1 00:00:05,279 --> 00:00:11,120 All right, 5:30 on the dot. I will call the regular city of White Lakes council 2 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:13,120 meeting for Tuesday, uh, September 8th to order. Roll call, please. 3 00:00:13,100 --> 00:00:14,400 [clears throat] >> Councelor Gramps, 4 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:15,360 » here. >> Jarbala, 5 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:16,880 » here. >> Hecman, 6 00:00:16,080 --> 00:00:17,920 » here. >> Mat, 7 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:19,680 » here. >> Mayor Scott, 8 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:21,600 » here. >> Quorum. 9 00:00:20,240 --> 00:00:24,600 » All right. Please stand for the pledge of 10 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:35,440 » I allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic 11 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:41,879 for which it stands. One nation under God, [clears throat] indivisible with 12 00:00:38,879 --> 00:00:41,879 all. 13 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:52,079 All righty. Um so we have a public hearing. So the um kind of flow of our 14 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:57,280 usual meetings um is a little different. So we will put a pause to the regular 15 00:00:54,239 --> 00:01:03,680 city council meeting and we will um open up the public hearing. So could we 16 00:00:59,039 --> 00:01:06,680 please have a roll call for that please? >> Here 17 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:20,040 » all right. Um, so yeah, before us is ordinance 249, 18 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:26,640 uh, amending the official zoning map of the city of Lakes to reclassify certain 19 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:33,280 part parcels to the R5 and R six residential districts. Um, so the 20 00:01:30,159 --> 00:01:38,479 council has provided with a packet just kind of going over that ordinance. We 21 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:42,479 have um it in the back there too if you haven't read through the ordinance or 22 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:50,720 are wondering about that uh resoning or ordinance change. Um so with the R5 and 23 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:57,680 R six piece of it, so R5 will be um looking at reszoning the B uh Bose 24 00:01:53,280 --> 00:02:02,960 school lot. Um so for those wondering R5 um would include um with a conditional 25 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:07,280 use permit a single family dwelling and then permitted by right would be uh two 26 00:02:05,439 --> 00:02:11,920 family dwelling uh town home dwelling and then uh 27 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:16,879 cluster development um dwelling. Uh this wouldn't include um multiple family 28 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:20,239 dwelling. So those are like your apartment buildings and things like 29 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:25,040 that. So I know that's um what a lot of folks had questions about. Um so with 30 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:29,360 the Bose school with this resoning it would not include u multiple family 31 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:34,480 dwellings. So your things like um apartments so not like this big um 32 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:39,840 building like um Irongate or those different sorts of things. Um so that's 33 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:45,120 what that would include. Um and then the other um area that would be reszoned um 34 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:54,800 would be R six and that's over by the Methodist Church um cemetery water tower 35 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:59,519 area. Um and R six would include um with a conditional use permit single family 36 00:02:56,400 --> 00:03:03,519 dwelling and then um with permitted by right would include uh town home 37 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:09,840 dwelling cluster development and then multiple family dwelling. Um 38 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:15,200 so we've the council um the planning and zoning commission has been working with 39 00:03:11,920 --> 00:03:21,120 a housing um group for the past year or so um free of charge um I think the 40 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:24,400 funds came from the state or the county or state 41 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:30,080 » um so they're they're experts they've worked for the the county in different 42 00:03:26,239 --> 00:03:38,080 areas so they went through um our different zoning um 43 00:03:34,319 --> 00:03:43,440 areas and gave recommendations. Um so that's [clears throat] in working with 44 00:03:40,159 --> 00:03:50,959 them. Um this is kind of one of the ideas that um was brought about. Um 45 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:56,159 yeah. So is there anybody that has anything to say regarding that ordinance 46 00:03:54,080 --> 00:04:00,159 change? So this isn't our our public forum like we do with our regular 47 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:05,680 council meeting. This is to speak to um that reszoning or that ordinance. 48 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:09,040 Um, I don't know. So, I guess for me 49 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:12,879 personally, and I think a lot of people on the council too, in talking with 50 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:17,600 residents or residents that have emailed us or whatever, um, a lot of older 51 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:24,240 residents are looking to, um, downsize or look for, um, 52 00:04:21,199 --> 00:04:29,759 housing that's like single single floor. Um, a lot of people are looking for like 53 00:04:26,479 --> 00:04:34,800 firsttime homeo homeowners. Um, so ideally that's what I mean we can't say 54 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:41,280 which um developer would come in and build. Um, but that's what I would hope 55 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:47,440 for um or what I would wish if it was up to us um to have this sort of building 56 