[0:07] I got to see Alabama. We still have [0:26] » I know it. [laughter] I know it. Let's go. All right, [0:29] » let's go, y'all. >> All right. Precounsel meeting of city of [0:33] Homewood for March 9th, 2026. >> Councilor Simmons [0:38] » here. >> Councelor Sims [0:39] » here. >> Councelor Lane [0:41] » here. >> Councilor Armstead [0:42] » here. Mayor Rams >> here. [0:46] » Everybody's here. >> Thanks everybody. Okay. [0:50] Great to see everybody. >> Two weeks. Miss everybody. Hey Solomon. [0:54] All right. Um, so we have no additions to our [0:58] pre-consil agenda and we have no old business agenda items. So we will begin [1:03] with our new business items to begin with 0103 [1:07] presentation and update from Sanford University's Jeff Polich brought to us [1:11] from Mr. Smith. All right, Jeff, you're up. [1:15] » Uh, good evening everyone. Thank you for taking a few minutes. Uh, I do not have [1:19] the other end. Oh, I'm sorry. >> Yes, sir. [1:25] All right. Uh, good evening everyone. Thank you for letting me have a few [1:28] minutes tonight just to say thank you. Uh, a bit of a goodbye. I'll see some of [1:33] you over the next couple of weeks, but uh, I am transitioning out of my role [1:36] with Sanford University. Uh, I'm moving back to my home state of Connecticut. [1:41] Left about 30 years ago. Uh, I'm moving back for for family and and for my [1:45] heart. Uh but tonight is really uh I'm very grateful to be able to introduce [1:49] Trip Gray uh who will be taking my place at Sanford and we work so much with with [1:55] everyone in this room. Uh all the departments represented from the city, [1:59] Jennifer, we've known each other a long time. Uh all folks in city council and [2:03] Kale and Wyatt and um just really really grateful for all this work over the last [2:09] eight years. Uh very thankful that Trip said yes. So thank you Trip for saying [2:13] yes. Uh Trip has worked with us for years. He's been with Cork Construction [2:17] for the last 20 plus years. Has worked with me in particular on a lot of our [2:21] projects on campus, most of our vendors and partners as well. Uh he will be our [2:26] community liaison along with Dr. Coen Coin, uh Lauren Leech, uh Dietri Kaboya [2:31] on my staff. So we will stay very involved and integrated within all [2:35] things the city of Homewood. Uh representation won't change at all. Uh [2:39] we will be consistent in attending meetings. Uh we really want to be the [2:43] best partner we can with the city of Homewood and I think having Dr. Coin [2:47] here, having Trip here tonight, um shows that for us. Uh Trip and I are going to [2:52] get the next couple of weeks together. So I'm going to try and hopefully not [2:55] dump everything out of my brain into him in the first day or two. Uh but at least [2:59] over these next couple of weeks, really sort of work through everything. [3:02] » Today's day one, right? >> Today is day one. Yes. Trip has been on [3:05] the clock for let's see, you got their data clock. He's nine He's nine hours [3:09] in. He's still vertical. >> Very good. He hasn't said no. Um but uh [3:13] yeah, I just wanted to introduce Trip. So maybe if Trip, you want to just say [3:16] hello few minutes again. I know you guys have an agenda tonight. So [3:20] » you followed Jeff for several years and I know how important the city is to to [3:24] the university and got big shoes to fill, but I look forward to working with [3:28] each and every one of you. So [3:39] » mic presentation ever. >> All right. Okay. Well, [3:44] » thank you. Thank you, Jennifer. I appreciate I'll see you all before. [3:48] » Please do not get out of hand. >> Thank you so much. Okay. [3:53] » All right. Bittersweet for sure. All right. Next item. 020326. [3:58] Presentation. I'm going to miss you. All right. Tell Mary I said hey. Okay. I [4:02] will. All right. Thank you. >> Um presentation from Sims Garden [4:04] director Amy Weiss brought to us from Mr. Smith. Amy, how you doing? [4:07] » Is that really what it looks like? Okay. [laughter] [4:12] » Okay. Um, well, this is normally a 30-minute presentation, but I was told I [4:15] had 10, and then I was told I have five, so I'm going to like go through this [4:19] real quick. Um, I am the executive director of Miss Sims Garden Botanical [4:24] Park in Homewood, which many of you may not realize is a city-owned park. Um, [4:28] but it is managed in the same way that the botanical gardens um, in Birmingham [4:32] and Aldridge Gardens is managed. It's owned by the city, but managed by a [4:36] nonprofit. So the 501c3 is the Misss Sims Garden Foundation. Used to be [4:41] Birmingham Southern, but we set up the Misss Sims Garden Foundation, [4:44] unfortunately, when Mrs. Sims alma mater closed. But