>> I will go ahead and start. Were not live yet. That's right. Okay, there we go.
all right, good evening ladies and gentlemen it's 5:10 and today is the 16th day of june.
this is a regular joint meeting of the city council/indio water authority/indio housing authority/successor agency to the redevelopment agency
of the city of indio. May I have a roll call please.
wish to be a part of the invocation please stand.
>> we have pastor rick salvadar from destiny church.
>> you may begin pastor.
>> pastor salvador you can convine the invocation.
>> maybe we will do the flag salute until you could bring him on?
>> councilmember miller do you want to do it?
>> yes I will. >> please put your hand over your heart and for all those who protected it
before. Please begin. >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america.
and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under god,
indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Amen.
>> is pastor salvador on? >> yes, hello counsil, hello there, sorry I had some technical
difficulties. Let's go ahead and pray. Dear heavenly father god we thank you so much for giving us this day for the
god. We thank you so much for messing us here in the city of indio.
we pray that you give good guidance to the council, the mayor, everything
that's on the agenda ather god let it be guided by you. Ask that you keep our residents safe those vulnerable a senior
citizens father god. We thank you as we move forward throughout our day.
bless this meeting in the name of jesus we pray, amen.
>> thank you very much. Okay, city attorney.
>> yes they keep meta-mirror. The city council successor agency medical session for the items listed there's no
reportable action. >> okay thank you very much. Let's see next item.
let me get there. Appointments, item number 5, 58 representative of the imperial aggression
district energy consumers advocacy committee.
who has that item? Do we have a candidate? >> did you see you or me?
>> great. Thank you mayor.
yes, we know that ormer city manager mark scott have served on this
committee previously. No longer able to serve as he has moved out of the area.
we are recommending that trish re-be appointed to serve in his stead.
we believe she will capably do so. >> absolutely. Okay.
I need a boat on that, correct? > sorry. >> we should take a vote on that also as part of the vote if you could provide
us direction to work with iid so that be representative of the city can also be somebody who is in the service area not necessarily a resident.
if you can move to appoint and recommend the appointment of trish ray also recommend that we work with iid so our appointment can be somebody who's in
the service area. And not a resident of the city. >> okay, I would like to make the motion to appoint trish ray to the iid
consumers advocacy committee with the caveat that we need to appoint someone who is not necessarily a resident but is in the service area.
>> if I can help you with that and to allow staff to work with iid to see if we
can either revise relations to allow that to happen. >> terrific him understood.
thank you very much. Okay. I made the motion.
>> I will second that motion. I need someone to set up on that meeting with me for 3 hours.
>> definitely. Okay.
they give us ray. Thank you. Now you have company.
all right, item number 6 report on city council external and internal
boards commissions, committee meetings etc. Let's see, let's start with
you councilmember miller. >> thank you mcnamara. Quite a few my committees are active.
the first one was see by executive committee.
one of our budget like all of our agencies were going over budget.
they have a balanced budget this year that they are presenting the new
financial officer for see fag is very good mr. Kilgore.
very detailed and so we are looking forward to passing the budget.
we are looking the internal audit that came back clean which is very nice for see
fag. To continue that to have clean audits. Thirdly we passed a agreement to the executive board to extend tom kirk's
contract starting july 1 for 5 years.
so we were able to get that accomplished. Lastly we will have the general assembly that will be on june 28 and it will
be virtual, this will be the last one. There are mel lawrenz from joey from life I don't know how tom's to get them out
to everybody. There will be mel lawrenz is always provided them for us.
that's great. It will be june 28 virtual general assembly for the whole area and we will be
passing the time for me being the chairman of the executive committee to
christie hostage of palm springs. She is in the queue to be a new chairperson.
>> terrific. >> exactly ecac I was on structured happy whose annex director for iid.
he won the last election. He is the vice president . He came to visit me as member of ecac.
also let us know that why the board of I am dana wagner went forward with a
resolution to protect the water and do their power to make a part of commission
because of chad mays's bill that he kept pushing out. He was also reminded me of stuff I forgot about too.
wanda garcia tried it once, john deutch waited runs. There's been other individuals that have tried to have a seat at the table
for iid. They do have a problem with the energy part of it.
what he says the water they own 40 percent of all the rights of colorado river which is the largest amount of rights of water in the united states and of the
colorado river. That's where protecting is the water. They did preemptive strike to make sure that is in case chad mays issues went
forward and he was able to get it. I guess it came out of th assembly at 79 â" 1 when it came out for his bill.
they want to make sure the power and water is separate. That's what they're doing this to want to come to the table with the city of
indio and the other agencies that they provide power to. They want to make sure to protect their water.
that was good on his part to come visit. There are looking at investing more.
they have no problem doing infrastructure. The looking about $600 billion worth of investment through the whole region.
they would probably bond for about 3rd of it. The rest it would take from the weight payers.
the rates will go up a little bit. They need to stay low and especially from where they are.
for the median income is very low. They know they gotta keep the rates down.
that residence with us because he can't do it by region.
if the rates are low for imperial valley there low for coachella valley.
they wanted to a commission, 6 members from the cities and agencies
that are around here. The one appointee by the county. Then one appointee for the tribe.
there will be a member 8 or 9 member board that would do cb commission based on entergy for our valley. What hear from not.
I'm sure the city manager will talk about an trish rate will to. A lot of stuff and things going on at ecac for iid.
the transfer the jph solid waystation behalf of the city of coachella we met the waste was resolved on a budget.
it was a formality with protect. We are about 40,000 tons more that we were before.
were up to about hundred 71,000 tons. We were at about hundred 31.
we are using a lot more waste and were not sure if a lot of it has to do with
stuff coming in through the landfill that's been recycled that's not just
waste that's been put in the landfill its total waste. Lot could be recycled and reused like wood and grass clippings and not.
but they also realize that the city of india is getting a lot bigger.
we are providing a lot more trash into the phils and for their stations.
we will be getting an extra $450,000 each year for the new agreement we did.
last time we were getting about 250,000. This next year will get 700,000 for the waste transfer station into our
budget. That is good news.
then on another note I was at the retirement for doctor donna salazar. She retired as the assistant superintendent of schools.
great lady for personnel. I was able to not only represent the center only does the city of indio.
very well attended. Great lady. I wish you the best in the city of if you give her a nice resolution and a plant
which she was very thankful for. I was excited because the culinary school from the city of la quinta, la
quinta high school has the culinary in the meat ice cream in 6 different
flavors I was able to enjoy. >> we have our priorities. >> I do have those.
I think the city manager. We talked the other day about working on miles park and he jumped into action.
he informed I think all of us somewhere that we have soccer nets going up.
we've read on the sparklers, thank you tim. That will will be able to see but we can do about bringing some kids in youth
and see if we could get into miles park if it works we can make some permanent
opportunities to be able to do that. It's great to see that we talked about it and we got some action on it.
let's see what we can do. Think it city manager and tim. Mr. Edgar here for all you do.
that's my report madame error. >> think very much hopefully the park will be filled with kids.
councilmember ortiz. >> think it where I have quite a few meetings these past 2 weeks.
this morning I to the board many for the coachella valley economic partnership.
we had an update from cod developments throughout the coachella valley and indio.
they are more than doubling the constructional space which addition of 2 new buildings.
the first building will include instructional space, lecture hall, cafã©, student service center, an outdoor pavilion.
the second building will be a childcare development center that can be used by members of the community.
our cod students will learn how to be teachers for young children. In palm springs are currently finishing the designs for the new
facility. And are expected to start construction within 2 years.
cathedral city there finishing designs for an advance automobile training facility where students will be able to get certificates related to the
automobile industry. That project is about 12 months away from getting construction.
there also worked with the city of coachella to offer courses in the new library near downtown.
also I attended the coachella valley association of governments energy environment committee.
made a presentation for patrick odell from assault and see authority explaining some of the decisions regarding the perimeter lake and other
short-term plans for the salt and see. As well as his opinions on water importation and the possibility of that going
forward in the future. We also had a presentation from her intern victoria west created a guidebook
for sustainable landscaping and the best ways to use plants in our designs to
improve our quality of life and improve our air qualit and minimize our energy
needs. She also finalizing climate action story map that will summarize the
sustainability projects happening throughout the valley.
see bag will send us copies of both of these projects when they are finalized
later this summer. Our committee voted to form a new committee to representatives from indio,
la quinta and coachella and uncomplicated area so we have a space to discuss
negotiations with iid as a power agreement comes to a close in 2033.
we should be getting some more information regarding the committee soon.
I also attended the energy and environment committee on june 3 for the southern
california association of governments. Get a few presentations. The first one was from the office of environmental health hazard assessment.
they recently released the draft for point out which is newest online map that
shows exposures to pollution throughout tenses trucks. Each census tract is given a score based on 4 factors which are exposures,
environmental effects, sensitive populations and social economic factors.
a new one they are tracking they just are tracking recently as exposure to lead poisoning among children.
the sites are but used by many nonprofits and government entities in the new version will be available in the summer of 2021.
our second presentation in a meeting was from socal edison regarding battery storage.
they are equipped with 15 times more energy storage this year. And confident their grade can handle the growth due to electric application of
buildings and vehicles going forward in the future. Also investing in hardening the grid to protect it against climate impacts.
I also met with councilmember miller on our jpa board for the waste
transfer station as he mentioned. We approved our annual budget and we will be having disbursements of
$700,000 coming to each city of indio and coachella. Also our contract with bird tech indicates we adjust our rates for gate fees by
the consumer price index. In adjust for any extra cost and so the gate fees are what we pay every time
as a resident will be going toward waste transfer station.
this year consumer price index went up 3 point 6 percent and the landfill
cost went up by $0.72 summer gate fee will increase this year from
$63.17 to $64.98.
a reminder to our residents that we do have free dumping for indio coachella residents on saturdays that are under waste transfer station.
that's all I have for today. Thank you. >> thank you, that's quite a bit councilmember amith.
>> thank-a-vet or I don't have any committee reports this evening paid.
>> okay, thank you. Okay thank you, near pro tem? >> I have a little bit so bear with me.
I will start off with my see bag public safety committee.
that was on monday the 14th enter the duration of the meeting we received your
update from the county and covid-19. As you know the state is fully reopened.
the longer you have a social distance, exercise capacity and restraint indoors and if you're fully vaccinated you do not have to wear masks of these
governance. We also are out of the color tier system appeared the county continues to
urge people to get vaccinated approximate 38% of people in riverside county have been fully vaccinated currently in riverside county.
the 41 related hospitalizations and including 9 nicus.
our numbers are extremely low. Were not out of this. But our numbers are looking pretty well.
we also have an update on the asylum-seekers. As we know it's been reported as of march the county began receiving
asylum-seekers from the border. The 7 seekers have been dropped off el centro, marietta and life.
they received asylum-seekers and provide transitional assistance as a folks make their way to family members and sponsors throughout the country.
as of now the county has received approximately 2000 people. The asylum-seekers are tested for covid-19 and if they test positive they
will be quarantined. If a person is negative or test negative they will receive wraparound services
in the county has allocated $750,000 for this program.
which will be seeking a full refund from the federal government. The funding will be divided between transitional housing, homelessness
prevention and workforce solutions in the callaloo center in it which provides
most of the services.
the people are usually a program for 2 to 3 days before continuing to their final destination to wait their hearings.
during the meeting we also discovered direction if any by the public safety committee on a topic of race diversity in policing in our community.
at the may meeting it was requested that our ad hoc committee meet to discuss
further actions the ad hoc committee consisted of john peã±a, hot springs
councilmember grace gardner who is due to the committee and myself merit pro tem
furman. The committee came to a consensus that each member shall return to the
respective jurisdiction. And measures of the particular communities and returned to the committee
with the report of those actions. I like to report the city of indio we have chief advisory committee.
we also have outreach event such as national night out and coffee with a cop which
gives residents opportunity of one-on-one conversation with her chief or designated staff or assistant chiefs and also pio.
they have made themselves also available during the peaceful demonstrations
this past year. I believe the report and community engagement will be optimal to mitigate
climate use of force incidents which keep her family safe.
also during the meeting we paid recognition to palm springs police chief brian reyes who is retiring at the for 27 years for the palm springs police
department.
and chief reyes was also a good part some of these discussions that happened
this past year. Congratulations to chief reyes. And, I also had homelessness committee meeting this morning.
we received the update on the cp 200. For those who don't know the cp 200 of the most contacted individuals who
are on our community streets who are chronic homeless and I have to
mention that tom cox is doing an excellent job this effect stuff is do an
excellent job with his housing initiative first and contacting some of
these folks. I've been around the city and I've run into individuals and I get the
contact information. Regular call, text or email tom cox or stuff in there right on it.
I even emailed tom cox old address and went to see the rescue mission.
they responded to the situation. We have a great collaborative effort as it pertains to homelessness in
our community. At such a complexed issue. So many different issues with each individual person.
it seems like were on the right path with his housing first initiative with see
bag. Also we discussed the future of the pump springs boxing club.
which is also through see bag as a overnight facility for some of her homeless
individuals in the western side of the valley. That lease is up on june 30 but there still discussion with palm springs counsel
and see bag furthering that if necessary. We had an update on some of that cooling centers in our community.
I'd like to add in the city of indio we have 3 cooling centers. River senior center which I believe will start on june 21.
that will be for seniors only. We also have cv rescue mission that has a cooling center and martha's village
and kitchen. Those are folks who may need to leave the residence to find a cool place to
hang out for a few hours and trigger air-conditioners down not utilize all those utilities in their houses.
especially during this ho summer months. When energy is going to be a crisis at this time.
that is great that were doing that and in our community.
also like to give a couple dates on some other things that are going on.
like I said I have a lot of moving pieces.
maybe that's the wrong phone. We just received information that congressman ruiz
successfully included a major indio info structure which is our miles
interchange into his august miles is on her mind for the park right that's good
news for the miles park. It's the monroe interchange.
I know folks always have inquiries about that.
I have to advise folks that these projects are so in-depth and take a long
time and in the incubation period for so long. This project has been in the works for a large amount of time.
to hear news that it we will possibly getting $20 million on the upwards of
$80 million project. That is great news. Thank the congressman everybody for their staff.
I also have to thank tim also in our ublic works crew because when we have
these projects would like to be shovel ready. I believe that's a tim uses. We go to the congressman or we go to our federal government or sacramento
and have developments and we have infrastructure projects that we'd like to
develop, are you ready to go in the fund is there. But what ready to go.
work shovel ready.
our staff is been working on this project for a good amount of time. Hats off to tim and his crew and before I conclude I'd also like to give out
the news that county riverside also going through the budget
proceedings and we just got news that supervisor perez secured $500,000 for our
riverside county national date festival to begin talks to start planning as well for 2022.
I'd been well spoken about that. That's part of her history. I believe that's her fabric and that's my favorite festival.
and so I'm looking forward to the return of the date festival in our community. Before say that a close ou I'm not saying it's returning but were getting
the $500,000 to start the planning. That will get us underway to getting it back going.
it's great to see that we are making some traction on getting back to some sort
of normalcy after this pandemic. That concludes my report madam mayor.
>> thank you very much. Assuming that the fair moves forward as I supported it as well.
you get to beat merit next year any good to be at the front of the parade as
mirror and that is just about one of the coolest things you can do. It will be a blast or you can ride a camel.
>> I'll tell you this. I will be in the truck but I won't have the clown what's his name?
harper can't ride with me. [laughter]. Also this harper some one my favorite clounds because he some of my favorite
movies the doors. I just found that out his in the end of that movie.
might get some love from me. >> there you go. Okay we look forward to the fair coming back.
I was happy to see those dollars for some the preplanning be
appropriated. Okay, couple of things here. First was the sea fag transportation committee meeting.
there some really great information in there. First of all talk about things that take a whole lot of time to really
germinate and come to fruition. Cb link. We waited for it to pull together then it started in cathedral city and it's
been living on town. Of course I guess we had a ribbon-cutting not to many months ago and up while
they're pouring concrete on the indio la quinta part of the cv link.
that's very exciting. From the perspective of exercise and people having bike trails and areas where
they can walk to the tourism component because eventually that will
stretch from palm springs down to coachella. It's a really great to have that here in the city of india.
we look forward to it its completion. One of the things we talked about was the coachella valley sand or corneal pass
rail. This kind of comes and goes. At the end of the day there are some statistics parts of the company has a second
busiest rail in the nation. And what were talk about something that starts in fullerton to downtown
riverside to palm springs to med valley. Right palm desert area to indio.
were talking amtrak, not the metrolink. There's some interesting reasons around that.
at the end of the date we need more truck capacity. Obviously with all the freight that comes back and forth.
they're not going to let loose of the 2 tracks they have that transports all
that freight. To us. We talk about the need for more truck capacity in order to keep the trains on
time. Ideally the passenger train would be one hour 39 minutes.
to go from fullerton to downtown riverside to palm springs to bid valley to
indio. Just to be continuing to work on that.
chest opens up our valley. To employment, to again tourism to visitors to history to a whole other
things. We hope that keeps on going. We do need that third track.
public comments come up ma 21 through july 6.
see the cv rail website and you can check on the date and leave comments and
support. A couple other random things. Major things. We approve the reimbursement agreement for the city of coachella for
grapefruit boulevard between leo clothing and the â" street.
for transportation improvements and so much. So much of the discussion was around the cv sandra corneal pass and it's
currently the stage of apparent the environmental dropped.
the other one was the coachella valley conservation commission.
you know there's really, we've cobbled together put together a fair amount of
land. Most recently 248 acres between highway 111 and I 10 and riverside county.
we just acquired additional acres near avenue 62. And as well and this in 42 acres in the santa cruz and san jacinto mountains.
these are areas where we can preserve our natural areas and her natural
beauty and natural trails. Part of the challenges though are things like some of the invasive species.
tamra's removal which has been in our desert for years and years and years
and as we know it just consumes enormous amounts of water.
and there is ongoing dollars spent for tamarisk removal. The tamarisk are very, very difficult and very expensive very
labor-intensive to remove. You leave a twig left and it grows back.
in the gallons upon gallons upon gallons, hundreds of gallons of water that it
consumes per hour per day is like I said is significant.
the bighorn sheep, that's native to our desert we continue to try to preserve
them. The fence continues to be put together. There had been agreements now the last piece of it with the folks down at pga
west in that segment so the bighorn sheep can be safe in their own native
environment. We are constant monitoring them. So they don't come off the hills into the streets and sometimes end up with
diseases and sometimes they end up being run over by vehicles and creates
challenges. Let's see. I think that's it really for the coachella valley conservation commission.
and then something I was on the phone call today. We talk about broadband an the need for broadband.
what we all need to do as councilmembers and as people out in the community
as we need to work with are simply folks in our state senators to continue to
advocate for broadband. There's a couple senate bills out there that are very, very important.
so we have broadband that reaches from those areas that are really challenged
so the kids don't have to sit and do their homework in a taco bell.
all the way up through the major portions of our city so we could become more
competitive. We can meet the needs of the current population as well as strong businesses
into our greater community specifically indio is at the top of my list.
but broadband is something that works best across the entire valley.
that something will need to advocate for. And, that ends my comments.
at this point. I think I got everybody covered and I can call on the city manager.
>> thank you, before it turned time over at the city attorney owner think
the vice mayor for press but she the cooling centers. We have open the lobbies of the city facilities based on the new opening up of
the covid regulations. There is still some confusion with regard to what's required of the
workplace. We hope that is resolved in the next few days so if you still see subsidy stop
wearing masks as pursuant to that confusion. Quite frankly based on the rules provide a bright cal osha.
with regard to the next city council meeting, the peter future city council meeting I want to turn time with the city attorney what she's learned and instigate
some direction for you for how you like to proceed.
>> thank you.