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:51,520 there cuz a lot of people are older folks are leaving their their homes and 57 00:04:49,280 --> 00:04:57,280 moving over to to like apartment buildings in Virginia um because there 58 00:04:55,040 --> 00:05:02,000 isn't that sort of housing here. Um, and then the Kenwood apartments, um, from my 59 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:07,199 understanding, there's a fairly long wait list, so people can't move into 60 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:12,240 there. So, this is a way of, um, addressing those needs or wants from 61 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:17,720 people that are wanting to live here or stay here or move here. 62 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:17,720 Um, 63 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:25,759 that covers about everything. >> Anything else that 64 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:30,000 » No, I think you covered it all. been working on this for almost a year 65 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:34,720 now. So, it's nice to get to this point. >> Um, and another big thing for for cities 66 00:05:33,199 --> 00:05:38,240 too, building housing and having more 67 00:05:36,639 --> 00:05:42,800 residents move into town as a way to kind of widen your your tax base, there 68 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:47,600 isn't a ton of ways cities can can make money. Um, so if there's more residents 69 00:05:45,199 --> 00:05:52,320 in town, there's more um taxpayers in town, which means there's hopefully less 70 00:05:49,919 --> 00:05:58,560 that each household um would be paying for um taxes and um water, waste water, 71 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:04,840 trash, those different sorts of things. So that would be the hope also just 72 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:04,840 widening that tax base. 73 00:06:06,319 --> 00:06:10,639 Um >> I haven't gotten any word from the city 74 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:17,280 of Potter County on >> Oh, yeah. Thanks for the question. Um, 75 00:06:13,759 --> 00:06:22,880 so we have been talking to um the county about the city purchasing it straight 76 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:27,440 from um from the county. Um Dean and I have a meeting with them on Thursday, I 77 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:31,360 believe, Thursday morning. >> Um and hopefully, yeah, we can figure 78 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:35,440 something out where we just purchased the land cuz I guess that was my fear. 79 00:06:33,840 --> 00:06:40,160 Um when it was [clears throat] getting demolished, it got demolished. We kind 80 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:45,440 of talked with the the county and we had um commissioners and legislators helping 81 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:49,759 out with that and making that um making that making sure that was completed. But 82 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:55,440 my big concern was once it was gone, who's going to buy that land and do what 83 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:59,759 with it? Um, so that's with us reaching out to the county and working with them 84 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:03,759 is if it's in the the city's control, we can kind of decide what goes there, us 85 00:07:01,280 --> 00:07:07,360 and residents rather than um it going up for public auction and then just some 86 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:10,479 private individual buying it and either not doing anything with it. So then 87 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:14,560 there's those big mounds of dirt and big divots there that are never taken care 88 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:19,199 of or they build some sort of housing that um people aren't wanting in the 89 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:22,720 area. Um because I know that was a big concern when we were first kind of 90 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:27,520 undertaking this was a lot of folks were worried about some sort of big apartment 91 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:31,039 complex going up there. Um and with the resoning that that wouldn't allow that. 92 00:07:29,759 --> 00:07:35,759 Um which is good. >> Giving you a timeline. 93 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:41,039 » No. So yeah, we're meeting again with the county on Thursday. I guess the 94 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:44,560 intention would be for the city to buy it. So then again, we can control what 95 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:49,120 goes there. Um, and we've kind of used that as a bargaining chip too with the 96 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:52,479 housing piece of it. Um, because if there's more taxpayers within the city, 97 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:57,599 there's also more taxpayers within the county. Um, so it would be in kind of 98 00:07:54,560 --> 00:08:01,840 their best interest to sell the land to the city. Um, so we've been using that 99 00:08:00,319 --> 00:08:08,000 as kind of a bargaining chip with the county also. Um, but again, yeah, not a 100 00:08:05,599 --> 00:08:11,599 for sure thing. they for folks that live around the B school, it sounded like 101 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:15,440 they had gotten some sort of notice that it was going up for a public auction. Um 102 00:08:13,919 --> 00:08:18,319 sounded like a mistake that was a mistake reaching out to them and we got 103 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:21,440 that all figured out. So, it's not going up for public auction. So, we're going 104 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:26,479 to continue talking with them and hopefully um figure out some sort of um 105 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:30,639 way for the city just to purchase it straight from the county rather than it 106 00:08:27,919 --> 00:08:37,440 going up for public auction and risk um whoever buying it. 107 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:41,039 I think they had has it been appraised? >> I think they had it 108 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:43,839 » at one point, but it's they're using the estimated market value off the tax 109 00:08:42,560 --> 00:08:48,000 statement right now. >> I think that's around 50 grand. 