very glad that that's being [4:49] taken over by the Coast Guard now. Um, if you'll go to the next slide. I'm [4:52] sorry for the people in the room that are seeing this, but oh, that looks [4:55] better. Okay, so Miss Sims and her mother purchased the property in 1964. [5:01] This is the house that's still standing. It's a little different today, but [5:05] essentially that is still there. It's about a hundred years old now because [5:08] the house was built in 1927 thereabouts. It's an estimated number. We're not sure [5:13] if you'll go to the next slide. She over time purchased the additional [5:18] four lots. So, it's a total of five 1920s lot lines. Can you guys see that [5:22] over there? Okay. Um, and it is in the Edgewood neighborhood. So, this used to [5:26] all be cattle ranching. And those of you who know the history of Homewood, the [5:30] very first Edgewood city council meeting was about keeping your cattle on your [5:34] property. So, [laughter] we have the original cattle fencing in the garden [5:39] and right across the street, the original farmhouse still stands. So, [5:42] this is a very old part of Homewood. Um, the soil is excellent. It's never been [5:46] touched. So, we can grow a lot of really great things in the garden. If you'll go [5:50] to the next slide. Um, so Miss Sims was quite the lady. She was Homewood Citizen [5:55] of the Year in 2002, but by that time she had already amassed a huge [6:01] following. She um was one of the most popular articles in the Grumpy Gardener [6:05] Southern Living article. I don't know if you guys ever read that. Inspired him [6:09] and Felder Rushing to write a book called The Passalong Plant Book. Um it [6:14] was just a a big thing for her because she never married. Her bow died in the [6:17] war, so she never had children. She said she never met anybody that she liked [6:21] enough to marry after he passed away. So the garden became her legacy and the [6:25] community became her family. Um so she made it known to the city that she was [6:29] going to leave her property to be managed as a botanical park. And if [6:33] you'll go to the next slide, um she passed in 2006, but it took until [6:38] December 2009 for the property to convey to the city going through all of these [6:43] processes that we go through now with committees and councils and and probate [6:47] and all of that. Um, so then in 2012, the city contracted with Birmingham [6:52] Southern. In 2018, I was hired. I'm the sixth um, caretaker. And then I [6:59] established the Missims Garden Foundation in um, 2021 and became the [7:04] executive director, but of course, we have a board and I work for the board. [7:07] Um, so in 2018, I really started thinking about how we could make the [7:12] garden more of a community resource. It had kind of just become a passive park. [7:16] people had forgotten about it. The city was kind of like, "Oh, this garden, you [7:20] know." Um, [laughter] so I really um got together with some [7:26] big brains in the landscaping and garden design world at um the botanical gardens [7:30] at Aldridge Gardens. So Rip Weather, Rip Weaver, Henry Hughes, Jane Reed Ross, [7:34] several others in that world. We got together. We held a cheret, which is a [7:37] garden planning design meeting. [snorts] Um, and we came up with a plan to turn [7:42] this into a demonstration garden for residential landscape design. And what [7:47] that means is best practices in storm water management, best practices in tree [7:51] management, best practices in what you plant where for our climate and for our [7:57] suburban environment. So really thinking about how can we make this a teaching [8:01] garden, which is what Miss Sims really wanted, and teach the community how to, [8:06] you know, have a garden, how to have a landscape in their home environment that [8:10] is both good for human health and the environmental health. Um, so we started [8:15] fundraising for that plan in 2020. And if you'll click on this little button [8:19] here, Brian, it'll open up the landscape design. And I was really pleased when [8:24] Kale came on board because his first day there was huge storm water issues and he [8:28] came to the garden on his first day and said,"I would really love," Sorry, Kale, [8:32] I'm gonna quote you. I always quote you on this one because it's such a great [8:35] quote. Can you get that to pull up again? [8:37] » I did. >> Um, it's also on the next slide. So, he [8:42] said, "I would love to use this to demonstrate to developers, homeowners, [8:47] home builders, contractors, landscapers how to do storm water." It was right [8:51] around that time we were redoing our storm water ordinances in the city. Um [8:56] well so that's what this plan does