01:20:56,170 --> 01:21:02,750
And, you know, thank God we've got him here on the council because now we do forward a lot of these events through the downtown association as we come up with them.

1077
01:21:03,110 --> 01:21:07,130
But again, I think the strongest thing that we could do for downtown is improve the lighting.

1078
01:21:07,650 --> 01:21:12,670
I think that's that's first and foremost in the agenda because before we can have events down there,

1079
01:21:12,670 --> 01:21:17,110
it needs to feel safe for a person to walk to spend with them.

1080
01:21:18,470 --> 01:21:19,870
More lighting would be amazing.

1081
01:21:20,270 --> 01:21:22,330
A monoray is like, it's like being almost

1082
01:21:22,330 --> 01:21:23,550
it feels like in the one hand.

1083
01:21:23,790 --> 01:21:27,010
We have suggestions, because I believe that lighting,

1084
01:21:27,310 --> 01:21:28,810
the additional lighting, that's on.

1085
01:21:29,270 --> 01:21:29,930
It needs to be difficult.

1086
01:21:29,930 --> 01:21:31,990
There are a lot of trees and stuff, right?

1087
01:21:32,370 --> 01:21:32,990
So do we have?

1088
01:21:33,210 --> 01:21:35,170
I think this is just the trees.

1089
01:21:35,470 --> 01:21:37,830
Well, I think we have Shefford's holds.

1090
01:21:38,410 --> 01:21:41,370
They are mostly halogen, which are not only

1091
01:21:41,370 --> 01:21:46,630
more expensive energy wise but they're also not as bright right because you can control

1092
01:21:47,370 --> 01:21:51,730
LED lighting better so if there's a way that I actually had heard from the first city

1093
01:21:51,730 --> 01:21:55,430
manager that they had already purchased the lights or something they just needed to install

1094
01:21:55,430 --> 01:22:04,450
them so but regardless of the fact you almost have to try to assume how you want the downtown

1095
01:22:04,450 --> 01:22:09,650
lighting to look like and then that way you infill it with whatever that.

1096
01:22:09,650 --> 01:22:16,110
And my understanding is there was a maintenance contract with the initial install, I'm not sure if that's still a case or not, but all of the trees need

1097
01:22:17,150 --> 01:22:20,470
Sproosing up a little bit because some of the wires have fallen and things like that

1098
01:22:20,470 --> 01:22:25,490
So the first thing I would do is find out whether or not it's actionable to to rely on that contract to have them

1099
01:22:25,490 --> 01:22:31,570
Just fix what's there and repair what's there and then you have a zigzag going across there

1100
01:22:31,570 --> 01:22:38,110
And I would see if it's possible to over double that Chris crossing if you give more light to it

1101
01:22:38,110 --> 01:22:43,610
It just really will you already have one string that just exactly across the street

1102
01:22:43,610 --> 01:22:50,450
You just need one more doing the same thing. Yeah, I mean, right right ultimately throughout the world

1103
01:22:50,450 --> 01:22:55,290
November into December you have kind of this like slow down effect of tasking right

1104
01:22:55,290 --> 01:23:04,410
Yeah, so so creating a positive outcome out of that turning it into where the lighting gets put up and then all these things

1105
01:23:04,410 --> 01:23:11,810
even just creating that network, and then have the team and the HDA work together, try

1106
01:23:11,810 --> 01:23:17,810
to come up with maybe some fine floor, some kind of festivities or events, right?

1107
01:23:17,910 --> 01:23:22,490
Or even just creating the network where they're working together, and then that even gets

1108
01:23:22,490 --> 01:23:26,730
message through the business community, I think would have an amazing effect.

1109
01:23:27,110 --> 01:23:31,010
A lot of people don't even know things are happening, when they are happening and very

1110
01:23:31,010 --> 01:23:40,790
I think they're I think trying to motivate people to want to come downtown pretty much as part of a social engagement, right?

1111
01:23:41,050 --> 01:23:48,210
So maybe that looks like yes, you want to have the bins with themes going on.

1112
01:23:48,430 --> 01:23:53,210
But those are going to be like one or two just because it's a heavy lift by somebody.

1113
01:23:53,210 --> 01:23:58,910
when it's the city or when it's house downtown association or it's by the chamber or if you get

1114
01:23:58,910 --> 01:24:03,390
volunteer groups from all the businesses it's going to be a heavy lift by somebody so

1115
01:24:04,450 --> 01:24:13,230
what about um thinking about like music that would add to that maybe some fire pits or something

1116
01:24:13,230 --> 01:24:20,170
like that around the vets hall building you've got a nice front to the building there and it's well

1117
01:24:20,170 --> 01:24:25,310
bit right there in front of the building, right? So if you had like different

1118
01:24:25,310 --> 01:24:32,330
thing bands every weekend on a rotation that would come and play from like 7 p.m. to

1119
01:24:32,330 --> 01:24:40,010
10, 3, 11 p.m. and you added some fire pits and you had some some chairs there and

1120
01:24:40,010 --> 01:24:46,910
then maybe maybe we have a food truck that holds up and serve hot chocolate or

1121
01:24:46,910 --> 01:24:50,850
or something like that, that's not available around by the businesses currently.

1122
01:24:51,090 --> 01:24:55,890
Is there anything to get people to walk down there because the idea is to feed them there?

1123
01:24:56,170 --> 01:24:58,690
There is too much, actually that's a good part of the conversation.

1124
01:24:58,910 --> 01:25:00,990
There is a lot of dense space downtown in the union.

1125
01:25:01,250 --> 01:25:06,810
I would say as a venue owner, I would be resistant to creating a publicly ran venue

1126
01:25:06,810 --> 01:25:08,770
that is in competition with privately owned businesses.

1127
01:25:10,010 --> 01:25:16,070
I think that, again, if we give a little razzle dazzle of lighting to downtown,

1128
01:25:16,070 --> 01:25:19,170
that will be enough reason for people to go down there.

1129
01:25:19,310 --> 01:25:21,990
And then of course, we can incentivize individual business owners

1130
01:25:21,990 --> 01:25:24,710
to have events going on in conjunction

1131
01:25:24,710 --> 01:25:27,170
with the publisher downtown says,

1132
01:25:27,170 --> 01:25:28,830
it's something like the beer and wine stroll

1133
01:25:28,830 --> 01:25:31,850
or something similar to that of a harvest kind of thing.

1134
01:25:32,350 --> 01:25:34,150
You know, carving pumpkins or something

1135
01:25:34,150 --> 01:25:35,810
like that and having a pumpkin carving contest.

1136
01:25:36,010 --> 01:25:38,590
I'm certainly not suggesting that we compete like

1137
01:25:38,590 --> 01:25:40,410
with selling these early.

1138
01:25:40,890 --> 01:25:44,230
But I'm saying like if you had bands there

1139
01:25:44,230 --> 01:25:49,170
plus to that pay if we utilize the, that's all building. It's a beautiful venue, right?

