1 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:56,160 06. 2 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:58,220 38-50, 2-15, 2020. 3 00:00:58,620 --> 00:01:02,660 5-60 , PM, do I have any additions to the agenda this evening ? 4 00:01:02,660 --> 00:01:10,710 I have a motion to adopt this agenda. 5 00:01:11,770 --> 00:01:12,210 A second. 6 00:01:15,090 --> 00:01:16,950 Next is adopted. 7 00:01:17,310 --> 00:01:19,790 First up this evening we have an adoption. 8 00:01:20,650 --> 00:01:23,990 We have a, authoration, sigh, permission, 9 00:01:23,990 --> 00:01:28,790 of page beckers and naming the city, page beckers, 10 00:01:29,370 --> 00:01:32,950 page beckers, Minnesota for the day, May 16th, 11 00:01:32,950 --> 00:01:36,430 2025, I think Layla is presenting this evening. 12 00:01:46,140 --> 00:01:47,460 Thank you, Mayor, members of the council. 13 00:01:47,540 --> 00:01:48,800 My name is Layla Mehe. 14 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:50,940 I'm the city's city's city. 15 00:01:52,580 --> 00:01:55,140 I'm the city's special projects in Indonesia's 16 00:01:55,140 --> 00:01:55,560 manager. 17 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,100 And one of my staff recently referred to something I 18 00:01:59,100 --> 00:02:00,680 after to do as a side quest. 19 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,840 And I would call it this Fraclamation a little bit of a side 20 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:07,780 question, but one we're very excited to have tonight, which is a 21 00:02:07,780 --> 00:02:10,780 Fraclamation honoring the accomplishment of page 22 00:02:10,780 --> 00:02:14,560 backers. And for one day naming the city page 23 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:19,960 backers Minnesota on May 16th, page as many of you know, and I got 24 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:23,180 some great photos from council members who have met her and 25 00:02:23,180 --> 00:02:26,360 spent time with her, has made her name for herself as 26 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,460 Hopkins High School basketball player, one of the best to ever do it 27 00:02:29,460 --> 00:02:35,120 high school level in Minnesota and moved on to the University of Connecticut after her high school career. 28 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:40,300 She played for the Huskies and despite many injuries and setbacks, 29 00:02:40,500 --> 00:02:45,800 Speckers has gained a lot of accolades and awards winning both the Nae Smith award and the wooden award 30 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:51,900 and ending her career by leading the school to its 12 national title. The Monday after the title 31 00:02:51,900 --> 00:02:56,380 Mike and I both had the same separate idea. He said, I think we should do a proclamation. I said, 32 00:02:56,380 --> 00:03:02,140 even I are actually already working on it because as a huge festival for myself it's been very 33 00:03:02,140 --> 00:03:09,600 excited to see our hometown hero lead her have an amazing career in in college and then become the 34 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:16,140 number one overall draft draft pick last night at the 2025 W MBA draft where she was drafted by the 35 00:03:16,140 --> 00:03:22,700 Dallas wings. She will play her first game of the season against the Minnesota links on May 16th 36 00:03:22,700 --> 00:03:37,540 And we are so excited to honor her accomplishments and wish for the best of luck at the professional level by proclaiming May 16th that day of her first game, which is also the WMBA season opener as page backers day here in Hopkins. 37 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:43,460 We also are planning to rename the city for the day as page backers Minnesota. 38 00:03:43,460 --> 00:03:48,620 And we really invite everyone in the community to celebrate that they join us in watching 39 00:03:48,620 --> 00:03:50,260 WMBA game. 40 00:03:50,980 --> 00:03:55,640 Here in Hopkins, think Hopkins are marketing arm is planning to engage our local business 41 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:56,080 community. 42 00:03:56,860 --> 00:04:01,400 So, and it already have that underway to have a big WMBA watch game day here. 43 00:04:01,900 --> 00:04:07,020 So, for TVs that far as that have TVs, having them stream some of the games, having 44 00:04:07,020 --> 00:04:12,840 some themed drinks or specials that day, something even throughout the days like our 45 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:16,320 coffee shops, maybe having some beverages, so we're really excited to see what our business community 46 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:22,200 comes up with to honor her accomplishments. Tonight though, I'm lucky to turn this over to 47 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:27,540 someone who knows page better than any of us, which is her high school coach Brian Coscrip. So 48 00:04:27,540 --> 00:04:32,040 invite him to say a few words. Well, thank you for having me. This is quite an honor for me, because 49 00:04:32,700 --> 00:04:39,820 you know, I love toppings, toppings is I feel like it's part of where I grew up. I have so many of 50 00:04:39,820 --> 00:04:47,160 children and former students here. And just the fact that page played at Hopkins, it was such a great 51 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:51,580 representative, but the biggest thing about page that a lot of people don't know is that she's a 52 00:04:51,580 --> 00:04:56,940 wonderful human being and for this good as she was on the basketball court, she was that type of person as 53 00:04:56,940 --> 00:04:59,940 well. And I feel like as a 54 00:05:03,260 --> 00:05:29,980 So, a lot of times we could stay in the heck out of our way. We said, you know, when she's playing for us, there was a plan A going into a game. And if that didn't work, it was called plan P. That's good to ball the page and get out of the way, right? And so it was very cool to see her go to Yukon and meet Coach Arianna, who's like modern day, John Wooden. Wonderful man. And the relationship that they had when they, uh, I 55 00:05:29,980 --> 00:05:34,740 when they won the National Championship and they embraced after it, and then the game brought 56 00:05:34,740 --> 00:05:39,840 chills to me and tears to my eyes because they have such a wonderful relationship. And then 57 00:05:39,840 --> 00:05:44,200 finally seeing her go on to become a number one draft, number one overall draft pick. 58 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:50,800 Something she had predicted her senior year actually. Yeah, I mean it's on camera that she did predict that. 59 00:05:51,380 --> 00:05:58,120 So, you know, I feel like this is kind of the icing on the cake, you know, 60 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:04,680 be page-bakers when it's been a soda and I don't know what that I feel as my home. I'm very moved 61 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,560 and honored to be here with. Thank you. 62 00:06:10,740 --> 00:06:13,260 All right. Thank you. Yeah. I saw that video clip and that was 63 00:06:13,260 --> 00:06:19,960 amazing of her example of positive thinking and manifesting your own future that was amazing to 64 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:25,620 to watch. So thank you for joining us today and with that would you like me to read the 65 00:06:25,620 --> 00:06:29,460 proclamation? Okay. This is a little unique proclamation. A lot of times we have 66 00:06:29,460 --> 00:06:33,820 but naming the entire city after page vectors is pretty unique. 67 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:36,560 So this is very honored to do this. 68 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,560 A proclamation honoring the accomplishments of page vectors 69 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:44,220 became known as one of the best Minnesota high school basketball players 70 00:06:44,220 --> 00:06:46,780 ever while attending Hopkins high school. 71 00:06:47,140 --> 00:06:49,660 And whereas vectors went on to an illustrious career 72 00:06:49,660 --> 00:06:52,360 playing college basketball for the University of Connecticut 73 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:55,560 becoming a three-time All-American being named 74 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:57,700 to the NCAA Tournament four times. 75 00:06:57,700 --> 00:07:03,080 winning both the naysmith and wooden awards and leading the Huskies to their 12th National 76 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:08,340 Championship this year on April 6th which was great to watch. Beckers was a top pick in the 77 00:07:08,340 --> 00:07:14,580 2025 WMBA draft with the first game of the season scheduled for May 16th the rest of Minnesota 78 00:07:14,580 --> 00:07:19,520 may be torn but we aren't here in Hopkins. Whereas residents of Hopkins and the entire 79 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:23,800 state of Minnesota are excited to watch the professional career of one of our very own. 80 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:28,760 The City of Hopkins wishes to congratulate Page Beckers on her success so far and wish 81 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:34,560 her the best of luck as a future WNVA star and we hope that everyone watches women's 82 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,140 sports and watches that game on May 16th. 83 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:41,700 Now, therefore, I, Patrick Hamlin, mayor of the City of Hopkins in the state of Minnesota 84 00:07:41,700 --> 00:07:47,720 along with my fellow council members proclaim May 16th the city of Hopkins to be renamed 85 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:53,260 Paige Becker's Minnesota and that'd be known as Paige Becker's day here in Hopkins. 86 00:07:53,380 --> 00:07:55,420 Do I have a motion? 87 00:07:56,540 --> 00:07:57,540 I'll make a motion. 88 00:07:57,960 --> 00:07:58,600 Do I have a second? 89 00:07:58,760 --> 00:07:59,160 Second. 90 00:07:59,620 --> 00:08:00,880 I'll in favor say aye. 91 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:01,200 Aye. 92 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:03,780 And that passes unanimously. 93 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:06,020 We have any comments from council. 94 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:08,280 Yeah, I have a comment. 95 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:12,740 I guess one of the cool things coach, um, 2020 sold everybody short, right? 96 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:13,140 Right? 97 00:08:13,140 --> 00:08:13,200 Right? 98 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:16,600 We're talking about a little bit before the meeting and it sold everybody short with the state championship 99 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:21,160 a chance for a state championship. One of the stories, and I know there's probably a lot 100 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:26,260 other people that saw this in page. After that game, everybody went to the locker room. 101 00:08:26,340 --> 00:08:31,540 There was NBA players there at the game. It was a big deal. After the game, everybody rushed 102 00:08:31,540 --> 00:08:36,440 and lying to get a picture with you and page. You guys stuck around, page stuck around. 103 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,880 I remember seeing the athletes leaving the locker room. Some of the other ones saying, 104 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:44,560 hey, we're going to DiBani's to celebrate our victory tonight. And page said, I'll catch up with you. 105 00:08:44,560 --> 00:08:50,600 I don't know exactly how many kids stayed for autographs and pictures with her, but I know that one of my daughters 106 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:57,420 of I've twins. My daughter was one of the first and my son was one of the last because at the moment he was too cool to do it, right? 107 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:01,880 And then he realized that this is a big deal, so they stayed and I told her at the end, 108 00:09:02,220 --> 00:09:03,700 it stands for her character that you mentioned. 109 00:09:04,260 --> 00:09:09,860 I think that she was over 200 kids standing in that line and she could have left well before that, right? 110 00:09:09,860 --> 00:09:14,660 the team and went to Devonix. I just think that's a speaks to work character. And I think I kind 111 00:09:14,660 --> 00:09:20,180 of a fun, fun gift that I bought my daughter at Chris for Christmas last year was a paid back 112 00:09:20,180 --> 00:09:26,720 or jersey. And I see if the city of hopped or the hopped and school district could maybe 113 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:32,320 retired ages, jersey is just an idea. I sure hope so. And I remember that game like it was 114 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:39,500 probably one of my all-time favorite games that I've coached. And that year, we had a team that went 115 00:09:39,500 --> 00:09:44,580 62 and all and the night before they shut us down and 116 00:09:44,580 --> 00:09:49,560 One of the most I was really difficult. Let's just say that but I will tell you this 117 00:09:50,060 --> 00:09:51,720 We weren't gonna lose that game 118 00:09:52,220 --> 00:09:57,560 I'm not arrogant about anything. I'm as paranoid as any coach could be but we weren't losing that game. Let me tell you 119 00:09:58,360 --> 00:09:59,840 So thank you for 120 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:13,660 I just wanted to make a brief comment. I as well extend my congratulations to page, but also to you, Brian. 121 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:27,900 It's been just an 122 00:10:27,900 --> 00:10:29,940 when a huge congratulations to you as well. 123 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,300 You're going to make me bel up here. 124 00:10:32,300 --> 00:10:34,260 Thank you for having me. 125 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:36,080 It's a really appreciate it. 126 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:36,860 Any other comments? 127 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:39,680 All right. 128 00:10:39,940 --> 00:10:41,080 Well, I think it's. 129 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:41,700 Were you going to say something? 130 00:10:41,740 --> 00:10:42,660 Back when you. 131 00:10:43,180 --> 00:10:43,740 Yeah, see. 132 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:46,020 I was just going to say I think it's very fitting that we're 133 00:10:46,020 --> 00:10:49,820 naming the entire city after after page. 134 00:10:50,900 --> 00:10:54,220 I think of running a city or being a city. 135 00:10:54,300 --> 00:10:55,100 It's a team sport. 136 00:10:55,860 --> 00:11:03,300 And I think one of the things that drew her to Yukon from what I heard is that it was a team environment there and you could see that 137 00:11:03,300 --> 00:11:10,840 Well, I think one of the things that makes her a champion in watching those games is not only that she scores a lot of points, but the next game she'll be 138 00:11:11,560 --> 00:11:15,200 Prash in the boards for rebalance and then the next game she'll be leading in assists. 139 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:22,620 It's just really amazing to watch her and I mentioned a lot of that came from good coaching as well. 140 00:11:22,620 --> 00:11:24,500 She was that way in high school. 141 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:26,040 She was absolutely that way. 142 00:11:26,140 --> 00:11:27,500 You didn't have to tell her what to do. 143 00:11:27,700 --> 00:11:29,220 I mean, she wanted to play as long as she could. 144 00:11:29,340 --> 00:11:32,640 But when the kids from mirror games pretty handily, 145 00:11:33,460 --> 00:11:35,840 she loved it when the kids got in. 146 00:11:36,020 --> 00:11:37,800 She's totally about a team. 147 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:41,340 And who we're just in a foundation event, 148 00:11:41,620 --> 00:11:43,520 and she had donated some items to that foundation event. 149 00:11:43,680 --> 00:11:45,500 So just a good person on and off the court. 150 00:11:45,980 --> 00:11:47,860 I think of tonight, which she was, 151 00:11:47,860 --> 00:11:50,820 I think a board lady, Diana grew up in St. Louis Park. 152 00:11:50,820 --> 00:11:54,620 of course our Hopkins high school is in Minitanka, so we are representing the Greater Hopkins 153 00:11:55,680 --> 00:12:01,040 with just a few up closer to Hopkins high school and she did say it was part of high school. 154 00:12:01,140 --> 00:12:05,200 I mean honestly she did and um this is a place she always wanted to go. 155 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:09,240 And then I think as well of not only the adversities that you mentioned about losing 156 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:13,700 losing here in Hopkins and then coming back, losing it, you can't coming back, but also the physical 157 00:12:13,700 --> 00:12:19,100 injuries that she overcame and the emotional challenge I think it speaks a lot about her as a person. 158 00:12:19,100 --> 00:12:24,740 So we're just so proud of the city to have this day and thanks to staff for putting this together. 159 00:12:24,980 --> 00:12:28,360 Thank you for coming this evening and congratulations to Paige Vector. 160 00:12:28,700 --> 00:12:29,340 Thank you, Mayor. 161 00:12:29,780 --> 00:12:30,300 Thank you. 162 00:12:38,700 --> 00:12:39,600 Come around for a photo. 163 00:12:39,980 --> 00:12:40,260 All right. 164 00:12:40,740 --> 00:12:41,740 You can hold that. 165 00:12:52,780 --> 00:12:57,140 If this is what you wanted to talk, and I'll maybe, but it's not like a Hawkins rivalry. 166 00:12:57,940 --> 00:12:58,280 You retired. 167 00:12:59,340 --> 00:13:00,420 No, I don't. 168 00:13:00,500 --> 00:13:01,140 We're still there. 169 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:04,240 We'll take you to the mayor when David's dead. 170 00:13:33,390 --> 00:13:33,910 We 171 00:13:38,390 --> 00:13:41,070 need better transitions going into consent. 172 00:13:41,670 --> 00:13:42,430 It was like that. 173 00:13:42,730 --> 00:13:44,550 Maybe some months after commercial break. 174 00:13:44,790 --> 00:13:45,950 You want your mic back. 175 00:13:48,820 --> 00:13:52,000 We're going to take a WCCO break here. 176 00:13:52,980 --> 00:13:53,500 Thanks. 177 00:13:53,500 --> 00:13:53,500 All 178 00:13:58,620 --> 00:14:06,400 right, next up this evening we have the consent agenda, you're no changes to the consent agenda. 179 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:10,520 I read through approval of the minutes of the April 1st, 2025, regular meeting proceedings. 180 00:14:10,580 --> 00:14:15,400 Item number two is approval of minutes of April 8th, 2025, special meeting proceedings. 181 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:19,480 Item number three is approval of the temporary and liquor license for LTD brewing. 182 00:14:19,700 --> 00:14:21,480 Doing business as LTD brewing. 183 00:14:21,660 --> 00:14:26,300 Item number four is approval of temporary and liquor license for Minnesota food truck association. 184 00:14:26,620 --> 00:14:27,880 That's an exciting one. 185 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:31,220 that the cameras you hear for that food truck festival come back to Hopkins. 186 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:35,320 Item number five is approval of the temporary liquor license for Oak Ridge Country Club. 187 00:14:36,060 --> 00:14:40,420 Item number six is approval of the Metropolitan Livable Communities Act Agreement permitting 188 00:14:40,420 --> 00:14:45,080 redeployment of repayment proceeds for grant funds as loan proceeds. 189 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:49,820 Item number seven is approval of the Environmental Consulting Services proposal for 190 00:14:49,820 --> 00:14:50,880 broad intertech. 191 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:54,380 Item number eight is a resolution of many the legislative policy manual. 192 00:14:54,380 --> 00:14:59,280 Item number nine is appointments to the Hopkins Public Art Advisory Committee. 193 00:14:59,700 --> 00:14:59,960 Item number... 194 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:05,280 Number 10 is authorized staff to enter into an agreement with the civic, ridgers to host a miracle 195 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:10,660 VISTA member. Item number 11 is the second reading ordinance of rezoning the property 196 00:15:10,660 --> 00:15:15,360 at 100 Jackson Avenue North. Item number 12 is the second reading of the ordinance, 197 00:15:15,460 --> 00:15:20,360 amending part two chapter eight of the Hopkins City Code relating to establish a 198 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:26,780 Hopkins Sustainable Building Policy. Do I have a motion to move? Do I have a second? 199 00:15:26,780 --> 00:15:29,820 So I can only favor say aye. 200 00:15:29,820 --> 00:15:30,160 Hi. 201 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:33,080 The consent agenda is passed unanimously. 