1 00:00:23,039 --> 00:00:26,199 Go ahead. 2 00:00:27,279 --> 00:00:37,719 » All right. Uh, call a meeting to order for the village zoning board, uh, 6 pm. 3 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:37,719 Uh, Dan, can you please read the notice? 4 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:44,320 It is hereby given that the village of Homer's zone board of appeals will be in 5 00:00:42,559 --> 00:00:48,960 person at the town hall in Homer located 31 North Main Street on October 23rd, 6 00:00:46,480 --> 00:00:54,480 2025 at 6 p.m. to consider the following pursuant to the current village of Homer 7 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:58,160 code of ordinances. Appeal number 5155 King Street 8 00:00:56,480 --> 00:01:03,760 replacement area variance for a non-conforming structure. Appeal 516 Pen 9 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:08,159 Park Avenue home occupation area of variance to use more square footage than 10 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:12,240 allowed. Thank you, sir. 11 00:01:10,159 --> 00:01:18,560 Uh, all right. Take them in order. So, appeal number 515. Uh, Bruce Adams. All 12 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:24,495 right. Uh, usually we start off, we have you kind of give us an explanation of 13 00:01:20,479 --> 00:01:28,560 what you're looking for or Oh, sure. [clears throat] 14 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:34,960 Good evening, Ford. Uh, so my wife and I live in my wife's grandparents house. uh 15 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:39,280 her grandfather had built uh what is the current garage many years ago. Uh and 16 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:45,119 they basically built it with no foundation, just right on the dirt. It 17 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:51,600 is failing. Uh so I'm looking to put up a uh new garage that will be visually in 18 00:01:48,399 --> 00:01:55,920 keeping with the house. Uh and as you can see on the same footprint, it's a 19 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:59,680 small lot. Uh I've talked with all the neighbors. They're fine with that. I 20 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:04,079 think frankly they'd love to see something better looking in there. Uh so 21 00:02:02,479 --> 00:02:10,080 that's that's what I'm looking for. And it will be a uh whole building style but 22 00:02:07,439 --> 00:02:14,720 with sheeping and uh sighting to match my house. 23 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:16,720 » Okay. Uh Dan, was there any public comment or read in emails or anything 24 00:02:16,319 --> 00:02:19,520 like that? >> Nope. 25 00:02:17,920 --> 00:02:26,640 » Yeah. >> Um question on board. Um well you've got 26 00:02:23,599 --> 00:02:35,680 that the footprint is little little wider little shorter over 27 00:02:30,879 --> 00:02:43,840 » it is exactly as wide and uh the the uh >> the red line is okay. 28 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:49,920 » Yeah. Uh and uh it is uh as deep as it was when that survey was taken. Uh it's 29 00:02:46,640 --> 00:02:53,519 actually 8 ft deeper than the current building. Uh there was a little uh 30 00:02:51,920 --> 00:02:58,080 basically a chicken coupoop on the back of that that was removed some time ago, 31 00:02:55,200 --> 00:03:02,400 but again it is within the same footprint that has been on that uh 32 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:08,159 property for many many years. >> What about height? 33 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:14,480 » Uh it will have 8 foot ceiling and a uh and because it's only 16 foot wide, it's 34 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:18,000 not that tall of a building. Uh our house is a two-story building, so it 35 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,599 would be significantly shorter than that. 36 00:03:18,319 --> 00:03:21,840 » It won't have a >> Oh, no. 37 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:24,159 No, my house has a flat. >> No, the garage 38 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:28,920 » the garage will have will have a standard roof. 39 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:28,920 » I got it. Sorry. 40 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:36,920 » Change the timeline this week. >> Okay. 41 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:42,840 » So, we just got started. 42 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:46,319 » Hate to ask you to do it, but just one. Could you just 43 00:03:45,519 --> 00:03:50,159 » uh This one >> 20 second spiel for my absolutely. This 44 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:53,840 is a one-year-old now. >> This is Yeah. The first one we're 45 00:03:51,599 --> 00:04:00,640 talking about the garage. This is the drawing for it. 46 00:03:56,400 --> 00:04:04,319 » Uh so my wife and I live in what had been 47 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:09,519 » her grandparents house too. >> And the uh the garage was built by her 48 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:14,560 grandfather many years ago without a foundation. Simply hemlock on the dirt. 49 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:19,040 