[0:00] Good evening everyone and welcome. I'd
[0:02] like to call the city of Homestead City
[0:04] Council meeting to order. Today is
[0:07] Wednesday, April 22nd, 2026
[0:10] and it is now 6:01
[0:14] p.m. This evening we'll have the
[0:16] invocation by Reverend Michael Styles.
[0:18] Is uh Reverend Styles here? Is he here?
[0:23] >> Don't see him yet.
[0:27] Councilman Fletcher, would you mind? So,
[0:29] the invocation by Councilman Fletcher,
[0:31] followed by the uh pledge of allegiance
[0:34] with Councilman Fletcher and the
[0:35] Homestead Police Explorers. You please
[0:37] rise.
[0:41] Heavenly Father, we come to you with
[0:44] grateful hearts today and we thank you
[0:46] for your mercy and your grace. We ask
[0:49] you today for your wisdom to guide us to
[0:51] make the right decisions
[0:53] for our community. And we ask that you
[0:56] bless all of those who are in this
[0:57] chamber this evening
[1:00] and that you watch over the city
[1:03] employees, our first responders,
[1:07] our folks protecting our country around
[1:08] the world.
[1:10] And we ask these in your gracious name.
[1:13] Amen.
[1:14] >> Amen.
[1:15] >> Please join me on the pledge.
[1:32] left
[1:35] right
[1:52] Please join me
[1:54] >> all.
[1:57] » I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
[2:00] United States of America and to the
[2:02] republic for which it stands, one nation
[2:06] under God, indivisible, with liberty and
[2:09] justice for all.
[2:18] the face
[2:21] forward.
[2:26] The the right
[2:33] Thank you. Please be seated.
[2:38] Okay, at this time we will now uh open
[2:41] the floor for public comments
[2:44] as to any issue. Um, please be advised
[2:48] that uh now is the time to speak on any
[2:51] agenda issue with the exception of at
[2:54] the time any quadial
[2:57] quasi judicial item or land use item is
[3:00] called up, you will have the opportunity
[3:03] to uh to speak at that time. So yes,
[3:09] getting ahead of myself on the agenda.
[3:11] Thank you, Councilman. Roll call, Madam
[3:13] Clerk.
[3:13] >> Councilman Cannibal.
[3:15] >> Yes. Councilwoman Abula
[3:17] >> here.
[3:17] >> Counciloman Roth
[3:18] >> here.
[3:18] >> Councilman Fletcher
[3:19] >> here.
[3:20] >> Councilwoman Ksky
[3:21] >> here.
[3:22] >> Vice Mayor Bailey here.
[3:23] >> Mayor Losman
[3:24] >> here.
[3:25] >> Now, as I was saying, public comments.
[3:29] Is there anyone wishing to make a
[3:31] comment as to any issue, any agenda item
[3:35] with the exception of a land use quasi
[3:38] or quasi judicial item. Please come
[3:42] forward. Give us your name and address
[3:43] for the record. And please limit your
[3:45] comments to three minutes.
[3:49] Now note for the record that no one has
[3:52] appeared to sign to have pre-registered.
[3:55] So we'll call calling from the floor
[3:56] now. Hi, good evening. Welcome.
[3:59] >> Hi, my name is Ariel. Good evening
[4:01] everything. This is Claudia is my
[4:04] translation for today for tonight.
[4:08] » Good evening. My name is Claudia
[4:10] Gonzalez and I tried to interpret it to
[4:13] earlier.
[4:37] Uh good evening everyone. Um I came two
[4:41] months ago and I asked him about prop uh
[4:44] proposed um
[4:48] ordinance
[4:50] and I think um Miss uh Erica present
[4:54] about it and she want to know about
[4:56] what's uh is the followup for that.
[5:01] >> What what was the subject matter of the
[5:03] ordinance?
[5:08] Uh it is a safety drive.
[5:45] I try to remind everything. Um I want to
[5:49] know it is important the life of the uh
[5:52] community and that's what um she want to
[5:56] uh she want to know about the the
[5:59] resource if it I she know that someone
[6:02] she bring information to somebody else
[6:08] and she want to know what is uh the
[6:11] reser does her opinion
[6:16] » council phone.
[6:19] >> Thank you, Mayor.
[6:20] >> I was just going to see if the reminder
[6:21] was I think it was about cell phone
[6:23] usage, texting while driving and those
[6:26] things, right?
[6:27] >> Yes. She says about the driving and
[6:30] texting and it's about different
[6:33] accidents is in the community about that
[6:35] and that is the um
[6:39] >> so I'm not sure what what what they
[6:41] want.
[6:42] >> I I can speak to this. Yes. So I thank
[6:45] you. Thank you for asking about it. It
[6:47] has not formally come to the council yet
[6:50] for review. What I can say is that back
[6:54] in February, I did request for our city
[6:57] manager to work with our police
[7:00] department and with legal to investigate
[7:03] different um uh possibilities on how we
[7:06] can reinforce safer driving um code and
[7:10] language to give more power to our
[7:12] police department to um site people for
[7:15] distracted driving and to um just be
[7:18] stricter on cell phone usage to save to
[7:20] reduce traffic and accidents. Um I know
[7:23] that our attorney apped on it like next
[7:27] day. So did Chief Knap and that
[7:29] information um I believe is still in the
[7:33] works with our city manager's office. I
[7:35] have not received a response,
[7:38] but do you have maybe you have an
[7:40] update?
[7:41] >> No, I think at the at the set council
[7:43] meeting the city attorney that this is
[7:45] subject to Florida statute 316 which
[7:48] preempts local government. Uh Mr.
[7:51] Satony, correct me if I understand it. I
[7:53] understood you correctly.
[7:54] >> No, there are two statutes that cover
[7:57] texting while driving and it is covered
[7:59] in chapter 316. Um we're pre the cities
[8:03] are preempted from local regulation, but
[8:05] there are traffic site uniform traffic
[8:07] citations that can be issued under 316
[8:09] under existing law without the city
[8:11] doing anything. There's it's just a
[8:13] question of you know enforcement. It's
[8:16] not a question of uh having enabling
[8:19] legislation in order to prevent it.
[8:23] >> If I may, the
[8:25] this is something that I would like for
[8:27] the city manager's office to look into.
[8:29] The the request at the time was for a
[8:32] briefing to be put together for for us
[8:34] to discuss further. We haven't had that
[8:36] briefing yet with the results of what
[8:38] the the council and the uh police
[8:41] department's um advice and
[8:44] recommendations and and um and research
[8:47] provided so that we can then come back
[8:49] with a potential uh ordinance for
[8:52] consideration. But um thank you for for
[8:55] reminding us of the urgency of the
[8:57] matter that there was direction that
[8:59] went out right after that meeting. It
[9:01] might have been the next day or the day
[9:02] after. And I know that we did have um
[9:05] some information and research conducted.
[9:08] So I will continue to make it a priority
[9:10] and and they're hearing it now as well.
[9:11] So thank you.
[9:12] >> Thank you very much. Thank you.
[9:13] >> Thank you.
[9:16] >> Right,
[9:22] » Mr. Mayor.
[9:23] >> Yes. Also, just for information, Pastor
[9:25] Styles has arrived. If you'd like him to
[9:27] rebess us.
[9:39] Good evening, Mayor and Council, and all
[9:41] of our distinguished public servants in
[9:44] your capacities. Our names, Shandra
[9:47] Mallerie, Janette Mallalerie, 45 year
[9:49] residents here in the city of Homestead,
[9:52] and I just come before you tonight to
[9:54] humbly ask that we consider
[9:57] >> Yes, sir.
[9:59] Sorry.
[10:00] I humbly come before you tonight to ask
[10:02] that we consider two things. One, the
[10:05] flow of traffic in the southwest
[10:06] section. It is becoming an ultimate
[10:09] nightmare to cross Flaggler Street
[10:11] during the operating hours of, let's
[10:13] say, 10 to 12 on the weekends, which
[10:16] becomes an inconvenience for families
[10:18] that are, you know, trying to move
[10:19] around the city. And the code
[10:22] enforcement, um, we are homeowners. We
[10:26] have been homeowners for almost 50 years
[10:28] now. And I think there seems to be some
[10:32] sort of confusion as it pertains to the
[10:36] homeowners association type of
[10:38] restrictions versus homeowners, single
[10:41] family homeowners. So we just humbly ask
[10:43] that we consider those of us that have
[10:46] been in the committ community for many
[10:48] years and that have tithes in our
[10:50] properties and have worked hard to
[10:52] accumulate the things that we do possess
[10:54] at our properties. So, um I don't know
[10:57] if this is the meeting to discuss it,
[11:00] but at some level, can we consider those
[11:02] of us that have been here for longtime
[11:05] residents and we do accumulate things at
[11:08] our properties that we like to keep and
[11:11] we don't like to be told what to do with
[11:14] it because we work hard to earn these
[11:16] things. So, I just ask that the council
[11:18] keep us in mind as we move forward with
[11:20] the things that we propose and impose on
[11:23] those of us taxpaying citizens that have
[11:26] been here for almost 50 years now. Thank
[11:29] you.
[11:30] >> Thank you. Always good to see you here.
[11:32] >> Likewise.
[11:35] » Anyone else? Last call for public
[11:37] comments.
[11:44] » Good evening. Brandy Ramirez, 2231
[11:46] Southeast First Street. Um, I just
[11:49] wanted to piggyback in regards to I
[11:51] think there's an item that you'll be
[11:52] discussing today in regards to boats in the yard or association. Um, and just
[11:59] like she mentioned, a lot of people work
[12:00] hard for items that they have. So, just
[12:02] take us into consideration making those
[12:04] type of decisions. But I also just
[12:06] wanted to come and share. Um, I do
[12:09] notice uh some community uh residents
[12:12] mentioning code enforcement going into
[12:14] gated communities and that they're
[12:16] having some issues or concerns um about
[12:19] that. But I wanted to share that as a
[12:21] resident that lives in a gated
[12:23] community, I had a very positive um
[12:25] interaction uh with code enforcement and
[12:28] a positive interaction with the
[12:30] permitting department, the building
[12:31] department. So, I wanted to thank um
[12:34] code enforcement, the director and the
[12:36] manager for taking the time uh to
[12:39] explain me the proper, you know,
[12:42] procedures and and the process to go
[12:44] through it to make sure we correct um
[12:47] some permitting um concerns and then the
[12:50] building um uh department and the
[12:52] permitting uh Nora has been great. Um
[12:55] I'm looking forward to working with the
[12:57] other building people to to complete.
[12:59] I've already completed one and in the
[13:01] process of finishing the other one. So,
[13:03] I think we should as residents, it's not
[13:06] always negative or complaints, but to
[13:08] also praise the different departments
[13:11] when they're doing their best to assist
[13:12] us as residents. So, just wanted to
[13:14] share that and I look forward to seeing
[13:16] the different things that you guys
[13:17] continue to do in the city. Thank you.
[13:22] >> Again, last call for public comments.
[13:30] We'll get you to the microphone one way
[13:32] or the other tonight. Pastor Styles,
[13:34] >> good evening. Uh I do apologize for my
[13:36] tardiness. Um however, uh two one
[13:40] concern, two concerns. Um the light that
[13:43] is at US1 and I want to say where
[13:48] I guess that's Domino's or the peace
[13:50] places. It needs a turning signal. That
[13:53] is one reason why I'm late. I sat to
[13:55] that like 25 minutes, but people can't
[13:58] get to make a left-hand turn to get onto
[14:01] US1 or come straight to come into city
[14:03] hall. It's very confusing. Um especially
[14:07] when you got to zoom around and then
[14:08] you're scared that whoever's going to
[14:09] turn left going back north of ESUS1 or
[14:14] who's going to turn south to go back
[14:15] south towards Florida City, it's going
[14:17] to be accidents there if there has not
[14:19] been many accidents there. And every
[14:22] time, no matter how early I leave from
[14:24] the east side, it still takes 25 minutes
[14:27] to get through just that one light.
[14:32] Second, uh the road that is being torn
[14:36] up, I think I've said this a number of
[14:39] times, uh right in front of the
[14:41] hospital. Uh I have personally had to
[14:45] have my vehicle realigned four times
[14:49] because of the water line that they've
[14:51] dug up to be able to tap into the big
[14:54] development that's right there in front
[14:56] of Publix.
[14:57] It is a safety hazard. It is a great
[15:02] safety hazard. I do want to say thanks
[15:04] to the city for correcting the deep
[15:07] potholes that have been had two flat
[15:09] tires by a racetrack.
[15:11] So, it is an ongoing um an ongoing
[15:16] building project, but it is a nuisance
[15:19] to road hazards as well. So, those are
[15:21] only two things and I do apologize about
[15:23] my targets.
[15:25] >> Thank you, pastor.
[15:27] >> Okay, we have one online. Okay, let's
[15:31] hear who's on the line. I bet I know.
[15:34] >> Uh Anivo Garcia. Oh,
[15:36] >> okay. No,
[15:38] please go ahead.
[15:44] » If you're on the line, go ahead if you
[15:45] can hear us.
[15:53] » There you go.
[15:54] >> There we go. Can you hear me?
[15:56] >> We can. Yes. Thank you.
[15:58] >> Okay. My my name is Aniva Garcia and I
[16:01] am here today on behalf of the Florida
[16:03] Department of Health in Miami Dade
[16:05] County tobacco prevention and control
[16:07] program in support of the smoke-free
[16:10] parks ordinance before you today. Uh
[16:13] this ordinance is important because it
[16:15] protects our youth and preserves the
[16:17] environment within the city of
[16:18] Homestead's park system. And we know
[16:21] that youth vaping continues to rise and
[16:24] many young people mistakenly believe
[16:26] that vaping is safe when in reality
[16:28] these products contain nicotine which
[16:30] can harm brain development and lead to
[16:33] lifelong addiction which we all know.
[16:35] When smoking or vaping is uh visible in
[16:38] parks, spaces designed for families and
[16:41] recreation, it normalizes that behavior.
[16:44] And passing this ordinance helps shift
[16:47] that norm and sends a clear message that
[16:50] our parks are places for health, not
[16:53] harm. Uh there is also a growing
[16:55] environmental concern. Disposable vapes
[16:57] are made of plastic and contain lithium
[17:00] ion batteries which when left behind
[17:02] they become hazardous waste leaking
[17:05] chemicals into our soil and waterways
[17:07] and posting potential uh fire risk fire
[17:11] risk uh especially in our South Florida
[17:13] climate. So this is in addition to
[17:15] cigarette litter which already impacts
[17:18] the cleanliness and safety of our parks
[17:20] as well. Uh this ordinance is not about
[17:22] punishment. It is about prevention. And
[17:25] with proper signage and community
[17:27] education, smoke-free park policies are
[17:29] highly effective and voluntary
[17:31] compliance. They reduce exposure,
[17:33] decrease litter, and they create a
[17:35] safer, cleaner environments for
[17:37] everyone, including our youth. By
[17:39] passing this ordinance, the city of
[17:41] Homestead is taking a proactive step to
[17:43] protect its youth, support public
[17:45] health, and safeguard its natural
[17:47] spaces. I respectfully urge you to
[17:50] support this ordinance. Thank you.
[17:52] >> Thank you. Thank you for calling in. We
[17:54] appreciate your input. Very, very
[17:56] important and uh informative. So, thank
[17:58] you again.
[18:00] Is there anyone else online?
[18:03] >> Okay.
[18:05] All right. Um we have a lot of lengthy
[18:08] presentations tonight and a very long
[18:10] agenda. So, if I could have the
[18:14] opportunity, I have a couple of
[18:15] appointments I'd like to make. I think
[18:17] one of them, one of the potential
[18:19] appointees are here. I think Councilman
[18:21] Davis, former Councilman Davis is under
[18:23] the weather, is not able to join us. But
[18:26] if I could go ahead and uh get your
[18:30] voice boat vote confirming uh the
[18:33] appointment of Natasha Alivera and Tom
[18:36] Davis to fill the two vacancies by
[18:39] virtue of term expiration to the
[18:41] Homestead Housing Authority. There any
[18:44] objections?
[18:46] All in favor?
[18:47] >> I. Thank you all. All right. We are very
[18:51] fortunate this evening to have uh us
[18:55] company in our people's house.
[18:59] I like to call her our third
[19:00] commissioner. I don't think she likes me
[19:02] to say that publicly, but but I have to.
[19:05] But our very own Miami Dade County
[19:07] Commissioner, District 7, Raquel
[19:09] Regalado. Welcome and thank you.
[19:17] Well, there are three commissioners that
[19:19] represent South Date and I am one of
[19:20] them. So, there you have it. Right. Um,
[19:23] first and foremost, it's always such a
[19:24] pleasure to be here with you all in
[19:26] Homestead. You're doing such amazing
[19:28] work. As many of you know, uh, I am the
[19:31] county commissioner of District 7. I was
[19:33] a school board member before, but here
[19:35] I'm really in here in my capacity as the
[19:38] proud mother of two neurode divergent
[19:40] adults. I want to thank all of you for
[19:42] raising the flag. It was such a
[19:44] beautiful event to have our families
[19:46] come out. Um, and this year my roll out
[19:50] has been a little bit different. Um,
[19:52] what I did was capture the body of work.
[19:55] Um, I've done a lot of things in Miami
[19:57] date county as pilots trying to prove a
[20:00] concept and that's what I want to share
[20:02] with with all of you and with all of
[20:05] Florida for that matter. So, uh, what I
[20:07] launched, uh, on April 2nd is the
[20:09] Florida Neuroincclusion Toolkit. So,
[20:13] it's actually a collection of all the
[20:15] legislation, the data, and everything
[20:18] that we've been doing over the last 10
[20:20] years. Um, just generally to explain why
[20:24] neurodeiversity and not autism. Um,
[20:27] neurodeiversity just includes a lot more
[20:29] humans. My both of my children are in
[20:31] the autism spectrum, but a lot of
[20:33] autistic individuals are diagnosed with
[20:36] another um another uh neurode divergent
[20:40] symptom. And in the case of my daughter
[20:42] when she was an adolescent, even though
[20:44] she had been diagnosed um in the
[20:46] spectrum, she was also diagnosed with
[20:48] ADHD. So she has ADHD. And there are a
[20:51] lot of autistic children and adults that
[20:54] are autistic with dyslexia, autistic
[20:56] with epilepsy. It's actually very common
[20:59] for neurodeiversity to ride together is
[21:01] what we call it. So when we talk about
[21:04] autism, right now we're at one in 31 um
[21:08] in terms of the diagnosis, but when we
[21:10] talk about neurodeiversity, we're
[21:12] actually one in five because there's
[21:15] that many people. Uh and I say it
[21:18] because um neurodeiversity includes
[21:20] dyslexia, epilepsy, ADHD, autism,
[21:24] Tourette's. It also includes at the very
[21:27] top people who suffer from traumatic
[21:28] brain injury and become neurodeiverse as
[21:31] a result of that. And then on the other
[21:33] side of the spectrum we have
[21:35] neurological decline. So the first ones
[21:38] that I mentioned were neurological
[21:39] delay. So they get better with time. But
[21:42] then we have neurological decline which
[21:43] is dementia and Alzheimer's. And a lot
[21:46] of the work that we do for autism
[21:49] actually fits everybody in the entire
[21:52] spectrum. So I think that once you put
[21:54] it in that perspective, you start seeing
[21:56] that these are not outliers and it's not
[21:58] just about April and October. Uh but
[22:00] it's really about providing an entry
[22:03] point u for individuals when we talk
[22:06] about government. So, um, I used to be
[22:09] at the school board and I love talking
[22:11] about ed, but when I got to the county,
[22:13] I did, um, some research with Urban
[22:15] Impact Lab. Uh, specifically, we were
[22:18] dealing with employment for people with
[22:19] disabilities. And what we found is that
[22:22] the biggest obstacles were not at the
[22:25] employment side or not at the education
[22:27] side. It was the transportation. It was
[22:31] access to an ID. It was being arrested
[22:34] or bakered. These are all government
[22:36] functions that we actually have the
[22:39] domain over. So people could do as much
[22:41] as they want on the ed side and on the
[22:43] employment side, but if we don't push
[22:46] through those barriers, then they never
[22:48] even get to that opportunity. So that's
[22:50] what the toolkit does. Uh the idea is uh
[22:54] for people to replicate it. It has all
[22:56] of the data, you know, what we've
[22:58] tracked, what we've done. As many of you
[23:00] know, my first item at the at Miami date
[23:03] county was um training for all of our
[23:05] departments. In the toolkit, it says
[23:07] that we've trained uh 2,120
[23:10] uh first responders. Um, that's because
[23:13] that was the last report and I wanted to
[23:15] mention the report, but as of today,
[23:17] we've trained 4,125
[23:19] first responders in Miami date county in
[23:22] person, actually meeting autistic adults
[23:25] and hearing from those autistic adults,
[23:28] what that interaction felt like. So, not
[23:31] a video, not a tutorial, but actually
[23:34] meeting them and speaking with them and
[23:36] understanding from them and from their
[23:37] caregivers what that interaction looks
[23:40] like. And that has reduced the baker,
[23:42] that has reduced unnecessary arrest, and
[23:44] it has really changed the dynamic of our
[23:47] um police and fire as they enter uh into
[23:50] people's homes. The sheriff has been
[23:52] very supportive. Um when the when the
[23:56] police was under the county, I launched
[23:58] uh the decal, which is the occupant with
[24:00] autism decal that's available to
[24:02] everyone all over the county. um and it
[24:04] goes into your 911 system just like our
[24:06] 911 system and that allows you to
[24:09] register and to put the actual
[24:11] information of deescalation for that
[24:13] person. So for example, my daughter
[24:15] Isabella is very different from my son
[24:18] Sebastian. When I registered both of
[24:20] them, I put Bella her deescalation,
[24:22] Sebastian his deescalation, right?
[24:24] They're two very different people and
[24:26] how you would approach them at a point
[24:28] of crisis is very different. Um the
[24:31] sheriff uh this April added to the home
[24:34] registration
[24:36] um a vehicle registration. So now you
[24:39] can register your vehicle and you can
[24:40] say there might be a neurode divergent
[24:42] person in this vehicle so that when the
[24:44] police officer or fire pulls up your tag
[24:47] now they're on alert and they can see
[24:48] that same information. So it's so
[24:52] important to do training. Um at the
[24:54] county we've trained everyone in our
[24:55] parks department, everyone in our
[24:57] libraries. All 50 of our libraries not
[24:59] only have training, they have social
[25:01] stories, they have sensory kits, they
[25:03] have sensory activities, the larger ones
[25:05] have sensory rooms. And we've really
[25:07] opened up those public spaces um for our
[25:10] residents and it's wonderful to see them
[25:12] finally coming into those spaces because
[25:15] most of our families just stay home and
[25:18] that's why you don't hear from them. But
[25:20] not all of it costs a lot of money. We
[25:22] actually did the training with NSU card
[25:24] which is a resource to everyone. They do
[25:26] it for the cost. they're not making
[25:28] money from from the endeavor and they're
[25:30] a state resource. Um there's seven cards
[25:32] in the state and everyone can um can
[25:34] contact their cards. But a lot of the
[25:37] information that I have in here is
[25:39] simple things. So for the youth fair for
[25:41] example, they worked the first year with
[25:43] NSU card and they started a sensory room
[25:46] and we did a social story. The second
[25:48] year I worked with them and we did a
[25:49] sensory map where you can show um
[25:52] sensory areas and how you could walk the
[25:54] fair a little bit different. And then
[25:56] this year we did sensory hours. So we
[25:58] had sensory hours every Saturday and
[26:00] Sunday from 12:00 to 3. And that was
[26:02] simply turning off the music and turning
[26:04] off the lights. And I will tell you even
[26:06] the neurotypical people loved it.
[26:09] Everyone really liked it at a lower
[26:11] pace. And that as I mentioned is really
[26:13] important for all neurodeiverse people.
[26:16] So back to um Alzheimer's and dementia,
[26:19] most people think that the first sign of
[26:21] that is actually is forgetfulness. That
[26:23] is not the case. The first sign of
[26:26] neurological decline is sensory
[26:28] overload. 89% of people who have
[26:31] dementia and Alzheimer's, that is the
[26:33] first sign. They have issues with lights
[26:35] and sounds and textures in the same way
[26:38] that autistic people do and other
[26:40] neurodeiverse people do. So, um, at our
[26:43] airport, we actually and at all of our
[26:45] transit stations, we have the sunflower
[26:47] lanyard. Um, so you can get it from me,
[26:49] you can get it from the airport, you can
[26:50] sign up and get it yourself. Uh but this
[26:53] is a lanyard that we use nationally uh
[26:56] to denote invisible disabilities and
[26:59] this you know it comes with a training
[27:01] and that way everyone knows that that
[27:02] person may need some extra help. The
[27:05] same thing um with the work that we're
[27:07] doing with the decal uh and the sheriff.
[27:10] I'm actually having an event uh at
[27:12] Betham this Saturday where the sheriff
[27:14] is going to be there and the tax
[27:16] collector and we're going to be doing
[27:17] the registrations there for everyone.
[27:20] The tax collector partnered with us
[27:21] through this last year and we
[27:23] established neuroincclusion days. So in
[27:26] the state of Florida, you can have um a
[27:29] state ID starting at 5 years old. Two
[27:31] years ago, they changed the law that
[27:33] allows you to place your disability
[27:36] voluntarily on your state ID. That means
[27:39] that if you have a six-year-old, an
[27:40] eight-year-old, an 18-year-old, a 22
[27:42] year old that's in the spectrum, they
[27:44] can have a Florida issued ID that has
[27:46] their picture and has their disability
[27:49] and will serve as evidence of that
[27:52] disability. We have a lot of parents
[27:54] walking around with a diagnosis from
[27:55] 2003 and a birth certificate because
[27:58] since their child doesn't drive, they
[28:00] haven't gotten a license. But without an
[28:03] ID, they are at risk. without an ID,
[28:05] they can't volunteer, they can't work,
[28:07] and they can't even prove their
[28:09] identity. So, we're really pushing the
[28:11] IDs, getting parents to understand that
[28:13] whether they want to put the disability
[28:15] on there or not, this is a tool that
[28:17] they need specifically to travel. At
[28:20] MIA, we have an amazing program that's
[28:22] available to all Miami Day County
[28:23] residents. It's called MIA Air. It's a
[28:26] dress rehearsal where we take the kids
[28:29] uh through the entire experience with
[28:30] their caregivers. So, they get to the
[28:32] airport, they get their boarding pass,
[28:34] they go through TSA, we sign them up for
[28:36] CSA Cares, they board the plane, they
[28:38] meet the pilot, and then we go buy them
[28:40] Chick-fil-A. Who doesn't like
[28:41] Chick-fil-A? Uh, and we show them the
[28:44] sensory rooms, but it allows them to
[28:46] walk through the experience so that when
[28:48] they go for real on a trip, they don't
[28:51] have a meltdown because they've never
[28:52] been there. It comes with a social story
[28:54] in English and in Spanish and we're with
[28:56] them the entire time and we take their
[28:58] teachers with them in order to make the
[29:00] experience a pleasant one. So those are
[29:02] some of the things uh that we've been
[29:04] doing uh in Miami Day that's in the
[29:06] toolkit. Um the other thing that's in
[29:08] the toolkit is the use of April and
[29:10] October as really goal setting moments
[29:14] and looking at what we're doing in our
[29:16] communities. So, we have April, which is
[29:19] obviously um autism acceptance, and we
[29:21] talk about what we've done. But October
[29:23] is disability employment, and we really
[29:26] focus on opening opportunities there at
[29:28] the county, what I've asked the county
[29:30] to do is to um change the way that they
[29:33] hire. So instead of putting on LinkedIn
[29:35] that you want someone um that has good
[29:38] communication skills, an autistic person
[29:41] will never apply for that. Um to allow
[29:44] people to come in and rather than
[29:46] focusing on eye contact and them talking
[29:48] to you, to actually let them do the
[29:50] work. Let them do the work, especially
[29:52] if it's in the area of tech, and let the
[29:55] work speak for itself and not hold them
[29:57] to a very neurotypical standard of
[29:59] hiring so that they can have an
[30:01] opportunity. I've also opened up our
[30:03] internships so that we have to you know
[30:05] interview neurode diverent people and
[30:06] give them those opportunities. And
[30:08] finally um also in the toolkit is our
[30:11] zero drowning initiative which is a
[30:13] countywide initiative that I know you
[30:15] guys know about. Um I changed it to
[30:17] include uh neurodeiverse individuals
[30:20] specifically autistic children and
[30:22] adults because irrespective of age the
[30:24] number one cause of death for autistic
[30:26] people is drowning irrespective of age.
[30:29] Um, and that is because water is a form
[30:31] of sensory relief. They seek water, they
[30:34] run to water, and if they do not know
[30:37] how to swim, many of them drown. So,
[30:39] it's been um a priority for me and for
[30:43] the children's trucks to provide folks
[30:45] with as much information about the need
[30:48] to teach um individuals in the spectrum
[30:50] how to swim um and how long-term it
[30:54] really is a wonderful uh commitment and
[30:57] endeavor. Um, so with that, I'm here to
[30:59] answer any and all questions that you
[31:00] may have. There's a lot more in the
[31:02] toolkit. It was emailed to you. Um, and
[31:05] also I have the QR codes here so that
[31:08] you can check it out. It has um, the
[31:11] legislation, social stories, how to do
[31:13] all these things, how to do sensory
[31:15] events, and I'm happy to help um, you
[31:18] navigate all of that because the last
[31:19] thing I want you to do is use your
[31:21] resources of getting a consultant. Just
[31:23] give me a call and we could do it
[31:25] together. you've been such wonderful
[31:27] partners and there's such a need in the
[31:29] south to talk more specifically about
[31:32] neurodeiversity.
[31:38] Thank you so much commissioner for being
[31:40] here tonight and for sharing this very
[31:42] valuable information and I do hope that
[31:44] we can be advocates to continue the
[31:46] messaging and to incorporate a lot of
[31:48] the tools that you're mentioning into
[31:50] our process um improvement plans for the
[31:52] future. I do have a question regarding
[31:54] the uh police department's access for
[31:56] the vehicle registration at the county
[31:58] level. Is that automatically generating
[32:00] for our officers?
[32:01] >> Yes.
[32:02] >> Perfect. Yes.
[32:02] >> And then with regards to the trainings
[32:04] that you mentioned, has that already
[32:06] been done? Do we know for for our police
[32:08] department?
[32:09] >> So, we trained our Miami day county
[32:11] police officers,
[32:12] >> right?
[32:13] >> So, I don't know what what you guys are
[32:15] doing and if you've reached out,
[32:17] >> maybe speak to that. Chief, can you
[32:18] speak to that? Yes, we do training
[32:20] yearly and as a matter of fact, as a
[32:22] result of some grant money that we
[32:24] found, we're going to have some autism
[32:25] training coming up, but we do do it
[32:27] every year.
[32:28] >> Thank you for that. I I would love the
[32:30] opportunity for perhaps comparing the
[32:32] training that we've been doing and what
[32:33] we're going to be doing compared to what
[32:34] the county is doing so that we at least
[32:36] are making sure that we're touching all
[32:38] bases and and well-rounded training.
[32:40] >> So, autism training is a state
[32:42] requirement, but it's an unfunded
[32:44] mandate, you know, as as the chief all
[32:45] knows. about. Yes, we you all know about
[32:48] those. Um, so there is a lot out there
[32:52] in terms of um virtual training. Uh, but
[32:56] I'm happy to work with you all and and
[32:57] get card out here. We have some great
[33:00] individuals. One in particular named
[33:01] Kent. He actually lives in Gasapia now.
[33:04] Um, and he comes and talks to the
[33:06] officers about his particular
[33:08] experience. And I will say talking to
[33:11] autistic adults that have been detained,
[33:14] it is really a gamecher. when we talk
[33:16] about deescalation,
[33:18] >> right? And I have not heard that we're
[33:19] doing that kind of one-on-one
[33:20] face-to-face type of engagement. So, I I
[33:22] would love to see that get incorporated
[33:24] with our police department. Um, with
[33:26] regards to inclusivity and inclusion
[33:29] efforts, um, I know that we have at
[33:31] least one page within our parks master
[33:33] plan that speaks to this and I would
[33:36] invite you to maybe review that and
[33:38] offer us your insight and ways that we
[33:40] can maybe improve it and and and expand
[33:42] on that. And I know the parks our parks
[33:44] department, our parks director have done
[33:46] a great job in trying to make sure that
[33:47] as we roll in new playgrounds that we're
[33:50] making this a priority, but the plan
[33:53] itself I think could be beefier and I I
[33:55] would love your um input and guidance on
[33:57] that if that's okay.
[33:58] >> Happy happy to do that and happy to work
[34:00] with your parks department. You know,
[34:01] one of the things that's in the toolkit
[34:03] is how to do social stories for all of
[34:05] your parks. Um so parks usually um have
[34:09] ADA compliance full stop. Um what we've
[34:12] done and we've done it in small parks
[34:15] and and larger parks too at the county
[34:17] is um the placement of things is kind of
[34:21] beyond ADA compliant. So certain swings
[34:24] right the height of different things
[34:26] like what we're choosing. Um I don't
[34:29] think there's like an autism playground
[34:31] but you can make it autism friendly
[34:34] right by your selection of certain
[34:36] things. And then the social stories are
[34:38] very easy. you just take pictures of the
[34:40] park and you put it in a PDF and you put
[34:42] it on the website. That's what we've
[34:44] done um at our uh on our parks and then
[34:47] that allows caregivers to see what's
[34:49] there and to show it to them. That way
[34:52] they'll want to go to the park.
[34:55] >> Right. Thank you. Because if they can
[34:56] visualize it ahead of time, the sensory
[34:58] overload at the time is less
[35:00] >> Exactly. It reduces the anxiety.
[35:02] >> Right. And I certainly can appreciate
[35:04] your sunflower um branding on I don't
[35:07] know who came up with that idea, but
[35:08] many here know that I love sunflowers
[35:11] and being in a city where we used to
[35:13] have fields and fields of sunflowers
[35:15] iconic for us and now that's sadly gone
[35:18] away. Uh maybe this is a good time to
[35:20] announce I'm working on a resolution to
[35:21] bring for council consideration making
[35:24] us the sunflower city and potentially
[35:26] rolling that into some of our
[35:27] landscaping initiatives. But I love the uh parallel messaging that we are,
[35:33] you know, we see our autistic families
[35:35] and that we are being as inclusive as we
[35:37] can with respect to making our
[35:39] playgrounds, our police departments, our
[35:41] process improvements, IDs, jobs, etc. a
[35:46] focus priority for for those families.
[35:48] And I think you'll be happy to hear that
[35:50] we did uh roll out a zero drownings
[35:52] initiative program. Yes. with the
[35:54] Children's Trust, which it's not just
[35:56] learning how to swim, but surviving in
[35:58] those environments at a very young age.
[35:59] So, we hope that that mitigates a lot of
[36:02] those um unfortunate deaths. But again,
[36:04] thank you.
[36:05] >> Thank you.
[36:06] >> Hey, Vice Mayor.
[36:08] >> Thank you, Mayor. Definitely. Thank you
[36:10] very much. And you didn't mention um
[36:12] Councilwoman Navila sponsored a portion
[36:14] of ArtWalk this year to have things that
[36:17] were um you know sensory specific for some of our guests that had special
[36:23] needs. So headphones and just different
[36:26] um sensory type uh toys. So we are
[36:29] working on it. One thing that came to
[36:31] mind as you were talking um an idea for
[36:34] the parks. I know that a lot of our
[36:35] special needs um kids and even adults
[36:38] going to parks have headphones. Maybe
[36:40] there's an there's something to do with
[36:42] a QR code that would have some type of
[36:46] um anxiety reducing sounds or something
[36:49] that they might be able to I don't know
[36:52] learn about the park and drown out
[36:54] noises around them.
[36:56] >> So, so we have sensory kits and we have
[36:59] them at libraries and at parks. Um and
[37:01] then also museums that have autism
[37:03] friendly designation have them. Um we
[37:06] also have uh we have um earbuds because
[37:11] depending on the age some of them may
[37:13] not want the headphones. So it's like
[37:15] some very little ones and some very
[37:17] older ones don't want it. So we try to
[37:19] give them those those options. And then
[37:21] in the social stories we also to your
[37:24] point um vice mayor we call out if
[37:27] there's noise. So for example have a
[37:30] beautiful park named Ronan. There's
[37:32] tennis there. So, we're like, "And by
[37:34] the way, these are the tennis courts
[37:36] next to the park, right?" So, we we you
[37:39] know, we give them that information. We
[37:41] have another uh beautiful park in my
[37:43] district that's next to the library.
