[0:00] Roll call. Uh, invitation will be given
by councelor Thomas and pledge of
[0:05] allegiance by councelor Bradis.
[0:09] » Stephen Ford
>> here.
[0:10] » Brad Willis
>> here.
[0:11] » Leslie Evans
>> here. Crystal Lacy
[0:13] » here. Roger
>> here.
[0:15] » Scott Thomas
>> here.
[0:17] » Here
>> everybody's here.
[0:22] Father,
[snorts]
[0:32] we pray Lord that you just give us
wisdom and guidance as we liberation
[0:37] tonight
as we head home. Pray for those who
[0:40] name. Amen. Amen
[0:45] to the flag of the United States of
America and to the republic for which it
[0:50] stands. One nation under God,
indivisible, with liberty and justice
[0:56] for all.
[1:03] » Special order of business. Uh
recommendation was brought by the budget
[1:06] committee for the police fleet uh
because of availability of vehicles.
[1:12] That's why we're having [snorts] this
special meeting.
[1:15] We have prepared uh two resolutions just
in case actually one resolution for the
[1:20] purchase of the vehicles and then I
think that we have uh one of our uh
[1:24] council members that'll that'll maybe
make a suggestion on that. So anyway, um
[1:31] obviously I I'll I'll turn it over to
Josh uh and Chief Herring in the fact
[1:35] that uh we have have been fighting this
uphill battle with vehicles over there
[1:41] at the PD and um uh [snorts] we had
began to entertain enterprise rental
[1:48] fleet um
to to come in and and take care of all
[1:54] of our vehicle needs over there. We've
got some of our vehicles over there in
[1:57] the in the police on the police
department side of things that are 19
[1:59] years of age that we're we're still
driving every day. And uh you know,
[2:04] obviously that went arry with with
Enterprise
[2:09] uh still very disappointed in that was
it was a very good program I think but
[2:14] then they then they quit uh doing it for
police vehicles. U so anyway uh [snorts]
[2:22] Chief Herring picked up the ball uh
vised with me a couple times. We've been
[2:26] up to Jofflin [snorts] to look at edu, I
think is the company's name. Uh, and
[2:31] I'll turn it over to him and let him
discuss to tell tell everybody what we
[2:34] found out. So,
so, thank you guys all for coming in. I
[2:39] know I'm not the only one on the agenda,
but I do appreciate you guys coming in
[2:44] and taking the time to listen to me. Um,
so obviously I've been working at the
[2:49] police department for about 20 years.
And 20 years ago, we had five officers
[2:54] and five vehicles. [snorts] At that
time, replacing my oldest unit each year
[2:59] kept our fleet current. But now with 13
officers, 13 units, and one reserve unit
[3:04] and growing, still only adding just the
one vehicle every year hasn't kept pace.
[3:10] Uh we currently have vehicles ranging
from 5 to 19 years old as the mayor just
[3:15] said um responding to calls to service.
So coming to your house, we have a
[3:19] 19year-old car, maybe a 16 year old car.
Um we've had several issues with the
[3:25] 16-year-old cars obviously um
transmission wise. Um but just obviously
[3:31] the older those cars get, the more
problematic they are for us at the at
[3:35] the police department. And that's not
good when you're trying to answer a
[3:38] domestic call and your car breaks down
and you know you have to find some other
[3:43] way to get to it or find somebody to
come pick you up and take take you. So
[3:47] that's not always the fun fun part of
it. Um as as we all know vehicles are
[3:52] not cheap and their maintenance isn't is
just as expensive. Um in the last few
[3:56] years I've just been paying attention to
a lot of our vehicles that are are in or
[4:01] past the seven and eight year mark which
have been more problematic for us. um
[4:05] everything from water pumps in the Ford
Explorers costing upwards of $5,000 to
[4:10] replace to the Dodge Durango and the
Chargers um having coolant issues and
[4:15] currently cost us two motors in in one
Durango and one Dodge uh Charger. Um
[4:22] the that brings me to another issue. As
we continued to just get one vehicle a
[4:26] year on state bid, those vehicles
change. From when I started, we were
[4:31] doing Crown Vicks, then it changed one
year to to Chevy and Palace, then
[4:35] Chargers, then Durangos, Ford Explorers,
and then to Chevy Titles, which means
[4:40] that's an wide array of of models in one
fleet. and uh makes it almost impossible
[4:47] to predict a budget on upcoming general
maintenance. The tires uh oil changes
[4:52] cost much less predicting something
major when it breaks down um with all
[4:57] the different year models and the mates
and of those vehicles in one fleet.
