[0:00] Uh, good evening everyone, and welcome to the village of hastings on hudson, new york. Uh,
[0:04] this is no longer an official board of trustees special meeting 'cause we don't
[0:08] have a quorum, uh, but the village manager, and I believe
[0:12] that it's more important to continue this just as a community meeting instead of delaying this and putting it
[0:16] off another month and running into scheduling issues with our, our, uh,
[0:20] partners at lang. Uh, so we're going to continue with this this evening.
[0:25] um, I'd like to thank recreation chair. Um,
[0:29] she's been neglecting her grandchildren tonight by being here today. Uh, joanne bater,
[0:33] devo, and angela reese, you're here in the back. Thank you for being here for the recognition.
[0:38] um, and everyone else. So you wanna introduce?
[0:42] sure. Yeah. Uh, good evening everybody, and, uh, thank
[0:46] you very much, um, lang for, uh, being here to share this presentation
[0:51] with our, uh, group. And the presentation is being filmed, so we
[0:55] will be able to show it on our, our tv station and for anybody
[0:59] that's not, not here tonight. Um, you may recall a couple
[1:03] of years ago, the village had a kind of a preliminary, uh,
[1:08] opportunity to assess mcc kran park, what needs to be done to
[1:12] stabilize the park, most importantly, and what we can do to,
[1:16] uh, just, you know, improve, improve the park for the enjoyment of all the residents
[1:20] that live in the area. And so, um, we were, we had
[1:25] gotten, uh, we had done some, we had done some preliminary plans
[1:29] through that process, and then we applied for another grant
[1:34] and we received a, um, half a million dollar grant, which we were able,
[1:39] uh, we were, we were looking at how to kind of, um,
[1:43] spend that money and then, um, we were fortunate
[1:47] in some negotiations with arco to be able to
[1:52] get a $3 million contribution from, uh, bpr
[1:56] co for, uh, the restoration of nick krin park.
[2:01] so we very, uh, stood, the board, worked very, uh, diligently
[2:05] to find a, um, consultant that we thought would be
[2:09] best for the project. We interviewed, I believe, uh, six or seven,
[2:14] uh, different firms, and we had, uh, proposals
[2:18] from I believe 11. And, uh, we chose lagan, uh,
[2:22] as the best, uh, selection. And we've been working with them now for the
[2:27] past couple of months to kind of massage what
[2:31] had been done before and, uh, see and come up with a plan
[2:35] for, uh, the project which is designed to both stabilize
[2:39] the park and kind of, uh, have, make it be more
[2:43] resilient to the action of the river and also
[2:48] the action of storms and things like that. So, um, without further
[2:52] ado, I would like to just introduce, uh, meredith, juliana and
[2:56] jean, uh, rege, excuse me if I messed
[3:00] your name up terribly. And also with them are, are victor cizik
[3:04] and keith warner. And, uh, they'll, after we're gonna have a presentation,
[3:10] then there'll be an opportunity for questions from anybody who wants to ask any questions.
[3:14] and then, uh, there's some, there's some, uh, uh, photos
[3:18] and, and things in the back, and there's an, there'll be an opportunity for some,
[3:23] uh, direct one-on-one conversation with our consultants and
[3:27] anybody else who's here. So, uh, thank you so much and, uh, please. Uh,
[3:31] yeah, perfect. Thank you. That was great. Um, covered
[3:35] it all our agenda and history and everything. So that was,
[3:39] that was perfect. Um, okay, so,
[3:43] um, to start out with, uh, first of all, meredith mentioned, my name's
[3:47] meredith. I'm a project landscape architect. Um, just a little background on
[3:51] our firm in general to start with. Um, lang is
[3:55] a large multidisciplinary engineering and design firm. So,
[4:00] uh, we cover a lot of different services here, but the ones that
[4:04] are involved in this project, um, we actually have six disciplines all working
[4:08] together, um, on this project. So we have geotech
[4:12] site, civil survey, uh, our waterfront and
[4:16] natural resources folks who also assist us with permitting because
[4:20] they really have that covered. Um, and then landscape architecture also. So,
[4:25] um, we actually are about 50 different offices, but, uh, our team,
[4:29] all six of these services are all based out of white plains in new york city.
[4:33] so we're really local folks. , um, a lot of westchester
[4:38] experience. Um, so there are others that are
[4:42] on our team that are not here today, but will be the face of the project for
[4:47] tonight's uh, purposes. So we have, um, a few folks
[4:51] that weren't able to make it. Um, kristen unfortunately was, is our kind
[4:55] of head project manager and unfortunately couldn't make it tonight, but
[4:59] get me instead on the landscape architecture side. Victor's also
[5:03] a landscape architect. Keith is on our site civil side and jean is on our waterfront,
[5:07] um, and repping geotech for us also.
[5:12] um, so,
[5:16] um, to start with, I think, um,
[5:21] you know, as we were pursuing the project, like marybeth was certain route, we were kind of interviewing
[5:26] and going through the process and every single person on our team had
[5:30] some kind of personal connection to the town of sings. Whether that
[5:34] was, um, you know, they had come down here and they'd gone to harvest on
[5:38] hudson for like a celebration lunch or they went to a wedding
[5:43] or had some other kind of, you know, memory that was here in this town.
[5:47] so, um, we were really excited to kind of get this opportunity
[5:51] to work on the project and then we got to know a little bit more
[5:55] even, you know, about the, the town and the village and everything. And,
[6:00] um, just really became kind of enamored with the community
[6:04] and the family friendly atmosphere and um, this kind of dedication
[6:09] to like arts and the environment and the access to the water that we have in
[6:13] as part of mc kron. And that's really been
[6:17] kind of a guiding light for us as . We worked through the project. So,
[6:21] um, then we got to know a little bit more about ekron itself and um,
[6:26] had, you know, how could you not, uh, fall in love with just
[6:30] the views that are around. Um, so we really kind of break
[6:34] down our site opportunities and constraints that start to guide, um, our
[6:38] design decisions. And of course the memorable views
[6:43] up and down the water out to the manhattan skyline and the palisades.
[6:47] um, and even up to the bridge and everything are part of the opportunities that you
[6:51] see right off the bat. Uh, but even going a little deeper than
[6:55] that, you know, realizing that this is really a community space, um, plenty
[7:00] of opportunities for lots of amenities and activities. And we
[7:04] got this great understanding of all of the different things that happened there. And then
[7:08] also, as mary beth was mentioning, started to learn about a little
[7:12] bit more of the constraints as we walked around. Um, do you wanna
[7:16] touch on this for our lives? ? So I just, um, it's a beautiful park.
