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Welcome you to our Hyde Park City Council Meeting for July 8th. We appreciate you coming.

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We'll have our opening prayer

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or a thought and pledge by Councilmember Osborne.

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I dare kind to help me bothers. We gather here as a city council of the city of Hyde Park. We ask for guidance and direction. And listening here as we

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We discuss issues within our city and make decisions moving forward and pray that we

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might make those decisions that will be best for our community.

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We're grateful for this country that we have to live in and to enjoy the freedoms that

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we do and we're thankful for those that have dedicated their lives to protecting those freedoms.

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We ask for blessings to be upon our citizens with the things that they need and

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they will be mindful of those that we can help. These things we pray for in the

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name of thy Son, Jesus Christ. Amen. We please stand and follow me in the pledge.

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And when I say the audience, thank you, Frank, for coming.

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It's a for a very blessed that way in that country. So the next item of business is to review

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the meeting minutes from July 24th. And if you look at that,

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you'll notice that it also

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So how

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did the joint meeting with it?

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Yes.

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Right before it.

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So if

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you would, let's do those two separate items.

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The first one being the joint meeting, the workshop with planning commission.

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Dave, do you have any comments?

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I do not.

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Good.

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Yes.

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It's Stephanie.

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No.

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I don't care, Mayor, I was not in attendance, so I think it all sustained from voting on this.

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Sustain, we're upstain.

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Upstain.

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You can vote if it's grammatically correct.

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Um, Curt, Tiffany.

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No comments from me.

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Okay.

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I would look for a mostly to approve the workshop session from

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Jilla jute

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June 24th. There we go. June 24th. I

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Move we accept it

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Got a motion from Kurt is your second. Second from Dave in your discussion

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All one favor, say aye.

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Aye.

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Any opposed with nay?

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How about let's review the City Council meeting minutes from the same night?

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Does anyone have any comment?

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If there's no comment, I would look for a motion to approve the meeting minutes from June 24th.

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So moved.

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The motion from Dave and the second from Kirk in you more discussion

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All those in favor say aye. Hi in your pose with the motion carries

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4-0 is that correct with with

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Geryl obscene because you're what the here

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The next item is to approve the agenda I

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I don't have any other comments to add to it if you don't counsel.

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That we accept the agenda is written.

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Got motion from Stephanie.

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Second.

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I'll second.

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Second from Geralt.

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Any discussion?

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All in favor say aye.

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Aye.

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Any opposed with nay?

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Motion carried 5-0.

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So now is the time we open it up to residents for comment and we ask them to list with it

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to three minutes and it's not on the item, it's currently on the agenda, so we'll open

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it up and it says I'm on the timer, yeah, I guess if I'm the only one here can I take six

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minutes?

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That's up to the mayor.

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Sit down in between.

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All right.

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I just have two quick items here. I've got a set of photographs I'd like to connect to you.

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And these are on from Center Street and Main Street intersection.

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And I'd like to, when we're done, leave the set with the table over there.

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If you would, so that they can look at them.

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I want passes this past week, and that's a problem.

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it is a problem and those that third picture those two little two little trees

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were this high five years ago and last year they became almost impossible to

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see pass and this year they're turning into real trees.

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Is that the code or a

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police thing? I figure the police don't have to go to crash there and if somebody

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with the back coat goes down there, it'll be taken care of.

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I've got a minute, two minutes left.

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What else do you want to cover, Frank?

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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I don't know if you guys have seen why the

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Park Lane is called the Velvet Highway.

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But I ran across this picture the other day.

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It was not the Velvet Highway when I was a young man.

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It was called the Green Velvet Highway.

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That's right, right there.

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That's so cool.

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That is pretty cool.

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That's kind of true.

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That's cows from the bottom to the top.

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If you look down the right-hand side of the road, you'll see some poles.

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That's the power poles.

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If you look down the left-hand side, you'll see poles.

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That was the telephone lines.

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There were 30 lines coming into Hyde Park at that time.

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That's all the telephone lines there were coming into town.

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I don't know when this was, this was back, no, no, this goes way, this goes way back,

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bailing me. This has got to be back in the 30s, 40s, maybe you can have, you can keep

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that. I, yeah, I wanted you guys to have those because I, we have some stoppage time for you.

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And I, the other day I was thinking,

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can we keep that one?

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Yeah, you can keep those.

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My dad would, I don't know what it would be like,

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driving cows down that highway now,

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trying to get around that round about.

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I will say, I was the last one to ride a horse

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after the cows across the highway for Dan Russ cows.

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Well, we used to drive them.

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I'd drive a herd across the highway.

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and I would stop two, three cars seven, seven, thirty in the morning, four, thirty in the afternoon, I'd stop two or three cars coming along the highway as my cows crossed the highway.

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So every time I go down to that intersection without fail, I think what the heck would my dad think of this intersection now?

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Well, at least the cows that go through the traffic circle said to stop and wind up, you know, it's just gone.

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Frank, did you have another intersection you wanted to discuss?

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I just wanted to say what a handsome man you are and I'm glad you live with my neighborhood.

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Okay, can that be part of the record?

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Can that be part of the minutes?

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Frank, you are giving this to us also?

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Oh, we'd love to hang this up.

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Thank you.

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Carol, did you make a motion on his saying that you're a good man?

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Yes.

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You kept it under time.

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You kept it under time.

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You did good.

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I think, technically, you have two items.

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Well, Frank, it's good to see you here.

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Do we have any other comment for the public input?

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But having no other public here, and Frank took both of his,

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we'll close the public input.

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Chief, did you see the intersection?

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Is that like, it's on center and main corner.

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And I would suggest that it's probably not the only intersection

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in town where we have similar issues.

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And we have many sidewalks that have bushes hanging out into the sidewalk.

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I feel like I need to go walking with my clippers and my pockets.

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So I know there's a code requirement for the intersection being able to have like visibility, but I don't know if that is probably coded for us with thing right now.

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Yeah, we'll pass this off to the co-inforcement officer. He can go out and investigate the intersection and determine if codes are being violated and if they are, we'll contact the property owners and get them fixed.

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Yeah, because I noticed that last week I rarely come in over that way, but I'd like, oh my heck, I got pulled out into the intersection.

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I shouldn't see parcels bluscious in the requirement.

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I think on corner lots is pretty significant.

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Yeah, so it would be more than just these two trees.

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It's 3035 feet each way.

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Yeah, and so.

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All right, we'll get our business portion.

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Mark, does do you have anything?

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I just had one thing I wanted to bring up in the staff report.

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There's a quick update or the RFP for our master transportation and parks plan is

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Currently open all entries are due by end of day tomorrow

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Currently, we have scheduled we have to have the bid awarded on July 22nd at the city council meeting

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However, we're getting a lot of requests for agenda spots on the 22nd

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And so I was hoping to ask the council if we could take some time in our general plan work session to

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to maybe start going through the RFP responses,

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maybe use the work, some of the work session time to do that

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so we can hopefully speed up the selection process

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and the actual city council meeting.

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I'm his favorite.

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Yeah, let's do that.

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Okay.

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Have you received any proposals back?

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Yeah, I know.

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No, I've had lots of questions, lots of inquiries,

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lots of interest, but I have not received any proposals yet.

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Chief, do you have anything?

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I do.

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I had my recap for June that I was going to present,

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as well as this weekend with the July 4 fireworks

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that I was going to update, everybody on.

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I'll try to be quick with it.

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For June, the department had 548 calls that came in.

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Out of that, 409 were in North Logan

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and 139 were in Hyde Park.

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So it worked out to be about 25% of the calls were Hyde Park type calls of that

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25% or of that 139 58 of those were non-priority type calls. So your animal

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a loss and problems. This was an assist to vehicle abandon.

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And they've been inspections. And that's what that non-priority worked out to be 41%, basically, of that 139. The rest of the calls were priority calls, 58% of them. And as you look down through our highest numbers of those were your accident, property damage, and then your alarm insurance, our insurance alarms on that that we responded to. We did have some other pretty serious calls this month.

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We had a rape investigation that we're working on that we had another sex offense that we were working

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We had a automobile theft and then several medicals as you look down through that list

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there that we handled

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Wanted to point out to the citations. So in addition to the 548 calls the department had

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315 traffic stops that they made between North Logan and Hyde Park for Hyde Park

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We had 24 citations or stops that resulted in citations and 51 additional stops resulted in warnings.

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So for total of 75 stops out of that's 115.

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I also was curious to see where we stand as far as apartment with criminal arrests.

