1 00:00:06,220 --> 00:00:07,640 Raise your eyes for the pleasure of allegiance. 2 00:00:10,890 --> 00:00:25,010 I pledge allegiance to the light of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands. One nation under God, the indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Please remain standing for the invocation. 3 00:00:28,350 --> 00:00:38,370 Lord, thank you for this day and the blessings you have bestowed upon us. We implore that you direct our hearts, our tongues, and our actions to begin accordance with your will. 4 00:00:38,370 --> 00:00:41,970 So, same as from mistakes in airing judgment. 5 00:00:42,630 --> 00:00:45,070 We ask this through Jesus Christ our Lord, amen. 6 00:00:46,210 --> 00:00:46,730 All 7 00:00:49,540 --> 00:00:49,700 right. 8 00:00:49,860 --> 00:00:52,620 Good evening and welcome to a special meeting of the Independence City Council. 9 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:59,220 This is a special meeting, which means that we are constrained to the items that are on 10 00:00:59,220 --> 00:00:59,780 the agenda. 11 00:00:59,960 --> 00:01:03,160 We cannot have any else other discussions. 12 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:09,220 And specifically, the purpose of this special meeting is to administer the business on this 13 00:01:09,220 --> 00:01:14,080 agenda which is the proposed ordinance for tax rates, first reading of our tax 14 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:18,760 rate as well as awarding concrete bids and by the strong law enforcement 15 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:23,120 presence we have a promotion that we're going to go ahead and take care of 16 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:29,040 this evening as well. By way of the what I've probably said every year for the last 17 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:33,280 several years is we are doing a special meeting because the wonderful common 18 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:37,500 wealth requires that we have a budget passed by the end of our fiscal year which 19 00:01:37,500 --> 00:01:44,580 of June 30th, and then sometime in August they get us the numbers that calculate the 20 00:01:44,580 --> 00:01:45,360 compensating rate. 21 00:01:45,580 --> 00:01:48,960 We can't set a tax rate until we know what that compensating rate is. 22 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:50,480 We find that out. 23 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:55,760 The state gets the numbers to us sometime in August, and we have to have two readings of 24 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:59,880 an ordinance so we can begin printing tax bills to go out in October. 25 00:02:00,460 --> 00:02:04,340 So there's just no possible way we can do pretty much every year can't do this without 26 00:02:04,340 --> 00:02:05,000 a special reading. 27 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:08,800 So that is been the primary reason for the special we use the said tax rate 28 00:02:09,420 --> 00:02:13,840 Because this is my final time this week last year you can listen to me. Why and about how the state sets that up? 29 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:15,200 But I had to get in one more 30 00:02:16,640 --> 00:02:18,660 With that said before we get started 31 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,060 Madam clerk roll call of members, please 32 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:24,080 Here here 33 00:02:29,090 --> 00:02:29,510 Here 34 00:02:30,370 --> 00:02:30,790 Here 35 00:02:30,790 --> 00:02:31,610 here 36 00:02:33,830 --> 00:02:42,930 All right, all present accounted for we definitely have a quorum we will go ahead and move on and with that we will move on 37 00:02:43,610 --> 00:02:45,830 Sergeant walking could you join me up front please? 38 00:02:58,260 --> 00:03:01,760 You don't have the badge yet, but I I see your collar points. I think it's covered 39 00:03:03,300 --> 00:03:04,340 All right 40 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:11,780 So this is a very happy moment. We've got a great department. This I think everybody here knows 41 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:22,440 I have a particular fan of now Sargent walking and was very, very glad to see the promotion process play out the way it did and very happy to be in this position right now. 42 00:03:22,660 --> 00:03:23,960 So I will get started. 43 00:03:24,740 --> 00:03:26,980 Two more of these presidents shall come greeting. 44 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:34,060 Where is the mayor and the police chief of the city of Independence Kentucky by virtue of the authority invested in them by the provisions of the Commonwealth of Kentucky revised statutes? 