1 00:00:36,160 --> 00:00:43,440 to see everyone tonight. We're good to go. Okay. Welcome, uh, 2 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:48,960 Horn County Council. I'm going to call this meeting to order at 6:01 p.m. And 3 00:00:46,480 --> 00:00:50,960 I'll call upon Deputy Mayor Perah for the indigenous land acknowledgement, 4 00:00:50,399 --> 00:00:55,020 please. >> Thank you, Mayor. The council of the 5 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:59,039 corporation of the township of harm pit [clears throat] would like to begin by 6 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:06,159 respectfully acknowledging that the land we gather here today is the treaty 9 7 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:11,600 1905 from 1906 territory, the traditional lands of indigenous peoples. 8 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:16,080 As we work towards reconciliation, may we all live with respect on this 9 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:19,360 land and live in peace and friendship with all its diverse peoples. 10 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:24,400 » Thank you. review and note any changes the agenda. 11 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:28,479 There is one addition uh 12.2 the council discussion for bell fiber. Uh 12 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:33,280 this just came up because we had a meeting this week and uh we only have 13 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:36,880 one meeting for next month. So if I can get a mover and a seconder to approve 14 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:40,560 the agenda. Moved by councelor John Perov, second by councelor Peter 15 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:44,560 Kissmaker. Be it resolved that council does hereby approve the agenda as 16 00:01:42,159 --> 00:01:48,640 presented. Those in favor and that is carried. Declaration of peciniary 17 00:01:46,960 --> 00:01:52,960 interest, declaration of conflict of interest. Council, you can do that at 18 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:57,119 any time if such uh situation arises. I don't have any par paperwork right now. 19 00:01:55,439 --> 00:02:01,920 And we have the Hornpian Housing Corporation's annual general meeting 20 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:08,000 tonight, which is pretty exciting. And um if I can get a seconder to uh and 21 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:11,920 a motion and a second, a mover and a seconder, please, to open the meeting. 22 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:15,440 Moved by councelor Belinda Kissmaker, second by councelor Peter Kissermaker. 23 00:02:13,920 --> 00:02:21,040 Be it resolved that council does hereby enter into the annual general meeting of 24 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:25,840 the Hornpane Housing Corporation at 6:03 p.m. Those in favor? And that is 25 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:30,720 carried. And um I'm going to call it to order 26 00:02:28,879 --> 00:02:34,879 first if I can get a mover and a seconder, 27 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:39,840 please. Move by John Councelor John Caroff. Second by councelor Dylinder. Be 28 00:02:37,519 --> 00:02:43,760 it resolved that the the 2026th annual general meeting of the Hornpane Housing 29 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:48,239 Corporation is hereby called to order at 6:03 p.m. And be it further resolved 30 00:02:45,920 --> 00:02:52,720 that the council of the of the township of Horn does now sit as the sole 31 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:56,239 shareholder of HHC for the purposes of conducting business of the annual 32 00:02:54,800 --> 00:03:00,800 general meeting in accordance with corporations bylaws and the Ontario 33 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:05,319 Business Corporations Act. Those in favor and that is carried. 34 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:11,680 Okay. Next item on the agenda is the approval of the minutes from August 13, 35 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:15,760 2025. If I can get a mover and a seconder, please. Moved by councelor 36 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:20,640 John Perov. Second by councelor Peter Ktomaker. Be it further resolved that 37 00:03:17,920 --> 00:03:24,720 the council of the the council of the township of pain does now sit as the 38 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:28,319 sole shareholder of the HHC for the purposes of conducting business of the 39 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:32,319 annual general meeting in accordance with the corporation's bylaws and the 40 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:37,120 Ontario business and the Ontario business corporations act. Sorry, I read 41 00:03:34,799 --> 00:03:41,680 the wrong one and no one stopped me in all of that. [laughter] 42 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:48,239 » I did. Um, and why I did that was I had a question. Can John need it if um he 43 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:50,959 was not here at that meeting? >> If he's not on the minutes. 44 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:54,799 » Yeah. >> Uh, no. 45 00:03:52,000 --> 00:04:00,000 » No. Okay. So, if I can get a second, uh, Peter, [laughter] if we can change that 46 00:03:56,799 --> 00:04:03,040 up for Peter Hmaker to be the And now I'll read the correct [clears throat] 47 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:06,879 motion. Be it resolved that council sitting as the sole shareholder of the 48 00:04:04,959 --> 00:04:10,560 Hornpane Housing Corporation hereby approve the minutes of the annual 49 00:04:08,159 --> 00:04:16,320 general meeting held on August 13, 2025 as presented. Any uh question on those 50 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:21,519 minutes or changes? There being none, I put that to a vote. 51 00:04:18,479 --> 00:04:25,759 Those in favor and that is carried. Okay. 52 00:04:23,840 --> 00:04:28,880 Well, it's exciting to uh be here tonight for the annual general meeting 53 00:04:27,199 --> 00:04:33,840 and I welcome Katherine Lewis, the executive director, back to council 54 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:39,040 table and um I'm glad to see the movement that has been done at Hornpane 55 00:04:36,479 --> 00:04:44,720 Housing Corporation since 2021. It's been a lot of work and uh we're 56 00:04:41,199 --> 00:04:48,000 currently in the revamp and Katherine's leading the project for the 57 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:54,080 revitalization of the Queen Street property and hopefully we'll see that up 58 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:59,040 for sale in the near future. and um and have that accomplishment under our belt. 59 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:02,720 And I do have to give a big shout out to our board. So we do have uh councelor 60 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:07,759 Blindic Kissmaker that sits on the board currently from council along with me and 61 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:12,960 um and we have three other community members that sit on our board and we 62 00:05:09,840 --> 00:05:17,840 usually have full quorum and I know that um our vice chair Greg Drew has stepped 63 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:24,800 up for me when I'm not there to chair and it's uh growing capacity in that way 64 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:30,560 as well. And I have to um speak to the growth that I've seen in 65 00:05:27,280 --> 00:05:36,960 tenants tenant management under uh Katherine's direction. There's been new 66 00:05:33,199 --> 00:05:41,600 policies uh better living conditions for our current tenants in Parkview 67 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:46,720 Apartments and uh it's it's exciting. It's exciting to see the ch when you 68 00:05:43,280 --> 00:05:50,479 think back to 2021 when we took over and not knowing how to run an apartment 69 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:56,320 building, getting the correct staff in place, negotiating good contracts and 70 00:05:53,520 --> 00:06:01,039 seeing that move forward to today. So, I want to welcome everyone to the annual 71 00:05:58,639 --> 00:06:07,039 general meeting and I'll hand it over to Katherine Lewis. 72 00:06:02,639 --> 00:06:11,600 » Hi. Um, I think um I need to be let into the meeting. Did 73 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:15,520 you try exiting and rejoining them? >> Yeah, 74 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:20,319 » because I have it so that you can do it. I 75 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:23,560 » um and I don't see Mitch either. And he 76 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:34,080 it says um someone will let you in. I can't join it from my computer because 77 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:40,319 the Wi-Fi is not working. Um the Wi-Fi is working 78 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:43,759 to But it's not working on my computer. >> Well, I mean, yeah, when I try to open 79 00:06:41,919 --> 00:06:48,080 it, it won't work. >> Okay. So, we're having some technical 80 00:06:45,280 --> 00:06:52,400 difficulties. Is that what's going on? >> Is there any way that we can share the 81 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:56,000 presentation and see if Mitch is able to join? 82 00:06:53,919 --> 00:06:59,880 » One of us has to get in there. 83 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:12,960 » Okay, no problem. It's not the time to >> Sorry. That's okay. 84 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:15,280 What is the um address of the house that you guys are working on? Is it It's on 85 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:18,759 Queen Street. >> 50 Queen 86 00:07:26,479 --> 00:07:35,039 here too. Like I think that the whoever like made the meeting has to 87 00:07:32,639 --> 00:07:39,520 » Is it Mitchovich? >> Yeah, we need to be let in. It's not 88 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:46,720 whoever made it because I Cindy was able to open it earlier for me if I can. So, 89 00:07:44,479 --> 00:07:50,560 it should be anyone who's invited and both you and Mitch were invited. So, I 90 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:56,440 don't know why it's not. Maybe it has to be same organization. 91 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:56,440 » I went to both. 92 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:10,960 » No, no worries. Let's just take our time. Make sure we get everyone 93 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:14,720 connected. Technology works great until it doesn't work, right? That's 94 00:08:12,565 --> 00:08:20,039 [laughter] it. It's our best friend until it starts. We start pulling our 95 00:08:16,319 --> 00:08:20,039 hair out because of it. 96 00:08:20,319 --> 00:08:27,030 And everyone at this council table went through CO. We know exactly all the 97 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:27,030 pains of [laughter] 98 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:36,599 » I'm trying to log in on my phone so that I can use my um data. 99 00:08:38,479 --> 00:08:45,760 I accepted that meeting today. If I log in, can I do it? 100 00:08:43,039 --> 00:08:52,399 » Likely. But I did just log in. Let me see if I can join the meeting from 101 00:08:50,560 --> 00:08:55,720 » Someone would have to let me in probably too, right? 102 00:08:56,000 --> 00:09:04,839 » No, I think I'm in something. 103 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:04,839 Yeah, I'm done. 104 00:09:08,560 --> 00:09:15,399 » I'm also >> I just admitted everyone 105 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:21,240 » and I'm leaving now. >> Thank you so much. 106 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:28,080 » There we go. Hello, Mitch. Good to see you here. 107 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:31,920 » Hello, everybody. >> I didn't realize you were online. We 108 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:37,760 just did some housekeeping items for the annual general meeting and um I've just 109 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:42,080 I did some quick opening remarks just highlighting the some of our successes 110 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:47,680 and thanking the board who diligently meets regularly and um and we usually 111 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:51,120 have full quorum and uh and I just handed it over to Katherine Lewis. So 112 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:58,800 that's where we are in the meeting. >> Okay, perfect. No problem. 113 00:09:54,000 --> 00:10:05,920 » Okay. Uh, thanks guys for leading for me. I apologize for that. 114 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:08,920 Um, I'm just going to present this full screen. 115 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:18,079 Okay. So, uh, thanks to everybody for coming to the ATM. Um, the horn every 116 00:10:15,839 --> 00:10:23,600 year we are, um, we like to take the time to come and 117 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:28,640 speak to our shareholders so we can report all the things that you you've 118 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:33,680 created us to do and you can see our progress. I'm usually here a couple 119 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:39,360 times throughout the year too, but it's always the the year it's always um a 120 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:44,640 good exercise to go back and look at everything like at what you've been able 121 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:51,040 to accomplish in the year and look at last year's report compared to this 122 00:10:46,560 --> 00:10:55,200 year's. So, um I this will be posted online on the Horane Housing Court 123 00:10:53,680 --> 00:11:01,279 website. Uh if anybody is interested in seeing 124 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:08,640 all of the the nitty-gritty details. Um so how it works 125 00:11:04,399 --> 00:11:13,839 uh the in 2021 as everyone knows the township created the HHC to support 126 00:11:11,519 --> 00:11:19,839 housing operations development preservation and the development in the 127 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:24,480 community. So with uh council, the council at the time, which pretty much 128 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:31,519 is you guys, with that foresight and with the uh insight from the housing 129 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:37,040 needs and demand study, uh they decided to create an arm length entity that 130 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:41,920 would be able to move a little bit more freely in the market um in the open 131 00:11:39,839 --> 00:11:48,320 market without having um like the 132 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:55,440 the corporation of municipality is unable to own things uh in the same way 133 00:11:51,200 --> 00:12:02,720 as a Ontario corporations is. But uh yeah, we were created with a mandate to 134 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:09,279 uh support housing and to get housing going in Horane and this was probably 135 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:15,440 the best way that the the the township could support housing. 136 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:21,920 Um we have our own board of directors. They met working times. Uh last year it 137 00:12:18,560 --> 00:12:26,560 was a pretty busy year uh meetings wise because we had so many we had a couple 138 00:12:24,560 --> 00:12:30,639 working meetings and I think a special meeting at one point. So there's a 139 00:12:28,560 --> 00:12:36,880 little bit more than the 12 that people sign up for. So I really appreciate my 140 00:12:32,639 --> 00:12:43,519 board for that. Um they I do have a very committed working board and they're a 141 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:47,920 technical board. So, they were picked because they have a lot of technical 142 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:52,720 expertise, whether it be with housing or in industry. 143 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:58,000 Uh, they're all very accomplished community members and I appreciate their 144 00:12:54,880 --> 00:13:03,200 time. I know they're very busy and they're volunteers and that's like 145 00:13:01,519 --> 00:13:07,120 they're not being paid to do any of this. So, the amount of commitment that 146 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:12,959 they they give to the HHC is is is really um 147 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:17,279 inspiring to me and makes me want to do a better job because I'm the only one 148 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:21,279 there getting paid. [laughter] Um 149 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:26,240 so, this year we did do our strategic plan and uh it's notable that we did 150 00:13:23,279 --> 00:13:31,600 update our values and our mission and our vision. 151 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:38,959 So, we did we took I did present the strategic plan to you guys earlier this 152 00:13:33,519 --> 00:13:43,360 year, but just to um say we I just wanted to highlight that our mission was 153 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:50,399 tweaked and we did spend some time on it. Uh it's kind of wordy, but we wanted 154 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:58,560 to be sure that we weren't getting um set into one servicing one priority. 155 00:13:55,839 --> 00:14:03,120 We didn't because as we all know in the community affordable housing is a major 156 00:14:00,560 --> 00:14:07,279 issue but at the same time there are people who have the money that aren't 157 00:14:04,959 --> 00:14:15,120 able to get into secure housing or to into appropriate housing and um 158 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:19,440 83% of porn painters they own their home. We don't have much of a rental 159 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:25,519 market. So like in order to address all of these 160 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:31,519 issues, we we didn't want we wanted to be sure that we were able to a remain 161 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:37,440 self- sustaining, so make money and not get pigeonhold into affordable housing 162 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:42,639 and and just not having enough to to just enough to keep the lights on. And 163 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:49,199 at the second time we wanted to the second thing is um we wanted to ensure 164 00:14:46,079 --> 00:14:55,279 that we were addressing just appropriate housing housing that people feel that 165 00:14:51,839 --> 00:15:04,240 they don't that they're grown out of and rental housing and all everything. Um 166 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:10,959 our vision and our values. Um we we do see ourselves 167 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:16,079 as uh expanding and like expanding the community's access to safe, sustainable, 168 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:21,920 and appropriate housing. And we wanted to make sure that we put inclusive in 169 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:26,880 there because inclusive to me is um and I think that the group 170 00:15:25,199 --> 00:15:30,959 conscience at the time when we were choosing that word was to ensure that 171 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:34,639 everybody We we did have a fair share of people 172 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:38,959 have to leave the community because they weren't able to find appropriate 173 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:42,959 housing. We want to make sure that we're hitting all those markers, that our 174 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:48,079 seniors are housed safely housed in a house that they feel comfortable in and 175 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:52,880 can afford and that our that everybody is able to to to 176 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:56,759 feel secure and actually plan for their future in the community. 177 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:05,040 Uh so um the Parkview Apartments So, this year was significant for the 178 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:12,079 Parkview Apartments. Again, we've had another year of 35 units being rented. 179 00:16:08,399 --> 00:16:18,240 Uh we have like a 15-day turnover. We have quite the waiting list, but this 180 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:25,040 year was a little bit different that all 10 of our subsidies 181 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:33,839 were um were were used and that there was a major barrier with that. Um there 182 00:16:28,959 --> 00:16:37,680 was So last year uh we did pass the um the community housing policy at the HHC 183 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:45,120 for the Parkview Apartments specifically, but it could also be um 184 00:16:42,399 --> 00:16:48,320 it could also be used scalable for any future developments we do with 185 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:56,000 affordable housing with partners like ADSAB. Um this uh 186 00:16:53,360 --> 00:17:00,320 there was some barriers with like people there was 187 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:04,959 uh like there's requirements that you need to report for to keep your subsidy 188 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:10,720 and a lot of things like having your taxes done is one of them and that was a 189 00:17:07,039 --> 00:17:17,120 major barrier because um we don't have anybody that does taxes in the community 190 00:17:13,360 --> 00:17:24,480 like that advertises to do them. And if you go to H&R and you're behind from say 191 00:17:19,839 --> 00:17:30,240 COVID, that's $500. It's $100 per almost $100 per uh return. So, we were able to 192 00:17:28,319 --> 00:17:37,280 set ourselves up with uh this the Sudbury community um 193 00:17:33,919 --> 00:17:42,480 uh service center and they were we were we found out that we are in their 194 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:46,559 service area. Everyone thought it's the same thing again. 195 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:49,679 uh they thought that Al was following us, they thought that Hurst was 196 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:53,039 following us, they thought Thunder Bay was following us. So, we just kind of 197 00:17:51,520 --> 00:18:00,720 fell through the cracks. [clears throat] So, this these guys will come to the 198 00:17:56,400 --> 00:18:05,679 community when um uh Service Canada comes to the community and if there's 199 00:18:03,679 --> 00:18:08,799 anything that you need help with, if there if you need help budgeting, 200 00:18:07,120 --> 00:18:13,280 knowing if you're u any kind of financial literacy things, they'll help 201 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:18,640 you get your ID. They'll help seniors make that they're getting all of the 202 00:18:15,039 --> 00:18:24,720 money that they should be and yeah, they're great. So, this partnership was 203 00:18:21,679 --> 00:18:30,960 really excellent. I I think I've had about 204 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:35,760 four or five like sub uh subsidies get approved as a direct result of their 205 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:40,160 assistance because [clears throat] like honestly the HHC didn't want to be 206 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:45,600 working outside their mandate and right doing people's taxes like you could but 207 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:50,080 liability stuff like that. So, it was really great that we found these guys to 208 00:18:47,360 --> 00:19:00,320 help us to fulfill our mandates. It was just a partnership that was great. Uh, 209 00:18:54,799 --> 00:19:05,919 also adds that the um the way that things are approved now, the wait times, 210 00:19:03,039 --> 00:19:10,559 everything is so much faster since I wrote that policy. And we were able to 211 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:16,880 get everyone on board with training to understand how the HHC works because we 212 00:19:14,799 --> 00:19:21,360 aren't all of the other properties that they um subsidize, they own. So, we're a 213 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:25,280 little bit we're on the outside. We're we're an exception as usual. Everything 214 00:19:23,120 --> 00:19:27,919 with us is exceptional. Like it's just always 215 00:19:25,919 --> 00:19:31,440 » I love that. Everything with us is exceptional. That's a great phrase. 