202 00:15:34,540 --> 00:15:37,420 First up, we have public hearings. 203 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:43,800 First, first public hearing this evening is a resolution adopting assessment role. 204 00:15:43,820 --> 00:15:47,000 Central avenues improvements, street and utility improvements. 205 00:15:47,340 --> 00:15:49,940 It's for city projects, 24-10. 206 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:52,580 Good evening, 207 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:06,560 Mayor and council. 208 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:08,380 My name is Eric Klingbow, city engineer. 209 00:16:08,380 --> 00:16:14,320 with me tonight is Nicama Tuchio from Bolton and Mank. Tonight we have a couple items in front of you. 210 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:19,000 The first is adopting the assessment role, which does require a assessment hearing. 211 00:16:19,780 --> 00:16:24,380 In the interest of time management, we're going to do one presentation that's going to cover 212 00:16:24,380 --> 00:16:28,320 all of our items tonight. So I'll turn over to Nick for a quick presentation before the 213 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:32,320 ESSESTER hearing. All right. Thank you, Eric. Good evening, Mayor and Council. 214 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:38,440 As Eric mentioned, tonight we'll just be going over a quick presentation, updating on the 215 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:43,820 business we received going over special assessments before leading up into the public hearing. 216 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:50,180 So just as a reminder, the product area includes, basically all the avenues that haven't been touched at 217 00:16:50,180 --> 00:16:54,300 as part of reconstruction and rehabilitation in the past several years. 218 00:16:54,860 --> 00:17:00,600 From 9th Avenue over to 12th Avenue or excuse me 13th Avenue, along with a few blocks of 219 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:06,820 street resurfacing, including a millenol really on second and a reclaimed and resurfacing 220 00:17:06,820 --> 00:17:07,900 on third street. 221 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:15,720 So we received seven bids from contractors back on March 7th, they six of the seven bids 222 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:20,940 came in below our engineers estimate, and the lowest bidder are elircing next bidding 223 00:17:20,940 --> 00:17:27,620 came in under by $2.7 million under our engineers estimate, the next highest bidder 224 00:17:27,620 --> 00:17:33,200 second bidder north west was just $400,000 over, which sounds like a lot, but that's less than 225 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:39,720 5% compared to the total construction cost. So obviously good news there, quite a bit of savings. 226 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:50,200 So the project will be funded through five main sources, special assessments being one of them, 227 00:17:50,500 --> 00:17:54,810 counting for about 13% of the project. About a third of the project will be funded through 228 00:17:54,810 --> 00:18:00,030 general taxes and bonds and about half of the project will be funded by city utility funds. 229 00:18:00,550 --> 00:18:06,590 For the special assessments, 280 properties are proposed to be assessed. Almost all those are single 230 00:18:06,590 --> 00:18:12,930 family residential homes, except for two commercial properties. So the total assessment amount comes up 231 00:18:12,930 --> 00:18:19,110 to 1.95 million and the special assessments for all properties were lowered due to those favorable 232 00:18:19,110 --> 00:18:20,710 bid prices that I mentioned. 233 00:18:23,650 --> 00:18:26,530 Now we'll go through all the policies and detail we've gotten through 234 00:18:26,530 --> 00:18:29,570 that before both with Council on the public. 235 00:18:30,370 --> 00:18:35,670 But essentially the assessment for each property is made up of a couple of parts that want 236 00:18:35,670 --> 00:18:40,290 to be in the street assessment, which for residential properties is applied for a cap and 237 00:18:40,290 --> 00:18:44,770 $109.32 per front foot of their property. 238 00:18:45,650 --> 00:18:50,530 Caps don't apply to commercial properties, but we do take a special benefit of Prasals down 239 00:18:50,530 --> 00:18:54,110 on those to make sure they're getting the actual value of their assessment. 240 00:18:54,110 --> 00:19:02,850 And then for the utility assessment or their water and sewer service assessment, this is where the actual bid costs come into play. 241 00:19:03,170 --> 00:19:07,570 And this is where people want up saving money on their assessment. 242 00:19:08,270 --> 00:19:12,150 Utility assessments for residential properties were lowered by approximately $940. 243 00:19:13,090 --> 00:19:15,650 Due to those good prices we received. 244 00:19:17,170 --> 00:19:21,930 And then we will also take off utility service assessments for people who have replaced 245 00:19:21,930 --> 00:19:27,910 the services in the last 10 years, we will still take in those requests even after tonight. 246 00:19:29,090 --> 00:19:34,470 Total assessment is that utility plus free assessment for your typical 50-foot lot in the 247 00:19:34,470 --> 00:19:40,890 neighborhood that amount comes out to just over $7,100 for the street sewer and water 248 00:19:40,890 --> 00:19:49,050 assessments. We did also take into account the 2011 and 2012 project assessments when 249 00:19:49,050 --> 00:19:54,190 considering the calculations, so essentially those properties that received an assessment 250 00:19:54,190 --> 00:19:59,910 back in 2011 or 2012 for a side street will receive lower assessment. 251 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:09,040 Then, then, then other properties. So, a special assessment property map just shows all the properties in the area that are getting assessed that are highlighted. 252 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:24,620 It shows the ones that have been assessed previously, they're hatched in red, kind of in the northern part of the neighborhood from work in 2011 and 2012. I'm four street north of the Manitaka Mills and third a little bit on third street north. 253 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:31,740 There's a couple of special benefit of praisels for those two commercial properties, and then those 254 00:20:31,740 --> 00:20:39,140 Properties hatched in blue along the regional trail corridor. Those are some irregular shape parcels, which we 255 00:20:39,540 --> 00:20:43,760 Did an area adjustment for their front footage, which I'll get into in a couple of slides 256 00:20:46,700 --> 00:20:50,300 Again, I won't go through all the details of these calculations, but 257 00:20:50,300 --> 00:20:55,240 This is a sample calculation for your typical lot in the name of that 50 foot lot 258 00:20:55,240 --> 00:21:03,120 You essentially just take the 50 feet of front footage for the parcel and multiply it by that cap amount of $109 and 32 cents per foot. 259 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:09,420 And then that gives you the street assessment of 5,400 or 666 dollars. 260 00:21:09,820 --> 00:21:13,680 Add that to the water service replacement amount and sewer service replacement amount. 261 00:21:13,900 --> 00:21:17,460 And that gives you your $7,200 out of special assessment. 262 00:21:19,460 --> 00:21:26,140 The second example is for a property that was already assessed in 2011 or 2012 for one of those side streets. 263 00:21:26,140 --> 00:21:31,200 that I mentioned. Again, I won't go through all these calculations, but we first take the 264 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:37,640 cap multiplied by the front footage in this case 80 feet, but then we take a look and see what 265 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:44,220 percentage they paid in 2011 or 2012 against the cap and take the remaining percentage and 266 00:21:44,220 --> 00:21:51,340 apply that towards that full assessment amount. So in this case, instead of paying an 8,745 dollar 267 00:21:51,340 --> 00:21:59,520 They're paying up $4,738, because they previously paid an assessment about 15 years ago. 268 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:05,320 Then add in their water and sewer service and that gets their total assessment of just over $60,400. 269 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:12,880 The third example is for that area adjustment I mentioned along the regional trail corridor. 270 00:22:13,300 --> 00:22:14,840 You can see it's an irregular shape. 271 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,600 It's not a rectangular, like most of the properties of the neighborhood. 272 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:21,160 So for uniformity, we took an area adjustment 273 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:27,100 basically to make its act like it was a rectangular property. 274 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:29,520 So for this property, for example, 275 00:22:30,100 --> 00:22:32,060 that front edge is rather large, 276 00:22:32,260 --> 00:22:33,900 but it gets narrow towards the back, 277 00:22:34,220 --> 00:22:37,580 so that the adjusted front edge is less and closer 278 00:22:37,580 --> 00:22:40,660 to that normal 50 foot front edge 279 00:22:40,660 --> 00:22:42,140 in this case, 67 feet. 280 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:46,220 And then apply everything the same way towards the cap, 281 00:22:46,220 --> 00:22:47,240 just like the other properties. 282 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:53,900 So there's four payment options for residents for special assessments. 283 00:22:54,320 --> 00:23:00,040 The first is the pre-pay in full or part directly to the city by July 31st of this year. 284 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:06,060 The second is to pre-pay in full or part until November 1st of this year. 285 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:10,680 If it's after that July 31st date, though, interest does begin to accrue. 286 00:23:11,300 --> 00:23:16,080 And I will note that November 1st, this is a change from the November 15th. 287 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,100 that we shared with residents last week, 288 00:23:19,340 --> 00:23:20,440 but it was two weeks earlier. 289 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:22,920 The third option, the most popular option, 290 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:26,200 is to do nothing, let it roll onto your taxes, 291 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,200 or your county taxes after November 1st, 292 00:23:29,360 --> 00:23:31,100 that should say, apologize for that error. 293 00:23:31,620 --> 00:23:35,360 And then that'll be paid annually over 15-year period, 294 00:23:35,780 --> 00:23:39,360 and that the interest rate was recently determined 295 00:23:39,940 --> 00:23:46,680 of late last week through our pre-sale bond report at 8.3%. 296 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:51,560 The fourth and final option is to defer assessments, which would be paying at a later date. 297 00:23:51,820 --> 00:23:54,540 This is the least popular because it just delays that payment. 298 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:56,180 It doesn't cancel it. 299 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,340 And you have to qualify for it by applying with the city every year. 300 00:23:59,500 --> 00:24:00,620 You wanted to further that assessment. 301 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,780 And to qualify, you have to be a homestead property. 302 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,060 And to have an income limit of approximately $50,000. 303 00:24:07,060 --> 00:24:14,180 that will be confirmed with the finance department and then also one of the following owner has 304 00:24:14,180 --> 00:24:18,360 to be 65 years or older active military or on full-time disability. 305 00:24:20,670 --> 00:24:21,950 Once we know the income 306 00:24:21,950 --> 00:24:27,830 limits for that deferred assessment amount and finalize the interest rate will be sending out 307 00:24:27,830 --> 00:24:33,530 final notices to residents with their final amount and recapping these options for payment with 308 00:24:33,530 --> 00:24:37,630 And since we're here, can you talk about who sets that 8.3? 309 00:24:38,630 --> 00:24:39,850 Who sets that 8.3? 310 00:24:40,330 --> 00:24:45,230 So the interest rate is determined by the sale of the bonds, 311 00:24:45,550 --> 00:24:49,670 which is was 6.3% and then it's 2% above that 312 00:24:49,670 --> 00:24:51,450 for the interest rate on assessments. 313 00:24:51,970 --> 00:24:53,950 Is that a city administrative or a county? 314 00:24:55,830 --> 00:24:58,830 So it's the bonds that the city sells itself 315 00:24:58,830 --> 00:24:59,830 and then our policy. 316 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,460 There's always been to charge 2% over the true interest cost of that. 317 00:25:03,460 --> 00:25:04,660 Okay, that's a Hopkins policy. 318 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,520 And that's an estimate because we haven't gone to the bond market. 319 00:25:09,340 --> 00:25:09,360 Correct. 320 00:25:09,820 --> 00:25:11,480 Correct. That is. 321 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:12,260 Right. 322 00:25:21,910 --> 00:25:25,850 That can ask us a really quick question for option 4 for the deferred assessments. 323 00:25:26,370 --> 00:25:31,870 How late could a resident theoretically defer their payments to those areas set in the week amount? 324 00:25:33,030 --> 00:25:44,190 So council member goodland a set amount of time they have to apply each year so you would defer it for full year and then they'd have to apply again if they want to keep deferring yet for another year. 325 00:25:44,350 --> 00:25:47,410 But I mean is there like a finite amount of years that they can defer it or if all. 326 00:25:48,490 --> 00:25:59,110 No I don't believe there's a finite amount they can keep qualifying but interest does a crew while you're deferring it so it's not ideal to continue defer it. 327 00:25:59,110 --> 00:26:02,370 doing Mayor and Council Finance Director, Dan Kvish up. 328 00:26:03,030 --> 00:26:07,990 We have a few people with these deferred assessments, and you're allowed to defer 329 00:26:07,990 --> 00:26:12,750 them with interest until you lose your home state. 330 00:26:13,310 --> 00:26:18,270 So that is either you move out or you pass away. 331 00:26:19,790 --> 00:26:23,870 You cannot transfer it to a child that might be a family member that might take 332 00:26:23,870 --> 00:26:28,710 over your house. So you still have to pay that, you know, if you're going to assess 333 00:26:28,710 --> 00:26:32,550 eight point three percent interest, I used to have to pay that for however many 334 00:26:32,550 --> 00:26:37,530 years. So it could be for your like. 335 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:43,140 Thanks. Thanks, Rick. I'm imagining don't get too 336 00:26:43,140 --> 00:26:44,480 comfortable in that year. 337 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,230 Thank you. 338 00:26:50,690 --> 00:26:55,730 Move on to Project Schedule. So last week we had our final neighborhood meeting for 339 00:26:55,730 --> 00:27:00,810 residents who in over the final assessment amounts discuss a construction process and answer 340 00:27:00,810 --> 00:27:07,070 questions from residents, a lot of project property specific questions at this point. Tonight 341 00:27:07,070 --> 00:27:11,450 we're here to conduct the public hearing assessments, consider adopting the final assessment 342 00:27:11,450 --> 00:27:17,990 role and award the contract to our all-erson. In late April, early May and we have been talking 343 00:27:17,990 --> 00:27:21,650 with the contractor. It's kind of like they are wanting to start in the next couple of weeks here. 344 00:27:22,750 --> 00:27:29,050 The start construction on phase one streets, we would complete phase one streets, substantially 345 00:27:29,050 --> 00:27:34,550 complete them later this fall and then start back up construction in the spring of next 346 00:27:34,550 --> 00:27:39,870 year on phase two streets and then substantially complete those streets next fall with some final 347 00:27:39,870 --> 00:27:43,150 punch list and clean up work going into spring of 2027. 348 00:27:46,010 --> 00:27:48,550 So here the construction phase we're essentially 349 00:27:48,550 --> 00:27:53,190 starting at 9th Avenue and moving our way west and north. 350 00:27:53,910 --> 00:27:59,890 Phase one streets are outlined in red, so from 9th Avenue over to 11th Avenue and phase 351 00:27:59,890 --> 00:28:03,550 two are outlined in blue, so 12th Avenue and 13th Avenue. 352 00:28:04,570 --> 00:28:09,330 The northern three blocks of 11th Avenue are actually flex phases, which could be constructed 353 00:28:09,330 --> 00:28:12,070 either later this year or early next year. 354 00:28:12,450 --> 00:28:17,450 Over the contractor has indicated that they do plan on constructing all of 11th Avenue this 355 00:28:17,450 --> 00:28:23,610 year. So as there's got to right now, that could change. We would update residents with newsletters 356 00:28:23,610 --> 00:28:29,790 as that information comes out. And they also are planning to start with multiple crews. 357 00:28:30,190 --> 00:28:34,150 So it's very possible they start at 9th and 10th Avenue at the same time. 358 00:28:37,010 --> 00:28:37,930 The project communication 359 00:28:37,930 --> 00:28:43,810 we have several resources for the project for residents. We have our website at Hopkins Avenue's 360 00:28:43,810 --> 00:28:50,030 project.com where residents can sign up for weekly updates via text and email. We will mail 361 00:28:50,030 --> 00:28:55,510 newsletters generally on a monthly basis with the first one I come out here this week or early next week 362 00:28:56,130 --> 00:29:04,190 and then door to door notices as needed for things like water shutdowns, driveway access restrictions, things that are property specific. 363 00:29:05,070 --> 00:29:10,330 We'll have a construction manager, Josh Robby, who's been working on Hopkins projects for the past 364 00:29:10,330 --> 00:29:20,010 seven and eight years and then our construction inspector John Brennan will be on site daily whenever the 365 00:29:20,010 --> 00:29:23,170 for questions and immediate needs in the field. 366 00:29:26,220 --> 00:29:27,600 And that's all for our presentation. 367 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,060 We'd be happy to answer any further questions. 368 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,380 Do we have any comments from Council? 369 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:36,900 Public hearing. 370 00:29:37,140 --> 00:29:40,780 We'll go into public hearing and then we'll come back and have discussion on the items. 371 00:29:43,550 --> 00:29:44,430 Hearing none. 372 00:29:48,860 --> 00:29:50,280 We think of the little awkward silence. 373 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:51,540 Excuse me, I'm speaking to you, sir. 374 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:52,380 Okay. 375 00:29:53,460 --> 00:29:54,680 All right, I'm going to open the public hearing. 376 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,280 The public hearing on the proposed special assessments 377 00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:58,260 for central avenues. 378 00:29:59,080 --> 00:29:59,960 Improvements, street, and you. 379 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:05,740 Retility Improvement City Project 2024-10 is now open. The purpose of this hearing is for the City Council 380 00:30:05,740 --> 00:30:11,140 is to hear testimony and to take action relating to the proposed special assessments. Anyone 381 00:30:11,140 --> 00:30:15,440 present will be given the opportunity to be heard and official record is being made of what 382 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:19,660 is said at this hearing. Therefore, persons addressing council are requested to begin by stating 383 00:30:19,660 --> 00:30:25,100 their name and address. Only one person may speak at a time. This is a time for public testimony, 384 00:30:25,100 --> 00:30:30,720 no debate is allowed. Your comments should be directed to City Council and out of respect for everyone, 385 00:30:30,780 --> 00:30:37,340 please keep your comments on topic. And I always like to add that this isn't social media, 386 00:30:37,460 --> 00:30:43,760 this is our community. And so as best you can be respectful to the other folks in this room, 387 00:30:43,900 --> 00:30:49,160 we may have differing opinions and some of the staff that are working on this, 388 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:53,420 I think we're all trying to get to construct your outcomes. And before hearing from the audience, 389 00:30:53,420 --> 00:30:57,260 I asked staff at 30 written materials that have been submitted. 