110 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:51,680 » Um, and there's different reserves and 111 00:08:49,901 --> 00:08:55,839 [snorts] things you can pull from to purchase the land with that. 112 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:58,640 » Yeah. >> Question. 113 00:08:56,480 --> 00:09:01,440 » Yeah. Could you repeat the types of housing in the area with a Methodist 114 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:08,000 church? >> Yes. Um so that would be R six. A 115 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:11,279 Methodist church again R six. Um that would be with a conditional use permit 116 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:15,839 single family dwelling and then with permitted by right that would include um 117 00:09:13,839 --> 00:09:19,680 town home dwelling uh a cluster development and then multiple family 118 00:09:17,839 --> 00:09:24,000 dwelling. So that would be more of like your apartment like um Kenwood 119 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:27,839 Apartments or something like that. And that would be more back in like kind of 120 00:09:25,519 --> 00:09:30,880 the woods kind of like with how um the Kenwood apartments are kind of set up 121 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:34,560 now where it's not like in the middle of town. It would be more like in a wooded 122 00:09:32,959 --> 00:09:39,040 area. And in talking with those housing folks um they kind of identified that as 123 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:41,839 kind of being the best area for that because there's different trails and 124 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:47,760 things that would probably attract developers from their experience. Um 125 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:53,120 so yeah, that was in talking with them their 126 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:57,760 thoughts. Yeah. Any other questions or comments regarding the resoning of 127 00:09:56,160 --> 00:10:04,800 either of those areas? >> Has there been any plans for the area? 128 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:09,680 » Um the city? >> No. Um yeah, we've been talking with the 129 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:15,360 county about purchasing it from them. I haven't heard of any ideas of um any 130 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:20,160 sort of development or anything at this point. Um, and again, it's in the 131 00:10:17,839 --> 00:10:24,800 county's um, control and the hope would be us getting it from them. Um, sounded 132 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:29,760 like there was some concerns with like a underground fuel tank from the school 133 00:10:28,079 --> 00:10:35,040 um, and it was some sort of environmental MPCA type concern, but it 134 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:37,839 sounded like it's not much of a concern anymore because it was gelatinous or 135 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:41,839 something or other. >> Yeah, we don't know that 100% yet. 136 00:10:39,839 --> 00:10:45,600 That's Thursday's meeting. So, we're hoping to to wait on that, too, because 137 00:10:43,519 --> 00:10:48,560 we don't want to get the land and then it becomes this big environmental 138 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:54,800 whatever because of this underground fuel tank that um 139 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:59,519 so yeah, I think us being in close contact with the county is a good thing 140 00:10:56,399 --> 00:11:03,760 right now. So, um but no, thank you for the question. 141 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:09,040 Any other questions or comments for resoning of either of those areas? 142 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:11,040 » Yeah. Heat 143 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:24,200 up 144 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,360 here. 145 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,600 Heat. 146 00:11:49,279 --> 00:11:52,279 Heat. 147 00:11:57,040 --> 00:12:00,040 Heat. 148 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:10,920 Heat. 149 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:20,360 Heat. 150 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:39,240 Heat. 151 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:54,920 Heat. 152 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:58,040 Heat. 153 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:22,519 I guess that's the 154 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:35,880 for something to for them to move into. So that would be my hope. But yeah, I 155 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:35,880 thank you for yeah, bringing that up. 156 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:45,399 Um, and then um I'll ask one last time. Is there any other comments or questions 157 00:13:41,839 --> 00:13:45,399 for that ordinance? 158 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:50,240 Hearing none. Um, we'll move on to adjournment. So, is there a motion for 159 00:13:49,519 --> 00:13:52,399 adjournment? >> Some move. 160 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:53,920 » Motion from councelor Jarla. Is there a second? 161 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:56,880 » A second. >> Second from councelor Grahams. All those 162 00:13:55,360 --> 00:14:00,374 in favor? I. >> Any opposed? 163 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:02,394 » Hearing none. Motion carried. >> [clears throat] 164 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:12,959 » All right. So, we will go back to our regular city council meeting. Um, and 165 00:14:11,839 --> 00:14:18,000 thank you for everybody that had comments and questions. So, uh, moving 166 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:21,920 along, uh, the consent agenda. Has everybody had a chance to read through 167 00:14:19,519 --> 00:14:26,000 that? Any comments or questions for anything in there? 168 00:14:24,399 --> 00:14:29,920 » Hearing none, I'll ask for a motion to approve the consent agenda as presented. 