45 00:03:34,060 --> 00:03:41,520 And the charter of the City of Independence do hereby appoint Doug walking a sergeant for the police department in the city of independence, Kentucky. 46 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:53,100 Now, therefore, Doug walking is hereby authorize and empowered to execute and discharge all the duties appertaining to set office and entitled to all the rights, privileges and benefits thereof during his good behavior. 47 00:03:53,100 --> 00:03:56,800 In Desmond there are Vice Christopher J. Reiner from Mayor of City of Independence and Brian 48 00:03:56,800 --> 00:04:00,880 Praierny, please chief independence, please department to hear and to set our hand and 49 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:07,200 to fix our signature to the stock and document this second day of August 2026, the actual 50 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:10,880 official promotion date, but we always like to have the opportunity to do this in front 51 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,760 of Council and our citizens, so congratulations, Sargent. 52 00:05:57,950 --> 00:05:59,790 Now let's hear it one more time for Sargent Walker. 53 00:05:59,790 --> 00:06:00,670 That 54 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:18,240 completes the fun of this evening, now on to the boring things. 55 00:06:20,020 --> 00:06:21,660 We have no items, bold business. 56 00:06:21,940 --> 00:06:24,560 We have the two aforementioned items of new business. 57 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:30,320 The first one is proposed ordinance, setting our tax rate for the 2026-27 school year. 58 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:31,000 Turn it over. 59 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:32,020 It would be so kind. 60 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:33,500 School year? 61 00:06:34,060 --> 00:06:34,160 School year? 62 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:34,740 School year? 63 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:36,040 Do I say school year? 64 00:06:36,260 --> 00:06:36,420 Yeah. 65 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:41,360 Well, technically it is school year, not the school board. 66 00:06:42,280 --> 00:07:11,340 This is an ordinance of the City of Independence in Ken County, Kentucky providing for the annual assessment of all real estate personal property within the City of Independence, which is subject to taxation thereby with the secure beginning on July 1, 2026 and ending at June 30, 2027 and providing for the payment collection of such taxes and penalties that interest they're on and describing the purpose for which the taxes so collective shall be appropriate and used it says the ad valorum tax on real property at the rate of 0.193.3.3.3.3.3.3.3.3.3.3.3.3.3.3.3.3.3.3.3.3.3.3.3.3.3.3.3.3.3.3.3.3.3.3.3.3.3.3.3.3.3.3.3.3.3.3.3.3.3.3.3.3.3.3.3.3.3.3.3 67 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:26,020 $200 and the ad value tax on all personal property at the rate of 0.5, $34 for each $100 and these are both significantly lower than the compensating rate, and I don't want to take the mayor's thunder away on that one. 68 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:27,320 All right. Thank you, sir. 69 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:37,080 All right, yes, as Mr. Gattle mentioned, yes, these are lower than compensating rate, our calculated compensating rate for the real property rate was 0.205. 70 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:44,360 We were currently at 0.194 and the recommendation is to go down to 0.193. 71 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:49,580 So it is a modest draw, but it continues our trend of dropping the tax rate. 72 00:07:50,620 --> 00:07:55,240 We take a hard look as we do every year before coming to you with this recommendation, you 73 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,240 know, projecting out five years and cool disclosure. 74 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:03,600 This does put us, projection wise, does put us into the red in the coming years, but 75 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:07,960 we're with the new business that we have coming online, projected growth. 76 00:08:08,660 --> 00:08:16,160 I feel like this is something we can handle and, yeah, still not, yeah, so be a good shape, 77 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:19,160 but I'll be honest, I wrestle with a little bit. 78 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:22,480 It's, you know, it's, we've kept cutting and cutting, 79 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:24,340 but I feel comfortable going this, 80 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:26,200 but I wouldn't feel comfortable going any further than that. 81 00:08:26,660 --> 00:08:27,820 As far as the tangible rate, 82 00:08:27,980 --> 00:08:29,080 this is a bit of an anomaly. 