1 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:34,840 Hello everyone. It is 6:00. I'd like to call this meeting to order. Thank you 2 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:41,320 all for attending. We are going to uh start out with a poem 3 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:45,400 that Dr. Sterling would like to read and that will be in lieu of our prayer 4 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:49,160 tonight. So, if you just uh give her your attention for just a couple 5 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:52,680 minutes. Dr. Sterling? All right. Good evening. 6 00:02:50,920 --> 00:02:58,800 All right. The title of this poem is The Legend of the Sand Dollar. 7 00:02:55,760 --> 00:03:03,239 Upon this odd-shaped seashell, a legend grand is told 8 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:08,239 about the life of Jesus, the wondrous tale of old. 9 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:14,160 The center marking plainly shows the well-known guiding star 10 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:18,080 that led to tiny Bethlehem the wise men from afar. 11 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:22,519 The Christmas flower, poinsettia, for his nativity, the resurrection, too, 12 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:28,280 is marked, the Easter lily see. 13 00:03:24,959 --> 00:03:34,440 Five wounds were suffered by our Lord from nails and a Roman spear 14 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:40,239 when he died for us upon the cross. The wounds show plainly here. 15 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:45,800 Within the shell, should it be broken, five doves of peace are found 16 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:51,800 to emphasize this legend. So, may peace and love abound. 17 00:03:49,239 --> 00:03:56,880 May Christmas season be filled with many blessings for you and your families. 18 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:56,880 Thank you. 19 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:05,120 Thank you. All right. Uh can I ask you to stand for 20 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:05,120 the Pledge of Allegiance, please? 21 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:11,760 Pledge of Allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the 22 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:18,640 United States of America. And to the republic for which it stands, 23 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:22,160 one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 24 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:38,480 Okay. Um agenda approval uh is there a motion 25 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:41,560 for the public hearing agenda approval? I move to approve the agenda for the 26 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:44,800 public hearing. Thank you, Tina. Is there a second? 27 00:04:43,280 --> 00:04:48,320 Second. Thank you, James. All in favor, please 28 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:52,200 raise your hand. Great. Uh abstentions? 29 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:54,720 All right. We've got one. We've got one item on our public hearing 30 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:58,840 agenda this evening. That's the comprehensive plan 5-year update for 31 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:01,000 2025. Uh 32 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,680 Jennifer, could you confirm that notice has been given? 33 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:05,800 Yes. All right. Then I'll hereby open that 34 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:09,320 public hearing, and I assume uh Jerry, you're going to report on this. All 35 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:12,400 right, Mr. White Dr. White. Yes, thank you. 36 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:16,760 Uh good evening, Mayor and Council. Uh this is a public hearing on the 37 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:21,720 comprehensive plan 5-year update. Uh we do this obviously every 5 years. The 38 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:25,520 city also annually updates its comprehensive plan to 39 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:28,720 uh deal with its short-term work program, or also called community work 40 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:33,600 program, and also the capital improvements 41 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:38,440 element for impact fees. Uh so, tonight is uh the state rules require that we 42 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:43,720 have a hearing. Um Planning Commission had one at their 43 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:48,720 last meeting, um because they're engaged in planning as well, of course. 44 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:52,040 And uh this is the second of an initial public hearing. 45 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:56,240 The purpose of it, it may seem a little odd. Why are we having a hearing? We 46 00:05:53,680 --> 00:06:00,480 don't have a new plan or haven't talked about anything new yet. Uh but the idea 47 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:04,280 is that we'll tell the public, we'll inform the public 48 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:08,160 of the process that we will follow and also um 49 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:11,200 give them an opportunity to initially say, "Here's what I think some of the 50 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:16,160 issues are. Uh please consider this or that in the 51 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:19,080 update." So, um I'm going to go through with the the first one is the purpose of 52 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:24,160 the of the meeting, which I've basically 53 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:27,520 explained um all of that. We will um we'll listen to anyone at the end of 54 00:06:25,919 --> 00:06:30,919 this presentation, which shouldn't take me long. 55 00:06:28,919 --> 00:06:33,919 Um and then we'll see if anybody has comments. 56 00:06:32,280 --> 00:06:36,919 Uh the next one is what is the comprehensive plan? I think the council 57 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:41,360 knows, but for the benefit of the public, it's a 58 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:45,360 20-year guide to decision-makings. It It uh decision-making. 59 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:48,800 It guides our decisions with regard to zoning, 60 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:54,520 uh rezoning decisions, variances, conditional use permits, 61 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:59,760 preliminary plats, and so forth. It's not a legal document per se, but we do 62 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:05,520 reference it in zoning ordinance, and it's one of the guiding uh principles 63 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:09,919 behind whether we approve a rezoning or don't approve it. 64 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:13,440 Uh it has vision a vision statements, goals, and policies, 65 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:17,280 uh which we also look at. The most important piece probably is the future 66 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:21,040 land use plan. You can see that pictured here. 67 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:27,200 Uh we most recently amended and updated this plan uh just a few months ago. 68 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:32,880 Uh to in order to uh bring the base map up to date, to put annexations on there. 69 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:37,640 Uh we've got the um the new projects that we have annexed in, including 70 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:42,240 tribute, and also the uh the Providence Group's 71 00:07:38,919 --> 00:07:46,200 project called Aberdeen. Um so, um 72 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:51,680 the comprehensive plan is it has a five-year program which is supposed to 73 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:56,560 tell us everything major that the city wants to do in the next five years to 74 00:07:53,800 --> 00:08:02,000 implement its plans and policies. And of course we do annually update the 75 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:06,640 comprehensive plan with regard to the impact fee program and also the 76 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:10,560 community work program. So briefly, uh, just so you know the 77 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:13,480 components that are going to be in the comprehensive plan and that are in the 78 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:15,960 plan now. 79 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:19,360 We've got a goals element which is vision, goals, and 80 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:23,280 policies. We have what's called a needs and 81 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:27,919 opportunities element. The state likes to see us 82 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:31,880 put in a somewhat succinct fashion what is it that we really need to focus on in 83 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:35,400 the next five years and that's your opportunities. 84 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:39,840 Your needs, they also call this your your SWOT analysis. 85 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:43,919 Most everybody knows what that stands for, strengths, weaknesses, 86 00:08:41,479 --> 00:08:48,760 opportunities, and threats. Uh, other elements, uh, the work program 87 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:52,560 as I said, there's a broadband element that's not really much of anything. 88 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:57,400 The capital improvement element I've already mentioned. Uh, we do not have to 89 00:08:55,320 --> 00:09:01,160 have an economic development element but we do have a land use element and that's 90 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:04,560 required because we have a zoning ordinance. 91 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:08,320 There is no housing element required either. Um, 92 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:13,200 only for, uh, cities that have community development 93 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:17,839 block grant entitlement money do they have to have a housing element. Uh, this 94 00:09:15,560 --> 00:09:23,080 is not to say that we can't have housing policies, economic development policies, 95 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:27,400 environmental protection is not an element but we have environmental 96 00:09:24,839 --> 00:09:30,600 protection policies and so forth. Moving on, the process that we'll 97 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:35,280 follow, um, this is the first step of, uh, several, 98 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:39,520 uh, these public hearings. Um, planning commission held theirs in 99 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:43,400 November. This is uh, December for the city council. Uh, we have appointed a 100 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:47,600 steering committee. Uh, they'll meet. Uh, it's up to the 101 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:52,040 committee itself how many times they want to meet, but we envision five or 102 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:58,240 six meetings over a five to six-month time period. We can also, uh, 103 00:09:55,400 --> 00:10:02,840 add on other public participation efforts. I've got that shown here a 104 00:10:00,680 --> 00:10:07,280 little bit later. Uh, I'll cover it briefly. Uh, recommendations will be 105 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:12,440 made by the steering committee and the planning commission around the middle of 106 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:16,760 the year 2025. That's June. Uh, we'll have review by the Northeast Georgia 107 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:22,440 Regional Commission and the state once we've submitted a draft for review and 108 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:28,520 then we will all of this process will end with adoption no later than October 109 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:33,320 31st, 2025. That's the city's qualified local government status deadline. 110 00:10:31,560 --> 00:10:39,600 Uh, the rest of this, uh, steering committee, um, listed on the steering 111 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:43,760 committee. Next slide is, um, Uh, we've got four members of this council on the 112 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:48,560 steering committee and that is by design. One might think, oh, we need 113 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:52,200 citizens to do it, but the idea is that the elected, some elected leadership 114 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:56,240 needs to have uh, way in on it and buy into the 115 00:10:54,480 --> 00:11:01,320 process. Otherwise, they're not going to vote for it when they get to, um, 116 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:07,200 see it later in the year. Also, we have a planning and zoning commission and, 117 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:09,960 uh, members, two members of the planning and zoning commission are on there as 118 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:15,080 well as one resident, one business owner. Then 119 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:21,640 we also have stakeholders. We, uh, need to identify and interview stakeholders. 