[0:00] Call to me in order. Please join me for [0:02] the pledge of allegiance. [0:07] » I pledge allegiance to the flag of the [0:09] United States of America and to the [0:11] republic for which it stands, one nation [0:15] under God, indivisible, with liberty and [0:18] justice for all. [0:25] » Okay, welcome everybody. This is our [0:27] city council meeting for Monday, August [0:29] the 10th, 2026. [0:31] Start with a roll call, please. [0:33] >> Weber? [0:34] >> Yes. [0:34] >> Anna? [0:35] >> Yes. [0:35] >> Moore? [0:36] >> Yes. [0:36] >> Crusader? [0:37] >> Here. [0:38] >> Manor is excused. O'Laughlin? [0:40] >> Yes. [0:41] >> Appleby? [0:42] >> Here. [0:43] >> Next we move to item number three. I [0:45] need a motion to approve the agenda as [0:47] presented. [0:48] >> So moved. [0:49] >> Second. [0:49] >> I have a motion and a second. All in [0:50] favor? [0:51] >> Aye. [0:52] >> Opposed? [0:53] Passes 6-0. [0:55] Next we move to public comment. [0:58] Uh Mr. Hertzberg, would you like to come [1:00] forward? [1:01] >> Yes. [1:05] » Just before you start, and just so you [1:07] are aware, it's it's limited to 5 [1:09] minutes. I'll try not to cut you off in [1:10] the middle of something, but when I get [1:11] close, I'll let you know that you're [1:12] close. [1:13] >> Not a problem. Thank you. [1:14] >> Okay, thank you. [1:14] >> is John Hertzberg. I'm here representing [1:16] my uncle, Roger Tempest. I know he has [1:19] communicated with several of you last [1:20] night or in the past in trying to [1:22] discuss [1:23] his [1:25] non-willingness to be annexed into the [1:27] city. He has no wish to be part of the [1:29] city limits. [1:30] He understands there's an annexation [1:32] discussion of it, but however the vote [1:34] goes, he would like to propose he is not [1:36] annexed, and however he would go against [1:38] that. [1:39] So he asked that I come here to [1:41] represent him and to listen to what is [1:42] being said and to speak on his behalf. [1:45] Are there any questions? [1:47] >> Is there anything to read about that you were looking at? [1:49] >> We can't do that. [1:50] >> [clears throat] [1:50] >> This is public comment. [1:51] >> Sure. [1:53] >> Uh we're not allowed to go back and [1:54] forth during public comment. [1:55] >> Not a problem. [1:56] >> It's not on the agenda, otherwise. [1:58] >> All right. [1:59] >> Thank you Thank you for coming in. I [2:00] appreciate it. [2:00] >> Thank you. [2:01] >> It is on the agenda. [2:02] >> And how do [2:03] >> but you can't You can't discuss it [2:04] during the public comment. You get to do [2:05] it when that item comes up. [2:07] >> All right. [2:07] >> Next, we move to item number five. Um [2:10] this is the proc- the poppy [2:11] proclamation, [2:13] um which I'll now read. [2:15] Whereas America is the land of freedom [2:17] preserved and protected willingly and [2:19] freely by citizen soldiers. Whereas [2:21] millions who have answered the call to [2:23] arms have died in the field of battle. [2:25] Whereas a nation at peace must be [2:27] reminded of the price of war and the [2:29] debt owed to those who have died in war. [2:31] Whereas the red poppy has been [2:32] designated a symbol of sacrifice of [2:34] lives in all wars. And [2:37] whereas the VFW Ladies Auxiliary Post [2:40] 2440 has pledged to remind America [2:43] annually of this debt through the [2:45] distribution of the the memorial flower. [2:47] Therefore, I, Brad Blackorby, Mayor of [2:49] Independence, Buchanan County, Iowa, do [2:50] hereby proclaim August 27th to the 29th, [2:53] 2026 as Poppy Days, and ask that all [2:56] citizens pay [2:58] a tribute to those that have made the [2:59] ultimate sacrifice in the name of [3:01] freedom by wearing and displaying the [3:03] memorial poppy on these days. [3:05] And I'm going to sign this now on this [3:07] day [3:09] as the mayor. [3:12] Today is the is August the 10th. [3:16] Did you want to get a picture first or [3:23] Do you want one copy of this, by the [3:24] way? [3:25] >> Um that's fine. [3:27] >> No. Yes or no? [3:28] >> If you have it next year. [3:31] » I have to sign another one. That's all. [3:35] I think I can probably arrange that. [3:37] What days is it going to be? [3:38] >> The 27th through the 29th. [3:44] » Why don't you give me a call if you want [3:45] me to do any hours? I'll try to help you [3:46] out. [3:50] » So nice of you to offer. [4:26] » Sure. [4:32] I don't have any cash with me right now. [4:33] >> Yeah, me either. [4:34] >> I'll pay. Be careful. We don't want you [4:36] standing around not doing anything. [4:39] You're welcome. [4:40] Yeah, that's right. That's right. [4:50] That's free without having to do it [4:51] lectures all bundled up. [4:58] Thank you very much. Appreciate it. [5:01] I'm trying to get cash right here. [5:09] Mhm, thank you. [5:14] Do I give him [5:16] Okay, just give me a call. [5:18] All right, okay. [5:21] Thanks. [5:22] Okay, let's move to item number six, [5:25] which is the oath of officer, Officer [5:27] Brock Barnhart. Do you want to come up [5:29] meet me at the podium, please? [5:34] » Hi. [5:37] » Welcome. [5:37] >> Yeah. [5:40] » Welcome again. [5:45] This one. [5:48] Go slowly and then you just read it [5:50] back. [5:53] I thought [5:55] about my heart. [5:56] >> I solemnly swear that I will support the [5:57] Constitution of the United States. [5:59] >> I will solemnly swear that I will [6:00] support the Constitution of the United [6:01] States. [6:02] >> And the Constitution of the state of [6:03] Iowa. [6:03] >> And the Constitution of the state of [6:05] Iowa. [6:05] >> And that I will faithfully and [6:06] impartially [6:07] >> And that I will faithfully and [6:08] impartially [6:08] >> to the best of my ability [6:10] >> discharge all duties of the position of [6:12] patrol officer [6:13] >> discharge all duties of the position [6:15] >> of patrol officer [6:16] >> in the city of Independence [6:18] >> as now and here here and after required [6:19] by law. [6:20] >> as now and here after required by law. [6:22] >> Okay. [6:23] >> So, I need you to sign up here for me. [6:25] I'm going to put the [6:26] 10th day [6:28] August [6:31] I just need you to sign and [6:41] » Hm? Sorry. [6:42] >> That'll be fine. [6:43] >> [laughter] [6:46] » And then if you [6:50] » I apologize. [6:51] Did you have any questions for me? [6:52] >> Yes. [6:53] >> Do you want me to give you [6:54] >> I can send another one for you. [6:56] >> No. [6:56] I got one already. [6:58] >> Why do you have any questions for [7:05] » [applause] [7:08] » Thanks. Thank you. [7:11] >> Oh, well. [7:14] » Thank you. [7:14] >> Yeah. Welcome. [7:16] >> Welcome. [7:16] >> Thank you. [7:27] » Okay, let's move to item number seven. [7:32] Uh I need a motion to accept and approve [7:34] the consent agenda as follows. [7:36] The minutes of the July 27, 2026 regular [7:39] meeting. The Pat's Tap Class C retail [7:42] alcohol license renewal that includes [7:44] outdoor service and living quarters [7:48] with tentative effective date of [7:49] September 1, 2026 through August 31, [7:52] 2027. [7:53] A request to hunt within city limits [7:56] from Keith Donnelly [7:57] for the October 1, 2026 to October to [8:01] sorry to January 10, 2027 bow hunting [8:03] season. [8:04] A request to hunt within city limits [8:07] from Christopher Meyer [8:09] for October 1, 2026 to January 10, 2027 [8:13] bow hunting season. [8:14] Request to hunt within city limits from [8:17] is it Corrine? [8:19] Meyer [8:20] for the October 1, 2026 to January 10, [8:23] 2027 bow hunting season. [8:25] Excuse me and special event application [8:28] for Buchanan County tourism [8:30] for the Independence mural celebration [8:32] to be held on Tuesday, August the 25th [8:33] of 2026. Do I have a motion? [8:35] >> So moved. [8:36] >> I have a second. [8:37] >> Second. [8:38] >> All in favor? [8:39] >> Aye. [8:40] >> Opposed? Passes 6-0. [8:42] Next we move to item number eight. [8:45] I need a motion to approve the claims [8:46] for payment. [8:47] >> So moved. [8:49] >> I have a [8:50] >> Second. [8:50] >> I have a motion and a second. All in [8:51] favor? [8:52] >> Aye. [8:53] >> Opposed? Passes 6-0. Next we move to [8:56] item number nine which is a bank [8:57] reconciliation. This is for information [8:59] only. Does anybody have any questions or [9:00] comments with this? [9:01] >> Yeah, I had one question on page 47. [9:04] >> Hold on one second. [9:12] Okay. [9:13] >> The Oakwood Cemetery. [9:15] So that's showing $566.16 [9:21] and then 19,131.80. [9:23] So is our spending money [9:26] 19,000? [9:29] » Not necessarily. [9:32] I mean that's I'd have to look back [9:35] because this only captures certain [9:37] things. I'd have to look back at the [9:39] donation spreadsheet [9:41] and what you guys have what the city [9:43] hall has received for donations. [9:45] >> So, can I get a record of that? How much [9:47] is in there so we know what we have for [9:49] spending because [9:51] we want to come up with some [9:52] we want to start buying some stones. [9:54] >> In order to spend, you'd have to talk [9:56] with [9:57] Bob Beatty for the spending authority [9:59] because it may not have been budgeted. [10:02] So, just because you see that $19,000 [10:05] does not mean you can necessarily spend [10:06] that $19,000. [10:08] >> But we can also do that through a [10:09] budget. We can also do that through a [10:10] budget amendment if there's something [10:11] that you guys want to use donated money [10:13] to pay for. [10:14] >> But we'd like to know how much it is [10:15] because we're going to reach out and try [10:16] to [10:17] start purchasing some some stones and [10:20] we want to know how many of those we can [10:21] purchase. [10:23] Because the more we buy, [10:25] hopefully the price we can get down a [10:26] little bit. [10:27] >> Sure. We can [10:29] So, we can provide that for you. [10:30] >> Thanks. [10:31] >> Okay. Moving to item number 10, and [10:34] that's revenue and expenses to date. [10:35] Again, this is information only. Do any [10:37] of you have any questions with regard to [10:38] that? [10:40] Okay, hearing none, we'll move to item [10:42] number 11. [10:43] Um this is a second reading of the [10:45] ordinance amendment to code section [10:47] 1.155 fines and fees um schedule. [10:51] Um [10:52] this was a this was first um read on [10:54] July the 27th. [10:56] So, I need a motion to approve the [10:58] second reading of an ordinance that [10:59] amends provisions pertaining to section [11:01] 1.15 fines and fees schedule. [11:04] >> So moved. [11:04] >> Second. [11:05] >> I have a motion and a second. Is there [11:06] further discussion regarding this? [11:10] Hearing none, this will be a roll call [11:11] vote. [11:12] >> Hannah. [11:12] >> Yes. [11:13] >> Moore. [11:14] >> Yes. [11:14] >> Prichard. [11:15] >> Yes. [11:16] >> O'Laughlin. [11:17] >> Yes. [11:17] >> Appleby. [11:18] >> No. [11:19] >> Weber. [11:19] >> Yes. [11:20] >> So, that passes 5-1. Um I'm going to um [11:24] unless I'm going to assume that if I [11:26] asked if you for shortened um suspending the statutory time that [11:31] you would you would not agree to that. [11:33] Is that right? [11:34] >> Correct. [11:35] >> Okay. I don't want to waste the time [11:36] doing it because because without [11:38] Council Member um [11:40] Manor here, we would need six out of six [11:42] and since you're going to vote no on it, [11:43] there's no point in doing that. So, [11:45] we're not going to we're going to forego [11:46] that. [11:47] Okay, thank you. [11:49] Um next we'll move to item number 12, [11:51] which is a first reading [11:53] of an ordinance um amendment to chapter [11:55] 69 parking regulations. I need a motion [11:58] to approve the first reading of an [12:00] ordinance amending the provisions to [12:01] chapter 69 parking regulations. [12:04] >> So moved. [12:05] >> Can I get a second as well? [12:06] >> Second. [12:07] >> Okay, we talked about this at the August [12:09] 3rd um work session. [12:12] Um there are two issues here. One is um [12:15] creating a no parking area on the east [12:18] side of 5th Avenue Northeast [12:20] um from the [12:23] from 5th Avenue Northeast um and 2nd [12:26] Street intersection as you come toward [12:29] First Street. [12:31] And this the the second part of it is [12:35] to create a no parking area on both [12:36] sides of the street on 17th Street [12:39] Southeast. [12:41] Um and that would be [12:46] Is there a time limit on that? I forgot. [12:48] >> Yeah, yeah, there is. So, the one for 5th Avenue I want to [12:52] back up. The one for 5th Avenue starts [12:54] from the south curve of 2nd Street [12:55] Northeast and extends 50 ft to the [12:57] south. That is to encompass that first [12:59] parking stall