1140
01:25:49,550 --> 01:25:56,190
It is. It seems to be an underutilized, and that also draws people from innings of, kind of

1141
01:25:56,190 --> 01:26:02,290
from South Street, from Port Street, to come and walk that so it gives the opportunity for other

1142
01:26:02,290 --> 01:26:08,090
businesses to get their business as they're strolling to. So the idea of like, if you just

1143
01:26:08,090 --> 01:26:14,830
had a committed series of bands that were set to come there so people could come and

1144
01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:22,070
sit from 7 p.m. to 10 p.m. to 10 p.m. but say now they're going to enjoy the band for

1145
01:26:22,070 --> 01:26:26,610
a while and they get cool, they get hungry, they want to get food, whatever it might be,

1146
01:26:26,750 --> 01:26:26,910
right?

1147
01:26:27,450 --> 01:26:32,830
So I've found that those events generally tend to benefit the businesses that are within

1148
01:26:32,830 --> 01:26:37,770
about one block. Beyond that, we're in a group of people, aren't there people like to be within

1149
01:26:37,770 --> 01:26:44,370
crowds? When the crowd thins out, so does the business participation, which is why I'm still

1150
01:26:44,370 --> 01:26:49,210
kind of a proponent of fixing the lighting and then creating something where you have to move

1151
01:26:49,210 --> 01:26:54,890
from venue to venue in order to take part of the event, which could be judging a pumpkin carving

1152
01:26:54,890 --> 01:27:00,130
contest or participating in a beer and wine show type of thing, but something that all the business

1153
01:27:00,130 --> 01:27:02,550
as owners can mutify in an event.

1154
01:27:03,050 --> 01:27:06,470
I'm not against having live bands out downtown

1155
01:27:06,470 --> 01:27:08,230
and having some sort of a thing like to say

1156
01:27:08,230 --> 01:27:09,810
with the farmers market or something like that,

1157
01:27:09,870 --> 01:27:13,850
where you give a theatric event

1158
01:27:13,850 --> 01:27:15,310
to there being something downtown.

1159
01:27:15,810 --> 01:27:17,910
But I think what's more sustainable is to put it back

1160
01:27:17,910 --> 01:27:20,250
on to the individual business owners in the community

1161
01:27:20,650 --> 01:27:25,710
to say, hey, we would like to do an event in this time frame.

1162
01:27:25,970 --> 01:27:27,650
We would like your participation in it.

1163
01:27:27,650 --> 01:27:34,590
buy in as cheap as buying 10 pockets and we'll have you know people and kids come over and everything like that

1164
01:27:34,590 --> 01:27:39,070
You can bring your ticket over for a you know a drink or a coupon or something like that

1165
01:27:39,070 --> 01:27:42,970
But I do believe really quick. I agree in a little bit with Jeff

1166
01:27:42,970 --> 01:27:50,070
If you have downtown like if you have some kind of metrics by creating a non-compete clause or something right

1167
01:27:50,070 --> 01:27:54,250
You're not gonna allow anything to think it's already there right if there's Mexican food

1168
01:27:54,250 --> 01:27:57,890
obviously you wouldn't have that, but something that my eat would, I just don't like

1169
01:27:57,890 --> 01:28:02,210
half the food truck. Well all I'm saying is yeah I mean regardless of that

1170
01:28:02,210 --> 01:28:06,850
you're right. I know for me I would have never even touched the brick and mortar

1171
01:28:06,850 --> 01:28:12,210
if I hadn't built like through years of you know out and getting out in the open

1172
01:28:12,210 --> 01:28:16,030
right where people see me that thinks a lot of risk right a lot of people it's

1173
01:28:16,030 --> 01:28:18,530
hard for them to assume that risk and then all of a sudden get to brick and mortar

1174
01:28:18,530 --> 01:28:22,130
which automatically becomes a whole for cost. But if you create that opportunity

1175
01:28:22,130 --> 01:28:25,510
give them some visibility. They actually get some traction. They understand their marketing.

1176
01:28:25,890 --> 01:28:28,990
Before you know it, they get comfortable. Then all of a sudden, they're the ones filling in the

1177
01:28:28,990 --> 01:28:35,050
place. Steve, I think it's the perfect example of that. I think there's models for what's been

1178
01:28:35,050 --> 01:28:39,630
successful in this area. I don't know if you guys went to the beer and wine stroll in South.

1179
01:28:39,990 --> 01:28:45,850
Oh, in San Juan, the Houston. It was two or three years ago. It was put on by the spirit of San

1180
01:28:45,850 --> 01:28:51,230
Juan. It was incredibly successful. And it was incredibly successful because they integrated it in

1181
01:28:51,230 --> 01:28:56,430
with the businesses. So, you know, they have like a dozen different venues and each venue

1182
01:28:56,430 --> 01:29:02,210
was in a business. And so, you have a wine vendor that partnered with a business. So,

1183
01:29:02,290 --> 01:29:02,870
you would go to...

1184
01:29:02,870 --> 01:29:05,890
I'm sure I've missed a beer and wine store like now, but what we should do is, in my

1185
01:29:05,890 --> 01:29:08,750
talk, to over the best one. What is beer and wine store in there?

1186
01:29:09,230 --> 01:29:09,610
I don't know.

1187
01:29:10,130 --> 01:29:10,750
Yeah, that's true.

1188
01:29:10,770 --> 01:29:11,650
So, what do you do with another one?

1189
01:29:12,250 --> 01:29:17,950
And that would be a harvest-time festival, exact same venue, exact same format. We can bring

1190
01:29:17,950 --> 01:29:23,910
in everything in terms of who trucks and everything like that, but I do agree that a band

1191
01:29:23,910 --> 01:29:28,850
at that time may be appropriate in setting up a whole festival downtown, but I'm going

1192
01:29:28,850 --> 01:29:33,950
to go back to lighting again. The first and foremost thing that would attract people

1193
01:29:33,950 --> 01:29:37,130
downtown is if it was really well taken apart.

1194
01:29:39,690 --> 01:29:43,510
That's going to be a year long lasting best

1195
01:29:43,510 --> 01:29:48,050
staying for the buck revenue spent because people are already going to be going down because

1196
01:29:48,050 --> 01:29:51,670
it's brighter and there's something to see. Then you throw an event on top of that, you'll

1197
01:29:51,670 --> 01:29:58,230
have more people showing. Yeah. So just to kind of add to the lighting, I know of course lighting

1198
01:29:58,230 --> 01:29:59,970
is phenomenal, but we're...

1199
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:28,940
I do want to add is some of the lighting on the side streets, although it would help with the city, but some of those, for example, by the chamber. That's the landlord thing. Some of the buildings, some of them, the lighting is not working. The lights have gone out. And I'm at the office late. And so when I'm looking down some of the side street that some of the businesses, but some of them that do have the burden water, you know, part of it is landlord and some of them.

1200
01:30:28,940 --> 01:30:40,460
Do have lighting provided which is pretty bright on some of the side streets, but again it's getting into your landlord and making sure that those like their length or being maintenance aside from additional lighting.

1201
01:30:41,260 --> 01:30:53,260
But to go back to Jeff's point, we are in a good area where we can see really great models for a Thursday night music series Friday night music series and they're successful.

