1 00:01:59,760 --> 00:04:13,870 Mhm. 2 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:15,560 » Okay, we will call this regular council 3 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:17,359 meeting to order for August the 10th at 4 00:04:17,359 --> 00:04:19,200 3:00 p.m. I'd like to welcome everybody 5 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,079 in the gallery today and I'll ask 6 00:04:21,079 --> 00:04:22,640 Councillor Russell to please read the 7 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:24,120 land acknowledgement. 8 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,190 >> Thanks, Mayor Barclay. Town of Innisfail 9 00:04:26,190 --> 00:04:26,200 » Thanks, Mayor Barclay. Town of Innisfail 10 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:27,600 acknowledges that we're meeting on 11 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:29,919 Treaty 7 territory, the ancestral and 12 00:04:29,919 --> 00:04:31,520 traditional territory of the Blackfoot 13 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:33,960 Confederacy, Kainai, Piikani, and 14 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:35,960 Siksika, as well as the Tsuut'ina First 15 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,560 Nation and Stoney Nakoda First Nation. 16 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:40,360 We acknowledge this territory as home to 17 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,600 the Métis Métis Nation of Alberta, 18 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,320 Region 3 within the historical Northwest 19 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,400 Métis Métis homeland. 20 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,160 We acknowledge that many First Nations, 21 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:50,919 Métis, and Inuit who have lived in and 22 00:04:50,919 --> 00:04:53,400 cared for these lands for generations. 23 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:54,800 We are grateful for the traditional 24 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:56,280 knowledge keepers and elders who are 25 00:04:56,280 --> 00:04:58,360 still with us today and those who have 26 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:00,480 gone before us. We make this 27 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:01,800 acknowledgement as an act of 28 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,360 reconciliation and gratitude to those 29 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,640 whose territory we reside on. 30 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:09,230 >> Thank you, Councillor Russell. 31 00:05:09,230 --> 00:05:09,240 » Thank you, Councillor Russell. 32 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:10,880 We'll move into 2.1. Are there any 33 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:12,840 additions or deletions? No? I'll please 34 00:05:12,840 --> 00:05:15,880 have somebody make a motion that we ex- 35 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,280 accept the agenda as presented. 36 00:05:18,280 --> 00:05:19,600 Councillor Strong. 37 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:20,630 >> I'll make that motion. 38 00:05:20,630 --> 00:05:20,640 » I'll make that motion. 39 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:22,990 >> Okay, thank you. All in favor? 40 00:05:22,990 --> 00:05:23,000 » Okay, thank you. All in favor? 41 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:24,320 Carried. 42 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:26,160 Okay, we'll move into 3.1, the regular 43 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,360 council meeting minutes. I'll have a 44 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,320 motion to accept the amended minutes. Uh 45 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:33,320 just so you know, there was a um 46 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,800 a change made uh with uh Councillor 47 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,800 McKellar uh motion for 48 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,080 sending a response letter regarding the 49 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:42,680 non-disclosure agreements, which has 50 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:45,360 been done. And uh that was missing from 51 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,200 the minutes when we got them on Friday, 52 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:50,560 and also just some um 53 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:52,240 who was present and who was not. So, 54 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:54,480 that's all been fixed up. So, 55 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:55,880 I'll just have a motion then that we 56 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,880 accept the minutes as amended, please. 57 00:05:58,880 --> 00:05:59,600 Councillor Russell? 58 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:01,230 >> Mayor Barkley, I would make that motion. 59 00:06:01,230 --> 00:06:01,240 » Mayor Barkley, I would make that motion. 60 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:04,590 >> All right, thank you. All in favor. 61 00:06:04,590 --> 00:06:04,600 » All right, thank you. All in favor. 62 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:08,590 Carried. 63 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:11,520 Okay, and we'll move into 4.1, and we 64 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:13,440 have a notice of motion with Councillor 65 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,000 Russell. 66 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,230 >> Thanks, Mayor Barkley. So, council has 67 00:06:17,230 --> 00:06:17,240 » Thanks, Mayor Barkley. So, council has 68 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:20,320 had the background of what I'm 69 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:22,280 bringing forward the next council 70 00:06:22,280 --> 00:06:24,440 meeting in terms of a a motion. I'll get 71 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:26,120 into what the detail of that motion is 72 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,680 in a second, but when I came on council, 73 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:30,760 I I wondered if four meetings was 74 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:34,360 excessive, um one every Monday to do the 75 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:36,240 the job of council, and at that time I 76 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,720 wasn't sure if it was. Um so, I wanted 77 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:40,400 to learn and listen, and it's been 10 78 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,840 months in, and the average length I did 79 00:06:42,840 --> 00:06:44,760 ask administration for that, and it was 80 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:48,080 96 minutes was the average length. So, 81 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,400 um in my opinion, some of the the 82 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:52,560 meetings can be relatively like fairly 83 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:54,440 short. Some of them have been 45 minutes 84 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:55,680 to an hour. Some of them have been a 85 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:57,760 little longer. Um but that's the 86 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:01,200 average, and uh by reducing one AMP 87 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,520 meeting a month, my estimate, and it's 88 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:05,120 very rough, would [snorts] be around 89 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,000 10,000. And then I would ask, and you'll 90 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,160 see in the motion that's below, I'd like 91 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,720 administration to give us a a much more 92 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:14,080 accurate indication of what that savings 93 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:17,000 could be if we did go to one a month. 94 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:20,440 Um I'm not suggesting to council that we 95 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:22,200 make a permanent shift at this time. 96 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:23,800 That the motions that I'll be bringing 97 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:25,800 forward at the next meeting 98 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:29,400 is that we move to a trial of one AMP 99 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:31,520 meeting per month for a 6-month period. 100 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:32,919 So, from September to the end of 101 00:07:32,919 --> 00:07:34,320 February, 102 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,320 um just to see how it would work out. 103 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,080 And then, um 104 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,840 if if that motion were passed, I would 105 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:43,880 bring forward a second motion that at on 106 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:48,040 the February 22nd, 2027 council meeting 107 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:49,880 that at that time council discuss how 108 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,480 the trial went and make a determination 109 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:55,040 of whether we would stick with one or 110 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,280 revert back to the two agenda and 111 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,280 priority meeting. So, giving it a a 112 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:01,520 trial to see if it would work. 113 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,080 When I look at some of the agendas that 114 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,400 were in the past, it would be really a 115 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:07,800 matter of moving one and maybe to a 116 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:09,560 couple meetings two agenda items that 117 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:11,640 were on one of the four 118 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:13,200 and our meetings when my opinion would 119 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,480 be right around that two-hour mark, 120 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:17,360 which is what we're scheduled when we we 121 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:19,440 have those in our calendars. 122 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:20,520 But, I do think there's a bit more 123 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:22,040 information we need and that's what the 124 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,919 motion is there today is that asking 125 00:08:24,919 --> 00:08:27,520 council or sorry, administration to to 126 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:29,080 get a um 127 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:30,400 a more detailed with regard to the 128 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:32,599 budget and time implications for both 129 00:08:32,599 --> 00:08:34,240 council and administration because 130 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,080 administration there I've been on that 131 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,200 side. I know the amount of work that 132 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:40,280 goes into pre-planning and preparing for 133 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:42,440 a meeting, so it would be 134 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:44,240 um ongoing weekly for them. It would 135 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:46,920 give them a week break on that. Also, 136 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:48,760 their attendance at these meetings as as 137 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:50,960 well wouldn't be required on one Monday, 138 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:52,240 so 139 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:55,160 Um I also am interested at just more out 140 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,120 of curiosity in finding out what the 141 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:58,640 number and average length of meetings in 142 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,280 similar sized municipalities around. 