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I got to see Alabama.
We still have

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» I know it. [laughter]
I know it. Let's go. All right,

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» let's go, y'all.
>> All right. Precounsel meeting of city of

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Homewood for March 9th, 2026.
>> Councilor Simmons

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» here.
>> Councelor Sims

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» here.
>> Councelor Lane

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» here.
>> Councilor Armstead

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» here. Mayor Rams
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» Everybody's here.
>> Thanks everybody. Okay.

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Great to see everybody.
>> Two weeks. Miss everybody. Hey Solomon.

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All right. Um,
so we have no additions to our

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pre-consil agenda and we have no old
business agenda items. So we will begin

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with our new business items to begin
with 0103

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presentation and update from Sanford
University's Jeff Polich brought to us

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from Mr. Smith. All right, Jeff, you're
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» Uh, good evening everyone. Thank you for
taking a few minutes. Uh, I do not have

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the other end. Oh, I'm sorry.
>> Yes, sir.

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All right. Uh, good evening everyone.
Thank you for letting me have a few

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minutes tonight just to say thank you.
Uh, a bit of a goodbye. I'll see some of

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you over the next couple of weeks, but
uh, I am transitioning out of my role

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with Sanford University. Uh, I'm moving
back to my home state of Connecticut.

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Left about 30 years ago. Uh, I'm moving
back for for family and and for my

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heart. Uh but tonight is really uh I'm
very grateful to be able to introduce

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Trip Gray uh who will be taking my place
at Sanford and we work so much with with

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everyone in this room. Uh all the
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Jennifer, we've known each other a long
time. Uh all folks in city council and

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Kale and Wyatt and um just really really
grateful for all this work over the last

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eight years. Uh very thankful that Trip
said yes. So thank you Trip for saying

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yes. Uh Trip has worked with us for
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for the last 20 plus years. Has worked
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projects on campus, most of our vendors
and partners as well. Uh he will be our

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community liaison along with Dr. Coen
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on my staff. So we will stay very
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things the city of Homewood. Uh
representation won't change at all. Uh

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we will be consistent in attending
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best partner we can with the city of
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here, having Trip here tonight, um shows
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get the next couple of weeks together.
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dump everything out of my brain into him
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over these next couple of weeks, really
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» Today's day one, right?
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the clock for let's see, you got their
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in. He's still vertical.
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yeah, I just wanted to introduce Trip.
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hello few minutes again. I know you guys
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» you followed Jeff for several years and
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the university and got big shoes to
fill, but I look forward to working with

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each and every one of you. So

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» mic presentation ever.
>> All right. Okay. Well,

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» thank you. Thank you, Jennifer. I
appreciate I'll see you all before.

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» Please do not get out of hand.
>> Thank you so much. Okay.

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» All right. Bittersweet for sure. All
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Presentation. I'm going to miss you. All
right. Tell Mary I said hey. Okay. I

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will. All right. Thank you.
>> Um presentation from Sims Garden

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director Amy Weiss brought to us from
Mr. Smith. Amy, how you doing?

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» Is that really what it looks like? Okay.
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» Okay. Um, well, this is normally a
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had 10, and then I was told I have five,
so I'm going to like go through this

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real quick. Um, I am the executive
director of Miss Sims Garden Botanical

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Park in Homewood, which many of you may
not realize is a city-owned park. Um,

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but it is managed in the same way that
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and Aldridge Gardens is managed. It's
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nonprofit. So the 501c3 is the Misss
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Birmingham Southern, but we set up the
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unfortunately, when Mrs. Sims alma mater
closed. But very glad that that's being

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taken over by the Coast Guard now. Um,
if you'll go to the next slide. I'm

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sorry for the people in the room that
are seeing this, but oh, that looks

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better. Okay, so Miss Sims and her
mother purchased the property in 1964.

