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Good evening everyone and welcome. I'd

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like to call the city of Homestead City

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Council meeting to order. Today is

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Wednesday, April 22nd, 2026

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and it is now 6:01

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p.m. This evening we'll have the

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invocation by Reverend Michael Styles.

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Is uh Reverend Styles here? Is he here?

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>> Don't see him yet.

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Councilman Fletcher, would you mind? So,

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the invocation by Councilman Fletcher,

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followed by the uh pledge of allegiance

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with Councilman Fletcher and the

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Homestead Police Explorers. You please

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rise.

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Heavenly Father, we come to you with

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grateful hearts today and we thank you

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for your mercy and your grace. We ask

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you today for your wisdom to guide us to

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make the right decisions

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for our community. And we ask that you

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bless all of those who are in this

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chamber this evening

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and that you watch over the city

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employees, our first responders,

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our folks protecting our country around

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the world.

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And we ask these in your gracious name.

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Amen.

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>> Amen.

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>> Please join me on the pledge.

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left

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Please join me

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>> all.

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» I pledge allegiance to the flag of the

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United States of America and to the

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republic for which it stands, one nation

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under God, indivisible, with liberty and

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justice for all.

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the face

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forward.

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The the right

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Thank you. Please be seated.

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Okay, at this time we will now uh open

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the floor for public comments

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as to any issue. Um, please be advised

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that uh now is the time to speak on any

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agenda issue with the exception of at

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the time any quadial

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quasi judicial item or land use item is

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called up, you will have the opportunity

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to uh to speak at that time. So yes,

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getting ahead of myself on the agenda.

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Thank you, Councilman. Roll call, Madam

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Clerk.

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>> Councilman Cannibal.

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>> Yes. Councilwoman Abula

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>> here.

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>> Counciloman Roth

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>> here.

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>> Councilman Fletcher

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>> here.

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>> Councilwoman Ksky

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>> here.

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>> Vice Mayor Bailey here.

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>> Mayor Losman

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>> here.

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>> Now, as I was saying, public comments.

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Is there anyone wishing to make a

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comment as to any issue, any agenda item

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with the exception of a land use quasi

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or quasi judicial item. Please come

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forward. Give us your name and address

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for the record. And please limit your

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comments to three minutes.

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Now note for the record that no one has

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appeared to sign to have pre-registered.

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So we'll call calling from the floor

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now. Hi, good evening. Welcome.

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>> Hi, my name is Ariel. Good evening

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everything. This is Claudia is my

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translation for today for tonight.

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» Good evening. My name is Claudia

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Gonzalez and I tried to interpret it to

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earlier.

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Uh good evening everyone. Um I came two

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months ago and I asked him about prop uh

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proposed um

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ordinance

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and I think um Miss uh Erica present

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about it and she want to know about

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what's uh is the followup for that.

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>> What what was the subject matter of the

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ordinance?

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Uh it is a safety drive.

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I try to remind everything. Um I want to

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know it is important the life of the uh

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community and that's what um she want to

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uh she want to know about the the

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resource if it I she know that someone

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she bring information to somebody else

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and she want to know what is uh the

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reser does her opinion

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» council phone.

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>> Thank you, Mayor.

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>> I was just going to see if the reminder

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was I think it was about cell phone

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usage, texting while driving and those

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things, right?

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>> Yes. She says about the driving and

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texting and it's about different

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accidents is in the community about that

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and that is the um

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>> so I'm not sure what what what they

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>> I I can speak to this. Yes. So I thank

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you. Thank you for asking about it. It

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has not formally come to the council yet

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for review. What I can say is that back

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in February, I did request for our city

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manager to work with our police

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department and with legal to investigate

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different um uh possibilities on how we

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can reinforce safer driving um code and

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language to give more power to our

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police department to um site people for

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distracted driving and to um just be

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stricter on cell phone usage to save to

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reduce traffic and accidents. Um I know

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that our attorney apped on it like next

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day. So did Chief Knap and that

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information um I believe is still in the

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works with our city manager's office. I

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have not received a response,

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but do you have maybe you have an

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update?

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meeting the city attorney that this is

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subject to Florida statute 316 which

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preempts local government. Uh Mr.

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Satony, correct me if I understand it. I

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understood you correctly.

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>> No, there are two statutes that cover

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texting while driving and it is covered

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in chapter 316. Um we're pre the cities

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are preempted from local regulation, but

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there are traffic site uniform traffic

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citations that can be issued under 316

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under existing law without the city

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doing anything. There's it's just a

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question of you know enforcement. It's

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not a question of uh having enabling

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legislation in order to prevent it.

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this is something that I would like for

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the city manager's office to look into.

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briefing to be put together for for us

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to discuss further. We haven't had that

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briefing yet with the results of what

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the the council and the uh police

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department's um advice and

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recommendations and and um and research

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provided so that we can then come back

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with a potential uh ordinance for

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consideration. But um thank you for for

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reminding us of the urgency of the

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matter that there was direction that

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went out right after that meeting. It

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might have been the next day or the day

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after. And I know that we did have um

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some information and research conducted.

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and and they're hearing it now as well.

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» Mr. Mayor.

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>> Yes. Also, just for information, Pastor

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Styles has arrived. If you'd like him to

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rebess us.

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Good evening, Mayor and Council, and all

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of our distinguished public servants in

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your capacities. Our names, Shandra

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Mallerie, Janette Mallalerie, 45 year

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residents here in the city of Homestead,

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and I just come before you tonight to

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humbly ask that we consider

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I humbly come before you tonight to ask

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that we consider two things. One, the

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flow of traffic in the southwest

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section. It is becoming an ultimate

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nightmare to cross Flaggler Street

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during the operating hours of, let's

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say, 10 to 12 on the weekends, which

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becomes an inconvenience for families

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that are, you know, trying to move

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around the city. And the code

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enforcement, um, we are homeowners. We

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have been homeowners for almost 50 years

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now. And I think there seems to be some

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sort of confusion as it pertains to the

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homeowners association type of

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restrictions versus homeowners, single

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family homeowners. So we just humbly ask

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that we consider those of us that have

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been in the committ community for many

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years and that have tithes in our

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properties and have worked hard to

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accumulate the things that we do possess

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at our properties. So, um I don't know

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if this is the meeting to discuss it,

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but at some level, can we consider those

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of us that have been here for longtime

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residents and we do accumulate things at

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our properties that we like to keep and

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we don't like to be told what to do with

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it because we work hard to earn these

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things. So, I just ask that the council

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keep us in mind as we move forward with

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the things that we propose and impose on

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those of us taxpaying citizens that have

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been here for almost 50 years now. Thank

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» Anyone else? Last call for public

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» Good evening. Brandy Ramirez, 2231

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wanted to piggyback in regards to I

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think there's an item that you'll be

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discussing today in regards to boats in the yard or association. Um, and just

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like she mentioned, a lot of people work

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hard for items that they have. So, just

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take us into consideration making those

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type of decisions. But I also just

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wanted to come and share. Um, I do

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notice uh some community uh residents

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mentioning code enforcement going into

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gated communities and that they're

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having some issues or concerns um about

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that. But I wanted to share that as a

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resident that lives in a gated

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community, I had a very positive um

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interaction uh with code enforcement and

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a positive interaction with the

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permitting department, the building

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department. So, I wanted to thank um

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code enforcement, the director and the

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manager for taking the time uh to

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explain me the proper, you know,

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procedures and and the process to go

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through it to make sure we correct um

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some permitting um concerns and then the

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building um uh department and the

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permitting uh Nora has been great. Um

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I'm looking forward to working with the

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other building people to to complete.

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I've already completed one and in the

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process of finishing the other one. So,

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I think we should as residents, it's not

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always negative or complaints, but to

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also praise the different departments

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when they're doing their best to assist

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us as residents. So, just wanted to

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share that and I look forward to seeing

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the different things that you guys

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continue to do in the city. Thank you.

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>> Again, last call for public comments.

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We'll get you to the microphone one way

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or the other tonight. Pastor Styles,

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>> good evening. Uh I do apologize for my

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tardiness. Um however, uh two one

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concern, two concerns. Um the light that

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is at US1 and I want to say where

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I guess that's Domino's or the peace

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places. It needs a turning signal. That

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is one reason why I'm late. I sat to

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that like 25 minutes, but people can't

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get to make a left-hand turn to get onto

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US1 or come straight to come into city

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hall. It's very confusing. Um especially

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when you got to zoom around and then

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you're scared that whoever's going to

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turn left going back north of ESUS1 or

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who's going to turn south to go back

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south towards Florida City, it's going

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to be accidents there if there has not

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been many accidents there. And every

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time, no matter how early I leave from

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the east side, it still takes 25 minutes

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to get through just that one light.

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Second, uh the road that is being torn

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up, I think I've said this a number of

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times, uh right in front of the

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hospital. Uh I have personally had to

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have my vehicle realigned four times

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because of the water line that they've

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dug up to be able to tap into the big

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development that's right there in front

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of Publix.

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It is a safety hazard. It is a great

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safety hazard. I do want to say thanks

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to the city for correcting the deep

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potholes that have been had two flat

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tires by a racetrack.

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So, it is an ongoing um an ongoing

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building project, but it is a nuisance

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to road hazards as well. So, those are

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only two things and I do apologize about

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my targets.

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>> Thank you, pastor.

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>> Okay, we have one online. Okay, let's

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hear who's on the line. I bet I know.

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>> Uh Anivo Garcia. Oh,

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>> okay. No,

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please go ahead.

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» If you're on the line, go ahead if you

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can hear us.

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» There you go.

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>> There we go. Can you hear me?

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>> We can. Yes. Thank you.

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>> Okay. My my name is Aniva Garcia and I

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am here today on behalf of the Florida

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Department of Health in Miami Dade

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County tobacco prevention and control

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program in support of the smoke-free

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parks ordinance before you today. Uh

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this ordinance is important because it

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protects our youth and preserves the

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environment within the city of

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Homestead's park system. And we know

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that youth vaping continues to rise and

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many young people mistakenly believe

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that vaping is safe when in reality

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these products contain nicotine which

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can harm brain development and lead to

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lifelong addiction which we all know.

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When smoking or vaping is uh visible in

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parks, spaces designed for families and

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recreation, it normalizes that behavior.

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And passing this ordinance helps shift

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that norm and sends a clear message that

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our parks are places for health, not

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harm. Uh there is also a growing

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environmental concern. Disposable vapes

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are made of plastic and contain lithium

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ion batteries which when left behind

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they become hazardous waste leaking

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chemicals into our soil and waterways

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and posting potential uh fire risk fire

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risk uh especially in our South Florida

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climate. So this is in addition to

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cigarette litter which already impacts

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the cleanliness and safety of our parks

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as well. Uh this ordinance is not about

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punishment. It is about prevention. And

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with proper signage and community

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education, smoke-free park policies are

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highly effective and voluntary

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compliance. They reduce exposure,

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decrease litter, and they create a

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safer, cleaner environments for

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everyone, including our youth. By

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passing this ordinance, the city of

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Homestead is taking a proactive step to

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protect its youth, support public

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health, and safeguard its natural

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spaces. I respectfully urge you to

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support this ordinance. Thank you.

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>> Thank you. Thank you for calling in. We

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appreciate your input. Very, very

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important and uh informative. So, thank

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you again.

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Is there anyone else online?

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>> Okay.

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All right. Um we have a lot of lengthy

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presentations tonight and a very long

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agenda. So, if I could have the

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opportunity, I have a couple of

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appointments I'd like to make. I think

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one of them, one of the potential

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appointees are here. I think Councilman

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Davis, former Councilman Davis is under

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the weather, is not able to join us. But

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if I could go ahead and uh get your

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voice boat vote confirming uh the

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appointment of Natasha Alivera and Tom

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Davis to fill the two vacancies by

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virtue of term expiration to the

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Homestead Housing Authority. There any

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objections?

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All in favor?

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>> I. Thank you all. All right. We are very

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fortunate this evening to have uh us

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company in our people's house.

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I like to call her our third

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commissioner. I don't think she likes me

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to say that publicly, but but I have to.

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But our very own Miami Dade County

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Commissioner, District 7, Raquel

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Regalado. Welcome and thank you.

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Well, there are three commissioners that

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represent South Date and I am one of

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them. So, there you have it. Right. Um,

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first and foremost, it's always such a

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pleasure to be here with you all in

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Homestead. You're doing such amazing

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work. As many of you know, uh, I am the

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county commissioner of District 7. I was

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a school board member before, but here

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I'm really in here in my capacity as the

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proud mother of two neurode divergent

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adults. I want to thank all of you for

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raising the flag. It was such a

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beautiful event to have our families

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come out. Um, and this year my roll out

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has been a little bit different. Um,

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what I did was capture the body of work.

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Um, I've done a lot of things in Miami

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date county as pilots trying to prove a

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concept and that's what I want to share

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with with all of you and with all of

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Florida for that matter. So, uh, what I

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launched, uh, on April 2nd is the

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Florida Neuroincclusion Toolkit. So,

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it's actually a collection of all the

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legislation, the data, and everything

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that we've been doing over the last 10

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years. Um, just generally to explain why

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neurodeiversity and not autism. Um,

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neurodeiversity just includes a lot more

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humans. My both of my children are in

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the autism spectrum, but a lot of

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autistic individuals are diagnosed with

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another um another uh neurode divergent

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symptom. And in the case of my daughter

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when she was an adolescent, even though

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she had been diagnosed um in the

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spectrum, she was also diagnosed with

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ADHD. So she has ADHD. And there are a

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lot of autistic children and adults that

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are autistic with dyslexia, autistic

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with epilepsy. It's actually very common

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for neurodeiversity to ride together is

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what we call it. So when we talk about

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autism, right now we're at one in 31 um

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in terms of the diagnosis, but when we

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talk about neurodeiversity, we're

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actually one in five because there's

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that many people. Uh and I say it

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because um neurodeiversity includes

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dyslexia, epilepsy, ADHD, autism,

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Tourette's. It also includes at the very

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top people who suffer from traumatic

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brain injury and become neurodeiverse as

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a result of that. And then on the other

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side of the spectrum we have

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neurological decline. So the first ones

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that I mentioned were neurological

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delay. So they get better with time. But

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then we have neurological decline which

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is dementia and Alzheimer's. And a lot

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of the work that we do for autism

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actually fits everybody in the entire

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spectrum. So I think that once you put

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it in that perspective, you start seeing

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that these are not outliers and it's not

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just about April and October. Uh but

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it's really about providing an entry

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point u for individuals when we talk

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about government. So, um, I used to be

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at the school board and I love talking

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about ed, but when I got to the county,

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I did, um, some research with Urban

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Impact Lab. Uh, specifically, we were

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dealing with employment for people with

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disabilities. And what we found is that

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the biggest obstacles were not at the

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employment side or not at the education

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side. It was the transportation. It was

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access to an ID. It was being arrested

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or bakered. These are all government

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functions that we actually have the

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domain over. So people could do as much

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as they want on the ed side and on the

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employment side, but if we don't push

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through those barriers, then they never

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even get to that opportunity. So that's

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what the toolkit does. Uh the idea is uh

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for people to replicate it. It has all

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of the data, you know, what we've

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tracked, what we've done. As many of you

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know, my first item at the at Miami date

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county was um training for all of our

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departments. In the toolkit, it says

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that we've trained uh 2,120

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uh first responders. Um, that's because

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that was the last report and I wanted to

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mention the report, but as of today,

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we've trained 4,125

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first responders in Miami date county in

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person, actually meeting autistic adults

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and hearing from those autistic adults,

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what that interaction felt like. So, not

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a video, not a tutorial, but actually

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meeting them and speaking with them and

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understanding from them and from their

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caregivers what that interaction looks

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like. And that has reduced the baker,

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that has reduced unnecessary arrest, and

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it has really changed the dynamic of our

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um police and fire as they enter uh into

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people's homes. The sheriff has been

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very supportive. Um when the when the

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police was under the county, I launched

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uh the decal, which is the occupant with

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autism decal that's available to

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everyone all over the county. um and it

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goes into your 911 system just like our

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911 system and that allows you to

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register and to put the actual

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information of deescalation for that

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person. So for example, my daughter

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Isabella is very different from my son

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Sebastian. When I registered both of

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them, I put Bella her deescalation,

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Sebastian his deescalation, right?

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They're two very different people and

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how you would approach them at a point

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of crisis is very different. Um the

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sheriff uh this April added to the home

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registration

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um a vehicle registration. So now you

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can register your vehicle and you can

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say there might be a neurode divergent

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person in this vehicle so that when the

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police officer or fire pulls up your tag

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now they're on alert and they can see

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00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,159
that same information. So it's so

546
00:24:52,159 --> 00:24:54,400
important to do training. Um at the

547
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:55,840
county we've trained everyone in our

548
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:57,440
parks department, everyone in our

549
00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,679
libraries. All 50 of our libraries not

550
00:24:59,679 --> 00:25:01,120
only have training, they have social

551
00:25:01,120 --> 00:25:03,200
stories, they have sensory kits, they

552
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,520
have sensory activities, the larger ones

553
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,679
have sensory rooms. And we've really

554
00:25:07,679 --> 00:25:10,960
opened up those public spaces um for our

555
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:12,880
residents and it's wonderful to see them

556
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,279
finally coming into those spaces because

557
00:25:15,279 --> 00:25:18,159
most of our families just stay home and

558
00:25:18,159 --> 00:25:20,080
that's why you don't hear from them. But

559
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,240
not all of it costs a lot of money. We

560
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,400
actually did the training with NSU card

561
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,240
which is a resource to everyone. They do

562
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,240
it for the cost. they're not making

563
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,400
money from from the endeavor and they're

564
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,640
a state resource. Um there's seven cards

565
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,880
in the state and everyone can um can

566
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,360
contact their cards. But a lot of the

567
00:25:37,360 --> 00:25:39,200
information that I have in here is

568
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,279
simple things. So for the youth fair for

569
00:25:41,279 --> 00:25:43,919
example, they worked the first year with

570
00:25:43,919 --> 00:25:46,000
NSU card and they started a sensory room

571
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,080
and we did a social story. The second

572
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:49,919
year I worked with them and we did a

573
00:25:49,919 --> 00:25:52,720
sensory map where you can show um

574
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:54,880
sensory areas and how you could walk the

575
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:56,640
fair a little bit different. And then

576
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,799
this year we did sensory hours. So we

577
00:25:58,799 --> 00:26:00,559
had sensory hours every Saturday and

578
00:26:00,559 --> 00:26:02,640
Sunday from 12:00 to 3. And that was

579
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:04,960
simply turning off the music and turning

580
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:06,960
off the lights. And I will tell you even

581
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,039
the neurotypical people loved it.

582
00:26:09,039 --> 00:26:11,279
Everyone really liked it at a lower

583
00:26:11,279 --> 00:26:13,840
pace. And that as I mentioned is really

584
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,000
important for all neurodeiverse people.

585
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,279
So back to um Alzheimer's and dementia,

586
00:26:19,279 --> 00:26:21,520
most people think that the first sign of

587
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,840
that is actually is forgetfulness. That

588
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,000
is not the case. The first sign of

589
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,159
neurological decline is sensory

590
00:26:28,159 --> 00:26:31,200
overload. 89% of people who have

591
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,440
dementia and Alzheimer's, that is the

592
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,760
first sign. They have issues with lights

593
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,320
and sounds and textures in the same way

594
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,000
that autistic people do and other

595
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,200
neurodeiverse people do. So, um, at our

596
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,279
airport, we actually and at all of our

597
00:26:45,279 --> 00:26:47,200
transit stations, we have the sunflower

598
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,600
lanyard. Um, so you can get it from me,

599
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:50,960
you can get it from the airport, you can

600
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,120
sign up and get it yourself. Uh but this

601
00:26:53,120 --> 00:26:56,240
is a lanyard that we use nationally uh

602
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,039
to denote invisible disabilities and

603
00:26:59,039 --> 00:27:01,200
this you know it comes with a training

604
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:02,880
and that way everyone knows that that

605
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,360
person may need some extra help. The

606
00:27:05,360 --> 00:27:07,760
same thing um with the work that we're

607
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,480
doing with the decal uh and the sheriff.

608
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,400
I'm actually having an event uh at

609
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,640
Betham this Saturday where the sheriff

610
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,000
is going to be there and the tax

611
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,840
collector and we're going to be doing

612
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,080
the registrations there for everyone.

613
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:21,919
The tax collector partnered with us

614
00:27:21,919 --> 00:27:23,840
through this last year and we

615
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,480
established neuroincclusion days. So in

616
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,120
the state of Florida, you can have um a

617
00:27:29,120 --> 00:27:31,919
state ID starting at 5 years old. Two

618
00:27:31,919 --> 00:27:33,840
years ago, they changed the law that

619
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,240
allows you to place your disability

620
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,120
voluntarily on your state ID. That means

621
00:27:39,120 --> 00:27:40,559
that if you have a six-year-old, an

622
00:27:40,559 --> 00:27:42,400
eight-year-old, an 18-year-old, a 22

623
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,400
year old that's in the spectrum, they

624
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,799
can have a Florida issued ID that has

625
00:27:46,799 --> 00:27:49,360
their picture and has their disability

626
00:27:49,360 --> 00:27:52,080
and will serve as evidence of that

627
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,000
disability. We have a lot of parents

628
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:55,760
walking around with a diagnosis from

629
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,720
2003 and a birth certificate because

630
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,720
since their child doesn't drive, they

631
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,120
haven't gotten a license. But without an

632
00:28:03,120 --> 00:28:05,520
ID, they are at risk. without an ID,

633
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,760
they can't volunteer, they can't work,

634
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,279
and they can't even prove their

635
00:28:09,279 --> 00:28:11,360
identity. So, we're really pushing the

636
00:28:11,360 --> 00:28:13,520
IDs, getting parents to understand that

637
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,200
whether they want to put the disability

638
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,200
on there or not, this is a tool that

639
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,080
they need specifically to travel. At

640
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,240
MIA, we have an amazing program that's

641
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:23,679
available to all Miami Day County

642
00:28:23,679 --> 00:28:26,080
residents. It's called MIA Air. It's a

643
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,039
dress rehearsal where we take the kids

644
00:28:29,039 --> 00:28:30,799
uh through the entire experience with

645
00:28:30,799 --> 00:28:32,559
their caregivers. So, they get to the

646
00:28:32,559 --> 00:28:34,080
airport, they get their boarding pass,

647
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,080
they go through TSA, we sign them up for

648
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,640
CSA Cares, they board the plane, they

649
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:40,880
meet the pilot, and then we go buy them

650
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:41,919
Chick-fil-A. Who doesn't like

651
00:28:41,919 --> 00:28:44,000
Chick-fil-A? Uh, and we show them the

652
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,159
sensory rooms, but it allows them to

653
00:28:46,159 --> 00:28:48,080
walk through the experience so that when

654
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,279
they go for real on a trip, they don't

655
00:28:51,279 --> 00:28:52,720
have a meltdown because they've never

656
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,559
been there. It comes with a social story

657
00:28:54,559 --> 00:28:56,799
in English and in Spanish and we're with

658
00:28:56,799 --> 00:28:58,640
them the entire time and we take their

659
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,559
teachers with them in order to make the

660
00:29:00,559 --> 00:29:02,799
experience a pleasant one. So those are

661
00:29:02,799 --> 00:29:04,559
some of the things uh that we've been

662
00:29:04,559 --> 00:29:06,720
doing uh in Miami Day that's in the

663
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,799
toolkit. Um the other thing that's in

664
00:29:08,799 --> 00:29:10,960
the toolkit is the use of April and

665
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,080
October as really goal setting moments

666
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,720
and looking at what we're doing in our

667
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,279
communities. So, we have April, which is

668
00:29:19,279 --> 00:29:21,919
obviously um autism acceptance, and we

669
00:29:21,919 --> 00:29:23,679
talk about what we've done. But October

670
00:29:23,679 --> 00:29:26,159
is disability employment, and we really

671
00:29:26,159 --> 00:29:28,799
focus on opening opportunities there at

672
00:29:28,799 --> 00:29:30,399
the county, what I've asked the county

673
00:29:30,399 --> 00:29:33,360
to do is to um change the way that they

674
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,840
hire. So instead of putting on LinkedIn

675
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,880
that you want someone um that has good

676
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,200
communication skills, an autistic person

677
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,159
will never apply for that. Um to allow

678
00:29:44,159 --> 00:29:46,000
people to come in and rather than

679
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,640
focusing on eye contact and them talking

680
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,399
to you, to actually let them do the

681
00:29:50,399 --> 00:29:52,480
work. Let them do the work, especially

682
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,120
if it's in the area of tech, and let the

683
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,679
work speak for itself and not hold them

684
00:29:57,679 --> 00:29:59,919
to a very neurotypical standard of

685
00:29:59,919 --> 00:30:01,360
hiring so that they can have an

686
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,279
opportunity. I've also opened up our

687
00:30:03,279 --> 00:30:05,279
internships so that we have to you know

688
00:30:05,279 --> 00:30:06,880
interview neurode diverent people and

689
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,720
give them those opportunities. And

690
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,919
finally um also in the toolkit is our

691
00:30:11,919 --> 00:30:13,520
zero drowning initiative which is a

692
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,120
countywide initiative that I know you

693
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,840
guys know about. Um I changed it to

694
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,000
include uh neurodeiverse individuals

695
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,000
specifically autistic children and

696
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,640
adults because irrespective of age the

697
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,399
number one cause of death for autistic

698
00:30:26,399 --> 00:30:29,360
people is drowning irrespective of age.

699
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,760
Um, and that is because water is a form

700
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,799
of sensory relief. They seek water, they

701
00:30:34,799 --> 00:30:37,200
run to water, and if they do not know

702
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,919
how to swim, many of them drown. So,

703
00:30:39,919 --> 00:30:43,039
it's been um a priority for me and for

704
00:30:43,039 --> 00:30:45,360
the children's trucks to provide folks

705
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,000
with as much information about the need

706
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,640
to teach um individuals in the spectrum

707
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:54,320
how to swim um and how long-term it

708
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,039
really is a wonderful uh commitment and

709
00:30:57,039 --> 00:30:59,120
endeavor. Um, so with that, I'm here to

710
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:00,880
answer any and all questions that you

711
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:02,480
may have. There's a lot more in the

712
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,840
toolkit. It was emailed to you. Um, and

713
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,480
also I have the QR codes here so that

714
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,200
you can check it out. It has um, the

715
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,600
legislation, social stories, how to do

716
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,440
all these things, how to do sensory

717
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,080
events, and I'm happy to help um, you

718
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:19,919
navigate all of that because the last

719
00:31:19,919 --> 00:31:21,360
thing I want you to do is use your

720
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,919
resources of getting a consultant. Just

721
00:31:23,919 --> 00:31:25,840
give me a call and we could do it

722
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:27,440
together. you've been such wonderful

723
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,919
partners and there's such a need in the

724
00:31:29,919 --> 00:31:32,480
south to talk more specifically about

725
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:38,870
neurodeiversity.

726
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:40,320
Thank you so much commissioner for being

727
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,000
here tonight and for sharing this very

728
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,320
valuable information and I do hope that

729
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,480
we can be advocates to continue the

730
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,240
messaging and to incorporate a lot of

731
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,080
the tools that you're mentioning into

732
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,720
our process um improvement plans for the

733
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,399
future. I do have a question regarding

734
00:31:54,399 --> 00:31:56,399
the uh police department's access for

735
00:31:56,399 --> 00:31:58,320
the vehicle registration at the county

736
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,240
level. Is that automatically generating

737
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:01,519
for our officers?

738
00:32:01,519 --> 00:32:02,000
>> Yes.

739
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:02,880
>> Perfect. Yes.

740
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:04,880
>> And then with regards to the trainings

741
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:06,399
that you mentioned, has that already

742
00:32:06,399 --> 00:32:08,240
been done? Do we know for for our police

743
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:09,440
department?

744
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,600
>> So, we trained our Miami day county

745
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:12,720
police officers,

746
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:13,279
>> right?

747
00:32:13,279 --> 00:32:15,519
>> So, I don't know what what you guys are

748
00:32:15,519 --> 00:32:17,279
doing and if you've reached out,

749
00:32:17,279 --> 00:32:18,960
>> maybe speak to that. Chief, can you

750
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:20,559
speak to that? Yes, we do training

751
00:32:20,559 --> 00:32:22,480
yearly and as a matter of fact, as a

752
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,080
result of some grant money that we

753
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:25,679
found, we're going to have some autism

754
00:32:25,679 --> 00:32:27,600
training coming up, but we do do it

755
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:28,720
every year.

756
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,080
>> Thank you for that. I I would love the

757
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,080
opportunity for perhaps comparing the

758
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:33,360
training that we've been doing and what

759
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:34,640
we're going to be doing compared to what

760
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,080
the county is doing so that we at least

761
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,240
are making sure that we're touching all

762
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,559
bases and and well-rounded training.

763
00:32:40,559 --> 00:32:42,399
>> So, autism training is a state

764
00:32:42,399 --> 00:32:44,000
requirement, but it's an unfunded

765
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:45,919
mandate, you know, as as the chief all

766
00:32:45,919 --> 00:32:48,559
knows. about. Yes, we you all know about

767
00:32:48,559 --> 00:32:52,159
those. Um, so there is a lot out there

768
00:32:52,159 --> 00:32:56,240
in terms of um virtual training. Uh, but

769
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:57,919
I'm happy to work with you all and and

770
00:32:57,919 --> 00:33:00,240
get card out here. We have some great

771
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:01,840
individuals. One in particular named

772
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,240
Kent. He actually lives in Gasapia now.

773
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,159
Um, and he comes and talks to the

774
00:33:06,159 --> 00:33:08,000
officers about his particular

775
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,200
experience. And I will say talking to

776
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,320
autistic adults that have been detained,

777
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,640
it is really a gamecher. when we talk

778
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,240
about deescalation,

779
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:19,600
>> right? And I have not heard that we're

780
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:20,880
doing that kind of one-on-one

781
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:22,960
face-to-face type of engagement. So, I I

782
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:24,480
would love to see that get incorporated

783
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,960
with our police department. Um, with

784
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,279
regards to inclusivity and inclusion

785
00:33:29,279 --> 00:33:31,519
efforts, um, I know that we have at

786
00:33:31,519 --> 00:33:33,919
least one page within our parks master

787
00:33:33,919 --> 00:33:36,080
plan that speaks to this and I would

788
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,480
invite you to maybe review that and

789
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,399
offer us your insight and ways that we

790
00:33:40,399 --> 00:33:42,640
can maybe improve it and and and expand

791
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,480
on that. And I know the parks our parks

792
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,480
department, our parks director have done

793
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:47,919
a great job in trying to make sure that

794
00:33:47,919 --> 00:33:50,799
as we roll in new playgrounds that we're

795
00:33:50,799 --> 00:33:53,360
making this a priority, but the plan

796
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,679
itself I think could be beefier and I I

797
00:33:55,679 --> 00:33:57,519
would love your um input and guidance on

798
00:33:57,519 --> 00:33:58,720
that if that's okay.

799
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,480
>> Happy happy to do that and happy to work

800
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:01,840
with your parks department. You know,

801
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:03,120
one of the things that's in the toolkit

802
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,200
is how to do social stories for all of

803
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:09,280
your parks. Um so parks usually um have

804
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,960
ADA compliance full stop. Um what we've

805
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,119
done and we've done it in small parks

806
00:34:15,119 --> 00:34:17,599
and and larger parks too at the county

807
00:34:17,599 --> 00:34:21,280
is um the placement of things is kind of

808
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,639
beyond ADA compliant. So certain swings

809
00:34:24,639 --> 00:34:26,720
right the height of different things

810
00:34:26,720 --> 00:34:29,119
like what we're choosing. Um I don't

811
00:34:29,119 --> 00:34:31,599
think there's like an autism playground

812
00:34:31,599 --> 00:34:34,399
but you can make it autism friendly

813
00:34:34,399 --> 00:34:36,480
right by your selection of certain

814
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,399
things. And then the social stories are

815
00:34:38,399 --> 00:34:40,320
very easy. you just take pictures of the

816
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,560
park and you put it in a PDF and you put

817
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,079
it on the website. That's what we've

818
00:34:44,079 --> 00:34:47,200
done um at our uh on our parks and then

819
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,919
that allows caregivers to see what's

820
00:34:49,919 --> 00:34:52,639
there and to show it to them. That way

821
00:34:52,639 --> 00:34:55,520
they'll want to go to the park.

822
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:56,639
>> Right. Thank you. Because if they can

823
00:34:56,639 --> 00:34:58,480
visualize it ahead of time, the sensory

824
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,400
overload at the time is less

825
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,400
>> Exactly. It reduces the anxiety.

826
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,160
>> Right. And I certainly can appreciate

827
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,440
your sunflower um branding on I don't

828
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:08,960
know who came up with that idea, but

829
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,280
many here know that I love sunflowers

830
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,280
and being in a city where we used to

831
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,760
have fields and fields of sunflowers

832
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,160
iconic for us and now that's sadly gone

833
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,240
away. Uh maybe this is a good time to

834
00:35:20,240 --> 00:35:21,920
announce I'm working on a resolution to

835
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,079
bring for council consideration making

836
00:35:24,079 --> 00:35:26,079
us the sunflower city and potentially

837
00:35:26,079 --> 00:35:27,280
rolling that into some of our

838
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:33,280
landscaping initiatives. But I love the uh parallel messaging that we are,

839
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,119
you know, we see our autistic families

840
00:35:35,119 --> 00:35:37,119
and that we are being as inclusive as we

841
00:35:37,119 --> 00:35:39,359
can with respect to making our

842
00:35:39,359 --> 00:35:41,920
playgrounds, our police departments, our

843
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:46,000
process improvements, IDs, jobs, etc. a

844
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,400
focus priority for for those families.

845
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,160
And I think you'll be happy to hear that

846
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,640
we did uh roll out a zero drownings

847
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,320
initiative program. Yes. with the

848
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,000
Children's Trust, which it's not just

849
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,079
learning how to swim, but surviving in

850
00:35:58,079 --> 00:35:59,839
those environments at a very young age.

851
00:35:59,839 --> 00:36:02,240
So, we hope that that mitigates a lot of

852
00:36:02,240 --> 00:36:04,960
those um unfortunate deaths. But again,

853
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:05,440
thank you.

854
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:06,240
>> Thank you.

855
00:36:06,240 --> 00:36:08,560
>> Hey, Vice Mayor.

856
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,800
>> Thank you, Mayor. Definitely. Thank you

857
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:12,720
very much. And you didn't mention um

858
00:36:12,720 --> 00:36:14,800
Councilwoman Navila sponsored a portion

859
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,839
of ArtWalk this year to have things that

860
00:36:17,839 --> 00:36:23,680
were um you know sensory specific for some of our guests that had special

861
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,480
needs. So headphones and just different

862
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,839
um sensory type uh toys. So we are

863
00:36:29,839 --> 00:36:31,760
working on it. One thing that came to

864
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,079
mind as you were talking um an idea for

865
00:36:34,079 --> 00:36:35,680
the parks. I know that a lot of our

866
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,400
special needs um kids and even adults

867
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,560
going to parks have headphones. Maybe

868
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,720
there's an there's something to do with

869
00:36:42,720 --> 00:36:46,480
a QR code that would have some type of

870
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,280
um anxiety reducing sounds or something

871
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,000
that they might be able to I don't know

872
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,560
learn about the park and drown out

873
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,320
noises around them.

874
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,200
>> So, so we have sensory kits and we have

875
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,520
them at libraries and at parks. Um and

876
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,599
then also museums that have autism

877
00:37:03,599 --> 00:37:06,320
friendly designation have them. Um we

878
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:11,040
also have uh we have um earbuds because

879
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,440
depending on the age some of them may

880
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,359
not want the headphones. So it's like

881
00:37:15,359 --> 00:37:17,040
some very little ones and some very

882
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,200
older ones don't want it. So we try to

883
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,440
give them those those options. And then

884
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,000
in the social stories we also to your

885
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,760
point um vice mayor we call out if

886
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,240
there's noise. So for example have a

887
00:37:30,240 --> 00:37:32,320
beautiful park named Ronan. There's

888
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,720
tennis there. So, we're like, "And by

889
00:37:34,720 --> 00:37:36,720
the way, these are the tennis courts

890
00:37:36,720 --> 00:37:39,920
next to the park, right?" So, we we you

891
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:41,680
know, we give them that information. We

892
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:43,280
have another uh beautiful park in my

893
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:44,720
district that's next to the library.

894
00:37:44,720 --> 00:37:46,560
It's a very small park, but we went out

895
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:50,240
of the way um to make it an ADA park um

896
00:37:50,240 --> 00:37:51,920
that's right next to the library because

897
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,400
of its location. It didn't have like a

898
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,160
lot of noise and a lot of movement. So

899
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,079
we're focusing on the more passive ones

900
00:37:58,079 --> 00:38:00,079
and kind of leading with those and

901
00:38:00,079 --> 00:38:01,920
letting parents know that there may be

902
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,160
activity in these other in these other

903
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:05,839
parks because sometimes things are just

904
00:38:05,839 --> 00:38:07,119
colllocated

905
00:38:07,119 --> 00:38:09,920
>> and and there's not much choice. No, I

906
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,000
really appreciate all the uh all the

907
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,160
headway that you're making. Keep us

908
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,800
continuously in the loop so that we can

909
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,520
keep working for our um our residents as

910
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,680
well. uh one of my favorite preschool

911
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:23,920
students who's now 15 was non-verbal for

912
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,000
many years and he's coming tomorrow to

913
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,240
read to the kids which is his like new

914
00:38:28,240 --> 00:38:29,839
favorite thing is to read to children.

915
00:38:29,839 --> 00:38:32,480
Amazing, amazing, amazing. And I and I

916
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,079
know you appreciate this, you know, vice

917
00:38:34,079 --> 00:38:36,000
mayor because we've talked about it. You

918
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,440
know, one of the things that I have and I mentioned it in the toolkit and

919
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,119
that's more of an October thing than an

920
00:38:41,119 --> 00:38:43,359
April thing is the need to have adult

921
00:38:43,359 --> 00:38:45,200
programming. As many of you know, the

922
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,839
world ends at 22 and I've really focused

923
00:38:47,839 --> 00:38:50,079
on getting people to understand why we

924
00:38:50,079 --> 00:38:52,160
need adult programming and how you can

925
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,119
colllocate adult programming with

926
00:38:55,119 --> 00:38:58,400
individuals that have memory issues. The

927
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,200
two communities go very well together.

928
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:04,000
Autistic adults and individuals older

929
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:05,280
individuals that have dementia and

930
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,920
Alzheimer's, a lot of the therapies are

931
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,560
identical and they usually get along

932
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:14,880
very well. So, a as you look at finding

933
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,760
those places, I just want you to

934
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,240
consider that our health system was

935
00:39:20,240 --> 00:39:23,680
built for elderly people. And what

936
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,480
happens after 22 is if you're lucky to

937
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,960
have medwaver, someone goes home with

938
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,040
you. So we literally graduate our

939
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:34,000
children to the couch. And when we talk

940
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:35,680
about that, everyone's like, "Oh, that's

941
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:36,960
great. You get to watch YouTube. You get

942
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:38,880
to go home." That's fine if you're an

943
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:42,320
elderly person and you're you're the the

944
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,839
rest of your life is 7 8 10 11 years.

945
00:39:45,839 --> 00:39:48,400
Not when we're sending you home for 50,

946
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,680
65 years. That's what we're doing. Um,

947
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,200
and I know that's a little jarring to

948
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,359
people when I say it, but it's important

949
00:39:55,359 --> 00:39:58,560
because once once we let them go home,

950
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,040
it's very hard to get them to go to a

951
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,280
program. And that's why I think as a

952
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:04,960
community, we have to start having more

953
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:06,480
events and we have to start talking

954
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,320
about adult programming and the benefit

955
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,240
of adult programming. I have two

956
00:40:10,240 --> 00:40:12,720
children that are very different. One

957
00:40:12,720 --> 00:40:15,760
needs less resources um, and was able to

958
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,760
attend a program that I helped create at

959
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,079
Miami Dade Community College. My

960
00:40:20,079 --> 00:40:21,839
daughter needs a lot more resources and

961
00:40:21,839 --> 00:40:25,440
a lot more care. Um, he can work with

962
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:28,240
supports. She cannot right now, but she

963
00:40:28,240 --> 00:40:30,560
makes jewelry and she gives it away, you

964
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:32,400
know, to the people that go to her adult

965
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,160
daycare and she'll tell you that that's

966
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,119
her job and and she had she's in

967
00:40:37,119 --> 00:40:39,359
vocational training and I think in five

968
00:40:39,359 --> 00:40:42,160
or six years she will be able to do some

969
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,640
volunteer work. It's a developmental

970
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,839
delay. She's 22. Um, but it's a

971
00:40:47,839 --> 00:40:50,079
developmental delay. I don't I I can't

972
00:40:50,079 --> 00:40:51,680
tell you that she'll never work because

973
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:53,760
I don't think that that's the reality.

974
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:55,520
Much like your your visitor in the next

975
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,200
two days, my daughter was non-verbal and

976
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:58,800
I was told that she wouldn't even be

977
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:00,720
able to feed herself and she graduated

978
00:41:00,720 --> 00:41:03,760
from a culinary program. So, so much can

979
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:05,359
be done, you know, for these

980
00:41:05,359 --> 00:41:06,880
individuals. We just have to give them

981
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,119
an opportunity. Um, they just think

982
00:41:09,119 --> 00:41:11,760
differently and they experience the

983
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,000
world differently. And that's why I

984
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:15,280
really wanted to make it about

985
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:18,079
neuroincclusion because we have to focus

986
00:41:18,079 --> 00:41:20,480
on their abilities. They want to work.

987
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,560
They want to be part of our society.

988
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:24,480
When my son was working, you know, we

989
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:25,839
talk about the issues that we have with

990
00:41:25,839 --> 00:41:27,200
employment and retention and how

991
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:28,960
everybody read the 4-hour work week and

992
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,119
it went to their head, a 4-day work week

993
00:41:31,119 --> 00:41:33,599
and it went to their head. Um, but my

994
00:41:33,599 --> 00:41:35,359
son was upset that there was no work on

995
00:41:35,359 --> 00:41:37,280
Labor Day. He wanted to work on Labor

996
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:38,640
Day. He didn't understand why we would

997
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,839
take a Monday off. Um, they're amazing

998
00:41:41,839 --> 00:41:44,319
workers. They have a Puritan work ethic.

999
00:41:44,319 --> 00:41:47,200
They're so excited to be here and to be

1000
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:50,400
involved and to be part of community.

1001
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:54,079
Um, so if if I have one ask is that as a

1002
00:41:54,079 --> 00:41:56,000
community we stop graduating them to the

1003
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,560
couch because they're amazing humans and

1004
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:00,480
it's going to be a lot more complicated

1005
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,200
10 15 years from now when we have this

1006
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,480
ever growing population um that is at

1007
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,119
home with a with a health care aid that

1008
00:42:09,119 --> 00:42:11,280
really cannot provide for them. And we

1009
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:12,800
know that their mental health declines,

1010
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:14,560
that their health declines, and that it

1011
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,200
just spirals into a lot of different

1012
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:21,750
issues uh for all of us.

1013
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:23,599
» Again, thank you for coming down. And as

1014
00:42:23,599 --> 00:42:25,760
promised, we've already added your flag

1015
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:27,920
to our display back here.

1016
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:28,640
>> Thank you.

1017
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:30,480
>> It's not not hot air.

1018
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:31,760
>> Yes.

1019
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:33,040
>> Yeah. I want to say something. Of

1020
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:33,359
course.

1021
00:42:33,359 --> 00:42:34,640
>> Yeah. I want to thank you for being

1022
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,280
here. Okay. And I want to congratulation

1023
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,760
in this toolkit. The neuro inclusion

1024
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:41,599
toolkit is amazing. I think it's a

1025
00:42:41,599 --> 00:42:44,960
proactive tool. Okay. That can avoid a

1026
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:46,800
lot of things bad things happening to

1027
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,680
these to these kids. So, thank you for

1028
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:50,720
that. Okay.

1029
00:42:50,720 --> 00:42:52,480
>> Thank you. Thank you so much.

1030
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,160
>> Before you take off, we're going to

1031
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,640
deviate from the agenda just a little

1032
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:57,440
bit.

1033
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:02,960
>> Uh colleagues, we have in front of us a resolution regarding

1034
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,920
>> the conveyance of a county parcel to the

1035
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,400
city. It should be laying here

1036
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,119
somewhere. It's that uh Thank you. It's

1037
00:43:11,119 --> 00:43:13,920
a property that the county has declared

1038
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:17,359
surplus that we have requested be and

1039
00:43:17,359 --> 00:43:18,960
it's part of the county parks

1040
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,440
department. It's vacant property

1041
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:25,599
surrounded by thousands of units. Um for

1042
00:43:25,599 --> 00:43:27,680
frame of reference, Miss Ramirez, it's

1043
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,480
the 10 acres immediately south of of

1044
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,319
your neighborhood.

1045
00:43:32,319 --> 00:43:35,280
Um, so this has been an initiative by

1046
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,920
Councilman Cannibal working with our our

1047
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,800
city manager. So, Mr. Pearl, if if you

1048
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:45,510
would read that resolution by title

1049
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:46,880
» have the paper copy in front of me.

1050
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,680
Nobody put it on my

1051
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:54,000
>> He needs a Josh has got it.

1052
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,240
>> We're going to do this. She's here.

1053
00:43:56,240 --> 00:43:58,240
should have.

1054
00:43:58,240 --> 00:43:59,680
>> Uh, this is a resolution of the city

1055
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:00,800
council of the city of Homestead,

1056
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:02,800
Florida, requesting Miami Dade County to

1057
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:04,640
convey certain county-owned property

1058
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:06,560
identified by folio number

1059
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:11,030
10-7917-001-0580

1060
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:12,960
to the city of Homestead for public park

1061
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:14,720
purposes, authorizing the city manager

1062
00:44:14,720 --> 00:44:16,240
to accept the property on behalf of the

1063
00:44:16,240 --> 00:44:18,000
city and take any action necessary to

1064
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,000
effectuate the transfer, providing for

1065
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,160
implementation, providing for transmitt,

1066
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,240
and providing for an effective date.

1067
00:44:24,240 --> 00:44:27,119
>> Thank you, Mr. Manager, anything to add?

1068
00:44:27,119 --> 00:44:29,280
>> Uh, nothing much other than that. Uh,

1069
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:29,920
>> do you have this

1070
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,079
>> commissioner? Welcome. We've already met

1071
00:44:32,079 --> 00:44:34,319
with county staff regarding this uh

1072
00:44:34,319 --> 00:44:37,359
potential conveyance. County staff is

1073
00:44:37,359 --> 00:44:39,599
very excit excited and they want to work

1074
00:44:39,599 --> 00:44:43,119
with us. Hopefully by before you go on

1075
00:44:43,119 --> 00:44:45,040
vacation in August, they promised us

1076
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:46,400
that there's going to be traction on

1077
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,640
this. So, we're hoping to expedite the

1078
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,119
process. We this afternoon I believe we

1079
00:44:51,119 --> 00:44:53,119
transmitted all the checklists that they

1080
00:44:53,119 --> 00:44:54,880
had requested with additional uh

1081
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:56,240
materials.

1082
00:44:56,240 --> 00:44:58,000
>> So we are soliciting for your

1083
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,720
cooperation, your support in making this

1084
00:45:00,720 --> 00:45:01,520
possible. Of

1085
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:02,800
>> course I'll talk to Christina about it.

1086
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:03,839
Happy to do it.

1087
00:45:03,839 --> 00:45:05,280
>> Thank you. Appreciate that. Councilman

1088
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:06,880
Cannibal. It's in the heart of your your

1089
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:08,960
district. I know you've worked hard with

1090
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:10,800
other commissioners and our manager to

1091
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,359
get us to the point where we are now. So

1092
00:45:13,359 --> 00:45:15,520
if I could have a motion to adopt this

1093
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:16,560
resolution. Yes.

1094
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,079
>> I do have some questions. Uh if there's

1095
00:45:18,079 --> 00:45:19,200
a motion you want to make it, I'll

1096
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:20,240
second it. But then I do have some

1097
00:45:20,240 --> 00:45:20,720
questions.

1098
00:45:20,720 --> 00:45:23,200
>> Moved by Cannibal, seconded by Avala.

1099
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:24,480
>> Thank you. I do have some questions on

1100
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:26,240
this. I would like for this to come back

1101
00:45:26,240 --> 00:45:28,960
to us for final uh acceptance once we

1102
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:30,800
know that it's not mitigation land and

1103
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:32,800
that we can also make sure that it's

1104
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,040
deed restricted in perpetuity for a

1105
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:36,720
park. So that's something that I want to

1106
00:45:36,720 --> 00:45:38,160
make sure that if we're receiving it and

1107
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:39,440
that we're going to have it that it's

1108
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:43,599
going to be a park 100%. So that's my

1109
00:45:43,599 --> 00:45:44,800
condition on the second. Thank you.

1110
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:46,400
>> And typically that's built into the

1111
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:47,760
conveyance. It's It's

1112
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:49,040
>> not It's not in this.

1113
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:50,880
>> It's titled in the parks department now.

1114
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:52,720
>> Could be. I would hope so. Yes,

1115
00:45:52,720 --> 00:45:54,960
>> I would. No. At the county.

1116
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,200
>> I would I would hope so. Yes,

1117
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:57,920
>> Mr. Mayor.

1118
00:45:57,920 --> 00:45:58,240
>> Yes.

1119
00:45:58,240 --> 00:46:00,560
>> I'm sorry. Just procedural very quickly.

1120
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:02,800
We didn't add this to the agenda at the

1121
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:03,839
beginning of the meeting. Can I have a

1122
00:46:03,839 --> 00:46:06,800
motion to add the to the agenda

1123
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:08,880
>> and then take a vote for adoption?

1124
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:10,720
>> I'll move to add to the So, it's moved

1125
00:46:10,720 --> 00:46:12,960
by Canal, second by Avala to add this

1126
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:14,560
item to the agenda.

1127
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:15,760
>> All in favor?

1128
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:17,760
>> Mr. Ma'am, before you approve the

1129
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:21,760
amended agenda, I want to delete tab 29

1130
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,960
car number 4973.

1131
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:26,319
Vice mayor's permission, we're

1132
00:46:26,319 --> 00:46:28,079
withdrawing that item from the agenda.

1133
00:46:28,079 --> 00:46:31,040
>> Oh, okay. All right. So, do we need two

1134
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:32,880
separate votes to add one and delete

1135
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:33,440
another?

1136
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:35,920
>> We can take them together as to accept

1137
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,560
the amended agenda. going to add the

1138
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:41,359
request for the conveyance to the agenda

1139
00:46:41,359 --> 00:46:45,119
and and defer or delete for tonight tab

1140
00:46:45,119 --> 00:46:47,599
29 with respect to that's the uh

1141
00:46:47,599 --> 00:46:49,839
certificate of use item

1142
00:46:49,839 --> 00:46:50,560
>> is that

1143
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:51,680
>> no

1144
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:53,119
>> it's a fee waiver

1145
00:46:53,119 --> 00:46:54,560
>> that's a fee waver

1146
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:55,280
>> oh that's right

1147
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,119
>> it was before the education committee

1148
00:46:57,119 --> 00:46:57,599
came

1149
00:46:57,599 --> 00:46:58,480
>> gotcha okay

1150
00:46:58,480 --> 00:46:59,839
>> to be so moved

1151
00:46:59,839 --> 00:47:01,599
>> very good so all in favor of that

1152
00:47:01,599 --> 00:47:05,280
addition and the deletion I any opposed

1153
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:07,599
all right so Now,

1154
00:47:07,599 --> 00:47:11,119
um, we're going to vote on the

1155
00:47:11,119 --> 00:47:13,200
resolution requesting the conveyance for

1156
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:14,240
park purposes.

1157
00:47:14,240 --> 00:47:17,200
>> Can we restate the motion?

1158
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,280
>> Right now, the motion as made was just

1159
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:20,800
to adopt the resolution. If you'd like

1160
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:22,800
to make a motion to amend to stipulate

1161
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,359
that it needs to be come back to you for

1162
00:47:25,359 --> 00:47:27,680
review, then we can do that. Or we can

1163
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,160
you can amend the motion to provide that

1164
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:33,119
we'll accept it as long as it's deeded

1165
00:47:33,119 --> 00:47:36,640
as um restrict it has includes a deed

1166
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:39,119
restriction for park for park purposes.

1167
00:47:39,119 --> 00:47:41,200
So you can you can make a motion to

1168
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:42,720
amend

1169
00:47:42,720 --> 00:47:44,240
>> and mitigation free

1170
00:47:44,240 --> 00:47:46,480
>> and that it it's not wetland if that's

1171
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:47,599
>> well that would be part of our due

1172
00:47:47,599 --> 00:47:49,599
diligence before we accepted it.

1173
00:47:49,599 --> 00:47:49,920
>> So

1174
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:51,599
>> but the resolution isn't specific to

1175
00:47:51,599 --> 00:47:53,599
that. So the motion has to be specific

1176
00:47:53,599 --> 00:47:55,839
to that in my in my opinion. But

1177
00:47:55,839 --> 00:47:56,240
>> okay.

1178
00:47:56,240 --> 00:47:57,760
>> So if you want to make the what I'm

1179
00:47:57,760 --> 00:47:59,359
hearing is we'll accept it.

1180
00:47:59,359 --> 00:48:00,800
>> You accept those amendments council and

1181
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:01,359
cannibal.

1182
00:48:01,359 --> 00:48:02,000
>> Yes.

1183
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,880
>> So contingent on it not being wetland

1184
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,200
property and that it is also comes with

1185
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:10,000
a deed restriction that is for park

1186
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:10,880
purposes.

1187
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,359
>> All right. So the maker of the motion

1188
00:48:13,359 --> 00:48:16,800
has accepted that the request of the

1189
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,119
person who seconded the motion. No, he

1190
00:48:19,119 --> 00:48:22,559
accepted it. We're good. All right. So,

1191
00:48:22,559 --> 00:48:24,000
let's have a roll call vote on this

1192
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:24,800
resolution.

1193
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:26,720
>> Councilman Cannibal.

1194
00:48:26,720 --> 00:48:27,920
>> Councilwoman Abula?

1195
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:28,480
>> Yes.

1196
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:29,760
>> Councilwoman Ksky?

1197
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:30,079
>> Yes.

1198
00:48:30,079 --> 00:48:31,200
>> Councilman Fletcher?

1199
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:31,680
>> Yes.

1200
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:32,960
>> Councilman Raw?

1201
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:33,520
>> Yes.

1202
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:34,880
>> Vice Mayor Bailey? Yes.

1203
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:35,680
>> Mayor Losner?

1204
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:36,000
>> Yes.

1205
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:37,359
>> The motion carries.

1206
00:48:37,359 --> 00:48:38,400
>> All right. Thank you.

1207
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,000
>> I will talk to the director first thing

1208
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:40,720
tomorrow.

1209
00:48:40,720 --> 00:48:43,200
>> Thank you. It's always a pleasure.

1210
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:46,319
>> All right. So, let's get focused again.

1211
00:48:46,319 --> 00:48:49,359
I think that takes us now to uh one hour

1212
00:48:49,359 --> 00:48:53,760
in to tab uh to tab two.

1213
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,400
This is a a presentation or is there a

1214
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:57,440
resolution that goes to the

1215
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:11,510
presentation?

1216
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:13,680
» Mayor, if I may while we're taking a

1217
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:15,599
little break. While they're setting up a

1218
00:49:15,599 --> 00:49:16,559
presentation,

1219
00:49:16,559 --> 00:49:19,040
>> just for um city manager's office with

1220
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,280
regards to my end of the year VIP

1221
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,680
Christmas party that I held, I would

1222
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:26,480
like to expand on that and perhaps um

1223
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:28,559
work in some additional programming

1224
00:49:28,559 --> 00:49:31,760
throughout the year that we can um on

1225
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:33,520
the basis of what we heard today and the

1226
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:34,960
toolkit and whatnot. Let's see if we can

1227
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:37,040
get that going sooner than later.

1228
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:40,319
>> Actually, I have some very very good

1229
00:49:40,319 --> 00:49:42,000
suggestion for you. I mentioned at the

1230
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:43,200
beginning of the meeting that I have

1231
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:46,160
some good news. Uh let me let you take

1232
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,400
the thunder. Let me let brief you first

1233
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:50,240
then you can inform your colleagues.

1234
00:49:50,240 --> 00:49:51,359
>> Thank you. I appreciate it because I'm

1235
00:49:51,359 --> 00:49:54,079
also working with um my VIP group to try

1236
00:49:54,079 --> 00:49:56,480
to have soccer programming and that's

1237
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:58,800
you know been a little challenging. So

1238
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,119
um more to come. Thank you.

1239
00:50:01,119 --> 00:50:01,920
>> Thank you.

1240
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,640
>> Okay. Okay. Good afternoon mayor

1241
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,760
council. I will make this two and a half

1242
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,240
minutes if possible at the direction of

1243
00:50:10,240 --> 00:50:11,520
the manager.

1244
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:15,119
>> Um the this item is a discussion item

1245
00:50:15,119 --> 00:50:21,280
and the intent is to provide a brief update to council on uh two

1246
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:24,880
primary initiatives that we have um

1247
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:29,359
before us. Um, I will categorize it with

1248
00:50:29,359 --> 00:50:32,960
the America 250 signage that we are uh

1249
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:36,800
looking to implement or install at the

1250
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:40,000
end of May and will have in place

1251
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,559
through the end of September. Um, and

1252
00:50:42,559 --> 00:50:44,480
then we'll talk a little bit about the

1253
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:47,680
street banner program that will also be

1254
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:50,800
installed uh at the end of May, but will

1255
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:54,720
have a much longer uh shelf life um

1256
00:50:54,720 --> 00:50:56,640
because there are different sequences

1257
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:59,599
and or rather seasons and sequences of

1258
00:50:59,599 --> 00:51:01,920
the banner program.

1259
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,960
Uh last year, if you recall, council

1260
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:09,040
adopted a an America 250 logo in advance

1261
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:12,880
of the city um rolling out a year-long

1262
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:17,520
campaign for in celebration of the 250th

1263
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:21,760
um anniversary of the US. We have um

1264
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,640
worked with a vendor to dis to develop

1265
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:29,280
design concepts for several um banners

1266
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,000
to be installed at city hall, the

1267
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,160
exterior of city hall, the interior of

1268
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:36,880
the chambers and uh at the police

1269
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:39,280
station. And then we we have worked in

1270
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:42,160
conjunction with the CRA uh to develop

1271
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,960
conceptual designs for a street banner

1272
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:48,960
program to be implemented citywide.

1273
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:52,079
uh before you you have um a proof of

1274
00:51:52,079 --> 00:51:56,400
concept that we are proposing

1275
00:51:56,400 --> 00:52:00,800
two banners um to be uh installed again

1276
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,359
at the end of May in advance of uh

1277
00:52:03,359 --> 00:52:05,760
Memorial Day on the east and the west

1278
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:09,040
entrance of city hall. We are also

1279
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:13,680
looking to do uh five banners that uh

1280
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,800
around the column of the exterior of the

1281
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:22,640
city hall building and um half flags uh

1282
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:28,319
towards the bottom portion of the what I call the coliseum feature outside

1283
00:52:28,319 --> 00:52:31,119
of the city hall building.

1284
00:52:31,119 --> 00:52:34,160
The uh half flags are also going to be

1285
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:39,119
installed at the rear of city hall and

1286
00:52:39,119 --> 00:52:43,599
um right outside of the balcony area.