143 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,760 And the rea- reason I say out of cur- 144 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:06,160 curiosity is because really it wouldn't 145 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,600 matter to me if one municipality had 10 146 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:10,280 or one had one. 147 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:12,200 Much more important to me is do we have 148 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:13,680 the meetings 149 00:09:13,680 --> 00:09:15,240 the appropriate number of meetings to do 150 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:17,720 a good job as governors and and do the 151 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:19,839 and you know, address the topics that we 152 00:09:19,839 --> 00:09:21,520 need to address. So, 153 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:24,400 um I I'd like to give it a try and see 154 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:26,680 if three month like the two council and 155 00:09:26,680 --> 00:09:29,440 one A&P would be sufficient. If after 156 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:31,720 six months we evaluated and we see it's 157 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,240 not, we can always go back. 158 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:35,600 And another thing for council to keep in 159 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:37,480 mind, if there's an emergent item that 160 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:39,480 comes up, we always have to write the 161 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:41,160 call an additional meeting to cover 162 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:43,000 something that that may be coming up. 163 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,920 So, that's what I I share with Council. 164 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:47,640 I I'll put that motion on the floor 165 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:49,160 that's there. I think I just read it 166 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:50,880 when I described it. So, I'll put that 167 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:52,920 one on the floor for further information 168 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:54,040 gathering. And then the other two 169 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:55,720 motions I mentioned, I'll be bringing at 170 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:57,240 the next Council meeting. So, 171 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,230 >> Okay. Thank you, Council Russell. Um 172 00:09:59,230 --> 00:09:59,240 » Okay. Thank you, Council Russell. Um 173 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:02,440 I'll open the floor to to comments. 174 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,670 Any discussion? 175 00:10:05,680 --> 00:10:06,440 Council Heystee. 176 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:08,270 >> Yeah, thanks, Mayor Barclay and uh 177 00:10:08,270 --> 00:10:08,280 » Yeah, thanks, Mayor Barclay and uh 178 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,280 Council Russell. 179 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:10,880 Uh 180 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:12,720 thanks for the motion and and your 181 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,720 explanation. So, when I when I look at 182 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,880 this, it it there is I understand where 183 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:20,680 you're coming from. It's a cost savings 184 00:10:20,680 --> 00:10:22,160 to the community. 185 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,222 And then so when I read it 186 00:10:24,222 --> 00:10:24,790 >> [snorts] 187 00:10:24,790 --> 00:10:24,800 » [snorts] 188 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:26,230 >> through, I was thinking, "Okay, well, 189 00:10:26,230 --> 00:10:26,240 » through, I was thinking, "Okay, well, 190 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:27,840 this is a cost savings." And then I 191 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:28,880 thought, 192 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,240 "Well, there's an opportunity for us to 193 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:33,880 cost save at the budget time as well as 194 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,480 how do we deal with our whole the 195 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:38,480 holistic approach within the Town of 196 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:41,080 Innisfil?" So, I not only do I look at 197 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,560 this with meetings, but also look at all 198 00:10:43,560 --> 00:10:45,560 our spending. And so, 199 00:10:45,560 --> 00:10:47,800 I guess the the rationale makes sense to 200 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:50,480 me where you're coming from. Um I'm kind 201 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:53,120 of 50/50 on it right now cuz I've had to 202 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:55,360 flush it out and think it through. But 203 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:59,520 also, I see for me some concerns. And 204 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:01,839 this is where I look at it as it 205 00:11:01,839 --> 00:11:04,360 you know, like it it's a cost at the end 206 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:05,880 of the day. But I also look at the 207 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:07,760 administration side of things where 208 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:10,960 we're able to we we potentially could 209 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:13,920 have a new CAO coming on stream. So, how 210 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,000 I look at it as a governor is going, 211 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:17,720 "How do we build that relationship? How 212 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:19,680 do we have that ongoing relationship 213 00:11:19,680 --> 00:11:22,760 with our new CAO, any changes along the 214 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,200 way this next year, and continue on 215 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:26,880 building on that?" So, I look at that 216 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:29,200 $10,000 cost and I go, 217 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:30,960 "We could call we can call a meeting at 218 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:34,320 any time, right? Which I get. But 219 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:36,960 sometimes how I look at it it's it's 220 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,040 like team building. We've only been here 221 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,520 10 months and it's getting to know one 222 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:43,320 another in our roles 223 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,160 and how we do things. And that's how I 224 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,480 look at I'm looking at this as a, you 225 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:49,160 know, guy that's been around the table. 226 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:52,160 I've seen it. Very busy at times. I I 227 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:53,640 would say 228 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:56,640 uh in my time, I think last round was a 229 00:11:56,640 --> 00:12:00,280 little busier at times, like big time. 230 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:01,720 And we don't know what's coming down the 231 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:04,920 pipes. And so when I look at a $10,000 232 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:07,480 savings, I and and then I think of the 233 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:09,640 big picture, I think of if we want to 234 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:11,960 save money, there's there's ways to save 235 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:15,960 money and to be prudent. And so like I I 236 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,640 don't know if I'm on board. I I think 237 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:20,760 where I'd be on board discussing this 238 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:22,240 would be through budget when we're 239 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,040 dealing with our budgets. 240 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:25,840 And we're and we're trying to nail down 241 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:28,240 where we're going to go as a team. And I 242 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:30,720 think that's where where I'm heading 243 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:32,680 with this one. So 244 00:12:32,680 --> 00:12:35,320 you know, I just wanted to enter the the 245 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:36,720 debate of 246 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:39,480 having this discussion with us as a team 247 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:41,880 and seeing where everybody else is at. 248 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:43,480 So thank you. 249 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:45,510 >> Okay. Thank you, counselor. 250 00:12:45,510 --> 00:12:45,520 » Okay. Thank you, counselor. 251 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:47,160 I stat, did you want to respond to the 252 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:47,480 counselor? 253 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:49,430 >> I could. I I get where you're coming 254 00:12:49,430 --> 00:12:49,440 » I could. I I get where you're coming 255 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:50,920 from. Um 256 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:54,080 the $10,000 is is I think uh 257 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:55,480 it is a savings. I think it's going to 258 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:57,040 be more than that when we hear back from 259 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:58,280 administration because they haven't 260 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:00,640 factored in the administrative side. 261 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:02,839 Um we have a number of times that we get 262 00:13:02,839 --> 00:13:04,720 together outside of these where we have 263 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,040 meetings on different topics. We just 264 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,280 had one last week where we spent 3 hours 265 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:12,680 together. Um there are the conferences 266 00:13:12,680 --> 00:13:15,480 that that some go to that that provides 267 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:17,680 for that. For me, it's about being the 268 00:13:17,680 --> 00:13:19,600 most efficient and doing the good job 269 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:21,960 that we can and and building building a 270 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:23,839 relationship with the CEO. I would argue 271 00:13:23,839 --> 00:13:25,520 from a CA or from administrative 272 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:27,440 perspective when I was on that side in a 273 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:29,520 different organization 274 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:31,000 that 275 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:32,480 having to prepare for one less meeting 276 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:35,080 in my first year would be a godsend 277 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,440 rather than having that extra meeting to 278 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:39,520 prepare for. So, there's there's two 279 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:41,960 sides to that coin as well. So, but it's 280 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:43,040 interesting to have the debate. I 281 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:44,360 thought I'd bring it forward. I It's 282 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:45,840 pretty clear where my thoughts are on 283 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:47,840 it, but I thought I'd bring it forward. 284 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:48,560 So. 285 00:13:48,560 --> 00:13:50,430 >> Okay. Thank you, Councillor Hill. 286 00:13:50,430 --> 00:13:50,440 » Okay. Thank you, Councillor Hill. 287 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,270 >> Yes, thank you. Um I think that I would 288 00:13:52,270 --> 00:13:52,280 » Yes, thank you. Um I think that I would 289 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:54,080 definitely be in favor of the trial 290 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,160 period. Um 291 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,160 you know, having things work efficiently 292 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:00,960 with administration and council, if 293 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:02,480 there is that shortfall or we find 294 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:04,360 ourselves having to have 295 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:06,080 multiple emergency meetings within that 296 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:08,000 time frame, obviously, that'll be our 297 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:09,480 good indicator. 