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So in 2025 we had 257 criminal arrests that the department made.

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So your domestic violence, your thefts, your trespassing, your DUIs, your drugs, your rape,

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your sex offenses, those things all count as criminal offenses.

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Through the end of June, this year, we're at 104.

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So slightly lower than what we were last year on that, but still pretty much in that same

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area.

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We're keeping track pretty much on that.

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So that's where we're sitting with that.

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By way of update as well coming up in August we start with our deer abatement program again.

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We have the trap that arrived two day actually so we have two more on order.

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The first one we ordered before we talked and it is arrived so we can get that set up.

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We need to set up a time with Mark where we can figure out exactly where we're going to

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put that and so we can have that in place August 1 to start.

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Do we need to get a new list of volunteers or we just go from a list we gave you?

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We'll probably just go from the list that we have we had it was a it was a big list on that so

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We're seeing progress with that like said with the trap that we're talking about

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I think that will actually see the progress this year on that and I should be able to then that heard

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So when can we start tracking?

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I guess one yep and do we have how many we can take so over the course of

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three years we have 120 that we can take so last year we weren't able to take

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Annie on that so for two years now we can we can take 60 this year 60 next

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store however that falls and take all of them this year yep we can't take more

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than 120 though on that that's what our limit is from the detail we don't take

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So do we have a estimate of how many there are, is there anybody guessing?

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When we were putting this together, it'd be two years ago now, on that, their estimate

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was lower than what we were thinking.

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They were thinking less than 200 on there.

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I've got one.

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You know, within half a block of where I am, I counted them walk by my heart.

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Which is partially where that limit came from of the 120.

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That was their numbers that they put together and said this is what will allow keep in mind

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This is that then they heard for hard part and to and for dog Logan, right

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So this is the mine so yeah, yeah, so we're on top of it. We'll keep

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Keep everybody up to date on when that happens, but at least we have some of the equipment

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We have two more traps are in order. They take several weeks to build on that

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they have been ordered and they should be here by August, August one from what

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we've been told. Is the intent to put both of them down at marks? Well, we have

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three that we're going to implement this year on that. So whether we put the

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two at marks or whether we put, you know, spread it out, I don't know just yet.

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Okay, but there's probably enough at marks to put off three there to be honest.

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And whatever's there probably impacts both cities. I'm sure. I mean that's a good

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It's a good location to have an impact on both North Logan, and I think it might be great back and forth between the two.

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Rather than on the outskirts of the north or south boundary of one of the cities, so.

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Yeah, exactly.

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As far as recap with this weekend, this last weekend from, we're looking specifically from July 2nd until July 5th with the fireworks span.

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North Logan had no fireworks span and we had a partial in that restricted area.

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nothing west of 200 west and nothing east of 100 east on that so during those

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couple of days Hyde Park had six calls at that our department handled four of

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those calls ended up being people that were seeing the fireworks go off and

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they approved that yeah the fireworks show on that one of those was

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outside the the restricted area which resulted in a citation and one of those

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was reported a suspect in a truck that had set off an aerial and then took off.

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We weren't able to get a plate, we weren't able to apprehend that guy.

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So the four approved one citation out of that four high park and one unknown.

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Three additional calls were reported in North Logan.

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So out of that three, one resulted in a citation, one resulted in a warrant arrest on that.

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We ended up arresting that person involved with shooting off there and then one

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Saw the fireworks in the approved zone. So that would have been the second show. Yeah

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That he was concerned about but it was in that approved zone

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And so really you have the one citation and the one arrest

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in North Logan with that. So

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Calmer than it was in years past on that

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Still concerning with people shooting off fireworks

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So yeah, that's that's what I have for you.

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Thank you.

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I'll just say mayor.

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I know this is on our agenda for a little later discussion but it's come to my attention

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and I think the attention to the city council that fireworks by state code doesn't include

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sparklers, poppers, snakes, those kinds of things and that's the way when I looked at it

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that I understand it and so I guess my question is,

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when we say no fireworks outside of that zone,

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some people are gonna say, well, that's everything.

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That's, you can't do anything.

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And others who've done some homework are gonna say,

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well, I can do sparklers in my driveway.

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And you know, some of these little poppers and things

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because they don't fall within the Utah Code definition

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of explosive device or fireworks though.

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I think that's what's going on the citation

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from Hyde Park.

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It was sparklers or something.

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Yeah.

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And that will be probably, if that's the case,

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it will be dismissed.

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Okay.

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And I don't know.

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I have what did to it.

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Governor's order that he put out, I believe, said anything.

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And sparklers that were longer than 12 inches were illegal.

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legal. Sparklers under that 12 inches would have been allowed on that. But there's also

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a caveat with that where the cities can restrict and go tighter than that particular restriction

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than the governor's order and according to whatever is recommended by the local fire

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enterprises or institutions. Well, I'll bring it up as we talk later.

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Anything else,

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glad that it was a calm, fourth of July and we're going to be discussing fireworks later

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on again.

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So, from me, I know the next couple of meetings who have got some full agendas and so please

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be aware we've got a lot of the things happening on July 29, 22nd, 22nd, 22nd and then

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And then August 12, we got a lot to cover both those days, so be watching the box to

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be seeing those.

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Other than that, we'll move on to the next item.

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Consider ordinance 2026, dash 12 with ordinance establishing a temporary land use regulation

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imposing 180-day moratorium on specified landscaping and related development due to drought

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conditions. What I'm really wanting to see if the council would consider is a landscape

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moratorium because if people put in sod right now it has to use a lot of water and we're not in

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a dire strait for water but I just I'm wanting to look into what if we have a problem next

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to bring to so the proactively that's what that is about so we have to have a

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public hearing on that no no but I do have an update from the city attorney if

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you would like to hear okay so I was reviewing this this morning and I had a

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question for the city attorneys I called them and as we were looking at it

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together. He said that the real crux of the moratorium as it's written right

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now is reference to municipal water improvement project and that's probably a

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product of this being taken largely from our last moratorium but our city

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attorney's concern was if we take that part out where the city does not have a

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critical infrastructure problem right now, and he's nervous that this would not hold up

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if the city were to get challenged on it by somebody.

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Well, what about the critical infrastructure is we have not got the well running yet.

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Right, but the well is on our 10-year master plan.

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It's not something that we needed to have right now.

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So, you know, if we adopt it under the drought conditions with the governor, what they've

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to put out, how can you not do that?

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Right, but the city's already declared water restrictions.

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We have other ways that we can control it.

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And so that's it.

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He just said, it doesn't feel like there's enough teeth in it.

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Where if somebody were to challenge the moratorium,

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he's not sure that the city could defend it.

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It's where to go to legal action.

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I'll just put it on the record as mayor.

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I think that's a very weak answer from our attorney.

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Because the governor has declared a state of emergency

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with the drought conditions, that should be sufficient.

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Right, and in response to that, we took other measures to try and curb the water usage.

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Water usage, but in new landscape development for new houses,

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it's only going to affect a few, but if they have a semi-load of sod coming up,

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they got to water it every day.

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When was the last ticket or citation we gave for

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are watering outside of two days a week, never.

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Okay, I think that's a weak answer,

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but that's the extent of my vote.

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Well, as I looked at, I guess my question is,

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what does this really look like?

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Because our code says that developers

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will have education

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programs and subdivisions for water-wise stuff. Are we doing that even? That when people come in

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to sign up for utilities, if that's when they're told some things about landscaping and stuff,

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and I'm thinking maybe that's too late because they've already ordered stuff. I guess my question,

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what does this really look like? And maybe if the concern is sod, then maybe it ought to address

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that specifically, but if someone's wanting to put, you know, gravel chips, all this water-wise

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kinds of things that we ask for in the code, and say, hey, I'll put in my sod next spring.

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I mean, last thing I knew, what gravel and chips don't require water.

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Well, that's what I'm saying, is that if they were to do everything in their landscape minus

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this, whatever it is, the 45%, the 50% front and side yard lawn, if they did everything

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else, wouldn't we kind of want that rather than just weeds growing and will do around

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the New York for the next month?

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You got to find chips and rocks or you put them bushes and also planting during the heat

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is a really bad idea.

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So true, but that's their choice if they want to do it.

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I mean, that's all I'm saying, Mayor, is that I get the sod part of it if you're trying to put in sod right now, but the rest of the landscaping is just a specified landscaping.

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So, you know, there's certain requirements that the city has that you have to have your landscaping in within.

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I don't believe the city any city holds a a new house builder homeowner hand in in that it's in our code the

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other ways, principles, all of those things are out there.

