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All righty. Let's see if we can get up.
And I don't know if y'all will be able

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to see it or not. That'll tell us
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going to be able to see it or not. Our
internet's down. Our web page is down.

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» Is that what this is for?

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We're up.
All right.

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We're up. Uh, good morning everyone.
Today is Tuesday, November 4th, 2025.

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It's now 10:01. We're here for a special
session of the Hunt County

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Commissioner's Court. At this time, I'll
call the meeting to order. And we have

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Commissioner Money, Monroe, Smith, and
Harrison Pres. Present. I'm Judge

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Stovoff presiding over the meeting
today. At this time, we'll have public

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testimonies.
Uh speakers are limited to three minutes

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and should conduct themselves in a civil
manner. The commissioner's court cannot

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take action on items not listed on the
agenda in accordance with the Texas

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Opens Meetings Act. Concerns will be
addressed by county staff. They may be

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placed on a future agenda or addressed
by some other course response. Is there

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anybody
I know our web page is down so

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» it's emailed in?
>> Okay. All right. Anybody here wish to

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speak?
Being none, I'll close the public

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testimony. Uh at this time,
uh we have no old business, no new

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business consent. We'll go to B under
new business action items. Approval of

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accounts payable.

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» Second.
>> Got a motion second. All in favor say I.

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» All opposed.
>> Motion carries. Approval of budget

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amendments.
>> Make a motion to approve budget

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amendments.
>> Second.

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» Got a motion second. All in favor say I.
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» All opposed.
Motion carries. Uh at this time we're

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going to move move to item number two
and we're going to go into executive

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session under 571 071.
>> 551 071 and 074.

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» 551 071 and 074.
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» Okay. At this time we're going into
executive session under 551074

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and 71. I'll ask everybody to leave the
courtroom except for HR and Chris and

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the for work.

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We don't need any.
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» All right. We got

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» Oh, well, I thought you were checking it
earlier.

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» Oh,

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okay. Well, I hope we're back up. It's
11:21. We're back in regular session. Uh

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under action item number one in budget
fiscal year 2627.

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Commissioner, we talked about uh getting
a plan together, talk about reviewing

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some of uh our procedures and all uh
before we get into next year's budget.

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So we uh Gary, you have you passed all
yours out or

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This was nothing more than just a start
conversation.

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When when we had
when when we had gone through the budget

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process, we were we were talking about
how to prepare for for next year, you

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know, starting today. uh you know
looking at you know various types of

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cost and things like that and and um
what we could do to prepare ourselves

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today so that we're not having a fire
drill you know whenever we hit you know

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June of next summer and start the
process again as far as what what the

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costs were. Uh I believe Commissioner
Monroe had asked for this meeting just

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to make sure that we were you know
headed down headed down a path uh and to

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start trying to get everybody rowing in
the same direction. So, so what I I put

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in front of you, you gentlemen, uh is
just uh things to start the conversation

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with. These are things that are kind of
overhead in nature. Uh things things

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that are bigger ticket items. Uh and but
it's truly nothing more than a starting

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point, but I believe it's things that
that we could set out as a court and say

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we want to go look at these one, lead
the way, start addressing the the larger

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ticket items. uh too, but then start
asking the rest of our uh county,

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whether it's elected officials,
department heads, uh guys that uh you

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know dump the trash cans, guys that mow
the ditches, whatever it is, and say,

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"What do you see out there as
opportunities, and we can kind of

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prioritize those and go look at them uh
overall. So, just to throw out starting

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points, uh the communications
assessment, that's already underway.

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That was the free assessment by Spy
Glass. And I believe uh here in the next

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week or two we're going to kind of get a
a brief on you know where that where

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that's headed just as opportunity to
look at our our internet our phone usage

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and uh rate applications and you know
are there opportunities to save there.

