[0:08] first around here's a CS family quest
always rusty one two loaders
[0:17] Salty's one for the second 25 piece 20
foot an ar-15 e-book spent spent over us
[0:26] I'll certainly back and we've had some
people here that can answer any further
[0:32] questions but just to start as this is
it was fairly miss 48 years of my street
[0:38] a little of down the road from majestic
mister case and it was recently rezone
[0:48] from agricultural to our one and it was
reason because in our a agricultural
[0:55] district the mineral of sizes five acres
so this is under five acres so that's
[1:00] part of the reason for the rezone the
purpose of this CSM is for a
[1:05] single-family home on a lot one with the
intent that the remainder of it at some
[1:10] time in the future may be a subdivision
of single-family homes the Allergan
[1:17] economy has reviewed us with the you
know for the access to the crust street
[1:21] because it's a county highway and they
are okay with it so I guess that's it
[1:26] and we have some representatives here
carrying questions
[1:33] they are the future homeowners that
we'll be building on the property I
[1:37] guess is the question who is going above
110 rejection appears appropriate for
[1:50] this attentiveness
the area to the west of that has been
[1:57] Riesling our village our comprehensive
plan this areas identified as future
[2:10] residential and the current part of the
property owners of lot to also own
[2:16] property across the streets in the West
all property owners within 300 feet of
[2:20] and sense this for their opportunity to
be thorough account and comment I have
[2:26] not seen any any comments through email
or otherwise on this parcel so everybody
[2:33] was here so standing up I think so if
there's anybody that subjects to this
[2:41] CSM you just mentioned that the current
corners of what tool or not to right now
[2:50] is you know which watch through that
time very old
[2:58] yells now this is the other CSF okay we
have so there is the remaining 35 acres
[3:04] is still on by folks holding the books
home homestead moment and and then once
[3:15] it's a good week we will have two near
future cluster I'll second it
[3:31] recommending to the recommending
approval to the board sorry and it is on
[3:37] this Thursday's village for agenda for
final approval via filming plus all of
[3:55] us number three cos Delta by the zero
two seven one five as well
[4:03] honking part of a Salty's clever both
these quarter section twenty five pieces
[4:10] have are 15 feet the new estate lol
speed and I'm not sure if this is still
[4:18] alive I know this is my plan is
requested to remove this from the agenda
[4:23] for today the homeowners association is
still reviewing them out there's I don't
[4:29] know all the details of it and I do have
I did receive a comment from this one
[4:36] today since
you know until today that this was being
[4:40] withdrawn so I I will have this for you
if you would like it so you know for the
[5:12] taskforce that started their project in
2016 June of 2016 I believe usually it
[5:20] was and we had several published
informational meetings to gather input
[5:24] standards we have some visioning
sessions and so forth you decided up
[5:32] we planning excuse me young Historical
Preservation Committee and this
[5:39] admission and both of those Commission
committee's recommended a fool civility
[5:43] horn it went to the village board for
caring in November and we did have some
[5:48] input from the polling again so they
asked me to bring it back to this
[5:51] committee commission to review for any
of the comments so in this current state
[6:00] that you have in front of you and has
not changed from when you originally
[6:03] approved it or recommended approval and
I just gotta find my paper here where
[6:10] the comments that are that we received
on it than the earth wanted this
[6:15] emission committee to review and these
people take action to make changes or
[6:20] not you choose was when was the order of
the multi-tenant commercial property on
[6:31] the south side that currently houses the
Trinity driving school melon company it
[6:37] was magnolias and then the real estate
company their comment was that the
[6:42] requirement that signage and only 5% to
only one on the street facing causes our
[6:48] a difficulty for a multi-tenant building
so they are asking that we allow make a
[6:54] an allowance for multi-tenant buildings
have more than one site Street facing so
[7:00] that each of their tenants could have
signage so that was that requests and
[7:05] then you to the tenants would be alone
whatever in a square yes and that's
[7:14] that's what he was repent that's what
that part of the order had requested my
[7:18] personal
[7:24] I was a very firm page high one side
University punished
[7:36] this only limits number of signs of
structure and not number of parties and
[7:41] canapes I think I about to be actually
email from him on my printer but it's
[7:51] actually the owner of the multi multi
tenants property was asking is that we
[7:57] make a an exception to multi tenant
properties and that is the only one that
[8:05] we have in the downtown that's
multi-tenancy actually if you give me a
[8:13] minute I think I might have last night
