1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:07,000 We will start the meeting, let's please have the row 2 00:00:08,229 --> 00:00:10,229 call. 3 00:00:31,734 --> 00:00:36,700 I just wanted to complement all of the efforts that have 4 00:00:36,700 --> 00:00:37,800 been made especially during last week affordable housing 5 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:38,800 week. 6 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:39,800 we had some wonderful events which executive director 7 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:40,800 will be reporting on. 8 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:42,800 I brought in the editorial and the article regarding our 9 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:44,800 15 anniversary. 10 00:00:59,700 --> 00:01:00,800 it was a wonderful timing. 11 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:02,408 the article was great. 12 00:01:02,948 --> 00:01:07,948 I want to thank everyone who contributed either to the 13 00:01:07,948 --> 00:01:10,948 events who attended the event and also who made these 14 00:01:10,948 --> 00:01:12,948 articles happen. 15 00:01:14,948 --> 00:01:20,348 it's not often that we get prominent notice sometimes 16 00:01:22,948 --> 00:01:25,948 you get not so good notice on the mercury news. 17 00:01:25,948 --> 00:01:30,748 I had to pay attention to this one. 18 00:01:34,948 --> 00:01:35,948 I want to make sure that everyone, all the commissioners 19 00:01:35,948 --> 00:01:36,948 know that they have to turn off the microphone after the 20 00:01:36,948 --> 00:01:38,948 speak. 21 00:01:40,948 --> 00:01:46,948 so the we don't have chatter going on in the recording. 22 00:01:46,948 --> 00:01:47,948 we will get to comments from the public on an item that 23 00:01:47,948 --> 00:01:49,948 it's not on the agenda. 24 00:01:49,948 --> 00:01:54,948 I do have a few people who want to speak on the item 25 00:01:54,948 --> 00:02:01,548 that is not on the agenda I will call them forward. 26 00:02:03,888 --> 00:02:05,888 I'm sorry? 27 00:02:07,888 --> 00:02:08,888 yes. 28 00:02:08,888 --> 00:02:09,888 stephanie? 29 00:02:09,888 --> 00:02:11,888 stephanie shaw? 30 00:02:19,888 --> 00:02:24,888 >> good morning my name is stephanie shaw I have been a 31 00:02:24,888 --> 00:02:27,288 housing authority employee for 24. 32 00:02:27,888 --> 00:02:29,888 085 years. 33 00:02:34,888 --> 00:02:40,888 as a housing program specialist, I'm a member of scei 34 00:02:44,888 --> 00:02:45,888 you 521 and a contract action team member. 35 00:02:45,888 --> 00:02:50,888 when I first came to the housing authority I was just 36 00:02:50,888 --> 00:02:51,888 amazed. 37 00:02:51,888 --> 00:02:56,688 I had no intentions of staying this long. 38 00:02:59,888 --> 00:03:00,828 I decided, I'll come for four years and in all leave but 39 00:03:00,828 --> 00:03:01,828 I didn't. 40 00:03:01,828 --> 00:03:07,228 what I found was employees would been here for 15, 10, 41 00:03:10,828 --> 00:03:13,828 20 years and when I inquired I said, are you here? 42 00:03:13,828 --> 00:03:16,828 because they felt that they were very committed to the 43 00:03:16,828 --> 00:03:18,828 organization and their mission. 44 00:03:18,828 --> 00:03:24,828 after that I thought, maybe allstate a couple of more 45 00:03:28,828 --> 00:03:29,828 years. 46 00:03:29,828 --> 00:03:30,828 plus there were job offers on the table for me to go but 47 00:03:30,828 --> 00:03:32,828 I decided I wanted to stay here and make a difference 48 00:03:32,828 --> 00:03:36,428 and I feel that I have. 49 00:03:37,828 --> 00:03:39,828 as you know, we are in our contract negotiations. 50 00:03:39,828 --> 00:03:46,428 we have set clear goals we won a contract that addresses 51 00:03:47,828 --> 00:03:49,828 fair concentration that retains and recruits a 52 00:03:49,828 --> 00:03:51,828 cutting-edge workforce. 53 00:03:54,828 --> 00:03:55,828 we would like to look at a work standard, medical 54 00:03:55,828 --> 00:04:01,228 benefits and most importantly we won a contract that 55 00:04:13,768 --> 00:04:14,768 recognizes employees years of committed service. 56 00:04:14,768 --> 00:04:15,768 earlier this month, management gave us her comprehensive 57 00:04:15,768 --> 00:04:16,768 proposal that would only lead to a high turnover which 58 00:04:16,768 --> 00:04:18,768 has a negative impact on the quality of service that we 59 00:04:18,768 --> 00:04:19,768 provide to our community. 60 00:04:19,768 --> 00:04:23,768 based on this proposal, over 50% of the imports would 61 00:04:23,768 --> 00:04:29,168 not have wage princes, around 90% of the employees will 62 00:04:32,768 --> 00:04:39,368 receive a wage increase while only get a 1-2% way to 63 00:04:44,768 --> 00:04:45,768 increase. 64 00:04:45,768 --> 00:04:46,768 it's an insult because this is not even cover inflation. 65 00:04:46,768 --> 00:04:47,768 management propose to put the burden on any changes in 66 00:04:47,768 --> 00:04:49,768 medical expenses on the employees and employees 67 00:04:49,768 --> 00:04:53,968 contribute the full cost of their pension. 68 00:04:59,768 --> 00:05:00,708 with this proposal, we do not see any improvements 69 00:05:00,708 --> 00:05:03,108 always see his takeaways. 70 00:05:12,708 --> 00:05:13,708 management has proposed to weakening our unit by 71 00:05:13,708 --> 00:05:14,708 proposing to remove the it coordinator, computer system 72 00:05:14,708 --> 00:05:16,708 technicians and database analysts from our union. 73 00:05:16,708 --> 00:05:17,708 the message we want to bring to you today is, we want to 74 00:05:17,708 --> 00:05:21,708 contract that will recruit, retain qualified and a 75 00:05:21,708 --> 00:05:23,708 committed force. 76 00:05:25,708 --> 00:05:31,108 recognize and value employees years of service and your 77 00:05:32,708 --> 00:05:33,708 loyalty. 78 00:05:33,708 --> 00:05:37,908 more dates and longer sessions of negotiations. 79 00:05:53,708 --> 00:05:54,708 we are not a throw away, we wish to be heard. 80 00:05:54,708 --> 00:05:55,708 and a contract and ensures that our employees will be 81 00:05:55,708 --> 00:05:56,708 paid a salary that allows them and their families to 82 00:05:56,708 --> 00:05:57,708 live in santa clara valley with dignity and respect. 83 00:05:57,708 --> 00:05:58,708 thank you. 84 00:05:58,708 --> 00:06:00,708 >> thank you. 85 00:06:06,648 --> 00:06:07,648 I would like to thank michel and say, she kept it to two 86 00:06:07,648 --> 00:06:13,480 minutes and I'm requesting everyone to do the same. 87 00:06:20,648 --> 00:06:22,648 si? 88 00:06:25,648 --> 00:06:26,648 when would you like to come, I will put you on the 89 00:06:26,648 --> 00:06:28,648 bottom? 90 00:06:28,648 --> 00:06:30,648 >> good morning. 91 00:06:30,648 --> 00:06:36,648 I vanessa and I a program specialist for almost 7 years. 92 00:06:47,648 --> 00:06:48,648 what I wanted to discuss today is the recent issue of 93 00:06:48,648 --> 00:06:49,648 customer service. 94 00:06:49,648 --> 00:06:50,648 it seems it's been a hot button topic lately. 95 00:06:50,648 --> 00:06:51,648 and I myself kind of feel that the finger has been 96 00:06:51,648 --> 00:06:57,480 pointed on the specialist and housing assistance but, I 97 00:07:09,588 --> 00:07:10,588 think we should think about what the recent changes that 98 00:07:10,588 --> 00:07:11,588 occurred that have cost this outcry from the community 99 00:07:11,588 --> 00:07:12,588 about this lack of service that they feel they are 100 00:07:12,588 --> 00:07:13,588 receiving. 101 00:07:13,588 --> 00:07:14,588 many of the people in her agency have been here for five 102 00:07:14,588 --> 00:07:18,788 years and this is a new issue. 103 00:07:20,588 --> 00:07:25,588 and since the majority of staff has not change I would 104 00:07:25,588 --> 00:07:26,588 like to think of what has teams that may have 105 00:07:26,588 --> 00:07:27,588 contributed? 106 00:07:27,588 --> 00:07:32,588 one thing we do not longer have manager, supervisor 107 00:07:32,588 --> 00:07:34,588 meeting. 108 00:07:39,588 --> 00:07:40,588 the goal of that change to stop all meetings was to 109 00:07:40,588 --> 00:07:42,988 improve customer service meetings. 110 00:07:43,588 --> 00:07:48,388 we need to think, has that goldman achieved? 111 00:07:48,588 --> 00:07:49,588 our work process have changed, we've begun the 112 00:07:49,588 --> 00:07:54,388 implication of the process meaning that, housing program 113 00:07:56,588 --> 00:08:02,588 specialist now process a file from beginning to end when 114 00:08:06,588 --> 00:08:07,588 the applicant is determined to be eligible to become to 115 00:08:07,588 --> 00:08:08,588 the program all the way that they determined, for 116 00:08:08,588 --> 00:08:12,188 whatever reasons they are not eligible. 117 00:08:18,588 --> 00:08:19,588 it was anticipated that this change would decrease a 118 00:08:19,588 --> 00:08:20,588 workload on staff, however, the majority of my 119 00:08:20,588 --> 00:08:25,388 colleagues to not agree that this has happened. 120 00:08:25,588 --> 00:08:26,588 when I calculated this outcome of the case lowes has 121 00:08:26,588 --> 00:08:28,988 decreased by 30-40 families. 122 00:08:31,588 --> 00:08:32,588 it may sound a lot but when you handle 400 families, and 123 00:08:32,588 --> 00:08:37,388 does not make that large of an impact. 124 00:08:41,588 --> 00:08:42,588 initially, it sounds like a decrease but what has 125 00:08:42,588 --> 00:08:43,588 occurred is large task to take up a lot of time and have 126 00:08:43,588 --> 00:08:45,988 been shifted to specialist. 127 00:08:52,588 --> 00:08:53,588 and then the additional new referrals have committee 128 00:08:53,588 --> 00:08:54,588 created --mitigated any referrals. 129 00:08:54,588 --> 00:08:58,588 we do not have the ability to retain staff. 130 00:08:58,588 --> 00:09:04,588 new personal come into the staff there giving full case 131 00:09:14,528 --> 00:09:15,528 load and given responsibility without training. 132 00:09:15,528 --> 00:09:16,528 these changes have been over wyoming for the season 133 00:09:16,528 --> 00:09:17,528 staff I cannot imagine how the new staff must feel. 134 00:09:17,528 --> 00:09:18,528 apparently the lack of retention tells us how they feel. 135 00:09:18,528 --> 00:09:19,528 they are leaving the agency. 136 00:09:19,528 --> 00:09:20,528 >> this is two minutes. 137 00:09:20,528 --> 00:09:21,528 thank you. 138 00:09:21,528 --> 00:09:23,528 >> thank you. 139 00:09:36,528 --> 00:09:37,528 hi, thank you for letting me address your name. 140 00:09:37,528 --> 00:09:38,528 my name is john and I've been here around 19 months. 141 00:09:38,528 --> 00:09:41,528 I've earned two college degrees. 142 00:09:56,528 --> 00:09:57,528 I also worked at two housing authorities at a couple 143 00:09:57,528 --> 00:09:58,528 hosteling nonprofits. 144 00:09:58,528 --> 00:09:59,528 the reason why bring this up is because a housing 145 00:09:59,528 --> 00:10:00,468 authority has stated that they wanted to obtain and 146 00:10:00,468 --> 00:10:01,468 retain qualified and experienced workers. 147 00:10:01,468 --> 00:10:02,468 but going beyond the rhetoric and looking at what's on 148 00:10:02,468 --> 00:10:07,868 the papers looking with the action, actions such as 149 00:10:15,468 --> 00:10:16,468 proposing cuts to a benefit, attacking our requirements 150 00:10:16,468 --> 00:10:17,468 and retirements. 151 00:10:17,468 --> 00:10:18,468 undercutting her wages and more importantly denying the 152 00:10:18,468 --> 00:10:22,680 most experienced worker a cost-of-living increase. 153 00:10:23,468 --> 00:10:24,468 to state the obvious, we live in one of the most 154 00:10:24,468 --> 00:10:28,680 unaffordable places in the united states. 155 00:10:29,468 --> 00:10:36,680 to me, this does not spell out the competitive nor even 156 00:10:40,468 --> 00:10:41,468 retaining people. 157 00:10:41,468 --> 00:10:42,468 I also wanted to share with you guys in the last two 158 00:10:42,468 --> 00:10:43,468 weeks we have lost five housing specialist from her 159 00:10:43,468 --> 00:10:45,468 agency. 160 00:10:50,468 --> 00:10:51,468 requesting that the board can involved, too, ask 161 00:10:51,468 --> 00:10:52,468 questions and three, help us achieve a fair contract. 162 00:10:52,468 --> 00:10:57,268 we also are requesting that management provide us 163 00:11:02,408 --> 00:11:03,408 additional days to negotiate the contract as of now 164 00:11:03,408 --> 00:11:04,408 we'll have one schedule contract negotiation date which 165 00:11:04,408 --> 00:11:05,408 is in june. 166 00:11:05,408 --> 00:11:07,808 thank you very much. 167 00:11:09,408 --> 00:11:12,408 >> susan cartwright, no shaun cartwright. 168 00:11:41,408 --> 00:11:42,408 the current all the way home program causes to secure 169 00:11:42,408 --> 00:11:43,408 homelessness. 170 00:11:43,408 --> 00:11:44,408 it causes displacements and perhaps even death just 171 00:11:44,408 --> 00:11:45,408 based on the information that we've tracked down 172 00:11:45,408 --> 00:11:46,408 ourselves from the family alone at four properties in 173 00:11:46,408 --> 00:11:47,408 san jose and three in santa clara have cleared about 60 174 00:11:47,408 --> 00:11:48,408 units not people units. 175 00:11:48,408 --> 00:11:53,408 two men that's the majority of these fats were not 176 00:11:53,408 --> 00:11:54,408 homeless, they came from other homes they knew they were 177 00:11:54,408 --> 00:11:55,408 moving into the units for 3 to 5 months and now these 178 00:11:55,408 --> 00:12:00,208 fats --and they replace people who are rent-controlled 179 00:12:01,348 --> 00:12:05,548 or painted long run for the area. 180 00:12:06,348 --> 00:12:07,348 now these fats are caught in the middle. 181 00:12:07,348 --> 00:12:08,348 they're terrified to go to loser housing again. 182 00:12:08,348 --> 00:12:14,948 some of them are the maximum level and there are afraid 183 00:12:25,348 --> 00:12:26,348 that the rent will be raised and they will be homeless 184 00:12:26,348 --> 00:12:27,348 once again. 185 00:12:27,348 --> 00:12:28,348 we spoken to catherine and her counterpart mona at the 186 00:12:28,348 --> 00:12:29,348 va and both seem unable or unwilling to change the 187 00:12:29,348 --> 00:12:34,348 system which is why we are here today and doing media. 188 00:12:34,348 --> 00:12:35,348 on behalf of paul mayer the 92 veteran been evicted and 189 00:12:35,348 --> 00:12:36,348 who we all feel may die because of the stress of force 190 00:12:36,348 --> 00:12:42,948 leave his home of 44 years, I ask you to close a 191 00:12:43,348 --> 00:12:44,348 loophole that allows people like the greedy the males to 192 00:12:44,348 --> 00:12:45,348 profit out of other people's pain and plight. 193 00:12:45,348 --> 00:12:47,348 >> thank you. 194 00:12:49,348 --> 00:12:51,348 corey? 195 00:13:02,288 --> 00:13:03,288 >> good morning. 196 00:13:03,288 --> 00:13:04,288 I'm here because of the d my old family and their greed. 197 00:13:04,288 --> 00:13:05,288 I homeless because of this family and their great. 198 00:13:05,288 --> 00:13:07,288 it's that simple. 199 00:13:12,288 --> 00:13:13,288 the impacted my entire apartment complex on this war 200 00:13:13,288 --> 00:13:14,288 they would not do that, they came in give us also today 201 00:13:14,288 --> 00:13:17,288 notices and then refuse to give us our deposits back of 202 00:13:17,288 --> 00:13:20,288 the eventually dad we had to fight for the couple next 203 00:13:20,288 --> 00:13:26,888 to me they have a special needs daughter who had they 204 00:13:29,288 --> 00:13:30,288 had to concentrate on and find a new place for her, they 205 00:13:30,288 --> 00:13:31,288 couldn't find anything they just had to get out and get 206 00:13:31,288 --> 00:13:35,488 a new place and start over again. 207 00:13:40,288 --> 00:13:41,288 none of this had happened it wasn't for the greed of 208 00:13:41,288 --> 00:13:42,288 this family. 209 00:13:42,288 --> 00:13:43,288 it's not about housing, homeless veterans is about them 210 00:13:43,288 --> 00:13:45,288 making more and more money and because of them, I'm not 211 00:13:45,288 --> 00:13:46,288 homeless. 212 00:13:46,288 --> 00:13:49,288 I'm working, but I'm homeless. 213 00:13:58,288 --> 00:13:59,288 you can change that, not my situation but their 214 00:13:59,288 --> 00:14:00,228 situation and hopefully family situation because I'm 215 00:14:00,228 --> 00:14:01,228 single and I don't have kids. 216 00:14:01,228 --> 00:14:02,228 there's family out there and shelter due to this family. 217 00:14:02,228 --> 00:14:04,228 it's up to you to change that, I can only do so much I 218 00:14:04,228 --> 00:14:09,228 work full-time but like I said, I homeless and I'm 219 00:14:09,228 --> 00:14:13,428 trying to change that as we speak. 220 00:14:14,228 --> 00:14:17,228 being single without kids is a little bit easier on me 221 00:14:17,228 --> 00:14:18,228 but there are plenty of families out there that are 222 00:14:18,228 --> 00:14:23,628 struggling there now living in shelters that should be 223 00:14:26,228 --> 00:14:27,228 but are because of this family. 224 00:14:27,228 --> 00:14:28,228 thank you. 225 00:14:28,228 --> 00:14:30,228 >> thank you. 226 00:14:38,228 --> 00:14:41,228 I'm sorry by men's pronounces last name. 227 00:14:41,228 --> 00:14:43,228 it's okay. 228 00:14:56,228 --> 00:14:57,228 good morning I live in san jose as part of the 229 00:14:57,228 --> 00:14:58,228 investigative team that was looking into the this family 230 00:14:58,228 --> 00:14:59,228 properties, we initially starting looking into it 231 00:14:59,228 --> 00:15:02,168 because of the claim that they were renovating the 232 00:15:02,168 --> 00:15:03,168 properties and that's why they were evicting all the 233 00:15:03,168 --> 00:15:05,168 tenants. 234 00:15:05,168 --> 00:15:06,168 we were talking to the folks and a lot of them had no 235 00:15:06,168 --> 00:15:09,168 idea that these veterans knew that they were taking the 236 00:15:09,168 --> 00:15:13,168 place of someone who had been affected. 237 00:15:13,168 --> 00:15:19,168 they thought that they were coming into clear units when 238 00:15:19,168 --> 00:15:23,968 we started 10 him what happened, they felt bad. 239 00:15:26,168 --> 00:15:27,168 they heard about the 92-year-old veteran being kicked 240 00:15:27,168 --> 00:15:30,168 out and they themselves as veterans felt bad because 241 00:15:30,168 --> 00:15:32,168 they know how hard it is. 242 00:15:32,168 --> 00:15:38,168 it was shocking because I used to work for --in the 243 00:15:38,168 --> 00:15:44,768 partner project all for all the way home project and I 244 00:15:48,168 --> 00:15:49,168 was proud because I think it's a very good mission it's 245 00:15:49,168 --> 00:15:50,168 important for veterans to come back and have that you 246 00:15:50,168 --> 00:15:54,368 know, confidence at the will be house. 247 00:15:57,168 --> 00:15:58,168 but to displace other people were not accomplishing 248 00:15:58,168 --> 00:15:59,168 anything. 249 00:15:59,168 --> 00:16:06,368 I think this is something I need to be closed and this 250 00:16:11,108 --> 00:16:12,108 happened prior to the alice act and the know cause a 251 00:16:12,108 --> 00:16:13,108 bitches those just passed by san jose. 252 00:16:13,108 --> 00:16:14,108 it's important to kind of do this retroactively and stop 253 00:16:14,108 --> 00:16:15,108 this once for all. 254 00:16:15,108 --> 00:16:16,108 and really fix the problem of housing people and prevent 255 00:16:16,108 --> 00:16:17,108 homelessness. 256 00:16:17,108 --> 00:16:19,108 thank you. 257 00:16:20,108 --> 00:16:22,108 thank you. 258 00:16:22,108 --> 00:16:24,108 jamie. 259 00:16:28,108 --> 00:16:30,108 thank you. 260 00:16:42,108 --> 00:16:43,108 I jamie and I'm an homeless advocate and I was with the 261 00:16:43,108 --> 00:16:44,108 abyss a good team we were actually there on the first 262 00:16:44,108 --> 00:16:45,108 property where we figured that the veterans were being 263 00:16:45,108 --> 00:16:49,908 put in and other people are being displaced. 264 00:16:53,108 --> 00:16:54,108 the lead to other properties and I was at the second 265 00:16:54,108 --> 00:16:55,108 property is on really poor living conditions. 