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>>Thank you for all the public comment,

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we have received a lotThrough our

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emails, we appreciate that, and then

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during the presentation today, We don't

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cheer or clap, you're welcome to do

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this or raise your signs, but we don't

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really want to discourage anybodyFrom

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saying what they want to. Everybody

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gets that right, whether it's for or

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againstThe project, so we don't want to

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make anybody feel not welcome.. So with

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that, and John(INAUDIBLE)

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Kaleigh, can we start with roll call?

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>>Yes, thank you, chair.

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[CALLING ROLL]

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All are here.

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>>Okay, let's salute our flag, please.

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>>I pledge allegiance to the flag of

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the United States of America and to the

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republic for which it stands, one numb

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nation "One nation under God,

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indivisible, with liberty and justice

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for all.

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>>This is our special meeting of

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October 20, we have one agenda item and

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before we get to that agenda item, we

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are going to see if there's any

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modifications to the agenda.

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>>Good morning, Chair Bushnell, there

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are no modifications.

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>>Thank you, CAO Hayes, we are going to

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go to our County Counsel.

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>>Thank you, Chair Bushnell. Currently

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before the board is an ordinance

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amending section 311 " Seven of the

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Kumble "Humboldt County code by rezoning

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property in the McKinleyville area to

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mixed-use in adding the McKinleyville

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Towncenter Q-qualifiedCombining zone.

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>>Okay, so I am going to open the

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public hearing, and we are going to go

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to Director Ford.

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>>In morning, Chair Bushnell, members

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of the Board of Supervisors, John

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forward with the planning and building

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department.. Before I begin the

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presentation, just want to give a

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little bit of a proceduralDiscussion

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about public comment.So all the public

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comment that was receivedBeforeOctober

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15(INAUDIBLE) with the board report

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that was published, Anything after that

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board's office and is attached to, In

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the legistar file and is there. There

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were some subsequent comments that were

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received, and those you have on the

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dais this morning.So with that, I'm

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going to give a short, what I hope will

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be somewhat short presentationOn the

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TowncenterAnd

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>>I forgot to say one thing. Public

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comment is two minutes today, not

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three, and that will be for everyone. I

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really just if you have something to say

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, Please do, But it can get a little bit

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, You are welcome to say I agree,

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disagree, and you don't have to utilize

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the two minutes. I just want to put

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that out there. So thank you.

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>>My computer is killing me this

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morning. It will not going to display

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mode.So pardon me that this is going to

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beIn the work mode. This is a

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presentation onThe McKinleyville

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Towncenter,The things that I will go

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over briefly are the development of the

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ordinance, The Towncenter ordinance

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itself, the IR, the issues that seem to

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be of most concern to the public and

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then discuss the

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recommendation.

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First, I want to start by saying this

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is a process that started in 2019, the

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McKinleyville municipal advisory

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committeeIs created to collect

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informationThat's important to the

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community and provideRecommendations to

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the Board of Supervisors. So these are

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the currentIn past members and past

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chairs of theMcKinleyville municipal

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advisory committee, and they have

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worked tirelessly to bring this to this

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point.And there are members of the

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public, too, and I was afraid that I

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missed somebody, so I didn't try to name

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all the members of the public that

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participated in this, but there have

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been people who have been there every

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step of the way and it's so appreciated.

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So the McKinleyville town center comes

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out of the McKinleyville community plan

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to establish unique identity for

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McKinleyville that needs to be viable,

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a focal point for the community where

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social community interactionCan be

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conductedAnd it's identified as an area

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of mixed land usesWith encouragement

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for bicycle and pedestrian travelAnd

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also conveningConvenient automobile

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access. Some of the topics thatWere

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discussedIn great detail or how to

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address wetlands, It started off

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wondering whether not the definition

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should be modified within the community

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plan, that was ultimately decided by

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the bitmap they would not make the

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recommendation to do that, the town

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center also would be subject to the

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single parameter weapon requirement,

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spent a lot of time developing a

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pedestrian network, So there is a

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complete pedestrian connectivityBoth

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east-west from the McKinleyville Avenue

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all the way over to Pearson Park and

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there is a connection proposed linking

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the midtown trail and also pedestrian

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connectivity along central. So these

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only, The concept went from having

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individualAs Olds to zoning the entire

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Cal center mixed-useWith specific

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overlays on addressing how to deal with

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that. The building design is base code

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and that was something that was done to

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try to create more of an urban downtown

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feel with commercial uses on the first

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floor residential above that and then

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the road design, I know, it's going to

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be the big discussion today which was

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how to address central Avenue. There

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are policies within the McKinleyville

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community plantTo address pedestrians

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crossing central and so theUltimate

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what's been called the road diet is a

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function that came out of that.

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So this is an areaIdentified with the

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McKinleyville community plan is being

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the town center.And what is being

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proposedIsThere's one project that's

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actually proposed, That's the life plan

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Humboldt project, that's the area

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outlined inPurple south of Hilton. So

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the proposal is to sold basically the

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entire property mixed use, And so there

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would be one, been sold throughout the

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entire town center and that would be

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mixed use and that would be modifiedIn

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the Q Zone would have uses that are

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broken up like this, there will be a 14

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acreWetland on the Western end of the

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property, That is described wetland

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conservation preservation re-creation,

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part of that will be to retain halfOf

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the growth that exists there, so

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there's a little bit of flexibilityWith

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respect to the where that goes with the

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idea is to retain the Spruce Grove that

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exists there, because that is kind of

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identifying landmark of the landscape.

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You'll notice the public facility which

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is also encourage within the community

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plan is retained at Pearson Park, that

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also includes the library, Azalea Hall,

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the Sheriff substation. In the

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community center. The are three seems a

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little out of place, but the reason for

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that is that's where the Thunderbird

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trailer park is that there was a desire

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not to create the trailer park is being

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a nonconforming use. So the Arthur

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resultingBasically it's retained for

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that location.The IRR was prepared to

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evaluate the impacts of implementing

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the town center and that would be

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looking forward to actual construction

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becauseThe objective here is to have

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the actual construction of buildingsTo

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be ministerial, there may be a need for

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discretionary permits such as related

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to obtaining permitsTo relocate wetlands

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. So the EIRIs both programmatic but

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also provides environmentalSite

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clearance for future developments, And

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it alsoClearly would include

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(INAUDIBLE). In the EIR, there were

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significant impact without mitigation,

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those are shown in white, there's less

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than significant after mitigations

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provided, those are shown in yellow,

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and there was one significant

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unavoidable impact and that was related

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to theTraffic noise along the railroad.

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The concern there wasn't that it

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exceeded 60 DV, which is the adorable

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plan bubble allowable, it's that it

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increase the overall noise by more than

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5 dB, up to 7 dB.Due to the fact that

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it's already a low-speed mode there

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wasn't really, and the homes of the

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wasn't the ability to provideSound

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attenuation there, soIt was deemed to

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be a significant unavoidable impact.

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One of the interesting thingsThat

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confuses people, we are in an area "Heir

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of the environmental quality actTo

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evaluate level of service, it's now

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based on vehicle miles traveled, and

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since the project is so focused on

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pedestrian and bicycle in transit, It

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really is a self mitigating project and

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the impact was determined to be less

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than significant.The central Avenue

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laid reductionHad no SQL impact. There

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was, and I will talk about this a

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little bit more later, there was an

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operational analysisThat was done

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through the projectThat was separate

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from BNT, and that is also includedAs

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an appendix to the EIR.

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alternatives, what is the project

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alternative, that always has to be

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evaluatedWithin a reduced scale

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project. One thing that is a concern

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for some people is the amount of

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development that could be allowed. I

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will go into a little bit more detail

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about that but what the EIR did was

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evaluated the theoretical maximum that

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could be filled so whatever happens out

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there would not exceed that, So that's

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not, those aren't regulatory numbers.

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The Micmac recommended building with

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the project as proposed rather than

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trying to reduce itPrimarily because

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there is a need for housing within the

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communityAnd with in Humboldt County.

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The ARR, the draftWe received 28 letters

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, Most of them came fromIndividualsWho

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commented on the document. There was

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one letter from state agency, one from

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a local agency, one from the

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nongovernmental organization.And so the

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final EIR includes the DE IR, it

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includes the changes that were madeTo

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the EIR and responding to the comments

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and in response to comments.There

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We did include some responses.related

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to the IR but focused on ordinance

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requirements, just wanted to explain

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why that's notSomething that the IRS

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going to respond to. I do want to say

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some of the comments did result in

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changesTo the EIR and we included those

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here. What was just included an updated

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cross-sectionIn the DIR, But we updated

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that with the new exhibit, we modified

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air quality mitigation. We also

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modified some of the biological

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resource mitigationPrimarily to address

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the concerns from the Department of

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Fish and wildlife and then try to

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address the noise little bit more

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thoroughly by having a construction

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noise coordinator and then including

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the alternativesIn the table to reduce

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alternatives. Some of the areas of

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concern you've seen relate to wetlands,

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Central Avenue, Relate to the amount

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analyzed in the open space, I will go

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through those briefly. The first one is

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related to wetlands and the concern with

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Policies 14 and 15 within the community

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plan.And that policy says up on

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existing parcelsShall be permitted.And

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one of the things that you will see is

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that there are actuallyFive existing

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undeveloped parcels that these policies

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would apply toAnd for thoseOur existing

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four of those are existing parcels

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since the community play. That would

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clearly be under policy 14 which allows

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Impacts of the wetlands provided they

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are mitigated. Policy 15, then, is the

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one that becomes a concernPeer and

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since no land use or development shall

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be permittedWhich degrade the wetland

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for distract from natural resource value

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. So the life plan Humboldt parcel was

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subdivided since adoption of the

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committee plan. So it is clearly

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subject to policy. One of the things I

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would point out, the reason I put this

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in different colors is if it said no

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land use or development shall be

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permitted wetland areas of newly

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created parcels, that would beVery

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clear, but it doesn't say that. It

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provides a modifier there which degrade

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the wetlands or detract from the

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natural value of the staff report and

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the findings, there's a great amount of

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analysis describing whyThe life plan

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humble is consistent with that.

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So I probably just went through this

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fast, I will just skip over that.One

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concern is the amount of development

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allowed, And it evaluates the

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possibility of 2650 units in 25 volumes

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per acre, and evaluated 106 acres. The

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total town center is 134 acres, so

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obviously Pearson Park was subtracted

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out, the public facilities were

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subtracted out with that basically

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leaves 54 acres undeveloped which would

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be about 1350 units, life plan Hubble

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is already developing propose to develop

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and they are at 144 unitsThey

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developed a 25 units per acre they

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would have 211 units.The area upon

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Pickett where it says 4.3 acres up

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there and kind of the(INAUDIBLE) color,

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that was a more recent modification

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that Micmac made a recommendation on,

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the property owner there wanted10 years

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to the acre, so what was proposed there

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is about 43 units, Making it 64. You

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can see the EIR was very conservative

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in the analysis. It probably won't ever

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reach the 2650 units. In order to do

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that, areas within the town centerWould

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need to be redeveloped.There would be

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the existing development that would

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need to be redoneAnd redeveloped under

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the town center.

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Another concern was space, the

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ordinance requires 3% of undeveloped

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property to be devoted toSome sort of

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open spaceWith a minimum of one site

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being at least 20,000 ft. . In this,

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the open space can be combined into one

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area or it can be spread across the

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properties, And so the 54 undeveloped

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acres would be about 1.62 acres. The

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Micmac the last meeting that they held

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was somewhat split, Some were open to

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the idea of looking for more than

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20,000 ft. , others thought that1.62

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acres was really what dictates hereAnd

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they were fine with the language as is.

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So I am not going to read all this to

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you, The other concern is related to

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parkland and the way that parkland and

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is currently addressed within

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McKinleyville is that there's an option

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to either dedicate or to pay a part fee

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and then the part fee is usually

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provided to theMcKinleyville community

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services District and they develop

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parks using that fee, we recently had

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the board approve a request to transfer

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money to in CSD for the BMX Park, so

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that's what's in red down there, partly

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for public parksWhich meet those

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standards. The development of the town

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center will be consistent with current

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practice and consistent with what is

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allowed not only in thePolicies of the

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community plan itself but also in

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(INAUDIBLE).

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And then there was a comment about

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TraditionalVillage form, and there is a

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river reference to that, these are the

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actual languages from the guidelines,

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to assure a traditional village form,

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to avoid the strip shopping center look

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. So which is the driving focus here?

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Is it trying to define what a

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traditional villageIsOr is it to stay

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away from the standard strip shopping

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center look? That's really what the

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objective of the Q Zone, the Towncenter

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01:00:52,100 --> 01:00:53,100
ordinance is intended to do is create a

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very walkablePedestrian oriented feel,

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similar to what traditionalDevelopment

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would look likeIn a state where you

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didn't have the tradition or the more

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01:01:06,100 --> 01:01:09,100
recent strip designWith parking in the

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01:01:09,100 --> 01:01:12,100
frontIn building's behind the parking.

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The big area of concern, Light as you

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are aware, of us that of (INAUDIBLE),

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so this is what the McKinleyville

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Municipal advisory committee ultimately

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recommended approvalAnd this would be

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three lanes. There would be in North

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Lane, Southlake, center lane. There

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01:01:42,100 --> 01:01:43,100
would be a buffered bike lane, and then

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01:01:43,100 --> 01:01:45,401
there would bePedestrian sidewalk

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01:01:50,100 --> 01:01:51,100
adjacent to the buildings. One of the

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01:01:51,100 --> 01:01:52,100
things I think is important to

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01:01:52,100 --> 01:01:53,100
understand about this drawing that is

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accurately presented is that theCode

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01:02:01,100 --> 01:02:02,100
looks to place buildings at the back of

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the walk so you have more of a town

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01:02:03,100 --> 01:02:07,100
center kind of feel. So shop frontsWith

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01:02:07,100 --> 01:02:10,601
residences,Originally there was a tree

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01:02:16,100 --> 01:02:17,100
or the room read planner, there is a

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01:02:17,100 --> 01:02:18,100
landscape strip there, the Micmac

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01:02:18,100 --> 01:02:22,100
realized,There is utilities in this area

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. It would not be good to place

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01:02:25,100 --> 01:02:28,601
landscaping there and soThey took that

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01:02:29,100 --> 01:02:34,401
out and they wanted to see some kind of

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01:02:38,100 --> 01:02:39,100
rock, gravel, some decorative payment

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01:02:39,100 --> 01:02:40,100
treatment still keeping the curb, the

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01:02:40,100 --> 01:02:41,100
buffered bicycle lane, But with the

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01:02:41,100 --> 01:02:44,100
possibility if allowedTo place some

430
01:02:46,100 --> 01:02:49,100
kind of planter in that area, so that's

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01:02:49,100 --> 01:02:52,100
what's reflected there. Obviously, the

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01:02:53,100 --> 01:02:56,100
current configuration of the roadIs

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four lanes, and I want to clarify

434
01:02:59,100 --> 01:03:00,100
something, I heard a lot, I read a lot

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01:03:00,100 --> 01:03:03,100
of comments aboutThe thinking that the

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01:03:03,100 --> 01:03:06,100
entirety ofMcKinleyville Avenue would be

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01:03:12,100 --> 01:03:13,100
In two lanes. So this is drawing, I'm

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01:03:13,100 --> 01:03:14,100
sorry for the scale, I could get it any

439
01:03:14,100 --> 01:03:18,100
largerAnd have it often on a slide with

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01:03:18,100 --> 01:03:19,100
the area in origin showing the existing

441
01:03:19,100 --> 01:03:22,100
two lane segments of McKinleyville

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Avenue.

443
01:03:27,100 --> 01:03:28,100
>>Are you referring to Central Avenue?

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01:03:28,100 --> 01:03:29,100
>>Central, thank you.

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01:03:29,100 --> 01:03:31,100
[LAUGHING]

446
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McKinleyville Avenue is to the west.

447
01:03:34,100 --> 01:03:38,100
The green areaIs an area that will

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01:03:38,100 --> 01:03:42,100
remain four lanes.The blue area is the

449
01:03:42,100 --> 01:03:46,201
area that would be where the lane

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01:03:47,100 --> 01:03:48,100
reduction is. That would be between

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01:03:48,100 --> 01:03:51,100
Railroad AvenueAnd hardwood. While I do

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not have the numbers to demonstrate this

453
01:03:54,100 --> 01:03:58,801
, I do drive this enough to know that

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01:03:59,100 --> 01:04:00,100
when you come off the freeway and go up

455
01:04:00,100 --> 01:04:02,100
over Bella Vista HillAnd come down and

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01:04:02,100 --> 01:04:05,100
hit the four-lane segmentThat before

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01:04:08,100 --> 01:04:09,100
you even go through the light at the

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shopping center, a lot of people are

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01:04:10,100 --> 01:04:11,100
alreadyGetting that right lane because

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the big turning movement is at the

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01:04:15,100 --> 01:04:18,100
center Road intersection. And Sutter

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road, that intersection will not be

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01:04:23,100 --> 01:04:26,100
affected by this.In fact, just personal

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experience, I was in the Chevron

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01:04:29,100 --> 01:04:32,100
station at SutterIn central Saturday

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and was looking to make a left onto

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01:04:38,100 --> 01:04:40,100
Sutter to get back on central and there

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01:04:40,100 --> 01:04:41,100
were nine cars stacked in the turning

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lane. So the primary turning movement is

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01:04:46,100 --> 01:04:49,100
on and off of Sutter there, there's a

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01:04:49,100 --> 01:04:52,100
lot of traffic that goesOutsider,

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01:04:52,100 --> 01:04:54,401
there's water development. The

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01:04:55,100 --> 01:04:58,100
four-lane section within Park would

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Which is also another place where there

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01:05:01,100 --> 01:05:02,100
is a lot of traffic that turns off on

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the hardwoodBefore getting into the

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Upper section therebetween heart would

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and redwood. I hope that helps a little

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01:05:16,100 --> 01:05:17,100
bit for context, it's not all of the

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four-lane section that would be

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01:05:18,100 --> 01:05:20,100
affected.

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Also wanted to say that the planning

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01:05:22,100 --> 01:05:25,601
commission wasKind of vexed with what

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01:05:29,100 --> 01:05:30,100
to do about this, they were concerned,

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01:05:30,100 --> 01:05:31,100
that in order to see traffic jams, they

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01:05:31,100 --> 01:05:33,100
don't want to see the communityPut into

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01:05:33,100 --> 01:05:36,100
place with traffic solutions that

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01:05:37,100 --> 01:05:38,100
nobody likes. So they asked for

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01:05:38,100 --> 01:05:41,100
additional studyTo be done. As part of

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01:05:41,100 --> 01:05:45,201
the recommendation today. But I do want

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01:05:49,100 --> 01:05:50,100
to point out that one of the things the

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01:05:50,100 --> 01:05:54,100
Micmac asked for and was provided was

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that there was an operational analysis

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01:05:55,100 --> 01:05:57,401
doneFor all the intersectionsAroundThe

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01:06:00,100 --> 01:06:04,100
town center.So that evaluated Murray in

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central, It identified and evaluated

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01:06:08,100 --> 01:06:10,401
MurrayAnd McKinleyville peer can

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01:06:15,100 --> 01:06:18,100
identify the intersections down along

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01:06:19,100 --> 01:06:22,100
McKinleyville and down alongCentral to

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Heartwood. And so it did fine, that

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01:06:27,100 --> 01:06:31,100
there would be impacts.It did also

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01:06:31,100 --> 01:06:33,100
provide what the solutions, the

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01:06:33,100 --> 01:06:35,100
improvements that can be made for those

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01:06:35,100 --> 01:06:37,401
intersectionsTo maintain an adequate

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01:06:38,100 --> 01:06:42,201
level of service. It did not address,

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01:06:44,100 --> 01:06:45,100
though, intersections that were outside

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01:06:45,100 --> 01:06:47,100
of the city area. So did the address

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somebody turns are being madeIn

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(INAUDIBLE) as school Road. It also did

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01:06:52,100 --> 01:06:56,201
notInvolve something that is kind of a

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new topic of discussion that really

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01:07:03,100 --> 01:07:04,100
wasn't a topic of discussion with this

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01:07:04,100 --> 01:07:05,100
process started which is a possibility

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01:07:05,100 --> 01:07:08,601
of havingI hello Road interchange.They

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01:07:10,100 --> 01:07:12,401
are lookingAt northbound southbound.

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01:07:16,100 --> 01:07:19,601
These options were provided to theMicmac

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and they are also provided to the

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01:07:23,100 --> 01:07:26,601
Planning commission and these come out

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01:07:27,100 --> 01:07:30,100
Of the McKinleyvilleModality study and

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the one the upper rightWas an

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01:07:34,100 --> 01:07:36,401
alternativeThat maintain basically the

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01:07:38,100 --> 01:07:41,601
five lane alignment, four legs North,

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01:07:43,100 --> 01:07:44,100
four-lane South with a center turn

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lane, it maintainOn street bike paths

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and a 10 foot bike pedestrian path that

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separated from the street on the west

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01:07:55,100 --> 01:07:59,100
side of the road.One of the things that

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01:07:59,100 --> 01:08:03,201
The Micmac made the comment about, I

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01:08:04,100 --> 01:08:05,100
don't know that this was unanimous, but

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there were concernsThe existing bridal

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01:08:10,100 --> 01:08:11,100
trail they may be incompatible with the

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01:08:11,100 --> 01:08:15,100
code desire to have white sidewalks in

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01:08:15,100 --> 01:08:16,100
the retail on the first floor. So that

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01:08:16,100 --> 01:08:20,201
wasSix rejected. What was brought up in

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01:08:22,100 --> 01:08:27,401
at least one of the letters, it has an

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01:08:28,100 --> 01:08:29,100
alternative to the current road that I

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01:08:29,100 --> 01:08:30,100
proposed, the other lane reduction was

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01:08:30,100 --> 01:08:33,601
reallyNot so much of payment reduction.

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This would also include the bridal trail

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01:08:37,100 --> 01:08:40,601
which the Micmac commented on, ButIt

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01:08:43,100 --> 01:08:45,100
is a three lane alternativeIn the

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01:08:45,100 --> 01:08:48,100
center turn lane withBuffered by Clay

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01:08:48,100 --> 01:08:52,201
on each side. SoEven the modality study

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01:08:54,100 --> 01:08:56,401
did not recommend approval.

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So the recommendation to the Board of

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Supervisors is to adopt the resolution

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and certify the EIR andAdopt a running

548
01:09:13,100 --> 01:09:14,100
consideration, adopt the monitoring

549
01:09:14,100 --> 01:09:18,201
program, adopt a resolution to make all

550
01:09:20,100 --> 01:09:21,100
required findings for adoption of the

551
01:09:21,100 --> 01:09:22,100
zoning ordinance and then adopt the

552
01:09:22,100 --> 01:09:25,601
ordinance to rezone the town center

553
01:09:29,100 --> 01:09:30,100
mixed use with the Q Zone only late in

554
01:09:30,100 --> 01:09:31,100
direct any work done in central Avenue

555
01:09:31,100 --> 01:09:34,100
be done with an updated traffic analysis

556
01:09:34,100 --> 01:09:35,100
And designed to be presented to the

557
01:09:35,100 --> 01:09:38,100
Micmac public discussion. With that, I

558
01:09:38,100 --> 01:09:39,100
am happy to answer any questions you

559
01:09:39,100 --> 01:09:41,100
might have.

560
01:09:45,100 --> 01:09:46,100
>>Okay, thank you. From the board, will

561
01:09:46,100 --> 01:09:47,100
do clarifying questions Alina will go

562
01:09:47,100 --> 01:09:48,100
to public comment. And then I will go

563
01:09:48,100 --> 01:09:52,801
back to JohnAnd then back to the board.

564
01:09:54,100 --> 01:09:55,100
Any clarifying questions on the

565
01:09:55,100 --> 01:09:57,100
presentation?Supervisor Oreo.

566
01:10:02,100 --> 01:10:03,100
Something I didn't see is the part of

567
01:10:03,100 --> 01:10:07,201
the presentation was, I am a bit

568
01:10:08,100 --> 01:10:09,100
familiar but I can always use more

569
01:10:09,100 --> 01:10:10,100
information about this, about what the

570
01:10:10,100 --> 01:10:11,100
public process has beenThat surrounded

571
01:10:11,100 --> 01:10:13,100
all of this.

572
01:10:14,100 --> 01:10:18,201
>>Thank you, so we started offTrying to

573
01:10:20,100 --> 01:10:21,100
decide what would be an appropriate

574
01:10:21,100 --> 01:10:22,100
committee. Initially, the Micmac was

575
01:10:22,100 --> 01:10:25,100
thinking about appointing people, But

576
01:10:26,100 --> 01:10:27,100
then it was still need to come back to

577
01:10:27,100 --> 01:10:29,100
the Micmac for consideration, and their

578
01:10:29,100 --> 01:10:31,401
recommendation, And so the

579
01:10:37,100 --> 01:10:38,100
recommendation was made to the Micmac

580
01:10:38,100 --> 01:10:39,100
which they agreed to, they service that

581
01:10:39,100 --> 01:10:41,100
committee to serve asThe place where

582
01:10:41,100 --> 01:10:45,201
public meetings will be held, or public

583
01:10:47,100 --> 01:10:48,100
input will be taken anywhere public

584
01:10:48,100 --> 01:10:49,100
discussion when we had. The first

585
01:10:49,100 --> 01:10:52,601
couple of meetings or meetings that

586
01:10:55,100 --> 01:10:56,100
were really not convened as the Micmac,

587
01:10:56,100 --> 01:10:57,100
they were much larger, we set up

588
01:10:57,100 --> 01:10:58,100
tables. First we didn't introduction

589
01:10:58,100 --> 01:11:02,201
and an overviewIn the Azalea Hall, and

590
01:11:06,100 --> 01:11:07,100
We had maybe 75 people there. Then we

591
01:11:07,100 --> 01:11:10,601
conducted a meetingBroke out in the

592
01:11:14,100 --> 01:11:15,100
table for people in the first meeting

593
01:11:15,100 --> 01:11:16,100
had identified the areas they would

594
01:11:16,100 --> 01:11:20,801
like to study and talk aboutAnd so we

595
01:11:21,100 --> 01:11:22,100
Set those and let people go around the

596
01:11:22,100 --> 01:11:25,100
tables and talk aboutWhat it was they

597
01:11:25,100 --> 01:11:29,201
wanted to see.From there we got

598
01:11:36,100 --> 01:11:37,100
sidetracked frankly on wetlands and

599
01:11:37,100 --> 01:11:38,100
that discussion was the focus for a few

600
01:11:38,100 --> 01:11:42,201
meetings and we then got intoCOVID, And

601
01:11:43,100 --> 01:11:44,100
it slowed down a little bit and started

602
01:11:44,100 --> 01:11:46,401
holding remote meetingsAndDuring that

603
01:11:50,100 --> 01:11:53,100
timePeople started asking what does

604
01:11:54,100 --> 01:11:57,601
this look like, what would the

605
01:11:59,100 --> 01:12:00,100
Towncenter look like, and we actually

606
01:12:00,100 --> 01:12:04,100
hired a great architect to come in and

607
01:12:04,100 --> 01:12:07,100
help us do a presentations and develop

608
01:12:07,100 --> 01:12:09,401
Something representative of what

609
01:12:15,100 --> 01:12:16,100
form-based code could look like in cash

610
01:12:16,100 --> 01:12:17,100
loser came and help us with that then a

611
01:12:17,100 --> 01:12:18,100
blocking study and amassing study and

612
01:12:18,100 --> 01:12:19,100
even did some things that you can see

613
01:12:19,100 --> 01:12:22,100
it from different angles and that I

614
01:12:22,100 --> 01:12:25,100
think help the public and helpedThe

615
01:12:25,100 --> 01:12:28,601
Micmac understandWhat it was that was

616
01:12:29,100 --> 01:12:31,100
being proposed here? Got into a

617
01:12:31,100 --> 01:12:34,100
discussion, the discussion of Central

618
01:12:36,100 --> 01:12:37,100
Avenue has been up and down and back

619
01:12:37,100 --> 01:12:41,201
and forth the entire timeAnd soOne of

620
01:12:42,100 --> 01:12:43,100
the things I want to point out that I

621
01:12:43,100 --> 01:12:47,201
think some people in the public were

622
01:12:48,100 --> 01:12:49,100
dissatisfied well with was the abnormal

623
01:12:49,100 --> 01:12:52,601
allowance for three minutes to speak,

624
01:12:55,100 --> 01:12:56,100
And so I think some people really

625
01:12:56,100 --> 01:12:57,100
wanted to have more back-and-forth but

626
01:12:57,100 --> 01:13:01,801
in order to maintain some sense of order

627
01:13:05,100 --> 01:13:06,100
, That wasn't allowed for. Went through

628
01:13:06,100 --> 01:13:07,100
all the items that I put up there on

629
01:13:07,100 --> 01:13:10,601
the screenAn ordinance was written, and

630
01:13:11,100 --> 01:13:15,100
then we probably spent, I want to say

631
01:13:15,100 --> 01:13:18,100
two years going through iterations of

632
01:13:18,100 --> 01:13:21,100
that ordinance. Staff responding to

633
01:13:23,100 --> 01:13:24,100
comments including something within the

634
01:13:24,100 --> 01:13:26,401
documentHaving the public comment,

635
01:13:28,100 --> 01:13:31,100
having the Micmac comment on it and

636
01:13:31,100 --> 01:13:35,100
then kind of going through it until we

637
01:13:35,100 --> 01:13:36,100
Got a finished document, we got a

638
01:13:36,100 --> 01:13:38,100
stable documentAnd based upon that we

639
01:13:38,100 --> 01:13:41,100
prepared theDraft EIRAnd then coming

640
01:13:45,100 --> 01:13:46,100
out of the draft EIR, so subtle changes

641
01:13:46,100 --> 01:13:49,601
were madeBut nothing that is really

642
01:13:50,100 --> 01:13:53,100
significant. Ability to bothThe EIR

643
01:13:57,100 --> 01:13:58,100
with the draft EIR is the final

644
01:13:58,100 --> 01:14:02,100
diversion of the document back to BRIC

645
01:14:02,100 --> 01:14:03,100
for their recommendation to the

646
01:14:03,100 --> 01:14:04,100
planning commission. The planning

647
01:14:04,100 --> 01:14:05,100
commission received the recommendation

648
01:14:05,100 --> 01:14:08,601
of the MicmacAnd they consider the

649
01:14:09,100 --> 01:14:10,100
public testimony, considered what was

650
01:14:10,100 --> 01:14:13,100
presented May the recommendation to

651
01:14:15,100 --> 01:14:16,100
adopt the ordinance, certify the EIR

652
01:14:16,100 --> 01:14:17,100
with no changes.

653
01:14:17,100 --> 01:14:21,201
>>Thank you. So it's been about six

654
01:14:22,100 --> 01:14:24,100
years now? Thank you. Hear any other

655
01:14:24,100 --> 01:14:26,401
clarifying questions?Supervisor Wilson,

656
01:14:29,100 --> 01:14:31,100
then supervisor Madrone. And then

657
01:14:31,100 --> 01:14:33,100
supervisor Bohn.

658
01:14:36,100 --> 01:14:38,100
>>This cutting goes into the Q Zone part

659
01:14:38,100 --> 01:14:41,100
Of the discussion which isI read in

660
01:14:41,100 --> 01:14:44,601
there that thereIs the encouragement of

661
01:14:45,100 --> 01:14:49,801
the shared parking as well as kind of

662
01:14:50,100 --> 01:14:51,100
moving away from the parking frontage

663
01:14:51,100 --> 01:14:55,100
to a more town style frontage and it's

664
01:14:55,100 --> 01:14:58,100
kind of wondering how does that manifest

665
01:14:58,100 --> 01:15:02,201
? From the word several people "From the

666
01:15:08,100 --> 01:15:09,100
word on paper that's moving forward

667
01:15:09,100 --> 01:15:10,100
today.

668
01:15:10,100 --> 01:15:11,100
>>I think that's part of the concern

669
01:15:11,100 --> 01:15:12,100
for many members of the community as

670
01:15:12,100 --> 01:15:13,100
well. When somebody would come in with

671
01:15:13,100 --> 01:15:17,201
an application for a permit and they

672
01:15:18,100 --> 01:15:19,100
didn't require discretionary permit,

673
01:15:19,100 --> 01:15:21,100
then the town center in the form-based

674
01:15:21,100 --> 01:15:25,100
code would be used to evaluateThe design

675
01:15:25,100 --> 01:15:27,100
Of the project, not only the site plan

676
01:15:27,100 --> 01:15:28,100
but also(INAUDIBLE).

677
01:15:28,100 --> 01:15:32,201
>>It seems like there either hasn't been

678
01:15:38,100 --> 01:15:39,100
Encouragement of that in the past,

679
01:15:39,100 --> 01:15:42,100
maybe even just a different visionOf

680
01:15:42,100 --> 01:15:47,100
how that looks at what that is, and so

681
01:15:47,100 --> 01:15:48,100
what you're saying is basically that

682
01:15:48,100 --> 01:15:51,601
encouragement occurs in the design phase

683
01:15:52,100 --> 01:15:53,100
of a new project and there's now

684
01:15:53,100 --> 01:15:56,100
direction to move away fromThe

685
01:16:03,100 --> 01:16:04,100
standard, which is a big parking lots

686
01:16:04,100 --> 01:16:05,100
in front and businesses and back.

687
01:16:05,100 --> 01:16:06,100
This is very much intended to do things

688
01:16:06,100 --> 01:16:09,100
at a human pedestrian scale.

689
01:16:10,100 --> 01:16:11,100
>>I appreciate that. You probably have

690
01:16:11,100 --> 01:16:15,201
a few other questionsBut I will wait

691
01:16:17,100 --> 01:16:18,100
till after the comments.

692
01:16:18,100 --> 01:16:19,100
>>Supervisor Madrone?

693
01:16:19,100 --> 01:16:23,801
>>Thank you.John, I want to, Some of

694
01:16:24,100 --> 01:16:25,100
the issues had to do a density building

695
01:16:25,100 --> 01:16:27,100
height and of course the wetlands were

696
01:16:27,100 --> 01:16:30,601
discussed through the six year process

697
01:16:34,100 --> 01:16:35,100
over and over. Is it true that the

698
01:16:35,100 --> 01:16:36,100
proposed zoning that we consider here

699
01:16:36,100 --> 01:16:38,401
todayActually reduces density from

700
01:16:39,100 --> 01:16:41,100
existing zoning?

701
01:16:45,100 --> 01:16:46,100
>>That is true.

702
01:16:46,100 --> 01:16:47,100
>>Is it also true that it reduces

703
01:16:47,100 --> 01:16:49,100
building height the existing zoning

704
01:16:49,100 --> 01:16:50,100
that exist today.

705
01:16:50,100 --> 01:16:52,100
Is also true.

706
01:16:52,100 --> 01:16:55,601
>>Those are important to recognize, it

707
01:17:01,100 --> 01:17:02,100
actually reduces these things compared

708
01:17:02,100 --> 01:17:04,100
to the existing zoning. On the wetlands

709
01:17:04,100 --> 01:17:05,100
, would you say from your professional

710
01:17:05,100 --> 01:17:08,100
opinion thatMost of the existing

711
01:17:15,100 --> 01:17:16,100
wetlands out there that are little

712
01:17:16,100 --> 01:17:17,100
pockets here and there that are mostly

713
01:17:17,100 --> 01:17:18,100
degraded wetlands, others of high

714
01:17:18,100 --> 01:17:19,100
quality ones, mostly they are degraded

715
01:17:19,100 --> 01:17:23,201
and they will be replaced at a 1.5:1

716
01:17:26,100 --> 01:17:27,100
ratio for the wetlands complex. Are you

717
01:17:27,100 --> 01:17:28,100
saying that's also true?

718
01:17:28,100 --> 01:17:32,801
>>That is true.I am not a wetlands

719
01:17:39,100 --> 01:17:40,100
biologist.

720
01:17:40,100 --> 01:17:41,100
>>Understood.

721
01:17:41,100 --> 01:17:42,100
>>We did walk the site with the

722
01:17:42,100 --> 01:17:43,100
wetlands biologist and with the

723
01:17:43,100 --> 01:17:44,100
scientist from the California Department

724
01:17:44,100 --> 01:17:45,100
Of fish and wildlife, the Micmac went

725
01:17:45,100 --> 01:17:46,100
out there on that trip. I believe you

726
01:17:46,100 --> 01:17:49,100
were there on that trip, I believe

727
01:17:49,100 --> 01:17:50,100
members of the public were there on

728
01:17:50,100 --> 01:17:54,100
that trip, so the biologist did point

729
01:17:54,100 --> 01:17:55,100
out where there were higher quality

730
01:17:55,100 --> 01:17:57,100
wetlandsAnd where there were lower

731
01:17:57,100 --> 01:18:00,601
quality wetlands, And that is really

732
01:18:03,100 --> 01:18:04,100
what started the discussion around the

733
01:18:04,100 --> 01:18:05,100
14 acre set asideThose based upon that

734
01:18:05,100 --> 01:18:07,401
trailAnd having that discussion.

735
01:18:15,100 --> 01:18:16,100
>>Great, thank you for that. I think

736
01:18:16,100 --> 01:18:17,100
there's been a lot of misconceptions

737
01:18:17,100 --> 01:18:21,100
about the wetlands issue in the media,

738
01:18:21,100 --> 01:18:25,100
In social media, etc., were a lot of

739
01:18:25,100 --> 01:18:28,601
common survey that looters andKill off

740
01:18:35,100 --> 01:18:36,100
all landmasses. My understanding is the

741
01:18:36,100 --> 01:18:37,100
proposal would fill some wetlands but

742
01:18:37,100 --> 01:18:38,100
that they are to be replaced at a 1 1/2

743
01:18:38,100 --> 01:18:40,100
to 1 ratio, so there'll actually be

744
01:18:40,100 --> 01:18:41,100
more wetlands that exist now in terms

745
01:18:41,100 --> 01:18:45,100
of acreage and they would be all

746
01:18:45,100 --> 01:18:46,100
concentrated into what I consider as a

747
01:18:46,100 --> 01:18:49,100
wetlands expert very high quality

748
01:18:49,100 --> 01:18:52,601
wetlands complex in the Western thirdOf

749
01:18:57,100 --> 01:18:58,100
the developable area and furthermore,

750
01:18:58,100 --> 01:18:59,100
along Heller Road in McKinleyville

751
01:18:59,100 --> 01:19:00,100
Avenue, this being ditches that have a

752
01:19:00,100 --> 01:19:03,601
live streamRunning unit year round down

753
01:19:06,100 --> 01:19:07,100
to the railroad in McKinleyville Avenue

754
01:19:07,100 --> 01:19:08,100
which makes its way out to Hiller Park,

755
01:19:08,100 --> 01:19:12,201
Etc.The proposal is to actually pull

756
01:19:16,100 --> 01:19:17,100
that stream out of the ditches and run

757
01:19:17,100 --> 01:19:20,601
it through the wetlands complex which

758
01:19:27,100 --> 01:19:28,100
also has tremendous value to that

759
01:19:28,100 --> 01:19:29,100
complex in terms of habitat value,

760
01:19:29,100 --> 01:19:30,100
functionality, and all that. That also

761
01:19:30,100 --> 01:19:33,100
would provide an opportunityTo fill

762
01:19:34,100 --> 01:19:35,100
that existing ditch, the drain should

763
01:19:35,100 --> 01:19:36,100
be rerouted through the complex and by

764
01:19:36,100 --> 01:19:39,100
filling that ditch, curbs, gutters,

765
01:19:43,100 --> 01:19:44,100
sidewalks could be added to

766
01:19:44,100 --> 01:19:45,100
McKinleyville Avenue to complete what

767
01:19:45,100 --> 01:19:46,100
is the only missing section of the

768
01:19:46,100 --> 01:19:49,100
sidewalk on McKinleyville Avenue. So

769
01:19:50,100 --> 01:19:51,100
That also seems to be very positive

770
01:19:51,100 --> 01:19:53,100
aspectJust to clarify.

771
01:19:55,100 --> 01:19:57,100
>>That is true.

772
01:20:00,100 --> 01:20:01,100
>>Thank you very much.

773
01:20:01,100 --> 01:20:04,601
Before we go to supervisor Bohn

774
01:20:08,100 --> 01:20:12,801
>>You heard it on recording. I want to

775
01:20:16,100 --> 01:20:17,100
remind people on Zoom we are going to

776
01:20:17,100 --> 01:20:18,100
be going to public comment and that the

777
01:20:18,100 --> 01:20:19,100
zoom as you are listening is a little

778
01:20:19,100 --> 01:20:20,100
bit delayed, solicited to your device

779
01:20:20,100 --> 01:20:21,100
which would be her phone for the prompt

780
01:20:21,100 --> 01:20:25,100
from KayleeToI meet you, do not listen

781
01:20:25,100 --> 01:20:29,201
to your TVOr wherever you are streaming

782
01:20:33,100 --> 01:20:34,100
it, please turn that off, we are going

783
01:20:34,100 --> 01:20:35,100
to go to supervisor bold for a

784
01:20:35,100 --> 01:20:36,100
clarifying question to Director Ford.

785
01:20:36,100 --> 01:20:40,201
>>I will never beAn expert on anything,

786
01:20:41,100 --> 01:20:44,601
it's obvious.Baseball. Actually I was

787
01:20:45,100 --> 01:20:47,100
on the committee to build Hiller Park

788
01:20:47,100 --> 01:20:51,201
For five years, and that's been opened

789
01:20:53,100 --> 01:20:54,100
how many years, very successful, I

790
01:20:54,100 --> 01:20:55,100
remember that's with the town center

791
01:20:55,100 --> 01:20:57,100
startedIs when they sold the property

792
01:20:57,100 --> 01:21:00,100
from the old McKinleyville ParkAnd

793
01:21:00,100 --> 01:21:04,201
grandma Sullivan, sorry.I saw part fees,

794
01:21:17,100 --> 01:21:18,100
Is that going to be per unit?

795
01:21:18,100 --> 01:21:19,100
>>Yes.

796
01:21:19,100 --> 01:21:20,100
>>That will be quite substantial.

797
01:21:20,100 --> 01:21:21,100
>>Yes.

798
01:21:21,100 --> 01:21:25,201
The noise mitigation,We are saying 2 dB

799
01:21:29,100 --> 01:21:30,100
is it very much, but a lot of cannabis,

800
01:21:30,100 --> 01:21:31,100
a lot of everything else, one decibel

801
01:21:31,100 --> 01:21:32,100
was the end of the world.

802
01:21:32,100 --> 01:21:33,100
>>That's why significance.

803
01:21:33,100 --> 01:21:36,601
>>We usually use significant impacts as

804
01:21:42,100 --> 01:21:46,100
a weapon. We are not using them that

805
01:21:46,100 --> 01:21:47,100
way this time. I'm not against the life

806
01:21:47,100 --> 01:21:52,100
plan of Humboldt.I do like it could be

807
01:21:52,100 --> 01:21:53,100
22 in use, but I did notice that at the

808
01:21:53,100 --> 01:21:56,100
end, another developerIs actually going

809
01:21:57,100 --> 01:22:00,601
to put 60 unitsOf workforce are low

810
01:22:01,100 --> 01:22:05,201
income housing, is that the way I

811
01:22:06,100 --> 01:22:07,100
understand it?