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I don't believe the cities went up to measure to see the new houses that put in too much thought either. I don't know that the city is at the point where we've ever approved a landscape design that's residential. So, if, if the council wants to do this, they, you know, we can continue and refine it.

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if you want to go with legal and it's your option.

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One thing I just think of, we have two schools with big grassy areas.

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I don't know what point they're going to plant seed or wood.

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Both of them have secondary.

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Both of them have secondary,

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but they're not good to use secondary.

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I don't really mind me, does this ordinance they can put it in if they have secondary?

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It really doesn't define, I don't think it addresses secondary.

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It addresses things, it's in like this paragraph right here, city council finds mitigating the

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droughts impact on the city's water system and preventing further non-essential water usage

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that may stretch damage or overwhelm the city's water system as a compelling kind of ruling public interest.

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So it's all about things that could put a stress on the city's system.

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It does not address things that may stress secondary water system, not

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owned or maintained by the city.

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And even when I sent out, we recommended older and ordering twice.

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That was my recommendation to put that into a mandate is how skilled from you.

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Do you want to continue this kind of discussion or should we brush to the side, council?

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I

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think it's important to help people understand that now is not the time to put in sod or extensive landscape.

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Marcus, do we able to determine the number of properties that would maybe be doing yard work?

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I couldn't get an exact number,

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but essentially if again, we're following the code which we tend to think that maybe this is what the old townfield Hyde Park is, we write codes and we ignore them and do whatever we want to do, I don't agree with that, but this I think would generally apply only to new construction.

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Yeah, I mean, so the numbers that we're talking about is all you have to do is kind of take a look at how many building permits we have approved in the last year.

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And at some point they ought to be in the process of finishing those and selling those and owners coming in and out on the landscape.

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So I mean, it's whatever that number is, it's probably in the 30s, 40s, 50s.

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What do you do about 48-year?

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Yeah, I was going to say 35-40-year.

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And if you do it for 180 days, and the planting season,

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180 day puts it out to spring or winter.

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So you're actually enacting a moratorium

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for the next three months, 90 days,

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because nobody saw it in the November.

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So if you put that out there, you

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might affect a whole bunch of 10 homes, but...

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Well, and if we need to in the spring, we can revisit this.

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We have another winter like we did.

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Yeah.

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And I guess as I read that and kind of go back to your comment

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earlier, Mayor, do we as a city approve new landscaping?

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Do we issue permits?

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I mean, I took out all my sod a couple years ago in my front yard

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and it's wood ships and landscaping and only for commercial and industrial.

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So I guess my point is is that I didn't know I needed to come in and have that approved

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by the city and does anybody know that and if we don't require it, then yes we do my

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adress you can come by and cite me if you're not getting approval.

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We do not have a requirement what this looks like.

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We don't have a requirement for single-family homes to have a landscaping permit, that's not something that we required in our code.

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In our landscaping codes, when we did the commercial industrial, that kind of stuff, there was a lot of shells.

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And in the residential, it should.

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So should don't need a plan from approved by the site, the city, shelves do.

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So council at that time.

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So now we're saying this would only apply to commercial and this means gateway won't be

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putting in any landscaping around the tickle ball courts until next spring.

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No, this would apply for all of our residential because

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those unless you're on secondary water system,

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which we don't govern.

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Right, and that's kind of my question, Mayor.

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What does this really look like?

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We don't require anybody to do it now.

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There's a bunch of sheds, and we're gonna say,

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well, we're not gonna approve.

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We never have, we don't issue permits for residential.

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We don't have to authorize their new landscaping.

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So is this something new and different?

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What it would look like with some of these issues of building permit, they'd also get

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a notice that there's a moratorium in effect for landscape, that's how you notify

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the builder who's the contractor for the homeowner.

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Another question that we as City staff had is how far do you want us to take it?

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This paragraph right here is second to last.

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Just, it says City Council finds it is in the public's interest to issue a temporary

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line-to-stregulation prohibiting the approval, issuance of permits for, or construction

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of landscaping, irrigation systems, green space improvements, and other site improvements

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requiring additional municipal water until, and then there's the entails.

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That sounds a lot like not letting people put new water meters in.

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Well, this document was copied from something that Mayor Wheeler enacted some time ago.

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And it definitely could be approved and find a better moratorium or just if staff had

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an issue, they should look it up and find it.

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No, we don't have an issue.

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We just want to know how far did you want us to take this?

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Why

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180? Because that's what the state allows. By statute, any temporary

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landage regulation can go up to 180 days. See, after three months, I think they

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can put it inside in less impact on our block. Well, in three months, you know, we

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be getting into that fall. They might do it then, but the 180 days, the state

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It requires that whatever the reason we enacted a moratorium, we have to have a planned

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device to come out of that moratorium.

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There are quantifiable things that allow you to enact a moratorium and perhaps that's

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question for League of Cities too that they might could help us it is this it so so if we if we

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go 180 we're pushing it into next year like you said yep what did we gain by stopping a few from

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doing it now you gain not stressing our current aquifer well but next thing and you may end up have

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You have to read, you may, yeah, you could, or we could get 300 in since the snow, we don't, yeah, it's, that's the game.

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I just, yeah, if we have 30 this year and 30 next year and the 30 this year gets pushed, so I kind of like the idea of like in the fall is a good time to plant and it's not as hot.

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Maybe we just need to look at this.

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That's what I think.

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The only way we can do it is by saying that you only

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give a bother two days a week.

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And if you plant new soil, that's going to burn.

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And then for some, if we, it's my recommendation

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in the newsletter that two days a week,

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you have to pass something that says this is what it is

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and give it the teeth so it can be enforced.

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So

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maybe maybe the slow the flow people have something that we can get but and they send

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us something back under agreement we need to get moving with them.

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Should we continue

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talking about I think you need to talk about water but not take an action on this tonight.

459
00:40:40,930 --> 00:40:43,890
I would feel comfortable just kind of,

460
00:40:46,140 --> 00:40:48,680
I could even help on some research or whatever,

461
00:40:48,980 --> 00:40:52,640
and try to feel a little more informed

462
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:54,280
before we report on this.

463
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:54,740
Okay.

464
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:56,040
That's how it is.

465
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:57,540
I just want me to get in your forefront.

466
00:40:57,840 --> 00:40:58,120
Okay.

467
00:40:58,940 --> 00:41:00,640
Is that a

468
00:41:03,460 --> 00:41:07,440
motion, since it's an item on there,

469
00:41:11,530 --> 00:41:14,370
motion dies with, does it really continue this?

470
00:41:14,670 --> 00:41:17,990
Well, continue means it'll be brought back up

471
00:41:17,990 --> 00:41:22,350
but it's a moratorium, but it can die

472
00:41:24,650 --> 00:41:32,350
with no motion, and then a moratorium doesn't come up, but water should.

473
00:41:32,870 --> 00:41:37,490
We could move to table it, which essentially means we're not going to talk about this anymore.

474
00:41:38,170 --> 00:41:47,950
When I table things, it's coming up the next meeting, because table it means kicking it down the road, and it should be a water discussion, perhaps.

475
00:41:47,950 --> 00:41:56,050
If we're tabling it, then we want input from slow to slow people if we get into that agreement.

476
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,860
We don't want to just keep kicking it.

477
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,640
So is there a motion to table it?

478
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:11,500
To hopefully next time when we get input?

479
00:42:14,810 --> 00:42:15,690
Question four.

480
00:42:15,690 --> 00:42:22,110
If we proceed with this,

481
00:42:24,540 --> 00:42:26,620
not sure how to ask this,

482
00:42:33,180 --> 00:42:37,680
can we, it'll, if we table it, it

483
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:45,620
comes back, this very one, no, it comes back as, we're going to come back it and then

484
00:42:45,620 --> 00:42:46,700
do this.

485
00:42:47,300 --> 00:42:50,820
Well, if you give us direction, we can do whatever you want us to do.

486
00:42:50,820 --> 00:42:56,040
If you want me to take it back to the city attorney, redraft it to match more of what our current conditions are

487
00:42:56,040 --> 00:43:02,980
So that a little more comfortable with it. Great. I can do that if you just want to keep it at the forefront as a conversation piece

488
00:43:02,980 --> 00:43:07,820
We could do that if you want me to reach out to the slow-to-flow people because we did sign the deal with them and

489
00:43:08,940 --> 00:43:13,720
We're gonna be starting a public outreach and some other stuff with them hopefully as soon as next week

490
00:43:14,220 --> 00:43:15,340
And you want to wait for that?