169 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:31,760 » So, move. Motion from councelor Jarpa. Is there a second? 170 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:34,320 » A second. >> Second from councelor Ecman. All those 171 00:14:33,279 --> 00:14:36,800 in favor? >> I. 172 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:41,440 » Any opposed? >> Hearing none. Motion carried. Um, so 173 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:45,760 moving on to the guests and citizens forum. Is there anybody that wishes to 174 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:49,480 say anything? Yep. Good. 175 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:15,360 The device pictured in your image is actually not a bicotta camera, but 176 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:21,040 rather a black security automated license reader camera. While both 177 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:27,760 companies make security and surveillance equipment used by organizations and law 178 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:34,720 enforcement, this specificated black enclosure with the distinct 179 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:40,079 rounded protective top visor is the signature hardware design for block 180 00:15:37,279 --> 00:15:46,800 safety cameras. They are commonly mounted on roadside utility poles to 181 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:52,880 track license plates and vehicle characteristics. 182 00:15:48,880 --> 00:16:00,320 This was the response I got from Google when I sent them a close-up picture of 183 00:15:55,920 --> 00:16:07,040 the camera on that pole. Mind you, that camera is public property in public. So, 184 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:13,040 as long as I'm not doing anything illegal, like trying to scale the pole 185 00:16:10,399 --> 00:16:19,199 or interfere with the camera, I was completely within my rights to inspect 186 00:16:15,839 --> 00:16:23,680 that camera as closely as I could from the ground. 187 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:30,000 » Mhm. Okay. See here. 188 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:35,680 Okay. Moving on. I asked the follow-up question. 189 00:16:31,519 --> 00:16:42,079 What model of flock camera is this? This device is the Flock Safety Falcon 190 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:48,160 automated license plate reader. The Falcon is Flex 191 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:53,600 Flux Safety's flagship infrastructural camera model. It features a distinct 192 00:16:51,920 --> 00:17:00,880 aerodynamic matte black protective enclosure with an 193 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:07,760 integrated upper sunshield overhang. It is widely deployed across public 194 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:13,360 infrastructure and light poles to log vehicle characteristics, 195 00:17:09,839 --> 00:17:19,199 color and license plate information for law enforcement and private and private 196 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:25,360 security systems. Key features: vehicle fingerprint 197 00:17:22,319 --> 00:17:30,720 technology captures details like the vehicle make, model, type, color, 198 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:37,760 license plate, full, partial or missing, and unique identifiers such as bumper 199 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:43,840 stickers or aftermarket modifications. Infrastructure free. operate them. 200 00:17:40,799 --> 00:17:50,080 Builtin batteries charged by an attached solar panel utilizing a cellular LTE 201 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:56,160 connection to transmit data without needing 202 00:17:53,280 --> 00:18:00,559 hardwired power or bulky live video stream. 203 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:06,559 This explains the solar panel and the antennas 204 00:18:03,679 --> 00:18:12,559 that were moved up higher on that pole. And in the case of 205 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:19,280 the solar panel around the back in feeble attempts to hide them. 206 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:25,919 And now councelor Jarbulla since last month you were the one who specifically 207 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:34,160 told me the camera on that pole is a cotta camera. Now I specifically ask you 208 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:38,640 what series of bracotta camera is that that you just boxed that design on that 209 00:18:37,919 --> 00:18:42,720 pole. >> I'll refer you to the chief of police. 210 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:48,240 He's got that information. >> That's a remote series CR63. 211 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:52,160 » And I took a picture off their website. It looks exactly like that one out 212 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:57,360 there. So I printed a few things off cuz I figured us saying things last time 213 00:18:54,640 --> 00:19:02,000 wasn't enough for you. Um, so I printed off our our invoices and they're 214 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:10,559 entitled to the Vicotta system. >> Now I ask the the followup question. 215 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:18,559 Does bracata meet any cameras that use black signature housing design? No. 216 00:19:14,559 --> 00:19:24,720 Ricarda does not make any camera that use this black safety signature 217 00:19:21,679 --> 00:19:28,000 rectangular roadside housing design. there's anybody that wants to look at 218 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:33,600 the picture of it. Printed it off straight from there. 219 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:37,600 » Standard commercial security form factors primarily cylindrical bullet 220 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:41,520 cameras >> such as the CB53 and CB62 221 00:19:40,323 --> 00:19:48,880 [clears throat] series and dome housing 222 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:55,440 which mount to walls, ceilings, poles using traditional mounting brackets. 