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start.

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Please be attending while we have
prayer. Dear heavenly father, we ask

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that uh we all come together here for
this meeting and we all uh

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honor this meeting with our uh with our
patience and that we close this meeting

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in harmony. In your name we pray. Amen.
>> Amen.

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» Pledge of allegiance.
I aliance to the flag of the United

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States of America and to the republic
for which it stands. One nation under

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God, indivisible, with liberty and
justice for all

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of the business
>> for June 16th, 2026. I'll entertain a

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motion.
I'll make a motion to approve.

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We made a motion. Do I have a second?
>> I have a second.

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» Do I have any discussion?

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» Hearing none.
Shannon,

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» yes.
>> Her.

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» Yes.
>> Yes. Okay.

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» Approval of claims.
>> We move we pay the claims.

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» I have a motion to accept the claims. Do
I have a second?

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» I'll second.
>> I have a second from her.

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Do I have any discussion?

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Hearing none. Shannon.
>> Yes.

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» Her.
>> Yes. Yeah. Yeah. No. Yes.

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» Okay. Whole business.
>> Is Emily here from Strand?

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» Um, she's not. Homer, I'm sure she's
done a little bit late. Uh, would you

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mind
>> about this?

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» Yeah. Would you mind if we uh go ahead
and go with me for the CCMG paving?

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» Yeah, let's do that. Get back to Emma.
Here she is. Right here. Oh, okay.

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Emily, you're up. Emily, you're up.
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» I ran back
and light up here.

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» Thank you. Sorry for Jason. So,
>> that's okay.

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» Okay.
>> Hi, everyone.

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» Hi.
>> So, sorry.

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» We're waiting on you.
>> Oh, that's great. You'll have to hear

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that at a time. Um, okay. So, update on
the project. We, the contractor has

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applied for substantial completion. Um,
that's already come and gone. We have a

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final substantial completion letter out
to them. Uh, so after that comes final

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completion. With Okra, the way the
funding agency works uh is we'll apply

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for that final uh final completion step
essentially at once they've completed

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all the work. And since we added some
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that's going to be in the October time
frame. So, we have one more pay

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application that I brought with me. Um
it's pay application 4. Talked about it

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with Jason. It's already been signed by
everyone, but just I think he said he

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was putting it in your packets as well.
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» how much is that for?
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Application four was for
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9. Uh that's withholding retainage. So,
what we had kind of worked out with them

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is just to keep it clean, we're only
waiting on Ballards. Um, and it worked

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out that retainage is about $19,000, if
I'm remembering correctly. Yeah,

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$19,464.
So, um, they they agreed to just keep

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retainage in there and we'll handle that
in the final payoff and then we'll also

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process the next change order in the
last payout and that includes the

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ballards that we're adding. So,
um, yeah. Do I need to request their

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approval to pay that?
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» Okay. So, we're requesting your approval
for payment of that.

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» So, I entertain a motion. I'll make a
motion to pay out.

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I have a motion for payout.
I have a second.

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I have a second.
Do I have any discussion?

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Uh, I have a couple things. Okay. You
guys can go through that. After

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you go through the motion.
>> After I go through the motion. Okay.

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There. No discussion.
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» I'm going to abstain from this one
because I didn't I couldn't understand

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all that she said.
>> Sorry about that.

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» Yes.
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» Did she approve?
She was saying okay.

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And I have one more document as well. Um
so this is for change order number three

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which is those ballards that we were
talking about. Um so that is for

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providing and installing uh ballards at
the air release valve the air release

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valve locations that are out in the farm
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» These are D's request. Um and so Mr.
request. And so that ended up being

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$9,090
uh from the contractor. That's what

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they'll completing. That's what they'll
be be completing in October following

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Mr. Dodd actually harvesting his field,
>> right? For harvest,

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» right? And then so I just need your
signature and approval on that one as

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well.
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Do we need a motion? Yeah.
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change order number three.
>> I have a second.

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» Yeah, I'll second it.
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any discussion?
>> Hearing none. Shannon.

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» Yeah.
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» Yes. Before
you leave, I do have complaint that they

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need to level up the dirt that they
promised to level the dog property.

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» Yes.
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» that will be part of their final
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We've noted restoration needs to be
completed to get their final payment.

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» He's had he's had to go out and level
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Okay. Yeah, we can definitely
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» I can note it and then I can also reach
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and see what's going on there.
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and those are the two payment requests
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» Um, there's a third letter OMR uh that
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completion stages. It was too late when
Mr. Dodd came to Evan, the uh

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construction manager at Lawyers
Excavation to get the ballers in for

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this season. So rather than damaging
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other to do that after harvest. Yes,
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» Uh we're shooting for late October to be
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» right?
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uh damages that are still
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God and Mr.
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that, right? or yes by Okay. Yeah.
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» Yes, I can I will reach out to them and
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» Okay. And I signed your doc.
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» And that was it for them.

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» Anyone that's going up to the podium
tonight, can you please speak directly

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to the microphones? That's the only way
Shannon's going to hear you.

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Good evening, council.
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the community crossing uh paving project
that's going on. And also last month I

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wanted to discuss about the road
inventory that I'm in the process of

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doing. Um I'll start with road
inventory. Um it is not completed as of

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yet, but I did ride around with uh Tony
uh Agles from Strand in the new mini

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truck which worked excellent in in
95°ree weather with the air conditioning

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on. Um and uh we looked at three roads,
well two roads mainly that I would like

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to spend money on uh next year for the
community crossing matching grant. Um

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Schaefer Drive beside the bank going to
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Brookside Drive. Um and also the
entrance to Liberty Place, which is all

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the same road. Um, looks like we're
going to have to do a lot of uh repairs

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to that road. Um, probably a full depth
repair with some drainage issues as

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well. That road gets underwater a lot
in, uh, springtime and and, you know,

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the fall rains. So, uh that's the number
one priority road that I see this far

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into um
uh the road inventory. And also uh I

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noted in my town manager report as well
that South Street is uh uh the road base

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is awesome and uh kudos uh to Strand
um for building that road um many years

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ago. I think it's lasted a long time. I
think it was 20 years ago that that road

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was built by Hope's own uh Mr. Steve
um who was who has since retired from

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straight. Um I would like to look into
chip sealing that road. Um not doing

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anything with the road base itself. Um
chip sealing and then also putting a fog

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coat which is like uh similar to seal
coating like we did on the square on top

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of the chip seal. Um, it should last. If
we do that, um, I think we would see

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another six or seven years out of it
before we really need to think about

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repaving that that particular road. Um,
of course, we crack seal it first and uh

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then chip and seal and then put a a fog
coat on top of that. Um, it should last

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[snorts] for another few years. And um I
hate to uh start looking at the cost of

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repaving that road right now because it
would be a substantial amount of of

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money. And by chip sealing it and fog
coating, I think we'd be spending a

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maybe a third the money on that we would
on seal coating or I'm sorry on paper.

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So would the new steel company that's
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have any
I mean I guess I would be uh extra wear.

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So would that
would you actually get six to seven

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years out of it?
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as much heavy traffic as as what's been
on it. And Ed, you probably remember

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best
um on when that road was done.

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» Long time ago. I know it's been at least
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» Yeah. I don't I remember it being done
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» Yeah.
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to the county road also to the county
jurisdiction also. I'm sorry, I didn't

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understand that.
>> The Well, the road right now is short

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being
fastened up to the to the county road,

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attached to the county road. That needs
that section needs all the help it can

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get.
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» So, we need to
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Street and
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» Yes.
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at that section. Maybe we can mill and
uh uh pave that little small section and

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then chip and seal the rest. That might
be a a good bang for our buck. But I

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think doing all of South Street
currently is out our budget.

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» Understand that. But we do need to take
care when we do part of it. We need to

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do the whole thing.
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Um the uh
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» when you chip and seal, how long do you
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» It's fairly shortly, like a day or so
after they chip seal the road. They'll

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they'll come back and they'll put a uh
uh quick drying tar on top of that chip

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seal. It's more than just tar.
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loose? It retains all the loose stuff so
it doesn't fling on everybody's cars as

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they're driving.
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» Um which is that's why they do it is to
um you know on uh not so heavily

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traveled roads in a regular city. That's
why they do that on um because it won't

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fling rocks.
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um the uh CCG paving portion of uh this
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There are three rows left to do. Um
after they did go Meadows in

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Rejuvenator, I had them stop temporarily
uh because of Main Street Fiber and all

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of the the craziness that's been going
on with roads blocked and um trucks

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parked and things in the way. Um so uh
Mainstream is going to be finished um in

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the next week or two at the most and
then they will start doing uh uh the

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patchwork on the streets. Um and they
have assured me that they will have

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those three roads in question at least
done prior to Allstar coming back on

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August 17th.
Um, so then Allstar, who we have a

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contract with for 2026, will be doing
rejuvenator and also um

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seal coating on Scott Street. And
they're going to rejuven all of uh

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Jackson Street from Aken all the way to
right outside the town hall. Um, and

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then also Brookside Drive is uh the
third street that still needs to have a

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rejuvenator placed on it. Um, I think
the rejuvenator is looking good still

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and uh I'm pretty satisfied with what it
does and how it's acted on um Liberty

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Place. I think it uh has softened up
that road and added a lot of uh good

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ingredients back to the asphalt to keep
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One of the things we might want to work
on there too is where they dug these

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holes in the road.
U the fiber company, they need to

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compact that stuff before they put
asphalt down.

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» Um I've been working
>> getting kind of deep.

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» I've been working with Mainstream on
that. And uh as you recall in 2023 you

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passed a street cut ordinance and they
are aware of our street cut ordinance as

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well as our alleyway
um gravel and grass remediation that was

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all in that ordinance and they have it
and they have assured me that that will

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all be done per our ordinances. Um, so I
don't have any doubt that that will be

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done correctly.

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» Okay,
>> that's all I have on CCMG and road

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inventory. Are there any roads in
particular that the council would like

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to see me double check

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that you can think [clears throat] of
off the top of your head?

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No,
>> I'll pop my head now.

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» Okay, I'll let you know next month um
once I get all the road inventory

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completed on uh what roads that um seem
to be bad in the inventory and uh we'll

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discuss further prior to the uh
September CCMG round.

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Okay. Thank you, Jason.
>> Thank you.

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» Main Street P.
>> Okay.

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» Yes.
>> Yeah. He needs a motion. Yeah.

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» I also need a motion to pay uh Thanks,
Diane. Um, I also need a motion to pay

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Allstar Paving for what they've done
currently, which is, um, just in the pay

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app is all of Broad Street and Meadow
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um, which they've already paved this
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Enter motion.

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» Thanks, John. I have a second.
I'll second it. Thanks, Herb. Any

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discussion

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hearing? None. Shannon.
>> Yeah.

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» Herb.
>> Yeah.

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» Ed.
>> Yeah.

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» John.
>> Yeah.

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» 5.