on the printer because I did print on
[8:17] these email directly
[8:22] four plates there because every woman
the other comment was from the regarding
[8:32] the allowance of permitted uses yes so
use our car dealerships are not
[8:38] identifying the police's
worse was that it's the space and
[8:44] everything that at that psi is 1/4
especially one of the size of ours
[8:49] however the current dealership would be
grandfathered in and the way grandfather
[8:56] it works is that it would be allowable
in perpetuity like so at least fifty
[9:01] percent of it gets wiped out then that
it would not be allowed and the other
[9:07] one would be if ceased being a
dealership for a period of 12 months or
[9:13] more and then it could not in American
leadership if it was tomatoes or
[9:17] something else but once then it would
not be able to go back to that if that's
[9:30] the current language the person that are
the president that had had questioned it
[9:37] said that he is concerned that people
frequently assess that his his property
[9:44] being removed to the district we have
not established the district boundaries
[9:47] yet we've proposed some possibilities
which would include this but this
[9:53] property because the location and
features of it but it's that's still
[9:58] another process we would still need to
adopt the code with the language and
[10:02] then we would also need to resolve the
properties into the new districts
[10:10] short-answer release
we would have to announce right to
[10:15] exclude gays we would need to not
include it in the in the district we
[10:21] have an established a disagreement right
now this is strictly establishing the
[10:25] core the regulations associated with the
districts that is not geographic and
[10:30] then creating a tool to review with you
to do anything on this bike you get to
[10:35] deduct to the board we need to adopt it
establishing the new district and then
[10:40] we would need to into the I'm not sure
what you mean me where you study what he
[11:05] was offering he didn't want to be
included in the desert you're saying the
[11:09] quality ability to do that mean I'm
saying Jim
[11:12] generally for is listen
such a request so forth may very well
[11:23] decide we're isn't it a decision come on
yeah keep in mind what you're asking me
[11:30] illegally can push come to shove can we
do it we can't use whether or not you do
[11:35] it against this objection but though we
think because I guess the staffs answer
[11:39] to that would be your grandfather and
for as long as you continue to have the
[11:43] current use it's the only way to stop
I've used it for that purpose that then
[11:48] it will become part of that right but
even if we would rezone it 3-minute week
[11:54] week we developed a district without a
minute and he went away
[11:58] we couldn't as a ward and develop that
probably into the district they would
[12:06] require it another separate yeah and
that attention so that would be the
[12:10] reason to do it if you thought we really
want that property in there and so that
[12:14] when he does believe that it makes sense
to be a part of the district that would
[12:18] be a jury that would be reasonably could
have known just have brought the friends
[12:22] at close oh yeah yeah yeah right right
hey I mean I guess my might be just for
[12:29] a staff perspective and planning
background is I would one recommend
[12:33] approval all the language as it is
regarding the the car dealership because
[12:38] I don't think we want any car key in the
current downtown forget it excluding
[12:43] what we're talking about now the
specific one we don't want another one
[12:46] there no you know we don't want that
[12:50] right so I would recommend keeping the
language as it is becoming bats and from
[12:56] a planning perspective you know
completely objective on that on that
[13:00] part as they certainly have a community
planner I would say that you get into
[13:05] disrupt because it is right there doctor
and just with the knowledge that if he
[13:10] goes away that's beauty's grandfather
[13:15] doesn't want to be in season so he
doesn't want to because that couldn't be
[13:19] is that gonna be debt right or knowledge
they know I think that requires further
[13:22] discussion at that point all right who
else would proceed whether he got notice
[13:27] that this was happening he didn't know
what it was yeah exactly he that was his
[13:33] concern so that's really kind of a hurry
we can come to later yeah but well dad
[13:38] said to him that works we would
unequivocally excluded from the district
[13:43] I I wouldn't say that at this point I
think it's too early I think it if you
[13:46] understood then shorten that going to
affect them I don't know why you have a
[13:50] problem if you understood the term
[13:54] and I did sit down with them after the
meeting I went and visited their and
[13:57] explained the grandfathering and they
answered his questions and he does some
[14:02] I want to be imaged opens not correct
but it's like Bob said I mean I think
[14:06] that's something that as we move into
the next step of this we need to first
[14:09] establish the district then we need to
start adding properties and then the
[14:14] other part is in regarding the site so
here's what what the Patrick McNichols