>> ann keil city manager appeared since the writing of this report that I provided the council a lot of things have changed. This is been a moving target.
the government has issued 2 executive orders of the first formalizes what he
has said and what went into effect yesterday which is the repeal of the estate home order and the color tiered system.
any state opposed restrictions and activities from that tiered framework have been eliminated.
as discussed in the report provided to the council.
second executive order he issued lists 61 executive actions that repeal amend
or replace many of the actions of the governor took throughout the pandemic.
as it relates to local government and the weight we've been conducting our
public meeting the provision suspending the brown act rules relating to teleconferencing will be repealed as of september 30, 2021.
so, as of that date if a councilmember or planning commissioner participates
by teleconference which we now know as zoom we will need to provide the
location of the teleconference location on the agenda. At that location where of that particular member is located has to be open to
the public and has to receive public comment. Essentially as of that date public agencies really are required to return back to
in person meetings that are open to the public. There are number of bills that are working through the legislature to provide
cities with the option of keeping a hybrid format. Including bills that mandate that we keep a virtual meeting for the
public and more to come on that as we keep an eye on those issues and those of
bills. As legislative season winds down in september.
also on friday the california state public health officer adopted a
new order after this report was drafted. That order requires all individuals to follow the guidelines that they've
issued for the use of face coverings. Which is described in the report and essentially as well no no masks are
required for vaccinated persons and masks are required for unvaccinated
persons and of course there are exceptions are listed in the report such as public transit in healthcare settings.
in terms of what the city manager just stated the interplay of these orders for the general public is a little bit different than that for the workplace.
as noted in the report cal osha to a 360 on their previous standards for the
workplace. They are meeting tomorrow. They have released their proposed rules unmasking and social distancing.
in the workplace. I'm pleased to report those now align with what has been adopted by the state
public health officer. The new rules if they are adopted tomorrow and recommended for adoption
they will eliminate the current regulation that are in place and this is why
all of us are messed in city hall. Those relations are from november which require masking and social
distancing. A few of the major changes to relative to the last series of proposed
revisions is not fully vaccinated employees will not have to wear face
coverings indoors including when unvaccinated coworkers are among them. Most physical distancing requirements have been deleted except if there is
a major outbreak in the workplace. Employers will be required to provide an enforced use of face coverings for
unvaccinated employees when indoors or in vehicles. Even though face coverings are not required employees, employers must provide
them to employees upon request. So the anticipation is that cal osha will adopt those recommendations and then it
goes to the office of administrative law who has 10 calendar days to adopt
them and we suspect they will go into effect towards the end of the month.
this changes a little bit the options I have laid out before.
and so as it relates to the recommendations now assuming that cal osha
adopts those new regulations, the question for the council really is
windows accounts want to reopen the chambers to the public for in person
meetings? We are on our summer schedule. We have meeting scheduled in july, when beatty july 21 and in august.
currently that's august 18 and then our meeting in september. We can still follow the relaxed, teleconference meeting rule until
september 30 but assuming cal osha rules online with what the state public
officer has adopted we are asking the council for direction as to when you
would like to reopen the chambers to the public. If you desire to reopen th chambers to the public prior to september 30 then
we ask you let staff implement the logistics such as signage.
providing height sanitizers and masks and logistics related to unvaccinated persons in protocol.
speaking to the city manager we anticipate that there still be some aspect
of zoom that will be retained it may become more permanent if the bills are
being considered are passed and adopted. Unable to answer any questions that the council may health.
>> they kill. That's quite a bit of information. Does anybody have a questions of our city attorney?
>> ideal. >> please. >> how will be verified if we open the chamber whose vaccinated and who's
unvaccinated? Is it a matter of privacy to asked people to prove that they are vaccinated?
>> so, the regulations now and I see andrew smiling at me across the room.
that can be self voluntarily were someone will say they are
vaccinated. And we can't ask for proof.
but, from members of the public and so it becomes on the honor system.
>> any other questions? Council member amith.
>> no, that was it. >> thank you. >> I might add that mirror.
the big thing would be a symptom check. At the door it should be opened the council to pursue the public we would
ask anyone who had any symptoms whatsoever covid related or not to watch
from home. And so that's probably the key to monitoring the door. Making sure there's a self check not only if they are vaccinated and wear a mask,
they can self policed out. We need to monitor and make sure no one has any symptoms whatsoever that's
in the chambers. That would cause an uncomfortable disruption and we would ask them to
watch from home. >> okay. What is a pleasure of the council?
we have a couple of options. Option one continued with the zoo meeting format employees only in chambers
until the new regulations are issued or option 2, continue the exhibiting
format that open chambers to public. As the city attorney said we had one meeting in july, one in august of one in
september and then we go back to full schedule in october. Some of these roles are going to be repealed as of september 30.
>> but that recommendation in the report little bit of a twist. We believe now that those cal osha regulations will be adopted which will
alleviate the concerns that I have written about with respect to cal osha in the
workplace because now you will have the workplace and the public. The rules will align with respect to masking a social distancing.
I think it's more fundamental in terms of when you would like to
reopen. >> okay. Yes? >> I'm gonna say I do like the idea of keeping the zoom going.
if we don't have the televised meetings anymore I think that helps for a
lot of people at home. I'm also open to opening the chambers as well.
I think we could do both. The one thing I was going to ask is would we be doing temperature checks at the
entrance? And the only thing that concerns me is that it's 118 degrees outside.
so if people are they going to test higher if they're coming in from the heat and
second to be a problem? >> that some of the logistics we fast that you let us work with city
manager and with andrew and with other department employees with respect to
that. I know some cities have kept temperature checks. Some cities have eliminated temperature checks.
it's different everywhere. I think having somebody at the door to do the questionnaire of have you
been in contact, etc. Do you have you been sick?
have you been coughing? It's something the city manager had mentioned about us doing.
>> and for personal experience I will tell you because I walked in from the heat into a clinic and that's the first thing they said was I have a
temperature less than 5 and is later in air conditioning I have not
been stiffly fax. >> what I'm hearing you sa is as you sort it could go either way we need to keep
the live broadcast going. But, really not a strong opinion one way or another whether or not we open the
chambers to the public or not? >> I would support opening it. Ask I agree with mr. Ortiz.
I do think we need to open the chambers up at the next meeting. I think we need to have zoom or some kind of presents for people that
don't feel comfortable or are not vaccinated can continue to do it.
I think staff should probably rather than essential staff should stay
"inside city hall" and watch us and monitors over the tv when their event
comes on or whatever they have to do if it's their presentation then they come
into the chambers and are able to do it then they go back out. That way they're not taking up any seats and we don't have to worry about
anything they can be protected and safe in their office watching. If we don't need and they could continue to go on about their business and go
home instead of sitting here for 2 or 3 hours listening to us.
>> okay, councilmember amith what is your thought? >> I'm in favor of opening the chambers as soon as management is ready.
I like to keep the zoom option as a community benefit.
for them to be able to participate from their homes.
>> thank you. And mayor pro tem could. >> I'm also in favor of keeping the zoom.
what I'd like to add is a small questionnaire at the door for the folks who are
coming in. Because if someone does happen to test positive at a later date we will have a
mechanism to track who's here for notification purposes. Because being that we are lifting some the regulations that doesn't
mean covid is still not upon us. We want to be able to contact folks and is voluntarily to come in to a
council meeting and second, we also still have ppe.
we can provide ppe at the door for folks who are still not comfortable not
wearing a mask. I think we could have ppe at the door and a small questionnaire to come in.
if you have any symptoms, your name and contact information in case we need
to contact you and I'm okay with opening the chambers under those guidelines.
>> I would agree. I thank you have consensus, yes I like to open the chambers, yes I like to
keep live streaming and zoom. And then we need some mechanism to really ensure it to the extent we can
without impingement on someone's personal rights to ensure they don't have
any physical issues or any of the symptoms. All 5 of us, to want to go big back to the business to be public.
>> madame mayor the planning commissioner and other commissioners my
assumption is this what also apply to them and so once the cal osha rules are
adopted and go into place that way we don't have issues with the police being in the same room with the public.
if a commission meeting would proceed your july meeting we would open the
chambers for those meetings. >> let me ask you something on the commission meeting this do any of the
commissioners come to city hall for the meetings or maybe a better question
isâ¦. >> no they don't. >> how to open it to the public with no live commissioners?
>> would you like us to assess the commission's depressed friends at the
next meeting? >> I think we want to avoid nobody on the dais with a room full of people.
>> I think the first meeting would be the city council meeting on the 21st.
we could find it with the planning commission would like to do with regard to their membership for subsequent meeting.
probably after the 21st. >> I disagree. Because I don't believe the commissions who are appointed by us should be
dictating if they come into the chambers or not. If are coming in the chambers and opening up then everybody comes in.
should be everybody in here we have the public coming have a planning commission
and were here in the planning commission isn't in the community service is.
it's chaos. If we open up it opens up to all of them my opinion. >> yes but the governor's role since we could be zoom until september.
we can't demand our commissions coming when the governors ordering us to
allow for zoom. >> somebody to call or connect with each of our commissioners and I hear
what you're saying. >> we expect with the until september 30 that there might be one or 2 members
of any legislative body that they may be doing the zoom meeting until
september 30. When we go back to the old rules. >> there has to be some mechanism.
you can open up and have a meeting with one person or zero percent here. How do we determine if any of the commissions if there's going to be
somebody sitting appear at the dais? How do we do without?
>> all bent will have the majority the commissions would want to be here.
maybe one or 2 as a city attorney says until september 30 that could
still attend virtually. After september 30 the expectation is that
everybody will be here. >> I do know speaking with our community development director mr. Schneider that
the developers have really wanted to provide and to their presentations here in
the chambers. It just facilitates being able to look at the boards and look at the different
elements of their projects. I know that that is one ask they have been making.
whether the council is okay with development community coming in even if there's
not a majority of the planning commission for example on the dais. Certainly staff will be here.
if thoughts, how do you feel about that or have any opinion or will you leave
it up to staff to facilitate that? >> it's kind of weird.
so the development community comes in with all their presentation boards and everybody and there's minimal people appear.
it feels kind of odd to me. That's just my â¦. >> I think when I hear you saying is that if the majority of the
commissioners are going to be the chambers and commit to that then we will be
opening up the chambers for those meetings. >> right, absolutely. Is everybody okay with that?
okay. >> at least there's a consensus without. >> yes there is.
>> thank you very much. >> thank you. I appreciate all the detail around that.
the answers are e-zines these days. >> no. >> item number 8 is there any public comments city clerk for items not on the
agenda? >> mayor we have jonathan â" on the line. Jonathan you have 3 minutes.
>> yes good evening madame mayor and members of the council. My public comment is specifically doing with access to grant production
opportunities in the city of indio. Further acts as the public spaces.
it can be summarized in this, why is there still no rfp for the tamale
festival? This is uniquely and culturally indio event and I have it on the 30th of the city has reached out for potential proposals from other organizations.
I don't know why the community hasn't been asked to participate in this? Why this is an open process why it's not a transparent process.
I personally have managed multiple infants to success and indio so I definitely
would've loved the opportunity to submit something. As someone who does events by know the time period to plan it successfully is
already shortened and significantly. It seems odd that it appears easier for city staff to facilitate these
types of events for their own personal businesses. We still have to facilitate a way for the overall community to have the same
ease of access. The tamale festival is to be done by public works.
there's no resident why a large organization needs to produce this.
that leads me to conclude I believe that the city of indio's practices of the
city of indio's staff are best and inconsistent. I believe 4 at a point where we need to do an internal equity review on
in relation to the city event staff practices and the policy or lack thereof.
I believe it should be done by 3rd independent party and quite frankly it's hard
not to feel that there's some sort of discriminator consequences to this type
of lack of transparency or lack of procedure or lack of openness to opportunity.
given how the event staff have handled this, the resident needs real
assurances beyond words that the current city practices do not result in
consequences that are either racist, homophobic, misogynistic or otherwise
inappropriately discriminatory. Every person here deserves a fair shot at the opportunity that indio has
specifically in regards to the tamale festival. That is so culturally relevant to the people and history and everything that
we strive to be here. It's just very disappointing and personally upsetting.
that still, the community can't get an opportunity to just use the opportunities
which we have had. I really encourage the council to at least explain to the community why this
is happening in the future or to set up some process as we been asking for the
past years to include more equitable practices as it relates to access to public
opportunities and public lands. >> your time is up. >> thank you.
>> thank you. Are there any other public comments?
>> no more comments mayor. >> thank you very much about to move on to number 9, the consent calendar.
does anyone wish to pull anything? I would like to pull item number e or do I hear a motion?
>> I like to pull item h. >> item h?
I'm sorry city clerk?
>> madame mayor I have one public comment for one item under consent.
and that is for 8j. >> okay. First okay thank you. >> it's john tosh.
our stone line john? >> yes hello.
>> or had your 3 minutes for this items well.
>> this is an extension. I really appreciate the community giving me opportunity access these
facilities and I want to extend that this is an opportunity that should be
promoted and given to other organizations who are not necessarily related to
religion. As I mentioned before I am a openly lgbtq individual in the city of indio and I
would like to see this opportunity spread to other kinds of spaces.
this is a good thing were doing for this organization but it's an opportunity that should be spread to others and other trauma nominations.
that's all. >> okay, thank you. Okay, at this point on the consent calendar item number e and item number h.
does anyone wish to pull any additional items? >> madame mayor it does need to be pulled on item j.
with that particular item the motion can be approved a month-to-month lease.
with destiny church of the form negotiated and approved by the city
manager and city attorney to incorporate revisions into the lease to allow for
rights of entry and revisions to facilitate a cell as part of the motion.
>> okay. >> thank you madame mayor. >> okay, do we want to make a motion to accept item e and h or discuss those 2
items? So the reason I want to pull out of e's construction contract with
cs legacy construction. When I pulled the information I noticed that in the number 2 position it
was in indio organization and I always like to look at local and trying to
provide business to local entities. So I know there is an explanation for this mr. Wassail can you provide it
so the public better understands what we have to work with.
>> so public works director for the city. If I understood the question correctly is his or her local preference for
indio? Yes. There is indeed a local preference which allows us to extend up to 10 percent
for purchases. However it when it comes to contracts that are conducted in accordance
with the public contracting code and labor code and albert municipal code we
are precluded from extending that preference and therefore even if it's
a dollar difference at the lowest bidder wins. So that's the answer to that.
ask if I can add to that and that's because it's a function of state law.
that exception is written in turn municipal court because under state law were required to issue the award the contract to the lowest responsible bidder.
>> responsible qualified bidder. In meets all the terms.
>> okay. Thank you. I don't number h believe there was council member amith that pulled item h.
>> okay, I had a bit of difficulty figuring out how the 195 came to be.
I took a look at the scope of services and I was wondering if a budget
matrix was provided that gives that breakdown. Also there was no comparison on what we've paid historically.
I don't recall if this $195,000 contract is in line with what we've paid
in the past. And then thirdly I just wanted to have a little bit more information about to
what extent the chamber is partnering or cooperating with seatback on the
business support. Guess I want to know more about to what extent is happening offered.
>> please, miss very. >> thank you, work very director and marketing.
let's go through one by one. Let's start with the last because it's the one I am remembering.
we also have on the phone as well if there are individual questions that
need to be asked of diana soto the interim ceo of the chamber of commerce. So, the chamber of commerce will work with seatback and represent the city of
indio with some communication with them. They've also reassured me that the eye hub that we pay for in conjunction with
the chamber of commerce will reopen so that it is available for people to use
at the chamber facility on indio boulevard.
does that answer your question councilmember amith or would you like additional clarification?
>> so how much of the budget is going towards that effort?
>> that was not itemized as part. That particular piece with regard to see fact was not itemized.
that is part of the business supports in the scope of services.
that includes a number of other things including education for local
businesses, walk-throughs etc. >> and the other 2 questions?
>> I'm sorry can you â¦.
>> reiterate them? >> the last years agreement I'm sorry the last years agreement this represent a
$45,000 increase over the last year. The budget was cut considerably last year because of the limitations
regarding in-person services at the visitor center. The chamber of commerce also instituted some furloughs so that led to
lack of staffing. On their part. Some realizations that in-person events would not be taking place.
this budget reflects a little bit more closely aligns with what we have
historically assigned with the chamber and 200,000 dollars is actually
allocated for this.
>> does the chamber still use the entire facility? Last I spoke with the previous ceo it was rarely used.
>> the visitor center is staffed now and is available in person.
in order to make sure that her visitors services were as robust as possible right now we also inserted a clause that where we state visitor center were
also talking about the discover indio website. Any services that are available in person at the location on indio boulevard
will not be fully supported via the website. >> but the in services visitor center is a small 10 by 10 area.
that's why I'm asking about the facility. >> so, if I can try to help jump in and clarified.
councilmember amith is when you walk in the front door that's where you have your business cards and whatnot then you have the rest of the offices is that what
you're trying to discern? The area where there are business cards and brochures and that kind of
thing is very small. However, I was just in the chamber, gosh a week or 2 ago and so the offices as a
whole being fully staffed support anyone who walks into the chamber and needs
assistance with anything from what's going on in the community to where do we
find something to eat to wear the white contact a real estate agent so on and
so forth. I'm jump again because I've been involved with the chamber for so many years
I'm sorry if her mom's stepping my boundaries? >> it's when pigs banded to the chamber of commerce they now service are not 3
or 4 communities and this is where all the stuff is manned out of and if so
then the benefit isn't 100 percent to indio.
>> if I could chime in. Diane soto with a greater phallic chip recovers.
thank you all for considering this contract of service once again.
to answer your question councilmember we have separate offices in separate cities.
the indio office is by far our largest as it has historically been.
the services are for the city of indio. We do have a separate office in coachella that services coachella in that
contract. The same for the ketek, the safer cathedral city and the same for desert hot
springs. >> so are you utilizing 10 percent of the building for indio?
>> that is correct. >> okay, thank you. I guess in the future like to see a matrix with the budget so that I can see
visually and a comparison to prior years rather than for me to try to figure out
from a narrative what comprises the total. >> understand.
yes absolutely. >> thank you. >> thank you that's been noted on my end as well.
>> all right. Any other questions? Of ms. Berry or any of the other consent calendar?
if not do I entertain a motion? >> before you take a motion on the chamber item noticed a typo on page 14
where the discover indio's city shall produce an annual discovery it should
be chamber. If you can approve the agreement as amended and that is on page 14 of the
scope. Thank you madam error. >> I'll make the motion to accept the consent calendar as amended on age and on j
as the city attorney has put forward. I think hundred 95,000 for the chamber is a deal.
that's my second. >> all second a motion I like to see that were making some progress on the
carry-on park project. >> yes. Absolutely.
okay, roll call please. Try to. >> okay motion passes unanimously.
they get to the indio chamber of commerce, the greater coachella chamber
commerce for your support of our community.
we appreciate it. >> thank you.
>> all right, thus move on to the public hearings. Item number 10.
we will do 10 82 start resolution number 10219 approving the issuance of
tax-exempt revenue bonds bite see him fa for finance of the arroyo crossing
affordable housing project, pursuant to the tax equit financial responsibility
act. Tougher. >> they cute madam mirror. And members of city council my name is kevin snyder of your director of community
development. This evening jesus gomez housing a programs manager will be providing a brief
staff report on this public hearing item which I want to note is an action that
we are obligated to do under the act reference by the mayor.
however this is not a normal procedure for the city. It's a special circumstances related to bond financing.
mr. Gomez will provide you a brief overview explaining the purposes of the hearing
and then the applicant is also here to answer questions you might have.
>> thank you very much. Okay. Does counsel have any questions of staff before open the public hearing?
no? Okay. Open the public hearing. Is there any comments or questions at this time?
okay, there being none I of number 8 I will close the public hearing. And ask for the councils motion.
we can do a presentation on this?
I didn't understand them. Come back out. >> present.
>> I'll be up to the public hearing. I have 2 pieces.
>> I thought it was good to get away with it.
that's us with this presentation yet. So I had a brief powerpoint presentation but it was pretty much a one pager.
I think the title and art director kevin snyder pretty much summarizes this
item. This is something that the council is per southeast over the last 10 years we
have conducted these hearings for 5 different projects, affordable housing projects.
in the past they've been for the acquisition rehabilitation of existing
apartment housing units in the city. This was unique in its fo new development.
I'm glad to report to the community and the council that this proposed bond
financing and issuance of tax-exempt bonds pertaining to the arroyo crossing
project. It is new development that will be constructed on jefferson, the west side of
the city just south of 111. The council, city council approved this project back in early 2020.
this pertains to the financing phase of this project. The bond issuer is required per the irs code to conduct this public hearing.
which the council and the city simply serves as a jurisdiction to allow
members of the public to speak on this project. The issuance of the bonds is not an obligation of the city now or in the future
it simply ceremonial process that the council opens up the public hearing
for the public. >> any questions? >> I have a question regarding the fees that will be charged of
residence. This is similar to the other projects where they are charged on a scale of
their income where it's like 30 percent of income or do you know? >> correct.
so the rents will be very based on the household income and they can range
from 30 percent of the area median income to 80 percent of the area median income.
in different units and different unit sizes will be designated for different
income levels. It could range. It's hundred 84 units a variety of income levels.