It is failing. Uh we'd like to replace it with a new structure. uh one that 50 00:04:17,359 --> 00:04:24,160 will be visually in keeping with the house. It'll be pole building style uh 51 00:04:22,079 --> 00:04:29,919 but with sheathing and sighting to match the house uh standard construction. I'd 52 00:04:27,759 --> 00:04:35,919 like to put it within the same footprint. No closer to the property 53 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:40,160 line than the existing building. Uh and I've spoken with all of my neighbors. I 54 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:44,320 don't have any problem with it. As I mentioned to the other board members, I 55 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:47,919 think they would really like to see a nicer looking building in there. 56 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:55,120 the existing building, the corner is 1.2 ft from the property line 57 00:04:53,840 --> 00:04:57,520 that >> it says there. Yes. 58 00:04:55,919 --> 00:05:03,360 » Okay. So, it couldn't really get too much closer, right? 59 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:08,960 » Uh, do you have a a statement or an email or anything written from German? 60 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:13,600 Is that your immediate neighbor? >> Oh, no. I'm sorry. I didn't think to do 61 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:18,800 that. Uh, I've had a number of uh conversations with him. 62 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:24,320 was just thinking that because they're so close, but this doesn't say where 63 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:28,080 their house or any of their improvements are on their land, 64 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:31,600 » but one foot away from the line, >> you pull up the area or 65 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:34,960 » Yeah, that's a street view. Yeah, >> I drove by it. Yeah, 66 00:05:33,039 --> 00:05:39,919 » it looks like it's >> it's not crammed in there. It's not like 67 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:43,759 another house that these neighbors and I >> Yeah. 68 00:05:40,639 --> 00:05:49,440 » And no one wrote everyone down. went out. 69 00:05:46,639 --> 00:05:53,720 » Yeah. And as I said, I went around and spoke personally with each of them. 70 00:06:09,919 --> 00:06:17,039 » Right. So, here's the garage. I'm looking to replace 71 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:21,039 » my house. Jeremy's house. Their garage is way over there. So, it's just 72 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:25,639 backyard back here. >> Thank you. 73 00:06:22,319 --> 00:06:25,639 » Sounds way 74 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:33,440 » else have any other questions? >> You said you had convers Sorry I'm late. 75 00:06:31,759 --> 00:06:38,000 You guys went You said you had conversation with the chairman. 76 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:45,919 » Yes. In fact, when he got notification of the upcoming uh things there came 77 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:49,840 over because uh it said nonconforming uh instructions and and he he was afraid 78 00:06:48,319 --> 00:06:54,080 what that meant. I was just putting up a a steel shed or something. I said, "No, 79 00:06:51,759 --> 00:06:56,080 no, this this will look like a >> He's got no problem with you being that 80 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:59,080 close." >> No. 81 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:10,479 » Okay. Uh, no more questions for him. We can move on into kind of our internal 82 00:07:07,840 --> 00:07:13,479 discussions here. Um, 83 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:17,520 anybody else want to go first? >> Supposed to be 10, right? 84 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:24,160 » Mhm. >> Uh, is it 10 or 15? 85 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:31,160 » Claims 10, but some some of our districts have 86 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:31,160 » Well, either way, it's significantly 87 00:07:34,319 --> 00:07:41,199 I mean, there is an existing structure there. I don't see that. 88 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:44,720 » Yeah. I I certainly tend to agree. Uh if there's no neighbors that complain all 89 00:07:43,199 --> 00:07:49,680 in favor of improvements to someone's lot, 90 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:54,240 seems pretty straightforward to me. >> Um 91 00:07:51,599 --> 00:08:00,400 it is. So, I see that this is listed as a type one variant. We have to do some 92 00:07:57,599 --> 00:08:02,560 sort of secret thing for this. No, 93 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:07,120 » I think it's mislabelled on the application. It seems like a type two 94 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:11,280 where there be no secret action. Yes, >> okay. 95 00:08:07,759 --> 00:08:13,599 » Yeah, mine has two written over. >> Oh, 96 00:08:11,759 --> 00:08:18,479 » masterable area. >> All right. I must have got one. 97 00:08:17,039 --> 00:08:22,560 All right. So, it's type two action. No secret required. I guess I'll move on to 98 00:08:21,039 --> 00:08:26,039 the bouncing test. 99 00:08:26,319 --> 00:08:31,680 Balance test for variance. Number one, would there be an undesirable change to 100 00:08:30,319 --> 00:08:35,120 the neighborhood character or a detriment to nearby properties? 