[0:00] Yes. [0:07] I just found out I have the house. It's going to take me half materials. [0:15] [laughter] [0:25] Sorry. Anybody else being hassled? [0:33] We'll call the uh Houston County working session to order. [0:45] Look like we've got 11 commissioners here. [0:51] Got notaries. Next week we'll have a new one. Miss an Mville, Deborah Kent, and [0:58] Brandy Rose. [1:03] Any questions on those? [1:09] Next, you got public comments. Anybody got public comment? Anybody sign up for [1:15] public comment? Come on up. If you signed up, we we got [1:20] uh we'll give you three minutes [1:24] per person. [1:40] » Come on up where you can address the commission here. Yeah. [1:45] » Good afternoon. I'm Natasha Douglas. I'm here on behalf of Light Path Enrichment. [1:52] Um, I wanted to say that the program that Miss Tabitha and Light Path [1:58] Enrichment has provided for the community is [2:04] at a point greater than anything for our family that we've experienced on the [2:10] community level for our family. We've been a part of her program for two years [2:15] now. This is our second year um being part of um multiple programs that she [2:20] offers um for her enrichment and her tutoring. [2:25] Um I want to say that um her program is very beneficial not only [2:33] to our family but other community family members um families because she provides [2:39] an opportunity for children to be exposed to different individuals that [2:45] have different learning um teachings to help them understand concepts and um [2:53] subjects that in a traditional setting um cause them [2:57] to not be um confident or um knowledgeable in what they're doing. And [3:05] what Miss Tabitha then path offers is the opportunity to expose those children [3:10] and students and um families to alternative [3:17] viewpoints on how to complete a math problem, multiplication tables, um [3:24] learning your adjectives or adverbs or pronouns. Um the benefit that she brings [3:29] to the community and outweighs any financial gain. um she uh may be a [3:37] for-profit company, but any profit that she would [3:42] acquire immediately goes back into the program to build up the supplies and the [3:47] resources that all these children have access to. Also with what they have [3:52] available for um the casual care tutoring and enrichment [3:59] um a lot of the other child care programs and um tutoring require at [4:05] least three days to participate in a program or you have to meet a special [4:08] qualification. This allows those families that may not [4:12] be able to financially have a child in child care for three days a week the [4:16] option to have it for two for like a parent day out to help them go [4:20] volunteer, look for jobs, complete a job, what may have you. And the [4:25] enrichment allows other children to get direction enrichment from other [4:30] individuals um to help teach them and guide them. [4:35] » Thank you. >> Thank you. [4:40] Give me a chair. [4:45] » Anybody else with public comment? Uh, you got Miss Is Miss Anna Locker here? [4:55] » You got three minutes. M. [5:02] [clears throat] >> Okay. I'm gonna talk louder. [5:05] » Give her a mic up there. Yeah, I'm just gonna say it out loud. Uh, my family and [5:11] I moved to Aaron in November of last year and our house is just right up the [5:15] hill up there. You can see it from here. Um, Aaron has welcomed us with open arms [5:20] and we have been so grateful. Um, sorry it's emotional. Life path has been a [5:26] huge part of that for us. um and Miss Tabitha Bagot. They have been a huge [5:31] source of support for us and a growing foundation for us here in Aaron. My [5:36] husband and I are both working self-employed parents um for several [5:41] reasons like a lot of families in Houston County. We have chosen to [5:45] homeschool our daughter. Um and it would not be possible without Black Pass [5:51] support. Um we came from Nashville and in years prior we had a lot of options [5:56] to choose from. um in the homeschool support world. Um and when we reached [6:01] Aaron, we had no idea how we were going to manage working and having both of our [6:05] girls at home with us. Um so we began to pray [6:09] uh and we prayed for an option that was going to be flexible, affordable, [6:14] available, convenient, align with our faith, and align with our need to [6:18] homeschool. And Light Path was and still is an answer to that prayer for us. uh [6:24] without it we would be making significant sacrifice in terms of [6:27] commute affordability uh faith in our approach to our [6:31] daughter's learning um light path also offers us the [6:35] opportunity to have qualified and gifted teachers spending time with our daughter [6:38] and other Houston county students as well can benefit from this their [6:42] tutoring programs our oldest daughter is significantly above her grade level in [6:46] several uh subjects and so white path has allowed us the option of being able [6:51] to work with her and meet her right where she is in her level uh and keep [6:54] our challenged and stimulated and loved on as well and that's meant a lot to us [6:58] as parents. Uh the environment is calm, small, and collaborative and that's just [7:03] what we needed. I represent only one family, but I know I also rep represent [7:08] many more in this county. Um many others in Houston County need for the same [7:13] reasons that we do. Flexibility, affordability, availability, faith, and [7:18] a unique educational environment. So, please consider my words as you navigate [7:23] life paths um occupancy needs. >> Thank you, [7:31] Miss Chris. >> Childers. Yeah, you're ahead. Um I'm [7:35] Christa Childers. I have known Miss Taco for quite a long time. My child has [7:42] always had a little bit of a struggle since he was itty bitty, which is how I [7:47] actually met this type of thing. Um, my child has struggled all through school. [7:54] I have debated homeschooling relatively long time. I work full-time. My [7:58] husband's a trucker, so me physically doing homeschool at home was not an [8:04] option. And then one day I just happened to see Miss Tabitha's [8:09] um post or whatever it was at the time um about her program and I went and went [8:18] to the orientation and I can honestly say it's been the best thing for my [8:23] child. He has caught up to where he needs to be and should be even though he [8:29] has never really loved school, but he he does it and he thrives and he [8:38] does everything that I need him to do. His tala has made a world of difference [8:43] for my child, my family. Um I mean it's affordable for us. Um, [8:52] you know, it's I can't express enough how much of a difference this program [8:57] has made for my kids. Um, I guess that's it. [9:05] » Thank you. >> I thank Mr. Rosie. [9:15] I have [9:19] water. Hey, I do have a question. Uh, it's not [9:23] [clears throat] the first time. Don't listen to me. Nothing wrong. Why we just [9:27] getting this agenda? I'm reading this little TCA thing. [9:32] » Sorry, you're gonna have to speak. >> My question is why we just now get this [9:38] agenda. According to TCA 8-44-110 at least 48 hours at least 48 hours [9:47] before regular meeting a state governing body or a local but you guys governing [9:52] body shall make available to the public. Now I don't know what's the problem is [9:56] and maybe we should know but this is not the first time we have agendas late in [10:00] the day and I get the agenda which is great but what are these resolutions [10:04] about? Shouldn't we as taxpayers able to look at this prior to the meeting? And [10:08] so when we come up here, we can ask questions or give our support or not [10:13] give our support. It doesn't make sense to me. I mean, with the new [10:17] commissioners, you can look into that. I know you all go to CASS cost of $3 a [10:22] pop. I don't understand why it's like this. I mean, we got money going out. A [10:26] lot of good causes here. Some I don't know, but I wouldn't know what to do if [10:30] I don't read the resolutions and get the agenda over time. It's a law. That's all [10:35] I'm asking. Follow the law. If there's an issue, then government officials look [10:39] into it. If the staff needs help, give them a hand. They don't work for you. We [10:43] don't work for you. You work for the people. You work for the county [10:46] employees. Have a good meeting. [10:52] » Hi, commissioners. I set the agenda. I passed out. So, um, we are trying to [10:57] transition into the website where we don't have to send emails. Um, there's [11:02] been back and forth with our Outlook being down. I think I've lost Outlook [11:06] five, six times over this fiscal year. Um, which wipes all my contacts [11:10] completely out. I read manually into those. Um, we've lost some staffing. [11:15] But, um, one of our goals of the mayor's office is to get our county website uh, [11:20] utilized where I don't have to email you all. I don't email the public. It can be [11:25] posted on there. So, um, I I would like y'all to consider um, helping this [11:31] office try to do that in the future. So we will have less of these issues going [11:36] forward. [11:44] » Any other public comment? [11:49] Next, under old business, uh [11:55] we uh [12:02] [clears throat] first thing I need to do is do a roll call. Uh [12:08] William Ay >> here. [12:11] » Chris Pitz >> here. [12:13] » Ed Hardrove >> here. [12:14] » Random French >> here. [12:16] » Steve Black >> here. Jimmy Bass, [12:19] » yes. >> Vicky Rey, [12:21] » present. >> Howard Spurgeon [12:24] » here. >> Kim