[7:20] you speak into the microphone, you need to speak into the microphone. Okay. Sorry.
[7:24] that one closer . So it is, it's a beautiful park, beautiful views.
[7:28] um, but the park itself is deteriorating,
[7:33] um, mostly because of high winds. It's right on the river.
[7:37] we're gonna get high tides there. We're gonna have, you know, wave action.
[7:41] there's erosion that you can see in some of these pictures. You can see the erosion happening at the
[7:45] surface flooding. So these are all things that we wanted to consider
[7:50] when we were going to be reconstructing this park to be something
[7:54] that everyone wants to go to and use. But as you can see in these
[7:58] pictures, there will be times that, or there were times that it wasn't usable.
[8:02] so this was some of our restraints with the highways tidal area
[8:07] on the water, um, and making sure that this can be more resilient
[8:11] and sustainable. Um, and you'll
[8:15] see that those concerns for the shoreline and the erosion
[8:19] are really, um, would drive a lot of our decisions throughout this
[8:23] whole process also. Um,
[8:27] so to start with just a little bit of kind of project history, landon's
[8:32] project history on the project, um, we always start out every project with what
[8:36] we call the due diligence phase. Uh, this is basically the phase of
[8:40] work that mary beth was alluding to that we've been working through the last couple of months
[8:44] where we learn all of the sort of technical
[8:50] info that we need to about the project. Um, so, so far we've
[8:54] completed our survey including a full boundary and topographic survey,
[8:58] so that's fully updated, um, now and then also
[9:02] a bathometric survey. So that's a survey of the water, what happens
[9:06] below the water so that we can understand things like the mean high water and
[9:10] how the shoreline restoration is going to work. Um, we've also
[9:15] completed a wetland investigation where we actually found that there are not
[9:19] flagged wetlands, um, which helps our permitting makes it a little bit easier
[9:23] for us. Um, and then on the geotech side, we are
[9:27] actually working now on, um, completing some borings.
[9:31] so land borings. Yep. Yeah, , the land borings are in progress.
[9:35] um, and that will give us a lot of information about the soil and characteristics of the soil.
[9:40] um, and then we'll also be doing two borings in the water to understand
[9:45] what's happening below the surface of the water. Um,
[9:49] also throughout the project we've been working really closely, um, as
[9:54] mary beth said, with our meetings with the village, but also with coordinating
[9:58] with our adjacent owners. So we've done a design review with
[10:02] arco, um, for the anaconda buyer site
[10:07] that's next door across from kinley so that we understand
[10:11] what their future plans are for that project. They understand our plans
[10:15] and we're not, uh, proposing anything that's gonna be incorrect and also
[10:22] not clear after
[10:28] we work what we're working. And also
[10:33] that minor male locality know, you know, what's computer and our
[10:39] process re our soil. So we make sure that we can make,
[10:46] um, have our schedule at this point. And
[10:51] you can see where we are is highlighted in yellow there, where it, um,
[10:55] public presentation, you're all here. That's what we're doing tonight. Um,
[10:59] so the, this is nicely timed for us in our schedule
[11:03] so that we can incorporate feedback, um, from all of you that
[11:07] actually live here and interact with the space on a regular basis. And then
[11:11] we will take all of that feedback and continue to rev refine.
[11:15] uh, what I'll be showing you is the recommended, uh, site
[11:20] plan. Um, we'll continue to refine that,
[11:24] incorporate everybody's feedback as we get more and more kind of info from the
[11:28] public. And then we'll be starting to work through the permitting
[11:32] process as well. So you can see that sort of in the middle of the screen there. And then,
[11:36] uh, refining the cost estimate as well so that we can look towards
[11:41] a fall 2026 bidding construction
[11:45] phase for the project. Um,
[11:51] okay, so, sure, sure. Okay. So
[11:55] this was the original concept design, uh, has some,
[12:00] uh, great features to it, but we wanted to make sure that what we were putting in was
[12:05] permittable and also sustainable and being resilient. So
[12:10] first, just looking at the concept design, there's a bulkhead that goes around the entire
[12:14] site. This creates a hard surface at the edge. It will help with not adding
[12:18] fill into the water, but because of the hard surface it could cause scour on the
[12:22] outside of it and you could have future issues. It's also not,
[12:26] um, environmentally conscious. It's
[12:31] not helping when we're trying to, you know, create a, an area that
[12:35] we wanna have birds or an area that we wanna have fish come in.
[12:39] it's just not typically something that, um, a lot of the permitting
[12:43] agencies would like us to put in as that hardscape. Um, another
[12:48] aspect of this is all of the amenities that are being put in
[12:52] the hardscape upland. Uh, these are features that the agencies typically
[12:56] tr try to shy away from. So close to the water. We wanna keep our impervious
[13:00] cover to a limited amount, which we'll talk about in a little bit, but that's something that
[13:05] we notice right off the bat that there is a lot of hardscape upland and we wanna make sure we
[13:09] wanna limit that impervious cover. And then the last one that I just
[13:13] want to know is the pier or dock with the floating dock
[13:17] for boat access. Um, it is considered fill
[13:21] in the water, which is not permitable. Um, it also creates cover over
[13:25] the water, not river. Also
[13:31] for the roof. So safety.
[13:36] so we started from the site as we,
[13:40] so we, our in area,
[13:45] um, and where, you know, best use possibly,
[13:49] um, highlight, wanna share beginning
[13:53] of those views. We still have up to them. And also just, you
[13:57] know, this really beautiful view where people have gotten married there and we don't
[14:01] wanna, uh, make a major impact on those memories either. So,
[14:05] um, there's to consider with those views. And then,
[14:10] uh, kind of layering in the circulation
[14:14] around the space so you can see the same views are high or the same points
[14:18] of interest are highlighted. And then the circulation patterns that we notice throughout
[14:22] the space starts to inform what we would suggest
[14:27] for design recommendations for how to actually use the space. Um,
[14:31] and then these blue arrows that you see are the sort
[14:35] of initial thoughts of grading and drainage throughout the site. So we
[14:39] recognized that the previous concept design raised to the grade
[14:43] in the site and that is something we will also be
[14:48] recommending. Um, so gina will talk more, a little, little bit more about it when we get into the
[14:52] shoreline and talking about that. But, um,
[14:56] understanding the way the drainage comes off the parking lot also helps
[15:00] us to understand how we need to handle the water off of the parking lot as well.