390 00:30:59,540 --> 00:31:01,560 There's two letters that are probably supposed to be. 391 00:31:01,980 --> 00:31:02,120 Okay. 392 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:06,020 And so we'll submit those as part of the public record of the two letters that we have. 393 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:10,940 Yeah, I was just going to clarify with what mayor or how city manager Morrison said. 394 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:14,760 That I ever received no other written materials other than what you have in 20. 395 00:31:14,900 --> 00:31:17,300 Okay. Do you want to summarize the two written materials? 396 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,760 The two written materials actually were not ever sent to me. 397 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:25,660 They were directed to council and the city manager. 398 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:35,880 So, I think the first one that was typed out was mainly a kind of statement on taxes. 399 00:31:37,220 --> 00:31:39,820 Taxes are going up and it's not supported. 400 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:41,640 So, don't really believe it. 401 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,920 I think there's a second one more on the fairness. 402 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,640 People are getting assessed for improvement when the improvements are going by. 403 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,120 They're property although we've been doing that for the last 30 years. 404 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,540 and you could see some people are getting the decrease 405 00:31:54,540 --> 00:31:56,380 assessment might better actually get the improvement 406 00:31:56,780 --> 00:31:58,740 because they pay for other improvements. 407 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:00,080 I just want to summary once. 408 00:32:00,420 --> 00:32:03,160 That's it. That's it. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you. 409 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:08,240 All right. And now I'll call in anyone that was just to speak on this 410 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:08,920 on this item. 411 00:32:11,980 --> 00:32:13,720 Oh, I thought we had a room for people. 412 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:16,160 Different topic. 413 00:32:21,130 --> 00:32:24,090 But just a little while. Okay. So is anyone thinking about coming up? 414 00:32:29,220 --> 00:32:31,640 All right. With that, there have a motion to close the public hearing on this item. 415 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:32,200 I don't move. 416 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:33,200 I have a second. 417 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:35,140 Oh, my favorite say aye. 418 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:35,460 Aye. 419 00:32:35,860 --> 00:32:37,420 OK, and the public hearing is close. 420 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:38,900 I was wondering where there's so many people here 421 00:32:38,900 --> 00:32:39,360 for this item. 422 00:32:39,500 --> 00:32:40,860 I'm like, what are we doing without reach? 423 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:42,280 Let's different on this. 424 00:32:43,420 --> 00:32:44,440 OK, comments on this. 425 00:32:48,290 --> 00:32:49,530 I don't have any comments. 426 00:32:49,690 --> 00:32:50,770 I just have one question. 427 00:32:51,490 --> 00:32:53,750 I believe, and it's only stemmed from the fact 428 00:32:53,750 --> 00:32:56,230 that I had a resident knock on my door about this. 429 00:32:56,710 --> 00:32:58,590 At the fourth, I think, in final meeting, 430 00:32:58,790 --> 00:32:59,570 there was a public meeting. 431 00:32:59,630 --> 00:33:00,610 I think it was last Wednesday. 432 00:33:01,250 --> 00:33:03,550 Can you maybe summarize where there are a bunch of people there 433 00:33:03,550 --> 00:33:06,670 and what kind of where is the overall vibe or cognitive vibe? 434 00:33:07,010 --> 00:33:08,650 Yeah, yeah, thank you, Councilman. We're good then. 435 00:33:09,210 --> 00:33:11,690 We had a fairly good turnout. I would say there was what? 436 00:33:11,890 --> 00:33:15,950 Four people online and maybe 25 people in council chamber. 437 00:33:16,290 --> 00:33:20,710 So pretty good turnout. The meeting really focused on the assessments, 438 00:33:20,970 --> 00:33:23,150 the assessment calculations, assessment payments. 439 00:33:23,630 --> 00:33:28,410 And I'd say the majority of the questions were revolving around the actual construction process, 440 00:33:28,810 --> 00:33:31,070 timelines, impacts, things like that. 441 00:33:31,070 --> 00:33:41,450 Yeah, it was, it was focused almost completely on assessments and construction, so it was a, I say it was a fairly productive meeting with a lot of questions from the, from the residents. 442 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:44,220 All right. 443 00:33:44,500 --> 00:33:44,920 Any more comments? 444 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:55,080 I just want to thank you especially to adjust the assessments for the people who were involved in the 2011, 2012. 445 00:33:56,340 --> 00:34:02,100 I think it's really important to kind of make it fair to them because they've been paying 446 00:34:02,100 --> 00:34:08,020 in the last 15 years for this, the assessment back then, and then I just want to encourage 447 00:34:08,020 --> 00:34:14,900 people who are part of this construction to sign up for the newsletter, which is really informative 448 00:34:15,720 --> 00:34:21,860 and knowing that Josh is always there if you need to get a hold of him, he's very helpful. 449 00:34:21,860 --> 00:34:27,860 Also, with my role being done last year, this is where I get all the experience. 450 00:34:28,720 --> 00:34:29,640 Thank you. 451 00:34:29,720 --> 00:34:30,000 Thank you. 452 00:34:30,820 --> 00:34:33,940 I also, I think it's a great testament to have a public hearing. 453 00:34:34,240 --> 00:34:37,600 For a neighborhood this large and not have anybody come here. 454 00:34:37,720 --> 00:34:41,060 We did receive the two comments here that will look through. 455 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,860 But I think that's a testament to Eric engineering, 456 00:34:44,860 --> 00:34:50,520 Engineering, Bolt and the Minks team, Josh, we had some great bids in this job, right? 457 00:34:50,820 --> 00:34:55,240 There was an emphasis of fairness to have that large neighborhood like that and all I'm preaching 458 00:34:55,240 --> 00:34:59,980 to the choir with a lot of that, but like having a project that large and coming in that low, that's 459 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:06,980 I think that's a testament to the hard work you guys put in there. I know that there's a lot of people that were out in the cornfields of 460 00:35:06,980 --> 00:35:28,820 Chaska and Lakeville and you name it Bill right? Reconz. That's where when the economy slows down out in the buildings and the new houses they turn inside and start looking at city projects and I think you guys have excelled in that. I know construction is scary. Nobody knows what to expect until you've gone through it. I know that people have seen that coming. I think you guys do a great job of putting those, you know, the handholding everybody needs. 461 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:36,160 I do have one question that I don't know all the sewer services and I'm sure you went through this, somebody has the orange bird. 462 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:40,500 Does that get added on to their assessment if there's an additional fee to that? 463 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:42,460 Thank you, Councilmember Koosnia. 464 00:35:43,220 --> 00:35:50,800 So the assessments as presented cover replacement of the sanitary sewer service from the main to the public right of way. 465 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:58,320 If a material like orange bird is discovered beyond the public right away, the homeowner is responsible for replacing that. 466 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:06,640 It's not allowed by the plumbing code, so they do have one here, but they do have to place that and that is the cost of the homeowners beyond the public right away. 467 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,320 Okay, I just didn't know that would say I don't thank you. 468 00:36:11,980 --> 00:36:12,640 All right. 469 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:14,060 Any other comments? 470 00:36:14,340 --> 00:36:18,320 Yeah, I'll just finish this up and say thank you very much for all the engagement that you do. 471 00:36:18,420 --> 00:36:26,740 Community engagement and sort of my jam and my day job and I just always really appreciate seeing you guys out in the community making sure residents are very well aware of what's going on. 472 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:28,060 So thank you very much for that. 473 00:36:28,240 --> 00:36:28,840 Thank you. 474 00:36:29,620 --> 00:36:35,520 Yeah, I just want to say thank you for the written pieces here talking about taxes, you know, 475 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:41,480 I think that's an issue that a lot of us, everyone up here is concerned about and trying 476 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:45,480 to think about and I think you gave it a lot of thought in this project and how it was rolled 477 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:51,100 out and I'll probably repeat some of these comments as we come back for different stages of this. 478 00:36:51,620 --> 00:36:57,500 But you've recommended changes to us that can help save people in the city money when you have a 479 00:36:57,500 --> 00:37:01,920 that has its own fire department, its own police department, its own public works, that's four 480 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:02,460 square miles. 481 00:37:02,620 --> 00:37:03,720 You have inherent challenges. 482 00:37:04,020 --> 00:37:08,260 In fact, I read a letter recently, back in 2012, to the editor talking about the 483 00:37:08,260 --> 00:37:13,800 high taxes and in Hopkins and a lot of that comes from our inherent structure and so these 484 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:18,680 and with a small population that we have, these kinds of changes that you guys may can help 485 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:24,660 reduce some of those costs and you know, I got to be honest when we came into this year, 486 00:37:24,660 --> 00:37:34,760 I was really thinking I would be pushing for a pause in this, because we need some breaks in the tax level and our debt. 487 00:37:35,820 --> 00:37:48,680 And then throughout the year, we had a backup on, we had a breakdown on 12th on my own street, all the shutoff valves, not all of them, but a lot of them of our neighbors, the shutoff valves don't work, and so people have backups. 488 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:54,980 is going to cause serious, serious damage. I know our public works department is there to respond 489 00:37:54,980 --> 00:38:03,480 just quick as I can, but it's not as easy as just shutting it off in houses and so on 11th, 490 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:08,980 we're having issues with the collapse of the infrastructure on 11th. And that's enormous what we 491 00:38:08,980 --> 00:38:17,360 saw happen in St. Louis Park with millions and millions of dollars in risk. And not risk. The legal 492 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:24,840 They were sued and the settlements that came out of that for millions of millions of dollars that that Hopkins can't afford 493 00:38:25,740 --> 00:38:35,080 And so I just want to thank you for being so diligent in the costs and making recommendations to Council and to keep costs down and to keep these really needed 494 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:41,140 Improvements moving forward and then with the assessments as well if there's anything that can be done 495 00:38:41,140 --> 00:38:43,000 I think I brought this up before, but you know 496 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,480 But lengthen the time limit, you know, 497 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,400 from a 15 year to 20 year, 498 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:48,240 something that could be longer, 499 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,160 if we could do anything on that percentage, 500 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:52,880 8.3 is a high percentage, 501 00:38:53,020 --> 00:38:55,440 but I know we're in a high percentage markets right now, 502 00:38:55,460 --> 00:38:57,640 but if there's anything that can be done to keep that percentage, 503 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,300 that makes a huge impact on what people pay monthly, 504 00:39:01,540 --> 00:39:03,860 because I imagine most folks are gonna let this go 505 00:39:03,860 --> 00:39:05,240 into a payment process. 506 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:09,900 So thank you for that, and thanks for bringing this presentation forward. 507 00:39:10,340 --> 00:39:10,960 Thank you. 508 00:39:11,220 --> 00:39:11,800 Thank you. 509 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:14,940 Do we have a motion on this one? 510 00:39:17,240 --> 00:39:29,500 I move to a top resolution 2025-026 resolution adopting assessment roll central avenues improvement street and utility improvements city project 2024-10. 511 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:30,740 Go second. 512 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:32,440 On the floor to say aye. 513 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,540 What was the unanimous passing of them? 514 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:38,500 So thank you and we'll move on to the next. 515 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:39,180 Thank you, Mayor. 516 00:39:39,340 --> 00:39:39,500 Also. 517 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:40,900 Thank you. 518 00:39:44,220 --> 00:39:50,660 All right, next up we have the first reading of the ordinance establishing summit on seven housing improvement area. 519 00:39:58,260 --> 00:39:59,960 Thank you mayor members of the council. 520 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:11,460 Hello, my name is Rubenny Dunn, Community Development Manager of Board City. I am here tonight for the public hearing and first read of the ordinance to establish the summit on seven housing improvement area. 521 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:28,560 This is a refresher for anyone new housing improvement areas, also shortened to HIA's are specific areas within cities where improvements are made to common areas paid in whole or art on fees imposed on the properties within. 522 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,520 similar to a special assessment like we just heard. 523 00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:36,000 Steak statute grants cities the authority to create housing improvement areas 524 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:41,300 at the request of an association requiring that at least 50% of owners 525 00:40:41,300 --> 00:40:46,760 submit a petition to the city so this is initiated by the Association not by the city. 526 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:53,680 HAs are used for town homes and condo associations as a financing method of last resort 527 00:40:53,680 --> 00:41:01,420 for the Association has no other option, and the past there have been for housing improvement areas created in Hopkins. 528 00:41:02,540 --> 00:41:10,400 Today, town homes and condos are a small percentage of our current housing stock, less than 10% of our housing units. 529 00:41:10,860 --> 00:41:23,320 And of those, some would be ineligible for HIs due to the market values and others have already completed HIs, so in reality the percentage of units that HIs impact is quite small. 530 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:35,860 Well, associations may reach out to the city in the future about H.I.s, this would be limited given the percentage that we have and up to the discretion of Council to review at that time. 531 00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:45,380 As some background, some at on seven homeowners notice issues with the building in the past, including water damage and crumbling facade. 532 00:41:45,380 --> 00:41:55,900 So in 2023, they hired encompass engineering to do testing and evaluation of the building which identified several water barrier issues and recommended improvements. 533 00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:58,780 I just included some of the images from the report. 534 00:41:59,460 --> 00:42:03,320 I had like over 100 different photos. 535 00:42:03,900 --> 00:42:10,200 The association began exploring options for financing and after receiving projections from several banks, 536 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:15,720 approach the city to inquire about housing improvement area and they ultimately hired 537 00:42:15,720 --> 00:42:23,380 Doug Strannis as a consultant. This is a timeline, last September City Council updated HIA policy 538 00:42:23,380 --> 00:42:30,280 and how the work session in January discussing HIAs and heard the initial introduction to the 539 00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:36,300 summit request. Summit on seven submitted their initial application materials and staff began 540 00:42:36,300 --> 00:42:38,280 reviewing those over the past few months 541 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,200 along with the city's legal and financial teams. 542 00:42:42,020 --> 00:42:45,780 And then 75% of seven on seven homeowners submitted 543 00:42:45,780 --> 00:42:48,500 petitions to the city requesting that the city 544 00:42:48,500 --> 00:42:51,700 hold the public caring tonight to establish the housing 545 00:42:51,700 --> 00:42:55,680 improvement area and in March, Council accepted the petitions 546 00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:57,680 and set the public hearing date. 547 00:42:59,290 --> 00:43:04,450 Summit on seven is comprised of 62 units of one, two, 548 00:43:04,450 --> 00:43:06,010 and three bedroom condos. 549 00:43:06,010 --> 00:43:22,170 Those units have a median value of 223,000, and all units would be still be affordable to households making 80% of area of median income, even with the proposed HIV's. 550 00:43:22,170 --> 00:43:27,390 This building was converted to condos in 2006 and was previously a hotel. 551 00:43:28,970 --> 00:43:52,470 The proposed scope is to replace the roof, replace the siding and facade, and renovate the balconies and replace all the windows and doors, so in extensive projects, there is a contingency included, and if that's not used on the project, they'll be addition additional common area improvements identified in the preserve plan, the association and to space being able to finish the improvements this year. 552 00:43:53,720 --> 00:44:01,180 The financing request is $4.26 million to cover the construction costs over a 20-year term. 553 00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:05,700 With City administrative fees, this would total $4.64 million. 554 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:12,660 The estimates per unit range from roughly $5,000 to $9,500 per year. 555 00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:19,120 These fees would be set at the May 6 Council meeting following another public hearing, so not tonight. 556 00:44:20,460 --> 00:44:24,280 We had some updates since the last presentation in March. 557 00:44:24,860 --> 00:44:32,200 We have worked with allors to restructure the financing to issue the bonds up front and avoid a temporary construction loan. 558 00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:40,260 So this would reduce the cost burden for homeowners by approximately $500 per year over the 20-year term. 559 00:44:40,660 --> 00:44:46,800 The city's financial advisor has reviewed the request and provided assurances on how the city is protected from risk. 560 00:44:48,790 --> 00:44:59,950 I won't read the complete analysis that was included in the staff report, but I just wanted to reiterate how this project meets the policy goals that the Council set and why the city has an interest. 561 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:22,100 Justice in supporting Summit on 7 with the Housing and Improvement Area equation. As stated in our policy, the goals and purpose of HIAs are to protect the existing housing stock, maintain federal mortgage eligibility, prevent the loss of tax base, and preserve the value and maintenance of naturally occurring affordable housing. 562 00:45:23,580 --> 00:45:29,240 For next steps, at the May 6th Council meeting, there would be a public hearing to set the 563 00:45:29,240 --> 00:45:34,680 fees and the second reading of the ordinance, and then there would be a 45 day objection 564 00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:41,160 period outlined in state statute, where the HAA would not proceed if 45 percent are more 565 00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:46,720 of the owner's file and objection. The city will accept agreements upfront if they wish 566 00:45:46,720 --> 00:45:52,780 to pay upfront, and then some of it would begin construction, and then we've returned to council 567 00:45:52,780 --> 00:45:57,120 to finalize the details in a development agreement and issue the bonds. 