298 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:10,480 But as long as we're serving the 299 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:11,600 community 300 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:13,160 in the same capacity we are and we're 301 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:15,480 not having dropping the ball in any any 302 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:17,280 way, shape or form or 303 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:19,200 Um I would have no problem with with the 304 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:21,960 trial of this cuz 6 months does fly by 305 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:23,360 pretty quick and it would be pretty It's 306 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:24,360 a long enough time that it would 307 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:26,400 actually be you know, something that 308 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:28,400 gives us an actual good picture if it's 309 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:31,160 going to be beneficial or not. So, I 310 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:33,000 would I would have no problem trying it 311 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:34,560 with the the intent that if it doesn't 312 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:35,920 work, we'll turn right back to what we 313 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:37,520 were doing. 314 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:38,790 >> So, what you're asking for right now, 315 00:14:38,790 --> 00:14:38,800 » So, what you're asking for right now, 316 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:40,040 Councillor Russell, is for 317 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:41,720 administration to bring back a report, 318 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:43,320 correct? You We're not making a decision 319 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,360 today whether to do it or not do it. So, 320 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:48,000 anybody else? Councillor Wing. 321 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:48,550 >> Yeah, I 322 00:14:48,550 --> 00:14:48,560 » Yeah, I 323 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:49,990 >> Thank you for that clarification, Mayor 324 00:14:49,990 --> 00:14:50,000 » Thank you for that clarification, Mayor 325 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:51,880 Barkley, and thank you for the the 326 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:53,280 notice of motion and I look forward to 327 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,240 the debate in when it comes forward to 328 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:57,720 council next. Thanks. 329 00:14:57,720 --> 00:14:59,110 >> Yeah, I know and I appreciate this, too, 330 00:14:59,110 --> 00:14:59,120 » Yeah, I know and I appreciate this, too, 331 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:01,160 and and we can take a look at it and 332 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:02,880 back to Councillor Highstead's comments 333 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,160 about last year. I mean, we we came out 334 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:08,160 of the gate with an extremely ambitious 335 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:10,400 agenda. We think of 336 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:11,960 outdoor rink, three playgrounds, a 337 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,440 heliport, an aquatic center, industrial 338 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,040 park, residential subdivision. Like, it 339 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,520 was massive. And I I think things ebb 340 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:22,080 and flow. So, we came out of the gate 341 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,400 fairly aggressively and and very 342 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:27,200 ambitiously and you can only pile so 343 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,200 much on administration's plate until you 344 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:31,240 kind of have to say, "Okay, well, um 345 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,280 they now need to to catch up." I I look 346 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:35,920 what we're doing right now and and I 347 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:38,200 know we still have stuff that's been 348 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:41,080 carried over from from last term, but 349 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:42,640 you know, we also have a lot of work 350 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:45,080 that we need to start looking at and I 351 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:46,840 know in the CEO report there's mention 352 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:48,320 of it, but um 353 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:49,840 you know, what what are we doing next 354 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,840 for housing? Um are we in the game, out 355 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:54,840 of the game? Seniors housing, I've had 356 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:57,280 people tap my shoulder about schools in 357 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,240 this community and what are we doing and 358 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:00,880 um 359 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:02,640 you know, I always also look at 360 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:04,360 industrial going forward and commercial 361 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:06,320 going forward and and where are we going 362 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:09,440 in the next 5, 10, 15, 20 years? So, I I 363 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:11,080 think there's a lot of work that that 364 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:13,520 needs to wrap up again and and uh as 365 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:15,560 Councillor Highstead also said, a new 366 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:17,720 CEO will be coming on board, so there's 367 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:19,200 that part of it, too, but I I I 368 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:20,920 certainly don't have any 369 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:22,160 issue 370 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:24,200 supporting what what you've put on to to 371 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:26,520 have a report coming come back from 372 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:28,720 administration and I think at times, I 373 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:30,280 know in the past we've had agendas that 374 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:32,600 have been extremely long and well over 375 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,320 200 pages and and that's not healthy, 376 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:37,360 either, because uh you can only read so 377 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:39,720 much when you get the agenda on Friday 378 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:42,360 and the meeting's on Monday and uh I 379 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:43,839 have sat here when we started meetings 380 00:16:43,839 --> 00:16:45,960 at 7:00 at night and we've been sitting 381 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:49,880 here at till 11:00 and uh it makes Now 382 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:51,320 now we start at 3:00, but there have 383 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:52,839 been times where we've gone through 6:00 384 00:16:52,839 --> 00:16:54,839 and I know recently that that certainly 385 00:16:54,839 --> 00:16:56,760 hasn't been the case, but who knows 386 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,280 what's what's coming um in the future, 387 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:01,320 but certainly support this, Councillor 388 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:06,000 Russell would no issue with that. 389 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:07,079 Okay. 390 00:17:07,079 --> 00:17:09,000 Okay, so we have a motion on the floor. 391 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:12,000 Um all in favor of the motion? 392 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,280 Okay. 393 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:16,640 Carried unanimously. Thank you. 394 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,560 So, we'll move into our 4.2 and the CAO 395 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:20,680 report. 396 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:21,790 >> Thanks, Mayor Barkley. Uh with the 397 00:17:21,790 --> 00:17:21,800 » Thanks, Mayor Barkley. Uh with the 398 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:23,280 council, I'll just uh highlight in the 399 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:25,640 report the aquatic center will be closed 400 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:27,720 at the end of the month, August 31st, 401 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:30,920 until uh September 30th to address the 402 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:33,120 final warranty and deficiency work. 403 00:17:33,120 --> 00:17:35,600 Um there's uh some items uh listed in 404 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:39,120 the report of the primary focus areas. 405 00:17:39,120 --> 00:17:39,760 Um 406 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,800 with a fall schedule to start back up um 407 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:44,880 September 14th. Any more detailed 408 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,280 questions refer over to the director. Um 409 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:48,360 other than that, that's my report, 410 00:17:48,360 --> 00:17:50,800 council. 411 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:52,230 >> Okay. Does anybody have any questions 412 00:17:52,230 --> 00:17:52,240 » Okay. Does anybody have any questions 413 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,840 for CAO Becker on his report? 414 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:56,880 No? I'll just have a motion then that we 415 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,080 um accept the report as presented. 416 00:17:59,080 --> 00:17:59,880 Councillor Russell. 417 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:01,710 >> Um Mayor Barkley, I'll make that motion. 418 00:18:01,710 --> 00:18:01,720 » Um Mayor Barkley, I'll make that motion. 419 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:03,950 >> Okay. All in favor. 420 00:18:03,950 --> 00:18:03,960 » Okay. All in favor. 421 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:05,920 Right. It carried. Thank you. 422 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:07,600 And we'll move into council action 423 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:09,280 control. 424 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:12,000 Um there's a few items on here. Uh few 425 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:13,640 red items 426 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:15,320 that have been completed. So, does 427 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:17,400 anybody have any questions about um 428 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:21,080 anything on council action control? 429 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:22,920 Don't see any. Just have a motion then 430 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:24,640 that we accept council action control as 431 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:26,040 presented. Councillor Highstead. 432 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:27,910 >> Mayor Barkley, I'll make the motion to 433 00:18:27,910 --> 00:18:27,920 » Mayor Barkley, I'll make the motion to 434 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,720 uh accept the council action control. 435 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:32,750 >> Thank you. Just have a one question that 436 00:18:32,750 --> 00:18:32,760 » Thank you. Just have a one question that 437 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:35,040 the Dorts Lake parking lot um Director 438 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:36,840 Kennedy, is that when when is that 439 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:40,680 starting, do you foresee? 