120 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:26,360 These are people primarily with a big stake, uh, like major property owners 121 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:31,560 obviously have a lot to, lot at stake with the land use plan and so forth. But 122 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:35,800 these are some others that we may as we go along, we may uh identify and talk 123 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:39,920 to. And the And the mayor and council have already given us 124 00:11:37,560 --> 00:11:44,320 a list of a few people to talk to, which we will. 125 00:11:41,680 --> 00:11:51,200 But, there may be others as we go along. Um next is uh various techniques. Um 126 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:55,840 we have a pretty good plan in place right now. Um we don't need to recreate 127 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:59,800 it from the ground up, but at the same time we can decide 128 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:04,840 other things that we might want to do to gain participation. I've mentioned the 129 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:09,200 um initial hearings in the steering committee and stakeholder interviews. 130 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:14,520 We also will have final public hearings, and then we can also 131 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:17,280 have something else if we want to. For example, 132 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:21,880 um if we feel like we need a questionnaire to ask the public for 133 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:26,240 input on specific things, we can do that. As you know, we've already been 134 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:30,760 doing that of some sort. The mayor, other council members have been 135 00:12:28,560 --> 00:12:35,560 um asking for uh opinions about new restaurants, 136 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:42,320 things like that. If you remember uh uh the late Mark Coyman, who uh did some 137 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:45,680 analysis of countywide surveying information. We have a lot of 138 00:12:43,839 --> 00:12:49,360 information, so I'm not so sure that we need to do 139 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:54,280 a questionnaire, but we can. And we'll rely on the committee to tell us what we 140 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:57,600 think uh the best approach is to community 141 00:12:55,520 --> 00:13:02,400 participation will be. Uh next is the um 142 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:07,280 meeting contents for meeting uh for meetings of the steering committee. 143 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:12,240 Uh I won't go into this, but this is a suggested breakdown for how we might 144 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:17,480 tackle the um the subject matter by going through and 145 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:23,400 talking about background and educating the group, and then talking about plans, 146 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:28,720 policies, and vision, and goals, then talking mainly about housing, land use, 147 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:34,320 community facilities, community work and then just review of the document itself. 148 00:13:31,680 --> 00:13:38,120 Then uh finally um this is going to be a little hard for 149 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:42,280 folks to see, but we've got population projections here, and I think 150 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:47,120 everybody realizes how fast we're growing here, which makes this effort 151 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:53,160 all the more important. Um by the year 2024, we will have a combination of 152 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:55,920 population employment that is something like 23,000 153 00:13:55,000 --> 00:14:01,480 people. Um about 18,000 of that will be 154 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:06,360 household population, and employment is projected at 4,366 155 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:10,200 in the year 2044. These and then the second table there, 156 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:13,560 table two, shows you the net increase, which is 157 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:18,120 substantial. I mean um over today's estimated population, the 158 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:25,640 city of Houston's going to add 12,000 people. We're a town of 159 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:29,280 6,600 or so now, and we will be um 160 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:34,320 well over um well, we'll be up to 23 uh let's see, 161 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:39,880 18,000. A total increase of 12,000. So, 162 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:43,760 with that said, uh we want to open it up to the um 163 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:48,440 public for any kind of questions that they might have. If they have thoughts, 164 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:52,640 um the city attorney will run this part. If there's anyone who'd like to speak, 165 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:55,200 we'd want to uh recognize them at this time. 166 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:59,000 Thank you, Mayor and Council. Thank you. If anyone wishes to address 167 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:03,400 the uh comprehensive plan, please raise your hand. I'll call you up. 168 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:06,960 All right, do y'all have any questions for Scott White or anyone? 169 00:15:05,839 --> 00:15:11,560 All right, then I'll close the public hearing, and that's the only item on our 170 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:15,040 public hearing agenda. Thank you, Jerry. 171 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:20,560 Thank you, Ben. Uh Ben, I have this for you if you need 172 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:24,200 it. That that last page. You're welcome. All right, uh we are going to I'm going 173 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:29,560 to call the order of the work session. Uh and I'm going to ask if there is a 174 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:29,560 motion for agenda approval. 175 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:35,480 I make a motion to approve the agenda. Thank you, Dr. Sterling. Uh second, 176 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:38,080 please. I'll second. 177 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:40,520 Thank you, Tina. All in favor, raise your hand. 178 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:48,080 All right, we're going to do reports by mayor, council, and staff. Uh I'm going 179 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:52,920 to go ahead and start this time. I just have uh three things to report from the 180 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:57,640 mayor's desk, if you will. Um this is just to inform and keep them 181 00:15:55,640 --> 00:16:01,080 keep the community informed as I as you know I like to do. 182 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:06,600 Um I want to let you know that I have a made an official letter 183 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:10,440 to GDOT uh requesting that they reduce the speed on 53 184 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:14,040 from um Jefferson 185 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:18,400 Street all the way to Crystal Lake, which is just about at the end of um 186 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:24,600 Twin Lakes. So, basically, this whole downtown um it it it is an official 187 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:29,720 letter now. It's a um I am asking for official in input from them. And again, 188 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:34,000 it's to reduce the speed down to 35 throughout the whole city. 189 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:38,760 Um the second thing I wanted to inform everybody, which is seems to be the 190 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:43,040 topic certainly on social media and certainly on my phone 191 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:48,480 I know Jennifer's phone and many of you other phones is Georgia Power. 192 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:54,400 Um I have reached out today um with the help of some other people, 193 00:16:51,839 --> 00:17:00,920 and I have spoken to the uh region Northeast Georgia regional executive. 194 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:05,360 He is coming to Hoschton on Tuesday with his um let me get you the right title 195 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:08,959 for that. Excuse me, I'm sorry. One second. 196 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:21,079 With his power delivery manager. Uh they are meeting uh, meeting myself 197 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:26,480 and Jennifer here uh, next week and we're going to talk about 198 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:28,520 the outages over the last 24 months in the city 199 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:35,920 which by all records is around 22 outages and 200 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:38,960 also mitigation going forward. So, um, I will of course update everybody 201 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:45,040 after that meeting. And thirdly, uh, Dr. Whites talked about 202 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:51,000 it. Uh, as you know, I do love surveys. It's very helpful for us to figure out 203 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:54,880 what you want and how to move forward. There is a survey out now. Um, if you 204 00:17:53,520 --> 00:18:00,880 recall about a year ago, the late Dr. Mark 205 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:05,640 Koeman Koiman came in here and he he gave us our survey results that he 206 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:10,440 did in the county. And part of that survey was, how are 207 00:18:08,360 --> 00:18:14,120 your elected officials doing? And the results 208 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:19,800 a year ago were not good. And I promised the city that I would 209 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:24,600 rerun that portion this year. So, I have put that survey together. It is out 210 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:28,000 there. The traffic's been low and I think it's because of the 211 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:32,000 holidays, but I'm asking you, um, 212 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:37,120 if you haven't, go look at the survey. It's on social media. If you can always 213 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:42,720 get it through me or through Jennifer or any of our team. Um, anyway, so, we I 214 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:47,600 will give those results in January of of how we're doing now versus 1 year ago. 215 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:50,920 That's all I have. So, I'm going to start over here with James. James, do 216 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:54,200 you have any updates? Um, 217 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:58,760 not really any. Been busy at the cemetery. 218 00:18:56,520 --> 00:19:01,560 What else do you want to That's a good thing and a bad thing. 219 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,960 Good thing and a bad thing. Yeah. 220 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:06,720 We're selling lots, so that's a good thing. 221 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:07,960 I picked out my place, by just so you know. 222 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:09,760 What's that? I picked out my place. 223 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:12,280 Oh, did you? Uh-huh. 224 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:14,560 Yeah, it's all marked up and everything now. 225 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:21,040 Scott, what you got? 226 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:25,440 Um first and foremost um we started we did the Jingle Mingle last 227 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:30,520 Friday. I want to thank everybody who participated. Uh special thanks She's 228 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:33,040 not here. Where's Tiffany? Special thanks to Tiffany 229 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:37,320 um for helping pull it off in the last 230 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:43,400 minute. Um we probably had about 300 people show 231 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:46,440 up. We were lucky enough to send seven car loads 232 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:52,680 between trucks and car loads of 233 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:58,320 toys, clothing, blankets, pajamas, you name it. I think we've got it up to 234 00:19:56,360 --> 00:20:02,680 Mill Springs, which is south of Lake Lure, North Carolina. Um 235 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:07,960 we did a fundraiser a little bit with the 358 236 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:13,240 Club over across the street, raised some money there. Um we bought some stuff 237 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:17,400 with it over at Got to Have It. I want to make sure I try to touch everybody 238 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:21,880 cuz touched everybody the other day, but um there wasn't many people here. It was 239 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:26,200 sponsored originally by Rock Hard. Um there were 23 240 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:28,840 businesses that participated. We also did at the same time as the Whistle 241 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:32,640 Market. Um like I said, there were about 300 242 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:36,480 people that showed up. Uh we had the we had the trolley. 