568 00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:00,640 The public hearing 569 00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:06,000 notice was published in the sunsaler and mailed to the home owners. Today, I have not received 570 00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:12,000 any public comments. I'm happy to answer any questions. Otherwise, I'll turn it over to you for 571 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:18,020 the public hearing. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I want to do any comments from council. 572 00:46:18,020 --> 00:46:18,600 I think 573 00:46:20,810 --> 00:46:32,230 we've gone through this item quite a few times since I think the council is familiar with this, so I think it would be good to hear from the folks of the audience if there's any comments on this. 574 00:46:33,390 --> 00:46:48,910 And then we'll return no written material, so I'm going to open the public hearing on some of it on seven housing improvement area is now open the purpose of this hearing is for city council to hear testimony and take action relating to some of it on seven HIA anyone present will be given the opportunity to be heard. 575 00:46:48,910 --> 00:46:57,090 And official record is being made of what is being said at the hearing, therefore, persons addressing council are requested to begin by stating their name and address. 576 00:46:57,690 --> 00:47:02,870 Only one person may speak at a time. This is a time for public testimony. No debate is allowed. 577 00:47:03,310 --> 00:47:08,550 Your comments should be directed to city council and out of respect for everyone. Please keep the comments on topic. 578 00:47:08,870 --> 00:47:17,970 I'm very repeat. This is in social media. This is our community. And so the as respectful as you can to folks in the room moving forward with the constructive outcome. 579 00:47:20,230 --> 00:47:26,050 All right. And without anyone willing to speak tonight, we're welcome to step forward. 580 00:47:26,890 --> 00:47:31,010 And I should mention it's a three minute time limit. And so you'll get a. 581 00:47:31,090 --> 00:47:34,330 You'll see cards at 30 seconds and then a card it when. 582 00:47:34,850 --> 00:47:36,770 Oh, one minute on this. 583 00:47:37,670 --> 00:47:39,050 Oh, you give that a one minute. 584 00:47:39,390 --> 00:47:39,650 I'm like. 585 00:47:39,910 --> 00:47:40,050 That's it. 586 00:47:40,410 --> 00:47:40,890 Okay. 587 00:47:41,630 --> 00:47:42,350 All right. 588 00:47:43,110 --> 00:47:43,590 Okay. 589 00:47:44,670 --> 00:47:47,050 We have anyone wishing to come up and speak on this. 590 00:47:52,810 --> 00:47:54,590 Good evening, Mayor and Council members. 591 00:47:55,350 --> 00:47:56,370 Thank you again, my name is Rohit. 592 00:47:56,450 --> 00:47:57,010 Supermanium. 593 00:47:57,290 --> 00:47:59,750 I'm the treasurer of the Board of the Home and Association 594 00:47:59,750 --> 00:48:00,970 of Summit on 7. 595 00:48:01,150 --> 00:48:03,010 You heard from me last month. 596 00:48:03,950 --> 00:48:07,170 And I think heard more detail regarding the urgency 597 00:48:07,170 --> 00:48:10,870 of the project from a structural and construction standpoint. 598 00:48:11,970 --> 00:48:13,790 And then obviously speaking to the financing 599 00:48:13,790 --> 00:48:15,510 of last resort option as well. 600 00:48:15,670 --> 00:48:17,950 So I won't go into all those details again 601 00:48:17,950 --> 00:48:20,430 and repeat given the time constraints, 602 00:48:20,430 --> 00:48:27,730 but just wanted to reiterate on behalf of our community, our appreciation and gratitude for the council 603 00:48:27,730 --> 00:48:34,090 considering this we really are truly in a position of last resort here with the HIV financing 604 00:48:35,090 --> 00:48:40,570 and very much looking forward to working together with all of you to make sure that we make the necessary 605 00:48:40,570 --> 00:48:47,510 improvements to our building and do so in a way that's affordable to the community members that live in the building. 606 00:48:47,510 --> 00:48:53,510 The large crowd that was alluded to earlier is primarily the summit on seven residents. 607 00:48:53,970 --> 00:48:57,630 There's I think about a dozen in attendance along with me. 608 00:48:58,070 --> 00:49:08,350 And as I noted last time, we had very quickly were able to obtain signatures from well over 75% of the unit owners in the building and support of the HIA. 609 00:49:08,890 --> 00:49:13,530 So there's broad support in the building for the project and it's been a process. 610 00:49:13,530 --> 00:49:16,530 That's where we're looking forward to getting it done and putting it behind us. 611 00:49:17,650 --> 00:49:19,970 Thank you so much for those comments. 612 00:49:21,070 --> 00:49:22,750 Anyone else who is pushing to speak 613 00:49:27,580 --> 00:49:29,140 with a little awkward silence? 614 00:49:34,260 --> 00:49:34,380 Okay. 615 00:49:34,720 --> 00:49:36,600 We have a motion to close the public here. 616 00:49:36,820 --> 00:49:36,920 Follow. 617 00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:38,160 We have a second. 618 00:49:38,460 --> 00:49:38,960 Thank you. 619 00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:40,120 On paper say aye. 620 00:49:42,900 --> 00:49:43,500 Councilmember Goodland. 621 00:49:43,720 --> 00:49:45,800 Did you once did you say aye? 622 00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:46,580 Well, I did. 623 00:49:46,580 --> 00:49:46,960 I did you. 624 00:49:47,140 --> 00:49:47,440 All right. 625 00:49:47,720 --> 00:49:48,480 Close the public hearing. 626 00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:49,780 Because unanimous. 627 00:49:51,220 --> 00:49:52,600 Any comments or council. 628 00:49:54,810 --> 00:49:59,910 I just want to thank the staff for putting together. 629 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:12,500 Part of the HIA approval criteria. I think that was very descriptive and the challenge is that they are facing and it was a good document too. 630 00:50:17,610 --> 00:50:29,050 Yeah, I think it's challenging too, right? When you find yourself in the situation like that, it's to be between the rock and a hard place. That's not a fun place to be for anybody and realize that it's one of the last chances. 631 00:50:29,050 --> 00:50:33,870 and I think it's a shout out that we can still preserve affordable housing for everybody too, 632 00:50:34,010 --> 00:50:38,130 you know, it's just affordable at 80% of my and all the numbers but it's still preserving 633 00:50:38,130 --> 00:50:42,810 your homes, right? Like we said this last meeting, I said it like you drive by on Highway 7, 634 00:50:42,930 --> 00:50:47,430 Hopkins crossroad, looks good from there, you get up closer and you start sealing, seeing the challenges 635 00:50:47,430 --> 00:50:55,250 you're all talking about. Yeah, I thank you for the process and showing up, that's one of the 636 00:50:55,250 --> 00:51:00,150 things, a lot of people don't show up, but if you're asking for these things, but I understand 637 00:51:00,150 --> 00:51:03,470 the circumstance doesn't, you know, happy to help. 638 00:51:05,470 --> 00:51:05,890 Yeah, the comments. 639 00:51:07,030 --> 00:51:07,730 Thank you, Councilmember. 640 00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:12,860 All right. 641 00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:17,620 Well, I just, this is impressive the organization with our staff. 642 00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:22,580 I echo those comments as well, pulling this together, but also all of you folks in organizing 643 00:51:22,580 --> 00:51:23,200 this. 644 00:51:23,720 --> 00:51:29,560 There was some concerns expressed, you know, what if we put this to a lot there? 645 00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:33,920 And it's a really, it's a creative tool that you all have come up with to help solve a really 646 00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,060 unique problem that you're facing. 647 00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:39,640 And there are some concerns about it, you know, what if everyone does this to the city? 648 00:51:39,720 --> 00:51:44,020 And I think you can all speak to the fact that there's not a fun process to go through. 649 00:51:44,060 --> 00:51:49,240 So I don't have a whole lot of concerns about that in terms of how the debt is being used 650 00:51:49,240 --> 00:51:49,780 for this. 651 00:51:49,780 --> 00:51:51,740 It's an assessment back onto the property. 652 00:51:52,540 --> 00:51:54,820 And so there's not a whole lot of risk for the city in this. 653 00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:56,540 And I just want to state that out loud. 654 00:51:57,340 --> 00:52:02,860 It's debt that's looked at very differently than, say, bonding debt of the street project that we just looked at. 655 00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:09,500 And so you all are taking on this debt and you're all together in that. 656 00:52:10,500 --> 00:52:12,800 I was surprised if I were going to hear an exchange. 657 00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:14,820 So it's just impressive. 658 00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:16,360 Everything that you've brought together. 659 00:52:17,260 --> 00:52:23,700 This is going to raise the value of a really great property in Hopkins to it, a really great location. 660 00:52:23,700 --> 00:52:30,920 you guys have a great location there and access to a lot of amenities and so I'm glad we could come up 661 00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:37,300 with a constructive solution and ever could work together on this so thank you so much. And with that 662 00:52:37,300 --> 00:52:44,160 do I have a motion? I'll make a motion to approve for first reading ordinance 2025-1226 establishing 663 00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:51,940 summit on 7 housing improvement area. Second. All in favour say aye. Aye. Aye. I'll oppose 664 00:52:51,940 --> 00:52:56,800 here you know and that passes unanimously as well we're getting a lot of us tonight. 665 00:52:57,140 --> 00:52:58,920 Thank you. 666 00:52:59,020 --> 00:52:59,560 Thank you everyone. 667 00:53:06,820 --> 00:53:12,240 Next up we have a resolution we should have like segway music. 668 00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:15,640 segway music. 669 00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:20,280 A resolution giving host approval to issuance by the city of St. 670 00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:28,200 on a feces Minnesota of its health care revenue bonds series twenty twenty five under Minnesota 671 00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:34,280 statues section four sixty nine dot one fifty two three four sixty nine dot one sixty five. 672 00:53:35,100 --> 00:53:38,820 Thank you. Here in council. My name is Nick Bishop. I'm the city's finance director. 673 00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:44,780 I was hoping everyone would clear out after the first hearing. So I didn't have to get the one to clear the 674 00:53:44,780 --> 00:53:47,960 But that's how it happens. 675 00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:57,660 I'm here tonight to host the public hearing and also ask for approval for the city of St. 676 00:53:57,660 --> 00:54:04,580 Bonnificious to issue revenue obligations for August and a travel view homes. 677 00:54:04,580 --> 00:54:19,300 back in the fall of 2023 Augustana Chapel view had their development of a 88-bed skilled nursing facility approved by City Council. 678 00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:23,260 It will be located at 412-5th Avenue North. 679 00:54:23,980 --> 00:54:27,380 They have been working on getting financing for that project, 680 00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:35,420 And they have been working with the city of St. Boniface to issue these revenue obligations. 681 00:54:36,740 --> 00:54:40,260 And this does require host approval by the city of Hopkins. 682 00:54:41,700 --> 00:54:45,060 You know, after tonight, there's very little involvement with the city of Hopkins. 683 00:54:45,340 --> 00:54:50,100 These are not our bonds. There's no tax obligation to the city. 684 00:54:51,060 --> 00:54:58,080 There's really nothing, you know, that could come financially bad to the city for improving this resolution. 685 00:54:59,780 --> 00:54:59,960 This is... 686 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:24,940 It is a government under Minnesota statutes for 69. They require that we have a public hearing and that the city of Hopkins City Council give host approval. So I'll open it up. Any questions that the council may have? I should also say we have the CFO of Cassia Kathy Youngquest and Dan Anderson from Tathlaw. 687 00:55:24,940 --> 00:55:27,740 I think maybe some of the few only people left here. 688 00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:30,700 If you have any questions for them. 689 00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:32,040 Thank you for coming this evening. 690 00:55:32,240 --> 00:55:33,680 Did you just want to explain why this too? 691 00:55:33,720 --> 00:55:35,220 How this tool is used? 692 00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:37,380 It might be confusing for folks. 693 00:55:38,020 --> 00:55:38,860 Sure, cities. 694 00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:40,260 Oh, come in. 695 00:55:40,460 --> 00:55:41,200 This is maybe. 696 00:55:41,500 --> 00:55:42,560 How common is this? 697 00:55:43,720 --> 00:55:47,200 This is something that I think the city has done. 698 00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:49,960 Maybe once every two years. 699 00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:54,020 Non-profits under the State Statue 700 00:55:54,020 --> 00:55:59,340 under federal tax law can issue taxes on behalf of nonprofit organizations. 701 00:56:00,220 --> 00:56:08,820 We have done this for the Blake school in the past, and we have also done it for, we 702 00:56:08,820 --> 00:56:10,100 would it for the Burns Building. 703 00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:15,000 But it's just basically a mechanism where they can issue tax exempt bonds at a lower rate 704 00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,940 because of their status and the project that we're doing. 705 00:56:20,460 --> 00:56:29,440 And there's this kind of this nexus provision, I think they call it where a different city can and work the issue of those thoughts. 706 00:56:30,690 --> 00:56:31,950 Thank you. 707 00:56:33,380 --> 00:56:35,440 We have no written documents. 708 00:56:35,780 --> 00:56:36,240 I'm sure. 709 00:56:36,580 --> 00:56:37,520 There are no written documents. 710 00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:39,460 I imagine. 711 00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:41,520 All right. 712 00:56:41,980 --> 00:56:47,260 Can I get a, can I get a present pronunciation on one of faces? I've heard it three times now. 713 00:56:47,260 --> 00:56:49,120 To the point, I'm a person. 714 00:56:49,300 --> 00:56:50,080 He's a person. 715 00:56:50,100 --> 00:56:51,900 I was, I honestly seen Bonnie. 716 00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:52,520 Yeah. 717 00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:52,680 I see Bonnie. 718 00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:53,900 But I see Bonnie. 719 00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:56,840 All right. 720 00:56:57,460 --> 00:56:59,300 The public hearing regarding health care 721 00:56:59,300 --> 00:57:02,960 facility and a consenting to, and consenting to the 722 00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:05,280 issuance of revenue obligations by the city of 723 00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:07,940 St. Bonnie for the benefit of August Anna 724 00:57:07,940 --> 00:57:09,900 Chapel of U homes is now open. 725 00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:11,880 The purpose of this hearing is for the city council 726 00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,500 to hear testimony and take action relating to the issuance of 727 00:57:15,140 --> 00:57:19,660 obligations by the City of Monophages for the benefit of Augustana Chapel of Yuhomes. 728 00:57:20,060 --> 00:57:22,860 And official record is being made of what has been set at this hearing. 729 00:57:23,260 --> 00:57:27,680 Therefore, persons addressing the council are requested to begin by stating their name and address 730 00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:29,560 only one person may speak at a time. 731 00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:31,160 I don't think we're going to have a problem with that. 732 00:57:31,580 --> 00:57:33,260 This is a time for public testimony. 733 00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:34,380 No debate is allowed. 734 00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:37,060 Your comments should be directed to City Council. 735 00:57:37,180 --> 00:57:40,480 Out of respect for everyone, please keep your comments on topic. 736 00:57:40,820 --> 00:57:43,620 And I'll also save the social media piece on this one. 737 00:57:44,740 --> 00:57:46,860 And with that, the public hearing is open. 738 00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:48,400 Does anyone wish to come up and speak? 739 00:57:57,520 --> 00:57:58,180 All right. 740 00:57:58,620 --> 00:57:58,720 Yeah. 741 00:57:58,720 --> 00:57:58,980 Go ahead. 742 00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:02,240 Do we have a motion to close the public hearing? 743 00:58:02,260 --> 00:58:02,720 I'm moved. 744 00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:03,140 Second. 745 00:58:04,100 --> 00:58:05,040 On paper, say aye. 746 00:58:05,300 --> 00:58:05,420 Aye. 747 00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:08,980 In the public hearing is closed any comments from council. 748 00:58:17,490 --> 00:58:18,850 I think for I will go to the next. 749 00:58:19,490 --> 00:58:22,870 I just want to say thank you for coming up with this tool. 750 00:58:22,910 --> 00:58:25,410 I know we've played this role for other developments in the past. 751 00:58:25,630 --> 00:58:26,870 Like you mentioned with Blake. 752 00:58:27,410 --> 00:58:29,390 And it's great that there's tools like this out there. 753 00:58:29,390 --> 00:58:33,490 so we can be part of making these projects happen. 754 00:58:34,090 --> 00:58:36,030 So hopefully this is a useful tool for you 755 00:58:36,030 --> 00:58:37,330 and moving forward. 756 00:58:38,810 --> 00:58:40,330 That's a kind of read the vote, 757 00:58:41,110 --> 00:58:42,330 but do we have a motion on this? 758 00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:54,320 I will make a resolution giving host 759 00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:56,020 approval to the issuance by the city 760 00:58:56,020 --> 00:58:56,940 of St. Bonaface, 761 00:58:57,100 --> 00:58:59,780 this Minnesota of the Healthcare Revenue Bonds, 762 00:58:59,900 --> 00:59:01,120 Augustine on Chapel View, 763 00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:04,000 Homes Inc Project Series 2025, 764 00:59:04,300 --> 00:59:08,920 under Minnesota statute sections four six four six nine dot one five two 765 00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:10,920 through 4, 6, 9, that one, 6, 5. 766 00:59:13,260 --> 00:59:14,000 Do I have a second? 767 00:59:14,460 --> 00:59:15,160 Back up. 768 00:59:15,300 --> 00:59:16,100 Hold on, say we're say aye. 769 00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:17,060 Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. 770 00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:17,600 Opposed. 771 00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:20,060 There are none that passes unanimously. 772 00:59:20,540 --> 00:59:21,920 Thank you so much for coming this evening. 773 00:59:22,100 --> 00:59:22,860 You're recording this together. 774 00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:23,460 Thank you. 775 00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:25,280 Thank you. 776 00:59:26,780 --> 00:59:27,140 All right. 777 00:59:27,300 --> 00:59:28,600 Next up on new business. 778 00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:31,320 If I can find agenda again. 779 00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:33,740 Resolution to accepting is an award 780 00:59:33,740 --> 00:59:37,320 contracts for Central Avenue Street and Utility Improvement City Project. 781 00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:46,040 2024-10. Welcome back. Good evening, man. Council. Let's go to be back. We're up here now, 782 00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:54,580 just to ask you to adopt a resolution 2527 and 2528, which is accepting the business and the 783 00:59:54,580 --> 00:59:59,360 contract or the construction project we had the assessment for previously. 784 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:05,880 All the information was in the previous presentation, but we're up here for any questions, the council may have. 785 01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:09,240 Any comments on this? 786 01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:18,140 I just want to say that this is a third project we've done since I've been here where we did it to your project. 