that we discussed during [13:00] the work session for that um it would be [13:03] the [13:04] southeast corner of that intersection. [13:06] That first stall that would be a no [13:07] parking area. [13:09] Uh the other piece of this ordinance is [13:10] 17th Street Southeast both sides starts [13:12] from the west curve of what is locally [13:14] known as what wastewater treatment road [13:16] extends 1,000 ft to the west and that [13:19] parking prohibition expires on July 1 of [13:22] '27 absent prior action from the [13:24] council. [13:27] » Okay, can we separate these two out [13:29] because I don't [13:31] >> They're both [13:31] >> with one and not the other. [13:33] >> They're both part of that one ordinance. [13:34] >> So, can we change that so it's not [13:39] >> It's required. [13:39] >> It wasn't like this when we [13:41] >> The reason that we put them together is [13:43] because they're both within chapter 69 [13:44] parking regulations of the county. [13:45] >> I get why you would might do that, but [13:47] they're two different roads, two [13:49] different situations, and they should be [13:51] separate. [13:53] >> I would say it's up to the council what [13:54] they would like us to do. [13:58] » Is there Is there one of these in [13:59] particular that that you're opposed to [14:01] versus the other one? [14:02] >> Yeah, the one I told you on the courthouse and the quick start. [14:08] >> I believe at this point we could just [14:09] move forward voting and see how we go [14:10] with that. [14:11] >> We can take care of it at a later [14:12] >> That is exactly what I was going to [14:14] suggest. See how the vote turns out, and [14:16] if the vote it does not pass, then we [14:18] can look at separating and and bringing [14:20] it up at another time. [14:23] >> Okay, so if you're not in favor of both [14:24] sections of it, she would vote no then. [14:26] >> Yeah, I'm a [14:27] >> Okay, we'll have a roll call vote then. [14:29] >> O'Loughlin [14:30] >> Yes. [14:31] >> Appleby [14:32] >> No. [14:32] >> Weber [14:33] >> Yes. [14:33] >> Anna [14:34] >> Yes. [14:34] >> Moore [14:35] >> Yes. [14:35] >> Rumsauer [14:36] >> Yes. [14:38] Okay, that passes 5-1 then. [14:42] All right, we'll move to item number [14:44] Oh, wait a minute. [14:47] I'm going to forego the again the [14:48] suspending rule because I we already [14:51] know the answer to to that. So, [14:53] we'll move to item number 13, which is a [14:56] first reading of an ordinance uh [14:58] amendment to section 66.03, which is the [15:01] load limits upon certain streets. [15:04] Um motion to approve first reading of an [15:06] ordinance that amends the provisions of [15:07] chapter 66.03 [15:09] load limits upon certain streets. Do I [15:12] have a motion? [15:13] >> I moved. [15:13] >> Second. [15:14] >> I have a motion and a second. Um we [15:16] talked about this again at the work [15:17] session on August 3rd. [15:19] Um [15:20] this is to um [15:22] revise the 6-ton weight limit [15:25] from the area of the wastewater [15:28] treatment plant back 620 ft. The [15:31] original coded section ordinance section [15:33] says 1250 ft. [15:35] So, we'd be reducing that that [15:38] weight restriction [15:41] from 600 from 1250 ft to 620 ft. [15:45] >> I got a motion already, right? [15:47] >> I'll second that. [15:47] >> Okay. So, discussion with regard to this [15:50] further discussion since we talked about [15:51] it already. [15:51] >> of a moot point. There's no scales out [15:53] there. How would we [15:55] >> So, the way that that would work from an [15:56] enforcement perspective is if the police [15:58] department sees a vehicle that they [15:59] believe is in excess of 6 tons, they [16:01] could stop and ticket that vehicle. [16:03] >> D O D can they can affect a license. [16:06] So, that would be camera. [16:11] » Is there further discussion with regard [16:14] to this? [16:15] >> We are departing from [16:21] » No, if there's no further discussion [16:22] then um, this will be a roll call vote. [16:24] >> Hannah. [16:25] >> Yes. [16:25] >> Moore. [16:26] >> Yes. [16:26] >> Presider. [16:27] >> Yes. [16:28] >> Maynor, Ursin, and Mine. O'Loughlin. [16:30] >> Yes. [16:31] >> Appleby. [16:31] >> Yes. [16:32] >> Weber. [16:32] >> Yes. [16:33] >> Okay. Would Would any of you oppose um, [16:38] suspending the statutory rules so that [16:39] this can be heard today as opposed to in [16:41] two further sessions? [16:43] >> Yeah, I would oppose that. [16:44] >> Okay, we won't go through that. [16:47] Move to item number 14 then and this is [16:49] a first reading of an ordinance [16:51] amendment to chapter Excuse me, it's to [16:53] section 60 section 24 [16:56] .04 airport board powers and duties. I'm [16:59] in a motion to approve the first reading [17:01] of an ordinance amending the provisions [17:03] of chapter Sorry, of section 24.04 [17:07] uh, airport board powers and duties. Do [17:09] I have a motion? [17:10] >> So moved. [17:11] >> Second. [17:11] >> The motion and the second. We talked [17:13] about this at the August 3rd work [17:14] session. What we're What we're proposing [17:17] here [17:18] what an admin is proposing is is that we [17:21] remove the [17:23] subpart four from this particular [17:26] ordinance [17:27] to put us in a position where we're [17:29] actually do the code section is then [17:31] consistent with what our actual practice [17:33] is. [17:35] Um [17:37] I have a motion and a second on this [17:39] already. [17:40] Um [17:40] Is there [17:41] further discussion on on this topic? [17:47] Hearing none, this will be a roll call [17:49] vote then. [17:49] >> O'Laughlin [17:50] >> Yes. [17:51] >> Appleby [17:51] >> Yes. [17:52] >> Weber [17:52] >> Yes. [17:53] >> Anna [17:54] >> Yes. [17:54] >> Moore [17:55] >> Yes. [17:55] >> Prichard [17:56] >> Yes. [17:57] >> Okay, [17:58] passes six to zero. Again, would anybody [18:01] then uh [18:02] >> I I would make a motion to [18:06] do third and final reading. [18:07] >> Second. [18:11] » Okay, this would require all six of you [18:13] to um [18:14] Well, hold [18:15] >> So, the motion that they made was to do [18:16] the third and final reading. The motion [18:17] needs to be suspended. [18:18] >> And and suspend the second and and do [18:20] the third and final reading. [18:22] >> They have to be two separate things. So, [18:23] you have to first suspend the statutory [18:25] rule [18:26] >> we'll first we'll first [18:27] >> Okay, so then so the motion that's in [18:29] front of you is to um [18:31] >> [snorts] [18:32] >> suspend the statutory rule requiring [18:35] that an ordinance be considered and [18:36] voted on for passage at two council [18:38] meetings prior to the meeting in which [18:39] it's finally passed. So, I have a motion [18:42] and a second with regard to that. [18:44] Um, this would because [18:46] Council member Maynor's not here, it [18:47] would take all six of you in order to do [18:49] that. So, this is a roll call vote. [18:51] >> Appleby, no. Weber [18:53] >> Yes. [18:54] >> Anna [18:54] >> Yes. [18:55] >> Moore [18:55] >> Yes. [18:56] >> Prichard [18:56] >> Yes. [18:57] >> O'Laughlin [18:58] >> Yes. [18:58] >> Okay, so that fails. [19:00] Um, [19:01] move to item number 15 which is a first [19:04] reading of an ordinance. [19:07] This is the right one. [19:08] >> Yep, it's the code. [19:09] >> Um [19:10] >> Chapter 150 [19:10] >> Okay, so I need a I need a motion to [19:12] approve the first reading of an [19:13] ordinance amending the provisions to [19:15] chapter 155 International Building Code. [19:19] >> So moved. [19:19] >> Second. [19:20] >> I have a motion and a second. Um we [19:22] talked about this at the work session. [19:24] Um as everybody is probably aware, um [19:32] the code sections [19:33] all of the next [19:35] I don't know, approximately 10 different [19:39] ordin- uh ordinances all deal with with [19:41] issues that [19:43] were not in compliance with the our our [19:46] ordinances are different than what the [19:49] um [19:51] International Building Code or the [19:53] Uniform Planning Plumbing Code or the [19:55] International Mechanical Code. Um so in [19:59] order to keep our rating with the city [20:01] that we have, [20:03] um we need to amend amends our [20:07] ordinances so that it's consistent with [20:09] what [20:09] those those require. [20:11] >> So we currently have version 2018 of all [20:13] of these codes and we need to upgrade [20:15] those update those to version 20 [20:17] >> 2024. [20:18] >> Thank you, Matt. I couldn't remember if [20:19] it was one or four that we went to. [20:21] 24 um in order to keep our rating with the Insurance Services [20:26] um group. The the rating that we [20:28] previously had was a class four and they [20:31] would have derated us to a class nine if [20:33] we did not do this. [20:34] >> Mhm. [20:35] >> So we want to try to, you know, keep our [20:37] citizens cost down as much as we can by [20:39] making sure that their insurance rates [20:40] stay as low as they can. This is one way [20:42] that we can facilitate that. [20:44] >> And and we do need to do all these one [20:46] at a time? [20:46] >> We need to do these [20:47] >> There's no way we can lump them [20:48] together. [20:49] >> They're all different chapters of the [20:49] code, so they all have to be [20:51] >> And it's something that's pretty much [20:52] mandatory we need to do to keep our [20:54] rating, as you said, so [20:56] >> And we also had during the work session [20:57] there was discussion about um fence [20:59] permits and then the 10-ft setback [21:02] requirement for water discharges. The [21:03] fence permits we put we as the council [21:05] asked us to do during the work session, [21:07] that has been put back in, so fences [21:08] will still be permitted the same as they [21:10] are today. [21:11] And then the 10-back 10-ft setback [21:12] required for water discharges, we've [21:14] added excluding roof drainage from that. [21:16] So, if it's a gutter, for example, that doesn't apply to that. [21:20] >> And if there's other questions regarding [21:21] each one of these as we go along, we can [21:23] certainly discuss that. But is there [21:24] discussion with regard to the um [21:27] uh the amending with regard to the [21:29] international building code. [21:32] If there's no discussion regarding that, [21:34] this will be a roll [21:35] >> call vote. [21:35] >> Hannah [21:36] >> Yes. [21:37] >> Moore [21:38] >> Yes. [21:39] >> Fursider [21:40] >> Yes. [21:41] >> O'Laughlin [21:42] >> Yes. [21:42] >> Appleby [21:43] >> Yes. [21:43] >> Weber [21:44] >> Yes. [21:44] >> That passes 6-0. Now, is there anybody [21:47] that would object to suspending the [21:48] statutory rule to allow this to be [21:50] considered and voted on for passage [21:52] um [21:53] at the present time without waiting for [21:55] the two council meetings? [21:56] >> I would object. [21:57] >> You Okay, so there's no point in doing [21:59] that then. Um would that would that [22:01] Rather than having to ask this question [22:02] each time, will your answer be the same [22:04] for [22:05] >> always be the answer. [22:05] >> Okay, very good. Thank you. [22:07] Okay, so that that's passed 6-0. We next [22:10] move to item number 16, which [22:11] >> I didn't say always. There'd be an [22:12] exception if there was some sense of [22:14] urgency for a need, but there's not. [22:16] >> Understood. [22:18] Okay, item number 16, a motion to [22:21] approve the first reading of an [22:22] ordinance amending the provisions to [22:23] chapter 156 of the uniform plumbing [22:26] code. [22:27] >> So moved. [22:28] >> Second. [22:29] >> The motion and a second. Is there [22:30] discussion regarding this particular [22:32] code section? [22:34] Hearing none, this will be a roll call [22:35] vote also. [22:36] >> O'Laughlin [22:37] >> Yes. [22:37] >> Appleby [22:38] >> Yes. [22:39] >> Weber [22:39] >> Yes. [22:40] >> Hannah [22:40] >> Yes. [22:41] >> Moore [22:41] >> Yes. [22:42] >> Fursider [22:43] >> Yay. [22:43] >> That also passes 6-0. Next we move to [22:45] item number 17. This is a motion to [22:48] approve the first reading of an [22:49] ordinance amending provisions to chapter [22:51] 157 international mechanical code. [22:54] >> So moved. [22:56] >> Second. [22:56] >> The motion and a second. Anybody have [22:58] any further discussion regarding this [22:59] particular code section? [23:01] Hearing none, this would also be a roll [23:02] call vote. [23:03] >> Hannah [23:04] >> Yes. [23:05] >> Moore [23:05] >> Yes. [23:06] >> Presider [23:07] >> Yes. [23:07] >> Laughlin [23:08] >> Yes. [23:08] >> Applebee [23:09] >> Yes. [23:09] >> Weber [23:10] >> Yes. [23:10] >> It also passes 6-0. Next [23:12] >> Question, Mayor. [23:13] >> Yes. [23:14] >> Um in