83 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:34,820 So our comp rate on the tangible is 0.757, 84 00:08:34,820 --> 00:08:36,820 and we are currently at 0.534. 85 00:08:38,580 --> 00:08:40,680 And our finance director Gibson and I, 86 00:08:40,860 --> 00:08:42,640 Mr. Morkoni, have discussed it extensively. 87 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:44,900 This is an anomaly. 88 00:08:45,260 --> 00:08:47,780 We had one large company that didn't file 89 00:08:47,780 --> 00:08:52,720 until after the deadline, which just really skewed the numbers and calculating a 90 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:57,220 comfort rate. This is always a bit of a wild card number. It has so much to do with 91 00:08:57,220 --> 00:09:02,520 inventory on hand in businesses and it's a self-reported number. So it can kind of 92 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,720 jump all over the place. I've had conversations with business owners over the 93 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:10,220 years that that rate jumping around really have an impact on them. So it's 94 00:09:10,220 --> 00:09:14,120 something that I really, you know, try not to just over-react to knowing that 95 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,160 the data that goes into it, goes into that 96 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,740 concrete calculation is not particularly reliable. 97 00:09:20,060 --> 00:09:21,960 So that's the reason for the massage. 98 00:09:22,300 --> 00:09:23,580 You know, keep that rate the same. 99 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:26,960 It is not nearly as scary as the difference 100 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:30,620 between point 757 and point 534 suggests. 101 00:09:32,900 --> 00:09:35,200 Yeah, with that, I don't know if there's any discussion 102 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:38,200 or well, good. 103 00:09:41,260 --> 00:09:44,880 It's funny because the point 193 was what I proposed last year. 104 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:49,080 nobody liked. So I, you know, I should have copyrighted it and he could have used it 105 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:54,600 this year, but yeah. Well, they were trying to take proof of steps in that direction versus 106 00:09:54,600 --> 00:10:00,480 leaps would be the only mildly. Yeah, because I, you know, I wanted 193 instead of 194 last year. 107 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:09,040 And so now we're, now we're doing 193. So last year the way I was sounded was like Armageddon would 108 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:14,140 come up. We didn't do, we didn't 193 instead of 194 from the comments I got about it. 109 00:10:14,140 --> 00:10:20,980 and it will be in debt, it has to raise taxes in five years and it's what I thought was 110 00:10:20,980 --> 00:10:29,960 overreacting but it's nice to see it go we're actually giving the folks an actual tax cut 111 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:36,900 this year. I think I think we've done that pretty consistently. We've cut the rate, we've 112 00:10:36,900 --> 00:10:43,180 We've got the rate consistently, but this year is an actual, it's minimal, but it is an 113 00:10:43,180 --> 00:10:51,320 actual tax cut, you know, since it says, you know, the decrease of $2 for a $240,000 114 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:56,840 home, yeah, it's not, it's not meaningful, but it is a technically a cut. 115 00:10:57,300 --> 00:11:01,080 Well, Mayor, didn't we lower the rate last year, did we cut the rate last year as well? 116 00:11:01,460 --> 00:11:01,600 Yeah. 117 00:11:01,980 --> 00:11:04,020 Yeah, we've consistently lower the rate as you're pointed. 118 00:11:04,020 --> 00:11:11,640 Yeah, but what even the assessment change offsetting the assessment changes or yes, yeah, so it's actually 119 00:11:12,780 --> 00:11:19,020 You know, I mean it was a cut last year as well. So just wasn't and this is another kind 120 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:20,640 so 121 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:26,980 Yeah, and I want to clarify that with director Gibson the these projections for the 122 00:11:27,580 --> 00:11:29,540 average on the base on average home value 123 00:11:29,540 --> 00:11:36,500 to, yeah, this is just the difference in a, okay, I'm sorry, the increase in the prior 124 00:11:36,500 --> 00:11:37,020 year, yeah. 125 00:11:37,380 --> 00:11:39,200 So yes, the $2 drop in that, right? 