[15:05] um, and then again, going back to, you know, we
[15:09] understand that this is a space, um, with these sort of different
[15:13] zones throughout and also significant activities that
[15:17] happen. It's a really amazing community
[15:21] space that already exist and we don't want to make any recommendations
[15:26] that would alter that in any way. We want you to be able to kind
[15:30] of still host concert series and maintain all of the things
[15:34] that, that the village is able to do there. Uh, now,
[15:39] so, um, just to pause
[15:44] for a second, 'cause we've said a lot of things. We've taken all of that information
[15:48] that we've gathered so far, the technical side of it, the understanding
[15:53] of the space itself and have worked together to develop
[15:58] these four overall project goals. Um,
[16:02] but,
[16:11] and then, you know, standing there, so new conscience
[16:15] and being able to have that direct connection to the water is a high
[16:20] priority. Um, and then again, I think I literally just said this on the
[16:24] last slide, but being able to maintain and enhance those community amenities
[16:28] that we saw on the last slide. You know, creating better spaces for
[16:32] the concert venues and opportunities, you know, even more opportunities
[16:37] for weddings or picnics or even just, you know, headed down
[16:41] there for, uh, lunch on your lunch break. Um, and then
[16:45] really encouraging community wellness through accessible pathways
[16:49] and a variety of seating. Um, we don't want this to feel like
[16:53] a park, we want it to feel like a park that anybody can come to and be
[16:57] able to get around, um, and have the same experience as anybody else. So
[17:02] in thinking about those amenities, um,
[17:08] those are our overall goals in thinking about those amenities. They've
[17:12] sort of evolved over the course of the project. Um, so the
[17:16] existing ones out there today are obviously the playgrounds, the bench
[17:20] locations along the river, that open flexible lawn and a sort
[17:25] of temporary stage comes and goes as we need it for the concert series.
[17:29] and then in the schematic design phase, those
[17:34] same key four amenities were still proposed
[17:38] along with the addition of walking paths and overlooks the
[17:42] kayak storage, the wooden dock and the bulkhead.
[17:47] now as we head into the next phase that we call the dd phase design
[17:51] development, so this is where we're evolving the design a little bit more.
[17:55] um, those same four elements are still,
[18:00] are top of our list here. And then we are still continuing
[18:04] to propose walking paths, overlooks kayak storage,
[18:09] and we've made a slight tweak that I'll walk you through for the
[18:13] dock and the bulkhead as we are starting to say. Um,
[18:18] what we're proposing instead is a get down, um, it's a technical
[18:22] term for it. It literally gets you down to the river, um,
[18:27] for kayak access. So that would be essentially concrete ramp. It's a da
[18:31] accessible, so there's increasing the access to the water
[18:36] so that you actually can get, you know, um, a wheelchair or
[18:40] a walker or anything like that. If you have any kind of, um,
[18:44] of those tools. , you can still access the water just the way that
[18:48] anybody else can and you have a little bit more of a direct connection. Also
[18:53] a safer connection, um, as gina was alluding to, this location
[18:57] puts you in a little bit more into the cove into the safer space. Um, and
[19:01] then a stabilized shoreline created with rip wrap and
[19:05] increasing the grade is, uh, a little bit
[19:10] of a softer approach than the bulkhead. In addition, we've
[19:14] talked about a few other opportunities that we noted throughout the site. Um,
[19:18] you know, the potential for adding grilling areas or a
[19:22] pavilion, um, even adding, incorporating in some
[19:27] rotating art in the form of sculptures or, um,
[19:32] I dunno, , uh, and then educational signage and also site
[19:37] lighting was a major thing you noted when we were there. That doesn't exist today, but
[19:41] we thought worthwhile to, um, get
[19:45] feedback on. Um, so going through the site plan,
[19:51] this is our recommended site plan. So, um,
[19:55] this is sort of the point we're at now and why we're having this presentation
[19:59] is to inform you guys of all of these conversations we've had and thoughts we've
[20:03] had, and then take everybody's feedback like I was saying, from folks
[20:07] who actually use the space, um, and being able to incorporate it into
[20:11] it. So there's a few tweaks, um, to this site
[20:16] plan compared to the last one. Like we were starting to say. Number one that's labeled
[20:21] actually, if you can see the cursor here all along the shoreline here
[20:25] would be a stabilized restored shoreline. Um,
[20:30] that would also increase the grade of the site. I can get
[20:34] into a little bit more in the next slide. Um, and
[20:38] then the get down that I was mentioning for kayak access is over
[20:42] in the corner over here, kind of connected to the parking area, so there's easy access
[20:46] in and out from the parking. Um, there are walking paths
[20:50] that continue all the way throughout the site in a continuous loop.
[20:54] and that's really headed towards that goal of increasing community
[20:59] wellness that we kind of did a little calculation and found that
[21:03] six to seven laps on that loop lapse on that loop
[21:07] would be about a mile. So that's the kind of thing where you can go out and walk
[21:11] around the circle a couple times at lunch and get your steps set
[21:15] . Um, and then again, number five here in the middle of preserving
[21:19] that open lawn has been a high priority to us this whole time. So we
[21:23] want fit these amenities in while we actually also
[21:28] preserve that open space, um, and use it for events. Number
[21:32] six here is, um, an
[21:36] opportunity for a performance pavilion. Um, so there's
[21:41] a lot of different ways that you can take that. It can be a permanent structure,
[21:45] shade structure, it can be a temporary shade, uh, a temporary stage
[21:49] structure similar to what we use today. Um,
[21:53] number seven is actually you'll see a slight relocation to
[21:58] the playground. So we proposed a new playground. Um, the one that's
[22:02] out there today, sort of getting to the end of its life. I think it's about 20
[22:08] ish years old, maybe more . Um,
[22:12] and so we're proposing a new playground, um, and
[22:16] in a slightly different location where it gets you a little bit closer to
[22:20] what we're calling like this seating within trees. So picnic
[22:24] tables in this shady cove. Um,
[22:29] and there's a little bit more of a direct connection there between that seating area and
[22:33] the playground. And then, um, sorry, a skip right over
[22:37] overlooks. Those are the four number four marked out in this kind of pinkish
[22:42] color, but those are really those key locations where you get the best views.
[22:46] so creating some seeding in those spaces. Um, and then
[22:51] really all throughout the space we would be incorporating that native vegetation
[22:55] as well. So all along the the rip rap shoreline, we'd
[22:59] be incorporating a natural looking, you know, grasses and I have some photos
[23:04] that I'll show you in just one second of that. And then also to handle some
[23:08] of that rainwater that was coming off of the parking lot, we're proposing a rain garden
[23:13] right at the edge of the parking lot also.