787 01:00:18,300 --> 01:00:19,740 We did interlocking in the presidential. 788 01:00:20,500 --> 01:00:24,320 Now, I have a news in each time we've saved significant money, so 789 01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:27,740 Gooters to the whole team, which includes this council and pass council's first. 790 01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:32,180 I had been doing it to your project, so it's a significant savings. 791 01:00:32,180 --> 01:00:38,280 I think we forget sometimes, you know, the same as we've already accumulated in previous projects all right. 792 01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:40,420 Thank you. 793 01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:44,260 All right. With that, do we have a motion on this one? 794 01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:53,080 I moved to a dopper resolution 2025-027 resolution accepting bids central avenue street and utility improvements. 795 01:00:53,080 --> 01:01:07,980 City Project 2024-10 and adopt a resolution 2025-028 resolution for award-of-contract Central Avenue Street in Utility Improvement City Project 2024-10. 796 01:01:07,980 --> 01:01:09,800 That was second. Second. 797 01:01:10,300 --> 01:01:11,180 Fabers the aye. 798 01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:11,880 Aye. 799 01:01:12,540 --> 01:01:13,140 Opposed. 800 01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:14,740 Hearing none. 801 01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:15,740 That motion carries. 802 01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:16,600 Thank you. 803 01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:17,340 Thank you, Mayor Council. 804 01:01:17,660 --> 01:01:18,460 Thank you. 805 01:01:22,420 --> 01:01:22,760 All right. 806 01:01:26,500 --> 01:01:34,220 Resolution provided for the sale of this $7,645,000 general obligation bond series 2025A. 807 01:01:35,100 --> 01:01:36,060 Excuse you. 808 01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:36,760 Mayor Council. 809 01:01:37,020 --> 01:01:38,260 Again, make push-up. 810 01:01:38,420 --> 01:01:39,860 Finance Director for the city. 811 01:01:39,860 --> 01:01:46,880 Tonight, I'm here to ask you to authorize the sale of about $7.6 million bonds, 812 01:01:47,420 --> 01:01:52,120 primarily to fund the Street Reconstruction Project that we've already discussed tonight, 813 01:01:53,020 --> 01:01:58,420 and also a small portion to fund a water and sewer state of fiber project. 814 01:01:59,700 --> 01:02:04,100 You know, I've gotten a lot of questions about debt. I have some slides prepared to kind of talk 815 01:02:04,100 --> 01:02:09,360 about debt in general and debt related to this project, and also related to the summit on 816 01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:15,940 seven HA bonds. I'm going to go through before I, I'm hoping to be you to all your questions 817 01:02:15,940 --> 01:02:20,020 and answer everything that you're thinking about that before you can ask me the questions. 818 01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:27,960 So, that's your challenge. Okay, first of all, just a broad kind of overview of what we use 819 01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:33,940 that for at the city. Street reconstruction projects, which includes water, sewer, and storm, sewer 820 01:02:33,940 --> 01:02:40,540 systems in addition to the actual road. We use it to pay for facilities, the renovation of city hall, 821 01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:46,780 renovation of the Hopkins Pavilion. I'm also for the parking ramp. We've used it to pay for parks, 822 01:02:47,020 --> 01:02:52,660 Cottageville Park, Burns Park, Oax Park, the most recent parks with that outstanding. We have 823 01:02:52,660 --> 01:02:58,820 issued equipment certificates. That's for like large-scale equipment with a life of 10 years or more. 824 01:02:59,820 --> 01:03:03,900 I mean, most notably, be fire trucks, dump trucks in as the emboony. 825 01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:08,060 We've also issued tax increment debt. 826 01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:16,300 These were issued for the super-value project, way back in the 2000s, like the late 2000s. 827 01:03:16,540 --> 01:03:20,400 They were used for infrastructure improvements related to that project. 828 01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:23,940 They're fully paid for by tax increments. 829 01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:26,680 But that is one of the reasons we have that outstanding. 830 01:03:27,980 --> 01:03:33,200 housing improvement areas have given this similar presentation the past couple of years 831 01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:38,160 as part of our community engagement event. This is new, new to the presentation not necessarily 832 01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:44,840 new to the city. The mayor alluded to this but these are paid entirely by property owners. 833 01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:50,640 Very similar to a special assessment called the housing improvement area fee but that's security 834 01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:58,140 against their property and they are essentially supposed to be and have paid the full cost of that debt. 835 01:03:59,620 --> 01:04:04,360 We use debt because it's hard. It's unnecessary for the city's taxpayers' right now. 836 01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:11,800 The projects that they may want, they may need. There's a 15-year payback period on most of our debt. 837 01:04:13,060 --> 01:04:16,940 And we wouldn't be able to do the projects we've done if we hadn't issued debt so far. 838 01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:20,440 We pay for debt with a tax level. 839 01:04:20,860 --> 01:04:22,620 We pay for debt with special assessments. 840 01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:24,900 You just have a special assessment hearing tonight. 841 01:04:25,820 --> 01:04:27,700 Charges for water, sewer, and storm sewer, 842 01:04:27,940 --> 01:04:29,620 paying for their portion of the debt. 843 01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:31,280 We have tax increments. 844 01:04:31,460 --> 01:04:34,480 They go towards some of our debt in housing improvement areas. 845 01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:38,120 If we are on track, issue those other debt. 846 01:04:39,940 --> 01:04:42,480 We are in the middle of a plan to complete all the city 847 01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:50,540 reached by 2030. We also issued debt for eighth avenue artery and bleak road, which are kind 848 01:04:50,540 --> 01:04:54,940 of impreporation for the light rail and those connections that we've made. 849 01:04:57,890 --> 01:04:59,150 Just looking at our debt, 850 01:04:59,370 --> 01:04:59,950 we have about 80. 851 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:16,960 Before a million dollars of debt outstanding, this is the figure that will be in our audit at the end of December 2024, about 62% of that is supported by taxes, about 29% of that is supported by utilities and 9% is supported by tax increments. 852 01:05:19,380 --> 01:05:25,340 If we kind of focus in on what we pay for with tax lobby 75% of that is for those street projects, 853 01:05:26,180 --> 01:05:32,960 4% for equipment, 10% for parts, and 11% for facilities like City Hall and the Pavilion. 854 01:05:35,700 --> 01:05:41,000 I know looking at this vet profile, this is a lot to look at, but pretty much what you need to know 855 01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:47,880 orange is the debt that we have outstanding. If we issued no more debt, we'd pay that off by 856 01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:58,340 2040. Blue is what we plan to issue. That's new debt. The kind of the blue chunk in 2025 includes 857 01:05:58,340 --> 01:06:04,260 both what I'm asking you to approve tonight and also the related debt from someone on seven HIA. 858 01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:24,500 So our debt would increase, these are projections based on our CIP, but our debt would continue to go up through 2027 to about 94 million, which point it would start going down until it's all paid off in like 2045. 859 01:06:24,500 --> 01:06:31,450 these are one range projections, but kind of based on what we have. 860 01:06:31,650 --> 01:06:35,570 I'm focusing more in on what our debt might look like in 2025. 861 01:06:36,610 --> 01:06:40,910 I tried to put these into what I felt were relevant categories. 862 01:06:41,790 --> 01:06:45,350 Tax, let me support a debt that's paid for by utilities, 863 01:06:45,830 --> 01:06:48,170 tax increments, and then housing improvement areas. 864 01:06:49,670 --> 01:06:51,150 You know, we have that same number, 865 01:06:51,150 --> 01:07:10,330 $84 million of standing, you know, our debt that I'm asking you to approve right now for central avenues will be partially about 45% will be tax-loving supported. That's going to be paid for by both special assessments and also tax-loving. 866 01:07:10,990 --> 01:07:17,650 about 55% of it is related to URE utilities, so what you pay for your water, your sewer, your 867 01:07:17,650 --> 01:07:24,490 storm, sewer will go in and pay for that debt. Our tax increment debt, what we've not 868 01:07:24,490 --> 01:07:29,130 planned issuing anything for that, so that will decrease in this year, based on what we've 869 01:07:29,130 --> 01:07:38,810 paid, and then that line for housing improvement areas that will go down. So whereas our total debt 870 01:07:38,810 --> 01:07:46,070 is projected to go up from about 84 to almost 89 million if you kind of look at that first column 871 01:07:46,070 --> 01:07:55,010 our tax service supported debt would actually go down. So it's kind of an issue to me of what's 872 01:07:55,010 --> 01:07:59,590 important to you and what you're focused on and I'm always focused on the tax lobby and so seeing 873 01:07:59,590 --> 01:08:06,710 the fact that we have the tax that we supported debt going down is a good thing. 874 01:08:09,450 --> 01:08:11,870 This is my last slide, so you are, do you? 875 01:08:19,570 --> 01:08:28,150 So, kind of focusing back in on the 2025 ADAT, Nick Amitouchio talked about it a little bit. 876 01:08:28,950 --> 01:08:31,630 The packet tonight has a pre-sale report. 877 01:08:32,350 --> 01:08:36,930 I think Elers put this together last week on like April 9th. 878 01:08:36,930 --> 01:08:41,650 It has a bond sale with projected rates. 879 01:08:41,650 --> 01:08:47,470 plus an additional 50 basis points, which just means an additional half a percent. 880 01:08:47,870 --> 01:08:54,890 It has a true interest cost of 6.3 percent, and we have a special assessment policy that says 881 01:08:54,890 --> 01:09:03,290 we'll assess at 2% above that, so that is where that 8.3 percent projected interest rate came in. 882 01:09:03,610 --> 01:09:11,290 In regards to the special assessments, full cell the bonds on May 20th, and then we would have interest 883 01:09:11,290 --> 01:09:16,950 period for people to pay off their special assessments from essentially made 21st when they 884 01:09:16,950 --> 01:09:22,890 re-let or when they know the amount of the interest rate I should say they could pay it off this month 885 01:09:22,890 --> 01:09:28,090 but they would not have that information on what the interest rate is but they can pay that off 886 01:09:28,090 --> 01:09:34,830 through July 31st with no interest and then on August 1st we started our interest period related to that. 887 01:09:36,510 --> 01:09:41,270 I would also say that I looked into some of the timing of the payment options related 888 01:09:41,270 --> 01:09:48,270 to the debt, our special assessments that we collect related to these bonds are actually part 889 01:09:48,270 --> 01:09:53,690 of the pre-sale report and part of how we put our bond finding things together. So we're not 890 01:09:53,690 --> 01:09:59,950 really able to offer a longer time period. There could be scenarios where we off. 891 01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:07,660 For, you know, a payment period that shorter than our debt, we also have a special assessment program, so we 892 01:10:07,660 --> 01:10:13,820 had to retrieve removal, private water and sewer repair that we would have that flexibility to kind of change 893 01:10:13,820 --> 01:10:21,360 or mix and match, let the resident or whoever is being assessed side, but the special assessments 894 01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:28,940 related to these bonds. I feel really need to be tied to the length of bonds that we issued. 895 01:10:31,420 --> 01:10:33,380 With that, I think I've covered everything. 896 01:10:34,900 --> 01:10:39,280 We had a great resident academy where I had some really good questions, so you guys 897 01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:40,360 got to live up to that. 898 01:10:43,460 --> 01:10:48,380 I would say I think it's really important that we talk about tax-loving supported debt and 899 01:10:48,380 --> 01:10:54,060 make that differentiation when we're talking and we just had a conversation right before 900 01:10:54,060 --> 01:11:01,840 this and how tax or sorry, how our debt can be used and it's when it's assessed on the property. 901 01:11:01,980 --> 01:11:03,040 It's not our debt to pay. 902 01:11:03,180 --> 01:11:09,640 It's the properties debt to pay and the taxpayers aren't paying that and there's folks want to 903 01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:14,600 make sure that folks don't use that misinformation or put that out as misinformation to the public. 904 01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:21,340 And so I think it's very important that we talk about tax-ledvy supported what are the taxpayers paying 905 01:11:21,340 --> 01:11:24,040 in terms of debt and being having that conversation. 906 01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:28,080 I also, you know, I mentioned earlier, 907 01:11:28,220 --> 01:11:29,660 talking about the street projects, 908 01:11:31,320 --> 01:11:32,760 I do think it's important we have a conversation 909 01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:37,180 about where we can pause in issuing more debt, 910 01:11:37,320 --> 01:11:38,460 realizing, as I'm saying, 911 01:11:38,580 --> 01:11:41,740 that just how the conversation about the infrastructure 912 01:11:42,440 --> 01:11:44,360 that's eroding underneath our feet 913 01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:47,300 in a lot of the streets is Hopkins was an old town. 914 01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:50,220 It was built in a similar time period 915 01:11:50,220 --> 01:11:53,280 of Minneapolis and so a lot of the infrastructure 916 01:11:53,940 --> 01:11:56,200 through the years, it's old infrastructure 917 01:11:56,200 --> 01:11:57,240 that we're replacing. 918 01:11:57,880 --> 01:12:00,440 So there's realities of that as well, 919 01:12:00,740 --> 01:12:02,060 but to least have those conversations 920 01:12:02,060 --> 01:12:05,020 and looking at public work sitting in the back row there. 921 01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:09,000 But dead is a significant part of our tax, 922 01:12:09,340 --> 01:12:11,860 the tax expert, people pay your in-hotings 923 01:12:11,860 --> 01:12:15,220 and whatever we can do to reduce the dead 924 01:12:15,220 --> 01:12:19,540 and I'm all in favor of using dead as a tool. 925 01:12:19,540 --> 01:12:25,220 what I mean, in the case of the condo building that we just talked about, that's actually going 926 01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:30,840 to reduce the tax levy, or sorry, reduce the tax pressure on residents, because it's going 927 01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:34,720 to increase the value of the property, the taxable value of the property, and so that's a reduction 928 01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:42,160 in burden. So to be able to use the tool that way, and we'll probably both the projects that 929 01:12:42,160 --> 01:12:47,280 we just talked about tonight, you know, that's a way that we can use utilized debt, and that 930 01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:52,940 it's same bodies, but to be able to utilize debt in ways that are helpful in the 325 931 01:12:52,940 --> 01:13:00,980 Blake Conversation, we're also talking about using tax assessment as a tool there, and that would 932 01:13:00,980 --> 01:13:05,480 be added debt, but that is, again, access to the property, and that would be adding value to the 933 01:13:05,480 --> 01:13:11,660 city and reducing tax pressure on folks. So I think it's really important when we're messaging, 934 01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:15,680 and we're bringing this forward that people in the community understand the difference, sorry, 935 01:13:15,680 --> 01:13:16,960 the difference between those. 936 01:13:24,620 --> 01:13:25,700 Any other comments from Council? 937 01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:32,680 Oh, I do have one more side. 938 01:13:33,880 --> 01:13:35,320 I thought you said you had one more. 939 01:13:35,460 --> 01:13:35,840 And I did. 940 01:13:35,900 --> 01:13:36,560 Did I say that? 941 01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:37,000 OK. 942 01:13:38,940 --> 01:13:43,940 So tonight, I'm asking you for authorization to begin working 943 01:13:43,940 --> 01:13:45,840 with Ellers, our municipal advisor. 944 01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:49,660 For the sale of general obligation 945 01:13:49,660 --> 01:13:55,620 on series 2025A for about 7.645 million. 946 01:13:55,620 --> 01:14:01,640 This is essentially half of the street reconstruction project. 947 01:14:01,820 --> 01:14:06,180 I know there's some work with the contractor in some flex areas, 948 01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:13,860 but the city engineer and I have talked and this will be enough for our cash flow. 949 01:14:14,620 --> 01:14:16,960 Based on the payments that we'll need to make the contractor, 950 01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:24,800 we will issue bonds again in 2026 for the second half of that project. 951 01:14:27,100 --> 01:14:29,780 Next steps would be on May 20th. 952 01:14:29,780 --> 01:14:35,280 We'll issue the 2025 A bonds at some later time. 953 01:14:35,420 --> 01:14:38,620 We'll issue 2025 B bonds for someone on seven. 954 01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:44,920 And if you go back to 2023, we issued general obligation 955 01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:48,200 temporary bonds to fund the 2023 suite project. 956 01:14:49,660 --> 01:14:52,600 And we have always had the intention and always had the plan 957 01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:58,820 to refinance them, this would not have any sort of change on our total outstanding debt. 958 01:15:00,340 --> 01:15:05,700 But those bonds essentially have a balloon payment that occurs on February 1st, 2026, 959 01:15:07,860 --> 01:15:14,080 and we will, I will be coming back to you to refinance them with font from font. 960 01:15:16,010 --> 01:15:20,930 All right. That is, that's basically what I have at the end. Any comments from Council? 961 01:15:24,380 --> 01:15:27,560 We've talked about the connections to this bond all night here. 962 01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:33,480 I think it's also important to echo the double A plus bond rating the city has that's extremely high 963 01:15:34,600 --> 01:15:39,500 That's doing a good job right like doing doing a good job with that and being a steward of that 964 01:15:39,860 --> 01:15:43,160 I know we're we have a lot of dead infrastructure like you spoke to 965 01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:47,020 Once we get through this we're kind of done in the core of downtown 966 01:15:47,020 --> 01:15:51,640 Maybe it is it time to take a time off for a year or two and do some ketchup 967 01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:55,060 There's always going to be projects. There's always going to be things, right? 968 01:15:55,060 --> 01:15:58,560 but these are some really large ones that are needed. 969 01:15:59,280 --> 01:15:59,680 So, yeah. 970 01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:02,160 Any other comments? 971 01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:02,860 Thank you. 972 01:16:03,140 --> 01:16:03,160 Thank you. 973 01:16:06,570 --> 01:16:08,790 Hearing none, seeing shaking of heads, 974 01:16:08,990 --> 01:16:10,250 do I have a motion on this one? 975 01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:16,600 I'll make a motion to adopt a resolution 2025-29, 976 01:16:17,100 --> 01:16:22,480 providing for the sale of 7,645,000 general obligation bonds, 977 01:16:23,060 --> 01:16:24,860 series 2025-8. 978 01:16:25,440 --> 01:16:26,040 Do I have a second? 979 01:16:27,020 --> 01:16:33,520 on Fibrecyi, I, I, I, I, I, all opposed hearing none that motion carries. 