[37:44] It's a very small park, but we went out
[37:46] of the way um to make it an ADA park um
[37:50] that's right next to the library because
[37:51] of its location. It didn't have like a
[37:54] lot of noise and a lot of movement. So
[37:56] we're focusing on the more passive ones
[37:58] and kind of leading with those and
[38:00] letting parents know that there may be
[38:01] activity in these other in these other
[38:04] parks because sometimes things are just
[38:05] colllocated
[38:07] >> and and there's not much choice. No, I
[38:09] really appreciate all the uh all the
[38:12] headway that you're making. Keep us
[38:14] continuously in the loop so that we can
[38:16] keep working for our um our residents as
[38:19] well. uh one of my favorite preschool
[38:21] students who's now 15 was non-verbal for
[38:23] many years and he's coming tomorrow to
[38:26] read to the kids which is his like new
[38:28] favorite thing is to read to children.
[38:29] Amazing, amazing, amazing. And I and I
[38:32] know you appreciate this, you know, vice
[38:34] mayor because we've talked about it. You
[38:36] know, one of the things that I have and I mentioned it in the toolkit and
[38:39] that's more of an October thing than an
[38:41] April thing is the need to have adult
[38:43] programming. As many of you know, the
[38:45] world ends at 22 and I've really focused
[38:47] on getting people to understand why we
[38:50] need adult programming and how you can
[38:52] colllocate adult programming with
[38:55] individuals that have memory issues. The
[38:58] two communities go very well together.
[39:01] Autistic adults and individuals older
[39:04] individuals that have dementia and
[39:05] Alzheimer's, a lot of the therapies are
[39:07] identical and they usually get along
[39:10] very well. So, a as you look at finding
[39:14] those places, I just want you to
[39:17] consider that our health system was
[39:20] built for elderly people. And what
[39:23] happens after 22 is if you're lucky to
[39:26] have medwaver, someone goes home with
[39:28] you. So we literally graduate our
[39:31] children to the couch. And when we talk
[39:34] about that, everyone's like, "Oh, that's
[39:35] great. You get to watch YouTube. You get
[39:36] to go home." That's fine if you're an
[39:38] elderly person and you're you're the the
[39:42] rest of your life is 7 8 10 11 years.
[39:45] Not when we're sending you home for 50,
[39:48] 65 years. That's what we're doing. Um,
[39:51] and I know that's a little jarring to
[39:53] people when I say it, but it's important
[39:55] because once once we let them go home,
[39:58] it's very hard to get them to go to a
[40:01] program. And that's why I think as a
[40:03] community, we have to start having more
[40:04] events and we have to start talking
[40:06] about adult programming and the benefit
[40:08] of adult programming. I have two
[40:10] children that are very different. One
[40:12] needs less resources um, and was able to
[40:15] attend a program that I helped create at
[40:17] Miami Dade Community College. My
[40:20] daughter needs a lot more resources and
[40:21] a lot more care. Um, he can work with
[40:25] supports. She cannot right now, but she
[40:28] makes jewelry and she gives it away, you
[40:30] know, to the people that go to her adult
[40:32] daycare and she'll tell you that that's
[40:34] her job and and she had she's in
[40:37] vocational training and I think in five
[40:39] or six years she will be able to do some
[40:42] volunteer work. It's a developmental
[40:44] delay. She's 22. Um, but it's a
[40:47] developmental delay. I don't I I can't
[40:50] tell you that she'll never work because
[40:51] I don't think that that's the reality.
[40:53] Much like your your visitor in the next
[40:55] two days, my daughter was non-verbal and
[40:57] I was told that she wouldn't even be
[40:58] able to feed herself and she graduated
[41:00] from a culinary program. So, so much can
[41:03] be done, you know, for these
[41:05] individuals. We just have to give them
[41:06] an opportunity. Um, they just think
[41:09] differently and they experience the
[41:11] world differently. And that's why I
[41:14] really wanted to make it about
[41:15] neuroincclusion because we have to focus
[41:18] on their abilities. They want to work.
[41:20] They want to be part of our society.
[41:22] When my son was working, you know, we
[41:24] talk about the issues that we have with
[41:25] employment and retention and how
[41:27] everybody read the 4-hour work week and
[41:28] it went to their head, a 4-day work week
[41:31] and it went to their head. Um, but my
[41:33] son was upset that there was no work on
[41:35] Labor Day. He wanted to work on Labor
[41:37] Day. He didn't understand why we would
[41:38] take a Monday off. Um, they're amazing
[41:41] workers. They have a Puritan work ethic.
[41:44] They're so excited to be here and to be
[41:47] involved and to be part of community.
[41:50] Um, so if if I have one ask is that as a
[41:54] community we stop graduating them to the
[41:56] couch because they're amazing humans and
[41:58] it's going to be a lot more complicated
[42:00] 10 15 years from now when we have this
[42:03] ever growing population um that is at
[42:06] home with a with a health care aid that
[42:09] really cannot provide for them. And we
[42:11] know that their mental health declines,
[42:12] that their health declines, and that it
[42:14] just spirals into a lot of different
[42:17] issues uh for all of us.
[42:21] » Again, thank you for coming down. And as
[42:23] promised, we've already added your flag
[42:25] to our display back here.
[42:27] >> Thank you.
[42:28] >> It's not not hot air.
[42:30] >> Yes.
[42:31] >> Yeah. I want to say something. Of
[42:33] course.
[42:33] >> Yeah. I want to thank you for being
[42:34] here. Okay. And I want to congratulation
[42:37] in this toolkit. The neuro inclusion
[42:39] toolkit is amazing. I think it's a
[42:41] proactive tool. Okay. That can avoid a
[42:44] lot of things bad things happening to
[42:46] these to these kids. So, thank you for
[42:49] that. Okay.
[42:50] >> Thank you. Thank you so much.
[42:52] >> Before you take off, we're going to
[42:54] deviate from the agenda just a little
[42:56] bit.
[42:57] >> Uh colleagues, we have in front of us a resolution regarding
[43:02] >> the conveyance of a county parcel to the
[43:05] city. It should be laying here
[43:08] somewhere. It's that uh Thank you. It's
[43:11] a property that the county has declared
[43:13] surplus that we have requested be and
[43:17] it's part of the county parks
[43:18] department. It's vacant property
[43:21] surrounded by thousands of units. Um for
[43:25] frame of reference, Miss Ramirez, it's
[43:27] the 10 acres immediately south of of
[43:30] your neighborhood.
[43:32] Um, so this has been an initiative by
[43:35] Councilman Cannibal working with our our
[43:37] city manager. So, Mr. Pearl, if if you
[43:40] would read that resolution by title
[43:45] » have the paper copy in front of me.
[43:46] Nobody put it on my
[43:49] >> He needs a Josh has got it.
[43:54] >> We're going to do this. She's here.
[43:56] should have.
[43:58] >> Uh, this is a resolution of the city
[43:59] council of the city of Homestead,
[44:00] Florida, requesting Miami Dade County to
[44:02] convey certain county-owned property
[44:04] identified by folio number
[44:06] 10-7917-001-0580
[44:11] to the city of Homestead for public park
[44:12] purposes, authorizing the city manager
[44:14] to accept the property on behalf of the
[44:16] city and take any action necessary to
[44:18] effectuate the transfer, providing for
[44:20] implementation, providing for transmitt,
[44:22] and providing for an effective date.
[44:24] >> Thank you, Mr. Manager, anything to add?
[44:27] >> Uh, nothing much other than that. Uh,
[44:29] >> do you have this
[44:29] >> commissioner? Welcome. We've already met
[44:32] with county staff regarding this uh
[44:34] potential conveyance. County staff is
[44:37] very excit excited and they want to work
[44:39] with us. Hopefully by before you go on
[44:43] vacation in August, they promised us
[44:45] that there's going to be traction on
[44:46] this. So, we're hoping to expedite the
[44:48] process. We this afternoon I believe we
[44:51] transmitted all the checklists that they
[44:53] had requested with additional uh
[44:54] materials.
[44:56] >> So we are soliciting for your
[44:58] cooperation, your support in making this
[45:00] possible. Of
[45:01] >> course I'll talk to Christina about it.
[45:02] Happy to do it.
[45:03] >> Thank you. Appreciate that. Councilman
[45:05] Cannibal. It's in the heart of your your
[45:06] district. I know you've worked hard with
[45:08] other commissioners and our manager to
[45:10] get us to the point where we are now. So
[45:13] if I could have a motion to adopt this
[45:15] resolution. Yes.
[45:16] >> I do have some questions. Uh if there's
[45:18] a motion you want to make it, I'll
[45:19] second it. But then I do have some
[45:20] questions.
[45:20] >> Moved by Cannibal, seconded by Avala.
[45:23] >> Thank you. I do have some questions on
[45:24] this. I would like for this to come back
[45:26] to us for final uh acceptance once we
[45:28] know that it's not mitigation land and
[45:30] that we can also make sure that it's
[45:32] deed restricted in perpetuity for a
[45:35] park. So that's something that I want to
[45:36] make sure that if we're receiving it and
[45:38] that we're going to have it that it's
[45:39] going to be a park 100%. So that's my
[45:43] condition on the second. Thank you.
[45:44] >> And typically that's built into the
[45:46] conveyance. It's It's
[45:47] >> not It's not in this.
[45:49] >> It's titled in the parks department now.
[45:50] >> Could be. I would hope so. Yes,
[45:52] >> I would. No. At the county.
[45:54] >> I would I would hope so. Yes,
[45:57] >> Mr. Mayor.
[45:57] >> Yes.
[45:58] >> I'm sorry. Just procedural very quickly.
[46:00] We didn't add this to the agenda at the
[46:02] beginning of the meeting. Can I have a
[46:03] motion to add the to the agenda
[46:06] >> and then take a vote for adoption?
[46:08] >> I'll move to add to the So, it's moved
[46:10] by Canal, second by Avala to add this
[46:12] item to the agenda.
[46:14] >> All in favor?
[46:15] >> Mr. Ma'am, before you approve the
[46:17] amended agenda, I want to delete tab 29
[46:21] car number 4973.
[46:24] Vice mayor's permission, we're
[46:26] withdrawing that item from the agenda.
[46:28] >> Oh, okay. All right. So, do we need two
[46:31] separate votes to add one and delete
[46:32] another?
[46:33] >> We can take them together as to accept
[46:35] the amended agenda. going to add the
[46:38] request for the conveyance to the agenda
[46:41] and and defer or delete for tonight tab
[46:45] 29 with respect to that's the uh
[46:47] certificate of use item
[46:49] >> is that
[46:50] >> no
[46:51] >> it's a fee waiver
[46:53] >> that's a fee waver
[46:54] >> oh that's right
[46:55] >> it was before the education committee
[46:57] came
[46:57] >> gotcha okay
[46:58] >> to be so moved
[46:59] >> very good so all in favor of that
[47:01] addition and the deletion I any opposed
[47:05] all right so Now,
[47:07] um, we're going to vote on the
[47:11] resolution requesting the conveyance for
[47:13] park purposes.
[47:14] >> Can we restate the motion?
[47:17] >> Right now, the motion as made was just
[47:19] to adopt the resolution. If you'd like
[47:20] to make a motion to amend to stipulate
[47:22] that it needs to be come back to you for
[47:25] review, then we can do that. Or we can
[47:27] you can amend the motion to provide that
[47:30] we'll accept it as long as it's deeded
[47:33] as um restrict it has includes a deed
[47:36] restriction for park for park purposes.
[47:39] So you can you can make a motion to
[47:41] amend
[47:42] >> and mitigation free
[47:44] >> and that it it's not wetland if that's
[47:46] >> well that would be part of our due
[47:47] diligence before we accepted it.
[47:49] >> So
[47:49] >> but the resolution isn't specific to
[47:51] that. So the motion has to be specific
[47:53] to that in my in my opinion. But
[47:55] >> okay.
[47:56] >> So if you want to make the what I'm
[47:57] hearing is we'll accept it.
[47:59] >> You accept those amendments council and
[48:00] cannibal.
[48:01] >> Yes.
[48:02] >> So contingent on it not being wetland
[48:04] property and that it is also comes with
[48:07] a deed restriction that is for park
[48:10] purposes.
[48:10] >> All right. So the maker of the motion
[48:13] has accepted that the request of the
[48:16] person who seconded the motion. No, he
[48:19] accepted it. We're good. All right. So,
[48:22] let's have a roll call vote on this
[48:24] resolution.
[48:24] >> Councilman Cannibal.
[48:26] >> Councilwoman Abula?
[48:27] >> Yes.
[48:28] >> Councilwoman Ksky?
[48:29] >> Yes.
[48:30] >> Councilman Fletcher?
[48:31] >> Yes.
[48:31] >> Councilman Raw?
[48:32] >> Yes.
[48:33] >> Vice Mayor Bailey? Yes.
[48:34] >> Mayor Losner?
[48:35] >> Yes.
[48:36] >> The motion carries.
[48:37] >> All right. Thank you.
[48:38] >> I will talk to the director first thing
[48:40] tomorrow.
[48:40] >> Thank you. It's always a pleasure.
[48:43] >> All right. So, let's get focused again.
[48:46] I think that takes us now to uh one hour
[48:49] in to tab uh to tab two.
[48:53] This is a a presentation or is there a
[48:56] resolution that goes to the
[48:57] presentation?
[49:11] » Mayor, if I may while we're taking a
[49:13] little break. While they're setting up a
[49:15] presentation,
[49:16] >> just for um city manager's office with
[49:19] regards to my end of the year VIP
[49:21] Christmas party that I held, I would
[49:23] like to expand on that and perhaps um
[49:26] work in some additional programming
[49:28] throughout the year that we can um on
[49:31] the basis of what we heard today and the
[49:33] toolkit and whatnot. Let's see if we can
[49:34] get that going sooner than later.
[49:37] >> Actually, I have some very very good
[49:40] suggestion for you. I mentioned at the
[49:42] beginning of the meeting that I have
[49:43] some good news. Uh let me let you take
[49:46] the thunder. Let me let brief you first
[49:48] then you can inform your colleagues.
[49:50] >> Thank you. I appreciate it because I'm
[49:51] also working with um my VIP group to try
[49:54] to have soccer programming and that's
[49:56] you know been a little challenging. So
[49:58] um more to come. Thank you.
[50:01] >> Thank you.
[50:01] >> Okay. Okay. Good afternoon mayor
[50:04] council. I will make this two and a half
[50:07] minutes if possible at the direction of
[50:10] the manager.
[50:11] >> Um the this item is a discussion item
[50:15] and the intent is to provide a brief update to council on uh two
[50:21] primary initiatives that we have um
[50:24] before us. Um, I will categorize it with
[50:29] the America 250 signage that we are uh
[50:32] looking to implement or install at the
[50:36] end of May and will have in place
[50:40] through the end of September. Um, and
[50:42] then we'll talk a little bit about the
[50:44] street banner program that will also be
[50:47] installed uh at the end of May, but will
[50:50] have a much longer uh shelf life um
[50:54] because there are different sequences
[50:56] and or rather seasons and sequences of
[50:59] the banner program.
[51:01] Uh last year, if you recall, council
[51:04] adopted a an America 250 logo in advance
[51:09] of the city um rolling out a year-long
[51:12] campaign for in celebration of the 250th
[51:17] um anniversary of the US. We have um
[51:21] worked with a vendor to dis to develop
[51:24] design concepts for several um banners
[51:29] to be installed at city hall, the
[51:32] exterior of city hall, the interior of
[51:34] the chambers and uh at the police
[51:36] station. And then we we have worked in
[51:39] conjunction with the CRA uh to develop
[51:42] conceptual designs for a street banner
[51:44] program to be implemented citywide.
[51:48] uh before you you have um a proof of
[51:52] concept that we are proposing
[51:56] two banners um to be uh installed again
[52:00] at the end of May in advance of uh
[52:03] Memorial Day on the east and the west
[52:05] entrance of city hall. We are also
[52:09] looking to do uh five banners that uh
[52:13] around the column of the exterior of the
[52:16] city hall building and um half flags uh
[52:22] towards the bottom portion of the what I call the coliseum feature outside
[52:28] of the city hall building.
[52:31] The uh half flags are also going to be
[52:34] installed at the rear of city hall and
[52:39] um right outside of the balcony area.
[52:43] Uh within chambers, uh we're taking the
[52:46] opportunity to enhance chambers a bit by
[52:50] introducing two banners um right behind
[52:54] the deis uh that you're sitting at this
[52:56] time uh with the newly adopted
[53:00] uh city tagline of the future lives
[53:03] here. Um the intent is that this banner
[53:07] can be changed over time um at council's
[53:11] uh requests um to celebrate many
[53:14] different things including November's um
[53:18] uh the national championship uh of
[53:20] coming back to uh Homestead. Right. So
[53:23] it is it is intended to be
[53:25] interchangeable. we would just need to
[53:28] replace the ribbon itself and install it
[53:30] with the hardware that would be uh made
[53:33] permanent.
[53:34] While we are doing this work, we're also
[53:37] proposing um utilize or taking the
[53:40] opportunity to do a little bit of a
[53:43] reconfiguration on the behind the the
[53:45] deis. Uh we're looking to relocate the
[53:49] in God we trust signage. We're looking
[53:51] to make it a little bit bigger as well.
[53:54] Um a a few months ago we adopted the
[53:58] circular logo as the official as the
[54:00] newly official logo of the city. So we
[54:04] are proposing to um install a circular
[54:08] logo in lie of the arch logo that is
[54:11] currently there and the current arch
[54:16] logo that is currently installed uh
[54:19] behind the deis.
[54:21] We are going to look to council to give
[54:23] us some recommendations on what you'd
[54:25] like to have installed in lie of the
[54:28] archway. Um there are some
[54:33] uh designs imperfection if we remove it.
[54:36] So we need to uh find a a method to
[54:40] replace that um replace that that
[54:43] archway uh that we do not see the
[54:46] blemishes that's behind uh the the
[54:48] panel. So that is something that we can
[54:50] workshop with council individually but
[54:53] that is something that we need to work
[54:54] on.
[54:56] Uh before you you'll see the pro
[54:59] proposed banners um installed on the
[55:01] exterior of the police uh building. This
[55:04] is the entrance and then we have two
[55:06] banners that faces uh Lzner Park and the
[55:10] Veterans Memorial.
[55:13] So that is the update on the America 250
[55:16] banner installation.
[55:18] Now we are going to shift uh into the
[55:22] street banner locations. Uh so or rather
[55:25] the street banner program. So the intent
[55:27] here is that we will have um street
[55:31] banners that are that is representative
[55:34] of
[55:36] the city what is happening in the city
[55:39] um the the entertainment offerings in
[55:41] the city um installed citywide. Um there
[55:45] are some that will be dis specific to
[55:48] downtown Homestead and then there are
[55:51] other banner option or concepts that
[55:53] will um live throughout or or rather be
[55:57] installed throughout the city and
[55:58] specifically the major corridors. Uh
[56:01] we're looking to install these banners
[56:03] on um
[56:06] the either decorative poles or uh the
[56:10] light poles that are owned by our HPS
[56:13] energy department.
[56:15] We have also um we've done a ride along.
[56:18] We've identified several corridors where
[56:22] the county owns the street lights and we
[56:24] have already reached out to the county
[56:26] to understand their requirements should
[56:29] we want to attach uh to their polls. Uh
[56:33] the poles that we're proposing for the
[56:35] street banners or rather the banners for
[56:37] the um polls are 48 by 30 and as you see
[56:44] before you there are different concepts
[56:48] that is being presented um what what we
[56:52] the style or the stylistic um approach
[56:56] is the kind of the oneword um
[57:01] uh verb right the action and then having
[57:04] some sort of a visual aid that that is
[57:08] um descriptive of what is happening in
[57:11] the in the in the city or in the area.
[57:14] Um as you'll see before you, you have
[57:17] the downtown Homestead um logo that is a subbrand of the Discover
[57:27] Homestead brand. So we wanted to keep
[57:28] our branding consistent. Um, so that is
[57:31] how you that is what you would see on
[57:33] all of the Downtown Homestead specific
[57:36] um banners.
[57:38] And then we also have uh several
[57:40] concepts um for you know again
[57:44] entertainment e uh eeries um exploring
[57:48] downtown. Um also again the the intent
[57:52] is to encourage um folks to visit uh or or dining options and um
[58:01] utilize the pedestrian opportunities
[58:03] that we are presenting. You also have um
[58:07] again
[58:09] uh different different shots of what visitors residents uh are able to
[58:15] um explore in the downtown area. We have
[58:18] some uh seminal theater shots. We've
[58:22] included, you know, our our standing
[58:25] holiday uh treatments, whether it's the
[58:28] race to the fourth. Uh we have been
[58:30] intentional in incorporating several um
[58:34] agricultural pictures to make sure that
[58:37] we we we ensure we uh remain or keep um
[58:43] the history of uh the city alive. We've
[58:47] also talked or incorporated several of
[58:49] the Everglades,
[58:51] um our the air base, the military
[58:54] branches. We've incorporated the
[58:57] speedway as well as the rodeo. Um and
[59:00] then of course we are also looking ahead
[59:04] at you know the newly improved um
[59:08] uh Chrome Avenue what the
[59:13] PH Sports Hub will look like. And really
[59:16] what I would like to uh point your
[59:19] attention to are these two options which
[59:22] is again the America 250 um banner and
[59:25] the future lives here banner. uh this
[59:28] would be the first as a part of the
[59:30] first deployment. Right? So these two
[59:33] banners would be uh installed in concert
[59:36] with the other banners that you saw
[59:38] earlier. Um we have intentionally
[59:42] switched the America 250 logo to the
[59:46] city um of Homestead logo that we are
[59:49] able to utilize these banners um in
[59:51] future years. Um, and I will from an
[59:56] investment perspective,
[59:58] uh, the improvements to city hall or the
[1:00:00] banners to city hall, the PD building,
[1:00:03] and the interior of chambers, there's a
[1:00:06] fiscal impact of $39,000.
[1:00:09] uh on the street banner program, the
[1:00:12] first push. Uh we have uh several
[1:00:14] funding sources, ARPA, the
[1:00:19] our our CMO communications budget as
[1:00:23] well as the CRA's uh budget for the
[1:00:26] banners for the downtown area. And with
[1:00:29] that, I think I went to three minutes,
[1:00:31] so I apologize, sir. Uh with that, I am
[1:00:34] happy to take any questions and or
[1:00:36] feedback at this time.
[1:00:38] So just to be clear before you want us
[1:00:40] to focus primarily tonight on the
[1:00:44] interior and exterior of city hall
[1:00:46] police station
[1:00:48] and
[1:00:49] >> street banners that are American
[1:00:51] >> the fourth of fourth of July
[1:00:53] >> fourth of July that is correct sir
[1:00:55] >> council counciloman Bailey
[1:00:58] >> I'll kick it off thank you um just a
[1:01:01] couple a couple um comments if you can
[1:01:04] go back to the
[1:01:06] 250 50 related banners. My only comment
[1:01:10] with that is just trying to visualize it
[1:01:13] while you're driving down the street or
[1:01:14] passing by that we might want to take
[1:01:17] more better use of the size and make the
[1:01:19] lettering and the logo larger.
[1:01:21] >> Okay. So, use maybe the similar font to
[1:01:24] the
[1:01:25] >> America. It could be a little smaller,
[1:01:27] but um take advantage and make it pop.
[1:01:31] As far as behind us, I think it looks
[1:01:33] very nice. I don't know what price tag
[1:01:37] removing it and fixing what's behind us,
[1:01:41] but I don't necessarily think we need to
[1:01:43] switch the logos behind us. I love the
[1:01:47] idea of of all these banners and flags,
[1:01:51] but as far as what's behind us, I think
[1:01:53] it looks nice now.
[1:01:54] >> Just throwing that out there.
[1:01:55] >> It does look nice, but personally, I've
[1:01:58] always thought it was too low. the
[1:02:00] former assistant city manager was left
[1:02:02] unsupervised and this was mounted at the
[1:02:05] wrong height. I whoever sits in this
[1:02:07] seat blocks that and we have all the
[1:02:11] dead space
[1:02:12] >> above it. That was the thinking that
[1:02:14] it's really too low and not to scale for
[1:02:18] the wall.
[1:02:19] >> If that's the case,
[1:02:19] >> that that was the thinking.
[1:02:22] >> If that's the case, then great. Um and
[1:02:25] the only thing then which we're not
[1:02:26] talking about yet but the the smaller
[1:02:28] the future lives here banners for me I
[1:02:31] think we have enough to talk about that
[1:02:33] is already happening you know in the
[1:02:35] visioning visioning sessions I think
[1:02:37] that's great but to advertise something
[1:02:39] that's not quite there yet
[1:02:41] >> getting ahead of ourselves and like I
[1:02:44] said I think we have enough that we've
[1:02:46] already done okay
[1:02:47] >> advertise that's all I have thank you
[1:02:51] >> are you talking about these that have
[1:02:53] the tagline line or this stuff. Okay.
[1:02:55] >> Gotcha. I agree.
[1:02:56] >> Not now.
[1:02:57] >> Agreed.
[1:02:58] >> Okay.
[1:03:02] » All right,
[1:03:03] >> Mr. Mayor.
[1:03:05] >> Council Fletcher and then Councilwoman.
[1:03:07] And not to belabor the subject, I think
[1:03:09] all these are great. Some are a little
[1:03:11] too busy, but maybe we can tone them
[1:03:13] down a little bit and make them pop like
[1:03:15] you said. Um, but I'd like to bring up
[1:03:18] again, I've been asking for this for
[1:03:19] quite some time on our city letterheads,
[1:03:22] you know, where we have our logo and
[1:03:23] then down the side most of the time we
[1:03:25] have the names of everyone. Uh, I'd like
[1:03:27] to do the the co-branding
[1:03:31] with the championship race. Uh, soon
[1:03:33] we're going to be adding, you know,
[1:03:35] Miami FC to Homestead. Uh, and hopefully
[1:03:38] a championship there as well. So, uh, we
[1:03:41] talked about this quite some time ago,
[1:03:42] but we've never really implemented it
[1:03:44] yet. And I think we need to to really
[1:03:47] market our facility that's leased by
[1:03:49] NASCAR, but we should be helping that
[1:03:52] when we're sending out our normal mail.
[1:03:55] >> Thank you.
[1:03:55] >> Well, even on email between now and the
[1:03:57] race,
[1:03:57] >> correct?
[1:03:58] >> And do we have their final logo that
[1:04:00] doesn't use the word homestead
[1:04:03] >> uh for SPH?
[1:04:04] >> No.
[1:04:04] No. No.
[1:04:05] >> For the track for this championship
[1:04:06] race?
[1:04:07] >> We do.
[1:04:07] >> Yeah, we do. And we uh we uh well we are
[1:04:12] working with the track to do some
[1:04:15] elements of uh joint
[1:04:19] banners uh as a they are they're working
[1:04:22] with us jointly on the banner program as
[1:04:24] well as the water tower. Um they have
[1:04:28] shared with us a design concept. So
[1:04:30] mayor and council will the
[1:04:31] administration is going to come back
[1:04:32] with all those concepts for your review
[1:04:35] and approval before we adopt anything. I
[1:04:38] don't recommend we put stuff on our
[1:04:40] letterhead with that council's
[1:04:41] concurrence first.
[1:04:43] >> One final
[1:04:45] >> uh I know we reached out to uh
[1:04:49] you said the county owned street lights.
[1:04:52] >> Yes sir. Can we reach out to Florida
[1:04:54] Power and Light because the main
[1:04:55] thoroughfare especially on the in the
[1:04:57] southeast district is Palm Drive and I
[1:05:00] know those are FPL street lights but I
[1:05:02] know there's liability that comes with
[1:05:04] that as well. So
[1:05:05] >> So last week I reached out to the
[1:05:07] governmental affairs manager for FPL
[1:05:10] because of that as well as some other
[1:05:12] additional unrelated issues. He's
[1:05:15] currently out of the country until the
[1:05:16] 27th and he promised me that as soon as
[1:05:19] he comes back he's coming to Homestead
[1:05:20] to finalize on all pending issues.
[1:05:25] >> Can you go back to the one with the
[1:05:26] tomatoes and the avocados?
[1:05:29] >> Okay. Yeah, you passed it. Okay. So,
[1:05:33] you know, to not, and again, not to
[1:05:35] belver the point, but to not have too
[1:05:38] many of the Happy Birthday America
[1:05:40] banners downtown.
[1:05:43] Why not intersperse
[1:05:45] one of the tomatoes and one of the and I
[1:05:47] like the first avocado and the first
[1:05:49] tomato and see that would be my
[1:05:52] preference to alternate the happy
[1:05:54] birthday America
[1:05:56] >> future lives here
[1:05:57] >> with with produce
[1:05:59] future lives here you know and they have
[1:06:02] three different kinds of banners so it's
[1:06:04] not so monolithic
[1:06:07] >> this in downtown Cro
[1:06:10] and and there are some that we hike that
[1:06:13] we can go forward with later. But, you
[1:06:16] know, as we're going back into and
[1:06:18] really trying to showcase our
[1:06:19] agricultural roots, you know, for the
[1:06:22] first trunch of banners, if we could if
[1:06:25] we could do that. And I think
[1:06:28] Councilwoman has some comments.
[1:06:30] >> Thank you. Uh, when is when do we think
[1:06:32] we're printing the banners?
[1:06:34] >> Yesterday.
[1:06:36] >> To be installed by Memorial Day weekend.
[1:06:42] the location and all that. We're not
[1:06:43] going to have a second hack.
[1:06:44] >> Say that again.
[1:06:45] >> For the locations on the map and all
[1:06:47] that, we won't have another hack at
[1:06:48] this, right?
[1:06:49] >> Well, certainly we will because I what I
[1:06:51] imagine to what I imagine will happen is
[1:06:54] for May, we may be certainly able to
[1:06:57] install on our pole street lights,
[1:07:00] right? Or or decorative lights.
[1:07:02] >> And then maybe the county will will give
[1:07:05] us approval later thereafter. So there
[1:07:09] is I I anticipate there being a rolling
[1:07:12] um implementation that's possible. It
[1:07:14] depends on when the county or FPL um
[1:07:18] gives us a a determination.
[1:07:20] >> So for example like Speedway Boulevard
[1:07:24] for race weekend leading up to the race
[1:07:27] and some of those major east west
[1:07:29] corridors where folks would come in from
[1:07:32] the west of the track to come in there.
[1:07:35] We also touched on some of the Fourth of
[1:07:38] July banners in that corridor when folks
[1:07:41] are coming out there for our
[1:07:42] programming.
[1:07:44] >> Okay. So, a few a few things. The logo
[1:07:47] behind the chair for the same reason why
[1:07:50] we you know we want to raise the logo. I
[1:07:53] don't think we should replace it with
[1:07:54] another tombstone style sign. Perhaps
[1:07:57] just something simple to hide the defect
[1:08:00] you're referring to. But if the goal is
[1:08:02] to be able to see the full logo during
[1:08:05] live play of the meetings, I can
[1:08:08] understand why you want to do that. I
[1:08:09] prefer not to spend that kind of money
[1:08:11] if we don't have to. But
[1:08:14] I I I agree with the
[1:08:16] >> get it right the second time.
[1:08:17] >> Okay. The the banners on in the inside,
[1:08:20] I don't know if that's necessary. I
[1:08:22] think that it it's another distraction
[1:08:25] in the room. It's more work.
[1:08:28] But I do I do like the the alternating
[1:08:32] of the signs. Um the 250 signage per se.
[1:08:36] It did it wasn't a wow factor for me.
[1:08:38] I'm not sure if there were other
[1:08:39] renderings to consider, but if it's if
[1:08:43] it this is what we're going to work with
[1:08:44] in terms of in terms of the the basic
[1:08:46] style
[1:08:49] making the verbiage like
[1:08:50] >> mean the ones for outside,
[1:08:51] >> right?
[1:08:53] Um,
[1:08:55] let's see what it looks like. Thank you.
[1:08:59] >> Well, what you don't really pick up here
[1:09:01] is kind of the watermark behind it and
[1:09:03] the fireworks.
[1:09:05] It may not be really visible here. I
[1:09:08] think maybe on a printout.
[1:09:09] >> Yeah. I mean, it's temporary. It's not
[1:09:11] permanent. It's just the this year and
[1:09:13] then it's off. Well, we're going to take
[1:09:15] the 250 logo off of these and put our
[1:09:18] round logo on them so that they can be
[1:09:22] used year after year.
[1:09:23] >> So then the background, the blue and all
[1:09:25] that will stay the same
[1:09:26] >> because nobody's proposing that we spend
[1:09:28] this money for these large banners to
[1:09:30] use one time.
[1:09:32] >> Got it. So
[1:09:33] >> we put the brown logo there. We can use
[1:09:35] them for several years.
[1:09:36] >> Okay. So
[1:09:37] >> and perhaps in different locations.
[1:09:41] >> Got it. So they'll have fireworks on it
[1:09:43] all year long.
[1:09:44] >> Not all year long.
[1:09:45] >> No, no, no. This is just for that period
[1:09:48] this year, Memorial Day to Labor Day for
[1:09:50] the
[1:09:50] >> So you're saying you'll reuse the
[1:09:52] banner, but put a new print on the
[1:09:53] banner
[1:09:54] >> as you phase out the seasons. How are
[1:09:56] you going to reuse?
[1:09:56] >> You're going to take these banners down,
[1:09:58] store them, and put them back up next
[1:10:00] year.
[1:10:00] >> I understand what you're saying, right?
[1:10:02] But they're not going to be a
[1:10:02] permanently affixed all year round is
[1:10:04] what I'm saying. No.
[1:10:05] >> Okay. With regards to the branding, I do
[1:10:08] believe that we have an opportunity like
[1:10:09] Councilman Fletcher said with
[1:10:12] highlighting home of the championship
[1:10:14] race, right? So, we can brand with that
[1:10:17] for this year on all of our templates.
[1:10:19] And then next year, what are we home of?
[1:10:21] the
[1:10:22] >> I don't know FC game, big game,
[1:10:25] whatever. And then the year after that
[1:10:27] or the season
[1:10:29] >> sunflower
[1:10:30] >> home of the sunflower festival coming
[1:10:32] 2027, you know,
[1:10:33] >> it's a stinking cover crop. they weren't
[1:10:35] selling them. It was a cover.
[1:10:36] >> It's definitely something that it just
[1:10:38] it throws messaging. It throws a high,
[1:10:40] you know, highlights on what to look
[1:10:41] forward to and it's a buzz for whoever's
[1:10:44] receiving it and thank you very much.
[1:10:47] >> So, so great idea on that and I I do
[1:10:50] support that. Uh, in general, the the
[1:10:53] signage and the locations, you know,
[1:10:55] we'll just keep working on it.
[1:10:59] » All right. Thank you very much.
[1:11:01] >> All right. Thank you all. Is does that
[1:11:03] include comments from council?
[1:11:04] Councilman Roth, you're good.
[1:11:06] >> Okay.
[1:11:07] >> All right. So, do you have what you need
[1:11:10] from us on this item at this point?
[1:11:12] >> We do. Thank you very much.
[1:11:14] >> I guess you don't want to jump into
[1:11:15] picking out floor coloring while we're
[1:11:17] decorating. No,
[1:11:18] >> at the direction of the manager.
[1:11:19] >> Let's Let's don't
[1:11:22] That's not the next item. I was kidding.
[1:11:25] As long as we're picking out curtains,
[1:11:26] let's pick out carpet.
[1:11:29] We'll we'll we'll take a break on that.
[1:11:31] All right. Our next item is the approval
[1:11:33] of the consent agenda which is tabs 3A
[1:11:37] through
[1:11:40] tab 11.
[1:11:43] >> It's been moved. Do we have a
[1:11:44] >> second with a comment, please? Thank
[1:11:45] you.
[1:11:45] >> A second with a comment. Go ahead.
[1:11:47] Comment.
[1:11:48] >> Thank you. I support the consent agenda.