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This is the house that's still standing.
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essentially that is still there. It's
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the house was built in 1927 thereabouts.
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if you'll go to the next slide.
She over time purchased the additional

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four lots. So, it's a total of five
1920s lot lines. Can you guys see that

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over there? Okay. Um, and it is in the
Edgewood neighborhood. So, this used to

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all be cattle ranching. And those of you
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very first Edgewood city council meeting
was about keeping your cattle on your

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property. So, [laughter] we have the
original cattle fencing in the garden

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and right across the street, the
original farmhouse still stands. So,

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this is a very old part of Homewood. Um,
the soil is excellent. It's never been

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touched. So, we can grow a lot of really
great things in the garden. If you'll go

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to the next slide. Um, so Miss Sims was
quite the lady. She was Homewood Citizen

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of the Year in 2002, but by that time
she had already amassed a huge

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following. She um was one of the most
popular articles in the Grumpy Gardener

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Southern Living article. I don't know if
you guys ever read that. Inspired him

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and Felder Rushing to write a book
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was just a a big thing for her because
she never married. Her bow died in the

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war, so she never had children. She said
she never met anybody that she liked

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enough to marry after he passed away. So
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community became her family. Um so she
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going to leave her property to be
managed as a botanical park. And if

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you'll go to the next slide,
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December 2009 for the property to convey
to the city going through all of these

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processes that we go through now with
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and all of that. Um, so then in 2012,
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Southern. In 2018, I was hired. I'm the
sixth um, caretaker. And then I

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established the Missims Garden
Foundation in um, 2021 and became the

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executive director, but of course, we
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Um, so in 2018, I really started
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garden more of a community resource. It
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people had forgotten about it. The city
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know." Um, [laughter]
so I really um got together with some

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big brains in the landscaping and garden
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at Aldridge Gardens. So Rip Weather, Rip
Weaver, Henry Hughes, Jane Reed Ross,

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several others in that world. We got
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garden planning design meeting. [snorts]
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this into a demonstration garden for
residential landscape design. And what

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that means is best practices in storm
water management, best practices in tree

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management, best practices in what you
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suburban environment. So really thinking
about how can we make this a teaching

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garden, which is what Miss Sims really
wanted, and teach the community how to,

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you know, have a garden, how to have a
landscape in their home environment that

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is both good for human health and the
environmental health. Um, so we started

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fundraising for that plan in 2020. And
if you'll click on this little button

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here, Brian, it'll open up the landscape
design. And I was really pleased when

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Kale came on board because his first day
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came to the garden on his first day and
said,"I would really love," Sorry, Kale,

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I'm gonna quote you. I always quote you
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quote. Can you get that to pull up
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said, "I would love to use this to
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home builders, contractors, landscapers
how to do storm water." It was right

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around that time we were redoing our
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well
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every part of we're going to break
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landscape services and every part of
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So this is permeable brick paving. We
have to have ADA compliance because it's

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a city-owned property. Anytime that you
make improvements has to be handicapped

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accessible. So, but we're using
permeable brick for that. We have dry

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creek beds, rain gardens. There's
inground detention here. This is a wet

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pond, which is in the shape of a creek
bed, so it'll look like a flowing

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natural creek, but it'll be pretty and
functional. Um, it will go into an above

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ground retention pond. So, we'll have a
lot more water features in the garden,

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which everybody enjoys, good for the
wildlife. Um, we're expanding the event

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space. We currently rent this out. Uh,
and so we're going to be able to expand

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that. just had 50 women playing maong in
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for the garden. Um, and so we need to be
able to do more of those events. Um, but

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we need to be handicapped accessible.
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Okay. So, just um, this plan is broken
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And Kale has a copy of the engineered
designs for this and this and the bid

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and everything if any of you guys want
to see that. Um phase one is the storm

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water BMPPS accessibility irrigation and
all along the way we're documenting what

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we're doing because we're not just
looking at trying to be the example for

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storm water and biodiversity but also
how you comply with city ordinances. So,

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how do you comply with the tree
protection during construction, you

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know, part of the tree ordinance? And
being that example and documenting that

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along the way so that the city has
videos and images and a place to show

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people this is what we mean when we say
that you have to retain the first one in

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flush, for example. Um, so really a
teaching point for the city and for the

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nonprofit in the community. Um, phase
two, we're looking at outdoor kitchen,

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solar powered greenhouse, completing the
planting part of the garden design, and

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starting to develop programs and
interpretive signage for the garden.

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Phase three is a historical home
restoration so that we can expand our

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program capacity. Right now, I live in
the house. That is my only compensation.