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Okay. Now we're ready for Mainstream.
>> Yeah. Um Vance is one of the project

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managers with Mainstream. I asked him to
uh submit to me a uh quick letter with

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an update on the overall project. Um
and uh the construction phase of the

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project remains on schedule and is
inspected in expected to be completed by

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the end of July. Um overall con uh
progress continues to track well. Um

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there have been some uh utility locate
delays and uh that's actually been a

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fairly big issue that I would like to
discuss with you. As you know, they're

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in Gan Meadows right now. And uh we have
easements um

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in Gan Meadows, but since Gan Meadows
has built, there's been built there's uh

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uh restricted access to those easements
due to fences that have been built over

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our easement. [clears throat] So, the
community is pretty upset that

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Mainstream Fiber is walking into their
backyards. Um, some are claiming without

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permission and uh I just kind of wanted
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yes, they are. They have been in some uh
people's backyards without permission

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and uh the only thing they're doing in
those backyards is to do the locates

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that are actually in our easement and
their fence is not on their property

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line. It is going over our easement. So,
we have no access other than to go into

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someone's backyard to look at the
easement, which has been a huge problem.

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Um, Mainstream has done their due
diligence to uh post door knockers on

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people's um front doors and uh most
everybody has obliged and called, but

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there's still 10 or 12 residents in Gan
Meadows that uh um they have yet to

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locate and that's causing a pretty major
delay for this project. um it's already

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a week behind um just due to the fact
that they can't locate because they

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can't get access to people's backyards.
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so I don't really know what to do other
than to uh uh ask for advice from the

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council to see what uh they recommend
doing.

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Yeah,
>> I think the law says that if they build

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on an easement that it can be taken
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» It absolutely can.
>> Yes, it does. And that everybody needs

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to keep in mind that is an inherent risk
you take when you decide to build over

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the top of these.
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um I had Jeff in mind
>> I had Jeff, our town lawyer, um look

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into that today and uh perhaps you can
give a little update on on that access

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legally from a legal standpoint, Jeff.
>> Sure. Um, well, I don't come up there,

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but they're correct. Uh, you can
>> you can speak into this.

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» All right.
>> She's not on the

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» We lost her picked out, so you're good.
>> All right. Uh, you cannot block the

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access to the ement. Um, they have their
subject to the ement. So, you the city

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has to be able to, the town has to be
able to get in there and maintain

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utilities. So,
some people don't like it. Um, but

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they're going to have to go through the
fence and go in the backyard.

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So,
>> and it's not just the town that has to

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have access to it. Any utility front,
whether it's correct,

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» REMMC, Duke Energy, Citizens or what is
it? Uh, Center Point,

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» Gas, you know, the town of Hope in their
utility department, AT&T, Comcast,

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everyone's
utilities run through those easements.

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So,
Everyone has to keep in mind that it's

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not just the town that has to have
access to it. It's every company that

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runs their utilities through those.
That's true.

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» And I I don't think it's um unless
unless it's really delaying it. You

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know, I don't want to have to uh uh
destroy someone's illegal fence back

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there just to gain access to the
easement. But um I do know that there

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are a couple properties back there that
have so much junk in the backyards that

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um you can't even do a locate because
over the existing easement there's too

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much junk for the locators to actually
get in there and do magnetic checks to

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do the locates.

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Um, so it's all coming to a head here
pretty soon as far as um, you know, that

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and I'll keep you guys advised of of the
situation and uh, if we have to have a

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special meeting um, this week or next
week, then that's what we'll have to do,

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I reckon.
>> What do we recommend we do to for those

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people to become compliant? Do we need
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Matt has actually been helping out some
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» Matt doesn't want to, but
>> I can't force people to let me into

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that's that's
>> that's

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the issue, not me issue.
>> Okay.

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» Yeah. You just you have a right to be
there and we have to go to court. I

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can't imagine we have to go that far,
but um you have right to be there in the

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in this case.
broad. Um, and then if there are costs

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incurred in moving
stuff so you can access and properly

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access these, then those are cost
responsible.

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» And the reality of it is we're not going
to be there forever. We just wanted

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» Yeah. We just want to get in and out and
and uh finish the project. And in fact,

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the good news is that uh we are 85%
completed. So another week, week and a

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half at the most and all those
construction crews will be out of here.

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And uh then they'll be doing remediation
and road work, road patching, and uh

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then they'll just be installing fiber
through the conduit that they've been

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boring. And uh we shouldn't see too much
of them here in the you know by let's

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say August 5th or 6th.
>> But you got to get that machinery down

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through there too.
>> That's right.

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» Yes.
>> That's right. Well, for what it's worth,

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I had somebody
u hit me up at the huts the other day

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and was complaining about the
uh the new company coming in. I said,

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'We don't want to change. Why are you
making us change?' I said, 'We not

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making you change.' She said, 'I have
blah blah blah and I want to keep them.'

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I said, fine. That's your option. You
can keep those people. You do not have

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to change.
>> And that's exactly what this is, an

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additional option.
It is nothing that is being forced upon

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anyone. Just so we're perfectly clear,
>> right?

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Um overall I would say that um
from a standpoint of just knowing how

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many water manes and gas lines and sewer
lines that we have in this town. Um they

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have hit a few and I've read everything
that I see that has been posted on

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Facebook. I don't respond
[clears throat] to it. I won't respond

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to it, but I've read all of the uh
statements that people have made and uh

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you know overall I think they're in the
99%

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percentile with um going over or under
any of our water fans. They've had some

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um locating issues where there's been
unmarked pipes and uh really that's

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about the only issues that we've had and
it's just a handful. So I mean I I would

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say kudos to
um the contractor that Mainstream hired

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to do this job. I think they've done a
wonderful job.

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And just to be clear, so those are
mislocates that are from a a separate

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company.
>> Correct.

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» Right. So when they they're not actually
the ones who are locating it themselves,

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» right? There's several uh locators that
have been hired to do locates um

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uh for this fiber project as well as uh
um we've had David Klouse here and um

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Jason Mack have been doing locates of
our utilities, water and sewer, and

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they've done a hell of hell of a good
job and have worked their butts off to

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make this this happen. So, um, you know,
kudos to our guys and, uh, the Fiber

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guys, too.

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» In essence, and I agree with her that I
think everybody's done a phenomenal job.

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It's uh, uh, unfortunate that we have
these issues, but it's just part of it's

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just part of uh, construction and part
of

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» Yeah.
>> getting out there and doing a job.

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Anybody who's ever done construction
will tell you they've probably never had

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a job go perfectly smooth.
>> Right.

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» And if you do or you think you do, I can
assure you you didn't. You didn't do

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this.
>> That's right. And on the scale of this

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» doesn't work that way.
>> On the scale of this project um being

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the largest project in the town since
1965,

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I would say that they've done a
wonderful job. Any questions about uh

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mainstream fiber?
>> No.

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» Thank you, Jason.
>> Thank you.

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» Okay.

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Okay. New business. Water tracker.
>> Nope. Nope. Old business. Signed order

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on property.
>> Signed. I'm sorry. We're still in old

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business.
>> Yeah.

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» Yeah.
>> Sorry.

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» Yeah.
>> Um, good evening, council. forward.

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» This is an update on the um I always
forget the address. South Hitchcock

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Court um home.
>> Yeah.

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» Uh we've got the order on summary
judgement. We should have the recipe for

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sheriff sale filed this week hopefully
as soon as possible. Uh because I want

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to make sure we try to get on the um
sheriff sale for September. Um and

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there's a timing issue with notice. So
uh hopefully we'll get that done

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tomorrow. I hope um the judgment at this
point well as of April 30th is $31,884

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that has increased at $542 a day. Um
what will happen is to conduct the

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sheriff sale we'll have to cure any
current um tax faults um which I think

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they owe for
one of the payments last year and the

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May payment. So, and then as you know,
this was lost, the property was lo lost

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to uh tax sale. So, we'll have to pay
that off as well. I think the cost to

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get to share sale from here,
roughly $6,000. I was hoping to have

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that termed up, but I don't have it. Um,
and then

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as soon as I have that number, I'm going
to request that we pay it right away

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because the interest continues on that
um tax sale. Um, so anyway, now that

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once we have the press fee that we can
go to share sale, I'm going to pay it

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off right away. So, I'll get Jason and
Diane and get that done.

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» Jeff, will that $6,000
um be added to the total cost of uh of

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the tax sale?
>> Yes. So, what we'll do at the tax sale

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is bid the judgment amount of whatever
it's grown to at that point plus any of

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those costs that I just talked about.
And then we're either gonna town will

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either own it for that amount without
paying anything else or somebody will

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out bid us by a dollar and you'll get
paid all the money back, which is what

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we hope happens.
So again, I will keep you up to speed,

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but I'm hoping that that'll be the first
week of September [clears throat] is

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we'll get that sale.
>> Do we need a motion to approve the

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amount for the for the tax sale? Well,
that's um if you could approve up to

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maybe seven just to make sure. Um that's
what would keep me say I know it'll be

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under that. So if you could approve up
to seven.

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» I'll I'll entertain a motion for the
7,000.

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» I'll make a motion to approve 7,000.
>> I'll second it.

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» We have a motion in the second. Uh do we
have any discussion?

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» Hearing none. Herb.
>> Yes.

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» Ed?
>> Yes.

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» John?
>> Yes. or zero.

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» Thank you, council.
>> Now,

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water pressure.

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I just wrote it up as town council
discussion. Um there's a uh email um

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that I got from our water and uh our
utility pros Brandon Barthol who works

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for I don't know if you all read that or
not but he was discussing about the uh

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purchase dates and meter dates may not
align exactly with the first to the 30th

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of each month. Um unmetered or hydrate
use we show estimate at the bottom of

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the chart. Um, customer demand water to
be stored in the system from previous

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purchases pro uh possibly leaks vary
from month to month.

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I mean the whole emails in your packet.
[clears throat]

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Those are just the highlights.

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Did everybody get a chance to review
that?

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Yep.
>> And if we're not satisfied with uh with

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these answers, um you can always put it
off.

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» Herb, what's your thoughts?

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» I mean, I read through it. I It answered
some of the questions that I had the

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figures that I had questioned, but I
mean,

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yeah.

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We could also have Brandon here if you
would like for his presence to be

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requested
at the next meeting. Of course,

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we want additional review or we want to
put this ahead.

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Well, I think the issue is we have to
decide whether we want to do the water

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tracker
um implemented the increase or not um

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based upon what was presented last month
last month. So

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that's the issue. I think it's uh I
don't remember off the top of my head

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what it was.
>> 40 cents for00

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» 40 cents for every thousand gallon.
It was either that or

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» four four cents per thousand. I thought
>> I thought it was four.

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» Four four cents per thousand gallon.
>> 41 cents per00.

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» Okay. 4 cents per 100.
>> Yeah.

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Sorry.

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» Yeah.

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» Some might lose a finger or something.