>> yes I just want to say thank you to our staff and our developer as well as we
noted earlier in our study session we have people who make below the median
income producing the bottom 50 percent of our population based on income,
20 percent pay over 50 percent of income on rent.
so this is going to stabilize them back to 30 percent of their income on rent.
I think that will do a lot of great things for those families and hopefully they could be able to afford more basic necessities lik education or healthcare
and also add more money disputed our community with our businesses. Thank you very much for giving this to us.
>> you're welcome. >> thanks, any other questions? Okay I will now close the public hearing.
you had such a valve is presentation, thank you. Public hearing is close.
>> all makeup motion if everybody's ready? >> is everybody ready? >> adopt resolution number 10219 approving the issuance of tax-exempt
revenue bonds bite see him fa for financing of the arroyo crossing affordable
housing project. >> second. >> okay I have a motion an a second.
>> motion passes unanimously.
public hearing item number to be resolution 10214 adopting a mitigated
negative declaration and mitigation monitoring and report program.
ordinance number 1761 approving the church at the red door specific plan and
resolution number 10215 approving tentative parcel map number 37899 tpm 20 â"
03 â" 4032 subs divide the 13.07 acre project site into 2 lots to accommodate
a worship center to be located at the southwest corner of jefferson street
and avenue 49 apn 602 â" 060 â" 001602 â" 060 â" 002.
mr. Snyder? >> madam mayor and pro tem and the city council.
I am tap dancing there we go. Okay, good evening and members of city council and kevin snyder director of
community development. This public hearing item is coming before you this evening and it pertains to 3 items.
2 of them are legislative in nature. One is environmental in nature.
I'm gonna go through presentation and I will be joined a little bit later by our consulting transportation engineer who also make a presentation
and then following that we would recommend that the city council engage in the
public hearing process. As I mentioned before you have before you this evening several items.
I broken them on the screen into one of calling legislative items.
and that is the specific plan, church of the barn door specific plan.
very simply specific plan is a form of zoning.
it's in essence crating site-specific zoning standards. It pertains to land use, development standards, design standards and
operational standards. The main requirement under state law specific plans are identified by state law
as a main requirement of complaint with the city's adopted general plan. When we look at specific plans the primary lens were looking at them is through
the compliance to the adopted general plan. The tentative parcel map and we will be looking out is also an action that
looking at length to the general plan as well. In that instance the applicant is seeking to divide one piece of
property into 2 parcels of land and so again when were looking at that we need to
look at through compliance the general plan as well as other applicable city standards.
finally, there's the environmental assessment. The environmental assessment is under the provisions of california
environmental quality act and we are looking at again has it met the requirements
of sequent assets commonly refer to and we will discuss that in a moment.
in short, sequent looks at the environmental impacts of projects whether they be
a subdivision or other types of projects that determines there is an
opportunity to mitigate those impacts such that the impacts the environment
will be damaged. There is follow-up potential actions as it pertains to this project in
front of you. If the council does choose to approve the specific plan.
it would go back to your planning commission for follow-up actions that will pertain to the conditional use permit request and th design review request.
the reason why there split and many times he would see these come to you as one
package. Because your establishing zoning standards for the property and because the
item under consideration for the specific plan involves conditional use
permit. I along with the city attorney evaluated this and determined it was
appropriate to have the council first decide on whether or not the
requested zoning for that specific plan will be applied to the property after and then it will go back to the planning commission for follow-up
consideration for conditional use permit and design application. That would provide another round of public review opportunity for the
project. So the property question is located at the south excuse the southeast corner of
avenue 49 jefferson street. It's currently 13.07 acres.
as one parcel of land. For those that are maybe not familiar with the site of the public if you've
ever traveled down jefferson street and you seem the elevated house
that's white. It is kind of has its own landmark if you will.
that is the property were talking about. So, september 2000 19th city council adopted general plan 2040.
established land use designation throughout the city for individual parcels
of land. In your action in 2019 you established a connected neighborhood land use
designation for this property. In general plan we delineate between primary land uses and secondary
land uses. The specific plant is proposing for your consideration a place of
worship campus. Thus the primary focus and intent of the specific plan.
sometimes specific plans have broader focus they may have more uses on the site.
they may look at a mixture of uses they could be housing, they can be retail.
in this instance the specific plan has been prepared and proposed to
focus on a place of worship. Under the general plan for the city council has adopted places of worship
are considered a secondary land use and that means it would require a conditional use permit under that general time.
now, as the council is well aware and you generously supported us updating our
zoning regulations. We adopted the general plan in 2019.
we adopted it with the understanding that we needed to up don't update
our student recordations to be consistently compliant for the general plan.
we are working on that. Today the current zoning of the property is what we call country estate and
deal branch of this morning. This is intended to be a lower density residential neighborhood zoning
designation. And under that designation places of worship are not currently permitted.
but, again in those instances where you have a consistency between your
general plant near zoning regulations the general plan prevails.
so the land-use orientation of the general plan in this instance the connected neighborhood of the secondary land use element of that general plan
requires that it be looked at through the general plan lens of the zoning lines
for the purposes of reviewing the specific plan.
one thing I want to note. This project has been in conversations with city for quite a while.
in fact we started conversations before the city council adopted the
new general plan. At that time the applicant was presented with the information that this would
be the general plan designation. However we would need to update our zoning regulations and at such
time we update the current zoning the stay in effect. The applicant had a choice.
the applicant could wait till we updated our zoning regulations or the
applicant could pursue an alternate route. In this incidents the alternate route was a specific point in the
applicant chose to pursue that alternate route. Okay, so, the specific plan as I mentioned before is really focused on a place
of worship and associated uses. The place of worship is the primary focus and nature of the land-use.
there will be attended or proposed to be attended to other uses but all under
the umbrella of a place of worship. And is proposed as a 4 phase development.
what that means is basically over a period of time as we understand from
the applicant have someone driven by financial considerations they would
build out the campus. That campus would occur, the components of the campus would be for 4
phases and that would lead to ultimately what we would understand the full
buildout nature. Full buildout you have approximate 41,000 square feet of building area.
he would have a sanctuary that can accommodate up to 965 individuals.
then you would have a total of 3 and 59 on-site surface parking spaces. Again, this is the phase development.
what we anticipate is over time they would build that out. The next slide I will break down for you is the different phases.
phase 1 again is as shown on the map here.
hopefully that's readable. I thank you all have this in front of you in digital paper copy.
phase 1 would be the sanctuary building. That would be built with the initial 584 seats.
that would be accompanied by 236 on-site surface parking spaces.
phase 2 would be about 6266 square feet of next-generation children
building. Thus the term. That would not include classrooms but it would be space for youth activities
and meeting space and other youth oriented activities of the church with sponsor.
phase 3 would be 6266 square feet of administrative section and
youth building. That would be really where they would have there office functions and
meeting spaces for bible study and other events. The last phase is a proximally 8600 xp spaghetti 200 square-foot
multipurpose room. This would not be used as overflow space for the sanctuary.
it would not be as space that would be used to accommodate beyond the
maximum allowed of individuals in the sanctuary space. We did work with the applicant to assure that because we wanted to make
sure there was adequate on-site parking the trumpe consideration. It's clear the specific plan and the adopted regulations if the council
was to consider this multipurpose space is not to be used for that. As I mentioned before the phasing plan would be implemented on a phased
basis based in part by financial considerations.
I'm putting up some images for you here. This is in the documentation that is in the legislative record.
this shows you some perspectives from different angles looking down on the
property. To give you a sense of scope and size and scale.
as well as some architectural elevations to show you how the building
sits on the site as well as orientation to the surrounding area. So, the application review process for this has been extensive.
I'm not gonna go through every one but I will highlight that the applicant did start as staff's recommendation february 2020 formally.
with the project consultation of the council may remember this is a study session with the planning commission where they have an early
opportunity to get feedback for the planning commission and they heard a variety of
comments from the running commission. They were talking to staff earlier but they did not formally begin the process
of working with the city until the early part of 2020. And they went through several iterations of plans.
I could tell you the initial concept was much larger than the 41,000 square feet I mentioned.
they were at one time at hundred 16,000 square feet. So, over time working with staff they had several community meetings outside
of any meetings with staff and any other required public meetings to solicit
community feedback and as they went through the process they did modify the
project in response to issues by the community and comments and input from
city staff. Where we got to in early part of this year as we began to move into the
public hearing process. Prior to that there was a comment we did to be noticing this of the
environmental documentation. We took that apart because there was a significant change even though it was a
downsizing of the project scope and intensity. We wanted the public to be aware of.
on this list you will see there are several durations of noticing related to the
documentation. As we went out to the public hearing process we have several continuances
that we went through as we worked with applicant to refine the proposal and
response to concerns or questions that we had identified. Each time we made an effort to notify residents of both in terms of notifications
via regular mail to property owners in the surrounding area admitted
extraordinary noticing. Typically by code only have to do 3 feet we do 12 feet.
we understood this was a project of interest to the community.
we want to make sure that people in the vicinity have the opportunity to be made
aware of the progress. There may also sent emails to interested parties that had requested to be
notified. At this point I will highlight some of the key issues that you have before
you as you consider this. I mentioned earlier the issue of compliance to the general plan.
as I stated earlier places of worship are secondary allowed land uses for the
general 2040. Your general plan does recognize the places of worship could be considered
in the connected neighborhood land use as a potential use of land with
an extraordinary review which is conditional use permit process.
the issue of other uses of the land, the applicant has indicated that they might
have interest in having events and activities on the property outside of the
physical building spaces. And so working with the applicant we've identified that in order to do that
they would need to obtain a temporary use permit from the city. That is a standard practice that with many businesses or organizations in our
city who want to hold special events beyond what might be considered the
mortal operating parameters of the use of the propert that work with the city
and the city goes through a review process involving many different departments
to make sure that were adequately assessing the impacts of the proposed temporary use of the land to make it to any medications that need to be
considered and applied are done so.
one of the items in the specific plan that staff strongly pushed for and you
will hear some other thoughts from the applicant I believe this evening is the idea of no sound application for outdoor activities.
we did this in part because there is residences in close proximity.
we do know that noise can travel differently in the desert and traveled much
farther we felt in order to protect the impacts to nearby residents and in the
vein of being a good neighbor the appropriate approach on outdoor sound
application was to not allow it. The current specific plan in front of you says it's not a valve.
the applicant may ask you to think differently about that. We also did recommend and the applicant did include in the specific plan of the
concept with desert friendly landscaping. Really in that vein we held the position that we didn't believe it was appropriate
to allow for turf. And this is consistent with the general plan in terms of sustainability and is
also consistent with our climate action plan if also adopted. In this vein given the size of the campus and the amount of turf that could
be introduced into the property he felt it was better to promote desert
friendly landscaping until the specific plan in front of you this evening also
has that standard which the applicant will may you about. The existing residential house I mentioned earlier, the applicant has indicated
they may use that for a house for the pastor that would serve the church.
however at some point they may want to utilize it for other purposes that are not
residential in nature for example is meeting space. We did working with the city attorney we add into the ordinance a requirement
that the specific plan be amended to identify that if they do have an interest in
using it for something beyond residential purposes that they go through a
conditional use permit process to give the public the opportunity to
understand and assess the impact. The house is close by the river states in its importance and transparency
in the public have made aware of any uses that residential of that portion
of the property. Finally, obviously a topic of interest to many individuals that are
following this project. To the planning commission observed to the city council as transportation
impacts medications for avenue 49th and jefferson street.
this is a juncture point in which are going to turn it over to mark greene what
our consulting transportation engineer. I will be remiss if I didn't take 10 seconds to acknowledge that this
project was reviewed professionally by a team of city staff and I want to
acknowledge platelet number and senior planner who is the project planner layla
worked many days, nights and weekends on this project coordinating the various reviews and interactions with the staff.
lawn raised to the engineer the provided invaluable guidance and input. Margaret with who you will hear from in short order.
at also I want to acknowledge city attorney roxanne diaz for her valuable assistance and support assistance of the city attorney zach
hanselman. With up to turn it over to market?
what he's going to walk yo through the traffic engineering and traffic
study process including our review efforts. He could also answer questions you might have and thank you for the
opportunity to provide you with this information. >> good evening. Moskowitz had a marker and would on your consulting transportation engineer.
I provide technical support to your staff on traffic and transportation issues. I've been doing traffic engineer in transportation engineering for over 40
years mostly in riverside and san bernardino counties for cities in those counties. The respiratory of my work has been 4 cities.
richly retired from city down the road a ways I was there director of public works for quite a few years.
decided to open a small engineering consulting company to provide services
to cities in the coachella valley that's
what we do. A very small company.
like I said assisting your staff. Moving onto the project.
it was first presented to me back in february or march 2020.
over a year ago. With a traffic study scoping agreement.
this is the very first part of the traffic study where staff and the consultant
team agree on what is to be studied and the procedures to be used.
that went through several rounds of back-and-forth came to agreement the study
proceeded. In june of july 2020 was accepted as complete and it circulated as part of the
document for public review and comment. During that review and comment.
the public did a thorough analysis of the review came up with some very good
questions. Some that had honestly not been addressed in the analysis.
we asked the consultant team to go back rearview address those issues which
they did. We again accepted the study as complete.
there were a couple of questions that continue to come back to us mostly
involving access on avenue 49. So city staff took the extraordinary step of hiring a third-party
consultant. Somewhat completely independent from the process. And evaluated evaluated what would happen if access was allowed or not allowed
on avenue 49 and how that might impact other parts of the project. The consultant came to the conclusion that the access on avenue 49 that traffic
throughout the system that might be affected by this project will not be
negatively impacted if access was either allowed or not allowed on 49.
have both choices that are possible.
that privilege brings us to where we are now. So my role here tonight is to try to answer any technical questions you
have about the traffic study process. It's possible if you have technical questions about some of the finite details
of the study it might refer to the consultant team.
without I will conclude. >> thank you very much.
>> were wrap up mayor then turn it over to you.
I just wanted to and with counsel considerations.
I want to mention your planning commission multiple public hearings on
this in a final public hearing on april 20. Your planning commission did end up voting 2 â" 2.
we do not have our fifth commission members so we have a total of 4 commission members and they voted 2 â" 2 which is technically no
recommendation to the city council. Which is not usual from your planning commission but in this instant they
voted 2 â" 2 in the primary area of difference between the commissioners
was on impacts to avenue 49 and that's contained in th legislative record. You have the meeting minutes.
in this instance my we normally would bring forward a recommendation
from your planning commission, tonight were not bringing a recommendation from your planning commission.
so the counsel considerations are reactions. Resolution number 10214 pertaining to that medicaid if negative declaration and
mitigation monitoring reporting program. Ordinance numbers 1761 approving the church of the red door specific plan and
resolution number 10215 approving tenant parcel map 37899.
again, these are your counsil considerations. This is a public hearing estimate noted at the beginning and staff would
recommend that the council continue the public hearing but were available to answer questions counsel may have before you invite the public comments.
thank you. >> thank you very much. Before open the public hearing I would like to see if counsel has any of
staff. >> thank you covered for the report.
you said that if we approve it and go back to the planning commission basically.
what is the planning commission's authority considering we will approve this to give details because it can't overwrite us or goals and if we
decide among ourselves, right? They would have to work within the parameters then if the applicant didn't
agree with what the planning commission they had the right to peel it back to us I take it?
>> you are correct councilmember. The council this evening if you make positive action to approve the specific
plan you are establishing the zoning paradigm for this property.
working under that paradigm then the planning commission role would be to
review a conditional use permit request the design review under the currently
adopted rules and regulations we had for those consistent with the specific plan.
they under the rules adopted and approved by the city council are the final
decision-maker on condition use permits and design review applications unless
appealed to the city council at which time it will come back to you for potential consideration and action.
>> thank you. >> are there any other comments by counsel or questions to staff?
>> I've a question of staff.
>> go right ahead. >> mr. Snyder the aerial that you displayed in this presentation had a redlined
boundary. From the aerial it's my understanding that this proposal abuts the
residence with the lake in front of it.
as I correct? >> correct.
>> okay so going back to the site plan, the southernmost project
proposal and the specific plan is the roundabout and parking lot, correct?
>> you are correct. >> okay. I want to clear something up and it's not specific to this applicant's proposal.
but you mentioned several times that a place of worship is a secondary
allowed use with the conditional use permit. And I want to make it clear because this is always been an actual contention point
for me and it was actually a concern when the counci gave up the right to
review conditional uses. It's not conditional use permits are exactly that conditional use permits.
they are not rights. They are not, they do not allow specific uses.
there conditional based on a case-by-case basis. I want to make that clear because the way you explained it it was as if
worship places were allowed as a secondary use.. And that's not what the purpose
of a conditional use permit is. The second question I have for you has to do with the numerous comments that we
received from the inception of this project. At looking at alternative circulation patterns on property.
were any of those considerations or concerns expressed to the applicant
to modify their plans so that this proposal could be in harmony with the
community that expressed concerns? >> they keep councilmember at the giver clarifying my earlier comments on the
conditions. I do appreciate that. Regarding the circulation I am going to assume that you are referring specifically
to avenue 49. And the potential impacts to that roadway.
I will make a generalized statement. Any technical statements below refer to mr. Greenwood.
throughout our early interactions with the applicant continuing throughout the engagements when they formally submitted and up to and
including the public hearing process before the planning commission we have consistently notified the applicant that the access to avenue 49 was an issue
of concern. That we encourage them to look at alternate considerations for that.
and we also suggested that they be prepared to respond to the planning commission
and/or city council about concerns on the access. >> okay, well that doesn't really answer my question.
usually when a community and a planning commission expresses concern and I
don't want to hear from the traffic engineer. This is not a technical question.
the proponent of a project tries to work with the community so it can be well
received. That's neither here nor there. We are where we are about something for counsel to consider.
the other point I want to make is that it's a little disheartening that staff
and the consultant traffic consultant came to the decision as to the
direction of the traffic study without taking into consideration the history
of the country estates area. Which is dark skies, country roads, rural roads, no sidewalks, strictly one
lane each way. And that should've been taken into consideration in the traffic study but it
wasn't. Assumptions were made that did not have all of the history and the previous
counsel vision and consideration.
that's why I am stating that I don't want to hear from a traffic engineer
because I don't feel the traffic study took into consideration that areas
uniqueness in our city. I want to make it clear though that this area has always been intended to be
dark skies, rural roads for residential access only, no sidewalks.
no curb and gutter, 30 foot height limits in any deviation from that really
is not in keeping with the spirit of the southern portion of our city. So, again I'm expressing my concern over the fact that those weren't taken into
consideration when the initial traffic study was done and I hope that by
having this piece of information now that some kind of consideration can
be given to that. Thank you. >> okay, does anybody else have any questions?
I think, I was going sick I would like to continue on with the conversation about
avenue 49. I know there have been conversations about alleviating any direction
on avenue 49. What are the ramifications of just leaving things on jefferson instead of having
access from avenue 49th?
>> I can generally summarize if the council would like more technical detail I would ask greenwood up.
we did actually do a third-party analysis of considerations of access of
avenue 49. They range from no access other than a fire emergency axis of avenue 49 2 and
limited right in movement only. Don't write out but right in only.
and then that third-party analysis it was determined that in both instances
jefferson street could accommodate the increased traffic. There would have to be mitigations within the right-of-way of jefferson
street. We would have to address turn lanes that would have to be lengthened both north
and south. But, it would function and I'm going to stop trying to play transportation
engineer. If you have technical questions I will turn to mr. Greenwood.
>> that is fair enough at this point in this moment for me.
I'm going to ask and see where pro tem has a question. >> have a few questions bu I don't know if we should wait orifice there's a time
to start asking questions. I had a question about the existing property.
the house. Will the house be permitted to have events on the property and if so how will
that happen and what's approximate from the house on the property to the
neighboring community? >> so I'll answer your first question.
as I stated earlier the applicant has indicated that they have interest in
utilizing the existing residence as a residence for the pastor.
however they've also indicated that at some point the future they may
want to utilize it for non-residential purpose such as meeting space or
small event space. That instance the ordinance that is before you this evening does contain a
wreck condition of approval or recommendation requirement let me figure out my words here.
a requirement to modify the specific plan to require a conditional use permit
process before the planning commission if they do seek to utilize that space for
nonresidential purposes. The meeting space or small event space. >> to clarify that, at this point they are not seeking out.
if they shall they could go to planning commission after that to seek that?