126 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:45,040 Our major change, and we had our reassessment year or two ago, and that was last year. 127 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:46,920 Yeah, we couldn't reassess. 128 00:11:47,100 --> 00:11:52,060 We tried to compensate for as much of that as we could, but yes, yeah, so, yeah, that's 129 00:11:52,060 --> 00:11:55,660 it on the average home price, right, we give you a modest decrease. 130 00:11:55,660 --> 00:11:59,700 I think last year wasn't $194,000 for the compensating rate. 131 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:02,620 I don't think I was at it. 132 00:12:04,020 --> 00:12:05,720 But that was also a cut. 133 00:12:06,100 --> 00:12:06,940 It was still a reduction. 134 00:12:07,420 --> 00:12:08,580 Yeah, it was still a reduction. 135 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:10,840 Yeah, I think it was a fairly significant reduction. 136 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:13,820 But this year we're actually going below the compensating rate, which is. 137 00:12:14,660 --> 00:12:17,900 What was the rate prior to that? 138 00:12:18,740 --> 00:12:22,280 I know last year's rate is the lowest we had been since 2006. 139 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:33,040 2.20 for Chelsea. I'm sorry. 2.20 for Chelsea. So we went from 2.20 to 0.194. We went from 2.20 to 140 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:37,240 1.94. So that was pretty significant cut last year to help with the assessment increase. 141 00:12:46,530 --> 00:12:47,090 At the end 142 00:12:47,090 --> 00:12:49,990 of the day, you see here we've got all the roots here. 143 00:12:54,560 --> 00:12:55,000 We were, 144 00:12:58,110 --> 00:13:00,230 yeah, last year obviously the 0.194, 145 00:13:00,230 --> 00:13:06,810 prior to that, we were, our doctorate was a 0.22. We had held that 0.22 for a few years, 2021. We 146 00:13:06,810 --> 00:13:12,870 We were 0.244, 2020 0.271 for the previous several years. 147 00:13:13,690 --> 00:13:18,030 So yeah, we've gone a long way from a 0.271 down to a- 148 00:13:18,030 --> 00:13:20,750 Planum was for significant cut last year than even this year. 149 00:13:21,010 --> 00:13:26,190 Yeah, I mean, that was the 2-2-2-1-9-4 was a substantial decrease. 150 00:13:27,350 --> 00:13:31,030 Yeah, that's the most substantial, I think we pay a percentage wise. 151 00:13:32,390 --> 00:13:35,270 And we did that because we knew our rights property was getting 152 00:13:35,270 --> 00:13:39,790 Right. It was tribespricks. I don't know why we're going over another 153 00:13:40,590 --> 00:13:46,250 tax decrease. Right. Right. I mean that was that week. We endeavor last time to 154 00:13:46,250 --> 00:13:50,050 the hard work at what the impact of the reassessants and tried to eat up as much as 155 00:13:50,050 --> 00:13:53,090 that gap. We were called. We kind of walked through the massive 156 00:13:53,090 --> 00:13:56,390 injuries we've had over the last 10 years and police salaries, 157 00:13:56,630 --> 00:14:00,250 parks and recreation, roads and so on. And we were also in the middle of building a 158 00:14:00,250 --> 00:14:03,310 1.5 million on our splash pad. We weren't sure it was going to get a budget. 159 00:14:04,910 --> 00:14:11,410 And that really is, that's a lot of the reason that I'm inclined to not, I mean, proves 160 00:14:11,410 --> 00:14:13,670 generally dictates, don't get too carried away. 161 00:14:14,750 --> 00:14:17,570 But you know, we do have the splash pads still not known. 162 00:14:18,090 --> 00:14:20,510 We don't know what our maintenance costs are not going to be. 163 00:14:20,730 --> 00:14:25,030 We've only been in an operation for a couple of months here, so that's certainly one of 164 00:14:25,030 --> 00:14:25,310 the things. 165 00:14:25,390 --> 00:14:26,650 And we've got a few other wild cards in here. 166 00:14:26,910 --> 00:14:32,730 We've got the arm standing is the state is, are going to quit salting B and C roads. 167 00:14:32,730 --> 00:14:37,830 We have a lot of B and C roads of the city and it may fall upon us to take care of those those roads as well 168 00:14:37,830 --> 00:14:40,730 So we're not sure where that one's gonna pan out at the end 169 00:14:41,710 --> 00:14:46,290 The 536 is that gets completed if you recall we had decided the 170 00:14:47,150 --> 00:14:50,790 We liked the grass island and the night and the green space in between them 171 00:14:50,790 --> 00:14:54,670 But the way the state agrees to that one is if we agree to maintain it 172 00:14:54,670 --> 00:14:59,970 So we're gonna pick up a lot of extra Boeing along these new sections of 536 are coming online. I think it's worth it 173 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:22,440 Looks a lot nicer than a concrete meeting or a gravel median or a weed median as the case may be. Yeah, just riding things as we grow, but that's why I'm thinking on the point 193. What are the, what are considered the BNC road that be like independence road? I'd have to look at a list, but yes, it's going to be Oliver road probably. 