491
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:17,000
We can do that

492
00:43:17,720 --> 00:43:19,440
We just need you to tell us what you want to do

493
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,460
That's what went out in the news letter, but it has.

494
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,100
No, we don't have that, we haven't passed that.

495
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,260
No, if we pass that, does that take care of this?

496
00:43:28,460 --> 00:43:29,380
I think it does.

497
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:32,680
Well, I think that's a whole different.

498
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:34,680
I'm going to think twice about putting sod in.

499
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:39,280
If I can only water twice, when it's 90 degrees to 100.

500
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:41,440
I think that has to be a different resolution,

501
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,180
because that wasn't advertised in this.

502
00:43:45,300 --> 00:43:45,900
I'm really sure.

503
00:43:45,900 --> 00:43:54,360
If you look at that suggestion, if you'd rather throw this out and we rewrite a resolution

504
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:56,800
to actually put in water restrictions, we can do that too.

505
00:43:59,650 --> 00:44:08,470
To me, that makes more sense because that impacts residents across the board and not the

506
00:44:08,470 --> 00:44:14,490
30 or 40 people who are ready to do their landscape in their new construction this summer

507
00:44:14,490 --> 00:44:19,870
in fall. They're probably not going to put new sod in as you stated if they can only

508
00:44:19,870 --> 00:44:24,710
water a couple of times a week, but it still allows them to put in water-wise plants

509
00:44:25,730 --> 00:44:32,390
and, you know, the trees that they may want to have with minimal watering. I mean, watering

510
00:44:32,390 --> 00:44:39,250
some water-wise plants versus watering, you know, the 10,000 square feet of sod is,

511
00:44:42,370 --> 00:44:42,570
you

512
00:44:46,210 --> 00:44:53,070
What do we want to distinguish between city water and canal water?

513
00:44:53,490 --> 00:44:58,210
We already have. This is the only thing. I don't think we have a say in canal water.

514
00:44:58,210 --> 00:44:59,690
or canal waters, yeah.

515
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:30,540
The whole different issue, we have no control over that. When it says the city water system, that's talking to us. And Marcus, I'm looking again. We looked earlier. Tanks are full again, so I don't know how many, what's our GPM? I don't know. I don't know. Top of my head. Yeah, I know I look. We have a good flow. Tell me now the spring. I'm just wanting to lean more leaning into concern for next year than I am worried about this year.

516
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:41,340
how's that? And I appreciate that, Mary. Hey, that's good. I also think Geralt had a good point earlier if we just tell the people this fall or this summer.

517
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:46,740
Well, you can do it next year, and now we have twice as many people next year, and maybe it's even worse next year.

518
00:45:47,260 --> 00:45:52,480
And we just, how long do we keep rolling this? And you can only have a moratorium for someone.

519
00:45:52,480 --> 00:46:02,380
So to move this, I think what I'm hearing is the council would like more input from perhaps

520
00:46:04,420 --> 00:46:10,980
slow the flow, people, perhaps somebody from the league might have something.

521
00:46:12,420 --> 00:46:23,000
We ought to research what other cities have done, and if the governor's watcher declaration

522
00:46:23,910 --> 00:46:32,420
helps cover us legally, and move, have that come up for the stretch in the next time.

523
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:33,880
That sounds...

524
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:38,260
That's not North Logan, and they have a mandatory twice.

525
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:38,740
Yep.

526
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:39,500
We don't think.

527
00:46:39,500 --> 00:46:45,620
Yep, so it wouldn't be like, would be the only ones in town, you know, in the valley doing this kind of thing, right?

528
00:46:46,700 --> 00:46:46,960
Okay.

529
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,460
So, a motion to table it with those items?

530
00:46:53,460 --> 00:46:55,620
Yeah, I would make that motion, for sure.

531
00:46:56,220 --> 00:46:57,960
A motion you can read, look at it.

532
00:46:58,100 --> 00:46:58,260
A second?

533
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,120
A motion from Darrell, the second from Kurt.

534
00:47:01,860 --> 00:47:02,600
More discussion?

535
00:47:05,330 --> 00:47:05,810
Yes.

536
00:47:06,290 --> 00:47:06,670
Okay.

537
00:47:06,670 --> 00:47:16,910
by table in it. This that allow us to make changes as we desire to this. Yes.

538
00:47:18,010 --> 00:47:22,650
As long as it's advertised with those changes, I think. Yeah. So it still be a more

539
00:47:22,650 --> 00:47:29,140
authoritarian. Yeah. So any more discussion?

540
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:35,520
All those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Aye.

541
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:39,480
And he was opposed with nay, motion carried 5-0.

542
00:47:42,700 --> 00:47:51,860
The next item is to consider the option for fireworks to remain during the year.

543
00:47:51,860 --> 00:48:07,880
Yeah. The governors fireworks ban was for two through five July. Yeah. Pull those up. Marcus. I'm looking back.

544
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:15,380
Don, you managed to find the actual executive order. So got that on the screen. What's that? Don, you managed to find the actual executive order from the government.

545
00:48:15,940 --> 00:48:16,680
Oh, yeah. I have that.

546
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:21,860
out there. But did you get the letter from the state force too?

547
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:23,760
We have that in here too. Okay.

548
00:48:27,580 --> 00:48:32,460
Does it allow us to impose,

549
00:48:34,740 --> 00:48:36,540
okay, that's a real small screen.

550
00:48:36,700 --> 00:48:37,640
I'm going to pull it up here.

551
00:48:40,420 --> 00:48:42,440
What paragraph is that, Marcus?

552
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:49,060
So I just circled and it's like the middle of page two. It talks about how there's a Utah

553
00:48:49,060 --> 00:48:56,020
uh, code that authorizes the discharge of fireworks around Independence Day and, uh,

554
00:48:57,880 --> 00:48:59,260
Pioneer Day, the holidays.

555
00:49:00,260 --> 00:49:06,500
Well, I, I see in their, yeah, paragraph seven that, you know, they're going to re-look

556
00:49:06,500 --> 00:49:10,620
this again for July 22nd through the 25th.

557
00:49:10,820 --> 00:49:11,100
Mm-hmm.

558
00:49:11,140 --> 00:49:17,780
And so, you know, whatever decision we make tonight could be overruled and or, you know,

559
00:49:17,780 --> 00:49:24,600
So the chatter is they're going to be doing the same thing what what they allow on the last one is the government

560
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:27,500
Band them outright for

561
00:49:28,100 --> 00:49:31,400
State properties and unincorporated counties

562
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:34,800
Then he allowed cities

563
00:49:35,780 --> 00:49:38,020
if they had safe areas

564
00:49:38,540 --> 00:49:39,080
to

565
00:49:41,780 --> 00:49:44,300
Declare those and they have to be

566
00:49:45,260 --> 00:49:55,020
sent into the state if they have a declared area for fireworks. It's only going to get

567
00:49:55,020 --> 00:50:04,580
hotter and drier. The last one I came up with what the fire chief, Smithville Fire

568
00:50:04,580 --> 00:50:16,460
Jeremy said, leaning more towards going even more conservative and saying, in

569
00:50:16,460 --> 00:50:22,460
exempt cities from their fireworks, but no discharge of any fireworks in the city,

570
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:31,460
it's going to be hotter and drier. And with that do we include sparklers of

571
00:50:31,460 --> 00:50:40,240
anyone? As defined by the state. Let the state define what fireworks are. And if the state says.

572
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:46,040
So yeah, this was brought up at our last meeting and the council asked to have it brought up again.

573
00:50:47,260 --> 00:50:52,180
We didn't end up having any resolutions written because the day after we had that meeting,

574
00:50:52,180 --> 00:50:57,540
the governor made this announcement. Donia did a great job looking all around the valley to see

575
00:50:57,540 --> 00:51:01,740
other cities are doing. I don't think you found any other cities who had done an official resolution.

576
00:51:02,700 --> 00:51:05,020
Logan City did have some kind of declaration.

577
00:51:11,240 --> 00:51:20,420
So all I'm asking is on this, if they come out with something, which they likely will,

578
00:51:21,740 --> 00:51:27,160
rather than giving the city latitude, I'm more in line with

579
00:51:29,220 --> 00:51:37,380
out right. North Logan had a ban, because they have Logan City Fire Chief. Logan City

580
00:51:37,380 --> 00:51:45,780
had a ban, so North Logan had it. And even if our fire chief said you could have the

581
00:51:45,780 --> 00:51:46,900
same safe zone,

582
00:51:50,650 --> 00:51:53,990
hotter and drier, I'm just worried about that.