243 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:39,520 Probably only thing that we got to look a little bit better if we use the 244 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:43,000 trolley in the future that comes around a little faster. A lot of people missed 245 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:46,600 out on it. Like I said, same time we had the Whistle 246 00:20:44,120 --> 00:20:52,800 Market, had about 20 vendors out there for that. Um various food trucks up to 247 00:20:50,120 --> 00:20:56,200 selling clothing and pottery. Um 248 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:59,680 we're going to send up again on the about the 19th or the 20th. I think some 249 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:05,200 of my neighbors are going back up. They're going up this time to Swannanoa. 250 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:09,920 So, if people still have some, I've been contacted on Facebook from people 251 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:13,280 wanting to bring some more donations up. I know that Caddo has trying to get a 252 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:18,040 hold of some air air pods that 253 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:22,080 that would be less expensive so that we can buy some more of those to send up 254 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:27,200 because they need things for really between kids 15 and 12. The problem the 255 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:33,320 biggest problem is is that we don't need like $100 air pods because there's not 256 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:38,840 like one we probably need for 30 to 50 kids. There are last time we sent up for 257 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:43,440 like 500 children whereas what that was in the need for it. I think 258 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:47,400 they did it last night. I do not have pictures but pretty sure last night they 259 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:52,800 had like a a Christmas for the kids up in Mill Springs. Um it was a blessing 260 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:57,280 really honestly. Uh a little too many tears. The mayor was crying. My 261 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:59,720 neighbors were crying. Uh it's not right. You all don't need to make me 262 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:04,040 cry. Um but we are lucky enough to do it. I 263 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:09,480 can't say enough about the city. I hope we continue in the future that Jingle 264 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:12,080 Mingle becomes our community helping others. 265 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:14,760 Whether it's internally in Jackson County or externally like it was this 266 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:17,280 time. Um 267 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:21,840 Christmas is a time of giving. We're working on hopefully 268 00:22:20,120 --> 00:22:25,480 getting our and I can make this announcement maybe 269 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:28,440 Fox News will hear this. We're hoping that 270 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:33,280 we had the mayor um actually 271 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:36,520 was able to get a little video a little interview. Um they're asking for 272 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:40,240 Christmas light stuff. We lit our Christmas tree that night. I know next 273 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:43,760 year we are moving it up. The days going to move up. We're scheduling events much 274 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:48,920 earlier. Um kind of got that hopefully we'll have 275 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:54,000 that out by the end of January that the whole event list for the whole year. Um 276 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:59,680 so that's the first step. Second thing that we're all going to do is um 277 00:22:58,120 --> 00:23:02,800 Ben I'll give you a copy of this before you leave. 278 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:08,120 We we going to start 2025 January 16th 279 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:13,360 which is a Thursday. Mr. Clark, I hope you show up as a 280 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:17,440 business owner in town. Um be 2025 Wharton Business Networking. The first 281 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:22,720 time, I know in the past they've had a little coffee and conversations, but we, 282 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:28,080 the mayor and myself, will be out there. It starts at 7:30 in the morning. It is 283 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:32,920 for business people. Um for as many business owners as we can. 284 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:38,320 I'm working with Jen to get an email out to all the businesses in town. 285 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:43,000 Um we're calling the first one Excuse my little bit of words here, the 286 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:47,040 BS experience. To future growth. And BS doesn't stand 287 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:49,760 for what you all think it does, but it does stand for the ability to come in 288 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:53,040 here um for lack of a better word, a 289 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:56,960 little bit to us, give us a little bit of feedback from what we haven't done 290 00:23:54,680 --> 00:24:00,640 right in the past. Some of the stuff we may be able to fix. 291 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:03,480 Maybe we can learn from some of the stuff. 292 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:06,120 I won't have any say in it. I wasn't here 293 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:08,920 10 years ago, so when somebody tells me somebody didn't get an email back 10 294 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:13,640 years ago, I'll apologize and move on. So, um we 295 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:17,640 have an agenda. We're hoping all the businesses can get involved. We would 296 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:21,680 want Wharton to feel like, you know, keep a small little piece of heaven is 297 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:24,400 our mayor has been talking around saying. 298 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:28,760 And get our businesses involved very much so. Um we need to get to support 299 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:32,560 the small businesses as the growth keeps on coming here. 300 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:37,080 So, that will be on the 16th 7:30 in the morning. It will be in here. 301 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:41,160 Um so, hopefully Ben, you can get that out in the newspaper for us, too. 302 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:45,360 Um for the local businesses. And the businesses uh you've spoken to 303 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:48,720 have been extremely responsive to this idea, correct? 304 00:24:46,360 --> 00:24:52,800 Oh, 100%. Um actually we have a meeting tomorrow one 305 00:24:50,120 --> 00:24:55,720 business you and I myself. Um I It was amazing to see how many 306 00:24:54,040 --> 00:25:02,280 businesses came and helped out with the jingle mingle. 307 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:05,960 I just it was amazing to see. So, I think they're all excited. I think 308 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:09,680 we're getting really now we've got we'll see later on in the agenda there's two 309 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:14,880 business owners. Um one sitting here, one one that's been 310 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:19,040 the longest business owner in Houston. We'll be uh trying to you know we're 311 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:22,480 going to look at them as BM DDA members. I know there's a third one that we're 312 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:26,920 going to meet tomorrow yourself and I that would like to be on the DDA also. 313 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:29,040 Um so it's good thing. 314 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,120 So. Thank you, sir. 315 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:34,000 No problem. Thank you, Sterling. 316 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:39,840 Okay. Good evening. Uh I don't have a report, but I am still 317 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:44,560 uh promoting the mayor's reading program. 318 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:50,600 Uh I've been to uh West Jackson Elementary and I've done 319 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:56,440 many lessons on local government and if you look in the back, uh you can see uh 320 00:25:53,840 --> 00:26:02,960 the end product. Uh I mean I talked to the kids about uh local government. I 321 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:06,600 went a little beyond and talked about state government, but kept it small 322 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:11,680 because I'm talking to kindergarten kids. But uh 323 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:17,920 we talked about the mayor what the mayor does. Is the mayor uh guy or is the 324 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:23,080 mayor uh girl and I got all kind of answers, but what we came up with that 325 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:28,040 mayor can be a male or female. And uh 326 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:33,320 so uh they uh created their puppets and I have two more classes. 327 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:40,480 Uh I've emailed uh uh one of our officers uh 328 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:44,480 is Officer Emerson. Yes, I emailed him. And he's he said he'll be delighted to 329 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:49,400 go over uh and I'm going to email some other 330 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:55,120 council members and uh their spouses. Anyone who would like 331 00:26:52,080 --> 00:27:01,960 to go over and read to the kids, they really are excited about us coming. And 332 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:06,680 knowing that uh the mayor running the city is not just 333 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:10,520 the mayor, that she has many helpers in doing that. 334 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:16,000 So, if anybody would like to volunteer to read, uh just uh let me know. Come 335 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:19,640 here to City Hall and just leave your name and number and I'll get in contact 336 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:24,840 with you. Thank you. 337 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:28,880 I did hear uh a rumor that there's somebody in the 338 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:32,600 audience that loves to read to children. So, hopefully 339 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:41,280 James, do you want to hear from Mr. Yeah, that's who I'm talking about. 340 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:44,800 Yeah, yeah, they do. J.D. Brown, everybody. Just wanted to 341 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:47,200 let you know. Tina? 342 00:27:47,360 --> 00:27:53,760 Um just a quick rundown, I guess. There hasn't been a lot of activity, but um 343 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:56,920 the Oak Street Park is in the budget for next year, so I need to get that RFP out 344 00:27:55,920 --> 00:28:01,920 there. Um I have a funny feeling it'll probably 345 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:04,880 be a two-phase project. Um but that's on me to get the RFP out 346 00:28:03,360 --> 00:28:10,880 there with my dreams and see how far we can go with it 347 00:28:07,360 --> 00:28:17,600 in 2025. Um the first reports on the Mulberry house um came back and so we've 348 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:22,920 got to move forward on RFPs to get that demolished. That opens up a space in the 349 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:28,280 Mulberry Park project that I have some ideas for that will um 350 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:33,320 be added to that project, but that again is just future thinking and planning. 351 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:35,640 Um we voted to accept the matching grant. 352 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:38,720 So, I don't know when that'll be disbursed or when actual movement will 353 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:42,160 take place on the park, but 354 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:45,360 we're making progress. It's not entirely visible right now, but we're making 355 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:48,440 progress. Thank you, Tina. 356 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:52,200 David? you. Mayor, thank you. Um 357 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:55,720 short and sweet, we got three projects I've I've been working on the last since 358 00:28:54,200 --> 00:29:00,200 the last meeting. Uh one of them was with the public works director, Jamie 359 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:04,480 Wheeler. We've been driving the city looking at streets, uh 360 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:08,280 which ones we want to repair. We have an LMIG coming up very shortly, so we're 361 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:12,000 going around seeing the best way to spend that money and what we're going to 362 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:18,720 do, and we think we have a proposal for the city. Uh also working with Jerry 363 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:22,440 Hood um on city wells for the future. Looking at positioning, where we want to 364 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:26,640 go, how much water we can get, uh because it is the least expensive kind 365 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:31,280 of water we can possibly get, so we're probably going to go out and tour 366 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:36,520 tour some places um next week and the week after and have 367 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:39,280 something for the city by early next year. 368 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:44,600 And then finally, as you well know, we did a GMA capital survey. 