and um [9:02] every part of we're going to break ground on this later this year um with [9:05] landscape services and every part of this includes best management practices. [9:11] So this is permeable brick paving. We have to have ADA compliance because it's [9:15] a city-owned property. Anytime that you make improvements has to be handicapped [9:19] accessible. So, but we're using permeable brick for that. We have dry [9:23] creek beds, rain gardens. There's inground detention here. This is a wet [9:28] pond, which is in the shape of a creek bed, so it'll look like a flowing [9:31] natural creek, but it'll be pretty and functional. Um, it will go into an above [9:35] ground retention pond. So, we'll have a lot more water features in the garden, [9:39] which everybody enjoys, good for the wildlife. Um, we're expanding the event [9:44] space. We currently rent this out. Uh, and so we're going to be able to expand [9:48] that. just had 50 women playing maong in the garden on Saturday and raised $5,000 [9:52] for the garden. Um, and so we need to be able to do more of those events. Um, but [9:57] we need to be handicapped accessible. Um, and if you'll go to the next slide. [10:02] Oh. [laughter] [10:05] Okay. So, just um, this plan is broken into three phases just so you guys know. [10:09] And Kale has a copy of the engineered designs for this and this and the bid [10:13] and everything if any of you guys want to see that. Um phase one is the storm [10:18] water BMPPS accessibility irrigation and all along the way we're documenting what [10:23] we're doing because we're not just looking at trying to be the example for [10:26] storm water and biodiversity but also how you comply with city ordinances. So, [10:31] how do you comply with the tree protection during construction, you [10:35] know, part of the tree ordinance? And being that example and documenting that [10:39] along the way so that the city has videos and images and a place to show [10:44] people this is what we mean when we say that you have to retain the first one in [10:48] flush, for example. Um, so really a teaching point for the city and for the [10:53] nonprofit in the community. Um, phase two, we're looking at outdoor kitchen, [10:58] solar powered greenhouse, completing the planting part of the garden design, and [11:03] starting to develop programs and interpretive signage for the garden. [11:06] Phase three is a historical home restoration so that we can expand our [11:10] program capacity. Right now, I live in the house. That is my only compensation. [11:14] Every caretaker before me has lived in the house. That's just that's just how [11:17] it worked because there was no money to pay anybody. So, my husband is a nurse, [11:21] thankfully. So, that's how we make it work. But I am very much full-time in [11:26] the garden doing social media, doing fundraising, doing all the budgeting, [11:30] doing all the grant writing, doing everything. Um, and I do have a lot of [11:34] volunteers. I do have the board that helps, but it is definitely a lot of [11:39] work. But when I move out of the house, we've been building up the [11:43] sustainability side, the financial sustainability side, so that the board [11:47] can afford to pay a caretaker and that we can turn the house into an part of [11:51] the event space as well. since we're limited by weather. Um, go to the next [11:55] slide and then I think I'm done. Yeah. So, just going through really quickly, [11:59] we offer individual and family sponsorships. We're going to start a [12:02] campaign to sell bricks for the garden. Um, legacy bricks. You can go to the [12:06] next slide. Uh, we just had the maong in the garden. [12:10] We're going to be doing our um homewood centennial plant sale this year [12:13] celebrating the centennial along with the rest of the city. And that'll be [12:17] featuring all heirloom plants and native plants. If you'll go to the next slide. [12:22] Uh we're gonna have our seventh annual pumpkin patch in the garden where we go [12:26] through 5,000 pumpkins and about six or 700 moms every year and it's visited by [12:31] thousands of people. And then we're also benefiting from a centennial gayla. So [12:37] October 15th we'll kick off the weekend of centennial celebration events. So I [12:43] hope that you all can attend that. It's going to be really fun, but it'll be [12:45] benefiting the garden as well. So that's great for us. You'll go to the next [12:49] slide. We have our volunteer days here and you [12:54] can go to the next slide. And that's the end. If anybody has questions, you can [12:58] definitely come see me at the garden. I would love to give you guys a tour. Um, [13:02] I know y'all got to roll on, but thank you very much for having