1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:08,320 to order. Kathy, call the roll, please. Mr. Ripka, hi. Hi. Mr. Lewis, hi. Mr. 2 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:12,080 Ziggler. Mr. Lori. Present. Mr. Fisher. Here. 3 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:14,400 Would you all please stand for the pledge of 4 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:24,119 allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic 5 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:29,720 for it stands one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice 6 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:29,720 for all. 7 00:00:32,480 --> 00:00:41,600 Item two is a motion accept the minutes of March 12th and March 26, 2025. 8 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:48,640 We have um Kathy and I discussed this. We have um one 9 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:53,920 correction for the uh Peterville truck. Okay. 10 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:59,199 There's the on the bid sheet it was very confusing in that the uh the new truck 11 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:06,479 was approved in 2024 and it's budget item the vendor for the chassis is the 12 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:11,920 Peterbuilt Lucky Truck trailer sales Henry added Peterville is requesting a 13 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:17,280 payment for the chassis the cost of the chassis should 14 00:01:14,119 --> 00:01:24,720 be 236844 4 and he had it in at 149. I took the 15 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:31,040 net off the other. Okay. So, yeah, it was confusing very. Yeah. Okay. You make 16 00:01:27,759 --> 00:01:35,640 that correction? Is there anything else? Yes. March 12th. I forgot to send you 17 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:41,520 all correspondence or if you in your packet, 18 00:01:39,759 --> 00:01:45,600 you know, you did send the correspondence. So, I will resend that 19 00:01:43,119 --> 00:01:51,079 out to everyone. Okay. So with the corrections, can I have a motion to 20 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:51,079 accept the minutes? So move. 21 00:01:51,439 --> 00:02:01,360 Mr. Ripco, Mr. Lewis. I Mr. Ziggler. Hi. Mr. Gory. Hi. Mr. Fiser. Hi. Item three 22 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:04,360 is resolution authorizing the payment of claims. 23 00:02:06,399 --> 00:02:16,120 So move it. Mr. Ripco. Hi. Mr. Lewis. Hi. Mr. Ziggler. Hi. Mr. Lorie. Hi. Mr. 24 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:24,000 Fischer. I item four, report of town officers. 25 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:31,599 I move these reports be received and put on file. Second, Mr. Ripka. Hi, Mr. 26 00:02:28,319 --> 00:02:37,200 Lewis. Hi, Mr. Ziggler. Hi, Mr. Lorie. Hi, Mr. Fischer. Hi. Item five is a 27 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:42,760 correspondence and item six is a motion to receive a correspondence. 28 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:49,360 So move. Second. Mr. Ripco. Hi, Mr. Lewis. Hi, 29 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:54,560 Mr. Ziggler. Hi, Mr. Lorie. Hi, Mr. Fischer. Hi. Item seven is audience 30 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:59,120 participation. But before I ask the audience to help participate, I would 31 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:05,200 like to call on Mayor of the Village of Horses, Mayor Adams for a buzz village 32 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:09,400 buzz budget presentation to the board. Mayor Adams. Oh, I was I was not 33 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:17,800 prepared for that. Um but 34 00:03:12,640 --> 00:03:17,800 watch me wa watch me rift here. Um 35 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:27,120 well thank you. Um we are in the midst we have our budget almost all completed 36 00:03:24,159 --> 00:03:33,280 tomorrow at 400 pm we will be releasing our budget to the public. Um this would 37 00:03:30,159 --> 00:03:39,599 be the second presentation I've done for the community. Last Tuesday I did one 38 00:03:35,599 --> 00:03:46,760 for the Guanas and just noon today I did one at the uh Horsets 39 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:53,159 Rotary. Uh some things that are worth mentioning. Uh we have starting out this 40 00:03:50,239 --> 00:04:02,080 budget season we are behind in some revenues. Uh 41 00:03:58,519 --> 00:04:08,480 $52,000 the village lost in fair market value. total assessed value of $7 42 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:14,040 million due to pilots. Thank you and thank you guys for having a wonderful 43 00:04:10,959 --> 00:04:20,479 assessor. Teresa has been working diligently with Nate and uh Steg to try 44 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:26,160 and figure out where each of the pilots are trying to figure out that the land 45 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:30,080 is taxed but the buildings on it. Then we assumed that one of the buildings was 46 00:04:27,919 --> 00:04:34,720 Seammens, but obviously that pilot didn't kick in because that project's 47 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:38,639 not done. So trying to get on first, second, and third so we can figure out 48 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:44,960 where we are with our pilot revenue verse our tax revenue. The other thing 49 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:51,600 that we have been told by the county and by the state is to project sales tax at 50 00:04:48,479 --> 00:04:59,160 the 2023 level. uh going backwards to that level is uh 51 00:04:55,360 --> 00:05:08,560 institutes or kind of equates to about $75,000 loss. So we started our budget 52 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:14,960 season this year at a 4.6% tax increase just to break even from revenues we had 53 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:21,360 as of last year. uh it wasn't where we wanted it to be 54 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:26,240 and unfortunately that was just to cover what we had let alone any new 55 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:31,520 initiatives. Uh as far as new initiatives go 56 00:05:28,280 --> 00:05:35,600 police we're looking for accreditation. We're almost all way the full way 57 00:05:33,919 --> 00:05:42,160 through accreditation. This is going to be a huge feather in the village's cap 58 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:48,400 as we will it would just be for road patrols in the county of Jim deputies 59 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:54,080 and the city of Ommyra are the only accredited police forces. Uh thankfully 60 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:59,440 Chief Suie and Nate have done everything they can uh except spend the money, 61 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:03,919 right? They did all the policy reviews and all that. Of course, it's a state 62 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:10,160 certification, so it comes with a bunch of dumb things. Uh firstly, we are to be 63 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:16,000 accredited, we must have our own impound lot for the village. So, there is 64 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:21,199 probably about $25,000 to build a village impound lot. How big, how wide, 65 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:26,880 how tall, that's all things we can negotiate to try and cost engineer it 66 00:06:23,840 --> 00:06:34,479 down to as le least as possible. And um we need a second locker within 67 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:39,520 our locked evidence room uh to preserve evidence for long-term care and keep 68 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:45,039 such as um number one is that has the longest 69 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:50,360 statue of holding are like rape kits. So we're going to be building another room 70 00:06:47,280 --> 00:06:54,000 inside of that to achieve full accreditation. We're also going to be 71 00:06:52,160 --> 00:07:00,080 bringing back community policing. That was something I ran ran on a long time 72 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:05,360 