216 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:35,738 » I'll take it. >> Always the exception. So, it did take a 217 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:40,640 little bit of extra work and [clears throat] making sure that all of 218 00:19:37,360 --> 00:19:48,960 the um the right people were informed and just get once the one person said 219 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:57,200 yes, this is it. It just made it so much easier. And that policy will be there 220 00:19:52,799 --> 00:20:01,280 and it isolates um insulates the HHC from things like staff turnover because 221 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:06,480 that's what happened at ASAP. People retired and they took that knowledge 222 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:10,320 with them and then there's people like who are you? What do you what was the 223 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:15,600 agreement? Like they they don't fully understand it. So now we have that and 224 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:21,039 it's like it it insulates us from that happening again. So all of our sub 225 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:25,120 subsidies were allocated and that is also very important 226 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:29,760 because um it shows the need is there and I 227 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:34,559 don't think that we were really showing the need was there because we were able 228 00:20:32,559 --> 00:20:38,320 to give out 10 subsidies and only six of them were filled like you know that's 229 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:42,320 that's an issue when you're going to ask for funding and things like that. So 230 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:49,679 building those things up and ensuring that everything's firing and it it was 231 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:55,120 it's helped a lot. Um the other big thing that I talked 232 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:58,640 about earlier uh strategic plan. So you can click here and look at the strategic 233 00:20:56,799 --> 00:21:04,520 plan if you want to. I doubt anybody really [laughter] wants to. I don't want 234 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:04,520 to. 235 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:15,360 But uh the HAC we uh we completed our strategic plan in tandem with a 236 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:20,640 governance review and it was significant for us because it it just building the 237 00:21:18,799 --> 00:21:24,720 capacity to know how to do things like that and work through those things. It 238 00:21:22,159 --> 00:21:31,919 was really um it and getting everybody on the same 239 00:21:26,799 --> 00:21:36,320 page. It was so valuable. Um, we were able to reach out with all of 240 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:40,720 our stakeholder with many of our stakeholders and with the the township 241 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:46,159 participated. uh the it public the public and 242 00:21:43,360 --> 00:21:52,880 community members participated and we were just um able to do 243 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:57,600 something that I feel like we could really stand behind and know what it is 244 00:21:55,679 --> 00:22:01,919 and know understand what we're doing and why we're doing it and what we're trying 245 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:08,400 to achieve. Um grant applications so funding ready 246 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:12,480 readiness was also a big area of work this year. We submitted multiple funding 247 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:16,799 applications to support preservation, innovation, planning and future 248 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:21,919 development. One application was successful, one was unsuccessful, and 249 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:29,039 three remain under review. Um the other thing that we did was the 250 00:22:25,360 --> 00:22:35,840 50 Queen Street transfer, which was huge for us to get that done. It was just 251 00:22:33,360 --> 00:22:39,280 it had been something that we we worked towards and we wanted to make sure we 252 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:43,440 did we were doing right. Just to have the transfer done that was just huge. 253 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:49,200 Now we're the important part is there but the leg work and and creating 254 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:54,480 something that is a defensible and b that we are able to duplicate it again 255 00:22:52,080 --> 00:23:01,200 like it's a we're creating that process we'd be able to do it again and all that 256 00:22:57,120 --> 00:23:06,720 leg work is done. Um so the Queen Street project it it's a big milestone for us. 257 00:23:04,799 --> 00:23:10,159 I feel really great about how it's going. We just finished our procurement 258 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:15,919 process. Uh the one thing that we that council or 259 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:24,240 that the board uh directed us to do was or directed me 260 00:23:19,039 --> 00:23:30,640 to do was to do it in such a way that uh we are able we're keeping it open for 261 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:35,280 everybody to bid on the work like it is we're it we could have done it where it 262 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:39,120 was just one guy. They're going to be the project manager and they're going to 263 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:44,080 handle everything. Get all the contractors and just do it all at once, 264 00:23:41,919 --> 00:23:47,840 which would be worth it. And we were open to that if the price was like, you 265 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:54,960 know, one guy wanted to bid on all of the projects because we we uh separated 266 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:59,760 out in six, but we knew that there's um a cost, you're going to pay for that, 267 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:03,919 and b they were going to have a hard time 268 00:24:01,919 --> 00:24:07,760 keeping it accessible to the guys that actually need the help with building 269 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:14,000 their capacity. And that is a huge part of our mandate is building up the small 270 00:24:11,039 --> 00:24:19,600 smaller scale contractors to be able to take on larger projects and to take on 271 00:24:16,559 --> 00:24:25,120 projects that are um like government projects like from the municipality. So 272 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:30,080 to build that at scale and work with them like and I I think we've been 273 00:24:27,919 --> 00:24:35,760 really successful with the scale of the the contractors that we have. Um, and I 274 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:43,279 feel really good about where the project is already. We we we've updated the amp 275 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:47,600 to 200 service. The hydro should be getting turned back on. The windows are 276 00:24:45,279 --> 00:24:51,760 in. The deck is built. There's things it's moving. Like things are going 277 00:24:49,279 --> 00:24:58,080 really well. Uh, and it's it's going to be a cute house. Like it's I love this 278 00:24:54,400 --> 00:25:05,159 house. like I want to like Rona can move out and then [laughter] 279 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:05,159 » I'd be able to fit in that house. 280 00:25:05,679 --> 00:25:12,000 » I'm just kidding. Ron, [laughter] 281 00:25:09,039 --> 00:25:15,600 » so in conclusion, yeah, the year represented an important period of 282 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:21,200 growth, stabilization, and future planning for the HHC. 283 00:25:18,799 --> 00:25:26,000 The only thing uh Mitch is gonna speak to the financial statement. I just 284 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:29,360 wanted to Um, 285 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:35,360 sorry. When I'm in presenter mode, I can't really. So, as an 286 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:41,120 » as an attachment to this uh to the annual report, there is the budget. Um, 287 00:25:39,039 --> 00:25:47,679 we did budget for a little bit more of a a surplus 288 00:25:45,360 --> 00:25:52,720 this year. Well, we did budget for a surplus. We we look there's going to be 289 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:58,080 a little bit higher of a surplus this year. and that's going to be transferred 290 00:25:54,720 --> 00:26:02,799 into a housing revitalization fund that will be created to for future 291 00:26:00,159 --> 00:26:08,400 initiatives in corn pain. So whether that's putting down what our share of 292 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:15,039 the grant or whatever letting it grow interest whatever that board of mine 293 00:26:11,360 --> 00:26:20,880 decides to do but it's um it's going to the benefit of the community 294 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:26,240 and yeah I'm going to I'm going to stop sharing and then 295 00:26:23,039 --> 00:26:30,559 or I think it's another item, right? >> Yeah, it's another item. Maybe we can 296 00:26:27,679 --> 00:26:37,120 stop here and if council or your board of directors has any um questions as the 297 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:41,080 shareholder of what's gone on this year, I'll open the floor now. 298 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:47,760 » I don't have any questions. I thought that was great. 299 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:51,318 » That's good to hear. Yes. >> Yeah. I just I want to say I think 300 00:26:49,279 --> 00:26:56,000 Katherine underselled herself a bit. [laughter] 301 00:26:52,640 --> 00:27:01,520 um the the collaboration and the um contacts that she's made Ontario wide 302 00:26:59,039 --> 00:27:05,120 really all the way down into Ottawa and set up meetings for us so that we can 303 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:10,159 meet people in person when we're out of town and um and she works diligently in 304 00:27:08,559 --> 00:27:17,919 the background has regular meetings with Ral Impact and still moving some 305 00:27:13,120 --> 00:27:21,600 applications along the um great um rehabilitation of the relationship with 306 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:25,840 ADSAP that was, you know, so moving that 307 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:29,600 forward and being able to get people that are having a difficult time when 308 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:33,760 you're faced with, hey, I can't afford the rent, but then okay, we can move you 309 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:37,360 through the process and we can get you there. So, when you're starting out 310 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:41,840 with, you know, maybe three three years behind on taxes and you need a place to 311 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:46,400 live and you can get through all of those years and then go through the 312 00:27:43,679 --> 00:27:49,919 subsidy process and get housed. That's a huge accomplishment. So, I want to say 313 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:53,919 thank you, Katherine, because you do that from the heart. It like it's above 314 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:59,360 and beyond. And I'm glad we have that contact. It might be good to um when 315 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:03,600 Service Canada is in town that we highlight that those are some of the 316 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:06,399 opportunities people have because uh there might be more people out there 317 00:28:04,799 --> 00:28:07,279 that don't even know about the service, right? 318 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:14,000 » Yeah. >> So, yeah, I had no idea. And they are um 319 00:28:10,399 --> 00:28:18,240 similar to what um Alma uh the credit recovery places do where 320 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:21,600 they help you and they'll help you with budgeting. They'll help you even claim 321 00:28:20,159 --> 00:28:30,240 bankruptcy if you need to. >> Right. And it's written into our rent 322 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:34,559 collection policy that um if if there is if we're going to enter into a payment 323 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:40,799 agreement for a rears or anything like that that they could work with them to 324 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:45,840 come up with a budget. So like you're not just sending people with and going 325 00:28:42,799 --> 00:28:50,080 towards some arbitrary number that they can't afford. there's actual like, okay, 326 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:55,279 we know what you can afford and what you can handle and making those 327 00:28:52,559 --> 00:28:59,440 uh special agreements as successful as they can be and having those extra 328 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:03,279 services there if they need them. >> Yes, for sure. For sure. And I think 329 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:06,960 there was also some contacts made at the municipal housing and m uh ministry of 330 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:10,559 affairs. I cannot speak today. I don't know what 331 00:29:08,799 --> 00:29:15,200 I I need to go back and wake up, I guess. But anyway, those contacts were 332 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:19,200 made with the ministry and I just uh I just wanted to highlight that because it 333 00:29:16,559 --> 00:29:22,799 doesn't get captured in the report and um and thank you Catherine. 334 00:29:21,039 --> 00:29:26,559 » You're welcome. Yes. >> Yeah. So, any further questions? Does 335 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:29,600 council want a tour of the house when it's completed before it goes up for 336 00:29:28,559 --> 00:29:32,399 sale? >> Well, of course. 337 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:36,240 » Okay. So, if we could have that invitation and we can make a day of it 338 00:29:34,559 --> 00:29:42,640 whenever that is. I've also been um I've been putting blog 339 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:46,480 entries on the website and posting them on the Facebook page. I'm also going to 340 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:51,279 be starting with videos. It's just boring with the procurement process like 341 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:57,120 hey guys we're procuring like you know like now that things are actually 342 00:29:53,520 --> 00:30:03,120 changing like it it's it's exciting. So I I have been putting blog posts to talk 343 00:29:59,679 --> 00:30:06,799 about um uh like where we are in the process. the electrician actually 344 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:12,559 because one thing that I found very helpful for for me as somebody who's 345 00:30:10,399 --> 00:30:16,640 going through I've never really done this before and like with a building 346 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:21,200 permit. No, I'm just kidding. But I've never done it. [laughter] 347 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:27,520 I'm just kidding. But like I've never brought a house back up to 348 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:36,080 and the the man that I that we had his name's Koala T Koala T Y electrical and 349 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:43,120 the way that he suggested that we have the ESA guy come in before we start 350 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:48,080 anything and then have that checklist so we're not overpaying putting in too much 351 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:52,799 guessing we're getting or updating something it's like no you need 352 00:30:49,279 --> 00:30:59,600 something else to save money. And it was like he wasn't like saying he didn't 353 00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:03,600 have expertise to know, but he wanted us to know to feel good about what he was 354 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:09,039 advising. So you don't you're not wondering or getting oversold by a 355 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:14,480 contractor or something. So he I'll be putting up a post in the next about that 356 00:31:11,679 --> 00:31:20,559 process. and he had he gave me a little write up of his his advice on like why 357 00:31:18,159 --> 00:31:23,840 you should use like like the ESA and what they do and how that process 358 00:31:22,399 --> 00:31:29,600 process works because it is kind of confusing at first but yeah if you're 359 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:33,200 working with a professional for electrician [clears throat] like that 360 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:39,576 like I thought that was so honest of him >> because he could have told me like hey 361 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:39,576 we need to tear down [laughter] 362 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:47,519 but a lot of people do get oversold on what they actually need to pass a 363 00:31:45,039 --> 00:31:48,799 um there is wiggle room if it's not a new build 364 00:31:48,399 --> 00:31:52,559 » right >> with the essay 365 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:55,919 » and it gives you the confidence if you don't if you haven't done electricity in 366 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:58,960 your house and you're upgrading and now you're talking to the people that are 367 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:03,440 going to pass it and they're telling you exactly what you need it gives you the 368 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:06,720 confidence to know okay I'm on the same page with my electrician now 369 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:11,519 » and it's empowering too and then you know to that whoever you sell it to you 370 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:16,799 you can sleep at night Mhm. >> Knowing that the house is safe, like you 371 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:18,399 you'll feel better about that sale. >> Exactly. 372 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,787 » And especially if you're living in it, you'll sleep really good at night. 373 00:32:20,132 --> 00:32:24,080 [clears throat] [laughter] 374 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:28,320 » Okay. Is there any further comments or questions for Catherine? 375 00:32:26,399 --> 00:32:32,799 Okay. Thank you so much, Catherine. And I'm not sure. Do we have a resolution 376 00:32:29,919 --> 00:32:36,559 for that first part? >> Yes. Okay. If I can get a mover and a 377 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:41,679 second for the presentation moved by councelor Peter Kism, second by 378 00:32:38,159 --> 00:32:45,679 councelor John Perov. It resolved that council sitting as the 379 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:49,200 sole shareholder hereby accepts the 2025 annual report of the Hornpane Housing 380 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:56,000 Corporation to be received as information. Those in favor and that is 381 00:32:52,880 --> 00:33:01,200 carried. And I guess I should just add uh we are still a shareholder 382 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:03,039 within the hotel as well. Hotel Studio 6. That's part of our 383 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:06,399 » Yes. >> Yeah. Okay. 384 00:33:04,159 --> 00:33:09,440 » Yes. I Yeah, I guess. 385 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:12,240 » Oh, it could be in there. I might have just missed it. 386 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:15,679 » No, I don't think I put it in there. >> Okay. Do we want to make an addition to 387 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,840 that? And >> um I 388 00:33:16,559 --> 00:33:24,399 » or an appendix. >> Yeah, I'll add an appendix to the uh but 389 00:33:20,399 --> 00:33:29,279 just verbally the hotel is uh we've uh is doing well and is expected to do even 390 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:34,080 better. >> That is good news. Yes. Yes. Okay. 391 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:37,679 Great. >> Okay. And we're moving on to the 392 00:33:35,519 --> 00:33:43,039 financial statements. >> Perfect. I'll uh I'll pull up the 393 00:33:39,279 --> 00:33:49,559 financial statements on my screen. Um and let me know when uh you can see 394 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,559 the statements. 395 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:54,159 » We can see them. Are you able to make them a little bit bigger, Mitch? 396 00:33:53,360 --> 00:34:01,080 » Yep. >> Or presentation mode or something? 397 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,080 » Uh 398 00:34:03,519 --> 00:34:09,679 all right. Is that any better? >> That is better. Yes. 399 00:34:06,799 --> 00:34:14,800 » All right. Perfect. Um well, I'll introduce myself again real quick. I was 400 00:34:11,919 --> 00:34:19,679 uh there back in July. Uh but Mayor Ford, I don't believe you were there for 401 00:34:16,159 --> 00:34:24,159 the township um township audit report, but uh my name is Mitch Marinovich. I'm 402 00:34:22,079 --> 00:34:29,119 the audit manager for township and the housing corporation. Um at this point, 403 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:34,480 we've completed both audits. Township was completed in July, August, and the 404 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:38,480 housing corporation back in around June. Uh we are here to present the financial 405 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:42,560 statements. So what I plan to do is go over the statements, explain some of the 406 00:34:40,079 --> 00:34:47,040 variations in the accounts, how we're landing at different numbers, what uh 407 00:34:44,079 --> 00:34:52,240 some of the numbers make up, as well as um a little more understanding for the 408 00:34:49,839 --> 00:34:56,720 township as a sole shareholder. Uh have comfort over the financial statements 409 00:34:53,839 --> 00:35:02,400 and uh commend the job that Katherine's been doing for the housing corporation. 410 00:34:59,920 --> 00:35:08,240 So, uh, the first page on your audit financial statements is your auditor's 411 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:13,440 report. Um, as you can see, so with the auditor's report, we do have a qualified 412 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:18,720 opinion. Uh, a qualified opinion is a tier lower than your standard uh, clean 413 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:22,320 opinion that gets issued. And what that qualification on is explained down in 414 00:35:20,720 --> 00:35:26,320 this paragraph here, your basis for qualified opinion. Uh I will add that 415 00:35:24,720 --> 00:35:32,640 the basis of qualified opinion has been the same uh qualification for the past 416 00:35:29,359 --> 00:35:37,599 two or three years now. Uh primarily the revenue from the laundry fees being all 417 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:41,359 cash in general. As auditors we cannot verify that all the cash went in. It's 418 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:44,880 it's no allegations against anybody at the housing corporation. But if we can't 419 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:50,320 validate that 100% goes in, it is a a 420 00:35:48,720 --> 00:35:55,599 qualification. And the way we would solve that in the future is implementing 421 00:35:53,359 --> 00:35:59,440 uh stronger controls, having two people go and pull the amounts out, signing 422 00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:04,320 off, doing recounts, items like that. But I can work with Katherine just to 423 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:09,520 increase those controls over the laundry fees so that it's easier to validate 424 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:14,160 that 100% went in. Uh other qualification is related to what's 425 00:36:12,240 --> 00:36:19,119 called the asset retirement obligation and this came in in 2023. 426 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:24,480 Uh and what it relates to is anytime that there's a legal obligation uh for 427 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:30,400 removal or remediation uh a liability has to be set up on the 428 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:36,800 financial statements. So for the housing corporation itself, the red vinyl seal 429 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:40,240 uh flooring tile has suspected asestous in it. And that comes back from the 430 00:36:38,240 --> 00:36:47,440 building condition report, but it isn't confirmed uh yet at that point on if it 431 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:51,520 is has in it and if there is uh an associated cost for removal. Um, in 432 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:56,000 order to have a clean opinion, we need to know whether or not the the ceiling 433 00:36:54,160 --> 00:37:01,200 or the flooring tile does contain asbestous as well as an estimate on how 434 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:04,560 much it would take to remove. So, those are the qualifications that kind of 435 00:37:02,720 --> 00:37:09,359 bring you down a step from a clean audit opinion as opposed to uh the qualified 436 00:37:07,359 --> 00:37:15,200 opinion that you have. I will add that these are very common uh qualifications 437 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:18,880 that impact a lot of public sector uh clientele as well as not forprofits. 438 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:22,800 even though the housing corporation isn't a nonprofit that it is a very 439 00:37:21,119 --> 00:37:28,560 common qualification. So, it's nothing that I would lose sleep over. Uh and 440 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:35,520 it's really things that are essentially um not as much in management control 441 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:39,200 unless an engineer is brought in to uh do an assessment for the housing 442 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:43,760 corporation. The rest of the report uh outlines the 443 00:37:41,599 --> 00:37:48,240 different duties of the audits and the management. uh a lot of night nice late 444 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:55,520 night reading on that front to get us down to the final report. But the first 445 00:37:51,440 --> 00:38:00,400 statement you'll see uh starting on uh page four I believe is your statement of 446 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:06,160 financial position. Your statement of financial position is at December 31st 447 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:12,000 your year end where all the balances sit uh for the housing corporation. So your 448 00:38:09,599 --> 00:38:17,200 cash balance has decreased and what that decrease is real is relating to uh is 449 00:38:15,119 --> 00:38:22,320 some capital expenses in the year as well as growing accounts receivable. Um 450 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:27,200 when we go down to accounts receivable we do see an increase of about $25,000 451 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:32,640 yearoveryear uh accounts receivable as explained in note three but primarily a 452 00:38:29,839 --> 00:38:38,079 h 100,000 of that is related to the PSB rebates. Um, and I will confirm that now 453 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:42,560 that the township or the housing corporation has received its public 454 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:47,680 sector body rebate uh as a municipal service corporation, these will be 455 00:38:45,359 --> 00:38:52,560 translating into cash uh in the next week, I would say. I 456 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:57,040 checked this morning. Everything's been approved and it should be being uh 457 00:38:54,800 --> 00:39:01,920 flowed and offsetting with the source deductions payable on the um housing 458 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:07,440 corporation side in their payroll account that's due and that goes back a 459 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:12,960 number of years. Uh the remaining 30,000 that's primarily all um when I say 460 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:16,880 30,000 the 100,000's GST. the remaining 30,000. That's all tenant rent that's 461 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:22,560 gone uh a number of years and it's related to a couple tenants that are 462 00:39:18,720 --> 00:39:28,079 late and have land uh landlord uh tribunal board uh orders to pay. There's 463 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:32,400 no real growth in the tenant receivable year-over-year. So, that's more of a 464 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:38,240 commending Catherine on vetting the tenants coming in. Um it's remained 465 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:42,480 consistent year-over-year with the AR. It's not growing in terms of what the 466 00:39:39,839 --> 00:39:46,160 tenants owe. So, it is a a good sign that the tenants that are coming in are 467 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:50,960 paying consistently year-over-year. 468 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:55,520 Your portfolio investment, that's your investment in the hotel. Um, not a lot 469 00:39:53,839 --> 00:39:59,440 change is expected to change on that amount. That is the amount of common 470 00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:05,359 share that you subscribed to when the development was occurring. 