1287
00:52:43,599 --> 00:52:46,240
Uh within chambers, uh we're taking the

1288
00:52:46,240 --> 00:52:50,319
opportunity to enhance chambers a bit by

1289
00:52:50,319 --> 00:52:54,640
introducing two banners um right behind

1290
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:56,800
the deis uh that you're sitting at this

1291
00:52:56,800 --> 00:53:00,640
time uh with the newly adopted

1292
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:03,119
uh city tagline of the future lives

1293
00:53:03,119 --> 00:53:07,200
here. Um the intent is that this banner

1294
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:11,680
can be changed over time um at council's

1295
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:14,640
uh requests um to celebrate many

1296
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:18,240
different things including November's um

1297
00:53:18,240 --> 00:53:20,640
uh the national championship uh of

1298
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:23,599
coming back to uh Homestead. Right. So

1299
00:53:23,599 --> 00:53:25,200
it is it is intended to be

1300
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:28,000
interchangeable. we would just need to

1301
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,480
replace the ribbon itself and install it

1302
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:33,040
with the hardware that would be uh made

1303
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:34,880
permanent.

1304
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:37,920
While we are doing this work, we're also

1305
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,480
proposing um utilize or taking the

1306
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:43,119
opportunity to do a little bit of a

1307
00:53:43,119 --> 00:53:45,680
reconfiguration on the behind the the

1308
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:49,040
deis. Uh we're looking to relocate the

1309
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:51,680
in God we trust signage. We're looking

1310
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:54,240
to make it a little bit bigger as well.

1311
00:53:54,240 --> 00:53:58,079
Um a a few months ago we adopted the

1312
00:53:58,079 --> 00:54:00,720
circular logo as the official as the

1313
00:54:00,720 --> 00:54:04,079
newly official logo of the city. So we

1314
00:54:04,079 --> 00:54:08,480
are proposing to um install a circular

1315
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:11,599
logo in lie of the arch logo that is

1316
00:54:11,599 --> 00:54:16,400
currently there and the current arch

1317
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:19,520
logo that is currently installed uh

1318
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:21,920
behind the deis.

1319
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:23,760
We are going to look to council to give

1320
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:25,440
us some recommendations on what you'd

1321
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:28,240
like to have installed in lie of the

1322
00:54:28,240 --> 00:54:33,680
archway. Um there are some

1323
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:36,640
uh designs imperfection if we remove it.

1324
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:40,400
So we need to uh find a a method to

1325
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:43,200
replace that um replace that that

1326
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:46,000
archway uh that we do not see the

1327
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:48,240
blemishes that's behind uh the the

1328
00:54:48,240 --> 00:54:50,480
panel. So that is something that we can

1329
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:53,119
workshop with council individually but

1330
00:54:53,119 --> 00:54:54,720
that is something that we need to work

1331
00:54:54,720 --> 00:54:56,480
on.

1332
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:59,280
Uh before you you'll see the pro

1333
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:01,599
proposed banners um installed on the

1334
00:55:01,599 --> 00:55:04,400
exterior of the police uh building. This

1335
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:06,720
is the entrance and then we have two

1336
00:55:06,720 --> 00:55:10,160
banners that faces uh Lzner Park and the

1337
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:13,359
Veterans Memorial.

1338
00:55:13,359 --> 00:55:16,640
So that is the update on the America 250

1339
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:18,800
banner installation.

1340
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:22,240
Now we are going to shift uh into the

1341
00:55:22,240 --> 00:55:25,440
street banner locations. Uh so or rather

1342
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:27,760
the street banner program. So the intent

1343
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:31,920
here is that we will have um street

1344
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:34,720
banners that are that is representative

1345
00:55:34,720 --> 00:55:36,240
of

1346
00:55:36,240 --> 00:55:39,440
the city what is happening in the city

1347
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:41,920
um the the entertainment offerings in

1348
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:45,839
the city um installed citywide. Um there

1349
00:55:45,839 --> 00:55:48,880
are some that will be dis specific to

1350
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,040
downtown Homestead and then there are

1351
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:53,599
other banner option or concepts that

1352
00:55:53,599 --> 00:55:57,040
will um live throughout or or rather be

1353
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:58,559
installed throughout the city and

1354
00:55:58,559 --> 00:56:01,760
specifically the major corridors. Uh

1355
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:03,920
we're looking to install these banners

1356
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:06,880
on um

1357
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:10,480
the either decorative poles or uh the

1358
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:13,440
light poles that are owned by our HPS

1359
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:15,520
energy department.

1360
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:18,480
We have also um we've done a ride along.

1361
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:22,079
We've identified several corridors where

1362
00:56:22,079 --> 00:56:24,640
the county owns the street lights and we

1363
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:26,880
have already reached out to the county

1364
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,359
to understand their requirements should

1365
00:56:29,359 --> 00:56:33,520
we want to attach uh to their polls. Uh

1366
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:35,359
the poles that we're proposing for the

1367
00:56:35,359 --> 00:56:37,520
street banners or rather the banners for

1368
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:44,880
the um polls are 48 by 30 and as you see

1369
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:48,079
before you there are different concepts

1370
00:56:48,079 --> 00:56:52,400
that is being presented um what what we

1371
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:56,240
the style or the stylistic um approach

1372
00:56:56,240 --> 00:57:01,280
is the kind of the oneword um

1373
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:04,160
uh verb right the action and then having

1374
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:08,480
some sort of a visual aid that that is

1375
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:11,920
um descriptive of what is happening in

1376
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:14,880
the in the in the city or in the area.

1377
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:17,280
Um as you'll see before you, you have

1378
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:27,440
the downtown Homestead um logo that is a subbrand of the Discover

1379
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:28,960
Homestead brand. So we wanted to keep

1380
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:31,680
our branding consistent. Um, so that is

1381
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:33,440
how you that is what you would see on

1382
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:36,640
all of the Downtown Homestead specific

1383
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:38,319
um banners.

1384
00:57:38,319 --> 00:57:40,559
And then we also have uh several

1385
00:57:40,559 --> 00:57:44,400
concepts um for you know again

1386
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:48,559
entertainment e uh eeries um exploring

1387
00:57:48,559 --> 00:57:52,000
downtown. Um also again the the intent

1388
00:57:52,000 --> 00:58:01,359
is to encourage um folks to visit uh or or dining options and um

1389
00:58:01,359 --> 00:58:03,760
utilize the pedestrian opportunities

1390
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:07,440
that we are presenting. You also have um

1391
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:09,119
again

1392
00:58:09,119 --> 00:58:15,920
uh different different shots of what visitors residents uh are able to

1393
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:18,799
um explore in the downtown area. We have

1394
00:58:18,799 --> 00:58:22,160
some uh seminal theater shots. We've

1395
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:25,520
included, you know, our our standing

1396
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:28,480
holiday uh treatments, whether it's the

1397
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:30,960
race to the fourth. Uh we have been

1398
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:34,640
intentional in incorporating several um

1399
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:37,200
agricultural pictures to make sure that

1400
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:43,359
we we we ensure we uh remain or keep um

1401
00:58:43,359 --> 00:58:47,040
the history of uh the city alive. We've

1402
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:49,119
also talked or incorporated several of

1403
00:58:49,119 --> 00:58:51,119
the Everglades,

1404
00:58:51,119 --> 00:58:54,400
um our the air base, the military

1405
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:57,040
branches. We've incorporated the

1406
00:58:57,040 --> 00:59:00,799
speedway as well as the rodeo. Um and

1407
00:59:00,799 --> 00:59:04,079
then of course we are also looking ahead

1408
00:59:04,079 --> 00:59:08,880
at you know the newly improved um

1409
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:13,200
uh Chrome Avenue what the

1410
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:16,880
PH Sports Hub will look like. And really

1411
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:19,599
what I would like to uh point your

1412
00:59:19,599 --> 00:59:22,400
attention to are these two options which

1413
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:25,760
is again the America 250 um banner and

1414
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:28,480
the future lives here banner. uh this

1415
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:30,880
would be the first as a part of the

1416
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:33,200
first deployment. Right? So these two

1417
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:36,799
banners would be uh installed in concert

1418
00:59:36,799 --> 00:59:38,799
with the other banners that you saw

1419
00:59:38,799 --> 00:59:42,000
earlier. Um we have intentionally

1420
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:46,079
switched the America 250 logo to the

1421
00:59:46,079 --> 00:59:49,280
city um of Homestead logo that we are

1422
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:51,839
able to utilize these banners um in

1423
00:59:51,839 --> 00:59:56,000
future years. Um, and I will from an

1424
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:58,079
investment perspective,

1425
00:59:58,079 --> 01:00:00,480
uh, the improvements to city hall or the

1426
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:03,440
banners to city hall, the PD building,

1427
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:06,720
and the interior of chambers, there's a

1428
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:09,760
fiscal impact of $39,000.

1429
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:12,079
uh on the street banner program, the

1430
01:00:12,079 --> 01:00:14,880
first push. Uh we have uh several

1431
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:19,200
funding sources, ARPA, the

1432
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:23,119
our our CMO communications budget as

1433
01:00:23,119 --> 01:00:26,640
well as the CRA's uh budget for the

1434
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:29,760
banners for the downtown area. And with

1435
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:31,760
that, I think I went to three minutes,

1436
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:34,720
so I apologize, sir. Uh with that, I am

1437
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:36,400
happy to take any questions and or

1438
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:38,720
feedback at this time.

1439
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:40,480
So just to be clear before you want us

1440
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:44,160
to focus primarily tonight on the

1441
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:46,640
interior and exterior of city hall

1442
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:48,480
police station

1443
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:49,200
and

1444
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:51,280
>> street banners that are American

1445
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:53,040
>> the fourth of fourth of July

1446
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:55,599
>> fourth of July that is correct sir

1447
01:00:55,599 --> 01:00:58,559
>> council counciloman Bailey

1448
01:00:58,559 --> 01:01:01,440
>> I'll kick it off thank you um just a

1449
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:04,480
couple a couple um comments if you can

1450
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:06,880
go back to the

1451
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:10,799
250 50 related banners. My only comment

1452
01:01:10,799 --> 01:01:13,200
with that is just trying to visualize it

1453
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:14,559
while you're driving down the street or

1454
01:01:14,559 --> 01:01:17,440
passing by that we might want to take

1455
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:19,920
more better use of the size and make the

1456
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:21,920
lettering and the logo larger.

1457
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:24,720
>> Okay. So, use maybe the similar font to

1458
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:25,440
the

1459
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:27,599
>> America. It could be a little smaller,

1460
01:01:27,599 --> 01:01:31,119
but um take advantage and make it pop.

1461
01:01:31,119 --> 01:01:33,920
As far as behind us, I think it looks

1462
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:37,359
very nice. I don't know what price tag

1463
01:01:37,359 --> 01:01:41,200
removing it and fixing what's behind us,

1464
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:43,680
but I don't necessarily think we need to

1465
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:47,680
switch the logos behind us. I love the

1466
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:51,440
idea of of all these banners and flags,

1467
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:53,119
but as far as what's behind us, I think

1468
01:01:53,119 --> 01:01:54,640
it looks nice now.

1469
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:55,920
>> Just throwing that out there.

1470
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:58,880
>> It does look nice, but personally, I've

1471
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:00,400
always thought it was too low. the

1472
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:02,400
former assistant city manager was left

1473
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:05,280
unsupervised and this was mounted at the

1474
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:07,760
wrong height. I whoever sits in this

1475
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:11,040
seat blocks that and we have all the

1476
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:12,400
dead space

1477
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:14,799
>> above it. That was the thinking that

1478
01:02:14,799 --> 01:02:18,000
it's really too low and not to scale for

1479
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:19,119
the wall.

1480
01:02:19,119 --> 01:02:19,920
>> If that's the case,

1481
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:22,000
>> that that was the thinking.

1482
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:25,359
>> If that's the case, then great. Um and

1483
01:02:25,359 --> 01:02:26,880
the only thing then which we're not

1484
01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:28,640
talking about yet but the the smaller

1485
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:31,680
the future lives here banners for me I

1486
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:33,440
think we have enough to talk about that

1487
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:35,359
is already happening you know in the

1488
01:02:35,359 --> 01:02:37,680
visioning visioning sessions I think

1489
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:39,599
that's great but to advertise something

1490
01:02:39,599 --> 01:02:41,760
that's not quite there yet

1491
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:44,079
>> getting ahead of ourselves and like I

1492
01:02:44,079 --> 01:02:46,240
said I think we have enough that we've

1493
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:47,839
already done okay

1494
01:02:47,839 --> 01:02:51,119
>> advertise that's all I have thank you

1495
01:02:51,119 --> 01:02:53,119
>> are you talking about these that have

1496
01:02:53,119 --> 01:02:55,599
the tagline line or this stuff. Okay.

1497
01:02:55,599 --> 01:02:56,880
>> Gotcha. I agree.

1498
01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:57,680
>> Not now.

1499
01:02:57,680 --> 01:02:58,400
>> Agreed.

1500
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:02,710
>> Okay.

1501
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:03,359
» All right,

1502
01:03:03,359 --> 01:03:05,200
>> Mr. Mayor.

1503
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:07,520
>> Council Fletcher and then Councilwoman.

1504
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:09,680
And not to belabor the subject, I think

1505
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:11,680
all these are great. Some are a little

1506
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:13,920
too busy, but maybe we can tone them

1507
01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:15,520
down a little bit and make them pop like

1508
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:18,000
you said. Um, but I'd like to bring up

1509
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:19,440
again, I've been asking for this for

1510
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:22,079
quite some time on our city letterheads,

1511
01:03:22,079 --> 01:03:23,599
you know, where we have our logo and

1512
01:03:23,599 --> 01:03:25,440
then down the side most of the time we

1513
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:27,920
have the names of everyone. Uh, I'd like

1514
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:31,039
to do the the co-branding

1515
01:03:31,039 --> 01:03:33,920
with the championship race. Uh, soon

1516
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:35,680
we're going to be adding, you know,

1517
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:38,480
Miami FC to Homestead. Uh, and hopefully

1518
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:41,520
a championship there as well. So, uh, we

1519
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:42,960
talked about this quite some time ago,

1520
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:44,640
but we've never really implemented it

1521
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:47,359
yet. And I think we need to to really

1522
01:03:47,359 --> 01:03:49,680
market our facility that's leased by

1523
01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:52,240
NASCAR, but we should be helping that

1524
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:55,200
when we're sending out our normal mail.

1525
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:55,440
>> Thank you.

1526
01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:57,039
>> Well, even on email between now and the

1527
01:03:57,039 --> 01:03:57,440
race,

1528
01:03:57,440 --> 01:03:58,000
>> correct?

1529
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:00,640
>> And do we have their final logo that

1530
01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:03,119
doesn't use the word homestead

1531
01:04:03,119 --> 01:04:04,319
>> uh for SPH?

1532
01:04:04,319 --> 01:04:04,559
>> No.

1533
01:04:04,559 --> 01:04:05,119
No. No.

1534
01:04:05,119 --> 01:04:06,880
>> For the track for this championship

1535
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:07,280
race?

1536
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:07,839
>> We do.

1537
01:04:07,839 --> 01:04:12,640
>> Yeah, we do. And we uh we uh well we are

1538
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:15,359
working with the track to do some

1539
01:04:15,359 --> 01:04:19,119
elements of uh joint

1540
01:04:19,119 --> 01:04:22,160
banners uh as a they are they're working

1541
01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:24,319
with us jointly on the banner program as

1542
01:04:24,319 --> 01:04:28,000
well as the water tower. Um they have

1543
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:30,000
shared with us a design concept. So

1544
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:31,440
mayor and council will the

1545
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:32,799
administration is going to come back

1546
01:04:32,799 --> 01:04:35,440
with all those concepts for your review

1547
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:38,400
and approval before we adopt anything. I

1548
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:40,000
don't recommend we put stuff on our

1549
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:41,280
letterhead with that council's

1550
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:43,920
concurrence first.

1551
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:45,680
>> One final

1552
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:49,599
>> uh I know we reached out to uh

1553
01:04:49,599 --> 01:04:52,400
you said the county owned street lights.

1554
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:54,000
>> Yes sir. Can we reach out to Florida

1555
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:55,200
Power and Light because the main

1556
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:57,359
thoroughfare especially on the in the

1557
01:04:57,359 --> 01:05:00,480
southeast district is Palm Drive and I

1558
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:02,559
know those are FPL street lights but I

1559
01:05:02,559 --> 01:05:04,000
know there's liability that comes with

1560
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:05,039
that as well. So

1561
01:05:05,039 --> 01:05:07,440
>> So last week I reached out to the

1562
01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:10,319
governmental affairs manager for FPL

1563
01:05:10,319 --> 01:05:12,799
because of that as well as some other

1564
01:05:12,799 --> 01:05:15,200
additional unrelated issues. He's

1565
01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:16,799
currently out of the country until the

1566
01:05:16,799 --> 01:05:19,280
27th and he promised me that as soon as

1567
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:20,880
he comes back he's coming to Homestead

1568
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:25,039
to finalize on all pending issues.

1569
01:05:25,039 --> 01:05:26,319
>> Can you go back to the one with the

1570
01:05:26,319 --> 01:05:29,280
tomatoes and the avocados?

1571
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:33,599
>> Okay. Yeah, you passed it. Okay. So,

1572
01:05:33,599 --> 01:05:35,440
you know, to not, and again, not to

1573
01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:38,000
belver the point, but to not have too

1574
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:40,799
many of the Happy Birthday America

1575
01:05:40,799 --> 01:05:43,440
banners downtown.

1576
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:45,680
Why not intersperse

1577
01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:47,839
one of the tomatoes and one of the and I

1578
01:05:47,839 --> 01:05:49,520
like the first avocado and the first

1579
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:52,079
tomato and see that would be my

1580
01:05:52,079 --> 01:05:54,559
preference to alternate the happy

1581
01:05:54,559 --> 01:05:56,079
birthday America

1582
01:05:56,079 --> 01:05:57,359
>> future lives here

1583
01:05:57,359 --> 01:05:59,760
>> with with produce

1584
01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:02,160
future lives here you know and they have

1585
01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:04,400
three different kinds of banners so it's

1586
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:07,440
not so monolithic

1587
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:10,960
>> this in downtown Cro

1588
01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:13,119
and and there are some that we hike that

1589
01:06:13,119 --> 01:06:16,079
we can go forward with later. But, you

1590
01:06:16,079 --> 01:06:18,079
know, as we're going back into and

1591
01:06:18,079 --> 01:06:19,760
really trying to showcase our

1592
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:22,640
agricultural roots, you know, for the

1593
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:25,599
first trunch of banners, if we could if

1594
01:06:25,599 --> 01:06:28,559
we could do that. And I think

1595
01:06:28,559 --> 01:06:30,480
Councilwoman has some comments.

1596
01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:32,559
>> Thank you. Uh, when is when do we think

1597
01:06:32,559 --> 01:06:34,640
we're printing the banners?

1598
01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:36,880
>> Yesterday.

1599
01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:42,000
>> To be installed by Memorial Day weekend.

1600
01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:43,280
the location and all that. We're not

1601
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:44,720
going to have a second hack.

1602
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:45,280
>> Say that again.

1603
01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:47,039
>> For the locations on the map and all

1604
01:06:47,039 --> 01:06:48,640
that, we won't have another hack at

1605
01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:49,119
this, right?

1606
01:06:49,119 --> 01:06:51,280
>> Well, certainly we will because I what I

1607
01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:54,000
imagine to what I imagine will happen is

1608
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:57,440
for May, we may be certainly able to

1609
01:06:57,440 --> 01:07:00,480
install on our pole street lights,

1610
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:02,480
right? Or or decorative lights.

1611
01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:05,280
>> And then maybe the county will will give

1612
01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:09,280
us approval later thereafter. So there

1613
01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:12,799
is I I anticipate there being a rolling

1614
01:07:12,799 --> 01:07:14,559
um implementation that's possible. It

1615
01:07:14,559 --> 01:07:18,799
depends on when the county or FPL um

1616
01:07:18,799 --> 01:07:20,960
gives us a a determination.

1617
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:24,720
>> So for example like Speedway Boulevard

1618
01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:27,760
for race weekend leading up to the race

1619
01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:29,599
and some of those major east west

1620
01:07:29,599 --> 01:07:32,400
corridors where folks would come in from

1621
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:35,920
the west of the track to come in there.

1622
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:38,720
We also touched on some of the Fourth of

1623
01:07:38,720 --> 01:07:41,520
July banners in that corridor when folks

1624
01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:42,720
are coming out there for our

1625
01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:44,240
programming.

1626
01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:47,440
>> Okay. So, a few a few things. The logo

1627
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:50,640
behind the chair for the same reason why

1628
01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:53,440
we you know we want to raise the logo. I

1629
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:54,880
don't think we should replace it with

1630
01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:57,599
another tombstone style sign. Perhaps

1631
01:07:57,599 --> 01:08:00,079
just something simple to hide the defect

1632
01:08:00,079 --> 01:08:02,880
you're referring to. But if the goal is

1633
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:05,920
to be able to see the full logo during

1634
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:08,319
live play of the meetings, I can

1635
01:08:08,319 --> 01:08:09,839
understand why you want to do that. I

1636
01:08:09,839 --> 01:08:11,839
prefer not to spend that kind of money

1637
01:08:11,839 --> 01:08:14,960
if we don't have to. But

1638
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:16,319
I I I agree with the

1639
01:08:16,319 --> 01:08:17,759
>> get it right the second time.

1640
01:08:17,759 --> 01:08:20,799
>> Okay. The the banners on in the inside,

1641
01:08:20,799 --> 01:08:22,960
I don't know if that's necessary. I

1642
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:25,679
think that it it's another distraction

1643
01:08:25,679 --> 01:08:28,640
in the room. It's more work.

1644
01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:32,960
But I do I do like the the alternating

1645
01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:36,960
of the signs. Um the 250 signage per se.

1646
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:38,719
It did it wasn't a wow factor for me.

1647
01:08:38,719 --> 01:08:39,920
I'm not sure if there were other

1648
01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:43,199
renderings to consider, but if it's if

1649
01:08:43,199 --> 01:08:44,480
it this is what we're going to work with

1650
01:08:44,480 --> 01:08:46,799
in terms of in terms of the the basic

1651
01:08:46,799 --> 01:08:49,040
style

1652
01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:50,480
making the verbiage like

1653
01:08:50,480 --> 01:08:51,920
>> mean the ones for outside,

1654
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:53,600
>> right?

1655
01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:55,440
Um,

1656
01:08:55,440 --> 01:08:59,359
let's see what it looks like. Thank you.

1657
01:08:59,359 --> 01:09:01,279
>> Well, what you don't really pick up here

1658
01:09:01,279 --> 01:09:03,440
is kind of the watermark behind it and

1659
01:09:03,440 --> 01:09:05,520
the fireworks.

1660
01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:08,480
It may not be really visible here. I

1661
01:09:08,480 --> 01:09:09,920
think maybe on a printout.

1662
01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:11,600
>> Yeah. I mean, it's temporary. It's not

1663
01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:13,600
permanent. It's just the this year and

1664
01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:15,839
then it's off. Well, we're going to take

1665
01:09:15,839 --> 01:09:18,880
the 250 logo off of these and put our

1666
01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:22,080
round logo on them so that they can be

1667
01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:23,679
used year after year.

1668
01:09:23,679 --> 01:09:25,600
>> So then the background, the blue and all

1669
01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:26,400
that will stay the same

1670
01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:28,480
>> because nobody's proposing that we spend

1671
01:09:28,480 --> 01:09:30,400
this money for these large banners to

1672
01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:32,319
use one time.

1673
01:09:32,319 --> 01:09:33,440
>> Got it. So

1674
01:09:33,440 --> 01:09:35,359
>> we put the brown logo there. We can use

1675
01:09:35,359 --> 01:09:36,960
them for several years.

1676
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:37,759
>> Okay. So

1677
01:09:37,759 --> 01:09:41,120
>> and perhaps in different locations.

1678
01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:43,040
>> Got it. So they'll have fireworks on it

1679
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:44,560
all year long.

1680
01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:45,679
>> Not all year long.

1681
01:09:45,679 --> 01:09:48,000
>> No, no, no. This is just for that period

1682
01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:50,400
this year, Memorial Day to Labor Day for

1683
01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:50,640
the

1684
01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:52,080
>> So you're saying you'll reuse the

1685
01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:53,759
banner, but put a new print on the

1686
01:09:53,759 --> 01:09:54,560
banner

1687
01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:56,239
>> as you phase out the seasons. How are

1688
01:09:56,239 --> 01:09:56,800
you going to reuse?

1689
01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:58,159
>> You're going to take these banners down,

1690
01:09:58,159 --> 01:10:00,239
store them, and put them back up next

1691
01:10:00,239 --> 01:10:00,719
year.

1692
01:10:00,719 --> 01:10:02,080
>> I understand what you're saying, right?

1693
01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:02,960
But they're not going to be a

1694
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:04,400
permanently affixed all year round is

1695
01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:05,440
what I'm saying. No.

1696
01:10:05,440 --> 01:10:08,000
>> Okay. With regards to the branding, I do

1697
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:09,840
believe that we have an opportunity like

1698
01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:12,000
Councilman Fletcher said with

1699
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:14,640
highlighting home of the championship

1700
01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:17,040
race, right? So, we can brand with that

1701
01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:19,360
for this year on all of our templates.

1702
01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:21,280
And then next year, what are we home of?

1703
01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:22,320
the

1704
01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:25,199
>> I don't know FC game, big game,

1705
01:10:25,199 --> 01:10:27,199
whatever. And then the year after that

1706
01:10:27,199 --> 01:10:29,040
or the season

1707
01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:30,239
>> sunflower

1708
01:10:30,239 --> 01:10:32,320
>> home of the sunflower festival coming

1709
01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:33,679
2027, you know,

1710
01:10:33,679 --> 01:10:35,679
>> it's a stinking cover crop. they weren't

1711
01:10:35,679 --> 01:10:36,880
selling them. It was a cover.

1712
01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:38,239
>> It's definitely something that it just

1713
01:10:38,239 --> 01:10:40,400
it throws messaging. It throws a high,

1714
01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:41,520
you know, highlights on what to look

1715
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:44,080
forward to and it's a buzz for whoever's

1716
01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:47,199
receiving it and thank you very much.

1717
01:10:47,199 --> 01:10:50,080
>> So, so great idea on that and I I do

1718
01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:53,360
support that. Uh, in general, the the

1719
01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:55,199
signage and the locations, you know,

1720
01:10:55,199 --> 01:10:59,750
we'll just keep working on it.

1721
01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:01,760
» All right. Thank you very much.

1722
01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:03,280
>> All right. Thank you all. Is does that

1723
01:11:03,280 --> 01:11:04,480
include comments from council?

1724
01:11:04,480 --> 01:11:06,320
Councilman Roth, you're good.

1725
01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:07,920
>> Okay.

1726
01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:10,159
>> All right. So, do you have what you need

1727
01:11:10,159 --> 01:11:12,480
from us on this item at this point?

1728
01:11:12,480 --> 01:11:14,320
>> We do. Thank you very much.

1729
01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:15,600
>> I guess you don't want to jump into

1730
01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:17,360
picking out floor coloring while we're

1731
01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:18,400
decorating. No,

1732
01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:19,920
>> at the direction of the manager.

1733
01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:22,320
>> Let's Let's don't

1734
01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:25,280
That's not the next item. I was kidding.

1735
01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:26,560
As long as we're picking out curtains,

1736
01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:29,040
let's pick out carpet.

1737
01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:31,440
We'll we'll we'll take a break on that.

1738
01:11:31,440 --> 01:11:33,600
All right. Our next item is the approval

1739
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:37,920
of the consent agenda which is tabs 3A

1740
01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:40,560
through

1741
01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:43,040
tab 11.

1742
01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:44,480
>> It's been moved. Do we have a

1743
01:11:44,480 --> 01:11:45,600
>> second with a comment, please? Thank

1744
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:45,840
you.

1745
01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:47,360
>> A second with a comment. Go ahead.

1746
01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:48,159
Comment.

1747
01:11:48,159 --> 01:11:50,960
>> Thank you. I support the consent agenda.

1748
01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:53,520
One point I want to make with regards to

1749
01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:56,159
the PAL gym, not necessarily the

1750
01:11:56,159 --> 01:11:57,920
contract that we're approving under the

1751
01:11:57,920 --> 01:12:01,520
item for the PAL. um as I I do support

1752
01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:05,920
the extra programming and the the the formatting on how the programs will

1753
01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:07,440
be provided to the PAL kids and

1754
01:12:07,440 --> 01:12:09,840
everything in general, but it um I did

1755
01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:12,640
have a briefing with our city manager,

1756
01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:15,760
the police chief, and um in regards to

1757
01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:18,239
the PAL program in general, and that's

1758
01:12:18,239 --> 01:12:19,679
something that I would like for the rest

1759
01:12:19,679 --> 01:12:22,400
of council to be aware of and to review

1760
01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:24,880
hopefully soon. I did receive a memo

1761
01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:27,120
with regards to um their internal

1762
01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:30,480
auditing of the program and um I want to

1763
01:12:30,480 --> 01:12:32,400
continue to have the city and the staff

1764
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:35,360
to support the PAL program as is under

1765
01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:36,800
the Homestead Police Department's

1766
01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:41,199
perview and um I just want to to to give

1767
01:12:41,199 --> 01:12:42,800
you all the opportunity to review that

1768
01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:44,400
information as soon as possible and

1769
01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:46,000
perhaps let's call a sunshine meeting to

1770
01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:47,920
discuss further

1771
01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:50,159
and make sure that if that is the will

1772
01:12:50,159 --> 01:12:52,320
of the council that the staff knows that

1773
01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:57,199
and is able to um um encourage the the

1774
01:12:57,199 --> 01:13:00,480
programming the the the structure of the

1775
01:13:00,480 --> 01:13:03,840
program as well as and the entity uh to

1776
01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:06,800
be maintained as such. And I did request

1777
01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:10,880
for budgeting u information precoid and

1778
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:13,120
I did not receive that yet. I've

1779
01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:15,760
requested it a couple times. So I wanted

1780
01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:19,280
to know if that has been pulled from

1781
01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:21,280
record. I I can't imagine that it's

1782
01:13:21,280 --> 01:13:23,199
difficult for us to find what the budget

1783
01:13:23,199 --> 01:13:25,120
was for a program that we have been

1784
01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:28,560
funding for 2019.

1785
01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:29,679
It's not like it's buried in the

1786
01:13:29,679 --> 01:13:31,040
basement of the old city hall.

1787
01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:32,719
>> Yeah, Councilman, I think the finance

1788
01:13:32,719 --> 01:13:34,719
director pulled up one of the years and

1789
01:13:34,719 --> 01:13:37,199
is working with PD to get additional

1790
01:13:37,199 --> 01:13:38,800
information for you.

1791
01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:40,320
>> Great. Thank you. All right. I'll rest

1792
01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:41,840
there, but that is my second.

1793
01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:44,000
>> Okay. Thank you. All right. Any further

1794
01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:45,920
comments on the approval of the consent

1795
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:48,800
agenda? All right. All in favor?

1796
01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:50,880
>> I. Any oppose?

1797
01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:57,669
All right, Mr. White, have at it.

1798
01:13:57,679 --> 01:13:59,760
» Yes. Quai judicial items. Please be

1799
01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:01,120
advised the following items on the

1800
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:02,960
agenda are quai judicial in nature. If

1801
01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:04,400
you wish to comment upon any of these

1802
01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:05,840
items, please indicate the item number

1803
01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:07,199
you would like to address. When the

1804
01:14:07,199 --> 01:14:08,960
announcement regarding the quai judicial

1805
01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:11,760
item is made, an opportunity for persons

1806
01:14:11,760 --> 01:14:13,840
to speak on each item will be made

1807
01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:15,360
available after the applicant and staff

1808
01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:16,640
have made their presentations on each

1809
01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:19,040
item. swearing in. All testimony,

1810
01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:20,800
including public testimony and evidence,

1811
01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:22,880
will be made under oath or affirmation.

1812
01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:24,320
Additionally, each person who gives

1813
01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:25,760
testimony may may be subject to

1814
01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:27,280
cross-examination.

1815
01:14:27,280 --> 01:14:28,640
If you do not wish to either be

1816
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:31,040
cross-examined or sworn, your testimony

1817
01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:33,199
will be given its due. The general

1818
01:14:33,199 --> 01:14:34,480
public will not be permitted to

1819
01:14:34,480 --> 01:14:36,080
cross-examine witnesses, but the public

1820
01:14:36,080 --> 01:14:38,320
may request the council to ask questions

1821
01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:40,719
of staff or witnesses on their behalf.

1822
01:14:40,719 --> 01:14:42,320
The full agenda packet on each item is

1823
01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:44,640
hereby entered into the record. Persons

1824
01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:46,640
representing organizations must present

1825
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:48,400
evidence of their authority to speak for

1826
01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:51,120
the organization.

1827
01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:52,960
Further details of the quai judicial

1828
01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:54,159
procedures may be obtained from the

1829
01:14:54,159 --> 01:14:55,520
clerk and according to code section

1830
01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:58,239
2-590. Any lobbyists must register

1831
01:14:58,239 --> 01:15:00,239
before addressing the council on any of

1832
01:15:00,239 --> 01:15:02,400
the following items. At this time,

1833
01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:03,920
council members must disclose any

1834
01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:06,400
exparte communications concerning any

1835
01:15:06,400 --> 01:15:08,239
items on the agenda. And I would just

1836
01:15:08,239 --> 01:15:10,960
note that tab 12 and 13 are not quasi

1837
01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:12,719
judicial items. They're legislative

1838
01:15:12,719 --> 01:15:14,960
matters. So we can take those up when we

1839
01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:17,199
get to the legislative matter section.

1840
01:15:17,199 --> 01:15:17,679
>> Okay.

1841
01:15:17,679 --> 01:15:20,159
>> So quazi judicial items for

1842
01:15:20,159 --> 01:15:22,719
consideration this evening would be

1843
01:15:22,719 --> 01:15:26,719
second reading of tab 15, tab 16, tab

1844
01:15:26,719 --> 01:15:38,950
17, tab 18 and tab 19.

1845
01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:42,560
» Well, no 18, not 19.

1846
01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:43,360
15 through 18.

1847
01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:50,390
>> I heard you say 19. It's 18,

1848
01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:52,560
» right? Right. But not part of the the

1849
01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:54,159
same project.

1850
01:15:54,159 --> 01:15:56,719
>> So, do we need to go to the

1851
01:15:56,719 --> 01:15:58,320
>> So,

1852
01:15:58,320 --> 01:16:01,360
19 is the separate item. Yeah. Right.

1853
01:16:01,360 --> 01:16:04,000
>> So, do we need to go first to the second

1854
01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:07,440
reading of the reszoning

1855
01:16:07,440 --> 01:16:09,120
for this package?

1856
01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:11,920
>> That would be correct. But first

1857
01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:13,360
>> disclosures

1858
01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:16,800
>> 15 through 18 project the same.

1859
01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:18,800
>> All right. So then at this time anyone

1860
01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:20,560
in the audience wishing to speak this

1861
01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:22,480
evening please stand raise your right

1862
01:16:22,480 --> 01:16:26,080
hand to be sworn in by the clerk.

1863
01:16:26,080 --> 01:16:28,719
>> You swear by do you hereby swear affirm

1864
01:16:28,719 --> 01:16:30,239
to tell the truth and nothing but the

1865
01:16:30,239 --> 01:16:32,800
truth to help me God.

1866
01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:36,239
You may be seated.

1867
01:16:36,239 --> 01:16:38,000
>> So

1868
01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:39,920
Mr. Mr. Mayor, we can move to the second

1869
01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:43,920
reading uh the resoning tab 15. Um I can

1870
01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:47,440
introduce that as well as tab 16, 17,

1871
01:16:47,440 --> 01:16:48,560
and 18.

1872
01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:51,040
>> Right. Let's let's introduce the entire

1873
01:16:51,040 --> 01:16:52,800
package and then we'll vote in the order

1874
01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:53,760
that's necessary.

1875
01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:54,080
>> Right.

1876
01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:56,000
>> Individually.

1877
01:16:56,000 --> 01:16:58,719
So tab 15, this is a second reading of

1878
01:16:58,719 --> 01:16:59,920
an ordinance to the city of Homestead,

1879
01:16:59,920 --> 01:17:01,120
Florida approving the reszoning as

1880
01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:03,360
requested by Vama LLC and Panko LLC of

1881
01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:05,920
an approximately 62.35 acre parcel of

1882
01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:08,000
land from agricultural AU zoning

1883
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:10,239
district to one family 1/2 acre AU

1884
01:17:10,239 --> 01:17:12,239
zoning district for property generally

1885
01:17:12,239 --> 01:17:16,000
located south of southwest 396 street

1886
01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:18,560
north of 302nd Street and west of

1887
01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:21,280
Southwest 192nd Avenue as legally

1888
01:17:21,280 --> 01:17:24,719
described in exhibit A and providing for conflict severability and

1889
01:17:24,719 --> 01:17:28,000
providing for an effective date. Tab 16,

1890
01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:30,560
car number 4974

1891
01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:32,159
is a res resolution of the city of

1892
01:17:32,159 --> 01:17:34,560
Homestead, Florida, granting site plan

1893
01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:36,719
approval as requested by Bama and Penco

1894
01:17:36,719 --> 01:17:39,920
LLC for the development of 119 single

1895
01:17:39,920 --> 01:17:42,000
family dwelling units within a new

1896
01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:43,679
residential subdivision on an

1897
01:17:43,679 --> 01:17:47,120
approximately 62.35 acre parcel of land.

1898
01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:51,840
Tab 17 is car number 4975.

1899
01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:53,280
It is a resolution of the city of

1900
01:17:53,280 --> 01:17:54,960
Homestead, Florida granting tenants of

1901
01:17:54,960 --> 01:17:57,520
plat approval as requested by Bama and

1902
01:17:57,520 --> 01:18:02,480
Pinko LLC for the development of a 115

1903
01:18:02,480 --> 01:18:04,960
single family unit new residential

1904
01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:08,640
subdivision. And lastly, tab 18, car

1905
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:10,400
number 4976

1906
01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:12,080
is a resolution of the city of Homestead

1907
01:18:12,080 --> 01:18:14,800
Florida granting a variance as requested

1908
01:18:14,800 --> 01:18:17,280
by Obama and Penco LLC from the city

1909
01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:20,480
code of ordinances section 30-981

1910
01:18:20,480 --> 01:18:23,840
regulations to permit a minimum building

1911
01:18:23,840 --> 01:18:27,360
site or lot area of 15,780

1912
01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:32,239
ft where a minimum 1/2 acre 21,780

1913
01:18:32,239 --> 01:18:35,040
ft building site or lot is required for

1914
01:18:35,040 --> 01:18:37,120
each single family dwelling unit. This

1915
01:18:37,120 --> 01:18:39,199
is for the development of 119 single

1916
01:18:39,199 --> 01:18:40,640
family dwelling homes within a new

1917
01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:44,149
residential subdivision.

1918
01:18:44,159 --> 01:18:46,960
» Thank you.

1919
01:18:46,960 --> 01:18:50,239
Any issues with waving the staff report

1920
01:18:50,239 --> 01:18:51,679
and we can come back to staff if

1921
01:18:51,679 --> 01:18:53,280
necessary after the applicant's

1922
01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:56,480
presentation that okay Mr.

1923
01:18:56,480 --> 01:19:07,030
>> Arsen

1924
01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:13,750
Is this mic on?

1925
01:19:13,760 --> 01:19:15,120
» It's on.

1926
01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:16,800
>> Yeah. Just needs to be brought up. Can

1927
01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:17,920
you hear me?

1928
01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:21,199
>> We can hear you.

1929
01:19:21,199 --> 01:19:26,950
>> Thank you, sir.

1930
01:19:26,960 --> 01:19:30,320
» Good evening. Hugo or 71 Burkel Avenue.

1931
01:19:30,320 --> 01:19:33,199
um joined today by my partner Alex Aras

1932
01:19:33,199 --> 01:19:35,360
as well as representatives from LAR

1933
01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:38,400
homes. Um pleasure to be before you. I

1934
01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:40,080
thank you all for your time. I had an

1935
01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:43,040
opportunity to sit with all of you um

1936
01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:45,360
prior to first reading and again uh

1937
01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:47,360
before this evening for second reading.

1938
01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:49,120
Um so I know you're you're familiar with

1939
01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:51,040
the site and the property. I want to

1940
01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:55,440
thank staff for their work with us um in getting this project to to the finish

1941
01:19:55,440 --> 01:20:00,159
line uh we hope uh this evening. and um

1942
01:20:00,159 --> 01:20:02,080
see that we've already uh we're on the

1943
01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:04,159
subject site. So again, um you know,

1944
01:20:04,159 --> 01:20:05,840
just to orient us a little bit, uh the

1945
01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:08,159
eastern portion of our properties, 192nd

1946
01:20:08,159 --> 01:20:11,520
Avenue, uh 296th Street, Avocado is on

1947
01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:16,000
the north side. Um and um basically a

1948
01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:19,280
budding to the north, um the under

1949
01:20:19,280 --> 01:20:21,920
construction Aspen Estates project that

1950
01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:24,560
you see on the on the screen there, uh

1951
01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:25,920
under development and under construction

1952
01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:28,080
and approved by this council. And I I

1953
01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:30,800
will come back to that approval um in a

1954
01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:33,600
few slides. Um because the the really

1955
01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:36,640
the the theme of the application when

1956
01:20:36,640 --> 01:20:39,199
first presented to me to submit to the

1957
01:20:39,199 --> 01:20:41,520
city for approval and in my discussions

1958
01:20:41,520 --> 01:20:43,440
with I think all of you throughout time

1959
01:20:43,440 --> 01:20:46,080
was that um having gone through that

1960
01:20:46,080 --> 01:20:48,800
approval process recently the city um

1961
01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:51,840
had expressed you know support for what

1962
01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:54,159
you now see there under development um

1963
01:20:54,159 --> 01:20:56,560
an application that contained the exact

1964
01:20:56,560 --> 01:20:58,400
same four requests before you this

1965
01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:00,640
evening the site plan the tlat the

1966
01:21:00,640 --> 01:21:01,600
resoning

1967
01:21:01,600 --> 01:21:04,960
and the same variance for lot sizes. So,

1968
01:21:04,960 --> 01:21:07,120
um when when LAR came to me, I said,

1969
01:21:07,120 --> 01:21:09,760
"Whatever we do, um let's make sure we

1970
01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:13,120
can match um what this city and council

1971
01:21:13,120 --> 01:21:15,040
have previously approved in the recent

1972
01:21:15,040 --> 01:21:17,520
past." Um that approval happened, uh I

1973
01:21:17,520 --> 01:21:19,679
think not quite 3 years ago, so in the

1974
01:21:19,679 --> 01:21:21,600
recent past. And so, uh what we have

1975
01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:23,840
this evening is a project that, um is

1976
01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:26,880
just a hair under the density that Aspen

1977
01:21:26,880 --> 01:21:28,719
states had approved. and we used that

1978
01:21:28,719 --> 01:21:30,159
kind of as a as a bit of a guiding

1979
01:21:30,159 --> 01:21:32,239
principle. Um we felt that it was

1980
01:21:32,239 --> 01:21:35,840
appropriate to try and uh take a nod to

1981
01:21:35,840 --> 01:21:37,600
what this council had already previously

1982
01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:40,560
approved. Um it also factually and we'll

1983
01:21:40,560 --> 01:21:42,560
see it meant that there were places

1984
01:21:42,560 --> 01:21:44,960
where that project and the roads that

1985
01:21:44,960 --> 01:21:46,320
exist because of that project we're

1986
01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:47,679
going to come into our project. So

1987
01:21:47,679 --> 01:21:50,239
really it it is a continuation of a of a

1988
01:21:50,239 --> 01:21:51,920
theme even though it is two different

1989
01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:54,159
developers but the state homes in in

1990
01:21:54,159 --> 01:21:57,040
this corner of the city which um does

1991
01:21:57,040 --> 01:21:59,199
above your city boundary and um I'll

1992
01:21:59,199 --> 01:22:01,360
show you in a minute that in fact a

1993
01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:03,440
portion of this project once developed

1994
01:22:03,440 --> 01:22:05,040
the one before you this evening a

1995
01:22:05,040 --> 01:22:07,120
portion of it actually is outside of the

1996
01:22:07,120 --> 01:22:09,280
city limits it's in the county that's

1997
01:22:09,280 --> 01:22:11,520
already been through approvals for um

1998
01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:13,600
estates sized homes and so we have

1999
01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:16,639
before you the 62.35 gross acres that

2000
01:22:16,639 --> 01:22:19,199
you have um within your city boundaries.

2001
01:22:19,199 --> 01:22:21,120
Um existing land use designation, state

2002
01:22:21,120 --> 01:22:23,600
density. That is important. I noted it

2003
01:22:23,600 --> 01:22:26,400
obviously first reading talked about um

2004
01:22:26,400 --> 01:22:30,080
the uh the the resoning and and so I

2005
01:22:30,080 --> 01:22:31,280
made the point then and I'll make it

2006
01:22:31,280 --> 01:22:33,440
again now. Um we are not seeking an

2007
01:22:33,440 --> 01:22:35,600
increase in density above that which

2008
01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:37,760
your master plan already contemplates

2009
01:22:37,760 --> 01:22:40,159
for this site. Your master plan has for

2010
01:22:40,159 --> 01:22:42,560
quite some time intended for this site

2011
01:22:42,560 --> 01:22:44,480
to be developed with up to two and a

2012
01:22:44,480 --> 01:22:47,520
half 2.5 dwelling units per acre. And so

2013
01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:50,159
we're below that. We're at 1.98. But

2014
01:22:50,159 --> 01:22:51,920
we're not asking for any additional

2015
01:22:51,920 --> 01:22:53,840
density beyond what your master plan.

2016
01:22:53,840 --> 01:22:55,199
That's important to keep in mind because

2017
01:22:55,199 --> 01:22:57,280
that is what your governing planning

2018
01:22:57,280 --> 01:22:59,920
document um envisions and has envisioned

2019
01:22:59,920 --> 01:23:03,199
for um since the mid200s as far back as

2020
01:23:03,199 --> 01:23:05,440
that could go showing that that property

2021
01:23:05,440 --> 01:23:08,800
for the better part of 20 years uh had

2022
01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:10,880
and there was an expectation that it

2023
01:23:10,880 --> 01:23:12,480
would be developed with estate homes.

2024
01:23:12,480 --> 01:23:14,480
And so, um, it's important to note that

2025
01:23:14,480 --> 01:23:16,719
you get many land use changes, not maybe

2026
01:23:16,719 --> 01:23:18,480
not many, but you do get the you get

2027
01:23:18,480 --> 01:23:19,840
some land use changes sometimes where

2028
01:23:19,840 --> 01:23:22,400
you can do this much on a property, but

2029
01:23:22,400 --> 01:23:24,080
applicants will come in and say, I want

2030
01:23:24,080 --> 01:23:25,600
to do more than what is allowed under

2031
01:23:25,600 --> 01:23:27,280
your master plan. This is not one of

2032
01:23:27,280 --> 01:23:28,800
those cases. I think that's an important

2033
01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:31,520
point uh, worth noting uh, because this

2034
01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:33,120
is already something that's contemplated

2035
01:23:33,120 --> 01:23:35,120
by your master plan. existing zoning

2036
01:23:35,120 --> 01:23:37,120
classification agriculture. I mean, by

2037
01:23:37,120 --> 01:23:38,960
and large, most parcels in Miami Date

2038
01:23:38,960 --> 01:23:43,280
County, both within within Homestead and uninccorporated and and in other

2039
01:23:43,280 --> 01:23:45,040
municipalities, until they are

2040
01:23:45,040 --> 01:23:47,120
developed, they carry with them one of

2041
01:23:47,120 --> 01:23:51,360
two zoning categories, GU um or AU. Many

2042
01:23:51,360 --> 01:23:53,679
carry AU because many were historically

2043
01:23:53,679 --> 01:23:56,080
utilized for agriculture. That doesn't

2044
01:23:56,080 --> 01:23:57,760
mean, however, that the master plan

2045
01:23:57,760 --> 01:23:59,920
doesn't govern the intended use. And

2046
01:23:59,920 --> 01:24:02,000
again, that's the estate density. So

2047
01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:03,440
while the existing zoning is

2048
01:24:03,440 --> 01:24:05,679
agriculture, the master plan has

2049
01:24:05,679 --> 01:24:07,360
contemplated, as I said, for over two

2050
01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:09,360
decades, that this be developed with a

2051
01:24:09,360 --> 01:24:12,080
residential project for a long time. It

2052
01:24:12,080 --> 01:24:14,639
was farmed, much like all of South Bay

2053
01:24:14,639 --> 01:24:17,520
and a lot of our county in general, and

2054
01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:20,239
now we would seek the resoning um to

2055
01:24:20,239 --> 01:24:24,239
allow uh for us to um develop a project

2056
01:24:24,239 --> 01:24:25,600
consistent with your master plan. And

2057
01:24:25,600 --> 01:24:29,199
this is the uh the the graphic. Um it

2058
01:24:29,199 --> 01:24:30,719
struck me when I looked at this graphic

2059
01:24:30,719 --> 01:24:33,040
and just just to point out that the

2060
01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:35,600
community the the much more longer

2061
01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:38,320
established community to the east um on

2062
01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:40,639
the other side of 192nd Avenue and

2063
01:24:40,639 --> 01:24:42,159
there's there's a few different you know

2064
01:24:42,159 --> 01:24:44,080
that's been there for a long long time

2065
01:24:44,080 --> 01:24:47,280
actually has low density um land use

2066
01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:49,840
designation. So, what that means is that

2067
01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:53,120
um it it that area could have up to six

2068
01:24:53,120 --> 01:24:54,800
holding units per acre and and I know

2069
01:24:54,800 --> 01:24:56,239
it's fully developed and it's not

2070
01:24:56,239 --> 01:24:59,440
envisioned, but just as a as a nod um

2071
01:24:59,440 --> 01:25:01,920
while there are, you know, larger estate

2072
01:25:01,920 --> 01:25:04,000
homes there today, there's nothing that

2073
01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:07,520
the master plan um that precludes um at

2074
01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:09,120
some point down the road from people

2075
01:25:09,120 --> 01:25:11,199
perhaps assembling some of that and

2076
01:25:11,199 --> 01:25:14,880
seeking an approval in the future for greater density. That's not possible

2077
01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:17,040
for us. But it was telling to me that

2078
01:25:17,040 --> 01:25:19,679
even an area that has the the larger

2079
01:25:19,679 --> 01:25:22,719
estate home lots, um the city still has

2080
01:25:22,719 --> 01:25:24,880
a more intense land use category. We

2081
01:25:24,880 --> 01:25:26,960
don't have that. We are in the estate

2082
01:25:26,960 --> 01:25:29,520
density uh in its entirety and can't ask

2083
01:25:29,520 --> 01:25:31,440
for that. So again before you this

2084
01:25:31,440 --> 01:25:35,440
evening is the second reading of uh our

2085
01:25:35,440 --> 01:25:37,600
request to resone the property to A2

2086
01:25:37,600 --> 01:25:40,560
which is your 1/2 acre estates site plan

2087
01:25:40,560 --> 01:25:42,880
approval um which obviously all of your

2088
01:25:42,880 --> 01:25:45,280
projects require tentative flat approval

2089
01:25:45,280 --> 01:25:46,639
which goes with your site plan approval.

2090
01:25:46,639 --> 01:25:49,520
I'm skipping over but I'm I'm leaving um

2091
01:25:49,520 --> 01:25:52,800
it for to to note that obviously a lot

2092
01:25:52,800 --> 01:25:54,080
of the discussions that I had with all

2093
01:25:54,080 --> 01:25:56,719
of you um regarded the variance and

2094
01:25:56,719 --> 01:26:00,560
again our um guiding light in asking for

2095
01:26:00,560 --> 01:26:02,719
the variance was that it was um

2096
01:26:02,719 --> 01:26:05,120
incredibly consistent almost down to you

2097
01:26:05,120 --> 01:26:08,719
know within 0.02 dwelling units per acre

2098
01:26:08,719 --> 01:26:10,560
um with the community that had been

2099
01:26:10,560 --> 01:26:12,560
approved to the south Aspen Estates and

2100
01:26:12,560 --> 01:26:14,400
I thought that that was telling and

2101
01:26:14,400 --> 01:26:15,840
important. So, the very same variance

2102
01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:18,080
request that this council approved um

2103
01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:20,480
about three years ago, give or take. Um

2104
01:26:20,480 --> 01:26:22,639
I will note there's no CDD request

2105
01:26:22,639 --> 01:26:24,000
before you this evening. I know a

2106
01:26:24,000 --> 01:26:25,920
question came up earlier about um

2107
01:26:25,920 --> 01:26:27,600
perhaps placing some restrictions on on

2108
01:26:27,600 --> 01:26:29,120
a CDD and I can get into that a little

2109
01:26:29,120 --> 01:26:31,600
later, but we will be filing and

2110
01:26:31,600 --> 01:26:33,600
processing for consideration by this

2111
01:26:33,600 --> 01:26:36,400
council a CDD, the creation of a C or

2112
01:26:36,400 --> 01:26:38,239
the recommendation by the city for the

2113
01:26:38,239 --> 01:26:41,040
county commission to create the CDD. I

2114
01:26:41,040 --> 01:26:43,040
have confirmed council woman because I

2115
01:26:43,040 --> 01:26:44,960
don't want to forget later that a CDD

2116
01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:49,120
petition can be made um without where it

2117
01:26:49,120 --> 01:26:52,639
um prevents or prohibits the expansion

2118
01:26:52,639 --> 01:26:55,600
of that CDD um at a later date. So I

2119
01:26:55,600 --> 01:26:57,199
will again we are filing that

2120
01:26:57,199 --> 01:26:58,960
application. We will work that through.

2121
01:26:58,960 --> 01:27:00,480
I I can't make a commitment for an

2122
01:27:00,480 --> 01:27:01,920
application not before you this evening,

2123
01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:05,280
but to the extent that there might be um

2124
01:27:05,280 --> 01:27:08,080
concerns um when that CDD application

2125
01:27:08,080 --> 01:27:10,000
will I mean I actually already texted

2126
01:27:10,000 --> 01:27:14,480
with CDD council. She's assured me that commitment can be made. We can file

2127
01:27:14,480 --> 01:27:16,000
it that way and when it comes before you

2128
01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:17,440
obviously you'll be able to evaluate

2129
01:27:17,440 --> 01:27:19,679
that. It's not before you today. What is

2130
01:27:19,679 --> 01:27:21,040
also though telling is that there will

2131
01:27:21,040 --> 01:27:22,880
be no HOA. I think when we first started

2132
01:27:22,880 --> 01:27:24,960
visiting with some of you prior to first

2133
01:27:24,960 --> 01:27:27,360
reading, there was a discussion. Many of

2134
01:27:27,360 --> 01:27:29,199
LAR's communities had both an HOA and a

2135
01:27:29,199 --> 01:27:31,199
CDD. They they piggyback their

2136
01:27:31,199 --> 01:27:32,560
responsibilities. They they serve

2137
01:27:32,560 --> 01:27:35,360
different functions. Um given that there

2138
01:27:35,360 --> 01:27:37,600
were um this community doesn't have a

2139
01:27:37,600 --> 01:27:40,960
centralized amenity like a clubhouse or

2140
01:27:40,960 --> 01:27:45,040
something that required um other um

2141
01:27:45,040 --> 01:27:49,679
management. um they the LAR is able to

2142
01:27:49,679 --> 01:27:52,000
remove any HOA from here. Obviously,

2143
01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:53,840
that represents a savings for these

2144
01:27:53,840 --> 01:27:55,840
folks. They'll have a CD and we'll have

2145
01:27:55,840 --> 01:27:57,840
the numbers and the price and the amount

2146
01:27:57,840 --> 01:27:59,679
when we come before you at a later date,

2147
01:27:59,679 --> 01:28:02,000
but there will be no HOA. Many of the

2148
01:28:02,000 --> 01:28:04,159
communities do have both. And so, I

2149
01:28:04,159 --> 01:28:05,679
think that, you know, hopefully that

2150
01:28:05,679 --> 01:28:07,840
will be um you know, positively weighed.

2151
01:28:07,840 --> 01:28:09,120
Um this is a different kind of

2152
01:28:09,120 --> 01:28:10,400
community. It's not a gated community.

2153
01:28:10,400 --> 01:28:12,560
It's not a amenitydriven community. is a

2154
01:28:12,560 --> 01:28:13,600
community where folks are going to have

2155
01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:16,400
larger homes and larger lots and um you

2156
01:28:16,400 --> 01:28:18,000
know can can kind of do what they want

2157
01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:20,800
within their their project. Um again and

2158
01:28:20,800 --> 01:28:23,280
I've talked to this um our property in

2159
01:28:23,280 --> 01:28:25,120
yellow 1.98

2160
01:28:25,120 --> 01:28:28,800
units per acre as the states 2.01. So I

2161
01:28:28,800 --> 01:28:35,199
mean again we we um right there and very slightly below. Um so I think that

2162
01:28:35,199 --> 01:28:37,360
it's um telling that that we try to

2163
01:28:37,360 --> 01:28:39,440
match that and try to create something.

2164
01:28:39,440 --> 01:28:41,120
Um, and I will and I'll show you in the

2165
01:28:41,120 --> 01:28:43,440
site plan that again the the the road

2166
01:28:43,440 --> 01:28:45,199
network does connect through. So even

2167
01:28:45,199 --> 01:28:46,480
though these two communities are going

2168
01:28:46,480 --> 01:28:47,760
to are being developed at a different

2169
01:28:47,760 --> 01:28:49,280
time and you know the one to the south

2170
01:28:49,280 --> 01:28:51,199
obviously is under development already

2171
01:28:51,199 --> 01:28:57,199
um folks will have access through for any kind of uh mobility purposes. Um

2172
01:28:57,199 --> 01:28:58,239
and there you have some of the

2173
01:28:58,239 --> 01:28:59,280
information about the surrounding

2174
01:28:59,280 --> 01:29:00,480
properties and I've been touching up on

2175
01:29:00,480 --> 01:29:03,199
all of this um but basically um we are

2176
01:29:03,199 --> 01:29:04,719
consistent with everything around us. we

2177
01:29:04,719 --> 01:29:06,719
are a state density and around this we

2178
01:29:06,719 --> 01:29:08,400
either have estate density or as I noted

2179
01:29:08,400 --> 01:29:10,639
on the east low density we have the same

2180
01:29:10,639 --> 01:29:13,120
zoning category in the county property

2181
01:29:13,120 --> 01:29:14,639
which is a part of this project but in

2182
01:29:14,639 --> 01:29:16,400
the county they have a category called

2183
01:29:16,400 --> 01:29:19,760
EUM it's a state density with EUM um and

2184
01:29:19,760 --> 01:29:21,840
so we are compatible and again there's

2185
01:29:21,840 --> 01:29:24,000
no small single family lots there's no

2186
01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:25,760
town houses here there's none of that so

2187
01:29:25,760 --> 01:29:28,960
it is um compatible in that sense um

2188
01:29:28,960 --> 01:29:30,480
obviously in showing this we we've

2189
01:29:30,480 --> 01:29:32,800
talked a little bit about but here was

2190
01:29:32,800 --> 01:29:34,800
um you know some of the the the

2191
01:29:34,800 --> 01:29:36,480
highlights of that Aspen estate's

2192
01:29:36,480 --> 01:29:38,800
approval, the density, the lot variance

2193
01:29:38,800 --> 01:29:40,719
that it was approved, the tentative plat

2194
01:29:40,719 --> 01:29:42,800
um and the redesation again almost

2195
01:29:42,800 --> 01:29:44,800
mirroring many of the but all of the

2196
01:29:44,800 --> 01:29:48,239
requests um almost down to to the last

2197
01:29:48,239 --> 01:29:50,880
comma or or detail and that um

2198
01:29:50,880 --> 01:29:52,719
compatibility goes through also with the

2199
01:29:52,719 --> 01:29:54,800
development pattern and the road network

2200
01:29:54,800 --> 01:29:57,440
and everything that that is contained. I

2201
01:29:57,440 --> 01:30:00,159
will note because I've been asked before

2202
01:30:00,159 --> 01:30:02,719
um maybe this is a better slide. we we

2203
01:30:02,719 --> 01:30:05,760
don't control. Um, so there's a little

2204
01:30:05,760 --> 01:30:07,840
notch up at the top. You see the little

2205
01:30:07,840 --> 01:30:09,679
rectangle up there that that is owned by

2206
01:30:09,679 --> 01:30:11,600
a different owner. It's my understanding

2207
01:30:11,600 --> 01:30:13,199
that they're into the city or will be

2208
01:30:13,199 --> 01:30:15,520
into the city for a similar type of

2209
01:30:15,520 --> 01:30:17,679
estate home development. Um, at one

2210
01:30:17,679 --> 01:30:19,199
point we had a conversation with them

2211
01:30:19,199 --> 01:30:21,520
that they, you know, for their own

2212
01:30:21,520 --> 01:30:23,120
reasons and they they would not have to,

2213
01:30:23,120 --> 01:30:25,040
of course, didn't didn't see a need to

2214
01:30:25,040 --> 01:30:28,320
join our project. So um, but the the but

2215
01:30:28,320 --> 01:30:31,120
the city is aware that that notch there

2216
01:30:31,120 --> 01:30:33,760
while out of the confines of this

2217
01:30:33,760 --> 01:30:35,440
project will also be developed with

2218
01:30:35,440 --> 01:30:37,120
estate homes. I just mentioned that so

2219
01:30:37,120 --> 01:30:40,639
that um you all can can appreciate that

2220
01:30:40,639 --> 01:30:42,719
it will be the same continuity of of of

2221
01:30:42,719 --> 01:30:46,159
pattern. Um so here's uh the site plan.