R [12:25] » here. I [12:28] » can't think of your first name. I know you're Miss Reynolds. [12:31] » Don Miss Donna >> here. [12:34] » Glenn Bagot >> here. [12:35] » Jeff Matis >> here. [12:38] » Got 12 present. Under old business. Uh [12:45] it's uh last Friday we received a phone call and email from ECD. [12:52] I reached out to them about three weeks ago asking for some more money for the [12:57] parking lot, pay for the parking lot and asked me how much we needed and I told [13:01] them they told us that they couldn't give us so much. The figure we came up [13:06] was about 200,000. So I told them that would be great if we [13:10] could get it. So, we got a call Friday. They gave us 250,000. [13:15] So, we're going to get another 250 and that should almost pay for the parking [13:20] lot, but uh that was good news to get >> and [13:28] they're going to put the stone and the fabric down and all that. They're [13:32] » the bad dirt out of it. >> They've already dug the dirt out where [13:35] the wet spot was at. Uh they've got the stone. If you look out there now, you [13:40] can see the stone and I've got the fabric under it. They're going to pour [13:44] it Monday or Tuesday next week. They pour about 12 15 foot section here on [13:49] the end. Then they're going to pour all that next Monday or Tuesday what he told [13:53] me today. And they'll guarantee that to hole. [13:59] But never would have thought of a wet spot being there, but it was pretty [14:03] soft. [14:07] But um under new business, we got the resolution 38. [14:14] That's the support American Legion be the one campaign that Mr. Bag is [14:19] involved with that. >> Well, yes. Um [14:24] as everybody should be aware, uh September is suicide prevention month. [14:29] And about four years ago, the American Legion started the Be the One program, [14:34] which initially um focused on veteran suicide. We lose approximately 22 [14:41] veterans every day. They've since expanded that program to cover first [14:47] responders, anybody that anybody that in a high-risk job or or may suffer from [14:54] suicidal thoughts. The amendment that we are proposing is one that we have sent [15:00] out to every post in the state. Every every county in the state has received [15:04] it. Um, and we're asking to support the veterans the the the bean program. Um, [15:12] if you're not aware, we have a a legends race car up in Nashville and he goes all [15:17] over. He is our uh [clears throat] Mr. Ed Boy is our be the one ambassador for [15:24] the state. uh and he goes everywhere and talks about suicide prevention. The [15:29] Legion has several programs uh for be the one is intended to be the one [15:38] they call when they're having suicidal thoughts. So, uh, we're just asking the [15:43] county and it it doesn't cost anything county, uh, to support that resolution [15:48] and, uh, the state already is the state legislature has already passed it. And, [15:53] um, I believe March 1st is the one day in Tennessee. [16:01] That's it. Any questions for that? [16:07] Uh next you got resolution 39 the cont contract pass student [16:14] enrichment and learning center. Any discussions on that? [16:20] » Um looking at the resolution on the second [16:25] paragraph um it's the last sentence for purpose of [16:32] providing nonprofit and public benefit. I think that needs to be corrected [16:37] profit because they're not nonprofit. [16:44] » I don't know how the committee feels about that. [16:54] » We've actually already had a public comment there. Ma'am, what where you [17:00] all she's asking about is a is a word a couple of words in [17:05] » Yeah, I was um given the contract on Friday and I just had a lot of [17:09] questions. Should I wait to do that next week? [17:19] » She's got to ask her questions. >> I'm sorry. She has I mean to to satisfy [17:25] her she has got to ask the questions if she's got them. [17:28] » That a big thing. >> But uh in my opinion [17:31] » I agree but we we have this for a reason. [17:34] » Yeah we do. >> Um but remember that's a one way. [17:38] » Yeah. >> Attorney isn't here to answer her [17:41] question. >> That's right. [17:42] » So >> we can't answer for attorney. [17:45] » Exactly. >> Go ahead. Go ahead and come up here. I [17:48] mean, >> come on. [17:53] » We can't answer legal questions. I know. >> Okay. [17:58] » Yes. [18:02] » So, originally when I was given my first contract, it's very small, pretty plain [18:09] and simple and to the point. Um, I'm still offering the exact same services [18:13] that I was offering when the original contract was given to me. So, um, [18:19] there's a lot of things that's in my new contract that is not mentioned in my [18:23] first contract. So, that was kind of one of my questions is why a whole book now [18:28] when at first I was just given this little thing. I'm doing all the same [18:31] things. Nothing has changed except I was a partnership and now I am a sle [18:35] proprietorship. Outside of that question, I do have um [18:41] first of all, as far as the location goes, and I don't know if this really [18:45] matters, but it has it listed as 213 College Street. Upon checking with um [18:50] the tax office, and then actually Greater Dixon Gas Authority told me when [18:55] I had the gas put in my name, it actually should be 235 College Street [19:00] instead of 213. [19:10] under the um [clears throat] reversion to monthtomonth. [19:15] I was going to see if somebody can explain that to me better like if if you [19:20] guys agree for me to do this. Am I for sure here for six months or [19:26] could you end it before the six months was over? Like I don't understand that [19:29] paragraph that's on that second page. reversion to monthtomonth. [19:34] I just need that explained to me. [20:01] Like the mayor said, we cannot answer legal questions. [20:03] » Okay. I didn't know if that was a legal question. [20:06] » Okay, that's fine. Um, [20:18] it's telling me that I'm going to have to um do quarterly reporting every three [20:24] months telling the items set forth below. Um, but it does not give me like [20:29] any type of reporting deadline. It doesn't say when this will be due. [20:34] [laughter] Um, so I just need to know when exactly [20:37] am I know three months, but like what day of the month or when am I supposed [20:41] to submit those documents, >> mayor, where our lawyer will be here? [20:46] Next Monday night. >> You'll be here Monday night. [20:48] » Let's let's just table this to next Monday night. We're going to waste time. [20:52] » We're not voting on anything tonight anyway. We're just, [20:55] » you know, I appreciate the concern, but I don't know. We are absolutely lost. [20:59] » Why don't you get Charles maybe to come just a little bit early? [21:04] » Have you not talked Have you not reached out to attorney at all? [21:06] » I have. I've reached out to the attorney multiple times. Um I asked him if I [21:10] could come to his office and have a meeting with him. He did not see he [21:15] didn't seem like that he wanted me to do that. And I asked him about my contract [21:19] and he said you guys had it. So I was given the contract Friday evening and [21:23] then yesterday was holiday. So, I've just had over the weekend to look over [21:27] the contract myself. Therefore, I have questions. But I didn't know that Mr. [21:31] Attorney wasn't going to be here tonight. So, I thought is Tuesday night [21:34] not when he's going to be here? It's going to be Monday night. [21:36] » It's next Tuesday night when I meet. >> Okay. I'll just come back in. [21:42] » I would ask you to reach back out to him tomorrow if you can't get in call. [21:46] » Okay. Thank you. >> Mr. Mayor, [21:50] » I I too had some questions about the contract. I did me sent them email to [21:57] Charles. >> Yes. [21:58] » I have not heard back from him either. So, [22:01] » okay. >> I can mention him now or we missed let [22:04] Charles wait through it. >> I think if it's a Charles question, we [22:08] need to ask Charles. >> Yeah. One one applies kind of what is [22:13] the is the is the county remaining responsible for maintaining the [22:18] building? I mean, roof leaks or whatever. [22:24] We are okay. So, we've got we're holding the tenant responsible for mold. Mold [22:30] generally is a moisture problem. I I don't think it's appropriate to hold [22:35] them responsible for mold when it's more to the county's performance on building [22:40] maintenance accounts or absence of mold. [22:48] » Well, okay. I'm going to throw my two cents [22:52] out. I think it's a great program, but [clears throat] I do not believe it [22:56] belongs in the county buildings because the damage, etc., the potential [23:04] lawsuits to the county against the county if something goes wrong, it's [23:09] just too great. Understand? And so I would suggest that, you know, if there [23:15] be some way that it could go back to a church or a building, another building, [23:21] that's fine. And I I think that's great. But against putting a county building, [23:27] all we're doing is opening the door to for a lawsuit. [23:30] » I got a question. Did we put them in that building, the county commission [23:33] commission? >> We gave them access to a temporary [23:36] basis. So this lay [23:40] » that's all I want to say. >> Well, there's some guidelines in here [23:45] officially now that have to be adhered to and they're not just ours. They're [23:49] also the state. [23:54] » That's what I'm saying. We all just seen this tonight. [23:59] » What about carry general liability