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Um
you know since I've been in the court

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we've had conversation about enterprise
lease lease you and all those things. Is

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it good? Is it bad? U I think it's one
of those things it's it's a large ticket

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item. I think it provides benefit to the
county. Does it still provide the

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benefit that it was originally intended
to? Uh is there a different structure of

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that agreement? You know, is there a
different way to approach that? You

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know, or should we leave it alone? Um
now, what I would do is drop over to the

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right side on your next steps associated
with that. Uh what what you what you

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have to do is have an independent team.
You have you have people that like it,

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you have people that don't like it,
people that use it, people that don't

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use it, people that understand it,
people that think they understand it. Um

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uh and and I really think we should we
should go get a team and on that one

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there ought to be an independent leader.
Someone who doesn't have a a stake a

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stake in the ground on on on that just
other than is the financial best answer

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overall. Uh utility cost uh this is one
of those legacy things for me. Uh

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historically went in I mean I I go to a
lot of rooms a lot of buildings in

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various places in the county. Uh we
don't we don't have automated sensors.

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We don't have uh any regulatory on the
on a lot of the HVAC stuff. Uh we don't

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have LED lights in in a lot of places. U
I won't make this a prior job for me. I

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actually from result of what I did at
that job. I was talking to another

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business owner. They went in and much
smaller. I mean this is a you know it's

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a it's a a small manufacturing facility
employee about less than 100 people.

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uh they they went in and changed out
everything to LED and it resulted in

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about $1,000 a month light savings on
the utilities. So just little things

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where we start just the things that you
do every day that actually run the bills

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up. uh copier lease agreement. I mean I
mean these things are notorious. Uh they

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evolve lease companies, copier
companies, they all have different

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approaches at them. Uh and you also have
all the um horror stories about how

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expensive things are, you know, where
toner cartridges uh cost more than a new

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printer for your desktop. I I I'm not
taking that as folk I'm taking that as

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folklore, but I think we should go
assess those things because it's

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countywide. um you know the uh other
ideas is the is the key point. That's

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where we're asking everybody else to go
hey tell us what we do that's stupid you

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know just to be honest that that's
really the idea and uh and so anyway

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those were to get started. You guys have
a lot of other things that you know uh

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but this was just to start a
conversation and and hopefully judge

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that on these ones that require a group
of people to get together and pull

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information.
If uh if everybody agreed that those

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would be good things to do, we could go
slate those off with a with a schedule.

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I know we're not used to always deadline
and things, but I did the next page put

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a timeline. If we're going to do
something, we need to do it now. This is

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about getting new things done
implemented so that next budget season,

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if you get benefit from them, you can
actually incorporate those into forecast

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rather than just always using last
year's number.

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» Okay.

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questions of him, question comments.
>> I like it.

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» And so, so rumors don't get going and
stuff because we had talked about this

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in the last meeting. When you start
talking about budget cuts or looking at

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ways to operate more efficient, people
automatically think, "Oh, we're about to

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lose our job or we're going to come in
and cut manpower or whatever." That's

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not the intentions of these meetings.
the meetings are to is just like

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Commissioner Smith was saying, we're
looking for ways to be more efficient.

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Just because we've always done things a
certain way doesn't mean that's always

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the best or the most efficient way. So,
that's just things that we're wanting to

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talk about. So, I just kind of wanted to
lay the groundwork on that of people

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don't have to worry about losing their
jobs. That's what we're not that's not

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not what our intentions are right now
for that.

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» I think we also have to look into, you
know, somehow or another

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you know, how do we direct the elected
officials, the department heads, make

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sure that they understand kind of
Commissioner Smith, what you were

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talking about in here. How do they how
do they need to look at their budget

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going forward as well? What do they need
to be looking for? Ways to cut, ways to

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reduce, ways to save money as well. Uh
because it's going to it's going to take

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everybody, department heads and elected
officials to help make this work. Uh we

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can't just have certain departments
working on this and trying to come up

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with ways to help us save money. It's
got to be everybody at the county level.

