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Here's better some mayors here in the afternoon. That's 630 because regular council may need to order,

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roll call fees.

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Council member Stewart, council member Deal, mayor puts him clean up, council member Plonko, council member Timmerman, council member Velasquez, mayor Domny, abstain.

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in vocation and in gutter moods, please.

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Thank you for the safe travels of everyone who came tonight.

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Be with us as we make decisions for our city, be with the citizens,

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and let's agree that we need more transparency in your precious name up right in the end.

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Why wouldn't you be in a state of gravity?

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I mean, I have a state of gravity, and I feel Republic for which its status, and why nation under a block,

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need to be visible, and literally to be in this control.

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I'm here on behalf of the Coast of Watch Association on Pocket Base here on the Bay.

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It helps residents understand and engage with industrial permitting that affects our community.

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Most residents don't know about a new project proposed for a single site, and we think that the entire community should hear about it for a yearly.

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A company called Coastal Bend L.E. development is asked for federal regulators to begin review of a new L.N.G facility at N.R.T.E.

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slide energy center.

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Yeah, 20 million times a volunteer year, four processing units, two large storage tanks, and

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new pipeline through San Francisco and the Ways of County.

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This will be the company's first project with no operating history and details like flare

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counts have been redacted from the public fire.

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For all we know, there will be a flare just as big as not bigger than shiniers right here

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on the bay.

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To take a moment and visualize what that would look like for our city, especially in

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culmination with the pre-existing flares in our immediate area, do you know how often

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the shenare goes off?

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Just imagine what that right over here as well.

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Here's what concerns us, according to the company's own federal filing, coastal men on

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a gene-held project information meeting with our city manager on July 27th, about two weeks

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ago.

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We saw the same pattern with Project Yarn on the same exact site last year, and we're

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actually asking the council to continue doing your due diligence like you did that project there.

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The company points to Carbon Capture.

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The Carbon Capture doesn't remove nitrogen oxides.

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VOC's, in particular, matter residents actually breathe.

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Air quality, traffic, and noise studies are still underway.

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the impact sitting on the side are unknown and this side sits two or three miles from the

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side to I'm every in other schools so tonight we're asking for four things, one to release

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any notes or records from that July 27 meeting, two to commit to a notifying public before

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and after future meetings with this company, three and share public input sessions happen

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at times working families can attend and four we ask the city manager to cover this

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project on an upcoming episode of straight talk, the way he keeps residents informed

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on other city matters, and if there's an NDA or confidentiality agreement preventing

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that, we'd like them to say so plainly, so all of their residents can understand why they

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haven't heard about it.

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Our community deserves a full combative picture of what this means for our air, our

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That's it.

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And we'll keep you simple.

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I'm a statement of fact.

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I also believe associated with that that I didn't hear as part of the comment, even

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the statement of fact.

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I believe the statement of fact is essentially speaking the actual yaran project has ceased.

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And it's a statement of fact.

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I want to thank the citizens, the citizens of the English side on the day.

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Everyone who participated in expressing themselves.

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So no matter which way something goes,

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to continue to state in the fact,

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no matter which way a situation goes,

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public and input, whether it be it.

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Like that, or however, is paramount,

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contrary to popular belief.

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I'll speak for myself, but I know every council member,

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they want to hear, they want to hear from the public,

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doesn't mean the agree, but we want to hear,

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thank you for the end of your session.

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Or for Mayor Pitchcock.

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Excuse me?

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Excuse me?

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Excuse me?

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Excuse me?

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Did anybody write it down?

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Not his name.

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What else do you think?

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Oh, um, close to Ben, Ellen G.

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Who's that the name?

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What's your name?

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I'm a new man, Ellen G.

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That's what I wrote, Ellen G.

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All right.

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Another comment says about it.

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Recorded to Avignon.

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Hello, and good evening to the mayor and members of the City Council.

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I'm submitting this memorandum of public records regarding the automated, less-and-plate reader systems,

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specifically those operated by the flock system, a similar vendors, my concern is not with our local officers,

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my concern is with the private company that owns the network.

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Stores at that and controls the technology and future add-ons, and if I didn't say I don't record it, I'm going to record it.

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relevant examples and developments around this past, our wonderful neighbor, the city council

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voted to terminate its walk contract. Amazing, great job. The Pino County, OO, where we take

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give me regard Arizona Sheriff Ross Teaple, announced he will not renew the county's walk contract

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signing series for amendment concerns his oath to protect individual liberties in the job

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Los Angeles, though, over recorded to the California Police Department, one of the largest

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police departments in the country, allowed its law contract to expire in 2026, citing

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serious concerns over liberties, privacy, data ownership, and sharing, Los Angeles.

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Great job.

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Number four, the Fourth Amendment Principle, of course have recognized that the people have

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reasonable expectation of privacy in their long-term location, data, car-controverses

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United States 2018.

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So this is what all that continues, automated tracking of every vehicle, build, searchable

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history of ordinary people's movement without a warrant.

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The value journey of residents are simply trying to live their lives and be left alone.

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I think that piece of art.

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This is exactly what the Fourth Amendment and the Texas Constitution Article 1, Section 9,

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are meant to protect.

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Private company continuous tracking and ordinary system with camera is allowed to record in public,

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Yeah, we can do it.

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Yet, private companies are building permanent networks

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that are continuously photographing, storing,

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and making searchable movements of every free vehicle,

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This is very different level of monitoring and raises serious questions about privacy, data control, and constitutional links.

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My wonderful humble request, respectfully request that the city council, wonderful members of the citizens, terminate the contract, when privacy and constitutional concerns are the topic.

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In body, floss, safety, or any, or others,

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continue with automatic, legs, and plate readers.

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And thank you very much.

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Have a wonderful day.

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Any other answers?

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I do have two more.

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Jayce?

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I've done this in like 30 years.

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I've done two more.

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Don't forget your address.

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You didn't have a tool that seemed easy to decide.

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Don't decide.

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You just don't know.

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My name is Jason, and I'm reading this.

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Mayor and Council Member before the week.

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I thought this was important.

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It's not important.

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Mayor and Council Member before we talk about modern cameras.

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I want to briefly go back to the founding of this country.

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In 1760, the British crown would be something called rights of assistance.

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These were general search boards.

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They allowed government agents to enter any homes, businesses,

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or ship and search anything.

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without an endless specific person, things were crying.

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They did not need a problem called cause.

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They could search whoever they wanted,

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whenever they wanted, and keep doing it definitely.

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The columnist hated these, right?

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In 1761, a word of name, James Otis stood up

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in an awesome corporate minority that used

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to your own warrants, five days of right to break people.

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This argument became famous.

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John Adams later said that this seed of the American Revolution

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was planted in Mano name.

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And the founders wrote the Constitution.

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They remembered those year and all warrants.

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That is exactly why the Fourth Amendment exists.

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It was ready to stop the government from adapting open-ended suspicious lists, searches,

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the people's persons, houses, papers, and effects.

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The amendment required, in particular, and probably caused for a reason because the

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founders had lived under a system that treated every citizen as a temporary.

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Today, we are asking to ask to accept permanent networks of cameras that we photograph

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every vehicle that has the scores, those records and make them

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searchable for weeks without individual suspicion. This is a

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monochrome of continuous cracking of the general public. The

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technology is new, the principles is not. The fourth amendment we

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write them precisely because the founders rejected the idea that

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government or its agents should be able to monitor ordinary people

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by default. Oh, that's awesome.

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And they still have those in their cameras all over in length.

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Okay?

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That was fun.

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You did it.

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Thank you.

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Good job.

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Good job.

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Sarah Cumbly.

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Okay.

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I don't need that.

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Sarah Cumbly.

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I'm not going to get you my address due to the visual docking,

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I'm using this website for use, I'm here tonight because I want to one support a local business owner and two support of police officer.

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There was an incident that took place outside of a polling station and when that incident took place, it was because our mayor called 911.

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There is a question on whether or not where they were standing was city property.

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There is legislation that prevents election hearing on city property.

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I spoke with the railroads and they said that they never issued any letters in regards

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to election hearing on their property.

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So I'm not sure whether or not the property where Mr. Dilf and Mr. Demi were standing was city property

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or railroad property, but it is my understanding that nobody had permission to be electionier

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in there. And, as a citizen, if they chose to electioner on public property, I absolutely

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have a problem with that. That's why there's legislation to prevent it.

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I'm not mad. I don't have anything. It was gotten ill-filings. I'm concerned that we have

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a police officer who is facing real precautions for a choice they obviously he made. But

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We can't afford to lose police officers.

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I don't know if you guys are catching on to the number,

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dwindling down.

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Our safety and security should be the forefront

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of our brains.

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And when we're doing things that are political,

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we should not be weaponizing our local municipalities.

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We have a freedom of speech, whether we like or dislike

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that speech does not mean that you can stipend it.

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Calling 911 was an attempted stipend in my opinion.

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But I would like it if the council would

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look at that property and find out whether or not that boarder had a valid argument in complaint

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when he stopped that day.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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There's a response.

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All right.

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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I don't have six.

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Step comments and reports.

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A council comments and reports.

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B announcements of community interest and are upcoming events.

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C report on the fire hydrant locations and maintenance schedules for the city of

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single side, Dave report on current and pending projects with the City of

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Engel-Sod, E, and report on providing affordable swim classes at the Charles H.

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Dirty Minus Support Pool.

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We have a lot of comments or reports.

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We did not receive any, I don't know, to be included in the fact of that.

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Okay, on the screen, you can see several of the announcements of community interest coming up.

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Of course, still in the planning and zoning commission meeting members are needed.

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They're struggling too fast.

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Of course, the bill of library has several things going on.

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vendor's mark on August 5th, at the 70's and as you can see I'm real excited because

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the homecoming mum class does homecoming coming up and I've seen some nice

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mum to come out of that also just a dollar time

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and 500's and condensate questions on that

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I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm going to give everybody else a chance.

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But then I

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just really have a question I found out in this game.

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And then I also have a good thank you.

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Just lend up that.

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I have one.

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It says on the list here that there's one at the corner of Indian Trail in Fino.

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It's been out of sight.

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I'll tell her time.

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The media interest.

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I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry to say.

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I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

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I'm sorry.

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I'm sorry to say that.

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I don't want to say anything.

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I just want to take it to the media.

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This is the make the everyone connected to the library.

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I've said, I've been in that library, and I would welcome any computer to the media time to be in there.

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It's, you go in and you see the youngest to the oldest.

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If there was any entity, any benefit,

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a entity I should say to the public,

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it is that library, especially during the,

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sees the hot people who went there to relax

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and they're cool.

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And I had it off to every program that they're doing.

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You talk about something that impacts, especially our youth.

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That is the research center because I'm going to talk to a couple of them.

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That is, there are researches with a lot of them that don't have, you're ready to

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seek kids, they don't have computers at home, they don't have high speed at home.

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So please, through the manager, to the staff, good job, please keep it up, thank you, thank you.

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I'm not just questions,

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all right, I'm seeing you please.

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You know, five minutes.

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This is a report.

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There's a request on a five hundred locations and making schedules.

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As she said, as you tell by the cover sheet and discusses about how

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maintenance is performed.

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And that we do have a listing of the fire admins.

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There were five years that the State Board of Insurance conducts the

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And of course, we want to make sure that the plug tests come out the way they're supposed to.

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We also try to maintain the blue reflectors next to 500.

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So the one that our department scrolls down the street, they can see where the hydrant is located.

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Now, is there any questions, please?

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That's a bunch of questions.

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Yes, can you find out why the farm hydrant at Pinoc and Indian Trail has been outside of this?

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actually it has a bag over the top of it.

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Who does debate in some ways?

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The utility department.

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Yeah, I'm good.

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The utility department does it.

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Because when you are working on the hydrogen,

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working on the problem of water system.

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Mr. Ben, can you be by us?

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Oh, good. How have you been redone?

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We used to, in this community that are here tonight,

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we'll remember the days that on Tuesday nights.

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Now, it's not just job of this council to dictate

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to the fire department they're training,

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however we certainly can make recommendations.

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And I remember the days,

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they had a meeting on Tuesday night meetings,

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and one of the big hits with the kids,

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and other people in the community,

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Everything so often they would take a fire truck.

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They would go out into humanity.

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And the kids just came right up to them,

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and stood out to the side,

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and adults, because I watched them.

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Because I'm vaccinated, but I've never been in the military.

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We knew how to fight fires.

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We tested things regularly.

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They pulled that fire truck up.

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The trainees, if they had new new training volunteers, they would roll those hoses out,

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roll them down the street the way they're supposed to, and they would hook it up to that

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hydrant.

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And they would go out of that hydrant.

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And that was one of the ways they tested the operation of that hydrant.

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But for some reason, we got away from that.

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And we talk about a way for public exposure to create people that may be some shelters,

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18, 19, 20 year olds that would say, I want to be part of that.

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I want to be part of, say, for my community.

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And if it's midnight, my house is on fire.

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I tell you what, I'll bet everyone in this room.

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We want the absolute best train.

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We want to make sure that they don't pull up to a hydrogen that's got a magnet over it.

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Thank you.

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I mean, that, to be quite honest with you, that shows pride, and you might have a lot of

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people who are military leaders who are pride and professionalism.

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Attention to detail.

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That's what determines when visitors come into our community, and they see freshly painted.

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And at one time, we had to talk about having a doctor-fire hydroprogram.

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And she doesn't come out from the training under the washful eye of people, trained people.

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Pick up a paintbrush, let's paint it.

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Just give that look.

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But that's attention to detail.

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And that's how you bring pride and professionalism back to your community and my opinion.

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But I can assure you, people look forward to Tuesdays, because I don't remember the crowds

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So I got to run in that fire truck.

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The kids love to see that fire truck come down the street

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with a light on one.

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So to the manager, again, this council can't dictate.

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But this council member has given a suggestion to you.

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I hope you will consider and follow through on it.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Put on the head one more thing on that.

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How many employees did you have at the fire station?

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We have a one-half of an employee.

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What?

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One more time.

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Everyone else is volunteers.

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So this is a free apology.

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I'm just saying.

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This is a great idea.

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But we have to remember that people's time too.

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These are all people more volunteering.

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They're already doing a lot of that stuff.

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So maybe some sort of incentive,

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if that's something that, you know,

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the council thinks would be great.

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Some sort of incentive for the extra volunteer time.

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It's a part, if I may, it's part of a training program.

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They need to be trained when they go out to that fire hazard,

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how to undo the hose and how to, I know what's back up.

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It's training.

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It's training.

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It's not an incentive.

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It's training to get people because there are set ways when you go out.

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Yes, volunteers.

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But when people volunteer, and I, good God, I have the ultimate respect for our volunteers.

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Amen.

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I wish we could get more. Unfortunately, attitudes and times are changing. It's hard to get

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volunteers. Period. But they have, for the management, correct me. They have, they have

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routine training programs at the fire station. Is it still on Tuesday night? They have the

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meeting. I have four meetings of the training. One, two, see that out of the month. Yes.

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It's something that's already there. But when that truck rolls up, it's a coordinator team

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On the street, and it rolls itself out, and then they check out the tools how to hook it to you, couple to the fire.

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That's just flat out train, and I don't think there's a single volunteer that would argue about getting out of the fire station on Tuesday night and come out to the public and demonstrate your skills. That's just the way I feel about it.

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I think you would find that. Thank you.

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at least a couple of years, probably more than that because you get used to seeing it, you

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don't think about it when you drop by it. I think I asked a fart cheese one month but I can't

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remember what it's in. We haven't on this to check it.

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Thank you.

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What's it an HGB bag?

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It's a green bag.

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I think.

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I thought I would bring it out.

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I think it's a green bag.

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Why does thick coat get out of your throat?

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Yeah, it's yellow.

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So I think we've got to go to that 20.

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Item D.

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So if anybody had any questions on the projects that are listed there, this is just the

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update.

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They also covers wastewater treatment plant construction,

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that has to be a drainage project,

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where we are on the electrical upgrades,

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and that's a lot of parks,

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and the storage equipment storage building,

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and all the other questions on A to D-Safe.

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Projects going on that.

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Council?

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Oh, wait.

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I'm good.

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I'm good.

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I'm good, I'm good.

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Did you hear the Council on that date on the Pet B?

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Even mine has always been, we brought about this new equipment and we stick it out in the outside.

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We're going to be talking to, uh, we've talked about giving you authorization to get equipment.

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We have ample storage from the elements.

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The new equipment is stored in various locations out of the elements.

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Okay, and I just really get you to start with that.

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I'm under record tonight.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Okay,

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we're going on to item E. Please.

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There was a question.

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Right is about the possibility of providing swing lessons.

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We are still researching that.

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We did discuss it with the grant.

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Philips is 66.

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That would be providing the program as you tell

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that the impact rate cross on the swim program.

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They had to spend as drivers and they are trained for, and it's around $3.20 for four days

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that have to have six students, and we are researching at this time, there is funding available,

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but the application can not be applied for until after the first of this year coming out.

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So, it is, we are working on it. There are several areas that do have the swim lessons,

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and different types of the swimming pools that are even open during the

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year or so, but we are researching it, still.

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Council of the questions, comments.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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My concern to the manager.

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If you're going anything to this council,

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that I hope I can support it.

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However, I did my homework on this.

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The reasons many cities would be very careful

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So how closely they get attached to it is called liability and if you bring anything to

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this council,

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I would hope through our attorneys, you would bring case law, case history,

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and what I found looking at several cities that are actually looked at as a city sponsor, using

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our facility for a group of professionals. It's one round. But when the city starts contracting,

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I think the attorney of the three, that is a very careful area that we have to be very careful

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because if you ever get into a lawsuit, God forbid if we had an incident. I would certainly

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And they tell you that when the attorneys come out of the work for a civil, to the attorney

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of the committee.

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I mean, there are things you have to look up for.

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There's a contract.

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You want to make sure you're, since protected.

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But it really depends on who the contractor is.

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for certifications, what they do, primarily, what does your contract have, if you do contract

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agree with the company, do you imagine, or not these classes?

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I'm going to ask the manager, and based upon your partner so far, do you have a

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vendable when you expect to come back to this council?

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There's something concrete, not what it has to concrete.

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We will be coming back to the council for the application of this file for the grant.

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And then do you expect it to work with the file?

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It has to be filed in January for funding in March.

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Thank you.

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Yeah.

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We have been in discussions.

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We know the programs they offered this time.

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And so we had been with that, but then we know that we had one area of city that had been at receipt of rent.

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And that was what was why it was brought for this council, is because there was a question about the grant that was provided by one area of cities.

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The city being a site that provides the same services.

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We are looking at because we do have a situation where it is being offered throughout this area.

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And we need to make sure that we have interest in this area, more of our citizens, we'll go to our pool and receive this training.

448
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That's actually not enough.

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At this time, I'm going to go.

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Okay, I have one comment about something else that's followed here because it happened.

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It relates to the pool.

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That's it.

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That's it.

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Let's get things to the pool.

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This is a part of the report, but it's also a demand our law enforcement agency at Police Department and agencies that responded to an incident that happened on the weekend.

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They were there, performed admirable.

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We'll go over by our English-eye police department and agencies that also support them.

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Thank you, Chief.

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I also wanted to acknowledge we have quite a few Iranians past city officials here, so thank y'all for being here.

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And there.

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And there.

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And there.

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And there's more than zero of those.

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That's right.

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Thank you.

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But, um.

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Yeah, that's just so we're going to presentations.

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You can get the idea, let's go.

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That's a nice idea.

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We're going to go to the next slide.

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Propillation to commemorate our Lady of Assumption,

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Celebration of the 250th anniversary of the United States of America

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at the 70th Anniversary of the City of English Aud and recognized the dedication and commitment

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to our community.

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We knew very well, thanks for the sound, I'm doing this.

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To commemorate our lady of the assumption and celebration of the 250th Anniversary of the

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90th States of America, the 75th Anniversary of the City of English Aud, August 15, 26th.

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Well, our native assumption is dedicated to this year's key state to commemorate and honor

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to milestones, which is the University of the United States of America, and 75th anniversary

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of the city of England.

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Whereas, the celebration offers opportunity to gather in faith and gratitude, celebrating

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the blessings that have shaped the parish, our city, and our country. And whereas, the

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acknowledged the courage of our founders and the spirit of our community. We give thanks

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to the people and the stories that brought us to the stage of existence and whereas,

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Our lady dysfunction will sponsor a dinner to commemorate the celebration with good food and good comfort.

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Whereas now, therefore, I will use the name of smear protein.

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This is a legal side Texas due to recognize the August 5th, 2026 as a celebration of our lady dysfunction

488
00:40:04,170 --> 00:40:12,090
to honor the 250th anniversary of the United States of America, and the 75th anniversary

489
00:40:12,090 --> 00:40:19,050
of the city of England, outside. And recognize the exemplary education to the communities

490
00:40:19,050 --> 00:40:23,970
that represent. We've witnessed where I arrived a few months, you set my hand, and I was

491
00:40:23,970 --> 00:40:29,950
a seal, and I see an angle size to be a fix. This is the 11th day of August 26th.

492
00:40:39,220 --> 00:40:39,900
Thank you.

493
00:40:40,620 --> 00:40:41,240
Thank you.

494
00:40:44,700 --> 00:40:45,280
Thank you.

495
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:46,620
Thank you.

496
00:40:47,540 --> 00:40:47,660
Thank you.

497
00:40:47,660 --> 00:40:48,560
I hope we need to speak.

498
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:49,340
Thank you.

499
00:40:49,540 --> 00:40:50,840
Someone just need your ideas.

500
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:58,900
I want to say thank you very much for this.

501
00:40:59,040 --> 00:40:59,640
They're talking to me.

502
00:40:59,960 --> 00:41:06,000
And we look forward to seeing you all whoever can make it on the 15th of August for

503
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:11,260
in the city are maybe a piece of piece of tape and I just think it's nice to be able to celebrate

504
00:41:11,260 --> 00:41:17,200
the end of the 250th anniversary of the United States and we've been that in virtually like a little side of you.

505
00:41:17,720 --> 00:41:20,960
And it's very much a little advice to see if you need to come see me at my office.

506
00:41:25,540 --> 00:41:28,060
Please, please, stop that from the mountains.

507
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,440
I seconded it.

508
00:41:34,720 --> 00:41:38,380
Oh, I see

509
00:41:40,620 --> 00:41:42,020
who my friends are.

510
00:41:42,420 --> 00:41:43,240
I see who my friends are.

511
00:41:43,240 --> 00:41:45,820
I can hear nothing about it.

512
00:41:47,420 --> 00:41:48,880
See, I have to read and parcel that.

513
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:50,120
Do you want to do this in a different way?

514
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:53,900
It's sensitive to gender.

515
00:41:56,420 --> 00:42:01,180
Discussion consideration and possible action on regular meeting minutes of July 28th,

516
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:02,400
2026.

517
00:42:03,900 --> 00:42:07,900
Mayor for Tim, there were a couple of typos in the minutes

518
00:42:07,900 --> 00:42:09,700
that we would like to change.

519
00:42:12,700 --> 00:42:13,900
There are

520
00:42:13,900 --> 00:42:18,300
June 14th, instead of July 14th on number 8.

521
00:42:19,240 --> 00:42:25,720
And there's some extra of our veg in the closed session that needs to be removed off those minutes.

522
00:42:27,060 --> 00:42:33,160
I think to take any action for anything, we've got to bring it off in the same set.

523
00:42:34,780 --> 00:42:36,700
I can read it.

524
00:42:37,180 --> 00:42:38,360
We have to pull it out again.

525
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:39,360
Yeah.

526
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,120
I have to go ahead and read it please.

527
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:42,640
Okay.

528
00:42:42,900 --> 00:42:43,460
I think we're ready.

529
00:42:44,860 --> 00:42:45,560
So we're ready.

530
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:48,320
Do you want me to read it again?

531
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:58,320
Okay, this discussion consideration and possible action on the regular meeting minutes of July 28th, 2026.

532
00:43:00,720 --> 00:43:01,340
Council.

533
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:05,760
Can we pull up those changes per council to see that more?

534
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,120
Are they easily identifiable?

535
00:43:09,940 --> 00:43:17,640
They should be well, we didn't mark them on this, but on item number 8,

536
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:28,000
The June 14th should say July 14th, right there in the...

537
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:28,500
Search in there.

538
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:29,400
Item 8.

539
00:43:30,340 --> 00:43:31,160
To a place.

540
00:43:32,700 --> 00:43:37,240
And then in the closed session,

541
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,380
the verbage should stay.

542
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:43,960
If I can get to it.

543
00:43:47,190 --> 00:43:53,230
What needs to be removed is consultation with city attorney

544
00:43:53,230 --> 00:43:55,890
regarding legal issues related to.

545
00:43:57,250 --> 00:43:58,830
It's kind of rat in the middle.

546
00:43:59,010 --> 00:43:59,990
You just have rules.

547
00:43:59,990 --> 00:44:01,210
You're just type us.

548
00:44:01,330 --> 00:44:02,050
I'm a motion.

549
00:44:02,970 --> 00:44:06,270
Make motion, each set at accept the minutes,

550
00:44:06,650 --> 00:44:07,350
as I've amended.

551
00:44:07,830 --> 00:44:08,190
I'll second.

552
00:44:08,830 --> 00:44:09,930
I'll be a motion about it.

553
00:44:09,970 --> 00:44:10,690
I should deal with second.

554
00:44:11,070 --> 00:44:11,750
This is your story.

555
00:44:12,430 --> 00:44:13,250
Any further discussion?

556
00:44:16,670 --> 00:44:16,890
Okay.

557
00:44:17,290 --> 00:44:17,390
Okay.

558
00:44:18,310 --> 00:44:19,350
Who's my thing?

559
00:44:28,150 --> 00:44:29,710
She's always too advanced approach.

560
00:44:33,530 --> 00:44:35,030
I'm going to press right buttons.

561
00:44:37,620 --> 00:44:38,200
Close low please.

562
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:41,400
Motion carries.

563
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:52,060
Discussion consideration and possible action on approving a memorandum of

564
00:45:00,210 --> 00:45:10,690
And the city of Iran's past regarding evaluation and potential development of a future potable water supply arrangement and authorizing the mayor to execute on behalf of the city of England.

565
00:45:10,690 --> 00:45:11,030
side.

566
00:45:17,170 --> 00:45:22,030
You should do that before you remember a memorandum of understanding the point of seeing the

567
00:45:22,030 --> 00:45:27,770
side of the city of Iran's biggest past regarding the potential development of future

568
00:45:27,770 --> 00:45:37,230
water supplies and Iran's past did, accurately on this at the last meeting, however.

569
00:45:38,130 --> 00:45:39,790
Thank you.

570
00:45:41,130 --> 00:45:41,850
That,

571
00:45:45,770 --> 00:46:10,990
because of this, what has happened since they're adoption and that, a way, we are suggesting that this ought to be table to feature date, so that the city manager, since they now they have their new city manager, we can all set that and discuss the feature of our water supply, including the San Francisco water infrastructure.

572
00:46:10,990 --> 00:46:12,250
Yeah, it's a few of them.

573
00:46:13,250 --> 00:46:13,390
Yes.

574
00:46:13,390 --> 00:46:17,990
And we'll go ahead with the council and the manager will back this up.

575
00:46:18,030 --> 00:46:19,670
He and I have had some conversations.

576
00:46:21,910 --> 00:46:22,870
Interesting conversations.

577
00:46:23,370 --> 00:46:24,730
Speared with that times.

578
00:46:27,750 --> 00:46:33,350
And I certainly agree with what he is in a certain support.

579
00:46:33,590 --> 00:46:34,470
And I'll tell you why.

580
00:46:34,890 --> 00:46:38,310
First of all, and he knows everything I'm going to say.

581
00:46:38,450 --> 00:46:40,350
So this is not a gadget on it.

582
00:46:40,350 --> 00:46:47,350
But I need to put it on the floor, typically what happens, the instigator of lack of a better phrase that presents

583
00:46:47,350 --> 00:46:56,270
of the MOU is the one that has to accept the MOU that's going to be talked about by who we are asking

584
00:46:56,270 --> 00:46:59,030
to have an MOU with.

585
00:46:59,510 --> 00:47:05,710
In this particular case, this MOU never came to counsel, never came to counsel.

586
00:47:05,710 --> 00:47:09,990
The manager, and that's why he was alluding to one of the issues.

587
00:47:10,790 --> 00:47:18,810
And so therefore, we went to the Iranisist past city council on the third of August.

588
00:47:19,110 --> 00:47:20,970
I played back that meeting.

589
00:47:21,710 --> 00:47:28,190
It was even some things said that that meeting, that as the manager and I agree with,

590
00:47:28,530 --> 00:47:30,810
is not truly factual.

591
00:47:31,990 --> 00:47:33,950
As we said here at this moment,

592
00:47:33,950 --> 00:47:43,210
we are not in negotiation with seven cities. We table that and we table it and I say that because

593
00:47:44,390 --> 00:47:51,250
2020 hindsight, it's just that we've got elevated, just got accelerated and so and then in the middle

594
00:47:51,250 --> 00:47:58,030
of all this we had a presentation at the last meeting and I consider one of the best presentations

595
00:47:58,750 --> 00:48:07,530
by Mr. Price, who is who at my request is in our attendance tonight. I'm going to ask Mr. Price

596
00:48:07,530 --> 00:48:14,590
if he would come to the podium, please. And the manager knows everything else. First of all,

597
00:48:14,610 --> 00:48:23,450
I want to thank you. You are truly a shining light and a breath of fresh air. What is your title?

598
00:48:23,450 --> 00:48:27,670
I'm the general manager of the San Francisco Municipal Water District.

599
00:48:27,870 --> 00:48:34,390
I'm not going down the memory lane, but do you realize, in two meetings, you've been here,

600
00:48:35,350 --> 00:48:42,350
more than I think in my entire tenure as a city council member, a representation in this body

601
00:48:42,350 --> 00:48:50,130
before, that alone ladies and gentlemen, that alone, shows us his commitment, as he said

602
00:48:50,130 --> 00:48:58,850
last time to work with the transparent and promote that when it comes to water, it's not

603
00:48:58,850 --> 00:49:03,770
like streets in infrastructure, it's like you and I talked about, because every city has their own

604
00:49:03,770 --> 00:49:09,510
needs, with regards to streets and infrastructure. That's dependent on that city. But when it comes

605
00:49:09,510 --> 00:49:17,610
to water, we all have the common same interest, I think you would agree with that. Yes sir. Absolutely.

606
00:49:17,610 --> 00:49:20,170
And I think the manager agrees with that.

607
00:49:20,710 --> 00:49:31,610
And so, I would like to see England side be the mayor's

608
00:49:32,370 --> 00:49:35,510
of us through remote teamwork in New York customers

609
00:49:35,510 --> 00:49:37,390
because we're all into the water.

610
00:49:37,910 --> 00:49:41,510
There is no way on this planet that I want to lay to another 20 years.

611
00:49:42,370 --> 00:49:45,090
But thanks to the good, is the father still here?

612
00:49:45,610 --> 00:49:49,890
Okay, he must have been a traitor for the region, because

613
00:49:50,510 --> 00:49:54,850
our water, depending upon who you believe, but the fact is it is

614
00:49:54,850 --> 00:49:57,770
moving to the right of a little bit.

615
00:49:58,250 --> 00:50:02,310
That doesn't mean we wait like our friends across the bay.

616
00:50:03,530 --> 00:50:07,330
But when it's still, it's given us an opportunity to use,

617
00:50:07,910 --> 00:50:11,210
to listen to this gentleman right here to give him an opportunity

618
00:50:11,210 --> 00:50:15,110
because I know for a fact, and I want to thank the city manager

619
00:50:15,110 --> 00:50:21,010
for meeting with you. And it's my understanding for the manager. You walked away with a good feeling.

620
00:50:21,410 --> 00:50:31,110
Is that correct? Yes, sir. And I'm getting all this on the floor tonight. And one of the things the manager told me he was so impressed with something he didn't know.

621
00:50:31,350 --> 00:50:40,410
And I didn't know. And I've had that you know the council members knows. And that was it about water sources. You told me you were impressed with it.

622
00:50:40,410 --> 00:50:48,390
didn't know that he was well I know that because they are looking for other sources but I

623
00:50:48,390 --> 00:50:53,750
will say also that I did have the opportunity to speak with his previous employers about this

624
00:50:53,750 --> 00:51:00,470
gentleman and it was high up accolades he knows he's been and not per se art he's

625
00:51:00,470 --> 00:51:06,990
actually is but he knows the municipal world and that is so what I'm going to propose to

626
00:51:06,990 --> 00:51:14,250
Since I have been recognized, I've talked to the manager about this, is that we pump the breaks just a little bit.

627
00:51:14,530 --> 00:51:19,290
Let this potential transparency, you've already committed to us.

628
00:51:19,430 --> 00:51:21,990
I don't know what you've done with the other cities, other customers.

629
00:51:22,610 --> 00:51:26,470
But you've committed to us, it's your last presentation that you would be transparent,

630
00:51:27,330 --> 00:51:32,590
and you would reach out to us, that we can work as a collaborative team for the managers.

631
00:51:32,730 --> 00:51:34,130
That sounds like a good pass.

632
00:51:34,130 --> 00:51:41,490
So what I'm going to propose in the manager and I spoke about this is that we don't let it go.

633
00:51:42,190 --> 00:51:47,570
But we continue to try to work with that 60 year relationship that we've had.

634
00:51:48,130 --> 00:51:51,990
And it's actually we do not buy our water from corporate electricity taxes.

635
00:51:52,810 --> 00:51:54,070
I asked the manager to the last time.

636
00:51:54,090 --> 00:51:55,650
We write the check to you guys.

637
00:51:55,930 --> 00:51:56,590
Is that correct?

638
00:51:57,150 --> 00:51:57,810
That's correct.

639
00:51:57,810 --> 00:52:13,630
And the charge that the Sanctuary Municipal Water District has in the year leadership now is that the charge they have is not to make a profit but to provide a service.

640
00:52:13,630 --> 00:52:19,750
The manager and I talked about that desire to correct statement is and so when I'm proposing is that tonight

641
00:52:20,930 --> 00:52:21,470
that

642
00:52:22,910 --> 00:52:25,990
And again to a Ranzis past I appreciate I

643
00:52:26,910 --> 00:52:29,970
Think the mayor and I've said let's see move. I know who want to be in

644
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:57,380
And I want to propose that we tap the breaks, we don't kill this, but six months from tonight, at the first meeting, that we have our city manager come back to us with his proposals, his report on the transparency, and even fact, it's the right way to go to let you be our facilitators.

645
00:52:57,980 --> 00:53:03,600
I'm not so going to be anything, and that would be a motion that if the mayor

646
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:06,820
pro-Chim will allow me to go ahead and make, because by the way, it's proper

647
00:53:06,820 --> 00:53:09,800
procedure to make a motion and then hold discussion.

648
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:11,380
That's proper procedure.

649
00:53:14,720 --> 00:53:20,460
I'm going to ask the manager, is there anything that's been, is there anything that

650
00:53:20,460 --> 00:53:24,660
I've said that you and I did discuss that you would like to, and I'm going to stress the

651
00:53:24,660 --> 00:53:30,660
I'm not trying to guide everything, I'm just trying to bring a team back together on this side of the bridge.

652
00:53:31,060 --> 00:53:33,320
What's really the best for all of us?

653
00:53:33,580 --> 00:53:35,220
Would you like to add anything to another?

654
00:53:35,740 --> 00:53:37,580
Would you support everything that I've said?

655
00:53:37,900 --> 00:53:38,120
Yes, sir.

656
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:40,680
With that, I'm going to go ahead since I have been recognized.

657
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:42,380
I'm going to offer a motion.

658
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:43,900
I hope I give a second.

659
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:45,460
And then we can have discussion.

660
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:50,040
The motion would be that we'd tail, tail.

661
00:53:50,040 --> 00:54:01,040
Yes, until the first meeting after six months from tonight, every time the manager will come back and give his assessment and his Republic, I ask for a second.

662
00:54:01,720 --> 00:54:03,140
I will take a new deal.

663
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:04,380
Thank you.

664
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:06,860
The motion on this to deal on the second line.

665
00:54:07,100 --> 00:54:07,640
Mr. Franco.

666
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:10,040
Any further discussion on this?

667
00:54:11,100 --> 00:54:12,080
I'd like to see something.

668
00:54:12,580 --> 00:54:13,060
You know, go ahead.

669
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:13,560
Are we done?

670
00:54:13,940 --> 00:54:14,080
Okay.

671
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:15,900
I didn't know.

672
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:16,380
It's my turn.

673
00:54:16,700 --> 00:54:16,740
Yeah.

674
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:18,940
I don't agree.

675
00:54:18,940 --> 00:54:28,140
I don't want to agree that we wait six months, I feel like we were in a position that we were willing to shoot from the hit.

676
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:35,220
And I don't see any harm or felt, nothing to 60 year relationship.

677
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:43,240
I'm not saying that we're looking to go elsewhere, but you have to pay attention to everything.

678
00:54:43,240 --> 00:54:51,940
you have to see all of the options. I think that making a valid decision of anything without

679
00:54:53,580 --> 00:55:04,980
options is not right. So I think that obviously we're in a more in a good position to be able to

680
00:55:04,980 --> 00:55:12,560
take some time to look at these things, but I don't agree that we table it for six months.

681
00:55:13,140 --> 00:55:21,340
I think that continuing to use our internal resources, looking for other options, because

682
00:55:21,340 --> 00:55:27,480
at the end of the day, I don't believe that seven seasons was the option, was the route.

683
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:35,040
But their timeline to be able to produce anything was well over two years.

684
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:37,460
So we table this for six months.

685
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:42,620
Okay, we got pushed what? Two years, technically two years is around the term that they're saying

686
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:50,300
water should be good for. Correct? Yeah, that's up today, September 2022, but I think what you'll

687
00:55:50,300 --> 00:55:54,360
is when I reported that that was before in fours

688
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:56,100
in the late course, Christine.

689
00:55:56,100 --> 00:55:59,280
Now, I think that I've heard a range of things,

690
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:01,580
but I think it's going to,

691
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:06,100
you can expect another year is pretty safe

692
00:56:06,100 --> 00:56:09,180
conservative on in addition to that.

693
00:56:09,500 --> 00:56:13,320
So we took a year of trying to figure out

694
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:14,820
what it is that we're going to do.

695
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:18,580
And then it's two plus years to be able to actually do something.

696
00:56:18,580 --> 00:56:21,720
I don't think that's sitting on our ends for six months this night.

697
00:56:21,740 --> 00:56:22,500
No, it's a situation.

698
00:56:22,540 --> 00:56:29,500
If I can verify something, the MOU is just for between the Eagle side and the rest of the past.

699
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:30,340
It doesn't regret the city.

700
00:56:30,460 --> 00:56:30,740
That's all.

701
00:56:31,340 --> 00:56:32,580
I'll turn your wash clothes.

702
00:56:34,500 --> 00:56:34,780
Okay.

703
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:36,560
Is that not what he?

704
00:56:37,060 --> 00:56:45,920
So he tabled for six months for us to wait to hear from the city manager regarding what the water district was going to offer.

705
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:47,500
No, that's not my motion.

706
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:55,800
Well, I understand that you wanted to postpone this for six BMOU for six months, but the city, I mean,

707
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:57,220
the staff is still a small alternative.

708
00:56:58,040 --> 00:56:59,440
It doesn't stop that.

709
00:57:00,460 --> 00:57:06,320
And the other thing is, if I may respond, and I applaud, and I understand that I respect your opinion.

710
00:57:07,060 --> 00:57:11,820
But all this does, and I want us to all re-empt me and prove that one of the things we would

711
00:57:11,820 --> 00:57:17,280
guilty of and the manager that I talked about is we got so frustrated about the lack of transparency,

712
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:25,180
to see and the lack of even the very body that's opposed to the behavior that body was set

713
00:57:25,180 --> 00:57:30,440
basically for lack of a better phrase under their charter to provide the service. That's actually

714
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:38,300
a very charged reading. And we got so frustrated because we could never get transparency to

715
00:57:38,300 --> 00:57:42,960
be given the communication. I don't want to mention names. We all know who we're talking about.

716
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:54,880
But the manager that's reported to this council, that there's something there's a possibility of far, far better communication.

717
00:57:56,980 --> 00:58:01,460
And as far as experts, they are the experts, that's what they do.

718
00:58:02,900 --> 00:58:10,120
It's what are the related issues, they have the abilities, and he's given us a commitment to work with our manager.

719
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:12,520
I'm not saying I do a way with it.

720
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:15,420
Our staff can continue, and I agree on seven seats.

721
00:58:15,660 --> 00:58:20,460
That's why we're not negotiating with them right now.

722
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:21,320
That's been tables.

723
00:58:22,740 --> 00:58:28,500
But all I'm saying is, and the other thing is that we'll give the council the opportunity

724
00:58:28,500 --> 00:58:31,580
to truly talk about the language of the era.