[5:02] » [clears throat]
>> Uh what I propose to the budget
[5:05] committee with the help of ESU pursuits
and government capital who the city is
[5:11] currently working with now um we have an
opportunity to standardize my fleet
[5:16] across the patrol division with six Taho
fully updated and one admin truck fully
[5:23] updated um
to replace all of our oldest vehicles
[5:28] except for two. One is an 8-year-old
vehicle and one is a six-y old vehicle.
[5:32] The 8-year-old vehicle has 50,000 miles
on it, so it's pretty squared away. Um,
[5:36] and it happens to be our animal control
truck that we have. And then the
[5:40] six-year-old vehicle, um, we had no no
issues out of, and as of today, we've
[5:45] had no issues. Um, so the reason why I
picked the Chevy Tahoe, uh, obviously
[5:51] they are a little more expensive. You're
going to you're going to pay for what
[5:54] you get. And uh we currently have two
newer Taho in our fleet that you guys
[5:59] graciously let me uh purchase a couple
years back. And uh getting that the same
[6:05] vehicles across the patrol division to
be able to um keep up with the
[6:11] maintenance, keep up with all of that uh
better. And then also like there's a lot
[6:16] of safety issues when it comes to law
enforcement. You get in, you get an
[6:21] officer that's driving say a Chevy Imp,
and then something happens and he has to
[6:25] jump in a Dodge Durango. Well, it's not
easy for him to just jump in that car.
[6:30] Sometimes the shifter is a spin shifter,
sometimes it's a column shifter,
[6:34] sometimes it's on the floor. So, there's
just things that will slow an officer
[6:39] down trying to respond to those cars.
But if they're the same standardized
[6:43] across the patrol division, it'll make
it a lot easier for us to get in those
[6:46] cars, know where everything is, and
respond to those calls in a timely
[6:50] manner. Um,
the uh Chevy Tahoe has generally holds
[6:56] it a better resale value compared to
something like the Ford Expedition
[7:00] largely due to its strong demand and
reliability. Uh, both vehicles are
[7:04] durable, but the Tahoe has a reputation
for longevity. And the Tahoe typically
[7:10] edges out the competition and resale uh
value due to its uh cons constant
[7:17] demand. People just want they like the
Taho. They're durable. Families use
[7:22] them. They're work vehicles. Uh the feds
right now, they are using them and they
[7:28] are buying them up. And that is part of
the reason why we're here tonight trying
[7:32] to get this on in front of you guys is
because that is happening across the the
[7:38] United States. Um
the space is another thing with those
[7:42] Taho. You know, we put all these cages
in our in our vehicles. You got a
[7:47] Durango that is very small, very tight.
You got a Charger is really really small
[7:52] and really really tight. with the Tahoe,
the space allows enough space um for law
[7:59] enforcement, for the prisoner transport
cages, um just everything that's
[8:03] necessary for the officer to do the job.
So, the Tahoe is is the pick for that.
[8:08] Um going back to maintenance, um I've
talked to Jason Yates probably a half a
[8:13] dozen times and uh just the major uh
work and repair that he does for most of
[8:18] our vehicles. Um, I'm pretty sure he
could tell you that Taho is probably his
[8:23] number one pick when it comes to to
vehicles that he would work on and
[8:29] getting parts availability um, and just
the reliability of it. Um, he's been
[8:34] doing this type of work for a long time,
so I respect anything that he tells me.
[8:38] I'm not I'm not a mechanic, so I can't
tell you that that man back there could
[8:42] tell you anything I need to know about
about a vehicle. Um, but and also it
[8:47] holds its warranty just or holds a
warranty just like any vehicle that you
[8:50] would buy off of a lot. Um, it's a
limited warranty uh that includes
[8:54] bumper-to-bumper coverage, three years
or 36,000 mi. And then the powertrain
[8:58] warranty is 5 years and 60,000 mi,
whichever one comes first. So, going
[9:03] back to the ESU Pursuits, using them to
build these units, um, the equipment
[9:08] that they put in these units, they will
actually warranty that that equipment.