812
01:22:07,100 --> 01:22:09,100
>>43 units of workforce housing, yes.

813
01:22:09,100 --> 01:22:10,100
>>Okay. I know this is been going on

814
01:22:10,100 --> 01:22:12,100
for a while, I will bring it out, the

815
01:22:12,100 --> 01:22:15,100
McKayTractor bike tracks and everything

816
01:22:22,100 --> 01:22:23,100
else, that's 325 units, they started

817
01:22:23,100 --> 01:22:25,100
out as 327 family homes is down 100 and

818
01:22:25,100 --> 01:22:27,100
quarter.

819
01:22:41,100 --> 01:22:42,100
Putting it in realistic compared to

820
01:22:42,100 --> 01:22:43,100
Caltrans is the Heller Road interchange

821
01:22:43,100 --> 01:22:44,100
a possibility considering there is

822
01:22:44,100 --> 01:22:45,100
alreadyA pretty good significant amount

823
01:22:45,100 --> 01:22:48,601
of interchanges already, It looks like

824
01:22:49,100 --> 01:22:50,100
it's pretty narrow to put one in there

825
01:22:50,100 --> 01:22:53,100
without a lot of, I think it takes out

826
01:22:53,100 --> 01:22:55,100
a soccer field.

827
01:23:00,100 --> 01:23:01,100
>>I don't know that they are looking at

828
01:23:01,100 --> 01:23:02,100
the north side, I think it's only North

829
01:23:02,100 --> 01:23:03,100
offIn South on.

830
01:23:03,100 --> 01:23:05,100
>>Okay.

831
01:23:06,100 --> 01:23:07,100
>>I can't comment on what the

832
01:23:07,100 --> 01:23:09,100
likelihood of it is. It's still in the

833
01:23:09,100 --> 01:23:12,100
beginningPhases of discussion, I think

834
01:23:12,100 --> 01:23:14,100
there's

835
01:23:17,100 --> 01:23:18,100
>>Did they roll their eyes or clap

836
01:23:18,100 --> 01:23:21,601
their hands? I'm just wondering.Anyway,

837
01:23:23,100 --> 01:23:24,100
I don't know how possible it is.

838
01:23:24,100 --> 01:23:28,801
Obviously I am not an expert.And then

839
01:23:33,100 --> 01:23:34,100
are we commenting on the road?

840
01:23:34,100 --> 01:23:35,100
>>Sure.

841
01:23:35,100 --> 01:23:36,100
>>I would go to public comment, because

842
01:23:36,100 --> 01:23:40,201
I've got so many off-line phone calls.

843
01:23:41,100 --> 01:23:42,100
I spent a lot of time in McKinleyville

844
01:23:42,100 --> 01:23:43,100
and have a lot of friends up there and

845
01:23:43,100 --> 01:23:44,100
I've talked to a lot of the businesses

846
01:23:44,100 --> 01:23:48,801
The green section where the case may be

847
01:23:52,100 --> 01:23:53,100
, The business community doesn't seem

848
01:23:53,100 --> 01:23:57,801
to be relishing it quite as much.Time

849
01:24:00,100 --> 01:24:01,100
flies now, but it hasn't been that long

850
01:24:01,100 --> 01:24:02,100
ago, I remember the green pavement,

851
01:24:02,100 --> 01:24:03,100
that was the first place we useRead

852
01:24:03,100 --> 01:24:04,100
pavement that doesn't seem that long ago

853
01:24:04,100 --> 01:24:08,801
, And a lot of theLogic, in my terms,

854
01:24:10,100 --> 01:24:14,201
I've been here 71 years, product by an

855
01:24:24,100 --> 01:24:25,100
Lot of input into the traffic. Do we

856
01:24:25,100 --> 01:24:26,100
have a full-blown traffic study on

857
01:24:26,100 --> 01:24:27,100
this? I think the planning commission

858
01:24:27,100 --> 01:24:28,100
suggested that we have a full-blown

859
01:24:28,100 --> 01:24:29,100
traffic study.

860
01:24:29,100 --> 01:24:30,100
>>Yes, we do.

861
01:24:30,100 --> 01:24:31,100
>>Okay, so the planning commission was

862
01:24:31,100 --> 01:24:34,100
asking for something we already had?

863
01:24:34,100 --> 01:24:36,100
>>I am not sure how much there were. In

864
01:24:36,100 --> 01:24:37,100
fairness

865
01:24:37,100 --> 01:24:42,401
>>I would hope they would be aware of a

866
01:24:43,100 --> 01:24:44,100
lot of it.

867
01:24:44,100 --> 01:24:48,100
>>The Micmac, want to be fair here. The

868
01:24:48,100 --> 01:24:49,100
Micmac recognized that the operational

869
01:24:49,100 --> 01:24:52,100
analysisWould not be part of the CEQA

870
01:24:52,100 --> 01:24:55,100
analysis.But before they were willing

871
01:24:55,100 --> 01:24:58,100
to make a recommendationOn the overall

872
01:24:58,100 --> 01:25:01,100
town center, They wanted to know what

873
01:25:01,100 --> 01:25:06,100
the impacts of the road were. So we did

874
01:25:06,100 --> 01:25:11,100
that as part of the EIR.And so we

875
01:25:11,100 --> 01:25:12,100
provided it, they reviewed that, the

876
01:25:12,100 --> 01:25:14,100
little table I put up thereIs a table

877
01:25:14,100 --> 01:25:16,100
of the summary of the impacts on the

878
01:25:16,100 --> 01:25:19,100
intersectionsAndSo for the project area

879
01:25:23,100 --> 01:25:25,100
intersections, that's absolutely

880
01:25:30,100 --> 01:25:31,100
(INAUDIBLE). I think what they're

881
01:25:31,100 --> 01:25:32,100
looking for and interpreting some of

882
01:25:32,100 --> 01:25:33,100
the comments that were made in the

883
01:25:33,100 --> 01:25:34,100
planning commission is moreOf a

884
01:25:34,100 --> 01:25:36,100
systemic McKinleyville wide approach to

885
01:25:36,100 --> 01:25:40,201
traffic.And that wasn't the purpose of

886
01:25:42,100 --> 01:25:46,801
that study, But I'm not sure that you

887
01:25:47,100 --> 01:25:50,601
do something like thatUnless you are

888
01:25:51,100 --> 01:25:52,100
thinking traffic fees.

889
01:25:52,100 --> 01:25:56,801
>>Okay,And this doesn't mean to be any

890
01:25:58,100 --> 01:25:59,100
detriment to anything else, but we did

891
01:25:59,100 --> 01:26:01,100
a big bicycle lane or whatever on a

892
01:26:01,100 --> 01:26:04,100
Chennai Street, Which was a pretty

893
01:26:04,100 --> 01:26:06,100
major aspect, And I don't know what the

894
01:26:06,100 --> 01:26:10,801
results are.But I live in cotton, I

895
01:26:11,100 --> 01:26:15,801
travel that 2 to 3 times a day, And I

896
01:26:23,100 --> 01:26:24,100
have counted a total of 17 bikes. This

897
01:26:24,100 --> 01:26:25,100
is just me what I drive it, I keep

898
01:26:25,100 --> 01:26:26,100
track of my pickup, 17 bytes total, 11

899
01:26:26,100 --> 01:26:29,100
on the sidewalksIn J Street still gets

900
01:26:29,100 --> 01:26:30,100
a lot more traffic because everybody

901
01:26:30,100 --> 01:26:35,100
tells me why would you go down H and I

902
01:26:35,100 --> 01:26:36,100
when you can have J Street with wide

903
01:26:36,100 --> 01:26:37,100
lanes? I don't know if we can consider

904
01:26:37,100 --> 01:26:41,801
that a success.I don't see the success

905
01:26:47,100 --> 01:26:48,100
on one side, my issue is I am afraid

906
01:26:48,100 --> 01:26:49,100
for their restaurants and residents

907
01:26:49,100 --> 01:26:50,100
that are going to have another

908
01:26:50,100 --> 01:26:53,100
experiment that at the end goes, well,

909
01:26:53,100 --> 01:26:54,100
that doesn't work.

910
01:26:54,100 --> 01:26:55,100
>>I'm sorry, do you have a clarifying

911
01:26:55,100 --> 01:26:59,201
questionOr can we go to public comment

912
01:27:03,100 --> 01:27:04,100
and come back?

913
01:27:04,100 --> 01:27:05,100
>>Yes, I do. Do you think this is the

914
01:27:05,100 --> 01:27:06,100
best popular route, the road diet,

915
01:27:06,100 --> 01:27:07,100
there's a lot of speculation?

916
01:27:07,100 --> 01:27:12,401
>>SoIn short, I will say I think this is

917
01:27:14,100 --> 01:27:15,100
Then give it a lot of thought, I think

918
01:27:15,100 --> 01:27:16,100
that it has tremendous upside for the

919
01:27:16,100 --> 01:27:20,201
community.I've been a planner for more

920
01:27:22,100 --> 01:27:25,601
years that I feel comfortable sayingAnd

921
01:27:26,100 --> 01:27:27,100
As long as I have been a planner, This

922
01:27:27,100 --> 01:27:31,100
is been a discussionIn terms of moving

923
01:27:31,100 --> 01:27:33,401
away from the traditionalFour-lane

924
01:27:36,100 --> 01:27:37,100
high-speed arterial to slowing traffic

925
01:27:37,100 --> 01:27:40,601
downIn creating a more pedestrian scale

926
01:27:45,100 --> 01:27:46,100
For business and people who lived

927
01:27:46,100 --> 01:27:47,100
there. The communities that have done

928
01:27:47,100 --> 01:27:50,100
thatHave found their businesses are

929
01:27:51,100 --> 01:27:53,401
actually more successfulBecause people

930
01:28:02,100 --> 01:28:03,100
are just driving through very fast,

931
01:28:03,100 --> 01:28:04,100
they are now going there, they are

932
01:28:04,100 --> 01:28:05,100
stopping, they are staying, while they

933
01:28:05,100 --> 01:28:06,100
are staying, they are spending money.

934
01:28:06,100 --> 01:28:07,100
So many communities are making that

935
01:28:07,100 --> 01:28:10,100
switch.And so this is something to try

936
01:28:10,100 --> 01:28:13,100
to get aheadOf a town that has really

937
01:28:13,100 --> 01:28:17,801
grown upStarted this may be a wide spot

938
01:28:21,100 --> 01:28:24,100
in the road, and now wants to see a

939
01:28:24,100 --> 01:28:28,100
town center. So how do you begin to

940
01:28:28,100 --> 01:28:31,601
create a placeThat is an attraction

941
01:28:39,100 --> 01:28:40,100
point, that people want to come and

942
01:28:40,100 --> 01:28:41,100
be.

943
01:28:41,100 --> 01:28:42,100
>>With these improvements of the town

944
01:28:42,100 --> 01:28:44,100
center, I have one other question like

945
01:28:44,100 --> 01:28:47,100
this, with the video littleFinancial

946
01:28:48,100 --> 01:28:51,601
involvement like we ask of other

947
01:28:59,100 --> 01:29:00,100
Developments all the way through to

948
01:29:00,100 --> 01:29:01,100
even wedding venues we want them to

949
01:29:01,100 --> 01:29:02,100
make all the improvements to the road?

950
01:29:02,100 --> 01:29:03,100
Is there going to be due financial

951
01:29:03,100 --> 01:29:04,100
investment in there? The only other

952
01:29:04,100 --> 01:29:08,801
thing I ask is54 years ago, I remember

953
01:29:10,100 --> 01:29:14,100
With Callan ready to go horseback riding

954
01:29:14,100 --> 01:29:15,100
. I was like, I ride horses all the

955
01:29:15,100 --> 01:29:19,201
time. I lied. I remember running full

956
01:29:21,100 --> 01:29:22,100
blast hanging down the middle of

957
01:29:22,100 --> 01:29:23,100
Central Avenue, we just gone by the

958
01:29:23,100 --> 01:29:27,201
side that I was praying to God

959
01:29:28,100 --> 01:29:29,100
(INAUDIBLE), but is there still an

960
01:29:29,100 --> 01:29:30,100
equestrian trail to the east of central

961
01:29:30,100 --> 01:29:33,100
thatThis 20 foot wideThat would be

962
01:29:35,100 --> 01:29:36,100
accessible to use completely separate

963
01:29:36,100 --> 01:29:38,100
trafficAnd then the people use the

964
01:29:38,100 --> 01:29:41,100
arterials to come onAnd I don't know, I

965
01:29:41,100 --> 01:29:44,100
have been on it but like I said, that

966
01:29:44,100 --> 01:29:45,100
was a long time ago.

967
01:29:45,100 --> 01:29:49,201
>>Not aware of that, I'm going to

968
01:29:53,100 --> 01:29:54,100
address that first and then get back to

969
01:29:54,100 --> 01:29:55,100
your question on finances. I know there

970
01:29:55,100 --> 01:29:58,100
is still a bridal trail, crushed granite

971
01:29:58,100 --> 01:30:01,100
On the sidewalk that goes up central.I

972
01:30:01,100 --> 01:30:05,801
have seen one horse on itIt all the

973
01:30:06,100 --> 01:30:09,601
time I've been in McKinleyville.In

974
01:30:10,100 --> 01:30:13,100
fairness, I am a resident there.

975
01:30:13,100 --> 01:30:14,100
>>It should have been there 54 years

976
01:30:14,100 --> 01:30:16,100
ago.

977
01:30:16,100 --> 01:30:19,601
>>In terms of the finances,The

978
01:30:20,100 --> 01:30:22,100
Towncenter ordinance was very clearThat

979
01:30:22,100 --> 01:30:25,601
DevelopmentOf Central Avenue is not the

980
01:30:26,100 --> 01:30:28,401
responsibilityOf the property owners

981
01:30:32,100 --> 01:30:33,100
along Central Avenue. It needs to be

982
01:30:33,100 --> 01:30:35,401
done with alternative financing.

983
01:30:40,100 --> 01:30:41,100
>>Thanks, John.

984
01:30:41,100 --> 01:30:42,100
>>So there are plenty of seats, I see

985
01:30:42,100 --> 01:30:43,100
openIf people standing want to take a

986
01:30:43,100 --> 01:30:46,601
seats, you're welcome to stand, just

987
01:30:54,100 --> 01:30:55,100
want to remind everybody that you can

988
01:30:55,100 --> 01:30:56,100
probably be a long day of public

989
01:30:56,100 --> 01:30:57,100
comment, so if you feel comfortable

990
01:30:57,100 --> 01:30:58,100
trying to find a seat, that would be

991
01:30:58,100 --> 01:30:59,100
okayAnd then we have a couple more

992
01:30:59,100 --> 01:31:00,100
clarifying questions for board members

993
01:31:00,100 --> 01:31:04,201
and we will go to supervisor WilsonAnd

994
01:31:05,100 --> 01:31:06,100
then to supervisor Madrone, want to

995
01:31:06,100 --> 01:31:10,201
remind zoom again that that would be,

996
01:31:16,100 --> 01:31:17,100
public comment will come to zoom first

997
01:31:17,100 --> 01:31:18,100
and they will have folks line up in the

998
01:31:18,100 --> 01:31:19,100
room to make their public comment here

999
01:31:19,100 --> 01:31:20,100
in the room. Supervisor Wilson,

1000
01:31:20,100 --> 01:31:21,100
clarifying only, please.

1001
01:31:21,100 --> 01:31:25,100
>>This has to beWith the question from

1002
01:31:25,100 --> 01:31:26,100
supervisor Madrone around the Haas

1003
01:31:26,100 --> 01:31:29,100
housing density. This reduction in, if

1004
01:31:29,100 --> 01:31:32,100
there's overall reductionI was just

1005
01:31:33,100 --> 01:31:36,100
wondering if how that impactsOur arena

1006
01:31:36,100 --> 01:31:39,601
and analysis? For anyone who doesn't

1007
01:31:46,100 --> 01:31:47,100
know, that's regional housing needs

1008
01:31:47,100 --> 01:31:48,100
allocations.

1009
01:31:48,100 --> 01:31:49,100
>>Thank you for asking that, that was

1010
01:31:49,100 --> 01:31:52,100
something we struggled with becauseWe

1011
01:31:52,100 --> 01:31:53,100
were not allowed to take away the

1012
01:31:53,100 --> 01:31:56,601
potential to build houses.What the

1013
01:31:58,100 --> 01:31:59,100
justification given is is that by doing

1014
01:31:59,100 --> 01:32:02,100
this on a comprehensive scaleIn

1015
01:32:03,100 --> 01:32:04,100
addressing the whole area and

1016
01:32:04,100 --> 01:32:05,100
addressing it with an environmental

1017
01:32:05,100 --> 01:32:06,100
analysis,It actually makes development

1018
01:32:06,100 --> 01:32:09,100
and housing easier, So all the

1019
01:32:09,100 --> 01:32:12,100
potential is to hire, the actual

1020
01:32:12,100 --> 01:32:16,201
ability is lowerFor people to come in

1021
01:32:17,100 --> 01:32:18,100
to do it because they don't have a plan

1022
01:32:18,100 --> 01:32:20,100
or an IRAnd they don't have a path

1023
01:32:20,100 --> 01:32:22,100
forward.

1024
01:32:22,100 --> 01:32:25,100
>>Just clarifying,Thinks that's a

1025
01:32:34,100 --> 01:32:35,100
reasonable analysis?

1026
01:32:35,100 --> 01:32:36,100
>>We haven't been challenged on that.

1027
01:32:36,100 --> 01:32:39,100
>>Okay, were great, thank you.

1028
01:32:48,100 --> 01:32:49,100
>>Supervisor Madrone?

1029
01:32:49,100 --> 01:32:50,100
>>Thank you, chair. So the Hiller Road

1030
01:32:50,100 --> 01:32:51,100
clarification, was contracted "contacted

1031
01:32:51,100 --> 01:32:52,100
by Caltrans because they are preparing

1032
01:32:52,100 --> 01:32:53,100
to do some retrofit work on pillars

1033
01:32:53,100 --> 01:32:56,100
over past over Highway 102 "OverpassOn

1034
01:32:59,100 --> 01:33:00,100
Highway 101. It dawned on me that if we

1035
01:33:00,100 --> 01:33:02,100
could have a southbound on-ramp and

1036
01:33:02,100 --> 01:33:05,100
northbound offramp at Hiller Road it

1037
01:33:05,100 --> 01:33:06,100
would be a game changer for

1038
01:33:06,100 --> 01:33:09,100
McKinleyville to have that accessRight

1039
01:33:11,100 --> 01:33:12,100
there in the middle of the community

1040
01:33:12,100 --> 01:33:13,100
and directly off filler where the town

1041
01:33:13,100 --> 01:33:15,100
center is proposed to be built. So in

1042
01:33:15,100 --> 01:33:18,100
that retrofit consideration we brought

1043
01:33:18,100 --> 01:33:21,100
the counter is and Tom Manson, public

1044
01:33:21,100 --> 01:33:25,201
works church was there as well as

1045
01:33:28,100 --> 01:33:29,100
Representatives from the CST, it has a

1046
01:33:29,100 --> 01:33:31,100
pipeline day off that bridge crossing

1047
01:33:31,100 --> 01:33:35,201
over and this is a measureThere would

1048
01:33:39,100 --> 01:33:40,100
be no impact to the pipeline, which was

1049
01:33:40,100 --> 01:33:41,100
good to hear. Caltrans was extremely

1050
01:33:41,100 --> 01:33:44,100
excited, the staff there sentWow,

1051
01:33:49,100 --> 01:33:50,100
that's a great idea. The reason there

1052
01:33:50,100 --> 01:33:51,100
aren't ramps right there is because

1053
01:33:51,100 --> 01:33:52,100
it's too close to the school Road

1054
01:33:52,100 --> 01:33:53,100
interchange in terms of there has to be

1055
01:33:53,100 --> 01:33:54,100
a one-mile separationIn terms of design

1056
01:33:54,100 --> 01:33:57,601
parameters for Caltrans, but just like

1057
01:34:09,100 --> 01:34:10,100
for the true that her injury is repose

1058
01:34:10,100 --> 01:34:11,100
and change of to Trinidad which is way

1059
01:34:11,100 --> 01:34:12,100
closer than one while to the Trinidad

1060
01:34:12,100 --> 01:34:13,100
interchange, Heller could get an

1061
01:34:13,100 --> 01:34:14,100
exemption just like the one in Trinidad

1062
01:34:14,100 --> 01:34:15,100
and so they are adding to their listTo

1063
01:34:15,100 --> 01:34:16,100
consider look atDesign parameters, flow

1064
01:34:16,100 --> 01:34:19,601
servers, second editionAnd so I wanted

1065
01:34:27,100 --> 01:34:28,100
to share with the community Caltrans

1066
01:34:28,100 --> 01:34:29,100
thought that was a very good suggestion

1067
01:34:29,100 --> 01:34:30,100
and it would be doable just like the

1068
01:34:30,100 --> 01:34:33,100
interchange and Trinidad has become

1069
01:34:35,100 --> 01:34:36,100
doable. I wanted to clarify that,

1070
01:34:36,100 --> 01:34:37,100
because again having that on an offer

1071
01:34:37,100 --> 01:34:40,100
of right there in the middle of the town

1072
01:34:40,100 --> 01:34:41,100
could be incredible and it can be done

1073
01:34:41,100 --> 01:34:42,100
without taking the land. Would be a

1074
01:34:42,100 --> 01:34:44,100
little moreExpensive to do a bridge

1075
01:34:44,100 --> 01:34:48,201
like on-ramp and offramp. But it is

1076
01:34:56,100 --> 01:34:57,100
total wolf "toady "totally feasible

1077
01:34:57,100 --> 01:34:58,100
without taking private property. That

1078
01:34:58,100 --> 01:34:59,100
was important to me and I wanted to

1079
01:34:59,100 --> 01:35:00,100
share that that is the discussion that

1080
01:35:00,100 --> 01:35:02,401
we had. Thank you.

1081
01:35:04,100 --> 01:35:05,100
>>Supervisor Bohn?

1082
01:35:05,100 --> 01:35:06,100
>>I agree with them, that would be the

1083
01:35:06,100 --> 01:35:10,201
extreme game changer. Maybe it's as we

1084
01:35:16,100 --> 01:35:17,100
are looking at this with you should get

1085
01:35:17,100 --> 01:35:18,100
more of a commitment from Caltrans to

1086
01:35:18,100 --> 01:35:19,100
be actually doing this, because they

1087
01:35:19,100 --> 01:35:20,100
are looking at around about and eight

1088
01:35:20,100 --> 01:35:21,100
elk River, I like a lot of things but

1089
01:35:21,100 --> 01:35:23,401
actuallyActually instituting the team

1090
01:35:25,100 --> 01:35:30,100
is an action is, in the near road "if

1091
01:35:30,100 --> 01:35:34,201
Heller Road does get those off, and

1092
01:35:42,100 --> 01:35:43,100
does make a big difference and maybe we

1093
01:35:43,100 --> 01:35:44,100
don't need the road diet and all it

1094
01:35:44,100 --> 01:35:45,100
would be amazing if we did them both

1095
01:35:45,100 --> 01:35:46,100
and realize wide we do that, it's a

1096
01:35:46,100 --> 01:35:47,100
bigger problem? I agree and thanks for

1097
01:35:47,100 --> 01:35:48,100
that information.

1098
01:35:48,100 --> 01:35:52,100
>>So I also, John, Tom is here, Our

1099
01:35:52,100 --> 01:35:53,100
director for public works, I didn't

1100
01:35:53,100 --> 01:35:56,601
know if theApplied to add anything??

1101
01:36:05,100 --> 01:36:06,100
Good morning, Tom.

1102
01:36:06,100 --> 01:36:07,100
>>And warning. So I looked at this in

1103
01:36:07,100 --> 01:36:09,401
detail andThe suggested traffic

1104
01:36:13,100 --> 01:36:14,100
improvements need to be done if you're

1105
01:36:14,100 --> 01:36:18,100
going to do the road dietAnd the one

1106
01:36:18,100 --> 01:36:19,100
thing that was brought up is the Hiller

1107
01:36:19,100 --> 01:36:20,100
interchange, but it's generally

1108
01:36:20,100 --> 01:36:22,401
interchangesIn the communities that

1109
01:36:29,100 --> 01:36:30,100
become the property or the

1110
01:36:30,100 --> 01:36:31,100
responsibility of the local agency to

1111
01:36:31,100 --> 01:36:32,100
move through the system at Caltrans

1112
01:36:32,100 --> 01:36:33,100
comes in later, so that would be

1113
01:36:33,100 --> 01:36:37,201
something that we wouldIf the board so

1114
01:36:42,100 --> 01:36:43,100
chose we would have to go probably

1115
01:36:43,100 --> 01:36:44,100
through age, can get some funding to do

1116
01:36:44,100 --> 01:36:45,100
the studies. Caltrans did commit that

1117
01:36:45,100 --> 01:36:48,601
whatever work they do nowWill not

1118
01:36:50,100 --> 01:36:51,100
preclude the on and off ramp, so that's

1119
01:36:51,100 --> 01:36:52,100
as far as they have got on the study

1120
01:36:52,100 --> 01:36:56,201
but as you probably see, Fortune is

1121
01:37:05,100 --> 01:37:06,100
moving ahead with their interchange

1122
01:37:06,100 --> 01:37:07,100
projects of the Caltrans Highway,

1123
01:37:07,100 --> 01:37:08,100
Arcata is moving ahead with two of

1124
01:37:08,100 --> 01:37:09,100
theirs, to rancheria is moving ahead in

1125
01:37:09,100 --> 01:37:10,100
this day and age Caltrans doesn't do

1126
01:37:10,100 --> 01:37:14,801
that kind of work anymore in the local

1127
01:37:15,100 --> 01:37:16,100
agencies. It's generally the local

1128
01:37:16,100 --> 01:37:17,100
agency that does that so just a word of

1129
01:37:17,100 --> 01:37:18,100
caution on that, that is a game

1130
01:37:18,100 --> 01:37:19,100
changer, I believe, we haven't done the

1131
01:37:19,100 --> 01:37:20,100
traffic study, but that would make a

1132
01:37:20,100 --> 01:37:21,100
very big change in the trafficAnd might

1133
01:37:21,100 --> 01:37:24,601
even mitigate some of the other

1134
01:37:33,100 --> 01:37:34,100
Recommendations that have come up if

1135
01:37:34,100 --> 01:37:35,100
you go with the road diet. That's what

1136
01:37:35,100 --> 01:37:36,100
I have to add. Thank you.

1137
01:37:36,100 --> 01:37:39,100
Thank you, Tom. Supervisor Arroyo?

1138
01:37:51,100 --> 01:37:52,100
>>We have had the half mile section of

1139
01:37:52,100 --> 01:37:53,100
Central Avenue that we are talking

1140
01:37:53,100 --> 01:37:54,100
about today.

1141
01:37:54,100 --> 01:37:55,100
>>We did Central McKinleyville killer

1142
01:37:55,100 --> 01:37:56,100
railroad, Murray.

1143
01:37:56,100 --> 01:37:58,100
>>Thank you.

1144
01:38:02,100 --> 01:38:03,100
>>Thank you, that's what I wanted to

1145
01:38:03,100 --> 01:38:05,100
clarify, thanks.

1146
01:38:08,100 --> 01:38:09,100
>>I have one clarifying question. You

1147
01:38:09,100 --> 01:38:10,100
know most of the opposition I have seen

1148
01:38:10,100 --> 01:38:12,100
is around the road diet. OppositionAnd

1149
01:38:12,100 --> 01:38:17,401
for is around the road diet,If it is

1150
01:38:23,100 --> 01:38:24,100
excluded what does that do to the

1151
01:38:24,100 --> 01:38:25,100
project?

1152
01:38:25,100 --> 01:38:29,201
>>I think from the standpoint ofMost of

1153
01:38:30,100 --> 01:38:34,100
what's propose it does not have a big

1154
01:38:34,100 --> 01:38:37,100
Change. We think the things that it

1155
01:38:37,100 --> 01:38:40,601
does doIs that there's the opportunity

1156
01:38:43,100 --> 01:38:44,100
here, and this is one of the things

1157
01:38:44,100 --> 01:38:47,601
that the Micmac struggled with, the

1158
01:38:48,100 --> 01:38:52,801
idea of place making,Want to have entity

1159
01:38:53,100 --> 01:38:57,201
For the center "and identity. You want

1160
01:39:04,100 --> 01:39:05,100
to have it be two-part or one, part of

1161
01:39:05,100 --> 01:39:06,100
the desire was to create a better

1162
01:39:06,100 --> 01:39:07,100
connection between the east and west

1163
01:39:07,100 --> 01:39:09,100
side of Central to narrow that down a

1164
01:39:09,100 --> 01:39:10,100
little bit, making pedestrian crossing

1165
01:39:10,100 --> 01:39:12,100
will saferBut those are policies out of

1166
01:39:12,100 --> 01:39:16,801
the community plan as well.Or do you

1167
01:39:17,100 --> 01:39:20,601
want to haveIn arterial running through

1168
01:39:26,100 --> 01:39:27,100
the middle of what's the town center?

1169
01:39:27,100 --> 01:39:28,100
And then if you have that, then you

1170
01:39:28,100 --> 01:39:29,100
really continue with the form-based

1171
01:39:29,100 --> 01:39:34,401
code on the town center and what we end

1172
01:39:35,100 --> 01:39:36,100
up happening is people aren't as likely

1173
01:39:36,100 --> 01:39:37,100
to reinvest in those propertiesThat are

1174
01:39:37,100 --> 01:39:39,100
all central.

1175
01:39:41,100 --> 01:39:42,100
>>Okay. So we are going to go to public

1176
01:39:42,100 --> 01:39:44,100
commentRight before I have a question

1177
01:39:44,100 --> 01:39:47,100
for you, soAs an opportunity for an

1178
01:39:47,100 --> 01:39:50,100
applicant, applicants to speak, and

1179
01:39:55,100 --> 01:39:56,100
where would you like that process to

1180
01:39:56,100 --> 01:39:57,100
happen?

1181
01:39:57,100 --> 01:39:58,100
>>I think the applicant in this case is

1182
01:39:58,100 --> 01:39:59,100
the county.

1183
01:39:59,100 --> 01:40:00,100
>>Okay.

1184
01:40:00,100 --> 01:40:01,100
There are property owners, but I would

1185
01:40:01,100 --> 01:40:04,100
Recommend that you give everybodyAn

1186
01:40:05,100 --> 01:40:09,201
equal amount of timeAnd if you wantTo

1187
01:40:11,100 --> 01:40:12,100
ask property owners particular questions

1188
01:40:12,100 --> 01:40:14,100
, that can be done.

1189
01:40:14,100 --> 01:40:18,201
>>So the boardCan come back to ask

1190
01:40:19,100 --> 01:40:20,100
clarifying questions of any public

1191
01:40:20,100 --> 01:40:23,100
speaker. That will happen at the

1192
01:40:23,100 --> 01:40:27,201
conclusion of public comment. So if one

1193
01:40:28,100 --> 01:40:29,100
of the board members wants to bring

1194
01:40:29,100 --> 01:40:32,100
some wood backup to the podium or on

1195
01:40:32,100 --> 01:40:35,100
Zoom, that is going to be allowable

1196
01:40:35,100 --> 01:40:38,601
actionFrom this board. To start with

1197
01:40:40,100 --> 01:40:44,201
public comment, if the board is done,

1198
01:40:46,100 --> 01:40:47,100
Is the board done, I have any work

1199
01:40:47,100 --> 01:40:48,100
clarifying questions? Okay. So we are

1200
01:40:48,100 --> 01:40:49,100
going to start, I ask that you back up

1201
01:40:49,100 --> 01:40:51,401
just a little bit

1202
01:40:52,100 --> 01:40:54,100
[LAUGHING]

1203
01:41:01,100 --> 01:41:02,100
It's okay, we're going to go to Zoom

1204
01:41:02,100 --> 01:41:03,100
first, and then will come to the

1205
01:41:03,100 --> 01:41:04,100
podium, so we are going to start,

1206
01:41:04,100 --> 01:41:05,100
Kaylee is going to manage our due

1207
01:41:05,100 --> 01:41:06,100
process,So I will start with Kaylee.

1208
01:41:06,100 --> 01:41:09,601
>>Thank you, share. Caller 7718, I will

1209
01:41:10,100 --> 01:41:11,100
unmute you and you will have two

1210
01:41:11,100 --> 01:41:13,100
minutes.

1211
01:41:23,100 --> 01:41:24,100
>>I hope you can hear me, it's Kent

1212
01:41:24,100 --> 01:41:26,401
Sawatzky calling from Mexico,

1213
01:41:28,100 --> 01:41:29,100
(INAUDIBLE) taking the time to call

1214
01:41:29,100 --> 01:41:30,100
him. I do not support at this time

1215
01:41:30,100 --> 01:41:33,100
particularlyThe road diet, I hope

1216
01:41:36,100 --> 01:41:38,100
(INAUDIBLE) you're basically putting

1217
01:41:38,100 --> 01:41:42,201
the road died on the roads, Arranging

1218
01:41:43,100 --> 01:41:47,201
old steroids and bulking up.Both of

1219
01:41:48,100 --> 01:41:50,100
those would be a critical mistake.

1220
01:41:50,100 --> 01:41:53,100
McKinleyville and its traffic area,

1221
01:41:54,100 --> 01:41:57,100
it's kind of all the advantage of shock

1222
01:41:57,100 --> 01:42:01,201
and awe.Four lanesDown the middle lane

1223
01:42:05,100 --> 01:42:09,801
where you can utilize from lane to lane

1224
01:42:13,100 --> 01:42:14,100
. I strongly suggest you move forward

1225
01:42:14,100 --> 01:42:16,100
with the rest of this projectAnd

1226
01:42:16,100 --> 01:42:18,401
(INAUDIBLE) studies(INAUDIBLE) your

1227
01:42:23,100 --> 01:42:24,100
community services District. Thank you

1228
01:42:24,100 --> 01:42:27,100
for my opportunity to speak.

1229
01:42:27,100 --> 01:42:30,601
>>Thank you. Caller 4376, I will unmute

1230
01:42:33,100 --> 01:42:37,201
you, and you will have two minutes.

1231
01:42:44,100 --> 01:42:46,100
>>My name is Kelly Garrett, the

1232
01:42:46,100 --> 01:42:48,401
ordinance represents a developmental

1233
01:42:50,100 --> 01:42:51,100
health and safety in deviations from

1234
01:42:51,100 --> 01:42:55,100
the general plan, They promise a town

1235
01:42:55,100 --> 01:42:58,100
center and delivered something far

1236
01:43:00,100 --> 01:43:01,100
less, no coordinated transportation

1237
01:43:01,100 --> 01:43:04,100
plan, no civic space and noProtection

1238
01:43:04,100 --> 01:43:08,201
of wetlands or the rural character.This

1239
01:43:10,100 --> 01:43:11,100
It begins and ends with transparency,

1240
01:43:11,100 --> 01:43:14,100
the Micmac (INAUDIBLE) task force

1241
01:43:14,100 --> 01:43:18,201
public Mohs notice,The public had far

1242
01:43:22,100 --> 01:43:23,100
less than 72 hours to review. Even the

1243
01:43:23,100 --> 01:43:27,100
public records and been months ago to

1244
01:43:27,100 --> 01:43:30,100
Document the policy of unanswered

1245
01:43:34,100 --> 01:43:37,601
Addressing. PEIR was pushed forward by

1246
01:43:47,100 --> 01:43:48,100
the public who had a chance to respond

1247
01:43:48,100 --> 01:43:49,100
and the ordinance was 6.4 required bent

1248
01:43:49,100 --> 01:43:50,100
wetlands built prior to subdivision

1249
01:43:50,100 --> 01:43:51,100
directly cuts the protections of policy

1250
01:43:51,100 --> 01:43:54,601
15 in the community plan while Publix

1251
01:44:01,100 --> 01:44:02,100
Has fixated on the road diet, there is

1252
01:44:02,100 --> 01:44:03,100
a relocation clause without a hearing,

1253
01:44:03,100 --> 01:44:04,100
that's not planning, that's avoiding

1254
01:44:04,100 --> 01:44:05,100
peer can can still be received, I asked

1255
01:44:05,100 --> 01:44:07,100
the boardToRelease the wetland caused

1256
01:44:07,100 --> 01:44:09,401
certified the SBIRFor wetlands

1257
01:44:12,100 --> 01:44:14,401
relocationAnd project development and

1258
01:44:19,100 --> 01:44:22,100
require at least 1 acreOf space of the

1259
01:44:22,100 --> 01:44:24,100
town center actually serves the

1260
01:44:24,100 --> 01:44:26,100
community. Thank you.

1261
01:44:34,100 --> 01:44:35,100
>>Wesley, can I have you kind of curve

1262
01:44:35,100 --> 01:44:36,100
around some people that are outside can

1263
01:44:36,100 --> 01:44:37,100
come in and hear the public comments?

1264
01:44:37,100 --> 01:44:38,100
There you go, thanks so much.Come

1265
01:44:38,100 --> 01:44:39,100
forward so you can hear the public

1266
01:44:39,100 --> 01:44:40,100
comments, that way we are not repeat a

1267
01:44:40,100 --> 01:44:44,100
bunch of stuff.Everybody will have an

1268
01:44:44,100 --> 01:44:47,601
opportunity for public comment, even if

1269
01:44:50,100 --> 01:44:51,100
you are seated and decide you want to,

1270
01:44:51,100 --> 01:44:55,801
you can pop up and come forward. That's

1271
01:44:58,100 --> 01:44:59,100
not a problem, okay? We will continue

1272
01:44:59,100 --> 01:45:00,100
with zoom.

1273
01:45:00,100 --> 01:45:01,100
>>Caller 3386, I will unmute you and

1274
01:45:01,100 --> 01:45:04,100
you will have two minutes.

1275
01:45:20,100 --> 01:45:21,100
>>Hello, this is (INAUDIBLE), I am a

1276
01:45:21,100 --> 01:45:22,100
resident of McKinleyville, I know a few

1277
01:45:22,100 --> 01:45:23,100
of you on board there, I've seen Elise

1278
01:45:23,100 --> 01:45:26,100
a couple of people in the audience

1279
01:45:26,100 --> 01:45:30,201
Online that I know.I am unsure

1280
01:45:31,100 --> 01:45:32,100
actually, I'm pretty much against

1281
01:45:32,100 --> 01:45:35,100
narrowing downCentral Avenue, and I

1282
01:45:37,100 --> 01:45:38,100
would like to know how much

1283
01:45:38,100 --> 01:45:39,100
consideration has been given to

1284
01:45:39,100 --> 01:45:42,100
adjusting trafficIn a wayThat's been

1285
01:45:53,100 --> 01:45:54,100
doing on Central, on Miller, Pickett,

1286
01:45:54,100 --> 01:45:55,100
McKinleyville Avenue, and Railroad

1287
01:45:55,100 --> 01:45:58,100
Drive, creating that spaceWith the

1288
01:45:58,100 --> 01:45:59,100
walkable area rather than Central

1289
01:45:59,100 --> 01:46:02,601
Avenue,. Some considerations need to be

1290
01:46:12,100 --> 01:46:13,100
done to make that a more walkable

1291
01:46:13,100 --> 01:46:15,100
crossover, but I really, I am inferior

1292
01:46:15,100 --> 01:46:18,601
in favor of creating a reallyBuying

1293
01:46:19,100 --> 01:46:23,801
town center area. But I get that taking

1294
01:46:28,100 --> 01:46:29,100
a look at some of these other roads is

1295
01:46:29,100 --> 01:46:31,100
the option create that would be an

1296
01:46:31,100 --> 01:46:34,100
impossible experience.How is added

1297
01:46:44,100 --> 01:46:45,100
traffic and what is that when new to

1298
01:46:45,100 --> 01:46:46,100
the site plan the wall area, we were

1299
01:46:46,100 --> 01:46:47,100
going to get a lot of additional

1300
01:46:47,100 --> 01:46:48,100
traffic going through there as well.

1301
01:46:48,100 --> 01:46:49,100
That's primarily what I wanted to talk

1302
01:46:49,100 --> 01:46:52,100
about their. There's other comments I

1303
01:46:52,100 --> 01:46:56,100
can make. I'm personally in favor of

1304
01:46:56,100 --> 01:46:59,100
adding a duck pond for the wetlands,

1305
01:46:59,100 --> 01:47:03,201
Walkable duck pond or something. I know

1306
01:47:17,100 --> 01:47:18,100
that's a whole other can of worms,

1307
01:47:18,100 --> 01:47:19,100
that's all I've got, thank you.

1308
01:47:19,100 --> 01:47:21,100
>>Thank you, caller 3678, I will unmute

1309
01:47:21,100 --> 01:47:25,201
you, and you will have two minutes.

1310
01:47:38,100 --> 01:47:39,100
>>Hello, my name is Jennifer call and I

1311
01:47:39,100 --> 01:47:40,100
live in McKinleyville. First I want to

1312
01:47:40,100 --> 01:47:41,100
thank everyone who was involved in

1313
01:47:41,100 --> 01:47:44,100
adding the bike lanesOn Heller Road

1314
01:47:44,100 --> 01:47:45,100
which I wrote on yesterday to go to the

1315
01:47:45,100 --> 01:47:49,801
grocery store.I saw mom with the young

1316
01:47:52,100 --> 01:47:55,601
kid biking on that road. Supercool,

1317
01:48:14,100 --> 01:48:15,100
thank you. I want to thank the McMackin

1318
01:48:15,100 --> 01:48:16,100
County staff for putting so much time

1319
01:48:16,100 --> 01:48:17,100
and effort into this ordinance for the

1320
01:48:17,100 --> 01:48:18,100
past six years in the community members

1321
01:48:18,100 --> 01:48:19,100
to help develop this. It's not perfect,

1322
01:48:19,100 --> 01:48:20,100
I would like to see some different

1323
01:48:20,100 --> 01:48:21,100
things, but I really urge the board to

1324
01:48:21,100 --> 01:48:22,100
adopt the McKinleyville Towncenter

1325
01:48:22,100 --> 01:48:23,100
ordinance as written. It reflects

1326
01:48:23,100 --> 01:48:24,100
Collaboration and compromise achieved

1327
01:48:24,100 --> 01:48:25,100
after many public hearings. I've

1328
01:48:25,100 --> 01:48:26,100
listened lived inMcKinleyville since

1329
01:48:26,100 --> 01:48:29,100
1972 and I was thrilled whenBackSo

1330
01:48:33,100 --> 01:48:34,100
(INAUDIBLE) what we are dealing with

1331
01:48:34,100 --> 01:48:35,100
now on Central Avenue is the cumulative

1332
01:48:35,100 --> 01:48:38,100
effects of individual subdivisions that

1333
01:48:42,100 --> 01:48:43,100
the county approved without considering

1334
01:48:43,100 --> 01:48:46,100
traffic impacts, And somebody said at

1335
01:48:46,100 --> 01:48:47,100
the last hearing the planning

1336
01:48:47,100 --> 01:48:50,100
commission hearingThat it's Broadway in

1337
01:48:51,100 --> 01:48:55,801
Eureka and we really don't need that in

1338
01:49:00,100 --> 01:49:01,100
McKinleyville, we need a safe way to

1339
01:49:01,100 --> 01:49:02,100
walk and bike. The central Avenue

1340
01:49:02,100 --> 01:49:03,100
redesign will be good for businesses

1341
01:49:03,100 --> 01:49:04,100
and for people who live and work in

1342
01:49:04,100 --> 01:49:07,601
McKinleyville. Even if you drive you

1343
01:49:08,100 --> 01:49:09,100
become a pedestrian the minute you step

1344
01:49:09,100 --> 01:49:10,100
out of your car, so please support the

1345
01:49:10,100 --> 01:49:13,601
mix Max "BRIC's recommendation and the

1346
01:49:14,100 --> 01:49:15,100
ordinance has written. Thank you very

1347
01:49:15,100 --> 01:49:16,100
much. "BRIC's "BRIC's "Micmac's.