2222
01:30:46,159 --> 01:30:49,840
Um the yellow is the county parcel

2223
01:30:49,840 --> 01:30:51,840
um that will be part of this development

2224
01:30:51,840 --> 01:30:53,679
and this community once finished. You

2225
01:30:53,679 --> 01:30:55,679
know, letting the folks um it'll be

2226
01:30:55,679 --> 01:30:58,080
curious, right? So people living sort of

2227
01:30:58,080 --> 01:30:59,600
behind each other or half a block away

2228
01:30:59,600 --> 01:31:00,960
are going to be in the county and not in

2229
01:31:00,960 --> 01:31:03,520
the city. Um but that's where the city

2230
01:31:03,520 --> 01:31:05,280
boundary is. So that parcel is already

2231
01:31:05,280 --> 01:31:07,040
approved in yellow, but as you can see,

2232
01:31:07,040 --> 01:31:08,960
it ties in on the south and on the north

2233
01:31:08,960 --> 01:31:10,880
and in the middle point. And then to the

2234
01:31:10,880 --> 01:31:12,480
south, you see those connection points

2235
01:31:12,480 --> 01:31:15,360
into Aspen. Um, particularly in that

2236
01:31:15,360 --> 01:31:16,880
block in the bottom. And and I will talk

2237
01:31:16,880 --> 01:31:18,080
a little bit about that block because

2238
01:31:18,080 --> 01:31:20,480
that block is the block that contains

2239
01:31:20,480 --> 01:31:23,440
some of those smaller lot sizes. And in

2240
01:31:23,440 --> 01:31:24,880
large part, it's because of the

2241
01:31:24,880 --> 01:31:26,560
configuration of the roads to the south.

2242
01:31:26,560 --> 01:31:27,840
When you look at those two roads to the

2243
01:31:27,840 --> 01:31:32,960
south, you break up that square um and at a at a fixed point, right? and

2244
01:31:32,960 --> 01:31:34,880
you've got to connect exactly with the

2245
01:31:34,880 --> 01:31:36,800
roads that exist to the south, which

2246
01:31:36,800 --> 01:31:38,800
meant that we in in a couple of those

2247
01:31:38,800 --> 01:31:40,800
blocks don't have quite the depth of

2248
01:31:40,800 --> 01:31:42,560
lots. I've gone back to the drawing

2249
01:31:42,560 --> 01:31:44,719
board and I have a couple of thoughts

2250
01:31:44,719 --> 01:31:47,679
and suggestions um for what we can do to

2251
01:31:47,679 --> 01:31:50,159
enable and make sure that the that the

2252
01:31:50,159 --> 01:31:52,320
future residents of those lots even if

2253
01:31:52,320 --> 01:31:55,760
their lots are um the the the two blocks

2254
01:31:55,760 --> 01:31:58,800
are five feet less in depth. So

2255
01:31:58,800 --> 01:32:00,159
obviously that makes a little bit of a

2256
01:32:00,159 --> 01:32:01,679
difference with a backyard with the

2257
01:32:01,679 --> 01:32:03,920
ability to have a pool exactly where you

2258
01:32:03,920 --> 01:32:06,159
want it. And we have some some thought

2259
01:32:06,159 --> 01:32:07,679
given and I'll wait if there's some

2260
01:32:07,679 --> 01:32:09,280
questions as to how we might be able to

2261
01:32:09,280 --> 01:32:11,679
ensure that even those lots even though

2262
01:32:11,679 --> 01:32:13,600
they're a little smaller still can enjoy

2263
01:32:13,600 --> 01:32:16,880
a fully functional backyard. Um and and

2264
01:32:16,880 --> 01:32:20,560
I we have some thoughts for those that I happy to share with all of you.

2265
01:32:20,560 --> 01:32:22,560
We'll get to it. um some of the site

2266
01:32:22,560 --> 01:32:26,000
plan uh uh graphics again the 119 units

2267
01:32:26,000 --> 01:32:28,719
and all the requests um for the variance

2268
01:32:28,719 --> 01:32:30,880
requests um the only variance required

2269
01:32:30,880 --> 01:32:33,520
again is is the uh minimum building site

2270
01:32:33,520 --> 01:32:36,159
the the the lot size and so I want to

2271
01:32:36,159 --> 01:32:39,600
note here that um out of the 119

2272
01:32:39,600 --> 01:32:43,600
the you know 90 whatever it is 24 lots I

2273
01:32:43,600 --> 01:32:44,800
I'll I'll stick to the number on the

2274
01:32:44,800 --> 01:32:49,760
screen 24 lots are under 17,000 so the great majority of the lots are

2275
01:32:49,760 --> 01:32:52,080
actually graded in 17,000 including many

2276
01:32:52,080 --> 01:32:53,920
as you can see like the entirety of

2277
01:32:53,920 --> 01:32:56,400
block 7 which is 19,000 the entirety of

2278
01:32:56,400 --> 01:32:59,760
block 6 which is 18,500 and higher. So

2279
01:32:59,760 --> 01:33:03,520
by no means is the request to bring down

2280
01:33:03,520 --> 01:33:07,360
every lot to the 15,800 or so feet that

2281
01:33:07,360 --> 01:33:10,239
we have in a handful of lots. It's the

2282
01:33:10,239 --> 01:33:12,719
majority of the lots are 1819. All of

2283
01:33:12,719 --> 01:33:14,560
black block 9 as you can see on the

2284
01:33:14,560 --> 01:33:17,440
right is 21,000 with the exception of a

2285
01:33:17,440 --> 01:33:18,639
couple of lots that are actually in

2286
01:33:18,639 --> 01:33:20,800
excess of the halfacre. So again, the

2287
01:33:20,800 --> 01:33:23,120
request is somewhat borne out by the

2288
01:33:23,120 --> 01:33:24,800
road networks and how you break it up

2289
01:33:24,800 --> 01:33:26,480
and then some of the blocks getting a

2290
01:33:26,480 --> 01:33:29,040
little smaller. Um, and also driven

2291
01:33:29,040 --> 01:33:30,639
candidly, as we've discussed with all of

2292
01:33:30,639 --> 01:33:33,440
you, by a lot of market economics. The

2293
01:33:33,440 --> 01:33:35,120
development of the site is a fixed cost.

2294
01:33:35,120 --> 01:33:37,600
The property comes at a fixed cost. I

2295
01:33:37,600 --> 01:33:39,280
mean, whatever the cost of the land is,

2296
01:33:39,280 --> 01:33:41,679
the water and sewer that will be brought

2297
01:33:41,679 --> 01:33:46,239
to this site from the county. We're not going to be taxing the city's

2298
01:33:46,239 --> 01:33:47,840
infrastructure here. we're we're we're

2299
01:33:47,840 --> 01:33:51,440
going to um tap tap into another LAR

2300
01:33:51,440 --> 01:33:53,199
community that has to be brought in at

2301
01:33:53,199 --> 01:33:55,199
the developer's cost. All of those are

2302
01:33:55,199 --> 01:33:56,880
fixed costs regardless of the exact

2303
01:33:56,880 --> 01:33:58,639
number of lots. And so, you know, given

2304
01:33:58,639 --> 01:34:00,159
how expensive land is, how expensive

2305
01:34:00,159 --> 01:34:01,520
development is, how expensive water

2306
01:34:01,520 --> 01:34:03,679
infraure water and sewer infrastructure

2307
01:34:03,679 --> 01:34:06,239
is. The the project before you is the

2308
01:34:06,239 --> 01:34:09,760
one that is able to provide for um a um

2309
01:34:09,760 --> 01:34:12,960
a project that works for all folks. And we've talked a little bit about the

2310
01:34:12,960 --> 01:34:14,560
prices. I mean, these are homes that are

2311
01:34:14,560 --> 01:34:16,159
we anticipate will go on the market

2312
01:34:16,159 --> 01:34:18,560
between the middle 700s to the middle to

2313
01:34:18,560 --> 01:34:24,960
high 800s. So, it's in that spot um of homes that are admittedly step up

2314
01:34:24,960 --> 01:34:26,560
homes. I mean, most folks will buy an

2315
01:34:26,560 --> 01:34:28,000
initial home. It might be a town home.

2316
01:34:28,000 --> 01:34:29,520
It might be a small single family home.

2317
01:34:29,520 --> 01:34:31,679
And this will be obviously uh you know,

2318
01:34:31,679 --> 01:34:33,679
for a lot of folks a second family home

2319
01:34:33,679 --> 01:34:36,880
a little later in their life. um and and

2320
01:34:36,880 --> 01:34:38,400
will provide for that space and

2321
01:34:38,400 --> 01:34:41,120
amenities um that frankly is hard to get

2322
01:34:41,120 --> 01:34:43,280
in most of Day County at this point to

2323
01:34:43,280 --> 01:34:46,480
have 18 19 20 21,000 square feet lots.

2324
01:34:46,480 --> 01:34:48,800
Um here is a graphic depiction. The

2325
01:34:48,800 --> 01:34:51,760
smallest lots um you had it in in the

2326
01:34:51,760 --> 01:34:54,159
tab form or in the chart form. And

2327
01:34:54,159 --> 01:35:00,320
here's the smallest lots. And again the smaller lots are are principally

2328
01:35:00,320 --> 01:35:01,760
driven by the fact that those road

2329
01:35:01,760 --> 01:35:03,840
networks on the west side also break it

2330
01:35:03,840 --> 01:35:06,800
up. And so that is the space that we

2331
01:35:06,800 --> 01:35:09,600
have to so to speak um on on both sides

2332
01:35:09,600 --> 01:35:11,360
of those roads which when you then

2333
01:35:11,360 --> 01:35:13,120
divide it up into the home sites

2334
01:35:13,120 --> 01:35:15,040
generates the the lot sizes that you

2335
01:35:15,040 --> 01:35:17,520
have before you. But it also means that

2336
01:35:17,520 --> 01:35:20,159
it's well into the community will not be

2337
01:35:20,159 --> 01:35:23,600
visible from 296 or 192nd Avenue. That

2338
01:35:23,600 --> 01:35:26,560
is those traversing through the area are

2339
01:35:26,560 --> 01:35:28,400
not although I've said this before, it

2340
01:35:28,400 --> 01:35:30,639
is difficult when you're driving to note

2341
01:35:30,639 --> 01:35:32,960
the difference between a 16,000t lot and

2342
01:35:32,960 --> 01:35:35,360
a 19,000 foot lot. I I I do this for a

2343
01:35:35,360 --> 01:35:36,960
living and driving down the street

2344
01:35:36,960 --> 01:35:38,800
you're you're hardressed because it's

2345
01:35:38,800 --> 01:35:40,639
both width and depth. So you it's really

2346
01:35:40,639 --> 01:35:41,840
hard to see what you're going to see is

2347
01:35:41,840 --> 01:35:43,600
an estateized lot. But nevertheless,

2348
01:35:43,600 --> 01:35:45,840
they are within the community to the

2349
01:35:45,840 --> 01:35:48,159
west side, closer to the county parcel,

2350
01:35:48,159 --> 01:35:49,760
furthest away from the established

2351
01:35:49,760 --> 01:35:52,480
pattern on the east side of 192nd Avenue

2352
01:35:52,480 --> 01:35:54,239
and the major thorough affairs of

2353
01:35:54,239 --> 01:35:57,360
Avocado and 192nd. And I I think we've

2354
01:35:57,360 --> 01:35:59,040
talked about the compatibility of the

2355
01:35:59,040 --> 01:36:02,480
project um substantially. Um the

2356
01:36:02,480 --> 01:36:05,199
tentative plat, which as as you all know

2357
01:36:05,199 --> 01:36:08,000
um is um is is and I'm going to go back

2358
01:36:08,000 --> 01:36:09,280
because I want to touch on one other

2359
01:36:09,280 --> 01:36:12,080
point. um the the tentative plat which

2360
01:36:12,080 --> 01:36:16,000
is your um you know surveyor's review of

2361
01:36:16,000 --> 01:36:17,520
all of the technical requirements of

2362
01:36:17,520 --> 01:36:23,120
state and county uh procedures. So it's mostly governed by state and county

2363
01:36:23,120 --> 01:36:26,400
platting. Um but uh obviously your city

2364
01:36:26,400 --> 01:36:27,679
has an obligation to approve the

2365
01:36:27,679 --> 01:36:28,800
tentative plat.

2366
01:36:28,800 --> 01:36:31,120
is pursuant to your staff's

2367
01:36:31,120 --> 01:36:33,360
recommendation and review consistent

2368
01:36:33,360 --> 01:36:35,120
with the site plan and meets all of the

2369
01:36:35,120 --> 01:36:38,400
requirements um for um the subdivision

2370
01:36:38,400 --> 01:36:40,320
of this parcel. I brought it back to

2371
01:36:40,320 --> 01:36:41,679
this site plan because I wanted to talk

2372
01:36:41,679 --> 01:36:42,880
a little bit because there was a lot of

2373
01:36:42,880 --> 01:36:44,400
discussion. One of the requests that we

2374
01:36:44,400 --> 01:36:46,719
got from staff and again we work closely

2375
01:36:46,719 --> 01:36:48,960
with uh with Miss Storch and and her

2376
01:36:48,960 --> 01:36:50,880
team at development services was the

2377
01:36:50,880 --> 01:36:52,960
desire to have along the northern

2378
01:36:52,960 --> 01:36:55,520
perimeter of the property on 296 along

2379
01:36:55,520 --> 01:36:58,960
the eastern perimeter on 190 second

2380
01:36:58,960 --> 01:37:02,400
avenue on the um 300 street which is a

2381
01:37:02,400 --> 01:37:04,400
street that basically bisects our

2382
01:37:04,400 --> 01:37:05,920
project from the estimates project and

2383
01:37:05,920 --> 01:37:09,920
then on 194th coming down um a wider

2384
01:37:09,920 --> 01:37:12,320
10-foot buffer and I've had some

2385
01:37:12,320 --> 01:37:14,320
discussions about the implications of

2386
01:37:14,320 --> 01:37:16,400
that, but I I think the belief and

2387
01:37:16,400 --> 01:37:18,719
desire was that that buffer um would

2388
01:37:18,719 --> 01:37:21,440
provide again for some visible um

2389
01:37:21,440 --> 01:37:23,679
greater plantings that would provide an

2390
01:37:23,679 --> 01:37:26,400
opportunity for um again folks driving

2391
01:37:26,400 --> 01:37:28,800
through to see a more lushly landscaped

2392
01:37:28,800 --> 01:37:31,760
area rather than folks um not having

2393
01:37:31,760 --> 01:37:33,280
that 10-ft buffer along those

2394
01:37:33,280 --> 01:37:35,280
thoroughares and just being able to see

2395
01:37:35,280 --> 01:37:37,360
more into the backyards of homes. What

2396
01:37:37,360 --> 01:37:40,639
we're proposing here is um with that

2397
01:37:40,639 --> 01:37:44,239
additional 10 feet of planting is and those 10 feet of planting will have

2398
01:37:44,239 --> 01:37:46,639
trees, not bushes. So those trees

2399
01:37:46,639 --> 01:37:48,000
obviously with the rain that we get in

2400
01:37:48,000 --> 01:37:49,600
South Florida will grow and we'll

2401
01:37:49,600 --> 01:37:52,159
provide for a canopy and and a visual

2402
01:37:52,159 --> 01:37:55,040
break um where you know you you won't

2403
01:37:55,040 --> 01:37:57,920
really see on avocado in 192nd in a few

2404
01:37:57,920 --> 01:38:00,000
years the homes that are behind it

2405
01:38:00,000 --> 01:38:02,000
because those lots and we were counting

2406
01:38:02,000 --> 01:38:03,760
them and and most of the lots have eight

2407
01:38:03,760 --> 01:38:06,560
trees across their backyard. Um, so

2408
01:38:06,560 --> 01:38:10,560
they're they're they'll grow and they'll fill out. Um, one other point on

2409
01:38:10,560 --> 01:38:12,239
that that I can confirm. I was asked a

2410
01:38:12,239 --> 01:38:18,960
question by Councilwoman Avula, so I'll jump the gun here is um we are um

2411
01:38:18,960 --> 01:38:22,400
planting um hedges and and and what

2412
01:38:22,400 --> 01:38:24,639
we're doing is they're on the plans

2413
01:38:24,639 --> 01:38:27,840
shown as 3T tall um but they will grow

2414
01:38:27,840 --> 01:38:30,560
to six feet. Now if we plant taller and

2415
01:38:30,560 --> 01:38:32,560
we have one of our sort of land

2416
01:38:32,560 --> 01:38:34,480
development folks here from LAR today.

2417
01:38:34,480 --> 01:38:36,880
If we plant taller hedges today, they

2418
01:38:36,880 --> 01:38:38,639
have to be planted further apart because

2419
01:38:38,639 --> 01:38:40,800
their root structure is larger. If you

2420
01:38:40,800 --> 01:38:44,560
do that, they might stay there. They'll be full size, but because they

2421
01:38:44,560 --> 01:38:46,639
have to be planted further apart

2422
01:38:46,639 --> 01:38:48,400
initially, you'll create gaps. So,

2423
01:38:48,400 --> 01:38:50,239
you'll have the taller, but you'll

2424
01:38:50,239 --> 01:38:52,320
create gaps. And so your concern of

2425
01:38:52,320 --> 01:38:55,119
somebody walking on the sidewalk on 296,

2426
01:38:55,119 --> 01:38:56,320
being able to look into someone's

2427
01:38:56,320 --> 01:39:00,159
backyard would actually be less um

2428
01:39:00,159 --> 01:39:02,800
contained than planting them at 3 ft

2429
01:39:02,800 --> 01:39:05,040
closer and allowing them to grow in to

2430
01:39:05,040 --> 01:39:06,719
their full size of 6 feet. But since

2431
01:39:06,719 --> 01:39:08,800
they're planted at a closer time, they

2432
01:39:08,800 --> 01:39:10,960
grow in and and get closer together. So

2433
01:39:10,960 --> 01:39:12,480
if we plant them taller, they have to be

2434
01:39:12,480 --> 01:39:14,320
planted further apart and they don't

2435
01:39:14,320 --> 01:39:15,920
come in quite as fully and you end up

2436
01:39:15,920 --> 01:39:17,840
with gaps. That's what the plan shows

2437
01:39:17,840 --> 01:39:19,679
today. My hope is that that would

2438
01:39:19,679 --> 01:39:22,320
ameliate your concern because the

2439
01:39:22,320 --> 01:39:24,800
intention is that that does grow to be

2440
01:39:24,800 --> 01:39:26,639
approximately six feet. The fence is 5

2441
01:39:26,639 --> 01:39:28,960
feet that would be six feet on like 6'2.

2442
01:39:28,960 --> 01:39:30,480
So again, unless you're talking about

2443
01:39:30,480 --> 01:39:32,639
someone very tall and by the way, those

2444
01:39:32,639 --> 01:39:34,080
folks would then have to see across 10

2445
01:39:34,080 --> 01:39:37,119
ft wide of trees. So, I I think

2446
01:39:37,119 --> 01:39:39,760
hopefully we we can address um I started

2447
01:39:39,760 --> 01:39:41,760
writing it down as a condition for

2448
01:39:41,760 --> 01:39:43,280
possible approval this evening, but I

2449
01:39:43,280 --> 01:39:47,280
believe what's shown today is the 3 ft

2450
01:39:47,280 --> 01:39:50,159
um tall as a space that will provide for

2451
01:39:50,159 --> 01:39:51,920
that canopy. But I know you've got staff

2452
01:39:51,920 --> 01:39:53,920
here that you can ask that for our our

2453
01:39:53,920 --> 01:39:55,600
goal would be to create, you know,

2454
01:39:55,600 --> 01:39:57,760
something that is that is private. So, I

2455
01:39:57,760 --> 01:39:59,520
did want to talk about that a little

2456
01:39:59,520 --> 01:40:03,440
bit. Um I will say that we are um we we

2457
01:40:03,440 --> 01:40:05,679
have a you know we will be providing a a

2458
01:40:05,679 --> 01:40:08,000
flag. So the middle the one middle green

2459
01:40:08,000 --> 01:40:11,360
parcel that you see there um right there

2460
01:40:11,360 --> 01:40:12,960
um serves two purposes. It's not really

2461
01:40:12,960 --> 01:40:14,960
a common amenity. It is a lift station

2462
01:40:14,960 --> 01:40:16,880
and it is the mailbox kiosk because as

2463
01:40:16,880 --> 01:40:18,560
you all know the US postal service no

2464
01:40:18,560 --> 01:40:20,880
longer delivers to every home. They they

2465
01:40:20,880 --> 01:40:23,600
deliver to um a centralized location for

2466
01:40:23,600 --> 01:40:25,360
every development across the country.

2467
01:40:25,360 --> 01:40:26,960
That is not something we can get out of.

2468
01:40:26,960 --> 01:40:28,960
So that that will have the mailbox kiosk

2469
01:40:28,960 --> 01:40:30,320
and that will also have the lift station

2470
01:40:30,320 --> 01:40:32,639
that we need for our project. Um and so

2471
01:40:32,639 --> 01:40:34,480
we will have a flag there which is the

2472
01:40:34,480 --> 01:40:35,760
kind of the center point of that

2473
01:40:35,760 --> 01:40:38,400
community on 300th street and 194th

2474
01:40:38,400 --> 01:40:40,480
Avenue. I can also say that if it's the

2475
01:40:40,480 --> 01:40:42,320
wish of this council we are happy to

2476
01:40:42,320 --> 01:40:44,560
include a um I had to look up what it's

2477
01:40:44,560 --> 01:40:46,000
called but it's called a flag pole

2478
01:40:46,000 --> 01:40:48,400
bracket and we can install flag pole

2479
01:40:48,400 --> 01:40:51,360
bracket on each home as we construct

2480
01:40:51,360 --> 01:40:54,239
those homes. Um and and you know folks

2481
01:40:54,239 --> 01:40:55,920
can then fly as we discussed sometimes

2482
01:40:55,920 --> 01:40:57,199
it's football season you fly a

2483
01:40:57,199 --> 01:41:00,480
Hurricanes flag or a Notre Dame flag and

2484
01:41:00,480 --> 01:41:02,560
uh uh that was for you Councilman

2485
01:41:02,560 --> 01:41:06,719
Fletcher. Um better luck next year. Um

2486
01:41:06,719 --> 01:41:08,719
but um but obviously American flag

2487
01:41:08,719 --> 01:41:11,119
during all the all of our holidays, an

2488
01:41:11,119 --> 01:41:12,719
Easter flag, well whatever the case may

2489
01:41:12,719 --> 01:41:21,840
be. So the homes will all come with a flag pole bracket. I know that was requested. And again, um, I'll leave some time to discuss, um, I I

2490
01:41:21,840 --> 01:41:24,880
touched on the CD, um, the ability to

2491
01:41:24,880 --> 01:41:26,800
limit the CDD from any future expansion

2492
01:41:26,800 --> 01:41:28,880
when the CD item is before you. So, I I

2493
01:41:28,880 --> 01:41:30,719
had it in my notes that I wanted to

2494
01:41:30,719 --> 01:41:33,199
comment on. And the other one was for

2495
01:41:33,199 --> 01:41:38,310
those lots um,

2496
01:41:38,320 --> 01:41:42,239
in block 10 um, which is the the the

2497
01:41:42,239 --> 01:41:46,000
least deep lots. Um we have some I we

2498
01:41:46,000 --> 01:41:48,080
have some options in which we could

2499
01:41:48,080 --> 01:41:50,400
ensure that even with the slightly

2500
01:41:50,400 --> 01:41:52,719
they're still 131 feet deep. I don't

2501
01:41:52,719 --> 01:41:54,639
want anyone to think that these are like

2502
01:41:54,639 --> 01:41:59,040
not deep lots but other lots are 135 140

2503
01:41:59,040 --> 01:42:01,199
142. So the loss of those three feet

2504
01:42:01,199 --> 01:42:03,199
does impact the usability when you add

2505
01:42:03,199 --> 01:42:06,159
in the setbacks and and so it would be a

2506
01:42:06,159 --> 01:42:07,440
little more challenging for the five

2507
01:42:07,440 --> 01:42:10,239
homes in that block to for instance add

2508
01:42:10,239 --> 01:42:12,800
a pool but just for those five it it

2509
01:42:12,800 --> 01:42:14,560
would you know be a little bit more

2510
01:42:14,560 --> 01:42:16,960
difficult. We do have a solution. we can

2511
01:42:16,960 --> 01:42:20,080
select and put certain models there, the

2512
01:42:20,080 --> 01:42:21,760
smaller models. And obviously since

2513
01:42:21,760 --> 01:42:22,719
they're smaller, there's a little bit

2514
01:42:22,719 --> 01:42:24,480
more room in the back. If if this

2515
01:42:24,480 --> 01:42:25,920
council wishes, we can have a

2516
01:42:25,920 --> 01:42:28,320
conversation during questions, but that

2517
01:42:28,320 --> 01:42:31,280
would ensure that even those five homes

2518
01:42:31,280 --> 01:42:33,280
um would have the opportunity for that

2519
01:42:33,280 --> 01:42:35,600
family that purchases the home to add a

2520
01:42:35,600 --> 01:42:37,280
pool at a later date and have the room

2521
01:42:37,280 --> 01:42:38,639
for it, which, you know, again, not

2522
01:42:38,639 --> 01:42:40,400
every house has a pool and some folks

2523
01:42:40,400 --> 01:42:42,560
may never add one, but giving the option

2524
01:42:42,560 --> 01:42:44,800
is is always a good one. So, um I think

2525
01:42:44,800 --> 01:42:46,639
we've kind of hit on all of the themes

2526
01:42:46,639 --> 01:42:47,920
and we had a lot of questions and I've

2527
01:42:47,920 --> 01:42:49,119
tried to anticipate some of the

2528
01:42:49,119 --> 01:42:51,280
questions um that you've all asked

2529
01:42:51,280 --> 01:42:53,360
already, but I suspect you'll have a few

2530
01:42:53,360 --> 01:42:55,679
more and I'm happy to answer those. Um

2531
01:42:55,679 --> 01:42:58,000
you know, for us, it's about being

2532
01:42:58,000 --> 01:43:00,639
compatible to a recent approval. It's

2533
01:43:00,639 --> 01:43:02,400
about being compatible to the area and

2534
01:43:02,400 --> 01:43:04,320
the community. It's about not seeking

2535
01:43:04,320 --> 01:43:05,760
greater density than that which the

2536
01:43:05,760 --> 01:43:08,400
master plan allows. It's at coming in at

2537
01:43:08,400 --> 01:43:11,440
1.98 dwelling units per acre where you

2538
01:43:11,440 --> 01:43:13,199
could have up to 2.5. That's what your

2539
01:43:13,199 --> 01:43:15,040
master plan says. It's not, you know,

2540
01:43:15,040 --> 01:43:17,360
not us picking a number. Um, it's about

2541
01:43:17,360 --> 01:43:18,960
making sure that the project is

2542
01:43:18,960 --> 01:43:21,040
compatible and will be something proud.

2543
01:43:21,040 --> 01:43:23,440
And, um, you know, on that note, I leave

2544
01:43:23,440 --> 01:43:25,119
you with scrolling through some of the

2545
01:43:25,119 --> 01:43:27,119
architecture, which, you know, I often

2546
01:43:27,119 --> 01:43:29,280
get more comments. Listen, architecture

2547
01:43:29,280 --> 01:43:31,520
is tough. Colors, everybody, you know,

2548
01:43:31,520 --> 01:43:34,400
we all like what we like, but we did go

2549
01:43:34,400 --> 01:43:36,639
for something different. Lar certainly

2550
01:43:36,639 --> 01:43:38,320
hasn't built this type of home in their

2551
01:43:38,320 --> 01:43:40,719
community. Um, they built a lot more on

2552
01:43:40,719 --> 01:43:42,800
the east side. It's a different typology

2553
01:43:42,800 --> 01:43:45,840
of architecture here. As you can see the

2554
01:43:45,840 --> 01:43:47,600
homes, you know, with the sighting, the

2555
01:43:47,600 --> 01:43:48,960
different color garages. I mean, there's

2556
01:43:48,960 --> 01:43:51,760
a lot that's being done here. Um, homes

2557
01:43:51,760 --> 01:43:53,760
that have their garages on the side, for

2558
01:43:53,760 --> 01:43:55,119
instance. I mean, obviously state homes

2559
01:43:55,119 --> 01:43:56,880
and so you hide the garage entirely. You

2560
01:43:56,880 --> 01:43:59,040
provide relief and elevations at the

2561
01:43:59,040 --> 01:44:01,199
different places. Um, predominantly

2562
01:44:01,199 --> 01:44:02,880
one-story models since the lots are

2563
01:44:02,880 --> 01:44:05,199
bigger. Um, we do and as you can see in

2564
01:44:05,199 --> 01:44:07,679
this graphic and in this one here, there

2565
01:44:07,679 --> 01:44:09,520
are some some two-story models for the

2566
01:44:09,520 --> 01:44:11,119
families that need a little more space

2567
01:44:11,119 --> 01:44:12,480
or want the privacy. Some folks like to

2568
01:44:12,480 --> 01:44:13,679
have their bedroom upstairs, whatever

2569
01:44:13,679 --> 01:44:16,400
the case may be. But again, um, options

2570
01:44:16,400 --> 01:44:18,320
and models and I think color palettes

2571
01:44:18,320 --> 01:44:21,119
that um, hopefully complement a lot of

2572
01:44:21,119 --> 01:44:24,000
what you're seeing um, and and the

2573
01:44:24,000 --> 01:44:25,600
sighting and some of the architectural

2574
01:44:25,600 --> 01:44:28,239
features that uh, hopefully are are um,

2575
01:44:28,239 --> 01:44:31,040
amanable and um, acceptable to to the

2576
01:44:31,040 --> 01:44:32,719
council. and we worked on some of those

2577
01:44:32,719 --> 01:44:34,320
obviously with your development services

2578
01:44:34,320 --> 01:44:36,400
director too. So, um I leave you with

2579
01:44:36,400 --> 01:44:37,360
the pretty pictures because that's

2580
01:44:37,360 --> 01:44:39,119
always the way to do it. I would urge

2581
01:44:39,119 --> 01:44:42,000
you this evening to um approve all four

2582
01:44:42,000 --> 01:44:43,600
requests before you. I will leave it to

2583
01:44:43,600 --> 01:44:45,679
your attorney to tell you the order. Um

2584
01:44:45,679 --> 01:44:47,920
I thank you all for your time because I

2585
01:44:47,920 --> 01:44:49,280
know we met on several occasions with

2586
01:44:49,280 --> 01:44:50,639
all of you and I look forward to

2587
01:44:50,639 --> 01:44:52,639
answering your questions. Thank you.

2588
01:44:52,639 --> 01:44:54,960
>> Thank you, Mr. Arza. Let me before we

2589
01:44:54,960 --> 01:44:57,760
jump into any questions we may have, let

2590
01:44:57,760 --> 01:45:00,400
me look to the audience and online and

2591
01:45:00,400 --> 01:45:02,159
see if there are any members of the

2592
01:45:02,159 --> 01:45:05,600
public who wish to speak either in favor

2593
01:45:05,600 --> 01:45:07,840
or against

2594
01:45:07,840 --> 01:45:10,239
this package of applications. Is there

2595
01:45:10,239 --> 01:45:12,880
anyone online,

2596
01:45:12,880 --> 01:45:15,520
anyone in the audience would wish to

2597
01:45:15,520 --> 01:45:18,560
speak with respect to

2598
01:45:18,560 --> 01:45:21,520
this new development?

2599
01:45:21,520 --> 01:45:23,840
Okay, then

2600
01:45:23,840 --> 01:45:26,080
last chance. I'll close the public

2601
01:45:26,080 --> 01:45:28,560
hearing then and open it up to council's

2602
01:45:28,560 --> 01:45:30,880
questions and comments who'd like to

2603
01:45:30,880 --> 01:45:34,870
kick it off.

2604
01:45:34,880 --> 01:45:35,679
» All right, go ahead.

2605
01:45:35,679 --> 01:45:37,199
>> Don't all jump at once.

2606
01:45:37,199 --> 01:45:38,719
>> It's and I'm going to say a lot of the

2607
01:45:38,719 --> 01:45:40,000
stuff I want to say are things we've

2608
01:45:40,000 --> 01:45:41,600
already discussed. Okay, good.

2609
01:45:41,600 --> 01:45:42,239
>> Um

2610
01:45:42,239 --> 01:45:45,360
>> I tried I tried I had my list here. It's

2611
01:45:45,360 --> 01:45:47,280
>> um I will I won't be supporting the

2612
01:45:47,280 --> 01:45:48,800
zoning change, but I'm assuming it'll

2613
01:45:48,800 --> 01:45:50,080
pass. And so with that, I'll continue

2614
01:45:50,080 --> 01:45:52,000
with my other comments. Okay. The growth

2615
01:45:52,000 --> 01:45:56,000
is coming, but what we can control is

2616
01:45:56,000 --> 01:45:57,920
whether or not the growth is going to

2617
01:45:57,920 --> 01:46:00,880
erase our image and replace it or if

2618
01:46:00,880 --> 01:46:03,520
it's going to reflect uh what we want it

2619
01:46:03,520 --> 01:46:05,440
to reflect, which is our our homestead

2620
01:46:05,440 --> 01:46:07,119
and agricultural roots and lifestyle

2621
01:46:07,119 --> 01:46:09,440
that we want to preserve. We want it to

2622
01:46:09,440 --> 01:46:12,320
mesh well with our future. Um I can

2623
01:46:12,320 --> 01:46:18,000
appreciate the architectural design that was um

2624
01:46:18,000 --> 01:46:20,560
displayed in this in this plan. I

2625
01:46:20,560 --> 01:46:22,239
appreciate the color scheme. I think it

2626
01:46:22,239 --> 01:46:25,760
looks modern and fresh and can appeal to

2627
01:46:25,760 --> 01:46:27,920
the the the message that I'm trying to

2628
01:46:27,920 --> 01:46:29,920
relay here. What what I am a little

2629
01:46:29,920 --> 01:46:32,800
disappointed with is the landscaping um

2630
01:46:32,800 --> 01:46:34,560
plan in general. I know you mentioned

2631
01:46:34,560 --> 01:46:36,880
about the the hedge, which I can

2632
01:46:36,880 --> 01:46:39,199
understand that they if the hedge is the

2633
01:46:39,199 --> 01:46:41,040
type of plant that can grow to six feet,

2634
01:46:41,040 --> 01:46:43,760
fine. But the pictures that I saw are

2635
01:46:43,760 --> 01:46:45,520
small, more ground covered type of

2636
01:46:45,520 --> 01:46:48,000
hedges that maybe can grow to two feet.

2637
01:46:48,000 --> 01:46:51,679
Um, so I'd like to see that um be more

2638
01:46:51,679 --> 01:46:56,000
specific. And with regards to the just

2639
01:46:56,000 --> 01:46:58,560
the way that the sidewalk uh maybe is

2640
01:46:58,560 --> 01:47:00,560
shaped instead of straight lines, more

2641
01:47:00,560 --> 01:47:04,400
ergonomic or uh curvier shapes. I I

2642
01:47:04,400 --> 01:47:08,080
would have loved to see some more um

2643
01:47:08,080 --> 01:47:10,480
influences for agricultural gardentot

2644
01:47:10,480 --> 01:47:12,159
lifestyle. As you mentioned, this is a

2645
01:47:12,159 --> 01:47:14,000
step up, right? Maybe these families are

2646
01:47:14,000 --> 01:47:16,000
more mature. They have older children.

2647
01:47:16,000 --> 01:47:18,960
they're maybe getting into their uh more

2648
01:47:18,960 --> 01:47:21,360
mature years as parents and spending

2649
01:47:21,360 --> 01:47:23,199
more time at home and gardening and

2650
01:47:23,199 --> 01:47:25,040
things like that. There's the other

2651
01:47:25,040 --> 01:47:26,800
community that we're using as a as a

2652
01:47:26,800 --> 01:47:29,679
base for this one had um garden raised

2653
01:47:29,679 --> 01:47:31,760
garden beds as part of their their site

2654
01:47:31,760 --> 01:47:35,199
plan accommodations. Uh so, you know,

2655
01:47:35,199 --> 01:47:37,280
are these things that you have already

2656
01:47:37,280 --> 01:47:39,679
considered and can potentially um add to

2657
01:47:39,679 --> 01:47:43,600
this to this project? And um and I and I

2658
01:47:43,600 --> 01:47:46,320
hope so because LAR has been very

2659
01:47:46,320 --> 01:47:49,679
successful in creating Agrahood style uh

2660
01:47:49,679 --> 01:47:52,320
communities in Florida and and I would

2661
01:47:52,320 --> 01:47:54,639
expect that you you know that that Lenar

2662
01:47:54,639 --> 01:47:57,440
could be the example and the the can set

2663
01:47:57,440 --> 01:48:00,880
that um standard here in Homestead. Um

2664
01:48:00,880 --> 01:48:02,159
we really don't have a lot of

2665
01:48:02,159 --> 01:48:05,679
opportunity to make these design um

2666
01:48:05,679 --> 01:48:08,880
initiatives um because of everything

2667
01:48:08,880 --> 01:48:10,800
getting built out. So if this is going

2668
01:48:10,800 --> 01:48:13,679
to I would really encourage council to

2669
01:48:13,679 --> 01:48:16,080
try to try to

2670
01:48:16,080 --> 01:48:18,320
include these types of aspects. the

2671
01:48:18,320 --> 01:48:20,639
porches could have been more prominent

2672
01:48:20,639 --> 01:48:23,520
so that you have that um inside that

2673
01:48:23,520 --> 01:48:26,560
more outside living appeal

2674
01:48:26,560 --> 01:48:30,000
and um

2675
01:48:30,000 --> 01:48:32,639
and I think

2676
01:48:32,639 --> 01:48:34,800
you know the fact that there's no HOA is

2677
01:48:34,800 --> 01:48:37,600
definitely a plus but that could have

2678
01:48:37,600 --> 01:48:40,960
been the mechanism to maybe helped with

2679
01:48:40,960 --> 01:48:45,280
um creating um more

2680
01:48:45,280 --> 01:48:47,119
outside areas and amenities for the

2681
01:48:47,119 --> 01:48:49,520
families to enjoy. that could that could

2682
01:48:49,520 --> 01:48:51,520
promote that agricultural loving

2683
01:48:51,520 --> 01:48:52,880
lifestyle. And you know, I know that

2684
01:48:52,880 --> 01:48:55,199
there's the debate of

2685
01:48:55,199 --> 01:48:56,719
that's not the buyer we want to attract,

2686
01:48:56,719 --> 01:48:58,159
but that's the that's the buyer we want

2687
01:48:58,159 --> 01:48:59,920
to have here in Homestead, one who's

2688
01:48:59,920 --> 01:49:02,239
going to continue to promote the voice

2689
01:49:02,239 --> 01:49:05,199
of we're Homestead. We're not other

2690
01:49:05,199 --> 01:49:07,520
areas. So, I I'll rest there. I'd love

2691
01:49:07,520 --> 01:49:10,080
to hear the comments of um of my

2692
01:49:10,080 --> 01:49:13,840
colleagues and and um reserve for

2693
01:49:13,840 --> 01:49:15,920
response later. Thank you.

2694
01:49:15,920 --> 01:49:17,840
>> Thank you, Councilwoman.

2695
01:49:17,840 --> 01:49:19,520
Vice Mayor Bailey.

2696
01:49:19,520 --> 01:49:21,520
>> Thank you, Mayor.

2697
01:49:21,520 --> 01:49:23,199
I definitely would like to hear some

2698
01:49:23,199 --> 01:49:26,880
more comments from you all as well. Um,

2699
01:49:26,880 --> 01:49:28,239
you know, a lot of times when these

2700
01:49:28,239 --> 01:49:31,920
variances come up, there is no hardship

2701
01:49:31,920 --> 01:49:35,119
and we understand that it's a matter of

2702
01:49:35,119 --> 01:49:36,960
maybe making it a little more uniform,

2703
01:49:36,960 --> 01:49:39,520
getting a couple more units in there,

2704
01:49:39,520 --> 01:49:41,280
which I can appreciate is in the end

2705
01:49:41,280 --> 01:49:43,280
going to lower the price a little bit

2706
01:49:43,280 --> 01:49:47,760
for our residents. But at the same time,

2707
01:49:47,760 --> 01:49:50,400
Um, offering to put in a smaller house

2708
01:49:50,400 --> 01:49:51,840
so that they can potentially have a

2709
01:49:51,840 --> 01:49:55,199
pool. Definitely not what we're looking

2710
01:49:55,199 --> 01:49:56,800
for. Um,

2711
01:49:56,800 --> 01:49:58,159
>> to be fair, I mean, the smaller house

2712
01:49:58,159 --> 01:49:59,679
is, I think, still about 3,000 square

2713
01:49:59,679 --> 01:50:01,360
feet. I mean, no one would be I mean,

2714
01:50:01,360 --> 01:50:03,520
it's still a a large home, but just I

2715
01:50:03,520 --> 01:50:05,360
mean, I I if I said it that way, I just

2716
01:50:05,360 --> 01:50:07,119
want to clarify that point. I mean, it's

2717
01:50:07,119 --> 01:50:09,760
not a small home.

2718
01:50:09,760 --> 01:50:12,800
>> I understand that. But to get into the

2719
01:50:12,800 --> 01:50:14,800
thinking about that, then I just start

2720
01:50:14,800 --> 01:50:17,440
going in these crazy rabbit holes of

2721
01:50:17,440 --> 01:50:19,280
trying to imagine what people would

2722
01:50:19,280 --> 01:50:21,040
want. And obviously we are none of us

2723
01:50:21,040 --> 01:50:24,400
are ever going to know. Um, but this is

2724
01:50:24,400 --> 01:50:27,280
one of the last lots that we have for

2725
01:50:27,280 --> 01:50:30,400
these halfacre homes and there is a very

2726
01:50:30,400 --> 01:50:34,639
big difference from the smallest to what

2727
01:50:34,639 --> 01:50:38,639
should be approved. So, raised gardens,

2728
01:50:38,639 --> 01:50:41,840
that was one of one of the small pieces.

2729
01:50:41,840 --> 01:50:43,760
Um,

2730
01:50:43,760 --> 01:50:47,119
that was concessioned for that other

2731
01:50:47,119 --> 01:50:50,480
>> project. Um,

2732
01:50:50,480 --> 01:50:53,760
for me, the side setbacks and the

2733
01:50:53,760 --> 01:50:56,320
backyards are key for homestead. I feel

2734
01:50:56,320 --> 01:51:00,320
like a lot of us do um do our living

2735
01:51:00,320 --> 01:51:02,400
outside of the house as well. Uh, the

2736
01:51:02,400 --> 01:51:04,800
porch is a good is a good point. that

2737
01:51:04,800 --> 01:51:07,199
maybe would be a better concession. I

2738
01:51:07,199 --> 01:51:08,480
know that you're not asking for a

2739
01:51:08,480 --> 01:51:11,040
setback of the 50. What is it? 50.

2740
01:51:11,040 --> 01:51:12,960
>> Yes, front is 50.

2741
01:51:12,960 --> 01:51:14,239
>> Is it 52?

2742
01:51:14,239 --> 01:51:15,920
>> 50.

2743
01:51:15,920 --> 01:51:17,600
>> Um,

2744
01:51:17,600 --> 01:51:20,639
so that's a that's a lot of front yard.

2745
01:51:20,639 --> 01:51:23,760
>> I think that most most people it is a

2746
01:51:23,760 --> 01:51:27,040
backyard thing, but if it does pass

2747
01:51:27,040 --> 01:51:31,199
again that we can um consider having a

2748
01:51:31,199 --> 01:51:33,600
larger porch.

2749
01:51:33,600 --> 01:51:36,960
Um, side setbacks obviously aren't an

2750
01:51:36,960 --> 01:51:39,520
issue here. Um, but that's one thing

2751
01:51:39,520 --> 01:51:42,639
that after you you visit somewhere and

2752
01:51:42,639 --> 01:51:44,639
you just feel that house right next to

2753
01:51:44,639 --> 01:51:48,080
you, that's not um not what we're

2754
01:51:48,080 --> 01:51:52,000
looking for. Um, flag pole bracket,

2755
01:51:52,000 --> 01:51:54,320
right? But we need to talk a little

2756
01:51:54,320 --> 01:51:58,320
more. Um so hence the I would like to

2757
01:51:58,320 --> 01:52:06,629
hear more from my colleagues just because um

2758
01:52:06,639 --> 01:52:09,830
yeah

2759
01:52:09,840 --> 01:52:12,480
I would the one thing I'm glad about is

2760
01:52:12,480 --> 01:52:18,719
that block 11 where they're

2761
01:52:18,719 --> 01:52:22,239
the backyards are facing each other

2762
01:52:22,239 --> 01:52:25,599
before we were able to talk specifics

2763
01:52:25,599 --> 01:52:28,320
with the dimensions there.

2764
01:52:28,320 --> 01:52:30,639
I was going to be a definite no because

2765
01:52:30,639 --> 01:52:32,800
they look smaller than

2766
01:52:32,800 --> 01:52:34,080
>> the middle block or sorry

2767
01:52:34,080 --> 01:52:35,920
>> then block block 10 and 12.

2768
01:52:35,920 --> 01:52:36,880
>> Right. Right.

2769
01:52:36,880 --> 01:52:38,400
>> So 11

2770
01:52:38,400 --> 01:52:39,920
>> if you can point to that.

2771
01:52:39,920 --> 01:52:40,560
>> Yeah. Which is

2772
01:52:40,560 --> 01:52:41,760
>> those are the three blocks with the

2773
01:52:41,760 --> 01:52:42,080
small.

2774
01:52:42,080 --> 01:52:43,440
>> Right. Right. And so that one I have.

2775
01:52:43,440 --> 01:52:44,560
Yeah. There you go.

2776
01:52:44,560 --> 01:52:49,350
>> So they end up being 30

2777
01:52:49,360 --> 01:52:53,599
» 135 to 136 deep. not the 131 of block

2778
01:52:53,599 --> 01:52:57,360
10. Block 12 is also 135 to 136 deep.

2779
01:52:57,360 --> 01:53:01,040
So, um 10 is the one that is by about 5t

2780
01:53:01,040 --> 01:53:03,760
on average less deep

2781
01:53:03,760 --> 01:53:05,679
>> and then those backyards would be 29

2782
01:53:05,679 --> 01:53:06,400
>> width there

2783
01:53:06,400 --> 01:53:07,199
>> 100 ft.

2784
01:53:07,199 --> 01:53:07,679
>> 100.

2785
01:53:07,679 --> 01:53:10,480
>> Yeah. Yeah. The lots are 100 ft wide.

2786
01:53:10,480 --> 01:53:12,400
>> Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean the the homes I

2787
01:53:12,400 --> 01:53:14,800
mean we have no sight setbacks. So, um

2788
01:53:14,800 --> 01:53:18,159
and we have no um lot frontage. The lot

2789
01:53:18,159 --> 01:53:19,760
size varies but not a lot frontage. So

2790
01:53:19,760 --> 01:53:23,520
these homes are going to be your

2791
01:53:23,520 --> 01:53:25,520
neighbor's home and your home are going

2792
01:53:25,520 --> 01:53:28,560
to be to code as far as your code

2793
01:53:28,560 --> 01:53:31,199
requires. So there is no seeing like you

2794
01:53:31,199 --> 01:53:33,119
know it's it's even if this were being

2795
01:53:33,119 --> 01:53:36,800
developed without the size variance lot

2796
01:53:36,800 --> 01:53:39,040
size variance the distance between the

2797
01:53:39,040 --> 01:53:40,560
structures would be exactly the same.

2798
01:53:40,560 --> 01:53:42,880
>> Right. Right. So so we we're not you

2799
01:53:42,880 --> 01:53:45,040
know and that does go a long way to

2800
01:53:45,040 --> 01:53:46,719
giving folks a sense of privacy. Right.

2801
01:53:46,719 --> 01:53:48,159
You can't reach out and touch. I mean,

2802
01:53:48,159 --> 01:53:50,639
no, you've got, you know, 40 to 50 ft

2803
01:53:50,639 --> 01:53:51,920
between you and your neighbor's house

2804
01:53:51,920 --> 01:53:53,520
with your property lineed the way. So,

2805
01:53:53,520 --> 01:53:55,520
there is an ample difference.

2806
01:53:55,520 --> 01:53:57,599
>> And is this one of those projects where

2807
01:53:57,599 --> 01:54:00,239
you are going where LAR is going to

2808
01:54:00,239 --> 01:54:03,119
reach out to potential buyers for them

2809
01:54:03,119 --> 01:54:06,320
to choose the size of the home that goes

2810
01:54:06,320 --> 01:54:06,800
or

2811
01:54:06,800 --> 01:54:09,040
>> Yeah. No, they they absolutely I mean,

2812
01:54:09,040 --> 01:54:11,520
so LAR will will sell it'll have a sales

2813
01:54:11,520 --> 01:54:13,119
center. It'll have a really

2814
01:54:13,119 --> 01:54:15,040
>> a few of the models available. all the

2815
01:54:15,040 --> 01:54:17,199
models if if approved the the the

2816
01:54:17,199 --> 01:54:18,800
various models that you would have and

2817
01:54:18,800 --> 01:54:22,000
then typically a buyer they can correct

2818
01:54:22,000 --> 01:54:23,280
me but I've done this enough times I

2819
01:54:23,280 --> 01:54:25,119
mean a buyer would come in a family they

2820
01:54:25,119 --> 01:54:27,599
come in they look at a lot they may be

2821
01:54:27,599 --> 01:54:29,440
interested in a home and then they

2822
01:54:29,440 --> 01:54:34,320
that's how they generate their price we could in an effort to ensure that

2823
01:54:34,320 --> 01:54:36,159
anyone who ultimately buys a home in

2824
01:54:36,159 --> 01:54:39,920
block 10 we could say in for these five

2825
01:54:39,920 --> 01:54:42,960
out of 119 for these five homes your

2826
01:54:42,960 --> 01:54:45,920
choice is limited to these smaller again

2827
01:54:45,920 --> 01:54:46,880
3,000.

2828
01:54:46,880 --> 01:54:48,159
>> So that's going to be their that's going

2829
01:54:48,159 --> 01:54:51,199
to be their preference. Maybe the 29 ft

2830
01:54:51,199 --> 01:54:52,880
backyard is perfect for them because

2831
01:54:52,880 --> 01:54:55,040
they just want a small patio. So that's

2832
01:54:55,040 --> 01:54:57,040
my point is they would be able to see

2833
01:54:57,040 --> 01:54:58,960
that and know I'm choosing the

2834
01:54:58,960 --> 01:55:00,719
twobedroom or the threebedroom and I'm

2835
01:55:00,719 --> 01:55:02,719
not getting a pool or vice versa.

2836
01:55:02,719 --> 01:55:04,080
>> More like three or four or five. But

2837
01:55:04,080 --> 01:55:06,239
yes, bedrooms. Yes. Yes. I'm absolutely

2838
01:55:06,239 --> 01:55:08,880
right. My backyard. the smallest any of

2839
01:55:08,880 --> 01:55:11,199
those backyards could be would be 29

2840
01:55:11,199 --> 01:55:15,360
>> for the two smallest models. Um either

2841
01:55:15,360 --> 01:55:17,440
of the two smallest models in block 10

2842
01:55:17,440 --> 01:55:19,760
would permit for a 10 by 15.

2843
01:55:19,760 --> 01:55:21,360
>> Correct. But regardless of the size of

2844
01:55:21,360 --> 01:55:23,760
the house, the smallest backyard would

2845
01:55:23,760 --> 01:55:25,760
be 29 ft.

2846
01:55:25,760 --> 01:55:27,520
>> I'd have to double check that. That's a

2847
01:55:27,520 --> 01:55:29,360
number I didn't crunch, but I can. It's

2848
01:55:29,360 --> 01:55:31,679
here. Okay. I mean I Is that

2849
01:55:31,679 --> 01:55:36,800
>> the setback? The required setback is 25.

2850
01:55:36,800 --> 01:55:38,560
>> and you are comp

2851
01:55:38,560 --> 01:55:40,320
>> right so it sounds like yeah because we

2852
01:55:40,320 --> 01:55:41,440
weren't right at the

2853
01:55:41,440 --> 01:55:44,639
>> 25 could be more depending on the

2854
01:55:44,639 --> 01:55:46,880
>> so I guess yes we weren't asking for

2855
01:55:46,880 --> 01:55:48,960
variance so it could have it could have

2856
01:55:48,960 --> 01:55:52,000
been as small as 25 but yes then it's 29

2857
01:55:52,000 --> 01:55:53,679
I'm sorry I gave you that sheet I didn't

2858
01:55:53,679 --> 01:55:54,639
get it back so

2859
01:55:54,639 --> 01:55:56,320
>> I said I I said I'd have it here you

2860
01:55:56,320 --> 01:55:57,199
never came

2861
01:55:57,199 --> 01:55:58,639
>> it's okay so yeah I just didn't have it

2862
01:55:58,639 --> 01:56:00,159
but yes so if that's what that says that

2863
01:56:00,159 --> 01:56:00,639
would be

2864
01:56:00,639 --> 01:56:02,560
>> what other concessions come to mind that

2865
01:56:02,560 --> 01:56:04,400
you can throw out there before My

2866
01:56:04,400 --> 01:56:04,560
comments.

2867
01:56:04,560 --> 01:56:06,480
>> Well, look, I I I'll touch on the the

2868
01:56:06,480 --> 01:56:08,800
issue of the planter boxes. We've talked

2869
01:56:08,800 --> 01:56:10,000
about that. I mean, obviously, Aspen

2870
01:56:10,000 --> 01:56:11,520
Estates, I don't think it's sold out or

2871
01:56:11,520 --> 01:56:14,400
is selling yet. Um, as an offer, as an

2872
01:56:14,400 --> 01:56:16,480
option, I I think we'd be happy to make

2873
01:56:16,480 --> 01:56:19,199
that available to buyers. I think you,

2874
01:56:19,199 --> 01:56:20,400
Councilwoman, I'm going to use your

2875
01:56:20,400 --> 01:56:22,320
words, you yourself said. I mean, look,

2876
01:56:22,320 --> 01:56:23,679
you know, most people if they want that

2877
01:56:23,679 --> 01:56:25,199
will go to Home Depot and buy that for a

2878
01:56:25,199 --> 01:56:26,320
few hundred dollars. I mean, I don't

2879
01:56:26,320 --> 01:56:31,440
think that this is a, you know, but if in an effort to have it be a nod to a

2880
01:56:31,440 --> 01:56:35,199
continuation of a theme. Um, making it

2881
01:56:35,199 --> 01:56:36,800
so that they don't have to go to Home

2882
01:56:36,800 --> 01:56:38,320
Depot that it could be something that

2883
01:56:38,320 --> 01:56:40,560
could be placed there for them, you

2884
01:56:40,560 --> 01:56:42,719
know, a an herb little herb garden or

2885
01:56:42,719 --> 01:56:44,320
whatever the case may be, flowers,

2886
01:56:44,320 --> 01:56:46,960
something to to promote. Um,

2887
01:56:46,960 --> 01:56:48,960
>> to be fair, that was just an example.

2888
01:56:48,960 --> 01:56:50,560
And with the Aspen Estates, they

2889
01:56:50,560 --> 01:56:52,560
actually had a home a homeowners

2890
01:56:52,560 --> 01:56:54,159
association that was going to promote

2891
01:56:54,159 --> 01:56:56,159
special programming within the community

2892
01:56:56,159 --> 01:56:57,920
where there would be,

2893
01:56:57,920 --> 01:57:00,159
>> you know, more participation, organized

2894
01:57:00,159 --> 01:57:02,320
participation. But the I think the

2895
01:57:02,320 --> 01:57:03,679
example is that

2896
01:57:03,679 --> 01:57:06,480
>> it's a very small gesture, right?

2897
01:57:06,480 --> 01:57:08,159
>> That could mean a lot and could

2898
01:57:08,159 --> 01:57:10,239
encourage somebody who may not otherwise

2899
01:57:10,239 --> 01:57:12,239
take the time to do it to start trying.

2900
01:57:12,239 --> 01:57:14,159
>> Yeah. I I don't I don't think we have

2901
01:57:14,159 --> 01:57:16,480
any objection to making that, you know,

2902
01:57:16,480 --> 01:57:17,760
to making that something that can be

2903
01:57:17,760 --> 01:57:18,960
offered. just to

2904
01:57:18,960 --> 01:57:20,880
>> if the programming isn't there in the

2905
01:57:20,880 --> 01:57:22,800
HOA to help with it, then at the same

2906
01:57:22,800 --> 01:57:26,560
time it is a $200 pain in the neck for

2907
01:57:26,560 --> 01:57:26,880
someone.

2908
01:57:26,880 --> 01:57:28,400
>> Sure. Yeah. Well, they can choose it.