[1:11:50] One point I want to make with regards to
[1:11:53] the PAL gym, not necessarily the
[1:11:56] contract that we're approving under the
[1:11:57] item for the PAL. um as I I do support
[1:12:01] the extra programming and the the the formatting on how the programs will
[1:12:05] be provided to the PAL kids and
[1:12:07] everything in general, but it um I did
[1:12:09] have a briefing with our city manager,
[1:12:12] the police chief, and um in regards to
[1:12:15] the PAL program in general, and that's
[1:12:18] something that I would like for the rest
[1:12:19] of council to be aware of and to review
[1:12:22] hopefully soon. I did receive a memo
[1:12:24] with regards to um their internal
[1:12:27] auditing of the program and um I want to
[1:12:30] continue to have the city and the staff
[1:12:32] to support the PAL program as is under
[1:12:35] the Homestead Police Department's
[1:12:36] perview and um I just want to to to give
[1:12:41] you all the opportunity to review that
[1:12:42] information as soon as possible and
[1:12:44] perhaps let's call a sunshine meeting to
[1:12:46] discuss further
[1:12:47] and make sure that if that is the will
[1:12:50] of the council that the staff knows that
[1:12:52] and is able to um um encourage the the
[1:12:57] programming the the the structure of the
[1:13:00] program as well as and the entity uh to
[1:13:03] be maintained as such. And I did request
[1:13:06] for budgeting u information precoid and
[1:13:10] I did not receive that yet. I've
[1:13:13] requested it a couple times. So I wanted
[1:13:15] to know if that has been pulled from
[1:13:19] record. I I can't imagine that it's
[1:13:21] difficult for us to find what the budget
[1:13:23] was for a program that we have been
[1:13:25] funding for 2019.
[1:13:28] It's not like it's buried in the
[1:13:29] basement of the old city hall.
[1:13:31] >> Yeah, Councilman, I think the finance
[1:13:32] director pulled up one of the years and
[1:13:34] is working with PD to get additional
[1:13:37] information for you.
[1:13:38] >> Great. Thank you. All right. I'll rest
[1:13:40] there, but that is my second.
[1:13:41] >> Okay. Thank you. All right. Any further
[1:13:44] comments on the approval of the consent
[1:13:45] agenda? All right. All in favor?
[1:13:48] >> I. Any oppose?
[1:13:50] All right, Mr. White, have at it.
[1:13:57] » Yes. Quai judicial items. Please be
[1:13:59] advised the following items on the
[1:14:01] agenda are quai judicial in nature. If
[1:14:02] you wish to comment upon any of these
[1:14:04] items, please indicate the item number
[1:14:05] you would like to address. When the
[1:14:07] announcement regarding the quai judicial
[1:14:08] item is made, an opportunity for persons
[1:14:11] to speak on each item will be made
[1:14:13] available after the applicant and staff
[1:14:15] have made their presentations on each
[1:14:16] item. swearing in. All testimony,
[1:14:19] including public testimony and evidence,
[1:14:20] will be made under oath or affirmation.
[1:14:22] Additionally, each person who gives
[1:14:24] testimony may may be subject to
[1:14:25] cross-examination.
[1:14:27] If you do not wish to either be
[1:14:28] cross-examined or sworn, your testimony
[1:14:31] will be given its due. The general
[1:14:33] public will not be permitted to
[1:14:34] cross-examine witnesses, but the public
[1:14:36] may request the council to ask questions
[1:14:38] of staff or witnesses on their behalf.
[1:14:40] The full agenda packet on each item is
[1:14:42] hereby entered into the record. Persons
[1:14:44] representing organizations must present
[1:14:46] evidence of their authority to speak for
[1:14:48] the organization.
[1:14:51] Further details of the quai judicial
[1:14:52] procedures may be obtained from the
[1:14:54] clerk and according to code section
[1:14:55] 2-590. Any lobbyists must register
[1:14:58] before addressing the council on any of
[1:15:00] the following items. At this time,
[1:15:02] council members must disclose any
[1:15:03] exparte communications concerning any
[1:15:06] items on the agenda. And I would just
[1:15:08] note that tab 12 and 13 are not quasi
[1:15:10] judicial items. They're legislative
[1:15:12] matters. So we can take those up when we
[1:15:14] get to the legislative matter section.
[1:15:17] >> Okay.
[1:15:17] >> So quazi judicial items for
[1:15:20] consideration this evening would be
[1:15:22] second reading of tab 15, tab 16, tab
[1:15:26] 17, tab 18 and tab 19.
[1:15:38] » Well, no 18, not 19.
[1:15:42] 15 through 18.
[1:15:43] >> I heard you say 19. It's 18,
[1:15:50] » right? Right. But not part of the the
[1:15:52] same project.
[1:15:54] >> So, do we need to go to the
[1:15:56] >> So,
[1:15:58] 19 is the separate item. Yeah. Right.
[1:16:01] >> So, do we need to go first to the second
[1:16:04] reading of the reszoning
[1:16:07] for this package?
[1:16:09] >> That would be correct. But first
[1:16:11] >> disclosures
[1:16:13] >> 15 through 18 project the same.
[1:16:16] >> All right. So then at this time anyone
[1:16:18] in the audience wishing to speak this
[1:16:20] evening please stand raise your right
[1:16:22] hand to be sworn in by the clerk.
[1:16:26] >> You swear by do you hereby swear affirm
[1:16:28] to tell the truth and nothing but the
[1:16:30] truth to help me God.
[1:16:32] You may be seated.
[1:16:36] >> So
[1:16:38] Mr. Mr. Mayor, we can move to the second
[1:16:39] reading uh the resoning tab 15. Um I can
[1:16:43] introduce that as well as tab 16, 17,
[1:16:47] and 18.
[1:16:48] >> Right. Let's let's introduce the entire
[1:16:51] package and then we'll vote in the order
[1:16:52] that's necessary.
[1:16:53] >> Right.
[1:16:54] >> Individually.
[1:16:56] So tab 15, this is a second reading of
[1:16:58] an ordinance to the city of Homestead,
[1:16:59] Florida approving the reszoning as
[1:17:01] requested by Vama LLC and Panko LLC of
[1:17:03] an approximately 62.35 acre parcel of
[1:17:05] land from agricultural AU zoning
[1:17:08] district to one family 1/2 acre AU
[1:17:10] zoning district for property generally
[1:17:12] located south of southwest 396 street
[1:17:16] north of 302nd Street and west of
[1:17:18] Southwest 192nd Avenue as legally
[1:17:21] described in exhibit A and providing for conflict severability and
[1:17:24] providing for an effective date. Tab 16,
[1:17:28] car number 4974
[1:17:30] is a res resolution of the city of
[1:17:32] Homestead, Florida, granting site plan
[1:17:34] approval as requested by Bama and Penco
[1:17:36] LLC for the development of 119 single
[1:17:39] family dwelling units within a new
[1:17:42] residential subdivision on an
[1:17:43] approximately 62.35 acre parcel of land.
[1:17:47] Tab 17 is car number 4975.
[1:17:51] It is a resolution of the city of
[1:17:53] Homestead, Florida granting tenants of
[1:17:54] plat approval as requested by Bama and
[1:17:57] Pinko LLC for the development of a 115
[1:18:02] single family unit new residential
[1:18:04] subdivision. And lastly, tab 18, car
[1:18:08] number 4976
[1:18:10] is a resolution of the city of Homestead
[1:18:12] Florida granting a variance as requested
[1:18:14] by Obama and Penco LLC from the city
[1:18:17] code of ordinances section 30-981
[1:18:20] regulations to permit a minimum building
[1:18:23] site or lot area of 15,780
[1:18:27] ft where a minimum 1/2 acre 21,780
[1:18:32] ft building site or lot is required for
[1:18:35] each single family dwelling unit. This
[1:18:37] is for the development of 119 single
[1:18:39] family dwelling homes within a new
[1:18:40] residential subdivision.
[1:18:44] » Thank you.
[1:18:46] Any issues with waving the staff report
[1:18:50] and we can come back to staff if
[1:18:51] necessary after the applicant's
[1:18:53] presentation that okay Mr.
[1:18:56] >> Arsen
[1:19:07] Is this mic on?
[1:19:13] » It's on.
[1:19:15] >> Yeah. Just needs to be brought up. Can
[1:19:16] you hear me?
[1:19:17] >> We can hear you.
[1:19:21] >> Thank you, sir.
[1:19:26] » Good evening. Hugo or 71 Burkel Avenue.
[1:19:30] um joined today by my partner Alex Aras
[1:19:33] as well as representatives from LAR
[1:19:35] homes. Um pleasure to be before you. I
[1:19:38] thank you all for your time. I had an
[1:19:40] opportunity to sit with all of you um
[1:19:43] prior to first reading and again uh
[1:19:45] before this evening for second reading.
[1:19:47] Um so I know you're you're familiar with
[1:19:49] the site and the property. I want to
[1:19:51] thank staff for their work with us um in getting this project to to the finish
[1:19:55] line uh we hope uh this evening. and um
[1:20:00] see that we've already uh we're on the
[1:20:02] subject site. So again, um you know,
[1:20:04] just to orient us a little bit, uh the
[1:20:05] eastern portion of our properties, 192nd
[1:20:08] Avenue, uh 296th Street, Avocado is on
[1:20:11] the north side. Um and um basically a
[1:20:16] budding to the north, um the under
[1:20:19] construction Aspen Estates project that
[1:20:21] you see on the on the screen there, uh
[1:20:24] under development and under construction
[1:20:25] and approved by this council. And I I
[1:20:28] will come back to that approval um in a
[1:20:30] few slides. Um because the the really
[1:20:33] the the theme of the application when
[1:20:36] first presented to me to submit to the
[1:20:39] city for approval and in my discussions
[1:20:41] with I think all of you throughout time
[1:20:43] was that um having gone through that
[1:20:46] approval process recently the city um
[1:20:48] had expressed you know support for what
[1:20:51] you now see there under development um
[1:20:54] an application that contained the exact
[1:20:56] same four requests before you this
[1:20:58] evening the site plan the tlat the
[1:21:00] resoning
[1:21:01] and the same variance for lot sizes. So,
[1:21:04] um when when LAR came to me, I said,
[1:21:07] "Whatever we do, um let's make sure we
[1:21:09] can match um what this city and council
[1:21:13] have previously approved in the recent
[1:21:15] past." Um that approval happened, uh I
[1:21:17] think not quite 3 years ago, so in the
[1:21:19] recent past. And so, uh what we have
[1:21:21] this evening is a project that, um is
[1:21:23] just a hair under the density that Aspen
[1:21:26] states had approved. and we used that
[1:21:28] kind of as a as a bit of a guiding
[1:21:30] principle. Um we felt that it was
[1:21:32] appropriate to try and uh take a nod to
[1:21:35] what this council had already previously
[1:21:37] approved. Um it also factually and we'll
[1:21:40] see it meant that there were places
[1:21:42] where that project and the roads that
[1:21:44] exist because of that project we're
[1:21:46] going to come into our project. So
[1:21:47] really it it is a continuation of a of a
[1:21:50] theme even though it is two different
[1:21:51] developers but the state homes in in
[1:21:54] this corner of the city which um does
[1:21:57] above your city boundary and um I'll
[1:21:59] show you in a minute that in fact a
[1:22:01] portion of this project once developed
[1:22:03] the one before you this evening a
[1:22:05] portion of it actually is outside of the
[1:22:07] city limits it's in the county that's
[1:22:09] already been through approvals for um
[1:22:11] estates sized homes and so we have
[1:22:13] before you the 62.35 gross acres that
[1:22:16] you have um within your city boundaries.
[1:22:19] Um existing land use designation, state
[1:22:21] density. That is important. I noted it
[1:22:23] obviously first reading talked about um
[1:22:26] the uh the the resoning and and so I
[1:22:30] made the point then and I'll make it
[1:22:31] again now. Um we are not seeking an
[1:22:33] increase in density above that which
[1:22:35] your master plan already contemplates
[1:22:37] for this site. Your master plan has for
[1:22:40] quite some time intended for this site
[1:22:42] to be developed with up to two and a
[1:22:44] half 2.5 dwelling units per acre. And so
[1:22:47] we're below that. We're at 1.98. But
[1:22:50] we're not asking for any additional
[1:22:51] density beyond what your master plan.
[1:22:53] That's important to keep in mind because
[1:22:55] that is what your governing planning
[1:22:57] document um envisions and has envisioned
[1:22:59] for um since the mid200s as far back as
[1:23:03] that could go showing that that property
[1:23:05] for the better part of 20 years uh had
[1:23:08] and there was an expectation that it
[1:23:10] would be developed with estate homes.
[1:23:12] And so, um, it's important to note that
[1:23:14] you get many land use changes, not maybe
[1:23:16] not many, but you do get the you get
[1:23:18] some land use changes sometimes where
[1:23:19] you can do this much on a property, but
[1:23:22] applicants will come in and say, I want
[1:23:24] to do more than what is allowed under
[1:23:25] your master plan. This is not one of
[1:23:27] those cases. I think that's an important
[1:23:28] point uh, worth noting uh, because this
[1:23:31] is already something that's contemplated
[1:23:33] by your master plan. existing zoning
[1:23:35] classification agriculture. I mean, by
[1:23:37] and large, most parcels in Miami Date
[1:23:38] County, both within within Homestead and uninccorporated and and in other
[1:23:43] municipalities, until they are
[1:23:45] developed, they carry with them one of
[1:23:47] two zoning categories, GU um or AU. Many
[1:23:51] carry AU because many were historically
[1:23:53] utilized for agriculture. That doesn't
[1:23:56] mean, however, that the master plan
[1:23:57] doesn't govern the intended use. And
[1:23:59] again, that's the estate density. So
[1:24:02] while the existing zoning is
[1:24:03] agriculture, the master plan has
[1:24:05] contemplated, as I said, for over two
[1:24:07] decades, that this be developed with a
[1:24:09] residential project for a long time. It
[1:24:12] was farmed, much like all of South Bay
[1:24:14] and a lot of our county in general, and
[1:24:17] now we would seek the resoning um to
[1:24:20] allow uh for us to um develop a project
[1:24:24] consistent with your master plan. And
[1:24:25] this is the uh the the graphic. Um it
[1:24:29] struck me when I looked at this graphic
[1:24:30] and just just to point out that the
[1:24:33] community the the much more longer
[1:24:35] established community to the east um on
[1:24:38] the other side of 192nd Avenue and
[1:24:40] there's there's a few different you know
[1:24:42] that's been there for a long long time
[1:24:44] actually has low density um land use
[1:24:47] designation. So, what that means is that
[1:24:49] um it it that area could have up to six
[1:24:53] holding units per acre and and I know
[1:24:54] it's fully developed and it's not
[1:24:56] envisioned, but just as a as a nod um
[1:24:59] while there are, you know, larger estate
[1:25:01] homes there today, there's nothing that
[1:25:04] the master plan um that precludes um at
[1:25:07] some point down the road from people
[1:25:09] perhaps assembling some of that and
[1:25:11] seeking an approval in the future for greater density. That's not possible
[1:25:14] for us. But it was telling to me that
[1:25:17] even an area that has the the larger
[1:25:19] estate home lots, um the city still has
[1:25:22] a more intense land use category. We
[1:25:24] don't have that. We are in the estate
[1:25:26] density uh in its entirety and can't ask
[1:25:29] for that. So again before you this
[1:25:31] evening is the second reading of uh our
[1:25:35] request to resone the property to A2
[1:25:37] which is your 1/2 acre estates site plan
[1:25:40] approval um which obviously all of your
[1:25:42] projects require tentative flat approval
[1:25:45] which goes with your site plan approval.
[1:25:46] I'm skipping over but I'm I'm leaving um
[1:25:49] it for to to note that obviously a lot
[1:25:52] of the discussions that I had with all
[1:25:54] of you um regarded the variance and
[1:25:56] again our um guiding light in asking for
[1:26:00] the variance was that it was um
[1:26:02] incredibly consistent almost down to you
[1:26:05] know within 0.02 dwelling units per acre
[1:26:08] um with the community that had been
[1:26:10] approved to the south Aspen Estates and
[1:26:12] I thought that that was telling and
[1:26:14] important. So, the very same variance
[1:26:15] request that this council approved um
[1:26:18] about three years ago, give or take. Um
[1:26:20] I will note there's no CDD request
[1:26:22] before you this evening. I know a
[1:26:24] question came up earlier about um
[1:26:25] perhaps placing some restrictions on on
[1:26:27] a CDD and I can get into that a little
[1:26:29] later, but we will be filing and
[1:26:31] processing for consideration by this
[1:26:33] council a CDD, the creation of a C or
[1:26:36] the recommendation by the city for the
[1:26:38] county commission to create the CDD. I
[1:26:41] have confirmed council woman because I
[1:26:43] don't want to forget later that a CDD
[1:26:44] petition can be made um without where it
[1:26:49] um prevents or prohibits the expansion
[1:26:52] of that CDD um at a later date. So I
[1:26:55] will again we are filing that
[1:26:57] application. We will work that through.
[1:26:58] I I can't make a commitment for an
[1:27:00] application not before you this evening,
[1:27:01] but to the extent that there might be um
[1:27:05] concerns um when that CDD application
[1:27:08] will I mean I actually already texted
[1:27:10] with CDD council. She's assured me that commitment can be made. We can file
[1:27:14] it that way and when it comes before you
[1:27:16] obviously you'll be able to evaluate
[1:27:17] that. It's not before you today. What is
[1:27:19] also though telling is that there will
[1:27:21] be no HOA. I think when we first started
[1:27:22] visiting with some of you prior to first
[1:27:24] reading, there was a discussion. Many of
[1:27:27] LAR's communities had both an HOA and a
[1:27:29] CDD. They they piggyback their
[1:27:31] responsibilities. They they serve
[1:27:32] different functions. Um given that there
[1:27:35] were um this community doesn't have a
[1:27:37] centralized amenity like a clubhouse or
[1:27:40] something that required um other um
[1:27:45] management. um they the LAR is able to
[1:27:49] remove any HOA from here. Obviously,
[1:27:52] that represents a savings for these
[1:27:53] folks. They'll have a CD and we'll have
[1:27:55] the numbers and the price and the amount
[1:27:57] when we come before you at a later date,
[1:27:59] but there will be no HOA. Many of the
[1:28:02] communities do have both. And so, I
[1:28:04] think that, you know, hopefully that
[1:28:05] will be um you know, positively weighed.
[1:28:07] Um this is a different kind of
[1:28:09] community. It's not a gated community.
[1:28:10] It's not a amenitydriven community. is a
[1:28:12] community where folks are going to have
[1:28:13] larger homes and larger lots and um you
[1:28:16] know can can kind of do what they want
[1:28:18] within their their project. Um again and
[1:28:20] I've talked to this um our property in
[1:28:23] yellow 1.98
[1:28:25] units per acre as the states 2.01. So I
[1:28:28] mean again we we um right there and very slightly below. Um so I think that
[1:28:35] it's um telling that that we try to
[1:28:37] match that and try to create something.
[1:28:39] Um, and I will and I'll show you in the
[1:28:41] site plan that again the the the road
[1:28:43] network does connect through. So even
[1:28:45] though these two communities are going
[1:28:46] to are being developed at a different
[1:28:47] time and you know the one to the south
[1:28:49] obviously is under development already
[1:28:51] um folks will have access through for any kind of uh mobility purposes. Um
[1:28:57] and there you have some of the
[1:28:58] information about the surrounding
[1:28:59] properties and I've been touching up on
[1:29:00] all of this um but basically um we are
[1:29:03] consistent with everything around us. we
[1:29:04] are a state density and around this we
[1:29:06] either have estate density or as I noted
[1:29:08] on the east low density we have the same
[1:29:10] zoning category in the county property
[1:29:13] which is a part of this project but in
[1:29:14] the county they have a category called
[1:29:16] EUM it's a state density with EUM um and
[1:29:19] so we are compatible and again there's
[1:29:21] no small single family lots there's no
[1:29:24] town houses here there's none of that so
[1:29:25] it is um compatible in that sense um
[1:29:28] obviously in showing this we we've
[1:29:30] talked a little bit about but here was
[1:29:32] um you know some of the the the
[1:29:34] highlights of that Aspen estate's
[1:29:36] approval, the density, the lot variance
[1:29:38] that it was approved, the tentative plat
[1:29:40] um and the redesation again almost
[1:29:42] mirroring many of the but all of the
[1:29:44] requests um almost down to to the last
[1:29:48] comma or or detail and that um
[1:29:50] compatibility goes through also with the
[1:29:52] development pattern and the road network
[1:29:54] and everything that that is contained. I
[1:29:57] will note because I've been asked before
[1:30:00] um maybe this is a better slide. we we
[1:30:02] don't control. Um, so there's a little
[1:30:05] notch up at the top. You see the little
[1:30:07] rectangle up there that that is owned by
[1:30:09] a different owner. It's my understanding
[1:30:11] that they're into the city or will be
[1:30:13] into the city for a similar type of
[1:30:15] estate home development. Um, at one
[1:30:17] point we had a conversation with them
[1:30:19] that they, you know, for their own
[1:30:21] reasons and they they would not have to,
[1:30:23] of course, didn't didn't see a need to
[1:30:25] join our project. So um, but the the but
[1:30:28] the city is aware that that notch there
[1:30:31] while out of the confines of this
[1:30:33] project will also be developed with
[1:30:35] estate homes. I just mentioned that so
[1:30:37] that um you all can can appreciate that
[1:30:40] it will be the same continuity of of of
[1:30:42] pattern. Um so here's uh the site plan.
[1:30:46] Um the yellow is the county parcel
[1:30:49] um that will be part of this development
[1:30:51] and this community once finished. You
[1:30:53] know, letting the folks um it'll be
[1:30:55] curious, right? So people living sort of
[1:30:58] behind each other or half a block away
[1:30:59] are going to be in the county and not in
[1:31:00] the city. Um but that's where the city
[1:31:03] boundary is. So that parcel is already
[1:31:05] approved in yellow, but as you can see,
[1:31:07] it ties in on the south and on the north
[1:31:08] and in the middle point. And then to the
[1:31:10] south, you see those connection points
[1:31:12] into Aspen. Um, particularly in that
[1:31:15] block in the bottom. And and I will talk
[1:31:16] a little bit about that block because
[1:31:18] that block is the block that contains
[1:31:20] some of those smaller lot sizes. And in
[1:31:23] large part, it's because of the
[1:31:24] configuration of the roads to the south.
[1:31:26] When you look at those two roads to the
[1:31:27] south, you break up that square um and at a at a fixed point, right? and
[1:31:32] you've got to connect exactly with the
[1:31:34] roads that exist to the south, which
[1:31:36] meant that we in in a couple of those
[1:31:38] blocks don't have quite the depth of
[1:31:40] lots. I've gone back to the drawing
[1:31:42] board and I have a couple of thoughts
[1:31:44] and suggestions um for what we can do to
[1:31:47] enable and make sure that the that the
[1:31:50] future residents of those lots even if
[1:31:52] their lots are um the the the two blocks
[1:31:55] are five feet less in depth. So
[1:31:58] obviously that makes a little bit of a
[1:32:00] difference with a backyard with the
[1:32:01] ability to have a pool exactly where you
[1:32:03] want it. And we have some some thought
[1:32:06] given and I'll wait if there's some
[1:32:07] questions as to how we might be able to
[1:32:09] ensure that even those lots even though
[1:32:11] they're a little smaller still can enjoy
[1:32:13] a fully functional backyard. Um and and
[1:32:16] I we have some thoughts for those that I happy to share with all of you.
[1:32:20] We'll get to it. um some of the site
[1:32:22] plan uh uh graphics again the 119 units
[1:32:26] and all the requests um for the variance
[1:32:28] requests um the only variance required
[1:32:30] again is is the uh minimum building site
[1:32:33] the the the lot size and so I want to
[1:32:36] note here that um out of the 119
[1:32:39] the you know 90 whatever it is 24 lots I
[1:32:43] I'll I'll stick to the number on the
[1:32:44] screen 24 lots are under 17,000 so the great majority of the lots are
[1:32:49] actually graded in 17,000 including many
[1:32:52] as you can see like the entirety of
[1:32:53] block 7 which is 19,000 the entirety of
[1:32:56] block 6 which is 18,500 and higher. So
[1:32:59] by no means is the request to bring down
[1:33:03] every lot to the 15,800 or so feet that
[1:33:07] we have in a handful of lots. It's the
[1:33:10] majority of the lots are 1819. All of
[1:33:12] black block 9 as you can see on the
[1:33:14] right is 21,000 with the exception of a
[1:33:17] couple of lots that are actually in
[1:33:18] excess of the halfacre. So again, the
[1:33:20] request is somewhat borne out by the
[1:33:23] road networks and how you break it up
[1:33:24] and then some of the blocks getting a
[1:33:26] little smaller. Um, and also driven
[1:33:29] candidly, as we've discussed with all of
[1:33:30] you, by a lot of market economics. The
[1:33:33] development of the site is a fixed cost.
[1:33:35] The property comes at a fixed cost. I
[1:33:37] mean, whatever the cost of the land is,
[1:33:39] the water and sewer that will be brought
[1:33:41] to this site from the county. We're not going to be taxing the city's
[1:33:46] infrastructure here. we're we're we're
[1:33:47] going to um tap tap into another LAR
[1:33:51] community that has to be brought in at
[1:33:53] the developer's cost. All of those are
[1:33:55] fixed costs regardless of the exact
[1:33:56] number of lots. And so, you know, given
[1:33:58] how expensive land is, how expensive
[1:34:00] development is, how expensive water
[1:34:01] infraure water and sewer infrastructure
[1:34:03] is. The the project before you is the
[1:34:06] one that is able to provide for um a um
[1:34:09] a project that works for all folks. And we've talked a little bit about the
[1:34:12] prices. I mean, these are homes that are
[1:34:14] we anticipate will go on the market
[1:34:16] between the middle 700s to the middle to
[1:34:18] high 800s. So, it's in that spot um of homes that are admittedly step up
[1:34:24] homes. I mean, most folks will buy an
[1:34:26] initial home. It might be a town home.
[1:34:28] It might be a small single family home.
[1:34:29] And this will be obviously uh you know,
[1:34:31] for a lot of folks a second family home
[1:34:33] a little later in their life. um and and
[1:34:36] will provide for that space and
[1:34:38] amenities um that frankly is hard to get
[1:34:41] in most of Day County at this point to
[1:34:43] have 18 19 20 21,000 square feet lots.
[1:34:46] Um here is a graphic depiction. The
[1:34:48] smallest lots um you had it in in the
[1:34:51] tab form or in the chart form. And
[1:34:54] here's the smallest lots. And again the smaller lots are are principally
[1:35:00] driven by the fact that those road
[1:35:01] networks on the west side also break it
[1:35:03] up. And so that is the space that we
[1:35:06] have to so to speak um on on both sides
[1:35:09] of those roads which when you then
[1:35:11] divide it up into the home sites
[1:35:13] generates the the lot sizes that you
[1:35:15] have before you. But it also means that
[1:35:17] it's well into the community will not be
[1:35:20] visible from 296 or 192nd Avenue. That
[1:35:23] is those traversing through the area are
[1:35:26] not although I've said this before, it
[1:35:28] is difficult when you're driving to note
[1:35:30] the difference between a 16,000t lot and
[1:35:32] a 19,000 foot lot. I I I do this for a
[1:35:35] living and driving down the street
[1:35:36] you're you're hardressed because it's
[1:35:38] both width and depth. So you it's really
[1:35:40] hard to see what you're going to see is
[1:35:41] an estateized lot. But nevertheless,
[1:35:43] they are within the community to the
[1:35:45] west side, closer to the county parcel,
[1:35:48] furthest away from the established
[1:35:49] pattern on the east side of 192nd Avenue
[1:35:52] and the major thorough affairs of
[1:35:54] Avocado and 192nd. And I I think we've
[1:35:57] talked about the compatibility of the
[1:35:59] project um substantially. Um the
[1:36:02] tentative plat, which as as you all know
[1:36:05] um is um is is and I'm going to go back
[1:36:08] because I want to touch on one other
[1:36:09] point. um the the tentative plat which
[1:36:12] is your um you know surveyor's review of
[1:36:16] all of the technical requirements of
[1:36:17] state and county uh procedures. So it's mostly governed by state and county
[1:36:23] platting. Um but uh obviously your city
[1:36:26] has an obligation to approve the
[1:36:27] tentative plat.
[1:36:28] is pursuant to your staff's
[1:36:31] recommendation and review consistent
[1:36:33] with the site plan and meets all of the
[1:36:35] requirements um for um the subdivision
[1:36:38] of this parcel. I brought it back to
[1:36:40] this site plan because I wanted to talk
[1:36:41] a little bit because there was a lot of
[1:36:42] discussion. One of the requests that we
[1:36:44] got from staff and again we work closely
[1:36:46] with uh with Miss Storch and and her
[1:36:48] team at development services was the
[1:36:50] desire to have along the northern
[1:36:52] perimeter of the property on 296 along
[1:36:55] the eastern perimeter on 190 second
[1:36:58] avenue on the um 300 street which is a
[1:37:02] street that basically bisects our
[1:37:04] project from the estimates project and
[1:37:05] then on 194th coming down um a wider
[1:37:09] 10-foot buffer and I've had some
[1:37:12] discussions about the implications of
[1:37:14] that, but I I think the belief and
[1:37:16] desire was that that buffer um would
[1:37:18] provide again for some visible um
[1:37:21] greater plantings that would provide an
[1:37:23] opportunity for um again folks driving
[1:37:26] through to see a more lushly landscaped
[1:37:28] area rather than folks um not having
[1:37:31] that 10-ft buffer along those
[1:37:33] thoroughares and just being able to see
[1:37:35] more into the backyards of homes. What
[1:37:37] we're proposing here is um with that
[1:37:40] additional 10 feet of planting is and those 10 feet of planting will have
[1:37:44] trees, not bushes. So those trees
[1:37:46] obviously with the rain that we get in
[1:37:48] South Florida will grow and we'll
[1:37:49] provide for a canopy and and a visual
[1:37:52] break um where you know you you won't
[1:37:55] really see on avocado in 192nd in a few
[1:37:57] years the homes that are behind it
[1:38:00] because those lots and we were counting
[1:38:02] them and and most of the lots have eight
[1:38:03] trees across their backyard. Um, so
[1:38:06] they're they're they'll grow and they'll fill out. Um, one other point on
[1:38:10] that that I can confirm. I was asked a
[1:38:12] question by Councilwoman Avula, so I'll jump the gun here is um we are um
[1:38:18] planting um hedges and and and what
[1:38:22] we're doing is they're on the plans
[1:38:24] shown as 3T tall um but they will grow
[1:38:27] to six feet. Now if we plant taller and
[1:38:30] we have one of our sort of land
[1:38:32] development folks here from LAR today.
[1:38:34] If we plant taller hedges today, they
[1:38:36] have to be planted further apart because
[1:38:38] their root structure is larger. If you
[1:38:40] do that, they might stay there. They'll be full size, but because they
[1:38:44] have to be planted further apart
[1:38:46] initially, you'll create gaps. So,
[1:38:48] you'll have the taller, but you'll
[1:38:50] create gaps. And so your concern of
[1:38:52] somebody walking on the sidewalk on 296,
[1:38:55] being able to look into someone's
[1:38:56] backyard would actually be less um
[1:39:00] contained than planting them at 3 ft
[1:39:02] closer and allowing them to grow in to
[1:39:05] their full size of 6 feet. But since
[1:39:06] they're planted at a closer time, they
[1:39:08] grow in and and get closer together. So
[1:39:10] if we plant them taller, they have to be
[1:39:12] planted further apart and they don't
[1:39:14] come in quite as fully and you end up
[1:39:15] with gaps. That's what the plan shows
[1:39:17] today. My hope is that that would
[1:39:19] ameliate your concern because the
[1:39:22] intention is that that does grow to be
[1:39:24] approximately six feet. The fence is 5
[1:39:26] feet that would be six feet on like 6'2.
[1:39:28] So again, unless you're talking about
[1:39:30] someone very tall and by the way, those
[1:39:32] folks would then have to see across 10
[1:39:34] ft wide of trees. So, I I think
[1:39:37] hopefully we we can address um I started
[1:39:39] writing it down as a condition for
[1:39:41] possible approval this evening, but I
[1:39:43] believe what's shown today is the 3 ft
[1:39:47] um tall as a space that will provide for
[1:39:50] that canopy. But I know you've got staff
[1:39:51] here that you can ask that for our our
[1:39:53] goal would be to create, you know,
[1:39:55] something that is that is private. So, I
[1:39:57] did want to talk about that a little
[1:39:59] bit. Um I will say that we are um we we
[1:40:03] have a you know we will be providing a a
[1:40:05] flag. So the middle the one middle green
[1:40:08] parcel that you see there um right there
[1:40:11] um serves two purposes. It's not really
[1:40:12] a common amenity. It is a lift station
[1:40:14] and it is the mailbox kiosk because as
[1:40:16] you all know the US postal service no
[1:40:18] longer delivers to every home. They they
[1:40:20] deliver to um a centralized location for
[1:40:23] every development across the country.
[1:40:25] That is not something we can get out of.
[1:40:26] So that that will have the mailbox kiosk
[1:40:28] and that will also have the lift station
[1:40:30] that we need for our project. Um and so
[1:40:32] we will have a flag there which is the
[1:40:34] kind of the center point of that
[1:40:35] community on 300th street and 194th
[1:40:38] Avenue. I can also say that if it's the
[1:40:40] wish of this council we are happy to
[1:40:42] include a um I had to look up what it's
[1:40:44] called but it's called a flag pole
[1:40:46] bracket and we can install flag pole
[1:40:48] bracket on each home as we construct
[1:40:51] those homes. Um and and you know folks
[1:40:54] can then fly as we discussed sometimes
[1:40:55] it's football season you fly a
[1:40:57] Hurricanes flag or a Notre Dame flag and
[1:41:00] uh uh that was for you Councilman
[1:41:02] Fletcher. Um better luck next year. Um
[1:41:06] but um but obviously American flag
[1:41:08] during all the all of our holidays, an
[1:41:11] Easter flag, well whatever the case may
[1:41:12] be. So the homes will all come with a flag pole bracket. I know that was requested. And again, um, I'll leave some time to discuss, um, I I
[1:41:21] touched on the CD, um, the ability to
[1:41:24] limit the CDD from any future expansion
[1:41:26] when the CD item is before you. So, I I
[1:41:28] had it in my notes that I wanted to
[1:41:30] comment on. And the other one was for
[1:41:33] those lots um,
[1:41:38] in block 10 um, which is the the the
[1:41:42] least deep lots. Um we have some I we
[1:41:46] have some options in which we could
[1:41:48] ensure that even with the slightly
[1:41:50] they're still 131 feet deep. I don't
[1:41:52] want anyone to think that these are like
[1:41:54] not deep lots but other lots are 135 140
[1:41:59] 142. So the loss of those three feet
[1:42:01] does impact the usability when you add
[1:42:03] in the setbacks and and so it would be a
[1:42:06] little more challenging for the five
[1:42:07] homes in that block to for instance add
[1:42:10] a pool but just for those five it it
[1:42:12] would you know be a little bit more
[1:42:14] difficult. We do have a solution. we can
[1:42:16] select and put certain models there, the
[1:42:20] smaller models. And obviously since
[1:42:21] they're smaller, there's a little bit
[1:42:22] more room in the back. If if this
[1:42:24] council wishes, we can have a
[1:42:25] conversation during questions, but that
[1:42:28] would ensure that even those five homes
[1:42:31] um would have the opportunity for that
[1:42:33] family that purchases the home to add a
[1:42:35] pool at a later date and have the room
[1:42:37] for it, which, you know, again, not
[1:42:38] every house has a pool and some folks
[1:42:40] may never add one, but giving the option
[1:42:42] is is always a good one. So, um I think
[1:42:44] we've kind of hit on all of the themes
[1:42:46] and we had a lot of questions and I've
[1:42:47] tried to anticipate some of the
[1:42:49] questions um that you've all asked
[1:42:51] already, but I suspect you'll have a few
[1:42:53] more and I'm happy to answer those. Um
[1:42:55] you know, for us, it's about being
[1:42:58] compatible to a recent approval. It's
[1:43:00] about being compatible to the area and
[1:43:02] the community. It's about not seeking
[1:43:04] greater density than that which the
[1:43:05] master plan allows. It's at coming in at
[1:43:08] 1.98 dwelling units per acre where you
[1:43:11] could have up to 2.5. That's what your
[1:43:13] master plan says. It's not, you know,
[1:43:15] not us picking a number. Um, it's about
[1:43:17] making sure that the project is
[1:43:18] compatible and will be something proud.