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» I agree.
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» Well, I you know, Gary, I appreciate
what you've done. I think this is a a

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good start, a good idea to start. It's
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it's certainly some of the biggest
ticket items we have uh

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that we we can see some improvement on.
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you know, of course, I've always, you
know, complain, fuss, or whatever the

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right word is about. You know, we all we
got is 100-y old buildings around here

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we're trying to maintain all the time,
which is extremely difficult. and and

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with uh you know trying to improve them
is it makes it even more difficult

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because you you don't have good bones on
a lot of things you're starting with you

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know one of the things that you know
we've wanted to do for since I've been

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here is replace the windows at the
courthouse would save us probably more

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money than all the le LED lights you can
put in but uh the cost number on that

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thing is so high because of the uh being
a historical building the historical

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commission is making it so difficult and
expensive that it's going to be millions

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of dollars to replace or fix the windows
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» They won't let us do a replica of it.
They're going to we're going to have to

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take it out,
sand it down the frame, replace any part

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of it or fix it, repaint it back the
original cutter color. And they say they

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want us to put in the the re original
paints that were in it. Well, I can I've

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told them over and over I can I can tell
you the first floor there's not original

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window paint on that first floor.
They've all been broken sometime through

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the years and probably on a lot of the
other floors. There's probably not any

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original
pl panes of glass. So, they won't even

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let us put in energy efficiency
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So, that that's another one that's on
the list. Uh you know, Gary, that we can

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talk about. I don't know how we attack
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» facilities.
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that's one major deal. I know at the
courthouse, I know they've had a program

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going to replace all of the lights with
LEDs

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in the courthouse floor by floor. Now, I
don't know how far along that has

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gotten. I'm pretty sure they've done it
in my office. I don't know if they've

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done it in the commissioner's office or
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» I don't think so.
>> No, still. But I know they they had a

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program going where they were replacing,
you know, on they had a schedule where

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they were trying to do so many offices
at a time and put LA. Has your clerk's

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office been replaced?
>> I think they have.

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» Yeah, I think some of the courtrooms
have been done and all. So, they've got

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some of that.
>> Was that all done through facilities?

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» Yes, they did on their own.
>> Maybe we could ask Commissioner Monroe

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to ask for a status of that and then
maybe get it expanded across all

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buildings and
>> Yeah. see where they're at on it cuz I

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know I know Chris had a plan and they
were working it at one point in time of

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replacing them
>> uh on some kind of schedule. I just

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don't remember what that schedule looked
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Um,
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spoken to them and asked them in the
next coming month or so to actually come

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to court and give us a presentation of
where we started, where we're at, what's

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benefited us, where we're at
financially, vehicle-wise, and all that.

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So, everybody has an update on that
program as well. So, hopefully here here

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pretty soon we'll get them in court and
can can uh look at that presentation.

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Well, I my com I guess my comment would
be if with them doing that, I think we

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should get somebody talking to every
department that has the vehicles and see

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if they're happy with what's going on.
>> Yeah, the the biggest thing on on the

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enterprise thing is getting a total cost
of ownership. You you you have to you

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have to get it beyond just the price of
the car. You got to get into the

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maintenance. You got to get how it's
maintained. Uh you know, there's a fleet

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management aspect of it, you know. So
making sure that we when we're comparing

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apples to apples, they're not apples and
oranges. And so because I I there's

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probably a lot of cost that we gain out
of having that program that if you don't

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include that, if you didn't have that
program, it's not a fair comparison.

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That's why I I think that I agree with
you that it's just we we got to make

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sure we're getting all the cost in or it
looks lopsided,

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» right? Yeah. And it's uh you know the
there's so many elements to that that it

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it's'll be it'll be kind of a everybody
may have a different opinion whether

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it's good or bad because right
>> what's what's important

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» to somebody might not be important to
somebody else but if it's important it

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could be really important to to do it.
Uh so we just need to

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» and there might be some places that it's
the best answer for them, but it's not

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the best answer for somebody else.
>> It may not be all-encompassing. That's

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correct. Uh
>> so judge, I guess my my my question from

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trying to understand how the process
would go in something like this, the the

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three items there in the middle, you
know, you're really talking about groups

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of teams that are pulling data, you
know, and compiling things and and

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information. How do we go about that? Do
we do we appoint names? Do we ask for

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volunteers? I mean, I
>> I think we'd have to ask for volunteers.

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And of course, we you know, we can't
have but you know, two people from the

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court on it.
>> I think a lot of this is outside the

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court, right? There might be
>> Well, I think you're going to have to

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have one member of the court at least
give them

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» a PLC.
>> Give them some leadership, get tell them

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what we're looking for. May not have to
be involved in all of it, but they're

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going to have to be some kind of a a
go-to person to answer questions that

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they have.
>> Yep.