regards to this, it was brought [23:16] up, you know, that [23:18] since nothing is urgent, my question I [23:21] would have [23:23] is [23:25] has our insurance company allowed us [23:27] like a 60-day grace, a 30- or 60-day [23:29] grace window or not because if they have [23:32] not allowed us that, then it is urgent. [23:34] >> From the March 24th or the March 24th [23:37] letter that they sent us, they told us [23:38] they would give us up to 6 months if we [23:40] were working through the red through the [23:41] process. [23:41] >> Okay. [23:42] >> They asked us for an update, I want to [23:44] say at the beginning of July, [23:46] roughly around there, and I emailed them [23:48] back with the schedule of what it would [23:49] take if it went through [clears throat] [23:50] all three readings at three consecutive [23:52] council meetings, and we got no response [23:54] back to that. So, I'm going to assume [23:55] that no response is acceptance and that [23:57] they're okay with that. [23:58] >> Okay, because I mean that could make a [24:00] difference on voting. [24:01] >> It could, yes, but I think you're fine [24:03] if you if the council goes that way. [24:05] It's [24:05] >> So, if this was March [24:06] >> If this was March that the that the [24:08] letter came and gave us 6 months, [24:10] September would be up. So, [24:11] >> Which for the beginning of September [24:12] would be the third and final reading. [24:13] >> Got you. Okay, sounds good. [24:15] Okay, let's move to item number [24:17] >> We're going to make it by about 7 days, [24:18] I think, by the time that's done. [24:20] >> Okay. Um I'm on number 18. Number 18, um [24:24] motion to [24:25] first reading of an ordinance amending [24:26] the provisions to chapter 158 of the [24:29] International Fuel Gas Code. [24:31] >> So moved. Second. [24:32] >> Have a motion and a second. Is there [24:33] further discussion regarding this? [24:35] Hearing none, that's a roll call vote. [24:37] >> Laughlin [24:37] >> Yes. [24:38] >> Applebee [24:39] >> Yes. [24:39] >> Weber [24:40] >> Yes. [24:40] >> Hannah [24:41] >> Yes. [24:41] >> Moore [24:42] >> Yes. [24:42] >> Presider [24:43] >> Yes. [24:43] >> It also passes 6-0. Next, we'll move to [24:46] item number 19. Um I need a motion to [24:48] approve the first reading of an [24:49] ordinance amending provisions of chapter [24:51] 159 of the International Fire Code. [24:55] >> So moved. [24:56] >> Second. [24:56] >> Have a motion and a second. Any [24:57] discussion with regard to this? Hearing [24:59] none, this will be a roll call vote [25:00] also. [25:02] >> Anna? [25:03] >> Yes. [25:03] >> Moore? [25:04] >> Yes. [25:04] >> Presider? [25:05] >> Yes. [25:05] >> O'Laughlin? [25:06] >> Yes. [25:07] >> Appleby? [25:07] >> Yes. [25:07] >> Weber? [25:08] >> Yes. [25:08] >> It also passes 6-0. Next we move to item [25:10] number 20. [25:12] Need a motion to approve the first [25:13] reading of an ordinance amending the [25:14] provisions of chapter 161 [25:17] of the National Electric Code. [25:19] >> So moved. [25:19] >> Second. [25:20] >> Have a motion and a second. Any [25:21] discussion regarding this? Hearing none, [25:23] roll roll call vote, please. [25:25] >> O'Laughlin? [25:25] >> Yes. [25:26] >> Appleby? [25:26] >> Yes. [25:27] >> Weber? [25:28] >> Yes. [25:28] >> Anna? [25:28] >> Yes. [25:29] >> Moore? [25:30] >> Yes. [25:30] >> Presider? [25:31] >> Yes. [25:31] >> It also passes 6-0. Next we move to item [25:33] number 21. Need a motion to approve the [25:36] first reading of an ordinance amending [25:37] the provisions to chapter 160 [25:41] 162 of the International Residential [25:44] Code. [25:45] >> So moved. [25:46] >> Second. [25:46] >> Have a motion and a second. Is there any [25:48] discussion regarding this? Hearing none, [25:50] this will be a roll call vote. [25:51] >> Anna? [25:52] >> Yes. [25:52] >> Moore? [25:53] >> Yes. [25:53] >> Presider? [25:54] >> Yes. [25:54] >> O'Laughlin? [25:55] >> Yes. [25:55] >> Appleby? [25:56] >> Yes. [25:56] >> Weber? [25:57] >> Yes. [25:57] >> It passes 6-0 also. [25:59] Next we move to item number 22. This is [26:02] a motion to approve the first reading of [26:04] an ordinance amending the provisions to [26:05] chapter 163 of the International [26:07] Property Maintenance Code. [26:09] >> So moved. [26:10] >> Second. [26:11] >> Have a motion and a second. If there's [26:13] no Is there any further discussion? If [26:15] none, this is a roll call vote. [26:18] >> O'Laughlin? [26:18] >> Yes. [26:19] >> Appleby? [26:20] >> Yes. [26:20] >> Weber? [26:21] >> Yes. [26:21] >> Anna? [26:22] >> Yes. [26:22] >> Moore? [26:23] >> Yes. [26:23] >> Presider? [26:24] >> Yes. [26:24] >> It also passes 6-0. [26:26] Next we move to item number 23. [26:29] I need a motion to approve a first [26:31] reading of an ordinance [26:33] amending the provisions of chapter 164 [26:35] of the International Existing Building [26:37] Code. [26:38] >> So moved. [26:38] >> Second. [26:39] >> Have a motion and a second. If there's [26:40] any no further discussion, this will be [26:42] a roll call vote also. [26:44] >> Anna? [26:44] >> Yes. [26:45] >> Moore? [26:45] >> Yes. [26:46] >> Presider? [26:46] >> Yes. [26:47] >> O'Laughlin? [26:47] >> Yes. [26:48] >> Appleby? [26:48] >> Yes. [26:49] >> Weber? [26:49] >> Yes. [26:50] >> It also passes 6-0. Moved item number 24 [26:54] motion to approve the first reading of [26:56] an ordinance amending the provisions to [26:58] chapter 165 of the International Energy [27:00] Conservation Code. [27:02] >> So moved. [27:03] >> Second. [27:04] >> The motion is second. If there's no [27:05] further discussion, we'll move to a roll [27:06] call vote. [27:07] >> O'Loughlin [27:08] >> Yes. [27:08] >> Appleby [27:09] >> Yes. [27:09] >> Weber [27:10] >> Yes. [27:11] >> Yianna [27:11] >> Yes. [27:12] >> Moore [27:12] >> Yes. [27:13] >> Presider [27:13] >> Yes. [27:14] >> Also passes 6-0. Moved item number 20 [27:17] five. I need a motion to approve in the [27:19] first reading of an ordinance amending [27:21] the provisions to chapter 1 66 of the [27:24] International Swimming Pool and Spa [27:25] Code. [27:26] >> So moved. [27:27] >> Second. [27:28] >> The motion I have a motion and a second. [27:30] If there's no further discussion, this [27:31] would also be a roll call vote. [27:33] >> Yianna [27:33] >> Yes. [27:34] >> Moore [27:34] >> Yes. [27:35] >> Presider [27:35] >> Yes. [27:36] >> O'Loughlin [27:36] >> Yes. [27:37] >> Appleby [27:37] >> Yes. [27:38] >> Weber [27:38] >> Yes. [27:39] >> That also passes 6-0. Next we move to [27:42] item number 26. [27:45] Pursuant to the agenda, I'll now convene [27:47] a public hearing on the proposal to [27:49] enter into a sewer revenue loan and [27:51] disbursement agreement. [27:54] >> So moved. [27:55] >> We're we're in we're now in public [28:00] comment. Public public hearing. Sorry, [28:02] public hearing. [28:03] >> I did not receive any comments on this. [28:07] >> Okay, since there's no further comments [28:09] in writing or or verbally with regard to [28:11] this, we'll move forward with um [28:15] closing the public hearing at this time. [28:18] >> So moved. [28:19] >> So next we move to item number 27. [28:22] This is a motion to approve and [28:24] authorize the mayor to sign a resolution [28:27] taking additional action on the proposal [28:29] to enter into the sewer revenue loan and [28:31] disbursement agreement. Do need a [28:33] motion. [28:34] >> So moved. [28:34] >> Second. [28:35] >> I have a motion and a second. [28:37] Further discussion with regard to this? [28:40] is one of the steps necessary with [28:41] regard to the funding of the [28:44] wastewater treatment plant. [28:46] Hearing none, this would be a roll call [28:48] vote. [28:48] >> Sorry, what are you on? [28:50] >> I am on item number 27. [28:52] >> 27. [28:52] >> Okay. [28:56] » [clears throat] [28:56] >> This is a roll call vote. [28:58] >> O'Laughlin? [28:58] >> Yes. [28:59] >> Appleby? [29:00] >> No. [29:00] >> Weber? [29:01] >> Yes. [29:01] >> Anna? [29:02] >> Yes. [29:03] >> Moore? [29:03] >> Yes. [29:04] >> Presider? [29:05] >> Yes. [29:05] >> That passes 5-1. [29:07] Um, next we move to resolutions, um, [29:09] item number 28. [29:10] I need a motion to approve and authorize [29:12] the mayor to sign a resolution approving [29:15] a standardized extra duty police [29:17] services agreement template and [29:19] authorizing the city manager to execute [29:21] these agreements as needed. [29:23] >> So moved. [29:23] >> Second. [29:25] >> Okay, we talked about this at the August [29:26] 3rd work session and, um, [29:29] actually we had officer Bowes at the [29:31] time come up and discuss it as well. [29:33] Um, does anybody have any [29:35] um further discussion with regard [29:39] to this? [29:41] Hearing none, this will be a roll call [29:42] vote. [29:43] >> Appleby? [29:44] >> Yes. [29:45] >> Weber? [29:45] >> Yes. [29:46] >> Anna? [29:46] >> Yes. [29:47] >> Moore? [29:47] >> Yes. [29:48] >> Presider? [29:49] >> Yes. [29:49] >> O'Laughlin? [29:50] >> Yes. [29:51] That passes 6-0. [29:53] Um, next to move to item number 29. [29:57] Um, I need a motion to authorize the [29:59] mayor to sign a resolution [30:01] establishing a time and place for a [30:03] public hearing on August the 24th of [30:05] 2026 at 5:30 p.m. for the consideration [30:08] of a rezoning request [30:10] from R2 residential to C1 commercial [30:12] within the city of Independence, [30:14] Buchanan County, Iowa. [30:15] >> So moved. [30:17] >> Second. [30:17] >> I have a motion and a second. We talked [30:18] about this, no, we didn't talk about [30:20] this. This, um, was [30:23] the this came before the planning and [30:24] zoning hearing [30:26] on August the 4th by by a vote of [30:28] 5-nothing they recommended to the [30:31] Tuesday, uh [30:32] council that this that they consider [30:33] this, but, um [30:35] this the process here is, um, we we have [30:37] to set a public hearing first before we [30:39] can have further discussion or further [30:41] action taken upon it. [30:42] So, we've got the date um, that. Is [30:44] there further discussion with regard to [30:46] the setting of the date for a public [30:47] hearing? [30:48] >> Why are we doing [30:49] >> for the senior center property. [30:51] >> Yeah, why are we doing this for this [30:51] county though? [30:53] >> It's not county. The city It's in the [30:54] city limits. [30:55] >> I know. [30:55] >> So, our zoning applies to it. The county [30:57] has requested it because they want to do [30:59] something different with the side edge. [31:00] And in order to do that, they need to [31:02] meet this this this zoning district [31:04] meets better works better for them. [31:07] And it fits within their being that it's [31:08] a senior center and a commercial [31:10] somewhat of a commercial use. [31:12] So, we'll we'll have further discussion [31:14] on this once we complete the public [31:16] hearing itself. [31:18] Is there a [31:19] Do I have a motion and a second? This [31:21] will be a roll call vote then. [31:22] >> Weber? [31:23] >> Yes. [31:23] >> Hannah? [31:24] >> Yes. [31:24] >> Moore? [31:25] >> Yes. [31:25] >> Crusader? [31:26] >> Yes. [31:27] >> O'Laughlin? [31:27] >> Yes. [31:28] >> Appleby? [31:28] >> Yes. [31:29] >> It passes 6-0. Next, we move to item [31:31] number 30. [31:32] I need a motion to approve and authorize [31:34] the mayor to sign a resolution approving [31:36] the lot combination agreement and to add [31:38] the recording fees to the previously [31:40] approved claims listing. [31:42] >> So moved. [31:43] >> Second. [31:44] >> Okay, again, this is something that went [31:46] before planning and zoning on August the [31:47] 4th. It's a Planning and Zoning voted [31:50] 5-0 to [31:51] request that um [31:53] council consider this and approve it. [31:56] Um [32:00] Yeah, go ahead, Matt. [32:01] >> So, this is a combination of two pieces [32:03] of property that the county owns. [32:04] There's a on the [32:06] northeast corner of the senior center, [32:08] there's a wing that goes there by to the [32:10] east that actually crosses a lot line [32:12] and goes onto a separate piece of [32:13] property. So, this combination agreement [32:15] brings both of them together and makes [32:17] it one piece of property so that the [32:19] so that they're in compliance with our requirements. [32:24] >> Further discussion regarding that. [32:27] Hearing none, this is a roll call vote. [32:29] >> Hannah? [32:30] >> Yes. [32:31] >> Moore? [32:31] >> Yes. [32:32] >> Crusader? [32:32] >> Yes. [32:33] >> O'Laughlin? [32:34] >> Yes. [32:34] >> Appleby? [32:35] >> Yes. [32:35] >> Weber? [32:36] >> Yes. [32:36] >> And that passes 6-0. [32:38] I'm actually moving to item number 31. I [32:40] need a motion