369 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:48,720 Um so we'll be turning that in to to the GMA very soon. 370 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:51,640 Other than that, thank you. 371 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:55,120 Jennifer, before I go to you, I just want to make one more comment that I 372 00:29:53,040 --> 00:30:00,840 forgot to mention. Um just wanted everybody to know that Barrow County um 373 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:05,320 at their last council meeting last meeting, they also approved our 374 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:09,120 water agreement. So, that's been signed by both parties now. Just wanted to 375 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:12,840 close the loop on that. Jennifer. 376 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:16,560 Thank you, mayor. So, uh we have been um just like as Tina 377 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:19,960 said, we have uh there's a lot of things going behind the scenes that we are 378 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:23,800 working on that we are looking forward to um 379 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:29,680 presenting to each and every one of you in 2025. A few things that I have that 380 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:35,200 we have accomplished this uh month is the city uh mayor and council uh 381 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:41,240 approved, you know, purchasing um the land for the future city hall and police 382 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:45,520 complex that's on Peachtree Road. We um have signage that we have has been 383 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:49,600 delivered today. So we are in hopes that you will see 384 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:51,840 that signage on the property. I'm not sure if they're going to be able to do 385 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:55,320 it tomorrow because they have training, but we will have it out next week. 386 00:30:54,520 --> 00:31:00,000 Um so that y'all can see exactly where our 387 00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:04,760 property that was purchased will be. Mayor and staff have been working on the 388 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:10,520 golf cart ordinance and we should have that to you all very soon. 389 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:15,560 Mayor Martin and myself has met with Matt Ruppel. Matt is 390 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:20,680 Mr. Ruppel is opening the Pasta Master next door and he is also working for the 391 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:25,720 future development of the garden which is at 392 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:29,640 the 29 West Broad Street facility. So we're excited to work with Mr. Ruppel on 393 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:34,520 those two. And then also 394 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:38,680 Mayor Martin Councilmember Dave Brown and myself met 395 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:42,560 with amongst some of our other staff members 396 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:48,680 met with the MPO. We are continuing to work on 397 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:52,640 the master traffic plan for the city of Hutchison. So we are excited about that 398 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:57,960 and it was approved and by the state. So we are 399 00:31:55,880 --> 00:32:03,000 excited to work with them closely with them to get that moving. 400 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:09,920 We are continuing to well I had this in my report but I believe that the mayor 401 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:15,280 and Councilmember Scott Quarter has worked on the logo for the South Tower 402 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:20,920 at Joe Pena and um and I believe that they have submitted a 403 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:24,480 final a final logo. So lots going on. 404 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:29,480 Yes, we're waiting on a couple more of the logistics to go with that, but we 405 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:33,520 are excited that things are moving. A lot of our capital improvement 406 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:37,960 infrastructure is moving. That's things that y'all don't normally you wouldn't 407 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:41,480 see, but it is moving and we're we're excited about the 408 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:44,040 the the improvements that are happening in the city. 409 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:54,840 Also, if you look online um in our in the packets, I try to update everybody 410 00:32:53,200 --> 00:33:02,120 on what the ongoing projects are for 2024 and 2025. So, you can look there. 411 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:05,480 Um we have three that are completed. The water booster pump, I did put completed, 412 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:09,120 but we there's a couple of little things that we're tweaking on that. And so, 413 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:12,560 we're hoping I talked to our engineer today, so we're hoping that we can get 414 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:15,800 those couple things tweak tweaked so that we can get our 415 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:21,440 um tank uh across from the fire department um active. And then our Broad 416 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:27,160 Street paving, which is right in front of our Mulberry Park, is 100% completed. 417 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:30,960 And if you've noticed um there is parallel parking now. 418 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:34,680 Uh so, uh there you know, there's always a need for parking in downtown. So, we 419 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:38,800 were we were thankful that we were able to 420 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:45,040 uh implement that as well. And then um 421 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:50,400 the waterline upgrade phase 1B is 100% completed, and it was under budget. We 422 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:57,120 love under budget projects. And so, that is 100% done, and we will be working on 423 00:33:53,280 --> 00:34:03,360 phase two uh next year. So, uh you'll see that come back uh in front of you uh 424 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:07,360 after we um make a complete bid. Uh also, there's public works department 425 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:14,360 monthly meeting uh our monthly reporting here. There's the building department. 426 00:34:10,879 --> 00:34:20,000 And uh the police department, and uh the city planner's uh report. And so, uh we 427 00:34:17,919 --> 00:34:24,600 do uh encourage you to look at those and see what each department is is doing and 428 00:34:22,639 --> 00:34:28,760 how busy we truly are in the city of Houston. 429 00:34:26,240 --> 00:34:28,760 Thank you, Mayor. 430 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:38,600 Thank you, everyone. It certainly is a busy town and a great place to be. 431 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:43,879 Okay. Um let's go ahead and go to item number 432 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:48,040 one, old business. This is resolution 2024-54. 433 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:51,919 I'd like to call on uh Dr. Weiss for this, please. 434 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:59,480 Thank you, Mayor. This is a loose end from a prior agenda. Uh we had several 435 00:34:56,320 --> 00:35:04,240 lift station properties that are being dedicated to the city. Uh we've accepted 436 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:12,120 several of them, but there was one that we had a an issue with with regard to um 437 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:17,080 proper legal description and and uh showing the lot in the public records 438 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:20,520 that had not been done. So, we had to um get a 439 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:25,960 an amendment to Cresswind phase four final plat to show that that lot, and 440 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:30,280 now that's been done. And the applicant has given us the 441 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:35,200 uh a deed, although it's not the right kind of deed. The um city attorney has 442 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:39,880 told us that we have to have a a a warranty deed rather than a limited 443 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:45,320 warranty deed. Uh but in any event, the there's a resolution for your approval 444 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:51,600 that will accept uh 0.235 acres of land, which is 445 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:55,880 improved with a sewage lift station, and we recommend that you approve that 446 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:59,720 resolution in your voting session next um whenever 447 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,520 that's coming up. Tuesday. 448 00:35:59,920 --> 00:36:07,760 Okay, Tuesday. And then uh we'll make sure that that 449 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:12,720 uh the the uh deed will be in the right form for acceptance and recording. So, 450 00:36:10,720 --> 00:36:18,240 that's the recommendation for approval. I did talk to Jen about this today. Um 451 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:22,600 she's been working with them, and she's very confident that we'll have it before 452 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:26,040 voting on Tuesday, or they are, right? Um yes, we won't vote without it. 453 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:28,920 Yeah, okay. Any questions? 454 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:34,680 I have a question, Mayor. If I may. 455 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:37,880 Yeah, sure. When do 456 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:42,840 At what point does the city take over the maintenance for these lift stations? 457 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:46,680 Is it when we get the land or is it before that? 458 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:51,120 It's well before that. It's when they when they propose the final plat. When 459 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:55,560 when we approve the final plat, they dedicate the roads and they the water 460 00:36:53,720 --> 00:37:01,440 lines and sewer lines and if there's a lift station a lift station at that time 461 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:06,280 that doesn't mean that they dedicate the land underneath the lift station, but 462 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:10,880 the physical plant of it it's dedicated once the final plat is approved. 463 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,880 Okay, thank you. 464 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:17,120 If they have a hiccup in getting us the right deed, I'm comfortable if y'all are 465 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:19,880 with passing the resolution and Jerry I'll make sure the deed's in the correct 466 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:22,680 format. They've given us the correct format in the past. I There just must 467 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:26,840 have been a little trip up in the lawyer's office or something, so 468 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:29,840 uh I'm fine with that if y'all are. It's up to y'all. 469 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,840 Okay. 470 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:36,920 Is Is this the same lift station that there was questions about as far as the 471 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:41,840 fee being paid by the developer? 472 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:45,520 When when it came online and when we accepted it. 473 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:49,240 That I don't know. Uh I can't remember which which one is which. All I can say 474 00:37:47,720 --> 00:37:53,200 is that for you know, the um 475 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:57,440 the lift station maintenance fee that was passed in I think it was April or 476 00:37:55,360 --> 00:38:03,680 May of 2023 for all of those that were 477 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:08,600 dedicated after that date, we got um we got the maintenance fee and if if we 478 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:12,040 didn't get it, then it's because we weren't able to get it from them. 479 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:22,480 What's the fee on the maintenance? It's based on the horsepower of the uh 480 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:28,360 of the um engine the motor in the pump station. 