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Every caretaker before me has lived in
the house. That's just that's just how

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it worked because there was no money to
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thankfully. So, that's how we make it
work. But I am very much full-time in

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the garden doing social media, doing
fundraising, doing all the budgeting,

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doing all the grant writing, doing
everything. Um, and I do have a lot of

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volunteers. I do have the board that
helps, but it is definitely a lot of

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work. But when I move out of the house,
we've been building up the

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sustainability side, the financial
sustainability side, so that the board

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can afford to pay a caretaker and that
we can turn the house into an part of

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the event space as well. since we're
limited by weather. Um, go to the next

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slide and then I think I'm done. Yeah.
So, just going through really quickly,

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we offer individual and family
sponsorships. We're going to start a

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campaign to sell bricks for the garden.
Um, legacy bricks. You can go to the

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next slide.
Uh, we just had the maong in the garden.

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We're going to be doing our um homewood
centennial plant sale this year

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celebrating the centennial along with
the rest of the city. And that'll be

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featuring all heirloom plants and native
plants. If you'll go to the next slide.

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Uh we're gonna have our seventh annual
pumpkin patch in the garden where we go

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through 5,000 pumpkins and about six or
700 moms every year and it's visited by

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thousands of people. And then we're also
benefiting from a centennial gayla. So

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October 15th we'll kick off the weekend
of centennial celebration events. So I

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hope that you all can attend that. It's
going to be really fun, but it'll be

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benefiting the garden as well. So that's
great for us. You'll go to the next

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We have our volunteer days here and you

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can go to the next slide. And that's the
end. If anybody has questions, you can

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definitely come see me at the garden. I
would love to give you guys a tour. Um,

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I know y'all got to roll on, but thank
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» Thank you, Amy.
>> Thank you, Amy. Thank you so much.

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That was great. All right, next item.
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Request to declare miscellaneous library
items surplus. Brought to us from Peter

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Freight.

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There's a couple of different pages.
It's a lot of uh either really big items

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like our old boardroom uh table is
getting surplus because we've now

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renovating that area with a new table.
Uh and then lots of little small things

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that are just no longer applicable for
what we do. Um

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so
all right, any questions for Judith?

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Um, without objection, we are going to
have the first reading and vote on

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unanimous consent tonight. So, unless
anyone objects to that, so we will

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hopefully handle business tonight in
council next door. So, all right.

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» Okay. Well, we'll leave you up here.
Yep. Yes, you are. Okay. 040326 request

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for consideration for an ABC240 special
event nonprofit taxexempt license for

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the Homewood Library Foundation block
party in the library parking lot at 1721

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Oxmore Road on Saturday, April 25th from
4 to 6:30. Yes. So, this is the Homewood

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Library Foundation's biggest event of
the year. We do have a temporary uh

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liquor license from the ABC board.
They'll issue it the week of, but we've

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already submitted our application. It
has been approved. Um, and so this we

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usually I come to the public safety
committee, which is now, y'all. Um, just

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to get approval to have this in the
library parking lot, which is covered by

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our insurance and everything. Um, and
it's a lot of fun. I plan to send y'all

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invitations, but save the date because
it's about 1500 people that show up for

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two and a half hours of just loving your
library.

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» That's nice. Awesome. Um, we are waiting
on this one, correct? Or this is we'll

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wait and handle this at our March 23rd
meeting on that. So, okay, perfect.

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Thank you, Judah. Thank you.
>> All right. Next item. 050326.

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Request for budget amendment for train
intelligence services agreement signed

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by resolution 2536 for services provided
March the 1st, 2025 through September

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30th, 2025. Mr. Smith.
>> Yeah. Brian, you have Yep. So, um JJ and

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I JJ probably knows more about this, but
I'm going to try to cover it.

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We met with Train and with Lee Garrett.
So, train provides us um last year they

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provided us with intelligent system
services which means that they can

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control the environment within city hall
from offsite and it saves us a ton of

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money each year. We intended to budget
for it and have them provide the service

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the entire year this year and I didn't
know that it wasn't happening but it's

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not happening. Uh, so they came back to
us and said, "Hey, we'd love to continue

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these services with you guys and saving
money." And so that's that's what this

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is, is to move um 75
$7,540

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from carryover fund balance uh into
building repairs and maintenance

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for the for them to continue service
through the end of this fiscal year. And

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then next budget cycle, we'll budget
them for the entire year.

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It helps Lee Garrett, who is our our
building um kind of manager

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to know where how the dials are set.
There's a lot of uh there's a lot of

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touch points within city hall that you
know dampers and all this mechanical

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stuff that I don't kind of out of my
league, but um

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» it saves the city money.
>> This keeps this helps them from being

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off I guess on site for That's right.
All of their

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» Y
>> and they can manage controls from where

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they are.
>> How does that work on the third floor?