980 01:16:36,640 --> 01:16:37,120 Thank you, Director. 981 01:16:43,480 --> 01:16:48,540 There's nothing like presenting a park project after hearing one-up pause issuing that. 982 01:16:48,540 --> 01:16:52,720 I encourage you to listen to my presentation today. 983 01:16:53,320 --> 01:16:53,480 Breathe. 984 01:16:55,280 --> 01:16:58,880 Members of the council, I'm Laila and me, here I'm our special projects in an initiative 985 01:16:58,880 --> 01:17:03,360 in here, Mike Wontman from Fulton and the make is with me tonight and I'm going to give 986 01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:08,760 a brief update on Central Park. There are going to be a few items that come in May and I won't 987 01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:14,380 be here. I'm going to be on leave and so giving a little bit of a prep to that, also giving an 988 01:17:14,380 --> 01:17:20,700 update on this project. Our new Polk recruiter, Dustin Pavak, is going to present those items in May. 989 01:17:20,700 --> 01:17:25,340 I'm going to talk about them in this presentation and he is well-versed and is going to be supported 990 01:17:25,340 --> 01:17:31,020 by our consultants and staff but want to give you an update on this project before those items 991 01:17:31,020 --> 01:17:39,380 come before you. So just a background on this in 2022 and 2023 the city embarked on its first 992 01:17:39,380 --> 01:17:47,020 ever master parks system plan. This is a really necessary process because we've had sort of a 993 01:17:47,020 --> 01:17:52,060 scattered approach to the way that we've invested into our parks. Sometimes it's just been like, 994 01:17:52,060 --> 01:17:56,400 we have a really good idea or we have a really big community need but we've never really 995 01:17:56,400 --> 01:18:02,580 holistically looked at needs across the community and really thinking long-term about what 996 01:18:02,580 --> 01:18:08,180 that might look like for us to plan over a 20-year span and think about our Park System and 997 01:18:08,180 --> 01:18:13,460 investment. One of the things that we heard a lot during the Park System Master Plan was this idea 998 01:18:13,460 --> 01:18:17,580 of investing in our Park's infrastructure the same way that we do our road infrastructure, right? 999 01:18:17,580 --> 01:18:19,280 that it's a necessary service. 1000 01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:21,840 And people have the expectation of nice parks here. 1001 01:18:22,260 --> 01:18:24,440 I think we have a lot of parks for a forest 1002 01:18:24,440 --> 01:18:25,440 for a mile community. 1003 01:18:25,740 --> 01:18:29,460 We have, you know, 14 or 15 parks and natural spaces, 1004 01:18:29,940 --> 01:18:31,660 kind of depending on how you count them. 1005 01:18:32,380 --> 01:18:35,960 And they're all really lovely, but they're all starting 1006 01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:37,380 to age a little bit. 1007 01:18:37,680 --> 01:18:40,600 And so that was really our work to kind of get ahead of. 1008 01:18:40,740 --> 01:18:43,100 Thinking about how over a long period of time, 1009 01:18:43,100 --> 01:18:44,640 much like some of the work that we've done with row 1010 01:18:44,640 --> 01:18:49,060 construction work and community needs how we would plan for those investments. 1011 01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:55,400 The first project for the undertook from that is a redesign of central parks. 1012 01:18:55,600 --> 01:19:01,100 We've brought this item before you a couple of times as we engaged with Bolton and 1013 01:19:01,100 --> 01:19:07,040 make far engineering and JLGR architecture in 2024 to come on board and oversee that project. 1014 01:19:07,800 --> 01:19:13,560 We also joined, nine-mile creek watershed district, joined us in this project. 1015 01:19:13,860 --> 01:19:17,340 If you remember us talking about this, it last fall. 1016 01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:22,320 The head waters of the nine-mile creek are just south of this across Excel Sear Boulevard. 1017 01:19:23,320 --> 01:19:30,820 So everything that kind of flows down that direction and comes through the park, flows into the nine-mile creek, 1018 01:19:30,860 --> 01:19:35,700 affecting water quality across the nine-mile creek watershed district. 1019 01:19:36,200 --> 01:19:42,600 And that presents a really unique challenge because the soils and the type of conditions 1020 01:19:42,600 --> 01:19:44,920 that we see in Central Park are incredibly contaminated. 1021 01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:49,940 And so I think 9 Mile Creek Watershed District saw a real opportunity for this. 1022 01:19:50,060 --> 01:19:52,640 They've also have a really big equity focus on their work. 1023 01:19:52,860 --> 01:19:55,020 And they're thinking about places in the watershed district. 1024 01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:58,860 They really haven't historically invested in and have target populations. 1025 01:19:58,880 --> 01:19:59,960 They really want to invest. 1026 01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:13,280 So, we're so grateful and lucky to have them as a partner in this work. But it has transformed kind of with the way that we've looked at this park project from what we saw in the park system master plan to what I'm going to show you tonight. 1027 01:20:13,600 --> 01:20:18,020 So I think that's really important context that our initial kind of way that we were talking about. 1028 01:20:19,180 --> 01:20:23,440 This park was really that hub for maybe a more of an adult focused park. 1029 01:20:23,440 --> 01:20:37,520 And we saw an engagement, and I'll kind of talk through that as well, what we saw in the master park system plan when residents were offered, what about naturalizing and what are some of these creek investments people really prioritizing that. 1030 01:20:38,100 --> 01:20:53,160 So we did a ton of engagement, we had an online survey which many of you may have taken and we did a ton of community events pop up events if you look in your packet you'll see a really amazing graphic that will mimic all of the engagement and hundreds of people who participated in that engagement. 1031 01:20:53,160 --> 01:20:57,800 And I want to give just a quick summary of that before we dive into the plan. 1032 01:20:58,660 --> 01:21:04,980 So, of the five reasons that people decide to visit Central Park, the biggest number one reason, 1033 01:21:05,140 --> 01:21:09,760 it's to attend an event, whether that's at the Pavilion, Raspberry Festival, or another event, 1034 01:21:10,280 --> 01:21:12,860 people think of Central Park as an event space. 1035 01:21:13,460 --> 01:21:17,100 At the very back of this, number five is to use the playground. 1036 01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:19,340 If you've been to Central Park, 1037 01:21:19,340 --> 01:21:24,680 It is my joke that my main nemesis in this town is the playground at Central Park. 1038 01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:29,860 It's in really poor condition, and so I think a lot of times I think use the playground 1039 01:21:29,860 --> 01:21:32,140 actually refers to the playground at Catherine Kern. 1040 01:21:32,740 --> 01:21:38,880 There's a larger playground that's at Catherine Kern that people often think of as a central park playground. 1041 01:21:39,840 --> 01:21:44,980 But even that is starting to show its age, we actually do the maintenance on that for the school district, 1042 01:21:45,080 --> 01:21:48,620 but it is really also starting to see the end of its useful life. 1043 01:21:48,620 --> 01:21:57,760 And so, you know, this was something a theme that we heard across all of our parks that are playgrounds are really starting to see that we're in tier and age across the community. 1044 01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:01,740 The things that people were most excited about are most satisfied. 1045 01:22:02,480 --> 01:22:15,540 Our pavilion, the past pickleball, if you've ever watched fast here at any point in the summer, you know that it is just driving with pickleball players outdoor hockey and then tennis courts. 1046 01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:18,980 tennis court saw highlight that as well that was a change from the master 1047 01:22:18,980 --> 01:22:23,800 park system plan that I'm going to talk about as well so thinking about 1048 01:22:23,800 --> 01:22:26,900 my needy's to approve my name is this the playground 1049 01:22:28,300 --> 01:22:32,140 um restrooms and picnic shelters were also really big one of the things that we've 1050 01:22:32,140 --> 01:22:36,020 talked about as we've engaged staff is the need for additional restrooms space here 1051 01:22:36,020 --> 01:22:40,120 we bring in port of pi d's but there's it's like it's that will can be a really 1052 01:22:40,120 --> 01:22:44,060 long walk across this park to get to the pavilion where we have those covered 1053 01:22:44,060 --> 01:22:52,840 structured restrooms. Improving that multi-use path, the path is a little bit odd and 1054 01:22:52,840 --> 01:22:58,040 you can't really cut through it. It is not a total straight shot. You know, we think about 1055 01:22:58,040 --> 01:23:02,700 people who may get off at the shady Oak Light Rail Station and cut through downtown that way 1056 01:23:02,700 --> 01:23:10,300 and it's pretty circuitous as it stands. And then improving the pavilion, which we are in the 1057 01:23:10,300 --> 01:23:15,060 It's kind of separately of a study for a feasibility and improving that structure. 1058 01:23:15,220 --> 01:23:19,540 You'll hear about that in the coming months, but people, people of the favelian. 1059 01:23:22,630 --> 01:23:25,810 And then thinking about what people want to see added into this. 1060 01:23:26,250 --> 01:23:31,550 Number one is that enhanced plantings and landscaping, especially when we talk in person and 1061 01:23:31,550 --> 01:23:35,570 we presented this partnership with the Watershed District, people got really excited. 1062 01:23:35,730 --> 01:23:40,630 I think sustainability over the past few years has really come as a core value for people 1063 01:23:40,630 --> 01:23:46,510 live in Hopkins and seeing the opportunity to have another space that's really naturalized 1064 01:23:46,510 --> 01:23:53,030 and is focused on the environment really comes through. You also see at number three shade 1065 01:23:53,670 --> 01:23:58,050 being another item that people really want to see. And I think in all forms, we saw from Pickleball 1066 01:23:58,050 --> 01:24:03,430 players, they're looking for shade structures so that they can grasp in between sets. But also 1067 01:24:03,430 --> 01:24:08,770 trees and other structures for if you're sitting out watching a kid at a playground right now, 1068 01:24:08,770 --> 01:24:14,550 in the complete sun. But then also other smaller amenities like lighting and 1069 01:24:14,550 --> 01:24:18,270 vet bike racks and then again, those more permanent restroom facilities. 1070 01:24:21,280 --> 01:24:21,560 So just 1071 01:24:21,560 --> 01:24:26,120 to recap of the engagement that we did. So we did quite a few community events. 1072 01:24:26,180 --> 01:24:30,200 We popped up that bear cave. We popped up at the winners farmers market a handful of 1073 01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:34,320 times. We hosted a movie night, console members on King Grito and I watched the 1074 01:24:34,320 --> 01:24:37,520 charity of my deducts, what a treat. 1075 01:24:38,200 --> 01:24:40,940 And so we did some movie nights. 1076 01:24:41,640 --> 01:24:45,360 We had one-on-one stakeholder meetings 1077 01:24:45,360 --> 01:24:49,340 with a ton of stakeholders, Raspberry-Fest, Access Hopkins, 1078 01:24:49,980 --> 01:24:52,940 our pickleball group, our softball users, 1079 01:24:53,560 --> 01:24:56,460 one initial idea for this park was to move volleyball here, 1080 01:24:56,760 --> 01:24:59,980 and we tried so hard to engage volleyball, which is fine. 1081 01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:04,980 of crazy, because it is like one of the most growing minitanka adults sports. And they were like, 1082 01:25:04,980 --> 01:25:10,260 no, thank you. And I think it's probably because they're very happy of Alipark, and we're likely 1083 01:25:10,260 --> 01:25:16,720 to leave them there. And we have really great amenities there that will improve Alipark. But we did 1084 01:25:16,720 --> 01:25:24,580 try very hard to come to a focus group. Talk to United, which is a club soccer team, aka sports, 1085 01:25:24,580 --> 01:25:30,640 which runs a very packed sports camp out of the pavilion and then uses central park as part 1086 01:25:30,640 --> 01:25:31,400 of that. 1087 01:25:31,500 --> 01:25:37,920 And then Minneapolis soccer club, which is a club soccer team that's a feeder sort of 1088 01:25:37,920 --> 01:25:42,280 to the minor, the major league soccer here in town. 1089 01:25:42,700 --> 01:25:47,000 And they have worked with our recreation partner to do some camps and training. 1090 01:25:47,000 --> 01:25:52,000 They're really focused on bringing their players out into community and working with it. 1091 01:25:52,660 --> 01:25:58,600 We also did several classroom visits at Alice Smith, so this is a drawing, a beautiful 1092 01:25:58,600 --> 01:26:05,280 drawing from a fourth grader who this is their vision for what the playground will look like. 1093 01:26:05,920 --> 01:26:11,580 I have never heard more times in my life than need for a zip line. I literally was like 1094 01:26:11,580 --> 01:26:15,300 at that point I was just promising kids like there's going to be a zip line guys don't worry. 1095 01:26:16,720 --> 01:26:21,700 And because I swear to you we probably have 200 of these and they all have a zip line 1096 01:26:24,440 --> 01:26:28,120 And then I can't leave out our youth advisory board. 1097 01:26:28,360 --> 01:26:33,340 They hosted a youth focus event where they did ice skating at the Pavilion and shared some 1098 01:26:33,340 --> 01:26:34,400 of their ideas. 1099 01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:39,140 They had just gotten a really lovely presentation from 9 Mile Creek at their Youth Advisory 1100 01:26:39,140 --> 01:26:39,840 Board meeting. 1101 01:26:40,260 --> 01:26:48,340 And so they were like 100% natural areas, but then also this idea of, you know, upgraded 1102 01:26:48,340 --> 01:26:52,040 an accessible play equipment and then maintaining those open spaces. 1103 01:26:53,220 --> 01:26:54,380 So I think they so cute. 1104 01:26:54,640 --> 01:26:55,440 We did a great job. 1105 01:26:55,660 --> 01:26:56,720 They put this all on themselves. 1106 01:26:57,020 --> 01:26:59,280 I literally just bought pretzels. 1107 01:26:59,420 --> 01:27:00,660 And if you need to cater pretzels, 1108 01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:02,120 Auntie and she does that apparently. 1109 01:27:04,080 --> 01:27:09,680 So this central park for all of the desires and wants for this park, 1110 01:27:09,780 --> 01:27:11,400 which I think there are many. 1111 01:27:12,840 --> 01:27:14,340 It's our second largest park. 1112 01:27:15,440 --> 01:27:17,380 It's right in the heart of our community. 1113 01:27:17,900 --> 01:27:25,520 there's a lot of challenges with this part. So one, and I outlined this in more detail in my staff report, 1114 01:27:26,300 --> 01:27:32,320 but one of the first issue is soil quality, so this was used as an unregulated landfill for a number of years, 1115 01:27:33,140 --> 01:27:40,680 and to do anything, right, to do to pick up the one shovel of dirt. We have to remediate some amount of soil here. 1116 01:27:40,680 --> 01:27:47,280 In the 2015 Pavilion construction process, soils were remediated, we were checking out soils and replacing them. 1117 01:27:47,620 --> 01:27:53,400 And so what that look like is can look like as a spectrum of how much soil remediation needs to be done, 1118 01:27:53,620 --> 01:27:57,520 but some degree of soil remediation will be needed to be done. 1119 01:27:58,240 --> 01:28:00,100 Flooding is also a huge issue. 1120 01:28:00,580 --> 01:28:03,380 It's an issue for this site, but also for the neighboring sites. 1121 01:28:03,460 --> 01:28:07,400 I've talked to people at the church to the north who say they rent a pump all the time. 1122 01:28:07,400 --> 01:28:12,200 talk to some of the apartment buildings who say they experience significant flooding. 1123 01:28:12,860 --> 01:28:20,120 And so improvements here, both in soil quality and flooding impacts would improve both our 1124 01:28:20,120 --> 01:28:25,360 field quality here, as well as make this park a little bit better and either to some of the 1125 01:28:25,360 --> 01:28:32,160 adjacent property owners. And then again, that contaminated soil, really in fact affects 1126 01:28:32,160 --> 01:28:58,780 storm water quality. This is just north like I said of the NIMO Creek water shed had waters. And so if we're able to do some cleaning of that and flood storage that will improve downstream effects for the entire creek. So it's a big part in addition to the idea that we may be able to do some education really create a formal had waters for this sort of a regional park amenity here as part of the redesign. 1127 01:28:59,740 --> 01:29:04,920 And then again, I think that there wasn't a really big ass in the engagement for a new 1128 01:29:04,920 --> 01:29:09,200 amenities when it comes to design. It's a really tight park. We're trying to fit a lot of 1129 01:29:09,200 --> 01:29:14,340 pieces in here. I remember looking at the first versions of this and that's your personal plan 1130 01:29:14,340 --> 01:29:19,740 of being like, oh, so many things you're trying to do in a very small space. But I think that 1131 01:29:19,740 --> 01:29:24,120 what was really helpful in this second round of engagement and really having a focus approach 1132 01:29:24,120 --> 01:29:29,820 on the park. Was that people like the amenities that they have here? It's all about making them better. 1133 01:29:30,240 --> 01:29:34,620 So we don't need more pickleball courts. It was more about how could we provide adjacent amenities 1134 01:29:34,620 --> 01:29:41,920 that would make playing pickleball at this park better. Or we don't need more of any one thing, 1135 01:29:42,140 --> 01:29:47,780 but we really want a better playground. We want better paths. And that was really a nice thing to 1136 01:29:47,780 --> 01:29:53,540 hear from the community and then along with that sort of desire for restoration and naturalizing 1137 01:29:53,540 --> 01:29:54,500 landscape. 1138 01:29:57,400 --> 01:29:59,960 So what does this look like in a revised? 1139 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:14,420 This version, I can kind of walk through this numerically here, just to make this easier. But this is our most recent plan that we utilize in some of the grant processes. I'm going to talk about in the future. 1140 01:30:15,580 --> 01:30:23,200 But this is taking kind of that refining down that concept from the Master Park System plan. 1141 01:30:23,200 --> 01:30:28,200 So, in number one, is a sunk in soccer slash flex field. 1142 01:30:28,680 --> 01:30:32,340 So, this is actually sort of a basin-style soccer field, 1143 01:30:32,360 --> 01:30:36,980 that would allow capturing stormwater during very significant flooding events, 1144 01:30:37,180 --> 01:30:39,080 before the most part would stay dry. 1145 01:30:39,560 --> 01:30:41,660 This also kind of creates an amphitheater field, 1146 01:30:41,860 --> 01:30:45,260 so you would actually be able to walk around this 1147 01:30:45,260 --> 01:30:46,880 and come down into it. 1148 01:30:47,020 --> 01:30:48,580 So, for things like Raspberry Fest, 1149 01:30:49,020 --> 01:30:53,180 it might actually make Raspberry Jam a more of an amphitheater-style experience, 1150 01:30:53,180 --> 01:31:08,800 You'll actually be lower below the fireworks, so some really cool ways that that will change the feel of this park by lowering that field while also addressing some of the flooding and what and so I'll call it the issues here. 1151 01:31:08,800 --> 01:31:12,640 up in the right upper right corner is number two. 1152 01:31:12,880 --> 01:31:16,200 Some of the engagement that I didn't talk about was doing a ton of engagement with Umba, 1153 01:31:16,300 --> 01:31:22,460 the medical academy, and then the Catholic school that is right across the park, 1154 01:31:22,660 --> 01:31:28,020 and teachers there were all really excited about the idea of having more of like a science 1155 01:31:28,020 --> 01:31:33,000 yard or outdoor learning. And so we've incorporated that up in the upper field. So we'll have 1156 01:31:33,000 --> 01:31:37,280 some stormwater pre-treatment there, but it'll also be a space that teachers can have kind of an 1157 01:31:37,280 --> 01:31:38,320 or a classroom. 1158 01:31:40,460 --> 01:31:46,660 Number three and ten is the play area with then a skating ribbon around it. So this 1159 01:31:46,660 --> 01:31:52,740 does remove the like outdoor free-style rink and transforms that into an area that would be 1160 01:31:52,740 --> 01:31:57,080 an unrefrigerated skating ribbon. So sort of like what happens at Burns Park where we 1161 01:31:57,080 --> 01:32:03,860 lay that ice kind of around the trees and then we have a more robust play area that would have 1162 01:32:03,860 --> 01:32:05,240 more accessible features. 1163 01:32:05,360 --> 01:32:07,140 We don't really have a playground turn hopkins 1164 01:32:07,140 --> 01:32:08,820 that has any accessible amenities. 