me. [13:06] » Thank you, Amy. >> Thank you, Amy. Thank you so much. [13:10] That was great. All right, next item. 030326. [13:15] Request to declare miscellaneous library items surplus. Brought to us from Peter [13:19] Freight. [13:24] There's a couple of different pages. It's a lot of uh either really big items [13:28] like our old boardroom uh table is getting surplus because we've now [13:32] renovating that area with a new table. Uh and then lots of little small things [13:36] that are just no longer applicable for what we do. Um [13:40] so all right, any questions for Judith? [13:46] Um, without objection, we are going to have the first reading and vote on [13:50] unanimous consent tonight. So, unless anyone objects to that, so we will [13:55] hopefully handle business tonight in council next door. So, all right. [14:00] » Okay. Well, we'll leave you up here. Yep. Yes, you are. Okay. 040326 request [14:05] for consideration for an ABC240 special event nonprofit taxexempt license for [14:10] the Homewood Library Foundation block party in the library parking lot at 1721 [14:14] Oxmore Road on Saturday, April 25th from 4 to 6:30. Yes. So, this is the Homewood [14:21] Library Foundation's biggest event of the year. We do have a temporary uh [14:24] liquor license from the ABC board. They'll issue it the week of, but we've [14:28] already submitted our application. It has been approved. Um, and so this we [14:32] usually I come to the public safety committee, which is now, y'all. Um, just [14:36] to get approval to have this in the library parking lot, which is covered by [14:40] our insurance and everything. Um, and it's a lot of fun. I plan to send y'all [14:44] invitations, but save the date because it's about 1500 people that show up for [14:48] two and a half hours of just loving your library. [14:51] » That's nice. Awesome. Um, we are waiting on this one, correct? Or this is we'll [14:56] wait and handle this at our March 23rd meeting on that. So, okay, perfect. [15:00] Thank you, Judah. Thank you. >> All right. Next item. 050326. [15:07] Request for budget amendment for train intelligence services agreement signed [15:10] by resolution 2536 for services provided March the 1st, 2025 through September [15:15] 30th, 2025. Mr. Smith. >> Yeah. Brian, you have Yep. So, um JJ and [15:22] I JJ probably knows more about this, but I'm going to try to cover it. [15:26] We met with Train and with Lee Garrett. So, train provides us um last year they [15:32] provided us with intelligent system services which means that they can [15:36] control the environment within city hall from offsite and it saves us a ton of [15:41] money each year. We intended to budget for it and have them provide the service [15:46] the entire year this year and I didn't know that it wasn't happening but it's [15:50] not happening. Uh, so they came back to us and said, "Hey, we'd love to continue [15:54] these services with you guys and saving money." And so that's that's what this [15:57] is, is to move um 75 $7,540 [16:04] from carryover fund balance uh into building repairs and maintenance [16:11] for the for them to continue service through the end of this fiscal year. And [16:16] then next budget cycle, we'll budget them for the entire year. [16:21] It helps Lee Garrett, who is our our building um kind of manager [16:27] to know where how the dials are set. There's a lot of uh there's a lot of [16:31] touch points within city hall that you know dampers and all this mechanical [16:35] stuff that I don't kind of out of my league, but um [16:39] » it saves the city money. >> This keeps this helps them from being [16:42] off I guess on site for That's right. All of their [16:45] » Y >> and they can manage controls from where [16:48] they are. >> How does that work on the third floor? [16:50] We not Does that have anything to do with the third floor? [16:52] » Do you know JJ? >> How does it work on the third floor? [16:55] » Yeah, they do the whole building. >> They do the whole building. [16:58] » Yeah. So, it allows them to have a set. So, you can just move it up or down two [17:05] degrees. You can't before you could adjust [17:09] » because weekends change. I mean, the weekends like maybe [17:13] » Yes. Well, because of Rosewood Hall, they monitor that as well [17:18] » because the church to use that on Sundays and then they have other events [17:24] during the week at night and on the weekend. So they monitor that [17:29] » so that they have control of there's no wide swings like five degrees here five [17:37] degrees on the first floor five degrees below you know change [17:47] » it's a good service to have [17:52] All right. Well, without objection, we will carry this over to our meeting on [17:57] March 23rd. Um, thank