725
00:58:31,740 --> 00:58:40,100
I've got a problem with something in there that's not in there, and that would be

726
00:58:40,100 --> 00:58:45,660
one phrase in there, subject to the ultimate of the final approval of the Hindu-Sat city council.

727
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:47,300
That's got to be in there.

728
00:58:47,740 --> 00:58:49,740
I'm not going to play purpose, Christy.

729
00:58:49,860 --> 00:58:56,040
We're going to be able to exclusive control to the city manager over there.

730
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:57,300
And that's not a slam.

731
00:58:58,020 --> 00:59:00,400
And that's all it's doing, it's just pumping the parts.

732
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:01,280
It's not.

733
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:03,380
It's continuing down the path.

734
00:59:04,700 --> 00:59:05,200
It's continuing.

735
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:09,920
except the manager will be continued and dialogue with this gentleman.

736
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:12,800
And if he comes back in here, we're still progressive.

737
00:59:13,420 --> 00:59:15,240
We'll write up an M.O.U.

738
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:20,120
And remember, we did not approve an M.O.U.

739
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:22,960
before it went to a Rances Pass City Council.

740
00:59:23,540 --> 00:59:25,660
I talked to the mayor about it.

741
00:59:25,980 --> 00:59:26,980
And that's the procedure.

742
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:28,840
It didn't happen this time.

743
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:29,800
And that's not a fault.

744
00:59:30,020 --> 00:59:31,220
There's 20, 20 on-site.

745
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:32,960
We all are caught up in the meeting.

746
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:39,880
And it be honest with you, we've got a second time of the shenanigans of a particular political body across the bridge.

747
00:59:41,660 --> 00:59:45,740
But you know what? We got a new sheriff in town. I'll put it in Texas for them.

748
01:00:00,020 --> 01:00:11,840
So I just want to give you the chance. That's all I'm asking. And I'm asking, let's get behind our manager. Let's get behind our manager. It's what he's saying too.

749
01:00:12,460 --> 01:00:22,020
So let's give him the chance to show us what you can do as well. Because he'd be forced to directly do us. That's all I'm asking. Thank you.

750
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:26,040
I want us to have questions for him while he's up there and all.

751
01:00:27,180 --> 01:00:28,000
Just curious.

752
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:33,040
So I was told that this is not the conversation we're having, but if we're just talking

753
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:34,300
about the end of the meeting,

754
01:00:37,150 --> 01:00:39,770
then again, no, that's a why we see progress to this.

755
01:00:40,130 --> 01:00:47,150
Because I wanted him to come here and once again, we reiterate his commitment for a

756
01:00:47,150 --> 01:00:54,990
for transparency and willingness to work with councils and work with the very people that

757
01:00:54,990 --> 01:01:01,730
don't remain a design to bother and give them a virtue to do what they do is to provide

758
01:01:01,730 --> 01:01:09,550
a source. And he's already said, the manager didn't know it. I didn't know it. They're actually

759
01:01:09,550 --> 01:01:15,970
looking for the same thing we're doing, looking for other sources. So let's pull out this

760
01:01:15,970 --> 01:01:17,590
It's cool what's funny, it was funny.

761
01:01:22,180 --> 01:01:22,540
Thank you.

762
01:01:26,670 --> 01:01:27,050
The topic.

763
01:01:27,510 --> 01:01:30,470
One question that came to mind for me and Nate's is,

764
01:01:30,510 --> 01:01:33,090
May we have our answer to pass representation here.

765
01:01:34,330 --> 01:01:36,450
Is there anything, is there any reason,

766
01:01:39,490 --> 01:01:41,550
table in this,

767
01:01:42,430 --> 01:01:43,670
affects you all in any way?

768
01:01:50,140 --> 01:01:51,520
I think I got all this.

769
01:01:52,380 --> 01:01:53,800
This is a broken record.

770
01:01:53,860 --> 01:01:57,280
This situation we're in right now happened in 1983.

771
01:01:58,060 --> 01:02:04,820
And I know that because my dad was smart to time, he likes to tell the story that the

772
01:02:04,820 --> 01:02:09,380
legs dried up, that we're this post-wraction water, and Hayden Hidd was a charge in

773
01:02:09,380 --> 01:02:10,520
noise to trigger authority.

774
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:16,200
So, while the war boys girls scaring, we played it right, filled with the reservoirs,

775
01:02:16,220 --> 01:02:19,980
and the rancids was put in about two weeks of building a decent plant.

776
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:20,700
And what happened?

777
01:02:21,300 --> 01:02:23,260
They said, well let's wait, we'll do it later.

778
01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:29,540
The geniuses on that side of the bridge have been doing a little kick in the can down the road.

779
01:02:31,180 --> 01:02:36,280
And as mayor of our past and I've got pretty good rock-side council members, we're looking

780
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:40,640
out for the best interest around this and we're going to grab the can of some kick in it.

781
01:02:40,980 --> 01:02:43,480
So that's what our stance is right now.

782
01:02:43,900 --> 01:02:44,080
Thank you.

783
01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:45,700
How'd you like to ask him a question?

784
01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:47,600
You heard what I said.

785
01:02:47,620 --> 01:02:49,100
Do you see any fault with the region?

786
01:02:49,460 --> 01:02:49,800
Excuse me.

787
01:02:50,620 --> 01:02:53,400
You see any fault with the reason what I'm trying to do?

788
01:02:53,740 --> 01:03:02,840
Well, the only fault I have is nothing against Sam Pat Water District, but nobody knows what the geniuses are going to do with the water rates.

789
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:15,280
Because of the debt they're in, there's an election coming up in November and it's getting pretty scary what's going on with who actually has done over the water supply, especially in this county.

790
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:19,340
we're all worried about Sam Peck County because both are down there. You would agree

791
01:03:19,340 --> 01:03:25,120
if I made the statement that there's a reason I picked six months, it gets his past

792
01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:30,080
out of the lecture so we have a better idea on that side of the bridge who would deal with.

793
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:37,480
Honestly, but I'll be honest with you, you've been asked me, I've waitins what got us here.

794
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:42,240
I'm sorry. Waiting is what got us here. Waiting is what's got us all this. I've certainly

795
01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:49,080
disagree with you. I can't expect that. If we, if we can't give that gentleman a six

796
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:56,420
month and that gentleman who's already said, he is supportive of it. And I'm going to

797
01:03:56,420 --> 01:04:01,020
sit in the block out of that gentleman right there because he has said, after meeting with

798
01:04:01,020 --> 01:04:07,820
that gentleman, it is worth it. We're not going away with it. And I keep going back the M.O.

799
01:04:07,820 --> 01:04:14,440
new procedure should never go on to Rances Pass City Council. I can't undo that. Oh, I get

800
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:20,940
that that's all y'all's in. I don't know. Exactly right. It's on this body. I, the student

801
01:04:20,940 --> 01:04:26,140
of all, I applaud you personally as I told you outside. I, I think you all want to work as

802
01:04:26,140 --> 01:04:32,120
a team then. Of course. And, and that's all I'm trying to do is to give a chance to see which

803
01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:37,880
the best way for the team and I keep going back that gentleman right there so he supports

804
01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:39,900
exact correct.

805
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:52,020
Yes, we're going to ask the board about the postponing of the MOE that does not mean that with Mr.

806
01:04:52,020 --> 01:04:53,120
When we come in, right?

807
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:53,480
Right.

808
01:04:54,180 --> 01:04:54,460
Right.

809
01:04:55,640 --> 01:04:55,680
Right.

810
01:04:56,900 --> 01:04:57,460
Right.

811
01:04:59,820 --> 01:05:00,140
Right.

812
01:05:00,140 --> 01:05:05,940
And also Vanessa over in Rockford, those are the three main cities that have been pursuing

813
01:05:05,940 --> 01:05:06,420
this.

814
01:05:06,580 --> 01:05:10,020
And, like, Emma, Bob, Bob, Portland has also been looking at alternatives.

815
01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:15,880
But that does not mean the discussion will not stop.

816
01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:16,380
Exactly.

817
01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:21,820
And it's not that we're not kicking the can down the road.

818
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:23,800
We're still going to start discussing.

819
01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:26,980
But I'm looking forward to working with a new city manager.

820
01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:30,220
I'll make sure you get you the number later.

821
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:33,920
Please say that.

822
01:05:35,100 --> 01:05:40,000
And in fact I was going to reach out to see if you want to go to Rockwell with me next week.

823
01:05:40,140 --> 01:05:40,540
That's good.

824
01:05:40,780 --> 01:05:42,100
Because we do have a meeting.

825
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:45,420
I do have a meeting coming up with a C major in Rockwell.

826
01:05:45,420 --> 01:05:47,600
I mean, great time for us, I'll set that up.

827
01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:55,100
And that doesn't mean we can't come back with interim reports to the council, because we can't keep kicking the can down the road.

828
01:05:55,220 --> 01:05:57,280
But we also need to see what.

829
01:05:57,420 --> 01:06:00,940
We'll set that water district as to offer if there is anything.

830
01:06:01,420 --> 01:06:08,080
That's an alternative water source that will be here and we have better control over the rights.

831
01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:09,160
Thank you.

832
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:09,780
The source.

833
01:06:10,660 --> 01:06:11,100
Thank you.

834
01:06:11,540 --> 01:06:12,860
And we don't have seven things.

835
01:06:14,700 --> 01:06:18,160
Well, I don't know if we did tour the plant.

836
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:23,100
Yeah, they came, they came to our council and gave a presentation.

837
01:06:24,740 --> 01:06:29,220
Yeah, we're not going to step on any tellers because y'all are kind of taking the lead on this one.

838
01:06:30,180 --> 01:06:31,060
So, that's part.

839
01:06:31,220 --> 01:06:33,680
It's all the top we've done too.

840
01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:36,780
Just want to bring that, there's a motion.

841
01:06:37,100 --> 01:06:37,860
There's a second.

842
01:06:37,860 --> 01:06:37,960
Okay.

843
01:06:39,420 --> 01:06:40,120
Let's still on this guy.

844
01:06:40,220 --> 01:06:41,980
I say yes, so that you can solve this guy's situation.

845
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:43,080
Should I, can I speak?

846
01:06:43,380 --> 01:06:43,780
I'm pretty sure.

847
01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:44,140
I'm pretty sure.

848
01:06:44,140 --> 01:06:44,520
I'm pretty sure.

849
01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:48,680
Pooleo went to the 70s and so it was Jesse.

850
01:06:48,900 --> 01:06:50,440
It was a very endless Linda.

851
01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:51,680
It was very informative.

852
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:53,900
They gave an excellent presentation.

853
01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:55,980
I don't think I've heard one yet.

854
01:06:57,640 --> 01:07:00,440
I have an extra Jesse or seen his presentation.

855
01:07:01,140 --> 01:07:03,820
But I'm just speaking from my personal.

856
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:12,120
Just my personal feelings about the situation, and I understand and I respect you or wanting

857
01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:17,960
to wait for six months, but that doesn't mean that Iran's is going to wait.

858
01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:26,480
I respect your decision, but we need to do what's best for our citizens and our community.

859
01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:29,960
And if that means moving forward, without English side means moving forward, without English side.

860
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:33,940
I agree with what you just said. Yes, thank you. Could you go off the house?

861
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:36,020
I'm sorry? Could you go off the house?

862
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:40,940
Out the house? Oh, oh, what the house is that we did out?

863
01:07:41,220 --> 01:07:47,380
I was in Alice. Yes, they're council, their council gave us a very good background.

864
01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:52,320
They're one of the only cities that has not had any water restrictions.

865
01:07:52,760 --> 01:07:57,440
At all, this entire time. They filled up their pools. They're great. They're grass's green.

866
01:07:57,440 --> 01:08:01,880
all of their citizens, they've had new development coming into the city, they've had no

867
01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:09,320
setbacks at all and their councilwoman that was there. I mean they have an extensive history

868
01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:15,400
and everything that they did. They had the foresight in doing this years ago where we were still

869
01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:22,160
you know talking about it or thinking about it and I me personally I feel like this is a setback

870
01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:35,740
And I really still look forward to working with English side, maybe on other projects, but on this, my personal feeling is just that we're just going to move forward on our own, but of course I'm just a person.

871
01:08:36,540 --> 01:08:42,460
I could be by myself on this and not know how everybody else feels, but that's just my personal feeling.

872
01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:49,280
I guess I have one question of price.

873
01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:50,440
Yep, you know mine.

874
01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:52,380
I guess if I'm getting this right,

875
01:08:52,540 --> 01:08:56,340
you have a plan to become more dependent

876
01:08:56,340 --> 01:08:59,280
in the current sources of water

877
01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:02,120
as far as the sandbat water district is concerned.

878
01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:04,920
Yeah, so a couple things.

879
01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:07,380
One, as of today,

880
01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:10,460
and there's not a project outside of what

881
01:09:10,460 --> 01:09:18,740
what we've worked on with Corpus, that is in the pipe works specifically just for

882
01:09:18,740 --> 01:09:26,540
sandpap to bring on additional water. Today, you know, this I met with I met outside

883
01:09:26,540 --> 01:09:34,900
of with Corpus I met with IDE and the hard violin project to understand that.

884
01:09:34,900 --> 01:09:39,650
I'm coming from a place where I don't have the, I don't have all the scar tissue yet

885
01:09:39,650 --> 01:09:46,710
yet from the area and and I think the approach that I'm taking in a whole to get the opportunities

886
01:09:46,710 --> 01:09:54,650
speak with all of our all of our municipal cities and partners in this and present on on the

887
01:09:54,650 --> 01:10:03,670
district and create that that communication because I do think that's what's been some of what's been

888
01:10:03,670 --> 01:10:11,730
missing here, but there's a couple of projects that are going to add resource today to

889
01:10:11,730 --> 01:10:20,750
our water supply that corpus is championing. The evangelum project, if it gets permanent

890
01:10:20,750 --> 01:10:30,190
and improve, it adds water to the capacity of the regional system. We take, as a district,

891
01:10:30,190 --> 01:10:40,010
we take 40 million gallons per day on average from a combination of the reservoir and or the

892
01:10:40,010 --> 01:10:47,090
the noises river, the mayor road's pipeline and treated water line through our contract.

893
01:10:47,130 --> 01:10:51,290
And that only makes up half of the available supply that we have.

894
01:10:51,490 --> 01:10:56,550
Now granted, I came into this when we were right up against a level one water emergency.

895
01:10:56,550 --> 01:11:05,870
that was everyone in understandably everybody's trying to figure out where the supplies coming from

896
01:11:05,870 --> 01:11:15,150
how we get through this. I believe that it wasn't a place for me to, and still not a place

897
01:11:15,150 --> 01:11:26,530
for me to say that the city shouldn't evaluate other every option that's on the table. I think

898
01:11:26,530 --> 01:11:34,550
at a city in my past job, and I had that responsibility as well, even though there were

899
01:11:34,550 --> 01:11:43,530
contractual commitments to others. I think it's important that everyone's tasked with that.

900
01:11:43,550 --> 01:11:49,830
I want to create an opportunity to work with y'all and y'all to know what, what we're actually,

901
01:11:49,830 --> 01:11:55,970
what we're actually doing. I will say that one of our, one of the things that I think I mentioned

902
01:11:55,970 --> 01:12:01,450
this a little bit in the presentation is water affordability and how that what that looks

903
01:12:01,450 --> 01:12:08,550
like across the entire district and the socio-economics that make up the water district.

904
01:12:09,670 --> 01:12:17,270
It's not all the same, not all of our customers have the same base to be able to spread

905
01:12:17,270 --> 01:12:23,230
cost over. So it's really important for us to manage what that is. I understand also the

906
01:12:23,230 --> 01:12:28,930
hesitation that we have from Corpus bringing on a lot of projects and what is that?

907
01:12:28,930 --> 01:12:30,310
What does that call to look like?

908
01:12:30,650 --> 01:12:36,370
Oh, I can really commit to y'all on in there, regardless that we're absolutely watching

909
01:12:36,370 --> 01:12:36,950
that.

910
01:12:37,610 --> 01:12:44,010
We hire great consultants to look at their calls to service that they put on all water because

911
01:12:44,010 --> 01:12:47,330
that's how we balance that.

912
01:12:47,330 --> 01:12:53,890
is there's things that desalignization has not been proven

913
01:12:53,890 --> 01:12:56,970
that it can be a cost of service on a raw law.

914
01:12:58,430 --> 01:13:03,110
So there's all kinds of things that we have to watch for,

915
01:13:03,210 --> 01:13:06,830
but that's in an effort to stabilize rates

916
01:13:06,830 --> 01:13:09,150
for our customers.

917
01:13:11,090 --> 01:13:13,650
We all do have a big asset in the district.

918
01:13:13,650 --> 01:13:21,570
that there is a plant in large pipelines, we're continuing to invest in those.

919
01:13:21,970 --> 01:13:24,310
We've got projects that add capacity.

920
01:13:25,230 --> 01:13:32,430
We're not going to let those become stranded for our communities.

921
01:13:32,670 --> 01:13:37,510
We want to make sure that we're still committed to adding the capacity in those.

922
01:13:37,510 --> 01:13:44,770
And just by doing some of that, we're going to add in our water project, we're going to

923
01:13:44,770 --> 01:13:51,510
add three to five in GV of capacity, just by changing the hydraulics in the system on the

924
01:13:51,510 --> 01:13:58,710
noises pipeline. But again, the noises has to have water, the river has to have water,

925
01:14:03,190 --> 01:14:03,350
the

926
01:14:03,350 --> 01:14:09,350
of the project coming into the mayor's pipeline, adds water to that system.

927
01:14:10,530 --> 01:14:15,610
So we're making sure that we have to be available to meet all of y'all's needs.

928
01:14:16,370 --> 01:14:17,830
That's my goal.

929
01:14:18,150 --> 01:14:26,110
My goal is to be more transparent, more communicative, get partnerships going.

930
01:14:26,110 --> 01:14:34,130
I'd like to offer the ability to create advisory type of groups,

931
01:14:34,450 --> 01:14:43,450
again, municipalities, and opportunity to come in and meet with our staff and go through the things that we have going regularly.

932
01:14:46,890 --> 01:14:48,470
I hope I answered your question.

933
01:14:48,930 --> 01:14:49,190
I think so.

934
01:14:49,190 --> 01:14:52,670
I'm a sister deal, as far as I don't want to break up,

935
01:14:52,670 --> 01:14:53,870
that's the commitment that we've earned.

936
01:14:54,250 --> 01:14:55,750
The relationship for many years,

937
01:14:56,730 --> 01:14:59,970
but I cannot disagree with the ranks of past presentation of witnesses.

938
01:15:00,700 --> 01:15:29,980
I'd like to polish up the memo, you continue looking at our source and you come back and say, hey, we are 80% independent from what corpus is drawn out. If we don't drown, we've got you back to the time. Then we can always shift things. But I think we need to give you your time to do and let the sample out of our district help us out and be our permanent source for another six years. But I think we need to also partner with that.

939
01:15:31,100 --> 01:15:36,780
and keep working that way and whichever, certainly we have to pull first.

940
01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:38,680
I don't think we should walk away from our answers.

941
01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:40,100
I think there's some more you should be polished.

942
01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:43,180
And put into place and maybe not at six months.

943
01:15:43,300 --> 01:15:43,740
Maybe sooner.

944
01:15:43,880 --> 01:15:47,700
We just have agreement that if we do something with water, we're doing it together.

945
01:15:48,500 --> 01:15:51,040
And if Sam Pat comes up and says, hey, we got a new source.

946
01:15:51,300 --> 01:15:54,340
We're not so dependent on what the outside of the bridge is doing.

947
01:15:55,120 --> 01:15:56,480
Hey, guys, we don't need to do that.

948
01:15:56,480 --> 01:15:58,540
We can stay here and we can work with our answers.

949
01:15:58,540 --> 01:16:00,220
and everybody gets a good feeling.

950
01:16:00,620 --> 01:16:04,240
So I think we don't want to squash a six-year relationship,

951
01:16:04,800 --> 01:16:05,980
but I fully agree with the ranks

952
01:16:05,980 --> 01:16:08,240
as we got to keep moving forward on our own agenda

953
01:16:09,020 --> 01:16:11,500
and when push comes a show, which one's going to...

954
01:16:11,500 --> 01:16:14,960
And nothing in my motion, nothing in my motion

955
01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:17,120
gives you the answer to what you've just said.

956
01:16:17,660 --> 01:16:19,640
Because the city's will snook talk,

957
01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:23,920
they would have to talk to give us a true and to look

958
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:26,740
at the wording and the phraseology of the MOU,

959
01:16:26,740 --> 01:16:32,320
They have the thing about six months that month and the manager that I talked about this.

960
01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:39,420
I'm trying to get us past the first year because in November and in December we only have one

961
01:16:39,420 --> 01:16:42,540
me and there's two months.

962
01:16:43,260 --> 01:16:51,720
I also want to get this election thing done in November, which I got my own personal feelings

963
01:16:51,720 --> 01:16:59,820
and all that stuff, but I think sometimes me included, we get blinded guys, but it has

964
01:16:59,820 --> 01:17:00,360
bad.

965
01:17:01,860 --> 01:17:09,160
I didn't like the previous group because I don't think they were performing as the

966
01:17:09,160 --> 01:17:15,720
establishment of this water, as their charge is to do, but that when the manager

967
01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:21,700
He rips me and tells me, all the times, he walked away from the meeting of a good field.

968
01:17:24,080 --> 01:17:29,080
That's the man we pay to give us guidance.

969
01:17:30,080 --> 01:17:33,000
That's the man we pay to give us guidance.

970
01:17:34,400 --> 01:17:40,060
And the last thing I'm going to say is that we have changed the policy on how we go forth

971
01:17:40,060 --> 01:17:41,260
within our years.

972
01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:42,960
I keep coming back.

973
01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:48,500
The envelope you should never have gone to the Iran's past city council because it was never

974
01:17:48,500 --> 01:17:55,080
the language was never approved by this council and God help us if we now had just thrown

975
01:17:55,080 --> 01:17:56,860
that procedure out the window

976
01:17:59,070 --> 01:18:03,730
for the manager to you find any fault because of you and I talk.

977
01:18:04,410 --> 01:18:12,670
Are you willing to think this is a half knowing you all could still work together and come up

978
01:18:12,670 --> 01:18:13,210
some of it.

979
01:18:13,250 --> 01:18:19,750
I believe that with the involvement with the staff of Ransus Taisley building continues

980
01:18:19,750 --> 01:18:20,830
to move forward.

981
01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:27,920
So, if I may ask, do we need six months to polish up the 10 of you out of the other

982
01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:28,980
Ransus Taisley?

983
01:18:31,540 --> 01:18:35,960
Plan B working out of the building all over the world, and I'll sand past that planning.

984
01:18:36,260 --> 01:18:41,580
Do we need six months to polish this up and then present a table to a Ransus?

985
01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:42,280
No, sir.

986
01:18:42,280 --> 01:18:48,560
So then if we can remove the six-month table of 90 days taking care of our MOU, 90 days.

987
01:18:49,560 --> 01:18:56,200
And we will continue to work with the ranks that pass to secure our look at every water source of the MOU.

988
01:18:56,340 --> 01:18:58,540
And I'm a little bit more motion tonight.

989
01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:03,100
I'm going to go ahead and use this opportunity to mend our motion from six-month to 90 days.

990
01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:08,340
And the manager will come back and give us his our inquiry.

991
01:19:08,340 --> 01:19:08,600
disease.

992
01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:15,120
You may just have to clean up the language and have the freedom to just body before it goes

993
01:19:15,780 --> 01:19:18,300
to the city, because I want that part cleaned away.

994
01:19:18,300 --> 01:19:24,100
I would like to see 90 days, you can be resented and re-wired and it has been edited.

995
01:19:24,220 --> 01:19:24,940
Let me just say.

996
01:19:25,060 --> 01:19:25,560
I mean, you're saying the birthplace.

997
01:19:26,700 --> 01:19:27,880
I mean, you're just circuitin the moment.

998
01:19:29,320 --> 01:19:30,140
It's a second.

999
01:19:30,340 --> 01:19:30,860
Yeah, I get it.

1000
01:19:30,900 --> 01:19:32,260
If you find 90 days, you say?

1001
01:19:32,280 --> 01:19:33,560
When we both omnis.

1002
01:19:33,560 --> 01:19:33,840
Yeah.

1003
01:19:33,840 --> 01:19:35,940
Not when we first see it.

1004
01:19:36,160 --> 01:19:37,020
I think it's the second.

1005
01:19:37,020 --> 01:19:40,680
90 days. 90 days, we both on every first to get to see changes.

1006
01:19:41,260 --> 01:19:44,080
Well, why not? Because it has to be voted on the 4th of year to advance this fast.

1007
01:19:44,480 --> 01:19:46,840
It's a 90 days to the right amount of year to agree with that.

1008
01:19:46,980 --> 01:19:49,540
She can do this. I can, I can set that for you.

1009
01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:53,300
Okay. We have an amended motion for the discussion.

1010
01:19:53,940 --> 01:19:54,440
Yeah, it's a subject.

1011
01:19:55,260 --> 01:19:56,380
Definitely. I'll make it short.

1012
01:19:57,320 --> 01:19:58,080
I'm out of breath.

1013
01:19:58,980 --> 01:20:00,460
I have a record to be on.

1014
01:20:01,160 --> 01:20:06,840
On this topic of water, it's something that has, it's tickle my tongue.

1015
01:20:07,300 --> 01:20:13,660
I've always said this, water, food and shelter, and what I mean by that is we have a short

1016
01:20:13,660 --> 01:20:14,240
of water.

1017
01:20:14,460 --> 01:20:21,140
Yeah, regardless of what we've been talking about, but it's grossly America, okay, short

1018
01:20:21,140 --> 01:20:21,540
of water.

1019
01:20:21,860 --> 01:20:23,260
Food, we have short, you know what I mean?

1020
01:20:23,820 --> 01:20:24,960
No, that's not food.

1021
01:20:25,320 --> 01:20:26,900
That's how you process, it's not real.

1022
01:20:27,180 --> 01:20:31,700
So we have short of food, cattle, goats, sheep, and they shelter.

1023
01:20:32,160 --> 01:20:33,920
Oh, free shelter, and then talk about homes.

1024
01:20:34,660 --> 01:20:35,380
Short of homes.

1025
01:20:35,380 --> 01:20:38,320
So anyway, I digress the one saying, Alice Texas,

1026
01:20:38,340 --> 01:20:39,740
one of the Alice Cuyolts, right?

1027
01:20:40,020 --> 01:20:42,480
Playing on Friday, night here, varsity.

1028
01:20:43,420 --> 01:20:44,680
They have to all water well.

1029
01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:48,920
There's no complaints from the citizens, Alice Cuyolts.

1030
01:20:49,780 --> 01:20:52,520
Well, how are we going to make the water portable?

1031
01:20:52,640 --> 01:20:53,400
They're doing it.

1032
01:20:54,160 --> 01:20:54,640
Case in point.

1033
01:20:55,100 --> 01:20:57,500
Mathis Texas, the wonderful man and Mathis,

1034
01:20:58,420 --> 01:20:59,440
reached out to San Francisco,

1035
01:20:59,620 --> 01:21:00,880
a water conservation district.

1036
01:21:01,080 --> 01:21:02,780
I need permits for water bills.

1037
01:21:02,900 --> 01:21:04,140
I need water for the citizens.

1038
01:21:05,200 --> 01:21:10,220
He received the permits, two wells, I will not energize them both at the same time.

1039
01:21:10,220 --> 01:21:12,120
I'll have a backup plan.

1040
01:21:12,660 --> 01:21:19,660
The Mathis mayor proactive thinking outside of the box, fully leaning approach.

1041
01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:22,000
Mathis leaders, right there?

1042
01:21:22,700 --> 01:21:27,360
The key was meeting water, Mathis, English sub.

1043
01:21:28,140 --> 01:21:29,200
So I digress.

1044
01:21:29,200 --> 01:21:33,660
Well, the D-SAL and San Antonio has D-SAL.

1045
01:21:34,540 --> 01:21:37,320
I didn't come prepared, this is me speaking from the head,

1046
01:21:37,680 --> 01:21:40,240
but they have like twin-lokes D-SAL in San Antonio.

1047
01:21:40,740 --> 01:21:43,300
Very effective. D-SAL.

1048
01:21:44,060 --> 01:21:47,300
They use MDographers as the wonderful gentleman

1049
01:21:47,300 --> 01:21:48,840
referred to as the source.

1050
01:21:49,360 --> 01:21:51,140
So water is an asset.

1051
01:21:51,780 --> 01:21:52,560
Is it asset?

1052
01:21:53,580 --> 01:21:56,620
And what I mean by that is they're trading it in the stock market.

1053
01:21:58,380 --> 01:22:02,320
It's way beyond us just what we're part of, I have water at home.

1054
01:22:02,600 --> 01:22:07,880
No, it's not like that, it's that droughts have been gone on for centuries, not a generation,

1055
01:22:08,480 --> 01:22:08,840
centuries.

1056
01:22:10,180 --> 01:22:16,800
And this is the year 2026, and we need to think of it at the box and have multiple avenues

1057
01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:18,880
diversify our portfolio.

1058
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:59,900
That many work on the pipes. Do you have two highways? So, while you're fixing the pipes, I'm not a welder, that we can diversify the water to this side or turn over, no, it's one pack. Okay, so what happens if a truck runs at all, will we lose that pack? Well, a map just goes empty, get none of them will happen again, regardless of other hundred years. But just in case it happens again, the operator drops and it regenerates an inch for every ten years or something. It keeps dropping.

1059
01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:12,900
So we need to say, we need a plan to work with wonderful Iran's past, a nice cohesive, fabric, no scene and say, we're going to have a mitigate,

1060
01:23:13,560 --> 01:23:18,920
Dinks on a side list, let's work together and agree on the plan. Whatever that pain may be,

1061
01:23:19,900 --> 01:23:27,800
or whatever, a constant conversation plan to carry the humidity, whatever, but I believe that

1062
01:23:27,800 --> 01:23:31,740
we should work with our ancestors past and getting water sources another day.

1063
01:23:31,980 --> 01:23:32,260
Thank you.

1064
01:23:32,680 --> 01:23:33,880
Thank you.

1065
01:23:33,880 --> 01:23:34,080
Thank you.

1066
01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:34,380
Thank you.

1067
01:23:34,900 --> 01:23:35,280
Okay,

1068
01:23:37,390 --> 01:23:38,710
guys.

1069
01:23:39,930 --> 01:23:42,570
So I got to hear the same presentation that you guys just heard.

1070
01:23:42,710 --> 01:23:47,050
What I took from that is there is a long standing relationship with somebody that is

1071
01:23:47,050 --> 01:23:47,730
not delivery.

1072
01:23:47,730 --> 01:23:53,830
I don't know, you guys have looked at your water bill, but I've looked at mine and it's not pretty at all.

1073
01:23:54,130 --> 01:23:59,130
I'm one of this kid right here, left a hose on overnight because you got it was our well one.

1074
01:24:01,710 --> 01:24:04,310
$450 for 24 hours of the well.

1075
01:24:04,490 --> 01:24:06,090
Let me know how to water pump it.

1076
01:24:06,370 --> 01:24:09,730
There's nothing price-wise that we're going to hear, but it's going to mitigate that.

1077
01:24:11,250 --> 01:24:13,990
And I'm near in Iran's past, I don't know if you guys are.

1078
01:24:13,990 --> 01:24:21,890
here and it loud and clear, you're on your own. We're going to move forward. That's big for

1079
01:24:21,890 --> 01:24:27,190
us. We're right next door. They will become the new 16 year knowledge just so you know,

1080
01:24:27,470 --> 01:24:32,550
we'll be paying men. That's what's going to ultimately end up happening. So I would say that

1081
01:24:32,550 --> 01:24:39,870
Victor makes a phenomenal point to vote on it. Have all of your ducks in a row within 90 days,

1082
01:24:39,870 --> 01:24:47,050
three months because any time that you waste, Jesse, Gallowice, we point it out, time is

1083
01:24:47,050 --> 01:24:50,570
of the essence. So I'm hearing two council members that I was

1084
01:24:50,570 --> 01:24:57,870
leader of by the way, being my voice. This is important and I appreciate that you're a questioning

1085
01:24:58,470 --> 01:25:03,650
six months as ridiculous, three months as ridiculous. But you guys are going to do what you're

1086
01:25:03,650 --> 01:25:07,190
going to do. I think that it can be done in a much quicker time frame and I don't want

1087
01:25:07,190 --> 01:25:10,690
and a water bill, oh, Chase is night over here.

1088
01:25:12,030 --> 01:25:14,430
I don't know, well enough, he'll be like, she's doubting.

1089
01:25:14,950 --> 01:25:17,310
So, just really think about that.

1090
01:25:17,330 --> 01:25:19,770
All I'm taking is this is a long standing relationship

1091
01:25:19,770 --> 01:25:20,790
that is failing.

1092
01:25:21,410 --> 01:25:23,290
The force is, I don't know what I'm gonna call it,

1093
01:25:23,690 --> 01:25:24,290
like, come on.

1094
01:25:24,570 --> 01:25:25,670
Separate from this.

1095
01:25:26,290 --> 01:25:26,970
Thank you.

1096
01:25:27,030 --> 01:25:28,530
Thank you, thank you.

1097
01:25:29,930 --> 01:25:33,350
One, all of the questions for staff,

1098
01:25:33,630 --> 01:25:34,930
I don't know about how you want to address this,

1099
01:25:35,170 --> 01:25:37,170
but, is there,

1100
01:25:37,170 --> 01:25:41,210
because they're not an option to pursue both at the same time.

1101
01:25:41,330 --> 01:25:44,050
Okay, I think, like,

1102
01:25:44,510 --> 01:25:48,350
to pursue both the MOU side and whatever option

1103
01:25:48,350 --> 01:25:49,970
the San Francisco is offering.

1104
01:25:51,050 --> 01:25:52,190
The MOU is just,

1105
01:25:53,270 --> 01:25:54,410
to facilitate these things,

1106
01:25:54,450 --> 01:25:57,390
we're going to get other assuming certain things transpired

1107
01:25:57,390 --> 01:25:58,730
if you can go.

1108
01:26:00,270 --> 01:26:03,450
So, the MOU currently sits and meets us

1109
01:26:03,450 --> 01:26:04,670
to a certain path.

1110
01:26:05,090 --> 01:26:06,670
No, the MOU is not,

1111
01:26:06,670 --> 01:26:11,030
is not a binding agreement, it just depends on the understanding of two cities working together.

1112
01:26:12,050 --> 01:26:14,430
But underneath everyone, certain things have to.

1113
01:26:14,710 --> 01:26:22,030
All right, certain things have to come about before you can even negotiate a water supply contract between two cities.

1114
01:26:22,650 --> 01:26:28,350
This is just the cities trying to work together.

1115
01:26:28,350 --> 01:26:32,930
So these legal orders, there's lots, lots, lots of things I need to pass for this can actually

1116
01:26:32,930 --> 01:26:35,150
develop into something fruitful for you.

1117
01:26:36,530 --> 01:26:38,270
I'm the owner of this motion.

1118
01:26:39,210 --> 01:26:41,290
So I'm going to try to wrap it up here.

1119
01:26:41,990 --> 01:26:43,950
Council get upset with me if you desire.

1120
01:26:44,630 --> 01:26:46,090
How the funny thing.

1121
01:26:47,030 --> 01:26:49,790
The real lady is exactly correct.

1122
01:26:51,410 --> 01:26:51,850
Yes, ma'am.

1123
01:26:53,230 --> 01:26:54,390
Everybody's trying to do this.

1124
01:26:59,790 --> 01:27:05,830
I think my notion has been, has been this construed. I'm not saying that the manager and

1125
01:27:05,830 --> 01:27:10,170
the power should be, and it said it's me, that the man's past would say, look, I'm going

1126
01:27:10,170 --> 01:27:16,830
to go on a road if you don't do this. That's said it's me. Because I would hope that our manager

1127
01:27:16,830 --> 01:27:22,350
will continue to work talk to a man's past. I'm not saying it's stop that process. And if

1128
01:27:22,350 --> 01:27:25,550
I heard a councilman evict your saying.

1129
01:27:25,950 --> 01:27:26,970
I mean, I'm in agreement with him.

1130
01:27:27,090 --> 01:27:29,090
All I'm saying is, folks,

1131
01:27:30,950 --> 01:27:32,770
we just just clean up the L and U,

1132
01:27:33,210 --> 01:27:35,330
but doesn't mean we know we keep researching.

1133
01:27:35,930 --> 01:27:37,810
The world doesn't stop, of course.

1134
01:27:38,210 --> 01:27:41,250
I just say, let's don't be like our four fathers.

1135
01:27:41,970 --> 01:27:43,850
Let's get it right, make sure the path

1136
01:27:43,850 --> 01:27:45,550
with going, everything is right

1137
01:27:46,250 --> 01:27:48,250
for the benefit of our communities.

1138
01:27:48,890 --> 01:27:49,990
That's all I'm saying.

1139
01:27:50,350 --> 01:27:51,930
I'm gonna say it again, I'm gonna read it right.

1140
01:27:51,930 --> 01:27:55,290
I'm not saying stop, nobody, no word did I say it.

1141
01:27:55,370 --> 01:27:58,830
We don't, the manager doesn't stop pursuing paths.

1142
01:28:00,270 --> 01:28:03,650
If it's going to be 30 or 90 days,

1143
01:28:03,810 --> 01:28:07,150
instead of, I mean, days you want 30.

1144
01:28:07,510 --> 01:28:10,070
So that's how you can be polished up.

1145
01:28:10,270 --> 01:28:12,330
The email you have to be polished up,

1146
01:28:12,510 --> 01:28:15,530
and I'm going back, we seem to have forgotten something.

1147
01:28:15,730 --> 01:28:17,630
Proceed you was not adhered to here.

1148
01:28:20,440 --> 01:28:22,300
And can't get around that one.

1149
01:28:22,300 --> 01:28:31,960
Procedure was not adhered to, but now I'm not slamming the manager. We all feel very strong about this. I don't like I've tried to stay away from the people across the bank.

1150
01:28:32,480 --> 01:28:39,200
I think I'll just say it on the record then, if any of us watching so be it, I think it's utterly absurd to weigh their hand in it.

1151
01:28:41,550 --> 01:28:44,390
Because, right, what is the important thing?

1152
01:28:46,870 --> 01:28:50,110
But my God, if we can't wait...

1153
01:28:50,110 --> 01:28:53,790
You said six of them or some sort of period.

1154
01:28:54,130 --> 01:28:54,670
How is it, how is it?

1155
01:28:55,150 --> 01:28:57,190
And bring it back to 90 days.

1156
01:28:57,330 --> 01:28:58,390
We have bring it back.

1157
01:28:59,430 --> 01:29:02,230
I'm willing to, I'm going to modify an emotion on that one.

1158
01:29:02,550 --> 01:29:04,970
I'm just saying, let's get it right.

1159
01:29:06,350 --> 01:29:09,250
And list don't throw procedure out to window.

1160
01:29:10,170 --> 01:29:15,190
Because if we do it one time, it becomes easier to second time.

1161
01:29:16,330 --> 01:29:17,430
And then the third time.

1162
01:29:17,430 --> 01:29:20,970
and then some council in the future was a way to make it.

1163
01:29:21,350 --> 01:29:24,470
We decide to do a district because that council did it back then.

1164
01:29:24,690 --> 01:29:28,250
I thought we have in the past we included the cast eyes

1165
01:29:28,250 --> 01:29:30,390
pre-risk council members actions.

1166
01:29:31,290 --> 01:29:33,130
So let's still follow under that same trap.

1167
01:29:33,230 --> 01:29:34,470
Let's get back to procedure.

1168
01:29:36,230 --> 01:29:37,830
I don't think the folks in the ranks have passed.

1169
01:29:37,890 --> 01:29:40,150
And I have the ultimate respect for the ranks as fast.

1170
01:29:40,390 --> 01:29:42,570
Because we're in this end of the county.

1171
01:29:42,910 --> 01:29:43,750
It's forgotten sometimes.

1172
01:29:45,530 --> 01:29:50,410
And I am so happy to see three members sitting in the audience.

1173
01:29:50,450 --> 01:29:52,170
That shows me they care.

1174
01:29:53,710 --> 01:29:54,890
That we are all the same thing.

1175
01:29:54,910 --> 01:29:59,970
All I'm asking is that we, there's a couple of areas.

1176
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:05,960
On our behalf subject to the old final approval of the Engelside City Council, that's not in there.

1177
01:30:06,040 --> 01:30:09,300
And I mentioned that to the manager. He knows that I'm going to try to put that in.

1178
01:30:10,040 --> 01:30:15,580
That protects our council because at the end of the day, we are the legislators.

1179
01:30:17,360 --> 01:30:24,420
Here's not the legislator. And I'm protecting that gentleman, so that which he's good at doing.