471 00:40:02,720 --> 00:40:08,800 Accounts payable. Accounts payable. A little bit of growth on that. Primarily 472 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:13,200 where that growth is coming from is a little bit of interest on the um payroll 473 00:40:11,599 --> 00:40:17,040 deductions that go back a number of years that they're going to be settled 474 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:23,040 in the next week once we receive all those uh all the PSD rates come rebates 475 00:40:20,720 --> 00:40:26,240 coming forward and the remaining accounts payable. It's primarily just 476 00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:32,720 timing difference on when things get paid uh for your normal trade. 477 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:38,320 deferred revenues goes down and that uh deferred revenue is your prepaid rent uh 478 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:43,359 your last month's deposits as well as the ADSAB deferred contribution on the 479 00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:47,920 on the forgivable loan that goes back to about 2010 back when it was the economic 480 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:51,680 development corporation. But every year that's going to decrease 481 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:57,119 about $12,000 over the 20 year life of that loan. 482 00:40:55,520 --> 00:41:01,200 Long-term debt. So there's two debts. Last year's doors as well as the main 483 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:07,520 mortgage decrease is just your normal principal payment uh on the debts 484 00:41:05,359 --> 00:41:11,839 and your capital assets. Capital assets, those are your brick and mortar assets. 485 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:17,200 Those are uh a lot of your Park View apartments as well as any improvements 486 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:20,160 that went through there. Bit of a decrease in the year primarily from 487 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:24,000 amortization. the additions that happened in the year 488 00:41:21,839 --> 00:41:28,800 to the tangible capital assets was a new boiler was put in uh for the housing 489 00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:33,520 corporation. And that wraps up your Oh, I went down a 490 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:38,800 couple too I went too many pages down. But that wraps up the balance sheet. 491 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:41,680 Your next statement is your statement of operations and your accumulated surplus. 492 00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:45,599 So this is your revenues and expenditures, your surplus in the year, 493 00:41:44,079 --> 00:41:51,760 uh all your ins and outs over the 12-month period. So revenue growth um in 494 00:41:49,599 --> 00:41:57,359 terms of rent you went up about 6,000 beat budget by about 14,000. So again 495 00:41:55,520 --> 00:42:01,440 good tenants are coming in everybody's paying their bills and you are bringing 496 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:04,800 in higher market rent uh as opposed to prior year. 497 00:42:03,359 --> 00:42:09,200 As mentioned every year you're going to have this District Services 498 00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:15,440 Administration Board amount as that forgivable loan uh keeps on creeping 499 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:19,200 down. every year bring 12,500 into uh revenue. Laundry is about $7,000 500 00:42:17,499 --> 00:42:23,440 [clears throat] uh bringing you a total revenue of 501 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:26,800 433,000 down from last year but primarily only 502 00:42:25,359 --> 00:42:31,720 because that there was the grant that came in last year towards the door 503 00:42:28,720 --> 00:42:31,720 project 504 00:42:32,079 --> 00:42:36,960 or sorry that was I think building services. 505 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:43,040 » Yeah the uh >> yeah that was uh citywide correct? 506 00:42:39,839 --> 00:42:48,880 » Yeah asset management. Okay. Uh expenditures significantly down from 507 00:42:45,839 --> 00:42:54,000 last year and also down from budget. So it's uh good on management just making 508 00:42:51,280 --> 00:43:00,319 sure that finding value, finding ways to cut costs to continue to uh generate a 509 00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:04,640 surplus now for the housing corporation. But your key decreases uh are in your 510 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:10,480 professional fees. And last year about $34,000 in professional fees uh down to 511 00:43:08,319 --> 00:43:15,520 about 11,000 this year. And that's all from the asset management program going 512 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:19,280 in as well as your building condition uh your building condition report that was 513 00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:25,119 completed by Accent Building Services last year. So that's primarily where the 514 00:43:22,079 --> 00:43:28,640 decrease is. Uh revenue on rental income's going up. Operating expenses 515 00:43:27,119 --> 00:43:34,800 are going down bringing you to a total surplus about $19,62 516 00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:38,640 for the year. uh continuing to show positive surpluses over the two years 517 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:44,319 and indicating that the housing corporation is trending in the right 518 00:43:41,119 --> 00:43:49,200 direction uh compared to where it was about two two 519 00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:55,119 three years ago. So again it is good to see uh on that front 520 00:43:53,119 --> 00:43:59,280 immittent change in net financial assets net debt this essentially reconciles 521 00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:03,839 back to how we get from our surplus to what our net financial assets are. 522 00:44:01,119 --> 00:44:08,079 Financial assets are your assets that are your rights to cash. So an accounts 523 00:44:06,240 --> 00:44:13,599 receivable, it's a right to cash as well as accounts payable, a right to pay 524 00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:18,160 cash. The number we land at is about uh 232,000. So between the amount of money 525 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:22,640 that eventually you're going to owe compared to what you have now, we are 526 00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:25,440 showing improvement year-over-year. Uh a big piece of why the net financial 527 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:30,880 liabilities and the negative is because you do have the mortgage and this is 528 00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:35,200 completely normal to see. And the last statement will be your cash 529 00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:39,920 flow statement. Uh cash flows just break out everywhere 530 00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:47,119 from our surplus to how we land at our cash balance uh about 19 or $17,000. 531 00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:50,800 Uh as you can see the capital additions 133,300. 532 00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:56,000 That's your purchase of your boiler in the year. You made 23,000 in long-term 533 00:44:53,119 --> 00:45:04,960 debt. Uh accounts dable increased. accounts payable has decreased and 534 00:45:00,240 --> 00:45:10,880 uh your deferred revenue continues to uh decrease year-over-year. So that's how 535 00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:14,240 we land at our $17,000. And after that, we have our notes, the 536 00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:18,880 financial statements, and these just provide some clarity. Uh the first ones 537 00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:24,480 are some of your accounting policies just explain how things are accounted 538 00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:28,400 for and then some of the notes uh will break up some of the numbers just for a 539 00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:32,640 little more clarity on what's in the balance. So, as you can see, tenant rent 540 00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:37,920 receivable is very minor increase year-over-year, but the HST recoverable 541 00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:42,880 uh in your accounts receivable is uh primarily why you're seeing that shift 542 00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:47,280 from 105,000 to 130,000 and that should all be collected in the next uh next 543 00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:54,240 couple weeks. Um, we do have an allowance over the 544 00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:57,680 current um, tenant rent receivables and that's something just worth monitoring 545 00:45:55,680 --> 00:46:02,160 year-over-year as we see some of those older accounts receivables that are 546 00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:06,640 before the landlord uh, tenant board. If there's no activity, we do have to take 547 00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:08,880 a look and see, make an assessment and how much do we think is going to be 548 00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:12,800 collectible. Is this something that eventually should get written off? Every 549 00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:17,760 year we're going to assess it and determine whether or not we should uh 550 00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:22,440 continue to decrease the reasonable amount that we think we should collect 551 00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:22,440 on those amounts. 552 00:46:23,119 --> 00:46:28,720 Uh when we're looking at our accounts payable, this government remittanc is 553 00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:33,839 payable piece that we're talking about that goes back to um a number of years 554 00:46:31,599 --> 00:46:39,599 ago where source deductions were not uh being paid. So as those HST rebates come 555 00:46:37,599 --> 00:46:44,000 in, they're going to offset the government remittances payable. So that 556 00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:47,599 should clean everything up uh shortly. And trade the trade c trade amounts 557 00:46:46,319 --> 00:46:51,960 those are just primarily timing differences on when things get paid 558 00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,960 year-over-year. 559 00:46:52,560 --> 00:47:00,079 And the last note um I'll just give a quick uh discussion on is just the 560 00:46:57,839 --> 00:47:05,280 deferred revenue. So rent deposits remain relatively consistent at 27,000 561 00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:11,200 compared to 23,000 your prepaid rent. So that's if uh rent came in earlier than 562 00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:15,040 normal uh when they were due that that's what gets reported there. And of course 563 00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:21,880 the DAB deferred contribution has about 5 years left on that on that forgivable 564 00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:21,880 loan. Uh should be ending around 2030. 565 00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:30,319 And I think that's the majority of the financial statements. Your long-term 566 00:47:28,240 --> 00:47:34,160 debt is uh consistent just normal payown. No new debt was taken on by the 567 00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:39,839 housing corporation in the year. And over the next five years, your principal 568 00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:44,160 repayments are going to uh decrease as you pay off the first door project loan 569 00:47:41,839 --> 00:47:48,000 from last year. Housing corporation still has a general 570 00:47:46,319 --> 00:47:53,520 deficit, but that's been getting chipped away year-over-year just from uh ongoing 571 00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:57,920 surpluses. Um that's primarily the the financial 572 00:47:56,400 --> 00:48:03,440 statements. Uh the rest of the notes I'm not going to go into too significantly. 573 00:48:00,079 --> 00:48:08,880 their more standard uh verbiage. But what I will do is I'll open the floor to 574 00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:13,168 any questions from council and or Katherine 575 00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:16,079 » just to clarify. It wasn't [clears throat] a new boiler. It was a 576 00:48:14,720 --> 00:48:18,960 new hot water tank. >> Oh, sorry. You're breaking up. I didn't 577 00:48:17,599 --> 00:48:22,240 hear that too. Well, >> um it wasn't a new boiler. It was a new 578 00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:26,400 hot water tank. >> Hot water tank. Sorry. Yeah. 579 00:48:24,559 --> 00:48:31,599 » Boiler. It would be a lot. >> But that was a good price. 580 00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:34,800 » Yeah. No apologies. Uh I get them mixed up. It was a new hot water tank. That's 581 00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:39,440 correct. >> And another thing I just wanted to 582 00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:49,040 highlight is that uh prior to um the HD like prior 583 00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:54,559 when the HHC took over for the HDC, we adopted some new policies and some of 584 00:48:51,359 --> 00:48:59,440 those one of those was to collect rent deposit or last month's rent at the 585 00:48:56,559 --> 00:49:03,920 beginning of a teny. So if it seems low like 35 units, why is there only this 586 00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:09,280 much in rent dep like we do collect rent deposits? There's just some uh older 587 00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:15,920 tenants that didn't have to. But moving forward, the due policy, every tenant 588 00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:19,920 has to give last month's rent deposit. >> Okay. 589 00:49:18,319 --> 00:49:22,800 » That's pretty standard, I think. >> Yeah. 590 00:49:20,559 --> 00:49:29,000 » Well, the only thing it's kind of hard to deal with [clears throat] 591 00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:29,000 like because you you 592 00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:34,720 they they could ask for interest on it and stuff and you have to show the 593 00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:38,720 interest. It's it just I understand why the HDC opted not to 594 00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:44,319 » but you really need to to protect yourself as a landlord. 595 00:49:42,720 --> 00:49:47,319 » So, any questions on the financial statements? 596 00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:56,480 I just have one that's more related to what I'm seeing in the agenda package 597 00:49:52,800 --> 00:50:02,160 and what was shown online. So, I'm just going back to page um what page am I on 598 00:50:00,240 --> 00:50:08,079 here five of the actual it's 24 of our 599 00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:14,400 package for those in the package and I noticed on your presentation it 600 00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:19,280 wasn't municipal contributions on the list it was laundry 601 00:50:17,119 --> 00:50:24,720 revenues I was trying to check to make sure all the numbers were correct 602 00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:33,160 » and I just want to make I'm thinking we might received an older copy. 603 00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:33,160 » Oh, I got this right from the um 604 00:50:33,359 --> 00:50:38,319 the Stephanie like our our >> Oh, is that is that is that right from 605 00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:40,720 the portal? >> Yeah. 606 00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:43,680 » Okay. Uh that should that should be the laundry income. Um I'll I'll double 607 00:50:42,510 --> 00:50:47,440 [clears throat] check and if not, we'll send you a different copy. That should 608 00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:51,440 be the uh the laundry income on that. There were are no municipal 609 00:50:49,119 --> 00:50:55,040 contributions uh from the township. >> Yes, that's what I just wanted to make 610 00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:58,319 that clarity. Yeah. >> And then we can update when we get that 611 00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:03,200 new one, we can update our agenda package to ensure that the right one is 612 00:51:00,319 --> 00:51:07,200 there. And from my like the as you were doing your presentation, I was watching 613 00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:09,920 the bigger amounts and all of that added up. Like that was all the same. 614 00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:13,119 » So, >> yeah. 615 00:51:11,119 --> 00:51:17,040 » And your copy looked a lot better displayed actually than ours that's in 616 00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:21,520 the agenda package. >> Yep. I think probably just on the 617 00:51:18,559 --> 00:51:25,680 transfer over uh into into that when formatting didn't come through as much, 618 00:51:23,119 --> 00:51:28,240 but I I can uh update the one on the portal just to make sure it's 619 00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:32,559 consistent. The the one I was showing should have been the final one, but uh 620 00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:36,640 » it could have been something that the team put up an old an older copy, but 621 00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:39,599 I'll uh I'll look into it and send that >> one. 622 00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:43,839 » I could have easily grabbed the wrong one out of the files list, too. Like uh 623 00:51:42,240 --> 00:51:48,079 it could have been my bad, but I will update this before it's published on the 624 00:51:45,599 --> 00:51:52,880 website. Okay. Yeah, that's all I just want to make sure we're we're And why 625 00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:57,760 that's so important just for the board is that we are self- sustaining and it 626 00:51:55,440 --> 00:52:03,200 opens us up to uh further funding opportunities and gives the MSC more 627 00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:07,440 freedom and leverage if they are completely self- sustaining and not 628 00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:10,880 receiving municipal contributions. So, there is a I'm not trying to be 629 00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:15,680 nitpicky, but I >> No, I [laughter] 100% agree. 630 00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:19,839 It's a point of pride for us that we don't get municipal. 631 00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:26,079 » Yes. Yes. We're making this work without rateayer dollars. 632 00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:30,160 » So, any further questions at this time? >> I don't. 633 00:52:27,839 --> 00:52:35,760 » Okay. There being none, there is a a motion on the floor to um accept the 634 00:52:33,359 --> 00:52:39,440 financial uh statements as presented as received for information. If I can get a 635 00:52:37,839 --> 00:52:43,040 mover and a seconder, please. Moved by councelor Peter Kismaker, second by 636 00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:47,200 councelor John Peroff. Be it resolved that council sitting as sole shareholder 637 00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:50,880 hereby accepts the 2025 financial statements of the Hornpane Housing 638 00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:57,359 Corporation to be received as information. Those in favor 639 00:52:54,319 --> 00:53:00,720 and that is carried. >> Okay. Well, thank you so much, Mitch. 640 00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:06,400 You're welcome to continue on and stay in our meeting, but if 641 00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:10,640 » Yeah, I don't feel obligated. [laughter] >> No, I I I appreciate the invite. I got 642 00:53:08,559 --> 00:53:14,720 to go pack. We have an office wedding tomorrow. one of the other managers and 643 00:53:12,319 --> 00:53:18,800 I have to get uh myself to well it's Saturday but we're we're all heading out 644 00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:22,240 tomorrow morning to Kani Mountain Lodge just uh 645 00:53:20,240 --> 00:53:27,119 » outside of Sudbury for this wedding. So I still got to get packed and uh 646 00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:31,359 » ready to go for that. But uh appreciate the invite and it was good seeing 647 00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:35,520 everybody again and I think uh we'll connect again uh in the near future for 648 00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:38,319 our intermodic coming up uh probably around November. 649 00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:41,359 » But I'll touch base with Cindy and Manuela. 650 00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:45,599 » Okay. will travel safe and have a fantastic time. That sounds like 651 00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:49,040 » a great celebration. >> Yeah. Thank you very much. 652 00:53:47,359 --> 00:53:53,280 » Thanks. >> Have a good night everybody. 653 00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:57,839 » Good night. >> Okay. So, moving on to 6.7 and I'll hand 654 00:53:56,319 --> 00:54:03,520 it off to Katherine about a housing needs and demand study proposal. 655 00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:07,720 » Okay. Uh give me one second here. 656 00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:48,400 Hey, can everybody see it? 657 00:54:48,559 --> 00:54:58,079 Okay. So, uh, in the spirit of building capacity and, uh, local capacity, I 658 00:54:56,000 --> 00:55:03,440 thought that I would just bring this up to council. I'm not asking for a 659 00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:12,160 decision on it right away, but I uh the staff and the board have been working uh 660 00:55:08,559 --> 00:55:17,760 on a solution because uh the township's housing needs and demand study. They 661 00:55:14,720 --> 00:55:23,440 normally you best practice to have them done every five years and we've been 662 00:55:20,319 --> 00:55:28,079 looking at a way that we could do this have it done without taking up the 663 00:55:25,839 --> 00:55:34,640 staff's resources. uh here at the township and without 664 00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:39,760 paying a lot of money. So the the HHC would like to present the opportunity 665 00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:47,160 for us to possibly uh to complete it for the township. 666 00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:47,160 So, 667 00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:54,400 uh, I did send you I gave you guys a paper package of what I'm presenting 668 00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:59,920 right now and I can send the digital one as, uh, after the meeting if anybody 669 00:55:56,799 --> 00:56:06,480 would like it. So, housing needs a demand study. Um, it provides current 670 00:56:03,599 --> 00:56:13,599 locally relevant evidence to guide future housing development. Um, it makes 671 00:56:09,599 --> 00:56:17,839 sure that you are um responding to the your you got your 672 00:56:16,079 --> 00:56:22,160 priorities straight. You're responding to the most needed things and your 673 00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:29,760 resources are going to the right place when it comes to housing. Um so 674 00:56:26,720 --> 00:56:34,720 the idea is that we would build on existing local research and municipal 675 00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:44,880 planning documents to help inform this and as well as the the lo the latest um 676 00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:50,720 uh census was just completed. It's the information from it comes out rolls out 677 00:56:48,720 --> 00:56:55,440 all of it won't be fully out I think until 2027 678 00:56:53,040 --> 00:57:00,400 but um so we wanted to be a if we were able to 679 00:56:58,559 --> 00:57:06,319 do it we would be able to build the local capacity by getting the HHC do to 680 00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:12,559 do it and if we were able to find a good method of doing it and a 681 00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:17,680 defensible methodology of doing it that would be a way that we would uh could 682 00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:24,240 produce revenue for other communities moving forward. 