101 00:08:34,399 --> 00:08:38,080 » No. >> Or no. 102 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:40,719 » Can benefit be achieved by other means feasible to the applicant? 103 00:08:40,399 --> 00:08:44,279 » No. >> I would say no. 104 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:54,560 » I could put it in the middle of the yard, but that doesn't 105 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:57,279 have it derived by some other mean. >> Uh yeah. 106 00:08:55,360 --> 00:09:01,680 » Yeah. I think fleable is a pretty key word in there, but vote how you want, 107 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:04,240 » right? Okay. >> What's your vote there? 108 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:10,480 » Yes. >> Uh, okay. Three nos and one yes. Um, 109 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:14,959 number three, is this requested variance substantial? Yes. 110 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:18,480 » Yes. >> Is that four yeses? 111 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:21,200 » Number four, would the variance have an adverse impact on the physical or 112 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,560 environmental conditions in a neighborhood? 113 00:09:21,839 --> 00:09:25,760 » No. >> No. 114 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:31,279 Number five has the alleged difficulty to self-created difficulties. 115 00:09:29,680 --> 00:09:37,320 » Yes. >> Yeah. 116 00:09:33,519 --> 00:09:37,320 » All right. Um 117 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:43,279 anything else we need to do here? Seems pretty straightforward to me. 118 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:47,760 We'll make a motion. >> Motion to allow liber. 119 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:49,519 » Second. >> Favor. 120 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:52,080 » I. >> Thank you so much. 121 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:57,839 » Thank you neighborhood. Beautiful. If I may ask a question, uh, is a little late 122 00:09:54,720 --> 00:10:01,040 in the season. If I can't get this done before winter closes in, will this 123 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:03,920 variant still be effective in the spring? 124 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:08,240 » Yeah, I believe it's from here, right? >> It's a year, not 125 00:10:06,399 --> 00:10:11,200 » Thanks, C. I think it's a straight year. Okay. Thank you very much. 126 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:13,360 » We don't have room to guarantee that, but 127 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:17,040 » hopefully you wouldn't have to come back through this year. 128 00:10:15,680 --> 00:10:21,279 » And I think that's the start of the construction. I don't think has to be 129 00:10:18,560 --> 00:10:25,079 completed here, right? He I think his just got it started, 130 00:10:22,079 --> 00:10:25,079 » right? 131 00:10:25,519 --> 00:10:30,399 » Okay. On to the second appeal. Number 516. 132 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,680 Uh Alyssa. >> Alicia. 133 00:10:30,959 --> 00:10:35,600 » Alicia. Sorry. >> It's okay. It's the way to spell. 134 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:40,720 » Um yes. Hi. So I have a very small informal home daycare over at 10 park. 135 00:10:37,839 --> 00:10:44,160 I'm uh just applying for a 20% area variance. Uh for the code you're only 136 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:50,079 supposed to be using 30% of your floor space. I'm using 50%. Um so I'm just too 137 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:54,880 long to feel short. was looking for a 20% area variance just to uh make it to 138 00:10:53,440 --> 00:11:00,480 next summer to be able to successfully run my little day here. 139 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:04,480 » Okay, thanks. >> Um, is there anybody here that was 140 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:05,440 hoping to speak? Were you guys here? Just 141 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:10,720 » they're just >> moral support. 142 00:11:07,839 --> 00:11:13,440 » All right, on to the next section. Uh, Dan, was there any any emails? Anything 143 00:11:12,959 --> 00:11:18,800 like that? >> No, feedback. 