1202
01:30:53,260 --> 01:30:59,720
So, there's no reason why we can't near that, and really, for example, one of our

1203
01:30:59,720 --> 01:31:04,620
registered chambers down the street, they put on a successful Friday night

1204
01:31:04,620 --> 01:31:09,760
meetings experience. That is extremely well attended. I have attended just to kind of

1205
01:31:09,760 --> 01:31:15,200
really see the outpour of community members and the vendors there, and where they

1206
01:31:15,200 --> 01:31:20,380
have it. We could easily mirror something like that here and do it at Dunpark.

1207
01:31:20,380 --> 01:31:27,520
work. Have a music. Of course, but if we're looking at even incorporating other businesses,

1208
01:31:27,660 --> 01:31:31,980
we don't want to take away from downtown because the idea and the goal is to make downtown

1209
01:31:32,780 --> 01:31:38,620
walkable and to create more foot traffic there. So that way businesses, you know, can see that

1210
01:31:38,620 --> 01:31:45,780
foot traffic. But again, we're here to be able to really be creative and to see what's really

1211
01:31:45,780 --> 01:31:49,940
going to work for businesses overall in the community and what we can bring to the community

1212
01:31:49,940 --> 01:31:55,360
but also tying in our businesses. So I think at the end of the day we can sit here and we can

1213
01:31:55,360 --> 01:32:00,920
talk about all the fantastic ideas that we all have but I think at this point what we need to do

1214
01:32:00,920 --> 01:32:07,500
is we really need to lock it in and say okay well we have you know four seasons a year can we do

1215
01:32:07,500 --> 01:32:11,600
if we can all agree that we would like to see something for Christmas we'd all like to agree

1216
01:32:11,600 --> 01:32:12,860
that would see something for harvest.

1217
01:32:13,260 --> 01:32:14,640
We have the wine and bear show,

1218
01:32:14,800 --> 01:32:16,020
which is something we can do in May,

1219
01:32:16,100 --> 01:32:18,980
can we do like a taste of San Benito,

1220
01:32:18,980 --> 01:32:21,000
which I've talked about doing with the chamber

1221
01:32:21,000 --> 01:32:22,440
and bringing that back.

1222
01:32:22,900 --> 01:32:24,980
So that's something that I'm working on currently.

1223
01:32:25,440 --> 01:32:27,620
And that would be more than just like-

1224
01:32:27,620 --> 01:32:28,880
In different businesses.

1225
01:32:29,220 --> 01:32:30,480
Right, no, this is just,

1226
01:32:30,620 --> 01:32:33,280
this is featuring our current wineries,

1227
01:32:33,660 --> 01:32:35,060
featuring our restaurants,

1228
01:32:35,640 --> 01:32:38,520
featuring the businesses that we already have locally

1229
01:32:38,520 --> 01:32:40,220
and making sure that they're highlighted.

1230
01:32:40,220 --> 01:32:45,200
this is something that I've already been working on on the side but again I think the

1231
01:32:45,200 --> 01:32:48,640
biggest thing here is I don't want us to get too carried away because we can all have

1232
01:32:48,640 --> 01:32:52,900
great ideas and I know we have the best intentions for our businesses but I think right now I

1233
01:32:52,900 --> 01:32:58,040
think the most important thing is I really would like to see us say okay let's put this down

1234
01:32:58,040 --> 01:33:03,260
on paper we all agree X we all agree Y in this season and let's really start putting some

1235
01:33:03,920 --> 01:33:09,360
Let's put some collaborative efforts behind it to see how we can agree to say, okay,

1236
01:33:09,540 --> 01:33:14,480
next meeting, let's talk about ironing out what we really want to do and what we really

1237
01:33:14,480 --> 01:33:17,760
want to see and let's start putting some action behind it.

1238
01:33:17,960 --> 01:33:22,540
I think just really narrowing down what would be best in our thoughts for community-wide,

1239
01:33:22,700 --> 01:33:23,320
but also business.

1240
01:33:23,600 --> 01:33:28,560
I don't think we'll be able to package it before I forget and I've mentioned this because

1241
01:33:28,560 --> 01:33:32,520
I know it will be a good issue if you think so downtown just so for those that don't know

1242
01:33:32,520 --> 01:33:37,140
It's a mixed use, right, which means there's commercial,

1243
01:33:37,660 --> 01:33:39,100
but there's also residential.

1244
01:33:40,000 --> 01:33:42,540
And with mixed use, you're gonna have tenants, people,

1245
01:33:42,660 --> 01:33:44,140
and I've actually heard some properties.

1246
01:33:44,180 --> 01:33:46,400
I think the little property, you know,

1247
01:33:46,480 --> 01:33:48,700
if it turns into an apartment complex,

1248
01:33:49,260 --> 01:33:51,520
I mean, we invite those folks to come downtown,

1249
01:33:51,540 --> 01:33:54,820
but it's also a disclosure element, it's very necessary

1250
01:33:54,820 --> 01:33:56,380
so that you don't have nuisance.

1251
01:33:57,060 --> 01:33:58,440
The hard part about nuisance too,

1252
01:33:58,500 --> 01:34:00,080
which I know you have a lot of experience with here,

1253
01:34:01,520 --> 01:34:11,980
It's very ambiguous and it requires police to respond technically usually side with the complainer and that's I think it's unfair sometimes regardless of that.

1254
01:34:12,200 --> 01:34:23,720
Like that's why you have to create these protections and I think maybe moving in the direction of making the downtown entertainment district where there is these things tied into it.

1255
01:34:23,720 --> 01:34:27,920
It can even be part of that disclosure element, anybody who grants, by the way, there's your disclosure.

1256
01:34:28,780 --> 01:34:32,800
And then also securing even a level of decimals, so that would just continuity with the businesses.

1257
01:34:33,440 --> 01:34:38,960
And I'd like to add to that, you know, about a quarter century producing concerts and events and everything like that.

1258
01:34:39,120 --> 01:34:43,800
And I can tell you if you have a permanent amphitheater, permanent stage area set up,

1259
01:34:43,800 --> 01:34:46,460
it produced the costs of those events significantly.

1260
01:34:46,900 --> 01:34:51,120
If you're constantly bringing in the infrastructure for staging and lighting and power and everything like that,

1261
01:34:51,120 --> 01:35:02,020
You're really going to be hard pressed to see your dollar back against what it costs to produce such that there is a spot.

1262
01:35:02,360 --> 01:35:09,780
I know it's been right next to the minute McKinnon lumber across the street from the Chevron station.

1263
01:35:10,120 --> 01:35:20,700
There's a person that owns that property that hasn't really wanted to utilize it before, but I think if we were ever going to create a permanent stage type setup

1264
01:35:20,700 --> 01:35:25,260
where we could just have power even a concrete stage or something set up, where we could utilize

1265
01:35:25,260 --> 01:35:29,680
something like this. That would be a good center facing at a 45-degree level back towards

1266
01:35:29,680 --> 01:35:34,480
everything, where you could do this cost effectively. Otherwise, if you have to try and set up

1267
01:35:34,480 --> 01:35:38,720
state-right staging and then amperage and everything like that, you're going to have a hard time

1268
01:35:39,240 --> 01:35:44,380
being able to do concert series or bands or anything like that and have it not cost quite

1269
01:35:44,380 --> 01:35:47,880
a bit of money because it's a lot of labor to set that stuff up and take down that's what

1270
01:35:47,880 --> 01:35:50,300
I was 17 years old when I was 50 now.