[14:23] requested that if the regulation could
be amended to offer the ability for a
[14:27] multi business building to utilize 15%
of a total street frontage area for the
[14:33] total area of all signs and allow for
one sign for each business in the
[14:38] building he feels that would remove the
conflict so I would say you know I think
[14:44] this 15% is reasonable I would say and
allow one per per build-out sign for
[14:53] tenant because then that could exceed
the 15% I would say 15% you know and
[15:00] however that be partitioned off I mean
at 1:07 15% then you don't want for more
[15:05] weather all in rating language to limit
the total to 15 percent right it's up to
[15:09] them how they doing
does that come in on time
[15:19] at the size eh I just have like one sign
per pendant right right then I hope a g8
[15:27] this is that if applicable the Boltzmann
great I would say you know up to or 15%
[15:33] for multi tenants in that part otherwise
five percent right so 15 percent for
[15:42] multi tenant buildings and then under on
page 5 under
[15:52] the very first part which says one site
or Street frontage I would say maybe
[15:58] four four multi-tenant buildings one per
tenants up to a maximum of fifteen
[16:05] percent of the area I mean if that's
something that you guys still feel we
[16:14] should accommodate personally I think
it's a legitimate question that seems to
[16:19] be you guys yeah so like multi tenants
maximum of one per tenant up to 15% of
[16:31] the percent yeah for a total of fifteen
percent of the most couple additional
[16:50] everything else as we treat this before
yes and the only other comments made at
[16:56] the public hearing was a little baffling
because it was about not being notified
[17:01] and remember that conversation and just
to give us this group because as far as
[17:11] not being notified it was in I counted
three newsletters that are directed mail
[17:16] to all people within the village it was
in a total twice in the press star once
[17:23] in the
and paper we actually had myself at one
[17:28] time one door-to-door downtown we had
officers handing out flyers we had it on
[17:34] Facebook we had it in our village
notices a penguin
[17:38] we went literally over moon yeah we're
actually complimented by East Central
[17:42] for the amount of outreach we tried to
do but they didn't have any comments for
[17:55] every during the center the saltiness to
it because of it was just so what I
[18:04] guess what I would ask for as a motion
to recommend approval to the village
[18:11] board with that change regarding the
signage and we do not have to have a
[18:17] public hearing again correct so
recommend to live with those changes
[18:22] okay this with those changes page five
the one sign pretended for a
[18:32] multi-tenant up to 15%
well wall area and it was 15% for month
[18:43] a 10 number five institutional zoning
district hey this one is sound it's been
[19:02] a while since we've met and if you
recall if there was some case law events
[19:08] basically done in our sign orbits
because those signs can be based are
[19:14] regulated based on community so if we
regulate them in a manner that requires
[19:19] you to read them than this that allowed
so what this did is among other things
[19:25] for customs issues is that our schools
and churches are in the single-family
[19:32] residential zoning district in the past
we regulated like signs and we made
[19:37] special exceptions for churches and
schools in that district but now we
[19:41] can't do that because how you know it's
church our school unless you read the
[19:45] sign so the way to remedy that issue
because otherwise we have to have the
[19:51] same zoning or same regulations for all
uses in that this
[19:55] as far as the science so our waiter
anyone many that is
[20:00] a separate district which is called
institutional here sometimes on campus
[20:05] that sound different regulations
campuses in churches residential and and
[20:15] this is really good
regardless of the site issues and
[20:20] because schools have changed a lot from
back when the zoning code was created
[20:24] and actually if you look at our school
on campus the whole areas of violation
[20:30] right now because they're single-family
residential school districts only allows
[20:33] one accessory detached building well we
have a parcel with your students on it
[20:38] so each of the remaining two schools are
in violation technically so what a lot
[20:45] of communities are doing is creating
this separate zoning district so that's
[20:49] what I proposed that portable does I
don't know what I'm going to have time
[20:54] to do it right now the things that we
have coin on and I know Bob is the same
[20:58] way but I just wanted to first introduce
that idea it might be something that we
[21:04] would need to look into getting
essentials help again or maybe
[21:07] contracting out because we don't have
the staff resources right now to do it
[21:12] and I do think it's it's a high priority
because like I said right now everything
[21:17] was really kind of in limbo
of SBI I did as part of the actually are
[21:24] actually the various requests by the
school for its scoreboard Steve Gomez
[21:29] from blue Design Group was at that