[1:43:21] And, um, you know, on that note, I leave
[1:43:23] you with scrolling through some of the
[1:43:25] architecture, which, you know, I often
[1:43:27] get more comments. Listen, architecture
[1:43:29] is tough. Colors, everybody, you know,
[1:43:31] we all like what we like, but we did go
[1:43:34] for something different. Lar certainly
[1:43:36] hasn't built this type of home in their
[1:43:38] community. Um, they built a lot more on
[1:43:40] the east side. It's a different typology
[1:43:42] of architecture here. As you can see the
[1:43:45] homes, you know, with the sighting, the
[1:43:47] different color garages. I mean, there's
[1:43:48] a lot that's being done here. Um, homes
[1:43:51] that have their garages on the side, for
[1:43:53] instance. I mean, obviously state homes
[1:43:55] and so you hide the garage entirely. You
[1:43:56] provide relief and elevations at the
[1:43:59] different places. Um, predominantly
[1:44:01] one-story models since the lots are
[1:44:02] bigger. Um, we do and as you can see in
[1:44:05] this graphic and in this one here, there
[1:44:07] are some some two-story models for the
[1:44:09] families that need a little more space
[1:44:11] or want the privacy. Some folks like to
[1:44:12] have their bedroom upstairs, whatever
[1:44:13] the case may be. But again, um, options
[1:44:16] and models and I think color palettes
[1:44:18] that um, hopefully complement a lot of
[1:44:21] what you're seeing um, and and the
[1:44:24] sighting and some of the architectural
[1:44:25] features that uh, hopefully are are um,
[1:44:28] amanable and um, acceptable to to the
[1:44:31] council. and we worked on some of those
[1:44:32] obviously with your development services
[1:44:34] director too. So, um I leave you with
[1:44:36] the pretty pictures because that's
[1:44:37] always the way to do it. I would urge
[1:44:39] you this evening to um approve all four
[1:44:42] requests before you. I will leave it to
[1:44:43] your attorney to tell you the order. Um
[1:44:45] I thank you all for your time because I
[1:44:47] know we met on several occasions with
[1:44:49] all of you and I look forward to
[1:44:50] answering your questions. Thank you.
[1:44:52] >> Thank you, Mr. Arza. Let me before we
[1:44:54] jump into any questions we may have, let
[1:44:57] me look to the audience and online and
[1:45:00] see if there are any members of the
[1:45:02] public who wish to speak either in favor
[1:45:05] or against
[1:45:07] this package of applications. Is there
[1:45:10] anyone online,
[1:45:12] anyone in the audience would wish to
[1:45:15] speak with respect to
[1:45:18] this new development?
[1:45:21] Okay, then
[1:45:23] last chance. I'll close the public
[1:45:26] hearing then and open it up to council's
[1:45:28] questions and comments who'd like to
[1:45:30] kick it off.
[1:45:34] » All right, go ahead.
[1:45:35] >> Don't all jump at once.
[1:45:37] >> It's and I'm going to say a lot of the
[1:45:38] stuff I want to say are things we've
[1:45:40] already discussed. Okay, good.
[1:45:41] >> Um
[1:45:42] >> I tried I tried I had my list here. It's
[1:45:45] >> um I will I won't be supporting the
[1:45:47] zoning change, but I'm assuming it'll
[1:45:48] pass. And so with that, I'll continue
[1:45:50] with my other comments. Okay. The growth
[1:45:52] is coming, but what we can control is
[1:45:56] whether or not the growth is going to
[1:45:57] erase our image and replace it or if
[1:46:00] it's going to reflect uh what we want it
[1:46:03] to reflect, which is our our homestead
[1:46:05] and agricultural roots and lifestyle
[1:46:07] that we want to preserve. We want it to
[1:46:09] mesh well with our future. Um I can
[1:46:12] appreciate the architectural design that was um
[1:46:18] displayed in this in this plan. I
[1:46:20] appreciate the color scheme. I think it
[1:46:22] looks modern and fresh and can appeal to
[1:46:25] the the the message that I'm trying to
[1:46:27] relay here. What what I am a little
[1:46:29] disappointed with is the landscaping um
[1:46:32] plan in general. I know you mentioned
[1:46:34] about the the hedge, which I can
[1:46:36] understand that they if the hedge is the
[1:46:39] type of plant that can grow to six feet,
[1:46:41] fine. But the pictures that I saw are
[1:46:43] small, more ground covered type of
[1:46:45] hedges that maybe can grow to two feet.
[1:46:48] Um, so I'd like to see that um be more
[1:46:51] specific. And with regards to the just
[1:46:56] the way that the sidewalk uh maybe is
[1:46:58] shaped instead of straight lines, more
[1:47:00] ergonomic or uh curvier shapes. I I
[1:47:04] would have loved to see some more um
[1:47:08] influences for agricultural gardentot
[1:47:10] lifestyle. As you mentioned, this is a
[1:47:12] step up, right? Maybe these families are
[1:47:14] more mature. They have older children.
[1:47:16] they're maybe getting into their uh more
[1:47:18] mature years as parents and spending
[1:47:21] more time at home and gardening and
[1:47:23] things like that. There's the other
[1:47:25] community that we're using as a as a
[1:47:26] base for this one had um garden raised
[1:47:29] garden beds as part of their their site
[1:47:31] plan accommodations. Uh so, you know,
[1:47:35] are these things that you have already
[1:47:37] considered and can potentially um add to
[1:47:39] this to this project? And um and I and I
[1:47:43] hope so because LAR has been very
[1:47:46] successful in creating Agrahood style uh
[1:47:49] communities in Florida and and I would
[1:47:52] expect that you you know that that Lenar
[1:47:54] could be the example and the the can set
[1:47:57] that um standard here in Homestead. Um
[1:48:00] we really don't have a lot of
[1:48:02] opportunity to make these design um
[1:48:05] initiatives um because of everything
[1:48:08] getting built out. So if this is going
[1:48:10] to I would really encourage council to
[1:48:13] try to try to
[1:48:16] include these types of aspects. the
[1:48:18] porches could have been more prominent
[1:48:20] so that you have that um inside that
[1:48:23] more outside living appeal
[1:48:26] and um
[1:48:30] and I think
[1:48:32] you know the fact that there's no HOA is
[1:48:34] definitely a plus but that could have
[1:48:37] been the mechanism to maybe helped with
[1:48:40] um creating um more
[1:48:45] outside areas and amenities for the
[1:48:47] families to enjoy. that could that could
[1:48:49] promote that agricultural loving
[1:48:51] lifestyle. And you know, I know that
[1:48:52] there's the debate of
[1:48:55] that's not the buyer we want to attract,
[1:48:56] but that's the that's the buyer we want
[1:48:58] to have here in Homestead, one who's
[1:48:59] going to continue to promote the voice
[1:49:02] of we're Homestead. We're not other
[1:49:05] areas. So, I I'll rest there. I'd love
[1:49:07] to hear the comments of um of my
[1:49:10] colleagues and and um reserve for
[1:49:13] response later. Thank you.
[1:49:15] >> Thank you, Councilwoman.
[1:49:17] Vice Mayor Bailey.
[1:49:19] >> Thank you, Mayor.
[1:49:21] I definitely would like to hear some
[1:49:23] more comments from you all as well. Um,
[1:49:26] you know, a lot of times when these
[1:49:28] variances come up, there is no hardship
[1:49:31] and we understand that it's a matter of
[1:49:35] maybe making it a little more uniform,
[1:49:36] getting a couple more units in there,
[1:49:39] which I can appreciate is in the end
[1:49:41] going to lower the price a little bit
[1:49:43] for our residents. But at the same time,
[1:49:47] Um, offering to put in a smaller house
[1:49:50] so that they can potentially have a
[1:49:51] pool. Definitely not what we're looking
[1:49:55] for. Um,
[1:49:56] >> to be fair, I mean, the smaller house
[1:49:58] is, I think, still about 3,000 square
[1:49:59] feet. I mean, no one would be I mean,
[1:50:01] it's still a a large home, but just I
[1:50:03] mean, I I if I said it that way, I just
[1:50:05] want to clarify that point. I mean, it's
[1:50:07] not a small home.
[1:50:09] >> I understand that. But to get into the
[1:50:12] thinking about that, then I just start
[1:50:14] going in these crazy rabbit holes of
[1:50:17] trying to imagine what people would
[1:50:19] want. And obviously we are none of us
[1:50:21] are ever going to know. Um, but this is
[1:50:24] one of the last lots that we have for
[1:50:27] these halfacre homes and there is a very
[1:50:30] big difference from the smallest to what
[1:50:34] should be approved. So, raised gardens,
[1:50:38] that was one of one of the small pieces.
[1:50:41] Um,
[1:50:43] that was concessioned for that other
[1:50:47] >> project. Um,
[1:50:50] for me, the side setbacks and the
[1:50:53] backyards are key for homestead. I feel
[1:50:56] like a lot of us do um do our living
[1:51:00] outside of the house as well. Uh, the
[1:51:02] porch is a good is a good point. that
[1:51:04] maybe would be a better concession. I
[1:51:07] know that you're not asking for a
[1:51:08] setback of the 50. What is it? 50.
[1:51:11] >> Yes, front is 50.
[1:51:12] >> Is it 52?
[1:51:14] >> 50.
[1:51:15] >> Um,
[1:51:17] so that's a that's a lot of front yard.
[1:51:20] >> I think that most most people it is a
[1:51:23] backyard thing, but if it does pass
[1:51:27] again that we can um consider having a
[1:51:31] larger porch.
[1:51:33] Um, side setbacks obviously aren't an
[1:51:36] issue here. Um, but that's one thing
[1:51:39] that after you you visit somewhere and
[1:51:42] you just feel that house right next to
[1:51:44] you, that's not um not what we're
[1:51:48] looking for. Um, flag pole bracket,
[1:51:52] right? But we need to talk a little
[1:51:54] more. Um so hence the I would like to
[1:51:58] hear more from my colleagues just because um
[1:52:06] yeah
[1:52:09] I would the one thing I'm glad about is
[1:52:12] that block 11 where they're
[1:52:18] the backyards are facing each other
[1:52:22] before we were able to talk specifics
[1:52:25] with the dimensions there.
[1:52:28] I was going to be a definite no because
[1:52:30] they look smaller than
[1:52:32] >> the middle block or sorry
[1:52:34] >> then block block 10 and 12.
[1:52:35] >> Right. Right.
[1:52:36] >> So 11
[1:52:38] >> if you can point to that.
[1:52:39] >> Yeah. Which is
[1:52:40] >> those are the three blocks with the
[1:52:41] small.
[1:52:42] >> Right. Right. And so that one I have.
[1:52:43] Yeah. There you go.
[1:52:44] >> So they end up being 30
[1:52:49] » 135 to 136 deep. not the 131 of block
[1:52:53] 10. Block 12 is also 135 to 136 deep.
[1:52:57] So, um 10 is the one that is by about 5t
[1:53:01] on average less deep
[1:53:03] >> and then those backyards would be 29
[1:53:05] >> width there
[1:53:06] >> 100 ft.
[1:53:07] >> 100.
[1:53:07] >> Yeah. Yeah. The lots are 100 ft wide.
[1:53:10] >> Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean the the homes I
[1:53:12] mean we have no sight setbacks. So, um
[1:53:14] and we have no um lot frontage. The lot
[1:53:18] size varies but not a lot frontage. So
[1:53:19] these homes are going to be your
[1:53:23] neighbor's home and your home are going
[1:53:25] to be to code as far as your code
[1:53:28] requires. So there is no seeing like you
[1:53:31] know it's it's even if this were being
[1:53:33] developed without the size variance lot
[1:53:36] size variance the distance between the
[1:53:39] structures would be exactly the same.
[1:53:40] >> Right. Right. So so we we're not you
[1:53:42] know and that does go a long way to
[1:53:45] giving folks a sense of privacy. Right.
[1:53:46] You can't reach out and touch. I mean,
[1:53:48] no, you've got, you know, 40 to 50 ft
[1:53:50] between you and your neighbor's house
[1:53:51] with your property lineed the way. So,
[1:53:53] there is an ample difference.
[1:53:55] >> And is this one of those projects where
[1:53:57] you are going where LAR is going to
[1:54:00] reach out to potential buyers for them
[1:54:03] to choose the size of the home that goes
[1:54:06] or
[1:54:06] >> Yeah. No, they they absolutely I mean,
[1:54:09] so LAR will will sell it'll have a sales
[1:54:11] center. It'll have a really
[1:54:13] >> a few of the models available. all the
[1:54:15] models if if approved the the the
[1:54:17] various models that you would have and
[1:54:18] then typically a buyer they can correct
[1:54:22] me but I've done this enough times I
[1:54:23] mean a buyer would come in a family they
[1:54:25] come in they look at a lot they may be
[1:54:27] interested in a home and then they
[1:54:29] that's how they generate their price we could in an effort to ensure that
[1:54:34] anyone who ultimately buys a home in
[1:54:36] block 10 we could say in for these five
[1:54:39] out of 119 for these five homes your
[1:54:42] choice is limited to these smaller again
[1:54:45] 3,000.
[1:54:46] >> So that's going to be their that's going
[1:54:48] to be their preference. Maybe the 29 ft
[1:54:51] backyard is perfect for them because
[1:54:52] they just want a small patio. So that's
[1:54:55] my point is they would be able to see
[1:54:57] that and know I'm choosing the
[1:54:58] twobedroom or the threebedroom and I'm
[1:55:00] not getting a pool or vice versa.
[1:55:02] >> More like three or four or five. But
[1:55:04] yes, bedrooms. Yes. Yes. I'm absolutely
[1:55:06] right. My backyard. the smallest any of
[1:55:08] those backyards could be would be 29
[1:55:11] >> for the two smallest models. Um either
[1:55:15] of the two smallest models in block 10
[1:55:17] would permit for a 10 by 15.
[1:55:19] >> Correct. But regardless of the size of
[1:55:21] the house, the smallest backyard would
[1:55:23] be 29 ft.
[1:55:25] >> I'd have to double check that. That's a
[1:55:27] number I didn't crunch, but I can. It's
[1:55:29] here. Okay. I mean I Is that
[1:55:31] >> the setback? The required setback is 25.
[1:55:36] >> and you are comp
[1:55:38] >> right so it sounds like yeah because we
[1:55:40] weren't right at the
[1:55:41] >> 25 could be more depending on the
[1:55:44] >> so I guess yes we weren't asking for
[1:55:46] variance so it could have it could have
[1:55:48] been as small as 25 but yes then it's 29
[1:55:52] I'm sorry I gave you that sheet I didn't
[1:55:53] get it back so
[1:55:54] >> I said I I said I'd have it here you
[1:55:56] never came
[1:55:57] >> it's okay so yeah I just didn't have it
[1:55:58] but yes so if that's what that says that
[1:56:00] would be
[1:56:00] >> what other concessions come to mind that
[1:56:02] you can throw out there before My
[1:56:04] comments.
[1:56:04] >> Well, look, I I I'll touch on the the
[1:56:06] issue of the planter boxes. We've talked
[1:56:08] about that. I mean, obviously, Aspen
[1:56:10] Estates, I don't think it's sold out or
[1:56:11] is selling yet. Um, as an offer, as an
[1:56:14] option, I I think we'd be happy to make
[1:56:16] that available to buyers. I think you,
[1:56:19] Councilwoman, I'm going to use your
[1:56:20] words, you yourself said. I mean, look,
[1:56:22] you know, most people if they want that
[1:56:23] will go to Home Depot and buy that for a
[1:56:25] few hundred dollars. I mean, I don't
[1:56:26] think that this is a, you know, but if in an effort to have it be a nod to a
[1:56:31] continuation of a theme. Um, making it
[1:56:35] so that they don't have to go to Home
[1:56:36] Depot that it could be something that
[1:56:38] could be placed there for them, you
[1:56:40] know, a an herb little herb garden or
[1:56:42] whatever the case may be, flowers,
[1:56:44] something to to promote. Um,
[1:56:46] >> to be fair, that was just an example.
[1:56:48] And with the Aspen Estates, they
[1:56:50] actually had a home a homeowners
[1:56:52] association that was going to promote
[1:56:54] special programming within the community
[1:56:56] where there would be,
[1:56:57] >> you know, more participation, organized
[1:57:00] participation. But the I think the
[1:57:02] example is that
[1:57:03] >> it's a very small gesture, right?
[1:57:06] >> That could mean a lot and could
[1:57:08] encourage somebody who may not otherwise
[1:57:10] take the time to do it to start trying.
[1:57:12] >> Yeah. I I don't I don't think we have
[1:57:14] any objection to making that, you know,
[1:57:16] to making that something that can be
[1:57:17] offered. just to
[1:57:18] >> if the programming isn't there in the
[1:57:20] HOA to help with it, then at the same
[1:57:22] time it is a $200 pain in the neck for
[1:57:26] someone.
[1:57:26] >> Sure. Yeah. Well, they can choose it.
[1:57:28] But I'm saying that's what I'm saying. I
[1:57:29] think we can make it an option that we
[1:57:31] would go ahead and when it gets built
[1:57:33] install it so that nobody's got to go do
[1:57:35] it later. That's what I'm offering. And
[1:57:37] that way that might be a person that
[1:57:38] thinks that they want to do it. Yeah. I
[1:57:40] mean, I think it's a I mean, personally,
[1:57:42] I think most homeowners would rather not
[1:57:44] pay an additional HOA fee to, you know,
[1:57:46] I mean, your city has a lot of programs
[1:57:48] to promote farming. I mean, I think
[1:57:49] there's a lot of other ways that folks
[1:57:50] could probably address that, but we
[1:57:52] could give them the option, and I'm
[1:57:53] happy to include giving them the option
[1:57:55] as as an opportunity.
[1:57:57] >> Um,
[1:57:58] >> I mean, thank you.
[1:58:00] >> Thank you, Councilwoman. Council
[1:58:02] Fletcher,
[1:58:04] >> I'll just uh start by saying uh
[1:58:07] ultimately I've never been a fan of the
[1:58:09] architecture that's ever been provided
[1:58:11] to us on any of these projects. Okay. Uh
[1:58:14] but that's my personal preference.
[1:58:17] >> Okay. Uh LAR sells properties all over
[1:58:19] the United States with different styles
[1:58:20] and you could go to their website and
[1:58:22] see and I I may like one more than the
[1:58:24] other. Not up to me. I'm not buying this
[1:58:26] house. I live where I live. I never
[1:58:27] thought I'd like the Mediterranean style
[1:58:29] I live in, but I love it. Um, so I think
[1:58:32] it to each their own when they're buying
[1:58:34] a home. Uh, I I believe the lot sizes
[1:58:37] are comparable to what we've approved in
[1:58:39] the past. Uh, again, would I like to
[1:58:42] have larger lots? Absolutely. But I
[1:58:45] think ultimately they're going to be in
[1:58:47] relation to what folks like as far as
[1:58:50] setbacks concerned. I would like to see
[1:58:52] more circular driveways with the larger
[1:58:54] front yards. But again, that's my inner
[1:58:58] architect out there and nobody's going
[1:59:00] to agree with me on everything. Um,
[1:59:06] I will just have to to say that the the
[1:59:08] buyer is going to have to to make their
[1:59:10] choice when they buy the house. Um, I I
[1:59:12] can support this tonight based on what
[1:59:14] it's at.
[1:59:16] Again, the color palettes, there's going
[1:59:18] to be offered different colors, but if
[1:59:19] you look at most of the developments in
[1:59:21] town, they're all the same color. And
[1:59:23] I'm not a fan of that. But again, that's
[1:59:25] the buyer's preference at that point.
[1:59:27] Um, I don't want to put too many
[1:59:29] restrictions on the the builder because
[1:59:31] those restrictions start costing more
[1:59:32] money and and the houses become more.
[1:59:34] So, I'll rest it there for now and I'm
[1:59:37] open to hearing the other comments and I
[1:59:39] may change my mind on one or two things.
[1:59:41] Thank you.
[1:59:42] >> Thank you, Councilwoman Fledge.
[1:59:44] Oh, who wants to jump in? Councilwoman
[1:59:47] Ksky or Councilwoman Roth first?
[1:59:51] Go ahead. Council Councilwoman Ksky.
[1:59:54] Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um, Mr. Arza, um,
[1:59:58] you're in my neighborhood.
[2:00:00] >> Yes, you told me.
[2:00:01] >> Yes. And on our farmland.
[2:00:04] >> And what? I'm sorry.
[2:00:04] >> And on our farmland, which is very near
[2:00:07] and dear to me and to the neighboring
[2:00:09] um, residents that live there. Um I have
[2:00:12] stressed my concern that you are on the
[2:00:15] cusp of the Redlands and um my concern
[2:00:20] in you being conducive to what is in the
[2:00:23] Redlands even though this is Homestead.
[2:00:26] Um I understand that development is
[2:00:28] coming.
[2:00:29] >> There's not much that we can do to stop
[2:00:30] it. Um but I want you to consider the
[2:00:34] uniqueness of the area. Um, I'm very
[2:00:38] saddened to see what the county has
[2:00:39] approved to the west of you as we're
[2:00:42] making that transition into those larger
[2:00:44] lots, larger homes, a true estate house
[2:00:47] where people have customuilt their home
[2:00:48] and made it exactly what they want, that
[2:00:50] uniqueness that the Redland uh area
[2:00:53] offers. So, that has always been my
[2:00:55] concern with you is that um
[2:01:00] I hate to use the word cookie cutter,
[2:01:01] but you know, it's it when they all look
[2:01:04] the same as as Mr. Fletcher has pointed
[2:01:06] out. Um I'm I don't favor that either.
[2:01:11] Um
[2:01:12] >> the term plan development.
[2:01:13] >> Plan development. Sorry.
[2:01:15] >> No, but your point is taken.
[2:01:18] >> I agree with um Councilwoman Avala as
[2:01:22] well that you know we're trying to
[2:01:25] retain what we can of our farmland.
[2:01:28] Um,
[2:01:30] I just want to represent my my district
[2:01:33] well
[2:01:34] >> and know that I want to offer them the
[2:01:37] best I can with what's coming down the
[2:01:38] road. I whether it's today or tomorrow,
[2:01:40] I'd rather see homes of a larger scale,
[2:01:43] larger lot line, uh, land. you know, if
[2:01:46] we're going to make this unique like an
[2:01:47] estate home, let's give them room like
[2:01:49] we discussed for recreation vehicles,
[2:01:52] their boats, their their pole barns,
[2:01:54] their workshops, you know, um this is a
[2:01:58] smaller scale to what they could
[2:02:00] possibly buy in the Redlands instead of
[2:02:02] buying two and a half or five acres to
[2:02:03] build on. You're offering something
[2:02:05] different. So, let's offer them that,
[2:02:07] you know, let's let's um make it
[2:02:10] something that it will transition. Well,
[2:02:12] that that's always been my request. So,
[2:02:15] um, I'll rest there.
[2:02:17] >> Yeah. And we talked about this and just
[2:02:19] to point out, I mean, obviously, I think
[2:02:20] with the vast majority of the lots being
[2:02:22] 19, 18, 19, 20,000, I mean, your city
[2:02:26] regulations will govern um the use that
[2:02:30] you're referring to. I mean, and there
[2:02:31] are for the vast majority of the these
[2:02:34] properties, there are 40 or 50 by 40, 50
[2:02:38] feet wide entire areas in their
[2:02:40] backyards where they can build an
[2:02:41] accessory structure, where they could
[2:02:42] build all that. nothing is prescribed by
[2:02:44] what we're proposing here. Admittedly,
[2:02:47] some of the smaller lots may not be able
[2:02:48] to enjoy all of those um opportunities.
[2:02:51] You know, maybe you can't have, you
[2:02:53] know, all of those. By the way, in the
[2:02:55] county, you can't have multiple
[2:02:56] accessory units unless you get special
[2:02:58] permission either. So, it's it's, you
[2:03:00] know, it's on a smaller scale, but
[2:03:02] nothing here prescribes if they meet
[2:03:04] your code otherwise. This is not a PUB
[2:03:07] or something where we're going to tell
[2:03:08] people as long as they meet code. I
[2:03:10] mean, if somebody wants to do, you know,
[2:03:12] an accessory in the backyard such as the
[2:03:14] ones we were talking about, um, they
[2:03:16] would be able to do so. Um, and for a
[2:03:19] lot of the lots, um, they will, they
[2:03:21] would have room. They could choose to do
[2:03:22] that instead of a pool or do a smaller
[2:03:24] pool and do that. So, that option will
[2:03:25] be there. As you said, on a smaller
[2:03:26] scale, the 2 and a half or 5acre parcel,
[2:03:29] and you know this because of your line
[2:03:30] of work, is considerably more expensive.
[2:03:33] And so, it is a trade-off. and a family
[2:03:35] may say, "Well, this gives me a new
[2:03:36] home." The ability to do one of those
[2:03:38] things and, you know, get a taste of all
[2:03:41] of that. Undoubtedly, if they could,
[2:03:44] they, you know, perhaps would love to
[2:03:45] buy the 2 and 1/2acre parcel outside.
[2:03:47] Um, but that one comes at probably twice
[2:03:50] the cost. We would know better, but I
[2:03:52] think it's hard to find a 2 and 1
[2:03:53] halfacre parcel in the Redlands for less
[2:03:54] than a million and a half or maybe more.
[2:03:57] These homes are going to be half, a
[2:03:58] little more than half the price. It's a
[2:04:00] trade-off. I mean, these are families
[2:04:01] that are going to come into your
[2:04:02] community. we'll still be able to do
[2:04:03] some of those things admittedly on a
[2:04:05] smaller scale. So I I mean we're trying
[2:04:07] to find that balance
[2:04:10] council.
[2:04:13] Okay.
[2:04:15] So I'm really torn as the grant as
[2:04:18] someone who's lived here my entire life
[2:04:20] who had his brothers
[2:04:23] this would remain a farm field. That's
[2:04:26] not reality. And I don't really think
[2:04:29] that that's what's trying to be saved
[2:04:31] here. I think what's trying to be saved
[2:04:33] is the atmosphere
[2:04:35] >> of more open spaces and you know as on
[2:04:40] one hand as the grandson of somebody who
[2:04:42] built a lot of custom homes throughout
[2:04:44] Homestead and the Redlands built what
[2:04:46] people wanted as they wanted it. nothing
[2:04:49] ever looks alike versus the reality of
[2:04:53] the cost of land, the cost of
[2:04:55] construction, and the time value of of
[2:05:00] money. So
[2:05:02] to I think to both of Councilwoman Ksky
[2:05:06] and and Alvala's point, you know, this
[2:05:09] is a unique potential for a unique
[2:05:11] neighborhood where people have plenty of
[2:05:14] room to live outside.
[2:05:16] >> Typically in their backyard,
[2:05:20] >> we're not Mayberry. People aren't living
[2:05:22] on their front porches. Maybe someday
[2:05:25] when redevelopment comes on the west
[2:05:27] side of downtown on a larger scale than
[2:05:30] Pioneer Village, maybe. So,
[2:05:33] uh, my neighborhood, you know, and and I
[2:05:35] get you didn't want to come here with
[2:05:37] too many variances.
[2:05:39] You know, I think most everybody knows
[2:05:40] where I live. My house is set back about
[2:05:42] 25 ft and I've got room for three
[2:05:46] massive oak trees in the front yard.
[2:05:50] thinking out loud and and and it just
[2:05:52] dawned on me here tonight that on the
[2:05:55] size lots that we're talking about, a 50
[2:05:59] foot setback for a front yard is the
[2:06:03] waste of a lot of space.
[2:06:06] That you're killing the backyard.
[2:06:11] Thinking out loud,
[2:06:13] even at 35 feet, you still have plenty
[2:06:17] of room for the circular driveway,
[2:06:20] the the the pad going into the garage.
[2:06:23] It could accommodate a car without being
[2:06:27] out in the sidewalk or or blocking the
[2:06:29] street. And I'm wondering if
[2:06:34] your concern, my colleagues concerns of
[2:06:36] open space and cramped backyards could
[2:06:39] be alleviated
[2:06:41] by layering in everybody being at a
[2:06:45] front setback of 35 ft to create
[2:06:50] backyards that are 15 feet deeper. Now
[2:06:54] look, I don't know if anybody and
[2:06:55] everybody wants planting beds, but if we
[2:06:59] want to create old South Dade and Old
[2:07:03] Homestead,
[2:07:04] we could talk about every backyard
[2:07:07] coming with some fruit trees or an
[2:07:09] avocado tree or a mango tree or what
[2:07:12] have you as part of the landscaping
[2:07:16] plan.
[2:07:18] Yeah, I hate to say it, but this is this
[2:07:20] is not going to be a property. the folks
[2:07:23] who are selling it are not
[2:07:25] agriculturalist. We're we're way beyond
[2:07:28] that. So, if it's a look and a feel and
[2:07:31] an atmosphere,
[2:07:33] and again, just thinking out loud, I'm
[2:07:36] wondering if to a certain extent that
[2:07:38] could be adjusted by moving everything
[2:07:40] up to the 35- foot setback line
[2:07:45] and and layering in a couple of kinds of
[2:07:48] fruit trees in the backyard somewhere
[2:07:51] like old Miami, old Pinerest before it
[2:07:54] was Pinerest where every, you know, the
[2:07:56] ones that are left, they got massive
[2:07:58] ancient ancient mango trees in the uh in
[2:08:02] the backyard. So,
[2:08:05] dispensing with all that theoretical uh
[2:08:09] frustrated architect and and planner
[2:08:12] when we first talked about this, you
[2:08:15] know, we obviously made the analysis to
[2:08:17] the DR project to the south and I'm
[2:08:19] sorry, the name of the subdivision
[2:08:20] escapes me.
[2:08:21] >> Aspen estates.
[2:08:22] You know, we're trying
[2:08:24] kind of making a onetoone comparison.
[2:08:28] One of the issues we had in Aspen
[2:08:30] Estates was it was all singlestory
[2:08:33] >> and I think we talked about that when
[2:08:35] you first came to visit me and to me
[2:08:38] that's very appealing and I understand
[2:08:40] here you've got at least one
[2:08:42] >> we have one twotory model
[2:08:43] >> twotory model
[2:08:44] >> right
[2:08:45] >> um
[2:08:45] >> the majority of the models are one story
[2:08:47] >> yeah um and echoing Councilman Fletcher
[2:08:52] not that that's great but these designs
[2:08:54] are a step up from what we have seen in
[2:08:57] Homestead in deep south aid. So to that
[2:08:59] extent, I'll compliment your client
[2:09:01] who's who's with you uh today. So So I'm wondering if and I understand it's a
[2:09:09] major adjustment. And going back to the
[2:09:11] drawing board, if that would ease some
[2:09:14] of the discomfort some of you have
[2:09:18] with this entire package
[2:09:21] by moving the houses slightly forward to
[2:09:24] create larger backyards that can
[2:09:27] accommodate the pole barns, the sheds,
[2:09:30] the pools, and fruit trees and shade
[2:09:34] trees.
[2:09:36] Councilwoman,
[2:09:37] >> thank you, Mayor. You know what I was
[2:09:39] really what I really would like to have
[2:09:41] is the client take ownership of of
[2:09:44] bringing forward the ideas as we off the
[2:09:46] cusp here. We can think of a couple
[2:09:48] things.
[2:09:48] >> Well, that that requires variance to be
[2:09:50] fair.
[2:09:50] >> Well, and I understand that and I think
[2:09:52] that if you're showing us a 50 a 50 foot
[2:09:55] front yard and a 10-ft backyard like
[2:09:58] doesn't make sense to us. So, you know,
[2:10:00] sometimes contractors will call their
[2:10:02] inspection so that it can fail, hear
[2:10:04] what you need to do, and then call back
[2:10:06] the inspector to pass the second time.
[2:10:08] And I think this is the opportunity for
[2:10:09] you to take it back, redesign the the
[2:10:12] backyard
[2:10:14] and bring us some options that a
[2:10:17] potential buyer could select from that
[2:10:19] promotes the agricultural and preserves
[2:10:22] the agricultural components of our
[2:10:23] community. So, bigger yards, um, the
[2:10:28] fruit trees.
[2:10:29] >> Well, you just do it rather than have it
[2:10:31] as an option. You just
[2:10:32] >> Right. But you know,
[2:10:34] >> and that would be in their landscaping
[2:10:35] plan
[2:10:36] >> in their landscaping plan
[2:10:37] >> that we would approve,
[2:10:38] >> right? The single stories. What I would
[2:10:41] like to see as well is just maybe, you
[2:10:43] know, instead of it being square lines
[2:10:45] or straight lines, give show me some movement in the design. Um, and
[2:10:52] Lenar Larara is an excellent corporate
[2:10:54] citizen, right?
[2:10:56] I'm not going to ask you guys to help us
[2:10:58] create programming, but
[2:11:01] profer something. You're asking for a
[2:11:02] variance like help us get there.
[2:11:05] >> So, I'll rest again. Thank you.
[2:11:07] >> And and that's the difference. You know,
[2:11:09] I like traditional old neighborhoods
[2:11:12] with the straight streets because you've
[2:11:15] got a heavy landscaping plan that
[2:11:17] basically hides the density
[2:11:21] that is, you know, the straight line is
[2:11:24] more in line with what was traditionally
[2:11:27] on the west side than the curvy linear
[2:11:30] streets.
[2:11:30] >> I think I messed up.
[2:11:31] >> Did Yeah.
[2:11:33] >> Okay. Yeah, I was thinking, you know,
[2:11:35] because Yeah, the streets. But just
[2:11:38] thinking out loud, 50 feet of front yard
[2:11:41] in my neighborhood, cuz those lots are
[2:11:43] essentially, you know, my neighborhood
[2:11:45] runs from 15,000 and I'm on a little
[2:11:48] over 20,000. 50 ft of front yard is a
[2:11:52] lot of wasted space. Um,
[2:11:56] I think it it would make for a much more
[2:12:00] livable and usable
[2:12:03] piece of property. Mayor if I may
[2:12:05] >> also early on um in in our city
[2:12:09] manager's um appointment there was a lot
[2:12:13] of discussion about creating a community
[2:12:14] benefits package. I have I haven't seen
[2:12:17] that. I I don't recall seeing one on on
[2:12:21] previous developments in the recent
[2:12:24] um you know in the recent applications.
[2:12:26] Is there a community benefits package
[2:12:28] that I'm overlooking in this case?
[2:12:30] >> Nothing beyond impact fees and and the
[2:12:32] like.
[2:12:34] All right. So that so that might be an
[2:12:35] opportunity for for us to consider
[2:12:38] >> coming. So I think the city attorney is
[2:12:41] going to do a comprehensive code rewrite
[2:12:45] which is where he's going to embed some
[2:12:46] of these initiatives into the city code.
[2:12:51] » Well, go ahead, Vice Mayor.
[2:12:54] >> Thank you. if if if if it's going the
[2:12:57] way I think it is tonight and they have
[2:12:59] a chance to go and reimagine
[2:13:01] uh maybe also look at you know if you're
[2:13:03] moving the house closer to the street
[2:13:06] allow for that potential extra accessory
[2:13:08] building in the backyard similar to
[2:13:10] maybe a one-bedroom with a small garage
[2:13:12] type scenario workshop like we kind of
[2:13:15] have in Westberry now to have that
[2:13:18] potential there where you could put a
[2:13:20] in-law if you needed to down the road to help with those type of issues.
[2:13:27] >> Let's don't double density. Let's find a
[2:13:29] place to to to put your boat and your
[2:13:31] play cars. Not
[2:13:33] >> not renters that create more solid
[2:13:35] wasters. It'd be more like again more family type oriented like we would
[2:13:40] do back in the old days,
[2:13:41] >> right? I think you know there is
[2:13:42] experience here because Lenar leads on
[2:13:44] that nextgen product where you can have
[2:13:46] it's there's a sandwich family where you
[2:13:48] have the the parents raising their
[2:13:49] children but their the grandparents are
[2:13:51] also with them and that's the village
[2:13:53] concept but um
[2:13:56] >> and I'm open to something like that
[2:13:58] again just uh if it were in mine I I
[2:14:01] would live in a condo without any yard
[2:14:03] and and I'd want a garage to go with it
[2:14:05] a big garage. So,
[2:14:08] thank you. But, you know, I And look, I
[2:14:11] don't know because we've got we've got a
[2:14:13] reasonzoning, which you're entitled to
[2:14:15] because of the comp plan overlay.