>> you said it very well. >> then to piggyback off of that I read that and I' sorry because I mean we've
got 80 pages of staff report. Another 70 of residents who are concerned about this.
that's a lot of reading to do any trying to do our best. And do our best to represent our constituents.
it's also said there's no amplified sound on the property for events.
but, this would also change that?
for the structure or just for the house? >> I think earlier you asked the distance from the house to the public lands
of the desert river houses and I believe it is about 100 feet according to
senior planner lumbar. Hundred 50 my apologies. Hundred and 50 feet.
the specific plan is currently written and presented to you this
evening has a operational standard of no sound application for outdoor
utilization of space. Basically if they're going to do something outside they should not have
amplified sound. Does that mean they can't have the events outside it means they would not
amplify through use of speakers or other amplification equipment
that would carry music or other sounds.
again as I mentioned earlier I think the applicant will you this evening about that requirement and perhaps seek alternate
consideration but as it stands that is the requirement in the specific plan.
>> okay, from the infrastructure standpoint can we talk about the water and simmer access to this property?
>> we can. Is there a specific question? >> how are we getting water and sewer to this?
>> one of the requirements for the specific claims the analyze the plan for
infrastructure. The specific plan analyzes the infrastructure.
there is sewer access, sewer services as provided by coachella water district.
I know it sounds odd to say. In some instances they provide service as well. They do have a current sewer line south of this area down on avenue 50.
the applicant have to work with coachella valley water district and the city to
extend sewer service to the property. India water authority is a water service provider. There is water service in the immediate area.
similar to what I said they would have to work with india water authority to extend water service to the property.
all other utilities of the other utility providers electrical, gas, again there are services available in the area of the above to work with each
of those providers through their processes to extend utility services to the property. >> okay, I will not question them other questions or for the
applicant. Can we go to the slide with the phases of the development. I did read that there will be a school allowed but, I see on here children
building. Maybe this is for the applicant to answer. The phase 2, what this building will be.
there's a youth building in children building but no classrooms. >> I can make an initial attempt of the applicant may want to clarify what is
their time to speak. In the earlier generations to the project they did have classroom spaces.
in response to quiddity concerns or questions from staff chose to remove the
classroom space cannot operate as a former classroom space. They do have youth activities that they plan to conduct.
this will be space for the youth activities. I will not be formal classroom space is my understanding and I believe
that applicant can clarify with further detail. That's my understanding of staff.
ms. Lumbar worked quite diligently with the applicant to make sure that
this was clear based on the concerns of the community as well as our concerns about that use.
>> like an indoor gymnasium transformative space.
>> correct. >> yeah.
>> I think this is probably a really good time, think it mr. Snyder to open the
public hearing and bring the applicant aboard. Public hearing is open.
and maybe have those who are representing the church of the red door please.
>> thank you. Community their homes, counsel and my name is chris herman.
some of you may recognize me as a landscape architect that works for the city on
numerous projects. Some which you spoke about earlier. Cb length one mile soda park more recently the indio sports complex.
today at my role is as an elder of our church and as chairman of our property
development team. We like to give you a brief overview of our church.
in the process, I will answer some of those questions that cancel woman
amith had presented. I'd like to first introduce our senior pastor of the founder of her church, jeff
cranford. Will give you a little bit more of the heart of who we are what we are about.
he will turn it back over to me and I'll continue with some brief questions
and answers. We will also hover architect give you a better 2 or 3 minute video
presentation to expand upon what staff has presented. They did a fantastic job and eliminated a lot of the detail and I thought I
would have to get into. I will address the changes we made of the last year and 1/2.
without any further ado here's jeffrey cranford our leader.
>> thank you chris. Thank you honorable mayor homes, city council members, thank you for all
your services not only indio for the valley at large.
I will keep this under 5 minutes. My congregants are questioning them.
I'm sure that's the case. When the object name is jeffrey cranford on pastor the church the red door.
I lived in the coachella valley for almost 35 years now.
and started my life here in the indio at the â" apartments.
I came tote work ethic â". In fact treasure of dark the ministry be done â" â" print why you might
ask? Those who have been most affected by the gospel at least within our spirit
were connected with golf substantial given the makeup of much more valley.
I have served as professional fly mark in the vintage club in indian
wells. And actually was profoundly impacted by a church and a residential area on
monterey avenue and will be forever grateful for that.
we finally decided together 5 years ago and actually begin a property search
that would best position us for the future growth with the valley.
we believe this location is perfect to serve the community.
we felt most clearly our vision goes well beyond those early connections to
now support a much more diverse demographic. For the last 2 years we sought to engage potential neighbors and address their
concerns as was alluded to original footprint has bee drastically reduced and is
chris herman will discuss many other concerns have been confronted.
we believe we dealt with both our staff and team of consultants.
look, our soul passion and calling is to serve this community.
we are clearly not a for-profit entity. A purpose for existence is to serve and care for our neighbors.
we are not an outside investment firm or conglomerate.
we are this community. Crd includes idiot residents. As well as other desert city residents.
growth will be more localized I think as we go forward.
my mantra from the very beginning has been the church the road door will
never just be a church providing religious services for religious
people. Or entrusted with being life and love in our communities regardless of
the current phase status. As I thought about this counsel, it seemed to me to be a self-defeating
proposition to alienate our neighbors and become in any way a nuisance.
we are committed to respecting and caring for those who work in close
proximity to this future site. I thank you're able to see the propose architectural layout this becomes clear.
we have even met for the last 15 months indifference to our neighbors during
this pandemic. Again, I don't discourage other churches have chosen to meet.
it was our heart to care for our neighbors by not doing that.
to be honest with you great sacrifice to her church. I want you to know as those entrusted to ensure the well-being of your
residence we are truly passionate about serving this community. Were dedicated to making indio a better place for everybody by our commitment
to off-site efforts already like that narrow door, the coachella valley rescue
mission and even valley wide mama's house of others. Our congregants not only serve these ministries bite mentoring and teaching and
training and feeding those in need right where they are. I think the extender leadership skills by serving in board roles
giving liberally and even as young church we've given substantially to these
efforts as well and will continue to do so in the future. I think it's our god given task quite frankly we believe this is that often
overlook bluffing to any city. The church being the church.
we also want to be there for our community and other very direct ways.
our hope is to serve families, fostering healthy ridges, help with raising
children through training and counseling, come alongside people. As it did with end-of-life issues is something very significant for our valleys
as a whole. A lot of retirees print out those dealing with addiction issues by
addressing more deep philosophical issues about we need a purpose.
I think this should be the normal activity of any healthy church. I hope to be that church.
and we believe we are. Obviously we realize there are some who may feel that for a brief few moments on
the weekend normal traffic patterns are slightly affected. It's our hope that the council recognizes that any potentially brief
inconvenience to our neighbors is mitigated by all the life and love our community is dedicated in displaying.
in places we are called to go. We believe we have the opportunity to help this community flourish.
refill location is significant. To carry out our vision.
becoming part of the fabric of the community is medically important to us. I think part of a lot of the church is now being allocated to the outskirts
going to industrial parkways and thanks it's easier and cheaper and
trust me it's cheaper. For new charge to even engage in a thought experiment to come to a
place like this at the expense that it will be location is important to us
as it should be obvious. Simply close with this. I think our hearts could probably best be summed up in an admonition given to
the prophet jeremiah. Some 2600 years ago. He told jeremiah to communicate the simple equation.
seek peace and well-being for the city where I sent you. Pray to the lord on its behalf for an answer well-being you will have
peace. Folks that's our heart, counsel thoughts or passion. We really do look forward to the future and thank you so much for your time.
>> thanks jeff. It's amazing and it amazes me to see how god is moving in the coachella valley.
in many ways. Look at the council agenda today and to say church is doing and the church of the
red door. There are naysayers council members have written a letter.
the cost, religious business. I can't tell you except fo my own experience there's nothing less truth in them.
jeff has mentioned this to me in the past and we've adopted this paucity of
religion is man's attempt to reach god. Jesus was god's attempt to reach man.
would love that analogy ecause it's the weight which we could learn to have eternal relationships.
not just these relationships. Having said that I want to briefly kind of highlight some of the timeline we
went over earlier. That was that we started before opening x groped back a year and half ago
now february 2020. This property started 3 years ago and we kept coming back to it.
it wasn't until about a year and half ago that we met with staff in february and went through the initial concepts to answer the questions of how we
responded to the communities concerns early on.
for the first meeting very first night plant had the building off of jefferson
further back towards the neighboring properties and stuff mentioned they didn't
like to see that. They've like to see less parking front of the building. Remove the building first study up to the corner.
per the parking behind the building to create as much separation as we could.
staff mentioned the workshops we did we held 2 live workshops at trilogy
one zoom workshop. The specific plan was submitted in may 2020.
we have been on this for over a year now. That was mentioned earlier.
here the community concerns. The community concerns were about scale and impact, traffic, and there were
some specific land uses we had in the very first specific plan submittal we
removed. I will hit those in the no go on further.
we removed the day school. Councilman furman there is no day school.
in the answer that staff gave us. Those buildings will take place and will be used on sunday for youth.
there's no daycare. There's no day school. That was removed. We removed the outdoor amphitheater.
we revised our temporary uses and we provided additional prohibited uses
like the distribution of food other than a natural man-made disaster.
the extents amount of traffic studies and the traffic improvements we
proposed have been proved up that the site works. The overall project size, the biggest change was we can met with 112,000 square
feet like most developers trying to maximize whatever we could do with the property that we are buying.
reduced it by over half to 41,236 square feet.
when we are complete over 90 percent of the site is undeveloped.
I don't think there's another use that could claim that and have less of an impact on traffic.
or the neighbors. Phase 1 will have 580 seats our phase 2 will add about 400 and 8 more.
have 958 seat building.
we left our relationship with staff. They work diligently. They've guided us.
we've gone through several different revisions. November 2020 we resubmitted the plan.
we had several more meetings. We might just off. We thought we had february 10 planning commission but they advised there was a
few more things you need to do to make sure that we get this through planning commission.
here are the other changes we made. We modified more of our temporary uses.
we developed an operational plan. Operational plan addresses parking and addresses traffic control.
we crated a matrix so it's easy to understand what the allowed a prohibited uses
are. We clarified our setbacks. We move our setbacks off does it ever further with the parking areas.
and the access drive to the house has been combined with access drive into our
property on 49th. Our cross was a big concern. We first proposed the cross the architects had a 75 foot emblem art piece but,
it definitely was too tall.
reduced up to 35 feet. That's currently what you will see in the rendering and the 3d videos you will
see. I mentioned we move parking adjacent to residences. We clarified time extension expirations on the project.
and we modified our architectural elevations. To make it more decorative and to make it more interesting.
I will turn it over to our architect dave title is with don't let studio. Dome a student has 250 religious institutions, churches, they are the best
game in town. He's going to go through this.
>> thank you chris. Good evening madame mayor and council members my name is david â" and I'm with
â" architects. In san diego. As chris said we have done over 250 churches all over southern california and
beyond. That's a bit of our expertise. And dealt with many of the issues that are in conversation this evening.
tonight we have a video fo you that shows the design of walking down or driving
down jefferson. This is for moving south.
you see the cross at 35 feet. The building is primarily stucco and then there's court can still use for
shading devices. The building is very open and transparent which reflects what the church
hopes to have for its mission.
and welcomes the community in a transparent way.
the majority of the building set back 62 feet from jefferson avenue.
the majority of the building is 14 feet high. The block portions of the middle are 20 feet high in the sanctuary is 20 feet
high. At the end there's roundabouts at both ends and allows parking within
the church parking lot so they don't have to go back out to the city street.
and at the end you see the youth areas that are will be used on sundays.
and sunday school as more of you are familiar with the term a sunday school.
this is between the parking lot in the church.
there's a fountain in front reflecting and a large outdoor shaded area
underneath the structure. That serves for a gathering area outside.
as we swing back around there's a enclosure into the building that houses
mechanical and disguises mechanical from the street. Any feedback from the corner of jefferson.
that's all. >> that's great david. Thank you. I wanted to reiterate that we have our traffic consultant here to answer
questions. I also wanted to highlight again, after we made our changes to the traffic
improvements I want to make counsel aware of what exactly is happening. As a left turn pocket of the jefferson median south of avenue 49.
there is a longer right turn lane bracket into the project on jefferson and in
the original plan going north. We relocated the jefferson entry to the north to accommodate that longer
turn pocket. We are wanting avenue 49th to invite a right turn lane into the project as well.
I think I mentioned the left turn pocket on the jefferson median going south making a left turn is being lengthened for additional cash.
we will and we understand there is concern from rencontre about
shortcutting through the neighborhood. That is something we will manage.
I don't understand why anybody would want to do that.
the traffic works the way we designed it. I would like to close just to say that given all we've outlined here and we
believe the specific plan is solid. We've been patient, consistently responded to the community and staff and
the consultants that are involved. Compromise in any areas to be sensitive to our neighbors and we believe
like your staff is recommending approval. We developed a specific plan that this counsel should approve.
and I need to thank you all for your service to the community. It's amazing what you do.
and we're here to answer your questions. I think if we need to answer traffic concerns I'll let george speak.
when you're ready I'll let it go from there. >> okay, thank you very much.
on that note I like to turn it over to my counsel for any questions they may have
of the applicant. Does anyone counsel which to speak?
>> ideal. >> go right ahead. >> mr. Herman I noticed in the 3d video the building that the architectural art
piece as you refer to it as how tall is that building? I know the art piece is 35 feet but how tall is the building from which it
protrudes? >> 31 feet. >> 31 so 4 feet above that is, it looks lower than the building behind it.
I thought you said the building behind it was 31 feet.
>> the tallest portion is a sanctuary at 31 feet.
the majority of the bead building is 40 feet tall.
the others to block units are 20 feet tall which hold mechanical wells.
ask at the very, very north part of the building looks like the patio is at the
sanctuary or set a patio like the architecture picture?
>> unmasking how tall is that part of the building? >> this portion right here is 14 feet home.
>> okay. Okay, that gives me a better perspective.
and then the other question I have, I don't recall reading what phase the
perimeter landscape and the parking lot are. Others all required as part of phase 1?
>> we have the perimeter landscape will all be done in phase 1, yes.
the parking has extension parking that is not required at all for any of
the phases but as fees for the sanctuary to a larger capacity at the parking
could expand if needed. >> so how much of the parking will be in phase 1?
how much will be developed? Or though still be sound in the undeveloped portions, dirt?
>> is 236 parking stalls and chris could talk about the planting. >>.
>> I talked about the parking. How much of the parking lot is going to be done in phase 1?
>>. >> 232 stalls, right?
>> yeah but how many feet of that is off the northern corner?
>> if we could look at the site plan will show you the phase 1 parking. >> thank you, I appreciate that.
>> to answer your question we would be doing some sort of soul stabilization.
I irrigated native seed mix to conform to aqmd and keep the erosion control
down. I like to also speak while he is bringing up that the 2 points of staff made
regarding the conditions of approval. There's only 2 things were asking for.
that is to keep our ability to have an work application in some former matter.
as a punishment we have to request that be held to the same standard as anyone
else would in that regard. The same thing as a relates to turfgrass parasite.
there's an applicable amount of water used for every project based on the silly blood between the for the city and the water agency.
after due water budget calculations. We want to adopt those same regulations that are required in all projects of
the city and conform to those not be held to a higher standard.
to request us to not have any turfgrass we think is asking us to do more than
what's being asked of others. Those of the 2. Here's a picture of the parking phase 1.
>> phase 1 parking, correct. As a loop that goes through and through.
after 49 and this is the dashed area is the phase 2 optional parking.
>> have a phase 1 landscape plan which you can see.
zelenskiy development will take place all around the parking lot to be the shady requirement all of the parkways along 49 jefferson will be landscaped.
>> okay, thank you. >> I would jump in and ask a question to clarify.
as you go through office as you go through phases which really driven by
finances. The entire property however say after phase 1 is built will be maintained
landscaped in some form or fashion, is that what I heard?
>> yes. The frontage of jefferson I believe in a phase 1 landscape plan is all going
to be landscaped. We will have soil coverage there with decomposed granite to keep, the
standard practice today. On the areas that we grade or rough grade that aren't required to stabilize.
we have to stabilize that soil. >> that would be my concern for the areas surrounding it as you go through the
phases. Okay, does counsel have any color questions, please?
there pro tem. >> is spending on the frontage is there any plan to modify the frontage on
avenue 49? >> yes, we have a right turn lane being added to avenue 49 to allow for the
traffic to q when it goes into our driveway from the left turns and the right turns.
>> can we go back to that slide. We have that available? Of the mouth where we were showing up to 49.
he said this would be another lien added? >> a right turn pocket is been added on 49 on the south side.
>> let me bring that up.
let me see if I can find it.
>> these are the improvements to the roadways surrounding the
property. Someone avenue 49 we have 150 foot right hand turn.
which is a right hand turn lane in an hundred 20 feet of stacking distance when
you go westbound. >> I think it's important to note on that avenue 49 there was a strike area for
staging vehicles which it functions for accommodating traffic that at the
entrance and for the intersection. >> chris, if I may this is george, good evening everyone.
just to clarify the operation of the driveway proposed on avenue 49.
what we've done is you always have to look at the functionality of that
roadway. The functionality of that roadway right now is a 2 lane collector.
what I mean by that is you have the through veins east and west and you have 2
weight centerline in the middle which will operate as a refuge area
specifically for turning. If you have a vehicle that's heading westbound on avenue 49 and the
destination is the church. They're going to pull into that refuge area and there are going to have that time
to be able to move safely into the driveway in case other vehicles are
proceeding east on avenue 49. So the roadway is set up to accommodate these types of full access points and
that has always been the advantage of a property that is on a corner lot.
because the operation of the intersection and driveways will improve you
know when you have that facilitated traffic coming in and out.
if you bounded east instead of making in that case if you want to eliminate
avenue 49 driveway. You have to make a right on jefferson street then you're going to make a
right on avenue 49 and you're going to head east.
you're going through the intersection which creates delays. For the driveway and for the intersection especially when were dealing with an
arterial with the 6 lanes. As you know it's a high demand usually on the 6 lanes.
some accessibility is always safer to be able to utilize a minor street
which is in this case the tilling collector, avenue 40 line specifically I want
to mention for the council. The operation of avenue 49 is as a mean level of service acceptable like
high level of service. There's a lot of capacity over there. Simply because the operation of the peak operation of this land use
happens at the lowest demand on these roadways.
on a sunday morning. Compared to any land use that can be built at that location which would
overlap the peaks of the surrounding land uses. For example residential.
if you could have a multifamily high density residential is going to
overlap with everybody heading out to work and coming back to home.
I just wanted to clarify just a high level and I will be available to answer
any additional questions. Thank you, that concludes my answer. >> so in conclusion and that will go from 2 lanes to approximately 4 that
area?
>> it's phased as a 2 lane. This is auxiliary lane just to make sure any vehicles trying to turn into the
driveway would it impede the through traffic. It will be out of the way.
so it is like an auxiliary lane to facilitate turning movements at those
driveways. Looks okay. And, also were there any consideration or options to keep all entry and exit
routes on jefferson? >> go ahead.
>> george you did your own study on a particular issue. >> absolutely.
we looked at the alternative council member. The only thing we think about, I'm just going to give you a quick scenario
here. Like I said if you are bounded to the church from the east side and you're
heading west on avenue 49. Now you've got instead of making a simple left turn into the driveway which set
up to do so. With the refuge area.
you have to proceed to the intersection. You have to wait for the light.
you've got a make a left and proceed down to the left turn pocket that was created by this project.
you've got to wait for that gap in traffic crossing 3 lanes in order to come in.
that's what's gonna happen at the end of the day. And in the big picture we can't look at this in isolation.
we have to look at it from a holistic approach. Once we have all these parking you're going to end up with one egress point
for the entire project. In case of an emergency you know what's gonna happen, everyone has to funnel
through the jefferson street. Instead of having an emergency evacuation or whatever situation that
comes up. Nobody knows. This is the recent light on a corner lot it will facilitate and improve the
operation of traffic both on driveways and in front of intersections.
I wanted to mention that to make sure and with the elimination of that
movement turned movement on avenue 49 that will deteriorate the level of
service at the driveway along jefferson street. Because now you're pushing everybody to go through that point of access.
>> mayor? >> yes. Of the same question but I would prefer that it come from our staff.
the response. >> exactly. I have a couple of questions along that avenue 49 in a fire lane and so on
and so forth. Mr. Snyder has just walked up.