174 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:28,340 It seems to be heading in that direction. 175 00:15:28,340 --> 00:15:32,240 So that's the state that's not going to solve it. 176 00:15:33,100 --> 00:15:34,940 I haven't confirmed that yet. 177 00:15:35,220 --> 00:15:37,000 It's on what we're hearing. 178 00:15:37,300 --> 00:15:38,200 Yeah, go ahead. 179 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:42,300 I'm waiting on to confirm what I've heard from other cities. 180 00:15:42,780 --> 00:15:44,380 So they're going to plow what they're not going to solve? 181 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:45,560 I don't know. 182 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:46,600 I don't have a confirmation. 183 00:15:46,780 --> 00:15:48,940 Yeah, this is all, this is all. 184 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:52,560 Here's say that's going around right now, but we've seen the direction. 185 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:56,440 It's gone in the last few years with the state's highway budget. 186 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:59,180 So it's a real listening scenario. 187 00:15:59,540 --> 00:16:02,280 Other cities that get their salt from the state, 188 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:03,520 we get ours from the county, 189 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:05,620 but they said that they're cutting back 190 00:16:05,620 --> 00:16:11,560 and not going to do B and C roads, whatever that means. 191 00:16:11,740 --> 00:16:14,380 But I'm waiting to hear that from Bob Yeager. 192 00:16:15,540 --> 00:16:16,980 I'm waiting back to hear back from him. 193 00:16:18,380 --> 00:16:20,420 I've heard nothing of this, it's not my department. 194 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:21,040 No, I don't. 195 00:16:22,180 --> 00:16:23,440 I always look at you, can you? 196 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:25,220 I assume you know everybody out there. 197 00:16:29,860 --> 00:16:37,920 Yeah, but other cities that get their salt it told me that the state when that salt bin on 3L is done for the winter 198 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:43,880 That's it. It's not getting refilled. So I don't know what that means. I'm waiting to hear back 199 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:55,120 Again, we don't know it's just my my point of that is not the doom and gloom. It's just that we hate we have some some question marks out 200 00:16:55,220 --> 00:16:58,120 There are so prudent stick pates, we don't want to go crazy. 201 00:16:59,140 --> 00:17:03,040 I look at the five-year projections and on that trajectory, 202 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:06,320 yeah, it would be working ourselves potentially into a hole. 203 00:17:06,580 --> 00:17:07,960 We could leave some of these things come to fruition. 204 00:17:10,580 --> 00:17:11,620 We're at much, 205 00:17:13,810 --> 00:17:16,970 we suffer through inflation as much as everybody else does, 206 00:17:17,190 --> 00:17:20,470 fuel prices, cost the labor, cost the materials, everything else. 207 00:17:20,610 --> 00:17:25,090 If we can still do a tax decrease, even if it's small, 208 00:17:25,090 --> 00:17:31,350 I think we're doing everybody in the city a sought like it's it's good for our citizens. It's good for business 209 00:17:31,350 --> 00:17:33,030 Good for everybody 210 00:17:35,030 --> 00:17:35,630 Any 211 00:17:37,810 --> 00:17:38,770 other discussion? 212 00:17:39,270 --> 00:17:41,810 All right. Well, that is just the first reading so 213 00:17:42,410 --> 00:17:44,250 No action is necessary 214 00:17:45,990 --> 00:17:51,670 Next item business is to a for concrete bid for the year for the school year 215 00:17:51,670 --> 00:17:52,490 Good 216 00:17:58,090 --> 00:17:59,530 somebody caught it 217 00:18:08,230 --> 00:18:12,390 All right, Mr. Mourconi, you are a bidmeister. 218 00:18:12,830 --> 00:18:14,070 You run with this one. 219 00:18:14,210 --> 00:18:16,090 Yeah, I'm somewhat of an expert on concrete. 220 00:18:19,590 --> 00:18:21,530 So these two... 221 00:18:23,090 --> 00:18:24,570 You see, I'm a bidmeister. 222 00:18:25,210 --> 00:18:25,670 I'm an expert. 223 00:18:25,870 --> 00:18:28,010 I mean, you're very good at this. 224 00:18:28,230 --> 00:18:28,590 Thank you. 225 00:18:28,590 --> 00:18:29,310 I appreciate it. 226 00:18:30,310 --> 00:18:30,950 That's a compliment. 227 00:18:31,310 --> 00:18:31,770 That's a compliment. 228 00:18:31,770 --> 00:18:32,930 That's a hundred percent compliment. 229 00:18:33,270 --> 00:18:33,890 Did, myster. 