481 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:28,360 Uh it ranges, I think, from $150,000 482 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:34,520 Thank you. You're welcome. 483 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,160 Any other questions on this? 484 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:44,640 Okay. Uh we'll go to new business. Uh this 485 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:51,600 authorizes the city to initiate a rezoning request C-24-04 486 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:55,320 uh for 11.25 acres of property. Uh Dr. Weiss, would 487 00:38:54,040 --> 00:39:00,400 you like to speak to this as well? Yes, thank you, Mayor. Uh 488 00:38:57,240 --> 00:39:04,520 uh staff recommendation is that you go ahead and authorize us to 489 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:08,280 initiate the rezoning of the property that the city just bought. It's about 490 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:12,440 11.25 acres. City Manager outlined the purpose of 491 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:16,720 that is for uh among other things, for uh 492 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:22,120 police complex and a new city hall complex. And the property is, I think, 493 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:27,320 it's zoned R1 right now. It's zoned for residential. Um 494 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:32,640 city uses can go in any zoning district, and so it's not absolutely essential 495 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:36,880 that we rezone it, but uh just like when we did the Mulberry property and we 496 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:40,480 wanted to put a parking deck on that, we rezone that to 497 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:44,800 highway commercial, because that's where the park a parking deck should uh should 498 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:48,280 be. And so, this is going to be an institutional piece 499 00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:54,600 of property, by and large, so we're recommending that you initiate the 500 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:59,040 rezoning to from R1 to institutional. And if you vote on Tuesday night to do 501 00:39:56,480 --> 00:40:02,800 that, then it will go uh we'll prepare the application. 502 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:08,040 Uh the legal ad this would it's not approving the rezoning, that's merely 503 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:11,520 initiate authorizing the initiation of it, so we go through the process of 504 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:16,720 public hearings uh first to the Planning Commission, 505 00:40:13,240 --> 00:40:20,320 then to the City Council. So, it's not a it's not a done deal. You're just saying 506 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:24,280 let's start the process. And uh we think it's a 507 00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:29,200 uh as good a time as any to go ahead and get started on that. It relates to the 508 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:32,120 second item which I'll hold off talking about till we get there. 509 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:35,120 Okay. Thank you. Council, any questions? 510 00:40:37,720 --> 00:40:44,240 All right. Uh so we will go to new business item number two. Uh this is to 511 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:48,880 authorize the city to initiate rezoning request Z -24-05. 512 00:40:47,240 --> 00:40:54,240 Uh go ahead, Dr. White, please. Thank you, uh Mayor and Council. Um 513 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:59,480 this property uh you this project, The Enclave, was approved 514 00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:04,720 by the City Council in 2021. Most of you, I think, or all of you were not 515 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:09,200 on the uh maybe James was here, I think. James was, but everybody else didn't, so 516 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:14,440 you may not know all that much about the project, and that's why I wrote a uh 517 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:18,920 five-page memo for you to have the background information so that in case 518 00:41:17,240 --> 00:41:23,880 you had a lot of questions about that project, um that we could maybe answer 519 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:29,000 them and speed up the the uh deliberations tonight. Uh but basically, 520 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:33,160 the recommendation is that you authorize the city to initiate 521 00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:38,280 a rezoning request which would change conditions of zoning approval on the 522 00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:41,800 Enclave project. And the million-dollar question really is, 523 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:45,920 well, why don't you just have the property owner do this? Why does the 524 00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:50,240 city need to do that? And we we don't have to do it, but this property is 525 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:54,600 abutting the property that we just talked about 526 00:41:52,120 --> 00:42:01,400 where the city wants to put a city hall and a police complex with uh 527 00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:07,200 parking for downtown and help create uh a new basically a new downtown with a 528 00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:11,800 main a main street style uh downtown. It's very, in my opinion, it's very 529 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:18,360 exciting that we have this opportunity. I had worked with um Dr. Kumar and his 530 00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:23,480 group uh when he asked for my advice and I gave him a lot of advice and he took 531 00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:27,080 all all of my advice when he put together 532 00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:32,280 the plan and that the council uh adopted it. For his project, it's 225 units and 533 00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:37,240 you may if you read the memo or if you looked at 534 00:42:34,240 --> 00:42:41,520 that or maybe remember the discussion is that initially it was going to be 535 00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:46,720 condominiums. Uh but they ran into trouble with financing that and so uh 536 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:53,960 council approved a modification of conditions to make those apartments. So, 537 00:42:51,240 --> 00:42:59,520 to make a long story short, the the idea here is that and and the council, the 538 00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:05,160 mayor, and other council members in addition to staff were in 539 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:09,280 discussion with Dr. Kumar and his group about coordinating these two projects. 540 00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:13,960 And uh with there's there's a lot of power in 541 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:18,200 looking at these two projects as one or at least in 542 00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:22,480 coordination with one another. And ultimately, I think one of our 543 00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:28,000 objectives is to get to the point where we adopt prepare and adopt a 544 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:32,160 development agreement to basically jointly 545 00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:36,640 simultaneously develop both of these tracks and that that in itself comes 546 00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:42,840 with some other issues we can talk about, but uh basically tonight we want 547 00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:46,040 you uh we or we want you on Tuesday to authorize the initiation of the request 548 00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:49,960 and uh I didn't answer my question, which was 549 00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:55,600 why should the city do this rather than the um the applicant. And that is the 550 00:43:53,400 --> 00:44:00,640 with a big project like this, first of all, they're not trying 551 00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:03,560 to get more density or more units or anything. Basically, what they're trying 552 00:44:02,240 --> 00:44:08,520 to do is flip the land uses and we've got on 553 00:44:05,720 --> 00:44:12,720 there on the screen there their approved master plan and it shows 554 00:44:10,720 --> 00:44:17,560 that all the commercial is up there on Industrial Avenue. 555 00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:22,120 And the apartment buildings are to south. And basically 556 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:26,960 as soon as Dr. Kumar and his group realized that the city was going to buy 557 00:44:24,240 --> 00:44:32,440 this property the property to the south they saw the opportunity to 558 00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:37,960 really put two and two together and create a critical mass that could be a 559 00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:43,640 downtown Main Street um area with commercial buildings and so 560 00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:48,320 he Dr. Kumar said, "Well, why why don't we flip the 561 00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:52,600 um apartment units, put them closer to Industrial, and move the 562 00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:56,760 uh some of the commercial, not the part that's the little block over to the 563 00:44:54,400 --> 00:45:01,640 northeast. That's going to stay exactly like it is, but let me go ahead and 564 00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:06,040 switch, if you will, to to the the other um the other piece. And what they what 565 00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:11,520 the idea was that they'd move the apartment buildings up closer to 566 00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:15,520 Industrial Avenue and drop the commercial 567 00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:21,360 most most of the commercial part of it to the south. And then we would that 568 00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:24,000 would be adjacent to the city property and then 569 00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:28,600 um I don't want to get too long-winded 570 00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:34,280 here, but suffice it to say that this this plan the um Kumar's group uh 571 00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:38,560 actually did some land planning for us. They took the 572 00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:42,560 concept plan that I had put together on how I thought it ought to lay out, and 573 00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:46,480 they put not only did they put it together, but then they put they added 574 00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:50,600 to it with a parking lot. They showed how the parking lot could be developed. 575 00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:56,640 And so um this is uh we want you to initiate this 576 00:45:53,600 --> 00:46:01,560 uh the the Kumar project because um again, I haven't answered the 577 00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:06,560 question I posed, but um the the reason for this is that 578 00:46:03,240 --> 00:46:09,440 we want to express to the public that we are 579 00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:14,400 in a cooperative mode with this developer that they're right beside this 580 00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:20,120 property and that we have mutual interest by working together we can save 581 00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:25,240 money uh and we can get our project completed faster. We want to move fast 582 00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:29,240 on our project. We know the city manager will tell you that we need this 583 00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:33,560 uh we've already outgrown city hall and so we we would like to see 584 00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:38,800 this whole thing happening as soon as possible and now we have I'm excited to 585 00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:42,720 say that we have an avenue that we would not be able to 586 00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:47,000 proceed with on our own. I don't think that we would have the initiative and 587 00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:51,520 the alacrity to move ahead with some of the stuff but if we have a 588 00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:55,240 another developer who's experienced in doing this and 589 00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:59,920 has a good idea and will work with us then um 590 00:46:56,840 --> 00:47:04,200 I think we have a real win-win situation and that's why 591 00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:10,280 um we want to express to the public that this is a this is a a good project to 592 00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:14,920 work with them with. It doesn't mean by initiating the request that we're 593 00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:19,680 obligated to approve it. You still go through the process. So it's not an 594 00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:23,360 approval um but it is um it it's going to take some of the heat 595 00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:28,120 off of the owners of that property and 596 00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:33,440 from having to defend it as for example we don't want to re-litigate 597 00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:37,840 the issue of whether 225 apartments are okay on that site. And if the applicant 598 00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:41,080 