>> thank you mayor. I'm going to give you the non-technical description with all due respect to
george. So the applicant has proposed what they call food driveway.
that means off of avenue 49 you can turn it right, you can turn out right and you
can turn (so right in which would go into the site.
right now which would go east on avenue 49. You can also turn left to go west on avenue 49 to connect with jefferson.
that's the applicant's proposal. Okay? So this is a consideration for counsel as I mentioned earlier a specific plan
includes infrastructure. As part of your consideration for the specific plan you can
address the provision of infrastructure including access into the site from the public waterway.
alternate considerations for the council include no excess of avenue 49 except
for fire emergency access so there would be a fire emergency access that could
also be utilized if needed for other emergency needs.
and, what you typically called unlimited right in.
it right in only. You would be able to turn right into the site but you will not be able to exit
out of the side onto avenue 49. You have to go out through the site to jefferson street and exit via
jefferson street which would be because there's a meeting on jefferson street you have to turn right.
you have to go up to avenue 48 do you turn if you want himself.
is that helpful? >> I think it certainly is to me an understanding that.
I think one of the clarifications that he said is that everybody would
have to come out but there would be fire, emergency accessible 49 which is but
not necessarily sort of right turn in press into the property and parking
lot. I appreciate the clarification. >> if I can add as I mentioned earlier?
iii party analyze the no movement into the site from avenue 49 right in only and
it did demonstrate that jefferson street could function with some
medications to that but it would function. What remind counsel about early in statement.
jefferson street can handle the traffic if this is what counsel ultimately desires
for f2 49 access either no access or right in only.
>> thank you very much. Mayor pretend to have the any additional questions?
>> I do and then I'll turn it over. What I keep hearing is that there will be a brief inconvenience and sunday
only. That means you're not can have special events or weddings or anything like that because I see with your church it's a natura course of action to have
functions and events. So it's not going to be one hour on sunday that the traffic issues are going to
occur. It's as your church grows as it should.
there will be events. There will be weddings, there will be different things there. In a celebratory manner that will go well beyond sundays, hence my concern
about the proposal for avenue 49.
can ask council is there any other applicants at this point. >> not for the applicant but I have more comments.
>> if you will allow councilmember ortiz and that will go back to staff.
>> I just missed one detail on the avenue 49 left in.
how would that work?
>> my apologies councilmember I think it felt much of that will be left 20 movement as well from avenue 49 heading west you would be able to turn
left into the site. Again this will be full movement. With no access restrictions.
and with the examples I gave on the other alternatives would be
access restrictions either the most extreme be no access to a right and only.
looks when were doing the left and it's a 2 lane road, right? If someone is waiting to go in then the traffic would back up there?
>> I will bring mr. Cream but out and ask him to explain it a little bit more detail.
go ahead, please. >> this portion of 249 as a center to wait left turn lanes that to left turn
lane drops about 300 feet to the east of the site.
that tooling probably will serve the site.
>> okay. Thanks. >> I think at this point councilmember amith if you could hang in there with me
over like to take the public hearing comments at this time and then we can
close a public hearing circle back around and ask questions of staff.
city clerk, the public comments? I assume there are some?
>> is one we can start with susan windham banister.
susan, you have 3 minutes paid.
>> think of so much of the give very much for the opportunity to speak.
the resident and desert river estates. 11 80207 tigris and I'm here to speak against the church.
at the red door project and respectfully request on behalf of the thousands of
residents who move along this corridor. Between jefferson and monroe on 49th you eject this project.
with the exception of the noise study the current studies for the church
project to not have to tilt on the social effects on the surrounding
communities. I think as you heard of this project really does not fit within a general
plan for connective neighborhood. The primary use is residential.
I can't help but wonder out loud when that be nice for example to have
residential senior housing on the corner of 49th and jefferson.
it was certainly contribute to a stable and quiet environment for the residence as opposed to detracting from it.
seniors can walk easily to retell areas.
as you heard the church is going to be a dynamic entity.
including auxiliary buildings that support businesses and functions of
the church. It has 4 phases.
in the specific plan identifies numerous uses of the property beyond the
sunday services. There are 2 churches within walking distance and they sit very nicely in our
community. The church of the red door is a global church.
it aspires to have 2000 members most of whom are not in deal residence.
the specific plan as you note requires a permit for outdoor uses for over 100
people. I think a reasonable person can expect that a church of the size law functions and
exceed that number. He seen open design of the church.
" think we have to believe that with no noise amplification there will be
a lot of noise emanating from the church. Even up 45,000 square feet of business uses in a 958 seat sanctuary.
the church is to large to intense for this corner.
I haven't heard anyone mention the traffic mitigation plan includes
having vehicles stocked on avenue 49th from north to jefferson.
difficult to exit all the community salong but more importantly it's a further
way of proving that the corner really, really can accommodate it.
if any of you have ever spent in that traffic where it is a sense that there's
access path. Look, I think this project could be a lovely addition to indio but, it's just not
right for the corner. I have to wonder if the church is so interested in our community and indio why
not locate the church closer. >> speaker, your time is up. >> correct, city attorney.
everyone is allowed 3 minutes just as a quick reminder. The public hearing process allows an public comment process allows for 3
minutes. Go ahead, next person. >> mayor, we have morgan benson.
>> hello thank you for the opportunity to speak.
from a resident of a deal in a small business owner.
remember that the homeowners association my community and in the
pleasure of serving on the indio sustainability commission.
I'm here to speak against festival men. I ask that the members of counsel asked themselves what does this project
bring to the city? Does it bring extra tax dollars I commend the counsel for proving the low
income housing project that they did today. We definitely need more housing and more low income housing inner-city.
something like this that's a tax exempt entity and does not help our city built itself up to be the best it can be.
the spending dollars in the city through speaker talked about how connected neighborhood I think it's a very good point this type of project is more of a
district type develop another neighborhood type development as per figure 3 for the general plan 2040.
print out the general plan the council to and filled first and promote
development in downtown area and midtown area jackson avenue 42 areas and
I like to add 11 corridor that's been excused and a project like this with its
as pointed out by matt america 111 and avenue 42 and areas in jackson are
far better situated to deal with this hundreds of event goes resource backup is
more pulse was traffic that anyone anticipates and jefferson is a very fast
street. People going to robson citrus plaza make illegal u-turns.
this would just increase the possibility of an accident as well as people
walking across the street. I highly recommend the council denied this application and suggest
that if you're going to be doing rezoning to take a look at the downtown area,
the midtown area, jackson and maybe avenue 42.
it's a little bit or freeway close and better suited for a facility like this.
thank you. >> next speaker is doug comment followed by liz stankus.
doug, you can start speaking now.
>> I was conceived when we go to the next speaker.
hello, are you there? >> that could doug give 3 minutes.
>> I'm sorry about that. Good evening madame mayor colette mayor pro tem councilmembers.
we talk a lot about congestion during different times tonight. I think people will detour through the midcon community.
we tested it out it's very easy detour to take.
I think people often make strange decisions and I think they will opt for
that very quickly coming out of the church. Second point I want to make regarding the downsizing of the church for the
original design which include hundred 12,000 square feet unmodified that
down to 41,000 feet. That's a 64 percent reduction.
I think the original plan, the church came up with that's probably what
they're going to need for the operations downstream. It wouldn't surprise me after the initial 40,000 feet built.
if continued expansion happened after the fact. That would put further significant stress on traffic that is not even
being anticipated now. The final area want to talk about is with regard to utility services
specifically the sewers.
the way it's presented on page 9 of the environmental assessment report is
perfect. I'm gonna read from them. According to the proposed version of the specific plan.
the project site cannot be connected to existing utility networks.
it did not provide a civil engineer â" parent at the time the project was
supposed to connect to a survey that serves desert river estates located east
of the subject site. They refused to provide the superconscious the applicant they decided to
provide sewer by connecting to a main avenue 58 which is about 1/4 mile to the
south of the southern boundary of the subject site. The applicant has not provided the details necessary for staff to
determine whether the project can connect to the necessary utilities and
whether those utilities have capacity to serve a project of this size.
following that it is supposed to be how the applicant has addressed that and there's no answer whatsoever.
I think this is a completely open issue which has not been resolved.
I think the city council for representing the interests of the city of
indio and I encourage the council to turn down this project and I appreciate the time to speak. >> next speaker liz, you may begin.
you have 3 minutes. >> hi, thank you.
I am a wife and a mother and a city indio resident as well.
I lived a block north of the proposed project and the bridge jefferson.
I'm hoping to appeal to the hearts. I don't have the stats on the data I'm just a mom speaking here and hopefully
representing a community of young families in favor of this project of a proposed
church. I feel like indio needs more spaces like this versus the influence of
just festivals and income. Providing opportunities.
I would like it if we could beat within walking distance of the space that
is positive for children and for this community. I've been part of some of these community reach outs and it sounds like the
church is trust a lot of the concern on hearing traffic quite a bit and
it's my understanding while yes, there may be some midday activities, the
primary traffic is good to be in a very one-day week. As far as a sound, I just don't see that being, I hear might neighbors.
inbred:having parties and it's just part of living. I really just don't see this being a major issue and the avenue 49 is
beautiful. I think the church has done quite a bit of work to try to mediate some of the
traffic concerns. Again, I just as a community member I see that space being used for
something positive and if I may speak for all the moms out there who print out may
not be able to get on this call because my husband's taking care my kids right
now and putting them to bed survey may not be able to speak on behalf.
they actually might want to see something like a church there versus more senior
housing. Or more housing that they can't afford. I'm in favor of this project and I'm hoping to appeal to some of the parts
out there and the families, the young families. Thank you.
>> next speaker, becky smith. >> a good evening. Their homes council member and stuff.
my name is becky smith. My husband and I lived on avenue 49 about one half mile east of the proposed
church site. When we purchased our property 1989 it was in the county of riverside.
I worked with the city of indio tectonics avenue 49th on the surrounding area to
the city and create the country estates zone. I served on the indio planning commission, the arts commission and other
communities for the city. We've always been concerned about what would be built on the corner of avenue
49th and jefferson. We realize that large lots and single-family homes like desert river were
highly unlikely to be built along jefferson. We fear the property would be developed with a strip mall.
her shopping center with retail stores and restaurants. Similar to citrus plaza at jefferson and avenue 50.
the city adopted its new general plan last year.
the property at avenue 49 at jefferson was given a new land use designation of
connected neighborhood. The zoning around this area and along avenue 49 was originally ce one.
we need one acre lots. The designation of ce one half acre was added and that even projects with 3rd
acre lots were alone. I would like to address issues that have come up during the planning stages
of this charge project over the last 2 years. While they been working with the city.
many statements during public hearings afterwards have been made better and
accurate as to what the church plans to do on the site. We hope it will see through these erroneous statements and if you have any
questions you will ask the applicant church of the road to door for the true
facts. Zoning connected neighborhood designation under the new general plan
for the corner of avenue 49 at jefferson. What about 20 multifamily units to the acre.
this designation about 260 units in a multistory apartment building.
this would be a very intense use for the area and would have people entering and exiting the property 24/7.
at 2 cars per unit that would be 520 cars.
in contrast the church traffic is primarily on sunday morning.
there are no schoolchildren as there are no school on the site.
this is a place of worship not an event center. Contrary to what it may have been told by those who are not familiar with the
actual plans. Another note on the density of the project.
there is a high likelihood that many of these apartments can be used for short-term rentals many of us on avenue 49 now without means.
what were traffic, a lot more noise and many parties that already plague the
area. I ask that you vote in favor of church of the red door.
thank you very much for your time. >> the next speaker is rick wilt and followed by rudy herrar.
>> yes, can you hear me? >> yes.
thank you for the letting me speak and thank you cancel they get rid door
members. First of all due respect to those that are in favor there were some flaws in
their comments that I will touch on in a minute. I just want to make a few general comments.
all due respect for george and chris. I think chris exact comments were traffic would adhere to the plan.
now, I personally, I equally or I feel that traffic planners are akin
to rather reporters. Whether reporters with modeled statistics, analytics and data cannot
control mother nature just like traffic planners cannot control human
nature. What is going happen and anybody was lived through 3 pigs of coachella and
stagecoach no that human behavior is going to make poor decisions when they're
stuck in traffic. That's can happen on 49th that's can happen on jefferson and it's going to
put residents and fellow drivers at risk. This is a huge safety risk to the community.
although they think it's good to be one day a week we know it's not as it was
pointed out earlier. It's going to be several days a week. Me personally as a resident of indio who goes on walks sunday morning with my
family. The last thing I want is to be at risk as I'm walking down 49th street with my
family sunday morning and seeing lines and lines of traffic backed up and that
people making poor decisions. That's my first comment. Second is is I think doug caught out earlier question to the council.
what is the city of indio benefiting from this project?
we are receiving zero tax dollars for our infrastructure, for our
parks, our communities and schools. As liz pointed out although I make decisions based on my mind over my heart.
as liz pointed out we would love to see more space used for families.
this is not that space. This is not going to give tax dollars back to our community back to our
infrastructure back to our schools and parks. I strongly encourage the council to vote no on this project.
I look forward to enjoying my next 10 to 20 to 30 years as a indio resident
with something that gives back to our community and not space.
thank you for letting me speak.
>> okay, mr. Herrera, you have 3 minutes. >> good evening councilmembers.
my name is rudy herrera. One address a few items regarding some technical aspects of this.
the church has worked very tenaciously with cbw date on connection points.
and the sewer capacity on avenue 50 is well within its capacity to take on the
little impact the church is going to have on the source.
I wanted to touch on that. Iid has served what will serve letters that there's capacity and as well as
indio water authority. In terms of strain on the infrastructure, there is going to be very little
strain. I've heard comments of the church is a going to bring tax dollars of revenue to
the city. Well, if this was to be developed as apartments the city it would be a huge
impact on the parks, the police, the fire.
with just property taxes and I think counsel knows that unfortunately the
residential developer there's no secret there. That residential is a loser.
don't think we will be a significant, the church would be significantly less
impact on all the city infrastructure. So, I did get the mom's name.
I really appreciate what she said. Walk ability for her children to go to a facility like this would be
an amazing thing. I really believe that this church is going to have, yeah, there's traffic
issues one day a week. There could possibly be more traffic other times but, the reality is it's
primarily one day a week and like mrs. Smith said.
if there is to be apartments there could be short-term rental issues.
there could be 24/7 traffic issues. I think the church is a great fit for the site.
all I can ask is graciously asked the council to support this project
because I think it will be a huge benefit for indio. Maybe not economically but in just as a venue for the city of indio for the
residence. >> okay what I do not have any other comments.
>> okay before I close the public hearing does anyone on counsel have questions
of the applicant? >> my apologies tried what I have more more hand raised.
don williams. >> okay.
>> mr. Williams you have 3 minutes. >> yes, can you hear me okay? >> yes.
>> thank you very much. Good evening to the council and madam mayor. A resident of the rencontre neighborhood which is directly across of the 49
from this plant operation. Read: is a residential community.
we have no gates on our doors or access to the street.
we have 2 entrances one avenue 49 and that's called malaga gate and the one on
jefferson street is called corsica gate. I'm concerned about the traffic impact this project will have white
neighborhood. I don't see I don't think anybody could question when the cars vacant leave the
property. There will be a backup at the stoplight 49.
people don't want to turn right or left.
unfortunately human nature is if you look at the mouth and read: no one has given
much thought toward neighborhood recon. Listen to the high-powered traffic engineers and I don't think anybody
addressed rencontre. Truly bill be a backup on avenue 49.
if you look at the map it's an easy job to take a trip to rencontre and bypass all
of this. Those people that would want to fight their way up avenue 49 heading west the
correct turn left to right turn onto verson's easy thing to come make a quick
jog come into rencontre and get out jefferson street with no straighter backup.
concerned about the impact on that. It has not been addressed. This is not one day a week facility.
this is a intensive use and there will be traffic issues like I'm describing
every time there's an event and there are going to be lot of events.
of another question. I thought I saw during the hearings I've been attending tonight that
there is no application outside.
I'm hearing now you can get a permit to do it and I want to have that
clarified. I saw no on-site application. I don't believe it's up with the permit some concerned about that.
last concern is a residential facility on this property. I'm hearing that if it wants to be a use either use the residential you
need a permit but my question is this is limited to a single-family residence? Does the special use permit requirement single-family only or can it be anything
they want to help as long as it's residential? Concerned about that. Thank you very much.
>> okay are we good? >> okay number comments mayor. >> they give that's what we're here for appreciate it.
does the applicant wish to make any final comments or closing statements? >> I think it would be important for some of the perceptions about the
traffic studies that we've done to be little bit more comprehensively described. I think george should give a better picture of how is a traffic study put
together, what are the assumptions we why is it that a church of how is categories of the uses that's categorized with, I can explain it.
it would be better for george to provide more detail for you. There is a lot of perception and a lot of perception becomes reality
and a lot of fear that isn't reality. Inconvenience of having to wait one extra turn in a traffic signal.
it is an inconvenience. But, the time frames that were going to be dealing with in the amount of flow
from east to west to our property is minimal. The amount of turning before anyone hits the quiet environment majority
of the traffic you're talking about on avenue 49 and our traffic will be
heading down that road and the volume that everyone I perceived.
will be backing up in the volume everyone is perceived. Left turn only into avenue 49 I think we'd be open to discuss that.
our traffic studies we've done so that won't really work in the long haul.
so there might be a compromise here for us to get move forward with the
work we've done and done under the guidance of the consultants that the city
has given us to work with and establish the assumptions to prove our
plan. That perhaps maybe we compromise on something where we get them to accept
our plan as is with the monitoring of a certain timeframe like phase 1 it's good the way it is. But you guys gonna monitor your traffic into your site for a period of time and
then when you build phase 2 if you get there, then we gotta talk about it because it's gonna cost more problems. Really folks, we've got a long way to go before 958 seats get built.
and you have these concerns. So I'm gonna let george give an overview. >> mayor come again if someone's can speak on behalf of traffic and
respond to the residence it needs to be the city's consultant not the proponents.
>> well. >> up to if I could just jump in the applicant has right to provide some
rebuttal to the comments that were made and this is the rebuttal portion sought
asked the applicant to keep it short and to have its representatives keep the
rebuttal short so we can continue moving forward. >> thank you.
this is george. I wanted to thank the council giving us this opportunity to really give
a rebuttal and give you the facts based on analysis that was done in
coordination with city staff that was approved, following the rules, guidance and regulations and everything was addressed through
intersection analysis, segment analysis, access point analysis and killing
analysis. Everything we've done follow the guidelines. I think, there's nothing special about this project.
the rules are the rules. We applied to a church. Reply to a commercial site.
we apply it. There's something different about it. Just to let you know I know there were questions and comments about avenue 49.
avenue 49 house and lot of capacity. The level of service based on analysis that we've done, it shows a level of
service a. For that segment analysis.
which gives you an idea. Acceptable level by the city is d.
so that gives you the capacity available on that street.
so the intersection analysis showed level of service c.
at the frontage. Which there's a lot of capacities that yet the operation of the driveways.
the operating adequate level of service. Once you start closing an moving all of the inbound traffic to jefferson street
like one gentleman mentioned that it's a fast rate. Typically you want your full access on a minor street which is set up to
do so. Was whited for specific recent close to the intersection to provide
that refuge area. To allow accessibility for driveways at that location.
by moving everything to jefferson you are pushing everyone accessing the site
to cross 3 lanes maybe the left turn in which I have to wait for a gap.
this is what we provided as an extension of the left turn down from jefferson
street and 49. If you cannot make that any want to continue you could continue.
it wasn't meant to be the main access point. That's the reason. Only push everything over there it will fail.
it shown a failure of level of service. I want to leave you with that notion just to let you know that this is what we
are proposing is based on technical facts. This is how things analyze, disclosed and highlighted in the environmental
document. That's what it's based on. So, thank you very much for the opportunity and I will be here and available to
answer any questions you may have. Thank you. >> thanks george are be able to let pastor cranford close.
I don't think there's any more rebuttal muscles questions. We want to let pastor grant.
>> just rebuttal, for any evidence that was presented so it's not another time to
speak. >> know it has to do the monetary by the church versus cultural and
community value that was attacked or brought up as a concern for not providing a
tax base to the city. So jeff, would you close.