to approve and authorize [32:42] the mayor sign a resolution that [32:44] approves the plat of survey. [32:47] >> So moved. [32:48] >> Second. [32:49] >> I have a motion and a second. Again, [32:50] this is something that planning and [32:51] zoning on August 4th voted 5-0 to [32:54] recommend it um [32:55] to be sent to council council for [32:57] approval. [32:58] Um William Downs owns a piece of [33:02] property. [33:04] Um [33:06] and there's a small portion of the [33:08] neighboring property which [33:11] according to the [33:12] plat of survey is [33:15] um not on his property even though he's [33:17] been taking care of it. Is that correct? [33:19] >> I can give you that. [33:20] >> Yes, this is a little piece. It's It's a [33:22] row of shrubs that he's been maintaining [33:25] for the last 20 years and they [33:27] due to another situation with the fence [33:29] going up on there [33:30] his neighbors they did a plat of they [33:32] had a survey done found out that that [33:35] piece that he thought was his all this [33:36] time was not his. [33:38] So, he had he hired Crawford to actually [33:41] do the plat of survey have in front of [33:43] you. It will create a a new parcel. And [33:47] then it just straightens out who owns [33:49] what. [33:50] >> And then and the neighbor is in favor of [33:52] this. [33:52] >> Miss McGraw she she [33:55] agreed to sell him this new parcel. [33:58] Um it was approved by planning and [33:59] zoning contingent on this being approved [34:02] and the deed being transferred to Mr. [34:04] Downs. [34:05] >> And also on the lot combination [34:07] agreement bringing them back together. [34:08] >> Yes, and also he also [34:11] which you don't have tonight in your [34:12] packets because you can't have but there [34:14] is a lot combination already in place [34:17] that's went through planning and zoning [34:19] under those contingencies. So, once we [34:21] have the deed in place and Mr. Downs [34:23] owns that property then we'll bring the [34:25] lot combination agreement to you all to [34:28] >> to finalize it. [34:29] >> Yep. [34:31] >> Further discussion. [34:33] >> Thanks, Pat. [34:34] >> Hearing none, this will be a roll call [34:35] vote. [34:35] >> Moore? [34:36] >> Yes. [34:37] >> Prichard? [34:38] >> Yes. [34:38] >> O'Laughlin? [34:39] >> Yes. [34:39] >> Appleby? [34:40] >> Yes. [34:40] >> Weber? [34:41] >> Yes. [34:41] >> Anna? [34:42] >> Yes. [34:43] >> This passes 6-0. Next, we'll move to [34:45] item number 32. I'll need a motion to [34:47] approve and authorize the mayor to sign [34:49] a resolution preliminarily approving a [34:51] pre-annexation agreement and application [34:54] for voluntary annexation, preliminarily [34:56] approving the annexation of the city and [34:59] the Tempest parcels and setting the [35:00] public hearing for October 12th, 2026 at [35:03] 5:30 p.m. Need a motion first. [35:08] >> This is just set the hearing on it? [35:09] >> Yeah, well, the the the way that the the [35:11] It's a combination of things, but it [35:14] really what this resolution does is it [35:15] tells the staff to continue moving [35:17] forward with the process. And then it [35:18] establishes a public hearing. There are [35:20] notices that need to happen. [35:22] Consultations with Buchanan County and [35:23] the school district need to take place. [35:25] There's several different entities that [35:26] need to be notified about it, and then [35:28] there's a public hearing that has to be [35:29] held all before the city council can [35:30] make a final decision on whether or not [35:32] to annex this property. [35:34] So, you're not voting to annex the [35:35] property. All you're doing is voting to [35:37] allow the process to continue and and [35:40] allow the the public [35:41] >> To move forward. [35:42] >> To continue the process, right? [35:44] >> With a With a yay vote on this, will we [35:46] be be voting to accept the [35:49] pre-annexation agreement? [35:50] >> No. [35:50] >> Okay. [35:51] >> You'd be You'd be voting to Well, you'd [35:53] be voting to preliminarily approve it [35:56] pending the other pending further [35:57] discussion and a public hearing. [35:59] >> My suggestion would be if there's [36:00] modifications you'd like to make to the [36:01] pre-annexation agreement, now is the [36:03] time to discuss those. [36:04] >> I would say that the uh [36:06] cattle, goats [36:08] pasturing [36:09] is is out. I mean, they want to be in [36:11] the city limits. [36:11] >> One second. One second, Mike. [36:13] >> Do I have it Did I get a motion? [36:14] >> I don't have a motion or [36:15] >> I don't think a motion [36:16] >> had a motion [36:16] >> Was there a second, yeah? [36:17] >> I I will I will make the motion to get [36:19] the ball rolling for discussion. [36:21] >> Second. [36:22] >> Okay, we've got a motion and a second. [36:23] Go ahead, Mike, now. [36:25] >> I would like to see uh [36:27] the pasturing of cattle and goats out of [36:29] there since they want to be within the [36:32] city limits and our by code, that's not [36:34] allowed. [36:37] » I agree with Mike and I think that in [36:38] addition to what Mike said, I think that [36:40] there should be an annual request as all [36:42] of the residents do with anything in the [36:43] city as far as bow hunting is concerned. [36:45] >> Yeah. [36:46] >> Go ahead. I This is non [36:48] um [36:49] voluntary. It's involuntary as part of [36:51] it. So, we shouldn't be labeling it as a [36:54] as one bird. [36:55] >> The city attorney is the one who drafted [36:57] these documents and this is a voluntary [36:59] annexation with a 20 with a less than [37:01] 20% involuntary annexation. [37:03] >> So, it's voluntary then. [37:05] >> That is not an involuntary annexation. [37:06] under state [37:08] code is where the entire property is [37:10] involuntary. [37:11] >> Okay. So, under that is not [37:13] >> Semantics a little bit [37:14] >> So, the [37:16] developer for this area is also the [37:18] person who's writing this up for this [37:20] area. [37:20] >> No. No, Doug Doug is the one who wrote [37:22] it up, our city attorney. [37:24] >> Is the city [37:24] >> Zanetti is the developer who is also [37:26] reviewing it on the behalf of his you [37:29] know, on on behalf of his [37:30] >> And then it's also where mayor of her [37:33] town works is the one that wants to [37:34] develop. [37:35] >> I'm sorry? [37:36] >> Is that where you work? Is where he [37:37] wants the person that owns this wants to [37:39] develop it? [37:40] >> I do not I I I from time to time I will [37:43] handle the project for Robert Zanetti. [37:45] I'm not an employee of Robert Zanetti [37:47] and I'm not [37:48] I'm I'm not handling this and I don't [37:49] I'm not handling anything about this on his behalf or even on behalf of the [37:53] city. I'm just presenting it to him. [37:56] >> You may I make a comment on that, mayor? [37:58] >> Yep. [37:59] >> And the mayor has no yes or no vote [38:02] whatsoever. So, therefore [38:05] it there is no conflict of interest [38:07] because he has no voting power. [38:09] >> He's a mayor. [38:09] >> No, he's he's he's no conflict at at [38:12] all. Matt Matt's handling this. He just [38:14] has to bring it up. [38:16] But he there he has no voting power [38:18] whatsoever. So, therefore there is no [38:19] conflict. And if there was a conflict [38:22] and he had voting power, then that [38:24] person would just remove themselves and [38:26] excuse themselves. They would abstain. [38:28] They would abstain from voting. [38:30] >> And I can't abstain from something that [38:31] I don't have a vote. [38:32] >> This is phase one of forcing him to [38:35] >> I don't think we should move forward [38:36] with this. This guy was not in the city [38:38] limits when this was developed around [38:40] him. And he did a we did him wrong many [38:43] years ago. [38:44] Uh so, we [38:45] >> How did we do that? [38:47] >> When they developed this area, they [38:48] actually [38:50] took the water well away from him, his [38:52] own property. So, for that reason, we [38:54] actually approved him to have water [38:56] unlimited for life as a restitution. [38:59] Now, this is just a gentleman's [39:01] agreement. Now, because he's part of our [39:03] city, he's getting annexed in against [39:05] his will. [39:06] So, he did us a favor not suing us years [39:09] ago. I think it's time to return the [39:11] favor and not do this to him. He doesn't [39:13] want to be part of the city. He didn't [39:15] ask to have it developed around him. He [39:16] said, "Okay, you want to do your thing [39:18] and develop over here. Just leave me out [39:20] of it." Then that didn't turn out that [39:22] way. Now, he's getting surrounded by us, [39:24] and now we're going to make his property [39:26] part of our city. [39:28] >> He's 87 years old, and he doesn't want [39:29] to be annexed in. [39:30] >> It's not right. He did us a favor not [39:32] suing our city, and now we need to [39:33] return the favor. [39:35] >> Can isn't there something Matt where you [39:38] can't have an island? [39:39] >> City development board will not approve [39:41] an annexation that creates an island. [39:43] So, if you do not want to move forward [39:45] with this because Mr. Teppas's property [39:47] will be part of that, then that also [39:49] means that Mr. Heddy's property will not [39:51] be annexed into the city and cannot be [39:53] annexed into the city. [39:57] » And if he's going [39:57] >> could have very well have gone against [39:59] our city, and he got a gentleman's [40:01] agreement just to not do us wrong. [40:03] >> Okay, you [40:03] >> We need to return the favor. That's the [40:05] answer. [40:06] >> You're repeating yourself, so let's [40:08] >> I can. [40:09] >> You can You can, but I can also call you [40:11] out of order as well. [40:13] You know, I have no problem with you [40:15] speaking. I have no problem with you [40:16] speaking. Just don't keep repeating [40:18] yourself over and over and over. We got [40:20] the We got the message. [40:21] >> I'll remember that. [40:22] >> I'll remember too. [40:23] >> Okay. [40:24] >> Trust me. [40:28] Um [40:29] Mike, in answer to your to your thing, [40:32] um [40:33] the reason that that it's set up the way [40:35] that it's set up, I understand, okay? [40:38] I'm I'm just trying to explain it to you [40:39] the reason why it's in the annexation [40:43] agreement is because they're not going [40:45] to be able to do all of this at one [40:47] time. [40:48] So, if you take the part of it that's [40:50] farthest away that's currently That's [40:52] the current use for it. So, you're not changing the use. The current [40:55] use has those things in it. There's [40:58] nothing that you're adding You're giving [40:59] that that they don't already have while [41:01] they're in the county. [41:03] But [41:04] >> if they're annexing to the city, they're no longer A1. [41:08] >> I understand that, but [41:09] >> They They will come in as A1. [41:11] >> They'll come in, but they have They have [41:12] to accept the [41:13] >> Uh that was part of the pre-annexation [41:15] agreement was that the zoning applied [41:16] would be A1 when they come into the [41:18] city, and then at some point in the near [41:20] future when he wants to develop, he [41:21] would have to come in and rezone [41:22] whichever piece he's developing. And [41:24] then that piece would no longer be [41:25] allowed to have animals or [41:27] >> And And he's erecting on it without [41:29] permission. [41:29] >> I would move that we don't allow the A1 [41:32] uh [41:33] status. [41:34] >> There's a motion and a second on the [41:35] table right now that would need to be [41:37] voted on, and then if somebody else [41:38] would like to make a subsequent motion [41:40] saying they want to make modifications [41:41] to the pre-annexation agreement, you [41:43] could do that. [41:44] >> The The reason why [41:46] um the the group that's that's asking to [41:49] be annexed in wants to do it the way [41:50] that they're they're they're proposing [41:52] it is because because it's not going to [41:54] happen for several years. They want to [41:57] continue to get the the income that they [41:59] have from the rental of of that for the use of by [42:04] the people that own the animals. [42:05] >> Okay. [42:06] >> So, if But [42:07] >> with the limited size of that pasture, [42:09] and I've [42:10] rented pasture you in the past. [42:13] There's not that much income from that. [42:15] >> Well, that was his rationale for why he wanted [42:18] it in there. [42:19] >> I would respectfully disagree and [42:22] decline. [42:23] >> Okay, I understand. I'm just I wanted [42:25] you to have the facts. That's all. [42:26] >> Well, I knew the