230 00:18:34,010 --> 00:18:35,050 I kind of like that. 231 00:18:35,170 --> 00:18:35,890 I'm going to run with that. 232 00:18:35,950 --> 00:18:36,230 But anybody. 233 00:18:36,850 --> 00:18:42,110 So, our public services director, Mr. Ken Hicks, these are both bids are basically the same. 234 00:18:42,450 --> 00:18:46,050 What we really depend on is that 5,4,000 psi. 235 00:18:47,150 --> 00:18:51,110 So the hometown concrete and Ernst are the same on what we use. 236 00:18:51,350 --> 00:18:57,090 So Jack, I think didn't one year last year we did a bid to accept both of them. 237 00:18:57,190 --> 00:18:57,330 Yes. 238 00:18:57,330 --> 00:19:11,710 Yeah, dual case ones busy, so you know council can just pick one or the other but we would like for you to pick both of them because that way we don't have to get in any trouble going over the minimum bid requirement. 239 00:19:11,930 --> 00:19:16,930 So if council can accept both bids that keeps things flowing internally. 240 00:19:16,930 --> 00:19:19,530 Did that work out pretty well last year with having both of them? 241 00:19:19,830 --> 00:19:23,970 I think we did both of these companies for the same. 242 00:19:24,690 --> 00:19:27,390 And I just want to say, as an aside, I want to thank you for saying, 243 00:19:27,410 --> 00:19:29,770 Bidmeister, because now all I've got is that stupid song, 244 00:19:29,930 --> 00:19:31,030 Keep Meiser in my head. 245 00:19:31,110 --> 00:19:31,250 Yes. 246 00:19:32,650 --> 00:19:33,570 That's a great song. 247 00:19:33,990 --> 00:19:34,130 Yeah. 248 00:19:35,070 --> 00:19:36,490 So anyway, please just look. 249 00:19:36,990 --> 00:19:37,090 Yeah. 250 00:19:37,870 --> 00:19:41,910 We would, the bidmeister would like for you all to do a motion 251 00:19:41,910 --> 00:19:44,210 to accept both of them. 252 00:19:45,490 --> 00:19:49,190 I'll make that motion to accept to earn stand hands on concrete. 253 00:19:49,310 --> 00:19:49,730 Second. 254 00:19:50,250 --> 00:19:50,970 It's got a motion. 255 00:19:51,110 --> 00:19:52,010 Councilmember Francis. 256 00:19:52,290 --> 00:19:52,490 Second. 257 00:19:52,630 --> 00:19:53,510 Councilmember Stefan. 258 00:19:54,650 --> 00:19:55,330 Any other discussion? 259 00:19:56,250 --> 00:19:57,190 All right. 260 00:19:58,530 --> 00:19:59,810 Hearing none, all in favor. 261 00:20:00,070 --> 00:20:00,970 Signify by saying aye. 262 00:20:01,450 --> 00:20:01,770 Aye. 263 00:20:02,250 --> 00:20:02,890 Opposed nay. 264 00:20:03,710 --> 00:20:04,890 That motion carries unanimously. 265 00:20:05,230 --> 00:20:05,610 Thank you. 266 00:20:06,470 --> 00:20:07,190 All right. 267 00:20:07,430 --> 00:20:09,770 And that does complete our business for this evening. 268 00:20:10,690 --> 00:20:12,930 Attorney Gatlin, have you anything to report? 269 00:20:12,930 --> 00:20:16,170 No, nothing other than we need the executive session, Mayor. 270 00:20:16,690 --> 00:20:17,030 All right. 271 00:20:17,670 --> 00:20:20,030 Mr. Worker, yes, Mayor. 272 00:20:20,270 --> 00:20:24,390 So the, the, the county road at the welcome sign in the four lane 273 00:20:25,610 --> 00:20:28,130 continues to come up in various discussions. 274 00:20:28,810 --> 00:20:32,850 So we, I'm recommending we fix it ourselves. 275 00:20:33,030 --> 00:20:37,970 I have a bid and that little smaller area that's such a mess, 276 00:20:38,570 --> 00:20:41,370 the bid would go down to four inch depth repair 277 00:20:41,370 --> 00:20:42,690 versus the standard, too. 278 00:20:43,610 --> 00:20:45,890 We have the money in the budget to do it. 279 00:20:46,130 --> 00:20:47,170 It's independent's paving. 280 00:20:47,270 --> 00:20:48,830 We don't really need a motion or anything. 281 00:20:48,990 --> 00:20:54,670 I'm just, it's $14,600 for us to go ahead and have it done. 282 00:20:55,410 --> 00:20:58,170 Because it seems like we've been talking about that section 283 00:20:58,170 --> 00:20:58,990 for six months. 284 00:20:58,990 --> 00:20:59,790 It's a bunch, yeah. 285 00:21:00,190 --> 00:21:01,250 Can we send the bill to the state? 286 00:21:02,630 --> 00:21:02,950 No. 287 00:21:03,650 --> 00:21:05,050 I mean, we just fixed it. 288 00:21:05,450 --> 00:21:06,630 And I mean, this kind of a little bit of, 289 00:21:07,350 --> 00:21:08,890 you know, if you think about that intersection, 290 00:21:08,910 --> 00:21:10,330 there's going to be a lot of traffic control 291 00:21:10,330 --> 00:21:12,690 because people are coming up, taking a ride. 292 00:21:13,410 --> 00:21:14,690 So it's got a little bit of hair on it. 293 00:21:14,750 --> 00:21:16,330 It's not just a simple mill and overlay. 294 00:21:16,450 --> 00:21:18,010 We've got to have flaggers and all that. 295 00:21:19,410 --> 00:21:21,430 And we still have to get an encroachment permit 296 00:21:22,170 --> 00:21:23,350 from District 6. 