[2:14:19] Your next item, your next just to to
[2:14:21] recap so we're all on the same page. You
[2:14:24] got the reasonzoning
[2:14:26] from AU
[2:14:27] to estate density
[2:14:29] >> A2
[2:14:30] >> to A2
[2:14:32] >> which you're entitled to because of our
[2:14:34] longstanding
[2:14:38] overlay. And then the next question
[2:14:40] becomes how are you going to lay the
[2:14:43] lots out? And so the next item per vote
[2:14:46] would be the variance correct
[2:14:49] >> for the lot sizes. If the variance
[2:14:52] fails,
[2:14:53] >> you go no further than
[2:14:55] >> correct
[2:14:56] >> than that. And you know this, I'm not
[2:14:58] preaching lawyer just so that we all,
[2:15:00] >> you know, kind of take a step back and see where we are in the uh in the
[2:15:06] process. So let me ask you this.
[2:15:10] Hypothetically speaking,
[2:15:14] what would be the expense and time frame
[2:15:19] to layer in
[2:15:22] a variance for a 35 rather than a 50ft
[2:15:25] setback?
[2:15:28] >> Realistically, it probably would take us
[2:15:30] two months to get back here. And my
[2:15:31] guess is, you know, you have to redo all
[2:15:33] the plans. Everything needs to be shown.
[2:15:35] You got to get it to the city. The city
[2:15:37] has to review. We've already looked at
[2:15:39] everything else.
[2:15:41] >> Then I mean I I won't put them on the
[2:15:43] spot. Then you know I mean I can assure
[2:15:45] you the director our our yeah our
[2:15:47] architects would prepare that and get it
[2:15:49] to the city and you know by early next
[2:15:51] week something like that. Obviously that
[2:15:53] will require an additional item and then
[2:15:56] that's you know
[2:15:56] >> well but that's just a a text filing.
[2:15:59] You're not
[2:16:00] >> relocating and redrawing
[2:16:03] >> your lots.
[2:16:03] >> Well I think I think we do show
[2:16:05] depictions on all of the sites of the
[2:16:07] distance. all of your development
[2:16:09] services folks are nodding. So yeah, I
[2:16:10] think those have to now I mean look
[2:16:12] that's that's a CAD program that and I'm
[2:16:15] speaking the only people not here
[2:16:16] tonight are the architects and I'm
[2:16:17] putting words in their mouth but we
[2:16:18] could probably get that to you guys in
[2:16:20] short order. We would have to of course
[2:16:22] file an application for an additional
[2:16:24] variance request staff would prepare
[2:16:26] their um undoubtedly recommendation of
[2:16:29] denial because there would be no
[2:16:31] hardship necessarily. You bring up great
[2:16:32] points. Trust me that you said it like
[2:16:35] we try not to ask for any other
[2:16:36] variances. It it stands to reason that
[2:16:39] 50 foot front yard is a really big front
[2:16:41] yard and 35 or 40 would would you know
[2:16:44] still look nice and would just give
[2:16:45] people that extra room. Um but it would
[2:16:47] be an additional item that would come
[2:16:48] with
[2:16:49] >> basically we're doing R1 lots under an
[2:16:51] A2
[2:16:53] category.
[2:16:55] >> Uh
[2:16:55] >> homestead R1, right?
[2:16:57] >> No, your R A R R1 would be 7500. We're
[2:17:01] not doing that.
[2:17:02] >> Okay.
[2:17:02] >> Yeah. No. Um, we're doing kind of
[2:17:06] county eum plus, right? Like nothing is
[2:17:10] smaller than doing
[2:17:10] >> because let's not kid ourselves. I some
[2:17:13] kind of development is going to happen.
[2:17:16] >> Yeah.
[2:17:16] >> On this site at some time.
[2:17:19] >> Mayor, I I suspect if we if your front
[2:17:22] setback was 40t in your code or 35, we
[2:17:25] would have designed it to 40 or 35 and
[2:17:27] we may not be having this discussion. So
[2:17:30] it's 50. We don't like to ask for a lot
[2:17:32] of variances. We were trying to match
[2:17:34] something. So now if we go through and
[2:17:38] submit, revise our plans, whatever has
[2:17:40] to be depicted, file the application and
[2:17:43] show it, you will have an additional
[2:17:44] variance, but we could certainly address
[2:17:48] >> a number of the concerns because you'll
[2:17:49] have more
[2:17:50] >> that could overcome the open space
[2:17:52] concern.
[2:17:52] >> Right. You you'll have more usable open
[2:17:54] space,
[2:17:55] >> backyard usability.
[2:17:56] >> Exactly. Yeah. you'll have more usable
[2:17:58] open space to provide wasted space,
[2:18:01] >> right? And I think as you put it that
[2:18:02] it's it's not you're not preserving
[2:18:04] farmland say that you can preserve a a
[2:18:07] >> the field with additional obviously
[2:18:10] backyard with more trees or the
[2:18:12] potential then to have that accessory
[2:18:13] size which again a lot of the lots do
[2:18:16] provide for that but certainly if you
[2:18:18] move the houses forward,
[2:18:19] >> right?
[2:18:19] >> You know then those lots will be that
[2:18:21] much more and even the smaller lots will
[2:18:23] all have ample backyards to do at least
[2:18:25] some of those things. So, um, look, you
[2:18:28] know, obviously we can, um, appreciate
[2:18:31] some of the comments and I can read the
[2:18:33] room. Um, you know, certainly we would
[2:18:35] welcome an opportunity to think down
[2:18:37] those lines, but I do want to be clear
[2:18:39] on the record. That would be an
[2:18:40] additional
[2:18:40] >> clearance. Sure. Let me let me ask the
[2:18:42] attorney though and I put you on the
[2:18:44] spot not and not practice on my own up
[2:18:46] here. If
[2:18:49] the reasonzoning passed tonight, our
[2:18:51] next item is the variance from the lot
[2:18:55] sizes.
[2:18:57] If that passes, we go on to the next two
[2:19:00] votes and everything moves forward.
[2:19:03] If the variance were to fail,
[2:19:08] in order for that to come back, there
[2:19:11] would have to be a motion for rehearing
[2:19:14] by someone who voted against the
[2:19:18] variance. And only at that point would
[2:19:21] you be in position
[2:19:24] to bring an application back that would include the variance for the law
[2:19:33] size and the setback. Is that fair?
[2:19:37] >> James the way that it works in your code
[2:19:39] is that if you denied it, you would deny
[2:19:41] it with either prejudice or not with not
[2:19:43] prejudice. And the difference is whether
[2:19:45] you can bring it back in six months or a
[2:19:47] year.
[2:19:49] You you you could uh look, it's an
[2:19:52] irrelevant point. I I think you could
[2:19:53] also It's an irrelevant point because
[2:19:55] I'm probably not going to I'm going to
[2:19:57] hope that we don't even get to that vote
[2:19:59] if it's not going to pass. But I also
[2:20:02] think you could you could pass you could vote it down in theory and um
[2:20:09] remove the six-month cooling off period.
[2:20:11] Correct.
[2:20:13] No, I I do I do, but I want to but the
[2:20:16] lawyer in me wants to answer the
[2:20:17] question. I mean, certainly I want to
[2:20:19] get the project approved this evening.
[2:20:20] >> He could do that, but he's got to get
[2:20:22] client approval.
[2:20:23] >> Yeah. I mean, I I would prefer I mean, I would um think it would show, you
[2:20:29] know, you know, to my client at least
[2:20:31] some some ability to move forward some
[2:20:32] faith that we could I mean, if the
[2:20:34] property could be reszoned to your
[2:20:35] point, you could take the first vote,
[2:20:37] property gets
[2:20:38] >> second reading and you
[2:20:39] >> and then, you know, reszone the
[2:20:41] property. I mean, this is an appropriate
[2:20:43] category. you have a recommendation of
[2:20:44] approval and then we would respectfully
[2:20:47] prior to the second the variance item
[2:20:50] potentially failing and I you know can
[2:20:52] count to seven or four um not much
[2:20:56] higher than that that's why I'm a lawyer
[2:20:57] um we would respectfully ask that you
[2:20:59] defer the remaining items let us discuss
[2:21:02] with staff and then we could modify the
[2:21:04] application to include potentially an
[2:21:06] additional variance and move and come
[2:21:08] back to you I would rather not get into
[2:21:10] denying it and and having to resubmit
[2:21:13] reapply because that that does require
[2:21:15] you to file the application a new which
[2:21:17] is a bunch of costs and I know I don't
[2:21:19] think anybody
[2:21:20] >> it's
[2:21:22] going to go forward in some form and we
[2:21:25] don't want to put undue burden we're not
[2:21:28] giving away the farm pardon the pun
[2:21:30] we're not giving away the farm here
[2:21:31] tonight but we don't want to put an
[2:21:33] undue in unblue do burden
[2:21:37] >> out there
[2:21:38] >> um do you need us to take a break and
[2:21:41] have you confer with your client Yeah, I
[2:21:43] mean I I I' I'd like to Yeah, for for
[2:21:45] sure. I don't think I need more than
[2:21:46] couple.
[2:21:47] >> Let's recess for five minutes. Allow you
[2:21:50] to confer with your client. Yes,
[2:21:51] Councilman Fletcher.
[2:21:53] >> And I'll also make a motion to extend
[2:21:54] the meeting to 9:30.
[2:21:56] >> Okay, so we got that. Let's move to
[2:21:57] extend this meeting to 9:30. I'll second
[2:21:59] that. All in favor?
[2:22:01] >> Any opposed? All right. So, my iPhone
[2:22:05] says it's 8:23. So, at let's just say
[2:22:07] 8:30, we will come out of recess.
[2:33:54] Okay, we'll call this meeting out of
[2:33:56] recess and back in session.
[2:34:01] » Mr. Ar.
[2:34:02] >> Yes, mayor. So, um, thank you for the
[2:34:04] time to confer with my client. So, um,
[2:34:07] what we've got more than anything else
[2:34:08] is a bit of a time crunch as you know.
[2:34:10] application was submitted well over a
[2:34:12] year ago. It's just taken time to get
[2:34:14] here. Even first reading was a couple
[2:34:15] months ago. So, we've just kind of lost
[2:34:16] some time along the way. Um, and so, you
[2:34:20] know, we've got sellers that have
[2:34:21] expectations that, you know, believe
[2:34:23] we'd be done this evening and we'll have
[2:34:25] to go back to them and secure
[2:34:26] extensions. And more than half of you on
[2:34:28] this board are real estate professionals
[2:34:30] of one type or another. So, you know how
[2:34:31] that process can go sometimes. So, um,
[2:34:34] you know, we believe we could do so, but
[2:34:36] we'd be very hardressed not to do it for
[2:34:39] more than to next month's meeting. So,
[2:34:42] um we we really, you know, we just think
[2:34:43] the sellers, you know, might want to
[2:34:45] extract too big a a pound of flesh, so
[2:34:48] to speak, if we ask for more time than
[2:34:50] that, um one that would be unsailable.
[2:34:53] So, um I if our team could resubmit or
[2:34:58] submit
[2:35:00] um the additional variance and the
[2:35:03] revised site plan, um the additional
[2:35:05] variance would be a front setback
[2:35:06] variance and the revised site plan to
[2:35:08] show then that the homes are closer to
[2:35:11] the front by close of business on
[2:35:13] Monday, which is the 27th, I believe. um
[2:35:18] you know of of April um you know I would
[2:35:21] love for there to be some communication
[2:35:24] today that they could staff and the
[2:35:27] administration could start working I
[2:35:28] mean look they have the recommendation
[2:35:29] of denial for the existing variance
[2:35:31] they're going to I know the
[2:35:32] recommendation
[2:35:33] >> it's the same analysis
[2:35:34] >> it's the same exactly so if if we had I
[2:35:37] mean in good faith and we've worked with
[2:35:39] I work with m storage for 20 years if in
[2:35:41] good faith we can all agree that we will
[2:35:43] get it in by close of business on Friday
[2:35:45] to give by Monday excuse today. I I just
[2:35:47] kind of, you know, it's they're not
[2:35:48] going to look at this till tomorrow. So,
[2:35:50] by Monday, close of business um for
[2:35:54] staff to receive, evaluate. There's no
[2:35:56] DRC, additional special DRC. I mean,
[2:35:59] this is part of a project that's been
[2:36:01] looked at for over a year. Um and that
[2:36:04] we would be back here for the main
[2:36:05] meeting. um with the deferred items plus
[2:36:07] the additional variance, you know, we
[2:36:10] will go to the sellers and, you know,
[2:36:11] hope that we can, you know, make it work
[2:36:13] with just the additional month. I think
[2:36:15] to get into anything longer than that
[2:36:16] might imperil the ability
[2:36:18] >> Let me let me ask the director, is that
[2:36:20] within the realm of possibility to
[2:36:22] review a variance?
[2:36:23] >> The important thing is that you define
[2:36:25] as soon as possible the the variance
[2:36:28] that you are going to ask for because we
[2:36:30] need to advertise for that. The rest we
[2:36:32] are going to we are going to defer. So
[2:36:34] if the size of the lots remain the same
[2:36:37] and that's the only thing we need to
[2:36:38] request, we need to know that as soon as
[2:36:40] possible to have time to advertise, send
[2:36:43] the notices and
[2:36:44] >> it will I think the the council
[2:36:46] expressed the desire to see a 35 foot
[2:36:49] front setback. So our Right. Is that
[2:36:51] what you said, Mayor? 35.
[2:36:52] >> I said 35. Yeah,
[2:36:53] >> 35. Right. So I mean the request would
[2:36:55] be consistent with front a variance of
[2:36:59] the front setback where all lots require
[2:37:01] a 50 foot front setback to 35 ft and you
[2:37:04] know and then obviously the pictures
[2:37:06] need to depict that but that for legal
[2:37:08] purposes and I don't know James I mean
[2:37:09] that I mean that's pretty stand. Yeah, I I'm not concerned the legal
[2:37:14] I I can I can commit to having the legal
[2:37:17] description or the legal request for the
[2:37:20] variance to staff by Friday and then
[2:37:23] we'll work on it tomorrow and get it
[2:37:24] done by Friday. That's the part that I
[2:37:25] can do. I'm not an architect. I don't
[2:37:27] want to put in their mouths redoing the
[2:37:29] plan. I need to let those professionals
[2:37:31] do their job. We'll have that by Monday,
[2:37:32] but that would be there by Friday, which
[2:37:34] I mean, again, I know you got it
[2:37:36] advertised for next month or so. Um,
[2:37:38] with that again, I I think it would help
[2:37:41] us and go a long way and hopefully in
[2:37:42] the spirit of compromise if the
[2:37:43] reasoning, which we all agree this is an
[2:37:45] appropriate category can occur, give
[2:37:47] some comfort to our sellers
[2:37:49] >> to work with us. We don't want them to
[2:37:51] run for the hills. um and and and make
[2:37:54] this, you know, an impossibility and
[2:37:55] then defer the remaining three items.
[2:37:57] >> Yeah, the three items
[2:37:58] >> and and come back then with, you know,
[2:38:00] those three plus an additional one and
[2:38:03] layer in some of the other things as as
[2:38:04] now that we have room and we can do so
[2:38:06] then then we'll look into obviously some
[2:38:08] of the other concerns that were brought
[2:38:09] in and see what else we can we can add.
[2:38:11] But that's the big
[2:38:12] >> Okay, appreciate that. So, yes, vice
[2:38:14] mayor.
[2:38:14] >> Thank you, mayor. Um, first staff there
[2:38:16] in the middle, that block 11 where the
[2:38:19] backyards are facing each other. We're
[2:38:22] talking about moving the homes closer to
[2:38:26] the front. But what does that look like
[2:38:29] for their backyard? Is that going to be
[2:38:31] some type of entrance on the side of
[2:38:33] everyone's house if they want to take a
[2:38:36] boat to the back? How does that even
[2:38:38] work?
[2:38:40] >> They still got the width. That doesn't
[2:38:43] >> doesn't change anything.
[2:38:44] >> Right. But I'm I'm trying to picture
[2:38:47] what that looks like. If you're the
[2:38:49] house in the middle, you're going to
[2:38:50] drive your boat between the two homes to
[2:38:53] your backyard.
[2:38:54] >> No, there's no house in the middle. The Sorry, let me back.
[2:38:58] >> There's There's only two houses. So,
[2:39:00] everybody comes from a street and goes
[2:39:01] to their backyard.
[2:39:06] » The fronts.
[2:39:07] No,
[2:39:10] >> these backyards are touching each other.
[2:39:12] They're facing each other. So, how does
[2:39:14] this person get their boats in their
[2:39:16] backyard
[2:39:18] >> from the front?
[2:39:19] >> This is the front
[2:39:21] >> through the middle. That's what I meant.
[2:39:22] Between two homes. So, on their side.
[2:39:26] >> Okay. I just wanted to make sure that
[2:39:28] the side setbacks would allow if that's
[2:39:31] the point of this whole thing. I think
[2:39:33] that I think that you your architect
[2:39:36] should re relook at that and see maybe
[2:39:39] you the 10 setback is the minimum
[2:39:41] setback required. Maybe you need there
[2:39:43] to leave 50. So 15 so they can drive to
[2:39:46] the to the backyard
[2:39:47] >> but currently it's only 10.
[2:39:49] >> Well that's your code again.
[2:39:51] >> So if we're talking about the point of
[2:39:52] having boats and and additional
[2:39:55] >> there goes your two hours in front only.
[2:39:57] then that that serves no.
[2:39:59] >> But that's just for those smallest lots
[2:40:01] and people are going to have to
[2:40:02] understand that. But you're you're
[2:40:04] enhancing everyone else's backyard.
[2:40:06] >> No, we're only talking about 10, 11, and
[2:40:09] 12. Or are we talking about the entire
[2:40:11] >> We're talking about the entire
[2:40:12] >> No, I mean the the moving to the front
[2:40:14] we understood to mean
[2:40:16] >> the whole project moving the houses
[2:40:18] >> so that everybody's backyard is bigger,
[2:40:19] right?
[2:40:20] >> Give everybody a bigger backyard.
[2:40:22] >> Yeah. Yeah. Not just for those three
[2:40:25] >> within the confines of the existing
[2:40:28] drawing.
[2:40:30] >> Will you be able to meet with us
[2:40:32] >> between now and and Monday even
[2:40:34] virtually to consider some
[2:40:37] >> just to continue the conversation?
[2:40:38] >> Yeah, of course. Of course.
[2:40:40] >> And the landscaping improvements.
[2:40:42] >> Yeah.
[2:40:42] Okay.
[2:40:44] >> You mean the the fruit trees are Does
[2:40:46] your code prohibit that?
[2:40:47] >> Some codes I know are funky about fruit
[2:40:49] trees.
[2:40:50] >> The fruit trees. And my last well
[2:40:52] >> I just want to make sure we don't
[2:40:53] >> that would be supple supplemental to
[2:40:55] what's already required in the code.
[2:40:56] >> Okay. But it isn't prohibited. You don't
[2:40:58] have a a prohibition on Okay. Good.
[2:41:01] >> On canker trees. C canker trees.
[2:41:03] >> Director with the new item that's coming
[2:41:05] up regarding landscaping and the
[2:41:07] requirements. This project wouldn't fall
[2:41:09] in line.
[2:41:10] >> Doesn't change anything.
[2:41:12] >> Yeah, it already.
[2:41:14] >> Vice Mayor, if I may step in. Thank you.
[2:41:16] Um, these are going to be private ride
[2:41:19] rightways or public roads.
[2:41:21] >> The perimeters are public. The interior
[2:41:23] private publicly accessible. Private
[2:41:27] meaning the CDD will maintain them. So,
[2:41:29] they're 50 foot, but they are designed
[2:41:30] at the same width 50 ft that all roads
[2:41:33] are. It's just that the CDD will
[2:41:36] maintain them. So, the taxpayer and
[2:41:38] homestead won't maintain those. The
[2:41:40] perimeter ones are in the case of 296 is
[2:41:43] the county road. So in effect in simple
[2:41:46] terms, these are private roads.
[2:41:48] >> The the interior, not the exterior.
[2:41:49] >> Yes, the interior. Ungated private
[2:41:52] >> ungated private roads. Yes.
[2:41:54] >> Thank you.
[2:41:57] >> Okay.
[2:41:58] >> Anything further from council? All
[2:42:00] right. So, first item we're going to
[2:42:03] have a motion and a vote on is the
[2:42:06] request for the resoning, which is tab
[2:42:11] 15.
[2:42:13] So moved by Councilman Roth, second by
[2:42:15] Councilwoman Cannibal.
[2:42:17] Have a roll call vote on tab 15 for the
[2:42:19] reszoning.
[2:42:20] >> Councilwoman Abula,
[2:42:22] >> no.
[2:42:23] >> Councilwoman Ksky,
[2:42:24] >> no. Councilman Ross,
[2:42:26] >> yes.
[2:42:27] >> Councilman Fletcher,
[2:42:28] >> yes.
[2:42:29] >> Councilman Cannibal,
[2:42:31] >> Vice Mayor Bailey,
[2:42:32] >> yes.
[2:42:33] >> Mayor Losner,
[2:42:34] >> yes.
[2:42:34] >> The motion carries.
[2:42:36] >> Okay. Now, and you're requesting a def
[2:42:39] 16, 17, and 18. the remaining three
[2:42:42] >> move to defer.
[2:42:44] >> All right. So, we have a motion by
[2:42:45] Councilwoman Avala and I think a second
[2:42:47] from Ksky, Councilwoman Ksky, to defer
[2:42:51] items tab 16, 17, and 18, which I assume
[2:42:55] we'll have to have separate votes on. Is
[2:42:56] that correct, Mr. Attorney?
[2:43:01] » You can do it.
[2:43:03] >> All right. So, we're that's a global
[2:43:05] motion for tab 16, 17, and 18. the
[2:43:08] variance, the site plan and the T plat
[2:43:11] >> to to next month.
[2:43:13] >> Yes. To the date,
[2:43:18] » which is
[2:43:20] >> May 20th.
[2:43:21] Okay.
[2:43:24] All right.
[2:43:26] >> So, roll call vote on the motion to
[2:43:28] defer.
[2:43:30] >> Councilwoman Ksky,
[2:43:32] >> yes. Councilman Cannaval, yes.
[2:43:34] >> Councilwoman Abula, Councilman Raw,
[2:43:36] >> yes.
[2:43:37] >> Councilman Fletcher,
[2:43:38] >> yes.
[2:43:39] >> Vice Mayor Bailey, yes.
[2:43:40] >> Mayor Osma, yes.
[2:43:41] >> The motion carries.
[2:43:43] >> All right. Thank you, Hugo.
[2:43:44] >> We'll see you. We'll speak much sooner,
[2:43:46] but we'll see you next time. Thank you,
[2:43:48] >> Mr.
[2:43:49] Hello.
[2:43:50] >> Hugo.
[2:43:52] >> One thing, when you come next time,
[2:43:55] >> just say we move the houses 15 ft and
[2:43:58] stop it there. You talk too much, man.
[2:44:01] or I lose or I lose your vote. You guys
[2:44:03] heard it. I can't get into a back and
[2:44:05] forth.
[2:44:06] >> Thank you. Thank you.
[2:44:11] >> All right.
[2:44:12] >> Okay. Moving on to tab 19, car number
[2:44:16] 4980.
[2:44:18] This is a resolution of the city of
[2:44:19] Homestead, Florida granting final plat
[2:44:21] approval as requested by Castellanos at
[2:44:23] Coral Way, Inc. for the development of
[2:44:25] an approximately 20,252t
[2:44:28] building.
[2:44:29] >> 12. We did it on the LPA, but we didn't
[2:44:31] do it here. The warehouse, the entity of
[2:44:35] title was to have 12.
[2:44:37] >> No, those are those are both legislative
[2:44:39] items that we're going to take.
[2:44:40] >> Okay, we're going to finish the quasi
[2:44:41] judicial. I'm sorry.
[2:44:44] >> As you were saying,
[2:44:46] >> for the development of an approximately
[2:44:47] 20,252t
[2:44:49] building consisted of a medical center
[2:44:51] and two retail spaces on an
[2:44:53] approximately 1.04 04 acre parcel of
[2:44:55] land located at 304 North Graham Avenue.
[2:44:58] Legally described in exhibit A Friday
[2:44:59] for an effective date.
[2:45:02] >> Thank you. Any questions or comments
[2:45:04] from council? Was a final plat.
[2:45:08] >> Did they move the dead palm tree in the
[2:45:10] front of the building?
[2:45:12] >> They I I can report to that. They they
[2:45:16] remove that uh palm tree, the one that
[2:45:18] was dead,
[2:45:19] >> but they don't have a CO yet. They just
[2:45:21] have a TCO. So before getting the final,
[2:45:25] I put a hold on the CO and the condition
[2:45:27] is that they should replace that tree.
[2:45:30] >> It's fine. Thank you. But because that
[2:45:33] looks horrible in there.
[2:45:34] >> Yes.
[2:45:35] >> All right. Very good. All right. If
[2:45:38] there are no further questions or
[2:45:39] comments from council, do we have a
[2:45:41] motion to approve the final platform?
[2:45:47] Is it 304 North Chrome? 304 North
[2:45:49] Chrome. We have a motion to approve the
[2:45:51] final plat. Moved by Vice Mayor Bailey,
[2:45:54] second by Councilman Cannibal. A roll
[2:45:57] call, please, Madam Clerk.
[2:45:59] >> Councilwoman Avula,
[2:46:01] >> Councilwoman Ksky,
[2:46:02] >> yes.
[2:46:02] >> Councilman Ross.
[2:46:04] >> Councilman Fletcher,
[2:46:05] >> yes.
[2:46:05] >> Councilman Cannibal,
[2:46:06] >> yes.
[2:46:07] >> Vice Mayor Bailey,
[2:46:08] >> yes.
[2:46:08] >> Mayor Losner,
[2:46:09] >> yes.
[2:46:09] >> The motion carries.
[2:46:10] >> So now back to tab 12.
[2:46:12] >> Yes, Mayor. So tab 12 and 13 are going
[2:46:15] to be legislative matters. So we can
[2:46:17] take those.
[2:46:18] >> Okay.
[2:46:19] >> Up now. So tab 12 car number 4951 is an
[2:46:23] ordinance of the city of Homestead
[2:46:24] Florida amending the city code of
[2:46:25] ordinances by amending chapter 25
[2:46:27] subdivision and platting article one and
[2:46:29] general section 25-1 definitions and
[2:46:31] further creating article 16 uniting
[2:46:33] title covenant in l thereof providing
[2:46:35] for severability inclusion of the code
[2:46:37] conflicts and providing for effective
[2:46:38] dates for treaty
[2:46:40] >> and we heard this at the LPA. Are there
[2:46:42] any further questions or comments?
[2:46:44] Council Fletcher approval. Moved by
[2:46:46] Councilman Fletcher. Second
[2:46:48] >> the warehouse.
[2:46:48] >> Second by me.
[2:46:49] >> Second by Councilman Cannibal. Want to
[2:46:52] make your appearance. Marissa.
[2:46:56] » Good evening. Marita Haro, office at 200
[2:46:58] South Piscane Boulevard. Available for
[2:47:00] any questions.
[2:47:04] » There are some.
[2:47:05] >> There are there's several contracts.
[2:47:08] This is one of the cleanup items to be
[2:47:10] able to close on those. Can you can you
[2:47:13] share any insight as to what the
[2:47:15] community can expect in terms of
[2:47:16] businesses coming in?
[2:47:18] >> I don't have any of that. Um I will
[2:47:20] inquire as to that and I'll be back for
[2:47:22] a second reading.
[2:47:22] >> Perfect. Thank you.
[2:47:23] >> Thank you.
[2:47:25] >> All right. We have a motion and a second
[2:47:27] on tab 12. Let's have a roll call vote.
[2:47:32] >> Councilman Fletcher.
[2:47:33] >> Yes.
[2:47:34] >> Councilwoman Ksky.
[2:47:35] >> Yes.
[2:47:36] >> Councilwoman Abilo. Yes.
[2:47:37] >> Councilman Cannibal.
[2:47:38] >> Yes.
[2:47:39] >> Councilman Ross. Vice Mayor Bailey.
[2:47:42] >> Yes.
[2:47:42] >> Mayor Lawson.
[2:47:43] >> Yes.
[2:47:43] >> The motion carries.
[2:47:45] >> And moving on to tab 13.
[2:47:48] >> Yes. Tab 13, car number 4949, is an
[2:47:51] ordinance of the city of Homestead,
[2:47:52] Florida, amending the city code of
[2:47:54] ordinances by amending chapter 29,
[2:47:55] vegetation article one, landscaping by
[2:47:58] establishing the minimum standards and
[2:48:00] landscaping regulations pursuant to the
[2:48:01] city of Homestead landscape manual to
[2:48:04] supplement the Miami Day County
[2:48:05] landscaping standards and requirements.
[2:48:08] Establishing regulations related to
[2:48:10] landscaping and irrigation certification
[2:48:12] and reertification for properties
[2:48:14] developed as multif family residential,
[2:48:16] commercial and/or industrial and
[2:48:18] providing for the enforcement of such
[2:48:20] certification and reertification and
[2:48:22] further amending article 2 tree
[2:48:24] preservation and protection by modifying
[2:48:26] regulations to clarify applicable permit
[2:48:28] fees and tree preservation trust fund
[2:48:30] contribution rates providing for
[2:48:32] severability inclusion in the code
[2:48:34] complex and providing for an effective
[2:48:35] date. is for treating.
[2:48:38] >> Hey, thank you. Question council.
[2:48:40] Councilwoman,
[2:48:41] >> thank you. I appreciate this initiative
[2:48:43] to create uh a comprehensive plan for
[2:48:46] maintaining and and encouraging for our
[2:48:49] um our developments and business
[2:48:52] community to keep up their landscaping
[2:48:54] minimum standards. Um, but I also think
[2:48:56] it's an opportunity for us to consider
[2:48:59] maybe between first reading and second
[2:49:00] reading for me to try to plug in some
[2:49:03] colorful sunflower initiatives within
[2:49:06] our city buildings and with some of the
[2:49:08] landscape designs. And I know that
[2:49:09] they're seasonal and you know there
[2:49:11] could be potentially um some encouraged
[2:49:14] and and um influential verbiage to try
[2:49:19] to promote seasonal changes within the
[2:49:22] development design standards. So if
[2:49:24] there's no objection to anyone on
[2:49:26] sunflowers and how beautiful they are, I
[2:49:28] would just like to have that
[2:49:29] encouragement.
[2:49:34] » Go ahead, council. Pleasure. So again,
[2:49:36] they are a good-looking flower, but the
[2:49:38] problem with sunflowers is once you
[2:49:40] plant one, they continue to blow
[2:49:42] throughout and they spread everywhere.
[2:49:44] Uh that's the only issue I have with
[2:49:46] them because once you plant them, they
[2:49:47] spread everywhere. But other than that,
[2:49:49] they're they're nice looking flowers and
[2:49:51] I like the idea.
[2:49:53] at my my concern would be is this this
[2:49:56] booklet enacting this is with with
[2:49:59] respect to and correct me if I'm wrong
[2:50:02] respect to the installation of permanent
[2:50:04] landscaping.
[2:50:07] We could encourage that as we plant
[2:50:11] downtown when that's
[2:50:13] rebuilt and in other places. But um
[2:50:18] sunflowers are
[2:50:21] seasonal and this
[2:50:22] >> correct you might be very right and I
[2:50:25] might bring it back in a different way
[2:50:26] but I'll just look into some options.
[2:50:28] >> Yeah I mean and I think there's an
[2:50:29] opportunity to do that but not in this
[2:50:32] guide book
[2:50:33] >> maybe not maybe not here there's some
[2:50:37] proposals to create new districts. So
[2:50:39] maybe we can incorporate that when we
[2:50:41] incorporate the new districts and things
[2:50:43] that they're going to put there for
[2:50:45] public benefit and for use of the
[2:50:47] public. Maybe we can incorporate that as
[2:50:51] a seasonal program.
[2:50:52] >> Thank you. I'll explore options. Thank
[2:50:54] you.
[2:50:55] >> You know, it's it's not a bad idea. I
[2:50:57] just don't know if it's properly
[2:50:58] included here in the permanent
[2:51:00] landscaping guide. Okay. So, Council
[2:51:04] Fletcher, you've lived here a long time.
[2:51:07] Do you remember commercially grown
[2:51:09] sunflowers or were they just pretty much
[2:51:11] cover crops,
[2:51:12] >> isolated cover?
[2:51:13] >> Cover crops for the most part other than
[2:51:15] Robert is here.
[2:51:17] >> Yeah, it's just not not as a commercial
[2:51:19] crop but a
[2:51:21] >> man.
[2:51:23] >> Dr. Fishman used to grow them 10, 20, 30
[2:51:26] acres. I used to ensure them.
[2:51:27] >> Where's that?
[2:51:28] >> Dr. Fishman, he was a a local farmer. It
[2:51:31] was a hobby, but it was his son grew
[2:51:34] sunflowers for commercial cut flowers.
[2:51:38] >> And I am I am aware of uh existing
[2:51:41] farmers, not in the city of Homestead,
[2:51:43] but local nearby that still grow
[2:51:45] sunflowers. Thank you.
[2:51:47] >> I'm just always concerned that we're
[2:51:48] going to perpetuate a fiction. You know,
[2:51:52] uh tomatoes were not a fiction. Mangoes
[2:51:54] were not a fiction. Avocados are not a
[2:51:57] fiction. Vice Mayor B,
[2:51:59] >> I just wanted to ask real quick, this is
[2:52:01] the item that I was asking doesn't apply
[2:52:04] to the last discussion item we had, the
[2:52:07] LAR project.
[2:52:09] >> This would standards,
[2:52:11] >> right? So that's what I meant is they
[2:52:13] would fall in line with this where the
[2:52:15] inspection would happen 12 months after.
[2:52:18] Okay, that's what I wanted clarity on.
[2:52:21] >> Okay. And I'm growing sunflowers in my
[2:52:23] kitchen. I'll send you pictures when
[2:52:24] they start blooming.
[2:52:27] You have to put them on the floor.
[2:52:28] They're going to get so tall.
[2:52:29] >> I have a hydroponic uh power thing. Yes.
[2:52:32] >> Okay. Neat.
[2:52:34] >> All right. Did we vote on the landscape
[2:52:37] guide?
[2:52:38] >> No. Okay. Do we have a motion and a
[2:52:41] second on the landscape guide?
[2:52:43] >> Moved by Councilwoman Avala, second by
[2:52:45] Councilman Cannibal. Let's have a roll
[2:52:47] call on the landscape guide.
[2:52:50] >> Councilman Ross.
[2:52:51] >> Yes.
[2:52:52] >> Councilwoman Ksky.
[2:52:54] >> Yes. Councilman Cannibal,
[2:52:55] >> yes.
[2:52:56] >> Councilwoman Abula,
[2:52:57] >> yes.
[2:52:58] >> Councilman Fletcher,
[2:52:59] >> Vice Mayor Bailey,
[2:53:01] >> Mayor Lawson,
[2:53:02] >> yes.
[2:53:03] >> Motion carries.
[2:53:04] >> And that takes us to tab 14.
[2:53:12] » Yes. Tab 14, car number 4982 is an
[2:53:16] ordinance of the city of Homestead,
[2:53:17] Florida, amending the city code of
[2:53:18] ordinances by amending chapter 16, local
[2:53:20] business taxes and business regulations,
[2:53:23] creating article 7, certificate of use,
[2:53:26] providing for definitions, application
[2:53:27] procedures, fees, regulation, denial,
[2:53:30] revocation and suspension of certificate
[2:53:31] of use, providing conflict severability
[2:53:33] and providing for an effective date.
[2:53:35] This is first reading.
[2:53:37] >> Thank you, Madam Director.
[2:53:39] Yes, this is the certificate of use that
[2:53:42] we are making official a process that we
[2:53:44] already has have when a new application
[2:53:46] comes. We review first if they are
[2:53:49] approvable, if they are allowed in that
[2:53:52] zoning district and then we check with
[2:53:54] the building department if the use is
[2:53:56] established or not and if it's not they
[2:53:59] need a change of use. So in this way
[2:54:02] before applying to the BTR the applicant
[2:54:04] will have to obtain the certificate of
[2:54:06] use and this after that it will be very
[2:54:09] easy to go and pay for the business tax
[2:54:11] receipt and then it lasts forever if the
[2:54:14] business is the same is the same
[2:54:16] ownership. If they change they need to
[2:54:19] come and they need to ask for a new
[2:54:21] certificate of use but that will this
[2:54:23] will give clarity and the person that is
[2:54:26] renting a a space or that is moving to a
[2:54:29] Once they have that business
[2:54:31] established, that certificate of use
[2:54:34] will clearly point to the what is
[2:54:36] allowed there.
[2:54:38] >> Okay. Thank you. Appreciate that.