ago. Uh almost all the police uh New York State police have to be certified 73 00:07:02,280 --> 00:07:11,199 to be a policeman and ride a bike at the same time. So we have paid for that. Now 74 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:16,800 the PBA is coming with $3,000 that we'll be matching for new bikes so that during 75 00:07:14,319 --> 00:07:25,880 the summer our police force is out in the village hand in hand. Um, 76 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:32,240 uh, public works, we are replacing a 2007 six-wheeler, 77 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:38,440 uh, that that needed to be replaced. Um, so that is about 20 years old. So is the 78 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:44,479 person who operates it as far as his career. So we have kept our six-wheeler 79 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:49,280 as long as we've kept one of our employees. So we figured it was time to 80 00:07:46,479 --> 00:07:54,639 get him a new car. But by no means do we hope that that means he leaves. We are 81 00:07:51,919 --> 00:07:59,599 also putting up two pickup trucks. This is going to be about a 82 00:07:56,599 --> 00:08:04,599 $425,000 expenditure alto together as one of the pickup trucks is a 2001 and 83 00:08:02,479 --> 00:08:11,759 the other pickup truck is a 2003. I felt that after this uh DPW 84 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:19,120 employee has personally removed the bench out of the truck three times at 85 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:24,240 pick aart. So he uh they could have a seat without springs coming through it. 86 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:30,080 It might have been time to replace that. So we have that. We are going to be 87 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:37,039 venturing into family movie nights in the park. We are going to be going full 88 00:08:33,919 --> 00:08:42,719 steam ahead on a digital sign board that we took out. The rotary sign at Teal 89 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:46,680 Park collapsed. Uh so we will be replacing it with a digital sign board. 90 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:53,360 And um last but certainly not least, our 91 00:08:50,000 --> 00:09:00,320 cemetery will have 50,000 in the budget for a calarium uh installation. I'm 92 00:08:57,519 --> 00:09:05,800 proud to say that I'm creating two task force, two committees for the village 93 00:09:02,959 --> 00:09:11,600 board. One chaired by Deputy Mayor Goodwin along with Mike Stemp to make 94 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:18,120 sure the town barium gets put up along with benchmarking our practices and our 95 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:26,320 fees. The other will be HVAC Force's village advisory committee of code. Uh 96 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:32,160 so we will now have George Kawaski and Mark Turpali along with three other 97 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:36,800 residents of appointment to go through the entire code book in village law to 98 00:09:34,560 --> 00:09:43,519 start seeing what makes sense and start pruning some of the old laws that um I 99 00:09:40,399 --> 00:09:47,440 have yet to realize or understand why they were ever created. So we're going 100 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:54,880 to get that going. We have two committees. We have about $800,000 in 101 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:59,519 new investment in the village and uh hopefully we get that all passed and we 102 00:09:57,279 --> 00:10:06,760 can start seeing some real change and progress in the village of Horsets. Any 103 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:06,760 questions? Council, 104 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:16,560 what are you asking from us? partnership as always. Uh, Councilman 105 00:10:13,279 --> 00:10:20,040 Larry, uh, it's, uh, you know, as far as where we're 106 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:25,200 at, it's it's, you know, it it's kind of what I 107 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:29,279 said last year. The village and town both saw about three quarters of a 108 00:10:27,519 --> 00:10:33,200 million dollars and new street sweeping equipment. Two street sweepers. Mind 109 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:39,360 you, yes, we have a lot of streets between both of our municipalities, but 110 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:44,079 the other statement is true nonetheless. This is something we, you know, uh, 111 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:47,920 Supervisor Fischer has been kind enough to allow us to have first rights of 112 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:52,360 refusal for any of your equipment that you're retiring. But I thought it was 113 00:10:50,480 --> 00:11:01,440 very important to let you know. Our trucks are averaging 20 to 25 114 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:07,040 years. We kick a police cruiser down after about 7 to 8 and then we use that 115 00:11:04,560 --> 00:11:13,440 for another 10 to 12 years either in the parks or with code. So the the one thing 116 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:19,839 that I think that we should be looking at is what we can do together, how we 117 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:23,760 can do it together, and what what that might be. Albeit you guys don't have a 118 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:28,800 cemetery or you don't have a police force. there's other things such as code 119 00:11:26,560 --> 00:11:34,959 that we could be working together on and administratively on. So, uh I'm always 120 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:41,360 here. I will always attend this night meeting. So, I think after we get this 121 00:11:37,279 --> 00:11:46,399 budget done, like always, planning is and teamwork is the hardest type of 122 00:11:43,519 --> 00:11:50,880 work. So, it really needs that year of planning to make sure that we have a 123 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:55,120 plan to work together so that when we're both when you're creating your budget at 124 00:11:53,200 --> 00:12:00,959 the beginning of next year and we're going to be creating our budget 3 months 125 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:06,160 after that 26, we're not trying to guess or catch up with anybody. So, as of 126 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:09,839 right now, nothing more than just being able to come to the table and discussing 127 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:16,240 goals and objectives that can be done across all town forces. 128 00:12:12,680 --> 00:12:21,200 Okay. One comment. I want to thank you for the enlightening. And now when you 129 00:12:18,399 --> 00:12:24,399 get your budget done, let's get back to what we were going to do before we 130 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:29,920 started working on your budget for the DPW. So call me. Yes. When you're done 131 00:12:28,079 --> 00:12:34,079 and we'll reschedule those meetings. Yep. We'll be uh end of April. We're 132 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:41,680 looking at uh we'll be putting that on along with uh also the end of May. I'm 133 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:47,680 very proud to say between the Horses Kuanas, Horseetss Rotary, the Masons, 134 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:52,800 and the Sunshine Rotary that looks to be moving full steam ahead on a full 135 00:12:50,560 --> 00:12:58,720 bathroom concession stand going into Teal Park. One ADA compliant bathroom 136 00:12:56,399 --> 00:13:05,279 along with a full concession stand that will support gas and electric. Uh so now 137 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:09,360 that we can properly serve and provide restroom facilities for Teal Park, 138 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:12,880 hopefully expanding that as well. So we'll be doing that. I kept myself off 139 00:13:11,279 --> 00:13:16,720 the committees, off the two new committees so that all the other fun 140 00:13:14,399 --> 00:13:21,519 stuff can come my way. So thank you very much for your time. Oh yeah, Carl. So 141 00:13:19,839 --> 