2909
01:57:28,400 --> 01:57:29,840
But I'm saying that's what I'm saying. I

2910
01:57:29,840 --> 01:57:31,679
think we can make it an option that we

2911
01:57:31,679 --> 01:57:33,360
would go ahead and when it gets built

2912
01:57:33,360 --> 01:57:35,520
install it so that nobody's got to go do

2913
01:57:35,520 --> 01:57:37,440
it later. That's what I'm offering. And

2914
01:57:37,440 --> 01:57:38,719
that way that might be a person that

2915
01:57:38,719 --> 01:57:40,320
thinks that they want to do it. Yeah. I

2916
01:57:40,320 --> 01:57:42,639
mean, I think it's a I mean, personally,

2917
01:57:42,639 --> 01:57:44,320
I think most homeowners would rather not

2918
01:57:44,320 --> 01:57:46,719
pay an additional HOA fee to, you know,

2919
01:57:46,719 --> 01:57:48,480
I mean, your city has a lot of programs

2920
01:57:48,480 --> 01:57:49,760
to promote farming. I mean, I think

2921
01:57:49,760 --> 01:57:50,960
there's a lot of other ways that folks

2922
01:57:50,960 --> 01:57:52,239
could probably address that, but we

2923
01:57:52,239 --> 01:57:53,520
could give them the option, and I'm

2924
01:57:53,520 --> 01:57:55,520
happy to include giving them the option

2925
01:57:55,520 --> 01:57:57,920
as as an opportunity.

2926
01:57:57,920 --> 01:57:58,639
>> Um,

2927
01:57:58,639 --> 01:58:00,880
>> I mean, thank you.

2928
01:58:00,880 --> 01:58:02,560
>> Thank you, Councilwoman. Council

2929
01:58:02,560 --> 01:58:04,000
Fletcher,

2930
01:58:04,000 --> 01:58:07,679
>> I'll just uh start by saying uh

2931
01:58:07,679 --> 01:58:09,280
ultimately I've never been a fan of the

2932
01:58:09,280 --> 01:58:11,119
architecture that's ever been provided

2933
01:58:11,119 --> 01:58:14,320
to us on any of these projects. Okay. Uh

2934
01:58:14,320 --> 01:58:17,040
but that's my personal preference.

2935
01:58:17,040 --> 01:58:19,440
>> Okay. Uh LAR sells properties all over

2936
01:58:19,440 --> 01:58:20,960
the United States with different styles

2937
01:58:20,960 --> 01:58:22,320
and you could go to their website and

2938
01:58:22,320 --> 01:58:24,159
see and I I may like one more than the

2939
01:58:24,159 --> 01:58:26,080
other. Not up to me. I'm not buying this

2940
01:58:26,080 --> 01:58:27,679
house. I live where I live. I never

2941
01:58:27,679 --> 01:58:29,440
thought I'd like the Mediterranean style

2942
01:58:29,440 --> 01:58:32,480
I live in, but I love it. Um, so I think

2943
01:58:32,480 --> 01:58:34,000
it to each their own when they're buying

2944
01:58:34,000 --> 01:58:37,280
a home. Uh, I I believe the lot sizes

2945
01:58:37,280 --> 01:58:39,119
are comparable to what we've approved in

2946
01:58:39,119 --> 01:58:42,960
the past. Uh, again, would I like to

2947
01:58:42,960 --> 01:58:45,199
have larger lots? Absolutely. But I

2948
01:58:45,199 --> 01:58:47,599
think ultimately they're going to be in

2949
01:58:47,599 --> 01:58:50,560
relation to what folks like as far as

2950
01:58:50,560 --> 01:58:52,560
setbacks concerned. I would like to see

2951
01:58:52,560 --> 01:58:54,719
more circular driveways with the larger

2952
01:58:54,719 --> 01:58:58,159
front yards. But again, that's my inner

2953
01:58:58,159 --> 01:59:00,639
architect out there and nobody's going

2954
01:59:00,639 --> 01:59:06,070
to agree with me on everything. Um,

2955
01:59:06,080 --> 01:59:08,639
I will just have to to say that the the

2956
01:59:08,639 --> 01:59:10,239
buyer is going to have to to make their

2957
01:59:10,239 --> 01:59:12,880
choice when they buy the house. Um, I I

2958
01:59:12,880 --> 01:59:14,320
can support this tonight based on what

2959
01:59:14,320 --> 01:59:16,320
it's at.

2960
01:59:16,320 --> 01:59:18,320
Again, the color palettes, there's going

2961
01:59:18,320 --> 01:59:19,760
to be offered different colors, but if

2962
01:59:19,760 --> 01:59:21,199
you look at most of the developments in

2963
01:59:21,199 --> 01:59:23,360
town, they're all the same color. And

2964
01:59:23,360 --> 01:59:25,440
I'm not a fan of that. But again, that's

2965
01:59:25,440 --> 01:59:27,520
the buyer's preference at that point.

2966
01:59:27,520 --> 01:59:29,199
Um, I don't want to put too many

2967
01:59:29,199 --> 01:59:31,040
restrictions on the the builder because

2968
01:59:31,040 --> 01:59:32,560
those restrictions start costing more

2969
01:59:32,560 --> 01:59:34,800
money and and the houses become more.

2970
01:59:34,800 --> 01:59:37,760
So, I'll rest it there for now and I'm

2971
01:59:37,760 --> 01:59:39,760
open to hearing the other comments and I

2972
01:59:39,760 --> 01:59:41,599
may change my mind on one or two things.

2973
01:59:41,599 --> 01:59:42,239
Thank you.

2974
01:59:42,239 --> 01:59:44,880
>> Thank you, Councilwoman Fledge.

2975
01:59:44,880 --> 01:59:47,599
Oh, who wants to jump in? Councilwoman

2976
01:59:47,599 --> 01:59:51,280
Ksky or Councilwoman Roth first?

2977
01:59:51,280 --> 01:59:54,400
Go ahead. Council Councilwoman Ksky.

2978
01:59:54,400 --> 01:59:58,560
Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um, Mr. Arza, um,

2979
01:59:58,560 --> 02:00:00,159
you're in my neighborhood.

2980
02:00:00,159 --> 02:00:01,920
>> Yes, you told me.

2981
02:00:01,920 --> 02:00:04,080
>> Yes. And on our farmland.

2982
02:00:04,080 --> 02:00:04,880
>> And what? I'm sorry.

2983
02:00:04,880 --> 02:00:07,119
>> And on our farmland, which is very near

2984
02:00:07,119 --> 02:00:09,840
and dear to me and to the neighboring

2985
02:00:09,840 --> 02:00:12,880
um, residents that live there. Um I have

2986
02:00:12,880 --> 02:00:15,520
stressed my concern that you are on the

2987
02:00:15,520 --> 02:00:20,239
cusp of the Redlands and um my concern

2988
02:00:20,239 --> 02:00:23,599
in you being conducive to what is in the

2989
02:00:23,599 --> 02:00:26,000
Redlands even though this is Homestead.

2990
02:00:26,000 --> 02:00:28,080
Um I understand that development is

2991
02:00:28,080 --> 02:00:29,040
coming.

2992
02:00:29,040 --> 02:00:30,560
>> There's not much that we can do to stop

2993
02:00:30,560 --> 02:00:34,719
it. Um but I want you to consider the

2994
02:00:34,719 --> 02:00:38,080
uniqueness of the area. Um, I'm very

2995
02:00:38,080 --> 02:00:39,520
saddened to see what the county has

2996
02:00:39,520 --> 02:00:42,159
approved to the west of you as we're

2997
02:00:42,159 --> 02:00:44,400
making that transition into those larger

2998
02:00:44,400 --> 02:00:47,280
lots, larger homes, a true estate house

2999
02:00:47,280 --> 02:00:48,880
where people have customuilt their home

3000
02:00:48,880 --> 02:00:50,880
and made it exactly what they want, that

3001
02:00:50,880 --> 02:00:53,199
uniqueness that the Redland uh area

3002
02:00:53,199 --> 02:00:55,840
offers. So, that has always been my

3003
02:00:55,840 --> 02:01:00,000
concern with you is that um

3004
02:01:00,000 --> 02:01:01,679
I hate to use the word cookie cutter,

3005
02:01:01,679 --> 02:01:04,000
but you know, it's it when they all look

3006
02:01:04,000 --> 02:01:06,400
the same as as Mr. Fletcher has pointed

3007
02:01:06,400 --> 02:01:11,280
out. Um I'm I don't favor that either.

3008
02:01:11,280 --> 02:01:12,239
Um

3009
02:01:12,239 --> 02:01:13,599
>> the term plan development.

3010
02:01:13,599 --> 02:01:15,360
>> Plan development. Sorry.

3011
02:01:15,360 --> 02:01:18,320
>> No, but your point is taken.

3012
02:01:18,320 --> 02:01:22,400
>> I agree with um Councilwoman Avala as

3013
02:01:22,400 --> 02:01:25,119
well that you know we're trying to

3014
02:01:25,119 --> 02:01:28,000
retain what we can of our farmland.

3015
02:01:28,000 --> 02:01:30,000
Um,

3016
02:01:30,000 --> 02:01:33,280
I just want to represent my my district

3017
02:01:33,280 --> 02:01:34,080
well

3018
02:01:34,080 --> 02:01:37,040
>> and know that I want to offer them the

3019
02:01:37,040 --> 02:01:38,960
best I can with what's coming down the

3020
02:01:38,960 --> 02:01:40,480
road. I whether it's today or tomorrow,

3021
02:01:40,480 --> 02:01:43,520
I'd rather see homes of a larger scale,

3022
02:01:43,520 --> 02:01:46,239
larger lot line, uh, land. you know, if

3023
02:01:46,239 --> 02:01:47,520
we're going to make this unique like an

3024
02:01:47,520 --> 02:01:49,199
estate home, let's give them room like

3025
02:01:49,199 --> 02:01:52,400
we discussed for recreation vehicles,

3026
02:01:52,400 --> 02:01:54,639
their boats, their their pole barns,

3027
02:01:54,639 --> 02:01:58,080
their workshops, you know, um this is a

3028
02:01:58,080 --> 02:02:00,000
smaller scale to what they could

3029
02:02:00,000 --> 02:02:02,159
possibly buy in the Redlands instead of

3030
02:02:02,159 --> 02:02:03,920
buying two and a half or five acres to

3031
02:02:03,920 --> 02:02:05,199
build on. You're offering something

3032
02:02:05,199 --> 02:02:07,040
different. So, let's offer them that,

3033
02:02:07,040 --> 02:02:10,080
you know, let's let's um make it

3034
02:02:10,080 --> 02:02:12,719
something that it will transition. Well,

3035
02:02:12,719 --> 02:02:15,440
that that's always been my request. So,

3036
02:02:15,440 --> 02:02:17,280
um, I'll rest there.

3037
02:02:17,280 --> 02:02:19,040
>> Yeah. And we talked about this and just

3038
02:02:19,040 --> 02:02:20,560
to point out, I mean, obviously, I think

3039
02:02:20,560 --> 02:02:22,960
with the vast majority of the lots being

3040
02:02:22,960 --> 02:02:26,000
19, 18, 19, 20,000, I mean, your city

3041
02:02:26,000 --> 02:02:30,080
regulations will govern um the use that

3042
02:02:30,080 --> 02:02:31,760
you're referring to. I mean, and there

3043
02:02:31,760 --> 02:02:34,400
are for the vast majority of the these

3044
02:02:34,400 --> 02:02:38,000
properties, there are 40 or 50 by 40, 50

3045
02:02:38,000 --> 02:02:40,239
feet wide entire areas in their

3046
02:02:40,239 --> 02:02:41,679
backyards where they can build an

3047
02:02:41,679 --> 02:02:42,880
accessory structure, where they could

3048
02:02:42,880 --> 02:02:44,880
build all that. nothing is prescribed by

3049
02:02:44,880 --> 02:02:47,119
what we're proposing here. Admittedly,

3050
02:02:47,119 --> 02:02:48,960
some of the smaller lots may not be able

3051
02:02:48,960 --> 02:02:51,840
to enjoy all of those um opportunities.

3052
02:02:51,840 --> 02:02:53,760
You know, maybe you can't have, you

3053
02:02:53,760 --> 02:02:55,199
know, all of those. By the way, in the

3054
02:02:55,199 --> 02:02:56,400
county, you can't have multiple

3055
02:02:56,400 --> 02:02:58,239
accessory units unless you get special

3056
02:02:58,239 --> 02:03:00,639
permission either. So, it's it's, you

3057
02:03:00,639 --> 02:03:02,800
know, it's on a smaller scale, but

3058
02:03:02,800 --> 02:03:04,719
nothing here prescribes if they meet

3059
02:03:04,719 --> 02:03:07,360
your code otherwise. This is not a PUB

3060
02:03:07,360 --> 02:03:08,480
or something where we're going to tell

3061
02:03:08,480 --> 02:03:10,320
people as long as they meet code. I

3062
02:03:10,320 --> 02:03:12,320
mean, if somebody wants to do, you know,

3063
02:03:12,320 --> 02:03:14,800
an accessory in the backyard such as the

3064
02:03:14,800 --> 02:03:16,639
ones we were talking about, um, they

3065
02:03:16,639 --> 02:03:19,040
would be able to do so. Um, and for a

3066
02:03:19,040 --> 02:03:21,280
lot of the lots, um, they will, they

3067
02:03:21,280 --> 02:03:22,560
would have room. They could choose to do

3068
02:03:22,560 --> 02:03:24,000
that instead of a pool or do a smaller

3069
02:03:24,000 --> 02:03:25,280
pool and do that. So, that option will

3070
02:03:25,280 --> 02:03:26,719
be there. As you said, on a smaller

3071
02:03:26,719 --> 02:03:29,280
scale, the 2 and a half or 5acre parcel,

3072
02:03:29,280 --> 02:03:30,639
and you know this because of your line

3073
02:03:30,639 --> 02:03:33,280
of work, is considerably more expensive.

3074
02:03:33,280 --> 02:03:35,119
And so, it is a trade-off. and a family

3075
02:03:35,119 --> 02:03:36,560
may say, "Well, this gives me a new

3076
02:03:36,560 --> 02:03:38,800
home." The ability to do one of those

3077
02:03:38,800 --> 02:03:41,920
things and, you know, get a taste of all

3078
02:03:41,920 --> 02:03:44,000
of that. Undoubtedly, if they could,

3079
02:03:44,000 --> 02:03:45,520
they, you know, perhaps would love to

3080
02:03:45,520 --> 02:03:47,760
buy the 2 and 1/2acre parcel outside.

3081
02:03:47,760 --> 02:03:50,400
Um, but that one comes at probably twice

3082
02:03:50,400 --> 02:03:52,159
the cost. We would know better, but I

3083
02:03:52,159 --> 02:03:53,280
think it's hard to find a 2 and 1

3084
02:03:53,280 --> 02:03:54,719
halfacre parcel in the Redlands for less

3085
02:03:54,719 --> 02:03:57,280
than a million and a half or maybe more.

3086
02:03:57,280 --> 02:03:58,639
These homes are going to be half, a

3087
02:03:58,639 --> 02:04:00,400
little more than half the price. It's a

3088
02:04:00,400 --> 02:04:01,599
trade-off. I mean, these are families

3089
02:04:01,599 --> 02:04:02,560
that are going to come into your

3090
02:04:02,560 --> 02:04:03,679
community. we'll still be able to do

3091
02:04:03,679 --> 02:04:05,520
some of those things admittedly on a

3092
02:04:05,520 --> 02:04:07,040
smaller scale. So I I mean we're trying

3093
02:04:07,040 --> 02:04:10,400
to find that balance

3094
02:04:10,400 --> 02:04:13,910
council.

3095
02:04:13,920 --> 02:04:15,520
Okay.

3096
02:04:15,520 --> 02:04:18,560
So I'm really torn as the grant as

3097
02:04:18,560 --> 02:04:20,560
someone who's lived here my entire life

3098
02:04:20,560 --> 02:04:23,760
who had his brothers

3099
02:04:23,760 --> 02:04:26,080
this would remain a farm field. That's

3100
02:04:26,080 --> 02:04:29,040
not reality. And I don't really think

3101
02:04:29,040 --> 02:04:31,040
that that's what's trying to be saved

3102
02:04:31,040 --> 02:04:33,440
here. I think what's trying to be saved

3103
02:04:33,440 --> 02:04:35,920
is the atmosphere

3104
02:04:35,920 --> 02:04:40,000
>> of more open spaces and you know as on

3105
02:04:40,000 --> 02:04:42,400
one hand as the grandson of somebody who

3106
02:04:42,400 --> 02:04:44,719
built a lot of custom homes throughout

3107
02:04:44,719 --> 02:04:46,880
Homestead and the Redlands built what

3108
02:04:46,880 --> 02:04:49,760
people wanted as they wanted it. nothing

3109
02:04:49,760 --> 02:04:53,920
ever looks alike versus the reality of

3110
02:04:53,920 --> 02:04:55,760
the cost of land, the cost of

3111
02:04:55,760 --> 02:05:00,000
construction, and the time value of of

3112
02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:02,960
money. So

3113
02:05:02,960 --> 02:05:06,000
to I think to both of Councilwoman Ksky

3114
02:05:06,000 --> 02:05:09,040
and and Alvala's point, you know, this

3115
02:05:09,040 --> 02:05:11,360
is a unique potential for a unique

3116
02:05:11,360 --> 02:05:14,000
neighborhood where people have plenty of

3117
02:05:14,000 --> 02:05:16,960
room to live outside.

3118
02:05:16,960 --> 02:05:20,159
>> Typically in their backyard,

3119
02:05:20,159 --> 02:05:22,000
>> we're not Mayberry. People aren't living

3120
02:05:22,000 --> 02:05:25,440
on their front porches. Maybe someday

3121
02:05:25,440 --> 02:05:27,440
when redevelopment comes on the west

3122
02:05:27,440 --> 02:05:30,239
side of downtown on a larger scale than

3123
02:05:30,239 --> 02:05:33,599
Pioneer Village, maybe. So,

3124
02:05:33,599 --> 02:05:35,920
uh, my neighborhood, you know, and and I

3125
02:05:35,920 --> 02:05:37,520
get you didn't want to come here with

3126
02:05:37,520 --> 02:05:39,520
too many variances.

3127
02:05:39,520 --> 02:05:40,880
You know, I think most everybody knows

3128
02:05:40,880 --> 02:05:42,800
where I live. My house is set back about

3129
02:05:42,800 --> 02:05:46,320
25 ft and I've got room for three

3130
02:05:46,320 --> 02:05:50,159
massive oak trees in the front yard.

3131
02:05:50,159 --> 02:05:52,159
thinking out loud and and and it just

3132
02:05:52,159 --> 02:05:55,360
dawned on me here tonight that on the

3133
02:05:55,360 --> 02:05:59,360
size lots that we're talking about, a 50

3134
02:05:59,360 --> 02:06:03,520
foot setback for a front yard is the

3135
02:06:03,520 --> 02:06:06,400
waste of a lot of space.

3136
02:06:06,400 --> 02:06:11,280
That you're killing the backyard.

3137
02:06:11,280 --> 02:06:13,520
Thinking out loud,

3138
02:06:13,520 --> 02:06:17,119
even at 35 feet, you still have plenty

3139
02:06:17,119 --> 02:06:20,320
of room for the circular driveway,

3140
02:06:20,320 --> 02:06:23,760
the the the pad going into the garage.

3141
02:06:23,760 --> 02:06:27,119
It could accommodate a car without being

3142
02:06:27,119 --> 02:06:29,840
out in the sidewalk or or blocking the

3143
02:06:29,840 --> 02:06:34,000
street. And I'm wondering if

3144
02:06:34,000 --> 02:06:36,000
your concern, my colleagues concerns of

3145
02:06:36,000 --> 02:06:39,119
open space and cramped backyards could

3146
02:06:39,119 --> 02:06:41,440
be alleviated

3147
02:06:41,440 --> 02:06:45,119
by layering in everybody being at a

3148
02:06:45,119 --> 02:06:50,320
front setback of 35 ft to create

3149
02:06:50,320 --> 02:06:54,159
backyards that are 15 feet deeper. Now

3150
02:06:54,159 --> 02:06:55,679
look, I don't know if anybody and

3151
02:06:55,679 --> 02:06:59,840
everybody wants planting beds, but if we

3152
02:06:59,840 --> 02:07:03,119
want to create old South Dade and Old

3153
02:07:03,119 --> 02:07:04,639
Homestead,

3154
02:07:04,639 --> 02:07:07,599
we could talk about every backyard

3155
02:07:07,599 --> 02:07:09,599
coming with some fruit trees or an

3156
02:07:09,599 --> 02:07:12,719
avocado tree or a mango tree or what

3157
02:07:12,719 --> 02:07:16,639
have you as part of the landscaping

3158
02:07:16,639 --> 02:07:18,320
plan.

3159
02:07:18,320 --> 02:07:20,880
Yeah, I hate to say it, but this is this

3160
02:07:20,880 --> 02:07:23,920
is not going to be a property. the folks

3161
02:07:23,920 --> 02:07:25,840
who are selling it are not

3162
02:07:25,840 --> 02:07:28,560
agriculturalist. We're we're way beyond

3163
02:07:28,560 --> 02:07:31,920
that. So, if it's a look and a feel and

3164
02:07:31,920 --> 02:07:33,840
an atmosphere,

3165
02:07:33,840 --> 02:07:36,320
and again, just thinking out loud, I'm

3166
02:07:36,320 --> 02:07:38,800
wondering if to a certain extent that

3167
02:07:38,800 --> 02:07:40,880
could be adjusted by moving everything

3168
02:07:40,880 --> 02:07:45,040
up to the 35- foot setback line

3169
02:07:45,040 --> 02:07:48,719
and and layering in a couple of kinds of

3170
02:07:48,719 --> 02:07:51,679
fruit trees in the backyard somewhere

3171
02:07:51,679 --> 02:07:54,079
like old Miami, old Pinerest before it

3172
02:07:54,079 --> 02:07:56,800
was Pinerest where every, you know, the

3173
02:07:56,800 --> 02:07:58,719
ones that are left, they got massive

3174
02:07:58,719 --> 02:08:02,800
ancient ancient mango trees in the uh in

3175
02:08:02,800 --> 02:08:05,760
the backyard. So,

3176
02:08:05,760 --> 02:08:09,040
dispensing with all that theoretical uh

3177
02:08:09,040 --> 02:08:12,880
frustrated architect and and planner

3178
02:08:12,880 --> 02:08:15,520
when we first talked about this, you

3179
02:08:15,520 --> 02:08:17,440
know, we obviously made the analysis to

3180
02:08:17,440 --> 02:08:19,119
the DR project to the south and I'm

3181
02:08:19,119 --> 02:08:20,480
sorry, the name of the subdivision

3182
02:08:20,480 --> 02:08:21,280
escapes me.

3183
02:08:21,280 --> 02:08:22,000
>> Aspen estates.

3184
02:08:22,000 --> 02:08:24,400
You know, we're trying

3185
02:08:24,400 --> 02:08:28,159
kind of making a onetoone comparison.

3186
02:08:28,159 --> 02:08:30,079
One of the issues we had in Aspen

3187
02:08:30,079 --> 02:08:33,440
Estates was it was all singlestory

3188
02:08:33,440 --> 02:08:35,280
>> and I think we talked about that when

3189
02:08:35,280 --> 02:08:38,079
you first came to visit me and to me

3190
02:08:38,079 --> 02:08:40,000
that's very appealing and I understand

3191
02:08:40,000 --> 02:08:42,239
here you've got at least one

3192
02:08:42,239 --> 02:08:43,520
>> we have one twotory model

3193
02:08:43,520 --> 02:08:44,480
>> twotory model

3194
02:08:44,480 --> 02:08:45,520
>> right

3195
02:08:45,520 --> 02:08:45,679
>> um

3196
02:08:45,679 --> 02:08:47,760
>> the majority of the models are one story

3197
02:08:47,760 --> 02:08:52,800
>> yeah um and echoing Councilman Fletcher

3198
02:08:52,800 --> 02:08:54,800
not that that's great but these designs

3199
02:08:54,800 --> 02:08:57,119
are a step up from what we have seen in

3200
02:08:57,119 --> 02:08:59,599
Homestead in deep south aid. So to that

3201
02:08:59,599 --> 02:09:01,280
extent, I'll compliment your client

3202
02:09:01,280 --> 02:09:09,280
who's who's with you uh today. So So I'm wondering if and I understand it's a

3203
02:09:09,280 --> 02:09:11,520
major adjustment. And going back to the

3204
02:09:11,520 --> 02:09:14,560
drawing board, if that would ease some

3205
02:09:14,560 --> 02:09:18,159
of the discomfort some of you have

3206
02:09:18,159 --> 02:09:21,119
with this entire package

3207
02:09:21,119 --> 02:09:24,159
by moving the houses slightly forward to

3208
02:09:24,159 --> 02:09:27,360
create larger backyards that can

3209
02:09:27,360 --> 02:09:30,560
accommodate the pole barns, the sheds,

3210
02:09:30,560 --> 02:09:34,960
the pools, and fruit trees and shade

3211
02:09:34,960 --> 02:09:36,480
trees.

3212
02:09:36,480 --> 02:09:37,760
Councilwoman,

3213
02:09:37,760 --> 02:09:39,840
>> thank you, Mayor. You know what I was

3214
02:09:39,840 --> 02:09:41,520
really what I really would like to have

3215
02:09:41,520 --> 02:09:44,000
is the client take ownership of of

3216
02:09:44,000 --> 02:09:46,719
bringing forward the ideas as we off the

3217
02:09:46,719 --> 02:09:48,239
cusp here. We can think of a couple

3218
02:09:48,239 --> 02:09:48,639
things.

3219
02:09:48,639 --> 02:09:50,239
>> Well, that that requires variance to be

3220
02:09:50,239 --> 02:09:50,639
fair.

3221
02:09:50,639 --> 02:09:52,159
>> Well, and I understand that and I think

3222
02:09:52,159 --> 02:09:55,199
that if you're showing us a 50 a 50 foot

3223
02:09:55,199 --> 02:09:58,000
front yard and a 10-ft backyard like

3224
02:09:58,000 --> 02:10:00,159
doesn't make sense to us. So, you know,

3225
02:10:00,159 --> 02:10:02,719
sometimes contractors will call their

3226
02:10:02,719 --> 02:10:04,320
inspection so that it can fail, hear

3227
02:10:04,320 --> 02:10:06,000
what you need to do, and then call back

3228
02:10:06,000 --> 02:10:08,480
the inspector to pass the second time.

3229
02:10:08,480 --> 02:10:09,840
And I think this is the opportunity for

3230
02:10:09,840 --> 02:10:12,719
you to take it back, redesign the the

3231
02:10:12,719 --> 02:10:14,400
backyard

3232
02:10:14,400 --> 02:10:17,679
and bring us some options that a

3233
02:10:17,679 --> 02:10:19,840
potential buyer could select from that

3234
02:10:19,840 --> 02:10:22,159
promotes the agricultural and preserves

3235
02:10:22,159 --> 02:10:23,920
the agricultural components of our

3236
02:10:23,920 --> 02:10:28,800
community. So, bigger yards, um, the

3237
02:10:28,800 --> 02:10:29,840
fruit trees.

3238
02:10:29,840 --> 02:10:31,599
>> Well, you just do it rather than have it

3239
02:10:31,599 --> 02:10:32,880
as an option. You just

3240
02:10:32,880 --> 02:10:34,480
>> Right. But you know,

3241
02:10:34,480 --> 02:10:35,920
>> and that would be in their landscaping

3242
02:10:35,920 --> 02:10:36,159
plan

3243
02:10:36,159 --> 02:10:37,199
>> in their landscaping plan

3244
02:10:37,199 --> 02:10:38,400
>> that we would approve,

3245
02:10:38,400 --> 02:10:41,040
>> right? The single stories. What I would

3246
02:10:41,040 --> 02:10:43,119
like to see as well is just maybe, you

3247
02:10:43,119 --> 02:10:45,599
know, instead of it being square lines

3248
02:10:45,599 --> 02:10:52,719
or straight lines, give show me some movement in the design. Um, and

3249
02:10:52,719 --> 02:10:54,880
Lenar Larara is an excellent corporate

3250
02:10:54,880 --> 02:10:56,880
citizen, right?

3251
02:10:56,880 --> 02:10:58,719
I'm not going to ask you guys to help us

3252
02:10:58,719 --> 02:11:01,119
create programming, but

3253
02:11:01,119 --> 02:11:02,800
profer something. You're asking for a

3254
02:11:02,800 --> 02:11:05,599
variance like help us get there.

3255
02:11:05,599 --> 02:11:07,679
>> So, I'll rest again. Thank you.

3256
02:11:07,679 --> 02:11:09,840
>> And and that's the difference. You know,

3257
02:11:09,840 --> 02:11:12,639
I like traditional old neighborhoods

3258
02:11:12,639 --> 02:11:15,520
with the straight streets because you've

3259
02:11:15,520 --> 02:11:17,440
got a heavy landscaping plan that

3260
02:11:17,440 --> 02:11:21,440
basically hides the density

3261
02:11:21,440 --> 02:11:24,079
that is, you know, the straight line is

3262
02:11:24,079 --> 02:11:27,679
more in line with what was traditionally

3263
02:11:27,679 --> 02:11:30,000
on the west side than the curvy linear

3264
02:11:30,000 --> 02:11:30,719
streets.

3265
02:11:30,719 --> 02:11:31,920
>> I think I messed up.

3266
02:11:31,920 --> 02:11:33,599
>> Did Yeah.

3267
02:11:33,599 --> 02:11:35,599
>> Okay. Yeah, I was thinking, you know,

3268
02:11:35,599 --> 02:11:38,560
because Yeah, the streets. But just

3269
02:11:38,560 --> 02:11:41,360
thinking out loud, 50 feet of front yard

3270
02:11:41,360 --> 02:11:43,840
in my neighborhood, cuz those lots are

3271
02:11:43,840 --> 02:11:45,760
essentially, you know, my neighborhood

3272
02:11:45,760 --> 02:11:48,480
runs from 15,000 and I'm on a little

3273
02:11:48,480 --> 02:11:52,880
over 20,000. 50 ft of front yard is a

3274
02:11:52,880 --> 02:11:56,639
lot of wasted space. Um,

3275
02:11:56,639 --> 02:12:00,159
I think it it would make for a much more

3276
02:12:00,159 --> 02:12:03,199
livable and usable

3277
02:12:03,199 --> 02:12:05,360
piece of property. Mayor if I may

3278
02:12:05,360 --> 02:12:09,920
>> also early on um in in our city

3279
02:12:09,920 --> 02:12:13,119
manager's um appointment there was a lot

3280
02:12:13,119 --> 02:12:14,880
of discussion about creating a community

3281
02:12:14,880 --> 02:12:17,599
benefits package. I have I haven't seen

3282
02:12:17,599 --> 02:12:21,760
that. I I don't recall seeing one on on

3283
02:12:21,760 --> 02:12:24,800
previous developments in the recent

3284
02:12:24,800 --> 02:12:26,880
um you know in the recent applications.

3285
02:12:26,880 --> 02:12:28,560
Is there a community benefits package

3286
02:12:28,560 --> 02:12:30,639
that I'm overlooking in this case?

3287
02:12:30,639 --> 02:12:32,960
>> Nothing beyond impact fees and and the

3288
02:12:32,960 --> 02:12:34,000
like.

3289
02:12:34,000 --> 02:12:35,840
All right. So that so that might be an

3290
02:12:35,840 --> 02:12:38,320
opportunity for for us to consider

3291
02:12:38,320 --> 02:12:41,520
>> coming. So I think the city attorney is

3292
02:12:41,520 --> 02:12:45,119
going to do a comprehensive code rewrite

3293
02:12:45,119 --> 02:12:46,960
which is where he's going to embed some

3294
02:12:46,960 --> 02:12:51,910
of these initiatives into the city code.

3295
02:12:51,920 --> 02:12:54,880
» Well, go ahead, Vice Mayor.

3296
02:12:54,880 --> 02:12:57,280
>> Thank you. if if if if it's going the

3297
02:12:57,280 --> 02:12:59,119
way I think it is tonight and they have

3298
02:12:59,119 --> 02:13:01,520
a chance to go and reimagine

3299
02:13:01,520 --> 02:13:03,920
uh maybe also look at you know if you're

3300
02:13:03,920 --> 02:13:06,000
moving the house closer to the street

3301
02:13:06,000 --> 02:13:08,639
allow for that potential extra accessory

3302
02:13:08,639 --> 02:13:10,400
building in the backyard similar to

3303
02:13:10,400 --> 02:13:12,880
maybe a one-bedroom with a small garage

3304
02:13:12,880 --> 02:13:15,679
type scenario workshop like we kind of

3305
02:13:15,679 --> 02:13:18,400
have in Westberry now to have that

3306
02:13:18,400 --> 02:13:20,239
potential there where you could put a

3307
02:13:20,239 --> 02:13:27,280
in-law if you needed to down the road to help with those type of issues.

3308
02:13:27,280 --> 02:13:29,360
>> Let's don't double density. Let's find a

3309
02:13:29,360 --> 02:13:31,440
place to to to put your boat and your

3310
02:13:31,440 --> 02:13:33,760
play cars. Not

3311
02:13:33,760 --> 02:13:35,599
>> not renters that create more solid

3312
02:13:35,599 --> 02:13:40,079
wasters. It'd be more like again more family type oriented like we would

3313
02:13:40,079 --> 02:13:41,040
do back in the old days,

3314
02:13:41,040 --> 02:13:42,560
>> right? I think you know there is

3315
02:13:42,560 --> 02:13:44,079
experience here because Lenar leads on

3316
02:13:44,079 --> 02:13:46,159
that nextgen product where you can have

3317
02:13:46,159 --> 02:13:48,079
it's there's a sandwich family where you

3318
02:13:48,079 --> 02:13:49,840
have the the parents raising their

3319
02:13:49,840 --> 02:13:51,840
children but their the grandparents are

3320
02:13:51,840 --> 02:13:53,840
also with them and that's the village

3321
02:13:53,840 --> 02:13:56,159
concept but um

3322
02:13:56,159 --> 02:13:58,000
>> and I'm open to something like that

3323
02:13:58,000 --> 02:14:01,920
again just uh if it were in mine I I

3324
02:14:01,920 --> 02:14:03,599
would live in a condo without any yard

3325
02:14:03,599 --> 02:14:05,920
and and I'd want a garage to go with it

3326
02:14:05,920 --> 02:14:08,480
a big garage. So,

3327
02:14:08,480 --> 02:14:11,840
thank you. But, you know, I And look, I

3328
02:14:11,840 --> 02:14:13,840
don't know because we've got we've got a

3329
02:14:13,840 --> 02:14:15,520
reasonzoning, which you're entitled to

3330
02:14:15,520 --> 02:14:19,440
because of the comp plan overlay.

3331
02:14:19,440 --> 02:14:21,599
Your next item, your next just to to

3332
02:14:21,599 --> 02:14:24,000
recap so we're all on the same page. You

3333
02:14:24,000 --> 02:14:26,000
got the reasonzoning

3334
02:14:26,000 --> 02:14:27,920
from AU

3335
02:14:27,920 --> 02:14:29,760
to estate density

3336
02:14:29,760 --> 02:14:30,639
>> A2

3337
02:14:30,639 --> 02:14:32,400
>> to A2

3338
02:14:32,400 --> 02:14:34,960
>> which you're entitled to because of our

3339
02:14:34,960 --> 02:14:38,149
longstanding

3340
02:14:38,159 --> 02:14:40,800
overlay. And then the next question

3341
02:14:40,800 --> 02:14:43,119
becomes how are you going to lay the

3342
02:14:43,119 --> 02:14:46,960
lots out? And so the next item per vote

3343
02:14:46,960 --> 02:14:49,360
would be the variance correct

3344
02:14:49,360 --> 02:14:52,239
>> for the lot sizes. If the variance

3345
02:14:52,239 --> 02:14:53,760
fails,

3346
02:14:53,760 --> 02:14:55,920
>> you go no further than

3347
02:14:55,920 --> 02:14:56,239
>> correct

3348
02:14:56,239 --> 02:14:58,000
>> than that. And you know this, I'm not

3349
02:14:58,000 --> 02:15:00,800
preaching lawyer just so that we all,

3350
02:15:00,800 --> 02:15:06,159
>> you know, kind of take a step back and see where we are in the uh in the

3351
02:15:06,159 --> 02:15:10,159
process. So let me ask you this.

3352
02:15:10,159 --> 02:15:14,320
Hypothetically speaking,

3353
02:15:14,320 --> 02:15:19,360
what would be the expense and time frame

3354
02:15:19,360 --> 02:15:22,159
to layer in

3355
02:15:22,159 --> 02:15:25,599
a variance for a 35 rather than a 50ft

3356
02:15:25,599 --> 02:15:28,079
setback?

3357
02:15:28,079 --> 02:15:30,079
>> Realistically, it probably would take us

3358
02:15:30,079 --> 02:15:31,599
two months to get back here. And my

3359
02:15:31,599 --> 02:15:33,679
guess is, you know, you have to redo all

3360
02:15:33,679 --> 02:15:35,679
the plans. Everything needs to be shown.

3361
02:15:35,679 --> 02:15:37,599
You got to get it to the city. The city

3362
02:15:37,599 --> 02:15:39,679
has to review. We've already looked at

3363
02:15:39,679 --> 02:15:41,119
everything else.

3364
02:15:41,119 --> 02:15:43,599
>> Then I mean I I won't put them on the

3365
02:15:43,599 --> 02:15:45,440
spot. Then you know I mean I can assure

3366
02:15:45,440 --> 02:15:47,679
you the director our our yeah our

3367
02:15:47,679 --> 02:15:49,520
architects would prepare that and get it

3368
02:15:49,520 --> 02:15:51,280
to the city and you know by early next

3369
02:15:51,280 --> 02:15:53,679
week something like that. Obviously that

3370
02:15:53,679 --> 02:15:56,079
will require an additional item and then

3371
02:15:56,079 --> 02:15:56,639
that's you know

3372
02:15:56,639 --> 02:15:59,280
>> well but that's just a a text filing.

3373
02:15:59,280 --> 02:16:00,560
You're not

3374
02:16:00,560 --> 02:16:03,119
>> relocating and redrawing

3375
02:16:03,119 --> 02:16:03,760
>> your lots.

3376
02:16:03,760 --> 02:16:05,360
>> Well I think I think we do show

3377
02:16:05,360 --> 02:16:07,599
depictions on all of the sites of the

3378
02:16:07,599 --> 02:16:09,119
distance. all of your development

3379
02:16:09,119 --> 02:16:10,639
services folks are nodding. So yeah, I

3380
02:16:10,639 --> 02:16:12,079
think those have to now I mean look

3381
02:16:12,079 --> 02:16:15,040
that's that's a CAD program that and I'm

3382
02:16:15,040 --> 02:16:16,400
speaking the only people not here

3383
02:16:16,400 --> 02:16:17,520
tonight are the architects and I'm

3384
02:16:17,520 --> 02:16:18,960
putting words in their mouth but we

3385
02:16:18,960 --> 02:16:20,480
could probably get that to you guys in

3386
02:16:20,480 --> 02:16:22,639
short order. We would have to of course

3387
02:16:22,639 --> 02:16:24,639
file an application for an additional

3388
02:16:24,639 --> 02:16:26,800
variance request staff would prepare

3389
02:16:26,800 --> 02:16:29,920
their um undoubtedly recommendation of

3390
02:16:29,920 --> 02:16:31,280
denial because there would be no

3391
02:16:31,280 --> 02:16:32,960
hardship necessarily. You bring up great

3392
02:16:32,960 --> 02:16:35,040
points. Trust me that you said it like

3393
02:16:35,040 --> 02:16:36,880
we try not to ask for any other

3394
02:16:36,880 --> 02:16:39,679
variances. It it stands to reason that

3395
02:16:39,679 --> 02:16:41,599
50 foot front yard is a really big front

3396
02:16:41,599 --> 02:16:44,160
yard and 35 or 40 would would you know

3397
02:16:44,160 --> 02:16:45,599
still look nice and would just give

3398
02:16:45,599 --> 02:16:47,679
people that extra room. Um but it would

3399
02:16:47,679 --> 02:16:48,960
be an additional item that would come

3400
02:16:48,960 --> 02:16:49,519
with

3401
02:16:49,519 --> 02:16:51,840
>> basically we're doing R1 lots under an

3402
02:16:51,840 --> 02:16:53,920
A2

3403
02:16:53,920 --> 02:16:55,359
category.

3404
02:16:55,359 --> 02:16:55,760
>> Uh

3405
02:16:55,760 --> 02:16:57,760
>> homestead R1, right?

3406
02:16:57,760 --> 02:17:01,359
>> No, your R A R R1 would be 7500. We're

3407
02:17:01,359 --> 02:17:02,080
not doing that.

3408
02:17:02,080 --> 02:17:02,559
>> Okay.

3409
02:17:02,559 --> 02:17:06,559
>> Yeah. No. Um, we're doing kind of

3410
02:17:06,559 --> 02:17:10,080
county eum plus, right? Like nothing is

3411
02:17:10,080 --> 02:17:10,960
smaller than doing

3412
02:17:10,960 --> 02:17:13,359
>> because let's not kid ourselves. I some

3413
02:17:13,359 --> 02:17:16,160
kind of development is going to happen.

3414
02:17:16,160 --> 02:17:16,639
>> Yeah.

3415
02:17:16,639 --> 02:17:19,359
>> On this site at some time.

3416
02:17:19,359 --> 02:17:22,880
>> Mayor, I I suspect if we if your front

3417
02:17:22,880 --> 02:17:25,599
setback was 40t in your code or 35, we

3418
02:17:25,599 --> 02:17:27,519
would have designed it to 40 or 35 and

3419
02:17:27,519 --> 02:17:30,719
we may not be having this discussion. So

3420
02:17:30,719 --> 02:17:32,880
it's 50. We don't like to ask for a lot

3421
02:17:32,880 --> 02:17:34,719
of variances. We were trying to match

3422
02:17:34,719 --> 02:17:38,559
something. So now if we go through and

3423
02:17:38,559 --> 02:17:40,800
submit, revise our plans, whatever has

3424
02:17:40,800 --> 02:17:43,120
to be depicted, file the application and

3425
02:17:43,120 --> 02:17:44,880
show it, you will have an additional

3426
02:17:44,880 --> 02:17:48,000
variance, but we could certainly address

3427
02:17:48,000 --> 02:17:49,760
>> a number of the concerns because you'll

3428
02:17:49,760 --> 02:17:50,319
have more

3429
02:17:50,319 --> 02:17:52,399
>> that could overcome the open space

3430
02:17:52,399 --> 02:17:52,800
concern.

3431
02:17:52,800 --> 02:17:54,559
>> Right. You you'll have more usable open

3432
02:17:54,559 --> 02:17:55,120
space,

3433
02:17:55,120 --> 02:17:56,240
>> backyard usability.

3434
02:17:56,240 --> 02:17:58,240
>> Exactly. Yeah. you'll have more usable

3435
02:17:58,240 --> 02:18:01,040
open space to provide wasted space,

3436
02:18:01,040 --> 02:18:02,399
>> right? And I think as you put it that

3437
02:18:02,399 --> 02:18:04,479
it's it's not you're not preserving

3438
02:18:04,479 --> 02:18:07,920
farmland say that you can preserve a a

3439
02:18:07,920 --> 02:18:10,559
>> the field with additional obviously

3440
02:18:10,559 --> 02:18:12,080
backyard with more trees or the

3441
02:18:12,080 --> 02:18:13,679
potential then to have that accessory

3442
02:18:13,679 --> 02:18:16,319
size which again a lot of the lots do

3443
02:18:16,319 --> 02:18:18,000
provide for that but certainly if you

3444
02:18:18,000 --> 02:18:19,439
move the houses forward,

3445
02:18:19,439 --> 02:18:19,840
>> right?

3446
02:18:19,840 --> 02:18:21,439
>> You know then those lots will be that

3447
02:18:21,439 --> 02:18:23,200
much more and even the smaller lots will

3448
02:18:23,200 --> 02:18:25,439
all have ample backyards to do at least

3449
02:18:25,439 --> 02:18:28,319
some of those things. So, um, look, you

3450
02:18:28,319 --> 02:18:31,359
know, obviously we can, um, appreciate

3451
02:18:31,359 --> 02:18:33,120
some of the comments and I can read the

3452
02:18:33,120 --> 02:18:35,840
room. Um, you know, certainly we would

3453
02:18:35,840 --> 02:18:37,280
welcome an opportunity to think down

3454
02:18:37,280 --> 02:18:39,120
those lines, but I do want to be clear

3455
02:18:39,120 --> 02:18:40,479
on the record. That would be an

3456
02:18:40,479 --> 02:18:40,800
additional

3457
02:18:40,800 --> 02:18:42,559
>> clearance. Sure. Let me let me ask the

3458
02:18:42,559 --> 02:18:44,080
attorney though and I put you on the

3459
02:18:44,080 --> 02:18:46,639
spot not and not practice on my own up

3460
02:18:46,639 --> 02:18:49,120
here. If

3461
02:18:49,120 --> 02:18:51,679
the reasonzoning passed tonight, our

3462
02:18:51,679 --> 02:18:55,120
next item is the variance from the lot

3463
02:18:55,120 --> 02:18:57,439
sizes.

3464
02:18:57,439 --> 02:19:00,000
If that passes, we go on to the next two

3465
02:19:00,000 --> 02:19:03,120
votes and everything moves forward.

3466
02:19:03,120 --> 02:19:08,240
If the variance were to fail,

3467
02:19:08,240 --> 02:19:11,040
in order for that to come back, there

3468
02:19:11,040 --> 02:19:14,319
would have to be a motion for rehearing

3469
02:19:14,319 --> 02:19:18,000
by someone who voted against the

3470
02:19:18,000 --> 02:19:21,200
variance. And only at that point would

3471
02:19:21,200 --> 02:19:24,319
you be in position

3472
02:19:24,319 --> 02:19:33,439
to bring an application back that would include the variance for the law

3473
02:19:33,439 --> 02:19:37,040
size and the setback. Is that fair?

3474
02:19:37,040 --> 02:19:39,200
>> James the way that it works in your code

3475
02:19:39,200 --> 02:19:41,200
is that if you denied it, you would deny

3476
02:19:41,200 --> 02:19:43,599
it with either prejudice or not with not

3477
02:19:43,599 --> 02:19:45,840
prejudice. And the difference is whether

3478
02:19:45,840 --> 02:19:47,760
you can bring it back in six months or a

3479
02:19:47,760 --> 02:19:49,439
year.

3480
02:19:49,439 --> 02:19:52,160
You you you could uh look, it's an

3481
02:19:52,160 --> 02:19:53,760
irrelevant point. I I think you could

3482
02:19:53,760 --> 02:19:55,520
also It's an irrelevant point because

3483
02:19:55,520 --> 02:19:57,439
I'm probably not going to I'm going to

3484
02:19:57,439 --> 02:19:59,439
hope that we don't even get to that vote

3485
02:19:59,439 --> 02:20:02,240
if it's not going to pass. But I also

3486
02:20:02,240 --> 02:20:09,120
think you could you could pass you could vote it down in theory and um

3487
02:20:09,120 --> 02:20:11,920
remove the six-month cooling off period.

3488
02:20:11,920 --> 02:20:13,840
Correct.

3489
02:20:13,840 --> 02:20:16,160
No, I I do I do, but I want to but the

3490
02:20:16,160 --> 02:20:17,439
lawyer in me wants to answer the

3491
02:20:17,439 --> 02:20:19,120
question. I mean, certainly I want to

3492
02:20:19,120 --> 02:20:20,560
get the project approved this evening.

3493
02:20:20,560 --> 02:20:22,080
>> He could do that, but he's got to get

3494
02:20:22,080 --> 02:20:23,280
client approval.

3495
02:20:23,280 --> 02:20:29,600
>> Yeah. I mean, I I would prefer I mean, I would um think it would show, you

3496
02:20:29,600 --> 02:20:31,280
know, you know, to my client at least

3497
02:20:31,280 --> 02:20:32,960
some some ability to move forward some

3498
02:20:32,960 --> 02:20:34,240
faith that we could I mean, if the

3499
02:20:34,240 --> 02:20:35,920
property could be reszoned to your

3500
02:20:35,920 --> 02:20:37,840
point, you could take the first vote,

3501
02:20:37,840 --> 02:20:38,720
property gets

3502
02:20:38,720 --> 02:20:39,920
>> second reading and you

3503
02:20:39,920 --> 02:20:41,520
>> and then, you know, reszone the

3504
02:20:41,520 --> 02:20:43,200
property. I mean, this is an appropriate

3505
02:20:43,200 --> 02:20:44,800
category. you have a recommendation of

3506
02:20:44,800 --> 02:20:47,200
approval and then we would respectfully

3507
02:20:47,200 --> 02:20:50,000
prior to the second the variance item

3508
02:20:50,000 --> 02:20:52,240
potentially failing and I you know can

3509
02:20:52,240 --> 02:20:56,080
count to seven or four um not much

3510
02:20:56,080 --> 02:20:57,840
higher than that that's why I'm a lawyer

3511
02:20:57,840 --> 02:20:59,520
um we would respectfully ask that you

3512
02:20:59,520 --> 02:21:02,319
defer the remaining items let us discuss

3513
02:21:02,319 --> 02:21:04,560
with staff and then we could modify the

3514
02:21:04,560 --> 02:21:06,640
application to include potentially an

3515
02:21:06,640 --> 02:21:08,240
additional variance and move and come

3516
02:21:08,240 --> 02:21:10,160
back to you I would rather not get into

3517
02:21:10,160 --> 02:21:13,520
denying it and and having to resubmit

3518
02:21:13,520 --> 02:21:15,920
reapply because that that does require

3519
02:21:15,920 --> 02:21:17,840
you to file the application a new which

3520
02:21:17,840 --> 02:21:19,760
is a bunch of costs and I know I don't

3521
02:21:19,760 --> 02:21:20,960
think anybody

3522
02:21:20,960 --> 02:21:22,560
>> it's

3523
02:21:22,560 --> 02:21:25,439
going to go forward in some form and we

3524
02:21:25,439 --> 02:21:28,160
don't want to put undue burden we're not

3525
02:21:28,160 --> 02:21:30,000
giving away the farm pardon the pun

3526
02:21:30,000 --> 02:21:31,439
we're not giving away the farm here

3527
02:21:31,439 --> 02:21:33,359
tonight but we don't want to put an

3528
02:21:33,359 --> 02:21:37,280
undue in unblue do burden

3529
02:21:37,280 --> 02:21:38,800
>> out there

3530
02:21:38,800 --> 02:21:41,280
>> um do you need us to take a break and

3531
02:21:41,280 --> 02:21:43,200
have you confer with your client Yeah, I

3532
02:21:43,200 --> 02:21:45,359
mean I I I' I'd like to Yeah, for for

3533
02:21:45,359 --> 02:21:46,880
sure. I don't think I need more than

3534
02:21:46,880 --> 02:21:47,200
couple.

3535
02:21:47,200 --> 02:21:50,000
>> Let's recess for five minutes. Allow you

3536
02:21:50,000 --> 02:21:51,840
to confer with your client. Yes,

3537
02:21:51,840 --> 02:21:53,120
Councilman Fletcher.

3538
02:21:53,120 --> 02:21:54,560
>> And I'll also make a motion to extend

3539
02:21:54,560 --> 02:21:56,160
the meeting to 9:30.

3540
02:21:56,160 --> 02:21:57,840
>> Okay, so we got that. Let's move to

3541
02:21:57,840 --> 02:21:59,920
extend this meeting to 9:30. I'll second

3542
02:21:59,920 --> 02:22:01,840
that. All in favor?

3543
02:22:01,840 --> 02:22:05,120
>> Any opposed? All right. So, my iPhone

3544
02:22:05,120 --> 02:22:07,840
says it's 8:23. So, at let's just say

3545
02:22:07,840 --> 02:33:54,389
8:30, we will come out of recess.

3546
02:33:54,399 --> 02:33:56,319
Okay, we'll call this meeting out of

3547
02:33:56,319 --> 02:34:01,670
recess and back in session.

3548
02:34:01,680 --> 02:34:02,479
» Mr. Ar.

3549
02:34:02,479 --> 02:34:04,399
>> Yes, mayor. So, um, thank you for the

3550
02:34:04,399 --> 02:34:07,600
time to confer with my client. So, um,

3551
02:34:07,600 --> 02:34:08,960
what we've got more than anything else

3552
02:34:08,960 --> 02:34:10,800
is a bit of a time crunch as you know.

3553
02:34:10,800 --> 02:34:12,560
application was submitted well over a

3554
02:34:12,560 --> 02:34:14,240
year ago. It's just taken time to get

3555
02:34:14,240 --> 02:34:15,600
here. Even first reading was a couple

3556
02:34:15,600 --> 02:34:16,800
months ago. So, we've just kind of lost

3557
02:34:16,800 --> 02:34:20,560
some time along the way. Um, and so, you

3558
02:34:20,560 --> 02:34:21,840
know, we've got sellers that have

3559
02:34:21,840 --> 02:34:23,760
expectations that, you know, believe

3560
02:34:23,760 --> 02:34:25,040
we'd be done this evening and we'll have

3561
02:34:25,040 --> 02:34:26,319
to go back to them and secure

3562
02:34:26,319 --> 02:34:28,319
extensions. And more than half of you on

3563
02:34:28,319 --> 02:34:30,240
this board are real estate professionals

3564
02:34:30,240 --> 02:34:31,840
of one type or another. So, you know how

3565
02:34:31,840 --> 02:34:34,880
that process can go sometimes. So, um,

3566
02:34:34,880 --> 02:34:36,960
you know, we believe we could do so, but

3567
02:34:36,960 --> 02:34:39,439
we'd be very hardressed not to do it for

3568
02:34:39,439 --> 02:34:42,080
more than to next month's meeting. So,

3569
02:34:42,080 --> 02:34:43,760
um we we really, you know, we just think

3570
02:34:43,760 --> 02:34:45,920
the sellers, you know, might want to

3571
02:34:45,920 --> 02:34:48,479
extract too big a a pound of flesh, so

3572
02:34:48,479 --> 02:34:50,640
to speak, if we ask for more time than

3573
02:34:50,640 --> 02:34:53,520
that, um one that would be unsailable.

3574
02:34:53,520 --> 02:34:58,960
So, um I if our team could resubmit or

3575
02:34:58,960 --> 02:35:00,720
submit

3576
02:35:00,720 --> 02:35:03,040
um the additional variance and the

3577
02:35:03,040 --> 02:35:05,680
revised site plan, um the additional

3578
02:35:05,680 --> 02:35:06,880
variance would be a front setback

3579
02:35:06,880 --> 02:35:08,800
variance and the revised site plan to

3580
02:35:08,800 --> 02:35:11,200
show then that the homes are closer to

3581
02:35:11,200 --> 02:35:13,200
the front by close of business on

3582
02:35:13,200 --> 02:35:18,160
Monday, which is the 27th, I believe. um

3583
02:35:18,160 --> 02:35:21,840
you know of of April um you know I would

3584
02:35:21,840 --> 02:35:24,399
love for there to be some communication

3585
02:35:24,399 --> 02:35:27,040
today that they could staff and the

3586
02:35:27,040 --> 02:35:28,640
administration could start working I

3587
02:35:28,640 --> 02:35:29,920
mean look they have the recommendation

3588
02:35:29,920 --> 02:35:31,680
of denial for the existing variance

3589
02:35:31,680 --> 02:35:32,880
they're going to I know the

3590
02:35:32,880 --> 02:35:33,520
recommendation

3591
02:35:33,520 --> 02:35:34,720
>> it's the same analysis

3592
02:35:34,720 --> 02:35:37,200
>> it's the same exactly so if if we had I

3593
02:35:37,200 --> 02:35:39,200
mean in good faith and we've worked with

3594
02:35:39,200 --> 02:35:41,840
I work with m storage for 20 years if in

3595
02:35:41,840 --> 02:35:43,840
good faith we can all agree that we will

3596
02:35:43,840 --> 02:35:45,280
get it in by close of business on Friday

3597
02:35:45,280 --> 02:35:47,600
to give by Monday excuse today. I I just

3598
02:35:47,600 --> 02:35:48,640
kind of, you know, it's they're not

3599
02:35:48,640 --> 02:35:50,160
going to look at this till tomorrow. So,

3600
02:35:50,160 --> 02:35:54,080
by Monday, close of business um for

3601
02:35:54,080 --> 02:35:56,960
staff to receive, evaluate. There's no

3602
02:35:56,960 --> 02:35:59,680
DRC, additional special DRC. I mean,

3603
02:35:59,680 --> 02:36:01,439
this is part of a project that's been

3604
02:36:01,439 --> 02:36:04,080
looked at for over a year. Um and that

3605
02:36:04,080 --> 02:36:05,359
we would be back here for the main

3606
02:36:05,359 --> 02:36:07,840
meeting. um with the deferred items plus

3607
02:36:07,840 --> 02:36:10,080
the additional variance, you know, we

3608
02:36:10,080 --> 02:36:11,920
will go to the sellers and, you know,

3609
02:36:11,920 --> 02:36:13,439
hope that we can, you know, make it work

3610
02:36:13,439 --> 02:36:15,040
with just the additional month. I think

3611
02:36:15,040 --> 02:36:16,560
to get into anything longer than that

3612
02:36:16,560 --> 02:36:18,640
might imperil the ability

3613
02:36:18,640 --> 02:36:20,240
>> Let me let me ask the director, is that

3614
02:36:20,240 --> 02:36:22,479
within the realm of possibility to

3615
02:36:22,479 --> 02:36:23,600
review a variance?

3616
02:36:23,600 --> 02:36:25,680
>> The important thing is that you define

3617
02:36:25,680 --> 02:36:28,000
as soon as possible the the variance

3618
02:36:28,000 --> 02:36:30,160
that you are going to ask for because we

3619
02:36:30,160 --> 02:36:32,240
need to advertise for that. The rest we

3620
02:36:32,240 --> 02:36:34,800
are going to we are going to defer. So

3621
02:36:34,800 --> 02:36:37,120
if the size of the lots remain the same

3622
02:36:37,120 --> 02:36:38,640
and that's the only thing we need to

3623
02:36:38,640 --> 02:36:40,640
request, we need to know that as soon as

3624
02:36:40,640 --> 02:36:43,359
possible to have time to advertise, send

3625
02:36:43,359 --> 02:36:44,479
the notices and

3626
02:36:44,479 --> 02:36:46,240
>> it will I think the the council

3627
02:36:46,240 --> 02:36:49,200
expressed the desire to see a 35 foot

3628
02:36:49,200 --> 02:36:51,120
front setback. So our Right. Is that

3629
02:36:51,120 --> 02:36:52,479
what you said, Mayor? 35.