[23:18] um, so a few character images, uh, for
[23:22] us to help to kind of start to envision what these spaces might look like.
[23:27] um, in terms of the playgrounds, there is
[23:31] a lot of opportunities now to incorporate natural, more natural playgrounds.
[23:35] some with fun features, they look like animals, it's great. Um,
[23:40] they're, uh, a little more connected materials to that natural
[23:44] environment rather than metal and steel and
[23:49] all that plastic. Um, and then for the sort of meandering
[23:53] pathway you can see in this metal picture that would be surrounded by made of grasses
[23:57] and, and new tree planting on either side as well as opportunities
[24:02] for that concert space or that open lawn to flex into
[24:06] the concert space. Um, and you can see some kind of ideas that we're
[24:10] headed towards for the seating under trees. So really wanting to create that
[24:15] shady spot that you can sit at a picnic table and enjoy in the middle of
[24:19] summer. I know we're not there yet, but we will be soon. All very warm
[24:24] . Um, do you wanna cover this grading
[24:29] ? So this is a little bit more on the technical side. Um, so first
[24:33] off, for the shoreline, we're trying to create a stable shoreline. We don't wanna
[24:37] see the erosion that you've been seeing. We wanna make sure that it's protected
[24:41] for the future for sea level rise. So that was one of the reasons why we
[24:46] consider raising grades in this area. We wanna make sure that the park is still
[24:50] there for your children to be able to, you know, visit it or, or
[24:54] at least in 20 years, if not underwater. So raising grades was a, you know,
[24:59] a one of the big components that we wanted to take away from the original, um,
[25:03] concepts. And then knowing how we were
[25:07] seeing all of this erosion, we wanted to stabilize the top of our slope. The
[25:11] large stones that are out there seem pretty stable. It's a rather shallow slope, which is wonderful
[25:15] because that means that we can supplement to that slope and then also
[25:20] help raise grades. It'll go a, a little sleep steeper slope at the top
[25:24] to get us closer so we don't lose so much of the park. Um, but, and then also
[25:28] try and keep our stones above mean high water so we're not adding fill into the water
[25:32] as well. Um, so we have our raised grades, we have our,
[25:37] um, our sustainable, uh,
[25:41] waterfront structure, um, and then we also have our
[25:45] permitting agencies that we have to be mindful of and what they will allow us to do on site.
[25:50] so some of the things that they'll bring into play is what I talked about earlier, impervious
[25:54] first pervious cover. So impervious, we wanna stay away from anything
[25:59] like, uh, concrete or anything that's not gonna allow water to
[26:03] infiltrate into the ground. So we've considered pervious pavers for the site,
[26:07] which will allow us to have water infiltrated to the ground. You'll see less ponding
[26:11] in areas, which will be great. Then you can use this site right after
[26:16] a big rainstorm. Um, we've also considered that there's been a lot of
[26:20] flooding on this site, so there's going to be, um, proper drainage.
[26:24] we have slopes for the drainage, we're considering all of that as well. Um,
[26:29] and then also for, uh, the
[26:33] impervious versus pervious material we have considered. There
[26:38] will be that get down, but we'll make sure that on the sides it's stone
[26:42] that's also gonna be considered for part of the retaining structures. So this way
[26:46] we can still retain soil up land while letting this park
[26:51] flood and then be able to recover quickly.
[27:00] okay, so, um,
[27:05] a few realistic, uh, constraints that
[27:09] we have to the, the grading, the increase of the grading. So there are
[27:14] existing trees that you can see through the middle of the park. Um,
[27:18] these are, you know, they're listed out here what, what they've been identified
[27:22] as in color, um, as well. And, uh,
[27:27] if you are down in the park, you might notice that there
[27:31] are a lot of roots exposed for a lot of these trees. And,
[27:36] um, they're definitely very large. They provide a lot of shade. We love that.
[27:40] unfortunate that anytime we fill in
[27:45] spaces, so we raise the grade a little bit, um, anytime
[27:49] we add up even just a couple inches of grade of soil on top
[27:53] of a tree root, eventually those trees will be choked out.
[27:57] um, we don't want to have that happen here, like we've said. And longevity of this park
[28:01] is key for us. So we are already
[28:06] proposing and thinking ahead to replace those trees.
[28:10] also, just to be clear, all the trees along the parking would remain,
[28:14] so you still have that divide between the parking area and the park. This only applies
[28:18] to the trees that are within the lawn area. Um,
[28:23] sorry. So thinking ahead to
[28:27] what kind of proposed trees and and vegetation we would want to
[28:31] get into this space. Um, these are a couple examples
[28:36] of some really great trees that thrive in wet, salty
[28:40] conditions and, uh, kind of
[28:44] bonuses. They exist all along the hudson river, so we know that they do
[28:48] really well in in parks along the hudson. They also are
[28:53] all fast growing and have great structure to provide trees
[28:57] for us. So in the cost estimate as we had
[29:01] in the direction of, uh, creating realistic proposal here,
[29:06] we've already incorporated, um, the installation of
[29:10] larger scale trees to replace trees that will need to come out
[29:14] in order to make this design actually work altogether.
[29:19] um, so these would be installed even up to like 18 to 20 feet
[29:23] on the first day. Um, so they've already started off at that
[29:27] nice large scale, so you still get to sit underneath their day
[29:32] one right when the park opens, um, and be able to have a little picnic in the
[29:36] shade. And then we improve the longevity and the
[29:40] lifespan of all of the vegetation by kind making that
[29:45] replacement for these native trees. Um, in addition, as you
[29:49] can see in the pictures on the side, you get a little bit more of that idea
[29:53] of incorporating those native plants into the shoreline.
[29:57] so they're not really, you know, they're not two separate things, right?
[30:01] we don't have a bunch of stone as the shore and then a separate area where
[30:05] there's planting. It's really a natural setting, um,
[30:09] you know, along the path here. And then there's a great opportunity
[30:14] that we love, maybe I love the most as a landscape architect,
[30:18] but this opportunity to be able to educate the public on,
[30:22] you know, native trees and native plants and pollinators,
[30:26] um, education signage while you're meandering through the park. I
[30:30] think . Um,
[30:35] and then there's a few other opportunities in, um,
[30:40] this project for general kind of improvements. So
[30:44] the existing state furnishings, uh, we noted while we were out there, you know, some
[30:48] of them are, uh, getting eroded and floating away
[30:52] a little bit with, with some of the shoreline issues. And there's a little
[30:57] bit of mismatch. So there's a great opportunity here
[31:01] to provide for updated site furnishings and
[31:05] even introduce a little pop of color into the space. These are,
[31:09] um, a sort of family. They go together, they match really nicely. You
[31:13] can select between chairs or picnic tables or just benches
[31:18] and, um, they've been well known to hold up really well in that
[31:22] salty, harsh condition along the water.