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So the one that might be controversial,
does anybody have any issue if that if

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we could uh identify an independent
leader, maybe even not part of the

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county government
on enterprise?

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» Sure. I
>> as long as they had a resume that

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matched the
>> I don't know who that would be off top

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of my head, but that's a good idea. I
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» you got somebody in mind.
>> Well, I I wanted to make sure that the

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idea was good and then we'll see if we
can bring names to

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» starts with a J on a lot of this. I
think a lot of times outside vision is

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better than internal vision sometimes
because you have a different perspective

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of it and so I think outside source is
great great idea.

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» I'll check on that one. Like I said that
one I thought is so large and so

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complicated an independent look might be
the others are the internal expertise is

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the best.
>> So then you then if you had an outside

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lead would be leading it. Is that what
you're thinking? Be leading it. So then

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we had to make sure that his team
members are some that have a lot of

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insight in their department with the
vehicles and how it operates. Okay.

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» Absolutely.
>> I think that's all great ideas.

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» So when you're you're saying on the
18th, are you saying that on the 18th

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we'll have the the announcement of all
the members?

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» Here's who it is and and and what and
what their charter is. And then we'll I

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assume that somebody from the court if
they're not on the team would have to

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give them some direction or we're going
to have to ask them to come to court to

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give them the direction from the court
is what are you thinking of that?

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» Um
I think we could do it either way.

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Probably the individual uh you know that
gets the intent just so it doesn't

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become a something tied to a court date.
Um, you know, the the whole thing is

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like on the enterprise. Well, I guess
the big thing is the court would

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probably like to see what the charter
would look like, I would imagine.

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And everybody just be in agreement about
what what it is that's going to be

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looked at, how they're going to go about
it. So, we would we would need to bring

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them to court to to say, "Here's what
we're doing. Make sure everybody's on

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the same page." And that's and that's
really what that 129 date would get you.

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We identify everybody by the 18th.
Everybody goes and and does

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Thanksgiving. The the people that were
identified, you know, write down what it

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is that we're going to go after by 129.
And then we ask them by the end of

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January there on the 27th to report out
what they found.

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» Okay.
>> Would you be willing to be the head of

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that team, Gary?
>> What team's that?

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» Over the budget team.
>> Oh, just getting this organized for

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everybody. I'm happy to do that. I'm
happy to do that.

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I would like any input though on various
people that you know you know have

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experience in with this or that. Just
make sure

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» Steve has been the most involved in
enterprise. He understands it probably

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better than anybody. So
>> I think Steve ought to be

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» you all right with that Steve?
>> I'm fine.

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» Yeah.
>> Especially if Gary's got a good

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recommendation from an outside person to
recommend.

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But I think you understand the overall
>> workings of it.

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» I think I can get them into context with
with everybody and all that.

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» I I think you know it's you know
accounting and how to pull information

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and data on that. Uh any legal
interpretations on the enterprise lease?

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You probably have most of that on your
own. Uh I'm sure the sheriff would have

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an interest in somebody being part of
that if I had to guess.

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» I would think so.
But Steve's been through a cycle of it

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where he's had lease, sold them, kept
one, kept one. They recommend not to

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sell. So he he knows the workings of it.
So he'd be real valuable, I think.

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» So I I've kind of already started just
as I'm just talking about as far as

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court PC's. I've already started
obviously on the comm on the

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communications assessment. I would just
stay tied to that unless somebody wanted

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to step in and
>> and pick it up where it's at.

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» Um
the only other one at this point I'm

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going to say that Commissioner Monroe uh
basically is the the utility cost

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because that's tied through facilities.
If if if he would be good with that,

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» that'd be fine.
>> And Darren, I know I know you're you're

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new to the to the court. uh the the copy
lease. Would would you be interested in

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doing that? And I would provide any
assistance.

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» And I I can assist you on that, too.
>> Okay, good deal.

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» I'll help him cuz
>> Yeah,

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» I was the one that got started.
>> Help.

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» Yeah.
>> Yes.

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» I'm the one that kind of got that
started. So,

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» I'll kind of tell you where we came from
and what what we've done, what we're

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looking for.
>> Okay.