144 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:22,880 » Okay. Uh, questions from the board. You said in your application that this is 145 00:11:20,560 --> 00:11:25,279 just until next summer. So, it's really a very 146 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:27,680 » temporary variance. >> Yep. 147 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:30,640 » Yep. I'm trying to I actually just want to get bigger. I want to get a 148 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:36,399 commercial building, get licensed and registered and and go all big and Yeah. 149 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:39,440 » Stan, can we grant a temporary variance? >> Just grant a variance and when it 150 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:43,839 changes, it changes. >> Well, variance runs with the land. So, 151 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:49,120 it would stay with the property forever. So 152 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:55,360 » well I mean I mean temporary >> property for the for this use 153 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:59,120 » that just stays home >> just a temporary list for the amount of 154 00:11:58,079 --> 00:12:01,760 time otherwise it runs >> they call the use variance not temporary 155 00:12:00,959 --> 00:12:06,880 variance. >> Yeah. 156 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:09,360 » Yes. But that runs with the land >> until the use stops 157 00:12:08,079 --> 00:12:12,560 » stay there. No, >> if they were to leave and the use 158 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:18,240 doesn't continue, then >> can be used for that same way. 159 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:21,680 » That's not how it works. I don't think >> if it helps, I do plan to keep I'm going 160 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:24,399 to stay living there. I'm just going to move the day. I'm not going to have to 161 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:26,880 go there. >> You're going to get a bigger place is 162 00:12:26,079 --> 00:12:30,639 what you're saying. >> Yes. Yeah. Like I'm I'm hoping to be 163 00:12:28,560 --> 00:12:36,399 able to get a commercial space. Not even in Homer, out of Homer. 164 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:39,839 » It's like a pretty niche variance. I don't know. 165 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:44,480 someone would benefit from that down the road, even if it did live on. But if we 166 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:50,079 granted it as requested, then it would be for a temporary, I guess. 167 00:12:46,399 --> 00:12:52,079 » But it's requested as an area variance, >> not a use, 168 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:57,639 » right? >> Oh, good. 169 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:57,639 We never had 170 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:07,920 » I don't I mean, I don't see an issue, but does anybody have any more questions 171 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:11,399 for her? We move on to Dr. Well, I've 172 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:23,600 I mean, from my experience, zoning does run with the land, but New York State 173 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:28,240 has been particularly interested in dealing with zoning and reaching inside 174 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:34,079 the property and whether a zoning law can reach inside a property and and say 175 00:13:31,680 --> 00:13:40,240 anything about what goes on inside property. There are exceptions when it 176 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:45,200 can and that's when inside property is a business or a 177 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:49,279 commercial use and what it does is it affects the health, safety and welfare 178 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:53,360 of the community which is what zoning is supposed to protect. In that case, 179 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:59,760 zoning can reach in property and say something about what happens in there. I 180 00:13:56,160 --> 00:14:03,839 see this as not affecting the health, safety and welfare of the public and 181 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:10,320 zoning reaching in the property and saying yes, this is an appropriate use. 182 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:14,800 Um, so I would certainly support it this use. I wouldn't support a use variance 183 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:19,279 turning this into a commercial property because there could be other external 184 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:23,360 implications. But I think that we have no business looking inside and and if a 185 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:27,120 person living in that house and at least my arguments and all of the things I've 186 00:14:24,959 --> 00:14:30,880 written about it say person lives in the house has three children and you people 187 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:36,320 move into the house and have 12 children zoning cannot make them leave. So you 188 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:40,160 have so many children in your purview and you have so many children in your 189 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:44,199 purview and that's just the way it is. has fully support. 