[31:29] so, um, getting a little bit more into some
[31:33] of the details. We have started
[31:37] with a preliminary cost assessment for the project. Um,
[31:41] uh, at the this point, this, like I said, preliminary,
[31:46] it includes escalation of costs over time because
[31:51] we are talking about this now and construction will actually be in the future. It
[31:55] also includes a little bit of wiggle room for any potential
[31:59] changes to the design that we might make. Um, so
[32:04] there's a little bit of flexibility in here, but the key thing that
[32:08] we wanted to see with the cost assessment at this point in our design process is that
[32:13] we have the sort shoreline stabilization covered and
[32:17] access to the river as well as the elevating the grade of the park in
[32:21] order, um, to create that stabilized shoreline
[32:25] that's all covered. Um, it comes to about 1.2,
[32:29] uh, million dollars and as mary beth was saying, our current funding
[32:33] is at 3.5. There's a few additional items in here too
[32:38] that we're working through with the village, um, that there's
[32:42] potential opportunities to either phase those in the future or
[32:46] to find other means of funding for them. Something
[32:51] like a new playground, there's other opportunities for. So,
[32:56] um, okay, so I think this is a really important
[33:01] point. Um, I'm glad you guys are all here. This
[33:05] is the point in the design now that we've sort of introduced you to it, where
[33:10] your feedback from the community is really valuable to us. Um,
[33:14] that's the stuff, you know, that we really rely on everyday people
[33:19] who actually use the space every day. Um, and
[33:24] we really appreciate that communication. So, um, I'm gonna encourage
[33:28] you all to come talk to one of us and the,
[33:32] any, any of us here , um, and
[33:36] let us know your thoughts. Uh, there are also other opportunities
[33:41] for feedback too. So, you know, if your friends and family couldn't make it here tonight
[33:45] and you wanna spread the word, um, there is
[33:49] a page on the town website where you can go on there and you can
[33:53] press this, leave a comment way at the bottom and
[33:57] write in your thoughts and it'll get to our folks
[34:01] over here at the village and then they will share it with us. Also, the boards
[34:06] that you see in the back are going to be posted in the library. Um,
[34:10] so there'll be opportunities there to be able to still add comments to them and
[34:15] we'll pick them back up. Um, and I believe this will be a
[34:19] topic at future planning board meetings too. You can correct me if I'm
[34:23] wrong on that, . Um, and um,
[34:27] yeah, so I'm going to pause on our site plan here
[34:31] and open the floor if there's any questions that you wanna ask out loud in
[34:36] the open forum here, you can come up to the microphone.
[34:41] I, I just have, we may have to drive off, have one question, uh, before we go, um,
[34:45] to open the microphone. Sure. One of the areas that you had cited earlier
[34:49] was also kayak storage. Where would you foresee that on this map?
[34:53] yeah. Um, so one of the places we were looking at opportunities for storage
[34:58] would actually be kind of in the area, um, as you come in so
[35:02] that there's some space there, um, to be
[35:06] able to potentially fit some storage. Um, otherwise would have
[35:10] to continue working through some spots for it where it's easy access down to
[35:14] the get down. Yeah, I mean, they've already made
[35:18] themselves available for us mingling as well, but if anybody wants to
[35:22] ask a question, it's for the benefit of everyone in the room if we all hear the question and the answer.
[35:26] so that would be great. Thank you. Adam . Thanks. Thanks adam.
[35:31] my name's adam hart. I, I live here in hastings for many years and
[35:35] first of all, this is one of the most exciting things that could be happening
[35:39] to our new, um, I have a couple questions. Okay.
[35:43] uh, I, I'm involved in with, uh, putting musical,
[35:48] uh, festivals and things together. And so I think about those kind of
[35:52] logistics and a couple of things that popped out at me design-wise
[35:58] were the fact that, um, the, the playground and the pavilion are
[36:02] near the, uh, the catch basin, which could potentially
[36:07] be a wetter zone of mosquitoes, et cetera, et cetera. So
[36:11] I was thinking about the children, mosquitoes, those kind of things, uh, for that.
[36:16] and the other thing I was, uh, I wanted to point out was that when
[36:20] people are seeing a, um, uh, an event, they
[36:24] wanna watch the main, what's happening at the event and gaze out of the
[36:28] river. So by putting the pavilion against the parking lot, which I understand
[36:33] for sight lines, you know, that looks, that's nice mm-hmm . But
[36:37] for, uh, for the events and for the use of the town and the people who are in the
[36:41] town, I think that if the stage was flipped the other way around, like
[36:45] where it is now is I think brilliant barb was, uh,
[36:49] was fabulous because years ago we put it, uh, where number four
[36:54] is mm-hmm . Which was okay, it was that other way, but it locks the view from
[36:58] harvest. So, um, okay,
[37:02] there was that, that, and I think that's helpful
[37:06] and to cover the mosquitoes and the drainage. The number 11 here
[37:11] is going to be a rain garden. So that will capture
[37:15] all of that water and uh, oh
[37:19] and we'll carry it away before there's an opportunity for
[37:24] any mosquito breeding or anything like that. So, um, yeah,
[37:29] we were thinking the same thing. , we noted when we were out
[37:33] there that there were a couple low spots in that back area where, um, that were
[37:37] definitely still ponding after a few days after some rain. So we'd
[37:41] wanna handle that.
[37:49] . Good evening. Jim metzker. I live at 4 27 wall burton been
[37:53] in the village for 26 years. Um, I've also been part of
[37:57] many, many, many groups that have been looking at the waterfront in particular looking
[38:01] at the village. Um, so I have some, some questions, some
[38:06] comments. Um, the kayak access, we looked at doing
[38:10] kayak access probably 20 years ago. And one of the issues
[38:14] was when you have a solid ramp going down to the waterfront,
[38:19] as you get water up and down that ramp, whether it's concrete or wood, tends to grow,
[38:23] algae becomes incredibly slippery. So it's something I wanna make sure if we're gonna
[38:27] be doing something like this, that it's not something we're gonna have to maintain
[38:31] on a, you know, on a monthly basis to prevent any sort of issues
[38:35] from that. Um, you had mentioned doing lighting.