683 00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:29,520 So, uh we're best positioned to lead this work because we are the ones that 684 00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:33,839 are dealing with this data. We know uh what we're up against and what what we 685 00:57:32,079 --> 00:57:40,160 need and we just finished doing the strategic plan. The economic development 686 00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:46,640 office uh was has a lot of studies that are have 687 00:57:43,839 --> 00:57:53,280 been already done uh that would be able to feed into this work. Uh the 2019 688 00:57:50,160 --> 00:58:01,440 study isn't so outdated that it wouldn't be useful. Um also u we were mandated to 689 00:57:59,599 --> 00:58:06,520 deal with housing for the township. So it just makes sense that it comes to our 690 00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:06,520 office. 691 00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:15,040 So the way that uh the proposed scope that I was thinking or that we are 692 00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:20,079 thinking of how we would be able to complete it is in three main work 693 00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:25,680 streams. The first being research and data analysis by reviewing everything we 694 00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:33,359 have taking stock of all of the existing plans uh the studies that were completed 695 00:58:28,559 --> 00:58:39,599 the market development uh stuff the uh the census data just and finding what's 696 00:58:36,079 --> 00:58:47,040 missing um and then digging in from there but having a good idea of where we 697 00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:52,799 are at and where uh what we the resources that we have to start with. Uh 698 00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:57,040 that's going to be the starting point. From there, uh we could do a community 699 00:58:55,040 --> 00:59:01,200 and market assessment, engage stakeholders and community members to 700 00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:05,839 validate findings, identify emerging pressures, and assess pri priority 701 00:59:03,839 --> 00:59:10,880 needs. That's uh reaching out to the community. 702 00:59:07,599 --> 00:59:18,400 Um looking at stats, finding housing data, uh looking at our own data, real 703 00:59:15,599 --> 00:59:22,960 estate, how things are selling, impact data, 704 00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:29,839 identifying the barriers and like just taking a good honest look at everything. 705 00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:33,760 Uh the third thing would be uh actual the 706 00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:38,799 finding the recommendations uh what what and then that would be the 707 00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:45,200 prioritization figuring out what's needed the most and 708 00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:51,839 what we could do to solve the issue that or the barriers to remove the barriers. 709 00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:56,480 Uh so the other piece of this is that a lot of 710 00:59:54,640 --> 01:00:00,880 times these studies get done and they're done because they're requirements of 711 00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:05,040 grants. Like if you have a grant, if you're putting in a grant, if you have a 712 01:00:02,079 --> 01:00:11,119 housing visa demand study and it's defensible, oh, you have that, you did 713 01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:15,200 that. The data is there. I I kind of the way that I see this moving forward is 714 01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:20,000 I'd like to see it done in a way that we're actually using the data and it 715 01:00:17,359 --> 01:00:26,319 turns into a living document almost like a strategic plan so that in five years 716 01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:32,319 we're not starting over again like in five years you would do a deep dive 717 01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:40,480 reaching out to stakeholders every five years but every year we can look at uh 718 01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:46,880 what growth we've had what has changed because if you look at 2019 by 2023 it 719 01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:54,000 was vast like 2019 and then co and then everything just changed from 720 01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:59,760 there. So these they become very uh like a static report where they're not being 721 01:00:56,240 --> 01:01:05,440 used and they're not very useful uh from this on the staff level, you know, and 722 01:01:02,319 --> 01:01:08,960 on a decision making level. Uh in order to keep it up to date, we could look at 723 01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:16,480 it every year when we look at our strategic plan and update it. Uh when 724 01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:20,160 we're designing it, we could um figure out what indicators we're going to use 725 01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:26,079 to measure progress throughout uh like 726 01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:29,440 every year we're going to look at rentals. Are there any more rentals 727 01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:33,040 available? Are there any more? Like those are the things that we're going to 728 01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:37,119 find to see how we're being successful. And that's what we would look at every 729 01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:40,880 year to keep this a living document that's always up to date and not 730 01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:47,119 something that's just sitting on the shelf or on someone's hard drive that we 731 01:01:44,559 --> 01:01:53,680 sometimes talk about but don't really understand fully. Um 732 01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:59,680 so the proposed timeline that I would like to do this is to have it done by 733 01:01:57,040 --> 01:02:04,640 June 2027. uh the 734 01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:11,119 I think and this will largely depend just to be 735 01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:17,920 uh completely transparent um we we will be hiring somebody to help with this and 736 01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:23,119 it's going to depend on that process of what it can start like when we hire 737 01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:28,960 somebody and when they're trained all of that stuff like moving forward I I gave 738 01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:34,079 phase one a little bit a good amount of time, but I I think 739 01:02:31,599 --> 01:02:39,760 that we would be able to meet that June 2027 deadline. 740 01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:46,079 The only thing is that the uh the census data, the way that it 741 01:02:43,839 --> 01:02:50,559 comes out, we're just going to go with the most up-to-date information we have 742 01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:56,480 because there was a 2023 2020 I think one that was 743 01:02:54,079 --> 01:03:04,480 a partial update. They didn't do a full census, but it's newer than the 2019. 744 01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:09,760 As the uh when we do the the year update, then the year after, we'll be 745 01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:14,400 able to incorporate the census data. So, it'll always be up to date with what we 746 01:03:11,599 --> 01:03:20,960 have. Okay. So the total investment for from 747 01:03:17,359 --> 01:03:29,039 the council that the HHC is asking for is $10,000 for this initial investment 748 01:03:25,119 --> 01:03:35,520 and $3,000 a year to keep it up to date and that is for uh the dedicated staff 749 01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:41,440 support the independent review. Uh I know that there's a concern that you 750 01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:45,760 know we aren't outside enough to be unbiased 751 01:03:43,119 --> 01:03:52,480 but with this type of study it's the methodology that needs to be defensible. 752 01:03:48,559 --> 01:04:02,160 So we I did have budgeted it in here to have u a review of the entire uh project 753 01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:07,440 after to validate all of our findings so that we we'd be able to say defend to 754 01:04:05,039 --> 01:04:12,079 defend the study after and say yes this is right this is good like this is good 755 01:04:09,839 --> 01:04:18,160 information they followed this this and this and yeah so it would be a fully 756 01:04:16,079 --> 01:04:23,920 defensible study Um and the research and engagement uh 757 01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:30,079 portion that's all the stakeholder stuff uh the different engagement that we can 758 01:04:27,599 --> 01:04:34,400 move forward to to bring the study and make it as wholesome as the last one 759 01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:39,520 because the last one we had a really amazing turnout for. I think there was 760 01:04:37,359 --> 01:04:45,599 like the researchers they spoke about how engaged the community was. So like 761 01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:51,920 I'm hoping that we can get just as much feedback as we did that time. 762 01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:56,240 Um yeah and then from there considerations 763 01:04:54,319 --> 01:05:04,480 there may be considerations concerning whether the uh if this needs to um like 764 01:05:01,839 --> 01:05:08,400 the the HHC we are an MSC we're municipally owned corporation and we 765 01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:13,520 were [laughter] um tasked with with housing. It's part 766 01:05:11,599 --> 01:05:19,280 of our mandate and it's part of both of our strategic plans to advance housing. 767 01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:23,280 Um so uh assigning the housing needs and 768 01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:29,359 demand study would help build permanent local capacity 769 01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:35,039 rather than relying on an uh an external consultant. 770 01:05:31,839 --> 01:05:41,200 to um like the council would be able to aside 771 01:05:37,839 --> 01:05:46,559 this to us without it any questions being brought up 772 01:05:43,359 --> 01:05:51,839 surrounding like bonusing or anything like that like we would just because we 773 01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:58,240 are tasked with housing and that is part of our mandate 774 01:05:54,960 --> 01:06:02,960 » and there that's it thanks for listening I'm sorry it's like convoluted but a 775 01:06:00,799 --> 01:06:06,720 little But >> no, thank you, Catherine. Do we have any 776 01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:12,240 questions for Catherine? Go ahead. >> Um, I have more comments than maybe 777 01:06:08,799 --> 01:06:16,160 recommendations. Um, so because sorry, council is in restricted acts period and 778 01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:22,240 this is not included in this year's budget, we can't um this evening say yes 779 01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:27,119 to the expenditure of $10,000. It was in the budget. I could do it, but it's not. 780 01:06:25,039 --> 01:06:30,961 So my recommend I I love the idea. I think it's great. I agree that it is 781 01:06:29,119 --> 01:06:36,640 part of both mandates. I also agree [clears throat] that um because you are 782 01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:40,400 our MSC and that expertise is housed internally, we don't have to go 783 01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:46,480 externally. We can do it internally. So my recommendation is to change the 784 01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:51,680 timelines on page five um from October December to possibly 785 01:06:49,839 --> 01:06:54,960 November December when you have a new council where they can amend the budget. 786 01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:59,200 » Okay. >> So um that that would be the first 787 01:06:57,680 --> 01:07:04,240 recommendation. The [clears throat] second would be it would be a small 788 01:07:01,039 --> 01:07:09,280 impact to the nove to the 2026 budget. So I think you would do very little work 789 01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:14,799 in 2026. So I would say an initial small payment to the HHC in 2026 with the 790 01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:21,039 majority in the 2027 budget for both the HHC and the township. So if it was 791 01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:24,640 10,000 maybe like 2500 in 2026 and 7500 in 2027 792 01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:28,640 » on both those to make it more manageable for the budgets and to have the least 793 01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:33,119 amount of impact but to move the project forward 794 01:07:29,839 --> 01:07:38,720 » immediately and then let me just go through all the um 795 01:07:35,839 --> 01:07:42,160 and then um that also gives me the opportunity when 796 01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:47,920 the new council comes in to ensure that it aligns with their priorities 797 01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:49,119 which I it should >> Yeah. 798 01:07:48,319 --> 01:07:54,480 » Yeah. >> My uh the way the reason why I'm 799 01:07:51,599 --> 01:07:59,520 bringing this to you now is because I do want to start the hiring 800 01:07:56,400 --> 01:08:03,839 process. So the thing is is that uh I want to be able to answer the questions 801 01:08:00,799 --> 01:08:08,400 like what are you hired to do? Well that most of their job is going to be this 802 01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:13,839 helping you not doing this but helping you with this assisting with 803 01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:19,679 administrative duties with this. So then I also had one more recommendation on 804 01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:24,799 page six. You have the annual um annual charge of 3,000 for an update. That's 805 01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:30,480 reasonable, but I would recommend doing that for years one to four, but having a 806 01:08:27,279 --> 01:08:36,799 more um wholesome refresh in year five with a larger dollar ticket because 807 01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:42,480 Yeah. So years one to four with the 3000 for a quick refresh and then in year 808 01:08:39,359 --> 01:08:45,199 five a revamp of the whole um report again. 809 01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:50,640 » Yeah, that's what like is every five years needs to be done. So that's what I 810 01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:54,000 » just add that to that timeline there. >> Yeah. 811 01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:55,359 » Y sorry those are my comments. >> Okay. 812 01:08:54,400 --> 01:09:00,640 » Okay. >> Uh any other questions from the floor? I 813 01:08:57,839 --> 01:09:05,600 kind of just have one comment or >> clarification I should say for for those 814 01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:13,040 that are watching us. Your the investment of 10,000 815 01:09:08,159 --> 01:09:20,799 right is to help further your development but it aligns perfectly with 816 01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:25,440 the municipal uh strategic plan, right? >> So we benefit from carrying on our 817 01:09:24,080 --> 01:09:27,279 strategic plan, right? >> Yeah. 818 01:09:25,839 --> 01:09:33,040 » Okay. because it was >> oh this is a huge cost savings because 819 01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:34,560 we paid 25,000 for the first needs and demand study. 820 01:09:33,839 --> 01:09:42,640 » Yeah. >> And by hiring the HHC to do our next one 821 01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:49,040 for 10,000 build that capacity >> I yeah it's a win-win for the knowledge 822 01:09:46,799 --> 01:09:54,640 base in our community and it's and it's hiring. It's not like we're 823 01:09:51,279 --> 01:10:00,080 » it's not a subsidy to the HHC. >> Yeah. And The other just to add to that 824 01:09:57,520 --> 01:10:05,199 it's also showing that uh this is going to be done on a continuous basis so it's 825 01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:08,159 not going to be forgotten about that's the part I really like living 826 01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:13,360 » because [clears throat] >> yes because we already have a standing 827 01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:17,280 resolution at council table from when our five years came up so that would 828 01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:22,640 have been I think it was in 2024 in the fall that we agreed that we wanted to 829 01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:27,280 update the needs and demand study so >> this also increases of the HHC's capac 830 01:10:25,199 --> 01:10:30,560 capacity to remain self- sustaining because once they've gone through it 831 01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:35,360 with us and they've got that one, they can reach out to other communities 832 01:10:32,480 --> 01:10:38,880 around us. Um, and because they are northern and understand the north and 833 01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:43,520 the demands here are so much different than what a consultant from southern 834 01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:47,600 Ontario sees. Um, it would be like a homegrown plan for the whole region and 835 01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:51,840 it would create an opportunity for them to generate a new revenue stream from 836 01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:56,719 those communities that are around us. And it's not going to be a copy and 837 01:10:53,280 --> 01:11:00,000 paste plan from like, you know, a southern Ontario suburb 838 01:10:58,719 --> 01:11:05,360 » perspective. >> Yeah. Like it we we do have a lot of 839 01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:10,080 different needs that >> u the other thing that 840 01:11:07,679 --> 01:11:14,400 » I just wanted to highlight was that like you said like it does align with both of 841 01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:18,960 our strategic plans, but we wanted to be sure that you know how we don't want to 842 01:11:16,480 --> 01:11:21,600 have a line item that we got a municipal transfer, 843 01:11:20,159 --> 01:11:25,920 » right? We want to show that it's reciprocity and that we're that there's 844 01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:28,960 a we're supporting each other. 845 01:11:27,440 --> 01:11:32,264 » No, you should be billing us and we should be paying it like any other. 846 01:11:30,719 --> 01:11:36,000 » It's not like a a transfer that [clears throat] looks like we're we're 847 01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:40,960 not pulling our weight in the community or earning that money 848 01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:45,440 » or that it's avail that that we're doing it like that we 849 01:11:43,120 --> 01:11:50,159 earn it. >> Yeah. I I really I like the proposal, 850 01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:55,120 Catherine. I love the idea that you want to update it annually. Yeah. 851 01:11:52,000 --> 01:12:00,159 » Because I agree that um even from 2019 to 2026 right now, how many new 852 01:11:57,920 --> 01:12:04,400 apartments have been built? We know we have growth and if you don't measure it, 853 01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:08,719 you can't you can't show it to your lenders, to your funders. And you and 854 01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:14,080 it's so much we were just at AMO talking about um the successes of porn pain 855 01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:18,320 through all of these challenges, especially coming out of the co area. 856 01:12:16,480 --> 01:12:22,800 But if you don't have the data, if you don't have the numbers to say like look 857 01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:28,640 at this is what has actually happened and um more recently in a discussion was 858 01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:34,719 about if you look at all municipalities a size of a thousand you can actually 859 01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:40,480 start seeing that man we we're doing good like we're trying to get above the 860 01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:44,960 hump in a very challenging situation right because a lot of municipalities 861 01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:50,320 are in this place where they don't have a a strong economic base and they're 862 01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:55,920 almost like bedroom communities >> and and but that base is growing. So, 863 01:12:52,719 --> 01:12:59,199 it's I I think it would be so just key to when we're meeting with people to get 864 01:12:57,600 --> 01:13:04,400 more funding that we have the data to say, no, this is how many new uh places, 865 01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:08,880 new units of residents that we've been able to add, 866 01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:14,880 » how many people are looking, how like who's contacting real estate agents, 867 01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:21,760 » who's had to build somewhere else. all of that information is so important like 868 01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:28,159 and I think that yeah I think that's going to be a huge u 869 01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:31,920 like it sounds like you know like the strategic planning the the governance 870 01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:36,000 review it sounds like a lot of paperwork and stuff like that but it's honestly 871 01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:41,280 what you need to get >> decisions made it's not as easy as just 872 01:13:39,199 --> 01:13:44,560 you know finding somebody that can do it like you know 873 01:13:42,480 --> 01:13:49,440 » and you need it for big applications. We needed it for the enabling housing, I 874 01:13:47,199 --> 01:13:54,480 believe, and uh what was the accelerator >> and it puts ahead. It does if you have 875 01:13:51,840 --> 01:14:00,640 that demonstrated feed and if you have those because they when funders get are 876 01:13:57,760 --> 01:14:04,480 giving you money, they want to show >> what you were able to do with it. So, if 877 01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:08,800 you don't have a starting point, they're not going to be able to say like look at 878 01:14:06,719 --> 01:14:14,400 how far look at everything we did. we they were able to measure this like I 879 01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:17,120 give them this much they got this far. >> They want to be able to measure their 880 01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:22,400 successes >> well too. So we need to be speaking 881 01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:25,840 their language and doing what they need >> to say that they're successful as well 882 01:14:24,719 --> 01:14:30,320 and that they're making good investments. 883 01:14:27,679 --> 01:14:33,760 » Yeah. Good. Good. Okay. So we're going to move forward 884 01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:37,760 then with that new proposed timeline. I just want to thank ma for those 885 01:14:35,679 --> 01:14:43,199 recommendations and then um yeah and we know at council 886 01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:47,920 tables already discussed this previously about the housing needs and it was 887 01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:51,920 passed unanimously. I'm going to say it was the fall of 2024. Yeah, 888 01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:54,560 » I I can't really remember but it's in our resolutions already when it was 889 01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:59,600 coming due >> and this could easily be put in 2027's 890 01:14:57,440 --> 01:15:04,560 budget. I'm almost just looking for a memorandum of understanding that this is 891 01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:08,800 something that we will be able that we will move forward with. 892 01:15:06,719 --> 01:15:11,840 » Oh yeah, you can talk to Manuel about that. That would fall under her 893 01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:16,719 delegation of authority, her regular one, not even the council restricted 894 01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:20,960 acts because it's >> you can you're able to do that. 895 01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:23,840 » It'll help with our hiring what just so I'd be able to tell somebody this is 896 01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:28,640 what we're doing. because I don't want it I didn't want to be advertising hey 897 01:15:26,719 --> 01:15:34,017 I'm looking for this for this and you guys are like we didn't even hire you 898 01:15:31,199 --> 01:15:34,017 for that [laughter] 899 01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:39,120 » yeah you can have that discussion with Manuela and she'll lead you in how to 900 01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:41,440 get it done so you can hire the person ahead of time and 901 01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:48,880 » okay excellent >> yeah and if I can uh get a mover in a 902 01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:52,800 second to um receive the housing uh means and demand study proposal moved by 903 01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:57,120 councelor Peter Kism second by councelor Belinda Kissmaker. Be it resolved that 904 01:15:55,040 --> 01:16:01,360 resolved that council hereby receives the housing needs and advance study 905 01:15:58,719 --> 01:16:05,280 proposal as presented. We have further resolved that consideration of the 906 01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:10,880 proposal be deferred to a future meeting of council. Do we need to have that 907 01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:14,800 deferral on there? If she'll talk us through it or 908 01:16:12,560 --> 01:16:18,159 » Yes, because I think once um we have a new council, we'll need to do an 909 01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:21,679 amendment to the budget. Correct. >> 2027. 