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We not Does that have anything to do
with the third floor?

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» Do you know JJ?
>> How does it work on the third floor?

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» Yeah, they do the whole building.
>> They do the whole building.

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» Yeah. So, it allows them to have a set.
So, you can just move it up or down two

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degrees. You can't before you could
adjust

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» because weekends change. I mean, the
weekends like maybe

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» Yes. Well, because of Rosewood Hall,
they monitor that as well

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» because the church to use that on
Sundays and then they have other events

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during the week at night and on the
weekend. So they monitor that

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» so that they have control of there's no
wide swings like five degrees here five

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degrees on the first floor five degrees
below you know change

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» it's a good service to have

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All right. Well, without objection, we
will carry this over to our meeting on

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March 23rd.
Um, thank you so much for that

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information. Um, all right. Next item is
060326.

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Request for approval to keep a new
retaining wall in the city right away at

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521 Edgel Drive. Mr. Pew.
>> Yes. Um,

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Gordon's here. This particular uh
retaining wall was built. It was

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discovered at final inspection. Um, you
can see the property line marker that

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the surveyor left there. The new
retaining wall extended somewhat into

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the rightway. Uh, it was caught sort of
after the fact. It's on a dead end. It's

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not hurting anything, but it's in the
rightway. So, I uh

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I brought it here so y'all can look at
it.

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Any questions?
>> And it's in the rideway. So, what do we

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» So, typically it it could stay if with
an approved indemnification agreement,

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just an agreement stating that that the
homeowner understands that if say the

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city ever wants to put a sidewalk there,
it has to go away. Or it it makes sure

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that the owner understands that even
though it's in the right way, it's

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theirs to maintain.

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Just to be clear, too, that is that is
the property line to the back.

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» No sir, that's in the front. So, we
>> stake.

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» Yeah, I'm confused, too.
>> That's has a road. We're talking about

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the road. Are we talking about to the
stake to the left?

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» No. So, yes, it was um I want to make
sure I'm answering the right question.

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So, if you're driving up Edgol, here's
the dead end over here.

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» I was standing about right here in the
road taking a picture.

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» I got you.

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» Is that the road right there where the
leaves are?

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» Yes.
>> So, we

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» right here.
>> Yes.

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» This is sort of the valley gutter.
Okay. There's there's no issue with u

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there's
somebody gets hurt by somebody hits that

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spot because it's all the way to the
road. That's kind of unusual, is it not?

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» There was I will say before they built
this, there was a little stacked stone

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wall there. So there there's always been
a a wall there, but they took it down

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and rebuilt it out of this.
>> That is a dead end

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» sort of. Yeah. The problem the problem
with this area is and this was never in

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the budget to even do. I didn't want to
spend the money doing it. But the the

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driveway I couldn't even get in and out
of the driveway with my truck. It's real

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narrow and you would have to literally
back up the I was backing up edge null

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to be able to turn to get out. This just
gives you a better rate a better radius

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to turn in and to turn out. So I mean
that was

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almost out of necessity. the the rolloff
people, the dumpster people busted up

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what was there before. So,
>> does the show

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» That's great, Brian. Thank you. Does the
retaining wall currently go flush to the

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gutter there or does it stop?
>> It it comes it comes down to where the

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driveway is. Yeah, it just continues up.
>> But the the rolloff people busted all

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that stuff up and I end up having to do
something. I didn't really want to do

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anything to tell you the truth. It just
cost me money and headache obviously.

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» And you got the fence there and then
it's ox more right on the other side.

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» That's right.
>> Yeah. That's just a dead end.

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» See, you I you would literally have to
back up the street to get out of that

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driveway. I mean, it's just a mess.

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What's that? What's your name, sir?
>> What's that?

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» What's your name, sir?
>> Uh, Gordon Morton. G O R D O N. M O R D

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O N.
>> Any other questions for Mr. Morton?

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» All right, Mr. Morton, we will take this
up at our March 23rd meeting for a vote.

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Thank you so much for coming to present
that to us. We appreciate it.

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» I'll send you that.
>> Okay.

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Okay. Um 070326
requests for consideration to permit use

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of the city hall plaza for spring and
fall 2026 tournaments by Yay. Cornhole

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be hands back.
>> I think we got a couple of phrases over

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here. How yall doing? Y
>> good to see you all again.