[2:54:40] >> Well, let's Okay, go ahead. We'll get it
[2:54:43] on the table. Moved by Councilman
[2:54:44] Cannibal, second by Councilman Roth. So,
[2:54:47] I'll open the floor to questions and
[2:54:48] comments on this item.
[2:54:51] >> Council Fletcher.
[2:54:53] >> Yes. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Uh although I
[2:54:55] think something like this is needed, I
[2:54:56] think we need to have a little more
[2:54:58] detail as to what the overall impact's
[2:55:01] going to be. I would request that we
[2:55:03] defer this to a to a special call or a
[2:55:05] workshop to uh understand what the
[2:55:08] impacts could be because I think it's
[2:55:10] going to be quite significant to someone
[2:55:12] who may be a a small office and they decide to add an additional person
[2:55:17] to their office that could uh possibly
[2:55:19] affect costs.
[2:55:21] >> That that doesn't apply. For example, if
[2:55:23] you call a medical office and you have
[2:55:26] 15 doctors and then you're going to
[2:55:27] change and have 17, you just come, you
[2:55:29] add the doctors, but that doesn't change
[2:55:32] the use of the business. It's just
[2:55:34] adding one more professional to to the
[2:55:36] business.
[2:55:37] >> Councilman, if I may,
[2:55:39] >> please.
[2:55:39] >> Thank you. And not to um um
[2:55:44] discredit the work that's been done by
[2:55:45] the development services department and
[2:55:47] staff in general, but I did have similar
[2:55:48] concerns. And so I'll move to defer this
[2:55:50] item.
[2:55:55] Second it
[2:55:57] >> with the with the we need to have a
[2:56:00] workshop I think to discuss this.
[2:56:04] >> Yeah. you know, and and I I had asked a
[2:56:06] lot of these questions, some probably
[2:56:07] some of the same questions you had on my one-on-one, and I was I was prepared
[2:56:12] to talk about some of the questions and
[2:56:13] concerns and and amendments that I'd
[2:56:15] like to see just and I'll go ahead and
[2:56:16] put them out there for, you know, the
[2:56:18] future discussion was that I don't know
[2:56:20] that a change in ownership or business
[2:56:22] name should trigger the requirement of a
[2:56:26] CU
[2:56:27] that take that off the table, but um
[2:56:33] with a caveat Because we see a lot a lot
[2:56:35] of these issues that if in the event of
[2:56:39] a change of name or ownership, we might
[2:56:43] want to leave the opportunity open to
[2:56:45] bring signage in comp into compliance
[2:56:48] and landscaping into compliance. But
[2:56:50] beyond that, to to open up a property
[2:56:54] just by virtue of someone selling their
[2:56:57] business or bringing in a partner and
[2:56:59] changing their name, I don't know that would would merit uh having to go
[2:57:04] through the uh certificate of use uh
[2:57:07] process. Just those were some of the
[2:57:09] thoughts I had. Um you know that we can
[2:57:12] address it you know next reading or
[2:57:14] workshop what whatever that may uh may
[2:57:17] be. You know it's an interesting balance
[2:57:19] between We can't allow buildings that
[2:57:22] clearly have violations to continue
[2:57:25] forever, but we want to be respectful of
[2:57:28] businesses who
[2:57:30] are continuing. Um, it's going to be a
[2:57:34] real educational process though, I
[2:57:36] think, that we're going to have to to be
[2:57:38] very attuned to with respect to realtors
[2:57:40] and commercial landlords because they're
[2:57:43] the ones who are going to bear some of
[2:57:44] the brunt and we don't want folks
[2:57:46] signing a lease and putting down real
[2:57:49] money and being obligated for real money
[2:57:51] and getting into a monthsl long process
[2:57:54] either. So, if we could schedule a uh a
[2:57:57] workshop post haste, that would be a uh
[2:58:00] a good thing. So, let's have a roll call
[2:58:02] on the motion to defer. Yes, council.
[2:58:04] I'm sorry.
[2:58:04] >> Let me Yeah, because I had some
[2:58:05] concerns, too.
[2:58:06] >> Um, in reference that, but I think what
[2:58:08] this does is kind of speeds up the
[2:58:09] process so that they don't go to one
[2:58:11] department and get an approval, but go
[2:58:13] to the next department and they don't
[2:58:15] get an approval because of zoning or
[2:58:16] because of change of use. And uh there's
[2:58:19] also some safety
[2:58:22] um things that kick in. As soon as
[2:58:24] there's a a change of ownership when you
[2:58:28] come for your uh your uh business
[2:58:31] license, you automatically trigger
[2:58:33] safety inspections.
[2:58:35] >> So they have to come and they have to
[2:58:36] look at the electrical and the HVAC, you
[2:58:39] know, all the all the systems in the
[2:58:41] building which then trigger other
[2:58:43] things. they will trigger other things
[2:58:46] because as you said some of these
[2:58:47] buildings that are dilapitated or or
[2:58:49] that haven't been maintained over you
[2:58:51] know 20 40 50 years whatever um they get
[2:58:55] caught up in all that stuff. So, um, and
[2:58:57] my other thing was, and you mentioned
[2:58:58] real estate agents and and commercial
[2:59:01] property owners, um,
[2:59:05] when I had my one-on- ones, the the the
[2:59:07] biggest problem is the unsuspecting
[2:59:11] potential tenant,
[2:59:13] >> signs a lease,
[2:59:15] and then goes through the process. And I couldn't figure out and we talked
[2:59:21] about it a little bit in in in the
[2:59:22] oneonone is how do we change that where
[2:59:25] it becomes the responsibility
[2:59:27] of a property owner or a professional
[2:59:31] real estate agent that needs to disclose
[2:59:34] that there may be these challenges in
[2:59:37] the future where a change of use may be
[2:59:40] needed and that's not a one-mon process
[2:59:43] that's a six-month process
[2:59:45] >> at that. So there are a lot of things
[2:59:47] that we we can can speed up, but I think
[2:59:51] there's also things we can't change. And
[2:59:52] I think the workshop will be very
[2:59:54] enlightening to a lot of us that uh that
[2:59:57] some of most of us that are familiar
[2:59:59] with it know it, but those that aren't
[3:00:00] will learn a great deal about this whole
[3:00:03] process. So I just want to put that on
[3:00:06] there so we can talk about those things
[3:00:07] in uh whatever we do next, workshop or
[3:00:10] special call, whatever it is.
[3:00:12] >> Yes, Councilwoman. And to Councilman
[3:00:14] Roth's point, I mean, I have advocated
[3:00:15] for a long time for relationship
[3:00:18] building between the city of Homestead
[3:00:20] and our partners in the community, which
[3:00:22] include real estate professionals. And
[3:00:24] perhaps we should be hosting workshops,
[3:00:26] educational sessions in their arena, are
[3:00:30] renting out the seminal theater and
[3:00:31] inviting, you know, realtors to come and
[3:00:34] listen. You know, what is it like to go
[3:00:37] through the CU process? I mean, the
[3:00:38] South Day Chamber of Commerce do does
[3:00:40] this on a regular basis, and we're not
[3:00:44] utilizing these tools to educate the
[3:00:46] public to make our lives easier. And
[3:00:49] that's much simpler in my mind and will
[3:00:52] be received um you know, much better
[3:00:55] than a violation, an upset client, a
[3:00:57] lease gone wrong. And that just
[3:00:59] perpetuates more and more frustration
[3:01:01] and aggravation. And these are not new
[3:01:04] ideas that we've talked about. It just
[3:01:05] needs action and it needs to be rolled
[3:01:07] out. Thank you.
[3:01:08] >> Right. Thank you.
[3:01:09] >> Same thing goes for transferring
[3:01:11] utilities and that process and the the
[3:01:13] time it takes to close an account, open
[3:01:14] a new account, then you have a a closing
[3:01:17] happy closing date and they're all
[3:01:18] moving in and there's no utilities and
[3:01:20] they got to wait three days and then all
[3:01:21] the deposit. Oh, there was an
[3:01:22] outstanding bill till the seller gets
[3:01:24] that paid. I mean, this is the chaos
[3:01:26] that happens frequently and everyone
[3:01:30] blames the city of Homestead. This never
[3:01:32] happens with this never happens with
[3:01:34] Miami date county. But you know what are
[3:01:37] we doing about it? So sorry broken
[3:01:39] record. Turning it off.
[3:01:40] >> So let's vote on the motion to defer.
[3:01:44] >> Councilwoman Aula.
[3:01:46] >> Yes.
[3:01:46] >> Councilman Ross.
[3:01:47] >> Councilwoman Ksky.
[3:01:49] >> Yes.
[3:01:49] >> Councilman Cannibal.
[3:01:50] >> Yes.
[3:01:51] >> Councilman Fletcher.
[3:01:52] >> Yes.
[3:01:52] >> Vice Mayor Bailey.
[3:01:53] >> Yes.
[3:01:54] >> Mayor Losner.
[3:01:54] >> Yes.
[3:01:55] >> The motion carries.
[3:01:57] >> So that should take us to
[3:02:00] >> 20.
[3:02:04] Tab 20 is the first reading of an
[3:02:05] ordinance of the city of Homestead,
[3:02:07] Florida, amending the budget for the
[3:02:08] general fund for the fiscal year
[3:02:09] beginning October 1, 2025 and ending
[3:02:11] September 30th, 2026 by increasing the
[3:02:14] total budgeted revenues and expenditures
[3:02:15] by $50,000, providing for severability
[3:02:18] and an effective date.
[3:02:21] >> Right. This is just to move the the the
[3:02:23] match for a grant we approved months
[3:02:26] ago.
[3:02:26] >> So, yeah, he moved it. I'm seconding it.
[3:02:28] >> All right.
[3:02:29] >> I would like more apple blossoms in
[3:02:31] district five.
[3:02:33] They'll die.
[3:02:34] >> Apple blossom trees will die.
[3:02:36] >> They're all over the Northwest.
[3:02:38] >> Am I talking about the right tree?
[3:02:40] >> So,
[3:02:40] >> we might know by different names.
[3:02:42] >> Oh, maybe the orchid trees. Those are be
[3:02:44] some people call them apple blossoms.
[3:02:49] » Give us the opportunity to check the
[3:02:51] application for the grants. Usually they
[3:02:53] will ask you to specify the tree species
[3:02:56] before.
[3:02:56] >> No, I'm just putting it on the record
[3:02:58] that if there's an opportunity, please, please, more
[3:03:02] >> flowerbearing trees. Thank you.
[3:03:04] >> Your district's too affluent. Remember
[3:03:06] those grant applications we approved
[3:03:08] pretty much wipe you out because you're
[3:03:11] not as poor as the rest of
[3:03:13] >> No, District 5 in its entirety is within
[3:03:15] the CDBG block.
[3:03:17] >> Let me remind you, please,
[3:03:18] >> mayor and council, let's put some
[3:03:20] context to this. This item is for a tree
[3:03:23] sensors.
[3:03:24] >> I understand for the grants for trees
[3:03:26] will consider your recommendation.
[3:03:28] >> Right.
[3:03:28] >> Yes. Thank you. I am taking the
[3:03:29] opportunity to vocalize.
[3:03:31] >> Thank you.
[3:03:34] >> Not until I get my royal palms back on
[3:03:36] Chrome Avenue that I've been bitching
[3:03:38] about for four years.
[3:03:41] >> That the DOT killed when they widened
[3:03:43] Chrome Avenue.
[3:03:45] >> Yes, I said it.
[3:03:48] >> That's a That was a Rotary project. Yes.
[3:03:51] Roll call on the tree census grant.
[3:03:54] >> Councilman Fletcher.
[3:03:56] >> Councilwoman Abula.
[3:03:58] >> Councilman Cannibal.
[3:03:59] >> Yes.
[3:03:59] >> Councilman Ra.
[3:04:00] >> Councilwoman Ksky.
[3:04:02] >> Yes.
[3:04:02] >> Vice Mayor Bailey.
[3:04:04] >> Yes.
[3:04:04] >> Mayor Lawson.
[3:04:06] >> Yes.
[3:04:07] >> I'm telling the vice mayor is trying to
[3:04:09] vote for Ksky.
[3:04:12] » Okay.
[3:04:17] 21
[3:04:19] >> 21 is the first reading of an ordinance
[3:04:20] of the city of Homestead, Florida,
[3:04:21] amending the city code of ordinances by
[3:04:23] amending chapter 20 parks and recreation
[3:04:25] to repeal and replace existing
[3:04:26] regulations related to fees levied for
[3:04:28] the use of park facilities, establishing
[3:04:30] new schedule of fees for the use of city
[3:04:32] facilities, providing for conflicts,
[3:04:33] providing for severability, and
[3:04:35] providing for an effective date.
[3:04:37] >> I move to reject.
[3:04:40] Sorry,
[3:04:42] >> just for the sake of time, I don't agree
[3:04:44] in codifying the park fees and I think
[3:04:46] that this is something best kept in the
[3:04:48] department per purview and I don't see a
[3:04:51] reason why we should re remove the
[3:04:54] ability for the park director to um
[3:04:58] bring to us for council consideration
[3:05:01] any changes throughout the year as
[3:05:02] needed. I'm not sure why we have to
[3:05:03] codify the park fees.
[3:05:08] Okay. Anyone else?
[3:05:11] All right. So, my thought on that would
[3:05:13] be is we need to have consistency.
[3:05:15] Everyone needs to understand what their
[3:05:17] fee is and there can be no claims of
[3:05:19] favoritism or corruption or whatever you
[3:05:22] want to call it that no matter who you
[3:05:24] are, who you know, you walk in the door
[3:05:26] and and you pay the fee and they can be
[3:05:29] amended by council from from time to
[3:05:32] time. We we've been finding for years
[3:05:34] that we do not have enough policy and
[3:05:36] procedure in place.
[3:05:40] Yes, Councilwoman Bailey, Vice Mayor
[3:05:42] Bailey, I'm sorry.
[3:05:43] >> I think um I think the main reason that
[3:05:46] this is needed now more than ever is um
[3:05:50] the amount of times that fees were waved
[3:05:52] in the past. Um I know that I was a a
[3:05:55] big part of that. Um but to be able to
[3:06:00] advertise um nonprofits. Um, and just
[3:06:05] the different the different parks and
[3:06:07] the differences. Um, some are higher,
[3:06:10] some are um in higher
[3:06:14] requ they're requested more. Um, FICO
[3:06:17] Williams is also just booked all the
[3:06:20] time now. Um, so just to be able to have
[3:06:22] that a little clearer out there for the
[3:06:24] public for them to be able to make their
[3:06:26] plans. We're booking things months and months in advance. So just
[3:06:31] for that for that uh sake I think that
[3:06:34] it is um it is needed.
[3:06:37] >> Thank you vice mayor.
[3:06:38] >> Anyone else?
[3:06:39] >> Is there an is there any changes to the briefing that I received because
[3:06:43] there was no section for the wave
[3:06:46] considering the nonprofit.
[3:06:48] That'll So there is a a separate
[3:06:50] nonprofit price, but the the fee waiver
[3:06:53] will still stand as one of us putting it
[3:06:55] under our item and all of council voting
[3:06:59] on splitting it or us using our
[3:07:01] discretionary funds, but it wouldn't
[3:07:03] just go into the black hole of of waving
[3:07:05] the fees where it just comes out of the
[3:07:07] park's budget.
[3:07:10] >> Is that correct?
[3:07:12] >> Would you like to move this item?
[3:07:17] Okay. You didn't have a second anyway, I
[3:07:19] don't think. Okay. So, do we have a
[3:07:22] motion to adopt this item? Moved by
[3:07:25] Councilman Roth, seconded by Vice Mayor
[3:07:28] Bailey.
[3:07:30] >> Roll call, please. Madam clerk.
[3:07:32] >> Councilwoman Appla.
[3:07:36] » Yes.
[3:07:37] >> Councilman Fletcher.
[3:07:39] >> Yes.
[3:07:39] >> Councilman Roth.
[3:07:40] >> Yes.
[3:07:41] >> Councilwoman Ksky.
[3:07:42] >> Yes.
[3:07:43] >> Councilman Cannibal.
[3:07:44] >> Yes. Vice Mayor Bailey. Yes.
[3:07:46] >> Mayor Losner.
[3:07:47] >> Yes.
[3:07:47] >> The motion carries.
[3:07:48] >> Thank you. So that would take us to tab
[3:07:52] 202
[3:07:53] >> two.
[3:07:54] >> Tab 22 is the first reading of an
[3:07:56] ordinance of the city of Homestead,
[3:07:57] Florida amending chapter 7, article 1,
[3:07:59] section 7.5 of the city code entitled
[3:08:02] Special Master System Creative
[3:08:04] Qualifications Terms removal to revise
[3:08:05] the qualifications and compensation
[3:08:07] structure for special masters providing
[3:08:09] for inclusion in the code providing for
[3:08:10] severability providing for conflicts and
[3:08:12] providing for an effective date.
[3:08:15] Thank you sir. Yes vice mayor.
[3:08:17] >> I'll move it with a quick comment. If
[3:08:19] any of you have never been to one of the
[3:08:20] special mast's meetings involving code.
[3:08:24] Okay. So these
[3:08:27] >> these volunteers work very hard and I
[3:08:29] know it's tough for the city. So I think
[3:08:32] this is a good a good move in the right
[3:08:34] direction. So
[3:08:35] >> and these these fees haven't been
[3:08:36] adjusted for years.
[3:08:38] >> Second. Okay. It's been moved by vice
[3:08:39] mayor seconded by cannibal.
[3:08:42] >> I just I do have Yes. Thank you. I
[3:08:44] agree. We need to have the extra
[3:08:46] resource. I just Is there a way to or
[3:08:48] maybe I can get clarification. Is there
[3:08:50] still an opportunity to leave the opport
[3:08:52] there still a way to leave the
[3:08:53] opportunity for a homestead resident to
[3:08:55] serve who wants to serve so that the
[3:08:57] position still is available? Because I
[3:09:00] believe that the reason why this is
[3:09:01] happening is because it's hard to fill.
[3:09:02] It's hard to get the volunteers to be
[3:09:04] able to do it. But if we
[3:09:07] exclude them 100%,
[3:09:09] then you're just taking away their
[3:09:10] opportunity to serve the community in
[3:09:12] that capacity.
[3:09:14] Unless we really don't want any.
[3:09:17] >> No. Okay. All right.
[3:09:18] >> Councilwoman, I think the section 7-5
[3:09:22] says, "Preference shall be given to
[3:09:24] residents of the city of Homestead
[3:09:30] » with the qualification
[3:09:31] >> with the within the category.
[3:09:33] >> Yeah.
[3:09:33] >> Okay. Thank you for the clarification.
[3:09:36] Mayor also an additional clarification
[3:09:38] on 7-5 C
[3:09:41] and A read together. The appointment for
[3:09:44] special masters shall be met by the city
[3:09:46] council with recommendation from the
[3:09:48] administration. So we're going to make a
[3:09:50] tweak between first and second reading.
[3:09:51] >> Okay.
[3:09:53] >> Good. Thank you. All right. So I believe
[3:09:54] we had a motion in a second on
[3:09:57] >> this item. So let's have a roll call
[3:09:59] vote.
[3:09:59] >> Councilwoman Ksky.
[3:10:01] >> Yes.
[3:10:01] >> Council member Ra.
[3:10:02] >> Yes.
[3:10:03] >> Councilwoman Abulu. Yes. Councilman
[3:10:05] Cannibal.
[3:10:05] >> Yes.
[3:10:06] >> Councilman Fletcher.
[3:10:07] >> Yes.
[3:10:07] >> Vice Mayor Bailey.
[3:10:08] >> Mayor Lawson.
[3:10:09] >> Yes.
[3:10:10] >> The motion carries.
[3:10:11] >> Now for the really hard one. Tab 23.
[3:10:15] Better extend the meeting to 10.
[3:10:20] Tab 23 is
[3:10:24] a resolution of the city council of the
[3:10:26] city of Homestead, Florida, approving
[3:10:27] first amendment to the addendum
[3:10:28] increasing the scope of work for the
[3:10:29] procurement and installation of epoxy
[3:10:31] flooring at Harrisfield Park by Gel
[3:10:34] Unlimited DBA Miracle Method of Miami
[3:10:36] North in the amount not to exceed
[3:10:38] $177,910
[3:10:41] plus a city manner contingency allowance
[3:10:43] of up to 10% for the total project cost
[3:10:45] utilizing the interlocal purchasing
[3:10:47] system here and after refer virtuous
[3:10:49] tips RCSP2410401
[3:10:54] agreement exempting the purchase from
[3:10:56] competitive bidding pursuant to section
[3:10:57] 2-411.185
[3:11:00] of the city code authorizing the city
[3:11:01] manager to execute all necessary
[3:11:03] documents providing for implementation
[3:11:04] providing for an effective date.
[3:11:07] >> Thank you. Um if you could bring the
[3:11:09] samples back up I think councilwoman
[3:11:10] Aava needs to take another peek at them.
[3:11:15] » Mr. Mayor, if I may.
[3:11:16] >> Which one is the top one you like?
[3:11:18] That's what I want to know.
[3:11:19] >> I'm not telling you.
[3:11:22] >> Just circulate them down.
[3:11:23] >> Mr. Mayor, if I may.
[3:11:24] >> Yes. Uh, again, I don't want to get into
[3:11:26] the color picking if you I'm going to
[3:11:29] take number four. It's It's pretty close
[3:11:31] to what current is currently there.
[3:11:34] >> Yes.
[3:11:35] >> What's the name? What's the name on
[3:11:36] number four?
[3:11:37] >> But here or there. Just remember this is
[3:11:38] a this is a temporary fix.
[3:11:42] 13.
[3:11:42] >> I know, but it's still temporary for if
[3:11:44] we reimagine Harrisfield in the next few
[3:11:47] years, the pavilion could be relocated
[3:11:50] possibly. So, this could be temporary in
[3:11:52] nature. I'm good. So, I I I will defer
[3:11:55] to my colleagues, but
[3:11:58] >> can we meet in the middle? Oops. Sorry.
[3:12:03] >> Can we meet in the middle and add a
[3:12:04] little brown so it ties into all the
[3:12:06] wood? That is what I was bringing up
[3:12:09] last time. There were no brown options.
[3:12:11] Get at it.
[3:12:12] >> Just a little brown will tie in with the
[3:12:14] wood.
[3:12:15] >> People try and walk up the walls.
[3:12:25] » Whatever Vice Mayor Bailey wants, I will agree with.
[3:12:28] >> No. No. Don't put that pressure on me.
[3:12:33] » Yeah.
[3:12:43] Firebrick. Is that what that is?
[3:12:45] >> Do you like this one?
[3:12:46] >> I think it meets in the middle. It goes
[3:12:48] with the wood.
[3:12:50] >> And gray is too trendy and doesn't go
[3:12:52] with the wood.
[3:12:57] » You're right. Comment from the vice
[3:12:59] mayor.
[3:13:00] >> I'm good with that one.
[3:13:02] >> There's there's public for the
[3:13:04] photographer. Right. Okay.
[3:13:07] We we may have a cons is brickyard.
[3:13:12] >> That's fine. But I have a question
[3:13:14] though.
[3:13:15] >> Not about the color.
[3:13:16] >> Be be it be it noted that Councilman
[3:13:18] Fletcher could care less.
[3:13:28] » I just I just have a question. I'm
[3:13:30] sorry. Not about the color, but it says
[3:13:32] here 177,910
[3:13:34] in the uh what what Matt read and it
[3:13:37] says here 137280. So
[3:13:40] >> I think I like this.
[3:13:41] >> Is there a problem with that? I don't
[3:13:44] know.
[3:13:47] >> I believe that might have been a typo.
[3:13:49] Um the actual proposal is 124,800
[3:13:53] and then the 10% uh contingency is
[3:13:56] another 12,000. So it's 137. That's with
[3:13:59] contingency and everything. It's only
[3:14:00] going to be 124
[3:14:02] >> in the 170 something. What is that?
[3:14:05] >> That looks like there must have been a
[3:14:06] typo when they a mistake when they type
[3:14:08] the
[3:14:09] >> it's going to be then 13.
[3:14:11] >> So 124,000.
[3:14:13] >> Okay.
[3:14:14] >> Plus 10% of the 137. That's just in
[3:14:17] case.
[3:14:18] >> Mayor, if I may.
[3:14:18] >> Yes. I think we got the color picked up,
[3:14:20] but in terms of the proposal and the
[3:14:22] pricing, um did we did we go out to
[3:14:25] multiple vendors or how did we get to
[3:14:27] this um vendor?
[3:14:29] >> So, at this at this time, this was done
[3:14:31] via piggybacking um agreement. This
[3:14:33] vendor did another job for us in the
[3:14:35] past and um had a very good warranty and
[3:14:38] the product has has, you know, stood the
[3:14:41] test of time there.
[3:14:43] >> Okay. because their their pricing is
[3:14:45] saying $135 an hour to conduct and it's
[3:14:48] going to take $650 for them to finish
[3:14:50] and that's what they put in the in the
[3:14:51] pocket. So,
[3:14:52] >> it's roughly 11 $11.35 per square foot
[3:14:55] is what it came down to be.
[3:14:58] >> Okay.
[3:14:59] >> Just a clarification on the price. The
[3:15:00] reason it was you jumped from the 120 to
[3:15:03] 1779 contingency 910. No, it's not the
[3:15:05] contingency. It's because this is an
[3:15:07] amendment to the existing agreement and
[3:15:08] the original the original contract price
[3:15:10] was $53,110
[3:15:13] with an amendment of $124
[3:15:15] um800. The 10% contingency does not go
[3:15:18] into the contract. That authorizes the
[3:15:20] manager to make further amendments up to
[3:15:22] that amount. That is how you got to the
[3:15:24] 177910.
[3:15:27] >> That's where
[3:15:29] >> because they did they had already done
[3:15:31] the Thank you for reminding me the
[3:15:32] kitchen and the bathrooms. That was the
[3:15:34] original. Yeah.
[3:15:40] » But but am I
[3:15:42] >> Pedro? Are you comfortable with that
[3:15:44] price? And and I don't think I I know
[3:15:47] you said they Yeah, they have a good
[3:15:48] warranty and they've done other work for
[3:15:50] us, but did we get any other proposals?
[3:15:52] >> No, we didn't.
[3:15:53] >> For this particular project, we did not.
[3:15:55] Um, I did get a proposal for a smaller
[3:15:57] project that was $9,000 from them and we
[3:16:02] got a second vendor that was like
[3:16:04] $10,800. So on on smaller projects,
[3:16:06] we've tested them against other vendors,
[3:16:10] >> but at this time for this one, we did
[3:16:11] not.
[3:16:12] >> And the warranty is li
[3:16:18] » I wish we could get lifetime.
[3:16:21] Are you able to negotiate a longer
[3:16:22] maintenance package or like do we have
[3:16:25] anyone in house that can fix epoxy
[3:16:26] flooring if there's a a peel after one
[3:16:30] year all the dancing and the boots and
[3:16:31] the that that pavilion gets used. So I
[3:16:34] mean we need to probably look at a
[3:16:35] maintenance plan.
[3:16:37] >> Oh, wasn't that the finish that was in
[3:16:39] the the original bathroom edition and
[3:16:42] that lasted several years?
[3:16:44] >> Yeah. On on average
[3:16:45] >> that's new now, but that was the prior
[3:16:48] finish.
[3:16:48] >> Yeah. On average, you can get about
[3:16:50] eight to 10 8 to 10 years on on this
[3:16:53] kind of surfacing. It's similar to the
[3:16:55] court surfacing, you know, we put on the
[3:16:56] basketball courts and tennis courts. You
[3:16:58] get anywhere from around seven to 10
[3:17:00] years.
[3:17:01] >> I trust you, Pedro. Thank you.
[3:17:03] >> I'm ready to move on.
[3:17:04] >> All right. Does anybody move this item?
[3:17:07] >> Moved by Cannibal. Second by Aval.
[3:17:10] >> I'm sorry.
[3:17:11] >> The color that uh the brown mix
[3:17:13] >> fire brick, I think. What was it?
[3:17:14] >> Fire brick.
[3:17:15] >> Brickyard.
[3:17:16] It sounds like a great
[3:17:17] restaurant coming soon.
[3:17:19] >> Yeah.
[3:17:20] >> Well, speaking of restaurants, that's
[3:17:21] what they have in the floors at Sak
[3:17:22] Pass.
[3:17:24] >> That's right.
[3:17:24] >> Our new downtown gray sock has that.
[3:17:27] >> They have the same floor.
[3:17:28] >> That's the first thing we noticed when
[3:17:30] we went in. That's the That's the uh
[3:17:32] finish we've been asked to do at
[3:17:34] Harrisfield.
[3:17:35] >> Okay. So, we have a motion and a second
[3:17:37] on tab 23. We'll have a roll call. Madam
[3:17:41] clerk,
[3:17:42] >> Councilman Campbell,
[3:17:44] >> yes.
[3:17:44] >> Councilman Fletcher,
[3:17:45] >> yes. Councilman Ross.
[3:17:47] >> Councilwoman Ksky,
[3:17:49] >> yes.
[3:17:49] >> Councilwoman Abula,
[3:17:50] >> yes.
[3:17:51] >> Vice Mayor Bailey,
[3:17:52] >> yes.
[3:17:52] >> Mayor Losner,
[3:17:53] >> yes.
[3:17:53] >> The motion car.
[3:17:55] >> Okay. So, Mr. Manager, for tabs 24 and
[3:17:58] 25, is there anything new or anything
[3:18:02] that needs to be said that was not said
[3:18:04] at our last presentation?
[3:18:06] >> So, Mr. Mayor and Council, there are
[3:18:08] just minor change on the actual
[3:18:11] transportation master plan. The previous
[3:18:14] version had a date of April 2025.
[3:18:19] So in order to reflect, we had a date of
[3:18:22] February 202
[3:18:25] because we approving this today. We
[3:18:27] changed the date to April of 2026.
[3:18:33] And I think also there's a cross-section
[3:18:35] that we had a range of 50 to 80 ft wide.
[3:18:39] We standardize it to make a uniform for
[3:18:40] everybody to be 80 ft. Those are the two
[3:18:43] minor changes.
[3:18:45] >> Mayor Fe.
[3:18:46] >> Yes.
[3:18:47] >> Thank you. Are the um two intersections
[3:18:49] in the Keysgate um district, the one off
[3:18:52] of Kingman and North Gate Road and
[3:18:56] Kingman and uh I think it's Palm.
[3:18:59] >> No, no, those cross sections reference
[3:19:01] arterial roads. Those are not local
[3:19:03] roads. Those ones were trying to widen
[3:19:05] to four lanes.
[3:19:06] >> I'm referring to the um traffic light
[3:19:09] signal improvements. So adding of the
[3:19:11] left turn signals and the the traffic uh reduction or speed
[3:19:16] reduction
[3:19:17] >> um
[3:19:18] >> is that is that your recent ask?
[3:19:20] >> Yes.
[3:19:21] >> I provided you with a response
[3:19:23] >> I didn't see the response yet but is it
[3:19:24] in the plan in our transportation
[3:19:26] >> master transportation master plan? Yeah.
[3:19:29] >> Okay. Thank you.
[3:19:29] >> A couple of those locations are in
[3:19:31] construction already.
[3:19:32] >> Thank you. And for district five my
[3:19:33] district the traffic light at Waterstone
[3:19:35] Boulevard and 137th Avenue. Can you
[3:19:37] speak to that and the efforts please?
[3:19:40] Uh I need to see
[3:19:41] >> in the master plan there's been some
[3:19:42] >> everything that we're doing now that
[3:19:44] we've submitted to the county are all
[3:19:46] extracted from the transportation master
[3:19:48] plan.
[3:19:50] >> Hey okay
[3:19:53] my recollection it was in there the
[3:19:55] waterstone way.
[3:19:57] >> Yeah.
[3:20:01] » Okay. So so we have a motion on
[3:20:04] >> we have a motion to second on tab 24.
[3:20:07] >> Moved by Avala. Second.
[3:20:09] >> Second by Cannibal for adoption of the
[3:20:11] master transportation master plan. Any
[3:20:13] further?
[3:20:14] >> Nope.
[3:20:15] >> Roll call. Have
[3:20:17] >> a
[3:20:18] >> Councilman Cannibal?
[3:20:19] >> Yes.
[3:20:19] >> Councilman Roth?
[3:20:20] >> Yes.
[3:20:21] >> Councilman Fletcher?
[3:20:22] >> Yes.
[3:20:22] >> Councilwoman Ksky?
[3:20:24] >> Yes.
[3:20:24] >> Vice Mayor Bailey?
[3:20:25] >> Yes.
[3:20:25] >> Mayor Osman?
[3:20:26] >> Yes.
[3:20:27] >> The motion carries.
[3:20:28] >> And tab 25. Resolution of the city
[3:20:30] council of the city of Homestead,
[3:20:31] Florida, adopting the city of Homestead
[3:20:33] Water and Sewer Master Plan, providing
[3:20:34] that the water and sewer master plan
[3:20:36] shall serve as policy guide for future
[3:20:37] water and wastewater system planning,
[3:20:39] prioritization, coordination, and
[3:20:41] implementation efforts, providing for
[3:20:42] implementation, providing for an
[3:20:44] effective date.
[3:20:46] >> Have a motion moved by Councilman
[3:20:48] Fletcher, second by Councilman Cannibal.
[3:20:50] There anything further? Seeing none,
[3:20:53] roll call vote. Madam clerk,
[3:20:54] >> Councilman Rob,
[3:20:55] >> yes. Councilwoman Abula. Councilman
[3:20:58] Fletcher.
[3:20:58] >> Yes.
[3:20:59] >> Councilman Calone.
[3:21:00] >> Yes.
[3:21:00] >> Councilwoman Ksky. Yes.
[3:21:02] >> Vice Mayor Bailey. Yes.
[3:21:03] >> Mayor Lawson. Yes.
[3:21:04] >> The motion carries.
[3:21:06] >> Moving on to tab 26.
[3:21:09] >> 26 is a resolution of the city council
[3:21:11] of the city of Homestead, Florida,
[3:21:12] authorizing a city manager to accept the
[3:21:14] grant award from the Florida Department
[3:21:16] of Management Services, executing grant
[3:21:18] agreement and any related documents,
[3:21:20] providing for implementation, providing
[3:21:21] for an effective date.
[3:21:24] It's been moved by councelor Ross,
[3:21:26] seconded by the vice mayor. There's
[3:21:28] nothing further. All in favor? I.
[3:21:30] >> Any opposed? All right, that takes us to
[3:21:34] 27.
[3:21:35] >> Seven.
[3:21:36] >> 27 is a resolution of the city council
[3:21:38] of the city of home state of Florida
[3:21:39] approving the settlements of all claims
[3:21:41] made by Elizabeth Collier, providing for
[3:21:43] implementation, providing for an
[3:21:44] effective date.
[3:21:46] >> Moved by the vice mayor.
[3:21:47] >> Second by Councilman Cannibal. Roll
[3:21:50] call. Madam clerk.
[3:21:52] Ross.
[3:21:53] >> Yes.
[3:21:53] >> Councilwoman Abula.
[3:21:55] >> Yes.
[3:21:55] >> Councilman Fletcher.
[3:21:56] >> Yes.
[3:21:57] >> Councilwoman Ksky.
[3:21:58] >> Yes.
[3:21:58] >> Councilman Cannibal.
[3:22:00] >> Yes.
[3:22:00] >> Vice Mayor Bailey.
[3:22:01] >> Yes.
[3:22:01] >> Mayor Losner.
[3:22:02] >> Yes.
[3:22:03] >> The motion carries.
[3:22:04] >> And that should take us to tab.
[3:22:07] >> 287.
[3:22:08] >> 28.
[3:22:08] We're on 28. That was 27 was the
[3:22:11] settlement. We just
[3:22:12] >> settle. All right. So 28. And I
[3:22:14] apologize to anyone who's been here for
[3:22:16] this. I was supposed to move this to the
[3:22:18] front of the agenda. And it's manager's
[3:22:21] fault. He forgot to remind me.
[3:22:25] Where's that bus? I'm going to throw
[3:22:26] you.
[3:22:28] Tab 28.
[3:22:30] The uh water and sewer upgrade.
[3:22:32] >> Tab 28 is a resolution of the mayor and
[3:22:35] city council of the city of Homestead,
[3:22:36] Florida, approving the award of
[3:22:37] invitation to bid number 202614 for the
[3:22:40] Chrome and Flaggler Avenue water and
[3:22:42] sewer upgrade and transit accessibility
[3:22:45] improvements project to Lonzo
[3:22:47] Construction, Inc. in the amount of
[3:22:49] 26,782,3378.