1348
01:49:16,100 --> 01:49:20,201
>>Next color, you will have two minutes.

1349
01:49:43,100 --> 01:49:44,100
>>Hi Matt, this is Carol (INAUDIBLE), I

1350
01:49:44,100 --> 01:49:45,100
am a McKinleyville resident. I want to

1351
01:49:45,100 --> 01:49:48,100
say to McMackinSupervisors, thank you

1352
01:49:48,100 --> 01:49:51,100
for a really great discussion. I want to

1353
01:49:51,100 --> 01:49:56,100
Say that I am 100%In support of a place

1354
01:49:56,100 --> 01:49:59,100
making for McKinleyville.The strategies

1355
01:49:59,100 --> 01:50:03,801
that are going into it, Over years of

1356
01:50:04,100 --> 01:50:07,601
publicInput and study is incredible. I

1357
01:50:10,100 --> 01:50:11,100
moved to this area a couple of years

1358
01:50:11,100 --> 01:50:15,100
ago from the South Bay, Where I saw like

1359
01:50:15,100 --> 01:50:19,801
What is being done inCamino Real,To try

1360
01:50:21,100 --> 01:50:25,801
and make that a place making effort, I

1361
01:50:29,100 --> 01:50:30,100
know it's been done in (INAUDIBLE), I

1362
01:50:30,100 --> 01:50:31,100
just want a number of cities is that

1363
01:50:31,100 --> 01:50:34,100
haveDone traffic calming measures which

1364
01:50:35,100 --> 01:50:38,100
is bit that people do stay in the

1365
01:50:38,100 --> 01:50:41,100
community, they don't leaveAnd what

1366
01:50:45,100 --> 01:50:46,100
Central Avenue is right now is a good

1367
01:50:46,100 --> 01:50:50,801
example of those, It's a highway to the

1368
01:50:56,100 --> 01:50:57,100
City, where pedestrian schoolchildren

1369
01:50:57,100 --> 01:51:01,100
and people want to get out of their cars

1370
01:51:01,100 --> 01:51:02,100
, we have a lovely area, will have a

1371
01:51:02,100 --> 01:51:03,100
lot of climate refugees coming to the

1372
01:51:03,100 --> 01:51:07,201
area, And we really need to support

1373
01:51:09,100 --> 01:51:13,801
People being outside of a car, Set your

1374
01:51:14,100 --> 01:51:18,801
sort of viewpoint.What I heard today is

1375
01:51:19,100 --> 01:51:22,100
there's a lot of research being done is

1376
01:51:22,100 --> 01:51:24,100
start traffic so that as well and that

1377
01:51:24,100 --> 01:51:28,100
from the wetlands planAnd I am someone

1378
01:51:28,100 --> 01:51:29,100
that works both in energy and

1379
01:51:29,100 --> 01:51:31,401
environment, Experts have concern

1380
01:51:35,100 --> 01:51:36,100
confirm that the plan that is in place

1381
01:51:36,100 --> 01:51:37,100
as a great plan and even betterAnd what

1382
01:51:37,100 --> 01:51:39,100
is currently available.

1383
01:51:45,100 --> 01:51:47,100
>>Apologies, your time has run out. I

1384
01:51:47,100 --> 01:51:51,201
am moving to the next caller.8336, will

1385
01:51:56,100 --> 01:51:57,100
unmute you, and you will have two

1386
01:51:57,100 --> 01:51:59,100
minutes.

1387
01:52:21,100 --> 01:52:24,601
Caller 8336, you have been unmuted.You

1388
01:52:31,100 --> 01:52:35,801
can try to press *6 if it's not working.

1389
01:52:52,100 --> 01:52:56,100
Okay, chair, that is all I have on Zoom.

1390
01:52:56,100 --> 01:52:57,100
>>Can you hear me?

1391
01:52:57,100 --> 01:52:58,100
>>Yes, I can hear you.

1392
01:52:58,100 --> 01:53:00,100
>>Oh my goodness, that was an ordeal.

1393
01:53:00,100 --> 01:53:04,801
Thank you. Here goes.I am not aloneIn

1394
01:53:09,100 --> 01:53:11,100
wondering if the we can leave it will

1395
01:53:11,100 --> 01:53:12,100
advisory committee and planning

1396
01:53:12,100 --> 01:53:15,100
committeeHave carried any real weights

1397
01:53:17,100 --> 01:53:20,601
at all. Many eventsAt the Towncenter

1398
01:53:23,100 --> 01:53:24,100
plan have a small percentage because

1399
01:53:24,100 --> 01:53:27,100
they signed up forAffordable housing

1400
01:53:33,100 --> 01:53:34,100
units. Director Ford told Micmac this

1401
01:53:34,100 --> 01:53:35,100
is a very complicated difficult issue

1402
01:53:35,100 --> 01:53:39,100
and should be table for another time.

1403
01:53:39,100 --> 01:53:40,100
We disagreed stating that California

1404
01:53:40,100 --> 01:53:41,100
has templates designed for various

1405
01:53:41,100 --> 01:53:42,100
counties to do this easily. Within 6000

1406
01:53:42,100 --> 01:53:44,100
people that are going to be movingInto

1407
01:53:44,100 --> 01:53:47,100
McKinleyvilleDon't have that time to

1408
01:53:48,100 --> 01:53:52,100
waste. We can Louisville, A quick table

1409
01:53:52,100 --> 01:53:55,601
district, anyway, we were annoyed. Can

1410
01:53:57,100 --> 01:54:00,100
leave 16,000 people, But less than 1%

1411
01:54:06,100 --> 01:54:07,100
of the population who participated

1412
01:54:07,100 --> 01:54:08,100
here, that's concerning, especially

1413
01:54:08,100 --> 01:54:11,100
since 33% increasedThe room of theAnd

1414
01:54:11,100 --> 01:54:15,201
now living and working in the town

1415
01:54:20,100 --> 01:54:21,100
center. From my recollection of reading

1416
01:54:21,100 --> 01:54:22,100
about this project, this plan was

1417
01:54:22,100 --> 01:54:23,100
largely an addendum to the developer's

1418
01:54:23,100 --> 01:54:24,100
original requestIn life plan. I have

1419
01:54:24,100 --> 01:54:28,201
heard the way it's done, approval first

1420
01:54:43,100 --> 01:54:44,100
, make adjustments. We, the public, are

1421
01:54:44,100 --> 01:54:45,100
asking for adjustments and the

1422
01:54:45,100 --> 01:54:46,100
developer is requesting full

1423
01:54:46,100 --> 01:54:47,100
ministerial control and that is an

1424
01:54:47,100 --> 01:54:48,100
extremely irresponsible plan given the

1425
01:54:48,100 --> 01:54:49,100
size and nature of this project. Please

1426
01:54:49,100 --> 01:54:50,100
allow life plans, that's not a

1427
01:54:50,100 --> 01:54:53,100
question. But justAdded projects,That

1428
01:54:53,100 --> 01:54:57,100
needs to be a new Prague Jack. Humboldt

1429
01:54:57,100 --> 01:55:00,601
County is now considered climate Haven,

1430
01:55:13,100 --> 01:55:14,100
It's growing, that's inevitable, but if

1431
01:55:14,100 --> 01:55:15,100
you want your input there's a trust

1432
01:55:15,100 --> 01:55:16,100
issue as to whether we will be heard.

1433
01:55:16,100 --> 01:55:17,100
For the record

1434
01:55:17,100 --> 01:55:18,100
>>Sorry, you have run out of time, I am

1435
01:55:18,100 --> 01:55:19,100
moving to the next caller, 4509, you

1436
01:55:19,100 --> 01:55:23,201
will be unmuted and have two minutes.

1437
01:55:36,100 --> 01:55:37,100
>>In morning, can you hear me?

1438
01:55:37,100 --> 01:55:39,100
>>Yes.

1439
01:55:48,100 --> 01:55:49,100
>>Hi Matt, thank you for the two

1440
01:55:49,100 --> 01:55:50,100
minutes. My name is Sequoia husband, I

1441
01:55:50,100 --> 01:55:51,100
live in McKinleyville, I have lived

1442
01:55:51,100 --> 01:55:52,100
here since the early 90s back, raise my

1443
01:55:52,100 --> 01:55:53,100
children here and I am callingTo

1444
01:55:53,100 --> 01:55:56,100
understand a little bit moreAboutThe

1445
01:55:57,100 --> 01:56:01,201
development I've been trying to plug in.

1446
01:56:03,100 --> 01:56:04,100
Was confusing we could, if I can get

1447
01:56:04,100 --> 01:56:05,100
some clarity or understanding of the

1448
01:56:05,100 --> 01:56:08,100
timelineAt this development, is this

1449
01:56:14,100 --> 01:56:15,100
something that is supposed to be

1450
01:56:15,100 --> 01:56:16,100
developed prior to the Townsend

1451
01:56:16,100 --> 01:56:17,100
development or something developed

1452
01:56:17,100 --> 01:56:21,801
along with? Because I feel like if it's

1453
01:56:24,100 --> 01:56:25,100
something that doesn't have any pride

1454
01:56:25,100 --> 01:56:26,100
hard to release or understand how this

1455
01:56:26,100 --> 01:56:27,100
reduction of the roads will work in

1456
01:56:27,100 --> 01:56:30,100
stateBut possibly really doing since.

1457
01:56:34,100 --> 01:56:38,100
As far as her being creative, it would

1458
01:56:38,100 --> 01:56:39,100
with the changes they are making. I

1459
01:56:39,100 --> 01:56:40,100
like the idea of slowing down the

1460
01:56:40,100 --> 01:56:42,100
traffic and walk ability and how it

1461
01:56:42,100 --> 01:56:45,601
could create this community center, But

1462
01:56:53,100 --> 01:56:54,100
not by creating congestion which is the

1463
01:56:54,100 --> 01:56:55,100
way it is right now, it just seems like

1464
01:56:55,100 --> 01:56:59,201
it will create congestion.I think the

1465
01:57:00,100 --> 01:57:01,100
Heller Road discussion is something

1466
01:57:01,100 --> 01:57:04,601
that seems like it's ideal(INAUDIBLE)

1467
01:57:07,100 --> 01:57:10,100
and housing looks, wantSincerity around

1468
01:57:11,100 --> 01:57:14,100
the Taliban of the road diet and then

1469
01:57:14,100 --> 01:57:15,100
the only other thing I really want to

1470
01:57:15,100 --> 01:57:19,801
ask to get information on would be how,

1471
01:57:23,100 --> 01:57:27,201
That has the isPeople in community have

1472
01:57:29,100 --> 01:57:31,100
been looking into his dollars Inc. for

1473
01:57:31,100 --> 01:57:35,201
the situation with theHow much money is

1474
01:57:36,100 --> 01:57:40,801
that we get to the Neighborhood so much

1475
01:57:44,100 --> 01:57:45,100
(INAUDIBLE).

1476
01:57:45,100 --> 01:57:50,100
>>Your time has run out and that is all

1477
01:57:50,100 --> 01:57:51,100
of zoom.

1478
01:57:51,100 --> 01:57:55,201
>>We will give youOne more chance on

1479
01:57:58,100 --> 01:57:59,100
Zoom to raise your hand. If your

1480
01:57:59,100 --> 01:58:00,100
listing on your phone and you want to

1481
01:58:00,100 --> 01:58:04,201
make a comment, please raise your hand.

1482
01:58:07,100 --> 01:58:08,100
>>Caller 4615, I will meet you and you

1483
01:58:08,100 --> 01:58:11,100
will have two minutes. "Unmute

1484
01:58:13,100 --> 01:58:15,100
>>Is it on?

1485
01:58:15,100 --> 01:58:17,100
>>Yes.

1486
01:58:18,100 --> 01:58:21,100
>>Dennis Mayo, McKinleyville. First off,

1487
01:58:23,100 --> 01:58:24,100
a lot of things about safety, safety,

1488
01:58:24,100 --> 01:58:27,100
central AvenueSupport the town center

1489
01:58:30,100 --> 01:58:31,100
concept, all the work you guys are

1490
01:58:31,100 --> 01:58:34,100
doing there, have at it. Central Avenue

1491
01:58:34,100 --> 01:58:37,100
Was rated by the insurance agencies

1492
01:58:37,100 --> 01:58:40,100
Association of CaliforniaAs the fifth

1493
01:58:40,100 --> 01:58:43,601
safest BoulevardOf its traffic in "The

1494
01:58:50,100 --> 01:58:53,601
fifth safestIn California. On the west

1495
01:58:55,100 --> 01:58:59,201
side, get rid of the ridiculous bridal

1496
01:59:00,100 --> 01:59:04,201
path. The damn thing has never worked.

1497
01:59:06,100 --> 01:59:07,100
Remove that path, wide that out, to

1498
01:59:07,100 --> 01:59:09,100
reduce the vegetation somewhat, you

1499
01:59:09,100 --> 01:59:12,601
have plenty of accessOf people with

1500
01:59:14,100 --> 01:59:17,601
modality issues that go over onto,

1501
01:59:19,100 --> 01:59:20,100
That's the side, I apologize. On the

1502
01:59:20,100 --> 01:59:23,100
west side, fix the sidewalks. Just

1503
01:59:23,100 --> 01:59:26,100
spend some time, fixes sidewalks,

1504
01:59:26,100 --> 01:59:27,100
you're going to have everything you need

1505
01:59:27,100 --> 01:59:30,100
if you will doAndEntranceTo the

1506
01:59:43,100 --> 01:59:44,100
(INAUDIBLE) I will tell you why did the

1507
01:59:44,100 --> 01:59:48,100
BRIC vote in a split vote for the three

1508
01:59:48,100 --> 01:59:51,100
lanes, because they ignore public.

1509
01:59:57,100 --> 01:59:58,100
People did not like it, do not like it,

1510
01:59:58,100 --> 01:59:59,100
and that's a bad deal. We helped create

1511
01:59:59,100 --> 02:00:00,100
that MicmacSo you would listen to the

1512
02:00:00,100 --> 02:00:03,601
public, notTake off on their own

1513
02:00:05,100 --> 02:00:08,601
specific agendas. Okay?Let's see, is

1514
02:00:14,100 --> 02:00:15,100
there anything else? How much time do I

1515
02:00:15,100 --> 02:00:16,100
have, seven seconds, thank you, I hope

1516
02:00:16,100 --> 02:00:19,100
you will consider my comments.

1517
02:00:24,100 --> 02:00:25,100
>>Thank you. That is all, chair.

1518
02:00:25,100 --> 02:00:26,100
>>Okay, I'm going to close public

1519
02:00:26,100 --> 02:00:27,100
comment on the zoom and we are going to

1520
02:00:27,100 --> 02:00:28,100
start within the room. Please come

1521
02:00:28,100 --> 02:00:31,601
forward, good morning.From a good

1522
02:00:32,100 --> 02:00:33,100
morning, Madam Chair and members. Been

1523
02:00:33,100 --> 02:00:37,801
a long time, butLooking where I sat for

1524
02:00:43,100 --> 02:00:44,100
10 years where you sit, it's good to be

1525
02:00:44,100 --> 02:00:45,100
back in the Board of Supervisors

1526
02:00:45,100 --> 02:00:46,100
chambers, I am Wesley chess borough, a

1527
02:00:46,100 --> 02:00:47,100
resident of McKinleyville and my wife

1528
02:00:47,100 --> 02:00:51,801
and owner are "Wife and I are property

1529
02:00:52,100 --> 02:00:53,100
owners in McKinleyville. I support the

1530
02:00:53,100 --> 02:00:54,100
Micmac and the plan they have

1531
02:00:54,100 --> 02:00:56,401
recommended, it's been unanimously

1532
02:01:03,100 --> 02:01:04,100
adopted with the planning commission

1533
02:01:04,100 --> 02:01:05,100
with regards to high density housing

1534
02:01:05,100 --> 02:01:06,100
and with regard to traffic calming. I

1535
02:01:06,100 --> 02:01:07,100
drive up and down central almost every

1536
02:01:07,100 --> 02:01:08,100
day to go to the post office or the

1537
02:01:08,100 --> 02:01:09,100
grocery store or church, I am willing

1538
02:01:09,100 --> 02:01:12,601
to sacrificeMy time going into the

1539
02:01:13,100 --> 02:01:17,801
shopping center if it makes the "If it

1540
02:01:22,100 --> 02:01:23,100
brings safety. I was pulling up in the

1541
02:01:23,100 --> 02:01:24,100
right-hand lane with one of those

1542
02:01:24,100 --> 02:01:25,100
flashing safety crosswalks were two

1543
02:01:25,100 --> 02:01:28,601
teenagers were walking outAnd to my

1544
02:01:39,100 --> 02:01:40,100
horror looked at my left hand mirrors,

1545
02:01:40,100 --> 02:01:41,100
racing forward he didn't see the

1546
02:01:41,100 --> 02:01:42,100
teenagers, they didn't see me and those

1547
02:01:42,100 --> 02:01:43,100
teenagers escape death by a couple of

1548
02:01:43,100 --> 02:01:44,100
inches right in front of me. As one of

1549
02:01:44,100 --> 02:01:45,100
the most horrifying driving experiences

1550
02:01:45,100 --> 02:01:46,100
I've ever had.So there is no reason why

1551
02:01:46,100 --> 02:01:47,100
the thorough fare for the McKinleyville

1552
02:01:47,100 --> 02:01:50,100
has to have the same widthAs South

1553
02:01:50,100 --> 02:01:51,100
Broadway, Highway 101 with the 10 times

1554
02:01:51,100 --> 02:01:53,100
the amount of traffic. A lot of people

1555
02:01:53,100 --> 02:01:57,201
are saying slow us down, that's the

1556
02:01:58,100 --> 02:01:59,100
point, to slow it down. We have many

1557
02:01:59,100 --> 02:02:02,100
disabledPeople including my wife in

1558
02:02:09,100 --> 02:02:10,100
McKinleyville who need to get across

1559
02:02:10,100 --> 02:02:11,100
Central Avenue and it is a challenge. I

1560
02:02:11,100 --> 02:02:12,100
am here to advocate for a more complete

1561
02:02:12,100 --> 02:02:15,100
community and a safer community,

1562
02:02:15,100 --> 02:02:16,100
municipal advisory committee to put

1563
02:02:16,100 --> 02:02:17,100
years worth of work and I support what

1564
02:02:17,100 --> 02:02:21,201
they have a topicAnd what the planning

1565
02:02:22,100 --> 02:02:23,100
commission has unanimously

1566
02:02:23,100 --> 02:02:24,100
recommendation "recommended.

1567
02:02:24,100 --> 02:02:25,100
>>Thank you.

1568
02:02:25,100 --> 02:02:28,100
>>Good morning. Brenda Rosoff, LIFO

1569
02:02:28,100 --> 02:02:30,100
McKinleyvilleResident peer, against

1570
02:02:33,100 --> 02:02:37,100
this road diet.When this was done a

1571
02:02:37,100 --> 02:02:40,601
couple of years ago, we hadConstruction

1572
02:02:42,100 --> 02:02:43,100
on Central Avenue, Central Avenue at

1573
02:02:43,100 --> 02:02:46,100
different times was down to one, I'm

1574
02:02:46,100 --> 02:02:49,601
sorry, two, sometimes three lanes.When

1575
02:02:50,100 --> 02:02:51,100
we came home we were backed up onto the

1576
02:02:51,100 --> 02:02:55,201
freeway.I'm going to take 299, come up

1577
02:02:56,100 --> 02:02:59,100
Azalea, get bank car all scratched up.

1578
02:02:59,100 --> 02:03:03,201
This plan can't go forwardAn Pete until

1579
02:03:19,100 --> 02:03:20,100
you do the professional comprehensive

1580
02:03:20,100 --> 02:03:21,100
traffic study, the current one. The

1581
02:03:21,100 --> 02:03:22,100
last one you did has been thrown around

1582
02:03:22,100 --> 02:03:23,100
by Micmac when it benefits them but

1583
02:03:23,100 --> 02:03:24,100
it's been thrown out when it doesn't

1584
02:03:24,100 --> 02:03:25,100
benefit them. By understanding, I

1585
02:03:25,100 --> 02:03:26,100
looked at it, I did not recommend the

1586
02:03:26,100 --> 02:03:27,100
road diet. That was not their

1587
02:03:27,100 --> 02:03:28,100
recommendation.

1588
02:03:28,100 --> 02:03:29,100
Let's see here.Edge of the sidewalk,

1589
02:03:29,100 --> 02:03:32,601
yesterday, to wear thoseShrubs are, is

1590
02:03:33,100 --> 02:03:37,201
just under 19 feet. Thanks of the out

1591
02:03:38,100 --> 02:03:42,801
put a little cement barrier in.We got

1592
02:03:44,100 --> 02:03:45,100
tons of room to work with that right

1593
02:03:45,100 --> 02:03:46,100
there. Right now, we don't even have

1594
02:03:46,100 --> 02:03:51,401
the two lanes. When I go home and I'm

1595
02:03:55,100 --> 02:03:56,100
going to Saturday night, the traffic is

1596
02:03:56,100 --> 02:03:57,100
already backed up in the one of the

1597
02:03:57,100 --> 02:03:58,100
lanes and it gets pretty far backed up.

1598
02:03:58,100 --> 02:03:59,100
You're going to create a horrible

1599
02:03:59,100 --> 02:04:02,601
bottleneck. Older folks can even get

1600
02:04:04,100 --> 02:04:05,100
across there right now. They will never

1601
02:04:05,100 --> 02:04:06,100
get across. Going down from four lanes

1602
02:04:06,100 --> 02:04:10,201
to two lanes of the little strangeI

1603
02:04:15,100 --> 02:04:16,100
haven't even gotten number two yet. I'm

1604
02:04:16,100 --> 02:04:18,401
totally against the spiritPeer

1605
02:04:41,100 --> 02:04:42,100
>>I'm sorry.

1606
02:04:42,100 --> 02:04:43,100
>>In morning, ma'am. Payment hi Matt,

1607
02:04:43,100 --> 02:04:44,100
good morning.

1608
02:04:44,100 --> 02:04:45,100
>>I am and Lindsay, President of life

1609
02:04:45,100 --> 02:04:46,100
land and a McKinley mill resident

1610
02:04:46,100 --> 02:04:47,100
there's some life plan Humboldt

1611
02:04:47,100 --> 02:04:48,100
supporters who may not be able to.

1612
02:04:48,100 --> 02:04:49,100
>>Please address the board.

1613
02:04:49,100 --> 02:04:51,100
>>, I want plan supporters to raise

1614
02:04:51,100 --> 02:04:52,100
their hands because they may not all

1615
02:04:52,100 --> 02:04:54,100
get a chance to speak.We actually

1616
02:04:54,100 --> 02:04:56,401
reported 10,000 volunteer hours the

1617
02:04:58,100 --> 02:04:59,100
last two and half years was a real

1618
02:04:59,100 --> 02:05:02,100
community project. I have regularly

1619
02:05:09,100 --> 02:05:10,100
attended the Micmac for the last 3 1/2

1620
02:05:10,100 --> 02:05:11,100
years since life plan Humboldt set our

1621
02:05:11,100 --> 02:05:12,100
sights on building a vibrant senior

1622
02:05:12,100 --> 02:05:13,100
community in the McKinleyville

1623
02:05:13,100 --> 02:05:16,100
Towncenter, And alongsideAnn, we plan

1624
02:05:17,100 --> 02:05:18,100
for community and following the plan

1625
02:05:18,100 --> 02:05:20,100
including wetland management and

1626
02:05:20,100 --> 02:05:23,100
enhancement will become an economic

1627
02:05:28,100 --> 02:05:29,100
driver for the future town center

1628
02:05:29,100 --> 02:05:30,100
development. We made a partnership of

1629
02:05:30,100 --> 02:05:31,100
rural community housing for senior

1630
02:05:31,100 --> 02:05:32,100
affordable or low income housing, so it

1631
02:05:32,100 --> 02:05:35,100
meetsA real need in the community and

1632
02:05:35,100 --> 02:05:39,100
thus in an effort of the goal of the

1633
02:05:39,100 --> 02:05:40,100
board all along. There is no other

1634
02:05:40,100 --> 02:05:43,100
developmentThat is had searched the

1635
02:05:49,100 --> 02:05:50,100
whole town centers at such attention

1636
02:05:50,100 --> 02:05:51,100
from citizens, and surpassing any

1637
02:05:51,100 --> 02:05:52,100
design review committee that I've ever

1638
02:05:52,100 --> 02:05:55,100
heard of.. ParticipantsOur stage for

1639
02:06:00,100 --> 02:06:04,801
public input. I urge you to follow the

1640
02:06:10,100 --> 02:06:11,100
recommendations, the planning

1641
02:06:11,100 --> 02:06:12,100
commission, Micmac, and the planning

1642
02:06:12,100 --> 02:06:15,100
department, certified the EIR,Support

1643
02:06:15,100 --> 02:06:16,100
the ordinance, have courage, we want to

1644
02:06:16,100 --> 02:06:19,601
get the development going. Thank you.

1645
02:06:41,100 --> 02:06:42,100
Good morning, sir.

1646
02:06:42,100 --> 02:06:43,100
>>I am Charles Perkins from

1647
02:06:43,100 --> 02:06:44,100
McKinleyville. I strongly support the

1648
02:06:44,100 --> 02:06:45,100
town plan and the road diet. My

1649
02:06:45,100 --> 02:06:46,100
grandkids walked down Central Avenue to

1650
02:06:46,100 --> 02:06:47,100
go to school and it's scary. I do all

1651
02:06:47,100 --> 02:06:48,100
my shopping there and I sprinted across

1652
02:06:48,100 --> 02:06:49,100
Central Avenue many times and it's

1653
02:06:49,100 --> 02:06:50,100
scary. Something should've been done 30

1654
02:06:50,100 --> 02:06:54,201
years ago and I strongly supportIt be

1655
02:06:57,100 --> 02:06:58,100
done now. Beyond that, if McKinleyville

1656
02:06:58,100 --> 02:06:59,100
is going to become a town as is being

1657
02:06:59,100 --> 02:07:00,100
discussed, proper town, he needs to

1658
02:07:00,100 --> 02:07:01,100
have an identity. We're not going to

1659
02:07:01,100 --> 02:07:02,100
have a whole town but even Trinidad

1660
02:07:02,100 --> 02:07:04,100
Blue Lake have a sense of identity and

1661
02:07:04,100 --> 02:07:05,100
the road diet is essential to create

1662
02:07:05,100 --> 02:07:07,100
that. I'm convinced that when you do

1663
02:07:07,100 --> 02:07:10,100
thingsIt increases. I strongly support

1664
02:07:26,100 --> 02:07:27,100
their road diet and I hope you will

1665
02:07:27,100 --> 02:07:28,100
approve it.

1666
02:07:28,100 --> 02:07:29,100
>>Thank you, good morning.

1667
02:07:29,100 --> 02:07:30,100
>>Hi, my name is Kathleen Clark and I

1668
02:07:30,100 --> 02:07:31,100
am a resident of McKinleyville. I used

1669
02:07:31,100 --> 02:07:34,100
to live on Dallas PrairieIn the 1890s

1670
02:07:34,100 --> 02:07:35,100
and now I live off Hammond Trail and I

1671
02:07:35,100 --> 02:07:36,100
am a huge supporter of life plan. I

1672
02:07:36,100 --> 02:07:41,401
grew up in San JoseAnd it's kind of not

1673
02:07:43,100 --> 02:07:44,100
different from humble. It started off

1674
02:07:44,100 --> 02:07:45,100
agricultural and there are some parts

1675
02:07:45,100 --> 02:07:49,801
that try to retain that identity. It is

1676
02:08:02,100 --> 02:08:03,100
(INAUDIBLE) they had a lot of

1677
02:08:03,100 --> 02:08:04,100
congestion and erode diet, 15, 20 years

1678
02:08:04,100 --> 02:08:07,100
ago. Transform the neighborhood and

1679
02:08:07,100 --> 02:08:08,100
people that were initially very fearful

1680
02:08:08,100 --> 02:08:11,100
of it and objected to it have turned

1681
02:08:11,100 --> 02:08:12,100
into huge supporters because it

1682
02:08:12,100 --> 02:08:14,401
enlivened the neighborhood, the

1683
02:08:16,100 --> 02:08:17,100
businesses thrive, restaurants now live

1684
02:08:17,100 --> 02:08:18,100
for places their property values have

1685
02:08:18,100 --> 02:08:21,601
gone up. Other communities in the

1686
02:08:23,100 --> 02:08:25,100
outlying areas all want to replicate it

1687
02:08:25,100 --> 02:08:29,201
, Los Gatos, Saratoga, The east side of

1688
02:08:34,100 --> 02:08:35,100
San Jose, they find it makes for safer

1689
02:08:35,100 --> 02:08:36,100
streets, it makes for, gives a sense of

1690
02:08:36,100 --> 02:08:40,801
identity to the area, And I just want

1691
02:08:41,100 --> 02:08:42,100
to reassure people that it's scary and

1692
02:08:42,100 --> 02:08:43,100
I was initially one of the objectors in

1693
02:08:43,100 --> 02:08:45,100
San JoseAnd I'm grateful not to look

1694
02:08:45,100 --> 02:08:49,201
back on it and seeWhat an incredible

1695
02:08:50,100 --> 02:08:53,601
place it is nowAnd McKinley villas

1696
02:08:59,100 --> 02:09:00,100
trying to achieve something similar.

1697
02:09:00,100 --> 02:09:02,100
>>Thank you, good morning, sir.

1698
02:09:02,100 --> 02:09:04,100
>>Yes, board, thank you for being here,

1699
02:09:04,100 --> 02:09:07,100
Director Madsen, Especially you. John

1700
02:09:21,100 --> 02:09:22,100
Ford, thank you for saying in our

1701
02:09:22,100 --> 02:09:23,100
community. We recognize you live in

1702
02:09:23,100 --> 02:09:25,100
McKinleyville. Unmuted history about

1703
02:09:25,100 --> 02:09:29,801
Planning of "let me give you planning of

1704
02:09:32,100 --> 02:09:33,100
Central Avenue. I was selected by this

1705
02:09:33,100 --> 02:09:34,100
board back in 2015, and we worked

1706
02:09:34,100 --> 02:09:36,401
tirelessly for four yearsBeginning

1707
02:09:40,100 --> 02:09:41,100
Central Avenue the way we wanted. Herve

1708
02:09:41,100 --> 02:09:46,401
came to the table on that.. Now we want

1709
02:09:47,100 --> 02:09:49,100
to change? How did the essential Avenue

1710
02:09:49,100 --> 02:09:54,401
get tied up in this EIR?Okay, when I

1711
02:10:00,100 --> 02:10:01,100
was on the Micmac, our priorities were

1712
02:10:01,100 --> 02:10:04,100
safety. We helpedProgressOf Measure Z.

1713
02:10:05,100 --> 02:10:09,100
Okay? We took on Central Avenue. We did

1714
02:10:09,100 --> 02:10:10,100
safe route to schools, which is been

1715
02:10:10,100 --> 02:10:13,601
dropped. Go around our schoolsSee how

1716
02:10:19,100 --> 02:10:20,100
our roads and sidewalks are. We began

1717
02:10:20,100 --> 02:10:24,201
in the town ordinance is a priority.

1718
02:10:39,100 --> 02:10:40,100
But that was in our priority. Four

1719
02:10:40,100 --> 02:10:41,100
years of planning, Tom Madsen, thank

1720
02:10:41,100 --> 02:10:42,100
you, you are there at many meetings,

1721
02:10:42,100 --> 02:10:43,100
our county planning, everybody was

1722
02:10:43,100 --> 02:10:44,100
there, plenty of meetings and now we

1723
02:10:44,100 --> 02:10:45,100
are trying to reverse this. Okay,I have

1724
02:10:45,100 --> 02:10:48,100
worked for SH M for 45 years, I have

1725
02:10:48,100 --> 02:10:49,100
been involved in these projects, EIR's

1726
02:10:49,100 --> 02:10:51,100
traffic studies. You guysWhat are you

1727
02:10:51,100 --> 02:10:53,100
thinking.

1728
02:11:00,100 --> 02:11:04,201
>>Thank you, sir. Hi Matt, good morning.

1729
02:11:05,100 --> 02:11:08,100
>>And willing. When, A lifelong

1730
02:11:10,100 --> 02:11:11,100
resident of McKinleyville, went to

1731
02:11:11,100 --> 02:11:15,201
school there, were was raise their work

1732
02:11:16,100 --> 02:11:17,100
there is a superintendent of northern

1733
02:11:17,100 --> 02:11:20,601
Humboldt years and just retired from

1734
02:11:24,100 --> 02:11:25,100
Cal poly Humboldt. I am only here to

1735
02:11:25,100 --> 02:11:26,100
speak about the road diet. There are

1736
02:11:26,100 --> 02:11:29,100
certain things about it, Individuals,

1737
02:11:32,100 --> 02:11:33,100
the question is how does it Central

1738
02:11:33,100 --> 02:11:34,100
Avenue get tied up in this and the fact

1739
02:11:34,100 --> 02:11:38,801
isIn regards to that. Bios is the smart

1740
02:11:42,100 --> 02:11:46,201
phone "At the park were saying it

1741
02:11:57,100 --> 02:11:58,100
basically makes no sense whatsoever. I

1742
02:11:58,100 --> 02:11:59,100
talked to two or three business

1743
02:11:59,100 --> 02:12:00,100
members, they are completely opposed. I

1744
02:12:00,100 --> 02:12:01,100
think before you jump on this Central

1745
02:12:01,100 --> 02:12:05,201
Avenue move, again, we are going to

1746
02:12:10,100 --> 02:12:11,100
Bring 6000 more people, whatever,

1747
02:12:11,100 --> 02:12:12,100
great, you know what I mean? The point

1748
02:12:12,100 --> 02:12:13,100
is you don't decrease the roads and the

1749
02:12:13,100 --> 02:12:14,100
size of the road to take care of the

1750
02:12:14,100 --> 02:12:15,100
new 6000 people nearby's got two cars,

1751
02:12:15,100 --> 02:12:16,100
right?So I would just again thank you

1752
02:12:16,100 --> 02:12:20,801
for listening to meAnd I am opposed to

1753
02:12:21,100 --> 02:12:22,100
deletion of any of those lanes. Thank

1754
02:12:22,100 --> 02:12:24,100
you.

1755
02:12:24,100 --> 02:12:25,100
>>Thank you. Good morning.

1756
02:12:25,100 --> 02:12:29,801
>>In morning.My name is Lori Shepard, a

1757
02:12:34,100 --> 02:12:35,100
30+ year resident of McKinleyville and

1758
02:12:35,100 --> 02:12:36,100
I've been asked to read a couple of

1759
02:12:36,100 --> 02:12:39,100
statements improvement in the air. The

1760
02:12:39,100 --> 02:12:40,100
first is from Frank Maguire, his

1761
02:12:40,100 --> 02:12:43,601
famously the north bank road, I've

1762
02:12:55,100 --> 02:12:56,100
worked for (INAUDIBLE) for 25 years, 15

1763
02:12:56,100 --> 02:12:57,100
were in the (INAUDIBLE) Avenue. It used

1764
02:12:57,100 --> 02:12:58,100
to be known as the crash meets because

1765
02:12:58,100 --> 02:12:59,100
there were so many accidents prior to

1766
02:12:59,100 --> 02:13:00,100
the alteration that added lanes north

1767
02:13:00,100 --> 02:13:01,100
and south and the addition of

1768
02:13:01,100 --> 02:13:02,100
stoplights in a bicycle lane. Those

1769
02:13:02,100 --> 02:13:05,100
changes reduce serious traffic accident

1770
02:13:05,100 --> 02:13:08,100
, Sharing to each directional creates

1771
02:13:14,100 --> 02:13:15,100
serious congestion and increase

1772
02:13:15,100 --> 02:13:16,100
accidents from 7 to 9 AM from 330 to 6

1773
02:13:16,100 --> 02:13:19,601
PM,. Accidents will increase. The road

1774
02:13:33,100 --> 02:13:34,100
died is in the midst of (INAUDIBLE).

1775
02:13:34,100 --> 02:13:35,100
This road diet would impede emergency

1776
02:13:35,100 --> 02:13:36,100
response from the fire station and from

1777
02:13:36,100 --> 02:13:39,100
the Humboldt County Sheriff substation,

1778
02:13:49,100 --> 02:13:50,100
there is even a school in the middle of

1779
02:13:50,100 --> 02:13:51,100
the planned area. Traffic from

1780
02:13:51,100 --> 02:13:52,100
businesses and post office which are

1781
02:13:52,100 --> 02:13:53,100
often very crowded are very close to

1782
02:13:53,100 --> 02:13:54,100
the emergency response stations.

1783
02:13:54,100 --> 02:13:55,100
Imagine fire police agencies and

1784
02:13:55,100 --> 02:13:56,100
emergency responders from McKinleyville

1785
02:13:56,100 --> 02:13:59,601
and outlying areasTrying to get through

1786
02:14:01,100 --> 02:14:02,100
traffic during a disaster. Lives could

1787
02:14:02,100 --> 02:14:03,100
be lost. The other one is from Diane

1788
02:14:03,100 --> 02:14:04,100
Eric McGuire, it's similar, I don't

1789
02:14:04,100 --> 02:14:05,100
think I can read it all and get it in

1790
02:14:05,100 --> 02:14:06,100
time, I would like to addThere are many

1791
02:14:06,100 --> 02:14:07,100
of us who do not live in areas of

1792
02:14:07,100 --> 02:14:08,100
McKinleyville that are walkable or bike

1793
02:14:08,100 --> 02:14:11,100
will, the awful Azalea Road, have a

1794
02:14:11,100 --> 02:14:14,100
mountain bike, and he bank, I can't get

1795
02:14:14,100 --> 02:14:16,100
to the town center without aEndangering

1796
02:14:16,100 --> 02:14:20,201
myLife. Fix the other roads first, they

1797
02:14:22,100 --> 02:14:23,100
don't help anybody.

1798
02:14:23,100 --> 02:14:25,100
>>Thank you.

1799
02:14:44,100 --> 02:14:45,100
>>Good morning, I am Alyssa Smith, I am

1800
02:14:45,100 --> 02:14:46,100
a lifelong resident of McKinley County.

1801
02:14:46,100 --> 02:14:47,100
Rex, I appreciate it, was one of the

1802
02:14:47,100 --> 02:14:48,100
first committee members for Eller Park

1803
02:14:48,100 --> 02:14:49,100
construction, I believe it because I

1804
02:14:49,100 --> 02:14:50,100
moved to blue Lake for a few years and

1805
02:14:50,100 --> 02:14:51,100
we surveyed the town of McKinleyville

1806
02:14:51,100 --> 02:14:52,100
in my time there and what we

1807
02:14:52,100 --> 02:14:54,401
overwhelmingly heard was McKinleyville

1808
02:15:03,100 --> 02:15:04,100
did not want to town center, they did

1809
02:15:04,100 --> 02:15:05,100
not want a bunch of high density

1810
02:15:05,100 --> 02:15:06,100
growth, they wanted single-family

1811
02:15:06,100 --> 02:15:07,100
growth and some slower growth. You have

1812
02:15:07,100 --> 02:15:08,100
now shamelessly burned McKinleyville

1813
02:15:08,100 --> 02:15:09,100
for over 30 years with high density

1814
02:15:09,100 --> 02:15:10,100
housing. I left off of Sutter Road,

1815
02:15:10,100 --> 02:15:11,100
turn off of it everyday. Whatever the

1816
02:15:11,100 --> 02:15:12,100
interpretation here is not, it's

1817
02:15:12,100 --> 02:15:13,100
getting more and more difficult to turn

1818
02:15:13,100 --> 02:15:17,100
on the Miro when I come home like so

1819
02:15:17,100 --> 02:15:18,100
many people experience when they did

1820
02:15:18,100 --> 02:15:19,100
shed them to to send of Central Avenue.

1821
02:15:19,100 --> 02:15:20,100
I got trapped on the highway because

1822
02:15:20,100 --> 02:15:21,100
traffic was backed up from hardwoodTo

1823
02:15:21,100 --> 02:15:23,100
Highway 101. Regularly. I felt in

1824
02:15:23,100 --> 02:15:26,601
danger and saying on the highwayNobody

1825
02:15:36,100 --> 02:15:37,100
in this town supports the road diet. We

1826
02:15:37,100 --> 02:15:38,100
understand growth will happen, most are

1827
02:15:38,100 --> 02:15:39,100
against this town center. I have been

1828
02:15:39,100 --> 02:15:43,100
and sat in onMale meetings and they

1829
02:15:43,100 --> 02:15:46,100
disregarded a Lenovo. The committee

1830
02:15:52,100 --> 02:15:56,201
itself is appointed by you.It was

1831
02:16:02,100 --> 02:16:03,100
headed by a Pearson employee. It feels

1832
02:16:03,100 --> 02:16:04,100
like you're not being honest, you're

1833
02:16:04,100 --> 02:16:07,100
not with the honest with the community

1834
02:16:07,100 --> 02:16:08,100
community for Heller Park years ago,

1835
02:16:08,100 --> 02:16:09,100
because you came out and told everybody

1836
02:16:09,100 --> 02:16:13,100
of all also a lot of growth. That is

1837
02:16:13,100 --> 02:16:14,100
not what the town said. It was any of

1838
02:16:14,100 --> 02:16:15,100
you. I know a lot ofPeople in

1839
02:16:15,100 --> 02:16:18,601
McKinleyville, they have been here my

1840
02:16:24,100 --> 02:16:25,100
whole life and they are very opposed to

1841
02:16:25,100 --> 02:16:26,100
this. We understand the development

1842
02:16:26,100 --> 02:16:27,100
will happen, this road diet needs to go

1843
02:16:27,100 --> 02:16:28,100
away.

1844
02:16:28,100 --> 02:16:31,601
>>Thank you.Hi Matt, good morning.