>> really think there's very specific parameters around this. I think the rebuttal about with respect to the traffic and whatnot is very
pertinent. At this point I'd like to close the public hearing and give counsel an
opportunity to discuss this and discuss with staff. At this time the public hearing is closed.
and I will ask my fellow councilmembers whether pleasure is and if they
have any additional questions for staff and for the traffic coordinator
etc. >> I want to make a couple points clear.
may I mayor? >> please, absolutely. >> the southern border of rencontre was built when the community was built
that was prior to any of the country estates being developed.
when we incorporated south of avenue 4849 or whatever it was back then.
that's when we adopted the country rule road.
this right turn lane is not something that we developed it was something
that was there prior to the country estates being developed.
as far as the center lane that exists on the east side of jefferson.
it is for the staff backup that happens on a daily basis.
the country estates area is not an 8 â" 5 community.
it's not filled with professionals that go to work at 8 come back at 5.
it's a mixed community with a lot of seniors. A lot of seasonal residents.
snowbirds as you would refer to them. Also the backup staff on the east side of jefferson on 49 is also caused by the
service vehicular traffic that is entering rancho iquitos service gate that
is across the street on the west side of jefferson on the la quinta side.
on a daily basis the community members that lived in that area see in
excess of traffic at all hours of the day not just 8 â" 5.
especially on weekends when they are trying to do their shopping at one of the
neighboring commercial facilities. Avenue 49.center street cannot really take anymore stocking.
sardi backed up as it is with the residential traffic that goes through
there. On a daily basis. And I wanted to ask staff if they had any further discussion on the
alternatives should we consider eliminating the evident 49 access.
>> stuff, please?
>> mark? Would your consulting transportation engineer. So knowing this was an issue we took the opportunity to create a
display of one possible alternative. There's 3 alternatives I believe the play here.
as the applicant presented which is full access on avenue 49.
then it's been discussed to prohibit left turns into the project driveway but
allow left or right turns out.
the alternative we came up with is to allow right turns into the site only.
no exiting from the site at all. So what that does is eliminate any traffic on avenue 49 east of the site.
you cannot approach the displays on the screen now.
with this alternative if you approach the site from the east you could not turn
left into the project. I guess you could turn left onto jefferson and then left into the site on the
jefferson driveway. He also could not exit the site in any way.
you could turn left or right coming out of the site. This alternative I think is a little bit better than allowing zero access on
avenue 49 in that it probably would relieve some of the congestion that's
potentially could happen at the southbound left turn into the jefferson driveway
if that was the only driveway. This is kind of an alternative between the other 2 a full access or no
access. I also while I have the form wanted to address the capacity, the applicant's
engineer project part of capacity on avenue 49. While it is true that current traffic plus the project would be level of
service 8 which is great. But, that's not what that's addressing it as as if it was a general plan street.
arterial such as jefferson.
avenue 49 is not. It's a collector at best. Those standards, when you're evaluating that you should take into
consideration that those standards are met for major arterials not necessarily
for collectors. So if you're a resident in the neighborhood I don't think that standard is
going to be acceptable. So something for you to keep in mind.
without I will close for now. >> can I ask rebuttal question.
>> can I make sure councilmember amith has finished. You have any other comments of staff?
>> is the only option that they have for us tonight? >> this is the only option that staff prepared.
>> so I guess I heard 3 options if you don't mind heard the option you
presented. I heard that you could just not turn right on 49 just have a fire lane. Then I heard the full so?
>> we don't have a chart of the note access alternative that's easy to visualize.
>> okay. At this point doesn't answer your question councilmember amith?
>> summer options are no excess of 49 the alternative which is right
in and no egress. And or the proponents option of ingress and egress.
>> right. Correct. >> thank you. Thank you.
>> councilmember miller? >> they give her comments are. Let me ask a question.
you've got 2 things. He said it wasn't an issue going on 49.
now you're saying that it's not the same as arterial road. Are you telling me it's unsafe what he is proposing to go on 49?
>> no, I'm not saying that. >> he went from being it's okay to now it's not an 8 and it could be something
else. The residents we've heard from excited about it. >> by little 49th one of the biggest property owners is becky smith who owns a
large portion. She doesn't seem to think it's a problem.
I want to make sure it's, your professional opinion about your own opinion.
is the traffic person that did the study for the developer wrong?
>> no and if like I've confused you and if I've confused you I've confused others so let me try to straighten it out.
what the applicant's engineer mentioned was level of service a.
a 2 lane road can handle at least 12,000 cars a day. That would be level service d or e.
on the other hand that's what people would expect street like a jefferson or
monroe avenue 50. Avenue 49 is none of those kinds of streets it's more as a collector.
so from a quality of life perspective is where I made the shift audio. From a traffic perspective it's great it's level service a. From a quality of life perspective residents are likely on one hand is
perfect for traffic but residents are unlikely to be satisfied. Does it mean it's unsafe it's just not meeting her desires.
>> thank you. And so if we funnel them let saint not down 49th.
we utilize that area. We put them all in jefferson.
and go down. You can't make a u-turn on 49th.
so everybody and according down to 48th. Multiple lanes. To turn around and go back the other way or go down 48th.
which has more capacity. You're gonna force people to bottleneck up on 48th which is already a slope
area as it is. So, where to the people go?
is it aqua bottle 8 on 40 eighths? You're making people go back around have to go anywhere else.
>> northbound u-turn is allowed 49 of the signal. So the traffic could do u-turn 49.
>> if they want to cross 3 lanes to get a particular site. >> with the signal.
the signal 49. Or they might come to 48 so, yes it would create more northbound traffic on
jefferson. Jefferson is a strength that's well-equipped to handle that extra traffic.
in those u-turn movements. >> try to make sure people don't take the 3 lanes across to go from there
trying to get on 49th and make that mistake were trying to do it because you
don't want to go up to 48th best people have said it's the nature of people. Person you're going to do is want to shoot across there.
try to play devils advocate to make sure traffic is subjective to different
issues.
we have a new property we put on his own 50th which is a single lane each way
we put multiple houses on their with the hundred 25 on there.
that the seem to have impact on that road time trying to be curious why the church on saturday or sunday that has 238 cars this can have a big of an
impact when we have another street on the other side of it that single lane are all
going down to one area in its housing of over hundred 25 homes that didn't have
an impact on it. I'm a little confused on traffic.
>> we are trying to address concerns of the community has product.
that's why it's to similar situations are being treated differently and
f-150 didn't seem to be a problem on how to 49 it seems to be a problem.
were trying to find a solution. >> I appreciate that. What's possible I have the floor another thing we've talked about a lot tonight
is traffic counts. How much traffic is generated from this project.
the study this projects projected to generate about 1350 cars a day.
on typical weekday it's also expected to generate little over 800 cars a day.
be careful to keep in mind is not traffic free on a weekday.
it does generate a fair amount of traffic. Although that's not much traffic for site the size.
traffic nonetheless. >> I appreciate it, thank you. Kevin if I could ask question.
so, we looked at some of the stuff and I'm trying to figure out they talked
about the grass because that's one of the businesses I'm in.
probably going to then no one any commercial building not allow any turf
whatsoever in any of her other properties coming on? Is there a reason why a property like this would not be able to utilize
grass in some way? >> councilmember's part of the zoning code update that will be one of the policy
questions that will be presented to the commission counsel is we have a
climate action plan for the city council adopted. Do you want authority has goals for conservation, water conservation.
this leads to a natural question of what is the policy orientation towards
landscaping of the city of indio? We want to encourage more desert friendly landscape that reduces water
consumption need the community. So this particular instance you are establishing zoning for the property.
this is opportunity for th council to make the policy decision today or to not
make the policy decision. That is the question in front of you. Staff felt it was appropriate given the size and scale of property.
the minimization of turf for all the reasons I just ate it would be appropriate
for development of the site but that is a staff opinion and recommendations not necessarily part of the city council.
>> I just think probably that size is have some turf. Saint turf is a large amount.
I say they could have it and start there. Seems like a little bit of overkill for property that size try to keep people
there. Our brand golf courses.stuff. It's drought tolerant but it raises the temperature up in that area very
heavily. To make property that size not have any kind of turf I think would be a little bit
unreasonable. Then on the amphitheater I can understand part of that.
it seems to me these people have continued to bend for whatever we did from 11,000
hundred 11,000 square feet down to 41.
from amphitheater to know amphitheater. Seems like were putting continuous boundaries on this property.
having not continue to bend on a lot of things are is or something that the
planning commission are you looking to get? I understand where you're at. I mean is there anything that they need to do past this if we were to approve
this that will change? >> just to clarify councilmember the statement with figure about
amplification? >> they also talked about having amphitheater at one time she took out because
he didn't want noise. Not to be able to have an outside event because of a wedding or something else
which is natural for church. We have a well ph of the heart of our city.
the task of school on that and it doesn't seem to affect the residence there.
I'm trying, not blaming you, please let me finish. Probably review trying to see why there's a different standard.
jefferson has 3 lanes, we have 49th house lane. We have a well ph middle varsity that has a school and everything else.
none of the residents really seem to have a problem with it. Just once in.
I think this really will too. Try to grasp of why this is so much different than anything else.
>> we respond like code an I'll be brief. As your credit the applicant has consistently responded to concerns
raised by the community and our staff. They want to find a proposal several times in response to that.
that's acknowledged in his been acknowledged this evening. The issue of sound amplification it really comes down to community
impact. The council decision that is in development standard operational standard.
the council could decide that it's supported the utilization that within the
parameters of the city's noise ordinance. The outdoor events, they are permitted but the current specific plan as
written would require temporary permit issued to the community development department.
it's not that they wouldn't fix anything above attendees. Anything below hundred attendees who do not need to get the permit.
as it was stated earlier it does, there's a likelihood for attendees over that's
that's what they would be engaging with us and we would go through a careful
review process with multiple departments to make sure we're mitigating impacts were appropriated.
>> I appreciate, thank you for your hard work and your spouse artwork on this.
thank you. That was a question of can ask city councilmember miller.
they understood a church has to have events. But the reality of what they do.
not only do weddings but the 2 gatherings of all different types, shapes and
descriptions. That's what I wanted to clarify. So yes.
>> one correction I sincerely apologize. In the early integration it was anything over hundred.
the current integration is any temporary event. In any event they would need to get a temporary permit.
whether it's under 100 over hundred that was a concession for the applicant so I apologize for making that mistake.
>> is applicant asking to have that we changed? >> no.
>> okay. Thank you. >> okay any other questions what with the pleasure of account some of her being?
>> councilmember ortiz? >> I have comments. Just one comment on the f2 49 and f2 50.
I do think it works better with the full access 49 and 50.
if you look at jefferson first what you can have a huge bottleneck of
everybody coming in at jefferson. Anybody wants to go down 49 still gonna go down 49.
just gotta make a right on jefferson 49. Then you have other issue that mr. Miller is talking about more people are
trying to cross the 3 lanes right before the traffic light.
which is even more dangerous right. To try to get all 49 going west.
I would be in support of keeping full access on both entrances.
>> go ahead. >> I actually want to think the applicant, the pastor and his churchgoers for
bringing this church to our city. There is a comment made earlier that there's no revenue generated when we
bring these places of worship to our community. There is revenue generated.
it's spiritual. There saving folks. I appreciate the applicant bringing it and I'm also sad that there will be a
school on the property because I believe that the church front doors is
growing in our community. It's out from its current location.
and that's what brings us to this location.
what I would like to ask may be given or the applicant can answer,
whether any locations other than this that were looked at in the city of indio
because the applicant, yes has made a lot of modifications.
to this plan. This was over a 2-year period. So whether any other locations in our city that were looked up for this
project? >> councilmember I cannot speak on behalf of the applicant they did make
reference earlier that the conduct several years worth of looking for property and
as I think the statement is that kept coming back to this property.
as part of the city's review process we did not do alternative sites
consideration. >> as for the city of india there were no other quick.
>> on our efforts we do not look at other sites, correct?
>> okay no further comments bear. >> I'm going to thank you ask with the city attorney's guidance if we
can sort of maybe take this in terms of looking out avenue 49 right?
there's 3 options. This will access all 49. There is access where you turn right on there's ingress but not egress in
their spiraling only. No return.
>> I think what you're trying to say is maybe get everyone's thoughts on what the council believes should happen on avenue 49 to see if there's some type of
consensus with respect to that and if not a discussion.
>> I couldn't have said it better. Who wants to quit. >> mention my preference and expelling my preference which is full access all
4950. >> full access.
>> I can agree with that full access on 49 part of another recently and I go
down the law. The dynamic of the area in the community I don't believe is assigned for
fluxes of the structure of this magnitude in that area.
>> I would prefer not to have full access.
councilmember amith? >> from day one the community has expressed their concern with any
potential impacts on avenue 49. As our traffic consultant stated the quality of life would be diminished for
those residents on property owners on avenue 49.
I'm not supportive of any excess 49.
>> so it seems like there is to double for for fluxes into unnecessarily full
access quote well that means were eternally or just fire lane maybe you
could take a read with respect to whether a right turn only would be a
compromise. >> understand that and I would support return only but I think it still unzipping 2 â" 2.
>> got 2 â" 2 â" 1. >> let me not put words in custom informants wealth.
would you support return access or no quick.
>> and for this proposal is also the existing property of the house to start which
would have access, extra access, right? >> no councilmember taxes that will go to the house if you look at the current
image that's on the screen. Once you enter the site there will be separate drive to access the
residence. It would not have it own access on avenue 49.
>> so it's connected to. >> right as you come in you'll see the circle round about it would be if you're
looking at it it would be to your left as you went around the roundabout at up
the drive into the house. >> I just don't agree with any excess other than emergency access on avenue
49.
>> well, I guess I would support limited at best limited express at this
point that lives was divided even more so.
>> so to move forward if that was the desire to constantly specific plant
every requires 3 affirmative vote and only say that so in case anybody
was looking at extensions or because of certain issues so I wanted to
preface that for the council and with the avenue 49 and there doesn't seem
to be a consensus with respect to that. If there's something else that stuff can look at.
>> I guess from my perspective I initially really believed no access
on 49. I moved a little bit away from doubt.
after hearing the traffic engineer. If we were to look at access now.
at some point in the future cannot be reevaluated? >> the answer is yes mayor it could be reevaluated in the future.
it would need to be compliant city of indio engineering standards.
it's a bit like we looked out the future if the applicant and the city
ultimately agreed to that. Want to make one point. Earlier the applicant a rebuttal made the term, mice.
the council is under no compromise. This is a technical consideration of the council is free to make his
decision however it chooses as it relates to axis of the property as a
infrastructure component of the specific plan consideration. >> if I can ask mr. Snyder a question.
the issue of access be a subpart of the specific plan documents or is not
something that goes through plan check with respect to the engineer?
so just were clear that if the council doesn't reach a consensus with respect to
axis how does that affect the specific plan document? >> the specific plan again by state law has infrastructure component.
the specific plan is proposed to the city council hospital movement access onto avenue 49.
if the council does not want to support that access onto avenue 49 and needs
to take some sort of action to direct what access it does support so that is
clear if this project is to go forward under future considerations by either
planning commissioner, city staff that the access is direction of the city
council being followed appropriately. >> 'sare back to my original question.
>> I do not support full access. In lieu of that so we can move something then let's look at no access at this
point under standing that this could be reevaluated in years at some point the
future. I really don't want that additional traffic going on avenue 49.
the quality of life. That role. All the things the community is discussing is a huge concern of mine at
this juncture in this project. I will be iii not allowing access other than fire, emergency access on 49.
>> mayor, I don't think there's enough turn capacity for fire to use
that 49. >> I will leave that to the experts.
can you expand on that please?
>> obviously any emergency access will be designed in coordination and consultation with the fire department.
we would certainly review that with them in detail as part of the plan review
process to make sure if there's any modifications and avenue 49th need to be done to accommodate that we would require that of the applicant.
>> okay. I would absolutely concur with that. >> okay.
any other comments or issues at this point?
>> willing to go the ingress only. But the only other option would be no access at all.
I just think it's got a massive redo no excess of 49. >> I think I need to evaluate that after the fact because just don't
feel that it's appropriate at this point to really allow a lot of access there
on avenue 49. All right, that being said.
>> I guess would ask the council if there any other right now the document set
up to get there sorry. For no amplified sound and also that the residential use, state residential list
to receive the cup for any of the uses for that residential portion.
>> also no turf. >> and no turf. >> a note if the council does take action on avenue 49 along with any
amendments this would need to be in the context of amendments to the specific plan paid.
>> of just trying to pick out what points the council has been discussing so if I
missed anything I think those are the 3 other ones. >> turf.
>> will ask a question of staff.
other churches do we allow amplified sound? >> in our process if there is outdoor activities at other churches in the city
they are required to go through temporary use permit process of evaluate
the use of amplified sound so I can't say conclusively we haven't allowed it because we may have another instances.
I don't have exempts a divine we would evaluate it. There's issues like close proximity to residents we will typically about allow
it to minimize impacts of the event onto the residence.
>> want to make sure were providing equal opportunity for all other religious
groups. >> understood. >> can you get back to us on that if it's up to hundred people if her other
churches in this regard please department can let us know who has opportunities to do that.
if not they will get a complaint in public safety. I like to know for myself.
exposure saint, it is an equal playing full? >> I want to know if is equal playing field.
I'm not picking on any church I think we should treat every church every organization the same.
before not like to see who's doing it and see why and if we change the rules
us were going along because putting in new rules then as long as it's equal for
any other business. If it's a chocolate branch or whatever it needs to be the same way.
ask any additional call comments?
>> the current practice al churches that have outdoor events go through temporary
use process and has been a practice to not allow outdoor amplification of
sound. We will certainly do the research that the council member as form and share
that information with the council member the rest of the council to confirm statement I just made.
>> thank you. Because I would like to go back and reevaluate the whole concept of no turf.
that is a massive expanse to have hundred and 20 degree heat on no turf.
I completely agree from an aesthetic point and for many points of view.
I don't know how the rest of my council members feel. Is there a preferred percentage that we would consider within the range
or realm of water conservation and still allow for little bit of
green softening of that space. >> applicant asked for consideration under the india water authority
standards as it pertains to perfect usage and water conservation that's one
option. The council could as the mayor pointed out the percentage of site as an
example only over the 50 percent of the site could be turf.
again your sunny development standards for the site. You have the leeway to establish those.
the applicant's request is to follow iwa direction on this.
>> on the fight w guidance canvas may provide any information with respect to
what that is? Is her set percentage? I think it would help the council to help some more information other than just
under the iwa guidance. >> that would be great. General manager ray the request is under the iwa guidelines for use of turf
what specific standards percentage of turf or things like that?
>> is required to meet and we out garments for development.
I can't tell you what it is. I don't think in any case I've ever experienced zero.
I would have to do some research to know what it is. Were more than willing to work with them to figure out what the right number
is. Not a problem. >> theatrically requested to go through their landscaping through the iwa
guidelines, correct? >> that is correct. >> think that certainly helps me.
everybody on board with that process and considering the little bit
of that. >> have a question about that. >> go right ahead.
>> of the jefferson street or the 49th street perimeter is there any
birmingham that's going to be dealt with the landscaping or are they
just going to put in ground level or street level turf?
>> councilmember equitable describe the landscape plan assumed by the applicant.
it shows the areas they're proposing to turf as well as areas are having for
dessert oriented landscaping. You can see along the frontage but the majority of the frontage of
jefferson and avenue 49 is desert appropriate landscaping.
as you go further into the site the transition to turf areas as exhibited on the
site plan. As the, if this does go forward and it goes back to planning commission we will
have a detailed landscape plan review as part of tha planning commissions
design review process. >> I would like to suggest some birmingham to soften the edge on the 49.
I don't know how to propose that.
>> landscape plan is refined during the design process, is that correct?
>> we could make an amendment to the specific plan that states landscape
birmingham to be required along avenue 49 and it can be reviewed by the planning
commission as part of the review process. >> with that compromise I' be willing to consider some turf area and grass area.
>> all right. We'll go with that? Does anybody have any concerns about that?
that's fine with me. >> turf am fine with. Stop problems with access.
I just don't know where else to put the entrance. You're all gonna go in and out of the same spot?
if the building is there where else to they go kevin?
all about that one entrance? All out and end of the one?
>> the short answer councilmember is yes. >> might try mid-america and maybe councilmember ortiz mentioned that.
returning right onto jefferson and you want to head east you could head down 49 anyway.
so it's consideration. >> it's crazy.
>> maybe wallace told before it may or may not be of some help. There are other uses that could occur on this property that would have
much more traffic than the church would provide.
certainly this access 49 seems to be little exaggerated.
as a concern. >> okay. Well, counsel where we stand?