1165 01:32:09,400 --> 01:32:13,040 So this would be designed with in mind, 1166 01:32:13,280 --> 01:32:15,600 with children who have accessibility needs. 1167 01:32:17,440 --> 01:32:19,300 And then, oh, I said 10. 1168 01:32:19,560 --> 01:32:21,980 Oh, there's kind of a dry creek bed 1169 01:32:21,980 --> 01:32:23,020 that's kind of adjacent to that. 1170 01:32:23,020 --> 01:32:25,960 So that's part of some of the stormwater node 1171 01:32:25,960 --> 01:32:27,780 that goes diagonally through the site 1172 01:32:27,780 --> 01:32:29,760 for is the scape blue by the apologize. 1173 01:32:30,980 --> 01:32:33,300 We retain both softball fields. 1174 01:32:33,300 --> 01:32:47,400 This has always been the plan, so keeping those two softball fields really hoping that a lot of these improvements throughout the park are going to improve the field quality here by draining water off of those fields keeping them from being wet. 1175 01:32:48,600 --> 01:33:01,800 And then adding some additional shelters and other, you know, another bathroom in here throughout the park so that you're not going quite as far in between spaces for shelters and bathrooms. 1176 01:33:01,800 --> 01:33:11,820 You'll also see some expanded parking potentially that would be in the event of an expansion of the pavilion in a number of years. 1177 01:33:12,560 --> 01:33:22,060 If we were to expand the pavilion, we would likely expand the pavilion to the east coming out in front of the building. 1178 01:33:22,340 --> 01:33:29,300 We're still kind of working through some of those programming decisions, but we know that that likely comes with some degree of parking. 1179 01:33:30,760 --> 01:33:53,320 One item that's not captured on this design, but that we've talked with our landscape architects about is figuring out a closure of that cut through road. Right now we have it doing a kind of like a circle loop right in front of the pavilion. I think we're likely going to have that come higher up closer to the parking that's adjacent to the tennis courts. 1180 01:33:53,320 --> 01:34:06,100 In previous iterations of this design, we showed the Hopkins Pavilion expansion happening to the north, which eliminated the tennis, as well as the outdoor hockey arena. 1181 01:34:06,940 --> 01:34:10,720 But we heard a lot that people like having tennis here. 1182 01:34:11,220 --> 01:34:17,000 And the master park system plan also showed basketball here, which you do not see, because it does not fit. 1183 01:34:17,000 --> 01:34:22,380 And public works had a really creative idea, which these, you know, no matter when we do this, 1184 01:34:22,460 --> 01:34:26,660 the existing tennis courts are really falling apart, and they needed to be resurfaced 1185 01:34:26,660 --> 01:34:30,560 to accommodate minute-tocker recreation, pop-ins minute-tocker recreation programming. 1186 01:34:31,440 --> 01:34:38,260 And so what we ultimately are choosing to do in that resurface is to remove one tennis court, 1187 01:34:38,560 --> 01:34:42,500 and then add a basketball court within that, so it'll be fence separately, 1188 01:34:43,000 --> 01:34:46,240 and we'll be able to add that amenity without taking away tennis. 1189 01:34:46,240 --> 01:34:50,300 So I think that was just a really smart compromise to figure out how to add basketball here. 1190 01:34:50,840 --> 01:34:52,900 We have two high schools adjacent to this. 1191 01:34:53,000 --> 01:34:57,800 I think that's a really good amount of need to have in this park, but it doesn't fit all 1192 01:34:57,800 --> 01:34:59,960 swear and so being able to use that existing space. 1193 01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:09,120 I think we're extremely well. So with that, I want to just pause on programmatic questions before I kind of 1194 01:35:09,120 --> 01:35:15,040 talk about some of the next steps. And I can answer any questions that we have on kind of this design as well. 1195 01:35:15,740 --> 01:35:20,380 But I want to take a minute if we have questions on how we came to this design. 1196 01:35:26,630 --> 01:35:35,110 I would say it's impressive fitting a lot in here, a lot of different concepts. I know there's a lot of push from the community for different 1197 01:35:35,110 --> 01:35:38,290 different use types and trying to make all of that work. 1198 01:35:38,650 --> 01:35:48,170 I love the fact that this soccer field is on there, whether or not it's the minor league soccer team that's engaged just that utilizes that field or not. 1199 01:35:48,710 --> 01:35:57,130 It's the demographics of Hopkins are changing and soccer is a big part of the new demographics that are coming to the city. 1200 01:35:58,110 --> 01:36:00,950 And as long as, as well as a basketball court, 1201 01:36:01,090 --> 01:36:04,810 we have a championship, we just had a presentation this evening. 1202 01:36:05,970 --> 01:36:11,750 We, we kill it in, in basketball both our, our boys and women 1203 01:36:12,230 --> 01:36:15,690 in, in high school in the feeder systems that go all the way up there. 1204 01:36:15,690 --> 01:36:18,370 So having a place where more kids can get out there and 1205 01:36:18,370 --> 01:36:21,070 can practice, I think, is really important. 1206 01:36:22,910 --> 01:36:25,370 One thing I think about, and I know if you, if you've had 1207 01:36:25,370 --> 01:36:31,590 conversations with the schools, but, you know, off to the west that with Catherine Kerr 1208 01:36:31,590 --> 01:36:36,310 and being there, that there's a, a sizable playground that we, we go there quite often 1209 01:36:36,310 --> 01:36:40,490 and we're with my three-year-old daughter and we're quite often the only people there. 1210 01:36:41,350 --> 01:36:44,210 And then there's, you know, huge swing set of field. 1211 01:36:44,770 --> 01:36:49,390 There's probably enough space for a basketball court with a parking lot that also doesn't 1212 01:36:49,390 --> 01:36:52,970 get used to a whole lot, although I don't see it a whole lot in the weekday, so I don't know. 1213 01:36:54,270 --> 01:37:05,850 So yeah, just curious if we've engaged the school at all in having some to be able to have some sort of partnership in that space and to have amenities that benefit both. 1214 01:37:05,890 --> 01:37:07,950 Yeah, it's a timely question. 1215 01:37:07,950 --> 01:37:09,450 We met with the school district today. 1216 01:37:10,250 --> 01:37:12,730 So some history is in 2008. 1217 01:37:13,050 --> 01:37:21,690 We signed a 30 year agreement that covers the half of the hockey field, all of the tennis courts. 1218 01:37:21,690 --> 01:37:25,430 and all of the play ground to the west. 1219 01:37:26,510 --> 01:37:30,690 That we maintain it so that we can retain access 1220 01:37:30,690 --> 01:37:33,410 and we can kind of consider it part of Central Park. 1221 01:37:34,450 --> 01:37:36,830 And so if something breaks on that play ground, 1222 01:37:36,830 --> 01:37:37,650 it is public works. 1223 01:37:37,870 --> 01:37:40,050 That's ordering new parts and fixing it. 1224 01:37:40,490 --> 01:37:42,690 The tennis courts that is actually school district land. 1225 01:37:42,970 --> 01:37:46,370 We are paying $200,000. 1226 01:37:47,870 --> 01:37:52,610 $160,000 to a resurface sales tennis court that, again, is on school district land. 1227 01:37:53,670 --> 01:37:58,790 And so we actually, we can't do this plan without engagement with the school district because 1228 01:37:58,790 --> 01:38:01,150 we would be building on the school district land. 1229 01:38:01,390 --> 01:38:08,050 And so we had a conversation literally today about what is this look like when we build like 1230 01:38:08,050 --> 01:38:15,730 a brand new play ground next to a pretty ageing playground, and would they consider, could 1231 01:38:15,730 --> 01:38:27,570 We consider that the new playground for that school, and then, you know, look to remove that playground eventually and stop maintaining it because we'd like to stop maintaining it if possible if we're going to build a brand new playground. 1232 01:38:28,230 --> 01:38:36,770 The challenge with that is that the school district who owns that building currently has attended in it that tenant is a high school, so they're not using a playground. 1233 01:38:36,770 --> 01:38:43,070 But I think they're still in the middle of some conversations about what the future of that property looks like. 1234 01:38:43,110 --> 01:38:47,930 You know, they've talked, they think in the past of would we consider selling it to someone at that point. 1235 01:38:47,970 --> 01:38:55,450 The city would have first rate of refusal so we could acquire the pieces that we consider part of Central Park as part of that agreement. 1236 01:38:57,010 --> 01:39:04,530 But they're, you know, they're definitely considering options of like, is there ever a need for that as an elementary school again in the future? 1237 01:39:05,190 --> 01:39:09,090 And what that would look like and the changes that would result as a part of that. 1238 01:39:09,450 --> 01:39:15,930 So they told us that we should kind of put together some actions of what it would look like for us to move forward with that. 1239 01:39:15,930 --> 01:39:20,740 And that in the next six to eight weeks they likely know the a little bit clearer sense of the future on that. 1240 01:39:22,350 --> 01:39:27,630 You know, I think that while there is that existing playground again to that and you use it all the time. 1241 01:39:27,630 --> 01:39:31,470 So, you know, it doesn't, it itself is not accessible. 1242 01:39:31,790 --> 01:39:32,430 It's not updated. 1243 01:39:32,570 --> 01:39:35,710 And so, I think we would not let that hinder us 1244 01:39:35,710 --> 01:39:38,990 from proposing another playground there, 1245 01:39:39,010 --> 01:39:40,750 even though they'd be next to each other. 1246 01:39:41,630 --> 01:39:44,850 Because we, we likely wouldn't replace 1247 01:39:44,850 --> 01:39:47,590 or participate in their replacement of the playground 1248 01:39:47,590 --> 01:39:48,890 at Catherine Kern. 1249 01:39:49,730 --> 01:39:52,130 You know, one of the things that, you know, 1250 01:39:52,370 --> 01:39:54,730 there could be a completely future use of this word 1251 01:39:54,730 --> 01:39:56,650 that tight gets sold and is evolved 1252 01:39:56,650 --> 01:39:59,950 in the housing, right? And so I think we want to be future thinking now. 1253 01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:04,940 We don't control that site and we don't have a sense of how the school district might move ahead with that. 1254 01:40:05,980 --> 01:40:14,240 So, but we are in conversation, they seem to pretty open to that as a way to move forward would be to kind of, just kind of, 1255 01:40:14,240 --> 01:40:22,300 just kind of eat their idea of what the school is in the same way that we consider the park that west they might consider the school a little more east. 1256 01:40:22,920 --> 01:40:25,120 And they were really excited about basketball there as well. 1257 01:40:25,420 --> 01:40:26,740 So, great. Thank you. 1258 01:40:26,740 --> 01:40:27,380 Yeah. 1259 01:40:28,900 --> 01:40:29,580 Any more comments? 1260 01:40:30,740 --> 01:40:34,140 You know, with that play area, I was thinking you can kind of accommodate 1261 01:40:34,660 --> 01:40:37,940 and have them work together, because you know, in the new one, you're going to have a 1262 01:40:37,940 --> 01:40:38,460 Zipline. 1263 01:40:38,920 --> 01:40:40,960 I'm going to have a Zipline. 1264 01:40:41,120 --> 01:40:44,200 I'll go and record for all the fourth graders I talk to. 1265 01:40:44,460 --> 01:40:52,660 But I do like how you reuse some of these existing amenities, like the tennis, pickleball, 1266 01:40:52,660 --> 01:41:01,300 the hockey wiffleball port. I think that there's a lot of people that use that today, so I think 1267 01:41:01,300 --> 01:41:08,360 it's great to incorporate that. And then I just, you know, this gets in the details, but 1268 01:41:08,360 --> 01:41:14,600 it does say that one of the top amenities is lighting. So obviously lighting along the paths and 1269 01:41:14,600 --> 01:41:20,840 everything is that new lighting also for the softball fields in the soccer field. Because I think 1270 01:41:20,840 --> 01:41:24,800 currently, they only have one softball field that's lit and it's all lighting. 1271 01:41:25,960 --> 01:41:31,020 Yeah, Colton, remember Hunky, I think that we're still at a higher level of design than that, 1272 01:41:31,020 --> 01:41:34,860 but we have heard that of what, you know, could be like the soccer field that's going to 1273 01:41:34,860 --> 01:41:39,200 allow us to rent it out for longer and there is a need to replace and update the lighting for 1274 01:41:39,200 --> 01:41:43,740 the softball field. So, I think we would be silly to not make some of those choices. We have, 1275 01:41:44,000 --> 01:41:49,480 we're not showing it at this level of plan detail, but I do know that that's been brought up 1276 01:41:49,480 --> 01:41:53,240 because, you know, the longer that we can light it, especially in those shoulder season, 1277 01:41:53,740 --> 01:41:58,800 to have people out and being able to use it, we really want to be able to do that and leverage 1278 01:41:58,800 --> 01:42:04,340 that rentable space. And then I heard too and you've already talked about this, but trying to find 1279 01:42:04,340 --> 01:42:10,460 what ways to put in permanent restrooms that are too. I was talking to somebody the other night 1280 01:42:10,460 --> 01:42:17,200 and that was kind of one big. Yeah, right now we're showing probably an expanded permanent 1281 01:42:17,200 --> 01:42:24,600 rest room up in the upper right hand corner, that I think is, you know, that's one option 1282 01:42:24,600 --> 01:42:29,940 or closer to the play area. I think we're just trying to figure that out as we continue to 1283 01:42:29,940 --> 01:42:37,720 refine the design, but we've heard that a lot. So thank you. Yeah, I like the, uh, the sunken 1284 01:42:37,720 --> 01:42:42,920 soccer field, the concept. I think it's great too. Um, thank you for saving the wifful ball field. Uh, 1285 01:42:42,920 --> 01:42:48,400 I know how big whiffle ball was in the city of Hopkins until my kids started going and I don't 1286 01:42:48,400 --> 01:42:49,900 know Brian if you're kids to go. 1287 01:42:50,480 --> 01:42:54,180 They have a national tournament and there's hundreds, you know, an eating in different places, 1288 01:42:54,580 --> 01:43:00,040 like, it's the vibes, the aces, the chowawas, it's a really big deal and they play here and 1289 01:43:00,040 --> 01:43:02,660 he, and he, and he, and he, and he, and then I know the kids love that. 1290 01:43:02,960 --> 01:43:06,220 I didn't, I didn't know, and I wouldn't have known that had they, not had the kids in the 1291 01:43:06,220 --> 01:43:08,200 in the age of going and flock to it. 1292 01:43:09,140 --> 01:43:10,140 It's a HRL. 1293 01:43:10,160 --> 01:43:10,820 That's what it's called. 1294 01:43:10,820 --> 01:43:13,600 If you Google that, you'll see all the teams that are involved with it. 1295 01:43:13,900 --> 01:43:18,060 That's used a lot. I didn't know that until then I've reminded me here. 1296 01:43:18,460 --> 01:43:22,320 I like the Lake amenities on there. It's not Lake the Big Ponds, right? 1297 01:43:23,300 --> 01:43:24,160 Lake Leila. 1298 01:43:25,820 --> 01:43:26,700 I think... 1299 01:43:26,700 --> 01:43:28,200 I will accept that as the name of it. 1300 01:43:28,860 --> 01:43:30,160 I can't accept it. 1301 01:43:30,440 --> 01:43:31,220 We can't accept it. 1302 01:43:32,960 --> 01:43:38,360 Bringing the kids back to nature or the people back to nature and see those things and, you know, 1303 01:43:38,360 --> 01:43:44,600 of things of like this is what this is and this is what it does, educational components, I think are awesome. 1304 01:43:45,280 --> 01:43:46,200 Yeah, thanks. 1305 01:43:46,660 --> 01:43:54,080 I was going to see something similar about like the stormwater aspects of this, because I'm a big fan of that. 1306 01:43:54,160 --> 01:43:56,120 I like seeing that that's implemented as part of this. 1307 01:43:56,620 --> 01:44:01,200 And I like the idea of putting like educational signage out there so that kids can kind of learn what it is and what it does. 1308 01:44:01,520 --> 01:44:03,460 So this is overall just very cool. I really like it. 1309 01:44:04,320 --> 01:44:16,220 Yeah, and I can't express enough how much NIMEIL Creek, they literally paid an architect or a landscape architect to do a preliminary version of this with, like, without even talking to us. 1310 01:44:16,360 --> 01:44:20,600 But we're like, let's just figure out what it would look like, and if the city would want to do this. 1311 01:44:21,260 --> 01:44:27,320 I'm brought a preliminary version of this, and we have not traded that far away from that first drying by bar. 1312 01:44:27,320 --> 01:44:36,680 And I didn't even really call it out, but a six and five and six in the lower right hand corner would be some of that educational signage in a real sight for that had waters. 1313 01:44:37,960 --> 01:44:38,420 So. 1314 01:44:38,420 --> 01:44:40,520 You'd be a lot of softballs in that water. 1315 01:44:42,380 --> 01:44:43,680 Often over the last. 1316 01:44:46,060 --> 01:44:47,460 I have a few questions. 1317 01:44:47,980 --> 01:44:57,300 The first question I had, I realized we're not obviously voting on this tonight, but like, do you have like kind of just from what you've heard from Park Borden all that kind of like a proposed timeline for this? 1318 01:44:57,300 --> 01:44:59,960 Also, like potentially like what the costs mean. 1319 01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:29,860 May or may not entail. And then I was also really curious, one of the earlier slides that you presented, where I think it was based on a survey for the public. It had talked about like the number of things like that people were kind of looking for for this. And I guess I was really kind of surprised to see that people were looking at potentially improvements or redesigns for the pavilion, given that that had just been improved in 2018. Can you maybe share a little bit about what people were maybe suggesting or hoping to see with, you know, 1320 01:45:29,860 --> 01:45:32,520 with improvements in the final thing that I had 1321 01:45:33,180 --> 01:45:35,440 is did a dog park ever come up at all in this 1322 01:45:35,440 --> 01:45:36,360 in this redeveloped. 1323 01:45:36,520 --> 01:45:37,980 Because that's, you've got so much here. 1324 01:45:38,120 --> 01:45:39,420 I love most of what's here, 1325 01:45:39,580 --> 01:45:41,180 but would love to also see a dog park. 1326 01:45:41,820 --> 01:45:42,260 Great. 1327 01:45:42,840 --> 01:45:44,120 I will start with dog park. 1328 01:45:44,400 --> 01:45:48,260 So no, I don't think this is appropriate site 1329 01:45:48,260 --> 01:45:50,560 for a dog park just given that we're planning to do a lot 1330 01:45:50,560 --> 01:45:52,620 of stormwater and water quality improvements. 1331 01:45:53,140 --> 01:45:56,720 And Pat Waste is one of the biggest contributors 1332 01:45:56,720 --> 01:46:04,100 to force your water quality, but there's just also a real lack of space to do an improvement like 1333 01:46:04,100 --> 01:46:09,320 that, so we do here every day, all day, anytime I talk to Parks, that have conceived the 1334 01:46:09,320 --> 01:46:13,920 dog park. And we do have some preliminary sites for that in the master park system plan, 1335 01:46:14,020 --> 01:46:21,360 so we do show a small potential dog park at Valley Park, and then a larger dog park at Hilltop Park. 1336 01:46:21,360 --> 01:46:29,300 those are spaces that have some pretty wide underutilized field spaces that we would love to 1337 01:46:29,300 --> 01:46:34,800 move forward with the dog park in those areas and they're a little bit better suited for that. 1338 01:46:35,480 --> 01:46:42,260 There's just not a place in this park to do a dog park dog park need to be really one to two 1339 01:46:42,260 --> 01:46:49,030 acres is the best size for them. So it's just really not the right size and scale for something like that. 1340 01:46:50,050 --> 01:46:54,830 The pavilion question about pavilion updates, remember goodland. 1341 01:46:55,790 --> 01:47:00,450 We are in the process of doing a pavilion feasibility study that was approved in conjunction 1342 01:47:00,450 --> 01:47:05,990 with this contract, but will not make for the rest of the central park project. 1343 01:47:06,230 --> 01:47:11,870 That was also a part of the master park system plan is that we continuously hear the need 1344 01:47:11,870 --> 01:47:15,970 for more community space, but specifically more ice time. 1345 01:47:15,970 --> 01:47:20,450 Each YHA is constantly asking to have more ice. 1346 01:47:20,610 --> 01:47:23,210 We only have one sheet of ice, and it's only half time. 1347 01:47:23,390 --> 01:47:26,030 It's a very short season from September to February, 1348 01:47:26,990 --> 01:47:31,470 and that is booked almost every hour of the day. 1349 01:47:32,070 --> 01:47:34,290 So there is a real demand for more ice, 1350 01:47:34,290 --> 01:47:36,590 and so that's sort of the driving factor behind this 1351 01:47:36,590 --> 01:47:39,090 is can we get to full-time ice year round? 