1845
02:16:32,100 --> 02:16:36,201
>>And moaning. Llamas are a black. I've

1846
02:16:40,100 --> 02:16:41,100
been arrested in Arcata for over 25

1847
02:16:41,100 --> 02:16:45,201
years. As a boardOf life plan Humboldt,

1848
02:17:01,100 --> 02:17:04,601
The (INAUDIBLE)Is essential for life

1849
02:17:07,100 --> 02:17:08,100
plan Humboldt moving forward. Life plan

1850
02:17:08,100 --> 02:17:11,601
Humboldt is a nonprofitWith time bound

1851
02:17:18,100 --> 02:17:19,100
Funding. Success will be threatened by

1852
02:17:19,100 --> 02:17:22,601
further delayIn the schedule.Life plan

1853
02:17:24,100 --> 02:17:25,100
Humboldt has been planning and gaining

1854
02:17:25,100 --> 02:17:26,100
support in the local community for over

1855
02:17:26,100 --> 02:17:29,100
five yearsAnd is ready to start the

1856
02:17:29,100 --> 02:17:32,601
building processOnce the EIR and the

1857
02:17:34,100 --> 02:17:37,100
Towncenter ordinance is approved.The

1858
02:17:39,100 --> 02:17:43,201
most prudentDecision you can make is if

1859
02:17:44,100 --> 02:17:47,100
you are in doubt aboutWhat to do about

1860
02:17:47,100 --> 02:17:50,601
the red diet, Delay that decision.

1861
02:17:51,100 --> 02:17:54,601
Delay the decisionOf the road dietUntil

1862
02:18:00,100 --> 02:18:01,100
you can do a traffic study, etc. But go

1863
02:18:01,100 --> 02:18:02,100
forward with the EIR and the town center

1864
02:18:02,100 --> 02:18:05,100
Ordinance. That's essential.Delay can

1865
02:18:09,100 --> 02:18:11,401
very much negatively affectThe

1866
02:18:12,100 --> 02:18:15,100
development. Thank you so much.

1867
02:18:31,100 --> 02:18:32,100
>>Thank you. Good morning.

1868
02:18:32,100 --> 02:18:33,100
>>Good morning, board. I'm Greg Mauro

1869
02:18:33,100 --> 02:18:34,100
Porcini, I am a resident of the

1870
02:18:34,100 --> 02:18:35,100
community services District 535 years

1871
02:18:35,100 --> 02:18:36,100
of experience in the public sector.

1872
02:18:36,100 --> 02:18:37,100
Full disclosure, I am on the Board of

1873
02:18:37,100 --> 02:18:39,100
Directors for life plan Humboldt and

1874
02:18:39,100 --> 02:18:40,100
McKinleyville community services

1875
02:18:40,100 --> 02:18:41,100
District, I spent from 2012 to this

1876
02:18:41,100 --> 02:18:42,100
past February on Micmac also.A lot of

1877
02:18:42,100 --> 02:18:44,100
what I had planned to sayWas already

1878
02:18:44,100 --> 02:18:48,801
brought upBy aerosol, I am not going to

1879
02:18:50,100 --> 02:18:51,100
talk about those things, but to

1880
02:18:51,100 --> 02:18:54,601
reiterate what he saidAnd support what

1881
02:18:56,100 --> 02:19:01,401
he said. My concern is related to I will

1882
02:19:04,100 --> 02:19:05,100
Road diet part of it. I think the board

1883
02:19:05,100 --> 02:19:07,100
is an Presbytery year, you can

1884
02:19:07,100 --> 02:19:09,100
bifurcate the road diet part of the

1885
02:19:09,100 --> 02:19:13,801
process and still passThe rest of the Q

1886
02:19:14,100 --> 02:19:18,201
ZoneFor the town center, I would highly

1887
02:19:19,100 --> 02:19:23,100
support that. The road dietWill not be

1888
02:19:23,100 --> 02:19:27,801
in a vacuum, it's going to have effects

1889
02:19:28,100 --> 02:19:29,100
in all McKinleyville, all is fairly

1890
02:19:29,100 --> 02:19:33,201
roads in McKinleyville. A lot of the

1891
02:19:34,100 --> 02:19:35,100
issues with Central Avenue are not

1892
02:19:35,100 --> 02:19:38,601
related to traffic control. It's bad

1893
02:19:40,100 --> 02:19:41,100
behavior. You're going to be shunting

1894
02:19:41,100 --> 02:19:45,201
that bad behavior onto our roadsAre our

1895
02:19:47,100 --> 02:19:48,100
residents live in the neighborhoods and

1896
02:19:48,100 --> 02:19:52,100
make it if you think the central Avenue

1897
02:19:52,100 --> 02:19:56,201
On the ball(INAUDIBLE) thank you very

1898
02:19:58,100 --> 02:19:59,100
much.

1899
02:19:59,100 --> 02:20:00,100
>>Thank you. Good morning. Please come

1900
02:20:00,100 --> 02:20:01,100
forward.

1901
02:20:01,100 --> 02:20:04,601
>>Good morning.My name is Sylvia

1902
02:20:07,100 --> 02:20:08,100
Mitchell, Ima McKinley bill resident

1903
02:20:08,100 --> 02:20:09,100
and my household is opposed to the road

1904
02:20:09,100 --> 02:20:12,601
diet plan.Changes to Central Avenue

1905
02:20:13,100 --> 02:20:14,100
will affect McKinleyville's unique

1906
02:20:14,100 --> 02:20:16,401
character for generations. Central

1907
02:20:20,100 --> 02:20:21,100
Avenue and its shops are part of

1908
02:20:21,100 --> 02:20:22,100
McKinleyville's practical identity and

1909
02:20:22,100 --> 02:20:25,100
using traffic accessIs needed for

1910
02:20:28,100 --> 02:20:29,100
businesses to be successful. A lower

1911
02:20:29,100 --> 02:20:33,201
speed limit and the speed bumps would

1912
02:20:37,100 --> 02:20:38,100
be substantially less expensive than

1913
02:20:38,100 --> 02:20:39,100
restructuring the driving lanes, the

1914
02:20:39,100 --> 02:20:40,100
bicycle lanes need clear and regular

1915
02:20:40,100 --> 02:20:43,100
paintingBudgeted. Some white posts and

1916
02:20:43,100 --> 02:20:44,100
barriers in the crosswalks need more

1917
02:20:44,100 --> 02:20:46,100
intensePainting and signaling.

1918
02:20:49,100 --> 02:20:52,100
McKinleyville hasWalking areas that are

1919
02:20:53,100 --> 02:20:56,100
already here, The Midtown trails

1920
02:20:59,100 --> 02:21:00,100
extended to the south, it would be the

1921
02:21:00,100 --> 02:21:04,201
envy of it is. Passing through the

1922
02:21:11,100 --> 02:21:12,100
developments with tributaries to the

1923
02:21:12,100 --> 02:21:13,100
existing shopping plaza, the CEQA farm

1924
02:21:13,100 --> 02:21:14,100
stand, the hardwood trail and on to

1925
02:21:14,100 --> 02:21:16,100
school Road in the mad River Trail,

1926
02:21:16,100 --> 02:21:20,201
pain trails through the west side ofSet

1927
02:21:24,100 --> 02:21:25,100
town would be family-friendly into

1928
02:21:25,100 --> 02:21:26,100
place for tourists. The new Heller Road

1929
02:21:26,100 --> 02:21:28,100
project is a great example of what

1930
02:21:28,100 --> 02:21:29,100
could be done to many streets on the

1931
02:21:29,100 --> 02:21:31,100
west side of town where roads have

1932
02:21:31,100 --> 02:21:34,601
incomplete walkways and edges. It would

1933
02:21:38,100 --> 02:21:39,100
be miraculous to make improvements for

1934
02:21:39,100 --> 02:21:40,100
bicyclists and walkers on Central

1935
02:21:40,100 --> 02:21:42,100
Avenue NorthOf rail will drive and

1936
02:21:42,100 --> 02:21:46,201
north of Murray Road "railroad. I hope

1937
02:21:54,100 --> 02:21:55,100
there is still time to take a closer

1938
02:21:55,100 --> 02:21:56,100
look at improving existing assets in

1939
02:21:56,100 --> 02:21:57,100
McKinleyville and spend money there.

1940
02:21:57,100 --> 02:21:58,100
Thank you for the opportunity to

1941
02:21:58,100 --> 02:21:59,100
speak.

1942
02:21:59,100 --> 02:22:01,401
>>Thank you. Good morning.

1943
02:22:04,100 --> 02:22:05,100
>>In morning, chair, board members, my

1944
02:22:05,100 --> 02:22:06,100
name is Mary Burke, I am the current

1945
02:22:06,100 --> 02:22:07,100
chair of the municipal advisory

1946
02:22:07,100 --> 02:22:10,601
committee. As you heard, the draft

1947
02:22:11,100 --> 02:22:12,100
ordinance represents over five years of

1948
02:22:12,100 --> 02:22:15,601
public meetings and neck shirt "Lectures

1949
02:22:18,100 --> 02:22:21,100
And art recognizesLocal planners. I

1950
02:22:26,100 --> 02:22:27,100
want to call out and thank the

1951
02:22:27,100 --> 02:22:28,100
administrative support the county has

1952
02:22:28,100 --> 02:22:29,100
provided as well as of course Director

1953
02:22:29,100 --> 02:22:30,100
Ford's time and commitment to this

1954
02:22:30,100 --> 02:22:31,100
process. And I think the hope in the

1955
02:22:31,100 --> 02:22:34,100
vision with the ordinances thatOur

1956
02:22:34,100 --> 02:22:37,100
community have more abundant the

1957
02:22:39,100 --> 02:22:40,100
reverse successful housing in modern

1958
02:22:40,100 --> 02:22:41,100
town center that creates an environment

1959
02:22:41,100 --> 02:22:45,201
For all people, As a slave. I'm

1960
02:22:57,100 --> 02:22:58,100
bringing this for before you closer to

1961
02:22:58,100 --> 02:22:59,100
realizing that vision that you hear the

1962
02:22:59,100 --> 02:23:00,100
diversion views onCentral at Avenue

1963
02:23:00,100 --> 02:23:03,100
planning "Divergent. We need that

1964
02:23:15,100 --> 02:23:16,100
comprehensive study, not just for

1965
02:23:16,100 --> 02:23:17,100
circulation but multimodal access. On a

1966
02:23:17,100 --> 02:23:19,100
call out director Maxon's vision for

1967
02:23:19,100 --> 02:23:20,100
bringing forward what we are doing on

1968
02:23:20,100 --> 02:23:25,401
Hillard Road that you can go out and see

1969
02:23:26,100 --> 02:23:27,100
And how that traffic call me is

1970
02:23:27,100 --> 02:23:28,100
functioning, providing this vibrant

1971
02:23:28,100 --> 02:23:31,601
area that people will(INAUDIBLE) but

1972
02:23:35,100 --> 02:23:38,601
will enjoy passing through Miller Road.

1973
02:23:49,100 --> 02:23:50,100
Thank you for your consideration this

1974
02:23:50,100 --> 02:23:51,100
matter.

1975
02:23:51,100 --> 02:23:52,100
>>Thank you, good morning.

1976
02:23:52,100 --> 02:23:53,100
>>Good morning, Chair Bushnell, my name

1977
02:23:53,100 --> 02:23:54,100
is Maia Conrad. I've been a longtime

1978
02:23:54,100 --> 02:23:55,100
resident of McKinleyville and I've

1979
02:23:55,100 --> 02:23:59,801
turned on the Micmac for six years.I

1980
02:24:00,100 --> 02:24:01,100
want to thank Director John Ford and

1981
02:24:01,100 --> 02:24:02,100
all of his staff for the support and

1982
02:24:02,100 --> 02:24:05,601
dedication that they have had through

1983
02:24:07,100 --> 02:24:08,100
Holding her hands through so many

1984
02:24:08,100 --> 02:24:09,100
meetings on the Towncenter ordinance

1985
02:24:09,100 --> 02:24:11,100
and I also want to thank Director Madsen

1986
02:24:11,100 --> 02:24:12,100
And his crew, who are out on Saturday

1987
02:24:12,100 --> 02:24:14,401
and SundayHelping this community.

1988
02:24:21,100 --> 02:24:25,801
Project on Heller Road. Take a walk and

1989
02:24:30,100 --> 02:24:31,100
ride your bike and you can experience

1990
02:24:31,100 --> 02:24:32,100
what Hilliard feels like, which is a

1991
02:24:32,100 --> 02:24:33,100
nice prelude to what this town center

1992
02:24:33,100 --> 02:24:35,100
could be.

1993
02:24:36,100 --> 02:24:37,100
Now when we started this, we did a lot

1994
02:24:37,100 --> 02:24:38,100
of canvassing and there were so many

1995
02:24:38,100 --> 02:24:41,100
people who said we want a sense of

1996
02:24:41,100 --> 02:24:42,100
place, we want the heart of

1997
02:24:42,100 --> 02:24:45,100
McKinleyville and we want a place where

1998
02:24:45,100 --> 02:24:46,100
people feel safe, and is one public

1999
02:24:46,100 --> 02:24:48,100
speaker said, McKinleyville middle

2000
02:24:48,100 --> 02:24:52,201
school isIn the town center. With the

2001
02:24:55,100 --> 02:24:58,100
closing Morris we will get a lot more

2002
02:24:58,100 --> 02:25:02,201
Traffic of children. We wantKids to feel

2003
02:25:06,100 --> 02:25:11,401
Ready to walk and bike to school.As I

2004
02:25:13,100 --> 02:25:16,100
represented this community in this

2005
02:25:16,100 --> 02:25:20,801
endeavor for the last two years, and not

2006
02:25:24,100 --> 02:25:25,100
only looked at our community for today

2007
02:25:25,100 --> 02:25:26,100
but also our future generations and as

2008
02:25:26,100 --> 02:25:27,100
one public member said in the Micmac

2009
02:25:27,100 --> 02:25:28,100
meeting, they said please,Be brave and

2010
02:25:28,100 --> 02:25:31,601
voteOf the central Avenue Road diet.

2011
02:25:33,100 --> 02:25:36,601
Understands coping andI chose to be

2012
02:25:41,100 --> 02:25:42,100
brave and envision a really wonderful

2013
02:25:42,100 --> 02:25:43,100
heart of McKinley well for us in the

2014
02:25:43,100 --> 02:25:44,100
future. So thank you for considering

2015
02:25:44,100 --> 02:25:45,100
this

2016
02:25:45,100 --> 02:25:49,201
>>Thank you. Good morning.From a good

2017
02:25:59,100 --> 02:26:00,100
morning, my name is Colin Fisk,

2018
02:26:00,100 --> 02:26:01,100
Executive Director of C RTP in many of

2019
02:26:01,100 --> 02:26:02,100
our more than 850 members and

2020
02:26:02,100 --> 02:26:03,100
supporters are McKinleyville residence,

2021
02:26:03,100 --> 02:26:07,801
I will "We are deep full grateful "deeply

2022
02:26:12,100 --> 02:26:15,601
grateful to Director FordAnd the staff

2023
02:26:16,100 --> 02:26:19,601
and to supervisor Madrone without whom

2024
02:26:39,100 --> 02:26:40,100
I don't think this would've happened.

2025
02:26:40,100 --> 02:26:41,100
We are excited to see the town center

2026
02:26:41,100 --> 02:26:42,100
ordinance adopted and we encourage you

2027
02:26:42,100 --> 02:26:43,100
to adopt it as written. Regarding

2028
02:26:43,100 --> 02:26:44,100
Central, I've written down central many

2029
02:26:44,100 --> 02:26:45,100
times on my bike, car speeding past,

2030
02:26:45,100 --> 02:26:46,100
inches away, I've had to cross two

2031
02:26:46,100 --> 02:26:47,100
lanes of traffic, weight in the middle

2032
02:26:47,100 --> 02:26:48,100
of the street to make a left turn into

2033
02:26:48,100 --> 02:26:49,100
a business with cars and trucks

2034
02:26:49,100 --> 02:26:50,100
speeding by on both sides pulling up in

2035
02:26:50,100 --> 02:26:52,100
front of meOn that turn lane, I have

2036
02:26:52,100 --> 02:26:53,100
also crossed on foot many times and

2037
02:26:53,100 --> 02:26:54,100
been almost hit. It's really not a safe

2038
02:26:54,100 --> 02:26:55,100
and welcoming environment to be a

2039
02:26:55,100 --> 02:26:56,100
successful Towncenter some things have

2040
02:26:56,100 --> 02:26:59,100
to change. I do wish that the current

2041
02:26:59,100 --> 02:27:00,100
naysayers to join the processors

2042
02:27:00,100 --> 02:27:01,100
earlier because my experiences will

2043
02:27:01,100 --> 02:27:04,100
many of the folksWere skipped really

2044
02:27:04,100 --> 02:27:05,100
came around once they learn more. I

2045
02:27:05,100 --> 02:27:07,100
think the planning commission as you

2046
02:27:07,100 --> 02:27:08,100
know recommended adoption of the

2047
02:27:08,100 --> 02:27:11,601
ordinance, Just as the Micmac thenIs

2048
02:27:17,100 --> 02:27:18,100
Central Avenue changes regarding the

2049
02:27:18,100 --> 02:27:19,100
idea of a communitywide transportation

2050
02:27:19,100 --> 02:27:23,801
plan, we support that, but as you know

2051
02:27:28,100 --> 02:27:29,100
there's currently no money for it and

2052
02:27:29,100 --> 02:27:30,100
would take years to develop and I think

2053
02:27:30,100 --> 02:27:31,100
it's important for the county not tie

2054
02:27:31,100 --> 02:27:32,100
his hands in the meantime so we ask

2055
02:27:32,100 --> 02:27:33,100
that if you move for the communitywide

2056
02:27:33,100 --> 02:27:34,100
plan that you take it the action

2057
02:27:34,100 --> 02:27:37,100
separately or making contingent on

2058
02:27:39,100 --> 02:27:40,100
anything in the town center ordinance.

2059
02:27:40,100 --> 02:27:43,601
We strongly urge youThe ordinance is

2060
02:27:44,100 --> 02:27:45,100
written including the changes. Thank

2061
02:27:45,100 --> 02:27:47,100
you.

2062
02:27:53,100 --> 02:27:54,100
>>Thank you. Good morning, ma'am. My

2063
02:27:54,100 --> 02:27:58,801
name is Jack will hand in the accident

2064
02:28:00,100 --> 02:28:01,100
And I have been a resident since the

2065
02:28:01,100 --> 02:28:05,100
1980s.The two lanes in each direction,

2066
02:28:05,100 --> 02:28:08,100
the visible by claimImproves accessTo

2067
02:28:17,100 --> 02:28:18,100
the taxpayers. Due to heavy traffic

2068
02:28:18,100 --> 02:28:19,100
Caltrans has advised against reducing

2069
02:28:19,100 --> 02:28:20,100
the number of lanes. It's difficult to

2070
02:28:20,100 --> 02:28:21,100
cross the street if you are driving

2071
02:28:21,100 --> 02:28:23,100
your car and someone is going across

2072
02:28:23,100 --> 02:28:26,100
the street and you want to make a

2073
02:28:26,100 --> 02:28:29,601
right-hand turn, you back traffic up

2074
02:28:33,100 --> 02:28:34,100
Waiting even on a green light. So by

2075
02:28:34,100 --> 02:28:35,100
cutting it down there will be no wait

2076
02:28:35,100 --> 02:28:36,100
for a person to keep on going straight

2077
02:28:36,100 --> 02:28:39,100
throughIf someone is trying to make a

2078
02:28:39,100 --> 02:28:40,100
right-hand turn, will back the traffic

2079
02:28:40,100 --> 02:28:43,601
up even further.Additionally with the

2080
02:28:52,100 --> 02:28:53,100
plans to attract more elderly residents

2081
02:28:53,100 --> 02:28:54,100
to the town center, fewer lanes can

2082
02:28:54,100 --> 02:28:55,100
obstruct emergency vehicles, creating

2083
02:28:55,100 --> 02:28:56,100
hazards for those who need assistance

2084
02:28:56,100 --> 02:28:59,100
which would be a death trap. This

2085
02:28:59,100 --> 02:29:00,100
change doesn't benefit McKinleyville

2086
02:29:00,100 --> 02:29:03,100
residents workers or business owners,

2087
02:29:04,100 --> 02:29:05,100
It's unclear who will profit but it's

2088
02:29:05,100 --> 02:29:07,100
definitely not the taxpayers, thank you.

2089
02:29:07,100 --> 02:29:11,801
>>Thank you. Good morning.I saw you on

2090
02:29:12,100 --> 02:29:13,100
the news this morning.

2091
02:29:13,100 --> 02:29:14,100
[LAUGHING]

2092
02:29:14,100 --> 02:29:16,401
>>Yes,Deborah (INAUDIBLE), concerned

2093
02:29:33,100 --> 02:29:34,100
citizen. I know McKinleyville has to

2094
02:29:34,100 --> 02:29:35,100
change and will continue to change. I

2095
02:29:35,100 --> 02:29:36,100
do think the road diet would be a poor

2096
02:29:36,100 --> 02:29:37,100
decision for McKinley bill. John Ford

2097
02:29:37,100 --> 02:29:38,100
stated there be two lanes and a turn

2098
02:29:38,100 --> 02:29:39,100
lane. The turn lane is only good for

2099
02:29:39,100 --> 02:29:40,100
turning left, it doesn't help traffic

2100
02:29:40,100 --> 02:29:41,100
making right-hand turns. Merging into

2101
02:29:41,100 --> 02:29:44,100
the trafficFrom a side road would be

2102
02:29:44,100 --> 02:29:45,100
difficult if not impossible causing

2103
02:29:45,100 --> 02:29:46,100
frustration and stupid actions that

2104
02:29:46,100 --> 02:29:50,100
lead to accidents. If youFacts, it is

2105
02:29:50,100 --> 02:29:51,100
stated there were 17,000 people living

2106
02:29:51,100 --> 02:29:54,601
inMac,12,000 people travel from the US

2107
02:30:03,100 --> 02:30:04,100
101 exchange throughout the day and a

2108
02:30:04,100 --> 02:30:07,601
24 hour period. 83% of people use their

2109
02:30:11,100 --> 02:30:12,100
cars on a daily basis. There's a 20

2110
02:30:12,100 --> 02:30:13,100
foot public utility easement on the

2111
02:30:13,100 --> 02:30:14,100
easterly side that could be better

2112
02:30:14,100 --> 02:30:15,100
utilized. It did not recommend for

2113
02:30:15,100 --> 02:30:18,601
reduction for Central Avenue but a

2114
02:30:19,100 --> 02:30:20,100
multiuse trail. We only have more

2115
02:30:20,100 --> 02:30:23,100
people in cars, peopleWould createTo

2116
02:30:25,100 --> 02:30:28,601
design "Had to handle heavy traffic.

2117
02:31:06,100 --> 02:31:07,100
There used to be more money put in the

2118
02:31:07,100 --> 02:31:08,100
infrastructure. The keep saying this

2119
02:31:08,100 --> 02:31:09,100
could take 20 years. If they get

2120
02:31:09,100 --> 02:31:10,100
funding it could happen sooner. We feel

2121
02:31:10,100 --> 02:31:11,100
we haven't been heard through this

2122
02:31:11,100 --> 02:31:12,100
process. We get two or three minutes to

2123
02:31:12,100 --> 02:31:13,100
voice our concerns or ask questions

2124
02:31:13,100 --> 02:31:14,100
which we don't get any feedback on.

2125
02:31:14,100 --> 02:31:15,100
They say they have had public workshops

2126
02:31:15,100 --> 02:31:16,100
but in the beginning it was turned

2127
02:31:16,100 --> 02:31:17,100
COVID. In closing I urge the board to

2128
02:31:17,100 --> 02:31:18,100
vote to keep Central Avenue as it is

2129
02:31:18,100 --> 02:31:19,100
currently four lanes and in turn lane

2130
02:31:19,100 --> 02:31:20,100
with McKinleyville being the in the

2131
02:31:20,100 --> 02:31:21,100
county, if incorporated the County

2132
02:31:21,100 --> 02:31:22,100
would be the second largest in the

2133
02:31:22,100 --> 02:31:23,100
county, maybe it's time for us to

2134
02:31:23,100 --> 02:31:24,100
incorporate.

2135
02:31:24,100 --> 02:31:25,100
>>Thank you.Good morning, sir.

2136
02:31:25,100 --> 02:31:26,100
>>Good morning, board, impact Asari,

2137
02:31:26,100 --> 02:31:29,601
resident of McKinleyville, I am also

2138
02:31:32,100 --> 02:31:33,100
the general manager of community

2139
02:31:33,100 --> 02:31:34,100
services District and a member of

2140
02:31:34,100 --> 02:31:35,100
Micmac. I have been authorized to speak

2141
02:31:35,100 --> 02:31:36,100
on behalf of the district in support of

2142
02:31:36,100 --> 02:31:37,100
the ordinance. The Humboldt County

2143
02:31:37,100 --> 02:31:38,100
planning department staff particularly

2144
02:31:38,100 --> 02:31:39,100
Director Ford have accomplished an

2145
02:31:39,100 --> 02:31:40,100
exceptional task and working with the

2146
02:31:40,100 --> 02:31:43,601
MicmacAnd the community to prepare an

2147
02:31:44,100 --> 02:31:45,100
extremely well-crafted town center

2148
02:31:45,100 --> 02:31:46,100
ordinance. The Townsend ordinance don't

2149
02:31:46,100 --> 02:31:47,100
will not only benefit guide

2150
02:31:47,100 --> 02:31:48,100
McKinleyville's town center to turn it

2151
02:31:48,100 --> 02:31:49,100
into a destination spot but will be an

2152
02:31:49,100 --> 02:31:52,601
asset for Humboldt County with improved

2153
02:32:11,100 --> 02:32:12,100
housing, community and business

2154
02:32:12,100 --> 02:32:13,100
facilities. The ordinance facilitates

2155
02:32:13,100 --> 02:32:14,100
the installation of pedestrian and

2156
02:32:14,100 --> 02:32:15,100
bicycle infrastructure that will make

2157
02:32:15,100 --> 02:32:16,100
killer and Central Avenue much safer

2158
02:32:16,100 --> 02:32:17,100
and facilitates trail networks in

2159
02:32:17,100 --> 02:32:18,100
McKinleyville and directs the

2160
02:32:18,100 --> 02:32:19,100
improvement of wetlands to make them a

2161
02:32:19,100 --> 02:32:20,100
source of improved habitat for wildlife

2162
02:32:20,100 --> 02:32:21,100
in public and facilitates homes and

2163
02:32:21,100 --> 02:32:22,100
workspaces versus promoting ordinance

2164
02:32:22,100 --> 02:32:23,100
for level impact undeveloped areas

2165
02:32:23,100 --> 02:32:24,100
throughout the county.I will jump

2166
02:32:24,100 --> 02:32:25,100
ahead, the district has concerns about

2167
02:32:25,100 --> 02:32:26,100
the road diet given that the potential

2168
02:32:26,100 --> 02:32:29,601
impacts to theDistricts water sewer and

2169
02:32:34,100 --> 02:32:35,100
streetlight infrastructure have yet to

2170
02:32:35,100 --> 02:32:36,100
be analyzed, the planning commission

2171
02:32:36,100 --> 02:32:37,100
made an excellent recommendation that

2172
02:32:37,100 --> 02:32:38,100
the McKinleyville wide sanity be

2173
02:32:38,100 --> 02:32:39,100
Conducted in the road diet be reviewed

2174
02:32:39,100 --> 02:32:42,100
prior to implementation, MCSE should

2175
02:32:44,100 --> 02:32:48,801
also be included in the design review to

2176
02:32:53,100 --> 02:32:54,100
maintain the work on infrastructure

2177
02:32:54,100 --> 02:32:55,100
safely. The McKinleyville community

2178
02:32:55,100 --> 02:32:56,100
services District urges the board to

2179
02:32:56,100 --> 02:32:57,100
certified the EIR and adopt the town

2180
02:32:57,100 --> 02:32:58,100
center as written.

2181
02:32:58,100 --> 02:33:00,401
>>Thank you. Good morning.

2182
02:33:07,100 --> 02:33:08,100
>>Hello. I'm Michelle burst Donnie, 46

2183
02:33:08,100 --> 02:33:09,100
year resident of McKinleyville, city

2184
02:33:09,100 --> 02:33:10,100
center, homeowner, a CPA and on the CPA

2185
02:33:10,100 --> 02:33:13,601
business in McKinleyvilleAnd I am also

2186
02:33:15,100 --> 02:33:16,100
a past director of McKinleyville

2187
02:33:16,100 --> 02:33:17,100
community services District. I see two

2188
02:33:17,100 --> 02:33:18,100
things wrong with this ordinance.

2189
02:33:18,100 --> 02:33:21,100
Number one, it is writtenMinisterial,

2190
02:33:32,100 --> 02:33:33,100
and if it's approved the public will no

2191
02:33:33,100 --> 02:33:34,100
longer have a say in what happens in

2192
02:33:34,100 --> 02:33:35,100
McKinleyville's town center. This is

2193
02:33:35,100 --> 02:33:36,100
not only unacceptable but it's also

2194
02:33:36,100 --> 02:33:37,100
undemocratic. I think it needs to be

2195
02:33:37,100 --> 02:33:38,100
rewritten. Number two is the road and

2196
02:33:38,100 --> 02:33:42,201
Central Avenue does not needA diet. And

2197
02:33:46,100 --> 02:33:47,100
does not need to go from 5 to 2 lanes.

2198
02:33:47,100 --> 02:33:48,100
The 2013 traffic study showed 15,000

2199
02:33:48,100 --> 02:33:49,100
cards you Central Avenue every day.

2200
02:33:49,100 --> 02:33:52,601
Then using that information, the Micmac

2201
02:33:58,100 --> 02:33:59,100
Work tirelessly with residents,

2202
02:33:59,100 --> 02:34:00,100
business owners, and transportation

2203
02:34:00,100 --> 02:34:01,100
professionals to design the central

2204
02:34:01,100 --> 02:34:04,601
AvenueSafety quarter that we have today.

2205
02:34:16,100 --> 02:34:17,100
The County design ADA assessable road

2206
02:34:17,100 --> 02:34:18,100
crossings in every single crosswalk.

2207
02:34:18,100 --> 02:34:19,100
Every crosswalk at stop lights that can

2208
02:34:19,100 --> 02:34:23,801
beTime to slow down traffic. It was a

2209
02:34:24,100 --> 02:34:25,100
thoughtful community driven process

2210
02:34:25,100 --> 02:34:26,100
aimed at improving safety and traffic

2211
02:34:26,100 --> 02:34:27,100
flow for everyone.In the 10 years since

2212
02:34:27,100 --> 02:34:29,100
his completionThisShow (INAUDIBLE)

2213
02:34:40,100 --> 02:34:41,100
along the entire Central Avenue.

2214
02:34:41,100 --> 02:34:42,100
Changes in violence in two lanes. Given

2215
02:34:42,100 --> 02:34:45,601
the fact that it seems prudentAnd

2216
02:34:46,100 --> 02:34:47,100
fiscally responsible to preserve or

2217
02:34:47,100 --> 02:34:51,201
expand the five lanes and already have,

2218
02:34:54,100 --> 02:34:55,100
Please do not pass this ordinance for

2219
02:34:55,100 --> 02:34:56,100
can make Central Avenue less safe and

2220
02:34:56,100 --> 02:34:58,100
youPeer

2221
02:35:02,100 --> 02:35:04,401
>>Thank you. Good morning.

2222
02:35:13,100 --> 02:35:14,100
>>Good morning, my name is Judy

2223
02:35:14,100 --> 02:35:15,100
Hodgson, I was a reporter for more than

2224
02:35:15,100 --> 02:35:16,100
40 years in Humboldt CountyBefore I

2225
02:35:16,100 --> 02:35:19,601
retiredFive or six years ago completely.

2226
02:35:25,100 --> 02:35:26,100
I covered the Board of Supervisors, the

2227
02:35:26,100 --> 02:35:27,100
planning commission, the McKinleyville

2228
02:35:27,100 --> 02:35:29,100
services District and the years, want

2229
02:35:29,100 --> 02:35:30,100
to take you back farther than 2015. I

2230
02:35:30,100 --> 02:35:32,401
coveredThese organizations during the

2231
02:35:34,100 --> 02:35:37,601
time that Central AvenueWas built, And

2232
02:35:39,100 --> 02:35:43,100
there was a lot ofOpposition at the

2233
02:35:43,100 --> 02:35:46,100
time to some of the things, And they're

2234
02:35:46,100 --> 02:35:49,100
just like your hearing today.There's a

2235
02:35:49,100 --> 02:35:53,100
lot of good in that plan.The

2236
02:35:53,100 --> 02:35:54,100
underground utilities, the landscaping,

2237
02:35:54,100 --> 02:35:56,100
the, A lot of things are good about

2238
02:35:56,100 --> 02:36:00,801
that plan.It was always of bad design,

2239
02:36:04,100 --> 02:36:05,100
the five lane highway. It is so huge.

2240
02:36:05,100 --> 02:36:09,201
It is difficultTo cross even, it just

2241
02:36:10,100 --> 02:36:15,100
takes time to get across that, it is not

2242
02:36:15,100 --> 02:36:16,100
pedestrian friendly, was bad design

2243
02:36:16,100 --> 02:36:20,100
then and we have enough opportunity now

2244
02:36:20,100 --> 02:36:21,100
, I never thought we would see this, we

2245
02:36:21,100 --> 02:36:22,100
have an opportunity now to correct

2246
02:36:22,100 --> 02:36:26,201
somethingMaybe we didn't do a great job

2247
02:36:29,100 --> 02:36:30,100
on last time. They even took out the

2248
02:36:30,100 --> 02:36:31,100
beautiful cypress trees in those days

2249
02:36:31,100 --> 02:36:32,100
that were traffic calming and they were

2250
02:36:32,100 --> 02:36:33,100
lovely.

2251
02:36:33,100 --> 02:36:36,601
Anyway, some of the, Okay, 31 seconds,

2252
02:36:37,100 --> 02:36:40,100
I can do this.What I want you to think

2253
02:36:40,100 --> 02:36:44,801
about today, I am the one that asked

2254
02:36:47,100 --> 02:36:52,401
the Micmac to be brave and to prove it.

2255
02:36:56,100 --> 02:36:57,100
I am impressed that the McKinleyville

2256
02:36:57,100 --> 02:36:58,100
services District is backing this

2257
02:36:58,100 --> 02:36:59,100
thing. Mansion means something to you.

2258
02:36:59,100 --> 02:37:02,100
On one sideI have people in cars that

2259
02:37:02,100 --> 02:37:03,100
are protected. On the other side of

2260
02:37:03,100 --> 02:37:06,100
people in Walker'sThis others with

2261
02:37:08,100 --> 02:37:10,100
bikes going to school. I asked you to,

2262
02:37:10,100 --> 02:37:13,100
I am in the favor.

2263
02:37:25,100 --> 02:37:26,100
>>Hi, good morning. Permit good

2264
02:37:26,100 --> 02:37:27,100
morning, Board of Supervisors. I have

2265
02:37:27,100 --> 02:37:28,100
been before you in the past wearing

2266
02:37:28,100 --> 02:37:32,201
different hats. I was a department head,

2267
02:37:33,100 --> 02:37:34,100
I decide on Micmac into of the years

2268
02:37:34,100 --> 02:37:35,100
we have been in town soon

2269
02:37:35,100 --> 02:37:38,601
deliberations. My town isSons saying by

2270
02:37:41,100 --> 02:37:42,100
choice. I am inviting us on the board

2271
02:37:42,100 --> 02:37:43,100
of the foundation and so speaking to

2272
02:37:43,100 --> 02:37:46,601
you today.Our foundation serves the

2273
02:38:01,100 --> 02:38:03,401
Residence in McKinleyvilleAnd remain

2274
02:38:08,100 --> 02:38:09,100
dedicated to public benefit. The

2275
02:38:09,100 --> 02:38:10,100
foundation supports the ordinance

2276
02:38:10,100 --> 02:38:11,100
before you today as recommended by the

2277
02:38:11,100 --> 02:38:12,100
McKinleyville municipal advisory

2278
02:38:12,100 --> 02:38:15,100
committee. This ordinance is the

2279
02:38:15,100 --> 02:38:16,100
product of balancing many years of

2280
02:38:16,100 --> 02:38:18,401
public input, Professional urban

2281
02:38:20,100 --> 02:38:21,100
planning expertise, and careful

2282
02:38:21,100 --> 02:38:24,100
deliberation, And it reflects the

2283
02:38:33,100 --> 02:38:34,100
vision for the town center that

2284
02:38:34,100 --> 02:38:35,100
balances housing, services, open-space

2285
02:38:35,100 --> 02:38:36,100
and ecological stewardship. I'm going

2286
02:38:36,100 --> 02:38:37,100
cut out a paragraph in the interest of

2287
02:38:37,100 --> 02:38:38,100
time. We urge you to adopt the

2288
02:38:38,100 --> 02:38:41,601
ordinance as recommended by the Micmac,

2289
02:38:47,100 --> 02:38:48,100
Confident that it honors the community

2290
02:38:48,100 --> 02:38:49,100
process, protects natural resources and

2291
02:38:49,100 --> 02:38:50,100
provides us teamwork for health is a

2292
02:38:50,100 --> 02:38:52,100
sustainable(INAUDIBLE)

2293
02:39:20,100 --> 02:39:21,100
>>You have 30 seconds left.

2294
02:39:21,100 --> 02:39:22,100
>>We believe 6.4 achieves the right

2295
02:39:22,100 --> 02:39:23,100
balance by requiring that wetlands be

2296
02:39:23,100 --> 02:39:24,100
protected in place or where appropriate

2297
02:39:24,100 --> 02:39:25,100
relocated under the safeguards of

2298
02:39:25,100 --> 02:39:26,100
county state and federal regulations.

2299
02:39:26,100 --> 02:39:27,100
This flexibility combined with strong

2300
02:39:27,100 --> 02:39:28,100
oversight ensures protection and a bra

2301
02:39:28,100 --> 02:39:29,100
a vibrant walkable place where people

2302
02:39:29,100 --> 02:39:30,100
can live, work, and play. Thank you.

2303
02:39:30,100 --> 02:39:31,100
Perfect timing.

2304
02:39:31,100 --> 02:39:32,100
>>Hello there.

2305
02:39:32,100 --> 02:39:33,100
>>Good morning.Supervisor BushnellAnd

2306
02:39:33,100 --> 02:39:35,100
the team.My concerns about Central

2307
02:39:35,100 --> 02:39:39,201
Avenue.And duties angling.I would write

2308
02:39:49,100 --> 02:39:50,100
a track with the trailer, I pull

2309
02:39:50,100 --> 02:39:52,100
recycling andI don't know what else to

2310
02:39:52,100 --> 02:39:56,801
say butTo John and Tom Madsen, they are

2311
02:39:59,100 --> 02:40:02,100
doing the perfect job, butPlease,

2312
02:40:07,100 --> 02:40:08,100
Consideration not to put the two lanes

2313
02:40:08,100 --> 02:40:09,100
in. Thank you and have a great day.

2314
02:40:09,100 --> 02:40:10,100
>>Thank you.Good morning.

2315
02:40:10,100 --> 02:40:14,201
>>In morning, thank you for taking the

2316
02:40:17,100 --> 02:40:18,100
time to hear us. My name is Nicole

2317
02:40:18,100 --> 02:40:21,100
Thomas, I have been a lifelong resident

2318
02:40:21,100 --> 02:40:24,601
of McKinleyville since 1975.I think a

2319
02:40:34,100 --> 02:40:35,100
lot of us who have been there for a

2320
02:40:35,100 --> 02:40:36,100
long time, changes in the issue, we

2321
02:40:36,100 --> 02:40:37,100
have seen a lot of change over time, we

2322
02:40:37,100 --> 02:40:38,100
have had to. When suburbia came in, I

2323
02:40:38,100 --> 02:40:39,100
believe it was a reason for the four

2324
02:40:39,100 --> 02:40:43,801
lanes, And as a parent, I have chosen

2325
02:40:49,100 --> 02:40:50,100
to stay in McKinleyville and raise my

2326
02:40:50,100 --> 02:40:51,100
child there. We have five schools, if

2327
02:40:51,100 --> 02:40:54,100
you include McKinleyville, excuse me,

2328
02:40:59,100 --> 02:41:00,100
mad River high school, we have a lot of

2329
02:41:00,100 --> 02:41:01,100
parents bring their children daily to

2330
02:41:01,100 --> 02:41:02,100
school, picking them up from school,

2331
02:41:02,100 --> 02:41:03,100
taking in the practice, to games, the

2332
02:41:03,100 --> 02:41:07,100
impact of going from four lanes to two

2333
02:41:07,100 --> 02:41:08,100
lanes would absolutely make things less

2334
02:41:08,100 --> 02:41:09,100
safe in my opinion. There are so many

2335
02:41:09,100 --> 02:41:12,601
carsCertain times of day. I know

2336
02:41:15,100 --> 02:41:16,100
sometimes a day there are not, but as

2337
02:41:16,100 --> 02:41:20,201
was mentioned, Sutter Road is very busy

2338
02:41:29,100 --> 02:41:30,100
. It's almost as if there is a light

2339
02:41:30,100 --> 02:41:31,100
down by Azalea, the amount of cars that

2340
02:41:31,100 --> 02:41:32,100
just flow, it's like they all got a

2341
02:41:32,100 --> 02:41:33,100
green light and they're all coming.

2342
02:41:33,100 --> 02:41:34,100
It's constant. I've seen the backup up

2343
02:41:34,100 --> 02:41:38,201
to Bella Vista hero. There is(INAUDIBLE)

2344
02:41:42,100 --> 02:41:43,100
All lanes are full most of the time.

2345
02:41:43,100 --> 02:41:47,801
I've heard from my FedEx driver, my son

2346
02:41:50,100 --> 02:41:51,100
gets medication that is delivered once

2347
02:41:51,100 --> 02:41:52,100
a month and she said central Avenue is

2348
02:41:52,100 --> 02:41:53,100
the busiest street in Humboldt County.

2349
02:41:53,100 --> 02:41:57,100
Period.A current traffic study I think

2350
02:41:57,100 --> 02:42:01,201
is vital, Maybe a broader traffic study

2351
02:42:03,100 --> 02:42:04,100
the taking into consideration the

2352
02:42:04,100 --> 02:42:07,601
amount of parents, The movement that

2353
02:42:08,100 --> 02:42:12,201
happens in that time. The expansion of

2354
02:42:13,100 --> 02:42:14,100
Sidewalks is great, there's a lot of

2355
02:42:14,100 --> 02:42:15,100
great ideas but keep four lanes, do not

2356
02:42:15,100 --> 02:42:17,100
reduce to two.

2357
02:42:18,100 --> 02:42:20,401
>>Thank you. Good morning.