[38:40] I'm a photographer. I'm gonna have a few spots in the village where you can go photograph
[38:44] anything where you don't have a huge amount of light pollution. And if we do
[38:49] do lighting there, I'm hoping it will be not only dark sky compliant, but
[38:53] literally as minimal as possible is one of the few areas in the village
[38:57] where we can actually have a great view of the river and not be worried about
[39:01] having light, uh, light pollution issues. Um,
[39:07] not part of your project, but something to the village to consider access
[39:11] to the park involves if you're walking and we try be a walkable
[39:15] community walking down, what is it, about a half a mile parking lot and it's
[39:19] really a horrible way to enter the one really nice green space
[39:23] we have in the village. And I'm hoping the village would start looking at ways
[39:27] to beautify that, that walkway down
[39:32] by the tennis courts and down by canal cove so that you're not walking down
[39:36] an asphalt placing this, oh, now all of a sudden we're in the park. Which
[39:40] brings up also the issue of how we access the park currently.
[39:44] it's kind of almost hidden that you come in at the far end of the parking lot
[39:48] by harvest, you come in the other side. It would be nice if we could do something
[39:52] that had a a, a more grand gesture as an entrance
[39:56] into the park. Um,
[40:01] we have a boat yard and again, this is not part of your issue. It would be nice
[40:05] if the village could enter into discussion with the people that own that boat yard.
[40:10] um, it's really not a great looking place as I think we
[40:14] could all agree. It'd be nice if we could figure out some way to either screen it
[40:18] or to encourage them to, to improve.
[40:22] uh, the, the look of that. One of the issues
[40:26] I have with the design, and I understand the concept, I was part of a whole series
[40:31] of, of, uh, of issues we had after hurricane sandy.
[40:35] um, we were looking at the entire hudson river basin and all of
[40:39] the issues going on. Um, I understand the need for all the rip wrap,
[40:43] but the farther we push people away from the river, the less connected to the river we
[40:47] feel. I also understand them, I know about your impervious surfaces.
[40:52] I'm wondering if we couldn't develop some sort of viewpoint with a,
[40:57] an open steel grid where you could actually build that up over the rip wrap
[41:01] slightly elevated to allow people to get out over the river or
[41:05] at least above the river. Something to think about. Um,
[41:10] if we can't get, if you ever go down to any of our festivals, people are
[41:14] just gravitating, they're scrambling on those rocks. They want to be next to the water.
[41:18] it's a dangerous situation, but we can control that with proper design.
[41:23] so I'd like to do that also. The farther back you push people into the park
[41:27] with the way the roof wrap was set up, the more you reduce the sight lines up
[41:31] and down the river to the bridge and to the city and to the water,
[41:35] the , the water tower that I'm hoping we're gonna keep, um,
[41:40] you showed a variety of topography and I understand the need to raise the,
[41:45] the topography for sea level rise. One of the big issues
[41:49] we had during sandy is whenever there was an obstruction
[41:53] in either level of ground or with an actual retaining wall, as
[41:57] happened in irvington, water comes in and it has no way to drain
[42:01] back and you create this bathtub effect and the restaurants
[42:06] in irvington got hammered. We had water.
[42:10] I was down at the waterfront about, um, I don't know, an hour or two after the storm
[42:14] stopped. The water was literally up to the sliding glass doors into
[42:18] harvest. So we know that this area floods. We need to make sure
[42:22] as we create, and I love the idea of creating a change in topography, you get different
[42:26] elevations, just a much more natural landscape. We have to
[42:30] make sure that we're not gonna create a situation where we're going to create
[42:34] flooding and then retain all of that water. Um,
[42:39] I'm almost done, I promise. Um, in terms of benches, one of the
[42:43] issues we have, and this happens a lot during the, the festivals we have
[42:47] down here. Some people want to face the river, have the music to the back. Some
[42:51] people wanna be able to sit there face music, they have benches at the high line
[42:56] where the bench actually flips over from one side to the other. And that's a
[43:00] type of, of furniture I think would be very beneficial to have on the edge of the river.
[43:05] um, what adam talks about is critically important.
[43:09] the thing that makes hastings hastings, aside from the people that live here
[43:13] is the palisades. The palisades is a unique
[43:18] geologic formation on earth that exists nowhere else. You
[43:22] can go nowhere else and see that if we don't promote that,
[43:26] if we don't celebrate that with everything that we do. And I think adam had a
[43:30] great point. When people are watching the performers, they're watching the performers
[43:34] and they're also watching the sunset on on the palade,
[43:39] it's a huge deal. We want to make sure that we're celebrating that as much as possible.
[43:44] um, last thing. Are we gonna have, and this may be more for
[43:48] the village, there gonna be more public meetings like this. I'm very disappointed
[43:53] at the turnout at this meeting, quite honestly. I was hoping it would be much larger.
[43:57] this is adam said, we've been waiting for this for decades
[44:01] now and I love the fact that you guys are really bringing this home. I'm hoping
[44:06] this is the one that catches, it would be nice if we had another opportunity
[44:10] for people in the village to show up. And even if
[44:14] it's just to be informed. 'cause at a certain point I understand you can't just keep making changes.
[44:19] so, but we wanna make sure that the village is informed as we go ahead
[44:24] and a year and a half from now, we don't look at the thing, oh wait, when, when did
[44:28] we have a chance to take a look at this? I'd like to make sure the village knows. We would
[44:32] like to be more informed. Thank you for coming tonight.
[44:42] can't really expect to come to a meeting and have people show up. Not having spent
[44:47] half of their life working on the waterfront . So I
[44:51] spent quite a few hours in new paltz at the dec when we did our whole
[44:55] waterfront plan for the anaconda site and
[44:59] south. And um, and one of the things that was
[45:03] made very clear in the feedback we got from them is
[45:07] that mitigate, they were looking for mitigation everywhere. And uh,
[45:11] there was a lot of creative thinking that went into how that might happen on that side.
[45:16] um, so I assume that's an issue
[45:20] also with this plan with dec to get them to, or
[45:25] are they not insisting on mitigation? I'm gonna talk to that if that's
[45:29] okay. So, um, I work with dec all the time at army corps
[45:33] for every project that I have. Um, we know
[45:37] that we're in an adjacent area here. We're doing everything that we can to not add any
[45:41] fill within the water. So we won't need mitigation. If there is a
[45:46] possibility that we do have to add fill below mean high water, then
[45:50] we will look for areas to pull back. One of the areas could be where
[45:54] the get down is where we could pull it back and it would be a little bit harder of a surface or
[45:58] a, or a steeper slope to get us down to mud line.