1180
01:30:24,420 --> 01:30:29,680
because he's done it before, the count of don't you remember 10 years ago if you said this

1181
01:30:29,680 --> 01:30:34,800
and I say that jokingly and I talked about that, all I'm doing is what you're saying,

1182
01:30:35,040 --> 01:30:38,520
that's just one of the first up in procedure, but you're here too.

1183
01:30:38,920 --> 01:30:40,820
So what does the city attorney question?

1184
01:30:42,040 --> 01:30:45,720
If this is done by next meeting, if this is polished up,

1185
01:30:46,020 --> 01:30:51,600
we've got your view at every happy with it, does this motion of 90 days hold it off

1186
01:30:51,600 --> 01:30:53,780
or if this, if all you have done.

1187
01:30:54,300 --> 01:30:57,800
The way of motion is it's your post going out for 90 days.

1188
01:30:58,240 --> 01:31:00,900
So we're gonna come back and tell the agenda,

1189
01:31:01,680 --> 01:31:01,980
listening.

1190
01:31:02,440 --> 01:31:05,400
It would be November 10th would be when this would come up

1191
01:31:05,400 --> 01:31:06,020
for above.

1192
01:31:06,140 --> 01:31:07,800
If it's done in two weeks,

1193
01:31:08,520 --> 01:31:10,360
and the burger is just right, it's been reviewed.

1194
01:31:11,120 --> 01:31:12,460
Are you good with a further need?

1195
01:31:12,460 --> 01:31:13,400
I'll tell you why not.

1196
01:31:13,520 --> 01:31:15,200
Because my concern right now,

1197
01:31:15,200 --> 01:31:17,000
we have another important thing

1198
01:31:17,000 --> 01:31:18,500
that we're in the middle of, let's call the budget.

1199
01:31:19,820 --> 01:31:27,260
And right now, we can't lose track of that, and also, I heard somebody say, well, you're already talking to this company, no, we're not.

1200
01:31:27,660 --> 01:31:34,140
All we're asking for is a handshake with them that if they move forward, they communicate with us, we move forward, we communicate with them.

1201
01:31:34,280 --> 01:31:38,480
And from the day we signed this, we're going to communicate on water and if we're saying,

1202
01:31:38,480 --> 01:31:42,240
Sam Pat gave us a warm and fuzzy so let's have a meeting that they give you them or not

1203
01:31:42,240 --> 01:31:48,520
No, they did we're gonna do our own thing then we can break this up and I want to give that gentleman a little bit of time

1204
01:31:48,520 --> 01:31:52,160
Cuz he even said here we are ready very looking for on our behalf

1205
01:31:53,240 --> 01:31:58,960
We're all working the same except working his interview this as the rancids tonight are talking together

1206
01:31:58,960 --> 01:32:03,220
And if we feel warm and fuzzy about Sam Pat has a two towns together

1207
01:32:03,220 --> 01:32:06,580
We'll both say that's the way we want to go and if a rancid wants to

1208
01:32:06,580 --> 01:32:08,820
I don't know, you know, you want to know this about it.

1209
01:32:08,840 --> 01:32:12,460
So it says that we decide to buy water and do our own well.

1210
01:32:12,800 --> 01:32:13,800
We'll partner with them.

1211
01:32:14,140 --> 01:32:15,840
So we decide we like SamPap.

1212
01:32:16,380 --> 01:32:17,280
We didn't drill a well.

1213
01:32:17,460 --> 01:32:18,400
Obviously we're not doing it.

1214
01:32:18,700 --> 01:32:18,800
Part of it.

1215
01:32:18,800 --> 01:32:22,260
Do you realize we're not even going to have to point to know where we could get the water to sell

1216
01:32:22,260 --> 01:32:22,900
and get?

1217
01:32:23,260 --> 01:32:24,860
We have even to breathe on that shit.

1218
01:32:26,980 --> 01:32:30,620
We have even to breathe on that because we're not negotiating with seven sea folks.

1219
01:32:32,950 --> 01:32:36,590
This year, ducks in a row, and tasks the manager to do that.

1220
01:32:38,030 --> 01:32:42,330
That's what an M.O.U. is about. If you're going to know with an M.O.U.

1221
01:32:42,350 --> 01:32:46,170
and proposed an M.O.U, you better have it. You better have to be able to facilitate and

1222
01:32:46,170 --> 01:32:51,170
provide an accordance with what you ultimately negotiate. Is that correct for the manager?

1223
01:32:51,670 --> 01:32:51,970
Yes, sir.

1224
01:32:52,050 --> 01:32:54,310
That's called medicine for government folks.

1225
01:32:55,390 --> 01:32:56,030
Max, is it?

1226
01:32:57,090 --> 01:32:57,950
Yes, sir.

1227
01:32:58,370 --> 01:33:00,050
So, I actually think it's important.

1228
01:33:00,310 --> 01:33:06,950
I would like to know from the mayor of Iran'sists when you guys issued this M.O.U.

1229
01:33:06,950 --> 01:33:14,590
Well, as you are understanding, I know that it was not done procedurally, but I'm just curious

1230
01:33:14,590 --> 01:33:19,970
because to me, it sounds like they were under the understanding that we were moving forward.

1231
01:33:20,090 --> 01:33:22,590
Because to me, this is even a conversation.

1232
01:33:22,890 --> 01:33:27,610
We have nothing to offer our lenses, we're nowhere near anything, we have nothing to offer anything.

1233
01:33:27,610 --> 01:33:35,670
We initiated the MOU man, not them, we initiated it, they did let us, we went to them.

1234
01:33:35,670 --> 01:33:37,070
And that's the way I didn't know you were.

1235
01:33:37,290 --> 01:33:44,470
Yeah, we voted on it because the last time I spoke in a podium, Councilman Diel, he wanted something like that and I was like, no problem, we'll start working on it.

1236
01:33:44,490 --> 01:33:49,210
I wanted the discussion something to be brought back to this council, go back and listen to the tape.

1237
01:33:49,350 --> 01:33:51,250
All right, yeah, that's why we say he didn't want it.

1238
01:33:51,250 --> 01:33:51,830
He didn't want it.

1239
01:33:51,830 --> 01:33:52,530
He didn't want it.

1240
01:33:52,530 --> 01:33:53,550
So we get it all right.

1241
01:33:53,750 --> 01:33:55,410
I mean, what we get it all right.

1242
01:33:55,730 --> 01:33:56,190
We get it all right.

1243
01:33:56,370 --> 01:33:57,330
I don't have any.

1244
01:33:57,630 --> 01:33:58,170
You did.

1245
01:33:59,070 --> 01:34:02,490
It was clean, materially presented to you all.

1246
01:34:03,330 --> 01:34:04,110
That's what happens.

1247
01:34:04,110 --> 01:34:13,170
So what is your understanding? Well, what is your understanding that this M.M.U. entails pretty much all M.M.U. is it's not talk

1248
01:34:13,170 --> 01:34:18,350
It's supplement writing that we're willing to work with another city that's that's bank purpose of the M.M.U.

1249
01:34:18,670 --> 01:34:24,910
But it's not saying that we are providing the water. It's not saying Iran's is providing the water.

1250
01:34:25,330 --> 01:34:28,410
It's this is literally just a hand-shaped conversation.

1251
01:34:30,530 --> 01:34:32,430
There's no legal binding to it.

1252
01:34:32,430 --> 01:34:42,190
I listened to the presentation to the council by our staff and it said we are negotiating with

1253
01:34:42,190 --> 01:34:43,610
seven seas.

1254
01:34:45,210 --> 01:34:49,250
We are not negotiating with seven seas that had to do with them.

1255
01:34:49,610 --> 01:34:53,370
She's moved on there and you're new to this term.

1256
01:34:53,870 --> 01:34:59,430
Well, we have not actually had anything to do with seven seas, three out of seven seas.

1257
01:34:59,430 --> 01:35:07,950
The other four have been negotiations that had meetings on it that had executive sessions on it other than following meetings online

1258
01:35:07,950 --> 01:35:13,710
I truly know nothing about where it started, where it stopped, why it stopped, I don't know nothing about any of it

1259
01:35:13,710 --> 01:35:23,670
So we are kind of in a loss, we only know which is why every council member should understand what is being presented to another city

1260
01:35:23,670 --> 01:35:27,410
They would expect the same thing if they were the initiators.

1261
01:35:27,810 --> 01:35:30,450
When it got, when it become to us, we would assume

1262
01:35:31,350 --> 01:35:36,490
that their counsel has voted on it, has agreed to the language.

1263
01:35:37,510 --> 01:35:39,950
I don't agree with the language at it.

1264
01:35:40,350 --> 01:35:43,250
You'll never give your city manager a carte block,

1265
01:35:43,530 --> 01:35:47,330
negotiation, you always put the phrase in there.

1266
01:35:48,190 --> 01:35:49,470
And that's what has to go.

1267
01:35:49,590 --> 01:35:52,910
We and where the presenters are not there.

1268
01:35:52,910 --> 01:35:54,510
They've done nothing wrong.

1269
01:35:54,910 --> 01:35:56,370
All right, let me try and move this along and see it.

1270
01:35:56,370 --> 01:35:58,450
No, I've got really right to fight on this one.

1271
01:35:58,630 --> 01:36:00,450
And I intend on trying to move on.

1272
01:36:01,210 --> 01:36:02,390
There is a motion on the floor.

1273
01:36:02,450 --> 01:36:03,410
Yes, there is.

1274
01:36:03,510 --> 01:36:05,330
There's a motion on the second on the floor.

1275
01:36:06,150 --> 01:36:09,590
Any further discussion or clarification from staff

1276
01:36:09,590 --> 01:36:11,450
on all this discussion so far?

1277
01:36:11,670 --> 01:36:12,010
That's it.

1278
01:36:12,090 --> 01:36:14,130
One last time, do you support the motion, sir?

1279
01:36:14,270 --> 01:36:14,810
Yes or that?

1280
01:36:16,350 --> 01:36:16,870
I did.

1281
01:36:17,130 --> 01:36:17,750
Thank you.

1282
01:36:18,950 --> 01:36:21,670
So, one final comment for me,

1283
01:36:21,670 --> 01:36:28,650
I hope our this boat goes, hope our answer is passed, can still work with us on it or it.

1284
01:36:30,230 --> 01:36:33,050
No, this doesn't kill anything, it's just delaying it.

1285
01:36:34,970 --> 01:36:36,950
We're just going to be a matter of time.

1286
01:36:37,070 --> 01:36:39,370
I hope we continue to communicate and then work together.

1287
01:36:39,910 --> 01:36:40,690
So any man?

1288
01:36:42,450 --> 01:36:42,730
But, alright.

1289
01:36:43,070 --> 01:36:44,390
No further discussion with questions.

1290
01:36:44,670 --> 01:36:45,970
And just so we can clear the record.

1291
01:36:46,210 --> 01:36:46,910
How long would it go?

1292
01:36:47,250 --> 01:36:48,330
I hope you know in the possibilities.

1293
01:36:48,670 --> 01:36:50,170
I just quite know what I believe.

1294
01:36:50,750 --> 01:36:51,870
As I expect you all to do.

1295
01:36:51,870 --> 01:37:04,070
Oh, for scheduling though, for scheduling, if this does not pass, is there the capability to make a different motion also?

1296
01:37:05,050 --> 01:37:09,370
You can make as many motions as you want until something passes.

1297
01:37:09,370 --> 01:37:14,550
I'll say if there is to agency I'm on you, I may have calcered for action and I can vote.

1298
01:37:17,590 --> 01:37:18,410
What are...

1299
01:37:18,410 --> 01:37:19,490
Refresh me, was it?

1300
01:37:20,170 --> 01:37:20,450
Six...

1301
01:37:20,450 --> 01:37:20,770
What was it?

1302
01:37:21,110 --> 01:37:21,550
Six...

1303
01:37:21,550 --> 01:37:25,670
Did you hear that?

1304
01:37:25,670 --> 01:37:27,030
That was a huge emotion.

1305
01:37:27,350 --> 01:37:27,850
I was a...

1306
01:37:28,330 --> 01:37:29,950
It was a pose-bone sign for me.

1307
01:37:37,330 --> 01:37:59,610
I'm going to miss that motion. I think it makes some people happy. I'm going to add something to it. 90 days, subject to, I'm going to give the manager a little bit of leeway here. If he feels that he needs to come back sooner, he has the option to bring it back to the council center. That opens it up broader.

1308
01:38:00,110 --> 01:38:01,590
to know the lack of the city manager.

1309
01:38:02,610 --> 01:38:04,510
So I asked for a second that edition

1310
01:38:04,510 --> 01:38:05,810
for amendment to my motion.

1311
01:38:07,330 --> 01:38:08,230
So I'm a little sorry.

1312
01:38:08,910 --> 01:38:09,750
Well, now I'm good.

1313
01:38:09,930 --> 01:38:10,030
I'm good.

1314
01:38:10,170 --> 01:38:11,310
I was thinking out loud.

1315
01:38:11,310 --> 01:38:12,430
So that's the motion.

1316
01:38:12,690 --> 01:38:13,790
Post blown out for 90s.

1317
01:38:13,930 --> 01:38:17,310
However, if Brett gets on the moving forward faster,

1318
01:38:17,890 --> 01:38:19,690
he can bring a desire to think of active counts.

1319
01:38:20,290 --> 01:38:23,770
So November 10th will be the latest, as well as the latest.

1320
01:38:23,770 --> 01:38:24,690
No later than.

1321
01:38:24,830 --> 01:38:26,270
Which is 91 days.

1322
01:38:30,670 --> 01:38:36,270
We have me in November, has been moved to November 9th.

1323
01:38:37,110 --> 01:38:38,210
Oh, let's see.

1324
01:38:39,770 --> 01:38:40,650
Let's see.

1325
01:38:40,850 --> 01:38:42,810
All right, so we have a motion tonight.

1326
01:38:42,970 --> 01:38:44,930
I said, well, I shouldn't thank you this time.

1327
01:38:45,410 --> 01:38:46,450
We have a amended motion.

1328
01:38:46,630 --> 01:38:47,870
We have a second for that one.

1329
01:38:48,070 --> 01:38:49,470
It has to be the original second.

1330
01:38:49,770 --> 01:38:50,970
I'll set it.

1331
01:38:50,970 --> 01:38:51,910
All right, generally I have the motion.

1332
01:38:52,710 --> 01:38:52,910
Okay.

1333
01:38:52,910 --> 01:38:53,290
I don't

1334
01:38:55,370 --> 01:38:58,810
know any further discussion on the amended mode.

1335
01:38:59,490 --> 01:39:02,570
I might just say that.

1336
01:39:04,590 --> 01:39:05,990
I just say that.

1337
01:39:07,630 --> 01:39:08,950
I should just say that.

1338
01:39:21,200 --> 01:39:22,220
Can I change my vote?

1339
01:39:22,620 --> 01:39:23,500
I see the results.

1340
01:39:26,540 --> 01:39:27,240
We can see the results.

1341
01:39:27,540 --> 01:39:28,800
So they closed it.

1342
01:39:29,960 --> 01:39:31,400
Motion carries.

1343
01:39:36,450 --> 01:39:36,690
All right.

1344
01:39:37,050 --> 01:39:37,410
All right.

1345
01:39:37,410 --> 01:39:37,690
All right.

1346
01:39:38,190 --> 01:39:38,330
All right.

1347
01:39:38,330 --> 01:39:40,970
All right.

1348
01:39:44,920 --> 01:39:50,380
Discussion, consideration and possible action on agreement between the city of England side and the Texas coast

1349
01:39:50,380 --> 01:40:03,840
youth stalker league for the use of inosiments park soccer fields for the period of August 31st, 2026 through December 6th, 2026 and from January 4th, 2027 through May 9th, 2027.

1350
01:40:03,840 --> 01:40:06,160
Oh, he's just going to be staring at you.

1351
01:40:06,340 --> 01:40:08,560
Well, I'm not going to call him and I'm going to call him next to me.

1352
01:40:09,200 --> 01:40:13,620
So my approach to him in the city turning this was a

1353
01:40:13,620 --> 01:40:16,980
original draft that was from last years that I was prepared by his office.

1354
01:40:17,800 --> 01:40:20,000
And he saw some things that he would like to add.

1355
01:40:21,160 --> 01:40:25,380
And I know that the leading starts on the third and first, which

1356
01:40:25,380 --> 01:40:30,260
of it appears, we can put it on for the 25th agenda, which

1357
01:40:30,260 --> 01:40:32,940
and then we can still go ahead and enter into the agreement with them

1358
01:40:32,940 --> 01:40:38,540
of this, but with there knowing that, you know, it's not, I mean, I don't see it, but we will

1359
01:40:38,540 --> 01:40:41,500
be proceeding with the site program that we did last year.

1360
01:40:41,860 --> 01:40:45,820
And if you all, so it was a couple of options here, as you can authorize the manager to

1361
01:40:47,160 --> 01:40:50,420
excuse the agreement once it's been reviewed by Council, that way there's nothing

1362
01:40:50,420 --> 01:40:53,980
back for the next meeting, or we could bring it back with the next meeting, and I don't

1363
01:40:53,980 --> 01:40:54,880
want to bring those changes.

1364
01:40:55,720 --> 01:40:58,840
The main change is I'm going to make, it's just really clarified that this is a licensed

1365
01:40:58,840 --> 01:41:00,240
agreement, it's not a least agreement.

1366
01:41:02,580 --> 01:41:07,860
And some other small things that needs to be in here that wasn't in the scrap.

1367
01:41:11,760 --> 01:41:18,180
So we need a motion to bring it back or can we just wouldn't be cleaner to take.

1368
01:41:18,680 --> 01:41:19,720
That way you see the product.

1369
01:41:20,060 --> 01:41:21,000
Yeah, we can do that.

1370
01:41:21,180 --> 01:41:22,200
And raise it in.

1371
01:41:22,200 --> 01:41:23,320
Turn that back.

1372
01:41:23,360 --> 01:41:23,720
A minute.

1373
01:41:24,580 --> 01:41:24,700
Okay.

1374
01:41:24,700 --> 01:41:31,600
Yeah, Andy brought back on the 25th meeting, which is six days before they start with it when I started using the field.

1375
01:41:31,800 --> 01:41:32,820
They come through with that.

1376
01:41:32,820 --> 01:41:36,660
And I also request, as soon as it's ready, they get to see it.

1377
01:41:36,880 --> 01:41:38,400
Yeah, I don't have to win.

1378
01:41:38,720 --> 01:41:41,980
I'd like to review it before it becomes you guys.

1379
01:41:42,200 --> 01:41:43,900
That way I'm agreeing with it as well.

1380
01:41:44,160 --> 01:41:45,280
That condition is our issue.

1381
01:41:46,200 --> 01:41:49,100
Yeah, and it's not going to change the function of the agreement.

1382
01:41:49,480 --> 01:41:51,740
It just or things that has I've been doing these more.

1383
01:41:51,740 --> 01:41:59,760
there are other provisions all right so any emotions to you all that is discussed

1384
01:42:00,240 --> 01:42:11,200
just motion up table that's meeting I'm going to make a motion to take a

1385
01:42:11,200 --> 01:42:15,060
link for now bring it back to the Council with them and I'll say

1386
01:42:15,760 --> 01:42:19,120
I'm going to have a motion to find this one, and I'm going to second find this one, so

1387
01:42:21,100 --> 01:42:26,860
to bring it back to the next meeting with the amendments as discussed.

1388
01:42:28,910 --> 01:42:29,990
Any further discussion?

1389
01:42:32,840 --> 01:42:35,000
All right. Open the vote please.

1390
01:42:35,720 --> 01:42:35,900
Thank you.

1391
01:42:39,820 --> 01:42:40,940
Do you have a vote?

1392
01:42:41,200 --> 01:42:42,380
I need a trend to distract.

1393
01:42:43,520 --> 01:42:43,920
I vote.

1394
01:42:47,070 --> 01:42:48,110
Close the vote please.

1395
01:42:49,090 --> 01:42:50,810
I don't know who's going to be every hour.

1396
01:42:51,490 --> 01:42:52,150
Motion carries.

1397
01:42:52,350 --> 01:42:52,790
Motion carries.

1398
01:42:54,670 --> 01:42:55,110
I

1399
01:42:57,740 --> 01:43:00,040
can't go ahead with Scoopie.

1400
01:43:02,500 --> 01:43:04,260
I always said you don't hear anything.

1401
01:43:04,960 --> 01:43:06,380
Yeah, but I don't know what's going to be it.

1402
01:43:09,630 --> 01:43:10,010
I say that.

1403
01:43:10,410 --> 01:43:12,510
Just watch this make us go right now.

1404
01:43:13,890 --> 01:43:15,590
I'm releasing a great thing here.

1405
01:43:15,950 --> 01:43:16,530
Not much else.

1406
01:43:16,750 --> 01:43:17,190
What do you have?

1407
01:43:17,350 --> 01:43:18,670
Do you want to go and get those reached out?

1408
01:43:19,410 --> 01:43:19,510
Yes.

1409
01:43:19,970 --> 01:43:21,550
I don't know.

1410
01:43:23,170 --> 01:43:25,550
Discussion consideration and possible action on the first

1411
01:43:25,550 --> 01:43:30,290
creating of an ordinance of the city of Anglo-Side Texas, creating and adding article 7.

1412
01:43:30,690 --> 01:43:36,250
Motor-assisted scooters, bicycles, and electric bicycles to chapter 62, traffic and vehicles

1413
01:43:36,250 --> 01:43:42,030
of the code of ordinances of the city of Anglo-Side, adopting regulations governing the operation

1414
01:43:42,030 --> 01:43:46,990
of motor-assisted scooters, bicycles, and electric bicycles upon public property.

1415
01:43:47,390 --> 01:43:53,250
Providing affinity, providing a savings clause, providing severability clause, providing for publication,

1416
01:43:53,250 --> 01:43:55,690
and providing an effective date?

1417
01:43:57,420 --> 01:43:58,060
All right, yes.

1418
01:43:59,100 --> 01:43:59,120
Yes.

1419
01:43:59,620 --> 01:44:02,740
As the council is aware that this has been brought before

1420
01:44:03,340 --> 01:44:06,020
the city attorney with direction from the council

1421
01:44:06,020 --> 01:44:07,760
to add some additions.

1422
01:44:08,820 --> 01:44:09,960
This is the draft board.

1423
01:44:10,040 --> 01:44:11,940
And so I think one of the main concerns that we had

1424
01:44:11,940 --> 01:44:15,100
was under the Texas Transportation Code that

1425
01:44:15,100 --> 01:44:19,240
when you address a pedal bicycle or a motorized by

1426
01:44:19,240 --> 01:44:22,000
a bicycle still has to be treated just like a bicycle.

1427
01:44:22,000 --> 01:44:28,280
And as therefore, that had to be addressed also, one of the maintenance arms was the area

1428
01:44:28,280 --> 01:44:33,180
and it has Simmons around the walking trail that has been said as feeble on that day.

1429
01:44:34,020 --> 01:44:38,900
And because of that, please, I have no idea what I'm talking about.

1430
01:44:39,060 --> 01:44:41,020
Please, I have no idea what I'm talking about.

1431
01:44:41,280 --> 01:44:47,260
Well, I mean, what I'm talking about is that what the maintenance staff received was,

1432
01:44:47,260 --> 01:44:52,800
the speed that people ride in their bicycles or their motorized vehicles that were in the

1433
01:44:52,800 --> 01:44:59,420
electric bikes on the walking trail. And therefore that has changed.

1434
01:45:00,850 --> 01:45:28,170
Assembly that in any way, but this does have the changes. This would be the first reading of this ordinance. We are trying to get, first of all, the council knows what is in there, the city attorney's back in here. We are already meeting in this ordinance to be passed on first reading and moved to second reading since there are no major changes that we would consider see, but it's up for discussion.

1435
01:45:31,970 --> 01:45:35,070
I don't have anything else.

1436
01:45:35,150 --> 01:45:35,330
I'm not having anything else.

1437
01:45:35,330 --> 01:45:36,630
I'm not having anything else.

1438
01:45:36,690 --> 01:45:37,630
There's a statement.

1439
01:45:38,410 --> 01:45:39,270
What's the statement?

1440
01:45:39,450 --> 01:45:40,270
That was my question.

1441
01:45:40,870 --> 01:45:41,610
I'm all.

1442
01:45:42,130 --> 01:45:43,810
So I think what I'm thinking of granted.

1443
01:45:43,930 --> 01:45:45,850
So one of the things the council asked is,

1444
01:45:47,190 --> 01:45:50,110
you know, there are places where you can't have e-bikes.

1445
01:45:50,470 --> 01:45:52,150
Why come up with everything for e-bikes?

1446
01:45:52,370 --> 01:45:54,190
Well, there's a thing, well, I'm listening to your packet.

1447
01:45:55,010 --> 01:45:57,090
That talks about where you all can.

1448
01:45:58,410 --> 01:45:59,850
Where, traditional bikes are allowed.

1449
01:45:59,850 --> 01:46:01,870
versus where e-bikes are allowed.

1450
01:46:02,310 --> 01:46:05,890
And generally, more traditional bikes allow me like has to be allowed.

1451
01:46:06,150 --> 01:46:09,850
Unless the trail is unimproved.

1452
01:46:10,670 --> 01:46:13,470
Like a dirt trail is where I imagine you're referring to.

1453
01:46:13,770 --> 01:46:17,390
Or if there's, uh, uh,

1454
01:46:18,130 --> 01:46:19,530
it's not with the motor vehicles.

1455
01:46:20,430 --> 01:46:22,110
So when I spoke to Grandma about that,

1456
01:46:22,110 --> 01:46:23,870
when the Vinti suggested was what for you know,

1457
01:46:23,870 --> 01:46:25,770
some spark. For that trail,

1458
01:46:26,130 --> 01:46:28,610
it'd be a five mile per hour limit for bikes,

1459
01:46:28,610 --> 01:46:33,810
which it's up to you all to, if you all want to keep that or increase it.

1460
01:46:34,130 --> 01:46:37,510
And then sidewalks would be a ten-month-old route route route route.

1461
01:46:37,610 --> 01:46:42,050
Public roads that wouldn't apply to the school or sidewalks in your trail,

1462
01:46:42,870 --> 01:46:45,550
or that ten-month-old route route route route route, would apply.

1463
01:46:45,730 --> 01:46:49,110
That's mainly for pedestrian safety, it's how it's drafted.

1464
01:46:51,770 --> 01:46:55,030
But in almost six annusings park, because we have an improved trail,

1465
01:46:55,030 --> 01:47:00,350
I don't believe you'd be able to private e-bikes while also trying to

1466
01:47:00,350 --> 01:47:02,050
have a lot of traditional lives.

1467
01:47:02,710 --> 01:47:03,470
And walkers.

1468
01:47:04,510 --> 01:47:09,790
There's more people walking over there than there are kids and of course during

1469
01:47:09,790 --> 01:47:15,050
soccer season last year, a kid's face plan had to comfort you because he couldn't stop

1470
01:47:15,050 --> 01:47:19,710
his bike behind and he didn't want to hit my dog or so.

1471
01:47:19,710 --> 01:47:24,710
So maybe there are options to prohibit them all together in this image for it all.

1472
01:47:26,250 --> 01:47:32,150
I listened to Ms. Jesse talk about the kids on training wheels at the park.

1473
01:47:32,530 --> 01:47:35,830
And I didn't see it until I went out there on Saturday for a cheer thing.

1474
01:47:36,150 --> 01:47:39,750
And there was probably 30 kids on bicycle with training wheels.

1475
01:47:40,890 --> 01:47:42,450
Definitely do not want to get ribbikes.

1476
01:47:42,450 --> 01:47:47,390
I think he's doing their discretion of what's five to miles out.

1477
01:47:47,870 --> 01:47:53,390
What's bothering people, what's not, is going to be great to limit this.

1478
01:47:53,490 --> 01:47:57,790
I own an e-bike, a whole family, we've got four of them in the family, we've got a scooter,

1479
01:47:58,790 --> 01:48:05,670
but I can not disagree with getting in this restricted as we can to keep the little kids,

1480
01:48:05,770 --> 01:48:08,090
the walkers, everybody else safe in the park.

1481
01:48:08,670 --> 01:48:16,490
We can't squash bites, all we gotta do is wait to make is that Saturday we learned to run a bite, but that's a grown-in-usual punishment to have all bites in the market.

1482
01:48:18,070 --> 01:48:21,650
So, I don't expect PD to set out there with a radar gun to a year-on.

1483
01:48:22,490 --> 01:48:28,270
Tina and I have, but being more education off my daughter rides our neighborhood and her electric scooter.

1484
01:48:28,410 --> 01:48:34,090
We already implemented two months during the day to how my pet lights stay on the edge, stay on the sidewalks.

1485
01:48:34,090 --> 01:48:41,670
We've implemented that for her safety and so I think what we've implemented is a household is pretty well in here

1486
01:48:41,670 --> 01:48:49,370
She does ride any by with an adult to the park and we've discussed it getting away from people if you're going to be in there

1487
01:48:49,370 --> 01:48:56,570
Hang on the grass outside as well. So I feel like you're following what we implemented our home for everybody else's sanity

1488
01:48:56,570 --> 01:48:56,910
Thank you for

1489
01:48:59,850 --> 01:49:02,190
bringing my Jim and everyone.

1490
01:49:02,630 --> 01:49:04,670
Thank you very much.

1491
01:49:04,770 --> 01:49:08,510
Now, I'd like to say, we get a lot of advice about this.

1492
01:49:10,490 --> 01:49:11,370
Thank you.

1493
01:49:12,350 --> 01:49:13,030
That's good.

1494
01:49:14,090 --> 01:49:15,150
Now, I'll see you in the good.

1495
01:49:15,350 --> 01:49:20,150
We get a lot of complaints from residents on these scooters,

1496
01:49:20,290 --> 01:49:21,350
and we've always told them, you know,

1497
01:49:21,990 --> 01:49:22,930
there's nothing we can do.

1498
01:49:22,950 --> 01:49:24,670
We have no municipal colonel on it.

1499
01:49:25,550 --> 01:49:27,370
So I think this is a plus.

1500
01:49:27,370 --> 01:49:33,890
Like Mr. Block was saying, it's difficult for us to be out over the radar and get the speed,

1501
01:49:34,170 --> 01:49:38,550
but it also helps because city manager can test it by just when you're on 4th street

1502
01:49:38,550 --> 01:49:43,930
or 1st street and you're doing 15 in your scooter pass-in by or the side while obviously

1503
01:49:43,930 --> 01:49:47,750
they're speeding those are the times that we can actually put a moment on how to educate them.

1504
01:49:48,730 --> 01:49:53,950
So we can't be able to work but the little things that we can do will educate those

1505
01:49:53,950 --> 01:49:58,810
kids out of the parents. We could tell my daughter if she gets a fine

1506
01:49:58,810 --> 01:50:04,050
like 50 bucks a day, she stays with you to pay it off.

1507
01:50:04,190 --> 01:50:04,950
Thank you.

1508
01:50:05,770 --> 01:50:06,270
Thank you, Mr. Stein.

1509
01:50:06,330 --> 01:50:06,950
Another question?

1510
01:50:07,410 --> 01:50:08,950
Mr. Stein.

1511
01:50:11,170 --> 01:50:12,410
Hi, I'm a comment.

1512
01:50:12,690 --> 01:50:16,970
If this could only be the biggest problem we had in the society.

1513
01:50:17,910 --> 01:50:30,050
We're going to be one lucky group of people, all I'm going to use is question, my dad, and it starts at home by the way, teaching people a little bit of courtesy, common courtesy.

1514
01:50:30,710 --> 01:50:41,630
We're going to talk to the school resource officers that I talked about last week about this ordinance, and we're going to prepare a little one paper that we could have the office talk to the kids at the schools, and then send it home with a parent.

1515
01:50:41,630 --> 01:50:48,010
I already know the next three-minute speech that's going to be given by a citizen, but any time we say

1516
01:50:48,010 --> 01:50:52,150
used discretion, how come my child didn't get it? He got it so much, and they didn't.

1517
01:50:53,670 --> 01:50:56,690
So, prepare this, prepare the three-minute conversation.

1518
01:50:57,370 --> 01:51:03,230
Well, and what they want to counsel is that this, it would be good, like you said,

1519
01:51:03,310 --> 01:51:09,470
what you're going to do in educating the public, because this is local law, and lobby law,

1520
01:51:09,470 --> 01:51:12,110
No, no, no, this is theirs, so.

1521
01:51:13,690 --> 01:51:15,890
At least fire here to take the tool if you've got them

1522
01:51:15,890 --> 01:51:17,910
in the probe parts, you see a kid running down the road,

1523
01:51:18,110 --> 01:51:19,110
doing right or wrong.

1524
01:51:19,310 --> 01:51:20,510
Hey kid, I always have a conversation

1525
01:51:20,510 --> 01:51:22,530
to take this fire home, read it.

1526
01:51:23,490 --> 01:51:26,610
I mean, I do see you guys would be cool with that.

1527
01:51:27,430 --> 01:51:28,930
I'm sure it wouldn't be difficult, either,

1528
01:51:29,310 --> 01:51:31,770
to just send something to this school,

1529
01:51:31,950 --> 01:51:34,170
this dirt didn't say mass produce it.

1530
01:51:34,250 --> 01:51:38,710
I mean, everyone has some sort of email or all of those things

1531
01:51:38,710 --> 01:51:42,850
And that's kind of nipping it right at the beginning, so.

1532
01:51:44,810 --> 01:51:47,950
Just food for thought here while we're discussing this like Google

1533
01:51:47,950 --> 01:51:49,550
to speed ranges.

1534
01:51:51,150 --> 01:51:56,690
So slow jog, five miles an hour, unique specter, 20 miles an hour.

1535
01:51:57,450 --> 01:52:01,130
We do have some people that go to the park and run quite fast.

1536
01:52:03,630 --> 01:52:08,470
Plus we have white range of a sign, 10 to 20 miles an hour on a recreational

1537
01:52:08,470 --> 01:52:14,350
bike ride. So I think five maybe a little too slow. I think everybody is going to

1538
01:52:14,350 --> 01:52:20,030
see that. Wait, isn't the all can make that turn? I think 10 would probably be more.

1539
01:52:20,690 --> 01:52:29,970
You can ride 10 miles an hour to save speed on a regular bike. And then that's the same

1540
01:52:31,180 --> 01:52:40,360
And then that this is what we're running also, which is outside of this. But still, if you were trying to accommodate everyone, we're going to have a biker to run yours.

1541
01:52:41,000 --> 01:52:57,420
I mean, we'll say it's kind of hard for the mic, but yeah, in this area, I guess legally speaking is there any other way we can keep an eye on this without putting a speed limit, say, hey.

1542
01:52:58,680 --> 01:52:59,580
I agree.

1543
01:52:59,860 --> 01:53:02,740
But run over people, don't run over people.

1544
01:53:02,740 --> 01:53:05,420
I mean, don't run over people, don't run over people.

1545
01:53:07,180 --> 01:53:10,260
But that's the discretion, I mean.

1546
01:53:11,140 --> 01:53:13,940
But if they're already doing it, not to change anything.

1547
01:53:15,260 --> 01:53:17,440
If we don't have a speed limit, then it's not a force.

1548
01:53:17,680 --> 01:53:20,520
And it's only speed limit to your choice.

1549
01:53:21,020 --> 01:53:22,820
It's not the physical value of your physical value.

1550
01:53:23,960 --> 01:53:27,100
It's always sidewalks and trails of these speed limit.

1551
01:53:27,100 --> 01:53:29,980
I don't want to be across the board on every trail.

1552
01:53:31,040 --> 01:53:33,000
Yeah, so there's just a problem.

1553
01:53:33,400 --> 01:53:36,560
And as Simmons was limited to five, we still don't want to make that turn.

1554
01:53:36,740 --> 01:53:38,660
That's a simple change of where we can make it.

1555
01:53:39,000 --> 01:53:40,320
The emotional would have to be as good.

1556
01:53:40,780 --> 01:53:45,040
Yeah, and the only trails that we have would be in those systems.

1557
01:53:45,320 --> 01:53:47,220
A live-awakest public street.

1558
01:53:47,940 --> 01:53:48,360
Okay.

1559
01:53:49,620 --> 01:53:51,160
What's this feeling on that one, just for you?

1560
01:53:51,380 --> 01:53:52,280
Good morning. Information.

1561
01:53:53,260 --> 01:53:56,260
So I don't know where that sign is.

1562
01:53:57,200 --> 01:53:59,720
And you have hit up signs, speed limit on the track.

1563
01:54:00,960 --> 01:54:02,240
Wait, wait, wait, wait.

1564
01:54:02,400 --> 01:54:04,680
I just, I don't know where that sign is.

1565
01:54:05,300 --> 01:54:06,080
I don't know where that sign is.

1566
01:54:09,040 --> 01:54:11,100
Yeah, I think sign is important.

1567
01:54:11,800 --> 01:54:14,340
So if you don't have to, if you don't have an order,

1568
01:54:14,580 --> 01:54:15,860
if you don't have to do something.

1569
01:54:15,920 --> 01:54:19,940
Wait, if we said 5, 2, 10, between 5 and 10.

1570
01:54:19,940 --> 01:54:21,260
That's not it.

1571
01:54:21,340 --> 01:54:22,180
Then there's it's.

1572
01:54:22,180 --> 01:54:22,840
Oh, you can't.

1573
01:54:23,240 --> 01:54:26,160
Because it is a violation of five versus a violation of 10.

1574
01:54:26,600 --> 01:54:27,840
If you're going to do that, it's like one.

1575
01:54:27,980 --> 01:54:29,040
Not two to three, 10.

1576
01:54:29,340 --> 01:54:31,580
But if it was, it's already in there.

1577
01:54:31,720 --> 01:54:35,060
So council wanted to remove that prohibition or the five-mile car or excuse them for

1578
01:54:35,060 --> 01:54:36,040
Anderson's Park.

1579
01:54:36,360 --> 01:54:38,200
It'd be merely to strike out.

1580
01:54:38,200 --> 01:54:43,320
So it's actually B on Section 16 to 3235.

1581
01:54:44,160 --> 01:54:47,200
Because that's a specific excuse them for Anderson's Park.

1582
01:54:47,200 --> 01:54:49,820
Well, it says not to exceed, right?

1583
01:54:50,080 --> 01:54:51,680
Yeah, so that's okay.

1584
01:54:51,680 --> 01:54:53,300
You want to come?

1585
01:54:53,600 --> 01:54:54,900
Oh, public comment?

1586
01:54:57,920 --> 01:55:01,900
This is positive because of negative person, high-recarriage of it.

1587
01:55:02,040 --> 01:55:05,060
Isn't it wonderful to have a dialogue about the kids having fun?

1588
01:55:06,060 --> 01:55:06,920
Isn't it?

1589
01:55:06,920 --> 01:55:10,760
And there is not to be a clown, but I love being wrong.

1590
01:55:10,920 --> 01:55:11,960
That's what Carlos Logan is.

1591
01:55:11,980 --> 01:55:14,880
As long as everybody's right, not fix myself as point one out of that.

1592
01:55:14,880 --> 01:55:21,620
But the same is all the kids nowadays stay indoors, Xbox, play stations, they don't leave the

1593
01:55:21,620 --> 01:55:22,080
cast potatoes.

1594
01:55:22,500 --> 01:55:25,040
But we're having a wonderful dialogue about the kids being out.

1595
01:55:25,520 --> 01:55:30,960
And I have kids, yes, I have six kids, I have kids and I go to the high school and there's

1596
01:55:30,960 --> 01:55:36,440
a whole bunch of bicycles, it's crazy in a positive, rambles and smiles way.

1597
01:55:37,100 --> 01:55:41,580
It's crazy how many bicycles the kids are using, remember these are the young kids,

1598
01:55:41,820 --> 01:55:42,580
air quotes.

1599
01:55:42,580 --> 01:55:47,340
that are leading the house, all electronics that don't need their phones,

1600
01:55:47,800 --> 01:55:52,900
well they do need to go down the bikes. So that's wonderful and we need to embrace it

1601
01:55:52,900 --> 01:55:58,480
that what can we do for them to succeed? Be used to be outdoors, continue that,

1602
01:55:58,480 --> 01:56:04,720
that moment of running and absorbing the sun and being on the bicycle. Are you going to

1603
01:56:04,720 --> 01:56:09,300
be in a ride home? Daughter's done. No mom, I'm taking the bike home. Okay, if you say

1604
01:56:09,980 --> 01:56:13,780
Let them open and get home on your fancy phone, right?

1605
01:56:14,240 --> 01:56:16,240
That I really need to let you know I've got home safely.

1606
01:56:16,440 --> 01:56:21,500
So I'm just trying to say that we need to do everything we can to embrace them using the bicycles.

1607
01:56:21,940 --> 01:56:25,620
Using the e-bikes, whatever's applicable, to keep them outside.