190 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:53,920 » Okay. >> Yeah. So, just I mean it's our little 191 00:14:51,279 --> 00:14:59,920 discussion. I I have been affected by this in the past. Childare disappears 192 00:14:56,240 --> 00:15:03,360 overnight and it's a nightmare. So, I uh I don't think 193 00:15:00,639 --> 00:15:05,040 » there's a lack of it. >> That's another reason why I'm trying to 194 00:15:04,399 --> 00:15:10,639 go bigger. >> Yeah. Um I don't I don't think that 195 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:16,000 percentage of the housing the kids are running around is a problem to me. Um 196 00:15:13,519 --> 00:15:19,920 seems pretty straightforward. So >> uh let's jump over to the 197 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:24,000 » How many kids are we talking about? Says 30% maximum of 30%. 198 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:26,560 » Yeah. My I can only have seven because I'm not registered. I'm just informal 199 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:31,680 ambigu >> and I have two and two of them are mine 200 00:15:28,959 --> 00:15:35,350 that live there. So they don't count. >> They don't count. 201 00:15:32,639 --> 00:15:38,480 » My fails don't. Well, [laughter] 202 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:41,900 terrible terrible. 203 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:44,800 » Oh my gosh, that's so terrible. [laughter] 204 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:51,780 They very much count. I mean, in the ratio for New York State, 205 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:51,780 » I needed that. Thanks. [laughter] 206 00:15:52,639 --> 00:16:00,720 » Let's do the bouncing like that. 207 00:15:57,839 --> 00:16:03,920 » Balancing test for variance. Uh, number one, would there be an 208 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:06,160 undesirable change in character or detriment to nearby properties? 209 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:10,320 » No. >> No. 210 00:16:08,079 --> 00:16:14,560 » Two, can be achieved by other means feasible to the applicant? 211 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:17,560 » Block along in the kitchen, but that doesn't. 212 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:22,399 » Uh, number three, is a requested variance substantial? 213 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:25,399 » Yes. >> Yeah. 214 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:32,720 Yeah. Um, number four, would the variance have an adverse impact on 215 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:37,120 physical environmental conditions in the neighborhood? No. 216 00:16:34,959 --> 00:16:41,320 » Number five, is the alleged difficulty themselves created? 217 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:41,320 » Yes. 218 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:45,639 Motion to grant the house. 219 00:16:45,839 --> 00:16:49,920 All >> favor. I 220 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:53,759 » thank you. Really appreciate it. >> Thank you. 221 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:58,800 » Make sure you count them. [laughter] Oh, my pet. 222 00:16:56,959 --> 00:17:02,199 » My daughter hit her bad. You've been in a lot of trouble. 223 00:17:05,839 --> 00:17:16,319 » Minutes said the one motion was tabled last time. Um, 224 00:17:13,679 --> 00:17:23,439 » this is the one on >> Yeah. asked me to subdivide that yard it 225 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:29,280 come back but the minutes from both the group 226 00:17:25,360 --> 00:17:35,600 » also all there >> have one more item to entertain is uh 227 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:40,400 due to the holidays if there's DBA action in November and or 228 00:17:38,559 --> 00:17:43,400 Christmas we need to entertain altered dates 229 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:46,400 on the 230 00:17:51,360 --> 00:18:01,080 DBA same day. >> No, I'm trying to do both at the same 231 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:01,080 time. 232 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:10,160 December because they can't do her. They can't do 233 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:14,799 it. They need 30 days to send. >> Um, that's what I'm hearing. pling board 234 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:16,640 which is meeting a little later tonight. Uh 235 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:20,039 » these [clears throat] kids are all sad, aren't they? 236 00:18:17,039 --> 00:18:20,039 » Yeah. 237 00:18:21,722 --> 00:18:26,000 [clears throat] >> Again, so much for your time. 238 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:29,960 » You're released on your own. Take care. >> Thank you again. Have a good night. 