[9:13] So when you're talking about the cages,
the sirens, the lights, the gun locks,
[9:17] all of that is covered by three years of
warranty. And then the main brain that
[9:22] runs the lights is a 5year warranty. So
these [clears throat] guys are sharp
[9:28] when it comes to this stuff after we
spoke to them and they uh they have it
[9:33] down to where they know that if they put
that in that car that they're going to
[9:38] warranty it theirelves and they will
send a tech to us in Huntsville. we
[9:43] would not have to go to Joplin. They
would send them to us and they would fix
[9:46] a light or a gun lock or whatever it was
that was wrong with it for the three
[9:50] years or five years on the plane.
Um
[9:56] [clears throat]
so I obviously choosing the ESU to build
[9:59] these um they have several locations all
over the the US. Um they have years of
[10:04] experience after talking to them. Most
of them are law enforcement, fire,
[10:08] emergency personnel. Um they do do fire,
they do EMS, they do anything that has
[10:14] to do with uh emergency response
vehicles. Um they're the ones that's
[10:20] doing the installs on these vehicles. So
they have a good idea of what a law
[10:23] enforcement off or law enforcement
vehicle needs, a fire fire department
[10:27] vehicle, what they need in that vehicle.
Um ESU also does tradeins. So, if we buy
[10:34] vehicles from them and they put this
equipment in the vehicle, whenever we're
[10:39] ready to get rid of that vehicle, we can
go back to them and say, "We want to
[10:43] trade this in." And if it's seven
vehicles, six vehicles, whatever it is,
[10:48] or just three of those, we can take
those, trade them into them. They will
[10:52] give us top dollar because they are the
ones that put the equipment in there.
[10:55] They know how good that vehicle was
done. And of course, if you're buying a
[10:59] vehicle that's got the resale value,
then they're more likely to give you top
[11:02] dollar on the trade and then you just go
right back into what you're what you
[11:07] started with in the the first place. Um,
the mayor the mayor and I took a trip
[11:12] down there. He told you guys that and we
spoke to them for several hours. Um,
[11:17] they gave us advice, they gave us
options, they answered all the questions
[11:21] crazy from both of us and absolutely had
no pressure techniques. The guy that
[11:26] talked to us was a salesman at all. He
was actually still a law enforcement
[11:31] officer that worked in Joplin and uh so
he had good good advice on stuff that
[11:37] they run into all the time over there in
Joplin. Um
[11:42] so I went and I just so after all that I
went on in 2024 and 2025 and I pulled
[11:48] our vehicle maintenance and our
equipment mostly the upfitting side of
[11:52] the equipment and in 2024 we spent 29
$325.37
[11:59] out of a $30,000 budget in maintenance
just in repairs.
[12:04] In 25, we spent $18,978
in just in repairs out of a $29,000
[12:09] budget. In the equipment budget, it
consistently around 60,000, but just
[12:15] particularly in upfitting, it ranges
from 7,000 to 10,000 depending on what
[12:19] you're putting in the car. And then
obviously if it's a K9 unit, it goes up
[12:24] from there.
>> And and I'll add this SU group since
[12:27] it's kind of cradle to grave uh what
they do for these vehicles. Uh since
[12:32] they have the the uh in stock
[12:38] build out for one of these cars like the
cages and K9 units and all that. Since
[12:43] they have all that in stock, it actually
saved us on the front end of this
[12:47] probably about $40,000 from what we've
done in the past. buy one vehicle and
[12:51] then take it to somebody to customize it
for for a police unit, right? And and if
[12:56] they're doing all six or seven of these
vehicles all at one time, it saves us
[13:01] about $40,000 historically from what
we've spent in the past to do those
[13:05] vehicles. So, that's a good point to add
to what they do.
[13:09] » Yeah. Because if we continue just for
say the next six years buying one
[13:12] vehicle every year, that's $60,000 if
you if you're going by the $10,000 mark
[13:17] to to upfit that vehicle every year. So,
we're roughly paying 60,000. So, yes,
[13:22] the 40,000 would be
>> y
[13:24] » be very accurate. Um, on the [snorts]
2024 and the 2025, again, if we just
[13:29] followed that trend like I just said and
we ran that out for six years, um, you
[13:34] would see it's a $565,000
um, if of 2024, if we just continue to
[13:40] do the same thing, spending the vehicle
fund every year, upfitting it every
[13:45] year, and then the maintenance.