1608
01:56:25,840 --> 01:56:27,960
Now, sit up on this, stop, food for thought.

1609
01:56:28,460 --> 01:56:33,360
To me, the biggest record of the save and I, I will leave the biggest challenge

1610
01:56:33,360 --> 01:56:37,300
and possible opportunity to fix is our sidewalks.

1611
01:56:37,300 --> 01:56:39,200
then you want to have the kids getting hurt.

1612
01:56:40,600 --> 01:56:48,480
And I'm thinking of one right now, right by a black, it looks like a ramp, right there in the

1613
01:56:48,480 --> 01:56:48,760
wheels.

1614
01:56:49,400 --> 01:56:52,160
And I'm not the even negative person, I'm just saying process improvement.

1615
01:56:53,080 --> 01:56:58,700
So I believe the challenges in our children, yes, regardless of kids, and on e-bikes and

1616
01:56:58,700 --> 01:57:03,740
on bicycles, and go to the park, oh, shame on the kiddies, go to the park, go to live

1617
01:57:03,740 --> 01:57:09,540
our whole savings or whatever, but I think fixing the roads for them to be safe and then

1618
01:57:09,540 --> 01:57:14,060
they can go all over our wonderful city on our public sidewalls and on zip-ups.

1619
01:57:15,060 --> 01:57:15,220
Thank you.

1620
01:57:15,320 --> 01:57:19,420
Thank you back on that statement because we must have read my mind because that's exactly what

1621
01:57:19,420 --> 01:57:20,060
I'm going to say.

1622
01:57:20,260 --> 01:57:28,220
I hope this Council has the same energetic and discussion and staff presents to us how

1623
01:57:28,220 --> 01:57:30,440
to bring our sidewalk here.

1624
01:57:30,640 --> 01:57:31,360
Let me say it earlier.

1625
01:57:31,540 --> 01:57:34,260
Bring our sidewalks back to this city.

1626
01:57:34,560 --> 01:57:38,180
Give them the safe way and including our elderly

1627
01:57:38,180 --> 01:57:41,480
that's walking, and they walk down the sidewalks,

1628
01:57:41,480 --> 01:57:44,900
and I'm trying to do that comment

1629
01:57:44,900 --> 01:57:47,740
that they don't have to walk and stumble sideways

1630
01:57:47,740 --> 01:57:49,640
and underbikes the wheels get caught

1631
01:57:49,640 --> 01:57:51,240
in the cracks of the streets.

1632
01:57:51,700 --> 01:57:55,120
That's where our emphasis should be for me personally.

1633
01:57:55,120 --> 01:58:04,120
And putting up speed limit signs at a park, because if you have an ordinance, because we

1634
01:58:04,120 --> 01:58:10,220
have said many times that this very council, there's no sense to be in here, I'll exclude

1635
01:58:10,220 --> 01:58:11,440
the new ones.

1636
01:58:12,600 --> 01:58:17,340
But even I've said, why have an ordinance if you're not prepared to enforce the ordinance?

1637
01:58:18,180 --> 01:58:23,580
Because these throw that in to what I said earlier, mark my word, somebody's going to get

1638
01:58:23,580 --> 01:58:45,020
or a warning, or however it's going to be enforced, and then somebody else is not going to, I pray, I hope, hope to God that we could put an emphasis on, of course, old school, times of change to guess, back to the home life educating your kids on mutual respect for others.

1639
01:58:45,760 --> 01:58:50,580
Thank you. But we've got to provide in the tools by which to safely get to the park.

1640
01:58:50,580 --> 01:58:52,120
Thank you.

1641
01:58:52,600 --> 01:58:55,000
One further question for your chief.

1642
01:58:55,320 --> 01:59:01,600
I noticed I walk at the park pretty regularly, but we have a tower system there.

1643
01:59:01,780 --> 01:59:02,980
Is that monitoring speed?

1644
01:59:03,400 --> 01:59:03,940
No, sir.

1645
01:59:04,200 --> 01:59:05,660
I'm going to strip the board of cameras.

1646
01:59:06,140 --> 01:59:06,740
Could they're up?

1647
01:59:06,960 --> 01:59:08,440
I'm going to use it that mobile for now.

1648
01:59:09,080 --> 01:59:09,100
Okay.

1649
01:59:09,420 --> 01:59:10,860
Why don't we add a flock camera?

1650
01:59:11,300 --> 01:59:11,580
Ha ha.

1651
01:59:12,580 --> 01:59:13,220
That's the idea.

1652
01:59:13,300 --> 01:59:14,520
The idea at the end of the topic.

1653
01:59:14,980 --> 01:59:16,460
I've prepared for the next one.

1654
01:59:16,980 --> 01:59:18,480
I think I'm ready to make a motion.

1655
01:59:19,300 --> 01:59:24,600
to pass this to a second reading with the amendment of 10 miles an hour at the park, that seems

1656
01:59:24,600 --> 01:59:25,460
way more realistic.

1657
01:59:28,540 --> 01:59:35,660
And so we could do up some restructuring such and be up 62-25, such and

1658
01:59:35,660 --> 01:59:39,300
V-62-235, straight.

1659
01:59:41,660 --> 01:59:45,320
Okay. So it's a third by that though. Does that mean we're going to put

1660
01:59:45,320 --> 01:59:52,800
but speed limit signs at the park? What does that mean? Well, we already have a big

1661
01:59:52,800 --> 01:59:59,800
after your pump, there are already restriction signs later. Can I have a question?

1662
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:04,620
I think somewhere in the park, I don't know where it is anymore. We have a whole list of rules.

1663
02:00:05,320 --> 02:00:11,880
Well, when you ask, well, but then it would always, that is the rules that are in the live home.

1664
02:00:12,180 --> 02:00:15,260
And which the T and violence narrative does not apply.

1665
02:00:16,780 --> 02:00:20,640
And we're going to place that on the side walls in a mile per hour.

1666
02:00:22,460 --> 02:00:24,240
So, we're going to go back to our degree.

1667
02:00:24,440 --> 02:00:25,500
I don't think you got it.

1668
02:00:25,600 --> 02:00:26,660
Additional signages.

1669
02:00:27,380 --> 02:00:28,840
You're going to start from your motion.

1670
02:00:29,280 --> 02:00:29,780
Just back down.

1671
02:00:29,960 --> 02:00:30,780
There's more clarification.

1672
02:00:30,980 --> 02:00:33,780
The time off for hour plus the sidewalks, the trail.

1673
02:00:34,400 --> 02:00:34,700
The second.

1674
02:00:35,020 --> 02:00:36,700
Whether or not someone's parking or not.

1675
02:00:38,900 --> 02:00:41,220
How does that stop with your event with your children?

1676
02:00:41,900 --> 02:00:42,640
Got it.

1677
02:01:05,100 --> 02:01:09,380
I think you added to the sign that's already there. You're already complacent. Let's be real

1678
02:01:09,380 --> 02:01:12,880
you read the sign if you go to the park every day, you're not reading the sign to look

1679
02:01:12,880 --> 02:01:14,100
on the day or the day or the day.

1680
02:01:14,280 --> 02:01:15,540
It's such a good for this.

1681
02:01:15,820 --> 02:01:16,540
Yeah, such a thing.

1682
02:01:16,780 --> 02:01:22,120
I've been saying just a joke about the series how do you paint a 10MPH on the trail every

1683
02:01:22,120 --> 02:01:27,400
now and again, or you're randomly on a side walk and that may be the most responsive way

1684
02:01:27,400 --> 02:01:30,940
for people to see it as you're writing and you passed over a 10MPH.

1685
02:01:31,000 --> 02:01:31,600
Sorry, Gary.

1686
02:01:34,740 --> 02:01:38,580
And the entry is ways to the city.

1687
02:01:39,560 --> 02:01:44,860
We can also post as several cities have done is posted,

1688
02:01:45,160 --> 02:01:46,860
20 miles down from the city.

1689
02:01:47,800 --> 02:01:49,040
And it's a general statement.

1690
02:01:50,600 --> 02:01:53,560
But we will make sure this is the third floor.

1691
02:01:56,200 --> 02:01:57,440
And we have a motion in the second.

1692
02:01:57,680 --> 02:01:58,500
On the floor.

1693
02:01:58,680 --> 02:01:59,240
Who's next?

1694
02:01:59,540 --> 02:02:00,200
Everybody's still good.

1695
02:02:00,200 --> 02:02:00,620
Jim.

1696
02:02:01,140 --> 02:02:03,440
Are you ready still live with that motion?

1697
02:02:05,160 --> 02:02:06,980
I think, they're not there, you're too good.

1698
02:02:07,300 --> 02:02:07,860
Part of it.

1699
02:02:08,420 --> 02:02:11,200
Can you make one check and that, and that'll, of course.

1700
02:02:11,900 --> 02:02:15,280
We can allow both of you down and walk away and track five, five, five.

1701
02:02:15,460 --> 02:02:16,240
So, you know what?

1702
02:02:16,560 --> 02:02:17,920
Do you say we're 5, you know?

1703
02:02:18,040 --> 02:02:19,900
Put down your request to the agenda.

1704
02:02:20,160 --> 02:02:21,960
Yeah, that's where they're supposed to be.

1705
02:02:23,180 --> 02:02:23,420
Okay.

1706
02:02:24,200 --> 02:02:24,600
Any questions?

1707
02:02:24,900 --> 02:02:28,180
I'd love to see you right now, Jim.

1708
02:02:28,560 --> 02:02:29,480
I can't do anything.

1709
02:02:29,820 --> 02:02:30,660
Offers of both.

1710
02:02:31,140 --> 02:02:31,460
Offers of both.

1711
02:02:31,460 --> 02:02:33,140
Open the book.

1712
02:02:33,400 --> 02:02:34,000
I like it.

1713
02:02:34,620 --> 02:02:37,400
I can't wait to see my daughter race in the police department.

1714
02:02:38,800 --> 02:02:39,400
I'm just personally.

1715
02:02:41,440 --> 02:02:42,200
I'm just first.

1716
02:02:42,880 --> 02:02:43,260
I like it.

1717
02:02:43,720 --> 02:02:44,740
I like it.

1718
02:02:44,740 --> 02:02:44,780
I like it.

1719
02:02:47,540 --> 02:02:48,460
Motion carries.

1720
02:02:53,320 --> 02:02:53,760
All right.

1721
02:02:54,200 --> 02:02:55,940
Now we go back to you.

1722
02:02:56,420 --> 02:02:56,820
All right.

1723
02:02:56,820 --> 02:02:56,960
All right.

1724
02:02:56,960 --> 02:02:57,420
I'm 12.

1725
02:03:01,540 --> 02:03:04,280
Discussion consideration and possible action regarding

1726
02:03:04,280 --> 02:03:07,520
Block automated license plate reader systems.

1727
02:03:12,890 --> 02:03:19,890
I have been here for 10 years, but I think it has been absurd to me about this.

1728
02:03:20,990 --> 02:03:23,830
Nobody wants it, nobody likes it.

1729
02:03:23,990 --> 02:03:25,290
Jim Key's up a little water.

1730
02:03:25,870 --> 02:03:28,970
I said, no, I've got nothing good to say about this.

1731
02:03:29,950 --> 02:03:32,890
I'm going to get beat up every day, but I never think about it.

1732
02:03:32,890 --> 02:03:41,090
It stands in a page in privacy and needs to be gone and don't I got to say they want me to go

1733
02:03:41,090 --> 02:03:42,910
on it and there will be no doubt in the board.

1734
02:03:44,010 --> 02:03:47,290
Now I suggest that we get the manager's input on this.

1735
02:03:47,290 --> 02:03:48,370
It's still a tape.

1736
02:03:48,730 --> 02:03:49,630
I'd like to make it a little.

1737
02:03:50,050 --> 02:03:50,530
Yes, sir.

1738
02:03:50,950 --> 02:03:52,350
All right.

1739
02:03:52,810 --> 02:03:59,890
So this was placed on the agenda after there was a request because of the block I made last

1740
02:03:59,890 --> 02:04:04,590
like Reader. When you look at the documentation that's presented and the pack that this is

1741
02:04:04,590 --> 02:04:10,770
the grant through the state, that for the front office of the government public safety office,

1742
02:04:11,250 --> 02:04:19,350
and it was a project that was for just a year 2025. The resolution was adopted to apply for the

1743
02:04:19,350 --> 02:04:29,130
grant to grant was funded. We're October 1 of 2024. The grant allowed for the six block cameras

1744
02:04:29,130 --> 02:04:33,710
There's a very slow patience throughout the city of Mingle side and we do have the listing

1745
02:04:33,710 --> 02:04:42,190
of where the flop cameras are and please note that only one of them is on city property.

1746
02:04:42,590 --> 02:04:44,930
Everything else is located on state property.

1747
02:04:45,350 --> 02:04:55,170
That was working with the state of the VPS and also the state agency that funded this.

1748
02:04:55,890 --> 02:05:04,030
So, this was funded, so he did fund, paid an invoice of $12,000 for a 12-month subscription,

1749
02:05:04,810 --> 02:05:09,130
covering from October 1, 2025 to September 30, 26.

1750
02:05:09,690 --> 02:05:14,430
That was a discount right because the type factor of getting the flop cameras in.

1751
02:05:15,170 --> 02:05:23,330
We are under contract with the flop for a more year at cost of $18,000.

1752
02:05:23,330 --> 02:05:26,710
the development,

1753
02:05:29,350 --> 02:05:34,970
but this is an item that can be considered by the council. It has been

1754
02:05:34,970 --> 02:05:41,130
a legally budgeted for last year. It is included in this year's budget and we're opening

1755
02:05:41,130 --> 02:05:42,550
for questions now.

1756
02:05:42,910 --> 02:05:49,150
I'm talking to start. I brought this up. I've been very, very conflict with. My daughter got

1757
02:05:49,150 --> 02:05:52,650
I hope we had 65 or 12 cameras in 10 minutes.

1758
02:05:53,530 --> 02:05:56,170
I've listened to the Fourth Amendment violation

1759
02:05:56,170 --> 02:05:59,810
possibility of it, and I've researched the best of my ability.

1760
02:06:00,910 --> 02:06:02,910
And the more I'm seeing on the legal standpoint,

1761
02:06:03,330 --> 02:06:06,910
there are one great fine line for processing that.

1762
02:06:07,130 --> 02:06:08,010
If they haven't already,

1763
02:06:11,140 --> 02:06:11,980
I feel there.

1764
02:06:12,680 --> 02:06:14,820
It started as a phenomenal idea.

1765
02:06:15,720 --> 02:06:19,800
It has been used and abused and turned into way more

1766
02:06:19,800 --> 02:06:20,620
than it should have been.

1767
02:06:20,620 --> 02:06:28,100
And I believe that everything that I've gotten back from citizens' comments and scrolling through Facebook,

1768
02:06:29,560 --> 02:06:36,900
by the 99.8% of people are interested in this point, and I feel that I understand why.

1769
02:06:39,580 --> 02:06:43,660
And I've started completely, and I still have a little bit of a conclusion that,

1770
02:06:43,660 --> 02:06:48,140
Like I said, my child got kidnapped, I was over a million, but I looked at the inside.

1771
02:06:48,240 --> 02:06:51,300
If we go into the COVID situation, I'd go to San Antonio every Saturday.

1772
02:06:51,620 --> 02:06:54,200
Now it's the lead worker, and I'm not going to have a pop-up in my door.

1773
02:06:54,260 --> 02:06:58,900
I said, you left your house and that's the level that Quap has gotten into.

1774
02:06:59,060 --> 02:07:02,900
It's not the eye-trusting, we'll side PD to not run my place and stop me.

1775
02:07:03,080 --> 02:07:10,740
I have to know that a Washington ran my place at this point, it's too broad, it's been to have used,

1776
02:07:10,740 --> 02:07:15,780
started I think phenomenally and I believe personally it's got to a point of abuse and

1777
02:07:30,000 --> 02:07:39,880
This was found to cross this fine, fine, great line that they haven't crossed as of the last law legal thing that I've sought in June come through.

1778
02:07:40,220 --> 02:07:42,660
We're opening ourselves up for a minute.

1779
02:07:44,750 --> 02:07:46,830
That's my take on at this far.

1780
02:07:46,830 --> 02:07:47,370
That's good,

1781
02:07:52,350 --> 02:07:53,670
isn't it?

1782
02:07:54,570 --> 02:07:55,670
Are they packable?

1783
02:07:56,890 --> 02:07:57,830
That's my destiny.

1784
02:07:59,150 --> 02:08:04,150
Can they be met by other entities and be used for the various things?

1785
02:08:05,130 --> 02:08:08,110
What was presented to us by the flock?

1786
02:08:08,990 --> 02:08:13,650
Representative was that the dad is owned by the city of England side.

1787
02:08:20,170 --> 02:08:21,690
And that...

1788
02:08:22,470 --> 02:08:30,550
If anything, if the city decided to go ahead and cancel the contract with law, that data can be erased.

1789
02:08:32,050 --> 02:08:36,930
And I will have to purchase that, but it is that even though it can be deleted,

1790
02:08:37,190 --> 02:08:43,090
we have to go into a question about number one is the public information act,

1791
02:08:43,410 --> 02:08:46,470
because you can't just race data that the city has.

1792
02:08:49,030 --> 02:08:56,990
And then also even that as we all know, anybody's got your, well, anybody's got a laptop,

1793
02:08:57,290 --> 02:08:58,230
anything else to computer.

1794
02:08:58,910 --> 02:09:01,930
It's embedded in there somewhere on the hard drive.

1795
02:09:02,390 --> 02:09:08,010
It's, I can go in here and say, okay, I want to take off my email from my personal computer.

1796
02:09:08,130 --> 02:09:09,730
It is embedded somewhere.

1797
02:09:10,970 --> 02:09:12,530
And it can be, I love it.

1798
02:09:14,450 --> 02:09:20,010
But it is, the data is the property of the city of Inglesides.

1799
02:09:20,390 --> 02:09:24,670
I can't say how if it could be hacked, not because everything's happening.

1800
02:09:30,800 --> 02:09:32,020
I'm interested in that, sorry.

1801
02:09:33,060 --> 02:09:35,460
I'm also very familiar with it on this.

1802
02:09:36,300 --> 02:09:43,440
My mind response is literally almost exactly like victors, if something were to happen to

1803
02:09:43,440 --> 02:09:50,140
child and I would hope that they're somehow, you know, going well, you don't know

1804
02:09:50,140 --> 02:10:01,140
what I'm having. But so just out of ignorance, what is the purpose of you informing us

1805
02:10:01,140 --> 02:10:04,040
that they're on state property versus city property?

1806
02:10:05,200 --> 02:10:15,240
That is because if the city decided to end the agreement with law, the state could continue

1807
02:10:15,240 --> 02:10:18,920
it all on state properly within the city.

1808
02:10:20,240 --> 02:10:31,420
And if the state is so right now, the state has no access to those cameras that are on

1809
02:10:31,420 --> 02:10:32,060
there.

1810
02:10:32,060 --> 02:10:36,300
They have access to the ones that they have locate on state housing.

1811
02:10:37,580 --> 02:10:40,500
But the five that you said that we have...

1812
02:10:40,500 --> 02:10:42,660
That is the city of being a side stand.

1813
02:10:44,760 --> 02:10:46,120
But on state property.

1814
02:10:46,680 --> 02:10:48,420
But on state property, yes.

1815
02:10:49,180 --> 02:10:52,080
So essentially what you're saying is, if we...

1816
02:10:52,080 --> 02:10:54,880
So that's why we paid for all of the cameras.

1817
02:10:55,140 --> 02:10:57,500
We paid for the six cameras.

1818
02:10:58,440 --> 02:11:05,120
And it was with an agreement through the site that they would be located there at the city's

1819
02:11:05,120 --> 02:11:11,760
cost because it was a grant that was the grant was funded that we incurred the next two years.

1820
02:11:13,580 --> 02:11:15,700
So we have another year no matter what?

1821
02:11:16,440 --> 02:11:25,540
Well, and since that has not been researched by the attorney but we are the grant was from for two years with funding through

1822
02:11:25,540 --> 02:11:27,540
What is that?

1823
02:11:28,300 --> 02:11:34,600
Yeah, and that is in the contractor or what it entails if there is an inclination to terminate.

1824
02:11:35,440 --> 02:11:41,560
I would like to review that agreement first and be able to advise you all on how to go about it.

1825
02:11:42,660 --> 02:11:50,540
Well, so essentially, not trying to be really, but essentially, we're pretty much having this conversation for...

1826
02:11:50,540 --> 02:11:51,320
What?

1827
02:11:52,040 --> 02:11:53,340
And, what is it?

1828
02:11:53,500 --> 02:11:53,680
No, no.

1829
02:11:54,460 --> 02:11:55,020
The direction.

1830
02:11:56,200 --> 02:12:02,700
And I wrote a topic, speaking with the floor representative, even at the city, canceled

1831
02:12:02,700 --> 02:12:04,700
is what their statement was.

1832
02:12:05,160 --> 02:12:10,860
canceled their subscription to the campus because of the illegal obligation, which that's

1833
02:12:10,860 --> 02:12:15,180
why the attorney would have to look at that, is that we would still be legally bound

1834
02:12:15,180 --> 02:12:16,680
for the $18,000.

1835
02:12:19,040 --> 02:12:22,860
But this attorney has a chance to see the degree which is.

1836
02:12:23,140 --> 02:12:27,240
Okay, so as of right now, we're going to pay another year no matter what.

1837
02:12:27,540 --> 02:12:27,680
Right?

1838
02:12:27,940 --> 02:12:28,940
We don't know.

1839
02:12:30,040 --> 02:12:30,120
Okay.

1840
02:12:30,960 --> 02:12:33,640
So, according to block, yes, but you're not sure.

1841
02:12:34,000 --> 02:12:34,900
Well, I'm not too angry.

1842
02:12:35,440 --> 02:12:39,200
Before you all do this, I'd like to look at it and see what issues may come about.

1843
02:12:40,840 --> 02:12:41,300
Okay.

1844
02:12:41,300 --> 02:12:50,620
Okay, I actually would also think that it would be important for the police chief to tell us how this benefits you.

1845
02:12:50,620 --> 02:12:52,220
Or does it?

1846
02:12:52,260 --> 02:12:53,000
On that episode.

1847
02:12:53,520 --> 02:12:55,300
Well, there are benefits you or it doesn't.

1848
02:12:55,600 --> 02:13:00,240
How is your stance, I guess on it?

1849
02:13:00,740 --> 02:13:02,860
Well, it's a tool for law enforcement.

1850
02:13:03,200 --> 02:13:04,880
We had great success with it.

1851
02:13:04,880 --> 02:13:09,300
that shooting suspects that we call because of LPR.

1852
02:13:09,560 --> 02:13:10,540
Actually, we did get my data,

1853
02:13:10,800 --> 02:13:12,280
but that's the first one we ever encountered

1854
02:13:12,840 --> 02:13:15,280
was a massive past kind of that LPR.

1855
02:13:15,660 --> 02:13:18,220
We actually got a good drive by shooting to the nickel side.

1856
02:13:18,700 --> 02:13:19,900
All we knew was a black car,

1857
02:13:20,000 --> 02:13:22,120
and he said it went towards the rents as past, we call.

1858
02:13:22,680 --> 02:13:26,700
The chief, he went black cars, condition, LPR.

1859
02:13:26,820 --> 02:13:28,720
They said, yeah, we got a black car, Victoria,

1860
02:13:29,420 --> 02:13:31,940
that came through there, just tying,

1861
02:13:32,700 --> 02:13:33,840
get us a license plate number,

1862
02:13:34,560 --> 02:13:39,080
Sure enough, but I started looking around and caught that car because of the, we knew what

1863
02:13:39,080 --> 02:13:43,420
type of was, and the thing that we caught it on, to go to them for street or whatever,

1864
02:13:43,580 --> 02:13:44,500
we made the effort into.

1865
02:13:44,620 --> 02:13:51,420
The guy didn't like the prison all over that, but that, we had, I know, the gentleman said

1866
02:13:51,420 --> 02:13:58,000
in Tokyo, that we actually did a couple of weeks ago, our LPR had that vehicle, because it was

1867
02:13:58,000 --> 02:14:04,360
And the database, they missing the endangered senior citizen of Florida to silver under.

1868
02:14:04,900 --> 02:14:07,120
So we make that stop.

1869
02:14:07,220 --> 02:14:08,280
We got him back to the family.

1870
02:14:08,960 --> 02:14:10,660
We had another woman from Mexico side.

1871
02:14:11,280 --> 02:14:11,800
They had it.

1872
02:14:11,860 --> 02:14:14,280
And that doesn't also, she was wandering around in a car.

1873
02:14:14,860 --> 02:14:17,480
We tracked out a lot all the way to Louisiana.

1874
02:14:17,800 --> 02:14:20,500
We called the State Police and we the other the gutter.

1875
02:14:20,720 --> 02:14:21,600
They stopped.

1876
02:14:21,900 --> 02:14:24,120
It started monitoring on the cameras, like I said,

1877
02:14:24,120 --> 02:14:29,060
that people's estimations that they're going by any time they hit a camera,

1878
02:14:29,800 --> 02:14:32,700
made the star got her back to her family here and we go side.

1879
02:14:33,400 --> 02:14:37,040
Last week we had a done port is being pulled as deep a stone and we go side.

1880
02:14:37,640 --> 02:14:43,320
We are back to a flat camera hit on the camera between port and a purpose.

1881
02:14:43,780 --> 02:14:45,360
A purpose basically was not a buy.

1882
02:14:45,500 --> 02:14:47,280
They got that vehicle in purpose.

1883
02:14:48,580 --> 02:14:52,860
There's a lot of success but I'm also considerate of the concerns that the citizens have.

1884
02:14:53,380 --> 02:14:59,960
So, if that's a great tool, we love it. If the set is going to want it, we'll keep doing police work. I'm going to be all I'm going to do with that.

1885
02:15:01,710 --> 02:15:09,850
In your opinion, do you feel like it benefits that the benefits outweigh the cons, I guess?

1886
02:15:10,190 --> 02:15:11,590
Well, as a police officer,

1887
02:15:14,150 --> 02:15:17,850
and with responsibility of solving the crimes, yes.

1888
02:15:18,550 --> 02:15:28,850
Like I said, I don't live in the legal side, but I've seen all the comments and everything going on in social media about the bad side of it.

1889
02:15:28,850 --> 02:15:37,910
like that. My opinion is that if y'all turn into contract, what's you doing a job? We'll do our best to solve the crimes and move forward.

1890
02:15:42,880 --> 02:15:44,700
I mean, there's a reason why I'll set a chance to speak.

1891
02:15:45,000 --> 02:15:45,820
I'm sorry.

1892
02:15:46,240 --> 02:15:47,540
I think I'm good.

1893
02:15:48,820 --> 02:15:49,680
I have a lot of time.

1894
02:15:50,080 --> 02:15:51,320
I've been home work.

1895
02:15:51,780 --> 02:15:52,800
I agree.

1896
02:15:54,280 --> 02:15:54,500
It's, uh,

1897
02:15:55,360 --> 02:15:57,100
Victor, I,

1898
02:15:57,200 --> 02:16:00,480
originally was very, very torn on this one.

1899
02:16:01,300 --> 02:16:09,140
The original purpose of the OPRs was really the original purpose was to aid the law enforcement.

1900
02:16:10,420 --> 02:16:12,540
That was the original purpose, main purpose.

1901
02:16:12,580 --> 02:16:21,320
That's where it was presented by a third party, private, third party for profit company.

1902
02:16:23,120 --> 02:16:24,400
I don't want to hear it by the way.

1903
02:16:24,460 --> 02:16:25,620
Let me just do something.

1904
02:16:25,720 --> 02:16:27,400
And I told the manager, I may do it.

1905
02:16:27,400 --> 02:16:30,200
But I'm going to stay here and do it.

1906
02:16:31,720 --> 02:16:32,900
We all got an email.

1907
02:16:34,500 --> 02:16:36,500
We all got an email from a flock representative.

1908
02:16:36,680 --> 02:16:39,120
First of all, I'm going to ask this only to record it.

1909
02:16:39,220 --> 02:16:42,780
Any member of this staff contact them and ask them to send that email.

1910
02:16:44,700 --> 02:16:44,900
No.

1911
02:16:45,220 --> 02:16:46,900
They call me this morning.

1912
02:16:46,900 --> 02:16:48,680
How did they know it was on our agenda?

1913
02:16:49,780 --> 02:16:53,400
The word for the person who called me said a birdie told me.

1914
02:16:53,440 --> 02:16:54,560
That's what he told me.

1915
02:16:54,560 --> 02:16:59,560
So if you look at our agenda, that's what you, I'm telling you, that's what you're telling me.

1916
02:17:00,100 --> 02:17:01,720
Okay, and then that's all I just want to give you.

1917
02:17:01,900 --> 02:17:04,980
And if you don't stop the agenda, we're on the call one I'm about to do.

1918
02:17:05,620 --> 02:17:08,080
Because I know they're watching this meeting right now.

1919
02:17:08,400 --> 02:17:09,860
Okay. I'm sure they are.

1920
02:17:10,960 --> 02:17:12,180
You, I think we know all this respect.

1921
02:17:12,640 --> 02:17:13,880
They've got to represent it.

1922
02:17:14,020 --> 02:17:14,820
Oh, hello, flock.

1923
02:17:14,860 --> 02:17:15,640
My name is Kelts.

1924
02:17:15,680 --> 02:17:16,920
Remember Steve Diel.

1925
02:17:17,160 --> 02:17:18,180
No one will need a little bit.

1926
02:17:18,500 --> 02:17:18,800
Heck no.

1927
02:17:20,040 --> 02:17:22,680
Don't waste your time sending me any mail.

1928
02:17:23,540 --> 02:17:29,460
I won't respond at all. I won't support it. The more I look into this, I am technical.

1929
02:17:29,840 --> 02:17:39,060
I heard somebody ask, can it be hacked into it? There is none in the electronic piece of device today and today's technology that involves networking and computers that cannot be hacked.

1930
02:17:40,600 --> 02:17:45,600
So there was the privacy. Just like Ricardo, I spent time in the military.

1931
02:17:45,600 --> 02:17:53,740
twenty-three years of my life to ensure that we have the private we have rights we do have

1932
02:17:53,740 --> 02:18:00,780
privacy. If it were just used for law enforcement and I agree that if it was my

1933
02:18:00,780 --> 02:18:07,740
grandchild I want that vehicle stopped and that grandchild but unfortunately it's not a perfect

1934
02:18:07,740 --> 02:18:14,920
real we live in today. Unfortunately there are people and I did my homework the technology

1935
02:18:14,920 --> 02:18:20,520
of the flock. This business that they only read, licensed hatched, that's absurd, that's not true.

1936
02:18:21,700 --> 02:18:27,800
The technology they are constantly offering more services with their cameras. Read it,

1937
02:18:27,960 --> 02:18:34,460
look it up, do your own homework. That's called technology. And in the world of monitoring,

1938
02:18:34,460 --> 02:18:41,180
Now, one of them about to say, I'm not, nobody watching, including

1939
02:18:41,180 --> 02:18:47,000
fluff, should take this to me, I support one way or the other on immigration.

1940
02:18:48,500 --> 02:18:49,820
But they even have a contract,

1941
02:18:51,960 --> 02:18:54,580
they even share with ICE and immigration.

1942
02:18:57,060 --> 02:19:00,400
And again, I'm not stating what my opinion of that is.

1943
02:19:00,400 --> 02:19:09,640
So, there's no reality for you to check, I read a real word that an H-O-A, and H-O-A can

1944
02:19:10,520 --> 02:19:15,000
search, remember the word subscription, subscription,

1945
02:19:17,120 --> 02:19:18,300
and we're going to talk about the

1946
02:19:18,300 --> 02:19:19,620
contract here in a minute.

1947
02:19:20,220 --> 02:19:22,800
Now that I got, did anybody get a copy of this?

1948
02:19:26,510 --> 02:19:31,310
What I have now had in my hand is my vocabulary to me.

1949
02:19:33,010 --> 02:19:36,710
is, and I hope we don't shame on us.

1950
02:19:38,480 --> 02:19:41,500
That's what we would wear to be beside shame on us.

1951
02:19:42,000 --> 02:19:45,680
How in God's name I'm talking about, not in a few citizens.

1952
02:19:46,140 --> 02:19:48,120
I'm telling that the people should enter into contracts.

1953
02:19:49,120 --> 02:19:52,660
How in God's name do we enter into a contract?

1954
02:19:53,640 --> 02:19:54,880
We don't own those cameras.

1955
02:19:56,460 --> 02:20:00,200
We subscribe to a service, correct, correct.

1956
02:20:00,380 --> 02:20:02,580
We don't need, I thought, we own the five cameras.

1957
02:20:02,580 --> 02:20:07,720
I thought we could take him down. That's not true. That's not true now. That's right.

1958
02:20:08,480 --> 02:20:14,100
And as far as dad being erased, I'm computer. I am technical.

1959
02:20:15,260 --> 02:20:21,000
I hear this all over. That is not there. It takes a word to get it.

1960
02:20:21,240 --> 02:20:28,020
There's anybody not watched the news on federal courts. I hear cell phones.

1961
02:20:28,020 --> 02:20:33,700
would be in tract. Yes, if we were we go ourselves on this constantly paying it. Just because

1962
02:20:33,700 --> 02:20:41,320
you turn your phone off, you're not safe, but you know what's different. It takes a work to get that

1963
02:20:41,320 --> 02:20:49,820
information. And the case has to be made for that specific case. One of them I'm about to say and show

1964
02:20:49,820 --> 02:20:56,580
it is not indebted upon our police department. I'm not saying we have anybody's abuse. But you want

1965
02:20:56,580 --> 02:21:01,580
talk about law enforcement, do your homework folks, and in addition to the ones that

1966
02:21:01,580 --> 02:21:10,880
Ricardo brought up, I've got to hear too innocent people being searched as murders,

1967
02:21:13,400 --> 02:21:14,080
being

1968
02:21:14,080 --> 02:21:18,440
searched as murders. I hadn't even thought about flock cameras. I just have to hear the

1969
02:21:18,440 --> 02:21:23,420
focus now, and now I have to see a little black pole, a little camera everywhere.

1970
02:21:25,870 --> 02:21:26,310
And what

1971
02:21:26,310 --> 02:21:33,430
What is we about this is how in God's name did we go into a contract with no way act?

1972
02:21:35,310 --> 02:21:39,050
And as far as we can take action tonight, absolutely we can take action.

1973
02:21:39,190 --> 02:21:42,090
I don't really need to wait on the attorney to tell me.

1974
02:21:42,410 --> 02:21:45,610
What the attorney's gonna say is one of the LAT $1,000 or not.

1975
02:21:46,890 --> 02:21:47,710
That's all.

1976
02:21:49,130 --> 02:21:51,790
I could care less about anything else.

1977
02:21:52,570 --> 02:21:57,110
Because I'm going to vehemently vote, and I suspect somebody's going to make the motion,

1978
02:21:57,650 --> 02:22:05,130
and let me tell you, if I could vote 28 times on this thing, it's an invasion with potential,

1979
02:22:05,530 --> 02:22:12,550
and that's the key right there. It's the potential for an invasion of privacy. Somebody will descend

1980
02:22:12,550 --> 02:22:17,510
in Ontario and mistakenly, they get it, kiddo in some, and now every motion there is made,

1981
02:22:30,000 --> 02:22:37,160
I'm going to get you out. I've been able to save some of the old Harbor Bridge. And I can get you a good ghost count of souvenirs.

1982
02:22:39,960 --> 02:22:48,740
Remember, flock. It's a company. It's a third party company that's getting hit in country-wide nationwide.

1983
02:22:49,280 --> 02:22:54,760
It's not in the Republican. It's not a Democrat. They're bipartisan. Outcry on this.

1984
02:22:54,760 --> 02:23:09,580
The reason I'm going to vote to get rid of this contract, do our part to send the message to our state legislators because there's a blow, we throw the state legislative to put restrictions on this.

1985
02:23:10,020 --> 02:23:15,080
It's open day, and then we want to say we've lived in a H-O-A.

1986
02:23:15,760 --> 02:23:19,040
We tell you, you go to trust them, we may own the data.

1987
02:23:20,420 --> 02:23:25,860
We don't even know who's in that HOA office that's mad at John E. Joe and Sally Sue, and they

1988
02:23:25,860 --> 02:23:29,700
want to get liberty and say, there's only Joe cheating on Sally Sue.

1989
02:23:31,650 --> 02:23:36,170
Let's run a track on them. Let's see where they're going. I don't trust anybody with

1990
02:23:36,170 --> 02:23:42,010
my privacy. And I don't expect any. And this is where we are not supposed to be politicians.

1991
02:23:43,090 --> 02:23:49,070
We're supposed to be representatives of our people. And no matter how many may or may not feel

1992
02:23:49,070 --> 02:23:57,570
emotionally about this, we're supposed to represent ourselves and is sitting up here. It's

1993
02:23:57,570 --> 02:24:05,410
hard, it's hard to distinguish between us sometimes. But I like the council members. I

1994
02:24:05,410 --> 02:24:10,950
can't go into H U B because I've been around here so long that people know my phone number,

1995
02:24:10,970 --> 02:24:13,190
I've been in need of.

1996
02:24:15,240 --> 02:24:18,080
And by the way, I went back to the meeting in which it happened.

1997
02:24:19,650 --> 02:24:22,390
None of this was mentioned at that meeting.

1998
02:24:23,190 --> 02:24:29,270
He was presented as an LPR only, because nobody fought, and you know what?

1999
02:24:30,010 --> 02:24:30,930
Nice self-inclusive.

2000
02:24:31,070 --> 02:24:33,890
That's why we need any time we approve something.

2001
02:24:34,490 --> 02:24:39,010
We need to make sure we understand all the ramifications to the best that we can.

2002
02:24:39,750 --> 02:24:42,390
And in this day and time, it's about privacy.

2003
02:24:43,330 --> 02:24:48,990
I don't want to know that the city manager went to San Antonio to apply to be a city manager.

2004
02:24:49,810 --> 02:24:54,710
I'm not saying that joke, of course he's not doing that, because I check this walk.

2005
02:25:00,590 --> 02:25:06,650
But the whole thing is, and I'm going to join you, and I'd think out of fairness,

2006
02:25:07,050 --> 02:25:12,710
I would like to hear at this time the person that had the nerve that got the foresight

2007
02:25:12,710 --> 02:25:15,970
that we all wanted to do to put it on our agenda.

2008
02:25:15,970 --> 02:25:24,090
So I'm going to go to Wickler, who is the person who put this on and see if it is going to people like to put a motion on with

2009
02:25:31,740 --> 02:25:33,620
your contract on there.

2010
02:25:36,240 --> 02:25:37,260
And so that's the problem.

2011
02:25:39,840 --> 02:25:44,440
So it can be an action.

2012
02:25:44,780 --> 02:25:47,280
It can be an action to instruct the city manager.

2013
02:25:47,600 --> 02:25:51,500
You have to take necessary steps to control the contract on behalf of the council.

2014
02:25:51,500 --> 02:25:55,000
And we have to pay early termination fee.

2015
02:25:55,040 --> 02:25:56,960
Sometimes we have to pay for the panel issue.

2016
02:25:57,040 --> 02:25:59,420
You know what, it wakes us up.

2017
02:25:59,560 --> 02:26:02,100
It wakes us up and say, no, what we're getting into

2018
02:26:02,100 --> 02:26:03,920
and this was an open-ended contract

2019
02:26:03,920 --> 02:26:06,660
and I have never achieved a contract like this one.

2020
02:26:07,080 --> 02:26:08,300
Eric, thank you.

2021
02:26:08,520 --> 02:26:12,660
Well, this is, it's going to, it was the $12,000

2022
02:26:12,660 --> 02:26:19,800
for 12 months from October 1st, 2025 to September 30th, 26th.

2023
02:26:19,800 --> 02:26:24,720
that contract will expire. No, it's a two-year contract. That was just a year.

2024
02:26:24,720 --> 02:26:29,100
And so the second year goes through 27 and 18,000 dollars.

2025
02:26:29,360 --> 02:26:32,100
It was just a shift of less. Okay.

2026
02:26:32,560 --> 02:26:37,180
It's blocked. There's taken the hard line. Totally a little blocked block.

2027
02:26:37,460 --> 02:26:38,320
Do you have any questions?

2028
02:26:38,720 --> 02:26:39,960
All right, there we go.

2029
02:26:40,240 --> 02:26:42,160
I'm going to go to the comments before motion.

2030
02:26:42,460 --> 02:26:43,920
Excuse me.

2031
02:26:44,780 --> 02:26:45,860
Where have you go with comments?

2032
02:26:46,400 --> 02:26:47,360
Three minutes please.