policy with an umbrella for the county? [24:05] » That's right. [24:10] So, there's a termination. Uh, Lacy has a 45day termination, right? But then you [24:16] read the text, it says 60 days notice. To me, that didn't make sense. I think [24:20] it should be 45 days notice. Good. And then if you go to the [24:29] uh executive lease package summary on back package uh item one [24:38] um seems to be in tension with the lease terms. One it says an automatic in the [24:47] executive lease package summary. It's an automatic month-to-month conversion. you [24:52] can reach the three lease terms. Uh they only automatically terminates at [24:57] [clears throat] the end of six months. So that [25:01] that's not too [25:18] Any [25:26] other discussion on this? [25:35] [cough] [clears throat] [25:38] Next, you got resolution 40 to transfer $749 to correct payroll into election [25:44] part-time personnel election commission. Any [25:53] question? [25:58] Next, you got resolution 41 appropriate 14,000 to county buildings maintenance [26:05] and repair buildings. [26:11] Correct. That's what we paid for the air. That's [26:15] actually what we paid for the air conditioner out of our county buildings. [26:20] And it's left us with a zero ballot in our county building. We have to have an [26:24] emergency at the sheriff's office. We had to put air conditioners in. [26:31] We're just asking to put the money back. >> Replenishing that reserve. [26:36] » I'm sorry. >> This is just replenishing the reserve. [26:39] » That's correct. their reserves is is down to almost zero [26:46] and I'm sure we'll have some more issues with housing. [26:52] Uh next resolution 42 connected communities facility change [26:57] order number eight incorporation of $13,936. [27:02] I think Mr. Howard re talked to the contractor Mr. Ry about that. [27:09] They had a this was the uh amount that taking the option we did to resolve the [27:16] soft spot in the parking area out there. The other option was to tip deeper and [27:22] put more rock and all in. That was a $20,000 [clears throat] [27:27] option and the contractor would guarantee this if something falls [27:32] through they'll come back. So [27:38] there is a typo in the third line where first [27:45] parking that area [27:58] where you say it was Mr. What? >> Uh first whereas third line check [28:07] if parking be that [28:15] just whether it's in that area or something. [28:24] Get that down right. Any [28:30] other [clears throat] discussions on that? [28:33] Next, you got resolution 43, approve FY27 contract for service from the state [28:39] of Tennessee through UT extension. [28:47] Any questions on that? [28:53] So Joey, this has got an effective day of July 1st. I'm the new guy here. What [28:58] is that normal? It's always [29:04] » Yes, it's all right. [29:12] » Any questions? Any other questions? [29:17] Next you got resolution 44 amend FY27 initiative school mobile model grant [29:25] budgets for both the high school and middle school. [29:32] Any questions on this? [29:38] The school superintendent is here if you need a question. Next we got resolution [29:43] 45 appropriate $78,60 for Tennessee children grant. [29:51] Any questions on this [29:56] question? I know this for middle school [30:04] just for elementary [30:10] school. We apply that all these grants. We apply for every grant we can. We're [30:15] managing probably 12 and 15 grants right now. [30:26] And I I don't know. I know these are new commission, but I don't know what Rachel [30:31] puts in there, but I try to send a memo out [30:35] of grants and stuff. [30:39] Good. [30:45] Any other questions on this? Next, you got resolution 46, amend [30:51] transition school to work project budget amendment $48,539.50. [31:02] » Any questions on that? >> What is that? [31:06] » The work to school program. What is it? gets out and [31:12] exposed and things like that. But the reason that 48,539 [31:19] is there is we thought it was going to be person. [31:25] So we're moving it back into HUD. So we're actually putting it back into our [31:31] » Have you had this before? >> Yes. [31:33] » And where would the kids go to >> different businesses? They make them all [31:37] over the place. I get field trips all the time. [31:40] » Is it like a visit thing where they work here after school or something or [31:45] » I think it's mostly just >> Okay. Just expose them to industry and [31:50] could potentially influence their career choice. [31:59] » Any other questions? Next we got resolution 47 appropriate [32:05] $90,000 for the literacy materials implementation [32:12] support grant. That's another school. [32:18] Any question on that? [32:24] Next we got resolution 48, access for all learning network [32:30] appropriation of $50,000. [32:34] Any