does that they're going to be suspicious of what their motives are. They're going 599 00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:45,640 to think they're trying to change density and units and everything and 600 00:47:43,720 --> 00:47:51,480 and so I it I would agree at least that it's better 601 00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:55,800 for us to initiate that and we'll do it at the same time with the cities if you 602 00:47:53,760 --> 00:48:00,400 if the council approves it. Um so I think that that's really 603 00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:06,400 everything that I needed to say. Um, maybe one other point. Um, we do think 604 00:48:03,720 --> 00:48:12,160 that we want to recommend a development agreement on the part of 605 00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:16,920 this developer and the city. And we have started some discussions with the group 606 00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:21,280 and by the way, Dr. Kumar and his team, Pablo and Joe from uh, planners and 607 00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:25,920 environmental um, consultants are are here tonight. I 608 00:48:24,240 --> 00:48:29,720 don't think we need to call on them, but at the 609 00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:33,920 council's leisure or discretion, you could call on them to um, 610 00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:39,960 answer questions about it. But we ultimately want to get to um, I think to 611 00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:44,640 a development agreement and uh, there is the opportunity to 612 00:48:41,720 --> 00:48:50,240 square off this boundary. There's an odd uh, diagonal boundary between the two 613 00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:55,720 properties and it would be very much advantageous to both if we could square 614 00:48:53,160 --> 00:49:01,520 that off. So, we've been talking about a a 1 square foot to 1 square foot trade 615 00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:05,760 of area between the two so that it would be if we're trading 616 00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:10,800 property the same amount, then perhaps that's not takes away some of the issue 617 00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:15,080 and um, so we're looking at that and the the the group has been everything I've 618 00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:19,840 asked them to do, they've funded it. They funded the 619 00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:24,200 the master plan putting the this concept onto paper 620 00:49:22,240 --> 00:49:28,040 drawing out the parking lot and then when I asked them about the the boundary 621 00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:33,480 line adjustment between the two, they've already done that also. So, I feel like 622 00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:37,200 we've got momentum and um, we've got a real good thing to 623 00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:42,360 pursue here and I'm really excited about it. If the council will proceed with it, 624 00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:46,760 we'll um, initiate the zoning and go from there and then we'll work on a 625 00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:50,920 development agreement. Um, I do know that the city manager has shared with 626 00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:56,600 the city attorney the idea that we want to do a development agreement and he has 627 00:49:53,800 --> 00:50:01,080 posed uh, a couple of procedural things that we didn't think about that are not 628 00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:07,360 insurmountable, but they may require us to do things like um an appraisal, for 629 00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:12,040 example, um on the property before we do anything and um 630 00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:17,160 the assumption also is that we will have the same 631 00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:21,640 uh engineering team for both projects and the same development team. 632 00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:26,200 Uh and in order to do that, I understand from the city attorney that we have to 633 00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:29,320 uh we may have to still go through a competitive bidding process. We can't 634 00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:34,120 just decide to award something. It's got to 635 00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:38,600 go through the proper procedures. And so we will do that and the expectation 636 00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:43,040 would be that that that group the group that 637 00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:46,920 Kumar's group wants it will will be the most cost-effective because they're 638 00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:50,800 doing this other project and they'll be able to save we we estimate they 639 00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:55,480 estimate uh savings by working together of 200 to 640 00:50:53,840 --> 00:51:00,080 250,000 dollars for both groups. That's split 641 00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:04,320 between two property owners. So anyway, enough said. I've more detail than you 642 00:51:02,240 --> 00:51:08,840 probably need. If you want to know more about the project, it's listed uh 643 00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:13,400 described in the memo, but I'll be ans- able to answer questions if you have any 644 00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:13,400 about it. 645 00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:22,280 Council? Just for clarity 646 00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:25,840 which you covered this, so I admit that I'm asking something that I think you've 647 00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:30,360 answered, but I wanted to be sure. Um 648 00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:31,840 no increase in the number of units. That's correct. 649 00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:34,520 Still 225. Correct. 650 00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:38,560 Still class A apartments. That's right. 651 00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:41,640 The total height of 75 feet and five floors has already been approved. That's 652 00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:45,640 not an increase. That's correct. 653 00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:49,520 And so the only change it just says a change to conditions. 654 00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:52,200 Um and I apologize I didn't get to read your whole report 655 00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:56,400 like I normally do. The only condition is literally the 656 00:51:54,200 --> 00:52:00,280 layout. That's the only thing that's changing. 657 00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:04,600 Yes. Now, as we go into it a little bit more, by the time you get to this, uh 658 00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:11,520 there may be a little bit of other refinement to it. Like, for example, um 659 00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:15,680 the you're right that the only major change to it is flipping the land uses, 660 00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:19,440 but also it means something a little different 661 00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:24,480 now for Industrial Boulevard, for example. When that was going to be a 662 00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:30,800 commercial corridor, it probably needed more um improvement than it it would we 663 00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:35,920 put some improvement requirements on it. And now with it being um 664 00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:40,240 more of a residential corridor, it may be that we revisit some of the 665 00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:44,240 conditions. There are There are some tweaks that we've talked about with 666 00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:48,040 conditions, but they're not um they're not of substantial public 667 00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:52,480 interest, if I can put it that way. I don't think we'll we'll 668 00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:57,360 we'll make sure that you realize any kind of changes that we that are 669 00:52:54,640 --> 00:53:01,360 proposed to the conditions. There are some others besides just flipping it, 670 00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:05,880 but uh but they're not uh there shouldn't be anything that's um 671 00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:10,480 objectionable, in my opinion. I know 53 is a state road, but are there 672 00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:14,200 going to be deceleration lanes or light there 673 00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:16,960 that we know of? At 53 and um 674 00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:19,480 Industrial. Industrial? 675 00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:25,680 Huh. I remember what the state study, if you 676 00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:30,640 um we had a presentation at the planning commission about that about what the 677 00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:37,240 state recommended. And oddly enough, they recommended in their study 678 00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:40,640 the 53 and 60 corridor studies, um 679 00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:47,200 they recommended that that road, that Town Center Parkway, be rerouted to come 680 00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:52,920 down a little bit to to intersect with industrial, which I think is totally 681 00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:57,160 That was just a plain sorry but a bad a bad idea. I don't think it's going to 682 00:53:54,440 --> 00:54:00,840 happen. It would take it would take a million dollar probably piece of 683 00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:05,920 property out of play from development all together. So 684 00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:10,280 I think there'll be something there. Um I think it was calling for a traffic 685 00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:16,120 signal ultimately at that intersection, but that was as re-aligned. And now with 686 00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:18,320 that if that's not aligned uh 687 00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:23,960 I don't know. Luckily we have a transportation plan on its way that we 688 00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:28,160 can begin to address some more of that and give our get our own opinion as to 689 00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:31,600 what we think we want at that intersection. 690 00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:36,440 So that doesn't need to be in the conditions. 691 00:54:33,720 --> 00:54:40,800 No, I I don't think it does. Uh we didn't address it. Uh we didn't call for 692 00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:44,240 a traffic signal. I think we called for improvements. 693 00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:48,280 Uh there I'd have to look at exactly what the conditions were, but we had 694 00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:51,800 16 conditions. Yeah, 16. 695 00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:55,000 So that's what it was be that's that's remaining the same right now. We just 696 00:54:53,160 --> 00:55:01,200 don't have them listed yet, right? Yeah, the conditions will remain more or 697 00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:06,640 less the same. There are there may be four of them that have uh that may have 698 00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:11,240 a uh some slight changes to it that the the applicant wants. 