223 00:19:51,919 --> 00:20:02,720 Lock signature housing is a distinct purpose 224 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:09,120 built wedge shaped square box often paired with an angled solar panel 225 00:20:05,919 --> 00:20:18,000 designed specifically for standalone remote side roadside pole mounting. 226 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:24,480 Now also today I went down and I looked at the known 227 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:28,559 flaw camera on the intersection of 4 and 16. 228 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:35,360 What did I find? A camera that looks exactly like that 229 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:43,200 camera with the only difference being that it's on a smaller pole. 230 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:45,600 So if you continue to maintain that that is a picata camera 231 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:51,440 » Mhm. >> I offer you both the challenge and an 232 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:58,880 opportunity [clears throat] prove it allow a public inspection of the camera 233 00:20:55,440 --> 00:21:04,480 and that does not require anything to be disconnected. All it requires is someone 234 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:10,880 to be down there with the ladder. And you can even require that people sign a 235 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:15,919 liability waiver before climbing up that ladder. And that 236 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:24,400 would be smart because that actually would be in the best interest of that of 237 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:30,159 the city. Now, if you did that and I went up there and I inspect that camera 238 00:21:27,679 --> 00:21:38,240 closely and I don't find what I'm looking for, I will be the first one to 239 00:21:33,919 --> 00:21:43,600 come back here and publicly admit to you that I was wrong. Thank you. 240 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:47,760 » Um, yeah, we'll see what we can do. And then I also printed off our our minutes 241 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:52,159 from the meeting when we talked about that camera. And 242 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:56,400 » in the minutes, I'm I'm just going to finish quick and then you can go. 243 00:21:53,760 --> 00:22:02,000 » Um, and within those minutes, it was a motion and a support to approve Ricotta 244 00:21:59,120 --> 00:22:06,400 security camera proposal, not a um flock. I mean, I printed off a few 245 00:22:04,159 --> 00:22:11,120 things like the invoice, the minutes, a picture of the camera from the Vicotta 246 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:13,280 website. Um, we can see what we can do about that. I don't know if 247 00:22:12,285 --> 00:22:19,679 [clears throat] that's something that the city can facilitate. Um, but I mean 248 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:23,039 it's not a flat camera, but go ahead with what you were saying. 249 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:26,400 » Do you mind if I approach briefly to look at the 250 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:30,200 » Yeah, you can. >> Thank you. 251 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:30,200 » Yeah. 252 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:39,640 And it printed kind of odd. I don't know why, but 253 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:47,679 and that's all I could find just being a a lay person. I'm not a cop or anything, 254 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:52,880 but >> Okay, I must yield that that looks very 255 00:22:51,360 --> 00:22:57,760 similar. I cannot say it looks exact because as 256 00:22:55,679 --> 00:23:04,159 you just said that is not the greatest print out which 257 00:23:00,799 --> 00:23:10,960 happens sometimes. I know and understand that sometimes printers don't cooperate. 258 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:15,039 Did you write down the number of the one that well chief mentioned the number and 259 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:20,159 be on the invoice of what we paid for it? So you can personally go online and 260 00:23:17,679 --> 00:23:25,640 look at the bicotta camera pictures and compare it to the flock camera. 261 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:33,520 It it I mean if you can take that number and look online and compare the photo 262 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:38,080 online for that specific camera to the flock camera, 263 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:40,720 » it might help you. Can you look up that again? 264 00:23:38,559 --> 00:23:46,640 » Yeah. And if you want to visit me during office hours and go on my laptop, we can 265 00:23:43,120 --> 00:23:54,280 look at it to together. So we're not >> CR 63E. 266 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:54,280 Okay, I will 267 00:23:56,559 --> 00:24:02,799 » quick Google search if you want to see them on here too. 268 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:08,880 » I will I will look that up for myself. >> Mhm. And also 269 00:24:05,120 --> 00:24:14,159 I I do ask for a public inspection of that camera. 270 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:19,440 And if it turns out that I am wrong, I am man enough to admit it. 271 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:23,840 » And I will be the first one to come back here and publicly admit that I was 272 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:29,279 wrong. And that would also mean if I'm wrong, I 273 00:24:27,120 --> 00:24:34,960 will remove the signs in my front yard that I'm sure you've all noticed. Thank 274 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:40,080 you. Yep. Um well, and know I'll I'll talk with the um city attorney and law 275 00:24:38,159 --> 00:24:42,960 enforcement about it's facilitating that. I don't want to say yes or no 276 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:45,919 because I just don't know the answer. >> I understand. Okay. 277 00:24:44,159 --> 00:24:47,520 » The liability, right? >> Liability. 