00:13:26,320 just throwing this out there after you guys have your meeting. What is the 142 00:13:23,279 --> 00:13:32,639 possibility of getting both boards together at an open open meeting? Yeah. 143 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:38,000 Once we get like you guys all come, we come and the public can come and just 144 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:42,560 you know just to try to keep moving forward. Yeah. Because we had the one we 145 00:13:39,680 --> 00:13:47,200 had the one brief meeting and the last two got cancelled because various 146 00:13:44,639 --> 00:13:52,480 things. So that was just between you guys. Us and the hot two highway guys. 147 00:13:49,680 --> 00:13:58,240 Okay. Okay. just to discuss again what do they you know what can we do 148 00:13:55,320 --> 00:14:04,240 right after you guys meet then I think if we all meet at a open meeting at um 149 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:10,399 you know so like a Wednesday morning or Wednesday night or you know an off from 150 00:14:07,839 --> 00:14:15,279 you guys and us or whatever yeah that'd be wonderful one more question for you 151 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:20,160 we're looking at uh doing something with installing wells 152 00:14:17,680 --> 00:14:24,000 um we currently get the water from you Correct. Correct. Correct. We will 153 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:27,600 discuss that when we get to that item. It's on the agenda. It's on the agenda. 154 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:31,440 Okay. I wanted We will discuss that when we get to He can He can pop in when we 155 00:14:29,519 --> 00:14:36,000 get to that. You're not leaving, right? No. Yeah. He doesn't leave. He's the 156 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:40,480 last one to leave. Bill's my right. Oh, no. We're in trouble. Thank you. I took 157 00:14:38,639 --> 00:14:45,519 his cake. Peace. Thank you very much. Now, audience participation. Anyone that 158 00:14:43,199 --> 00:14:48,800 would like to address the board, please step to the podium. State your name and 159 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:54,760 address. who are wishing to report it and it's on 160 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:59,519 anything that is not on the agenda. Is there anyone that would like 161 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,519 to address the 162 00:15:00,199 --> 00:15:09,160 work? Seems none, then we will move on. Item eight is discussion and possible 163 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:14,880 action regarding speed limit reduction recommendation from New York State DOT 164 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:19,920 from 45 to 40 miles an hour from the intersection of Watkins Road, State 165 00:15:16,959 --> 00:15:27,360 Route 14, and Wantat Road County Road to Colonial Ridge Apartments. We requested 166 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:32,320 a 35. We Yeah, we the request went in from this board for to consider a 35. 167 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:36,079 They came back with the letter you've seen that says they will not go below 168 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:42,000 40. Uh so it's back here that if you guys 169 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:49,040 are happy with 40, we'll tell them yes we'll go forward with 170 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:53,519 40. Do that. Any comments? Yeah. Why why can't we go to 35? What's their 171 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:57,120 reasoning? the the am the ambient speed is 172 00:15:54,519 --> 00:16:03,600 not they're not going to lower it down to where they're ticketing too many 173 00:16:00,519 --> 00:16:06,720 people because people won't be going. So they they give it to some sort of 174 00:16:04,959 --> 00:16:11,839 ambient speed or something. I forget what they how they said they don't have 175 00:16:08,639 --> 00:16:17,759 room to follow the road. So and they did their studies supposedly 176 00:16:15,079 --> 00:16:24,639 quotequote and uh that's what they came back with. I think 40 is better than 177 00:16:20,639 --> 00:16:33,920 nothing because it is up to Coney Ridge is what 55 or 45 I'm sorry 45. 178 00:16:29,759 --> 00:16:39,040 Yes. 45. We need a motion to accept it. Well, I say you know they passed the 179 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:44,720 resolution to request it. So we should pass a resolution to the board accept 180 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:50,240 accept the state go to the county. The county will hold. Don Ziggler made the 181 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:57,839 motion. Do I have a second? Second it. Mr. Ripkco. Hi. Mr. Lewis. Hi. 182 00:16:54,320 --> 00:17:05,360 Mr. Ziggler. Hi. Mr. Lorie. Hi. Mr. Fischer. Hi. Item nine is a resolution 183 00:17:01,759 --> 00:17:09,240 to contract the town of Horsed designate auditor to audit the town financial 184 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:15,280 savings reending 204 and the town of horse's justice 185 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:21,480 funds for the same year 2024. Rick McNeely agreed last year to do it again 186 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:28,000 but for one last time at the same price as last year 187 00:17:24,799 --> 00:17:34,880 which was like $9,000 if that high. I don't remember. So I would need a motion 188 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:42,640 to I'll make the motion second. Mr. RCO I Mr. Lewis I Mr. Ziggler. Hi. 189 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:46,400 Mr. Lorie. Hi. Mr. Tisher. Hi. Item 10 is a report by Billy Rapley from the 190 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:50,799 parks and recreation department regarding the status of the parks 191 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:55,120 location in the town and possible use. We're applying for MRP grant. Billy, are 192 00:17:53,919 --> 00:18:00,640 they come up here so it's a little easier? Yeah. 193 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:06,720 Okay. So, the NPR grants, the one through the state, it's for up to a 194 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:12,080 million dollars. It's a 90% 10%. Um, another one that we can also do like 195 00:18:09,039 --> 00:18:16,480 that comes out in May is the EPF. Um, through the Allison Herman from the 196 00:18:13,919 --> 00:18:20,080 county, we can do the same thing for both of them. So, the first one's going 197 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:26,200 to be very competitive. So, the second one might be more likely to get because 198 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:30,440 that's only a 5050 grant, like 50% 50%. So, you know, it's we're not going to 199 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:36,320 get as much out of it, but we it'd still be help save a lot of money to do more. 200 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:42,480 um some of my ideas that I've had and you know I've haven't had a whole lot of 201 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:46,799 input from the public um but we were look I was looking at like a playground 202 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:52,160 for each park so that way we can focus on each one of our four parks and you 203 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:55,600 know like with Metobrook it's only like a little over a quarter of an acre so 204 00:18:53,679 --> 00:18:59,360 it's just going to be something small but if you have something more worth the 205 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:04,320 kids going to you're more likely to have them actually use the park. Um, you 206 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:08,240 know, obviously the biggest one that we would want to do would be the holding 207 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:13,200 point because it has the most volume of kids and people. Um, especially when we 208 00:19:11,360 --> 00:19:19,520 have events or just during the week when there's practice, there's more kids over 209 00:19:14,799 --> 00:19:23,679 there. Um, for Hasllett and Mebrook, we were look I was looking at doing like 210 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:29,039 maybe a small pavilion and like a table or benches. 