impetus behind it. [42:30] >> Okay. [42:31] >> Did you have something you want to read? [42:33] >> Uh [42:34] No, I was just thinking it might be [42:36] a little bit more complicated because of [42:38] the zoning side of things. [42:40] There's any any uh land that's annexed [42:43] then must become A1. So, to your point, [42:45] I don't think you could just [42:47] have a have a motion [42:49] have a vote. [42:50] >> The city city attorney would disagree [42:51] with you. He has stated that when you do [42:53] a pre-annexation agreement, you can [42:54] specify what level of zoning you would [42:56] like to have. As long as the city [42:58] council agrees to that, it can come in [42:59] as a different zoning district. [43:00] >> Well, perfectly. So, I'm just coming up [43:02] >> But it's But this is coming in as A1, [43:04] which is what a regular annexation would [43:06] do anyway without that being in the [43:07] pre-annexation agreement. [43:08] >> Okay. [43:09] >> Why would [43:10] I don't understand. Why would [43:12] if he wants to make it residential, why [43:14] would it come in as A1 and not R? [43:17] >> Because it would become residential once [43:19] he was ready to build. [43:21] He would only be agricultural until such [43:22] time as he's ready to build. He would [43:24] only be the residential [43:24] >> get all the benefits of the residential [43:27] classification [43:29] while still having the ag designation. [43:31] >> So, he's got two So, he's got two [43:33] distinct [43:33] >> two parcels [43:34] >> parcels. One of the parcels he's going [43:35] to be work on immediately with the [43:37] That'll be That would be residential. [43:39] So, that parcel would be zoned resident [43:42] the R1. [43:43] >> He would likely take the 40 acres that [43:44] were that's being part of this [43:45] discussion and split that. [43:48] Part of it that would be annexed and [43:49] part of it would or not annexed part of [43:50] it would be rezoned at that time. And [43:53] also preliminary plat for development, [43:54] all of those different things that have [43:56] to occur. This is just the first step in [43:58] the process. And this again really is [44:00] just telling the the staff whether you [44:02] want us to continue moving forward with [44:03] this or not. [44:05] Cuz there's a lot more steps to this. [44:07] >> John, do you have something to read? [44:09] >> No, here. [44:11] >> Didn't you have a question for me [44:12] earlier? [44:13] For John or for what? [44:15] >> No, John he's already [44:17] >> He He wanted to talk when he was up [44:19] earlier. [44:21] >> Mike, I have a comment. You had asked [44:22] you had had a question. [44:23] >> just asked if he he had something he was [44:25] possibly going to read, but [44:26] >> He did [44:27] >> So did [44:28] >> What I said earlier. [44:30] >> Okay. [44:31] so is there further discussion [44:33] with regard to the motion that's [44:34] pending? [44:34] >> Yeah. [44:35] Um in in regards to the animal part I I [44:38] have a [44:39] I have mixed emotion on this as far as [44:41] the animal part. If if it goes forward [44:44] and gets annexed in [44:47] as A1 agricultural [44:50] however [44:51] once this [44:53] once if that happens nothing can be [44:55] built as far as residential goes on [44:58] there [44:59] until it becomes residential zoning. And [45:02] at that time then the animal part would [45:03] fall out because then you would not have [45:06] residential. However, I see Mike's [45:09] point and Mr. Passaro's point [45:11] on allowing animals within city limits. [45:15] But this is dealing with [45:17] it's not like it's already in the city [45:19] limits at this time. So it's kind of a a [45:22] gray area. [45:23] >> Um realistically it is within the city [45:25] limits. It's just not zoned that way. [45:27] >> It Yeah, it's not zoned that way and but [45:30] the city gets no money off of it at this time. We don't get any money out [45:34] of that. [45:34] >> The county does cuz it's [45:35] >> The county does not the city. [45:37] >> in the city limits, right? [45:37] >> So it's so it is not it is not in the [45:39] city limits at this time. [45:42] >> surrounded by the city limits. [45:43] >> So we're taking taxes from the county. [45:47] >> I'm sorry. [45:48] >> We're taking taxes from the county cuz [45:49] right now he's paying taxes to the [45:50] county and [45:51] >> He will still pay taxes to the county. [45:53] It'll just be a different rate. [45:57] » Cuz he would pay it [45:57] >> So I'm an urban rate [45:59] >> It's kind of a gray area right now for [46:01] me on that. [46:03] >> When you guys said that there was an [46:04] intention the intention I completely [46:05] understand you don't just develop the [46:06] entire thing. There's two parcels in [46:08] question is the east parcel or the west [46:10] parcel that would be [46:11] >> The eastern parcel is the one that we're [46:12] talking about tonight as part of the [46:14] annexation. [46:14] >> And with that has it been indicated that [46:18] So that portion there would be the first [46:19] to be developed as well. [46:21] >> A portion of it of some sort. We don't [46:22] have That's That's a question Mr. Eddy [46:24] would have to answer as far as what it [46:26] is he wants to develop of that piece. [46:28] >> So would that create an island as well? [46:31] >> No. Not if it's annexed. If you annex [46:34] the entire 40 acres in, no. Because then [46:36] it can still remain agricultural because [46:38] we're we're getting two things [46:39] convoluted here. Annexation is one [46:41] thing, zoning is another thing. [46:42] >> Right. [46:43] >> So the annexation just brings it into [46:45] the city. Then the zoning has to come [46:47] into play whenever he decides which [46:49] property or how much of the property he [46:50] wants to develop. He could do 5 acres of [46:52] it, he could do all 40. It's just up to [46:54] him on what he decides he wants to [46:55] develop. [46:56] >> And at that time then he has to come to [46:58] the city council for getting the zoning [47:00] change. [47:01] >> Right. And a preliminary plat approval [47:03] and all [47:03] >> Preliminary plat approval and all that [47:05] other stuff that takes [47:07] a year or so to get all that [47:08] accomplished. [47:09] >> All of those different development pieces, yes. [47:12] >> So the eastern 40 acres would are what [47:15] we're [47:16] >> That's what's in this annexation this [47:17] evening, yes. [47:18] >> So what about the western part then [47:19] where the homestead is? [47:21] And the eastern part That would remain [47:23] in county? [47:23] >> The eastern part is where the homestead [47:25] is at. The western part is the empty [47:26] field. [47:27] >> Excuse me, yeah. [47:27] >> Yeah, the western part would remain in [47:29] county at this point. [47:30] It would be it's He has plans to do that [47:32] at the in the future. He's just not [47:34] doing that right now because when we [47:35] bring that one in, then that also [47:38] encompasses because it creates them [47:39] another island which then means Best Buy [47:41] and the other resident that's up there [47:42] and plus the school district where the [47:44] stadium is at. All of that's got to come [47:45] in when that piece comes in. [47:47] That's a bigger lift than [47:49] what this one is and so he chose to [47:50] start with just this piece. [47:53] >> So as I read the agreement, it's a [47:56] voluntary annexation if [47:59] we agree to go against our current [48:02] ordinances for livestock and hunting. [48:05] But, if we choose to [48:08] not allow those two things, then that [48:09] would nullify this agreement that we're [48:11] voting on. [48:12] >> We would not be able to agree We [48:13] wouldn't be able to Well, no. [48:16] You can No, you could approve You could [48:18] do a motion to approve the annexation [48:20] subject to removal of those two items [48:22] from the pre-annexation agreement [48:24] because the pre-annexation agreement is [48:25] yet another piece of this that is not [48:28] It's It's just an agreement between the [48:29] developer and the and the city about [48:31] what he's going to do with this [48:32] property. [48:33] >> Got you. [48:34] >> So, you could do that if you want to. [48:37] >> I I don't like the fact that that's put [48:38] in the pre-annexation agreement when we [48:40] have two ordinances on hand right now [48:42] that don't necessarily limit livestock, [48:45] so yes, but hunting can still be done. [48:48] We just did it tonight where we had [48:49] three individuals who asked for [48:50] permission and were granted it. [48:52] >> On the consent agenda even. [48:54] >> Yeah, on the consent agenda even. [48:57] So, I don't [clears throat] know why we [48:58] would tie that privilege into [49:01] an annexation agreement. [49:05] That's all I have to say on this one. [49:06] >> for this body to decide, for sure. [49:10] » I would make a motion that we strike [49:12] >> Hold on, I can't I can't take another [49:13] motion. There's already one motion on [49:14] the floor. [49:15] >> Okay, yep, I understand. [49:18] So, further discussion on this one. So, [49:21] >> Yes, call the question. [49:23] >> Two options are you either go to the [49:24] vote or they [49:25] >> If there's no discussion, [49:27] I call the question if there's no more [49:28] discussion. [49:29] >> Okay, so question, do you want to um [49:32] the original motion was your motion, [49:33] right, Ralph? [49:34] So, you can withdraw your motion [49:37] or we can vote on it. [49:38] >> Let's see Let's see how the vote goes [49:40] and we can [49:41] come back at it on a different motion. [49:44] >> Okay, so it's it's a It is a um [49:47] roll call vote and and what you're [49:49] voting on is to to preliminarily approve [49:53] the pre-annexation agreement [49:56] and to set the public hearing for [49:58] further discussion on this for October [50:00] the 12th of 2026. That's the motion in [50:02] front of you. [50:04] Okay? [50:04] Roll call. [50:05] >> Persauder. [50:06] >> No. [50:07] >> Manor or Zapson, O'Loughlin. [50:09] >> No. [50:10] >> Appleby. [50:11] >> No. [50:11] >> Weber. [50:13] >> No. [50:13] >> Anna. [50:14] >> No. [50:15] >> Moore. [50:15] >> No. [50:16] >> Okay, so that motion fails. [50:18] >> [snorts] [50:19] >> Um [50:21] » So now Mike can make his motion if he'd [50:23] like to. [50:23] >> Mhm. You have another motion, Mike? [50:25] >> I do. I make motion that we accept it [50:29] contingent upon striking the [50:31] um [50:34] pasturing of cattle and goats and bow [50:36] hunting [50:38] >> from the pre-annexation agreement. [50:39] >> Correct. [50:42] » Can I add to Mike's motion? [50:44] And require annual permission for bow [50:47] hunting on that piece as well that's [50:48] inside the city limits. Should it be [50:52] » So Mike's is that a verbal okay? Cuz [50:55] shaking your head don't count. [50:56] >> Yeah. Yes, I do. I I agree with that. [50:59] >> Okay, do you have the motion in [51:00] something? [51:02] >> So I want to make it clear. We're going [51:03] to strike items 3C, [51:05] which is the pasturing of cattle and or [51:07] goats so long as the subject property is [51:08] owned agricultural upon applicant's [51:10] successful rezoning, blah blah blah. We [51:11] would strike that entire section, that [51:13] entire paragraph. It would also strike [51:15] section 3D, which is the for bow hunting [51:18] purposes piece. So both of those would [51:21] be removed from the pre-annexation [51:22] agreement. So the pre-annexation [51:24] agreement use of an annexed parcel would [51:26] be for enrollment in the FSA CRP program [51:29] or for agricultural row cropping [51:30] purposes. Only those two items. [51:33] Just want to make sure we're clear about [51:34] what's being taken out. [51:36] >> So we'd still be going after us to take [51:38] voluntarily. [51:39] >> Yep. It would still be an 80/20 [51:41] annexation, yes. Where Mr. Tevis's [51:43] property would be brought in with it. [51:45] >> Man, would you guys do this to your dad [51:47] or your grandpa? [51:49] >> Or you don't think this is a conflict of [51:50] interest that our mayor works there? [51:53] >> I don't have a conflict of interest. [51:56] I'm not an employee. I don't even have [51:57] an open file that [51:58] >> Did you even disclose that though to the [52:00] city council? [52:01] >> Everybody here knows I that it that that [52:04] previously I helped I assisted the um [52:06] the Robert Sinnett firm. I've never been [52:08] an employee. I've only been an [52:09] independent contractor who helped them [52:11] with specific projects. [52:12] >> And you did earlier in this meeting. [52:15] >> I did what? [52:15] >> No, I said that information. He