910 01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:25,280 » Are you going to put it all in 2027? >> Yeah. then we don't need the referral. 911 01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:30,239 » Okay. So, we'll [clears throat] just delete that uh just be it resolved to be 912 01:16:28,719 --> 01:16:31,920 » uh receive as presented. >> Yeah. 913 01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:34,960 » And then Yeah. >> Okay. 914 01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:40,320 » And all in favor >> and that is carried. 915 01:16:37,840 --> 01:16:46,360 Okay. And then we just have 6.8 is general um questions or comments from 916 01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:46,360 council. 917 01:16:48,080 --> 01:16:52,480 » I have none. >> You have none. Okay. 918 01:16:49,920 --> 01:17:00,719 » Yeah, I'm good. up a lot of time. Sorry guys. 919 01:16:56,480 --> 01:17:05,679 » I just have one question that um the the board is revolving easily. You don't 920 01:17:03,280 --> 01:17:12,239 have any vacancies besides the council ones for this coming year. 921 01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:15,120 » I I believe I do have I do have one coming up. There will be 922 01:17:14,239 --> 01:17:21,679 one posting >> one posting for external. I I'm not sure 923 01:17:18,400 --> 01:17:24,400 of the years though, like if it's a one-year position. I have it written 924 01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:28,640 somewhere. >> Okay. Okay. Just I just bring that up 925 01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:33,199 for the shareholders is that we do do staggered terms at the HHC board of 926 01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:37,040 directors so that there's always somebody on the board that knows and 927 01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:42,640 this year she could possibly get two brand new directors from council table, 928 01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:47,040 right? So, um I I think it's a good system the way it 929 01:17:44,480 --> 01:17:52,400 works. So yeah, I could have completely 930 01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:55,840 a completely new >> council or two new council 931 01:17:54,560 --> 01:18:02,480 representatives completely. Yeah, >> I know for sure one. But yeah. Okay, 932 01:18:00,239 --> 01:18:05,840 » it'll be fun. Yes. Yes. >> I'm excited. 933 01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:10,880 » Yeah. Okay. And if there's no further com uh 934 01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:14,159 comments or questions. Okay, then we'll adjourn this meeting. 935 01:18:12,719 --> 01:18:18,000 If I can get a mover and a seconder. Moved by councelor 936 01:18:16,159 --> 01:18:22,719 uh John Perov, second by councelor Peter Kissmaker. Be it resolved that the 937 01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:29,840 annual general meeting of the horn pain housing corporation is adjourned at 7:19 938 01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:32,960 p.m. Those in favor that is carried. And thank you so much, Catherine. 939 01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:36,560 » Thank you. >> And we will return to regular council. 940 01:18:35,040 --> 01:18:39,520 If I can get a mover in a second, please. Moved by councelor Glenda 941 01:18:37,920 --> 01:18:44,080 Kissmaker. Second by councelor John Perov. Be it resolved that council does 942 01:18:41,440 --> 01:18:49,679 hereby return to the regular council at 7:19 p.m. Those in favor and that is 943 01:18:47,120 --> 01:18:53,040 carried. Okay. 944 01:18:51,440 --> 01:18:56,880 And you're welcome to stay, Catherine, for the rest of our meeting. And you're 945 01:18:54,800 --> 01:19:00,560 welcome to sit right where you are. Okay. And if at any time you want to 946 01:18:58,400 --> 01:19:03,199 leave, do not feel >> obligated or anything. Just it's up to 947 01:19:02,640 --> 01:19:07,520 you. >> Okay. 948 01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:11,280 » Okay. Uh adoption of minutes 7.1. We have uh the adoption of the regular 949 01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:14,719 meeting of council of August 5th. If I can get a mover and a second please. 950 01:19:12,800 --> 01:19:17,920 Moved by councelor John Peroff. Second by councelor Peter Kissmaker. Be it 951 01:19:16,560 --> 01:19:21,440 resolved that the council of corporation of the township of corn does hereby 952 01:19:19,679 --> 01:19:25,040 adopt the following minutes as distributed the regular meeting of 953 01:19:23,199 --> 01:19:29,520 council held on Wednesday August the 5th 2026. 954 01:19:27,360 --> 01:19:35,600 Any comment or correction to those minutes? Okay. I'm not seeing any. Those 955 01:19:32,480 --> 01:19:39,040 in favor and that is carried. And we have the departmental reports. If 956 01:19:37,679 --> 01:19:42,480 I can get a mover and a secondary to open the floor, please. Moved by 957 01:19:40,320 --> 01:19:45,679 councelor John Perov, second by councelor Belinda Kmaker. Be it resolved 958 01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:48,960 that council does hereby acknowledge receipt of the departmental reports 959 01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:53,520 provided at the regular meeting of council held on September 10th, 2026. 960 01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:56,800 And we're starting off with the CEO's report. Manuela, would you like to add 961 01:19:55,760 --> 01:20:01,360 anything to your report? >> Um, no. I have nothing to add. I think I 962 01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:05,440 probably have a couple things I'd like to 963 01:20:03,040 --> 01:20:10,640 um maybe point out. Okay. Well, I included a schedule for 964 01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:14,960 the WSIB excellence program. It'll run into next year. Um, records management. 965 01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:19,600 We did quite a bit this summer with the summer student. So, we did a lot of 966 01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:24,400 shredding. Um, we now have a records of destruction. Um, a record of destruction 967 01:20:22,480 --> 01:20:27,280 which hasn't has been created, which we didn't have in the past. Um, and 968 01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:32,719 everything [clears throat] that got destroyed, it got incorporated into that 969 01:20:29,360 --> 01:20:36,400 record. um a lot of the historic data that's been sitting in that winward 970 01:20:34,480 --> 01:20:40,080 drive is now moving into the Tom Rims classification 971 01:20:38,080 --> 01:20:44,480 um system and we're continuing to work with Nenina to go forward. Um under 972 01:20:42,480 --> 01:20:49,440 capital the fitness and uh fitness center and library we're looking to um 973 01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:55,440 have a groundbreaking I think at the end of September and we should start um the 974 01:20:52,800 --> 01:20:59,679 construction in October. the town hall rena. Um there's a report later. It was 975 01:20:57,840 --> 01:21:05,360 we had a successful bidder and that will start later this year. The emergency 976 01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:11,280 control center. So the emergency funding that we received um an electronic sign 977 01:21:09,280 --> 01:21:16,800 has been ordered. It will go at in the public works yard. It's 3 feet tall by 978 01:21:14,159 --> 01:21:21,360 12 ft wide. So, and it'll be up above the fence, like positioned up above the 979 01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:26,880 fence so that it's visible from um people entering either side of the 980 01:21:23,760 --> 01:21:31,120 highway and also to the community. We purchased five generators. They've been 981 01:21:28,800 --> 01:21:36,560 assembled and they're ready to use. Um CMC training is scheduled for Cindy and 982 01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:40,960 for Dwayne in September and October. And the cleanup of the boardroom where the 983 01:21:38,480 --> 01:21:44,480 control center will be is ongoing. Um firefall renovations. Sorry, I had a 984 01:21:42,640 --> 01:21:50,320 typo. says to begin in September. That RFP is to go out in September. Um 985 01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:55,040 surplus properties. So the 10 properties um that were sold 986 01:21:53,120 --> 01:22:00,320 a couple years ago and were never developed, we now have ownership again. 987 01:21:57,679 --> 01:22:10,400 So those properties are 18 Willow, 171 19, 21, and 23 Cedar, 52 4th, 23 Murphy, 988 01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:14,960 85 161, and 2113rd. Um and they are on our website. Two residential properties 989 01:22:12,719 --> 01:22:19,120 have been sold being 18 spruce street and 824. 990 01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:25,040 Um and AMO conference we had our 991 01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:30,480 delegations just quickly um there minister of finance we weren't able to 992 01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:35,199 get a delegation and I think ministry minister of infrastructure and we have 993 01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:40,880 one next week a delegation with them. Um, and I think other than if anybody 994 01:22:37,840 --> 01:22:44,080 has questions, that's really all I I wanted to point out. 995 01:22:42,480 --> 01:22:47,320 » Okay, I open up the floor for questions from council. 996 01:22:48,159 --> 01:22:52,960 » Question. The U fitness center and library. 997 01:22:52,639 --> 01:22:57,199 » Yep. >> It's going to the RFP. It's going to 998 01:22:55,600 --> 01:23:01,120 start at the end of September. >> End of September. Beginning of October. 999 01:22:58,960 --> 01:23:06,480 » October. When uh how long will it take to complete that? Well, the goal is 1000 01:23:03,280 --> 01:23:10,000 April 2027. I think it'll probably be closer to May or June. I think it would 1001 01:23:08,159 --> 01:23:13,440 be I think Cindy's working on an extension um with the funding right now. 1002 01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:18,880 Um >> just I think it's more reasonable 1003 01:23:16,400 --> 01:23:22,400 but we are trying to put up walls this fall so that they can work inside this 1004 01:23:21,040 --> 01:23:25,199 winter. >> Okay. Thank you. 1005 01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:27,920 » You're welcome. Yeah. >> Our hotel was built through the winter. 1006 01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:31,920 Y >> same contractor. 1007 01:23:29,360 --> 01:23:35,920 » Yeah. pretty confident. [clears throat] Yeah. 1008 01:23:34,320 --> 01:23:40,560 » Okay. Any other further comments or questions? 1009 01:23:38,880 --> 01:23:43,679 » Okay. I see that the Hallmark Center, we've got our final court order and 1010 01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:47,440 we're just waiting for transfers. >> Yes, I missed that one. That was the 1011 01:23:45,040 --> 01:23:51,520 other one I wanted to say. So, yes, the Hallmark Center, the judge has signed 1012 01:23:49,360 --> 01:23:54,800 off on the court order. Um, and then we're just waiting for the transfers to 1013 01:23:53,280 --> 01:23:58,239 go through and and then whatever needs to be written off be written off. So, it 1014 01:23:56,719 --> 01:24:01,280 is ours again. >> Very short. Not today, very shortly. 1015 01:24:00,239 --> 01:24:06,719 » Okay. Fantastic. >> So, we did get the 10 properties back. 1016 01:24:03,040 --> 01:24:11,199 We got the Hallmark back. We um I'll speak to the public works building 1017 01:24:09,040 --> 01:24:15,440 actually when I I Dwayne's not here this evening, so I'll speak to his report and 1018 01:24:12,880 --> 01:24:17,920 I'll give an update um on the public works. 1019 01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:23,600 » Okay. So, we should definitely reach out to um 1020 01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:27,600 uh the ministry that this has happened, that it's happening because they were 1021 01:24:25,120 --> 01:24:31,199 the ones that gave us the vice back in two years and ago now to try and get 1022 01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:36,159 this property back. So, that's exciting to be able to develop it now. 1023 01:24:32,960 --> 01:24:41,040 » Ministry of Northern Development Grove. >> Yes, it would be George's office now. 1024 01:24:38,719 --> 01:24:43,520 Yeah, it originally was um Minister Rickard. 1025 01:24:41,600 --> 01:24:46,560 » Yeah. that told us to uh go ahead with that and of course mister period told us 1026 01:24:45,440 --> 01:24:50,719 to continue with it. >> Yeah. 1027 01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:55,120 » So that's exciting. Um the tw 10 properties vested back to the township. 1028 01:24:52,960 --> 01:25:01,040 Are we able to um send those properties to the HHC to see if there's any of 1029 01:24:57,199 --> 01:25:03,920 those properties that we would like use of? 1030 01:25:01,520 --> 01:25:06,719 » We can. I think they're all vacant land, but I could be wrong. 1031 01:25:05,360 --> 01:25:10,400 » Okay. just cuz we went through them before and I'm not sure if they were on 1032 01:25:08,880 --> 01:25:14,800 our [clears throat] list when we were checking out property. 1033 01:25:12,080 --> 01:25:18,719 » I will review them with Catherine. >> Okay. 1034 01:25:16,960 --> 01:25:21,760 And the two residential properties that have been sold, so those are both houses 1035 01:25:20,639 --> 01:25:26,639 or is one vacant land? >> One's vacant land and the other one is a 1036 01:25:23,840 --> 01:25:30,960 house that's um the plan is to renovate. >> Oh, fantastic. Okay. 1037 01:25:29,120 --> 01:25:33,520 » This fall. >> Okay. 1038 01:25:31,440 --> 01:25:38,320 » Yeah. and the other vacant land there's a plan 1039 01:25:35,600 --> 01:25:42,440 to build to construct on that property. So, 1040 01:25:39,440 --> 01:25:42,440 » okay. 1041 01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:51,360 Okay. I don't have any further questions or anything from council. 1042 01:25:49,040 --> 01:25:57,199 Okay. We'll carry on. Thank you, Memo. Thank you. Okay. And next we have the 1043 01:25:53,920 --> 01:26:00,000 CFO, Cindy. Would you like to add anything to your report or 1044 01:25:58,800 --> 01:26:04,960 » um just a little bit? >> Okay. Just a note that the 2025 aud 1045 01:26:03,600 --> 01:26:09,760 financial statements have now been received. I did put expected but because 1046 01:26:06,960 --> 01:26:16,560 of today we have received them. Um they're not on our website yet but that 1047 01:26:11,760 --> 01:26:20,719 will happen. Um excuse me. Um in the variance reporting actual budget we've 1048 01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:27,440 been provided everything up to the end of July. Um so it's seven out of 12 1049 01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:33,280 months which is around 58% uh of the year if you go by the months. 1050 01:26:30,239 --> 01:26:38,960 Um something to note the budget amount column is the full year budget. We don't 1051 01:26:36,000 --> 01:26:45,120 break it down by month by month. Um quite um certain of our um expenditures 1052 01:26:42,800 --> 01:26:48,480 don't go on a monthby-month basis. Might and same with the revenues we don't 1053 01:26:46,480 --> 01:26:52,400 always get it month by month. Might be July and October. So those kinds of 1054 01:26:50,800 --> 01:26:57,000 things. So you might see timing differences if you're trying to identif 1055 01:26:57,040 --> 01:27:06,639 and there's also um potentially some codes that have not been identified yet 1056 01:27:02,719 --> 01:27:10,719 that need to move from one budget or one to another. 1057 01:27:08,800 --> 01:27:14,400 So there's more analysis to be done before 1058 01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:18,120 say we've got everything in this right place. Okay. 1059 01:27:21,040 --> 01:27:28,040 I think that's it. >> Okay. Do we have any questions for the 1060 01:27:25,040 --> 01:27:28,040 CFO? 1061 01:27:30,400 --> 01:27:37,199 » I just have one question about the uh FIR. 1062 01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:39,679 » If is September 30th beyond the deadline? 1063 01:27:39,360 --> 01:27:43,440 » No. >> For when it has to be okay. 1064 01:27:41,199 --> 01:27:50,719 » No, that's the Well, that's the deadline for NH. Okay. And then if we did go 1065 01:27:47,199 --> 01:27:55,920 beyond that payments from Olympia just delayed everything so much they wouldn't 1066 01:27:53,760 --> 01:28:00,560 go away. They' just be delayed but u we will 1067 01:27:57,280 --> 01:28:05,440 » Okay. that I I believe the ministry um their preferred deadline is May 31st but 1068 01:28:03,360 --> 01:28:08,080 the September 30th deadline is at the point where they'll start to hold your 1069 01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:13,280 PS fund. >> Okay. Okay. 1070 01:28:10,239 --> 01:28:18,320 So, uh, we're still trying to plan ahead that eventually we're going to get our 1071 01:28:14,800 --> 01:28:21,920 audit done earlier and then get so we're on a better circle or cycle and we're 1072 01:28:20,480 --> 01:28:26,159 not at the last minute. Okay. >> Y 1073 01:28:22,639 --> 01:28:29,719 » Okay. And I'm not That's still fault. Take it that way. 1074 01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:36,360 » Okay. Any other questions or concerns? 1075 01:28:37,600 --> 01:28:42,560 Okay. Thank you. >> [clears throat] 1076 01:28:40,960 --> 01:28:48,600 » We might have questions when we get to the information only, but when we get to 1077 01:28:44,480 --> 01:28:48,600 the variance report. So, 1078 01:28:48,719 --> 01:28:53,440 okay. So, moving on to Jennifer Hill, the clerk. Jen, do you have anything you 1079 01:28:52,239 --> 01:28:57,920 want to add to your report? >> I do. Okay. 1080 01:28:54,719 --> 01:29:03,120 » Um, so the election update, I'm still working 1081 01:28:59,840 --> 01:29:07,920 on finalizing polls. Uh, Linda at the hospital has been off, I think, on 1082 01:29:04,960 --> 01:29:11,440 vacation. So, when she gets back, we will have the dates for the advanced 1083 01:29:09,679 --> 01:29:17,679 polls. Um, 1084 01:29:14,320 --> 01:29:23,520 the IT update, uh, I didn't put in my report, but part 1085 01:29:20,320 --> 01:29:27,360 of that was changing the setup for streaming council meetings. So, I 1086 01:29:25,280 --> 01:29:30,320 apologize for the tech stuff today, and I'm sure that there's going to be a few 1087 01:29:28,800 --> 01:29:35,440 kinks that we have to finish working out. But uh 1088 01:29:32,719 --> 01:29:40,560 it is no longer melting my computer. So that's good. [laughter] 1089 01:29:38,080 --> 01:29:43,760 » Is that for example, is that a new process with the Do we have a new 1090 01:29:43,040 --> 01:29:47,120 process? Is that >> a fully brand new process for uh 1091 01:29:45,840 --> 01:29:54,000 » with encompass? >> Yeah. Yeah. So we have um a previous 1092 01:29:50,400 --> 01:29:55,440 computer from the um economic development 1093 01:29:55,297 --> 01:30:01,760 » [laughter and clears throat] >> uh office. a couple [cough] extras from 1094 01:30:00,320 --> 01:30:03,920 the intern, I think is what she was called. But 1095 01:30:03,040 --> 01:30:07,600 » yes, >> um so there was one that she had used 1096 01:30:05,520 --> 01:30:12,719 briefly but was in good condition and was powerful enough. So now it's sitting 1097 01:30:09,600 --> 01:30:15,920 under council table um and it's very small and it's connected so it's uh 1098 01:30:14,800 --> 01:30:22,400 that's running all the streaming software. Uh you'll also for the viewers 1099 01:30:18,960 --> 01:30:25,840 notice that the um background for the YouTube videos looks different because I 1100 01:30:24,000 --> 01:30:31,679 had to create a new one for the new computer. Um 1101 01:30:28,239 --> 01:30:38,320 hopefully everyone likes it. [laughter] And then um 1102 01:30:35,040 --> 01:30:44,480 uh for the service Ontario update. So we are still in the process of hiring. That 1103 01:30:41,120 --> 01:30:51,120 is still posted until September 18th. Um we do have We have been closed since 1104 01:30:48,880 --> 01:30:54,480 um this past Tuesday, I think. 1105 01:30:54,000 --> 01:31:02,320 » Yeah, >> the previous Tuesday. Previous Tuesday. 1106 01:30:56,880 --> 01:31:07,360 Yes, the first. Sorry. Um, and uh, I got word today, I believe, that 1107 01:31:05,600 --> 01:31:12,000 Service Ontario is going to be sending people. Sorry, yesterday afternoon I got 1108 01:31:10,000 --> 01:31:16,880 word uh, Service Ontario will be sending people from 1109 01:31:14,239 --> 01:31:21,440 uh, a different location to work from 11 to 3 next Wednesday, Thursday, and the 1110 01:31:19,679 --> 01:31:28,480 Wednesday Thursday after that. Uh, the information has been posted. 1111 01:31:23,199 --> 01:31:32,480 » So, they're helping to minimize uh, the service disruptions and then 1112 01:31:30,800 --> 01:31:38,080 hopefully we will be starting to train someone on September 28th. Uh which will 1113 01:31:35,840 --> 01:31:41,920 still be quite some time before it will be fully operational. It's a lot of 1114 01:31:39,840 --> 01:31:47,040 training, but we will likely have staff coming up to 1115 01:31:44,239 --> 01:31:50,960 train them here anyway. So hopefully the disruptions won't be for too long. 1116 01:31:48,880 --> 01:31:57,440 » Okay, fantastic. I'm glad that they are bringing somebody into town and um 1117 01:31:55,120 --> 01:32:01,840 because there was a service disruption. If there's anyone with expired 1118 01:32:00,080 --> 01:32:05,360 licenses or something like that that happened and they couldn't get out of 1119 01:32:03,120 --> 01:32:10,320 town, is is that something they can address with them when they're here? 1120 01:32:07,920 --> 01:32:14,560 » They can. Um it wouldn't stop, for example, if like the police were to pull 1121 01:32:13,040 --> 01:32:19,679 them over. It wouldn't absolve them because they it would have been you 1122 01:32:17,679 --> 01:32:24,159 should do it months in advance or go to a different center. So, White River is 1123 01:32:21,199 --> 01:32:28,639 still operational um purse. So unfortunately that is still the case 1124 01:32:26,080 --> 01:32:33,040 but people will be able to get their stuff done when they're here. 1125 01:32:30,000 --> 01:32:36,320 » Okay. Okay. >> Okay. 1126 01:32:34,719 --> 01:32:41,239 And I can take any questions. >> Yeah. So any questions for the clerk? 1127 01:32:45,520 --> 01:32:52,400 I'm not seeing any. Jim. >> Well, I'm glad you're getting through 1128 01:32:49,199 --> 01:32:56,719 the it. Like we said earlier, I love it until it doesn't work. And I'm not the 1129 01:32:54,159 --> 01:33:00,960 person to get involved with it cuz I just get frustrated and I'm like 1130 01:32:59,040 --> 01:33:04,480 something gets too far gone with my computer and I just want to get a new 1131 01:33:02,239 --> 01:33:07,440 one. [laughter] Something goes wrong with my phone and 1132 01:33:05,920 --> 01:33:10,880 it's got too not enough storage. I'm like it's time for a new one. [laughter] 1133 01:33:10,080 --> 01:33:16,400 » Yeah. Go ahead. I >> I just wanted to add um in the week that 1134 01:33:13,120 --> 01:33:20,239 I was away at AO um we did have a new IT company come in. So I'm not sure that 1135 01:33:18,080 --> 01:33:24,719 council is even aware that we've changed IT companies. We do have a new company. 1136 01:33:22,719 --> 01:33:29,040 Um, Jennifer and Cindy were instrumental in working with them to get everything 1137 01:33:26,639 --> 01:33:34,159 set up seamlessly. So, if you notice any hiccups in any of of your devices or 1138 01:33:31,440 --> 01:33:36,800 emails or I don't think that anybody on council even noticed, I think it was 1139 01:33:35,760 --> 01:33:41,280 seamless. >> Um, which is good. And but if you do 1140 01:33:39,520 --> 01:33:45,440 have any problems in the near future, just let any one of us know so that we 1141 01:33:43,520 --> 01:33:51,040 can make sure to direct it to the IT and get it fixed right away. 1142 01:33:47,600 --> 01:33:56,320 » Okay. Perfect. Okay. Thank you, Jim. and we'll move on to the public works 1143 01:33:52,400 --> 01:33:58,560 manager report and I you have addition. Yes. Okay. 1144 01:33:56,960 --> 01:34:02,480 » Um I don't have a well I do have an addition but I just wanted to quickly 1145 01:34:00,239 --> 01:34:06,480 review it. So third Avenue project as we all know is um pretty much complete. 1146 01:34:04,800 --> 01:34:10,480 There are some street light repairs to happen and we are looking at the lines 1147 01:34:08,400 --> 01:34:15,840 because that one white line we believe needs to be moved over about a foot. So 1148 01:34:13,520 --> 01:34:21,040 the walking lane is a little bit wider. Um the library fitness expansion will be 1149 01:34:18,320 --> 01:34:26,800 starting. Um they're just finishing up the design. 1150 01:34:22,800 --> 01:34:32,000 18 Becker is about 75% now moved over to 19 Becker. So that cleanup is 1151 01:34:28,960 --> 01:34:36,880 continuing. Um the environmental cleanup that's actually my addition. Um so the 1152 01:34:34,800 --> 01:34:41,600 environmental cleanup from 19 Becker has been completed and thee is satisfied 1153 01:34:39,760 --> 01:34:45,639 with all the efforts and the total cost of that effort was $21,548.7. 1154 01:34:46,480 --> 01:34:52,159 So very different from the millions of dollars that have been reported on 1155 01:34:49,520 --> 01:34:57,120 Facebook and other social media. It's contrary. It works out to about $21 per 1156 01:34:55,199 --> 01:35:00,159 person in town. Um >> little different little difference than 1157 01:34:59,440 --> 01:35:06,040 Yeah. >> So I just wanted to make that very 1158 01:35:01,840 --> 01:35:06,040 clear. That number is $21,548.7 1159 01:35:06,560 --> 01:35:13,280 was the cost to clean up the small oil spill in behind the new garage. 1160 01:35:12,560 --> 01:35:18,480 » Okay. >> So that that's a good news story. 1161 01:35:15,199 --> 01:35:23,040 » That is That is a really good news place for employees. 