266 00:16:55,108 --> 00:16:56,108 there was glass outside there were doing some 267 00:16:56,108 --> 00:16:59,108 construction without permits and really young children, 268 00:16:59,108 --> 00:17:00,480 there were nails of the gutter was falling off and it 269 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:01,480 was really important condition. 270 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:08,848 it was kind of sad to see these families they had to be 271 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:21,480 in a hotel over a month, thank goodness for set jos 272 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:22,480 housing department they put them up in a hotel but 273 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:23,480 that's because of our connections but the family that 274 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:24,480 did not have the connection they could of been living in 275 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:25,480 a car or shelters. 276 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:26,480 it's important that we fix this loophole also, with the 277 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:28,480 trump cuts, we really hope that there is any cuts to 278 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:29,480 housing. 279 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:30,480 I grew up on section 8 and I'm working and I'm working 280 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:35,448 in the committee and it's really important the families 281 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:39,480 have homes and my mom is currently on housing now with 282 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:43,848 my nine-year-old sister and thank goodness for that. 283 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:00,480 thank you kathy. 284 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:07,480 I have not been here for a long time but as jamie 285 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:08,480 mentioned --we have mr. Jamie we really felt ignored 286 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:10,480 actually. 287 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:12,480 >> trust me, I'm going to do a lot better for the months 288 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:16,848 coming up because actually what jamie mentioned about 289 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:25,480 the cuts they're extremely serious there more serious 290 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:26,480 documents which are coming out in our more serious and 291 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:27,480 what we heard about even before we had a big event at 292 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:32,448 the college were catherine presented about the cuts and 293 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:37,648 what can be done about them. 294 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:41,480 the main answer that people came up with is that we got 295 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:43,480 to come together. 296 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:48,480 we got to come together with the tenants, the tenants 297 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:49,480 got to get organize which is my job and that's 298 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:52,480 uncommitted to do but we also need the cooperation of 299 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:56,480 the commissioners and all the agencies that we work 300 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:57,480 with. 301 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:03,648 I would like to thank you for participating and that I 302 00:19:06,988 --> 00:19:07,988 think this issue is extremely important. 303 00:19:07,988 --> 00:19:08,988 it's kind of a scandal that's been going on for a while 304 00:19:08,988 --> 00:19:13,788 and I don't think that it's over yet. 305 00:19:13,988 --> 00:19:14,988 I think it's important for the housing authority to find 306 00:19:14,988 --> 00:19:15,988 a way to address it. 307 00:19:15,988 --> 00:19:18,988 I do not know the legalities of it but something needs 308 00:19:18,988 --> 00:19:19,988 to be done. 309 00:19:19,988 --> 00:19:25,388 you cannot house some people by making other people 310 00:19:34,988 --> 00:19:35,988 homeless, that the pizza purpose. 311 00:19:35,988 --> 00:19:36,988 part of our whole process here as I said, we need to 312 00:19:36,988 --> 00:19:37,988 bring people together and to bring people together, we 313 00:19:37,988 --> 00:19:38,988 cannot allow the perception that we are cooperating with 314 00:19:38,988 --> 00:19:40,988 these bad actors. 315 00:19:45,988 --> 00:19:46,988 the family is so bad we were discussing this in san jose 316 00:19:46,988 --> 00:19:47,988 and our discussions of just cause. 317 00:19:47,988 --> 00:19:53,988 some of the landlords even said, when we pass, they 318 00:19:54,988 --> 00:19:55,988 wanted to have a was called a tenant protection act they 319 00:19:55,988 --> 00:20:00,928 said we passes active, will call it the de mayo tenant 320 00:20:00,928 --> 00:20:02,928 protection act because they are so notorious. 321 00:20:02,928 --> 00:20:06,928 I think it's important to take whatever action is 322 00:20:06,928 --> 00:20:09,928 practical to put a stop to this. 323 00:20:09,928 --> 00:20:12,328 thank you very much. 324 00:20:13,928 --> 00:20:15,928 thank you. 325 00:20:16,928 --> 00:20:23,528 so, I have been involved in my role with the campaign 326 00:20:23,928 --> 00:20:24,928 and I want to say to shaun and your colleagues at you 327 00:20:24,928 --> 00:20:32,128 really did a lot of work to make this issue public and 328 00:20:35,928 --> 00:20:36,928 in the forefront and you help me understand things that 329 00:20:36,928 --> 00:20:40,928 I did not know and I'm really grateful to your advocacy. 330 00:20:40,928 --> 00:20:41,928 we and I take this seriously and we've already been 331 00:20:41,928 --> 00:20:43,928 talking about this. 332 00:20:43,928 --> 00:20:47,528 just know I grateful to you. 333 00:20:54,928 --> 00:20:55,928 so, we need to I can die this for a future meeting? 334 00:20:55,928 --> 00:20:56,928 yes. 335 00:20:56,928 --> 00:21:00,868 I have already asked for that in a previous meeting. 336 00:21:00,868 --> 00:21:01,868 with the city of san jose of you recall when patrick 337 00:21:01,868 --> 00:21:03,868 reported last month about the just cause there was every 338 00:21:03,868 --> 00:21:06,868 quest to bring that back and also report on how would 339 00:21:06,868 --> 00:21:12,268 work with her voucher leasing system and frankly there 340 00:21:14,868 --> 00:21:18,868 is a set of landlord incentives there are part of all 341 00:21:18,868 --> 00:21:22,868 the way home campaign and there's another one that we 342 00:21:22,868 --> 00:21:29,468 have just approved as part of a move to work activity. 343 00:21:36,868 --> 00:21:37,868 putting that all together and having the city 344 00:21:37,868 --> 00:21:38,868 participate and I would anticipate that I'll probably in 345 00:21:38,868 --> 00:21:39,868 august board date. 346 00:21:39,868 --> 00:21:40,868 we have budget in june, nobody july so it's probably 347 00:21:40,868 --> 00:21:41,868 gonna be august the best opportunity for us to collect 348 00:21:41,868 --> 00:21:42,868 information. 349 00:21:42,868 --> 00:21:45,868 it would also give the city time to get their 350 00:21:45,868 --> 00:21:48,268 enforcement up and running. 351 00:21:54,868 --> 00:21:58,868 I will have a motion for approval of the minutes. 352 00:21:58,868 --> 00:22:02,808 one second, before you go to that we heard some 353 00:22:02,808 --> 00:22:06,808 statements about retention, can we get that on her next 354 00:22:06,808 --> 00:22:14,800 meaning I would like to get some facts if we have a 355 00:22:14,808 --> 00:22:18,808 retention issue and what it looks like it's and what the 356 00:22:18,808 --> 00:22:21,808 rates are you now by unit chris mark we have actually 357 00:22:21,808 --> 00:22:27,808 pull that data will happy to provide it to commissioner 358 00:22:29,808 --> 00:22:32,808 anderson is addressing employee retention. 359 00:22:35,808 --> 00:22:36,808 I want to start with the facts so, I need some factual 360 00:22:36,808 --> 00:22:42,808 information and you can compare it to the retention or 361 00:22:46,808 --> 00:22:47,808 whatever you want to compare it to. 362 00:22:47,808 --> 00:22:48,808 I would like to have something that gives me some 363 00:22:48,808 --> 00:22:51,808 information about it's an allegation. 364 00:22:52,808 --> 00:22:56,408 absolutely we, we can do that. 365 00:23:01,748 --> 00:23:02,748 >> do we have a report on the negotiations? 366 00:23:02,748 --> 00:23:03,748 at the end of the board meeting we were going to talk to 367 00:23:03,748 --> 00:23:09,148 you about scheduling a special meeting on the operating 368 00:23:13,748 --> 00:23:14,748 budget and that would be a good opportunity for us to go 369 00:23:14,748 --> 00:23:15,748 back in a close session. 370 00:23:15,748 --> 00:23:16,748 at this point, we did not schedule a close session 371 00:23:16,748 --> 00:23:17,748 because we have not received a proposal from labor. 372 00:23:17,748 --> 00:23:21,948 we are kind of waiting for things. 373 00:23:26,748 --> 00:23:27,748 for things to mature. 374 00:23:27,748 --> 00:23:28,748 people made specific suggestions and I do not want to 375 00:23:28,748 --> 00:23:34,748 comment on the two minute but I concerned about some of 376 00:23:34,748 --> 00:23:35,748 the things that they said. 377 00:23:35,748 --> 00:23:36,748 at some point, I would like either a close session we 378 00:23:36,748 --> 00:23:38,748 can discuss what's going on. 379 00:23:38,748 --> 00:23:43,748 at the end of the board meeting we can do this. 380 00:23:43,748 --> 00:23:44,748 thank you. 381 00:23:44,748 --> 00:23:48,748 any other comments regarding the employees or regarding 382 00:23:48,748 --> 00:23:50,748 our rental loophole? 383 00:23:54,748 --> 00:23:57,748 >> is there a way, can we get those comments submitted 384 00:23:57,748 --> 00:24:00,148 that people presented today? 385 00:24:02,688 --> 00:24:06,288 >> I'm not sure what you mean? 386 00:24:08,688 --> 00:24:09,688 >> those that came forward and had their two minute 387 00:24:09,688 --> 00:24:15,880 presentation is her way we can have those submitted 388 00:24:18,688 --> 00:24:19,688 four-- 389 00:24:19,688 --> 00:24:20,688 >> everything that is in the board meeting is a recorded 390 00:24:20,688 --> 00:24:21,688 on audio. 391 00:24:21,688 --> 00:24:22,688 you can go back and listen to it if you like. 392 00:24:22,688 --> 00:24:23,688 >> thank you. 393 00:24:23,688 --> 00:24:27,288 >> okay, anymore discussion discussing our public 394 00:24:38,688 --> 00:24:39,688 comments? 395 00:24:39,688 --> 00:24:40,688 I will go to the approval of the minutes is there a 396 00:24:40,688 --> 00:24:41,688 motion? 397 00:24:41,688 --> 00:24:42,688 >> move approval. 398 00:24:42,688 --> 00:24:43,688 >> second. 399 00:24:43,688 --> 00:24:44,688 commissioner anderson the motion was made and who 400 00:24:44,688 --> 00:24:45,688 seconded? 401 00:24:45,688 --> 00:24:46,688 all right, commissioner loving. 402 00:24:46,688 --> 00:24:48,688 mine. 403 00:24:48,688 --> 00:24:49,688 all in favor say yes? 404 00:24:49,688 --> 00:24:51,688 motion passes. 405 00:24:54,688 --> 00:24:55,688 we will have our verbal report from the executive 406 00:24:55,688 --> 00:24:57,688 director. 407 00:25:10,628 --> 00:25:11,628 >> good morning I going to try to move this along. 408 00:25:11,628 --> 00:25:12,628 I just want report that last month the board gave us 409 00:25:12,628 --> 00:25:13,628 authority to put in a bid on a small parcel of property 410 00:25:13,628 --> 00:25:14,628 nearby. 411 00:25:14,628 --> 00:25:15,628 with the hope so we can secure some additional parking 412 00:25:15,628 --> 00:25:17,628 spaces. 413 00:25:25,628 --> 00:25:26,628 the actual bit that one was twice, more than twice of 414 00:25:26,628 --> 00:25:27,628 what the asking price was. 415 00:25:27,628 --> 00:25:28,628 we did not win it. 416 00:25:28,628 --> 00:25:30,628 secondly I want to let you know that may 11 was bike to 417 00:25:30,628 --> 00:25:31,628 work day, and we can pass at around. 418 00:25:31,628 --> 00:25:36,428 this is a photo of the participating employees, 419 00:25:39,628 --> 00:25:40,628 stephanie shaw usually participates and I missed her 420 00:25:40,628 --> 00:25:44,228 this year I don't know why. 421 00:25:50,628 --> 00:25:51,628 I wanted to highlight the affordable housing week 422 00:25:51,628 --> 00:25:52,628 events, the housing authority was a sponsor the event we 423 00:25:52,628 --> 00:25:55,628 also participated in other events. 424 00:25:55,628 --> 00:25:56,628 we had the breakfast, we shorter faces of affordable 425 00:25:56,628 --> 00:25:59,568 housing video and I was on the panel that afternoon 426 00:25:59,568 --> 00:26:04,368 regarding measure a with supervisor chavez and wayne. 427 00:26:06,568 --> 00:26:12,568 we also attended at one of our senior facilities, there 428 00:26:13,568 --> 00:26:19,568 was a health trust presentation with life steps on the 429 00:26:24,568 --> 00:26:25,568 food security issues. 430 00:26:25,568 --> 00:26:26,568 if you can pass it around, this is a handout. 431 00:26:26,568 --> 00:26:30,768 specifically, would senior population trying to resolve 432 00:26:34,568 --> 00:26:35,568 food insecurities and life steps has been working with 433 00:26:35,568 --> 00:26:36,568 health trust under some pilot projects to organize the 434 00:26:36,568 --> 00:26:38,568 seniors, our residents to go and become kind of a second 435 00:26:38,568 --> 00:26:40,568 harvest food bank center. 436 00:26:40,568 --> 00:26:42,968 it's been very successful. 437 00:27:00,508 --> 00:27:01,508 I was on a panel with sandy perry on federal funding 438 00:27:01,508 --> 00:27:02,508 cuts choose a night, and then we also attended an event 439 00:27:02,508 --> 00:27:03,508 with west valley community services. 440 00:27:03,508 --> 00:27:04,508 one of our staff attended that amount unfortunately it 441 00:27:04,508 --> 00:27:06,508 was a rumor circulating that people, batches are going 442 00:27:06,508 --> 00:27:07,508 to be available. 443 00:27:07,508 --> 00:27:13,508 our staff member had to answer 100 people and say no, 444 00:27:16,508 --> 00:27:17,508 I'm sorry you receive some bad information. 445 00:27:17,508 --> 00:27:18,508 that one was not so good. 446 00:27:18,508 --> 00:27:19,508 finally we had a movie night and we show time out of 447 00:27:19,508 --> 00:27:24,508 mind which is a story a street homelessness in new york 448 00:27:24,508 --> 00:27:25,508 city. 449 00:27:25,508 --> 00:27:29,108 it was a really moving story. 450 00:27:32,508 --> 00:27:33,508 I think that concludes our week events that we as an 451 00:27:33,508 --> 00:27:37,508 agency participated in and then I wanted to echo the 452 00:27:37,508 --> 00:27:38,508 thanks to the commissioner for helping me and organizing 453 00:27:38,508 --> 00:27:42,708 our newspaper coverage of our 50th anniversary. 454 00:27:49,508 --> 00:27:50,508 >> it was really a wonderful week. 455 00:27:50,508 --> 00:27:52,508 I really thank all of you who attended those events. 456 00:27:52,508 --> 00:27:55,508 the breakfast was really well attended and I really 457 00:27:55,508 --> 00:27:57,908 enjoyed the whole event. 458 00:28:04,508 --> 00:28:05,508 okay, we have a verbal report from the county of santa 459 00:28:05,508 --> 00:28:06,508 clara. 460 00:28:06,508 --> 00:28:08,508 mr. Kitty. 461 00:28:09,508 --> 00:28:10,508 >> good morning. 462 00:28:10,508 --> 00:28:11,508 over the last few months the county of santa clara has 463 00:28:11,508 --> 00:28:16,908 been working with the housing authority to begin to 464 00:28:18,508 --> 00:28:19,508 implement measure eight which is really setting the 465 00:28:19,508 --> 00:28:24,908 stage for how we achieve the counting's housing parties 466 00:28:27,508 --> 00:28:28,508 and the club goals that we all as a community have 467 00:28:28,508 --> 00:28:30,508 adopted. 468 00:28:31,508 --> 00:28:35,708 surely there's some technical pieces which conclude, 469 00:28:40,508 --> 00:28:41,508 what are kind of the guidelines for our investments what 470 00:28:41,508 --> 00:28:44,508 is the minimum number of supporting housing units for 471 00:28:44,508 --> 00:28:45,508 development etc. 472 00:28:45,508 --> 00:28:49,508 pick another piece that is often overlooked is this 473 00:28:49,508 --> 00:28:53,708 development of a share set of goals. 474 00:29:03,448 --> 00:29:04,448 when all the jurisdictions endorse a plan, there was a 475 00:29:04,448 --> 00:29:05,448 goal of creating 6000 housing opportunities and among 476 00:29:05,448 --> 00:29:10,448 those there was a goal of new development a total number 477 00:29:10,448 --> 00:29:12,448 of new units. 478 00:29:18,448 --> 00:29:19,448 with the passage of measure a, we have begun to revise 479 00:29:19,448 --> 00:29:23,448 our production targets and one of those key targets is 480 00:29:23,448 --> 00:29:28,848 to the creation of between 1800-2000 units of permanent 481 00:29:34,448 --> 00:29:35,448 supportive housing for homeless persons with disabling 482 00:29:35,448 --> 00:29:39,448 conditions and other persons who are at risk of homeless 483 00:29:39,448 --> 00:29:41,848 and who are disabled. 484 00:29:43,448 --> 00:29:48,248 even before the proposed budget from the trump 485 00:29:49,448 --> 00:29:53,448 administration, we all face a lot of uncertainty. 486 00:29:53,448 --> 00:29:57,648 uncertainty from budget cuts, tax credit pricing, 487 00:29:59,388 --> 00:30:05,388 availability of impact fees a bell ability of land so 488 00:30:12,388 --> 00:30:13,388 even though we set these goals we have to work towards 489 00:30:13,388 --> 00:30:14,388 him and it takes a lot of effort. 490 00:30:14,388 --> 00:30:18,388 now, now that we have measure a this extreme partnership 491 00:30:18,388 --> 00:30:24,388 with the housing authority and the city path --san jose, 492 00:30:26,388 --> 00:30:27,388 now is our one opportunity to achieve those goals and I 493 00:30:27,388 --> 00:30:29,388 think that we all have to try to adopt and endorse those 494 00:30:29,388 --> 00:30:35,988 goals and then try to manage the resources that we have 495 00:30:41,388 --> 00:30:42,388 now and try, if necessary, get back in the future in 496 00:30:42,388 --> 00:30:45,388 order to meet those goals. 497 00:30:49,388 --> 00:30:50,388 we are thinking about 1900 units of permanent supporting 498 00:30:50,388 --> 00:30:51,388 housing. 499 00:30:51,388 --> 00:30:56,388 but more broadly, we think that there will be 4800 units 500 00:30:56,388 --> 00:31:01,188 of housing affordable to extremely low housing and 501 00:31:02,328 --> 00:31:03,328 persons and we think that over the next 10 years, we 502 00:31:03,328 --> 00:31:08,128 will have to finance or construct 120, hundred 40 new 503 00:31:10,328 --> 00:31:12,328 developments. 504 00:31:15,328 --> 00:31:20,328 our goal is to finalize the goals and finalize the 505 00:31:20,328 --> 00:31:26,328 program guidelines by the end of june an issue a notice 506 00:31:26,328 --> 00:31:27,328 of fighting ability and have the first issuance of the 507 00:31:27,328 --> 00:31:31,328 pound in 2017, while we can make commitments of the bond 508 00:31:31,328 --> 00:31:35,328 funds prior to september 2017 the first ability to 509 00:31:35,328 --> 00:31:38,328 convey funds will be in the fall. 510 00:31:38,328 --> 00:31:43,328 I am happy to answer any specific questions you have 511 00:31:43,328 --> 00:31:47,328 about the bond implementation or maybe come back on 512 00:31:47,328 --> 00:31:52,128 another time, talk to individual board members about 513 00:31:55,328 --> 00:31:56,328 what we are doing with our program in conjunction to the 514 00:31:56,328 --> 00:31:58,328 housing authority. 515 00:32:00,268 --> 00:32:01,268 >> okay. 516 00:32:01,268 --> 00:32:06,668 how you formulate the 1900, is that also include the 517 00:32:07,268 --> 00:32:13,268 state of the budgets as we speak, as of today? 