583
00:51:55,990 --> 00:52:02,830
Not might have been confusing to some. I know I looked at it and addresses seem to be a little

584
00:52:02,830 --> 00:52:08,130
confusing. I was not sure if they were county addresses. I don't know if it was high park

585
00:52:08,130 --> 00:52:20,090
city addresses. Well the map only identified property in the high park, the ice. So I'm

586
00:52:20,090 --> 00:52:22,130
Okay, with that mayor, I mean, I've kind of joked

587
00:52:22,130 --> 00:52:24,110
that there weren't any bombs bursting in air

588
00:52:24,110 --> 00:52:26,370
when this pioneer is rolled into the valley

589
00:52:26,370 --> 00:52:30,890
and, you know, on the 24th and make Utah's only state

590
00:52:30,890 --> 00:52:34,910
that says we've got, you know, two weeks of July

591
00:52:34,910 --> 00:52:37,550
that we do fireworks and, you know, so.

592
00:52:38,990 --> 00:52:42,250
And this wouldn't affect like New Year's.

593
00:52:42,250 --> 00:52:43,170
Right, no.

594
00:52:43,550 --> 00:52:44,950
Not yet, wouldn't affect what?

595
00:52:45,310 --> 00:52:45,970
New Year's?

596
00:52:46,670 --> 00:52:49,150
No, we'll talk about that in December.

597
00:52:49,150 --> 00:52:50,850
We may not be hot but it could be dry.

598
00:52:54,590 --> 00:53:01,730
If I may, real quick, managing wire sparklers under 12 inches in length are not considered

599
00:53:01,730 --> 00:53:03,230
fireworks in Utah.

600
00:53:03,490 --> 00:53:08,050
They're considered an exempt explosive with anything over 12 inches.

601
00:53:09,230 --> 00:53:13,810
So that's what you're talking about here with Governor's order on that.

602
00:53:13,810 --> 00:53:21,350
So yeah, 12 inches or less would be allowed or do they even sell them that short?

603
00:53:22,470 --> 00:53:26,630
Yeah, well I know they sell a big ones. I bought the shortest for my grandkids

604
00:53:26,630 --> 00:53:31,110
that we did and we live in a safe zone by the way so you know I was I was okay

605
00:53:31,110 --> 00:53:35,790
they're just don't have a chief come by in my place but you know they were yeah

606
00:53:35,790 --> 00:53:39,750
they were the shortest little things but you look in that same consideration though

607
00:53:39,750 --> 00:53:46,010
So my kids, when they have that sparkler, they're doing this with them all over and if you're

608
00:53:46,010 --> 00:53:51,290
in an area right next to the hillside with that, it's as dangerous if not more than your

609
00:53:51,290 --> 00:53:52,490
area is going off.

610
00:53:52,710 --> 00:53:55,530
So that's my two cents worth is.

611
00:53:56,170 --> 00:54:00,750
But it's controllable by an adult who says, don't run out in the dry grass.

612
00:54:01,050 --> 00:54:04,030
You cannot control a model rocket once you buy a rocket.

613
00:54:04,030 --> 00:54:09,950
story though. So it comes out to the adults are there. I talked to some girls this weekend actually

614
00:54:09,950 --> 00:54:14,710
on the 4th. When I went up to pick up my boy they had four girls out in the park. I'm not ready

615
00:54:14,710 --> 00:54:19,330
to shoot out the fireworks. No adults. I'm like no, not doing that.

616
00:54:21,410 --> 00:54:22,850
Because that's what comes

617
00:54:22,850 --> 00:54:28,150
out to it. The adults are there and monitoring it. It's a different story if they're not I think is

618
00:54:28,150 --> 00:54:33,830
As dangerous. Well, I would agree. I would agree. Yeah, it's it's fire. Yeah,

619
00:54:37,220 --> 00:54:39,860
so the council okay with

620
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:45,700
If we come out in the outbreak band, you could see if Tiffany. Yeah.

621
00:54:47,770 --> 00:54:52,070
Yeah, I think it's for me. I think it's a ban on everything

622
00:54:52,730 --> 00:54:58,930
That's just my stance just this year. I think it's easier to enforce and I

623
00:54:59,970 --> 00:55:03,710
I would just think that it's cleared everyone. It's everything is banned.

624
00:55:04,870 --> 00:55:10,050
I know I heard fireworks going off between my house and your house over the forest.

625
00:55:11,750 --> 00:55:13,850
There were for sure fireworks going off.

626
00:55:14,910 --> 00:55:16,430
Is that a motion difference?

627
00:55:19,590 --> 00:55:21,470
Sure, I'll make that motion. I'll do that.

628
00:55:22,270 --> 00:55:23,490
I'll be the bad guy.

629
00:55:24,270 --> 00:55:36,970
We don't need the motion. I just want to. I didn't have a lot of time on the last one. So in the governor gave them air. They authority to do it. But I just want to read it by you this time.

630
00:55:37,750 --> 00:55:42,990
I think it's good. We just encourage people to save them for the New Year's Eve.

631
00:55:43,890 --> 00:55:52,870
It's hard to vote against something like that because if I vote again or that's one thing being

632
00:55:52,870 --> 00:55:59,670
voted against it and then we have a fire, it doesn't make me look pretty good. I couldn't support it because of our

633
00:55:59,670 --> 00:56:08,830
conditions. I would support a citywide. I support you there. Supporting a ban, you would be a

634
00:56:08,830 --> 00:56:11,830
Okay, I think you got it.

635
00:56:11,890 --> 00:56:13,470
I've seen too many of those big ones,

636
00:56:13,610 --> 00:56:15,310
tip sideways and go off them.

637
00:56:16,070 --> 00:56:17,190
You cannot control it.

638
00:56:17,330 --> 00:56:17,790
You don't have it there.

639
00:56:17,790 --> 00:56:19,950
There's any little bees that you can go

640
00:56:19,950 --> 00:56:21,090
a different direction too.

641
00:56:22,210 --> 00:56:22,390
Yeah.

642
00:56:24,310 --> 00:56:24,790
Okay.

643
00:56:29,420 --> 00:56:34,320
Is that a lot different for you as a police force

644
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:36,660
than what you had over the forest?

645
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:39,360
Didn't we do the same thing?

646
00:56:40,540 --> 00:56:41,140
Didn't we do?

647
00:56:41,140 --> 00:56:49,400
do the same thing. We have a safe zone through high part. Are we still going to have a safe zone? No, I think we're saying the mayor's asking for that right now.

648
00:56:49,780 --> 00:57:07,380
So that puts a cut and dry, didn't it? Yeah, and obviously we have the fire chief have his input, but we can, we can just say no on our safe zone on the first west here, lined up with Smithfields.

649
00:57:08,060 --> 00:57:17,180
there are six, excuse me, first East lined up with their six East. That's how Jeremy

650
00:57:17,180 --> 00:57:23,060
and I said, you know, we looked at it from north to south and figured that inside the

651
00:57:23,060 --> 00:57:33,660
city boundaries, it was very green and plush at this time, but it's going to be, you know,

652
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:37,220
couple of weeks from now we're going to have drier conditions.

653
00:57:39,420 --> 00:57:41,640
All right, we'll look to take

654
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:50,760
order and I'm sure the government will come up with something really late, but we'll be able

655
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:53,800
to take those or actions immediately.

656
00:58:00,340 --> 00:58:03,800
I think people will be watching for it, too. Yeah,

657
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:19,520
Yeah, because it really is his, his band gave me the authority to do that, but having your concurrence on it is better so we can react quicker.

658
00:58:20,460 --> 00:58:21,160
It's the next time.

659
00:58:22,300 --> 00:58:26,720
All right, the next item is any city business.

660
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:33,560
Yeah, there's, so we have one discussion item, is that what we're talking about?

661
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:34,300
Yep.

662
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:40,500
So as you all know, at the end of August, we have a city council meeting to the 26th.

663
00:58:40,500 --> 00:58:41,580
That is a very important meeting.

664
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:44,240
It is our tax increase public hearing.

665
00:58:45,980 --> 00:58:49,200
The problem with that meeting is that's the only thing we can have that night.

666
00:58:49,420 --> 00:58:51,620
We can't even have another business meeting that night.

667
00:58:51,780 --> 00:58:55,180
And so the question for the council is, we have a lot of things happening right now.