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I saw it.
>> So,

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» wow.
>> I'll I'll tell you about the ink. I've

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been doing Amazon ink because it's like
onethird the cost and sometimes they

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just don't
like the little

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» just was hoping it wasn't used as like
crime scene cleanup. We got some

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recycled.
Um, anyways,

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» try to be cost efficient.
>> I I appreciate that. Thinking outside

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the box. I'm okay with that.
[snorts]

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» Yeah. So, that's that's the u topic of
discussion. Um,

422
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:48,440
is whether we want to

423
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:53,000
make a motion to approve it or not.

424
00:42:55,920 --> 00:43:00,119
I don't think we got much choice.

425
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:16,520
Well, I usually don't make motions, but
I'll make a motion to approve.

426
00:43:20,720 --> 00:43:23,920
Do I have a second?

427
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:35,960
And I don't have a second.
So that motion I I assume is void.

428
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:46,680
» Yeah, the motion just dies.

429
00:43:46,720 --> 00:43:53,359
» So at that point it would be tabled.
till next month.

430
00:43:51,599 --> 00:43:56,680
» So the following month, if you want to
try it again,

431
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:06,640
» I'll make the motion to table for an
additional 30 days.

432
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:13,640
» I'll second that.
I have a motion and a second.

433
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:13,640
Do I have any discussion?

434
00:44:13,839 --> 00:44:17,359
Hearing none. Herb,
>> yes. Ed.

435
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:21,960
» Yep.
>> Yep.

436
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,960
» Yes.

437
00:44:25,119 --> 00:44:30,960
» Yellow Trail Museum fireworks request.
>> You like to go to the podium?

438
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:33,960
» Yes.
>> Yes.

439
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:48,880
» I'm here representing the Yellow Trail
Museum. On June the 26th, we cancelled

440
00:44:47,119 --> 00:44:52,960
all of the outdoor activities for
Oldfashioned Independence Day, which

441
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:58,319
included the fireworks because there
were storms predicted.

442
00:44:55,440 --> 00:45:04,560
And so I'm here to request that the EDIT
money, the EDIT funds that would have

443
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:09,280
been used for the June 26th fireworks,
if we could use those fireworks for the

444
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:12,920
Christmas of yester year, which would be
December the 4th.

445
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:23,079
What's the council's thoughts?

446
00:45:25,599 --> 00:45:29,640
» I think we better do it.

447
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:36,400
» What do you want to put that?
>> I move I move that we allowed to go on

448
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:39,440
to Christmas yesterday year.
>> That a form. Is that a motion?

449
00:45:38,079 --> 00:45:45,119
» Yes,
>> I have a motion. Do I have a second?

450
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:48,119
Have a second from John. I have any
discussion.

451
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:53,440
Hearing none.
>> Herb.

452
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:54,800
» No.
>> Ed.

453
00:45:54,079 --> 00:45:56,720
» Yep.
>> John.

454
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:59,720
» Yes.
>> Uh.

455
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:15,760
What the?
Are we wanting before I answer why are

456
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:20,319
you wanting to do it in during the
Christmas of yesterday year?

457
00:46:17,599 --> 00:46:25,040
» That's our next big event that is
townwide

458
00:46:22,240 --> 00:46:34,960
and half of the balance has already been
paid. 4250 has already been paid

459
00:46:30,079 --> 00:46:39,520
to the uh provider Premier Pyro
which is not refundable.

460
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,560
So we have to either have to use it or
loop it.

461
00:46:40,240 --> 00:46:43,920
» Yes.
>> Yep.

462
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:48,720
» And I think we did this one other year
because of fire hazard. [clears throat]

463
00:46:46,079 --> 00:46:55,839
We couldn't shoot them off and so they
were used at Christmas yesterday.

464
00:46:52,880 --> 00:47:00,000
» So is that what they require is a 50%
deposit,

465
00:46:57,359 --> 00:47:05,560
» a nonrefundable deposit?
>> Yeah, it is.

466
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:05,560
» Wow.

467
00:47:07,119 --> 00:47:14,217
I'm going to move we do it because I'd
rather

468
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:16,160
» blow it up in the air than lose it.
[laughter]

469
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:19,160
» Literally.
>> Literally.

470
00:47:23,119 --> 00:47:28,680
» Crazy.
>> So, we've approved it.

471
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:28,680
» Thank you.

472
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:36,599
» Okay.
Park request LC Chris.

473
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:45,359
Good evening, council. My name is Dale.
I'm here on behalf of Pope Moravian

474
00:47:43,839 --> 00:47:53,119
Church
and we are asking uh for permission to

475
00:47:49,280 --> 00:48:00,240
use the town square, the gazebo for an
outreach, a free music event. uh we had

476
00:47:56,319 --> 00:48:04,880
initially looked at August 9th and for
this ministry this outreach we're

477
00:48:03,359 --> 00:48:13,680
thinking about something like we've done
in the past which was um once a month

478
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:19,200
the second Sunday of each month and so
um we're looking for permission to use

479
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:25,920
the the town square and the gazebo for
this free music event outreach um for

480
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:32,319
August 9th and I'm not sure whether we
should go ahead and ask for September

481
00:48:29,359 --> 00:48:36,720
and October as well or not.
>> What time

482
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:39,720
» it is on Sundays from 6:00 p.m. to 7:00
p.m.

483
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:48,800
» and what type of music will be
amplified? We have our own PA system

484
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:53,200
which we have used here in the past and
it will be a mix of classic rock and

485
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:59,520
Christian music
and then there will be a short

486
00:48:56,480 --> 00:49:03,280
message of encouragement somewhere in
between.

487
00:49:01,359 --> 00:49:06,800
» You don't have food?
>> No.

488
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:10,559
» No. Well,
okay.

489
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:15,040
» No. No food.
>> No food. Nothing

490
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:18,800
like that. Okay. No.
>> And you're doing that every Sunday in

491
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:23,760
September, October.
>> No, that would be uh originally we were

492
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:30,800
looking at August 9th, so it would be
the second Sunday of the month. And then

493
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:36,400
wondering if it'd be possible
to have it on the second Sunday of

494
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:41,520
September and October as well.
>> That's where I misunderstood it. Sorry.

495
00:49:38,720 --> 00:49:47,599
Sorry. I didn't make that clear.
I don't think it with anything else.

496
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:52,000
» It is available on the calendar.
>> I'll see why not. So,

497
00:49:49,839 --> 00:49:56,839
» I'll make a motion to approve the second
Sunday of August, September, and

498
00:49:53,839 --> 00:49:56,839
October.

499
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:07,119
» I have a second from John.
Any discussion?

500
00:50:03,839 --> 00:50:11,119
» I do have certificate of liability
if you need that. And that would be due

501
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,880
every month.
>> Due every month.

502
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,720
» Yes.
>> Okay.

503
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:17,839
» Prior to the event.
>> Okay.

504
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:23,359
» Not to say that you're not keeping up
with your insurance, but

505
00:50:19,359 --> 00:50:26,559
» I understand. I understand.
>> Yes.

506
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:30,040
» I've been abstain.
>> John.

507
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:30,040
» Yes.

508
00:50:33,359 --> 00:50:36,920
» Thank you so much.

509
00:50:37,839 --> 00:50:41,240
Jake Miller,

510
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:50,880
» Jake Miller, Heritage of Hope. I'm here
to do the uh official request for the

511
00:50:46,559 --> 00:50:56,720
square for Heritage Day. So, 58th annual
Hope Heritage Day, September 25, 26, 27.

512
00:50:54,720 --> 00:51:01,680
Uh theme this year, tip your hat to
Heritage.

513
00:50:58,559 --> 00:51:08,480
Um the park request that I submitted to
Jason is for um September 23rd through

514
00:51:06,079 --> 00:51:15,280
the 27th. That's Wednesday through
Sunday night. Um

515
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:20,720
road closures, nothing's really changed
um other than some things Matt and I

516
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:25,760
talked through last year. Um Thursday
6:00 p.m. we're asking to close interior

517
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:31,119
roads plus middle parking for all three
roads. So that's uh Washington,

518
00:51:28,319 --> 00:51:37,599
Harrison, Jackson. Uh that would be
Thursday 6:00 p.m. and then Friday at 9

519
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:42,079
a.m. Uh requesting to close all of
Harrison in Washington, which would be

520
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:48,640
from
High Harrison from High to What Street

521
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:49,839
is this out here? The I guess the alley
alley.

522
00:51:49,119 --> 00:51:52,160
» The alley.
>> So the alley behind us here

523
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:58,319
» street.
>> Yeah, across the street. And then um

524
00:51:56,400 --> 00:52:04,640
9:00 a.m. all of Washington that would
go to the corner where uh with pizza is.

525
00:52:01,599 --> 00:52:09,280
So um usually back to the alley there so
people can turn down the alley and dive

526
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:14,880
out. So and then at 5:00 p.m. close all
of Jackson Street from

527
00:52:11,839 --> 00:52:20,160
um back in this corner to the road to
the highway. So

528
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:24,880
nothing crazy. Wednesday um at noon
usually when we get the green light set

529
00:52:21,839 --> 00:52:31,680
up. So mowing and stuff is typically
done by then. So no major changes to

530
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:36,079
anything this year. Um any questions you
guys have about logistics there?

531
00:52:34,240 --> 00:52:44,079
» When do you want to cut the parking off
on the west side of the square?

532
00:52:39,359 --> 00:52:48,160
» Um sorry that would fall into um ideally
the 6 p.m.

533
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:50,800
» Okay. Thursday. Yes. You just didn't
wasn't listen.

534
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:53,599
» I did not. I apologize. We usually do
that 6 p.m. But currently

535
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:56,319
» Yeah.
>> There's usually a lot of people in and

536
00:52:55,119 --> 00:53:02,160
out right there.
>> Yeah. Um and then I guess I also forgot

537
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:07,920
to list this back lot too. Uh we would
like to have it same usage as we've had.

538
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:12,079
Yeah. Behind town hall for uh the big uh
vertical landscape machine.

539
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:15,200
» Same amount of space.
>> Yeah.

540
00:53:13,119 --> 00:53:18,000
» Yeah. Yeah. You're good on parking north
side.

541
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:24,160
I'll make a motion to approve. I'll
second to approve. I have a second.

542
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:28,880
» Yep.
>> I got a second.

543
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:30,400
» Any discussion?
>> Hearing none. Herb.

544
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:31,520
» Yes.
>> Ed.

545
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:36,800
» Yep.
>> Yes.