518 00:32:15,268 --> 00:32:18,268 the budget cuts, the federal budget cuts? 519 00:32:18,268 --> 00:32:24,268 >> the goals are based on the numbers we set forth 520 00:32:27,268 --> 00:32:28,268 initially in the committee plan adjusted for the 521 00:32:28,268 --> 00:32:30,268 additional funding that we have to measure a. 522 00:32:30,268 --> 00:32:35,680 the question is, do we have enough money? 523 00:32:40,268 --> 00:32:41,268 I'm not sure, do have enough money at the state and 524 00:32:41,268 --> 00:32:42,268 federal levels? 525 00:32:42,268 --> 00:32:44,268 not sure. 526 00:32:49,268 --> 00:32:50,268 but I think, we have to set the goal and move towards it 527 00:32:50,268 --> 00:32:51,268 versus tronic calculate how much money we have and then 528 00:32:51,268 --> 00:32:52,268 setting the goal. 529 00:32:52,268 --> 00:32:54,268 because, well-- 530 00:32:58,268 --> 00:33:00,208 >> we understand the uncertainty. 531 00:33:00,208 --> 00:33:02,208 I would like to have it's possible and perhaps another 532 00:33:02,208 --> 00:33:07,208 meeting if you would be willing to take 30 minutes or so 533 00:33:07,208 --> 00:33:11,208 and actually agenda highs a little tutorial on what's 534 00:33:11,208 --> 00:33:13,208 going on. 535 00:33:13,208 --> 00:33:18,208 you've covered a lot of ground and shame on me have not 536 00:33:18,208 --> 00:33:21,208 been doing my homework what's going on with the county 537 00:33:21,208 --> 00:33:24,208 but I would like to know more about the different moving 538 00:33:24,208 --> 00:33:29,800 parts your 1900 looks like, something about the bond 539 00:33:38,208 --> 00:33:39,208 issue and so on. 540 00:33:39,208 --> 00:33:40,208 as context for us to be able to make informed decisions 541 00:33:40,208 --> 00:33:41,208 about what is it we want to do and can do to help you 542 00:33:41,208 --> 00:33:45,208 get, all of us could from here there. 543 00:33:45,208 --> 00:33:51,208 >> sure I'm happy to work with catherine and her staff. 544 00:33:57,208 --> 00:33:58,208 >> yes, that would be an opportunity for us to really 545 00:33:58,208 --> 00:33:59,148 put our arms around it because right now I not sure 546 00:33:59,148 --> 00:34:05,148 exactly how we arrived, how we get to that point. 547 00:34:11,148 --> 00:34:12,148 >> thank you. 548 00:34:12,148 --> 00:34:13,148 mdm. 549 00:34:13,148 --> 00:34:14,148 chair, I was wondering if we could move to the items for 550 00:34:14,148 --> 00:34:15,148 discussion b1 and b2 and postpone the house and 551 00:34:15,148 --> 00:34:19,148 department report because I know that we have one 552 00:34:19,148 --> 00:34:20,148 commissioner who has got to catch a flight at 11 553 00:34:20,148 --> 00:34:21,148 o'clock. 554 00:34:21,148 --> 00:34:23,148 >> okay. 555 00:34:30,148 --> 00:34:31,148 we are going to amend it and take items be one right now 556 00:34:31,148 --> 00:34:32,148 so we can make sure that we have a full contention of 557 00:34:32,148 --> 00:34:33,148 commissioners voting on this. 558 00:34:33,148 --> 00:34:35,148 I move approval. 559 00:34:39,148 --> 00:34:40,148 >> do we have a second? 560 00:34:40,148 --> 00:34:41,148 >> second. 561 00:34:41,148 --> 00:34:43,148 it's been moved and second any discussion on when a 562 00:34:43,148 --> 00:34:46,748 vista mobile home per park purchase? 563 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:04,880 we are talking about --it's page 41 in your packet a 564 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:05,880 goes through 113. 565 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:06,880 it's the entire purchase and sale agreement. 566 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:07,880 it was a lot of work on everyone's part including our 567 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:08,880 general counsel because our real estate council left the 568 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:10,880 country. 569 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:16,880 he got the fun part of finalizing the exhibits and on 570 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:17,880 the last nips and tax. 571 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:18,880 it was a lot of work. 572 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:19,880 >> commission anderson moved, drive a second? 573 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:20,880 commissioner o'neil. 574 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,880 we are not into discussion any questions? 575 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:25,880 >> just by way of comment we've heard a lot about this 576 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:29,880 already so I don't really need for any further 577 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:31,880 information myself. 578 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:36,880 I can go further and say that I think that this was a 579 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:42,880 very skillful piece of work very well executed those a 580 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:48,880 lotta dragon to slave from here to there to make this 581 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:49,880 happen it's a good thing it's a right thing to do. 582 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,880 the numbers right I'm not a number sky and this number 583 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:53,880 six we just fine. 584 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:55,880 I'm happy to make the motion and see the purchase go 585 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:57,880 forward. 586 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:00,280 >> okay. 587 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,280 anymore discussion? 588 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:05,280 okay. 589 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,280 >> I would like to say thank staffing catherine. 590 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:13,628 when this first came up and they raise issue and look 591 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:23,280 like we were never going to get there and so again, 592 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:24,280 kathryn, brian iyer staff that worked on it an amazing 593 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:25,280 job. 594 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:26,280 it's really a good result in a makes a housing authority 595 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:30,828 person separate dissipated in this look pretty good. 596 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:32,280 city of palo alto, that's amazing. 597 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:37,280 >> it was a collective effort and the commissioner is an 598 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:38,280 amazing ally. 599 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:43,428 >> I also wanted to comment, during the week affordable 600 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:52,280 housing celebrating that with this purchase agreement 601 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:53,280 was amazing. 602 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:54,280 it was a timing, the location, everything. 603 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:58,280 I want to commend staff as well on this entire process. 604 00:36:58,280 --> 00:36:58,968 it was not easy. 605 00:36:58,968 --> 00:37:01,968 >> this problem, the issue of when a beast a goes back 606 00:37:01,968 --> 00:37:05,968 so long ago and it's amazing to have, to be able to 607 00:37:05,968 --> 00:37:07,968 witness a solution. 608 00:37:13,968 --> 00:37:14,968 it's just amazing. 609 00:37:14,968 --> 00:37:15,968 I want to thank all of our allies and I want to thank 610 00:37:15,968 --> 00:37:20,768 supervisor for taking charge and releasing this through 611 00:37:21,968 --> 00:37:27,968 and really being a great ally for the housing authority. 612 00:37:29,968 --> 00:37:30,968 >> I'm not a religious man but I want to thank god that 613 00:37:30,968 --> 00:37:37,968 hud will give us a research for this to make up the 614 00:37:37,968 --> 00:37:38,968 difference between the city. 615 00:37:38,968 --> 00:37:45,568 >> we will need a roll call vote I believe on this. 616 00:37:59,968 --> 00:38:01,968 okay. 617 00:38:01,968 --> 00:38:07,968 we are now, on one, one for we will look at the except 618 00:38:07,968 --> 00:38:11,568 the report on the executive director. 619 00:38:14,968 --> 00:38:17,968 and improve recommendation for the hundred and 80 day 620 00:38:17,968 --> 00:38:19,968 expiration date. 621 00:38:19,968 --> 00:38:21,968 >> thank you. 622 00:38:23,968 --> 00:38:28,768 on page 5 the report on earth funding use. 623 00:38:30,968 --> 00:38:36,368 we are currently serving 94% of a prorated baseline and 624 00:38:36,968 --> 00:38:43,568 we are using let me turn the page, 96% of the funding 625 00:38:46,968 --> 00:38:50,568 that we currently receive from hot. 626 00:38:54,968 --> 00:38:55,968 we have 571 households with what we call a shopping 627 00:38:55,968 --> 00:38:57,968 voucher currently looking for housing and if we lease 628 00:38:57,968 --> 00:39:01,908 this up tomorrow we release-happen that's a little too 629 00:39:01,908 --> 00:39:04,908 close to comfort for us. 630 00:39:06,908 --> 00:39:07,908 and additional budget cuts which we do not know what the 631 00:39:07,908 --> 00:39:13,908 federal budget is going to land that we all are 632 00:39:13,908 --> 00:39:20,508 cognizant of the fact that we have a federal debt and 633 00:39:20,908 --> 00:39:21,908 interest payment on the tap that compete for the 634 00:39:21,908 --> 00:39:25,508 different budget priorities of this country. 635 00:39:26,908 --> 00:39:27,908 if you have a presidential agenda that wants to support 636 00:39:27,908 --> 00:39:30,908 defense expenditures that wants to support 637 00:39:30,908 --> 00:39:35,108 infrastructure expenditures we have seen the headlines 638 00:39:37,908 --> 00:39:39,908 that in 2018 the proposal is that we cut social service 639 00:39:39,908 --> 00:39:42,908 and the safety net dollars. 640 00:39:44,908 --> 00:39:47,908 one of the measures that we are recommending we did an 641 00:39:47,908 --> 00:39:53,308 analysis of the folks with the shopping voucher's and 642 00:39:58,848 --> 00:39:59,848 their people who had the voucher and have been looking 643 00:39:59,848 --> 00:40:00,848 for more than a year. 644 00:40:00,848 --> 00:40:01,848 burp folding it to full strategy number one that the 645 00:40:01,848 --> 00:40:03,848 board approve an agreement to provide housing search 646 00:40:03,848 --> 00:40:04,848 services for these folks who been looking for a very 647 00:40:04,848 --> 00:40:10,848 long time and that we also reinstitute the expiration of 648 00:40:16,848 --> 00:40:17,848 the voucher. 649 00:40:17,848 --> 00:40:18,848 in other words, every household cannot locate housing, 650 00:40:18,848 --> 00:40:19,848 we will take the voucher back and either give it to 651 00:40:19,848 --> 00:40:25,848 somebody else so we just take about your back because we 652 00:40:25,848 --> 00:40:26,848 don't have money to support that voucher. 653 00:40:26,848 --> 00:40:32,848 usually, when you have a radical coal cutting you can 654 00:40:32,848 --> 00:40:33,848 look at every shopping and pull that back. 655 00:40:33,848 --> 00:40:39,848 that's one of the first things that you would do. 656 00:40:40,848 --> 00:40:41,848 I don't know will have consensus in the federal level 657 00:40:41,848 --> 00:40:42,848 for extreme budget cut but this is just one of those 658 00:40:42,848 --> 00:40:48,848 things that we can put in place to get ready. 659 00:40:48,848 --> 00:40:49,848 what this measure does, it appointed disruptive cut down 660 00:40:49,848 --> 00:40:50,848 the line when the funds are cut just cutting off the 661 00:40:50,848 --> 00:40:52,848 voucher. 662 00:40:59,788 --> 00:41:00,788 instead, were proposing that we use our current 663 00:41:00,788 --> 00:41:01,788 resources to do what we can to help those find housing. 664 00:41:01,788 --> 00:41:07,788 our suspicion is that these folks have had their voucher 665 00:41:09,788 --> 00:41:10,788 for more than a year probably have some other barrier 666 00:41:10,788 --> 00:41:11,788 that is preventing them from being able to lease up were 667 00:41:11,788 --> 00:41:16,788 hoping that they'll be able to respond to that on two 668 00:41:16,788 --> 00:41:17,788 levels. 669 00:41:17,788 --> 00:41:18,788 number one, help them find housing because they been 670 00:41:18,788 --> 00:41:19,788 doing it and number two help to work through whatever 671 00:41:19,788 --> 00:41:25,188 barriers that may be preventing them from sealing the 672 00:41:26,788 --> 00:41:27,788 deal with the landlord. 673 00:41:27,788 --> 00:41:33,188 we are proposing, the standard hud limit is 60 days. 674 00:41:48,788 --> 00:41:49,788 where proposing 180 days. 675 00:41:49,788 --> 00:41:50,788 right now have no libido at all. 676 00:41:50,788 --> 00:41:51,788 every 60 days a household be required to check in on the 677 00:41:51,788 --> 00:41:52,788 housing search efforts which is a required to do now to 678 00:41:52,788 --> 00:41:53,788 keep their voucher, but after hundred 80 days their 679 00:41:53,788 --> 00:41:54,788 voucher would expire unless they have a reasonable 680 00:41:54,788 --> 00:41:55,788 accommodation request or some kind of mitigating 681 00:41:55,788 --> 00:41:57,788 circumstance. 682 00:41:58,728 --> 00:42:04,128 the proposed admin plan change is attached on pages 683 00:42:05,728 --> 00:42:07,728 118-122. 684 00:42:20,728 --> 00:42:21,728 if you have any questions, we have a policy staff here 685 00:42:21,728 --> 00:42:22,728 but we will try to answer them. 686 00:42:22,728 --> 00:42:23,728 >> can you comment on affordability? 687 00:42:23,728 --> 00:42:24,728 >> yes. 688 00:42:24,728 --> 00:42:25,728 it is possible if somebody has a housing voucher and 689 00:42:25,728 --> 00:42:26,728 they been searching for a very long time that they can 690 00:42:26,728 --> 00:42:32,728 use the voucher and poured out of the county and 691 00:42:33,728 --> 00:42:34,728 contract with another house already for housing 692 00:42:34,728 --> 00:42:35,728 resources may be more available. 693 00:42:35,728 --> 00:42:36,728 if the voucher is being issued to someone on the 694 00:42:36,728 --> 00:42:38,728 waitlist who is currently out of county, there's a 695 00:42:38,728 --> 00:42:41,728 requirement that they find an apartment in santa clara 696 00:42:41,728 --> 00:42:45,328 and live here for one year? 697 00:42:50,728 --> 00:42:51,728 yes, when year so that would be a portability 698 00:42:51,728 --> 00:42:52,728 restriction for those families but what we are focused 699 00:42:52,728 --> 00:42:56,728 on is a folks have been looking for a year. 700 00:42:56,728 --> 00:42:57,728 >> okay. 701 00:42:57,728 --> 00:42:58,668 any discussion? 702 00:42:58,668 --> 00:42:59,668 do we have a motion? 703 00:42:59,668 --> 00:43:01,668 sure. 704 00:43:05,668 --> 00:43:06,668 >> the number was in here, what was percent of the 705 00:43:06,668 --> 00:43:09,668 people who are looking that have been had a voucher for 706 00:43:09,668 --> 00:43:12,680 more than a year. 707 00:43:15,668 --> 00:43:19,868 janine would you like to come up? 708 00:43:23,668 --> 00:43:29,668 >> I think it's on page 116 is on page 11750 that are 709 00:43:36,668 --> 00:43:38,668 more than six months old. 710 00:43:38,668 --> 00:43:45,868 and I think of that amount about 50 or more are a year 711 00:43:50,668 --> 00:43:51,668 old. 712 00:43:51,668 --> 00:43:52,668 lesson 50. 713 00:43:52,668 --> 00:43:53,668 >> and I recall the first at this we had quite a few 714 00:43:53,668 --> 00:43:55,668 people from the community talking to us with a problem 715 00:43:55,668 --> 00:44:01,668 when there are landlords willing to rent and we should 716 00:44:02,608 --> 00:44:03,608 be taken the voucher away. 717 00:44:03,608 --> 00:44:08,608 we had to three meetings where that was an issue. 718 00:44:08,608 --> 00:44:12,608 and then we came to this proposal that we have now. 719 00:44:12,608 --> 00:44:13,608 I'm not sure, are we going to go back to people coming 720 00:44:13,608 --> 00:44:15,608 in. 721 00:44:24,608 --> 00:44:25,608 people that cannot find a place? 722 00:44:25,608 --> 00:44:26,608 >> that's a good question but a few things have changed. 723 00:44:26,608 --> 00:44:28,608 our payment standard is increase over competitive. 724 00:44:28,608 --> 00:44:29,608 our rental market is softening a little but it is 725 00:44:29,608 --> 00:44:30,608 softening. 726 00:44:30,608 --> 00:44:36,608 the county and I think the county adopted an ordinance 727 00:44:37,608 --> 00:44:43,800 against discrimination on source of income and I think 728 00:44:46,608 --> 00:44:47,608 other cities and other communities are looking to also 729 00:44:47,608 --> 00:44:48,608 reinforce that and then we also have the issue of just 730 00:44:48,608 --> 00:44:52,608 cause evictions now being local ordinances that will 731 00:44:52,608 --> 00:44:53,608 support the retention voucher. 732 00:44:53,608 --> 00:44:56,608 we've had some change, I cannot tell you that people, 733 00:44:56,608 --> 00:45:03,808 complain but there is a point if we don't have money, we 734 00:45:05,548 --> 00:45:06,548 do not have money. 735 00:45:06,548 --> 00:45:07,548 if people are not using these funds there may be 736 00:45:07,548 --> 00:45:11,148 somebody waiting in line who can. 737 00:45:12,548 --> 00:45:13,548 >> the way I understand it if somebody was at the six 738 00:45:13,548 --> 00:45:14,548 month. 739 00:45:14,548 --> 00:45:17,548 then what they be assigned to help them with this help 740 00:45:17,548 --> 00:45:21,748 them before they had their six months? 741 00:45:28,548 --> 00:45:29,548 >> the idea is for those people who already have about 742 00:45:29,548 --> 00:45:30,548 your more than six months, they will get another 60 day 743 00:45:30,548 --> 00:45:34,548 extension and we wouldn't just cut them off because they 744 00:45:34,548 --> 00:45:35,548 had the six months. 745 00:45:35,548 --> 00:45:37,548 during that time that will work to try to get help and 746 00:45:37,548 --> 00:45:39,548 find a house. 747 00:45:41,548 --> 00:45:45,548 moving forward, if the board adopts is, the bad men plan 748 00:45:45,548 --> 00:45:51,548 moving forward any new vouchers issued would have a six 749 00:45:52,548 --> 00:45:53,548 month maximum. 750 00:45:53,548 --> 00:45:54,548 >> nobody would just have their voucher pulled out 751 00:45:54,548 --> 00:46:00,548 getting notice or opportunity to work to find a place 752 00:46:04,488 --> 00:46:05,488 and work with some of our stuff? 753 00:46:05,488 --> 00:46:06,488 >> that is correct. 754 00:46:06,488 --> 00:46:07,488 >> commissioner, I'm good have to leave but I in support 755 00:46:07,488 --> 00:46:10,488 of trying this I would like us to understand after we 756 00:46:10,488 --> 00:46:11,488 implemented. 757 00:46:11,488 --> 00:46:17,488 shall we approve it after about six months to understand 758 00:46:19,488 --> 00:46:20,488 this is disproportionately affecting special needs 759 00:46:20,488 --> 00:46:21,488 population? 760 00:46:21,488 --> 00:46:26,488 I would like to know what these barriers are we should 761 00:46:26,488 --> 00:46:32,488 know for example if it's people that have severe mental 762 00:46:40,488 --> 00:46:41,488 illness that that makes using this voucher. 763 00:46:41,488 --> 00:46:42,488 I think it would be worth monitoring and reporting back. 764 00:46:42,488 --> 00:46:43,488 I do not know when you're going to vote but I don't know 765 00:46:43,488 --> 00:46:47,880 I can say yes right now. 766 00:46:48,488 --> 00:46:49,488 >> it may make a comment. 767 00:46:49,488 --> 00:46:51,888 go ahead commissioner anderson. 768 00:46:54,488 --> 00:46:57,488 >> I just wanted to say what jennifer just said and even 769 00:46:57,488 --> 00:47:03,488 further and say wanting to get feedback as to how 770 00:47:06,428 --> 00:47:12,428 effective you going to pay that amount to have folks 771 00:47:14,428 --> 00:47:15,428 assisted. 