440 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:43,350 >> Hi, Mayor Barkley. Um we are still on 441 00:18:43,350 --> 00:18:43,360 » Hi, Mayor Barkley. Um we are still on 442 00:18:43,360 --> 00:18:45,000 the approval side for the landfill or 443 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:46,160 the land 444 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:48,880 um land farming. So, I was just chatting 445 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:51,840 with uh Howells, the contractor. Likely, 446 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:53,560 it's uh the beginning of September is 447 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:54,640 when we'll be starting. 448 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:56,750 >> Perfect. Thank you for that. 449 00:18:56,750 --> 00:18:56,760 » Perfect. Thank you for that. 450 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,560 Okay. So, we have a motion to accept um 451 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:02,840 council action control. All in favor? 452 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:04,720 Carried. 453 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:07,600 Okay. And we'll get into 5.1 454 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:09,800 with uh Director Jenkins. 455 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:11,310 >> Thank you, Mayor Barkley. Uh so, we're 456 00:19:11,310 --> 00:19:11,320 » Thank you, Mayor Barkley. Uh so, we're 457 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,720 looking to provide uh some options for 458 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,160 consideration for council 459 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:17,760 uh working towards developing a more 460 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:19,760 structured sponsorship and naming rights 461 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:22,480 program uh for our recreational 462 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:23,920 facilities. 463 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:25,720 Uh so the town currently generates just 464 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:27,600 over $25,000 465 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:30,200 uh from advertising. This is primarily 466 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:31,760 achieved through the rink board 467 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:33,680 advertisements and other internal 468 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,200 signage at the arena. 469 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,560 Based on sort of comparable municipal 470 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:40,920 programs, we could look to increase this 471 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:41,520 um 472 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:44,320 by up to $100,000 annually through the 473 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:46,200 addition of assets and dedicated 474 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,400 marketing. Um 475 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:50,680 So the report goes on to provide 476 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:52,640 four different 477 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,200 approaches that could be considered. Um 478 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:58,480 the first being a comprehensive internal 479 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:00,080 sponsorship program. So this would be 480 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:03,040 looking to do this work internally. 481 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,040 Would likely require uh additional 482 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:08,400 specialized staff uh in order to create 483 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,320 uh not only the asset inventory and the 484 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:13,120 policy structure, but do the work uh in 485 00:20:13,120 --> 00:20:17,560 the community to market uh said assets. 486 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:20,120 Uh the second option is looking to go 487 00:20:20,120 --> 00:20:22,880 entirely through a a third-party 488 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:24,240 uh company 489 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:27,160 where essentially that third party is 490 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,840 given the rights to sell those assets uh 491 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:31,920 for commission. 492 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:32,480 Uh 493 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,880 and the town would would achieve the 494 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:38,400 revenue um without much on our own 495 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,680 administrative side. 496 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,640 Option three is essentially um sort of 497 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,360 what we're doing right now. Um primarily 498 00:20:46,360 --> 00:20:49,080 working with local businesses um 499 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:52,760 utilizing existing staff um to promote. 500 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:54,520 This would include creating sort of a 501 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:56,680 new advertising package for the aquatic 502 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,440 center, um but again not necessarily 503 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:01,960 dedicated staff out um 504 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:03,480 sort of pounding the pavement looking 505 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,800 for these opportunities. 506 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,400 Uh Uh, the final uh option, which is 507 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,680 what uh administration's recommending 508 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:12,200 for consideration, is a hybrid 509 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:15,640 sponsorship model. Uh, so looking to 510 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:17,920 engage a third party 511 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:19,680 on the front end to develop that 512 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,800 inventory and policy structure for us. 513 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,360 Um, and then after an initial sales 514 00:21:25,360 --> 00:21:27,960 period, that would transfer over to the 515 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,200 town to manage. Um, so we would be 516 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,480 administering the agreements um, and 517 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,960 continuing on those efforts moving 518 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:36,480 forward. 519 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,760 Um, the financial impacts of that 520 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:41,640 approach is estimated to be about 521 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,760 $30,000 um, for that initial evaluation 522 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,640 and framework development. Um, they 523 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,280 would have an initial period, 3 to 6 524 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:53,240 months is sort of the estimate um, to do 525 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,600 initial sales um, of which they would 526 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:59,080 receive a 20% commission. Then those um, 527 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:00,840 agreements as well as sort of the 528 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:02,680 marketing materials would be passed over 529 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,360 for the town to uh, administer on an 530 00:22:05,360 --> 00:22:08,280 ongoing basis, which would then require 531 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,880 um, some additional um, 532 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:12,840 staff resources to manage and keep that 533 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:14,280 program up. 534 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:17,640 Um, so if council is um, interested in 535 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,040 pursuing 536 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:22,320 any of those options, um, we are looking 537 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,880 to have that direction and then we would 538 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:26,960 include that information 539 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,360 um, in the operating budget. Uh, so the 540 00:22:29,360 --> 00:22:31,440 recommended motion is looking at that 541 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,880 option four, um, but council can make 542 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:35,440 those adjustments and we'll have more 543 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,440 specific numbers 544 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,080 uh, for presentation in budget if there 545 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:42,400 is um, appetite to direct resources 546 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,320 towards uh, expanding the sponsorship 547 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:46,480 program. 548 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,230 >> Okay. Thank you, Director Jenkins. Uh, 549 00:22:48,230 --> 00:22:48,240 » Okay. Thank you, Director Jenkins. Uh, 550 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:49,360 could I please have someone make the 551 00:22:49,360 --> 00:22:51,800 recommended motion, Councillor Wing? 552 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:53,430 >> Thank you, Mayor Barkley. I would move 553 00:22:53,430 --> 00:22:53,440 » Thank you, Mayor Barkley. I would move 554 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,480 that council direct administration to 555 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,360 include a formal sponsorship and naming 556 00:22:57,360 --> 00:22:59,720 rights program supported by a policy 557 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:01,720 framework, asset valuation and marketing 558 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,240 strategy In general accordance with the 559 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,200 hybrid model described in this report as 560 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,480 a project for consideration 561 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,000 in the 2027 operating budget. And I just 562 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:12,440 have a couple of comments. If I can 563 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,040 Thank you, Director Jenkins, for the 564 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,640 work. Um I think you've done a lot of 565 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,880 thinking about this and put a lot of um 566 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:22,040 good uh options out in front of us. 567 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:25,200 Um I think for all of us Well, any of us 568 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,280 that have spent time in other municipal 569 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,440 assets in other communities, 570 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,560 I we are definitely missing out on 571 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:33,360 revenue, but we're also missing out on 572 00:23:33,360 --> 00:23:34,840 providing opportunities to local 573 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:36,360 business. We have a lot of people coming 574 00:23:36,360 --> 00:23:38,960 into our community from outside that 575 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:40,640 when they're when you're stuck in in the 576 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,280 arena for a tournament all weekend, if 577 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,240 you're seeing the names and the and the 578 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:46,640 advertisements from our local 579 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,120 businesses, it gets just It's just 580 00:23:48,120 --> 00:23:49,080 different. It gives you a better 581 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,240 opportunity to be supportive. 582 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:52,360 Um 583 00:23:52,360 --> 00:23:53,960 of course, programs like this are always 584 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,360 donor or sponsor focused. So, even with 585 00:23:57,360 --> 00:24:00,080 um a hybrid model, a successful program 586 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:01,880 is always responsive to whoever we're 587 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:03,160 working with. 588 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,800 Um third party, I believe, is essential 589 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:07,840 to get us started. Certainly, the 590 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:09,880 expertise is not something that we would 591 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,000 typically find on staff here and 592 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,400 shouldn't, actually. And the dedicated 593 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,000 time will be important just to get 594 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,920 things launched. The reality is you're 595 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:19,120 going to have to pay somebody, so you 596 00:24:19,120 --> 00:24:20,440 may as well be paying somebody to start 597 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,120 with that has a the skill set to get the 598 00:24:22,120 --> 00:24:23,680 work done efficiently. 