Obviously, with newer vehicles, we're
[13:49] I'm hoping with newer vehicles that are
my maintenance budget will actually be
[13:54] better off because I'm not having to
take every vehicle that's 13 years old,
[13:59] 16 years old, 19 years old, and trying
to keep it on the road when I've got all
[14:03] these new the newer vehicles to to not
put so much maintenance into. Um, and
[14:09] then again with 2025's uh trend, if it
stayed, it would be around 503,000.
[14:16] um if we did it for six years, just
continued on the same route. Um as far
[14:20] as financing, um ESU uses Capital
[snorts] Fleet Solutions and we got a
[14:26] quote from them for a six-year lease on
seven units upfitted and it was $537,000
[14:33] and
at 6.9% interest. And me and the mayor
[14:38] kind of chuckled when when we saw the
saw that because we knew that the
[14:43] interest rate was not that. And uh he
actually came up with the idea of
[14:48] looking at the government capital which
the fire department and the city is
[14:52] working with and uh I sent it over to DC
over there and uh he came back with his
[14:59] at 4.89% 89% interest, same vehicles,
same price for [snorts] the six years.
[15:06] The difference in the ESU, the capital
fleet, and uh going with DC at the
[15:11] government capital is the first one was
a lease. It was a true lease. So we we
[15:16] would not technically own those vehicles
or the equipment in there until it was
[15:20] done at the end of its lease. With the
DCs, if we go with the government
[15:24] capital, we own them as soon as soon as
the checks wrote and they're delivered
[15:28] to us.
>> And we're not hamstring by what offer a
[15:31] lot of times certain mileage, certain
hours on vehicles. And now they're
[15:35] geared more for police and fire rescue
type vehicles, but at the same time, as
[15:40] everybody in here knows, uh, a lot of
times, uh, you know, we c we get the we
[15:45] get the calls and complaints sometimes
that people don't realize that these
[15:48] guys have have performed maybe an
investigative duty. They're sitting in
[15:53] their car. they're they have to have
that car on with the computer running so
[15:56] they can go to ACIC so they can do
everything that they need to do from
[16:00] their car. Uh those vehicles are
constantly running so we're not
[16:04] hamstring by that as far as the leasing
goes.
[16:06] » Right.
So the the or government capital when
[16:12] they sent that back at the 4.89% 9%. The
the yearly payment was 106,31447
[16:20] compared to the 6% interest at 110,000 a
year. And and those payments obviously
[16:27] they don't start until the a year after
the financing, which obviously helps my
[16:31] budget tremendously in the year 2026 by
not having to to make a payment until
[16:36] 2027. Um and so what I proposed to the
budget committee uh using the government
[16:42] capital due to its lower interest rates
and uh using my vehicle fund which was
[16:49] it's 55,000 is typically what we get in
our budget for a new vehicle every year
[16:55] and then taking 20,000 from my equipment
which makes a $75,000 down payment
[17:02] towards the 537,000
which would bring it down to 462. 2 at
[17:09] 4.98% interest for the six years and it
brings it under 100,000 around 91,
[17:15] uh, 590 is what it brings it down to,
which is definitely more manageable for
[17:20] me even out of my current budget now if
I was to pull that out there. Um, I'm
[17:25] not going to lie to you. I don't think I
mean probably the first two or three
[17:29] years I would be okay as far as
maintenance and and the equipment, I'd
[17:33] be fine. But um [snorts] it's it's it
would get it would get hard come you
[17:38] know the fifth year, sixth year, seventh
year trying to make it to where we're
[17:42] actually [clears throat]
profiting off of the cars because we
[17:45] have newer cars with less miles and
things like that. But uh I definitely
[17:49] think that that it's doable the 91,000
to uh to pay out of my budget if I had
[17:56] to.
>> I think uh on on this year's budget,
[17:58] just so you know, you can see down here
what Chief Herring prepared the 55,000.
[18:04] That's a line item that he's got in his
budget right now. Uh and he's got an
[18:08] additional 60,000 I think under
equipment. Uh he's proposing taking
[18:14] 55,000 using 20,000 out of the equipment
budget and then 10,000 out of
[18:18] maintenance, which would be $85,000 a
year that we're already currently paying
[18:22] out uh for the use of the vehicle. So,
we're getting really close with that
[18:27] $75,000 uh dollar down payment. We're
getting really close to only being we're
[18:32] within uh $6,59010
of what our today's budget is. So 26
[18:40] budget. Every year we end up putting a
little bit more into these budgets.