didn't [52:18] disclose it. [52:18] >> No, he did. He did say it. [52:21] >> Who owns this land besides Brian Eddy? [52:23] >> He's got another partner um but I don't [52:25] remember his name. [52:26] >> Chad Runnebaum. [52:29] » It must be an M. [52:33] I don't I don't know the name. I don't [52:34] know. I don't know. [52:36] >> There's a Amy Sloan as successor [52:39] trustee. [52:42] And Chad Runnebaum and Brian Eddy. Those [52:45] are the three that I know of that are [52:46] involved in it. Those are the three that [52:47] signed the documents. [52:50] >> Okay, so I've got we've got a motion [52:51] that Mike's made. Is there a second to [52:53] Mike's motion? [52:54] >> Second. [52:55] >> Okay, further discussion with regard to [52:56] that motion then. [53:00] Okay, this is this again is only to set [53:02] the hearing with these adjustments. It [53:06] doesn't mean it's going to happen or [53:07] anything at this time. Actually, it's [53:10] only to move forward and have a have a [53:12] hearing. [53:13] >> The direction staff to continue moving [53:14] forward which means then we need to meet [53:15] with Buchanan County. We need to meet [53:16] with the school district to have those conversations with them. We've got [53:20] notices that we have to send out. It [53:21] puts a lot of things in motion to set up [53:24] the city council's ability to then have [53:25] a final vote, a final decision on [53:27] whether or not to move forward with [53:28] this. [53:28] >> And that's why I exactly asked questions [53:31] so you could define it more clearly for [53:32] everybody to understand. [53:33] >> And the October 12th meeting will be the [53:35] public hearing aspect of it and then it [53:37] subsequently after that would be the [53:40] final decision for the council to [53:41] decide. [53:41] >> Do we know if [53:43] Besco and whoever else has in that one [53:47] guy who lives out there, are they [53:48] willing to sign a volunteer? [53:50] >> That's a separate [53:53] >> Far as I know, Deb, that guy is not. [53:55] He's not volunteering. [53:57] >> Because they could I'm just thinking [53:58] they could start building from that way. [53:59] >> I don't know anything, frankly, cuz I [54:01] can tell you from what I understand, no. [54:03] I think there's like one guy, he's not [54:04] volunteering, and then like the Besco, I [54:06] don't know. Cuz last I knew you were [54:08] talking to him. [54:09] >> The other part [54:10] >> didn't get a response, right? [54:11] >> talking about Besco anymore right now. [54:13] I've had several conversations with [54:14] Besco. [54:15] >> Did you did talk to the owner or [54:17] whatever, cuz I knew you reached out to [54:19] him. [54:19] >> I've had several conversations with him, [54:20] but that's not part of the discussion [54:21] for for the motion. [54:23] This motion is on the other parcel. This [54:25] isn't on the motion that involves Besco. [54:27] >> But I'm just wondering if for Brian and [54:28] I said starting to build [54:30] by Roger's place, I think starting at [54:31] the other end and and leave Roger alone [54:33] for a while. [54:34] >> Still creates an island. [54:36] >> If he so I I can walk through that with [54:38] you. So if Brian decided to annex the [54:40] western 40 acres [54:42] >> If you do If you do this one here, it's [54:43] going to block it off and this will be [54:45] an entire island. [54:46] >> He would be required to bring everything [54:47] else in. [54:49] The city development board would say you [54:50] can't create an island. You have to [54:52] annex You have to bring all of this. [54:55] The The other part of this that that [54:56] Matt did not mention is is that this [54:58] would then the pre-annexation agreement [55:00] that was signed by [55:02] the partnership itself would then have [55:05] to be um [55:06] re- um [55:09] re-prepared again with with the [55:11] corrections with those things stricken. [55:13] They would have to agree to those those [55:16] changes that council is is proposing [55:18] here. Otherwise, there is no annexation [55:20] agreement in order to go forward at all. [55:22] >> You're saying Brian Eddy's got to agree [55:24] to it. [55:24] >> He's got to agree to these changes that [55:25] >> Yeah, but that doesn't change Roger's [55:27] situation. [55:28] >> If he doesn't agree to this, [55:30] then it's just squashed. It [55:32] >> It stops It stops everything. [55:34] >> And how does the resident benefit from [55:36] this? [55:38] >> Which resident? [55:40] » Our involuntary resident, Mr. [55:42] >> But you can make the argument that [55:43] Roger's already been getting the benefit [55:45] of living next to the city for the last [55:46] 10 years cuz we clear the street in [55:48] front of him, we maintain the street in [55:49] front of him that he uses to access his [55:50] home. [55:51] >> In what way would he benefit from the [55:53] annexation? [55:56] » I can't say that there is a direct [55:57] benefit from the annexation. I would [55:59] again say that he's already gotten the [56:01] benefit because the city takes care of [56:02] the street, we clear the street, we do [56:04] everything in front of the property that [56:05] he uses that he uses to access his [56:07] property. [56:07] >> The benefit would be he'd have to pay [56:08] more taxes. [56:12] But [56:13] I got to really can't afford it. [56:14] >> You mentioned that you want to mention [56:15] the road and the taxes and all that [56:17] stuff. That's the question. [56:18] >> Yes. [56:18] >> Yeah. [56:19] Come on up. [56:20] >> Yeah. Here is you discussing getting the [56:22] benefits [56:23] of that one road that goes by that [56:25] house, correct? [56:26] >> I'm just explaining your point. You made [56:27] it. It's a paved road, correct? Did he [56:29] ask for that road to be paved? [56:32] >> No. [56:33] >> I was not asking him anything he [56:34] requested he had the road already. Is [56:36] there anything you've seen there he [56:37] requires that road [56:39] to be plowed, snow plowed? Does he have [56:42] a requirement for that? [56:44] >> Well, another benefit is with that road [56:46] in front of him, [56:47] it was a former article road, didn't [56:48] cost him anything. [56:51] >> It was a dead end, actually. [56:53] >> Yeah. [56:53] >> I'm just explaining the reason that I [56:55] said what I said was because that is how [56:57] the city development board looks at [56:58] these things when they look at whether [56:59] or not to include properties that are [57:01] surrounded by cities. [57:02] >> I understand. But you said he increased [57:04] he got benefits he got increased traffic [57:08] because it was a dead end. He didn't [57:09] require that before. [57:12] I mean, I you say benefit [57:14] and we've heard that several times. I [57:15] just want to make a point of it. It's [57:17] not a benefit that he asked for. It's [57:20] not something he considers a benefit. [57:22] You may call it a benefit in your eyes, [57:24] but it is not a benefit to him. [57:25] >> I'm not calling it a benefit in my eyes [57:26] at all. I have a lot of empathy with [57:28] Roger. [57:28] >> Sorry, what did you mean then when you [57:30] said just a second ago benefit? [57:31] >> how the city development board will look [57:33] at this. That's all I'm explaining. [57:35] >> Okay. And so what city development like [57:38] >> a state level board that has to that [57:39] oversees annexations for cities across [57:41] the state of Iowa. [57:42] >> Okay. So if [57:43] >> to review that. [57:43] >> with the annexation and evaluation of [57:46] it, the board would see it as as that [57:48] what you're trying to say? [57:48] >> Yes. [57:49] >> Okay. [57:50] >> Thank you. [57:52] So um [57:53] Did [57:55] You want to mention that [57:57] >> We can't hear you. [58:00] >> Uh it's explained in the pre-annexation [58:01] agreement. There is a roll in on the [58:03] property taxes, which is what we're [58:04] allowed to do by law. [58:06] >> for him. [58:07] >> For Roger specifically. [58:09] Yes, that that um [58:11] brings it in so that Roger pays [58:13] his taxes would escalate over 5 years. [58:15] It's not a day one you have to pay all [58:17] of the taxes due to the city. [58:19] Um that is within the annexation [58:22] agreement. [58:23] I can't remember exactly where it's at. [58:24] >> No, it's probably because it'd be [58:25] illegal right to tax him that high. [58:27] >> it's prorated over a period of time, [58:29] correct? [58:30] Hold on. It's the city's choice whether [58:33] you bring everybody in day one and they [58:35] have to pay everything or whether you [58:36] allow up to 5 years for those taxes to [58:38] roll on over 5 years. In an effort to [58:40] try to help Mr. Tempest, the way that [58:42] this was structured was so that it rolls [58:43] on over 5 years so that he doesn't have [58:45] to pay all these taxes on day one. [58:47] >> Okay. [58:47] >> To give him time to adjust to it. So the [58:50] way that it's written is for the first [58:51] and second years he pays 25%. The [58:53] document says 75, that's because it's telling you how much is being not [58:58] charged. So for the first and second [59:00] years he would pay 25% of the regular [59:01] taxes. Third and fourth he would pay [59:03] 40%, fifth and sixth he would pay 55%, [59:08] seventh and eighth he would pay 70%, [59:10] ninth and tenth he would pay [59:15] that is when he would be actually paying [59:16] >> And how much does the the [59:18] valuation cost to him from going from [59:21] that to [59:22] in dollars and per year at this rate [59:25] >> for you. [59:26] >> Matt, when you were [59:27] >> I don't have those numbers for you [59:28] tonight. [59:28] >> Okay. [59:29] >> Matt, when you were using those numbers, [59:30] were you talking years or every 6 [59:32] months? [59:33] >> This is how it's written in the [59:34] document. It's 2 years, first and second [59:36] years. [59:37] >> So, it's 12 years before 12 years before [59:39] he pays 100%? [59:41] >> It's 10 as it's written. [59:42] >> In the 11th year [59:43] >> 11th year he would pay 100%. [59:44] >> 11th year he doesn't. [59:46] >> Right. [59:47] >> [snorts] [59:47] >> Cuz I was thinking it was five, but he's [59:49] the mayor of the city attorney has [59:51] written this document as [59:53] through 10 years. [59:57] » Okay. So, [59:58] >> Um [59:59] Do you want to read Mike's motion? [1:00:03] » Okay. So, what I [1:00:07] am attempting to do is to accept the [1:00:10] pre-annexation [1:00:11] a [1:00:13] agreement striking [1:00:16] the animal portion and the hunting [1:00:18] requirement. [1:00:20] >> 3C [1:00:20] >> I'm assuming the rest of it stays the [1:00:22] same? [1:00:22] >> It should say preliminarily approved. [1:00:25] >> Not [1:00:25] >> I [1:00:26] >> Yeah, approving it. Yeah. [1:00:27] >> I'm writing on the back of my paper. I [1:00:29] don't have what was originally done. [1:00:31] >> And Suzy, just for ease, it's striking [1:00:33] 3C and 3D [1:00:36] from the [1:00:37] provided agreement. [1:00:38] >> From the previous [1:00:39] >> And that can be done just tonight just [1:00:41] at the [1:00:41] >> The council can make the motion that [1:00:42] way, then it goes back to Mr. Eddie and [1:00:44] his group to determine whether or not [1:00:45] they want to accept that. [1:00:47] They can either resign the agreement [1:00:48] with those two pieces of them removed [1:00:49] and we move forward or we stop and they [1:00:52] come back to discuss what they want to [1:00:53] do. [1:00:55] And then depending upon the response [1:00:57] from them [1:00:58] and whatever else that this is working [1:01:00] on in the meantime, then that would have [1:01:02] to take place before the October 12th [1:01:05] um public hearing, all of the that that [1:01:06] other paperwork and other things would [1:01:08] take place because of there's nothing [1:01:10] that's being [1:01:11] by night [1:01:12] in terms of approval. It's just a a [1:01:14] preliminary just so that the paperwork [1:01:16] can be processed [1:01:17] >> Right. [1:01:18] >> until you reach the point where the [1:01:19] public hearing takes place. We're [1:01:21] They make you jump through a lot of [1:01:23] hurdles in order to happen and we have [1:01:24] to follow each and every one of them [1:01:26] specifically. [1:01:27] >> And that's why there's a lot of hurdles [1:01:28] for you to jump through so you make sure [1:01:30] you do it correctly. Absolutely. [1:01:32] >> You don't want to get halfway through it [1:01:33] and then and then have it fail and then [1:01:35] fail. [1:01:36] >> I forgot all about that. [1:01:38] >> All right. So [1:01:40] everybody understands what the motion is [1:01:42] at this point in time. Anybody have any [1:01:44] questions