2358
02:42:23,100 --> 02:42:24,100
>>In morning. My name is Bonnie

2359
02:42:24,100 --> 02:42:26,100
McGregor, I am a resident of

2360
02:42:26,100 --> 02:42:28,401
McKinleyville for 20 yearsAnd have

2361
02:42:31,100 --> 02:42:32,100
participated in trying to get the

2362
02:42:32,100 --> 02:42:36,100
ordinance to even be discussed, so I am

2363
02:42:36,100 --> 02:42:40,201
very grateful it's gotten this far and

2364
02:42:41,100 --> 02:42:42,100
thank you, supervisor Madrone, for

2365
02:42:42,100 --> 02:42:43,100
bringing it forward and thank you to

2366
02:42:43,100 --> 02:42:44,100
John Ford and his staff for all the

2367
02:42:44,100 --> 02:42:46,100
work that's been done. I want to talk

2368
02:42:46,100 --> 02:42:50,201
about something else. I was waiting to

2369
02:42:51,100 --> 02:42:52,100
the end of the comments about Central

2370
02:42:52,100 --> 02:42:55,100
Avenue becauseThis ordinance is the

2371
02:42:55,100 --> 02:42:58,100
last time that the citizens of

2372
02:42:58,100 --> 02:43:01,100
McKinleyville will have any say,

2373
02:43:05,100 --> 02:43:06,100
Officially, about what happens to the

2374
02:43:06,100 --> 02:43:07,100
future of our town, and that sense of

2375
02:43:07,100 --> 02:43:10,100
placeIs very important to a lot of

2376
02:43:10,100 --> 02:43:11,100
people. We reflect many different

2377
02:43:11,100 --> 02:43:15,201
attributesOf who this place is, and to

2378
02:43:21,100 --> 02:43:22,100
me, one of the most important things is

2379
02:43:22,100 --> 02:43:23,100
that we have a space, we have enough

2380
02:43:23,100 --> 02:43:24,100
open space where we can come together

2381
02:43:24,100 --> 02:43:27,100
and experience thatIn the built

2382
02:43:28,100 --> 02:43:29,100
environment. Central Avenue is always

2383
02:43:29,100 --> 02:43:33,100
going to go through the center of town,

2384
02:43:33,100 --> 02:43:34,100
No matter how fast it's going, it's

2385
02:43:34,100 --> 02:43:39,401
just a fact in Pearson Park is on the

2386
02:43:40,100 --> 02:43:41,100
east side, you can't see it from

2387
02:43:41,100 --> 02:43:42,100
Central Avenue, and that's our civic

2388
02:43:42,100 --> 02:43:43,100
area, but the built space on the west

2389
02:43:43,100 --> 02:43:45,100
side, which now will be on the and

2390
02:43:45,100 --> 02:43:47,401
Pearson foundation landIs designated

2391
02:43:49,100 --> 02:43:52,100
only 20,000 ft. minimumAs the mandated

2392
02:43:59,100 --> 02:44:00,100
Public space. I'm asking you to put it

2393
02:44:00,100 --> 02:44:01,100
in, change the ordinance to say at

2394
02:44:01,100 --> 02:44:04,100
least an acre. I have a felt sense of

2395
02:44:04,100 --> 02:44:05,100
the difference between 1/2 acre and an

2396
02:44:05,100 --> 02:44:09,201
acreAndLiving in a rural area I think

2397
02:44:13,100 --> 02:44:14,100
you all do too. So to have a sense and

2398
02:44:14,100 --> 02:44:18,201
build it around, Because the space has

2399
02:44:23,100 --> 02:44:24,100
to be determined before the project

2400
02:44:24,100 --> 02:44:25,100
goes forward if we only have 1/2 acre

2401
02:44:25,100 --> 02:44:26,100
it will never be more. So thank you.

2402
02:44:26,100 --> 02:44:27,100
>>Thank you.Hi Matt, welcome.

2403
02:44:27,100 --> 02:44:31,201
>>Hi, I am Twyla Sanchez and currently

2404
02:44:33,100 --> 02:44:38,401
sit on the Micmac, And I have lived in

2405
02:44:39,100 --> 02:44:43,201
McKinleyville my whole life, And I just

2406
02:44:44,100 --> 02:44:45,100
kind of want to stick up for the Micmac

2407
02:44:45,100 --> 02:44:49,201
a little bit. I know myself, We

2408
02:44:50,100 --> 02:44:52,100
received a lot of letters, a lot of

2409
02:44:52,100 --> 02:44:56,100
people came to the MicmacTo voice their

2410
02:44:56,100 --> 02:44:58,100
opinions on many parts of the town

2411
02:44:58,100 --> 02:45:02,201
center, And the letters were read, the

2412
02:45:04,100 --> 02:45:08,801
emails were readAnd what I did was I

2413
02:45:11,100 --> 02:45:12,100
highlighted what I thought was their

2414
02:45:12,100 --> 02:45:16,100
main pointsAnd I did give people who

2415
02:45:16,100 --> 02:45:19,100
live in McKinleyvilleA little more

2416
02:45:21,100 --> 02:45:22,100
priority than people who wrote letters

2417
02:45:22,100 --> 02:45:24,100
who lived in other areasThat shopped in

2418
02:45:24,100 --> 02:45:27,100
McKinleyville, say,And it's pretty

2419
02:45:32,100 --> 02:45:33,100
50/50, we are pretty much split on this

2420
02:45:33,100 --> 02:45:37,801
issueI was one of those that opposed it

2421
02:45:39,100 --> 02:45:43,100
and then IAfter reading all the letters

2422
02:45:43,100 --> 02:45:46,601
and listening to the commentsI did

2423
02:45:51,100 --> 02:45:52,100
change my mind and the main thing was

2424
02:45:52,100 --> 02:45:53,100
safety. I heard safety, safety, safety,

2425
02:45:53,100 --> 02:45:55,100
peopleWalking along there, are riding

2426
02:45:55,100 --> 02:45:58,100
their bikes along Central Avenue do not

2427
02:45:58,100 --> 02:46:01,100
feel safe, and a lot of people don't

2428
02:46:01,100 --> 02:46:04,100
ride their bikes in the green space,

2429
02:46:04,100 --> 02:46:09,401
there up on the sidewalks.And I am just

2430
02:46:10,100 --> 02:46:11,100
really happy that McKinleyville is

2431
02:46:11,100 --> 02:46:14,601
getting the humble commonsAnd though we

2432
02:46:15,100 --> 02:46:18,100
are housing programs in McKinleyville,

2433
02:46:20,100 --> 02:46:21,100
I think that's two great things for

2434
02:46:21,100 --> 02:46:24,100
McKinleyvilleAnd my biggest issue is

2435
02:46:28,100 --> 02:46:29,100
open space, I don't think we have

2436
02:46:29,100 --> 02:46:30,100
allotted enough open space in the town

2437
02:46:30,100 --> 02:46:34,201
center. This was supposed to be the

2438
02:46:35,100 --> 02:46:36,100
heart.

2439
02:46:36,100 --> 02:46:37,100
>>I'm sorry, ma'am, your time. Thank

2440
02:46:37,100 --> 02:46:41,201
you so much. Hi. Good morning. If

2441
02:46:43,100 --> 02:46:44,100
you're going to make a public comment

2442
02:46:44,100 --> 02:46:45,100
and you're still sitting in the

2443
02:46:45,100 --> 02:46:46,100
audience, if you could line up diet we

2444
02:46:46,100 --> 02:46:47,100
would appreciate that.

2445
02:46:47,100 --> 02:46:48,100
>>Julie Wilkerson, a lifelong resident

2446
02:46:48,100 --> 02:46:51,100
and a business ownerIn McKinleyville

2447
02:46:53,100 --> 02:46:54,100
and I move my business there because I

2448
02:46:54,100 --> 02:46:55,100
was so excited about the potential of

2449
02:46:55,100 --> 02:46:58,100
that communityHow many people have

2450
02:46:58,100 --> 02:47:01,100
unfortunately had not so pleasant

2451
02:47:04,100 --> 02:47:05,100
things to think about it, I think

2452
02:47:05,100 --> 02:47:06,100
McKinleyville is a great place, I shop

2453
02:47:06,100 --> 02:47:09,601
there, I still findThe new projectsIn

2454
02:47:10,100 --> 02:47:13,601
the life plan humble, very exciting

2455
02:47:15,100 --> 02:47:16,100
projects but there are many things

2456
02:47:16,100 --> 02:47:19,100
going on that are about community and I

2457
02:47:19,100 --> 02:47:20,100
urge you to go ahead with this, there's

2458
02:47:20,100 --> 02:47:21,100
been a lot of community input,More than

2459
02:47:21,100 --> 02:47:24,601
any situation I can remember in

2460
02:47:25,100 --> 02:47:26,100
Humboldt County and the wonderful thing

2461
02:47:26,100 --> 02:47:30,201
is is it is about building community

2462
02:47:37,100 --> 02:47:38,100
and keeping people safe and what could

2463
02:47:38,100 --> 02:47:39,100
be more important than that? I hope

2464
02:47:39,100 --> 02:47:40,100
that you move forward and support all

2465
02:47:40,100 --> 02:47:41,100
the work that's been done. Thanks.

2466
02:47:41,100 --> 02:47:42,100
>>Thank you. Good morning, sir.

2467
02:47:42,100 --> 02:47:44,100
>>In morning. Randy some burden.

2468
02:47:44,100 --> 02:47:46,100
Fourth-generationMcKinleyvilleResident.

2469
02:47:52,100 --> 02:47:56,801
I am an expert holding people up in

2470
02:47:59,100 --> 02:48:00,100
traffic situations. I would offer up to

2471
02:48:00,100 --> 02:48:01,100
you folks the same thing offered the

2472
02:48:01,100 --> 02:48:04,100
planning commission. When we recently

2473
02:48:04,100 --> 02:48:07,601
did a water line projectFor the

2474
02:48:10,100 --> 02:48:11,100
McKinleyville services District, we had

2475
02:48:11,100 --> 02:48:13,401
more complaintsComing through our

2476
02:48:15,100 --> 02:48:16,100
office about reducing Central Avenue

2477
02:48:16,100 --> 02:48:19,100
down to one laneDuring our

2478
02:48:21,100 --> 02:48:22,100
construction. Then other any other job

2479
02:48:22,100 --> 02:48:23,100
I have ever had, so I would like to

2480
02:48:23,100 --> 02:48:27,201
offer upTwo, three, four, five, days of

2481
02:48:35,100 --> 02:48:36,100
traffic control so you guys can see

2482
02:48:36,100 --> 02:48:37,100
what it looks like. We had traffic

2483
02:48:37,100 --> 02:48:38,100
backed up over Bella Vista and on the

2484
02:48:38,100 --> 02:48:40,100
north end of McKinleyville as well.I

2485
02:48:40,100 --> 02:48:43,100
would hate to see this thing Central

2486
02:48:43,100 --> 02:48:47,100
Avenue is already two lanes at one time

2487
02:48:47,100 --> 02:48:48,100
and I feel like we are going backwards

2488
02:48:48,100 --> 02:48:49,100
if we voted for it. Thank you.

2489
02:48:49,100 --> 02:48:52,100
>>Thank you.Good morning, sir.

2490
02:48:57,100 --> 02:48:58,100
>>Good morning, Tim Wood,

2491
02:48:58,100 --> 02:49:01,601
McKinleyville. On echo what Randy said.

2492
02:49:07,100 --> 02:49:08,100
And what Greg Orsini said, may be

2493
02:49:08,100 --> 02:49:09,100
separate this process out because most

2494
02:49:09,100 --> 02:49:10,100
people are kind of in favor of the town

2495
02:49:10,100 --> 02:49:11,100
center. Life plan Humboldt, all that

2496
02:49:11,100 --> 02:49:15,201
stuff,That's all good. It's just the

2497
02:49:16,100 --> 02:49:17,100
road thing, we are concerned about

2498
02:49:17,100 --> 02:49:21,201
safety on the adjacent roads.Where I

2499
02:49:23,100 --> 02:49:24,100
live, that's what we are worried about.

2500
02:49:24,100 --> 02:49:25,100
The other thing is what supervisor

2501
02:49:25,100 --> 02:49:28,601
Wilson brought out about what triggers

2502
02:49:31,100 --> 02:49:32,100
these things, if you think about what's

2503
02:49:32,100 --> 02:49:33,100
on Central Avenue, that area, this was

2504
02:49:33,100 --> 02:49:34,100
already built, I think there's one

2505
02:49:34,100 --> 02:49:35,100
empty lot in there. The whole place, if

2506
02:49:35,100 --> 02:49:38,100
you come down from the school,Natural

2507
02:49:38,100 --> 02:49:40,100
foods, the bank, fire department,Pet

2508
02:49:40,100 --> 02:49:44,201
store, And it's all built. When you

2509
02:49:48,100 --> 02:49:52,801
going to go up against that curve?This

2510
02:49:55,100 --> 02:49:56,100
is 80 years, I don't know when people

2511
02:49:56,100 --> 02:49:57,100
start tearing down buildings, take this

2512
02:49:57,100 --> 02:49:58,100
out of itAnd look at what's going to

2513
02:49:58,100 --> 02:50:03,401
happen to it, all the rest of us that

2514
02:50:04,100 --> 02:50:05,100
aren't going to feel safe in her

2515
02:50:05,100 --> 02:50:06,100
neighborhood to because they're making

2516
02:50:06,100 --> 02:50:11,100
it safer on that road. There's a lot of

2517
02:50:11,100 --> 02:50:12,100
room up there to do different

2518
02:50:12,100 --> 02:50:13,100
configurations without pushing traffic

2519
02:50:13,100 --> 02:50:14,100
out of our way. Appreciate that.

2520
02:50:14,100 --> 02:50:15,100
>>Thank you.Good morning, sir.

2521
02:50:15,100 --> 02:50:19,201
>>Good morning. David Enos, I have been

2522
02:50:24,100 --> 02:50:25,100
in McKinleyville for not quite 35

2523
02:50:25,100 --> 02:50:26,100
years, Humboldt County for over 50

2524
02:50:26,100 --> 02:50:30,100
years.I know I don't look old enough.

2525
02:50:30,100 --> 02:50:32,100
[LAUGHING]

2526
02:50:35,100 --> 02:50:36,100
I taught architectural design at the

2527
02:50:36,100 --> 02:50:40,801
high school level for a number of years

2528
02:50:46,100 --> 02:50:47,100
, We plan for the town center back in

2529
02:50:47,100 --> 02:50:48,100
the '90s, we took that on as a project,

2530
02:50:48,100 --> 02:50:49,100
I think what you're doing so far as far

2531
02:50:49,100 --> 02:50:52,100
as development of that property is great

2532
02:50:52,100 --> 02:50:53,100
and I would like to offer up a

2533
02:50:53,100 --> 02:50:56,100
recommendationThat I think might be

2534
02:50:57,100 --> 02:50:59,100
palatable for both sides of the aisle,

2535
02:50:59,100 --> 02:51:02,601
Is thatThe road issue beRemoved from

2536
02:51:08,100 --> 02:51:13,100
the rest of the process for now, And is

2537
02:51:13,100 --> 02:51:15,100
this property is developed to see how

2538
02:51:15,100 --> 02:51:18,100
the impactsAre affectedBy the trafficIn

2539
02:51:24,100 --> 02:51:28,801
the flow of people to and from workIn

2540
02:51:30,100 --> 02:51:31,100
the seniors and the kids and the horses

2541
02:51:31,100 --> 02:51:32,100
and whatever else you're going to use

2542
02:51:32,100 --> 02:51:33,100
on the property, The roadway there, I

2543
02:51:33,100 --> 02:51:37,201
thinkTwo easy fixes right now would be

2544
02:51:39,100 --> 02:51:43,201
to as Dennis Mayo said do something

2545
02:51:44,100 --> 02:51:45,100
about the sidewalk area, because it's

2546
02:51:45,100 --> 02:51:48,100
pretty old and needs attention,

2547
02:51:48,100 --> 02:51:52,100
Straighten it out, widen it,Get the

2548
02:51:52,100 --> 02:51:53,100
bumps and stuff out of there, and then

2549
02:51:53,100 --> 02:51:56,100
alsoIgnoring the speed limit in

2550
02:52:05,100 --> 02:52:06,100
enforcing it so people aren't driving

2551
02:52:06,100 --> 02:52:07,100
fast, because was going to happen is

2552
02:52:07,100 --> 02:52:08,100
you close it down, the crazy people

2553
02:52:08,100 --> 02:52:09,100
want to drive fast, they are going to

2554
02:52:09,100 --> 02:52:10,100
be going on the back streets and it's

2555
02:52:10,100 --> 02:52:11,100
going to make it dangerous for others.I

2556
02:52:11,100 --> 02:52:12,100
think putting it on the back burner for

2557
02:52:12,100 --> 02:52:14,100
nowAnd road studies and seeing how it

2558
02:52:14,100 --> 02:52:18,201
plays outWould be a good function at

2559
02:52:32,100 --> 02:52:33,100
this point.

2560
02:52:33,100 --> 02:52:34,100
>>Thank you. So I have one last person

2561
02:52:34,100 --> 02:52:35,100
coming up, if you do want to make

2562
02:52:35,100 --> 02:52:36,100
public comment, please mosey on over to

2563
02:52:36,100 --> 02:52:37,100
the doorway there and get in line and

2564
02:52:37,100 --> 02:52:38,100
then we're going to finish up public

2565
02:52:38,100 --> 02:52:39,100
comment. Please come forward, sir.

2566
02:52:39,100 --> 02:52:40,100
>>Thank you for having me. I love

2567
02:52:40,100 --> 02:52:42,401
seeing everybody from McKinleyville.

2568
02:52:45,100 --> 02:52:46,100
It's just such a sense of community. My

2569
02:52:46,100 --> 02:52:49,100
wife and I love everything goes on there

2570
02:52:49,100 --> 02:52:50,100
, the concerts they have, the Chamber

2571
02:52:50,100 --> 02:52:52,100
of Commerce, what they do. I've heard

2572
02:52:52,100 --> 02:52:56,801
from a lot of different people and I

2573
02:52:57,100 --> 02:52:59,100
get the 50/50 split, but it sounds like

2574
02:52:59,100 --> 02:53:01,100
you are probably going to take care of

2575
02:53:01,100 --> 02:53:04,601
the traffic situation and study it

2576
02:53:19,100 --> 02:53:20,100
more. The community center is such a

2577
02:53:20,100 --> 02:53:21,100
fantastic idea, it looks like it's got

2578
02:53:21,100 --> 02:53:22,100
to happen. I think it's just got to

2579
02:53:22,100 --> 02:53:23,100
happen in my wife and I both look

2580
02:53:23,100 --> 02:53:24,100
forward to that, we own our home in

2581
02:53:24,100 --> 02:53:25,100
McKinleyville, we do walk across that

2582
02:53:25,100 --> 02:53:26,100
street and you almost have to run

2583
02:53:26,100 --> 02:53:27,100
sometimes, but depends on what time of

2584
02:53:27,100 --> 02:53:29,100
dayAnd I just hope it goes forwardAnd

2585
02:53:29,100 --> 02:53:30,100
thanks for your public service,

2586
02:53:30,100 --> 02:53:33,100
everyone, I think that's soImportant,

2587
02:53:35,100 --> 02:53:36,100
you get more and more young people to

2588
02:53:36,100 --> 02:53:37,100
continue to get involved. Public

2589
02:53:37,100 --> 02:53:38,100
service.That's it.

2590
02:53:38,100 --> 02:53:39,100
One quick one.

2591
02:53:39,100 --> 02:53:41,100
[LAUGHING]

2592
02:53:50,100 --> 02:53:51,100
I used to commute, it took forever,

2593
02:53:51,100 --> 02:53:52,100
that two lane went forever all the way

2594
02:53:52,100 --> 02:53:54,100
through the town, it was no big deal.I

2595
02:53:54,100 --> 02:53:56,100
got used to it. Thank you.

2596
02:53:56,100 --> 02:54:00,801
>>Thank you.Okay, you are our last one.

2597
02:54:02,100 --> 02:54:04,100
[LAUGHING]

2598
02:54:10,100 --> 02:54:11,100
>>Ellen Brown. Lifelong Humboldt County

2599
02:54:11,100 --> 02:54:12,100
resident, I have had a home in

2600
02:54:12,100 --> 02:54:13,100
McKinleyville for four years.We all

2601
02:54:13,100 --> 02:54:15,100
know it has to grow. You can't have an

2602
02:54:15,100 --> 02:54:19,201
urban areaAnd a rural area, Same thing,

2603
02:54:21,100 --> 02:54:25,201
We want to keepThe village, But can't

2604
02:54:30,100 --> 02:54:32,100
do that with four stories of buildings.

2605
02:54:32,100 --> 02:54:36,801
On the road diet,You have to consider

2606
02:54:44,100 --> 02:54:45,100
the buses that use the road, people

2607
02:54:45,100 --> 02:54:46,100
have to get around those, the trucks

2608
02:54:46,100 --> 02:54:47,100
for those buildings, work in a doctor's

2609
02:54:47,100 --> 02:54:48,100
office and we have a lot of older

2610
02:54:48,100 --> 02:54:49,100
people that are now cutting up and

2611
02:54:49,100 --> 02:54:50,100
going around Holly already. If you take

2612
02:54:50,100 --> 02:54:52,100
it toTwo lane center turn lane, They

2613
02:54:52,100 --> 02:54:54,100
are going to be in trouble.Even though

2614
02:54:54,100 --> 02:54:57,100
they drive really well, The ones that

2615
02:54:57,100 --> 02:55:00,601
need to have alreadyReverse the driving

2616
02:55:08,100 --> 02:55:09,100
that they do. That would make it

2617
02:55:09,100 --> 02:55:10,100
unbearable for this people trying to

2618
02:55:10,100 --> 02:55:11,100
get in and out. The buses that bring

2619
02:55:11,100 --> 02:55:13,401
people fromThe care facilitiesAlready

2620
02:55:15,100 --> 02:55:16,100
have problems trying to get across the

2621
02:55:16,100 --> 02:55:19,100
street. If youIf you have

2622
02:55:33,100 --> 02:55:34,100
bumper-to-bumper traffic there's no

2623
02:55:34,100 --> 02:55:35,100
way. They will be going around hauling

2624
02:55:35,100 --> 02:55:36,100
everything too. I've already talked to

2625
02:55:36,100 --> 02:55:37,100
them about that. There's got to be a

2626
02:55:37,100 --> 02:55:38,100
balance, it's just that we half to find

2627
02:55:38,100 --> 02:55:39,100
it. Doesn't need to go back to Micmac

2628
02:55:39,100 --> 02:55:40,100
and help themResearch a little more?

2629
02:55:40,100 --> 02:55:41,100
Maybe that's where we need to start.

2630
02:55:41,100 --> 02:55:44,100
Thank you for your time.

2631
02:55:44,100 --> 02:55:45,100
>>Thank you. I'm going to close public

2632
02:55:45,100 --> 02:55:47,100
comment and at this time, we're going

2633
02:55:47,100 --> 02:55:51,100
to take a short recess. I'm sorry, but

2634
02:55:51,100 --> 02:55:55,201
the board may also have some questions

2635
02:55:57,100 --> 02:55:58,100
of some of the commenters so I hope you

2636
02:55:58,100 --> 02:55:59,100
stay, we are going to take 20 minutes,

2637
02:55:59,100 --> 02:56:04,401
we get a little angry, So I'm going to

2638
02:56:08,100 --> 02:56:09,100
encourage everyone to get some food,

2639
02:56:09,100 --> 02:56:10,100
use of facilities and we will be back

2640
02:56:10,100 --> 02:56:13,601
on in 20 minutes. Okay? Thank you.

2641
03:18:39,100 --> 03:18:40,100
So if you're going to be in the

2642
03:18:40,100 --> 03:18:41,100
doorway, you need to go out there or

2643
03:18:41,100 --> 03:18:46,100
come in. Thanks so much.Okay, so we are

2644
03:18:46,100 --> 03:18:47,100
going to come back and I am going to

2645
03:18:47,100 --> 03:18:49,100
clarify any of the board membersIf they

2646
03:18:49,100 --> 03:18:53,801
have any of the commenters.It does not

2647
03:18:58,100 --> 03:18:59,100
look like it. We are going to go back

2648
03:18:59,100 --> 03:19:00,100
to Director Ford.

2649
03:19:00,100 --> 03:19:01,100
>>Thank you, chair, would love to just

2650
03:19:01,100 --> 03:19:05,801
clarify a couple of things.One of the

2651
03:19:06,100 --> 03:19:07,100
comments was made that wetlands would

2652
03:19:07,100 --> 03:19:11,801
be able to be relocated and filled with

2653
03:19:12,100 --> 03:19:13,100
just an administrator permit. That is

2654
03:19:13,100 --> 03:19:14,100
not a true statement. While development

2655
03:19:14,100 --> 03:19:17,100
Is allowedWith ministerial approval and

2656
03:19:19,100 --> 03:19:23,801
I want to clarify this too,It currently

2657
03:19:27,100 --> 03:19:28,100
is allowed with ministerial approval,

2658
03:19:28,100 --> 03:19:29,100
that's not a change, but a community

2659
03:19:29,100 --> 03:19:30,100
plan identifies it once it's in

2660
03:19:30,100 --> 03:19:31,100
development it says without the special

2661
03:19:31,100 --> 03:19:34,100
permit which would be a discretionary

2662
03:19:34,100 --> 03:19:36,100
permit so it's encouraging not to create

2663
03:19:36,100 --> 03:19:38,401
elaboratePermitting processes as part

2664
03:19:42,100 --> 03:19:43,100
of the plan. But the wetlands would

2665
03:19:43,100 --> 03:19:47,201
require a special permit.There was a

2666
03:19:48,100 --> 03:19:51,100
discussion on affordable housing, But

2667
03:19:52,100 --> 03:19:54,100
the things I told the Micmac was theIn

2668
03:19:54,100 --> 03:19:57,100
order to developIn affordable housing

2669
03:19:57,100 --> 03:20:00,601
program it is really a complicated

2670
03:20:01,100 --> 03:20:03,100
process and should be addressedOn a

2671
03:20:03,100 --> 03:20:06,601
much larger scaleAnd what the Micmac

2672
03:20:07,100 --> 03:20:10,100
directed be doneIs that they would like

2673
03:20:10,100 --> 03:20:13,100
to start that discussionAmongst the

2674
03:20:18,100 --> 03:20:19,100
Micmac and bring a recommendation back

2675
03:20:19,100 --> 03:20:20,100
to the board. So I would anticipate at

2676
03:20:20,100 --> 03:20:21,100
some point in the future that you will

2677
03:20:21,100 --> 03:20:22,100
hear a recommendation from the Micmac

2678
03:20:22,100 --> 03:20:24,401
aboutWhether to adopt affordable

2679
03:20:28,100 --> 03:20:29,100
housing ordinances, inclusionary

2680
03:20:29,100 --> 03:20:33,100
ordinances.And then there was a comment

2681
03:20:33,100 --> 03:20:36,100
that the developer asked for

2682
03:20:39,100 --> 03:20:40,100
administrative approval. This is not

2683
03:20:40,100 --> 03:20:41,100
something the developer asked for. This

2684
03:20:41,100 --> 03:20:45,201
comes out of theCommunity plan.And then

2685
03:20:47,100 --> 03:20:48,100
there was a desire to understand the

2686
03:20:48,100 --> 03:20:52,100
timing of the road diet, And there is

2687
03:20:52,100 --> 03:20:53,100
no timing on that. It really is

2688
03:20:53,100 --> 03:20:54,100
dependent upon financingAnd as I

2689
03:20:54,100 --> 03:20:57,100
mentionedIn my response to supervisor

2690
03:20:58,100 --> 03:21:02,801
Bohn, That is going to have to be

2691
03:21:03,100 --> 03:21:05,100
funded by other than development.

2692
03:21:05,100 --> 03:21:08,601
Because that will be an expensive

2693
03:21:09,100 --> 03:21:11,100
Process to undertake is so there's not

2694
03:21:11,100 --> 03:21:14,100
currently financingFor it, there's not

2695
03:21:15,100 --> 03:21:18,100
Timeline all that, soThe town center

2696
03:21:18,100 --> 03:21:21,100
can begin to developWithout the road

2697
03:21:21,100 --> 03:21:24,100
diet occurring, and this part of the

2698
03:21:24,100 --> 03:21:28,100
decision on the part of theBoard of

2699
03:21:28,100 --> 03:21:31,100
Supervisors today is whether or not as

2700
03:21:31,100 --> 03:21:34,100
you've been asked several times to to

2701
03:21:34,100 --> 03:21:38,201
further the decisions on the road diet.

2702
03:21:40,100 --> 03:21:44,201
I just wanted to also identifyThat it's

2703
03:21:46,100 --> 03:21:47,100
comforting to ask for additional studies

2704
03:21:47,100 --> 03:21:51,201
.But then one of the thingsWith the

2705
03:21:58,100 --> 03:21:59,100
deferred decision that I would

2706
03:21:59,100 --> 03:22:00,100
encourage the board to ask themselves

2707
03:22:00,100 --> 03:22:01,100
this, what would be your tolerance with

2708
03:22:01,100 --> 03:22:03,100
results of the additional study, if it

2709
03:22:03,100 --> 03:22:06,100
came back and said yes, There will be

2710
03:22:06,100 --> 03:22:09,601
diversion of traffic on the streets,

2711
03:22:13,100 --> 03:22:14,100
Would that be acceptable? You've

2712
03:22:14,100 --> 03:22:18,801
already got a study that says that.And

2713
03:22:19,100 --> 03:22:20,100
so if that's something that's

2714
03:22:20,100 --> 03:22:23,100
unacceptable andObviously the road diet

2715
03:22:23,100 --> 03:22:27,100
should not be considered.If, on the

2716
03:22:27,100 --> 03:22:30,601
other hand, there isCriteria placed upon

2717
03:22:37,100 --> 03:22:38,100
The fighting a sense of place, defining

2718
03:22:38,100 --> 03:22:39,100
what the community center looks like,

2719
03:22:39,100 --> 03:22:42,100
recognizing that there will be some

2720
03:22:42,100 --> 03:22:45,601
trade-offs involved, Then those need to

2721
03:22:46,100 --> 03:22:49,100
be the mitigating circumstances.It

2722
03:22:49,100 --> 03:22:52,601
would be appropriate to follow the

2723
03:22:53,100 --> 03:22:55,100
recommendation to do additional studies?

2724
03:22:55,100 --> 03:22:59,201
And make sure thatThe design this back

2725
03:23:03,100 --> 03:23:04,100
to the Micmac and it has been passed

2726
03:23:04,100 --> 03:23:06,100
forward that (INAUDIBLE).

2727
03:23:09,100 --> 03:23:10,100
>>Okay, I will bring it back to the

2728
03:23:10,100 --> 03:23:13,100
boardAnd we'll start having discussion.

2729
03:23:14,100 --> 03:23:18,201
He wants to go first?Supervisor Arroyo?

2730
03:23:26,100 --> 03:23:27,100
>>I defer for the question to be

2731
03:23:27,100 --> 03:23:28,100
asked.

2732
03:23:28,100 --> 03:23:29,100
>>Sure, supervisor?

2733
03:23:29,100 --> 03:23:32,100
>>This is just, you had mentioned that

2734
03:23:32,100 --> 03:23:35,100
in the options forWhat we saw for

2735
03:23:35,100 --> 03:23:38,601
cross-sections for the changeIn the road

2736
03:23:44,100 --> 03:23:47,601
It is suggestions, There to give

2737
03:23:48,100 --> 03:23:49,100
reference, right? They're not actually

2738
03:23:49,100 --> 03:23:52,601
the final design, that can change

2739
03:23:53,100 --> 03:23:54,100
should be different. I've seen so many

2740
03:23:54,100 --> 03:23:55,100
different versions of that throughout

2741
03:23:55,100 --> 03:23:58,100
communities that travelSo I was

2742
03:23:58,100 --> 03:23:59,100
wondering if that isThe end.

2743
03:23:59,100 --> 03:24:03,201
>>No, that's not intended to be the

2744
03:24:04,100 --> 03:24:07,601
final design. While it was greatly

2745
03:24:08,100 --> 03:24:12,201
influenced by public works, It's not an

2746
03:24:13,100 --> 03:24:15,100
engineering design.

2747
03:24:16,100 --> 03:24:20,201
>>And then also there was a comment

2748
03:24:21,100 --> 03:24:22,100
that someone mentioned, there will be

2749
03:24:22,100 --> 03:24:23,100
no right lane turning options, and this

2750
03:24:23,100 --> 03:24:24,100
doesn't preclude that.

2751
03:24:24,100 --> 03:24:28,201
>>Not only does that not preclude that,

2752
03:24:32,100 --> 03:24:33,100
that's part of the recommendation of

2753
03:24:33,100 --> 03:24:35,100
the traffic study that I believeIt sat,

2754
03:24:35,100 --> 03:24:38,100
I think it's Heartwood thatThere be a

2755
03:24:38,100 --> 03:24:41,100
right turnOrdinance at HellerAnd a

2756
03:24:53,100 --> 03:24:54,100
three lane section, there should be a

2757
03:24:54,100 --> 03:24:55,100
free right term. Correctly

2758
03:24:55,100 --> 03:24:56,100
cross-section seen their, the

2759
03:24:56,100 --> 03:24:58,401
cross-section it shows likeSeparated

2760
03:25:01,100 --> 03:25:05,801
bike path on both sides of the road,

2761
03:25:09,100 --> 03:25:10,100
But in some communities they do just

2762
03:25:10,100 --> 03:25:11,100
one on one side, there might be parking

2763
03:25:11,100 --> 03:25:14,100
on the other side in order to address

2764
03:25:14,100 --> 03:25:15,100
Access to storefronts and those sorts

2765
03:25:15,100 --> 03:25:16,100
of things. Is that within the framework

2766
03:25:16,100 --> 03:25:20,100
Of the potential? We are asking for

2767
03:25:20,100 --> 03:25:22,100
what's being talked about his

2768
03:25:22,100 --> 03:25:25,601
storefronts and I thinkWe have that

2769
03:25:33,100 --> 03:25:36,601
same issue that isThe developmentUp to

2770
03:25:39,100 --> 03:25:42,100
the street for would be in place of the

2771
03:25:42,100 --> 03:25:45,100
existing parking thereThen you have

2772
03:25:49,100 --> 03:25:52,601
buildings behind it maybe. What I'm

2773
03:25:53,100 --> 03:25:54,100
getting at is I would like some

2774
03:25:54,100 --> 03:25:56,401
flexibilityTo allow some back-and-forth

2775
03:26:02,100 --> 03:26:05,601
on those access pointsPeople into the

2776
03:26:07,100 --> 03:26:10,100
downtown, be a part of thatAnd in

2777
03:26:10,100 --> 03:26:13,100
exchange for reducing the requirement,

2778
03:26:14,100 --> 03:26:17,601
The parking minimums, make sure there

2779
03:26:18,100 --> 03:26:19,100
is actually some public parking

2780
03:26:19,100 --> 03:26:23,201
available as well of that construct. Is

2781
03:26:24,100 --> 03:26:25,100
that something that can be discussed in

2782
03:26:25,100 --> 03:26:26,100
the future as part of that design work?

2783
03:26:26,100 --> 03:26:29,601
>>I would say that really shouldBe

2784
03:26:30,100 --> 03:26:33,100
involved with a full on additional

2785
03:26:33,100 --> 03:26:35,100
study. One of the thingsThat we backed

2786
03:26:35,100 --> 03:26:39,201
away from was having parking on Central

2787
03:26:41,100 --> 03:26:44,100
In particularly made that decision when

2788
03:26:44,100 --> 03:26:47,601
our traffic consultant said if you

2789
03:26:48,100 --> 03:26:49,100
wanted to slow traffic down put parking

2790
03:26:49,100 --> 03:26:51,100
on Central and it was like okay, I

2791
03:26:51,100 --> 03:26:53,100
don't want to go that far.

2792
03:26:53,100 --> 03:26:57,201
>>What I'm getting at is for deliveries

2793
03:26:58,100 --> 03:26:59,100
and other things like that, we're going

2794
03:26:59,100 --> 03:27:04,401
to have to make sure there is at least

2795
03:27:07,100 --> 03:27:08,100
Career, services, I'm just trying to

2796
03:27:08,100 --> 03:27:09,100
figure out how this will work. I will

2797
03:27:09,100 --> 03:27:11,100
let you guys work that out, I get it.

2798
03:27:11,100 --> 03:27:12,100
I'm thinking about so many places where

2799
03:27:12,100 --> 03:27:14,100
I have seen, I just want to put out

2800
03:27:14,100 --> 03:27:17,601
there there's a great book, install

2801
03:27:21,100 --> 03:27:22,100
called confessions of a recovering

2802
03:27:22,100 --> 03:27:25,100
engineer, I recommend everybody read

2803
03:27:27,100 --> 03:27:28,100
this even if you're not an engineer. It

2804
03:27:28,100 --> 03:27:31,100
speaks very clearly to the construct of

2805
03:27:31,100 --> 03:27:34,601
And especially in sort of theAmerican

2806
03:27:36,100 --> 03:27:40,201
experience of the idea that more and

2807
03:27:41,100 --> 03:27:44,601
wider roads bring you prosperityAnd it

2808
03:27:46,100 --> 03:27:47,100
does a pretty amazing deconstruction of

2809
03:27:47,100 --> 03:27:50,601
that constructAcross a lot of various

2810
03:27:56,100 --> 03:27:59,601
Landscape in townAreas and cities as

2811
03:28:00,100 --> 03:28:04,201
well.It's really, It just it speaks

2812
03:28:09,100 --> 03:28:13,100
very much to why we see the term road

2813
03:28:13,100 --> 03:28:15,100
diet, we can make more popularize, that

2814
03:28:15,100 --> 03:28:18,100
sort of thing, when I looked at this

2815
03:28:18,100 --> 03:28:20,100
Project or I guess what you call it

2816
03:28:20,100 --> 03:28:24,801
this Q Zone, The first thing I did

2817
03:28:25,100 --> 03:28:26,100
actually was when I dove into this

2818
03:28:26,100 --> 03:28:29,601
questionOf the road Diane I basically

2819
03:28:41,100 --> 03:28:42,100
made a pretty comprehensive searching

2820
03:28:42,100 --> 03:28:43,100
road diet failures. What are road

2821
03:28:43,100 --> 03:28:44,100
dial "road diet failures? Where is that

2822
03:28:44,100 --> 03:28:45,100
happening, where is that usually

2823
03:28:45,100 --> 03:28:46,100
occurring? I can tell you that there

2824
03:28:46,100 --> 03:28:47,100
are less failures than there are

2825
03:28:47,100 --> 03:28:51,201
Successes that you see in the studies

2826
03:28:52,100 --> 03:28:53,100
but in general the failures tend to

2827
03:28:53,100 --> 03:28:54,100
occur if there's a threshold of 20,000

2828
03:28:54,100 --> 03:28:58,100
Trips a day, it's about where they

2829
03:28:58,100 --> 03:29:01,601
begin to occur or whereThere are

2830
03:29:04,100 --> 03:29:05,100
certain cautions and design parameters

2831
03:29:05,100 --> 03:29:06,100
you might have to think about in terms

2832
03:29:06,100 --> 03:29:09,601
of that. That's moving into, That's

2833
03:29:11,100 --> 03:29:12,100
almost double what we are talking about

2834
03:29:12,100 --> 03:29:16,201
here.In this space. The other example,

2835
03:29:17,100 --> 03:29:20,100
the other thing I always think about

2836
03:29:20,100 --> 03:29:24,801
when I look at proposals like this is

2837
03:29:25,100 --> 03:29:26,100
if the existing condition was as what

2838
03:29:26,100 --> 03:29:29,100
is being proposed today, if sort of the

2839
03:29:29,100 --> 03:29:32,601
vision was created and actually existed

2840
03:29:34,100 --> 03:29:35,100
like there was the three lanes, the

2841
03:29:35,100 --> 03:29:36,100
center lane and the turn lanes and

2842
03:29:36,100 --> 03:29:38,100
there was nice street skates and there

2843
03:29:38,100 --> 03:29:42,100
was buildings up to the corners, Would

2844
03:29:42,100 --> 03:29:46,100
we be proposing toDo what's there today

2845
03:29:46,100 --> 03:29:49,601
? LikeWould we be sitting here today

2846
03:29:53,100 --> 03:29:54,100
like what really needs to change, we

2847
03:29:54,100 --> 03:29:55,100
need to remove those buildings, pull it

2848
03:29:55,100 --> 03:29:56,100
back, I don't think we would be doing

2849
03:29:56,100 --> 03:29:59,601
that.That generally helps meSort of

2850
03:30:01,100 --> 03:30:05,100
trying to figure out whether we are

2851
03:30:05,100 --> 03:30:06,100
moving in the right direction or not,

2852
03:30:06,100 --> 03:30:10,801
if it's perfect or not, it's a whole

2853
03:30:11,100 --> 03:30:12,100
another, I think whether we have

2854
03:30:12,100 --> 03:30:13,100
certain criticisms and details of that

2855
03:30:13,100 --> 03:30:14,100
but in generalAnd sometimes it does

2856
03:30:14,100 --> 03:30:17,601
take time and in deference to

2857
03:30:19,100 --> 03:30:21,100
(INAUDIBLE), he's right, it takes time,

2858
03:30:21,100 --> 03:30:25,100
that is not, Things do not happen

2859
03:30:25,100 --> 03:30:28,100
magically or immediately, that's real.