699 00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:15,600 Uh but mainly the main one is that it requires the site plan to be in 700 00:55:13,240 --> 00:55:20,560 substantial accordance with what was approved. And my determination as zoning 701 00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:23,960 administrator was you know, even if you're not changing 702 00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:29,120 the land use, but you're flipping the way they are laid out on the plan that 703 00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:34,280 that that's a substantial change. And so I was un- unwilling to say, you know, 704 00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:38,560 we'll just let you flip your site plan over. That needs to come back and be 705 00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:41,560 modified. So that's what one of the main reasons why 706 00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:46,040 why we would be doing it. Dr. Weiss also says 60,000 square feet, 707 00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:49,600 roughly, um commercial non-residential. That's 708 00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:52,120 the same number that we were That's the same number that it will be. 709 00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:56,320 Correct. That's good. 710 00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:56,320 It's really good. 711 00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:04,600 Jerry, does do the plans in anytime show what White Street's going to do? Can 712 00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:07,400 White Street come all the way up to uh Peachtree Road? 713 00:56:07,720 --> 00:56:13,920 Uh well, no, we weren't going to extend 714 00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:18,320 White Street as a road. Although, but but the plan here, if you look at what 715 00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:23,920 we have, if you'll scoop that up just a little bit, the um we are proposing, in 716 00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:28,880 essence, I'm not calling it a a public street or even a street, but we would we 717 00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:34,520 would develop part of the agreement would be that we would develop our part 718 00:56:32,240 --> 00:56:39,040 of that road, if I can call it a road or a major driveway, and that would also 719 00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:44,960 provide access to the Enclave development, and it would if if they're 720 00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:50,160 able to start from our end and access through our property to develop theirs, 721 00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:54,960 then that has certain major advantages. So, there would be a connecting way to 722 00:56:52,880 --> 00:57:00,520 get through there, but where White Street is, we want that to be our 723 00:56:57,320 --> 00:57:05,280 multi-use path or our life path, as Jennifer Harrison likes to call them. 724 00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:10,400 Uh so, we're you know, we've got the opportunity to 725 00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:15,640 extend the path that we have now through our property, we build that, and 726 00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:19,880 then Kumar Kumar's Enclave development with conditions of approval will have to 727 00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:24,080 build the rest of it, and then we connect to White Street, and then we 728 00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:29,000 have some decisions we can make in the comp plan about what do we want for 729 00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:32,320 White Street? Should it be a one-way street, or um 730 00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:35,520 do we want to put a uh 731 00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:40,280 a bi- a bike lane or multi-use path on it? We've been talking about how we cut 732 00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:45,400 over through our well site on White Street, and then that gets us to the 733 00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:50,880 park, okay, to the Mulberry property that we own. So, it's very exciting to 734 00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:57,680 think that we've got a an ability to go all the way from Cresswind and Publix in 735 00:57:53,960 --> 00:58:02,280 Twin Lakes PUD, cross Peachtree, come through the subdivision there, and come 736 00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:06,280 through this property, come through Kumar's property, and come to the 737 00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:11,160 downtown, come to the new park that we're going to build, and it's just it 738 00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:14,360 really ties it all together all at one. And we don't have to wait for one to 739 00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:19,640 happen over the other because we're going to choreograph the development in 740 00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:23,520 a way to where it happens more or less not all of the Kumar development, but 741 00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:29,440 all and not all of ours, but at least the fundamental parts of what we need 742 00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:31,680 will will go in place at the same time. So, has the 743 00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:34,880 city or the developer done a traffic study on any of this? 744 00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:38,000 No. Not required or 745 00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:42,920 I mean No, we don't we don't require turning loose what, 500 cars? 746 00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:46,720 Um, well, let's see. 747 00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:51,040 I'm not sure what the trip generation ultimately is on both of them. It's It's 748 00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:55,680 a lot of traffic, but we're also going to distribute it a lot of ways. It's 749 00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:59,640 going to go out 53, it's going to go out Industrial, a little bit of it will go 750 00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:05,080 out on White Street, and some will go out on Peachtree Street. Uh, 751 00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:09,480 so, it'll get distributed. And if you um, Jan, if you'll 752 00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:13,920 right there where our complex is, you'll see that the road, the connectivity, 753 00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:16,800 will come on Peachtree where the red light will be as well. So, that will 754 00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:21,160 help flow there. And again, we're all you know, we're 755 00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:24,360 we're all always working on connectivity with 756 00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:28,560 getting you out of your vehicle and into a golf cart 757 00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:34,160 Um, that you can still live, work, and play and um, hopefully 758 00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:37,800 do it with a golf cart. So, we're trying different We're We're working on 759 00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:42,680 different ways so that it does um, decrease the traffic on 53. 760 00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:45,640 Now, if I can add one more thing about the um, 761 00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:49,240 the parking lot, the beauty behind this is that that's a lot of parking. That's 762 00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:54,760 more than the city. Uh, I think it was uh, Joe, you remember 763 00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:59,000 the number 200 and something spaces? 270. 764 00:59:55,720 --> 01:00:05,480 270. Okay, so that's a lot of spaces and what what we envision was that the um, 765 01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:09,520 the downtown, this area, Main Street at night, you know, City Hall will be 766 01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:15,800 closed, but we've got a big parking lot that can overflow and and handle 767 01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:23,480 uh, a a good bit of downtown traffic. And um, we would we would agree to 768 01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:27,560 um, allow for or lease or something um, the 769 01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:32,880 Kumar's project, the that project to be able to use some of the parking that 770 01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:36,960 we're Not all of it, but some of it. Um, and there may be some compensating 771 01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:39,400 exchange for being able to do that, but we'll 772 01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:42,760 figure all that out in a development agreement. 773 01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:45,840 And if you also notice um, Tina, there's more additional park. 774 01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:49,720 Mhm. And there's also um, something that they 775 01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:55,640 um, and this is an option, but the Civic 776 01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:57,880 Center uh, and another another way to um, 777 01:00:56,520 --> 01:01:00,760 the community to you know, the community, the citizens to enjoy as 778 01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:05,800 well. Yeah, the point I'd make about that is 779 01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:11,040 that I had initially drawn it with small commercial buildings to get a a bigger 780 01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:15,120 commercial mass for downtown and the bottom line is it really that part of it 781 01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:19,760 really doesn't matter. Let's not lose sight of our focus is to get City Hall 782 01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:25,480 and police in there and we've got plenty of land to put parking lot and then 783 01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:29,640 extra space for whatever that may be. Kumar makes a good argument that we 784 01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:33,800 really ought to reserve a space for for a civic center. 785 01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:37,320 And so we've got it's drawn with a civic center and a small commercial building, 786 01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:41,000 but I would argue let's not get bogged down about 787 01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:45,080 the future uses of that part of it. That's less important. We got plenty of 788 01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:49,800 time to think about what we're going to do with that. We'll just install 789 01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:54,520 utilities that'll be good for whatever goes there. 790 01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:58,320 So the 270 spaces is just on the city property. It's an addition to the 791 01:01:56,320 --> 01:02:01,880 parking for the apartments. That's correct. They'd have their own 792 01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:07,200 the Kumar project would have its own parking 793 01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:10,440 and they would meet their code, but it would be um 794 01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:16,360 it would be basically shared parking. It's our parking, the city's. Um which 795 01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:19,920 we can use, but they they would be able to use if we come to agreement for them 796 01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:24,760 to use it in after hours. It's kind of like 797 01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:29,720 land use sharing. It's not you it you don't need to use it at the same time. 798 01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:34,720 After after 5:00 is when the restaurants will get busy and 799 01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:38,400 if we have any drinking places in there. That will be time for 800 01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:43,680 people to go. Just 270 and how many are yours? 801 01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:45,920 How many does the city control? No, uh 802 01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:52,120 Parking parking. Yeah, so on the residential side they're 803 01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:55,440 required to have have 413 spaces. And that's provided on the residential side. 804 01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:59,280 Okay. And so the only parking that's shared 805 01:02:57,480 --> 01:03:02,680 between the city and the other property are some 806 01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:06,320 commercial spaces. So all residential 807 01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:10,640 are on the residential side. There are some commercial on the residential side. 808 01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:13,120 How much is that? Let's see. 809 01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:24,800 Commercial parking required We're providing 175 commercial spaces 810 01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:31,680 and 100 of those are on the city side. You were going to provide 811 01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:31,680 55 on your side, correct? 812 01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:40,720 And uh the one other thing that um city manager asked me, said, "Well, you 813 01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:45,560 know, look at all this parking." Said, "Do we She said, "Do you really Do we 814 01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:50,120 really need to build a parking deck?" And I said, "Well, 815 01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:54,240 you might not. I mean, uh that's a lot of that's a lot of parking. I wouldn't 816 01:03:51,560 --> 01:04:00,920 say no to the others, but it it very well could be that this helps us 817 01:03:57,400 --> 01:04:06,840 build a smaller deck or defer the building of a parking deck or 818 01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:06,840 you know, it gives us better options. 819 01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:12,960 Well, could you repeat that last part that you just said? 820 01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:17,720 It gives us better By doing this, if we if we build a 821 01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:21,720 parking lot of this sort, it gives us better options for 822 01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:29,320 what we were proposing before with Mulberry. If we were to do maybe we 823 01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:34,440 don't have to do a parking deck or maybe it's not as big and expensive as what we 824 01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:40,240 thought we needed. Or maybe it can come in later because then we we've satisfied 825 01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:46,120 the requirement. It just gives us more options on that Mulberry property to not 826 01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:48,960 make that um we don't have to commit to what we 827 01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:51,640 thought we were going to have to commit to do there. 828 01:04:53,120 --> 01:05:00,400 Any more? Any other questions? 829 01:04:56,480 --> 01:05:05,000 We Thank you, everyone, on that. Okay, moving on 830 01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:10,400 moving on to uh number three, GDA board members. 