you so much for that [18:00] information. Um, all right. Next item is 060326. [18:05] Request for approval to keep a new retaining wall in the city right away at [18:08] 521 Edgel Drive. Mr. Pew. >> Yes. Um, [18:14] Gordon's here. This particular uh retaining wall was built. It was [18:18] discovered at final inspection. Um, you can see the property line marker that [18:25] the surveyor left there. The new retaining wall extended somewhat into [18:30] the rightway. Uh, it was caught sort of after the fact. It's on a dead end. It's [18:35] not hurting anything, but it's in the rightway. So, I uh [18:42] I brought it here so y'all can look at it. [18:46] Any questions? >> And it's in the rideway. So, what do we [18:53] » So, typically it it could stay if with an approved indemnification agreement, [18:59] just an agreement stating that that the homeowner understands that if say the [19:04] city ever wants to put a sidewalk there, it has to go away. Or it it makes sure [19:10] that the owner understands that even though it's in the right way, it's [19:13] theirs to maintain. [19:18] Just to be clear, too, that is that is the property line to the back. [19:23] » No sir, that's in the front. So, we >> stake. [19:27] » Yeah, I'm confused, too. >> That's has a road. We're talking about [19:33] the road. Are we talking about to the stake to the left? [19:35] » No. So, yes, it was um I want to make sure I'm answering the right question. [19:41] So, if you're driving up Edgol, here's the dead end over here. [19:46] » I was standing about right here in the road taking a picture. [19:51] » I got you. [19:55] » Is that the road right there where the leaves are? [19:57] » Yes. >> So, we [19:59] » right here. >> Yes. [20:01] » This is sort of the valley gutter. Okay. There's there's no issue with u [20:11] there's somebody gets hurt by somebody hits that [20:15] spot because it's all the way to the road. That's kind of unusual, is it not? [20:21] » There was I will say before they built this, there was a little stacked stone [20:26] wall there. So there there's always been a a wall there, but they took it down [20:31] and rebuilt it out of this. >> That is a dead end [20:33] » sort of. Yeah. The problem the problem with this area is and this was never in [20:38] the budget to even do. I didn't want to spend the money doing it. But the the [20:42] driveway I couldn't even get in and out of the driveway with my truck. It's real [20:46] narrow and you would have to literally back up the I was backing up edge null [20:51] to be able to turn to get out. This just gives you a better rate a better radius [20:57] to turn in and to turn out. So I mean that was [21:01] almost out of necessity. the the rolloff people, the dumpster people busted up [21:05] what was there before. So, >> does the show [21:11] » That's great, Brian. Thank you. Does the retaining wall currently go flush to the [21:16] gutter there or does it stop? >> It it comes it comes down to where the [21:21] driveway is. Yeah, it just continues up. >> But the the rolloff people busted all [21:27] that stuff up and I end up having to do something. I didn't really want to do [21:30] anything to tell you the truth. It just cost me money and headache obviously. [21:34] » And you got the fence there and then it's ox more right on the other side. [21:38] » That's right. >> Yeah. That's just a dead end. [21:46] » See, you I you would literally have to back up the street to get out of that [21:49] driveway. I mean, it's just a mess. [22:00] What's that? What's your name, sir? >> What's that? [22:02] » What's your name, sir? >> Uh, Gordon Morton. G O R D O N. M O R D [22:06] O N. >> Any other questions for Mr. Morton? [22:11] » All right, Mr. Morton, we will take this up at our March 23rd meeting for a vote. [22:16] Thank you so much for coming to present that to us. We appreciate it. [22:18] » I'll send you that. >> Okay. [22:22] Okay. Um 070326 requests for consideration to permit use [22:26] of the city hall plaza for spring and fall 2026 tournaments by Yay. Cornhole [22:31] be hands back. >> I think we got a couple of phrases over [22:34] here. How yall doing? Y >> good to see you all again. [22:38] » Good to see you guys. >> I'm Sam. I'm with Cornhole. So uh we [22:41] were here to request obviously permission to use the plaza again. We've [22:44] been setting up on the uh social taco side which is on the other side just [22:48] because we asked them where their approach is where they like to drive in [22:50] the most business. So they had told us that with the tacos kind of more spot [22:55] for them. So be on Monday nights from about we usually get here about 5:30. [22:58] We're out here about 7:15 7:30 me and him handle all the trash. There's any [23:02] trash picked up. We pick up all the trash. It's from Monday April 6 to [23:06] Monday May 11th six weeks back to back to back on Monday nights. And uh that's [23:12] pretty much it. Can I just clarify? Did you say you're going to move where [23:16] you're doing it? This is where you've always done it. Are you moving it over [23:19] there, too? >> Yes. So, we usually It's up to So, they [23:21] choose it. They usually have to put on the taco side just for the business. So, [23:25] be on if you're looking at the plaza on the right side versus the left. Does [23:29] that make sense? [clears throat] >> And so, do you want And I've got on the [23:33] agenda item, it also mentions fall 2026. Are y'all ready to talk about fall yet? [23:38] » We're not We haven't We haven't got to fall date yet, but it would be the week. [23:41] It would be after the week after Labor Day would be the start date. I don't [23:43] know what Labor Day is. >> Do you want to get us some dates? Um [23:48] » yes, Sam. >> Sam. [23:50] » Uh we could hold off on the falls. Like I said, we don't even talked about the [23:52] fall yet. So we could hold we just get approval spring. Yes, ma'am. P I E. [23:56] » Okay. >> T R A N. [23:59] » T R A N. T O N I. >> Okay. [24:05] It sounds like where to go. >> Yeah. [24:10] » If if I mean we can set up on the social side if that's easy. [24:14] » I was just asking him if if he thought we needed I needed to provide a new [24:18] exhibit. Show us the whole thing. But [24:24] » any questions for Cornhall? Uh just my only question at this point [24:30] is I mean you're only talking about usage of Mondays at this point and you [24:34] have no no plans at this point beyond May 11th. [24:40] » Is only May 11th right now. Okay. We're looking at some other things for the [24:43] summer. So I just want to confirm we don't do anything. [24:46] » All right. Perfect. Thank you. >> Okay. Great. Okay. So we'll take this up [24:49] on our March 23rd meeting if that's okay. Is that okay? Timeline for you [24:52] guys to get going for February uh for April 6. April 6th. Sounds good. Thank [24:57] you guys. Good to see you all. >> Thanks you guys. [25:00] » All right. Next item. 080326. >> Request to set a public hearing for [25:06] declaring property at 2011 Dale Avenue. A public nuisance due to a dead tree [25:11] brought to us from Mr. Cook. Is he here today? Mr. Cook. [25:15] » Mr. Pew. Are you speaking for Mr. Cook? [25:21] » What? Are you speak to the Dale Avenue item, too? I'm sorry. [25:26] » I'm sorry. >> You're fine. The Dale Avenue [25:28] » 080326 Dale Avenue >> 2011 Dale Avenue. [25:31] » Yes. What about that? >> Can you speak to that? Sure. [25:34] » Mr. Cook is not here. >> Oh, absolutely. [25:36] » Yes. >> Public nuisance due to a dead tree. [25:41] » Yes, that's right. Um, >> any pictures? [25:44] » No, I haven't received anything. >> Oh, I didn't realize Scott had submitted [25:48] that, but um I'm not even sure he meant to do that. [25:53] » Do you want us Yeah. >> Okay. Just leave us here. Okay. [25:57] » So, this is just a request to set a public hearing to declare it a nuisance. [26:01] Right. So, >> that's right. We've gotten we we could [26:03] move forward with it because we have gotten several complaints about there [26:06] being a large dead tree there and Scott has gone out there and confirmed. Yes. [26:10] It and it needs to be removed. >> Is this a 30-day notice for the public [26:14] hearing? >> Well, we're going to set it on the 23rd [26:18] anyway. Is that okay? >> I think that'll give [26:20] » Okay. All right. So, we'll set public hearing on the 23rd and it's probably [26:23] gonna be a four-week uh four-week notice. Okay. [26:27] » Does that work? >> That sounds like a plan. [26:28] » Okay. So, that gives us six weeks. >> This tree is not in the uh [26:33] » right away, right? >> No sir. [26:35] » Okay. >> Okay. All right. Okay. [26:39] » All right. Let's see. 090326 request for consideration for Jack and [26:43] Jill of America to use council chambers. Chambers brought to us from councelor [26:48] CZ. Oh, you want to kick it off and then go? [26:51] » Go ahead. >> All right. So, Jack and Gio is an uh [26:56] it's a membership organization for women and their children, female, their [27:03] children. And and what it does, it it's a service organization. They they really [27:09] put emphasis on serving the community um in various capacities whether it be you [27:17] know you getting involved in local politics or even you know uh [27:24] understanding what you know local government is um [27:28] just so you're you know and you're you're a breast of it. So they [27:32] approached me, part of their activity, they do a bunch of different activities [27:36] they they've