1271
01:35:51,020 --> 01:35:53,680
So, one of the things that I would like to address,

1272
01:35:53,860 --> 01:35:55,460
just in that if we want to have that,

1273
01:35:55,780 --> 01:35:58,900
one of the first things we should figure out is,

1274
01:35:59,740 --> 01:36:00,940
where can we set that up?

1275
01:36:01,400 --> 01:36:04,020
Where can we leave semi-permanent staging set up

1276
01:36:04,020 --> 01:36:06,340
where we can do that and just return to that area,

1277
01:36:06,580 --> 01:36:07,460
just set up an expand?

1278
01:36:11,600 --> 01:36:13,780
Would you agree with this would be steep enough?

1279
01:36:15,580 --> 01:36:17,280
It could be done throughout, of course,

1280
01:36:17,420 --> 01:36:18,640
there obviously during the rainy season.

1281
01:36:19,960 --> 01:36:26,440
most fans also would kind of require and it's also a safety thing because you do have 70 volts

1282
01:36:26,440 --> 01:36:30,240
on through these things and if you're plugged into something that's in a different circuit and you're

1283
01:36:30,240 --> 01:36:34,100
holding onto a guitar there's 70 volts running through that and if they're on separate circuits

1284
01:36:34,100 --> 01:36:38,880
and you touch your lip to that you get a little shock and if it's raining you get a little bit more

1285
01:36:38,880 --> 01:36:45,280
of a shock so there's ways to do it and there's ways to not do it and that would be one of the things

1286
01:36:45,280 --> 01:36:49,000
that we would really need to look into is, what's the most cost effective way where we could

1287
01:36:49,000 --> 01:36:53,240
set up a sending permanent structure for entertaining and for addressing the downtown,

1288
01:36:53,620 --> 01:36:59,500
which may also have some components of shade on the top of it for the band's system piece of

1289
01:36:59,500 --> 01:37:03,940
range or something like that, just to be able to put it there. So I think again, we're kind of

1290
01:37:03,940 --> 01:37:10,320
getting into longer-term suggestions as to how we incorporate music-type events,

1291
01:37:10,320 --> 01:37:16,440
fans of the greater community. I think so that's probably some long-term could

1292
01:37:16,440 --> 01:37:23,020
we probably need to look at where's the right venue for that. That's right, there's all these considerations

1293
01:37:23,020 --> 01:37:32,560
to really make it work right. So just for time lessons, can we go back to, again, so within the downtown

1294
01:37:32,560 --> 01:37:55,140
So from basically moderating the East, South to Fourth, maybe even up to Third, where within that do we think it's helpful to get people to just want to come down on a Friday or a Saturday night and just participate, walk the street and come down.

1295
01:37:55,140 --> 01:38:01,340
do you think it's helpful to have maybe like a band out of venue something like

1296
01:38:01,340 --> 01:38:08,560
utilizing maybe the front of the vets all building or maybe it turns into you

1297
01:38:08,560 --> 01:38:13,320
target a certain band and you run them for a three nights in a row and then

1298
01:38:13,320 --> 01:38:20,080
maybe we open it up for DJ competition so it tracks a little different group or

1299
01:38:20,080 --> 01:38:23,800
something you know like what I'm saying because maybe you're trying to get a

1300
01:38:23,800 --> 01:38:29,280
different demographic and so maybe you can do that but do you think that's gonna

1301
01:38:29,280 --> 01:38:36,520
result in making the downtown so if we increase lighting you know for the

1302
01:38:36,520 --> 01:38:40,560
amount of money that you would spend on on two bands and of course we have to

1303
01:38:40,560 --> 01:38:43,700
run this by fire and see if they'd be okay with it you know we could drop pay

1304
01:38:43,700 --> 01:38:49,060
bills up down street and put pumpkins that people could just grab and start

1305
01:38:49,060 --> 01:38:54,400
carving for free and on a day we could just have a declaration of all of the

1306
01:38:54,400 --> 01:38:58,240
ball themed things and grab a pumpkin and here's a little plastic pumpkin

1307
01:38:58,240 --> 01:39:01,740
carving kit and then go to the vet's hall with your carved pumpkins it's all

1308
01:39:01,740 --> 01:39:07,300
free and I think that would be amazing. That would theme the entire downtown towards

1309
01:39:07,300 --> 01:39:12,660
harvest. Obviously we're the hay balers we've got about hay and if we just had

1310
01:39:12,660 --> 01:39:17,680
hay bales with pumpkins on them, little pumpkin carving kits and at 6 p.m. bring

1311
01:39:17,680 --> 01:39:22,000
your card to pumpkin and come downtown would probably be one of the cheapest, most cost-effective

1312
01:39:22,000 --> 01:39:26,120
things to create one of the most memorable experiences you could bang for buccalice.

1313
01:39:26,800 --> 01:39:30,380
But this would just be a single doubt to just like a harvest festival.

1314
01:39:30,460 --> 01:39:31,200
Oh, just just that one.

1315
01:39:31,500 --> 01:39:31,600
Yeah.

1316
01:39:31,760 --> 01:39:32,100
Or that.

1317
01:39:32,240 --> 01:39:33,280
Just to make that happen.

1318
01:39:34,080 --> 01:39:35,020
I see you let it come in.

1319
01:39:35,040 --> 01:39:37,200
The easiest way to just make that happen would be that.

1320
01:39:37,620 --> 01:39:37,980
Yeah.

1321
01:39:38,060 --> 01:39:38,740
No, that would be great.

1322
01:39:39,660 --> 01:39:47,040
But I think, and I'm just kind of going back to the music theatre, so I know what the

1323
01:39:47,040 --> 01:39:51,660
in my experience of I do attend a lot of like music series and things like that throughout,

1324
01:39:51,840 --> 01:39:58,140
you know, Los Gatos, Campbell, here there. I frequent a lot of them and I do that for my own,

1325
01:39:59,660 --> 01:40:06,500
I've been doing it for years and I find that seasonally is usually better because if you're doing it

1326
01:40:06,500 --> 01:40:11,520
consistently over and over and over again, the crowd that you're going to draw is probably not as

1327
01:40:11,520 --> 01:40:14,200
significant as if it was, you need create FOMO.

1328
01:40:14,960 --> 01:40:16,700
So if it's like, you know, if it's just like,

1329
01:40:16,740 --> 01:40:20,240
for example, Goer Air, there's 39 music series

1330
01:40:20,240 --> 01:40:22,060
that John was X amount of weeks,

1331
01:40:22,800 --> 01:40:23,980
or even a Morgan Hello.

1332
01:40:24,200 --> 01:40:26,120
It's only for like, you know, a couple of weeks.