3630
02:36:52,479 --> 02:36:53,600
>> I said 35. Yeah,

3631
02:36:53,600 --> 02:36:55,920
>> 35. Right. So I mean the request would

3632
02:36:55,920 --> 02:36:59,600
be consistent with front a variance of

3633
02:36:59,600 --> 02:37:01,600
the front setback where all lots require

3634
02:37:01,600 --> 02:37:04,560
a 50 foot front setback to 35 ft and you

3635
02:37:04,560 --> 02:37:06,240
know and then obviously the pictures

3636
02:37:06,240 --> 02:37:08,240
need to depict that but that for legal

3637
02:37:08,240 --> 02:37:09,680
purposes and I don't know James I mean

3638
02:37:09,680 --> 02:37:14,640
that I mean that's pretty stand. Yeah, I I'm not concerned the legal

3639
02:37:14,640 --> 02:37:17,520
I I can I can commit to having the legal

3640
02:37:17,520 --> 02:37:20,640
description or the legal request for the

3641
02:37:20,640 --> 02:37:23,120
variance to staff by Friday and then

3642
02:37:23,120 --> 02:37:24,240
we'll work on it tomorrow and get it

3643
02:37:24,240 --> 02:37:25,840
done by Friday. That's the part that I

3644
02:37:25,840 --> 02:37:27,359
can do. I'm not an architect. I don't

3645
02:37:27,359 --> 02:37:29,680
want to put in their mouths redoing the

3646
02:37:29,680 --> 02:37:31,359
plan. I need to let those professionals

3647
02:37:31,359 --> 02:37:32,960
do their job. We'll have that by Monday,

3648
02:37:32,960 --> 02:37:34,880
but that would be there by Friday, which

3649
02:37:34,880 --> 02:37:36,160
I mean, again, I know you got it

3650
02:37:36,160 --> 02:37:38,399
advertised for next month or so. Um,

3651
02:37:38,399 --> 02:37:41,040
with that again, I I think it would help

3652
02:37:41,040 --> 02:37:42,640
us and go a long way and hopefully in

3653
02:37:42,640 --> 02:37:43,840
the spirit of compromise if the

3654
02:37:43,840 --> 02:37:45,520
reasoning, which we all agree this is an

3655
02:37:45,520 --> 02:37:47,359
appropriate category can occur, give

3656
02:37:47,359 --> 02:37:49,200
some comfort to our sellers

3657
02:37:49,200 --> 02:37:51,439
>> to work with us. We don't want them to

3658
02:37:51,439 --> 02:37:54,080
run for the hills. um and and and make

3659
02:37:54,080 --> 02:37:55,840
this, you know, an impossibility and

3660
02:37:55,840 --> 02:37:57,520
then defer the remaining three items.

3661
02:37:57,520 --> 02:37:58,479
>> Yeah, the three items

3662
02:37:58,479 --> 02:38:00,640
>> and and come back then with, you know,

3663
02:38:00,640 --> 02:38:03,040
those three plus an additional one and

3664
02:38:03,040 --> 02:38:04,720
layer in some of the other things as as

3665
02:38:04,720 --> 02:38:06,479
now that we have room and we can do so

3666
02:38:06,479 --> 02:38:08,080
then then we'll look into obviously some

3667
02:38:08,080 --> 02:38:09,280
of the other concerns that were brought

3668
02:38:09,280 --> 02:38:11,439
in and see what else we can we can add.

3669
02:38:11,439 --> 02:38:12,240
But that's the big

3670
02:38:12,240 --> 02:38:14,000
>> Okay, appreciate that. So, yes, vice

3671
02:38:14,000 --> 02:38:14,479
mayor.

3672
02:38:14,479 --> 02:38:16,960
>> Thank you, mayor. Um, first staff there

3673
02:38:16,960 --> 02:38:19,200
in the middle, that block 11 where the

3674
02:38:19,200 --> 02:38:22,319
backyards are facing each other. We're

3675
02:38:22,319 --> 02:38:26,319
talking about moving the homes closer to

3676
02:38:26,319 --> 02:38:29,120
the front. But what does that look like

3677
02:38:29,120 --> 02:38:31,439
for their backyard? Is that going to be

3678
02:38:31,439 --> 02:38:33,920
some type of entrance on the side of

3679
02:38:33,920 --> 02:38:36,240
everyone's house if they want to take a

3680
02:38:36,240 --> 02:38:38,000
boat to the back? How does that even

3681
02:38:38,000 --> 02:38:40,399
work?

3682
02:38:40,399 --> 02:38:43,840
>> They still got the width. That doesn't

3683
02:38:43,840 --> 02:38:44,880
>> doesn't change anything.

3684
02:38:44,880 --> 02:38:47,520
>> Right. But I'm I'm trying to picture

3685
02:38:47,520 --> 02:38:49,040
what that looks like. If you're the

3686
02:38:49,040 --> 02:38:50,720
house in the middle, you're going to

3687
02:38:50,720 --> 02:38:53,359
drive your boat between the two homes to

3688
02:38:53,359 --> 02:38:54,240
your backyard.

3689
02:38:54,240 --> 02:38:58,479
>> No, there's no house in the middle. The Sorry, let me back.

3690
02:38:58,479 --> 02:39:00,000
>> There's There's only two houses. So,

3691
02:39:00,000 --> 02:39:01,439
everybody comes from a street and goes

3692
02:39:01,439 --> 02:39:05,990
to their backyard.

3693
02:39:06,000 --> 02:39:07,439
» The fronts.

3694
02:39:07,439 --> 02:39:10,319
No,

3695
02:39:10,319 --> 02:39:12,399
>> these backyards are touching each other.

3696
02:39:12,399 --> 02:39:14,880
They're facing each other. So, how does

3697
02:39:14,880 --> 02:39:16,479
this person get their boats in their

3698
02:39:16,479 --> 02:39:18,160
backyard

3699
02:39:18,160 --> 02:39:19,359
>> from the front?

3700
02:39:19,359 --> 02:39:21,439
>> This is the front

3701
02:39:21,439 --> 02:39:22,800
>> through the middle. That's what I meant.

3702
02:39:22,800 --> 02:39:26,319
Between two homes. So, on their side.

3703
02:39:26,319 --> 02:39:28,800
>> Okay. I just wanted to make sure that

3704
02:39:28,800 --> 02:39:31,280
the side setbacks would allow if that's

3705
02:39:31,280 --> 02:39:33,920
the point of this whole thing. I think

3706
02:39:33,920 --> 02:39:36,240
that I think that you your architect

3707
02:39:36,240 --> 02:39:39,120
should re relook at that and see maybe

3708
02:39:39,120 --> 02:39:41,280
you the 10 setback is the minimum

3709
02:39:41,280 --> 02:39:43,359
setback required. Maybe you need there

3710
02:39:43,359 --> 02:39:46,240
to leave 50. So 15 so they can drive to

3711
02:39:46,240 --> 02:39:47,760
the to the backyard

3712
02:39:47,760 --> 02:39:49,280
>> but currently it's only 10.

3713
02:39:49,280 --> 02:39:51,200
>> Well that's your code again.

3714
02:39:51,200 --> 02:39:52,880
>> So if we're talking about the point of

3715
02:39:52,880 --> 02:39:55,439
having boats and and additional

3716
02:39:55,439 --> 02:39:57,600
>> there goes your two hours in front only.

3717
02:39:57,600 --> 02:39:59,120
then that that serves no.

3718
02:39:59,120 --> 02:40:01,520
>> But that's just for those smallest lots

3719
02:40:01,520 --> 02:40:02,479
and people are going to have to

3720
02:40:02,479 --> 02:40:04,319
understand that. But you're you're

3721
02:40:04,319 --> 02:40:06,880
enhancing everyone else's backyard.

3722
02:40:06,880 --> 02:40:09,439
>> No, we're only talking about 10, 11, and

3723
02:40:09,439 --> 02:40:11,520
12. Or are we talking about the entire

3724
02:40:11,520 --> 02:40:12,720
>> We're talking about the entire

3725
02:40:12,720 --> 02:40:14,399
>> No, I mean the the moving to the front

3726
02:40:14,399 --> 02:40:16,479
we understood to mean

3727
02:40:16,479 --> 02:40:18,000
>> the whole project moving the houses

3728
02:40:18,000 --> 02:40:19,840
>> so that everybody's backyard is bigger,

3729
02:40:19,840 --> 02:40:20,160
right?

3730
02:40:20,160 --> 02:40:22,000
>> Give everybody a bigger backyard.

3731
02:40:22,000 --> 02:40:25,840
>> Yeah. Yeah. Not just for those three

3732
02:40:25,840 --> 02:40:28,000
>> within the confines of the existing

3733
02:40:28,000 --> 02:40:30,479
drawing.

3734
02:40:30,479 --> 02:40:32,720
>> Will you be able to meet with us

3735
02:40:32,720 --> 02:40:34,800
>> between now and and Monday even

3736
02:40:34,800 --> 02:40:37,359
virtually to consider some

3737
02:40:37,359 --> 02:40:38,960
>> just to continue the conversation?

3738
02:40:38,960 --> 02:40:40,399
>> Yeah, of course. Of course.

3739
02:40:40,399 --> 02:40:42,160
>> And the landscaping improvements.

3740
02:40:42,160 --> 02:40:42,720
>> Yeah.

3741
02:40:42,720 --> 02:40:44,000
Okay.

3742
02:40:44,000 --> 02:40:46,000
>> You mean the the fruit trees are Does

3743
02:40:46,000 --> 02:40:47,600
your code prohibit that?

3744
02:40:47,600 --> 02:40:49,520
>> Some codes I know are funky about fruit

3745
02:40:49,520 --> 02:40:50,000
trees.

3746
02:40:50,000 --> 02:40:52,240
>> The fruit trees. And my last well

3747
02:40:52,240 --> 02:40:53,520
>> I just want to make sure we don't

3748
02:40:53,520 --> 02:40:55,200
>> that would be supple supplemental to

3749
02:40:55,200 --> 02:40:56,960
what's already required in the code.

3750
02:40:56,960 --> 02:40:58,560
>> Okay. But it isn't prohibited. You don't

3751
02:40:58,560 --> 02:41:01,200
have a a prohibition on Okay. Good.

3752
02:41:01,200 --> 02:41:03,920
>> On canker trees. C canker trees.

3753
02:41:03,920 --> 02:41:05,840
>> Director with the new item that's coming

3754
02:41:05,840 --> 02:41:07,680
up regarding landscaping and the

3755
02:41:07,680 --> 02:41:09,840
requirements. This project wouldn't fall

3756
02:41:09,840 --> 02:41:10,640
in line.

3757
02:41:10,640 --> 02:41:12,080
>> Doesn't change anything.

3758
02:41:12,080 --> 02:41:14,000
>> Yeah, it already.

3759
02:41:14,000 --> 02:41:16,960
>> Vice Mayor, if I may step in. Thank you.

3760
02:41:16,960 --> 02:41:19,439
Um, these are going to be private ride

3761
02:41:19,439 --> 02:41:21,760
rightways or public roads.

3762
02:41:21,760 --> 02:41:23,600
>> The perimeters are public. The interior

3763
02:41:23,600 --> 02:41:27,200
private publicly accessible. Private

3764
02:41:27,200 --> 02:41:29,040
meaning the CDD will maintain them. So,

3765
02:41:29,040 --> 02:41:30,720
they're 50 foot, but they are designed

3766
02:41:30,720 --> 02:41:33,600
at the same width 50 ft that all roads

3767
02:41:33,600 --> 02:41:36,880
are. It's just that the CDD will

3768
02:41:36,880 --> 02:41:38,960
maintain them. So, the taxpayer and

3769
02:41:38,960 --> 02:41:40,640
homestead won't maintain those. The

3770
02:41:40,640 --> 02:41:43,600
perimeter ones are in the case of 296 is

3771
02:41:43,600 --> 02:41:46,000
the county road. So in effect in simple

3772
02:41:46,000 --> 02:41:48,000
terms, these are private roads.

3773
02:41:48,000 --> 02:41:49,760
>> The the interior, not the exterior.

3774
02:41:49,760 --> 02:41:52,080
>> Yes, the interior. Ungated private

3775
02:41:52,080 --> 02:41:54,800
>> ungated private roads. Yes.

3776
02:41:54,800 --> 02:41:57,200
>> Thank you.

3777
02:41:57,200 --> 02:41:58,960
>> Okay.

3778
02:41:58,960 --> 02:42:00,880
>> Anything further from council? All

3779
02:42:00,880 --> 02:42:03,439
right. So, first item we're going to

3780
02:42:03,439 --> 02:42:06,800
have a motion and a vote on is the

3781
02:42:06,800 --> 02:42:11,280
request for the resoning, which is tab

3782
02:42:11,280 --> 02:42:13,120
15.

3783
02:42:13,120 --> 02:42:15,520
So moved by Councilman Roth, second by

3784
02:42:15,520 --> 02:42:17,600
Councilwoman Cannibal.

3785
02:42:17,600 --> 02:42:19,760
Have a roll call vote on tab 15 for the

3786
02:42:19,760 --> 02:42:20,800
reszoning.

3787
02:42:20,800 --> 02:42:22,240
>> Councilwoman Abula,

3788
02:42:22,240 --> 02:42:23,359
>> no.

3789
02:42:23,359 --> 02:42:24,800
>> Councilwoman Ksky,

3790
02:42:24,800 --> 02:42:26,720
>> no. Councilman Ross,

3791
02:42:26,720 --> 02:42:27,439
>> yes.

3792
02:42:27,439 --> 02:42:28,800
>> Councilman Fletcher,

3793
02:42:28,800 --> 02:42:29,680
>> yes.

3794
02:42:29,680 --> 02:42:31,359
>> Councilman Cannibal,

3795
02:42:31,359 --> 02:42:32,479
>> Vice Mayor Bailey,

3796
02:42:32,479 --> 02:42:33,120
>> yes.

3797
02:42:33,120 --> 02:42:34,000
>> Mayor Losner,

3798
02:42:34,000 --> 02:42:34,399
>> yes.

3799
02:42:34,399 --> 02:42:36,880
>> The motion carries.

3800
02:42:36,880 --> 02:42:39,840
>> Okay. Now, and you're requesting a def

3801
02:42:39,840 --> 02:42:42,080
16, 17, and 18. the remaining three

3802
02:42:42,080 --> 02:42:44,240
>> move to defer.

3803
02:42:44,240 --> 02:42:45,439
>> All right. So, we have a motion by

3804
02:42:45,439 --> 02:42:47,200
Councilwoman Avala and I think a second

3805
02:42:47,200 --> 02:42:51,280
from Ksky, Councilwoman Ksky, to defer

3806
02:42:51,280 --> 02:42:55,359
items tab 16, 17, and 18, which I assume

3807
02:42:55,359 --> 02:42:56,960
we'll have to have separate votes on. Is

3808
02:42:56,960 --> 02:43:01,750
that correct, Mr. Attorney?

3809
02:43:01,760 --> 02:43:03,359
» You can do it.

3810
02:43:03,359 --> 02:43:05,359
>> All right. So, we're that's a global

3811
02:43:05,359 --> 02:43:08,560
motion for tab 16, 17, and 18. the

3812
02:43:08,560 --> 02:43:11,520
variance, the site plan and the T plat

3813
02:43:11,520 --> 02:43:13,760
>> to to next month.

3814
02:43:13,760 --> 02:43:18,550
>> Yes. To the date,

3815
02:43:18,560 --> 02:43:20,560
» which is

3816
02:43:20,560 --> 02:43:21,840
>> May 20th.

3817
02:43:21,840 --> 02:43:24,960
Okay.

3818
02:43:24,960 --> 02:43:26,319
All right.

3819
02:43:26,319 --> 02:43:28,080
>> So, roll call vote on the motion to

3820
02:43:28,080 --> 02:43:30,240
defer.

3821
02:43:30,240 --> 02:43:32,000
>> Councilwoman Ksky,

3822
02:43:32,000 --> 02:43:34,560
>> yes. Councilman Cannaval, yes.

3823
02:43:34,560 --> 02:43:36,880
>> Councilwoman Abula, Councilman Raw,

3824
02:43:36,880 --> 02:43:37,359
>> yes.

3825
02:43:37,359 --> 02:43:38,479
>> Councilman Fletcher,

3826
02:43:38,479 --> 02:43:39,120
>> yes.

3827
02:43:39,120 --> 02:43:40,479
>> Vice Mayor Bailey, yes.

3828
02:43:40,479 --> 02:43:41,680
>> Mayor Osma, yes.

3829
02:43:41,680 --> 02:43:43,200
>> The motion carries.

3830
02:43:43,200 --> 02:43:44,560
>> All right. Thank you, Hugo.

3831
02:43:44,560 --> 02:43:46,399
>> We'll see you. We'll speak much sooner,

3832
02:43:46,399 --> 02:43:48,080
but we'll see you next time. Thank you,

3833
02:43:48,080 --> 02:43:49,600
>> Mr.

3834
02:43:49,600 --> 02:43:50,399
Hello.

3835
02:43:50,399 --> 02:43:52,399
>> Hugo.

3836
02:43:52,399 --> 02:43:55,439
>> One thing, when you come next time,

3837
02:43:55,439 --> 02:43:58,800
>> just say we move the houses 15 ft and

3838
02:43:58,800 --> 02:44:01,439
stop it there. You talk too much, man.

3839
02:44:01,439 --> 02:44:03,920
or I lose or I lose your vote. You guys

3840
02:44:03,920 --> 02:44:05,439
heard it. I can't get into a back and

3841
02:44:05,439 --> 02:44:06,960
forth.

3842
02:44:06,960 --> 02:44:11,120
>> Thank you. Thank you.

3843
02:44:11,120 --> 02:44:12,560
>> All right.

3844
02:44:12,560 --> 02:44:16,240
>> Okay. Moving on to tab 19, car number

3845
02:44:16,240 --> 02:44:18,080
4980.

3846
02:44:18,080 --> 02:44:19,439
This is a resolution of the city of

3847
02:44:19,439 --> 02:44:21,359
Homestead, Florida granting final plat

3848
02:44:21,359 --> 02:44:23,760
approval as requested by Castellanos at

3849
02:44:23,760 --> 02:44:25,680
Coral Way, Inc. for the development of

3850
02:44:25,680 --> 02:44:28,319
an approximately 20,252t

3851
02:44:28,319 --> 02:44:29,760
building.

3852
02:44:29,760 --> 02:44:31,680
>> 12. We did it on the LPA, but we didn't

3853
02:44:31,680 --> 02:44:35,040
do it here. The warehouse, the entity of

3854
02:44:35,040 --> 02:44:37,279
title was to have 12.

3855
02:44:37,279 --> 02:44:39,439
>> No, those are those are both legislative

3856
02:44:39,439 --> 02:44:40,640
items that we're going to take.

3857
02:44:40,640 --> 02:44:41,760
>> Okay, we're going to finish the quasi

3858
02:44:41,760 --> 02:44:44,319
judicial. I'm sorry.

3859
02:44:44,319 --> 02:44:46,240
>> As you were saying,

3860
02:44:46,240 --> 02:44:47,680
>> for the development of an approximately

3861
02:44:47,680 --> 02:44:49,520
20,252t

3862
02:44:49,520 --> 02:44:51,120
building consisted of a medical center

3863
02:44:51,120 --> 02:44:53,040
and two retail spaces on an

3864
02:44:53,040 --> 02:44:55,600
approximately 1.04 04 acre parcel of

3865
02:44:55,600 --> 02:44:58,000
land located at 304 North Graham Avenue.

3866
02:44:58,000 --> 02:44:59,520
Legally described in exhibit A Friday

3867
02:44:59,520 --> 02:45:02,080
for an effective date.

3868
02:45:02,080 --> 02:45:04,240
>> Thank you. Any questions or comments

3869
02:45:04,240 --> 02:45:08,000
from council? Was a final plat.

3870
02:45:08,000 --> 02:45:10,960
>> Did they move the dead palm tree in the

3871
02:45:10,960 --> 02:45:12,399
front of the building?

3872
02:45:12,399 --> 02:45:16,240
>> They I I can report to that. They they

3873
02:45:16,240 --> 02:45:18,800
remove that uh palm tree, the one that

3874
02:45:18,800 --> 02:45:19,760
was dead,

3875
02:45:19,760 --> 02:45:21,920
>> but they don't have a CO yet. They just

3876
02:45:21,920 --> 02:45:25,120
have a TCO. So before getting the final,

3877
02:45:25,120 --> 02:45:27,920
I put a hold on the CO and the condition

3878
02:45:27,920 --> 02:45:30,319
is that they should replace that tree.

3879
02:45:30,319 --> 02:45:33,120
>> It's fine. Thank you. But because that

3880
02:45:33,120 --> 02:45:34,479
looks horrible in there.

3881
02:45:34,479 --> 02:45:35,760
>> Yes.

3882
02:45:35,760 --> 02:45:38,560
>> All right. Very good. All right. If

3883
02:45:38,560 --> 02:45:39,680
there are no further questions or

3884
02:45:39,680 --> 02:45:41,279
comments from council, do we have a

3885
02:45:41,279 --> 02:45:47,030
motion to approve the final platform?

3886
02:45:47,040 --> 02:45:49,840
Is it 304 North Chrome? 304 North

3887
02:45:49,840 --> 02:45:51,680
Chrome. We have a motion to approve the

3888
02:45:51,680 --> 02:45:54,880
final plat. Moved by Vice Mayor Bailey,

3889
02:45:54,880 --> 02:45:57,200
second by Councilman Cannibal. A roll

3890
02:45:57,200 --> 02:45:59,359
call, please, Madam Clerk.

3891
02:45:59,359 --> 02:46:01,040
>> Councilwoman Avula,

3892
02:46:01,040 --> 02:46:02,399
>> Councilwoman Ksky,

3893
02:46:02,399 --> 02:46:02,720
>> yes.

3894
02:46:02,720 --> 02:46:04,080
>> Councilman Ross.

3895
02:46:04,080 --> 02:46:05,279
>> Councilman Fletcher,

3896
02:46:05,279 --> 02:46:05,760
>> yes.

3897
02:46:05,760 --> 02:46:06,880
>> Councilman Cannibal,

3898
02:46:06,880 --> 02:46:07,359
>> yes.

3899
02:46:07,359 --> 02:46:08,319
>> Vice Mayor Bailey,

3900
02:46:08,319 --> 02:46:08,640
>> yes.

3901
02:46:08,640 --> 02:46:09,520
>> Mayor Losner,

3902
02:46:09,520 --> 02:46:09,840
>> yes.

3903
02:46:09,840 --> 02:46:10,720
>> The motion carries.

3904
02:46:10,720 --> 02:46:12,479
>> So now back to tab 12.

3905
02:46:12,479 --> 02:46:15,359
>> Yes, Mayor. So tab 12 and 13 are going

3906
02:46:15,359 --> 02:46:17,279
to be legislative matters. So we can

3907
02:46:17,279 --> 02:46:18,160
take those.

3908
02:46:18,160 --> 02:46:19,120
>> Okay.

3909
02:46:19,120 --> 02:46:23,359
>> Up now. So tab 12 car number 4951 is an

3910
02:46:23,359 --> 02:46:24,479
ordinance of the city of Homestead

3911
02:46:24,479 --> 02:46:25,600
Florida amending the city code of

3912
02:46:25,600 --> 02:46:27,279
ordinances by amending chapter 25

3913
02:46:27,279 --> 02:46:29,359
subdivision and platting article one and

3914
02:46:29,359 --> 02:46:31,920
general section 25-1 definitions and

3915
02:46:31,920 --> 02:46:33,760
further creating article 16 uniting

3916
02:46:33,760 --> 02:46:35,520
title covenant in l thereof providing

3917
02:46:35,520 --> 02:46:37,040
for severability inclusion of the code

3918
02:46:37,040 --> 02:46:38,399
conflicts and providing for effective

3919
02:46:38,399 --> 02:46:40,960
dates for treaty

3920
02:46:40,960 --> 02:46:42,880
>> and we heard this at the LPA. Are there

3921
02:46:42,880 --> 02:46:44,080
any further questions or comments?

3922
02:46:44,080 --> 02:46:46,399
Council Fletcher approval. Moved by

3923
02:46:46,399 --> 02:46:48,240
Councilman Fletcher. Second

3924
02:46:48,240 --> 02:46:48,880
>> the warehouse.

3925
02:46:48,880 --> 02:46:49,520
>> Second by me.

3926
02:46:49,520 --> 02:46:52,240
>> Second by Councilman Cannibal. Want to

3927
02:46:52,240 --> 02:46:56,550
make your appearance. Marissa.

3928
02:46:56,560 --> 02:46:58,800
» Good evening. Marita Haro, office at 200

3929
02:46:58,800 --> 02:47:00,880
South Piscane Boulevard. Available for

3930
02:47:00,880 --> 02:47:04,550
any questions.

3931
02:47:04,560 --> 02:47:05,920
» There are some.

3932
02:47:05,920 --> 02:47:08,160
>> There are there's several contracts.

3933
02:47:08,160 --> 02:47:10,399
This is one of the cleanup items to be

3934
02:47:10,399 --> 02:47:13,359
able to close on those. Can you can you

3935
02:47:13,359 --> 02:47:15,359
share any insight as to what the

3936
02:47:15,359 --> 02:47:16,640
community can expect in terms of

3937
02:47:16,640 --> 02:47:18,000
businesses coming in?

3938
02:47:18,000 --> 02:47:20,240
>> I don't have any of that. Um I will

3939
02:47:20,240 --> 02:47:22,160
inquire as to that and I'll be back for

3940
02:47:22,160 --> 02:47:22,880
a second reading.

3941
02:47:22,880 --> 02:47:23,680
>> Perfect. Thank you.

3942
02:47:23,680 --> 02:47:25,439
>> Thank you.

3943
02:47:25,439 --> 02:47:27,920
>> All right. We have a motion and a second

3944
02:47:27,920 --> 02:47:32,720
on tab 12. Let's have a roll call vote.

3945
02:47:32,720 --> 02:47:33,920
>> Councilman Fletcher.

3946
02:47:33,920 --> 02:47:34,319
>> Yes.

3947
02:47:34,319 --> 02:47:35,680
>> Councilwoman Ksky.

3948
02:47:35,680 --> 02:47:36,160
>> Yes.

3949
02:47:36,160 --> 02:47:37,600
>> Councilwoman Abilo. Yes.

3950
02:47:37,600 --> 02:47:38,880
>> Councilman Cannibal.

3951
02:47:38,880 --> 02:47:39,279
>> Yes.

3952
02:47:39,279 --> 02:47:42,080
>> Councilman Ross. Vice Mayor Bailey.

3953
02:47:42,080 --> 02:47:42,399
>> Yes.

3954
02:47:42,399 --> 02:47:43,279
>> Mayor Lawson.

3955
02:47:43,279 --> 02:47:43,600
>> Yes.

3956
02:47:43,600 --> 02:47:45,120
>> The motion carries.

3957
02:47:45,120 --> 02:47:48,319
>> And moving on to tab 13.

3958
02:47:48,319 --> 02:47:51,359
>> Yes. Tab 13, car number 4949, is an

3959
02:47:51,359 --> 02:47:52,640
ordinance of the city of Homestead,

3960
02:47:52,640 --> 02:47:54,080
Florida, amending the city code of

3961
02:47:54,080 --> 02:47:55,920
ordinances by amending chapter 29,

3962
02:47:55,920 --> 02:47:58,640
vegetation article one, landscaping by

3963
02:47:58,640 --> 02:48:00,160
establishing the minimum standards and

3964
02:48:00,160 --> 02:48:01,680
landscaping regulations pursuant to the

3965
02:48:01,680 --> 02:48:04,000
city of Homestead landscape manual to

3966
02:48:04,000 --> 02:48:05,279
supplement the Miami Day County

3967
02:48:05,279 --> 02:48:08,640
landscaping standards and requirements.

3968
02:48:08,640 --> 02:48:10,479
Establishing regulations related to

3969
02:48:10,479 --> 02:48:12,399
landscaping and irrigation certification

3970
02:48:12,399 --> 02:48:14,479
and reertification for properties

3971
02:48:14,479 --> 02:48:16,560
developed as multif family residential,

3972
02:48:16,560 --> 02:48:18,960
commercial and/or industrial and

3973
02:48:18,960 --> 02:48:20,479
providing for the enforcement of such

3974
02:48:20,479 --> 02:48:22,800
certification and reertification and

3975
02:48:22,800 --> 02:48:24,319
further amending article 2 tree

3976
02:48:24,319 --> 02:48:26,479
preservation and protection by modifying

3977
02:48:26,479 --> 02:48:28,399
regulations to clarify applicable permit

3978
02:48:28,399 --> 02:48:30,720
fees and tree preservation trust fund

3979
02:48:30,720 --> 02:48:32,319
contribution rates providing for

3980
02:48:32,319 --> 02:48:34,080
severability inclusion in the code

3981
02:48:34,080 --> 02:48:35,520
complex and providing for an effective

3982
02:48:35,520 --> 02:48:38,560
date. is for treating.

3983
02:48:38,560 --> 02:48:40,080
>> Hey, thank you. Question council.

3984
02:48:40,080 --> 02:48:41,120
Councilwoman,

3985
02:48:41,120 --> 02:48:43,040
>> thank you. I appreciate this initiative

3986
02:48:43,040 --> 02:48:46,640
to create uh a comprehensive plan for

3987
02:48:46,640 --> 02:48:49,680
maintaining and and encouraging for our

3988
02:48:49,680 --> 02:48:52,240
um our developments and business

3989
02:48:52,240 --> 02:48:54,720
community to keep up their landscaping

3990
02:48:54,720 --> 02:48:56,960
minimum standards. Um, but I also think

3991
02:48:56,960 --> 02:48:59,120
it's an opportunity for us to consider

3992
02:48:59,120 --> 02:49:00,800
maybe between first reading and second

3993
02:49:00,800 --> 02:49:03,760
reading for me to try to plug in some

3994
02:49:03,760 --> 02:49:06,399
colorful sunflower initiatives within

3995
02:49:06,399 --> 02:49:08,399
our city buildings and with some of the

3996
02:49:08,399 --> 02:49:09,920
landscape designs. And I know that

3997
02:49:09,920 --> 02:49:11,920
they're seasonal and you know there

3998
02:49:11,920 --> 02:49:14,640
could be potentially um some encouraged

3999
02:49:14,640 --> 02:49:19,600
and and um influential verbiage to try

4000
02:49:19,600 --> 02:49:22,240
to promote seasonal changes within the

4001
02:49:22,240 --> 02:49:24,160
development design standards. So if

4002
02:49:24,160 --> 02:49:26,080
there's no objection to anyone on

4003
02:49:26,080 --> 02:49:28,560
sunflowers and how beautiful they are, I

4004
02:49:28,560 --> 02:49:29,760
would just like to have that

4005
02:49:29,760 --> 02:49:34,550
encouragement.

4006
02:49:34,560 --> 02:49:36,479
» Go ahead, council. Pleasure. So again,

4007
02:49:36,479 --> 02:49:38,800
they are a good-looking flower, but the

4008
02:49:38,800 --> 02:49:40,399
problem with sunflowers is once you

4009
02:49:40,399 --> 02:49:42,800
plant one, they continue to blow

4010
02:49:42,800 --> 02:49:44,720
throughout and they spread everywhere.

4011
02:49:44,720 --> 02:49:46,319
Uh that's the only issue I have with

4012
02:49:46,319 --> 02:49:47,600
them because once you plant them, they

4013
02:49:47,600 --> 02:49:49,840
spread everywhere. But other than that,

4014
02:49:49,840 --> 02:49:51,120
they're they're nice looking flowers and

4015
02:49:51,120 --> 02:49:53,200
I like the idea.

4016
02:49:53,200 --> 02:49:56,319
at my my concern would be is this this

4017
02:49:56,319 --> 02:49:59,279
booklet enacting this is with with

4018
02:49:59,279 --> 02:50:02,080
respect to and correct me if I'm wrong

4019
02:50:02,080 --> 02:50:04,960
respect to the installation of permanent

4020
02:50:04,960 --> 02:50:07,200
landscaping.

4021
02:50:07,200 --> 02:50:11,439
We could encourage that as we plant

4022
02:50:11,439 --> 02:50:13,920
downtown when that's

4023
02:50:13,920 --> 02:50:18,800
rebuilt and in other places. But um

4024
02:50:18,800 --> 02:50:21,359
sunflowers are

4025
02:50:21,359 --> 02:50:22,960
seasonal and this

4026
02:50:22,960 --> 02:50:25,120
>> correct you might be very right and I

4027
02:50:25,120 --> 02:50:26,640
might bring it back in a different way

4028
02:50:26,640 --> 02:50:28,479
but I'll just look into some options.

4029
02:50:28,479 --> 02:50:29,760
>> Yeah I mean and I think there's an

4030
02:50:29,760 --> 02:50:32,560
opportunity to do that but not in this

4031
02:50:32,560 --> 02:50:33,439
guide book

4032
02:50:33,439 --> 02:50:37,040
>> maybe not maybe not here there's some

4033
02:50:37,040 --> 02:50:39,279
proposals to create new districts. So

4034
02:50:39,279 --> 02:50:41,439
maybe we can incorporate that when we

4035
02:50:41,439 --> 02:50:43,439
incorporate the new districts and things

4036
02:50:43,439 --> 02:50:45,600
that they're going to put there for

4037
02:50:45,600 --> 02:50:47,680
public benefit and for use of the

4038
02:50:47,680 --> 02:50:51,040
public. Maybe we can incorporate that as

4039
02:50:51,040 --> 02:50:52,640
a seasonal program.

4040
02:50:52,640 --> 02:50:54,479
>> Thank you. I'll explore options. Thank

4041
02:50:54,479 --> 02:50:55,840
you.

4042
02:50:55,840 --> 02:50:57,359
>> You know, it's it's not a bad idea. I

4043
02:50:57,359 --> 02:50:58,319
just don't know if it's properly

4044
02:50:58,319 --> 02:51:00,399
included here in the permanent

4045
02:51:00,399 --> 02:51:04,960
landscaping guide. Okay. So, Council

4046
02:51:04,960 --> 02:51:07,520
Fletcher, you've lived here a long time.

4047
02:51:07,520 --> 02:51:09,600
Do you remember commercially grown

4048
02:51:09,600 --> 02:51:11,600
sunflowers or were they just pretty much

4049
02:51:11,600 --> 02:51:12,880
cover crops,

4050
02:51:12,880 --> 02:51:13,680
>> isolated cover?

4051
02:51:13,680 --> 02:51:15,279
>> Cover crops for the most part other than

4052
02:51:15,279 --> 02:51:17,439
Robert is here.

4053
02:51:17,439 --> 02:51:19,600
>> Yeah, it's just not not as a commercial

4054
02:51:19,600 --> 02:51:21,120
crop but a

4055
02:51:21,120 --> 02:51:23,520
>> man.

4056
02:51:23,520 --> 02:51:26,160
>> Dr. Fishman used to grow them 10, 20, 30

4057
02:51:26,160 --> 02:51:27,920
acres. I used to ensure them.

4058
02:51:27,920 --> 02:51:28,560
>> Where's that?

4059
02:51:28,560 --> 02:51:31,840
>> Dr. Fishman, he was a a local farmer. It

4060
02:51:31,840 --> 02:51:34,880
was a hobby, but it was his son grew

4061
02:51:34,880 --> 02:51:38,479
sunflowers for commercial cut flowers.

4062
02:51:38,479 --> 02:51:41,439
>> And I am I am aware of uh existing

4063
02:51:41,439 --> 02:51:43,359
farmers, not in the city of Homestead,

4064
02:51:43,359 --> 02:51:45,680
but local nearby that still grow

4065
02:51:45,680 --> 02:51:47,040
sunflowers. Thank you.

4066
02:51:47,040 --> 02:51:48,479
>> I'm just always concerned that we're

4067
02:51:48,479 --> 02:51:52,399
going to perpetuate a fiction. You know,

4068
02:51:52,399 --> 02:51:54,960
uh tomatoes were not a fiction. Mangoes

4069
02:51:54,960 --> 02:51:57,279
were not a fiction. Avocados are not a

4070
02:51:57,279 --> 02:51:59,840
fiction. Vice Mayor B,

4071
02:51:59,840 --> 02:52:01,920
>> I just wanted to ask real quick, this is

4072
02:52:01,920 --> 02:52:04,000
the item that I was asking doesn't apply

4073
02:52:04,000 --> 02:52:07,200
to the last discussion item we had, the

4074
02:52:07,200 --> 02:52:09,279
LAR project.

4075
02:52:09,279 --> 02:52:11,040
>> This would standards,

4076
02:52:11,040 --> 02:52:13,760
>> right? So that's what I meant is they

4077
02:52:13,760 --> 02:52:15,359
would fall in line with this where the

4078
02:52:15,359 --> 02:52:18,640
inspection would happen 12 months after.

4079
02:52:18,640 --> 02:52:21,120
Okay, that's what I wanted clarity on.

4080
02:52:21,120 --> 02:52:23,120
>> Okay. And I'm growing sunflowers in my

4081
02:52:23,120 --> 02:52:24,479
kitchen. I'll send you pictures when

4082
02:52:24,479 --> 02:52:27,200
they start blooming.

4083
02:52:27,200 --> 02:52:28,560
You have to put them on the floor.

4084
02:52:28,560 --> 02:52:29,680
They're going to get so tall.

4085
02:52:29,680 --> 02:52:32,880
>> I have a hydroponic uh power thing. Yes.

4086
02:52:32,880 --> 02:52:34,640
>> Okay. Neat.

4087
02:52:34,640 --> 02:52:37,520
>> All right. Did we vote on the landscape

4088
02:52:37,520 --> 02:52:38,399
guide?

4089
02:52:38,399 --> 02:52:41,040
>> No. Okay. Do we have a motion and a

4090
02:52:41,040 --> 02:52:43,520
second on the landscape guide?

4091
02:52:43,520 --> 02:52:45,920
>> Moved by Councilwoman Avala, second by

4092
02:52:45,920 --> 02:52:47,840
Councilman Cannibal. Let's have a roll

4093
02:52:47,840 --> 02:52:50,720
call on the landscape guide.

4094
02:52:50,720 --> 02:52:51,760
>> Councilman Ross.

4095
02:52:51,760 --> 02:52:52,640
>> Yes.

4096
02:52:52,640 --> 02:52:54,160
>> Councilwoman Ksky.

4097
02:52:54,160 --> 02:52:55,920
>> Yes. Councilman Cannibal,

4098
02:52:55,920 --> 02:52:56,479
>> yes.

4099
02:52:56,479 --> 02:52:57,760
>> Councilwoman Abula,

4100
02:52:57,760 --> 02:52:58,319
>> yes.

4101
02:52:58,319 --> 02:52:59,920
>> Councilman Fletcher,

4102
02:52:59,920 --> 02:53:01,359
>> Vice Mayor Bailey,

4103
02:53:01,359 --> 02:53:02,560
>> Mayor Lawson,

4104
02:53:02,560 --> 02:53:03,120
>> yes.

4105
02:53:03,120 --> 02:53:04,160
>> Motion carries.

4106
02:53:04,160 --> 02:53:12,870
>> And that takes us to tab 14.

4107
02:53:12,880 --> 02:53:16,000
» Yes. Tab 14, car number 4982 is an

4108
02:53:16,000 --> 02:53:17,279
ordinance of the city of Homestead,

4109
02:53:17,279 --> 02:53:18,479
Florida, amending the city code of

4110
02:53:18,479 --> 02:53:20,960
ordinances by amending chapter 16, local

4111
02:53:20,960 --> 02:53:23,279
business taxes and business regulations,

4112
02:53:23,279 --> 02:53:26,000
creating article 7, certificate of use,

4113
02:53:26,000 --> 02:53:27,760
providing for definitions, application

4114
02:53:27,760 --> 02:53:30,080
procedures, fees, regulation, denial,

4115
02:53:30,080 --> 02:53:31,840
revocation and suspension of certificate

4116
02:53:31,840 --> 02:53:33,920
of use, providing conflict severability

4117
02:53:33,920 --> 02:53:35,439
and providing for an effective date.

4118
02:53:35,439 --> 02:53:37,040
This is first reading.

4119
02:53:37,040 --> 02:53:39,600
>> Thank you, Madam Director.

4120
02:53:39,600 --> 02:53:42,160
Yes, this is the certificate of use that

4121
02:53:42,160 --> 02:53:44,560
we are making official a process that we

4122
02:53:44,560 --> 02:53:46,960
already has have when a new application

4123
02:53:46,960 --> 02:53:49,920
comes. We review first if they are

4124
02:53:49,920 --> 02:53:52,160
approvable, if they are allowed in that

4125
02:53:52,160 --> 02:53:54,560
zoning district and then we check with

4126
02:53:54,560 --> 02:53:56,880
the building department if the use is

4127
02:53:56,880 --> 02:53:59,120
established or not and if it's not they

4128
02:53:59,120 --> 02:54:02,000
need a change of use. So in this way

4129
02:54:02,000 --> 02:54:04,560
before applying to the BTR the applicant

4130
02:54:04,560 --> 02:54:06,319
will have to obtain the certificate of

4131
02:54:06,319 --> 02:54:09,200
use and this after that it will be very

4132
02:54:09,200 --> 02:54:11,520
easy to go and pay for the business tax

4133
02:54:11,520 --> 02:54:14,880
receipt and then it lasts forever if the

4134
02:54:14,880 --> 02:54:16,640
business is the same is the same

4135
02:54:16,640 --> 02:54:19,279
ownership. If they change they need to

4136
02:54:19,279 --> 02:54:21,279
come and they need to ask for a new

4137
02:54:21,279 --> 02:54:23,760
certificate of use but that will this

4138
02:54:23,760 --> 02:54:26,160
will give clarity and the person that is

4139
02:54:26,160 --> 02:54:29,760
renting a a space or that is moving to a

4140
02:54:29,760 --> 02:54:31,680
Once they have that business

4141
02:54:31,680 --> 02:54:34,240
established, that certificate of use

4142
02:54:34,240 --> 02:54:36,560
will clearly point to the what is

4143
02:54:36,560 --> 02:54:38,880
allowed there.

4144
02:54:38,880 --> 02:54:40,960
>> Okay. Thank you. Appreciate that.

4145
02:54:40,960 --> 02:54:43,120
>> Well, let's Okay, go ahead. We'll get it

4146
02:54:43,120 --> 02:54:44,560
on the table. Moved by Councilman

4147
02:54:44,560 --> 02:54:47,279
Cannibal, second by Councilman Roth. So,

4148
02:54:47,279 --> 02:54:48,640
I'll open the floor to questions and

4149
02:54:48,640 --> 02:54:51,760
comments on this item.

4150
02:54:51,760 --> 02:54:53,120
>> Council Fletcher.

4151
02:54:53,120 --> 02:54:55,120
>> Yes. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Uh although I

4152
02:54:55,120 --> 02:54:56,720
think something like this is needed, I

4153
02:54:56,720 --> 02:54:58,080
think we need to have a little more

4154
02:54:58,080 --> 02:55:01,200
detail as to what the overall impact's

4155
02:55:01,200 --> 02:55:03,200
going to be. I would request that we

4156
02:55:03,200 --> 02:55:05,840
defer this to a to a special call or a

4157
02:55:05,840 --> 02:55:08,479
workshop to uh understand what the

4158
02:55:08,479 --> 02:55:10,160
impacts could be because I think it's

4159
02:55:10,160 --> 02:55:12,479
going to be quite significant to someone

4160
02:55:12,479 --> 02:55:17,439
who may be a a small office and they decide to add an additional person

4161
02:55:17,439 --> 02:55:19,600
to their office that could uh possibly

4162
02:55:19,600 --> 02:55:21,359
affect costs.

4163
02:55:21,359 --> 02:55:23,600
>> That that doesn't apply. For example, if

4164
02:55:23,600 --> 02:55:26,080
you call a medical office and you have

4165
02:55:26,080 --> 02:55:27,840
15 doctors and then you're going to

4166
02:55:27,840 --> 02:55:29,920
change and have 17, you just come, you

4167
02:55:29,920 --> 02:55:32,240
add the doctors, but that doesn't change

4168
02:55:32,240 --> 02:55:34,080
the use of the business. It's just

4169
02:55:34,080 --> 02:55:36,960
adding one more professional to to the

4170
02:55:36,960 --> 02:55:37,920
business.

4171
02:55:37,920 --> 02:55:39,200
>> Councilman, if I may,

4172
02:55:39,200 --> 02:55:39,680
>> please.

4173
02:55:39,680 --> 02:55:44,160
>> Thank you. And not to um um

4174
02:55:44,160 --> 02:55:45,680
discredit the work that's been done by

4175
02:55:45,680 --> 02:55:47,200
the development services department and

4176
02:55:47,200 --> 02:55:48,960
staff in general, but I did have similar

4177
02:55:48,960 --> 02:55:50,640
concerns. And so I'll move to defer this

4178
02:55:50,640 --> 02:55:55,030
item.

4179
02:55:55,040 --> 02:55:57,920
Second it

4180
02:55:57,920 --> 02:56:00,800
>> with the with the we need to have a

4181
02:56:00,800 --> 02:56:04,240
workshop I think to discuss this.

4182
02:56:04,240 --> 02:56:06,240
>> Yeah. you know, and and I I had asked a

4183
02:56:06,240 --> 02:56:07,600
lot of these questions, some probably

4184
02:56:07,600 --> 02:56:12,000
some of the same questions you had on my one-on-one, and I was I was prepared

4185
02:56:12,000 --> 02:56:13,760
to talk about some of the questions and

4186
02:56:13,760 --> 02:56:15,600
concerns and and amendments that I'd

4187
02:56:15,600 --> 02:56:16,880
like to see just and I'll go ahead and

4188
02:56:16,880 --> 02:56:18,319
put them out there for, you know, the

4189
02:56:18,319 --> 02:56:20,640
future discussion was that I don't know

4190
02:56:20,640 --> 02:56:22,640
that a change in ownership or business

4191
02:56:22,640 --> 02:56:26,160
name should trigger the requirement of a

4192
02:56:26,160 --> 02:56:27,760
CU

4193
02:56:27,760 --> 02:56:33,040
that take that off the table, but um

4194
02:56:33,040 --> 02:56:35,439
with a caveat Because we see a lot a lot

4195
02:56:35,439 --> 02:56:39,760
of these issues that if in the event of

4196
02:56:39,760 --> 02:56:43,439
a change of name or ownership, we might

4197
02:56:43,439 --> 02:56:45,840
want to leave the opportunity open to

4198
02:56:45,840 --> 02:56:48,000
bring signage in comp into compliance

4199
02:56:48,000 --> 02:56:50,640
and landscaping into compliance. But

4200
02:56:50,640 --> 02:56:54,880
beyond that, to to open up a property

4201
02:56:54,880 --> 02:56:57,760
just by virtue of someone selling their

4202
02:56:57,760 --> 02:56:59,680
business or bringing in a partner and

4203
02:56:59,680 --> 02:57:04,399
changing their name, I don't know that would would merit uh having to go

4204
02:57:04,399 --> 02:57:07,840
through the uh certificate of use uh

4205
02:57:07,840 --> 02:57:09,359
process. Just those were some of the

4206
02:57:09,359 --> 02:57:12,560
thoughts I had. Um you know that we can

4207
02:57:12,560 --> 02:57:14,479
address it you know next reading or

4208
02:57:14,479 --> 02:57:17,439
workshop what whatever that may uh may

4209
02:57:17,439 --> 02:57:19,359
be. You know it's an interesting balance

4210
02:57:19,359 --> 02:57:22,160
between We can't allow buildings that

4211
02:57:22,160 --> 02:57:25,279
clearly have violations to continue

4212
02:57:25,279 --> 02:57:28,319
forever, but we want to be respectful of

4213
02:57:28,319 --> 02:57:30,960
businesses who

4214
02:57:30,960 --> 02:57:34,479
are continuing. Um, it's going to be a

4215
02:57:34,479 --> 02:57:36,240
real educational process though, I

4216
02:57:36,240 --> 02:57:38,240
think, that we're going to have to to be

4217
02:57:38,240 --> 02:57:40,720
very attuned to with respect to realtors

4218
02:57:40,720 --> 02:57:43,120
and commercial landlords because they're

4219
02:57:43,120 --> 02:57:44,560
the ones who are going to bear some of

4220
02:57:44,560 --> 02:57:46,800
the brunt and we don't want folks

4221
02:57:46,800 --> 02:57:49,120
signing a lease and putting down real

4222
02:57:49,120 --> 02:57:51,760
money and being obligated for real money

4223
02:57:51,760 --> 02:57:54,160
and getting into a monthsl long process

4224
02:57:54,160 --> 02:57:57,680
either. So, if we could schedule a uh a

4225
02:57:57,680 --> 02:58:00,640
workshop post haste, that would be a uh

4226
02:58:00,640 --> 02:58:02,319
a good thing. So, let's have a roll call

4227
02:58:02,319 --> 02:58:04,160
on the motion to defer. Yes, council.

4228
02:58:04,160 --> 02:58:04,560
I'm sorry.

4229
02:58:04,560 --> 02:58:05,600
>> Let me Yeah, because I had some

4230
02:58:05,600 --> 02:58:06,560
concerns, too.

4231
02:58:06,560 --> 02:58:08,160
>> Um, in reference that, but I think what

4232
02:58:08,160 --> 02:58:09,840
this does is kind of speeds up the

4233
02:58:09,840 --> 02:58:11,920
process so that they don't go to one

4234
02:58:11,920 --> 02:58:13,920
department and get an approval, but go

4235
02:58:13,920 --> 02:58:15,200
to the next department and they don't

4236
02:58:15,200 --> 02:58:16,640
get an approval because of zoning or

4237
02:58:16,640 --> 02:58:19,760
because of change of use. And uh there's

4238
02:58:19,760 --> 02:58:22,399
also some safety

4239
02:58:22,399 --> 02:58:24,240
um things that kick in. As soon as

4240
02:58:24,240 --> 02:58:28,319
there's a a change of ownership when you

4241
02:58:28,319 --> 02:58:31,600
come for your uh your uh business

4242
02:58:31,600 --> 02:58:33,920
license, you automatically trigger

4243
02:58:33,920 --> 02:58:35,439
safety inspections.

4244
02:58:35,439 --> 02:58:36,720
>> So they have to come and they have to

4245
02:58:36,720 --> 02:58:39,920
look at the electrical and the HVAC, you

4246
02:58:39,920 --> 02:58:41,279
know, all the all the systems in the

4247
02:58:41,279 --> 02:58:43,920
building which then trigger other

4248
02:58:43,920 --> 02:58:46,000
things. they will trigger other things

4249
02:58:46,000 --> 02:58:47,840
because as you said some of these

4250
02:58:47,840 --> 02:58:49,680
buildings that are dilapitated or or

4251
02:58:49,680 --> 02:58:51,439
that haven't been maintained over you

4252
02:58:51,439 --> 02:58:55,200
know 20 40 50 years whatever um they get

4253
02:58:55,200 --> 02:58:57,760
caught up in all that stuff. So, um, and

4254
02:58:57,760 --> 02:58:58,960
my other thing was, and you mentioned

4255
02:58:58,960 --> 02:59:01,040
real estate agents and and commercial

4256
02:59:01,040 --> 02:59:05,040
property owners, um,

4257
02:59:05,040 --> 02:59:07,760
when I had my one-on- ones, the the the

4258
02:59:07,760 --> 02:59:11,040
biggest problem is the unsuspecting

4259
02:59:11,040 --> 02:59:13,279
potential tenant,

4260
02:59:13,279 --> 02:59:15,359
>> signs a lease,

4261
02:59:15,359 --> 02:59:21,040
and then goes through the process. And I couldn't figure out and we talked

4262
02:59:21,040 --> 02:59:22,560
about it a little bit in in in the

4263
02:59:22,560 --> 02:59:25,120
oneonone is how do we change that where

4264
02:59:25,120 --> 02:59:27,359
it becomes the responsibility

4265
02:59:27,359 --> 02:59:31,120
of a property owner or a professional

4266
02:59:31,120 --> 02:59:34,560
real estate agent that needs to disclose

4267
02:59:34,560 --> 02:59:37,680
that there may be these challenges in

4268
02:59:37,680 --> 02:59:40,720
the future where a change of use may be

4269
02:59:40,720 --> 02:59:43,200
needed and that's not a one-mon process

4270
02:59:43,200 --> 02:59:45,200
that's a six-month process

4271
02:59:45,200 --> 02:59:47,840
>> at that. So there are a lot of things

4272
02:59:47,840 --> 02:59:51,040
that we we can can speed up, but I think

4273
02:59:51,040 --> 02:59:52,880
there's also things we can't change. And

4274
02:59:52,880 --> 02:59:54,720
I think the workshop will be very

4275
02:59:54,720 --> 02:59:57,680
enlightening to a lot of us that uh that

4276
02:59:57,680 --> 02:59:59,040
some of most of us that are familiar

4277
02:59:59,040 --> 03:00:00,720
with it know it, but those that aren't

4278
03:00:00,720 --> 03:00:03,279
will learn a great deal about this whole

4279
03:00:03,279 --> 03:00:06,080
process. So I just want to put that on

4280
03:00:06,080 --> 03:00:07,680
there so we can talk about those things

4281
03:00:07,680 --> 03:00:10,479
in uh whatever we do next, workshop or

4282
03:00:10,479 --> 03:00:12,080
special call, whatever it is.

4283
03:00:12,080 --> 03:00:14,080
>> Yes, Councilwoman. And to Councilman

4284
03:00:14,080 --> 03:00:15,920
Roth's point, I mean, I have advocated

4285
03:00:15,920 --> 03:00:18,319
for a long time for relationship

4286
03:00:18,319 --> 03:00:20,000
building between the city of Homestead

4287
03:00:20,000 --> 03:00:22,399
and our partners in the community, which

4288
03:00:22,399 --> 03:00:24,640
include real estate professionals. And

4289
03:00:24,640 --> 03:00:26,720
perhaps we should be hosting workshops,

4290
03:00:26,720 --> 03:00:30,479
educational sessions in their arena, are

4291
03:00:30,479 --> 03:00:31,920
renting out the seminal theater and

4292
03:00:31,920 --> 03:00:34,720
inviting, you know, realtors to come and

4293
03:00:34,720 --> 03:00:37,200
listen. You know, what is it like to go

4294
03:00:37,200 --> 03:00:38,800
through the CU process? I mean, the

4295
03:00:38,800 --> 03:00:40,880
South Day Chamber of Commerce do does

4296
03:00:40,880 --> 03:00:44,160
this on a regular basis, and we're not

4297
03:00:44,160 --> 03:00:46,880
utilizing these tools to educate the

4298
03:00:46,880 --> 03:00:49,439
public to make our lives easier. And

4299
03:00:49,439 --> 03:00:52,479
that's much simpler in my mind and will

4300
03:00:52,479 --> 03:00:55,040
be received um you know, much better

4301
03:00:55,040 --> 03:00:57,520
than a violation, an upset client, a

4302
03:00:57,520 --> 03:00:59,359
lease gone wrong. And that just

4303
03:00:59,359 --> 03:01:01,680
perpetuates more and more frustration

4304
03:01:01,680 --> 03:01:04,080
and aggravation. And these are not new

4305
03:01:04,080 --> 03:01:05,680
ideas that we've talked about. It just

4306
03:01:05,680 --> 03:01:07,439
needs action and it needs to be rolled

4307
03:01:07,439 --> 03:01:08,479
out. Thank you.

4308
03:01:08,479 --> 03:01:09,200
>> Right. Thank you.

4309
03:01:09,200 --> 03:01:11,120
>> Same thing goes for transferring

4310
03:01:11,120 --> 03:01:13,200
utilities and that process and the the

4311
03:01:13,200 --> 03:01:14,960
time it takes to close an account, open

4312
03:01:14,960 --> 03:01:17,040
a new account, then you have a a closing

4313
03:01:17,040 --> 03:01:18,800
happy closing date and they're all

4314
03:01:18,800 --> 03:01:20,240
moving in and there's no utilities and

4315
03:01:20,240 --> 03:01:21,680
they got to wait three days and then all

4316
03:01:21,680 --> 03:01:22,960
the deposit. Oh, there was an

4317
03:01:22,960 --> 03:01:24,960
outstanding bill till the seller gets

4318
03:01:24,960 --> 03:01:26,880
that paid. I mean, this is the chaos

4319
03:01:26,880 --> 03:01:30,240
that happens frequently and everyone

4320
03:01:30,240 --> 03:01:32,080
blames the city of Homestead. This never

4321
03:01:32,080 --> 03:01:34,319
happens with this never happens with

4322
03:01:34,319 --> 03:01:37,040
Miami date county. But you know what are

4323
03:01:37,040 --> 03:01:39,439
we doing about it? So sorry broken

4324
03:01:39,439 --> 03:01:40,720
record. Turning it off.

4325
03:01:40,720 --> 03:01:44,880
>> So let's vote on the motion to defer.

4326
03:01:44,880 --> 03:01:46,080
>> Councilwoman Aula.

4327
03:01:46,080 --> 03:01:46,560
>> Yes.

4328
03:01:46,560 --> 03:01:47,920
>> Councilman Ross.

4329
03:01:47,920 --> 03:01:49,359
>> Councilwoman Ksky.

4330
03:01:49,359 --> 03:01:49,760
>> Yes.

4331
03:01:49,760 --> 03:01:50,800
>> Councilman Cannibal.

4332
03:01:50,800 --> 03:01:51,120
>> Yes.

4333
03:01:51,120 --> 03:01:52,160
>> Councilman Fletcher.

4334
03:01:52,160 --> 03:01:52,560
>> Yes.

4335
03:01:52,560 --> 03:01:53,600
>> Vice Mayor Bailey.

4336
03:01:53,600 --> 03:01:54,000
>> Yes.

4337
03:01:54,000 --> 03:01:54,880
>> Mayor Losner.

4338
03:01:54,880 --> 03:01:55,120
>> Yes.

4339
03:01:55,120 --> 03:01:57,120
>> The motion carries.

4340
03:01:57,120 --> 03:02:00,319
>> So that should take us to

4341
03:02:00,319 --> 03:02:03,990
>> 20.

4342
03:02:04,000 --> 03:02:05,920
Tab 20 is the first reading of an

4343
03:02:05,920 --> 03:02:07,120
ordinance of the city of Homestead,

4344
03:02:07,120 --> 03:02:08,479
Florida, amending the budget for the

4345
03:02:08,479 --> 03:02:09,680
general fund for the fiscal year

4346
03:02:09,680 --> 03:02:11,920
beginning October 1, 2025 and ending

4347
03:02:11,920 --> 03:02:14,080
September 30th, 2026 by increasing the

4348
03:02:14,080 --> 03:02:15,920
total budgeted revenues and expenditures

4349
03:02:15,920 --> 03:02:18,240
by $50,000, providing for severability

4350
03:02:18,240 --> 03:02:21,200
and an effective date.

4351
03:02:21,200 --> 03:02:23,760
>> Right. This is just to move the the the

4352
03:02:23,760 --> 03:02:26,080
match for a grant we approved months

4353
03:02:26,080 --> 03:02:26,720
ago.

4354
03:02:26,720 --> 03:02:28,880
>> So, yeah, he moved it. I'm seconding it.

4355
03:02:28,880 --> 03:02:29,439
>> All right.

4356
03:02:29,439 --> 03:02:31,040
>> I would like more apple blossoms in

4357
03:02:31,040 --> 03:02:33,040
district five.

4358
03:02:33,040 --> 03:02:34,720
They'll die.

4359
03:02:34,720 --> 03:02:36,560
>> Apple blossom trees will die.

4360
03:02:36,560 --> 03:02:38,800
>> They're all over the Northwest.

4361
03:02:38,800 --> 03:02:40,399
>> Am I talking about the right tree?

4362
03:02:40,399 --> 03:02:40,720
>> So,

4363
03:02:40,720 --> 03:02:42,399
>> we might know by different names.

4364
03:02:42,399 --> 03:02:44,800
>> Oh, maybe the orchid trees. Those are be

4365
03:02:44,800 --> 03:02:49,510
some people call them apple blossoms.

4366
03:02:49,520 --> 03:02:51,120
» Give us the opportunity to check the

4367
03:02:51,120 --> 03:02:53,120
application for the grants. Usually they

4368
03:02:53,120 --> 03:02:56,319
will ask you to specify the tree species

4369
03:02:56,319 --> 03:02:56,960
before.

4370
03:02:56,960 --> 03:02:58,240
>> No, I'm just putting it on the record

4371
03:02:58,240 --> 03:03:02,399
that if there's an opportunity, please, please, more

4372
03:03:02,399 --> 03:03:04,640
>> flowerbearing trees. Thank you.