211 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:32,720 Um Allison um so she's like the she helps she's with the counties does like 212 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:36,559 the grants and stuff from that like so she works with the different 213 00:19:34,120 --> 00:19:43,760 municipalities. Um she said the benches are a good thing. Um the 214 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:48,880 um office of the aging they have a program called talking benches to fight 215 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:53,120 elderly isolation. So that's something that we might be able to work with them. 216 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:56,400 Um, and you know, that's going to look good for the grant because you're 217 00:19:54,400 --> 00:20:01,520 getting, you know, you're working with other organizations. They can help write 218 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:06,400 a letter of, you know, of support. Um, we're going to also look at, um, like 219 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:10,480 the youth, the Shan County Youth Bureau. And that was another suggestions she had 220 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:15,919 was to reach out to programs like that to you know for recommendations as well 221 00:20:13,120 --> 00:20:22,880 as letter of you know support which would give us the points for public 222 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:26,799 engagement and stuff like that. Um so couple other things they had as far as 223 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:32,000 stuff to do would be fix up the courts at sport and haslit um for the tennis 224 00:20:29,919 --> 00:20:35,600 courts instead of put them back as a tennis court. maybe looking to doing 225 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:41,280 pickle ball because that's much bigger now in the area than tennis. Um so that 226 00:20:38,799 --> 00:20:47,080 could potentially do they might be big enough to do two courts on each of them 227 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:51,360 tennis previous tennis courts. Um I have heard from a friend that plays 228 00:20:49,679 --> 00:20:55,120 pickle ball that she lives up in Bridgeport and her neighbor actually 229 00:20:52,799 --> 00:21:00,159 takes a her portable net over and plays on one of them courts. Saw that. Yep. 230 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:04,080 So, that is something that, you know, it's already been used even though it 231 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:08,919 might not be the safest with the cracks. Um, so it's definitely something that we 232 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:14,799 should definitely get addressed. Um, another idea I had would be um beach 233 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:19,159 some beach volleyball courts over on behind fields five and six. Um, that 234 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:23,840 would be something different in the area. Um, I know Amanda heard there's a 235 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:27,679 lot of kids that play volleyball, but like in the summer there's really 236 00:21:25,039 --> 00:21:32,840 nowhere for them to play. What about So I over here in the holding point be 237 00:21:29,360 --> 00:21:37,760 behind our softball fields. Okay. Um then talking with uh the off office 238 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:43,919 office of the aging because they reached out to me about using our horseshoe 239 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:49,760 pitch for uh 5 for their senior games. Um because normally they used to do it 240 00:21:45,919 --> 00:21:54,640 at the um Italian American vet or whatever and they're selling it so they 241 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:58,559 can't do it there. So, you know, that might be something else that we could 242 00:21:56,640 --> 00:22:02,480 look into. Uh, I'm gonna meet they're having a meeting tomorrow for the senior 243 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:08,080 game. So, I'm going to go to that and try to get some input and see, you know, 244 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:11,280 um I think the lady that works with Apple or whatever is supposed to be 245 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:15,679 there, so we can, you know, maybe talk with her and see, you know, could we get 246 00:22:13,120 --> 00:22:20,799 a partnership with them to like bring, you know, people down here to walk or, 247 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:26,720 you know, we got like a botchi pit, which, you know, would be simple to put 248 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:30,960 in. Um, and then for the other thing I was thinking of for where our horseshoe 249 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:38,000 pits are that don't get used. We could take them out and essentially it's about 250 00:22:33,360 --> 00:22:43,039 a 70 by 100 ft fenced in area um was to basically make that an area for another 251 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:48,320 area for kids to play. So do like um Gaga ball which is like a basically a 252 00:22:45,919 --> 00:22:50,960 different type of like dodgeball where you have to hit the like you slap the 253 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:57,440 ball and you have to hit them like below the knee. So that would be enclosed um 254 00:22:54,960 --> 00:23:01,760 just like a hoop game. Then have like on the one end have it for toddlers. So 255 00:22:59,919 --> 00:23:06,000 like you know interactive things for little kids to do and put some benches 256 00:23:03,679 --> 00:23:10,960 in there for parents. So that way it would kind of you know be for all ages 257 00:23:08,159 --> 00:23:18,120 of kids and not just you know older kids or younger kids. Um so that was another 258 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:18,120 idea that I had. 259 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:24,880 I got a question. Yep. How long do you think it would take you to do all that 260 00:23:22,559 --> 00:23:29,480 as far as writing it up or putting it in? All of them. Get it all done? Yeah. 261 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:35,440 You talking years? Yes. So, the grant itself So, the grant itself needs to be 262 00:23:32,159 --> 00:23:39,520 in by like May 2nd. But, and then we would know by next year and then we'd 263 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:44,320 have to do more to like get it officially started. And I want to say if 264 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:48,799 I remember correctly, they you need to have the project done by within two or 265 00:23:46,799 --> 00:23:53,120 three years. So when you apply for the grant, yeah, do you have to put all of 266 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:56,640 these things in that grant or whatever dollar amount? Whatever we want to do. 267 00:23:54,960 --> 00:24:01,440 And yes, so we would put what we want to do it for and essentially they would 268 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:04,240 come back of hey that like you I'm assuming that they could essentially be 269 00:24:03,039 --> 00:24:09,039 like all right this is what we're willing to approve. 