[46:02] um, but in this case right now we are not going to ign mission and we're trying to avoid
[46:06] it at all. So the addition of the rip wrap is really back up
[46:11] into the space and that's correct. So it is the existing slope that's there now. Yeah,
[46:15] we are going to replenish it where needed. But again, trying to say it above
[46:19] being high water, it shouldn't be considered fill. And then everything
[46:24] that we're going to build up is gonna be a much steeper slope at the top, replenish
[46:28] in below it. And we're not going to be pushing back
[46:32] the land further because we're doing a steeper slope to raise this
[46:36] two feet. Okay. So you're not losing any land of land and you
[46:40] are also having a more sustainable waterfront structure.
[46:44] so yes, no fill below the high water. So, um, another
[46:49] question has to do with the trees. Um, it's a shame to have to
[46:53] take those trees out. I I am guessing that probably with the rise in
[46:57] sea level, they've got, uh, their number anyway is
[47:02] coming up right because of the exposing of the roots and more
[47:06] water. Um, so this is just comments related to kind of
[47:10] the necessity of doing that and what the timing would be. Um, but also
[47:14] the points have already been made by the previous two speakers and very predictable.
[47:19] 'cause when we're sitting there watching those concerts, it's really nice to be able to just kind of look
[47:23] over at the sunset or nobody's mentioned the fish jumping out in
[47:27] the river, you know, huge fish jumping out there all the time. . Um, so,
[47:31] you know, one, one possibility if, if the trees
[47:36] have to be changed, uh, replaced
[47:40] would be to put that pavilion kind of where we've been setting it up temporarily
[47:44] and put more trees back up where you've got the pavilion so that you
[47:48] still get the trees. But, but I think you're gonna find, uh, that
[47:52] the three of us are not the only ones that will have, you know, feelings about
[47:57] that because of the way we sort of interact with that, the palisades and the river
[48:01] and the music. And so it's, it's a thought.
[48:05] um, and I guess just to confirm
[48:09] what your, the plan would be to just do
[48:13] all, take the trees out and go right back in and replant. So it wouldn't
[48:18] be any kind of sort of staging of that over time. It would just be done
[48:22] all at the same time. I mean within the same project. In
[48:26] other words, not over a period of years or, yeah. Okay. Thank
[48:30] you. Yeah, thank you meredith. I just, um, the slide
[48:35] you showed of the different topography and the different heights,
[48:39] I am hoping people will watch this on tv for that here . And um, I just
[48:43] think that could be clarified a little bit because it's all different numbers all over it
[48:47] and I think that people may not understand that because unless
[48:51] this is their thing, right? So if you could explain that a little better, if you could go back to that slide.
[48:56] I think it would just be instructive. Um, so people have a sense of what's, what it's gonna
[49:00] look like. 'cause that is the number one thing, right? To be sure this part is sustainable
[49:05] and we do have to raise it. So that is the most important. Yeah. Yeah.
[49:09] this, um, does have a lot of numbers on it. Um,
[49:13] and I noticed on the screen up there it's a little washed out.
[49:17] um, but the idea here, so all of the different numbers that
[49:21] you see, um, the, the 6.9, the 6.5
[49:26] with the feet after them, right? That's the existing elevation
[49:30] of those, uh, spots. So harvest on hudson, it's
[49:34] at 6.9, the parking area just outside of, of harvest
[49:38] on hudson, it's at 6.5. Um, the access
[49:42] to the access walkway, uh, is at
[49:46] seven and thank you
[49:50] . Um, the whole middle kind of area of the park
[49:55] is at about four to five feet, so it's a little higher in
[49:59] the back towards harvest sun hudson. It's a little lower in the front, uh, towards
[50:03] the shoreline. And so what we're proposing in the rest of these elevations
[50:08] is this kind of middle call out here that you see where we're saying raise,
[50:12] raising the elevation one oh oh shoot, sorry, uh,
[50:16] raising the, the park elevation about one and a half to two feet.
[50:21] um, so the whole open lawn area, for example, it's at roughly
[50:25] four and we're saying let's raise that up to roughly five
[50:29] and a half to six. Um, that allows harvest on
[50:33] hudson to keep all of their beautiful views. It doesn't block their views
[50:37] and it allows for us to do the stabilized shoreline that
[50:41] gina was describing before. Um, so
[50:46] this whole kind of central area, let's say within the whole continuous
[50:50] walking path loop, um, would raise about one
[50:54] and a half to two feet. That varies a little bit throughout
[50:59] the space, right? Some areas are already a little higher. We don't need to go full two feet,
[51:04] that's why, uh, there's a variety of different numbers throughout there
[51:08] too. Um, and then we'd create a couple low points in the back
[51:12] that you see and those would be connected to the rain garden to pick
[51:16] up, um, in drainage structures and then, uh, get that water
[51:20] out of there so that we don't have standing water and we don't cause a mosquito problem
[51:25] or anything. Um, so that's the sort of overall
[51:29] gist to to describe that a little bit. I'm just gonna add to that. So
[51:33] this park is going to flood. We're not telling you that it's not going to flood, it will continue
[51:37] to flood, but we wanna make it so that it recovers much faster when it does flood.
[51:41] so we are doing studies to understand the contours that we would need to put in
[51:46] to be able to get the car to drain as quickly as possible and
[51:50] also avoiding it from having any erosion from this drainage. So
[51:54] as meredith was talking about, we wanna high point, so that's why it does drain
[51:59] very quickly and we are being very mindful that we're not draining back
[52:03] into an area like where harvest on the hudson is located
[52:07] or in an area like where the playground is that we're not flooding areas
[52:12] of that nature and that it can flood even towards the river, which is really where we want
[52:16] it to go. So this way goes off site as quickly as possible.
[52:23] oh,
[52:27] one clarification meredith. Sure. So the, the, the numbers that
[52:32] are lower on that, so the 4.5, the six points, no at the bottom part mm-hmm
[52:36] . Down here. Yes. Is that, is that what it's gonna be finally? Or is that what
[52:40] yeah, what it we're done and that's what I just wanted to clarify because I think it's a little unclear.