297 00:21:23,790 --> 00:21:25,830 So it's not like it's going to happen tomorrow, 298 00:21:25,830 --> 00:21:28,910 but I guess Mayor just wanted to let everybody know. 299 00:21:29,130 --> 00:21:32,450 We can fix it ourselves and probably get it done quicker internally. 300 00:21:32,810 --> 00:21:34,490 It's probably best just to do it. 301 00:21:34,870 --> 00:21:36,610 I agree it's probably a plus just to do it. 302 00:21:36,730 --> 00:21:38,870 It's kind of one of those things 303 00:21:38,870 --> 00:21:42,930 are we just going to keep fixing their problems. Now we've got to plow their roads. Now we've got to 304 00:21:42,930 --> 00:21:48,970 salt their roads. Now we've got to fix their roads. I mean, why do we pay taxes to the state? 305 00:21:49,970 --> 00:21:54,290 It would be kind of down there. They're working on getting that income tax down to zero. 306 00:21:54,770 --> 00:21:57,370 Yeah, yeah. Work on that fast or T.J. Robert? 307 00:22:00,050 --> 00:22:05,270 I'm going to be called out on Facebook now. Yeah, but I just bring this up. I know Tom, 308 00:22:05,270 --> 00:22:35,250 We talked about it. Yeah, I a lot. I've asked you probably every month. Yeah, and I can remember. So yeah, I appreciate it and I can say it's not, you know, it's something it says to be done for the convenience of the safety of our citizens. Yeah, I think it's beyond just cold patch. Yeah, and the company independence paving that looked at it. They're going down to four inch depth repair. It's it's pretty bad. Just milling the surface really won't fix it. So it's a little bit of construction to it, but it'll be done. It'll be done right and we won't be having 309 00:22:35,250 --> 00:22:40,930 discussion in December if we're still waiting. So there's no plans to do 310 00:22:40,930 --> 00:22:45,770 anything to the the new and the old sections like for they're going to 311 00:22:45,770 --> 00:22:48,650 tear that up anytime like we're going to do it and in six months they're 312 00:22:48,650 --> 00:22:54,270 going to start working on the road and tear that up which part we're I guess it 313 00:22:54,270 --> 00:22:59,830 would be a business 17 meets the new 17 in that inner section. Yeah that's that's 314 00:22:59,830 --> 00:23:04,030 what I'm referring to. Right I know but what I'm saying is there's no plans 315 00:23:04,030 --> 00:23:07,870 for the police to start working on either one of those routes where they're going to tear 316 00:23:07,870 --> 00:23:09,030 up what we've just done. 317 00:23:09,270 --> 00:23:13,570 Oh, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't know why I'm going to fix it. 318 00:23:13,870 --> 00:23:17,030 Not that they've told us, but you don't have to tell us anything, it's quite much. 319 00:23:18,550 --> 00:23:23,850 Well, the, it's the, you know, Oliver at, uh, Fallon Creek is just deteriorating, it's still 320 00:23:23,850 --> 00:23:24,790 deteriorating badly. 321 00:23:26,570 --> 00:23:30,310 The, um, the, uh, the, uh, PFC, Force Friction Code, that's there. 322 00:23:30,810 --> 00:23:31,090 Yeah. 323 00:23:31,090 --> 00:23:37,950 Yeah, that's it's it's going to pieces. Yeah, I'll check with that. I have that was on my radar about a month ago. 324 00:23:38,570 --> 00:23:43,230 Yeah, thanks. Can I ask this question into the city minister's report? 325 00:23:44,710 --> 00:23:49,810 The Cody road, I got a couple questions today about when I know that you contacted 326 00:23:50,830 --> 00:23:57,210 Alta Fiber, and I know we don't have any control, but you heard from Alta Fiber when they might fix that tree that's hanging on the line. 327 00:23:57,550 --> 00:23:58,790 Is that still there? Yeah. 328 00:23:58,790 --> 00:24:00,390 Yeah, I was at 3 o'clock this afternoon. 329 00:24:00,750 --> 00:24:01,590 Oh, I'm shocked. 330 00:24:02,110 --> 00:24:08,330 I talked to him on Friday and gave him the poll number and told him that it was an emergency 331 00:24:08,330 --> 00:24:11,450 and school buses were blah, blah, blah and they said they'd get somebody. 332 00:24:11,850 --> 00:24:13,490 Honestly, I thought I was taking care of. 333 00:24:14,010 --> 00:24:15,210 I can't believe it's not fair. 334 00:24:15,530 --> 00:24:18,810 I got a text from a son parent that said it was as a 3 o'clock this afternoon. 335 00:24:18,810 --> 00:24:19,530 It was still there. 336 00:24:20,370 --> 00:24:20,670 Okay. 337 00:24:21,910 --> 00:24:23,010 I'll find out tomorrow. 338 00:24:23,010 --> 00:24:28,750 I honestly, I was just the way they taught them because they would need it that utility 339 00:24:28,750 --> 00:24:29,270 pole. 340 00:24:29,490 --> 00:24:35,030 There was a plate on there and we got on both numbers and I told them that school buses 341 00:24:35,030 --> 00:24:35,930 are having concerns. 342 00:24:36,210 --> 00:24:36,770 It won't go under. 343 00:24:36,930 --> 00:24:41,730 They're kind of going around it and the only thing holding that tree up is the fiber optic 344 00:24:41,730 --> 00:24:42,390 cable. 