>> did you want to talk about before you revisit the access baby talk about
everybody okay with the residential use only except for the cup for any other
types of uses? Just to let you know the tentative map as such so there's 2 parcels one
parcel with the church parcel one parcel is a residential parcel and the
only use that a lot on the residential parcel is a single-family residential
home. >> I guess one of the things that came up is in the future there could
potentially be some events. I guess I want to ask that question.
the events component of that may require a cup or something.
how does the rest the council film about currently is residential
use only the potential for future use. >> it's already used as a special offensive menu.
>> oh, it is? >> yeah. >> if they asked for cup I don't have a problem with that.
>> that's what I was thinking exactly. >> that's the way to do it if it's hearty like that.
>> I completely agree unhappy saving the house as well. I agree.
already. At this point city attorney is there a next step in terms of counsel, what is
your pleasure? >> I think we still have given direction on the burm.
>> that's gonna be part of the design review. Thus on decision we have to make now.
>> it will be part of the planning commission. They would have the discretion to do it or not doing.
as part of the design review even though we have landscape standards. >> I think I suggested to signal counsel's intent.
you could add a simple sentence to the specific plan is amendment that says
landscaper is required along avenue 49 the details would be reviewed by your
planning commission as part of the design review process. >> what does a berm, no berm sets things up?
there's irrigation issues. It depends on what kind of berm. >> gave you generic leg which tell of the public commission to go to the
design progress. The council wants to be more specific it's your right. >> if we want to burm.
that something counsel number amith throughout.
it seems like were trying to throw as much things as possible.
it's crazy. >> if there's no desire to play something which it could be direction from the
council. >> for consideration that may or may not.
right, that would be my perspective. I don't want to add all of that we must.
it is for consideration. We have the request.
it may make sense. Let's consider it. Then again it may not make sense paid.
>> at that's a counsel direction will care that back to the planning commission process. >> is everyone in agreement or not?
>> yes with existing standard for avenue 49 is will be a trail.
that's another part of the design review.
>>. >> mayor pro tem did you have any questions?
I'm not ready to make that determination on berm at this point.
does it matter? Make a decision on that tonight?
>> no doesn't. Christopher, berms and heights.
>> about architectural design person at this point. Got some good as the council is our motion, does anyone wish to make a
motion at this point? And what with that motion be?
>> will stuff put up the recommendation so we know what to make motion off of?
that's a very simple version of what's in your packet.
>> such provide the council may be some guidance with the resolution number 102
14 I don't think there's any issue without that's environmental.
the ordinance number 1761 is to approve the specific plan and based on the
discussion of the council just had there was consensus with respect to
remove the requirement that there be no turf I know that's a double negative.
and to allow the applicant to follow the iwa standards and guidance.
and that being no access at least a majority there will be no access from avenue 49
except for emergency access.
>> that's gotta be part of that motion for the second bullet item.
>> correct. >> to want 3 separate motions? >> I think we will need them.
>> it will be 3. You have to take the resolution 10214 separately and first before you can
move forward on either the ordinance or the tentativ map.
explicate all move resolution 10214 adopting negative declaration
mitigation monitoring and reporting it. >> thank you, to hear second?
>> I will second. >> I have a second bite councilmember clint miller.
can we please have roll call vote. Try to. >> motion passes unanimously.
the second bullet ordinance 1761 approving the church of the red door specific plan with respect to the concerns of turf and avenue 49.
do I hear motion? >> I will motion to approve 1761 approving the church of the red door specific
plan. With the amendments that we allow inquiry is only a 49 that we allow turf in conformance with iwa's requirements.
and that's it, right? >> all make an alternative motion that what is number 1761 approving the church of the red door specific plan with no access on avenue 49 and the iwa turf
standards. >> correct. We have a second on that? >> correct we have a motion on the floor there was a verse and I believe there
second bite councilmember miller and a second motion can be placed on the floor under roberts rules and that was ms. Amith's motion that would be with no
excess of 49 and iwa perfect pursuant to iwa standards that we need a second. We would take the second motion first.
the second motion passes. We don't hear the first motion. The second motion excuse me if the second motion does not pass that we would take up the original motion.
>> so we have a second motion with respect to ordinance 1761 approving the church of the red door specific plan with no ingress on avenue 49 and
with whatever turf is allowed under the iwa requirements.
>> second motion is not accessible 49.
>> will have the fire only.
correct. >> you need a second. >> all right. Is there a second force fire access only for the second bullet illustrating
no axis other than fire on after 49.
>> I will second that. >> may have a roll call vote please.
>> the clerk will take the roll call vote on the substitute motion which is
to approve excuse me to introduce ordinance number 1761 way full reading read
by reebok total only by the amendment there be no axis of 49 except for fire
access only. In that elimination of the turf provision and substitute that any
landscaping be per iwa standards and guidelines.
>> that motion passes. >> will the clerk read the title of ordinance number 1761.
>> and orders of the city council city of indio california adopting the church of the red door specific plan crd â" sp, sp 20 â" 05 â" 40 for the
establishment of zoning regulations of land uses developments standards and design standards on a 13.7 acre of land.
generally located at the southeast corner of avenue 49 and jefferson street. In the city of indio california.
apn zero 602 â" this.[indiscernable]. 602 â" 060 â" 002. >> thank you.
madame mayor you still need a motion 10 125. >> absolute to I hear a motion for resolution number 10125 837899?
>> all make a motion to approve resolution number 10215 proverty tentative parcel map tentative parcel map 20 â" 403.
>> to have a second? >> I will second. >> of a second bite councilmember ortiz may have oral call vote please.
>> okay. At this point I would like to request, it is 8:50. I like to take a 5 minute break.
then we will come back and return to the diocese about 8:55. >> give us a moment longer. We will get back to the meeting.
bear with us please. Okay it's 859. The call the meeting back to order.
we are going to move on to the next public hearing. Really have about 7 or 8 to go. Hang in there.
that would be item intensity request for a certificate of public convenience and necessity to allow for the sale of beer and wine for the
consumption of the premises requested my chandi empire incorporated for convenience store within the chandi empire plaza located at 81965 indio
boulevard type 20 license. Mr. Snyder. So glad you were up. >> madame mayor, commitment etc. I like to ask gestapo gomez assistant clinic to
give you a brief concise staff report and be available to answer your questions. >> poor guy.
come on down. We will be gentle I promise. >> good evening madame mayor and members of city council my name is best to
stop gomez assistant planner. Before you is it a shot it plaza a new convenience store. The applicant is chandi empire the proposed location is 81965 indio
boulevard. Just a quick background on the project it has gone through the atonement
process for the planning commission and city council. They've approved the design review the condition use permit for the convenience
store and fuel station for it. This slide shows the area of analysis. It's census tract 0452.09 rep measures 0.79 square miles.
as a population of 5441. There is approximately 1000 714 residential homes based on the 2010 census data.
the california department of alcohol and beverage control abc as a regular regulating authority for alcohol licenses.
the census track is authorized to have 3 of sale alcohol license. The currently there are 5 establishments who currently have an off sale
alcohol license in this track. There is undue concentration. State law does offer abc to issue additional licenses if the legislative body in
this case the city council determines that the applicant suffices request
serves a public convenience and necessity. This requires a public hearing. The applicant is requesting for certificate of a public convenience and necessity
to about a type xx of sale beer and wine for consumption off the premises.
here is a slide showing the proposed site where for the new convenience store and also with the existing 5 alcohol licenses that are in the truck.
this slide I want to demonstrate that based on existing on the census track is being analyzed around the proximity of one mile radius from the
subject property there are other 6 more also alcohol license for office cell consumption. This is the proposed floor plan for the convenience store market.
they are proposing to have a beer cave, a walk-in and some area for behind the cashier to have alcohol display area.
so the total display area consists of 369.5 square feet which is comprised of approximately 9 percent of the total retail sale of the convenience store.
some analysis behind the public convenience and necessity is that as part of the review the police has done a background check and has approved the
background check has no special conditions for it. For the application the site is located within an active commercial area
along a major thoroughfare which is indio boulevard. It has some buffer around the surrounding neighborhood areas.
the new convenience store will be within new commercial development, chandi empire plaza and offer customer having a convenience to get their
snacks prepackaged food and also beverage needs. Without its recommendation to approve the request to issue a certificate of
public convenience and necessity to allow the sale of beer and wine for consumption off the premises top 20 license requested by chandi empire ink for a convenience store with a new chandi empire development located at
81965 indio boulevard indio california.
thank you that concludes my staff report.
I believe the applicant is available and staff can answer questions you might
have. Thank you.
>> before we open the public hearing, ask counsel if there's any questions of
staff? Please go right ahead.
>> how common is it to have the recommended concentration is 3 stores
for that census track, right?
>> that is correct. It's based off of population on the census tract. >> I guess my question is how common is it to have double the concentration of
what's recommended? >> let me see if I can help kevin snyder director of community development.
throughout the city of india the reason these can be counsel because we have
undue concentration all of the city. Under the regulations that are established by abc this does require counsel
consideration. It is fairly common in our city.
>> thank you. >> okay.
if there's no other comments all up with the public hearing.
public hearing is open. Does the applicant wish to speak?
>> good afternoon, good evening. Mayor councilmembers this is â" on behalf of the applicant chandi empire
overthink gustav about the planning stuff has been very helpful with our team
guiding us through the process. We appreciate all that you do I know it's been a long night.
I will say it is very important for us to have the license for the
business operations and with the existing licenses that are in the area you
could see the traffic patterns that when they show them they are not
immediately along this route. They are not at a gas station or customer can stop, gas up and pick up
any convenience items they may need whether it's a burger, a loaf of bread or 86 pack of beer or a bottle of wine to take home to the family.
I don't know about you guys but I've been on the phone all night and ready for a drink. Thank you very much.
>> 5. Thank you very much. Does anyone have any questions of the applicant?
>> I have one question. Hello tony I travel over the bridge frequently and see there's a lot of construction work going on and you guys are moving pretty fast.
java, no completion of the project? >> if my boss was on the phone he would take next week.
we actually have a little process going on we hope to be open by the end of july. If not sooner. Talks wow.
>> thank you. >> getting things done that's pretty awesome. >> that's what we do. Thank you.
what did you have something? I'm just tired of all the girls here. Settle down.
public hearing is open there any public comments? City clerk? >>.
>> no mayor there is none.
>> I would like to entertain a motion.
>> make a motion to approve across of issuing certificate of public
convenience and allow the seller beer one for consumption off premises
requested by chandi empire for a convenience store within chandi empire plaza
located 81965 indio boulevard type xx license.
>> I will second. >> have a motion and a second we have a roll call vote please.
of course, thank you. We look forward to having your facility open.
>> all right onto the next public hearing.
stay with us tony right? [laughter], bye. >> item number 10 d.
resolution number 10209 a perfect tentative parcel map number 37826.
tpm 20 â" 11 â" 409 to subdivide an existing parcel of land generally
located west of jefferson street and south of avenue 40 into 4 parcels and
designate every winter and finding the object is exempt from california
environmental quality act. Staff? It's getting late.
>> mayor mayor proton-m, kevin so your community director.
we will enter domination of tonight's agenda. I would like to re-invite gestapo, his assistant planner back up to give you
a brief and concise staff report and answer questions you might have regarding
this item. Thank you. >>. >> good evening, mayor and members of the of the council.
before you was 1/40 avenue property parcel 37826.
case number tpm 20 â" 11 â" 4-. The applicant is brian jensen and he applied back in december second 2020.
the request was to subdivide approximately 4 acres of, oh I'm sorry.
4 acres of the 4 parcels and designate a remainder which includes existing
mobile home on that remainder. The project site is located south of avenue 40 and west of jefferson street.
the address is 74 533 avenue 40. Assessors parcel number 607 â" 24 â" 0015.
the general plan designation is workplace employment and the current
zoning is a business park.
here are some existing conditions of the site. As you can see there is th mobile home which will be part of that remainder.
as you can see it's been partially improved so that there is access to this
property. Here is the tentative parcel map. And here is a close-up of the 4 parcels that are being broken down and with
the remainder at the bottom left-hand corner.
here is a breakdown of that. It shows the remainder. Everything this is for the subdivision they are not proposing development at
this time. The zoning in the general plan designation will remain in place.
some planning commission review process. On april 4th the planning commission, there's a public hearing notice that
was released to the desert sunday the deseret news newspaper and a certified
property owners list of 300 square feet radius on april 1.
on april 4 the planning commission secretary for the lack of quorum
adjourned the meeting and they continued to a date of april 28.
at this meeting on april 28, 2021 the planning commission held a hearing
them stop public comments made and after planning commission deliberations
they voted for â". To adopt the resolution number 1986 to recommend to the city council to approve
parcel number 37826. The planning commission's recommendation to adopt resolution number 10209
approving tentative parcel map number 37826 case number tpm 20 â" 11 â"
409. Subdivide existing parcel of land into 4 parcels and designate a remainder
subject to the findings and approval there and in determining the project is
category exempt of the california environmental quality act sequence
section 153 minor land divisions. That includes my staff report.
staff is here to answer questions you may have.
>> thank you. Percival have a question. What is the term remainder?
that was new to me. >> to help me to do it?
>> yes please. >> typically it's just what it says.
it's left over. It's I don't know. >> are you separating for new lots and then leaving the old lot as the
remainder? >> correct. >> I'm just guessing. I don't know.
>> all right I knew there was an official term there.
thank you all for that. Does anyone have the questions of gestapo or any other staff member?
questions? Going once, going twice. I open the public hearing.
okay. Public hearing is open. Does the applicant wish to speak?
>> don't believe we help them on. >> all right, is there any public comment?
>> no comments mayor. >> any comments type, shape or anything? I will put clothes the public hearing and asked the council what is your
pleasure? >> I'll make a motion to adopt resolution number 10209 approving tentative
parcel map number 37826 tpm 20 â" 11 â" 409 2 subdivide an existing
parcel land into 4 parcels of designate remainder and finding the project exempt
from the california environmental quality act pursuant to guideline
section 15315. >> think it we have a motion by air pod temperament do I have a
second? >> I will second it. >> the second from councilmember ortiz.
thank you. Thank you kevin for your team.
welcome trish. Ms. Ray, iwa general manager.
item number 10 e resolution numbers 10216, 10217 and 10218 adopted the 2020
coachella valley regional management plan the water shortage contingency plan
in appendix al as an addendum to 2015 urban water management plan.
>> thank you mayor, merrick mayor pro tem and counsel. Appeared tonight to the introduction really quick that I will be handling it
off to staff. Item 10 e and f are all related.
on your agenda. There is 3 resolutions and one ordinance and there all related to the original
urban water management plan which is a department of drinking water requirement
for every 5 years. Really, what it focuses on is showing the department of water that we know what
our demands are going to be on what our supply is going to be in that we have a plan for managing those sustainably.
you will notice it is a regional urban management plan this year. We have in the past done in urban wonderment plan and done it by ourselves.
the region decided to get together this time because it makes more sense if were
talking about the demands and supply of aquifer.
we should all probably be on the same page together.
this is a huge step for us and I think well worth it staff.
what I'm going to do is handed off to ray trejo who will be the assistant
general manager. He will talk about the plan itself in the addendum and the demand and supply.
then, michelle see which a person you have not met yet she's our new
administrative services manager. Taking on conservation and helping us get our business practices in order.
she's going to talk about the water contingency plan.
then we will also support the ordinance change for correcting our water
emergency water code for response to water shortages.
all right all handed off. >> thank you trish.
they keep this is ray trejo assistant general manager of iwa. I'll begin by talking about the regional urban one of management plan and what is
in the plan. On the side you can see there are 6 local water agencies miami dunes,
coachella valley water district. Should springs water district, desert water district and coachella
water authority and of course in don't water authority.
the state of california requires every 5 years and water agency submit this
plan that looks at the next 25 years and the reason the state requires that is
california has gone through some chronic droughts and order for water agencies to
ensure they have water the state mandates we have this plan every 5 years.
the water code allows you to submit on your own which is what we did back in
2015. For the reasons that trish mentioned is that regional approach gives us
consistency with methodologies in the plan.
the plan assesses this demand projections over the next 25 years. He looks at her water supply portfolio and it conducts analysis on
portfolio and most importantly it has stakeholder input. We did have at the regional level to stakeholder meetings and we receive
that input and incorporated into the plan.
plan water supply meets projected demand. The 2 other items that are new to this specific plan is a water shortage
contingency plan. Reduction of delta airlines which is referred to appendix c michelle will
the first item which is water shortage contingency plan and I'll appendix c.
we look at the 25 year outlook we notice that there's a 50 percent growth
projected by 2045. However the increase in th water is not linear to th growth and the reason for
that is we have demand management actions that reduces that water over
time. The population will continue to grow we just need to make sure we have ample supplies for the next 25 years.
the summary of that plan is relate to look at this table that's produced at
the end. What I mean by that is the demands are forecast for the next 25 years.
what the plan forces the agencies to do is to match up the supplies so that we
understand we can meet that demand. Only have one supply, it's groundwater.
we will pump water to the effect that it will meet the demand.
the second part we doing is were not only trying to reduce our demand with conservation measures but we are trying to increase our supply in which you
will see there's a line item that's recyclable water that's to ever
project. Were tackling the issue is both on lowering our demands as well as
increasing our supply. Some of the programs that are noted in the original herbal water management
plan include effort the recycled water program. The demand management measures which includes ordinances that, it's
really targeted towards wasteful use of water.
so we want to make sure that doesn't occur in our service area. If metering which gives us a volumetric measure of the water that is used and
when you have that data it gives us the options to produce water budgets so we
can have some sort of limit as to how much water you can use and allows some
tiered rating which is next bullet, conservation pricing.
ref conservation incentive programs and more portly wave of public education
and outreach program to try to message and ensure that our ratepayers understand
how to save water in many ways. I will speak about appendix al which is an addendum and specifically what
appendix al is, is a way to demonstrate that we are reducing reliance on the
delta and even though we don't take imported water for the state water project
any water we save here has an indirect impact on the reduction of water coming
down to southern california. The reason for that is most of the water we receive the basin is replenishment
water that is under an exchange agreement of state water with coachella's
water so this exchange between metropolitan, state water project because the plumbing doesn't allow the water to be replenished in our basic and exchange
would take metropolitans partial allocation of the colorado river water and
implement it into the storage basin. That's what the state wants to see is we do reduce our reliance on that.
what does appendix al also allows us to do is to go back to the 2015 plan and
amend that plan to ensure that plan also made those objectives. That's what you will see what appendix felt means is we are reducing our
reliance as a region. This time I'll let michelle the water shortage contingency plan.
>> good evening madam mayo members of the city council. As trish mentioned my name is michelle see on the administrative service
manager with the ideal water authority. A been in this post for little over 2 months now it's been a great team to
work with. A great agency. >> welcome. >> thank you very much.
without I'll dive right into iii part of this presentation which is the
water shortage contingency plan. Which is one of the requirements related to the urban water management
plan. By way of background this plan is intended to outline the actions for specific
water agency in the event of a domestic water shortage that may be
triggered as a result of extended drought for example. Or by natural disaster like an earthquake.
this also is in line with one of the requirements that the state agency is
going to be expecting water agencies which is come july 1 of next year water
agencies will need to submit with annual water supply demand assessment
which water agencies want to do 12 month lookahead identify whether the
supplies we have can cover the projected demands for our service area. Along with that this plan will be will specify the steps that we will take in
order to make sure that would happen. This plan not only identifies the operational level is abundant utility
on how to handle instances if and when there are wate shortages identified.
also develops water shortage state is in which will require water utility
customers to do their part as part of demand management in the event
there is a water shortage. As my colleague had mentioned this part of the plan was also done on a
regional level with all 6 agencies in the region. The intent of that was to develop a water shortage framework that would
benefit in the sense that to the extent possible all of the restrictions and
whatnot would be consistent throughout the region and additionally the benefit of
that would be streamlined communications so that there will be minimizing
confusion if and when there's restrictions in place. It's not one agency to one thing another agency doing another.
as I've mentioned before this process was included as part of the public
comment process. This plan certainly designed with flexibility in mind to modify these
restrictions. The approach to this is certainly not looking at water use restrictions but
also looking at balance program that includes public communications and
incentives by way of rebate programs offering to utility customers and
penalties and more of the severe instances of a water shortage.
when I staff compares this proposed framework to what we currently have
intermunicipal quote it's not drastically different. The one major difference is that currently the municipal code shows are
shortage contingency plan is for stages versus 6 stages in the proposed
framework. I will elaborate on that item later on in the next agenda lysed item.
so, this is a high-level overview of what the proposed framework looks like.
it has 6 stages as you can see as one advances through the various stages is to
address increasing severity shortage levels. Anything from up to 10 percent at stage I to over 50 percent.
which would be deemed severe shortage or catastrophic incident.
as we progress through these different levels you will see the water use
restrictions become more severe as you progress through. For example at stage I you have the basic state water use restrictions which is
essentially discouraging water waste. Running water use efficiency and conservation.
on the extreme end which is at level vi which we will promote, prohibit after water use that water rushing at that point.
this is a high level what the stages would be moving forward. With that said that is the overall framework of the water shortage contingency
plan. This evening staff is seeking city council approval to adopt the following.
which is resolution number 10126 adopting the 2020 regional urban water management plan. Resolution number 10217 which is adopting the ntl one of shortage contingency
plan and last night resolution number 10218 which is adopting the appendix al as an addendum to the 2015 urban wanted judgment plan.
this concludes our presentation I would be happy to answer any questions at this time.