[18:44] Obviously, you know, we've done it for
the fire department. This gets us a
[18:48] start in the right direction of of
maintaining a one type of vehicle in the
[18:53] fleet. Mr. Yates is here. He can he can
vouch. He and I have had private
[18:57] conversations about this and and uh you
know I mean Jason gets to work on a
[19:03] little bit of everything out there at
his shop, but he said the Taho seem to
[19:06] have worked out all the bugs in 23 I
think 23 and 24 and these 25 and 26
[19:13] vehicles are are the uh cream of the
crop so to speak. again that fiveyear
[19:18] 60,000 milei warranty uh we get to that
that's almost the life of this thing uh
[19:24] and what what Chief Herring's proposed I
think is absolutely a doable thing. I
[19:29] think the budget committee agrees with
that in the aspect of u of of what we're
[19:34] currently financing and how we increase
that every year. I think this will pay
[19:38] for itself. Now does that mean that it's
going to get us out of the hole that
[19:42] we're in now? Yes. in the fact that
we've got 19 year old vehicles that
[19:46] we're replacing. Is it going to
are we going to have another jump off
[19:52] point at some point in time? Probably
six, seven, eight years down the road,
[19:57] yes, we may have to look at replacing
more and keeping some of these as part
[20:00] of our fleet. But what it does is it
gets us out of that routine of buying
[20:04] one vehicle a year. uh and it doesn't
really affect the bottom line, so to
[20:09] speak, in the fact that it's $6,590
more what we're proposing now than what
[20:14] we were already going to spend this
year. So, uh I think it's a no-brainer.
[20:19] I absolutely support the idea. Chief, I
want to tell you, you done a fantastic
[20:23] job of preparing this and thanks for not
dropping the ball. I know I get busy a
[20:27] lot of times and and you stayed lazy
being focused on this and I think it's
[20:32] high time we do something about it. So
for that, I I greatly appreciate all the
[20:36] work that you put into this. And now
we'll open it up for questions to our
[20:40] council members.
[20:46] Anybody have any questions for Chief?
[20:51] » Yes. [laughter]
>> Did you get better the second time?
[20:54] » Yeah.
>> They always say that the first version
[20:59] is always second. So, some people had a
first version tonight. I had a first.
[21:05] » You did good both times.
>> You did both.
[21:07] » Yeah. I think you done a fantastic job
as well. Um, the only other thing that
[21:12] I'll add to this and our our and I got
to think about this today. Uh, Jessica's
[21:17] not here. I think since it's a financial
u perform that we're looking at like
[21:22] like financing money,
I'm not sure if it has to go out uh like
[21:30] you know in a formal bid pack since
since we've been keeping everybody
[21:33] astute of everything that's going on
here with the council and all that. I
[21:38] don't know that it has to, but that's
the only that's the only caveat that I
[21:43] thought of that would hinder us from
buying these tomorrow.
[21:47] » I thought government capital might be
there are certain
[21:53] there are certain ones you can do
business with and that's already been
[21:57] taken care of. And I kind of thought
they were
[22:00] I uh
>> I know that they are used around the
[22:03] state. That's how we got in touch with
them in the first place.
[22:04] » So if that's the case, you may not we
may not have a a cool off or waiting
[22:08] period for that. But but we will find
that out. That's that's the legality of
[22:12] it. But what we need tonight is decide
if we want to enter into this agreement
[22:17] with government capital. Uh and if so,
uh we need to take a vote on that. Well,
[22:25] I'll make the motion that we proceed
using government council for the
[22:30] purchase of the six Taho and the one
truck and
[22:37] » approve resolution.
The the only thing that I would like to
[22:41] see done instead of u depleting his
budget in 2026
[22:48] since we're just in February that the
75,000 down payment be made out in
[22:52] general so we don't
[22:58] » yeah so we so since you all since you
all made this suggestion in our in our
[23:05] budget committee meeting we went ahead
and prepared another resolution just
[23:09] that
>> um we'll have I think we'll have to vote
[23:11] on those two separate things but um so
table hold that thought. So we have a
[23:18] motion on the on the table right now uh
to go ahead and proceed with government
[23:23] capital uh corporation for the financing
of the $462,573
[23:29] at 4.89% 89% of annual payments
beginning April or May of 2027
[23:36] uh for $91,59010
that'll come directly from the budget of
[23:41] the police department.
>> Is it 4.89 or 4.98?
[23:47] » It's 4.89. This is the original sheet.
>> Okay.