546
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:42,960
» I one one quick um add-on item that's
more of a food for thought looking at um

547
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:47,839
pricing and logistics for Heritage Days.
Uh the town very graciously gives edit

548
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:54,720
funds every year has ever since I have
known um to help offset entertainment

549
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:59,280
costs. Um logistical costs have raised
up probably 75 to 100% the last 5 years

550
00:53:57,280 --> 00:54:04,720
postco you guys are very aware of all
that. Um entertainment costs I went back

551
00:54:02,319 --> 00:54:08,000
and and I have all this information. Um
if you guys ever any of you want to sit

552
00:54:06,559 --> 00:54:11,440
down individually with me and go through
some of the stuff I have uh from the

553
00:54:09,599 --> 00:54:17,359
last several years. entertainment costs
are exceeding $30,000 a year this at

554
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:22,960
this point. So, um we have supplemental
ways. We do advertising obviously um in

555
00:54:20,240 --> 00:54:27,839
our programs and through social media.
We have paid advertisers that help. We

556
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:32,400
also charge for nonprofits uh for their
food booths. We charge for the um the

557
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:38,880
other art arts and antiques crafts
vendors that are around trying not to

558
00:54:35,599 --> 00:54:42,079
price out uh especially nonprofits. um
the money that generates around the

559
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:44,880
square it's about it's over hundred
grand a year that generates through

560
00:54:43,359 --> 00:54:49,200
those nonprofits as far as cash that
they raise. So not trying to to gouge

561
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:53,520
them. So we've not raised their prices.
We have um slowly over the last few

562
00:54:51,599 --> 00:54:59,280
years raised the prices on the other
vendors so to try to provide more income

563
00:54:57,119 --> 00:55:03,119
there. Uh we're also hesitant to raise
the advertising costs too just due to

564
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:08,880
most of our advertisers are local
businesses. Um and so we're trying not

565
00:55:06,319 --> 00:55:12,160
to to lose a lot of that support. So, um
I know the edit process is a completely

566
00:55:11,119 --> 00:55:16,640
different thing than what it used to be
where there's no edit board to go to. Um

567
00:55:14,720 --> 00:55:20,960
I I would love to come and say, "Hey,
we'd like to to be able to get 30,000 to

568
00:55:19,599 --> 00:55:26,079
help offset our cost because we're
slowly dipping into our reserves." Um

569
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:29,440
but I know that might not be feasible in
a lot of situations. So, I'm asking

570
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:33,839
» How much is your reserve?
>> We do have an edit.

571
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:36,800
» Do we is that But my the process for
heritage day is automatically approved.

572
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:39,440
It's been approved by council. So I
don't go before the edit board to

573
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:42,800
request money.
>> So it's a 20,000 automatic every year.

574
00:55:41,599 --> 00:55:46,319
» We still have the edit committee.
>> Well, I I know that's I'm just saying

575
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:50,640
I've not had to go in front of the
committee to request that was I believe

576
00:55:48,079 --> 00:55:54,400
the the amount was set by the council is
the way I understood it.

577
00:55:52,079 --> 00:55:58,480
» So how much do you receive now?
>> 20,000.

578
00:55:55,680 --> 00:56:03,440
» Yeah. 20,000. So
So to answer your question, our reserve

579
00:56:00,240 --> 00:56:08,480
is a little over 20,000. It was closer
to 50,000.

580
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:12,640
the year of 2020, we did not have
heritage days. There was still money

581
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:16,880
coming in that year from advertisers. We
carried a lot of it over. Um, so we're

582
00:56:15,119 --> 00:56:20,720
working at about a five to $6,000
deficit every year. So, like I said, I I

583
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:24,319
I don't want to sit here and waste
everyone else's time. We'll be

584
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:27,119
respectful of that. But I do have um
budget for the last three years. If you

585
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:30,640
guys want to look at that on an
individual basis, feel free to to reach

586
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:33,920
out to me. I can I can walk through that
with you. But

587
00:56:32,559 --> 00:56:37,200
» would you like to bring it through the
edit committee? That that's that's my

588
00:56:35,599 --> 00:56:40,799
question. Do I need to formally come to
edit to request that? Do I need to

589
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:44,079
request the amount? Okay.
>> Yes.

590
00:56:41,359 --> 00:56:46,400
» So, okay. I guess I'll get with Jason
and figure out when those meetings are.

591
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:48,480
» Yes.
>> So, okay.

592
00:56:47,119 --> 00:56:52,480
» We'll just have to make a formal
request. They don't they don't meet

593
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:55,599
unless we have a request.
>> Okay. Yeah. I just know that it's been

594
00:56:54,240 --> 00:56:59,200
an automatic, so we've not had to
formally request it here. So, perfect.

595
00:56:57,839 --> 00:57:04,559
Awesome. Any other questions for me?
>> Thank you, Jake.

596
00:56:59,920 --> 00:57:12,079
» Yes, sir. um the uh $20,000 that funds
uh uh gives to Heritage Days every year,

597
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:20,559
what percentage of that is your budget?
>> Um so estimated budget this year 62,000

598
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:27,200
and some change actual spent budget in
2025 was 58,580.

599
00:57:24,079 --> 00:57:34,599
24 was 64,000
23 was 54,000. So say that that 20,000

600
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:34,599
around 40% [clears throat] of your

601
00:57:35,119 --> 00:57:37,280
» Yeah.
>> Give or take.

602
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:40,559
» Yeah. Give or take. I mean the years
have fluctuated too.

603
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:45,440
» That's important for me to know.
>> Yeah. 20 20 and 60. I mean you're

604
00:57:42,319 --> 00:57:49,760
looking at 33% there. So for the for the
estimate this year we're hoping to be

605
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:52,000
under that. So by by hopefully four or
5,000. But

606
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:54,480
» who's your entertainment going to be
this year?

607
00:57:53,119 --> 00:58:02,839
» You would ask me. I didn't write it
down. Um,

608
00:57:57,599 --> 00:58:02,839
Eric Hamlin, band, Banister family.

609
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:15,359
Uh, we've got, um, our main is Wild Bill
and the Bruisers. So, we've got, um,

610
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:20,480
Friday is classic rock, Saturday is
country theme, Sunday is bluegrass. So,

611
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:23,520
and then obviously the, um, gospel sing
at the high school. And I haven't heard

612
00:58:22,079 --> 00:58:28,720
who they're bringing in this year for
that yet. So

613
00:58:27,119 --> 00:58:31,520
» Jason, if you want to get with me and
sit down and go through some of the

614
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:34,640
stuff you're able to share. I I have a
lot of it. I reconcile quite a bit of it

615
00:58:33,119 --> 00:58:37,920
today. So be more than happy to share
that.

616
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:43,040
» Saturday is that country and western
music or just [snorts] country.

617
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:47,119
» I'm I'm not I'm not the musical
entertainment guy. So it it could be

618
00:58:45,599 --> 00:58:49,359
country or western or both and I
wouldn't know the difference, bro. So

619
00:58:49,119 --> 00:58:52,079
yeah.
>> Thank you. [laughter]

620
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:55,359
» Yeah. I'm more of a logistical person.
So awesome. All right. Anything else?

621
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:57,680
» It was a joke.
>> Yeah.

622
00:58:56,480 --> 00:59:03,640
» Not everybody got it.
>> You got me there. So that went way over

623
00:58:59,599 --> 00:59:03,640
my head. So [laughter] all right.

624
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:08,359
» Thank you guys.
>> Thank you.

625
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:21,480
» No, let's let's not encourage it.

626
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:31,720
Hey, I like my jokes sometimes.
>> Sometimes.

627
00:59:28,079 --> 00:59:31,720
» That's one of them.

628
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:41,119
» Good evening again, council. Um, I want
to talk about Thunder on the Square this

629
00:59:38,319 --> 00:59:47,520
year. Um, spoke with Matt Lee on the
phone

630
00:59:42,799 --> 00:59:53,440
oh, couple weeks ago now. And uh
uh I had to go get my phone to remember

631
00:59:50,480 --> 01:00:00,079
the date. Um so I apologize about
leaving, but um Matt has requested to

632
00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:08,240
move Thunder on the Square to Saturday,
September 12th from 4 to 7 p.m.

633
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:13,520
Um
>> what was the original date?

634
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:17,200
» Diane, do you know the original date? I
is

635
01:00:13,839 --> 01:00:23,280
» I think it was in June originally.
>> I think it was July 18th, but I don't

636
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:28,280
know. I don't know where we are. I
apologize. I can't give you a specific

637
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:28,280
date.

638
01:00:33,119 --> 01:00:39,359
» Not that it's a deal breaker. I was just
asking.

639
01:00:36,319 --> 01:00:43,559
» Off the top of your head,
>> that was back in May.

640
01:00:44,079 --> 01:00:49,359
That was like that was like my first
meeting. I remember so it would have

641
01:00:47,599 --> 01:00:54,079
been May. May was my first meeting.
That's when I was talking.

642
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:56,160
» Well, I think he was doing
>> discuss.

643
01:00:54,720 --> 01:01:00,319
» Let's just move on. Um
>> yeah, it's not that big of a deal.

644
01:00:57,839 --> 01:01:08,640
» Right. So, uh Thunder Island Square
wants to be moved to September 12th from

645
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:12,960
4 to 7. He's uh uh has
um Nightal country band playing of

646
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:19,680
course and then he's trying to bring in
a uh uh country musician

647
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:24,559
and possibly western musician country
and western musician um by the name of

648
01:01:22,079 --> 01:01:31,040
Wade Hayes who's a fairly big name in
the country music industry and uh um

649
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:37,839
that's kind of the reason why he would
like to um delay this event and plus I

650
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:46,000
think it's just going to be a cooler uh
weatherwise for the leather cloud

651
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:53,040
motorcyclists to be here on town square.
No booze um no changes that have already

652
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:58,319
been approved um
for Thunder on the square. Just the date

653
01:01:55,520 --> 01:02:01,200
is all he wants to change.
>> I'm looking for

654
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:05,200
» He's got liability insurance.
>> He does. Yes.

655
01:02:03,599 --> 01:02:09,599
Yeah, I'll make a motion to approve the
date. I have a motion. Do I have a

656
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:13,200
second?
>> I'll second it.

657
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:17,280
» I have a second. Do I have any
discussion?

658
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:20,480
Hearing none.
>> Yep.

659
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:23,480
» Yep.
>> 4.

660
01:02:25,839 --> 01:02:34,480
» Thank you. Um, next is assistant utility
superintendent

661
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:39,760
and uh wanted to have a quick
conversation about the assistant uh

662
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:49,359
utility superintendent who is David
Klouse and uh uh David since he retired

663
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:55,040
um was not allocated those 4% increase
in salaries. It was a flat $50 an hour.

664
01:02:53,359 --> 01:03:02,319
Um
he uh has been working this summer out

665
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:11,599
in the heat and uh he's getting tired.
Um, and he uh asked about getting that

666
01:03:07,359 --> 01:03:19,359
percentage increase and I opted to uh
have a conversation with him to just

667
01:03:15,039 --> 01:03:24,559
move it to $60 per hour with a 2hour
minimum

668
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:32,160
um for the rest of David's assistant
utility career which should be only um a

669
01:03:28,799 --> 01:03:36,880
couple more years. And other than doing
the locates recently, um, you know,

670
01:03:34,559 --> 01:03:41,599
David hasn't been utilized a whole lot.
So, I really don't see it as being a

671
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:49,520
huge increase,
um, considering the amount of hours that

672
01:03:44,079 --> 01:03:56,000
he's been that he normally works.
And we need David to maintain his water

673
01:03:52,000 --> 01:04:04,640
and sewer license. and uh he's a a good
help to um Jason Mack and uh he's uh

674
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:10,240
available pretty much whenever Jason
calls him they they work out a

675
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:14,799
situation. Is that correct Jason? Um so
Jason and David work really well

676
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:19,920
together when Jason needs it.
>> Motion to approve.