668
00:58:55,180 --> 00:59:00,700
We already know there's people trying to get things put forward on a city council agenda for that week

669
00:59:00,700 --> 00:59:06,520
And so we would just like to inquire about having an additional business meeting sometime that week

670
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:11,640
Is that something the council's interested in doing or do we just tell everybody tough luck?

671
00:59:11,660 --> 00:59:14,080
We're only doing the tax hearing that week

672
00:59:15,620 --> 00:59:21,560
So like we could do the tax hearing on the 25th? No, we have to do the tax hearing on the 26

673
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:28,800
But what we would do is have a regular city council meeting on the 25th or the 24th or the 27th

674
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:33,620
To have a regular business meeting

675
00:59:42,700 --> 00:59:48,520
Once a the to or Tuesday the 25th work

676
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:49,540
It works for me.

677
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:52,400
I think that would work.

678
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:57,160
Does...

679
00:59:57,160 --> 00:59:58,940
You have...

680
00:59:58,940 --> 00:59:59,880
There's a...

681
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:14,100
Just meeting on the 26th and it has to be that only that for that meeting. So regular city council, are you open to having another meeting on the 25th?

682
01:00:19,890 --> 01:00:23,390
I would be in favor of another meeting. Yeah.

683
01:00:25,550 --> 01:00:25,550
Yeah.

684
01:00:34,650 --> 01:00:35,290
Good.

685
01:00:35,290 --> 01:00:44,470
and 26. Okay. Okay. Anything else on? I was just re-effortize the next two meetings.

686
01:00:45,210 --> 01:01:00,490
We've got quite a few things that are coming up and with CRA and and back for the and we

687
01:01:00,490 --> 01:01:03,970
We got Wolf Packway, some discussion to have on that.

688
01:01:04,190 --> 01:01:07,970
We got Sunrise coming to present.

689
01:01:09,070 --> 01:01:10,790
Yeah, so some highlights.

690
01:01:12,130 --> 01:01:14,730
Shriver Foods came and did a work session with our people

691
01:01:14,730 --> 01:01:15,570
a couple of months ago.

692
01:01:15,870 --> 01:01:16,870
It looks like they're getting ready

693
01:01:16,870 --> 01:01:19,910
to submit some actual documents for something

694
01:01:19,910 --> 01:01:20,970
they want to plan on doing.

695
01:01:21,730 --> 01:01:23,230
And what they're doing is very time sensitive.

696
01:01:25,130 --> 01:01:27,230
So we're going to be having some tight deadlines

697
01:01:27,230 --> 01:01:27,870
for that one.

698
01:01:28,310 --> 01:01:30,070
As the mayor mentioned, we are gearing up

699
01:01:30,070 --> 01:01:34,750
to apply for more money to continue our Wolfpack Way Road project and so there's a couple

700
01:01:34,750 --> 01:01:37,950
deadlines we're going to have to meet Sunrise Engineering. He's going to kind of do a presentation

701
01:01:37,950 --> 01:01:44,390
for that and then yeah there are some other things that will be announced very shortly that

702
01:01:44,390 --> 01:01:50,170
will also be happening those nights. Oh and our RFP selection for the 22nd. We have a lot

703
01:01:50,170 --> 01:01:52,810
of things going on right now and next.

704
01:01:56,300 --> 01:01:58,880
I'm going to pull it up on my calendar. Can

705
01:02:05,310 --> 01:02:08,510
you show

706
01:02:11,260 --> 01:02:11,260
us

707
01:02:11,260 --> 01:02:17,620
And while before we go there, if I can, on the 26, that didn't show on your calendar,

708
01:02:17,740 --> 01:02:23,020
but that's when we would typically have our 4th Wednesday work session.

709
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:24,820
So, all right, we can't do that either.

710
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:28,480
That would be cancelled, so we'd have to do that another day.

711
01:02:28,700 --> 01:02:34,220
And we could do that on Tuesday, on the Tuesday prior, if we feel like we need to have a work session.

712
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:38,860
Or we could do it before a planning commission meeting, because that's our general plan work session.

713
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:40,640
We could do it pretty much anytime.

714
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:42,560
What's happening on the 22nd again?

715
01:02:43,780 --> 01:02:50,880
That's the day we're going to be selecting the consultant to do our parks and trails study and we have a few other things happening.

716
01:02:51,980 --> 01:02:54,760
I think Sunrise is coming in with,

717
01:02:57,440 --> 01:02:58,500
what was it?

718
01:03:00,220 --> 01:03:02,860
Joshua's talking about needs to present.

719
01:03:05,700 --> 01:03:08,020
They're coming on the 12th,

720
01:03:11,630 --> 01:03:14,930
August 12th, not Sunday.

721
01:03:16,910 --> 01:03:23,890
On the 15th of this month, I don't know the time yet, but there'll be a groundbreaking

722
01:03:25,270 --> 01:03:31,550
for something to stone or whatever they call their health.

723
01:03:34,670 --> 01:03:37,010
I need to give the time thing for Thailand.

724
01:03:37,530 --> 01:03:38,630
Yeah, we have meeting with him tomorrow.

725
01:03:38,950 --> 01:03:39,130
You can.

726
01:03:40,010 --> 01:03:40,830
We can pass from there.

727
01:03:40,830 --> 01:03:46,640
So on the 15th, hopefully you will do it in the morning before it gets real hot, but they'll

728
01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:49,440
have a groundbreaking, this is on the medical facility,

729
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:57,720
on the Peckway, and I will get you times on that.

730
01:03:58,180 --> 01:03:59,520
Council, love to have you there.

731
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:04,600
That's the only other thing I've got.

732
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:08,640
Stephanie, I'm certain you have things.

733
01:04:08,860 --> 01:04:09,660
I don't have a thing.

734
01:04:10,020 --> 01:04:10,240
OK.

735
01:04:10,980 --> 01:04:11,320
Thank you.

736
01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:15,780
I found it out a few months, so.

737
01:04:16,500 --> 01:04:16,720
Good.

738
01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:18,000
Thank you.

739
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:20,580
You don't need to, you don't need to.

740
01:04:20,580 --> 01:04:23,840
Tiffany, do you have anything on the front porch?

741
01:04:27,910 --> 01:04:31,690
Our next event will be the second Thursday of August.

742
01:04:31,890 --> 01:04:33,130
And we're doing a summer social.

743
01:04:33,830 --> 01:04:37,630
So we're going to have lunch and a lunch and some

744
01:04:38,350 --> 01:04:39,630
two-week-liver spots.

745
01:04:40,570 --> 01:04:41,810
I don't know if they're good to know you games,

746
01:04:41,910 --> 01:04:43,870
but interactive type things for people to do.

747
01:04:44,910 --> 01:04:47,970
We'd like everybody to come, like, come once.

748
01:04:48,270 --> 01:04:48,430
OK.

749
01:04:49,090 --> 01:04:49,730
Who's winning?

750
01:04:49,730 --> 01:04:50,970
I mean, sorry,

751
01:04:55,880 --> 01:05:00,640
we're driving to Montana, too, so I'll turn it when it's time to leave.

752
01:05:01,140 --> 01:05:03,260
So, we'll meet tomorrow.

753
01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:05,080
All right.

754
01:05:07,020 --> 01:05:09,620
If council has any other comment.

755
01:05:10,820 --> 01:05:16,560
I just wanted to mention the planning commission has done a lot of good work.

756
01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:22,160
Looking at updating some of our zones,

757
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:30,720
especially looking at the RT and the mixed use, so I don't know if all that's going to

758
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:37,020
capture it in minutes, but I know that you're having some good discussions along that line

759
01:05:37,020 --> 01:05:40,780
and I don't know at what point they'll be coming to us. I don't know if there's anything

760
01:05:40,780 --> 01:05:44,460
more. Marcus, we need to say about that, but we need to.

761
01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:49,520
So all the code updates that we had talked about, the City Council wants to do for all of

762
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:54,120
our zoning with the help of our intern who's been great.

763
01:05:54,900 --> 01:05:56,660
We've got them on a little schedule now.

764
01:05:56,980 --> 01:06:01,820
So the plan is every planning commission meeting will have two public hearings and two discussion

765
01:06:01,820 --> 01:06:04,860
items, and that will start at the next meeting.

766
01:06:04,860 --> 01:06:07,160
So there'll be two public hearings to discuss new ordinances.

767
01:06:08,020 --> 01:06:11,480
And right after the planning commission finishes those, they'll start working on the next two.

768
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:23,120
Will he be pushing those changes and presenting the rationale to the City Council so we can get them on our agenda and get them approved as fast as they're approved with them?