[3:22:54] Authorizing the city manager to execute
[3:22:55] an agreement and all related contract
[3:22:57] documents. Subject approval is to form
[3:23:00] legal sufficiency by the city attorney.
[3:23:02] Authorizing city manager to approve
[3:23:04] change orders or increases in the
[3:23:05] contract amount of up to 10% of the
[3:23:07] awarded amount as may be necessary to
[3:23:10] address unforeseen conditions or changes
[3:23:12] required to meet project specifications.
[3:23:15] providing for imple implementation,
[3:23:16] providing for an effective date.
[3:23:19] >> Thank you, Mr. Manager. Are there folks
[3:23:21] here to do a presentation on this item?
[3:23:23] >> Uh, there's no presentation. Uh, you've
[3:23:25] seen this project several times. This is
[3:23:27] one of the signature projects in the
[3:23:29] city's war and sewer master plan. This
[3:23:32] is the major critical infrastructure
[3:23:34] improvement that needs to be done. Uh,
[3:23:37] it will create redundancy citywide. It
[3:23:40] will enlarge and promote uh resiliency.
[3:23:43] We foresee up to 25 to 50 years of life
[3:23:46] and capacity improvements where we have
[3:23:48] existing 12in pipes. We are upsizing to
[3:23:51] 24 and 36. Uh that gives us a lot of
[3:23:54] flexibility for new development coming
[3:23:57] up. Uh subsequent to this we are coming
[3:24:00] back with pump station 11 uh the
[3:24:02] pipeline which is the forcemen that is
[3:24:04] going to be put out for bid I believe in
[3:24:06] the middle of next month for pump
[3:24:08] station 11 for the pipe the forcemen
[3:24:10] specific to this. We received five bids
[3:24:14] which is something that is very unusual
[3:24:16] and the prices range from 26 million to
[3:24:19] about $38 million and the lowest
[3:24:22] responsive and responsible bidder was
[3:24:24] Lanzo Construction. Uh madame director
[3:24:27] of procurement is here to take any
[3:24:29] technical questions on the procurement
[3:24:31] process. The lowest bidder was 26. The
[3:24:34] next bidder was 32. So there is a gap of
[3:24:37] $6 million.
[3:24:39] uh we are comfortable with the
[3:24:40] contractor that is being recommended.
[3:24:42] They have a ton of experience doing much much bigger projects than this both
[3:24:47] for immediate county and for Broward
[3:24:49] County and for War and Sewer. Uh we're
[3:24:52] actually surprised to see some of the
[3:24:54] biders because the county is currently
[3:24:56] soliciting for $2 billion worth of War
[3:24:59] and Sewer job that we thought were not
[3:25:01] going to get some credible contractors,
[3:25:03] but we did. All six of them were
[3:25:05] credible contractors and uh I think the
[3:25:08] representatives are here. Uh we giving
[3:25:11] them a tight timeline to finish this job
[3:25:14] by I believe 495 days, a little more
[3:25:18] than a year. Uh we're going to hold
[3:25:20] their feet to fire. I've told a couple
[3:25:23] of them that came to see me earlier that
[3:25:25] listen, the city expects nothing other
[3:25:27] than quality work. Uh, one of the
[3:25:30] initial promises is that they're going
[3:25:31] to establish a local office and they
[3:25:33] hope to hire local residents as part of
[3:25:36] the construction team.
[3:25:37] >> Very good.
[3:25:38] >> Okay.
[3:25:40] >> Thank you, Mr. Manager. All right. Do we
[3:25:41] have a motion to approve Tab 28? Yes,
[3:25:44] Council.
[3:25:44] >> Just real quick, this is one of the
[3:25:45] biggest contracts that I think I've ever
[3:25:48] had to approve. Can you remind us how
[3:25:49] we're paying for it?
[3:25:51] >> So, I have the finance director here.
[3:25:53] Um, I think there are about five funding
[3:25:56] sources for this project. It's not just
[3:25:59] one pro uh funding source. The CRA is
[3:26:03] funding a portion of the cost in the CRA
[3:26:05] area. You have the storm water utility
[3:26:07] fee for those that are drainage. You
[3:26:10] have the public works impact fees. If
[3:26:12] the water and sewer utility system
[3:26:14] revenue note, which was the the money
[3:26:17] that we borrowed, and I believe there
[3:26:19] was a contribution from the state
[3:26:23] last time, the governor gave us $4
[3:26:25] million last December.
[3:26:28] I think Mr. Finance covered it all. Give
[3:26:30] us a number.
[3:26:31] >> There are several funding sources and
[3:26:34] one of the things that's going to be the
[3:26:35] most complex is the schedule value when
[3:26:38] they invoice us is making sure that each
[3:26:41] section is tied to each funding because
[3:26:43] some of these funding are specific to
[3:26:46] certain things in the project. Like one
[3:26:47] of the uh the grants is for sewer only.
[3:26:50] So that means that that money can only
[3:26:53] pay for that portion. the roadway grants
[3:26:56] can only pay for the roadway elements of
[3:26:58] it. So, it's it's very tangly, but it's
[3:27:01] exciting. Like you said, it's one of the
[3:27:02] probably one of the biggest projects
[3:27:03] that we've contracts that we've
[3:27:06] approved.
[3:27:07] >> Got it. So,
[3:27:09] are we borrowing any money?
[3:27:11] >> Yes, we are. If you recall, in December,
[3:27:13] you approved a $12 million loan. Part of
[3:27:16] the funding was for the water and sewer
[3:27:19] improvements on Chrome and Flaggler and
[3:27:21] also like the manager mentioned for pump
[3:27:23] station 11 as well.
[3:27:25] >> And so the the loan was collateralized
[3:27:28] based on future revenue. Is that right?
[3:27:30] >> That's correct.
[3:27:32] >> The debt service was already built into
[3:27:34] the the budget. When you approved the uh
[3:27:36] the loan, we had already accounted for
[3:27:38] what the debt service was going to be.
[3:27:40] >> So in reality, it's not taxpayers aren't
[3:27:43] paying for this. This is grants. It's user fees user fees and grants.
[3:27:49] Correct.
[3:27:49] >> Right. Great. Okay. That's all. Thank
[3:27:51] you.
[3:27:51] >> So I I think I neglected to mention the
[3:27:54] FTA components. We have some MTA FTA
[3:27:57] funds for the transit related
[3:28:00] improvements.
[3:28:02] >> Council.
[3:28:03] >> And is this um from from breaking ground
[3:28:07] to potted plant beginning to end pro?
[3:28:09] This is this price encompasses
[3:28:11] everything. The timeline is what was
[3:28:15] bided on again like everything
[3:28:17] construction that might be unforeseen
[3:28:19] conditions
[3:28:20] >> right but my question is is this pricing
[3:28:22] is this pro this award is for final
[3:28:24] product
[3:28:25] >> oh yes that's what it is again subject
[3:28:27] to unforeseen conditions
[3:28:29] >> from sewer to sunflowers
[3:28:30] >> I was
[3:28:31] >> from sewer to sunflowers
[3:28:33] >> we know what they're going to get fed
[3:28:34] with
[3:28:36] >> I am not going to miss the opportunity
[3:28:37] to move this project
[3:28:39] >> okay
[3:28:40] >> I'm going to move it Okay.
[3:28:42] >> And sorry, I'll check in with a quick
[3:28:44] comment. We have a big job fair tomorrow
[3:28:47] in an effort to make sure that we get
[3:28:50] enough or we get as many of our
[3:28:53] residents to be able to apply. Can we
[3:28:55] help coordinate something similar for
[3:28:58] them when they're ready?
[3:29:00] So, um, we tomorrow, we intend to start
[3:29:04] off with,
[3:29:07] so we start off tomorrow with, uh,
[3:29:09] public outreach meetings with Pioneer
[3:29:11] Village and some businesses in downtown.
[3:29:14] Uh,
[3:29:17] so once the notice to proceed kicks off,
[3:29:19] the contractor will tell us what the
[3:29:21] schedule of values, the construction
[3:29:23] timeline, and what their needs are. Then
[3:29:26] that's the moment that we ask them,
[3:29:28] "What are your job needs for our local
[3:29:30] residents?"
[3:29:32] >> Can we make sure that that's one of the
[3:29:34] items of discussion during these first
[3:29:36] community conversations for people who
[3:29:38] are interested to be able to track,
[3:29:41] >> we'll do that.
[3:29:42] >> Okay.
[3:29:43] >> And that way the contractor wants to get
[3:29:45] an office in your area, your district.
[3:29:50] » Councilman Fleser.
[3:29:51] >> Yes. Thank you. And I want to thank
[3:29:52] Councilman Roth for bringing that up.
[3:29:54] This is the largest contract that I've
[3:29:57] approved since I've been on this
[3:29:58] council. And it's important to note that uh the taxpayers aren't funding
[3:30:02] this in the long run. Um
[3:30:06] for the contractor, I just want you to
[3:30:08] be prepared that we are going to be
[3:30:11] standard bearsers for excellent work and
[3:30:14] timely work.
[3:30:16] So it's uh very important to finish this
[3:30:19] efficiently and with minimal impacts. I
[3:30:21] know we're going to have a lot of
[3:30:22] community impacts. We just make sure
[3:30:24] we're going to educate everybody in
[3:30:25] time. That's all. Thank you.
[3:30:28] >> Yes, time frame is very important to
[3:30:30] some of us.
[3:30:32] All right, so we have a motion and a
[3:30:34] second. So, let's have a roll call vote.
[3:30:36] >> Councilwoman Abilio, yes.
[3:30:37] >> Councilman Roth,
[3:30:38] >> Councilman Cannibal,
[3:30:40] >> yes.
[3:30:40] >> Councilman Fletcher,
[3:30:41] >> yes.
[3:30:42] >> Councilwoman Ksky, yes.
[3:30:43] >> Vice Mayor Bailey, yes.
[3:30:45] >> Mayor Lawson,
[3:30:46] >> yes.
[3:30:46] >> The motion carried.
[3:30:48] >> All right. Before we go to tab 30,
[3:30:50] Councilman Fletcher, would you like to
[3:30:52] extend?
[3:30:54] >> We're motion to move the meeting to 10
[3:30:57] o'clock.
[3:31:00] >> Yeah.
[3:31:02] >> All right. All in favor?
[3:31:04] >> Any opposed?
[3:31:05] >> All right. Go ahead.
[3:31:06] >> Yeah. I just want to take the
[3:31:07] procurement department on this item
[3:31:09] also. This is a very complicated item to approve. So, Malia, thank you very
[3:31:14] much.
[3:31:16] >> Thank you. All
[3:31:18] right, that takes us
[3:31:19] >> and also public works director Kyro
[3:31:21] Kangas. He did a pretty good job on
[3:31:23] this.
[3:31:24] >> Yes.
[3:31:27] >> All right. So, that takes us to tab
[3:31:31] >> 30.
[3:31:34] Sav 30 is the first reading of an
[3:31:35] ordinance of the city of Homestead,
[3:31:37] Florida, amending chapter 2,
[3:31:38] administration, article 8, contracts and
[3:31:40] purchasing of the code of ordinances of
[3:31:42] the city of Homestead to create division
[3:31:44] 3 processing of proposals creating
[3:31:46] section 2-293 general provisions
[3:31:49] creating section 2-294.
[3:31:51] Qualifying public private partnership
[3:31:53] proposals creating section 2-295
[3:31:55] unsolicited land proposals for
[3:31:57] city-owned real property establishing a
[3:31:58] procedure for the receipt screening
[3:32:00] evaluation negotiation of qualified
[3:32:03] public private partnership proposals
[3:32:04] consistent with section 255065 Florida
[3:32:07] statutes establishing a separate
[3:32:09] procedure for the receipt screening
[3:32:10] evaluation negotiation of unsolicited
[3:32:13] proposals for the sale lease or ground
[3:32:14] lease redevelopment or other disposition
[3:32:16] of cityown real property interest
[3:32:18] therein codifying application fees for
[3:32:20] each categor ategory proposal subject
[3:32:23] to other applicable governing laws other
[3:32:26] applicable law governing the disposition
[3:32:28] of property providing for codification
[3:32:30] severability conflicts and an effective
[3:32:31] date.
[3:32:33] >> Thank you. All right. So I would imagine
[3:32:36] there are quite a few questions or
[3:32:38] comments on this. So I'll open up the
[3:32:40] floor to council on this item. Um I
[3:32:43] worked with our attorneys and and
[3:32:45] management to bring this forward as a
[3:32:47] reflection of we have nothing in place.
[3:32:50] no guidelines whatsoever really for
[3:32:54] dealing with analyzing processing either
[3:32:58] unsolicited proposals or
[3:33:02] what's generally called a P3
[3:33:05] uh proposal. So this kind of builds in
[3:33:08] some guard rails. Everybody's again
[3:33:10] going back to that policy and procedure
[3:33:13] so that everyone is very clear as to uh
[3:33:16] what the burdens and uh and benefits are
[3:33:20] of uh both the city and a proposer for
[3:33:23] bringing something uh forward. With
[3:33:26] that, I would be happy to hear any uh
[3:33:29] any comments or concerns on the on first
[3:33:32] reading, and there will be opportunity
[3:33:34] to uh to make changes between now and uh
[3:33:38] and second reading. Council Fletcher.
[3:33:40] >> Yes. Thank you. And I think this is uh
[3:33:43] the right time and place to move this
[3:33:45] forward. Uh I'm not really sure if the fees are quite enough, you know,
[3:33:50] based on uh previous inst if if you go
[3:33:55] back to the the offer on the old city
[3:33:57] hall site,
[3:33:59] you know, one time we we spent $110,000
[3:34:02] for consultant,
[3:34:04] you know, over a couple projects, but
[3:34:06] basically that's where it started plus
[3:34:08] staff time. So again, I don't know if
[3:34:10] these fees are actually
[3:34:13] realistic in in ensuring we're we're
[3:34:16] covering those costs. Um I'm open to my colleagues uh
[3:34:24] information, but it's just uh it's
[3:34:26] something that needs to be done and I
[3:34:28] just think the fee structure should be a
[3:34:30] little higher.
[3:34:31] Certainly historically we could go back
[3:34:33] to that the city hall process the
[3:34:37] original shotgun process with Mr.
[3:34:39] Sweezy's entity and some of the original
[3:34:42] even minority builders and the original
[3:34:45] uh triangle proposal.
[3:34:50] If if we could get those it could tell
[3:34:52] us whether we're in the ballpark of
[3:34:55] uh reasonable fees.
[3:34:59] So, if we could we could receive those
[3:35:01] between now and second reading and any
[3:35:04] others you could think of.
[3:35:05] >> Yeah. And have we have we looked at
[3:35:06] other municipalities to ensure maybe
[3:35:08] this is in line with what they do?
[3:35:10] >> We did. Um and there, you know, $25,000
[3:35:13] as as a flat fee just for the
[3:35:14] application. There's there's a process
[3:35:17] built in where if they you find your
[3:35:19] actual costs are exceeding that you can
[3:35:22] go back and seek additional funds and
[3:35:24] they in a P3 context they have to submit
[3:35:26] within 30 days and you don't have to do
[3:35:28] any work if they don't submit the
[3:35:31] additional funds. You can drop it and
[3:35:33] not take on your your dollars. If you'd
[3:35:35] like to look um at additional things,
[3:35:39] you know, you can have an application
[3:35:40] fee plus, you know, an additional escrow
[3:35:42] if that's something you're interested in
[3:35:44] seeing, which would be drawn down on and
[3:35:46] maybe a you akin to a cost recovery
[3:35:49] account to account for the actual costs.
[3:35:52] The fee is your your money on a P in a
[3:35:55] P3 context. If you proceed, it's a fee.
[3:35:57] It's yours.
[3:35:59] um unless you choose not to pursue it at
[3:36:02] all in which case and by statute it goes
[3:36:04] back to them whereas an escrow amount
[3:36:08] would just be drawn down on actual costs
[3:36:11] and you could determine that. So I I'm
[3:36:14] open there there's
[3:36:16] a array of options this is the simplest
[3:36:20] and if you know there's two separate fee
[3:36:22] structures that are broken out. One is
[3:36:24] for the P3 which is not what you have
[3:36:26] traditionally seen which deals with a
[3:36:29] qualifying public project. What we have
[3:36:32] traditionally seen here is uh land
[3:36:34] proposals for either long-term leases or
[3:36:37] acquisitions and that's where the city
[3:36:39] has incurred its costs over the years
[3:36:41] and in those types of deals and
[3:36:45] trying to contemplate what that looks
[3:36:47] like. We have a again there's a
[3:36:48] spectrum. You can have somebody who
[3:36:50] wants a single family lot or may we may
[3:36:52] want to do a an appraisal before we sell it, but that's not going
[3:36:58] to be an exorbitant amount of money
[3:37:00] versus somebody who wants the old city
[3:37:02] hall site or, you know, mitigation
[3:37:05] property, whatever that may be. And so
[3:37:07] we did for the land acquisition a
[3:37:09] graduated scale to account for the the
[3:37:12] anticipated costs. And again, in that
[3:37:15] section, there's also a reservation to
[3:37:17] go back to them and seek additional
[3:37:18] funds. But I'm happy to make any changes
[3:37:20] that you want and bring back any
[3:37:22] information you want for a second read.
[3:37:24] >> So I was going to say exactly that, but
[3:37:26] that's why I asked the question. Okay.
[3:37:28] Uh but here there again I don't I'm open
[3:37:30] to my colleague suggestions, but I I
[3:37:32] just I'm not sure about the fee
[3:37:34] structure.
[3:37:34] >> Well, and that's I think the basic of
[3:37:36] the provisions in here are built in to
[3:37:38] go back and ask for more.
[3:37:41] >> Certainly were covered.
[3:37:42] >> Yes. But and if they refuse to do so,
[3:37:45] then
[3:37:47] >> goodbye.
[3:37:50] Okay. And certainly there's there's time
[3:37:53] to massage this in each of your minds
[3:37:55] with with the attorney between now and then and and uh you know tee up some amendments, but at least uh get
[3:38:05] moving from where we had nothing in
[3:38:06] place before. Vice Mayor,
[3:38:08] >> did you Oh, you're good.
[3:38:10] >> Just real quick.
[3:38:11] >> Yeah. Um,
[3:38:13] what it a workshop?
[3:38:16] I think based on what I'm hearing, what
[3:38:19] Matt just said, I got lost.
[3:38:22] >> So,
[3:38:22] >> I'm sorry.
[3:38:23] >> I understand what Fletch what Councilman
[3:38:25] Fletcher is saying and then I understand
[3:38:26] what you're saying. There's
[3:38:27] contingencies built into it to protect
[3:38:29] us for additional fees.
[3:38:31] >> Yes.
[3:38:32] >> Um, but I still think
[3:38:35] we could work on this a little bit more.
[3:38:37] Well, we could we adopt it and not have
[3:38:39] a second reading until after we have a
[3:38:41] workshop.
[3:38:41] >> Or we can have a workshop between in
[3:38:43] between
[3:38:43] >> between first and second.
[3:38:45] >> Certainly.
[3:38:45] >> That's fine.
[3:38:46] >> Right.
[3:38:47] >> Yes, Vice Mayor.
[3:38:49] >> And then I think what would make me
[3:38:51] understand things a little clearer as
[3:38:53] well. Um what I was trying to think of
[3:38:55] is what are the last few deals or
[3:39:00] things the city was considering that
[3:39:02] this would have fallen in place with?
[3:39:04] not to say now but to talk about during
[3:39:06] the workshop is to give us some examples
[3:39:09] of of how things would have looked with
[3:39:11] some last
[3:39:12] >> and at the workshop we can we come up
[3:39:14] with clearly obvious and then there's
[3:39:16] going to be some that
[3:39:17] >> wow where did that come from
[3:39:19] >> I okay so I I would ask that we you know
[3:39:24] pass it at first reading subject to a
[3:39:26] workshop prior to second reading
[3:39:29] >> okay all right so moved with that
[3:39:31] condition by Councilman Fletcher second
[3:39:33] by Councilman Councilman Roth. Any
[3:39:35] further? Okay, let's have a roll call
[3:39:37] vote on that item.
[3:39:39] >> Councilwoman Ksky,
[3:39:41] >> Council Councilman Fletcher,
[3:39:43] >> yes.
[3:39:44] >> Councilman Roth,
[3:39:45] >> yes.
[3:39:45] >> Councilman Cannibal,
[3:39:46] >> yes.
[3:39:47] >> Councilwoman Abula.
[3:39:48] >> Vice Mayor Bailey,
[3:39:49] >> yes.
[3:39:50] >> Mayor Losner,
[3:39:51] >> yes.
[3:39:51] >> The motion.
[3:39:53] >> Okay.
[3:39:55] >> Uh, tab 31. 31
[3:39:57] >> is the second reading of an ordinance of
[3:39:59] the city of Homestead, Florida, amending
[3:40:01] the city code of ordinances by amending
[3:40:02] chapter 30 zoning, article 4,
[3:40:04] supplemental district regulations,
[3:40:06] division 2, off streetet parking to
[3:40:08] modify regulations and standards related
[3:40:10] to the temporary parking of boats and
[3:40:11] further establishing regulations
[3:40:13] concerning parking within private rights
[3:40:14] of way permitted within private
[3:40:16] residential developments, providing for
[3:40:18] severability, providing for inclusion in
[3:40:19] the code, providing for conflicts and
[3:40:21] providing for an effective date.
[3:40:23] >> Another workshop
[3:40:28] Thank you. Um, thank you, Matt. And, um,
[3:40:32] I I do believe that staff um, circulated
[3:40:35] another letter of support to accompany
[3:40:37] this agenda item from a leader, a CDD
[3:40:41] board member in Waterstone community.
[3:40:44] Um, you know, this ordinance does not
[3:40:47] expand parking or boat storage. It just
[3:40:51] clarifies who governs it and within a
[3:40:55] private community that authority should
[3:40:58] belong to the HOA that the residents
[3:41:00] already agreed to live and uh and to
[3:41:03] live under the rules. Uh the the fact that there
[3:41:12] are differences within association
[3:41:14] communities and nonassociation
[3:41:16] communities is not uh a foreign concept.
[3:41:19] Today we already live under different
[3:41:22] rules and regulations that other areas
[3:41:24] in the cities don't have to comply to.
[3:41:26] And even within our zoning and with our
[3:41:30] uh our code, there are different
[3:41:32] guidelines that um that affect uh
[3:41:36] different developments. For example, in
[3:41:38] the TMU or in the PUD POD developments,
[3:41:41] there's different architectural uh
[3:41:43] guidelines in the P pioneer district
[3:41:45] within our downtown. There's different
[3:41:47] uh distinguish uh this items that are
[3:41:50] distinguished. So, so it's not a foreign
[3:41:52] concept that depending on where you are
[3:41:54] in the city, different um different
[3:41:57] codes or different rules would apply.
[3:41:59] Um, additionally, I want you all to
[3:42:00] consider that associations are a tool to
[3:42:05] work alongside with for the city. Uh,
[3:42:07] use the associations as a mean to echo
[3:42:10] the message. Um, you know, recently I
[3:42:13] started getting a lot of phone calls
[3:42:14] about, oh my gosh, code enforcement's
[3:42:16] going doortodoor knocking on on doors to
[3:42:20] uh promote the messaging about
[3:42:21] recycling. We we need to promote better
[3:42:23] recycling efforts, but there's like a
[3:42:26] really strong boundary about soliciting
[3:42:28] inside gated communities. It's not
[3:42:30] received well. So, use the associations
[3:42:33] to broad broaden your message and and uh
[3:42:37] send out they could send out
[3:42:38] newsletters. they can help you promote
[3:42:40] um the the importance of recycling,
[3:42:43] things like that. The same thing goes
[3:42:44] with parking and boat storage. These
[3:42:47] rules and regulations that residents are
[3:42:49] already living to for various years, uh
[3:42:53] 20 20 30 years in our community, it's
[3:42:56] already been a proven concept that
[3:42:58] things are under control and there
[3:43:00] aren't any challenges. And um this
[3:43:03] ordinance simply just surgically and
[3:43:06] precisely clarifies who is governing
[3:43:08] those and regulating those two specific
[3:43:11] items. There's been a lot of talk
[3:43:13] tonight about code revisions and um in other meetings we talked about it
[3:43:18] would cost $250,000 to do a code
[3:43:21] rewrite. We've been talking about it for
[3:43:23] many years and I still promote that we
[3:43:25] should fix our code comprehensively. But
[3:43:28] until then, we should look at the areas
[3:43:31] within our community that need to have
[3:43:33] special attention. And I um respectfully
[3:43:36] ask for your your vote and support
[3:43:39] tonight and to trust that the
[3:43:40] associations are going to continue to do
[3:43:45] a great job with enforcing park and uh
[3:43:48] parking and boating storage within their
[3:43:50] communities responsibly, which would
[3:43:52] ultimately allow for code enforcement to
[3:43:56] relieve themselves from the requirement
[3:43:58] of having to focus on those items and to
[3:44:01] do other more important work in our
[3:44:04] communities.
[3:44:05] So, I'll rest with that. Thank you,
[3:44:08] >> council.
[3:44:11] » Yes, vice mayor.
[3:44:12] >> Thank you, Mayor.
[3:44:16] I think it could go either way. You
[3:44:18] know, it will
[3:44:20] Well, one question for staff. Are there
[3:44:22] any areas in the city where boats are
[3:44:25] able to be stored in front of the homes
[3:44:28] indefinitely?
[3:44:31] >> No.
[3:44:32] acre lots? No, no, no. So,
[3:44:41] is there also conversation about setting
[3:44:45] a standard across the board for all
[3:44:48] areas and the time frame allowed or
[3:44:51] you're saying to to let each HOA
[3:44:53] determine how long their residents are
[3:44:57] able to
[3:44:58] >> Right. So ex current day the the the
[3:45:01] rules and regulations regarding parking
[3:45:03] and boat enforcement within HOAs, it
[3:45:05] already exists. So what I'm saying is to
[3:45:08] allow that standard be whatever that
[3:45:10] standard is. So the the actual verbiage
[3:45:13] and the code that's adjusting is just
[3:45:14] clarifying that those two items would be
[3:45:17] governed by the HOA. It's not setting
[3:45:18] the time limit. It's not setting the
[3:45:20] storage um front or back. The reason is that some properties have larger lots
[3:45:26] where you can store a recreational
[3:45:28] vehicle in the yard, but 90% are not and
[3:45:32] the HOA rules typically don't allow it.
[3:45:34] So, there is no perpetual boat parking
[3:45:36] in front of a home that I'm aware of.
[3:45:38] Um, it's in the example that Councilman
[3:45:41] Fletcher gave in our last reading, um,
[3:45:43] is that in the Keysgate community, it
[3:45:45] allows for three days. Once those three
[3:45:47] days are over, you got to have your boat
[3:45:49] off your property. That's one one
[3:45:51] example. association that example which
[3:45:55] people have merily lived under for many
[3:45:57] for 30 years now in the eastgate
[3:45:59] community is a direct violation of the
[3:46:01] current code and so while I do agree
[3:46:03] that perhaps there for the benefit of
[3:46:06] the southwest and the northwest which I
[3:46:08] was speaking to some of the southwest
[3:46:09] residents earlier today and that's kind
[3:46:12] of the discussion is while we do move
[3:46:14] forward and make these precise changes
[3:46:17] in some districts or some areas let's
[3:46:20] not forget and take an opportunity to
[3:46:21] maybe look at where else we have to
[3:46:23] provide relief whether it's a whether it
[3:46:26] is bark boat and uh boat storage maybe
[3:46:29] instead of two hours you allow 12 hours
[3:46:31] so that you can clean your boat you know
[3:46:33] but that would be again another a change
[3:46:36] that we could always bring back on a on
[3:46:38] a larger area but for parking
[3:46:41] enforcement another example some
[3:46:43] communities the roads are larger so they
[3:46:46] allow you to park on the street
[3:46:49] in smaller roadway communities They
[3:46:52] don't want you to park on the street
[3:46:53] because they don't want you to obstruct
[3:46:56] uh emergency vehicles and garbage
[3:46:58] vehicles. So, they promote you to park
[3:47:01] in your in your driveway. And addition
[3:47:04] to all of that, these roads, these
[3:47:07] sidewalks, the the communities of these
[3:47:10] that falls under this ordinance are
[3:47:13] privately maintained. They're filling
[3:47:15] their own potholes. They're paving their
[3:47:17] own roadways. they're fixing their own
[3:47:20] sidewalks when the root systems are
[3:47:22] lifting up the the you know creating
[3:47:24] that um uneven sidewalk.
[3:47:27] So in the perspective of the association
[3:47:29] it does come as a surprise that this is
[3:47:31] even um contrary in the code. So again
[3:47:35] it's just clarifying and making a
[3:47:37] correction that probably should have
[3:47:38] already existed when the pud was
[3:47:40] created. So call it a housekeeping
[3:47:43] measure. It is um it's not a foreign
[3:47:46] concept that associations have different
[3:47:49] rules and regulations and this is
[3:47:50] something that the city doesn't have to
[3:47:52] burden themselves with identifying and
[3:47:54] curing.
[3:47:56] >> I think besides the comment made at the
[3:48:00] last meeting that sometimes the garbage
[3:48:01] trucks couldn't get through. I think in
[3:48:04] the end that should have been set up
[3:48:06] from the beginning if that's the way
[3:48:07] things have been for the last 30 years
[3:48:09] there and it's working um at least most
[3:48:12] of the time relatively well leave it as
[3:48:14] is.
[3:48:19] This this um this ordinance just
[3:48:21] clarifies that the
[3:48:24] responsibility of the city
[3:48:27] isn't to go in there and and find people
[3:48:31] if they're parking in their parking
[3:48:33] spaces or if they're boat is out for
[3:48:35] more than two hours. And when without
[3:48:38] this code being changed, all the
[3:48:41] associations are basically operating in
[3:48:43] conflict to the code. So with that, I'll
[3:48:46] make a motion to approve my code
[3:48:48] amendment. Thank you.
[3:48:50] >> Question, Mr. Mayor.
[3:48:53] >> Council Fletcher.
[3:48:54] >> Yes, thank you. So, right now this is
[3:48:56] very singular, you know, right to boats.
[3:48:59] It doesn't really address other
[3:49:02] vehicles, recreational vehicles, motor
[3:49:05] homes, uh, which can also be an issue.
[3:49:08] Uh, and and most homeowners associations
[3:49:11] have restrictions on those being in in
[3:49:14] there for a period of time as well. Why
[3:49:16] are we just identifying boats?
[3:49:20] How many of these have actually occurred
[3:49:21] where the cities actually went out and gave
[3:49:25] citations? And I understand you're
[3:49:28] wanting to give the HOAs the And look, I
[3:49:31] I've seen the letters. I've talked to my
[3:49:34] residents as well, but what happens on
[3:49:37] the fifth day or the sixth day? The HOA
[3:49:40] is doing they're doing their fines and
[3:49:42] whatever, but the boat's still there.
[3:49:44] the seventh day. You know, it there at
[3:49:46] some point the city's going to have to
[3:49:48] come in and and say something at some
[3:49:49] point. I would say,
[3:49:52] do other cities have anything similar to
[3:49:54] this or are we creating something new?
[3:49:58] >> None of the cities in South Florida in
[3:50:01] Dade County that I pulled or in the
[3:50:03] county have anything. I'm not I'm not
[3:50:04] against being a trends setter and moving
[3:50:06] forward, but
[3:50:08] >> we compared like cities and either they
[3:50:11] were silent on the topic, which would
[3:50:12] then refer you to the Miami Dade County
[3:50:15] code, or they had their own. The only
[3:50:18] city that stood out to be one of our
[3:50:21] neighbors that was more strict than ours
[3:50:24] um was um South Miami that required you
[3:50:28] to register your vote with the city to
[3:50:30] ensure that the vote belonged on that
[3:50:33] property. Other than that, they are all
[3:50:36] mirrored the same as ours.
[3:50:40] >> So, that's a concern just basically that we're going to be an outlier with
[3:50:43] other cities in in South Florida. Uh
[3:50:46] Again,
[3:50:48] I will I will listen to what my
[3:50:51] colleagues have to say. Uh, I appreciate
[3:50:52] your comments and and understand, but
[3:50:56] this may require a little more work
[3:51:00] uh to ensure that, you know, right now
[3:51:02] we're we're trying to unbburden city
[3:51:05] employees potentially, but at the same
[3:51:08] time
[3:51:10] they're driving down the road and they
[3:51:11] see something that's not safe, has been
[3:51:14] there for a while. You know, where where
[3:51:16] do we draw the line? Do we just let the
[3:51:19] HOA handle it? And then we're looking
[3:51:22] differently at areas that don't have
[3:51:23] HOAs.
[3:51:25] So
[3:51:26] there's give and take here, I think,
[3:51:28] that we have to look at. Uh
[3:51:31] I'll see what everyone else has to say.
[3:51:39] » Oh,
[3:51:41] I'll just let me just throw my two cents
[3:51:43] in here. Um the two-hour citywide
[3:51:48] um code is I think
[3:51:52] a little short
[3:51:55] and I don't know how many of our code
[3:51:56] officers are driving around on a Sunday
[3:51:58] afternoon looking for people who got
[3:52:00] their boats out in front of the yard
[3:52:01] more than two hours. So, I think some I
[3:52:04] don't know if somebody's mentioned it
[3:52:05] that maybe we look at this and and
[3:52:07] change the code entirely because
[3:52:11] my thought was although I support the
[3:52:14] HOA's taking care of their their
[3:52:16] residents and their properties
[3:52:19] that it's more of selective enforcement
[3:52:21] on the city side where someone who lives
[3:52:24] in the northwest section, the code
[3:52:25] enforcement's going to enforce a
[3:52:28] two-hour curfew on their boat and that
[3:52:30] same guy goes and visits the guy in
[3:52:33] Keysgate and he's got his boat out in
[3:52:35] his yard for two year or two days or
[3:52:36] three days. So,
[3:52:40] I think the HOAs do a great job in in
[3:52:42] maintaining and protecting the values of
[3:52:44] their homes and their residents. And I
[3:52:46] think
[3:52:48] it's it needs more work than what is is here because I just think the
[3:52:54] selective enforcement
[3:52:56] could create an issue for us in the
[3:52:57] future.
[3:53:00] I don't know how you allow
[3:53:02] a part of the city to ignore whatever
[3:53:05] the code is and the other part of the
[3:53:08] city has to be enforced with that code.
[3:53:09] So I just don't understand that that
[3:53:11] concept of it. So, um, but as I said, I
[3:53:16] think the HOAs
[3:53:18] have the ability to govern themselves a
[3:53:20] lot better than the city does when it
[3:53:22] comes to the enforcement of a 2-hour
[3:53:26] rule or 72-hour rule based on, you know,
[3:53:29] the way some of those communities look
[3:53:31] versus
[3:53:33] how some other communities in the city
[3:53:35] looks as well. So, maybe I think vice
[3:53:38] mayor mentioned a workshop to
[3:53:42] And I hate keep adding up workshops and
[3:53:44] workshops, but if we're going to make,
[3:53:47] you know, improvements to the city, I
[3:53:50] think it takes more than sitting here
[3:53:51] for an hour to debate a topic like this
[3:53:55] where um I just think that the selective
[3:53:58] enforcement part of it is a is a big
[3:54:00] problem. Um and once residents realize
[3:54:04] on the northwest side that people on the
[3:54:06] east side parked their boats for three
[3:54:08] days and not got a citation and and I'm
[3:54:11] getting a citation. I feel bad for the
[3:54:14] representatives in that that area, you
[3:54:16] know. So,
[3:54:18] that's just my two cents for for this
[3:54:20] topic.
[3:54:21] >> Thank you, Mary.
[3:54:22] >> Thank you, Councilman. So, in the runup
[3:54:26] to this, well, let me back up. At its
[3:54:29] core,
[3:54:32] this proposed ordinance
[3:54:37] legalizes activity that is contrary to
[3:54:40] city code. And while it is true when one
[3:54:45] says that HOA rules are different from
[3:54:48] city codes,
[3:54:50] it is more truthful to say that they are
[3:54:54] by and large and we all view them as
[3:54:57] more restrictive than city code. And I
[3:55:01] think that's what folks expect when they
[3:55:03] move into a gated community are those
[3:55:07] more restrictive rules. And however it
[3:55:10] happened, it's come to our attention now
[3:55:12] that some HOAs have
[3:55:16] rules that violate city code. So, we're
[3:55:23] and and to to piggyback on Councilman
[3:55:25] Roth, and I think I touched on this at
[3:55:26] first reading, this could be a real
[3:55:29] slippery slope that if I'm the guy in
[3:55:32] the Northwest that gets a ticket for
[3:55:34] having my boat out there in the driveway
[3:55:36] for the third hour, I'm going to say,
[3:55:38] "Hey, wait a minute.