599 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,000 And the program then in the future can 600 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:27,760 generate its own overhead revenue. So, 601 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,480 it should be 602 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,240 I would anticipate that it would be a 603 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:32,800 successful program that would pay for 604 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,000 its own pay for its cost plus put 605 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,040 revenue into the budget for us. So, 606 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,160 thank you for your work. 607 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,830 >> Okay. Thank you, Council Heisted. 608 00:24:41,830 --> 00:24:41,840 » Okay. Thank you, Council Heisted. 609 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:43,910 >> Um actually, Mayor Barkley, Council 610 00:24:43,910 --> 00:24:43,920 » Um actually, Mayor Barkley, Council 611 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:45,040 Russell put his 612 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:46,950 >> I didn't see his name on first, so 613 00:24:46,950 --> 00:24:46,960 » I didn't see his name on first, so 614 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:48,070 >> could you be in all places? 615 00:24:48,070 --> 00:24:48,080 » could you be in all places? 616 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,132 >> I'm I'm just keep your head up. 617 00:24:50,132 --> 00:24:50,142 » I'm I'm just keep your head up. 618 00:24:50,142 --> 00:24:51,710 >> [laughter] 619 00:24:51,710 --> 00:24:51,720 » [laughter] 620 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,030 >> Uh thanks, Mayor Barkley. Um I I too, 621 00:24:54,030 --> 00:24:54,040 » Uh thanks, Mayor Barkley. Um I I too, 622 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:55,840 anything that can increase revenue and 623 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,560 and and help us in that area. Um that's 624 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,320 not tax base is great. Um 625 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,880 I guess the numbers 626 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:05,320 when I look at if it's if we only can 627 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,800 generate 50 and we're spending 45, you 628 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:09,160 know, and I'd like to see a bit more 629 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,840 detail there, but it's a lot of work if 630 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:13,840 it's just going to be a wash, but if 631 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:15,560 there's potential for 100,000 and we can 632 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,920 reach that, it has potentially add 50, 633 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,480 55,000 to the revenue every year. So, I 634 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,160 think it's something certainly for us to 635 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:24,520 consider and like the motion says, I 636 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,040 don't think we're making a decision on 637 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:27,320 it today other than that we're going to 638 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,520 consider it in our operating budget. So, 639 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,160 I might certainly be in support of 640 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:32,640 delving into this a bit more. 641 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:33,470 >> Okay. 642 00:25:33,470 --> 00:25:33,480 » Okay. 643 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,360 Thank you, Councillor Heystead. 644 00:25:35,360 --> 00:25:36,390 >> Thanks Mayor. 645 00:25:36,390 --> 00:25:36,400 » Thanks Mayor. 646 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:37,960 Thanks Mayor Barclay. 647 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:39,440 I'm going to speak to this as a 648 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,840 Councillor as well as a board member of 649 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,200 the Innisfail Eagles. 650 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:45,880 I'm the guy that goes around and and 651 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:47,720 tries to market the team as well as we 652 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:51,400 can and try to coordinate our efforts at 653 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,560 the the arena and I think there's 654 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,720 there's an opportunity to have some 655 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,920 assistance from a a third party that's 656 00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:59,560 going to help the community on this, but 657 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,480 I do and I and I did express this last 658 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,400 time when we we were changing the policy 659 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,760 about 10 months ago as I think 660 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,160 you know, this is and if anybody has any 661 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,600 questions about what I'm saying, please 662 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,360 ask. But you know, there's opportunity 663 00:26:14,360 --> 00:26:16,080 for those groups like the Eagles, the 664 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:17,880 Mavs, the 665 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,240 the uh figure skating club and the 666 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,240 Phantoms uh minor, you know, minor 667 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,280 hockey, minor lacrosse. I think there's 668 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,280 a opportunity for them to help sell the 669 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,040 sponsorship as well as long as they have 670 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,160 a clear package readily available. They 671 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:33,800 they can help. They have those 672 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,160 relationships with different businesses 673 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:37,800 not only in Innisfail, but Central 674 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,320 Alberta and I think that's good for our 675 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,840 community. If if Innisfail wins and 676 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,920 those minor sports teams win, I think 677 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,840 that that would be a great uh model that 678 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,520 I had I brought forward about 10, 12 679 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:52,800 months ago, 680 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,280 but uh yeah, I'm open to this. I think 681 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,320 there's tons of opportunities in all our 682 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,040 facilities. So 683 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:03,280 we'll see where we land. Thanks. 684 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,310 >> Okay, thank you. 685 00:27:05,310 --> 00:27:05,320 » Okay, thank you. 686 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:06,920 Anybody else? 687 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:08,920 So Director Jenkins with with the 688 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,320 recreation master plan 689 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,720 would this kind of fold into that work 690 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:15,840 or 691 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,190 >> So not the specifics. The rec master 692 00:27:18,190 --> 00:27:18,200 » So not the specifics. The rec master 693 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,320 plan will give us some financial models 694 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,200 and and compare us to other 695 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:23,640 municipalities whether that's with 696 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,800 respect to user fees or or even some of 697 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,200 these. 698 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:28,800 Where the external consultant for this 699 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:30,400 is going to specifically come in and 700 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,560 value the assets. 701 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,200 How many visitors are going by? What 702 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,600 dollar value should that equate to? 703 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,800 And then they often have 704 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,240 some of those regional and national 705 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,920 connections for for larger businesses 706 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:48,880 that may um 707 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:50,760 that they have have those relationships 708 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,760 built with where someone locally may not 709 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:55,480 have those contacts. 710 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,390 >> Yeah, for sure. Thank you. Counselor 711 00:27:57,390 --> 00:27:57,400 » Yeah, for sure. Thank you. Counselor 712 00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:58,040 Heisted. 713 00:27:58,040 --> 00:27:59,430 >> Yeah, and and the last thing I'm going 714 00:27:59,430 --> 00:27:59,440 » Yeah, and and the last thing I'm going 715 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,120 to say I'm going to 716 00:28:01,120 --> 00:28:03,320 Mayor Barkley is Counselor Wing had a 717 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,160 good comment. Like our our staff our 718 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,440 internal staff they're not you know, 719 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,400 their backgrounds to run the arena, do 720 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,240 the their day-to-day jobs and not to you 721 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,520 know, they can market 722 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,120 some of the work that's going on, but I 723 00:28:17,120 --> 00:28:20,360 think that they've done a good job over 724 00:28:20,360 --> 00:28:22,440 the years trying to do this, but I think 725 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,760 there's there's way more opportunities 726 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,800 to generate revenue for the community. 727 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,960 So not saying don't shut them out. Maybe 728 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:32,600 they'll they'll learn something from 729 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,120 this as well. 730 00:28:34,120 --> 00:28:35,960 But that's where I'm coming from. 731 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,760 Thanks. And Counselor Wing if I'm 732 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,440 offside on what you were getting at 733 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,080 tell me. Thanks. 