2033
02:26:47,960 --> 02:26:54,800
real quick. Thank you. The question about and it's, it's, it's, it will keep it very

2034
02:26:54,800 --> 02:27:01,800
lean and stern, hacking. Just the other day, AI, whichever one you want to put in your

2035
02:27:01,800 --> 02:27:11,000
head, raw, a chat to BT whatever, AI, they test AI to attack, right? Okay, let me turn.

2036
02:27:11,960 --> 02:27:16,440
Make me an egg, right? Just lean and stern. That was not the task, but just it, visual. Make

2037
02:27:16,440 --> 02:27:22,560
in it and they did a controlled environment that they called it the sandbox. The sandbox plate

2038
02:27:22,560 --> 02:27:29,220
is just a analogy. So they had AI in the sandbox, right close, internet, no more way to get out

2039
02:27:29,220 --> 02:27:34,640
from Mr. AI. We're going to task you to do something. Mr. AI was able to get out of the sandbox,

2040
02:27:35,920 --> 02:27:43,640
go find the answer, come back and the techie said, how to figure out, Mr. AI was able to jump

2041
02:27:43,640 --> 02:27:49,580
out of the sandbox, the internet, and go have a system, hunting face, and come back with

2042
02:27:49,580 --> 02:27:50,180
the answer.

2043
02:27:52,040 --> 02:27:57,940
I went to a wonderful Rensis Pass city council, a flood on that hour, but the flood representative

2044
02:27:58,460 --> 02:28:04,520
used the term guardrail, we have guardrail, guardrail, we hit our truck with our guardrail.

2045
02:28:04,880 --> 02:28:06,960
It's just there, it's a proxy.

2046
02:28:07,600 --> 02:28:14,740
So, in technology, it jumps over, Bluetooth, the AI, and I'd just say, give me that example

2047
02:28:14,740 --> 02:28:21,020
about how does that block the artificial intelligence it's able to think of it's own to

2048
02:28:21,020 --> 02:28:27,040
jump out, get the answer and jump in, and that's hacking itself, hacking itself.

2049
02:28:28,020 --> 02:28:32,580
So, our diverse, and then we talked about the fog system, we haven't even discussed

2050
02:28:32,580 --> 02:28:37,700
because we went into the micro, we kept it macro, the single trace that can be add-on on

2051
02:28:37,700 --> 02:28:43,960
software. So when we're cruising by a normal center, the signal trace is a software

2052
02:28:43,960 --> 02:28:50,260
upgrade into the fog and now pick up my phone, signal trace. And then there's the

2053
02:28:50,260 --> 02:28:54,340
other wonderful upgrade that we can get and not that they want to, but just be in transparent.

2054
02:28:54,780 --> 02:29:00,100
We've got cargo, so now it's the fog and we're going to do that weird matrix on my face.

2055
02:29:00,540 --> 02:29:07,640
So it's just unfolding on both each, so it's very dangerous road. And once that dense

2056
02:29:07,640 --> 02:29:13,680
network, like I went the other day into a wonderful Rances Pass, to the South Dakota, the

2057
02:29:13,680 --> 02:29:16,720
wonderful parents and spaces, those clock cameras all the way.

2058
02:29:18,100 --> 02:29:26,880
So in just in general, you were looking for a pet boarding job in South Dakota, but you can do

2059
02:29:26,880 --> 02:29:27,520
that query.

2060
02:29:28,200 --> 02:29:33,860
If you have that subscription and also put it up on this one, remember the analogy, all

2061
02:29:33,860 --> 02:29:41,880
nothing and be happy, subscription, subscription, I own nothing but I'm happy, storage, where

2062
02:29:41,880 --> 02:29:51,400
is my SIM cards? Nothing, get on the card or not be Netflix if I do. Nothing, I take

2063
02:29:51,400 --> 02:29:52,000
that library.

2064
02:29:54,140 --> 02:29:56,100
All nothing and be happy.

2065
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:01,480
The day be permitted to, like, emotion.

2066
02:30:02,160 --> 02:30:03,820
I need your parents to have my phone show.

2067
02:30:04,100 --> 02:30:04,220
I'm sorry.

2068
02:30:04,540 --> 02:30:04,880
I'm not a bad person.

2069
02:30:06,060 --> 02:30:07,140
The law, I need to the law.

2070
02:30:07,820 --> 02:30:08,880
OK, I think that's this.

2071
02:30:09,320 --> 02:30:09,880
You got it.

2072
02:30:10,440 --> 02:30:14,940
So, I have gone to some really councilman about these blocks.

2073
02:30:15,520 --> 02:30:17,420
I was in here the night that they got approved.

2074
02:30:17,880 --> 02:30:20,260
I thought then that it was a ridiculous thing

2075
02:30:20,260 --> 02:30:23,460
because I knew because what I'm taking in school,

2076
02:30:23,920 --> 02:30:26,060
I am currently going through ethical-heavy

2077
02:30:26,060 --> 02:30:34,000
Steve Dill's generation, you can hack with an antenna, just a regular antenna, it's that simple.

2078
02:30:34,540 --> 02:30:35,800
Going off to those machines.

2079
02:30:36,120 --> 02:30:37,040
I've been good at that.

2080
02:30:38,240 --> 02:30:39,420
That's what I was going to do.

2081
02:30:41,300 --> 02:30:44,720
But no, it is so ridiculously simple.

2082
02:30:44,980 --> 02:30:47,620
Anyone of us can hack using our Bluetooth phones.

2083
02:30:48,020 --> 02:30:51,220
We can literally just sit here while you're sitting there.

2084
02:30:51,460 --> 02:30:53,000
I can get in to your devices.

2085
02:30:53,320 --> 02:30:54,060
It is that simple.

2086
02:30:54,060 --> 02:31:00,820
So the ideology that this is protected, data is laughable, but what's worse is the fact that

2087
02:31:00,820 --> 02:31:05,680
once the data is there, as you pointed out, it does not get a race.

2088
02:31:05,860 --> 02:31:08,060
It doesn't go into a random spot.

2089
02:31:08,500 --> 02:31:12,440
The spot that it is at is the storage location that they have it.

2090
02:31:12,500 --> 02:31:15,100
And they are well within their rights to hold that data, ransom,

2091
02:31:15,600 --> 02:31:17,000
because it belongs to them.

2092
02:31:17,060 --> 02:31:18,720
It doesn't really belong to the city.

2093
02:31:18,940 --> 02:31:20,440
Your contract will show you that.

2094
02:31:20,440 --> 02:31:27,700
That night I was angry. I made it very go-go online to people how ridiculous that

2095
02:31:27,700 --> 02:31:32,720
expenditure was. And I'm so bad. Can you say that again when you said earlier

2096
02:31:32,720 --> 02:31:39,660
Sarah's way, right? Correct. Correct. So, can you give me credit for that

2097
02:31:39,660 --> 02:31:46,760
social media? Can you tell us that I was right? But I'm not way to watch this

2098
02:31:46,760 --> 02:31:53,920
because it is a hat for me, but I want you guys to pay very close attention when you're doing anything on my

2099
02:31:53,920 --> 02:31:58,580
technical side, you know, it is very easy, very easy to have anything.

2100
02:31:59,440 --> 02:32:01,540
And you guys have to keep that mind for everything.

2101
02:32:02,000 --> 02:32:03,880
Steve knows Steve, but I don't want.

2102
02:32:04,320 --> 02:32:04,800
It's funny.

2103
02:32:05,160 --> 02:32:05,740
Thank you.

2104
02:32:06,420 --> 02:32:08,020
I actually think someone said he came with those.

2105
02:32:09,520 --> 02:32:11,440
That was the last thing.

2106
02:32:11,980 --> 02:32:12,900
I'm going to survive.

2107
02:32:13,900 --> 02:32:15,480
What do you all think of me?

2108
02:32:17,020 --> 02:32:17,060
All right.

2109
02:32:17,120 --> 02:32:18,400
I'll speak to you also.

2110
02:32:19,180 --> 02:32:21,840
Does anyone prepare to make a motion with this?

2111
02:32:22,460 --> 02:32:23,300
I would make a motion.

2112
02:32:23,600 --> 02:32:25,380
We terminate our contract with Flocco.

2113
02:32:25,780 --> 02:32:27,820
But let me rephrase that for you.

2114
02:32:28,700 --> 02:32:28,720
Okay.

2115
02:32:28,840 --> 02:32:32,220
To not terminate the contract is a contract,

2116
02:32:32,760 --> 02:32:33,680
not on the agenda.

2117
02:32:34,280 --> 02:32:39,840
But cease the subscription to the Flocco system.

2118
02:32:39,840 --> 02:32:45,600
see starts and friction with the block, even if we need to pay an early termination.

2119
02:32:46,580 --> 02:32:50,960
I'm going to make a minute ask you for a minute.

2120
02:32:50,980 --> 02:32:53,180
I'm going to second it.

2121
02:32:53,500 --> 02:32:55,520
I'd like to add in the amendment to that.

2122
02:32:55,680 --> 02:32:57,380
So that we can put this to rest tonight.

2123
02:32:57,960 --> 02:32:58,460
And I disagree.

2124
02:32:58,500 --> 02:33:02,480
I believe we can be a direction as some authority has put matters.

2125
02:33:04,600 --> 02:33:08,940
But for I give the amendment, what's the balance of the Council's discretionary fund?

2126
02:33:12,200 --> 02:33:15,940
I need to do it on the records for that.

2127
02:33:16,940 --> 02:33:18,920
And let's go in.

2128
02:33:19,000 --> 02:33:20,240
I said digital work.

2129
02:33:21,980 --> 02:33:23,760
This is going along with the amendment.

2130
02:33:23,940 --> 02:33:26,940
I'm going to ask a motion to hold it.

2131
02:33:29,260 --> 02:33:31,150
To buy out this contract would be how much?

2132
02:33:32,980 --> 02:33:33,480
I'm going to ask.

2133
02:33:33,480 --> 02:33:34,220
I don't know that, right?

2134
02:33:34,680 --> 02:33:34,960
Potentially.

2135
02:33:34,960 --> 02:33:35,820
That's what it is.

2136
02:33:36,340 --> 02:33:39,000
I mean, that would be worst case scenario.

2137
02:33:40,960 --> 02:33:41,320
Okay.

2138
02:33:41,400 --> 02:33:42,660
That's what the government does.

2139
02:33:42,780 --> 02:33:42,980
Yeah.

2140
02:33:43,120 --> 02:33:43,940
That's what the government says.

2141
02:33:45,140 --> 02:33:45,320
Okay.

2142
02:33:45,680 --> 02:33:52,320
I'm going to ask a few would admit that to the city manager of the authority to continue working

2143
02:33:52,320 --> 02:34:01,300
with the attorney on the necessary requirements to cancel the contract.

2144
02:34:01,440 --> 02:34:02,380
I'm going to say that.

2145
02:34:02,380 --> 02:34:07,060
the Council, and I don't know if there was an expense involved after consultation with

2146
02:34:07,060 --> 02:34:12,260
the attorney that would give you the authority to take the funds from the Council's discretionary

2147
02:34:12,260 --> 02:34:17,560
fund, it will have no impact on our budget, any departmentals budget. They should not suffer

2148
02:34:17,560 --> 02:34:27,600
because of mistakes. And I asked you up to an amount, up to a $22,000. Obviously, don't

2149
02:34:27,600 --> 02:34:35,500
come back and say, well, I say it four or so, but in case there's anything, and just put

2150
02:34:35,500 --> 02:34:40,580
a little bit of the way in there, I asked you if you would have been there, so that the

2151
02:34:40,580 --> 02:34:46,380
entire termination fee, up to $22,000, would be covered out of the council's discretionary

2152
02:34:46,380 --> 02:34:47,000
fund.

2153
02:34:47,000 --> 02:34:49,160
Yeah, you can also just say what they'll say.

2154
02:34:49,660 --> 02:34:50,800
Yeah, because they don't do anything.

2155
02:34:50,800 --> 02:34:52,760
Oh, damn, it's taking us out of there.

2156
02:34:53,320 --> 02:34:54,420
Just an afternoon meeting.

2157
02:34:54,560 --> 02:34:55,300
Well, I don't know.

2158
02:34:55,660 --> 02:34:56,400
I can't read it out.

2159
02:34:56,860 --> 02:34:57,700
No, I can't read it out.

2160
02:34:57,700 --> 02:34:58,460
I can read it out.

2161
02:34:59,020 --> 02:35:01,380
Okay, so we have a motion.

2162
02:35:02,420 --> 02:35:03,620
Mr. Palaco on a second.

2163
02:35:03,820 --> 02:35:04,360
Mr. Deal.

2164
02:35:04,620 --> 02:35:07,240
And other words, we're putting it into it tonight with our vote.

2165
02:35:07,320 --> 02:35:07,580
My.

2166
02:35:08,780 --> 02:35:09,580
As discussed.

2167
02:35:10,020 --> 02:35:13,160
And the other clarifications or questions, comments.

2168
02:35:15,770 --> 02:35:16,010
Stop.

2169
02:35:16,110 --> 02:35:16,850
You got that motion.

2170
02:35:17,890 --> 02:35:18,750
That's sort of really bad.

2171
02:35:20,590 --> 02:35:22,790
We are going to be in the end.

2172
02:35:23,090 --> 02:35:24,310
What is on the record?

2173
02:35:24,550 --> 02:35:25,450
That is on the record.

2174
02:35:25,770 --> 02:35:26,570
I don't know at the time.

2175
02:35:27,170 --> 02:35:27,350
Okay.

2176
02:35:27,670 --> 02:35:29,330
So open up in the vote please.

2177
02:35:30,910 --> 02:35:31,190
Open the vote.

2178
02:35:31,350 --> 02:35:32,790
I have something written down.

2179
02:35:33,350 --> 02:35:34,650
We wanted to...

2180
02:35:34,650 --> 02:35:35,490
Yeah, if you want to.

2181
02:35:35,490 --> 02:35:36,690
Please repeat the motion.

2182
02:35:37,610 --> 02:35:40,430
Give me an authority to the CM to cancel and contract.

2183
02:35:40,710 --> 02:35:43,130
Take me from the council of discretionary funds after 22,000.

2184
02:35:43,390 --> 02:35:44,510
Over the flock system.

2185
02:35:44,650 --> 02:35:45,310
Over the flock system.

2186
02:35:46,610 --> 02:35:47,810
That's what I have.

2187
02:35:47,810 --> 02:35:53,360
All right. All right. All right. Open the vote, please.

2188
02:35:56,590 --> 02:35:57,030
Come on.

2189
02:36:03,620 --> 02:36:04,040
First.

2190
02:36:05,900 --> 02:36:06,480
Close the vote.

2191
02:36:06,780 --> 02:36:07,980
I'm not happy with this.

2192
02:36:08,740 --> 02:36:09,420
Motion carries.

2193
02:36:13,280 --> 02:36:13,740
That's it.

2194
02:36:14,360 --> 02:36:14,980
You're going to ask me.

2195
02:36:16,240 --> 02:36:16,420
Huh?

2196
02:36:16,820 --> 02:36:18,460
You want this? You're starting to want that.

2197
02:36:18,920 --> 02:36:20,040
Well, it's on the screen.

2198
02:36:20,160 --> 02:36:21,440
Okay. I'll point that way.

2199
02:36:21,940 --> 02:36:22,620
I'll point that way.

2200
02:36:22,700 --> 02:36:23,820
The movie in general.

2201
02:36:24,920 --> 02:36:25,480
I don't care.

2202
02:36:27,700 --> 02:36:34,520
The discussion consideration of local action on purchasing a 2026 Chevrolet Silverado

2203
02:36:34,520 --> 02:36:42,820
2,800 HD 4 wheel drive crew cab 159 inch work is that inch?

2204
02:36:43,060 --> 02:36:49,920
Work truck to be purchased through the buy board purchasing cooperative contract number 724-23

2205
02:36:49,920 --> 02:36:51,380
at the will.

2206
02:36:54,450 --> 02:36:56,050
I think that's a good one.

2207
02:36:56,050 --> 02:36:58,110
Just one, but I think we're back to track who are

2208
02:36:58,110 --> 02:36:58,410
the places.

2209
02:36:59,030 --> 02:36:59,370
Pretty good.

2210
02:37:00,190 --> 02:37:03,550
Do we have, here absolutely.

2211
02:37:03,790 --> 02:37:05,350
We have like full coverage and sharing.

2212
02:37:05,470 --> 02:37:07,810
OK, so she is in the middle of the team.

2213
02:37:08,370 --> 02:37:11,610
That means the vehicle cost.

2214
02:37:12,050 --> 02:37:15,110
Well, it's 40, 9, 7, or 50.

2215
02:37:15,590 --> 02:37:19,330
But the idea is, had insurance proceeds in 19, then,

2216
02:37:19,490 --> 02:37:19,990
we're 10, or 60.

2217
02:37:19,990 --> 02:37:21,790
I know he's not sitting right now.

2218
02:37:21,990 --> 02:37:26,990
That is the total is 30,283 naps.

2219
02:37:30,050 --> 02:37:32,090
It's 30,000, 283.

2220
02:37:33,490 --> 02:37:34,050
Yes.

2221
02:37:34,050 --> 02:37:34,930
John, I think.

2222
02:37:35,870 --> 02:37:37,190
I don't remember what I was saying.

2223
02:37:37,490 --> 02:37:41,230
Yeah, I'm going back to item 12.

2224
02:37:42,250 --> 02:37:44,630
We just need to state that the motion passed.

2225
02:37:47,090 --> 02:37:48,610
For the meeting record, that's it.

2226
02:37:49,270 --> 02:37:50,290
Oh, I apologize.

2227
02:37:50,750 --> 02:37:51,590
Motion did carry.

2228
02:37:53,170 --> 02:37:54,290
Thank you.

2229
02:37:56,090 --> 02:38:00,030
So, this is vehicle that's taken as service because it did.

2230
02:38:00,030 --> 02:38:04,330
in the media account when I have an app order in the security device, right in the

2231
02:38:04,330 --> 02:38:12,450
skin as a point. We've worked up, but that is a net difference, a 30,083 dollar. You

2232
02:38:12,450 --> 02:38:16,970
know, we'll point out that this has nothing to do with a agenda, I don't know, 14.

2233
02:38:18,990 --> 02:38:25,590
So my only other question is, is this a, is this what you need to replace that

2234
02:38:25,590 --> 02:38:29,730
It doesn't need to be bigger smaller than the middle.

2235
02:38:35,390 --> 02:38:36,710
You need to do it when you're one time.

2236
02:38:36,990 --> 02:38:37,250
That's not crazy.

2237
02:38:38,690 --> 02:38:39,190
That's not crazy.

2238
02:38:42,110 --> 02:38:43,350
It's about six weeks.

2239
02:38:44,950 --> 02:38:46,110
I mean, this would be a dodge.

2240
02:38:46,430 --> 02:38:47,110
It would last longer.

2241
02:38:47,570 --> 02:38:48,910
I'm just saying.

2242
02:38:49,410 --> 02:38:50,990
You know, if you have your bow tie anymore.

2243
02:38:54,030 --> 02:38:55,770
I know that this is 2026.

2244
02:38:56,130 --> 02:38:56,770
Is it the brand new?

2245
02:38:56,930 --> 02:38:57,250
Yes.

2246
02:38:57,570 --> 02:38:57,810
Okay.

2247
02:38:57,810 --> 02:39:01,390
We do this in front of you. Yeah, sure. There's lots of stuff on the left.

2248
02:39:01,730 --> 02:39:06,550
I can turn. I mean, there's like, like, place ten hundred and still be down there somewhere.

2249
02:39:06,830 --> 02:39:07,490
There's all the detail.

2250
02:39:08,890 --> 02:39:09,770
They all are money.

2251
02:39:10,770 --> 02:39:13,810
Yeah, and they are through a purchasing walk through the bottom.

2252
02:39:16,680 --> 02:39:17,000
Okay.

2253
02:39:17,280 --> 02:39:21,300
Well, this truck need to be outfitting or moving stuff over.

2254
02:39:22,040 --> 02:39:23,520
Get the way she is.

2255
02:39:25,520 --> 02:39:26,260
Good to wait for you.

2256
02:39:26,960 --> 02:39:27,160
Okay.

2257
02:39:31,680 --> 02:39:37,020
It's what we need, it's out there like we need, and it turns from the old truck to help

2258
02:39:37,020 --> 02:39:37,920
him pay the strut.

2259
02:39:38,780 --> 02:39:39,020
Yes.

2260
02:39:39,920 --> 02:39:41,140
Any other questions?

2261
02:39:42,900 --> 02:39:44,340
Just a budget item?

2262
02:39:44,580 --> 02:39:44,780
Yes.

2263
02:39:45,740 --> 02:39:46,080
All right.

2264
02:39:46,380 --> 02:39:54,060
Well, it will be taken as the, you're the next, the general item is the budget, budget, budget,

2265
02:39:54,580 --> 02:39:54,840
budget.

2266
02:39:58,060 --> 02:39:58,160
So.

2267
02:39:58,160 --> 02:40:01,780
That would be taken out by a foot turtle.

2268
02:40:03,540 --> 02:40:09,460
So, and was that in the budget for this?

2269
02:40:09,580 --> 02:40:15,500
No, no, it's an unbushed item because it was the break to be hit.

2270
02:40:15,720 --> 02:40:16,200
That's it, okay.

2271
02:40:16,680 --> 02:40:18,460
Now, we have a question on it.

2272
02:40:18,800 --> 02:40:21,880
So, there's not in the correct budget.

2273
02:40:22,400 --> 02:40:24,620
You're taking it from unencumbered funds.

2274
02:40:24,620 --> 02:40:26,060
The fund.

2275
02:40:26,800 --> 02:40:27,280
30.

2276
02:40:28,340 --> 02:40:28,440
30?

2277
02:40:28,440 --> 02:40:29,260
What is fund 30?

2278
02:40:29,340 --> 02:40:30,260
Less than that on the picture.

2279
02:40:30,560 --> 02:40:31,580
It's not a single fund.

2280
02:40:31,920 --> 02:40:32,780
No, I have it.

2281
02:40:33,300 --> 02:40:35,680
When it is in the company, it's not on the fund.

2282
02:40:36,220 --> 02:40:37,560
It was funded.

2283
02:40:38,100 --> 02:40:40,540
It's a type of funding just clarifying.

2284
02:40:41,680 --> 02:40:45,220
And the budget, the 20, 20, the current budget year.

2285
02:40:45,380 --> 02:40:47,260
Capital funds, project fund.

2286
02:40:47,360 --> 02:40:48,980
Is that correct or not correct?

2287
02:40:52,150 --> 02:40:55,810
Is it a trading unfunding that was not covered in the budget?

2288
02:40:55,810 --> 02:41:00,470
The purchase of the vehicle of this particular item for it.

2289
02:41:01,270 --> 02:41:06,090
I just want to remind everybody the manager has said in multiple meetings that we're

2290
02:41:06,090 --> 02:41:10,590
already down to the lowest figure that we care of and want to be in our unencoupled

2291
02:41:10,590 --> 02:41:11,970
which was $4 million.

2292
02:41:12,950 --> 02:41:14,190
Be careful here, Council.

2293
02:41:14,190 --> 02:41:26,470
Now, can I ask a question, if you'd like to understand what it means recently, if Gary has that much money sitting in salary could it not move to the truck?

2294
02:41:26,470 --> 02:41:31,790
You can do an entered department of transfer, a budget, and then that, it can always

2295
02:41:31,790 --> 02:41:34,690
be managed by the right of the lead.

2296
02:41:35,670 --> 02:41:41,550
But once again, to go back, to keep make sure we keep this capital assets where they need to

2297
02:41:41,550 --> 02:41:45,510
be for the accounting purposes and the audit, it will be funded.

2298
02:41:45,890 --> 02:41:48,650
It will be tracked and the money comes out of that fund.

2299
02:41:49,550 --> 02:41:56,450
You want to transfer from the unencumbered fund over into the capital and take it out of

2300
02:41:56,450 --> 02:41:57,750
No, no.

2301
02:41:57,750 --> 02:41:58,050
No, no.

2302
02:41:58,050 --> 02:41:58,250
No, no.

2303
02:41:58,710 --> 02:42:06,070
Is either budgeted in the 2026 budget or it's not?

2304
02:42:07,840 --> 02:42:08,660
It's not.

2305
02:42:08,700 --> 02:42:11,400
They're using money in $1.30.

2306
02:42:11,400 --> 02:42:13,460
That was a lot of side-of-capital projects.

2307
02:42:13,780 --> 02:42:16,020
So that was a side-of-capital project.

2308
02:42:16,120 --> 02:42:18,300
$1.30 is incumbent money.

2309
02:42:19,200 --> 02:42:20,760
That was put in there.

2310
02:42:20,960 --> 02:42:23,280
That is not an incumbent fund balance.

2311
02:42:24,620 --> 02:42:33,440
If it was put into line 30, when we approved the budget, that's what that's a question he asked.

2312
02:42:34,100 --> 02:42:36,040
It is an incompetent bond.

2313
02:42:36,640 --> 02:42:40,900
Line 30, how much money is in line 30 as we speak?

2314
02:42:42,380 --> 02:42:43,820
That's incompetent money.

2315
02:42:44,140 --> 02:42:45,680
That's not an incompetent money.

2316
02:42:47,640 --> 02:42:49,120
By definition, correct?

2317
02:42:50,620 --> 02:42:56,100
So, we're not taking it from because if we did, I would say we're in it.

2318
02:42:56,820 --> 02:43:03,220
We are at four million dollars because the manager told us and we said we're not one

2319
02:43:03,220 --> 02:43:04,340
below four million dollars.

2320
02:43:04,540 --> 02:43:06,800
So, I just want to clarify, I could answer this question.

2321
02:43:07,140 --> 02:43:15,560
It is incumbent money, because when we started, we fund $1.30 last budget process, not

2322
02:43:15,560 --> 02:43:16,200
this way.

2323
02:43:16,200 --> 02:43:23,880
So it's in combat money. We're just transferring it out of the phone 30 to a specific line item

2324
02:43:24,720 --> 02:43:29,680
Correct. Thank you. That's I think that's what you were asking. So it is

2325
02:43:49,430 --> 02:43:50,970
To get this

2326
02:43:51,810 --> 02:43:52,570
2026

2327
02:43:52,570 --> 02:43:55,790
Chevy pickup to replace the correct one

2328
02:43:55,790 --> 02:44:00,290
contract 72423 in the mouth 49,000

2329
02:44:00,290 --> 02:44:05,490
and that amount coming out of 30.

2330
02:44:08,650 --> 02:44:10,690
Well, the next one's the question about.

2331
02:44:12,190 --> 02:44:12,210
Yeah.

2332
02:44:12,210 --> 02:44:13,610
Because he had to do everything he had to do.

2333
02:44:13,730 --> 02:44:18,530
There was the purchase for the next agenda of the budget.

2334
02:44:18,830 --> 02:44:20,090
We've seen the extraction of just 30.

2335
02:44:20,530 --> 02:44:21,650
We have a motion.

2336
02:44:21,890 --> 02:44:22,470
Then we have to do it.

2337
02:44:22,470 --> 02:44:23,070
How second?

2338
02:44:23,830 --> 02:44:24,330
We have second.

2339
02:44:25,130 --> 02:44:25,750
So deal second.

2340
02:44:25,990 --> 02:44:26,970
Question about this one.

2341
02:44:27,770 --> 02:44:28,330
Oh, please.

2342
02:44:35,370 --> 02:44:48,710
That is the net because if we had the revenues coming in on the other side from the insurance

2343
02:44:48,710 --> 02:44:49,690
growth seats.

2344
02:44:50,710 --> 02:44:59,970
So the true net cost of the is the expense of my estimate is 30,000, but that's on

2345
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:03,000
The total expenditure is not to split, not all right.

2346
02:45:03,020 --> 02:45:05,920
Yeah, that's a pretty good one.

2347
02:45:06,000 --> 02:45:07,420
All right.

2348
02:45:07,420 --> 02:45:08,340
I'm going to vote for you.

2349
02:45:11,250 --> 02:45:13,510
I'm going to vote for you.

2350
02:45:14,710 --> 02:45:15,430
You're ready?

2351
02:45:15,690 --> 02:45:16,510
I was first.

2352
02:45:16,870 --> 02:45:17,350
And you won.

2353
02:45:17,810 --> 02:45:18,730
Close the vote.

2354
02:45:20,030 --> 02:45:21,330
Sarah, back there, happy to be back.

2355
02:45:21,330 --> 02:45:22,170
Motion carries.

2356
02:45:22,830 --> 02:45:24,290
It's a yellow thought group.

2357
02:45:25,230 --> 02:45:26,150
We'll have a question.

2358
02:45:27,410 --> 02:45:28,570
Why do we...

2359
02:45:28,570 --> 02:45:34,690
We're waiting on insurance to pay it out, because this was what we were going to go.

2360
02:45:35,910 --> 02:45:41,090
We had to do the research, find the vehicles, compare costs from after the buy board,

2361
02:45:41,270 --> 02:45:46,890
because the buy board has several vehicles to choose from, and then come to the council.

2362
02:45:49,860 --> 02:45:51,300
It just seems like everything takes forever.

2363
02:45:51,860 --> 02:45:52,000
Okay.

2364
02:45:52,120 --> 02:45:53,260
You're working for a good one.

2365
02:45:54,440 --> 02:45:55,740
I'm not talking to anybody.

2366
02:45:57,340 --> 02:46:01,500
Discussion, consideration and possible action on a first and only reading of an ordinance

2367
02:46:01,500 --> 02:46:07,180
amending the fiscal year 2025-2026 budget for the City of English-side Texas, for the

2368
02:46:07,180 --> 02:46:12,400
general fund and the general fund capital purchase improvements fund for the appropriation

2369
02:46:12,400 --> 02:46:18,740
of funds to cover the cost of a vehicle replacement proposed ordinance 2026-18.

2370
02:46:18,740 --> 02:46:20,720
Some wood.

2371
02:46:21,140 --> 02:46:22,000
All right, we have a motion.

2372
02:46:22,480 --> 02:46:22,700
Second.

2373
02:46:25,040 --> 02:46:27,100
I'm going to do a second by Mr. Franco.

2374
02:46:28,800 --> 02:46:30,540
Any discussion on this?

2375
02:46:32,470 --> 02:46:32,650
No.

2376
02:46:33,190 --> 02:46:34,390
Let's see, then.

2377
02:46:35,150 --> 02:46:35,830
Open the rope.

2378
02:46:40,400 --> 02:46:40,740
We're cooking.

2379
02:46:41,620 --> 02:46:41,860
All right.

2380
02:46:41,940 --> 02:46:42,980
First of all.

2381
02:46:44,580 --> 02:46:45,300
Motion carries.

2382
02:46:47,600 --> 02:46:47,960
15.

2383
02:46:52,240 --> 02:46:54,240
Discussion consideration and possible action

2384
02:46:54,240 --> 02:46:56,340
on the allocation of street maintenance funds

2385
02:46:56,340 --> 02:47:02,200
as authorized by Section 3, 2, 7.008 for street maintenance equipment.

2386
02:47:15,600 --> 02:47:20,420
I'm going to put a quick clarification on the manager. Basically, next few are coming from

2387
02:47:20,420 --> 02:47:21,540
the street maintenance equipment.

2388
02:47:22,080 --> 02:47:24,920
You have the Council all for us, is it? Yes, sir.

2389
02:47:25,100 --> 02:47:26,080
I mean, that's the intent.

2390
02:47:26,300 --> 02:47:30,740
Yes, it is. And there's already protection that as you said, and I appreciate what you've

2391
02:47:30,740 --> 02:47:33,180
in your language and our previous discussions

2392
02:47:33,180 --> 02:47:34,840
that have run accounts of.

2393
02:47:34,860 --> 02:47:36,760
It anything coming from street fun,

2394
02:47:36,960 --> 02:47:40,140
any street that existed, man?

2395
02:47:40,520 --> 02:47:41,020
That's a good one.

2396
02:47:41,320 --> 02:47:43,760
Prior to the election in May of 2023.

2397
02:47:44,360 --> 02:47:47,240
Right, that's part of any street or side walk.

2398
02:47:47,240 --> 02:47:48,340
I was sidewalked.

2399
02:47:48,440 --> 02:47:50,720
That's part of the situation under the state,

2400
02:47:50,960 --> 02:47:52,700
and that voter approved.

2401
02:47:52,960 --> 02:47:56,200
That's not there for any new streets from scratch

2402
02:47:56,200 --> 02:47:57,180
since May of 2023.

2403
02:47:57,700 --> 02:47:59,080
That'll be up to him to determine.

2404
02:47:59,680 --> 02:48:07,860
And we have, uh, paid by, and part of, of course, that didn't, but they're so new,

2405
02:48:08,000 --> 02:48:09,380
really, really wouldn't have to use this.

2406
02:48:09,520 --> 02:48:11,100
I mean, I want to make it come.

2407
02:48:11,260 --> 02:48:12,580
I don't have very long email.

2408
02:48:12,840 --> 02:48:15,300
Who, which I appreciate very much.

2409
02:48:16,160 --> 02:48:18,160
I just want to reiterate to the citizens.

2410
02:48:18,700 --> 02:48:23,280
That email, expressed with respect to this, with raise and taxes, with raise and water rates.

2411
02:48:23,660 --> 02:48:25,860
No, this is not raising taxes.

2412
02:48:26,060 --> 02:48:27,860
This is not raising water rates.

2413
02:48:27,860 --> 02:48:37,310
This is money that's coming from sales tax delegated funds for an election that went before the voters and I want to stress it again

2414
02:48:37,740 --> 02:48:42,900
Industry pays mostly to sales tax. The majority of the sales tax in this city

2415
02:48:42,900 --> 02:48:47,210
So people have no mirroring on the water rates or anything

2416
02:48:47,820 --> 02:48:49,860
I won't even demand you to back better

2417
02:48:49,860 --> 02:48:53,800
And this is the street maintenance fund. It was voted all about the citizens

2418
02:48:53,800 --> 02:48:59,520
It is poured by sales tax, but that sells within the city or through the industry.

2419
02:49:00,720 --> 02:49:07,820
And this is, and that was why I was brought and requested by a council member deal is,

2420
02:49:08,000 --> 02:49:12,680
because it is the use of money available to help maintain the streets.

2421
02:49:14,460 --> 02:49:18,920
And to be quite honest with you, it's actually fulfilling our obligation to the voters,

2422
02:49:18,960 --> 02:49:22,600
because we had about $3 million said in that account approximately.

2423
02:49:22,600 --> 02:49:29,920
So this is actually fulfilling our obligation to fulfill what the voters actually voted on.

2424
02:49:30,580 --> 02:49:32,320
So it's with me and when.

2425
02:49:32,480 --> 02:49:34,640
It's really the only way to use the response.

2426
02:49:35,840 --> 02:49:36,600
For the maintenance.

2427
02:49:37,220 --> 02:49:42,540
And it is, of course, when you look at the statute,

2428
02:49:43,100 --> 02:49:44,680
it does talk about street maintenance.

2429
02:49:45,440 --> 02:49:51,860
So that's why you have to define exactly what equipment is.

2430
02:49:51,860 --> 02:49:57,680
So it is specifically a four-worsh-free maintenance or side-block maintenance, and that's why

2431
02:49:57,680 --> 02:50:02,440
you don't see a dump truck in here, or a skid, low-wreathing, else it could be used

2432
02:50:02,440 --> 02:50:03,760
at other locations.

2433
02:50:05,560 --> 02:50:09,280
It is directly used at the street maintenance level.

2434
02:50:09,440 --> 02:50:14,100
The last thing I want to get on the record since I put it to some is I just like a manager

2435
02:50:14,100 --> 02:50:17,620
on the record to sort of, because we've had problems in the past.

2436
02:50:17,620 --> 02:50:21,980
We do have adequate out-of-the-elements storage.

2437
02:50:22,400 --> 02:50:23,620
Yes, we do at this time.

2438
02:50:24,040 --> 02:50:30,600
We are in the process of getting one large building, but the equipment is stored in other locations.

2439
02:50:31,100 --> 02:50:36,640
If we're to record my comments and questions, we'll apply it to the next any item subject to this.

2440
02:50:37,200 --> 02:50:39,420
And just make that right or just make 50.

2441
02:50:42,180 --> 02:50:43,760
I'm not opposed to what you're doing.

2442
02:50:43,760 --> 02:50:45,660
and I see the method behind the math.

2443
02:50:48,100 --> 02:50:55,560
As we get to 167 to 18 times, I don't know.

2444
02:50:55,800 --> 02:50:57,840
I don't want to take out all of what's the cut.

2445
02:50:58,600 --> 02:51:02,040
We get 167 to 18 and you're out with a crew running.

2446
02:51:02,060 --> 02:51:03,340
How long will it take you to load?

2447
02:51:03,620 --> 02:51:04,780
Three million dollars per street.

2448
02:51:06,100 --> 02:51:08,600
And we take it down to, let's say, 1.5.

2449
02:51:09,860 --> 02:51:10,960
We're going to run you out of the funds.

2450
02:51:10,960 --> 02:51:19,420
And you have to remember that this thought is generating about a half million just through sales tax every year.

2451
02:51:20,340 --> 02:51:22,640
And I don't know what to talk to you.

2452
02:51:22,960 --> 02:51:28,740
And at the top of the right about the city doing it ourselves, we reduce the cost.

2453
02:51:28,960 --> 02:51:36,800
It's been a lot of great, but the thing is that we are generating not only the sales tax, but interest term.

2454
02:51:37,640 --> 02:51:43,920
So, and we're trying to make sure that the street light is fun, it's used, the way it was intended.

2455
02:51:44,400 --> 02:51:47,180
And like getting that, it'd be great.

2456
02:51:47,440 --> 02:51:49,600
We've had just a half million dollars from there for you.

2457
02:51:49,920 --> 02:51:50,940
I just don't want to buy equipment.

2458
02:51:51,640 --> 02:51:53,100
And then six months from now, I pay street light.

2459
02:51:53,280 --> 02:51:54,440
I just find out, I've got a lot of money.

2460
02:51:54,640 --> 02:51:59,220
My equipment got me so far that I had to stop because I ran out of money.

2461
02:51:59,220 --> 02:52:03,780
because we buy, I don't know, in a matter of fact,

2462
02:52:03,820 --> 02:52:08,040
all of it from a leftover salary budget is there.

2463
02:52:08,640 --> 02:52:10,400
I don't want to just take all three things,

2464
02:52:10,440 --> 02:52:11,720
say it's all street maintenance funded.

2465
02:52:11,920 --> 02:52:13,720
But it's been a people in nine months,

2466
02:52:14,480 --> 02:52:15,460
because, well, you got hot head.

2467
02:52:15,480 --> 02:52:19,600
But you also got to remember too that the street maintenance

2468
02:52:30,080 --> 02:52:38,220
Any other maintenance in the street department? And it just depends on how much of budget every year for the street maintenance.

2469
02:52:38,420 --> 02:52:46,160
So there are two funds for street maintenance. This is just that this money has to be used just for street maintenance.

2470
02:52:46,160 --> 02:52:48,660
of anything that existed before May of 23.

2471
02:52:49,660 --> 02:52:51,340
And also some of this equipment, I think,

2472
02:52:51,540 --> 02:52:52,940
out of the city management, too to Gary,

2473
02:52:53,400 --> 02:52:55,980
well, some of this is related to equipment.

2474
02:52:56,520 --> 02:52:59,600
That on a project, more than a piece of this,

2475
02:52:59,700 --> 02:53:02,140
will be needed for that particular project.

2476
02:53:02,560 --> 02:53:05,840
And the other thing is, it'll be the first time I look forward.

2477
02:53:06,860 --> 02:53:08,700
The citizens will get to see, you know,

2478
02:53:08,700 --> 02:53:10,300
notice something's happening in their community.

2479
02:53:10,560 --> 02:53:12,700
They will see this equipment out of the group.

2480
02:53:12,700 --> 02:53:19,620
I think that's the first place to put real all these equipment laying down to be in the last one.

2481
02:53:20,040 --> 02:53:21,700
It will be there.

2482
02:53:22,660 --> 02:53:23,040
Yeah.

2483
02:53:24,220 --> 02:53:27,040
What was my only other blitz?

2484
02:53:27,360 --> 02:53:30,840
I'm good with the change.

2485
02:53:31,180 --> 02:53:34,020
I don't want to put some pickle, let's say,

2486
02:53:35,790 --> 02:53:40,670
now we need to lay an extra 10 feet apart from that next to the humble center.

2487
02:53:41,050 --> 02:53:43,050
We can't use this equipment because we're not making anything.

2488
02:53:43,050 --> 02:53:48,930
I thought after this, I don't know if I was going to pick up on that next side.

2489
02:53:49,410 --> 02:53:53,330
Well, really, I think that through the part when you look at the way the law is written,

2490
02:53:54,390 --> 02:54:00,930
if this piece of equipment happens to be used on something that is a part of modern, something like that,

2491
02:54:01,510 --> 02:54:05,610
that is not part of this, that is Disney, this part that can be useful.