239 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:39,200 » The item from the planning board uh tonight requires a full uh environmental 240 00:18:35,919 --> 00:18:43,840 review. So, they're going to do 30 days out. they want to meet uh come back on 241 00:18:41,360 --> 00:18:45,840 Monday the 1. If that's a date, that's good for you. We don't h necessarily 242 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:48,480 have to. >> You don't have to, 243 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:51,039 » but if you want your own date, your own day, 244 00:18:48,799 --> 00:18:55,120 » Monday the first. But I will tell you, moving forward after the organizational 245 00:18:53,120 --> 00:18:59,760 meeting, most likely we're going to have these meetings ZBA first, planning 246 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:02,720 second, just the way the town does so. So, we can all we just meet on one night 247 00:19:01,679 --> 00:19:04,799 during the month. >> Okay? 248 00:19:03,120 --> 00:19:09,039 » As opposed to trying to wrangle everyone for two. Portlandville started that and 249 00:19:07,120 --> 00:19:11,919 then the town picked it up and >> that sounds 250 00:19:11,360 --> 00:19:15,919 that way. >> Our reorganizational meeting on in 251 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:19,760 December, we'll set that motion. >> You guys will be your board will be 252 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:24,480 first and the planning board is second. >> Okay. 253 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:29,440 » I know no uh zoning meeting needed for November necessarily um and or December 254 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:34,640 off the top of my head, but I would pick at least a couple dates in both. 255 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:39,120 » Our date for November is the 20th. Mhm. >> Yeah. Thanksgiving that 256 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:42,720 » before the holiday, I'm sure. >> Thanksgiving is the fifth the fifth 257 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:46,160 Thursday of the month. >> The 27th. I've got on my phone, but I 258 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:50,080 could be mistaken. >> Thanksgiving is the 27th. 259 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:53,080 » It's the fourth Thursday after the first Monday. 260 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:58,559 I didn't make that up. >> Well, it's the 27th we were having. 261 00:19:56,960 --> 00:20:01,039 » Oh, so we're the fourth. I had my I have my calendar wrong here. I recorded the 262 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:05,600 wrong day. >> The 27th is the 4th, right? If you want 263 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:07,520 to bump it up to the 20th, we can. >> Yeah. 264 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:10,960 » Yeah. [clears throat] >> The same. 265 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:14,720 » I did already. I don't know. >> This already 266 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:19,360 good for everyone. >> It's already on my calendar. 267 00:20:17,039 --> 00:20:23,919 » Uh, we'll just keep six o'clock. Actually, I I don't want to go back to 268 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:27,799 6:30 since moving forward is going to be at 6. 269 00:20:24,799 --> 00:20:27,799 » Good. 270 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:35,640 » All right. All right. So, just resolve you're going to have a meeting November 271 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:35,640 20th at 6 p.m. if needed. 272 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:39,640 » December 273 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,840 18. 274 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:58,880 » Yeah. I mean, I who knows that's so far out. There's so much going on that time 275 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:01,440 of year. >> Yeah. 276 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:04,960 » I can't really I mean I can say that I will be there 277 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,799 but >> event for the 18th. 278 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:10,000 » Yeah. >> Well, as we get closer we we can uh 279 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:13,559 » Yeah. >> Yeah. Just races. 280 00:21:21,120 --> 00:21:25,440 » We need a motion. I move. >> Yeah. 281 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:27,679 » Change. I 282 00:21:26,159 --> 00:21:32,799 » Good. Thanks Mops. >> One other thing is that um you know the 283 00:21:30,559 --> 00:21:38,640 planning board has the draft of the code for the ability to zone code and 284 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:40,799 wondering when are we going to get a copy of that so that we can look it over 285 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:44,640 and >> you it's not the perview of the ZBA to 286 00:21:43,039 --> 00:21:49,919 to look at that. It's only planning board. So once the code is adopted which 287 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:52,880 is going to be >> wait 288 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:58,400 » yeah it's in the in the code book. There's no ZBA for to look at at a new 289 00:21:55,600 --> 00:22:01,280 code. It's only in the purview of the uh the petitioning of the planning board. 