[0:05] So, did anybody speak?
>> No.
[0:12] » Yeah, last night.
>> Well, this isn't So, this is an odd
[0:17] start. Usually meetings start at 6:30,
start
[0:23] this one back.
>> They're all six now.
[0:26] » They're all at six for the village.
>> Okay. All
[0:41] right. Could be daylight savings time.
[0:54] » Well, we'll uh we'll start. We'll bring
this meeting to order
[1:01] at 60.
[1:05] All right. Pledge of allegiance.
[1:10] Pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the
[1:16] stands nation
[1:22] for all.
All
[1:31] right, roll call please.
>> Interpreting
[1:36] » here.
>> McCanny
[1:38] » here.
>> Wendell
[1:40] and Zelfie
>> here.
[1:42] » Kikos
Hutton
[1:44] » here. Cullis.
[1:48] » Okay.
We have a message from
[1:54] motion to excuse.
>> Second motion.
[2:01] » Motion second.
All those in favor say I.
[2:14] Did we
already asked this but inside the
[2:19] meeting? So any information from Mr.
Wendle?
[2:22] » No. Any information from Mr.
>> No. Okay.
[2:32] Changes in approval of agenda.
[2:39] Motion to approve the agenda.
>> I make motion to approve the agenda.
[2:45] » Second by
second.
[3:02] All right. All those in favor
[3:08] passes.
[3:12] » Approval of minutes from December 11th,
2025.
[3:19] » Sounds strange already. It's 2025. Seems
like a year ago.
[3:23] » Yes.
[3:28] » Still writing 2025.
[3:40] I'll make a motion to accept the
minutes.
[3:43] » I'll second it.
>> Thank you. So, we have a motion. We have
[3:49] seconded. All those in favor say I.
>> I.
[3:52] » I.
>> All those opposed?
[3:57] » Good. Motion passes.
Statement of Bureau. The purpose The
[4:02] mission of the Holly Historic District
Commission is to safeguard the heritage
[4:05] of the village of Holl by preserving the
historic district in the village that
[4:10] reflects the elements of the village's
history, architecture, archaeology,
[4:15] engineering, or culture. The goal of the
commission's work is to stabilize and
[4:20] improve the property values in the
historic districts and the surrounding
[4:24] areas, foster civic beauty, strengthen
the local economy, and promote the use
[4:30] of historic districts for the education,
pleasure, and welfare of the citizens of
[4:36] Holly.
[4:41] All right, moving on to public comment.
[4:47] Seeing none, guess we're just moving on.
[4:53] Okay. Up to old business.
Um I have no other information in the
[5:00] package. So I imagine we have no
information on these two properties.
[5:03] Application 254
and 252.
[5:09] » Yes. And
[5:17] I I just know like for 208 South Broad
you guys had said that they didn't need
[5:22] to come in front of HDC for that.
for the wheelchair ramp
[5:27] » and I'm hearing from our side other you
guys are supposed to
[5:33] » but
[5:38] issue came up as a clarification
question
[5:54] structure
came in front of the HDC
[5:59] and now it's a wood
structure
[6:06] for an administrative approval even
though it's wheelchair. We were just
[6:10] kind of curious
question, you know, are we being
[6:15] consistent?
Is there a difference between how we're
[6:20] looking and approving things? Those
types of questions.
[6:26] » Oh, okay.
I'm sorry. No, go ahead. I know it's an
[6:30] ADA issue as well.
>> Yeah, it's ADA
[6:35] and we'll So, additions and changes to
historic buildings
[6:40] can be done. Additions can be added on
to them. Um the only rules are it has to
[6:47] fit within the district's theme and
feel, but it can't be made to look like
[6:53] it was old.
It needs to be obviously of new
[6:58] materials so that when somebody is
walking around the building, uh they can
[7:03] obviously see that this was added
sometime after the original construction
[7:08] of building. That's the only rule. Now,
it's a wheelchair ramp. So, it's
[7:13] obviously
[7:20] when wheelchairs No, that's 1910.
>> Yeah, wheelchair ramps.
[7:27] » So, it's obviously a new a new piece to
the structure.