278 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:52,480 » All right. Thank you. >> Thank you. Question for Dean. 279 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:57,039 » Is this something we could possibly have public works have somebody go up with a 280 00:24:55,039 --> 00:25:02,640 bucket truck, take a picture of the camera, and provide it to? 281 00:24:59,919 --> 00:25:07,360 I mean, it it's the liability of having giving him a ladder and saying that we 282 00:25:05,279 --> 00:25:11,520 can't we can't take that on. But if we could have public works go with a bucket 283 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:16,320 and go up there and take a picture of that camera and then show it to him, 284 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:24,000 that would probably solve the situation. I would hope. Councelor Jarba, 285 00:25:19,919 --> 00:25:30,720 that is why I mentioned requiring people to sign a liability waiver climbing the 286 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:34,799 » the liability. It wouldn't work. They could still send the city. There's the 287 00:25:33,279 --> 00:25:38,880 liability would be too great on the city's part to have a citizen climb a 288 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:45,600 ladder and go up on a pole. >> Well, I am not an attorney and I have 289 00:25:43,120 --> 00:25:49,039 admittedly no legal knowledge, so I cannot challenge that. But I'll I'll 290 00:25:47,679 --> 00:25:52,400 make sure to follow up with them and if they say, "Yeah, we can do it," then 291 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:54,720 we'd look at some facilitating something. And if we [clears throat] 292 00:25:53,120 --> 00:25:59,200 can't, then I would just let you know. Um, but again, we're not trying to hide 293 00:25:56,799 --> 00:26:02,640 anything, I can understand. Not kind of wanting you want to see it for your your 294 00:26:00,799 --> 00:26:07,039 own eyes. I can understand that. >> Um, so we'll try to facilitate something 295 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:11,360 and if we can't, I'm sorry, but we'll we'll follow up. 296 00:26:08,559 --> 00:26:16,159 » Okay. Thank you for listening. >> Yeah. Thank you. 297 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:20,799 Um, all right. Any other uh guests or citizens citizens that wish to say 298 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:25,200 anything? Hearing nothing, we will move on. Uh 299 00:26:23,039 --> 00:26:27,039 reports from staff. Uh city administrator Wyberg, anything from you 300 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:32,320 tonight? >> Uh nothing from me tonight. 301 00:26:29,039 --> 00:26:39,480 » All right. Uh just about everyone's here for budgeting. So, uh library director 302 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:39,480 Lambie, anything from you tonight? 303 00:26:41,360 --> 00:26:49,200 » All right. Uh September is library card signup month and we encourage everyone 304 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:53,840 in White Lakes to get a card. It's free. There's no age limit and you gain access 305 00:26:51,520 --> 00:27:00,080 to thousands of items you can take home, use, return, and not spend a dime on. 306 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:07,360 Theater Thursday starts again this week at 1:00. We'll be showing solo meal. 307 00:27:04,159 --> 00:27:13,120 This Saturday we are open from 10 to 12 uh 10 to 2 and we'll be open Saturdays 308 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:17,919 now until the end of May. Thursday on September 17th we are 309 00:27:15,919 --> 00:27:24,159 hosting a Medicare Education Conversation sponsored by Northridge 310 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:29,679 Community Credit Union at 11:30. And on September 19th from 10:30 to 1:30 we are 311 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:34,640 celebrating Minnesota Libraries Read Together. Come on down in pajamas or 312 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:38,400 loungewear. Bring a stuffed animal or blanket if you like and read with us. 313 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:44,919 Thank you. >> All right. Thank you. Uh moving on to 314 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,919 public works director Snetzinger. 315 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:53,039 » Yeah, just a couple things. Uh letting everybody know the campground will be 316 00:27:50,000 --> 00:28:00,159 closing Sunday the 20th for normal season camping. Uh offseason camping 317 00:27:55,360 --> 00:28:03,600 will be available uh after that. Um, I haven't spoke to the campground managers 318 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:07,600 yet to see how long they'll be staying on site. You know, they normally stick 319 00:28:05,679 --> 00:28:13,039 around for a couple weeks after the wrap up their work for the season, so there 320 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:18,640 may still be some people down there. Um, at public works, we'll be doing some 321 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:24,240 valve repairs in the streets. Uh, uh, public utilities hired a company called 322 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:29,120 JR Wastewater to go through and, uh, clean and operate all the valves in 323 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:33,440 town. They came across five uh valves that are inoperable right now. 324 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:38,960 So, we want them operating going into winter season. So, there's one that we 325 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:44,320 think we can repair from above ground and four that we're going to have to do. 326 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:47,360 So, just uh in the next week or so, you can see road closer overhead 327 00:28:46,599 --> 00:28:51,919 [clears throat] for that. 328 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:57,919 We'll have some intersections done, but uh we'd like to get it done and in time 329 00:28:54,399 --> 00:29:02,240 to Blackhawk this season. Uh and that being said, we wrapped up a bunch of 330 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:06,640 Blackhawk repairs around town. If you noticed, uh some of the streets that had 331 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:12,799 previous main brakes that have sunk over, you know, many years. Uh we milled 332 00:29:10,559 --> 00:29:17,840 them up and re black off them, trying to get those areas uh smoothed back out. 333 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:24,600 » That's it for tonight. >> All right. Thank you. 334 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:24,600 Uh EMS director Mstead 335 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:30,080 » the computer's going off and we're trying to answer. 