734 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:44,230 >> Counselor Hill. 735 00:28:44,230 --> 00:28:44,240 » Counselor Hill. 736 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,590 >> Yeah, I I think this is awesome. There's 737 00:28:47,590 --> 00:28:47,600 » Yeah, I I think this is awesome. There's 738 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,880 I think there's been too many individual 739 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:51,520 efforts for between all the different 740 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,000 user groups 741 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,600 to try to generate dollars here and and 742 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,400 recognition for local business and it's 743 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,160 been kind of individual efforts and I 744 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,240 think by going through this process we 745 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,240 could hopefully get a streamlined 746 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,320 process that would make it a lot more 747 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,160 easy for businesses to to see you know 748 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,600 what is a $500 sponsorship what is a 749 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,000 $5,000 sponsorship and there's levels of 750 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,080 playing field for everybody 751 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,680 and and then creates the the fairness of 752 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,680 of you know where can you advertise for 753 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,640 how long and it just has a set criteria 754 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,360 versus having to deal with different 755 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,480 user groups and having to come back and 756 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:30,800 and then obviously you know user groups 757 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:32,920 are and are usually volunteers so they 758 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,040 might not get the same professional 759 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,080 response or timing that you would want. 760 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:38,720 So having something this I think would 761 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,920 really sharpen the pencil on 762 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,720 on the sponsorships for our community. 763 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,030 >> Thank you and I and I particularly like 764 00:29:46,030 --> 00:29:46,040 » Thank you and I and I particularly like 765 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:47,920 the the asset valuation as well. I mean 766 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,135 we focus a lot on the arena 767 00:29:50,135 --> 00:29:50,150 >> [clears throat] 768 00:29:50,150 --> 00:29:50,160 » [clears throat] 769 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:51,870 >> but we also have other facilities that 770 00:29:51,870 --> 00:29:51,880 » but we also have other facilities that 771 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,120 are available to that we're we're not um 772 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,560 not taking advantage of right now. So um 773 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,480 we we have a a motion on the floor so 774 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,520 there's no further comments so I'll ask 775 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,480 all in favor. 776 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,720 Okay, carried unanimously. Thank you. 777 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:09,920 Okay and we'll go on to correspondence 778 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,160 and information. 779 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,960 So um couple of things we talked before 780 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,000 about uh the 52nd Avenue email that I 781 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,080 think has been addressed with um 782 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,680 Director Leaf in the past. Um 783 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,600 also that the Founders Cup this was kind 784 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,440 of a Did you want to talk speak to that 785 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,240 Seal Becker or do you want me me to 786 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:29,720 carry on or 787 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,230 >> I just wanted to explain uh 788 00:30:32,230 --> 00:30:32,240 » I just wanted to explain uh 789 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,400 my practice on the letter support. Well 790 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,760 90% of the time we'd have letter support 791 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,160 come directly from council. This one 792 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,040 came in the very last day 793 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,400 um through administration like that 794 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:43,880 potential conflict with other users, 795 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:45,840 looked like the window was open. 796 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:47,960 I went ahead and provided letter support 797 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,640 without your authorization. But again, 798 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,240 normally we would try to get to you just 799 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:53,680 to make sure we're streamlined, you're 800 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,680 aware what's coming. 801 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,840 Um, but this is why it's in your agenda 802 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,000 uh today. 803 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,870 >> Um, also add uh they've also reached out 804 00:31:02,870 --> 00:31:02,880 » Um, also add uh they've also reached out 805 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,720 to ask about sponsoring the the team 806 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:07,400 going to nationals. Uh we we do have a 807 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,240 policy in place that does not provide 808 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,520 for that kind of support. We would um 809 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,920 potentially look at support for if they 810 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:16,800 did get the the national tournament 811 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,640 here. But uh we I think that policy is 812 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,560 from a couple years ago if if I recall 813 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,400 and so anyway that it's there. I can we 814 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,200 can discuss that if you like. Um, 815 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:33,110 also there's a letter from 816 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,160 the regional rec facility. 817 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,390 >> If I could just highlight that one to 818 00:31:37,390 --> 00:31:37,400 » If I could just highlight that one to 819 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,080 council. Just so this letter came to you 820 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:41,920 uh for the date there. Um, 821 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:43,320 administration is intending to come back 822 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,080 to you in 2 weeks with a 823 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:46,440 with a um 824 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,320 with a report a little bit more detail. 825 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:49,880 Um, looking for your for your guidance 826 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,920 but today is for your information 827 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,960 knowing that it's um to you. And again, 828 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:56,240 we'll come back to you in in with more 829 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:57,560 detail in a couple weeks. 830 00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:58,990 >> Okay, thank you. 831 00:31:58,990 --> 00:31:59,000 » Okay, thank you. 832 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:03,280 And also uh email from uh Mr. Long. Um, 833 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:04,600 see you back. I'm wondering has that 834 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,280 been passed on to Director Leith? 835 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:08,440 Or 836 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,920 what are we doing with um with his 837 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:12,800 suggestions? I I know he's very involved 838 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:14,560 in the men's shed with the the bike 839 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:15,880 program and 840 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:17,390 >> And then directly to your question, it 841 00:32:17,390 --> 00:32:17,400 » And then directly to your question, it 842 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,280 was highlighted to to the director um 843 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:20,400 this morning 844 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:21,760 um knowing that it's coming before you 845 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:23,400 for for dialogue. I'm certainly 846 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,520 listening to your dialogue today and 847 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:26,960 we'll we'll take it from there but so 848 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,000 the director has been informed about his 849 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:29,520 uh letter. 850 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,350 >> Do do you have any um 851 00:32:31,350 --> 00:32:31,360 » Do do you have any um 852 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,320 any advice on it from either one of you 853 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:34,640 as far as I mean I mean I think we 854 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,520 should respond to to Ray because he took 855 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,000 the time to to send this in, but um 856 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:40,600 would that come from 857 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,402 you, Director Leith, or 858 00:32:42,402 --> 00:32:45,070 >> [snorts] 859 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,200 » Uh Your Worship, yes, the initial 860 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,400 response will come from me if you wish 861 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,760 me to share that response. I I'm open to 862 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:52,720 do that. 863 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:54,510 >> Yeah, we'll 864 00:32:54,510 --> 00:32:54,520 » Yeah, we'll 865 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:55,870 >> Yeah, I guess the discussion will have 866 00:32:55,870 --> 00:32:55,880 » Yeah, I guess the discussion will have 867 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:57,920 any dialogue amongst the letters 868 00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,280 addressed to you. Um certainly we'll 869 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,000 take it based on your dialogue, um but 870 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:03,400 certainly we'll follow up with that. 871 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:04,630 >> Okay, but you don't need a motion for 872 00:33:04,630 --> 00:33:04,640 » Okay, but you don't need a motion for 873 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:05,040 that. 874 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:05,910 >> I'll see you back in your room. 875 00:33:05,910 --> 00:33:05,920 » I'll see you back in your room. 876 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,270 >> No, you're good. Okay, yeah. Okay, no, 877 00:33:08,270 --> 00:33:08,280 » No, you're good. Okay, yeah. Okay, no, 878 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:09,320 thank you 879 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,000 for that. Um Councillor Wing. 880 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:12,830 >> And just we'll respond also to the 881 00:33:12,830 --> 00:33:12,840 » And just we'll respond also to the 882 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:14,600 Moffatts regarding the work that we have 883 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,680 already discussed relative to the speed 884 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:18,840 limit on 52nd and monitoring that. 885 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:20,630 >> I think we did already. Yeah, do okay. 886 00:33:20,630 --> 00:33:20,640 » I think we did already. Yeah, do okay. 887 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,750 Thank you. 888 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:25,320 Okay. 889 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:26,080 Councillor Highstead. 