270 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:11,919 Um something is big and complicated like that. How are you going you have a 271 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:18,080 committee that's working with you and what's good to put here and there and so 272 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:22,080 forth. Um, so the as far as well I'll be an example. How many people use the the 273 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:26,880 park in Metbook Parkway? You don't really know. No. What about a trail cam 274 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:30,799 on a 10-ft post up in the air that looking down would count the people to 275 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:34,960 go in there in a week or two, right? Is that really cost effective to put a lot 276 00:24:32,799 --> 00:24:40,320 of money into? I'm just using it because it's there. Yes, you could do the same 277 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:44,880 in Breeport. So, how much money are we looking at and what do we get out of it? 278 00:24:43,039 --> 00:24:48,880 who's using them. Yep. So, somebody's got to ask that. I might as well be the 279 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:52,799 one. Yep. So, I mean, you could do a trail cam or something like that to try 280 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:56,640 to figure it out. Um, but my other thought is the other side of looking at 281 00:24:54,559 --> 00:24:59,520 that is if you like if you have a bad 282 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:03,919 restaurant, people aren't going to go. So, if there's nothing at these parks to 283 00:25:01,360 --> 00:25:08,080 go to, they're not going to go. So, if you improve it, Absolutely. your, you 284 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:12,400 know, your traffic is going to improve. How would you say that? So you get a 285 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:16,720 more accurate rating if you had a good product. Right. Yeah. So that's why like 286 00:25:14,799 --> 00:25:22,320 so Metobrook the playgrounds I was looking at for that for Mebrook that's a 287 00:25:18,799 --> 00:25:25,760 smaller area but it's a you know it's a there's you know the neighborhood 288 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:32,240 there's a lot of houses in there. I asked it just so I could get an answer 289 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:35,679 of uh prove to me we need it. Well as you said build it new and they'll come 290 00:25:33,919 --> 00:25:39,440 because when you do that they will show up. Yes. Yep. And so with Metalbrook, I 291 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:45,600 think the playgrounds I was looking at that were like $6,000 and then like 292 00:25:42,159 --> 00:25:49,679 installation. Yeah. So, you know, it's compared compared to what we would want 293 00:25:47,039 --> 00:25:54,320 to do out here. But, you know, for that neighborhood, I mean, there's a lot of 294 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:59,440 houses over there. So, I'm sure that if there was something worth going to to 295 00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:06,000 for the kids, they would go. Anybody got any questions for Bill? 296 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:11,279 Um, I'd like to see you move forward. I mean, even if we can, you know, you 297 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:14,880 mentioned three sport, even if we can, you know, put some money into those 298 00:26:13,039 --> 00:26:18,960 parks this year to get them up and running for their, you know, get the 299 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:21,760 pract. Yep. And that's the other thing, too, is, you know, just because I have 300 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:24,960 it in this like we could, you know, instead of doing it through the grant, 301 00:26:23,039 --> 00:26:29,159 we could look into doing something this year so we don't have to wait. 302 00:26:29,679 --> 00:26:39,760 Let's show you Brennan. He had money in an account one time for playground or 303 00:26:37,159 --> 00:26:46,039 for I don't know what he'd have to use it for, but I believe he always um I 304 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:51,840 think each county legislator got like $3,000 like you know and then maybe he 305 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:56,799 could use some of that money to ways he lives over there to Metal Brook if to 306 00:26:54,400 --> 00:27:02,159 get Yeah. So that's within his district. Get something going to just improve 307 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:08,440 these parks until we get the grants. I think would be a great idea. 308 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:08,440 In Mark Mes. 309 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:18,320 Yeah. As far as the grants, 310 00:27:16,559 --> 00:27:23,039 do you have anybody assisting you with grants? So we've got Allison Herman's 311 00:27:21,039 --> 00:27:27,039 going to can help as well. And then I've also got um Carol Moore and C volunteers 312 00:27:25,360 --> 00:27:30,400 and helped me with the writing portion of it. She's written grants. Yep. So 313 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:34,000 she's helped me with like some of the county grants that we've got because 314 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:39,279 it's very you know grants are very specific. Yes. And if you just don't get 315 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:44,720 the letter has perhaps you don't do your eye cross. That's right. So I've got 316 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:50,080 I've got two people that will be helping with this. Okay. Yes. Yeah. Um I know 317 00:27:47,279 --> 00:27:54,799 our parks have we've only done necess minor stuff and we got to do some stuff 318 00:27:52,080 --> 00:28:01,360 this year to our parks just wood chips and stuff like that. What I'd like to do 319 00:27:58,159 --> 00:28:05,600 is uh and I've talked to Billy about it is is appoint a couple of you guys to 320 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:11,760 work with him and maybe somebody from the public to bring back ideas so when 321 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:18,720 we put the budget together we can budget this stuff for next spring. Okay. I do 322 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:24,000 have Marty going out looking at the park here, the walking path for the cracks. 323 00:28:22,159 --> 00:28:27,520 He's going to go up to Breeport and Hlet Park where the basketball and tennis 324 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:32,240 courts are and look at those to see if they're cracked though. But I'd like to 325 00:28:29,279 --> 00:28:38,080 point you, Art, and Carl to work with Billy and maybe get a couple citizens 326 00:28:35,039 --> 00:28:40,880 and come up with these ideas uh that we can bring. I have no problem 327 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:45,200 doing that. In fact, they've already reached out to some of the people and 328 00:28:42,399 --> 00:28:50,240 see what their interests were in this parts, right? And so and that way we can 329 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:54,559 get ideas and then when when we formulate the budget, if we don't get 330 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:59,760 the grant or we get the grant, we can put this stuff that we decide we want to 331 00:28:56,320 --> 00:29:04,120 do into the 2026 budget and then we'll do some of the stuff this year once the 332 00:29:03,039 --> 00:29:09,039 last year Billy in regards to that. I say 333 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:14,480 last year, would you be willing to help him? Absolutely. So what so you talk to 334 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:18,159 some people so what have you heard because that could be something that 335 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:21,840 right well you guys you guys figure out when you can get together and discuss 336 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:27,039 all this because that could be something I could put in the put or mention that 337 00:29:24,799 --> 00:29:31,520 hey this we've got this information from the public. So could I make suggestion 338 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:35,600 this is the perfect time to start thinking about what we've been talking 339 00:29:32,799 --> 00:29:40,080 about and that's the future. Did we run all this through the village too? So we 340 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:47,919 don't I know you you you're working on your duplicate right now. Yep. Yep. So 341 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:53,440 we have um investigated an RFP. I we had a couple talks with Bear Landscaping out 342 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:59,520 of Rochester. They have a satellite office in Ithaca. Uh they do park 343 00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:05,840 architecture. Unfortunately, it was out of our price range uh for 120,000. was a 344 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:10,080 soup to nuts type of deal as far as doing needs assessment focus groups. 