677
01:04:16,319 --> 01:04:23,200
» So this is actually changed by ordinance
ordinance.

678
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:28,640
» Change the ordinance. How to do that?
We'd have to suspend the rules and then

679
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:33,960
vote on it this evening. And uh
>> right away

680
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:33,960
» Jeff, is that correct?

681
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:44,880
» Okay.
>> And this ordinance is uh uh number

682
01:04:42,799 --> 01:04:49,039
2026-01.
>> So you would be proposing to go from 50

683
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:55,760
to 60.
>> Yes. as opposed to the 4%

684
01:04:54,799 --> 01:05:02,039
increase.
>> Yes.

685
01:04:56,400 --> 01:05:02,039
» So 50 to 60 is actually a 20% increase.

686
01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:15,119
» Yes. But rather in in lie of having to
change that every year. Um, is he a week

687
01:05:13,599 --> 01:05:21,920
average?
>> Um,

688
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:27,200
maybe maybe one or two a week. I bet
he's been here maybe five hours a month

689
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:30,640
since he retired.
>> So, we're not talking about a

690
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:35,680
significant amount of money compared to
that many hours.

691
01:05:33,039 --> 01:05:42,480
So, I'll make a motion to suspend the
ordinance uh the previous ordinance for

692
01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:46,599
the assistant superintendent
salary board.

693
01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:51,160
» Yeah, that too.

694
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:56,119
» Keep typing.

695
01:06:01,599 --> 01:06:05,880
Now we have to have a motion, right?

696
01:06:12,799 --> 01:06:18,640
» Now we have to vote on
>> on the motion.

697
01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:22,319
» On the motion.
>> Yep.

698
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:28,079
» Yep.
>> 4 Z.

699
01:06:25,039 --> 01:06:35,520
And now we'll make the motion to change
it to a $60 per hour

700
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:40,319
rate.
>> I'll second it.

701
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:42,160
» I have a sec. Do we have a second? First
and second.

702
01:06:41,599 --> 01:06:47,520
» Yep.
>> Okay. Any discussion?

703
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:51,280
Hearing none.
>> Yep.

704
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:55,319
» Yep. Gone.
>> Yeah. Boy.

705
01:06:55,359 --> 01:06:59,720
makes me wish I learned how to read.

706
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:08,559
» Now,
are we are we on track?

707
01:07:06,559 --> 01:07:12,000
» Yeah, you approved it, right?
>> Yeah, we're good.

708
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:18,000
» Okay.
>> Um, so the $60 an hour has been approved

709
01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:23,039
and we're good. Thank you, council.
>> And we didn't vote to do retro,

710
01:07:20,319 --> 01:07:26,720
» right? No, no, no. It was just effective
today.

711
01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:33,039
And then Homer, if you would indulge me,
I'd like to introduce uh Danielle Tedar

712
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:38,240
and Elizabeth James. They are both here
representing the Bartholomew County

713
01:07:34,799 --> 01:07:45,039
Humane Society. And uh they just want to
introduce themselves and have a quick

714
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:50,720
discussion uh about animals and what
they do and uh how how they do things.

715
01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:52,880
Okay, thank you.
>> Thanks.

716
01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:57,119
» Thanks, Jason.
>> Good evening, council members. I'm

717
01:07:54,240 --> 01:08:00,960
Elizabeth James. Daniel Alire, our exact
director is with us tonight. We don't

718
01:07:58,559 --> 01:08:06,400
have an ask of you, so we should be your
favorite attendee of this evening. Um,

719
01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:10,480
we've been working with Jason over the
past few months to just better

720
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:15,200
understand what relations can be had
that aren't currently there. So, we've

721
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:20,480
we're in our 60th year of serving
Bartholomew County um as the Bartholomew

722
01:08:17,839 --> 01:08:24,000
County humane society, which is not to
be confused with the city animal

723
01:08:22,319 --> 01:08:28,640
shelter. So, we serve a very different
jurisdiction and I would imagine we've

724
01:08:26,319 --> 01:08:35,359
had some relations with the town of Hope
since 1966, our inception. Um Jason,

725
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:39,679
kudos to him. Thank you for being
willing to have a conversation with us

726
01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:45,759
so I'm better understanding where
animals are coming from the town of Hope

727
01:08:41,839 --> 01:08:51,440
in that as well. Yes, thank you. Um and
how we can better assist you all in

728
01:08:49,440 --> 01:08:56,640
getting animals to us to ultimately get
them fixed. So, one piece that I think

729
01:08:54,719 --> 01:09:02,560
you all should be aware of that we're
pretty uh aggressive on is the spay and

730
01:08:59,199 --> 01:09:07,920
neuter. So Danielle spearheaded our
launch of Spaner in-house clinic last

731
01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:11,520
June and to date we have altered how
many how many animals?

732
01:09:10,480 --> 01:09:13,040
» Over 800
>> year to date

733
01:09:12,319 --> 01:09:16,640
» year to date.
>> Yeah00

734
01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:22,480
» year to date a little over 800 and then
we started last June and ended the year

735
01:09:19,359 --> 01:09:27,600
a little over 500 if I recall. So we're
very passionate about root cause and the

736
01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:32,719
town does not bring us a lot of animals.
However, um, one animal can multiply

737
01:09:30,239 --> 01:09:36,719
very quickly. So, we're interested in
better partnering with you all and and

738
01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:39,920
helping to better serve your your
residents.

739
01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:44,000
I'd invite you all to come out and see
our facility if you've ever been.

740
01:09:41,839 --> 01:09:50,799
» Where is your facility?
>> We are, if you're exiting Columbus off 7

741
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:53,279
on the east side, go down the road by
Phoenix Guns, if you know where I'm

742
01:09:52,480 --> 01:09:55,600
talking about.
>> Yeah. Yeah.

743
01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:59,120
» And keep taking that down and
>> like you're going towards Merles, right?

744
01:09:57,120 --> 01:10:03,679
Yes, sir. And you take that down and
we're going to be right off the right

745
01:10:01,440 --> 01:10:08,719
back by the Duke Power Plant. You can
see us. We're kind of hidden back there.

746
01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:12,800
Um we'd invite you out, see a clinic.
It's it's really quite impressive what

747
01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:16,159
Danielle and her team are doing um to
get at the root cause.

748
01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:19,440
» How many animals do you normally service
at a time?

749
01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:24,640
» At a time in
>> I mean, how many do you have out there?

750
01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:29,520
» Sure. So, annually we typically take in
dogs over 900. That number is pretty

751
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:38,040
consistent. [clears throat] Um, at one
time our facility is fit to outfit 35

752
01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:38,040
dogs. And how many cats?

753
01:10:38,553 --> 01:10:43,400
[snorts]
>> I want to say

754
01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:55,199
» right around 60 65. That's in house.
>> Do you ever euthanize?

755
01:10:50,400 --> 01:11:00,080
» We do. And the reason we do is only for
um health or behavioral. We do not

756
01:10:57,920 --> 01:11:05,679
euthanize for space. That's a very
important distinction.

757
01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:09,600
» That allows us to retain our no kill uh
national status which we have retained

758
01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:12,480
for the past 5 years.
>> Yeah. Great.

759
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:17,860
» You foster them out.
>> Yes sir. Yeah. Pretty large robust

760
01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:22,239
foster base. We do work from the
[clears throat] city of Columbus

761
01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:27,040
regularly. I support them as well. But
Matt is great to work with. He's

762
01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:32,480
excellent to our staff and we look
forward to future relations.

763
01:11:30,719 --> 01:11:35,600
» How do you how do you go about fostering
your dogs and cats?

764
01:11:34,159 --> 01:11:39,440
» Would you like to answer that?
>> Sure. So,

765
01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:44,719
» stand up, please. [laughter]
>> Hello.

766
01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:48,800
Uh we have a foster application just
checking some boxes and making sure that

767
01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:52,960
we you know who's going to be having our
animals and then after that you come in

768
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:58,719
and you kind of tell us what you're
looking for. If it's something that fits

769
01:11:56,400 --> 01:12:03,520
your household personality or energy
wise or you just walk around and you

770
01:12:01,440 --> 01:12:09,199
find somebody that you like.
>> Uh Foster's completely free. We provide

771
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:15,760
all of the supplies, food,
toys, all of that and

772
01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:19,840
you just kind of see if it's a good fit.
If not, then we will take them back and

773
01:12:18,239 --> 01:12:24,000
try again.
>> We do have a try it before you buy it

774
01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:27,120
option. Um,
>> that term was new to us, but we like it.

775
01:12:26,630 --> 01:12:32,640
[laughter]
>> So, an FTA option, foster to adopt,

776
01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:37,840
that's newer,
>> so it's worked out well.

777
01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:42,400
» What is the cost of adoption?
Currently we have a discounted adoption

778
01:12:40,400 --> 01:12:48,880
because of an adoption event but
normally $80 for a cat and 120 for a dog

779
01:12:46,719 --> 01:12:54,480
and within that I think it's important
to include that that is the altering of

780
01:12:51,679 --> 01:12:58,239
the animal so surgical procedures to get
it vetted and everything

781
01:12:56,640 --> 01:13:03,600
» include shots also.
>> Yes sir.

782
01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:07,679
How many dogs do you want?
>> Oh, I thought you were

783
01:13:06,480 --> 01:13:12,640
» That's what I just asked him. How many
dogs do you want?

784
01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:15,640
» Cat. I might take a cat, but I'm not
taking

785
01:13:15,679 --> 01:13:21,120
» So, come out and see us. We just want to
introduce ourselves. We're We're trying

786
01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:24,000
to be more instrumental instrumental in
fostering better relationships

787
01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:26,320
throughout the county and we we
appreciate you all.

788
01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:30,480
» Awesome. Thank you very much.
>> Thank you guys. Humane Society also has

789
01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:36,080
local
Daniel Tedar.

790
01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:40,920
The Tedar family has been local for a
very very long time.

791
01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:40,920
» Yep.

792
01:13:41,301 --> 01:13:43,321
[laughter]

793
01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:49,239
» Thank you.
>> Thank you.

794
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:49,239
» Thank you.

795
01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:56,080
» Okay.
>> Next item.

796
01:13:55,120 --> 01:14:00,560
» Fruits of hope.
>> Your name's on here an awful lot. It

797
01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:03,719
sure is.
>> I couldn't

798
01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:11,000
out there.

799
01:14:11,431 --> 01:14:13,451
[cough]

800
01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:26,320
Um,
so

801
01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:35,360
Main Street, uh, in the past was, uh,
uh, a affiliated Indiana Main Street

802
01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:38,960
associate, um, or Indiana Main Street.
And uh over the course of the last

803
01:14:37,440 --> 01:14:47,199
couple years, they lost that
accreditation and then uh decided to try

804
01:14:42,719 --> 01:14:55,440
for ODAN, which is a Oakra downtown
affiliated network.