about the motion itself that [1:01:46] you're going to be voting on? [1:01:48] Okay. Go ahead. [1:01:49] >> Um call the roll then. [1:01:50] >> Weber. [1:01:52] >> Yes. [1:01:53] >> Anna. [1:01:53] >> No. [1:01:54] >> Moore. [1:01:55] >> Yes. [1:01:56] >> Rosedahl. [1:01:56] >> Yes. [1:01:57] >> O'Laughlin. [1:01:58] >> Yes. [1:01:59] >> Appleby. [1:02:00] >> No. [1:02:01] >> It passes 6 to 2. [1:02:04] >> [clears throat] [1:02:04] >> Sorry. [1:02:04] >> 4 to 2. [1:02:06] coming up to total 6. How about [1:02:09] that? [1:02:10] All right. So um [1:02:13] » So it passes 4 to 2? [1:02:15] >> Mhm. Passes 4 to 2. So the next steps on [1:02:17] this just [1:02:18] >> it pass when the other things would fail [1:02:20] on the hearing aspect? [1:02:21] >> How would Cuz the majority voted in [1:02:23] favor. [1:02:24] >> Okay. [1:02:24] >> Four people voted for it, two voted [1:02:26] against. It's a simple majority. [1:02:28] >> Okay. [1:02:28] >> If you're thinking about the second [1:02:30] reading aspect, that requires a super [1:02:32] majority which means six out of the [1:02:33] seven board members have to vote [1:02:35] positive [1:02:37] whether they're present or not. [1:02:38] >> Okay. [1:02:38] >> So if one is not present, then everybody [1:02:40] who's present has to vote in favor of [1:02:42] >> Okay. [1:02:42] >> Cuz the non non-present person is [1:02:44] considered a no vote. [1:02:47] >> Okay. [1:02:47] >> Correct. For the super majority. [1:02:49] >> On the super majority. [1:02:50] >> Okay. [1:02:51] >> Moving on then to item number 33. [1:02:54] Um motion to authorize the city [1:02:56] >> If I could real quick, I just want to [1:02:57] make sure that everybody's clear on next [1:02:58] steps on this then. Because the motion [1:03:00] approved [1:03:01] passed 4 to 2, [1:03:03] staff will continue moving forward. We [1:03:05] will go back to Brian Eddy and say this [1:03:07] is this is what the council said. You [1:03:09] basically have the choice. You either [1:03:11] accept this and we move on or you don't [1:03:13] and then we got to go back to the you [1:03:14] would have to have a discussion with [1:03:15] council about what could be done related [1:03:17] to that, if that's what he wants to do. [1:03:19] But I'll reach out to him tomorrow to [1:03:20] have that discussion. [1:03:22] >> The other thing that could happen is is [1:03:23] that there could be further negotiation [1:03:25] with regard to that. And if there was [1:03:26] further negotiation, then it would come [1:03:27] have to come back to council before it [1:03:29] could actually be [1:03:30] >> Right. [1:03:30] >> Cuz council has to preliminarily approve [1:03:32] it before we can get the public hearing. [1:03:34] >> Correct. [1:03:35] >> All right. [1:03:36] Item number 33 was is a motion to [1:03:39] authorize the city manager to dispose of [1:03:41] the surplus [1:03:42] K9 kennel [1:03:44] and deposit any generated proceeds into [1:03:46] the K9 fund for for future room for [1:03:49] future use. [1:03:51] I need a motion. [1:03:52] >> So moved. [1:03:53] >> Second. [1:03:54] >> A motion and a second. Okay, Matt, do [1:03:55] you want to cover that or [1:03:59] questions? [1:03:59] >> What's that kennel worth? [1:04:01] >> We don't know. [1:04:02] To be honest. [1:04:03] >> Whatever somebody wants to pay. [1:04:05] >> When we say when we say kennel [1:04:08] I want to make it clear, too. Feel free [1:04:09] to come up, Chief. I When we say kennel [1:04:12] a lot of people's connotation of that [1:04:14] word is going to be like a little 42 by [1:04:16] 36 inch That That's not what I'm talking [1:04:18] about. This is an actual building that's [1:04:21] probably a 10 by 10 building that half [1:04:23] of it is the kennel [1:04:25] Half of it's the run. Right. So it's a [1:04:27] it's sizable. That's the reason why [1:04:29] we're asking for the city council to [1:04:30] approve disposing of it. [1:04:32] >> must be able to move pretty easy? [1:04:33] >> It takes a flatbed truck. Yes. [1:04:35] >> I I Looking back to when we purchased [1:04:38] that, it was like around $4,800. [1:04:41] And then you take that and then you take [1:04:42] adding into heating and cooling into it. [1:04:45] But like [1:04:46] Matt said, ultimately the worth value is [1:04:48] what someone's going to pay for it. It's [1:04:49] you know, it's a used kennel or a used [1:04:52] building now at this point that's had [1:04:53] another animal in it. It's just a matter [1:04:55] of if it's going to work for somebody [1:04:56] else's property and the way that they [1:04:58] have things set up to have that work for [1:05:00] them. [1:05:01] >> What height is it? [1:05:02] >> I couldn't tell you. It's six I mean, [1:05:04] you could walk inside of it. [1:05:05] >> Yeah, it's it's a pretty big [1:05:06] >> It's like a [clears throat] You can [1:05:07] think of it like a garden shed. [1:05:08] >> it be used as a shed? [1:05:10] >> And they have to have forklifts. They [1:05:11] have to have forklifts to lift it up on [1:05:13] flatbed or to drag it off. [1:05:15] Or or you can drag it off flatbed. [1:05:19] >> Um the thought process here was if the [1:05:21] council approves us disposing of the [1:05:22] property, then we would list it on a [1:05:23] site like um like we did with some of [1:05:25] the parks and rec stuff. And then some [1:05:27] of the street department. [1:05:29] It was at a treatment plant and I know [1:05:30] Brad and and Travis had talked about [1:05:32] moving it to the street department to [1:05:34] store it there. [1:05:35] >> What? [1:05:37] >> Is it still at the treatment plant? So, [1:05:38] but the thought process was to move it [1:05:40] to the streets department to get it out [1:05:41] of the way of the construction projects. [1:05:42] >> So, when the somebody brings a dog into [1:05:44] the city, where's where them dogs going [1:05:46] now? [1:05:46] >> That's that's the city pound, which is [1:05:48] the streets department. There's a bay of the streets department [1:05:52] building that is what it operates as the [1:05:54] city pound. [1:05:55] >> It was constructed for that purpose and [1:05:56] we have that. [1:05:57] >> So, we'll still be doing that. [1:05:58] >> And that's safe and everything else and [1:05:59] we're up to code on that. [1:06:00] >> This was only bought for housing the [1:06:02] canine when we had the police canine. [1:06:04] And it was actually at the officer's [1:06:05] house when that was happening. [1:06:08] Sir. [1:06:09] >> Do you have a certain date [1:06:11] that you're going to have it open until [1:06:14] and then it goes to the highest bidder? [1:06:16] That is how such a date [1:06:17] >> That's how the auction would work, yes. [1:06:19] We would function we it would function [1:06:20] that way. [1:06:21] >> Okay. [1:06:22] >> Just for clarification. [1:06:23] >> I can't remember the name of the company [1:06:24] that we used when we did the [1:06:26] Gov Deals? [1:06:28] >> Yeah, could have been. [1:06:28] >> Gov Deals I think is the is the website [1:06:30] that we used when we did the stuff for the parks and rec department. So, we [1:06:34] would use the same site to to house this [1:06:35] one and do this auction. [1:06:37] >> And you would be looking at that [1:06:40] mid-September as a close date or [1:06:42] something? Well, I mean what do you have [1:06:44] in mind? [1:06:44] >> Whenever we can get to it, depending on [1:06:46] what the council tells us to do tonight. [1:06:48] >> Okay. [1:06:50] >> As soon as possible. I mean I'd want to [1:06:51] get it done as soon as we can. [1:06:53] >> Right. [1:06:55] >> Thanks. [1:06:55] >> Thank you, Chief. [1:06:56] >> Okay, so further discussion with regard [1:06:58] to this. [1:07:00] Hearing none, roll call vote. [1:07:01] >> O'Laughlin? [1:07:02] >> Yes. [1:07:03] >> Appleby? [1:07:03] >> Yes. [1:07:04] >> Weber? [1:07:04] >> Yes. [1:07:05] >> Anna? [1:07:05] >> Yes. [1:07:06] >> Moore? [1:07:06] >> Yes. [1:07:07] >> Gorsuch? [1:07:07] >> Yes. [1:07:08] >> It passes 6-0. Next, we move on item [1:07:10] number 34. [1:07:12] Need a motion to approve the commercial [1:07:13] restoration rehab grant application with [1:07:16] Wapsie Realty [1:07:18] uh in the amount of $3,000 [1:07:21] 842.13 [1:07:23] cents. [1:07:24] >> So moved. [1:07:25] >> Second. [1:07:26] >> Motion a second. Okay, so the the [1:07:28] um [1:07:30] as you recall, um [1:07:32] Heather Federspiel had submitted [1:07:34] this previously to us for the the brick [1:07:37] work out for the brick work outside. [1:07:39] Um that has not yet been done. The work [1:07:42] has [clears throat] not yet been done. [1:07:43] The um so we haven't paid for anything, we [1:07:47] haven't done anything. So what she wants [1:07:48] to do now is she wants to also replace [1:07:50] the windows. [1:07:53] Um and by um [1:07:54] this is um [1:07:56] I guess the first one is is many is many [1:07:58] franks that we're that we're dealing [1:08:00] with. So we're [1:08:02] so what she's trying to do is um [1:08:07] the question is is this a new one such [1:08:09] that she can't do it or is this one that [1:08:11] she's just is she's she's just um adding in a a second one. Um she's increasing the second one, which [1:08:19] is still within the limits that we have. [1:08:21] So So this isn't exceeding the limits of what we have for [1:08:25] um the restoration funds. Uh rehab it's merely um [1:08:30] adding something new to what was [1:08:32] originally submitted. Does that Matt, is [1:08:34] that [1:08:36] >> It's basically piggybacking two [1:08:38] storefronts on the same building. Two [1:08:40] projects, right? [1:08:41] >> There's two separate projects. This will [1:08:43] be two separate applications for the [1:08:45] same building. So in all you'd have four projects for lack of a better way [1:08:50] of putting it with two pieces of [1:08:51] property. [1:08:52] What I would say is that I think when [1:08:53] you read the the policy that's been put [1:08:56] in place, the commercial rehab policy, [1:08:58] it does state in there that they can [1:08:59] only have one every 12 months, and I [1:09:00] want to say [1:09:02] then again but at the same time, this is [1:09:04] the council's decision. The council can [1:09:05] do what the council wants to do. [1:09:07] >> Has she done two of them already? [1:09:09] >> She applied for them, but they have not [1:09:10] been paid. That's the mayor's point is [1:09:12] that they have not been paid. She has [1:09:13] not started the work. She's only applied [1:09:15] and been approved for the first part of [1:09:17] it. So, there's a lot There's a couple [1:09:18] of other ways you can look at it. [1:09:21] >> Sorry, do you know why she waited or [1:09:24] >> Pardon me? [1:09:24] >> I I don't know why she waited to do [1:09:26] this. I don't know I mean I think when [1:09:28] she initially was looking at it, she was [1:09:29] looking at the exterior of the building [1:09:30] and the the tuckpointing was the [1:09:32] priority and then as she got into kind [1:09:33] of looking at that further, decided that [1:09:35] she should do the windows as well. [1:09:37] It happens. I mean, you do a remodeling [1:09:39] project and it grows. Every remodeling [1:09:41] project I've ever done in my life has [1:09:42] grown. So, I never It never is what I [1:09:45] thought it would [1:09:45] >> We want to look at nicer than the [1:09:46] original one and then we're adding a new [1:09:48] one. [1:09:48] >> Right. [1:09:49] >> Okay. [1:09:49] >> Yeah. We're We're adding to the original [1:09:51] one when we [music] [1:09:52] >> But not today with our discussion, they [1:09:54] said we had to have five properties to [1:09:55] do that. Does that [1:09:56] >> Oh, no. That's a whole different thing. [1:09:57] This is the one that city runs. [1:09:59] >> Okay. [1:09:59] >> What you were thinking about was the [1:10:00] community development block grant stuff [1:10:02] that we did where we had the facades. [1:10:04] That was a whole different thing. That [1:10:05] had fed money in it and a whole bunch of [1:10:07] different pieces to it. This is purely a [1:10:10] city of Independence grant program. [1:10:12] >> See, we can't do the like we did for the the [1:10:16] restoration of all the ones up on the up [1:10:18] on the [1:10:19] >> From the second From Second Avenue to [1:10:21] the east. [1:10:21] >> Because Because right at Second Avenue [1:10:23] is where the flood plane comes in. [1:10:25] >> Right. [1:10:25] >> So, we can't get a grant from the state [1:10:27] or the federal or anybody else to do [1:10:29] these. So, the only way we're ever going [1:10:30] to get these fixed is if the homeowner [1:10:32] does it themselves or if we get involved [1:10:35] if the city does the the commercial [1:10:37] restoration