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And so the so the big thing would be for
to to help identify who the uh who the

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players are that would be on those teams
and then make sure we all understand

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what we're asking each other to go do.
The big thing on on these teams is is

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really two questions. Why and what if? I
mean that that's that that's really why

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do we do it this way? And what if we did
something different? I mean, that that's

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really what we want to start asking all
of our folks in the county to do is when

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we when we do something, why do we do it
that way? What if we did it this way?

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Would it make it better? Would it make
it, you know, more efficient to go do?

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Just the things we want to start asking
oursel, but we don't want to say ever

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because that's the way we've always done
it.

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» Correct.
An example that uh Gary is just a couple

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things I've dealt with in maintenance
since I've kind of inherited that for a

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little bit as of now is a lot of things
uh they were I noticed that they were

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subbing work out a lot and I so I asked
why are we doing this and that's that's

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the way we've always done it. So I'm I'm
like okay well can our team not do that?

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Well yeah but we've just always subbed
it out. So I said well let's start doing

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this this and this in house. I don't
want to put anybody in over their level,

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you know, skill of level skill, but we
have got a lot of projects taken care of

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in house and and I imagine that's saved
us a lot of money because we're not

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subbing out, you know, the work. We're
already paying maintenance guys to be

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here doing work. And uh so those are
just little things. I was always told

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you take care of pennies and the dollar
will take care of theirel. And so if we

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start looking at little things and not
focus so much on the big things all the

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time. I think that's where we get into a
lot of trouble sometimes. We focus on a

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we go after the big things and we do
need to take care of big things. But if

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you take care of the little things and
start there, those little things start

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adding up and turn into big things. But
I think that's the goal of this whole

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whole meeting is just to start focusing
on the little things and then let those

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go into bigger things and just be more
efficient. But that was just one example

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of like just one thing we changed in the
maintenance department is just start

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doing things in house and talking about
the why do we do it or what you know

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what if you know so we went from that's
because we always did it to the what if

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and we're saving money. So,
>> well, I think something else we also

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need to look at going forward with this
budget stuff is is department heads as

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well. uh you know I can't remember how
many departments we actually have or

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department heads that work under the
court's discretion you know be it

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veterans or health department it whoever
it is but I think we need to you know

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somehow break that down as well maybe
amongst commissioners and judge as well

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but try to try to get uh some more more
appointment there with the department

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heads so we understand and we have a
point of contact with that department

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head of what do they really need and
what are they really doing? Uh, you

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know, and I'm not picking on Ted or the
veterans by any stretch of the means,

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but I don't know if we if we have
monthly meetings with him or buy by

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monthly meetings with him and knows
what's going on or, you know, how many

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veterans are we serving, what are we
doing here or what are we doing there?

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And I think that's another way that we
might be able to, you know, understand

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the budget side of it is when they do
come in there with a budget or what they

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actually do and what what are we
>> what are we paying for?

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» What are we paying for? Yeah, there you
go. And again, Rodney at the health

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department, you know, how many
inspections, you know, we don't we don't

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ever see any of that type stuff. And so,
it's hard for us to understand the

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budget as well whenever it comes to us.
So I think somewhere along the line

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maybe we need to sit down and look at
you know Gary take a department and you

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know the judge and David and Peanut me
you know we I think we all need to look

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at that as well and have more of a a
more of a direction from the court to

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the department heads as well and let
them know you know hey this is if you've

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got a problem or send a reports to us or
something like that as well.

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» Sound like a good phase two. Yeah,
>> especially if we're going to start

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moving to a more merit type system, you
know, merit based or goal based and

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things like that. Though that that would
alignment would help.

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» Yeah.
>> All right. Anything else? Any other

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comments?

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» All right.

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So, we don't have any action on this uh
other than just organize and to, you

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know, bring back
>> Yep. you bring bring back the the

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leaders and and who's going to be on the
teams by the next

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» Correct. Yep. So, I think everybody's
got their assignment.

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» I think so.
>> Yep. All right. Daniel, we got anything

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else?
>> Comments.

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» Okay. If there's not anything else, uh I
entertain a motion to adjurnn.

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» Motion.
>> Second.

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» A motion second. All in favor say I.
>> I.

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» All opposed. Motion carries. We're
journed at