772 00:47:15,428 --> 00:47:17,428 we want to know is that rules along whether or not it's 773 00:47:17,428 --> 00:47:19,428 working or not. 774 00:47:22,428 --> 00:47:23,428 how much bank are we getting for our buck. 775 00:47:23,428 --> 00:47:27,428 having said that they asked some good questions to me 776 00:47:27,428 --> 00:47:34,428 and that is that a, there's a good reason to do it. 777 00:47:34,428 --> 00:47:35,428 we got a limited resource and there's always folks who 778 00:47:35,428 --> 00:47:38,428 are fine for the resource. 779 00:47:39,428 --> 00:47:44,428 how long is long enough to have no limit seems to me 780 00:47:44,428 --> 00:47:45,428 does not make any sense at all given the changes in the 781 00:47:45,428 --> 00:47:50,428 marketplace and going hundred 10% of the numbers and all 782 00:47:50,428 --> 00:47:52,428 that. 783 00:47:52,428 --> 00:47:58,428 it feels to me that this is another skillful effort to 784 00:47:58,428 --> 00:48:00,428 look at a hard question and come up with something that 785 00:48:00,428 --> 00:48:02,428 makes sense. 786 00:48:05,428 --> 00:48:06,428 it could be difficult for some people but then at the 787 00:48:06,428 --> 00:48:11,428 same time off from a hand in finding a place to stay. 788 00:48:11,428 --> 00:48:17,428 and then some metrics as we look over the shoulder. 789 00:48:17,428 --> 00:48:21,280 I move that we go along. 790 00:48:30,428 --> 00:48:31,428 >> you move approval? 791 00:48:31,428 --> 00:48:32,428 do we have a second? 792 00:48:32,428 --> 00:48:33,428 >> we will still continue the discussion. 793 00:48:33,428 --> 00:48:35,828 okay, commissioner o'neill seconds. 794 00:48:36,428 --> 00:48:37,428 commissioner gardner? 795 00:48:37,428 --> 00:48:38,428 >> I just wanted to comment and bring forth the idea I 796 00:48:38,428 --> 00:48:43,428 guess the question is are a landlord incentives can they 797 00:48:43,428 --> 00:48:47,628 be applied to the hundred and 50 recipients? 798 00:48:51,428 --> 00:48:52,428 >> our landlord incentive is if the landlord leases from 799 00:48:52,428 --> 00:48:57,228 one section to another section tenant, were encouraging 800 00:48:59,368 --> 00:49:00,368 aren't senate tip is to encourage ongoing leasing to 801 00:49:00,368 --> 00:49:03,968 section 8 that's the way it works. 802 00:49:13,368 --> 00:49:14,368 I think we start going into other kinds of landlord 803 00:49:14,368 --> 00:49:15,368 incentives to make connor other consequences which we 804 00:49:15,368 --> 00:49:16,368 heard a lot about this morning. 805 00:49:16,368 --> 00:49:20,368 I would be cautious to start throwing those out there. 806 00:49:20,368 --> 00:49:21,368 the thing about this, they been working in the community 807 00:49:21,368 --> 00:49:26,768 on some county projects to serve very difficult, special 808 00:49:28,368 --> 00:49:29,368 need population will have a little difficulty 809 00:49:29,368 --> 00:49:31,368 navigating. 810 00:49:31,368 --> 00:49:35,368 I think that they have contacts are landlords they 811 00:49:35,368 --> 00:49:41,368 specialize in the mom-and-pop and I hopeful if there is 812 00:49:41,368 --> 00:49:44,368 a path forward for these folks that this is the 813 00:49:44,368 --> 00:49:48,368 organization that can help them get there. 814 00:49:48,368 --> 00:49:52,368 >> the conclusion to that would be, it would be 815 00:49:52,368 --> 00:49:56,568 interesting and helpful to understand that relationship 816 00:50:02,308 --> 00:50:03,308 between the search in the landlord and possibly getting 817 00:50:03,308 --> 00:50:06,308 some idea of what that difficulty was in the permanent 818 00:50:06,308 --> 00:50:11,708 housing, between the shopper and finding that right fit 819 00:50:15,308 --> 00:50:16,308 for the landlord. 820 00:50:16,308 --> 00:50:21,308 >> when we bring the report back in six months perhaps 821 00:50:21,308 --> 00:50:22,308 we can have them come to the meeting and describe what 822 00:50:22,308 --> 00:50:24,308 they seem. 823 00:50:25,308 --> 00:50:28,308 >> I have one other question. 824 00:50:40,308 --> 00:50:41,308 are all the people with vouchers now shopping, not just 825 00:50:41,308 --> 00:50:42,308 want to have had them for a year or even six months but 826 00:50:42,308 --> 00:50:43,308 are all the people who have certificates now regardless 827 00:50:43,308 --> 00:50:44,308 of the time that the panel are they going to be able to 828 00:50:44,308 --> 00:50:46,308 access this? 829 00:50:49,308 --> 00:50:56,508 >> the way we have a currently is that we are going to 830 00:50:57,308 --> 00:50:58,248 have them focus on the people who have their voucher for 831 00:50:58,248 --> 00:50:59,248 six months or longer. 832 00:50:59,248 --> 00:51:04,248 and then moving forward anybody who gets their voucher, 833 00:51:04,248 --> 00:51:05,248 once it hit that hundred and 20 day mark they have 60 834 00:51:05,248 --> 00:51:11,248 days ago and that 60 days to be concentrated with this 835 00:51:14,248 --> 00:51:15,248 access. 836 00:51:15,248 --> 00:51:16,248 >> one thing that you bear in mind the summer is a big 837 00:51:16,248 --> 00:51:18,248 moving month. 838 00:51:21,248 --> 00:51:22,248 there's a lot of activity in the summer months and there 839 00:51:22,248 --> 00:51:23,248 will be a lot of families would shopping vouchers were 840 00:51:23,248 --> 00:51:26,248 going to be moving because that's what they do. 841 00:51:26,248 --> 00:51:27,248 we are targeting those that have had their voucher for a 842 00:51:27,248 --> 00:51:29,248 very long time. 843 00:51:32,248 --> 00:51:33,248 >> all right, it's been with second and we ready for the 844 00:51:33,248 --> 00:51:38,648 question, all in favor first of all it's two-part. 845 00:51:39,248 --> 00:51:44,480 reinstate the hundred 80 expiration date as well as 846 00:51:46,248 --> 00:51:47,248 delegate authority to our executive director to contract 847 00:51:47,248 --> 00:51:50,248 with a not to exceed $650,000. 848 00:51:53,248 --> 00:51:57,248 that's the two-part motion all in favor say I? 849 00:51:57,248 --> 00:51:59,248 that passes. 850 00:52:01,188 --> 00:52:05,388 now let me just ask you this. 851 00:52:07,188 --> 00:52:08,188 we have a time certain at 11. 852 00:52:08,188 --> 00:52:15,388 I was wondering if we can, we have a time certain at 11. 853 00:52:16,188 --> 00:52:17,188 were going to take a five-minute break and that will 854 00:52:17,188 --> 00:52:23,188 take up the consent calendar and after that the video 855 00:52:23,188 --> 00:52:24,188 before 11? 856 00:52:24,188 --> 00:52:26,188 okay, can we do the video? 857 00:52:26,188 --> 00:52:29,188 >> you have three other things on your business 858 00:52:29,188 --> 00:52:30,188 calendar. 859 00:52:30,188 --> 00:52:32,188 >> I know. 860 00:52:32,188 --> 00:52:34,188 >> we can do the video any time. 861 00:52:34,188 --> 00:52:38,988 >> can we do the video-- I guess after. 862 00:52:46,188 --> 00:52:47,188 >> that is three business items shouldn't take too long. 863 00:52:47,188 --> 00:52:50,188 if you want to finish the condor. 864 00:52:50,188 --> 00:52:51,188 >> then we can do the other three quickly and then the 865 00:52:51,188 --> 00:52:53,188 video? 866 00:52:57,188 --> 00:52:58,128 you think we can do it till 11 o'clock? 867 00:52:58,128 --> 00:53:03,528 >> the thing about a time certain you cannot stop 868 00:53:05,128 --> 00:53:06,128 earlier but you have to start 11. 869 00:53:06,128 --> 00:53:07,128 it we starting 11:10 that would be okay. 870 00:53:07,128 --> 00:53:11,328 >> were going to have a five-minute break. 871 00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:16,121 okay. 872 00:53:16,121 --> 00:53:17,121 we will call the meeting back to order and will take up 873 00:53:17,121 --> 00:53:19,121 the consent calendar. 874 00:53:19,121 --> 00:53:24,521 any questions on the consent calendar so we can 875 00:53:26,121 --> 00:53:27,121 entertain a motion. 876 00:53:27,121 --> 00:53:30,121 >> we can take two minutes we have amanda gallo one of 877 00:53:30,121 --> 00:53:34,121 our policy and less and she wanted to highlight the 878 00:53:34,121 --> 00:53:36,521 baseline and funding utilization. 879 00:53:42,121 --> 00:53:43,121 >> good morning board. 880 00:53:43,121 --> 00:53:44,121 >> what page, what item? 881 00:53:44,121 --> 00:53:46,121 >> it starts on page 5. 882 00:53:46,121 --> 00:53:47,121 good morning. 883 00:53:47,121 --> 00:53:53,121 I amanda gallo I'm a senior analyst and you might 884 00:53:55,610 --> 00:53:56,610 recognize my name I'm usually the one that submits a 885 00:53:56,610 --> 00:53:59,610 housing department reports each month. 886 00:54:10,610 --> 00:54:11,610 we made a few changes based on what we found out from 887 00:54:11,610 --> 00:54:14,610 the hot proration of our yearly budget. 888 00:54:14,610 --> 00:54:20,661 under and tw agreement had the term is what we are 889 00:54:21,610 --> 00:54:25,610 provided yearly for funding and this amount is reduced 890 00:54:25,610 --> 00:54:29,261 or prorated based on congressional each year. 891 00:54:31,610 --> 00:54:35,610 four 2017, were projecting to be probated at 94% of 892 00:54:35,610 --> 00:54:37,610 funding. 893 00:54:38,610 --> 00:54:44,610 if we look at her baseline including the project base 894 00:54:45,610 --> 00:54:48,610 bouncer project at full funding is 16,671. 895 00:54:48,610 --> 00:54:53,461 they we take 94% of this baseline, we will have 15,670. 896 00:54:57,100 --> 00:55:02,100 we wanted to do this to get a realistic picture of what 897 00:55:02,100 --> 00:55:07,401 our actual lease rate is based on the proration. 898 00:55:10,100 --> 00:55:11,100 it will use a prorated baseline our lease separate 899 00:55:11,100 --> 00:55:14,100 including project base vouchers is 91%. 900 00:55:16,100 --> 00:55:19,100 also, wanted to highlight --bam I'm sorry. 901 00:55:19,100 --> 00:55:22,100 I was trying to do the math. 902 00:55:22,100 --> 00:55:27,401 the numbers you gave us-- I seem different numbers. 903 00:55:41,100 --> 00:55:42,100 >> usually we try to put in our special program report. 904 00:55:42,100 --> 00:55:43,100 you will notice the numbers are little lower in the 905 00:55:43,100 --> 00:55:47,100 first section but to give an overall I guess a view of 906 00:55:47,100 --> 00:55:48,100 what the housing choice voucher is we wanted to at the 907 00:55:48,100 --> 00:55:50,100 project base voucher. 908 00:55:51,941 --> 00:55:54,941 it just goes up if you remove the hundred and 30, the 909 00:55:54,941 --> 00:55:59,741 project base vouchers are prorated lease separate is 910 00:56:05,941 --> 00:56:06,941 90%. 911 00:56:06,941 --> 00:56:07,941 if you add them in a goes up to 91%. 912 00:56:07,941 --> 00:56:09,941 >> thank you. 913 00:56:11,941 --> 00:56:17,941 we also wanted to highlight, we are at 96%, using 96% of 914 00:56:17,941 --> 00:56:23,341 our monthly hat funding, it release up to 571 shopping 915 00:56:23,941 --> 00:56:26,941 vouchers will be at 100% of the funding. 916 00:56:26,941 --> 00:56:32,941 this is something to be aware of in the upcoming month. 917 00:56:32,941 --> 00:56:35,941 this, just in case of a kos agency has some curb. 918 00:56:35,941 --> 00:56:37,941 any questions? 919 00:56:38,941 --> 00:56:39,941 >> no. 920 00:56:39,941 --> 00:56:41,941 thank you. 921 00:56:42,941 --> 00:56:50,141 we look at this on the review but I didn't say anything 922 00:56:57,881 --> 00:56:58,881 and I did leave the room confused but now I get it. 923 00:56:58,881 --> 00:56:59,881 >> one of the reasons why this is important, one of our 924 00:56:59,881 --> 00:57:00,881 requirements as a moving to work agency's that were 925 00:57:00,881 --> 00:57:06,281 required under the law the federal law, to serve 926 00:57:09,881 --> 00:57:10,881 substantially the same number families as we would if we 927 00:57:10,881 --> 00:57:11,881 did not have a single fund flexibility. 928 00:57:11,881 --> 00:57:12,881 the single fun flexibility allows us to make up for some 929 00:57:12,881 --> 00:57:16,881 of the deficits that comes to us as a result of the very 930 00:57:16,881 --> 00:57:21,810 low proration on the administrative fee side. 931 00:57:31,881 --> 00:57:32,881 what amanda didn't highlight is that while congress may 932 00:57:32,881 --> 00:57:33,881 appropriate 94% on the rental side, they're only 933 00:57:33,881 --> 00:57:34,881 appropriating 77% on the admin fee side. 934 00:57:34,881 --> 00:57:35,881 and then you only are entitled to those funds once the 935 00:57:35,881 --> 00:57:37,881 household is lease. 936 00:57:37,881 --> 00:57:43,281 there is a lot of work to be done. 937 00:57:43,881 --> 00:57:44,881 in the last motion we approve expenditure of funds to 938 00:57:44,881 --> 00:57:47,881 help family search for housing. 939 00:57:50,881 --> 00:57:51,881 that is something that we pull out a rental funds in 940 00:57:51,881 --> 00:57:52,881 order make that happen. 941 00:57:52,881 --> 00:57:58,881 we will be highlighting this more and we talked about 942 00:57:59,881 --> 00:58:00,881 the possibility of sketching-I've been scheduling a 943 00:58:00,881 --> 00:58:01,881 special meeting and we'll talk about this more at that 944 00:58:01,881 --> 00:58:03,881 time. 945 00:58:04,881 --> 00:58:05,881 the second thing I want to highlight is what were 946 00:58:05,881 --> 00:58:10,810 operating under a 94% proration the appropriation for 947 00:58:10,881 --> 00:58:15,881 2017 was finally made hud is currently paying us under 948 00:58:15,881 --> 00:58:19,881 that 94% proration but based on the budget that was 949 00:58:19,881 --> 00:58:22,881 approved for 2017 we do not have by final numbers we 950 00:58:22,881 --> 00:58:29,881 think it may inch up a pointed to seward waiting to get 951 00:58:29,881 --> 00:58:30,881 those numbers in. 952 00:58:30,881 --> 00:58:34,481 we will not even talk about 2018. 953 00:58:38,881 --> 00:58:39,881 >> okay, do have it any other questions regarding the 954 00:58:39,881 --> 00:58:43,481 consent and the house and report? 955 00:58:44,881 --> 00:58:45,881 >> I like this report we asked for more information a 956 00:58:45,881 --> 00:58:48,881 long time ago when you expand the report and because the 957 00:58:48,881 --> 00:58:54,881 math is something a little complicated if you're not top 958 00:58:58,821 --> 00:58:59,821 of it it but you give us enough information so we do our 959 00:58:59,821 --> 00:59:00,821 homework we can read this memo and forget was going on 960 00:59:00,821 --> 00:59:02,821 and were following it month-to-month for getting in a 961 00:59:02,821 --> 00:59:07,821 real time you get some good graphics and here. 962 00:59:07,821 --> 00:59:13,221 this is your product primarily good on you amanda. 963 00:59:16,821 --> 00:59:21,821 >> I did have a question as far as the page 7. 964 00:59:21,821 --> 00:59:26,210 are we going to want to that. 965 00:59:28,821 --> 00:59:29,821 >> we normally don't discuss this report in detail but 966 00:59:29,821 --> 00:59:31,821 it a question? 967 00:59:37,821 --> 00:59:38,821 >> on april and reading this, is that as of april or 968 00:59:38,821 --> 00:59:39,821 actually in the month of april. 969 00:59:39,821 --> 00:59:43,421 >> during the month of april, yes. 970 00:59:46,821 --> 00:59:47,821 >> I wanted to commend the finance reports as well. 971 00:59:47,821 --> 00:59:53,761 it was a really thorough description of where we are and 972 00:59:53,761 --> 00:59:59,761 I know the future we may not have these wonderful 973 01:00:01,761 --> 01:00:02,761 figures but I commend you. 974 01:00:02,761 --> 01:00:03,761 I think the figures are great and looks like we are in a 975 01:00:03,761 --> 01:00:04,761 solid financial, good financial ground here. 976 01:00:04,761 --> 01:00:06,761 thank you. 977 01:00:10,761 --> 01:00:16,161 and thank the staff also for pulling that together. 978 01:00:16,761 --> 01:00:17,761 okay. 979 01:00:17,761 --> 01:00:18,761 I will entertain a motion for the consent calendar? 980 01:00:18,761 --> 01:00:24,161 okay, we move approval do we have a second? 981 01:00:27,761 --> 01:00:28,761 commissioner anderson seconds all in favor of approving 982 01:00:28,761 --> 01:00:31,761 the consent calendar say I? 983 01:00:33,761 --> 01:00:34,761 it passes. 984 01:00:34,761 --> 01:00:39,561 we will move on to items be three. 985 01:00:41,761 --> 01:00:43,761 starting on page 123. 986 01:00:44,761 --> 01:00:46,761 the bylaws. 987 01:00:48,761 --> 01:00:50,761 >> good morning. 988 01:00:53,701 --> 01:00:59,701 this is a result of previous direction by the board, 989 01:01:01,701 --> 01:01:07,701 first item will be asking is to adopt a resolution 17 990 01:01:08,701 --> 01:01:09,701 07 which would amend and restate the bylaws. 991 01:01:09,701 --> 01:01:11,701 it's a complete restatement. 992 01:01:11,701 --> 01:01:18,301 the changes to the bylaws are set forth on page 124 the 993 01:01:18,701 --> 01:01:21,701 principal reason for bringing at this time was at the 994 01:01:21,701 --> 01:01:25,701 board's direction, we were told that we were renaming 995 01:01:25,701 --> 01:01:32,901 the agency and the name of the agency is in the bylaws. 996 01:01:33,701 --> 01:01:37,701 the first and foremost changes to santa clara county 997 01:01:37,701 --> 01:01:41,301 housing authority that change becomes effective 998 01:01:52,641 --> 01:01:53,641 immediately upon your vote. 999 01:01:53,641 --> 01:01:54,641 all documents brought forth from that time will now be 1000 01:01:54,641 --> 01:01:55,641 in the name of the new agency and then other changes 1001 01:01:55,641 --> 01:01:57,641 that need to be made with the name change will be rolled 1002 01:01:57,641 --> 01:01:58,641 out accordingly with the various outside parties over 1003 01:01:58,641 --> 01:02:01,410 the next several months. 1004 01:02:04,641 --> 01:02:10,641 in terms, there's a couple of changes to the agenda. 1005 01:02:16,641 --> 01:02:17,641 the names of the agenda and some the structure on the 1006 01:02:17,641 --> 01:02:18,641 agenda at the other kind of significant change for the 1007 01:02:18,641 --> 01:02:19,641 way you do business, you no longer will need to do a 1008 01:02:19,641 --> 01:02:25,410 rollcall vote unless it's at the chairs discretion if 1009 01:02:33,641 --> 01:02:34,641 the chair would like a rollcall vote or if you try a 1010 01:02:34,641 --> 01:02:35,641 voice vote and it appears that there is some no votes 1011 01:02:35,641 --> 01:02:36,641 and you want to make sure you want to know what the 1012 01:02:36,641 --> 01:02:37,641 count of the vote is then you can say, let's do this as 1013 01:02:37,641 --> 01:02:38,641 a rollcall vote. 1014 01:02:38,641 --> 01:02:40,641 once you do this, you won't do a rollcall vote to adopt 1015 01:02:40,641 --> 01:02:42,641 a resolution. 1016 01:02:44,641 --> 01:02:49,441 that will make a little bit more streamlining. 1017 01:03:00,581 --> 01:03:01,581 the next resolution is amending your previous yearly 1018 01:03:01,581 --> 01:03:02,581 resolution that sets the schedule of meetings that 1019 01:03:02,581 --> 01:03:03,581 resolution set all the meetings on tuesdays which been 1020 01:03:03,581 --> 01:03:08,581 the tradition for a very long time here but, you have 1021 01:03:08,581 --> 01:03:09,581 previously directed that we should look at go forward 1022 01:03:09,581 --> 01:03:11,581 with moving it to thursdays. 1023 01:03:11,581 --> 01:03:13,581 this'll formalize that in the new dates are in the 1024 01:03:13,581 --> 01:03:15,581 resolution. 1025 01:03:27,581 --> 01:03:28,581 the fourth thursday of every month beginning august. 1026 01:03:28,581 --> 01:03:29,581 >> we will work, we gave you a calendar last year and I 1027 01:03:29,581 --> 01:03:30,581 do not know be used it but hasn't blocks that show you 1028 01:03:30,581 --> 01:03:31,581 when were open and close. 1029 01:03:31,581 --> 01:03:34,581 do you have a great we have one ready. 1030 01:03:34,581 --> 01:03:35,581 >> great. 1031 01:03:35,581 --> 01:03:37,981 that is very useful. 1032 01:03:42,581 --> 01:03:44,581 thank you. 1033 01:04:00,521 --> 01:04:01,521 >> the final actual rescue to take his adoption of the 1034 01:04:01,521 --> 01:04:02,521 resolution which adopts a public record access policy 1035 01:04:02,521 --> 01:04:03,521 for the board itself. 