[23:52] » That's just a typo. It's 4.89%.
>> Yeah. Uh so we have a motion for that.
[24:01] Do we have a second?
>> Make a second.
[24:04] » Second from Guy.
Uh, do we need a roll call since it's
[24:09] half a million dollars?
>> Call. [laughter]
[24:13] » Yes.
>> Yes.
[24:15] » Leslie Evans.
>> Yes. Chris Lacy.
[24:18] » Yes.
>> Roger O.
[24:19] » Yes.
>> Thomas.
[24:20] » Yes.
>> Yes.
[24:23] » Yes.
>> Mr. May I make a move motion that we
[24:27] approve resolution 6-2026.
>> I'll second that.
[24:31] » Have a motion. Have a second. All those
in favor say I.
[24:34] » Uh that is a resolution regarding a
lease purchase agreement for the
[24:38] purposes of procuring police units and
upfitting. And I won't you all have been
[24:44] that was included in your packet. So you
all had a chance to look at that. That
[24:48] resolution passes. Okay. Next.
>> Well Leslie opened the door. You told
[24:53] her to wait. Yes. So Leslie, you want to
make a motion for resolution number
[24:58] 7-2026?
>> Yes. I make a motion that we approve
[25:02] resolution 7-206.
>> I second.
[25:05] » Have a second by Miss Lacy. All those in
favor say I.
[25:10] » All oppose, same sign. And just to go on
the record, u this is a resolution
[25:14] amending the adopted 2026 budget for the
city of Huntsville. and and I'll I'll
[25:20] cut down here. [snorts] Basically, what
we are doing to be very clear,
[25:25] we have the $75,000 in the police
department's budget. We're leaving that
[25:30] in there. Uh we have about 980 some
odd,000 in unallocated funds that that
[25:36] has not been budgeted. We will we will
draw from unallocated funds for the $75
[25:42] or $75,000.
So, it does not affect uh Chief
[25:46] Herring's budget this year at all. And
the city will cover a $75,000 down
[25:51] payment is what that resolution is
about.
[25:54] » That also leaves us in good shape for
your first payment.
[25:59] » And and whenever we talked about this,
but just so everybody's clear how we
[26:03] budget on these things, we start in
about September, October, uh we'll add.
[26:08] So, so we'll just have to remind
ourselves that'll be a carryover. So,
[26:12] you'll have better almost I would say
depending on how we budget you'd
[26:17] [snorts] have almost two years worth of
payments already at your disposal
[26:20] whenever you got ready to do it
>> right
[26:22] » at any point in time DC Greer with
government capital said that we could
[26:26] always go in if we pay a big chunk down
we can go in if interest rates are are
[26:31] lower we'll find out in March if they're
going to go down again uh March or April
[26:35] uh hopefully they will if President
Trump gets his way uh I'm hoping he does
[26:41] uh and they do go down um
If that happens, we can always put a big
[26:46] down payment toward this and refinance
uh right after our first payment.
[26:51] [clears throat] So,
>> there should be some dollars from the
[26:54] resale.
>> Yes. Yes.
[26:56] » Yes. And I we've got some ideas about
that and Chief Herring and I will be
[27:01] working on those things. So,
>> how much does it cost us to get signage?
[27:07] [cough and clears throat]
>> So, obviously you guys have seen the
[27:10] newer Taho that we have. I don't want to
say it's plain, but it's a very basic.
[27:15] It's a state police, state highway
police setup, [snorts] and that is very
[27:21] inexpensive. It's roughly $300 just for
the stickers. I put them on. So, I'm not
[27:26] paying for somebody to put them on
because they are so easy.
[27:28] » And Josh has at his disposal act money.
>> Yes. The 988 pack.
[27:33] » The 988.
>> It has to go towards vehicles. It can't
[27:35] go towards anything else. So, either
equipment or just the vehicle itself.
[27:40] And now that we're doing the step
program, we may have potentially some
[27:44] money's coming to us.
>> I've heard that the step program has
[27:46] actually bought like bought outright
departments cars. So
[27:51] » part of the reason why we're
>> do we have a motion for adjournment so
[27:56] we can let the planning committee Oh,
and and to the planning commission,
[28:00] thank you all so much for waiting
patiently. Uh thank you very much for
[28:04] that. Appreciate it,
>> sir. Yes, sir. Make the motion.
[28:07] » Tim Ford, let's go. Let's go home. Let's
planning commit me.