questions on that? [32:39] Next, we got resolution 49, TVA donation appropriation of $1,200. [32:46] Any questions on that? [32:54] Next, you got resolution 50, awarding of the renaming competition for the armory. [33:00] We'll be voting on that Tuesday night. >> I have the resolution that I'm passing [33:04] on that that identifies the uh the four that the tourism committee came up with [33:12] out of the 30 >> 38 38 days. [33:19] [laughter] [33:24] We will whittle it down to one Tuesday night. [33:31] » This is what >> this is for the renaming of the armor. [33:35] Jimmy, uh the tourism committee met at 5 this afternoon and they it was 38 [33:41] entries. They narrowed it down to four. They're going to let the commit the [33:45] whole commission will pick one of the four for the new name of the National [33:50] Army. [33:53] » Hey, mayor. >> Yes, sir. [33:55] » I apologize, but stepping back up to 12. Is it $1,200 for $1,250? [34:03] » Um, I'm looking at,200, but >> 1250. [34:07] » Is it 1250? >> 1250. [34:11] » Okay. And I got 1,200 on mine. >> That's what I've got on the agenda. But [34:16] when you go to the resolution, it's got >> 1250. Okay. [34:20] I need to correct that. >> Also on the resolution for 50, there's [34:25] four instead of three names because I had two that tied. Is that correct? [34:31] » That is correct. [34:35] » I need to know [34:40] the resolution. have a third place. Are they splitting it? Are they [34:45] just the fourth not being awarded? [34:50] » That's a question. >> That's a good question. [34:53] » Yes, the first place was uh 250, second was 125, third was 75, but we did have a [35:01] tie between the third and fourth place names that were there. [35:07] » Commission choose top three. >> You will choose the top three. Yes. And [35:12] of course it's all blind. Committee had no idea who did what. So [35:20] » So next week will choose three. >> Tonight you will vote for one, two, [35:27] three or four. Whatever you put them in. That's whoever gets the most votes. [35:31] That's the one that'll be. >> So it still just be three places. [35:36] » We're paying three places. That's what Rachel's asking is that do we [35:43] split the third place or keep it like it is and fourth gets done? [35:49] » Well, that's I I think if it's a tie in third and fourth place, they get the [35:56] same. If it's a tie difference, [36:04] » well, actually, it wouldn't make that much difference. you know, the full [36:07] legislative body votes on that because there may not be a time. You may have [36:12] one, two, and three. So, [36:16] » I think we just [36:29] » Any other discussion on that? you will vote one through four and we'll [36:35] tally votes up and hopefully we won't have a tie. If we do, [36:41] we'll go through it again. [laughter] [36:46] Next, you got your reports. You got your judicial commission report. [36:51] Got your 911 report. You got your library report [36:56] and your school portal report. Judicial commission reports got a lot. [37:14] » Any questions on the report? [37:22] » If no question, I need a motion to >> I got a question. Mayor, uh, what about [37:27] the truck from the contractor we talked about a few weeks ago? [37:31] » Yeah. Anything coming to life? Is that it? [37:33] » He told me the end of September 1st, October. [37:37] » And I'm going to hold him to the end of [37:41] September. I will be calling him somewhere around the 20th myself if I [37:45] hadn't heard. >> He said the end of September 1st [37:48] October. [37:51] and Kender Morgan on that. Kinder Morgan came last Thursday and they brought a [37:59] check for us for $20,000 to buy the two new scoreboards for the school. [38:04] » We thank them for that. >> They've done pretty good to our [38:09] community and they say they will do more later. [38:14] » They're going to be here a while. >> They put the line in. They will maintain [38:19] the gas line. And we still will be collecting tax revenue. [38:25] » Yes, he's supposed to uh get me a number on how much we'll probably get the first [38:31] year. I have not got it yet, but he did tell me that last Thursday. He didn't [38:36] get that number for me. I hope we have it before next Tuesday to let y'all know [38:41] about what we'll be expecting. >> Will that be off the volume of gas that [38:44] goes through? >> No, it's actually will be off the [38:47] depreciation of the line. >> Okay. the gas sale will and and I I was [38:53] thinking the gas sales but he said it's a depreciation of the line [39:00] which evidently that might be a little more [39:09] » but u any if no other questions get a motion [39:15] to adjourn. >> Mr. Fridge is already done. I'll second [39:18] it. >> All in favor? [39:32] » Everybody [39:39] has everybody got their committees. No. [39:43] » What have you