1333
01:40:26,800 --> 01:40:29,960
So I just think, so drives down cost

1334
01:40:29,960 --> 01:40:32,440
and bring your own chair, B-Y-O-C,

1335
01:40:33,020 --> 01:40:33,820
bring your own chair.

1336
01:40:33,960 --> 01:40:37,940
So that eliminate having to set that up all the time

1337
01:40:37,940 --> 01:40:39,060
and we have.

1338
01:40:40,020 --> 01:40:46,820
I'm just saying, as a guy who's literally pushed in all of the shows for EGLE's Elton John

1339
01:40:46,820 --> 01:40:53,040
Climony, Martin Damien, Martin Black Sabbath, it's the cost of setting up the infrastructure

1340
01:40:53,040 --> 01:40:57,960
that the band is on, which becomes the thing that we need to be identifying first.

1341
01:40:58,300 --> 01:41:03,080
So, if we wanted to do something like that, we would want to identify where our venue can

1342
01:41:03,080 --> 01:41:08,240
be utilized on a regular base, where we can leave up some semi-permanent staging that can

1343
01:41:08,240 --> 01:41:15,180
live there and where we have two phases of power with about 90 amps per that we can set

1344
01:41:15,180 --> 01:41:19,480
a band on that and then from there you're good, but we just got to identify where we have

1345
01:41:19,480 --> 01:41:24,740
that kind of power, where we have the place where we can level the stage and set up a semi-permanent

1346
01:41:24,740 --> 01:41:31,460
stage. Once you have that set up and that place, go for it. I would recommend doing concerts

1347
01:41:31,460 --> 01:41:36,680
around the 15th of the month. We saw the highest revenue return on any concert, whether it

1348
01:41:36,680 --> 01:41:40,600
was reggae or whether it was rock because at the first of the month everybody just paid rent.

1349
01:41:41,240 --> 01:41:45,760
At the last of the month everybody's saying I'd save it up to pay rent. That most expendable paycheck

1350
01:41:45,760 --> 01:41:50,620
is around the 15th of the month and you're going to see the highest return on people showing up to

1351
01:41:50,620 --> 01:41:54,760
your event because that's their burner of paycheck where they have the money to go out and do something.

1352
01:41:55,280 --> 01:41:59,960
So events that usually happen around the middle of the month tend to be more well-attemptive.

1353
01:42:03,370 --> 01:42:03,770
Awesome.

1354
01:42:04,710 --> 01:42:05,390
Good stuff.

1355
01:42:05,810 --> 01:42:10,410
I mean, any, I, I, well, I know this is mostly discussion, right?

1356
01:42:10,490 --> 01:42:13,530
We can get into staff and commission or reports to maybe make recommendations.

1357
01:42:15,770 --> 01:42:22,830
I think it would be a good idea to consider, like I mentioned, us being an entertainer

1358
01:42:22,830 --> 01:42:26,090
in the district, because that kind of creates, I think, the conversation I'm all these pieces

1359
01:42:26,090 --> 01:42:26,950
that you're talking about.

1360
01:42:26,950 --> 01:42:28,690
But it builds the bill for the entertainment.

1361
01:42:28,690 --> 01:42:30,770
if the city has to fit that bill,

1362
01:42:30,790 --> 01:42:32,750
the first thing we need to do is figure out a way to do it.

1363
01:42:33,030 --> 01:42:36,930
So an entertainment district is just a zoning change.

1364
01:42:37,050 --> 01:42:37,250
Gotcha.

1365
01:42:37,830 --> 01:42:39,750
Yeah, it's not like money for states,

1366
01:42:40,130 --> 01:42:40,810
just farming their city.

1367
01:42:40,810 --> 01:42:42,630
Not allowed to have to make noise to anybody else.

1368
01:42:42,690 --> 01:42:45,630
So for example, if we're looking at this current map right here,

1369
01:42:45,810 --> 01:42:49,210
so just as a prime example, if we take this to,

1370
01:42:49,350 --> 01:42:51,970
with a lot of AMC and we take it to council,

1371
01:42:53,170 --> 01:42:56,910
and for example, from fourth street down to seventh street,

1372
01:42:56,910 --> 01:43:01,990
e-street in Monterey. Let's just use this as an example. That would be our

1373
01:43:01,990 --> 01:43:05,890
entertainment district. So if we wanted to have an October vest, if we wanted

1374
01:43:05,890 --> 01:43:12,150
to incorporate doing like having all of our businesses and bars participate, you

1375
01:43:12,150 --> 01:43:18,090
have a wristband at Johnny and you card them. And then they can go ahead and take

1376
01:43:18,090 --> 01:43:21,850
that beer on to the next spot while we have vendors, right? So that would include

1377
01:43:21,850 --> 01:43:26,290
the noise as well as being able to carry a battery in their hand.

1378
01:43:28,450 --> 01:43:34,410
So the California ADC really kind of, and the PD would be to sign off on that because

1379
01:43:34,410 --> 01:43:37,330
that's a great area of walking around without a whole lot of stuff.

1380
01:43:37,410 --> 01:43:38,810
Right, so it would be mapped off.

1381
01:43:39,170 --> 01:43:43,810
So if you're having an event, if you're having an event, then it would be barricaded off

1382
01:43:43,810 --> 01:43:48,750
typically, or there would be security at the end of that district.

1383
01:43:48,750 --> 01:43:56,370
So for example, downtown San Jose recently did their entertainment district along with the Santanaro district.

1384
01:43:57,050 --> 01:44:05,870
What they did, it's so sorry, the sofa district, which is right on the line that were original Joseph and everybody's for Spanish.

1385
01:44:06,010 --> 01:44:09,150
Everybody's for Spanish, so Santanaro has done this as well.

1386
01:44:10,270 --> 01:44:14,490
And as much as it sounds complex, it's actually very beneficial.

1387
01:44:14,490 --> 01:44:18,930
So, you know, we're looking at other cities and larger cities with larger population.

1388
01:44:19,050 --> 01:44:20,530
Oh, no, for sure.

1389
01:44:20,730 --> 01:44:22,690
Like, really, so it's not going to be happy with it.

1390
01:44:23,070 --> 01:44:29,670
And ABC made me also a little, in California, I've found that the alcohol beverage control

1391
01:44:29,670 --> 01:44:34,850
is a little, depending on what they hear back from PD, as to whether or not they expect

1392
01:44:34,850 --> 01:44:38,650
there may be a problem or not, it really kind of comes down to permission to do that.

1393
01:44:38,650 --> 01:44:43,890
Yeah, I think so if you get insight off of it, then you would ultimately be consistent

1394
01:44:43,890 --> 01:44:50,790
and with Code Fire Department Police, ABC, it would be a district that defines the boundary

1395
01:44:50,790 --> 01:44:53,350
and also is for specific purposes.

1396
01:44:53,910 --> 01:44:59,510
And it would also inform code enforcement of any amendments that need to be made zoning.