rehab grant, which we have [1:10:39] the money available for. [1:10:41] So, the question is, do you want to [1:10:43] um [1:10:44] approve this for the 38-42-13 [1:10:47] to allow her to do both? [1:10:49] >> We're not out nothing and then she does [1:10:51] it [1:10:52] if we approve it. [1:10:53] >> If it's within guidelines. Right. If she [1:10:55] doesn't do it, we don't pay. her. [1:10:56] >> Yeah, so. [1:10:57] We want downtown to look nicer, so I'd [1:10:59] make a motion that we approve it. [1:11:01] >> I already have a motion. [1:11:02] >> We already have a We already have the [1:11:03] motion. [1:11:05] Okay, so then [1:11:05] >> I'm behind. [1:11:07] >> Okay, so is there further discussion on [1:11:08] this? [1:11:10] Okay, then then this will be a roll call [1:11:11] vote then. [1:11:12] >> Appleby? Yes. [1:11:13] >> Weber? [1:11:14] >> Yes. [1:11:14] >> Hanna? [1:11:15] >> Yes. [1:11:16] >> Moore? [1:11:16] >> Yes. [1:11:16] >> Fasbender? [1:11:17] >> Yes. [1:11:18] >> McLaughlin? [1:11:18] >> Yes. [1:11:19] >> That passes 6-0. [1:11:21] Um item number 35 is the the second [1:11:24] building. This one's the one at 121 [1:11:27] First [1:11:28] East, which is um [1:11:32] the Isn't it the the gymnasium one [1:11:34] that's next door to the [1:11:35] >> dance [1:11:36] >> Yeah. [1:11:37] >> dance gymnastics [1:11:38] >> Yeah, the dance. Yeah. [1:11:39] >> Okay, so did I get it Did I do the [1:11:41] motion already? [1:11:41] >> You don't have a motion. [1:11:42] >> Okay. [1:11:42] >> I'll make that motion we approve it. [1:11:43] >> Second. [1:11:46] » Okay, so [1:11:47] >> Literally same situation as the other [1:11:48] one. [1:11:50] >> Except this is $5,000 and the other one [1:11:52] was the 384213. [1:11:54] >> Yeah, cuz it's the the [1:11:56] one with the side limit of $5,000 kicks [1:11:58] in because of the value of the work. [1:12:03] » So is there further discussion regarding [1:12:04] this one then? [1:12:07] Hearing none, this will be a roll call [1:12:08] vote also. [1:12:09] >> Weber? [1:12:10] >> Yes. [1:12:10] >> Hanna? [1:12:11] >> Yes. [1:12:11] >> Moore? [1:12:12] >> Yes. [1:12:13] >> Fasbender? [1:12:13] >> Yes. [1:12:14] >> McLaughlin? [1:12:14] >> Yes. [1:12:15] >> Appleby? [1:12:15] >> Yes. [1:12:16] >> Passes 6-0. Next we move to reports on [1:12:18] item number 36 is the um the police [1:12:21] department monthly report. Does anybody [1:12:23] have any questions regarding that [1:12:25] report? [1:12:29] Okay, hearing none um [1:12:31] then we would move to item number 37, [1:12:33] which is the fire department monthly [1:12:35] report. Anybody have any questions [1:12:36] regarding that report? [1:12:41] Okay, hearing none, item number 38 then [1:12:43] is the building department monthly [1:12:44] report. Any questions [1:12:45] regarding that report? [1:12:49] Okay, hearing none, then item number 39 [1:12:51] is the ILPT report. Anybody have any [1:12:53] questions regarding that? [1:12:57] Okay, let's move to item number 40 then, [1:12:59] which is council member council members. [1:13:01] Brett, do you have something to start [1:13:02] with? [1:13:03] >> I have nothing there. [1:13:04] >> Okay. Deb, is there anything else you [1:13:06] have? [1:13:06] >> The only thing I was going to ask was [1:13:07] that lead summit meeting they're having [1:13:09] out at the Heart of the Lakes on 21st [1:13:11] and 22nd of October. Is that going to be [1:13:13] a Zoom thing that we can zoom in on, do [1:13:15] you know? [1:13:16] >> I don't I don't know. We'll tell you [1:13:18] tomorrow or yeah, or I can reach out to [1:13:20] her on your behalf or whatever. [1:13:21] >> No, I can do that. Okay, thank you. [1:13:22] >> Okay. [1:13:23] That's it. [1:13:25] >> Uh [1:13:25] nothing. [1:13:27] >> Okay. [1:13:28] Right. [1:13:28] >> Nothing from me, Mayor. [1:13:30] >> Like [1:13:31] Thanks to the chamber for a nice golf [1:13:33] outing. We enjoyed it. Uh we didn't do [1:13:36] the best, but we had a lot of fun. [1:13:38] >> Natural talent. [1:13:39] >> have high expectations for you guys. [1:13:41] >> Travis carried us. [1:13:42] >> Yeah, he did. We'll just say that. [1:13:43] Travis carried us. [1:13:45] >> We're in flip-flops the whole time also. [1:13:47] >> Of course, yeah. [1:13:48] >> Listen. [1:13:49] >> Uh yeah, I'd like to say that we had a a [1:13:51] really big storm and as always the city [1:13:55] is impressive with things that they do. [1:13:58] And we prove it when things like a storm [1:14:00] come along and knock down powerlines and [1:14:02] trees all over the city. Out in full [1:14:04] force, cleaned up, looked good. [1:14:06] Residents came out, cleaned up their [1:14:08] stuff. I got to say it's this is why [1:14:11] this is the town is so great. [1:14:12] And they prove it and these those [1:14:15] wasn't great, but you know, and I feel [1:14:17] bad for all the neighbors and [1:14:19] a lot of [1:14:20] places that still have to clean up and [1:14:22] have damages done and lost their trees, [1:14:24] of course, and [1:14:26] storms and sheds and whatnot, but [1:14:30] as a whole I'm impressive of the town [1:14:32] and happy with the response. [1:14:36] >> Okay, thanks. [1:14:37] Um Matt. [1:14:38] >> Um kind of what Councilwoman Apple we [1:14:41] just talked about. Thank you to the [1:14:42] crews who helped with the storm clean up [1:14:44] Friday night. Um streets department, [1:14:45] police department, fire department, [1:14:47] parks and Recreation Department was hard [1:14:49] at it this morning working on our parks, [1:14:51] cleaning those up, River View and [1:14:52] different areas. I O P T of course and [1:14:54] all of the work that they did with their power lines and communication [1:14:58] lines, all the different things that [1:14:59] they did Friday night. Um, it's a lot of [1:15:01] work but as Councilwoman Appleby talked [1:15:03] about and [1:15:04] I was out driving around with my wife [1:15:06] Friday night after the storm after [1:15:07] everything went through trying to just [1:15:09] pull things off the road, make sure [1:15:10] roads were open as I was able to and [1:15:12] it was very impressive to see as soon as [1:15:14] the rain stopped there was people out [1:15:15] with chainsaws cleaning up. So, very [1:15:18] impressive to see and and makes you proud to be from from Iowa [1:15:22] when you see stuff like that happen. [1:15:24] Um, related to the tree dump, Brad does [1:15:26] have a plan for working through uh the [1:15:30] excessive amounts of uh debris that we [1:15:32] have there. Um, he's going to some of [1:15:35] the stuff left will be relocated to the [1:15:36] south side of the creek that's there and [1:15:38] temporarily while we until we can get [1:15:40] the grinding crews in to get things [1:15:41] cleaned up. So, but uh he's well aware [1:15:43] of that and they're doing a great job. I [1:15:45] know they were out there, I think it was [1:15:47] him actually that was out there Saturday [1:15:48] and I think he was out there Sunday [1:15:49] also. [1:15:50] >> there Sunday too. [1:15:51] >> Um, pushing trees up and trying to make [1:15:52] sure that as residents are bringing [1:15:54] things in that's pushed back so that [1:15:56] they have a place to to dump things. [1:15:57] >> And a lot of people appreciate that cuz [1:15:58] they couldn't have got in there without [1:15:59] him being out there. [1:16:00] >> Yeah, I think if he wasn't out there it [1:16:01] would be very hard for people to get in [1:16:03] there and and dump stuff. So, to that [1:16:05] end I would ask anybody that's watching [1:16:07] to make sure that you dump the the [1:16:08] smaller stuff on, you know, where it's [1:16:09] supposed to. There's signs out there [1:16:11] that indicate where you need to put [1:16:12] things at. Um, try to follow those, it [1:16:14] helps our guys stay on top of it. [1:16:16] Um, we had a really good tour today with [1:16:18] Cating Properties. Um, they looked at [1:16:20] Independence for a possible future [1:16:22] workforce housing project. Nothing was [1:16:24] committed to or anything like that [1:16:25] today. Obviously anything that happens [1:16:27] like that the council would be involved [1:16:29] in those decisions. Um, [1:16:31] but Independence I felt like that it [1:16:32] really showed very nicely to a potential [1:16:35] company to come in and uh [1:16:37] potentially develop some areas for [1:16:39] workforce housing. Obviously with the [1:16:40] amount of uh additional jobs that we [1:16:42] have coming with Prease and with Gator [1:16:43] and those different different companies [1:16:45] that are expanding that we're really [1:16:46] happy to see [1:16:47] there is going to be a need for [1:16:49] additional housing. [1:16:50] >> Did you plan that schedule? [1:16:52] >> I did. I [1:16:53] >> Did a good job. [1:16:53] >> did that agenda together. Thank you. [1:16:55] >> Good to see the amount of things on that [1:16:56] plan. [1:16:57] >> We spent a lot of time driving We spent [1:16:58] a fair amount of time I would say [1:16:59] driving around looking at property that [1:17:01] could potentially be developed as well [1:17:03] as this afternoon we spent some time [1:17:04] driving around looking at all the [1:17:05] recreational facilities that we have. [1:17:08] And if you've ever taken a moment and [1:17:10] actually driven around and looking at [1:17:11] everything for the city for a city our [1:17:12] size we have a lot of of amenities in [1:17:15] town. [1:17:16] >> We do. [1:17:16] >> So [1:17:17] very very good to see. [1:17:18] >> That's exactly what they were saying. [1:17:20] How how impressive they were were with [1:17:22] the town itself. [1:17:24] Also the lunch the luncheon meeting that [1:17:26] we had [1:17:28] where we had people from Prease and we [1:17:29] had people from [1:17:31] um [1:17:31] >> Gator both and they explained their plans. They explained how many [1:17:35] potential new employees they're going to [1:17:37] have. I mean it was and they did an [1:17:39] excellent job and um [1:17:42] school district did an excellent job as [1:17:43] well. Wade talked about the the work [1:17:45] that the hospital was doing and and the [1:17:48] additional [1:17:49] employees that were they were going to [1:17:50] have there. I mean it [1:17:52] from the sound of things I you know they [1:17:53] can't put too many numbers on things but [1:17:55] it sounds like there's a tremendous [1:17:57] amount of new [1:17:59] um [1:18:00] employees that are going to be hired in [1:18:01] the city within a relatively short time [1:18:03] period and it's it's very impressive. [1:18:05] >> There's a lot of growth happening and [1:18:06] we're very happy to see that. So. [1:18:08] >> And one one comment quite a few of them [1:18:10] made [1:18:11] was they can't believe how much [1:18:13] Independence has to offer and all of our [1:18:16] parks and all of our facilities for a [1:18:19] town of this size. They said this seems [1:18:22] you know couple of them made a comment [1:18:23] they said it seems like a town of more 9 [1:18:25] or 10,000 with everything that you have [1:18:27] here. [1:18:29] Which is pretty impressive. [1:18:32] >> I don't know if you would uh [1:18:34] I forgot. I've had people calling me up [1:18:36] and asking so is Independence not going [1:18:38] to have a [1:18:40] ambulance service anymore and I tried to [1:18:41] explain to it so if you [1:18:43] give a brief overview to the public that [1:18:45] we're not going to suspend that [1:18:46] ambulance service because [1:18:48] >> I have one more thing before you do that [1:18:49] though. I'm just that's okay. I just [1:18:51] wanted to let the council know I'll be [1:18:52] out of the office on Wednesday. I've got [1:18:54] some personal appointments I've got to [1:18:55] deal with so [1:18:56] >> That's it. [1:18:57] >> Yeah, when the when the voters voted to [1:19:00] approve the proposition to allow the [1:19:03] a county run [1:19:05] ambulance service that is how that was um [1:19:10] county then [1:19:11] made arrangements to obtain a obtained a [1:19:14] um [1:19:15] one ambulance right now. They've got [1:19:16] other ones. They got a director that's [1:19:18] been hired. They've got um [1:19:21] uh people that they're they're [1:19:22] interviewing for positions. Um the current contract with AMR expires on [1:19:28] October 31st [1:19:29] and all all the information we have from [1:19:32] the county is is that they will be fully [1:19:33] up and running um handling the entire [1:19:35] county uh effective November 1st. [1:19:38] >> Thank you. That [1:19:39] should put some minds at ease. [1:19:43] >> Need a motion to adjourn then. [1:19:44] >> So moved. [1:19:45] >> Second. [1:19:46] >> All in favor. [1:19:46] >> Aye. [1:19:47] >> Stands adjourned.