831 01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:14,400 Uh we have one here. The other one uh uh is not able to be with us today. So, 832 01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:17,000 we do have Mitchell Clark here. Mitchell, do you want to just stand up 833 01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:21,960 if you don't mind? Just so everybody knows who you are. Um, 834 01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:26,880 the DD the DDA has already approved and it's 835 01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:31,400 for our team to approve on Tuesday. He's here to answer any questions if council 836 01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:31,400 has any. 837 01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:37,720 Mr. Clark, how long have you lived in the 838 01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:39,200 You what? I didn't know I was going to be asked 839 01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:41,040 that question. Oh. 840 01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:43,080 You been in the community how long? A long time. 841 01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:46,880 A while. Just to share with everybody. 842 01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:50,880 My name is Bill Pierce. I was raised in the church. 843 01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:55,080 I was in the old church. Seen a lot of changes. 844 01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:59,080 Right. A lot of changes. 845 01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:59,080 Raising my children 846 01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:02,520 a lot of changes. 847 01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:07,000 Now, I'm a believer. Dr. Kumar. 848 01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:09,320 Yes. I can 849 01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:11,440 I was part of the trick or treat last year. 850 01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:15,240 The trick or treat last year and the council wants to do it this year. 851 01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:18,440 And he was part of the real estate and he has had a lot of you know, take over 852 01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:24,080 the um, the um, aspect of DDA 853 01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:24,080 small business owners 854 01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:33,800 And he also, I just like to make a comment, too. He also approved for his 855 01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:36,680 building, which is, uh, we'll call it the Slice building. 856 01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:41,400 It's got beautiful Christmas lights on it now and you know, we thank you for 857 01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:41,400 doing that with with us. 858 01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:47,800 Any questions? Okay, the other candidate who was not 859 01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:51,440 here today is Mr. Maddox who owns Mission Hardware. Uh, 860 01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:53,600 if you went to the gala, you met him then. 861 01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:58,080 Uh, if you've been to the hardware store, you know him. 862 01:06:55,760 --> 01:07:02,040 And he probably knows you. Um, unfortunately, he's he's not here, so 863 01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:07,480 you can't ask him any questions, but do you have any for Dr. that Dr. Kumar 864 01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:07,480 could answer? 865 01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:14,680 Well, I have no questions. that I may I can watch for Mr. Mayor 866 01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:19,240 Madam. He's been too long 867 01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:23,520 and he represents the small business. We have all the big box coming to the town. 868 01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:28,560 Suddenly, we want to keep all the networking of all the small businesses 869 01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:32,880 and also the corporate taking the initiative. So, we want to be 870 01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:36,480 close to the community. So, Mayor has been a plus for the manager. 871 01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:42,120 How long has the mayor been here on the board? 872 01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:42,880 He's older. Actually, 873 01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:47,760 He's older. I was going to say he's older, right? 874 01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:53,760 Any questions? Any Anybody? Okay, great. 875 01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:58,560 All right, let's move on to item number four. This is a personnel policy update. 876 01:07:56,520 --> 01:08:03,560 Uh paid time off. I always like paid time off. I'm going to defer to Jen to 877 01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:03,560 talk about this. 878 01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:11,520 Um thank you, Mayor. So, the real changes that you see um proposed in 879 01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:16,120 front of you would Presently, employees are allowed to cash 880 01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:22,440 out PTO a maximum of four times per year. Um the finance payroll department 881 01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:28,720 has asked that we reduce that the number of times that employees can cash out um 882 01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:32,000 accumulated PTO to two times per year, once in the first six months of the 883 01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:38,080 year, and once in the second six months of the year maximum. And also um it's 884 01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:43,200 been requested just to keep the budget in check and also I guess encourage 885 01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:48,759 employees to actually use PTO for vacation time or just however they need 886 01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:55,960 to. Um it's recommended to reduce the number of hours that employees may cash 887 01:08:51,279 --> 01:09:02,640 out from 80 hours per request to 40 hours. So, currently the minimum is 20 888 01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:07,279 hours um that they would need to request at a time and that remains the 889 01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:11,440 same. So, it would just go from They would be 890 01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:16,480 Sorry. They'd be requesting um between 20 hours and 40 hours per check. And 891 01:09:14,319 --> 01:09:23,880 then that helps keep the budget where it should be as far as employee um pay and 892 01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:27,560 reducing the number of times helps keep Tiffany less busy. 893 01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:29,680 Yes. And and and calm. 894 01:09:29,440 --> 01:09:33,080 Yes. Helps keep Tiffany calm. 895 01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:36,880 good. How many employees for the total total 896 01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:39,640 city? Um, 897 01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:43,640 we've 18 at the moment. 18? 898 01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:50,240 Um, we do have a few open spots currently and then there are a couple 899 01:09:45,400 --> 01:09:50,240 new spot positions opening up in 2025. 900 01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:55,480 Looking for a job, James? Nope. 901 01:09:53,759 --> 01:09:58,160 Okay, just sign it out. Watching the 902 01:09:56,640 --> 01:10:00,360 money roll out. Yep, that's the approved budget that we 903 01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:05,560 just done. Mhm. 904 01:10:02,440 --> 01:10:08,800 Uh, any other questions? Okay. 905 01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:12,840 Uh, we'll move on to item number five. This is the water and sewer connection, 906 01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:20,040 also known now as system development fees. Uh, we 907 01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:23,280 this team in our retreat in September uh, requested 908 01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:29,040 um that our city look at our current fees. 909 01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:35,040 Uh, specifically we wanted to look at uh, sewer and water fees. Uh, we have 910 01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:39,680 now gotten some data back that um our fees are low. And so, um we'll go 911 01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:45,680 through a couple of changes on the fees. On the water fee uh, we currently are at 912 01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:51,400 $3,000. We are going to 4,600 if approved on Tuesday. 913 01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:57,800 Uh, the sewer fees we are currently at 6,000. We are uh, going to 8,800. 914 01:10:55,800 --> 01:11:04,560 Uh, I would like to explain a little bit about that I just so you understand it's 915 01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:12,160 also in the letter page four of the letter that we received with our packet. 916 01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:16,920 For us to go to a 2.0 as we all know is about 51 917 01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:20,840 million dollars and in order for us so really what that 918 01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:26,760 means is per gallon it's 35 dollars and 919 01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:30,400 17 cents and we we are not going to make the citizens 920 01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:35,320 that live here pay for that. We really really want 921 01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:38,200 development sorry developers sitting out there. 922 01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:42,880 You have to help us pay for that. So in order for us to do that we have to raise 923 01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:47,000 these these fees. David did I miss any major point there? 924 01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:51,200 Thank you. Anybody have any questions about that? 925 01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:57,960 Okay, great. Um 926 01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:03,120 If anyone wishes to address the mayor and council this evening about any 927 01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:06,520 issue, please raise your hand and I'll call you up. 928 01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:09,280 Seeing no hands I'll turn it back over to you Madam Mayor and we do need 929 01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:11,040 executive session for real estate and litigation. 930 01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:14,240 Okay, before I ask for a motion to go into 931 01:12:12,480 --> 01:12:18,000 executive session I just want to make three quick announcements and and then 932 01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:24,000 I'll make the motion, okay? Um upcoming events December 17th is our 933 01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:31,360 voting session that's next Tuesday the 18th is the planning and zoning 934 01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:37,120 which on that agenda is conditions for plan of the a daycare. 935 01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:41,040 Um also December 19th that's community conversations. I really 936 01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:44,160 want to try to get that out there people to attend that is on mental health 937 01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:48,360 awareness and Judge Ben Green who is our 938 01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:54,520 magistrate judge will be doing that with also Jessica Green and 939 01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:59,680 we will have a special guest Zachary. He's a young teenage gentleman who has 940 01:12:57,160 --> 01:13:04,760 gone through this and is on the other side and he has a beautiful story and I 941 01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:08,800 really hope that you, your family and the community is able to 942 01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:13,000 attend that. It's also the last day Judge Green will 943 01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:19,160 be with the city of Hutchins. So we also want to thank him for being 944 01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:23,240 our judge over the last How many years? Two years. 945 01:13:21,880 --> 01:13:28,080 Okay, with that I'd like to make a motion to go in executive or real 946 01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:30,640 estate. Is there a second? I second. 947 01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:35,640 Thank you. Who seconded? All in favor raise your hand. 948 01:13:32,280 --> 01:13:35,640 All right, we'll be back shortly. 949 01:13:47,320 --> 01:13:50,360 You don't want to email me. 950 01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:57,520 Yep. 951 01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:02,360 I'll be going down the road. 952 01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:10,840 If you're charging that, that's okay, but if you don't have pressure 953 01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:10,840 We don't have water pressure. 954 01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:14,960 Oh. 955 01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:32,240 Exactly right. Why shouldn't they pay? 956 01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:32,240 We're only paying out. 957 01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:45,280 No. 958 01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:53,440 You going to take that to JJ. What do you got in your pocket? Okay. 959 01:14:49,480 --> 01:14:53,440 We They're so far down the road.