2860
03:30:30,100 --> 03:30:31,100
And if we are going to decide to move

2861
03:30:31,100 --> 03:30:34,100
forward with something like this,AsThe

2862
03:30:34,100 --> 03:30:37,100
institutionGovernment, We are not, they

2863
03:30:38,100 --> 03:30:42,801
are not, We are the planningAnd body for

2864
03:30:43,100 --> 03:30:47,201
McKinleyville, Good or bad, and I think

2865
03:30:50,100 --> 03:30:51,100
that that's the commitment that we

2866
03:30:51,100 --> 03:30:53,100
make today, even if it's a split vote,

2867
03:30:53,100 --> 03:30:57,201
whatever that is,If that's the direction

2868
03:31:01,100 --> 03:31:02,100
That we have to support it, that's what

2869
03:31:02,100 --> 03:31:03,100
I'm getting at, we have to provide the

2870
03:31:03,100 --> 03:31:06,601
resources to do thatAnd then understand

2871
03:31:07,100 --> 03:31:11,201
that the expectation is it brings value

2872
03:31:12,100 --> 03:31:13,100
, Not just cultural value, safety value

2873
03:31:13,100 --> 03:31:16,601
but economic valueTo that area. SoYes,

2874
03:31:24,100 --> 03:31:28,201
Did I mentionLike a place I was

2875
03:31:29,100 --> 03:31:33,201
thinking about is like Fort BraggAnd if

2876
03:31:35,100 --> 03:31:36,100
you drive through Fort Bragg the

2877
03:31:36,100 --> 03:31:37,100
highway narrows down to two lanes and

2878
03:31:37,100 --> 03:31:41,801
it goes through, it winds up to four

2879
03:31:43,100 --> 03:31:44,100
lanes for just a little while, but if

2880
03:31:44,100 --> 03:31:45,100
you look at the difference between

2881
03:31:45,100 --> 03:31:46,100
four-lane section and the two main

2882
03:31:46,100 --> 03:31:49,100
section, the 29 section certainly has

2883
03:31:49,100 --> 03:31:52,100
some congestion in it. But it also has

2884
03:31:52,100 --> 03:31:53,100
the thriving storefronts and it has a

2885
03:31:53,100 --> 03:31:56,601
communityThat's doing all kinds of stuff

2886
03:31:57,100 --> 03:32:00,601
and I just can't imagine askingFort

2887
03:32:01,100 --> 03:32:05,100
Bragg to widen that out to four lanes

2888
03:32:05,100 --> 03:32:06,100
in that spot if somehow that would make

2889
03:32:06,100 --> 03:32:09,601
that community better. And if you

2890
03:32:11,100 --> 03:32:12,100
compare that to the section where they

2891
03:32:12,100 --> 03:32:14,100
did widen it out to four lanesDown on

2892
03:32:14,100 --> 03:32:18,801
the south end of that town, You are

2893
03:32:24,100 --> 03:32:25,100
like the ticket running across the road

2894
03:32:25,100 --> 03:32:26,100
there, it is really dangerous, the

2895
03:32:26,100 --> 03:32:27,100
community is separated from its

2896
03:32:27,100 --> 03:32:28,100
oceanfront properties, it has this very

2897
03:32:28,100 --> 03:32:29,100
no man's land sort of feel to it in

2898
03:32:29,100 --> 03:32:32,601
terms of, No pedestrians go walking

2899
03:32:36,100 --> 03:32:37,100
from downtown down in that area, they

2900
03:32:37,100 --> 03:32:38,100
just don't do it because it feels

2901
03:32:38,100 --> 03:32:40,100
dangerous and they're not into it.So I

2902
03:32:40,100 --> 03:32:43,100
could name off so many other examples

2903
03:32:43,100 --> 03:32:46,100
of this that I've seen across the

2904
03:32:46,100 --> 03:32:49,601
United States, Especially after you see

2905
03:32:50,100 --> 03:32:54,201
these changes, so in thatI am confident

2906
03:32:56,100 --> 03:33:00,100
That if we do embark on thisThat will

2907
03:33:00,100 --> 03:33:05,100
do it withThe care that needs to be done

2908
03:33:05,100 --> 03:33:09,801
And with the, We have to understand for

2909
03:33:15,100 --> 03:33:16,100
the reasons why we would do something

2910
03:33:16,100 --> 03:33:17,100
like this. Again, it's a safety part of

2911
03:33:17,100 --> 03:33:19,100
this, There's a part about the culture,

2912
03:33:19,100 --> 03:33:22,100
but really there's a strong economic

2913
03:33:22,100 --> 03:33:25,100
BenefitTo making these kinds of

2914
03:33:29,100 --> 03:33:30,100
changes. I also think that when this

2915
03:33:30,100 --> 03:33:31,100
was widened out to four lanes we just

2916
03:33:31,100 --> 03:33:34,100
really were just from a design

2917
03:33:34,100 --> 03:33:36,100
perspective the engineers at that time

2918
03:33:36,100 --> 03:33:39,601
Were just toldA different story. When

2919
03:33:45,100 --> 03:33:46,100
you read about these sorts of things,

2920
03:33:46,100 --> 03:33:48,100
they are sold in full that these types

2921
03:33:48,100 --> 03:33:50,401
of infrastructuresWould create benefits

2922
03:33:51,100 --> 03:33:55,801
that in general are not as, Didn't come

2923
03:33:59,100 --> 03:34:00,100
to fruition in the way that we might

2924
03:34:00,100 --> 03:34:01,100
imagine, especially rural America.

2925
03:34:01,100 --> 03:34:04,601
That's what I have for now.

2926
03:34:09,100 --> 03:34:10,100
>>We are going to go back to supervisor

2927
03:34:10,100 --> 03:34:11,100
Arroyo.

2928
03:34:11,100 --> 03:34:12,100
>>Thank you. I thought I was missing a

2929
03:34:12,100 --> 03:34:14,100
quick question.

2930
03:34:24,100 --> 03:34:25,100
[LAUGHING]

2931
03:34:25,100 --> 03:34:26,100
>>I just went for it.

2932
03:34:26,100 --> 03:34:27,100
>>Well, good.

2933
03:34:27,100 --> 03:34:28,100
>>We all have lots of thoughts about

2934
03:34:28,100 --> 03:34:29,100
this. This is a great opportunity for

2935
03:34:29,100 --> 03:34:30,100
me to hear from different perspectives,

2936
03:34:30,100 --> 03:34:31,100
we have heard a ton of comments from

2937
03:34:31,100 --> 03:34:33,100
folks, Both today and in all manner of

2938
03:34:33,100 --> 03:34:36,100
respondents, and I really will agree

2939
03:34:36,100 --> 03:34:37,100
that the person who said it's really

2940
03:34:37,100 --> 03:34:39,100
kind of roughly divided down the middle.

2941
03:34:39,100 --> 03:34:42,100
About theThe traffic calming component

2942
03:34:46,100 --> 03:34:47,100
of it, not necessarily the entirety of

2943
03:34:47,100 --> 03:34:50,100
thisZoning amendment.And that includes

2944
03:35:04,100 --> 03:35:05,100
all the many, many petitions and other

2945
03:35:05,100 --> 03:35:06,100
methods of providing information. So

2946
03:35:06,100 --> 03:35:07,100
there really is a lot of diversity of

2947
03:35:07,100 --> 03:35:08,100
opinion, I think I've heard quite a few

2948
03:35:08,100 --> 03:35:09,100
people say everyone feels the way I do

2949
03:35:09,100 --> 03:35:10,100
and I'm here to tell you that not

2950
03:35:10,100 --> 03:35:14,201
everyone feels the same way about it.

2951
03:35:16,100 --> 03:35:17,100
It may be an indication that maybe the

2952
03:35:17,100 --> 03:35:18,100
people you're in community with feel

2953
03:35:18,100 --> 03:35:19,100
the same way but you've got an abundant

2954
03:35:19,100 --> 03:35:23,100
diversity of feedback.SoI want to cut

2955
03:35:23,100 --> 03:35:24,100
or share a few things about Humboldt

2956
03:35:24,100 --> 03:35:27,100
County and our not awesomenessStaff's

2957
03:35:36,100 --> 03:35:37,100
when it comes to roadways.

2958
03:35:37,100 --> 03:35:38,100
Unfortunately, we have, we are fourth

2959
03:35:38,100 --> 03:35:41,601
out of 58 counties in the stateFor

2960
03:35:42,100 --> 03:35:45,601
bicycle collisions in fifth out of50

2961
03:35:48,100 --> 03:35:49,100
counties in the state for equestrian

2962
03:35:49,100 --> 03:35:50,100
collisions. More than twice the state

2963
03:35:50,100 --> 03:35:53,100
average. We are working towards a

2964
03:35:53,100 --> 03:35:57,100
vision zero approach where there are no

2965
03:35:57,100 --> 03:36:01,201
Injuries or fatalities on her own ways

2966
03:36:02,100 --> 03:36:04,100
We're not there yet. Is very

2967
03:36:04,100 --> 03:36:07,601
unmentionable thatIn our work, I look

2968
03:36:09,100 --> 03:36:13,100
forward to kind of keeping in the

2969
03:36:13,100 --> 03:36:17,100
sites, Keithley is very red "Keeping in

2970
03:36:17,100 --> 03:36:21,801
the front of your mind.It's the books

2971
03:36:26,100 --> 03:36:27,100
this deadliest in the state for DUI.

2972
03:36:27,100 --> 03:36:28,100
Some sobering no pun intended stats

2973
03:36:28,100 --> 03:36:32,201
there.So Central Avenue, a couple of

2974
03:36:34,100 --> 03:36:35,100
folks wondered why we are talking about

2975
03:36:35,100 --> 03:36:38,100
are including it in thisZoning

2976
03:36:41,100 --> 03:36:42,100
amendment and it's right in the middle

2977
03:36:42,100 --> 03:36:43,100
of the area we are talking about, it

2978
03:36:43,100 --> 03:36:46,100
bisects it, that is why. When it comes

2979
03:36:46,100 --> 03:36:47,100
to the actual project area or zoning

2980
03:36:47,100 --> 03:36:50,100
amendment area, because projects are

2981
03:36:51,100 --> 03:36:52,100
yet to come, we are just talk about the

2982
03:36:52,100 --> 03:36:55,100
zoning piece of it, andClick the

2983
03:36:55,100 --> 03:36:57,401
infrastructure piece, there were

2984
03:38:24,100 --> 03:38:25,100
(INAUDIBLE) roadways what's front and

2985
03:38:25,100 --> 03:38:27,100
center, An example is given earlier

2986
03:38:27,100 --> 03:38:31,201
about Eureka going from three in this

2987
03:38:34,100 --> 03:38:35,100
case to two lanes and a large part of

2988
03:38:35,100 --> 03:38:36,100
that was to reduce the crossing distance

2989
03:38:36,100 --> 03:38:40,201
for the seniorsIn the high school and

2990
03:38:43,100 --> 03:38:44,100
medicals middle school students at us

2991
03:38:44,100 --> 03:38:45,100
all literally running across the street

2992
03:38:45,100 --> 03:38:49,100
or waiting forA break in the traffic

2993
03:38:49,100 --> 03:38:52,601
that never cameWhen using a mobility

2994
03:38:57,100 --> 03:38:58,100
device. So I take it really to heart

2995
03:38:58,100 --> 03:38:59,100
that these projects are not just about

2996
03:38:59,100 --> 03:39:00,100
the users of theCentral Avenue in this

2997
03:39:00,100 --> 03:39:04,201
case but alsoThose who are crossing.I

2998
03:39:08,100 --> 03:39:12,801
have also worked on a lot of school

2999
03:39:13,100 --> 03:39:14,100
projects in McKinleyville so I

3000
03:39:14,100 --> 03:39:15,100
appreciate people bring those up and in

3001
03:39:15,100 --> 03:39:16,100
the time that I have worked on those

3002
03:39:16,100 --> 03:39:20,201
projects prior to being on this boardI

3003
03:39:22,100 --> 03:39:23,100
got to see the evaluation of roots

3004
03:39:23,100 --> 03:39:25,100
changed during that period of time from

3005
03:39:25,100 --> 03:39:26,100
analyzing what used to be called level

3006
03:39:26,100 --> 03:39:30,100
of service and has other terms, it is

3007
03:39:30,100 --> 03:39:31,100
essentially about how many vehicles you

3008
03:39:31,100 --> 03:39:34,100
can move through spaceTwo reducing

3009
03:39:34,100 --> 03:39:35,100
vehicle miles traveled so the exact

3010
03:39:35,100 --> 03:39:38,100
opposite goalIn evaluating the safety

3011
03:39:38,100 --> 03:39:40,100
of all users in the roadwayAnd I will

3012
03:39:40,100 --> 03:39:44,801
just say with what has been brought up

3013
03:39:47,100 --> 03:39:48,100
about the youth getting to and from the

3014
03:39:48,100 --> 03:39:49,100
school that's within this zoning

3015
03:39:49,100 --> 03:39:52,100
amendment area, that is veryTop of mind

3016
03:39:52,100 --> 03:39:55,100
for me, so we are planning for a space

3017
03:39:55,100 --> 03:39:57,100
that is going to have a lot of youth

3018
03:39:57,100 --> 03:40:01,100
and a lot of seniorsAnd they are not

3019
03:40:01,100 --> 03:40:05,100
all going to be in vehicles, soI am

3020
03:40:05,100 --> 03:40:06,100
pleased to see the process that's been

3021
03:40:06,100 --> 03:40:10,100
undertaken. I support it fully, I am

3022
03:40:10,100 --> 03:40:13,100
here and ready toMove forward after

3023
03:40:13,100 --> 03:40:15,100
hearing about the abundantCommunity

3024
03:40:15,100 --> 03:40:19,801
inputAnd also want to just add that I

3025
03:40:20,100 --> 03:40:22,100
have heard all the input, there's been

3026
03:40:22,100 --> 03:40:24,100
a lot of it, and just because those of

3027
03:40:24,100 --> 03:40:28,801
us in this position, if we don't agree

3028
03:40:33,100 --> 03:40:34,100
with some of the input, it doesn't mean

3029
03:40:34,100 --> 03:40:35,100
it wasn't Herder there wasn't a robust

3030
03:40:35,100 --> 03:40:38,100
Pro sauce "Process. Hopefully that's

3031
03:40:40,100 --> 03:40:41,100
understood to everyone in this room but

3032
03:40:41,100 --> 03:40:42,100
I still felt that I should say it. I

3033
03:40:42,100 --> 03:40:43,100
did hearThe comment from the community

3034
03:40:43,100 --> 03:40:46,100
member who wanted to talk aboutThe open

3035
03:40:46,100 --> 03:40:49,601
space provisions andI imagine there is

3036
03:40:51,100 --> 03:40:55,201
a lot ofDiscussion that went into that,

3037
03:40:58,100 --> 03:40:59,100
but I would like to hear a little bit

3038
03:40:59,100 --> 03:41:00,100
more about it, I also understand there

3039
03:41:00,100 --> 03:41:02,100
areMultiple property owners likely to

3040
03:41:02,100 --> 03:41:04,401
make significant investments hereThis

3041
03:41:06,100 --> 03:41:07,100
may have been a compromise to try to

3042
03:41:07,100 --> 03:41:09,100
find a way where we can move forward

3043
03:41:09,100 --> 03:41:10,100
With the zoning amendment but those

3044
03:41:10,100 --> 03:41:14,201
exact(INAUDIBLE) may still be in the

3045
03:41:17,100 --> 03:41:18,100
design process down the line but I

3046
03:41:18,100 --> 03:41:19,100
would love to hear little bit more

3047
03:41:19,100 --> 03:41:23,801
about that half plus acre of open space.

3048
03:41:27,100 --> 03:41:28,100
>>Chair?

3049
03:41:28,100 --> 03:41:29,100
>>Go ahead.

3050
03:41:29,100 --> 03:41:30,100
>>So this was a point of vigorous

3051
03:41:30,100 --> 03:41:33,601
discussionAnd the original IDL was kind

3052
03:41:36,100 --> 03:41:40,100
of usingThe Arcata Square as an example

3053
03:41:40,100 --> 03:41:44,100
of size, And that is approximately an

3054
03:41:44,100 --> 03:41:48,801
acre.And so some people liked that size

3055
03:41:51,100 --> 03:41:54,100
. Other people wanted to leaveThe

3056
03:41:58,100 --> 03:41:59,100
opportunity for either that decide to

3057
03:41:59,100 --> 03:42:00,100
do something else where there's a lot

3058
03:42:00,100 --> 03:42:04,100
more smaller open space areas spread out

3059
03:42:04,100 --> 03:42:07,100
through the area and it's not justThe

3060
03:42:07,100 --> 03:42:10,100
and Pearson property, obviously life

3061
03:42:11,100 --> 03:42:14,601
plan Humboldt has an obligation, the

3062
03:42:15,100 --> 03:42:16,100
property has an obligation in that as

3063
03:42:16,100 --> 03:42:19,100
wellAs Pickett Road properties. They

3064
03:42:19,100 --> 03:42:23,801
can either doOn their own, all of the,

3065
03:42:29,100 --> 03:42:30,100
Or they can consolidate it, location,

3066
03:42:30,100 --> 03:42:31,100
that would be negotiated between the

3067
03:42:31,100 --> 03:42:34,100
property owners, So how they want that

3068
03:42:34,100 --> 03:42:38,100
to occur. So really comes, I think part

3069
03:42:38,100 --> 03:42:40,100
of the problem is no oneProperty is big

3070
03:42:40,100 --> 03:42:43,100
enoughThat the minimal requirements be

3071
03:42:51,100 --> 03:42:52,100
an acre on that property. He said it's

3072
03:42:52,100 --> 03:42:53,100
got to be an anchor, you are basically

3073
03:42:53,100 --> 03:42:54,100
saying that one property is going to

3074
03:42:54,100 --> 03:42:56,100
have an acreOf open spaceDedicated to

3075
03:42:56,100 --> 03:42:57,100
it and I thinkThat may have

3076
03:42:57,100 --> 03:43:00,100
>>Thank you, that's helpful. I

3077
03:43:15,100 --> 03:43:16,100
understand there's constraints of the

3078
03:43:16,100 --> 03:43:17,100
property owners the what they intend to

3079
03:43:17,100 --> 03:43:19,100
do, right?

3080
03:43:43,100 --> 03:43:44,100
>>(INAUDIBLE) I appreciate the

3081
03:43:44,100 --> 03:43:45,100
temporary reductions but that's not

3082
03:43:45,100 --> 03:43:46,100
analogous to the final design of

3083
03:43:46,100 --> 03:43:47,100
changing the roadway and people do

3084
03:43:47,100 --> 03:43:49,100
behave differently when they see

3085
03:43:49,100 --> 03:43:52,100
Temporary structuresAnd when they have

3086
03:43:52,100 --> 03:43:55,601
permanent changes. I don't think they

3087
03:43:56,100 --> 03:43:58,100
lack value, but I don't think there also

3088
03:43:58,100 --> 03:44:01,100
a perfect analog for an engineered

3089
03:44:01,100 --> 03:44:03,100
Roadway.

3090
03:44:06,100 --> 03:44:10,201
>>Great, as vice chair, I will take

3091
03:44:11,100 --> 03:44:12,100
over for a minute, the chair had to

3092
03:44:12,100 --> 03:44:13,100
step out for a second, do we have any

3093
03:44:13,100 --> 03:44:15,401
questions, commentsFrom supervisor Bohn?

3094
03:44:17,100 --> 03:44:21,201
>>Well,All the input, I don't know,

3095
03:44:24,100 --> 03:44:29,100
it's kind of funny because it was it was

3096
03:44:29,100 --> 03:44:30,100
overwhelming at one time the other way

3097
03:44:30,100 --> 03:44:31,100
and now it's 50-50. I think it's more

3098
03:44:31,100 --> 03:44:32,100
than that to the residents.And then

3099
03:44:32,100 --> 03:44:35,601
I've heardDegraded wetlands, We have a

3100
03:44:37,100 --> 03:44:40,100
projectOn Central Avenue that's been 10

3101
03:44:42,100 --> 03:44:45,601
years in the making for wetlandsThat

3102
03:44:49,100 --> 03:44:50,100
was supposedly filled that was degraded

3103
03:44:50,100 --> 03:44:51,100
and we have been dragging that on for

3104
03:44:51,100 --> 03:44:54,100
hundreds of thousands of dollarsMuch to

3105
03:44:54,100 --> 03:44:55,100
the property owners despair and willing

3106
03:44:55,100 --> 03:44:59,201
to cooperate.I worry about this because

3107
03:45:00,100 --> 03:45:01,100
now it's just degraded wetlands, will

3108
03:45:01,100 --> 03:45:02,100
just move it and I have a basic

3109
03:45:02,100 --> 03:45:05,601
understanding of that when I first

3110
03:45:07,100 --> 03:45:08,100
started redwood feels 35 years ago in

3111
03:45:08,100 --> 03:45:09,100
the first location because it had

3112
03:45:09,100 --> 03:45:13,201
wetlands. Yes, we can do that back

3113
03:45:14,100 --> 03:45:18,201
then. With that being said, Life plan

3114
03:45:19,100 --> 03:45:22,100
sounds great and I think it is greatAnd

3115
03:45:22,100 --> 03:45:23,100
I appreciate everybody that split their

3116
03:45:23,100 --> 03:45:25,100
time inAnd it looks like a great

3117
03:45:25,100 --> 03:45:28,100
project for a lot of people, There's

3118
03:45:28,100 --> 03:45:31,100
benefits both for the people that live

3119
03:45:31,100 --> 03:45:34,100
there and things like that, I

3120
03:45:34,100 --> 03:45:35,100
appreciate in Pearson doing that, I

3121
03:45:35,100 --> 03:45:38,100
remember and I thank her for kicking

3122
03:45:38,100 --> 03:45:39,100
the ballfields out because we got

3123
03:45:39,100 --> 03:45:42,601
Hiller Park, Which was the driving

3124
03:45:43,100 --> 03:45:44,100
force, no wordplay for the kids for

3125
03:45:44,100 --> 03:45:47,601
Little League.That's been 25 years ago.

3126
03:45:49,100 --> 03:45:53,201
20 years ago. So Kenny is nodding his

3127
03:45:56,100 --> 03:45:57,100
head, he fully remembers that now our

3128
03:45:57,100 --> 03:45:58,100
grandkids are playing, it's been a

3129
03:45:58,100 --> 03:46:02,100
great thing. It's but we are planning

3130
03:46:02,100 --> 03:46:03,100
to do this stuff and we are so far

3131
03:46:03,100 --> 03:46:07,100
ahead of the game here, We have a

3132
03:46:07,100 --> 03:46:08,100
conceptual plan that's probably going

3133
03:46:08,100 --> 03:46:12,201
to get approved todayAnd, I don't know

3134
03:46:18,100 --> 03:46:19,100
how to say this nicely, I really have a

3135
03:46:19,100 --> 03:46:22,100
hard time with the road diet but I

3136
03:46:22,100 --> 03:46:23,100
don't want to vote against it because

3137
03:46:23,100 --> 03:46:24,100
that usually means I trigger votes for

3138
03:46:24,100 --> 03:46:29,401
it.So with the hat "With that, look at

3139
03:46:34,100 --> 03:46:35,100
the old movie, with that being said,

3140
03:46:35,100 --> 03:46:38,601
it's a $20 million projectOr more, It's

3141
03:46:41,100 --> 03:46:42,100
going to be a total mess, a lot of it

3142
03:46:42,100 --> 03:46:45,100
is driven, again, byOutside sources,

3143
03:46:45,100 --> 03:46:47,100
and I just, I am hearing from so many

3144
03:46:47,100 --> 03:46:51,801
people, What I would've loved and I am

3145
03:46:56,100 --> 03:46:57,100
not going to be age discriminatory, but

3146
03:46:57,100 --> 03:46:58,100
I would love to see somebody under 50

3147
03:46:58,100 --> 03:46:59,100
years old speak today, Randy is even

3148
03:46:59,100 --> 03:47:04,100
over that, I think.But I mean in all

3149
03:47:04,100 --> 03:47:05,100
honestly we need to get the young

3150
03:47:05,100 --> 03:47:06,100
involved. Talking to the young in the

3151
03:47:06,100 --> 03:47:09,601
process, Much like a homecoming game

3152
03:47:11,100 --> 03:47:15,100
and everything else, they don't like the

3153
03:47:15,100 --> 03:47:16,100
idea, either, and I think we should

3154
03:47:16,100 --> 03:47:20,201
see where life plan goesBefore we start

3155
03:47:22,100 --> 03:47:23,100
tearing up the road:because we have

3156
03:47:23,100 --> 03:47:24,100
heard what happens when it goes down to

3157
03:47:24,100 --> 03:47:28,201
two lanes, and I'm pretty sure there's

3158
03:47:29,100 --> 03:47:30,100
a pretty good road study would we put

3159
03:47:30,100 --> 03:47:31,100
the green bike lanes it and everything

3160
03:47:31,100 --> 03:47:32,100
else there's a pretty good study back

3161
03:47:32,100 --> 03:47:35,100
thenCE some of the congestion. Unable

3162
03:47:35,100 --> 03:47:36,100
to force us out of cars, I know that's

3163
03:47:36,100 --> 03:47:38,100
the whole idea, HIC, all of that stuff

3164
03:47:38,100 --> 03:47:41,100
and everything else. I've tried, I

3165
03:47:41,100 --> 03:47:45,801
can't do the bus.I don't have enough

3166
03:47:46,100 --> 03:47:47,100
time in the day, I have a 12 hour day

3167
03:47:47,100 --> 03:47:52,401
already. So, And I served on HDA, and I

3168
03:47:53,100 --> 03:47:54,100
think it's a great tool for a lot of

3169
03:47:54,100 --> 03:47:58,801
people.I support the life plan. I just

3170
03:48:03,100 --> 03:48:04,100
think the road died is pushing it but I

3171
03:48:04,100 --> 03:48:05,100
think that's what they are going, using

3172
03:48:05,100 --> 03:48:08,601
as a tool, AndOverwhelming, the people,

3173
03:48:15,100 --> 03:48:16,100
the regular residents of McKinleyville

3174
03:48:16,100 --> 03:48:17,100
did not want all those people in their

3175
03:48:17,100 --> 03:48:19,100
arterial streets and prime exampleIs

3176
03:48:19,100 --> 03:48:23,201
I've fought five years ago for a

3177
03:48:24,100 --> 03:48:25,100
streetlight in Okun F, we have added

3178
03:48:25,100 --> 03:48:28,100
two more stoplights on Broadway, tried

3179
03:48:28,100 --> 03:48:29,100
to get on F Street from Oak or any the

3180
03:48:29,100 --> 03:48:32,100
side streets between7:39:31 unless we

3181
03:48:37,100 --> 03:48:38,100
have matching funds are not going to do

3182
03:48:38,100 --> 03:48:39,100
it now the price is going to be so

3183
03:48:39,100 --> 03:48:40,100
expensive but they are still having

3184
03:48:40,100 --> 03:48:41,100
accidentsThey don't call the police,

3185
03:48:41,100 --> 03:48:42,100
they got a fender bender, it doesn't

3186
03:48:42,100 --> 03:48:45,100
matter, There's been some serious

3187
03:48:46,100 --> 03:48:49,601
accidents. I heard one statistic that

3188
03:48:51,100 --> 03:48:52,100
Central at avenue after the change was

3189
03:48:52,100 --> 03:48:55,601
the fifth safestAnd then the fatality,

3190
03:48:58,100 --> 03:48:59,100
I think the one fatality was brought up

3191
03:48:59,100 --> 03:49:00,100
an extremely drunk driver, I believe.

3192
03:49:00,100 --> 03:49:02,100
You still in jail. It's like all the

3193
03:49:02,100 --> 03:49:06,100
accidents on Broadway, I don't know, I

3194
03:49:06,100 --> 03:49:10,100
checked, it's been years but I checked

3195
03:49:10,100 --> 03:49:11,100
and there is no incorrigible accidents

3196
03:49:11,100 --> 03:49:14,100
which means people wereEvery day, they

3197
03:49:14,100 --> 03:49:16,100
are crossing the middle-of-the-road.I

3198
03:49:16,100 --> 03:49:20,100
guessYou don't see it if you don't

3199
03:49:20,100 --> 03:49:24,201
drive it, but there are so many

3200
03:49:26,100 --> 03:49:27,100
shopping carts again the get hit and

3201
03:49:27,100 --> 03:49:28,100
everything else they get written up as

3202
03:49:28,100 --> 03:49:31,100
an accident.We put into crosswalks I

3203
03:49:31,100 --> 03:49:32,100
guess there's another one planned, but

3204
03:49:32,100 --> 03:49:35,601
I've had peopleProcess at the Verizon

3205
03:49:37,100 --> 03:49:38,100
store less than 100 yards away at the

3206
03:49:38,100 --> 03:49:42,201
theater.SoI can't support the road diet

3207
03:49:45,100 --> 03:49:48,100
because it is think it's the cart is so

3208
03:49:48,100 --> 03:49:52,801
far ahead of the horse, and you canMike

3209
03:49:58,100 --> 03:49:59,100
was talking about he's written to other

3210
03:49:59,100 --> 03:50:00,100
books, it's going to a great audience,

3211
03:50:00,100 --> 03:50:03,601
makingMoney, he's blaming it on injury

3212
03:50:05,100 --> 03:50:08,601
from 80 years ago. We have learned

3213
03:50:11,100 --> 03:50:12,100
guessing, we've seen some of the gases

3214
03:50:12,100 --> 03:50:13,100
in Eureka and they are not working.

3215
03:50:13,100 --> 03:50:17,801
They don't seem to be working. It's not

3216
03:50:19,100 --> 03:50:20,100
working, here by saying that, I don't

3217
03:50:20,100 --> 03:50:21,100
see anybody there. I see them trying to

3218
03:50:21,100 --> 03:50:22,100
turn, trying to get on Wabash, it's a

3219
03:50:22,100 --> 03:50:26,801
cluster.So that's where I stand, I know

3220
03:50:31,100 --> 03:50:32,100
I can count to three in my head, so I'm

3221
03:50:32,100 --> 03:50:33,100
not too worried about it but that's

3222
03:50:33,100 --> 03:50:34,100
where I'm going to stand.

3223
03:50:34,100 --> 03:50:37,100
>>Can you clarify your standing, you

3224
03:50:37,100 --> 03:50:38,100
would like the land but you don't like

3225
03:50:38,100 --> 03:50:39,100
the Rowe diet?

3226
03:50:39,100 --> 03:50:43,201
>>I thinkIfThe life plan comes it's a

3227
03:50:51,100 --> 03:50:52,100
great idea, just when everybody likes

3228
03:50:52,100 --> 03:50:53,100
them, wetlands and everybody else, we

3229
03:50:53,100 --> 03:50:54,100
can move it, we can do that, we can do

3230
03:50:54,100 --> 03:50:55,100
that but the problem is it's used as a

3231
03:50:55,100 --> 03:50:59,100
tool or weapon against a lot of

3232
03:50:59,100 --> 03:51:00,100
projects too because there a lot

3233
03:51:00,100 --> 03:51:01,100
willing to move wetlands and everything

3234
03:51:01,100 --> 03:51:03,100
else, oh my gosh, you do that.So I will

3235
03:51:03,100 --> 03:51:04,100
post a zero diet just because I have

3236
03:51:04,100 --> 03:51:06,100
some, I have a lot more faith of the

3237
03:51:06,100 --> 03:51:09,100
peopleOf McKinleyville that have been

3238
03:51:10,100 --> 03:51:13,100
there 40, 50 years in the businesses.

3239
03:51:20,100 --> 03:51:21,100
In the businesses, I will tell you

3240
03:51:21,100 --> 03:51:22,100
what, there's a couple people up here

3241
03:51:22,100 --> 03:51:23,100
that got up and spoke that if that plan

3242
03:51:23,100 --> 03:51:25,100
happens there probably going to build it

3243
03:51:25,100 --> 03:51:26,100
But they had let them know that they

3244
03:51:26,100 --> 03:51:27,100
didn't basically approve it. The life

3245
03:51:27,100 --> 03:51:30,601
plan partI think housing for seniors,

3246
03:51:31,100 --> 03:51:32,100
great, I think you guys for adding some

3247
03:51:32,100 --> 03:51:33,100
affordable or low income housing, that

3248
03:51:33,100 --> 03:51:37,100
was nice of you, That's what everybody

3249
03:51:37,100 --> 03:51:40,100
has to do with the county.I hope that

3250
03:51:40,100 --> 03:51:42,100
clarifies it.

3251
03:51:44,100 --> 03:51:48,201
>>Okay.Okay, sure. I probably will have

3252
03:51:54,100 --> 03:51:55,100
more to say, but supervisor Madrone

3253
03:51:55,100 --> 03:51:56,100
like to go last. I have a couple of

3254
03:51:56,100 --> 03:51:59,100
questionsFor Director Ford, and I want

3255
03:51:59,100 --> 03:52:02,100
to make sure that Mr. Benson over there

3256
03:52:02,100 --> 03:52:06,201
didn't want to add something?If you

3257
03:52:11,100 --> 03:52:12,100
don't, that's okay, but if you do,

3258
03:52:12,100 --> 03:52:15,100
that's okay too. Your good? Okay.SoPart

3259
03:52:15,100 --> 03:52:19,201
of theThing that came out of the

3260
03:52:25,100 --> 03:52:26,100
planning commission is that, first of

3261
03:52:26,100 --> 03:52:27,100
all, I want to say I recognize being

3262
03:52:27,100 --> 03:52:28,100
slow down is a pain in the butt, I

3263
03:52:28,100 --> 03:52:32,100
travel a ton, I live very rural remote

3264
03:52:32,100 --> 03:52:33,100
And I'm always in a hurry, it seems

3265
03:52:33,100 --> 03:52:34,100
like, so having the thought of your

3266
03:52:34,100 --> 03:52:37,601
daily commuteBe changed and added time

3267
03:52:39,100 --> 03:52:40,100
or have to leave earlier in the morning

3268
03:52:40,100 --> 03:52:41,100
or have to get your kids up earlierIs

3269
03:52:41,100 --> 03:52:44,100
quite a thought, right?But also

3270
03:52:44,100 --> 03:52:47,100
recognize thatWhen you go faster,

3271
03:52:48,100 --> 03:52:51,100
safety becomesNot as, That increases

3272
03:52:58,100 --> 03:52:59,100
safety concerns as well. I've heard you

3273
03:52:59,100 --> 03:53:03,201
guys say about the safetyBy having the

3274
03:53:07,100 --> 03:53:08,100
roads cut down. I also know some tub

3275
03:53:08,100 --> 03:53:11,100
slowing down increases safetyAnd so

3276
03:53:17,100 --> 03:53:18,100
that's, I don't live in McKinleyville,

3277
03:53:18,100 --> 03:53:19,100
it's not my district, I don't go there

3278
03:53:19,100 --> 03:53:20,100
often so I haven't been there and seen

3279
03:53:20,100 --> 03:53:21,100
all that, I really do want to recognize

3280
03:53:21,100 --> 03:53:22,100
that but also like my colleague said, I

3281
03:53:22,100 --> 03:53:23,100
really want to thank everybody for

3282
03:53:23,100 --> 03:53:25,100
their letters and their emails, which

3283
03:53:25,100 --> 03:53:29,201
were really about 50-50For and against,

3284
03:53:32,100 --> 03:53:33,100
the road diet, not too many against the

3285
03:53:33,100 --> 03:53:34,100
McKinleyville center plan but the road

3286
03:53:34,100 --> 03:53:37,100
died itselfWas the biggest concern.

3287
03:53:39,100 --> 03:53:40,100
With that being said, my questions to

3288
03:53:40,100 --> 03:53:41,100
Director Ford are so out of the

3289
03:53:41,100 --> 03:53:43,100
planning commissionIt says that they

3290
03:53:43,100 --> 03:53:46,601
encourage forTraffic study. I have a

3291
03:53:50,100 --> 03:53:51,100
bunch of questions, so it is, to go to

3292
03:53:51,100 --> 03:53:55,801
the lineIf we do a traffic study, what

3293
03:53:59,100 --> 03:54:00,100
would be different in the future than

3294
03:54:00,100 --> 03:54:02,100
what we haven't already done?

3295
03:54:02,100 --> 03:54:03,100
>>I think it would take a look at a

3296
03:54:03,100 --> 03:54:06,601
broader area and look atWhere traffic

3297
03:54:07,100 --> 03:54:09,100
is actually going to and coming from, I

3298
03:54:09,100 --> 03:54:12,601
thinkThere is a lot ofTrafficOn Central

3299
03:54:16,100 --> 03:54:18,401
AvenueThat doesn't necessarily go

3300
03:54:23,100 --> 03:54:24,100
through the town center. Your invited

3301
03:54:24,100 --> 03:54:26,100
roles hope " it drives the whole month.

3302
03:54:26,100 --> 03:54:29,601
To really coming to understandWhere the

3303
03:54:30,100 --> 03:54:32,100
heaviest traffic isAndUnderstandingWhat

3304
03:54:37,100 --> 03:54:40,100
the needs of the community areI think

3305
03:54:40,100 --> 03:54:43,601
the planning commission not only was

3306
03:54:44,100 --> 03:54:48,201
looking at this as an opportunity toDo

3307
03:54:53,100 --> 03:54:54,100
a deeper dive but also look at

3308
03:54:54,100 --> 03:54:56,100
transportation as a whole. So that

3309
03:54:56,100 --> 03:55:00,100
would include not onlyThe road diet but

3310
03:55:00,100 --> 03:55:03,601
it would also includeHow do weAffect

3311
03:55:07,100 --> 03:55:10,100
better bicycle connections?. It's hard

3312
03:55:18,100 --> 03:55:22,801
to get to the town centerFor roads that

3313
03:55:26,100 --> 03:55:27,100
exist because it's really not a good

3314
03:55:27,100 --> 03:55:28,100
place to ride. Beginning to really

3315
03:55:28,100 --> 03:55:29,100
examine all of those things for the

3316
03:55:29,100 --> 03:55:30,100
community.

3317
03:55:30,100 --> 03:55:31,100
>>Thank you for that, and then in the

3318
03:55:31,100 --> 03:55:32,100
study that's currently been done, I

3319
03:55:32,100 --> 03:55:35,601
think there'sThree or four exits off

3320
03:55:36,100 --> 03:55:39,100
the freeway that come into McKinleyville

3321
03:55:39,100 --> 03:55:43,100
? I know for three for sure.Is there

3322
03:55:43,100 --> 03:55:44,100
five? Predict if you call up to

3323
03:55:44,100 --> 03:55:45,100
If you go all the way up to

3324
03:55:45,100 --> 03:55:50,401
>>I don't know if you know of the users

3325
03:55:56,100 --> 03:55:57,100
that use central Avenue, is there an

3326
03:55:57,100 --> 03:55:59,100
alternative route for them that they

3327
03:55:59,100 --> 03:56:01,100
can utilize those other five exits to

3328
03:56:01,100 --> 03:56:02,100
access their homes?

3329
03:56:02,100 --> 03:56:05,601
>>The first office central and anybody

3330
03:56:12,100 --> 03:56:13,100
that's going to go east on to Sutter is

3331
03:56:13,100 --> 03:56:14,100
going to get there for sure. Probably

3332
03:56:14,100 --> 03:56:17,100
anybody going to Heartwood is going to

3333
03:56:17,100 --> 03:56:18,100
get off there. Realistically, if you're

3334
03:56:18,100 --> 03:56:19,100
going up to the McKinleyville shopping

3335
03:56:19,100 --> 03:56:21,100
center, The Safeway are getting off

3336
03:56:21,100 --> 03:56:25,100
there even if it does get into the

3337
03:56:25,100 --> 03:56:28,100
(INAUDIBLE) area. For peopleThat live

3338
03:56:28,100 --> 03:56:33,401
north, If you are doing that get off on

3339
03:56:34,100 --> 03:56:35,100
school Road, it's going to take you

3340
03:56:35,100 --> 03:56:39,100
longer.If you go up to bury road that

3341
03:56:39,100 --> 03:56:42,100
you are backtracking. But if you live

3342
03:56:42,100 --> 03:56:47,401
on to the north and the town or ifIf

3343
03:56:49,100 --> 03:56:51,100
you live in the north end of town the's

3344
03:56:51,100 --> 03:56:55,801
it makes sense to go for very(INAUDIBLE)

3345
03:57:04,100 --> 03:57:05,100
offered Tubbs I would not drive down

3346
03:57:05,100 --> 03:57:07,100
to Washington and go to school, would

3347
03:57:07,100 --> 03:57:10,100
go up to Murray and get on the freeway,

3348
03:57:10,100 --> 03:57:13,100
Provide up to buryTo McKinley Villa

3349
03:57:13,100 --> 03:57:17,801
Drive South, So there's a line in there

3350
03:57:20,100 --> 03:57:21,100
sometimes and sometimes it SUSTIVA day,

3351
03:57:21,100 --> 03:57:23,100
it's just easier.

3352
03:57:28,100 --> 03:57:29,100
>>Of the red diet is an approved want

3353
03:57:29,100 --> 03:57:30,100
to setDue to theHumblePlan?

3354
03:57:30,100 --> 03:57:31,100
>>It doesn't affect.

3355
03:57:31,100 --> 03:57:34,601
>>So the comments it's something they

3356
03:57:37,100 --> 03:57:41,201
want is more for theWalk ability, a

3357
03:57:42,100 --> 03:57:44,100
right ability for slower processes?

3358
03:57:44,100 --> 03:57:48,100
>>I don't think life plan isThe primary

3359
03:57:48,100 --> 03:57:52,100
advocate or driver. That came out of

3360
03:57:52,100 --> 03:57:55,601
the committee.Where there are policies

3361
03:57:59,100 --> 03:58:02,601
Asking forAnd how to make connections

3362
03:58:06,100 --> 03:58:10,801
from the west to the eastAnd how to

3363
03:58:12,100 --> 03:58:13,100
address bicycle safety and to slow

3364
03:58:13,100 --> 03:58:16,100
traffic. That, Understanding that was

3365
03:58:17,100 --> 03:58:20,100
discussed as part of the community plan

3366
03:58:20,100 --> 03:58:24,801
And I don't want toWe were all hearsay

3367
03:58:25,100 --> 03:58:28,601
to see inappropriate, but maybe thatThe

3368
03:58:35,100 --> 03:58:36,100
policies that will put into the plan to

3369
03:58:36,100 --> 03:58:37,100
re-examine it, here we are again and we

3370
03:58:37,100 --> 03:58:39,100
are re-examining it again it's my

3371
03:58:39,100 --> 03:58:40,100
understanding providing the same

3372
03:58:40,100 --> 03:58:43,100
recommendations. Paramedic if we offer

3373
03:59:04,100 --> 03:59:05,100
an understanding of the road diet

3374
03:59:05,100 --> 03:59:06,100
process, what does that look like? Does

3375
03:59:06,100 --> 03:59:07,100
it come back to the board before would

3376
03:59:07,100 --> 03:59:08,100
be reapproved? Would he go back to

3377
03:59:08,100 --> 03:59:09,100
commission? What would it look like in

3378
03:59:09,100 --> 03:59:11,100
the long run?

3379
03:59:11,100 --> 03:59:12,100
>>It depends on how you want to

3380
03:59:12,100 --> 03:59:13,100
structure for the approval. If you were

3381
03:59:13,100 --> 03:59:14,100
looking to have the study done before

3382
03:59:14,100 --> 03:59:18,201
you begin to do any improvements, You

3383
03:59:21,100 --> 03:59:24,601
have the study completed, And that

3384
03:59:28,100 --> 03:59:29,100
should go through the Micmac that you

3385
03:59:29,100 --> 03:59:32,601
go through TST community shelter, That

3386
03:59:44,100 --> 03:59:45,100
something to move forward with her than

3387
03:59:45,100 --> 03:59:46,100
funding would be stopped to go out to

3388
03:59:46,100 --> 03:59:48,100
do whatever the results of the study

3389
03:59:48,100 --> 03:59:49,100
are. It could be as simple as just

3390
03:59:49,100 --> 03:59:51,100
central but it could be more

3391
03:59:51,100 --> 03:59:54,100
comprehensiveLooking at other areas in

3392
03:59:55,100 --> 03:59:57,401
the McKinleyville networkOf connection

3393
04:00:00,100 --> 04:00:01,100
Which would be pedestrian, bicycle,

3394
04:00:01,100 --> 04:00:02,100
public transitAn automobile traffic.

3395
04:00:02,100 --> 04:00:05,100
>>Who pays for traffic study?

3396
04:00:10,100 --> 04:00:11,100
>>In this case, that would either be

3397
04:00:11,100 --> 04:00:14,100
done through the countyOr through grant

3398
04:00:14,100 --> 04:00:18,801
funding.And I will tell you the most

3399
04:00:19,100 --> 04:00:23,801
expensive part of the EIR that was done

3400
04:00:25,100 --> 04:00:28,100
Was the service analysis that was done.

3401
04:00:28,100 --> 04:00:32,201
>>Those are my questions for right now.