345 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:14,480 Then they look at every single park and they come back and they said here's your 346 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:17,919 five-year strategic plan and they also give you you pick your top three 347 00:30:16,159 --> 00:30:21,840 projects within the strategic plan and they'll give you an actual project 348 00:30:19,279 --> 00:30:26,720 guide. Uh I'm thinking also this committee gets 349 00:30:23,919 --> 00:30:31,880 together and come up with ideas also getting once they get their ideas 350 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:36,240 getting you guys together so that we can come up. So in 351 00:30:34,559 --> 00:30:41,919 other words, take a look at this park out here which teach some stuff for kids 352 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:46,960 isn't duplicating right Thorn Street and you know they said when they did it for 353 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:52,000 they've done their big plans for the town of Victor in the city of Udica they 354 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:54,799 said oh we had about six meetings and we kind of just chuckled like you're not 355 00:30:53,440 --> 00:31:02,960 going to get enough people for six meetings I know but you know if that if 356 00:30:59,039 --> 00:31:08,159 they're saying okay you have 30 acres and six parks village for 120. Is that 357 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:15,360 not exactly what we've been talking about here council as far as say is it 358 00:31:11,559 --> 00:31:23,039 150 include all of your parks and now we go out to the community 359 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:28,799 together 15 parks deep now 60 70 acres wide of and then we're not you know as I 360 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:35,200 said on the campaign trail in in these budget meetings we have had the same 361 00:31:31,679 --> 00:31:41,840 park footprint since 1960 for 50 years I feel It's worth pausing and bringing in 362 00:31:38,519 --> 00:31:45,200 some e experts in the field so that for the next 50 years we're setting up a 363 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:50,120 parks plan because we're not going to change it anytime soon after we start 364 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:54,640 doing things to be able to work shouldertoshoulder and have a complete 365 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:59,120 parks plan together headed by one group where we could split that cost that 366 00:31:57,039 --> 00:32:04,559 would make something more reasonable and would be a great it would be fine as 367 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:11,080 long as the tax implications and we could even Gary talk to you guys too. 368 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:16,960 We can get Omar Heights involved in it with 369 00:32:13,799 --> 00:32:22,080 Village Park. We also have the 11th Street Park, the old Mary Thirstson. Oh 370 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:26,640 yeah, I forget about that one. So yeah, that are located solely within the town 371 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:30,720 of Horses. So we could get all three municipalities to So if you three guys 372 00:32:29,279 --> 00:32:35,200 will get together, maybe get a couple citizens, talk to their parts guy. I 373 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:40,240 know the Heights doesn't have a park, but we get some people from the Heights 374 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:44,399 and come up with some ideas and then we can sit down and look at step two. And 375 00:32:43,039 --> 00:32:49,039 then I don't know, John, if it's possible, but I would it would be 376 00:32:46,159 --> 00:32:54,480 amazing if all three municipalities issued an RFP. Yeah. Together or I 377 00:32:52,320 --> 00:33:00,480 probably one has to take lead. I don't know. But I just saying that company 378 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:04,720 that you talked to, you you've had some preliminary. They know what they charge 379 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:10,640 you for that. You think you could get an offthe cuff? Yep. Based upon this. Yeah, 380 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:15,440 absolutely. And and there again, I'm sure a lot of that's fixed cost of them 381 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:20,880 just coming down and doing leg to throw an extra four parks, an extra two parks 382 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:24,320 on top of that. To add an extra six parks, I wouldn't think would double the 383 00:33:22,559 --> 00:33:28,320 cost by any. Yeah, I can't believe it would. Now, Billy, if we're going to 384 00:33:25,679 --> 00:33:33,720 circle back and have that many parks included, what about the larger grant? 385 00:33:32,399 --> 00:33:38,240 So, I mean, we probably could, but I mean, at 386 00:33:36,399 --> 00:33:41,679 this point with for this one, it's so shortterm anyway, it's going to be hard 387 00:33:39,679 --> 00:33:45,919 to do the extra stuff and figure out for other parks. And I know I know the 388 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:50,080 villages applied for park grants, too. Yeah. 5 million for New York Swims. One 389 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:54,799 of the things I would suggest is, you know, here's the thing where Billy's 390 00:33:53,279 --> 00:33:58,720 going to be going and applying for the grant. Nate's already put it in his 391 00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:02,480 budget to apply for the grant. If a village of Ommyra Heights applies for a 392 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:06,559 grant, here's three municipalities competing against each other. Yeah. You 393 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:13,440 know, to be able to come back to this board, my board, Gary, you know, board 394 00:34:10,639 --> 00:34:18,720 and say, you know, we have a master parks plan for three municipalities. I 395 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:24,960 can assure you that is very rare in New York State to be able to do that. And 396 00:34:21,119 --> 00:34:31,040 now do we apply for a $3 million grant 1 million each but in a strategic and 397 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:34,159 comprehensive matter and that will that would be something 398 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:38,159 for next year. Well I think we should apply for this grant that May second one 399 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:43,520 because you're going to transfer pool isn't it one for Yeah. Yeah. and and 400 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:48,639 then let's get together. Let's, you know, get something worked out. Uh, and 401 00:34:46,639 --> 00:34:53,280 that and you can kind They have a parks and recreation guy. Gary, you can give 402 00:34:50,879 --> 00:34:59,040 us some names of give Billy some names down in the Heights area and we'll get 403 00:34:55,839 --> 00:35:03,440 started. We'll get started on this. Anything else, Billy? I mean, that's 404 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:07,520 all. Thank you. You're welcome. Thank you. 405 00:35:06,079 --> 00:35:11,400 Is there anyone else in the audience have any comments on this? 406 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:20,560 Okay. Item 11 is authorizing the supervisor to contract an engineer to 407 00:35:17,839 --> 00:35:27,480 perform a study for the installation of possible two wells at the holding point 408 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:33,119 recreational complex not to exceed $5,000. gentlemen 409 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:38,560 uh most of the with the village now which I don't have an issue I understand 410 00:35:35,119 --> 00:35:41,960 charging us for water most of our use in the parks is watering our lawns and we 411 00:35:41,119 --> 00:35:46,440 don't know what it's going to cost us 412 00:35:44,240 --> 00:35:50,880 nothing's been budgeted and and we looked a few years ago to put an 413 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:56,960 irrigation system in there and it was very expensive my theory is to look at 414 00:35:55,040 --> 00:36:00,720 if it's number one feasible to put a couple wells in there and All those 415 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:03,839 wells would be is to water the fields. We would still have water over there. 