done, you know, to give kids to to broaden their pallet. They [27:40] they did a tasting for them of various foods. Um because a lot of these kids [27:45] don't get that opportunity. Um um I'm trying to think of another [27:50] event that they did. I can't remember. Um but long story short, it's a great [27:55] organization. Uh we're part of it. I was asked to speak at this [28:01] um time as well. My experience during the campaign and you know fast forward [28:08] responsibilities now uh which I agreed to do. There's another council member [28:13] from Helina that's going to do the same thing. He's a part of the organization [28:18] as well. And it's really we're going to create a mock uh council, you know, a [28:24] meeting for them. Uh we'll do an agenda. Um, we'll put some silly stuff on there [28:29] that they can vote on, but then we thought about putting maybe one serious [28:33] item, you know, the silly stuff to keep them engaged because, you know, as you [28:37] know, pre-teens, their attention span is about as short as a [28:43] short >> as adults, right? [28:44] » Yeah. [laughter] Yeah. [28:48] » But then but then put something serious to make them think um and really to get [28:52] them engaged and to to to really show them, you know, what you know work what [28:57] this work is about. So great. I think it's a great opportunity for us to be um [29:02] engaging in the community and allow them to come in and to see what we do and how [29:07] we do it. Um and you know, you know, that mock uh um council meeting I think [29:13] will be interesting to see how these kids [clears throat] react. [29:16] That's it. Any questions on that? >> You can We had some kids that came by [29:21] with their competition and they fourth graders were mad that the fifth graders [29:25] got seconds of crispositos and so the fourth graders were running out of [29:28] crispos so they had us that could be something you could add to your crisp. [29:32] » The crispos that is universal. >> Yes, very much [laughter] so. [29:38] » My house. >> Okay. Well, we are going to take that up [29:40] tonight. So we will move that out tonight [29:43] » uh without objection there. Awesome. Okay. Any other questions for councelor [29:47] S on that? >> If anybody want to come [29:53] » join in that is uh >> the 29th Sunday. [29:57] » Yeah. >> Sunday evening. Correct. [29:59] » That's right. >> Okay. [30:00] » And it's going to last about an hour and a half. [30:03] You know, I told him, "If you want me to speak, you better give me a time frame, [30:08] and that means 10 minutes, and I'll I'll honor that. But if you don't tell me, I [30:15] [laughter] could go longer. It's possible." [30:18] » All right. Um, okay. Bo, do you need us to uh any discussion on 110326 [30:24] consideration for an ABC 140 special events retail license? [30:30] » I mean, it's it's basically they've they've gotten It's not it's not [30:33] anything that they have to have uh you know uh anything from police and [30:38] fire approval from police and fire. It's just they have their they got approval [30:41] from ABC to do this. >> So we'll have that on the council agenda [30:44] when we go out. >> Yes. On council agenda. [30:47] » Okay. At this time, I would entertain a motion for the council to enter into [30:51] executive session pursuant to Alabama Code 36257 [30:56] to discuss preliminary negotiations involving matters of trade or commerce [31:00] in which Homewood is in in competition with other governmental bodies in [31:04] Alabama. [31:07] » Make a motion to go into executive session. [31:10] » Second. >> All right. I have got a motion from [31:12] Councelor Sims with a second from councelor Armstead. Um Mr. Seers, can we [31:16] have a roll call vote, please? Yes, ma'am. [31:19] » Councelor Simmons. >> Yes. [31:20] » Councelor Sims. >> Yes. [31:22] » Councelor Lane. >> Yes. [31:23] » Councelor Armstead. >> Yes. [31:25] » Mayor Anders. >> Yes. Okay. That passes 5 to zero. So now [31:28] I'm going to ask our city attorneys for a declaration as to whether the proposed [31:31] executive session falls within the stated exception of the open meetings [31:34] act. >> It does. Uh the proposed executive [31:36] session involves discussions that would have a detrimental effect on Homewood's [31:39] competitive position if disclosed outside of an executive session and [31:44] falls within the exception. >> Thank you so much. All right. Well, this [31:47] Council meetings adjourn until 6 and we will reconvene in the council chambers [31:50] at our regular scheduled time. So we will see everybody next door minus Mr. [31:55] Smith uh Mr. Gaston and city attorneys and council. [32:00] » Yes. [32:04] » Thank you guys. >> Where are we going? [32:13] You know,