336 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:35,039 » Okay. Uh ERPD chief close. Anything you need 337 00:29:33,039 --> 00:29:40,080 tonight? >> Here to address any of the camera 338 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:44,320 questions which again they are through town. They are not licensed play 339 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:49,760 tracking. They don't know who's driving the vehicle. Um, 340 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:54,559 like you said, we're happy to answer any questions about that. 341 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:58,960 Um, >> all right. Sounds good. Thank you for 342 00:29:56,080 --> 00:30:03,600 Yeah. providing that clarification. Um, assistant fire chief ecman, anything 343 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:13,520 from you tonight? >> Fire calls for August. Um, three and two 344 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:20,399 calls, one fire, an iPhone crash, and another one out. Um 345 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:26,720 and to the smoke alarm and gas. 346 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:29,120 » Sounds good. Thank you. Moving along to city attorney Lewiki. Anything for you 347 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:32,799 tonight? >> Uh thanks, Mayor. Nothing tonight. 348 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:36,240 » Sounds good. Thank you. All right, moving on to reports from elected 349 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:39,919 officials. Starting with councelor Grahams. 350 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:45,760 » Uh just an update for the chamber. We're looking at hosting our annual uh haunted 351 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:50,960 trail at the last weekend of October and also doing a um Christmas lighting event 352 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:54,960 where we can kids can make decorations and we can walk over and light up the 353 00:30:53,120 --> 00:31:00,159 Christmas tree. We're collaborating with Michelle at the library. Hoping we can 354 00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:04,960 combine some ideas and events and work together on both of those to kind of 355 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:09,360 draw more attendees and and promote it more. That's all I got. 356 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:11,360 » All right. Very cool. Thank you. Uh, councelor Jarvala, anything from you 357 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:15,760 tonight? >> The planning and zoning meeting for next 358 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:21,039 week is cancelled. They have nothing to discuss. And Jill and I were at the uh, 359 00:31:18,559 --> 00:31:26,720 East Range public safety board meeting tonight. The two big issues were the 360 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:30,159 memor memorandum of understanding on the school resource officer. It's going to 361 00:31:28,799 --> 00:31:34,880 be down to like an hour and a half a day. So, they will be still paying the 362 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:41,519 department for that. And they are also promoting for a uh in-house position for 363 00:31:38,559 --> 00:31:44,480 another sergeant to replace Cody. It's all I've got. 364 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:49,919 » All right. Thanks for the update. Uh councelor Matthysse, Councelor Ecman, 365 00:31:47,919 --> 00:31:53,600 don't want to forget her. I'll be in trouble. 366 00:31:50,559 --> 00:31:57,039 » Thanks. Um the community garden is looking pretty sad right [clears throat] 367 00:31:54,640 --> 00:32:01,919 now. Um I think there's a couple spots open, so if anybody wants a spot, reach 368 00:31:59,039 --> 00:32:07,600 out to Dale White House. Um, we're looking at doing a couple craft fairs 369 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:11,279 this fall at the probably the arena. So, if anybody wants to be a vendor, reach 370 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:14,880 out. And that's about it. >> All right. Sounds good. Thank you. Uh, 371 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:18,480 councelor Matson, anything from you? >> Nothing for me tonight. 372 00:32:16,159 --> 00:32:22,000 » Sounds good. Uh, on my end, I had attended the Msabi East Youth Hockey 373 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:25,760 Board meeting a couple weekends ago or so. Um, they have a projected kind of 374 00:32:24,159 --> 00:32:29,760 lower number of volunteers this year, so they won't be running the hockey hut or 375 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:33,440 the concession stand this year. Um, so it's kind of looking like the city will 376 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:37,120 have to operate it this year. Um, but just kind of moving forward kind of with 377 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:41,200 budgeting. Um, the council will just have to kind of discuss that more and 378 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:44,399 talk about ideas. Um, if Bucky was here, he would speak more to it and I've had 379 00:32:43,039 --> 00:32:49,919 conversations with him already and so has Dean. So, um, there's that. Um, and 380 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:54,240 then I was also informed that the 30-day public comment period uh, opened up for 381 00:32:52,399 --> 00:32:58,799 one of uh, New Range Copper Nickels permits. So, I'm working on a comment of 382 00:32:56,640 --> 00:33:03,360 support for that. Um and I'll be submitting that to the Army Corps of 383 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:09,440 Engineers um before Saturday which is um when the all the public comments are 384 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:14,240 due. So that's it for me on my end. Um so moving ahead uh nothing for old 385 00:33:12,399 --> 00:33:20,559 business. We'll move right into new business. Uh 10.1 resolution 202619 386 