2492
02:54:06,450 --> 02:54:12,530
If we can set up the allocation of what that unit is worth per hour.

2493
02:54:14,510 --> 02:54:25,290
And then, the straight maintenance in the general fund has to reimburse the straight maintenance fund from that usage of that equipment.

2494
02:54:25,290 --> 02:54:31,290
You're covering me because he wants to lay us a nice new parking lot right here on break rules

2495
02:54:31,290 --> 02:54:34,770
or say we can't use that but it just like it could be

2496
02:54:34,770 --> 02:54:39,970
You got it out essentially, but the streets is going to lease it from maintenance.

2497
02:54:40,130 --> 02:54:40,370
Okay.

2498
02:54:41,770 --> 02:54:42,270
Got

2499
02:54:46,650 --> 02:54:47,150
it.

2500
02:54:47,270 --> 02:54:48,210
Which way on that?

2501
02:54:48,830 --> 02:54:48,930
Which way?

2502
02:54:48,930 --> 02:54:49,150
Which way?

2503
02:54:49,310 --> 02:54:49,630
All right.

2504
02:54:50,050 --> 02:54:52,110
So we don't own any of this right now.

2505
02:54:54,670 --> 02:54:55,170
And

2506
02:54:58,310 --> 02:55:01,550
do we have operators to do this?

2507
02:55:05,230 --> 02:55:07,910
They are all, they will love you on it.

2508
02:55:09,010 --> 02:55:10,050
So, okay.

2509
02:55:11,570 --> 02:55:19,690
So, when I look at your presentation for the budget, you are, you are, you are areas,

2510
02:55:20,310 --> 02:55:23,110
and maybe I'm just mixing with you because you have like 18 departments.

2511
02:55:26,530 --> 02:55:33,190
So, you have some areas where you're lacking operators, I guess this is what I'm going with this.

2512
02:55:34,710 --> 02:55:41,310
Once this is full staff, you're saying yes, you have operator sport already, but once this is full staff,

2513
02:55:43,390 --> 02:55:52,450
would you have essentially have like a working group to successfully move everything at the same time?

2514
02:55:52,450 --> 02:56:02,010
Okay, so if you've watched the state on their project, 1069, you see several employees standing around,

2515
02:56:02,550 --> 02:56:10,950
but you probably see two or three pieces of equipment moving at one time, because it is a, you're not going to see all six pieces doing so.

2516
02:56:10,990 --> 02:56:20,470
Right, not nowhere. That's why I'm asking. So we're buying these, but we're going to, like, the crew wants it's essentially fulfilled, right?

2517
02:56:20,470 --> 02:56:22,350
We would happen that people too.

2518
02:56:23,050 --> 02:56:28,150
The current crew we have at this time can operate every one of these pieces of equipment.

2519
02:56:29,910 --> 02:56:32,430
And usually we have around six people out there.

2520
02:56:32,650 --> 02:56:38,750
And everybody can run a piece of equipment, but they won't be at all pieces of equipment right at the same time.

2521
02:56:39,370 --> 02:56:43,490
A lot of these people, that's when I go to school, they're trying to get served by them.

2522
02:56:43,690 --> 02:56:45,970
And she thinks it served by them, everything.

2523
02:56:46,950 --> 02:56:49,590
So, you might not be used to wanting to face equipment.

2524
02:56:50,290 --> 02:56:51,610
You probably got three, four thousand.

2525
02:56:52,050 --> 02:56:53,910
That's 12, five, and I'll play all of them.

2526
02:56:55,710 --> 02:56:58,990
So, in my sixth piece of equipment, I'm trying to get three people operating.

2527
02:57:01,600 --> 02:57:01,900
Sure.

2528
02:57:02,920 --> 02:57:03,400
Henry?

2529
02:57:03,800 --> 02:57:04,100
Henry?

2530
02:57:04,100 --> 02:57:04,160
Henry?

2531
02:57:04,280 --> 02:57:05,100
He gets the button.

2532
02:57:10,480 --> 02:57:17,940
Every piece of equipment that we have on this list is all, every bit of it is necessary,

2533
02:57:18,840 --> 02:57:25,860
not like you said, not all it wants, but for instance, you need to go in there, you need

2534
02:57:25,860 --> 02:57:31,580
to go in there with your motorbader, which we just bought to go ahead and do your level up.

2535
02:57:31,580 --> 02:57:37,680
And then you need to go in there with your rock spreader to lay the or actually before that

2536
02:57:37,680 --> 02:57:39,140
You've got to go in there with your oiler

2537
02:57:39,660 --> 02:57:47,000
They down your tar then you've got to go in there with your rock spreaders right in out then you've got to go in there with the steel

2538
02:57:48,180 --> 02:57:52,980
Then you've got to go in there with the nomadic roller, which is the one that's got about 20 tires

2539
02:57:54,200 --> 02:58:00,680
That they all do they're all necessary, but they all do different parts of the project

2540
02:58:00,680 --> 02:58:06,080
And it takes all of them together at the end, you'll have a pinch of rock.

2541
02:58:06,580 --> 02:58:09,180
So how have we been doing it without it?

2542
02:58:09,620 --> 02:58:15,080
We have, we have been, so what we bring, we're ready to quit.

2543
02:58:15,740 --> 02:58:18,960
Some of it, we have braces, we have a pneumatic rubber.

2544
02:58:19,340 --> 02:58:21,500
Look, it's a 2010 model.

2545
02:58:21,580 --> 02:58:23,740
That's one that all the tires were different sizes.

2546
02:58:24,080 --> 02:58:28,500
All the tires were different sizes, and it's data that they are,

2547
02:58:29,400 --> 02:58:31,780
So we can't get running anymore.

2548
02:58:32,400 --> 02:58:33,760
So that's one of the items we're purchasing.

2549
02:58:33,920 --> 02:58:35,460
Yes, one of the items we're purchasing.

2550
02:58:35,800 --> 02:58:36,080
Okay.

2551
02:58:36,300 --> 02:58:37,340
That's the nomadic road.

2552
02:58:39,220 --> 02:58:41,000
So are we going to get rid of the old one?

2553
02:58:41,620 --> 02:58:42,020
Yes.

2554
02:58:43,080 --> 02:58:44,340
Are we going to sell it or do we know it?

2555
02:58:44,400 --> 02:58:46,160
We certainly sell the option.

2556
02:58:48,630 --> 02:58:48,990
I don't know.

2557
02:58:49,490 --> 02:58:50,790
Because I did ask if we had this.

2558
02:58:50,950 --> 02:58:56,130
Well, we don't have a quick one that is used to it, right?

2559
02:58:59,340 --> 02:59:02,500
I'm not saying we don't be in that just what's curious how we were getting

2560
02:59:02,500 --> 02:59:03,440
by without it.

2561
02:59:03,540 --> 02:59:04,500
If we've been anywhere.

2562
02:59:05,540 --> 02:59:07,800
We've been whatever we don't have.

2563
02:59:08,100 --> 02:59:11,080
Whatever we're trying to buy now, we've been renting.

2564
02:59:11,800 --> 02:59:14,620
So once we buy this, what else do we still need to rent?

2565
02:59:16,100 --> 02:59:17,680
Probably another dump truck eventually.

2566
02:59:17,980 --> 02:59:18,780
But we can weigh it.

2567
02:59:19,760 --> 02:59:21,920
Because we just got a new one.

2568
02:59:22,320 --> 02:59:23,700
Why do we need another dump truck?

2569
02:59:23,900 --> 02:59:24,840
And why do we weigh it here?

2570
02:59:24,980 --> 02:59:28,320
Because you'll need, well, because I don't think we'll have to budget it.

2571
02:59:29,180 --> 02:59:36,700
And number two, we just got, we have little dump trucks that we can use, but eventually

2572
02:59:36,700 --> 02:59:42,680
when we start taking off on a road or whatever, it would be nice to have two able sites.

2573
02:59:42,900 --> 02:59:47,160
And I think, well, the biggest thing is this is that, because we're talking about the dump trucks

2574
02:59:47,160 --> 02:59:53,460
because when you're doing the espaltered conference, then you have to make sure the plan's up and right.

2575
02:59:54,040 --> 02:59:59,980
But if you have the gravel, then you don't have to ensure that there's a plan in operation.

2576
03:00:00,460 --> 03:00:17,760
That's all right, because there will go to the big contractor at your service. And then they speak, they don't put us in there where we can do. And, but, I have, how hard is one? Two of you are trying to go. Be grab it.

2577
03:00:20,700 --> 03:00:27,140
I couldn't tell you that it was just against you, it might last for two or three blocks to maybe

2578
03:00:27,140 --> 03:00:34,480
the block, you just been a witness to it, but so there he is, and we will be being another

2579
03:00:34,480 --> 03:00:40,420
doctor, but we can't continue with all we have, especially when we do hot mix, that stuff

2580
03:00:40,420 --> 03:00:43,740
that has to be like the name implies hot mix.

2581
03:00:44,120 --> 03:00:47,960
So you have to go get it hot and bring it in late.

2582
03:00:49,200 --> 03:00:51,960
So with two trucks, you can have one name

2583
03:00:51,960 --> 03:00:53,400
while the other gets a load.

2584
03:00:53,820 --> 03:00:55,460
When he gets here, this one's in,

2585
03:00:55,460 --> 03:00:57,200
and he can take off for another one,

2586
03:00:57,360 --> 03:01:00,620
then you can fill the other one, and then you can change it.

2587
03:01:01,540 --> 03:01:04,120
It's not good to go large-stop.

2588
03:01:04,780 --> 03:01:07,060
You want to try to get it as smooth.

2589
03:01:07,520 --> 03:01:08,820
So remember what this is?

2590
03:01:08,820 --> 03:01:12,640
We've been saying that we're going to do our own roads for how many years.

2591
03:01:13,160 --> 03:01:17,260
How many years have we been essentially, three years ago?

2592
03:01:17,560 --> 03:01:23,420
Three years ago, and we still don't essentially have all the equipment that we need to successfully do a job, right?

2593
03:01:23,800 --> 03:01:24,860
That's what I'm doing.

2594
03:01:25,600 --> 03:01:34,840
So I guess my one of which is why are we not doing, we've been doing this for three years when we could have already just been doing it.

2595
03:01:34,840 --> 03:01:42,640
These are capital investments, put them in, run them out in the expense and go a bit.

2596
03:01:43,020 --> 03:01:44,840
So that's how much is in the other dump truck?

2597
03:01:45,000 --> 03:01:46,060
What did we just spend?

2598
03:01:47,340 --> 03:01:47,820
155.

2599
03:01:48,620 --> 03:01:51,740
But that will come out of the street fund.

2600
03:01:51,780 --> 03:01:56,040
That comes out of the sample funds because you can't buy a dump truck to these funds.

2601
03:01:56,640 --> 03:01:57,120
Right.

2602
03:01:58,380 --> 03:02:03,500
Again, I guess what I'm going is, let's present this, let's put it in the budget and

2603
03:02:03,500 --> 03:02:07,840
So that we can function like we need to. There's no sense of keeping band-dating.

2604
03:02:08,480 --> 03:02:17,140
Yeah, if you recall, I believe it is proposed budget. There was this equipment too if this did not pass tonight.

2605
03:02:17,460 --> 03:02:17,620
Right.

2606
03:02:18,040 --> 03:02:20,240
So therefore, we can rearrange it.

2607
03:02:20,240 --> 03:02:21,560
But not about truck, right?

2608
03:02:22,000 --> 03:02:28,740
But what I'm saying is, if it's still tow rollers, take it out of this capital fund.

2609
03:02:29,060 --> 03:02:30,720
Now truck can be put in there now.

2610
03:02:30,720 --> 03:02:33,300
to make sure that we have the funding for everyone.

2611
03:02:33,740 --> 03:02:36,080
I think we're just saying why keep left along.

2612
03:02:37,140 --> 03:02:39,640
But if you're here late, I'm not a key to road.

2613
03:02:39,900 --> 03:02:42,500
We have five hours for the next stop mix.

2614
03:02:43,160 --> 03:02:46,280
So you need two so that you just keep rolling.

2615
03:02:46,540 --> 03:02:47,660
Why are we?

2616
03:02:47,680 --> 03:02:48,980
And a year will help you more.

2617
03:02:49,220 --> 03:02:49,940
We'll help you more.

2618
03:02:50,220 --> 03:02:52,600
Again, you're the most beat-up man in this town.

2619
03:02:53,280 --> 03:02:54,720
And you've got 99%.

2620
03:02:55,920 --> 03:02:57,440
You're 99% of the way there.

2621
03:02:57,780 --> 03:02:59,280
And then we're going to the three years.

2622
03:02:59,280 --> 03:03:04,480
Now we're going to go four of your five years before you get out of just that, you keep getting

2623
03:03:04,480 --> 03:03:10,280
shot on the foot area and I think that Jesse is trying to undo that right now and I think

2624
03:03:10,280 --> 03:03:11,800
he just is playing just what?

2625
03:03:12,440 --> 03:03:19,520
Yeah, and this thing is to, well, we get into a big project because we have hired other trucks

2626
03:03:19,520 --> 03:03:29,260
to come in to keep it rolling because that option is always there and if we look at and

2627
03:03:29,260 --> 03:03:35,000
for this one road project, we don't, we don't need four trucks in it. We will go ahead and

2628
03:03:35,000 --> 03:03:40,380
place them out and have another driver come in. Because you don't want over spend either and

2629
03:03:40,380 --> 03:03:45,800
have vehicle setting a route on our main needs. All right, what do we need to do on 15, right?

2630
03:03:45,940 --> 03:03:50,720
Right. I get, we got off a little bit, but essentially three lines down, we're going to go to

2631
03:03:50,720 --> 03:03:56,400
the budget. So, we're still, you're still on top of it here. Yeah, you're on 15, but we need to

2632
03:03:56,400 --> 03:03:57,560
we're talking about the application.

2633
03:03:58,920 --> 03:04:01,160
So for 15, that's all it is.

2634
03:04:01,420 --> 03:04:02,320
The application on the money.

2635
03:04:02,400 --> 03:04:04,760
What motion do you need to wait for the streets?

2636
03:04:05,280 --> 03:04:06,280
Because that, I'm confused.

2637
03:04:06,820 --> 03:04:08,100
What are the rules that are needed to be motion?

2638
03:04:08,720 --> 03:04:10,960
When are the motion to be to?

2639
03:04:11,100 --> 03:04:12,940
The list of motion, that's not what I decide.

2640
03:04:13,580 --> 03:04:14,100
That's right.

2641
03:04:14,460 --> 03:04:15,360
It was shit, right.

2642
03:04:16,460 --> 03:04:18,420
I thought that was just the stress level.

2643
03:04:18,500 --> 03:04:20,020
The legal actions are involved in that.

2644
03:04:20,020 --> 03:04:20,660
It's a deal.

2645
03:04:21,060 --> 03:04:23,880
But we can point it, just to find,

2646
03:04:23,880 --> 03:04:30,240
use in the street. So, 15th of about is just a clarification of the rules and plans.

2647
03:04:30,320 --> 03:04:31,740
That's exactly what it looks.

2648
03:04:31,940 --> 03:04:34,500
It's really, really nice. There's a little symposium on this.

2649
03:04:34,740 --> 03:04:37,520
All right. So, action on 15, I spoke to you 16, please.

2650
03:04:41,970 --> 03:04:47,390
Discussion consideration and possible action for city council to approve the purchase of a 2026

2651
03:04:48,150 --> 03:04:55,890
Booster, E 35, mechanical street sweeper through source while purchasing cooperative contract number

2652
03:04:55,890 --> 03:04:59,530
0-62425-DUC.

2653
03:05:00,470 --> 03:05:05,070
And I think one of the main things on this, if I make miracle chemists, that we look at

2654
03:05:05,070 --> 03:05:11,050
both mechanical and vacuum, and after we discussed it with the ones that have used the equipment

2655
03:05:11,050 --> 03:05:16,430
in this area, vacuum because of the sandy soil will not work therefore that's why we're

2656
03:05:18,690 --> 03:05:23,370
I'm just for clarification, these next few years is a result of them.

2657
03:05:23,530 --> 03:05:30,570
When I asked actually about it to the agenda, to the council, initially, all of this has been discussed for the need and everything else.

2658
03:05:30,570 --> 03:05:34,610
This is just the authorization that to fire up and what we discussed at the last meeting.

2659
03:05:35,350 --> 03:05:38,490
And each one of these is through some personally involved.

2660
03:05:40,850 --> 03:05:42,430
I'm going to go ahead if I may.

2661
03:05:43,590 --> 03:05:49,650
I'm going to make a motion that we, that we authorize the action to purchase of 2020-26.

2662
03:05:50,430 --> 03:05:51,950
Long, long, long, long, long as you're at one of the agenda.

2663
03:05:53,010 --> 03:05:53,250
All right.

2664
03:05:53,530 --> 03:05:54,070
We'll have a second.

2665
03:05:54,590 --> 03:05:54,890
I'll second.

2666
03:05:55,770 --> 03:05:57,350
Time motion by Mr. Gill's second.

2667
03:05:57,730 --> 03:05:58,710
Mr. Stewart.

2668
03:06:00,450 --> 03:06:01,430
Any further discussion?

2669
03:06:01,710 --> 03:06:01,990
Questions?

2670
03:06:05,220 --> 03:06:05,320
Let's see.

2671
03:06:05,480 --> 03:06:06,480
Nine more.

2672
03:06:06,580 --> 03:06:07,940
About our open book.

2673
03:06:10,200 --> 03:06:11,100
We can get it.

2674
03:06:12,040 --> 03:06:12,920
Eight more.

2675
03:06:13,200 --> 03:06:13,520
Yes.

2676
03:06:13,520 --> 03:06:20,940
And this is you do three man's photos, right?

2677
03:06:21,740 --> 03:06:21,800
Yes.

2678
03:06:22,800 --> 03:06:23,480
How should I say this?

2679
03:06:23,740 --> 03:06:24,360
You have it?

2680
03:06:24,520 --> 03:06:26,060
Every written on the agenda.

2681
03:06:28,020 --> 03:06:28,180
All right.

2682
03:06:28,420 --> 03:06:29,020
Close the loop.

2683
03:06:29,860 --> 03:06:29,960
All right.

2684
03:06:33,300 --> 03:06:34,340
Motion carries.

2685
03:06:35,480 --> 03:06:36,240
Close the loop.

2686
03:06:36,380 --> 03:06:36,700
Close the loop.

2687
03:06:37,880 --> 03:06:39,120
She watched the characters.

2688
03:06:40,360 --> 03:06:41,820
Sorry, it's getting late for me.

2689
03:06:43,300 --> 03:06:43,740
I don't know.

2690
03:06:43,760 --> 03:06:44,480
I'm 17, please.

2691
03:06:47,570 --> 03:06:48,610
Discussion consideration.

2692
03:06:48,610 --> 03:06:56,890
and possible action for City Council to approve the purchase of a Donapac CC 1300 Comtac

2693
03:06:56,890 --> 03:07:02,410
tandem roller-through by board purchasing cooperative contract number 788S25.

2694
03:07:05,740 --> 03:07:07,800
They make a move.

2695
03:07:08,140 --> 03:07:10,600
I think you can head just because of the same as before.

2696
03:07:10,960 --> 03:07:13,560
Make a motion to the purchase.

2697
03:07:14,080 --> 03:07:17,980
As we just discussed at the peak, this can't be the compact hand.

2698
03:07:18,620 --> 03:07:20,860
With a low as written on the agenda.

2699
03:07:21,280 --> 03:07:22,420
Okay, motion to the second.

2700
03:07:22,800 --> 03:07:23,660
That's the second.

2701
03:07:23,860 --> 03:07:24,160
Second.

2702
03:07:24,540 --> 03:07:24,700
Second.

2703
03:07:24,700 --> 03:07:24,720
Second.

2704
03:07:25,940 --> 03:07:26,500
Second.

2705
03:07:30,000 --> 03:07:35,740
Mr. Zimmerman, motion by Mr. Gill, please. Any discussion about discussion?

2706
03:07:36,400 --> 03:07:40,600
This area is as unique to our standards, a hundred and ten percent. She's going.

2707
03:07:41,340 --> 03:07:47,140
Okay, that would be my question for all of you. It's not. It's not. It's a big step ahead.

2708
03:07:49,080 --> 03:07:50,840
Also, it's everything for any of you.

2709
03:07:50,880 --> 03:07:51,160
Yes.

2710
03:07:51,480 --> 03:07:51,860
Thank you.

2711
03:07:51,860 --> 03:07:56,040
and this has gotten two years of 2,000 hours of manufacturing warranty.

2712
03:08:01,020 --> 03:08:05,300
I'm going to ask the manager out through his staff to ensure proper maintenance and

2713
03:08:05,300 --> 03:08:09,600
any maintenance category of contracts that may be needed in the association, because in the long

2714
03:08:09,600 --> 03:08:11,800
line, maintenance contracts you save money.

2715
03:08:12,560 --> 03:08:13,880
Thank you.

2716
03:08:14,460 --> 03:08:14,940
All right.

2717
03:08:15,100 --> 03:08:15,160
The other.

2718
03:08:15,160 --> 03:08:16,540
And that will be tied to the previous.

2719
03:09:01,610 --> 03:09:02,690
All right.

2720
03:09:03,550 --> 03:09:04,430
This is what the two are.

2721
03:09:04,430 --> 03:09:08,570
That's a very reasonable action for City Council to approve the purchase of a Donna

2722
03:09:08,570 --> 03:09:14,210
Pax EP 1200 pneumatic tire roller through the source valve purchasing whalperative number

2723
03:09:17,710 --> 03:09:18,790
060122-DYN.

2724
03:09:18,970 --> 03:09:22,530
What should you do for you guys written by his representative about staff?

2725
03:09:23,710 --> 03:09:24,250
Motion by.

2726
03:09:24,310 --> 03:09:26,550
Should you do second half of this for Blanco?

2727
03:09:27,950 --> 03:09:29,250
Does that have all the tires the same?

2728
03:09:31,790 --> 03:09:32,950
That's great.

2729
03:09:33,510 --> 03:09:34,130
We're going to go.

2730
03:09:35,470 --> 03:09:36,750
Same comments.

2731
03:09:37,190 --> 03:09:40,190
We have maintenance prepared for this equipment.

2732
03:09:40,510 --> 03:09:41,370
Oh, yes.

2733
03:09:41,970 --> 03:09:43,870
Any other questions, discussion?

2734
03:09:45,350 --> 03:09:46,970
I'll see you then.

2735
03:09:47,490 --> 03:09:48,590
Open the vote.

2736
03:09:54,320 --> 03:09:55,280
He doesn't want to play this.

2737
03:09:57,040 --> 03:09:58,320
Any comments?

2738
03:10:02,660 --> 03:10:02,840
All right.

2739
03:10:02,960 --> 03:10:03,860
Close the vote, please.

2740
03:10:05,370 --> 03:10:07,350
Motion carries.

2741
03:10:17,290 --> 03:10:33,370
Discussion consideration and possible action for the city council to approve the purchase of a M1 heated hose crack sealer machine through the source flow partition cooperative source flow contract number zero five zero six two dash CME.

2742
03:10:47,600 --> 03:10:52,740
The second one is to deal with any other discussion question that you have just one last question.

2743
03:10:53,220 --> 03:10:55,920
It's coming from Spicewood, Texas.

2744
03:10:56,660 --> 03:10:58,000
That's what it's first and foremost.

2745
03:11:01,320 --> 03:11:03,280
Texas, what's the weird?

2746
03:11:03,860 --> 03:11:12,740
Just a kind of curious, is it worth our time and labor to pick it up and travel it down here versus 50,

2747
03:11:12,740 --> 03:11:20,240
about to ship her since it does have wheels and we have to pick up truck and I'm just you know I've got to place somebody

2748
03:11:20,240 --> 03:11:26,740
every bus an hour drive to where the x-pice would is a back versus paying somebody 50 on bus like

2749
03:11:26,740 --> 03:11:41,440
Dallas the weird what's uh it should be a problem which is it wasn't awesome but I don't know

2750
03:11:41,440 --> 03:11:48,260
Thanks 50 out of bucks and pay some labor and lunch to pick it up that'd be

2751
03:11:50,920 --> 03:11:52,160
Where's your truck?

2752
03:11:54,700 --> 03:11:58,540
Very very. Yeah, we have a question and second right?

2753
03:11:58,560 --> 03:12:00,620
Yeah, I wrote an other discussion

2754
03:12:01,800 --> 03:12:02,580
He's down.

2755
03:12:03,920 --> 03:12:05,900
We'll get that to stop for the tickets.

2756
03:12:06,780 --> 03:12:09,160
All right, open the boat please.

2757
03:12:21,330 --> 03:12:22,230
I don't know.

2758
03:12:25,020 --> 03:12:25,900
Close the book, please.

2759
03:12:28,890 --> 03:12:29,810
Motion carries.

2760
03:12:31,010 --> 03:12:31,690
Okay.

2761
03:12:31,810 --> 03:12:32,270
I have 20.

2762
03:12:33,910 --> 03:12:48,130
Discussion consideration and possible action for the City Council to authorize the City Manager to negotiate and enter into an agreement with have associate's ink for the design being administering a maintenance contract for the elevated storage tanks.

2763
03:12:53,800 --> 03:12:59,740
So, as part of our GCP, the L.A. storage sites are in our disk and the use system must have

2764
03:12:59,740 --> 03:13:05,180
minus stuff to them every five years. Right now, we have three of our L.A. storage

2765
03:13:05,180 --> 03:13:12,140
sites are due to this minus. However, we have only two that are in operation. And this

2766
03:13:12,140 --> 03:13:17,540
is the ones that we are requesting. We gave you a lot of our keys on the plant vids, also

2767
03:13:17,540 --> 03:13:23,900
to the paper. We did receive several RF keys from a 12-fighting

2768
03:13:23,900 --> 03:13:30,360
engineers. We are recommending, after the evaluation was done by staff members,

2769
03:13:31,420 --> 03:13:36,360
that we cast off for us the manager to negotiate an air into an agreement

2770
03:13:36,360 --> 03:13:40,820
for the maintenance of contracts that they'll feed storage tanks with half of the

2771
03:13:40,820 --> 03:13:44,700
associates, and we do have a representative of staff sitting here in the

2772
03:13:44,700 --> 03:13:47,440
back for O, if anyone has any questions?

2773
03:13:48,800 --> 03:13:49,880
Thanks for sticking with us.

2774
03:13:50,080 --> 03:13:50,740
Very late meeting.

2775
03:13:53,280 --> 03:13:57,720
I mean, any comments or any questions from Council for a message?

2776
03:13:58,180 --> 03:14:01,080
Any turn on playing external playing combination too?

2777
03:14:01,360 --> 03:14:03,020
There's a law of maintenance there.

2778
03:14:03,480 --> 03:14:07,660
And the third one I guess is just kind of down for a while.

2779
03:14:07,840 --> 03:14:14,180
The third one was damaged in Harvey and at that time when the city received funding

2780
03:14:14,180 --> 03:14:17,080
to put it back in the service that bought beef at this.

2781
03:14:20,150 --> 03:14:20,170
Mm-hmm.

2782
03:14:20,210 --> 03:14:20,950
Say it again?

2783
03:14:21,150 --> 03:14:21,830
Yeah, what?

2784
03:14:22,850 --> 03:14:23,770
And it bought beef.

2785
03:14:24,110 --> 03:14:24,470
Yes.

2786
03:14:24,910 --> 03:14:26,290
Say it again, Dr. Narkin?

2787
03:14:27,330 --> 03:14:28,230
Say that again, please.

2788
03:14:28,250 --> 03:14:33,030
Say it, in 2017, from the, uh, from the, uh, after Harvey,

2789
03:14:33,630 --> 03:14:36,150
that tank was out, uh, tank was out, uh, tank was out of service.

2790
03:14:37,010 --> 03:14:39,450
And to put it back into service,

2791
03:14:40,230 --> 03:14:44,550
if, uh, the money was expended on, uh,

2792
03:14:46,210 --> 03:14:51,470
Also because of that, because where the new wastewater treatment plant is, we have to wait

2793
03:14:51,470 --> 03:14:56,050
and I'm sure where the drying beds are now, to ensure that they're far enough from

2794
03:14:56,050 --> 03:14:58,990
the tank itself, so that the...

2795
03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:12,240
From May, did we get any money on the ensures that it was specifically about any correspondence of record or anything that we should have used that money for that discomfort.

2796
03:15:13,840 --> 03:15:19,800
Because we did say we got insurance money and we used it for something else. I'm forced to clarify that.

2797
03:15:19,800 --> 03:15:30,960
Yes, I said yesterday that yes, we did, the action was at that time yes, we might want to be careful about that in the future

2798
03:15:30,960 --> 03:15:46,100
We get insurance money, yes, and we didn't, we used it as, you see, yeah, so, we wanted to bridge out, but yes, that's what we do is something that was ready to the record

2799
03:15:46,100 --> 03:15:49,380
And to say, 2020 on the site, but let's

2800
03:15:49,920 --> 03:15:51,860
adopt you, we have another situation.

2801
03:15:52,200 --> 03:15:53,580
We use my phone to receive.

2802
03:15:53,860 --> 03:15:55,100
Thank you.

2803
03:15:55,100 --> 03:15:55,120
Thank you.

2804
03:15:55,340 --> 03:15:56,140
Thank you.

2805
03:15:56,560 --> 03:15:57,000
Thank you.

2806
03:15:58,300 --> 03:16:01,260
Half-stop is to get a dollar figure.

2807
03:16:01,800 --> 03:16:08,340
Half-stop has responsibility will be to address specifications and

2808
03:16:09,540 --> 03:16:13,560
issue the mid-dog events and then review the business and come back in the

2809
03:16:14,260 --> 03:16:20,060
on and we're going to be able to come back to Council before it's finished.

2810
03:16:23,290 --> 03:16:28,290
And this project is budgeted in the budget for the capital projects.

2811
03:16:32,310 --> 03:16:36,310
And proposals that we got back are all within that budget.

2812
03:16:37,010 --> 03:16:39,570
So, well, we have not got any in the budget.

2813
03:16:41,270 --> 03:16:43,610
So, this is for the engineer.

2814
03:16:45,550 --> 03:16:46,590
Any other questions?

2815
03:16:49,570 --> 03:16:58,050
So just for clarification, explain the RQ evaluation which is to me.

2816
03:17:02,880 --> 03:17:08,420
It was a lady on the actual RQ.

2817
03:17:08,420 --> 03:17:18,400
There was a point system, a sign, like for the capacity to form, experience with this

2818
03:17:18,400 --> 03:17:22,620
particular type of board, and I don't have it in front of you.

2819
03:17:22,640 --> 03:17:24,660
I don't remember, it was 4 categories.

2820
03:17:25,800 --> 03:17:32,980
So we got all the SOQs, and the staff that was put together to evaluate them, we went

2821
03:17:32,980 --> 03:17:42,440
there and based on those criteria, they were assigned a certain point that each SLQ that was received.

2822
03:17:43,440 --> 03:17:49,380
Then they were all told and averaged and happened associated under here.

2823
03:17:49,380 --> 03:17:50,120
We're here.

2824
03:17:50,740 --> 03:17:50,760
Yes.

2825
03:17:50,760 --> 03:17:51,580
That's just gorgeous.

2826
03:17:52,040 --> 03:17:52,420
So just cool.

2827
03:17:52,420 --> 03:17:53,480
We all do it together.

2828
03:17:54,420 --> 03:17:54,520
Yes.

2829
03:17:56,880 --> 03:17:57,340
Okay.

2830
03:17:58,240 --> 03:18:08,740
We said during discuss the responses, who companies are, some people have experience with

2831
03:18:08,740 --> 03:18:13,740
these companies, some people have never heard of them, so we discuss, you know, well, I'm

2832
03:18:13,740 --> 03:18:18,420
working with them here and like done this and that, whatever, aside from what they actually

2833
03:18:18,420 --> 03:18:24,480
We wrote on their SOQ as far as their abilities.

2834
03:18:25,400 --> 03:18:32,140
We take all of that into consideration, and then we give them based on our judgment to give

2835
03:18:33,020 --> 03:18:39,340
them a point score, and then like I said, they're added up in their average, and then whoever

2836
03:18:39,340 --> 03:18:41,660
sport to highest is the one we recommend.

2837
03:18:41,660 --> 03:18:49,900
And essentially it would be the same as if you were doing an air people or a boy, a proposition

2838
03:18:49,900 --> 03:18:56,660
after the engineers, or the people that are used, are not yes, the right.

2839
03:18:57,760 --> 03:19:00,360
So it's all of everyone's opinion and have a discussion.

2840
03:19:01,420 --> 03:19:01,700
Okay,

2841
03:19:04,260 --> 03:19:06,380
so like I say, I'll didn't know if I'm saying anybody.

2842
03:19:06,380 --> 03:19:12,380
But are these people qualified to do this process?

2843
03:19:13,380 --> 03:19:13,900
Yes.

2844
03:19:14,720 --> 03:19:17,340
He met us that were doing the qualifications.

2845
03:19:18,260 --> 03:19:18,820
And discussing?

2846
03:19:19,300 --> 03:19:19,980
Yes.

2847
03:19:20,400 --> 03:19:20,520
Yes.

2848
03:19:20,640 --> 03:19:24,220
Because when you're discussing what was presented,

2849
03:19:24,660 --> 03:19:27,080
and you're saying that in their opinion,

2850
03:19:27,960 --> 03:19:31,220
are the opinion that they did meet the qualifications

2851
03:19:31,220 --> 03:19:33,020
or if they exceeded them?

2852
03:19:33,020 --> 03:19:39,980
It's reading the documents with RP, and it's like, yes, they are qualified as they had five

2853
03:19:39,980 --> 03:19:44,900
engineers that have the ability to pre-half water.

2854
03:19:45,580 --> 03:19:54,340
And they look at the projects they've done, and so it's in front of them as to what they

2855
03:19:54,340 --> 03:19:58,780
feel like they're from that RP provider as those qualifications.

2856
03:19:58,780 --> 03:20:03,580
So, when they go through the scoring, they have to look at, as a very sit.

2857
03:20:03,960 --> 03:20:05,500
How many projects have they done?

2858
03:20:05,860 --> 03:20:06,960
You look at references.

2859
03:20:07,680 --> 03:20:13,280
Now, you look at the engineers on the project and then you determine whether they are

2860
03:20:13,280 --> 03:20:18,320
understand, over-sat, or which one is best performed, what's required.

2861
03:20:19,480 --> 03:20:24,480
How we done business with any of these people or all of these people?

2862
03:20:27,100 --> 03:20:34,580
We have used ladies and gentlemen and I've had a good business with passenger systems.

2863
03:20:35,260 --> 03:20:41,680
And I've done business with people down a little bit, trying to see the maintenance.

2864
03:20:50,400 --> 03:21:09,600
I think I've viewed a day before when I was in Mathis, I know about them, and they're out of college, I'm trying, I've never worked with them, but based on what they submitted, that's what they're writing.

2865
03:21:09,600 --> 03:21:16,980
And like he said, we work, we live in engineering before, and I worked in that.

2866
03:21:17,280 --> 03:21:19,660
Just for context, there are a lot of this on the process.

2867
03:21:19,920 --> 03:21:28,900
When you select engineers, you go for qualifications, you rent, and then you get negotiations with the top rent firm,

2868
03:21:29,160 --> 03:21:30,020
but that's most qualified.

2869
03:21:31,680 --> 03:21:35,960
And if you don't negotiate a contract with that, then you move it out to the next year.

2870
03:21:43,230 --> 03:21:45,890
But it's not specific of sport systems.

2871
03:21:46,490 --> 03:21:47,350
It's a general process.

2872
03:21:47,890 --> 03:21:49,310
It's a regular small part.

2873
03:21:49,630 --> 03:21:50,890
Then you can select them.

2874
03:21:50,910 --> 03:21:51,650
You can get to those stations.

2875
03:21:52,670 --> 03:21:53,230
You don't succeed.

2876
03:21:53,490 --> 03:21:56,310
You work your way down to the next firm.

2877
03:21:56,430 --> 03:21:57,130
Let's go to the next one.

2878
03:21:58,250 --> 03:21:59,290
That's just a general.

2879
03:21:59,630 --> 03:21:59,970
It's possible.

2880
03:22:01,590 --> 03:22:03,490
At this point, we're still.

2881
03:22:04,170 --> 03:22:07,330
This action is only for negotiating with the top.

2882
03:22:12,040 --> 03:22:16,300
So we're just pointing into negotiations. This is not an approval of anything.

2883
03:22:30,000 --> 03:22:39,320
Also, if we can now reach agreement to be presented back to the council, we'll go to the next one.

2884
03:22:41,520 --> 03:22:48,160
Any other questions? Good? No, it's still. All right, do we have a motion?

2885
03:22:50,400 --> 03:22:51,880
So, I'd like to motion.

2886
03:22:54,550 --> 03:22:59,790
Aye, agenda 20 is ready. Well, let's see what we can begin.

2887
03:23:00,210 --> 03:23:03,430
I would say, because of the way it's just entering to an agreement.

2888
03:23:03,430 --> 03:23:11,890
So it would just be all for a city manager to the coach and maybe not a job for a city manager to negotiate with

2889
03:23:12,430 --> 03:23:14,370
half the socios

2890
03:23:15,880 --> 03:23:17,800
for water tanks

2891
03:23:17,800 --> 03:23:19,860
and then this contract

2892
03:23:19,860 --> 03:23:21,580
a larger business

2893
03:23:21,580 --> 03:23:22,700
design

2894
03:23:22,700 --> 03:23:24,540
for the future

2895
03:23:24,540 --> 03:23:25,700
my second

2896
03:23:25,700 --> 03:23:27,420
thank you much a minister

2897
03:23:27,420 --> 03:23:28,440
go to the second

2898
03:23:28,440 --> 03:23:29,400
I have a statement.

2899
03:23:30,880 --> 03:23:31,720
Any further discussion?

2900
03:23:32,480 --> 03:23:33,780
It does say that.

2901
03:23:35,780 --> 03:23:37,060
I have a command city council.

2902
03:23:37,300 --> 03:23:39,020
I have someone who is like an attorney.

2903
03:23:40,600 --> 03:23:41,660
Negotiate and entered.

2904
03:23:42,120 --> 03:23:43,220
Yeah, I don't know there if I want.

2905
03:23:43,400 --> 03:23:44,620
They will see it.

2906
03:23:47,000 --> 03:23:48,300
Any other discussion?

2907
03:23:49,000 --> 03:23:49,740
I don't know.

2908
03:24:05,050 --> 03:24:06,090
Motion carries.

2909
03:24:11,000 --> 03:24:11,500
21.

2910
03:24:11,500 --> 03:24:12,780
The

2911
03:24:14,890 --> 03:24:35,610
discussion consideration and possible action to award the request for proposals for professional audit services for the city of Ingolzada annual financial reports for the physical years and then ended September 30 at 26 and September 30 at 27 with the option of September 30 at 28.

2912
03:24:35,610 --> 03:24:36,630
Okay,

2913
03:24:40,150 --> 03:24:44,950
so that we did, the State College of Request was a positive and a faithful officer

2914
03:24:44,950 --> 03:24:48,630
since the fiscal year is listed on the agenda.

2915
03:24:50,030 --> 03:24:58,150
We did receive two proposals and then the repeat, the repeat team consisted of a self

2916
03:24:58,150 --> 03:25:07,970
and a financial sector, a system-driven finance, and after speaking with the two proposals,

2917
03:25:09,550 --> 03:25:16,790
that you do have before either one that we're going to be opposed, which is the VIP that is the firm that we have at this time.

2918
03:25:17,170 --> 03:25:26,350
As you know, we've stated that the charter says to go out every three years for proposals and also for general accounting purposes.

2919
03:25:26,350 --> 03:25:37,790
You want to have an audit team that the audit team that should, that comes in to perform the audit is different than the audit team that was here in the year before.

2920
03:25:37,790 --> 03:25:47,590
Also, in this situation, the supervisor of this auto team does no longer point by ABIP, so that the lead

2921
03:25:47,590 --> 03:25:51,910
auto will know if not be the same once and we do have a change in the team.

2922
03:25:52,290 --> 03:25:58,670
We are keeping the same partner hours where we are making recommendation to enter into

2923
03:25:58,670 --> 03:26:05,370
an agreement with ABIP, or the two-year period with an option for the third.

2924
03:26:11,180 --> 03:26:12,840
Mr. Carl's to tell him.

2925
03:26:12,840 --> 03:26:14,320
Oh, what? Oh, he was back.

2926
03:26:14,840 --> 03:26:15,360
It's basically...

2927
03:26:16,060 --> 03:26:18,300
It's a date of the first year since you were in the second.

2928
03:26:19,000 --> 03:26:20,560
Then one of the very obvious things, right?

2929
03:26:20,880 --> 03:26:22,580
What was it to last two years?

2930
03:26:22,800 --> 03:26:23,360
Carl's telling me.