290 00:21:59,919 --> 00:22:03,440 » If you have zoning, you have to have a ZBA. 291 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:08,400 » I'm not try I'm not trying to argue with you. It's not in the code. Paul, if you 292 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:11,919 look in your code book, >> you said, 293 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:18,120 » but even as a get if it's not in the code book, as a courtesy to the ZBA in a 294 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:18,120 small village like 295 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:24,880 that's why I sent out links. I do believe I send links to everyone but to 296 00:22:21,919 --> 00:22:28,880 take a look at it. The the digital record is already up. You can just 297 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:33,240 Google village of Homer E360 and you can look at the entire code. So 298 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:42,799 » kind of hard to believe that you pass that without having some discussion with 299 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:48,360 the ZBA when ZBA is mandated to adjudicate. 300 00:22:45,039 --> 00:22:48,360 Sounds hard. 301 00:22:49,919 --> 00:22:55,760 Well, there's public comments session, isn't there? 302 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:58,320 » We've had many We've had like three public hearings regarding the village 303 00:22:57,679 --> 00:23:01,440 code >> since it's been multiple times. We just 304 00:23:01,120 --> 00:23:03,840 had >> since it's been completed. 305 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,799 » Yeah. >> Really? 306 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:09,280 » When was that? When was that? There are village board trustees 307 00:23:08,159 --> 00:23:14,720 meetings >> and we're going to have another public 308 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:21,200 hearing that's was advertised in the paper I believe on the 18th. 309 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:25,039 » Yep. The 18th of this month and next board meeting at four public hearings. 310 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:28,240 One of them which is the code. >> Wait, can you 311 00:23:25,679 --> 00:23:30,320 » So the code book is complete then we >> electric signs everything. 312 00:23:29,679 --> 00:23:37,679 » Here you go. >> There's no electric signs in it. Not I'm 313 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:40,080 just no no new new laws. Go ahead. 314 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:44,240 » The village board of trustees may from time to time on its own motion or by 315 00:23:42,559 --> 00:23:49,919 recommendation or petition of the planning board amend supplement change 316 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:51,840 modify or repeal the regulations and provisions of this chapter. I'm looking 317 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:54,720 under >> I fully understand that. 318 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:58,799 » I just want to read it just so you know. found a public hearing in accordance 319 00:23:56,640 --> 00:24:01,200 with law. Each such proposed amendment or change shall be referred to the 320 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:04,080 planning board >> and it's just that chapter. It's the 321 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:07,200 zoning chapter. It's not the entire vote. 322 00:24:05,360 --> 00:24:11,679 » I understand they are the body to adjudicate but we are 323 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:16,640 » administering it and it seems like as courtesy in a village of however many we 324 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:22,720 are. We need to have the opportunity to look at it. needs to get a notice to the 325 00:24:19,120 --> 00:24:25,840 ZBA of when these hearings were or will be 326 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:27,360 » public hearing was was notified as per our phone, 327 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,840 » right? >> And it's going to be at the next 328 00:24:29,039 --> 00:24:33,279 meeting. >> Welcome to the meeting. 329 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:37,919 » Exactly. >> Next board meeting is Tuesday at six 330 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:39,679 o'clock. >> Four public. 331 00:24:38,559 --> 00:24:44,159 » I didn't know that it was fully completed. That's why I saw drafts. I 332 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:52,000 never saw a complete >> Don Bran see uh Kevin and Pat and I have 333 00:24:49,279 --> 00:24:57,520 been working on this for nearly six years. Pat nearly eight years. 334 00:24:54,799 --> 00:25:00,000 » Planning board has discussed this code already. 335 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:04,159 » They're supposed to tell us tonight because they were told that they were 336 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:06,720 supposed to give us their nay or nay. They got to do it tonight. 337 00:25:05,120 --> 00:25:10,400 » They don't have a yay or nay. They just it's not not if they have a question 338 00:25:09,120 --> 00:25:12,640 they can ask questions. Well, they need to go on the record saying if they have 339 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:17,440 any questions. >> Exactly. 340 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:20,960 That we will do tonight. This is all been recorded. So, welcome 341 00:25:19,679 --> 00:25:24,279 to talk some more, but do you want to close your 342 00:25:21,279 --> 00:25:24,279 » meeting? 343 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,480 Jer 344 00:25:31,407 --> 00:25:33,427 [laughter] 345 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,559 waiting.