4373
03:03:04,640 --> 03:03:06,560
>> Your district's too affluent. Remember

4374
03:03:06,560 --> 03:03:08,640
those grant applications we approved

4375
03:03:08,640 --> 03:03:11,520
pretty much wipe you out because you're

4376
03:03:11,520 --> 03:03:13,040
not as poor as the rest of

4377
03:03:13,040 --> 03:03:15,279
>> No, District 5 in its entirety is within

4378
03:03:15,279 --> 03:03:17,040
the CDBG block.

4379
03:03:17,040 --> 03:03:18,640
>> Let me remind you, please,

4380
03:03:18,640 --> 03:03:20,000
>> mayor and council, let's put some

4381
03:03:20,000 --> 03:03:23,040
context to this. This item is for a tree

4382
03:03:23,040 --> 03:03:24,479
sensors.

4383
03:03:24,479 --> 03:03:26,560
>> I understand for the grants for trees

4384
03:03:26,560 --> 03:03:28,319
will consider your recommendation.

4385
03:03:28,319 --> 03:03:28,560
>> Right.

4386
03:03:28,560 --> 03:03:29,600
>> Yes. Thank you. I am taking the

4387
03:03:29,600 --> 03:03:31,680
opportunity to vocalize.

4388
03:03:31,680 --> 03:03:34,800
>> Thank you.

4389
03:03:34,800 --> 03:03:36,880
>> Not until I get my royal palms back on

4390
03:03:36,880 --> 03:03:38,399
Chrome Avenue that I've been bitching

4391
03:03:38,399 --> 03:03:41,439
about for four years.

4392
03:03:41,439 --> 03:03:43,760
>> That the DOT killed when they widened

4393
03:03:43,760 --> 03:03:45,359
Chrome Avenue.

4394
03:03:45,359 --> 03:03:48,880
>> Yes, I said it.

4395
03:03:48,880 --> 03:03:51,359
>> That's a That was a Rotary project. Yes.

4396
03:03:51,359 --> 03:03:54,880
Roll call on the tree census grant.

4397
03:03:54,880 --> 03:03:56,640
>> Councilman Fletcher.

4398
03:03:56,640 --> 03:03:58,240
>> Councilwoman Abula.

4399
03:03:58,240 --> 03:03:59,359
>> Councilman Cannibal.

4400
03:03:59,359 --> 03:03:59,680
>> Yes.

4401
03:03:59,680 --> 03:04:00,880
>> Councilman Ra.

4402
03:04:00,880 --> 03:04:02,240
>> Councilwoman Ksky.

4403
03:04:02,240 --> 03:04:02,720
>> Yes.

4404
03:04:02,720 --> 03:04:04,399
>> Vice Mayor Bailey.

4405
03:04:04,399 --> 03:04:04,800
>> Yes.

4406
03:04:04,800 --> 03:04:06,000
>> Mayor Lawson.

4407
03:04:06,000 --> 03:04:07,439
>> Yes.

4408
03:04:07,439 --> 03:04:09,040
>> I'm telling the vice mayor is trying to

4409
03:04:09,040 --> 03:04:12,950
vote for Ksky.

4410
03:04:12,960 --> 03:04:17,190
» Okay.

4411
03:04:17,200 --> 03:04:19,200
21

4412
03:04:19,200 --> 03:04:20,800
>> 21 is the first reading of an ordinance

4413
03:04:20,800 --> 03:04:21,920
of the city of Homestead, Florida,

4414
03:04:21,920 --> 03:04:23,439
amending the city code of ordinances by

4415
03:04:23,439 --> 03:04:25,279
amending chapter 20 parks and recreation

4416
03:04:25,279 --> 03:04:26,720
to repeal and replace existing

4417
03:04:26,720 --> 03:04:28,880
regulations related to fees levied for

4418
03:04:28,880 --> 03:04:30,560
the use of park facilities, establishing

4419
03:04:30,560 --> 03:04:32,000
new schedule of fees for the use of city

4420
03:04:32,000 --> 03:04:33,840
facilities, providing for conflicts,

4421
03:04:33,840 --> 03:04:35,200
providing for severability, and

4422
03:04:35,200 --> 03:04:37,279
providing for an effective date.

4423
03:04:37,279 --> 03:04:40,800
>> I move to reject.

4424
03:04:40,800 --> 03:04:42,000
Sorry,

4425
03:04:42,000 --> 03:04:44,160
>> just for the sake of time, I don't agree

4426
03:04:44,160 --> 03:04:46,479
in codifying the park fees and I think

4427
03:04:46,479 --> 03:04:48,800
that this is something best kept in the

4428
03:04:48,800 --> 03:04:51,120
department per purview and I don't see a

4429
03:04:51,120 --> 03:04:54,080
reason why we should re remove the

4430
03:04:54,080 --> 03:04:58,880
ability for the park director to um

4431
03:04:58,880 --> 03:05:01,120
bring to us for council consideration

4432
03:05:01,120 --> 03:05:02,560
any changes throughout the year as

4433
03:05:02,560 --> 03:05:03,840
needed. I'm not sure why we have to

4434
03:05:03,840 --> 03:05:08,469
codify the park fees.

4435
03:05:08,479 --> 03:05:11,520
Okay. Anyone else?

4436
03:05:11,520 --> 03:05:13,840
All right. So, my thought on that would

4437
03:05:13,840 --> 03:05:15,760
be is we need to have consistency.

4438
03:05:15,760 --> 03:05:17,439
Everyone needs to understand what their

4439
03:05:17,439 --> 03:05:19,200
fee is and there can be no claims of

4440
03:05:19,200 --> 03:05:22,479
favoritism or corruption or whatever you

4441
03:05:22,479 --> 03:05:24,160
want to call it that no matter who you

4442
03:05:24,160 --> 03:05:26,720
are, who you know, you walk in the door

4443
03:05:26,720 --> 03:05:29,840
and and you pay the fee and they can be

4444
03:05:29,840 --> 03:05:32,319
amended by council from from time to

4445
03:05:32,319 --> 03:05:34,720
time. We we've been finding for years

4446
03:05:34,720 --> 03:05:36,720
that we do not have enough policy and

4447
03:05:36,720 --> 03:05:40,479
procedure in place.

4448
03:05:40,479 --> 03:05:42,240
Yes, Councilwoman Bailey, Vice Mayor

4449
03:05:42,240 --> 03:05:43,520
Bailey, I'm sorry.

4450
03:05:43,520 --> 03:05:46,800
>> I think um I think the main reason that

4451
03:05:46,800 --> 03:05:50,479
this is needed now more than ever is um

4452
03:05:50,479 --> 03:05:52,720
the amount of times that fees were waved

4453
03:05:52,720 --> 03:05:55,920
in the past. Um I know that I was a a

4454
03:05:55,920 --> 03:06:00,479
big part of that. Um but to be able to

4455
03:06:00,479 --> 03:06:05,359
advertise um nonprofits. Um, and just

4456
03:06:05,359 --> 03:06:07,120
the different the different parks and

4457
03:06:07,120 --> 03:06:10,399
the differences. Um, some are higher,

4458
03:06:10,399 --> 03:06:14,000
some are um in higher

4459
03:06:14,000 --> 03:06:17,040
requ they're requested more. Um, FICO

4460
03:06:17,040 --> 03:06:20,160
Williams is also just booked all the

4461
03:06:20,160 --> 03:06:22,880
time now. Um, so just to be able to have

4462
03:06:22,880 --> 03:06:24,479
that a little clearer out there for the

4463
03:06:24,479 --> 03:06:26,319
public for them to be able to make their

4464
03:06:26,319 --> 03:06:31,680
plans. We're booking things months and months in advance. So just

4465
03:06:31,680 --> 03:06:34,080
for that for that uh sake I think that

4466
03:06:34,080 --> 03:06:37,200
it is um it is needed.

4467
03:06:37,200 --> 03:06:38,880
>> Thank you vice mayor.

4468
03:06:38,880 --> 03:06:39,600
>> Anyone else?

4469
03:06:39,600 --> 03:06:43,920
>> Is there an is there any changes to the briefing that I received because

4470
03:06:43,920 --> 03:06:46,720
there was no section for the wave

4471
03:06:46,720 --> 03:06:48,560
considering the nonprofit.

4472
03:06:48,560 --> 03:06:50,640
That'll So there is a a separate

4473
03:06:50,640 --> 03:06:53,200
nonprofit price, but the the fee waiver

4474
03:06:53,200 --> 03:06:55,200
will still stand as one of us putting it

4475
03:06:55,200 --> 03:06:59,200
under our item and all of council voting

4476
03:06:59,200 --> 03:07:01,279
on splitting it or us using our

4477
03:07:01,279 --> 03:07:03,040
discretionary funds, but it wouldn't

4478
03:07:03,040 --> 03:07:05,600
just go into the black hole of of waving

4479
03:07:05,600 --> 03:07:07,359
the fees where it just comes out of the

4480
03:07:07,359 --> 03:07:10,319
park's budget.

4481
03:07:10,319 --> 03:07:12,560
>> Is that correct?

4482
03:07:12,560 --> 03:07:17,830
>> Would you like to move this item?

4483
03:07:17,840 --> 03:07:19,680
Okay. You didn't have a second anyway, I

4484
03:07:19,680 --> 03:07:22,399
don't think. Okay. So, do we have a

4485
03:07:22,399 --> 03:07:25,359
motion to adopt this item? Moved by

4486
03:07:25,359 --> 03:07:28,319
Councilman Roth, seconded by Vice Mayor

4487
03:07:28,319 --> 03:07:30,720
Bailey.

4488
03:07:30,720 --> 03:07:32,640
>> Roll call, please. Madam clerk.

4489
03:07:32,640 --> 03:07:36,309
>> Councilwoman Appla.

4490
03:07:36,319 --> 03:07:37,920
» Yes.

4491
03:07:37,920 --> 03:07:39,200
>> Councilman Fletcher.

4492
03:07:39,200 --> 03:07:39,760
>> Yes.

4493
03:07:39,760 --> 03:07:40,720
>> Councilman Roth.

4494
03:07:40,720 --> 03:07:41,279
>> Yes.

4495
03:07:41,279 --> 03:07:42,720
>> Councilwoman Ksky.

4496
03:07:42,720 --> 03:07:43,279
>> Yes.

4497
03:07:43,279 --> 03:07:44,479
>> Councilman Cannibal.

4498
03:07:44,479 --> 03:07:46,160
>> Yes. Vice Mayor Bailey. Yes.

4499
03:07:46,160 --> 03:07:47,040
>> Mayor Losner.

4500
03:07:47,040 --> 03:07:47,359
>> Yes.

4501
03:07:47,359 --> 03:07:48,720
>> The motion carries.

4502
03:07:48,720 --> 03:07:52,319
>> Thank you. So that would take us to tab

4503
03:07:52,319 --> 03:07:53,520
202

4504
03:07:53,520 --> 03:07:54,399
>> two.

4505
03:07:54,399 --> 03:07:56,479
>> Tab 22 is the first reading of an

4506
03:07:56,479 --> 03:07:57,680
ordinance of the city of Homestead,

4507
03:07:57,680 --> 03:07:59,680
Florida amending chapter 7, article 1,

4508
03:07:59,680 --> 03:08:02,720
section 7.5 of the city code entitled

4509
03:08:02,720 --> 03:08:04,080
Special Master System Creative

4510
03:08:04,080 --> 03:08:05,760
Qualifications Terms removal to revise

4511
03:08:05,760 --> 03:08:07,439
the qualifications and compensation

4512
03:08:07,439 --> 03:08:09,520
structure for special masters providing

4513
03:08:09,520 --> 03:08:10,960
for inclusion in the code providing for

4514
03:08:10,960 --> 03:08:12,640
severability providing for conflicts and

4515
03:08:12,640 --> 03:08:15,200
providing for an effective date.

4516
03:08:15,200 --> 03:08:17,040
Thank you sir. Yes vice mayor.

4517
03:08:17,040 --> 03:08:19,040
>> I'll move it with a quick comment. If

4518
03:08:19,040 --> 03:08:20,720
any of you have never been to one of the

4519
03:08:20,720 --> 03:08:24,319
special mast's meetings involving code.

4520
03:08:24,319 --> 03:08:27,040
Okay. So these

4521
03:08:27,040 --> 03:08:29,840
>> these volunteers work very hard and I

4522
03:08:29,840 --> 03:08:32,160
know it's tough for the city. So I think

4523
03:08:32,160 --> 03:08:34,479
this is a good a good move in the right

4524
03:08:34,479 --> 03:08:35,120
direction. So

4525
03:08:35,120 --> 03:08:36,319
>> and these these fees haven't been

4526
03:08:36,319 --> 03:08:38,160
adjusted for years.

4527
03:08:38,160 --> 03:08:39,920
>> Second. Okay. It's been moved by vice

4528
03:08:39,920 --> 03:08:42,080
mayor seconded by cannibal.

4529
03:08:42,080 --> 03:08:44,640
>> I just I do have Yes. Thank you. I

4530
03:08:44,640 --> 03:08:46,319
agree. We need to have the extra

4531
03:08:46,319 --> 03:08:48,160
resource. I just Is there a way to or

4532
03:08:48,160 --> 03:08:50,160
maybe I can get clarification. Is there

4533
03:08:50,160 --> 03:08:52,479
still an opportunity to leave the opport

4534
03:08:52,479 --> 03:08:53,600
there still a way to leave the

4535
03:08:53,600 --> 03:08:55,760
opportunity for a homestead resident to

4536
03:08:55,760 --> 03:08:57,760
serve who wants to serve so that the

4537
03:08:57,760 --> 03:09:00,000
position still is available? Because I

4538
03:09:00,000 --> 03:09:01,359
believe that the reason why this is

4539
03:09:01,359 --> 03:09:02,800
happening is because it's hard to fill.

4540
03:09:02,800 --> 03:09:04,319
It's hard to get the volunteers to be

4541
03:09:04,319 --> 03:09:07,359
able to do it. But if we

4542
03:09:07,359 --> 03:09:09,680
exclude them 100%,

4543
03:09:09,680 --> 03:09:10,800
then you're just taking away their

4544
03:09:10,800 --> 03:09:12,160
opportunity to serve the community in

4545
03:09:12,160 --> 03:09:14,240
that capacity.

4546
03:09:14,240 --> 03:09:17,120
Unless we really don't want any.

4547
03:09:17,120 --> 03:09:18,960
>> No. Okay. All right.

4548
03:09:18,960 --> 03:09:22,800
>> Councilwoman, I think the section 7-5

4549
03:09:22,800 --> 03:09:24,800
says, "Preference shall be given to

4550
03:09:24,800 --> 03:09:30,790
residents of the city of Homestead

4551
03:09:30,800 --> 03:09:31,680
» with the qualification

4552
03:09:31,680 --> 03:09:33,200
>> with the within the category.

4553
03:09:33,200 --> 03:09:33,600
>> Yeah.

4554
03:09:33,600 --> 03:09:36,319
>> Okay. Thank you for the clarification.

4555
03:09:36,319 --> 03:09:38,399
Mayor also an additional clarification

4556
03:09:38,399 --> 03:09:41,439
on 7-5 C

4557
03:09:41,439 --> 03:09:44,319
and A read together. The appointment for

4558
03:09:44,319 --> 03:09:46,319
special masters shall be met by the city

4559
03:09:46,319 --> 03:09:48,880
council with recommendation from the

4560
03:09:48,880 --> 03:09:50,319
administration. So we're going to make a

4561
03:09:50,319 --> 03:09:51,920
tweak between first and second reading.

4562
03:09:51,920 --> 03:09:53,200
>> Okay.

4563
03:09:53,200 --> 03:09:54,800
>> Good. Thank you. All right. So I believe

4564
03:09:54,800 --> 03:09:57,680
we had a motion in a second on

4565
03:09:57,680 --> 03:09:59,120
>> this item. So let's have a roll call

4566
03:09:59,120 --> 03:09:59,840
vote.

4567
03:09:59,840 --> 03:10:01,120
>> Councilwoman Ksky.

4568
03:10:01,120 --> 03:10:01,520
>> Yes.

4569
03:10:01,520 --> 03:10:02,640
>> Council member Ra.

4570
03:10:02,640 --> 03:10:03,120
>> Yes.

4571
03:10:03,120 --> 03:10:05,040
>> Councilwoman Abulu. Yes. Councilman

4572
03:10:05,040 --> 03:10:05,680
Cannibal.

4573
03:10:05,680 --> 03:10:06,000
>> Yes.

4574
03:10:06,000 --> 03:10:07,040
>> Councilman Fletcher.

4575
03:10:07,040 --> 03:10:07,439
>> Yes.

4576
03:10:07,439 --> 03:10:08,880
>> Vice Mayor Bailey.

4577
03:10:08,880 --> 03:10:09,840
>> Mayor Lawson.

4578
03:10:09,840 --> 03:10:10,240
>> Yes.

4579
03:10:10,240 --> 03:10:11,840
>> The motion carries.

4580
03:10:11,840 --> 03:10:15,120
>> Now for the really hard one. Tab 23.

4581
03:10:15,120 --> 03:10:20,630
Better extend the meeting to 10.

4582
03:10:20,640 --> 03:10:24,319
Tab 23 is

4583
03:10:24,319 --> 03:10:26,080
a resolution of the city council of the

4584
03:10:26,080 --> 03:10:27,359
city of Homestead, Florida, approving

4585
03:10:27,359 --> 03:10:28,479
first amendment to the addendum

4586
03:10:28,479 --> 03:10:29,840
increasing the scope of work for the

4587
03:10:29,840 --> 03:10:31,359
procurement and installation of epoxy

4588
03:10:31,359 --> 03:10:34,240
flooring at Harrisfield Park by Gel

4589
03:10:34,240 --> 03:10:36,880
Unlimited DBA Miracle Method of Miami

4590
03:10:36,880 --> 03:10:38,399
North in the amount not to exceed

4591
03:10:38,399 --> 03:10:41,200
$177,910

4592
03:10:41,200 --> 03:10:43,279
plus a city manner contingency allowance

4593
03:10:43,279 --> 03:10:45,680
of up to 10% for the total project cost

4594
03:10:45,680 --> 03:10:47,680
utilizing the interlocal purchasing

4595
03:10:47,680 --> 03:10:49,359
system here and after refer virtuous

4596
03:10:49,359 --> 03:10:54,389
tips RCSP2410401

4597
03:10:54,399 --> 03:10:56,240
agreement exempting the purchase from

4598
03:10:56,240 --> 03:10:57,920
competitive bidding pursuant to section

4599
03:10:57,920 --> 03:11:00,319
2-411.185

4600
03:11:00,319 --> 03:11:01,920
of the city code authorizing the city

4601
03:11:01,920 --> 03:11:03,279
manager to execute all necessary

4602
03:11:03,279 --> 03:11:04,800
documents providing for implementation

4603
03:11:04,800 --> 03:11:07,040
providing for an effective date.

4604
03:11:07,040 --> 03:11:09,279
>> Thank you. Um if you could bring the

4605
03:11:09,279 --> 03:11:10,720
samples back up I think councilwoman

4606
03:11:10,720 --> 03:11:15,830
Aava needs to take another peek at them.

4607
03:11:15,840 --> 03:11:16,800
» Mr. Mayor, if I may.

4608
03:11:16,800 --> 03:11:18,240
>> Which one is the top one you like?

4609
03:11:18,240 --> 03:11:19,439
That's what I want to know.

4610
03:11:19,439 --> 03:11:22,160
>> I'm not telling you.

4611
03:11:22,160 --> 03:11:23,439
>> Just circulate them down.

4612
03:11:23,439 --> 03:11:24,479
>> Mr. Mayor, if I may.

4613
03:11:24,479 --> 03:11:26,880
>> Yes. Uh, again, I don't want to get into

4614
03:11:26,880 --> 03:11:29,040
the color picking if you I'm going to

4615
03:11:29,040 --> 03:11:31,920
take number four. It's It's pretty close

4616
03:11:31,920 --> 03:11:34,560
to what current is currently there.

4617
03:11:34,560 --> 03:11:35,200
>> Yes.

4618
03:11:35,200 --> 03:11:36,479
>> What's the name? What's the name on

4619
03:11:36,479 --> 03:11:37,200
number four?

4620
03:11:37,200 --> 03:11:38,800
>> But here or there. Just remember this is

4621
03:11:38,800 --> 03:11:42,319
a this is a temporary fix.

4622
03:11:42,319 --> 03:11:42,960
13.

4623
03:11:42,960 --> 03:11:44,800
>> I know, but it's still temporary for if

4624
03:11:44,800 --> 03:11:47,840
we reimagine Harrisfield in the next few

4625
03:11:47,840 --> 03:11:50,640
years, the pavilion could be relocated

4626
03:11:50,640 --> 03:11:52,800
possibly. So, this could be temporary in

4627
03:11:52,800 --> 03:11:55,200
nature. I'm good. So, I I I will defer

4628
03:11:55,200 --> 03:11:58,800
to my colleagues, but

4629
03:11:58,800 --> 03:12:03,040
>> can we meet in the middle? Oops. Sorry.

4630
03:12:03,040 --> 03:12:04,560
>> Can we meet in the middle and add a

4631
03:12:04,560 --> 03:12:06,399
little brown so it ties into all the

4632
03:12:06,399 --> 03:12:09,520
wood? That is what I was bringing up

4633
03:12:09,520 --> 03:12:11,200
last time. There were no brown options.

4634
03:12:11,200 --> 03:12:12,880
Get at it.

4635
03:12:12,880 --> 03:12:14,640
>> Just a little brown will tie in with the

4636
03:12:14,640 --> 03:12:15,359
wood.

4637
03:12:15,359 --> 03:12:25,590
>> People try and walk up the walls.

4638
03:12:25,600 --> 03:12:28,319
» Whatever Vice Mayor Bailey wants, I will agree with.

4639
03:12:28,319 --> 03:12:33,030
>> No. No. Don't put that pressure on me.

4640
03:12:33,040 --> 03:12:43,510
» Yeah.

4641
03:12:43,520 --> 03:12:45,279
Firebrick. Is that what that is?

4642
03:12:45,279 --> 03:12:46,160
>> Do you like this one?

4643
03:12:46,160 --> 03:12:48,000
>> I think it meets in the middle. It goes

4644
03:12:48,000 --> 03:12:50,640
with the wood.

4645
03:12:50,640 --> 03:12:52,479
>> And gray is too trendy and doesn't go

4646
03:12:52,479 --> 03:12:57,110
with the wood.

4647
03:12:57,120 --> 03:12:59,120
» You're right. Comment from the vice

4648
03:12:59,120 --> 03:13:00,640
mayor.

4649
03:13:00,640 --> 03:13:02,720
>> I'm good with that one.

4650
03:13:02,720 --> 03:13:04,160
>> There's there's public for the

4651
03:13:04,160 --> 03:13:07,920
photographer. Right. Okay.

4652
03:13:07,920 --> 03:13:12,000
We we may have a cons is brickyard.

4653
03:13:12,000 --> 03:13:14,000
>> That's fine. But I have a question

4654
03:13:14,000 --> 03:13:15,120
though.

4655
03:13:15,120 --> 03:13:16,000
>> Not about the color.

4656
03:13:16,000 --> 03:13:18,640
>> Be be it be it noted that Councilman

4657
03:13:18,640 --> 03:13:28,790
Fletcher could care less.

4658
03:13:28,800 --> 03:13:30,000
» I just I just have a question. I'm

4659
03:13:30,000 --> 03:13:32,080
sorry. Not about the color, but it says

4660
03:13:32,080 --> 03:13:34,880
here 177,910

4661
03:13:34,880 --> 03:13:37,760
in the uh what what Matt read and it

4662
03:13:37,760 --> 03:13:40,399
says here 137280. So

4663
03:13:40,399 --> 03:13:41,439
>> I think I like this.

4664
03:13:41,439 --> 03:13:44,560
>> Is there a problem with that? I don't

4665
03:13:44,560 --> 03:13:47,359
know.

4666
03:13:47,359 --> 03:13:49,600
>> I believe that might have been a typo.

4667
03:13:49,600 --> 03:13:53,200
Um the actual proposal is 124,800

4668
03:13:53,200 --> 03:13:56,000
and then the 10% uh contingency is

4669
03:13:56,000 --> 03:13:59,760
another 12,000. So it's 137. That's with

4670
03:13:59,760 --> 03:14:00,960
contingency and everything. It's only

4671
03:14:00,960 --> 03:14:02,560
going to be 124

4672
03:14:02,560 --> 03:14:05,200
>> in the 170 something. What is that?

4673
03:14:05,200 --> 03:14:06,720
>> That looks like there must have been a

4674
03:14:06,720 --> 03:14:08,640
typo when they a mistake when they type

4675
03:14:08,640 --> 03:14:09,680
the

4676
03:14:09,680 --> 03:14:11,439
>> it's going to be then 13.

4677
03:14:11,439 --> 03:14:13,040
>> So 124,000.

4678
03:14:13,040 --> 03:14:14,160
>> Okay.

4679
03:14:14,160 --> 03:14:17,040
>> Plus 10% of the 137. That's just in

4680
03:14:17,040 --> 03:14:18,000
case.

4681
03:14:18,000 --> 03:14:18,880
>> Mayor, if I may.

4682
03:14:18,880 --> 03:14:20,479
>> Yes. I think we got the color picked up,

4683
03:14:20,479 --> 03:14:22,080
but in terms of the proposal and the

4684
03:14:22,080 --> 03:14:25,600
pricing, um did we did we go out to

4685
03:14:25,600 --> 03:14:27,760
multiple vendors or how did we get to

4686
03:14:27,760 --> 03:14:29,439
this um vendor?

4687
03:14:29,439 --> 03:14:31,520
>> So, at this at this time, this was done

4688
03:14:31,520 --> 03:14:33,840
via piggybacking um agreement. This

4689
03:14:33,840 --> 03:14:35,680
vendor did another job for us in the

4690
03:14:35,680 --> 03:14:38,800
past and um had a very good warranty and

4691
03:14:38,800 --> 03:14:41,279
the product has has, you know, stood the

4692
03:14:41,279 --> 03:14:43,439
test of time there.

4693
03:14:43,439 --> 03:14:45,120
>> Okay. because their their pricing is

4694
03:14:45,120 --> 03:14:48,319
saying $135 an hour to conduct and it's

4695
03:14:48,319 --> 03:14:50,640
going to take $650 for them to finish

4696
03:14:50,640 --> 03:14:51,920
and that's what they put in the in the

4697
03:14:51,920 --> 03:14:52,640
pocket. So,

4698
03:14:52,640 --> 03:14:55,920
>> it's roughly 11 $11.35 per square foot

4699
03:14:55,920 --> 03:14:58,000
is what it came down to be.

4700
03:14:58,000 --> 03:14:59,120
>> Okay.

4701
03:14:59,120 --> 03:15:00,960
>> Just a clarification on the price. The

4702
03:15:00,960 --> 03:15:03,279
reason it was you jumped from the 120 to

4703
03:15:03,279 --> 03:15:05,840
1779 contingency 910. No, it's not the

4704
03:15:05,840 --> 03:15:07,200
contingency. It's because this is an

4705
03:15:07,200 --> 03:15:08,720
amendment to the existing agreement and

4706
03:15:08,720 --> 03:15:10,479
the original the original contract price

4707
03:15:10,479 --> 03:15:13,040
was $53,110

4708
03:15:13,040 --> 03:15:15,680
with an amendment of $124

4709
03:15:15,680 --> 03:15:18,800
um800. The 10% contingency does not go

4710
03:15:18,800 --> 03:15:20,800
into the contract. That authorizes the

4711
03:15:20,800 --> 03:15:22,399
manager to make further amendments up to

4712
03:15:22,399 --> 03:15:24,560
that amount. That is how you got to the

4713
03:15:24,560 --> 03:15:27,200
177910.

4714
03:15:27,200 --> 03:15:29,359
>> That's where

4715
03:15:29,359 --> 03:15:31,040
>> because they did they had already done

4716
03:15:31,040 --> 03:15:32,960
the Thank you for reminding me the

4717
03:15:32,960 --> 03:15:34,319
kitchen and the bathrooms. That was the

4718
03:15:34,319 --> 03:15:40,550
original. Yeah.

4719
03:15:40,560 --> 03:15:42,720
» But but am I

4720
03:15:42,720 --> 03:15:44,880
>> Pedro? Are you comfortable with that

4721
03:15:44,880 --> 03:15:47,279
price? And and I don't think I I know

4722
03:15:47,279 --> 03:15:48,960
you said they Yeah, they have a good

4723
03:15:48,960 --> 03:15:50,399
warranty and they've done other work for

4724
03:15:50,399 --> 03:15:52,479
us, but did we get any other proposals?

4725
03:15:52,479 --> 03:15:53,359
>> No, we didn't.

4726
03:15:53,359 --> 03:15:55,359
>> For this particular project, we did not.

4727
03:15:55,359 --> 03:15:57,920
Um, I did get a proposal for a smaller

4728
03:15:57,920 --> 03:16:02,319
project that was $9,000 from them and we

4729
03:16:02,319 --> 03:16:04,000
got a second vendor that was like

4730
03:16:04,000 --> 03:16:06,880
$10,800. So on on smaller projects,

4731
03:16:06,880 --> 03:16:10,479
we've tested them against other vendors,

4732
03:16:10,479 --> 03:16:11,920
>> but at this time for this one, we did

4733
03:16:11,920 --> 03:16:12,319
not.

4734
03:16:12,319 --> 03:16:18,150
>> And the warranty is li

4735
03:16:18,160 --> 03:16:21,520
» I wish we could get lifetime.

4736
03:16:21,520 --> 03:16:22,880
Are you able to negotiate a longer

4737
03:16:22,880 --> 03:16:25,040
maintenance package or like do we have

4738
03:16:25,040 --> 03:16:26,640
anyone in house that can fix epoxy

4739
03:16:26,640 --> 03:16:30,319
flooring if there's a a peel after one

4740
03:16:30,319 --> 03:16:31,840
year all the dancing and the boots and

4741
03:16:31,840 --> 03:16:34,239
the that that pavilion gets used. So I

4742
03:16:34,239 --> 03:16:35,920
mean we need to probably look at a

4743
03:16:35,920 --> 03:16:37,520
maintenance plan.

4744
03:16:37,520 --> 03:16:39,760
>> Oh, wasn't that the finish that was in

4745
03:16:39,760 --> 03:16:42,160
the the original bathroom edition and

4746
03:16:42,160 --> 03:16:44,399
that lasted several years?

4747
03:16:44,399 --> 03:16:45,920
>> Yeah. On on average

4748
03:16:45,920 --> 03:16:48,160
>> that's new now, but that was the prior

4749
03:16:48,160 --> 03:16:48,960
finish.

4750
03:16:48,960 --> 03:16:50,800
>> Yeah. On average, you can get about

4751
03:16:50,800 --> 03:16:53,040
eight to 10 8 to 10 years on on this

4752
03:16:53,040 --> 03:16:55,200
kind of surfacing. It's similar to the

4753
03:16:55,200 --> 03:16:56,640
court surfacing, you know, we put on the

4754
03:16:56,640 --> 03:16:58,160
basketball courts and tennis courts. You

4755
03:16:58,160 --> 03:17:00,640
get anywhere from around seven to 10

4756
03:17:00,640 --> 03:17:01,600
years.

4757
03:17:01,600 --> 03:17:03,200
>> I trust you, Pedro. Thank you.

4758
03:17:03,200 --> 03:17:04,399
>> I'm ready to move on.

4759
03:17:04,399 --> 03:17:07,439
>> All right. Does anybody move this item?

4760
03:17:07,439 --> 03:17:10,640
>> Moved by Cannibal. Second by Aval.

4761
03:17:10,640 --> 03:17:11,040
>> I'm sorry.

4762
03:17:11,040 --> 03:17:13,120
>> The color that uh the brown mix

4763
03:17:13,120 --> 03:17:14,319
>> fire brick, I think. What was it?

4764
03:17:14,319 --> 03:17:15,600
>> Fire brick.

4765
03:17:15,600 --> 03:17:16,399
>> Brickyard.

4766
03:17:16,399 --> 03:17:17,840
It sounds like a great

4767
03:17:17,840 --> 03:17:19,600
restaurant coming soon.

4768
03:17:19,600 --> 03:17:20,160
>> Yeah.

4769
03:17:20,160 --> 03:17:21,600
>> Well, speaking of restaurants, that's

4770
03:17:21,600 --> 03:17:22,960
what they have in the floors at Sak

4771
03:17:22,960 --> 03:17:24,000
Pass.

4772
03:17:24,000 --> 03:17:24,560
>> That's right.

4773
03:17:24,560 --> 03:17:27,200
>> Our new downtown gray sock has that.

4774
03:17:27,200 --> 03:17:28,720
>> They have the same floor.

4775
03:17:28,720 --> 03:17:30,080
>> That's the first thing we noticed when

4776
03:17:30,080 --> 03:17:32,800
we went in. That's the That's the uh

4777
03:17:32,800 --> 03:17:34,080
finish we've been asked to do at

4778
03:17:34,080 --> 03:17:35,840
Harrisfield.

4779
03:17:35,840 --> 03:17:37,680
>> Okay. So, we have a motion and a second

4780
03:17:37,680 --> 03:17:41,200
on tab 23. We'll have a roll call. Madam

4781
03:17:41,200 --> 03:17:42,479
clerk,

4782
03:17:42,479 --> 03:17:44,000
>> Councilman Campbell,

4783
03:17:44,000 --> 03:17:44,640
>> yes.

4784
03:17:44,640 --> 03:17:45,840
>> Councilman Fletcher,

4785
03:17:45,840 --> 03:17:47,600
>> yes. Councilman Ross.

4786
03:17:47,600 --> 03:17:49,040
>> Councilwoman Ksky,

4787
03:17:49,040 --> 03:17:49,680
>> yes.

4788
03:17:49,680 --> 03:17:50,800
>> Councilwoman Abula,

4789
03:17:50,800 --> 03:17:51,200
>> yes.

4790
03:17:51,200 --> 03:17:52,239
>> Vice Mayor Bailey,

4791
03:17:52,239 --> 03:17:52,560
>> yes.

4792
03:17:52,560 --> 03:17:53,439
>> Mayor Losner,

4793
03:17:53,439 --> 03:17:53,760
>> yes.

4794
03:17:53,760 --> 03:17:55,359
>> The motion car.

4795
03:17:55,359 --> 03:17:58,479
>> Okay. So, Mr. Manager, for tabs 24 and

4796
03:17:58,479 --> 03:18:02,160
25, is there anything new or anything

4797
03:18:02,160 --> 03:18:04,560
that needs to be said that was not said

4798
03:18:04,560 --> 03:18:06,560
at our last presentation?

4799
03:18:06,560 --> 03:18:08,560
>> So, Mr. Mayor and Council, there are

4800
03:18:08,560 --> 03:18:11,840
just minor change on the actual

4801
03:18:11,840 --> 03:18:14,640
transportation master plan. The previous

4802
03:18:14,640 --> 03:18:19,520
version had a date of April 2025.

4803
03:18:19,520 --> 03:18:22,319
So in order to reflect, we had a date of

4804
03:18:22,319 --> 03:18:25,439
February 202

4805
03:18:25,439 --> 03:18:27,439
because we approving this today. We

4806
03:18:27,439 --> 03:18:33,110
changed the date to April of 2026.

4807
03:18:33,120 --> 03:18:35,359
And I think also there's a cross-section

4808
03:18:35,359 --> 03:18:39,040
that we had a range of 50 to 80 ft wide.

4809
03:18:39,040 --> 03:18:40,880
We standardize it to make a uniform for

4810
03:18:40,880 --> 03:18:43,279
everybody to be 80 ft. Those are the two

4811
03:18:43,279 --> 03:18:45,200
minor changes.

4812
03:18:45,200 --> 03:18:46,080
>> Mayor Fe.

4813
03:18:46,080 --> 03:18:47,040
>> Yes.

4814
03:18:47,040 --> 03:18:49,359
>> Thank you. Are the um two intersections

4815
03:18:49,359 --> 03:18:52,080
in the Keysgate um district, the one off

4816
03:18:52,080 --> 03:18:56,319
of Kingman and North Gate Road and

4817
03:18:56,319 --> 03:18:59,040
Kingman and uh I think it's Palm.

4818
03:18:59,040 --> 03:19:01,200
>> No, no, those cross sections reference

4819
03:19:01,200 --> 03:19:03,040
arterial roads. Those are not local

4820
03:19:03,040 --> 03:19:05,279
roads. Those ones were trying to widen

4821
03:19:05,279 --> 03:19:06,720
to four lanes.

4822
03:19:06,720 --> 03:19:09,120
>> I'm referring to the um traffic light

4823
03:19:09,120 --> 03:19:11,279
signal improvements. So adding of the

4824
03:19:11,279 --> 03:19:16,640
left turn signals and the the traffic uh reduction or speed

4825
03:19:16,640 --> 03:19:17,920
reduction

4826
03:19:17,920 --> 03:19:18,239
>> um

4827
03:19:18,239 --> 03:19:20,720
>> is that is that your recent ask?

4828
03:19:20,720 --> 03:19:21,040
>> Yes.

4829
03:19:21,040 --> 03:19:23,120
>> I provided you with a response

4830
03:19:23,120 --> 03:19:24,560
>> I didn't see the response yet but is it

4831
03:19:24,560 --> 03:19:26,800
in the plan in our transportation

4832
03:19:26,800 --> 03:19:29,040
>> master transportation master plan? Yeah.

4833
03:19:29,040 --> 03:19:29,840
>> Okay. Thank you.

4834
03:19:29,840 --> 03:19:31,279
>> A couple of those locations are in

4835
03:19:31,279 --> 03:19:32,239
construction already.

4836
03:19:32,239 --> 03:19:33,760
>> Thank you. And for district five my

4837
03:19:33,760 --> 03:19:35,840
district the traffic light at Waterstone

4838
03:19:35,840 --> 03:19:37,600
Boulevard and 137th Avenue. Can you

4839
03:19:37,600 --> 03:19:40,319
speak to that and the efforts please?

4840
03:19:40,319 --> 03:19:41,279
Uh I need to see

4841
03:19:41,279 --> 03:19:42,960
>> in the master plan there's been some

4842
03:19:42,960 --> 03:19:44,160
>> everything that we're doing now that

4843
03:19:44,160 --> 03:19:46,239
we've submitted to the county are all

4844
03:19:46,239 --> 03:19:48,239
extracted from the transportation master

4845
03:19:48,239 --> 03:19:50,880
plan.

4846
03:19:50,880 --> 03:19:53,600
>> Hey okay

4847
03:19:53,600 --> 03:19:55,120
my recollection it was in there the

4848
03:19:55,120 --> 03:19:57,439
waterstone way.

4849
03:19:57,439 --> 03:20:01,190
>> Yeah.

4850
03:20:01,200 --> 03:20:04,399
» Okay. So so we have a motion on

4851
03:20:04,399 --> 03:20:07,520
>> we have a motion to second on tab 24.

4852
03:20:07,520 --> 03:20:09,200
>> Moved by Avala. Second.

4853
03:20:09,200 --> 03:20:11,439
>> Second by Cannibal for adoption of the

4854
03:20:11,439 --> 03:20:13,760
master transportation master plan. Any

4855
03:20:13,760 --> 03:20:14,399
further?

4856
03:20:14,399 --> 03:20:15,520
>> Nope.

4857
03:20:15,520 --> 03:20:17,439
>> Roll call. Have

4858
03:20:17,439 --> 03:20:18,399
>> a

4859
03:20:18,399 --> 03:20:19,520
>> Councilman Cannibal?

4860
03:20:19,520 --> 03:20:19,920
>> Yes.

4861
03:20:19,920 --> 03:20:20,800
>> Councilman Roth?

4862
03:20:20,800 --> 03:20:21,279
>> Yes.

4863
03:20:21,279 --> 03:20:22,319
>> Councilman Fletcher?

4864
03:20:22,319 --> 03:20:22,800
>> Yes.

4865
03:20:22,800 --> 03:20:24,080
>> Councilwoman Ksky?

4866
03:20:24,080 --> 03:20:24,479
>> Yes.

4867
03:20:24,479 --> 03:20:25,600
>> Vice Mayor Bailey?

4868
03:20:25,600 --> 03:20:25,920
>> Yes.

4869
03:20:25,920 --> 03:20:26,800
>> Mayor Osman?

4870
03:20:26,800 --> 03:20:27,120
>> Yes.

4871
03:20:27,120 --> 03:20:28,080
>> The motion carries.

4872
03:20:28,080 --> 03:20:30,319
>> And tab 25. Resolution of the city

4873
03:20:30,319 --> 03:20:31,439
council of the city of Homestead,

4874
03:20:31,439 --> 03:20:33,120
Florida, adopting the city of Homestead

4875
03:20:33,120 --> 03:20:34,720
Water and Sewer Master Plan, providing

4876
03:20:34,720 --> 03:20:36,239
that the water and sewer master plan

4877
03:20:36,239 --> 03:20:37,840
shall serve as policy guide for future

4878
03:20:37,840 --> 03:20:39,840
water and wastewater system planning,

4879
03:20:39,840 --> 03:20:41,359
prioritization, coordination, and

4880
03:20:41,359 --> 03:20:42,800
implementation efforts, providing for

4881
03:20:42,800 --> 03:20:44,000
implementation, providing for an

4882
03:20:44,000 --> 03:20:46,319
effective date.

4883
03:20:46,319 --> 03:20:48,479
>> Have a motion moved by Councilman

4884
03:20:48,479 --> 03:20:50,960
Fletcher, second by Councilman Cannibal.

4885
03:20:50,960 --> 03:20:53,120
There anything further? Seeing none,

4886
03:20:53,120 --> 03:20:54,640
roll call vote. Madam clerk,

4887
03:20:54,640 --> 03:20:55,520
>> Councilman Rob,

4888
03:20:55,520 --> 03:20:58,080
>> yes. Councilwoman Abula. Councilman

4889
03:20:58,080 --> 03:20:58,720
Fletcher.

4890
03:20:58,720 --> 03:20:59,040
>> Yes.

4891
03:20:59,040 --> 03:21:00,160
>> Councilman Calone.

4892
03:21:00,160 --> 03:21:00,560
>> Yes.

4893
03:21:00,560 --> 03:21:02,160
>> Councilwoman Ksky. Yes.

4894
03:21:02,160 --> 03:21:03,439
>> Vice Mayor Bailey. Yes.

4895
03:21:03,439 --> 03:21:04,560
>> Mayor Lawson. Yes.

4896
03:21:04,560 --> 03:21:06,960
>> The motion carries.

4897
03:21:06,960 --> 03:21:09,760
>> Moving on to tab 26.

4898
03:21:09,760 --> 03:21:11,439
>> 26 is a resolution of the city council

4899
03:21:11,439 --> 03:21:12,640
of the city of Homestead, Florida,

4900
03:21:12,640 --> 03:21:14,479
authorizing a city manager to accept the

4901
03:21:14,479 --> 03:21:16,319
grant award from the Florida Department

4902
03:21:16,319 --> 03:21:18,239
of Management Services, executing grant

4903
03:21:18,239 --> 03:21:20,080
agreement and any related documents,

4904
03:21:20,080 --> 03:21:21,439
providing for implementation, providing

4905
03:21:21,439 --> 03:21:24,319
for an effective date.

4906
03:21:24,319 --> 03:21:26,080
It's been moved by councelor Ross,

4907
03:21:26,080 --> 03:21:28,640
seconded by the vice mayor. There's

4908
03:21:28,640 --> 03:21:30,960
nothing further. All in favor? I.

4909
03:21:30,960 --> 03:21:34,479
>> Any opposed? All right, that takes us to

4910
03:21:34,479 --> 03:21:35,279
27.

4911
03:21:35,279 --> 03:21:36,560
>> Seven.

4912
03:21:36,560 --> 03:21:38,160
>> 27 is a resolution of the city council

4913
03:21:38,160 --> 03:21:39,439
of the city of home state of Florida

4914
03:21:39,439 --> 03:21:41,279
approving the settlements of all claims

4915
03:21:41,279 --> 03:21:43,520
made by Elizabeth Collier, providing for

4916
03:21:43,520 --> 03:21:44,800
implementation, providing for an

4917
03:21:44,800 --> 03:21:46,399
effective date.

4918
03:21:46,399 --> 03:21:47,920
>> Moved by the vice mayor.

4919
03:21:47,920 --> 03:21:50,080
>> Second by Councilman Cannibal. Roll

4920
03:21:50,080 --> 03:21:52,640
call. Madam clerk.

4921
03:21:52,640 --> 03:21:53,359
Ross.

4922
03:21:53,359 --> 03:21:53,920
>> Yes.

4923
03:21:53,920 --> 03:21:55,120
>> Councilwoman Abula.

4924
03:21:55,120 --> 03:21:55,439
>> Yes.

4925
03:21:55,439 --> 03:21:56,560
>> Councilman Fletcher.

4926
03:21:56,560 --> 03:21:57,040
>> Yes.

4927
03:21:57,040 --> 03:21:58,399
>> Councilwoman Ksky.

4928
03:21:58,399 --> 03:21:58,720
>> Yes.

4929
03:21:58,720 --> 03:22:00,000
>> Councilman Cannibal.

4930
03:22:00,000 --> 03:22:00,479
>> Yes.

4931
03:22:00,479 --> 03:22:01,520
>> Vice Mayor Bailey.

4932
03:22:01,520 --> 03:22:01,840
>> Yes.

4933
03:22:01,840 --> 03:22:02,800
>> Mayor Losner.

4934
03:22:02,800 --> 03:22:03,120
>> Yes.

4935
03:22:03,120 --> 03:22:04,560
>> The motion carries.

4936
03:22:04,560 --> 03:22:07,200
>> And that should take us to tab.

4937
03:22:07,200 --> 03:22:08,399
>> 287.

4938
03:22:08,399 --> 03:22:08,880
>> 28.

4939
03:22:08,880 --> 03:22:11,359
We're on 28. That was 27 was the

4940
03:22:11,359 --> 03:22:12,160
settlement. We just

4941
03:22:12,160 --> 03:22:14,239
>> settle. All right. So 28. And I

4942
03:22:14,239 --> 03:22:16,800
apologize to anyone who's been here for

4943
03:22:16,800 --> 03:22:18,800
this. I was supposed to move this to the

4944
03:22:18,800 --> 03:22:21,840
front of the agenda. And it's manager's

4945
03:22:21,840 --> 03:22:25,359
fault. He forgot to remind me.

4946
03:22:25,359 --> 03:22:26,880
Where's that bus? I'm going to throw

4947
03:22:26,880 --> 03:22:28,560
you.

4948
03:22:28,560 --> 03:22:30,560
Tab 28.

4949
03:22:30,560 --> 03:22:32,399
The uh water and sewer upgrade.

4950
03:22:32,399 --> 03:22:35,040
>> Tab 28 is a resolution of the mayor and

4951
03:22:35,040 --> 03:22:36,239
city council of the city of Homestead,

4952
03:22:36,239 --> 03:22:37,439
Florida, approving the award of

4953
03:22:37,439 --> 03:22:40,319
invitation to bid number 202614 for the

4954
03:22:40,319 --> 03:22:42,880
Chrome and Flaggler Avenue water and

4955
03:22:42,880 --> 03:22:45,120
sewer upgrade and transit accessibility

4956
03:22:45,120 --> 03:22:47,200
improvements project to Lonzo

4957
03:22:47,200 --> 03:22:49,920
Construction, Inc. in the amount of

4958
03:22:49,920 --> 03:22:54,150
26,782,3378.

4959
03:22:54,160 --> 03:22:55,840
Authorizing the city manager to execute

4960
03:22:55,840 --> 03:22:57,520
an agreement and all related contract

4961
03:22:57,520 --> 03:23:00,239
documents. Subject approval is to form

4962
03:23:00,239 --> 03:23:02,160
legal sufficiency by the city attorney.

4963
03:23:02,160 --> 03:23:04,239
Authorizing city manager to approve

4964
03:23:04,239 --> 03:23:05,840
change orders or increases in the

4965
03:23:05,840 --> 03:23:07,840
contract amount of up to 10% of the

4966
03:23:07,840 --> 03:23:10,399
awarded amount as may be necessary to

4967
03:23:10,399 --> 03:23:12,560
address unforeseen conditions or changes

4968
03:23:12,560 --> 03:23:15,040
required to meet project specifications.

4969
03:23:15,040 --> 03:23:16,720
providing for imple implementation,

4970
03:23:16,720 --> 03:23:19,279
providing for an effective date.

4971
03:23:19,279 --> 03:23:21,040
>> Thank you, Mr. Manager. Are there folks

4972
03:23:21,040 --> 03:23:23,279
here to do a presentation on this item?

4973
03:23:23,279 --> 03:23:25,439
>> Uh, there's no presentation. Uh, you've

4974
03:23:25,439 --> 03:23:27,520
seen this project several times. This is

4975
03:23:27,520 --> 03:23:29,520
one of the signature projects in the

4976
03:23:29,520 --> 03:23:32,479
city's war and sewer master plan. This

4977
03:23:32,479 --> 03:23:34,720
is the major critical infrastructure

4978
03:23:34,720 --> 03:23:37,040
improvement that needs to be done. Uh,

4979
03:23:37,040 --> 03:23:40,239
it will create redundancy citywide. It

4980
03:23:40,239 --> 03:23:43,680
will enlarge and promote uh resiliency.

4981
03:23:43,680 --> 03:23:46,479
We foresee up to 25 to 50 years of life

4982
03:23:46,479 --> 03:23:48,960
and capacity improvements where we have

4983
03:23:48,960 --> 03:23:51,439
existing 12in pipes. We are upsizing to

4984
03:23:51,439 --> 03:23:54,880
24 and 36. Uh that gives us a lot of

4985
03:23:54,880 --> 03:23:57,359
flexibility for new development coming

4986
03:23:57,359 --> 03:24:00,160
up. Uh subsequent to this we are coming

4987
03:24:00,160 --> 03:24:02,720
back with pump station 11 uh the

4988
03:24:02,720 --> 03:24:04,479
pipeline which is the forcemen that is

4989
03:24:04,479 --> 03:24:06,239
going to be put out for bid I believe in

4990
03:24:06,239 --> 03:24:08,239
the middle of next month for pump

4991
03:24:08,239 --> 03:24:10,960
station 11 for the pipe the forcemen

4992
03:24:10,960 --> 03:24:14,239
specific to this. We received five bids

4993
03:24:14,239 --> 03:24:16,640
which is something that is very unusual

4994
03:24:16,640 --> 03:24:19,040
and the prices range from 26 million to

4995
03:24:19,040 --> 03:24:22,239
about $38 million and the lowest

4996
03:24:22,239 --> 03:24:24,479
responsive and responsible bidder was

4997
03:24:24,479 --> 03:24:27,920
Lanzo Construction. Uh madame director

4998
03:24:27,920 --> 03:24:29,439
of procurement is here to take any

4999
03:24:29,439 --> 03:24:31,120
technical questions on the procurement

5000
03:24:31,120 --> 03:24:34,080
process. The lowest bidder was 26. The

5001
03:24:34,080 --> 03:24:37,279
next bidder was 32. So there is a gap of

5002
03:24:37,279 --> 03:24:39,040
$6 million.

5003
03:24:39,040 --> 03:24:40,399
uh we are comfortable with the

5004
03:24:40,399 --> 03:24:42,080
contractor that is being recommended.

5005
03:24:42,080 --> 03:24:47,760
They have a ton of experience doing much much bigger projects than this both

5006
03:24:47,760 --> 03:24:49,680
for immediate county and for Broward

5007
03:24:49,680 --> 03:24:52,319
County and for War and Sewer. Uh we're

5008
03:24:52,319 --> 03:24:54,000
actually surprised to see some of the

5009
03:24:54,000 --> 03:24:56,399
biders because the county is currently

5010
03:24:56,399 --> 03:24:59,200
soliciting for $2 billion worth of War

5011
03:24:59,200 --> 03:25:01,520
and Sewer job that we thought were not

5012
03:25:01,520 --> 03:25:03,520
going to get some credible contractors,

5013
03:25:03,520 --> 03:25:05,680
but we did. All six of them were

5014
03:25:05,680 --> 03:25:08,960
credible contractors and uh I think the

5015
03:25:08,960 --> 03:25:11,359
representatives are here. Uh we giving

5016
03:25:11,359 --> 03:25:14,880
them a tight timeline to finish this job

5017
03:25:14,880 --> 03:25:18,560
by I believe 495 days, a little more

5018
03:25:18,560 --> 03:25:20,479
than a year. Uh we're going to hold

5019
03:25:20,479 --> 03:25:23,279
their feet to fire. I've told a couple

5020
03:25:23,279 --> 03:25:25,120
of them that came to see me earlier that

5021
03:25:25,120 --> 03:25:27,840
listen, the city expects nothing other

5022
03:25:27,840 --> 03:25:30,479
than quality work. Uh, one of the

5023
03:25:30,479 --> 03:25:31,840
initial promises is that they're going

5024
03:25:31,840 --> 03:25:33,760
to establish a local office and they

5025
03:25:33,760 --> 03:25:36,000
hope to hire local residents as part of

5026
03:25:36,000 --> 03:25:37,520
the construction team.

5027
03:25:37,520 --> 03:25:38,239
>> Very good.

5028
03:25:38,239 --> 03:25:40,399
>> Okay.

5029
03:25:40,399 --> 03:25:41,760
>> Thank you, Mr. Manager. All right. Do we

5030
03:25:41,760 --> 03:25:44,160
have a motion to approve Tab 28? Yes,

5031
03:25:44,160 --> 03:25:44,960
Council.

5032
03:25:44,960 --> 03:25:45,920
>> Just real quick, this is one of the

5033
03:25:45,920 --> 03:25:48,239
biggest contracts that I think I've ever

5034
03:25:48,239 --> 03:25:49,920
had to approve. Can you remind us how

5035
03:25:49,920 --> 03:25:51,760
we're paying for it?

5036
03:25:51,760 --> 03:25:53,920
>> So, I have the finance director here.

5037
03:25:53,920 --> 03:25:56,960
Um, I think there are about five funding

5038
03:25:56,960 --> 03:25:59,120
sources for this project. It's not just

5039
03:25:59,120 --> 03:26:03,040
one pro uh funding source. The CRA is

5040
03:26:03,040 --> 03:26:05,439
funding a portion of the cost in the CRA

5041
03:26:05,439 --> 03:26:07,760
area. You have the storm water utility

5042
03:26:07,760 --> 03:26:10,319
fee for those that are drainage. You

5043
03:26:10,319 --> 03:26:12,800
have the public works impact fees. If

5044
03:26:12,800 --> 03:26:14,560
the water and sewer utility system

5045
03:26:14,560 --> 03:26:17,439
revenue note, which was the the money

5046
03:26:17,439 --> 03:26:19,600
that we borrowed, and I believe there

5047
03:26:19,600 --> 03:26:23,760
was a contribution from the state

5048
03:26:23,760 --> 03:26:25,279
last time, the governor gave us $4

5049
03:26:25,279 --> 03:26:28,000
million last December.

5050
03:26:28,000 --> 03:26:30,640
I think Mr. Finance covered it all. Give

5051
03:26:30,640 --> 03:26:31,760
us a number.

5052
03:26:31,760 --> 03:26:34,080
>> There are several funding sources and

5053
03:26:34,080 --> 03:26:35,359
one of the things that's going to be the

5054
03:26:35,359 --> 03:26:38,239
most complex is the schedule value when

5055
03:26:38,239 --> 03:26:41,120
they invoice us is making sure that each

5056
03:26:41,120 --> 03:26:43,520
section is tied to each funding because

5057
03:26:43,520 --> 03:26:46,000
some of these funding are specific to

5058
03:26:46,000 --> 03:26:47,840
certain things in the project. Like one

5059
03:26:47,840 --> 03:26:50,800
of the uh the grants is for sewer only.

5060
03:26:50,800 --> 03:26:53,680
So that means that that money can only

5061
03:26:53,680 --> 03:26:56,399
pay for that portion. the roadway grants

5062
03:26:56,399 --> 03:26:58,160
can only pay for the roadway elements of

5063
03:26:58,160 --> 03:27:01,040
it. So, it's it's very tangly, but it's

5064
03:27:01,040 --> 03:27:02,720
exciting. Like you said, it's one of the

5065
03:27:02,720 --> 03:27:03,920
probably one of the biggest projects

5066
03:27:03,920 --> 03:27:06,239
that we've contracts that we've

5067
03:27:06,239 --> 03:27:07,120
approved.

5068
03:27:07,120 --> 03:27:09,200
>> Got it. So,

5069
03:27:09,200 --> 03:27:11,120
are we borrowing any money?

5070
03:27:11,120 --> 03:27:13,120
>> Yes, we are. If you recall, in December,

5071
03:27:13,120 --> 03:27:16,640
you approved a $12 million loan. Part of

5072
03:27:16,640 --> 03:27:19,040
the funding was for the water and sewer

5073
03:27:19,040 --> 03:27:21,600
improvements on Chrome and Flaggler and

5074
03:27:21,600 --> 03:27:23,840
also like the manager mentioned for pump

5075
03:27:23,840 --> 03:27:25,600
station 11 as well.

5076
03:27:25,600 --> 03:27:28,399
>> And so the the loan was collateralized

5077
03:27:28,399 --> 03:27:30,960
based on future revenue. Is that right?

5078
03:27:30,960 --> 03:27:32,239
>> That's correct.

5079
03:27:32,239 --> 03:27:34,000
>> The debt service was already built into

5080
03:27:34,000 --> 03:27:36,399
the the budget. When you approved the uh

5081
03:27:36,399 --> 03:27:38,560
the loan, we had already accounted for

5082
03:27:38,560 --> 03:27:40,319
what the debt service was going to be.

5083
03:27:40,319 --> 03:27:43,200
>> So in reality, it's not taxpayers aren't

5084
03:27:43,200 --> 03:27:49,279
paying for this. This is grants. It's user fees user fees and grants.

5085
03:27:49,279 --> 03:27:49,760
Correct.

5086
03:27:49,760 --> 03:27:51,200
>> Right. Great. Okay. That's all. Thank

5087
03:27:51,200 --> 03:27:51,920
you.

5088
03:27:51,920 --> 03:27:54,479
>> So I I think I neglected to mention the

5089
03:27:54,479 --> 03:27:57,520
FTA components. We have some MTA FTA

5090
03:27:57,520 --> 03:28:00,399
funds for the transit related

5091
03:28:00,399 --> 03:28:02,960
improvements.

5092
03:28:02,960 --> 03:28:03,840
>> Council.

5093
03:28:03,840 --> 03:28:07,040
>> And is this um from from breaking ground

5094
03:28:07,040 --> 03:28:09,680
to potted plant beginning to end pro?

5095
03:28:09,680 --> 03:28:11,200
This is this price encompasses

5096
03:28:11,200 --> 03:28:15,040
everything. The timeline is what was

5097
03:28:15,040 --> 03:28:17,840
bided on again like everything

5098
03:28:17,840 --> 03:28:19,760
construction that might be unforeseen

5099
03:28:19,760 --> 03:28:20,560
conditions

5100
03:28:20,560 --> 03:28:22,160
>> right but my question is is this pricing

5101
03:28:22,160 --> 03:28:24,800
is this pro this award is for final

5102
03:28:24,800 --> 03:28:25,279
product

5103
03:28:25,279 --> 03:28:27,439
>> oh yes that's what it is again subject

5104
03:28:27,439 --> 03:28:29,120
to unforeseen conditions

5105
03:28:29,120 --> 03:28:30,880
>> from sewer to sunflowers

5106
03:28:30,880 --> 03:28:31,840
>> I was

5107
03:28:31,840 --> 03:28:33,520
>> from sewer to sunflowers

5108
03:28:33,520 --> 03:28:34,720
>> we know what they're going to get fed

5109
03:28:34,720 --> 03:28:36,000
with

5110
03:28:36,000 --> 03:28:37,680
>> I am not going to miss the opportunity

5111
03:28:37,680 --> 03:28:39,520
to move this project

5112
03:28:39,520 --> 03:28:40,239
>> okay

5113
03:28:40,239 --> 03:28:42,960
>> I'm going to move it Okay.