805
01:14:49,600 --> 01:15:02,400
And uh as of January 1st, they lost all
accreditations with OKR for one reason

806
01:14:58,719 --> 01:15:11,120
or another. Um, as you know, Main Street
and Odan Oprah is a big part of this

807
01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:17,360
community and Main Street has been in
the past has been a big part of this

808
01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:25,520
community. So, uh, I took it upon myself
along with, uh, Jamie Stainbrook and

809
01:15:20,239 --> 01:15:32,719
Victoria to start working on a 501c3,
um, and, uh, begin a new, uh,

810
01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:41,600
organization called the Roots of Hope,
which will be a Oprah ODAN uh, Oprah

811
01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:48,320
downtown affiliated network,
um, which is, uh essentially

812
01:15:45,679 --> 01:15:56,000
uh Indiana accredited Main Street
without all of the reporting. Um

813
01:15:52,640 --> 01:16:00,960
the uh mission statement that we have is
uh to preserve Hope's heritage,

814
01:15:58,560 --> 01:16:06,640
strengthen its economy, and inspire a
connected community dedicated to

815
01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:11,679
building a vibrant future. Um vision
statement is a thriving hope where

816
01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:17,120
history, community, and opportunity grow
together.

817
01:16:13,199 --> 01:16:22,080
Um our our uh the roots of hope motto is
rooted in the past growing our future.

818
01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:29,120
Um
the uh main reason why we want to uh

819
01:16:26,320 --> 01:16:38,400
start up this organization and tonight
I'm requesting your participation and

820
01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:44,159
support of this new uh 501c3.
Um, first off, we want to preserve the

821
01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:48,320
history of hope. Second off, uh, we want
to work on economic development for

822
01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:54,000
future generations.
Um, increase visitation to the community

823
01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:59,520
through engaging events and activities.
Uh, encourage economic investment that

824
01:16:56,880 --> 01:17:05,920
preserves the community's heritage while
creating opportunities for the future.

825
01:17:02,320 --> 01:17:12,560
Um, so tonight I'm asking uh for the
council to approve to uh support this

826
01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:17,920
new organization and then Omar, if you
would be so kind as to sign a letter um

827
01:17:16,159 --> 01:17:26,640
showing your support that I could send
to Okra, we can move on through this uh

828
01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:36,080
portion and attain the 501c3
and the then uh next month will be okra.

829
01:17:31,679 --> 01:17:41,840
will be down here to discuss um this
organization and its impact that it will

830
01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:46,600
have on the community as well as their
support of this community.

831
01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:57,840
» I'm recommending we approve this.
>> I'll second it.

832
01:17:54,000 --> 01:18:00,840
» Well, I didn't Yeah, I don't. Was that a
motion?

833
01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:06,880
Huh?
>> You want to turn it into

834
01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:13,040
» Well, I've just recommended we approve
it. I Yeah.

835
01:18:10,239 --> 01:18:22,600
» Hey, this for I think it's a good thing.
>> I mean, this is going to hopefully uh

836
01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:22,600
help jumpstart um

837
01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:31,760
Main Street or what used to be Main
Street. Um you know, started off really

838
01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:38,320
good. um kind of
u

839
01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:42,080
fizzled out over the few years. Um so I
think the group that's coming in is

840
01:18:40,239 --> 01:18:47,440
going to
do a lot of good things and

841
01:18:44,960 --> 01:18:50,560
mainstream interest stop having
direction.

842
01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:58,159
Yes,
>> this or this organization um

843
01:18:54,800 --> 01:19:03,600
gives uh uh
an opportunity to the hope to hope

844
01:19:00,560 --> 01:19:09,679
that's unique because we can obtain
grants and go for grants through the

845
01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:13,040
private sector and not through a public
uh entity like a government.

846
01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:18,960
» Yeah.
>> So that's why it's important for me to

847
01:19:15,199 --> 01:19:22,400
have uh an okra affiliated network.
Okay. Well, we've got a second. Do we

848
01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:26,880
have a motion?
>> That's what you made the motion.

849
01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:28,080
» Cleared up. Somebody
>> Yeah.

850
01:19:27,360 --> 01:19:31,120
» made a motion.
>> Somebody make a motion.

851
01:19:29,679 --> 01:19:34,520
» I'll make a motion.
>> Made a motion.

852
01:19:38,239 --> 01:19:47,360
» John, you want a second?
>> Uh, I can't.

853
01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:53,880
» Yeah, you got involved. I have
involvement with the

854
01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:53,880
» so I have to abstain

855
01:19:56,560 --> 01:20:04,560
» John seconded
I have a a motion and a proper second.

856
01:20:02,560 --> 01:20:06,560
So you have to abstain.
>> Yes sir.

857
01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:10,480
» Yep. I
>> Yes.

858
01:20:08,320 --> 01:20:14,040
Three three
and one stayain.

859
01:20:14,239 --> 01:20:20,480
Okay.
>> Thank you, council. I appreciate it.

860
01:20:18,239 --> 01:20:26,000
» Okay.
Now, before we open the meeting up to

861
01:20:24,239 --> 01:20:30,320
public discussion, I have a question
about

862
01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:33,480
where we at with our owner occupied
three cabs.

863
01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:40,400
Has any work been
>> um has any work been started?

864
01:20:37,920 --> 01:20:44,400
» Not that I'm aware of yet. I think
they're still going through the funding

865
01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:51,280
process.
um with [clears throat] getting

866
01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:55,280
» all of those funds that we approved at
the last council meeting where we opened

867
01:20:53,360 --> 01:20:59,600
up the bids. I think they're still
finalizing all of those bid requests and

868
01:20:57,760 --> 01:21:03,679
double check.
But it should start here fairly soon, I

869
01:21:02,719 --> 01:21:05,840
would think.
>> Okay.

870
01:21:04,239 --> 01:21:12,080
» Sorry, I don't have much of an update.
>> Well, and I it was just something I was

871
01:21:08,719 --> 01:21:18,320
thinking about. I wanted to
uh get some insight on it.

872
01:21:14,880 --> 01:21:26,400
» All right. Um before we I have one thing
I want to discuss or mention. Um since

873
01:21:22,719 --> 01:21:31,280
we have updated the town website, we do
not have after hours the emergency

874
01:21:29,040 --> 01:21:36,719
contact on there for the utility
department and it we need to have that

875
01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:42,000
added. um
because in the years past we've had that

876
01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:46,480
um and Matt correct me if I'm wrong. It
used to

877
01:21:43,920 --> 01:21:54,480
um be tied in with the utility office
but also came through dispatch here. So

878
01:21:50,880 --> 01:22:01,840
um I know we have on call personnel um
that rotate but we need to have um that

879
01:21:58,480 --> 01:22:07,760
number posted on our website. um would
especially been helpful with the uh

880
01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:12,800
utility work that's been going on. We've
had a few uh issues arise that haven't

881
01:22:10,719 --> 01:22:18,199
been during normal business hours. So,
>> yes,

882
01:22:13,679 --> 01:22:18,199
» um that needs to be added.

883
01:22:18,639 --> 01:22:27,679
Should the town uh supply the utility
department a cell phone with a

884
01:22:24,480 --> 01:22:37,719
particular number so whoever's on call
can carry that cell phone with them?

885
01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:37,719
If we don't already then Yes.

886
01:22:38,080 --> 01:22:45,840
» I'll look into that.
>> Yeah. Because uh what who how did how

887
01:22:42,639 --> 01:22:51,120
was the uh emergency contact done
before? It goes to somebody would call

888
01:22:48,880 --> 01:22:56,000
the number. It goes to the utility
office

889
01:22:53,199 --> 01:23:00,320
» and then to dispatch and then they have
the call.

890
01:22:58,400 --> 01:23:05,280
» We do, but we don't have dispatching
after 4 p.m. sometime.

891
01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:09,760
I can take one of the utility department
numbers and have it transfer to the on

892
01:23:07,520 --> 01:23:15,440
call person each week.
It's not necessarily that I have to buy

893
01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:19,280
a cell phone. I can have them call a
certain number at the utility department

894
01:23:17,440 --> 01:23:22,960
and have it transfer to whoever's on
call their cell phone.

895
01:23:21,520 --> 01:23:27,600
» We can do that
>> even better. But we [snorts] also just

896
01:23:25,679 --> 01:23:34,239
need to have that number posted on the
website so that people can access it

897
01:23:31,120 --> 01:23:38,719
or the utility office website, whatever
the number is going to be

898
01:23:37,120 --> 01:23:43,600
if it's going to be a different line
other than.

899
01:23:41,199 --> 01:23:48,679
But we also just need to make sure it's
obviously after hours contact.

900
01:23:49,040 --> 01:23:54,800
Right now, there's nothing that says on
the website if you have an after hours

901
01:23:53,360 --> 01:24:02,800
emergency, here's the number you
contact. It just gives the number for

902
01:23:58,560 --> 01:24:05,920
uh the utility office. That's it. So,
>> it's kind of kind of vague.

903
01:24:04,880 --> 01:24:10,840
» We'll work on that.
>> Yeah,

904
01:24:06,800 --> 01:24:10,840
» I'll let you know next month.

905
01:24:14,719 --> 01:24:23,280
» All right. I have one thing I want to
add to then I'll try to keep quiet. I

906
01:24:19,440 --> 01:24:29,760
think uh our new uh seller who's doing
the work on taking care of stuff that

907
01:24:26,800 --> 01:24:35,360
ain't going right in town building
>> building and zoning.

908
01:24:32,080 --> 01:24:38,800
» Austin is doing a great job. I think I I
really like this report Austin.

909
01:24:38,239 --> 01:24:41,840
» Thank you.
>> Keep up the work. Good work.

910
01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:46,960
» I appreciate it.
>> You're okay.

911
01:24:44,239 --> 01:24:50,679
who gave you. It's fine. I don't trust
you as long as anyone else.

912
01:24:53,040 --> 01:25:00,920
» Anything else? Good.
>> All right. Open to public comments.

913
01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:11,760
» I got one from the podium and you're
next.

914
01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:14,239
» Yeah. Hear 102 Main Street. I have
questions.

915
01:25:12,719 --> 01:25:19,440
» Okay.
Did when you went to it's called Main

916
01:25:16,960 --> 01:25:21,840
Street Fiber.
>> Mainstream.

917
01:25:20,639 --> 01:25:25,840
» Mainstream fiber.
>> Mhm.

918
01:25:22,639 --> 01:25:30,280
» Did they present you with a schematic
diagram where everything was going?

919
01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:38,159
» I don't know if they did they present
with a schematic diagram where

920
01:25:36,159 --> 01:25:41,440
everything was going. Yeah. I was trying
to remember how

921
01:25:39,520 --> 01:25:45,760
» anybody look at it.
>> Yes.