769
01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:37,500
Yeah, I can talk to him about that. We've got a meeting tomorrow to go over the progress and make a plan for getting all these ordinances pushed through. So I'll see if we can get his, he does these little presentations or he talks about all the work that he's done. I'll see if he can come and do those for the City Council.

770
01:06:37,500 --> 01:06:45,560
He's done a really good job, I listen to the presentation last week and he's awesome.

771
01:06:46,020 --> 01:06:50,160
I just want to make sure that that's going to move forward in to us and

772
01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:53,580
make it added to these busy meetings we have over the next couple of months.

773
01:06:53,820 --> 01:06:55,800
And say, I think to do a lot of good things.

774
01:06:55,920 --> 01:07:02,080
One of the things that they talked about also over the last month or so is why

775
01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:10,480
why they are even part of the review for development agreements, because it's essentially

776
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:16,760
a legislative action and that's not what they're there for, they're to help us plan and

777
01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:20,380
you know all the rest of it, so I don't know how that gets to us.

778
01:07:20,580 --> 01:07:29,400
Well that would be a change, the development agreements, well our public hearings are in

779
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:39,480
planning commission we would have to specify that one specifically to be at the city council level and so yeah it's a

780
01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:45,660
little complicated we were looking at that today actually talking through a couple of things because I think with all

781
01:07:45,660 --> 01:07:50,120
these code changes we're doing in the end what we're going to have to do is probably update the city's

782
01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:55,440
approval process as far as who gets to see what yeah especially with the comments of the planning

783
01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:59,500
and commission about, you know, they want to spend the time, their time working on things

784
01:07:59,500 --> 01:08:01,700
that they can influence, they can have an impact on.

785
01:08:02,460 --> 01:08:09,100
And so, at the end of all these changes, probably this winter, we'll get into our land use

786
01:08:09,100 --> 01:08:12,880
authority tables, and be looking at who's going to be spending their time looking at these

787
01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:13,800
plants and approving them.

788
01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:16,400
So we're not wasting anybody's time, who doesn't have to.

789
01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:22,920
And I'll just, in the Harold journal, the other day that some other cities are putting

790
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:28,540
a moratorium on data centers? Do we need to do something like that?

791
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:29,700
We're done necessarily.

792
01:08:32,380 --> 01:08:35,560
Don't we have anybody begging down our door to build a data center?

793
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:40,300
But if that's something you wanted to do, we could look into it.

794
01:08:41,240 --> 01:08:43,720
We're hoping that with the update to our land use table,

795
01:08:44,060 --> 01:08:47,420
that we can kind of head that off before it becomes an issue.

796
01:08:50,090 --> 01:08:55,310
And I was just going to say as I interact with the staff and attend some of the development

797
01:08:55,310 --> 01:09:05,250
review committee meetings that when I saw it happen in this past week at the front window

798
01:09:05,250 --> 01:09:13,010
with one of our staff that seems to me there's a lot of people who aren't following the code

799
01:09:13,010 --> 01:09:18,410
or they don't like the code and so if they don't like the answer that they're given from

800
01:09:18,410 --> 01:09:25,190
staff from a municipal code. They want to talk to somebody else about it. And I suspect a lot of that ends up with the mayor

801
01:09:25,670 --> 01:09:30,050
and I don't think it's right that the mayor has to deal with this stuff all the time.

802
01:09:30,350 --> 01:09:38,150
In some of it, there's nothing I can do about it because I'm not in that line of decisions.

803
01:09:38,150 --> 01:10:05,890
So I guess, and I see it, it seems like week after week where we, to some degree, the last couple of weeks involved the visionary and development agreement stuff that I just, I would hope that is a city council that we would have the backs of our staff when they're enforcing the codes.

804
01:10:05,890 --> 01:10:09,690
and at some point, I don't know how it works,

805
01:10:09,870 --> 01:10:11,150
but maybe they just need to say,

806
01:10:11,430 --> 01:10:13,510
we'll call Dave Fowles on the City Council,

807
01:10:13,770 --> 01:10:15,230
or any one of us, right?

808
01:10:15,830 --> 01:10:18,330
Because they're the ones that can change the code

809
01:10:18,330 --> 01:10:21,810
and because I just see that hours and hours,

810
01:10:22,450 --> 01:10:25,030
that our residents are paying our staff

811
01:10:25,910 --> 01:10:28,330
to go round and round and over and over again

812
01:10:28,330 --> 01:10:29,230
with the same thing.

813
01:10:29,470 --> 01:10:32,350
When I said these DRC meetings and it's the same thing

814
01:10:32,350 --> 01:10:34,630
that they showed before and there's requirements

815
01:10:34,630 --> 01:10:39,590
in there and there's timelines and then they get all in a huff and why aren't you doing this

816
01:10:39,590 --> 01:10:44,790
and that and they think they need to go to the top of the line and I just I tired of hearing that

817
01:10:44,790 --> 01:10:49,390
and seeing that I think we have businesses out there that are running businesses that aren't

818
01:10:49,390 --> 01:10:57,850
in compliance with our code. Yeah they didn't get the answer they want from from the front office

819
01:10:57,850 --> 01:11:03,310
and so they're going to go to Mikael then Marcus and me and trying to wear it down to get the

820
01:11:03,310 --> 01:11:10,290
naturally. And they say the phrase doesn't pencil. Yeah, it doesn't pencil. So anyway,

821
01:11:10,470 --> 01:11:14,950
I just, I would, from what I see, I would, I want to just say that I think our staff

822
01:11:14,950 --> 01:11:21,330
is doing a great job. They're doing what they can do to enforce the code. But, you know,

823
01:11:22,050 --> 01:11:26,850
there've been times and places where in other cities, perhaps, where, you know, if you just,

824
01:11:27,030 --> 01:11:31,510
you know, the squeaky wheel gets agrees. And, and, you know, they're in there demanding

825
01:11:31,510 --> 01:11:34,790
phone numbers so they can call somebody over and over again I saw Brett the

826
01:11:34,790 --> 01:11:39,610
other day phone call after phone call from people from the same person what's

827
01:11:39,610 --> 01:11:47,050
that from the same person you know and so anyway I just want to do you do great

828
01:11:47,050 --> 01:11:52,150
say that the our staff's doing a great job the best they can do and and it's upon

829
01:11:52,150 --> 01:11:56,250
us as a city council if we need to change some stuff we need to take that

830
01:11:56,250 --> 01:12:00,550
responsibility and we need to do our homework and make the changes that need to be

831
01:12:01,330 --> 01:12:07,410
If they need to be made and if not, we need to pull our full weight behind what we have in our staff.

832
01:12:07,490 --> 01:12:13,010
I agree with you, but I'm one vote and I can't vote unless it's on the agenda.

833
01:12:14,150 --> 01:12:15,930
So I think we need to remember that.

834
01:12:16,950 --> 01:12:18,030
I agree with you.

835
01:12:18,290 --> 01:12:20,970
I appreciate our staff and they're doing a great job.

836
01:12:22,410 --> 01:12:29,110
It comes to us if we don't work with the business, we can vote no on it.

837
01:12:29,110 --> 01:12:34,750
And I've recently heard that some cities aren't doing development agreements and all the

838
01:12:34,750 --> 01:12:39,430
time that we've spent on development agreements, I'm kind of thinking maybe that's not a bad

839
01:12:39,430 --> 01:12:44,870
idea to say, not to say that our codes are perfect because I've got some issues with,

840
01:12:44,970 --> 01:12:47,970
you know, our transitions, you know, our residential transition.

841
01:12:48,290 --> 01:12:53,810
And so I think maybe development agreements are okay to some degree because we didn't get

842
01:12:53,810 --> 01:13:02,890
quite right but generally it's it's already in writing and just follow what it is that the city is

843
01:13:02,890 --> 01:13:09,750
requiring for that particular you know land use and anyway thank thank you for listening I'm

844
01:13:09,750 --> 01:13:17,190
done mayor have a great week okay but it was nice to protect right from numerous phone calls and

845
01:13:17,190 --> 01:13:21,310
Well, and Marcus and Miguel and Mayor and everybody.

846
01:13:21,810 --> 01:13:24,210
That's part of dealing with the public.

847
01:13:24,650 --> 01:13:27,570
Yes, that is part of the job.

848
01:13:28,030 --> 01:13:28,830
We're figuring it out.

849
01:13:29,230 --> 01:13:29,970
You know, you're right.