5114
03:28:42,960 --> 03:28:44,800
>> And sorry, I'll check in with a quick

5115
03:28:44,800 --> 03:28:47,279
comment. We have a big job fair tomorrow

5116
03:28:47,279 --> 03:28:50,479
in an effort to make sure that we get

5117
03:28:50,479 --> 03:28:53,439
enough or we get as many of our

5118
03:28:53,439 --> 03:28:55,920
residents to be able to apply. Can we

5119
03:28:55,920 --> 03:28:58,319
help coordinate something similar for

5120
03:28:58,319 --> 03:29:00,720
them when they're ready?

5121
03:29:00,720 --> 03:29:04,080
So, um, we tomorrow, we intend to start

5122
03:29:04,080 --> 03:29:07,200
off with,

5123
03:29:07,200 --> 03:29:09,439
so we start off tomorrow with, uh,

5124
03:29:09,439 --> 03:29:11,680
public outreach meetings with Pioneer

5125
03:29:11,680 --> 03:29:14,560
Village and some businesses in downtown.

5126
03:29:14,560 --> 03:29:17,279
Uh,

5127
03:29:17,279 --> 03:29:19,920
so once the notice to proceed kicks off,

5128
03:29:19,920 --> 03:29:21,520
the contractor will tell us what the

5129
03:29:21,520 --> 03:29:23,439
schedule of values, the construction

5130
03:29:23,439 --> 03:29:26,560
timeline, and what their needs are. Then

5131
03:29:26,560 --> 03:29:28,160
that's the moment that we ask them,

5132
03:29:28,160 --> 03:29:30,880
"What are your job needs for our local

5133
03:29:30,880 --> 03:29:32,319
residents?"

5134
03:29:32,319 --> 03:29:34,080
>> Can we make sure that that's one of the

5135
03:29:34,080 --> 03:29:36,399
items of discussion during these first

5136
03:29:36,399 --> 03:29:38,319
community conversations for people who

5137
03:29:38,319 --> 03:29:41,279
are interested to be able to track,

5138
03:29:41,279 --> 03:29:42,319
>> we'll do that.

5139
03:29:42,319 --> 03:29:43,760
>> Okay.

5140
03:29:43,760 --> 03:29:45,520
>> And that way the contractor wants to get

5141
03:29:45,520 --> 03:29:50,389
an office in your area, your district.

5142
03:29:50,399 --> 03:29:51,520
» Councilman Fleser.

5143
03:29:51,520 --> 03:29:52,880
>> Yes. Thank you. And I want to thank

5144
03:29:52,880 --> 03:29:54,479
Councilman Roth for bringing that up.

5145
03:29:54,479 --> 03:29:57,040
This is the largest contract that I've

5146
03:29:57,040 --> 03:29:58,319
approved since I've been on this

5147
03:29:58,319 --> 03:30:02,800
council. And it's important to note that uh the taxpayers aren't funding

5148
03:30:02,800 --> 03:30:06,640
this in the long run. Um

5149
03:30:06,640 --> 03:30:08,399
for the contractor, I just want you to

5150
03:30:08,399 --> 03:30:11,840
be prepared that we are going to be

5151
03:30:11,840 --> 03:30:14,080
standard bearsers for excellent work and

5152
03:30:14,080 --> 03:30:16,319
timely work.

5153
03:30:16,319 --> 03:30:19,120
So it's uh very important to finish this

5154
03:30:19,120 --> 03:30:21,359
efficiently and with minimal impacts. I

5155
03:30:21,359 --> 03:30:22,880
know we're going to have a lot of

5156
03:30:22,880 --> 03:30:24,239
community impacts. We just make sure

5157
03:30:24,239 --> 03:30:25,760
we're going to educate everybody in

5158
03:30:25,760 --> 03:30:28,560
time. That's all. Thank you.

5159
03:30:28,560 --> 03:30:30,319
>> Yes, time frame is very important to

5160
03:30:30,319 --> 03:30:32,160
some of us.

5161
03:30:32,160 --> 03:30:34,080
All right, so we have a motion and a

5162
03:30:34,080 --> 03:30:36,160
second. So, let's have a roll call vote.

5163
03:30:36,160 --> 03:30:37,680
>> Councilwoman Abilio, yes.

5164
03:30:37,680 --> 03:30:38,880
>> Councilman Roth,

5165
03:30:38,880 --> 03:30:40,000
>> Councilman Cannibal,

5166
03:30:40,000 --> 03:30:40,479
>> yes.

5167
03:30:40,479 --> 03:30:41,600
>> Councilman Fletcher,

5168
03:30:41,600 --> 03:30:42,239
>> yes.

5169
03:30:42,239 --> 03:30:43,840
>> Councilwoman Ksky, yes.

5170
03:30:43,840 --> 03:30:45,200
>> Vice Mayor Bailey, yes.

5171
03:30:45,200 --> 03:30:46,080
>> Mayor Lawson,

5172
03:30:46,080 --> 03:30:46,399
>> yes.

5173
03:30:46,399 --> 03:30:48,239
>> The motion carried.

5174
03:30:48,239 --> 03:30:50,880
>> All right. Before we go to tab 30,

5175
03:30:50,880 --> 03:30:52,560
Councilman Fletcher, would you like to

5176
03:30:52,560 --> 03:30:54,479
extend?

5177
03:30:54,479 --> 03:30:57,359
>> We're motion to move the meeting to 10

5178
03:30:57,359 --> 03:31:00,000
o'clock.

5179
03:31:00,000 --> 03:31:02,800
>> Yeah.

5180
03:31:02,800 --> 03:31:04,399
>> All right. All in favor?

5181
03:31:04,399 --> 03:31:05,600
>> Any opposed?

5182
03:31:05,600 --> 03:31:06,479
>> All right. Go ahead.

5183
03:31:06,479 --> 03:31:07,840
>> Yeah. I just want to take the

5184
03:31:07,840 --> 03:31:09,359
procurement department on this item

5185
03:31:09,359 --> 03:31:14,880
also. This is a very complicated item to approve. So, Malia, thank you very

5186
03:31:14,880 --> 03:31:16,720
much.

5187
03:31:16,720 --> 03:31:18,640
>> Thank you. All

5188
03:31:18,640 --> 03:31:19,680
right, that takes us

5189
03:31:19,680 --> 03:31:21,600
>> and also public works director Kyro

5190
03:31:21,600 --> 03:31:23,439
Kangas. He did a pretty good job on

5191
03:31:23,439 --> 03:31:24,720
this.

5192
03:31:24,720 --> 03:31:27,120
>> Yes.

5193
03:31:27,120 --> 03:31:31,200
>> All right. So, that takes us to tab

5194
03:31:31,200 --> 03:31:34,239
>> 30.

5195
03:31:34,239 --> 03:31:35,920
Sav 30 is the first reading of an

5196
03:31:35,920 --> 03:31:37,520
ordinance of the city of Homestead,

5197
03:31:37,520 --> 03:31:38,960
Florida, amending chapter 2,

5198
03:31:38,960 --> 03:31:40,960
administration, article 8, contracts and

5199
03:31:40,960 --> 03:31:42,720
purchasing of the code of ordinances of

5200
03:31:42,720 --> 03:31:44,560
the city of Homestead to create division

5201
03:31:44,560 --> 03:31:46,800
3 processing of proposals creating

5202
03:31:46,800 --> 03:31:49,279
section 2-293 general provisions

5203
03:31:49,279 --> 03:31:51,439
creating section 2-294.

5204
03:31:51,439 --> 03:31:53,120
Qualifying public private partnership

5205
03:31:53,120 --> 03:31:55,520
proposals creating section 2-295

5206
03:31:55,520 --> 03:31:57,040
unsolicited land proposals for

5207
03:31:57,040 --> 03:31:58,800
city-owned real property establishing a

5208
03:31:58,800 --> 03:32:00,720
procedure for the receipt screening

5209
03:32:00,720 --> 03:32:03,120
evaluation negotiation of qualified

5210
03:32:03,120 --> 03:32:04,880
public private partnership proposals

5211
03:32:04,880 --> 03:32:07,840
consistent with section 255065 Florida

5212
03:32:07,840 --> 03:32:09,279
statutes establishing a separate

5213
03:32:09,279 --> 03:32:10,640
procedure for the receipt screening

5214
03:32:10,640 --> 03:32:13,200
evaluation negotiation of unsolicited

5215
03:32:13,200 --> 03:32:14,800
proposals for the sale lease or ground

5216
03:32:14,800 --> 03:32:16,720
lease redevelopment or other disposition

5217
03:32:16,720 --> 03:32:18,319
of cityown real property interest

5218
03:32:18,319 --> 03:32:20,640
therein codifying application fees for

5219
03:32:20,640 --> 03:32:23,600
each categor ategory proposal subject

5220
03:32:23,600 --> 03:32:26,800
to other applicable governing laws other

5221
03:32:26,800 --> 03:32:28,319
applicable law governing the disposition

5222
03:32:28,319 --> 03:32:30,080
of property providing for codification

5223
03:32:30,080 --> 03:32:31,760
severability conflicts and an effective

5224
03:32:31,760 --> 03:32:33,520
date.

5225
03:32:33,520 --> 03:32:36,160
>> Thank you. All right. So I would imagine

5226
03:32:36,160 --> 03:32:38,080
there are quite a few questions or

5227
03:32:38,080 --> 03:32:40,000
comments on this. So I'll open up the

5228
03:32:40,000 --> 03:32:43,840
floor to council on this item. Um I

5229
03:32:43,840 --> 03:32:45,439
worked with our attorneys and and

5230
03:32:45,439 --> 03:32:47,840
management to bring this forward as a

5231
03:32:47,840 --> 03:32:50,560
reflection of we have nothing in place.

5232
03:32:50,560 --> 03:32:54,640
no guidelines whatsoever really for

5233
03:32:54,640 --> 03:32:58,800
dealing with analyzing processing either

5234
03:32:58,800 --> 03:33:02,319
unsolicited proposals or

5235
03:33:02,319 --> 03:33:05,279
what's generally called a P3

5236
03:33:05,279 --> 03:33:08,800
uh proposal. So this kind of builds in

5237
03:33:08,800 --> 03:33:10,800
some guard rails. Everybody's again

5238
03:33:10,800 --> 03:33:13,359
going back to that policy and procedure

5239
03:33:13,359 --> 03:33:16,960
so that everyone is very clear as to uh

5240
03:33:16,960 --> 03:33:20,160
what the burdens and uh and benefits are

5241
03:33:20,160 --> 03:33:23,200
of uh both the city and a proposer for

5242
03:33:23,200 --> 03:33:26,640
bringing something uh forward. With

5243
03:33:26,640 --> 03:33:29,200
that, I would be happy to hear any uh

5244
03:33:29,200 --> 03:33:32,160
any comments or concerns on the on first

5245
03:33:32,160 --> 03:33:34,960
reading, and there will be opportunity

5246
03:33:34,960 --> 03:33:38,479
to uh to make changes between now and uh

5247
03:33:38,479 --> 03:33:40,800
and second reading. Council Fletcher.

5248
03:33:40,800 --> 03:33:43,439
>> Yes. Thank you. And I think this is uh

5249
03:33:43,439 --> 03:33:45,200
the right time and place to move this

5250
03:33:45,200 --> 03:33:50,479
forward. Uh I'm not really sure if the fees are quite enough, you know,

5251
03:33:50,479 --> 03:33:55,040
based on uh previous inst if if you go

5252
03:33:55,040 --> 03:33:57,680
back to the the offer on the old city

5253
03:33:57,680 --> 03:33:59,439
hall site,

5254
03:33:59,439 --> 03:34:02,800
you know, one time we we spent $110,000

5255
03:34:02,800 --> 03:34:04,800
for consultant,

5256
03:34:04,800 --> 03:34:06,479
you know, over a couple projects, but

5257
03:34:06,479 --> 03:34:08,479
basically that's where it started plus

5258
03:34:08,479 --> 03:34:10,800
staff time. So again, I don't know if

5259
03:34:10,800 --> 03:34:13,279
these fees are actually

5260
03:34:13,279 --> 03:34:16,160
realistic in in ensuring we're we're

5261
03:34:16,160 --> 03:34:24,080
covering those costs. Um I'm open to my colleagues uh

5262
03:34:24,080 --> 03:34:26,399
information, but it's just uh it's

5263
03:34:26,399 --> 03:34:28,800
something that needs to be done and I

5264
03:34:28,800 --> 03:34:30,640
just think the fee structure should be a

5265
03:34:30,640 --> 03:34:31,920
little higher.

5266
03:34:31,920 --> 03:34:33,840
Certainly historically we could go back

5267
03:34:33,840 --> 03:34:37,120
to that the city hall process the

5268
03:34:37,120 --> 03:34:39,279
original shotgun process with Mr.

5269
03:34:39,279 --> 03:34:42,960
Sweezy's entity and some of the original

5270
03:34:42,960 --> 03:34:45,920
even minority builders and the original

5271
03:34:45,920 --> 03:34:50,080
uh triangle proposal.

5272
03:34:50,080 --> 03:34:52,080
If if we could get those it could tell

5273
03:34:52,080 --> 03:34:55,680
us whether we're in the ballpark of

5274
03:34:55,680 --> 03:34:59,840
uh reasonable fees.

5275
03:34:59,840 --> 03:35:01,840
So, if we could we could receive those

5276
03:35:01,840 --> 03:35:04,080
between now and second reading and any

5277
03:35:04,080 --> 03:35:05,200
others you could think of.

5278
03:35:05,200 --> 03:35:06,479
>> Yeah. And have we have we looked at

5279
03:35:06,479 --> 03:35:08,399
other municipalities to ensure maybe

5280
03:35:08,399 --> 03:35:10,000
this is in line with what they do?

5281
03:35:10,000 --> 03:35:13,680
>> We did. Um and there, you know, $25,000

5282
03:35:13,680 --> 03:35:14,960
as as a flat fee just for the

5283
03:35:14,960 --> 03:35:17,680
application. There's there's a process

5284
03:35:17,680 --> 03:35:19,760
built in where if they you find your

5285
03:35:19,760 --> 03:35:22,000
actual costs are exceeding that you can

5286
03:35:22,000 --> 03:35:24,319
go back and seek additional funds and

5287
03:35:24,319 --> 03:35:26,640
they in a P3 context they have to submit

5288
03:35:26,640 --> 03:35:28,880
within 30 days and you don't have to do

5289
03:35:28,880 --> 03:35:31,200
any work if they don't submit the

5290
03:35:31,200 --> 03:35:33,520
additional funds. You can drop it and

5291
03:35:33,520 --> 03:35:35,920
not take on your your dollars. If you'd

5292
03:35:35,920 --> 03:35:39,040
like to look um at additional things,

5293
03:35:39,040 --> 03:35:40,399
you know, you can have an application

5294
03:35:40,399 --> 03:35:42,960
fee plus, you know, an additional escrow

5295
03:35:42,960 --> 03:35:44,319
if that's something you're interested in

5296
03:35:44,319 --> 03:35:46,239
seeing, which would be drawn down on and

5297
03:35:46,239 --> 03:35:49,520
maybe a you akin to a cost recovery

5298
03:35:49,520 --> 03:35:52,399
account to account for the actual costs.

5299
03:35:52,399 --> 03:35:55,439
The fee is your your money on a P in a

5300
03:35:55,439 --> 03:35:57,760
P3 context. If you proceed, it's a fee.

5301
03:35:57,760 --> 03:35:59,439
It's yours.

5302
03:35:59,439 --> 03:36:02,560
um unless you choose not to pursue it at

5303
03:36:02,560 --> 03:36:04,560
all in which case and by statute it goes

5304
03:36:04,560 --> 03:36:08,960
back to them whereas an escrow amount

5305
03:36:08,960 --> 03:36:11,439
would just be drawn down on actual costs

5306
03:36:11,439 --> 03:36:14,239
and you could determine that. So I I'm

5307
03:36:14,239 --> 03:36:16,560
open there there's

5308
03:36:16,560 --> 03:36:20,160
a array of options this is the simplest

5309
03:36:20,160 --> 03:36:22,800
and if you know there's two separate fee

5310
03:36:22,800 --> 03:36:24,720
structures that are broken out. One is

5311
03:36:24,720 --> 03:36:26,880
for the P3 which is not what you have

5312
03:36:26,880 --> 03:36:29,279
traditionally seen which deals with a

5313
03:36:29,279 --> 03:36:32,399
qualifying public project. What we have

5314
03:36:32,399 --> 03:36:34,880
traditionally seen here is uh land

5315
03:36:34,880 --> 03:36:37,760
proposals for either long-term leases or

5316
03:36:37,760 --> 03:36:39,680
acquisitions and that's where the city

5317
03:36:39,680 --> 03:36:41,840
has incurred its costs over the years

5318
03:36:41,840 --> 03:36:45,680
and in those types of deals and

5319
03:36:45,680 --> 03:36:47,120
trying to contemplate what that looks

5320
03:36:47,120 --> 03:36:48,960
like. We have a again there's a

5321
03:36:48,960 --> 03:36:50,160
spectrum. You can have somebody who

5322
03:36:50,160 --> 03:36:52,720
wants a single family lot or may we may

5323
03:36:52,720 --> 03:36:58,640
want to do a an appraisal before we sell it, but that's not going

5324
03:36:58,640 --> 03:37:00,319
to be an exorbitant amount of money

5325
03:37:00,319 --> 03:37:02,560
versus somebody who wants the old city

5326
03:37:02,560 --> 03:37:05,520
hall site or, you know, mitigation

5327
03:37:05,520 --> 03:37:07,439
property, whatever that may be. And so

5328
03:37:07,439 --> 03:37:09,359
we did for the land acquisition a

5329
03:37:09,359 --> 03:37:12,399
graduated scale to account for the the

5330
03:37:12,399 --> 03:37:15,279
anticipated costs. And again, in that

5331
03:37:15,279 --> 03:37:17,040
section, there's also a reservation to

5332
03:37:17,040 --> 03:37:18,560
go back to them and seek additional

5333
03:37:18,560 --> 03:37:20,399
funds. But I'm happy to make any changes

5334
03:37:20,399 --> 03:37:22,399
that you want and bring back any

5335
03:37:22,399 --> 03:37:24,479
information you want for a second read.

5336
03:37:24,479 --> 03:37:26,319
>> So I was going to say exactly that, but

5337
03:37:26,319 --> 03:37:28,080
that's why I asked the question. Okay.

5338
03:37:28,080 --> 03:37:30,800
Uh but here there again I don't I'm open

5339
03:37:30,800 --> 03:37:32,720
to my colleague suggestions, but I I

5340
03:37:32,720 --> 03:37:34,080
just I'm not sure about the fee

5341
03:37:34,080 --> 03:37:34,640
structure.

5342
03:37:34,640 --> 03:37:36,560
>> Well, and that's I think the basic of

5343
03:37:36,560 --> 03:37:38,479
the provisions in here are built in to

5344
03:37:38,479 --> 03:37:41,359
go back and ask for more.

5345
03:37:41,359 --> 03:37:42,800
>> Certainly were covered.

5346
03:37:42,800 --> 03:37:45,840
>> Yes. But and if they refuse to do so,

5347
03:37:45,840 --> 03:37:47,680
then

5348
03:37:47,680 --> 03:37:50,950
>> goodbye.

5349
03:37:50,960 --> 03:37:53,520
Okay. And certainly there's there's time

5350
03:37:53,520 --> 03:37:55,279
to massage this in each of your minds

5351
03:37:55,279 --> 03:38:05,040
with with the attorney between now and then and and uh you know tee up some amendments, but at least uh get

5352
03:38:05,040 --> 03:38:06,720
moving from where we had nothing in

5353
03:38:06,720 --> 03:38:08,960
place before. Vice Mayor,

5354
03:38:08,960 --> 03:38:10,720
>> did you Oh, you're good.

5355
03:38:10,720 --> 03:38:11,600
>> Just real quick.

5356
03:38:11,600 --> 03:38:13,680
>> Yeah. Um,

5357
03:38:13,680 --> 03:38:16,560
what it a workshop?

5358
03:38:16,560 --> 03:38:19,200
I think based on what I'm hearing, what

5359
03:38:19,200 --> 03:38:22,239
Matt just said, I got lost.

5360
03:38:22,239 --> 03:38:22,640
>> So,

5361
03:38:22,640 --> 03:38:23,279
>> I'm sorry.

5362
03:38:23,279 --> 03:38:25,040
>> I understand what Fletch what Councilman

5363
03:38:25,040 --> 03:38:26,800
Fletcher is saying and then I understand

5364
03:38:26,800 --> 03:38:27,520
what you're saying. There's

5365
03:38:27,520 --> 03:38:29,520
contingencies built into it to protect

5366
03:38:29,520 --> 03:38:31,520
us for additional fees.

5367
03:38:31,520 --> 03:38:32,640
>> Yes.

5368
03:38:32,640 --> 03:38:35,760
>> Um, but I still think

5369
03:38:35,760 --> 03:38:37,520
we could work on this a little bit more.

5370
03:38:37,520 --> 03:38:39,680
Well, we could we adopt it and not have

5371
03:38:39,680 --> 03:38:41,120
a second reading until after we have a

5372
03:38:41,120 --> 03:38:41,920
workshop.

5373
03:38:41,920 --> 03:38:43,439
>> Or we can have a workshop between in

5374
03:38:43,439 --> 03:38:43,920
between

5375
03:38:43,920 --> 03:38:45,359
>> between first and second.

5376
03:38:45,359 --> 03:38:45,840
>> Certainly.

5377
03:38:45,840 --> 03:38:46,479
>> That's fine.

5378
03:38:46,479 --> 03:38:47,680
>> Right.

5379
03:38:47,680 --> 03:38:49,279
>> Yes, Vice Mayor.

5380
03:38:49,279 --> 03:38:51,120
>> And then I think what would make me

5381
03:38:51,120 --> 03:38:53,120
understand things a little clearer as

5382
03:38:53,120 --> 03:38:55,200
well. Um what I was trying to think of

5383
03:38:55,200 --> 03:39:00,160
is what are the last few deals or

5384
03:39:00,160 --> 03:39:02,239
things the city was considering that

5385
03:39:02,239 --> 03:39:04,640
this would have fallen in place with?

5386
03:39:04,640 --> 03:39:06,800
not to say now but to talk about during

5387
03:39:06,800 --> 03:39:09,200
the workshop is to give us some examples

5388
03:39:09,200 --> 03:39:11,840
of of how things would have looked with

5389
03:39:11,840 --> 03:39:12,640
some last

5390
03:39:12,640 --> 03:39:14,399
>> and at the workshop we can we come up

5391
03:39:14,399 --> 03:39:16,479
with clearly obvious and then there's

5392
03:39:16,479 --> 03:39:17,439
going to be some that

5393
03:39:17,439 --> 03:39:19,920
>> wow where did that come from

5394
03:39:19,920 --> 03:39:24,239
>> I okay so I I would ask that we you know

5395
03:39:24,239 --> 03:39:26,479
pass it at first reading subject to a

5396
03:39:26,479 --> 03:39:29,439
workshop prior to second reading

5397
03:39:29,439 --> 03:39:31,520
>> okay all right so moved with that

5398
03:39:31,520 --> 03:39:33,600
condition by Councilman Fletcher second

5399
03:39:33,600 --> 03:39:35,520
by Councilman Councilman Roth. Any

5400
03:39:35,520 --> 03:39:37,840
further? Okay, let's have a roll call

5401
03:39:37,840 --> 03:39:39,680
vote on that item.

5402
03:39:39,680 --> 03:39:41,920
>> Councilwoman Ksky,

5403
03:39:41,920 --> 03:39:43,760
>> Council Councilman Fletcher,

5404
03:39:43,760 --> 03:39:44,160
>> yes.

5405
03:39:44,160 --> 03:39:45,040
>> Councilman Roth,

5406
03:39:45,040 --> 03:39:45,760
>> yes.

5407
03:39:45,760 --> 03:39:46,800
>> Councilman Cannibal,

5408
03:39:46,800 --> 03:39:47,120
>> yes.

5409
03:39:47,120 --> 03:39:48,800
>> Councilwoman Abula.

5410
03:39:48,800 --> 03:39:49,920
>> Vice Mayor Bailey,

5411
03:39:49,920 --> 03:39:50,239
>> yes.

5412
03:39:50,239 --> 03:39:51,200
>> Mayor Losner,

5413
03:39:51,200 --> 03:39:51,520
>> yes.

5414
03:39:51,520 --> 03:39:53,359
>> The motion.

5415
03:39:53,359 --> 03:39:55,840
>> Okay.

5416
03:39:55,840 --> 03:39:57,840
>> Uh, tab 31. 31

5417
03:39:57,840 --> 03:39:59,520
>> is the second reading of an ordinance of

5418
03:39:59,520 --> 03:40:01,040
the city of Homestead, Florida, amending

5419
03:40:01,040 --> 03:40:02,640
the city code of ordinances by amending

5420
03:40:02,640 --> 03:40:04,479
chapter 30 zoning, article 4,

5421
03:40:04,479 --> 03:40:06,640
supplemental district regulations,

5422
03:40:06,640 --> 03:40:08,160
division 2, off streetet parking to

5423
03:40:08,160 --> 03:40:10,160
modify regulations and standards related

5424
03:40:10,160 --> 03:40:11,840
to the temporary parking of boats and

5425
03:40:11,840 --> 03:40:13,120
further establishing regulations

5426
03:40:13,120 --> 03:40:14,720
concerning parking within private rights

5427
03:40:14,720 --> 03:40:16,399
of way permitted within private

5428
03:40:16,399 --> 03:40:18,319
residential developments, providing for

5429
03:40:18,319 --> 03:40:19,840
severability, providing for inclusion in

5430
03:40:19,840 --> 03:40:21,200
the code, providing for conflicts and

5431
03:40:21,200 --> 03:40:23,040
providing for an effective date.

5432
03:40:23,040 --> 03:40:28,870
>> Another workshop

5433
03:40:28,880 --> 03:40:32,160
Thank you. Um, thank you, Matt. And, um,

5434
03:40:32,160 --> 03:40:35,439
I I do believe that staff um, circulated

5435
03:40:35,439 --> 03:40:37,760
another letter of support to accompany

5436
03:40:37,760 --> 03:40:41,520
this agenda item from a leader, a CDD

5437
03:40:41,520 --> 03:40:44,479
board member in Waterstone community.

5438
03:40:44,479 --> 03:40:47,439
Um, you know, this ordinance does not

5439
03:40:47,439 --> 03:40:51,040
expand parking or boat storage. It just

5440
03:40:51,040 --> 03:40:55,359
clarifies who governs it and within a

5441
03:40:55,359 --> 03:40:58,000
private community that authority should

5442
03:40:58,000 --> 03:41:00,319
belong to the HOA that the residents

5443
03:41:00,319 --> 03:41:03,439
already agreed to live and uh and to

5444
03:41:03,439 --> 03:41:12,239
live under the rules. Uh the the fact that there

5445
03:41:12,239 --> 03:41:14,479
are differences within association

5446
03:41:14,479 --> 03:41:16,000
communities and nonassociation

5447
03:41:16,000 --> 03:41:19,439
communities is not uh a foreign concept.

5448
03:41:19,439 --> 03:41:22,000
Today we already live under different

5449
03:41:22,000 --> 03:41:24,399
rules and regulations that other areas

5450
03:41:24,399 --> 03:41:26,880
in the cities don't have to comply to.

5451
03:41:26,880 --> 03:41:30,080
And even within our zoning and with our

5452
03:41:30,080 --> 03:41:32,720
uh our code, there are different

5453
03:41:32,720 --> 03:41:36,160
guidelines that um that affect uh

5454
03:41:36,160 --> 03:41:38,080
different developments. For example, in

5455
03:41:38,080 --> 03:41:41,200
the TMU or in the PUD POD developments,

5456
03:41:41,200 --> 03:41:43,120
there's different architectural uh

5457
03:41:43,120 --> 03:41:45,359
guidelines in the P pioneer district

5458
03:41:45,359 --> 03:41:47,600
within our downtown. There's different

5459
03:41:47,600 --> 03:41:50,399
uh distinguish uh this items that are

5460
03:41:50,399 --> 03:41:52,720
distinguished. So, so it's not a foreign

5461
03:41:52,720 --> 03:41:54,560
concept that depending on where you are

5462
03:41:54,560 --> 03:41:57,040
in the city, different um different

5463
03:41:57,040 --> 03:41:59,040
codes or different rules would apply.

5464
03:41:59,040 --> 03:42:00,800
Um, additionally, I want you all to

5465
03:42:00,800 --> 03:42:05,040
consider that associations are a tool to

5466
03:42:05,040 --> 03:42:07,680
work alongside with for the city. Uh,

5467
03:42:07,680 --> 03:42:10,560
use the associations as a mean to echo

5468
03:42:10,560 --> 03:42:13,439
the message. Um, you know, recently I

5469
03:42:13,439 --> 03:42:14,800
started getting a lot of phone calls

5470
03:42:14,800 --> 03:42:16,399
about, oh my gosh, code enforcement's

5471
03:42:16,399 --> 03:42:20,000
going doortodoor knocking on on doors to

5472
03:42:20,000 --> 03:42:21,359
uh promote the messaging about

5473
03:42:21,359 --> 03:42:23,840
recycling. We we need to promote better

5474
03:42:23,840 --> 03:42:26,239
recycling efforts, but there's like a

5475
03:42:26,239 --> 03:42:28,479
really strong boundary about soliciting

5476
03:42:28,479 --> 03:42:30,000
inside gated communities. It's not

5477
03:42:30,000 --> 03:42:33,200
received well. So, use the associations

5478
03:42:33,200 --> 03:42:37,439
to broad broaden your message and and uh

5479
03:42:37,439 --> 03:42:38,640
send out they could send out

5480
03:42:38,640 --> 03:42:40,800
newsletters. they can help you promote

5481
03:42:40,800 --> 03:42:43,279
um the the importance of recycling,

5482
03:42:43,279 --> 03:42:44,720
things like that. The same thing goes

5483
03:42:44,720 --> 03:42:47,200
with parking and boat storage. These

5484
03:42:47,200 --> 03:42:49,439
rules and regulations that residents are

5485
03:42:49,439 --> 03:42:53,120
already living to for various years, uh

5486
03:42:53,120 --> 03:42:56,160
20 20 30 years in our community, it's

5487
03:42:56,160 --> 03:42:58,720
already been a proven concept that

5488
03:42:58,720 --> 03:43:00,399
things are under control and there

5489
03:43:00,399 --> 03:43:03,359
aren't any challenges. And um this

5490
03:43:03,359 --> 03:43:06,080
ordinance simply just surgically and

5491
03:43:06,080 --> 03:43:08,960
precisely clarifies who is governing

5492
03:43:08,960 --> 03:43:11,279
those and regulating those two specific

5493
03:43:11,279 --> 03:43:13,040
items. There's been a lot of talk

5494
03:43:13,040 --> 03:43:18,800
tonight about code revisions and um in other meetings we talked about it

5495
03:43:18,800 --> 03:43:21,279
would cost $250,000 to do a code

5496
03:43:21,279 --> 03:43:23,279
rewrite. We've been talking about it for

5497
03:43:23,279 --> 03:43:25,680
many years and I still promote that we

5498
03:43:25,680 --> 03:43:28,080
should fix our code comprehensively. But

5499
03:43:28,080 --> 03:43:31,600
until then, we should look at the areas

5500
03:43:31,600 --> 03:43:33,760
within our community that need to have

5501
03:43:33,760 --> 03:43:36,880
special attention. And I um respectfully

5502
03:43:36,880 --> 03:43:39,359
ask for your your vote and support

5503
03:43:39,359 --> 03:43:40,960
tonight and to trust that the

5504
03:43:40,960 --> 03:43:45,120
associations are going to continue to do

5505
03:43:45,120 --> 03:43:48,640
a great job with enforcing park and uh

5506
03:43:48,640 --> 03:43:50,560
parking and boating storage within their

5507
03:43:50,560 --> 03:43:52,960
communities responsibly, which would

5508
03:43:52,960 --> 03:43:56,800
ultimately allow for code enforcement to

5509
03:43:56,800 --> 03:43:58,560
relieve themselves from the requirement

5510
03:43:58,560 --> 03:44:01,680
of having to focus on those items and to

5511
03:44:01,680 --> 03:44:04,479
do other more important work in our

5512
03:44:04,479 --> 03:44:05,279
communities.

5513
03:44:05,279 --> 03:44:08,479
So, I'll rest with that. Thank you,

5514
03:44:08,479 --> 03:44:11,750
>> council.

5515
03:44:11,760 --> 03:44:12,880
» Yes, vice mayor.

5516
03:44:12,880 --> 03:44:16,000
>> Thank you, Mayor.

5517
03:44:16,000 --> 03:44:18,319
I think it could go either way. You

5518
03:44:18,319 --> 03:44:20,479
know, it will

5519
03:44:20,479 --> 03:44:22,319
Well, one question for staff. Are there

5520
03:44:22,319 --> 03:44:25,760
any areas in the city where boats are

5521
03:44:25,760 --> 03:44:28,880
able to be stored in front of the homes

5522
03:44:28,880 --> 03:44:31,840
indefinitely?

5523
03:44:31,840 --> 03:44:32,800
>> No.

5524
03:44:32,800 --> 03:44:41,750
acre lots? No, no, no. So,

5525
03:44:41,760 --> 03:44:45,520
is there also conversation about setting

5526
03:44:45,520 --> 03:44:48,239
a standard across the board for all

5527
03:44:48,239 --> 03:44:51,279
areas and the time frame allowed or

5528
03:44:51,279 --> 03:44:53,840
you're saying to to let each HOA

5529
03:44:53,840 --> 03:44:57,199
determine how long their residents are

5530
03:44:57,199 --> 03:44:58,720
able to

5531
03:44:58,720 --> 03:45:01,359
>> Right. So ex current day the the the

5532
03:45:01,359 --> 03:45:03,359
rules and regulations regarding parking

5533
03:45:03,359 --> 03:45:05,439
and boat enforcement within HOAs, it

5534
03:45:05,439 --> 03:45:08,160
already exists. So what I'm saying is to

5535
03:45:08,160 --> 03:45:10,880
allow that standard be whatever that

5536
03:45:10,880 --> 03:45:13,040
standard is. So the the actual verbiage

5537
03:45:13,040 --> 03:45:14,800
and the code that's adjusting is just

5538
03:45:14,800 --> 03:45:17,040
clarifying that those two items would be

5539
03:45:17,040 --> 03:45:18,960
governed by the HOA. It's not setting

5540
03:45:18,960 --> 03:45:20,720
the time limit. It's not setting the

5541
03:45:20,720 --> 03:45:26,560
storage um front or back. The reason is that some properties have larger lots

5542
03:45:26,560 --> 03:45:28,000
where you can store a recreational

5543
03:45:28,000 --> 03:45:32,239
vehicle in the yard, but 90% are not and

5544
03:45:32,239 --> 03:45:34,399
the HOA rules typically don't allow it.

5545
03:45:34,399 --> 03:45:36,239
So, there is no perpetual boat parking

5546
03:45:36,239 --> 03:45:38,239
in front of a home that I'm aware of.

5547
03:45:38,239 --> 03:45:41,199
Um, it's in the example that Councilman

5548
03:45:41,199 --> 03:45:43,680
Fletcher gave in our last reading, um,

5549
03:45:43,680 --> 03:45:45,600
is that in the Keysgate community, it

5550
03:45:45,600 --> 03:45:47,920
allows for three days. Once those three

5551
03:45:47,920 --> 03:45:49,840
days are over, you got to have your boat

5552
03:45:49,840 --> 03:45:51,520
off your property. That's one one

5553
03:45:51,520 --> 03:45:55,040
example. association that example which

5554
03:45:55,040 --> 03:45:57,520
people have merily lived under for many

5555
03:45:57,520 --> 03:45:59,600
for 30 years now in the eastgate

5556
03:45:59,600 --> 03:46:01,199
community is a direct violation of the

5557
03:46:01,199 --> 03:46:03,840
current code and so while I do agree

5558
03:46:03,840 --> 03:46:06,239
that perhaps there for the benefit of

5559
03:46:06,239 --> 03:46:08,000
the southwest and the northwest which I

5560
03:46:08,000 --> 03:46:09,439
was speaking to some of the southwest

5561
03:46:09,439 --> 03:46:12,239
residents earlier today and that's kind

5562
03:46:12,239 --> 03:46:14,880
of the discussion is while we do move

5563
03:46:14,880 --> 03:46:17,760
forward and make these precise changes

5564
03:46:17,760 --> 03:46:20,160
in some districts or some areas let's

5565
03:46:20,160 --> 03:46:21,840
not forget and take an opportunity to

5566
03:46:21,840 --> 03:46:23,680
maybe look at where else we have to

5567
03:46:23,680 --> 03:46:26,720
provide relief whether it's a whether it

5568
03:46:26,720 --> 03:46:29,600
is bark boat and uh boat storage maybe

5569
03:46:29,600 --> 03:46:31,439
instead of two hours you allow 12 hours

5570
03:46:31,439 --> 03:46:33,760
so that you can clean your boat you know

5571
03:46:33,760 --> 03:46:36,000
but that would be again another a change

5572
03:46:36,000 --> 03:46:38,560
that we could always bring back on a on

5573
03:46:38,560 --> 03:46:41,120
a larger area but for parking

5574
03:46:41,120 --> 03:46:43,040
enforcement another example some

5575
03:46:43,040 --> 03:46:46,080
communities the roads are larger so they

5576
03:46:46,080 --> 03:46:49,040
allow you to park on the street

5577
03:46:49,040 --> 03:46:52,000
in smaller roadway communities They

5578
03:46:52,000 --> 03:46:53,199
don't want you to park on the street

5579
03:46:53,199 --> 03:46:56,560
because they don't want you to obstruct

5580
03:46:56,560 --> 03:46:58,800
uh emergency vehicles and garbage

5581
03:46:58,800 --> 03:47:01,439
vehicles. So, they promote you to park

5582
03:47:01,439 --> 03:47:04,399
in your in your driveway. And addition

5583
03:47:04,399 --> 03:47:07,520
to all of that, these roads, these

5584
03:47:07,520 --> 03:47:10,720
sidewalks, the the communities of these

5585
03:47:10,720 --> 03:47:13,199
that falls under this ordinance are

5586
03:47:13,199 --> 03:47:15,520
privately maintained. They're filling

5587
03:47:15,520 --> 03:47:17,600
their own potholes. They're paving their

5588
03:47:17,600 --> 03:47:20,160
own roadways. they're fixing their own

5589
03:47:20,160 --> 03:47:22,239
sidewalks when the root systems are

5590
03:47:22,239 --> 03:47:24,319
lifting up the the you know creating

5591
03:47:24,319 --> 03:47:27,520
that um uneven sidewalk.

5592
03:47:27,520 --> 03:47:29,439
So in the perspective of the association

5593
03:47:29,439 --> 03:47:31,120
it does come as a surprise that this is

5594
03:47:31,120 --> 03:47:35,600
even um contrary in the code. So again

5595
03:47:35,600 --> 03:47:37,359
it's just clarifying and making a

5596
03:47:37,359 --> 03:47:38,720
correction that probably should have

5597
03:47:38,720 --> 03:47:40,160
already existed when the pud was

5598
03:47:40,160 --> 03:47:43,199
created. So call it a housekeeping

5599
03:47:43,199 --> 03:47:46,560
measure. It is um it's not a foreign

5600
03:47:46,560 --> 03:47:49,120
concept that associations have different

5601
03:47:49,120 --> 03:47:50,800
rules and regulations and this is

5602
03:47:50,800 --> 03:47:52,479
something that the city doesn't have to

5603
03:47:52,479 --> 03:47:54,880
burden themselves with identifying and

5604
03:47:54,880 --> 03:47:56,880
curing.

5605
03:47:56,880 --> 03:48:00,239
>> I think besides the comment made at the

5606
03:48:00,239 --> 03:48:01,840
last meeting that sometimes the garbage

5607
03:48:01,840 --> 03:48:04,399
trucks couldn't get through. I think in

5608
03:48:04,399 --> 03:48:06,239
the end that should have been set up

5609
03:48:06,239 --> 03:48:07,680
from the beginning if that's the way

5610
03:48:07,680 --> 03:48:09,279
things have been for the last 30 years

5611
03:48:09,279 --> 03:48:12,239
there and it's working um at least most

5612
03:48:12,239 --> 03:48:14,399
of the time relatively well leave it as

5613
03:48:14,399 --> 03:48:19,590
is.

5614
03:48:19,600 --> 03:48:21,680
This this um this ordinance just

5615
03:48:21,680 --> 03:48:24,239
clarifies that the

5616
03:48:24,239 --> 03:48:27,279
responsibility of the city

5617
03:48:27,279 --> 03:48:31,279
isn't to go in there and and find people

5618
03:48:31,279 --> 03:48:33,040
if they're parking in their parking

5619
03:48:33,040 --> 03:48:35,439
spaces or if they're boat is out for

5620
03:48:35,439 --> 03:48:38,479
more than two hours. And when without

5621
03:48:38,479 --> 03:48:41,040
this code being changed, all the

5622
03:48:41,040 --> 03:48:43,279
associations are basically operating in

5623
03:48:43,279 --> 03:48:46,000
conflict to the code. So with that, I'll

5624
03:48:46,000 --> 03:48:48,479
make a motion to approve my code

5625
03:48:48,479 --> 03:48:50,960
amendment. Thank you.

5626
03:48:50,960 --> 03:48:53,040
>> Question, Mr. Mayor.

5627
03:48:53,040 --> 03:48:54,160
>> Council Fletcher.

5628
03:48:54,160 --> 03:48:56,479
>> Yes, thank you. So, right now this is

5629
03:48:56,479 --> 03:48:59,760
very singular, you know, right to boats.

5630
03:48:59,760 --> 03:49:02,000
It doesn't really address other

5631
03:49:02,000 --> 03:49:05,120
vehicles, recreational vehicles, motor

5632
03:49:05,120 --> 03:49:08,720
homes, uh, which can also be an issue.

5633
03:49:08,720 --> 03:49:11,760
Uh, and and most homeowners associations

5634
03:49:11,760 --> 03:49:14,160
have restrictions on those being in in

5635
03:49:14,160 --> 03:49:16,560
there for a period of time as well. Why

5636
03:49:16,560 --> 03:49:20,080
are we just identifying boats?

5637
03:49:20,080 --> 03:49:21,760
How many of these have actually occurred

5638
03:49:21,760 --> 03:49:25,279
where the cities actually went out and gave

5639
03:49:25,279 --> 03:49:28,800
citations? And I understand you're

5640
03:49:28,800 --> 03:49:31,600
wanting to give the HOAs the And look, I

5641
03:49:31,600 --> 03:49:34,479
I've seen the letters. I've talked to my

5642
03:49:34,479 --> 03:49:37,439
residents as well, but what happens on

5643
03:49:37,439 --> 03:49:40,479
the fifth day or the sixth day? The HOA

5644
03:49:40,479 --> 03:49:42,080
is doing they're doing their fines and

5645
03:49:42,080 --> 03:49:44,160
whatever, but the boat's still there.

5646
03:49:44,160 --> 03:49:46,560
the seventh day. You know, it there at

5647
03:49:46,560 --> 03:49:48,000
some point the city's going to have to

5648
03:49:48,000 --> 03:49:49,920
come in and and say something at some

5649
03:49:49,920 --> 03:49:52,399
point. I would say,

5650
03:49:52,399 --> 03:49:54,640
do other cities have anything similar to

5651
03:49:54,640 --> 03:49:58,880
this or are we creating something new?

5652
03:49:58,880 --> 03:50:01,279
>> None of the cities in South Florida in

5653
03:50:01,279 --> 03:50:03,120
Dade County that I pulled or in the

5654
03:50:03,120 --> 03:50:04,720
county have anything. I'm not I'm not

5655
03:50:04,720 --> 03:50:06,880
against being a trends setter and moving

5656
03:50:06,880 --> 03:50:08,319
forward, but

5657
03:50:08,319 --> 03:50:11,279
>> we compared like cities and either they

5658
03:50:11,279 --> 03:50:12,880
were silent on the topic, which would

5659
03:50:12,880 --> 03:50:15,439
then refer you to the Miami Dade County

5660
03:50:15,439 --> 03:50:18,319
code, or they had their own. The only

5661
03:50:18,319 --> 03:50:21,520
city that stood out to be one of our

5662
03:50:21,520 --> 03:50:24,640
neighbors that was more strict than ours

5663
03:50:24,640 --> 03:50:28,239
um was um South Miami that required you

5664
03:50:28,239 --> 03:50:30,560
to register your vote with the city to

5665
03:50:30,560 --> 03:50:33,199
ensure that the vote belonged on that

5666
03:50:33,199 --> 03:50:36,399
property. Other than that, they are all

5667
03:50:36,399 --> 03:50:40,319
mirrored the same as ours.

5668
03:50:40,319 --> 03:50:43,760
>> So, that's a concern just basically that we're going to be an outlier with

5669
03:50:43,760 --> 03:50:46,479
other cities in in South Florida. Uh

5670
03:50:46,479 --> 03:50:48,800
Again,

5671
03:50:48,800 --> 03:50:51,040
I will I will listen to what my

5672
03:50:51,040 --> 03:50:52,960
colleagues have to say. Uh, I appreciate

5673
03:50:52,960 --> 03:50:56,560
your comments and and understand, but

5674
03:50:56,560 --> 03:51:00,000
this may require a little more work

5675
03:51:00,000 --> 03:51:02,560
uh to ensure that, you know, right now

5676
03:51:02,560 --> 03:51:05,600
we're we're trying to unbburden city

5677
03:51:05,600 --> 03:51:08,319
employees potentially, but at the same

5678
03:51:08,319 --> 03:51:10,239
time

5679
03:51:10,239 --> 03:51:11,520
they're driving down the road and they

5680
03:51:11,520 --> 03:51:14,080
see something that's not safe, has been

5681
03:51:14,080 --> 03:51:16,319
there for a while. You know, where where

5682
03:51:16,319 --> 03:51:19,120
do we draw the line? Do we just let the

5683
03:51:19,120 --> 03:51:22,239
HOA handle it? And then we're looking

5684
03:51:22,239 --> 03:51:23,520
differently at areas that don't have

5685
03:51:23,520 --> 03:51:25,199
HOAs.

5686
03:51:25,199 --> 03:51:26,800
So

5687
03:51:26,800 --> 03:51:28,160
there's give and take here, I think,

5688
03:51:28,160 --> 03:51:31,279
that we have to look at. Uh

5689
03:51:31,279 --> 03:51:39,429
I'll see what everyone else has to say.

5690
03:51:39,439 --> 03:51:41,120
» Oh,

5691
03:51:41,120 --> 03:51:43,439
I'll just let me just throw my two cents

5692
03:51:43,439 --> 03:51:48,319
in here. Um the two-hour citywide

5693
03:51:48,319 --> 03:51:52,560
um code is I think

5694
03:51:52,560 --> 03:51:55,120
a little short

5695
03:51:55,120 --> 03:51:56,800
and I don't know how many of our code

5696
03:51:56,800 --> 03:51:58,560
officers are driving around on a Sunday

5697
03:51:58,560 --> 03:52:00,319
afternoon looking for people who got

5698
03:52:00,319 --> 03:52:01,520
their boats out in front of the yard

5699
03:52:01,520 --> 03:52:04,319
more than two hours. So, I think some I

5700
03:52:04,319 --> 03:52:05,279
don't know if somebody's mentioned it

5701
03:52:05,279 --> 03:52:07,680
that maybe we look at this and and

5702
03:52:07,680 --> 03:52:11,760
change the code entirely because

5703
03:52:11,760 --> 03:52:14,000
my thought was although I support the

5704
03:52:14,000 --> 03:52:16,560
HOA's taking care of their their

5705
03:52:16,560 --> 03:52:19,359
residents and their properties

5706
03:52:19,359 --> 03:52:21,279
that it's more of selective enforcement

5707
03:52:21,279 --> 03:52:24,160
on the city side where someone who lives

5708
03:52:24,160 --> 03:52:25,920
in the northwest section, the code

5709
03:52:25,920 --> 03:52:28,160
enforcement's going to enforce a

5710
03:52:28,160 --> 03:52:30,640
two-hour curfew on their boat and that

5711
03:52:30,640 --> 03:52:33,279
same guy goes and visits the guy in

5712
03:52:33,279 --> 03:52:35,120
Keysgate and he's got his boat out in

5713
03:52:35,120 --> 03:52:36,720
his yard for two year or two days or

5714
03:52:36,720 --> 03:52:40,160
three days. So,

5715
03:52:40,160 --> 03:52:42,560
I think the HOAs do a great job in in

5716
03:52:42,560 --> 03:52:44,880
maintaining and protecting the values of

5717
03:52:44,880 --> 03:52:46,560
their homes and their residents. And I

5718
03:52:46,560 --> 03:52:48,319
think

5719
03:52:48,319 --> 03:52:54,160
it's it needs more work than what is is here because I just think the

5720
03:52:54,160 --> 03:52:56,399
selective enforcement

5721
03:52:56,399 --> 03:52:57,920
could create an issue for us in the

5722
03:52:57,920 --> 03:53:00,160
future.

5723
03:53:00,160 --> 03:53:02,880
I don't know how you allow

5724
03:53:02,880 --> 03:53:05,680
a part of the city to ignore whatever

5725
03:53:05,680 --> 03:53:08,239
the code is and the other part of the

5726
03:53:08,239 --> 03:53:09,760
city has to be enforced with that code.

5727
03:53:09,760 --> 03:53:11,600
So I just don't understand that that

5728
03:53:11,600 --> 03:53:16,319
concept of it. So, um, but as I said, I

5729
03:53:16,319 --> 03:53:18,239
think the HOAs

5730
03:53:18,239 --> 03:53:20,880
have the ability to govern themselves a

5731
03:53:20,880 --> 03:53:22,960
lot better than the city does when it

5732
03:53:22,960 --> 03:53:26,080
comes to the enforcement of a 2-hour

5733
03:53:26,080 --> 03:53:29,840
rule or 72-hour rule based on, you know,

5734
03:53:29,840 --> 03:53:31,680
the way some of those communities look

5735
03:53:31,680 --> 03:53:33,199
versus

5736
03:53:33,199 --> 03:53:35,040
how some other communities in the city

5737
03:53:35,040 --> 03:53:38,399
looks as well. So, maybe I think vice

5738
03:53:38,399 --> 03:53:42,000
mayor mentioned a workshop to

5739
03:53:42,000 --> 03:53:44,080
And I hate keep adding up workshops and

5740
03:53:44,080 --> 03:53:47,040
workshops, but if we're going to make,

5741
03:53:47,040 --> 03:53:50,080
you know, improvements to the city, I

5742
03:53:50,080 --> 03:53:51,520
think it takes more than sitting here

5743
03:53:51,520 --> 03:53:55,040
for an hour to debate a topic like this

5744
03:53:55,040 --> 03:53:58,319
where um I just think that the selective

5745
03:53:58,319 --> 03:54:00,399
enforcement part of it is a is a big

5746
03:54:00,399 --> 03:54:04,080
problem. Um and once residents realize

5747
03:54:04,080 --> 03:54:06,399
on the northwest side that people on the

5748
03:54:06,399 --> 03:54:08,479
east side parked their boats for three

5749
03:54:08,479 --> 03:54:11,840
days and not got a citation and and I'm

5750
03:54:11,840 --> 03:54:14,399
getting a citation. I feel bad for the

5751
03:54:14,399 --> 03:54:16,560
representatives in that that area, you

5752
03:54:16,560 --> 03:54:18,880
know. So,

5753
03:54:18,880 --> 03:54:20,800
that's just my two cents for for this

5754
03:54:20,800 --> 03:54:21,680
topic.

5755
03:54:21,680 --> 03:54:22,399
>> Thank you, Mary.

5756
03:54:22,399 --> 03:54:26,160
>> Thank you, Councilman. So, in the runup

5757
03:54:26,160 --> 03:54:29,600
to this, well, let me back up. At its

5758
03:54:29,600 --> 03:54:32,560
core,

5759
03:54:32,560 --> 03:54:37,040
this proposed ordinance

5760
03:54:37,040 --> 03:54:40,720
legalizes activity that is contrary to

5761
03:54:40,720 --> 03:54:45,520
city code. And while it is true when one

5762
03:54:45,520 --> 03:54:48,960
says that HOA rules are different from

5763
03:54:48,960 --> 03:54:50,960
city codes,

5764
03:54:50,960 --> 03:54:54,720
it is more truthful to say that they are

5765
03:54:54,720 --> 03:54:57,680
by and large and we all view them as

5766
03:54:57,680 --> 03:55:01,040
more restrictive than city code. And I

5767
03:55:01,040 --> 03:55:03,439
think that's what folks expect when they

5768
03:55:03,439 --> 03:55:07,279
move into a gated community are those

5769
03:55:07,279 --> 03:55:10,720
more restrictive rules. And however it

5770
03:55:10,720 --> 03:55:12,960
happened, it's come to our attention now

5771
03:55:12,960 --> 03:55:16,960
that some HOAs have

5772
03:55:16,960 --> 03:55:23,199
rules that violate city code. So, we're

5773
03:55:23,199 --> 03:55:25,359
and and to to piggyback on Councilman

5774
03:55:25,359 --> 03:55:26,960
Roth, and I think I touched on this at

5775
03:55:26,960 --> 03:55:29,040
first reading, this could be a real

5776
03:55:29,040 --> 03:55:32,399
slippery slope that if I'm the guy in

5777
03:55:32,399 --> 03:55:34,319
the Northwest that gets a ticket for

5778
03:55:34,319 --> 03:55:36,399
having my boat out there in the driveway

5779
03:55:36,399 --> 03:55:38,160
for the third hour, I'm going to say,

5780
03:55:38,160 --> 03:55:40,720
"Hey, wait a minute.

5781
03:55:40,720 --> 03:55:42,960
You allow these folks over on the other

5782
03:55:42,960 --> 03:55:46,720
side of town to park them out there for

5783
03:55:46,720 --> 03:55:50,080
three days." and and that that's just a

5784
03:55:50,080 --> 03:55:52,080
slippery slope that's going to open up a

5785
03:55:52,080 --> 03:55:55,040
lot of of a lot of issues. I think I

5786
03:55:55,040 --> 03:55:57,199
don't know what the history is of why we

5787
03:55:57,199 --> 03:56:00,960
only allow two hours and and maybe we

5788
03:56:00,960 --> 03:56:04,479
need to to look at that. But what is

5789
03:56:04,479 --> 03:56:07,680
being asked here is is not whether it's

5790
03:56:07,680 --> 03:56:12,239
2 hours, 12 hours, or 72 hours. This is

5791
03:56:12,239 --> 03:56:14,880
asking us as a city through code

5792
03:56:14,880 --> 03:56:18,960
enforcement to ignore those violations

5793
03:56:18,960 --> 03:56:22,319
in in gated communities and I I don't

5794
03:56:22,319 --> 03:56:24,479
know that we have the discretion to do

5795
03:56:24,479 --> 03:56:26,000
that.

5796
03:56:26,000 --> 03:56:28,080
But you know at its heart this seems to

5797
03:56:28,080 --> 03:56:31,520
be a solution in search of a problem.

5798
03:56:31,520 --> 03:56:33,760
The statistics that code enforcement

5799
03:56:33,760 --> 03:56:36,640
provided to each and every one of us is

5800
03:56:36,640 --> 03:56:40,319
that since January 1, 2024,

5801
03:56:40,319 --> 03:56:45,520
only 10 boat citations have been written

5802
03:56:45,520 --> 03:56:46,960
in I believe I don't know if it was

5803
03:56:46,960 --> 03:56:48,960
citywide or gated communities.

5804
03:56:48,960 --> 03:56:51,199
>> No, the requested information was for

5805
03:56:51,199 --> 03:56:54,479
the some of the larger associations.

5806
03:56:54,479 --> 03:56:55,680
>> I don't want to name them, but they're

5807
03:56:55,680 --> 03:56:58,239
in the memo with three of the largest

5808
03:56:58,239 --> 03:57:01,040
community associations. What violations

5809
03:57:01,040 --> 03:57:03,680
So 10 tickets if I may add that the

5810
03:57:03,680 --> 03:57:05,120
first reading there was a different

5811
03:57:05,120 --> 03:57:06,720
report that was circulated which was

5812
03:57:06,720 --> 03:57:09,920
more citywide and association specific.

5813
03:57:09,920 --> 03:57:11,359
>> So are you referring to the second

5814
03:57:11,359 --> 03:57:12,880
circulation or the first

5815
03:57:12,880 --> 03:57:14,640
>> the second request?

5816
03:57:14,640 --> 03:57:17,040
was incorrectly

5817
03:57:17,040 --> 03:57:19,760
provided but the first reporting that

5818
03:57:19,760 --> 03:57:21,920
was circulated at first hearing

5819
03:57:21,920 --> 03:57:24,720
>> that one showed approximately 160

5820
03:57:24,720 --> 03:57:26,319
violations.

5821
03:57:26,319 --> 03:57:29,199
mix between boats and parking citywide,

5822
03:57:29,199 --> 03:57:30,880
>> right? That was all for a longer period

5823
03:57:30,880 --> 03:57:32,479
of time. The second reporting was

5824
03:57:32,479 --> 03:57:34,960
narrowed to three three of the larger

5825
03:57:34,960 --> 03:57:36,880
associations for a shorter period of

5826
03:57:36,880 --> 03:57:37,600
time.

5827
03:57:37,600 --> 03:57:39,680
>> The second report

5828
03:57:39,680 --> 03:57:42,800
was not intended to request specifically

5829
03:57:42,800 --> 03:57:45,520
for boat and parking. So that that

5830
03:57:45,520 --> 03:57:48,640
information was not appropriate for this

5831
03:57:48,640 --> 03:57:49,520
discussion.

5832
03:57:49,520 --> 03:57:50,960
>> I don't I don't think that's accurate.

5833
03:57:50,960 --> 03:57:53,120
It clearly says boat violations and

5834
03:57:53,120 --> 03:57:55,279
parking on rideaway violations. that I

5835
03:57:55,279 --> 03:57:56,479
recall and it's here in the background

5836
03:57:56,479 --> 03:57:58,080
>> but it's not it's not for all the

5837
03:57:58,080 --> 03:57:59,600
associations that would be affected by

5838
03:57:59,600 --> 03:58:01,520
this ordinance. the first report that

5839
03:58:01,520 --> 03:58:03,920
you had requested on first hearing that

5840
03:58:03,920 --> 03:58:06,640
one was inclusive of the associations

5841
03:58:06,640 --> 03:58:09,840
and it was uh uh for boat and parking

5842
03:58:09,840 --> 03:58:11,840
enforcement and on that report which

5843
03:58:11,840 --> 03:58:14,080
Josh had circulated on the first hearing

5844
03:58:14,080 --> 03:58:16,560
had approximately 160 which you can

5845
03:58:16,560 --> 03:58:20,080
share 160 violations compiled between

5846
03:58:20,080 --> 03:58:22,160
the preppl and the and the current

5847
03:58:22,160 --> 03:58:26,239
program for for violations and out of

5848
03:58:26,239 --> 03:58:29,600
160 30% of those

5849
03:58:29,600 --> 03:58:33,920
um were association specific and out of

5850
03:58:33,920 --> 03:58:38,800
those um um associations

5851
03:58:38,800 --> 03:58:42,399
district uh five for example was the was

5852
03:58:42,399 --> 03:58:44,640
like over 50%. So, you know, hence why

5853
03:58:44,640 --> 03:58:46,080
I'm the one bringing the item. I'm the

5854
03:58:46,080 --> 03:58:47,359
one hearing the complaints and the

5855
03:58:47,359 --> 03:58:48,160
issues.