1036 01:04:03,521 --> 01:04:04,521 this is for you, and this is in response to california 1037 01:04:04,521 --> 01:04:08,521 supreme court case which clarified that the duties of 1038 01:04:08,521 --> 01:04:11,521 public officials when you get a public richard-haven't 1039 01:04:11,521 --> 01:04:17,521 what is considered a public record act versus not and 1040 01:04:20,521 --> 01:04:21,521 basically the supreme court has decided that it doesn't 1041 01:04:21,521 --> 01:04:22,521 matter where the record resides whether it's in your 1042 01:04:22,521 --> 01:04:27,921 personal device or e-mail if it involves a public 1043 01:04:31,521 --> 01:04:32,521 business, some matter before you then it really is a 1044 01:04:32,521 --> 01:04:35,521 public record that may be subject to disclosure. 1045 01:04:35,521 --> 01:04:38,521 there's rules of what's exempt from disclosure it's just 1046 01:04:38,521 --> 01:04:42,521 for the have to look to find public records. 1047 01:04:42,521 --> 01:04:49,121 we have a full policy that basically gives you a device 1048 01:04:50,521 --> 01:04:51,461 and you are receiving an ipad, we encourage you to keep 1049 01:04:51,461 --> 01:04:53,461 all your records related to this commission on that 1050 01:04:53,461 --> 01:04:58,261 device e-mail and whatever other communications you may 1051 01:04:59,461 --> 01:05:00,461 have. 1052 01:05:00,461 --> 01:05:05,461 that way, if you receive something let's say on your 1053 01:05:05,461 --> 01:05:08,461 home e-mail we encourage you to just forward it to your 1054 01:05:08,461 --> 01:05:14,461 commission e-mail and then all the records that you have 1055 01:05:22,461 --> 01:05:23,461 pertaining to this commission should all be the same 1056 01:05:23,461 --> 01:05:24,461 place and then we can find that were not have to go ask 1057 01:05:24,461 --> 01:05:27,461 you to look for your personal stuff. 1058 01:05:27,461 --> 01:05:28,461 >> okay. 1059 01:05:28,461 --> 01:05:33,861 let's open up the discussion anyone have any discussions 1060 01:05:35,461 --> 01:05:36,461 regards to the bylaws or changes? 1061 01:05:36,461 --> 01:05:37,461 >> I have a recommendation. 1062 01:05:37,461 --> 01:05:41,461 on page 129, section 5 that first paragraph that talks 1063 01:05:41,461 --> 01:05:43,861 about basically, how to 1064 01:05:49,461 --> 01:05:53,661 >> is removing a commissioner without a cause? 1065 01:05:54,401 --> 01:05:55,401 >> I would like to delete it. 1066 01:05:55,401 --> 01:05:58,401 it's repetitive and already stated 1067 01:06:03,401 --> 01:06:04,401 >> mme. 1068 01:06:04,401 --> 01:06:05,401 chair if I may offer a letter background for the rest 1069 01:06:05,401 --> 01:06:06,401 the board. 1070 01:06:06,401 --> 01:06:07,401 this was when I was serving as general counsel outside 1071 01:06:07,401 --> 01:06:09,401 counsel. 1072 01:06:12,401 --> 01:06:13,401 there was some discussion on the commission about the 1073 01:06:13,401 --> 01:06:15,401 ability to have a commissioner removed for failure to 1074 01:06:15,401 --> 01:06:17,401 attend meetings. 1075 01:06:25,401 --> 01:06:26,401 only the board of supervisors as you point authority has 1076 01:06:26,401 --> 01:06:29,401 the ability to remove a commissioner and you can only be 1077 01:06:29,401 --> 01:06:31,401 removed for cause. 1078 01:06:46,401 --> 01:06:47,401 at that time, it was the will of the commission that you 1079 01:06:47,401 --> 01:06:48,401 added an extra layer and you would only make a referral 1080 01:06:48,401 --> 01:06:49,401 to the board of supervisors if due process had been 1081 01:06:49,401 --> 01:06:50,401 afforded here. 1082 01:06:50,401 --> 01:06:51,341 it actually adds a second layer of due process and it 1083 01:06:51,341 --> 01:06:58,341 would take longer if you have a problem and you need to 1084 01:06:58,341 --> 01:06:59,341 remove a commissioner it would take a longer. 1085 01:06:59,341 --> 01:07:00,341 time for the commissioner to be removed. 1086 01:07:00,341 --> 01:07:03,341 I not sending that attendance would be a reason because 1087 01:07:03,341 --> 01:07:04,341 I don't know if that would be a cause but I suggesting 1088 01:07:04,341 --> 01:07:09,741 that if you have a problem with inappropriate conduct, 1089 01:07:10,341 --> 01:07:16,341 this would actually lengthen the time and have more due 1090 01:07:21,341 --> 01:07:22,341 process as opposed to perhaps the board chair or 1091 01:07:22,341 --> 01:07:23,341 somebody approaching the board of supervisors and saying 1092 01:07:23,341 --> 01:07:24,341 I think we have an issue. 1093 01:07:24,341 --> 01:07:25,341 I wanted to let you know the kind of a background for 1094 01:07:25,341 --> 01:07:30,341 that language it was added but it is covered in state 1095 01:07:30,341 --> 01:07:31,341 law. 1096 01:07:31,341 --> 01:07:33,341 if you want to remove it, that is fine. 1097 01:07:33,341 --> 01:07:35,341 >> I agree with you. 1098 01:07:35,341 --> 01:07:42,541 the state law does make it for cause before the board of 1099 01:07:44,341 --> 01:07:45,341 supervisors. 1100 01:07:45,341 --> 01:07:50,141 and I think it could go several ways. 1101 01:07:53,341 --> 01:07:54,341 if there was a perception that someone wasn't doing 1102 01:07:54,341 --> 01:07:55,341 their job or someone had a psychotic break or something 1103 01:07:55,341 --> 01:08:00,341 like that then there's a lot of ways we can do it but 1104 01:08:00,341 --> 01:08:05,341 the chair can discuss it to the board of supervisors or 1105 01:08:05,341 --> 01:08:09,541 whatever enemy commissioner felt that was inappropriate 1106 01:08:17,341 --> 01:08:18,341 action I suppose a commissioner could asked them to look 1107 01:08:18,341 --> 01:08:19,341 at it or whatever. 1108 01:08:19,341 --> 01:08:20,341 I do not think we need a rule for it. 1109 01:08:20,341 --> 01:08:21,341 I don't like the role I prefer something it's ever 1110 01:08:21,341 --> 01:08:27,341 happened but if somehow-- maybe not doing their job but 1111 01:08:30,341 --> 01:08:32,741 that some significant problems. 1112 01:08:35,341 --> 01:08:36,341 you gotta go to the county anyway. 1113 01:08:36,341 --> 01:08:40,541 and I trust just go do it. 1114 01:08:45,341 --> 01:08:46,341 >> commissioner o'neill? 1115 01:08:46,341 --> 01:08:48,341 >> we did not talk about this that much had bylaws 1116 01:08:48,341 --> 01:08:50,341 meeting. 1117 01:08:51,281 --> 01:08:55,281 I do see actually see a benefit here and that it allows 1118 01:08:55,281 --> 01:09:01,281 this board to have that discussion about, let's say lack 1119 01:09:06,281 --> 01:09:07,281 of attendance. 1120 01:09:07,281 --> 01:09:13,881 before he goes to the county board of supervisors it was 1121 01:09:14,281 --> 01:09:15,281 an opportunity to sort of may be clean up our own house 1122 01:09:15,281 --> 01:09:16,281 issues before it becomes a public issue. 1123 01:09:16,281 --> 01:09:21,681 once a goes to the board --whichever commissioner were 1124 01:09:22,281 --> 01:09:27,810 suggesting perhaps my not had fully attended the 1125 01:09:28,281 --> 01:09:33,681 meetings and prevented us from getting a quorum, perhaps 1126 01:09:34,281 --> 01:09:35,281 might be supported by whichever county board member that 1127 01:09:35,281 --> 01:09:38,281 appointed him and then it would lead to kind of a 1128 01:09:38,281 --> 01:09:44,281 dysfunction whereas it we didn't here at first it would 1129 01:09:46,281 --> 01:09:47,281 go to the board supervisors with our recommendations 1130 01:09:47,281 --> 01:09:48,281 commissioner so-and-so had not be intending. 1131 01:09:48,281 --> 01:09:54,221 I do see, much you want to vote on it right now having 1132 01:09:54,221 --> 01:10:00,221 doing it much thought but as I read it and try to think 1133 01:10:00,221 --> 01:10:02,221 about problems that we've had on this board or other 1134 01:10:02,221 --> 01:10:08,221 boards I kinda like something like this because it might 1135 01:10:10,221 --> 01:10:12,221 resolve the problem. 1136 01:10:13,221 --> 01:10:18,621 I'm not sure that this is the actual language. 1137 01:10:26,221 --> 01:10:27,221 I'm sure that there's something here that might be 1138 01:10:27,221 --> 01:10:29,221 beneficial. 1139 01:10:29,221 --> 01:10:35,821 >> if you want to take some time and look at section 5. 1140 01:10:42,221 --> 01:10:43,221 what I would say, it gives the commissioner a right to a 1141 01:10:43,221 --> 01:10:45,221 notice of hearing before this commission and I am saying 1142 01:10:45,221 --> 01:10:50,221 in my view is that I do not want to deal with that. 1143 01:10:50,221 --> 01:10:52,161 if the commissioner doesn't like what's happening in the 1144 01:10:52,161 --> 01:10:57,561 commissioner can put it on the agenda and other 1145 01:11:00,161 --> 01:11:01,161 commissioners can hear it. 1146 01:11:01,161 --> 01:11:02,161 I don't like being bound to some kind of a notice 1147 01:11:02,161 --> 01:11:05,761 hearing process here before it goes. 1148 01:11:13,161 --> 01:11:14,161 I think it without that we still have the opportunity. 1149 01:11:14,161 --> 01:11:15,161 I can go either way. 1150 01:11:15,161 --> 01:11:18,161 I take your point that's think about it and I prefer to 1151 01:11:18,161 --> 01:11:21,161 talk about it some more. 1152 01:11:51,101 --> 01:11:57,701 actually it didn't have anything to do with that it had 1153 01:12:07,101 --> 01:12:08,101 to do, my point is that we do not have it's an 1154 01:12:08,101 --> 01:12:09,101 unnecessary procedure whereas we do not have the right 1155 01:12:09,101 --> 01:12:10,101 to recommend any removal. 1156 01:12:10,101 --> 01:12:14,101 it's up to the board of supervisors. 1157 01:12:14,101 --> 01:12:17,701 yeah, to the board of supervisors. 1158 01:12:21,101 --> 01:12:26,101 >> what I was going to suggest, I really don't feel that 1159 01:12:26,101 --> 01:12:32,101 this type of thing belongs in the bylaws and I'm 1160 01:12:32,101 --> 01:12:33,101 thinking that perhaps if you want to have some kind of 1161 01:12:33,101 --> 01:12:39,101 procedure or policy with regard to this issue then why 1162 01:12:48,101 --> 01:12:49,101 don't we just bring back a policy and you can have that 1163 01:12:49,101 --> 01:12:50,101 as a separate discussion? 1164 01:12:50,101 --> 01:12:51,410 >> I really don't believe that, this is more a procedure 1165 01:12:51,410 --> 01:12:55,410 than a policy procedure not a bylaws. 1166 01:12:55,410 --> 01:12:56,410 >> I accept that. 1167 01:12:56,410 --> 01:12:57,410 >> let's do that. 1168 01:12:57,410 --> 01:12:59,410 then I would move approval subject to the removal of 1169 01:12:59,410 --> 01:13:04,441 section 5 with the direction to staff bring back a 1170 01:13:05,410 --> 01:13:09,410 policy to handle this kind of thing. 1171 01:13:09,410 --> 01:13:14,410 the more I think about it I think you're right. 1172 01:13:14,410 --> 01:13:17,410 when you do something that's a policy rather than just 1173 01:13:17,410 --> 01:13:19,441 having sort of nothing. 1174 01:13:25,410 --> 01:13:26,410 >> right because it be no stopping it we had a 1175 01:13:26,410 --> 01:13:31,410 dysfunctional board the chair would go but some other 1176 01:13:31,410 --> 01:13:32,410 would go pretty soon you have the supervisors involved 1177 01:13:32,410 --> 01:13:34,410 in our battles. 1178 01:13:38,410 --> 01:13:39,410 I'm not saying any of that would happen I think were all 1179 01:13:39,410 --> 01:13:40,410 mature but I've been on boards where that type of 1180 01:13:40,410 --> 01:13:44,241 dysfunction, happens and it's hard to stop. 1181 01:13:49,410 --> 01:13:51,981 >> my problem with the commissioner did have to do with 1182 01:13:51,981 --> 01:13:56,981 the labor but the way he dealt with it. 1183 01:13:56,981 --> 01:13:57,981 well, there was that and also something else. 1184 01:13:57,981 --> 01:14:02,181 >> it was an action abs-haven't absent commissioners 1185 01:14:05,981 --> 01:14:06,981 personality. 1186 01:14:06,981 --> 01:14:07,981 anyway I want to go through that again because it 1187 01:14:07,981 --> 01:14:10,981 reminds me of horrible, horrible experiences. 1188 01:14:10,981 --> 01:14:15,181 commissioner anderson has moved and commissioner gardner 1189 01:14:22,981 --> 01:14:23,981 is second. 1190 01:14:23,981 --> 01:14:24,981 we will have a rollcall vote. 1191 01:14:24,981 --> 01:14:25,981 any other discussion or question before we take the 1192 01:14:25,981 --> 01:14:26,981 rollcall vote? 1193 01:14:26,981 --> 01:14:27,981 okay. 1194 01:14:27,981 --> 01:14:33,381 we will go ahead and have the rollcall vote. 1195 01:14:47,981 --> 01:14:51,581 this is our last rollcall vote. 1196 01:14:58,921 --> 01:14:59,921 >> that you approve the other two resolutions? 1197 01:14:59,921 --> 01:15:00,921 >> yes, all three. 1198 01:15:00,921 --> 01:15:06,321 >> I'm sorry, was that also with the technology that 1199 01:15:10,921 --> 01:15:11,921 were improving? 1200 01:15:11,921 --> 01:15:12,921 >> yes. 1201 01:15:12,921 --> 01:15:13,921 >> do you have a question about that? 1202 01:15:13,921 --> 01:15:14,921 >> yes. 1203 01:15:14,921 --> 01:15:15,921 >> is it technology? 1204 01:15:15,921 --> 01:15:16,921 policy? 1205 01:15:16,921 --> 01:15:17,921 >> policy. 1206 01:15:17,921 --> 01:15:19,921 brian, did we forward all our former emails I wasn't 1207 01:15:19,921 --> 01:15:20,921 sure? 1208 01:15:20,921 --> 01:15:23,921 >> I don't think that's necessary. 1209 01:15:23,921 --> 01:15:29,921 but if you feel like it, you can do that. 1210 01:15:29,921 --> 01:15:30,921 >> we can save this for another discussion but I had 1211 01:15:30,921 --> 01:15:37,521 questions as far as the actual use and it's the property 1212 01:15:38,921 --> 01:15:44,921 of the housing authority and technology and how is that 1213 01:15:46,921 --> 01:15:51,861 a protection on that as far as, is it insured? 1214 01:15:51,861 --> 01:15:52,861 >> it is not insured and we can give you those in a 1215 01:15:52,861 --> 01:15:55,861 private conversation training use the technology. 1216 01:15:55,861 --> 01:15:57,861 >> awesome. 1217 01:16:02,861 --> 01:16:03,861 any more questions before I take the vote? 1218 01:16:03,861 --> 01:16:09,261 okay let's have the rollcall vote on all three. 1219 01:16:09,861 --> 01:16:14,661 >> I just thought you took the rollcall vote? 1220 01:16:23,861 --> 01:16:24,861 >> do we have to do it again? 1221 01:16:24,861 --> 01:16:25,861 >> no. 1222 01:16:25,861 --> 01:16:26,861 what you cook, if you feel that you weren't sure that 1223 01:16:26,861 --> 01:16:27,861 you took a vote on the other two resolutions you cannot 1224 01:16:27,861 --> 01:16:30,861 do that by voice vote. 1225 01:16:30,861 --> 01:16:31,861 >> the clerk confirmed that she understood your prior 1226 01:16:31,861 --> 01:16:35,461 rollcall to be all three actions. 1227 01:16:35,861 --> 01:16:41,261 >> for the record, that was intent of my motion. 1228 01:16:41,861 --> 01:16:42,861 >> and the other section 5 will be brought back asked 1229 01:16:42,861 --> 01:16:44,861 policy. 1230 01:16:46,861 --> 01:16:54,610 we are at 11 o'clock so we're going to have to take e6 1231 01:16:54,801 --> 01:16:55,801 >> we can quickly dispose, I think four and five should 1232 01:16:55,801 --> 01:16:58,201 be fairly housekeeping items. 1233 01:17:08,801 --> 01:17:09,801 before is adopting a resolution and housing authority to 1234 01:17:09,801 --> 01:17:10,801 change providers for our dental and vision insurance. 1235 01:17:10,801 --> 01:17:11,801 this is the housekeeping matter this is just no change 1236 01:17:11,801 --> 01:17:12,801 to the employees. 1237 01:17:12,801 --> 01:17:17,801 it does offload some of the administration of the 1238 01:17:17,801 --> 01:17:18,801 benefits because this organization provides more 1239 01:17:18,801 --> 01:17:22,801 administration support so premium wise there is a big 1240 01:17:22,801 --> 01:17:25,801 difference but is can be significant from an operational 1241 01:17:25,801 --> 01:17:27,801 standpoint. 1242 01:17:29,801 --> 01:17:34,601 >> we went through the-- that was my concern. 1243 01:17:37,801 --> 01:17:43,201 the question was at the cost more or what. 1244 01:17:50,801 --> 01:17:52,801 that is myself when the mic background. 1245 01:17:52,801 --> 01:17:58,801 the second piece --that is my cell phone and the 1246 01:17:58,801 --> 01:18:00,801 background. 1247 01:18:03,801 --> 01:18:09,801 's so, if you take into account that were saving 1248 01:18:09,801 --> 01:18:14,100 administrative cost because the --the program provider 1249 01:18:15,801 --> 01:18:18,801 will do something with that. 1250 01:18:18,801 --> 01:18:22,801 it felt like it was more or less neutral and it would 1251 01:18:22,801 --> 01:18:27,100 take some of the burden off staff. 1252 01:18:29,801 --> 01:18:30,801 I would move approval. 1253 01:18:30,801 --> 01:18:31,801 >> okay. 1254 01:18:31,801 --> 01:18:35,801 we have a motion to approve is her second? 1255 01:18:35,801 --> 01:18:36,801 second commissioner o'neill seconds. 1256 01:18:36,801 --> 01:18:38,801 all in favor say I? 1257 01:18:38,801 --> 01:18:39,801 great. 1258 01:18:39,801 --> 01:18:41,801 it passes. 1259 01:18:41,801 --> 01:18:45,401 now, let's take on item b-five. 1260 01:18:50,741 --> 01:18:51,741 >> yes this is the last business item. 1261 01:18:51,741 --> 01:18:57,141 again, this is under our program regulations there are 1262 01:19:02,741 --> 01:19:03,741 two mandatory items that we have to screen applicants 1263 01:19:03,741 --> 01:19:04,741 for. 1264 01:19:04,741 --> 01:19:05,741 when I is lifetime six offender registration status and 1265 01:19:05,741 --> 01:19:06,741 the second is a manufacturer at method of remedying's 1266 01:19:06,741 --> 01:19:07,741 circumstances. 1267 01:19:07,741 --> 01:19:13,741 we were not to bid on this contract kind of refresh it-- 1268 01:19:13,741 --> 01:19:16,741 meta- --were asking for board approval. 1269 01:19:16,741 --> 01:19:18,741 >> any discussion? 1270 01:19:29,741 --> 01:19:30,741 >> I think it's a hard requirement that we do it so we 1271 01:19:30,741 --> 01:19:31,741 have the right mentor and all that's why move approval. 1272 01:19:31,741 --> 01:19:32,741 >> commissioner anderson was approval to we have a 1273 01:19:32,741 --> 01:19:33,741 second? 1274 01:19:33,741 --> 01:19:34,741 >> second. 1275 01:19:34,741 --> 01:19:37,141 commission there lorie second. 1276 01:19:39,741 --> 01:19:40,741 any other questions? 1277 01:19:40,741 --> 01:19:42,741 all in favor of approving this agreement signify by 1278 01:19:42,741 --> 01:19:44,741 saying I? 1279 01:19:46,741 --> 01:19:47,741 it passes. 1280 01:19:47,741 --> 01:19:53,741 now, we have --bam I wanted to introduce consultants who 1281 01:19:56,681 --> 01:20:00,681 have been working with us for a few maybe a year now. 1282 01:20:00,681 --> 01:20:03,681 they are call the tax credit asset management 1283 01:20:03,681 --> 01:20:05,681 corporation? 1284 01:20:06,681 --> 01:20:08,681 is that correct? 1285 01:20:08,681 --> 01:20:12,281 we know them by that name. 1286 01:20:24,681 --> 01:20:25,681 what they been working with our stephan is not only 1287 01:20:25,681 --> 01:20:26,681 fully transitioning us an agency that manages property 1288 01:20:26,681 --> 01:20:27,681 to one that manages assets and part of that involves the 1289 01:20:27,681 --> 01:20:28,681 training of you are board members, you have a role 1290 01:20:28,681 --> 01:20:34,810 respect to our housing authority portfolio and we want 1291 01:20:36,681 --> 01:20:37,681 you to better understand your role so they're good to go 1292 01:20:37,681 --> 01:20:40,681 into some of the basics of what your role is with 1293 01:20:40,681 --> 01:20:41,681 respect of our 29 different affordable housing 1294 01:20:41,681 --> 01:20:43,681 properties. 1295 01:20:44,681 --> 01:20:45,681 I will let you all introduce yourself. 1296 01:20:45,681 --> 01:20:46,681 >> thank you. 1297 01:20:46,681 --> 01:20:51,481 hello everyone I ellen sally's army managing director. 1298 01:20:52,621 --> 01:20:55,621 I'm joined by my colleague elaine magill who zone of our 1299 01:20:55,621 --> 01:20:58,621 lead consultants and prosthetic manager. 1300 01:21:02,621 --> 01:21:03,621 as catherine mentioned, we had the pleasure of working 1301 01:21:03,621 --> 01:21:09,621 with them on their asset management function and that is 1302 01:21:09,621 --> 01:21:12,621 really going to be the focus of this presentation. 