[7:30] The only hope would be that uh they
choose one that um is aesthetically
[7:36] pleasing to the community, but there's
really not much we can
[7:42] say yay or nay on because it's ADA
compliance.
[7:45] It's got a pitch and length and all
kinds of different
[7:51] construction.
So consistency in the future
[7:58] is a wheelchair something
[8:02] that should be administrative
>> that should be administrative.
[8:06] » So wheelchair ramps can be
administrative.
[8:09] Yes.
[8:12] And that was approved
>> until we approve.
[8:15] » Right. Well, but that was approved not
because of match but based on
[8:23] reach that
not that it meets that criter
[8:35] any other thing.
accepted whatever
[8:42] you
>> I don't have it.
[8:45] » So it was originally concrete or
[9:03] » Yes.
[9:06] Oh, wow. We have that. It's nice.
[9:19] » I believe that was in November.
Um, and the wheelchair ramp wasn't
[9:24] originally a part of the
rebuild. Um, so the concrete um like a
[9:33] concrete landing off the building with
some stairs and then they brought the um
[9:39] wheelchair ramp back before us because
they were changing their plans. Um but
[9:44] then we said that because it's a
compiance issue with ADA that it
[9:48] shouldn't be the historic district that
approves it and I had only mentioned
[9:52] that um the swing of the door seemed off
to me because it was swinging
[9:58] um out but it would block the ramp. So
somebody in a wheelchair wheel out,
[10:04] close the door, and then go down the
wooden rail and the if I remember the
[10:09] pictures correctly, it like sort of
zigzagged so that it would fit in that
[10:13] spot near that back alley. But um so
financially, I don't think um a concrete
[10:22] ramp would even or I don't know, even
like for looks, I don't think a concrete
[10:27] ramp the way they have to like zigzag it
would
[10:30] » even be very
appropriate the
[10:35] » be
so I think the the wooden ramp is
[10:39] appropriate and like we said in November
that I don't think it's an issue that
[10:44] » well the original plan has for a wood
frame for the ramp with TX or timberline
[10:51] composite deck railing or decking
surface the handrail will be aluminum so
[10:56] it never rusts that's what's on there
[11:03] I have the photos,
[11:12] » but their plans in September.
[11:25] Nice.
[11:29] Okay.
Any other discussions?
[11:44] » We can do it again.
>> Send it again.
[11:47] » I'll make a motion to send it back.
>> All right. So, we have a we have a
[11:50] motion from Mr.
>> I'll second it.
[11:53] » And we have a second.
Let's get back up.
[11:59] » Yes.
>> Wonderful.
[12:02] » Um, all those in favor
>> and all those opposed.
[12:10] » I didn't think I give you a chance to
the
[12:18] » No. Okay.
>> All right. So, we move on to general
[12:23] business.
collection of officers.
[12:28] All right. Um,
since we're missing three,
[12:34] I guess there's nobody here to defend
themselves. So, uh,
[12:42] should we actually do that?
But there's what is so in the villages
[12:48] uh bylaws and or ordinances when do
elections of the officers
[12:56] have to be done?
Do they call it out in January like they
[13:02] do at the township?
[13:09] » Yes.
[13:13] » Yeah, that was cancelled.
[13:25] January. Yes.
[13:48] I am I have the historic district
commission
[13:53] right now
or trying to see if it is actually
[13:58] called
[14:18] I do not see
[14:26] nice old fashion used to do this back in
the 1900s. Print out all the
[14:43] I'm tempted not to vote on those, but I
just want to make sure that we're not
[14:47] going to get into
[14:51] historic commission jail.
[15:03] All right.
So while we're doing that,
[15:27] » we have a quorum so we can
>> Yeah. Can we delay it one month for a
[15:31] better attendance?
[15:44] Looking to see if I have any training
materials.
[16:00] » Robert's rules.
>> Mr. I text
[16:05] and I will go back to my ordinances.
[16:34] It's already 5 years old.
[16:41] The only presentations I have on standby
is the Michigan Historic
[16:47] Preservation Tax Credit from 2021.
you guys find that interesting.
[16:54] » So point of order, we either have to get
a motion on the table or motion
[17:01] to proceed
with the officers.