850
01:13:30,110 --> 01:13:33,930
We don't have perfect, we don't have perfect codes

851
01:13:34,470 --> 01:13:36,190
and there's places we can improve.

852
01:13:36,650 --> 01:13:39,070
And we're welcome to do that.

853
01:13:39,650 --> 01:13:42,550
Development agreements are permitted by state code

854
01:13:42,550 --> 01:13:47,350
but we should be the

855
01:13:49,500 --> 01:13:50,840
exception, not the rule.

856
01:13:51,060 --> 01:13:51,480
There you go.

857
01:13:51,700 --> 01:13:51,800
Yeah.

858
01:13:53,100 --> 01:13:53,460
And yeah.

859
01:13:53,780 --> 01:13:54,100
OK.

860
01:13:54,580 --> 01:13:55,400
Anyway, thank you.

861
01:13:55,660 --> 01:13:56,640
I have some questions.

862
01:13:57,140 --> 01:13:57,280
OK.

863
01:13:58,200 --> 01:13:59,260
Hi, part days.

864
01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:01,800
Fireworks.

865
01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:02,580
We have more.

866
01:14:04,790 --> 01:14:05,370
Do we have more?

867
01:14:05,470 --> 01:14:06,850
We haven't used any of ours.

868
01:14:07,250 --> 01:14:11,110
So it was fired off earlier in July.

869
01:14:11,730 --> 01:14:13,170
On the second, on the second.

870
01:14:13,170 --> 01:14:23,290
That was a person in the valley that wanted to have license and certified the

871
01:14:23,290 --> 01:14:32,650
handle and he would do at his residence but he couldn't. So he asked if it

872
01:14:32,650 --> 01:14:39,490
could be a city celebration for the fourth. So it was all his his expense. The city

873
01:14:39,490 --> 01:14:45,450
did not spend anything on that. Well, and that's the other question I have. I read somewhere,

874
01:14:46,550 --> 01:14:52,350
someone's mad that we're spending their money. Oh, the fireworks we've done is, we haven't done

875
01:14:52,350 --> 01:14:59,970
any. Yeah. I want to make sure that people know that. Not only was the second donut is, but step-

876
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:28,600
Also, the home town tans ones are sponsored by cash-fally bank. So again, no money out of text there. If they don't know what they make it up, they assume the worst. That's okay. That's okay. And you know, if they want to know that we're sure to share with the market shared with the individual that was really upset. And we didn't spend any money. So.

877
01:15:29,200 --> 01:15:33,420
and it's not tax-care funds that are spending on the

878
01:15:33,420 --> 01:15:36,480
celebration. We have sponsors that are doing things, so.

879
01:15:38,180 --> 01:15:41,740
But we could spend money on getting the stockings out of the

880
01:15:41,740 --> 01:15:42,780
United States.

881
01:15:46,480 --> 01:15:51,320
That was the e-mail that we got. Mayor Ilight, I've got one more

882
01:15:51,320 --> 01:15:57,280
thing. Sorry, it's a huge deal. Oh, I thought maybe you're

883
01:15:57,280 --> 01:16:01,940
down there. Keep going. Keep going. I've been sitting here waiting for you to

884
01:16:01,940 --> 01:16:11,000
talk all night Kirk. That just came out quick quick. The route we start up

885
01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:14,700
here will always do go straight down and down with it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

886
01:16:14,860 --> 01:16:15,280
What time?

887
01:16:17,400 --> 01:16:22,200
9 30s. I put that on your paper. Oh, okay. I didn't pray.

888
01:16:22,200 --> 01:16:28,600
three. Okay, I didn't read all that. Okay. All right, Dave, you use all your

889
01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:38,360
trump cards. I'll swing out here and take three minutes. We've got two schools

890
01:16:38,360 --> 01:16:45,020
that are going to start here in town in a couple months. I saw an email this

891
01:16:45,020 --> 01:16:49,500
afternoon. Somebody wants to come and talk about safe routes. Amy wants to come

892
01:16:49,500 --> 01:16:54,660
I'm going to talk to you for asking for two months, yeah, but I think I saw that this afternoon

893
01:16:54,660 --> 01:17:00,500
once they come in a couple weeks and present that, I haven't heard anything about the

894
01:17:00,500 --> 01:17:01,060
middle school.

895
01:17:02,960 --> 01:17:11,400
As big a concern as that is, I'm also aware that, you know, at the middle school, they built

896
01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:12,320
the road down there.

897
01:17:13,060 --> 01:17:18,860
We're going to accept utilities, roads and whatever it is, wherever the line breaks between

898
01:17:18,860 --> 01:17:25,480
school property in our property, we're going to take responsibility for roads and all those other

899
01:17:25,480 --> 01:17:33,900
utilities and I know you've reached out in the staff reach out. I just am concerned mayor that

900
01:17:35,400 --> 01:17:41,500
school district has not been acting in good faith with the city, that we just don't have a clue

901
01:17:41,500 --> 01:17:51,040
what they're doing and the timing and their slow responses to requests. I would just request

902
01:17:51,040 --> 01:18:00,020
that maybe you have a little sit down with the superintendent or something to fix this because I

903
01:18:00,020 --> 01:18:06,440
just can't you know the small town of Hyde Park we're getting two schools coming on and what do we

904
01:18:06,440 --> 01:18:10,080
know about it. We have had one person from the school district standing in front of this

905
01:18:10,080 --> 01:18:14,160
council and say it's thinking word in the last year about it.

906
01:18:15,740 --> 01:18:19,600
Marcus let's you and I just

907
01:18:23,250 --> 01:18:28,150
worked together for me to send something to Superintendent

908
01:18:28,150 --> 01:18:35,430
McKee because I don't want to cross that boundary of right now where you have some

909
01:18:37,510 --> 01:18:37,990
ongoing

910
01:18:37,990 --> 01:18:46,830
discussions legally with the school district, but this is something else I think that needs

911
01:18:46,830 --> 01:18:57,480
to come to the city, so I agree with you with everything you said from needing somebody

912
01:18:57,480 --> 01:19:02,160
here to not dealing with Hyde Park in good faith. I agree with all of that.

913
01:19:05,540 --> 01:19:06,860
So I will,

914
01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:17,900
can I ask a question mayor about the schools, who, because of who they have as their inspectors, who grants them their occupancy?

915
01:19:18,620 --> 01:19:23,280
So the school district gets their building permits directly from the state of Utah.

916
01:19:24,220 --> 01:19:28,320
Cash County building department is doing all the inspections on the school.

917
01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:36,140
I believe they still get the CFO issued from the state after the county gives it the final

918
01:19:36,780 --> 01:19:39,100
seal of approval. I'm pretty sure that's how it works.

919
01:19:39,100 --> 01:19:41,340
But we get to inspect our utilities.

920
01:19:43,080 --> 01:19:47,320
Yeah, that's one of the things we're having to little struggle with right now. But yeah,

921
01:19:47,460 --> 01:19:52,040
we're going to be doing our best to get those roads and utilities inspected before we adopt

922
01:19:52,040 --> 01:19:57,040
them as public infrastructure. A lot of them are buried now, so we're just going to see

923
01:19:57,040 --> 01:20:01,980
we can find. But we'll put something together for the superintendent.

924
01:20:04,630 --> 01:20:05,990
Anything else council?

925
01:20:09,890 --> 01:20:16,250
Good morning. Is it too late to put something in the budget? I just think we need to call

926
01:20:16,250 --> 01:20:26,050
this patio over here to preserve the cement. Call it. Call it. Call it. Call it in this west

927
01:20:33,350 --> 01:20:39,410
We do set aside money every year for building improvements, so we could potentially pull from that.

928
01:20:40,250 --> 01:20:42,330
So we wouldn't necessarily need to change the budget.

929
01:20:42,430 --> 01:20:45,610
I keep mentioning it to some people and they just brush me out.

930
01:20:46,170 --> 01:20:46,330
Okay.

931
01:20:46,650 --> 01:20:47,810
But it doesn't need to be done.

932
01:20:48,910 --> 01:20:49,130
Okay.

933
01:20:51,130 --> 01:20:58,970
All right, if there's nothing else I'd look for emotions from the council. I'll make a motion that we go home.

934
01:20:59,130 --> 01:21:05,730
Got a motion to leave. Is there a second? Second from Kirk. All those in favor say aye.

935
01:21:06,450 --> 01:21:06,990
Aye. Aye.

936
01:21:06,990 --> 01:21:10,530
Thank you very much.

937
01:21:10,530 --> 01:21:11,810
Thank you very much.