1352 01:47:39,890 --> 01:47:42,790 Well, also retaining some of the most, 1353 01:47:42,790 --> 01:47:45,670 I think, profitable portions of the pavilion, 1354 01:47:45,670 --> 01:47:51,930 which is field space into a field space like turf pots, soccer, birthday parties, some of those 1355 01:47:51,930 --> 01:47:58,170 things that happen, the sports camps that happen in the February 2 September is just as profitable 1356 01:47:58,170 --> 01:48:05,450 as the ice and so how do we do both? And so that is what we have JLG architecture and their 1357 01:48:05,450 --> 01:48:11,310 partners, Balard King, working on a market analysis to understand, you know, some time whether 1358 01:48:11,310 --> 01:48:16,570 some five years or 15 years, what does it look like to add that amenity as well as other 1359 01:48:16,570 --> 01:48:22,430 amenities like a walking track or fitness equipment in this space. So we definitely hear that 1360 01:48:22,430 --> 01:48:28,670 desire that the billion, when we did that renovation in 2015, there were conversations about making 1361 01:48:28,670 --> 01:48:33,530 it big enough bigger than it currently is and the console of that time shows not to do that just 1362 01:48:33,530 --> 01:48:41,210 given the costs for that, but we're feeling that the crunch of not making it bigger already 1363 01:48:41,210 --> 01:48:44,970 as we think about that rebellion space as it currently stands. 1364 01:48:45,130 --> 01:48:49,610 I'll pause because we didn't really talk much about that pavilion feasibility study. Do consumers 1365 01:48:49,610 --> 01:48:51,310 have any other questions about the pavilion? 1366 01:48:52,690 --> 01:48:59,190 No, I would just back that up that we have received a considerable amount of feedback from the 1367 01:48:59,190 --> 01:49:10,490 folks that use that facility, that it's not only not only just the size, but also like the PA system and other aspects of it compared to other hockey rings. 1368 01:49:10,930 --> 01:49:18,090 Yeah, and I will say HWAJ isn't coming to us with nothing. They have money that they really want to be a financial partner in that investment. 1369 01:49:18,350 --> 01:49:27,170 Could we choose to make that happen? So we have a really active and engaged participant in the idea of of expand. 1370 01:49:28,410 --> 01:49:39,190 So, the final question is on cost, and if it's all right, and we don't have any more questions from the other council members, I can move into my additional slides on funding and timeline. 1371 01:49:40,150 --> 01:49:51,250 So, this is what you're looking at is not the cleanest we can make the spark. 1372 01:49:51,250 --> 01:49:57,490 I think we tried as strict a balance in terms of remediating soil and doing flooding storage 1373 01:49:57,490 --> 01:49:59,890 to a point that seemed cost-peasy. 1374 01:50:00,640 --> 01:50:29,980 So I feel like a correct assessment. Yeah, thank you, Leila. So again, Mike Waltman, the Bolton Make, of course. I mean, the regulated soils on this site, when it's used as a landfill, go down 30 feet. And so what we're talking about in terms of cost is trying to get at or make sure we account for removal of any of those soils that we do happen to encounter. So in the case of, say, the sunken soccer field, we're down about 10 feet across the, obviously, the area of a soccer field. And we're looking at funding pursuits to 1375 01:50:29,980 --> 01:50:37,320 to go after stormwater storage that we can benefit the surrounding area with with that, but then 1376 01:50:37,320 --> 01:50:41,540 also getting rid of those soils at the same time. So we're not going to go down 30 feet to get 1377 01:50:41,540 --> 01:50:45,500 rid of everything, but we're going to make sure we do everything right. We need to and cap everything 1378 01:50:45,500 --> 01:50:52,100 appropriately for use by the public when we're done. Yeah. And so kind of knowing counsel that we 1379 01:50:52,100 --> 01:50:57,660 have to do so over mediation as well as some flooding storage, we're looking at I think a pretty 1380 01:50:57,660 --> 01:51:02,000 significant price tag. And so the design in front of you was designed to be responsive to a 1381 01:51:02,000 --> 01:51:07,680 footprint processes that I'm going to talk about. And I guess I'll move into that first. 1382 01:51:08,140 --> 01:51:13,840 So we are waiting here back on two grant processes. So one was an NPCA resilience grant of up to 1383 01:51:13,840 --> 01:51:21,960 five million dollars. That will cover some of these flooding and soil quality improvements. Additionally, 1384 01:51:21,960 --> 01:51:24,580 staff and the nine-mile Creek Watershed District 1385 01:51:24,580 --> 01:51:29,320 have applied to the Minnesota Clean Water Fund for funding 1386 01:51:29,320 --> 01:51:33,500 that would either come through a grant, a low interest 1387 01:51:33,500 --> 01:51:36,420 loan, and or a forgivable loan. 1388 01:51:37,280 --> 01:51:40,220 The challenge with that clean water grant fund is that the amount 1389 01:51:40,220 --> 01:51:41,080 is sort of unknown. 1390 01:51:41,300 --> 01:51:45,760 You apply and they sort of tell you based on what other 1391 01:51:45,760 --> 01:51:48,140 available funding and what other projects are ready. 1392 01:51:48,140 --> 01:51:54,620 And so the project kind of ready list is what we are working to apply to. 1393 01:51:55,280 --> 01:51:57,660 There are some items to get on that list. 1394 01:51:57,920 --> 01:52:03,640 We initially applied to be accepted onto the list of projects that are sort of shovel ready for funding. 1395 01:52:04,400 --> 01:52:07,580 We made it through that first round and they said they really like our project. 1396 01:52:07,720 --> 01:52:09,260 They're really excited to add our project. 1397 01:52:09,640 --> 01:52:15,120 The Clean Water Fund component would only cover the flooding aspects of the project. 1398 01:52:15,120 --> 01:52:28,220 They wouldn't cover any of the amenities or any of the soil remediation, whereas the resilience grant would cover flooding and soil remediation, leaving the rest of the amenity work for the city to cover. 1399 01:52:28,840 --> 01:52:33,540 9-mile creek is also put money in their CIP to invest into this project. 1400 01:52:34,740 --> 01:52:40,700 But at this point, we're waiting on both of those funding opportunities to have a firmer sense of what this park will look like. 1401 01:52:40,700 --> 01:52:45,440 because should we not receive funding in either of those? This design will change the 1402 01:52:45,440 --> 01:52:51,540 sunken soccer field will probably be one of the items that is removed to be able to reduce the cost 1403 01:52:51,540 --> 01:52:58,900 on this. We are initial estimate for this is $11 million. So it is substantial and a lot of 1404 01:52:58,900 --> 01:53:04,720 that comes from soil remediation because to be able to do anything here, we need to clean up 1405 01:53:04,720 --> 01:53:10,060 the situation that has come before us. We know that had it been county also has some funding that 1406 01:53:10,060 --> 01:53:15,700 maybe able to go after to do some of the cleanup here. The watershed district at this time has 1407 01:53:15,700 --> 01:53:22,220 committed a million dollars into the project. But it's a big undertaking and if we were to get 1408 01:53:22,220 --> 01:53:29,660 the five million dollars from the MPCA, that's a much less scary number. And if we aren't able 1409 01:53:29,660 --> 01:53:36,660 to secure that funding, we're going to have to scale back this design to be responsive to only 1410 01:53:36,660 --> 01:53:42,720 being on the PPL list. The nice thing about the PPL list is that the low interest funding that we 1411 01:53:42,720 --> 01:53:48,820 can get the low funding from them is 20% forgivable and then it's a lower interest rate than we 1412 01:53:48,820 --> 01:53:56,020 would be able to bond for. So we could take out the infrastructure components for flooding through 1413 01:53:56,020 --> 01:54:02,660 that. But it's a little bit of a mystery of how much money we would receive from that. So we're 1414 01:54:02,660 --> 01:54:07,800 in a little bit of a folding pattern at this point until we hear back on both of those processes, 1415 01:54:08,500 --> 01:54:13,800 how much money would be available to this city. And then from there, I think we'll kind of 1416 01:54:13,800 --> 01:54:18,540 refine and go into what was already planned as our second round of engagement over the summer. 1417 01:54:20,540 --> 01:54:24,960 We do have some items that are going to come forward as part of that clean water fund 1418 01:54:24,960 --> 01:54:30,980 PPL list. So on May 6th, we have to have a public hearing for the storm water plan. So the storm 1419 01:54:30,980 --> 01:54:32,920 water elements that are shown here, 1420 01:54:33,000 --> 01:54:35,180 bar is working to put that into a plan. 1421 01:54:35,800 --> 01:54:36,960 Another shout out to NIMA, 1422 01:54:37,020 --> 01:54:38,580 Creek Watershed District Air Pain, 1423 01:54:38,740 --> 01:54:41,060 for bar to do this over and above engineering 1424 01:54:41,060 --> 01:54:43,500 to pursue funding for this. 1425 01:54:43,760 --> 01:54:46,720 So I just cannot stress in us how wonderful of a partner 1426 01:54:46,720 --> 01:54:49,180 they have been to us in this process. 1427 01:54:50,340 --> 01:54:52,680 And then we will be on that list. 1428 01:54:52,960 --> 01:54:54,500 And as funding comes up, 1429 01:54:54,500 --> 01:54:56,160 I think we're going to be pretty high on the list 1430 01:54:56,160 --> 01:54:57,200 because we're pretty ready. 1431 01:54:57,560 --> 01:54:59,840 And they don't see a lot of projects like this. 1432 01:54:59,840 --> 01:54:59,900 . 1433 01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:08,840 We're excited about it. But it's sort of an ambiguous process. I'm not sure if you want to share anything more on kind of the uniqueness of it. 1434 01:55:08,880 --> 01:55:14,800 I think you've done a great job covering it. Yeah, there's layers to this and what you do and what you don't want to. 1435 01:55:14,860 --> 01:55:21,060 I think that's what makes it unique. It's not quite as linear. Obviously, a little sense to a street project. 1436 01:55:21,340 --> 01:55:29,660 But there's different pieces you could take out or add that have different benefit to different parts of the public and the downstream infrastructure and things. 1437 01:55:29,660 --> 01:55:34,280 So yeah, I think you covered it well and we're going to see what happens as we go through 1438 01:55:34,280 --> 01:55:34,820 the process. 1439 01:55:34,900 --> 01:55:37,960 Right here back on the summer and fall on some of these programs and we're going to 1440 01:55:37,960 --> 01:55:41,920 think said, which are some degree dependent on how much legislature funds and others 1441 01:55:41,920 --> 01:55:44,400 part of already attributed funding to those programs. 1442 01:55:45,280 --> 01:55:49,880 And I think our process has been to move slowly and move responsibly to grant funding. 1443 01:55:50,040 --> 01:55:53,940 That's out there so that we wouldn't bear the full cost of this as the city. 1444 01:55:54,340 --> 01:55:58,820 You know, we did not make the conditions of this park. 1445 01:55:58,820 --> 01:56:06,320 But we do want to improve them, and so we had planned to be a little bit ahead of where we are right now 1446 01:56:06,320 --> 01:56:14,340 But we've slowed down and adjusted kind of our expectations so that we could kind of one time moonshot apply for the MPCA funds 1447 01:56:14,340 --> 01:56:20,780 We might not get 5 million. We might get nothing. We might get a portion of that. I think we should know some time and may 1448 01:56:20,780 --> 01:56:26,920 So this will this is the first of probably a few more times that you'll see this come forward as we 1449 01:56:26,920 --> 01:56:30,340 know more about the funding situation as an NSV 1450 01:56:30,340 --> 01:56:35,100 continued to refine it, you know, in addition to kind of the 1451 01:56:35,100 --> 01:56:39,300 stacking of grant funds, nine mile fee funds, loan funds. 1452 01:56:40,080 --> 01:56:42,380 This is something that we can bond for. 1453 01:56:43,000 --> 01:56:45,860 Sorry to bring that up right after, right after Nick. 1454 01:56:46,500 --> 01:56:48,720 But we can pay for the bonds using 1455 01:56:48,720 --> 01:56:52,260 part dedication funds. And so we do have a number of funds that are 1456 01:56:52,260 --> 01:56:56,800 have not yet been collected because they have not needed to split 1457 01:56:56,800 --> 01:57:00,000 there are lots like trilogy or, you know, 1458 01:57:00,020 --> 01:57:02,580 should something continue to move at 325's Blake 1459 01:57:02,580 --> 01:57:04,160 that's like leading you to be split 1460 01:57:04,160 --> 01:57:05,700 and pay park dedication fees. 1461 01:57:05,900 --> 01:57:08,760 So we project that there are gonna be some fees 1462 01:57:08,760 --> 01:57:11,160 that come into the city over the next five years. 1463 01:57:11,580 --> 01:57:14,180 And so even if we bonded for some of these improvements, 1464 01:57:14,440 --> 01:57:18,040 we could pay ourselves back through park dedication fees. 1465 01:57:19,260 --> 01:57:22,800 And so I think that we are just continuing to be creative 1466 01:57:22,800 --> 01:57:26,020 about how we do this so that we can afford to do 1467 01:57:26,020 --> 01:57:30,260 but I think we'll be a really amazing project 1468 01:57:30,260 --> 01:57:33,740 that's once it's complete that accomplishes a lot of our goals. 1469 01:57:38,330 --> 01:57:40,950 So that's all I have. 1470 01:57:41,330 --> 01:57:43,010 Do we have any more questions about this? 1471 01:57:43,850 --> 01:57:44,590 I'll bring this. 1472 01:57:44,730 --> 01:57:48,250 Let's say a big thank you to all of you for putting this together, 1473 01:57:48,450 --> 01:57:50,490 but also not my Creek Watershed district 1474 01:57:50,490 --> 01:57:52,350 for being such a great partner. 1475 01:57:52,550 --> 01:57:56,690 I mean, they're great partners on small projects across there, 1476 01:57:56,690 --> 01:58:02,810 water shed in our city in terms of getting people grants grant programs and to be able to step up. 1477 01:58:02,810 --> 01:58:09,330 It's not a huge watershed so we'll be able to step up into this program is great to have that kind of partnership. 1478 01:58:12,010 --> 01:58:15,430 And then I'm glad that you're talking about leveraging relationships. 1479 01:58:15,890 --> 01:58:18,630 We just have to do that here in order to save costs. 1480 01:58:20,170 --> 01:58:29,570 And then utilizing park dedication fees, I mean, I think this is a keystone of our parks system of this new park plan. 1481 01:58:30,110 --> 01:58:32,810 And so to get this one right, I think is really important. 1482 01:58:33,230 --> 01:58:38,670 In fact, I think you've had to, I don't know, I think of parks like the downtown park. 1483 01:58:39,650 --> 01:58:48,610 That's as high on my priority list of addressing issues at that park is in from a lot of folks that I'm hearing from is making sure that we get something like this. 1484 01:58:48,610 --> 01:58:54,450 done, done right and so if it takes consolidating efforts to be able to bring this forward, 1485 01:58:54,510 --> 01:58:56,270 I'd be all in favor of it. 1486 01:58:59,720 --> 01:59:00,760 Any comments from council? 1487 01:59:05,340 --> 01:59:09,240 All right, there's no motion on this, so thank you for bringing this report forward. 1488 01:59:09,800 --> 01:59:10,580 Thank you. Thanks. 1489 01:59:15,090 --> 01:59:17,550 All right. Where are we? 1490 01:59:23,810 --> 01:59:31,550 public comments. I don't think we haven't. 1491 01:59:36,920 --> 01:59:39,100 Good evening, Mayor and council members, Charles 1492 01:59:39,100 --> 01:59:45,300 Hendrix, 3, 2, 3, 11th Avenue North. Two quick points. One, I want to thank you because 1493 01:59:45,300 --> 01:59:51,440 I don't think we do that often enough for your service and for the work of our city employees 1494 01:59:51,440 --> 01:59:55,240 to help make this a good place to live. This meeting tonight is 1495 01:59:55,240 --> 01:59:59,500 a joy to watch as people with good hearts. 1496 02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:24,600 Sweat out the details of governance and democracy. So I appreciate that. My second point is, I think we live in perilous times when we have a person in the White House who does not share the same enjoyment of rules and rule of law due process or even faith in the U.S. Constitution. 1497 02:00:25,620 --> 02:00:36,860 And my fear is that eventually this person will even come after small towns like Hopkins or whatever federal funding we may have or whatever programs we may have. 1498 02:00:37,100 --> 02:00:47,280 And I urge you when that comes to to stand up to that and to stand up for the principles of this city and be true to that you will have my support. 1499 02:00:47,280 --> 02:00:53,200 And again I thank you for your leadership in helping make this a good place to live. 1500 02:00:53,540 --> 02:00:55,020 So that's it. Thank you so much. 1501 02:00:55,460 --> 02:00:56,660 Thank you for this comments 1502 02:00:59,920 --> 02:01:04,020 and I do easy get into commenting back and forth with people 1503 02:01:04,020 --> 02:01:07,640 coming to comment but I just want to thank you for your patience. Holy cow, that was a long 1504 02:01:07,640 --> 02:01:10,620 meeting to go through. So thank you. 1505 02:01:11,940 --> 02:01:15,260 All right, do we have any announcements this evening? 1506 02:01:16,830 --> 02:01:38,830 Yes, sorry. Okay, so I just wanted to address my fellow council members and let everyone up here know that at the end of last last week's special council meeting that I did in fact hand our city clerk a check for a partial reimbursement for the DC conference fees. 1507 02:01:38,830 --> 02:01:47,670 Um, and um, I think I've pretty clearly outlined in previous meetings, um, as to, you know, why my travel, I couldn't have changed and whatnot. 1508 02:01:48,390 --> 02:01:55,170 Um, and I just want to also, you know, put this out there, too, that, you know, nobody is forcing me or making me do this, you know, at all. 1509 02:01:55,350 --> 02:02:03,510 This is something that I came to on my own, uh, but, um, you know, and we don't have formal policies on this either, but you know, I just feel like this was the morally correct. 1510 02:02:03,510 --> 02:02:17,270 We'll get that I attended, you know, less than the fall conference so I want you to know that and they emailed me earlier today, just saying that the city had accepted it, so that is it. So I hope to move forward beyond that. 1511 02:02:17,530 --> 02:02:18,010 Thank you. 1512 02:02:21,430 --> 02:02:32,410 I just think about the fact that we had our we had a net zero, one of the few net zero developments came forward in the state of Minnesota last week that's that we're considering here really proud of that. 1513 02:02:32,410 --> 02:02:38,570 we're a tree city, USA, green steps, five city, we're late all the new each street and the 1514 02:02:38,570 --> 02:02:42,650 Twin Cities business journal. We've had the lowest tax on the levy increases in Hennep 1515 02:02:42,650 --> 02:02:47,690 and County in the last four years. We have developers wanting to come here, left and right 1516 02:02:47,690 --> 02:02:52,010 to find spots to develop. It's a place that people want to move. They want to do business. 1517 02:02:52,710 --> 02:02:57,630 I've been here my whole life. I've never seen this city this busy. It's just incredible 1518 02:02:57,630 --> 02:03:03,410 to see the people that are bustling on a Thursday night, this place is just bustling with people 1519 02:03:03,410 --> 02:03:07,430 and I've never seen that growing up. It's just a great time to be here in Hopkins. 1520 02:03:07,930 --> 02:03:12,730 We've historic part plan that we just talked about tonight. Having walkable, first-class 1521 02:03:12,730 --> 02:03:18,210 parks close to everyone. We have the lowest crime in the history of Hopkins since we've started 1522 02:03:18,210 --> 02:03:25,370 recording back in 1990, I think. We have paid backers day. Food truck festival is coming 1523 02:03:25,370 --> 02:03:30,830 Raspberry Festival is around the corner and Raspberry Festival is getting bigger and bigger every year. 1524 02:03:31,830 --> 02:03:38,470 It looks like the state fair when you look down Main Street and the end, it just packed and then the concert afterwards. 1525 02:03:38,730 --> 02:03:44,670 It's just we are in a growing thriving city with three LRT stops that are coming here. 1526 02:03:44,870 --> 02:03:46,310 That's going to bring change as well. 1527 02:03:46,430 --> 02:03:53,450 And I think this council, this staff, our community is part of holding the reins of that change as it comes to Hopkins 1528 02:03:53,450 --> 02:03:58,650 and making sure that this is still remains an awesome place to live, an awesome place to work. 1529 02:03:59,330 --> 02:04:03,450 And I just want to say, I want to focus on that, I want this council to be focused on 1530 02:04:03,450 --> 02:04:03,690 that. 1531 02:04:03,830 --> 02:04:07,930 We have incredible challenges, you know, changes in government. 1532 02:04:08,990 --> 02:04:14,490 We have incredible challenges coming to the city and we need to focus on the problems in front 1533 02:04:14,490 --> 02:04:14,850 of us. 1534 02:04:14,950 --> 02:04:19,670 I really love for us to be focused on that fully, fully next meeting. 1535 02:04:20,890 --> 02:04:27,830 And with that, our next city council regular meeting is Tuesday, May 6th and May 20th at 6 30 p.m. 1536 02:04:28,750 --> 02:04:30,830 Do we have anything else before we adjourn? 1537 02:04:34,110 --> 02:04:34,930 I have a motion to adjourn. 1538 02:04:35,530 --> 02:04:35,850 I'll move. 1539 02:04:36,050 --> 02:04:36,750 Have a second. 1540 02:04:37,250 --> 02:04:37,730 Second. 1541 02:04:37,970 --> 02:04:38,810 I'm going to say aye. 1542 02:04:39,130 --> 02:04:39,530 Aye.