meeting and I had mentioned that this is
[21:34] what I think we should do moving forward
and he said he would like to be a part
[21:38] of that process too so I think he would
be able to provide some of the insight
[21:42] so I suggest what we're probably going
to need to do is again create a task
[21:45] force to work with these central to work
on a new zoning district I don't need
[21:52] any motion or anything I just wanted to
bring that up to since we are ready in
[21:57] having the meeting for the other end
items so this is something that will
[22:01] we'll be moving forward on I don't know
what
[22:08] maybe questions on mobile or the drawing
boys
[22:13] this is just update you around I know
those of you on the other on the
[22:18] Commission last year know that we went
through a long period trying to clean up
[22:22] the press Street property that has been
cleaned up although we do need to
[22:26] redress that with some some defense
issues at some point so we that one's
[22:33] been cleaned up Bob and I are currently
working on the property behind the wire
[22:39] factory on Douglas streets that one's
been kind of challenging because it's
[22:44] bank owned and that always puts a new
spin on it
[22:48] I currently had a letter out to get some
cleanup done on the apartments on
[22:54] Lakeview because there's some abandoned
vehicles the parking lot and garbage
[22:59] illegal dumping some who do have a
letter out to that property or requiring
[23:04] clean up by March 16th and that date
then I'll follow up and do another
[23:10] drive-by to see if it's been cleaned up
and then otherwise we had some
[23:15] complaints during to six months since
they're more since this group has met
[23:19] one of them was across the street from
the toy factories on spruce and that
[23:25] since been cleaned up so on and in
periodic ones here and there abandoned
[23:30] furniture and so forth so I I kind of
think because we've been trying to stay
[23:35] on top of them and we are being more
more active on it I think it seems to be
[23:41] like it's kind of messing up that's
gonna see it yeah I mean it's
[23:47] get a little better so we're still
working on it we plug out our way on
[23:51] those zoning violations when they're
aware of them and keep working at it
[23:58] thank you
next we have next meeting date
[24:05] yeah I'll just I'll be in touch when I
when I suspect that the CSM will come
[24:10] back again the other one that was on
Grandview that was on the schedule
[24:15] around each other saying okay I don't
really foresee any there's nothing else
[24:23] that I absolutely know there that I know
it's coming forward as a potential
[24:26] request not at this point but as I get a
new zoning rezone requests or anything
[24:32] else that requires actually I kind of
not gotten a group together unless I
[24:36] have something specific that needs
action and then I bring the others live
[24:39] in so I'm doing that
when are we looking at the second
[24:43] Tuesday yeah I lost track of which one
we're talking about the first news feed
[24:48] and then we kept traditionally we're
going to substitute a couple of people
[24:52] who had problems so we switched it but I
don't know is that's still the case with
[24:55] a group or not well Roger told me today
I saw in the hallway that he said that
[25:00] until the church has done its every
Tuesday for him that he has meetings so
[25:04] it's just Tuesdays until the church
project is done to avoid to eventually
[25:09] refuse Oh mark is not part of the
committee he was wondering why he his
[25:13] wife told him that there was an economic
development meeting tonight
[25:15] oh I told them no they're blowing
something like next week I was like okay
[25:21] yeah we're working on an app now and we
don't have a schedule yet we've got a 10
[25:26] mm okay well how about the rest of you
this long as I has a notice for me it's
[25:34] appropriate yeah my only conflict is the
fact that I'm still the that was golf
[25:39] coach at the high school and we I just
looking at my schedule when we are
[25:43] peppered with Tuesday's we've got all
kinds of them in there and being in the
[25:47] FBA now I could me and find the lack for
example it's like I'll never make it
[25:51] back
and also one tell me in June does that
[25:54] yeah yeah let's yeah wants to stay
tournament not I've been both with the
[25:59] boys baseball to personal and we won
stage is that was a Tuesday and Thursday
[26:04] so and then the minutes you know God
forbid to get ran down or something like
[26:09] that Monday and then nobody schedule it
for Tuesday exactly I mean after
[26:12] Tuesday's open or private only we did
this time was just we have the the CSM
[26:19] said we have the request to get it on
and as soon as we could and so on you
[26:24] just kind of pulled everybody I mean we
could just do that if it's something
[26:27] that the only Kelly said well it's a
crapshoot really it's not about
[26:32] Tuesday's aren't but I mean we could
just you know take a look you know if
[26:36] there's a certain week or to be frame
where we like to have a meeting and just
[26:40] see what you can get
just pull buddy in the foreground a step
[26:51] oh and I'm sorry that the last thing
this was in your packets is that there's
[26:56] some pen