1397
01:45:09,540 --> 01:45:29,360
So if we wanted to kind of, let's say, let's say switch up the wine and beer stroll, but also have vendors. So basically, we would have, let's just say our entertainment district in place. So they're going to come to your spot. They're going to go that you know, they're going to go down the street. And if they already have that respect, then they can continue with it. And they can move on to the next area. Or if we have like a farmer's market.

1398
01:45:29,360 --> 01:45:36,680
Or if we have a taste of Sam and you know that I would love to bring back all of it then we can actually walk around with our wine

1399
01:45:36,680 --> 01:45:40,740
You know downtown Campbell has a successful October Festival. You go to walk around with your beverage

1400
01:45:41,600 --> 01:45:47,960
Downtown Los Santos has been super successful. You know San Jose, so the district they just implemented it within a couple of months

1401
01:45:48,480 --> 01:45:52,540
And it and we know that that will drive people downtown

1402
01:45:52,540 --> 01:45:56,840
Yeah, I think the thing that it's gonna come down to and I cannot speak for the police department

1403
01:45:56,840 --> 01:46:03,740
But whose liability is it if somebody hands out the hall to a minor outside if that happens inside my venue

1404
01:46:03,740 --> 01:46:07,820
Then then it's my liability. So I'm gonna be watching it like the hawk the

1405
01:46:08,800 --> 01:46:12,680
I'm all for it. I just think that you may hear back from

1406
01:46:12,680 --> 01:46:18,560
My law enforcement that like well, who is then going to police making sure that I don't help us in the past

1407
01:46:18,560 --> 01:46:24,680
I'll always and that they that they add an increased cost of having some security there to police something like that

1408
01:46:29,560 --> 01:46:42,820
We need to keep it back into a little bit of focus here and then we need to take public comment and we can all the meeting.

1409
01:46:43,420 --> 01:46:44,480
Bill, what do you think?

1410
01:46:51,160 --> 01:46:55,820
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, no. So we can have public comment.

1411
01:46:56,720 --> 01:47:12,000
Uh, yeah, right now, 750. Go ahead, Chip. Um, Phil, go on. Again, straight. All these ideas are great. Not against anything. Peter. I kind of nine times lighting eight years ago. I went for the city council and said,

1412
01:47:12,000 --> 01:47:15,300
Hey, side streets, my street, no trees with tree lights.

1413
01:47:15,580 --> 01:47:18,860
I champion the cause, got it done for all the businesses

1414
01:47:18,860 --> 01:47:20,380
and everybody that's on the side streets.

1415
01:47:20,880 --> 01:47:23,800
So when you see the brickpapers and the shepherd poles,

1416
01:47:23,960 --> 01:47:26,220
I consider that to be the downtown district

1417
01:47:26,220 --> 01:47:28,680
and the city council realize that that's the downtown district.

1418
01:47:29,180 --> 01:47:31,840
I set a picture up there of downtown Disney

1419
01:47:32,540 --> 01:47:34,420
and the side streets, right?

1420
01:47:35,200 --> 01:47:36,240
Main street got everything.

1421
01:47:36,520 --> 01:47:38,200
They have all the lights, we get nothing,

1422
01:47:38,200 --> 01:47:41,860
or just like I said, you're not treating the same fashion.

1423
01:47:42,040 --> 01:47:44,100
So if Peter mentions eight time about lights,

1424
01:47:44,560 --> 01:47:46,720
I wanna see lights down on my side street

1425
01:47:46,720 --> 01:47:48,220
and I'm buttering my store as well

1426
01:47:48,220 --> 01:47:49,560
because I think it's only fair

1427
01:47:49,560 --> 01:47:51,340
that if we're doing everything for downtown,

1428
01:47:51,800 --> 01:47:53,400
we're still considered downtown district.

1429
01:47:53,580 --> 01:47:54,780
I just sometimes we feel neglected.

1430
01:47:55,420 --> 01:47:56,580
I speak it for a lot of people

1431
01:47:56,580 --> 01:47:57,680
because it couldn't be here tonight.

1432
01:47:58,140 --> 01:48:01,180
So as you go forward, again, great ideas.

1433
01:48:01,800 --> 01:48:02,800
We have our two events here.

1434
01:48:03,500 --> 01:48:05,360
Adam has events every year too as well.

1435
01:48:05,840 --> 01:48:07,440
We try to work with everybody as possible.

1436
01:48:07,440 --> 01:48:09,140
Sometimes, you know, it's individual.

1437
01:48:09,200 --> 01:48:10,600
You get 2,000 people for pre-com.

1438
01:48:10,740 --> 01:48:11,280
It's great.

1439
01:48:11,700 --> 01:48:14,920
In the meantime, just don't forget about the other businesses

1440
01:48:14,920 --> 01:48:16,840
because everybody's going downtown.

1441
01:48:17,060 --> 01:48:18,120
They have the parklets, the lights.

1442
01:48:18,860 --> 01:48:19,960
We get the street closures.

1443
01:48:19,960 --> 01:48:20,920
We get no lights.

1444
01:48:21,180 --> 01:48:23,180
So make sure with your point to everybody

1445
01:48:23,700 --> 01:48:26,340
that you just make sure that don't forget about us.

1446
01:48:26,540 --> 01:48:27,260
We have the papers.

1447
01:48:27,540 --> 01:48:28,440
We have the shepherd lights.

1448
01:48:28,800 --> 01:48:30,940
And we're not treated in the same fashion.

1449
01:48:31,180 --> 01:48:34,200
So make sure it is Christina Butter about the lights

1450
01:48:34,200 --> 01:48:36,500
to connect to God to get my trees trimmed.

1451
01:48:36,500 --> 01:48:49,800
What did I do? I got a guy to come and do them $500 fine because I call the city over and over. Take care of your cretin mertles. Our lights are secure lights. I'm not picking up the people that are defecating on my sidewalk or leading the garbage.

1452
01:48:50,860 --> 01:49:01,460
I don't know if I can reach up our own lights one time. I could just erupt around $200 per minute fine. So in the meantime the city has a lot of hand cupping. So make sure when you do things you do the right way.

1453
01:49:01,460 --> 01:49:06,280
But in the meantime, we're just trying to do it our way and if we don't hear it, we try to do it on our own

1454
01:49:06,280 --> 01:49:09,540
But as for the lights, we have outside lights

1455
01:49:09,540 --> 01:49:13,500
They are not visible because of the great murder trees the city planet

1456
01:49:13,500 --> 01:49:17,280
Alex four is great, but he says one of three days three year rotation

1457
01:49:17,280 --> 01:49:21,820
Those trees are growing every year so in the meantime lights

1458
01:49:23,920 --> 01:49:29,440
Chamber of Commerce whatever tell people that the city can come by and trim them yearly at least

1459
01:49:29,440 --> 01:49:32,960
because that's a problem. We have the lights, but we can't see anything.

1460
01:49:33,520 --> 01:49:36,440
So at the meantime, I'm just trying to let everybody know that all these ideas are great,

1461
01:49:36,780 --> 01:49:40,800
but just don't forget about everybody else because on Main Street, I know we get

1462
01:49:41,320 --> 01:49:44,820
theater traffic, we're getting the traffic, everything's going on. It's good.