922
01:25:43,360 --> 01:25:50,400
Okay, my next question, and I'm going to
be kind of a smarty here. Where do I

923
01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:54,480
send
the easement that I'm going to draw up

924
01:25:52,560 --> 01:25:57,639
for what they put in the middle of my
front yard?

925
01:25:57,840 --> 01:26:02,480
» What is it again?
>> They put one of those things in the

926
01:26:00,719 --> 01:26:06,480
middle of my front yard.
>> Is it outside of

927
01:26:03,760 --> 01:26:11,920
» It's outside of any easement. Way
outside. So that's what we need to look

928
01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:15,440
at that and see.
Does it have to be within the 15t

929
01:26:13,920 --> 01:26:22,239
easement?
>> Uh there's 80 ft of easement um on at

930
01:26:20,080 --> 01:26:26,400
102 main.
>> Oh, because it's on the highway.

931
01:26:24,159 --> 01:26:31,040
» It's on the highway.
>> Yeah, but they put they put it right in

932
01:26:28,239 --> 01:26:35,480
the middle of the yard.
They could have put it close to a

933
01:26:32,480 --> 01:26:35,480
driveway.

934
01:26:37,600 --> 01:26:45,920
Um, I can talk with the fiber
representatives and see okay why it's

935
01:26:43,199 --> 01:26:50,639
there.
>> Get it moved. I wasn't aware that they

936
01:26:47,840 --> 01:26:57,600
put it right in front of his yard. I'm
not sure that it's in the east.

937
01:26:53,920 --> 01:27:00,960
I haven't actually looked, but I do know
that there's

938
01:26:59,679 --> 01:27:04,800
right there on
>> I'm right on Main Street every day.

939
01:27:03,280 --> 01:27:10,239
Stop. take a look.
>> Okay, first thing let's do let's just

940
01:27:06,719 --> 01:27:14,800
make sure it's either within or without
and then we'll

941
01:27:12,320 --> 01:27:20,520
discuss with them why what what was
their reasoning of placement,

942
01:27:16,719 --> 01:27:20,520
» right? I mean I

943
01:27:20,960 --> 01:27:27,280
yeah I mean one would think that yes you
would would have put it probably in a

944
01:27:25,280 --> 01:27:34,320
little more
um closer to a driveway out of but again

945
01:27:32,560 --> 01:27:41,920
I don't know why they put it where they
did. So there's a specific reason um

946
01:27:38,880 --> 01:27:48,800
and if it can be moved let's see if it
can be adjusted. Um, [snorts]

947
01:27:45,199 --> 01:27:55,040
» we've had a lot of uh, well, I shouldn't
say a lot, but we've had several

948
01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:59,840
customers um, request their boxes be the
boxes that are along the side of the

949
01:27:57,040 --> 01:28:04,080
road. Um, some of them aren't level or
they're a little higher than they should

950
01:28:01,440 --> 01:28:10,560
be. And the fiber company's been great
about leveling them, uh, putting dirt

951
01:28:07,040 --> 01:28:14,719
around and seating around them.
So, it shouldn't be really much of an

952
01:28:13,440 --> 01:28:17,440
issue.
>> Yeah. I mean, we just need to see.

953
01:28:17,040 --> 01:28:21,199
» Yeah.
>> Double check.

954
01:28:19,120 --> 01:28:25,360
» It's way up in the churchyard, too,
>> because obviously they need to stay

955
01:28:22,880 --> 01:28:27,920
within the easement. If it's outside of
it, they're going to need to fix it.

956
01:28:27,120 --> 01:28:32,880
» Yeah.
>> I mean, that's

957
01:28:30,560 --> 01:28:37,120
plain and simple. The other question
I've got that needs to be answered,

958
01:28:35,440 --> 01:28:42,960
these lids and things that they're
putting they're putting these boxes in,

959
01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:50,239
what happens when a truck triacle truck
runs over those or our dumpster man

960
01:28:48,639 --> 01:28:56,800
runs over those?
>> Anything that's near a road is has a

961
01:28:52,800 --> 01:29:04,960
rating for that particular weight. Um
there's they're rated uh several of them

962
01:29:00,639 --> 01:29:11,120
are 3,000 pounds, others are 10,000
pounds. Just depends on which box you're

963
01:29:08,080 --> 01:29:15,360
talking about. And I'm happy to give you
that list if you'd like to look through

964
01:29:12,880 --> 01:29:23,199
it of which boxes are where and what
their weight rating weight rating is.

965
01:29:19,520 --> 01:29:28,239
» Well, I can see those pops being broke
through.

966
01:29:25,840 --> 01:29:32,080
I mean, shouldn't be if it's a 10,000lb
range.

967
01:29:28,800 --> 01:29:36,239
» 10,000 ought to hold it. No problem. Cuz
that's just one axle,

968
01:29:34,159 --> 01:29:41,719
» right?
>> Okay.

969
01:29:38,400 --> 01:29:41,719
You're next.

970
01:29:43,920 --> 01:29:47,360
» This is my first time here, so this is
pretty interesting.

971
01:29:46,639 --> 01:29:54,480
» Your name and
>> Margie McMillan, 610 Washington Street.

972
01:29:50,560 --> 01:29:59,440
» Thank you. And my issue is they have
left my yard a mess.

973
01:29:57,280 --> 01:30:04,159
I've got pictures.
Um, they didn't put any straw down.

974
01:30:02,560 --> 01:30:08,320
They right on the other side of my
driveway where the tree is, they cut up

975
01:30:06,480 --> 01:30:12,320
a lot of tree roots. They just threw
them in a pile. Just left them there.

976
01:30:10,880 --> 01:30:16,560
Now, [snorts] the two guys that was
there before I came tonight, they're

977
01:30:14,480 --> 01:30:19,600
pulling that through. I guess I did
discuss it with them and they took

978
01:30:18,159 --> 01:30:23,760
pictures too and they said it shouldn't
have been left like that. But I just

979
01:30:21,920 --> 01:30:26,800
decided to go ahead and come anyways cuz
I take pride in my yard.

980
01:30:25,679 --> 01:30:33,000
» I know you do.
>> And and I you know it's it's horrible.

981
01:30:33,360 --> 01:30:42,320
» Okay. You want to answer that?
>> Um yeah, I can speak on that. I uh

982
01:30:38,880 --> 01:30:46,719
apologize about the mess that they left.
Um, I need to know your address.

983
01:30:45,520 --> 01:30:51,040
» 610 Washington.
>> 610 Washington.

984
01:30:48,719 --> 01:30:57,600
» I can uh I can call to people with
mainstream fiber and ensure that that's

985
01:30:54,719 --> 01:31:02,960
uh taken care of first thing in the
morning. So there [clears throat] will

986
01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:08,159
be somebody out there um tomorrow and it
will be seated

987
01:31:05,360 --> 01:31:12,880
and uh
I mean that's I just need to know

988
01:31:10,400 --> 01:31:19,600
addresses and
>> after the construction phase

989
01:31:16,239 --> 01:31:28,480
um is completed they're going to be
going around um all of the town and uh

990
01:31:24,800 --> 01:31:34,639
if there's anything that the citizens
um the residents are not happy with um

991
01:31:31,440 --> 01:31:39,639
they're happy to address it and uh fix
it. Um yeah,

992
01:31:42,719 --> 01:31:53,120
they do the best they can. I think um
considering how many holes they have in

993
01:31:49,440 --> 01:31:58,320
this town right now, don't think it's
fair to say that it's hard to get it all

994
01:31:56,400 --> 01:32:03,120
fixed.
in a prompt and timely manner. So,

995
01:32:01,040 --> 01:32:09,280
» well, I hope it rains too because you
know the price of of water and hope I

996
01:32:05,760 --> 01:32:14,960
can't afford the waters.
>> Mar, keep in mind too um as a part of

997
01:32:12,560 --> 01:32:17,520
their final phase, they'll be going back
around.

998
01:32:15,600 --> 01:32:23,440
» Okay? Because that was one thing that we
stipulated is that as the soil settles,

999
01:32:21,440 --> 01:32:28,560
things compact, they need to go back
around and fix any issues where maybe

1000
01:32:26,880 --> 01:32:32,000
stuff is settled around a box. We don't
want to leave a lip of the box sticking

1001
01:32:30,159 --> 01:32:34,880
up, something where somebody could have
a trip hazard,

1002
01:32:33,360 --> 01:32:37,760
» anything like that.
>> They need to put it back to the way it

1003
01:32:37,199 --> 01:32:41,760
was found.
>> Yeah.

1004
01:32:38,159 --> 01:32:45,520
» Um so that may be one of those and if it
settles, come back, let us know so we

1005
01:32:43,920 --> 01:32:47,199
can put it on the list. That way we make
sure they check it.

1006
01:32:46,800 --> 01:32:50,400
» Okay.
>> Because if you [clears throat] don't say

1007
01:32:49,040 --> 01:32:54,239
anything, they don't know.
>> I mean,

1008
01:32:52,159 --> 01:32:56,000
with how many houses are around here
that they

1009
01:32:54,639 --> 01:33:00,000
» Well, and the two guys I talked to
tonight, they were really nice. They're

1010
01:32:57,920 --> 01:33:03,679
not the ones that made the mess, though.
They were the the next phase. So,

1011
01:33:02,629 --> 01:33:07,440
[clears throat] but they took pictures
and they were really nice about it. So,

1012
01:33:05,600 --> 01:33:13,120
and I mean, I was too. I mean, I know
they got a lot to do, but I just, you

1013
01:33:10,320 --> 01:33:18,480
know, think it should be like cuz I I I
said I take pride in my yard. I

1014
01:33:15,440 --> 01:33:21,440
» I, you know, I pay to have it spray,
okay? I mean, and all that kind of

1015
01:33:20,400 --> 01:33:23,920
stuff. So,
>> Okay.

1016
01:33:21,840 --> 01:33:27,760
» But, okay. Thank you.
>> We'll get them out there.

1017
01:33:25,440 --> 01:33:32,880
» Margie, if there's any issue, um, the
town of Hope has a Facebook page and

1018
01:33:30,800 --> 01:33:36,280
just message me.
Everybody knows

1019
01:33:36,880 --> 01:33:41,320
this week. I think you have one of those
templates.

1020
01:33:44,960 --> 01:33:50,320
» Thank you.
>> Welcome.

1021
01:33:48,080 --> 01:33:54,374
» Thanks for keeping your yard nice.
>> Yeah,

1022
01:33:51,920 --> 01:33:57,199
» it makes my life easier. Thank you.
[laughter]

1023
01:33:55,120 --> 01:34:04,080
» Yeah. I was just wondering uh we live on
Robin Street and after they dug up from

1024
01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:09,679
Main Street and outside our Ma meter
while we had a leak inside the meter on

1025
01:34:05,920 --> 01:34:16,400
my property and I it happened after they
dug the hole down to the the line

1026
01:34:14,639 --> 01:34:22,000
» on the outside.
>> You know what what date they were there?

1027
01:34:19,040 --> 01:34:25,679
» He said that they were there the 29th.
>> Okay.