1303 01:21:12,621 --> 01:21:18,621 to keep it clean and simple talk about asset management 1304 01:21:18,621 --> 01:21:21,621 were talking about how do we take care of the properties 1305 01:21:21,621 --> 01:21:25,221 that we own and invest in. 1306 01:21:29,621 --> 01:21:30,621 in this presentation, we brought to you today, we will 1307 01:21:30,621 --> 01:21:32,621 talk about the roles and responsibilities of folks who 1308 01:21:32,621 --> 01:21:36,821 work day today on asset management responsibilities. 1309 01:21:46,621 --> 01:21:47,621 and throughout the industry really, and how those 1310 01:21:47,621 --> 01:21:48,621 responsibilities defer from rules and responsibilities 1311 01:21:48,621 --> 01:21:53,421 of those who are at the board level. 1312 01:21:53,561 --> 01:21:54,561 we are an organization that has done a lot of work in 1313 01:21:54,561 --> 01:21:57,561 the country with other housing authorities and other 1314 01:21:57,561 --> 01:21:58,561 capital providers, we learned a lot from these 1315 01:21:58,561 --> 01:22:03,961 experiences and we are trying to bring that introduce 1316 01:22:04,561 --> 01:22:09,361 that best practices to them in this area. 1317 01:22:11,561 --> 01:22:12,561 I am going through the first few slides and then I will 1318 01:22:12,561 --> 01:22:15,561 turn it over to elaine who will take us to the rest of 1319 01:22:15,561 --> 01:22:17,561 the presentation. 1320 01:22:24,561 --> 01:22:25,561 and then perhaps, we can do some questions and answers 1321 01:22:25,561 --> 01:22:26,561 afterwards. 1322 01:22:26,561 --> 01:22:27,561 so, this is our agenda. 1323 01:22:27,561 --> 01:22:31,561 the first thing that were going to talk about which 1324 01:22:31,561 --> 01:22:32,561 should be quite familiar to the group here is that this 1325 01:22:32,561 --> 01:22:33,561 understanding the work that you do as a housing 1326 01:22:33,561 --> 01:22:38,961 authority we think it's important to start with this 1327 01:22:39,561 --> 01:22:40,561 just to set the stage so we can understand the rest of 1328 01:22:40,561 --> 01:22:42,561 the presentation as we get into your relationship to 1329 01:22:42,561 --> 01:22:46,561 your properties and the key rules with respect to asset 1330 01:22:46,561 --> 01:22:48,561 management. 1331 01:22:52,501 --> 01:22:53,501 number two, we will talk about your inherent 1332 01:22:53,501 --> 01:22:55,901 relationship to your properties. 1333 01:23:00,501 --> 01:23:01,501 and how that typically works across housing authorities 1334 01:23:01,501 --> 01:23:08,701 and then we will end with this sort of a situation of 1335 01:23:13,501 --> 01:23:14,501 today. 1336 01:23:14,501 --> 01:23:15,501 how does a well oiled asset management function work and 1337 01:23:15,501 --> 01:23:17,501 what are the key rules and responsibilities. 1338 01:23:17,501 --> 01:23:18,501 the scope into number one. 1339 01:23:18,501 --> 01:23:20,501 understanding what you do. 1340 01:23:20,501 --> 01:23:22,501 much of this is not all should be familiar to this 1341 01:23:22,501 --> 01:23:24,501 group. 1342 01:23:27,501 --> 01:23:28,501 we think it's important to start here and get the basics 1343 01:23:28,501 --> 01:23:30,501 down and lay a foundation. 1344 01:23:30,501 --> 01:23:35,901 this illustration starts with those areas that, most of 1345 01:23:39,501 --> 01:23:40,501 us know are important to the housing authority which is 1346 01:23:40,501 --> 01:23:46,501 providing a social good for the community that you serve 1347 01:23:46,501 --> 01:23:49,501 and administering housing finance programs. 1348 01:23:50,441 --> 01:23:54,441 example 8 for exam goal and other ones that have more 1349 01:23:54,441 --> 01:23:58,641 public housing that they're administrating and again 1350 01:24:00,441 --> 01:24:01,441 providing social support. 1351 01:24:01,441 --> 01:24:04,441 in addition to all of that, there is a host of 1352 01:24:04,441 --> 01:24:10,441 responsibilities and work that you as an owner as an 1353 01:24:20,441 --> 01:24:21,441 operator of real estate of multifamily developments have 1354 01:24:21,441 --> 01:24:22,441 to worry about so you own and you develop, you operate a 1355 01:24:22,441 --> 01:24:24,441 department billings for low income individuals. 1356 01:24:24,441 --> 01:24:27,441 and often as is the case, you will use low income house 1357 01:24:27,441 --> 01:24:32,841 tax credits which are administered by your state monitor 1358 01:24:33,441 --> 01:24:37,410 agency and funded by the irs. 1359 01:24:37,441 --> 01:24:42,841 the portfolio or the properties that you're managing and 1360 01:24:45,441 --> 01:24:46,441 operating are often funded or financed by this important 1361 01:24:46,441 --> 01:24:48,441 tool. 1362 01:24:51,381 --> 01:24:57,381 your mission is very critical this is your guiding light 1363 01:25:01,381 --> 01:25:02,381 here this is very familiar to all of you is to provide 1364 01:25:02,381 --> 01:25:07,181 and inspire affordable housing solution to enable low 1365 01:25:09,381 --> 01:25:10,381 income people and santa clara county to achieve 1366 01:25:10,381 --> 01:25:11,381 financial stability and self-reliance. 1367 01:25:11,381 --> 01:25:17,381 as I mentioned, and addition to trying to fulfill this 1368 01:25:17,381 --> 01:25:18,381 mission you're also owners of real estate and that 1369 01:25:18,381 --> 01:25:21,381 brings a host of responsibilities. 1370 01:25:23,381 --> 01:25:24,381 that ownership itself is done in support of your 1371 01:25:24,381 --> 01:25:26,381 mission. 1372 01:25:34,381 --> 01:25:35,381 in this illustration, what were trying to communicate 1373 01:25:35,381 --> 01:25:36,381 with you is the complexity of the properties that you 1374 01:25:36,381 --> 01:25:38,781 develop own, and manage. 1375 01:25:44,381 --> 01:25:45,381 and all the different stakeholders involved in these 1376 01:25:45,381 --> 01:25:46,381 transactions. 1377 01:25:46,381 --> 01:25:52,381 as you can see, it's a variety of capital providers, 1378 01:25:56,321 --> 01:25:57,321 investors, stakeholders and perhaps the most important 1379 01:25:57,321 --> 01:25:58,321 stakeholder in this illustration in any of these 1380 01:25:58,321 --> 01:25:59,321 properties are the residents the committees that you're 1381 01:25:59,321 --> 01:26:05,321 trying to serve but you also have lenders who provide 1382 01:26:08,321 --> 01:26:09,321 loans and those loans have to be service. 1383 01:26:09,321 --> 01:26:15,321 on the other hand, you may have a tax credit investor 1384 01:26:15,321 --> 01:26:16,321 and you may be familiar with the term syndicator the 1385 01:26:16,321 --> 01:26:17,321 middleman that brings the developers and investors 1386 01:26:17,321 --> 01:26:19,321 together. 1387 01:26:19,321 --> 01:26:20,321 on that and there try to get tax benefits from these 1388 01:26:20,321 --> 01:26:26,321 properties the part here that relates to you is the 1389 01:26:26,321 --> 01:26:28,321 owner developer side. 1390 01:26:33,321 --> 01:26:34,321 you are mostly responsible for ensuring that these 1391 01:26:34,321 --> 01:26:37,321 properties get billed or rehabilitated and that they get 1392 01:26:37,321 --> 01:26:42,121 well-maintained over time and you have your own 1393 01:26:47,321 --> 01:26:48,321 incentives in addition to profits and fees you're also 1394 01:26:48,321 --> 01:26:52,261 trying to fulfill your mission as a public agency. 1395 01:26:52,261 --> 01:26:53,261 a complex sort of array of actors in each of these 1396 01:26:53,261 --> 01:26:55,261 properties. 1397 01:27:00,261 --> 01:27:01,261 I will turn it over to elaine who will talk about your 1398 01:27:01,261 --> 01:27:03,661 role in property ownership. 1399 01:27:05,261 --> 01:27:06,261 >> thank you. 1400 01:27:06,261 --> 01:27:07,261 hi everyone. 1401 01:27:07,261 --> 01:27:13,261 we will talk about the role as a corporation in the 1402 01:27:13,261 --> 01:27:18,610 ownership of these properties and what is the 1403 01:27:18,261 --> 01:27:19,261 corporation responsible and how do you fit into the 1404 01:27:19,261 --> 01:27:21,261 bigger picture. 1405 01:27:21,261 --> 01:27:27,261 this little graphic, they own quite a few little kind of 1406 01:27:27,261 --> 01:27:32,610 shell corporations that are the organizations that have 1407 01:27:32,261 --> 01:27:38,261 built this properties this is how they are involved in 1408 01:27:38,261 --> 01:27:39,261 the properties. 1409 01:27:39,261 --> 01:27:45,261 but, each of these affiliates each of them are pretty 1410 01:27:46,261 --> 01:27:47,261 much self-contained little companies and they operate 1411 01:27:47,261 --> 01:27:49,261 pretty well on their own. 1412 01:27:49,261 --> 01:27:54,610 the each have their own board of directors. 1413 01:27:58,261 --> 01:27:59,261 I don't know what's happening here. 1414 01:27:59,261 --> 01:28:01,261 they have their own boards of directors they oversee and 1415 01:28:01,261 --> 01:28:06,610 monitor those properties of these entities which are 1416 01:28:07,261 --> 01:28:09,261 their purview. 1417 01:28:10,261 --> 01:28:16,261 I don't know what's going on with this-- they contract 1418 01:28:24,261 --> 01:28:29,661 with property management so they are closely involved in 1419 01:28:32,261 --> 01:28:33,261 how they operate at those properties social services and 1420 01:28:33,261 --> 01:28:35,261 really again they are self-contained little company. 1421 01:28:35,261 --> 01:28:40,261 they are watching their own income and expenses that 1422 01:28:40,261 --> 01:28:41,261 they are solvent and feasible as companies. 1423 01:28:41,261 --> 01:28:44,261 what is it with them? 1424 01:28:44,261 --> 01:28:46,661 what does that mean? 1425 01:28:55,201 --> 01:28:56,201 okay. 1426 01:28:56,201 --> 01:28:57,201 here's two examples. 1427 01:28:57,201 --> 01:28:58,201 these are two properties from the portfolio that you 1428 01:28:58,201 --> 01:29:00,201 guys own. 1429 01:29:02,201 --> 01:29:05,801 if you can see, let's see? 1430 01:29:07,201 --> 01:29:08,201 this is the name of the company that owns it and again 1431 01:29:08,201 --> 01:29:14,801 this, this is the entity from the slide before that is 1432 01:29:15,201 --> 01:29:16,201 how they are involved. 1433 01:29:16,201 --> 01:29:17,201 that's a little company that is involved in this 1434 01:29:17,201 --> 01:29:19,201 property. 1435 01:29:23,201 --> 01:29:24,201 down here, this is a name of who owns a property but 1436 01:29:24,201 --> 01:29:27,201 this is how we are involved. 1437 01:29:27,201 --> 01:29:33,801 so, the city is one of those, one of the owners. 1438 01:29:35,201 --> 01:29:41,201 a place that owns the building is been door drive 1439 01:29:42,201 --> 01:29:45,201 partnership again, one of those companies is one of the 1440 01:29:45,201 --> 01:29:51,201 partners that owns the property and the board of them, 1441 01:29:52,141 --> 01:29:53,141 remember its own board is regularly monitoring 1442 01:29:53,141 --> 01:29:54,141 performance. 1443 01:29:54,141 --> 01:29:55,141 it was really looking at how is they operating and 1444 01:29:55,141 --> 01:29:57,141 performing. 1445 01:30:05,141 --> 01:30:06,141 >> we are a member of that board? 1446 01:30:06,141 --> 01:30:09,141 >> they had their own membership. 1447 01:30:14,141 --> 01:30:19,541 it has its own board but in operates internally. 1448 01:30:20,141 --> 01:30:21,141 no one, but most of the people in the board of 1449 01:30:21,141 --> 01:30:24,141 commissioners are not member of this board. 1450 01:30:24,141 --> 01:30:29,141 >> either way, it's not a fiction it's a natural fact 1451 01:30:29,141 --> 01:30:35,141 that there's a separate company, we are not that company 1452 01:30:36,141 --> 01:30:37,141 and we don't want to be the company. 1453 01:30:37,141 --> 01:30:44,341 what we do and the way it works it's a little tricky. 1454 01:30:45,141 --> 01:30:46,141 if you looked up at the board of directors of each of 1455 01:30:46,141 --> 01:30:51,810 the smaller companies there are staff often times with 1456 01:30:51,810 --> 01:30:57,810 other people on that board and some, you may have some 1457 01:30:57,810 --> 01:30:58,810 from the tax credit folks that have an interest in the 1458 01:30:58,810 --> 01:30:59,810 property. 1459 01:30:59,810 --> 01:31:02,810 basically the control of those companies is through our 1460 01:31:02,810 --> 01:31:04,810 staff. 1461 01:31:22,810 --> 01:31:27,481 we are actually in their it's a good presentation 1462 01:31:30,810 --> 01:31:31,810 because even for me and I was present when they were put 1463 01:31:31,810 --> 01:31:35,881 together and have thought this but sometimes I'm 1464 01:31:36,810 --> 01:31:42,681 confused and what our role is this, as your old the 1465 01:32:08,210 --> 01:32:12,221 housing authority owns via san pedro incorporated. 1466 01:32:18,210 --> 01:32:19,210 the board of directors are established according to that 1467 01:32:19,210 --> 01:32:21,210 corporation and bylaws. 1468 01:32:39,210 --> 01:32:42,621 >> I think that brace said down. 1469 01:32:45,210 --> 01:32:46,210 and I don't want to get us caught up in the legal stuff 1470 01:32:46,210 --> 01:32:47,210 but yeah. 1471 01:32:47,210 --> 01:32:49,961 >> of those eight properties are those part of our 1472 01:32:49,961 --> 01:32:50,961 portfolio? 1473 01:32:50,961 --> 01:32:52,961 of the properties? 1474 01:32:54,961 --> 01:32:59,961 >> the aeg these are acronyms for generally, it sounds 1475 01:32:59,961 --> 01:33:00,961 for housing development corporation and a lot of our 1476 01:33:00,961 --> 01:33:06,961 corporate names have hdc at the end but they are 1477 01:33:13,961 --> 01:33:14,961 corporation and not properties within each of these 1478 01:33:14,961 --> 01:33:15,961 corporations they have responsibility formation 1479 01:33:15,961 --> 01:33:16,961 --managing. 1480 01:33:16,961 --> 01:33:23,561 there will be more than one property like one of them 1481 01:33:28,961 --> 01:33:29,961 has around six properties under its purview. 1482 01:33:29,961 --> 01:33:30,961 because those are all properties that had to have the 1483 01:33:30,961 --> 01:33:32,961 arms length transaction. 1484 01:33:34,961 --> 01:33:40,961 these corporations as was noted on the slide right here 1485 01:33:41,961 --> 01:33:42,961 these corporations actually have the contracts with a 1486 01:33:42,961 --> 01:33:44,961 property management company they manage of those 1487 01:33:44,961 --> 01:33:49,761 contracts because they are the general managing partner 1488 01:33:54,901 --> 01:33:55,901 for the limited partnership. 1489 01:33:55,901 --> 01:33:56,901 if you go back to the next slide, you will see how 1490 01:33:56,901 --> 01:33:58,901 owners been door drive, that's the ownership entity and 1491 01:33:58,901 --> 01:34:04,301 the ownership entity is controlled by san pedro hdc. 1492 01:34:06,901 --> 01:34:12,901 the rest of the partnerships is a tax credit investor 1493 01:34:15,901 --> 01:34:16,901 that's kind of in the background saying I'm giving you 1494 01:34:16,901 --> 01:34:17,901 this money, this is what I want back and this is what 1495 01:34:17,901 --> 01:34:19,901 you will too. 1496 01:34:20,901 --> 01:34:23,301 >> yes, very well explained. 1497 01:34:29,901 --> 01:34:30,901 I think the question that you're asking, what is her 1498 01:34:30,901 --> 01:34:31,901 involvement more directly? 1499 01:34:31,901 --> 01:34:32,901 yes, they make a small to be able to get the building 1500 01:34:32,901 --> 01:34:37,701 financed, these buildings are expenses and they need 1501 01:34:39,901 --> 01:34:40,901 money. 1502 01:34:40,901 --> 01:34:44,901 one of the ways that the building was paid for was them 1503 01:34:44,901 --> 01:34:49,841 saying, we found all the money we can get from the state 1504 01:34:49,841 --> 01:34:55,841 and investor whistle have a little gap okay, will fill 1505 01:34:55,841 --> 01:34:56,841 back so them as a corporation made a loan sort of to 1506 01:34:56,841 --> 01:35:01,841 itself but that loan is to-having given by them. 1507 01:35:01,841 --> 01:35:05,441 in that way, there directly involved. 1508 01:35:05,841 --> 01:35:11,841 they also a guarantor some these bigger loans that the 1509 01:35:17,841 --> 01:35:18,841 property holes. 1510 01:35:18,841 --> 01:35:19,841 it has a loan to the bank, that bank want someone to 1511 01:35:19,841 --> 01:35:20,841 guarantee that loan. 1512 01:35:20,841 --> 01:35:21,841 also the investor want a guarantor of the benefits they 1513 01:35:21,841 --> 01:35:22,841 have. 1514 01:35:22,841 --> 01:35:26,841 just another example, a nida is a way that they are 1515 01:35:26,841 --> 01:35:28,841 involved. 1516 01:35:32,841 --> 01:35:33,841 but also, they made a small loan and holds a lease on 1517 01:35:33,841 --> 01:35:38,641 the land that cypress garden was built on. 1518 01:35:43,841 --> 01:35:44,841 they were involved directly but on a more daily basis 1519 01:35:44,841 --> 01:35:48,841 sort of managing the property, there is this kind of 1520 01:35:48,841 --> 01:35:53,410 means her --that operates on its own. 1521 01:35:55,781 --> 01:35:56,781 and they may have other affiliations that are direct but 1522 01:35:56,781 --> 01:36:01,581 the daily stuff is done through this structure. 1523 01:36:07,781 --> 01:36:08,781 we have talked about this a bit but, you know as 1524 01:36:08,781 --> 01:36:09,781 commissioners you are, your responsibility to the 1525 01:36:09,781 --> 01:36:11,781 agency. 1526 01:36:11,781 --> 01:36:14,781 you have fiduciary responsibilities and wondering what 1527 01:36:14,781 --> 01:36:18,781 is on the balance sheet and certainly these projects are 1528 01:36:18,781 --> 01:36:20,781 underneath that. 1529 01:36:23,781 --> 01:36:24,781 but, the way this program was structured the affordable 1530 01:36:24,781 --> 01:36:29,581 housing program recognize the complexity of these types 1531 01:36:30,781 --> 01:36:31,781 of projects. 1532 01:36:31,781 --> 01:36:35,381 their $14 million 20 million with multiple stakeholders 1533 01:36:41,781 --> 01:36:42,781 and dozens of not hundreds of residents and oversight 1534 01:36:42,781 --> 01:36:43,781 from a number of different places and the reality of 1535 01:36:43,781 --> 01:36:49,181 managing that level of exposure and complexity, that is 1536 01:36:50,721 --> 01:36:51,721 not where our board can fit in. 1537 01:36:51,721 --> 01:36:57,721 a board is really intended to again have oversight from 1538 01:37:02,721 --> 01:37:03,721 the agencies. 1539 01:37:03,721 --> 01:37:04,721 you have a mandate to look what is relevant. 1540 01:37:04,721 --> 01:37:05,721 if you have this corporation is kind of managing its 1541 01:37:05,721 --> 01:37:12,321 affairs there's really no need or reason to be caught up 1542 01:37:12,721 --> 01:37:13,721 in the stuff that they are doing. 1543 01:37:13,721 --> 01:37:14,721 your involvement is in the things where it costs is 1544 01:37:14,721 --> 01:37:15,721 over. 1545 01:37:15,721 --> 01:37:17,721 the guarantees and feel the loans. 1546 01:37:17,721 --> 01:37:20,721 the three kind of primary ways that they are directly 1547 01:37:20,721 --> 01:37:26,121 involved as we saw before is as a guarantor. 1548 01:37:31,721 --> 01:37:32,721 as a board of commissioners of the agency, you should 1549 01:37:32,721 --> 01:37:33,721 know that these exist know what it means to guarantee a 1550 01:37:33,721 --> 01:37:39,721 loan and know what it means to guarantees on these 1551 01:37:42,721 --> 01:37:43,721 investments so if you prior to guarantee your 1552 01:37:43,721 --> 01:37:44,721 responsible for kind of knowing what it means and the 1553 01:37:44,721 --> 01:37:47,721 exposure it carries with it. 1554 01:37:56,721 --> 01:37:57,721 as I said, they're expensive and complicated properties 1555 01:37:57,721 --> 01:37:58,721 and some of that cost is usually paid with a loan. 1556 01:37:58,721 --> 01:37:59,721 just like the mortgage on your house. 1557 01:37:59,721 --> 01:38:00,721 you have to take out a loan from a bank typically and 1558 01:38:00,721 --> 01:38:01,721 whoever's given the loan wants to be sure that they get 1559 01:38:01,721 --> 01:38:06,521 paid back similarly whoever's making in the specimen 1560 01:38:11,721 --> 01:38:12,721 want to make sure that they're getting what they said 1561 01:38:12,721 --> 01:38:13,721 and because these little h dc as we talked before, the 1562 01:38:13,721 --> 01:38:14,721 only little the property but they don't have a lot of 1563 01:38:14,721 --> 01:38:19,521 history they don't have credibility and they're saying, 1564 01:38:21,721 --> 01:38:25,721 we are kind of cosigning we will step in and fill that 1565 01:38:25,721 --> 01:38:29,321 role as a back stop partner. 