890 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,070 >> Yeah, Mayor Barclay, as to the letter 891 00:33:28,070 --> 00:33:28,080 » Yeah, Mayor Barclay, as to the letter 892 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,240 regarding the e-bikes and all that, I 893 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:31,240 think 894 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:32,720 um I I 895 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:34,640 I think some of you know where I stand 896 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,240 on this, but 897 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,320 um 898 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,640 Director Leith, I I do see 899 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,120 uh lots of opportunity and I thank the 900 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,480 peace officers and administration for 901 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,160 making an effort to educate the 902 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,680 community on 903 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,200 rules. I kind of like the non-rules, 904 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:53,360 right? 905 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,400 I guess my concern, and this is this is 906 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,720 my pet peeve watching the national news 907 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,320 the last couple weeks, 908 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,600 if you watch CTV or any of the the news 909 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,240 uh broadcasts, 910 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,159 e-bikes and and scooters and all these 911 00:34:08,159 --> 00:34:11,200 issues that are it's finally really 912 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,720 taken off where the there's data on 913 00:34:13,720 --> 00:34:15,919 people really injur- injuring themselves 914 00:34:15,919 --> 00:34:20,000 and and I think it's, you know, 915 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,000 I my concern, you know, just living in a 916 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,120 small town, we don't we're trying to do 917 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,200 our best and I I look at this as an 918 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,440 opportunity with Minister Trevena in the 919 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,840 transportation side of things. He's in 920 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,600 our backyard. Like this is where 921 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,399 you know, our administration working 922 00:34:37,399 --> 00:34:38,679 with the 923 00:34:38,679 --> 00:34:40,800 Minister of Transportation on e-bikes 924 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,320 and and potentially how do we how do we 925 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,960 make this better in our own province is 926 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,280 that's how I'm looking at this. As to me 927 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,320 or doing my rounds, I've done all my 928 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,639 rounds. If if parents don't want to look 929 00:34:52,639 --> 00:34:54,200 after their kids and make sure their 930 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,120 kids have helmets on or um people aren't 931 00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,320 responsible, that's up to them, but 932 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:00,360 that's 933 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:01,920 uh Director Leith, I think there's an 934 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,440 opportunity for us to have that 935 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,560 conversation one-on-one with uh 936 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:07,120 uh 937 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,760 Minister Dreishin who's in our backyard. 938 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,880 And that's how I look at it. It's just 939 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:13,600 our we 940 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,760 our roles are so minimal compared to the 941 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:18,040 ministry. 942 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,200 And I think that you can only I can only 943 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,240 chirp so much. So I think it's it's upon 944 00:35:23,240 --> 00:35:25,640 us to have those conversations. 945 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:27,510 >> Just as a reminder, we we did have a 946 00:35:27,510 --> 00:35:27,520 » Just as a reminder, we we did have a 947 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,400 meeting with him. So CEO Becker, 948 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:30,800 Director Leith, and I had a meeting with 949 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,160 him what, 6 weeks ago, maybe a month ago 950 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,520 and and uh Director Leith really led the 951 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,120 meeting and and talked about it and the 952 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,640 province of Alberta is in the process. 953 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,560 Mentioned this before. They are 954 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,280 uh drafting new legislation around these 955 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,720 issues and um I know uh Director Leith 956 00:35:48,720 --> 00:35:51,120 also said at the time he was he had a I 957 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,000 think a a regional meeting with his 958 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:54,960 counterparts and they were also going to 959 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,320 submit some further documentation, but 960 00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,080 certainly the ministry is on top of it. 961 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:01,040 And [snorts] 962 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:01,840 um 963 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:03,640 they they are aware 964 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,080 of um 965 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:06,680 that the issue's out there and and they 966 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:07,680 are 967 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,230 trying to 968 00:36:10,240 --> 00:36:11,960 put some new legislation in place. So I 969 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:13,320 don't know if you've had any follow-up, 970 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,760 Director Leith, with with uh them or 971 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:18,230 >> No, you wish I had through to Councillor 972 00:36:18,230 --> 00:36:18,240 » No, you wish I had through to Councillor 973 00:36:18,240 --> 00:36:19,600 Haystead. Yeah, 974 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:20,600 I think 975 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,120 uh by watching the news locally is 976 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,120 you've seen lots of municipalities 977 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,840 stepping up and following suit now from 978 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:29,760 some of the stuff that I think we 979 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,000 initiated that that rolling ball so to 980 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:33,120 speak. 981 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:36,440 Um again, that frustration is as I think 982 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:37,840 uh Minister Dreeshen indicated that 983 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,480 April next year was likely when those 984 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,320 changes were going to come out and 985 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:44,520 hopefully we get through this summer 986 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,080 without any too serious an incident, but 987 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,040 yeah, it's an ongoing education piece 988 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,400 and we do the best with the resources we 989 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:51,960 have. 990 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,350 >> Thank you very much. 991 00:36:54,350 --> 00:36:54,360 » Thank you very much. 992 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,760 And we did ask if it could be speeded up 993 00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:58,680 from April, but not not sure that was a 994 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,160 yes. There's a a lot on the 995 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,800 the plate, so. 996 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,520 Okay, so um 997 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,040 there's nothing else. We'll just have a 998 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:09,960 motion that we accept the correspondence 999 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,670 as information. 1000 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,080 Councillor Wing, Mayor Barclay, I'll 1001 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:16,720 make the motion to accept correspondence 1002 00:37:16,720 --> 00:37:19,120 and information for information. Okay, 1003 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,480 thank you. All in favor. 1004 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,520 Okay, carried. Then we'll go around the 1005 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:24,880 table with our 1006 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:26,320 reports. 1007 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:27,360 Councillor Heistad. 1008 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,470 >> Yeah, my my report was pretty brief and 1009 00:37:29,470 --> 00:37:29,480 » Yeah, my my report was pretty brief and 1010 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,760 I've talked enough, so thank you. 1011 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,215 >> I think they're all brief. 1012 00:37:33,215 --> 00:37:33,225 » I think they're all brief. 1013 00:37:33,225 --> 00:37:34,070 >> [laughter] 1014 00:37:34,070 --> 00:37:34,080 » [laughter] 1015 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:35,150 >> Councillor Russell. 1016 00:37:35,150 --> 00:37:35,160 » Councillor Russell. 1017 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:36,590 >> Thanks, Mayor Barclay. I've talked a 1018 00:37:36,590 --> 00:37:36,600 » Thanks, Mayor Barclay. I've talked a 1019 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:37,760 lot, too, but I'm going to talk a bit 1020 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:38,040 more. 1021 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:38,430 >> Okay. 1022 00:37:38,430 --> 00:37:38,440 » Okay. 1023 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,310 >> Um my report is there, but I just wanted 1024 00:37:40,310 --> 00:37:40,320 » Um my report is there, but I just wanted 1025 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:41,720 to mention the Innisfil Kids Academy 1026 00:37:41,720 --> 00:37:43,720 grand opening that a few of us attended 1027 00:37:43,720 --> 00:37:45,080 and how impressed I was with the 1028 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:46,400 facility, 1029 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,080 but also the concern and justified that 1030 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:50,600 the provincial and federal government 1031 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:51,920 have not been able to sort out the 1032 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,400 funding for that $10 a day daycare. I 1033 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:55,560 don't know if there's anything we can 1034 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,920 do. That's that's on their their front, 1035 00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:59,520 but it's unfortunate that that hasn't 1036 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,040 been resolved yet for them, which would 1037 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,200 certainly help their business, but very 1038 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:04,560 impressed with the with what they've 1039 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,200 done over there. So. 1040 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,190 >> Thank you, Councillor Wing. 1041 00:38:10,190 --> 00:38:10,200 » Thank you, Councillor Wing. 1042 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,110 >> Thank you, Mayor Barclay. Um my report 1043 00:38:12,110 --> 00:38:12,120 » Thank you, Mayor Barclay. Um my report 1044 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,840 is included and just the only addition 1045 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:18,240 would be upcoming um the public budget 1046 00:38:18,240 --> 00:38:19,720 consultation next week that we'll be 1047 00:38:19,720 --> 00:38:21,680 having before we meet again for council, 1048 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:23,320 so I'll be there. Thank you. 1049 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,110 >> Okay, thank you. And counselor Strong? 