345 00:24:43,330 --> 00:24:46,530 But my shock, it's Monday and it's still up. 346 00:24:46,890 --> 00:24:49,290 I thought they were going to get out there Friday based on what she told me. 347 00:24:49,850 --> 00:24:50,270 Wow. 348 00:24:50,830 --> 00:24:51,150 Thanks. 349 00:24:56,510 --> 00:24:57,630 That's all I have to say. 350 00:24:57,630 --> 00:25:02,630 All right. Thanks, sir. All right. I don't really have anything other than, uh, we'll 351 00:25:02,630 --> 00:25:07,530 post it on Facebook. The, uh, dreaded flock cameras are coming down. They are down. 352 00:25:08,030 --> 00:25:12,650 They were deactivated. We've talked to the company. We have taken down the, uh, the cameras 353 00:25:12,650 --> 00:25:17,210 themselves. Our crew got out there today, took the cameras off the poles. There are no cameras. 354 00:25:17,570 --> 00:25:24,150 The poles and the, uh, the, uh, what we call the solar panels. Yeah. They're still in place. 355 00:25:24,570 --> 00:25:30,330 We don't want to risk damaging and paying more money than we already have to and there's I don't see any urgency in that one 356 00:25:30,810 --> 00:25:35,690 There's the company can come and get that I think they tell us within the next couple weeks 357 00:25:35,690 --> 00:25:39,430 Those have been gone, but you can clearly see there are no cameras on there 358 00:25:39,430 --> 00:25:44,550 So that is taken care of that's really all I have a one question about that 359 00:25:44,550 --> 00:25:51,350 There's been some questioning about the funding for that now that was never a particular line item in our budget for the flock cameras 360 00:25:52,170 --> 00:26:00,330 It's part of their general budget, so that money can be allocated, it was listed in the 361 00:26:00,330 --> 00:26:01,250 budget as a block. 362 00:26:01,430 --> 00:26:02,970 But yes, it can be reallocated. 363 00:26:03,050 --> 00:26:03,770 We don't have any money. 364 00:26:04,810 --> 00:26:10,130 We've spent that money going forward, I don't think, correct me if I'm wrong, Rachel, 365 00:26:10,270 --> 00:26:12,090 but we don't. 366 00:26:12,250 --> 00:26:14,270 It's what we'll be funding in the future, right? 367 00:26:14,490 --> 00:26:16,310 I mean, we don't anticipate any refunds. 368 00:26:17,090 --> 00:26:17,470 Correct. 369 00:26:17,890 --> 00:26:18,090 Correct. 370 00:26:18,090 --> 00:26:24,510 So yeah, going forward we won't we won't be funding those contracts and potentially additional cameras going forward 371 00:26:24,510 --> 00:26:28,830 Okay, I think that was people's general concern is that we were going to turn around and do this again with another company 372 00:26:28,830 --> 00:26:34,210 But there is no funding available and we have no intent to do that. Yeah. Okay. Any of that would go by you 373 00:26:36,170 --> 00:26:40,320 Okay, thank you. All right 374 00:26:41,360 --> 00:26:44,980 With that is turning out and said we do have need for 375 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:47,740 Executive session I would entertain a motion 376 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:56,790 I make a motion to go an executive session based on carers per litigation. 377 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,040 61-810-C. 378 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:01,360 I agree with you, Mr. President. 379 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:02,940 All right. 380 00:27:03,020 --> 00:27:05,520 I've got a motion from Councilmember Francin. 381 00:27:05,740 --> 00:27:07,860 A second from Councilmember Wade. 382 00:27:08,740 --> 00:27:09,960 All in favor, sigma. 383 00:27:10,100 --> 00:27:10,580 I say aye. 384 00:27:10,900 --> 00:27:11,100 Aye. 385 00:27:11,700 --> 00:27:12,300 Opposed nay. 386 00:27:13,300 --> 00:27:14,860 We are an executive session. 387 00:27:16,020 --> 00:27:17,120 And we'll come back out. 388 00:27:18,020 --> 00:27:18,600 Yeah. 389 00:27:22,220 --> 00:27:23,000 We don't anticipate any harm. 390 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,400 in the action coming out of this session. 391 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,200 All in favor signify by saying aye. 392 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:34,820 Aye. 393 00:27:35,980 --> 00:27:36,600 All right. 394 00:27:36,980 --> 00:27:37,660 We have motion. 395 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,280 We have your motion from Councilmember Locable. 396 00:27:41,260 --> 00:27:42,040 Second from the right here. 397 00:27:42,340 --> 00:27:43,640 Councilmember Franzon. 398 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,440 All in favor signify by saying aye. 399 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:46,940 Aye. 400 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:48,520 We are adjourned. 401 00:27:48,740 --> 00:27:49,100 Thank you. 402 00:27:49,620 --> 00:27:49,920 We lost.