1463
01:49:45,300 --> 01:49:49,180
But when you close the streets off, that says you're trying to close,

1464
01:49:49,420 --> 01:49:53,080
but you're not really open. So in the meantime, so make sure it's open and

1465
01:49:53,080 --> 01:49:57,980
it's lights are going on and the side streets and the poorest streets are still getting the same thing as downtown.

1466
01:49:57,980 --> 01:50:02,200
Yeah, that's all just what the same thing as everybody else would want just like Peter for your business

1467
01:50:02,200 --> 01:50:08,540
They're the else not against anything. Just want to make sure that when you take these forward that you may don't forget about us to

1468
01:50:09,460 --> 01:50:14,860
Wait for that time. So thank you. Thank you. All right. Thankfully, we're not politicians. We're also a business owner

1469
01:50:18,900 --> 01:50:25,940
So yeah, um, we're we're closing off this final thoughts

1470
01:50:25,940 --> 01:50:33,040
I appreciate everything that was said, buying is very important, I do believe that's going to be part of the conversation.

1471
01:50:34,740 --> 01:50:38,040
Obviously, disclosures to the business community to create that buy-in.

1472
01:50:39,340 --> 01:50:50,140
I think that's a safety measure as well, it's all so important to like the side streets because I was just thinking that it's one thing to have one street where everything's lit, but a lot of the people are parking on those side streets.

1473
01:50:50,140 --> 01:50:58,160
And if I've got somebody with me that doesn't feel comfortable where we're parking, I'm very unlikely to get that person to return with me.

1474
01:50:58,620 --> 01:51:05,160
So if we can make the entirety of downtown and it extends out to the side streets where people park well lit and to feel safe,

1475
01:51:05,400 --> 01:51:09,760
that reduces the load on the police to be able to have the need to have that presence.

1476
01:51:10,080 --> 01:51:12,860
It also helps them identify suspects that they're looking for them.

1477
01:51:13,280 --> 01:51:16,960
And that was one of our major selling points when we started putting in the lighting anyway.

1478
01:51:16,960 --> 01:51:20,560
is it's a lot easier to see what's going on and people don't like to do

1479
01:51:20,560 --> 01:51:24,780
shade and things where there's less shade. Yeah yeah yeah there's that's a

1480
01:51:24,780 --> 01:51:28,020
really good point I know there's some dark spots in between streets and in

1481
01:51:28,020 --> 01:51:32,900
alleys actually big dark spots bad things could easily happen or even like just

1482
01:51:32,900 --> 01:51:38,020
homeless folks doing things they shouldn't be doing in these alleys so all really

1483
01:51:38,020 --> 01:51:42,440
good stuff this is obviously getting into the weeds but to the point feeding into

1484
01:51:42,440 --> 01:51:46,120
the parking area I think this lighting is going to be very very important so

1485
01:51:46,120 --> 01:51:49,440
So if no one else has any other thoughts, I'd like to close this item.

1486
01:51:49,620 --> 01:51:54,040
But we really should hopefully we're taking good notes because this is all good stuff

1487
01:51:54,040 --> 01:51:54,640
and we can follow.

1488
01:51:54,640 --> 01:51:57,140
I know he said, I think we're back in one more time to save the play.

1489
01:51:58,320 --> 01:51:58,460
Yeah.

1490
01:51:58,860 --> 01:51:59,000
Yeah.

1491
01:51:59,460 --> 01:52:04,000
I think that's probably the biggest thing that we could do, but if there's any stronger recommendation

1492
01:52:04,000 --> 01:52:05,020
I could make from it.

1493
01:52:05,020 --> 01:52:06,080
Lighting will be the catalyst.

1494
01:52:06,400 --> 01:52:08,060
That would have to be the top priority.

1495
01:52:08,520 --> 01:52:10,640
It would be the catalyst of a lot of good stuff.

1496
01:52:10,640 --> 01:52:28,680
So on the item number six, staff and commissioner reports, this is where you're reporting not anything that you final thoughts, but I know for me, I want to recommend that we basically ask the city council to consider this, you know, the rally itself.

1497
01:52:28,680 --> 01:52:41,660
I also want, hopefully, they would be amenable to us wanting to get a little bit more into the details of all these conversations, which I think why we should have more than one meeting a quarter.

1498
01:52:41,840 --> 01:52:46,900
I know it's staff time. I get it. I understand. But yeah, we want to see some serious change.

1499
01:52:47,640 --> 01:52:55,680
I just know for me when I'm too far away from my business, things start to fall apart. And I think this is the business of the community that we want to do.

1500
01:52:55,680 --> 01:53:00,080
So those are my thoughts, and if you could just take a picture of me back here looking

1501
01:53:00,080 --> 01:53:07,500
all official and everything like that, so I think I could recommend if we could agree

1502
01:53:07,500 --> 01:53:12,320
that, I mean at least just kind of schedule a special meeting for next month, I think in

1503
01:53:12,320 --> 01:53:20,940
all fairness again, I would like to give the business community an opportunity to be able

1504
01:53:20,940 --> 01:53:30,820
understand what we're doing while we're doing. I would like to recommend if we can actually schedule a special meeting for next month so we can catch all of our businesses up to speed.

1505
01:53:31,780 --> 01:53:40,940
So we all have an understanding of where we're going from here and an understanding of our goals and how big of an importance it is for them to be here.

1506
01:53:41,120 --> 01:53:48,000
And I think for them not being here today, I don't want them to feel left out. I don't want them to feel that they didn't have a say.

1507
01:53:48,000 --> 01:53:52,560
so we can really market it. I would like to send it out to my businesses and my members

1508
01:53:52,560 --> 01:53:59,580
as well as I'm sure Omar just between us alone we could tackle at least you know five to

1509
01:53:59,580 --> 01:54:06,540
600 businesses to be able to at least give them an opportunity to attend. It would be possible to

1510
01:54:06,540 --> 01:54:11,020
have some sort of a printed thing that says what our next meeting is and with a little capture thing

1511
01:54:11,020 --> 01:54:16,440
down there that gives people all of the appropriate links and signs their phone up for text messages

1512
01:54:16,440 --> 01:54:17,340
and things like that.

1513
01:54:17,660 --> 01:54:19,360
I don't know if we have the infrastructure to do that,

1514
01:54:19,740 --> 01:54:21,920
but if we do have a thing that lets them know,

1515
01:54:22,460 --> 01:54:23,200
there's a meeting.

1516
01:54:23,460 --> 01:54:25,780
I'd be happy to hand walk each one of those things

1517
01:54:25,780 --> 01:54:28,020
and then get people to try if they're connected.

1518
01:54:28,280 --> 01:54:30,660
So they know when these meetings are and how to participate.

1519
01:54:31,080 --> 01:54:34,060
Again, unfortunately, we don't have a lot of,

1520
01:54:34,600 --> 01:54:36,460
we don't have control of resources.

1521
01:54:36,920 --> 01:54:39,020
I appreciate the suggestions.