[3:55:40] You allow these folks over on the other
[3:55:42] side of town to park them out there for
[3:55:46] three days." and and that that's just a
[3:55:50] slippery slope that's going to open up a
[3:55:52] lot of of a lot of issues. I think I
[3:55:55] don't know what the history is of why we
[3:55:57] only allow two hours and and maybe we
[3:56:00] need to to look at that. But what is
[3:56:04] being asked here is is not whether it's
[3:56:07] 2 hours, 12 hours, or 72 hours. This is
[3:56:12] asking us as a city through code
[3:56:14] enforcement to ignore those violations
[3:56:18] in in gated communities and I I don't
[3:56:22] know that we have the discretion to do
[3:56:24] that.
[3:56:26] But you know at its heart this seems to
[3:56:28] be a solution in search of a problem.
[3:56:31] The statistics that code enforcement
[3:56:33] provided to each and every one of us is
[3:56:36] that since January 1, 2024,
[3:56:40] only 10 boat citations have been written
[3:56:45] in I believe I don't know if it was
[3:56:46] citywide or gated communities.
[3:56:48] >> No, the requested information was for
[3:56:51] the some of the larger associations.
[3:56:54] >> I don't want to name them, but they're
[3:56:55] in the memo with three of the largest
[3:56:58] community associations. What violations
[3:57:01] So 10 tickets if I may add that the
[3:57:03] first reading there was a different
[3:57:05] report that was circulated which was
[3:57:06] more citywide and association specific.
[3:57:09] >> So are you referring to the second
[3:57:11] circulation or the first
[3:57:12] >> the second request?
[3:57:14] was incorrectly
[3:57:17] provided but the first reporting that
[3:57:19] was circulated at first hearing
[3:57:21] >> that one showed approximately 160
[3:57:24] violations.
[3:57:26] mix between boats and parking citywide,
[3:57:29] >> right? That was all for a longer period
[3:57:30] of time. The second reporting was
[3:57:32] narrowed to three three of the larger
[3:57:34] associations for a shorter period of
[3:57:36] time.
[3:57:37] >> The second report
[3:57:39] was not intended to request specifically
[3:57:42] for boat and parking. So that that
[3:57:45] information was not appropriate for this
[3:57:48] discussion.
[3:57:49] >> I don't I don't think that's accurate.
[3:57:50] It clearly says boat violations and
[3:57:53] parking on rideaway violations. that I
[3:57:55] recall and it's here in the background
[3:57:56] >> but it's not it's not for all the
[3:57:58] associations that would be affected by
[3:57:59] this ordinance. the first report that
[3:58:01] you had requested on first hearing that
[3:58:03] one was inclusive of the associations
[3:58:06] and it was uh uh for boat and parking
[3:58:09] enforcement and on that report which
[3:58:11] Josh had circulated on the first hearing
[3:58:14] had approximately 160 which you can
[3:58:16] share 160 violations compiled between
[3:58:20] the preppl and the and the current
[3:58:22] program for for violations and out of
[3:58:26] 160 30% of those
[3:58:29] um were association specific and out of
[3:58:33] those um um associations
[3:58:38] district uh five for example was the was
[3:58:42] like over 50%. So, you know, hence why
[3:58:44] I'm the one bringing the item. I'm the
[3:58:46] one hearing the complaints and the
[3:58:47] issues.
[3:58:48] >> Right.
[3:58:48] >> So,
[3:58:49] >> 30% of 160 whatever.
[3:58:52] >> It's not 10. That's for sure. It's not
[3:58:53] 10.
[3:58:54] >> Okay. But 30% of 160 is 48. Half of 48
[3:58:59] is 24.
[3:59:00] >> Then uh
[3:59:01] >> in your district,
[3:59:02] >> that's still not an epidemic
[3:59:06] of problems.
[3:59:08] You've got to stop thinking about your
[3:59:10] district would be my advice that we have
[3:59:13] to think citywide. What's good for the
[3:59:16] goose has got to be good for the gander.
[3:59:19] >> Oh, I respect that 100%, mayor. And for
[3:59:21] that reason, I contacted multiple
[3:59:23] residents that live outside of the city
[3:59:25] gates and to get their fair and full um
[3:59:27] advice on this item and please do not
[3:59:30] paint the picture that I don't care
[3:59:31] about anything outside my district.
[3:59:33] Don't put that much in my mouth. Well, I
[3:59:35] do care about other districts aside from
[3:59:37] my own. And I did make a very strong
[3:59:40] effort to reach out and get feedback.
[3:59:42] And what I was told was, Erica, code
[3:59:45] enforcement needs to be focused on trash
[3:59:48] and illegal dumping. And if if they're
[3:59:50] spending time knocking doortodoor and
[3:59:52] they're going in there and and u issuing
[3:59:54] violations for boats and parking when
[3:59:57] the associations have their rules, why
[4:00:00] are they spending their time doing that?
[4:00:02] I I I beg the same question. You want to
[4:00:04] say it's only 10.
[4:00:06] >> That's not the case.
[4:00:07] >> So, mayor, may I offer a solution?
[4:00:09] Pardon? May I offer a solution?
[4:00:12] >> Uh I think that
[4:00:15] we all need to do a little more deeper
[4:00:17] dive into this before we approve final.
[4:00:20] I would I would suggest we have another
[4:00:22] workshop and again we can put two or
[4:00:25] three of these together but and not only
[4:00:29] look at the singular portion of boats
[4:00:31] but we have to look at the RVs and other
[4:00:33] things as well.
[4:00:34] >> Well and and I think it's a good
[4:00:36] opportunity to look at city code in
[4:00:39] terms of length and one thing that
[4:00:41] jumped out at me is there are some areas
[4:00:44] that allow two boats in a yard. I think
[4:00:46] one's plenty. two invites monetizing
[4:00:49] your backyard. Go online and type in
[4:00:53] boat rental space in Homestead and you
[4:00:55] have hundreds of entries where people
[4:00:57] are advertising
[4:01:00] park your boat in my backyard for x00 a
[4:01:03] month.
[4:01:05] >> Mayor, if I may to Councilman um
[4:01:07] Fletcher's uh question about why boats
[4:01:09] not RVs. Boats are typically able to be
[4:01:12] parked at a marina and you can bring it
[4:01:14] and you can use it, clean it up, take it
[4:01:16] back to your marina. RVs are not
[4:01:18] typically something that I I have not
[4:01:20] heard one complaint about, oh, I got
[4:01:22] cited for my RV. If you either have
[4:01:25] space in your yard to park your RV or
[4:01:27] you're you're bringing it in, filling it
[4:01:29] up, and leaving. But for the most part,
[4:01:32] I have I have not heard one complaint
[4:01:33] about RVs. But if you wanted to expand
[4:01:35] it to include RVs as part of the HOA um
[4:01:40] governance, I'm fine with that, too. I
[4:01:42] don't think the HOAs would have an
[4:01:44] issue.
[4:01:44] >> And again, I don't think the HOAs have a
[4:01:46] problem with RVs. It's the areas that
[4:01:47] don't have HOAs where RVs are located
[4:01:49] and people are living in them
[4:01:51] >> that they probably shouldn't be.
[4:01:53] >> Doesn't affect them.
[4:01:53] >> But I think ultimately, you know, again,
[4:01:55] we've we've talked about this since I've
[4:01:57] been on council. Our code is very
[4:02:01] >> draconian.
[4:02:03] time to change that. But, you know, the
[4:02:05] I think we need to sit down and really
[4:02:07] have a a discussion with with all the
[4:02:09] data, not with just dates here and
[4:02:11] there. We need to compile all the data
[4:02:13] and and put it in front of all of us. I
[4:02:16] want to say this does nothing but
[4:02:19] promotes the continued highlyization of
[4:02:22] certain parts of our community. This is
[4:02:24] the theory of anything goes. And I you
[4:02:28] can have all the workshops you want.
[4:02:32] We have to have consistent rules across
[4:02:35] the board, whatever it it may be.
[4:02:38] >> And I recommended at first reading that
[4:02:40] perhaps we do that as a secondary step,
[4:02:42] right, for consideration, using this as
[4:02:44] an example for open up the discussion,
[4:02:46] but you know, falling under the mayor's
[4:02:48] leadership, there's no room for
[4:02:50] expanding that. He called it
[4:02:53] culturalization, changing cultural.
[4:02:55] >> You're the one that used cultural
[4:02:56] evolution.
[4:02:57] >> No, I didn't say evolution. What I said
[4:02:59] was if you want a more affluent
[4:03:00] community, affluent people vote.
[4:03:02] >> Affluent peoples don't trash up their
[4:03:04] neighborhood by parking their boats in
[4:03:06] the front yard.
[4:03:08] >> They put them in the back or leave them
[4:03:09] at the marina.
[4:03:10] >> I have a question though.
[4:03:11] >> Point of order.
[4:03:12] >> I I have a question. In the exhibit
[4:03:15] three that I guess is is in the booklet
[4:03:18] here.
[4:03:20] Uh yeah, the same tab we're talking
[4:03:22] about. It it lists all the communities
[4:03:24] that are looks like all the gated
[4:03:26] communities here.
[4:03:28] >> Who answered?
[4:03:29] So,
[4:03:31] >> right. So, we went through the
[4:03:33] management companies for the respective
[4:03:35] um associations that we had listings and
[4:03:37] contact information for and we sent
[4:03:40] multiple email requests for information
[4:03:42] and these are uh the responses that we
[4:03:45] received.
[4:03:46] >> Right. So, it looks like
[4:03:48] um most of Oasis
[4:03:54] Um, Waterstone did some communities,
[4:03:59] but in Waterstone, the ones that I see
[4:04:01] for Waterstone, they don't allow any
[4:04:04] boat boat parking or any temporary
[4:04:06] parking in those communities.
[4:04:08] And
[4:04:10] um,
[4:04:12] in the
[4:04:14] Menescino area, states Menescino,
[4:04:16] Sonora, they didn't get any response.
[4:04:17] So, we don't know what they allow. And
[4:04:21] in the fairways is the longest with Dun
[4:04:24] Woody
[4:04:25] and Augusta Greens at 72 hours and the
[4:04:29] others are 24 hours. Right?
[4:04:31] >> But if you look down this list,
[4:04:34] most of those HOAs don't allow any
[4:04:39] parking in the front temporarily. And
[4:04:42] it'd be interesting what the
[4:04:45] bylaws for each of these other
[4:04:46] communities actually state because if
[4:04:49] we're only talking about basically
[4:04:51] Keysgate that has these
[4:04:55] >> temporary parking allowances,
[4:04:57] >> it's only a portion, right, that the
[4:05:00] Keys the Keysgate responses had the
[4:05:03] 24hour for some and they went by
[4:05:09] community lot size. So, some communities
[4:05:12] that have the smaller lots, even though
[4:05:14] they all have driveways, individual
[4:05:16] driveways, the smaller lots were not
[4:05:18] afforded
[4:05:20] um the parking, some not at all. Some
[4:05:24] the 24-hour based on the lot size and
[4:05:27] then the more generous estate homes have
[4:05:29] the 72-hour. So, it's not everyone in
[4:05:32] Keysgate that falls in you. Keysgate
[4:05:35] runs their boat regulation parking by
[4:05:38] the size of the lot. Got it. So when you
[4:05:41] look at Augusta Greens, for example,
[4:05:44] they have like zero lots. So they got a
[4:05:47] 72-hour parking limit there.
[4:05:49] >> That was the rationale by
[4:05:50] >> Dun Woody would be probably
[4:05:54] um the larger and the fairways would be
[4:05:56] the larger lots that allow for 72 hours.
[4:06:01] So,
[4:06:04] I mean, at this point, we're only
[4:06:07] considering without the information
[4:06:08] coming in from these other associations.
[4:06:11] Keysgate.
[4:06:13] >> Well, well, no. Um,
[4:06:14] >> no, I can testify that
[4:06:15] >> those were the ones that had the mult
[4:06:17] that that had the multi-, you know, the
[4:06:19] tiered amount of hours that were listed,
[4:06:21] >> right? But everybody else is a no. Other
[4:06:24] >> everybody else is a no. They don't have
[4:06:25] any temporary parking.
[4:06:27] >> So, it's not like code couldn't go into
[4:06:29] them today.
[4:06:30] and two hours psych the boat, right?
[4:06:34] Because they're not they're not they're
[4:06:36] not enfor the HOA is going to be
[4:06:38] enforcing this as well because there is
[4:06:40] no temporary parking in there.
[4:06:43] >> So,
[4:06:43] >> right now there's no correct.
[4:06:45] >> Yeah, there is there is no temporary
[4:06:46] parking in there. And even if we pass
[4:06:48] this ordinance,
[4:06:50] it doesn't affect them, right? Because
[4:06:53] they don't allow it for parking,
[4:06:55] >> right? As of right now, they don't allow
[4:06:56] it. But if if
[4:06:57] >> but they can't change their rules
[4:06:59] >> unless it's by resident vote.
[4:07:01] >> They can change their rules.
[4:07:02] >> This ordinance helps those whose rules
[4:07:04] violate city code,
[4:07:07] >> which is two hours,
[4:07:10] >> which I think we need to look at the
[4:07:12] code itself to allow for a more lenient
[4:07:15] time.
[4:07:16] >> Um,
[4:07:18] and I think for Councilman Fletcher's
[4:07:20] concern when it comes to the RVs, we
[4:07:22] already have
[4:07:23] >> we have we're pretty tight. We just did
[4:07:25] something a couple years ago.
[4:07:26] >> Yeah, we the RV were pretty tight. I
[4:07:29] think at one point they were going to
[4:07:30] report back to us the areas and the RVs
[4:07:33] and the addresses of those that got
[4:07:34] cited for having housing in those. I
[4:07:37] don't think I've ever seen that report
[4:07:38] ever, but um and I'm sure there there
[4:07:41] have been some. Um so that that's really
[4:07:44] in there already. Fletcher, that was
[4:07:45] pretty strict, too, the the RV thing
[4:07:47] because I know there were a few in the
[4:07:48] villages that were people were living in
[4:07:50] them and those things are gone now. So,
[4:07:52] I'm sure the code got all over them and
[4:07:54] took care of that. But I I I think we
[4:07:56] need to go and have a workshop. Let's
[4:07:58] get this thing ironed out so it's it's
[4:08:00] fair for everybody. Um and it's not
[4:08:03] selective
[4:08:05] in nature.
[4:08:05] >> I would support a 72-hour rule. Say it's
[4:08:08] citywide. I I was trying to be
[4:08:10] respectful of, you know, other positions
[4:08:12] and, you know, be precise and and
[4:08:16] surgical on how we approach these, which
[4:08:17] is not unprecedented, but
[4:08:19] >> I can support 72 and one boat. Take away
[4:08:22] the ability for the second boat.
[4:08:24] >> That's in our code is to allow two boats
[4:08:25] in your backyard
[4:08:26] >> depending upon the size of the lot
[4:08:28] >> or greater than half an acre.
[4:08:29] >> Yeah.
[4:08:30] >> Westberry Redland Reef was the woman who
[4:08:33] had her boat and she was ticketed for
[4:08:35] having both instead of only one. Yes. So
[4:08:39] that would be that would be that would
[4:08:40] be an item that we can also address.
[4:08:42] >> I think that may have been location. I
[4:08:44] think you can have one of each, but
[4:08:45] they're supposed to be in the back.
[4:08:46] >> That's what she absolutely testified
[4:08:48] that that she had was both in the back.
[4:08:50] So I I I will defer this item until
[4:08:53] after we have a workshop and I
[4:08:54] appreciate everyone's commitment to to
[4:08:56] addressing this concern. If you don't
[4:08:58] live in a gated community, then you're
[4:09:00] not re you're not living the problem
[4:09:02] because you might have a larger lot
[4:09:04] where you can park your boat behind your
[4:09:05] fence.
[4:09:06] Come with me and let's count RVs and
[4:09:09] boats that shouldn't be in my
[4:09:10] neighborhood.
[4:09:12] >> Yeah, I'm not discounting that.
[4:09:14] >> But you don't have a second anyway. So,
[4:09:15] it's move to defer.
[4:09:17] >> I'm moving to defer.
[4:09:19] >> Mr. Mayor, also there's a resident who
[4:09:21] can't call in who wants to speak. Um
[4:09:23] >> Oh, did we do a public comment on this
[4:09:25] item?
[4:09:25] >> Well, I mean, we we asked for it. He's
[4:09:28] unable to talk. So, maybe we can get him
[4:09:30] to speak at the workshop.
[4:09:32] >> Yeah. I'd like I'd like to hear I'd if
[4:09:34] there's someone who'd like to make a
[4:09:35] public comment either positive or
[4:09:37] negative on the item, I want I would
[4:09:38] like to hear it today,
[4:09:40] >> but I'm still okay with deferring.
[4:09:42] >> So, they're unable to to call in. I
[4:09:44] guess they're on the YouTube channel,
[4:09:45] but is there a number I can have them
[4:09:47] call in?
[4:09:49] >> They could call you and you can put your
[4:09:50] phone up to the microphone.
[4:09:54] » That's one way. The other way is to go
[4:09:56] into the city website and then in this
[4:09:59] uh calendar of events then there they
[4:10:02] can click in the zoom link
[4:10:07] » if they have zoom
[4:10:11] » or haven't called.
[4:10:12] >> We can do a suggested by the mayor and I
[4:10:14] can give you a wireless mic and we can
[4:10:16] put them in
[4:10:17] >> I can put him right with this mic if he
[4:10:19] wants to call. Okay,
[4:10:21] >> I'll call him.
[4:10:25] radio.
[4:10:26] >> Yeah.
[4:10:28] >> 12.
[4:10:30] >> You want to talk or you want to wait for
[4:10:31] the workshop?
[4:10:35] » Oh, hang on. I'm putting on speaker.
[4:10:40] » Go ahead.
[4:10:42] >> Okay. Can everybody hear me? Mayor and
[4:10:45] council.
[4:10:46] >> Yes.
[4:10:47] >> Manager.
[4:10:49] >> Okay. Can you hear me? Okay.
[4:10:51] >> Yes.
[4:10:52] >> Okay. Okay. 104. So
[4:10:56] we did the letter.
[4:10:58] >> Hang on. Hang on. Hang on. Hang on.
[4:11:01] >> Larry Mino. Larry Mino.
[4:11:04] >> Larry Mino. 2555. Done. Woody Place.
[4:11:09] >> Go ahead.
[4:11:11] >> So Keys Gate did send a letter in
[4:11:15] support of this code amendment change.
[4:11:19] And in the letter, it outlines the
[4:11:23] reason why I hear an echo. Am I echoing
[4:11:28] to you?
[4:11:29] >> You're fine.
[4:11:30] >> Okay. So, in the letter, it outlines the
[4:11:34] governance that Keysgate
[4:11:38] has followed for the 25, 30, 35 years of
[4:11:44] its existence.
[4:11:46] Now, the fairways has a rule of 72 hours
[4:11:51] east lake. It could be 48.
[4:11:54] So, the point of this resolution is it
[4:11:57] hasn't been a problem in the past.
[4:12:00] Okay? But with the amendment, it would
[4:12:04] allow us to continue to govern the same
[4:12:08] way we have for the last 30 years.
[4:12:11] You guys have admitted tonight that
[4:12:14] there hasn't been a problem in our
[4:12:17] communities.
[4:12:19] You made reference to violations
[4:12:23] and
[4:12:25] they're non-existent.
[4:12:28] So if the system is working currently
[4:12:31] the way it's enforced
[4:12:33] for the HOA,
[4:12:36] why would you be opposed as a council
[4:12:40] to this? Now if you want to improve
[4:12:43] citywide
[4:12:46] to extend the 2hour to 24hour whatever
[4:12:50] it may be, then that that's a
[4:12:53] conversation for a different day.
[4:12:56] But we're not asking for special
[4:12:58] treatment. We're asking that you just
[4:13:03] continue to allow us to do what we've
[4:13:05] done for 30 years. And in all honesty,
[4:13:12] it's kept things smooth to where you can
[4:13:15] focus on other areas that might need
[4:13:18] more attention.
[4:13:20] So, I'm kind of trying to understand the
[4:13:23] tugof-war amongst council back and forth
[4:13:27] when the proven track record
[4:13:30] is there to show that we've governed at
[4:13:33] a high
[4:13:35] expectation
[4:13:36] and we follow all the rules. Not that
[4:13:39] code can't come in and do their thing.
[4:13:41] That's not what we're doing. And in the
[4:13:44] letter, it outlines a great relationship
[4:13:47] that we've had I've spoken to Crystal
[4:13:51] several times when she started calling
[4:13:54] in reference to HOAs. Uh whether no
[4:13:58] matter what it is, I support the city
[4:14:00] and everything they do, but at the end
[4:14:03] of the day, it it it's not we're playing
[4:14:07] favorites. It's that if you decide to
[4:14:10] come in and say, "Okay, we're going to
[4:14:13] enforce a 2hour rule." And then now
[4:14:17] you're having a fight with our
[4:14:19] management company that is enforcing 72
[4:14:23] or 48 hours. Now the homeowners not only
[4:14:26] mad at the HOA, they're mad at the city.
[4:14:30] So it it doesn't make any sense that we
[4:14:33] would be against this for the HOA when
[4:14:37] it's already has a proven track record.
[4:14:39] So if you could explain to me why you
[4:14:41] would be against it, I would love to
[4:14:43] hear it.
[4:14:48] Larry, can you hear me?
[4:14:51] >> Hello.
[4:14:54] » Can you hear him?
[4:14:56] >> I can't. Go ahead.
[4:14:59] >> That's not going to work.
[4:15:00] >> Yeah,
[4:15:01] >> he's got to hang up.
[4:15:06] » Yeah, this is going to work.
[4:15:10] » Yeah.
[4:15:19] So Larry, if you're watching, it seems
[4:15:21] we're going to defer this item and go to
[4:15:23] workshop.
[4:15:25] But for me, not living under the the
[4:15:28] benefit or the burden of an HOA. For me,
[4:15:32] it opens the door for more anything goes
[4:15:35] in the Northwest. This is not about
[4:15:38] whether the system has worked behind the
[4:15:41] gate. We're now codifying
[4:15:45] that certain neighborhoods have
[4:15:48] different and less
[4:15:51] restrictive rules than the city code.
[4:15:56] So then how can you tell an ungated
[4:15:59] community that you have a different
[4:16:02] parking rule than a gated community?
[4:16:06] This is this to me this is just not the
[4:16:09] way to go about it. I don't know what
[4:16:12] neighborhood what resident came to the
[4:16:15] sponsor of this item and asked this to go forward. Um
[4:16:23] you know it's just to me it opens the
[4:16:25] door. we go down that slippery slope of
[4:16:28] um if you're not going to enforce your
[4:16:30] code on one side of town,
[4:16:33] don't come try to enforce it against me
[4:16:37] was is my concern.
[4:16:40] If you hear that,
[4:16:43] >> but we're but we have a motion to defer.
[4:16:46] I think we need a second.
[4:16:47] >> Second.
[4:16:48] >> Okay, we have a motion to defer and a
[4:16:50] second. All in favor?
[4:16:53] >> I Any opposed? Okay. With the caveat,
[4:16:55] this needs to go to workshop as well and clarify the uh the information.
[4:17:02] Okay. So, does that take you to the
[4:17:05] non-smoking? Yes. No smoking in a park.
[4:17:07] Tap 32. Tab 32 is the second reading of
[4:17:10] an ordinance of the city council of the
[4:17:12] city of Homestead Florida amending the
[4:17:14] city of Homestead Code of Ordinances by
[4:17:15] creating article 7 smokefree parks of
[4:17:17] chapter 20 parks and recreation to
[4:17:19] prohibit smoking and vaping in city
[4:17:21] parks subject to applicable state law
[4:17:23] limitations providing for related
[4:17:25] definitions prohibition signage and
[4:17:27] enforcement providing for codification
[4:17:29] providing for conflicts providing for
[4:17:30] severability and providing for an
[4:17:31] effective date
[4:17:33] >> thank you it's been moved by vice mayor
[4:17:35] seconded by councilman I think this is
[4:17:38] one we can all agree upon agree upon and
[4:17:40] say why didn't we think of this before
[4:17:44] we didn't know this this loop this
[4:17:46] loophole existed
[4:17:48] so councilwoman anything to add on your
[4:17:52] >> No I think that the uh comments that
[4:17:54] were made at the beginning of our
[4:17:55] meeting were very concise and this is
[4:17:57] obviously for the benefit of our youth
[4:17:58] and uh improving our parks. Thank you.
[4:18:01] >> Thank you. Thank you for bringing it.
[4:18:03] Okay. So, let's have a roll call vote on
[4:18:05] tab 32.
[4:18:07] >> Councilman Ron,
[4:18:08] >> yes.
[4:18:08] >> Councilwoman Avula,
[4:18:10] >> yes.
[4:18:10] >> Councilwoman Ksky,
[4:18:11] >> yes.
[4:18:12] >> Councilman Fletcher,
[4:18:13] >> yes.
[4:18:14] >> Councilman Cannibal,
[4:18:16] >> yes.
[4:18:16] >> Vice Mayor Bailey,
[4:18:17] >> yes.
[4:18:17] >> Mayor Losman,
[4:18:18] >> yes.
[4:18:19] >> The motion cap.
[4:18:21] >> All right,
[4:18:23] let me get back to my agenda page to
[4:18:25] take you guys in the right order of who
[4:18:29] gets to uh
[4:18:31] >> What's that?
[4:18:33] Yes, Mr. Manager.
[4:18:37] Just a quick reminder that tomorrow we
[4:18:40] have the job fair at Fico Williams and
[4:18:43] also tomorrow we have the community
[4:18:45] meeting at the the CRA building for
[4:18:49] Pioneer Village with respect to the
[4:18:52] water and sewer project and to remind
[4:18:55] council that on April 30th we have a
[4:18:57] field trip to the wastewater treatment
[4:18:59] plants so that folks can get familiar
[4:19:02] with the processes and the fact that the
[4:19:04] city of Homestead has stayed with the
[4:19:06] same facility for years even though
[4:19:09] population had more than doubled. So
[4:19:11] it's time for us to realize that it's
[4:19:13] time to upgrade our systems and the
[4:19:15] facilities.
[4:19:17] Uh I think the rest I'm going to convey
[4:19:19] to council through memo to mayor and
[4:19:20] councel as well.
[4:19:23] >> Okay. Thank you Mr. Attorney.
[4:19:27] >> I don't have anything but I just wanted
[4:19:28] to call your attention to this that we
[4:19:30] had the other resolution that I don't
[4:19:32] believe we heard yet. It was an added
[4:19:33] agenda at the beginning. Okay. Yeah, if
[4:19:35] we get that far tonight, I'll do it
[4:19:36] under my business.
[4:19:37] >> Okay. I just didn't want to lose the
[4:19:39] thread. Yes.
[4:19:41] >> Councilwoman Ksky.
[4:19:46] » Couple things. I don't know um how many
[4:19:49] of you have been to the popup DMV at
[4:19:54] Dickinson, but what a pleasure that was.
[4:19:56] No appointment. I was in and out in 20
[4:19:58] minutes. So, um, my tip my hat to, um,
[4:20:03] the tax collector, Fernandez. Um, I also
[4:20:06] want to remind us remind everybody about
[4:20:08] the National Day of Prayer here in the
[4:20:11] chambers at 10:00 a.m.
[4:20:14] and it's May 7th. Thank you. One more
[4:20:18] thing, I was at the League of Cities
[4:20:20] last last week and we were all um
[4:20:24] invited to attend Memorial Day weekend
[4:20:26] at the it's the 2026 uh Hyundai Air and
[4:20:30] Sea Show um at South Beach. So that's
[4:20:34] they they're they've dubbed it the
[4:20:36] greatest show above the earth. That's
[4:20:38] May 23rd and 24th. and um
[4:20:44] quite an array there of demonstration of
[4:20:47] all the military. So, and they're
[4:20:50] expecting quite a turnout. And there is
[4:20:52] also a Patriot display village uh and a
[4:20:55] Saturday night firework and drone show.
[4:20:57] So, thank you.
[4:21:01] >> Hey, thank you, Councilman Roth.
[4:21:04] Council Cannibal, you good? You're good.
[4:21:07] Okay. Councilwoman Avala.
[4:21:10] >> Thank you, Mayor. Um, I wanted to um
[4:21:13] give uh props to our parks department
[4:21:15] for your Arbor Day coming up. Um, thanks
[4:21:17] for clarifying that we're not planting
[4:21:19] or no, we're not buying trees. We're
[4:21:20] going to be planting some trees. I look
[4:21:22] forward to that. And um, I want to
[4:21:25] recognize all of the community programs
[4:21:27] that are um, recognizing month of the
[4:21:30] military child and our autistic
[4:21:33] families. We see you and um, we support
[4:21:35] you. And I wanted to get an update about
[4:21:38] our faith-based advisory board advisory
[4:21:41] board. I had requested for that.
[4:21:43] >> I have I have a draft to share with you.
[4:21:45] >> Okay. Thank you.
[4:21:46] >> Which is that?
[4:21:46] >> Our faith-based advisory board. Yes. And
[4:21:49] then um there is the Farm Bureau
[4:21:51] barbecue coming up on Saturday. Please
[4:21:53] go out and promote uh um that is going
[4:21:56] to be at the Deari um distribution
[4:21:59] packing house.
[4:22:01] And um there is a program called uh
[4:22:04] NIFTY NFTT.
[4:22:07] It is a program that provides um summer
[4:22:11] entrepreneurship
[4:22:13] um
[4:22:14] curriculum and it has traditionally been
[4:22:16] held at Miami Dade College. They need a
[4:22:19] new location. They're not going to be
[4:22:20] able to host it this summer. It's a
[4:22:22] program of 40 years and um they meet
[4:22:27] June 15th through July 24th. And so I'm
[4:22:31] seeking help from staff to um try to
[4:22:33] identify a location. So if there's any
[4:22:35] recommendations on where they can meet
[4:22:37] during that time period, but they also
[4:22:38] need access to computers, which is one
[4:22:40] of the resources that the college was
[4:22:42] providing for them. So
[4:22:45] any ideas?
[4:22:48] >> All right. And um I think that's it.
[4:22:52] Thank you.
[4:22:55] >> Okay. Um Councilman Fletcher,
[4:22:57] >> thank you. And again, thank you for the
[4:22:59] reminder for the Farm Bureau barbecue
[4:23:00] this Saturday. Uh just quickly um
[4:23:07] the way I'm not a a social media guy,
[4:23:10] but I have been taking a look at at some
[4:23:13] of the things that we've been doing
[4:23:14] internally uh with with with Nolan uh
[4:23:18] and the police department and some of
[4:23:19] the things that we post at the city. But
[4:23:22] I think we can do much better. Um, if
[4:23:25] you look at the activation of what's
[4:23:28] going on with the F1 race in Miami and
[4:23:31] the the golf tournament that are both
[4:23:33] next weekend, but the way they're going
[4:23:37] about social media and promoting it is
[4:23:39] unbelievable and the followings that
[4:23:41] they're getting and I think we could
[4:23:42] learn a big lesson from that, you know,
[4:23:44] both internally and plus our partners as
[4:23:46] well. So, uh, the way they activate
[4:23:49] different parts of the community is, uh,
[4:23:50] quite interesting. Uh, so something to
[4:23:53] take a look at. I'll be more than happy
[4:23:54] to share my thoughts individually with
[4:23:56] whoever wants to talk about it, but it's it's pretty awesome what they're
[4:23:59] doing and it just it's just showcasing
[4:24:01] Miami in general. We want to showcase
[4:24:03] Homestead. With that, that's it. Thank
[4:24:05] you.
[4:24:05] >> Thank you, sir. Vice Mayor.
[4:24:07] >> Hey, a couple quick things, please. Um,
[4:24:09] at the MLK breakfast, there was a group
[4:24:12] from Everglades Prep that danced called
[4:24:14] Golden and Exquisite. Um, the CRB had
[4:24:18] sponsored a small amount for them to go
[4:24:21] um to do
[4:24:23] the state. They won state right after
[4:24:28] the MLK breakfast and this last weekend
[4:24:30] they just won nationals.
[4:24:33] So, one of our local dance teams, CRB is
[4:24:36] very proud that one of the first groups
[4:24:38] that they um helped sponsor. So,
[4:24:40] Everglades Prep, congratulations to
[4:24:42] them. Golden and Exquisite dance team.
[4:24:45] And speaking of amazing little humans,
[4:24:47] today is Earth Day. I want to give a big
[4:24:50] shout out to pack 69 and troop 78 that
[4:24:55] have been out at some of our local parks
[4:24:57] tonight cleaning up in lie of their
[4:25:00] weekly meeting. I know they were at Lner
[4:25:03] Park just recently. So, thank you
[4:25:06] especially to the leaders. Speaking of
[4:25:08] volunteers that are hard to find, Pack
[4:25:10] 60, PAC 69, Troop 78 has some of the
[4:25:14] most amazing leaders. Thank you guys for
[4:25:17] all your help, your hard work, and for
[4:25:19] helping the earth have better humans to
[4:25:22] inhabit it um through all your guidance
[4:25:25] and and everything that you do for our
[4:25:28] youth. And lastly, congratulations to
[4:25:30] Candela who is Troop 78's newest Eagle
[4:25:34] Scout.
[4:25:35] >> Very good.
[4:25:36] >> So,
[4:25:37] thank you ma'am. That is all.
[4:25:39] >> Okay. Thank you.
[4:25:41] >> One more one more thing. I think you all
[4:25:44] have before you resolution 2026 0453
[4:25:48] that was distributed.
[4:25:50] It loose. It wasn't in the book. This is
[4:25:52] regarding
[4:25:54] um potential solution. Our request to
[4:25:57] the mayor to uh to go back to the way it
[4:26:02] was prior to BRT until they figure it
[4:26:05] out. I'm going to take this take this to
[4:26:08] the TPO tomorrow for action. I
[4:26:12] appreciate your support on that.
[4:26:14] >> I mean,
[4:26:16] >> yeah, they Yeah, we've just got to to
[4:26:19] keep pushing. They respond to bad press.
[4:26:22] So, do we have a motion?
[4:26:24] >> It's been moved and seconded.
[4:26:26] >> Uh, roll call on this resolution.
[4:26:29] >> Councilwoman Avula,
[4:26:30] >> yes. Councilman Roth,
[4:26:33] >> Councilman Fletcher,
[4:26:34] >> yes.
[4:26:34] >> Councilwoman Ksky,
[4:26:35] >> yes.
[4:26:36] >> Councilman Cannibal,
[4:26:37] >> yes.
[4:26:37] >> Vice Mayor Bailey,
[4:26:38] >> yes.
[4:26:39] >> Mayor Lawson,
[4:26:40] >> yes. The motion carries.
[4:26:41] >> Couple other quick things. Just an
[4:26:43] observation that maybe we should do some
[4:26:45] of these workshops immediately following
[4:26:47] the day of prayer here.
[4:26:53] » Yeah. Um,
[4:26:56] thank to all my colle Thank you to all
[4:26:58] my colleagues who uh helped contribute
[4:27:01] to fund the trip of the robotics club
[4:27:04] from South Date High School who will be
[4:27:06] traveling this weekend to a very
[4:27:08] prestigious competition. I think
[4:27:10] Jasmine, our assistant, told us that she
[4:27:12] has a link that you can go on and watch
[4:27:15] them compete and see see what their
[4:27:17] robots and and so forth are
[4:27:20] >> are doing.
[4:27:22] and I've invited them to come do a
[4:27:25] presentation at our May meeting. So,
[4:27:28] we're going to we'll bring the robot,
[4:27:29] recognize these kids, and uh you know,
[4:27:32] before school gets out and come back and
[4:27:36] >> maybe maybe
[4:27:39] um
[4:27:40] that's it. I had another item. I will uh
[4:27:43] defer that until next month. We can get
[4:27:46] a more formal presentation together. So,
[4:27:48] with that, do I have a motion to
[4:27:50] adjurnn?
[4:27:51] >> Moved and second. All in favor?
[4:27:53] >> Opposed. Thank you all. Good night.