1162 01:35:20,159 --> 01:35:28,080 » Yes. And um the pavilion park washrooms are about 95% completed. So we're we're 1163 01:35:25,679 --> 01:35:32,080 just waiting on door closures and some solar lighting um for the front for 1164 01:35:30,480 --> 01:35:36,400 nighttime use. And I don't know if council noticed, but there is now a flag 1165 01:35:34,080 --> 01:35:41,440 also by the pavilion. So I think that Canada flag looks great there. And um 1166 01:35:39,679 --> 01:35:46,159 there are also goalie lights around the the pavilion so they change colors. Um 1167 01:35:44,159 --> 01:35:50,560 so we can have them for different events throughout the year whether it's 1168 01:35:47,440 --> 01:35:54,880 Halloween or Christmas Canada Day um >> or or whatever events we have going on 1169 01:35:53,120 --> 01:35:59,040 that we'd like to highlight. Sorry. >> And some proclamations will request that 1170 01:35:56,880 --> 01:36:03,199 we light municipal buildings. >> Sorry. Yes, absolutely. Any of the 1171 01:36:01,440 --> 01:36:06,000 proclamations. We have a second set that needs to go on this building. I don't 1172 01:36:04,560 --> 01:36:10,800 think that's happened yet, but hopefully we'll be able to address it this fall. 1173 01:36:08,719 --> 01:36:12,159 Okay, good job. >> Cool. 1174 01:36:11,360 --> 01:36:14,239 » Yeah. >> Yeah, 1175 01:36:12,800 --> 01:36:19,199 » that's it. >> And I see that the arena is getting 1176 01:36:17,280 --> 01:36:20,239 ready to have ice put on it. >> Yes. 1177 01:36:19,679 --> 01:36:21,040 » As well. >> Yes. 1178 01:36:20,639 --> 01:36:23,920 » Okay. >> For October 1st. 1179 01:36:23,440 --> 01:36:30,000 » Okay. >> Yeah. 1180 01:36:26,000 --> 01:36:35,280 » And um just for the uh sorry I might be on the wrong report now. Uh for the 1181 01:36:31,840 --> 01:36:40,400 opening, are we doing anything for the groundbreaking? Sorry. I I will let 1182 01:36:38,719 --> 01:36:47,040 council know once I have details. I'm waiting to hear back from um MP Terry 1183 01:36:43,040 --> 01:36:50,639 Shehan from M PP um Bill Rosenberg's office. Um I want to reach out to 1184 01:36:49,199 --> 01:36:54,000 Minister Perry to make sure that everybody can come and if they can then 1185 01:36:52,400 --> 01:36:57,920 we might want to >> have a discussion about maybe changing 1186 01:36:55,520 --> 01:37:00,639 the date to when they can. >> Okay. I think what does council feel? We 1187 01:37:00,320 --> 01:37:04,080 want >> or do you want more? 1188 01:37:02,400 --> 01:37:07,440 » Do we want people here for the groundbreaking 1189 01:37:05,280 --> 01:37:10,400 » for the end of September, October? >> Yeah, 1190 01:37:08,320 --> 01:37:13,360 » if we can. Yeah, that would be great. >> Yeah. So, if we can work somewhere. 1191 01:37:11,920 --> 01:37:16,400 » So, I've reached out. I'm waiting to hear back. Once I've heard back, I will 1192 01:37:15,280 --> 01:37:20,159 email council. >> I'm just excited to see you get started. 1193 01:37:18,800 --> 01:37:23,760 » Yes. Yes. [laughter] We all are. For sure. 1194 01:37:21,600 --> 01:37:28,480 » Yeah. Okay. Yep. For sure. >> Carlers are going to have their 1195 01:37:26,480 --> 01:37:33,600 lobby back. Yes. >> Yes. Yes. And just a comment on that. Um 1196 01:37:31,679 --> 01:37:36,719 just about the curling club with the beam. 1197 01:37:34,320 --> 01:37:41,119 » I've reached out to Eric Villanov from Villanov Engineering. Um I'm waiting to 1198 01:37:39,520 --> 01:37:44,719 get [clears throat] timeline from him. So I I can't comment on it because I 1199 01:37:43,280 --> 01:37:48,000 don't have an answer for him. >> Okay. Are we hopeful it might be before 1200 01:37:47,119 --> 01:37:51,760 the curling season? >> I'm hoping. I'm pushing. 1201 01:37:49,760 --> 01:37:55,280 » Okay. Okay. >> I'm not hoping that I'm pushing. I am 1202 01:37:53,679 --> 01:37:59,119 pushing and [laughter] I'm hopeful that it will be successful. 1203 01:37:58,719 --> 01:38:01,360 Okay, >> we we all know that I can push pretty 1204 01:38:00,719 --> 01:38:07,262 hard. >> Okay, 1205 01:38:03,360 --> 01:38:07,262 » you're unleashed. We go. [laughter] 1206 01:38:08,560 --> 01:38:14,880 » Okay, if there's any is there any further questions for the public works 1207 01:38:12,000 --> 01:38:21,199 manager? >> Okay, there being none, if I can get um 1208 01:38:19,280 --> 01:38:26,000 uh a vote to accept the acknowledge receipt of the reports. Those in favor 1209 01:38:23,600 --> 01:38:30,880 and that is carried. Okay, moving on to correspondence action 1210 01:38:28,239 --> 01:38:35,360 items 9.1. We have the Horn Paint Snow Bear 1211 01:38:32,480 --> 01:38:39,719 Snowmobile Club second annual quad scavenger hunt and bingo hunt. 1212 01:38:40,320 --> 01:38:44,600 They are looking for a donation 1213 01:38:47,679 --> 01:38:51,000 to my questions. 1214 01:38:51,199 --> 01:38:54,840 Oh, right there. 1215 01:38:57,840 --> 01:39:02,639 So, I open up the floor for discussion from council. 1216 01:39:02,000 --> 01:39:07,440 Go ahead. >> I attended the first one uh and uh I 1217 01:39:05,199 --> 01:39:13,360 thought it was well attended, extremely well organized and an awful lot of fun. 1218 01:39:10,560 --> 01:39:17,760 It was uh great for Horn Payne and Adette did an amazing job and all the 1219 01:39:15,119 --> 01:39:21,600 the people that were helping her and uh I'm sure this year is going to be even 1220 01:39:19,119 --> 01:39:25,600 better than last year. Yeah, I agree. 1221 01:39:24,000 --> 01:39:28,880 » It brought in a lot of people. >> Absolutely. 1222 01:39:26,239 --> 01:39:30,639 » To town and it highlighted our hotel and it was Yeah, 1223 01:39:30,000 --> 01:39:33,280 » very nice. >> It was very It was a lot of fun. 1224 01:39:33,013 --> 01:39:36,280 [clears throat] >> Mhm. 1225 01:39:38,320 --> 01:39:47,760 » Okay. Any further comments or questions? >> Okay. Just to direct the discussion. So, 1226 01:39:45,199 --> 01:39:52,320 do we have room in our budget to give anything right now? 1227 01:39:51,040 --> 01:39:58,880 Sorry. >> Yes. Um there's so far in 2026 there's 1228 01:39:55,760 --> 01:40:06,000 been a $500 donation already processed. There is to my understanding a $1,000 um 1229 01:40:02,960 --> 01:40:10,719 commitment for the Santa Claus which is an ongoing I guess annual thing. So 1230 01:40:08,000 --> 01:40:16,719 there's 1500 there out of the 4,000 that has already been identified as um spent 1231 01:40:14,400 --> 01:40:21,840 if you want to call it that. Um the other question had to do with related to 1232 01:40:19,280 --> 01:40:26,639 this had to do with inind donations which we talked about prior. They're not 1233 01:40:24,159 --> 01:40:30,960 budgeted for in in the sense that we've included that in the budget. It's not a 1234 01:40:28,320 --> 01:40:36,000 cash transaction in any event. It's really good just an entry for us to 1235 01:40:33,199 --> 01:40:44,159 record how much it's in lost revenue there is by doing an inind say waving of 1236 01:40:39,520 --> 01:40:48,719 fees at the uh arena for for hockey or some of the other events that have been 1237 01:40:45,920 --> 01:40:55,040 um agreed to that they can have the facility for no cost. So um in that 1238 01:40:52,080 --> 01:40:58,080 sense we've um recorded or sorry we've calculated we haven't done any 1239 01:40:56,400 --> 01:41:04,080 recordings in our general ledger. You won't see it in your grant reports at 1240 01:40:59,520 --> 01:41:11,440 all in any form but um we've calculated uh just a little over $3,300 1241 01:41:07,280 --> 01:41:16,800 of inind revenues that have been waved um for people who 1242 01:41:14,239 --> 01:41:21,520 » Okay. So in the line item under the budget cash amount though there should 1243 01:41:18,719 --> 01:41:25,520 be you said it was 5,000 or 4,000 >> total was included in the budget and 1244 01:41:23,679 --> 01:41:33,920 1,500 is >> okay. So we have 2500 remaining. 1245 01:41:29,520 --> 01:41:38,480 » Okay. So we do have 2500 remaining. Is there a proposed amount on the floor 1246 01:41:36,239 --> 01:41:42,159 for a donation? >> What did we donate last year? 1247 01:41:41,280 --> 01:41:47,800 » We >> I don't believe we donated. No 1248 01:41:43,760 --> 01:41:47,800 precedence right now for it. 1249 01:41:48,880 --> 01:41:53,920 » I don't think we were asked last year. >> No. 1250 01:41:52,159 --> 01:41:56,320 » And was the Horn Fire Department involved last year? There was. 1251 01:41:55,520 --> 01:41:59,840 » Yeah. >> They were. 1252 01:41:57,040 --> 01:42:02,159 » Mhm. >> They were washing. 1253 01:42:00,560 --> 01:42:06,320 » This was an added feature. >> Yeah. After you got out mud, they would 1254 01:42:04,080 --> 01:42:09,600 wash it out for for a donation. >> That actually was a really good idea. 1255 01:42:08,639 --> 01:42:14,400 » Yeah. >> Oh, fantastic. 1256 01:42:11,760 --> 01:42:17,119 I like that idea. Support our own fire department. 1257 01:42:15,440 --> 01:42:20,840 » It's a big big thing. >> Yeah. 1258 01:42:17,840 --> 01:42:20,840 » So, 1259 01:42:24,880 --> 01:42:29,840 » well, propose a number, council. Don't wait for me. [laughter] 1260 01:42:27,920 --> 01:42:36,000 » How much was on the >> We have 2500 left in our budget. I'm not 1261 01:42:32,560 --> 01:42:39,440 sure if we have any other items coming forward. We usually 1262 01:42:37,679 --> 01:42:43,119 » the the Christmas thing is already accounted for. 1263 01:42:40,080 --> 01:42:47,760 » That's already accounted for. Yeah. >> And then we do put our name on the 1264 01:42:45,760 --> 01:42:51,920 curling club ice. Is that out of our donations? 1265 01:42:49,040 --> 01:42:56,159 » Um I I'm not sure. >> Okay. 1266 01:42:52,880 --> 01:43:00,880 » I would you are going to get um more requests for donations before the end of 1267 01:42:58,080 --> 01:43:05,760 the year I would imagine. Um I I can't remember off the top of my head. Do you 1268 01:43:02,400 --> 01:43:10,320 remember who who I've asked in the past? >> Last year. 1269 01:43:07,360 --> 01:43:14,159 » Last year there was kids sport for 500. There was 1270 01:43:12,080 --> 01:43:17,840 cal just at the 500 1271 01:43:17,440 --> 01:43:20,239 » and >> that's the food bank. So we definitely 1272 01:43:19,679 --> 01:43:25,840 need to >> yeah hold back that up. 1273 01:43:21,840 --> 01:43:29,600 » So that was done in 2025 >> kids was that was autism 1274 01:43:28,320 --> 01:43:32,960 » I believe. I can't tell. >> Okay. 1275 01:43:30,639 --> 01:43:38,080 » I'm just trying to think of the I think the week might have it's coming again. 1276 01:43:36,719 --> 01:43:40,159 » I'm good with 500. >> Yeah, 1277 01:43:38,639 --> 01:43:42,960 » I'm good with that, too, if that's available. 1278 01:43:41,760 --> 01:43:48,560 » Okay. >> Yeah. I'm just thinking I I'm like we 1279 01:43:46,080 --> 01:43:51,360 have we did 500 to the food bank. 1280 01:43:50,639 --> 01:43:54,480 » Yeah. >> Okay. 1281 01:43:52,080 --> 01:43:58,560 » 500 to kids seems to be the go-to number. 1282 01:43:55,360 --> 01:44:03,280 » Yeah. I'm just uh I would be willing give a thousand because it is their 1283 01:44:00,320 --> 01:44:07,520 second. We didn't give last year and >> I that's just my thinking on it and say 1284 01:44:05,920 --> 01:44:13,920 that like we didn't give last year. we didn't have the opportunity. And I think 1285 01:44:09,440 --> 01:44:19,119 that also with in um to send our donation policy so they get their asks 1286 01:44:16,239 --> 01:44:24,719 in earlier because we might be able to really spread out our branding as an 1287 01:44:21,360 --> 01:44:29,119 inkind donation too for things like I would like to see the township be able 1288 01:44:27,119 --> 01:44:33,600 to have if it's part if they give out loot bags. I don't I don't want to get 1289 01:44:30,560 --> 01:44:35,119 in the involvement of it, but >> Yeah. 1290 01:44:34,000 --> 01:44:38,880 » Yeah. >> I I kind of snickered when you said that 1291 01:44:37,040 --> 01:44:40,800 because that's the exact number I had in my mind. 1292 01:44:39,440 --> 01:44:46,440 » Oh, and you didn't speak it. >> I didn't [laughter] I was trying to see 1293 01:44:42,560 --> 01:44:46,440 where everybody else was. 1294 01:44:46,719 --> 01:44:52,239 » Sorry. That's all. But yeah, I'm fine with that actually. So, or somewhere in 1295 01:44:51,520 --> 01:44:57,280 between. >> Well, money stays right in town and it's 1296 01:44:54,159 --> 01:45:02,560 such a great draw for the hotel. And uh and on another note, the the Scoo Club, 1297 01:45:00,719 --> 01:45:05,440 they do an awful lot of there's an awful lot of hours being put in for and it's 1298 01:45:04,480 --> 01:45:07,040 volunteer 100% >> volunteer. 1299 01:45:06,400 --> 01:45:11,920 » Mhm. >> And they are not they're not getting the 1300 01:45:08,719 --> 01:45:16,480 funds like they used to from the um um Scoo like the organization, the 1301 01:45:14,000 --> 01:45:20,480 association. So I'd be fine with a thousand as well. 1302 01:45:17,840 --> 01:45:29,440 » Okay. And then that leaves us 1,500 left for any other upcoming. So, um, 1303 01:45:25,520 --> 01:45:33,040 okay. So, um, I do have a the staff did prep prepare me a motion. I'll read it 1304 01:45:31,679 --> 01:45:37,119 out first and then we can get them over in a second. Uh, be it resolved that 1305 01:45:35,199 --> 01:45:42,159 council does hereby authorize a donation of $1,000 to the Hornpane Snowmobile 1306 01:45:40,080 --> 01:45:45,760 Snow Bear Snowmobile Club for their second annual quad scavenger bingo hunt 1307 01:45:44,400 --> 01:45:50,560 in support of the Hornpane Fire Department and the Horn Snow Snow Bear 1308 01:45:48,560 --> 01:45:55,119 Snowmobile Club. Oh my goodness, I had a hard time. And it did have an empty spot 1309 01:45:52,560 --> 01:45:59,199 there. So I just put in the thousand. Everyone's good with that motion. Okay. 1310 01:45:57,280 --> 01:46:04,239 I'll get a mover and a seconder for it. Moved by John Perov, second by Peter 1311 01:46:01,280 --> 01:46:11,199 Kistaker. And I won't reread it again. Those in favor and that is carried. 1312 01:46:07,760 --> 01:46:17,679 Okay. So um yeah, I would just definitely send sincere thanks from 1313 01:46:13,679 --> 01:46:21,679 council. We're glad to see that um the community members feel inspired to 1314 01:46:20,080 --> 01:46:26,000 do things and welcome people to our community and they have a place to they 1315 01:46:23,760 --> 01:46:31,679 can stay and I'm excited to see and hear about how great it is. If I had a quad, 1316 01:46:28,719 --> 01:46:35,920 I would I would uh participate, but I don't have one of those. [laughter] 1317 01:46:33,679 --> 01:46:37,360 » I I can honestly see this event getting bigger. 1318 01:46:36,560 --> 01:46:42,480 » Yes. Yes. >> You know, and uh even like they're at 1319 01:46:39,920 --> 01:46:47,440 the center of Ontario. They're they're everywhere on our trails like 1320 01:46:45,040 --> 01:46:52,000 everywhere. So it it's a big thing. They're using our centers. They're it's 1321 01:46:50,719 --> 01:46:57,760 to me it can get bigger. >> Yeah. And I do think, you know, when we 1322 01:46:53,920 --> 01:47:02,960 went to the um sportsman show last year, I do think that's something we should 1323 01:46:59,280 --> 01:47:07,199 discuss as a pivot as really looking at the investment areas where we can go to 1324 01:47:05,040 --> 01:47:12,400 find further investment because when we were at the sportsman show, the booth 1325 01:47:09,440 --> 01:47:17,280 behind us was another developer and we ended up making that contact and had two 1326 01:47:14,560 --> 01:47:22,159 other meetings with them and um and our booth was really busy. I have to give a 1327 01:47:19,280 --> 01:47:27,679 shout out to Odet and Deni and uh it was busy. It was a it was a really good 1328 01:47:24,159 --> 01:47:33,520 place to showcase our community and the one thing that kept coming up was um the 1329 01:47:31,199 --> 01:47:40,159 quality of our snowmobile trails but people looking for places to at ATV with 1330 01:47:38,000 --> 01:47:43,840 uh safety of their families. That's what they were looking because some of the 1331 01:47:41,280 --> 01:47:46,880 places that people can go it's quite congested because those are the only 1332 01:47:45,440 --> 01:47:52,080 places, right? >> So um I would be definitely in favor of 1333 01:47:50,080 --> 01:47:55,440 us supporting that and having a delegation of different people like we 1334 01:47:53,760 --> 01:47:59,840 did. The three of us worked really well together and and our booth looked 1335 01:47:57,840 --> 01:48:05,760 fantastic with all our new branding and the stuff that uh the snowmo uh the 1336 01:48:02,400 --> 01:48:12,719 snowmobile club brought in the hotel. So >> yeah. So yeah, I'm excited. Maybe I'll 1337 01:48:09,600 --> 01:48:17,119 borrow a quad [laughter] or I might get stuck or not know how to drive it. I 1338 01:48:16,000 --> 01:48:19,280 haven't driven one since I was a teenager. 1339 01:48:17,520 --> 01:48:23,440 » Guys like to use a wenches. So if you get stock 1340 01:48:20,080 --> 01:48:28,719 » Oh, I'd be rescued. Oh, [laughter] >> that's funny. 1341 01:48:25,199 --> 01:48:33,520 » Okay. Okay. Moving on to 9.2 is support for sustainable provincial grant funding 1342 01:48:30,800 --> 01:48:37,199 for fire services Ontario. If I can get a mover in a second, please. Moved by 1343 01:48:35,280 --> 01:48:41,040 councelor Peter Kissmaker, second by councelor John Perov. Whereas the 1344 01:48:39,280 --> 01:48:44,880 township of Hornpane relies on its volunteer fire service to provide 1345 01:48:42,800 --> 01:48:48,880 essential emergency response and fire protection services in a rural and 1346 01:48:47,119 --> 01:48:52,239 remote community and whereas municipalities are responsible for 1347 01:48:50,560 --> 01:48:56,960 meeting proincially mandated fire protection requirements largely through 1348 01:48:54,560 --> 01:49:00,159 local property taxation. Therefore, be it resolved that the council of the 1349 01:48:58,400 --> 01:49:04,960 corporation of the township of Hornpane support the town of Plymouth, Wyoming's 1350 01:49:03,119 --> 01:49:09,520 resolution calling on the province of Ontario to establish permanent, stable, 1351 01:49:07,679 --> 01:49:14,400 predictable, and non-competitive provincial funding for municipal fire 1352 01:49:12,159 --> 01:49:18,159 services, including operational readiness and training costs. Be a 1353 01:49:16,560 --> 01:49:22,480 further resolve that this resolution be forwarded to the premier of Ontario, the 1354 01:49:20,000 --> 01:49:26,960 minister of the solicitor general, the minister of municipal affairs and 1355 01:49:24,000 --> 01:49:32,480 housing, Bill Rosenberg, MPP for Alma, Manatulan, AO Roma, and the town of 1356 01:49:30,239 --> 01:49:37,440 Plymouth, Wyoming. And I just have one question to the 1357 01:49:35,119 --> 01:49:42,320 resolution. None of these 1358 01:49:40,400 --> 01:49:46,800 U ministers, well, you don't have their names anyway. 1359 01:49:44,080 --> 01:49:48,480 the the shuffle happened today. So I was but the names aren't there so it doesn't 1360 01:49:48,239 --> 01:49:53,119 matter. >> If I may you'll actually notice I 1361 01:49:50,719 --> 01:49:57,280 started changing the resolutions from having names to just saying premier or 1362 01:49:55,679 --> 01:50:01,440 minister because some of the time it would get 1363 01:49:59,760 --> 01:50:06,400 shuffled before we'd send it and then it would be so now I just have titles. 1364 01:50:03,679 --> 01:50:12,239 » That's perfect. Yes. >> Okay. And uh I strongly believe in this 1365 01:50:10,560 --> 01:50:18,560 resolution. Um 1366 01:50:14,159 --> 01:50:23,440 those in favor and that is carried. Okay. 9.3 Federation of Northern Ontario 1367 01:50:21,600 --> 01:50:29,920 Municipalities Spenom request for municipal support prescriptive divers 1368 01:50:26,239 --> 01:50:33,199 diver diversion program. Gosh if I can get a mover in a second please 1369 01:50:31,600 --> 01:50:36,560 councel. Moved by councelor Peter Kismator. Second by councelor John 1370 01:50:34,719 --> 01:50:41,199 Perov. Whereas the township of foreign pain recognizes the need to protect 1371 01:50:38,400 --> 01:50:46,320 patients and the public from diversion diversion of prescribed safer supply 1372 01:50:44,239 --> 01:50:51,119 medications. And whereas the prescription diversion project and 1373 01:50:48,960 --> 01:50:56,159 addiction medicine Canada are requesting strengthened prescribing expectations 1374 01:50:53,440 --> 01:50:58,560 for safer supply medications in Ontario. Therefore, be it resolved that the 1375 01:50:57,440 --> 01:51:02,560 council of the corporation of the township of hornne supports the request 1376 01:51:00,480 --> 01:51:07,199 that the college of physicians and surgeons of Ontario require directly 1377 01:51:04,880 --> 01:51:11,679 observed consumption of safer supply medications by a regulated health care 1378 01:51:09,440 --> 01:51:17,600 professional and establish a maximum daily dose equivalent to 5 mg 1379 01:51:14,719 --> 01:51:20,800 hydromorphone tablets. Be further resolved that this resolution be 1380 01:51:18,960 --> 01:51:24,719 forwarded to the college of physicians and surgeons of Ontario, the health 1381 01:51:22,960 --> 01:51:29,920 minister of health and deputy premier phenomen and the prescription diversion 1382 01:51:27,119 --> 01:51:35,639 project co-chairs. Okay. Any uh comment on that? 1383 01:51:38,239 --> 01:51:45,119 » I open the floor. Go ahead, Kelsey. >> I'm not even sure what that all means. I 1384 01:51:42,480 --> 01:51:51,280 don't feel qualified to even make. Yeah, that's kind of how I felt too was 1385 01:51:48,639 --> 01:51:57,520 I'm concerned that first of all, if we don't have the the 1386 01:51:54,560 --> 01:52:05,280 people in place to be able to monitor and then people are not going to receive 1387 01:52:00,400 --> 01:52:11,199 their dose, I I so I I would I would actually like to defer this till I 1388 01:52:07,920 --> 01:52:13,520 because I I really don't know enough to support it. 1389 01:52:12,000 --> 01:52:19,840 » Yeah, absolutely. >> If council. Uh, so I do need a motion to 1390 01:52:16,400 --> 01:52:25,280 defer, right? So, um, I'll put a motion to defer 9.3 1391 01:52:22,560 --> 01:52:30,639 to, um, I think the November or a meeting in the 1392 01:52:28,800 --> 01:52:34,960 future um to bring back to council. So, if a 1393 01:52:33,440 --> 01:52:38,719 mover and a seconder for that, please. Moved by councelor John Perov, second by 1394 01:52:36,719 --> 01:52:43,520 councelor Peter Kismaker. I was going to say you have uh councelor Peter 1395 01:52:41,520 --> 01:52:47,360 Kissmaker moving it and seconding it for the original ones. We can keep them. 1396 01:52:45,360 --> 01:52:52,960 » Oh, okay. We can keep that way. Okay. >> So, those in favor of the deferral and 1397 01:52:50,239 --> 01:52:59,679 that is carried. May I ask a question? >> Yes. Um so, I received this item from 1398 01:52:57,040 --> 01:53:04,560 Phenomena. I also was confused by it, but I wanted to bring it to council and 1399 01:53:02,000 --> 01:53:10,360 uh see if you guys had any if you wanted me to ask for further information or if 1400 01:53:06,480 --> 01:53:10,360 there's anything Cuz 1401 01:53:16,480 --> 01:53:23,440 when you're talking eight pills of so many milligrams, 8 milligram 1402 01:53:21,040 --> 01:53:26,239 hydromemorphine, I I take it that's the replacement for if you have a 1403 01:53:26,000 --> 01:53:30,823 » Yes. >> a substance abuse like an addiction. 1404 01:53:28,803 --> 01:53:30,823 [clears throat] 1405 01:53:32,080 --> 01:53:37,920 » Yeah. I am certainly not qualified enough to know about the 1406 01:53:36,560 --> 01:53:41,400 » no >> um dosages. 1407 01:53:43,868 --> 01:53:45,888 [clears throat] 1408 01:53:55,280 --> 01:54:00,639 Yeah, I'm not sure. I'm wondering if we um 1409 01:53:59,040 --> 01:54:06,080 is this something that we can reach out to the our health unit about and ask 1410 01:54:03,760 --> 01:54:10,239 them and then bring that information back like our local I'm just worried 1411 01:54:08,320 --> 01:54:15,119 that I like >> thankfully you know like we we do see 1412 01:54:12,960 --> 01:54:18,800 homelessness and horn pain where people are having a difficulty finding places 1413 01:54:17,274 --> 01:54:22,000 [snorts] to live for work or they're sleeping in their car or they're couch 1414 01:54:20,159 --> 01:54:25,760 surfing or they're sharing you know one house 1415 01:54:23,520 --> 01:54:33,040 but I'm not sure if this is related to that and I just I feel really ill 1416 01:54:28,960 --> 01:54:37,040 informed of what I'm supporting. So I think that would be the area to reach 1417 01:54:35,119 --> 01:54:40,239 out to them and ask them and they would give us better clarity on it. I think 1418 01:54:39,360 --> 01:54:42,080 » absolutely. >> Council, you in favor of that? 1419 01:54:41,599 --> 01:54:43,440 » Yes. >> Yeah. 1420 01:54:42,960 --> 01:54:48,320 » Yeah. >> And then you can bring it back once we 1421 01:54:45,360 --> 01:54:56,080 have that information. >> Yeah. Yeah. cuz I'm I'm at a loss. 1422 01:54:54,159 --> 01:55:01,360 And maybe when we do bring it back, it might end up feeding into our 1423 01:55:00,080 --> 01:55:03,920 community safety. >> Mhm. Well, 1424 01:55:02,560 --> 01:55:07,920 » well-being. So, >> that has come up. 1425 01:55:05,040 --> 01:55:12,800 » Yes. Okay. So, that deferred and moving to 1426 01:55:10,960 --> 01:55:17,520 correspondence information only. If I can get a mover and a seconder to open 1427 01:55:14,239 --> 01:55:20,800 the floor, please. Moved by councelor Peter Kissmaker, second by councelor 1428 01:55:19,280 --> 01:55:25,199 John Perov. Be it resolved that council does hereby no receipt of the correspond 1429 01:55:22,880 --> 01:55:28,239 correspondence information information only packet 1430 01:55:26,639 --> 01:55:32,320 attached at the agenda the regular meeting of council held on Thursday 1431 01:55:29,760 --> 01:55:37,679 September 10th 2026. Okay. Any comments on the 1432 01:55:36,000 --> 01:55:41,679 agenda packet or the correspondence only? Go ahead. 1433 01:55:38,560 --> 01:55:48,480 » Um I did want to mention item 10.3. That's uh the library's trunk or treat 1434 01:55:43,440 --> 01:55:51,840 event for 2026. Um I imagine for the obvious reason council will not be 1435 01:55:50,239 --> 01:55:57,520 participating. Um however, I am more than happy to 1436 01:55:55,199 --> 01:56:02,560 participate on the townships. Uh >> I think the office should Yeah. 1437 01:55:59,280 --> 01:56:10,480 » Yeah. I usually do for the office, but I uh am happy to again this year. Um, but 1438 01:56:06,639 --> 01:56:14,639 I did still include the invitation so that council is aware that it is 1439 01:56:11,840 --> 01:56:17,280 happening. >> Just invite any other employees that 1440 01:56:16,239 --> 01:56:20,880 might want to join in. >> Yeah, of course. 1441 01:56:18,400 --> 01:56:24,840 » Yeah. >> Okay. Thank you for that, Jen. 1442 01:56:27,440 --> 01:56:34,440 » Okay. Any other comments on the information only 1443 01:56:34,880 --> 01:56:41,040 » our election [clears throat] 26 >> October 26th. 1444 01:56:38,880 --> 01:56:45,920 » Okay. So this be an initiation for you in the council. 1445 01:56:42,480 --> 01:56:50,480 » It could I mean if council wants us to prepare [laughter] 1446 01:56:47,840 --> 01:56:55,130 the decorations for a vehicle for trunk for trunk retreat. 1447 01:56:52,400 --> 01:56:57,150 » Do we get to pick their costumes? [laughter] 1448 01:56:57,920 --> 01:57:02,390 be careful. We're like dressing ourselves. [laughter] 1449 01:57:03,199 --> 01:57:06,440 » Oh man, 1450 01:57:07,199 --> 01:57:15,679 okay. I do have some comments on um I want to say thank you to Cindy for uh 1451 01:57:12,960 --> 01:57:20,560 putting in the variance report. I liked seeing that on the agenda and being able 1452 01:57:17,440 --> 01:57:25,599 to go through and I think it's I I just want to see that and so that we're on 1453 01:57:23,280 --> 01:57:28,840 top of it and thank you for that. So much appreciated. 