416 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:08,400 Yeah. You couldn't you couldn't use them. You couldn't use them for because 417 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:13,200 there's available there's available public water. So I don't believe we 418 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:17,839 could use we wouldn't be using those for toilets 419 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:23,200 and so between that and and perhaps the car wash they could be it could be used. 420 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:28,079 It's just what would the scope of an engineer 421 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:32,240 do compared to a welder that comes in and say, "Yeah, we can do this." And 422 00:36:30,079 --> 00:36:37,359 well, they would tell us the locations. Well, chances are it'll go over 423 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:42,160 $35,000. So, we will need to have some sort of method to do the bidding. It's 424 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:45,119 legal. Okay. And uh yeah, it's and it might be something that doesn't come to 425 00:36:43,599 --> 00:36:49,839 fruition. I don't know. No, we're getting our water currently from the 426 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:55,760 village, right? Yes. My my thought is, and this is just me thinking, is that if 427 00:36:53,440 --> 00:37:00,240 we already have a system in place and we're getting the water from there now, 428 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:04,640 why wouldn't we try to say, okay, opposed to putting in a whole new system 429 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:08,480 with wells and maintenance and all those things, why wouldn't we cut a deal and 430 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:13,280 say, why don't we give some of your tax revenue that we're currently getting 431 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:17,680 from you back to you to to offset your expenses? Well, we want to look at this. 432 00:37:16,079 --> 00:37:21,200 Yeah, that's that's a possibility. Possibility is perhaps we've never we've 433 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:26,800 never had to pay for the water and I understand their situation charging it. 434 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:30,400 I do. Okay. But, you know, we didn't we didn't plan on any of this because when 435 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:35,359 I got the notifications was when we got the water bills. The other thing is is 436 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:40,400 perhaps rather than have a a metered situation where maybe this year we're 437 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:44,400 going to spend a lot because it'll be dry, next year we might not spend so 438 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:50,640 much, maybe we can work out as a contract for a flat rate for for 439 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:57,119 provision of water for their and then that would and it might save them money 440 00:37:52,400 --> 00:38:00,800 because they have to install a um a reader meter on there and that's going 441 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:04,560 to cost them a why why would they want to waste that money. Well, when I when 442 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:08,640 I'm looking at I'm saying it's still taxpayers money. So, if you're looking 443 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:13,040 at the taxpayers money, whether it's coming from the town or the village, 444 00:38:11,119 --> 00:38:16,640 this is going to if if we do this, this will come out of the remaining ARPA 445 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:20,160 fund, right? But it's still money from taxpayers. No, this isn't ARPA fund is 446 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:23,280 not money from taxpayers, isn't it? Federal money. No, it's it's it's 447 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:26,880 federal money. Federal money. That's what I'm saying. But it's not just our 448 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:31,560 local tax. Pay federal taxes. But I'm just saying that's my make too much 449 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:37,760 money. But the the the money the tax money that we charge 450 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:41,520 them does not include the parks. So it doesn't matter though if we still it's 451 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:46,640 just money. You know, it's what we've got and we could we I think I think 452 00:38:43,599 --> 00:38:51,680 talking about a a flat rate contract may be may be the best scenario at that 453 00:38:49,599 --> 00:38:54,720 point. But my thought in speaking about this is that if we're not using that 454 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:58,880 money that we're talking about, government money, maybe we can use it on 455 00:38:56,720 --> 00:39:03,119 something else that's manageable proposed to duplicate services when we 456 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:08,079 already have all I'm going to tell you is go out to 457 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:13,640 that park in the summertime. Really go out and look village people have been 458 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:20,160 there. I've been out there park village that park is utilized a lot and 459 00:39:18,240 --> 00:39:24,560 we bring in a lot of people in this community for tournaments. It's right 460 00:39:22,240 --> 00:39:29,920 near my house that are using softball fields that are using uh baseball fields 461 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:34,320 and they're using our hotels and motel. Okay. It's not just BMX. It's the 462 00:39:32,079 --> 00:39:38,240 softball. Now we have the Falcons hard ball that wanted us to do some things 463 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:41,920 because they want to expand their tournament. The girls softball asked us 464 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:45,920 to put up a couple permanent fences because now they can expand their 465 00:39:43,599 --> 00:39:50,720 tournaments. People are coming from We had the girls softball last year. We had 466 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:54,160 teams from Canada and Virginia and and South Carolina coming up. People don't 467 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:58,560 know this until you go out and see what's Oh, we all think that's great. 468 00:39:56,320 --> 00:40:02,040 Oh, I do. It's perfect. But but in the exception of park, do we all envision 469 00:40:00,240 --> 00:40:08,280 that? No. Elvis. So you got to you got I think 470 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:13,359 what our saying is, you know, do we run this, you 471 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:20,640 know, Kevin, help me understand this meter. So as I think most of you have 472 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:25,760 heard, uh, on the villages website, we have our infrastructure report. On that 473 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:30,480 infrastructure report includes the Sesuana River Basin. So a little 474 00:40:27,839 --> 00:40:35,440 background, we know that 17 years ago, every 15 years, the village has to apply 475 00:40:32,720 --> 00:40:40,880 to the Susan River Basin to pull water that we do on a daily basis. 15 years 476 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:46,400 ago, the village went to get their permit, and it was a 22% leakage rate. 477 00:40:43,839 --> 00:40:51,119 Uh New York State has a maximum leakage rate of 20%. Sesuana River Basin said, 478 00:40:49,599 --> 00:40:55,200 "Hey, we're going to give you a 15-year permit, but you're going to take care of 479 00:40:52,240 --> 00:41:01,359 that 2%, aren't you?" And at that time, the village said, "Yes. 480 00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:06,440 when they reapplied last year or the after 15 years the leakage rate went 481 00:41:04,319 --> 00:41:11,520 from 22% to 56%. Uh the village did not take care of 482 00:41:09,119 --> 00:41:16,160 anything and it got worse. Uh at that moment in time we were leaking over a 483 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:21,880 quarter billion gallons of water. uh they didn't trust us, so they only 484 00:41:19,599 --> 00:41:29,359 gave us a 5-year temporary working permit, which will end September 15, 485 00:41:26,839 --> 00:41:36,240 2027. To the credit of our water department, we have moved from 56% in 486 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:43,920 2023 to this year, we're up to we're down to 29%. 