>> thank you very, very much. Lots of good information. Anyone have any questions? I bet councilmember ortiz?
>> think it for the presentation welcome to the indio family. >> thank you very much.
>> have a question of her right on your slides were going through the ground water, the use of groundwater if you could go back a little bit.
yeah. Note your plans only for 25 years.
just looking at the into that graph right? 140 think.
yes, there. There it shows the ground-level up to 30,000 acre-feet?
>> correct. Raising 5000 of recyclable water. Failure plan is only for the 25 years.
but going forward what do you see as our limit on groundwater usage?
>> that's a good question. Part of this plan that's incorporating the sigma because were not been
adjudicated basin. We could continue to pump somewhat indefinitely but not quite in the recent
white cigna is in place is not adjudicated basin's have limited pumping.
if you have adjudicated basin let me give you the example the 2020 supply of
roughly 20,000 acre-feet would run across the entire 25 years.
in our case there is no adjudication. So we have to show the demand increasing along with the water supply.
now with the sigma plan shows us that over time you have a specific sensitivity
analysis. What they're asking us to do is forecast without one at level is going to look
like without demand to get it with her conservation together with a different
level of sensitivity analysis which includes climate change.
it also has another one called earthquake analysis.
so, if your question is how much can we pump over the remainder of the 25 years?
the plan is updated every 5 years as well. Every year we have to put it what's called the subbasin annual report
which qualifies all of the data. Witches came to the board a couple months ago with that and on annual basis victor
smith out to the state to assure us that our forecast is being validated each and
every year. As we move an incremental 5 year period for validating those years.
and again, as we move that forecast we continue to validate those years, put
in the inputs, to the analysis and ensure on long-term basis.the basin
sustainable. >> and so at year 2045 considering the use of other cities.
the increasing use in other cities of our increased use of other cities we still see instability in the basin?
>> yes. Like I mentioned, I think I mentioned this is one of 3 different plans we have to
submit. Another one of the plans relate makes us look at overall ground water levels
and how were going to implement projects to even with this demand all of
their still increasing the groundwater storage. >> nice.
>> this sense the basis those models that say you can use this much but when
jude offset the weakness. That's not use that's us putting water bunko for a period.
>> got give more point to your question is that we can only sustain this
diminishment water.
are the reason we came together as a region is to ensure we all benefit from
the replenishing water. Hence why we pay the rock fee that's on long-term it just so happen now we are
in substantial amount of water available to cbw date on the colorado river that
could change over time. Were at a meeting all of our requirements pushes right with multiple
documents and coming together as a region is probably the best way to make sure we all have consistent assumptions on the use of that imported
water. >> I have heard recently just use reports of new drought, I guess her seat
new levels of drought on the colorado river right? Do we see that causing problems for us in the near future?
>> they always look at every water year and set the allocations and
sometimes only get 5 percent. I think that's what they're getting this year was only 5 percent of what their
total allocation is based on the actual rainfall they are getting.
that's not an uncommon number. I've been in california for 8 years and I've heard that number about 4 of the 405
of the years is about 5 percent allocated they managed that.
it is still extra water for us and recharge water. It's not our direct supply where it is for some people.
north right now the suffering. Northern california is in a world of hurt because favor flows below us.
faith them. The thing that's nice about the drought this time versus the last time we
went through it is the governor is taking much more of a customized
approach and really not doing statewide blanket kind of thing but really
looking at the original kind of impacts where the regions being impacted.
right now or not see us as being impacted as much.
that could change. Some older ones are already at 35 percent reductions.
>> okay. >> if I may add one nexus to what you just asked.
that is a reason why the state came up water shortage contingency plan.
it's very difficult to really forecast, trish talked about the state that
fluctuates from year-to-year. If it doesn't rain it's all snowmelt driven on the stateside.
the colorado riverside it's massive. Storage reservoirs are huge.
it takes time to feel the effects of chronic drought. It takes even longer to get out of it.
it's really difficult. The purpose of this water shortage contingency plan is for all the points you
just brought up.
what happens if we have chronic drought in colorado river?
while the states asking us to have this very strict policy in place that is now
telling us to cut water to the residential level of turf and what have you.
that's what was presented today for the first time we have to really make that
more strict requirement for us to implement in the event these plants are
often long-term. >> got you. Thank you so much. I appreciate it.
>> thank you that was very informative. Does anyone else have any questions?
no. It covers it. I will open the public hearing. We have a request to speak?
what no comments. >> okay public hearing the gospel I will motion to adopt resistance,
resolution number 102-171-0218 adopting the 2020 coachella valley
regional urban water management plan, the water shortage contingency plan
in appendix al as an addendum to the twitter management plan.
>> second. >> of motion by councilmember ortiz and a second by mere potential
vermin. We have a roll call vote please. >> asleep.
in the next one is item 10 f. Ordinance number 1762, amending sections of chapter 54 of the indian
municipal code regarding water conservation to align with the 2020 coachella
valley regional urban water management plan. Hi, welcome back.
>> good evening once again. Dad before you this evening is the water conservation ordinance amendment also
known as ordinance number 1762. Just give it a minute.
perfect, henrico sent with the recently approved urban water management plan as
well as a corresponding water shortage contingency plan the site and before
you is an ordinance amendment to amend the indian municipal code click
the sections with the drought, water shortage stages that were previously
from 2014 to align with the currently adopted plan.
this table very familiar to you. This outlines a framework once again stages will be
for the water shortage contingency plan. This includes 6 levels with increasing in severity from one through 6 and
addresses water shortages anything from up to 10 percent to more than 50
percent. Man along with corresponding more aggressive water use
restrictions, public outreach components as well as penalties in the more
severe stages. The next couple of slides will highlight what those changes are from the
current municipal code to what the ordinance amendment will reflect. First and foremost I mentioned municipal code shows up for one of stages.
a shortage stages, the amended ordinance will now include 6 and actually goes
water use restrictions will be spread across a broade scale because it's now 6
stages. We also did â" in the miscible code specifies one of use, outdoor watering to
specific times and example I gave was no outdoor watering between 6 pm and 6
pm as an example. We've change that where instead of specific times refrigerant daylight hours
or know about tort moderate during daylight hours. That's to account for the variations throughout the year.
next in stage iii the current municipal code that ritually were 2 options
for outdoor watering. The way it was structured it was more based on what was being water outdoors.
now, with the amendment this will include more specific a specific outdoor watering schedule.
that's marketed based upon what is irrigation system type whether sprinklers or drip irrigation when not.
thus the change. The current municipal code there's no mention of public outreach, rebate
programs or anything like that. Although indio water authority does do that. That is formalizing that as I mentioned before more balanced approach that only
not only focuses on water use restrictions but actions the water agency will take as it relates to addressing water shortage situations.
moving forward. Stage iii currently there was mentioned no new construction meters to be
issued. You will see this nonreflective in stage v this is the second to the
most severe water shortage stage. Last but not least we and was stage for the current municipal code whereas once
we have the ordinance amended will reflect stage vi to be the highest water
shortage level stage available. Certainly whenever I water storage needs to be declared will require city
council approval prior to implementation there is also the flexibility to modify any restrictions as needed.
with that in terms of next steps we, staff is seeking public comment and proposing to wait the full reading of ordinance number 1762 amending sections of
chapter 54 of the indio municipal code regarding water conservation to introduce by title only and if that should happen staff would bring back the
ordinance on july 21 for ordinance adoption. This concludes my presentation and I be happy to answer any questions.
>> terrific. Please councilmember miller. >> looking at the specific times between 6 and 6 pm etc. The drought or any
time? >> that would be during a declared stage. >> what stage without being quick.
>> right now I believe it's in stage iii. >> stage iii but is not now.
>> not now. The one think that is currently in place is stage one which is essentially to
encourage water conservation and water use efficiency at this point. >> I know of other drip irrigation plans need to be water during the day.
and it takes a lot out in cities is one of the waters during the day.
you'd have to lead by example a lot of times we don't.
I appreciate that. Thank you.
>> right if there are any questions will open the public hearing. Public hearing is open are there any public comments?
>> no comments mayor. >> okay close the public hearing.
I like to hear a motion please. >> I will make a motion to waive full reading of ordinance of 1762 amending
sections of chapter 54 of the indio municipal court regarding water conservation to introduce ordinance of 1762 by title only and request the city
clerk to read the title. >> I will second.
>> second by mere pretense for men. Matt have roll call vote?
>> motion passes for dust in. >> misses a beat notified but she had to leave the meeting.
>> understood. Thank you very much.
all right.
>> mayor if I could read the ordinance for the record. >> the ordinance of the city video amending sections of chapter 54 of
the indio municipal code regarding water conservation to align with the 2020 coachella valley regional urban water management plan.
take care. >> thank you very much. Okay item 10 g.
city council /indio water authority joint resolution number one 0210 and I a
resolution number 20 21 â" 2077 adopting the fickle honorable one row prototype
and counsel patricia regional manager at iwa. For your consideration tonight is the 2021 budget for iwa.
as you've seen focus for the sears to protect the customers uncertainty while
ensuring continuous water quality delivery. So for our revenues.
we are projecting overall to bring in next year almost $24 million.
this is up by 3.5 percent from the year before.
the biggest changes for this is the rock which is actually just a pastor so
the replenishment assessment charge which we passed through the coachella valley water district, a little bit growth is built into this.
as well as inflation is probably the biggest changes for the revenues.
pretty stable average 2 percent growth in bills.
that's probably a little conservative. We may see a little bit more than that by the end of the year.
we are being conservative.
as far as expenditures go. You will see significant increase, 60 percent.
really a lot of that increase has to do with restructuring how we account for our funds.
large part as a transfer out of our capital projects funding into another
account. That allows the capital projects to be separate intractable for performance
to the expectations.
that alone is 4.1 million dollars just as a transfer.
salaries are up. We are requesting adding one full-time position and engineering tech to this
is the result of development is going strong. Good thing.
and our capital public need to step up a bit to make sure we can deliver on I
think that is about the biggest one. Harvick. We still fight for but we have one month we are purchasing.
if you do the numbers you will notice miniatures.
about $30 million in unallocated funds.
part of the long-range the master plan to raise increase rates this year.
to use some of those unallocated funds by up allocated funds budget.
keep abreast of that unallocated fund develop for the projects we've got coming in the future. So as far as our capital program this is fun to pay 12.
these are the rehab so if existing system, condition and performance.
112 base for. >> ,upgrades, replacements of existing infrastructure.
so, of note on this morning, very large one is miles avenue which you just
proved today is 1.3 million dollars going to be awarding them out.
also going to be doing a pilot replacement will increase our in the budget
next year. We will rehabs of existing infrastructure needs. Then there is a supplemental water says development feet there
increase in demands. A firm. Allocated for this that is the effort the big effort for this coming year as we met with a regular discussed her plan.
her timeframe they were on board with us because this is eve experienced
together. Will do is groundwater modeling model that shows checked into the aquifer moves throughout the aquifer to make sure that this time in order to
ensure quality before it reaches up and gets the touch but you have to make
sure of. The last one is.
they'll be focused on the public don't ask, we found that calhoun probably did.
we still need to well so that will be what happens this year.
so, without a recommendation is to assented.
they give any details or questions?
no? Okay I will open the public hearing. Public hearing is open.
is there any member that wishes to speak. >> okay, I will close the public hearing.
>> on joint resolution number 1021 element indio water authority resolution
number 20 to adopting the fiscal year 2021 â" 22 operating and capital
improvement budget and program supply program. Miller appeared to have a second?
>> councilmember ortiz. >> unanimously. Thank you very much been waiting for.
[laughter]. Item 10 8 city council. >> gotta love the curtain.
>> wow.[laughter]. Okay since the matter roger, comedian.
I just want it is to be the eighth and final public hearing I don't want to
fight sadat. The council's consideration in presenting committed operating and capital
budget captures for the fiscal year.
as you hopefully have seen is presented in hundred 90 espy fund mars the
spending plan gradually provide greater detail from front to back.
the budget includes a staffing plan, a capital improvement plan from all
proceeded by 25 page budget summary. Throughout the summary there are references to community and induce
location. How we build the budget, there are no less than 14 tables and charts.
summarizing the budget capturing and it and comparing it to last year's
budget. This is the level details edits would qualify for the government finance
officers award for distinguished visitation the details are there.
if we win it will be iii year in a row.
mention the recommended budget is in accordance with the public hearings
that we held on may 5 and may 19.
if it serves a counsel I could go right into specifics the general fund
skip or the general details of that place is the council? >> to one go there or dive in 2012?
>> all right, in regards to the general fund. General fund spending point type.
with $93 million general fund budget. It's broken up 53 percent of purchased services, 41 percent tellers benefits of
3 percent on acids and 3 percent on operating cost.
this chart reflects the current budget compared to prior year budgets.
you will see in the area of purchased services is quite a bit more as it was last year.
that's really an indication of how much more monies were spending this year and capital projects.
percent of of the fact the festivals are not the budget for next year.
salary and benefits you will see parties for a few positions increase in
regards to general fund expenditure flex the general 35 million versus
17.2 appropriated general fund budget is youth who pieces republic works click
ministration, development services, economic development and 50 percent,
$40 million is for measure x projects.
general fund revenue. 58 percent of the revenue supporting general fund operations is taxes.
that includes property taxes, sales taxes, transient occupancy taxes. Business taxes probably try to get to that measure x which is another $12
million and 73 percent of general fund budget is supported by taxes.
fund budget some of its covered by interim government revenue that
would revenue from other government agencies. License apartments, fines and forfeitures.
use of many property. Fees and charges paid 4.2 million is transfers in the 20 coming in for the public
safety community facilities districts. Specifically for the public safety services.
$2.7 million in other revenue. Big lion share of that is the ticket before the festivals.
>> this graph. I wanted to comparison for the budget that was adopted last year to the budget
were asking you to adopt today. If you look at the darker areas you can see going into the pandemic we were
assuming some drastic reductions in sales taxes. Utility users taxes.
license apartments. The budget being presented to you is basically restoring the revenue next
what I would see is very large increases in some taxes and measure x sales
taxes owns 40 percent. 26 and occupancy taxes. This is a more normalized budget if I could call it that.
quickly going over the highlighting the projects. For million dollars per street maintenance.
to campus. Little over $2.2 million for shields road on the road. Some hundred 50,004 letter truck, fire letter truck.
6 and $40,000 for ada improvements at south jackson park. Additional 7000 for other various park improvements.
20,021, spring 20,000 set aside for outside agencies with barthes village. Coachella valley rescue mission and savings was program.
hundred 25,000 to the fiber master plan, hundred 20 for zoning. Hundred thousand dollars for parking study.
hundred thousand 4 of our study. Hundred thousand dollars for a ballot measure initiative.
$60,000 for reductant service in the police department. The game is to at least body worn cameras.
if it's the service vehicle. 2030 full-time positions. That includes 85 sworn positions for those of revenue added to the budget
this year. Edition the new ads include 2 dispatchers and one senior utility specialist.
quickly going over the budget highlights. This is very much reflective of our normalization of spending
levels for the city of indio. Includes $14 million measure x infrastructure products. Balancing the budget we ha to utilize $5.6 million from measure x to cover
general operations of me had to assume $2 million in salary savings. In regard to financial resolution contains language recognizing
financial stress in the city due to the pandemic. And an anonymous apartments for the city has access to all federal and state
relief funds available. Specifically this action we expect to increase funding and ensures or focused on
cost saving strategies. In addition to the city budget scew to adopt the housing authority budget
tonight as well. This case a small decrease in appropriations. Resorting to get revenue coming in through loan payment through the
successor agency. Those funds are coming in but are not being appropriated for
expenditure at this time. Before opening the public hearing, public works director tim also like to
come the street maintenance plans.
>> y'all got this. >> that's it. We'll show you what streets are clear on that.
>> will connect. >> to have a magnifying glass so we could read it? I'm just kidding.
revenue questions? We need to ask your voxel go ahead, counsel for ortiz. >> not necessarily for mr. Multiple make goat under the parks.
measure x I will make sure were allocating the parks running here for miles
part. I want to make that. >> it's for all the parks visited because what we discussed is to allow the
much more money than what had been contemplated before and then during our
strategic planning discussion have you work it out and direct us how would you like to appropriate those parks funds.
in july. Miles could be a part of it. I think we are deferring the prioritization until that time.
reason to do so is hers federal energization.
you have more flexibility to discuss a july night. >> great.
I'm right I remember we said we would appropriate money, I asked what wessels
wrote miles part? We said miles park would go for sure.
okay allocating many for both?
>> in july. We decide to do it.
done. >> we will get them both done.
because we had was if we could includes into our city council budget to
provide the translation could be hundreds of a comic transmission it's
about 3 to $50 be about $700 a month. 84 dollars a year. I would like to allocate $9000 for that that would allow us to reach out
according to her census numbers we have about 1/4 of a population that isn't
fluent in english. This would allow us to reach out to 1/4 or for population.
>> okay, is a counsel feel, threats of the council wing in on this?
>> is at 9000s of the city manager came up with quick clicks just out of thin
air. 9000 and then select a lot of moaning.
>> that was of value we asked the city clerk to research. The city of coachella is spending roughly that amount.
as late as we are tonight it would be more. Some meetings may be less.
that's why I thought 9000 if it should accommodated.
do we really need to lock $9000? We find $9000 at 83 million?
>> it's a great question. I think the staff would like the direction because not sure if the majority of
the one that stephen spent 9000. I didn't want to make that decision on my own.
if a majority of you want to do it we will do it.
if not we won't.
>> thought we were gonna do all this in july.
>> we can do that as well.
>> of the conversation now.
>> 5 with 9000. I just didn't think it was law.
finally. I think we should do it in july let the city manager feynman put in there.
if you want to put it into bed and say we will do it. >> july is tim and I talked about it and our launcher's new auto dealerships coming
in. It's horrible the conditions around it la quinta paid for that they
put it new pilot 111.
its partnerships and you look along the wall all you see is the freeway create
enter around the other area fences into the self.
I think we are considering returning to droppings it's not that inviting.
molly pulling from people from coachella like the places areas.
rock and be able to purchase those properties in between there there.
talking millions of dollars when we come all around them and beautify them at
the same time. To look at what it will cost tim has thought to invest in clinic up about
500,000. Those are our largest auto dealers am going to get a couple million dollars from
the property were selling. We can step back and put the rest back I think.
we can talk about that in july though. >> I agree.
I think we always need to produce the term our sunday best. Happy through the lens of litter or disrepair etc. Just if impression.
I think this car dealerships will generate $800,000 a year in revenue.
some living for themselves after a while. Once we make the investment we talk about downtown somewhere other properties.
making investments in ourselves to attract other folks.
turn on them.
>> the return on investment. >> mr. Rockwell get up there anymore?
I haven't even opened the public hearing. Next we wanted parks we had this discussion over having this discussion on
conflict hearing is open how long is there anyone in largly people. I will close a public hearing what is the pleasure of the council
donald trump at once. I turned look at.
>> of the number 1212, 1021.
. 21 â" 2021 â" 2022 appropriations limit and grant for the city of indio
housing authority. This does not include the adjustment?
>> including the $9000 adjustment.
>> passes unanimously. It is about 10:07?
>> 2 hours behind palm springs. >> good night everyone.
thank you very, very much. Next meeting is not on here.
july 21, 2021.