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» Good to see you guys.
>> I'm Sam. I'm with Cornhole. So uh we

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were here to request obviously
permission to use the plaza again. We've

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been setting up on the uh social taco
side which is on the other side just

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because we asked them where their
approach is where they like to drive in

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the most business. So they had told us
that with the tacos kind of more spot

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for them. So be on Monday nights from
about we usually get here about 5:30.

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We're out here about 7:15 7:30 me and
him handle all the trash. There's any

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trash picked up. We pick up all the
trash. It's from Monday April 6 to

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Monday May 11th six weeks back to back
to back on Monday nights. And uh that's

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pretty much it. Can I just clarify? Did
you say you're going to move where

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you're doing it? This is where you've
always done it. Are you moving it over

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there, too?
>> Yes. So, we usually It's up to So, they

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choose it. They usually have to put on
the taco side just for the business. So,

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be on if you're looking at the plaza on
the right side versus the left. Does

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that make sense? [clears throat]
>> And so, do you want And I've got on the

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agenda item, it also mentions fall 2026.
Are y'all ready to talk about fall yet?

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» We're not We haven't We haven't got to
fall date yet, but it would be the week.

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It would be after the week after Labor
Day would be the start date. I don't

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know what Labor Day is.
>> Do you want to get us some dates? Um

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» yes, Sam.
>> Sam.

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» Uh we could hold off on the falls. Like
I said, we don't even talked about the

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fall yet. So we could hold we just get
approval spring. Yes, ma'am. P I E.

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» Okay.
>> T R A N.

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» T R A N. T O N I.
>> Okay.

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It sounds like where to go.
>> Yeah.

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» If if I mean we can set up on the social
side if that's easy.

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» I was just asking him if if he thought
we needed I needed to provide a new

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exhibit. Show us the whole thing. But

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» any questions for Cornhall?
Uh just my only question at this point

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is I mean you're only talking about
usage of Mondays at this point and you

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have no no plans at this point beyond
May 11th.

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» Is only May 11th right now. Okay. We're
looking at some other things for the

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summer. So I just want to confirm we
don't do anything.

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» All right. Perfect. Thank you.
>> Okay. Great. Okay. So we'll take this up

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on our March 23rd meeting if that's
okay. Is that okay? Timeline for you

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guys to get going for February uh for
April 6. April 6th. Sounds good. Thank

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you guys. Good to see you all.
>> Thanks you guys.

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» All right. Next item. 080326.
>> Request to set a public hearing for

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declaring property at 2011 Dale Avenue.
A public nuisance due to a dead tree

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brought to us from Mr. Cook. Is he here
today? Mr. Cook.

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» Mr. Pew. Are you speaking for Mr. Cook?

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» What? Are you speak to the Dale Avenue
item, too? I'm sorry.

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» I'm sorry.
>> You're fine. The Dale Avenue

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» 080326 Dale Avenue
>> 2011 Dale Avenue.

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» Yes. What about that?
>> Can you speak to that? Sure.

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» Mr. Cook is not here.
>> Oh, absolutely.

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» Yes.
>> Public nuisance due to a dead tree.

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» Yes, that's right. Um,
>> any pictures?

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» No, I haven't received anything.
>> Oh, I didn't realize Scott had submitted

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that, but um I'm not even sure he meant
to do that.

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» Do you want us Yeah.
>> Okay. Just leave us here. Okay.

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» So, this is just a request to set a
public hearing to declare it a nuisance.

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Right. So,
>> that's right. We've gotten we we could

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move forward with it because we have
gotten several complaints about there

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being a large dead tree there and Scott
has gone out there and confirmed. Yes.

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It and it needs to be removed.
>> Is this a 30-day notice for the public

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hearing?
>> Well, we're going to set it on the 23rd

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anyway. Is that okay?
>> I think that'll give

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» Okay. All right. So, we'll set public
hearing on the 23rd and it's probably

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gonna be a four-week uh four-week
notice. Okay.

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» Does that work?
>> That sounds like a plan.

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» Okay. So, that gives us six weeks.
>> This tree is not in the uh

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» right away, right?
>> No sir.

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» Okay.
>> Okay. All right. Okay.

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» All right. Let's see. 090326
request for consideration for Jack and

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Jill of America to use council chambers.
Chambers brought to us from councelor

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CZ.
Oh, you want to kick it off and then go?