3402
04:00:37,100 --> 04:00:38,100
I'll wait until there's more comments

3403
04:00:38,100 --> 04:00:39,100
before I add more. Thank you.

3404
04:00:39,100 --> 04:00:41,100
Supervisor Madrone?

3405
04:00:41,100 --> 04:00:44,100
>>Thank you, Madam Chair.I've got a few

3406
04:00:44,100 --> 04:00:47,100
thank you's I want to offer first, the

3407
04:00:47,100 --> 04:00:49,100
biggest one is thank you forFor the

3408
04:00:49,100 --> 04:00:53,201
community for those who have shown up

3409
04:00:55,100 --> 04:00:56,100
today and submitted comments, not only

3410
04:00:56,100 --> 04:00:57,100
in the last week or so but through the

3411
04:00:57,100 --> 04:00:58,100
whole process and I will tell you all

3412
04:00:58,100 --> 04:01:02,201
the phone callsAnd all the other input

3413
04:01:04,100 --> 04:01:05,100
I get at the grocery store and

3414
04:01:05,100 --> 04:01:08,100
everywhere else, it has been 50/50

3415
04:01:08,100 --> 04:01:09,100
split for me, I think we all have our

3416
04:01:09,100 --> 04:01:12,601
different audiences and people on this

3417
04:01:19,100 --> 04:01:20,100
board may have had different

3418
04:01:20,100 --> 04:01:21,100
experiences, maybe they heard mostly

3419
04:01:21,100 --> 04:01:22,100
opposition, maybe there'd mostly

3420
04:01:22,100 --> 04:01:23,100
support, will tell you from my

3421
04:01:23,100 --> 04:01:24,100
perspective it's been about 50/50.And I

3422
04:01:24,100 --> 04:01:25,100
will say thatEvery person that has

3423
04:01:25,100 --> 04:01:28,100
commented and hasn't even commented,

3424
04:01:32,100 --> 04:01:33,100
all those opinions are valid, every one

3425
04:01:33,100 --> 04:01:34,100
of them is valid, no matter what they

3426
04:01:34,100 --> 04:01:38,801
felt about it and I know this board

3427
04:01:40,100 --> 04:01:41,100
takes all of those comments seriously,

3428
04:01:41,100 --> 04:01:42,100
as do I.

3429
04:01:42,100 --> 04:01:46,100
But I really want to think and person.

3430
04:01:46,100 --> 04:01:47,100
When I first joined this board in 2019,

3431
04:01:47,100 --> 04:01:50,100
started attending the Micmac meetings,

3432
04:01:50,100 --> 04:01:54,201
And and was there, and she continuously

3433
04:01:59,100 --> 04:02:00,100
brought forth this vision of wanting to

3434
04:02:00,100 --> 04:02:01,100
be able to use her undeveloped

3435
04:02:01,100 --> 04:02:02,100
properties to create a town center and

3436
04:02:02,100 --> 04:02:03,100
a character for the town which she had

3437
04:02:03,100 --> 04:02:05,100
many people felt that while many people

3438
04:02:05,100 --> 04:02:08,601
think Central Avenue is wonderful, It

3439
04:02:09,100 --> 04:02:11,100
was kind of like a maze three USA and

3440
04:02:11,100 --> 04:02:15,801
not really a town center. So her and

3441
04:02:16,100 --> 04:02:17,100
she is maintain that vision from the

3442
04:02:17,100 --> 04:02:21,100
startAnd I cannot thank her enough peer

3443
04:02:21,100 --> 04:02:25,201
can pack in fact the wholeFamily has

3444
04:02:30,100 --> 04:02:31,100
been good to humble. I think the

3445
04:02:31,100 --> 04:02:34,601
Pearson family and and in particular

3446
04:02:37,100 --> 04:02:38,100
for that. I want to thank and Lindsay

3447
04:02:38,100 --> 04:02:39,100
and her board and her volunteers for

3448
04:02:39,100 --> 04:02:40,100
bringing forth this vision of life plan

3449
04:02:40,100 --> 04:02:44,100
Humboldt.I also want to think this

3450
04:02:44,100 --> 04:02:47,601
board. Without this boards support for

3451
04:02:49,100 --> 04:02:53,201
planning staff to engage for six years,

3452
04:02:55,100 --> 04:02:59,201
And we have been any otherPlans, zoning

3453
04:03:05,100 --> 04:03:06,100
plans changes that need to be applied,

3454
04:03:06,100 --> 04:03:07,100
many other things, thank you as board

3455
04:03:07,100 --> 04:03:08,100
members for your support of that staff

3456
04:03:08,100 --> 04:03:11,100
time, Primarily by Director Ford, who

3457
04:03:11,100 --> 04:03:13,100
lives in McKinleyville.We are lucky for

3458
04:03:13,100 --> 04:03:17,201
that.But also, funding to complete the

3459
04:03:18,100 --> 04:03:22,201
EIR. Without your support for that, we

3460
04:03:23,100 --> 04:03:27,801
would be here today. Thank you for that.

3461
04:03:32,100 --> 04:03:33,100
Want to think the back for the six

3462
04:03:33,100 --> 04:03:34,100
years of dedication, and I know some

3463
04:03:34,100 --> 04:03:38,201
people said they did listen,I think

3464
04:03:42,100 --> 04:03:43,100
what that is is if you make comments

3465
04:03:43,100 --> 04:03:44,100
and your comments aren't necessarily

3466
04:03:44,100 --> 04:03:45,100
what the end result is, it feels like

3467
04:03:45,100 --> 04:03:46,100
you haven't been heard. I can

3468
04:03:46,100 --> 04:03:50,100
appreciate that. I will sell you that

3469
04:03:50,100 --> 04:03:53,601
Because of you this "magnificent job.

3470
04:03:57,100 --> 04:03:58,100
The meetings have had 10 to 30 people

3471
04:03:58,100 --> 04:04:02,801
or more, we had a couple 40 or 50 people

3472
04:04:07,100 --> 04:04:08,100
, Is a large cross-section of the

3473
04:04:08,100 --> 04:04:09,100
community? No. But in terms of public

3474
04:04:09,100 --> 04:04:10,100
participation is pretty significant.

3475
04:04:10,100 --> 04:04:14,201
Really, you think "rarely do you get

3476
04:04:25,100 --> 04:04:26,100
people showing up until the very end

3477
04:04:26,100 --> 04:04:27,100
and then you get all kinds of comments.

3478
04:04:27,100 --> 04:04:28,100
Go to think the Micmac and the NCS

3479
04:04:28,100 --> 04:04:29,100
team. They have two representatives of

3480
04:04:29,100 --> 04:04:30,100
the Micmac and they have engaged in

3481
04:04:30,100 --> 04:04:31,100
discussions as we see here today with

3482
04:04:31,100 --> 04:04:32,100
one of the directors here as well as a

3483
04:04:32,100 --> 04:04:33,100
general managerSharing with us their

3484
04:04:33,100 --> 04:04:35,401
concerns aboutTheThe traffic calming

3485
04:04:41,100 --> 04:04:42,100
proposals and stuff like that, or

3486
04:04:42,100 --> 04:04:46,801
things in this data is done in the

3487
04:04:51,100 --> 04:04:52,100
back, fantastic job, they represent the

3488
04:04:52,100 --> 04:04:53,100
community. It's not easy to make those

3489
04:04:53,100 --> 04:04:56,601
appointments hereOn the border to try

3490
04:05:02,100 --> 04:05:03,100
to make sure of that but I will tell

3491
04:05:03,100 --> 04:05:04,100
you have had a number of very liberal

3492
04:05:04,100 --> 04:05:05,100
people in order to get on Micmac and

3493
04:05:05,100 --> 04:05:06,100
instead I can't move all that is that

3494
04:05:06,100 --> 04:05:10,801
it so Lego "(INAUDIBLE)I think we are

3495
04:05:13,100 --> 04:05:14,100
better for having that diverse group. I

3496
04:05:14,100 --> 04:05:15,100
wanted to thank those who took the time

3497
04:05:15,100 --> 04:05:16,100
to actually move beyond their

3498
04:05:16,100 --> 04:05:18,401
reactionary thoughts about traffic,

3499
04:05:22,100 --> 04:05:23,100
begin stuff and actually put a line, I

3500
04:05:23,100 --> 04:05:24,100
did some research about traffic, be it

3501
04:05:24,100 --> 04:05:28,201
about smartAnd that are one of theUse.

3502
04:05:40,100 --> 04:05:41,100
It's one thing to make a quick

3503
04:05:41,100 --> 04:05:44,601
reactionary comment but to follow that

3504
04:05:47,100 --> 04:05:48,100
And do the research, be careful that,

3505
04:05:48,100 --> 04:05:49,100
it might change your mind. I want to

3506
04:05:49,100 --> 04:05:50,100
thank those that really took that time

3507
04:05:50,100 --> 04:05:51,100
to dig in and if you haven't had that

3508
04:05:51,100 --> 04:05:54,601
time do thatThere's a lot of

3509
04:06:00,100 --> 04:06:01,100
information out there that will help

3510
04:06:01,100 --> 04:06:04,100
you how these things will beForm,

3511
04:06:04,100 --> 04:06:07,601
viewpoint toSix years, the toes and

3512
04:06:12,100 --> 04:06:16,201
orders of her "The (INAUDIBLE) put into

3513
04:06:17,100 --> 04:06:20,100
the(INAUDIBLE) ultimately supposed to

3514
04:06:37,100 --> 04:06:38,100
follow through and make happen but it

3515
04:06:38,100 --> 04:06:39,100
didn't happen for 19 years. It really

3516
04:06:39,100 --> 04:06:40,100
get started till 2019 and why that is

3517
04:06:40,100 --> 04:06:41,100
we can all conjecture why it never got

3518
04:06:41,100 --> 04:06:42,100
started or didn't happen, some

3519
04:06:42,100 --> 04:06:43,100
commenters today talk about how we did

3520
04:06:43,100 --> 04:06:44,100
want a town center, so I'm sure some of

3521
04:06:44,100 --> 04:06:45,100
that had something to do with that, but

3522
04:06:45,100 --> 04:06:46,100
at any rate, things change, leadership

3523
04:06:46,100 --> 04:06:47,100
changed at the board and at the Micmac

3524
04:06:47,100 --> 04:06:48,100
and ultimatelyWe got started on really

3525
04:06:48,100 --> 04:06:50,100
figuring out how toMove that forward

3526
04:06:50,100 --> 04:06:53,100
and get it done and I want to say that

3527
04:06:53,100 --> 04:06:58,401
a lot of that had to do withThis group

3528
04:07:03,100 --> 04:07:04,100
called the organizing committee, of

3529
04:07:04,100 --> 04:07:05,100
which several rivers are here today.

3530
04:07:05,100 --> 04:07:06,100
And they all worked really hard to keep

3531
04:07:06,100 --> 04:07:07,100
this vision aliveFor a town center.

3532
04:07:07,100 --> 04:07:10,100
ThereFailed continuing to bring that

3533
04:07:14,100 --> 04:07:15,100
order. I would recognize Bonnie

3534
04:07:15,100 --> 04:07:16,100
McGregor who is here today.

3535
04:07:16,100 --> 04:07:18,100
[ APPLAUSE ]

3536
04:07:18,100 --> 04:07:22,801
Yes.We are supposed to not clap, you

3537
04:07:25,100 --> 04:07:26,100
can do this, I guess. Bonnie, you and

3538
04:07:26,100 --> 04:07:30,201
many other members of your group That

3539
04:07:32,100 --> 04:07:33,100
Vision alive along with in person. I

3540
04:07:33,100 --> 04:07:34,100
can't thank you enough, I want to thank

3541
04:07:34,100 --> 04:07:38,801
you enough is a better way of saying

3542
04:07:56,100 --> 04:07:57,100
that. All the members of that group did

3543
04:07:57,100 --> 04:07:58,100
keep it alive. They were a big element

3544
04:07:58,100 --> 04:07:59,100
getting them painted by clades along

3545
04:07:59,100 --> 04:08:00,100
central and other things like that,

3546
04:08:00,100 --> 04:08:01,100
there are many other people, and no

3547
04:08:01,100 --> 04:08:02,100
shell and others have a lot to do with

3548
04:08:02,100 --> 04:08:03,100
trying to make sure central could be as

3549
04:08:03,100 --> 04:08:04,100
safe as it could be being a four-way

3550
04:08:04,100 --> 04:08:05,100
thoroughfare and all that stuff. So I

3551
04:08:05,100 --> 04:08:06,100
appreciate all that, but here we are,

3552
04:08:06,100 --> 04:08:07,100
finally after 19 years this thing

3553
04:08:07,100 --> 04:08:08,100
startedIn six years worth of work has

3554
04:08:08,100 --> 04:08:09,100
gone into thisAnd while the sports

3555
04:08:09,100 --> 04:08:11,100
deliberation is super important,

3556
04:08:11,100 --> 04:08:12,100
there's no way that four hours of

3557
04:08:12,100 --> 04:08:13,100
deliberation can replace six years

3558
04:08:13,100 --> 04:08:15,100
worth of effort by the community

3559
04:08:15,100 --> 04:08:16,100
Although our opinions matter as well

3560
04:08:16,100 --> 04:08:19,601
and I appreciateThe question from the

3561
04:08:21,100 --> 04:08:22,100
board that have already been asked to

3562
04:08:22,100 --> 04:08:26,201
try to clarify things.Central is not

3563
04:08:28,100 --> 04:08:29,100
safe. It might be safe for cars the way

3564
04:08:29,100 --> 04:08:32,100
is when constrained or developed, but

3565
04:08:32,100 --> 04:08:36,201
it is not safer for pedestriansIn the

3566
04:08:37,100 --> 04:08:38,100
stories I too have seen situations like

3567
04:08:38,100 --> 04:08:41,100
this previous editor, Previous board

3568
04:08:45,100 --> 04:08:46,100
member Rhett Wesley Chapel talk about

3569
04:08:46,100 --> 04:08:47,100
hiking we stopped in the right lane

3570
04:08:47,100 --> 04:08:48,100
flashing lights for the crosswalks are

3571
04:08:48,100 --> 04:08:51,601
going off,Children start crossing with

3572
04:08:52,100 --> 04:08:53,100
the car in the left lane does not

3573
04:08:53,100 --> 04:08:56,100
reflectCrossing lights and they just

3574
04:08:58,100 --> 04:08:59,100
barrel through, we are talking about

3575
04:08:59,100 --> 04:09:01,100
lives on the line here, near misses and

3576
04:09:01,100 --> 04:09:05,801
things like that.So we need to figure

3577
04:09:07,100 --> 04:09:08,100
something out. Maybe what we've already

3578
04:09:08,100 --> 04:09:11,100
propose is exactly you and I'll talk a

3579
04:09:11,100 --> 04:09:15,100
little more about that.I do agree that

3580
04:09:15,100 --> 04:09:17,401
the planning commission recommendation

3581
04:09:21,100 --> 04:09:22,100
Her comprehensive circulation study for

3582
04:09:22,100 --> 04:09:24,100
the entire community makes a lot of

3583
04:09:24,100 --> 04:09:29,401
sense, a lot of us would theWe did look

3584
04:09:30,100 --> 04:09:34,801
outside the impact of itWe did look at

3585
04:09:37,100 --> 04:09:41,201
the potential for on-ramp and offer help

3586
04:09:51,100 --> 04:09:52,100
, We did look at McKinleyville Avenue.

3587
04:09:52,100 --> 04:09:53,100
That's the furthest out we have looked,

3588
04:09:53,100 --> 04:09:54,100
that roundabout. We did look at the

3589
04:09:54,100 --> 04:09:55,100
Hiller ramps, that just came up during

3590
04:09:55,100 --> 04:09:56,100
this process and I was very pleased

3591
04:09:56,100 --> 04:09:59,100
with Caltrans responseThat they thought

3592
04:10:14,100 --> 04:10:15,100
wow, that would be a game changer. I

3593
04:10:15,100 --> 04:10:16,100
think we can all agree if there was an

3594
04:10:16,100 --> 04:10:17,100
on-ramp and offramp going south that

3595
04:10:17,100 --> 04:10:18,100
would be a game changer because that

3596
04:10:18,100 --> 04:10:19,100
connects right to the town center, it's

3597
04:10:19,100 --> 04:10:20,100
in the middle of town, while there

3598
04:10:20,100 --> 04:10:21,100
currently are five ways to get into

3599
04:10:21,100 --> 04:10:22,100
McKinleyville, that's the missing link,

3600
04:10:22,100 --> 04:10:23,100
that's the one that's perhaps most

3601
04:10:23,100 --> 04:10:24,100
importantTo really change the

3602
04:10:24,100 --> 04:10:25,100
circulation patterns on Central and on

3603
04:10:25,100 --> 04:10:26,100
McKinleyville Avenue without flooding

3604
04:10:26,100 --> 04:10:27,100
the neighborhoods, frankly.So I am very

3605
04:10:27,100 --> 04:10:28,100
excited about looking into that further

3606
04:10:28,100 --> 04:10:30,100
with Caltrans.

3607
04:10:34,100 --> 04:10:35,100
Additionally, it may not be well known

3608
04:10:35,100 --> 04:10:36,100
but this ordinance calls for completion

3609
04:10:36,100 --> 04:10:37,100
of the Mintel trail. Several people

3610
04:10:37,100 --> 04:10:38,100
spoke about thatAs a really great way

3611
04:10:38,100 --> 04:10:39,100
to offerAn alternative route separate

3612
04:10:39,100 --> 04:10:42,601
from centralTo walk, so it's language,

3613
04:10:45,100 --> 04:10:49,801
it is it railroad it picks up again

3614
04:10:50,100 --> 04:10:51,100
that in Heartwood. To complete that

3615
04:10:51,100 --> 04:10:54,100
through the testsLife plan Humboldt is

3616
04:10:54,100 --> 04:10:57,601
dedicated to thatIn the ordinance calls

3617
04:11:01,100 --> 04:11:02,100
for completion for the whole property.

3618
04:11:02,100 --> 04:11:06,100
That is going to be another game changer

3619
04:11:06,100 --> 04:11:07,100
to have that completed trail. The rest

3620
04:11:07,100 --> 04:11:08,100
of Humboldt County has often been a

3621
04:11:08,100 --> 04:11:11,100
little jealous of McKinleyvilleWith its

3622
04:11:18,100 --> 04:11:19,100
trail, and once we complete the midtown

3623
04:11:19,100 --> 04:11:20,100
trail that is a complete piece of that

3624
04:11:20,100 --> 04:11:21,100
wonderful aspects. There are proposals

3625
04:11:21,100 --> 04:11:22,100
for roundabouts as we speakAnd

3626
04:11:22,100 --> 04:11:23,100
volunteers in the community including

3627
04:11:23,100 --> 04:11:26,601
Micmac, we are trying outSome quick

3628
04:11:31,100 --> 04:11:32,100
build ideas of Heller Road as we speak,

3629
04:11:32,100 --> 04:11:33,100
including testing at around about with

3630
04:11:33,100 --> 04:11:35,100
temporary measures that Hillary Road.

3631
04:11:35,100 --> 04:11:38,100
This really exciting, because those two

3632
04:11:38,100 --> 04:11:41,100
could be a chain changer.

3633
04:11:53,100 --> 04:11:54,100
Open spaces mentioned and I too like

3634
04:11:54,100 --> 04:11:55,100
Bonnie feel like it would be nice to

3635
04:11:55,100 --> 04:11:56,100
have more open space and I can tell you

3636
04:11:56,100 --> 04:11:57,100
in my discussions with Ann Pearson she

3637
04:11:57,100 --> 04:11:58,100
feels that way too. She feels very much

3638
04:11:58,100 --> 04:11:59,100
like through the middle of the

3639
04:11:59,100 --> 04:12:01,401
developmentThere some wetland areas

3640
04:12:03,100 --> 04:12:04,100
that they could be developed into duck

3641
04:12:04,100 --> 04:12:05,100
ponds. It won't satisfy have been

3642
04:12:05,100 --> 04:12:06,100
wetland mitigation, per se, but it

3643
04:12:06,100 --> 04:12:09,601
could be amenitiesTo the hotelAnd I

3644
04:12:14,100 --> 04:12:15,100
have a lot of faith in what she did in

3645
04:12:15,100 --> 04:12:16,100
setting up this nonprofit foundation to

3646
04:12:16,100 --> 04:12:20,201
carry forward through vision. I have a

3647
04:12:21,100 --> 04:12:22,100
lot of faith they will look for

3648
04:12:22,100 --> 04:12:23,100
opportunities to agree even more open

3649
04:12:23,100 --> 04:12:26,601
space. I appreciate the comments people

3650
04:12:27,100 --> 04:12:28,100
and they know that. It is well

3651
04:12:28,100 --> 04:12:29,100
documented that density was one of

3652
04:12:29,100 --> 04:12:31,100
those things helps create a vibrantSend

3653
04:12:31,100 --> 04:12:35,201
center. TheWhy would we be making these

3654
04:12:56,100 --> 04:12:57,100
retail spaces would we have them

3655
04:12:57,100 --> 04:12:58,100
already? I am here to tell you there's

3656
04:12:58,100 --> 04:12:59,100
some really big picture stuff going on

3657
04:12:59,100 --> 04:13:00,100
in McKinleyville that I know you know

3658
04:13:00,100 --> 04:13:01,100
about or maybe you don't but the idea

3659
04:13:01,100 --> 04:13:02,100
of improving the vista point facility

3660
04:13:02,100 --> 04:13:03,100
on 101 so we can pull visitors off the

3661
04:13:03,100 --> 04:13:04,100
highway and right now how many other

3662
04:13:04,100 --> 04:13:05,100
hotels, motels are there in

3663
04:13:05,100 --> 04:13:06,100
McKinleyville? One. Holiday Inn. One.

3664
04:13:06,100 --> 04:13:10,100
Steve Mosher who has gotten the entire

3665
04:13:10,100 --> 04:13:11,100
Airport business Park permit is set

3666
04:13:11,100 --> 04:13:12,100
often to be the one set disappoint

3667
04:13:12,100 --> 04:13:13,100
facility is able to get people off the

3668
04:13:13,100 --> 04:13:14,100
highway even if you're going northOr

3669
04:13:14,100 --> 04:13:17,601
South, That will cause his business

3670
04:13:27,100 --> 04:13:28,100
card to fill out the very short period

3671
04:13:28,100 --> 04:13:29,100
of time. Humboldt County's airport is

3672
04:13:29,100 --> 04:13:30,100
growing, and we have actually property

3673
04:13:30,100 --> 04:13:31,100
at the airport that could be developed

3674
04:13:31,100 --> 04:13:32,100
in hotels, motels, and other types of

3675
04:13:32,100 --> 04:13:36,100
things, and the town center for its

3676
04:13:36,100 --> 04:13:37,100
(INAUDIBLE) was census going to do is

3677
04:13:37,100 --> 04:13:38,100
bring a lot of income in from outside

3678
04:13:38,100 --> 04:13:39,100
the community that is going along with

3679
04:13:39,100 --> 04:13:42,100
the densification of life plan Humboldt

3680
04:13:42,100 --> 04:13:43,100
Is going to lead to a vibrant town

3681
04:13:43,100 --> 04:13:44,100
center retail operation. We are going

3682
04:13:44,100 --> 04:13:47,601
to ceaseStorage filled up, Bob would

3683
04:13:48,100 --> 04:13:52,801
perhaps "Mom and pops be able to freaks

3684
04:13:55,100 --> 04:13:59,801
succeed. I look forward to that day. In

3685
04:14:03,100 --> 04:14:04,100
our meetings, it was split on the

3686
04:14:04,100 --> 04:14:05,100
density issue between population age,

3687
04:14:05,100 --> 04:14:09,201
what with the Asian interests of people?

3688
04:14:11,100 --> 04:14:12,100
The young people are like I love it,

3689
04:14:12,100 --> 04:14:13,100
it's vibrant. Price older folks, let's

3690
04:14:13,100 --> 04:14:14,100
just keep it down.That also is very

3691
04:14:14,100 --> 04:14:18,201
splitIn particular by age group which I

3692
04:14:20,100 --> 04:14:21,100
think is interesting. I believe this

3693
04:14:21,100 --> 04:14:24,100
process will lead to increasedVibrant

3694
04:14:26,100 --> 04:14:30,801
retail environment we also know to do a

3695
04:14:36,100 --> 04:14:37,100
traffic study that was done thanks to

3696
04:14:37,100 --> 04:14:38,100
the efforts of the coalition for

3697
04:14:38,100 --> 04:14:39,100
responsible transportation priorities,

3698
04:14:39,100 --> 04:14:40,100
we got a grant to actually study

3699
04:14:40,100 --> 04:14:43,100
transit in McKinleyville because right

3700
04:14:44,100 --> 04:14:45,100
now we just kind of have it through

3701
04:14:45,100 --> 04:14:46,100
transit, we don't have an intercity

3702
04:14:46,100 --> 04:14:47,100
transit, and that is because we are not

3703
04:14:47,100 --> 04:14:48,100
dense enough, we are sprawled out over

3704
04:14:48,100 --> 04:14:51,601
all over Pierce's well document thatBy

3705
04:14:53,100 --> 04:14:54,100
identifying that will lead to intercity

3706
04:14:54,100 --> 04:14:58,100
traffic which I and many others look

3707
04:14:58,100 --> 04:14:59,100
forward to which would then make the

3708
04:14:59,100 --> 04:15:01,401
community transit "Commuting transit,

3709
04:15:12,100 --> 04:15:13,100
people who want to get from one place

3710
04:15:13,100 --> 04:15:14,100
to the next without wandering around

3711
04:15:14,100 --> 04:15:15,100
town, that's a very exciting thing.

3712
04:15:15,100 --> 04:15:16,100
It's also been mentioned that during

3713
04:15:16,100 --> 04:15:17,100
construction people saw this incredible

3714
04:15:17,100 --> 04:15:19,100
trafficCongestion and delays, people

3715
04:15:19,100 --> 04:15:20,100
are waiting at least another couple of

3716
04:15:20,100 --> 04:15:24,801
minutes to get to their homes, It is

3717
04:15:26,100 --> 04:15:27,100
interesting with his well documented

3718
04:15:27,100 --> 04:15:30,100
also that is not a fair test of what it

3719
04:15:30,100 --> 04:15:31,100
would look like with improvements. It

3720
04:15:31,100 --> 04:15:34,100
was a permit changes, we adjust our

3721
04:15:34,100 --> 04:15:38,201
behavior.If Heller ramps are there, not

3722
04:15:47,100 --> 04:15:48,100
if, when they are there, that will

3723
04:15:48,100 --> 04:15:51,601
create another option for people get

3724
04:15:53,100 --> 04:15:54,100
directly home, etc. That some of the

3725
04:15:54,100 --> 04:15:55,100
comments I have at this time, I'm sure

3726
04:15:55,100 --> 04:15:58,100
the rest of the board will also have

3727
04:15:58,100 --> 04:15:59,100
more comments but I wanted to go ahead

3728
04:15:59,100 --> 04:16:04,100
make a motion at this time. It's not to

3729
04:16:04,100 --> 04:16:05,100
shut down discussion, because often we

3730
04:16:05,100 --> 04:16:06,100
will make a motion if there's a second,

3731
04:16:06,100 --> 04:16:07,100
others were discussion. I wanted to go

3732
04:16:07,100 --> 04:16:10,100
ahead and just go ahead andMake a

3733
04:16:10,100 --> 04:16:13,100
motion at this timeTo basically improve

3734
04:16:13,100 --> 04:16:16,601
staff recommendation, which is to adopt

3735
04:16:21,100 --> 04:16:22,100
the resolution to certify the

3736
04:16:22,100 --> 04:16:23,100
environmental impact report and pending

3737
04:16:23,100 --> 04:16:24,100
adoption of the statement of overriding

3738
04:16:24,100 --> 04:16:25,100
consideration for the Towncenter zoning

3739
04:16:25,100 --> 04:16:28,100
amendment ordinance and to adopt the

3740
04:16:28,100 --> 04:16:29,100
mitigation monitoring the reporting

3741
04:16:29,100 --> 04:16:32,601
programAnd to adopt the resolution to

3742
04:16:34,100 --> 04:16:37,601
make all required for end-user approval

3743
04:16:39,100 --> 04:16:40,100
and zoning ordinance amendment to

3744
04:16:40,100 --> 04:16:41,100
change the zoning of the town center to

3745
04:16:41,100 --> 04:16:45,100
mixed-use with the Q Zone overlay to

3746
04:16:45,100 --> 04:16:47,100
develop criteria and adopt the

3747
04:16:47,100 --> 04:16:51,201
ordinance to mixed-use with the Q Zone

3748
04:16:55,100 --> 04:16:56,100
overlay to establish development

3749
04:16:56,100 --> 04:16:59,601
criteria and also, very important, to

3750
04:17:01,100 --> 04:17:02,100
add to this, planning commission

3751
04:17:02,100 --> 04:17:03,100
recommendation for a comprehensive

3752
04:17:03,100 --> 04:17:05,401
circulation planAnd coordination of

3753
04:17:12,100 --> 04:17:13,100
that development process and review

3754
04:17:13,100 --> 04:17:16,100
with the kid LouisvilleService district

3755
04:17:22,100 --> 04:17:23,100
and community. In a way that does with

3756
04:17:23,100 --> 04:17:24,100
a lot of people ask for which is

3757
04:17:24,100 --> 04:17:25,100
bifurcate this. That was the end of our

3758
04:17:25,100 --> 04:17:26,100
motion, and that is will point out that

3759
04:17:26,100 --> 04:17:27,100
whatever we do, Whatever that looks

3760
04:17:27,100 --> 04:17:30,601
like in terms of traffic calmingDetails

3761
04:17:32,100 --> 04:17:33,100
, This will not happen overnight. It

3762
04:17:33,100 --> 04:17:37,801
took us(INAUDIBLE) so we will work with

3763
04:17:48,100 --> 04:17:49,100
age,, we look for grants, and that will

3764
04:17:49,100 --> 04:17:54,401
take some time, but we will get it right

3765
04:17:59,100 --> 04:18:00,100
, We will figure out how to make it

3766
04:18:00,100 --> 04:18:01,100
safe for convenience and cars and add

3767
04:18:01,100 --> 04:18:02,100
pedestrians and bicyclists. I hope we

3768
04:18:02,100 --> 04:18:03,100
all stay committed to that low-grade

3769
04:18:03,100 --> 04:18:05,100
opportunity.

3770
04:18:06,100 --> 04:18:07,100
>>Second, if I could speak to my motion

3771
04:18:07,100 --> 04:18:09,100
that would be great. First of all,I

3772
04:18:09,100 --> 04:18:13,100
wanted to confirm to everybody that we

3773
04:18:13,100 --> 04:18:14,100
received a lot of comments and read a

3774
04:18:14,100 --> 04:18:17,100
lot of emailsAnd receive some phone

3775
04:18:17,100 --> 04:18:21,100
calls all things. From allOf us who

3776
04:18:21,100 --> 04:18:24,601
consider ourselves regularAnd all of us

3777
04:18:26,100 --> 04:18:27,100
who consider ourselves irregular which

3778
04:18:27,100 --> 04:18:28,100
I suppose is everybody in Humboldt

3779
04:18:28,100 --> 04:18:32,801
County.And I will say that there was

3780
04:18:35,100 --> 04:18:39,801
just a lot of, What was reflected in

3781
04:18:48,100 --> 04:18:49,100
the comments was the amount of time

3782
04:18:49,100 --> 04:18:50,100
people spent knowing on this, but I

3783
04:18:50,100 --> 04:18:51,100
don't mean just the remote issue but

3784
04:18:51,100 --> 04:18:52,100
all the other parts as well. There's an

3785
04:18:52,100 --> 04:18:54,401
interesting comment and criticism,

3786
04:18:56,100 --> 04:18:58,100
John, of the ministerial nature of the,

3787
04:18:58,100 --> 04:19:02,801
I want to, of the process for the

3788
04:19:04,100 --> 04:19:05,100
development or redevelopment of some of

3789
04:19:05,100 --> 04:19:07,100
these properties in this form based

3790
04:19:07,100 --> 04:19:10,601
code. Could you just. There's a

3791
04:19:24,100 --> 04:19:25,100
positive and negative do this in some

3792
04:19:25,100 --> 04:19:26,100
people's minds which one is especially

3793
04:19:26,100 --> 04:19:27,100
in California, a lot of other places

3794
04:19:27,100 --> 04:19:28,100
have been criticized we slow down the

3795
04:19:28,100 --> 04:19:30,100
development decision agree that

3796
04:19:30,100 --> 04:19:32,100
Processes themselves to allow for that

3797
04:19:32,100 --> 04:19:35,601
of new housingAnd one who's inThis

3798
04:19:44,100 --> 04:19:45,100
(INAUDIBLE) based process, so can you

3799
04:19:45,100 --> 04:19:46,100
summarize that so we can understand a

3800
04:19:46,100 --> 04:19:50,801
little bit?Favorite a.In part of our

3801
04:19:54,100 --> 04:19:55,100
general planning we are required to do

3802
04:19:55,100 --> 04:19:58,601
itIs remove encumbrances. There a lot

3803
04:20:05,100 --> 04:20:08,601
of time for housing development this

3804
04:20:11,100 --> 04:20:12,100
requires discretionary items. So

3805
04:20:12,100 --> 04:20:14,100
McKinleyville community plan,

3806
04:20:15,100 --> 04:20:16,100
identified there should be a design

3807
04:20:16,100 --> 04:20:18,100
review committee establishedTo create

3808
04:20:18,100 --> 04:20:20,401
guidelinesFor a developmentWithin the

3809
04:20:24,100 --> 04:20:28,100
town center.So the committee was to

3810
04:20:28,100 --> 04:20:29,100
create the guidelines..

3811
04:20:29,100 --> 04:20:33,201
>>But then the place is something a

3812
04:20:37,100 --> 04:20:40,100
little different.It says (INAUDIBLE).

3813
04:20:42,100 --> 04:20:44,100
Normally when you have design review,

3814
04:20:44,100 --> 04:20:47,100
it includes a requirementFor special

3815
04:20:47,100 --> 04:20:50,601
permit.So interpreting that, what that

3816
04:20:55,100 --> 04:20:56,100
means is we don't have the

3817
04:20:56,100 --> 04:20:59,100
discretionary process. What will happen

3818
04:21:01,100 --> 04:21:04,601
when development comes in is thatThe

3819
04:21:05,100 --> 04:21:07,100
style of development, the way it's laid

3820
04:21:07,100 --> 04:21:09,100
out

3821
04:21:17,100 --> 04:21:20,100
>>(INAUDIBLE). It will be, what

3822
04:21:27,100 --> 04:21:28,100
happened to the plate of building

3823
04:21:28,100 --> 04:21:30,100
department, on application comes in,

3824
04:21:30,100 --> 04:21:33,100
they gets referred to a bunch of

3825
04:21:33,100 --> 04:21:37,201
different places, and one of those. The

3826
04:21:38,100 --> 04:21:41,601
plannerTo ever for the ordinance. It

3827
04:21:48,100 --> 04:21:49,100
will be looking at the development to

3828
04:21:49,100 --> 04:21:52,601
ensure all those criteriaThat are in

3829
04:21:53,100 --> 04:21:55,100
this ordinance are being complied with

3830
04:21:55,100 --> 04:21:56,100
and the way it's laid out are being

3831
04:21:56,100 --> 04:22:00,100
complied with.And that this is a site

3832
04:22:00,100 --> 04:22:04,201
plan, includes the run-up with theSo it

3833
04:22:12,100 --> 04:22:13,100
went pretty much a parking income

3834
04:22:13,100 --> 04:22:16,601
notices very clear,Except for willfully

3835
04:22:22,100 --> 04:22:23,100
Fayetteville family residential and

3836
04:22:23,100 --> 04:22:26,100
even then it's limited.That will all

3837
04:22:26,100 --> 04:22:29,601
get reviewed before the drilling permit.

3838
04:22:41,100 --> 04:22:42,100
I do want to point out for comparison

3839
04:22:42,100 --> 04:22:43,100
that's not really a change from

3840
04:22:43,100 --> 04:22:44,100
existing conditions.

3841
04:22:44,100 --> 04:22:45,100
This is not a streamlining element of

3842
04:22:45,100 --> 04:22:46,100
this. I guess the concern was the

3843
04:22:46,100 --> 04:22:50,201
community would have less of an input

3844
04:22:52,100 --> 04:22:53,100
What you're trying to streamline

3845
04:22:53,100 --> 04:22:57,201
things, just to. Are we going to

3846
04:22:59,100 --> 04:23:02,100
streamline this process or not?

3847
04:23:07,100 --> 04:23:11,201
>>It'sMy want to look at any process

3848
04:23:17,100 --> 04:23:18,100
that's possible.

3849
04:23:18,100 --> 04:23:19,100
>>I agree with the findings, they were

3850
04:23:19,100 --> 04:23:22,601
well-written, I think they speakTo what

3851
04:23:25,100 --> 04:23:26,100
we are trying to do in Humboldt County.

3852
04:23:26,100 --> 04:23:27,100
I want to speak to every single comment

3853
04:23:27,100 --> 04:23:29,100
, whether you are for or against the

3854
04:23:29,100 --> 04:23:32,601
particular part of this project, Was

3855
04:23:40,100 --> 04:23:41,100
made because everybody wants a better,

3856
04:23:41,100 --> 04:23:42,100
healthier, happier community to live

3857
04:23:42,100 --> 04:23:43,100
in, I think we just sometimes disagree

3858
04:23:43,100 --> 04:23:45,100
on strategy to get there, but in

3859
04:23:45,100 --> 04:23:46,100
general, everybody really wants the

3860
04:23:46,100 --> 04:23:50,201
same thing.I personally am not as

3861
04:23:54,100 --> 04:23:55,100
enthused the supervisor Madrone about

3862
04:23:55,100 --> 04:23:58,601
doing another traffic study. If that's

3863
04:24:07,100 --> 04:24:08,100
what gets this over the hope that I

3864
04:24:08,100 --> 04:24:09,100
think that's the way we go. I think the

3865
04:24:09,100 --> 04:24:10,100
traffic study that was done is pretty

3866
04:24:10,100 --> 04:24:13,100
comprehensive, I think thatIt looks that

3867
04:24:13,100 --> 04:24:14,100
Almost everything you would want to in

3868
04:24:14,100 --> 04:24:17,100
thisAndAgain, More importantly, I want

3869
04:24:21,100 --> 04:24:24,100
toEncourage, Again, more development, a

3870
04:24:28,100 --> 04:24:29,100
redevelopment of the town centers

3871
04:24:29,100 --> 04:24:32,601
possible.I don't want traffic study

3872
04:24:45,100 --> 04:24:46,100
that will come up with the same results

3873
04:24:46,100 --> 04:24:47,100
to slow things down. With that I am

3874
04:24:47,100 --> 04:24:48,100
still supportive of the motionAs it

3875
04:24:48,100 --> 04:24:50,100
stands.

3876
04:24:57,100 --> 04:24:58,100
>>Supervisor Arroyo?

3877
04:24:58,100 --> 04:24:59,100
>>I concur, was ready to approve staff

3878
04:24:59,100 --> 04:25:00,100
recommendation, I know you don't want

3879
04:25:00,100 --> 04:25:04,201
to slow down the process, it's been 6+

3880
04:25:05,100 --> 04:25:06,100
years, much longer than that, that this

3881
04:25:06,100 --> 04:25:07,100
has been envisioned and it sounds like

3882
04:25:07,100 --> 04:25:08,100
before that many of the folks who are

3883
04:25:08,100 --> 04:25:09,100
hereIn the room today are have reached

3884
04:25:09,100 --> 04:25:13,201
out to usWere opposed to the design

3885
04:25:14,100 --> 04:25:18,201
changesThat we now have. I think we

3886
04:25:22,100 --> 04:25:23,100
have seen enough time go by, we have

3887
04:25:23,100 --> 04:25:25,401
learned lessons aboutTraffic decided

3888
04:25:26,100 --> 04:25:30,201
road safety that we didn't know before,

3889
04:25:32,100 --> 04:25:33,100
And I also as the resident millennial

3890
04:25:33,100 --> 04:25:37,801
on this board, You said you wanted to

3891
04:25:39,100 --> 04:25:43,100
hear from long young folks, I abatedA

3892
04:25:43,100 --> 04:25:44,100
lot of people my age and much younger

3893
04:25:44,100 --> 04:25:48,201
than me, some who have resuscitated in

3894
04:25:49,100 --> 04:25:50,100
the public process and some who have

3895
04:25:50,100 --> 04:25:51,100
not and are really excited about the

3896
04:25:51,100 --> 04:25:52,100
density of the multimodal improvements

3897
04:25:52,100 --> 04:25:56,801
That are proposed.I heard both that you

3898
04:25:59,100 --> 04:26:00,100
have to have lived in the community for

3899
04:26:00,100 --> 04:26:01,100
40 or 50 years or you have to be under

3900
04:26:01,100 --> 04:26:05,201
a certain age. In the Louisville we

3901
04:26:06,100 --> 04:26:07,100
have heard from both folks in both

3902
04:26:07,100 --> 04:26:10,100
those categories. So I appreciate all

3903
04:26:10,100 --> 04:26:12,100
the community input, but I wrote a

3904
04:26:12,100 --> 04:26:14,100
ready to hopefully move forward and

3905
04:26:14,100 --> 04:26:16,401
make this processMove along.

3906
04:26:22,100 --> 04:26:24,100
>>Supervisor Bohn?

3907
04:26:24,100 --> 04:26:26,100
>>I have made myself clear. I can count

3908
04:26:26,100 --> 04:26:27,100
to three. Maybe more.

3909
04:26:27,100 --> 04:26:28,100
>>Supervisor Madrone?

3910
04:26:28,100 --> 04:26:32,201
>>Thank you, chair, just to be clear,

3911
04:26:39,100 --> 04:26:40,100
John, this condition I have added to

3912
04:26:40,100 --> 04:26:41,100
the staff recommendation for the

3913
04:26:41,100 --> 04:26:42,100
comprehensive circulation plan,

3914
04:26:42,100 --> 04:26:43,100
coordination all designs with CSDIn

3915
04:26:43,100 --> 04:26:46,100
Micmac, That doesn't stop Towncenter

3916
04:26:48,100 --> 04:26:51,100
ordinance are being implemented, it's a

3917
04:26:51,100 --> 04:26:54,100
separate issue because my attention was

3918
04:26:54,100 --> 04:26:58,201
While it's included in the motion, I

3919
04:26:59,100 --> 04:27:00,100
think we may have to take some time to

3920
04:27:00,100 --> 04:27:04,100
get that final item doneIs not my

3921
04:27:04,100 --> 04:27:05,100
intention and emotion that I made to

3922
04:27:05,100 --> 04:27:06,100
cause it to delayThe implementation of

3923
04:27:06,100 --> 04:27:07,100
theTown center. Can you clarify that?