1028
01:34:22,400 --> 01:34:28,679
» And the leak happened on the 9th.
Okay.

1029
01:34:28,800 --> 01:34:33,600
» Name address for the record.
>> Mark Tristler.

1030
01:34:32,639 --> 01:34:38,760
» What's your address?
>> 328 Robert Street.

1031
01:34:35,600 --> 01:34:38,760
» Thank you.

1032
01:34:39,280 --> 01:34:47,840
» Our utility superintendent, Jason Mack,
is here uh this evening. I will have him

1033
01:34:45,679 --> 01:34:53,600
go out first thing in the morning and
look at your meter and uh see if it's on

1034
01:34:51,679 --> 01:34:59,280
your side or on
>> it is on my side. I had I think Jeremy

1035
01:34:56,960 --> 01:35:03,199
» Yeah, Jeremy's already gone out.
>> But that he said it's on my side,

1036
01:35:01,520 --> 01:35:06,000
» but it didn't happen till after they dug
up.

1037
01:35:03,520 --> 01:35:09,400
» Could it be anything that the fiber
people did

1038
01:35:09,679 --> 01:35:16,080
» right through there? I'm not sure. I
think they stayed on the side of the

1039
01:35:14,080 --> 01:35:20,960
meter.
Unless I can put we'll take it.

1040
01:35:18,560 --> 01:35:24,960
» Okay. The leak is just
by the meter on my property.

1041
01:35:23,120 --> 01:35:29,120
» It's right at the meter.
>> So, I got somebody coming to fix it. I

1042
01:35:27,679 --> 01:35:34,480
know my water bill is going to be high
because it [clears throat] went for like

1043
01:35:31,440 --> 01:35:38,960
seven days
being le

1044
01:35:37,199 --> 01:35:45,600
and there was this second thing I want
to address about the roads being done.

1045
01:35:43,199 --> 01:35:50,159
Are they going to do anything with Union
Union Street between Seminary and South

1046
01:35:47,920 --> 01:35:54,080
Street? Are they going to leave it
travel?

1047
01:35:51,520 --> 01:35:58,159
» Well, that's a pretty hot topic.
>> Oh, okay.

1048
01:35:54,719 --> 01:36:05,199
» Uh it it's been discussed many times. Um
so the the problem is is um

1049
01:36:03,199 --> 01:36:12,320
the property that owned on each side of
it is still owned by Pope Hardwoods.

1050
01:36:09,040 --> 01:36:18,880
» Yeah. Um,
technically how the street lines up,

1051
01:36:16,639 --> 01:36:23,760
we would have to cross their property
line to get it to be lined up perfectly.

1052
01:36:22,880 --> 01:36:28,639
Um,
>> it used to be a street.

1053
01:36:26,639 --> 01:36:32,639
It was a street. It was paint a paint
street before.

1054
01:36:30,239 --> 01:36:35,760
» I don't I don't that must be way before
my time, but

1055
01:36:33,920 --> 01:36:39,920
» it used to be. I've been there for 50
years. uh you know if we got to the

1056
01:36:38,639 --> 01:36:47,119
point that yes, we're going to put this
that had it has to be completely

1057
01:36:43,120 --> 01:36:54,719
» dug out compacted um which
>> if everybody knows is not cheap. Um we

1058
01:36:51,119 --> 01:37:02,000
just did what Broad Street between
>> seminary and South

1059
01:36:57,840 --> 01:37:06,560
» and um you know it was pretty costly but
it's not to say that it's not on the

1060
01:37:03,280 --> 01:37:09,199
radar. It's on the radar. It's um
>> unfortunately

1061
01:37:07,520 --> 01:37:12,639
» until something happens with the
property

1062
01:37:10,400 --> 01:37:18,639
» um whether
uh it's

1063
01:37:14,880 --> 01:37:22,320
the property lines are adjusted or if
they decide to sell it.

1064
01:37:19,760 --> 01:37:28,000
» Can it be reszone?
>> I don't know specifically how not

1065
01:37:26,080 --> 01:37:35,280
necessarily reszoned. It has to be
reserveyed. Okay. Um, we don't know what

1066
01:37:31,760 --> 01:37:43,360
the property owner's
idea is there. They may they may decide

1067
01:37:38,320 --> 01:37:48,800
to to um change that whole thing there.
And if they do, if they build houses,

1068
01:37:46,480 --> 01:37:53,199
that street that we know may not be
there anymore.

1069
01:37:50,639 --> 01:37:57,119
» So, we're going away with the street.
>> Well,

1070
01:37:53,840 --> 01:38:03,119
» it's still considered a street that's on
it.

1071
01:37:59,440 --> 01:38:08,639
the infrastructure may change.
>> The biggest problem that

1072
01:38:06,000 --> 01:38:15,199
um we ran into when we were looking at
this was

1073
01:38:11,280 --> 01:38:22,320
uh there is not enough right of way to
build a functional two-lane road between

1074
01:38:19,679 --> 01:38:28,080
South Street and seminary. The town only
owes like only owns like 14 foot of

1075
01:38:25,280 --> 01:38:32,880
right away which is not enough to
legally make a twolane road by today's

1076
01:38:31,840 --> 01:38:35,440
standards.
>> Okay. But it was a two-lane road to

1077
01:38:34,639 --> 01:38:45,280
start with,
>> right? Um and maybe 50 years ago or

1078
01:38:41,440 --> 01:38:50,400
whenever it was a official paved road,
if it was a official pave, I'm not sure.

1079
01:38:48,560 --> 01:38:57,440
» Um
that could have sufficed, but now with

1080
01:38:53,679 --> 01:39:05,840
the way that modern roads are built,
minimum is 16 ft wide. So,

1081
01:39:02,480 --> 01:39:12,800
uh along most of Union Street, there's a
50 foot rightway which is clear up 10 10

1082
01:39:09,920 --> 01:39:19,440
or 12 feet into your front yard on both
sides of this town right away, but for

1083
01:39:16,480 --> 01:39:25,679
some reason that never extended
>> um past seminary street.

1084
01:39:22,560 --> 01:39:30,239
» So, it makes it really difficult to
figure out how we purchase right away

1085
01:39:28,480 --> 01:39:36,400
from
Woods Millers or if they want to sell it

1086
01:39:33,199 --> 01:39:42,880
and how much it cost.
>> Then the then you add to the to the

1087
01:39:39,760 --> 01:39:50,400
total cost of constructing
a 100 yard long road. Um the last time I

1088
01:39:47,280 --> 01:39:53,520
checked it was around $300,000.
>> Yeah.

1089
01:39:51,040 --> 01:39:59,679
» So it's just one of those things. It's
not a priority for the town because it's

1090
01:39:56,800 --> 01:40:07,360
an excessive amount of money to spend on
100 yards of road when we could that

1091
01:40:03,040 --> 01:40:12,800
$300,000 could go to a multitude of
other roads in town and make them good

1092
01:40:11,040 --> 01:40:16,719
for five or 10 years. [clears throat]
>> I understand that. I just wonder it's

1093
01:40:14,800 --> 01:40:19,600
just a question I want.
>> Yep. No, it's a good question. I mean,

1094
01:40:18,880 --> 01:40:22,800
it's
>> You're not the first one to have asked

1095
01:40:20,960 --> 01:40:24,000
it. I promise you probably won't be the
last.

1096
01:40:23,440 --> 01:40:26,159
» Okay,
>> that's okay.

1097
01:40:24,719 --> 01:40:28,960
» Thank you very much. All right. Thank
you.

1098
01:40:27,360 --> 01:40:30,880
» Do we have anybody else?
>> Can I ask another question?

1099
01:40:30,480 --> 01:40:33,199
» Yeah.
>> Yeah.

1100
01:40:31,199 --> 01:40:38,480
» And it has nothing to do with any
problems in Hope. Okay. [laughter]

1101
01:40:36,159 --> 01:40:45,239
» I have to locate a water line and a
fiber optic line going down a lane to

1102
01:40:42,000 --> 01:40:45,239
the hope.

1103
01:40:47,600 --> 01:40:54,719
Is there an address for the Hope
Sanitary?

1104
01:40:52,639 --> 01:40:57,719
» Well, turn around. that guy right behind
you.

1105
01:41:00,159 --> 01:41:07,760
» I think came in.
>> Yeah. Well, I

1106
01:41:04,560 --> 01:41:12,400
» cuz when I called in
>> So,

1107
01:41:09,280 --> 01:41:17,600
» the only thing that I can say is that
maybe I can have Diane pull a record for

1108
01:41:15,040 --> 01:41:23,040
the electric bill that we were seeing.
>> That' be a good place.

1109
01:41:19,600 --> 01:41:25,280
» And that might might show us an address.
We got a few tomorrow.

1110
01:41:24,320 --> 01:41:30,239
» Okay, I appreciate that.
>> Is it not listed on GIS?

1111
01:41:27,040 --> 01:41:32,239
» 301 to 499 Race Street.
>> I just pulled up.

1112
01:41:31,679 --> 01:41:34,000
» What?
>> What? Race Street.

1113
01:41:33,040 --> 01:41:38,080
» Race Street.
>> Race Street. 301 to 499 Race Street.

1114
01:41:36,800 --> 01:41:40,719
» Well, that ain't nowhere near Race
Street.

1115
01:41:38,719 --> 01:41:45,840
» It's right on Race Street. I don't know
what you're talking about.

1116
01:41:42,960 --> 01:41:50,239
» It runs right along Race Street. That's
where I know where he's talking about.

1117
01:41:49,199 --> 01:41:53,280
» He's talking about
>> that's the official address for the

1118
01:41:52,159 --> 01:41:55,440
cemetery.
>> You're talking about the one off 600,

1119
01:41:55,119 --> 01:42:01,520
right?
>> Oh, okay.

1120
01:41:57,280 --> 01:42:06,440
» The one on 600 that comes cuts down.
>> I thought I thought I cemetery. I'm

1121
01:42:03,440 --> 01:42:06,440
sorry.

1122
01:42:11,280 --> 01:42:17,199
» Hey, I got a good idea. Just kidding.
guys locate here. Hope we send him down

1123
01:42:16,960 --> 01:42:20,480
there.
>> We'll get you one

1124
01:42:19,440 --> 01:42:25,840
way or another.
>> Jason, get on hold one of them guys

1125
01:42:23,520 --> 01:42:31,400
that's located here and hope take them
down there.

1126
01:42:28,239 --> 01:42:31,400
» I think

1127
01:42:32,159 --> 01:42:38,360
we have do we have anybody else for
public

1128
01:42:35,360 --> 01:42:38,360
» comment?

1129
01:42:39,760 --> 01:42:48,800
» I want to thank everybody for coming. I
want to thank everybody for uh having uh

1130
01:42:47,199 --> 01:42:52,400
pride in their community. I want to
thank everybody for coming tonight.

1131
01:42:50,639 --> 01:42:57,360
That's been a very productive meeting
and I want to thank everybody for

1132
01:42:53,840 --> 01:43:00,360
coming. I now declare this meeting
closed.