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» Go ahead.
>> All right. So, Jack and Gio is an uh

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it's a membership organization for women
and their children, female, their

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children. And and what it does, it it's
a service organization. They they really

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put emphasis on serving the community um
in various capacities whether it be you

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know you getting involved in local
politics or even you know uh

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understanding
what you know local government is um

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just so you're you know and you're
you're a breast of it. So they

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approached me, part of their activity,
they do a bunch of different activities

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they they've done, you know, to give
kids to to broaden their pallet. They

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they did a tasting for them of various
foods. Um because a lot of these kids

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don't get that opportunity.
Um um I'm trying to think of another

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event that they did. I can't remember.
Um but long story short, it's a great

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organization. Uh we're part of it. I was
asked to speak at this

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um time as well. My experience during
the campaign and you know fast forward

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responsibilities now uh which I agreed
to do. There's another council member

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from Helina that's going to do the same
thing. He's a part of the organization

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as well. And it's really we're going to
create a mock uh council, you know, a

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meeting for them. Uh we'll do an agenda.
Um, we'll put some silly stuff on there

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that they can vote on, but then we
thought about putting maybe one serious

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item, you know, the silly stuff to keep
them engaged because, you know, as you

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know, pre-teens, their attention span is
about as short as a

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short
>> as adults, right?

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» Yeah. [laughter]
Yeah.

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» But then but then put something serious
to make them think um and really to get

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them engaged and to to to really show
them, you know, what you know work what

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this work is about. So great. I think
it's a great opportunity for us to be um

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engaging in the community and allow them
to come in and to see what we do and how

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we do it. Um and you know, you know,
that mock uh um council meeting I think

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will be interesting to see how these
kids [clears throat] react.

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That's it. Any questions on that?
>> You can We had some kids that came by

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with their competition and they fourth
graders were mad that the fifth graders

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got seconds of crispositos and so the
fourth graders were running out of

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crispos so they had us that could be
something you could add to your crisp.

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» The crispos that is universal.
>> Yes, very much [laughter] so.

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» My house.
>> Okay. Well, we are going to take that up

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tonight. So we will move that out
tonight

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» uh without objection there. Awesome.
Okay. Any other questions for councelor

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S on that?
>> If anybody want to come

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» join in that is uh
>> the 29th Sunday.

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» Yeah.
>> Sunday evening. Correct.

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» That's right.
>> Okay.

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» And it's going to last about an hour and
a half.

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You know, I told him, "If you want me to
speak, you better give me a time frame,

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and that means 10 minutes, and I'll I'll
honor that. But if you don't tell me, I

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[laughter] could go longer. It's
possible."

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» All right. Um, okay. Bo, do you need us
to uh any discussion on 110326

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consideration for an ABC 140 special
events retail license?

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» I mean, it's it's basically they've
they've gotten It's not it's not

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anything that they have to have uh
you know uh anything from police and

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fire approval from police and fire. It's
just they have their they got approval

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from ABC to do this.
>> So we'll have that on the council agenda

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when we go out.
>> Yes. On council agenda.

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» Okay. At this time, I would entertain a
motion for the council to enter into

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executive session pursuant to Alabama
Code 36257

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to discuss preliminary negotiations
involving matters of trade or commerce

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in which Homewood is in in competition
with other governmental bodies in

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Alabama.

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» Make a motion to go into executive
session.

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» Second.
>> All right. I have got a motion from

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Councelor Sims with a second from
councelor Armstead. Um Mr. Seers, can we

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have a roll call vote, please? Yes,
ma'am.

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» Councelor Simmons.
>> Yes.

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» Councelor Sims.
>> Yes.

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» Councelor Lane.
>> Yes.

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» Councelor Armstead.
>> Yes.

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» Mayor Anders.
>> Yes. Okay. That passes 5 to zero. So now

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I'm going to ask our city attorneys for
a declaration as to whether the proposed

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executive session falls within the
stated exception of the open meetings

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act.
>> It does. Uh the proposed executive

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session involves discussions that would
have a detrimental effect on Homewood's

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competitive position if disclosed
outside of an executive session and

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falls within the exception.
>> Thank you so much. All right. Well, this

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Council meetings adjourn until 6 and we
will reconvene in the council chambers

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at our regular scheduled time. So we
will see everybody next door minus Mr.

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Smith uh Mr. Gaston and city attorneys
and council.

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» Yes.

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00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:10,200
» Thank you guys.
>> Where are we going?

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You know,