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:26,360 authorizing the city of White Lakes to make application to and accept funds 387 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,360 from R26067168 388 00:33:26,559 --> 00:33:32,838 special projects uh TEFP. Um do you mind speaking to this Dean? 389 00:33:31,519 --> 00:33:34,880 » Yeah, sorry about that. I didn't [clears throat] put much detail in 390 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:39,919 there, but that's for the Ranger Snow Build Club. Um we're the fiscal agent or 391 00:33:37,919 --> 00:33:44,880 I'm the fiscal agent on it and we're that is to put more funding to the CCC 392 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:52,000 camp. beach house or whatever. Um, so that's 393 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:59,039 what that one's for. >> Um, so yeah, we usually do resolutions 394 00:33:55,360 --> 00:34:03,840 uh to um yeah, accept funds or uh complete applications for the triple R. 395 00:34:01,519 --> 00:34:07,919 Um, so this looks similar to kind of ones we've [clears throat] done in the 396 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:13,839 past. Um, yeah, it'll be nice when they have all the um trail head and all the 397 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:17,679 proposed um trail work that they're talking about doing and work out there. 398 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:22,000 So, that'll be cool. Um, any other comments or questions for that 399 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:25,839 resolution? >> Hearing none, I'll ask for a motion to 400 00:34:24,240 --> 00:34:28,320 um approve that resolution. >> So, move. 401 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,359 » Motion from councelor Jarva. Is there a second? 402 00:34:28,720 --> 00:34:31,520 » I'll second. >> Second from councelor Ecman. [laughter] 403 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:34,480 All those in favor? >> I. 404 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:39,280 » Any opposed? Hearing none. Motion carried. Moving on to 10.2, resolution 405 00:34:37,599 --> 00:34:46,240 202618, appointing election judges for the 2026 406 00:34:42,159 --> 00:34:52,879 general election. Um again, uh we do this every election cycle. Um kind of 407 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:59,119 approving these resolutions to uh appoint folks to be um election judges. 408 00:34:56,639 --> 00:35:02,480 Um and looking through the names, a lot of the the same people who have done it 409 00:35:00,720 --> 00:35:07,359 in previous years. So, thank you to all of them for 410 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:09,599 sticking with it. Um, anything to add, Dean? 411 00:35:07,839 --> 00:35:12,880 » Uh, no. You already approved this once, but we had to add some more people on 412 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:17,920 here for election judges because we have to staff it with two people all during 413 00:35:16,079 --> 00:35:21,760 all hours. Two election judges, I should say. 414 00:35:18,720 --> 00:35:25,440 » Um, yeah, we had to add some >> so more the primary, 415 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:30,320 » Sherry, me, Michelle. >> Oh, okay. 416 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:34,240 » Um, I think that's the three additions. So same list as the primary but now just 417 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:38,720 adding those three is >> yeah just just to cover the office. 418 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:44,480 » So we have to have election two election judges on in the office at all times 419 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:49,359 during the election season which we didn't before. 420 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:55,520 » Sounds good. Um any other comments or questions from anybody 421 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:58,400 hearing none I will ask for a motion to approve that resolution. 422 00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,400 » I'll make that motion. Motion from councelor Grahams. Is there a second? 423 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:03,119 » I'll second. >> Second from councelor Ecman. All those 424 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:08,480 in favor? >> I. Any opposed? Hearing none. Motion 425 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:15,200 carried. Uh and then moving into 10.3. Um so this is has to do um with the 426 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:20,000 public hearing. Um so this is 10.3 ordinance 249 amending the official 427 00:36:17,599 --> 00:36:26,560 zoning map of the city to reclassify certain parcels to R5 and R six uh 428 00:36:23,119 --> 00:36:32,160 residential districts. Um, I kind of spoke at length during the public 429 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:35,599 hearing piece of it. Um, so I I don't have much to add or anything to add. 430 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:41,760 » No. No. >> Anybody on the council have anything to 431 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:46,119 add or any questions for for that ordinance change or reszoning? 432 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:54,000 Um yeah, we've had extensive discussions either here or at um planning and zoning 433 00:36:52,160 --> 00:37:02,520 meetings kind of about this whole process. Um so we'll have um we won't 434 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,520 have another public 435 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,880 for a second. 436 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,320 second. 437 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:51,520 We We'll have to do it after the meeting. 438 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:55,480 Yes. And citizens kind of end. Yeah. We I don't want to 439 00:37:59,599 --> 00:38:03,079 meeting if you want. 440 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:12,760 And then is there a second? Second 441 00:38:15,839 --> 00:38:20,119 » or did you already 442 00:38:20,240 --> 00:38:25,920 I didn't want you get on the books. I did not want Sherry 443 00:38:24,240 --> 00:38:30,680 to steal Brent's thunder. We'll give it to Brent. Second Madison. 444 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,400 Thanks.