3924
04:27:07,100 --> 04:27:11,201
>>I did understand that, but perhaps it

3925
04:27:13,100 --> 04:27:15,100
would help to clarifyThat prior to

3926
04:27:15,100 --> 04:27:17,401
implementationOf the central Avenue

3927
04:27:24,100 --> 04:27:25,100
Improvements that the study would be

3928
04:27:25,100 --> 04:27:28,601
completed and be reviewedBy the Micmac

3929
04:27:33,100 --> 04:27:34,100
And the MCS D.

3930
04:27:34,100 --> 04:27:35,100
>>I would add that to my motion that

3931
04:27:35,100 --> 04:27:36,100
prior to the implementation of the,

3932
04:27:36,100 --> 04:27:39,601
These things would be done. That

3933
04:27:47,100 --> 04:27:48,100
clarifies the rest of it can move

3934
04:27:48,100 --> 04:27:49,100
forward. If approved by this board.

3935
04:27:49,100 --> 04:27:50,100
>>Correct.

3936
04:27:50,100 --> 04:27:51,100
>>I would make that change.

3937
04:27:51,100 --> 04:27:52,100
>>Secondary is okay with that, but still

3938
04:27:52,100 --> 04:27:54,100
I have lived without it.

3939
04:27:54,100 --> 04:27:57,100
>>So I just want toRe-questionData

3940
04:27:59,100 --> 04:28:02,601
traffic studyWould be different. I mean

3941
04:28:08,100 --> 04:28:09,100
I, as well, don't want to do it just

3942
04:28:09,100 --> 04:28:13,201
becauseThat is what people say needs to

3943
04:28:15,100 --> 04:28:16,100
happen if there is one out there that

3944
04:28:16,100 --> 04:28:18,100
is comprehensiveAnd sufficient.

3945
04:28:22,100 --> 04:28:26,201
>>I think thatThere are, I mean, we

3946
04:28:35,100 --> 04:28:36,100
will have a better sense of what's

3947
04:28:36,100 --> 04:28:37,100
going to happen going forward before we

3948
04:28:37,100 --> 04:28:41,201
get to the study. And soIfHiller is

3949
04:28:42,100 --> 04:28:43,100
going to happen than the traffic

3950
04:28:43,100 --> 04:28:45,100
analysis will greatly benefit everybody

3951
04:28:45,100 --> 04:28:48,601
In understanding the benefits. I think

3952
04:28:50,100 --> 04:28:53,601
it would be beneficial toUnderstand how

3953
04:28:55,100 --> 04:28:58,601
central Avenue as a whole functions,

3954
04:29:01,100 --> 04:29:02,100
Because there are areas of that road

3955
04:29:02,100 --> 04:29:05,601
that are far busierThe their forebears.

3956
04:29:06,100 --> 04:29:07,100
So to understand where the most

3957
04:29:07,100 --> 04:29:08,100
significantAverage daily trips are

3958
04:29:08,100 --> 04:29:11,601
locatedVersus where the number of trips

3959
04:29:13,100 --> 04:29:16,100
that are actuallyMaking it all the way

3960
04:29:16,100 --> 04:29:19,601
through the town center, It would

3961
04:29:22,100 --> 04:29:23,100
probably be helpful to know that, I

3962
04:29:23,100 --> 04:29:25,100
think intuitively probablyPeople feel

3963
04:29:25,100 --> 04:29:29,201
like they understand that, But it would

3964
04:29:30,100 --> 04:29:32,100
really be about putting that into a

3965
04:29:32,100 --> 04:29:35,100
study, Collecting the amount of traffic

3966
04:29:35,100 --> 04:29:39,201
on the roadAnd truly being able to

3967
04:29:41,100 --> 04:29:42,100
quantify that.

3968
04:29:42,100 --> 04:29:43,100
>>Okay, that makes sense to me. I do

3969
04:29:43,100 --> 04:29:47,801
want to say, Supervisor Mo, you want to

3970
04:29:48,100 --> 04:29:51,100
say something else?It's hard being the

3971
04:29:51,100 --> 04:29:55,801
chair.Whether three or four of us or

3972
04:30:02,100 --> 04:30:03,100
all of us end up voting for this, I

3973
04:30:03,100 --> 04:30:04,100
think anything anyone can do in today's

3974
04:30:04,100 --> 04:30:05,100
economic world to try to improve your

3975
04:30:05,100 --> 04:30:08,100
communityFrom southern Humboldt, I live

3976
04:30:10,100 --> 04:30:11,100
in southern Humboldt I was born and

3977
04:30:11,100 --> 04:30:15,201
raised there and my district is the

3978
04:30:17,100 --> 04:30:18,100
second district that I've seen so many

3979
04:30:18,100 --> 04:30:19,100
changes in southern Humboldt and empty

3980
04:30:19,100 --> 04:30:22,100
storefronts right now, I've been to

3981
04:30:22,100 --> 04:30:23,100
McKinleyville, my grandson plays

3982
04:30:23,100 --> 04:30:27,201
baseball so I've gone up there for

3983
04:30:28,100 --> 04:30:29,100
sporting events and have seen a lot of

3984
04:30:29,100 --> 04:30:30,100
change. I don't go for five years at a

3985
04:30:30,100 --> 04:30:33,100
time sometimes and so I was kind of

3986
04:30:33,100 --> 04:30:34,100
shocked the last time I was up there to

3987
04:30:34,100 --> 04:30:37,100
see the amount of emptySpace is up there

3988
04:30:37,100 --> 04:30:41,100
And to see, I think it's a U-Haul where

3989
04:30:41,100 --> 04:30:42,100
Kmart used to be in those areas that

3990
04:30:42,100 --> 04:30:44,401
aren't really conduciveOf bringing

3991
04:30:45,100 --> 04:30:47,100
people to your town to shopAnd to spend

3992
04:30:47,100 --> 04:30:52,401
money, And I know that it's, I can feel

3993
04:30:54,100 --> 04:30:57,100
it from you folks that it's painful to

3994
04:30:57,100 --> 04:30:58,100
have changes to think about reducing

3995
04:30:58,100 --> 04:31:02,201
your commuteIn time and this is going

3996
04:31:06,100 --> 04:31:07,100
to be a pain in the butt that I'm going

3997
04:31:07,100 --> 04:31:08,100
to sit here in traffic and all the

3998
04:31:08,100 --> 04:31:09,100
things, but in my own districtI would

3999
04:31:09,100 --> 04:31:11,401
really relishSomething, and we

4000
04:31:14,100 --> 04:31:15,100
struggled to find that we have been

4001
04:31:15,100 --> 04:31:16,100
searching for it in that area to really

4002
04:31:16,100 --> 04:31:18,100
bring people into our town, If you go

4003
04:31:18,100 --> 04:31:21,100
to Garberville, it's two lanes a very

4004
04:31:21,100 --> 04:31:24,601
wide streetsAnd they are not, They

4005
04:31:27,100 --> 04:31:28,100
don't have the lines down them so you

4006
04:31:28,100 --> 04:31:30,100
get people, To people trying to go down

4007
04:31:30,100 --> 04:31:34,100
one lane and it's a mess.But I just

4008
04:31:34,100 --> 04:31:37,100
want to say thatBeing a

4009
04:31:38,100 --> 04:31:40,100
brick-and-mortar right now is superhard

4010
04:31:40,100 --> 04:31:44,201
and with Amazon and all those things

4011
04:31:49,100 --> 04:31:50,100
That delivered a people storefronts,

4012
04:31:50,100 --> 04:31:51,100
it's not about the Kmart in the world

4013
04:31:51,100 --> 04:31:52,100
are the target in the world or those

4014
04:31:52,100 --> 04:31:53,100
bigger box stores, it's really aboutThe

4015
04:31:53,100 --> 04:31:56,100
feelIn the diningThe small mom-and-pop

4016
04:31:56,100 --> 04:31:58,100
said the experience that really bring

4017
04:31:58,100 --> 04:32:02,201
people inAnd walk from store to store

4018
04:32:04,100 --> 04:32:08,201
and have that really good feel, and

4019
04:32:13,100 --> 04:32:14,100
like I said, I want to get from point a

4020
04:32:14,100 --> 04:32:15,100
to be very quickly. I hate traveling, I

4021
04:32:15,100 --> 04:32:17,100
am tired of trying all the things. But

4022
04:32:17,100 --> 04:32:19,100
if you can add to your communityAnd

4023
04:32:19,100 --> 04:32:22,100
reallyEntice people into your community

4024
04:32:24,100 --> 04:32:25,100
to spend time there and spend money

4025
04:32:25,100 --> 04:32:30,100
there, In such a plus, And I went to

4026
04:32:30,100 --> 04:32:31,100
different areas lately and saw where

4027
04:32:31,100 --> 04:32:34,100
they locked up whole streets and have

4028
04:32:34,100 --> 04:32:37,100
this shopping community there, shopping

4029
04:32:41,100 --> 04:32:42,100
center, they don't allow cars and all

4030
04:32:42,100 --> 04:32:43,100
of the war and I thought to myself this

4031
04:32:43,100 --> 04:32:45,100
is great, I can walk from blockade to

4032
04:32:45,100 --> 04:32:48,100
block Ted and it's a big old experience.

4033
04:32:48,100 --> 04:32:52,201
It was hacked and pulledOf people and

4034
04:32:57,100 --> 04:32:58,100
spending money, and bring it from the

4035
04:32:58,100 --> 04:32:59,100
law of southern Humboldt that's failing

4036
04:32:59,100 --> 04:33:02,100
economically and businesses are closing

4037
04:33:07,100 --> 04:33:08,100
, there are two more businesses closing

4038
04:33:08,100 --> 04:33:09,100
at the end of this month ended

4039
04:33:09,100 --> 04:33:10,100
December. Just really sad for me. I've

4040
04:33:10,100 --> 04:33:11,100
been there my whole life and seen a lot

4041
04:33:11,100 --> 04:33:13,100
of changes and never seated as bad as

4042
04:33:13,100 --> 04:33:14,100
it is right now. If you think your

4043
04:33:14,100 --> 04:33:16,100
community is not going to be affected,

4044
04:33:16,100 --> 04:33:17,100
Is strictly down pretty quickly these

4045
04:33:17,100 --> 04:33:21,801
days.So I can't answer your question, I

4046
04:33:23,100 --> 04:33:24,100
am sorry, sir, but I just want to say

4047
04:33:24,100 --> 04:33:27,100
that I've heard you allAnd I do take it

4048
04:33:27,100 --> 04:33:31,100
very seriously and I hope that this

4049
04:33:31,100 --> 04:33:32,100
transition will be a good word for

4050
04:33:32,100 --> 04:33:35,601
McKinleyvilleAnd just want you to know,

4051
04:33:36,100 --> 04:33:40,801
I don't live in your community.But I

4052
04:33:42,100 --> 04:33:43,100
really relish and what can make humble

4053
04:33:43,100 --> 04:33:46,100
better. That's about all I have.

4054
04:33:46,100 --> 04:33:48,100
Supervisor Madrone?Is ready to vote.

4055
04:33:48,100 --> 04:33:51,100
Okay.Supervisor Arroyo. Permit thank

4056
04:33:57,100 --> 04:33:58,100
you. Just a Hail Mary at the end here.

4057
04:33:58,100 --> 04:34:01,100
I heard a possible if then statementAnd

4058
04:34:01,100 --> 04:34:02,100
what you are saying, Director Ford,

4059
04:34:02,100 --> 04:34:05,100
about the CaltransAnd Hiller Road

4060
04:34:05,100 --> 04:34:08,601
connection to the freewayPeter, I will

4061
04:34:09,100 --> 04:34:12,100
in the various, that you understood

4062
04:34:12,100 --> 04:34:15,100
quickly, youYou would (INAUDIBLE) in

4063
04:34:18,100 --> 04:34:19,100
the near future with that component,

4064
04:34:19,100 --> 04:34:23,801
then, A new traffic study would be a

4065
04:34:29,100 --> 04:34:30,100
helpful tool?

4066
04:34:30,100 --> 04:34:31,100
>>Yes.

4067
04:34:31,100 --> 04:34:32,100
>>But if they're not the study itself

4068
04:34:32,100 --> 04:34:34,100
likeWould be similar to the existing

4069
04:34:34,100 --> 04:34:35,100
conditions of the already have a study

4070
04:34:35,100 --> 04:34:37,100
for.

4071
04:34:51,100 --> 04:34:52,100
>>A clarification. Her meeting with

4072
04:34:52,100 --> 04:34:53,100
Trout Caltrans they mentioned that they

4073
04:34:53,100 --> 04:34:57,201
were not only doing the userBut that

4074
04:34:59,100 --> 04:35:00,100
they were embarking on a major highway

4075
04:35:00,100 --> 04:35:03,100
101 study in that area of Arcata in

4076
04:35:03,100 --> 04:35:04,100
North County and they were now going to

4077
04:35:04,100 --> 04:35:06,100
includeThe idea of these ramps at

4078
04:35:06,100 --> 04:35:09,601
Heller RoadInto that study. That's the

4079
04:35:10,100 --> 04:35:14,801
first to. The outcome of all that which

4080
04:35:19,100 --> 04:35:20,100
they seem to be supportive of, several

4081
04:35:20,100 --> 04:35:21,100
staff said while, why had we thought

4082
04:35:21,100 --> 04:35:22,100
about this before, frankly?It is in

4083
04:35:22,100 --> 04:35:25,601
process as we speak.That's a

4084
04:35:29,100 --> 04:35:30,100
multifaceted effort is going to have to

4085
04:35:30,100 --> 04:35:33,601
happen again, will probably take 10 to

4086
04:35:35,100 --> 04:35:36,100
15 years to get through the stiff

4087
04:35:36,100 --> 04:35:39,100
process the "To do that.

4088
04:35:48,100 --> 04:35:49,100
>>Through the chair, this brings up an

4089
04:35:49,100 --> 04:35:51,100
interesting question becauseSplitting

4090
04:35:56,100 --> 04:35:57,100
up their 10 to 15 years, does that mean

4091
04:35:57,100 --> 04:35:58,100
that this study doesn't happen for 10

4092
04:35:58,100 --> 04:35:59,100
or 15 years and if within the next

4093
04:35:59,100 --> 04:36:01,100
decadeThere is money that comes down,

4094
04:36:01,100 --> 04:36:02,100
say, an earmark or something to deal

4095
04:36:02,100 --> 04:36:05,100
withCentral forward, are we, then,

4096
04:36:06,100 --> 04:36:09,601
waiting forA traffic study that will

4097
04:36:21,100 --> 04:36:22,100
happen for 10 to 15 years?

4098
04:36:22,100 --> 04:36:23,100
>>I'm going to enter up because I

4099
04:36:23,100 --> 04:36:24,100
skipped over supervisor Madrone. I'm

4100
04:36:24,100 --> 04:36:25,100
sorry, I said we would go to him after

4101
04:36:25,100 --> 04:36:26,100
me and I completely forgot. We will

4102
04:36:26,100 --> 04:36:27,100
finish and they will go to supervisor

4103
04:36:27,100 --> 04:36:30,601
Bohn.I'm just saying that theRamps

4104
04:36:47,100 --> 04:36:48,100
might affect circulation in

4105
04:36:48,100 --> 04:36:49,100
McKinleyville. I would assume that can

4106
04:36:49,100 --> 04:36:52,100
be done a lot super "Sooner than 10 to

4107
04:36:52,100 --> 04:36:56,801
15 years. It would be an H, the funded

4108
04:37:08,100 --> 04:37:09,100
effort more than likely to strive to

4109
04:37:09,100 --> 04:37:10,100
move that additional planning study to

4110
04:37:10,100 --> 04:37:11,100
completion. We've done a lot of work,

4111
04:37:11,100 --> 04:37:12,100
as Tom said, through the efforts that

4112
04:37:12,100 --> 04:37:13,100
have already occurred. This never came

4113
04:37:13,100 --> 04:37:14,100
up during that study.

4114
04:37:14,100 --> 04:37:15,100
Through the chair, I have a question.

4115
04:37:15,100 --> 04:37:16,100
Could that studyBe started with I guess

4116
04:37:16,100 --> 04:37:19,100
an alternateWhatever, reality, I guess

4117
04:37:23,100 --> 04:37:26,100
you would say, whether is that

4118
04:37:26,100 --> 04:37:29,100
Infrastructure has been put in, I don't

4119
04:37:29,100 --> 04:37:33,100
want us to delay and hold off for 10 or

4120
04:37:33,100 --> 04:37:36,100
15 years moving forward a decision

4121
04:37:44,100 --> 04:37:45,100
waiting for some other agency to do

4122
04:37:45,100 --> 04:37:46,100
this.

4123
04:37:46,100 --> 04:37:47,100
>>I wish we had had an information

4124
04:37:47,100 --> 04:37:48,100
before. I wasn't in those meetings, I

4125
04:37:48,100 --> 04:37:49,100
apologize for that.

4126
04:37:49,100 --> 04:37:51,100
>>I'm going to just, I'm going to

4127
04:37:51,100 --> 04:37:52,100
promote you to supervisor, maybe

4128
04:37:52,100 --> 04:37:53,100
Director Madsen has something to say

4129
04:37:53,100 --> 04:37:54,100
behind you.

4130
04:37:54,100 --> 04:37:55,100
>>Let me say this. It would be

4131
04:37:55,100 --> 04:37:58,100
beneficial to do the study before that

4132
04:37:58,100 --> 04:38:02,201
And use that as incentive for Caltrans

4133
04:38:03,100 --> 04:38:07,100
To really take it were seriously. So if

4134
04:38:07,100 --> 04:38:08,100
we are sinners a study within a couple

4135
04:38:08,100 --> 04:38:12,100
of yearsAnd then pass that off to

4136
04:38:12,100 --> 04:38:13,100
Caltrans showing the difference it

4137
04:38:13,100 --> 04:38:16,601
would make with the moon McKinleyville,

4138
04:38:18,100 --> 04:38:21,601
that may give us a priority.

4139
04:38:25,100 --> 04:38:28,100
>>Supervisor Manson said he concurs.

4140
04:38:31,100 --> 04:38:32,100
>>I appreciate that and I'm glad we are

4141
04:38:32,100 --> 04:38:33,100
having that clarification, but that

4142
04:38:33,100 --> 04:38:36,601
study would probably haveAt minimum two

4143
04:38:37,100 --> 04:38:38,100
alternatives, one where against Bill

4144
04:38:38,100 --> 04:38:41,601
Woodward doesn't get built.Thank you.

4145
04:38:46,100 --> 04:38:48,401
>>Supervisor Oreo. No! Supervisor

4146
04:38:50,100 --> 04:38:51,100
Madrone! Bohn!

4147
04:38:51,100 --> 04:38:52,100
[LAUGHING]

4148
04:38:52,100 --> 04:38:55,100
>>See what I mean? It's getting too

4149
04:38:55,100 --> 04:38:58,100
obvious.Director Ford, you mentioned

4150
04:38:59,100 --> 04:39:02,100
that we are going to changeThere

4151
04:39:02,100 --> 04:39:06,100
driving habits, for good andOne late as

4152
04:39:06,100 --> 04:39:08,100
mentioned, if the love the of

4153
04:39:08,100 --> 04:39:11,100
McKinleyville. Take the airport exit

4154
04:39:21,100 --> 04:39:22,100
and then go to that. Doesn't that shoot

4155
04:39:22,100 --> 04:39:23,100
that, a theory of regular Senate we

4156
04:39:23,100 --> 04:39:24,100
going for the people all the numerator

4157
04:39:24,100 --> 04:39:27,601
is the(INAUDIBLE) I understand you

4158
04:39:42,100 --> 04:39:46,201
can't get everybody else but shop local.

4159
04:40:03,100 --> 04:40:04,100
I am just saying it seems we are

4160
04:40:04,100 --> 04:40:05,100
directing traffic around, we're going

4161
04:40:05,100 --> 04:40:06,100
to make a burden in two minutes, three

4162
04:40:06,100 --> 04:40:10,801
minutes,We make fun of that, but it's.

4163
04:40:19,100 --> 04:40:20,100
If we are trying to change people's

4164
04:40:20,100 --> 04:40:22,100
habits to Mr. Trump etc. what are the

4165
04:40:22,100 --> 04:40:25,601
odd shopping if there. It's about

4166
04:40:30,100 --> 04:40:33,601
people her community in theWhich is

4167
04:40:40,100 --> 04:40:41,100
identifying a sense of place and

4168
04:40:41,100 --> 04:40:43,401
identifyingAnd not just feedthrough.

4169
04:40:52,100 --> 04:40:55,601
During the(INAUDIBLE) there would be

4170
04:41:16,100 --> 04:41:17,100
the storefronts are.

4171
04:41:17,100 --> 04:41:18,100
We are about southern Humboldt, we

4172
04:41:18,100 --> 04:41:19,100
heard about McKinleyville, downtown

4173
04:41:19,100 --> 04:41:20,100
Eureka, Henderson Center, every place I

4174
04:41:20,100 --> 04:41:24,201
can go, there you all wouldThey have

4175
04:41:32,100 --> 04:41:33,100
all done extra storefronts. People are

4176
04:41:33,100 --> 04:41:36,601
buying online but. I wanted tomorrow.

4177
04:41:48,100 --> 04:41:52,201
Case in point . The bypass is wonderful

4178
04:42:04,100 --> 04:42:05,100
because I go to Sacramento. I don't

4179
04:42:05,100 --> 04:42:06,100
know if the McDonald's there likes it

4180
04:42:06,100 --> 04:42:07,100
that much or any of the other stores.

4181
04:42:07,100 --> 04:42:11,801
The wagon wheel..I'm kind of looking at

4182
04:42:17,100 --> 04:42:21,801
reality. We got a wing stop. The mom

4183
04:42:44,100 --> 04:42:45,100
and pops, and I go back, 60 some years

4184
04:42:45,100 --> 04:42:46,100
ago, I was raised in a corner grocery

4185
04:42:46,100 --> 04:42:50,100
store, one cash register,Put Sue to

4186
04:42:50,100 --> 04:42:52,100
sisters through college and my dad said

4187
04:42:52,100 --> 04:42:56,801
we don't make enough to put you through

4188
04:42:59,100 --> 04:43:00,100
college, be a truck driver, and that's

4189
04:43:00,100 --> 04:43:01,100
what I became. I'm saying I believe in

4190
04:43:01,100 --> 04:43:04,100
that mom-and-pop theory, locally owned,

4191
04:43:08,100 --> 04:43:09,100
And I thrive for that day, but I don't

4192
04:43:09,100 --> 04:43:10,100
know that we can never get it back.

4193
04:43:10,100 --> 04:43:12,100
With

4194
04:43:22,100 --> 04:43:25,601
>>There are places, there are towns,

4195
04:43:26,100 --> 04:43:28,100
one of the most vividThat comes to my

4196
04:43:28,100 --> 04:43:32,100
mind was withWhen I was younger, the K

4197
04:43:32,100 --> 04:43:35,601
Street mall in Sacramento. It was

4198
04:43:42,100 --> 04:43:43,100
skidrow, then closed. They turned it

4199
04:43:43,100 --> 04:43:44,100
into a pedestrian promenade. You've

4200
04:43:44,100 --> 04:43:48,201
been down thereRecently and it is a

4201
04:43:49,100 --> 04:43:50,100
beautiful place right now. I remember

4202
04:43:50,100 --> 04:43:51,100
being down there, my parents would not

4203
04:43:51,100 --> 04:43:54,601
let me walk alone.There's other

4204
04:43:56,100 --> 04:43:57,100
examples where you go to places, small

4205
04:43:57,100 --> 04:43:59,100
towns, big towns, where they haveJust

4206
04:43:59,100 --> 04:44:02,100
slow the traffic downAnd re-oriented

4207
04:44:03,100 --> 04:44:05,100
towards creating pedestrian places.

4208
04:44:05,100 --> 04:44:07,100
Where do people stop? Where do they

4209
04:44:07,100 --> 04:44:11,801
hang out?They hang out in places where

4210
04:44:12,100 --> 04:44:16,801
it is conducive for them to just be.

4211
04:44:17,100 --> 04:44:18,100
That's the vision that is being

4212
04:44:18,100 --> 04:44:21,601
presented here.. Another part of the

4213
04:44:22,100 --> 04:44:25,601
vision is there's going to beRetail

4214
04:44:31,100 --> 04:44:32,100
services relationship where people that

4215
04:44:32,100 --> 04:44:34,100
live there don't have to drive to go to

4216
04:44:34,100 --> 04:44:37,100
restaurants, they don't have to drive

4217
04:44:37,100 --> 04:44:40,100
to go to the grocery store.They are

4218
04:44:40,100 --> 04:44:42,100
right there.

4219
04:44:44,100 --> 04:44:47,100
>>Okay, we have a motion and a secondOn

4220
04:44:47,100 --> 04:44:51,201
the table. I am going to allow

4221
04:44:53,100 --> 04:44:54,100
supervisor Arroyo very small comment

4222
04:44:54,100 --> 04:44:55,100
before we cast our votes.

4223
04:44:55,100 --> 04:44:58,601
>>I'm hoping that weMay consider an

4224
04:45:01,100 --> 04:45:04,601
amendment to this motion becauseI would

4225
04:45:06,100 --> 04:45:07,100
vote for it grudgingly right now and I

4226
04:45:07,100 --> 04:45:08,100
would vote for it enthusiasticallyIf it

4227
04:45:08,100 --> 04:45:11,100
wereThe recommendation that came from

4228
04:45:11,100 --> 04:45:15,201
the Micmac and was supported byAt the

4229
04:45:18,100 --> 04:45:19,100
time that it came to the planning

4230
04:45:19,100 --> 04:45:22,601
commissionBy this ESD and the Micmac,

4231
04:45:28,100 --> 04:45:29,100
But then the planning commission did

4232
04:45:29,100 --> 04:45:30,100
add the traffic study, now we are

4233
04:45:30,100 --> 04:45:31,100
hearing there was a full understanding

4234
04:45:31,100 --> 04:45:35,100
of the traffic study and as it stands

4235
04:45:35,100 --> 04:45:36,100
it would be a bit of a duplicate of

4236
04:45:36,100 --> 04:45:39,601
effort and should things change, it

4237
04:45:40,100 --> 04:45:41,100
might add additional insight, but right

4238
04:45:41,100 --> 04:45:46,100
now, I don't want us to do the workOf a

4239
04:45:46,100 --> 04:45:47,100
traffic study that's precipitated by

4240
04:45:47,100 --> 04:45:50,601
Caltrans change, I prefer that they

4241
04:45:52,100 --> 04:45:53,100
find that working I don't really want

4242
04:45:53,100 --> 04:45:56,100
to bifurcate this projectWhich is about

4243
04:45:56,100 --> 04:45:59,100
the entire sense of placeAnd is a

4244
04:45:59,100 --> 04:46:02,100
cohesive packageIf the study that we

4245
04:46:02,100 --> 04:46:06,201
are going to be requiring to make

4246
04:46:10,100 --> 04:46:11,100
changes is going to duplicate what we

4247
04:46:11,100 --> 04:46:12,100
already have. I hope that makes sense,

4248
04:46:12,100 --> 04:46:13,100
I would like to suggest that we remove

4249
04:46:13,100 --> 04:46:16,100
that elementAnd if we can't, I am still

4250
04:46:16,100 --> 04:46:17,100
ready to move forward, but I think it's

4251
04:46:17,100 --> 04:46:19,401
going to addUnnecessary cost.

4252
04:46:30,100 --> 04:46:31,100
>>As the motion maker I willing to

4253
04:46:31,100 --> 04:46:32,100
accept that amendment, because here's

4254
04:46:32,100 --> 04:46:33,100
the reason why. Because the

4255
04:46:33,100 --> 04:46:35,401
recommendation forThe raid dietIs

4256
04:46:36,100 --> 04:46:39,601
included in the town center ordinance.

4257
04:46:40,100 --> 04:46:45,401
Road diet.I know there is no way that

4258
04:46:47,100 --> 04:46:48,100
any changes to Central Avenue are going

4259
04:46:48,100 --> 04:46:49,100
to occur without doing additional

4260
04:46:49,100 --> 04:46:51,100
planning in detail, Preliminary

4261
04:46:51,100 --> 04:46:52,100
engineering plans and communications

4262
04:46:52,100 --> 04:46:55,100
with them CSTIn the Micmac in the

4263
04:46:55,100 --> 04:46:59,201
community.So in a way that final

4264
04:47:07,100 --> 04:47:08,100
element I added to staff recommendation

4265
04:47:08,100 --> 04:47:09,100
is duplicative as was used here, so I

4266
04:47:09,100 --> 04:47:10,100
am willing to remove that because I

4267
04:47:10,100 --> 04:47:11,100
know what's going to happen anyway.

4268
04:47:11,100 --> 04:47:12,100
It's really not necessary and if that

4269
04:47:12,100 --> 04:47:13,100
makes it more palatableFor this board I

4270
04:47:13,100 --> 04:47:15,401
am fine with that.

4271
04:47:17,100 --> 04:47:21,201
>>I concur with that, I also appreciate

4272
04:47:22,100 --> 04:47:24,100
The reduction in cost to the county.

4273
04:47:24,100 --> 04:47:26,100
>>Certainly.

4274
04:47:28,100 --> 04:47:29,100
>>Kaylee, because we are changing the

4275
04:47:29,100 --> 04:47:33,201
motion, could we clear off, if anybody

4276
04:47:35,100 --> 04:47:36,100
is voted currently, can we clear that

4277
04:47:36,100 --> 04:47:40,801
off?Also, I just want to confirm thatSo

4278
04:47:41,100 --> 04:47:45,201
if theMS, whatever, Thank you. If they

4279
04:47:49,100 --> 04:47:52,601
want a traffic study doneThrough more

4280
04:47:54,100 --> 04:47:57,100
work as supervisor Madrone says that's

4281
04:47:57,100 --> 04:48:00,601
already in the project, before theRoad

4282
04:48:02,100 --> 04:48:03,100
diet could happen, is that something

4283
04:48:03,100 --> 04:48:06,100
that would happenIf that's what they

4284
04:48:06,100 --> 04:48:07,100
want?

4285
04:48:07,100 --> 04:48:13,100
>>I want to speak for, You made me do it

4286
04:48:13,100 --> 04:48:14,100
, But I mentioned that any future

4287
04:48:14,100 --> 04:48:17,100
designs for centralOr anything that's

4288
04:48:17,100 --> 04:48:20,601
done would be done throughThe Micmac

4289
04:48:23,100 --> 04:48:25,401
and through MCS D.

4290
04:48:28,100 --> 04:48:29,100
>>Director Mattson, can you come up,

4291
04:48:29,100 --> 04:48:33,801
please?I have two questions, the one I

4292
04:48:40,100 --> 04:48:41,100
just posed, and my second question is

4293
04:48:41,100 --> 04:48:45,100
if you do all the studiesThrough the

4294
04:48:45,100 --> 04:48:46,100
process and all the agencies in

4295
04:48:46,100 --> 04:48:49,100
McKinleyville, It does find that you do

4296
04:48:49,100 --> 04:48:51,100
find out this really is notSomething

4297
04:48:51,100 --> 04:48:53,100
that can happenIn McKinleyvilleBy

4298
04:48:53,100 --> 04:48:56,601
reducingThose lanes, that it's going to

4299
04:49:02,100 --> 04:49:03,100
create bigger problems and bigger

4300
04:49:03,100 --> 04:49:04,100
safety issues, what would happen then?

4301
04:49:04,100 --> 04:49:08,801
>>That would come back, It's not my job

4302
04:49:12,100 --> 04:49:13,100
to tell the community what they want,

4303
04:49:13,100 --> 04:49:14,100
is to tell them the impacts of changes

4304
04:49:14,100 --> 04:49:16,100
and what that would do. Right now, you

4305
04:49:16,100 --> 04:49:17,100
have a traffic study that does that, it

4306
04:49:17,100 --> 04:49:21,201
tellsIf you do the three's lanes, these

4307
04:49:22,100 --> 04:49:24,100
eight intersections will have impacts.

4308
04:49:24,100 --> 04:49:28,100
If we had the interchange that it's

4309
04:49:28,100 --> 04:49:30,100
also interchange the impacts of those

4310
04:49:30,100 --> 04:49:33,100
eight intersectionsAnd then they need

4311
04:49:35,100 --> 04:49:36,100
the improvements or need different

4312
04:49:36,100 --> 04:49:39,601
improvements but then it comes back,

4313
04:49:43,100 --> 04:49:44,100
It's really community decision, the way

4314
04:49:44,100 --> 04:49:45,100
the public works has worked with

4315
04:49:45,100 --> 04:49:46,100
McKinleyville is anything that's really

4316
04:49:46,100 --> 04:49:47,100
a project not just maintenance, we

4317
04:49:47,100 --> 04:49:51,100
bring beforeAnd we bring it back and we

4318
04:49:51,100 --> 04:49:52,100
bring it back and we bring it back

4319
04:49:52,100 --> 04:49:53,100
until we get consensus. Can we move

4320
04:49:53,100 --> 04:49:57,201
forward. The question I have a, the

4321
04:50:02,100 --> 04:50:03,100
question I have specifically, do you

4322
04:50:03,100 --> 04:50:04,100
want to come back to the board for

4323
04:50:04,100 --> 04:50:05,100
approval, you just say do a traffic

4324
04:50:05,100 --> 04:50:07,100
study and see what happens, That makes

4325
04:50:07,100 --> 04:50:08,100
me the final decision-maker, not you,

4326
04:50:08,100 --> 04:50:12,100
not them.It just means I go meet with

4327
04:50:12,100 --> 04:50:15,100
me we go through our process.

4328
04:50:15,100 --> 04:50:19,201
>>So, then, any input from the community

4329
04:50:21,100 --> 04:50:25,801
, So you would do the studies, you would

4330
04:50:28,100 --> 04:50:29,100
, At what point would you decide to,

4331
04:50:29,100 --> 04:50:30,100
would you be able to decide to redirect

4332
04:50:30,100 --> 04:50:32,100
to this board?

4333
04:50:41,100 --> 04:50:42,100
>>In the normal process, would not, I

4334
04:50:42,100 --> 04:50:43,100
would make that recommendation, doubt.

4335
04:50:43,100 --> 04:50:44,100
But if you wanted to come back to the

4336
04:50:44,100 --> 04:50:45,100
board, please specifically state that.

4337
04:50:45,100 --> 04:50:46,100
This will beGoing online. I will yet be

4338
04:50:46,100 --> 04:50:50,801
here for many more years.. If you want

4339
04:50:53,100 --> 04:50:54,100
a specific process where government is

4340
04:50:54,100 --> 04:50:58,100
avoid, you make that part of the motion

4341
04:50:58,100 --> 04:51:02,201
Little League within the CSD study "For

4342
04:51:09,100 --> 04:51:10,100
a traffic study and bring it to the

4343
04:51:10,100 --> 04:51:11,100
Board of Supervisors for an approval.

4344
04:51:11,100 --> 04:51:12,100
>>We are back to that first motion.

4345
04:51:12,100 --> 04:51:15,100
>>I clarifying something? We are

4346
04:51:24,100 --> 04:51:25,100
talking about two different things

4347
04:51:25,100 --> 04:51:29,201
here. The study takes the motion away.

4348
04:51:30,100 --> 04:51:31,100
It's reliant upon the study that's been

4349
04:51:31,100 --> 04:51:35,801
done. So with the design, we are now

4350
04:51:37,100 --> 04:51:38,100
talking about the design in central,

4351
04:51:38,100 --> 04:51:39,100
we're not talking about doing another

4352
04:51:39,100 --> 04:51:40,100
comprehensive traffic analysis.

4353
04:51:40,100 --> 04:51:44,100
>>Is that, Like if you and the Micmac

4354
04:51:44,100 --> 04:51:47,601
wanted or whoever the CST wanted

4355
04:51:49,100 --> 04:51:50,100
another traffic study would you be able

4356
04:51:50,100 --> 04:51:53,601
to order that without this boardsThis

4357
04:52:03,100 --> 04:52:04,100
study?

4358
04:52:04,100 --> 04:52:05,100
>>We would not want to fund it out of

4359
04:52:05,100 --> 04:52:06,100
her own funds right now, we would want

4360
04:52:06,100 --> 04:52:07,100
outside funding. Coming back full

4361
04:52:07,100 --> 04:52:08,100
circle, if we're going to go and put on

4362
04:52:08,100 --> 04:52:09,100
a project to bid, that would go back to

4363
04:52:09,100 --> 04:52:10,100
the board. If the traffic study said

4364
04:52:10,100 --> 04:52:11,100
that we should do this or these are the

4365
04:52:11,100 --> 04:52:12,100
impacts that we put a projectTogether

4366
04:52:12,100 --> 04:52:15,100
for bed, then does come back to the

4367
04:52:15,100 --> 04:52:17,100
board..

4368
04:52:26,100 --> 04:52:27,100
>>So any project that would change

4369
04:52:27,100 --> 04:52:28,100
that, I get that, that would be another

4370
04:52:28,100 --> 04:52:29,100
opportunity to talk about this without

4371
04:52:29,100 --> 04:52:32,601
thatNew traffic study, it would come

4372
04:52:35,100 --> 04:52:36,100
back to the board when it goes out to

4373
04:52:36,100 --> 04:52:37,100
Ben, correct?

4374
04:52:37,100 --> 04:52:38,100
>>Correct.

4375
04:52:38,100 --> 04:52:39,100
>>Thank you. Supervisor Wilson?

4376
04:52:39,100 --> 04:52:42,601
>>We have now bifurcated the other,

4377
04:53:03,100 --> 04:53:07,201
Which is fine, in general, we talk

4378
04:53:09,100 --> 04:53:10,100
about these things in different ways,

4379
04:53:10,100 --> 04:53:11,100
so what I am asking could we at this

4380
04:53:11,100 --> 04:53:15,201
moment ask thatAt least in the short

4381
04:53:23,100 --> 04:53:26,601
term while he gets analyzedIn the

4382
04:53:33,100 --> 04:53:34,100
context of all the other things we are

4383
04:53:34,100 --> 04:53:35,100
doing?

4384
04:53:35,100 --> 04:53:36,100
>>I'm going to ask(INAUDIBLE) to

4385
04:53:36,100 --> 04:53:38,100
respond to that.

4386
04:53:46,100 --> 04:53:47,100
>>We can certainly add it to our list

4387
04:53:47,100 --> 04:53:50,601
of priorities. We just missedThe cycle

4388
04:53:52,100 --> 04:53:53,100
to add it to that original

4389
04:53:53,100 --> 04:53:54,100
transportation plan so that would have

4390
04:53:54,100 --> 04:53:55,100
to come with the next cycle. But that's

4391
04:53:55,100 --> 04:53:59,201
really, If this concept is to move

4392
04:54:01,100 --> 04:54:02,100
forward, that's where we would need to

4393
04:54:02,100 --> 04:54:06,801
go is to get it in the regional

4394
04:54:07,100 --> 04:54:08,100
transportation plan so we can qualify

4395
04:54:08,100 --> 04:54:09,100
for the funding her age, in part with

4396
04:54:09,100 --> 04:54:10,100
Caltrans..

4397
04:54:10,100 --> 04:54:14,201
>>In lieu of holding this up for

4398
04:54:18,100 --> 04:54:19,100
another traffic study, doing that, we

4399
04:54:19,100 --> 04:54:23,201
would be waiting for it anywaySo you

4400
04:54:27,100 --> 04:54:28,100
might as well do that today, prioritize

4401
04:54:28,100 --> 04:54:29,100
them separately for this project so at

4402
04:54:29,100 --> 04:54:33,201
least it's on the listAs a resource

4403
04:54:35,100 --> 04:54:36,100
that we have him look at

4404
04:54:36,100 --> 04:54:38,100
>>Correct.

4405
04:54:38,100 --> 04:54:40,100
>>Thank you.

4406
04:54:42,100 --> 04:54:47,401
>>So are we ready?We are going to amend

4407
04:54:50,100 --> 04:54:52,100
again.

4408
04:54:56,100 --> 04:54:57,100
>>Is that part of this, is that

4409
04:54:57,100 --> 04:54:59,100
eligible for today?It's outside of the

4410
04:54:59,100 --> 04:55:02,601
project area. Proactively clear, so this

4411
04:55:17,100 --> 04:55:18,100
.

4412
04:55:18,100 --> 04:55:19,100
>>You can provide direction to bring it

4413
04:55:19,100 --> 04:55:20,100
back for further consideration.

4414
04:55:20,100 --> 04:55:21,100
>>So amended for the third time.

4415
04:55:21,100 --> 04:55:22,100
>>Seconded.

4416
04:55:22,100 --> 04:55:23,100
>>Can you please state your motion for

4417
04:55:23,100 --> 04:55:25,100
the record?

4418
04:55:26,100 --> 04:55:27,100
>>I'm going to have Director Ford read

4419
04:55:27,100 --> 04:55:32,401
back the motion as he thinks it is.And

4420
04:55:35,100 --> 04:55:36,100
will can make sure Fisher's motioner.

4421
04:55:36,100 --> 04:55:37,100
Second there are, we are going to give

4422
04:55:37,100 --> 04:55:41,801
him the second.And if we approve that

4423
04:55:44,100 --> 04:55:45,100
motion, can we email that to Kaleigh,

4424
04:55:45,100 --> 04:55:47,100
please?

4425
04:56:02,100 --> 04:56:03,100
>>This is to adopt the resolution to

4426
04:56:03,100 --> 04:56:04,100
certify the EIR and of the findings in

4427
04:56:04,100 --> 04:56:07,601
allTo adopt the mandatory and will

4428
04:56:09,100 --> 04:56:13,201
refer. To make all required finding her

4429
04:56:15,100 --> 04:56:16,100
into this amendment to the zoning

4430
04:56:16,100 --> 04:56:19,100
ordinance, isTo mixed-use, to rezone

4431
04:56:25,100 --> 04:56:26,100
the town center to mix Zeus with few

4432
04:56:26,100 --> 04:56:29,601
overlays on.To prioritize the Hiller

4433
04:56:48,100 --> 04:56:49,100
interchange with highly one-to-one.

4434
04:56:49,100 --> 04:56:50,100
>>Basically we are adopting staff

4435
04:56:50,100 --> 04:56:53,100
recommendation in their entirety with

4436
04:56:54,100 --> 04:56:55,100
the caveat to direct staff to come back

4437
04:56:55,100 --> 04:56:56,100
with a consideration of the Hilla Road

4438
04:56:56,100 --> 04:56:59,100
offramp. Does that make sense?

4439
04:57:13,100 --> 04:57:14,100
>>I want to thank everybody that came

4440
04:57:14,100 --> 04:57:15,100
today and took time to be here all day,

4441
04:57:15,100 --> 04:57:20,401
it's a long day for all of your thoughts

4442
04:57:21,100 --> 04:57:25,801
We hear you guys, is your community,The

4443
04:57:28,100 --> 04:57:29,100
>>Supervisor Wilson, I waiting for your

4444
04:57:29,100 --> 04:57:30,100
vote.It didn't go through.

4445
04:57:30,100 --> 04:57:33,601
>>You can do a roll call.

4446
04:57:45,100 --> 04:57:47,100
[CALLING ROLL]

4447
04:57:58,100 --> 04:58:00,100
Motion carried four-one.

4448
04:58:03,000 --> 04:58:06,000
>>Thank you. We are adjourned.