[17:09] I'll let me do this. I'll make a motion
to
[17:13] uh maintain the all the officers in
their current positions.
[17:20] I'll second it.
>> Okay.
[17:21] » Okay.
>> Now, we can't discuss it properly.
[17:25] » All right.
>> So, is there
[17:29] » Well, I checked your record. You did a
very good job as secretary last year.
[17:34] Outstanding. Outstanding. Five stars.
>> Okay.
[17:39] » No dearits.
>> No demarits.
[17:42] » No demerits for you either.
>> Oh, vice chair.
[17:45] » That's right. I am vice chair.
>> Yeah.
[17:49] All right, we'll we'll upgrade your
parking spot any anywhere out there.
[17:56] » And then uh did we have a secretary on
deck? Secretary,
[18:02] » survey says,
>> "Oh, okay."
[18:08] » All right. Be safe.
[18:15] » Just for review, who were um
Who were the
[18:20] » officers last year?
>> I was secretary, vice chair. George is
[18:24] chair.
>> I don't think we have secretary.
[18:27] » Yeah, I was.
>> Well, you're secretary.
[18:29] » I'm secretary. That's all. That's all
the officers
[18:35] » because we we do not have a treasure.
So,
[18:38] » yeah, we have no budget.
[18:42] » If we had a budget,
[18:48] All right. Any further discussion?
>> Um, was Mr.
[18:58] » Well, he can.
>> Well, let's ask
[19:01] » he's not here to defend himself. I think
we can just
[19:04] » we can just vote
>> anyone if if we make the vote and
[19:09] » well he protests
>> he can always step down for that office
[19:14] if he's too busy or something else
>> you know what I mean anyone can say I'm
[19:20] sorry but you know then we reelect that
officer
[19:26] » that position
>> I do not wish to hold an officer
[19:28] position so
[19:33] You get a parking spot anywhere else.
>> I might have parked in somebody's
[19:38] parking spot because I I have front
roll. So,
[19:40] » well, you and I both walk somewhere. So,
we give ourselves
[19:45] » You're across the street and I'm two
blocks away. So,
[19:51] » what are those?
>> Okay. So we have a motion on deck for to
[19:58] maintain the original set of officers
for this coming year 2026.
[20:04] » I'll make the motion to um
maintain the officers of Mr. Cullis
[20:10] being chair Mr. McCann being vice chair
and Mr. Tony being secretary
[20:19] second.
All right. All those in favor
[20:24] » I
>> I All those opposed
[20:29] hearing motion passes.
>> Commission and staff comment.
[20:43] » I do not have a comment.
>> No comments. Okay.
[20:45] » No comment. I'll be
>> I have a question but I don't know if
[20:51] It's really historic
question. Um
[20:57] because I my house is in the historic
district I guess. Um you know we had a
[21:05] lot of repairs from tornado damage and
this summer we have to finish our last
[21:12] portion of it which is touching up all
paint
[21:17] on the whole house. Now am I going to
have to
[21:21] like permits for that or does anybody
know?
[21:25] » No.
>> Okay.
[21:27] » The historic district in Holly does not
have a color palette.
[21:31] » Okay. Well, we're keeping the same color
because we had just painted it not too
[21:36] long ago, but it just has to have
touchups from repairs,
[21:42] so we don't need it.
>> Thank you.
[21:47] » Happy painting.
I had a company paint house and they're
[21:52] gonna come back.
>> Oh, they are. Oh, okay. I was going to
[21:54] say if you need advice, you can call and
do a little bit of paint.
[22:00] » Awesome. Well, that's good. It's just
wrapping up because usually paint is the
[22:03] last touches.
That's awesome.
[22:06] » Yeah.
[22:19] We're still in a battle with ours.
[22:30] » All right, Mr. Chip.
>> Well, yeah, comments. Are
[22:34] » you done?
>> I was do I think that
[22:39] moving the Union Depot was very
positive thing for our community
[22:46] and there was a special for that. But we
also as historic district was involved
[22:55] with that. So we helped with the grants.
[23:01] Actually I was on the tri county
as a conductor.