487 00:41:39,079 --> 00:41:48,560 But what leakage is is water utilized in the system that didn't go through a 488 00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:53,119 meter. So there's two components of leakage. There's one where it breaks and 489 00:41:51,359 --> 00:41:58,800 the water gets out of the system before it gets to the meter. The other place is 490 00:41:55,920 --> 00:42:03,839 sources that use water that aren't metered. The Holding Point Recreational 491 00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:10,000 Complex and the Town and Country Fire Department have no meters on them. So 492 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:15,040 every gallon used there is going towards that 493 00:42:11,079 --> 00:42:20,079 29%. So where we have spent hundreds of thousands of dollars in IH hydrant to 494 00:42:17,359 --> 00:42:26,880 start doing leak detection, where we have spent $5 million to replace 1% of 495 00:42:23,839 --> 00:42:32,960 the oldest pipes in the village. This is really the most common sensical place to 496 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:39,319 go. This meters do not mean bills. meters mean that we can account for our 497 00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:45,480 water usage to try and get under that 20% before September 15, 498 00:42:42,599 --> 00:42:51,760 2027. Yes, it will cost the village $40,000 to install the meter we already 499 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:58,319 have on your 6-in main going into the holding point. That is backflow present 500 00:42:55,680 --> 00:43:04,000 uh preventers, a vault, and all that stuff. Regardless what you guys do, we 501 00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:08,720 will have to install the meter because that is one of the biggest unmetered 502 00:43:06,319 --> 00:43:14,160 sources out there regardless of where it comes. The bill is secondary. Uh the 503 00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:20,000 bill could come after the meter, but right now we have a year and a half to 504 00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:25,280 be focusing on unmetered usage. So that's why a meter will be going on this 505 00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:29,920 year at the holding point. Kevin, that meter only serve the holding point. 506 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:35,040 Correct. you have metered. That's why you were able to get bills there. You 507 00:43:32,079 --> 00:43:39,760 will have meters on the other points in your system. Yeah. But that that 40,000 508 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:43,599 is to to meter that only. You're correct. The rest of the the rest of the 509 00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:47,920 place out there is all me. And that's on us having the meter. So it would have 510 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:52,640 been an extra 20,000 to buy the meter and then the associated cost. The rest 511 00:43:50,720 --> 00:43:56,319 of the holding point is is already metered. The buildings out there. This 512 00:43:54,640 --> 00:44:00,480 is just for that 6-in bay that's coming in. And Town of Country Fire Department 513 00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:04,079 only has 2 in going in. So, we can do that in house with exist. So, we could 514 00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:08,720 still probably maybe do a flat rate, right? Absolutely. I think you just need 515 00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:12,319 to account for the water. We just Yeah. every 516 00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:18,480 That's a good explanation because you know, and there again to Councilman 517 00:44:15,359 --> 00:44:22,880 Lor's part, is it is it one gallon or is it a million? until we get a meter on 518 00:44:20,720 --> 00:44:28,319 there and actually have data. We're just throwing, you know, darts at a wall and 519 00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:33,280 seeing what lands. So that's what Well, let's go Hannah River. Do they do a 520 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:38,480 yearly measurement on how much water you're pumping and how much because we 521 00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:43,520 are so bad in our we do a monthly. We have to do a monthly because these 522 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:47,680 fields are used four and a half months probably out of the year. The rest not I 523 00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:51,440 wonder what the meter reading. Yeah, it's a yearly for the le 524 00:44:49,599 --> 00:44:57,760 What's funny is they're in the Suscuana Basin, but we're not right. We're in the 525 00:44:54,400 --> 00:45:05,839 Yeah, we're in Lake. It splits right out there. I I I really would like to 526 00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:12,079 Well, now that it's been odd on this $5,000. Sure. I I have I have I have an 527 00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:15,760 idea. I think we delay this. Yes. We don't we don't need to we don't need 528 00:45:13,359 --> 00:45:19,599 to go there yet, but I I I have an idea, but I got to talk to with the board and 529 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:24,960 you know, you guys want to talk tonight, we could go an executive session and 530 00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:30,480 talk, invite Kevin to stay, but uh and I have an idea. Maybe we can work out. But 531 00:45:27,599 --> 00:45:35,839 yeah, I would I would just say that we'll just No action. No action and and 532 00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:40,240 we'll remove it for now and then let's talk. 533 00:45:37,839 --> 00:45:45,280 Okay. The last item is conference attendance for the town clerk, deputy 534 00:45:43,119 --> 00:45:50,480 clown clerk Amanda Hillman for the New York Association of Tax Receivers and 535 00:45:47,839 --> 00:45:56,760 Collectors June 8th through June 11th in Lake George. It's budgeted item. They go 536 00:45:53,359 --> 00:46:02,599 every year. I need a motion to move. Second collectors. Yes. Who's going to 537 00:45:59,119 --> 00:46:08,440 be left to work out there? Uh Terry and Tina. 538 00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:12,440 Okay. You are you a notary? You can We'll talk. 539 00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:20,880 It's not I had a notorized. Stop it. Yeah. And no, I'm not helping you. Take 540 00:46:18,079 --> 00:46:26,560 the vote. Mr. Ripco. Hi. Mr. Lewis. Hi. Mr. Ziggler. Hi. Mr. Lorie. Hi. Mr. 541 00:46:23,839 --> 00:46:31,599 Fischer. Hi. That concludes our agenda. Uh Carl, you have anything? Um, I'm 542 00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:37,440 good. And unless we're going to make a motion. Oh, yeah. Let's go around and 543 00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:43,359 then Yeah. Gary, you got anything? No. Art. No. Donnie, what? You got anything 544 00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:47,280 you want to bring up? No. Okay. Okay. Now, I need a motion to go into a motion 545 00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:53,160 to go into executive session for contract negotiation with regard to the 546 00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:53,160 village water. 547 00:46:54,000 --> 00:47:02,560 Do we have to put in Mayor? Yes. Mayor Adam. 548 00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:05,880 Okay. was the first, 549 00:47:10,319 --> 00:47:19,599 Mr. Lewis. Hi, Mr. Ziggler. Hi, Mr. Lori. Hi, Mr. Fischer. Hi. Thank you 550 00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:25,839 all. Uh, and again, with this park stuff going on, if you got any ideas, please 551 00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:30,119 get it get it to us and we'll go from there so we can get the budgeted.