5856
03:58:48,160 --> 03:58:48,640
>> Right.

5857
03:58:48,640 --> 03:58:49,199
>> So,

5858
03:58:49,199 --> 03:58:52,000
>> 30% of 160 whatever.

5859
03:58:52,000 --> 03:58:53,600
>> It's not 10. That's for sure. It's not

5860
03:58:53,600 --> 03:58:54,239
10.

5861
03:58:54,239 --> 03:58:59,120
>> Okay. But 30% of 160 is 48. Half of 48

5862
03:58:59,120 --> 03:59:00,560
is 24.

5863
03:59:00,560 --> 03:59:01,120
>> Then uh

5864
03:59:01,120 --> 03:59:02,800
>> in your district,

5865
03:59:02,800 --> 03:59:06,399
>> that's still not an epidemic

5866
03:59:06,399 --> 03:59:08,399
of problems.

5867
03:59:08,399 --> 03:59:10,800
You've got to stop thinking about your

5868
03:59:10,800 --> 03:59:13,359
district would be my advice that we have

5869
03:59:13,359 --> 03:59:16,000
to think citywide. What's good for the

5870
03:59:16,000 --> 03:59:19,760
goose has got to be good for the gander.

5871
03:59:19,760 --> 03:59:21,680
>> Oh, I respect that 100%, mayor. And for

5872
03:59:21,680 --> 03:59:23,439
that reason, I contacted multiple

5873
03:59:23,439 --> 03:59:25,199
residents that live outside of the city

5874
03:59:25,199 --> 03:59:27,840
gates and to get their fair and full um

5875
03:59:27,840 --> 03:59:30,319
advice on this item and please do not

5876
03:59:30,319 --> 03:59:31,760
paint the picture that I don't care

5877
03:59:31,760 --> 03:59:33,359
about anything outside my district.

5878
03:59:33,359 --> 03:59:35,120
Don't put that much in my mouth. Well, I

5879
03:59:35,120 --> 03:59:37,279
do care about other districts aside from

5880
03:59:37,279 --> 03:59:40,239
my own. And I did make a very strong

5881
03:59:40,239 --> 03:59:42,640
effort to reach out and get feedback.

5882
03:59:42,640 --> 03:59:45,359
And what I was told was, Erica, code

5883
03:59:45,359 --> 03:59:48,080
enforcement needs to be focused on trash

5884
03:59:48,080 --> 03:59:50,560
and illegal dumping. And if if they're

5885
03:59:50,560 --> 03:59:52,720
spending time knocking doortodoor and

5886
03:59:52,720 --> 03:59:54,800
they're going in there and and u issuing

5887
03:59:54,800 --> 03:59:57,600
violations for boats and parking when

5888
03:59:57,600 --> 04:00:00,399
the associations have their rules, why

5889
04:00:00,399 --> 04:00:02,479
are they spending their time doing that?

5890
04:00:02,479 --> 04:00:04,800
I I I beg the same question. You want to

5891
04:00:04,800 --> 04:00:06,319
say it's only 10.

5892
04:00:06,319 --> 04:00:07,680
>> That's not the case.

5893
04:00:07,680 --> 04:00:09,840
>> So, mayor, may I offer a solution?

5894
04:00:09,840 --> 04:00:12,800
Pardon? May I offer a solution?

5895
04:00:12,800 --> 04:00:15,279
>> Uh I think that

5896
04:00:15,279 --> 04:00:17,120
we all need to do a little more deeper

5897
04:00:17,120 --> 04:00:20,640
dive into this before we approve final.

5898
04:00:20,640 --> 04:00:22,800
I would I would suggest we have another

5899
04:00:22,800 --> 04:00:25,520
workshop and again we can put two or

5900
04:00:25,520 --> 04:00:29,359
three of these together but and not only

5901
04:00:29,359 --> 04:00:31,359
look at the singular portion of boats

5902
04:00:31,359 --> 04:00:33,279
but we have to look at the RVs and other

5903
04:00:33,279 --> 04:00:34,720
things as well.

5904
04:00:34,720 --> 04:00:36,239
>> Well and and I think it's a good

5905
04:00:36,239 --> 04:00:39,040
opportunity to look at city code in

5906
04:00:39,040 --> 04:00:41,760
terms of length and one thing that

5907
04:00:41,760 --> 04:00:44,000
jumped out at me is there are some areas

5908
04:00:44,000 --> 04:00:46,640
that allow two boats in a yard. I think

5909
04:00:46,640 --> 04:00:49,359
one's plenty. two invites monetizing

5910
04:00:49,359 --> 04:00:53,279
your backyard. Go online and type in

5911
04:00:53,279 --> 04:00:55,600
boat rental space in Homestead and you

5912
04:00:55,600 --> 04:00:57,840
have hundreds of entries where people

5913
04:00:57,840 --> 04:01:00,399
are advertising

5914
04:01:00,399 --> 04:01:03,840
park your boat in my backyard for x00 a

5915
04:01:03,840 --> 04:01:05,199
month.

5916
04:01:05,199 --> 04:01:07,439
>> Mayor, if I may to Councilman um

5917
04:01:07,439 --> 04:01:09,760
Fletcher's uh question about why boats

5918
04:01:09,760 --> 04:01:12,560
not RVs. Boats are typically able to be

5919
04:01:12,560 --> 04:01:14,560
parked at a marina and you can bring it

5920
04:01:14,560 --> 04:01:16,479
and you can use it, clean it up, take it

5921
04:01:16,479 --> 04:01:18,160
back to your marina. RVs are not

5922
04:01:18,160 --> 04:01:20,560
typically something that I I have not

5923
04:01:20,560 --> 04:01:22,640
heard one complaint about, oh, I got

5924
04:01:22,640 --> 04:01:25,120
cited for my RV. If you either have

5925
04:01:25,120 --> 04:01:27,040
space in your yard to park your RV or

5926
04:01:27,040 --> 04:01:29,279
you're you're bringing it in, filling it

5927
04:01:29,279 --> 04:01:32,000
up, and leaving. But for the most part,

5928
04:01:32,000 --> 04:01:33,600
I have I have not heard one complaint

5929
04:01:33,600 --> 04:01:35,520
about RVs. But if you wanted to expand

5930
04:01:35,520 --> 04:01:40,960
it to include RVs as part of the HOA um

5931
04:01:40,960 --> 04:01:42,880
governance, I'm fine with that, too. I

5932
04:01:42,880 --> 04:01:44,000
don't think the HOAs would have an

5933
04:01:44,000 --> 04:01:44,479
issue.

5934
04:01:44,479 --> 04:01:46,160
>> And again, I don't think the HOAs have a

5935
04:01:46,160 --> 04:01:47,760
problem with RVs. It's the areas that

5936
04:01:47,760 --> 04:01:49,760
don't have HOAs where RVs are located

5937
04:01:49,760 --> 04:01:51,680
and people are living in them

5938
04:01:51,680 --> 04:01:53,040
>> that they probably shouldn't be.

5939
04:01:53,040 --> 04:01:53,760
>> Doesn't affect them.

5940
04:01:53,760 --> 04:01:55,439
>> But I think ultimately, you know, again,

5941
04:01:55,439 --> 04:01:57,439
we've we've talked about this since I've

5942
04:01:57,439 --> 04:02:01,439
been on council. Our code is very

5943
04:02:01,439 --> 04:02:03,040
>> draconian.

5944
04:02:03,040 --> 04:02:05,439
time to change that. But, you know, the

5945
04:02:05,439 --> 04:02:07,439
I think we need to sit down and really

5946
04:02:07,439 --> 04:02:09,840
have a a discussion with with all the

5947
04:02:09,840 --> 04:02:11,840
data, not with just dates here and

5948
04:02:11,840 --> 04:02:13,920
there. We need to compile all the data

5949
04:02:13,920 --> 04:02:16,239
and and put it in front of all of us. I

5950
04:02:16,239 --> 04:02:19,279
want to say this does nothing but

5951
04:02:19,279 --> 04:02:22,640
promotes the continued highlyization of

5952
04:02:22,640 --> 04:02:24,880
certain parts of our community. This is

5953
04:02:24,880 --> 04:02:28,640
the theory of anything goes. And I you

5954
04:02:28,640 --> 04:02:32,080
can have all the workshops you want.

5955
04:02:32,080 --> 04:02:35,840
We have to have consistent rules across

5956
04:02:35,840 --> 04:02:38,720
the board, whatever it it may be.

5957
04:02:38,720 --> 04:02:40,479
>> And I recommended at first reading that

5958
04:02:40,479 --> 04:02:42,399
perhaps we do that as a secondary step,

5959
04:02:42,399 --> 04:02:44,319
right, for consideration, using this as

5960
04:02:44,319 --> 04:02:46,239
an example for open up the discussion,

5961
04:02:46,239 --> 04:02:48,800
but you know, falling under the mayor's

5962
04:02:48,800 --> 04:02:50,960
leadership, there's no room for

5963
04:02:50,960 --> 04:02:53,040
expanding that. He called it

5964
04:02:53,040 --> 04:02:55,359
culturalization, changing cultural.

5965
04:02:55,359 --> 04:02:56,960
>> You're the one that used cultural

5966
04:02:56,960 --> 04:02:57,840
evolution.

5967
04:02:57,840 --> 04:02:59,279
>> No, I didn't say evolution. What I said

5968
04:02:59,279 --> 04:03:00,640
was if you want a more affluent

5969
04:03:00,640 --> 04:03:02,880
community, affluent people vote.

5970
04:03:02,880 --> 04:03:04,880
>> Affluent peoples don't trash up their

5971
04:03:04,880 --> 04:03:06,640
neighborhood by parking their boats in

5972
04:03:06,640 --> 04:03:08,160
the front yard.

5973
04:03:08,160 --> 04:03:09,920
>> They put them in the back or leave them

5974
04:03:09,920 --> 04:03:10,720
at the marina.

5975
04:03:10,720 --> 04:03:11,279
>> I have a question though.

5976
04:03:11,279 --> 04:03:12,319
>> Point of order.

5977
04:03:12,319 --> 04:03:15,680
>> I I have a question. In the exhibit

5978
04:03:15,680 --> 04:03:18,720
three that I guess is is in the booklet

5979
04:03:18,720 --> 04:03:20,479
here.

5980
04:03:20,479 --> 04:03:22,399
Uh yeah, the same tab we're talking

5981
04:03:22,399 --> 04:03:24,720
about. It it lists all the communities

5982
04:03:24,720 --> 04:03:26,399
that are looks like all the gated

5983
04:03:26,399 --> 04:03:28,800
communities here.

5984
04:03:28,800 --> 04:03:29,760
>> Who answered?

5985
04:03:29,760 --> 04:03:31,760
So,

5986
04:03:31,760 --> 04:03:33,040
>> right. So, we went through the

5987
04:03:33,040 --> 04:03:35,279
management companies for the respective

5988
04:03:35,279 --> 04:03:37,520
um associations that we had listings and

5989
04:03:37,520 --> 04:03:40,479
contact information for and we sent

5990
04:03:40,479 --> 04:03:42,560
multiple email requests for information

5991
04:03:42,560 --> 04:03:45,279
and these are uh the responses that we

5992
04:03:45,279 --> 04:03:46,000
received.

5993
04:03:46,000 --> 04:03:48,239
>> Right. So, it looks like

5994
04:03:48,239 --> 04:03:54,630
um most of Oasis

5995
04:03:54,640 --> 04:03:59,520
Um, Waterstone did some communities,

5996
04:03:59,520 --> 04:04:01,680
but in Waterstone, the ones that I see

5997
04:04:01,680 --> 04:04:04,319
for Waterstone, they don't allow any

5998
04:04:04,319 --> 04:04:06,080
boat boat parking or any temporary

5999
04:04:06,080 --> 04:04:08,640
parking in those communities.

6000
04:04:08,640 --> 04:04:10,399
And

6001
04:04:10,399 --> 04:04:12,319
um,

6002
04:04:12,319 --> 04:04:14,239
in the

6003
04:04:14,239 --> 04:04:16,239
Menescino area, states Menescino,

6004
04:04:16,239 --> 04:04:17,920
Sonora, they didn't get any response.

6005
04:04:17,920 --> 04:04:21,279
So, we don't know what they allow. And

6006
04:04:21,279 --> 04:04:24,239
in the fairways is the longest with Dun

6007
04:04:24,239 --> 04:04:25,760
Woody

6008
04:04:25,760 --> 04:04:29,840
and Augusta Greens at 72 hours and the

6009
04:04:29,840 --> 04:04:31,600
others are 24 hours. Right?

6010
04:04:31,600 --> 04:04:34,239
>> But if you look down this list,

6011
04:04:34,239 --> 04:04:39,030
most of those HOAs don't allow any

6012
04:04:39,040 --> 04:04:42,080
parking in the front temporarily. And

6013
04:04:42,080 --> 04:04:45,439
it'd be interesting what the

6014
04:04:45,439 --> 04:04:46,960
bylaws for each of these other

6015
04:04:46,960 --> 04:04:49,520
communities actually state because if

6016
04:04:49,520 --> 04:04:51,279
we're only talking about basically

6017
04:04:51,279 --> 04:04:55,840
Keysgate that has these

6018
04:04:55,840 --> 04:04:57,760
>> temporary parking allowances,

6019
04:04:57,760 --> 04:05:00,479
>> it's only a portion, right, that the

6020
04:05:00,479 --> 04:05:03,439
Keys the Keysgate responses had the

6021
04:05:03,439 --> 04:05:09,040
24hour for some and they went by

6022
04:05:09,040 --> 04:05:12,080
community lot size. So, some communities

6023
04:05:12,080 --> 04:05:14,640
that have the smaller lots, even though

6024
04:05:14,640 --> 04:05:16,960
they all have driveways, individual

6025
04:05:16,960 --> 04:05:18,960
driveways, the smaller lots were not

6026
04:05:18,960 --> 04:05:20,560
afforded

6027
04:05:20,560 --> 04:05:24,800
um the parking, some not at all. Some

6028
04:05:24,800 --> 04:05:27,359
the 24-hour based on the lot size and

6029
04:05:27,359 --> 04:05:29,680
then the more generous estate homes have

6030
04:05:29,680 --> 04:05:32,000
the 72-hour. So, it's not everyone in

6031
04:05:32,000 --> 04:05:35,040
Keysgate that falls in you. Keysgate

6032
04:05:35,040 --> 04:05:38,479
runs their boat regulation parking by

6033
04:05:38,479 --> 04:05:41,520
the size of the lot. Got it. So when you

6034
04:05:41,520 --> 04:05:44,080
look at Augusta Greens, for example,

6035
04:05:44,080 --> 04:05:47,359
they have like zero lots. So they got a

6036
04:05:47,359 --> 04:05:49,600
72-hour parking limit there.

6037
04:05:49,600 --> 04:05:50,880
>> That was the rationale by

6038
04:05:50,880 --> 04:05:54,000
>> Dun Woody would be probably

6039
04:05:54,000 --> 04:05:56,479
um the larger and the fairways would be

6040
04:05:56,479 --> 04:06:01,040
the larger lots that allow for 72 hours.

6041
04:06:01,040 --> 04:06:04,790
So,

6042
04:06:04,800 --> 04:06:07,359
I mean, at this point, we're only

6043
04:06:07,359 --> 04:06:08,800
considering without the information

6044
04:06:08,800 --> 04:06:11,520
coming in from these other associations.

6045
04:06:11,520 --> 04:06:13,120
Keysgate.

6046
04:06:13,120 --> 04:06:14,720
>> Well, well, no. Um,

6047
04:06:14,720 --> 04:06:15,840
>> no, I can testify that

6048
04:06:15,840 --> 04:06:17,439
>> those were the ones that had the mult

6049
04:06:17,439 --> 04:06:19,600
that that had the multi-, you know, the

6050
04:06:19,600 --> 04:06:21,680
tiered amount of hours that were listed,

6051
04:06:21,680 --> 04:06:24,080
>> right? But everybody else is a no. Other

6052
04:06:24,080 --> 04:06:25,840
>> everybody else is a no. They don't have

6053
04:06:25,840 --> 04:06:27,520
any temporary parking.

6054
04:06:27,520 --> 04:06:29,359
>> So, it's not like code couldn't go into

6055
04:06:29,359 --> 04:06:30,880
them today.

6056
04:06:30,880 --> 04:06:34,800
and two hours psych the boat, right?

6057
04:06:34,800 --> 04:06:36,239
Because they're not they're not they're

6058
04:06:36,239 --> 04:06:38,000
not enfor the HOA is going to be

6059
04:06:38,000 --> 04:06:40,960
enforcing this as well because there is

6060
04:06:40,960 --> 04:06:43,520
no temporary parking in there.

6061
04:06:43,520 --> 04:06:43,920
>> So,

6062
04:06:43,920 --> 04:06:45,279
>> right now there's no correct.

6063
04:06:45,279 --> 04:06:46,720
>> Yeah, there is there is no temporary

6064
04:06:46,720 --> 04:06:48,560
parking in there. And even if we pass

6065
04:06:48,560 --> 04:06:50,560
this ordinance,

6066
04:06:50,560 --> 04:06:53,760
it doesn't affect them, right? Because

6067
04:06:53,760 --> 04:06:55,279
they don't allow it for parking,

6068
04:06:55,279 --> 04:06:56,960
>> right? As of right now, they don't allow

6069
04:06:56,960 --> 04:06:57,920
it. But if if

6070
04:06:57,920 --> 04:06:59,520
>> but they can't change their rules

6071
04:06:59,520 --> 04:07:01,040
>> unless it's by resident vote.

6072
04:07:01,040 --> 04:07:02,640
>> They can change their rules.

6073
04:07:02,640 --> 04:07:04,880
>> This ordinance helps those whose rules

6074
04:07:04,880 --> 04:07:07,760
violate city code,

6075
04:07:07,760 --> 04:07:10,000
>> which is two hours,

6076
04:07:10,000 --> 04:07:12,000
>> which I think we need to look at the

6077
04:07:12,000 --> 04:07:15,439
code itself to allow for a more lenient

6078
04:07:15,439 --> 04:07:16,640
time.

6079
04:07:16,640 --> 04:07:18,160
>> Um,

6080
04:07:18,160 --> 04:07:20,479
and I think for Councilman Fletcher's

6081
04:07:20,479 --> 04:07:22,720
concern when it comes to the RVs, we

6082
04:07:22,720 --> 04:07:23,920
already have

6083
04:07:23,920 --> 04:07:25,680
>> we have we're pretty tight. We just did

6084
04:07:25,680 --> 04:07:26,800
something a couple years ago.

6085
04:07:26,800 --> 04:07:29,040
>> Yeah, we the RV were pretty tight. I

6086
04:07:29,040 --> 04:07:30,479
think at one point they were going to

6087
04:07:30,479 --> 04:07:33,120
report back to us the areas and the RVs

6088
04:07:33,120 --> 04:07:34,640
and the addresses of those that got

6089
04:07:34,640 --> 04:07:37,520
cited for having housing in those. I

6090
04:07:37,520 --> 04:07:38,720
don't think I've ever seen that report

6091
04:07:38,720 --> 04:07:41,600
ever, but um and I'm sure there there

6092
04:07:41,600 --> 04:07:44,239
have been some. Um so that that's really

6093
04:07:44,239 --> 04:07:45,520
in there already. Fletcher, that was

6094
04:07:45,520 --> 04:07:47,439
pretty strict, too, the the RV thing

6095
04:07:47,439 --> 04:07:48,960
because I know there were a few in the

6096
04:07:48,960 --> 04:07:50,399
villages that were people were living in

6097
04:07:50,399 --> 04:07:52,080
them and those things are gone now. So,

6098
04:07:52,080 --> 04:07:54,000
I'm sure the code got all over them and

6099
04:07:54,000 --> 04:07:56,239
took care of that. But I I I think we

6100
04:07:56,239 --> 04:07:58,399
need to go and have a workshop. Let's

6101
04:07:58,399 --> 04:08:00,640
get this thing ironed out so it's it's

6102
04:08:00,640 --> 04:08:03,359
fair for everybody. Um and it's not

6103
04:08:03,359 --> 04:08:05,120
selective

6104
04:08:05,120 --> 04:08:05,920
in nature.

6105
04:08:05,920 --> 04:08:08,560
>> I would support a 72-hour rule. Say it's

6106
04:08:08,560 --> 04:08:10,479
citywide. I I was trying to be

6107
04:08:10,479 --> 04:08:12,800
respectful of, you know, other positions

6108
04:08:12,800 --> 04:08:16,000
and, you know, be precise and and

6109
04:08:16,000 --> 04:08:17,840
surgical on how we approach these, which

6110
04:08:17,840 --> 04:08:19,199
is not unprecedented, but

6111
04:08:19,199 --> 04:08:22,319
>> I can support 72 and one boat. Take away

6112
04:08:22,319 --> 04:08:24,080
the ability for the second boat.

6113
04:08:24,080 --> 04:08:25,680
>> That's in our code is to allow two boats

6114
04:08:25,680 --> 04:08:26,560
in your backyard

6115
04:08:26,560 --> 04:08:28,239
>> depending upon the size of the lot

6116
04:08:28,239 --> 04:08:29,520
>> or greater than half an acre.

6117
04:08:29,520 --> 04:08:30,239
>> Yeah.

6118
04:08:30,239 --> 04:08:33,439
>> Westberry Redland Reef was the woman who

6119
04:08:33,439 --> 04:08:35,920
had her boat and she was ticketed for

6120
04:08:35,920 --> 04:08:39,199
having both instead of only one. Yes. So

6121
04:08:39,199 --> 04:08:40,880
that would be that would be that would

6122
04:08:40,880 --> 04:08:42,640
be an item that we can also address.

6123
04:08:42,640 --> 04:08:44,160
>> I think that may have been location. I

6124
04:08:44,160 --> 04:08:45,439
think you can have one of each, but

6125
04:08:45,439 --> 04:08:46,960
they're supposed to be in the back.

6126
04:08:46,960 --> 04:08:48,479
>> That's what she absolutely testified

6127
04:08:48,479 --> 04:08:50,479
that that she had was both in the back.

6128
04:08:50,479 --> 04:08:53,279
So I I I will defer this item until

6129
04:08:53,279 --> 04:08:54,720
after we have a workshop and I

6130
04:08:54,720 --> 04:08:56,800
appreciate everyone's commitment to to

6131
04:08:56,800 --> 04:08:58,479
addressing this concern. If you don't

6132
04:08:58,479 --> 04:09:00,399
live in a gated community, then you're

6133
04:09:00,399 --> 04:09:02,560
not re you're not living the problem

6134
04:09:02,560 --> 04:09:04,160
because you might have a larger lot

6135
04:09:04,160 --> 04:09:05,600
where you can park your boat behind your

6136
04:09:05,600 --> 04:09:06,960
fence.

6137
04:09:06,960 --> 04:09:09,040
Come with me and let's count RVs and

6138
04:09:09,040 --> 04:09:10,560
boats that shouldn't be in my

6139
04:09:10,560 --> 04:09:12,239
neighborhood.

6140
04:09:12,239 --> 04:09:14,239
>> Yeah, I'm not discounting that.

6141
04:09:14,239 --> 04:09:15,840
>> But you don't have a second anyway. So,

6142
04:09:15,840 --> 04:09:17,279
it's move to defer.

6143
04:09:17,279 --> 04:09:19,040
>> I'm moving to defer.

6144
04:09:19,040 --> 04:09:21,199
>> Mr. Mayor, also there's a resident who

6145
04:09:21,199 --> 04:09:23,680
can't call in who wants to speak. Um

6146
04:09:23,680 --> 04:09:25,279
>> Oh, did we do a public comment on this

6147
04:09:25,279 --> 04:09:25,840
item?

6148
04:09:25,840 --> 04:09:28,160
>> Well, I mean, we we asked for it. He's

6149
04:09:28,160 --> 04:09:30,479
unable to talk. So, maybe we can get him

6150
04:09:30,479 --> 04:09:32,239
to speak at the workshop.

6151
04:09:32,239 --> 04:09:34,479
>> Yeah. I'd like I'd like to hear I'd if

6152
04:09:34,479 --> 04:09:35,680
there's someone who'd like to make a

6153
04:09:35,680 --> 04:09:37,040
public comment either positive or

6154
04:09:37,040 --> 04:09:38,399
negative on the item, I want I would

6155
04:09:38,399 --> 04:09:40,800
like to hear it today,

6156
04:09:40,800 --> 04:09:42,479
>> but I'm still okay with deferring.

6157
04:09:42,479 --> 04:09:44,239
>> So, they're unable to to call in. I

6158
04:09:44,239 --> 04:09:45,600
guess they're on the YouTube channel,

6159
04:09:45,600 --> 04:09:47,520
but is there a number I can have them

6160
04:09:47,520 --> 04:09:49,439
call in?

6161
04:09:49,439 --> 04:09:50,880
>> They could call you and you can put your

6162
04:09:50,880 --> 04:09:54,630
phone up to the microphone.

6163
04:09:54,640 --> 04:09:56,640
» That's one way. The other way is to go

6164
04:09:56,640 --> 04:09:59,920
into the city website and then in this

6165
04:09:59,920 --> 04:10:02,640
uh calendar of events then there they

6166
04:10:02,640 --> 04:10:07,269
can click in the zoom link

6167
04:10:07,279 --> 04:10:11,510
» if they have zoom

6168
04:10:11,520 --> 04:10:12,720
» or haven't called.

6169
04:10:12,720 --> 04:10:14,479
>> We can do a suggested by the mayor and I

6170
04:10:14,479 --> 04:10:16,399
can give you a wireless mic and we can

6171
04:10:16,399 --> 04:10:17,920
put them in

6172
04:10:17,920 --> 04:10:19,520
>> I can put him right with this mic if he

6173
04:10:19,520 --> 04:10:21,520
wants to call. Okay,

6174
04:10:21,520 --> 04:10:25,750
>> I'll call him.

6175
04:10:25,760 --> 04:10:26,640
radio.

6176
04:10:26,640 --> 04:10:28,239
>> Yeah.

6177
04:10:28,239 --> 04:10:30,479
>> 12.

6178
04:10:30,479 --> 04:10:31,840
>> You want to talk or you want to wait for

6179
04:10:31,840 --> 04:10:35,349
the workshop?

6180
04:10:35,359 --> 04:10:40,950
» Oh, hang on. I'm putting on speaker.

6181
04:10:40,960 --> 04:10:42,880
» Go ahead.

6182
04:10:42,880 --> 04:10:45,279
>> Okay. Can everybody hear me? Mayor and

6183
04:10:45,279 --> 04:10:46,560
council.

6184
04:10:46,560 --> 04:10:47,840
>> Yes.

6185
04:10:47,840 --> 04:10:49,359
>> Manager.

6186
04:10:49,359 --> 04:10:51,040
>> Okay. Can you hear me? Okay.

6187
04:10:51,040 --> 04:10:52,800
>> Yes.

6188
04:10:52,800 --> 04:10:56,319
>> Okay. Okay. 104. So

6189
04:10:56,319 --> 04:10:58,960
we did the letter.

6190
04:10:58,960 --> 04:11:01,439
>> Hang on. Hang on. Hang on. Hang on.

6191
04:11:01,439 --> 04:11:04,160
>> Larry Mino. Larry Mino.

6192
04:11:04,160 --> 04:11:09,359
>> Larry Mino. 2555. Done. Woody Place.

6193
04:11:09,359 --> 04:11:11,439
>> Go ahead.

6194
04:11:11,439 --> 04:11:15,439
>> So Keys Gate did send a letter in

6195
04:11:15,439 --> 04:11:19,920
support of this code amendment change.

6196
04:11:19,920 --> 04:11:23,840
And in the letter, it outlines the

6197
04:11:23,840 --> 04:11:28,160
reason why I hear an echo. Am I echoing

6198
04:11:28,160 --> 04:11:29,040
to you?

6199
04:11:29,040 --> 04:11:30,640
>> You're fine.

6200
04:11:30,640 --> 04:11:34,880
>> Okay. So, in the letter, it outlines the

6201
04:11:34,880 --> 04:11:38,720
governance that Keysgate

6202
04:11:38,720 --> 04:11:44,080
has followed for the 25, 30, 35 years of

6203
04:11:44,080 --> 04:11:46,720
its existence.

6204
04:11:46,720 --> 04:11:51,520
Now, the fairways has a rule of 72 hours

6205
04:11:51,520 --> 04:11:54,800
east lake. It could be 48.

6206
04:11:54,800 --> 04:11:57,760
So, the point of this resolution is it

6207
04:11:57,760 --> 04:12:00,880
hasn't been a problem in the past.

6208
04:12:00,880 --> 04:12:04,319
Okay? But with the amendment, it would

6209
04:12:04,319 --> 04:12:08,479
allow us to continue to govern the same

6210
04:12:08,479 --> 04:12:11,680
way we have for the last 30 years.

6211
04:12:11,680 --> 04:12:14,479
You guys have admitted tonight that

6212
04:12:14,479 --> 04:12:17,439
there hasn't been a problem in our

6213
04:12:17,439 --> 04:12:19,520
communities.

6214
04:12:19,520 --> 04:12:23,600
You made reference to violations

6215
04:12:23,600 --> 04:12:25,359
and

6216
04:12:25,359 --> 04:12:28,239
they're non-existent.

6217
04:12:28,239 --> 04:12:31,359
So if the system is working currently

6218
04:12:31,359 --> 04:12:33,920
the way it's enforced

6219
04:12:33,920 --> 04:12:36,800
for the HOA,

6220
04:12:36,800 --> 04:12:40,640
why would you be opposed as a council

6221
04:12:40,640 --> 04:12:43,760
to this? Now if you want to improve

6222
04:12:43,760 --> 04:12:46,479
citywide

6223
04:12:46,479 --> 04:12:50,479
to extend the 2hour to 24hour whatever

6224
04:12:50,479 --> 04:12:53,680
it may be, then that that's a

6225
04:12:53,680 --> 04:12:56,640
conversation for a different day.

6226
04:12:56,640 --> 04:12:58,720
But we're not asking for special

6227
04:12:58,720 --> 04:13:03,040
treatment. We're asking that you just

6228
04:13:03,040 --> 04:13:05,600
continue to allow us to do what we've

6229
04:13:05,600 --> 04:13:12,159
done for 30 years. And in all honesty,

6230
04:13:12,159 --> 04:13:15,680
it's kept things smooth to where you can

6231
04:13:15,680 --> 04:13:18,560
focus on other areas that might need

6232
04:13:18,560 --> 04:13:20,800
more attention.

6233
04:13:20,800 --> 04:13:23,040
So, I'm kind of trying to understand the

6234
04:13:23,040 --> 04:13:27,359
tugof-war amongst council back and forth

6235
04:13:27,359 --> 04:13:30,720
when the proven track record

6236
04:13:30,720 --> 04:13:33,199
is there to show that we've governed at

6237
04:13:33,199 --> 04:13:35,279
a high

6238
04:13:35,279 --> 04:13:36,800
expectation

6239
04:13:36,800 --> 04:13:39,120
and we follow all the rules. Not that

6240
04:13:39,120 --> 04:13:41,920
code can't come in and do their thing.

6241
04:13:41,920 --> 04:13:44,239
That's not what we're doing. And in the

6242
04:13:44,239 --> 04:13:47,840
letter, it outlines a great relationship

6243
04:13:47,840 --> 04:13:51,680
that we've had I've spoken to Crystal

6244
04:13:51,680 --> 04:13:54,800
several times when she started calling

6245
04:13:54,800 --> 04:13:58,399
in reference to HOAs. Uh whether no

6246
04:13:58,399 --> 04:14:00,399
matter what it is, I support the city

6247
04:14:00,399 --> 04:14:03,439
and everything they do, but at the end

6248
04:14:03,439 --> 04:14:07,600
of the day, it it it's not we're playing

6249
04:14:07,600 --> 04:14:10,960
favorites. It's that if you decide to

6250
04:14:10,960 --> 04:14:13,840
come in and say, "Okay, we're going to

6251
04:14:13,840 --> 04:14:17,680
enforce a 2hour rule." And then now

6252
04:14:17,680 --> 04:14:19,920
you're having a fight with our

6253
04:14:19,920 --> 04:14:23,520
management company that is enforcing 72

6254
04:14:23,520 --> 04:14:26,640
or 48 hours. Now the homeowners not only

6255
04:14:26,640 --> 04:14:30,080
mad at the HOA, they're mad at the city.

6256
04:14:30,080 --> 04:14:33,760
So it it doesn't make any sense that we

6257
04:14:33,760 --> 04:14:37,359
would be against this for the HOA when

6258
04:14:37,359 --> 04:14:39,760
it's already has a proven track record.

6259
04:14:39,760 --> 04:14:41,680
So if you could explain to me why you

6260
04:14:41,680 --> 04:14:43,840
would be against it, I would love to

6261
04:14:43,840 --> 04:14:48,070
hear it.

6262
04:14:48,080 --> 04:14:51,279
Larry, can you hear me?

6263
04:14:51,279 --> 04:14:54,469
>> Hello.

6264
04:14:54,479 --> 04:14:56,720
» Can you hear him?

6265
04:14:56,720 --> 04:14:59,199
>> I can't. Go ahead.

6266
04:14:59,199 --> 04:15:00,319
>> That's not going to work.

6267
04:15:00,319 --> 04:15:01,600
>> Yeah,

6268
04:15:01,600 --> 04:15:06,790
>> he's got to hang up.

6269
04:15:06,800 --> 04:15:10,790
» Yeah, this is going to work.

6270
04:15:10,800 --> 04:15:19,429
» Yeah.

6271
04:15:19,439 --> 04:15:21,439
So Larry, if you're watching, it seems

6272
04:15:21,439 --> 04:15:23,199
we're going to defer this item and go to

6273
04:15:23,199 --> 04:15:25,040
workshop.

6274
04:15:25,040 --> 04:15:28,399
But for me, not living under the the

6275
04:15:28,399 --> 04:15:32,080
benefit or the burden of an HOA. For me,

6276
04:15:32,080 --> 04:15:35,920
it opens the door for more anything goes

6277
04:15:35,920 --> 04:15:38,640
in the Northwest. This is not about

6278
04:15:38,640 --> 04:15:41,920
whether the system has worked behind the

6279
04:15:41,920 --> 04:15:45,600
gate. We're now codifying

6280
04:15:45,600 --> 04:15:48,399
that certain neighborhoods have

6281
04:15:48,399 --> 04:15:51,040
different and less

6282
04:15:51,040 --> 04:15:56,000
restrictive rules than the city code.

6283
04:15:56,000 --> 04:15:59,279
So then how can you tell an ungated

6284
04:15:59,279 --> 04:16:02,080
community that you have a different

6285
04:16:02,080 --> 04:16:06,479
parking rule than a gated community?

6286
04:16:06,479 --> 04:16:09,680
This is this to me this is just not the

6287
04:16:09,680 --> 04:16:12,479
way to go about it. I don't know what

6288
04:16:12,479 --> 04:16:15,840
neighborhood what resident came to the

6289
04:16:15,840 --> 04:16:23,279
sponsor of this item and asked this to go forward. Um

6290
04:16:23,279 --> 04:16:25,520
you know it's just to me it opens the

6291
04:16:25,520 --> 04:16:28,479
door. we go down that slippery slope of

6292
04:16:28,479 --> 04:16:30,880
um if you're not going to enforce your

6293
04:16:30,880 --> 04:16:33,600
code on one side of town,

6294
04:16:33,600 --> 04:16:37,840
don't come try to enforce it against me

6295
04:16:37,840 --> 04:16:40,880
was is my concern.

6296
04:16:40,880 --> 04:16:43,760
If you hear that,

6297
04:16:43,760 --> 04:16:46,159
>> but we're but we have a motion to defer.

6298
04:16:46,159 --> 04:16:47,439
I think we need a second.

6299
04:16:47,439 --> 04:16:48,080
>> Second.

6300
04:16:48,080 --> 04:16:50,319
>> Okay, we have a motion to defer and a

6301
04:16:50,319 --> 04:16:53,040
second. All in favor?

6302
04:16:53,040 --> 04:16:55,520
>> I Any opposed? Okay. With the caveat,

6303
04:16:55,520 --> 04:17:02,960
this needs to go to workshop as well and clarify the uh the information.

6304
04:17:02,960 --> 04:17:05,279
Okay. So, does that take you to the

6305
04:17:05,279 --> 04:17:07,760
non-smoking? Yes. No smoking in a park.

6306
04:17:07,760 --> 04:17:10,880
Tap 32. Tab 32 is the second reading of

6307
04:17:10,880 --> 04:17:12,399
an ordinance of the city council of the

6308
04:17:12,399 --> 04:17:14,159
city of Homestead Florida amending the

6309
04:17:14,159 --> 04:17:15,840
city of Homestead Code of Ordinances by

6310
04:17:15,840 --> 04:17:17,920
creating article 7 smokefree parks of

6311
04:17:17,920 --> 04:17:19,600
chapter 20 parks and recreation to

6312
04:17:19,600 --> 04:17:21,279
prohibit smoking and vaping in city

6313
04:17:21,279 --> 04:17:23,520
parks subject to applicable state law

6314
04:17:23,520 --> 04:17:25,199
limitations providing for related

6315
04:17:25,199 --> 04:17:27,439
definitions prohibition signage and

6316
04:17:27,439 --> 04:17:29,199
enforcement providing for codification

6317
04:17:29,199 --> 04:17:30,640
providing for conflicts providing for

6318
04:17:30,640 --> 04:17:31,840
severability and providing for an

6319
04:17:31,840 --> 04:17:33,520
effective date

6320
04:17:33,520 --> 04:17:35,279
>> thank you it's been moved by vice mayor

6321
04:17:35,279 --> 04:17:38,159
seconded by councilman I think this is

6322
04:17:38,159 --> 04:17:40,720
one we can all agree upon agree upon and

6323
04:17:40,720 --> 04:17:44,080
say why didn't we think of this before

6324
04:17:44,080 --> 04:17:46,479
we didn't know this this loop this

6325
04:17:46,479 --> 04:17:48,880
loophole existed

6326
04:17:48,880 --> 04:17:52,720
so councilwoman anything to add on your

6327
04:17:52,720 --> 04:17:54,159
>> No I think that the uh comments that

6328
04:17:54,159 --> 04:17:55,199
were made at the beginning of our

6329
04:17:55,199 --> 04:17:57,199
meeting were very concise and this is

6330
04:17:57,199 --> 04:17:58,800
obviously for the benefit of our youth

6331
04:17:58,800 --> 04:18:01,279
and uh improving our parks. Thank you.

6332
04:18:01,279 --> 04:18:03,199
>> Thank you. Thank you for bringing it.

6333
04:18:03,199 --> 04:18:05,600
Okay. So, let's have a roll call vote on

6334
04:18:05,600 --> 04:18:07,439
tab 32.

6335
04:18:07,439 --> 04:18:08,399
>> Councilman Ron,

6336
04:18:08,399 --> 04:18:08,880
>> yes.

6337
04:18:08,880 --> 04:18:10,159
>> Councilwoman Avula,

6338
04:18:10,159 --> 04:18:10,479
>> yes.

6339
04:18:10,479 --> 04:18:11,920
>> Councilwoman Ksky,

6340
04:18:11,920 --> 04:18:12,319
>> yes.

6341
04:18:12,319 --> 04:18:13,439
>> Councilman Fletcher,

6342
04:18:13,439 --> 04:18:14,000
>> yes.

6343
04:18:14,000 --> 04:18:16,000
>> Councilman Cannibal,

6344
04:18:16,000 --> 04:18:16,479
>> yes.

6345
04:18:16,479 --> 04:18:17,520
>> Vice Mayor Bailey,

6346
04:18:17,520 --> 04:18:17,840
>> yes.

6347
04:18:17,840 --> 04:18:18,880
>> Mayor Losman,

6348
04:18:18,880 --> 04:18:19,279
>> yes.

6349
04:18:19,279 --> 04:18:21,600
>> The motion cap.

6350
04:18:21,600 --> 04:18:23,680
>> All right,

6351
04:18:23,680 --> 04:18:25,840
let me get back to my agenda page to

6352
04:18:25,840 --> 04:18:29,040
take you guys in the right order of who

6353
04:18:29,040 --> 04:18:31,680
gets to uh

6354
04:18:31,680 --> 04:18:33,600
>> What's that?

6355
04:18:33,600 --> 04:18:37,600
Yes, Mr. Manager.

6356
04:18:37,600 --> 04:18:40,159
Just a quick reminder that tomorrow we

6357
04:18:40,159 --> 04:18:43,279
have the job fair at Fico Williams and

6358
04:18:43,279 --> 04:18:45,359
also tomorrow we have the community

6359
04:18:45,359 --> 04:18:49,680
meeting at the the CRA building for

6360
04:18:49,680 --> 04:18:52,720
Pioneer Village with respect to the

6361
04:18:52,720 --> 04:18:55,279
water and sewer project and to remind

6362
04:18:55,279 --> 04:18:57,520
council that on April 30th we have a

6363
04:18:57,520 --> 04:18:59,439
field trip to the wastewater treatment

6364
04:18:59,439 --> 04:19:02,319
plants so that folks can get familiar

6365
04:19:02,319 --> 04:19:04,720
with the processes and the fact that the

6366
04:19:04,720 --> 04:19:06,479
city of Homestead has stayed with the

6367
04:19:06,479 --> 04:19:09,520
same facility for years even though

6368
04:19:09,520 --> 04:19:11,520
population had more than doubled. So

6369
04:19:11,520 --> 04:19:13,279
it's time for us to realize that it's

6370
04:19:13,279 --> 04:19:15,279
time to upgrade our systems and the

6371
04:19:15,279 --> 04:19:17,040
facilities.

6372
04:19:17,040 --> 04:19:19,199
Uh I think the rest I'm going to convey

6373
04:19:19,199 --> 04:19:20,720
to council through memo to mayor and

6374
04:19:20,720 --> 04:19:23,520
councel as well.

6375
04:19:23,520 --> 04:19:27,120
>> Okay. Thank you Mr. Attorney.

6376
04:19:27,120 --> 04:19:28,640
>> I don't have anything but I just wanted

6377
04:19:28,640 --> 04:19:30,399
to call your attention to this that we

6378
04:19:30,399 --> 04:19:32,159
had the other resolution that I don't

6379
04:19:32,159 --> 04:19:33,840
believe we heard yet. It was an added

6380
04:19:33,840 --> 04:19:35,760
agenda at the beginning. Okay. Yeah, if

6381
04:19:35,760 --> 04:19:36,960
we get that far tonight, I'll do it

6382
04:19:36,960 --> 04:19:37,680
under my business.

6383
04:19:37,680 --> 04:19:39,439
>> Okay. I just didn't want to lose the

6384
04:19:39,439 --> 04:19:41,199
thread. Yes.

6385
04:19:41,199 --> 04:19:46,309
>> Councilwoman Ksky.

6386
04:19:46,319 --> 04:19:49,600
» Couple things. I don't know um how many

6387
04:19:49,600 --> 04:19:54,239
of you have been to the popup DMV at

6388
04:19:54,239 --> 04:19:56,960
Dickinson, but what a pleasure that was.

6389
04:19:56,960 --> 04:19:58,960
No appointment. I was in and out in 20

6390
04:19:58,960 --> 04:20:03,120
minutes. So, um, my tip my hat to, um,

6391
04:20:03,120 --> 04:20:06,239
the tax collector, Fernandez. Um, I also

6392
04:20:06,239 --> 04:20:08,319
want to remind us remind everybody about

6393
04:20:08,319 --> 04:20:11,199
the National Day of Prayer here in the

6394
04:20:11,199 --> 04:20:14,800
chambers at 10:00 a.m.

6395
04:20:14,800 --> 04:20:18,479
and it's May 7th. Thank you. One more

6396
04:20:18,479 --> 04:20:20,399
thing, I was at the League of Cities

6397
04:20:20,399 --> 04:20:24,000
last last week and we were all um

6398
04:20:24,000 --> 04:20:26,880
invited to attend Memorial Day weekend

6399
04:20:26,880 --> 04:20:30,479
at the it's the 2026 uh Hyundai Air and

6400
04:20:30,479 --> 04:20:34,960
Sea Show um at South Beach. So that's

6401
04:20:34,960 --> 04:20:36,560
they they're they've dubbed it the

6402
04:20:36,560 --> 04:20:38,960
greatest show above the earth. That's

6403
04:20:38,960 --> 04:20:44,399
May 23rd and 24th. and um

6404
04:20:44,399 --> 04:20:47,439
quite an array there of demonstration of

6405
04:20:47,439 --> 04:20:50,239
all the military. So, and they're

6406
04:20:50,239 --> 04:20:52,319
expecting quite a turnout. And there is

6407
04:20:52,319 --> 04:20:55,199
also a Patriot display village uh and a

6408
04:20:55,199 --> 04:20:57,920
Saturday night firework and drone show.

6409
04:20:57,920 --> 04:21:01,680
So, thank you.

6410
04:21:01,680 --> 04:21:04,960
>> Hey, thank you, Councilman Roth.

6411
04:21:04,960 --> 04:21:07,359
Council Cannibal, you good? You're good.

6412
04:21:07,359 --> 04:21:10,960
Okay. Councilwoman Avala.

6413
04:21:10,960 --> 04:21:13,279
>> Thank you, Mayor. Um, I wanted to um

6414
04:21:13,279 --> 04:21:15,040
give uh props to our parks department

6415
04:21:15,040 --> 04:21:17,920
for your Arbor Day coming up. Um, thanks

6416
04:21:17,920 --> 04:21:19,359
for clarifying that we're not planting

6417
04:21:19,359 --> 04:21:20,960
or no, we're not buying trees. We're

6418
04:21:20,960 --> 04:21:22,239
going to be planting some trees. I look

6419
04:21:22,239 --> 04:21:25,439
forward to that. And um, I want to

6420
04:21:25,439 --> 04:21:27,439
recognize all of the community programs

6421
04:21:27,439 --> 04:21:30,479
that are um, recognizing month of the

6422
04:21:30,479 --> 04:21:33,040
military child and our autistic

6423
04:21:33,040 --> 04:21:35,760
families. We see you and um, we support

6424
04:21:35,760 --> 04:21:38,479
you. And I wanted to get an update about

6425
04:21:38,479 --> 04:21:41,199
our faith-based advisory board advisory

6426
04:21:41,199 --> 04:21:43,040
board. I had requested for that.

6427
04:21:43,040 --> 04:21:45,199
>> I have I have a draft to share with you.

6428
04:21:45,199 --> 04:21:46,080
>> Okay. Thank you.

6429
04:21:46,080 --> 04:21:46,880
>> Which is that?

6430
04:21:46,880 --> 04:21:49,439
>> Our faith-based advisory board. Yes. And

6431
04:21:49,439 --> 04:21:51,840
then um there is the Farm Bureau

6432
04:21:51,840 --> 04:21:53,840
barbecue coming up on Saturday. Please

6433
04:21:53,840 --> 04:21:56,319
go out and promote uh um that is going

6434
04:21:56,319 --> 04:21:59,120
to be at the Deari um distribution

6435
04:21:59,120 --> 04:22:01,040
packing house.

6436
04:22:01,040 --> 04:22:04,640
And um there is a program called uh

6437
04:22:04,640 --> 04:22:07,199
NIFTY NFTT.

6438
04:22:07,199 --> 04:22:11,439
It is a program that provides um summer

6439
04:22:11,439 --> 04:22:13,040
entrepreneurship

6440
04:22:13,040 --> 04:22:14,800
um

6441
04:22:14,800 --> 04:22:16,880
curriculum and it has traditionally been

6442
04:22:16,880 --> 04:22:19,040
held at Miami Dade College. They need a

6443
04:22:19,040 --> 04:22:20,720
new location. They're not going to be

6444
04:22:20,720 --> 04:22:22,239
able to host it this summer. It's a

6445
04:22:22,239 --> 04:22:27,920
program of 40 years and um they meet

6446
04:22:27,920 --> 04:22:31,359
June 15th through July 24th. And so I'm

6447
04:22:31,359 --> 04:22:33,439
seeking help from staff to um try to

6448
04:22:33,439 --> 04:22:35,040
identify a location. So if there's any

6449
04:22:35,040 --> 04:22:37,120
recommendations on where they can meet

6450
04:22:37,120 --> 04:22:38,960
during that time period, but they also

6451
04:22:38,960 --> 04:22:40,720
need access to computers, which is one

6452
04:22:40,720 --> 04:22:42,720
of the resources that the college was

6453
04:22:42,720 --> 04:22:45,680
providing for them. So

6454
04:22:45,680 --> 04:22:48,560
any ideas?

6455
04:22:48,560 --> 04:22:52,159
>> All right. And um I think that's it.

6456
04:22:52,159 --> 04:22:55,120
Thank you.

6457
04:22:55,120 --> 04:22:57,840
>> Okay. Um Councilman Fletcher,

6458
04:22:57,840 --> 04:22:59,040
>> thank you. And again, thank you for the

6459
04:22:59,040 --> 04:23:00,880
reminder for the Farm Bureau barbecue

6460
04:23:00,880 --> 04:23:07,030
this Saturday. Uh just quickly um

6461
04:23:07,040 --> 04:23:10,800
the way I'm not a a social media guy,

6462
04:23:10,800 --> 04:23:13,199
but I have been taking a look at at some

6463
04:23:13,199 --> 04:23:14,479
of the things that we've been doing

6464
04:23:14,479 --> 04:23:18,239
internally uh with with with Nolan uh

6465
04:23:18,239 --> 04:23:19,840
and the police department and some of

6466
04:23:19,840 --> 04:23:22,479
the things that we post at the city. But

6467
04:23:22,479 --> 04:23:25,840
I think we can do much better. Um, if

6468
04:23:25,840 --> 04:23:28,000
you look at the activation of what's

6469
04:23:28,000 --> 04:23:31,840
going on with the F1 race in Miami and

6470
04:23:31,840 --> 04:23:33,520
the the golf tournament that are both

6471
04:23:33,520 --> 04:23:37,040
next weekend, but the way they're going

6472
04:23:37,040 --> 04:23:39,359
about social media and promoting it is

6473
04:23:39,359 --> 04:23:41,040
unbelievable and the followings that

6474
04:23:41,040 --> 04:23:42,159
they're getting and I think we could

6475
04:23:42,159 --> 04:23:44,319
learn a big lesson from that, you know,

6476
04:23:44,319 --> 04:23:46,319
both internally and plus our partners as

6477
04:23:46,319 --> 04:23:49,040
well. So, uh, the way they activate

6478
04:23:49,040 --> 04:23:50,880
different parts of the community is, uh,

6479
04:23:50,880 --> 04:23:53,520
quite interesting. Uh, so something to

6480
04:23:53,520 --> 04:23:54,800
take a look at. I'll be more than happy

6481
04:23:54,800 --> 04:23:56,479
to share my thoughts individually with

6482
04:23:56,479 --> 04:23:59,359
whoever wants to talk about it, but it's it's pretty awesome what they're

6483
04:23:59,359 --> 04:24:01,760
doing and it just it's just showcasing

6484
04:24:01,760 --> 04:24:03,279
Miami in general. We want to showcase

6485
04:24:03,279 --> 04:24:05,279
Homestead. With that, that's it. Thank

6486
04:24:05,279 --> 04:24:05,760
you.

6487
04:24:05,760 --> 04:24:07,439
>> Thank you, sir. Vice Mayor.

6488
04:24:07,439 --> 04:24:09,600
>> Hey, a couple quick things, please. Um,

6489
04:24:09,600 --> 04:24:12,239
at the MLK breakfast, there was a group

6490
04:24:12,239 --> 04:24:14,880
from Everglades Prep that danced called

6491
04:24:14,880 --> 04:24:18,720
Golden and Exquisite. Um, the CRB had

6492
04:24:18,720 --> 04:24:21,680
sponsored a small amount for them to go

6493
04:24:21,680 --> 04:24:23,840
um to do

6494
04:24:23,840 --> 04:24:28,000
the state. They won state right after

6495
04:24:28,000 --> 04:24:30,880
the MLK breakfast and this last weekend

6496
04:24:30,880 --> 04:24:33,199
they just won nationals.

6497
04:24:33,199 --> 04:24:36,479
So, one of our local dance teams, CRB is

6498
04:24:36,479 --> 04:24:38,080
very proud that one of the first groups

6499
04:24:38,080 --> 04:24:40,960
that they um helped sponsor. So,

6500
04:24:40,960 --> 04:24:42,880
Everglades Prep, congratulations to

6501
04:24:42,880 --> 04:24:45,760
them. Golden and Exquisite dance team.

6502
04:24:45,760 --> 04:24:47,840
And speaking of amazing little humans,

6503
04:24:47,840 --> 04:24:50,960
today is Earth Day. I want to give a big

6504
04:24:50,960 --> 04:24:55,600
shout out to pack 69 and troop 78 that

6505
04:24:55,600 --> 04:24:57,680
have been out at some of our local parks

6506
04:24:57,680 --> 04:25:00,479
tonight cleaning up in lie of their

6507
04:25:00,479 --> 04:25:03,199
weekly meeting. I know they were at Lner

6508
04:25:03,199 --> 04:25:06,159
Park just recently. So, thank you

6509
04:25:06,159 --> 04:25:08,239
especially to the leaders. Speaking of

6510
04:25:08,239 --> 04:25:10,880
volunteers that are hard to find, Pack

6511
04:25:10,880 --> 04:25:14,800
60, PAC 69, Troop 78 has some of the

6512
04:25:14,800 --> 04:25:17,439
most amazing leaders. Thank you guys for

6513
04:25:17,439 --> 04:25:19,760
all your help, your hard work, and for

6514
04:25:19,760 --> 04:25:22,560
helping the earth have better humans to

6515
04:25:22,560 --> 04:25:25,520
inhabit it um through all your guidance

6516
04:25:25,520 --> 04:25:28,159
and and everything that you do for our

6517
04:25:28,159 --> 04:25:30,960
youth. And lastly, congratulations to

6518
04:25:30,960 --> 04:25:34,880
Candela who is Troop 78's newest Eagle

6519
04:25:34,880 --> 04:25:35,520
Scout.

6520
04:25:35,520 --> 04:25:36,080
>> Very good.

6521
04:25:36,080 --> 04:25:37,600
>> So,

6522
04:25:37,600 --> 04:25:39,279
thank you ma'am. That is all.

6523
04:25:39,279 --> 04:25:41,439
>> Okay. Thank you.

6524
04:25:41,439 --> 04:25:44,000
>> One more one more thing. I think you all

6525
04:25:44,000 --> 04:25:48,239
have before you resolution 2026 0453

6526
04:25:48,239 --> 04:25:50,239
that was distributed.

6527
04:25:50,239 --> 04:25:52,319
It loose. It wasn't in the book. This is

6528
04:25:52,319 --> 04:25:54,080
regarding

6529
04:25:54,080 --> 04:25:57,840
um potential solution. Our request to

6530
04:25:57,840 --> 04:26:02,319
the mayor to uh to go back to the way it

6531
04:26:02,319 --> 04:26:05,520
was prior to BRT until they figure it

6532
04:26:05,520 --> 04:26:08,399
out. I'm going to take this take this to

6533
04:26:08,399 --> 04:26:12,239
the TPO tomorrow for action. I

6534
04:26:12,239 --> 04:26:14,800
appreciate your support on that.

6535
04:26:14,800 --> 04:26:16,560
>> I mean,

6536
04:26:16,560 --> 04:26:19,760
>> yeah, they Yeah, we've just got to to

6537
04:26:19,760 --> 04:26:22,479
keep pushing. They respond to bad press.

6538
04:26:22,479 --> 04:26:24,720
So, do we have a motion?

6539
04:26:24,720 --> 04:26:26,800
>> It's been moved and seconded.

6540
04:26:26,800 --> 04:26:29,760
>> Uh, roll call on this resolution.

6541
04:26:29,760 --> 04:26:30,880
>> Councilwoman Avula,

6542
04:26:30,880 --> 04:26:33,040
>> yes. Councilman Roth,

6543
04:26:33,040 --> 04:26:34,080
>> Councilman Fletcher,

6544
04:26:34,080 --> 04:26:34,560
>> yes.

6545
04:26:34,560 --> 04:26:35,840
>> Councilwoman Ksky,

6546
04:26:35,840 --> 04:26:36,239
>> yes.

6547
04:26:36,239 --> 04:26:37,359
>> Councilman Cannibal,

6548
04:26:37,359 --> 04:26:37,920
>> yes.

6549
04:26:37,920 --> 04:26:38,960
>> Vice Mayor Bailey,

6550
04:26:38,960 --> 04:26:39,359
>> yes.

6551
04:26:39,359 --> 04:26:40,319
>> Mayor Lawson,

6552
04:26:40,319 --> 04:26:41,920
>> yes. The motion carries.

6553
04:26:41,920 --> 04:26:43,520
>> Couple other quick things. Just an

6554
04:26:43,520 --> 04:26:45,199
observation that maybe we should do some

6555
04:26:45,199 --> 04:26:47,040
of these workshops immediately following

6556
04:26:47,040 --> 04:26:53,590
the day of prayer here.

6557
04:26:53,600 --> 04:26:56,560
» Yeah. Um,

6558
04:26:56,560 --> 04:26:58,720
thank to all my colle Thank you to all

6559
04:26:58,720 --> 04:27:01,359
my colleagues who uh helped contribute

6560
04:27:01,359 --> 04:27:04,880
to fund the trip of the robotics club

6561
04:27:04,880 --> 04:27:06,560
from South Date High School who will be

6562
04:27:06,560 --> 04:27:08,080
traveling this weekend to a very

6563
04:27:08,080 --> 04:27:10,720
prestigious competition. I think

6564
04:27:10,720 --> 04:27:12,800
Jasmine, our assistant, told us that she

6565
04:27:12,800 --> 04:27:15,359
has a link that you can go on and watch

6566
04:27:15,359 --> 04:27:17,840
them compete and see see what their

6567
04:27:17,840 --> 04:27:20,560
robots and and so forth are

6568
04:27:20,560 --> 04:27:22,720
>> are doing.

6569
04:27:22,720 --> 04:27:25,600
and I've invited them to come do a

6570
04:27:25,600 --> 04:27:28,239
presentation at our May meeting. So,

6571
04:27:28,239 --> 04:27:29,920
we're going to we'll bring the robot,

6572
04:27:29,920 --> 04:27:32,640
recognize these kids, and uh you know,

6573
04:27:32,640 --> 04:27:36,720
before school gets out and come back and

6574
04:27:36,720 --> 04:27:39,120
>> maybe maybe

6575
04:27:39,120 --> 04:27:40,880
um

6576
04:27:40,880 --> 04:27:43,760
that's it. I had another item. I will uh

6577
04:27:43,760 --> 04:27:46,000
defer that until next month. We can get

6578
04:27:46,000 --> 04:27:48,479
a more formal presentation together. So,

6579
04:27:48,479 --> 04:27:50,239
with that, do I have a motion to

6580
04:27:50,239 --> 04:27:51,359
adjurnn?

6581
04:27:51,359 --> 04:27:53,680
>> Moved and second. All in favor?

6582
04:27:53,680 --> 04:27:57,279
>> Opposed. Thank you all. Good night.