1566 01:38:36,721 --> 01:38:37,721 >> if I might just link this today's agenda. 1567 01:38:37,721 --> 01:38:38,721 on today's agenda when you approve the consent calendar 1568 01:38:38,721 --> 01:38:41,121 there are two reports. 1569 01:38:43,721 --> 01:38:44,721 one on laurel grove and one on park avenue. 1570 01:38:44,721 --> 01:38:50,661 when you read the background section it saiz, the reason 1571 01:38:50,661 --> 01:38:51,661 we are telling you about this is because I housing 1572 01:38:51,661 --> 01:38:54,661 authority has guaranteed construction and together this 1573 01:38:54,661 --> 01:38:57,661 is $100 million worth of construction. 1574 01:39:03,661 --> 01:39:04,661 you are oversight and the reason were giving you these 1575 01:39:04,661 --> 01:39:05,661 court reports on construction is because if there is a 1576 01:39:05,661 --> 01:39:07,661 problem with construction the expectation by the lender 1577 01:39:07,661 --> 01:39:13,661 is that the housing authority will step in and provide 1578 01:39:13,661 --> 01:39:14,661 whatever remedy is needed to make sure those buildings 1579 01:39:14,661 --> 01:39:18,261 go up and the longest repay. 1580 01:39:18,661 --> 01:39:19,661 okay? 1581 01:39:19,661 --> 01:39:22,661 kind of link it to today's agenda. 1582 01:39:22,661 --> 01:39:24,661 >> yes. 1583 01:39:26,661 --> 01:39:27,661 just a little note here. 1584 01:39:27,661 --> 01:39:32,461 this is actually kind of a good thing. 1585 01:39:36,661 --> 01:39:37,661 it gives them sort of the ability if something were to 1586 01:39:37,661 --> 01:39:38,661 go wrong with the property to kind of step in between 1587 01:39:38,661 --> 01:39:39,661 before the property got lost to the bank before closing 1588 01:39:39,661 --> 01:39:41,661 on it. 1589 01:39:52,601 --> 01:39:55,601 one of the --the second weather involved is like a land 1590 01:39:55,601 --> 01:39:57,601 lesser. 1591 01:40:15,601 --> 01:40:16,601 releases or land leases again, as a member of the board 1592 01:40:16,601 --> 01:40:17,601 of commissioners know that this exist know what a land 1593 01:40:17,601 --> 01:40:18,601 lease is spirits is exactly how it sounds and it saiz 1594 01:40:18,601 --> 01:40:19,601 come here some land I'm going to keep owning the land 1595 01:40:19,601 --> 01:40:20,601 and you can pay me rent on it and then you have certain 1596 01:40:20,601 --> 01:40:21,601 rights to do things on top of my land. 1597 01:40:21,601 --> 01:40:25,601 >> I think my fingers might be too big. 1598 01:40:25,601 --> 01:40:31,601 this can be a reason to engage its party just again to 1599 01:40:31,601 --> 01:40:35,601 keep cost down this is a very expensive environment that 1600 01:40:35,601 --> 01:40:38,100 you guys operate in. 1601 01:40:38,601 --> 01:40:44,601 certainly, having the ability as an entity to kind of 1602 01:40:53,541 --> 01:40:54,541 take the cost of land out of the cost of building a 1603 01:40:54,541 --> 01:40:55,541 property is great. 1604 01:40:55,541 --> 01:40:56,541 it allows the property to be built less expensively and 1605 01:40:56,541 --> 01:40:57,541 serve two people with lower incomes. 1606 01:40:57,541 --> 01:40:59,941 >> had to step in. 1607 01:41:00,541 --> 01:41:01,541 I want to give another illustration. 1608 01:41:01,541 --> 01:41:02,541 we have one property in our portfolio where we do not 1609 01:41:02,541 --> 01:41:04,541 own the land. 1610 01:41:04,541 --> 01:41:08,141 and that's the d rose apartments. 1611 01:41:09,541 --> 01:41:10,541 as elaine noted you can keep the operating costs of a 1612 01:41:10,541 --> 01:41:15,541 project down with kind of a below market lease right? 1613 01:41:15,541 --> 01:41:21,541 the lease revenues are basically are taken out of the 1614 01:41:21,541 --> 01:41:28,141 equation so folks are paying the rent this is an asset 1615 01:41:30,541 --> 01:41:31,541 management issue that we will need to be bringing to you 1616 01:41:31,541 --> 01:41:33,541 in the next few months to resolve because that lease 1617 01:41:33,541 --> 01:41:37,541 that this family owns is supposed to go to a market rate 1618 01:41:37,541 --> 01:41:39,541 level. 1619 01:41:41,541 --> 01:41:46,541 that would not be a sustainable read payment for us to 1620 01:41:46,541 --> 01:41:50,741 keep those folks in the income housing. 1621 01:41:52,481 --> 01:41:53,481 just so you know, we have one property where we do not 1622 01:41:53,481 --> 01:41:55,481 own the land. 1623 01:41:55,481 --> 01:41:57,481 >> actually, exactly. 1624 01:42:00,481 --> 01:42:05,481 they can set up these leases to be below market. 1625 01:42:05,481 --> 01:42:08,481 much less expenses what it would be you can probably get 1626 01:42:08,481 --> 01:42:13,481 a quite a bit of money and buy them being the landlord 1627 01:42:13,481 --> 01:42:20,810 on it can actually a lot to be less expensive unless 1628 01:42:23,481 --> 01:42:24,481 kind of invasive. 1629 01:42:24,481 --> 01:42:25,481 they can say, I'm more than happy for you to put the 1630 01:42:25,481 --> 01:42:28,481 affordable housing on the land. 1631 01:42:30,481 --> 01:42:31,481 they can say yes, have a land I will lease it to you for 1632 01:42:31,481 --> 01:42:33,481 a dollar year or whatever and I will not interact I will 1633 01:42:33,481 --> 01:42:39,481 not sort of disrupt how you operate I was in the 1634 01:42:39,481 --> 01:42:42,481 background and you can operate on your own as a company 1635 01:42:42,481 --> 01:42:44,481 providing affordable housing. 1636 01:42:47,481 --> 01:42:51,681 >> the last one is a gap lender. 1637 01:42:58,421 --> 01:42:59,421 again as a board of commissioners know that these exist 1638 01:42:59,421 --> 01:43:00,421 and know how a loan work. 1639 01:43:00,421 --> 01:43:05,421 it's typically someone who recognizing, we found all the 1640 01:43:05,421 --> 01:43:06,421 money that we found but I need more. 1641 01:43:06,421 --> 01:43:13,421 usually a state, a city or not profit will say, yes, I 1642 01:43:13,421 --> 01:43:14,421 will take this little piece else that you can still do 1643 01:43:14,421 --> 01:43:18,621 the project that you want to do. 1644 01:43:25,421 --> 01:43:26,421 you are accepting an iou from whatever that difference 1645 01:43:26,421 --> 01:43:27,421 is. 1646 01:43:27,421 --> 01:43:29,421 so hey, we found all the money that we could. 1647 01:43:29,421 --> 01:43:30,421 and they will say, okay here's a little iou for $1 1648 01:43:30,421 --> 01:43:32,421 million. 1649 01:43:35,421 --> 01:43:36,421 this is how it self is involved. 1650 01:43:36,421 --> 01:43:42,421 but again, these are quiet little, the operate in the 1651 01:43:48,421 --> 01:43:49,361 background. 1652 01:43:49,361 --> 01:43:50,361 the back round is not having to make payments on this 1653 01:43:50,361 --> 01:43:51,361 loan. 1654 01:43:51,361 --> 01:43:52,361 and so having a big loan from some financial institute 1655 01:43:52,361 --> 01:43:53,361 that wants get paid every month, this can make the costs 1656 01:43:53,361 --> 01:43:55,761 overall feel more less-expensive. 1657 01:43:57,361 --> 01:43:58,361 typically, these are soft loans and we talk about soft 1658 01:43:58,361 --> 01:44:03,761 loans again basically means you don't have to make 1659 01:44:06,361 --> 01:44:07,361 payments on these unless there sufficient money 1660 01:44:07,361 --> 01:44:08,361 available. 1661 01:44:08,361 --> 01:44:13,361 these are real loans about them they are legal contracts 1662 01:44:13,361 --> 01:44:20,561 and they are real and the typical are more gentle on the 1663 01:44:22,361 --> 01:44:23,361 building or the property that carries them. 1664 01:44:23,361 --> 01:44:28,761 again, payments are not required on an ongoing basis. 1665 01:44:31,361 --> 01:44:32,361 >> a hard loan is a mandatory payment that needs to be 1666 01:44:32,361 --> 01:44:37,361 made every month or the lender will foreclose on the 1667 01:44:37,361 --> 01:44:38,361 property. 1668 01:44:38,361 --> 01:44:39,361 a false loan saying only pay me if you have the money to 1669 01:44:39,361 --> 01:44:45,961 pay it but because the loan is given in exchange for 1670 01:44:46,361 --> 01:44:47,361 serving a low income population, the lender's mission is 1671 01:44:47,361 --> 01:44:49,361 so filled. 1672 01:44:50,301 --> 01:44:56,901 by way of example there was recently a pocket here call 1673 01:44:58,301 --> 01:44:59,301 2nd st. 1674 01:44:59,301 --> 01:45:00,301 studios which is going to be over 100 permanent support 1675 01:45:00,301 --> 01:45:03,301 housing units and we put project-based voucher for that 1676 01:45:03,301 --> 01:45:05,301 project. 1677 01:45:09,301 --> 01:45:15,301 they did not secure the tax credit founding seeing after 1678 01:45:18,301 --> 01:45:19,301 the no november 8 election the tax credit market took a 1679 01:45:19,301 --> 01:45:25,901 dive and all of a sudden they had $2.5 million that they 1680 01:45:27,301 --> 01:45:28,301 needed to come up with that they did not have the city 1681 01:45:28,301 --> 01:45:29,301 of san jose step forward with some other federal funds 1682 01:45:29,301 --> 01:45:36,501 that they have and they said we will loan you this money 1683 01:45:39,301 --> 01:45:40,301 because this project is very important to us and it's 1684 01:45:40,301 --> 01:45:41,301 going to go up and don't worry, you have to make a loan 1685 01:45:41,301 --> 01:45:42,301 payment unless a revenues that you collect are enough 1686 01:45:42,301 --> 01:45:48,301 not only to pay your operating expenses but also 10th 1687 01:45:50,241 --> 01:45:51,241 flow down to us. 1688 01:45:51,241 --> 01:45:52,241 what the city of san jose is in return they are getting 1689 01:45:52,241 --> 01:45:54,241 100 units of permanent supportive housing and the 1690 01:45:54,241 --> 01:45:57,841 community that will serve their residence. 1691 01:46:00,241 --> 01:46:01,241 >> and just to add onto that many tax credit properties 1692 01:46:01,241 --> 01:46:05,241 nationwide they don't get built without the soft loans 1693 01:46:05,241 --> 01:46:09,241 they are just so expensive that in addition to the cash 1694 01:46:09,241 --> 01:46:15,241 that you receive for the tax credit and a conventional 1695 01:46:16,241 --> 01:46:17,241 loan that you get from a bank you have to get the soft 1696 01:46:17,241 --> 01:46:21,241 loans as well to get those built these soft loan 1697 01:46:21,241 --> 01:46:27,241 providers are typically public agencies they can be at a 1698 01:46:32,241 --> 01:46:33,241 state level a local level and catherine's example you 1699 01:46:33,241 --> 01:46:34,241 have a big soft lender in town that provides a soft 1700 01:46:34,241 --> 01:46:38,241 loans to lotta properties again as catherine mentioned, 1701 01:46:38,241 --> 01:46:41,241 whatever's left after you pay your first loan your hard 1702 01:46:41,241 --> 01:46:47,841 tap must be paid and that is what typically goes to 1703 01:46:54,181 --> 01:46:55,181 paying the soft loans. 1704 01:46:55,181 --> 01:46:56,181 because you have a mission lender involved they are 1705 01:46:56,181 --> 01:46:57,181 usually not as strict about getting repaid as a bank 1706 01:46:57,181 --> 01:46:59,181 will be. 1707 01:47:04,181 --> 01:47:05,181 >> okay. 1708 01:47:05,181 --> 01:47:09,181 they just went through several slides talking about your 1709 01:47:09,181 --> 01:47:13,981 relationship and properties from ground leases to gap 1710 01:47:18,181 --> 01:47:19,181 financing and other ways that you have to think about 1711 01:47:19,181 --> 01:47:23,181 your exposure and how you finance your properties. 1712 01:47:23,181 --> 01:47:28,181 in this slide we want to talk about how the properties, 1713 01:47:28,181 --> 01:47:33,181 how you over see the properties and two important 1714 01:47:33,181 --> 01:47:34,181 takeaways. 1715 01:47:34,181 --> 01:47:38,181 I will same now and all same again. 1716 01:47:38,181 --> 01:47:42,981 two important takeaways want to leave with these 1717 01:47:44,181 --> 01:47:45,181 properties involve a lot of oversight, a lot of 1718 01:47:45,181 --> 01:47:49,181 specialized expertise you have tons of folks here at the 1719 01:47:49,181 --> 01:47:53,981 agency who are responsible for monitoring the properties 1720 01:47:54,181 --> 01:48:00,781 in a host of ways and it's important to recognize what 1721 01:48:01,181 --> 01:48:02,181 those folks who work here at the central office are 1722 01:48:02,181 --> 01:48:08,181 charged with in relation to your role as board members. 1723 01:48:09,181 --> 01:48:10,181 this is important for any housing authority that owns 1724 01:48:10,181 --> 01:48:12,181 real estate. 1725 01:48:19,181 --> 01:48:20,181 as elaine has mentioned, they are financial implications 1726 01:48:20,181 --> 01:48:27,981 as a lender as a guarantor as a land lessor each of the 1727 01:48:31,181 --> 01:48:32,181 members with limited partnerships to go with you to the 1728 01:48:32,181 --> 01:48:36,381 properties there are similar properties in your 1729 01:48:39,181 --> 01:48:43,981 portfolio each property has a variety of financing 1730 01:48:52,121 --> 01:48:53,121 sources you have conventional loans you have soft loans 1731 01:48:53,121 --> 01:48:54,121 from local lenders you may have a loan from the housing 1732 01:48:54,121 --> 01:48:59,121 authority and you may have a rental assistant contract 1733 01:48:59,121 --> 01:49:05,121 funded by the federal government so you may have a 1734 01:49:05,121 --> 01:49:06,121 section a contract if it's a tax credit property like 1735 01:49:06,121 --> 01:49:11,121 many of your assets you will have a tax credit investor 1736 01:49:11,121 --> 01:49:17,121 in the properties, you may also have bond financing from 1737 01:49:19,121 --> 01:49:20,121 other sources. 1738 01:49:20,121 --> 01:49:21,121 again, we talked about land leases which bring a host of 1739 01:49:21,121 --> 01:49:25,921 responsibilities for each of those boxes what were 1740 01:49:33,121 --> 01:49:34,121 trying to illustrate is how different all the properties 1741 01:49:34,121 --> 01:49:35,121 can be. 1742 01:49:35,121 --> 01:49:36,121 different sources, different loans from different 1743 01:49:36,121 --> 01:49:37,121 vendors you may also have a services agreement with the 1744 01:49:37,121 --> 01:49:43,121 city that's in the third box for the third property so, 1745 01:49:43,121 --> 01:49:48,521 just a host of financial responsibilities to the capital 1746 01:49:53,610 --> 01:49:54,610 providers compliance responsibilities to public agencies 1747 01:49:54,610 --> 01:49:55,610 for instance if you have a loan from the city of san 1748 01:49:55,610 --> 01:49:58,610 jose they have their own affordably requirements for 1749 01:49:58,610 --> 01:50:03,461 rent and income compliance rate your staff members and 1750 01:50:05,610 --> 01:50:09,610 your asset managers have to be monitoring constantly so 1751 01:50:09,610 --> 01:50:12,610 they can remain in compliance. 1752 01:50:12,610 --> 01:50:17,610 every single deal is different and this may not be 1753 01:50:17,610 --> 01:50:18,610 rocket science but there is a lot that goes with every 1754 01:50:18,610 --> 01:50:20,610 single property. 1755 01:50:22,610 --> 01:50:29,261 the force point going back to the major take away when I 1756 01:50:35,610 --> 01:50:36,610 started to slide, is that as board members you cannot 1757 01:50:36,610 --> 01:50:37,610 really get bogged down on the ongoing operations at the 1758 01:50:37,610 --> 01:50:38,610 property level. 1759 01:50:38,610 --> 01:50:41,610 you have a whole team of folks who are specialized who 1760 01:50:41,610 --> 01:50:47,661 are good at what they do and overseen some of these 1761 01:50:48,610 --> 01:50:49,100 responsibilities so think of yourself as very high-level 1762 01:50:49,100 --> 01:50:54,401 managers or general-- in an army if you're gen. 1763 01:50:58,100 --> 01:51:03,401 eisenhower world war ii, we can have you-- storm 1764 01:51:10,100 --> 01:51:13,601 normandy beach with the foot soldiers. 1765 01:51:14,100 --> 01:51:17,100 think of yourself as just overseen their exposure at a 1766 01:51:17,100 --> 01:51:21,100 very high level that are worrying about all these 1767 01:51:21,100 --> 01:51:23,100 details. 1768 01:51:29,100 --> 01:51:30,100 what you should be thinking about a course is the 1769 01:51:30,100 --> 01:51:31,100 information that you do get on these properties so you 1770 01:51:31,100 --> 01:51:36,401 could make important decisions in a couple of minutes 1771 01:51:37,100 --> 01:51:38,100 elaine will be talking about that. 1772 01:51:38,100 --> 01:51:44,100 when you get together and you have these board meetings 1773 01:51:46,100 --> 01:51:49,100 and to have enough information. 1774 01:52:07,941 --> 01:52:12,741 >> I just want to check on time yes. 1775 01:53:16,881 --> 01:53:20,881 the team keeps tracks of all this so they look what are 1776 01:53:20,881 --> 01:53:21,881 they doing? 1777 01:53:21,881 --> 01:53:26,881 they're involved in all the meetings and boards to 1778 01:53:26,881 --> 01:53:27,881 report to the board and provide information they make 1779 01:53:27,881 --> 01:53:32,881 sure that things are being done correctly and on time. 1780 01:53:32,881 --> 01:53:33,881 they look at property performance and again, these are 1781 01:53:33,881 --> 01:53:37,481 supposed to be little self-contained companies. 1782 01:53:43,881 --> 01:53:44,881 they're trying to look at their breaking even are losing 1783 01:53:44,881 --> 01:53:45,881 money. 1784 01:53:45,881 --> 01:53:46,881 if they are, as a reason for that, what we can do about 1785 01:53:46,881 --> 01:53:52,281 it another making money, is that a good thing? 1786 01:53:53,821 --> 01:53:54,821 what can we expect next year or is it going to continue 1787 01:53:54,821 --> 01:53:56,821 in the future. 1788 01:53:58,821 --> 01:53:59,821 they are very involved in the ongoing and daily 1789 01:53:59,821 --> 01:54:03,421 decisions about all of this stuff. 1790 01:54:14,821 --> 01:54:15,821 property management is very much served on the front 1791 01:54:15,821 --> 01:54:16,821 line at each property so the asset management team 1792 01:54:16,821 --> 01:54:17,821 creates the yearly budget as well with the finance 1793 01:54:17,821 --> 01:54:19,821 department that is very involved and clear about what 1794 01:54:19,821 --> 01:54:23,821 numbers need to be met and where the numbers come from. 1795 01:54:23,821 --> 01:54:24,821 the group is creating these budget and monitoring 1796 01:54:24,821 --> 01:54:29,210 whether there being stuck to a budget. 1797 01:54:30,821 --> 01:54:35,621 insulin is useful if you're sticking to it. 1798 01:54:35,821 --> 01:54:36,821 and the group is also looking at tenant issues property 1799 01:54:36,821 --> 01:54:41,621 management handles some things and are the buildings 1800 01:54:42,821 --> 01:54:45,221 being taken care of? 1801 01:54:45,821 --> 01:54:50,621 again, these are large expensive investments and so, 1802 01:55:05,761 --> 01:55:06,761 part of what they need to be concerned about what they 1803 01:55:06,761 --> 01:55:07,761 need to do is these are investments these are our 1804 01:55:07,761 --> 01:55:08,761 factory leases how we run our business. 1805 01:55:08,761 --> 01:55:09,761 are we taking care of our investment? 1806 01:55:09,761 --> 01:55:10,761 that is very much central to what they are doing and 1807 01:55:10,761 --> 01:55:11,761 what they're there for. 1808 01:55:11,761 --> 01:55:12,761 what's the most appropriate way to involve a board of 1809 01:55:12,761 --> 01:55:14,761 commissioners. 1810 01:55:16,761 --> 01:55:17,761 we talked about using your time and expertise 1811 01:55:17,761 --> 01:55:21,961 efficiently and using their time as well. 1812 01:55:31,761 --> 01:55:32,761 nobody want to neglect the things that are important 1813 01:55:32,761 --> 01:55:33,761 nobody wants stuff to get missed but nobody wants to 1814 01:55:33,761 --> 01:55:34,761 have five people doing the same thing over and over 1815 01:55:34,761 --> 01:55:35,761 again. 1816 01:55:35,761 --> 01:55:37,761 what is appropriate, what is comprehensive? 