[23:06] So
>> yeah during one of the main thing the
[23:12] federal because we won the federal
uh grant was going on at the same time
[23:19] across the nation and we actually won
this part where
[23:24] six figures came to help towards that
move. So I think that's good and I also
[23:30] comment on Holly Hotel is that it seems
to posted that they are starting to
[23:38] renovate the place. So I think that's
positive for the community too. I think
[23:44] that what we see downtown is very
important
[23:50] to the history of this community.
People don't realize I don't think that
[23:56] the village of Holly when the trains
first hit the ground. Uh the richest
[24:04] city in Michigan was Detroit and the
second richest city in Michigan was
[24:10] Holl.
don't realize that right out at the uh
[24:17] Capo Park is where all the bombers came
and sold their goods
[24:22] to people who put him on the train and
shipped them across the country
[24:27] from here. So,
keeping this intact, that's why I'm on
[24:32] this committee to keep this going
community going positive as it can be.
[24:40] So,
[24:43] So I'm I'm really happy with both those
outcomes working
[24:48] and I want to open too.
>> So it's good too.
[24:55] » Thank you.
[24:59] » I don't have any comments.
The depot is is good. The uh it's funny
[25:05] when you go down to where it used to be
and you look left you go, "Oh, there's
[25:10] no building there."
>> And as you're coming down Broad Street,
[25:13] you go, "Wow, there's a building there."
[25:17] » It does.
>> It does.
[25:18] » It doesn't look that big.
>> No. Back then, it looks like a little
[25:22] st,
>> right?
[25:23] » Um, so it's I think it's a great
addition to that spot. There used to be
[25:28] a building there when I first moved
here. There was a little antique store
[25:31] on that site. Had no had no water. Two
strikes
[25:37] but it did have power but had no water
but it was a little antique store and
[25:44] they raised that and now it looks like
it's nice. I like the bias of the It's
[25:50] not straight.
[25:54] So hopefully we'll get some more
renovation on that. It'll come to life
[25:57] by Dickens Festival next year.
I know that they're working on it in
[26:01] stages, but I was just thinking um when
you mentioned Tri County Times, um
[26:06] here's an idea. Uh just to get some like
promotion of the depot now that it's
[26:11] been moved is to maybe beautify the
outside a little bit just with some
[26:15] landscaping by prom because I know that
all the kids go to the alley to get
[26:19] pictures and so you know the can
be a part of that as far as senior
[26:27] pictures and pictures. if we just like
put a little money into I know it's not
[26:31] the historic district but just as a
village put a little bit of money into
[26:36] um just making the immediate surrounding
of the depot um pretty
[26:45] » uh
>> Thursday
[26:47] no we have time um I'll maybe mention
this idea to manager
[26:53] I know that he'll like get the right
people involved but uh I don't know
[26:58] » usually I think it's
>> the end of May, beginning of June
[27:03] because I know that like when the depot
was set back,
[27:14] » yeah, when they get it inside is just
fantastic. It's really in excellent
[27:20] shape.
So when the village gets that going and
[27:24] gets it open to the public, it's going
to be a great place for events.
[27:30] » Yeah.
>> That we have not had
[27:34] » you know it's going to be fantastic. So
>> I took a tour of it one time in the past
[27:44] at least during special events or
something.
[27:48] I don't know. I remember it was really
neat.
[27:51] » Yeah. Before they had to have the trains
blocked
[27:55] » all directions.
>> Okay.
[27:57] » For at least eight hours.
>> Okay. To go
[28:01] » to be able to go in. That's why it was
moved. So now you walk right across
[28:05] Broad Street.
>> Okay.
[28:07] » And not cross the track to
>> to go in. So
[28:13] » it was also one of the first or the only
dual
[28:18] train
[28:22] on each side.
[28:29] » I heard they're going to try to
[28:34] » reape.
[28:51] All right.
[28:57] » There's nothing else.
>> I make a motion to
[29:02] dismiss.
>> Motion to dismiss the meeting. Any
[29:07] seconds?
>> I'll second it.
[29:09] » We got a second.
All those in favor?
[29:14] » I
motion Meeting adjourned.
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