1522
01:54:39,900 --> 01:54:41,600
One of the first things we can do

1523
01:54:41,600 --> 01:54:42,880
is just by wearing a mouth,

1524
01:54:42,880 --> 01:54:48,900
getting out that there is an active business advisory commission now because

1525
01:54:49,520 --> 01:54:52,940
before I got assigned to administer it I don't believe it's ever met.

1526
01:54:53,400 --> 01:54:56,480
No, I mean I had our first meeting in June.

1527
01:54:57,520 --> 01:55:04,000
You know, unfortunately, everybody takes the month of July off and so now we're here at August.

1528
01:55:04,220 --> 01:55:05,780
This was the next regular meeting.

1529
01:55:05,780 --> 01:55:14,080
I think there are certain time frames where a special meeting makes sense because of

1530
01:55:14,780 --> 01:55:21,180
We're going to recommend on certain items.

1531
01:55:22,920 --> 01:55:29,880
To your point, Jeff, I agree I think if we can maybe make a recommendation for a special meeting next month

1532
01:55:30,820 --> 01:55:36,700
and add, you know, potential considerations going into the fall and maybe just some simple

1533
01:55:36,700 --> 01:55:45,320
items like maybe being that we can ask the City Council to consider lighting or what that

1534
01:55:45,320 --> 01:55:48,700
would take. I don't know if that was just an administrative task or we have to get them

1535
01:55:48,700 --> 01:55:51,020
to vote on to support that or not.

1536
01:55:51,020 --> 01:56:00,700
So quickly do some rise then I'm hearing every question from the Commission to do another special meeting next month and include again.

1537
01:56:01,600 --> 01:56:07,420
Business input on the rally so that we can.

1538
01:56:07,740 --> 01:56:13,280
Or engage and especially get closer to those October type events.

1539
01:56:13,680 --> 01:56:19,320
We can get a lot more participation from the individual business owners and allow them to.

1540
01:56:19,320 --> 01:56:21,500
to bring some other resources to the table.

1541
01:56:21,820 --> 01:56:23,980
I mean, would it be possible actually,

1542
01:56:24,140 --> 01:56:25,600
if we do have that officially,

1543
01:56:26,300 --> 01:56:28,600
then once we get a date certain, right,

1544
01:56:28,800 --> 01:56:30,300
whatever that looks, next month,

1545
01:56:30,580 --> 01:56:32,900
to be able to have a special meeting,

1546
01:56:33,260 --> 01:56:35,460
you do it on the same day.

1547
01:56:35,460 --> 01:56:36,140
So that's the case.

1548
01:56:36,340 --> 01:56:37,880
It's the Wednesday date you would have

1549
01:56:38,480 --> 01:56:40,340
for your regular meeting, so soon,

1550
01:56:40,860 --> 01:56:42,280
in this case, for doing it,

1551
01:56:42,300 --> 01:56:43,440
it would be the second one,

1552
01:56:43,640 --> 01:56:44,180
instead of the month.

1553
01:56:44,880 --> 01:56:48,100
So we do that, then can we maybe get the chamber

1554
01:56:48,960 --> 01:56:53,940
That's not going to be, that's not going to work because I've got an airport advisory position.

1555
01:56:54,180 --> 01:56:55,640
What about the 16th of September?

1556
01:56:58,460 --> 01:57:01,120
Does he know where the 3rd?

1557
01:57:01,120 --> 01:57:02,020
See where the 3rd.

1558
01:57:02,040 --> 01:57:03,120
It's actually the 3rd Wednesday.

1559
01:57:03,260 --> 01:57:04,760
Where the 3rd Wednesday, right?

1560
01:57:05,420 --> 01:57:05,580
Yes.

1561
01:57:06,160 --> 01:57:09,260
The next meeting was in September 16th.

1562
01:57:09,600 --> 01:57:12,140
September 16th.

1563
01:57:13,580 --> 01:57:14,840
Does it have to be a Wednesday?

1564
01:57:16,240 --> 01:57:18,520
Well, typically it's supposed to be one of the same day.

1565
01:57:27,080 --> 01:57:36,020
And then I think so too. I mean, my recommendation is going to make us to see if we can get something to be able to message to the business community.

1566
01:57:36,560 --> 01:57:40,840
If you guys were able to create, because all it is is really the links to the agenda.

1567
01:57:41,920 --> 01:57:49,380
and then ultimately somehow what we actually need is we actually need somebody to manage in e-mail

1568
01:57:49,380 --> 01:57:56,500
blast list for your community businesses and then when the staff sends out the

1569
01:57:56,500 --> 01:58:01,880
agenda package you won't afford it to the blast list. That's where that that's where that

1570
01:58:01,880 --> 01:58:08,600
capture thing could come in. There is the way for the people to sign up to get

1571
01:58:08,600 --> 01:58:17,540
notifications about agendas. Right now specifically to council agendas, but we could contact them to create.

1572
01:58:18,500 --> 01:58:23,840
All of them is because this can be just a flyer with links and I think the Chamber of the either or to the HDA can.

1573
01:58:24,400 --> 01:58:26,700
We could do those, yeah. We already have a system in place.

1574
01:58:26,700 --> 01:58:36,720
We have a system in place already, which we have it to over 4,000 emails as well as our current Chamber members, which we send information to.

1575
01:58:36,720 --> 01:58:38,780
so we can do that.

1576
01:58:40,280 --> 01:58:41,740
I don't mind.

1577
01:58:42,040 --> 01:58:43,640
I would love to have our businesses here.

1578
01:58:43,660 --> 01:58:45,980
If you'll print me up about 50 pieces of paper

1579
01:58:45,980 --> 01:58:48,020
that say what we're trying to do with that little capture thing

1580
01:58:48,020 --> 01:58:49,840
down there that allows us to look at so early,

1581
01:58:50,080 --> 01:58:51,200
updates, and everything like that.

1582
01:58:51,340 --> 01:58:52,880
I will hand walk them to each business

1583
01:58:52,880 --> 01:58:53,780
and get more people involved.

1584
01:58:54,040 --> 01:58:55,480
We each carry a newsletter,

1585
01:58:56,120 --> 01:58:56,900
a chamber in HDA,

1586
01:58:57,040 --> 01:58:59,560
so I will be more than happy to send out that information.

1587
01:58:59,560 --> 01:59:00,520
You know what's inside of the street?

1588
01:59:00,620 --> 01:59:01,920
You're covering, and I'll cover the up.

1589
01:59:02,360 --> 01:59:03,480
So we'll meet in the middle.

1590
01:59:03,920 --> 01:59:05,660
We'll meet in the middle.

1591
01:59:08,340 --> 01:59:14,620
Yeah, so I think we're pretty well wrapped up there pretty much done. So I know I'm not

1592
01:59:14,620 --> 01:59:20,480
supposed to get a vote for a German, but yeah, it's eight o'clock, eight o'clock. It was

1593
01:59:20,480 --> 01:59:23,980
hoping to end at eight to make it a good time. Either way, it's really good discussion.

1594
01:59:24,940 --> 01:59:29,260
Hopefully we're energized for next month. Thank you, everybody, for attending for officially adjourned.

1595
01:59:29,380 --> 01:59:29,960
Thank you.