1817 01:55:37,761 --> 01:55:43,761 the part, what we've seen with been working with this 1818 01:55:51,701 --> 01:55:52,701 group and what were seen is how do we make sure that 1819 01:55:52,701 --> 01:55:53,701 what the asset management group spencer time on is the 1820 01:55:53,701 --> 01:55:54,701 right thing. 1821 01:55:54,701 --> 01:55:55,701 when there are new inquiries or analysis to be done are 1822 01:55:55,701 --> 01:55:58,701 those things are actually cannot drive an impact or the 1823 01:55:58,701 --> 01:56:01,701 things that we were esi question have a good answer how 1824 01:56:01,701 --> 01:56:05,701 can they responsibly overseen these properties without 1825 01:56:05,701 --> 01:56:09,301 making extra work or distracting focus. 1826 01:56:22,701 --> 01:56:23,701 in the asset management function is kind of doing new 1827 01:56:23,701 --> 01:56:24,701 assessments they may be less able to do what they are 1828 01:56:24,701 --> 01:56:25,701 regularly and routinely focusing on. 1829 01:56:25,701 --> 01:56:27,701 trying to balance the new demands and existing demands. 1830 01:56:27,701 --> 01:56:32,501 when we work with housing authorities nobody wants 1831 01:56:47,701 --> 01:56:51,641 afflicted with information that sells to interpret 1832 01:56:51,641 --> 01:56:54,641 because there's pretty good evidence to suggest that too 1833 01:56:54,641 --> 01:56:57,641 much data makes bad decision. 1834 01:56:57,641 --> 01:57:01,641 having the right amount of the information that is 1835 01:57:01,641 --> 01:57:05,641 relevant and that you can look at it. 1836 01:57:05,641 --> 01:57:10,441 you already received some you may receive additional 1837 01:57:12,641 --> 01:57:17,641 really the focus is on getting information that lets you 1838 01:57:17,641 --> 01:57:19,641 make the decision 1839 01:59:16,581 --> 01:59:21,981 >> I have a comment and there's a history here. 1840 01:59:24,581 --> 01:59:25,581 because we had several of side projects and we were 1841 01:59:25,581 --> 01:59:28,581 paying for the operating shortfall. 1842 01:59:31,581 --> 01:59:35,581 we found out that we can do that and we had to find the 1843 01:59:35,581 --> 01:59:38,581 funds to cover the property. 1844 01:59:53,521 --> 01:59:58,521 this was a process that we learned a lot about. 1845 01:59:58,521 --> 02:00:02,521 what we need to know just in the general when you're 1846 02:00:02,521 --> 02:00:08,521 looking at the conversation this my going to a dashboard 1847 02:00:11,521 --> 02:00:12,521 really what we need and what we've gotten consistently 1848 02:00:12,521 --> 02:00:13,521 from staff we need to know when there's a potential 1849 02:00:13,521 --> 02:00:15,521 problem and we need to know when several properties are 1850 02:00:15,521 --> 02:00:20,521 upside down and that work and what we had to do to cut 1851 02:00:20,521 --> 02:00:25,921 costs and get our operating flow appropriate console in. 1852 02:00:29,521 --> 02:00:35,521 when there are buyouts at the end with times and issues 1853 02:00:35,521 --> 02:00:41,521 on these prepare properties staff is, what I would like 1854 02:00:44,521 --> 02:00:45,521 to see I don't need to know a lot. 1855 02:00:45,521 --> 02:00:50,321 we already have some information as you mentioned. 1856 02:00:54,461 --> 02:00:55,461 we look at each property and we see some kind of 1857 02:00:55,461 --> 02:00:56,461 information and tell you were going to go upside down or 1858 02:00:56,461 --> 02:00:57,461 anything like that. 1859 02:00:57,461 --> 02:00:58,461 basically what I want first and foremost to be something 1860 02:00:58,461 --> 02:01:03,261 that would be do we have a problem? 1861 02:01:07,461 --> 02:01:12,261 I don't need a lot like a portfolio. 1862 02:01:18,461 --> 02:01:25,461 and they say you have a risk but the risk wasn't remote. 1863 02:01:25,461 --> 02:01:32,610 there's a lot of money over these projects but it wasn't 1864 02:01:32,461 --> 02:01:33,461 a individual canet risk that we had to ask right away. 1865 02:01:33,461 --> 02:01:40,610 I need to think harder but I'm looking at primarily gave 1866 02:01:42,461 --> 02:01:43,461 early warning. 1867 02:01:43,461 --> 02:01:44,461 is there a problem with the property. 1868 02:01:44,461 --> 02:01:45,461 it can be a legal problem and operational problem it can 1869 02:01:45,461 --> 02:01:47,461 be a problem with the folks who counteracted to do the 1870 02:01:47,461 --> 02:01:49,861 property management for us. 1871 02:01:57,401 --> 02:01:58,401 and you guys have been doing a good job of that so I do 1872 02:01:58,401 --> 02:01:59,401 not know what else we need but that was p first thing 1873 02:01:59,401 --> 02:02:01,401 for the dashboard. 1874 02:02:03,401 --> 02:02:04,401 >> I think you're taking it exactly right. 1875 02:02:04,401 --> 02:02:08,401 that is the right question to be asking let me know when 1876 02:02:08,401 --> 02:02:09,401 there's a risk and when it's coming down the pike and 1877 02:02:09,401 --> 02:02:11,801 how real it is. 1878 02:02:12,401 --> 02:02:16,401 and a lot of we've been talking with the crew is I would 1879 02:02:16,401 --> 02:02:17,401 focus on this in particular and different ways of 1880 02:02:17,401 --> 02:02:19,401 displaying it. 1881 02:02:24,401 --> 02:02:25,401 a lot of organization in the industry and a lot that we 1882 02:02:25,401 --> 02:02:29,100 work with do something like that. 1883 02:02:30,401 --> 02:02:31,401 what we call risk rating or just sort of, something 1884 02:02:31,401 --> 02:02:34,401 that's intending to do exactly what describing. 1885 02:02:34,401 --> 02:02:39,201 give a comprehensive look at very different omissions 1886 02:02:54,341 --> 02:02:55,341 were risk can come from. 1887 02:02:55,341 --> 02:02:56,341 financial risk, fire, as their asbestos, physical risk, 1888 02:02:56,341 --> 02:02:57,341 litigation risk, market risk. 1889 02:02:57,341 --> 02:02:58,341 to have a building that they're putting the railroad 1890 02:02:58,341 --> 02:02:59,341 tracks right next door to it. 1891 02:02:59,341 --> 02:03:05,341 those are all risks and those can be tracked easily. 1892 02:03:05,341 --> 02:03:11,941 to be able to distill those and to something that is 1893 02:03:14,341 --> 02:03:15,341 again easy for a viewer to parse on the portfolio level 1894 02:03:15,341 --> 02:03:18,341 so yes, that is something that the organization is 1895 02:03:18,341 --> 02:03:20,741 looking at and incorporate. 1896 02:03:26,341 --> 02:03:27,341 >> the point is, the information that board members are 1897 02:03:27,341 --> 02:03:32,741 regularly getting it's not just about helping you make 1898 02:03:33,341 --> 02:03:38,741 decisions but also about helping you sleep at night. 1899 02:03:40,341 --> 02:03:41,341 so that you will not be surprised. 1900 02:03:41,341 --> 02:03:44,341 you never want to be surprised about a major issue. 1901 02:03:44,341 --> 02:03:47,341 and the type of asset management that we been working 1902 02:03:47,341 --> 02:03:54,541 with his proactive and to make sure we get a met small 1903 02:03:58,281 --> 02:03:59,281 problems and through the process we can certainly feed 1904 02:03:59,281 --> 02:04:03,481 the right proactive information into these dashboard 1905 02:04:06,281 --> 02:04:07,281 reports. 1906 02:04:07,281 --> 02:04:08,281 even if you can't do anything about it or you have to 1907 02:04:08,281 --> 02:04:09,281 make a decision at least you know what's happening and 1908 02:04:09,281 --> 02:04:10,281 you know someone is taking care of it. 1909 02:04:10,281 --> 02:04:14,281 we hear you loud and clearly on that point. 1910 02:04:14,281 --> 02:04:17,881 >> do we have some dashboard options? 1911 02:04:23,281 --> 02:04:24,281 >> I believe we do, yes. 1912 02:04:24,281 --> 02:04:25,281 we do. 1913 02:04:25,281 --> 02:04:27,281 >> sometimes you have is in on a problem. 1914 02:04:27,281 --> 02:04:31,281 if there is a real issue coming up, you just cannot mask 1915 02:04:31,281 --> 02:04:33,281 it. 1916 02:04:35,281 --> 02:04:36,281 sometimes you need a narrative on what's about to happen 1917 02:04:36,281 --> 02:04:41,681 because that's issue may be really big the important 1918 02:04:43,281 --> 02:04:44,281 thing here is a informed. 1919 02:04:44,281 --> 02:04:45,281 were trying to work together make sure you have that 1920 02:04:45,281 --> 02:04:47,281 type are reported. 1921 02:04:48,221 --> 02:04:51,221 >> that kind of leads of what my thought of this report 1922 02:04:51,221 --> 02:04:54,821 is what's really well illustrated here. 1923 02:04:55,221 --> 02:05:00,621 having the substance information for us is critical one 1924 02:05:01,221 --> 02:05:06,221 thing that I would think, it's not liking but one thing 1925 02:05:06,221 --> 02:05:12,221 that brought to mind is that the human element of this 1926 02:05:12,221 --> 02:05:16,221 report and we are dealing on a daily basis families and 1927 02:05:16,221 --> 02:05:18,621 individuals and leaving environments. 1928 02:05:24,221 --> 02:05:29,621 what kind of supportive services are provided for our 1929 02:05:30,221 --> 02:05:36,221 tenants or these tenants on these properties I do not 1930 02:05:38,221 --> 02:05:39,221 want to get into the weeds again you guys have 1931 02:05:39,221 --> 02:05:41,221 incredible staff that sitting with this but, just 1932 02:05:41,221 --> 02:05:46,621 looking at the risk management and the dashboard there. 1933 02:05:57,161 --> 02:05:58,161 that's what was brought to my mind. 1934 02:05:58,161 --> 02:05:59,161 >> we do a yearly report on our services and so I think 1935 02:05:59,161 --> 02:06:05,161 as a part of the dashboard we should take into account 1936 02:06:05,161 --> 02:06:06,161 because there's two things we do. 1937 02:06:06,161 --> 02:06:10,161 the resident survey and then a report from life steps. 1938 02:06:10,161 --> 02:06:11,161 to integrate into this we should look at those reports 1939 02:06:11,161 --> 02:06:17,161 and determine whether yearly is enough, it is for the 1940 02:06:17,161 --> 02:06:20,161 resident survey because we do it once a year. 1941 02:06:20,161 --> 02:06:24,961 but, perhaps some performance measures on the services 1942 02:06:34,161 --> 02:06:35,161 front would be helpful. 1943 02:06:35,161 --> 02:06:36,161 right now they come once a year and we combined it with 1944 02:06:36,161 --> 02:06:37,161 the family self-sufficiency program which can be a 1945 02:06:37,161 --> 02:06:39,161 little bit confusion. 1946 02:06:39,161 --> 02:06:43,161 the family program is under the umbrella of section 8 so 1947 02:06:43,161 --> 02:06:49,101 there's a convenience and having them come in on one day 1948 02:06:49,101 --> 02:06:50,101 and do this report. 1949 02:06:50,101 --> 02:06:51,101 but it could be a little confusion when they merge it 1950 02:06:51,101 --> 02:06:53,101 into one powerpoint. 1951 02:06:57,101 --> 02:06:58,101 we can look at that, that's a helpful comment. 1952 02:06:58,101 --> 02:06:59,101 >> I also want to make sure is that when we look at 1953 02:06:59,101 --> 02:07:03,901 services we look at outcomes and not outputs. 1954 02:07:04,101 --> 02:07:08,301 again, that was one of the criticisms. 1955 02:07:13,101 --> 02:07:19,101 many times we do not see what are the outcomes. 1956 02:07:23,101 --> 02:07:24,101 measurable outcomes. 1957 02:07:24,101 --> 02:07:27,101 >> I conclude with that because I think with asset 1958 02:07:27,101 --> 02:07:33,101 management a property could be improved on the amount I 1959 02:07:35,101 --> 02:07:39,101 don't know, I'm not a realist --realtor but just the 1960 02:07:39,101 --> 02:07:41,501 health of the tenants. 1961 02:07:42,101 --> 02:07:46,301 I think that would improve a property. 1962 02:08:05,101 --> 02:08:06,101 >> may I get a copy of this? 1963 02:08:06,101 --> 02:08:07,101 >> sure. 1964 02:08:07,101 --> 02:08:08,101 we will make it available, absolutely. 1965 02:08:08,101 --> 02:08:09,101 elizabeth the two quick points on that. 1966 02:08:09,101 --> 02:08:10,101 I thought it was a great comment when we think about 1967 02:08:10,101 --> 02:08:11,101 asset management at our company we do not see it as a 1968 02:08:11,101 --> 02:08:13,101 one size fits all function. 1969 02:08:13,101 --> 02:08:14,101 asset management depends on the organization and what's 1970 02:08:14,101 --> 02:08:16,101 important to you. 1971 02:08:17,101 --> 02:08:18,101 we spent a lot of time about the operational aspects 1972 02:08:18,101 --> 02:08:22,901 mainly because we feel that throughout the industry 1973 02:08:24,101 --> 02:08:25,101 there is not enough focus on that especially among 1974 02:08:25,101 --> 02:08:27,101 housing authorities. 1975 02:08:28,101 --> 02:08:32,301 asset management is comprehensive it's really anything 1976 02:08:34,101 --> 02:08:35,101 that affects the health of the community it's not just 1977 02:08:35,101 --> 02:08:39,101 the dollars it's just not sticks and bricks. 1978 02:08:39,101 --> 02:08:43,101 it's also the communities that you're serving and 1979 02:08:43,101 --> 02:08:45,101 resident satisfaction. 1980 02:08:53,410 --> 02:08:54,410 we understand that it's an important piece for them and 1981 02:08:54,410 --> 02:08:55,410 other mission organizations. 1982 02:08:55,410 --> 02:08:58,410 we didn't spend a lot of time talking about that because 1983 02:08:58,410 --> 02:09:04,641 you guys are key in on that and that's what catherine 1984 02:09:08,410 --> 02:09:09,410 was a first them to respond to it because we know that 1985 02:09:09,410 --> 02:09:10,410 you're thinking about it but we are working together to 1986 02:09:10,410 --> 02:09:11,410 make sure it's folded into the dashboards and other 1987 02:09:11,410 --> 02:09:13,410 reporting. 1988 02:09:13,410 --> 02:09:14,410 >> there are some things that are not captured like for 1989 02:09:14,410 --> 02:09:19,441 instance, you mentioned that you were looking at the 1990 02:09:20,410 --> 02:09:24,410 balconies because the contractor in berkeley was also 1991 02:09:24,410 --> 02:09:29,441 doing some balconies --I really appreciate the fact that 1992 02:09:31,410 --> 02:09:34,410 you were proactive and able to go back and look and see 1993 02:09:34,410 --> 02:09:40,641 are we in good condition, do we have a safe balconies? 1994 02:09:44,410 --> 02:09:45,410 >> we started that effort around two years ago and we 1995 02:09:45,410 --> 02:09:47,981 surveyed after there were some students who died in 1996 02:09:47,981 --> 02:09:54,581 berkeley so we surveyed and we happen to use the same 1997 02:09:57,981 --> 02:09:58,981 contractor in our property. 1998 02:09:58,981 --> 02:09:59,981 we did a survey to check out our balconies and there are 1999 02:09:59,981 --> 02:10:04,781 some ongoing repairs which are connected to leaks. 2000 02:10:05,981 --> 02:10:06,981 we didn't do the survey in our housing department report 2001 02:10:06,981 --> 02:10:10,981 two years ago what we don't do is say, and they're still 2002 02:10:10,981 --> 02:10:12,981 okay. 2003 02:10:20,981 --> 02:10:21,981 >> thank you very much for all of you work here. 2004 02:10:21,981 --> 02:10:22,981 I really do, even for some of us will been on the board 2005 02:10:22,981 --> 02:10:24,981 for long time it really provided a reminder of what it 2006 02:10:24,981 --> 02:10:29,981 is that were, what is our role and I really found this 2007 02:10:29,981 --> 02:10:30,981 to be very helpful. 2008 02:10:30,981 --> 02:10:32,981 >> thank you. 2009 02:10:33,981 --> 02:10:35,981 >> another comment. 2010 02:10:36,981 --> 02:10:39,981 these going to balance you? 2011 02:10:40,981 --> 02:10:46,981 or finance a report and so there seen a lot at the end 2012 02:10:46,981 --> 02:10:48,981 of the year. 2013 02:10:53,921 --> 02:10:54,921 they look at those books as well. 2014 02:10:54,921 --> 02:10:57,921 that is an level of finance. 2015 02:10:57,921 --> 02:11:00,921 and you know, you and I meet with jenny before and after 2016 02:11:00,921 --> 02:11:03,921 and talk to them about that. 2017 02:11:03,921 --> 02:11:10,521 we've talked about their view on how the finance and how 2018 02:11:10,921 --> 02:11:13,321 it's been taking care. 2019 02:11:13,921 --> 02:11:14,921 I would say thank you very much for it there's a lot of 2020 02:11:14,921 --> 02:11:20,321 insider information and love the pieces I don't think 2021 02:11:20,921 --> 02:11:21,921 that I fully understand but this is a good summary and 2022 02:11:21,921 --> 02:11:26,921 particularly a board that may not have had the 2023 02:11:26,921 --> 02:11:32,321 opportunity to get their head around a little bit. 2024 02:11:32,921 --> 02:11:35,921 we have a tax credit financing seminar a few years ago 2025 02:11:35,921 --> 02:11:40,121 but, it's helpful to get this information. 2026 02:11:43,921 --> 02:11:44,921 it's nice to know that we simply-having simply just 2027 02:11:44,921 --> 02:11:46,921 don't on the properties and run them. 2028 02:11:46,921 --> 02:11:52,921 I like your dashboard and thank you for your help. 2029 02:11:53,861 --> 02:11:59,861 >> we will go forward and we have a discussion now. 2030 02:12:01,861 --> 02:12:02,861 I'm very aware that were running a little longer we only 2031 02:12:02,861 --> 02:12:03,861 have one little item to do and that is a special meeting 2032 02:12:03,861 --> 02:12:05,861 on the budget. 2033 02:12:11,861 --> 02:12:12,861 with that 2034 02:12:12,861 --> 02:12:13,861 >> this will be to full we are going to present how we 2035 02:12:13,861 --> 02:12:14,861 put together the operating budget for those who may have 2036 02:12:14,861 --> 02:12:17,861 not participated in this process and I think it's a good 2037 02:12:17,861 --> 02:12:18,861 eye here to tack on a close session on labor 2038 02:12:18,861 --> 02:12:20,861 negotiations. 2039 02:12:23,861 --> 02:12:24,861 >> when you propose what day? 2040 02:12:24,861 --> 02:12:28,861 >> were so operating from tuesday so were looking at, I 2041 02:12:28,861 --> 02:12:29,861 need that little handy calendar do you have an extra 2042 02:12:29,861 --> 02:12:31,861 one? 2043 02:12:32,861 --> 02:12:36,861 I think we are looking at june 12 know, excuse me june 2044 02:12:36,861 --> 02:12:39,261 13 which is a tuesday. 2045 02:12:45,861 --> 02:12:46,861 sorry, were not looking at june 13 were looking at june 2046 02:12:46,861 --> 02:12:49,861 20 a week ahead of time. 2047 02:12:55,801 --> 02:12:56,801 we can try to put something together, I think june 6 2048 02:12:56,801 --> 02:12:59,801 might be a little ambitious because that's two weeks 2049 02:12:59,801 --> 02:13:01,801 away. 2050 02:13:07,801 --> 02:13:08,801 tuesday. 2051 02:13:08,801 --> 02:13:09,801 >> what day? 2052 02:13:09,801 --> 02:13:11,801 >> june 20. 2053 02:13:13,801 --> 02:13:14,801 >> I cannot. 2054 02:13:14,801 --> 02:13:15,801 >> can you do the six? 2055 02:13:15,801 --> 02:13:18,801 >> I can do the six. 2056 02:13:19,801 --> 02:13:24,100 or the special meeting for the budget? 2057 02:13:29,801 --> 02:13:30,801 we are going to do two things if you want, how we put 2058 02:13:30,801 --> 02:13:36,801 the operating budget together for folks of not been to 2059 02:13:37,801 --> 02:13:38,801 the budget process with us. 2060 02:13:38,801 --> 02:13:41,801 the second would be a close session on labor. 2061 02:13:41,801 --> 02:13:43,801 june 6? 2062 02:13:58,741 --> 02:14:01,741 >> can you do the six? 2063 02:14:03,741 --> 02:14:04,741 mr. Commissioner can you do the six? 2064 02:14:04,741 --> 02:14:05,741 >> yes. 2065 02:14:05,741 --> 02:14:07,741 >> what time 9:30? 2066 02:14:10,741 --> 02:14:14,341 >> no, we can I do june 6. 2067 02:14:16,741 --> 02:14:20,341 I think liz can't do thursdays. 2068 02:14:23,741 --> 02:14:26,741 can you do thursday the 15th? 2069 02:14:26,741 --> 02:14:28,741 >> 15th, yes. 2070 02:14:30,741 --> 02:14:33,741 can you do the 15th? 2071 02:14:44,741 --> 02:14:47,681 you might make it for the special meeting-haven't 2072 02:14:47,681 --> 02:14:48,681 session. 2073 02:14:48,681 --> 02:14:51,681 >> is your hearing in the morning? 2074 02:14:51,681 --> 02:14:54,810 that is far away. 2075 02:14:56,681 --> 02:15:00,281 >> let's do it on the 15th. 2076 02:15:00,681 --> 02:15:01,681 okay 2077 02:15:01,681 --> 02:15:03,681 >> 9:30? 2078 02:15:49,621 --> 02:15:54,421 >> I really have to leave in a minute. 2079 02:16:00,621 --> 02:16:02,621 >> are we adjourn? 2080 02:16:08,621 --> 02:16:11,621 we will adjourn the meeting.