[52:45] yes. Yeah, so we think roughly that the areas, um,
[52:50] would end up at these elevations. So 4.5, this is a little bit of a lower spot
[52:55] where we wanna kind of intentionally bring you down again
[52:59] a little bit closer to the water so you feel that connection, um, at
[53:03] that overlook that's there. And you get a nice view up
[53:07] to the bridge from that spot and across the palade, um, the
[53:11] six on the other side, you actually kind of want to be up a little bit
[53:16] to get the view of manhattan. Um, so that's the
[53:20] reasoning for it. But yeah. Thank you.
[53:25] hi, um, I'm allison mueller and my husband and I moved to hastings this past summer
[53:29] and I'm actually brandon's granddaughter, um, .
[53:33] um, and so obviously very excited to see the park being cared for.
[53:37] um, we currently have, there's a stone bench in her honor that the family placed
[53:42] there, so I just wanted to make sure that that was gonna be cared for and
[53:46] yeah. Yeah. Thank you. I'm, I'm glad you mentioned that there's the stone bench and
[53:50] there's actually also a memorial art piece, um, that's
[53:54] in the park and those we've discussed already, kind of at length, um, that
[53:59] we would want to find someplace through the, the new
[54:03] layout where we can bring those back and honor them and give them a little bit
[54:07] more, um, ability than they have
[54:11] today. So thank you. Thanks for coming up.
[54:17] okay.
[54:22] um, I just have one question that I did ask before.
[54:26] is there any, um, amenity to have, um, electricity
[54:30] where the pavilion is or its stage? Yeah, so that was
[54:34] one of our thoughts actually with the location of the stage that we're showing right now
[54:39] is that that, um, you know, we had a similar kind of back and forth
[54:43] of where to put that. Uh, we went through a number of different kind of alternative
[54:47] layouts and uh, one of the things that did come up is
[54:52] that connection to electricity. So the best places
[54:56] to connect to the larger power would be out beyond the parking lot.
[55:01] so one of the things we were kind of trying to keep in mind with the location
[55:05] where we have it is that use of access for
[55:09] electric. So we did note that it
[55:13] does change the backdrop, so
[55:17] yeah. Okay, well I think let's open the, you know,
[55:22] get up and stretch our legs and walk around and, um, if you want to, you
[55:26] know, put your face kind of a little closer and see those, the boards are a little easier
[55:30] to see than the screen. Um, so there's a couple boards that are
[55:34] back there, there, the, there's two copies actually of the site plan. So you
[55:39] can leave, um, a sticky note with some comments. There's also
[55:43] a couple character images on one of the boards and we have
[55:47] little dot stickers that, you know, are sort of a voting mechanism.
[55:51] if you like something on a character image, you stick a dot on it. Um,
[55:56] if you don't like something, you have to tell us that with your words and we'll write a comment about why.
[56:00] um, and we'll stick that on there. And then there is also,
[56:04] um, a board about our project goals. So those overall goals that I talked about
[56:09] at the beginning, um, are reiterated on a board
[56:13] so you can kind of take a little bit more time to digest them and let us
[56:17] know if you have any thoughts. There's some sticky notes and docs back there. And there's
[56:21] also, we will also also have some with us. And feel free to come.
[56:26] hi. Can I make a comment? Ask a question. Okay. I don't have much of a voice.
[56:30] I called outta in my sick bed to come to this meeting for a few minutes. So I'm wearing
[56:34] a, uh, a mask. So I don't believe the microphone. Um, a couple
[56:38] of things I just curious, can I see the picture? Is that, where does that show where the stage
[56:42] is gonna be? Yeah. Or there's been many public comments on
[56:46] that location already. What's that? There have been, there have been many public comments on
[56:50] that location. Yeah, I've, I've heard, I've been listening on facebook, so I heard some, most of them.
[56:55] um, uh, I just wanna make sure I see the trees behind the
[56:59] stage. I just wanna point out that when we produce a concert,
[57:03] the trucks come in on the back road and they pull up behind the stage
[57:07] to unload equipment and that's where the band usually pulls in as well. It's how often to
[57:12] coming with a lot of equipment, the sound company, that other entrance tends to
[57:16] get very muddy. Um, just my harvest. Yeah. And we've
[57:20] also been asked to keep cars off that spot, so, and also that's where the public
[57:24] would be setting up. So would it be possible with the trees
[57:29] that are look, looks like are there to pull in behind the stage?
[57:33] um, we can definitely look it up. Okay. So yeah,
[57:38] I would appreciate that. And then also the sound company sets up, I guess they could to
[57:42] the right or the left of the state. They end up putting tables and attend on the side for
[57:46] the sound board, et cetera. I heard what was just said on my way about the
[57:50] electricity from the parking lot. We usually use a generator from the fire department. It'd be terrific if
[57:54] it was, it had electricity of course. Um, and then where's the playground
[57:58] gonna be? Which number is that? So number seven right here is the playground.
[58:03] okay. So that's gonna be pretty close to the backstage of the production area, but
[58:07] I guess just keep that in mind. The other thing is the performers might be facing the
[58:11] sunset, so the sun might be in their eyes, well they're playing, which might be
[58:15] a consideration. I think adam mentioned the audience preferring to
[58:19] look out at the river where this way their back will be for the river. Uh, I
[58:23] mean they can walk over and look at it on the side, but it's not quite the same as sitting there
[58:28] watching the sunset. We call it the sunset concert series. Um, so
[58:32] I don't know if it's too late to think about putting it where it was, but, but then obviously
[58:36] the figure would have to move a little back where it was so cars could drive in behind the
[58:40] stage. So those are my only thoughts about it, so. Okay. Okay.
[58:44] I appreciate them. Yeah. Yeah. And definitely no matter what not to put the stage blocking harvest
[58:49] 'cause that would be a big issue for them. That would be, yeah. , even though it was nice when it was
[58:53] in that corner, it didn't work with the, with the restaurant. Okay. Thank you so much. Awesome.
[58:57] thank you. Hi. Um, I just
[59:01] wanted to add one thing that we will be putting this presentation on our website
[59:06] and we do have a, a dedicated comment, uh,
[59:10] area there as well. So, um, if you think of something else after you
[59:14] go home that you forgot to share, uh, the opportunity still
[59:18] exists and, uh, on that, uh, same, uh, location on the
[59:22] website, we've, uh, put previous, um, uh,
[59:27] uh, powerpoints and things as, as we've gone through this, this iterative process.
[59:32] so, uh, yeah, let's all get up and stretch your legs as you suggested, and take
[59:36] a closer look at what you've got. Yeah. Awesome. Thank you.