1454 01:57:29,599 --> 01:57:34,280 What else was there? Something else. 1455 01:57:41,360 --> 01:57:48,320 Okay. I I thought I had saw it on here. I just wanted to highlight I could 1456 01:57:45,760 --> 01:57:53,840 highlight as committee board updates but um there's a consultation process open 1457 01:57:50,560 --> 01:57:58,239 right now with AMO and I participated yesterday and it's about the new 1458 01:57:56,639 --> 01:58:03,199 integrity commissioner and code of conduct processes and the definitions 1459 01:58:00,960 --> 01:58:08,239 and it was really well done. I have to a shout out to AMO for um them 1460 01:58:06,320 --> 01:58:14,080 highlighting it. There is another one coming up. I believe it's in your emails 1461 01:58:11,199 --> 01:58:18,960 and there's a there's a a longer consultation process to put in comments. 1462 01:58:17,280 --> 01:58:25,840 And why I wanted to flag this for council was that um 1463 01:58:23,199 --> 01:58:32,159 some of the suggestions are to have annual training definitely training on a 1464 01:58:28,880 --> 01:58:35,440 new council. But my and I agree with that. I agree with annual training. I 1465 01:58:33,840 --> 01:58:42,400 agree with the training of new council. My concern is is that um who's going to 1466 01:58:39,440 --> 01:58:47,199 pay for those costs? And if the government's defining the qualifications 1467 01:58:44,880 --> 01:58:50,719 of an integrity commissioner, I agree that the government should provide a 1468 01:58:48,800 --> 01:58:54,560 list that we just get out of that completely and they just provide us the 1469 01:58:52,480 --> 01:58:59,840 list and we pick every four or five years, you know, or put the RFP out and 1470 01:58:56,800 --> 01:59:03,360 they have to be on the list. Um then that saves us costs because we're not 1471 01:59:01,679 --> 01:59:07,119 doing that background research. They've already been vetted. But then with the 1472 01:59:05,679 --> 01:59:12,639 training because we've seen this with the fire department already that they 1473 01:59:10,080 --> 01:59:18,480 put in new regulations and new qualification standards and we we have 1474 01:59:15,760 --> 01:59:23,679 to foot the bill. So I just encourage you to look at your email for that and 1475 01:59:21,119 --> 01:59:31,599 the registry is open I believe till the end of the month for the uh to comment 1476 01:59:27,599 --> 01:59:36,480 on those items and um and we we saw it we saw it with the policing boards 1477 01:59:33,679 --> 01:59:40,480 there's more cost there and these are, you know, 1478 01:59:38,320 --> 01:59:44,639 and I think I I agree with the training. I think if there was a provincewide 1479 01:59:42,960 --> 01:59:50,239 webinar that you had to take annually and it was, you know, 45 bucks per 1480 01:59:46,960 --> 01:59:54,239 person and it was simplified and like that would work. And then a bigger 1481 01:59:51,760 --> 01:59:58,400 training every time we have a new uh council coming that would be like with a 1482 01:59:56,400 --> 02:00:02,800 bit of a more in-depth training. So every fourth year you have a more 1483 01:59:59,920 --> 02:00:07,760 in-depth training at a cost of say 150 a person or something. and it's a webinar 1484 02:00:04,400 --> 02:00:11,520 based, but I just and I'd like to see it standardized. So, I encourage council to 1485 02:00:10,159 --> 02:00:16,800 just look at that. And I'm sorry I thought for some reason I saw it on the 1486 02:00:13,360 --> 02:00:20,320 information only as a tagline, but 1487 02:00:18,400 --> 02:00:25,119 and I guess could I ask you, Jen, could you find that from AMO and shoot it back 1488 02:00:23,040 --> 02:00:28,159 out to council so they have those links? >> Yeah. 1489 02:00:25,520 --> 02:00:31,040 » Yeah. It came in our emails this morning. Yesterday 1490 02:00:29,119 --> 02:00:34,159 » I got it. You got it again yesterday. >> Yeah. Wednesday. Wednesday morning at 1491 02:00:32,880 --> 02:00:37,119 9:05 a.m. >> Okay. So, the yesterday's one was great. 1492 02:00:36,320 --> 02:00:42,480 And then [clears throat] is it showing you the next webinar one? 1493 02:00:39,119 --> 02:00:45,199 » Friday, September 11th. >> Friday, September 11th. So, tomorrow you 1494 02:00:44,400 --> 02:00:46,560 can take it again. >> Yes. 1495 02:00:45,520 --> 02:00:51,280 » Yeah. And it was really [clears throat] it was good. But the does it tell you 1496 02:00:48,719 --> 02:00:57,360 the um from when you can comment on the 1497 02:00:54,080 --> 02:01:02,080 government's registry? >> Uh I did see it here. Monday, September 1498 02:01:01,280 --> 02:01:06,239 14th. >> Okay. So, anyway, even if you have the 1499 02:01:04,719 --> 02:01:10,239 time, if you can go in and click, put your name down, and it's really about we 1500 02:01:08,400 --> 02:01:14,639 want the training, but we can't like small municipalities cannot afford these 1501 02:01:12,239 --> 02:01:18,159 costs of bringing like the thing that got me was I'm like, "Okay, so we're 1502 02:01:16,480 --> 02:01:21,199 going to hire an integrity commissioner, and are we paying the rates of an 1503 02:01:19,599 --> 02:01:28,719 integrity commissioner to come and give us training annually?" like I it was um 1504 02:01:26,800 --> 02:01:33,280 but I do think like having the training is important having the fouryear 1505 02:01:30,480 --> 02:01:38,800 in-depth training but we have to come with a complete plan of how that 1506 02:01:35,199 --> 02:01:43,360 training would be ser like um delivered so anyway so it's not on this list but 1507 02:01:42,000 --> 02:01:51,199 thank you John for getting that email out and uh any further comments on the 1508 02:01:48,320 --> 02:01:55,920 information only okay they're reading I uh put that to a 1509 02:01:53,360 --> 02:01:59,400 vote to receive for information and that's carried. 1510 02:01:59,520 --> 02:02:03,960 Okay. Committee and board updates 1511 02:02:06,880 --> 02:02:11,320 and I'll start with you Mr. Perov. 1512 02:02:11,360 --> 02:02:17,679 » I don't have anything to report other than I think you're going to talk about 1513 02:02:15,920 --> 02:02:20,480 the meeting we had yesterday. >> Yes. Okay. 1514 02:02:18,880 --> 02:02:24,639 » Other than that I don't have anything else to report. 1515 02:02:22,239 --> 02:02:30,320 Okay, great. Fantastic. Councelor, >> I got nothing new to report as well. 1516 02:02:26,480 --> 02:02:34,560 » Okay, perfect. Councelor Kmaker Binda, >> well, I went to the AO conference and 1517 02:02:32,639 --> 02:02:42,560 I'm really glad I went. It was very, very busy. Um, the details I think I 1518 02:02:37,920 --> 02:02:48,400 will leave up to you guys. Um, uh, I am excited that, um, I must admit I am 1519 02:02:45,760 --> 02:02:53,760 excited that we have that meeting with IE over next week. 1520 02:02:51,119 --> 02:02:58,159 um because I have been bugging steady and uh now we do have a meeting with 1521 02:02:55,920 --> 02:03:02,000 them and uh to me that's a start going forward. So 1522 02:02:59,599 --> 02:03:06,400 » so I just wanted to add that meeting was a direct [clears throat] result of um 1523 02:03:03,920 --> 02:03:10,639 councelor Kissmaker speaking with ISO at the April conference. 1524 02:03:08,480 --> 02:03:15,520 » So I'm very happy with that. >> Okay. Good. Good. 1525 02:03:13,840 --> 02:03:17,520 » And you enjoyed you had >> I learned a lot. 1526 02:03:16,560 --> 02:03:19,520 » You learned a lot. >> We were very busy. 1527 02:03:18,880 --> 02:03:23,520 » Yes. >> Yes. 1528 02:03:20,560 --> 02:03:27,280 And uh no, it was worth going. I'm glad I went. 1529 02:03:24,400 --> 02:03:34,560 » Okay, fantastic. Yeah. Um so for updates. Yes. So AMO was uh 1530 02:03:31,360 --> 02:03:41,920 fantastic. I have to say uh it was the best AMO that I had ever been to. 1531 02:03:38,000 --> 02:03:47,920 um for a few different reasons. Was the atmosphere meeting with the ministers 1532 02:03:44,560 --> 02:03:55,920 was very similar to when they had first got elected back in 2018 2019 1533 02:03:52,480 --> 02:04:00,719 » and um and taken the the government. So it so that was exciting to me. And then 1534 02:03:58,000 --> 02:04:06,159 when we um and that they had the funding envelope come out for communities with 1535 02:04:03,599 --> 02:04:11,840 no development charges because they're listening because we were getting left 1536 02:04:08,159 --> 02:04:20,320 out from big infrastructure dollars. So um and then the um just the 1537 02:04:18,320 --> 02:04:25,119 I can't even wrap my mind around it because I had never I I guess I'd 1538 02:04:23,360 --> 02:04:28,800 explain it this way. So when I went in 2019, 1539 02:04:26,639 --> 02:04:34,080 that kind of feeling was there. And then every year since then, it's been good, 1540 02:04:31,520 --> 02:04:38,080 but it kind of dissipated away. I guess they got into their jobs, their roles, 1541 02:04:35,840 --> 02:04:41,199 got inundated like we all do, like, oh my goodness, maybe this isn't what I 1542 02:04:39,360 --> 02:04:45,920 signed up for, sort of feeling. And now I feel like they're coming out of it and 1543 02:04:43,119 --> 02:04:51,280 it's it's really uh they're looking at investment expansion definitely by 1544 02:04:48,320 --> 02:04:59,280 Ontario, by Canada and trying to protect um and grow our economic base and um and 1545 02:04:55,599 --> 02:05:04,400 then the other um part that I really enjoyed being there was the people we 1546 02:05:02,239 --> 02:05:08,719 got to meet and they were responsive to us like we they were 1547 02:05:06,800 --> 02:05:15,760 » excited to see us, wanted to talk to us and um and it was overall just uh a good 1548 02:05:12,560 --> 02:05:19,119 atmosphere. So I was yeah I was really I and I said it several times it was the 1549 02:05:17,360 --> 02:05:24,239 best AMO conference that I had ever attended and uh it was well organized 1550 02:05:21,760 --> 02:05:28,480 and and they opened up the trade floor upstairs is bigger. It's expanded so 1551 02:05:26,719 --> 02:05:33,280 they put the registration down on the main floor and then so you had the full 1552 02:05:30,719 --> 02:05:37,920 old trade floor area but then the upper level too. So they had I think it was 1553 02:05:35,440 --> 02:05:41,280 all their maybe their gold sponsors or whatever in the main floor and they had 1554 02:05:39,679 --> 02:05:47,840 a nice sitting area so you could sit and chat in there and um yeah it was really 1555 02:05:43,280 --> 02:05:54,400 good and um and we were able to vote uh Roger Sangu and Kathleen from West Ning 1556 02:05:51,920 --> 02:06:02,239 in for our uh delegate. So yeah, and uh so from 1557 02:05:59,599 --> 02:06:05,679 AMO, I think Manuela's report highlights some of the follow-ups that uh need to 1558 02:06:04,159 --> 02:06:09,440 be done and that we have one more meeting coming up 1559 02:06:07,199 --> 02:06:16,239 » and um and from there uh it's been busy since 1560 02:06:14,239 --> 02:06:19,840 like I said yesterday in the meetings, I was only on day two of this week and I 1561 02:06:18,320 --> 02:06:23,119 couldn't remember the long weekend I had. [laughter] 1562 02:06:20,960 --> 02:06:27,679 It was one after another yesterday. I think I missed lunch and the it was yeah 1563 02:06:25,840 --> 02:06:32,400 between work and meetings and then work and yeah so it was crazy day but but uh 1564 02:06:30,880 --> 02:06:37,280 first I wanted to highlight was the northeast superiors may marriage group 1565 02:06:33,840 --> 02:06:44,320 so we had that in the morning and um I forwarded uh some information to Manuela 1566 02:06:39,840 --> 02:06:49,679 about it and uh we had a group come in that are looking at transporting propane 1567 02:06:47,599 --> 02:06:56,239 and they want to have more delivery centers in Northern Ontario that are 1568 02:06:52,239 --> 02:06:59,440 link to rail. So, um I've requested that she reach out and we have this 1569 02:06:57,760 --> 02:07:04,719 conversation with them and we get this moving forward for our community because 1570 02:07:01,520 --> 02:07:10,560 if we do move forward uh with waste resource or even the new appetite again 1571 02:07:07,840 --> 02:07:14,480 for a spur, these are more people that could use that uh facility off the CN's 1572 02:07:13,440 --> 02:07:18,239 main line. >> So, so that was really an exciting 1573 02:07:16,480 --> 02:07:21,920 project. We have the slides for that. Are they going to be on our October 1574 02:07:19,599 --> 02:07:25,440 meeting? I'm requesting that they come for that if they can. 1575 02:07:23,280 --> 02:07:31,760 » That would be fantastic. So, we'll be able to start a dialogue with them and 1576 02:07:28,239 --> 02:07:36,000 um and they're uh a newer company that's uh bridging out into Northern Ontario. 1577 02:07:34,000 --> 02:07:40,560 So, that was pretty exciting. Um the other thing that we uh talked about in 1578 02:07:38,560 --> 02:07:47,360 the past and I said let's continue that conversation is transportation routes 1579 02:07:43,040 --> 02:07:51,920 for the bus services. So um and I had talked previously with the chief of 1580 02:07:49,360 --> 02:07:56,560 constants lake and the mayor of Hurst and trying to get so that Horn Payne's 1581 02:07:54,400 --> 02:08:02,079 connected to both White River and I talked to of course uh Mayor Tara Hart 1582 02:07:59,280 --> 02:08:05,840 at the mayor's group about this and and connecting with her so that people can 1583 02:08:04,159 --> 02:08:11,440 move in and out of our community seamlessly. So um and there is some 1584 02:08:08,800 --> 02:08:18,560 dollars and some funds available for that to move that forward. So, so that 1585 02:08:14,239 --> 02:08:23,520 that'll come. And um we went through our list of uh all the ongoing action items 1586 02:08:21,280 --> 02:08:28,800 and we're going to create a sublist underneath of all the items that we 1587 02:08:26,719 --> 02:08:32,159 completed because every time we do an action item at the mayor's group, we 1588 02:08:30,639 --> 02:08:36,800 just take it off the list. So, we just have this ongoing list of like a laundry 1589 02:08:34,400 --> 02:08:41,440 list, but we we don't know what we've done. So it was a suggestion of someone 1590 02:08:39,119 --> 02:08:47,679 at the meeting yesterday because that table could completely change up except 1591 02:08:43,440 --> 02:08:51,760 one that they the incoming um new mayors uh whoever they may be will be able to 1592 02:08:49,920 --> 02:08:56,079 see what was done in the past and they can because we even us for the eight 1593 02:08:54,000 --> 02:09:00,480 years that I've sat at the table we've had topics come up from somebody and I'm 1594 02:08:58,239 --> 02:09:04,480 like I think we did that like I think we have information on that and um and 1595 02:09:02,560 --> 02:09:09,280 they'll probably looking uh we'll probably be looking at doing some sort 1596 02:09:06,560 --> 02:09:14,320 of regional strategic plan in the next three years. So, so anyway, that was a 1597 02:09:11,599 --> 02:09:21,280 really good meeting and then we went 1:00 to um Hornpane Lumber, Hornpane 1598 02:09:18,480 --> 02:09:26,719 Power and we had a really good uh meeting. I invited Manuela to join me 1599 02:09:24,960 --> 02:09:32,400 because I this all started last week with a discussion with Richard Groves 1600 02:09:28,639 --> 02:09:38,159 and um just ensuring that we're aligned, let him know what happened at AMO and um 1601 02:09:35,599 --> 02:09:44,159 uh what what I've seen and heard coming down the pipe. And um so we were 1602 02:09:41,440 --> 02:09:50,320 discussing two major concerns that they brought up to our attention was the belt 1603 02:09:47,040 --> 02:09:56,079 uh internet connection that how that affects the mill. So, um, in that 1604 02:09:53,520 --> 02:10:00,880 discussion, uh, we talked about some action items that we can do at the 1605 02:09:57,840 --> 02:10:07,119 township just to ensure that, um, we're putting pressure on Belle is, uh, Belle 1606 02:10:04,079 --> 02:10:13,040 received money for account activity with our name listed to it. So, trying to 1607 02:10:09,840 --> 02:10:18,400 find out what that is and how if that if any way could help us. Um, and then 1608 02:10:16,239 --> 02:10:21,040 following up. I can't remember all the action items now off the top of my head. 1609 02:10:19,840 --> 02:10:22,239 I think there was three, right? It's not in that book. 1610 02:10:21,840 --> 02:10:24,800 » No. >> Yeah. 1611 02:10:22,560 --> 02:10:30,480 » But there was we had a good discussion and and we had uh Yeah, we had and I got 1612 02:10:27,360 --> 02:10:35,440 a clear understanding of why the internet affects the power. So power 1613 02:10:32,560 --> 02:10:38,880 plant and then um when hydro one actually goes down and they can't they 1614 02:10:37,119 --> 02:10:43,599 got to shut down as well and what the cost is of bringing that back up. 1615 02:10:41,599 --> 02:10:47,440 » We had battery banks was a big discussion. 1616 02:10:44,400 --> 02:10:52,480 » Yeah. So we had a big discussion um on battery banks and some other ideas which 1617 02:10:50,079 --> 02:10:58,400 we uh decided that after the election that discussion should continue. Greg 1618 02:10:54,880 --> 02:11:05,520 was quite interested to hear more and um and and I should step back on Tuesday 1619 02:11:02,000 --> 02:11:10,800 uh the CEO of the Hornpane Power and Hurricane Lumber and I had coffee at one 1620 02:11:08,320 --> 02:11:15,599 o'clock and I did invite Manuela to that. That was an impromptu invitation 1621 02:11:12,719 --> 02:11:19,760 that got set up over the weekend and um I really enjoyed the conversation. I 1622 02:11:17,760 --> 02:11:25,199 think there's a lot of new energy and new ideas there 1623 02:11:21,360 --> 02:11:29,360 » and uh so I and I just it was really I had reached out to Tim that I always 1624 02:11:27,840 --> 02:11:32,159 want to stay aligned, right? Like let's stay aligned like where is the 1625 02:11:30,560 --> 02:11:36,719 municipality ensuring that we're helping like you think of the amount of uh 1626 02:11:34,560 --> 02:11:40,800 residents that work out at the mill and at the power plant. So that was a really 1627 02:11:39,119 --> 02:11:46,159 good discussion. and we went right to the hour and we had another meeting 1628 02:11:42,639 --> 02:11:50,639 following that. But um uh so back from that to uh Greg and 1629 02:11:48,480 --> 02:11:56,719 Richard Groves, we had a lengthy discussion about the waste to resource 1630 02:11:53,040 --> 02:12:01,440 and um I guess it was a good conversation about the possible pitfalls 1631 02:11:59,040 --> 02:12:05,840 and challenges that are going to come our way with this opportunity. So, it 1632 02:12:04,159 --> 02:12:09,440 was more of that type of discussion, which was good because we were talking 1633 02:12:07,360 --> 02:12:10,480 to people that already sell power to the grid. 1634 02:12:10,000 --> 02:12:16,560 » Yeah. >> And um and the complexities of that and 1635 02:12:14,400 --> 02:12:22,480 what you need in your PPA and what you want to get out of your PPA and um and 1636 02:12:19,440 --> 02:12:28,000 to ensure that we're always um you know, being fair and protecting our current 1637 02:12:25,520 --> 02:12:30,960 investment and our employers and our businesses that are already currently 1638 02:12:29,360 --> 02:12:35,119 here, right? We want to make sure that that's protected. So, so that meeting 1639 02:12:32,880 --> 02:12:40,560 went really well and uh like I said, we've uh scheduled something follow up 1640 02:12:36,800 --> 02:12:45,520 into uh um November for that and then we met with um the ways to resource zool 1641 02:12:43,840 --> 02:12:50,719 and uh that was the meeting John was talking to about uh later in the day and 1642 02:12:48,560 --> 02:12:57,599 we gave an update and we talked about strategies to get us prepared for um 1643 02:12:55,360 --> 02:13:01,760 moving this forward and I think we have a plan. There's not 1644 02:12:59,679 --> 02:13:08,320 much because we're in restricted acts. There's really not much we can do at 1645 02:13:04,079 --> 02:13:12,880 this time. Uh so in the background, um Zu's going to get together all of the 1646 02:13:10,560 --> 02:13:17,679 communities that he'd like to approach. And I I offered we all did that if 1647 02:13:15,920 --> 02:13:23,040 there's any ways that we can help with those interactions, we would. And um and 1648 02:13:21,360 --> 02:13:28,880 then we'll move forward after the election again, continue the project to 1649 02:13:26,000 --> 02:13:31,840 move forward. So, and uh was there anything I missed from that? No, I think 1650 02:13:30,320 --> 02:13:35,119 John >> I think you covered it. 1651 02:13:33,360 --> 02:13:39,119 » Did I? I felt like I was talking too fast. I couldn't speak earlier and then 1652 02:13:37,040 --> 02:13:41,520 now I [laughter] >> No, I think you covered everything on 1653 02:13:40,719 --> 02:13:46,400 that one. >> Yeah. Okay. Okay. 1654 02:13:44,079 --> 02:13:52,320 So, so anyway, and I was I was really pleased like um the feeling in the 1655 02:13:48,800 --> 02:13:56,942 meetings are that people want to want to get on board with us. So, that's that's 1656 02:13:54,639 --> 02:13:58,962 good. >> [laughter] 1657 02:13:59,199 --> 02:14:07,440 » So, okay. And, um, what else was there? Oh, 1658 02:14:04,880 --> 02:14:11,679 uh, one thing I did, um, I did have Ontario good roads meetings coming up, 1659 02:14:09,920 --> 02:14:16,480 uh, this, uh, the third week of September. And, um, due to some work 1660 02:14:14,400 --> 02:14:20,880 schedule stuff that happened at my work, I had to move my vacation around because 1661 02:14:18,560 --> 02:14:24,960 I should have been on vacation. But, um, so anyway, I won't be attending those. 1662 02:14:22,719 --> 02:14:31,840 and they know. So, I'll go in November for the Queens Park uh advocacy day. So, 1663 02:14:29,599 --> 02:14:40,880 but if I am able, I did tell them if I am able, I'll uh attend virtually. 1664 02:14:36,639 --> 02:14:45,920 And I think that's it for me unless you have any questions about AMO. 1665 02:14:44,079 --> 02:14:51,360 And oh, and I have to say I didn't even say that Minister Perry, Associate 1666 02:14:48,960 --> 02:14:55,040 Minister Holland, Bill Rosenberg, they all asked to come to our town. 1667 02:14:53,273 --> 02:14:58,400 [laughter] >> Yeah. And I was like, "Yeah, well, we 1668 02:14:56,400 --> 02:15:04,639 have some things you we've got a ribbon cut here." So, yeah. 1669 02:15:00,639 --> 02:15:07,119 » Yeah. So, it was it was good. >> Okay. Did I catch everything? 1670 02:15:06,320 --> 02:15:08,480 » I think so. >> Yeah. 1671 02:15:07,679 --> 02:15:13,520 » Yep. >> Okay. Okay. Then, moving on. If there's 1672 02:15:11,199 --> 02:15:17,920 no other updates, we'll move on to 12, which is new 1673 02:15:15,679 --> 02:15:20,000 business, right? Yeah. >> I think Okay. You want to speak to that? 1674 02:15:19,599 --> 02:15:23,360 I got >> Yeah. So, I apologize. First of all, I 1675 02:15:21,440 --> 02:15:30,239 made a mistake when I wrote the report. Um, so in the background, 1855885 1676 02:15:27,440 --> 02:15:36,079 Ontario Corp from St. Catherine's. Um, their submitted price was 117,400. 1677 02:15:33,599 --> 02:15:42,599 I I flipped them round and they were the complete submission more construction 1678 02:15:39,280 --> 02:15:42,599 was 735345 1679 02:15:42,639 --> 02:15:50,560 um and it was an incomplete. So line building group um quoted on the entire 1680 02:15:47,920 --> 02:15:57,840 job more construction quoted on part of the job. So the recommendation is um to 1681 02:15:54,639 --> 02:16:02,400 award the contract to live building group. So it has been awarded. This is 1682 02:15:59,840 --> 02:16:08,880 really um just for information for council um because right now you can't 1683 02:16:06,159 --> 02:16:12,159 under the restricted acts. So um we just followed the procurement bylaw and the 1684 02:16:10,480 --> 02:16:19,599 RFP that went out and they met all the criteria of the RFP and they'll be 1685 02:16:15,760 --> 02:16:24,239 starting probably October, November um it to do all the work. So that includes 1686 02:16:22,320 --> 02:16:28,800 the flooring upstairs, leveling the floor, installing the new flooring, 1687 02:16:25,920 --> 02:16:34,319 changing out most of the windows, um painting, I think upstairs and down, new 1688 02:16:31,760 --> 02:16:40,160 trim, um where needed, new painting of the doors, um moving the kitchen. The 1689 02:16:38,639 --> 02:16:43,920 kitchen's going to be relocated, I think, rather than a kitchen, it'll just 1690 02:16:41,599 --> 02:16:47,359 be a small coffee bar out in the hall because um council chambers, I'm 1691 02:16:46,080 --> 02:16:51,920 assuming, is going to be moving back upstairs so that way people can grab a 1692 02:16:49,280 --> 02:16:55,280 coffee on their way in. Um, I'd like to get rid of those filing cabinets and 1693 02:16:53,519 --> 02:16:59,359 replace them with permanent drawers. Like maybe the lower units that open as 1694 02:16:57,359 --> 02:17:03,280 drawers and the upper units as more cabinets um instead of the filing 1695 02:17:01,519 --> 02:17:09,120 cabinets so it looks a little nicer, cleaner, neater rather than those old 1696 02:17:05,040 --> 02:17:14,559 metal cabinets there. Um, the bathroom's going to be redone as well as um the 1697 02:17:12,319 --> 02:17:19,439 flooring throughout the hallway and into both the CFOs and my office as well. the 1698 02:17:17,439 --> 02:17:23,519 clerk's on my list. The clerk's office is getting enlarged. She has a tiny 1699 02:17:21,120 --> 02:17:27,840 little office. Um she can't meet with people there. There's no space. Even her 1700 02:17:25,840 --> 02:17:32,000 desk, like she has enough room for her computer. There's nowhere to put down a 1701 02:17:29,359 --> 02:17:36,399 piece of paper for someone to sign it. So that's getting enlarged. Um at the 1702 02:17:34,319 --> 02:17:40,319 end of her office where the kitchen is now there's the idea of putting a server 1703 02:17:38,319 --> 02:17:45,200 room in there because the server is very distracting. It's very noisy and 1704 02:17:42,800 --> 02:17:50,479 distracting. So that small area will become a server room. It'll get vented 1705 02:17:47,200 --> 02:17:54,399 outside um with some kind of sound suppression system in there as well. So 1706 02:17:52,479 --> 02:17:57,519 I think that covers most of it. There's probably some other little things that 1707 02:17:56,639 --> 02:18:05,359 have [clears throat] been included in there that I've missed. Um but that's it 1708 02:18:02,000 --> 02:18:08,960 pretty much. And sorry go ahead if I may. I 1709 02:18:06,160 --> 02:18:14,800 » there was Sorry. There is a wall as well to be constructed to keep the staff more 1710 02:18:11,040 --> 02:18:20,960 safe. um and and with um accessible entrance way. So, sorry. Go ahead, Jen. 1711 02:18:17,120 --> 02:18:25,120 Oh, good. Um I wanted to specify, so the submission that was incomplete, just so 1712 02:18:23,599 --> 02:18:29,439 council's aware, it wasn't just incomplete. There are there's specific 1713 02:18:27,359 --> 02:18:33,280 criteria within the procurement bylaw that if it does not meet, it is 1714 02:18:31,599 --> 02:18:39,200 automatically disqualified. It doesn't matter what the review team thinks, it's 1715 02:18:37,519 --> 02:18:43,120 in that bylaw. And there were certain things that were not met. So, it wasn't 1716 02:18:41,359 --> 02:18:46,319 just because it was a partial submission or anything. It was because there were 1717 02:18:44,719 --> 02:18:50,385 certain things that were not completed as required in the bylaw. 