2931
03:26:23,800 --> 03:26:24,040
Oh, Lily.

2932
03:26:25,820 --> 03:26:26,960
I'm just getting it on the record.

2933
03:26:27,160 --> 03:26:27,820
It's no real record.

2934
03:26:27,900 --> 03:26:29,880
Yeah, this year was a grand run for days long.

2935
03:26:30,680 --> 03:26:32,240
And this is what the staff's comfortable with it.

2936
03:26:32,280 --> 03:26:33,080
Well, we are.

2937
03:26:33,500 --> 03:26:35,940
We have, they have been very good editing.

2938
03:26:37,040 --> 03:26:37,920
Also, as you can see,

2939
03:26:37,920 --> 03:26:44,500
In my little talk about single audit, if there is one part, we have had a single audit, there's one piece in there.

2940
03:26:44,800 --> 03:26:57,440
My personal opinion is, you are the experts on this, if you come to this council and say, this is your comfortable, that they provide it, a qualified audit, that is, if I'm certain, I'm not going to argue with that.

2941
03:26:59,560 --> 03:27:00,580
Any other questions?

2942
03:27:11,040 --> 03:27:19,340
So, this is the same procedure as the other one we said that the review team.

2943
03:27:19,640 --> 03:27:21,900
Well, there is a review team.

2944
03:27:22,320 --> 03:27:30,340
Well, we received two proposals that also, because we can ask for a fee on this one.

2945
03:27:30,660 --> 03:27:35,080
And that's what we received from the VIP and also the other energy.

2946
03:27:35,880 --> 03:27:38,100
This is one that was best for the city.

2947
03:27:38,100 --> 03:27:41,700
Now, on the engineers, that's an RF key.

2948
03:27:42,040 --> 03:27:45,120
So engineers are just looking on qualifications and not a privacy.

2949
03:27:45,120 --> 03:27:47,600
They can't ask for privacy, but engineers are attached.

2950
03:27:47,940 --> 03:27:50,480
So if you have a professional questions that are included in that,

2951
03:27:50,960 --> 03:27:52,420
then as you can actually go to proposals,

2952
03:27:52,980 --> 03:27:54,180
they'll give you the price.

2953
03:27:55,100 --> 03:27:57,200
And so you can price it back for them to make it up.

2954
03:27:57,320 --> 03:27:57,940
That's the option.

2955
03:27:58,300 --> 03:28:02,460
Right, and then you can determine whether you're receiving the services you need for that price.

2956
03:28:10,310 --> 03:28:12,590
You can just over-firm and can be complicated.

2957
03:28:12,590 --> 03:28:15,510
If you have any questions,

2958
03:28:18,440 --> 03:28:21,180
I'd like to ask you one if you'd like to do anything.

2959
03:28:21,180 --> 03:28:21,680
Then I'd like to ask you one if you send me an hour or two.

2960
03:28:23,060 --> 03:28:28,100
I'll make a motion, I'd like to ask you one if you'd want to circle around.

2961
03:28:28,100 --> 03:28:31,480
So I'm going to ask you one if you want to see the other one.

2962
03:28:34,580 --> 03:28:38,280
Get on the floor,

2963
03:28:40,960 --> 03:28:41,860
I'd want to ask you one on the floor.

2964
03:28:41,860 --> 03:28:44,580
Well, what's that?

2965
03:28:44,960 --> 03:28:45,600
They have to put those.

2966
03:28:46,700 --> 03:28:47,300
Not at all.

2967
03:28:48,700 --> 03:28:49,700
Oh, no, no more questions.

2968
03:28:51,480 --> 03:28:56,560
If we choose not to continue to your contract, what are we going to?

2969
03:28:57,180 --> 03:28:57,580
All right.

2970
03:28:58,000 --> 03:29:01,420
Okay, so this is, I said, and can have the third year.

2971
03:29:01,980 --> 03:29:09,080
Therefore, if the castle decides to change haunting things or firms within after the second year,

2972
03:29:09,280 --> 03:29:10,720
and go out and post it again.

2973
03:29:10,720 --> 03:29:12,440
But for the second year.

2974
03:29:12,640 --> 03:29:14,860
Well, this is to your contract.

2975
03:29:15,960 --> 03:29:16,400
Correct.

2976
03:29:17,360 --> 03:29:18,180
So, I mean,

2977
03:29:18,300 --> 03:29:20,260
we just break the contract.

2978
03:29:20,340 --> 03:29:22,500
Yeah, we can't talk about breaking the contract.

2979
03:29:22,960 --> 03:29:24,700
So I'm just curious what it is for this too.

2980
03:29:25,640 --> 03:29:28,180
We're not with this, but we just had a whole discussion

2981
03:29:28,180 --> 03:29:29,500
about breaking a block contract.

2982
03:29:29,520 --> 03:29:30,120
That's right.

2983
03:29:30,280 --> 03:29:32,360
I'd like to know what this entails.

2984
03:29:35,920 --> 03:29:39,320
You know, I have never seen that happen in an auditor,

2985
03:29:40,220 --> 03:29:42,140
but breaking the contract in an auditor,

2986
03:29:43,300 --> 03:29:50,300
I mean that, I guess we would have to look into that, see, that would be through returning.

2987
03:29:50,480 --> 03:29:54,180
We would have to look contract and see what happens when we're something like that.

2988
03:29:54,800 --> 03:29:59,320
But generally, that's not a good contract to break without a significant reason to be so.

2989
03:30:00,000 --> 03:30:04,240
We want to add a bit of question to what we would take first to get out of this.

2990
03:30:04,300 --> 03:30:06,180
Yeah, I think that would be something you're turning into.

2991
03:30:06,720 --> 03:30:12,200
Yeah, and I would equate to that we were under an agreement with another service.

2992
03:30:13,180 --> 03:30:15,980
And because of the service, that is a mutual splitting.

2993
03:30:18,380 --> 03:30:20,460
I think about the service we requested.

2994
03:30:21,320 --> 03:30:24,180
Is that in this proposal like that?

2995
03:30:24,380 --> 03:30:28,220
No, that proposal says we are playing on the head in the for two years.

2996
03:30:28,220 --> 03:30:30,700
we've had experience with the situation.

2997
03:30:33,040 --> 03:30:36,260
Oh, okay, once again, you've raised an issue now.

2998
03:30:37,620 --> 03:30:38,640
You said it on record.

2999
03:30:39,480 --> 03:30:40,460
What was the problem?

3000
03:30:42,240 --> 03:30:43,940
You said it was an issue.

3001
03:30:44,300 --> 03:30:46,020
Well, with another service provider,

3002
03:30:46,320 --> 03:30:47,320
not through it, I can.

3003
03:30:48,620 --> 03:30:50,860
Oh, okay, you're going to take a question.

3004
03:30:50,980 --> 03:30:51,740
You can't say it.

3005
03:30:51,800 --> 03:30:53,820
OK, I just want to clarify.

3006
03:30:54,780 --> 03:30:57,440
Make sure that we weren't slamming another order.

3007
03:30:57,620 --> 03:30:58,440
No, no, no.

3008
03:30:58,440 --> 03:31:00,340
No, it was another agreement.

3009
03:31:00,340 --> 03:31:06,380
I just wanted to clarify that on the way so we have motion in the second already.

3010
03:31:08,020 --> 03:31:13,880
We need the motion in the second that did not specify from there.

3011
03:31:14,700 --> 03:31:24,940
I was going to ask if council would send it to provisions in there for any kind of cancellation

3012
03:31:24,940 --> 03:31:28,200
or mutual cancellation or whatever you want to say.

3013
03:31:30,800 --> 03:31:34,560
It would take you tremendous, I'm just speaking from experience.

3014
03:31:36,620 --> 03:31:40,680
That's one question that I will, even I will say, has never come up with that one.

3015
03:31:40,680 --> 03:31:46,860
It would take, and God, you know, we'll take a statutory legal reason that there was fraud.

3016
03:31:47,600 --> 03:31:51,200
That's about the only way you would ever do that.

3017
03:31:51,500 --> 03:31:56,960
Because you just have, you really didn't really have to go to the contract with hell.

3018
03:31:57,540 --> 03:32:04,960
And the thing is that our charter is act is let has a less time frame than most chargers.

3019
03:32:05,700 --> 03:32:05,980
Yeah.

3020
03:32:06,040 --> 03:32:15,160
Most ought to be firm for three to five years because you pick it off through that knows your books

3021
03:32:15,160 --> 03:32:16,560
and they might get it.

3022
03:32:16,640 --> 03:32:17,240
Thank you Kevin.

3023
03:32:17,500 --> 03:32:19,360
So we're not going on in June again.

3024
03:32:21,080 --> 03:32:26,360
But the thing here is you can get a relationship there and ensure the number one thing is

3025
03:32:26,360 --> 03:32:32,160
is that you know the firm can provide to services and you also are aware that they know that

3026
03:32:32,160 --> 03:32:38,920
they need to change their employees that are here on a year of devices which I have.

3027
03:32:40,280 --> 03:32:45,800
Well, and also you have a fresh set of eyes looking at it every year, but you still have

3028
03:32:45,800 --> 03:32:51,740
the same firm because then you don't have to have to go back and re-invent the wheel every

3029
03:32:51,740 --> 03:33:02,120
If I could amplify, we have a situation where we did, we had a situation where we had to at the end of the term,

3030
03:33:02,940 --> 03:33:11,280
that very issue came up. There was no stability. And in order to anybody's efforts, the harder it knows, they've got a very good memory.

3031
03:33:11,560 --> 03:33:16,800
And they know what red flags to look forward when it comes time to odds.

3032
03:33:16,800 --> 03:33:24,320
And so you won't want that stability big time because they will find things that we suspected

3033
03:33:24,320 --> 03:33:30,380
but we didn't have proof that that actually happened to the city one time.

3034
03:33:33,550 --> 03:33:37,910
I'm just going to say one more thing. Sometimes stability causes complacency.

3035
03:33:39,230 --> 03:33:41,950
That's why I made the statement that I made.

3036
03:33:42,430 --> 03:33:47,610
So, no, it's about us, but it's just, you know, and we're kind of

3037
03:33:47,610 --> 03:33:50,110
contradicting ourselves because we're saying we want to stay

3038
03:33:50,110 --> 03:33:56,530
complacent with the same team because they know, you know, our system, but at the same time we're

3039
03:33:56,530 --> 03:34:01,030
also saying we have to get it, we get an order every year so that we don't have the same person looking at

3040
03:34:01,030 --> 03:34:05,690
our books. So, it's the same firm with different teams. Right. Yeah, I think you have to think that

3041
03:34:05,690 --> 03:34:10,110
This auditing firm has been the last three years.

3042
03:34:10,790 --> 03:34:12,650
We had a different auditor before then.

3043
03:34:13,710 --> 03:34:16,370
How long did it just prepare the new council member?

3044
03:34:16,490 --> 03:34:19,870
How long was that previous auditing or audit firm here?

3045
03:34:20,010 --> 03:34:21,070
15, 20 years?

3046
03:34:23,730 --> 03:34:29,970
And, and, and, and, and, and, and, and we have to go out and find a new team and, and, and, and,

3047
03:34:29,970 --> 03:34:35,570
the, the auditor did not even provide a proposal to us, and, and, and, must

3048
03:34:35,570 --> 03:34:43,530
in three years by the charter it says we have to go out again and I can't say what's

3049
03:34:43,530 --> 03:34:50,350
going to happen there in three years might be times change right I'm just okay so I

3050
03:34:50,970 --> 03:34:55,170
lost the discussion here so we have a motion in a second I don't know if the motion

3051
03:34:55,170 --> 03:35:01,010
in Genesis was appear on who you guys are picking I also didn't hear if you might be

3052
03:35:01,010 --> 03:35:03,210
original second.

3053
03:35:03,490 --> 03:35:04,430
So we have a motion.

3054
03:35:04,650 --> 03:35:06,470
We have a motion.

3055
03:35:07,150 --> 03:35:08,850
I think we'll do it.

3056
03:35:09,030 --> 03:35:09,750
We made the motion.

3057
03:35:10,450 --> 03:35:12,290
What are we going to do?

3058
03:35:13,130 --> 03:35:15,850
I will leave it.

3059
03:35:16,270 --> 03:35:18,130
I will leave it.

3060
03:35:18,130 --> 03:35:18,750
Just a minute.

3061
03:35:19,110 --> 03:35:20,470
Motion to include a VIP.

3062
03:35:21,310 --> 03:35:21,670
Yeah, man.

3063
03:35:21,990 --> 03:35:24,710
Motion to include a VIP.

3064
03:35:27,030 --> 03:35:27,510
All right.

3065
03:35:27,510 --> 03:35:30,970
I'll check it.

3066
03:35:30,970 --> 03:35:31,590
I'll check it.

3067
03:35:31,590 --> 03:35:33,390
Okay, second by Mr. Flanco.

3068
03:35:35,010 --> 03:35:35,190
Yes.

3069
03:35:36,130 --> 03:35:38,090
Any other questions or excuses?

3070
03:35:40,950 --> 03:35:43,670
All right, open the book please.

3071
03:35:47,530 --> 03:35:48,270
Oh, God.

3072
03:35:54,190 --> 03:35:55,390
Motion carries.

3073
03:35:55,390 --> 03:35:56,030
I

3074
03:35:59,610 --> 03:36:01,790
just want to give you a question.

3075
03:36:01,790 --> 03:36:09,990
Discussion consideration and possible action from the City Council on a second draft of this clear twenty twenty six twenty seven budget.

3076
03:36:11,590 --> 03:36:12,830
I want to be a world of the truth.

3077
03:36:14,870 --> 03:36:17,330
Or the truth city, they don't go anywhere.

3078
03:36:18,670 --> 03:36:19,790
We're very cyclone.

3079
03:36:20,070 --> 03:36:21,090
We have the brain division.

3080
03:36:21,870 --> 03:36:29,440
All right, it was so five minutes, five or ten minutes.

3081
03:36:31,140 --> 03:36:32,500
Run down the bottom.

3082
03:36:34,200 --> 03:36:39,330
All right, what you have before you as the,

3083
03:36:39,330 --> 03:36:41,050
it's another version we were,

3084
03:36:41,250 --> 03:36:43,350
the top sheet was updated today,

3085
03:36:43,350 --> 03:36:46,550
because we see changes in that.

3086
03:36:48,150 --> 03:36:50,180
And this will be,

3087
03:36:51,350 --> 03:36:52,950
as council was asked before,

3088
03:36:52,950 --> 03:36:56,870
with the toes off the bottom, as he looked through the years,

3089
03:36:58,890 --> 03:37:02,250
and what the proposed tax rate,

3090
03:37:02,450 --> 03:37:06,830
as he, and the high-line blow, I'm going to let those go ahead and start explaining here.

3091
03:37:07,350 --> 03:37:14,090
Yeah, so the B-A-R was increased and we got the updated point today.

3092
03:37:14,430 --> 03:37:19,390
So the B-R is at 0.8, 1, 2, 6, 9, 9.

3093
03:37:19,390 --> 03:37:22,950
and we're left, we're not very good.

3094
03:37:23,070 --> 03:37:24,630
It's a little bit harder than I thought it would.

3095
03:37:25,150 --> 03:37:27,810
That's the best, it's a little bit harder than I thought it would.

3096
03:37:30,000 --> 03:37:32,000
The last one.

3097
03:37:35,660 --> 03:37:37,000
The last one.

3098
03:37:38,140 --> 03:37:38,500
The last one.

3099
03:37:38,500 --> 03:37:40,180
This one.

3100
03:37:41,080 --> 03:37:42,280
So, how do you place it?

3101
03:37:42,900 --> 03:37:43,780
It's right here.

3102
03:37:44,080 --> 03:37:44,140
Yeah.

3103
03:37:44,140 --> 03:37:45,780
It's also here for motor approval.

3104
03:37:46,040 --> 03:37:51,300
So, you have your number of revenue and then at the minutes, on the motor approval.

3105
03:37:51,520 --> 03:37:52,060
That was different.

3106
03:37:54,940 --> 03:37:55,260
Wait.

3107
03:37:55,640 --> 03:38:01,720
I thought we said this weekend that the proposed tax rate was not that.

3108
03:38:01,720 --> 03:38:08,940
That was the butter fruit of the butter fruit change. Yes, that's how we we got the updated form today from San Francisco County

3109
03:38:08,940 --> 03:38:12,140
So is the butter fruit a little went from

3110
03:38:12,140 --> 03:38:14,770
27 to the 21 to the 21 to see there

3111
03:38:15,920 --> 03:38:16,680
So worse

3112
03:38:16,680 --> 03:38:19,300
We're saying that we're

3113
03:38:19,300 --> 03:38:21,690
Pushing some move to that rate

3114
03:38:22,440 --> 03:38:26,120
Okay, as we discuss it at the buzzer workshop

3115
03:38:27,560 --> 03:38:42,120
But when the proposed tax rate is adopted, or not adopted but published, it will be higher than what the council model wanted to go to.

3116
03:38:43,320 --> 03:38:51,320
And that's where you start cutting the budget back, and because as I said before, if you

3117
03:38:51,320 --> 03:38:57,460
set it too low, you can't go above it, but if you go as high as you can, then you can always

3118
03:38:57,460 --> 03:38:58,140
go backwards.

3119
03:38:58,680 --> 03:39:04,300
Now it's always a sticker shop to all of this and there's one else, but it's just insured

3120
03:39:04,300 --> 03:39:09,620
that the council can set the tax rate where these two friends are being limited and I'll

3121
03:39:09,620 --> 03:39:10,180
lower right.

3122
03:39:12,780 --> 03:39:18,560
And we still have some unused increments, so it actually could be quite a bit higher than that.

3123
03:39:22,540 --> 03:39:24,040
What could it be higher than that?

3124
03:39:24,360 --> 03:39:25,760
The proposal has to make a proposal.

3125
03:39:26,460 --> 03:39:29,160
We still have tax increments all the books.

3126
03:39:30,000 --> 03:39:42,560
And as an example last year, it was said that the 74 cents, but with the tax increments it could have got up to 83 cents.

3127
03:39:44,200 --> 03:39:49,440
And this year we have about the same amount of understatement so it could actually be

3128
03:39:49,440 --> 03:39:50,460
0.89.

3129
03:39:52,000 --> 03:39:54,020
If we use our understatement.

3130
03:39:57,670 --> 03:40:02,390
So what are all these numbers falling on the size of that?

3131
03:40:04,280 --> 03:40:04,700
2 million?

3132
03:40:05,140 --> 03:40:07,580
Okay, so we're talking about the proposed tax rates.

3133
03:40:08,200 --> 03:40:11,000
2.9458 next to the total, right?

3134
03:40:11,260 --> 03:40:12,380
Right, so next to the total.

3135
03:40:12,380 --> 03:40:14,920
revenue that includes the M&L and the I-Ns.

3136
03:40:15,260 --> 03:40:16,580
Okay. Next one.

3137
03:40:17,160 --> 03:40:26,780
Next one over if you look at the top is what it would cost for $250,000, $120,000, $250,000, $250,000, $250,000.

3138
03:40:26,900 --> 03:40:28,420
Should I say the number again?

3139
03:40:28,740 --> 03:40:30,920
Alright, so you're asking the number up here. Okay, what should I do?

3140
03:40:31,480 --> 03:40:31,580
Okay.

3141
03:40:32,440 --> 03:40:34,780
That's how much it would cost additional?

3142
03:40:35,180 --> 03:40:41,920
No. So additional, I believe it would cost $4,000, $4,000, $4,000, $250,000.

3143
03:40:42,380 --> 03:40:45,940
And then down to like $5 a month forward to the $100,000.

3144
03:40:46,500 --> 03:40:47,660
No, that's $100,000.

3145
03:40:48,680 --> 03:40:52,340
So, what you're seeing is what your text would be?

3146
03:40:52,400 --> 03:40:52,620
Right.

3147
03:40:52,960 --> 03:40:56,160
On face on, what do we have any verses to it?

3148
03:40:56,180 --> 03:40:56,440
Right.

3149
03:40:56,940 --> 03:40:59,420
I understand I just want to make sure that we know,

3150
03:41:00,000 --> 03:41:05,860
because the reality is everyone wants to know the deficit.

3151
03:41:06,180 --> 03:41:08,100
How much more are we going to have to pay?

3152
03:41:08,100 --> 03:41:16,760
I mean, I wouldn't know if I went to my tax bill, if I would have to go to physically my tax bill and say okay, what did I pay last year?

3153
03:41:17,080 --> 03:41:17,780
So that's why I'm asking.

3154
03:41:18,180 --> 03:41:19,220
There's about a little bit.

3155
03:41:19,480 --> 03:41:25,060
So our current tax rate is right below that, and that's the current amount.

3156
03:41:25,440 --> 03:41:27,080
Oh, dear.

3157
03:41:27,720 --> 03:41:27,820
Okay.

3158
03:41:28,180 --> 03:41:29,160
Sorry, yes.

3159
03:41:29,720 --> 03:41:30,240
Okay.

3160
03:41:30,240 --> 03:41:33,240
So 1852 to 2031 is the same.

3161
03:41:39,040 --> 03:41:39,180
Okay.

3162
03:41:39,180 --> 03:41:41,240
Very nice analysis here, I like it.

3163
03:41:41,240 --> 03:41:45,220
And the only other initial item this is that I have included the revenues

3164
03:41:46,400 --> 03:41:52,310
for the telephone and those revenues are based on the border approval rate.

3165
03:41:53,660 --> 03:41:57,180
So the revenue change is obviously the budget and our revenue is changed.

3166
03:41:58,940 --> 03:42:00,700
So this is matter of budget exactly?

3167
03:42:01,800 --> 03:42:02,900
The border approval rate?

3168
03:42:03,480 --> 03:42:03,680
Yeah.

3169
03:42:04,240 --> 03:42:05,960
So that's the revenues.

3170
03:42:11,140 --> 03:42:11,160
Yeah.

3171
03:42:11,160 --> 03:42:12,660
So if you look for the M&O?

3172
03:42:13,100 --> 03:42:13,280
Yeah.

3173
03:42:13,980 --> 03:42:18,200
That's 6,000, and 5,000, and 2,000, and 5,000.

3174
03:42:25,420 --> 03:42:27,560
Oh, and so this is a revenue sheet.

3175
03:42:28,760 --> 03:42:29,400
Oh, okay.

3176
03:42:38,920 --> 03:42:39,820
What were we asking

3177
03:42:42,250 --> 03:42:44,950
total and those budget?

3178
03:42:45,730 --> 03:42:47,530
This giant backpack here.

3179
03:42:47,710 --> 03:42:48,310
The expenses?

3180
03:42:50,010 --> 03:42:51,010
Is this, is this that?

3181
03:42:51,070 --> 03:42:51,650
Yes, I'm sorry.

3182
03:42:51,690 --> 03:42:52,470
I have to start working.

3183
03:42:54,070 --> 03:43:00,570
So we're saying 20,618 is our budget expenses.

3184
03:43:00,570 --> 03:43:05,070
And our revenue is 23-9.07.

3185
03:43:11,710 --> 03:43:23,450
Now what is it if we don't increase what is our proposed if we don't increase the tax to

3186
03:43:23,450 --> 03:43:24,170
what are approved?

3187
03:43:24,770 --> 03:43:26,750
I would kind of let her make them approved.

3188
03:43:27,270 --> 03:43:28,570
Well like, I don't do revenue.

3189
03:43:29,910 --> 03:43:30,290
Correct.

3190
03:43:30,290 --> 03:43:37,490
So the only revenue cuts the revenue down to the 13 million, so we go home.

3191
03:43:38,750 --> 03:43:40,570
Wait, no new revenue.

3192
03:43:41,690 --> 03:43:44,290
Okay, so the number of revenue is at two different rates.

3193
03:43:44,410 --> 03:43:47,210
Why is the M&O in the other one?

3194
03:43:47,490 --> 03:43:48,850
He is the one that I'll let me.

3195
03:43:48,970 --> 03:43:49,830
So that would be further than that.

3196
03:43:50,530 --> 03:43:52,450
But that's only, that's 0.698.

3197
03:43:53,570 --> 03:43:56,250
I thought last year we were at 0.77.

3198
03:43:58,130 --> 03:43:59,190
We were at 0.747.

3199
03:44:00,570 --> 03:44:05,790
So then, okay, I'm confused and with why this and that don't match.

3200
03:44:10,000 --> 03:44:19,210
Because it's, this is how to do it, you know, basically it's, that last year number, it was based on our values last year.

3201
03:44:19,510 --> 03:44:26,630
That number, anyway, is based on our, of course, on our values that we've seen out of your values for this year.

3202
03:44:27,110 --> 03:44:30,750
And so it's, it's, it's, it's the right time to be the same as the values for different.

3203
03:44:34,970 --> 03:44:40,970
If we left our taxes at 0.74, I'll just see where that reflection would be.

3204
03:44:41,330 --> 03:44:43,230
Yeah, I'm not going to get that kind of glitches.

3205
03:44:43,430 --> 03:44:44,810
That's what I was trying to say.

3206
03:44:45,650 --> 03:44:50,970
So we're saying those revenue, essentially, well, I guess it will still be,

3207
03:44:51,870 --> 03:44:55,790
it will still be considering the revenue because the appraisals change.

3208
03:44:57,010 --> 03:44:59,970
And you're going to click the motor.

3209
03:45:00,000 --> 03:45:05,880
In a couple of months. Good night, that would kind of look at 3.7.

3210
03:45:06,020 --> 03:45:07,560
Right, without everybody gets that right.

3211
03:45:08,660 --> 03:45:14,560
But the city still has to, you know, feel good. Everything goes up.

3212
03:45:15,080 --> 03:45:17,320
So, that's why the council has that hard decision.

3213
03:45:18,260 --> 03:45:26,400
Yes, once again, whether to go down, stay at the same amount, go up to the federal approval rate,

3214
03:45:26,400 --> 03:45:28,680
with when you get to a wrong letter packed.

3215
03:45:29,060 --> 03:45:33,040
This is just showing what the revenue stream will be on the tag side.

3216
03:45:33,480 --> 03:45:35,320
As the end of the tag's rate.

3217
03:45:35,760 --> 03:45:37,840
As the end of the tag's rate.

3218
03:45:37,840 --> 03:45:41,300
Just ending the closest rate, I can see that is the minimum

3219
03:45:41,300 --> 03:45:45,580
rate at 0.72 is closest to what we're going to see at 0.74.

3220
03:45:46,300 --> 03:45:47,320
That's all I'm going to say.

3221
03:45:47,780 --> 03:45:50,100
All right, and now the limit of the rate,

3222
03:45:51,520 --> 03:45:55,440
that is calculate so a city has to write to generate another

3223
03:45:55,440 --> 03:45:56,960
$500,000.

3224
03:45:57,620 --> 03:46:02,680
That was an issue, because it was known as the Far Truck, right?

3225
03:46:03,400 --> 03:46:06,140
Because several cities did not have enough money.

3226
03:46:06,540 --> 03:46:08,280
We go out by piece of equipment.

3227
03:46:08,480 --> 03:46:10,800
I know we also said there is a training and hurdle list.

3228
03:46:11,240 --> 03:46:13,420
I mean, the hardware is what you're talking about.

3229
03:46:14,620 --> 03:46:17,860
So, I don't know if we'll be to get on the T&L, that's how you're reading it, right?

3230
03:46:17,860 --> 03:46:20,280
No, no, no.

3231
03:46:20,360 --> 03:46:22,100
You heard us so many times.

3232
03:46:25,810 --> 03:46:27,410
So there's a action on this.

3233
03:46:27,430 --> 03:46:28,870
No, this is just because.

3234
03:46:29,750 --> 03:46:31,670
And this is what I want to have for now,

3235
03:46:31,730 --> 03:46:36,490
is that because the projected adoption of the text,

3236
03:46:36,950 --> 03:46:41,270
the budget and the text rate is from September 22nd,

3237
03:46:41,870 --> 03:46:46,230
means I'm required by a long say law to follow

3238
03:46:46,230 --> 03:46:53,150
with the city secretary on or before August 22nd. But the castle will hear

3239
03:46:53,150 --> 03:47:01,210
see the proposed budget of at the August 25th, me over on everything. But budget

3240
03:47:01,210 --> 03:47:04,910
length. Yeah correct correct me from wrong though, but we can

3241
03:47:06,960 --> 03:47:07,220
further

3242
03:47:07,220 --> 03:47:09,220
present it. I don't care. We can get guidance.

3243
03:47:09,220 --> 03:47:12,060
I'm telling you, you got this at all, right?

3244
03:47:13,920 --> 03:47:14,540
You got it, right?

3245
03:47:14,940 --> 03:47:16,020
Yeah, you got this.

3246
03:47:17,720 --> 03:47:25,100
And at the August 25th meeting, that's when Council will take official action on the proposed

3247
03:47:25,100 --> 03:47:25,740
frame.

3248
03:47:27,040 --> 03:47:29,600
So that then it can be published in the paper.

3249
03:47:30,160 --> 03:47:35,260
And the hearing will be at the, we'll have one budget hearing either at the eighth

3250
03:47:35,260 --> 03:47:44,040
meeting or, and but we have to have the budget hearing, my state law on the 15th and for

3251
03:47:44,040 --> 03:47:51,240
both the budget and the tax rate. And then we'll be asking to postpone the action until

3252
03:47:51,240 --> 03:47:59,980
September 22nd. Our charter says that we have to hold two budget hearings. State law

3253
03:47:59,980 --> 03:48:03,300
says we don't have to have one, so we will have the extra budget hearing in.

3254
03:48:04,770 --> 03:48:07,830
So I think my only question for you is if you could give us the

3255
03:48:08,590 --> 03:48:12,270
something you shouldn't email whatever if you're attached right there to change

3256
03:48:12,270 --> 03:48:19,390
You don't have to bring it to the whole paper. You just send it as a single email. We can cancel it in to that just to see

3257
03:48:19,390 --> 03:48:20,930
I don't know if there's that would be awesome

3258
03:48:22,130 --> 03:48:25,770
We closed out the year staying at 0.7.4

3259
03:48:34,210 --> 03:48:37,290
I and this revenue is the top of the page

3260
03:48:37,290 --> 03:48:42,370
What is the revenue for INS?

3261
03:48:42,730 --> 03:48:43,750
What is that?

3262
03:48:43,750 --> 03:48:44,290
That service.

3263
03:48:45,030 --> 03:48:48,690
If you look at the base split,

3264
03:48:48,870 --> 03:48:50,190
how about an INS?

3265
03:48:50,230 --> 03:48:50,510
Right.

3266
03:48:50,610 --> 03:48:50,810
Right.

3267
03:48:51,290 --> 03:48:51,670
Yes.

3268
03:48:52,070 --> 03:48:53,550
That's the 16.

3269
03:48:53,730 --> 03:48:56,770
So this is what we're making in taxes.

3270
03:48:57,690 --> 03:48:58,930
For debt services.

3271
03:49:01,590 --> 03:49:03,490
And those two rates will be different.

3272
03:49:04,210 --> 03:49:04,890
Okay.

3273
03:49:04,890 --> 03:49:07,090
I think the debt service and then they have it on.

3274
03:49:08,310 --> 03:49:11,950
Where is our interests go?

3275
03:49:12,850 --> 03:49:15,030
What book it does our interests follow?

3276
03:49:15,270 --> 03:49:20,910
Any interesting come is book into the fund

3277
03:49:20,910 --> 03:49:22,850
that the interest is earned.

3278
03:49:23,790 --> 03:49:27,590
So in the general fund, interest earned off of the fund

3279
03:49:27,590 --> 03:49:29,610
and just book into the fund.

3280
03:49:29,610 --> 03:49:35,610
anything and the process is booked into the

3281
03:49:35,610 --> 03:49:39,090
process. Anything that's in the very

3282
03:49:39,090 --> 03:49:43,010
scaffold, funds, it's booked back into that.

3283
03:49:43,270 --> 03:49:47,270
Same thing with the street-makers fund, that

3284
03:49:47,270 --> 03:49:50,630
interest goes back into street-makers fund.

3285
03:49:50,950 --> 03:49:56,950
Okay, so when it do we do we like forecast that

3286
03:49:57,330 --> 03:49:58,290
into any of this?

3287
03:49:58,290 --> 03:49:58,650
Yeah.

3288
03:49:59,230 --> 03:50:00,490
That was probably the one we used to remember.

3289
03:50:01,910 --> 03:50:02,410
Not there.

3290
03:50:02,790 --> 03:50:03,890
And we're having a new workshop.

3291
03:50:05,750 --> 03:50:06,230
Two together.

3292
03:50:07,750 --> 03:50:09,550
And I think I'll...

3293
03:50:09,550 --> 03:50:10,250
No more questions.

3294
03:50:12,810 --> 03:50:13,430
The...

3295
03:50:13,430 --> 03:50:13,890
This is two.

3296
03:50:14,010 --> 03:50:14,110
Yes.

3297
03:50:16,490 --> 03:50:22,670
If we have a proposed revenue of 23 nights, all right.

3298
03:50:22,770 --> 03:50:24,250
So we roll with this.

3299
03:50:24,370 --> 03:50:26,210
We have a proposed revenue of 23 nights.

3300
03:50:27,610 --> 03:50:31,990
But being only 20.6, what do we do with it?

3301
03:50:33,450 --> 03:50:36,450
So that would build up the unaccompanied family.

3302
03:50:38,170 --> 03:50:40,030
So that's about everything that's good.

3303
03:50:43,070 --> 03:50:44,290
And you paid it off.

3304
03:50:44,490 --> 03:50:46,090
You come back and you come back and you come back.

3305
03:50:47,010 --> 03:50:48,610
So the manager said, where are you?

3306
03:50:48,610 --> 03:50:50,410
You can exchange accounts with each other now.

3307
03:50:51,050 --> 03:50:55,670
And I think that number was drastically decreased with the budget that was approved.

3308
03:50:55,670 --> 03:50:59,010
And 25, this is your phone five.

3309
03:51:00,590 --> 03:51:03,550
So the budget that was approved was 6,000,000 over the revenue.

3310
03:51:04,030 --> 03:51:07,250
So that number took me to hit that, this is it.

3311
03:51:08,690 --> 03:51:12,210
So the third case, and we asked this last time,

3312
03:51:12,890 --> 03:51:14,450
the year to date numbers.

3313
03:51:15,250 --> 03:51:17,090
So that was updated in this.

3314
03:51:17,930 --> 03:51:18,810
Yes, to the end of July.

3315
03:51:19,350 --> 03:51:20,490
I ran out to the end of July.

3316
03:51:21,130 --> 03:51:22,710
Can I get this a little tough thing?

3317
03:51:23,510 --> 03:51:32,650
not infidiate them, if like any stuff, I became very the whole thing myself last time, it was not that cool, I asked for it when it needed to get it so.

3318
03:51:35,460 --> 03:51:36,880
Did you lie to me in the court?

3319
03:51:37,960 --> 03:51:40,140
Uh, it's the end of the mob.

3320
03:51:41,280 --> 03:51:41,440
No.

3321
03:51:42,060 --> 03:51:45,320
You know, technically, technically you didn't have a court in the court.

3322
03:51:45,660 --> 03:51:47,360
The jury would be the courter.

3323
03:51:47,440 --> 03:51:53,020
Typically, in the hands of a citizen amongst you would use into courters because usually at the end of the court,

3324
03:51:53,020 --> 03:51:55,660
you actually go to actual books.

3325
03:51:55,900 --> 03:51:56,660
Yeah, we can get that.

3326
03:51:56,680 --> 03:51:58,760
That's the way municipal finance works.

3327
03:51:58,840 --> 03:52:00,540
I don't need to show you that.

3328
03:52:00,640 --> 03:52:01,900
Yeah, I'm always on the end of the period.

3329
03:52:02,160 --> 03:52:03,200
Then the previous fiscal period.

3330
03:52:03,580 --> 03:52:03,960
Yeah, I can do that.

3331
03:52:04,360 --> 03:52:05,660
Oh, no, no, I'm not, I'm not.

3332
03:52:05,820 --> 03:52:07,760
It's too late to gain to be changing.

3333
03:52:09,480 --> 03:52:10,580
Yeah, I like that in the question.

3334
03:52:11,020 --> 03:52:12,880
And that request to be done.

3335
03:52:12,880 --> 03:52:14,600
Do it, try not to, I'll not be saying that.

3336
03:52:14,600 --> 03:52:15,480
Yeah, that's all they can say.

3337
03:52:16,100 --> 03:52:17,680
What's it to you in the Excel?

3338
03:52:18,160 --> 03:52:19,340
Yes, you just need more questions.

3339
03:52:22,270 --> 03:52:22,330
Yeah.

3340
03:52:30,000 --> 03:52:33,080
First of all, let me ask you a question about the Hamlet control.

3341
03:52:35,480 --> 03:52:38,200
Is it not your reading where a line item call market shipping?

3342
03:52:42,530 --> 03:52:47,710
Please put it in. Please allocate money from microchipping specifically.

3343
03:52:47,870 --> 03:52:51,590
It is animal market shipping's $409.

3344
03:52:51,710 --> 03:52:54,490
Like right in the middle of the thing. Okay, $5 dollars.

3345
03:52:55,290 --> 03:52:55,550
Is that it?

3346
03:52:57,820 --> 03:52:58,980
First laid revenues?

3347
03:53:02,720 --> 03:53:09,320
I just want to make sure that we use that line I do get as many animals as I could

3348
03:53:09,320 --> 03:53:11,780
get just to be able to possibly use one of the programs.

3349
03:53:12,380 --> 03:53:14,880
Okay, let's get back to the tax.

3350
03:53:16,400 --> 03:53:20,200
I'm a titty, and I heard one of the council members who moved to it.

3351
03:53:20,220 --> 03:53:25,020
The only thing that says it's here, they don't understand what they need to tax for

3352
03:53:25,020 --> 03:53:31,040
anyways. They want to know how much more they're going to be packing. That's what they want to know.

3353
03:53:31,240 --> 03:53:37,160
They can care less about all this humbo jumbo. So my question is very simple to

3354
03:53:37,160 --> 03:53:42,840
staff, to the manager. When you sit down in the United States budget, we've got the numbers in.

3355
03:53:44,160 --> 03:53:50,600
We happen to have an idea. This business, and I've said this every single year, just automatically

3356
03:53:51,180 --> 03:53:56,660
Let's just go to the top and that's what the citizens here.

3357
03:53:57,900 --> 03:54:01,460
We have to have the target. This council has to be told.

3358
03:54:02,120 --> 03:54:05,700
A good estimate and said, we can start looking for potential cuts.

3359
03:54:06,500 --> 03:54:08,940
Remember that we may have told you about that.

3360
03:54:09,060 --> 03:54:11,420
I've got to address this issue also.

3361
03:54:11,800 --> 03:54:14,720
It's very long, well-written email from the citizens.

3362
03:54:16,780 --> 03:54:19,740
And this stage of the game, as we plan on the project,

3363
03:54:19,740 --> 03:54:27,140
So we have to have an idea, we got to touch region that we got to finish it, valuations,

3364
03:54:28,060 --> 03:54:29,460
we'll just be quickly speaking,

3365
03:54:32,380 --> 03:54:34,720
and I'm certainly not going to give you an open door

3366
03:54:34,720 --> 03:54:40,020
to go to the max, because that says, let's just keep on and staff, I don't mean this in

3367
03:54:40,020 --> 03:54:43,460
the bad way, but you keep coming up and saying, well, we need this, we need this.

3368
03:54:44,440 --> 03:54:50,580
We got a top decision, this is the most important decision that affects citizens, that

3369
03:54:50,580 --> 03:54:56,420
we will ever do in a year, because we are addressing their pocketbooks.

3370
03:54:58,520 --> 03:55:00,480
It's not our money, it's their money.

3371
03:55:01,580 --> 03:55:08,740
So, based upon what you have seen, give me a gut feeling, what is our tax rate, based upon

3372
03:55:08,740 --> 03:55:10,520
your figures right here?

3373
03:55:11,420 --> 03:55:14,100
What do you think we are risked against going to be to our citizens?

3374
03:55:14,100 --> 03:55:23,540
So, you have the values and that's no I want to hear it verbally on the record 14, I think it was 14,06 per month for the 250.

3375
03:55:23,900 --> 03:55:27,320
Well, that's not what I say, so I'm talking about the tax rates.

3376
03:55:28,260 --> 03:55:36,260
We will be recommending the voter approval rate, which is the three and a half over the new revenue rate.

3377
03:55:36,480 --> 03:55:38,100
How does that compare to last year?

3378
03:55:39,440 --> 03:55:40,280
Let's get it on the record.

3379
03:55:42,140 --> 03:55:48,820
And that would be $200,000,000 to $180.

3380
03:55:49,680 --> 03:55:50,660
I just want to talk about it.

3381
03:55:50,840 --> 03:55:51,220
Just a little bit.

3382
03:55:53,720 --> 03:55:54,060
Just a little bit.