1050 00:38:26,110 --> 00:38:26,120 » Okay, thank you. And counselor Strong? 1051 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:27,510 >> As submitted. 1052 00:38:27,510 --> 00:38:27,520 » As submitted. 1053 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,790 >> Thank you. Counselor Hill? 1054 00:38:29,790 --> 00:38:29,800 » Thank you. Counselor Hill? 1055 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:31,030 >> Um, [clears throat] 1056 00:38:31,030 --> 00:38:31,040 » Um, [clears throat] 1057 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,600 I had no not a lot on my plate for my 1058 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,200 council duties in the last couple weeks, 1059 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,040 so nothing to report. 1060 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:38,070 >> Okay. 1061 00:38:38,070 --> 00:38:38,080 » Okay. 1062 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:41,120 No worries. And um 1063 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,440 did speak with Minister Dreeshen about 1064 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:48,520 that situation like a while ago and um 1065 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,280 like the the money comes from the 1066 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:51,760 federal government to the provincial 1067 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:55,280 government to the the daycares and money 1068 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:59,080 runs out and so there wasn't much that 1069 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:02,590 could be done, but um 1070 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,040 I personally wouldn't mind finding out 1071 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,120 more information. I I think and maybe 1072 00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,280 sending a letter off to Minister 1073 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:13,080 Nicolaides about this situation. 1074 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,320 And CCing Minister Dreeshen on it since 1075 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,960 he's our MLA and and just the 1076 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:19,600 I think what was bothersome for me was 1077 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,040 the the letter that was dated up to June 1078 00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,160 4th, said the funding was cut off June 1079 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,680 4th. So he you have somebody that's put 1080 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:28,800 a great deal of money investment into 1081 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:32,360 this facility and thinking that 1082 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,120 they were going to 1083 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,240 get the subsidy and now they're not. I 1084 00:39:36,240 --> 00:39:37,320 mean they're they're going ahead 1085 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:38,560 obviously, but you're right, beautiful 1086 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,280 space and and they've done some amazing 1087 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,320 work there, so 1088 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:44,640 I don't know if you want a motion for 1089 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,600 that CEO Becker if we can just um 1090 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,880 can go ahead and describe a 1091 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:51,640 a letter on the situation, maybe work 1092 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:53,240 even with um 1093 00:39:53,240 --> 00:39:56,040 with Kids Academy owners with Parwinder 1094 00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,680 and his team to just get some more 1095 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:00,960 information around that and 1096 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:02,800 cuz it's a a bit bothersome the way it 1097 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:03,800 all 1098 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:05,430 >> Yeah, I think um 1099 00:40:05,430 --> 00:40:05,440 » Yeah, I think um 1100 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,360 if council is seeking more information 1101 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,440 on that program, a motion would be 1102 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,200 required just to 1103 00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:11,880 put it in play. 1104 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:13,390 >> I would like more information cuz I'm 1105 00:40:13,390 --> 00:40:13,400 » I would like more information cuz I'm 1106 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:14,880 not really sure how it all works. I 1107 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:16,160 believe Alberta and Saskatchewan are the 1108 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,000 only two provinces that have not signed 1109 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:19,320 an agreement with the federal government 1110 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,680 over the subsidized daycare, but yet 1111 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:23,480 they were still getting money. So, I'm 1112 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,520 I'm not sure how it works. 1113 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,200 Okay, so maybe I'll have somebody make a 1114 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:29,320 motion 1115 00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:33,440 that we direct administration to gather 1116 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,400 more information regarding 1117 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:36,670 >> The Tin Dale dog 1118 00:40:36,670 --> 00:40:36,680 » The Tin Dale dog 1119 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:37,270 >> daycare. 1120 00:40:37,270 --> 00:40:37,280 » daycare. 1121 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,590 >> Mayor Barclay, I'll make that motion. 1122 00:40:39,590 --> 00:40:39,600 » Mayor Barclay, I'll make that motion. 1123 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:40,760 How's that? 1124 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,200 So, did that make sense? 1125 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:43,270 >> Yeah. 1126 00:40:43,270 --> 00:40:43,280 » Yeah. 1127 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:43,840 Okay. 1128 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,950 >> Sorry for the gallery for the pain. 1129 00:40:46,950 --> 00:40:46,960 » Sorry for the gallery for the pain. 1130 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:51,720 Um yeah, just my motion that we 1131 00:40:51,720 --> 00:40:52,750 >> Yeah, I think 1132 00:40:52,750 --> 00:40:52,760 » Yeah, I think 1133 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:53,470 >> You got it. 1134 00:40:53,470 --> 00:40:53,480 » You got it. 1135 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,350 >> I think we have a council just uh 1136 00:40:55,350 --> 00:40:55,360 » I think we have a council just uh 1137 00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:56,880 you want the information regarding the 1138 00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:58,240 daycare subsidy program. 1139 00:40:58,240 --> 00:40:59,350 >> Mhm. 1140 00:40:59,350 --> 00:40:59,360 » Mhm. 1141 00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:00,790 >> Thanks. 1142 00:41:00,790 --> 00:41:00,800 » Thanks. 1143 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,030 >> Okay, all in favor. 1144 00:41:03,030 --> 00:41:03,040 » Okay, all in favor. 1145 00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:04,480 Carried. 1146 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:05,400 Okay. 1147 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,800 And our my report, I I have nothing 1148 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,880 further. A little bit late as well. Um 1149 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,240 I must say um 1150 00:41:13,240 --> 00:41:15,280 wasn't a council event, but I 1151 00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:16,760 did have I was at something where 1152 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,720 counselor counselor Boss Doug Boss um 1153 00:41:19,720 --> 00:41:22,160 presented and uh it's absolutely amazing 1154 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,160 what's going on at Discovery Wildlife 1155 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,040 Park. So, I'm looking forward. I know 1156 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:28,000 that we are trying to get a a date set 1157 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,840 up to to go there as council and um 1158 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:32,480 you know, there 1159 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,720 27 km of Christmas lights they're 1160 00:41:34,720 --> 00:41:37,080 beginning to put up now and 100,000 1161 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,120 visitors a year and um 1162 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:40,480 it's pretty impressive all the work 1163 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,600 they're doing even having to trim the 1164 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,240 toes of the lions. So, can't do that on 1165 00:41:45,240 --> 00:41:46,713 my dog. 1166 00:41:46,713 --> 00:41:47,990 >> [laughter] 1167 00:41:47,990 --> 00:41:48,000 » [laughter] 1168 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:48,790 >> Anyway, [snorts] 1169 00:41:48,790 --> 00:41:48,800 » Anyway, [snorts] 1170 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,280 so looking forward to finding a date 1171 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,120 that works for all of us. We'll move 1172 00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:56,520 into upcoming events. 1173 00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:57,480 So, 1174 00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:58,680 as counselor Wing said, I think 1175 00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:00,480 September 1176 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,320 No, August 19th, the public budget 1177 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,430 information session. 1178 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:07,440 » And then Wanita, I can send you an 1179 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,240 email, but the 1180 00:42:09,240 --> 00:42:11,000 strategic planning that's on September 1181 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:12,800 the 9th is actually the water 1182 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:13,880 commission, not the wastewater 1183 00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:15,360 commission. 1184 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:16,960 Thanks. 1185 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,160 Want me to send that to you? Okay. 1186 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,790 >> And we have a wastewater meeting on 1187 00:42:21,790 --> 00:42:21,800 » And we have a wastewater meeting on 1188 00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:25,870 August 21st. 1189 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,360 In Annapolis. 1190 00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,190 >> Okay, so um just have somebody make a 1191 00:42:30,190 --> 00:42:30,200 » Okay, so um just have somebody make a 1192 00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:31,520 motion that we accept the upcoming 1193 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,320 events as amended. Counselor Hill. 1194 00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,190 >> I would make that motion as amended. 1195 00:42:36,190 --> 00:42:36,200 » I would make that motion as amended. 1196 00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,470 >> Perfect, thank you. All in favor? 1197 00:42:38,470 --> 00:42:38,480 » Perfect, thank you. All in favor? 1198 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,160 Right, and then a motion to go with in 1199 00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,440 camera, please. Counselor Hill. 1200 00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:43,790 >> I also make the motion that we move in 1201 00:42:43,790 --> 00:42:43,800 » I also make the motion that we move in 1202 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:44,800 camera, Mayor Buckley. 1203 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,030 >> Thank you. All in favor? 1204 00:42:47,030 --> 00:42:47,040 » Thank you. All in favor? 1205 00:42:47,040 --> 00:45:21,550 Carried. Thank you. Just take 1206 00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:23,640 » Mhm.