1718 02:18:48,319 --> 02:18:54,319 » Okay. Just wanted to make sure that that [clears throat] was 1719 02:18:52,479 --> 02:18:58,639 okay. >> Well, I'm glad to hear that the wall is 1720 02:18:56,319 --> 02:19:02,319 going to go up to provide safety in that front hall because we're one of the few 1721 02:19:00,719 --> 02:19:03,439 municipalities left that don't have that. 1722 02:19:02,880 --> 02:19:11,200 » Yeah. >> And I've uh Yeah. I I'm so glad to hear 1723 02:19:08,319 --> 02:19:15,040 that. And um just in the previous discussions that I heard with Jen's 1724 02:19:12,960 --> 02:19:19,519 office, is it going to be a dual use? Is it going to is the front the little 1725 02:19:17,120 --> 02:19:22,240 office going to be remaining as a dual use office or is it going to be one big 1726 02:19:21,439 --> 02:19:26,479 office? >> We haven't really talked about that yet. 1727 02:19:24,559 --> 02:19:32,399 Um I think there's a possibility that there could be some kind of division to 1728 02:19:30,719 --> 02:19:36,160 I I don't know that there will be enough space to actually make it a dual 1729 02:19:34,880 --> 02:19:39,599 » um >> because we are saving some of that space 1730 02:19:38,160 --> 02:19:43,439 for the server room. >> Oh, okay. Right. Right. Right. Yeah. 1731 02:19:41,599 --> 02:19:44,080 This was the preliminary discussions we had. 1732 02:19:43,840 --> 02:19:47,200 » Yeah. >> I think we were driving somewhere where 1733 02:19:46,080 --> 02:19:49,439 you told me. >> Yeah. 1734 02:19:47,599 --> 02:19:53,520 » I was excited. I was going to say also when the council 1735 02:19:51,600 --> 02:19:58,720 chambers moves upstairs, it is a much bigger space. So it would be I don't 1736 02:19:56,000 --> 02:20:06,000 think unreasonable to have even just a divided area that people can 1737 02:20:01,600 --> 02:20:08,720 use during non-counsel times. >> Oh, okay. 1738 02:20:07,040 --> 02:20:11,439 » There's also this space down there. >> Mhm. 1739 02:20:11,120 --> 02:20:15,200 » Yeah. >> Well, I'm just thinking eventually 1740 02:20:12,720 --> 02:20:20,240 you're going to need an an office for your van. That's what I was saying. Yes. 1741 02:20:18,479 --> 02:20:24,240 For a place that's not this big when you're meeting with people because 1742 02:20:21,840 --> 02:20:27,520 » I have found that sometimes it can be a bit intimidating when you're coming into 1743 02:20:26,000 --> 02:20:30,720 council chambers and >> you know I pull up the chair or you know 1744 02:20:29,280 --> 02:20:35,359 sometimes I don't sit in this chair I'll sit over there or but that sort of thing 1745 02:20:33,840 --> 02:20:39,439 that but that there's no rush on that because 1746 02:20:37,840 --> 02:20:44,479 personally I probably wouldn't use it that much but 1747 02:20:41,680 --> 02:20:49,520 » um also once the library is relocated there'll be space. Mhm. 1748 02:20:46,560 --> 02:20:54,000 » As as well both I mean this whole area will will have 1749 02:20:52,240 --> 02:20:57,680 the opportunity to look at that. >> Right. Right. Yeah. 1750 02:20:55,600 --> 02:21:01,760 » Well, even a small round table like you have in your office within council 1751 02:20:59,280 --> 02:21:04,640 chambers, it gives a smaller area. Yes. >> Where you can and it can be used for 1752 02:21:03,359 --> 02:21:07,120 something else like it's just so you're not 1753 02:21:05,520 --> 02:21:11,200 » Yeah. It's just you're not sitting at a big border table and it's 1754 02:21:10,160 --> 02:21:15,040 » you know and >> and sometimes you're discussing 1755 02:21:12,560 --> 02:21:19,120 sensitive topics. see what I did. Yeah, >> but that would work too. Just a small 1756 02:21:17,280 --> 02:21:24,080 » That's what I tried to explain, but I didn't do a good job [laughter] of a 1757 02:21:21,280 --> 02:21:27,200 little space upstairs. It could be. 1758 02:21:25,520 --> 02:21:29,200 » So, unless there's questions, that's it on. 1759 02:21:27,920 --> 02:21:32,439 » Yeah. So, is there any questions for that report? 1760 02:21:36,479 --> 02:21:41,640 » And when's the completion supposed to be done 1761 02:21:41,840 --> 02:21:49,000 » for this? I don't think It's an actual conclusion. 1762 02:21:44,960 --> 02:21:49,000 » No, there isn't on here. Okay. 1763 02:21:51,359 --> 02:21:58,479 » There may have been. I just I don't I don't think there was. We'll 1764 02:21:56,560 --> 02:22:03,840 put it. >> Okay. I just got up next. See how it's 1765 02:22:01,040 --> 02:22:07,680 going along. >> Okay. So we'll uh if I can get a mover 1766 02:22:06,000 --> 02:22:12,160 and a second to receive the report to move by councelor John per second by 1767 02:22:10,000 --> 02:22:15,439 counselor uh Belinda Kissmaker 1768 02:22:14,640 --> 02:22:20,800 be [clears throat] it resolved that council receives a CAO report 2607 RFP 1769 02:22:19,120 --> 02:22:26,880 260730 town hall renovations as information. 1770 02:22:23,439 --> 02:22:33,120 Those in favor and that's carried. Okay. Uh council discussion belt fiber. 1771 02:22:30,720 --> 02:22:42,479 So this comes out of our meeting uh yesterday with um Corning Power 1772 02:22:37,200 --> 02:22:47,600 and the difficulties they're having when basically my understanding is they'll 1773 02:22:45,520 --> 02:22:54,319 they'll internet is their main provider and their backup provider is Bell. So 1774 02:22:50,720 --> 02:23:00,640 when there's some uh when service is down they need reliable internet both in 1775 02:22:57,920 --> 02:23:09,040 manage and or in pain to ensure that it's in sync so that it can feed the 1776 02:23:03,280 --> 02:23:15,040 grid. That's very simplistic. So and um and then secondary is hydro one. when 1777 02:23:12,399 --> 02:23:24,960 when hydro is down the plant is completely down and starting the plant 1778 02:23:18,319 --> 02:23:29,520 up is very expensive. So um just on internet connections it was in the 1779 02:23:27,680 --> 02:23:34,399 hundreds of thousands of dollars that have been lost this year alone just on 1780 02:23:32,160 --> 02:23:38,720 the internet connection problems. >> So um why I wanted to have council 1781 02:23:36,399 --> 02:23:43,600 discussion was like I had mentioned earlier that there was a couple things 1782 02:23:41,600 --> 02:23:48,560 three items that had come up during the meeting and I didn't want uh staff doing 1783 02:23:46,000 --> 02:23:52,399 that without council knowing what staff were doing in the background. So, one of 1784 02:23:50,560 --> 02:23:58,399 the suggestions I made was that we look into the connection that Corn Pane has 1785 02:23:56,000 --> 02:24:03,200 with Bell over the funds they got to expand connectivity because they did get 1786 02:24:01,520 --> 02:24:13,120 substantial dollars with our name attached. Um why I went that route was 1787 02:24:08,960 --> 02:24:19,600 um that's our industrial zoning that we zoned industrial and if there's funds 1788 02:24:16,319 --> 02:24:24,880 available to run fiber out to the municipal boundary that helps us for 1789 02:24:23,200 --> 02:24:28,560 further development but then it also helps the cogen that they're just this 1790 02:24:27,920 --> 02:24:32,880 far in. >> Yeah. Um, we did have during the meeting 1791 02:24:31,040 --> 02:24:36,240 I did talk with the mayor of Manittoage because there was questions about what's 1792 02:24:34,479 --> 02:24:40,880 Manitourage's connectivity. Um, currently they don't 1793 02:24:38,720 --> 02:24:46,640 have any fiber that's being utilized in the community. Bell and Rogers are 1794 02:24:43,520 --> 02:24:52,800 currently in the community putting in fiber optic lines, but no one they're 1795 02:24:49,840 --> 02:24:58,479 not up and running and um, Mayor Moffet didn't know when that date would be um, 1796 02:24:56,160 --> 02:25:03,920 so he couldn't give me a answer on that. So hence the differences of um what's 1797 02:25:02,479 --> 02:25:09,200 happening at different ends because you're dealing with non-fiber at one end 1798 02:25:06,000 --> 02:25:13,200 and then fiber here in some respects and that we have fiber in town. Uh that was 1799 02:25:11,840 --> 02:25:18,000 news. They didn't realize we actually had fiber right in our community that 1800 02:25:15,040 --> 02:25:23,840 it's not coming from manage and that all of this information currently is running 1801 02:25:19,920 --> 02:25:28,000 on the old T1 telephone line system which um 1802 02:25:26,560 --> 02:25:32,319 ultimately we'd like to get away from but we're not sure um the power horn pin 1803 02:25:30,800 --> 02:25:37,040 power is going to look into that but from our end now that you know all the 1804 02:25:34,080 --> 02:25:43,040 kind of basics and the background is that we have some leverage because they 1805 02:25:39,760 --> 02:25:48,479 were successful as being a proponent to provide us with um fiber and um so we 1806 02:25:46,960 --> 02:25:53,359 need to look into that. So council is fine with that. 1807 02:25:49,600 --> 02:25:58,800 » Manuel can find out about that. >> Um and then there's two other things 1808 02:25:56,240 --> 02:26:03,439 that weren't they were more minor and I cannot remember right now. They will 1809 02:26:01,280 --> 02:26:06,439 come to me. Um 1810 02:26:09,200 --> 02:26:18,640 yeah and then there would be continued dialogue with uh the foreign pain power 1811 02:26:13,920 --> 02:26:24,080 after elections and that um oh the other thing was too was finding out with uh 1812 02:26:20,880 --> 02:26:29,920 Belle about our cellular towers and during that conversation ensuring that 1813 02:26:26,080 --> 02:26:33,680 our uh the generators there where's the backup generator because we ran into 1814 02:26:31,760 --> 02:26:39,280 that problem previously where we lost all connectivity 1815 02:26:35,439 --> 02:26:43,520 and and I wasn't even uh and uh from the cellular end and then I wasn't wasn't 1816 02:26:40,880 --> 02:26:48,880 aware and we weren't sure if there were still people in our community with bell 1817 02:26:45,920 --> 02:26:52,160 lines down. So, we were going to look those are the other two investigate and 1818 02:26:50,880 --> 02:26:56,640 see where it's at. Yeah. Go ahead. >> Well, one thing I do know when we were 1819 02:26:53,920 --> 02:27:02,720 talking about bell lines and people not having the lines in town. I do know that 1820 02:27:00,479 --> 02:27:07,359 out at the mill our emergency line is still down. 1821 02:27:04,640 --> 02:27:10,880 It was never it was never put up and I'm wondering why. 1822 02:27:08,399 --> 02:27:14,720 » Okay. So your emergency so you know that emergency lines down. Okay. 1823 02:27:13,040 --> 02:27:19,200 » So we have to do a kind of general census of our population where it's at. 1824 02:27:16,800 --> 02:27:22,720 So we have that. So if you hear anything I don't know if they're going to post or 1825 02:27:20,479 --> 02:27:26,160 whatever to find out um that the township staff's doing that. It's all 1826 02:27:24,560 --> 02:27:31,120 because of trying to get these services up and running not only for the horn 1827 02:27:28,880 --> 02:27:36,080 power plant which is significant but also the um if it's emergency lines or 1828 02:27:34,240 --> 02:27:41,040 my understanding was that there was a few of our seniors that their lines were 1829 02:27:38,479 --> 02:27:43,680 working and I had no idea I had no idea >> and those are their life supports. 1830 02:27:42,800 --> 02:27:45,520 » Yeah. Yeah. >> And do you know if that's still the 1831 02:27:44,880 --> 02:27:49,760 case? >> I think they were fixed. The one I do 1832 02:27:47,359 --> 02:27:54,800 know of was repaired but I don't know if there was any more. So that is something 1833 02:27:52,720 --> 02:27:58,160 to really ask about >> and if they're going to and I think too 1834 02:27:56,399 --> 02:28:02,319 is to find out are they phasing out these old lines because if they are then 1835 02:28:00,080 --> 02:28:05,520 we need better support for our belt >> yes 1836 02:28:02,800 --> 02:28:09,960 » cellular like >> Yeah. 1837 02:28:06,960 --> 02:28:09,960 So, 1838 02:28:10,000 --> 02:28:16,560 so anyway, with all that said, if there's anything that we missed in the 1839 02:28:13,920 --> 02:28:22,000 conversation that you think is imperative 1840 02:28:18,399 --> 02:28:26,319 to look into for the bell, all I know is that when they did come 1841 02:28:24,160 --> 02:28:32,080 into pain and they did put in fiber lines, we always had discussions about 1842 02:28:30,000 --> 02:28:37,520 uh there was fiber lines going to the hospital. It was along the main street. 1843 02:28:35,359 --> 02:28:42,640 um and everyone wanted to be able to connect to it or whatever, right? And 1844 02:28:39,840 --> 02:28:46,319 then all of a sudden you're afterwards you're hearing that they didn't have 1845 02:28:43,920 --> 02:28:51,439 that service and then so how did these rumors get started and what happened to 1846 02:28:48,319 --> 02:28:57,920 the lines if there was any? So to me there is a lot of it is something that 1847 02:28:55,200 --> 02:29:01,760 has to be looked into in in great detail because there's a lot of history saying 1848 02:28:59,840 --> 02:29:06,000 that we had it now how come we don't anymore or whatever. 1849 02:29:04,160 --> 02:29:10,560 » Okay. So you're at So we want to know where the felt fiber is in our community 1850 02:29:08,399 --> 02:29:13,520 currently. Like where it is, who's using it, like 1851 02:29:11,840 --> 02:29:16,880 » because we even had that issue here when we first started on the council. 1852 02:29:15,520 --> 02:29:21,680 » Yes. Yes. >> We were asking those questions. We never 1853 02:29:19,120 --> 02:29:24,680 really got an answer. >> Okay. 1854 02:29:25,920 --> 02:29:32,160 » Yeah, cuz I'm with you. I I remember it was the 1855 02:29:29,600 --> 02:29:35,120 » I always thought the high the hospital was one that did have it and then they 1856 02:29:33,920 --> 02:29:38,160 were saying they don't >> I didn't get that cuz it's not like they 1857 02:29:37,600 --> 02:29:40,640 did. >> We didn't either. 1858 02:29:39,920 --> 02:29:44,080 » Yeah. >> Yeah. Well, we did and then we 1859 02:29:43,200 --> 02:29:47,920 » had it for years. >> Yeah, I know. But we weren't using it. 1860 02:29:45,760 --> 02:29:51,200 We went to that to >> Yeah. 1861 02:29:48,319 --> 02:29:56,240 » But why? That's another reason. Why did that end up like that? 1862 02:29:52,960 --> 02:30:02,280 » Yeah. Cuz I think it was free. They were giving it to us for free. 1863 02:29:59,280 --> 02:30:02,280 So 1864 02:30:02,319 --> 02:30:06,960 yeah, cuz my concern about that was I was worried we were going to give up our 1865 02:30:06,160 --> 02:30:10,160 bell line. >> My my one question is 1866 02:30:08,640 --> 02:30:15,200 » it's been disconnected for a couple months now and changed. 1867 02:30:12,319 --> 02:30:19,280 » Okay. My one question is uh we always talked about 1868 02:30:17,040 --> 02:30:24,960 um the government always talks about we're all supposed to have fiber optics 1869 02:30:21,920 --> 02:30:29,120 to go forward to for uh everyone is going to be able to have a computer and 1870 02:30:26,640 --> 02:30:34,080 all that and then what I'm worried about is it's going to be like what we've had 1871 02:30:30,960 --> 02:30:41,200 to deal with uh where we're going to be responsible for paying for it all where 1872 02:30:36,800 --> 02:30:45,600 we can't. So, you know, um it seems like there's a double standard 1873 02:30:43,520 --> 02:30:50,080 like how are they going to make sure that we all are connected to a computer? 1874 02:30:48,960 --> 02:30:52,479 » Mhm. >> We talk the talk button. 1875 02:30:51,760 --> 02:30:57,840 » Yeah. >> Yeah. And then the and it might be 1876 02:30:55,680 --> 02:31:04,880 hindered further with the by Ontario by Canada um policies that are coming and 1877 02:31:01,200 --> 02:31:12,479 directives because um part of the conversation with campaign power was 1878 02:31:07,680 --> 02:31:17,040 Starlink because of the old the older written legislations or policies that 1879 02:31:14,560 --> 02:31:22,880 they have to follow, they can't utilize that that technology. And I'm not sure 1880 02:31:20,000 --> 02:31:26,800 the ins and outs or whatever, but um that's 1881 02:31:24,560 --> 02:31:33,280 like that's going to hinder us too because if there's certain 1882 02:31:29,120 --> 02:31:36,880 um corporations or governments or municipalities or hospitals or whatever 1883 02:31:35,040 --> 02:31:43,120 that can't utilize certain services because maybe in the future they are not 1884 02:31:39,920 --> 02:31:47,760 primarily Canadian or Ontarian or they the old legislation doesn't 1885 02:31:46,000 --> 02:31:52,560 cover new technology. >> Yeah. So yeah, there'll be a bit of a 1886 02:31:50,880 --> 02:31:58,479 lag there. >> It'll be a big problem. 1887 02:31:53,920 --> 02:32:02,290 » Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, we definitely I'm more than confident Manola will find out 1888 02:32:00,399 --> 02:32:04,310 exactly where fiber is in our town. [laughter] 1889 02:32:05,120 --> 02:32:12,760 And is there anything else that we want to have on this discussion to know or 1890 02:32:08,960 --> 02:32:12,760 anything else that you 1891 02:32:14,000 --> 02:32:21,960 » and basically if there is a plan what is the plan and how long is it going to 1892 02:32:18,960 --> 02:32:21,960 take? 1893 02:32:27,760 --> 02:32:33,520 And then I guess the other thing is just to keep in regular contact with manage 1894 02:32:31,920 --> 02:32:41,200 over what's happening with their insulation of fiber. 1895 02:32:36,800 --> 02:32:44,560 » Um do we have fiber coming into the town like from manage or somewhere? 1896 02:32:42,880 --> 02:32:46,640 » It runs along a truck >> comes in from the rail. 1897 02:32:46,080 --> 02:32:50,160 » Oh yeah. >> You have to put in 1898 02:32:48,800 --> 02:32:55,600 » almost 30 years now. >> It was 2001 I think. 2001 25 years. 1899 02:32:54,880 --> 02:32:59,120 » Yeah. >> As we always talked about it, all 1900 02:32:57,966 --> 02:33:02,160 [clears throat] we have to do is tap that line. 1901 02:33:00,000 --> 02:33:07,720 » Yeah. [laughter] >> Save a lot of problems. Yes. 1902 02:33:04,720 --> 02:33:07,720 » Yeah. 1903 02:33:08,880 --> 02:33:14,640 That's true, too. It's right there. >> It's right there. 1904 02:33:12,000 --> 02:33:17,040 » So, why even run a line out there from here? 1905 02:33:15,520 --> 02:33:19,439 » I believe the hospital's hooked up to it. Eh, 1906 02:33:17,840 --> 02:33:24,080 » that's my understanding. I think it's the schools, the hospital, but then we 1907 02:33:21,840 --> 02:33:28,560 did have that discrepancy uh in a conversation about the hospital, the uh 1908 02:33:26,960 --> 02:33:33,560 emergency meeting that we had. >> Yes. Yes, that's right. So, 1909 02:33:35,920 --> 02:33:43,359 » okay. So, I guess that's the other discussion on the table is how do you 1910 02:33:41,439 --> 02:33:47,960 » how do we link right into the fiber that's out there running right by the 1911 02:33:44,960 --> 02:33:47,960 mill? 1912 02:33:49,920 --> 02:33:55,680 It's always been [laughter] >> conversation 1913 02:33:53,040 --> 02:33:59,280 forever. >> Yeah. Like that. To me now it sounds 1914 02:33:57,520 --> 02:34:03,840 ridiculous that we're going to run fiber from horn pain out to the mill when 1915 02:34:01,760 --> 02:34:07,840 there's fiber right there. That's the fiber where it's like we're putting a 1916 02:34:05,359 --> 02:34:11,439 double line in. And that stuff's not cheap. 1917 02:34:10,000 --> 02:34:13,280 » How far away is it? >> It's the tracks. 1918 02:34:12,880 --> 02:34:16,240 » Okay. >> Like the the crossing like it's 1919 02:34:14,880 --> 02:34:19,920 » Oh, it's right there. the crossings here and the buildings here 1920 02:34:18,960 --> 02:34:21,200 would be the furthest. >> Yeah. 1921 02:34:20,399 --> 02:34:24,640 » Yeah. >> The mills on one side, the office and 1922 02:34:22,960 --> 02:34:27,520 garage on the other side of the track. So, [laughter] 1923 02:34:26,319 --> 02:34:31,840 » go figure. >> You think it's that far? 800 m is almost 1924 02:34:29,840 --> 02:34:35,520 a kilometer. >> Yeah, probably about 800 from the uh 1925 02:34:34,080 --> 02:34:36,080 Goen to this tracks. >> Okay. 1926 02:34:35,840 --> 02:34:38,160 » Yeah. >> Yeah. It's almost a kilometer. 1927 02:34:37,600 --> 02:34:43,439 » Yeah. >> Yeah. 1928 02:34:41,040 --> 02:34:45,359 » Still, that's very close. >> Mhm. A lot closer than 1929 02:34:44,800 --> 02:34:50,520 » Yeah. >> 12 km. 1930 02:34:46,319 --> 02:34:50,520 » Yeah. 12 km. Yeah. 1931 02:34:50,720 --> 02:34:54,120 » Good job. 1932 02:34:55,600 --> 02:35:02,640 Okay. Any further discussion on that? Okay. Thank you so much for that uh 1933 02:35:00,960 --> 02:35:07,840 amending the agenda for that and having that discussion because um 1934 02:35:05,920 --> 02:35:10,720 a lot of people's livelihoods and we want to make sure that is up and running 1935 02:35:09,200 --> 02:35:14,319 and there's already the challenges of the tariffs. So, and the flip blobing of 1936 02:35:13,439 --> 02:35:18,560 tariffs. So, >> yep. 1937 02:35:16,560 --> 02:35:23,359 » Okay. Is do you need a motion or anything for that or No, you're good. 1938 02:35:21,040 --> 02:35:29,520 Okay. So, moving on, we have bylaws. Bylaw number 222726 1939 02:35:26,800 --> 02:35:35,760 joints compliance audit committee for 2026 2030 term of council. If I can get 1940 02:35:33,760 --> 02:35:40,319 a mover and a seconder, please. Move by councelor Peter Kmaker, second by 1941 02:35:38,240 --> 02:35:45,680 councelor Belinda Kmaker. Be it resolved that bylaw number 2227-26 1942 02:35:43,680 --> 02:35:52,479 being a bylaw to appoint a joint compliance audit committee for the 2026 1943 02:35:50,000 --> 02:35:56,800 2030 term of council be hereby read a first and second time considered read a 1944 02:35:54,240 --> 02:36:00,439 third time and finally passed. Any questions on the bylaw? 1945 02:36:03,439 --> 02:36:09,280 » Have a question? >> Yes. Go ahead. Can you refresh my mind 1946 02:36:06,640 --> 02:36:15,280 on uh what this is? >> I'll defer to the clerk. 1947 02:36:10,880 --> 02:36:21,920 » I sure can. So, every um municipality is required to have an election compliance 1948 02:36:18,000 --> 02:36:26,880 audit committee. Uh essentially, it is if there are any complaints about um a 1949 02:36:25,120 --> 02:36:31,498 candidate's financials or any complaints about a candidate, it is the committee's 1950 02:36:29,840 --> 02:36:35,120 responsibility to investigate [clears throat] it. 1951 02:36:33,600 --> 02:36:39,840 Um and also they can request an audit. They 1952 02:36:37,439 --> 02:36:46,120 can go through everything. It's it's basically just uh 1953 02:36:42,479 --> 02:36:46,120 a third party 1954 02:36:46,800 --> 02:36:55,680 » make sure does everything right. >> Yes. Um and to clarify, so this is we've 1955 02:36:53,680 --> 02:37:01,359 uh for a few elections now we've partnered with um 1956 02:36:58,720 --> 02:37:07,359 Wawa, White River, uh Chaplo, Uberville. 1957 02:37:04,240 --> 02:37:12,800 So we are doing that again. And the host municipality cannot be on the committee. 1958 02:37:09,920 --> 02:37:17,840 So in our case, if there's a complaint, I forward it to them, but it's the other 1959 02:37:15,439 --> 02:37:22,800 municipalities, their clerks that are on that committee. If uh White River were 1960 02:37:20,640 --> 02:37:27,200 to get a complaint, it would be myself and the other clerks, not White Rivers. 1961 02:37:25,439 --> 02:37:34,640 Um so it's just to make sure that there is an impartial um third party neutral 1962 02:37:31,439 --> 02:37:37,120 group to investigate any complaints. >> Thank you. 1963 02:37:35,359 --> 02:37:42,319 » No problem. I hope that makes sense. >> Yeah, it does. 1964 02:37:40,080 --> 02:37:46,319 » Any further questions on that? Okay, there being none, I put that bylaw to a 1965 02:37:44,240 --> 02:37:49,920 vote. Those in favor? And that is carried. Okay. the Ontario 1966 02:37:48,319 --> 02:37:53,359 Infrastructure and Lands Corporation loan. If I can get a mover and a 1967 02:37:51,920 --> 02:38:00,240 seconder, please move by councelor Peter, second by councelor John Perov, 1968 02:37:56,000 --> 02:38:04,399 be a result of that bylaw number 2228-26 being a bylaw to authorize the 1969 02:38:01,920 --> 02:38:10,399 submission of an application to Ontario infrastructure and lands corporation 1970 02:38:07,840 --> 02:38:14,560 for financing of certain ongoing capital works of the corporation of county 1971 02:38:12,479 --> 02:38:20,319 paying the municipality to authorize borrowing temporary borrowing from OILC 1972 02:38:18,000 --> 02:38:24,479 to meet expenditures in conjunction with the capital works and to authorize 1973 02:38:22,720 --> 02:38:29,600 long-term borrowing for such capital works through the issue of debentures to 1974 02:38:27,200 --> 02:38:33,760 OILC be hereby read a first and second time considered a third time and finally 1975 02:38:32,240 --> 02:38:37,720 passed. Any questions on that bylaw? 1976 02:38:39,120 --> 02:38:48,160 No. My only question is we're allowed to open up financing vehicles and 1977 02:38:45,200 --> 02:38:52,000 restricted acts. Yes, I did a lot of research on this because the project is 1978 02:38:50,720 --> 02:38:55,359 in the budget. >> So, the project is within the budget and 1979 02:38:54,000 --> 02:38:59,920 this account is within the entire project budget. Um, it is allowed within 1980 02:38:58,399 --> 02:39:05,840 the restricted tax period. >> Okay, that's a question and I'm glad to 1981 02:39:03,840 --> 02:39:09,840 see it on here finally 1982 02:39:07,200 --> 02:39:15,305 » and that's no staff. Don't take that the wrong way. Council moves as slow as all 1983 02:39:12,160 --> 02:39:15,305 of us sometimes. [laughter] 1984 02:39:15,600 --> 02:39:24,160 Okay. And those in favor and that is carried. 1985 02:39:21,520 --> 02:39:28,080 Okay. Council, we have a confirmatory bylaw. If I can get a mover and a second 1986 02:39:26,399 --> 02:39:32,960 moved by councelor Belinda Kithmaker, second by councelor John Perov, be it 1987 02:39:29,760 --> 02:39:36,399 resolved that bylaw number 2229-26 being a bylaw to confirm the proceedings 1988 02:39:34,720 --> 02:39:40,720 of council at the regular meeting held on Thursday, September 10th, 2026 be 1989 02:39:39,040 --> 02:39:44,640 hereby read a first and second time, be considered read a third time and finally 1990 02:39:42,319 --> 02:39:47,920 passed. Those in favor and that is carried. 1991 02:39:46,240 --> 02:39:50,800 And if I can get a mover and a second please. Move by councelor Belinda 1992 02:39:49,200 --> 02:39:53,840 Kissmaker. Second by councelor Peter Kissmaker. Be it resolved that council 1993 02:39:52,399 --> 02:39:59,760 does hereby adjourn this regular meeting. Council held on Thursday 1994 02:39:55,359 --> 02:40:03,040 September 10th 2026 at 8:41 p.m. Those in favor and that is carried. There you 1995 02:40:02,319 --> 02:40:07,600 go council. >> Thank you very much. 1996 02:40:05,359 --> 02:40:12,520 » And we'll see you in October for our last council meeting of this council. 1997 02:40:09,520 --> 02:40:12,520 » Yes.