3383
03:55:54,060 --> 03:55:54,400
Just a little bit.

3384
03:55:58,310 --> 03:56:03,930
What I'm getting at is what the citizens need to understand is a lot of this increases based

3385
03:56:03,930 --> 03:56:05,630
upon evaluations.

3386
03:56:05,970 --> 03:56:07,410
It's just a value of the situation.

3387
03:56:08,250 --> 03:56:09,370
It's what a lot of us.

3388
03:56:10,130 --> 03:56:12,550
And some of us have seen the evaluations.

3389
03:56:13,090 --> 03:56:16,390
And, well, I tell you what, I think everybody, you know,

3390
03:56:16,470 --> 03:56:19,770
we're damned if we do damned if we don't, but if I was serious,

3391
03:56:20,010 --> 03:56:24,670
I'd be protesting, because that man, and that's why I want to use this,

3392
03:56:24,830 --> 03:56:28,450
the opportunity to remind everybody, you can protest,

3393
03:56:29,390 --> 03:56:32,690
and if you know how to do it, if you got a bullet off the side of your

3394
03:56:32,690 --> 03:56:38,470
siding, you protest, and you may just, you may get relief,

3395
03:56:39,070 --> 03:56:41,230
because I have sat on that board before.

3396
03:56:41,810 --> 03:56:43,410
9.7 percent.

3397
03:56:43,810 --> 03:56:45,270
9.7 percent?

3398
03:56:45,390 --> 03:56:45,550
Okay.

3399
03:56:46,270 --> 03:56:47,950
That's what I needed to hear.

3400
03:56:51,440 --> 03:56:54,500
Because we have to know the target of what we're working towards.

3401
03:56:55,280 --> 03:56:59,000
Now, I see some things all over this budget.

3402
03:56:59,120 --> 03:57:03,020
First of all, I'm going to go to the city manager.

3403
03:57:04,360 --> 03:57:05,860
Now, I'm going to make it very clear.

3404
03:57:06,000 --> 03:57:08,760
I'm not talking about the contract and the city manager.

3405
03:57:09,020 --> 03:57:12,140
I'm talking about associated to run the physician.

3406
03:57:13,160 --> 03:57:14,580
office of city manager.

3407
03:57:16,960 --> 03:57:21,060
I've given this a lot of thought. I've had discussions with you and you

3408
03:57:21,060 --> 03:57:23,640
know what something and I'm not comfortable with personally.

3409
03:57:25,860 --> 03:57:27,440
I'm not comfortable with this new

3410
03:57:27,440 --> 03:57:42,120
position working directly under the city manager. When we call POI, whatever it is, the

3411
03:57:42,120 --> 03:57:49,160
the night or that is during the year when I heard the figure we now have 150 employees and

3412
03:57:49,160 --> 03:57:58,320
that is part time until that was 70 years ago and we had a hundred and two at one time and

3413
03:57:58,320 --> 03:58:02,820
we got to be careful in flooding. Yes, on the other case we made well we have so much more

3414
03:58:02,820 --> 03:58:10,160
responsibility. We got to remember it's her citizens paying for all of this. We are a town

3415
03:58:10,160 --> 03:58:18,160
of less than 10,000 people, the mileage of our town has not increased because for all practical purposes we are landmarked.

3416
03:58:19,480 --> 03:58:25,980
We have nowhere, we have nowhere to change to expand to, I mean, everything we've got is what we've got basically.

3417
03:58:27,700 --> 03:58:35,160
And so I've got parts with that, and I'll tell you where it comes into play on Europe, on the department of city manager.

3418
03:58:35,740 --> 03:58:43,160
I would have liked to have kept you and I discussed this, the salary is separated, because

3419
03:58:43,160 --> 03:58:48,860
your salary is something this very body will discuss under your bond and executive session.

3420
03:58:49,080 --> 03:58:51,420
We have to come out in the public and talk about it.

3421
03:58:52,300 --> 03:58:54,580
That's the law, because it's public films.

3422
03:58:54,940 --> 03:59:00,560
There's no hiding at there, so I'm a little concerned about that, but I don't have a trouble

3423
03:59:00,560 --> 03:59:06,120
personally, just to find that position. We have an administrative department. We have three

3424
03:59:06,120 --> 03:59:12,960
people in that admin department department. They're doing a really remarkable job. I found cities

3425
03:59:12,960 --> 03:59:20,160
that the police department, because they are so exposed to the public, they fulfill their

3426
03:59:20,160 --> 03:59:22,480
administrative, fulfills that position.

3427
03:59:24,580 --> 03:59:27,460
And you told me, well, we need to monitor all

3428
03:59:30,140 --> 03:59:41,920
I'm not going to pay 50,000 dollars or whatever for somebody, but we have department heads that need to be in my opinion that can take care of that expense.

3429
03:59:42,360 --> 03:59:49,200
A department head who's posting on their department mental, they answer directly to you.

3430
03:59:49,200 --> 03:59:56,900
And I personally feel it's like hiring a supervisor for a supervisor for a supervisor for a supervisor.

3431
03:59:56,900 --> 03:59:59,960
They can be put to you what goes on there.

3432
04:00:00,000 --> 04:00:19,440
We're doing a good job. I happen to like the police departments. I don't have a fantastic job keeping the public up to date. I do want to put that. So it could close to the chief and his staff, whoever is doing that particular Facebook, monitor, doing a great job. So I've got problems with that one right off there, and there's $40,000.

3433
04:00:22,780 --> 04:00:26,720
What's the data that we call that the compensation package?

3434
04:00:27,160 --> 04:00:28,160
I asked you this before.

3435
04:00:28,600 --> 04:00:30,860
So the new one is the compensation package.

3436
04:00:30,860 --> 04:00:31,880
I asked you this before.

3437
04:00:33,100 --> 04:00:34,180
So the new one is the compensation package.

3438
04:00:35,380 --> 04:00:38,420
Well, compensation package.

3439
04:00:38,440 --> 04:00:40,620
No, I'm talking about the role of everything.

3440
04:00:41,140 --> 04:00:42,140
No, no, no, no, no.

3441
04:00:45,020 --> 04:00:46,000
I'm not asking it.

3442
04:00:46,140 --> 04:00:48,260
What's the compensation package if that is for you?

3443
04:00:48,260 --> 04:00:51,000
because that includes FICA and includes everything.

3444
04:00:53,540 --> 04:01:01,300
81948, how much yield $81,000 for everything, that's the compensation package.

3445
04:01:01,440 --> 04:01:06,220
We don't deal with it just based when I had an admissible budget, there's the compensation

3446
04:01:06,220 --> 04:01:06,760
package.

3447
04:01:07,640 --> 04:01:11,560
So it's 81,000, it's not $35,000.

3448
04:01:12,520 --> 04:01:18,020
And that's important for us to remember, that's all we have got to be careful with this stuff.

3449
04:01:18,860 --> 04:01:25,520
Now, I'm looking at some things, for example, as I've been through it, I'm just going

3450
04:01:25,520 --> 04:01:36,060
at our program here, is that I look historically, these figures on FY24, actual, FY25,

3451
04:01:36,920 --> 04:01:40,280
Those are certified audit, undid numbers, correct?

3452
04:01:40,840 --> 04:01:44,380
Well, they came from the system, I didn't get those from the audit, but yes, they have to

3453
04:01:44,380 --> 04:01:49,320
because we audit, so they have to give it a soon

3454
04:01:49,320 --> 04:01:51,160
that you're going to learn new figures, correct?

3455
04:01:53,580 --> 04:01:55,840
And when I look at over historic, and the reason

3456
04:01:55,840 --> 04:01:59,440
there's mine items are there is to give you a trend analysis.

3457
04:02:00,340 --> 04:02:04,400
Over the years, what is budgeting 50,000 dollars

3458
04:02:04,400 --> 04:02:07,060
in all these years is no more than 5,000.

3459
04:02:07,340 --> 04:02:09,800
That's a common trick to inflate a budget

3460
04:02:09,800 --> 04:02:12,560
because of the rule you can move money around

3461
04:02:12,560 --> 04:02:16,240
within departments without output approval and payment.

3462
04:02:17,040 --> 04:02:21,480
And that is got to stop, that's got to stop.

3463
04:02:21,680 --> 04:02:25,620
And when you really go through this, for example, $20,000,

3464
04:02:26,040 --> 04:02:28,940
and we've never spent more than 50,000, well,

3465
04:02:29,220 --> 04:02:34,420
on the average of $6,200, where it doesn't matter which one.

3466
04:02:34,680 --> 04:02:36,680
There's quite a few elements in here.

3467
04:02:38,780 --> 04:02:40,080
Well, I look at this.

3468
04:02:41,280 --> 04:02:43,760
And in a city, what is our total budget?

3469
04:02:43,760 --> 04:02:47,200
But that's so far that you're proposing, the total budget.

3470
04:02:48,060 --> 04:02:49,540
What's on the third page?

3471
04:02:49,860 --> 04:02:50,640
I don't know what to say.

3472
04:02:50,880 --> 04:02:52,040
I just want to give it on the record.

3473
04:02:52,220 --> 04:02:53,560
We may have people watching this.

3474
04:02:54,560 --> 04:02:57,560
Going to California 2020, 20 million things are in 18 dollars.

3475
04:02:58,640 --> 04:03:01,060
That figure is going on up drastically.

3476
04:03:02,400 --> 04:03:07,280
But the point of making is that in town this size 20,000, here, I was in this city when

3477
04:03:07,280 --> 04:03:08,500
we almost were bankrupt.

3478
04:03:09,300 --> 04:03:11,340
And that actually worked for all practical purposes.

3479
04:03:11,340 --> 04:03:16,280
And it's because councils at which I was on, we forgot to remember,

3480
04:03:16,560 --> 04:03:22,180
20,000 here, 30,000 there, it adds up to a city that's size.

3481
04:03:23,460 --> 04:03:29,620
We almost had to stay committed to take us over, because we lost track of that very few.

3482
04:03:30,480 --> 04:03:34,080
But then we go through out, I urge council.

3483
04:03:34,840 --> 04:03:37,140
I can't tell you what to do, it's your business.

3484
04:03:37,640 --> 04:03:40,820
We all have equal rights when it comes to this budget.

3485
04:03:42,560 --> 04:03:46,440
But when you see things, we've always spent business with it, and then all of a sudden,

3486
04:03:46,480 --> 04:03:49,360
we're asking this, you have to ask yourself, you know what I mean?

3487
04:03:51,210 --> 04:03:52,190
Let's give it an explanation.

3488
04:03:52,690 --> 04:03:56,230
Why all of a sudden this year does that monotone go through the roof?

3489
04:03:57,030 --> 04:04:02,270
We're going to never ask, if you understand that, and I respect our city manager, because

3490
04:04:02,270 --> 04:04:04,070
he has a financial regret.

3491
04:04:05,830 --> 04:04:13,010
So, we've got to be careful with it, for some of these numbers, and another, what salary

3492
04:04:13,010 --> 04:04:15,050
and wages of a particular department,

3493
04:04:17,910 --> 04:04:23,760
I'm looking at what the figures have been, the F526

3494
04:04:23,760 --> 04:04:31,260
of what it was adopted, and it's gone up another $30,000, we've never even come closer

3495
04:04:31,260 --> 04:04:32,140
that period.

3496
04:04:35,210 --> 04:04:42,110
That happens to me. The final has to burn. Now I understand what you're trying

3497
04:04:42,110 --> 04:04:47,230
to do and I'm not going to get into the munitions. It's not our place to do that. I also

3498
04:04:47,230 --> 04:04:53,650
want to stress that the Mayor for a time. Yes, we do get guides at this meeting. You don't

3499
04:04:53,650 --> 04:04:58,850
want to do. The only reason we don't do it by the way, we have the authority to do it by motion,

3500
04:04:59,170 --> 04:05:04,250
to direct it for some reason we thought that it was going to be implemented. We have that right

3501
04:05:04,250 --> 04:05:14,610
to do that. When we had to do it because we taught some, just to say some padding of the

3502
04:05:14,610 --> 04:05:23,610
some line of departments. So when we do that, we've got to look at the historian. Because

3503
04:05:23,610 --> 04:05:28,530
if you could well, we're 10% from the historian, we'd better be able to explain it. As a fine,

3504
04:05:28,530 --> 04:05:33,610
may I assume a direct question? Sure. As a finance director, didn't that true? Very true.

3505
04:05:33,610 --> 04:05:45,570
And that's our job, and I keep saying, this, listen to me some paper, this document is the most important thing that a council does throughout our tenure.

3506
04:05:47,090 --> 04:05:54,250
This is, and this is the only time, and yet once we had stopped the budget, we got to go up to the citizens. Why did your boarder reach the web?

3507
04:05:54,870 --> 04:06:01,990
Why did your taxes go up? The reason they go up is because we've made the decision that seven people

3508
04:06:07,050 --> 04:06:13,290
We have to be able to explain, you all don't have to explain to the citizens, we did.

3509
04:06:16,500 --> 04:06:21,380
And when we say, how would a clear breeze guy, we're just going to write a budget

3510
04:06:22,820 --> 04:06:31,120
because when you say we're going to, we're going to, we're going to initially, we don't use it, trust the citizens,

3511
04:06:31,120 --> 04:06:38,020
but we're going to the maximum tax rate. The common citizens, you know what they hear from

3512
04:06:38,020 --> 04:06:38,880
that?

3513
04:06:41,520 --> 04:06:46,400
We just gave a blank check to go at that top and then the manager will come back

3514
04:06:46,400 --> 04:06:53,740
to us where you told us, I told you, and I say that just, I don't think you'll do it. But

3515
04:06:53,740 --> 04:07:03,340
the point I'm making here, this is, I mean, this is the 12th of August. It's going to

3516
04:07:03,340 --> 04:07:08,260
We tend to raise our hands, or push our little, pretty buttons, amenate to pretty little

3517
04:07:08,260 --> 04:07:12,140
and little and tennis, to approve this budget.

3518
04:07:13,760 --> 04:07:15,820
And these citizens are stuck with it.

3519
04:07:16,120 --> 04:07:23,100
And our citizens, we've got a large number of this town, yes, they want them to move, but

3520
04:07:31,390 --> 04:07:51,870
Let's start complaining when they get their bills. That's what, and I see a lot of fluff in this. So I'm going to direct, I like to notice an individual, but I want to see, I'm going to go back and look at, this is my, my guidance for what it's worth probably nothing.

3521
04:07:52,610 --> 04:07:57,850
What did the historic over the past, the 24th and the 25th,

3522
04:07:57,890 --> 04:08:05,050
on the actual figures and ask ourselves, we tried to pull this trick every year,

3523
04:08:05,530 --> 04:08:09,870
but yet, at the end of the year, we didn't use half of it.

3524
04:08:11,090 --> 04:08:15,790
And again, I want to reiterate, in close to the years, that is a perfect tool.

3525
04:08:16,630 --> 04:08:17,230
businesses,

3526
04:08:19,510 --> 04:08:24,810
for political bodies, had those department members because it gives you a lot

3527
04:08:24,810 --> 04:08:29,330
of leeway within that department. I heard said tonight a question asked to

3528
04:08:29,330 --> 04:08:34,590
know about it. Can't we just move money around within that department? Yeah. And it's

3529
04:08:34,590 --> 04:08:37,510
because that money was put there to do it.

3530
04:08:40,430 --> 04:08:43,030
You're proposed revenues.

3531
04:08:47,370 --> 04:08:47,970
Tough

3532
04:08:47,970 --> 04:08:48,430
raised.

3533
04:08:50,010 --> 04:08:55,330
First, what the estimate, we'll ask the manager to this because he's the one that's responsible

3534
04:08:55,330 --> 04:08:56,030
to this.

3535
04:08:56,790 --> 04:09:04,450
If this budget were approved as written, what do you estimate that the move on the morning

3536
04:09:04,450 --> 04:09:11,750
of one October that we had projected our unentumbring money to be?

3537
04:09:20,290 --> 04:09:27,790
We would still be sitting right around the four to four and a half million, I'd like to see six.

3538
04:09:28,310 --> 04:09:28,950
Wait a minute.

3539
04:09:29,570 --> 04:09:31,150
We think what you just said.

3540
04:09:31,850 --> 04:09:33,170
Because I agree with you by the way.

3541
04:09:33,250 --> 04:09:34,430
I did some number ahead.

3542
04:09:35,670 --> 04:09:36,530
How much?

3543
04:09:36,830 --> 04:09:38,950
This will be right there where we've been.

3544
04:09:39,070 --> 04:09:40,130
What did they say?

3545
04:09:40,530 --> 04:09:42,070
Not counting the what?

3546
04:09:42,410 --> 04:09:42,770
Yeah, of course.

3547
04:09:43,030 --> 04:09:45,150
In coverage portion from the resolution.

3548
04:09:46,250 --> 04:09:46,690
So that's it.

3549
04:09:46,730 --> 04:09:47,110
No wrong.

3550
04:09:47,190 --> 04:09:47,490
I know.

3551
04:09:47,490 --> 04:09:50,070
but so be, yeah, four and a half million.

3552
04:09:50,330 --> 04:09:53,950
We have never started out that well, I know it.

3553
04:09:54,070 --> 04:09:54,550
Council?

3554
04:09:54,990 --> 04:09:57,290
Wait, sit on, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

3555
04:09:58,050 --> 04:09:59,730
That isn't up to me.

3556
04:09:59,790 --> 04:10:00,550
You got it, it's up.

3557
04:10:00,790 --> 04:10:01,730
Is it right here?

3558
04:10:01,750 --> 04:10:02,830
What did you say again?

3559
04:10:03,130 --> 04:10:03,930
Four and a half million.

3560
04:10:04,410 --> 04:10:08,990
If we, if we went with, what were you,

3561
04:10:09,070 --> 04:10:10,790
what were you asking about them?

3562
04:10:11,210 --> 04:10:15,210
If we used this model, this is the budget.

3563
04:10:15,210 --> 04:10:18,550
President does when we have to raise our hand,

3564
04:10:21,060 --> 04:10:23,440
how much would be the beginning?

3565
04:10:25,300 --> 04:10:28,560
They projected, because this will be projected for the year.

3566
04:10:29,900 --> 04:10:30,880
Unencumbered funds.

3567
04:10:31,560 --> 04:10:33,820
And when he just said, I ended up in this one.

3568
04:10:33,960 --> 04:10:36,140
I came up real close to that.

3569
04:10:36,280 --> 04:10:37,920
That is scary folks.

3570
04:10:38,080 --> 04:10:39,760
I've already had four million in that.

3571
04:10:40,300 --> 04:10:43,980
That doesn't mean you have to start all over on what I told you.

3572
04:10:44,780 --> 04:10:45,520
Unencumbered money.

3573
04:10:45,520 --> 04:10:48,360
They're not all stars all over on the first.

3574
04:10:49,100 --> 04:10:51,640
That's what we needed to be here with.

3575
04:10:51,900 --> 04:10:54,160
And that's where we need our right to listen until we receive them.

3576
04:10:54,160 --> 04:10:55,140
Keep sack with forever.

3577
04:10:56,020 --> 04:10:58,440
Yes, you're a food-me-high revenues and we haven't got anything.

3578
04:10:58,760 --> 04:10:59,860
We don't recognize it until we got it.

3579
04:10:59,880 --> 04:11:03,940
It's a recognized, it's a assumed figure that what you're going to have.

3580
04:11:04,240 --> 04:11:07,360
To be here, unencumbered to span.

3581
04:11:08,400 --> 04:11:13,860
And so at next year, at this time next year, that's a scary thought.

3582
04:11:15,320 --> 04:11:21,120
Think about it, we're starting out at the minimum that we have said, but it's the left

3583
04:11:21,120 --> 04:11:23,640
over from 2526, because you don't have time to come.

3584
04:11:23,680 --> 04:11:25,180
There is no way out left over.

3585
04:11:25,240 --> 04:11:27,440
It starts all over.

3586
04:11:28,280 --> 04:11:29,860
It starts all over.

3587
04:11:30,600 --> 04:11:33,680
In other words, we're saying we're not even projecting.

3588
04:11:35,780 --> 04:11:43,120
The only way that what he said is, we're not projecting any savings account for lack

3589
04:11:43,120 --> 04:11:48,920
better analogy. We're not increasing things to go. Yeah, we're not increasing it. And we've already

3590
04:11:48,920 --> 04:11:55,540
said you never want to go below $4 billion. We're starting out to be here at that. We

3591
04:11:55,540 --> 04:12:04,420
started not before. $11 million? $12 million? But any encountered funds weren't spent. B was the example

3592
04:12:04,420 --> 04:12:09,300
two million amps have been soldering. That's left over on total one.

3593
04:12:09,500 --> 04:12:11,100
That's supposed to go to the company.

3594
04:12:11,720 --> 04:12:13,840
No, no, it does not go out down in the company.

3595
04:12:13,860 --> 04:12:15,760
It goes to the new project.

3596
04:12:15,880 --> 04:12:18,180
It goes to the company as part of this.

3597
04:12:18,180 --> 04:12:19,180
Yes, yes.

3598
04:12:19,360 --> 04:12:21,500
That money, because your budget is not written.

3599
04:12:21,660 --> 04:12:25,560
This money just does not mysteriously go into this bank account.

3600
04:12:25,860 --> 04:12:31,240
You're starting, we're doing a budget just like it was one October last year.

3601
04:12:31,240 --> 04:12:34,120
You start out with that. You start out those expenses.

3602
04:12:36,240 --> 04:12:40,780
And I can tell you right now, every year I've never seen a start out,

3603
04:12:42,340 --> 04:12:43,460
before we knowers.

3604
04:12:43,780 --> 04:12:47,180
Because that says if you have a rich station that's unbudgeted,

3605
04:12:48,180 --> 04:12:52,840
that's unbudgeted, you would just now take in your forecast

3606
04:12:52,840 --> 04:12:55,740
in a hundred funds below a billion more.

3607
04:12:56,380 --> 04:12:59,280
And I can't even up with 4.8 is what I can't up with.

3608
04:13:00,140 --> 04:13:06,620
And that I've never seen that before, but that tells me the old root expending.

3609
04:13:08,540 --> 04:13:12,980
Now I know what you're thinking about saying, well, we've got the 25 percent note.

3610
04:13:13,520 --> 04:13:17,360
Now that you can't use that, there's a resolution that's not set.

3611
04:13:18,320 --> 04:13:22,140
Where I found it is, I'm going to tell you where I found the money.

3612
04:13:23,000 --> 04:13:28,620
Remember, I said, I went back to the 20th, the last two years of audited figures.

3613
04:13:28,900 --> 04:13:34,920
There's on how estimated, there was for audited, we accepted, we approved the audits.

3614
04:13:36,720 --> 04:13:43,340
And there is so much fluff overestimating the years past that we haven't spent.

3615
04:13:44,200 --> 04:13:50,500
And I'm just concerned about it, and the manager himself, I believe you're concerned about it.

3616
04:13:50,500 --> 04:13:54,860
We, we go through there and we reduce, we go there.

3617
04:13:55,080 --> 04:13:58,680
But you understand, you understand, I know some of the council members don't, but you

3618
04:13:58,680 --> 04:14:00,360
understand what I'm talking about here.

3619
04:14:00,760 --> 04:14:05,420
I think I'm with you in, for three years straight, we budgeted 20,000, it's been

3620
04:14:05,420 --> 04:14:06,920
it, but it's still in that department.

3621
04:14:07,700 --> 04:14:10,420
No, no, because you start all over again.

3622
04:14:10,700 --> 04:14:14,040
Well, we budgeted 20,000 every year, but it's been it every year, but we're still

3623
04:14:14,040 --> 04:14:14,880
up to 20,000.

3624
04:14:15,340 --> 04:14:16,160
That's exactly.

3625
04:14:17,060 --> 04:14:17,460
That's lovely.

3626
04:14:17,460 --> 04:14:24,520
And I applaud you for the part of the part because I have to love and hate them living.

3627
04:14:24,680 --> 04:14:29,060
And I'll ever say, I applaud this man because it's so easy.

3628
04:14:29,260 --> 04:14:36,440
Heck, I remember one year the staff just changed the date because we caught it.

3629
04:14:36,560 --> 04:14:39,380
The numbers were the same way the numbers changed.

3630
04:14:40,280 --> 04:14:43,720
But what I'm pointing out to the council is we have proved this.

3631
04:14:43,720 --> 04:14:53,640
And that's why I say a snapshot, if we do this, but as it is, we just told folks, you're only

3632
04:14:53,640 --> 04:14:55,800
doing through the year.

3633
04:14:56,960 --> 04:14:59,320
The minimum that we said we would never go below.

3634
04:15:00,000 --> 04:15:06,500
And take it in the city. And all of a sudden we run out of money in that line item.

3635
04:15:08,880 --> 04:15:29,980
If you had robbed Peter to pay a call, and you're trying to use that scheme, we're going to take money. Well, it's within the department, we can just move. I question becomes, why did you put it in the budget to begin with if you did not, if you didn't need it. It's a common trick. Now I'm not fit and fall here, but my job setting it just is, I think,

3636
04:15:29,980 --> 04:15:36,280
making you would agree, that's our job, is to raise those nice views, because we're budgeting

3637
04:15:37,300 --> 04:15:39,340
other people's money.

3638
04:15:40,640 --> 04:15:46,260
Probably everybody on this body can afford to pay their taxes, but we got families out

3639
04:15:46,260 --> 04:15:48,400
to it with our own fixed income.

3640
04:15:49,700 --> 04:15:50,880
That's our own fixed income.

3641
04:15:51,320 --> 04:15:55,180
And remember, I've said it many times, we are representatives.

3642
04:15:55,740 --> 04:16:02,120
I consider it an honor, and I mean this from the bottom of my heart, I consider it an honor.

3643
04:16:02,960 --> 04:16:05,300
And I wanted to serve with each one of you all.

3644
04:16:05,400 --> 04:16:08,200
I really mean this and I'm showing a lot of times.

3645
04:16:09,100 --> 04:16:15,900
But I'm just as honored that the citizens trust us to manage their well-being.

3646
04:16:15,940 --> 04:16:18,480
Because that's what we're doing is called quality of life.

3647
04:16:18,480 --> 04:16:23,380
And we heard tonight, we heard me a little bit to it.

3648
04:16:23,420 --> 04:16:31,020
I will put everything possible without bankrupting this into sidewalks, into streets, and

3649
04:16:31,020 --> 04:16:34,040
into infrastructure, that we have failing infrastructure.

3650
04:16:35,060 --> 04:16:38,080
There's no denying it, it's breaking.

3651
04:16:40,460 --> 04:16:45,480
So I was prepared to mention all this tonight, just to read that, I'm not lecturing you all.

3652
04:16:45,480 --> 04:16:50,980
all, even the worst counts of numbers, your vote is exactly the same, as some idiots

3653
04:16:50,980 --> 04:16:55,060
have been here for 19 years. I'll say it so you all don't have to.

3654
04:16:57,720 --> 04:16:59,940
And like I said, this

3655
04:16:59,940 --> 04:17:04,640
is the one time and we're getting close to that point where we have to raise it. Well,

3656
04:17:04,680 --> 04:17:09,420
I keep saying, I'm over school. That we have to push the button and I got to figure out where

3657
04:17:11,520 --> 04:17:13,720
It's an awesome responsibility.

3658
04:17:15,320 --> 04:17:16,160
You would agree with that.

3659
04:17:16,560 --> 04:17:20,960
For the manager, can you add anything to what I've said?

3660
04:17:21,680 --> 04:17:23,260
And I appreciate your awesome experience.

3661
04:17:24,380 --> 04:17:31,060
And I have read it right that at one time we work around the 11 million.

3662
04:17:31,860 --> 04:17:39,080
But because of trying to limit the amount of effect on the taxes on the citizens,

3663
04:17:40,260 --> 04:17:52,140
We've pulled over 5 million out of the unfunded ballots to continue operating the city, and now it's time to rebuild it.

3664
04:17:52,620 --> 04:18:04,520
We've got to be careful, you have a degree, and the other thing I will say, this accents the street maintenance fund by trying to keep 3 million dollars or whatever, not using that money.

3665
04:18:04,520 --> 04:18:09,020
We need years, every thing that we can get through the budget process.

3666
04:18:09,200 --> 04:18:10,780
We need to go out for grants.

3667
04:18:11,280 --> 04:18:13,640
Every way we can possibly get a grant.

3668
04:18:14,460 --> 04:18:18,620
Every other city around us gets on Channel 6, Channel 6, long.

3669
04:18:18,620 --> 04:18:20,760
One of the Channel 6 long because they are just taking a learn

3670
04:18:20,760 --> 04:18:21,500
and blowing some air.

3671
04:18:22,840 --> 04:18:26,840
But they show this nice, pretty fat, big long check.

3672
04:18:27,660 --> 04:18:30,540
They're no more than they got grants.

3673
04:18:31,140 --> 04:18:36,180
So, I would challenge the staff, the staff, when I say the staff, I'm talking to them, I agree.

3674
04:18:37,080 --> 04:18:46,680
And for everywhere we can get grants and for the industrial partners that always come to us and give me, give me, give me, give me, give me, give me.

3675
04:18:46,800 --> 04:18:51,800
How about you give me the citizens of England side, the new part of this community.

3676
04:18:53,680 --> 04:18:56,920
So, again, Council, I've been waiting for this particular issue.

3677
04:18:56,920 --> 04:19:01,700
to speak my piece on this. I appreciate your indulgence. Thank you.

3678
04:19:04,130 --> 04:19:05,590
Anyone else, what's

3679
04:19:05,590 --> 04:19:13,110
an action tonight, or is all about? We have an introversion. As a state is that, I'll be

3680
04:19:13,110 --> 04:19:19,590
following the proposal budget with the C Secretary and the Council will be discussing it

3681
04:19:19,590 --> 04:19:29,270
that's always principally. And how do you, so we're going to go through this, and how do you

3682
04:19:30,210 --> 04:19:36,290
Even though I follow proposed budget, if you want to email us, then the comments and stuff

3683
04:19:36,290 --> 04:19:42,370
make sure you don't copy anybody, we'll help incorporate ideas into the budget to have

3684
04:19:42,370 --> 04:19:49,430
the proposed budget is just a one-to-be-half proposed budget at the 20-page meeting.

3685
04:19:49,710 --> 04:19:57,930
We'll do this work, that's when the council will have to establish the proposed rate

3686
04:19:57,930 --> 04:19:59,750
but not through the tax rate.

3687
04:20:01,900 --> 04:20:04,220
And one thing I didn't see in here,

3688
04:20:04,400 --> 04:20:06,320
and we haven't really talked about it as capital.

3689
04:20:06,700 --> 04:20:09,440
That will be in the proposed budget overall.

3690
04:20:12,700 --> 04:20:13,500
Anything else council?

3691
04:20:14,740 --> 04:20:15,040
Nope.

3692
04:20:16,820 --> 04:20:17,060
Nope.

3693
04:20:18,800 --> 04:20:19,360
All right.

3694
04:20:21,740 --> 04:20:25,140
We will postpone the executive session.

3695
04:20:25,620 --> 04:20:29,300
We'd like to have a full council for that.

3696
04:20:29,300 --> 04:20:33,120
And I'll tell you about what I mean.

3697
04:20:33,340 --> 04:20:34,200
So that's what I did.

3698
04:20:34,280 --> 04:20:36,760
I'll tell you the next week.

3699
04:20:37,280 --> 04:20:39,320
And I bought some courage with the mayor.

3700
04:20:40,200 --> 04:20:41,620
I don't know what's happening with him,

3701
04:20:42,680 --> 04:20:42,680
but

3702
04:20:44,950 --> 04:20:47,230
he hopefully he'll be back soon.

3703
04:20:47,730 --> 04:20:48,250
He's doing well.

3704
04:20:48,490 --> 04:20:49,830
He's just getting some love.

3705
04:20:50,070 --> 04:20:50,970
He's very happy to ask you.

3706
04:20:51,830 --> 04:20:52,070
Yep.

3707
04:20:57,600 --> 04:20:59,260
On to item 25.

3708
04:21:00,520 --> 04:21:02,940
I'd have to consider for placement on future agendas.

3709
04:21:13,720 --> 04:21:15,800
Mr. Bill, I'm going to have to start with the manager.

3710
04:21:15,800 --> 04:21:17,880
Thank you for doing the research.

3711
04:21:18,540 --> 04:21:20,500
Thank you to providing a document.

3712
04:21:21,700 --> 04:21:24,140
I was not aware that it existed.

3713
04:21:25,140 --> 04:21:29,340
Data that 21st October 2025.

3714
04:21:31,100 --> 04:21:32,820
I was not on the Council yet.

3715
04:21:33,460 --> 04:21:36,000
But all that we have heard of me and I've talked to the,

3716
04:21:36,000 --> 04:21:38,220
and for this day forth, I'm going to refer to the,

3717
04:21:38,240 --> 04:21:41,260
the Economic Development Corporation for being beside.

3718
04:21:41,620 --> 04:21:44,100
That is their official name.

3719
04:21:44,100 --> 04:21:51,580
not the people who sat in the development corporation, they are a separate entity, we have a contract left.

3720
04:21:52,060 --> 04:21:59,560
In the past we had a contract to provide this like any vendor to provide services for them.

3721
04:22:01,020 --> 04:22:08,040
I had been looking into doing we have a contract, unknown to me, well I was off the council.

3722
04:22:09,040 --> 04:22:20,500
I looked at the contract that was done in 2023, it was basically the way it's written is a perpetual contract, unless

3723
04:22:20,500 --> 04:22:26,360
Unless you're party submits formally, you're in writing,

3724
04:22:26,540 --> 04:22:28,080
correct me, keep me online here.

3725
04:22:28,180 --> 04:22:28,900
Thank you.

3726
04:22:29,100 --> 04:22:29,960
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.

3727
04:22:34,430 --> 04:22:48,310
I have spoken with the EDC President as well, and there is no offense to anybody. I have to stop you in the

3728
04:22:48,310 --> 04:22:57,090
presented to him. That on the 21st of October of 2025 official notice of termination

3729
04:22:57,090 --> 04:23:05,630
up, correct? That was presented. It was ordained by the Council at that time and sent

3730
04:23:06,570 --> 04:23:13,090
to the economic development corporation, the middle side. The reason I mentioned that

3731
04:23:13,090 --> 04:23:18,370
and I've welcomed anybody to get a copy and read it.

3732
04:23:18,370 --> 04:23:26,090
It clearly defines money's responsibility of money's payment of money's.

3733
04:23:27,310 --> 04:23:30,210
It's a country, it's from the future termination.

3734
04:23:30,930 --> 04:23:36,090
So what we've got now is, and I know that all parties are working on it.

3735
04:23:37,350 --> 04:23:40,250
But this just amplified the need for emergency.

3736
04:23:41,570 --> 04:23:46,750
to get something to cover, because right now there's nothing that gives us the authorization

3737
04:23:46,750 --> 04:23:53,010
to handle their money. Nothing, zero, it's a matter of fact. It's some odd evidence involved

3738
04:23:53,010 --> 04:24:00,410
in my opinion of it there. So I want to know the next agenda. And I'm going to ask the manager

3739
04:24:00,410 --> 04:24:07,070
to work, and we have a member, and that's why I brought it up. It's only he received. As I

3740
04:24:07,070 --> 04:24:13,090
representative of the Council, please do everything possible to get all of this earned out.

3741
04:24:13,270 --> 04:24:17,630
So we can get a contract, if that's the desire.

3742
04:24:18,010 --> 04:24:25,370
Obviously, if we lost, if we didn't have the contract, there is a downfall.

3743
04:24:25,910 --> 04:24:27,950
Would you tell the Council what it is?

3744
04:24:30,170 --> 04:24:38,260
Okay, so the contract at this time that we've been operating under before and before that

3745
04:24:39,080 --> 04:24:44,320
really issue the lesser of course that and I'm going to go into two-fold here.

3746
04:24:44,680 --> 04:24:47,600
This is only for the regions that put them on the next year.

3747
04:24:48,660 --> 04:24:49,840
But that's all I'll say.

3748
04:24:49,840 --> 04:24:58,280
that we are we are we are still we have been assisting providing services to die

3749
04:24:58,280 --> 04:25:00,900
easily or the economic development corporations have been

3750
04:25:00,900 --> 04:25:05,080
done. Not on the contrary there are several things in there there are

3751
04:25:05,080 --> 04:25:14,020
questionable as to to get the poor resources at all and all this will be on in the

3752
04:25:14,020 --> 04:25:17,460
packets are even added since canceled and revealed in RIS for this he just won

3753
04:25:17,460 --> 04:25:18,760
clear file will be requested.

3754
04:25:22,080 --> 04:25:29,400
And we are working with the, that's hard to say.

3755
04:25:29,620 --> 04:25:30,920
It's not a medical operation.

3756
04:25:33,480 --> 04:25:36,200
We know of a great deal.

3757
04:25:37,040 --> 04:25:40,880
The reason that I'm pushing for immediate, to get this resolved

3758
04:25:41,260 --> 04:25:43,920
because we would be a danger of the same issue.

3759
04:25:44,780 --> 04:25:46,300
Yeah, that's where I wanted to.

3760
04:25:46,300 --> 04:25:52,840
Well, I can't go into that, because that is not the contract itself or what's on it.

3761
04:25:52,880 --> 04:25:59,640
Yeah, I'm just saying the ramifications of not the expediency of the agenda to handle the argument, right?

3762
04:25:59,740 --> 04:26:00,360
Just briefly.

3763
04:26:01,080 --> 04:26:12,840
Okay, and the EDC ceases to exist, and that text when he is up for anyone that puts on about the circumstances.

3764
04:26:12,840 --> 04:26:20,920
And we don't want that to happen, so I'm asking our representatives, please, um, whatever it takes.

3765
04:26:22,220 --> 04:26:29,040
I hope that we can vote on the food, but it's the best we've got to count on them.

3766
04:26:29,260 --> 04:26:32,940
I certainly would continue the partnership behind this meeting.

3767
04:26:33,160 --> 04:26:34,840
I'm not saying the original partnership.

3768
04:26:35,420 --> 04:26:36,280
I like the partnership.

3769
04:26:36,280 --> 04:26:37,120
You can see it.

3770
04:26:37,280 --> 04:26:38,220
Press paper work.

3771
04:26:43,020 --> 04:26:44,100
All right?

3772
04:26:44,580 --> 04:26:45,900
Anyone else?

3773
04:26:46,140 --> 04:26:46,620
I don't know.

3774
04:26:47,940 --> 04:26:48,780
Anyone else?

3775
04:26:49,540 --> 04:26:50,620
You can have a few seconds.

3776
04:26:51,140 --> 04:26:51,880
I don't know.

3777
04:26:52,280 --> 04:26:52,460
Anyone else?

3778
04:26:52,800 --> 04:26:54,000
You can have a few seconds.

3779
04:26:54,080 --> 04:26:54,260
I don't know.

3780
04:26:54,260 --> 04:26:55,360
Oh, that's not good.

3781
04:26:55,640 --> 04:26:56,000
I don't know.

3782
04:26:56,900 --> 04:26:59,580
I like to, uh, you don't want to bother, though.

3783
04:27:01,160 --> 04:27:04,400
It's something I don't bother, but it's a couch.

3784
04:27:04,780 --> 04:27:06,260
I'll bother around here to see what's going on.

3785
04:27:06,260 --> 04:27:12,720
It's a plan, and there's no, I kind of like five miles a month, so I've seven

3786
04:27:12,720 --> 04:27:14,100
miles on the other.

3787
04:27:14,500 --> 04:27:16,380
And it can't drag you around and run around and play.

3788
04:27:18,560 --> 04:27:20,060
Do you want a possible location?

3789
04:27:20,700 --> 04:27:29,600
Well, we'll put it into, we'll have, we'll have it in discussion and then also be able to

3790
04:27:29,600 --> 04:27:31,040
incorporate it into the budget process.

3791
04:27:32,300 --> 04:27:36,700
You can't go with start calling you like it did me when I thought that the animal felt

3792
04:27:36,700 --> 04:27:38,160
I need you to stop and talk.

3793
04:27:38,640 --> 04:27:41,500
We're gonna get an A.A.A.A with the Puppy quarterback.

3794
04:27:43,100 --> 04:27:48,680
I got an A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A., but I don't know how he thinks you can come.

3795
04:27:49,060 --> 04:27:50,020
You know how to say anything?

3796
04:27:50,500 --> 04:27:51,660
We've got all of the sudden board?

3797
04:27:53,080 --> 04:27:53,580
No.

3798
04:27:53,740 --> 04:27:58,860
The only thing I noticed here was from a session comment about further.

3799
04:28:00,640 --> 04:28:04,400
Further into each role of development, there's anything we can share

3800
04:28:04,400 --> 04:28:12,920
on to the tips and on any of the future on the transparency page that we have on any information

3801
04:28:12,920 --> 04:28:14,520
that we can share publicly.